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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,747 --> 00:00:14,213 Over four years, 2 00:00:14,215 --> 00:00:18,884 a cruel, calculating predator terrorizes the United States. 3 00:00:24,557 --> 00:00:28,894 It's up to three rookie detectives to hunt him down. 4 00:00:28,896 --> 00:00:32,310 I think he actually enjoyed people who were dead. 5 00:00:32,330 --> 00:00:35,200 Whatever it was inside him 6 00:00:35,202 --> 00:00:38,170 was just building up and building up and building up. 7 00:00:38,172 --> 00:00:41,940 Now, decades later, lead investigator Bob keppel 8 00:00:41,942 --> 00:00:44,443 shares his extraordinary experience 9 00:00:44,445 --> 00:00:48,580 of chasing one of America's most notorious serial killers. 10 00:00:57,524 --> 00:00:58,590 Don't know. 11 00:00:58,592 --> 00:01:02,828 Everything Ted Bundy did was a game. 12 00:01:02,830 --> 00:01:04,263 Everything. 13 00:01:09,402 --> 00:01:12,337 Captions by vitac -- www.Vitac.Com 14 00:01:12,339 --> 00:01:15,240 captions paid for by discovery communications 15 00:01:27,187 --> 00:01:31,900 June 1974. The pacific northwest. 16 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,542 In the last five months, 17 00:01:33,544 --> 00:01:36,295 four female college students have vanished. 18 00:01:37,197 --> 00:01:39,310 There really are no clues, 19 00:01:39,330 --> 00:01:42,434 no theories as to the disappearance of the girls. 20 00:01:42,436 --> 00:01:44,403 Fear spreads like wildfire 21 00:01:44,405 --> 00:01:47,500 throughout Washington state. 22 00:01:47,700 --> 00:01:50,175 30-year-old rookie homicide detective Bob keppel 23 00:01:50,177 --> 00:01:52,578 is just two weeks into his new job 24 00:01:52,580 --> 00:01:54,646 at king county sheriff's office. 25 00:01:55,849 --> 00:01:59,510 After working one successful murder investigation, 26 00:01:59,530 --> 00:02:02,354 he's now assigned the case of a fifth missing woman. 27 00:02:02,356 --> 00:02:04,389 The Brenda ball case -- 28 00:02:04,391 --> 00:02:09,361 That was my first real case to be called out upon. 29 00:02:09,363 --> 00:02:12,397 The 22-year-old was last seen 30 00:02:12,399 --> 00:02:14,800 leaving the flame tavern in burien, 31 00:02:14,802 --> 00:02:17,269 10 miles outside Seattle. 32 00:02:18,271 --> 00:02:21,406 I contacted several people who knew her. 33 00:02:21,408 --> 00:02:24,343 There was no trace of her anywhere. 34 00:02:29,349 --> 00:02:31,383 A month into the investigation, 35 00:02:31,385 --> 00:02:34,386 two more students are reported missing -- 36 00:02:34,388 --> 00:02:38,590 23-year-old Janice ott and 19-year-old Denise naslund. 37 00:02:38,592 --> 00:02:41,493 Both were last seen on the same day 38 00:02:41,495 --> 00:02:44,363 at lake sammamish, a popular beach 39 00:02:44,365 --> 00:02:46,532 12 miles east of Seattle. 40 00:02:46,534 --> 00:02:49,801 The cases are assigned to Bob keppel 41 00:02:49,803 --> 00:02:53,500 and another rookie detective Roger Dunn. 42 00:02:53,700 --> 00:02:55,474 Roger was a good partner to have 43 00:02:55,476 --> 00:02:59,770 because he didn't mince words with anybody. 44 00:02:59,790 --> 00:03:01,880 Although they don't know it yet, 45 00:03:01,882 --> 00:03:03,749 the young detectives are on the tail 46 00:03:03,751 --> 00:03:06,885 of one of America's most prolific killers. 47 00:03:06,887 --> 00:03:11,957 In succeeding days, we were contacted by women 48 00:03:11,959 --> 00:03:17,162 who had seen Janice ott walking with a male 49 00:03:17,164 --> 00:03:22,467 wearing a sling on his arm. 50 00:03:22,469 --> 00:03:27,906 So he had a special look to himself 51 00:03:27,908 --> 00:03:30,175 that nobody else had there. 52 00:03:32,145 --> 00:03:36,181 At least three people saw him come up 53 00:03:36,183 --> 00:03:38,817 and talk with Janice ott. 54 00:03:38,819 --> 00:03:43,555 They heard him say, "hi, I'm Ted." 55 00:03:44,891 --> 00:03:47,509 Another witness also reports being approached 56 00:03:47,511 --> 00:03:49,728 by a similar-looking young man, 57 00:03:49,730 --> 00:03:53,565 who she claims tried to lure her to this car -- 58 00:03:53,567 --> 00:03:55,651 A vw bug. 59 00:03:56,936 --> 00:03:59,338 But nobody can offer any information 60 00:03:59,340 --> 00:04:01,730 on the other missing woman. 61 00:04:01,750 --> 00:04:06,678 No one saw anyone approach Denise naslund. 62 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,380 She was gone. 63 00:04:11,317 --> 00:04:13,852 The case makes headline news. 64 00:04:13,854 --> 00:04:15,954 24-year-old Kathleen mcchesney, 65 00:04:15,956 --> 00:04:19,391 one of only four female detectives in king county, 66 00:04:19,393 --> 00:04:21,693 closely follows its progress. 67 00:04:21,695 --> 00:04:23,462 At the time of these cases, 68 00:04:23,464 --> 00:04:26,980 I wasn't that much older than the women 69 00:04:26,100 --> 00:04:28,330 who ultimately became victims, 70 00:04:28,350 --> 00:04:32,621 so I felt almost part of what was going on 71 00:04:32,623 --> 00:04:34,940 in the college communities at the time. 72 00:04:34,942 --> 00:04:37,609 Drawing from eyewitness testimony, 73 00:04:37,611 --> 00:04:40,612 police release a sketch of the alleged perpetrator 74 00:04:40,614 --> 00:04:44,383 from lake sammamish, a man they think is called Ted. 75 00:04:49,230 --> 00:04:54,293 We had well over 500 calls a day coming in. 76 00:04:54,295 --> 00:04:58,830 The problem is we couldn't be guaranteed 77 00:04:58,832 --> 00:05:04,303 that the Volkswagen bug or the name Ted were real. 78 00:05:06,973 --> 00:05:10,208 When we asked the women that were on the beach, 79 00:05:10,210 --> 00:05:13,879 one of them heard the name Ted. 80 00:05:13,881 --> 00:05:16,581 Another one heard the name ned. 81 00:05:16,583 --> 00:05:19,418 And another one heard Fred. 82 00:05:19,420 --> 00:05:21,153 So flip a coin. 83 00:05:21,155 --> 00:05:23,210 Which one is it? 84 00:05:25,124 --> 00:05:29,610 In terms of surveillance cameras, 85 00:05:29,630 --> 00:05:30,996 people didn't have cellphones, 86 00:05:30,998 --> 00:05:33,231 so at lake sammamish, for example, 87 00:05:33,233 --> 00:05:35,670 if that were to occur today... 88 00:05:36,770 --> 00:05:38,904 ...you would have thousands of photographs 89 00:05:38,906 --> 00:05:39,971 on a Sunday afternoon 90 00:05:39,973 --> 00:05:41,973 that you would be able to get ahold of. 91 00:05:41,975 --> 00:05:45,610 We had virtually a half a dozen or a dozen. 92 00:05:50,149 --> 00:05:52,500 Keppel checks the whereabouts 93 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,220 of several well-known rapists and murderers 94 00:05:55,222 --> 00:05:57,456 and turns up a promising lead. 95 00:05:59,859 --> 00:06:05,731 John Paul Knowles was a serial killer 96 00:06:05,733 --> 00:06:11,303 who was in a hotel right near lake sammamish state park 97 00:06:11,305 --> 00:06:14,506 the week before the crimes occurred. 98 00:06:16,209 --> 00:06:19,945 On September 7th, two hunters on a wooded hillside 99 00:06:19,947 --> 00:06:26,218 two miles east of lake sammamish make a chilling discovery -- 100 00:06:26,220 --> 00:06:28,520 Human remains. 101 00:06:28,522 --> 00:06:32,991 I was the one chosen to be kind of in charge of the search. 102 00:06:35,228 --> 00:06:37,963 And we searched for maybe 10 minutes 103 00:06:37,965 --> 00:06:40,866 and started finding bones. 104 00:06:40,868 --> 00:06:42,734 What do you got there, Bob? 105 00:06:42,736 --> 00:06:44,200 Just more bones so far. 106 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,371 Jawbones, as a matter of fact, aren't they? 107 00:06:46,373 --> 00:06:48,774 Well, one kind of looks like a jawbone, yes. 108 00:06:48,776 --> 00:06:49,908 Got teeth in it? 109 00:06:49,910 --> 00:06:52,100 Yes. 110 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,112 The search lasts for a week. 111 00:06:54,114 --> 00:06:58,850 It turns up 26 bones, including a skull and two jawbones 112 00:06:58,852 --> 00:07:04,389 later identified as belonging to Janice ott and Denise naslund. 113 00:07:04,391 --> 00:07:07,626 Bones of a third victim are also recovered, 114 00:07:07,628 --> 00:07:09,995 but cannot be identified. 115 00:07:09,997 --> 00:07:14,299 The bone fragments reveal the true horror of the crimes. 116 00:07:18,572 --> 00:07:20,739 Have you ever seen anything like that? 117 00:07:20,741 --> 00:07:23,375 No. 118 00:07:23,377 --> 00:07:25,210 Guy's a psycho. 119 00:07:25,212 --> 00:07:28,547 He's a pathetic screwball psycho. 120 00:07:28,549 --> 00:07:30,109 What the hell's he doing to those women? 121 00:07:31,551 --> 00:07:33,952 Would you stop talking about it, please? 122 00:07:36,622 --> 00:07:38,657 That jawbone... 123 00:07:38,659 --> 00:07:40,792 It was totally smashed. 124 00:07:40,794 --> 00:07:42,600 He'd beaten her to a pulp. 125 00:07:42,620 --> 00:07:44,362 What kind of sick mind makes you do something like that? 126 00:07:44,364 --> 00:07:46,465 And why -- why is he doing something like that? 127 00:07:46,467 --> 00:07:47,899 Just take it easy, Roger. 128 00:07:47,901 --> 00:07:48,867 It's nuts. 129 00:07:57,176 --> 00:08:00,846 I think Roger felt more personal responsibility 130 00:08:00,848 --> 00:08:03,715 for not stopping the crimes. 131 00:08:03,717 --> 00:08:07,219 And Bob approached it more from an investigator's standpoint. 132 00:08:07,221 --> 00:08:13,158 So, he likes order, he likes conclusions to things, 133 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,227 and he doesn't talk about feelings. 134 00:08:15,229 --> 00:08:17,629 The missing persons cases 135 00:08:17,631 --> 00:08:21,433 of Denise naslund and Janice ott have now been designated 136 00:08:21,435 --> 00:08:24,690 a large-scale homicide investigation. 137 00:08:26,806 --> 00:08:30,242 It enabled us to think that we needed to look 138 00:08:30,244 --> 00:08:34,579 more into other missing persons. 139 00:08:34,581 --> 00:08:39,217 But every other missing person that could have been out there 140 00:08:39,219 --> 00:08:43,121 at the time, we found alive. 141 00:08:43,123 --> 00:08:48,193 But there were these few that were never found. 142 00:08:48,195 --> 00:08:50,195 Over the next six months, 143 00:08:50,197 --> 00:08:52,497 keppel expands his investigation 144 00:08:52,499 --> 00:08:55,700 to include a further five missing women -- 145 00:08:55,702 --> 00:08:57,736 Lynda Healy, Donna manson, 146 00:08:57,738 --> 00:09:00,505 Susan rancourt, georgann Hawkins, 147 00:09:00,507 --> 00:09:03,742 and his original case, Brenda ball. 148 00:09:03,744 --> 00:09:07,946 Could they have fallen victim to the same ruthless killer? 149 00:09:07,948 --> 00:09:10,549 It wasn't a popular theory 150 00:09:10,551 --> 00:09:13,184 that they were all abducted by the same person. 151 00:09:13,186 --> 00:09:18,757 It had never happened before, so why would it happen then? 152 00:09:24,163 --> 00:09:27,232 Since getting assigned the case seven months ago, 153 00:09:27,234 --> 00:09:30,680 keppel and Dunn still have no hard evidence 154 00:09:30,700 --> 00:09:31,570 pointing to a suspect. 155 00:09:31,572 --> 00:09:35,574 And one of their best early leads has already gone cold. 156 00:09:35,576 --> 00:09:39,144 The known killer in the area, John Paul Knowles, 157 00:09:39,146 --> 00:09:42,147 had left town before ott and naslund's disappearance, 158 00:09:42,149 --> 00:09:44,616 and there's another reason to exclude him. 159 00:09:44,618 --> 00:09:49,387 The suspect was thought to be anywhere from 5'10" to 6'. 160 00:09:49,389 --> 00:09:53,992 John Paul Knowles was closer to 6'6". 161 00:09:56,596 --> 00:09:59,698 Despite Knowles being ruled out as a suspect, 162 00:09:59,700 --> 00:10:02,434 keppel believes the cases are linked. 163 00:10:02,436 --> 00:10:04,936 But to prove it, he needs evidence. 164 00:10:04,938 --> 00:10:09,641 The problem is forensic science in the 1970s is in its infancy, 165 00:10:09,643 --> 00:10:12,944 and DNA analysis hasn't been invented. 166 00:10:12,946 --> 00:10:16,982 Dental records were the only way they could be identified. 167 00:10:16,984 --> 00:10:21,987 For instance, Susan rancourt -- She had a bridge. 168 00:10:21,989 --> 00:10:25,624 Brenda ball -- she had fillings. 169 00:10:25,626 --> 00:10:29,828 So I had basically memorized the dental charts 170 00:10:29,830 --> 00:10:32,297 of all known missing women, 171 00:10:32,299 --> 00:10:37,535 so I knew quite a bit about what I was to find. 172 00:10:41,407 --> 00:10:44,442 March 2, 1975, on Taylor mountain, 173 00:10:44,444 --> 00:10:48,380 just 10 miles from where the first bones were found, 174 00:10:48,382 --> 00:10:52,817 two forestry students stumble across a human skull. 175 00:10:52,819 --> 00:10:56,821 Detective keppel is one of the first on the scene. 176 00:10:56,823 --> 00:10:59,391 As soon as he sees the skull's teeth, 177 00:10:59,393 --> 00:11:01,626 he knows the victim's name. 178 00:11:01,628 --> 00:11:03,828 Brenda ball. 179 00:11:05,364 --> 00:11:09,968 That same day, I found another skull, 180 00:11:09,970 --> 00:11:14,606 which turned out to be Susan rancourt. 181 00:11:14,608 --> 00:11:17,475 And then later on, we found a skull 182 00:11:17,477 --> 00:11:22,681 belonging to Kathy parks from Oregon state university. 183 00:11:22,683 --> 00:11:25,750 Remains of another victim later prove to be 184 00:11:25,752 --> 00:11:29,754 that of 21-year-old college student Lynda Healy. 185 00:11:29,756 --> 00:11:33,458 All four skulls had fracture marks. 186 00:11:33,460 --> 00:11:35,460 The head injuries sustained 187 00:11:35,462 --> 00:11:37,620 by the victims at both sites 188 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,631 confirm Bob keppel's worst fears. 189 00:11:39,633 --> 00:11:42,434 It was a pretty good indicator 190 00:11:42,436 --> 00:11:46,370 that they all suffered damage from the same person. 191 00:11:46,390 --> 00:11:47,706 And that's not all. 192 00:11:47,708 --> 00:11:50,275 The killer's not just dumping bodies. 193 00:11:50,277 --> 00:11:53,812 He's decapitating them. 194 00:11:59,985 --> 00:12:02,120 In the pacific northwest, 195 00:12:02,122 --> 00:12:04,489 female college students are disappearing 196 00:12:04,491 --> 00:12:06,725 at a terrifying rate. 197 00:12:06,727 --> 00:12:08,193 What do you got there, Bob? 198 00:12:08,195 --> 00:12:10,795 When decapitated bodies start turning up, 199 00:12:10,797 --> 00:12:14,650 police realize they're chasing a crazed serial killer, 200 00:12:14,670 --> 00:12:18,636 the likes of which has never been known before. 201 00:12:18,638 --> 00:12:21,906 It's unreal and it's a nightmare 202 00:12:21,908 --> 00:12:25,343 and nothing in anybody's manual would prepare you 203 00:12:25,345 --> 00:12:27,278 for something like this. 204 00:12:36,355 --> 00:12:39,124 Now, with remains found at two sites 205 00:12:39,126 --> 00:12:40,425 and tips flooding in, 206 00:12:40,427 --> 00:12:43,228 the king county sheriff's department recognizes 207 00:12:43,230 --> 00:12:46,297 they need more man power to work the case. 208 00:12:46,299 --> 00:12:47,699 Radio check. 209 00:12:50,169 --> 00:12:51,636 A task force is established 210 00:12:51,638 --> 00:12:55,907 with Bob keppel and Roger Dunn lead detectives. 211 00:12:55,909 --> 00:12:57,776 There was nothing like this case 212 00:12:57,778 --> 00:12:59,611 that I could find in the history, 213 00:12:59,613 --> 00:13:02,180 anywhere in Washington state. 214 00:13:02,182 --> 00:13:05,984 Since young women first began disappearing 215 00:13:05,986 --> 00:13:07,952 13 months ago, 216 00:13:07,954 --> 00:13:11,823 investigators have positively identified six bodies. 217 00:13:11,825 --> 00:13:14,926 Only 18-year-old georgann Hawkins 218 00:13:14,928 --> 00:13:19,164 and 19-year-old Donna manson remain unaccounted for. 219 00:13:19,166 --> 00:13:21,966 In Seattle, fear grows that they, too, 220 00:13:21,968 --> 00:13:24,702 may have fallen victim to the brutal predator 221 00:13:24,704 --> 00:13:27,172 known to police as "Ted." 222 00:13:27,174 --> 00:13:31,376 It was very hard to solve because we had nothing. 223 00:13:31,378 --> 00:13:36,214 We had no good suspect that stood out. 224 00:13:36,216 --> 00:13:38,716 Officers spend thousands of hours 225 00:13:38,718 --> 00:13:42,587 trying to get their heads around the challenging case. 226 00:13:42,589 --> 00:13:44,823 But just one month later, 227 00:13:44,825 --> 00:13:48,920 the task force is disbanded with no real progress 228 00:13:48,940 --> 00:13:50,328 having been made. 229 00:13:50,330 --> 00:13:53,698 Keppel and Dunn are left with more than 3,000 230 00:13:53,700 --> 00:13:56,668 possible suspects and no solid leads. 231 00:13:56,670 --> 00:13:59,971 When their captain offers just one more detective 232 00:13:59,973 --> 00:14:03,608 to assist them, they make a bold move. 233 00:14:03,610 --> 00:14:05,977 They choose one of keppel's former trainees, 234 00:14:05,979 --> 00:14:08,379 24-year-old Kathleen mcchesney, 235 00:14:08,381 --> 00:14:12,160 a detective in the checks and fraud division. 236 00:14:12,180 --> 00:14:15,530 She was eager to get out of checks and fraud 237 00:14:15,550 --> 00:14:18,489 because that's a loser place if you're a detective. 238 00:14:18,491 --> 00:14:21,125 There were certainly some men 239 00:14:21,127 --> 00:14:24,796 who didn't think that women should be in law enforcement, 240 00:14:24,798 --> 00:14:29,367 but Bob keppel is an individual who is focused on work, 241 00:14:29,369 --> 00:14:32,360 and he doesn't care what his partner looks like. 242 00:14:32,380 --> 00:14:37,809 He only cares how they act and the intellect that they provide. 243 00:14:37,811 --> 00:14:41,679 Detective mcchesney offers the investigation 244 00:14:41,681 --> 00:14:43,982 something incredibly valuable -- 245 00:14:43,984 --> 00:14:49,153 A female perspective on how the killer targets his victims. 246 00:14:49,155 --> 00:14:54,225 This was someone who was very bright, very smart, 247 00:14:54,227 --> 00:14:56,861 who had a little bit of the gift of gab 248 00:14:56,863 --> 00:15:02,660 and able to convince someone to go with him. 249 00:15:04,690 --> 00:15:07,105 Why do they keep falling for it? 250 00:15:07,107 --> 00:15:11,242 I mean, why do they go off with an unknown guy -- this loser? 251 00:15:11,244 --> 00:15:14,846 I think he... Loves women. 252 00:15:14,848 --> 00:15:18,820 I think he knows what they want. 253 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,718 Women like that. 254 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,553 I'd like that. 255 00:15:22,555 --> 00:15:25,223 I want to meet a nice guy. 256 00:15:25,225 --> 00:15:27,892 At first, that's him. 257 00:15:29,395 --> 00:15:33,498 The first killing is dangerous -- 258 00:15:33,500 --> 00:15:37,568 Scary, probably... 259 00:15:37,570 --> 00:15:39,504 Exciting. 260 00:15:39,506 --> 00:15:42,307 So he tries it again. 261 00:15:42,309 --> 00:15:45,777 Is he gonna keep on killing? 262 00:15:45,779 --> 00:15:50,810 Oh, he's hooked. 263 00:15:50,830 --> 00:15:51,490 He can't stop. 264 00:15:55,554 --> 00:16:00,240 Seattle in the 1970s was a pretty loose, 265 00:16:00,260 --> 00:16:02,794 liberal sort of community. 266 00:16:02,796 --> 00:16:06,631 People were more trusting and certainly less suspicious 267 00:16:06,633 --> 00:16:09,400 of strangers than they are today. 268 00:16:09,402 --> 00:16:13,805 But after the murders, 269 00:16:13,807 --> 00:16:15,440 women were becoming afraid to go out, 270 00:16:15,442 --> 00:16:16,874 afraid to talk to people, 271 00:16:16,876 --> 00:16:22,380 afraid to do the kinds of things that they had done very safely 272 00:16:22,382 --> 00:16:24,349 and without a thought prior to that. 273 00:16:24,351 --> 00:16:25,750 She didn't show up to the final. 274 00:16:25,752 --> 00:16:27,385 I talked to the professor the next day. 275 00:16:27,387 --> 00:16:29,587 He said he was really surprised that she didn't show up. 276 00:16:30,656 --> 00:16:32,991 Rumors circulate that the killer preys 277 00:16:32,993 --> 00:16:34,809 on a particular type. 278 00:16:34,811 --> 00:16:37,662 Victims were all women, of course, 279 00:16:37,664 --> 00:16:39,731 of a certain age, 280 00:16:39,733 --> 00:16:41,899 generally their late teens, early 20s. 281 00:16:41,901 --> 00:16:43,868 But age and appearance 282 00:16:43,870 --> 00:16:47,839 are only part of the killer's m.O. 283 00:16:47,841 --> 00:16:50,908 The fact that he went to college campuses 284 00:16:50,910 --> 00:16:53,544 and found victims was 285 00:16:53,546 --> 00:16:57,782 because he was so comfortable in the college setting. 286 00:16:57,784 --> 00:16:59,717 He knew how to talk to co-eds. 287 00:16:59,719 --> 00:17:03,540 He knew how to approach them. 288 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,900 So that was his area. 289 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,927 That was where he did his work. 290 00:17:09,929 --> 00:17:13,698 With no viable suspect, 291 00:17:13,700 --> 00:17:17,368 the stress mounts on the lead detectives. 292 00:17:17,370 --> 00:17:21,272 The media were surrounding us, seeking information, 293 00:17:21,274 --> 00:17:24,842 but it wasn't just because it was sensational. 294 00:17:24,844 --> 00:17:28,746 It was because the community really needed to know 295 00:17:28,748 --> 00:17:29,981 what was going on. 296 00:17:29,983 --> 00:17:32,950 This is a little different than most homicide cases 297 00:17:32,952 --> 00:17:35,860 that we handled. 298 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:40,792 I don't know that people realize the burden that detectives have 299 00:17:40,794 --> 00:17:43,895 or the responsibility or guilt. 300 00:17:43,897 --> 00:17:48,566 I think that Bob was thinking about that all the time. 301 00:17:51,271 --> 00:17:54,380 Working such an impossible, high-stakes case 302 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,441 in the glare of the media spotlight, 303 00:17:56,443 --> 00:18:00,945 keppel, Dunn, and mcchesney are living in a pressure cooker. 304 00:18:00,947 --> 00:18:03,414 But they refuse to lose hope. 305 00:18:03,416 --> 00:18:05,817 I think people perhaps thought it was Un-solvable. 306 00:18:05,819 --> 00:18:07,752 We never believed that. 307 00:18:07,754 --> 00:18:10,288 I think one of these days we'll find him. 308 00:18:10,290 --> 00:18:12,490 I can't tell you when, but we will. 309 00:18:12,492 --> 00:18:15,293 But with so many potential suspects, 310 00:18:15,295 --> 00:18:17,950 they're drowning in paperwork. 311 00:18:17,970 --> 00:18:19,897 It was overwhelming, and in a case like that, 312 00:18:19,899 --> 00:18:22,266 it's possible that you're gonna overlook something. 313 00:18:25,170 --> 00:18:26,737 And that's your biggest nightmare. 314 00:18:26,739 --> 00:18:31,409 Swamped by names, dates, car models, and alibis, 315 00:18:31,411 --> 00:18:34,846 keppel realizes they have too much data to process. 316 00:18:34,848 --> 00:18:37,148 Desperate to make sense of it, 317 00:18:37,150 --> 00:18:39,984 he comes up with a startling idea. 318 00:18:39,986 --> 00:18:44,210 I ran into the computer person, 319 00:18:44,230 --> 00:18:46,390 and I started talking to him 320 00:18:46,392 --> 00:18:50,128 about what could he do to help us. 321 00:18:50,130 --> 00:18:52,363 I thought there was a chance 322 00:18:52,365 --> 00:18:55,600 the computer could take all the names we had 323 00:18:55,602 --> 00:18:59,971 and categorize them and link them together. 324 00:18:59,973 --> 00:19:04,442 In 1975, with computers in their infancy, 325 00:19:04,444 --> 00:19:07,780 it's a revolutionary concept. 326 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,714 We believe it was the first time computers 327 00:19:09,716 --> 00:19:11,749 have been used in a criminal investigation. 328 00:19:11,751 --> 00:19:14,218 Being able to use computers 329 00:19:14,220 --> 00:19:20,391 was absolutely an essential part of putting that case together. 330 00:19:20,393 --> 00:19:23,461 Now able to cross-reference owners 331 00:19:23,463 --> 00:19:27,465 of vw bugs with up to 30 other sub-categories, 332 00:19:27,467 --> 00:19:29,600 keppel and his team reduce their list 333 00:19:29,602 --> 00:19:34,739 of potential suspects from nearly 3,000 to just 100. 334 00:19:34,741 --> 00:19:37,642 Now they must Wade alphabetically through 335 00:19:37,644 --> 00:19:39,777 the new computer-generated list, 336 00:19:39,779 --> 00:19:42,947 eliminating suspects as fast as they can 337 00:19:42,949 --> 00:19:45,183 before the killer strikes again. 338 00:19:45,185 --> 00:19:49,420 We definitely wanted an alibi -- 339 00:19:49,422 --> 00:19:52,890 Something when it would prove whoever we were looking at 340 00:19:52,892 --> 00:19:57,895 was not at lake sammamish on Sunday, July 14th. 341 00:20:01,333 --> 00:20:05,369 It's a painstakingly slow process. 342 00:20:05,371 --> 00:20:09,607 In two months, they eliminate only six names. 343 00:20:09,609 --> 00:20:14,645 Incredibly, during that time, no more women go missing. 344 00:20:14,647 --> 00:20:17,615 So, where is Ted? 345 00:20:17,617 --> 00:20:22,220 Either the killer was dead or had moved on. 346 00:20:22,222 --> 00:20:25,256 If the killer has fled Washington state, 347 00:20:25,258 --> 00:20:27,692 his trail could easily go cold. 348 00:20:27,694 --> 00:20:31,295 Then suddenly, the detectives catch a break. 349 00:20:31,297 --> 00:20:35,660 You always hope that your offender makes a mistake. 350 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,603 Oh, I was convinced he was the right one. 351 00:20:47,312 --> 00:20:49,714 After a year hunting a serial killer 352 00:20:49,716 --> 00:20:51,916 known only as "Ted," 353 00:20:51,918 --> 00:20:55,860 king county detectives keppel, Dunn, and mcchesney 354 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,688 have two unexplained disappearances 355 00:20:57,690 --> 00:21:00,458 and 94 possible suspects. 356 00:21:16,141 --> 00:21:18,826 October 15, 1975. 357 00:21:18,828 --> 00:21:21,212 A 28-year-old man is arrested 358 00:21:21,214 --> 00:21:24,248 for the attempted kidnapping of Carol daronch, 359 00:21:24,250 --> 00:21:27,818 an 18-year-old telephone operator. 360 00:21:27,820 --> 00:21:30,688 Impersonating a police officer, 361 00:21:30,690 --> 00:21:33,524 the man lured her to his car and attacked her 362 00:21:33,526 --> 00:21:35,993 before she managed to escape. 363 00:21:35,995 --> 00:21:39,196 His vehicle was a Volkswagen bug, 364 00:21:39,198 --> 00:21:42,333 which was our suspect vehicle. 365 00:21:42,335 --> 00:21:44,402 And there were some things about the description 366 00:21:44,404 --> 00:21:49,240 that also reinforced it probably was this Ted person. 367 00:21:49,242 --> 00:21:54,979 Has the ruthless killer made his first mistake? 368 00:21:56,581 --> 00:21:58,749 Detectives immediately check the man's name 369 00:21:58,751 --> 00:22:02,860 against their list of possible suspects. 370 00:22:10,762 --> 00:22:16,000 Theodore Robert Bundy was Ted ♪7. 371 00:22:18,887 --> 00:22:23,457 In his vehicle, there was a mask with eye holes cut out, 372 00:22:23,459 --> 00:22:26,944 a crowbar, and a pair of handcuffs. 373 00:22:26,946 --> 00:22:31,949 There were things that you would expect a serial killer to have. 374 00:22:31,951 --> 00:22:37,154 Ted Bundy immediately becomes the prime suspect 375 00:22:37,156 --> 00:22:39,290 in the Washington state slayings. 376 00:22:39,292 --> 00:22:44,962 Still, investigators must check Bundy's alibis 377 00:22:44,964 --> 00:22:48,699 against each of the six known murders. 378 00:22:48,701 --> 00:22:53,504 They go straight to the person who knows him best -- 379 00:22:53,506 --> 00:22:57,475 His long-term girlfriend, Liz. 380 00:22:57,477 --> 00:22:59,810 You know he's been charged -- 381 00:22:59,812 --> 00:23:02,413 Aggravated kidnapping. 382 00:23:02,415 --> 00:23:05,116 No. That's not possible. 383 00:23:05,118 --> 00:23:07,510 He wouldn't. You can ask anyone. 384 00:23:10,155 --> 00:23:13,257 Liz... 385 00:23:13,259 --> 00:23:16,260 Those are all the items found in his car. 386 00:23:16,262 --> 00:23:18,462 Can you explain any of that? 387 00:23:18,464 --> 00:23:20,598 No. 388 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,800 He didn't do anything. 389 00:23:22,802 --> 00:23:24,101 I love him. 390 00:23:24,103 --> 00:23:25,536 We're gonna get married. 391 00:23:25,538 --> 00:23:27,400 I shouldn't even be here. 392 00:23:29,408 --> 00:23:30,941 Is he violent with you? 393 00:23:30,943 --> 00:23:32,843 No. 394 00:23:34,446 --> 00:23:36,130 Once or twice. 395 00:23:37,282 --> 00:23:40,151 Despite protesting his innocence, 396 00:23:40,153 --> 00:23:41,685 Liz wasn't with her boyfriend 397 00:23:41,687 --> 00:23:45,489 on the day that two young women went missing at lake sammamish. 398 00:23:45,491 --> 00:23:50,394 And now it emerges that she had been wary of Bundy 399 00:23:50,396 --> 00:23:54,732 since the first composite sketch was released in July 1974, 400 00:23:54,734 --> 00:23:58,350 more than a year ago. 401 00:23:58,370 --> 00:24:03,774 She was concerned when Ted started to demonstrate behaviors 402 00:24:03,776 --> 00:24:06,977 that were unusual 403 00:24:06,979 --> 00:24:10,448 and, in fact, to her words, somewhat scary. 404 00:24:12,451 --> 00:24:16,253 She was among hundreds of other women 405 00:24:16,255 --> 00:24:20,724 who had turned in their boyfriends as possible suspects. 406 00:24:20,726 --> 00:24:23,270 After Liz called police 407 00:24:23,290 --> 00:24:24,829 with a tip about her boyfriend, 408 00:24:24,831 --> 00:24:27,798 they ran a background check on Bundy, 409 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,802 but found nothing suspicious. 410 00:24:31,804 --> 00:24:35,390 Now they must dig deeper. 411 00:24:35,410 --> 00:24:37,675 We began to investigate him. 412 00:24:37,677 --> 00:24:40,945 We contacted everybody we could find 413 00:24:40,947 --> 00:24:42,446 that had anything to do with him -- 414 00:24:42,448 --> 00:24:45,349 His professors at the university of Washington, 415 00:24:45,351 --> 00:24:47,718 locations where he'd worked, 416 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,889 locations where he'd lived, his relatives. 417 00:24:51,891 --> 00:24:54,692 Outwardly, Ted Bundy appears handsome, 418 00:24:54,694 --> 00:24:56,527 charming, and polite. 419 00:24:58,930 --> 00:25:03,330 Could this clean-cut 28-year-old former law student 420 00:25:03,350 --> 00:25:06,360 really be capable of such atrocities? 421 00:25:06,380 --> 00:25:09,600 Our son is the best son in the world. 422 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:10,374 We still don't believe it. 423 00:25:10,376 --> 00:25:11,842 It just can't be. 424 00:25:11,844 --> 00:25:16,680 I keep shaking my head day after day, saying, "how can this be?" 425 00:25:16,682 --> 00:25:20,150 Everyone thought we were wrong. 426 00:25:20,152 --> 00:25:25,556 I mean, when you have governors speaking on your behalf, 427 00:25:25,558 --> 00:25:29,226 that helps you look like a good person. 428 00:25:30,695 --> 00:25:33,630 But the fact that Ted was from Seattle 429 00:25:33,650 --> 00:25:36,967 and had been in the Seattle area at the time of our cases 430 00:25:36,969 --> 00:25:41,739 led me to believe that we had a really good suspect here. 431 00:25:41,741 --> 00:25:46,430 We couldn't find anything that would eliminate him. 432 00:25:46,450 --> 00:25:48,946 I think Ted Bundy was very successful 433 00:25:48,948 --> 00:25:51,749 at separating the different parts of his life, 434 00:25:51,751 --> 00:25:55,152 whether it was from women he was seeing, his professors -- 435 00:25:55,154 --> 00:25:59,256 They were never able to see the dark side of him 436 00:25:59,258 --> 00:26:02,927 because Ted was a master manipulator. 437 00:26:02,929 --> 00:26:04,828 I'll plead not guilty right now. 438 00:26:07,632 --> 00:26:12,369 In November 1975, one month after Bundy's arrest, 439 00:26:12,371 --> 00:26:14,805 Bob keppel travels to Aspen, Colorado, 440 00:26:14,807 --> 00:26:17,274 to meet with detectives and prosecutors 441 00:26:17,276 --> 00:26:21,912 investigating the murder of 23-year-old caryn Campbell. 442 00:26:21,914 --> 00:26:25,783 Their prime suspect -- Ted Bundy. 443 00:26:25,785 --> 00:26:29,286 We knew that if he got a conviction in Colorado, 444 00:26:29,288 --> 00:26:31,355 it would strengthen our case, 445 00:26:31,357 --> 00:26:36,493 and we'd be able to use their conviction in our courts. 446 00:26:36,495 --> 00:26:38,529 Also in attendance 447 00:26:38,531 --> 00:26:41,532 are detectives from Utah and California. 448 00:26:41,534 --> 00:26:44,134 It's only when they compare case notes 449 00:26:44,136 --> 00:26:48,720 that they realize the true extent of Bundy's crimes. 450 00:26:56,448 --> 00:27:00,417 On march 1, 1976, Ted Bundy is found guilty 451 00:27:00,419 --> 00:27:03,587 of the kidnapping and assault of Carol daronch. 452 00:27:03,589 --> 00:27:06,690 He is sentenced to between 1 and 15 years 453 00:27:06,692 --> 00:27:09,260 in Utah state prison. 454 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,662 He is also charged with the Colorado murder 455 00:27:11,664 --> 00:27:14,598 of caryn Campbell after locks of her hair 456 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,634 were discovered in his car. 457 00:27:17,569 --> 00:27:22,239 But while Bundy awaits trial, the unthinkable happens. 458 00:27:22,241 --> 00:27:27,211 I received a telephone call that said, 459 00:27:27,213 --> 00:27:29,913 "he's gone. 460 00:27:29,915 --> 00:27:31,348 He's escaped." 461 00:27:38,990 --> 00:27:41,592 On new year's Eve 1977, 462 00:27:41,594 --> 00:27:44,728 while serving a sentence for attempted kidnapping 463 00:27:44,730 --> 00:27:47,698 and awaiting trial for the murder of caryn Campbell, 464 00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:51,935 Ted Bundy escapes from his jail cell in Colorado. 465 00:27:57,709 --> 00:28:01,745 I called several people that I knew that knew Ted Bundy 466 00:28:01,747 --> 00:28:05,816 and told them that they should call us right away 467 00:28:05,818 --> 00:28:07,718 if they hear from him, 468 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,254 otherwise, I'd arrest 'em. 469 00:28:10,256 --> 00:28:11,989 I told his mother that. 470 00:28:14,392 --> 00:28:17,861 A nationwide manhunt is launched, 471 00:28:17,863 --> 00:28:20,431 and Bundy shoots straight to the top 472 00:28:20,433 --> 00:28:23,300 of the FBI's most wanted list. 473 00:28:23,302 --> 00:28:25,169 Ted Bundy became a household name. 474 00:28:29,708 --> 00:28:31,775 The media made him a folk hero. 475 00:28:33,878 --> 00:28:35,713 There was something odd about it. 476 00:28:35,715 --> 00:28:37,915 No one knows where Bundy is, 477 00:28:37,917 --> 00:28:41,685 but detective Bob keppel is sure about one thing. 478 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,957 I absolutely thought that he would kill again. 479 00:28:59,170 --> 00:29:02,439 It's been four days since the fsu murders occurred, 480 00:29:02,441 --> 00:29:03,874 and the mood both on campus 481 00:29:03,876 --> 00:29:06,430 and here in this usually peaceful city 482 00:29:06,450 --> 00:29:07,778 is still one of apprehension. 483 00:29:10,215 --> 00:29:12,316 The earmarks were there 484 00:29:12,318 --> 00:29:16,153 that Ted Bundy was very likely the offender. 485 00:29:16,155 --> 00:29:18,489 The deadly attacks on young women 486 00:29:18,491 --> 00:29:20,390 in the university sorority house 487 00:29:20,392 --> 00:29:23,961 displays a new level of bloodthirsty recklessness. 488 00:29:23,963 --> 00:29:27,631 Four weeks later, he strikes again. 489 00:29:27,633 --> 00:29:30,501 Only this time, his victim is much younger 490 00:29:30,503 --> 00:29:34,471 than his usual targets -- 491 00:29:34,473 --> 00:29:38,275 12-year-old schoolgirl Kimberly leach. 492 00:29:38,277 --> 00:29:42,179 That frightened a large number of people. 493 00:29:42,181 --> 00:29:45,149 Ted Bundy -- He was in such a frenzy 494 00:29:45,151 --> 00:29:48,252 because he had not killed for so long, 495 00:29:48,254 --> 00:29:50,420 so whatever it was inside him 496 00:29:50,422 --> 00:29:53,490 was just building up and building up and building up. 497 00:29:57,262 --> 00:30:00,300 One week later, in pensacola, Florida, 498 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,767 police pull over a car with stolen plates. 499 00:30:03,769 --> 00:30:07,504 The driver -- Ted Bundy. 500 00:30:09,174 --> 00:30:11,441 It's an incredibly lucky break. 501 00:30:14,612 --> 00:30:18,549 Bundy is arrested and put on trial for the Florida murders. 502 00:30:18,551 --> 00:30:21,180 Theodore Robert Bundy. 503 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,253 Armed with eyewitness reports 504 00:30:23,255 --> 00:30:24,922 and physical evidence tying him 505 00:30:24,924 --> 00:30:27,157 to the sorority-house crime scene, 506 00:30:27,159 --> 00:30:29,359 the prosecution's case is strong. 507 00:30:29,361 --> 00:30:31,562 She had been beaten severely. 508 00:30:31,564 --> 00:30:35,566 At trial, Bundy denies the allegations, 509 00:30:35,568 --> 00:30:37,534 and ever the public showman, 510 00:30:37,536 --> 00:30:41,238 the former law student even acts as his own attorney. 511 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:46,543 You watch Bundy's behavior throughout that trial, 512 00:30:46,545 --> 00:30:48,545 and he was really enjoying himself. 513 00:30:48,547 --> 00:30:51,982 Don't shake your finger at me, young man. 514 00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:57,454 The sentence of this court -- That you, Theodore Robert Bundy, 515 00:30:57,456 --> 00:30:59,690 be adjudicated guilty of murder in the first degree. 516 00:30:59,692 --> 00:31:03,600 In July 1979, Bundy is convicted 517 00:31:03,620 --> 00:31:06,630 on three counts of first-degree murder, 518 00:31:06,650 --> 00:31:07,931 three counts of attempted murder, 519 00:31:07,933 --> 00:31:09,833 and two counts of burglary. 520 00:31:11,903 --> 00:31:14,605 A majority of the jury advises and recommends to the court 521 00:31:14,607 --> 00:31:17,740 that it impose the death penalty upon the defendant, 522 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:18,108 Theodore Robert Bundy. 523 00:31:22,448 --> 00:31:24,248 Do you understand? 524 00:31:26,284 --> 00:31:28,318 Though Bundy receives the death sentence 525 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,320 for the Florida slayings, 526 00:31:30,322 --> 00:31:32,789 there are dozens more unsolved murders, 527 00:31:32,791 --> 00:31:35,580 including eight in Washington state 528 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,761 that detectives keppel, Dunn, and mcchesney 529 00:31:37,763 --> 00:31:40,797 believe Bundy committed. 530 00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:44,100 We felt disappointed that we weren't able 531 00:31:44,300 --> 00:31:46,904 to get justice for those victims' families 532 00:31:46,906 --> 00:31:48,705 in Washington state. 533 00:31:48,707 --> 00:31:52,943 I know he murdered Denise, 534 00:31:52,945 --> 00:31:57,140 and I-i hate him. 535 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,840 Oh, I was convinced he was the right one. 536 00:32:01,860 --> 00:32:04,888 All I knew was I just needed evidence. 537 00:32:08,927 --> 00:32:12,930 10 years later, as his execution draws near, 538 00:32:12,932 --> 00:32:16,900 Ted Bundy asked to meet with Bob keppel face-to-face. 539 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,321 Hello, Bob. 540 00:32:37,323 --> 00:32:40,824 Diabolical genius, deceptive, manipulative -- 541 00:32:40,826 --> 00:32:43,593 Words authorities used to describe Theodore Bundy. 542 00:32:43,595 --> 00:32:46,863 The authorities also say Bundy's trying to head off execution 543 00:32:46,865 --> 00:32:49,833 by confessing to some of the murders he's suspected of 544 00:32:49,835 --> 00:32:52,169 and by hinting that he'll provide details 545 00:32:52,171 --> 00:32:53,270 about the other killings. 546 00:32:56,341 --> 00:33:01,979 I expected maybe he would stall things out, but no. 547 00:33:01,981 --> 00:33:03,714 He wanted to talk about murder. 548 00:33:03,716 --> 00:33:09,353 What did you want to tell me? 549 00:33:09,355 --> 00:33:12,956 Now, 26 years later, Bob keppel listens 550 00:33:12,958 --> 00:33:16,793 to 1989 audio recordings of his confrontation 551 00:33:16,795 --> 00:33:19,596 with the monster that is Ted Bundy. 552 00:33:30,241 --> 00:33:31,775 The "why" didn't matter 553 00:33:31,777 --> 00:33:35,450 because the "why" never catches anybody. 554 00:33:43,888 --> 00:33:48,692 Keppel questions Bundy about the unidentified victim 555 00:33:48,694 --> 00:33:51,628 found at the issaquah crime scene. 556 00:33:51,630 --> 00:33:53,530 The name Bundy gives 557 00:33:53,532 --> 00:33:57,734 is one keppel has suspected for over a decade. 558 00:34:02,140 --> 00:34:04,875 But her name is not enough. 559 00:34:04,877 --> 00:34:07,144 Keppel needs more proof. 560 00:35:01,632 --> 00:35:04,670 But the way he disposed of the body 561 00:35:04,690 --> 00:35:06,403 is even more horrifying. 562 00:35:20,485 --> 00:35:23,787 I just had to take it with a straight face. 563 00:35:23,789 --> 00:35:25,956 I'm thinking about the next question. 564 00:35:33,164 --> 00:35:37,534 He did what you call murder-rape. 565 00:35:37,536 --> 00:35:41,738 Most people do rape-murder. 566 00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:44,274 But he's different. 567 00:35:44,276 --> 00:35:49,646 I think he actually enjoyed people who were dead. 568 00:35:49,648 --> 00:35:52,549 As the only victim of his original eight 569 00:35:52,551 --> 00:35:54,451 unaccounted for, 570 00:35:54,453 --> 00:35:58,722 keppel fears Donna manson suffered the same cruel fate. 571 00:36:04,595 --> 00:36:07,330 You're not gonna find her head. 572 00:36:07,332 --> 00:36:10,300 Why not? Where is it? 573 00:36:18,676 --> 00:36:21,770 As his execution draws near, 574 00:36:21,790 --> 00:36:23,480 notorious serial killer Ted Bundy 575 00:36:23,482 --> 00:36:26,583 agrees to confess his crimes to Bob keppel, 576 00:36:26,585 --> 00:36:30,487 the detective who spent four years hunting him. 577 00:36:39,565 --> 00:36:42,666 What happened to Donna manson? 578 00:36:42,668 --> 00:36:45,101 What did you do with her? 579 00:36:46,804 --> 00:36:49,639 You're not gonna find her head. 580 00:36:50,675 --> 00:36:52,442 Why not? Where is it? 581 00:36:53,744 --> 00:36:55,645 In Liz's fireplace. 582 00:37:05,690 --> 00:37:07,457 Mm-hmm. 583 00:37:24,542 --> 00:37:26,276 Don't know. 584 00:37:26,278 --> 00:37:30,413 Maybe he's doing it to elicit some sort of response 585 00:37:30,415 --> 00:37:34,551 that is about him and maybe gives him 586 00:37:34,553 --> 00:37:38,540 continued control until the end of his life. 587 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,993 Everything Ted Bundy did was a game -- everything. 588 00:37:42,995 --> 00:37:46,596 You could ask any medical examiner 589 00:37:46,598 --> 00:37:53,169 if it's possible to do what he did with that skull. 590 00:37:53,171 --> 00:37:55,839 Burn it all the way up? 591 00:37:55,841 --> 00:37:57,841 I doubt it. 592 00:38:01,112 --> 00:38:03,213 Though Bundy may be exaggerating 593 00:38:03,215 --> 00:38:05,615 details of his heinous crimes, 594 00:38:05,617 --> 00:38:07,651 keppel has what he needs. 595 00:38:07,653 --> 00:38:11,888 He admitted to the eight murders in Washington state. 596 00:38:11,890 --> 00:38:15,859 Still, Bundy has one final surprise in store. 597 00:38:15,861 --> 00:38:18,995 How many did you kill in the northwest? 598 00:38:21,932 --> 00:38:23,433 11. 599 00:38:26,370 --> 00:38:29,205 11? 600 00:38:29,207 --> 00:38:30,674 Well, I got eight. 601 00:38:30,676 --> 00:38:34,210 The problem is that we didn't know 602 00:38:34,212 --> 00:38:36,946 which three he was adding up 603 00:38:36,948 --> 00:38:41,718 because we hadn't found any missing person cases, 604 00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:45,288 and we definitely had not found any bodies. 605 00:38:45,290 --> 00:38:47,357 Who were the others in Washington?! 606 00:38:47,359 --> 00:38:48,692 What were their names?! 607 00:38:48,694 --> 00:38:49,726 Give me more! 608 00:38:52,596 --> 00:38:55,298 The conversation was now over. 609 00:38:58,235 --> 00:38:59,755 You just signed your own death warrant. 610 00:39:01,405 --> 00:39:06,409 He didn't give enough to me for me to speak on his behalf 611 00:39:06,411 --> 00:39:08,440 to the governor of Florida. 612 00:39:08,460 --> 00:39:09,846 The games are over. 613 00:39:09,848 --> 00:39:12,282 One of America's worst serial killers 614 00:39:12,284 --> 00:39:14,751 is finally going to get the punishment 615 00:39:14,753 --> 00:39:17,153 many believe he deserves. 616 00:39:17,155 --> 00:39:20,423 I would love to see him being drug to the electric chair. 617 00:39:20,425 --> 00:39:26,663 Now, that may sound cruel, but that's exactly how I feel. 618 00:39:28,165 --> 00:39:31,134 Now, in January of 1989, 619 00:39:31,136 --> 00:39:34,304 15 years after Bundy started killing, 620 00:39:34,306 --> 00:39:36,473 keppel finally closes the case. 621 00:39:44,949 --> 00:39:47,150 He will never know whether there were 622 00:39:47,152 --> 00:39:50,220 another three victims in Washington, 623 00:39:50,222 --> 00:39:53,656 but his close encounter with Ted Bundy 624 00:39:53,658 --> 00:39:56,920 leaves a lasting impression. 625 00:39:56,940 --> 00:39:58,528 Bob was just shaken. 626 00:39:58,530 --> 00:40:02,298 He said, "I think I witnessed the devil." 627 00:40:06,604 --> 00:40:09,472 Bundy's execution was the 20th in the state of Florida 628 00:40:09,474 --> 00:40:11,641 since the death penalty was reinstated. 629 00:40:11,643 --> 00:40:14,477 Normally, a state execution is met with a storm of protest, 630 00:40:14,479 --> 00:40:16,413 but as channel 7's Joan lovett reports 631 00:40:16,415 --> 00:40:18,948 Bundy received little sympathy. 632 00:40:20,385 --> 00:40:23,720 In the early hours of January 24, 1989, 633 00:40:23,722 --> 00:40:28,240 Ted Bundy is executed by the state of Florida. 634 00:40:28,260 --> 00:40:31,861 Outside the prison, thousands rejoice. 635 00:40:31,863 --> 00:40:34,597 Bob keppel isn't one of them. 636 00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:40,103 I had actually flown home from Florida, 637 00:40:40,105 --> 00:40:42,172 and I went to bed. 638 00:40:42,174 --> 00:40:45,341 And when I woke up, he was already dead. 639 00:40:48,513 --> 00:40:51,114 I didn't have any feelings about it. 640 00:40:51,116 --> 00:40:53,950 That's what his strong suit has been 641 00:40:53,952 --> 00:40:57,821 is that he's been able to look at terrible, terrible things 642 00:40:57,823 --> 00:41:02,892 and back off and look at it from the role of the investigator. 643 00:41:02,894 --> 00:41:06,290 Otherwise, I don't think he could do his job. 644 00:41:06,310 --> 00:41:08,364 The Ted Bundy investigation 645 00:41:08,366 --> 00:41:11,935 is Bob keppel's second as a homicide detective, 646 00:41:11,937 --> 00:41:15,104 but it's the first of 50 serial-killer cases 647 00:41:15,106 --> 00:41:19,309 with which he will be involved over the course of his career. 648 00:41:19,311 --> 00:41:24,113 The lessons that I'd learned in that case 649 00:41:24,115 --> 00:41:28,551 helped me with every other case that I ever had to investigate. 650 00:41:28,553 --> 00:41:31,554 Kathleen mcchesney went on to become 651 00:41:31,556 --> 00:41:35,325 an executive assistant director at the FBI. 652 00:41:35,327 --> 00:41:37,293 She gives much credit for her achievements 653 00:41:37,295 --> 00:41:39,863 to her early mentors who took a chance 654 00:41:39,865 --> 00:41:43,399 on a young, ambitious female detective. 655 00:41:43,401 --> 00:41:45,535 From Bob keppel and Roger Dunn, 656 00:41:45,537 --> 00:41:50,306 I learned you could have an impact on society. 657 00:41:50,308 --> 00:41:53,343 You could have an impact on somebody's life. 658 00:41:53,345 --> 00:41:55,311 And that's a real treasure -- 659 00:41:55,313 --> 00:41:58,948 A real gift to be able to do that. 660 00:41:58,950 --> 00:42:01,518 Having helped convict and imprison 661 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,854 one of America's most notorious serial killers, 662 00:42:04,856 --> 00:42:08,358 Bob keppel doesn't mince his words. 663 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,394 I could tell you how I teared up 664 00:42:11,396 --> 00:42:13,963 and I felt really good and all that stuff. 665 00:42:13,965 --> 00:42:15,298 That's not true. 666 00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:17,500 None of that happened. 667 00:42:17,502 --> 00:42:23,172 I was in the business of dealing with killers. 668 00:42:23,174 --> 00:42:26,843 That's all it was. 669 00:42:26,845 --> 00:42:28,211 No more. 48533

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