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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,041 --> 00:00:17,923 (FOOTSTEPS ECHOING) 2 00:00:48,354 --> 00:00:52,146 HAE MIN LEE: This book is open to those whose heart is innocent. 3 00:00:52,229 --> 00:00:53,479 (WIND HOWLING) 4 00:00:53,563 --> 00:00:57,646 If you feel any guilt reading this, you should stop. 5 00:00:59,396 --> 00:01:02,271 This book is full of my expression. 6 00:01:03,479 --> 00:01:05,646 This may make you angry, 7 00:01:05,730 --> 00:01:09,312 happy, mad, or cry, 8 00:01:09,396 --> 00:01:11,604 so do enter at your own risk. 9 00:01:12,855 --> 00:01:16,563 Dedicated to those who I love and love me back. 10 00:01:16,646 --> 00:01:19,229 Do love and remember me forever, 11 00:01:19,359 --> 00:01:21,640 since I'll always love you all. 12 00:01:26,438 --> 00:01:30,479 NEWSMAN: Eighteen-year-old Hae Min Lee disappeared on January 13th 13 00:01:30,563 --> 00:01:32,396 after leaving Woodlawn High School. 14 00:01:32,479 --> 00:01:35,813 On February 9th police found her half-buried body 15 00:01:35,896 --> 00:01:37,855 in Baltimore's Leakin Park. 16 00:01:37,938 --> 00:01:39,938 She had been strangled. 17 00:01:42,479 --> 00:01:46,312 NEWSMAN 2: ...key details they had withheld as they sought a suspect. 18 00:01:46,396 --> 00:01:49,396 They now have one in custody. 19 00:01:49,479 --> 00:01:52,104 The police suggest the suspect had a motive 20 00:01:52,187 --> 00:01:56,813 in the form of a fatal attraction to his victim. 21 00:01:56,896 --> 00:02:00,438 NEWSMAN 3: The subject is identified as Adnan Masud Syed, 22 00:02:00,638 --> 00:02:03,354 17 and a former football player who is described 23 00:02:03,438 --> 00:02:06,604 as an A student, friendly to everyone. 24 00:02:08,980 --> 00:02:11,563 NEWSMAN 1: News of Syed's arrest is met with disbelief 25 00:02:11,646 --> 00:02:14,271 by the community in Woodlawn. 26 00:02:15,563 --> 00:02:18,604 They can't believe the boy who had so much promise 27 00:02:18,766 --> 00:02:20,758 now faces a murder rap. 28 00:02:25,015 --> 00:02:28,562 Synced & corrected by reggielist www.addic7ed.com 29 00:02:37,285 --> 00:02:40,535 - (BABY CRYING) - (DISTANT DOG BARKING) 30 00:02:41,813 --> 00:02:43,563 (VOICES CHATTERING) 31 00:02:43,646 --> 00:02:46,229 (CRYING CONTINUES) 32 00:02:47,438 --> 00:02:49,700 SHAMIM RAHMAN: Baby Sidney. Yusuf? 33 00:02:52,450 --> 00:02:55,646 - (BABY CRYING) - I'm here. 34 00:02:55,730 --> 00:02:57,771 (CHUCKLES) What happened to you? 35 00:02:57,855 --> 00:02:59,938 - (CRYING CONTINUES) - YUSUF: Sydney. 36 00:03:00,021 --> 00:03:02,312 - (GIGGLES) - (CHUCKLES) 37 00:03:02,396 --> 00:03:04,438 Sydney! Hi. 38 00:03:07,456 --> 00:03:09,209 Come, on Leda. Where's your blankie? 39 00:03:12,938 --> 00:03:14,938 - Here. - Benjamin. 40 00:03:15,813 --> 00:03:18,354 Okay. Eunice, you all right? 41 00:03:18,583 --> 00:03:20,813 You're all right, okay? Come on. 42 00:03:20,896 --> 00:03:23,896 Want to sit with me? Come on, you can sit. 43 00:03:24,778 --> 00:03:26,319 She's shy. 44 00:03:30,104 --> 00:03:32,062 Yeah, he used to help me, too. 45 00:03:32,146 --> 00:03:33,934 - WOMAN: He used to help you? - Yeah. 46 00:03:46,924 --> 00:03:48,466 I'm sorry. 47 00:03:52,438 --> 00:03:54,187 YUSUF: When Adnan went to prison, 48 00:03:54,271 --> 00:03:55,730 it was like a big piece 49 00:03:55,813 --> 00:03:57,750 of all of us had died. 50 00:04:00,604 --> 00:04:03,104 We thought he was gone forever. 51 00:04:04,396 --> 00:04:08,521 But then Rabia, while she was in law school 52 00:04:08,604 --> 00:04:10,479 and while she was raising two daughters, 53 00:04:10,563 --> 00:04:14,035 she was always there for us and she was still fighting for Adnan. 54 00:04:16,340 --> 00:04:20,354 Adnan would've been forgotten by everyone if it wasn't for Rabia. 55 00:04:22,826 --> 00:04:24,196 RABIA: It doesn't look like a baby's room yet. 56 00:04:24,229 --> 00:04:27,052 Nothing's in here... (CHUCKLES) because we painted. 57 00:04:27,123 --> 00:04:29,062 But this will be the nursery. 58 00:04:29,146 --> 00:04:31,271 I've got a couple of weeks to get it set up. 59 00:04:32,668 --> 00:04:34,754 When Adnan was incarcerated, 60 00:04:35,278 --> 00:04:39,160 My older daughter... In '99, how old was she? 61 00:04:39,596 --> 00:04:41,178 She was only two. 62 00:04:41,396 --> 00:04:42,938 This will be my third baby, 63 00:04:43,021 --> 00:04:46,646 and I hope that this baby will get to know Adnan uncle 64 00:04:46,730 --> 00:04:48,604 in a normal environment. 65 00:04:56,396 --> 00:04:59,836 These are some of the most important documents related to Adnan's case, 66 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,904 and they're the ones that I've been carrying around with me 67 00:05:01,937 --> 00:05:05,544 'cause I can't keep all of his 15 boxes of files with me. 68 00:05:11,229 --> 00:05:13,688 This is a flier that I made at home 69 00:05:13,778 --> 00:05:16,736 when we were raising money for Adnan's second appeal. 70 00:05:24,299 --> 00:05:26,021 ( SERIAL PODCAST THEME MUSIC PLAYS) 71 00:05:26,104 --> 00:05:27,530 For years I've been saying to Adnan, 72 00:05:27,563 --> 00:05:29,530 we should go to media, we should go to journalists, 73 00:05:29,563 --> 00:05:32,271 because they can do things we can't do. 74 00:05:32,576 --> 00:05:36,959 I went to my laptop and I started looking for a reporter who had 75 00:05:36,998 --> 00:05:39,980 covered the case in 1999 for the Baltimore Sun. 76 00:05:40,959 --> 00:05:43,354 And the first name I came across was Sarah Koenig. 77 00:05:43,771 --> 00:05:45,583 She was a producer at NPR, and I thought, 78 00:05:45,617 --> 00:05:48,786 okay, well, she's not in Baltimore anymore, but maybe this will work. 79 00:05:49,244 --> 00:05:52,077 SARAH KOENIG: I went to go see Rabia. She was surrounded by paper; 80 00:05:52,450 --> 00:05:55,771 Files, loose stacks, binders, some crappy-looking boxes, 81 00:05:56,136 --> 00:05:59,563 all court documents and attorneys' files from Adnan's case. 82 00:05:59,646 --> 00:06:02,479 I didn't even know what a podcast was. Nobody realized... 83 00:06:02,563 --> 00:06:06,222 Even Sarah Koenig herself, I didn't think, went into this 84 00:06:06,269 --> 00:06:09,313 um, thinking I'm going to do like 10, 12 episodes on this, 85 00:06:09,367 --> 00:06:11,180 or it's going to turn into anything big. 86 00:06:11,604 --> 00:06:14,604 NEWSWOMAN: Adnan Syed's story has captivated millions 87 00:06:14,688 --> 00:06:17,891 since the 2014 launch of the podcast Serial. 88 00:06:17,992 --> 00:06:21,938 JULIANA GOLDMAN: The podcast was downloaded more than 100 million times. 89 00:06:22,222 --> 00:06:25,604 NEWSMAN: Turning the Syed case into a global sensation. 90 00:06:25,847 --> 00:06:27,738 RABIA: It spun out of control very, very quickly. 91 00:06:27,771 --> 00:06:30,438 It just became a pop culture phenomenon. 92 00:06:30,521 --> 00:06:33,312 Please welcome Sarah Koenig! 93 00:06:33,396 --> 00:06:37,855 You are the world's first superstar podcaster. 94 00:06:38,079 --> 00:06:41,521 Colbert Report, Saturday Night Live, it was everywhere. 95 00:06:41,899 --> 00:06:44,855 And I'm so honored and pleased to get to present 96 00:06:44,938 --> 00:06:47,563 this award to Serial and Sarah Koenig. 97 00:06:48,271 --> 00:06:53,271 We did not expect Serial to get very much attention at all. 98 00:06:53,354 --> 00:06:56,730 It's a ten-hour audio documentary 99 00:06:56,813 --> 00:07:00,361 about an old murder that I did not solve. 100 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:02,936 I personally went back and forth. 101 00:07:03,014 --> 00:07:04,354 Did he do it? Did he not? 102 00:07:04,438 --> 00:07:06,021 I think Adnan probably did it, 103 00:07:06,272 --> 00:07:08,881 but this case reeks of reasonable doubt. 104 00:07:09,217 --> 00:07:12,756 RABIA: Serial turned everything into a point of investigation. 105 00:07:12,951 --> 00:07:15,959 NEWSWOMAN: Turning listeners into armchair detectives. 106 00:07:16,631 --> 00:07:19,173 NEWSMAN: There are lengthy discussion groups on the website Reddit, 107 00:07:19,206 --> 00:07:20,855 conspiracy theories are floated. 108 00:07:21,269 --> 00:07:25,394 Do you buy the cops are trying to frame Syed angle? 109 00:07:25,980 --> 00:07:29,644 Serial is what brought obsessed people on Reddit to the case, 110 00:07:29,784 --> 00:07:31,904 who brought new evidence to the case. 111 00:07:31,980 --> 00:07:33,980 JUDY WOODRUFF: An appeal is now forthcoming, 112 00:07:34,062 --> 00:07:36,980 one that could lead to a new trial, a plea deal, 113 00:07:37,062 --> 00:07:40,507 or perhaps a decision by the State to drop it entirely. 114 00:07:58,938 --> 00:08:02,104 RABIA: Serial was the first time that I was able to see 115 00:08:02,187 --> 00:08:04,531 the case from the perspective of other people. 116 00:08:05,328 --> 00:08:07,771 What I realized then was that Serial, at least, 117 00:08:07,855 --> 00:08:11,396 was not going to be a story that was going to exonerate him, 118 00:08:11,479 --> 00:08:14,271 and that in the absence of a real smoking gun, 119 00:08:14,354 --> 00:08:16,855 evidence of his innocence or someone else's guilt, 120 00:08:16,938 --> 00:08:19,896 that this ambiguity would always haunt us. 121 00:08:33,688 --> 00:08:37,062 BAILIFF: State of Maryland vs. Adnan Syed. 122 00:08:40,813 --> 00:08:42,479 Mr. Urick, I know you have preparation, 123 00:08:42,563 --> 00:08:45,438 but if we're gonna get this through sometime this year, 124 00:08:45,521 --> 00:08:47,521 we've gotta be prepared to start quickly, okay? 125 00:08:47,603 --> 00:08:49,884 - Please call your first witness. - Thank you, Your Honor. 126 00:08:49,938 --> 00:08:52,906 KATHLEEN MURPHY: At this time the state will call Mr. Young Lee. 127 00:08:56,234 --> 00:08:58,184 Good afternoon, Mr. Lee. 128 00:08:58,570 --> 00:09:01,575 What, if anything, happened in January of 1999 129 00:09:01,938 --> 00:09:03,521 regarding your sister? 130 00:09:03,604 --> 00:09:05,646 Um, she was missing. 131 00:09:06,049 --> 00:09:09,120 I'm going to ask you to remember back to January the 13th. 132 00:09:11,730 --> 00:09:13,896 Do you remember what happened that day? 133 00:09:13,980 --> 00:09:15,479 YOUNG LEE: Yes. I do, um, 134 00:09:15,831 --> 00:09:18,521 at first we knew something was wrong 135 00:09:18,604 --> 00:09:21,354 when we got a call from my cousin's teacher 136 00:09:21,438 --> 00:09:24,272 asking us to pick her up from the school. 137 00:09:26,604 --> 00:09:29,616 This was strange because it was my sister's job. 138 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,238 MURPHY: Do you know about what time you received the phone call 139 00:09:33,271 --> 00:09:35,546 that Hae had not picked up your cousins? 140 00:09:36,116 --> 00:09:39,530 - YOUNG LEE: Around 3:30. - What, if anything, happened next? 141 00:09:40,104 --> 00:09:42,646 I called my sister's workplace, 142 00:09:42,730 --> 00:09:46,730 her best friend, Aisha, and I called the school. 143 00:09:48,187 --> 00:09:50,838 AISHA PITTMAN: Her brother called to tell me, 144 00:09:50,872 --> 00:09:54,092 and the immediate thing I did after that was page her 145 00:09:54,146 --> 00:09:56,062 and then continue paging her, 146 00:09:56,154 --> 00:09:59,163 just worrying but not knowing what to do. 147 00:10:01,062 --> 00:10:03,980 KRISTA MEYERS: I can remember what she was wearing 148 00:10:04,058 --> 00:10:06,062 and hearing her speak, 149 00:10:06,146 --> 00:10:08,417 because that was the last time I would hear her talk. 150 00:10:08,813 --> 00:10:10,822 And, you know, she was... I can remember she was wearing 151 00:10:10,855 --> 00:10:14,354 like a gray or black plaid, um, skirt... 152 00:10:15,688 --> 00:10:17,371 and a white sweater. 153 00:10:18,730 --> 00:10:20,312 And that just, like, stuck with me, 154 00:10:20,396 --> 00:10:22,271 because she always dressed up. 155 00:10:22,354 --> 00:10:24,113 DEBBIE WARREN: I can actually still in my mind see it 156 00:10:24,146 --> 00:10:26,938 'cause I have a photographic memory and that has never left my mind. 157 00:10:27,021 --> 00:10:29,896 I remember seeing her exactly where I saw her. 158 00:10:29,980 --> 00:10:31,938 I can see that staircase. 159 00:10:33,062 --> 00:10:34,855 I still see her there. 160 00:10:36,271 --> 00:10:39,771 After a while my mom was real worried 161 00:10:39,855 --> 00:10:41,855 and asked me to call the police. 162 00:10:43,396 --> 00:10:46,062 OFFICER: On my arrival, I spoke to the victim's brother, 163 00:10:46,146 --> 00:10:49,416 and he advised me that his sister had not returned home. 164 00:10:51,604 --> 00:10:54,104 YOUNG LEE: My grandmother brought down the diary 165 00:10:54,187 --> 00:10:56,244 that my sister writes in. 166 00:10:57,855 --> 00:11:01,057 Then I found the phone number, then I called that number. 167 00:11:02,021 --> 00:11:03,781 MURPHY: Who did you believe you were calling? 168 00:11:04,244 --> 00:11:08,855 I believe I was calling Don, my sister's new boyfriend. 169 00:11:08,945 --> 00:11:10,903 What happened when you called the number? 170 00:11:10,980 --> 00:11:13,021 I ask, may I speak to Don? 171 00:11:13,104 --> 00:11:17,855 But after speaking to the person, the receiver, 172 00:11:17,938 --> 00:11:19,406 I knew it was Adnan. 173 00:11:19,820 --> 00:11:23,187 - Who is Adnan? - Um, him, right there. 174 00:11:23,271 --> 00:11:25,187 (PHONE RINGING) 175 00:11:27,297 --> 00:11:29,906 ADNAN: The day she went missing was just a normal day to me. 176 00:11:31,398 --> 00:11:34,521 I think I had told her that day, I was going to go get my cell phone. 177 00:11:34,604 --> 00:11:37,062 So I... I called her the night before, 178 00:11:37,146 --> 00:11:39,438 and I think she wrote the number down in her diary. 179 00:11:43,383 --> 00:11:45,271 I've never talked to a police officer before. 180 00:11:45,750 --> 00:11:47,190 And when he called me, I was like... 181 00:11:47,227 --> 00:11:50,604 I was literally high on marijuana and there's a cop calling me. 182 00:11:52,229 --> 00:11:54,062 So when he asked me about Hae, 183 00:11:54,146 --> 00:11:55,563 I just remember kind of like, hey, 184 00:11:55,646 --> 00:11:58,187 did I ask Hae for a ride that day? 185 00:11:59,271 --> 00:12:02,021 I spoke to, uh, Mr. Syed, 186 00:12:02,104 --> 00:12:04,104 and he advised me that, uh, 187 00:12:04,187 --> 00:12:06,938 he was supposed to get a ride home from the victim, 188 00:12:07,029 --> 00:12:08,988 but he got detained at school and 189 00:12:09,349 --> 00:12:12,021 felt that she just got tired of waiting and left. 190 00:12:12,104 --> 00:12:13,947 He asked if a police report was going to be made 191 00:12:13,980 --> 00:12:16,479 'cause I had told him the circumstances why I was calling him. 192 00:12:16,563 --> 00:12:18,488 KEVIN URICK: What did you tell him, if you remember? 193 00:12:18,521 --> 00:12:20,886 I told him yes, a police report's going to be made. 194 00:12:22,521 --> 00:12:24,947 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): Now I'm thinking, Hae's mom's gonna kill her now 195 00:12:24,980 --> 00:12:27,604 when she gets home because now the police are involved, 196 00:12:27,688 --> 00:12:30,343 and no way am I thinking something bad happened to her. 197 00:12:32,271 --> 00:12:34,855 AISHA: I did go to bed worried, but at the same time I was like, 198 00:12:34,938 --> 00:12:37,855 well, maybe, like, she doesn't have her pager on 199 00:12:37,938 --> 00:12:39,396 or, like, she left it in her car. 200 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,569 Maybe she's with this new boyfriend and not responding. 201 00:12:43,229 --> 00:12:45,855 There's a number of places that she could be. 202 00:12:51,646 --> 00:12:54,521 MURPHY: Mr. Lee, after January the 13th 203 00:12:54,604 --> 00:12:56,312 did you ever see your sister again? 204 00:12:56,396 --> 00:12:57,563 No, I didn't. 205 00:12:57,646 --> 00:12:59,638 Did you ever learn of her whereabouts? 206 00:12:59,817 --> 00:13:01,583 Uh, no. 207 00:13:03,229 --> 00:13:05,354 (POLICE SIRENS BLARING) 208 00:13:07,271 --> 00:13:09,536 SAAD CHAUDRY: You don't go in all areas in Baltimore. 209 00:13:11,903 --> 00:13:13,655 SAAD CHAUDRY: There's a few areas you stay in, 210 00:13:13,688 --> 00:13:15,396 and there's some areas, if you don't need 211 00:13:15,479 --> 00:13:17,604 to go into that area, you don't. 212 00:13:19,396 --> 00:13:20,822 TANVEER SYED: When I was growing up, 213 00:13:20,855 --> 00:13:22,771 some people would, like, use fake addresses 214 00:13:22,855 --> 00:13:26,521 to get out of the city schools and come in to Woodlawn. 215 00:13:29,675 --> 00:13:31,318 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): It's a world of difference 216 00:13:31,351 --> 00:13:33,938 between Baltimore County and Baltimore City. 217 00:13:34,021 --> 00:13:36,104 Literally, it's a world of difference. 218 00:13:36,187 --> 00:13:38,479 (POLICE SIRENS BLARING) 219 00:13:40,854 --> 00:13:42,488 HOPE SCHAB: It's better than when we lived in Baltimore, 220 00:13:42,521 --> 00:13:45,021 it'd be two o'clock, three o'clock... pow-pow-pop-pop. 221 00:13:46,354 --> 00:13:48,646 The numbers of deaths have reached 222 00:13:48,730 --> 00:13:50,980 over 300 in certain years. 223 00:13:51,062 --> 00:13:55,354 Um, unfortunately, having taught almost 20 years, 224 00:13:55,438 --> 00:13:59,396 I've had probably, I don't know, four or five students 225 00:13:59,479 --> 00:14:03,271 who have died during that time, 226 00:14:03,362 --> 00:14:05,104 Hae being one of them. 227 00:14:07,813 --> 00:14:10,896 HOPE: Hae was my intern. She would come in at 7:15 every morning 228 00:14:10,980 --> 00:14:13,673 and stay for an hour and a half. 229 00:14:14,697 --> 00:14:16,521 She would bring her coffee in 230 00:14:16,604 --> 00:14:20,688 and do work on the computer for me or help me grade my papers. 231 00:14:21,228 --> 00:14:23,271 She was like a daughter to me. 232 00:14:24,305 --> 00:14:26,070 She always had some cute little outfit on. 233 00:14:26,104 --> 00:14:29,229 And her hair was long and shiny and beautiful. 234 00:14:29,312 --> 00:14:30,980 She liked fashion. 235 00:14:31,062 --> 00:14:33,354 She definitely liked to draw and maybe that's the way 236 00:14:33,438 --> 00:14:37,229 she set her mind aside from all the troubles that were going on. 237 00:14:39,940 --> 00:14:41,487 At the Museum of Art 238 00:14:41,526 --> 00:14:44,354 there was a Claude Monet exhibit. 239 00:14:44,438 --> 00:14:48,730 We took the French kids to get a little culture. 240 00:14:52,688 --> 00:14:54,771 HAE: April 1st, 1998. 241 00:14:55,539 --> 00:14:58,855 I got this today, at Monet exhibit, from the French field trip. 242 00:14:58,938 --> 00:15:01,271 I thought it would be cool to write stuff in here 243 00:15:01,354 --> 00:15:02,563 about my life. 244 00:15:02,646 --> 00:15:05,479 So I guess I would just start with my life so far. 245 00:15:05,563 --> 00:15:09,646 Why? Because my life won't be considered typical to most. 246 00:15:09,730 --> 00:15:11,855 (SCHOOL BELL RINGS) 247 00:15:15,980 --> 00:15:18,646 KRISTA: Woodlawn High School was kind of a hodgepodge 248 00:15:18,730 --> 00:15:23,021 of all different ethnicities, all different backgrounds, 249 00:15:23,112 --> 00:15:25,070 especially when it came to the "Magnet" program 250 00:15:25,146 --> 00:15:28,062 because we were students from all over Baltimore County. 251 00:15:28,146 --> 00:15:30,771 DEBBIE: We had our own curriculum, it was a lot more rigorous. 252 00:15:30,855 --> 00:15:32,896 We were doing college-level work. 253 00:15:32,980 --> 00:15:34,855 That included Hae. 254 00:15:34,938 --> 00:15:36,938 I don't even remember exactly how we met. 255 00:15:37,021 --> 00:15:39,855 It just feels like I, you know, always knew her in high school, 256 00:15:39,938 --> 00:15:42,146 but it was probably in French class. 257 00:15:42,476 --> 00:15:45,730 HOPE: Her best friends were Debbie Warren and Aisha Pittman. 258 00:15:46,265 --> 00:15:50,521 Debbie was more of the straightlaced and follow the rules. 259 00:15:50,604 --> 00:15:52,363 Aisha was a great student as well, but I think 260 00:15:52,396 --> 00:15:55,813 she would be more of the one to break off and cut class. 261 00:15:55,896 --> 00:15:58,521 But I don't think she'd be caught 'cause she was too smart. 262 00:15:58,604 --> 00:16:01,855 We all cut classes, and it wasn't just the two of us. 263 00:16:02,116 --> 00:16:05,092 Pretty much everyone in the "Magnet" program did, 264 00:16:05,147 --> 00:16:06,616 and they just let us. 265 00:16:06,655 --> 00:16:08,491 Like, we were the "good kids" of school. 266 00:16:08,623 --> 00:16:10,370 NEWSMAN: How about any school activities while you are here? 267 00:16:10,403 --> 00:16:12,486 Um, I played field hockey for two years, 268 00:16:12,563 --> 00:16:14,187 I've played lacrosse for two years, 269 00:16:14,271 --> 00:16:15,688 and I also manage boys wrestling. 270 00:16:15,771 --> 00:16:16,992 - Hmm, that's a lot to do. - Yeah. 271 00:16:17,025 --> 00:16:19,321 Do you have time to, um, have a job while you're doing this? 272 00:16:19,354 --> 00:16:22,921 Yeah, I try to manage my school work and my after-school work. 273 00:16:23,896 --> 00:16:26,104 AISHA: Me and Hae played field hockey together. 274 00:16:26,187 --> 00:16:28,396 That's when we became friends. 275 00:16:28,479 --> 00:16:30,563 Both of us were fans of sports 276 00:16:30,646 --> 00:16:32,563 but didn't really ever pay attention to them. 277 00:16:32,646 --> 00:16:35,688 So, like, she was a fan of the Dallas Cowboys, 278 00:16:35,771 --> 00:16:38,980 but probably rarely watched an actual football game. 279 00:16:39,062 --> 00:16:42,104 She liked the blue and silver. 280 00:16:42,187 --> 00:16:44,646 KRISTA: She was just so light and bubbly, 281 00:16:44,730 --> 00:16:47,380 and it was really hard to be in a bad mood around her. 282 00:16:47,419 --> 00:16:49,271 But if I had to break it down to one word, 283 00:16:49,354 --> 00:16:51,903 I'd say goofy is the best one. 284 00:16:52,302 --> 00:16:55,813 AISHA: Whatever she was into, she was very into. 285 00:16:55,896 --> 00:16:59,271 If it was her relationship, like, she would talk about it 286 00:16:59,354 --> 00:17:02,229 in such glowing, flowery terms, 287 00:17:02,312 --> 00:17:05,159 or playing field hockey or lacrosse 288 00:17:05,193 --> 00:17:07,052 when we'd come off in the huddles. 289 00:17:08,021 --> 00:17:10,229 HAE: April 30th, 1998. 290 00:17:10,312 --> 00:17:13,646 I have to write right now, so I can tell about the game. 291 00:17:13,730 --> 00:17:14,980 We won! 292 00:17:15,062 --> 00:17:16,813 Dundalk was burning with rage. 293 00:17:17,561 --> 00:17:20,646 I scored three at the beginning and Isha scored two. 294 00:17:20,730 --> 00:17:22,561 What a great way to end the season. 295 00:17:23,771 --> 00:17:26,062 LAURA ESTRADA SANDOVAL: I played soccer, and the lacrosse 296 00:17:26,146 --> 00:17:28,026 and soccer locker rooms were next to each other. 297 00:17:28,062 --> 00:17:29,896 So then that's how I would see Hae, 298 00:17:29,980 --> 00:17:32,021 and we'd always cheer each other on. 299 00:17:32,104 --> 00:17:34,702 But I was definitely always closer to Adnan. 300 00:17:35,771 --> 00:17:38,655 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): I was never someone who really studied, like, too hard. 301 00:17:38,688 --> 00:17:40,499 I just really enjoyed going and hanging out, 302 00:17:40,533 --> 00:17:42,438 and, like, I played sports and stuff. 303 00:17:42,521 --> 00:17:44,104 But I was fortunate. I had a bunch of 304 00:17:44,187 --> 00:17:45,882 different friends I would hang out with. 305 00:17:47,104 --> 00:17:49,312 Adnan was tremendously popular 306 00:17:49,396 --> 00:17:52,148 and well-liked and well-adjusted. 307 00:17:52,695 --> 00:17:55,229 AISHA: He was always joking with the teachers about stuff, 308 00:17:55,312 --> 00:17:58,021 just, like, confident in that way. 309 00:17:59,085 --> 00:18:01,029 KRISTA: Because we came from all different communities, 310 00:18:01,062 --> 00:18:04,050 sometimes you went through the cultural differences. 311 00:18:04,136 --> 00:18:08,029 Like with Adnan's family where he wasn't allowed hang out with girls. 312 00:18:08,104 --> 00:18:10,750 I could never just call his house and say, hey, what's up? 313 00:18:10,784 --> 00:18:12,673 If I needed to get a hold of him, I'd have to page him 314 00:18:12,706 --> 00:18:13,938 or call his cell phone. 315 00:18:14,062 --> 00:18:15,956 And a lot of families were like that. 316 00:18:16,472 --> 00:18:17,775 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): You know, because that's just how 317 00:18:17,808 --> 00:18:19,405 immigrant communities are. 318 00:18:19,438 --> 00:18:21,771 I can hang out with my friends until whenever. 319 00:18:21,855 --> 00:18:24,062 My mom, really, she just didn't want us to date. 320 00:18:24,667 --> 00:18:26,730 (LAUGHS) She's like, look, just no girls. 321 00:18:27,308 --> 00:18:28,908 TANVEER: Adnan was always a good student. 322 00:18:28,964 --> 00:18:31,056 And if you ask him why he was always a good student, he's like, 323 00:18:31,089 --> 00:18:32,573 'cause I used to see you getting into so much 324 00:18:32,606 --> 00:18:33,947 trouble for not being a good student. 325 00:18:33,980 --> 00:18:35,782 I didn't want to get in trouble. 326 00:18:36,438 --> 00:18:39,334 We're a close family. You can see old pictures of my parents. 327 00:18:39,368 --> 00:18:42,062 There's my dad in his pinstriped suit and his slicked back hair, 328 00:18:42,146 --> 00:18:43,855 and there's my mom in her bell-bottom jeans 329 00:18:43,938 --> 00:18:45,896 and her floral shirt. 330 00:18:45,980 --> 00:18:48,271 We joked that our baby brother was an accident, 331 00:18:48,354 --> 00:18:50,021 'cause, you know, we were four years apart 332 00:18:50,104 --> 00:18:51,550 and he showed up 12 years later. 333 00:18:52,370 --> 00:18:54,780 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): My mom, she's hilarious. Like, she's a character. 334 00:18:54,813 --> 00:18:57,771 And my dad, he used to do everything to make my mom happy. 335 00:18:57,855 --> 00:19:01,187 All I know is, like, a solid family home. 336 00:19:06,042 --> 00:19:07,738 When I was younger, being religious was more 337 00:19:07,771 --> 00:19:11,104 of like a cultural thing than a religious thing... 338 00:19:11,179 --> 00:19:13,196 like hanging out at the mosque and stuff like that. 339 00:19:13,238 --> 00:19:15,980 You know, kind of like identifying with my people. 340 00:19:17,002 --> 00:19:19,146 TANVEER: But it's a really close-knit community. 341 00:19:19,229 --> 00:19:23,730 The policing in the community was through what we call auntie network. 342 00:19:23,813 --> 00:19:26,321 Like, I remember I was talking in Woodlawn library to some girl, 343 00:19:26,354 --> 00:19:27,655 and she gave me her number or whatever. 344 00:19:27,688 --> 00:19:30,197 And by the time I got home, my mom was like, 345 00:19:30,260 --> 00:19:33,271 "Yeah, so you were talking to some girl at the library." 346 00:19:33,354 --> 00:19:34,438 (CHATTERING) 347 00:19:34,521 --> 00:19:36,187 SAAD: When Adnan and I would hang out, 348 00:19:36,271 --> 00:19:37,730 mostly we'd meet at the mosque, 349 00:19:37,813 --> 00:19:40,405 and then just do little dumb things that teenagers do, 350 00:19:40,444 --> 00:19:43,563 drive around in a car, playing loud music or something. 351 00:19:43,646 --> 00:19:46,229 We both had girlfriends, and we had girlfriends 352 00:19:46,312 --> 00:19:48,104 that were our high school girlfriends. 353 00:19:48,187 --> 00:19:50,745 We weren't able to have them come over to our house and hang out. 354 00:19:50,778 --> 00:19:52,138 (SCHOOL BELL RINGS) 355 00:19:52,172 --> 00:19:54,396 However, we were able to hang out with them in school, 356 00:19:54,479 --> 00:19:58,271 after school, Friday, Saturday, go to the movies and whatnot. 357 00:19:59,015 --> 00:20:01,062 On a Friday night the auntie network, 358 00:20:01,585 --> 00:20:04,563 they'd be chasing their kids around at whatever malls 359 00:20:04,646 --> 00:20:06,569 and busting them. 360 00:20:06,705 --> 00:20:09,062 Red alert! Red alert! There are kids 361 00:20:09,146 --> 00:20:11,146 going to the movies tonight. 362 00:20:11,229 --> 00:20:13,604 We must put a stop to this! 363 00:20:13,688 --> 00:20:15,822 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): Well, my junior year, me and Saad had just decided, 364 00:20:15,855 --> 00:20:18,813 yo, we'll be the first Muslim guys to go to our prom. 365 00:20:18,896 --> 00:20:20,780 I was kind of like a scaredy-cat, and I was like, 366 00:20:20,813 --> 00:20:23,187 well, I don't... I don't even know who to ask. 367 00:20:23,271 --> 00:20:25,114 I happened to run it by Debbie. 368 00:20:26,021 --> 00:20:28,479 I think I asked her if Hae would've been interested. 369 00:20:28,563 --> 00:20:31,938 I don't think I would've had the courage to just ask Hae. 370 00:20:32,021 --> 00:20:33,844 Debbie told me, yeah, just ask her. 371 00:20:35,771 --> 00:20:37,898 And, uh, she said yeah. 372 00:20:39,521 --> 00:20:42,976 They were both, you know, had my ear on liking the other one. 373 00:20:43,430 --> 00:20:45,406 There was a lot of note-writing, I remember that. 374 00:20:45,484 --> 00:20:48,479 (LAUGHING) And then my saying, okay, enough with the note-writing, 375 00:20:48,563 --> 00:20:51,117 just talk to each other! So high school. (LAUGHING) 376 00:20:51,656 --> 00:20:54,312 But it was sweet. It was, you know, it was young love. 377 00:20:54,396 --> 00:20:57,891 It was... it was cute. (GIGGLES) 378 00:20:58,625 --> 00:21:01,479 HAE: April 27th, 1998. 379 00:21:01,563 --> 00:21:04,396 Eek! 20 days since I wrote. 380 00:21:04,479 --> 00:21:06,646 Oh well. Let me fill you in. 381 00:21:06,730 --> 00:21:09,354 School is still a bitch, but I'm surviving it. 382 00:21:09,438 --> 00:21:11,980 And prom was the 25th, and I better tell about it 383 00:21:12,062 --> 00:21:14,438 while it's still fresh in my mind. 384 00:21:14,521 --> 00:21:16,229 I wore this dress that's blue 385 00:21:16,312 --> 00:21:18,855 and sparkles as purple in light. 386 00:21:20,563 --> 00:21:23,396 First, he dropped me off at Isha's, still not dressed. 387 00:21:23,479 --> 00:21:25,271 I seriously freaked because I thought 388 00:21:25,354 --> 00:21:27,045 we were going to be late for prom, 389 00:21:28,104 --> 00:21:30,021 but he got his tux. 390 00:21:30,104 --> 00:21:33,062 We took our pics, one together, one of me, 391 00:21:33,146 --> 00:21:35,631 and one with me, Isha, Becky, and Debbie. 392 00:21:36,726 --> 00:21:38,559 I was so crazy. 393 00:21:40,438 --> 00:21:43,076 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): She had some sparkly silver shoes. 394 00:21:43,938 --> 00:21:47,521 It was like a blue dress and it was like down, like, 395 00:21:47,604 --> 00:21:50,855 probably like halfway between, like, her waist and her knee. 396 00:21:50,938 --> 00:21:52,604 She looked beautiful. 397 00:21:52,688 --> 00:21:56,104 HAE: I swear, he is like the sweetest guy. 398 00:21:56,187 --> 00:21:58,980 Let me tell you why. He was the prom prince, 399 00:21:59,062 --> 00:22:01,646 and Stephanie McPherson was princess. 400 00:22:01,738 --> 00:22:06,112 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): I remember I was surprised when they announced me. 401 00:22:06,187 --> 00:22:08,604 I was actually, like, super worried, like in scared, 402 00:22:08,688 --> 00:22:11,396 because now it would definitely be a picture of me 403 00:22:11,479 --> 00:22:13,104 in the yearbook. 404 00:22:13,416 --> 00:22:16,730 When they announced Stephanie, it was kind of weird in a way. 405 00:22:16,813 --> 00:22:19,229 At the end of eighth grade me and Stephanie 406 00:22:19,312 --> 00:22:21,697 we were kind of like dating a little bit, but not really. 407 00:22:21,759 --> 00:22:24,521 We were, we called each other boyfriend and girlfriend. 408 00:22:24,604 --> 00:22:26,364 I wasn't really sure, like, the etiquette was. 409 00:22:26,397 --> 00:22:28,646 Like, well, do I dance with my date? 410 00:22:28,730 --> 00:22:30,271 Do I dance with Stephanie? 411 00:22:30,354 --> 00:22:32,646 And Hae had this... One of her favorite songs 412 00:22:32,730 --> 00:22:35,813 was the song by the duo called K-Ci and JoJo. 413 00:22:37,813 --> 00:22:40,688 And they started playing that song. 414 00:22:40,771 --> 00:22:43,312 HAE: Traditionally, they were supposed to dance together, 415 00:22:43,396 --> 00:22:46,479 to my song, K-Ci & JoJo's "All My Life." 416 00:22:46,563 --> 00:22:48,688 I tried to act natural and not jealous, 417 00:22:48,771 --> 00:22:50,438 but it did kind of bother me. 418 00:22:50,536 --> 00:22:52,703 But I took the pic of them dancing and sat next to Deb, 419 00:22:52,771 --> 00:22:56,042 who went on about how neat it is for Adnan to be the prince. 420 00:22:56,753 --> 00:22:58,813 Ten seconds later, guess who dances 421 00:22:58,896 --> 00:23:00,800 with me and not with Stephanie? 422 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:02,883 Adnan! 423 00:23:02,917 --> 00:23:05,062 Now, how could I not fall in love with this guy? 424 00:23:05,146 --> 00:23:09,521 ♪ Baby, baby, baby, baby ♪ ♪ Baby, baby, baby, baby ♪ 425 00:23:09,604 --> 00:23:11,187 ("ALL MY LIFE" PLAYING) 426 00:23:11,271 --> 00:23:12,947 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): I was, like, all about my hair... 427 00:23:12,980 --> 00:23:14,563 (LAUGHING): in high school. 428 00:23:14,661 --> 00:23:18,286 I used to use, like, a ton of product, Pantene Pro-V Shampoo. 429 00:23:18,354 --> 00:23:20,104 I used to use the Pantene hair gel, 430 00:23:20,187 --> 00:23:22,771 and so I didn't like having the crown on 431 00:23:22,855 --> 00:23:24,688 'cause I thought it was messing my hair up. 432 00:23:24,771 --> 00:23:27,104 Hae was like, no, no, you gotta wear it, you gotta wear it. 433 00:23:27,441 --> 00:23:29,211 She was, like, holding my arm real tight. 434 00:23:29,245 --> 00:23:31,938 It was a nice feeling. It was kind of like she was showing me off. 435 00:23:32,021 --> 00:23:34,688 ♪ I will never find another ♪ ♪ Lover sweeter than you ♪ 436 00:23:34,771 --> 00:23:36,271 And the crown matched her dress. 437 00:23:36,354 --> 00:23:38,104 Like, the crown had a blue top. 438 00:23:38,187 --> 00:23:39,980 Someone asked me was she the queen, 439 00:23:40,062 --> 00:23:43,891 and I just immediately thought of it, I said, no she's my queen though! 440 00:23:44,229 --> 00:23:46,271 And Hae was like, aw, and I was like, 441 00:23:46,354 --> 00:23:48,730 thank God I said something smart for once. 442 00:23:48,813 --> 00:23:50,312 (LAUGHS) 443 00:23:50,396 --> 00:23:52,855 ♪ And for you this song I sing ♪ 444 00:23:52,938 --> 00:23:55,688 ♪ And all my life ♪ 445 00:23:55,771 --> 00:23:58,187 And I remember our first kiss was at the prom. 446 00:23:58,271 --> 00:24:00,604 My whole life, that was one of the best moments of my life. 447 00:24:00,688 --> 00:24:03,938 ♪ And all my life ♪ 448 00:24:04,021 --> 00:24:05,896 Like, one of the happiest times. 449 00:24:07,646 --> 00:24:09,896 (FADING): ♪ And I thank God ♪ 450 00:24:09,980 --> 00:24:13,062 When I came home that night, as soon as I got in the front door 451 00:24:13,146 --> 00:24:15,771 the hallway light went on. I knew it was my mom. 452 00:24:15,855 --> 00:24:17,146 I was like, holy crap! 453 00:24:18,271 --> 00:24:20,187 I hurried up and threw the crown 454 00:24:20,271 --> 00:24:22,062 and my tuxedo under the stairs. 455 00:24:22,818 --> 00:24:24,238 She was like, "Oh, Adnan, where have you been?" 456 00:24:24,271 --> 00:24:26,479 I was like, "Oh, you know, just out hanging out." 457 00:24:26,563 --> 00:24:28,613 (LAUGHING) She was like, "It's one o'clock in the morning." 458 00:24:28,646 --> 00:24:30,526 I was like, "Oh yeah, Mom, you know, I'm tired." 459 00:24:30,563 --> 00:24:32,146 I'm going to go to sleep." 460 00:24:33,354 --> 00:24:35,771 HAE: Parting is such a sweet sorrow. 461 00:24:35,855 --> 00:24:39,187 The moment he went out the door, I missed him. 462 00:24:39,271 --> 00:24:41,771 I went to sleep and dreamed. 463 00:24:41,870 --> 00:24:45,791 Since then, I keep on falling deeper and deeper into him. 464 00:24:46,688 --> 00:24:50,271 He's the cutest, sweetest, and coolest guy, 465 00:24:50,354 --> 00:24:52,271 and he loves me. 466 00:24:52,354 --> 00:24:55,771 The bad thing is that we have to keep things secret. 467 00:24:55,855 --> 00:25:01,312 (SIGHS) But it's okay, 'cause love conquers all! 468 00:25:11,021 --> 00:25:13,104 (DISHES RATTLING) 469 00:25:13,187 --> 00:25:15,062 (OVEN BEEPING) 470 00:25:15,146 --> 00:25:16,933 - You want an egg with it or...? - Mm? 471 00:25:17,026 --> 00:25:18,464 (KNOCKING) 472 00:25:18,535 --> 00:25:20,162 I think somebody's knocking at the door, Yusuf. 473 00:25:20,195 --> 00:25:22,582 YUSUF: All right. Welcome Rabia. 474 00:25:22,683 --> 00:25:25,574 (WELCOMING RABIA IN ARABIC) 475 00:25:29,002 --> 00:25:30,753 You want me to make some food for you? 476 00:25:30,787 --> 00:25:32,896 No, I can't eat right now. 477 00:25:32,980 --> 00:25:35,646 - You look jittery. - Do I look nice? (LAUGHING) 478 00:25:35,730 --> 00:25:37,705 You look so nice, oh my God. 479 00:25:37,739 --> 00:25:39,980 I'm jealous. I wish I could have something like this. 480 00:25:40,062 --> 00:25:41,980 Is uncle coming to the...? 481 00:25:42,062 --> 00:25:44,222 - YUSUF: He said he's not feeling well. - SHAMIM: Yeah. 482 00:25:44,255 --> 00:25:46,479 When he sees something, you know, he get very depressed. 483 00:25:46,653 --> 00:25:50,062 - YUSUF: It's hard for him, super duper. - He'll feel better if he goes. 484 00:25:50,146 --> 00:25:51,521 YUSUF: No, no, no. 485 00:25:52,020 --> 00:25:54,771 Nobody has to know that that's Adnan's dad. 486 00:25:54,855 --> 00:25:56,196 He can just sit in the, you know... 487 00:25:56,229 --> 00:25:58,746 We can just put him in the back quietly and he can sit there. 488 00:26:00,175 --> 00:26:03,253 - SHAMIM: Yusuf, go. - I'll try to ask it'll be tough for him 489 00:26:03,287 --> 00:26:04,308 When seated. 490 00:26:04,342 --> 00:26:06,033 ...when all the people are coming up to him... 491 00:26:06,066 --> 00:26:07,613 - RABIA: And talking to him. - Yeah, talking to him. 492 00:26:07,646 --> 00:26:09,071 YUSUF: Like, he built, like, a bubble 493 00:26:09,104 --> 00:26:11,271 in order to survive everything that's happened. 494 00:26:11,354 --> 00:26:13,062 SHAMIM: Yeah. 495 00:26:13,146 --> 00:26:15,646 - Let me go talk to him. - You know, it's okay. 496 00:26:15,730 --> 00:26:17,896 If he's not up to it, it's fine. 497 00:26:20,104 --> 00:26:23,771 SYED RAHMAN: When the pressure of Adnan came... 498 00:26:25,021 --> 00:26:29,104 I actually took early retirement. 499 00:26:30,062 --> 00:26:33,646 It was too much pain. 500 00:26:35,312 --> 00:26:37,104 It is extremely hard, 501 00:26:37,661 --> 00:26:42,062 and you have to go through it day in and day out. 502 00:26:42,434 --> 00:26:46,521 And you know that he is innocent. Why? 503 00:26:48,692 --> 00:26:50,918 There's more hurting really here. 504 00:26:57,980 --> 00:27:02,479 Tonight is the first time, um, really since 1999 505 00:27:02,563 --> 00:27:05,521 that the entire community is going to get together. 506 00:27:05,604 --> 00:27:07,312 You know, the first year there were 507 00:27:07,396 --> 00:27:09,980 a lot of meetings at the mosque. 508 00:27:10,062 --> 00:27:11,855 And then he got convicted, and, um, 509 00:27:11,938 --> 00:27:14,980 you know, that was kind of the end of it. 510 00:27:22,855 --> 00:27:25,354 People don't understand that when you come from... 511 00:27:25,438 --> 00:27:28,271 Especially from South Asia, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, 512 00:27:28,354 --> 00:27:32,021 the judiciary and the police are very corrupt, 513 00:27:32,104 --> 00:27:33,730 and people are terrified of them. 514 00:27:33,828 --> 00:27:36,574 So it was a terrifying experience for them to have to go to court, 515 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,855 but they have a lot of faith in the American justice system. 516 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,896 (RABIA SPEAKING IN ARABIC) 517 00:27:42,980 --> 00:27:46,146 I'm going to stand so everybody can see me, and so I can see everybody. 518 00:27:46,229 --> 00:27:49,438 And, uh, good evening. Thank you guys all for coming. 519 00:27:49,521 --> 00:27:52,813 I know there are people here who have never ever met Adnan in their life, 520 00:27:52,896 --> 00:27:55,813 and I know there are people here who have known him since he was a child. 521 00:27:56,730 --> 00:27:58,396 There are so many layers in this story 522 00:27:58,479 --> 00:28:00,354 that have caught global attention, 523 00:28:00,438 --> 00:28:02,229 and we're hoping that 524 00:28:02,312 --> 00:28:04,396 God didn't bring us this far for nothing. 525 00:28:05,688 --> 00:28:07,354 When you are working on a case 526 00:28:07,438 --> 00:28:09,062 that you think is a wrongful conviction, 527 00:28:09,146 --> 00:28:12,021 you're only on one side and that side is getting to the truth. 528 00:28:12,104 --> 00:28:14,896 And that truth is... is there for everybody. 529 00:28:14,980 --> 00:28:16,405 It's not just there for the defendant, 530 00:28:16,438 --> 00:28:18,062 it's there for the victim. 531 00:28:18,146 --> 00:28:20,646 YUSUF: Something that gets lost in all of this 532 00:28:20,730 --> 00:28:24,187 is the person who lost their life, 533 00:28:24,271 --> 00:28:26,855 and that's Hae Min Lee. 534 00:28:26,938 --> 00:28:30,980 She was born October 15th, 1980, 535 00:28:31,793 --> 00:28:35,021 and she would've been 35 years old 536 00:28:35,104 --> 00:28:37,104 if she was alive today. 537 00:28:37,937 --> 00:28:41,021 RABIA: My prayers are always not just that Adnan's exonerated, 538 00:28:41,104 --> 00:28:42,938 but that God brings a truth to light. 539 00:28:44,438 --> 00:28:47,396 Because that is justice for Hae. 540 00:28:53,187 --> 00:28:56,396 NEWSWOMAN: What a mess the freezing rain left behind. 541 00:28:56,479 --> 00:28:58,855 Accidents all over the place. 542 00:28:58,938 --> 00:29:00,604 A drive through western Baltimore County, 543 00:29:00,688 --> 00:29:02,563 and it was more of the same. 544 00:29:02,646 --> 00:29:04,563 You dodge falling branches 545 00:29:04,646 --> 00:29:06,896 on side streets just about everywhere you go. 546 00:29:07,667 --> 00:29:09,362 It's been almost a disaster here, 547 00:29:09,438 --> 00:29:11,638 even though schools have been off, which has been good. 548 00:29:14,730 --> 00:29:16,850 KRISTA: A lot of people in the area didn't have power, 549 00:29:16,896 --> 00:29:18,980 because of that big ice storm that came through. 550 00:29:19,062 --> 00:29:20,938 So when she originally went missing, 551 00:29:21,062 --> 00:29:23,104 nobody really thought a whole lot of it. 552 00:29:23,187 --> 00:29:25,521 We just assumed that she was with her new boyfriend. 553 00:29:26,688 --> 00:29:28,855 She kept promising me, like, 554 00:29:28,938 --> 00:29:31,771 she was so looking forward to my 18th birthday party, 555 00:29:31,855 --> 00:29:33,438 which was the 15th, and obviously, 556 00:29:33,521 --> 00:29:34,980 she went missing the 13th. 557 00:29:35,869 --> 00:29:37,453 (CAMERA CLICKING) 558 00:29:37,771 --> 00:29:41,354 I pretty much invited everybody that was part of our class. 559 00:29:41,438 --> 00:29:44,268 (CAMERA CLICKING) 560 00:29:45,438 --> 00:29:48,229 I remember eating pizza, and I hadn't had a warm meal, 561 00:29:48,312 --> 00:29:49,688 'cause it was, like, the snow, 562 00:29:49,771 --> 00:29:51,279 the ice storm, and there was no power. 563 00:29:51,312 --> 00:29:53,021 (CAMERA CLICKING) 564 00:29:53,111 --> 00:29:56,070 KRISTA: I think it was like 8:30 or so, and Adnan came in. 565 00:29:56,180 --> 00:29:58,646 But he and Jay and Stephanie came in together. 566 00:30:00,021 --> 00:30:02,229 LAURA: Jay was eccentric. 567 00:30:02,312 --> 00:30:05,112 Some people described him as like Dennis Rodman. 568 00:30:05,175 --> 00:30:07,604 He had piercings and he listened 569 00:30:07,688 --> 00:30:10,355 to heavy metal and rock music. 570 00:30:11,104 --> 00:30:13,049 KRISTA: I did not hang out with Jay personally, 571 00:30:13,083 --> 00:30:15,568 but Stephanie asked if he could come with her. 572 00:30:16,506 --> 00:30:18,738 You know, Hae was the... she was the primary conversation, 573 00:30:18,771 --> 00:30:20,688 but we thought, well, let's try to have fun. 574 00:30:20,771 --> 00:30:22,896 Maybe she'll show up. 575 00:30:23,175 --> 00:30:25,737 KRISTA: We get to the end of the night, and she never showed up. 576 00:30:25,771 --> 00:30:27,479 (CAMERA CLICKING) 577 00:30:27,563 --> 00:30:31,479 For her not to call or page or e-mail or anything... 578 00:30:32,646 --> 00:30:34,206 it was just really weird. 579 00:30:35,953 --> 00:30:39,657 That's when I knew, like, something really had to be wrong with her. 580 00:30:40,646 --> 00:30:42,126 DEBBIE: They started to look for her. 581 00:30:42,194 --> 00:30:45,319 - (SIREN BLARES) - (INDISTINCT POLICE RADIO CHATTER) 582 00:30:45,396 --> 00:30:49,521 They had the dogs down in the creek looking for her scent. 583 00:30:53,604 --> 00:30:55,980 AISHA: My parents were constantly asking me, like, 584 00:30:56,062 --> 00:30:58,146 is there any place you think she could be? 585 00:30:58,229 --> 00:31:00,655 And it was like, at this point I would definitely say something, 586 00:31:00,688 --> 00:31:03,187 I wouldn't try to protect her 587 00:31:03,271 --> 00:31:05,430 with so many people being worried. 588 00:31:05,755 --> 00:31:07,209 (WOMAN SPEAKING KOREAN) 589 00:31:49,938 --> 00:31:53,438 LAURA: The cops were at the school asking questions. 590 00:31:55,229 --> 00:31:58,521 HOPE: I was asked by the detectives, being that I was younger in age 591 00:31:58,604 --> 00:32:01,813 and close to a lot of the circle that she ran in 592 00:32:01,896 --> 00:32:05,771 if I would make up some questions that I could give 593 00:32:05,855 --> 00:32:08,062 to the girls to kind of ask around 594 00:32:08,146 --> 00:32:10,586 to see if any of the "Magnet" students knew what was going on. 595 00:32:15,062 --> 00:32:17,479 Obviously an ex-boyfriend is going to be 596 00:32:17,563 --> 00:32:19,730 somebody of interest, 597 00:32:19,813 --> 00:32:22,104 and the only one I strictly remember is, 598 00:32:22,187 --> 00:32:24,396 was there a certain place that Adnan and Hae would go 599 00:32:24,479 --> 00:32:25,905 and hang out and spend time together, 600 00:32:25,938 --> 00:32:28,146 where they could be away and not be discovered. 601 00:32:28,229 --> 00:32:30,062 (TYPEWRITER CLACKING) 602 00:32:30,146 --> 00:32:32,896 I said to her, would you please ask around, 603 00:32:32,980 --> 00:32:36,146 and she put those questions in her agenda book. 604 00:32:37,229 --> 00:32:39,146 Each student had to carry around an agenda book, 605 00:32:39,229 --> 00:32:40,789 and it was the only way that they could 606 00:32:40,855 --> 00:32:43,062 get out of the class to go to the bathroom. 607 00:32:43,146 --> 00:32:44,938 The teacher would sign off. 608 00:32:45,021 --> 00:32:46,730 Adnan did not have his agenda 609 00:32:46,813 --> 00:32:48,521 and he really had to go to the bathroom, 610 00:32:48,604 --> 00:32:50,896 and so he said, Debbie, can I borrow your planner? 611 00:32:53,021 --> 00:32:55,354 He came to me and wanted to know 612 00:32:55,438 --> 00:32:57,938 why I was asking questions about him. 613 00:32:58,021 --> 00:33:00,104 And he said, please don't do that, 614 00:33:00,187 --> 00:33:03,021 because I don't want my parents knowing my business. 615 00:33:08,855 --> 00:33:11,438 HAE: May 1st, 1998. 616 00:33:11,521 --> 00:33:13,938 Adnan is the sweetest guy. 617 00:33:14,021 --> 00:33:16,649 I love him to death. Guess what he did? 618 00:33:16,805 --> 00:33:20,438 He went out and picked up a single rose for me. 619 00:33:20,521 --> 00:33:24,438 And he gave it to me in Physics. Everyone was staring. 620 00:33:24,521 --> 00:33:26,380 All I could do was just look surprised 621 00:33:26,414 --> 00:33:28,855 and just kiss him in the middle of class. 622 00:33:30,896 --> 00:33:33,036 All day I walked around with my rose. 623 00:33:33,365 --> 00:33:35,740 Everyone was telling me how cute it is and all. 624 00:33:36,521 --> 00:33:39,479 I came home and put it in the heart vase I got from prom. 625 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,938 He's picking me up after SATs, 626 00:33:42,021 --> 00:33:43,646 and we're going to go somewhere. 627 00:33:43,730 --> 00:33:45,438 I can't wait! 628 00:33:47,312 --> 00:33:49,593 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): I was so happy to have her in my life. 629 00:33:50,396 --> 00:33:52,146 Like, she was probably one of, 630 00:33:52,229 --> 00:33:54,479 if not my closest friend at the time. 631 00:33:54,563 --> 00:33:57,438 I used to make cards for her and stuff like that. 632 00:33:59,396 --> 00:34:01,771 Sometimes I would come visit her at nighttime, 633 00:34:02,896 --> 00:34:04,530 and I would talk to her through the window. 634 00:34:04,563 --> 00:34:06,238 Like, she would open the window up, and like, 635 00:34:06,271 --> 00:34:08,591 we'd just be standing right there. We might kiss and stuff. 636 00:34:10,146 --> 00:34:12,187 HAE: Me and my baby went out after school. 637 00:34:12,271 --> 00:34:15,688 We dropped Stephanie at Garlands to get her car from Jay. 638 00:34:15,771 --> 00:34:18,479 Then me and Adnan made out in the parking lot. 639 00:34:18,884 --> 00:34:20,470 Then I went to practice. 640 00:34:21,486 --> 00:34:23,780 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): Because we couldn't go to each other's house, 641 00:34:23,813 --> 00:34:26,146 we used to hook up at Best Buy. 642 00:34:27,563 --> 00:34:30,438 We used to do that at nighttime when it was dark outside. 643 00:34:31,688 --> 00:34:35,221 Or we would go to, you know, like a hotel room. 644 00:34:38,312 --> 00:34:40,932 I guess it seemed like it was a normal progression of things. 645 00:34:42,271 --> 00:34:43,646 I would just tell my mom I was 646 00:34:43,730 --> 00:34:45,813 spending the night at Saad's house. 647 00:34:45,896 --> 00:34:47,736 She told her mom she was going to Aisha's house 648 00:34:47,813 --> 00:34:49,980 to spend the night. 649 00:34:50,062 --> 00:34:52,187 Anytime she was actually sleeping at my house, 650 00:34:52,271 --> 00:34:53,438 he would always stop by, 651 00:34:53,521 --> 00:34:55,896 because he lived right in my same neighborhood. 652 00:34:55,980 --> 00:34:59,479 So he would come by and knock on my window. (LAUGHS) 653 00:35:00,321 --> 00:35:02,547 Neither of their families could know, 654 00:35:02,581 --> 00:35:07,282 so they had, like, methods of being able to call each other. 655 00:35:07,524 --> 00:35:10,396 HAE: My baby's been gone since the 16th. 656 00:35:10,479 --> 00:35:12,104 He went to Texas with his father 657 00:35:12,187 --> 00:35:14,312 for some Muslim convention thing. 658 00:35:14,396 --> 00:35:17,730 He called me on Friday, twice, with calling cards. 659 00:35:17,813 --> 00:35:19,438 Isn't he sweet? 660 00:35:19,521 --> 00:35:23,646 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): I would page her and then when I would call her, 661 00:35:23,730 --> 00:35:26,479 she would already have called, like, the weather or time. 662 00:35:26,563 --> 00:35:28,123 OPERATOR: The current temperature is... 663 00:35:28,187 --> 00:35:30,747 ADNAN: So when the call comes through, it wouldn't actually ring. 664 00:35:30,813 --> 00:35:33,646 It'd just be call-waiting 'cause you could just click over. 665 00:35:34,926 --> 00:35:37,113 - (PHONE BEEPING) - SHAMIM: I used to listen to the phone. 666 00:35:37,146 --> 00:35:39,604 And he'd say, Mom, everybody's doing it, you know, 667 00:35:39,688 --> 00:35:42,104 all the Pakistani children doing it, 668 00:35:42,187 --> 00:35:45,021 but their parents doesn't know it. But I said, I know it. 669 00:35:46,438 --> 00:35:48,363 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): My mom, like, she would get mad at me, 670 00:35:48,396 --> 00:35:50,521 but it would just be funny to me. 671 00:35:50,604 --> 00:35:53,104 'Cause she was always mad at me about something, right? 672 00:35:53,657 --> 00:35:55,905 But I've never wanted to hurt my mom, though, you know what I mean? 673 00:35:55,938 --> 00:35:58,187 That's why I would always try to hide stuff from her. 674 00:35:58,271 --> 00:36:00,771 TANVEER: My mom and Adnan would go back and forth. 675 00:36:00,855 --> 00:36:02,187 My dad would just be like, look, 676 00:36:02,271 --> 00:36:04,154 I just came back from work, and I'm tired, you know. 677 00:36:04,187 --> 00:36:06,029 He's doing really good in school. He couldn't be doing 678 00:36:06,062 --> 00:36:08,438 whatever you say he's doing and be doing good in school. 679 00:36:10,521 --> 00:36:13,380 HAE: Do I dare to pull him away from his religion? 680 00:36:13,930 --> 00:36:16,716 Ms. Salick was all up in my face about it. 681 00:36:17,419 --> 00:36:19,855 She said stuff like, well, Adnan used to be 682 00:36:19,938 --> 00:36:21,813 so religious and strict last year, 683 00:36:21,896 --> 00:36:24,229 but this year, he is so loose. 684 00:36:24,312 --> 00:36:25,833 Like I changed him. 685 00:36:26,563 --> 00:36:29,104 And I don't want to pull him away from who he is, 686 00:36:29,194 --> 00:36:33,991 But I do know one thing; I love him and he loves me. 687 00:36:36,563 --> 00:36:38,521 SAAD: Adnan would tell me about her and he said, 688 00:36:38,604 --> 00:36:42,312 you know, me and her are perfect, but she's frustrated. 689 00:36:42,396 --> 00:36:44,229 She wants a normal relationship 690 00:36:44,312 --> 00:36:46,577 where she can go over to her boyfriend's house 691 00:36:46,611 --> 00:36:48,813 and have dinner with his family. 692 00:36:48,896 --> 00:36:50,521 And, you know, you're in high school, 693 00:36:50,604 --> 00:36:52,146 so everything's so much more dramatic. 694 00:36:52,229 --> 00:36:53,730 It's like Romeo and Juliet. 695 00:36:56,980 --> 00:36:59,479 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): With her mom, it wasn't a strict game. 696 00:36:59,563 --> 00:37:01,187 It's just that her mom wanted to meet 697 00:37:01,271 --> 00:37:03,771 the family of who she was dating, so... 698 00:37:04,896 --> 00:37:06,688 that obviously wasn't going to happen. 699 00:37:06,771 --> 00:37:12,521 ♪ Hey, what you doing? ♪ 700 00:37:12,604 --> 00:37:15,479 ♪ Not a lot ♪ 701 00:37:15,563 --> 00:37:18,771 ♪ Shaking and moving ♪ 702 00:37:18,855 --> 00:37:20,896 ♪ At my local spot ♪ 703 00:37:20,980 --> 00:37:22,571 ADNAN (OVER THE PHONE): On the weekends she went to go work 704 00:37:22,604 --> 00:37:24,855 at her uncle's convenience store. 705 00:37:24,938 --> 00:37:26,868 It was right near Camden Yards. 706 00:37:27,423 --> 00:37:29,876 Her mom made her go and live there 707 00:37:29,910 --> 00:37:32,021 above the store for like a week. 708 00:37:32,104 --> 00:37:34,837 It was definitely a consequence of her seeing me. 709 00:37:36,438 --> 00:37:37,896 HAE: I had fun today. 710 00:37:37,980 --> 00:37:39,479 Probably the last fun I'll have 711 00:37:39,563 --> 00:37:41,771 before I get locked away for a week. 712 00:37:41,855 --> 00:37:44,146 We'll survive, me and my baby. 713 00:37:44,229 --> 00:37:45,396 I know for sure. 714 00:37:45,479 --> 00:37:49,062 ♪ 'Cause if I had my way ♪ 715 00:37:49,146 --> 00:37:52,354 ♪ You would always stay ♪ 716 00:37:52,438 --> 00:37:58,646 ♪ And I'll be your tiny dancer, honey ♪ 717 00:38:00,271 --> 00:38:03,771 AISHA: She talked about her mom being very strict, 718 00:38:03,855 --> 00:38:05,312 so that caused a lot of tension, 719 00:38:05,396 --> 00:38:08,396 and then also having a lot of responsibility. 720 00:38:08,479 --> 00:38:11,730 She lived with her grandparents, her mother, her uncle, 721 00:38:11,813 --> 00:38:14,217 two younger cousins, and her brother. 722 00:38:14,771 --> 00:38:16,530 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): Being, like, the oldest one, you know, 723 00:38:16,563 --> 00:38:18,563 she helped translate for them and things like that. 724 00:38:18,604 --> 00:38:21,396 So she kind of felt like she had equal footing in the household. 725 00:38:21,479 --> 00:38:23,187 She could do what she wanted to. 726 00:38:23,271 --> 00:38:25,911 If I want to have a boyfriend I should be able to have a boyfriend. 727 00:38:26,429 --> 00:38:29,929 HAE: Damn my grandma and mother. I'm pushing Adnan away. 728 00:38:30,616 --> 00:38:33,688 I can't get close, and he can't get close to me. 729 00:38:33,771 --> 00:38:36,608 I can't believe things are about to blow up in my face. 730 00:38:37,146 --> 00:38:40,271 (SIGHS) My life's a bitch. 731 00:38:40,354 --> 00:38:46,604 ♪ Roses are in your country house ♪ 732 00:38:46,688 --> 00:38:52,438 ♪ We play guitar in your barn ♪ 733 00:38:52,521 --> 00:38:54,771 AISHA: She was always looking for an escape 734 00:38:54,855 --> 00:38:57,682 from what her home environment was. 735 00:38:58,771 --> 00:39:00,229 Now that I think about it, 736 00:39:00,312 --> 00:39:02,563 I would drop her off or pick her up, 737 00:39:02,646 --> 00:39:05,002 but I had never been in her house. 738 00:39:05,525 --> 00:39:08,236 Only like in the very front door. 739 00:39:09,730 --> 00:39:11,980 ♪ I waited for you ♪ 740 00:39:12,209 --> 00:39:15,342 ADNAN (ON PHONE): I know sometimes that she would tell me okay come pick me up. 741 00:39:16,604 --> 00:39:17,938 When we were in the car, 742 00:39:18,021 --> 00:39:19,697 I would say, well, hey, where do you want to go? 743 00:39:19,730 --> 00:39:22,011 She was like, I don't care, hurry up, let's just get away. 744 00:39:22,604 --> 00:39:26,021 ♪ You said you'd meet me ♪ ♪ Out there tomorrow ♪ 745 00:39:26,104 --> 00:39:32,604 ♪ But tomorrow never came ♪ 746 00:39:32,688 --> 00:39:38,187 ♪ Tomorrow never came ♪ 747 00:39:41,646 --> 00:39:44,479 No, no. She didn't... She didn't like, you know... 748 00:39:44,563 --> 00:39:47,646 She didn't want people around her mother and her family life. 749 00:39:47,730 --> 00:39:49,241 She just... These are my friends, 750 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,467 this is my good life over here, this is my home life. 751 00:39:52,271 --> 00:39:55,396 And, you know, school in general was a force of separation 752 00:39:55,479 --> 00:39:58,795 from that side of her that she didn't really want to reveal. 753 00:40:00,688 --> 00:40:03,959 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): In public, she was just like a positive ray of light. 754 00:40:04,563 --> 00:40:07,604 She was never the person that you would see down. 755 00:40:07,688 --> 00:40:10,146 I think maybe being one way publicly 756 00:40:10,229 --> 00:40:12,697 but privately, you know, to go through what she was going through, 757 00:40:12,730 --> 00:40:16,146 I think that probably put on her a great amount of stress. 758 00:40:18,055 --> 00:40:19,438 Sometimes she would get upset 759 00:40:19,521 --> 00:40:21,980 like when she would talk about her back home in Korea. 760 00:40:23,479 --> 00:40:26,110 We were in bed together, and, like, she got really upset, 761 00:40:26,144 --> 00:40:27,813 like, she got super upset. 762 00:40:27,896 --> 00:40:29,521 It was almost like a standoff almost. 763 00:40:29,604 --> 00:40:32,160 Like, I'm at one edge of the bed, and she's at the other. 764 00:40:32,194 --> 00:40:33,417 She was weeping. 765 00:40:34,646 --> 00:40:38,146 She had her face down, she had her, like, her legs curled up. 766 00:40:40,146 --> 00:40:42,813 I'd never seen nothing like that before. 767 00:40:44,187 --> 00:40:46,813 And that's when she... She told me, 768 00:40:48,730 --> 00:40:52,917 she had been sexually abused when she was in Korea. 769 00:40:54,312 --> 00:40:57,891 And I was in shock, 'cause I'd never, ever experienced that, 770 00:40:57,925 --> 00:40:59,405 I didn't know anyone who had been abused. 771 00:40:59,438 --> 00:41:01,811 I didn't know anything about that type of abuse. 772 00:41:03,295 --> 00:41:05,521 I kind of had a feeling like I shouldn't touch her 773 00:41:05,604 --> 00:41:07,396 while she's talking about this. 774 00:41:07,479 --> 00:41:09,938 So, you know, so I just kind of listened. 775 00:41:11,521 --> 00:41:13,396 What was upsetting to her is what happened 776 00:41:13,479 --> 00:41:15,778 is the person never, like, got in trouble for it. 777 00:41:16,730 --> 00:41:19,229 She was a young girl, this was an older person 778 00:41:19,312 --> 00:41:22,021 and she couldn't do anything about it in a way. 779 00:41:24,604 --> 00:41:25,855 So just things like that 780 00:41:25,938 --> 00:41:29,021 that I guess I have insight in because I knew her, 781 00:41:29,104 --> 00:41:30,980 and, you know, even with me I didn't 782 00:41:31,062 --> 00:41:32,938 really get the full depth of it. 783 00:41:33,021 --> 00:41:35,221 You know what I'm saying? Like, you guys don't know Hae. 784 00:41:35,271 --> 00:41:38,021 People who have researched this case don't know Hae. 785 00:41:39,438 --> 00:41:42,938 She did confide in me about that. 786 00:41:43,283 --> 00:41:45,113 I don't think it's something she would've been willing 787 00:41:45,146 --> 00:41:46,771 to testify about, or 788 00:41:47,057 --> 00:41:49,196 if that would've happened, it probably would've been years later. 789 00:41:49,229 --> 00:41:51,400 And she, of course, was never given that opportunity. 790 00:41:53,354 --> 00:41:55,896 I suspect that that was why she associated her family 791 00:41:55,980 --> 00:41:58,642 with a culture that she just didn't want to be a part of. 792 00:41:59,604 --> 00:42:02,279 Ultimately, at the end of the day, she didn't have an escape from that. 793 00:42:02,312 --> 00:42:04,646 I mean, that was her household, and she didn't really have 794 00:42:04,730 --> 00:42:06,611 a choice to exist outside of that. 795 00:42:09,438 --> 00:42:12,134 HAE: August 27th, 1998. 796 00:42:12,730 --> 00:42:16,861 Now that I look back at the last five months, I regret it. 797 00:42:17,438 --> 00:42:20,428 Why? Because I have lost myself. 798 00:42:21,187 --> 00:42:23,813 All the lies I told my mother, my family. 799 00:42:24,514 --> 00:42:26,646 Did I mention my grandparents bought a cord phone 800 00:42:26,730 --> 00:42:29,271 to replace the cordless in the kitchen, 801 00:42:29,354 --> 00:42:31,467 to stop my excessive use of phone? 802 00:42:32,202 --> 00:42:34,717 Did I push them so far that they did that? 803 00:42:35,646 --> 00:42:38,771 It seems like my life has been revolving around him. 804 00:42:38,855 --> 00:42:43,312 Where's me? (SIGHS) Love hurts. 805 00:42:45,147 --> 00:42:47,071 DEBBIE: Things were closing in on her, that's the way she felt. 806 00:42:47,104 --> 00:42:48,771 And she liked to be free and open, 807 00:42:48,855 --> 00:42:50,730 and it reminded her of, you know, her mother's 808 00:42:50,813 --> 00:42:52,688 control over her, her uncle's control over her. 809 00:42:52,771 --> 00:42:54,229 That had been so much of her life. 810 00:42:54,312 --> 00:42:56,529 The last thing she wanted was that in her relationship. 811 00:42:57,604 --> 00:42:59,479 That became more of a public issue 812 00:42:59,563 --> 00:43:02,396 when Adnan's parents came to the dance. 813 00:43:04,396 --> 00:43:05,855 TANVEER: The reason they did that 814 00:43:05,938 --> 00:43:08,855 was because my dad didn't believe that Adnan was dating. 815 00:43:08,938 --> 00:43:10,988 I don't believe you, I don't believe you. He's not dating. 816 00:43:11,021 --> 00:43:12,813 He can't get these good grades and be dating. 817 00:43:12,896 --> 00:43:14,604 You don't believe me? You don't believe me? 818 00:43:14,688 --> 00:43:16,396 Let's go take a trip to the school. 819 00:43:16,479 --> 00:43:18,771 I just remember her freaking out about it, like, 820 00:43:18,847 --> 00:43:22,201 he's here with his parents, like, what do we... like, what... 821 00:43:22,243 --> 00:43:25,855 And I just know that she wanted to get out of there. 822 00:43:25,938 --> 00:43:29,314 I just remember that moment and him sitting there 823 00:43:29,422 --> 00:43:32,595 embarrassed and frustrated at the same time. 824 00:43:33,521 --> 00:43:35,521 HAE: Okay, here it goes. 825 00:43:37,146 --> 00:43:39,062 I'm really getting annoyed that the situation 826 00:43:39,153 --> 00:43:40,736 is going the way it is. 827 00:43:41,021 --> 00:43:43,563 At first, I kind of want to make this easy 828 00:43:43,646 --> 00:43:45,104 for me and for you. 829 00:43:45,187 --> 00:43:49,392 People break up all the time. Your life is not going to end. 830 00:43:49,911 --> 00:43:51,876 You'll move on and I'll move on. 831 00:43:52,354 --> 00:43:54,134 But, apparently, you don't respect me enough 832 00:43:54,168 --> 00:43:55,798 to accept my decision. 833 00:43:56,646 --> 00:43:59,354 This was definitely written 834 00:43:59,446 --> 00:44:02,384 probably the Monday or Tuesday after homecoming. 835 00:44:03,478 --> 00:44:04,855 HAE: The more fuss you make, 836 00:44:04,938 --> 00:44:07,438 the more I'm determined to do what I got to do. 837 00:44:07,521 --> 00:44:11,146 I'll be busy today, tomorrow, and probably till Thursday. 838 00:44:11,229 --> 00:44:12,771 I've got other things to do. 839 00:44:12,855 --> 00:44:15,604 Better than give you any hope that we'll get back together. 840 00:44:15,688 --> 00:44:19,563 I really don't see that happening, especially now. 841 00:44:19,646 --> 00:44:23,855 I never want to end this like this, so hostile and cold. 842 00:44:25,646 --> 00:44:27,104 Hate me if you will, 843 00:44:27,187 --> 00:44:30,146 but you should remember that I can never hate you. 844 00:44:31,438 --> 00:44:34,478 KRISTA: So this was definitely not their last breakup. 845 00:44:34,634 --> 00:44:36,271 They got back together after this. 846 00:44:36,354 --> 00:44:38,813 (SCHOOL BELL RINGING) 847 00:44:39,181 --> 00:44:42,275 You can't make logic out of a teenage life. (LAUGHS) 848 00:44:42,352 --> 00:44:45,111 You just can't. Teenagers are all over the place. 849 00:44:46,146 --> 00:44:48,980 You fall in love, you fall out of love, you go back. 850 00:44:49,673 --> 00:44:51,530 You think you're old enough to make your own decisions, 851 00:44:51,563 --> 00:44:53,029 but then you're not really old enough... 852 00:44:53,062 --> 00:44:55,312 (LAUGHING): to make your own decisions. 853 00:44:55,396 --> 00:44:57,396 And you make some choices that sometimes are good 854 00:44:57,479 --> 00:44:59,438 and sometimes are bad. 855 00:45:02,521 --> 00:45:04,104 (GAVEL BANGS) 856 00:45:04,353 --> 00:45:06,896 MURPHY: The State's next witness is Ms. Debbie Warren. 857 00:45:06,980 --> 00:45:09,730 Ms. Warren, will you step up to the witness stand? 858 00:45:12,104 --> 00:45:13,980 Ms. Warren, did you become aware 859 00:45:14,062 --> 00:45:16,896 of any breakups in their relationship? 860 00:45:16,980 --> 00:45:19,312 They had broken up probably two times 861 00:45:19,396 --> 00:45:21,181 before their final breakup 862 00:45:21,321 --> 00:45:25,021 between December and January of '99. 863 00:45:25,104 --> 00:45:28,563 Were you ever aware that Hae dated anyone else 864 00:45:28,646 --> 00:45:30,062 after the final breakup? 865 00:45:30,146 --> 00:45:32,312 - Yes, she did. - Who was that? 866 00:45:32,396 --> 00:45:34,111 Um, Donny. 867 00:45:35,271 --> 00:45:37,563 HAE: December 6th. 868 00:45:37,646 --> 00:45:39,896 What's the matter with me? 869 00:45:39,980 --> 00:45:43,187 Every time I close my eyes, I see my baby, 870 00:45:43,271 --> 00:45:45,771 but I keep on thinking about someone else... 871 00:45:46,856 --> 00:45:48,856 Don Clinedinst. 872 00:45:49,104 --> 00:45:52,104 Why? I don't know. 873 00:45:52,187 --> 00:45:54,438 But I keep wanting to get closer to him. 874 00:45:55,251 --> 00:45:57,479 I'm going to have to get my thoughts straight. 875 00:45:58,197 --> 00:45:59,781 I do love Adnan, 876 00:46:00,021 --> 00:46:01,970 but today I kept on imagining 877 00:46:02,004 --> 00:46:04,521 Don over my body instead of Adnan. 878 00:46:06,438 --> 00:46:08,610 Don is what I would go for in my past. 879 00:46:09,187 --> 00:46:15,312 Blond, blue eyes, white, built, sexy, and nice Camaro. 880 00:46:18,479 --> 00:46:22,048 AISHA: They worked together at LensCrafters. 881 00:46:22,980 --> 00:46:24,923 My assumption was that he was someone 882 00:46:24,957 --> 00:46:27,771 around the same age working at LensCrafters. 883 00:46:27,855 --> 00:46:29,730 When I actually met him, I was like, 884 00:46:29,820 --> 00:46:31,923 oh, he's a lot older than us. 885 00:46:32,813 --> 00:46:35,521 DEBBIE: I knew his name, I knew that he worked with Hae, 886 00:46:35,604 --> 00:46:37,618 I knew that he was 22 years old. 887 00:46:38,243 --> 00:46:40,970 I sensed her just falling head over heels way too quickly, 888 00:46:41,004 --> 00:46:42,860 and it was just too much too soon. 889 00:46:43,396 --> 00:46:44,813 She just came from a relationship 890 00:46:44,896 --> 00:46:46,496 that had the element of sneaking around, 891 00:46:46,563 --> 00:46:48,896 and she's doing the same thing again! 892 00:46:51,258 --> 00:46:52,736 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): I guess we were in the part where we 893 00:46:52,769 --> 00:46:54,368 were transitioning towards friendship. 894 00:46:55,368 --> 00:46:57,312 MURPHY: Did the defendant ever discuss 895 00:46:57,396 --> 00:46:59,079 the fact of Donny with you? 896 00:46:59,548 --> 00:47:01,204 He told me that he thought 897 00:47:01,462 --> 00:47:04,438 that Hae was having a relationship with him 898 00:47:04,536 --> 00:47:06,464 while she was still with Adnan. 899 00:47:07,769 --> 00:47:09,655 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): They portrayed it as if, you know, 900 00:47:09,688 --> 00:47:12,229 I was angry with her, upset with her, 901 00:47:12,312 --> 00:47:13,688 that the final straw was 902 00:47:13,771 --> 00:47:15,735 when I found out she started dating Don, 903 00:47:15,769 --> 00:47:17,655 as if she didn't tell me that she started dating Don, 904 00:47:17,688 --> 00:47:19,534 as if she didn't introduce me to Don. 905 00:47:21,438 --> 00:47:24,021 HAE: January 12th, 1999. 906 00:47:24,104 --> 00:47:27,847 I love you, Don. I think I found my soul mate. 907 00:47:28,438 --> 00:47:29,870 I love you so much. 908 00:47:30,438 --> 00:47:32,688 I fell in love with you the moment I opened my eyes 909 00:47:32,771 --> 00:47:35,438 to see you in the break room for the first time. 910 00:47:36,980 --> 00:47:39,646 MURPHY: Thinking back to the last day you saw Hae, 911 00:47:39,730 --> 00:47:41,151 January 13th, 912 00:47:41,862 --> 00:47:44,675 what was she doing at that particular point in time? 913 00:47:46,229 --> 00:47:49,563 DEBBIE: She was in a rush to go somewhere. 914 00:47:51,178 --> 00:47:52,582 She would've come out of the staircase 915 00:47:52,615 --> 00:47:54,146 directly out of these doors, 916 00:47:54,229 --> 00:47:56,451 down this walkway and right there to her car. 917 00:47:57,354 --> 00:47:59,855 She was intending to pick up her cousin 918 00:47:59,938 --> 00:48:02,771 directly after leaving and then going to see Don. 919 00:48:03,372 --> 00:48:05,239 She was happy. She was excited. 920 00:48:05,980 --> 00:48:09,154 I was guarded and cautious and warning her, but... 921 00:48:11,354 --> 00:48:15,104 I've gone over it in my mind again and again and again. 922 00:48:17,813 --> 00:48:19,947 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): I feel like the day she went missing, 923 00:48:19,980 --> 00:48:21,446 we should've all, like, gotten together 924 00:48:21,479 --> 00:48:23,051 and, like, made a huge thing about it. 925 00:48:24,271 --> 00:48:26,855 I don't know, just like we should've done more, maybe. 926 00:48:26,938 --> 00:48:29,181 Maybe I should've done more. 927 00:48:31,104 --> 00:48:33,521 AISHA: I look back on that and feel like I was 928 00:48:33,604 --> 00:48:35,251 stunned into inaction. 929 00:48:35,938 --> 00:48:37,521 And I think it's just that part of you 930 00:48:37,604 --> 00:48:40,604 that wants to think that something is okay. 931 00:48:43,396 --> 00:48:46,688 I don't know that it ever fully hit me 932 00:48:46,771 --> 00:48:48,229 that something could be wrong 933 00:48:48,312 --> 00:48:52,188 until her brother told me they found her body. 934 00:48:56,438 --> 00:48:58,354 (PHONE RINGING) 935 00:48:58,789 --> 00:49:01,146 OPERATOR: 9-1-1. What's your emergency? 936 00:49:01,813 --> 00:49:04,146 (ALONZO SELLERS SPEAKING) 937 00:49:07,563 --> 00:49:11,062 CRISTINA GUTIERREZ: The defense will call Alonzo Sellers to the stand. 938 00:49:11,146 --> 00:49:12,980 Mr. Sellers, please step all the way up 939 00:49:13,062 --> 00:49:14,406 to the witness stand, please. 940 00:49:15,521 --> 00:49:17,187 All the way up here. 941 00:49:19,646 --> 00:49:22,521 Listen to Ms. Gutierrez who has some questions for you. 942 00:49:22,952 --> 00:49:25,563 GUTIERREZ: Mr. Sellers, let me direct your attention 943 00:49:25,646 --> 00:49:28,656 back to February the 9th, 1999. 944 00:49:28,718 --> 00:49:29,805 Do you recall that day? 945 00:49:31,646 --> 00:49:33,630 Well, sir, you recall the day that you found 946 00:49:33,692 --> 00:49:35,419 the body in Leakin Park, don't you? 947 00:49:36,021 --> 00:49:38,731 That was a pretty important day for you, was it not? 948 00:49:38,786 --> 00:49:40,091 - URICK: Objection! - If you explained that... 949 00:49:40,124 --> 00:49:41,684 I would know what you're talking about. 950 00:49:41,871 --> 00:49:42,910 GUTIERREZ: Okay, now... 951 00:49:43,082 --> 00:49:44,532 on that day you left 952 00:49:44,574 --> 00:49:47,112 - your work at Compton State College? - Yeah. 953 00:49:47,187 --> 00:49:49,938 You traveled from Compton to your home 954 00:49:50,021 --> 00:49:53,771 by way of Franklintown Road? 955 00:49:53,855 --> 00:49:56,062 SELLERS: Yes, I traveled that way, yeah. 956 00:49:56,146 --> 00:49:58,771 GUTIERREZ: And that's an area where there aren't any houses, 957 00:49:58,855 --> 00:50:00,438 it's just woods? 958 00:50:00,505 --> 00:50:02,239 I guess it is. It's a park. 959 00:50:02,289 --> 00:50:04,138 (HAWK SCREECHING) 960 00:50:04,277 --> 00:50:06,525 (ALONZO SPEAKING) 961 00:50:17,521 --> 00:50:20,229 (CAMERA CLICKING) 962 00:50:52,980 --> 00:50:54,855 NEWSMAN: Apparently a passerby 963 00:50:54,938 --> 00:50:57,593 discovered the body of an 18-year-old female. 964 00:50:57,656 --> 00:50:59,479 The detectives and medical examiner were there 965 00:50:59,563 --> 00:51:01,238 throughout the evening trying to locate any type 966 00:51:01,271 --> 00:51:03,479 of physical evidence or other trace evidence. 967 00:51:34,604 --> 00:51:37,104 (SUN SPEAKING KOREAN) 968 00:51:44,688 --> 00:51:47,438 (NEWSWOMAN SPEAKING IN KOREAN) 969 00:51:47,521 --> 00:51:49,354 (SOBBING) 970 00:51:49,438 --> 00:51:52,229 We just want to know who did it and why, 971 00:51:52,312 --> 00:51:54,396 because she's just a nice person. 972 00:51:54,479 --> 00:51:56,771 (SUN SPEAKING KOREAN) 973 00:52:05,828 --> 00:52:08,119 NEWSWOMAN: Police are not saying how Lee died 974 00:52:08,187 --> 00:52:10,894 or how long her body may have been in Leakin Park. 975 00:52:11,034 --> 00:52:14,479 They continue to search for the 1998 Nissan Sentra 976 00:52:14,563 --> 00:52:15,903 she was driving. 977 00:52:21,521 --> 00:52:23,396 KRISTA: You know, I'm the one that told Adnan. 978 00:52:24,270 --> 00:52:27,676 I said, you know, they found Hae's body. She's not alive anymore. 979 00:52:27,935 --> 00:52:30,563 And it was like a pin drop on the other side 980 00:52:30,646 --> 00:52:32,896 of the phone, like complete silence. 981 00:52:35,229 --> 00:52:37,396 I just kept saying like, are you okay? 982 00:52:37,479 --> 00:52:40,354 What do you need me to do? Like, just say something. 983 00:52:40,438 --> 00:52:42,844 And he said, is Aisha home? 984 00:52:44,021 --> 00:52:46,334 He said I'm going to go to her house, can you just call her 985 00:52:46,367 --> 00:52:48,479 and tell her I'm headed that way? 986 00:52:51,646 --> 00:52:57,855 AISHA: Everyone there was just sad and devastated, including Adnan. 987 00:53:00,052 --> 00:53:02,612 KRISTA: By the time I got there, he had been there a few minutes. 988 00:53:03,521 --> 00:53:06,271 He just kept saying things like they had the wrong person, 989 00:53:06,361 --> 00:53:07,797 like this can't be Hae. 990 00:53:08,688 --> 00:53:10,974 He picked up his cell phone and he started 991 00:53:11,008 --> 00:53:13,312 calling the police that were investigating, 992 00:53:13,396 --> 00:53:15,438 and the lady said, you're going to have to call back 993 00:53:15,521 --> 00:53:17,187 and talk to homicide in the morning. 994 00:53:17,271 --> 00:53:19,533 And he just kind of busted out crying. 995 00:53:20,479 --> 00:53:24,062 In the days after that, it slowly sunk in and it was... 996 00:53:24,146 --> 00:53:25,938 He was an emotional mess, 997 00:53:26,021 --> 00:53:28,436 pretty much is what I can boil it down to. 998 00:53:29,646 --> 00:53:31,279 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): It was just really tough, you know, 999 00:53:31,312 --> 00:53:33,479 just to go through the motions of everything. 1000 00:53:33,563 --> 00:53:35,104 But it was like you had to, 1001 00:53:35,194 --> 00:53:36,850 because, like, your life wouldn't stop. 1002 00:53:39,646 --> 00:53:43,529 HOPE: I remember crying with the girls, Debbie and Aisha. 1003 00:53:44,604 --> 00:53:48,479 I have a clear recollection of going up to Adnan 1004 00:53:48,563 --> 00:53:50,980 and hugging him and just saying I'm so sorry, 1005 00:53:51,062 --> 00:53:53,396 and I wrapped my arms around him... 1006 00:53:55,229 --> 00:53:58,980 but I got a very just stern... 1007 00:53:59,062 --> 00:54:00,938 And I don't know if that was a cultural thing, 1008 00:54:01,021 --> 00:54:02,944 I don't know if I should've hugged him. 1009 00:54:04,155 --> 00:54:06,396 I don't know if it was something to read into or not, 1010 00:54:06,479 --> 00:54:08,694 but it wasn't reciprocated back. 1011 00:54:10,085 --> 00:54:12,438 I think I took it a little personally. 1012 00:54:16,021 --> 00:54:18,563 We planned a memorial for Hae. 1013 00:54:18,646 --> 00:54:21,563 We invited her mom and her brother. 1014 00:54:23,104 --> 00:54:26,896 KRISTA: When someone close to you dies, it hits you hard, 1015 00:54:26,980 --> 00:54:30,021 and it makes you appreciate life and it should. 1016 00:54:30,095 --> 00:54:34,747 Life is short and you should experience and live every moment of it. 1017 00:54:36,354 --> 00:54:38,738 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): Like, it's horrible enough that someone dies, 1018 00:54:38,771 --> 00:54:40,604 but for someone to be murdered... 1019 00:54:40,688 --> 00:54:41,980 like, who could've done it, 1020 00:54:42,062 --> 00:54:44,479 like, why would someone have done it, you know? 1021 00:54:46,021 --> 00:54:49,730 Somebody knew somebody that I cared about 1022 00:54:49,813 --> 00:54:51,813 well enough to get close to them 1023 00:54:51,896 --> 00:54:54,604 that they would never breathe another day, 1024 00:54:54,688 --> 00:54:57,021 and that, you know, it sticks with you. 1025 00:54:58,646 --> 00:55:00,953 It could've been anybody. 1026 00:55:06,646 --> 00:55:11,146 DARRYL MASSEY: In the 72-hour window after the victim was found, 1027 00:55:11,475 --> 00:55:16,771 I will say there wasn't any particular person of interest. 1028 00:55:17,835 --> 00:55:21,104 I think the trend and the culture of everybody believing 1029 00:55:21,187 --> 00:55:24,104 the husband did it, the boyfriend did it, 1030 00:55:24,187 --> 00:55:27,437 if you get in that narrow path of thinking, 1031 00:55:28,234 --> 00:55:32,479 you only hurt yourself in an investigation. You really do. 1032 00:55:34,609 --> 00:55:37,859 LAURA: When we got news that they found Hae's body, 1033 00:55:38,765 --> 00:55:42,646 we asked who found her body, and they said a hiker. 1034 00:55:42,730 --> 00:55:44,855 And our immediate reaction, I remember, 1035 00:55:44,938 --> 00:55:49,980 is Krista was saying that... Then who's this hiker? 1036 00:55:50,062 --> 00:55:52,187 (WOMAN SPEAKING) 1037 00:55:57,602 --> 00:55:59,480 I have nothing to support... 1038 00:56:01,479 --> 00:56:03,271 that he didn't. 1039 00:56:03,354 --> 00:56:06,021 Don't think he wasn't looked at. 1040 00:56:07,980 --> 00:56:13,187 I certainly understood some prior documented issues, 1041 00:56:14,771 --> 00:56:18,359 but that in itself doesn't make him a killer. 1042 00:56:19,187 --> 00:56:21,396 It makes him an unusual person. 1043 00:56:21,479 --> 00:56:23,359 I always knew it had to be someone close to her, 1044 00:56:23,396 --> 00:56:24,855 because strangulation always is. 1045 00:56:24,938 --> 00:56:27,363 You know, it's not the kind of thing a complete stranger does, 1046 00:56:27,396 --> 00:56:29,241 unless it's a serial killer. 1047 00:56:30,187 --> 00:56:33,354 HOPE: Don was new to us, so he was a possibility. 1048 00:56:33,438 --> 00:56:36,604 And what does a man in his early 20s 1049 00:56:36,703 --> 00:56:38,288 want with a girl that young? 1050 00:56:54,730 --> 00:56:56,571 TYLER MARONEY: Let's talk about Don for a second. 1051 00:56:56,604 --> 00:56:58,479 And what makes him important. 1052 00:56:58,563 --> 00:57:00,021 TYLER: Well, you know, he's somebody 1053 00:57:00,104 --> 00:57:01,604 who was very close to the victim. 1054 00:57:01,688 --> 00:57:04,855 It's our responsibility as investigators to go beyond, 1055 00:57:04,938 --> 00:57:07,312 frankly, what law enforcement has already done 1056 00:57:07,396 --> 00:57:10,089 and to consider other suspects. 1057 00:57:11,589 --> 00:57:13,121 - Rabia. - Oh, hi. 1058 00:57:13,191 --> 00:57:14,863 - Tyler Maroney, nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you, too. 1059 00:57:14,896 --> 00:57:16,200 Thanks for coming all the way to New York. 1060 00:57:16,233 --> 00:57:17,692 Oh gosh, not at all. I'm so excited. 1061 00:57:18,896 --> 00:57:20,936 LUKE: The failure to investigate Don more thoroughly 1062 00:57:20,980 --> 00:57:23,271 just really stands out as a major mistake. 1063 00:57:23,885 --> 00:57:26,550 RABIA: I never thought about him over all these years, to be honest. 1064 00:57:26,583 --> 00:57:30,744 - Why? - Because I thought he was at work. 1065 00:57:33,586 --> 00:57:35,419 We know that Hae spent the evening with him 1066 00:57:35,479 --> 00:57:37,599 the night before, got home late at night. 1067 00:57:38,479 --> 00:57:40,396 According to Don he was supposed 1068 00:57:40,479 --> 00:57:42,669 to see her after work on the 13th. 1069 00:57:47,312 --> 00:57:49,521 He says he gets home around seven o'clock, 1070 00:57:49,604 --> 00:57:52,646 and when he gets home, the police has called looking for her. 1071 00:57:53,244 --> 00:57:55,730 The police don't get ahold of him until 1:30 that night. 1072 00:58:00,337 --> 00:58:01,947 TYLER: This is the first time that we know 1073 00:58:01,980 --> 00:58:05,271 that Don had contact with the police, right? 1074 00:58:05,354 --> 00:58:06,938 RABIA: That's a big gap. Where was he? 1075 00:58:07,021 --> 00:58:08,730 What was he doing in that whole time? 1076 00:58:08,813 --> 00:58:12,074 Why didn't he try to contact her or call the police back? 1077 00:58:13,604 --> 00:58:16,016 RABIA: In that time period, the police did start 1078 00:58:16,050 --> 00:58:17,396 canvasing parking lots. 1079 00:58:21,855 --> 00:58:25,058 They even contacted Harford County, which is where Don lived, 1080 00:58:25,113 --> 00:58:28,021 and asked them to take a look for her car then. 1081 00:58:35,855 --> 00:58:38,011 Nobody had bothered, not even the police had bothered 1082 00:58:38,045 --> 00:58:39,896 to get his actual time sheets for that day. 1083 00:58:39,980 --> 00:58:43,354 These weren't retrieved until October of that year 1084 00:58:43,438 --> 00:58:44,730 by Adnan's attorney. 1085 00:58:45,348 --> 00:58:48,987 When they also produced that to the prosecutor, 1086 00:58:49,062 --> 00:58:51,312 it came with a letter that said 1087 00:58:51,396 --> 00:58:54,187 that Don's mother is his manager. 1088 00:58:56,146 --> 00:58:59,104 His alibi was really his mom. 1089 00:59:00,604 --> 00:59:02,855 These things kind of cumulatively make me suspicious, 1090 00:59:02,938 --> 00:59:04,571 but, you know, I have to keep pulling myself back, 1091 00:59:04,604 --> 00:59:06,697 because I know that when you look at something in hindsight, 1092 00:59:06,730 --> 00:59:08,303 - which is what happened with Adnan... - Yeah. 1093 00:59:08,336 --> 00:59:10,596 ...people thought, oh okay, now that he's been arrested, 1094 00:59:10,646 --> 00:59:12,577 oh, that was kind of suspicious and that was kind of sus... 1095 00:59:12,610 --> 00:59:15,405 But there's also the fact that there's a witness at the school, 1096 00:59:15,438 --> 00:59:17,021 a classmate of Hae's, 1097 00:59:17,365 --> 00:59:20,563 who says that she saw Hae before she was leaving school 1098 00:59:20,646 --> 00:59:22,604 and that she had told her she was going 1099 00:59:22,688 --> 00:59:24,261 to meet with Don at the mall. 1100 00:59:25,166 --> 00:59:28,450 It made Debbie suspicious enough of Don that she actually 1101 00:59:28,513 --> 00:59:31,122 started kind of... she wanted to investigate him herself. 1102 00:59:31,855 --> 00:59:34,896 And this is in police statements. She told police she did this. 1103 00:59:41,438 --> 00:59:43,730 DEBBIE: Somehow I got in touch with him online. 1104 00:59:43,813 --> 00:59:45,121 That was our initial contact. 1105 00:59:45,176 --> 00:59:46,856 And he was eager to give me his information 1106 00:59:46,896 --> 00:59:49,438 and talk to me and everything. He was very open. 1107 00:59:53,805 --> 00:59:55,946 Pretty much everything after that was telephone. 1108 00:59:57,646 --> 01:00:00,521 You know, I just tried to find out how much he cared about her, 1109 01:00:00,604 --> 01:00:02,396 what he knew about her disappearance. 1110 01:00:02,479 --> 01:00:03,863 And I don't recall when it was we had 1111 01:00:03,896 --> 01:00:06,146 that seven-hour conversation, but we did. 1112 01:00:07,246 --> 01:00:09,187 It was spring break and my sister was 1113 01:00:09,271 --> 01:00:11,104 attending College Park, she lived on campus. 1114 01:00:11,187 --> 01:00:12,826 I was going to go stay with her for that whole week. 1115 01:00:12,859 --> 01:00:15,604 So I had told, you know, told Don all of this and he, 1116 01:00:15,688 --> 01:00:18,771 you know, oh, let me come visit you while I'm there. So, okay. 1117 01:00:19,035 --> 01:00:20,613 I guess it was that evening that was the first time 1118 01:00:20,646 --> 01:00:22,637 he had really expressed, like, romantic interest. 1119 01:00:23,229 --> 01:00:25,271 And it was kind of odd. I didn't really know 1120 01:00:25,354 --> 01:00:26,980 what to do with that. But, um, you know, 1121 01:00:27,069 --> 01:00:29,440 he made it very clear that that's what he was interested in. 1122 01:00:30,149 --> 01:00:34,032 And I guess to some extent I went along with it for some time, um... 1123 01:00:36,187 --> 01:00:39,438 but you know, I... I did make it clear to him that I was not, 1124 01:00:39,521 --> 01:00:43,730 you know, sexual... that that, you know, not something... 1125 01:00:44,636 --> 01:00:46,688 Not something we were going to be involved in. 1126 01:00:46,771 --> 01:00:48,688 How that all ended up playing out, I just... 1127 01:00:48,771 --> 01:00:50,321 My mind completely blocks it off after that. 1128 01:00:50,354 --> 01:00:52,312 I don't... I don't have much recollection. 1129 01:00:53,646 --> 01:00:56,082 I wasn't sure if he was, you know, 1130 01:00:56,116 --> 01:00:59,646 trying to recapture what he had with Hae in some way. 1131 01:01:01,354 --> 01:01:03,479 (DON SPEAKING) 1132 01:01:46,466 --> 01:01:49,146 (WOMAN SPEAKING) 1133 01:01:49,229 --> 01:01:54,730 Well, I knew... That was a learned fact. 1134 01:01:54,813 --> 01:01:57,565 Don't think he didn't go uninvestigated. 1135 01:01:58,112 --> 01:02:00,438 (WOMAN SPEAKING) 1136 01:02:01,730 --> 01:02:03,938 Would a mother lie for him? Sure. 1137 01:02:05,563 --> 01:02:08,646 He could've caught equal attention 1138 01:02:08,730 --> 01:02:10,813 that the defendant did, 1139 01:02:10,896 --> 01:02:14,360 but he didn't have any phone calls come in about him. 1140 01:02:16,855 --> 01:02:20,204 It's the 12th of February, 1999. 1141 01:02:21,146 --> 01:02:23,938 I'm in the office and I answered the phone. 1142 01:02:24,021 --> 01:02:26,354 It was an anonymous caller. 1143 01:02:26,438 --> 01:02:29,450 An Asian male, probably Korean, said, 1144 01:02:29,724 --> 01:02:32,438 "You should concentrate on the victim's boyfriend." 1145 01:02:33,730 --> 01:02:36,013 Well, you know his name? Yeah. 1146 01:02:36,075 --> 01:02:38,021 And that's when he provides the name. 1147 01:02:38,104 --> 01:02:39,688 (KEYBOARD CLACKING) 1148 01:02:40,391 --> 01:02:43,396 Once the information started flowing in, 1149 01:02:43,479 --> 01:02:46,104 you gotta go where it takes you. 1150 01:02:47,438 --> 01:02:50,021 I write up my report and I contact MacGillivary, 1151 01:02:50,104 --> 01:02:51,771 the primary investigator, 1152 01:02:52,004 --> 01:02:55,771 to take this information and try to corroborate it. 1153 01:03:01,386 --> 01:03:05,187 DET. MACGILLIVARY: Progress report, Lee homicide investigation, 1154 01:03:05,271 --> 01:03:07,813 Detective Gregory S. MacGillivary. 1155 01:03:08,488 --> 01:03:12,175 On February 26th, along with Detective William F. Ritz, 1156 01:03:12,277 --> 01:03:14,730 I interviewed one Adnan Syed 1157 01:03:14,813 --> 01:03:17,855 at the family home in the presence of his father. 1158 01:03:18,061 --> 01:03:20,342 When asked if Syed had a relationship with Lee, 1159 01:03:20,397 --> 01:03:23,604 Syed replied in a soft voice, yes. 1160 01:03:23,688 --> 01:03:26,938 However, he didn't want his father to know. 1161 01:03:27,021 --> 01:03:29,097 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): The only thing I was concerned about was 1162 01:03:29,130 --> 01:03:31,563 just not meeting in front of my mom and dad. 1163 01:03:31,646 --> 01:03:33,363 And they were asking me questions, but they were 1164 01:03:33,396 --> 01:03:35,747 just like pretty general and vague questions. 1165 01:03:36,106 --> 01:03:40,104 MACGILLIVARY: On January 13th, he had occasion to be at Woodlawn High School, 1166 01:03:40,218 --> 01:03:42,135 however, doesn't remember the events 1167 01:03:42,187 --> 01:03:44,083 that occurred in school that day. 1168 01:03:45,567 --> 01:03:46,683 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): If you didn't do anything, 1169 01:03:46,716 --> 01:03:48,321 then what is there to worry about in a sense? 1170 01:03:48,354 --> 01:03:50,954 I don't have to account for anything because I didn't do anything. 1171 01:03:52,187 --> 01:03:55,190 MACGILLIVARY: Syed indicated that he had occasions to be a passenger 1172 01:03:55,224 --> 01:03:59,458 in the victim's auto, however, not on the date in question. 1173 01:04:01,938 --> 01:04:03,947 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): I know there's things that don't look good for me, 1174 01:04:03,980 --> 01:04:06,036 you know, and this is one of them, but 1175 01:04:06,122 --> 01:04:09,224 to be honest, I have no idea how to explain that then. 1176 01:04:10,216 --> 01:04:13,021 MACGILLIVARY: A formal interview will be conducted in the near future, 1177 01:04:13,104 --> 01:04:15,521 - investigation to continue. - (TAPE RECORDER CLICKS) 1178 01:04:17,229 --> 01:04:18,822 TANVEER: That night I remember my parents 1179 01:04:18,855 --> 01:04:20,563 were yelling at my brother like, 1180 01:04:20,645 --> 01:04:22,566 well, if you didn't date that girl we wouldn't have this problem. 1181 01:04:22,599 --> 01:04:24,929 You know, I was like, Adnan, you know, 1182 01:04:24,963 --> 01:04:27,674 if you have anything to do with this, you need to get an attorney. 1183 01:04:27,768 --> 01:04:30,039 He was just so lax, like, okay, you know, 1184 01:04:30,073 --> 01:04:33,698 in this justice system, you are innocent until proven guilty. 1185 01:04:34,471 --> 01:04:36,279 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): I tend to look back on these things, 1186 01:04:36,312 --> 01:04:37,855 and they have a little more meaning 1187 01:04:37,938 --> 01:04:39,620 than they did back then, right? 1188 01:04:40,526 --> 01:04:42,312 I wish I knew what I knew back then, 1189 01:04:42,396 --> 01:04:44,609 it's like I would've taken it way more seriously. 1190 01:04:44,643 --> 01:04:46,604 Like, I have to account for what I was doing. 1191 01:04:46,688 --> 01:04:48,688 I have to be prepared. 1192 01:04:48,771 --> 01:04:51,146 Never in a million years would I have imagined 1193 01:04:51,236 --> 01:04:53,480 that I would be charged with Hae's murder. 1194 01:04:58,689 --> 01:05:00,065 (POLICE RADIO CHATTER) 1195 01:05:00,128 --> 01:05:01,655 TANVEER: In the morning, you know, I woke up 1196 01:05:01,688 --> 01:05:03,396 to these people talking in the hallway, 1197 01:05:03,479 --> 01:05:05,855 and it was a police officer standing in my doorway. 1198 01:05:05,929 --> 01:05:09,270 - (SIREN BLARES) - SHAMIM: My older son, he woke up 1199 01:05:09,313 --> 01:05:11,187 and he tried to get up, so he push him back. 1200 01:05:11,271 --> 01:05:13,771 He said, no, you go back, because he was afraid, you know, 1201 01:05:13,855 --> 01:05:15,062 he was going to see him 1202 01:05:15,146 --> 01:05:17,146 handcuffing his brother and take him. 1203 01:05:17,229 --> 01:05:18,896 SYED: Unbelievable. 1204 01:05:19,744 --> 01:05:24,312 When a son has never given you a problem in 17 years, 1205 01:05:24,533 --> 01:05:26,146 and all of a sudden, 1206 01:05:26,799 --> 01:05:30,896 he's being told that he has done such a wrong thing. 1207 01:05:31,783 --> 01:05:33,530 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): They put me in the back of a police car. 1208 01:05:33,563 --> 01:05:36,052 I said, ma'am, can I ask you what this is all about? 1209 01:05:36,086 --> 01:05:38,382 And she said, they'll tell you down at the station. 1210 01:05:39,984 --> 01:05:41,576 NEWSWOMAN: Eyewitness news was there tonight 1211 01:05:41,609 --> 01:05:44,354 when family members first found out about the teen's arrest, 1212 01:05:44,438 --> 01:05:48,479 an arrest that Lee's family says brings them much-needed peace. 1213 01:05:52,597 --> 01:05:54,479 RABIA: I remember the exact picture that I saw. 1214 01:05:54,563 --> 01:05:56,957 It's his black and white picture and he has a little bit of a mustache. 1215 01:05:56,990 --> 01:05:58,691 And you can't even absorb this 'cause I'm just... 1216 01:05:58,724 --> 01:06:02,896 I'm seeing arrest, murder, Adnan Syed. 1217 01:06:02,980 --> 01:06:05,024 He's a sensitive guy. He's gentle. 1218 01:06:05,058 --> 01:06:06,688 He has no kind of delinquency record. 1219 01:06:06,771 --> 01:06:08,438 He's not violent. He's just a kid. 1220 01:06:08,521 --> 01:06:10,859 He's a baby. He's like my little brother. 1221 01:06:11,526 --> 01:06:13,113 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): When I got to the police station, 1222 01:06:13,146 --> 01:06:15,050 they put me in like a little room. 1223 01:06:16,410 --> 01:06:18,914 I sat there for a while. It could've been five minutes, 1224 01:06:18,948 --> 01:06:20,917 it could've been five hours. 1225 01:06:21,323 --> 01:06:24,521 The two detectives came in, Ritz and MacGillivary. 1226 01:06:24,604 --> 01:06:26,396 They said, you know why you're here. 1227 01:06:26,479 --> 01:06:28,146 You're being charged with Hae's murder. 1228 01:06:29,142 --> 01:06:31,538 At some point, they mentioned Jay's name, 1229 01:06:31,572 --> 01:06:34,062 like Jay told us or Jay's going to say 1230 01:06:34,146 --> 01:06:35,813 that you did this or did that. 1231 01:06:35,896 --> 01:06:38,166 And I was just thinking, Jay? Jay who? 1232 01:06:38,235 --> 01:06:39,931 The only Jay I know is Jay Wilds. 1233 01:06:39,986 --> 01:06:41,791 What does that have to do with anything? 1234 01:06:42,564 --> 01:06:44,655 I was thinking, like, the charges would just be dropped, 1235 01:06:44,688 --> 01:06:46,525 like this is some huge mistake. 1236 01:06:46,611 --> 01:06:49,439 Like, how am I going to explain this on my college application? 1237 01:06:50,330 --> 01:06:51,866 Do people at school believe this? 1238 01:06:51,900 --> 01:06:54,025 Like, it's going to be so weird. 1239 01:06:54,896 --> 01:06:57,845 LAURA: When they arrested him, it felt like 1240 01:06:57,970 --> 01:06:59,650 they gotta have the wrong guy. 1241 01:07:00,430 --> 01:07:04,009 When you hear, like, he strangled her, 1242 01:07:04,681 --> 01:07:05,975 if he did what he did, 1243 01:07:06,009 --> 01:07:08,730 then who's the person that I saw everyday in class? 1244 01:07:10,311 --> 01:07:12,680 ADNAN (OVER PHONE): Finding out that Hae died, it was like 1245 01:07:12,714 --> 01:07:14,855 an unstoppableforce of, like, sadness and grief. 1246 01:07:14,945 --> 01:07:17,160 But then to be arrested for it? 1247 01:07:18,104 --> 01:07:20,813 It's almost like there's a flood outside your house, 1248 01:07:20,896 --> 01:07:22,626 before you can even come to terms with that, 1249 01:07:22,660 --> 01:07:24,730 now there's a fire inside your house. 1250 01:07:25,816 --> 01:07:28,563 You don't really have time to come to terms with anything. 1251 01:07:28,646 --> 01:07:30,521 You're just trying to survive. 1252 01:07:34,396 --> 01:07:36,688 NEWSWOMAN: Convicted murderer Adnan Syed 1253 01:07:36,771 --> 01:07:39,896 is getting a second chance to prove his innocence. 1254 01:07:40,855 --> 01:07:42,396 NEWSMAN: Syed won a motion to appeal 1255 01:07:42,479 --> 01:07:44,396 and present new evidence to fight his case. 1256 01:07:45,730 --> 01:07:47,890 NEWSWOMAN: The hearing is scheduled to last three days. 1257 01:07:47,938 --> 01:07:50,354 It will determine whether Syed's conviction 1258 01:07:50,438 --> 01:07:53,771 will be overturned or if the case will be retried. 1259 01:07:59,646 --> 01:08:02,206 - YUSUF: Man, Rabia I feel very excited. - RABIA: You feel good? 1260 01:08:02,271 --> 01:08:04,730 SHAMIM: Can you believe, I mean, three days will decide 1261 01:08:04,813 --> 01:08:07,271 if Adnan going to come home or stay. 1262 01:08:08,771 --> 01:08:11,271 How important it is, you know. 1263 01:08:12,312 --> 01:08:14,521 YUSUF: Yeah, but, inshallah, he's coming home. 1264 01:08:14,604 --> 01:08:16,813 I don't know. I just feel it in my heart. 1265 01:08:20,354 --> 01:08:23,563 NEWSMAN: Syed's bid to be retried hinges on two arguments: 1266 01:08:23,653 --> 01:08:27,212 that his attorney failed to use alibi witness Asia McClain, 1267 01:08:27,267 --> 01:08:29,447 who said she was with Syed the day of the murder, 1268 01:08:29,533 --> 01:08:31,376 and that a cell phone expert, who helped 1269 01:08:31,410 --> 01:08:33,345 place Syed's phone where Lee was buried, 1270 01:08:33,396 --> 01:08:36,727 now says his findings were based on unreliable data. 1271 01:08:37,532 --> 01:08:40,479 Anyone can critique what you did, 1272 01:08:40,563 --> 01:08:42,604 but we were working in real time. 1273 01:08:43,415 --> 01:08:46,028 You may not have dotted all the I's, 1274 01:08:46,104 --> 01:08:49,396 but arrest, the bar is not as high. 1275 01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:54,029 We're looking for 51 percent for arrest, 1276 01:08:55,646 --> 01:08:58,146 and a hundred percent for conviction. 1277 01:09:07,604 --> 01:09:09,813 ("GREAT WAVES" BY DIRTY THREE PLAYING) 1278 01:09:24,938 --> 01:09:30,187 ♪ Last boat, stand in a river ♪ 1279 01:09:30,271 --> 01:09:35,438 ♪ Muddy river, how I love her ♪ 1280 01:09:35,528 --> 01:09:40,611 ♪ Hawk flying is fooling his folly ♪ 1281 01:09:40,688 --> 01:09:46,021 ♪ Gas hurricanes spray over Heaven ♪ 1282 01:09:49,062 --> 01:09:51,438 ♪ Weeping willow... ♪ 106121

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