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(FOOTSTEPS ECHOING)
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HAE MIN LEE: This book is open to
those whose heart is innocent.
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(WIND HOWLING)
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If you feel any guilt
reading this, you should stop.
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This book is full of my expression.
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This may make you angry,
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happy, mad, or cry,
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so do enter at your own risk.
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Dedicated to those
who I love and love me back.
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Do love and remember me forever,
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since I'll always love you all.
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NEWSMAN: Eighteen-year-old Hae Min Lee
disappeared on January 13th
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after leaving Woodlawn High School.
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On February 9th police found
her half-buried body
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in Baltimore's Leakin Park.
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She had been strangled.
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NEWSMAN 2: ...key details they had
withheld as they sought a suspect.
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They now have one in custody.
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The police suggest
the suspect had a motive
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in the form of a fatal
attraction to his victim.
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NEWSMAN 3: The subject is
identified as Adnan Masud Syed,
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17 and a former football
player who is described
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as an A student, friendly to everyone.
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NEWSMAN 1: News of Syed's
arrest is met with disbelief
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by the community in Woodlawn.
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They can't believe the boy
who had so much promise
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now faces a murder rap.
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- (BABY CRYING)
- (DISTANT DOG BARKING)
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(VOICES CHATTERING)
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(CRYING CONTINUES)
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SHAMIM RAHMAN: Baby Sidney. Yusuf?
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- (BABY CRYING)
- I'm here.
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(CHUCKLES) What happened to you?
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- (CRYING CONTINUES)
- YUSUF: Sydney.
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- (GIGGLES)
- (CHUCKLES)
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Sydney! Hi.
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Come, on Leda. Where's your blankie?
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- Here.
- Benjamin.
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Okay. Eunice, you all right?
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You're all right, okay? Come on.
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Want to sit with me?
Come on, you can sit.
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She's shy.
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Yeah, he used to help me, too.
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- WOMAN: He used to help you?
- Yeah.
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I'm sorry.
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YUSUF: When Adnan went to prison,
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it was like a big piece
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of all of us had died.
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We thought he was gone forever.
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But then Rabia,
while she was in law school
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and while she was raising two daughters,
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she was always there for us and
she was still fighting for Adnan.
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Adnan would've been forgotten by
everyone if it wasn't for Rabia.
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RABIA: It doesn't look
like a baby's room yet.
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Nothing's in here... (CHUCKLES)
because we painted.
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But this will be the nursery.
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I've got a couple of weeks
to get it set up.
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When Adnan was incarcerated,
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My older daughter...
In '99, how old was she?
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She was only two.
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This will be my third baby,
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and I hope that this baby
will get to know Adnan uncle
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in a normal environment.
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These are some of the most important
documents related to Adnan's case,
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and they're the ones that I've
been carrying around with me
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'cause I can't keep all of his
15 boxes of files with me.
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This is a flier that I made at home
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when we were raising money
for Adnan's second appeal.
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( SERIAL PODCAST THEME MUSIC PLAYS)
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For years I've been saying to Adnan,
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we should go to media,
we should go to journalists,
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because they can do things we can't do.
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I went to my laptop and I started
looking for a reporter who had
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covered the case in 1999
for the Baltimore Sun.
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And the first name I came
across was Sarah Koenig.
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She was a producer at NPR,
and I thought,
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okay, well, she's not in Baltimore
anymore, but maybe this will work.
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SARAH KOENIG: I went to go see Rabia.
She was surrounded by paper;
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Files, loose stacks, binders,
some crappy-looking boxes,
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all court documents and attorneys'
files from Adnan's case.
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I didn't even know what a podcast was.
Nobody realized...
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Even Sarah Koenig herself,
I didn't think, went into this
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um, thinking I'm going to do
like 10, 12 episodes on this,
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or it's going to turn into anything big.
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NEWSWOMAN: Adnan Syed's story
has captivated millions
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since the 2014 launch
of the podcast Serial.
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JULIANA GOLDMAN: The podcast was
downloaded more than 100 million times.
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NEWSMAN: Turning the Syed
case into a global sensation.
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RABIA: It spun out of
control very, very quickly.
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It just became a pop culture phenomenon.
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Please welcome Sarah Koenig!
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You are the world's
first superstar podcaster.
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Colbert Report, Saturday Night Live,
it was everywhere.
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And I'm so honored
and pleased to get to present
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this award to Serial and Sarah Koenig.
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We did not expect Serial to get
very much attention at all.
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It's a ten-hour audio documentary
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about an old murder
that I did not solve.
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I personally went back and forth.
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Did he do it? Did he not?
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I think Adnan probably did it,
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but this case reeks of reasonable doubt.
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RABIA: Serial turned everything
into a point of investigation.
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NEWSWOMAN: Turning listeners
into armchair detectives.
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NEWSMAN: There are lengthy discussion
groups on the website Reddit,
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conspiracy theories are floated.
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Do you buy the cops are
trying to frame Syed angle?
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Serial is what brought obsessed
people on Reddit to the case,
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who brought new evidence to the case.
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JUDY WOODRUFF: An appeal
is now forthcoming,
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one that could lead to a
new trial, a plea deal,
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or perhaps a decision by the
State to drop it entirely.
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RABIA: Serial was the first
time that I was able to see
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the case from the perspective
of other people.
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What I realized then
was that Serial, at least,
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was not going to be a story
that was going to exonerate him,
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and that in the absence
of a real smoking gun,
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evidence of his innocence
or someone else's guilt,
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that this ambiguity
would always haunt us.
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BAILIFF: State of Maryland vs.
Adnan Syed.
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Mr. Urick, I know you have preparation,
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but if we're gonna get this
through sometime this year,
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we've gotta be prepared
to start quickly, okay?
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- Please call your first witness.
- Thank you, Your Honor.
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KATHLEEN MURPHY: At this time the
state will call Mr. Young Lee.
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Good afternoon, Mr. Lee.
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What, if anything,
happened in January of 1999
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regarding your sister?
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Um, she was missing.
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I'm going to ask you to remember
back to January the 13th.
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Do you remember what happened that day?
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YOUNG LEE: Yes. I do, um,
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at first we knew something was wrong
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when we got a call
from my cousin's teacher
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asking us to pick her up
from the school.
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This was strange because
it was my sister's job.
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MURPHY: Do you know about what
time you received the phone call
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that Hae had not picked up your cousins?
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- YOUNG LEE: Around 3:30.
- What, if anything, happened next?
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I called my sister's workplace,
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her best friend, Aisha,
and I called the school.
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AISHA PITTMAN:
Her brother called to tell me,
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and the immediate thing
I did after that was page her
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and then continue paging her,
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just worrying
but not knowing what to do.
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KRISTA MEYERS: I can remember
what she was wearing
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and hearing her speak,
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because that was the last
time I would hear her talk.
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And, you know, she was...
I can remember she was wearing
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like a gray or black plaid, um, skirt...
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and a white sweater.
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And that just, like, stuck with me,
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because she always dressed up.
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DEBBIE WARREN: I can actually
still in my mind see it
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'cause I have a photographic memory
and that has never left my mind.
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I remember seeing her
exactly where I saw her.
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I can see that staircase.
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I still see her there.
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After a while my mom was real worried
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and asked me to call the police.
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OFFICER: On my arrival, I spoke
to the victim's brother,
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and he advised me that his
sister had not returned home.
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YOUNG LEE: My grandmother
brought down the diary
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that my sister writes in.
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Then I found the phone number,
then I called that number.
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MURPHY: Who did you
believe you were calling?
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I believe I was calling Don,
my sister's new boyfriend.
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What happened when you
called the number?
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I ask, may I speak to Don?
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But after speaking
to the person, the receiver,
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I knew it was Adnan.
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- Who is Adnan?
- Um, him, right there.
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(PHONE RINGING)
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ADNAN: The day she went missing
was just a normal day to me.
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I think I had told her that day,
I was going to go get my cell phone.
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So I... I called her the night before,
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and I think she wrote
the number down in her diary.
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I've never talked
to a police officer before.
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And when he called me, I was like...
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I was literally high on marijuana
and there's a cop calling me.
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So when he asked me about Hae,
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I just remember kind of like, hey,
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did I ask Hae for a ride that day?
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I spoke to, uh, Mr. Syed,
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and he advised me that, uh,
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he was supposed to get a ride
home from the victim,
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but he got detained at school and
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felt that she just got
tired of waiting and left.
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He asked if a police report
was going to be made
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'cause I had told him the
circumstances why I was calling him.
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KEVIN URICK: What did you
tell him, if you remember?
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I told him yes, a police
report's going to be made.
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ADNAN (OVER PHONE): Now I'm thinking,
Hae's mom's gonna kill her now
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when she gets home because
now the police are involved,
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and no way am I thinking
something bad happened to her.
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AISHA: I did go to bed worried,
but at the same time I was like,
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well, maybe, like,
she doesn't have her pager on
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or, like, she left it in her car.
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Maybe she's with this new
boyfriend and not responding.
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There's a number of places
that she could be.
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MURPHY: Mr. Lee, after January the 13th
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did you ever see your sister again?
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No, I didn't.
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Did you ever learn of her whereabouts?
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Uh, no.
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(POLICE SIRENS BLARING)
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SAAD CHAUDRY: You don't go
in all areas in Baltimore.
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SAAD CHAUDRY: There's a
few areas you stay in,
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and there's some areas,
if you don't need
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to go into that area, you don't.
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TANVEER SYED: When I was growing up,
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some people would, like,
use fake addresses
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to get out of the city schools
and come in to Woodlawn.
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ADNAN (OVER PHONE):
It's a world of difference
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between Baltimore County
and Baltimore City.
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Literally, it's a world of difference.
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(POLICE SIRENS BLARING)
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HOPE SCHAB: It's better than
when we lived in Baltimore,
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it'd be two o'clock, three o'clock...
pow-pow-pop-pop.
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The numbers of deaths have reached
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over 300 in certain years.
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Um, unfortunately, having
taught almost 20 years,
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I've had probably, I don't
know, four or five students
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who have died during that time,
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Hae being one of them.
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HOPE: Hae was my intern. She would
come in at 7:15 every morning
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and stay for an hour and a half.
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She would bring her coffee in
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and do work on the computer for
me or help me grade my papers.
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She was like a daughter to me.
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She always had some
cute little outfit on.
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And her hair was long
and shiny and beautiful.
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She liked fashion.
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She definitely liked to draw
and maybe that's the way
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she set her mind aside from all
the troubles that were going on.
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At the Museum of Art
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there was a Claude Monet exhibit.
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We took the French kids
to get a little culture.
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HAE: April 1st, 1998.
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I got this today, at Monet exhibit,
from the French field trip.
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I thought it would be cool
to write stuff in here
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about my life.
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So I guess I would just
start with my life so far.
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Why? Because my life won't be
considered typical to most.
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(SCHOOL BELL RINGS)
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KRISTA: Woodlawn High School
was kind of a hodgepodge
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of all different ethnicities,
all different backgrounds,
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especially when it came
to the "Magnet" program
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because we were students
from all over Baltimore County.
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DEBBIE: We had our own curriculum,
it was a lot more rigorous.
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We were doing college-level work.
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That included Hae.
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I don't even remember
exactly how we met.
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It just feels like I, you know,
always knew her in high school,
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but it was probably in French class.
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HOPE: Her best friends were
Debbie Warren and Aisha Pittman.
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Debbie was more of the straightlaced
and follow the rules.
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Aisha was a great student
as well, but I think
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she would be more of the one
to break off and cut class.
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But I don't think she'd be
caught 'cause she was too smart.
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We all cut classes, and it
wasn't just the two of us.
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Pretty much everyone
in the "Magnet" program did,
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and they just let us.
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Like, we were the "good kids" of school.
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NEWSMAN: How about any school
activities while you are here?
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Um, I played field hockey for two years,
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I've played lacrosse for two years,
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and I also manage boys wrestling.
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- Hmm, that's a lot to do.
- Yeah.
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Do you have time to, um, have
a job while you're doing this?
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Yeah, I try to manage my school
work and my after-school work.
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AISHA: Me and Hae played
field hockey together.
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That's when we became friends.
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Both of us were fans of sports
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but didn't really ever
pay attention to them.
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So, like, she was a fan
of the Dallas Cowboys,
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but probably rarely watched
an actual football game.
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She liked the blue and silver.
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KRISTA: She was just
so light and bubbly,
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and it was really hard to be
in a bad mood around her.
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But if I had to break
it down to one word,
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I'd say goofy is the best one.
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AISHA: Whatever she was
into, she was very into.
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If it was her relationship,
like, she would talk about it
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in such glowing, flowery terms,
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or playing field hockey or lacrosse
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when we'd come off in the huddles.
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HAE: April 30th, 1998.
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I have to write right now,
so I can tell about the game.
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We won!
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Dundalk was burning with rage.
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I scored three at the beginning
and Isha scored two.
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What a great way to end the season.
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LAURA ESTRADA SANDOVAL: I
played soccer, and the lacrosse
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and soccer locker rooms
were next to each other.
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So then that's how I would see Hae,
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and we'd always cheer each other on.
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But I was definitely
always closer to Adnan.
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ADNAN (OVER PHONE): I was never someone
who really studied, like, too hard.
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I just really enjoyed
going and hanging out,
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and, like, I played sports and stuff.
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But I was fortunate. I had a bunch of
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different friends I would hang out with.
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Adnan was tremendously popular
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and well-liked and well-adjusted.
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AISHA: He was always joking
with the teachers about stuff,
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just, like, confident in that way.
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KRISTA: Because we came from
all different communities,
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sometimes you went through
the cultural differences.
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Like with Adnan's family where he
wasn't allowed hang out with girls.
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I could never just call his
house and say, hey, what's up?
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If I needed to get a hold
of him, I'd have to page him
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or call his cell phone.
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And a lot of families were like that.
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ADNAN (OVER PHONE): You know,
because that's just how
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immigrant communities are.
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I can hang out with my
friends until whenever.
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My mom, really, she just
didn't want us to date.
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(LAUGHS) She's like,
look, just no girls.
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TANVEER: Adnan was
always a good student.
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And if you ask him why he was
always a good student, he's like,
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'cause I used to see you
getting into so much
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trouble for not being a good student.
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I didn't want to get in trouble.
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We're a close family. You can
see old pictures of my parents.
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There's my dad in his pinstriped
suit and his slicked back hair,
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and there's my mom
in her bell-bottom jeans
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and her floral shirt.
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We joked that our baby brother
was an accident,
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'cause, you know,
we were four years apart
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and he showed up 12 years later.
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ADNAN (OVER PHONE): My mom, she's
hilarious. Like, she's a character.
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And my dad, he used to do
everything to make my mom happy.
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All I know is, like,
a solid family home.
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When I was younger,
being religious was more
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of like a cultural thing
than a religious thing...
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like hanging out at the mosque
and stuff like that.
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You know, kind of like
identifying with my people.
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TANVEER: But it's a really
close-knit community.
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The policing in the community was
through what we call auntie network.
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Like, I remember I was talking in
Woodlawn library to some girl,
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and she gave me her number or whatever.
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And by the time I got home,
my mom was like,
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"Yeah, so you were talking
to some girl at the library."
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(CHATTERING)
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SAAD: When Adnan and I would hang out,
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mostly we'd meet at the mosque,
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and then just do little dumb
things that teenagers do,
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drive around in a car, playing
loud music or something.
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We both had girlfriends,
and we had girlfriends
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that were our high school girlfriends.
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We weren't able to have them come
over to our house and hang out.
354
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(SCHOOL BELL RINGS)
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However, we were able to hang
out with them in school,
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after school, Friday, Saturday,
go to the movies and whatnot.
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On a Friday night the auntie network,
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they'd be chasing their kids
around at whatever malls
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and busting them.
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00:20:06,705 --> 00:20:09,062
Red alert! Red alert! There are kids
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going to the movies tonight.
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We must put a stop to this!
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ADNAN (OVER PHONE): Well, my junior
year, me and Saad had just decided,
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yo, we'll be the first
Muslim guys to go to our prom.
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I was kind of like
a scaredy-cat, and I was like,
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well, I don't... I don't
even know who to ask.
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00:20:23,271 --> 00:20:25,114
I happened to run it by Debbie.
368
00:20:26,021 --> 00:20:28,479
I think I asked her if Hae
would've been interested.
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00:20:28,563 --> 00:20:31,938
I don't think I would've had
the courage to just ask Hae.
370
00:20:32,021 --> 00:20:33,844
Debbie told me, yeah, just ask her.
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And, uh, she said yeah.
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They were both, you know, had
my ear on liking the other one.
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There was a lot of
note-writing, I remember that.
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(LAUGHING) And then my saying, okay,
enough with the note-writing,
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just talk to each other!
So high school. (LAUGHING)
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But it was sweet. It was, you
know, it was young love.
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It was... it was cute. (GIGGLES)
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HAE: April 27th, 1998.
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Eek! 20 days since I wrote.
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Oh well. Let me fill you in.
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School is still a bitch,
but I'm surviving it.
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And prom was the 25th,
and I better tell about it
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while it's still fresh in my mind.
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I wore this dress that's blue
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00:21:16,312 --> 00:21:18,855
and sparkles as purple in light.
386
00:21:20,563 --> 00:21:23,396
First, he dropped me off
at Isha's, still not dressed.
387
00:21:23,479 --> 00:21:25,271
I seriously freaked because I thought
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we were going to be late for prom,
389
00:21:28,104 --> 00:21:30,021
but he got his tux.
390
00:21:30,104 --> 00:21:33,062
We took our pics,
one together, one of me,
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and one with me, Isha,
Becky, and Debbie.
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I was so crazy.
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ADNAN (OVER PHONE): She had
some sparkly silver shoes.
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It was like a blue dress
and it was like down, like,
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probably like halfway between,
like, her waist and her knee.
396
00:21:50,938 --> 00:21:52,604
She looked beautiful.
397
00:21:52,688 --> 00:21:56,104
HAE: I swear, he is
like the sweetest guy.
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Let me tell you why.
He was the prom prince,
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and Stephanie McPherson was princess.
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ADNAN (OVER PHONE): I remember I was
surprised when they announced me.
401
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I was actually, like, super
worried, like in scared,
402
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because now it would
definitely be a picture of me
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in the yearbook.
404
00:22:13,416 --> 00:22:16,730
When they announced Stephanie,
it was kind of weird in a way.
405
00:22:16,813 --> 00:22:19,229
At the end of eighth grade
me and Stephanie
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we were kind of like dating
a little bit, but not really.
407
00:22:21,759 --> 00:22:24,521
We were, we called each other
boyfriend and girlfriend.
408
00:22:24,604 --> 00:22:26,364
I wasn't really sure,
like, the etiquette was.
409
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Like, well, do I dance with my date?
410
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Do I dance with Stephanie?
411
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And Hae had this...
One of her favorite songs
412
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was the song by the duo
called K-Ci and JoJo.
413
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And they started playing that song.
414
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HAE: Traditionally, they were
supposed to dance together,
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to my song, K-Ci & JoJo's "All My Life."
416
00:22:46,563 --> 00:22:48,688
I tried to act natural and not jealous,
417
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but it did kind of bother me.
418
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But I took the pic of them
dancing and sat next to Deb,
419
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who went on about how neat it
is for Adnan to be the prince.
420
00:22:56,753 --> 00:22:58,813
Ten seconds later, guess who dances
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with me and not with Stephanie?
422
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:02,883
Adnan!
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00:23:02,917 --> 00:23:05,062
Now, how could I not fall
in love with this guy?
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♪ Baby, baby, baby, baby ♪
♪ Baby, baby, baby, baby ♪
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("ALL MY LIFE" PLAYING)
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ADNAN (OVER PHONE): I was,
like, all about my hair...
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(LAUGHING): in high school.
428
00:23:14,661 --> 00:23:18,286
I used to use, like, a ton of
product, Pantene Pro-V Shampoo.
429
00:23:18,354 --> 00:23:20,104
I used to use the Pantene hair gel,
430
00:23:20,187 --> 00:23:22,771
and so I didn't like having the crown on
431
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'cause I thought it was
messing my hair up.
432
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Hae was like, no, no, you gotta
wear it, you gotta wear it.
433
00:23:27,441 --> 00:23:29,211
She was, like,
holding my arm real tight.
434
00:23:29,245 --> 00:23:31,938
It was a nice feeling. It was kind
of like she was showing me off.
435
00:23:32,021 --> 00:23:34,688
♪ I will never find another ♪
♪ Lover sweeter than you ♪
436
00:23:34,771 --> 00:23:36,271
And the crown matched her dress.
437
00:23:36,354 --> 00:23:38,104
Like, the crown had a blue top.
438
00:23:38,187 --> 00:23:39,980
Someone asked me was she the queen,
439
00:23:40,062 --> 00:23:43,891
and I just immediately thought of it,
I said, no she's my queen though!
440
00:23:44,229 --> 00:23:46,271
And Hae was like, aw, and I was like,
441
00:23:46,354 --> 00:23:48,730
thank God I said something
smart for once.
442
00:23:48,813 --> 00:23:50,312
(LAUGHS)
443
00:23:50,396 --> 00:23:52,855
♪ And for you this song I sing ♪
444
00:23:52,938 --> 00:23:55,688
♪ And all my life ♪
445
00:23:55,771 --> 00:23:58,187
And I remember our first
kiss was at the prom.
446
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My whole life, that was one
of the best moments of my life.
447
00:24:00,688 --> 00:24:03,938
♪ And all my life ♪
448
00:24:04,021 --> 00:24:05,896
Like, one of the happiest times.
449
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(FADING): ♪ And I thank God ♪
450
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When I came home that night, as
soon as I got in the front door
451
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the hallway light went on.
I knew it was my mom.
452
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I was like, holy crap!
453
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I hurried up and threw the crown
454
00:24:20,271 --> 00:24:22,062
and my tuxedo under the stairs.
455
00:24:22,818 --> 00:24:24,238
She was like, "Oh, Adnan,
where have you been?"
456
00:24:24,271 --> 00:24:26,479
I was like, "Oh, you know,
just out hanging out."
457
00:24:26,563 --> 00:24:28,613
(LAUGHING) She was like, "It's
one o'clock in the morning."
458
00:24:28,646 --> 00:24:30,526
I was like, "Oh yeah, Mom,
you know, I'm tired."
459
00:24:30,563 --> 00:24:32,146
I'm going to go to sleep."
460
00:24:33,354 --> 00:24:35,771
HAE: Parting is such a sweet sorrow.
461
00:24:35,855 --> 00:24:39,187
The moment he went out
the door, I missed him.
462
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I went to sleep and dreamed.
463
00:24:41,870 --> 00:24:45,791
Since then, I keep on falling
deeper and deeper into him.
464
00:24:46,688 --> 00:24:50,271
He's the cutest, sweetest,
and coolest guy,
465
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and he loves me.
466
00:24:52,354 --> 00:24:55,771
The bad thing is that we
have to keep things secret.
467
00:24:55,855 --> 00:25:01,312
(SIGHS) But it's okay,
'cause love conquers all!
468
00:25:11,021 --> 00:25:13,104
(DISHES RATTLING)
469
00:25:13,187 --> 00:25:15,062
(OVEN BEEPING)
470
00:25:15,146 --> 00:25:16,933
- You want an egg with it or...?
- Mm?
471
00:25:17,026 --> 00:25:18,464
(KNOCKING)
472
00:25:18,535 --> 00:25:20,162
I think somebody's
knocking at the door, Yusuf.
473
00:25:20,195 --> 00:25:22,582
YUSUF: All right. Welcome Rabia.
474
00:25:22,683 --> 00:25:25,574
(WELCOMING RABIA IN ARABIC)
475
00:25:29,002 --> 00:25:30,753
You want me to make some food for you?
476
00:25:30,787 --> 00:25:32,896
No, I can't eat right now.
477
00:25:32,980 --> 00:25:35,646
- You look jittery.
- Do I look nice? (LAUGHING)
478
00:25:35,730 --> 00:25:37,705
You look so nice, oh my God.
479
00:25:37,739 --> 00:25:39,980
I'm jealous. I wish I could
have something like this.
480
00:25:40,062 --> 00:25:41,980
Is uncle coming to the...?
481
00:25:42,062 --> 00:25:44,222
- YUSUF: He said he's not feeling well.
- SHAMIM: Yeah.
482
00:25:44,255 --> 00:25:46,479
When he sees something,
you know, he get very depressed.
483
00:25:46,653 --> 00:25:50,062
- YUSUF: It's hard for him, super duper.
- He'll feel better if he goes.
484
00:25:50,146 --> 00:25:51,521
YUSUF: No, no, no.
485
00:25:52,020 --> 00:25:54,771
Nobody has to know
that that's Adnan's dad.
486
00:25:54,855 --> 00:25:56,196
He can just sit in the, you know...
487
00:25:56,229 --> 00:25:58,746
We can just put him in the back
quietly and he can sit there.
488
00:26:00,175 --> 00:26:03,253
- SHAMIM: Yusuf, go.
- I'll try to ask it'll be tough for him
489
00:26:03,287 --> 00:26:04,308
When seated.
490
00:26:04,342 --> 00:26:06,033
...when all the people
are coming up to him...
491
00:26:06,066 --> 00:26:07,613
- RABIA: And talking to him.
- Yeah, talking to him.
492
00:26:07,646 --> 00:26:09,071
YUSUF: Like, he built, like, a bubble
493
00:26:09,104 --> 00:26:11,271
in order to survive
everything that's happened.
494
00:26:11,354 --> 00:26:13,062
SHAMIM: Yeah.
495
00:26:13,146 --> 00:26:15,646
- Let me go talk to him.
- You know, it's okay.
496
00:26:15,730 --> 00:26:17,896
If he's not up to it, it's fine.
497
00:26:20,104 --> 00:26:23,771
SYED RAHMAN: When the
pressure of Adnan came...
498
00:26:25,021 --> 00:26:29,104
I actually took early retirement.
499
00:26:30,062 --> 00:26:33,646
It was too much pain.
500
00:26:35,312 --> 00:26:37,104
It is extremely hard,
501
00:26:37,661 --> 00:26:42,062
and you have to go through it
day in and day out.
502
00:26:42,434 --> 00:26:46,521
And you know that he is innocent. Why?
503
00:26:48,692 --> 00:26:50,918
There's more hurting really here.
504
00:26:57,980 --> 00:27:02,479
Tonight is the first time,
um, really since 1999
505
00:27:02,563 --> 00:27:05,521
that the entire community
is going to get together.
506
00:27:05,604 --> 00:27:07,312
You know, the first year there were
507
00:27:07,396 --> 00:27:09,980
a lot of meetings at the mosque.
508
00:27:10,062 --> 00:27:11,855
And then he got convicted, and, um,
509
00:27:11,938 --> 00:27:14,980
you know, that was
kind of the end of it.
510
00:27:22,855 --> 00:27:25,354
People don't understand
that when you come from...
511
00:27:25,438 --> 00:27:28,271
Especially from South Asia,
Pakistan, India, Bangladesh,
512
00:27:28,354 --> 00:27:32,021
the judiciary and the police
are very corrupt,
513
00:27:32,104 --> 00:27:33,730
and people are terrified of them.
514
00:27:33,828 --> 00:27:36,574
So it was a terrifying experience
for them to have to go to court,
515
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,855
but they have a lot of faith
in the American justice system.
516
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,896
(RABIA SPEAKING IN ARABIC)
517
00:27:42,980 --> 00:27:46,146
I'm going to stand so everybody can
see me, and so I can see everybody.
518
00:27:46,229 --> 00:27:49,438
And, uh, good evening.
Thank you guys all for coming.
519
00:27:49,521 --> 00:27:52,813
I know there are people here who have
never ever met Adnan in their life,
520
00:27:52,896 --> 00:27:55,813
and I know there are people here who
have known him since he was a child.
521
00:27:56,730 --> 00:27:58,396
There are so many layers in this story
522
00:27:58,479 --> 00:28:00,354
that have caught global attention,
523
00:28:00,438 --> 00:28:02,229
and we're hoping that
524
00:28:02,312 --> 00:28:04,396
God didn't bring us
this far for nothing.
525
00:28:05,688 --> 00:28:07,354
When you are working on a case
526
00:28:07,438 --> 00:28:09,062
that you think is a wrongful conviction,
527
00:28:09,146 --> 00:28:12,021
you're only on one side and that
side is getting to the truth.
528
00:28:12,104 --> 00:28:14,896
And that truth is...
is there for everybody.
529
00:28:14,980 --> 00:28:16,405
It's not just there for the defendant,
530
00:28:16,438 --> 00:28:18,062
it's there for the victim.
531
00:28:18,146 --> 00:28:20,646
YUSUF: Something that
gets lost in all of this
532
00:28:20,730 --> 00:28:24,187
is the person who lost their life,
533
00:28:24,271 --> 00:28:26,855
and that's Hae Min Lee.
534
00:28:26,938 --> 00:28:30,980
She was born October 15th, 1980,
535
00:28:31,793 --> 00:28:35,021
and she would've been 35 years old
536
00:28:35,104 --> 00:28:37,104
if she was alive today.
537
00:28:37,937 --> 00:28:41,021
RABIA: My prayers are always not
just that Adnan's exonerated,
538
00:28:41,104 --> 00:28:42,938
but that God brings a truth to light.
539
00:28:44,438 --> 00:28:47,396
Because that is justice for Hae.
540
00:28:53,187 --> 00:28:56,396
NEWSWOMAN: What a mess the
freezing rain left behind.
541
00:28:56,479 --> 00:28:58,855
Accidents all over the place.
542
00:28:58,938 --> 00:29:00,604
A drive through
western Baltimore County,
543
00:29:00,688 --> 00:29:02,563
and it was more of the same.
544
00:29:02,646 --> 00:29:04,563
You dodge falling branches
545
00:29:04,646 --> 00:29:06,896
on side streets just
about everywhere you go.
546
00:29:07,667 --> 00:29:09,362
It's been almost a disaster here,
547
00:29:09,438 --> 00:29:11,638
even though schools have been off,
which has been good.
548
00:29:14,730 --> 00:29:16,850
KRISTA: A lot of people in
the area didn't have power,
549
00:29:16,896 --> 00:29:18,980
because of that big ice storm
that came through.
550
00:29:19,062 --> 00:29:20,938
So when she originally went missing,
551
00:29:21,062 --> 00:29:23,104
nobody really thought a whole lot of it.
552
00:29:23,187 --> 00:29:25,521
We just assumed that she was
with her new boyfriend.
553
00:29:26,688 --> 00:29:28,855
She kept promising me, like,
554
00:29:28,938 --> 00:29:31,771
she was so looking forward
to my 18th birthday party,
555
00:29:31,855 --> 00:29:33,438
which was the 15th, and obviously,
556
00:29:33,521 --> 00:29:34,980
she went missing the 13th.
557
00:29:35,869 --> 00:29:37,453
(CAMERA CLICKING)
558
00:29:37,771 --> 00:29:41,354
I pretty much invited everybody
that was part of our class.
559
00:29:41,438 --> 00:29:44,268
(CAMERA CLICKING)
560
00:29:45,438 --> 00:29:48,229
I remember eating pizza,
and I hadn't had a warm meal,
561
00:29:48,312 --> 00:29:49,688
'cause it was, like, the snow,
562
00:29:49,771 --> 00:29:51,279
the ice storm, and there was no power.
563
00:29:51,312 --> 00:29:53,021
(CAMERA CLICKING)
564
00:29:53,111 --> 00:29:56,070
KRISTA: I think it was like
8:30 or so, and Adnan came in.
565
00:29:56,180 --> 00:29:58,646
But he and Jay and Stephanie
came in together.
566
00:30:00,021 --> 00:30:02,229
LAURA: Jay was eccentric.
567
00:30:02,312 --> 00:30:05,112
Some people described him
as like Dennis Rodman.
568
00:30:05,175 --> 00:30:07,604
He had piercings and he listened
569
00:30:07,688 --> 00:30:10,355
to heavy metal and rock music.
570
00:30:11,104 --> 00:30:13,049
KRISTA: I did not hang
out with Jay personally,
571
00:30:13,083 --> 00:30:15,568
but Stephanie asked
if he could come with her.
572
00:30:16,506 --> 00:30:18,738
You know, Hae was the... she
was the primary conversation,
573
00:30:18,771 --> 00:30:20,688
but we thought, well,
let's try to have fun.
574
00:30:20,771 --> 00:30:22,896
Maybe she'll show up.
575
00:30:23,175 --> 00:30:25,737
KRISTA: We get to the end of the
night, and she never showed up.
576
00:30:25,771 --> 00:30:27,479
(CAMERA CLICKING)
577
00:30:27,563 --> 00:30:31,479
For her not to call or page
or e-mail or anything...
578
00:30:32,646 --> 00:30:34,206
it was just really weird.
579
00:30:35,953 --> 00:30:39,657
That's when I knew, like, something
really had to be wrong with her.
580
00:30:40,646 --> 00:30:42,126
DEBBIE: They started to look for her.
581
00:30:42,194 --> 00:30:45,319
- (SIREN BLARES)
- (INDISTINCT POLICE RADIO CHATTER)
582
00:30:45,396 --> 00:30:49,521
They had the dogs down in the
creek looking for her scent.
583
00:30:53,604 --> 00:30:55,980
AISHA: My parents were
constantly asking me, like,
584
00:30:56,062 --> 00:30:58,146
is there any place
you think she could be?
585
00:30:58,229 --> 00:31:00,655
And it was like, at this point I
would definitely say something,
586
00:31:00,688 --> 00:31:03,187
I wouldn't try to protect her
587
00:31:03,271 --> 00:31:05,430
with so many people being worried.
588
00:31:05,755 --> 00:31:07,209
(WOMAN SPEAKING KOREAN)
589
00:31:49,938 --> 00:31:53,438
LAURA: The cops were at the
school asking questions.
590
00:31:55,229 --> 00:31:58,521
HOPE: I was asked by the detectives,
being that I was younger in age
591
00:31:58,604 --> 00:32:01,813
and close to a lot of
the circle that she ran in
592
00:32:01,896 --> 00:32:05,771
if I would make up some
questions that I could give
593
00:32:05,855 --> 00:32:08,062
to the girls to kind of ask around
594
00:32:08,146 --> 00:32:10,586
to see if any of the "Magnet"
students knew what was going on.
595
00:32:15,062 --> 00:32:17,479
Obviously an ex-boyfriend is going to be
596
00:32:17,563 --> 00:32:19,730
somebody of interest,
597
00:32:19,813 --> 00:32:22,104
and the only one I strictly remember is,
598
00:32:22,187 --> 00:32:24,396
was there a certain place
that Adnan and Hae would go
599
00:32:24,479 --> 00:32:25,905
and hang out and spend time together,
600
00:32:25,938 --> 00:32:28,146
where they could be away
and not be discovered.
601
00:32:28,229 --> 00:32:30,062
(TYPEWRITER CLACKING)
602
00:32:30,146 --> 00:32:32,896
I said to her, would you
please ask around,
603
00:32:32,980 --> 00:32:36,146
and she put those questions
in her agenda book.
604
00:32:37,229 --> 00:32:39,146
Each student had to carry
around an agenda book,
605
00:32:39,229 --> 00:32:40,789
and it was the only way that they could
606
00:32:40,855 --> 00:32:43,062
get out of the class
to go to the bathroom.
607
00:32:43,146 --> 00:32:44,938
The teacher would sign off.
608
00:32:45,021 --> 00:32:46,730
Adnan did not have his agenda
609
00:32:46,813 --> 00:32:48,521
and he really had to go to the bathroom,
610
00:32:48,604 --> 00:32:50,896
and so he said, Debbie,
can I borrow your planner?
611
00:32:53,021 --> 00:32:55,354
He came to me and wanted to know
612
00:32:55,438 --> 00:32:57,938
why I was asking questions about him.
613
00:32:58,021 --> 00:33:00,104
And he said, please don't do that,
614
00:33:00,187 --> 00:33:03,021
because I don't want my parents
knowing my business.
615
00:33:08,855 --> 00:33:11,438
HAE: May 1st, 1998.
616
00:33:11,521 --> 00:33:13,938
Adnan is the sweetest guy.
617
00:33:14,021 --> 00:33:16,649
I love him to death. Guess what he did?
618
00:33:16,805 --> 00:33:20,438
He went out and picked up
a single rose for me.
619
00:33:20,521 --> 00:33:24,438
And he gave it to me in
Physics. Everyone was staring.
620
00:33:24,521 --> 00:33:26,380
All I could do was just look surprised
621
00:33:26,414 --> 00:33:28,855
and just kiss him
in the middle of class.
622
00:33:30,896 --> 00:33:33,036
All day I walked around with my rose.
623
00:33:33,365 --> 00:33:35,740
Everyone was telling me
how cute it is and all.
624
00:33:36,521 --> 00:33:39,479
I came home and put it in the
heart vase I got from prom.
625
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,938
He's picking me up after SATs,
626
00:33:42,021 --> 00:33:43,646
and we're going to go somewhere.
627
00:33:43,730 --> 00:33:45,438
I can't wait!
628
00:33:47,312 --> 00:33:49,593
ADNAN (OVER PHONE): I was so
happy to have her in my life.
629
00:33:50,396 --> 00:33:52,146
Like, she was probably one of,
630
00:33:52,229 --> 00:33:54,479
if not my closest friend at the time.
631
00:33:54,563 --> 00:33:57,438
I used to make cards for her
and stuff like that.
632
00:33:59,396 --> 00:34:01,771
Sometimes I would come
visit her at nighttime,
633
00:34:02,896 --> 00:34:04,530
and I would talk to her
through the window.
634
00:34:04,563 --> 00:34:06,238
Like, she would open
the window up, and like,
635
00:34:06,271 --> 00:34:08,591
we'd just be standing right there.
We might kiss and stuff.
636
00:34:10,146 --> 00:34:12,187
HAE: Me and my baby
went out after school.
637
00:34:12,271 --> 00:34:15,688
We dropped Stephanie at Garlands
to get her car from Jay.
638
00:34:15,771 --> 00:34:18,479
Then me and Adnan made out
in the parking lot.
639
00:34:18,884 --> 00:34:20,470
Then I went to practice.
640
00:34:21,486 --> 00:34:23,780
ADNAN (OVER PHONE): Because we
couldn't go to each other's house,
641
00:34:23,813 --> 00:34:26,146
we used to hook up at Best Buy.
642
00:34:27,563 --> 00:34:30,438
We used to do that at nighttime
when it was dark outside.
643
00:34:31,688 --> 00:34:35,221
Or we would go to, you know,
like a hotel room.
644
00:34:38,312 --> 00:34:40,932
I guess it seemed like it was
a normal progression of things.
645
00:34:42,271 --> 00:34:43,646
I would just tell my mom I was
646
00:34:43,730 --> 00:34:45,813
spending the night at Saad's house.
647
00:34:45,896 --> 00:34:47,736
She told her mom she was
going to Aisha's house
648
00:34:47,813 --> 00:34:49,980
to spend the night.
649
00:34:50,062 --> 00:34:52,187
Anytime she was actually
sleeping at my house,
650
00:34:52,271 --> 00:34:53,438
he would always stop by,
651
00:34:53,521 --> 00:34:55,896
because he lived right
in my same neighborhood.
652
00:34:55,980 --> 00:34:59,479
So he would come by and knock
on my window. (LAUGHS)
653
00:35:00,321 --> 00:35:02,547
Neither of their families could know,
654
00:35:02,581 --> 00:35:07,282
so they had, like, methods of
being able to call each other.
655
00:35:07,524 --> 00:35:10,396
HAE: My baby's been gone since the 16th.
656
00:35:10,479 --> 00:35:12,104
He went to Texas with his father
657
00:35:12,187 --> 00:35:14,312
for some Muslim convention thing.
658
00:35:14,396 --> 00:35:17,730
He called me on Friday,
twice, with calling cards.
659
00:35:17,813 --> 00:35:19,438
Isn't he sweet?
660
00:35:19,521 --> 00:35:23,646
ADNAN (OVER PHONE): I would page her
and then when I would call her,
661
00:35:23,730 --> 00:35:26,479
she would already have called,
like, the weather or time.
662
00:35:26,563 --> 00:35:28,123
OPERATOR: The current temperature is...
663
00:35:28,187 --> 00:35:30,747
ADNAN: So when the call comes
through, it wouldn't actually ring.
664
00:35:30,813 --> 00:35:33,646
It'd just be call-waiting 'cause
you could just click over.
665
00:35:34,926 --> 00:35:37,113
- (PHONE BEEPING)
- SHAMIM: I used to listen to the phone.
666
00:35:37,146 --> 00:35:39,604
And he'd say, Mom, everybody's
doing it, you know,
667
00:35:39,688 --> 00:35:42,104
all the Pakistani children doing it,
668
00:35:42,187 --> 00:35:45,021
but their parents doesn't know it.
But I said, I know it.
669
00:35:46,438 --> 00:35:48,363
ADNAN (OVER PHONE): My mom,
like, she would get mad at me,
670
00:35:48,396 --> 00:35:50,521
but it would just be funny to me.
671
00:35:50,604 --> 00:35:53,104
'Cause she was always mad
at me about something, right?
672
00:35:53,657 --> 00:35:55,905
But I've never wanted to hurt my
mom, though, you know what I mean?
673
00:35:55,938 --> 00:35:58,187
That's why I would always
try to hide stuff from her.
674
00:35:58,271 --> 00:36:00,771
TANVEER: My mom and Adnan
would go back and forth.
675
00:36:00,855 --> 00:36:02,187
My dad would just be like, look,
676
00:36:02,271 --> 00:36:04,154
I just came back from work,
and I'm tired, you know.
677
00:36:04,187 --> 00:36:06,029
He's doing really good in
school. He couldn't be doing
678
00:36:06,062 --> 00:36:08,438
whatever you say he's doing
and be doing good in school.
679
00:36:10,521 --> 00:36:13,380
HAE: Do I dare to pull him
away from his religion?
680
00:36:13,930 --> 00:36:16,716
Ms. Salick was all up
in my face about it.
681
00:36:17,419 --> 00:36:19,855
She said stuff like,
well, Adnan used to be
682
00:36:19,938 --> 00:36:21,813
so religious and strict last year,
683
00:36:21,896 --> 00:36:24,229
but this year, he is so loose.
684
00:36:24,312 --> 00:36:25,833
Like I changed him.
685
00:36:26,563 --> 00:36:29,104
And I don't want to pull
him away from who he is,
686
00:36:29,194 --> 00:36:33,991
But I do know one thing;
I love him and he loves me.
687
00:36:36,563 --> 00:36:38,521
SAAD: Adnan would tell me
about her and he said,
688
00:36:38,604 --> 00:36:42,312
you know, me and her are
perfect, but she's frustrated.
689
00:36:42,396 --> 00:36:44,229
She wants a normal relationship
690
00:36:44,312 --> 00:36:46,577
where she can go over
to her boyfriend's house
691
00:36:46,611 --> 00:36:48,813
and have dinner with his family.
692
00:36:48,896 --> 00:36:50,521
And, you know, you're in high school,
693
00:36:50,604 --> 00:36:52,146
so everything's so much more dramatic.
694
00:36:52,229 --> 00:36:53,730
It's like Romeo and Juliet.
695
00:36:56,980 --> 00:36:59,479
ADNAN (OVER PHONE): With her
mom, it wasn't a strict game.
696
00:36:59,563 --> 00:37:01,187
It's just that her mom wanted to meet
697
00:37:01,271 --> 00:37:03,771
the family of who she was dating, so...
698
00:37:04,896 --> 00:37:06,688
that obviously wasn't going to happen.
699
00:37:06,771 --> 00:37:12,521
♪ Hey, what you doing? ♪
700
00:37:12,604 --> 00:37:15,479
♪ Not a lot ♪
701
00:37:15,563 --> 00:37:18,771
♪ Shaking and moving ♪
702
00:37:18,855 --> 00:37:20,896
♪ At my local spot ♪
703
00:37:20,980 --> 00:37:22,571
ADNAN (OVER THE PHONE): On the
weekends she went to go work
704
00:37:22,604 --> 00:37:24,855
at her uncle's convenience store.
705
00:37:24,938 --> 00:37:26,868
It was right near Camden Yards.
706
00:37:27,423 --> 00:37:29,876
Her mom made her go and live there
707
00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:32,021
above the store for like a week.
708
00:37:32,104 --> 00:37:34,837
It was definitely a consequence
of her seeing me.
709
00:37:36,438 --> 00:37:37,896
HAE: I had fun today.
710
00:37:37,980 --> 00:37:39,479
Probably the last fun I'll have
711
00:37:39,563 --> 00:37:41,771
before I get locked away for a week.
712
00:37:41,855 --> 00:37:44,146
We'll survive, me and my baby.
713
00:37:44,229 --> 00:37:45,396
I know for sure.
714
00:37:45,479 --> 00:37:49,062
♪ 'Cause if I had my way ♪
715
00:37:49,146 --> 00:37:52,354
♪ You would always stay ♪
716
00:37:52,438 --> 00:37:58,646
♪ And I'll be your tiny dancer, honey ♪
717
00:38:00,271 --> 00:38:03,771
AISHA: She talked about her
mom being very strict,
718
00:38:03,855 --> 00:38:05,312
so that caused a lot of tension,
719
00:38:05,396 --> 00:38:08,396
and then also having
a lot of responsibility.
720
00:38:08,479 --> 00:38:11,730
She lived with her grandparents,
her mother, her uncle,
721
00:38:11,813 --> 00:38:14,217
two younger cousins, and her brother.
722
00:38:14,771 --> 00:38:16,530
ADNAN (OVER PHONE): Being, like,
the oldest one, you know,
723
00:38:16,563 --> 00:38:18,563
she helped translate for them
and things like that.
724
00:38:18,604 --> 00:38:21,396
So she kind of felt like she had
equal footing in the household.
725
00:38:21,479 --> 00:38:23,187
She could do what she wanted to.
726
00:38:23,271 --> 00:38:25,911
If I want to have a boyfriend I
should be able to have a boyfriend.
727
00:38:26,429 --> 00:38:29,929
HAE: Damn my grandma and mother.
I'm pushing Adnan away.
728
00:38:30,616 --> 00:38:33,688
I can't get close,
and he can't get close to me.
729
00:38:33,771 --> 00:38:36,608
I can't believe things are
about to blow up in my face.
730
00:38:37,146 --> 00:38:40,271
(SIGHS) My life's a bitch.
731
00:38:40,354 --> 00:38:46,604
♪ Roses are in your country house ♪
732
00:38:46,688 --> 00:38:52,438
♪ We play guitar in your barn ♪
733
00:38:52,521 --> 00:38:54,771
AISHA: She was always
looking for an escape
734
00:38:54,855 --> 00:38:57,682
from what her home environment was.
735
00:38:58,771 --> 00:39:00,229
Now that I think about it,
736
00:39:00,312 --> 00:39:02,563
I would drop her off or pick her up,
737
00:39:02,646 --> 00:39:05,002
but I had never been in her house.
738
00:39:05,525 --> 00:39:08,236
Only like in the very front door.
739
00:39:09,730 --> 00:39:11,980
♪ I waited for you ♪
740
00:39:12,209 --> 00:39:15,342
ADNAN (ON PHONE): I know sometimes that
she would tell me okay come pick me up.
741
00:39:16,604 --> 00:39:17,938
When we were in the car,
742
00:39:18,021 --> 00:39:19,697
I would say, well, hey,
where do you want to go?
743
00:39:19,730 --> 00:39:22,011
She was like, I don't care,
hurry up, let's just get away.
744
00:39:22,604 --> 00:39:26,021
♪ You said you'd meet me ♪
♪ Out there tomorrow ♪
745
00:39:26,104 --> 00:39:32,604
♪ But tomorrow never came ♪
746
00:39:32,688 --> 00:39:38,187
♪ Tomorrow never came ♪
747
00:39:41,646 --> 00:39:44,479
No, no. She didn't...
She didn't like, you know...
748
00:39:44,563 --> 00:39:47,646
She didn't want people around
her mother and her family life.
749
00:39:47,730 --> 00:39:49,241
She just... These are my friends,
750
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,467
this is my good life over here,
this is my home life.
751
00:39:52,271 --> 00:39:55,396
And, you know, school in general
was a force of separation
752
00:39:55,479 --> 00:39:58,795
from that side of her that she
didn't really want to reveal.
753
00:40:00,688 --> 00:40:03,959
ADNAN (OVER PHONE): In public, she was
just like a positive ray of light.
754
00:40:04,563 --> 00:40:07,604
She was never the person
that you would see down.
755
00:40:07,688 --> 00:40:10,146
I think maybe being one way publicly
756
00:40:10,229 --> 00:40:12,697
but privately, you know, to go
through what she was going through,
757
00:40:12,730 --> 00:40:16,146
I think that probably put on
her a great amount of stress.
758
00:40:18,055 --> 00:40:19,438
Sometimes she would get upset
759
00:40:19,521 --> 00:40:21,980
like when she would talk
about her back home in Korea.
760
00:40:23,479 --> 00:40:26,110
We were in bed together, and,
like, she got really upset,
761
00:40:26,144 --> 00:40:27,813
like, she got super upset.
762
00:40:27,896 --> 00:40:29,521
It was almost like a standoff almost.
763
00:40:29,604 --> 00:40:32,160
Like, I'm at one edge of the
bed, and she's at the other.
764
00:40:32,194 --> 00:40:33,417
She was weeping.
765
00:40:34,646 --> 00:40:38,146
She had her face down, she had
her, like, her legs curled up.
766
00:40:40,146 --> 00:40:42,813
I'd never seen nothing like that before.
767
00:40:44,187 --> 00:40:46,813
And that's when she... She told me,
768
00:40:48,730 --> 00:40:52,917
she had been sexually abused
when she was in Korea.
769
00:40:54,312 --> 00:40:57,891
And I was in shock, 'cause I'd
never, ever experienced that,
770
00:40:57,925 --> 00:40:59,405
I didn't know anyone
who had been abused.
771
00:40:59,438 --> 00:41:01,811
I didn't know anything
about that type of abuse.
772
00:41:03,295 --> 00:41:05,521
I kind of had a feeling
like I shouldn't touch her
773
00:41:05,604 --> 00:41:07,396
while she's talking about this.
774
00:41:07,479 --> 00:41:09,938
So, you know,
so I just kind of listened.
775
00:41:11,521 --> 00:41:13,396
What was upsetting to her
is what happened
776
00:41:13,479 --> 00:41:15,778
is the person never, like,
got in trouble for it.
777
00:41:16,730 --> 00:41:19,229
She was a young girl,
this was an older person
778
00:41:19,312 --> 00:41:22,021
and she couldn't do anything
about it in a way.
779
00:41:24,604 --> 00:41:25,855
So just things like that
780
00:41:25,938 --> 00:41:29,021
that I guess I have insight in
because I knew her,
781
00:41:29,104 --> 00:41:30,980
and, you know, even with me I didn't
782
00:41:31,062 --> 00:41:32,938
really get the full depth of it.
783
00:41:33,021 --> 00:41:35,221
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you guys don't know Hae.
784
00:41:35,271 --> 00:41:38,021
People who have researched
this case don't know Hae.
785
00:41:39,438 --> 00:41:42,938
She did confide in me about that.
786
00:41:43,283 --> 00:41:45,113
I don't think it's something
she would've been willing
787
00:41:45,146 --> 00:41:46,771
to testify about, or
788
00:41:47,057 --> 00:41:49,196
if that would've happened, it
probably would've been years later.
789
00:41:49,229 --> 00:41:51,400
And she, of course, was never
given that opportunity.
790
00:41:53,354 --> 00:41:55,896
I suspect that that was why
she associated her family
791
00:41:55,980 --> 00:41:58,642
with a culture that she just
didn't want to be a part of.
792
00:41:59,604 --> 00:42:02,279
Ultimately, at the end of the day,
she didn't have an escape from that.
793
00:42:02,312 --> 00:42:04,646
I mean, that was her household,
and she didn't really have
794
00:42:04,730 --> 00:42:06,611
a choice to exist outside of that.
795
00:42:09,438 --> 00:42:12,134
HAE: August 27th, 1998.
796
00:42:12,730 --> 00:42:16,861
Now that I look back at the
last five months, I regret it.
797
00:42:17,438 --> 00:42:20,428
Why? Because I have lost myself.
798
00:42:21,187 --> 00:42:23,813
All the lies I told
my mother, my family.
799
00:42:24,514 --> 00:42:26,646
Did I mention my grandparents
bought a cord phone
800
00:42:26,730 --> 00:42:29,271
to replace the cordless in the kitchen,
801
00:42:29,354 --> 00:42:31,467
to stop my excessive use of phone?
802
00:42:32,202 --> 00:42:34,717
Did I push them so far
that they did that?
803
00:42:35,646 --> 00:42:38,771
It seems like my life has
been revolving around him.
804
00:42:38,855 --> 00:42:43,312
Where's me? (SIGHS) Love hurts.
805
00:42:45,147 --> 00:42:47,071
DEBBIE: Things were closing in
on her, that's the way she felt.
806
00:42:47,104 --> 00:42:48,771
And she liked to be free and open,
807
00:42:48,855 --> 00:42:50,730
and it reminded her of,
you know, her mother's
808
00:42:50,813 --> 00:42:52,688
control over her,
her uncle's control over her.
809
00:42:52,771 --> 00:42:54,229
That had been so much of her life.
810
00:42:54,312 --> 00:42:56,529
The last thing she wanted
was that in her relationship.
811
00:42:57,604 --> 00:42:59,479
That became more of a public issue
812
00:42:59,563 --> 00:43:02,396
when Adnan's parents came to the dance.
813
00:43:04,396 --> 00:43:05,855
TANVEER: The reason they did that
814
00:43:05,938 --> 00:43:08,855
was because my dad didn't
believe that Adnan was dating.
815
00:43:08,938 --> 00:43:10,988
I don't believe you, I don't
believe you. He's not dating.
816
00:43:11,021 --> 00:43:12,813
He can't get these
good grades and be dating.
817
00:43:12,896 --> 00:43:14,604
You don't believe me?
You don't believe me?
818
00:43:14,688 --> 00:43:16,396
Let's go take a trip to the school.
819
00:43:16,479 --> 00:43:18,771
I just remember her
freaking out about it, like,
820
00:43:18,847 --> 00:43:22,201
he's here with his parents,
like, what do we... like, what...
821
00:43:22,243 --> 00:43:25,855
And I just know that
she wanted to get out of there.
822
00:43:25,938 --> 00:43:29,314
I just remember that moment
and him sitting there
823
00:43:29,422 --> 00:43:32,595
embarrassed and frustrated
at the same time.
824
00:43:33,521 --> 00:43:35,521
HAE: Okay, here it goes.
825
00:43:37,146 --> 00:43:39,062
I'm really getting annoyed
that the situation
826
00:43:39,153 --> 00:43:40,736
is going the way it is.
827
00:43:41,021 --> 00:43:43,563
At first, I kind of want
to make this easy
828
00:43:43,646 --> 00:43:45,104
for me and for you.
829
00:43:45,187 --> 00:43:49,392
People break up all the time.
Your life is not going to end.
830
00:43:49,911 --> 00:43:51,876
You'll move on and I'll move on.
831
00:43:52,354 --> 00:43:54,134
But, apparently,
you don't respect me enough
832
00:43:54,168 --> 00:43:55,798
to accept my decision.
833
00:43:56,646 --> 00:43:59,354
This was definitely written
834
00:43:59,446 --> 00:44:02,384
probably the Monday
or Tuesday after homecoming.
835
00:44:03,478 --> 00:44:04,855
HAE: The more fuss you make,
836
00:44:04,938 --> 00:44:07,438
the more I'm determined
to do what I got to do.
837
00:44:07,521 --> 00:44:11,146
I'll be busy today, tomorrow,
and probably till Thursday.
838
00:44:11,229 --> 00:44:12,771
I've got other things to do.
839
00:44:12,855 --> 00:44:15,604
Better than give you any hope
that we'll get back together.
840
00:44:15,688 --> 00:44:19,563
I really don't see that
happening, especially now.
841
00:44:19,646 --> 00:44:23,855
I never want to end this
like this, so hostile and cold.
842
00:44:25,646 --> 00:44:27,104
Hate me if you will,
843
00:44:27,187 --> 00:44:30,146
but you should remember
that I can never hate you.
844
00:44:31,438 --> 00:44:34,478
KRISTA: So this was definitely
not their last breakup.
845
00:44:34,634 --> 00:44:36,271
They got back together after this.
846
00:44:36,354 --> 00:44:38,813
(SCHOOL BELL RINGING)
847
00:44:39,181 --> 00:44:42,275
You can't make logic out
of a teenage life. (LAUGHS)
848
00:44:42,352 --> 00:44:45,111
You just can't. Teenagers
are all over the place.
849
00:44:46,146 --> 00:44:48,980
You fall in love, you fall
out of love, you go back.
850
00:44:49,673 --> 00:44:51,530
You think you're old enough
to make your own decisions,
851
00:44:51,563 --> 00:44:53,029
but then you're not really old enough...
852
00:44:53,062 --> 00:44:55,312
(LAUGHING): to make your own decisions.
853
00:44:55,396 --> 00:44:57,396
And you make some choices
that sometimes are good
854
00:44:57,479 --> 00:44:59,438
and sometimes are bad.
855
00:45:02,521 --> 00:45:04,104
(GAVEL BANGS)
856
00:45:04,353 --> 00:45:06,896
MURPHY: The State's next witness
is Ms. Debbie Warren.
857
00:45:06,980 --> 00:45:09,730
Ms. Warren, will you step up
to the witness stand?
858
00:45:12,104 --> 00:45:13,980
Ms. Warren, did you become aware
859
00:45:14,062 --> 00:45:16,896
of any breakups in their relationship?
860
00:45:16,980 --> 00:45:19,312
They had broken up probably two times
861
00:45:19,396 --> 00:45:21,181
before their final breakup
862
00:45:21,321 --> 00:45:25,021
between December and January of '99.
863
00:45:25,104 --> 00:45:28,563
Were you ever aware
that Hae dated anyone else
864
00:45:28,646 --> 00:45:30,062
after the final breakup?
865
00:45:30,146 --> 00:45:32,312
- Yes, she did.
- Who was that?
866
00:45:32,396 --> 00:45:34,111
Um, Donny.
867
00:45:35,271 --> 00:45:37,563
HAE: December 6th.
868
00:45:37,646 --> 00:45:39,896
What's the matter with me?
869
00:45:39,980 --> 00:45:43,187
Every time I close my eyes,
I see my baby,
870
00:45:43,271 --> 00:45:45,771
but I keep on thinking
about someone else...
871
00:45:46,856 --> 00:45:48,856
Don Clinedinst.
872
00:45:49,104 --> 00:45:52,104
Why? I don't know.
873
00:45:52,187 --> 00:45:54,438
But I keep wanting to get closer to him.
874
00:45:55,251 --> 00:45:57,479
I'm going to have to get
my thoughts straight.
875
00:45:58,197 --> 00:45:59,781
I do love Adnan,
876
00:46:00,021 --> 00:46:01,970
but today I kept on imagining
877
00:46:02,004 --> 00:46:04,521
Don over my body instead of Adnan.
878
00:46:06,438 --> 00:46:08,610
Don is what I would go for in my past.
879
00:46:09,187 --> 00:46:15,312
Blond, blue eyes, white,
built, sexy, and nice Camaro.
880
00:46:18,479 --> 00:46:22,048
AISHA: They worked
together at LensCrafters.
881
00:46:22,980 --> 00:46:24,923
My assumption was that he was someone
882
00:46:24,957 --> 00:46:27,771
around the same age
working at LensCrafters.
883
00:46:27,855 --> 00:46:29,730
When I actually met him, I was like,
884
00:46:29,820 --> 00:46:31,923
oh, he's a lot older than us.
885
00:46:32,813 --> 00:46:35,521
DEBBIE: I knew his name, I knew
that he worked with Hae,
886
00:46:35,604 --> 00:46:37,618
I knew that he was 22 years old.
887
00:46:38,243 --> 00:46:40,970
I sensed her just falling head
over heels way too quickly,
888
00:46:41,004 --> 00:46:42,860
and it was just too much too soon.
889
00:46:43,396 --> 00:46:44,813
She just came from a relationship
890
00:46:44,896 --> 00:46:46,496
that had the element of sneaking around,
891
00:46:46,563 --> 00:46:48,896
and she's doing the same thing again!
892
00:46:51,258 --> 00:46:52,736
ADNAN (OVER PHONE): I guess we were in
the part where we
893
00:46:52,769 --> 00:46:54,368
were transitioning towards friendship.
894
00:46:55,368 --> 00:46:57,312
MURPHY: Did the defendant ever discuss
895
00:46:57,396 --> 00:46:59,079
the fact of Donny with you?
896
00:46:59,548 --> 00:47:01,204
He told me that he thought
897
00:47:01,462 --> 00:47:04,438
that Hae was having
a relationship with him
898
00:47:04,536 --> 00:47:06,464
while she was still with Adnan.
899
00:47:07,769 --> 00:47:09,655
ADNAN (OVER PHONE): They
portrayed it as if, you know,
900
00:47:09,688 --> 00:47:12,229
I was angry with her, upset with her,
901
00:47:12,312 --> 00:47:13,688
that the final straw was
902
00:47:13,771 --> 00:47:15,735
when I found out she started dating Don,
903
00:47:15,769 --> 00:47:17,655
as if she didn't tell me
that she started dating Don,
904
00:47:17,688 --> 00:47:19,534
as if she didn't introduce me to Don.
905
00:47:21,438 --> 00:47:24,021
HAE: January 12th, 1999.
906
00:47:24,104 --> 00:47:27,847
I love you, Don.
I think I found my soul mate.
907
00:47:28,438 --> 00:47:29,870
I love you so much.
908
00:47:30,438 --> 00:47:32,688
I fell in love with you
the moment I opened my eyes
909
00:47:32,771 --> 00:47:35,438
to see you in the break room
for the first time.
910
00:47:36,980 --> 00:47:39,646
MURPHY: Thinking back to
the last day you saw Hae,
911
00:47:39,730 --> 00:47:41,151
January 13th,
912
00:47:41,862 --> 00:47:44,675
what was she doing at that
particular point in time?
913
00:47:46,229 --> 00:47:49,563
DEBBIE: She was in a
rush to go somewhere.
914
00:47:51,178 --> 00:47:52,582
She would've come out of the staircase
915
00:47:52,615 --> 00:47:54,146
directly out of these doors,
916
00:47:54,229 --> 00:47:56,451
down this walkway
and right there to her car.
917
00:47:57,354 --> 00:47:59,855
She was intending to pick up her cousin
918
00:47:59,938 --> 00:48:02,771
directly after leaving
and then going to see Don.
919
00:48:03,372 --> 00:48:05,239
She was happy. She was excited.
920
00:48:05,980 --> 00:48:09,154
I was guarded and cautious
and warning her, but...
921
00:48:11,354 --> 00:48:15,104
I've gone over it in my mind
again and again and again.
922
00:48:17,813 --> 00:48:19,947
ADNAN (OVER PHONE): I feel
like the day she went missing,
923
00:48:19,980 --> 00:48:21,446
we should've all, like, gotten together
924
00:48:21,479 --> 00:48:23,051
and, like, made a huge thing about it.
925
00:48:24,271 --> 00:48:26,855
I don't know, just like
we should've done more, maybe.
926
00:48:26,938 --> 00:48:29,181
Maybe I should've done more.
927
00:48:31,104 --> 00:48:33,521
AISHA: I look back on
that and feel like I was
928
00:48:33,604 --> 00:48:35,251
stunned into inaction.
929
00:48:35,938 --> 00:48:37,521
And I think it's just that part of you
930
00:48:37,604 --> 00:48:40,604
that wants to think
that something is okay.
931
00:48:43,396 --> 00:48:46,688
I don't know that it ever fully hit me
932
00:48:46,771 --> 00:48:48,229
that something could be wrong
933
00:48:48,312 --> 00:48:52,188
until her brother told me
they found her body.
934
00:48:56,438 --> 00:48:58,354
(PHONE RINGING)
935
00:48:58,789 --> 00:49:01,146
OPERATOR: 9-1-1. What's your emergency?
936
00:49:01,813 --> 00:49:04,146
(ALONZO SELLERS SPEAKING)
937
00:49:07,563 --> 00:49:11,062
CRISTINA GUTIERREZ: The defense will
call Alonzo Sellers to the stand.
938
00:49:11,146 --> 00:49:12,980
Mr. Sellers, please step all the way up
939
00:49:13,062 --> 00:49:14,406
to the witness stand, please.
940
00:49:15,521 --> 00:49:17,187
All the way up here.
941
00:49:19,646 --> 00:49:22,521
Listen to Ms. Gutierrez who
has some questions for you.
942
00:49:22,952 --> 00:49:25,563
GUTIERREZ: Mr. Sellers, let
me direct your attention
943
00:49:25,646 --> 00:49:28,656
back to February the 9th, 1999.
944
00:49:28,718 --> 00:49:29,805
Do you recall that day?
945
00:49:31,646 --> 00:49:33,630
Well, sir, you recall
the day that you found
946
00:49:33,692 --> 00:49:35,419
the body in Leakin Park, don't you?
947
00:49:36,021 --> 00:49:38,731
That was a pretty important
day for you, was it not?
948
00:49:38,786 --> 00:49:40,091
- URICK: Objection!
- If you explained that...
949
00:49:40,124 --> 00:49:41,684
I would know what you're talking about.
950
00:49:41,871 --> 00:49:42,910
GUTIERREZ: Okay, now...
951
00:49:43,082 --> 00:49:44,532
on that day you left
952
00:49:44,574 --> 00:49:47,112
- your work at Compton State College?
- Yeah.
953
00:49:47,187 --> 00:49:49,938
You traveled from Compton to your home
954
00:49:50,021 --> 00:49:53,771
by way of Franklintown Road?
955
00:49:53,855 --> 00:49:56,062
SELLERS: Yes, I traveled that way, yeah.
956
00:49:56,146 --> 00:49:58,771
GUTIERREZ: And that's an area
where there aren't any houses,
957
00:49:58,855 --> 00:50:00,438
it's just woods?
958
00:50:00,505 --> 00:50:02,239
I guess it is. It's a park.
959
00:50:02,289 --> 00:50:04,138
(HAWK SCREECHING)
960
00:50:04,277 --> 00:50:06,525
(ALONZO SPEAKING)
961
00:50:17,521 --> 00:50:20,229
(CAMERA CLICKING)
962
00:50:52,980 --> 00:50:54,855
NEWSMAN: Apparently a passerby
963
00:50:54,938 --> 00:50:57,593
discovered the body
of an 18-year-old female.
964
00:50:57,656 --> 00:50:59,479
The detectives and medical
examiner were there
965
00:50:59,563 --> 00:51:01,238
throughout the evening
trying to locate any type
966
00:51:01,271 --> 00:51:03,479
of physical evidence
or other trace evidence.
967
00:51:34,604 --> 00:51:37,104
(SUN SPEAKING KOREAN)
968
00:51:44,688 --> 00:51:47,438
(NEWSWOMAN SPEAKING IN KOREAN)
969
00:51:47,521 --> 00:51:49,354
(SOBBING)
970
00:51:49,438 --> 00:51:52,229
We just want to know who did it and why,
971
00:51:52,312 --> 00:51:54,396
because she's just a nice person.
972
00:51:54,479 --> 00:51:56,771
(SUN SPEAKING KOREAN)
973
00:52:05,828 --> 00:52:08,119
NEWSWOMAN: Police are
not saying how Lee died
974
00:52:08,187 --> 00:52:10,894
or how long her body may
have been in Leakin Park.
975
00:52:11,034 --> 00:52:14,479
They continue to search
for the 1998 Nissan Sentra
976
00:52:14,563 --> 00:52:15,903
she was driving.
977
00:52:21,521 --> 00:52:23,396
KRISTA: You know, I'm the
one that told Adnan.
978
00:52:24,270 --> 00:52:27,676
I said, you know, they found Hae's body.
She's not alive anymore.
979
00:52:27,935 --> 00:52:30,563
And it was like a pin drop
on the other side
980
00:52:30,646 --> 00:52:32,896
of the phone, like complete silence.
981
00:52:35,229 --> 00:52:37,396
I just kept saying like, are you okay?
982
00:52:37,479 --> 00:52:40,354
What do you need me to do?
Like, just say something.
983
00:52:40,438 --> 00:52:42,844
And he said, is Aisha home?
984
00:52:44,021 --> 00:52:46,334
He said I'm going to go to her
house, can you just call her
985
00:52:46,367 --> 00:52:48,479
and tell her I'm headed that way?
986
00:52:51,646 --> 00:52:57,855
AISHA: Everyone there was just sad
and devastated, including Adnan.
987
00:53:00,052 --> 00:53:02,612
KRISTA: By the time I got there,
he had been there a few minutes.
988
00:53:03,521 --> 00:53:06,271
He just kept saying things like
they had the wrong person,
989
00:53:06,361 --> 00:53:07,797
like this can't be Hae.
990
00:53:08,688 --> 00:53:10,974
He picked up his cell phone
and he started
991
00:53:11,008 --> 00:53:13,312
calling the police
that were investigating,
992
00:53:13,396 --> 00:53:15,438
and the lady said, you're
going to have to call back
993
00:53:15,521 --> 00:53:17,187
and talk to homicide in the morning.
994
00:53:17,271 --> 00:53:19,533
And he just kind of busted out crying.
995
00:53:20,479 --> 00:53:24,062
In the days after that,
it slowly sunk in and it was...
996
00:53:24,146 --> 00:53:25,938
He was an emotional mess,
997
00:53:26,021 --> 00:53:28,436
pretty much is what
I can boil it down to.
998
00:53:29,646 --> 00:53:31,279
ADNAN (OVER PHONE): It was
just really tough, you know,
999
00:53:31,312 --> 00:53:33,479
just to go through
the motions of everything.
1000
00:53:33,563 --> 00:53:35,104
But it was like you had to,
1001
00:53:35,194 --> 00:53:36,850
because, like, your life wouldn't stop.
1002
00:53:39,646 --> 00:53:43,529
HOPE: I remember crying with
the girls, Debbie and Aisha.
1003
00:53:44,604 --> 00:53:48,479
I have a clear recollection
of going up to Adnan
1004
00:53:48,563 --> 00:53:50,980
and hugging him and just
saying I'm so sorry,
1005
00:53:51,062 --> 00:53:53,396
and I wrapped my arms around him...
1006
00:53:55,229 --> 00:53:58,980
but I got a very just stern...
1007
00:53:59,062 --> 00:54:00,938
And I don't know if that
was a cultural thing,
1008
00:54:01,021 --> 00:54:02,944
I don't know if I should've hugged him.
1009
00:54:04,155 --> 00:54:06,396
I don't know if it was
something to read into or not,
1010
00:54:06,479 --> 00:54:08,694
but it wasn't reciprocated back.
1011
00:54:10,085 --> 00:54:12,438
I think I took it a little personally.
1012
00:54:16,021 --> 00:54:18,563
We planned a memorial for Hae.
1013
00:54:18,646 --> 00:54:21,563
We invited her mom and her brother.
1014
00:54:23,104 --> 00:54:26,896
KRISTA: When someone close to
you dies, it hits you hard,
1015
00:54:26,980 --> 00:54:30,021
and it makes you appreciate
life and it should.
1016
00:54:30,095 --> 00:54:34,747
Life is short and you should experience
and live every moment of it.
1017
00:54:36,354 --> 00:54:38,738
ADNAN (OVER PHONE): Like, it's
horrible enough that someone dies,
1018
00:54:38,771 --> 00:54:40,604
but for someone to be murdered...
1019
00:54:40,688 --> 00:54:41,980
like, who could've done it,
1020
00:54:42,062 --> 00:54:44,479
like, why would someone
have done it, you know?
1021
00:54:46,021 --> 00:54:49,730
Somebody knew somebody
that I cared about
1022
00:54:49,813 --> 00:54:51,813
well enough to get close to them
1023
00:54:51,896 --> 00:54:54,604
that they would never
breathe another day,
1024
00:54:54,688 --> 00:54:57,021
and that, you know, it sticks with you.
1025
00:54:58,646 --> 00:55:00,953
It could've been anybody.
1026
00:55:06,646 --> 00:55:11,146
DARRYL MASSEY: In the 72-hour
window after the victim was found,
1027
00:55:11,475 --> 00:55:16,771
I will say there wasn't any
particular person of interest.
1028
00:55:17,835 --> 00:55:21,104
I think the trend and the
culture of everybody believing
1029
00:55:21,187 --> 00:55:24,104
the husband did it,
the boyfriend did it,
1030
00:55:24,187 --> 00:55:27,437
if you get in that narrow
path of thinking,
1031
00:55:28,234 --> 00:55:32,479
you only hurt yourself in an
investigation. You really do.
1032
00:55:34,609 --> 00:55:37,859
LAURA: When we got news
that they found Hae's body,
1033
00:55:38,765 --> 00:55:42,646
we asked who found her body,
and they said a hiker.
1034
00:55:42,730 --> 00:55:44,855
And our immediate reaction, I remember,
1035
00:55:44,938 --> 00:55:49,980
is Krista was saying that...
Then who's this hiker?
1036
00:55:50,062 --> 00:55:52,187
(WOMAN SPEAKING)
1037
00:55:57,602 --> 00:55:59,480
I have nothing to support...
1038
00:56:01,479 --> 00:56:03,271
that he didn't.
1039
00:56:03,354 --> 00:56:06,021
Don't think he wasn't looked at.
1040
00:56:07,980 --> 00:56:13,187
I certainly understood some
prior documented issues,
1041
00:56:14,771 --> 00:56:18,359
but that in itself
doesn't make him a killer.
1042
00:56:19,187 --> 00:56:21,396
It makes him an unusual person.
1043
00:56:21,479 --> 00:56:23,359
I always knew it had to be
someone close to her,
1044
00:56:23,396 --> 00:56:24,855
because strangulation always is.
1045
00:56:24,938 --> 00:56:27,363
You know, it's not the kind of
thing a complete stranger does,
1046
00:56:27,396 --> 00:56:29,241
unless it's a serial killer.
1047
00:56:30,187 --> 00:56:33,354
HOPE: Don was new to us,
so he was a possibility.
1048
00:56:33,438 --> 00:56:36,604
And what does a man in his early 20s
1049
00:56:36,703 --> 00:56:38,288
want with a girl that young?
1050
00:56:54,730 --> 00:56:56,571
TYLER MARONEY: Let's talk
about Don for a second.
1051
00:56:56,604 --> 00:56:58,479
And what makes him important.
1052
00:56:58,563 --> 00:57:00,021
TYLER: Well, you know, he's somebody
1053
00:57:00,104 --> 00:57:01,604
who was very close to the victim.
1054
00:57:01,688 --> 00:57:04,855
It's our responsibility as
investigators to go beyond,
1055
00:57:04,938 --> 00:57:07,312
frankly, what law enforcement
has already done
1056
00:57:07,396 --> 00:57:10,089
and to consider other suspects.
1057
00:57:11,589 --> 00:57:13,121
- Rabia.
- Oh, hi.
1058
00:57:13,191 --> 00:57:14,863
- Tyler Maroney, nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you, too.
1059
00:57:14,896 --> 00:57:16,200
Thanks for coming all
the way to New York.
1060
00:57:16,233 --> 00:57:17,692
Oh gosh, not at all. I'm so excited.
1061
00:57:18,896 --> 00:57:20,936
LUKE: The failure to investigate
Don more thoroughly
1062
00:57:20,980 --> 00:57:23,271
just really stands out
as a major mistake.
1063
00:57:23,885 --> 00:57:26,550
RABIA: I never thought about him
over all these years, to be honest.
1064
00:57:26,583 --> 00:57:30,744
- Why?
- Because I thought he was at work.
1065
00:57:33,586 --> 00:57:35,419
We know that Hae spent
the evening with him
1066
00:57:35,479 --> 00:57:37,599
the night before,
got home late at night.
1067
00:57:38,479 --> 00:57:40,396
According to Don he was supposed
1068
00:57:40,479 --> 00:57:42,669
to see her after work on the 13th.
1069
00:57:47,312 --> 00:57:49,521
He says he gets home
around seven o'clock,
1070
00:57:49,604 --> 00:57:52,646
and when he gets home, the police
has called looking for her.
1071
00:57:53,244 --> 00:57:55,730
The police don't get ahold
of him until 1:30 that night.
1072
00:58:00,337 --> 00:58:01,947
TYLER: This is the first
time that we know
1073
00:58:01,980 --> 00:58:05,271
that Don had contact
with the police, right?
1074
00:58:05,354 --> 00:58:06,938
RABIA: That's a big gap. Where was he?
1075
00:58:07,021 --> 00:58:08,730
What was he doing in that whole time?
1076
00:58:08,813 --> 00:58:12,074
Why didn't he try to contact
her or call the police back?
1077
00:58:13,604 --> 00:58:16,016
RABIA: In that time period,
the police did start
1078
00:58:16,050 --> 00:58:17,396
canvasing parking lots.
1079
00:58:21,855 --> 00:58:25,058
They even contacted Harford County,
which is where Don lived,
1080
00:58:25,113 --> 00:58:28,021
and asked them to take
a look for her car then.
1081
00:58:35,855 --> 00:58:38,011
Nobody had bothered, not even
the police had bothered
1082
00:58:38,045 --> 00:58:39,896
to get his actual time sheets
for that day.
1083
00:58:39,980 --> 00:58:43,354
These weren't retrieved
until October of that year
1084
00:58:43,438 --> 00:58:44,730
by Adnan's attorney.
1085
00:58:45,348 --> 00:58:48,987
When they also produced
that to the prosecutor,
1086
00:58:49,062 --> 00:58:51,312
it came with a letter that said
1087
00:58:51,396 --> 00:58:54,187
that Don's mother is his manager.
1088
00:58:56,146 --> 00:58:59,104
His alibi was really his mom.
1089
00:59:00,604 --> 00:59:02,855
These things kind of
cumulatively make me suspicious,
1090
00:59:02,938 --> 00:59:04,571
but, you know, I have
to keep pulling myself back,
1091
00:59:04,604 --> 00:59:06,697
because I know that when you
look at something in hindsight,
1092
00:59:06,730 --> 00:59:08,303
- which is what happened with Adnan...
- Yeah.
1093
00:59:08,336 --> 00:59:10,596
...people thought, oh okay,
now that he's been arrested,
1094
00:59:10,646 --> 00:59:12,577
oh, that was kind of suspicious
and that was kind of sus...
1095
00:59:12,610 --> 00:59:15,405
But there's also the fact that
there's a witness at the school,
1096
00:59:15,438 --> 00:59:17,021
a classmate of Hae's,
1097
00:59:17,365 --> 00:59:20,563
who says that she saw Hae
before she was leaving school
1098
00:59:20,646 --> 00:59:22,604
and that she had told her she was going
1099
00:59:22,688 --> 00:59:24,261
to meet with Don at the mall.
1100
00:59:25,166 --> 00:59:28,450
It made Debbie suspicious
enough of Don that she actually
1101
00:59:28,513 --> 00:59:31,122
started kind of... she wanted
to investigate him herself.
1102
00:59:31,855 --> 00:59:34,896
And this is in police statements.
She told police she did this.
1103
00:59:41,438 --> 00:59:43,730
DEBBIE: Somehow I got in
touch with him online.
1104
00:59:43,813 --> 00:59:45,121
That was our initial contact.
1105
00:59:45,176 --> 00:59:46,856
And he was eager to give
me his information
1106
00:59:46,896 --> 00:59:49,438
and talk to me and everything.
He was very open.
1107
00:59:53,805 --> 00:59:55,946
Pretty much everything
after that was telephone.
1108
00:59:57,646 --> 01:00:00,521
You know, I just tried to find
out how much he cared about her,
1109
01:00:00,604 --> 01:00:02,396
what he knew about her disappearance.
1110
01:00:02,479 --> 01:00:03,863
And I don't recall when it was we had
1111
01:00:03,896 --> 01:00:06,146
that seven-hour
conversation, but we did.
1112
01:00:07,246 --> 01:00:09,187
It was spring break and my sister was
1113
01:00:09,271 --> 01:00:11,104
attending College Park,
she lived on campus.
1114
01:00:11,187 --> 01:00:12,826
I was going to go stay
with her for that whole week.
1115
01:00:12,859 --> 01:00:15,604
So I had told, you know,
told Don all of this and he,
1116
01:00:15,688 --> 01:00:18,771
you know, oh, let me come visit
you while I'm there. So, okay.
1117
01:00:19,035 --> 01:00:20,613
I guess it was that evening
that was the first time
1118
01:00:20,646 --> 01:00:22,637
he had really expressed,
like, romantic interest.
1119
01:00:23,229 --> 01:00:25,271
And it was kind of odd.
I didn't really know
1120
01:00:25,354 --> 01:00:26,980
what to do with that. But, um, you know,
1121
01:00:27,069 --> 01:00:29,440
he made it very clear that that's
what he was interested in.
1122
01:00:30,149 --> 01:00:34,032
And I guess to some extent I went
along with it for some time, um...
1123
01:00:36,187 --> 01:00:39,438
but you know, I... I did make it
clear to him that I was not,
1124
01:00:39,521 --> 01:00:43,730
you know, sexual... that that,
you know, not something...
1125
01:00:44,636 --> 01:00:46,688
Not something we were
going to be involved in.
1126
01:00:46,771 --> 01:00:48,688
How that all ended up
playing out, I just...
1127
01:00:48,771 --> 01:00:50,321
My mind completely blocks
it off after that.
1128
01:00:50,354 --> 01:00:52,312
I don't... I don't have
much recollection.
1129
01:00:53,646 --> 01:00:56,082
I wasn't sure if he was, you know,
1130
01:00:56,116 --> 01:00:59,646
trying to recapture what he
had with Hae in some way.
1131
01:01:01,354 --> 01:01:03,479
(DON SPEAKING)
1132
01:01:46,466 --> 01:01:49,146
(WOMAN SPEAKING)
1133
01:01:49,229 --> 01:01:54,730
Well, I knew... That was a learned fact.
1134
01:01:54,813 --> 01:01:57,565
Don't think he didn't go uninvestigated.
1135
01:01:58,112 --> 01:02:00,438
(WOMAN SPEAKING)
1136
01:02:01,730 --> 01:02:03,938
Would a mother lie for him? Sure.
1137
01:02:05,563 --> 01:02:08,646
He could've caught equal attention
1138
01:02:08,730 --> 01:02:10,813
that the defendant did,
1139
01:02:10,896 --> 01:02:14,360
but he didn't have any phone
calls come in about him.
1140
01:02:16,855 --> 01:02:20,204
It's the 12th of February, 1999.
1141
01:02:21,146 --> 01:02:23,938
I'm in the office
and I answered the phone.
1142
01:02:24,021 --> 01:02:26,354
It was an anonymous caller.
1143
01:02:26,438 --> 01:02:29,450
An Asian male, probably Korean, said,
1144
01:02:29,724 --> 01:02:32,438
"You should concentrate
on the victim's boyfriend."
1145
01:02:33,730 --> 01:02:36,013
Well, you know his name? Yeah.
1146
01:02:36,075 --> 01:02:38,021
And that's when he provides the name.
1147
01:02:38,104 --> 01:02:39,688
(KEYBOARD CLACKING)
1148
01:02:40,391 --> 01:02:43,396
Once the information started flowing in,
1149
01:02:43,479 --> 01:02:46,104
you gotta go where it takes you.
1150
01:02:47,438 --> 01:02:50,021
I write up my report
and I contact MacGillivary,
1151
01:02:50,104 --> 01:02:51,771
the primary investigator,
1152
01:02:52,004 --> 01:02:55,771
to take this information
and try to corroborate it.
1153
01:03:01,386 --> 01:03:05,187
DET. MACGILLIVARY: Progress report,
Lee homicide investigation,
1154
01:03:05,271 --> 01:03:07,813
Detective Gregory S. MacGillivary.
1155
01:03:08,488 --> 01:03:12,175
On February 26th, along with
Detective William F. Ritz,
1156
01:03:12,277 --> 01:03:14,730
I interviewed one Adnan Syed
1157
01:03:14,813 --> 01:03:17,855
at the family home
in the presence of his father.
1158
01:03:18,061 --> 01:03:20,342
When asked if Syed had
a relationship with Lee,
1159
01:03:20,397 --> 01:03:23,604
Syed replied in a soft voice, yes.
1160
01:03:23,688 --> 01:03:26,938
However, he didn't want
his father to know.
1161
01:03:27,021 --> 01:03:29,097
ADNAN (OVER PHONE): The only
thing I was concerned about was
1162
01:03:29,130 --> 01:03:31,563
just not meeting in front
of my mom and dad.
1163
01:03:31,646 --> 01:03:33,363
And they were asking me
questions, but they were
1164
01:03:33,396 --> 01:03:35,747
just like pretty general
and vague questions.
1165
01:03:36,106 --> 01:03:40,104
MACGILLIVARY: On January 13th, he had
occasion to be at Woodlawn High School,
1166
01:03:40,218 --> 01:03:42,135
however, doesn't remember the events
1167
01:03:42,187 --> 01:03:44,083
that occurred in school that day.
1168
01:03:45,567 --> 01:03:46,683
ADNAN (OVER PHONE):
If you didn't do anything,
1169
01:03:46,716 --> 01:03:48,321
then what is there
to worry about in a sense?
1170
01:03:48,354 --> 01:03:50,954
I don't have to account for anything
because I didn't do anything.
1171
01:03:52,187 --> 01:03:55,190
MACGILLIVARY: Syed indicated that
he had occasions to be a passenger
1172
01:03:55,224 --> 01:03:59,458
in the victim's auto, however,
not on the date in question.
1173
01:04:01,938 --> 01:04:03,947
ADNAN (OVER PHONE): I know there's
things that don't look good for me,
1174
01:04:03,980 --> 01:04:06,036
you know, and this is one of them, but
1175
01:04:06,122 --> 01:04:09,224
to be honest, I have no idea
how to explain that then.
1176
01:04:10,216 --> 01:04:13,021
MACGILLIVARY: A formal interview will
be conducted in the near future,
1177
01:04:13,104 --> 01:04:15,521
- investigation to continue.
- (TAPE RECORDER CLICKS)
1178
01:04:17,229 --> 01:04:18,822
TANVEER: That night I
remember my parents
1179
01:04:18,855 --> 01:04:20,563
were yelling at my brother like,
1180
01:04:20,645 --> 01:04:22,566
well, if you didn't date that girl
we wouldn't have this problem.
1181
01:04:22,599 --> 01:04:24,929
You know, I was like, Adnan, you know,
1182
01:04:24,963 --> 01:04:27,674
if you have anything to do with
this, you need to get an attorney.
1183
01:04:27,768 --> 01:04:30,039
He was just so lax, like,
okay, you know,
1184
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in this justice system, you are
innocent until proven guilty.
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ADNAN (OVER PHONE): I tend to
look back on these things,
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01:04:36,312 --> 01:04:37,855
and they have a little more meaning
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01:04:37,938 --> 01:04:39,620
than they did back then, right?
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01:04:40,526 --> 01:04:42,312
I wish I knew what I knew back then,
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it's like I would've taken
it way more seriously.
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01:04:44,643 --> 01:04:46,604
Like, I have to account
for what I was doing.
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01:04:46,688 --> 01:04:48,688
I have to be prepared.
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01:04:48,771 --> 01:04:51,146
Never in a million years
would I have imagined
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01:04:51,236 --> 01:04:53,480
that I would be charged
with Hae's murder.
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01:04:58,689 --> 01:05:00,065
(POLICE RADIO CHATTER)
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TANVEER: In the morning,
you know, I woke up
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to these people talking in the hallway,
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and it was a police officer
standing in my doorway.
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- (SIREN BLARES)
- SHAMIM: My older son, he woke up
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and he tried to get up,
so he push him back.
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01:05:11,271 --> 01:05:13,771
He said, no, you go back,
because he was afraid, you know,
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01:05:13,855 --> 01:05:15,062
he was going to see him
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01:05:15,146 --> 01:05:17,146
handcuffing his brother and take him.
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01:05:17,229 --> 01:05:18,896
SYED: Unbelievable.
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01:05:19,744 --> 01:05:24,312
When a son has never given
you a problem in 17 years,
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01:05:24,533 --> 01:05:26,146
and all of a sudden,
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01:05:26,799 --> 01:05:30,896
he's being told that he has
done such a wrong thing.
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01:05:31,783 --> 01:05:33,530
ADNAN (OVER PHONE): They put me
in the back of a police car.
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01:05:33,563 --> 01:05:36,052
I said, ma'am, can I ask you
what this is all about?
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01:05:36,086 --> 01:05:38,382
And she said, they'll tell
you down at the station.
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01:05:39,984 --> 01:05:41,576
NEWSWOMAN: Eyewitness
news was there tonight
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01:05:41,609 --> 01:05:44,354
when family members first found
out about the teen's arrest,
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an arrest that Lee's family says
brings them much-needed peace.
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01:05:52,597 --> 01:05:54,479
RABIA: I remember the
exact picture that I saw.
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01:05:54,563 --> 01:05:56,957
It's his black and white picture and
he has a little bit of a mustache.
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01:05:56,990 --> 01:05:58,691
And you can't even absorb
this 'cause I'm just...
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01:05:58,724 --> 01:06:02,896
I'm seeing arrest, murder, Adnan Syed.
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01:06:02,980 --> 01:06:05,024
He's a sensitive guy. He's gentle.
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He has no kind of delinquency record.
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He's not violent. He's just a kid.
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He's a baby.
He's like my little brother.
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01:06:11,526 --> 01:06:13,113
ADNAN (OVER PHONE): When I
got to the police station,
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they put me in like a little room.
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01:06:16,410 --> 01:06:18,914
I sat there for a while.
It could've been five minutes,
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01:06:18,948 --> 01:06:20,917
it could've been five hours.
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01:06:21,323 --> 01:06:24,521
The two detectives came in,
Ritz and MacGillivary.
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01:06:24,604 --> 01:06:26,396
They said, you know why you're here.
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01:06:26,479 --> 01:06:28,146
You're being charged with Hae's murder.
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01:06:29,142 --> 01:06:31,538
At some point,
they mentioned Jay's name,
1229
01:06:31,572 --> 01:06:34,062
like Jay told us or Jay's going to say
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01:06:34,146 --> 01:06:35,813
that you did this or did that.
1231
01:06:35,896 --> 01:06:38,166
And I was just thinking, Jay? Jay who?
1232
01:06:38,235 --> 01:06:39,931
The only Jay I know is Jay Wilds.
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01:06:39,986 --> 01:06:41,791
What does that have to do with anything?
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01:06:42,564 --> 01:06:44,655
I was thinking, like, the
charges would just be dropped,
1235
01:06:44,688 --> 01:06:46,525
like this is some huge mistake.
1236
01:06:46,611 --> 01:06:49,439
Like, how am I going to explain
this on my college application?
1237
01:06:50,330 --> 01:06:51,866
Do people at school believe this?
1238
01:06:51,900 --> 01:06:54,025
Like, it's going to be so weird.
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01:06:54,896 --> 01:06:57,845
LAURA: When they arrested
him, it felt like
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01:06:57,970 --> 01:06:59,650
they gotta have the wrong guy.
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01:07:00,430 --> 01:07:04,009
When you hear, like, he strangled her,
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01:07:04,681 --> 01:07:05,975
if he did what he did,
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01:07:06,009 --> 01:07:08,730
then who's the person that
I saw everyday in class?
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01:07:10,311 --> 01:07:12,680
ADNAN (OVER PHONE): Finding out
that Hae died, it was like
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01:07:12,714 --> 01:07:14,855
an unstoppableforce of,
like, sadness and grief.
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01:07:14,945 --> 01:07:17,160
But then to be arrested for it?
1247
01:07:18,104 --> 01:07:20,813
It's almost like there's
a flood outside your house,
1248
01:07:20,896 --> 01:07:22,626
before you can even
come to terms with that,
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01:07:22,660 --> 01:07:24,730
now there's a fire inside your house.
1250
01:07:25,816 --> 01:07:28,563
You don't really have time to
come to terms with anything.
1251
01:07:28,646 --> 01:07:30,521
You're just trying to survive.
1252
01:07:34,396 --> 01:07:36,688
NEWSWOMAN: Convicted murderer Adnan Syed
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01:07:36,771 --> 01:07:39,896
is getting a second chance
to prove his innocence.
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01:07:40,855 --> 01:07:42,396
NEWSMAN: Syed won a motion to appeal
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01:07:42,479 --> 01:07:44,396
and present new evidence
to fight his case.
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01:07:45,730 --> 01:07:47,890
NEWSWOMAN: The hearing is
scheduled to last three days.
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01:07:47,938 --> 01:07:50,354
It will determine
whether Syed's conviction
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01:07:50,438 --> 01:07:53,771
will be overturned or if
the case will be retried.
1259
01:07:59,646 --> 01:08:02,206
- YUSUF: Man, Rabia I feel very excited.
- RABIA: You feel good?
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01:08:02,271 --> 01:08:04,730
SHAMIM: Can you believe, I
mean, three days will decide
1261
01:08:04,813 --> 01:08:07,271
if Adnan going to come home or stay.
1262
01:08:08,771 --> 01:08:11,271
How important it is, you know.
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01:08:12,312 --> 01:08:14,521
YUSUF: Yeah, but, inshallah,
he's coming home.
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01:08:14,604 --> 01:08:16,813
I don't know. I just
feel it in my heart.
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01:08:20,354 --> 01:08:23,563
NEWSMAN: Syed's bid to be retried
hinges on two arguments:
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01:08:23,653 --> 01:08:27,212
that his attorney failed to use
alibi witness Asia McClain,
1267
01:08:27,267 --> 01:08:29,447
who said she was with Syed
the day of the murder,
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01:08:29,533 --> 01:08:31,376
and that a cell phone expert, who helped
1269
01:08:31,410 --> 01:08:33,345
place Syed's phone where Lee was buried,
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01:08:33,396 --> 01:08:36,727
now says his findings
were based on unreliable data.
1271
01:08:37,532 --> 01:08:40,479
Anyone can critique what you did,
1272
01:08:40,563 --> 01:08:42,604
but we were working in real time.
1273
01:08:43,415 --> 01:08:46,028
You may not have dotted all the I's,
1274
01:08:46,104 --> 01:08:49,396
but arrest, the bar is not as high.
1275
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:54,029
We're looking for 51 percent for arrest,
1276
01:08:55,646 --> 01:08:58,146
and a hundred percent for conviction.
1277
01:09:07,604 --> 01:09:09,813
("GREAT WAVES" BY DIRTY THREE PLAYING)
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♪ Last boat, stand in a river ♪
1279
01:09:30,271 --> 01:09:35,438
♪ Muddy river, how I love her ♪
1280
01:09:35,528 --> 01:09:40,611
♪ Hawk flying is fooling his folly ♪
1281
01:09:40,688 --> 01:09:46,021
♪ Gas hurricanes spray over Heaven ♪
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01:09:49,062 --> 01:09:51,438
♪ Weeping willow... ♪
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