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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:28,396 --> 00:00:30,064 Get him! Get him! 2 00:00:31,932 --> 00:00:32,900 Ready! 3 00:00:34,602 --> 00:00:36,070 You're going down. Set. Hike. 4 00:00:47,781 --> 00:00:48,716 Damn. 5 00:00:48,849 --> 00:00:50,718 Did that hurt? 6 00:00:50,851 --> 00:00:54,688 Get up, you ain't no carpet king, you're a queen. 7 00:00:54,822 --> 00:00:56,056 Get up! 8 00:00:57,225 --> 00:00:58,292 Time-out. 9 00:00:58,426 --> 00:00:59,793 Get up, man. 10 00:01:00,694 --> 00:01:02,230 I think his nose is broke. 11 00:01:02,363 --> 00:01:05,499 You can get him for me. Finish this thing off. 12 00:01:05,633 --> 00:01:07,235 You gonna finish the game. 13 00:01:07,368 --> 00:01:10,371 Next touchdown wins, we got the ball, so you man up. 14 00:01:10,504 --> 00:01:11,772 I'm a little banged up here. 15 00:01:11,905 --> 00:01:13,607 You know why you got 25 years? 16 00:01:13,741 --> 00:01:15,276 Yeah, because I refused to testify 17 00:01:15,409 --> 00:01:17,111 against anybody whose last name ended in a vowel. 18 00:01:17,245 --> 00:01:20,814 No, you got 25 years because you're a quitter. 19 00:01:20,948 --> 00:01:23,317 When things get tough, you look for shortcuts. You quit. 20 00:01:23,451 --> 00:01:26,187 You quit on your family, you quit on your friends, 21 00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:27,755 you quit on God. 22 00:01:27,888 --> 00:01:30,858 And that's because you ain't got no heart. 23 00:01:30,991 --> 00:01:32,460 Yeah, that's right, I called you a quitter. 24 00:01:32,593 --> 00:01:34,728 What you gonna do about it? 25 00:01:34,862 --> 00:01:37,998 If that don't sit well with you, prove me wrong. 26 00:01:40,734 --> 00:01:48,709 Barry Minkow, for once in your life, don't take a shortcut. 27 00:01:48,842 --> 00:01:51,212 Take the pain and help this team win. 28 00:01:51,345 --> 00:01:57,518 Well, you know, I think we're all born with certain genes. 29 00:01:57,651 --> 00:01:59,320 I think Barry was missing one. 30 00:01:59,453 --> 00:02:01,589 It's got to be something deep-seated in Barry. 31 00:02:01,722 --> 00:02:04,792 Barry did what he did. I mean, nobody really put him up to it. 32 00:02:04,925 --> 00:02:06,760 Barry could convince anybody of anything, 33 00:02:06,894 --> 00:02:08,696 and he was very, very good at it. 34 00:02:08,829 --> 00:02:10,431 From the moment he shook my hand... 35 00:02:10,564 --> 00:02:11,932 He's a sociopath. 36 00:02:12,065 --> 00:02:15,503 I thought this was the entrepreneur of the year. 37 00:02:15,636 --> 00:02:18,306 He was almost incapable of not lying. 38 00:02:18,439 --> 00:02:20,241 And, you know, I give him credit for this 39 00:02:20,374 --> 00:02:22,410 tremendous scam that he pulled at that time. 40 00:02:22,543 --> 00:02:23,744 He had so much charisma... 41 00:02:23,877 --> 00:02:25,913 I've never seen anybody like Barry. 42 00:02:26,046 --> 00:02:29,116 ...that you believed everything. Everything. 43 00:02:29,250 --> 00:02:30,918 He could sell ice to Eskimos. 44 00:02:31,051 --> 00:02:33,954 Barry reinvented himself. 45 00:02:34,087 --> 00:02:38,091 You know, for a young guy, it was pretty amazing what he pulled off. 46 00:02:38,226 --> 00:02:40,494 He didn't want his lights turned off. 47 00:02:42,162 --> 00:02:44,031 He didn't want to be his dad. 48 00:02:45,333 --> 00:02:47,401 - Hey, pally boy. - Hey, Pop. 49 00:02:50,671 --> 00:02:52,072 How'd you do today? 50 00:02:53,407 --> 00:02:54,942 Ah, not bad. 51 00:02:55,075 --> 00:02:59,780 Outfitted the YMCA down the street with a half a dozen gym fans. 52 00:02:59,913 --> 00:03:01,181 Half a dozen? 53 00:03:01,315 --> 00:03:04,184 Good thing it gets hot in the Valley, huh? 54 00:03:04,318 --> 00:03:05,886 That's pretty good, right? 55 00:03:08,188 --> 00:03:10,391 Let me give you some advice, kiddo. 56 00:03:10,524 --> 00:03:14,262 Never work for somebody else if you can help it. 57 00:03:17,398 --> 00:03:19,800 Now get in the house and wash up. 58 00:03:26,574 --> 00:03:27,641 Move. Jeez. 59 00:03:27,775 --> 00:03:29,310 Go away. 60 00:03:29,443 --> 00:03:31,111 My commission check is gonna be larger this week. 61 00:03:31,245 --> 00:03:33,013 Enough to pay the gas bill? 62 00:03:34,515 --> 00:03:35,616 It'll be fine. 63 00:03:35,749 --> 00:03:37,318 Mom said no MTV. 64 00:03:37,451 --> 00:03:38,319 Ow! 65 00:03:38,452 --> 00:03:40,220 Knock it off! Shut up. 66 00:03:40,354 --> 00:03:42,923 What are you talking about? I'm doing the best I can. 67 00:03:45,426 --> 00:03:47,328 They do this every night. When is this going to stop? 68 00:03:47,461 --> 00:03:52,366 When someone in this family figures outhow to earn some real money. 69 00:03:52,500 --> 00:03:54,034 That was it. He wanted to make money and that was it. 70 00:03:54,167 --> 00:03:55,536 He wanted millions. 71 00:03:55,669 --> 00:03:56,604 That's what drove him. 72 00:03:56,737 --> 00:03:58,105 He wanted the girls. 73 00:03:58,238 --> 00:04:00,308 He wanted people to love and adore him. 74 00:04:00,441 --> 00:04:04,244 And the girls only wanted you if you had a red Ferrari. 75 00:04:19,493 --> 00:04:20,928 Hi, Mindy. 76 00:04:21,729 --> 00:04:23,964 Hi... Barry. 77 00:04:29,370 --> 00:04:30,971 I'm telling you, man, I'm making things change. 78 00:04:31,104 --> 00:04:32,573 That so, big guy? 79 00:04:32,706 --> 00:04:34,308 Yeah, that's so. Check it out. 80 00:04:37,845 --> 00:04:39,179 When'd that happen? 81 00:04:39,313 --> 00:04:41,248 That's five days a week for three months at the gym. 82 00:04:44,352 --> 00:04:47,888 See, look, I might not have Matt Maple's money. 83 00:04:48,021 --> 00:04:49,357 I can't throw a football like Bobby Biddelo. 84 00:04:49,490 --> 00:04:51,925 No. But I can look like Lou Ferrigno. 85 00:04:52,059 --> 00:04:53,494 I'm going after the three Ps, Mikey. 86 00:04:53,627 --> 00:04:55,262 What are the three Ps? 87 00:04:55,396 --> 00:05:00,968 Position plus possession equals popularity. 88 00:05:02,836 --> 00:05:03,837 I'm gonna build a new Barry. 89 00:05:05,406 --> 00:05:07,575 Well, how's all this supposed to happen? 90 00:05:07,708 --> 00:05:10,310 I'm gonna start a business, I'm gonna keep working out, 91 00:05:10,444 --> 00:05:12,513 I'm gonna make a ton of money 92 00:05:12,646 --> 00:05:15,182 and then I'm gonna have everything that I want. 93 00:05:17,418 --> 00:05:19,487 He wanted to be a star. 94 00:05:19,620 --> 00:05:22,490 It could have been a fabulous story. 95 00:05:28,929 --> 00:05:31,499 Barry! Get to it! 96 00:05:31,632 --> 00:05:34,702 See, the way it goes is you work off your membership fee 97 00:05:34,835 --> 00:05:37,605 by working off your membership fee. 98 00:05:52,352 --> 00:05:54,455 Hi, Mom. 99 00:05:54,588 --> 00:05:56,590 Excuse me, could you just hold on for one second. 100 00:05:56,724 --> 00:05:58,325 I'll be right back with you. 101 00:05:58,459 --> 00:06:00,728 Sweetheart, listen, I heard on your last run 102 00:06:00,861 --> 00:06:02,095 you brought the degreaser, you brought the sanitizer, 103 00:06:02,229 --> 00:06:03,397 but, Barry, you forgot the... 104 00:06:03,531 --> 00:06:04,898 Scotchgard. Scotchgard. 105 00:06:05,032 --> 00:06:06,634 You can never, never forget that. I know. 106 00:06:06,767 --> 00:06:09,570 Barry, we want to sell Scotchgard. Scotchgard. I know. 107 00:06:09,703 --> 00:06:12,372 Listen, you gotta get on this one, kiddo. You're a terrific worker 108 00:06:12,506 --> 00:06:14,174 but I don't want my boss to think... Excuse me... 109 00:06:14,307 --> 00:06:15,676 You don't want your boss to think... 110 00:06:15,809 --> 00:06:17,010 I just don't want my boss to think 111 00:06:17,144 --> 00:06:18,378 that you're just here because of me. 112 00:06:18,512 --> 00:06:19,947 That would be terrible. That would be nepotism. 113 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,348 I'm a good worker. Just... 114 00:06:21,482 --> 00:06:23,451 Yeah, go back and work. Go, go, go. 115 00:06:23,584 --> 00:06:25,018 Sorry. 116 00:06:27,721 --> 00:06:28,689 Hello? 117 00:06:35,028 --> 00:06:36,564 Whoa. 118 00:06:36,697 --> 00:06:37,998 That guy juices. 119 00:06:39,099 --> 00:06:41,401 What, you mean steroids? 120 00:06:41,535 --> 00:06:44,538 No, like, I think he drinks a lot of V8. 121 00:06:44,672 --> 00:06:46,373 Yeah, I mean steroids. 122 00:06:48,776 --> 00:06:50,277 Awesome. 123 00:06:57,918 --> 00:06:59,820 Hey, how do you get so big? 124 00:06:59,953 --> 00:07:01,555 How do you think? 125 00:07:03,524 --> 00:07:05,125 Is there... 126 00:07:05,258 --> 00:07:08,596 Is there any way I could buy some 'roids off of you? 127 00:07:08,729 --> 00:07:10,998 How you gonna pay, kid? 128 00:07:11,131 --> 00:07:14,267 I got a part-time job cleaning carpets. I can pay. 129 00:07:17,204 --> 00:07:19,573 I'll tell you what. I'll swap you. 130 00:07:19,707 --> 00:07:23,611 A carpet cleaning for some 'roids. 131 00:07:25,078 --> 00:07:26,413 Deal. 132 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,516 We're done, kid. 133 00:07:33,921 --> 00:07:35,689 Nice job, kid. 134 00:07:36,857 --> 00:07:38,258 Definitely worth some of these. 135 00:07:43,463 --> 00:07:44,832 Thanks. 136 00:07:44,965 --> 00:07:46,366 Hey, um... 137 00:07:46,500 --> 00:07:48,268 Hey, what is all this stuff? 138 00:07:48,401 --> 00:07:50,037 Just call it my inventory. 139 00:07:50,170 --> 00:07:52,773 Ah. Gotcha. 140 00:07:54,675 --> 00:07:58,746 Yeah, as soon as I figure out how to get my own steam cleaner, 141 00:07:58,879 --> 00:08:00,247 I'm gonna go into business for myself. 142 00:08:00,380 --> 00:08:02,983 How much do one of them things cost? 143 00:08:03,116 --> 00:08:04,652 Like a thousand bucks. 144 00:08:04,785 --> 00:08:06,219 Tell you what. 145 00:08:13,393 --> 00:08:17,230 A thousand cash for equipment. Six bills for capital. 146 00:08:20,834 --> 00:08:22,269 Now you're in business, kid. 147 00:08:25,505 --> 00:08:26,506 Um... 148 00:08:29,977 --> 00:08:31,779 Oh, you'll pay me back. 149 00:08:31,912 --> 00:08:34,514 Interest only. $200 a week. 150 00:08:34,648 --> 00:08:37,250 What are you, some kind of loan shark? 151 00:08:37,384 --> 00:08:40,020 I'm a businessman, kid. 152 00:08:40,153 --> 00:08:41,689 You want in? 153 00:08:43,023 --> 00:08:45,993 Yeah. Yeah, I want in. 154 00:09:45,352 --> 00:09:47,054 Yes, hello, there. 155 00:09:47,187 --> 00:09:51,692 I just had my carpets cleaned by this company called ZZZZ Best. 156 00:09:51,825 --> 00:09:55,528 It's owned by this wonderful kid who is only 16. 157 00:09:55,663 --> 00:09:57,665 You should do a story on him. 158 00:09:57,798 --> 00:10:02,369 All I see on the news are stories about kids on drugs and in gangs. 159 00:10:02,502 --> 00:10:06,173 This young man is a role model. 160 00:10:06,306 --> 00:10:08,075 What's that? 161 00:10:08,208 --> 00:10:10,010 All right. 162 00:10:10,143 --> 00:10:12,312 Yes, ZZZZ Best. 163 00:10:12,445 --> 00:10:14,547 Four Zs. With four Zs. 164 00:10:14,682 --> 00:10:18,786 Okay. Thank you. Goodbye. 165 00:10:18,919 --> 00:10:22,222 Thank you, Grandma. You're the best. 166 00:10:22,355 --> 00:10:24,324 What, you can't stay and visit? 167 00:10:24,457 --> 00:10:25,492 I wish I could. I've got so much to do. 168 00:10:25,625 --> 00:10:27,327 But I'll come by later. 169 00:10:27,460 --> 00:10:29,462 Can you make me some of that spaghetti that you make so good? 170 00:10:29,596 --> 00:10:31,298 With the meatballs, too. 171 00:10:31,431 --> 00:10:35,268 I'm just so proud of my son. He did this all himself. 172 00:10:35,402 --> 00:10:37,370 Can you make sure the sign is in the shot? 173 00:10:37,504 --> 00:10:38,906 So, what's Barry's secret? 174 00:10:39,039 --> 00:10:41,308 Well, he's always been highly motivated. 175 00:10:41,441 --> 00:10:44,311 Dad, stop. No false modesty, son. 176 00:10:44,444 --> 00:10:47,815 I'd like to take this opportunity and offer anyone who's watching 177 00:10:47,948 --> 00:10:50,350 a 50% discount if they come down, right now. 178 00:10:50,483 --> 00:10:52,385 I will clean your carpets personally. 179 00:10:52,519 --> 00:10:53,754 Dad will even help too! Do you see what I'm talking about? 180 00:10:53,887 --> 00:10:56,523 I mean, he's brilliant! Barry Minkow. 181 00:10:59,292 --> 00:11:00,761 Hey, Barry. 182 00:11:02,362 --> 00:11:03,864 Yo, Barr! 183 00:11:04,497 --> 00:11:06,700 Barry, my man! 184 00:11:06,834 --> 00:11:08,601 Hey, carpet dude! 185 00:11:14,574 --> 00:11:15,909 Hi. Hey. 186 00:11:22,215 --> 00:11:23,250 Well, do you like your meal? 187 00:11:23,383 --> 00:11:25,118 It was really good. 188 00:11:25,252 --> 00:11:26,586 Are you ready to go? Yeah. 189 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,588 I don't really like horror movies that much, 190 00:11:28,722 --> 00:11:32,125 but do you wanna see Blade Runner with me this weekend? 191 00:11:32,259 --> 00:11:34,394 Yeah? Awesome. 192 00:11:36,496 --> 00:11:38,698 Two hundred and forty bucks! 193 00:11:38,832 --> 00:11:41,468 Don't sweat it, man. Business is good! 194 00:11:41,601 --> 00:11:43,036 But you're doing this every weekend. 195 00:11:43,170 --> 00:11:46,206 Okay, will you look around you for a second? 196 00:11:46,339 --> 00:11:48,108 Dude, 197 00:11:48,241 --> 00:11:53,680 I'm finally in. We are finally in. It's totally worth it. 198 00:12:00,353 --> 00:12:03,423 You can't do this to me. I haven't done anything wrong. 199 00:12:03,556 --> 00:12:06,426 Barry. Sit down. 200 00:12:12,866 --> 00:12:16,269 We didn't realize that you were underage. 201 00:12:16,403 --> 00:12:17,771 In the state of California, 202 00:12:17,905 --> 00:12:19,639 the signature card that opens a checking account, 203 00:12:19,773 --> 00:12:22,042 it's a legally binding document. 204 00:12:22,175 --> 00:12:23,376 It's a contract. 205 00:12:23,510 --> 00:12:25,412 And you cannot sign a legally binding 206 00:12:25,545 --> 00:12:27,414 business check if you're only 16. 207 00:12:27,547 --> 00:12:31,251 Now, like I said, if you want to get your father in here to co-sign... 208 00:12:31,384 --> 00:12:32,820 My father? 209 00:12:34,421 --> 00:12:36,689 It's my company, okay? 210 00:12:36,824 --> 00:12:38,558 I started this thing, not my dad. 211 00:12:38,691 --> 00:12:40,527 You know this! Barry, listen. 212 00:12:40,660 --> 00:12:43,797 I'm not one to stifle entrepreneurship. 213 00:12:43,931 --> 00:12:47,634 I'm impressed with what you've accomplished, believe me. 214 00:12:47,767 --> 00:12:50,103 But this is the way the system works. 215 00:12:50,237 --> 00:12:52,472 Now, I have no choice but to close your account immediately 216 00:12:52,605 --> 00:12:54,842 and return all outstanding checks. 217 00:12:55,943 --> 00:12:58,378 You said you were impressed by me. Right? 218 00:13:02,015 --> 00:13:04,952 Then why can't you make an exception for me? 219 00:13:05,085 --> 00:13:06,019 I'm sorry, kid. 220 00:13:06,153 --> 00:13:07,720 You've seen what I've done. 221 00:13:07,855 --> 00:13:11,224 I really am. I wish it didn't have to be this way. 222 00:13:11,358 --> 00:13:13,626 But the rules are the rules. 223 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,795 You can't break the rules. 224 00:13:17,965 --> 00:13:19,066 Look at me, kid. 225 00:13:19,199 --> 00:13:22,102 I can't let you bounce checks on me. 226 00:13:22,235 --> 00:13:23,904 I know. 227 00:13:24,037 --> 00:13:25,939 And I've been lettin' you skate. 228 00:13:29,709 --> 00:13:33,146 You owe me 800 bucks. 229 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:34,147 I know. 230 00:13:34,281 --> 00:13:35,782 I know. Look, Victor, man, 231 00:13:35,916 --> 00:13:37,750 you know I'm in trouble with these checking accounts. 232 00:13:37,885 --> 00:13:41,821 Okay? I would have to be crazy to try to screw you. 233 00:13:41,955 --> 00:13:45,358 I wouldn't even be in business if it wasn't for you, man. 234 00:13:45,492 --> 00:13:47,127 I owe you big. 235 00:13:49,796 --> 00:13:53,233 All I got to my name is 20 bucks. Just take it. 236 00:13:53,366 --> 00:13:54,601 Okay, enough. 237 00:13:57,170 --> 00:13:58,972 Okay, look. 238 00:13:59,106 --> 00:14:01,508 You pay me $500 cash by Friday, 239 00:14:01,641 --> 00:14:05,045 I let the other $300 slide for one more week. 240 00:14:05,178 --> 00:14:06,446 You got it? 241 00:14:06,579 --> 00:14:07,847 Thank you. 242 00:14:07,981 --> 00:14:10,417 Thank you, man. I won't let you down. 243 00:14:10,550 --> 00:14:11,885 I promise. 244 00:14:13,253 --> 00:14:14,754 You better not. 245 00:14:30,270 --> 00:14:32,472 Mr. Barry. 246 00:14:32,605 --> 00:14:34,441 Ron, I need a money order 247 00:14:34,574 --> 00:14:37,177 for Sparkle Janitorial Supply for 500 bucks. 248 00:14:37,310 --> 00:14:38,645 Coming right up. 249 00:14:47,787 --> 00:14:49,389 Hey, Ron, you got a delivery! 250 00:14:49,522 --> 00:14:51,258 Hey, Barry, give me one sec. I'll be right back. 251 00:14:51,391 --> 00:14:52,825 Yeah, yeah. 252 00:15:24,524 --> 00:15:26,293 Oh, God! 253 00:15:36,636 --> 00:15:37,971 Barry, you feeling all right? 254 00:15:38,105 --> 00:15:40,974 Yeah... No, no, I'm good, I'm good. 255 00:16:22,182 --> 00:16:24,417 I saw you on the news. You're an impressive young man, Barry. 256 00:16:24,551 --> 00:16:26,019 How can I help you? 257 00:16:26,153 --> 00:16:29,156 Mr. Fitzgerald, I've been to every bank n the area 258 00:16:29,289 --> 00:16:31,591 and no one will open a business checking account for me 259 00:16:31,724 --> 00:16:32,992 because they say I'm too young. 260 00:16:33,126 --> 00:16:34,961 Funny thing is, I already had one open 261 00:16:35,095 --> 00:16:37,730 for over half a year before anyone ever found out my age. 262 00:16:37,864 --> 00:16:41,668 I would have thought that I had proven my ability to be responsible. 263 00:16:41,801 --> 00:16:46,206 You don't impress me as being too young. You seem pretty mature. 264 00:16:46,339 --> 00:16:48,341 I get that all the time. 265 00:16:48,475 --> 00:16:50,143 Look, Mr. Fitzgerald, 266 00:16:51,311 --> 00:16:53,012 I've started a good business. 267 00:16:53,146 --> 00:16:54,547 And I know what I'm capable of. 268 00:16:54,681 --> 00:16:55,982 I mean, I already have seven employees, 269 00:16:56,116 --> 00:16:58,585 all of whom are paying taxes on their wages. 270 00:16:58,718 --> 00:17:00,353 I'm simply a victim of my age. 271 00:17:00,487 --> 00:17:01,721 Well put. 272 00:17:01,854 --> 00:17:06,626 I just need someone to take a small risk 273 00:17:06,759 --> 00:17:08,261 and put a little trust in me. 274 00:17:13,433 --> 00:17:15,402 Fine. I'll take the chance. 275 00:17:15,535 --> 00:17:19,906 But you'll need to keep me updated twice a week on ZZZZ Best's status. 276 00:17:20,039 --> 00:17:23,710 Even though every newspaper and TV show is keeping me posted. 277 00:17:23,843 --> 00:17:25,645 Here, I want you to sign the bottom here. 278 00:17:25,778 --> 00:17:28,081 Of course. I'll fill in the rest, okay? 279 00:17:32,652 --> 00:17:33,853 Thank you. Congratulations. 280 00:17:33,986 --> 00:17:35,555 I won't let you down. 281 00:17:43,130 --> 00:17:44,931 What is this? 282 00:17:45,064 --> 00:17:47,066 What do you think, huh? What is this? 283 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:48,201 What? 284 00:17:49,702 --> 00:17:51,070 Dude! 285 00:17:51,204 --> 00:17:53,072 What is this? Come on, baby. 286 00:17:53,206 --> 00:17:54,441 Jump in, let's go for a spin. What? 287 00:17:54,574 --> 00:17:56,443 How... 288 00:17:56,576 --> 00:17:59,946 How did you afford this, man? We're not making any profits. 289 00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:01,748 Don't have to afford it. 290 00:18:01,881 --> 00:18:03,983 Just gotta cover the monthly payments. 291 00:18:05,418 --> 00:18:07,687 Look, it's all about appearances, my man. 292 00:18:07,820 --> 00:18:13,160 The way you look is the way the world thinks you are. 293 00:18:13,293 --> 00:18:15,027 Speaking of appearances, 294 00:18:15,162 --> 00:18:17,364 there's a misprint in the Yellow Pages ad. 295 00:18:17,497 --> 00:18:20,867 It says, "Serving the area for over 10 years." 296 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,602 That's not a misprint. 297 00:18:22,735 --> 00:18:24,771 It's a business tactic. 298 00:18:24,904 --> 00:18:27,774 Everybody does it. Nobody is going to check. 299 00:18:27,907 --> 00:18:29,242 What do they have to check? 300 00:18:29,376 --> 00:18:30,877 What, you think anyone is gonna believe 301 00:18:31,010 --> 00:18:34,414 you started the business when you were six years old? 302 00:18:34,547 --> 00:18:36,349 That's ambitious, man. 303 00:18:36,483 --> 00:18:39,852 Must have been tough balancing nap time and making payroll. 304 00:18:39,986 --> 00:18:42,622 You wanna think? Or you wanna drive? 305 00:18:42,755 --> 00:18:44,056 Let's drive, man. 306 00:18:48,094 --> 00:18:49,662 Fastest car on the market. 307 00:18:52,098 --> 00:18:53,065 Hold on. 308 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:06,045 I can't stay ahead of expenses no matter how much business I bring in. 309 00:19:06,179 --> 00:19:07,747 Victor's payments are killing me. 310 00:19:17,790 --> 00:19:19,759 Mikey... 311 00:19:19,892 --> 00:19:22,462 Mikey, Mikey, Mikey, Mikey. Check this out. 312 00:19:22,595 --> 00:19:24,731 Yeah. What? 313 00:19:24,864 --> 00:19:26,866 Look at this. Look, the checks... 314 00:19:29,436 --> 00:19:32,339 The checks from the NorthRidge account haven't cleared yet. 315 00:19:32,472 --> 00:19:34,040 All right? 316 00:19:34,173 --> 00:19:37,710 So if I write a check from that account into the second account, 317 00:19:37,844 --> 00:19:40,179 I can cover my shortage until I can deposit more customer checks. 318 00:19:40,313 --> 00:19:41,714 And then I just run it the other way 319 00:19:41,848 --> 00:19:43,082 when the NorthRidge account is short. 320 00:19:43,216 --> 00:19:44,817 Then I never have to keep the full amount 321 00:19:44,951 --> 00:19:46,719 as long as I deposit the new money in time. 322 00:19:46,853 --> 00:19:48,755 Yeah. That's called check kiting. 323 00:19:48,888 --> 00:19:50,189 Really? 324 00:19:51,157 --> 00:19:52,259 I thought I made that up. 325 00:19:52,392 --> 00:19:53,626 No, you did not. 326 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:54,861 Anyways, anyways, it doesn't matter. 327 00:19:54,994 --> 00:19:56,296 Yeah, it does, it's illegal. 328 00:19:56,429 --> 00:19:57,196 It doesn't matter. 329 00:19:57,330 --> 00:19:58,598 It's only temporary. 330 00:19:58,731 --> 00:20:00,433 It's only until I can square things up. 331 00:20:00,567 --> 00:20:02,034 'Cause kids, during the summertime, are gonna work cheap. 332 00:20:02,168 --> 00:20:03,336 I can go after more customers, 333 00:20:03,470 --> 00:20:04,904 I can do more advertising and then... 334 00:20:05,037 --> 00:20:06,038 And then I can pay it all off... 335 00:20:06,172 --> 00:20:07,307 It's gonna cost you more money. 336 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:08,941 I can pay it all off! 337 00:20:14,347 --> 00:20:15,982 Everything's gonna be fine. 338 00:20:36,536 --> 00:20:37,870 Mikey! 339 00:20:39,806 --> 00:20:41,207 You're late. 340 00:20:42,575 --> 00:20:45,211 I know. I know. I was at Victor's. Sorry. 341 00:20:45,345 --> 00:20:47,246 I had to pick up some company letterhead. 342 00:20:47,380 --> 00:20:48,981 Letterhead? Yeah, yeah. 343 00:20:49,115 --> 00:20:51,484 You know, for corporate documents, that kind of thing. 344 00:20:51,618 --> 00:20:53,886 Did you get another loan? 345 00:20:54,020 --> 00:20:56,122 What do you mean, did I get another loan? 346 00:20:56,255 --> 00:20:57,824 What do you mean, what do I mean? 347 00:20:57,957 --> 00:21:00,059 You got another loan? How much was it? Yes. Yes. 348 00:21:00,192 --> 00:21:03,496 Four grand. But it's not a big deal. Interest is like $500 a week. 349 00:21:03,630 --> 00:21:05,131 $500 a week! Barry... Okay, hear me out. Hear me out. 350 00:21:05,264 --> 00:21:06,766 No, no, no. Give me your hand. 351 00:21:06,899 --> 00:21:10,136 What? Half the reason I got the loan 352 00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:13,573 is because I think that you 353 00:21:16,042 --> 00:21:17,777 deserve a bonus. 354 00:21:17,910 --> 00:21:19,412 Really? Yeah, really. 355 00:21:19,546 --> 00:21:21,814 Come on, man. You work your butt off. 356 00:21:21,948 --> 00:21:24,451 I just want you to know I appreciate you. 357 00:21:24,584 --> 00:21:28,655 Go take out that cute little girl I saw you with last week. 358 00:21:28,788 --> 00:21:30,089 I... 359 00:21:31,157 --> 00:21:33,826 I think you're gonna like this place. 360 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,161 All right. 361 00:22:00,653 --> 00:22:01,921 Beats the garage, huh? 362 00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:05,024 It's awesome, man. 363 00:22:05,157 --> 00:22:06,693 Hey, Barry. 364 00:22:06,826 --> 00:22:08,127 I'm up here, Pop. 365 00:22:15,001 --> 00:22:16,268 Well... 366 00:22:17,537 --> 00:22:19,205 Very nice. 367 00:22:21,741 --> 00:22:23,342 Impressive. 368 00:22:24,677 --> 00:22:25,612 Son... 369 00:22:26,846 --> 00:22:28,581 You know I am so proud of you. 370 00:22:30,082 --> 00:22:33,019 But I don't want you to get in any trouble. 371 00:22:33,152 --> 00:22:35,121 And I just feel like... 372 00:22:36,222 --> 00:22:37,457 You're in over your head. 373 00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:40,527 Dad, don't tell me how to run my business. 374 00:22:40,660 --> 00:22:42,795 No, no, no. Your whole life you've played it safe, okay? 375 00:22:42,929 --> 00:22:44,363 I'm taking my shot here. 376 00:22:49,702 --> 00:22:50,970 Hey... 377 00:22:51,103 --> 00:22:54,507 Why don't you come work for ZZZZ Best? 378 00:22:54,641 --> 00:22:57,644 You can build up my commercial accounts. 379 00:22:57,777 --> 00:23:00,346 I'll match your salary at Windy City with a better commission. 380 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,881 I don't think that's the best idea. 381 00:23:02,014 --> 00:23:03,349 Come on, Dad. You've always been at jobs 382 00:23:03,483 --> 00:23:05,184 that didn't require any talent. 383 00:23:07,954 --> 00:23:10,222 Come work for me. Show me what you can do. 384 00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:22,502 Come here. 385 00:23:23,870 --> 00:23:25,304 Son... 386 00:23:33,379 --> 00:23:34,413 Hey, Dad? 387 00:23:35,982 --> 00:23:37,316 You start work Monday. 388 00:23:40,219 --> 00:23:41,754 See you later, Mr. Minkow. 389 00:23:41,888 --> 00:23:43,723 Yeah, see you, boys. 390 00:23:46,158 --> 00:23:48,928 That's our new commercial manager. 391 00:23:49,061 --> 00:23:50,229 You have a sec? Yeah. 392 00:23:55,067 --> 00:23:56,402 Look at that. 393 00:23:57,504 --> 00:23:58,505 So... 394 00:23:58,638 --> 00:24:01,741 I might not be smart enough to get it, 395 00:24:01,874 --> 00:24:06,513 but Victor doesn't sell cleaning equipment, right? 396 00:24:06,646 --> 00:24:08,981 No, but the banks and insurance companies 397 00:24:09,115 --> 00:24:10,282 don't need to know that. 398 00:24:11,283 --> 00:24:12,752 Right, so... 399 00:24:12,885 --> 00:24:17,890 We purchased 10 Crowell Triple-Vac Dual Pump... 400 00:24:18,024 --> 00:24:20,226 Water-heated steam cleaners. 401 00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:25,064 I don't know that brand. 402 00:24:26,265 --> 00:24:28,134 That's 'cause they don't exist. 403 00:24:30,036 --> 00:24:31,270 Sounds good though, right? 404 00:24:34,073 --> 00:24:35,307 Yeah. 405 00:24:36,676 --> 00:24:38,110 Sounds good. 406 00:24:39,145 --> 00:24:40,613 Hey, Mike. 407 00:24:40,747 --> 00:24:42,114 From now on... 408 00:24:42,248 --> 00:24:44,416 "Mr. Minkow." 409 00:24:47,153 --> 00:24:49,121 Hey! If that isn't the little... 410 00:24:49,255 --> 00:24:52,024 Look at you! Not so little anymore. What happened to you? 411 00:24:52,158 --> 00:24:54,026 Hey, Uncle Joe. 412 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,362 Look at you. Trying to look like you. 413 00:24:56,495 --> 00:24:58,598 I should be so lucky. 414 00:24:58,731 --> 00:25:03,002 Damn! Come here, I want to show you something. Watch your step. 415 00:25:03,135 --> 00:25:05,137 What... What happened to this place? 416 00:25:05,271 --> 00:25:06,873 Well, this one was a flood. 417 00:25:07,006 --> 00:25:09,108 Hard to imagine you could do anything with this, huh? 418 00:25:09,241 --> 00:25:11,678 It smells like the inside of a Halloween costume. 419 00:25:13,312 --> 00:25:15,948 This is called restoration work. 420 00:25:16,082 --> 00:25:17,316 Fires, floods... 421 00:25:17,449 --> 00:25:19,218 The insurance companies contract it out 422 00:25:19,351 --> 00:25:22,955 to restore it and make it new again. 423 00:25:23,089 --> 00:25:26,225 Big money. Big money. 424 00:25:26,358 --> 00:25:28,595 This could be your future. 425 00:25:28,728 --> 00:25:30,697 Come on. I want to show you something. 426 00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:41,407 Wow. This is amazing. Mmm-hmm. 427 00:25:41,540 --> 00:25:46,579 Before and after. Not bad for three weeks' work, huh? 428 00:25:46,713 --> 00:25:50,249 Look. Uncle Joe, I appreciate you bringing me out here, 429 00:25:50,382 --> 00:25:53,720 but I'm just a carpet cleaner. 430 00:25:53,853 --> 00:25:58,424 Yeah. So was I when I started 35 years ago. 431 00:25:58,557 --> 00:26:03,095 You know, all the carpet companies out there... 432 00:26:03,229 --> 00:26:05,064 All your competitors, they all advertise 433 00:26:05,197 --> 00:26:07,266 for one big thing that you don't. 434 00:26:07,399 --> 00:26:09,869 Emergency water damage restoration. 435 00:26:12,839 --> 00:26:14,373 Water heater busts in the house, 436 00:26:14,506 --> 00:26:16,408 water floods the carpets everywhere. 437 00:26:16,542 --> 00:26:18,077 The first people called are the carpet cleaners 438 00:26:18,210 --> 00:26:19,979 who come in and extract the water. 439 00:26:20,112 --> 00:26:23,482 Bingo! And you make millions. 440 00:26:25,251 --> 00:26:30,189 If you're ever interested in that kinda thing, just let me know. 441 00:26:30,322 --> 00:26:32,258 I'll help you find some work. 442 00:26:50,142 --> 00:26:51,778 Are you insane? 443 00:26:52,745 --> 00:26:54,681 You can't open another office. 444 00:26:54,814 --> 00:26:56,649 Barry, you think that I don't know that you're kiting checks again? 445 00:26:56,783 --> 00:26:58,951 This company is hanging on by a thread. 446 00:26:59,085 --> 00:27:00,687 Relax. And we both know... 447 00:27:00,820 --> 00:27:03,690 Relax! Okay? Everybody cheats a little bit. It's not a big deal. 448 00:27:03,823 --> 00:27:05,057 It's a big deal. It is a big deal. 449 00:27:05,191 --> 00:27:06,959 It's not. It's not a big deal! 450 00:27:07,093 --> 00:27:10,396 Okay? I had to expand to generate more cash to catch up on my... 451 00:27:10,529 --> 00:27:13,199 Barry, you can't run one office on... Do not... 452 00:27:13,332 --> 00:27:17,036 Do not raise your... Barry! 453 00:27:17,169 --> 00:27:19,872 Do not raise your voice at me. 454 00:27:25,277 --> 00:27:27,814 It's settled. All right? 455 00:27:30,683 --> 00:27:32,819 I already got the location picked out. 456 00:27:38,590 --> 00:27:40,993 Look, everybody thinks I'm some kind of hotshot now, man. 457 00:27:43,229 --> 00:27:45,932 Barry Minkow, the young entrepreneur. 458 00:27:48,267 --> 00:27:49,936 I gotta keep that going. 459 00:27:50,937 --> 00:27:52,671 Mike, it's who I am now. 460 00:28:15,327 --> 00:28:20,166 With the debts and the divorce, I really need the extra income. 461 00:28:20,299 --> 00:28:22,001 Great. Happy to help. 462 00:28:23,736 --> 00:28:25,471 Now, I need you to mock up a few documents 463 00:28:25,604 --> 00:28:28,941 for a bloated insurance company. So, don't feel bad. 464 00:28:29,075 --> 00:28:31,577 Feeling bad was not something I was factoring in. 465 00:28:34,380 --> 00:28:35,815 You do have the cash, right? 466 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,295 You're sure this was one of your competitors? 467 00:29:23,429 --> 00:29:24,496 Yeah. 468 00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:25,731 What did they steal? 469 00:29:25,865 --> 00:29:28,500 Four Crowell Triple Vac steam cleaners. 470 00:29:28,634 --> 00:29:30,669 Yeah, but Barry, even at 1,500 a piece, 471 00:29:30,803 --> 00:29:32,038 that doesn't equal $12,000. 472 00:29:32,171 --> 00:29:33,139 Water damage. 473 00:29:34,073 --> 00:29:35,207 "Water damage"? 474 00:29:35,341 --> 00:29:36,775 Yeah. 475 00:29:36,909 --> 00:29:39,511 See, when they broke in, they set off the sprinklers, 476 00:29:39,645 --> 00:29:40,880 which caused water damage. 477 00:29:41,013 --> 00:29:43,382 These guys are trying to put me out of business! 478 00:29:43,515 --> 00:29:45,384 But we fixed it. 479 00:29:45,517 --> 00:29:47,453 Because that's what we do. 480 00:29:48,855 --> 00:29:50,722 It's expensive. Really? 481 00:29:50,857 --> 00:29:53,092 Yeah, it's called "restoration work." 482 00:29:53,225 --> 00:29:54,827 In fact, ZZZZ Best is going to 483 00:29:54,961 --> 00:29:56,162 be awarded out more restoration jobs 484 00:29:56,295 --> 00:29:57,429 from other big companies 485 00:29:57,563 --> 00:29:59,866 as early as next week and that... 486 00:29:59,999 --> 00:30:01,968 That's where the real growth opportunities are 487 00:30:02,101 --> 00:30:03,769 in the carpet-cleaning industry. 488 00:30:15,447 --> 00:30:19,251 I think a little toast is in order for the man of the hour. 489 00:30:19,385 --> 00:30:22,021 Dad, come on. No, no, no. 490 00:30:22,154 --> 00:30:25,524 Here's to Barry on your 18th birthday. 491 00:30:25,657 --> 00:30:30,496 You're an adult, well, legally anyway. 492 00:30:30,629 --> 00:30:33,765 Now, you can get married, even join the army 493 00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:36,135 with or without our permission. To my son, Barry... 494 00:30:36,268 --> 00:30:37,904 I am sorry to interrupt, 495 00:30:38,037 --> 00:30:41,073 but you know how it is when your father tries to be funny. 496 00:30:41,207 --> 00:30:43,042 Right... 497 00:30:43,175 --> 00:30:47,146 But I would like to say something. I'd like to toast you, Barry. 498 00:30:49,648 --> 00:30:55,054 I am so proud of your success. 499 00:30:57,456 --> 00:30:58,824 Thank you, Mom. 500 00:31:02,061 --> 00:31:04,130 Cheers. To ZZZZ Best, son. 501 00:31:04,263 --> 00:31:05,932 Cheers, guys. Mazel tov. 502 00:31:13,539 --> 00:31:15,507 And so, as we look forward 503 00:31:15,641 --> 00:31:17,543 to the excitement of new lives, 504 00:31:17,676 --> 00:31:19,211 we, the fresh-faced class... 505 00:31:19,345 --> 00:31:21,613 Man, I feel like I don't even know you anymore. 506 00:31:23,382 --> 00:31:25,517 Come on. Yeah you do, Mikey. 507 00:31:25,651 --> 00:31:30,122 Same old Barry. I'm just a regular business now, that's all. 508 00:31:30,256 --> 00:31:33,525 But like Icarus, who flew too high to the sun, 509 00:31:33,659 --> 00:31:35,527 we need to keep watch, 510 00:31:35,661 --> 00:31:38,564 to keep level and not let the temptations of our new freedom 511 00:31:38,697 --> 00:31:40,432 be the end of us. 512 00:31:40,566 --> 00:31:42,701 Come on. 513 00:31:42,834 --> 00:31:43,970 Who doesn't cheat on their taxes 514 00:31:44,103 --> 00:31:45,437 or inflate an insurance claim? 515 00:31:45,571 --> 00:31:47,974 Can we just enjoy graduation? 516 00:31:48,107 --> 00:31:51,443 I applaud you fellow students on this day of rebirth... 517 00:31:51,577 --> 00:31:53,479 The answer is, everyone. 518 00:31:53,612 --> 00:31:55,081 And nobody gets hurt, all right? 519 00:31:55,214 --> 00:31:58,050 So, don't come at me with that self-righteous attitude. 520 00:31:58,184 --> 00:32:02,288 In fact, I think I deserve a little thanks. 521 00:32:04,090 --> 00:32:06,458 Really. You're running flush now because of me. 522 00:32:06,592 --> 00:32:09,561 Congratulations to the class of 1984! 523 00:32:35,421 --> 00:32:36,788 Damn it. 524 00:33:26,438 --> 00:33:27,906 Hey, it's your favorite uncle. 525 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,241 Hey, Uncle Joe. How are you? 526 00:33:29,375 --> 00:33:31,277 I'm good, kid. Listen. 527 00:33:31,410 --> 00:33:34,046 I'm out there in the business community and I'm hearing things. 528 00:33:34,180 --> 00:33:37,183 Like you're expanding too fast and you can't possibly be profitable. 529 00:33:37,316 --> 00:33:39,551 Uncle Joe, that's just jealous people 530 00:33:39,685 --> 00:33:42,054 using their stories as an excuse for their mediocrity. 531 00:33:42,188 --> 00:33:44,823 Yeah, yeah. I'm hearing that, too. See? 532 00:33:44,956 --> 00:33:46,925 Okay. All right. But be careful. 533 00:33:47,059 --> 00:33:50,162 You have to be a little bit of a thief in business, I know that. 534 00:33:50,296 --> 00:33:52,631 But you don't want to become a thief. 535 00:33:52,764 --> 00:33:55,901 Then you're not in business anymore, you're just a crook. 536 00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:02,007 There's a project over in Tarzana 537 00:34:02,141 --> 00:34:04,076 and I have an interested buyer. 538 00:34:04,210 --> 00:34:06,345 He won't close on the sale until I fix a rip in the carpet. 539 00:34:06,478 --> 00:34:07,646 I'll get someone right on it. 540 00:34:07,779 --> 00:34:09,315 No, no. He wants you. 541 00:34:09,448 --> 00:34:12,151 He wants to meet the millionaire kid success story. 542 00:34:12,284 --> 00:34:15,754 Just be careful. I hear this guy's connected. A real Mafioso. 543 00:34:15,887 --> 00:34:17,123 I mean it. 544 00:34:20,426 --> 00:34:22,861 I read about you in the Examiner, didn't I? 545 00:34:24,663 --> 00:34:25,931 Yeah, yeah. 546 00:34:26,064 --> 00:34:28,334 Joe says you're a pro. 547 00:34:28,467 --> 00:34:29,835 That's my Uncle Joe. 548 00:34:32,671 --> 00:34:35,006 How do you do that, Barry? 549 00:34:35,941 --> 00:34:39,077 Pull down a profit like that? 550 00:34:39,211 --> 00:34:40,779 Cleaning carpet? 551 00:34:42,348 --> 00:34:43,749 I never heard of that. 552 00:34:45,484 --> 00:34:49,855 Well, Jack, the real money, it's not in the carpet cleaning. 553 00:34:49,988 --> 00:34:52,090 It's in these things called restoration jobs. 554 00:34:52,224 --> 00:34:53,392 Oh, yeah? 555 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,428 Like cleaning up after an old fire? 556 00:34:56,562 --> 00:34:58,063 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 557 00:34:58,197 --> 00:35:01,300 Um, the jobs, they come in through... 558 00:35:01,433 --> 00:35:03,001 Through these insurance adjusters. 559 00:35:03,135 --> 00:35:05,171 My company, ZZZZ Best, we got, like... 560 00:35:05,304 --> 00:35:07,406 We got three of these jobs lined up right now. 561 00:35:07,539 --> 00:35:08,940 But I plan on expanding, 562 00:35:09,074 --> 00:35:13,579 because each job contract is worth about 25 grand. 563 00:35:13,712 --> 00:35:15,381 That must be nice. 564 00:35:15,514 --> 00:35:17,783 Yeah, yeah. It's really nice. 565 00:35:17,916 --> 00:35:19,117 You know, you have these huge buildings 566 00:35:19,251 --> 00:35:21,753 with these complex sprinkler systems 567 00:35:21,887 --> 00:35:25,023 and they go off inadvertently, causing floods. 568 00:35:25,157 --> 00:35:27,393 You know, and it's expensive to fix. 569 00:35:29,328 --> 00:35:32,631 If I had the money, there's no limit to what I could do. 570 00:35:32,764 --> 00:35:35,100 How much? A hundred grand. 571 00:35:37,068 --> 00:35:40,005 A hundred grand? Just for clean 572 00:35:40,138 --> 00:35:41,907 No, no. It's much more than that. 573 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,377 It's extracting the water, dehumidifying the area, 574 00:35:45,511 --> 00:35:47,313 you know, padding and tack strips, mold treatment. 575 00:35:47,446 --> 00:35:49,881 You see, all this requires money, lots of money, 576 00:35:50,015 --> 00:35:51,917 and these worthless insurance companies, 577 00:35:52,050 --> 00:35:54,486 they're notoriously slow for these large payouts. 578 00:35:54,620 --> 00:35:58,023 And see, that's what sets me apart from my competition. 579 00:35:58,156 --> 00:36:00,492 Look, Jack, how many carpet cleaners 580 00:36:00,626 --> 00:36:03,061 do you know in this business that are well 581 00:36:03,195 --> 00:36:06,632 How much are you gonna pull down right now? 582 00:36:06,765 --> 00:36:08,767 With these restorations? 583 00:36:08,900 --> 00:36:12,204 These three? Eighty grand. Profit. 584 00:36:13,939 --> 00:36:17,309 It's good. So give me proof. 585 00:36:17,443 --> 00:36:18,410 Proof? 586 00:36:18,544 --> 00:36:19,545 Yeah, proof of the jobs, huh? 587 00:36:19,678 --> 00:36:21,079 A little accountability. You know? 588 00:36:21,213 --> 00:36:23,615 I mean, I'll come in right now. Fifty grand cash. 589 00:36:23,749 --> 00:36:25,951 You need money, I'll raise money, you know. 590 00:36:26,084 --> 00:36:29,755 I'll talk to friends. It's all numbers, Barry. 591 00:36:29,888 --> 00:36:31,156 "Numbers"? It's just numbers. 592 00:36:31,290 --> 00:36:34,660 Yeah, yeah, numbers. It's all numbers. 593 00:36:34,793 --> 00:36:37,296 We come in, 594 00:36:37,429 --> 00:36:40,732 we come in for a lot more than a hundred, you know. 595 00:36:40,866 --> 00:36:42,133 A lot more. 596 00:36:44,002 --> 00:36:47,205 We split profit, you know? 50/50. 597 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,008 "50/50"? 598 00:36:51,243 --> 00:36:55,213 All the jobs. If you're interested. 599 00:36:58,216 --> 00:37:02,521 Yeah. Yeah! Yeah, of course, I'm interested. 600 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,998 The proof, the documents, I can bring those by tomorrow. 601 00:37:15,334 --> 00:37:16,435 You want a drink? 602 00:37:17,836 --> 00:37:19,971 Nah, I don't drink. 603 00:37:21,139 --> 00:37:24,410 Good for you. You're a smart kid. 604 00:37:31,517 --> 00:37:33,084 This is unacceptable. 605 00:37:33,218 --> 00:37:34,920 You don't understand. No, no, you don't understand. 606 00:37:35,053 --> 00:37:38,357 You got those credit card accounts because I vouched for you! 607 00:37:38,490 --> 00:37:40,726 Twenty-five thousand in fraudulent accounts! 608 00:37:40,859 --> 00:37:42,528 Look it wasn't me! I swear! 609 00:37:42,661 --> 00:37:43,729 Barry. 610 00:37:43,862 --> 00:37:45,597 It was crooked carpet cleaners! Look... 611 00:37:45,731 --> 00:37:48,367 They want me out of business... Keep it down. 612 00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:50,201 Look, they faked the credit card slips 613 00:37:50,336 --> 00:37:52,638 so they could double-bill the customers and make more money. 614 00:37:52,771 --> 00:37:54,272 What do you want me to do? 615 00:37:54,406 --> 00:37:56,107 I just found out about this last night. I already fired them. 616 00:37:56,241 --> 00:37:57,743 Were you planning on telling me? 617 00:37:57,876 --> 00:37:59,911 Yes... I guess... You guess? 618 00:38:00,045 --> 00:38:03,482 Yes, yes, yes. Of course I was planning on... 619 00:38:03,615 --> 00:38:07,152 Look, I'm a little over my head here, Bill. 620 00:38:07,285 --> 00:38:11,423 Mr. Fitzgerald, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 621 00:38:14,426 --> 00:38:15,894 All right. 622 00:38:18,897 --> 00:38:21,967 I can keep your accounts open for five business days. 623 00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:24,069 You deposit $10,000 at that time 624 00:38:24,202 --> 00:38:26,071 and the rest five days after that... 625 00:38:26,204 --> 00:38:27,305 I won't let you down. 626 00:38:27,439 --> 00:38:28,974 You better meet these deadlines, Barry. 627 00:38:29,107 --> 00:38:30,476 Otherwise, I will shut you down 628 00:38:30,609 --> 00:38:32,444 and I will bounce all your checks. 629 00:38:35,947 --> 00:38:37,383 This is a joke to you, huh? 630 00:38:41,219 --> 00:38:42,421 That would put me out of business. 631 00:38:42,554 --> 00:38:44,590 I know. So it should motivate you. 632 00:38:44,723 --> 00:38:46,191 Now, get the hell out of here. 633 00:38:55,233 --> 00:38:57,536 Hey, I need your help. 634 00:38:59,371 --> 00:39:02,874 Look, we need to find a way to fake some nonexistent restoration jobs. 635 00:39:03,008 --> 00:39:06,945 All right? I'm not talking about staging a phony break-in. 636 00:39:07,078 --> 00:39:12,718 I'm talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars in jobs that don't exist. 637 00:39:12,851 --> 00:39:14,252 Got any ideas? 638 00:39:14,386 --> 00:39:17,022 I can incorporate a phony adjusting firm. 639 00:39:18,857 --> 00:39:21,126 A phony adjusting firm. 640 00:39:23,495 --> 00:39:26,932 So, what, it would fake the jobs on the firm's letterhead? 641 00:39:27,065 --> 00:39:28,333 Yeah. 642 00:39:29,968 --> 00:39:33,138 That's great. That's great! Okay. 643 00:39:33,271 --> 00:39:35,073 And in the meantime, I'll work hard 644 00:39:35,206 --> 00:39:38,610 trying to get ZZZZ Best some legitimate claims to cover your back. 645 00:39:38,744 --> 00:39:41,046 I'll catch you in your office later. 646 00:39:41,179 --> 00:39:43,982 Okay, okay. Thank you. 647 00:39:44,115 --> 00:39:47,085 I really appreciate this. I wouldn't ask you if it wasn't life or death. 648 00:39:47,218 --> 00:39:49,655 I got 100 employees depending on me. 649 00:39:49,788 --> 00:39:51,056 Well, they're your problem. 650 00:39:51,189 --> 00:39:53,158 I'm just doing this for money, is all. 651 00:39:53,291 --> 00:39:54,560 As long as you do it. 652 00:40:06,004 --> 00:40:07,539 So, he's still standing there, 653 00:40:07,673 --> 00:40:09,675 in his underwear, holding an identical toothbrush. 654 00:40:09,808 --> 00:40:12,644 So, I tell the guy, as we always say at ZZZZ Best, 655 00:40:12,778 --> 00:40:15,481 "We don't just cut corners, we clean them." 656 00:40:19,551 --> 00:40:22,353 Can I trust him? Absolutely. 657 00:40:22,488 --> 00:40:25,256 So, let me explain to you how a restoration job works. 658 00:40:25,390 --> 00:40:26,825 All right, gorgeous woman. 659 00:40:26,958 --> 00:40:28,059 Come here. You be the building. 660 00:40:28,193 --> 00:40:29,394 Stand here next to me. All right? 661 00:40:29,528 --> 00:40:31,096 Come here! Come on. I'm... 662 00:40:46,311 --> 00:40:47,679 What about the Feds? 663 00:40:48,947 --> 00:40:50,248 Huh? 664 00:40:50,381 --> 00:40:52,584 Did they come see you yet? 665 00:40:52,718 --> 00:40:54,419 Who? The FBI. 666 00:40:56,421 --> 00:40:58,590 The FBI... No. No? 667 00:40:58,724 --> 00:41:00,291 No. 668 00:41:00,425 --> 00:41:06,164 Well... They might, you know. 669 00:41:06,297 --> 00:41:08,166 They'll probably pay you a visit. 670 00:41:09,835 --> 00:41:11,537 Ask questions about me. 671 00:41:13,171 --> 00:41:15,306 Well, if they do, just say nothing more 672 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,776 than our arrangement, you know? 673 00:41:19,244 --> 00:41:20,311 "Our arrangement"? 674 00:41:20,445 --> 00:41:22,313 Yeah, it's legitimate. 675 00:41:24,282 --> 00:41:26,151 You could prove that. 676 00:41:28,587 --> 00:41:30,155 Can't you? Yeah, yeah. 677 00:41:30,288 --> 00:41:32,758 Of course. Of course I can prove it. 678 00:42:13,999 --> 00:42:16,301 Hey, how you doing? 679 00:42:17,836 --> 00:42:19,404 How are you? Hi. 680 00:42:19,537 --> 00:42:23,575 Hi. Hey, baby. I got a present for you inside. Okay? 681 00:42:23,709 --> 00:42:25,911 Okay. I'll be in in a second. 682 00:42:30,015 --> 00:42:31,617 Can I help you? 683 00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:33,952 Yeah, you can. I'll introduce myself to you first. 684 00:42:34,085 --> 00:42:36,454 I'm Special Agent Gamble. FBI. 685 00:42:39,257 --> 00:42:40,759 That's your girlfriend? 686 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,664 Yeah. Very nice. Good luck. 687 00:42:45,797 --> 00:42:47,265 Thank you. 688 00:42:47,398 --> 00:42:52,804 Anyway, I'm here, I'm investigating a Jack... 689 00:42:52,938 --> 00:42:53,905 Saxon. 690 00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:56,574 Yes. Jack Saxon. 691 00:42:56,708 --> 00:42:58,343 I understand he's been shaking you down 692 00:42:58,476 --> 00:43:00,111 on some loan that he made you... 693 00:43:00,245 --> 00:43:02,047 He hasn't given me a loan, he's a business consultant. 694 00:43:02,180 --> 00:43:03,715 "Business consultant"? 695 00:43:07,352 --> 00:43:10,856 New house, huh? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 696 00:43:10,989 --> 00:43:14,893 Look, we'd like you to testify in a grand jury 697 00:43:15,026 --> 00:43:17,629 about your business deals with this Saxon. 698 00:43:19,665 --> 00:43:21,767 With all due respect, why would I testify against him? 699 00:43:21,900 --> 00:43:23,501 He's been nothing but a help to my company. 700 00:43:23,635 --> 00:43:25,070 I understand. It's not... 701 00:43:25,203 --> 00:43:26,938 Barry? Come on inside. 702 00:43:28,606 --> 00:43:30,375 Come on. 703 00:43:30,508 --> 00:43:33,779 Sorry. Duty calls. It was nice to meet you, Mr. Special Agent... 704 00:43:33,912 --> 00:43:35,380 Gamble. Gamble. 705 00:43:36,147 --> 00:43:38,216 Thank you, Mr. Mincow. 706 00:43:38,349 --> 00:43:40,218 It's Minkow. 707 00:43:40,351 --> 00:43:43,088 There was a cockiness, I was cocky. Barry was cocky. 708 00:43:43,221 --> 00:43:46,324 Everything we did just seemed to fall nto place. 709 00:43:46,457 --> 00:43:50,561 It was almost like we were beinglooked over by some guardian angel. 710 00:43:50,696 --> 00:43:53,264 In fact, there were more people that didn't believe Barry 711 00:43:53,398 --> 00:43:55,233 than the ones that did. 712 00:43:55,366 --> 00:43:56,968 But he only needed a couple. 713 00:43:57,102 --> 00:43:59,270 Altogether, I think the FBI said 714 00:43:59,404 --> 00:44:02,674 I created about 23,000 false documents 715 00:44:02,808 --> 00:44:05,744 to convince Wall Street, NASDAQ and the SEC 716 00:44:05,877 --> 00:44:09,580 that we were doing about $400 million worth of restoration work 717 00:44:09,715 --> 00:44:12,150 when in reality, we were doing none. 718 00:44:12,283 --> 00:44:13,584 Barry was working with 719 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,486 the investment banking firm of Payne Cameron 720 00:44:15,620 --> 00:44:17,422 to take ZZZZ Best public. 721 00:44:17,555 --> 00:44:22,560 However, Barry and Jack Saxon had a side scheme to pump and dump, 722 00:44:22,694 --> 00:44:24,996 acquiring ZZZZ Best stock at five cents apiece, 723 00:44:25,130 --> 00:44:29,367 selling at the market price and violating securities laws. 724 00:44:29,500 --> 00:44:32,738 The biggest scam we pulled off was the Sacramento job. 725 00:44:32,871 --> 00:44:36,207 Barry staged a walkthrough of a newly-restored office building 726 00:44:36,341 --> 00:44:37,976 to fool the Wall Street auditors 727 00:44:38,109 --> 00:44:39,544 into believing that ZZZZ Best 728 00:44:39,677 --> 00:44:41,546 had done all of the restoration work. 729 00:44:41,679 --> 00:44:44,115 We hadn't done any of that work. 730 00:44:44,249 --> 00:44:47,285 He even bribed the doorman a hundred bucks to make it look good. 731 00:44:47,418 --> 00:44:49,888 Hey, Mr. Minkow! Nice to see you again! 732 00:44:50,021 --> 00:44:52,323 Bob, how are you? How's the wife? Still alive. 733 00:44:52,457 --> 00:44:54,659 That's too bad. Say hi to the kids for me. 734 00:44:54,793 --> 00:44:56,427 You got it! 735 00:44:56,561 --> 00:44:59,697 Just like family. Everyone at ZZZZ Best is like family. 736 00:44:59,831 --> 00:45:03,101 A con man has a tremendous amount of charisma. 737 00:45:03,234 --> 00:45:04,803 Smell it and say to the woman, 738 00:45:04,936 --> 00:45:09,040 "Ma'am, that's not dog urine. That's your three-year-old." 739 00:45:09,174 --> 00:45:12,143 What's this ladder doing here? Mike, please find out who was here last. 740 00:45:12,277 --> 00:45:14,645 Doesn't even look like there was any water damage at all. 741 00:45:14,780 --> 00:45:16,848 Well, that's the point. 742 00:45:16,982 --> 00:45:20,018 See, he doesn't take your money. You give it to him. 743 00:45:20,151 --> 00:45:23,254 Gentlemen, attached, you will find our project summary. 744 00:45:23,388 --> 00:45:25,556 As you can see, we went with the cost-effective 745 00:45:25,690 --> 00:45:27,258 nylon carpet to save time, 746 00:45:27,392 --> 00:45:30,428 and, most importantly, your money. 747 00:45:31,963 --> 00:45:33,965 It's theft with a smile. 748 00:45:39,704 --> 00:45:42,841 Once the Wall Street auditors signed off on our financials, 749 00:45:42,974 --> 00:45:46,211 Payne Cameron took ZZZZ Best public. 750 00:45:46,344 --> 00:45:52,217 By the end of the day, we had a market cap of well over $300 million. 751 00:45:52,350 --> 00:45:55,153 Truth be told, we were worth almost nothing. 752 00:45:55,286 --> 00:45:58,356 This is tremendous. Where's Barry? Dad. 753 00:45:58,489 --> 00:45:59,991 Hey, Barry, we saw you on Oprah. 754 00:46:00,125 --> 00:46:01,993 Hey! I stole the show, right? Listen, I want Carson. 755 00:46:02,127 --> 00:46:04,796 I want to be on Johnny Carson! What's this? 756 00:46:04,930 --> 00:46:06,197 It's the Tribune! Read it! 757 00:46:06,331 --> 00:46:08,867 "Happy Birthday, Barry Minkow. 758 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,603 "Your stock is worth $100 million! 759 00:46:12,737 --> 00:46:15,673 "You control a $300 million public company"! 760 00:46:19,610 --> 00:46:21,379 Hey, everybody! Enough with this cheap stuff. 761 00:46:21,512 --> 00:46:23,081 Hey, you, I don't even know you. 762 00:46:23,214 --> 00:46:25,183 Go buy me the most expensive champagne you can find. 763 00:46:25,316 --> 00:46:26,351 Five hundred bottles. 764 00:46:26,484 --> 00:46:28,253 Drinks on me, everybody! 765 00:46:36,494 --> 00:46:38,864 So, you're the birthday kid, huh? 766 00:46:38,997 --> 00:46:40,398 Uh... 767 00:46:40,531 --> 00:46:44,335 I'm not a kid. All of these people here work for me. 768 00:46:44,469 --> 00:46:45,871 Well, I don't work for you. 769 00:46:47,638 --> 00:46:49,407 Okay, who are you? 770 00:46:49,540 --> 00:46:51,742 My name is Sam. 771 00:46:54,345 --> 00:46:56,347 Sam, that's a guy's name. 772 00:46:56,481 --> 00:46:58,016 You better be careful. 773 00:46:58,149 --> 00:47:02,053 I might just decide this party is a bore and leave. 774 00:47:02,187 --> 00:47:03,654 Who invited you? 775 00:47:05,056 --> 00:47:07,725 Happy birthday, Barry. See you later. 776 00:47:10,261 --> 00:47:11,429 Whoa. Babe. 777 00:47:11,562 --> 00:47:13,431 Dude, stop. Stop. 778 00:47:13,564 --> 00:47:15,033 Where's Mindy? 779 00:47:16,701 --> 00:47:18,636 Okay. Have a good night, buddy. 780 00:47:21,006 --> 00:47:24,009 You've got all these people fooled, don't ya? 781 00:47:26,677 --> 00:47:27,913 If you've got a problem with me, 782 00:47:28,046 --> 00:47:30,148 you canalways stop picking up your check. 783 00:47:30,281 --> 00:47:36,021 You can't have me fooled, Barry. You can't have me fooled. 784 00:47:36,154 --> 00:47:40,658 You know what the difference is between you and me, Mike? 785 00:47:40,791 --> 00:47:44,562 I lead. You follow. 786 00:47:44,695 --> 00:47:46,197 You're embarrassing. 787 00:48:01,612 --> 00:48:02,680 Baby. 788 00:48:02,813 --> 00:48:04,615 Hey, birthday boy. Close your eyes. 789 00:48:04,749 --> 00:48:06,484 Why? Close your eyes. 790 00:48:06,617 --> 00:48:08,119 Okay. 791 00:48:10,021 --> 00:48:11,289 What is this? 792 00:48:11,422 --> 00:48:14,025 A little toy for the love of my life. 793 00:48:14,159 --> 00:48:15,493 What? No. Wait, Barry. 794 00:48:15,626 --> 00:48:17,495 It's your birthday. It's not my birthday. 795 00:48:17,628 --> 00:48:18,997 Because I love you, that's why. 796 00:48:19,130 --> 00:48:20,131 What are you doing? 797 00:48:20,265 --> 00:48:21,699 Listen... Listen to me. Now. 798 00:48:21,832 --> 00:48:24,869 I want you to take your new car, grab a friend right now, 799 00:48:25,003 --> 00:48:26,737 and I want you to go for a little joyride, all right? 800 00:48:26,871 --> 00:48:29,274 And I don't want you come back until this is on empty. 801 00:48:29,407 --> 00:48:32,877 Right now? Right now! Right now. Go, go, go. 802 00:48:33,011 --> 00:48:35,813 Thank you. I love you. You're welcome. 803 00:48:56,501 --> 00:48:57,735 Hello there. 804 00:48:59,337 --> 00:49:00,972 What took you so long? 805 00:49:04,909 --> 00:49:08,179 It's my house, you wait for me. 806 00:49:08,313 --> 00:49:09,847 We'll see about that. 807 00:49:33,638 --> 00:49:36,607 Ma! What are you doing here? 808 00:49:36,741 --> 00:49:38,543 I'm sorry, I just wanted to see you. 809 00:49:38,676 --> 00:49:40,145 I wanted to congratulate you, 810 00:49:40,278 --> 00:49:42,780 but you were surrounded by so many presents and people, 811 00:49:42,913 --> 00:49:45,250 I didn't get a chance... I'm in the bathroom, for God sakes. 812 00:49:45,383 --> 00:49:50,721 But I wanted to congratulate you on, on the article. 813 00:49:50,855 --> 00:49:53,258 Dad give you that? Yeah. 814 00:49:53,391 --> 00:49:55,693 You come over to tell me you're proud of me? 815 00:49:57,728 --> 00:49:59,264 It's very impressive. 816 00:50:02,467 --> 00:50:04,869 "Impressive." I think it's a bit more than impressive... 817 00:50:05,002 --> 00:50:08,106 Come on, you've been praying for this your whole life, haven't you? 818 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:15,413 Yeah, I was praying for this but I was praying to my vanity. 819 00:50:15,546 --> 00:50:16,514 What's that supposed to mean? 820 00:50:16,647 --> 00:50:18,316 Please listen. I wanted... 821 00:50:18,449 --> 00:50:20,851 I wanted so much more than what your father could provide. 822 00:50:20,985 --> 00:50:22,887 I didn't realize what a good man he was. 823 00:50:23,020 --> 00:50:25,990 "A good man." A good man pays the water bill. 824 00:50:26,124 --> 00:50:27,758 A good man keeps the lights on in the house. 825 00:50:27,892 --> 00:50:30,928 A good man will take care of and provide for his family 826 00:50:31,062 --> 00:50:34,165 no matter what the cost. I... Mom... Mama... I'm a good man. 827 00:50:34,299 --> 00:50:37,168 It's very hard to be a good man, Barry. 828 00:50:37,302 --> 00:50:41,872 You're really doing this to me on my birthday, Mom? 829 00:50:42,006 --> 00:50:45,243 What are you doing? You want to turn on all this now? 830 00:50:45,376 --> 00:50:49,347 I am the most successful thing to ever come from this family. 831 00:50:51,449 --> 00:50:52,883 All right? This is everything that you've wanted. 832 00:50:53,017 --> 00:50:54,719 This is everything that Dad's wanted. 833 00:50:54,852 --> 00:50:56,687 This is everything that I've wanted for my entire life. 834 00:50:56,821 --> 00:51:00,591 I mean, come on, I control a $300 million company. 835 00:51:00,725 --> 00:51:02,860 When I was downstairs, blowing out my birthday candles, 836 00:51:02,993 --> 00:51:05,496 I couldn't even think of anythingto wish for, because I already have... 837 00:51:05,630 --> 00:51:07,198 You don't have anything. 838 00:51:07,332 --> 00:51:10,301 You don't have anything, because you don't have morality! 839 00:51:12,337 --> 00:51:13,704 I don't have... 840 00:51:16,641 --> 00:51:18,709 You don't have God. 841 00:51:19,644 --> 00:51:21,112 "God"? 842 00:51:24,615 --> 00:51:29,053 How much is God? I'll buy God. 843 00:51:59,384 --> 00:52:02,387 No, no, no. 844 00:52:05,290 --> 00:52:06,691 Look, this is ancient history. 845 00:52:06,824 --> 00:52:08,526 The banks and my investors know about this. 846 00:52:08,659 --> 00:52:11,128 A few dishonest carpet cleaners false-billed some customers. 847 00:52:11,262 --> 00:52:12,630 I fired them and paid everyone back. 848 00:52:12,763 --> 00:52:14,665 I don't see what the problem is. 849 00:52:14,799 --> 00:52:18,002 The problem is that stock prices respond to news reports. 850 00:52:18,135 --> 00:52:20,104 And your stock is already down half a point. 851 00:52:20,238 --> 00:52:22,039 There's a lot of pressure to sell the shorts, Barry... 852 00:52:22,173 --> 00:52:25,443 Okay. Well, then hold them off! Okay? Forget the shorts! 853 00:52:27,378 --> 00:52:28,846 I'm gonna... 854 00:52:28,979 --> 00:52:30,748 I'm issuing a press release for this afternoon 855 00:52:30,881 --> 00:52:32,250 that'll clear this whole thing up. 856 00:52:32,383 --> 00:52:34,985 Our stock will be back up to normal in no time. 857 00:52:37,522 --> 00:52:39,324 I have to go. I'll call you back. 858 00:52:41,559 --> 00:52:42,993 First Bank of Santa Barbara is 859 00:52:43,127 --> 00:52:45,896 calling in their $7 million loan because of the article. 860 00:52:49,267 --> 00:52:51,369 What about NorthRidge National? The same. 861 00:52:54,305 --> 00:52:56,140 That's nine million bucks, Mikey. 862 00:52:56,274 --> 00:52:58,075 Barry, there's one more thing. 863 00:53:00,511 --> 00:53:02,347 Saxon sold all of his shares. 864 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:03,514 He what? 865 00:53:06,517 --> 00:53:07,818 Okay. 866 00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:11,489 Mike, I need you to do something for me, all right? 867 00:53:11,622 --> 00:53:14,492 I need you to draft a press release, okay? 868 00:53:14,625 --> 00:53:17,495 Say that Payne Cameron has fully investigated all of these charges 869 00:53:17,628 --> 00:53:19,397 and cleared ZZZZ Best of any wrongdoing. 870 00:53:19,530 --> 00:53:21,098 Are you kidding me? 871 00:53:23,033 --> 00:53:24,469 Just do it. 872 00:53:31,409 --> 00:53:32,843 Amy? 873 00:53:33,644 --> 00:53:34,712 Amy! 874 00:53:36,414 --> 00:53:37,548 Amy! 875 00:53:37,682 --> 00:53:38,749 People keep calling us, Barry. 876 00:53:38,883 --> 00:53:40,485 Thank you for the observation. 877 00:53:40,618 --> 00:53:43,921 Amy, now listen, I need you... I need you to... 878 00:53:44,054 --> 00:53:48,359 I need you to schedule a press conference for this afternoon, okay? 879 00:53:48,493 --> 00:53:50,194 How do I do that? 880 00:53:50,328 --> 00:53:52,930 Time to earn your paycheck, Amy. Go! 881 00:53:58,436 --> 00:53:59,537 This is Barry. 882 00:54:07,244 --> 00:54:11,181 Hey! Look on the bright side. All right? 883 00:54:11,316 --> 00:54:12,883 At least they're only talking about credit card fraud, 884 00:54:13,017 --> 00:54:15,720 not the restoration jobs, right? 885 00:54:15,853 --> 00:54:18,222 Mr. Minkow, can you comment on why 886 00:54:18,356 --> 00:54:20,325 your stock went down four points today? 887 00:54:20,458 --> 00:54:22,627 Absolutely. See, that was a reaction to the LA Times story 888 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,330 about a past problem we had with some dishonest carpet cleaners. 889 00:54:25,463 --> 00:54:27,532 The banks and our investors already knew about this. 890 00:54:27,665 --> 00:54:32,102 But is it true that the SEC has ordered an investigation of ZZZZ Best? 891 00:54:32,236 --> 00:54:34,472 I'm unaware of any such investigation. 892 00:54:34,605 --> 00:54:36,307 Your prospectus states that 893 00:54:36,441 --> 00:54:39,510 you completed a $7 million restoration project in Sacramento 894 00:54:39,644 --> 00:54:42,246 and yet, ZZZZ Best never filed a permit for such construction. 895 00:54:42,380 --> 00:54:45,350 And in fact, ZZZZ Best doesn't even hold a contractor's license. 896 00:54:45,483 --> 00:54:46,951 How do you explain that? 897 00:54:50,621 --> 00:54:52,757 I'm going to have to refer that question to our legal staff. 898 00:54:52,890 --> 00:54:54,291 You know, that's all for today. 899 00:54:54,425 --> 00:54:56,427 I'm so sorry. I have to go. Thank you all. 900 00:54:56,561 --> 00:54:59,397 Mr. Minkow, how do you feel about Payne Cameron resigning? 901 00:55:01,432 --> 00:55:03,167 We have more questions, Mr. Minkow. 902 00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:07,338 We are here, live, on ZZZZ Best's property. Barry Minkow... 903 00:55:18,516 --> 00:55:21,251 I can't believe that Payne Cameron resigned. 904 00:55:21,386 --> 00:55:23,921 What did you think was going to happen, Barry? 905 00:55:28,025 --> 00:55:29,694 What's that supposed to mean? 906 00:55:30,961 --> 00:55:34,699 It's over, man. It's over. 907 00:55:34,832 --> 00:55:36,567 No, it's not. 908 00:55:36,701 --> 00:55:40,371 No, it's not over. I can fix this. Okay 909 00:55:40,505 --> 00:55:41,972 I can fix this just like I fixed everything. 910 00:55:42,106 --> 00:55:43,508 If I fixed it before I can fix it... 911 00:55:43,641 --> 00:55:46,043 Barry, you can't fix this. Yes, I can! 912 00:55:47,612 --> 00:55:49,046 Do you still not get it? 913 00:55:50,415 --> 00:55:52,617 You can't climb out of this one, Barry. 914 00:55:54,985 --> 00:55:57,722 What do you know, huh, Mike? 915 00:55:59,323 --> 00:56:02,993 You have no idea what it takes to build something like this. 916 00:56:03,127 --> 00:56:05,963 Yeah... You know, actually, I do. 917 00:56:06,096 --> 00:56:07,698 You know... 918 00:56:07,832 --> 00:56:13,938 All it takes is an incredible ability to lie. 919 00:56:14,071 --> 00:56:17,442 I mean, that's all you did, Barry. 920 00:56:17,575 --> 00:56:20,745 You're a phony. You used everyone. 921 00:56:22,046 --> 00:56:23,481 I used people? 922 00:56:24,649 --> 00:56:25,850 You used people. 923 00:56:25,983 --> 00:56:29,454 You used me for money, and popularity. 924 00:56:29,587 --> 00:56:31,489 You sucked me dry, man. Are you serious? 925 00:56:31,622 --> 00:56:33,290 Absolutely! 926 00:56:33,424 --> 00:56:36,594 You know, for somebody so smart, you can be really stupid. 927 00:56:36,727 --> 00:56:38,095 You... 928 00:56:39,497 --> 00:56:41,432 You are a loser! 929 00:56:41,566 --> 00:56:43,868 You betrayed me. You were a loser when I met you in high school. 930 00:56:44,001 --> 00:56:45,536 I'm done. You're a loser now, 931 00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:47,071 and you'll always be a loser! I'm done with you. 932 00:56:47,204 --> 00:56:49,574 I'm done with you. Barry. 933 00:56:49,707 --> 00:56:51,776 I'm done with you! 934 00:56:54,011 --> 00:57:00,017 You lying, self-centered, backstabbing son of a bitch. I'm done with you! 935 00:57:16,701 --> 00:57:18,469 Payne Cameron's team was pretty angry. 936 00:57:18,603 --> 00:57:20,237 They said the press release was a lie. 937 00:57:20,370 --> 00:57:23,474 They said they never investigated the charges. 938 00:57:26,043 --> 00:57:27,444 Is that true? 939 00:57:32,483 --> 00:57:34,418 Anyway, the phone's ringing off the hook. 940 00:57:34,552 --> 00:57:39,690 The Journal, the Times, everyone wants to speak with you. 941 00:58:07,552 --> 00:58:11,922 Barry, what do you want me to do? 942 00:58:12,056 --> 00:58:13,758 I'll be back in a hour. 943 00:58:25,269 --> 00:58:30,474 Mr. Minkow, you are a dangerous man. 944 00:58:30,608 --> 00:58:33,978 You do not have a conscience. 945 00:58:34,111 --> 00:58:39,984 You have been convicted of 57 counts of fraud, Mr. Minkow, 946 00:58:40,117 --> 00:58:47,925 and you are hereby ordered to serve a term of 25 years in jail. 947 00:58:48,058 --> 00:58:50,027 And you are further ordered 948 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:54,331 to make restitution of $26 million to the individuals, 949 00:58:54,464 --> 00:58:57,201 some of whom you see here today, 950 00:58:57,334 --> 00:59:02,873 whose lives you have severely impacted by your actions... 951 00:59:03,007 --> 00:59:10,347 The banks and the companies you pulled into your elaborate scheme. 952 00:59:14,418 --> 00:59:16,186 This court is adjourned. 953 00:59:47,184 --> 00:59:49,119 You know, the 2.5 million people 954 00:59:49,253 --> 00:59:51,155 that are busting the seams of our prisons, 955 00:59:51,288 --> 00:59:54,058 both state and federally across the U. S., 956 00:59:54,191 --> 00:59:56,393 all of us had one thing in common. 957 00:59:56,526 --> 00:59:58,462 None of us ever planned on being there. 958 01:00:00,064 --> 01:00:03,233 We all started with the best of intentions. 959 01:00:03,367 --> 01:00:06,336 I just wanted to be accepted. 960 01:00:06,470 --> 01:00:12,342 But it was that vehicle that got me that acceptance that swallowed me whole. 961 01:00:14,244 --> 01:00:18,082 You see, as far back as I can remember, I was dubbed "the whiz kid," 962 01:00:18,215 --> 01:00:21,485 and I had everything I ever wanted. 963 01:00:21,618 --> 01:00:24,722 Until it all came crashing down. 964 01:00:24,855 --> 01:00:27,958 Until I realized that my whole life was a con. 965 01:00:29,559 --> 01:00:32,730 One big giant con. 966 01:00:32,863 --> 01:00:37,467 Barry was compelled, compelled to play himself in the film, 967 01:00:37,601 --> 01:00:41,571 because that's the only way he could reach the final completion 968 01:00:41,706 --> 01:00:43,607 of being the hero in his own story. 969 01:00:43,741 --> 01:00:47,244 It was not enough to have an A- list actor. It had to be him. 970 01:00:47,377 --> 01:00:49,914 The acting that Barry did in the film, 971 01:00:50,047 --> 01:00:52,216 was, I thought, very, very, very good. 972 01:00:52,349 --> 01:00:55,252 I know when he wanted to make this movie... 973 01:00:55,385 --> 01:00:57,888 There again, I said, "Barry, be very, very careful." 974 01:00:58,022 --> 01:01:00,257 I certainly advised him not to play himself. 975 01:01:00,390 --> 01:01:02,592 I said, "You're making a mistake." 976 01:01:02,727 --> 01:01:05,963 Sorry. Hold on. There you go. 977 01:01:08,866 --> 01:01:10,634 There we go. 978 01:01:12,236 --> 01:01:14,138 Mind if I smoke? 979 01:01:14,271 --> 01:01:15,472 No, go ahead. 980 01:01:15,605 --> 01:01:17,541 I don't smoke. I mean, not anymore. 981 01:01:17,674 --> 01:01:20,845 I was just curious what a preacher felt about that. 982 01:01:20,978 --> 01:01:23,881 But now, unfortunately, I'm hooked on these. 983 01:01:24,014 --> 01:01:28,552 I got to go to rehab for these. Want one? 984 01:01:28,685 --> 01:01:31,121 No. It's the red one. 985 01:01:31,255 --> 01:01:32,556 Go ahead. No. 986 01:01:34,491 --> 01:01:35,726 What are you thinking about? 987 01:01:36,761 --> 01:01:37,728 Nah. 988 01:01:39,696 --> 01:01:40,765 Peanut. 989 01:01:40,898 --> 01:01:41,999 What's that? 990 01:01:42,132 --> 01:01:43,901 James "Peanut" Long. 991 01:01:44,034 --> 01:01:46,670 The reason they call me the Jailhouse Preacher. 992 01:01:46,804 --> 01:01:51,208 Oh. You're gonna tell me how you found Jesus? 993 01:01:51,341 --> 01:01:53,277 I didn't find Jesus. 994 01:01:53,410 --> 01:01:57,581 He found me in the form of a 250-pound black guy. 995 01:02:12,596 --> 01:02:14,631 Not bad for a guy your size. 996 01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:17,467 Size ain't nothing. 997 01:02:18,502 --> 01:02:20,337 The body is your temple. 998 01:02:21,605 --> 01:02:25,976 Muscles ain't strength. 999 01:02:31,515 --> 01:02:33,517 Real strength is in here. 1000 01:02:35,619 --> 01:02:40,290 You know, the most dangerous part of your story 1001 01:02:40,424 --> 01:02:42,226 is that throughout the whole ordeal 1002 01:02:42,359 --> 01:02:43,760 you actually convinced yourself 1003 01:02:43,894 --> 01:02:46,630 that you were helping hundreds of employees, 1004 01:02:46,763 --> 01:02:48,332 when in reality, you were just... 1005 01:02:48,465 --> 01:02:51,035 Helping myself. That's all I was doing. 1006 01:02:51,168 --> 01:02:55,139 Hindsight is 20/20, and look where it got me. 1007 01:02:55,272 --> 01:02:57,541 Locked up in a prison cell. 1008 01:02:58,608 --> 01:03:00,978 Well, we're both locked up. 1009 01:03:01,111 --> 01:03:04,281 Difference is, I'm at peace with what I've done. 1010 01:03:04,414 --> 01:03:05,715 And I'm getting there. 1011 01:03:05,850 --> 01:03:07,717 You're pretending to get there. 1012 01:03:10,187 --> 01:03:11,355 You don't think I'm sincere? 1013 01:03:11,488 --> 01:03:13,790 I think you're trying to find the Lord, 1014 01:03:13,924 --> 01:03:15,592 so you can hang out with the Jesus freaks 1015 01:03:15,725 --> 01:03:19,129 instead of the skinheads to make it in here. 1016 01:03:19,263 --> 01:03:21,465 Whatever. Yeah. Whatever. 1017 01:03:21,598 --> 01:03:24,835 Why do you come to church on Sunday 1018 01:03:24,969 --> 01:03:29,239 Is it because you're really trying to change your life? 1019 01:03:29,373 --> 01:03:31,641 Or is it just another Barry Minkow con? 1020 01:03:35,779 --> 01:03:37,747 One thing to remember is the fraud artist 1021 01:03:37,882 --> 01:03:40,050 doesn't see himself as a criminal. 1022 01:03:40,184 --> 01:03:44,021 The fraud is merely a means to a well-justified end. 1023 01:03:44,154 --> 01:03:47,057 Once the scheme works, everybody gets paid off, 1024 01:03:47,191 --> 01:03:48,725 nobody gets hurt. 1025 01:03:49,459 --> 01:03:50,794 Voila. 1026 01:03:51,628 --> 01:03:54,464 Okay, let's move on here. 1027 01:03:56,934 --> 01:04:01,238 You know as well as I do, when the devil comes at you at first, 1028 01:04:01,371 --> 01:04:05,242 he looks good, sounds good, feels good. 1029 01:04:05,375 --> 01:04:09,546 Then, when it's too late, the beast comes out. 1030 01:04:09,679 --> 01:04:11,515 You got that right. 1031 01:04:13,183 --> 01:04:14,751 Where were you 11 years ago? 1032 01:04:15,785 --> 01:04:18,655 Well, I had a lot of growing up to do. 1033 01:04:18,788 --> 01:04:23,093 Like I said, ain't no accidents in life. 1034 01:04:23,227 --> 01:04:25,829 We bought shares for five cents apiece, 1035 01:04:25,963 --> 01:04:27,464 then dumped them on the market 1036 01:04:27,597 --> 01:04:29,866 when it hit 12 and 13 bucks. 1037 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,502 That was the part that was illegal. 1038 01:04:32,636 --> 01:04:35,772 So, it was Saxon that got you involved in the penny stocks, right? 1039 01:04:35,906 --> 01:04:38,142 And that's when he turned his Wall Street connections 1040 01:04:38,275 --> 01:04:40,777 onto the stock, they bought blocks of it, 1041 01:04:40,911 --> 01:04:42,712 the price shot through the roof 1042 01:04:42,846 --> 01:04:46,250 and I was worth millions instantly. 1043 01:04:46,383 --> 01:04:47,851 Insider trading. 1044 01:04:56,526 --> 01:04:57,861 Hey! 1045 01:04:58,428 --> 01:04:59,663 Hey! 1046 01:05:01,065 --> 01:05:03,800 Hey, you need to leave him alone. 1047 01:05:03,934 --> 01:05:05,902 Yeah? You need to mind your own business. 1048 01:05:06,036 --> 01:05:07,571 Hey, I don't want any trouble. 1049 01:05:08,672 --> 01:05:10,807 I said mind your own business. 1050 01:05:10,941 --> 01:05:13,543 I will when you let him go. 1051 01:05:13,677 --> 01:05:15,345 Too bad. Can't you hear? 1052 01:05:15,479 --> 01:05:17,547 Finish your shower. I said take a walk, man. Take a walk. 1053 01:05:17,681 --> 01:05:19,950 I don't think so. Don't think so? 1054 01:05:22,386 --> 01:05:27,057 I know I'm not seeing what I think I'm seeing. 1055 01:05:30,327 --> 01:05:36,266 'Cause if you're trying to hurt him, you're trying to hurt me. 1056 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:37,701 Let's get out of here. 1057 01:05:43,573 --> 01:05:45,909 Lord Jesus, I want to thank you 1058 01:05:46,043 --> 01:05:48,878 for making me a God-fearing man. 1059 01:05:49,013 --> 01:05:51,648 And having me not beat anyone's ass. 1060 01:05:51,781 --> 01:05:54,851 In Jesus' name, Amen. 1061 01:06:01,725 --> 01:06:03,593 I'm proud of you, whiz kid. 1062 01:06:04,461 --> 01:06:05,795 You did all the work. 1063 01:06:05,929 --> 01:06:08,332 I don't know why you'd be proud of me. 1064 01:06:08,465 --> 01:06:10,067 Changing. 1065 01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:14,304 You helped a weaker brother who was outnumbered. 1066 01:06:14,438 --> 01:06:19,409 Shows that you're changing from your selfish-ass, self-centered ways. 1067 01:06:19,543 --> 01:06:23,780 Remember. The Lord always looks out for the underdog. 1068 01:06:25,782 --> 01:06:29,286 I don't know if it was Peanut or the broken nose. 1069 01:06:29,419 --> 01:06:33,057 I guess God has a way of taking care of the details. 1070 01:06:33,190 --> 01:06:39,896 And it was at this moment that life took on new clarity for me. 1071 01:06:40,030 --> 01:06:42,699 See, to win the game, I had to stay in the pocket, 1072 01:06:42,832 --> 01:06:45,001 and face the pain. 1073 01:06:45,135 --> 01:06:48,705 It was then I learned that to win in life 1074 01:06:48,838 --> 01:06:51,741 meant no more backing down. 1075 01:06:53,009 --> 01:06:54,711 No more shortcuts. 1076 01:06:55,712 --> 01:06:57,847 No more compromises. 1077 01:06:58,848 --> 01:07:00,384 No more lies. 1078 01:07:04,254 --> 01:07:05,889 And no more cons. 1079 01:07:36,453 --> 01:07:38,488 How you feeling? 1080 01:07:38,622 --> 01:07:42,426 I question whether some of the stuff he did was for the movie 1081 01:07:42,559 --> 01:07:44,060 or the story of the movie. 1082 01:07:44,194 --> 01:07:46,496 I never felt better. Thank you. 1083 01:07:46,630 --> 01:07:49,299 I question whether Peanut was a real person or not. 1084 01:07:49,433 --> 01:07:51,401 It's a pretty good throw. 1085 01:07:51,535 --> 01:07:54,771 I don't think Barry could throw a football nine feet. 1086 01:07:54,904 --> 01:07:57,141 Truth plus time equal trust. 1087 01:07:57,274 --> 01:08:01,945 A lot of truth, over a long period of time equals trust. 1088 01:08:02,078 --> 01:08:04,948 And no shortcuts to that equation either, you know? 1089 01:08:14,858 --> 01:08:19,329 Yeah, well, thanks for the time. 1090 01:08:24,268 --> 01:08:26,536 Like I said from the beginning, 1091 01:08:26,670 --> 01:08:29,639 I don't want to spend the rest of my life in witness protection. 1092 01:08:29,773 --> 01:08:34,344 I'm not going to testify against Mr. Saxon, not now, not ever. 1093 01:08:34,478 --> 01:08:36,146 Excuse me. 1094 01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,815 I never felt that Barry was rehabilitated. 1095 01:08:38,948 --> 01:08:42,352 I believe his transformation was real. 1096 01:08:42,486 --> 01:08:47,257 Everyone in prison knew that if you found Jesus 1097 01:08:47,391 --> 01:08:51,795 that would look good on your record to maybe get early release. 1098 01:08:51,928 --> 01:08:54,097 Truth plus time equal trust. 1099 01:08:54,231 --> 01:08:58,968 A lot of truth, over a long period of time equals trust. 1100 01:08:59,102 --> 01:09:01,738 And no shortcuts to that equation either, you know. 1101 01:09:05,275 --> 01:09:09,279 All right. We've heard the testimony. 1102 01:09:09,413 --> 01:09:14,150 Now, it's time to decide based on Mr. Minkow's present character. 1103 01:09:27,497 --> 01:09:31,435 You know, he came out of prison raring to go. 1104 01:09:31,568 --> 01:09:35,205 But I didn't see it coming with the church, quite honestly. 1105 01:09:35,339 --> 01:09:40,577 Mr. Minkow, we have gone through your application 1106 01:09:40,710 --> 01:09:43,046 and enjoyed your guest sermon, 1107 01:09:43,179 --> 01:09:48,685 but now we'd like to hear the answer to the following question. 1108 01:09:48,818 --> 01:09:50,554 Why should we hire you? 1109 01:09:53,823 --> 01:09:56,025 Well, on paper, you shouldn't. 1110 01:09:56,159 --> 01:09:58,362 Especially when you consider the fact that 1111 01:09:58,495 --> 01:10:01,865 the other 199 applicants aren't convicted felons. 1112 01:10:06,970 --> 01:10:09,839 If you hire me, I can promise you one thing, 1113 01:10:09,973 --> 01:10:12,576 that no one will work harder, if for no other reason 1114 01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:16,480 than out of gratitude for being given the opportunity 1115 01:10:16,613 --> 01:10:18,815 to pastor such a great church. 1116 01:10:21,818 --> 01:10:24,454 You see, I'm naive enough to believe that 1117 01:10:24,588 --> 01:10:28,057 if you want to find the best employee, the best place to find one 1118 01:10:28,191 --> 01:10:30,527 is someone who's just come out of prison, 1119 01:10:30,660 --> 01:10:32,296 who didn't fail jail. 1120 01:10:33,497 --> 01:10:36,433 Who owes society for what they've... 1121 01:10:38,502 --> 01:10:40,437 I've done. 1122 01:10:40,570 --> 01:10:46,410 And what better way for a church to show their belief in the gospel of grace 1123 01:10:46,543 --> 01:10:51,214 than have a broken vessel like me proclaim that truth 1124 01:10:51,348 --> 01:10:53,583 from the pulpit of this very church. 1125 01:10:53,717 --> 01:10:57,921 And from a marketing standpoint, imagine a slogan, 1126 01:10:58,054 --> 01:10:59,623 "Community Bible Church, 1127 01:10:59,756 --> 01:11:03,627 the only church where the pastor is far worse than you." 1128 01:11:07,464 --> 01:11:09,966 I'll tell ya, I don't know if you ever saw him in church, 1129 01:11:10,099 --> 01:11:12,936 in front of his congregation, he was masterful. 1130 01:11:13,069 --> 01:11:15,605 I mean, he had them in the palm of his hands. 1131 01:11:15,739 --> 01:11:18,041 Thank you. Nice to meet you. 1132 01:11:20,744 --> 01:11:22,145 Hi. Hi. 1133 01:11:22,278 --> 01:11:24,748 Nice to meet you. Thank you for coming. 1134 01:11:24,881 --> 01:11:28,952 First time here? Yes. Wonderful sermon, Pastor Minkow. 1135 01:11:29,085 --> 01:11:31,721 Pastor Barry, please. And this is my wife Lisa. 1136 01:11:31,855 --> 01:11:33,156 Hi, it's a pleasure to meet you. 1137 01:11:33,289 --> 01:11:35,892 Hi, I'm Ellen Scott and this is my husband Don. 1138 01:11:36,025 --> 01:11:37,527 Don, it's good to meet you. 1139 01:11:37,661 --> 01:11:39,863 We drove down from Santa Barbara. Santa Barbara? 1140 01:11:39,996 --> 01:11:43,132 Well, my sermons don't merit that kind of sacrifice, but thank you anyway. 1141 01:11:43,266 --> 01:11:46,135 We're here for another reason. 1142 01:11:48,372 --> 01:11:53,877 The past 10 years, we put all our retirement savings in a hedge fund. 1143 01:11:54,010 --> 01:11:57,046 About $250,000. 1144 01:11:57,180 --> 01:12:00,550 I earned that money, working 31 years as a longshoreman. 1145 01:12:00,684 --> 01:12:07,156 Now we're worried about the fund and thought you could check it out. 1146 01:12:07,290 --> 01:12:08,892 Ma'am, I'm sorry, I'm a pastor. 1147 01:12:09,025 --> 01:12:11,528 I don't really know a whole lot about hedge funds. 1148 01:12:11,661 --> 01:12:16,332 I'm really sorry. I... Look, why are you concerned? 1149 01:12:16,466 --> 01:12:19,035 The manager just moved his office to the Bahamas. 1150 01:12:19,168 --> 01:12:20,870 How long have they been around? 1151 01:12:21,004 --> 01:12:25,675 Twenty years. They're worth around $800 million, about 2,000 investors. 1152 01:12:25,809 --> 01:12:27,844 Twenty years, $800 million... 1153 01:12:27,977 --> 01:12:30,013 Sounds like you don't have a whole lot to worry about there. 1154 01:12:30,146 --> 01:12:34,851 Please, would you check on it? I brought the prospectus. 1155 01:12:34,984 --> 01:12:37,320 Why me? I'm not an expert in these kind of things. 1156 01:12:37,454 --> 01:12:41,525 Everything was fine until I tried to withdraw the money. 1157 01:12:41,658 --> 01:12:46,496 They've been telling me that it's in process for three months. 1158 01:12:46,630 --> 01:12:51,334 I told my nephew about it and he suggested I see you. 1159 01:12:51,468 --> 01:12:55,338 Your nephew. Who's your nephew? 1160 01:13:01,911 --> 01:13:03,079 Mike? 1161 01:13:03,980 --> 01:13:07,050 Mike 1162 01:13:08,852 --> 01:13:11,555 You look great. You look great. 1163 01:13:11,688 --> 01:13:13,590 Not even you can pull off that lie. 1164 01:13:13,723 --> 01:13:17,393 Well, I'm not exactly winning any beauty contests myself. 1165 01:13:17,527 --> 01:13:19,095 How you been? 1166 01:13:19,228 --> 01:13:21,831 I'll be a lot better if you tell me you can help out my uncle. 1167 01:13:21,965 --> 01:13:23,366 Yeah, well... 1168 01:13:23,500 --> 01:13:27,203 This hedge-fund guy, Lewis, right, he's telling me 1169 01:13:27,336 --> 01:13:30,674 he's getting monthly gains of 1.5% to 3.5%. 1170 01:13:30,807 --> 01:13:34,711 Yeah, I don't think anybody's quite that good. 1171 01:13:34,844 --> 01:13:36,212 Hedge fund, I... 1172 01:13:36,345 --> 01:13:37,981 You know, I got that letter you wrote to me from prison, 1173 01:13:38,114 --> 01:13:39,949 apologizing for what you did. 1174 01:13:40,083 --> 01:13:43,319 Were you lying then or are you lying now? 1175 01:13:43,453 --> 01:13:47,390 Look, Mike, I'm not the same guy I was before. 1176 01:13:47,524 --> 01:13:50,794 I'm married. I got the church. I got twins. 1177 01:13:50,927 --> 01:13:53,830 I teach the FBI in fraud prevention in Quantico. I... 1178 01:13:53,963 --> 01:13:57,567 I don't really want to hear about the good deeds of my old schoolmates. 1179 01:13:57,701 --> 01:13:59,603 You can tell me you're working with lepers on an island, 1180 01:13:59,736 --> 01:14:03,072 my opinion of you wouldn't change, Barry. Okay? 1181 01:14:03,206 --> 01:14:06,042 I'll believe the change when I see it. 1182 01:14:06,175 --> 01:14:09,713 Anybody who's ever been in a financial dealing with me has lived to regret it. 1183 01:14:09,846 --> 01:14:11,280 You know that. 1184 01:14:11,414 --> 01:14:14,050 Yeah, I'll take my chances. 1185 01:14:14,183 --> 01:14:16,986 Besides, your rates are unbeatable. 1186 01:14:19,022 --> 01:14:22,391 Rates? I don't have any rates. 1187 01:14:22,526 --> 01:14:23,627 Exactly. 1188 01:14:26,663 --> 01:14:30,834 It became just too much of a temptation for him. 1189 01:14:30,967 --> 01:14:34,103 Barry wanted to kind of do the Catch Me If You Can. 1190 01:14:34,237 --> 01:14:37,641 It was impressive. I mean, he really knew his stuff. 1191 01:14:37,774 --> 01:14:39,543 And there you have the six red flags for fraud. 1192 01:14:39,676 --> 01:14:42,178 Should you choose to commit those to memory, 1193 01:14:42,311 --> 01:14:43,713 you will be able to stop the next Barry Minkow 1194 01:14:43,847 --> 01:14:45,749 before he is the next Barry Minkow. 1195 01:14:45,882 --> 01:14:47,717 That's all I have today. Thanks for joining me. 1196 01:14:49,853 --> 01:14:54,390 I think Barry viewed himself as a hero in a sort of twisted way. 1197 01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:58,995 Well, well, well. 1198 01:14:59,128 --> 01:15:00,697 If it ain't the preacher man. 1199 01:15:00,830 --> 01:15:03,366 Good to see you, Smooth. I see the streets have treated you well. 1200 01:15:03,499 --> 01:15:04,534 You look good, my friend. 1201 01:15:04,668 --> 01:15:06,269 Yeah, right. 1202 01:15:06,402 --> 01:15:09,038 You get a chance to look at the copy of the prospectus I sent you? 1203 01:15:09,172 --> 01:15:12,275 Does your PO officer know that you're associating with an ex 1204 01:15:12,408 --> 01:15:14,010 'Cause I will tell him. 1205 01:15:14,143 --> 01:15:17,180 I'm just trying to figure out how this Lewis guy has managed to 1206 01:15:17,313 --> 01:15:20,784 run a Ponzi scheme for 20 years without it imploding. 1207 01:15:20,917 --> 01:15:24,621 Either I'm missing something, or he's a financial genius. 1208 01:15:24,754 --> 01:15:26,355 Little of both. 1209 01:15:27,557 --> 01:15:31,260 Can I get a beer and a whiskey, please? 1210 01:15:35,999 --> 01:15:38,868 Look, I need your expertise. 1211 01:15:39,002 --> 01:15:41,137 You're the best there is. 1212 01:15:46,910 --> 01:15:49,278 You already got what you're looking for. 1213 01:15:53,817 --> 01:15:55,685 In the prospectus. 1214 01:15:55,819 --> 01:16:00,056 They practically advertise for people to invest their retirement money. 1215 01:16:00,189 --> 01:16:02,125 Yeah, so? 1216 01:16:02,258 --> 01:16:05,995 When people take their IRA money and put it into a fund like this one here, 1217 01:16:06,129 --> 01:16:09,933 there are heavy penalties if you pull out before you're 57 and a half. 1218 01:16:10,066 --> 01:16:14,470 They can invest the money all they want, they just can't pull it out. 1219 01:16:14,604 --> 01:16:18,608 The perfect ingredient for the successful Ponzi scheme. 1220 01:16:21,510 --> 01:16:24,848 Barry becoming a fraud buster didn't surprise me. 1221 01:16:24,981 --> 01:16:29,052 You know, I always wondered if going undercover was an opportunity for him 1222 01:16:29,185 --> 01:16:33,690 to reenact his favorite '80s detective shows, and he had many, 1223 01:16:33,823 --> 01:16:38,394 or was it part of a larger plan to actually do good this time? 1224 01:16:43,967 --> 01:16:47,236 I don't know. I mean, I don't know. 1225 01:16:47,370 --> 01:16:50,674 Let me explain this to you. There's just a slight difference 1226 01:16:50,807 --> 01:16:53,209 between lecturing these guys and dodging bullets for them. 1227 01:16:53,342 --> 01:16:56,512 And it's not like you've been trained exactly. Not to a fine edge. 1228 01:16:56,646 --> 01:17:00,249 Look, the guy has been around for over 20 years and he's a ghost. 1229 01:17:00,383 --> 01:17:01,718 No license to sell securities, 1230 01:17:01,851 --> 01:17:03,386 no assets held in the fund's name, nothing. 1231 01:17:03,519 --> 01:17:05,088 Who the hell is this guy? 1232 01:17:05,221 --> 01:17:07,123 It's the only way. 1233 01:17:07,256 --> 01:17:10,626 I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll send Matt down to the Bahamas, 1234 01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,528 and he'll record the meeting. 1235 01:17:12,662 --> 01:17:15,665 If there's any misreps, we'll move forward from there. 1236 01:17:15,799 --> 01:17:17,000 How's that? 1237 01:17:17,133 --> 01:17:19,402 Uh, just one last thing is, 1238 01:17:19,535 --> 01:17:22,471 I need Quantico to create me a bogus bank statement 1239 01:17:22,605 --> 01:17:26,242 showing the church has $5 million parked in a money market. 1240 01:17:26,375 --> 01:17:29,645 Wait a minute, how do you know this guy's gonna show up in the first place? 1241 01:17:29,779 --> 01:17:33,182 Any Ponzi scheme operator desperate for new cash 1242 01:17:33,316 --> 01:17:37,053 would do whatever it took to get their hands on new cash. He'll show. 1243 01:17:37,186 --> 01:17:37,854 Uh-huh. 1244 01:17:39,355 --> 01:17:42,692 So, you're asking me to give the carpet guy 1245 01:17:42,826 --> 01:17:47,731 this bank statement for $5 million. 1246 01:17:47,864 --> 01:17:48,965 What, am I crazy? 1247 01:17:50,399 --> 01:17:52,335 Ernest Hemingway said, "The only way you can learn 1248 01:17:52,468 --> 01:17:55,571 "to trust someone, is to trust 'em." 1249 01:17:55,705 --> 01:17:57,373 Ernest Hemingway said that? 1250 01:17:57,506 --> 01:18:01,544 I think so. Could have been Churchill. Or him. 1251 01:18:01,677 --> 01:18:03,279 "Barry, you don't understand. 1252 01:18:03,412 --> 01:18:05,248 "You're going undercover, you're not a cop. 1253 01:18:05,381 --> 01:18:06,983 "You're a pastor." 1254 01:18:07,116 --> 01:18:09,218 He said, "Listen, I'm uncovering fraud. 1255 01:18:09,352 --> 01:18:14,657 "I'm helping people that are getting scammed and victimized by others." 1256 01:18:14,791 --> 01:18:17,560 I said, "Barry, working so closely with the government, 1257 01:18:17,693 --> 01:18:20,797 "if you're wrong one time, you're in trouble." 1258 01:18:20,930 --> 01:18:23,199 You say Don Scott's a friend of yours? 1259 01:18:23,332 --> 01:18:25,268 Yeah, he's a member of our church, 1260 01:18:25,401 --> 01:18:27,837 and the church has been growing so much lately 1261 01:18:27,971 --> 01:18:30,106 that we've established a building fund, 1262 01:18:30,239 --> 01:18:33,142 to purchase some land to accommodate the growth. 1263 01:18:33,276 --> 01:18:36,312 We wanted to invest that money, have it working for us until we build. 1264 01:18:36,445 --> 01:18:39,883 Well, it would grow here, I assure you. How much do you have to invest? 1265 01:18:40,016 --> 01:18:42,451 A little over $5 million. 1266 01:18:42,585 --> 01:18:46,455 Those returns that you've been generating, can they be corroborated? 1267 01:18:46,589 --> 01:18:50,693 Yes. We earn 18% to 40% annual. A 20-year track record. 1268 01:18:50,827 --> 01:18:53,396 And 800 million? Eight hundred million. Yes, correct. 1269 01:18:53,529 --> 01:18:55,631 $800 million fund. 1270 01:18:55,765 --> 01:18:58,401 You just gotta forgive me. Numbers like that get me a little bit nervous. 1271 01:18:58,534 --> 01:19:01,938 You are aware of my past, I was convicted of securities fraud? 1272 01:19:02,071 --> 01:19:03,739 I read about you, yes. 1273 01:19:03,873 --> 01:19:07,143 I like how you disclose it up-front on your church's website, too. 1274 01:19:07,276 --> 01:19:10,780 I'll be happy to work with you. We all make mistakes. 1275 01:19:10,914 --> 01:19:13,182 You were just a kid. You got greedy. 1276 01:19:13,316 --> 01:19:17,420 I have the money market account, bank statement 1277 01:19:17,553 --> 01:19:20,790 to prove that the money is waiting there, you can call the bank. 1278 01:19:20,924 --> 01:19:22,792 It's clear funds, waiting to wire. 1279 01:19:22,926 --> 01:19:25,895 Well, thank you for coming, Pastor. I look forward to working with you. 1280 01:19:26,029 --> 01:19:27,663 Well, I do appreciate you seeing me, 1281 01:19:27,797 --> 01:19:31,901 and just as soon as you send Don Scott his $250,000, 1282 01:19:32,035 --> 01:19:34,570 we'll wire these funds right to your bank account. 1283 01:19:36,973 --> 01:19:41,444 It's just that, Mr. Scott had requested a $250,000 withdrawal, 1284 01:19:41,577 --> 01:19:43,279 and apparently in your move to the Bahamas... 1285 01:19:43,412 --> 01:19:46,415 You tell Mr. Scott, he'll have his money in 24 hours. 1286 01:19:46,549 --> 01:19:48,684 Thank you for coming. Terrific. Mr. Lewis, 1287 01:19:48,818 --> 01:19:50,954 thank you so much for your time. 1288 01:19:53,589 --> 01:19:55,291 Well, hey, Don, good to see you. 1289 01:19:55,424 --> 01:19:59,963 Hey, Barry. Well, Lewis wired me half my money this morning. 1290 01:20:00,096 --> 01:20:02,098 Half? Yeah. 1291 01:20:02,231 --> 01:20:06,970 He said that the custodian of American Investment didn't put in my paperwork, 1292 01:20:07,103 --> 01:20:09,138 so he sent it out of his own pocket, 1293 01:20:09,272 --> 01:20:13,376 and he said he'd wire me the other half very soon. 1294 01:20:13,509 --> 01:20:16,212 You know, Don, I may have underestimated just how 1295 01:20:16,345 --> 01:20:18,581 strapped for cash Mr. Lewis is. 1296 01:20:20,583 --> 01:20:24,687 Why would he risk five million new fresh dollars 1297 01:20:24,820 --> 01:20:27,456 by sending only half of what he promised just days ago? 1298 01:20:27,590 --> 01:20:28,858 There's only one answer to that. 1299 01:20:28,992 --> 01:20:30,693 And that is, he doesn't have the full amount, 1300 01:20:30,826 --> 01:20:34,397 and he is much more cash-strapped than I first anticipated. 1301 01:20:34,530 --> 01:20:36,365 You're beginning to worry me, Barry. 1302 01:20:36,499 --> 01:20:40,603 Look, Don, I don't want you to worry about a thing. I got this under control. 1303 01:20:40,736 --> 01:20:43,706 Okay? Trust me on this. It'll be okay. 1304 01:20:43,839 --> 01:20:45,674 I'll take care of it. 1305 01:20:51,314 --> 01:20:52,315 Hello? 1306 01:20:52,448 --> 01:20:54,918 Pastor Minkow, Derek Lewis. 1307 01:20:55,051 --> 01:20:57,520 My understanding was you were going to deposit your church money 1308 01:20:57,653 --> 01:21:00,289 two days after Mr. Scott got his withdrawal fund. 1309 01:21:00,423 --> 01:21:04,894 It's my understanding that Mr. Scott only received half of his funds. 1310 01:21:05,028 --> 01:21:06,495 Well, there was a problem with the paperwork. 1311 01:21:06,629 --> 01:21:08,597 He'll get the balance tomorrow or the next day. 1312 01:21:08,731 --> 01:21:13,436 Terrific. And once he does, the church will wire the funds as I had promised. 1313 01:21:13,569 --> 01:21:16,005 Hey, that's my money. I control who gets paid and when. 1314 01:21:16,139 --> 01:21:18,307 No ex-con's gonna run a number on me. 1315 01:21:18,441 --> 01:21:21,477 You know something, Mr. Lewis, you're not as smart as you think you are. 1316 01:21:21,610 --> 01:21:23,112 I know exactly what you're doing. 1317 01:21:23,246 --> 01:21:26,182 You have no idea what you're talking about. 1318 01:21:26,315 --> 01:21:29,352 The beauty of grace is that good people don't go to heaven, 1319 01:21:29,485 --> 01:21:30,753 forgiven people go to heaven. 1320 01:21:30,886 --> 01:21:32,655 That's the... Barry, what is going on? 1321 01:21:32,788 --> 01:21:36,025 Excuse me a second. Just relax for a minute. Excuse me. 1322 01:21:36,159 --> 01:21:38,827 Just relax for a minute, would you, Mike 1323 01:21:38,962 --> 01:21:40,629 I'm gonna punch you in the face 1324 01:21:40,763 --> 01:21:42,565 the next time you tell me to relax, all right? 1325 01:21:42,698 --> 01:21:45,935 Derek Lewis is suing my uncle for $10 million, 1326 01:21:46,069 --> 01:21:48,537 for fraud and misrepresentation. 1327 01:21:48,671 --> 01:21:50,739 Yeah, I know. He's doing the same thing to me and the church. 1328 01:21:50,873 --> 01:21:53,242 The cost for the suit is gonna wipe them out! 1329 01:21:53,376 --> 01:21:56,712 Okay, I need you to stop doing what you are doing. Okay? 1330 01:21:56,845 --> 01:21:59,382 They've got half their money back. That's as good as they're gonna get. 1331 01:21:59,515 --> 01:22:00,349 Just walk away. 1332 01:22:00,483 --> 01:22:02,085 I can't, Mike. 1333 01:22:02,218 --> 01:22:04,887 There's a lot more at stake than what you're thinking. 1334 01:22:05,021 --> 01:22:07,323 It's gonna be okay. Just trust me. 1335 01:22:07,456 --> 01:22:09,692 Trust you. Where have I heard that before? 1336 01:22:09,825 --> 01:22:12,728 Trusting you ruined my life, Barry. 1337 01:22:12,861 --> 01:22:16,565 Barry's intentions were always good, at least according to him. 1338 01:22:16,699 --> 01:22:18,734 But he had a lack of regard for the law 1339 01:22:18,867 --> 01:22:20,869 and eventually, that became an issue. 1340 01:22:21,004 --> 01:22:23,539 But Barry was very hard to say no to. 1341 01:22:25,308 --> 01:22:28,177 You don't have to convince me your intentions are good, Barry. 1342 01:22:28,311 --> 01:22:32,148 I know you've been making restitution, even from prison. 1343 01:22:32,281 --> 01:22:34,950 I owe this community a lot more than just money, Michael, you know that. 1344 01:22:35,084 --> 01:22:38,721 Yes, but what you're asking me to do, I cannot do. 1345 01:22:38,854 --> 01:22:40,589 I might lose my job. 1346 01:22:40,723 --> 01:22:46,195 Look, Michael, I got Mr. Lewis on tape saying he has $800 million 1347 01:22:46,329 --> 01:22:49,465 in his accounts at this bank and if he does, that's wonderful. 1348 01:22:49,598 --> 01:22:52,068 But if he doesn't, he's in the process of destroying 1349 01:22:52,201 --> 01:22:55,071 the lives of thousands of people in this community. 1350 01:22:55,204 --> 01:22:57,506 I need your help. I can't just... 1351 01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:59,642 We can't just let that happen. 1352 01:22:59,775 --> 01:23:02,911 All I want you to do is check the balances. 1353 01:23:03,046 --> 01:23:05,214 If they're nowhere near $800 million, 1354 01:23:05,348 --> 01:23:08,551 then just get out of that chair, walk over to that window, 1355 01:23:08,684 --> 01:23:11,454 look outside and then I'll know for sure. 1356 01:23:11,587 --> 01:23:16,125 All I need are those balances. Please, Michael, I'll leave either way. 1357 01:23:16,259 --> 01:23:20,329 All the investment company's accounts are tied to this tax ID number. 1358 01:23:24,167 --> 01:23:28,003 You have to help me here. You have to believe in me. 1359 01:23:28,137 --> 01:23:29,338 Please. 1360 01:23:56,665 --> 01:23:58,801 Man, looks like it's going to rain. 1361 01:24:04,340 --> 01:24:07,176 Gamble had me do some digging the past few days on my lunch break. 1362 01:24:07,310 --> 01:24:09,078 What's this? 1363 01:24:09,212 --> 01:24:12,315 Articles of incorporation from a Tijuana company called Olacane. 1364 01:24:12,448 --> 01:24:13,749 It's Dowry's cash cow. 1365 01:24:15,050 --> 01:24:16,752 They get all their factoring contracts from there. 1366 01:24:16,885 --> 01:24:18,621 It's run by some guy named Oliveros. 1367 01:24:18,754 --> 01:24:20,289 They operate out of 300 square feet 1368 01:24:20,423 --> 01:24:23,058 and share a secretary with three other businesses. 1369 01:24:23,192 --> 01:24:25,394 The restoration equivalent of my Ponzi scheme. 1370 01:24:25,528 --> 01:24:30,299 No way that a 300 square-foot office in Mexico can substantiate 1371 01:24:30,433 --> 01:24:33,068 hundreds of millions in factoring business. 1372 01:24:33,202 --> 01:24:35,003 Gamble says, "Merry Christmas." 1373 01:24:37,606 --> 01:24:38,707 Hello? 1374 01:24:38,841 --> 01:24:40,809 Mr. Lewis, this is Barry Minkow calling. 1375 01:24:40,943 --> 01:24:42,044 How'd you get this number? 1376 01:24:42,178 --> 01:24:43,646 You have your spies. I have mine. 1377 01:24:43,779 --> 01:24:45,214 What do you want? 1378 01:24:45,348 --> 01:24:46,849 I'd like to meet you in Los Angeles tomorrow 1379 01:24:46,982 --> 01:24:49,185 and I'd like you to bring the rest of Don Scott's money. 1380 01:24:49,318 --> 01:24:50,219 You gotta be joking. 1381 01:24:50,353 --> 01:24:52,121 5:00 p. m., LA Resort Hotel. 1382 01:24:52,255 --> 01:24:54,757 Unless of course you'd like me to take the information I've obtained 1383 01:24:54,890 --> 01:24:56,659 and turn it over to the FBI or the Journal. 1384 01:24:56,792 --> 01:24:58,361 And what do you have on me, Mr. Minkow? 1385 01:24:58,494 --> 01:25:01,330 There's only $387,000 in your bank accounts 1386 01:25:01,464 --> 01:25:03,399 instead of the $800 million that you purport to have. 1387 01:25:03,532 --> 01:25:04,833 You just wait a minute. 1388 01:25:04,967 --> 01:25:06,935 You, Mr. Lewis, are running a Ponzi scheme. 1389 01:25:07,069 --> 01:25:09,472 No, you're the ex-con. You're running the scam. 1390 01:25:09,605 --> 01:25:10,806 I'm doing the work of God. 1391 01:25:10,939 --> 01:25:11,907 Hey, I said wait a minute. 1392 01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:13,442 Protecting the weak. 1393 01:25:13,576 --> 01:25:17,280 I'll see you tomorrow, LA Resort Hotel, 5:00 p. m. 1394 01:25:17,413 --> 01:25:19,047 Good night, Mr. Lewis. 1395 01:25:28,924 --> 01:25:31,227 Lisa, I wanted to tell you something, 1396 01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:34,363 but I wanted to make sure that it came out right. 1397 01:25:34,497 --> 01:25:35,798 So I wanted to be careful. 1398 01:25:35,931 --> 01:25:41,204 Barry, for once in your life, don't speak, okay? 1399 01:25:43,806 --> 01:25:45,974 Look, I just want to say that 1400 01:25:47,510 --> 01:25:51,347 I see the people who always second-guess your motives. 1401 01:25:51,480 --> 01:25:55,518 I see them. I see the people who always raise an eyebrow. 1402 01:25:55,651 --> 01:25:57,986 And I know that you struggle, okay? 1403 01:25:59,955 --> 01:26:01,457 I know that you struggle knowing that 1404 01:26:01,590 --> 01:26:05,127 most people deep down will never trust a word that you say. 1405 01:26:08,130 --> 01:26:10,065 I mean, 'cause let's be real, Barry, 1406 01:26:10,199 --> 01:26:13,202 most people will walk away, most people are going to just shake their heads 1407 01:26:13,336 --> 01:26:16,205 and steer clear of you and think that you're a con forever. 1408 01:26:19,875 --> 01:26:22,478 But that's not me. 1409 01:26:22,611 --> 01:26:26,382 I appreciate that more then you'll ever know. 1410 01:26:26,515 --> 01:26:31,920 I got nothing to offer you but a $26 million restitution order 1411 01:26:32,054 --> 01:26:34,790 and suspicious glares and grins every time 1412 01:26:34,923 --> 01:26:38,561 I walk by with you in some public arena. 1413 01:26:38,694 --> 01:26:40,296 But I will tell you this, 1414 01:26:42,298 --> 01:26:47,536 if I had to serve eight Super Bowls in prison again, 1415 01:26:47,670 --> 01:26:50,539 and knew that you'd be waiting for me when I got out, 1416 01:26:52,841 --> 01:26:54,910 I would go right back to prison. 1417 01:27:07,656 --> 01:27:09,258 Look, uh... 1418 01:27:10,626 --> 01:27:12,127 I can do this, right? 1419 01:27:12,261 --> 01:27:15,564 Yeah. I know you can do this. 1420 01:27:15,698 --> 01:27:16,865 Go get 'em. 1421 01:27:32,748 --> 01:27:34,383 I don't trust you, Minkow. 1422 01:27:34,517 --> 01:27:38,053 Hey, I'm here to work with you. I'm not a bad guy. 1423 01:27:38,186 --> 01:27:39,755 I'm a liar and a sinner saved by grace. 1424 01:27:39,888 --> 01:27:41,189 Stop it. 1425 01:27:41,324 --> 01:27:43,392 There's a lot of people involved with this fund. 1426 01:27:43,526 --> 01:27:45,728 Heavy hitters. It's not just me. 1427 01:27:45,861 --> 01:27:48,263 Listen, if you hurt me, 1428 01:27:48,397 --> 01:27:51,400 this goes to the FBI and the Journal. 1429 01:27:51,534 --> 01:27:54,437 I don't want to hurt you. I just need you to back off. 1430 01:28:05,213 --> 01:28:10,553 Well, I guess this won't be going to the FBI or the Journal. 1431 01:28:12,721 --> 01:28:16,825 But tell me, getting this much cash at this stage of your deal, 1432 01:28:16,959 --> 01:28:18,527 it was a bitch, wasn't it? 1433 01:28:18,661 --> 01:28:21,997 When you're giving 18% to 40% a year, the interest kills you. 1434 01:28:22,130 --> 01:28:23,399 Do the math. 1435 01:28:23,532 --> 01:28:26,301 Every day keeps you a little deeper in the hole. 1436 01:28:26,435 --> 01:28:30,439 I did the math and then I did eight Super Bowls in prison. 1437 01:28:30,573 --> 01:28:32,274 I'm not a criminal. 1438 01:28:32,408 --> 01:28:35,110 My investors double their money every three years. 1439 01:28:35,243 --> 01:28:38,113 But I had to make some risky investments 1440 01:28:38,246 --> 01:28:39,848 just to raise some money for the investors 1441 01:28:39,982 --> 01:28:41,584 that didn't use the trust fund. 1442 01:28:42,885 --> 01:28:44,987 Tough game we're in. 1443 01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,823 These hedge funds, totally unregulated. 1444 01:28:47,956 --> 01:28:49,057 I'll stay afloat. 1445 01:28:49,191 --> 01:28:50,626 I'll get it all back. 1446 01:28:50,759 --> 01:28:54,530 I just need to survive until one of my deals pay off big. 1447 01:28:54,663 --> 01:28:56,064 And then I'm home free. 1448 01:28:56,198 --> 01:28:58,834 All I need you to do is be quiet. 1449 01:28:58,967 --> 01:29:02,771 So, no money left in the fund? 1450 01:29:02,905 --> 01:29:04,373 More or less. 1451 01:29:08,977 --> 01:29:11,814 Olacane just a front company? 1452 01:29:11,947 --> 01:29:16,051 Olacane? Why are you asking about Olacane? 1453 01:29:16,184 --> 01:29:18,521 Just interested in how... 1454 01:29:18,654 --> 01:29:22,925 Uh, just, you know, interested in how other people do 1455 01:29:23,058 --> 01:29:25,928 things like I used to do. 1456 01:29:26,061 --> 01:29:27,530 Look, I've gotta go. 1457 01:29:27,663 --> 01:29:30,466 I hope you fellas enjoy the rest of your stay here in LA. 1458 01:29:30,599 --> 01:29:32,668 Catch a Clipper game or something. 1459 01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:38,774 What the... 1460 01:29:38,907 --> 01:29:41,410 Boss... Check him. 1461 01:29:41,544 --> 01:29:43,879 Shit, cover's blown, cover's blown. Move in. 1462 01:29:44,012 --> 01:29:45,481 What's this? 1463 01:29:46,615 --> 01:29:47,683 It's a wire. 1464 01:29:48,884 --> 01:29:50,285 You know something? Screw this job. 1465 01:29:56,992 --> 01:29:58,293 Don's money. 1466 01:30:03,932 --> 01:30:05,133 Come on. Come on. 1467 01:30:06,802 --> 01:30:08,236 Come on. 1468 01:30:17,813 --> 01:30:19,047 Freeze! FBI! 1469 01:30:19,181 --> 01:30:21,450 Drop the case! Down on the floor. 1470 01:30:23,385 --> 01:30:25,253 Stay right where you are. 1471 01:30:25,387 --> 01:30:27,122 Let's go. Down to base camp. 1472 01:30:34,362 --> 01:30:37,633 When I heard Barry was chasing after bad guys in his movie, 1473 01:30:37,766 --> 01:30:40,769 I said, "Come on, Barry. I mean, let's get real. 1474 01:30:40,903 --> 01:30:42,370 "There's no way you did this. 1475 01:30:42,505 --> 01:30:44,573 "You're not an action hero." 1476 01:30:50,345 --> 01:30:54,950 The FBI did credit Barry for his multiple efforts to uncover fraud. 1477 01:30:55,083 --> 01:30:57,319 But there was more to the story. 1478 01:30:57,452 --> 01:30:59,221 Hey, genius, come here. Yeah. 1479 01:30:59,354 --> 01:31:01,456 Let me ask you something. 1480 01:31:01,590 --> 01:31:03,526 What would you have done if you caught those guys? 1481 01:31:03,659 --> 01:31:05,193 They are kind of big, aren't they? 1482 01:31:06,361 --> 01:31:08,697 I learned in prison, in a shower of all places, 1483 01:31:08,831 --> 01:31:13,135 that when you do the right thing, God takes care of the details. 1484 01:31:16,872 --> 01:31:19,474 Good job, by the way. 1485 01:31:19,608 --> 01:31:20,843 Merry Christmas. 1486 01:31:23,912 --> 01:31:26,048 What's ironic here is that 1487 01:31:26,181 --> 01:31:31,253 while Barry was bragging about the $1.6 billion in fraud he'd uncovered, 1488 01:31:31,386 --> 01:31:33,956 he was hammering companies whose stock he'd shorted 1489 01:31:34,089 --> 01:31:39,194 in a series of attacks often based on misleading or false charges. 1490 01:31:39,327 --> 01:31:41,163 Causing not the companies 1491 01:31:41,296 --> 01:31:46,569 but thousands of innocent shareholders to lose well over $3 billion. 1492 01:31:46,702 --> 01:31:49,337 I always wondered why no one ever really talks about 1493 01:31:49,471 --> 01:31:52,741 how much he had cost all of those people. 1494 01:31:52,875 --> 01:31:57,646 Way more than any amount of fraud that he ever uncovered or prevented. 1495 01:31:57,780 --> 01:32:00,649 He was really on the right road, he had everything going for him 1496 01:32:00,783 --> 01:32:02,551 and to go this crazy, 1497 01:32:02,685 --> 01:32:05,487 to do the things that he did, even I was surprised. 1498 01:32:05,621 --> 01:32:07,856 And, look, not too much surprises me. 1499 01:32:07,990 --> 01:32:10,893 I've been on the street a long time and I've seen just about everything. 1500 01:32:11,026 --> 01:32:14,062 I don't think I've ever seen the extent of what Barry has done. 1501 01:32:14,196 --> 01:32:17,299 I mean, this was a Madoff type of thing. It turned out to be his downfall. 1502 01:32:17,432 --> 01:32:23,538 I watched Barry do an impassioned sermon that to me was unbelievable oratory. 1503 01:32:23,672 --> 01:32:28,877 And he would then follow that up after motivating his entire parish, 1504 01:32:29,011 --> 01:32:31,880 and go out in the lobby and accept a check from somebody 1505 01:32:32,014 --> 01:32:36,018 that he knew he was going to misappropriate and spend improperly. 1506 01:32:36,151 --> 01:32:39,855 I know we're supposed to forgive. As Christians, 1507 01:32:39,988 --> 01:32:41,857 we're supposed to forgive. 1508 01:32:41,990 --> 01:32:45,327 Maybe I can say I forgive, but I cannot forget. 1509 01:32:45,460 --> 01:32:48,496 I cannot ever forget what he has done. 1510 01:32:50,766 --> 01:32:53,235 He stole more than $3 million from the church personally, 1511 01:32:53,368 --> 01:32:58,974 and multiple millions of dollars from the people in the church privately. 1512 01:32:59,107 --> 01:33:04,312 And, boy, he took money in the millions from people, 1513 01:33:04,446 --> 01:33:05,781 but he took my reputation 1514 01:33:05,914 --> 01:33:09,451 at... Which, you could always get money back. 1515 01:33:09,584 --> 01:33:10,919 The comeback that he made 1516 01:33:11,053 --> 01:33:14,589 and the impact that he was truly making was worthy. 1517 01:33:14,723 --> 01:33:17,492 But that story didn't end the way it could have. 1518 01:33:17,626 --> 01:33:21,363 And I think when selfishness and greed come in there, it sent him back. 1519 01:33:21,496 --> 01:33:23,799 It was a very tragic ending. 1520 01:33:23,932 --> 01:33:28,170 And tragic not just for Barry, for the people that were hurt. 1521 01:33:28,303 --> 01:33:30,973 His whole life was an act. 1522 01:33:31,106 --> 01:33:34,409 His whole life was an act. 1523 01:33:34,542 --> 01:33:36,544 That's the bottom line. 1524 01:33:36,679 --> 01:33:39,581 Barry was a master storyteller. 1525 01:33:39,715 --> 01:33:42,384 So even with Peanut, for all I know 1526 01:33:42,517 --> 01:33:44,753 it was the same as Jimmy Stewart's Harvey the bunny. 1527 01:33:44,887 --> 01:33:48,123 I don't think the Peanut story was all true. 1528 01:33:48,256 --> 01:33:49,758 I think there was a Peanut, 1529 01:33:49,892 --> 01:33:53,896 but I don't think it went down like Barry said it went down. 1530 01:34:38,807 --> 01:34:43,411 This match right here is me and your life. 1531 01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:50,652 All the darkness in the world can't overcome the power of one light, 1532 01:34:50,786 --> 01:34:52,888 one person who believes in you. 1533 01:34:54,589 --> 01:34:56,658 Don't ever forget that. 1534 01:34:59,127 --> 01:35:00,562 Ever. 119106

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