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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,235 --> 00:00:02,976 NARRATOR: In the criminal justice system 2 00:00:03,070 --> 00:00:06,916 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups, 3 00:00:06,974 --> 00:00:08,817 the police who investigate crime 4 00:00:08,876 --> 00:00:11,618 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:11,712 --> 00:00:13,487 These are their stories. 6 00:00:15,048 --> 00:00:16,356 MAN: Okay, you're clear. 7 00:00:19,286 --> 00:00:20,731 You're good to go, Frank. 8 00:00:37,771 --> 00:00:39,148 POLLACK: Nice take-off, Frankie. 9 00:00:39,306 --> 00:00:42,082 You keep this up, you could land on a dime, make change. 10 00:00:43,277 --> 00:00:44,347 That was a joke, Frank. 11 00:00:44,411 --> 00:00:46,550 FRANK: Okay. I'm sorry. 12 00:00:47,381 --> 00:00:49,588 Five, plus pilot on board, Robby. 13 00:00:50,050 --> 00:00:52,530 Frank, you got a four minute ETA to JFK Radar. 14 00:00:52,586 --> 00:00:54,964 Wind's south-southeast at 12. Visibility, five miles. 15 00:00:55,022 --> 00:00:57,024 (STATIC) 16 00:00:57,090 --> 00:00:58,262 I didn't read you, Frank. Say again? 17 00:00:58,325 --> 00:00:59,497 (BEEPING AND COMMOTION IN BACKGROUND) 18 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:00,868 Oh, God. Oh, God! 19 00:01:00,928 --> 00:01:02,805 Lewin Heli Flight 6947, this is control. 20 00:01:02,863 --> 00:01:03,967 Do you wish to declare an emergency? 21 00:01:04,031 --> 00:01:05,101 (PEOPLE SCREAMING) 22 00:01:05,165 --> 00:01:07,304 Lewin Heli Flight 6947, Frank? (EXPLODING) 23 00:01:07,367 --> 00:01:09,176 Robby, call 911! 24 00:01:11,805 --> 00:01:13,910 LEWIN: I've seen them go down before, not like this. 25 00:01:13,974 --> 00:01:15,044 Fell like a rock. 26 00:01:15,108 --> 00:01:16,951 Six on board, including the pilot. 27 00:01:17,010 --> 00:01:19,115 We're gonna need names, addresses, next of kin. 28 00:01:19,179 --> 00:01:20,283 I'll get on it now. 29 00:01:20,347 --> 00:01:22,759 The bureau wants the names withheld, pending investigation. 30 00:01:22,816 --> 00:01:23,988 ED: What about the pilot? 31 00:01:24,051 --> 00:01:26,725 Frank Naransky. Decorated chopper pilot from Vietnam. 32 00:01:26,787 --> 00:01:29,063 Two tours. Shot down twice. 33 00:01:29,122 --> 00:01:30,396 Third time's the charm. 34 00:01:30,457 --> 00:01:32,198 When was the last maintenance on the helicopter? 35 00:01:32,259 --> 00:01:33,329 Last week. 36 00:01:33,393 --> 00:01:35,464 Frank already made two runs to JFK this morning. 37 00:01:35,796 --> 00:01:36,797 No problems. 38 00:01:37,064 --> 00:01:38,702 We'll need the service records. 39 00:01:40,367 --> 00:01:41,778 What's it look like? 40 00:01:42,636 --> 00:01:45,583 Chopper's structurally intact. We got three more bodies to pull out. 41 00:01:46,173 --> 00:01:47,174 Bomb damage? 42 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:48,583 Nothing that punctured the envelope. 43 00:01:48,942 --> 00:01:51,013 But the luggage compartment looks bad. 44 00:01:51,078 --> 00:01:52,216 So it was a bomb? 45 00:01:52,613 --> 00:01:56,220 We got debris, burn marks. Could be a bomb. Could be mechanical failure. 46 00:01:56,783 --> 00:01:59,127 Whatever it was, it's gonna give us nightmares. 47 00:02:50,937 --> 00:02:52,974 STARK: Luggage compartment, back of the chopper. 48 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:54,378 From the scarring on the metal, 49 00:02:54,441 --> 00:02:56,421 slight tinting rather than major shearing, 50 00:02:56,476 --> 00:02:59,252 seems it was a low order of explosive. Not high tech. 51 00:02:59,379 --> 00:03:00,517 Probably dynamite. 52 00:03:00,580 --> 00:03:02,059 Where was it? In a piece of luggage? 53 00:03:02,115 --> 00:03:03,822 That's the million dollar question. 54 00:03:03,884 --> 00:03:05,329 There's a lot of damage to the luggage, 55 00:03:05,385 --> 00:03:08,127 but mostly from the crash itself, not the explosion. 56 00:03:08,555 --> 00:03:10,193 The initial explosion wasn't that powerful. 57 00:03:10,257 --> 00:03:11,497 It did the trick. 58 00:03:11,558 --> 00:03:15,370 We're not talking Osama bin Laden here. Bomb wasn't sophisticated. 59 00:03:15,462 --> 00:03:17,533 If it had been, I wouldn't have luggage to look at. 60 00:03:17,664 --> 00:03:19,575 We talking a timer or an altimeter? 61 00:03:19,666 --> 00:03:21,339 I haven't found pieces from either. 62 00:03:21,401 --> 00:03:23,608 No telling when the bomb was set to detonate. 63 00:03:23,670 --> 00:03:25,377 It might've detonated prematurely? 64 00:03:25,439 --> 00:03:26,850 Strong possibility. 65 00:03:26,940 --> 00:03:29,250 These people were all bound for JFK flights. 66 00:03:29,309 --> 00:03:31,186 The bomb could've been meant for a jet. 67 00:03:31,244 --> 00:03:32,348 We'll cover that end. 68 00:03:32,412 --> 00:03:34,483 When can we get a definitive answer on the luggage? 69 00:03:34,681 --> 00:03:37,321 I'm not sure. We're working as fast as we can. 70 00:03:37,517 --> 00:03:40,361 All right. Check out passengers, pilots, 71 00:03:40,420 --> 00:03:41,865 anyone who might've come in contact 72 00:03:41,922 --> 00:03:43,993 with this chopper before it took off. 73 00:03:46,893 --> 00:03:49,464 LEWIN: I thought it was a maintenance problem, now it's a bomb? 74 00:03:49,529 --> 00:03:51,531 I'm sure your lawyers will be relieved. 75 00:03:52,532 --> 00:03:53,636 Not my point, of course. 76 00:03:53,700 --> 00:03:56,044 Of course. Can I see your flight manifest? 77 00:03:57,871 --> 00:03:59,817 Mr. Lewin, who loaded the bags? 78 00:04:00,173 --> 00:04:02,710 Our people, all long-term employees. 79 00:04:03,143 --> 00:04:04,554 ED: Any grudges you know about? 80 00:04:04,611 --> 00:04:06,318 I pay my guys well. They got good bennies. 81 00:04:06,413 --> 00:04:08,689 Union says I gotta do this or that. I go four steps better. 82 00:04:08,748 --> 00:04:10,489 Just a generous guy, huh? 83 00:04:10,550 --> 00:04:12,723 Just good business sense. Turnover costs can kill you. 84 00:04:12,786 --> 00:04:14,459 Anyone else have access to the luggage? 85 00:04:14,654 --> 00:04:17,157 Just my guys. Passenger hands one of them the bags, 86 00:04:17,224 --> 00:04:18,294 he puts it on board. 87 00:04:18,725 --> 00:04:20,602 So where were you when the flight was loading? 88 00:04:20,660 --> 00:04:22,799 My helicopters. I'm always here. I check with the pilot. 89 00:04:22,863 --> 00:04:24,274 ED: Naransky? Yeah. 90 00:04:24,331 --> 00:04:26,607 Just before he took off, I gave him a thumbs up and I headed back in. 91 00:04:26,767 --> 00:04:30,738 Passengers Elliot and Janelle Patchett, and their daughter, Ally. 92 00:04:31,004 --> 00:04:33,314 Yeah. Kid looked to be about five. 93 00:04:33,373 --> 00:04:36,354 Joseph A. Callister. Talk to any of these people? 94 00:04:36,409 --> 00:04:37,786 No. Saw them board, is all. 95 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,122 Tony Rollins. 96 00:04:41,181 --> 00:04:43,559 Changed his reservation five times. 97 00:04:43,617 --> 00:04:46,359 It happens, if they can't get the flight they want out of JFK. 98 00:04:46,419 --> 00:04:48,160 Rollins was bound for DC. 99 00:04:48,221 --> 00:04:50,258 Um, a lot of people go to DC. Yeah. 100 00:04:50,323 --> 00:04:52,599 Lobbyists, politicians, government officials. 101 00:04:52,659 --> 00:04:54,297 If someone's looking to make a statement... 102 00:04:55,996 --> 00:04:59,273 Gibney Telecom, Rollins' employer in Albany, 103 00:04:59,366 --> 00:05:01,744 says Rollins comes to New York three or four times a month. 104 00:05:01,802 --> 00:05:05,249 Six trips to Montana in the last four months and a couple to Wyoming. 105 00:05:05,405 --> 00:05:07,510 Guy's got permits for four guns. 106 00:05:07,574 --> 00:05:11,249 Oh, audited by the IRS two times in the last eight years. 107 00:05:11,411 --> 00:05:13,982 A disgruntled taxpayer on his way to DC? 108 00:05:14,047 --> 00:05:17,290 Hey, he's the only passenger that doesn't look like he's been dipped in Pine-Sol. 109 00:05:17,350 --> 00:05:20,058 Well, I guess we're going to Albany. 110 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,224 Yeah. 111 00:05:25,091 --> 00:05:27,230 I wanted to go to New York. 112 00:05:28,595 --> 00:05:30,472 To claim my husband's body. 113 00:05:32,165 --> 00:05:34,805 The FBI told me they weren't releasing any of them yet. 114 00:05:37,070 --> 00:05:39,209 I have children to care for. 115 00:05:40,774 --> 00:05:43,015 I don't understand. How do I know it's him? 116 00:05:43,343 --> 00:05:45,118 Tony wasn't supposed to be in New York. 117 00:05:45,178 --> 00:05:46,282 What? 118 00:05:46,346 --> 00:05:49,259 He told me he was going to DC on Thursday. 119 00:05:49,316 --> 00:05:51,557 He couldn't have been on that helicopter the next day. 120 00:05:53,253 --> 00:05:56,427 Mrs. Rollins, is this your husband? 121 00:05:57,424 --> 00:05:59,335 (GASPING) Oh, my God! 122 00:06:00,293 --> 00:06:01,328 I'm sorry. 123 00:06:01,394 --> 00:06:04,238 Mrs. Rollins, did your husband have a problem with the government? 124 00:06:04,865 --> 00:06:06,037 A grudge against the IRS? 125 00:06:06,099 --> 00:06:07,134 No. 126 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,440 Why would you ask that? 127 00:06:08,501 --> 00:06:09,673 He had two audits. 128 00:06:11,238 --> 00:06:12,649 His accountant handled it. 129 00:06:13,206 --> 00:06:15,982 Mrs. Rollins, these people are with our Crime Scene Unit, 130 00:06:16,042 --> 00:06:17,578 we need them to take a look around. 131 00:06:18,979 --> 00:06:20,981 Why? You think he did this? 132 00:06:21,081 --> 00:06:24,722 We have to check on everybody. Can we get your permission? 133 00:06:28,488 --> 00:06:31,094 Uh, do you know who he saw in Montana? 134 00:06:32,359 --> 00:06:34,168 No. It was work. 135 00:06:34,828 --> 00:06:36,068 ED: How about Wyoming? 136 00:06:37,030 --> 00:06:38,805 It was for his work. 137 00:06:39,065 --> 00:06:40,601 Well, who did he know in New York? 138 00:06:40,667 --> 00:06:42,704 He just went in for business when he had to. 139 00:06:42,769 --> 00:06:43,804 He hated New York. 140 00:06:44,204 --> 00:06:45,706 Did you talk to him on Thursday? 141 00:06:49,276 --> 00:06:50,880 He never called. 142 00:06:52,779 --> 00:06:55,385 Instead, I get a call from the police. 143 00:06:57,717 --> 00:06:59,628 He's never coming home. 144 00:07:05,759 --> 00:07:07,830 Nothing suspicious about his travels. 145 00:07:07,894 --> 00:07:10,067 Montana and Wyoming are hot territories for us. 146 00:07:10,263 --> 00:07:11,970 And the tax audits? Was he upset about them? 147 00:07:12,032 --> 00:07:13,705 Wouldn't you be? But he handled it. 148 00:07:13,767 --> 00:07:15,405 Tony took everything in stride. 149 00:07:15,468 --> 00:07:16,811 Where was he on Thursday? 150 00:07:16,870 --> 00:07:19,612 Supposed to be in Washington. Said he was talking to some lobbyist. 151 00:07:19,673 --> 00:07:21,050 That's what his wife thought, too. 152 00:07:21,107 --> 00:07:22,677 He have a habit of disappearing? 153 00:07:22,742 --> 00:07:24,050 Tony did his job well. 154 00:07:24,110 --> 00:07:27,114 I figured he was where he told me when he told me. 155 00:07:27,180 --> 00:07:29,456 Did you handle his travel arrangements, Miss Ippolito? 156 00:07:30,116 --> 00:07:31,959 Most of the time, yes. 157 00:07:32,552 --> 00:07:35,829 Did you, uh, did you book these tickets to Washington on Friday? 158 00:07:37,757 --> 00:07:39,259 Cheryl, if you know something... 159 00:07:39,326 --> 00:07:40,737 He said he had to stay in New York. 160 00:07:40,827 --> 00:07:42,135 He tell you why? 161 00:07:42,595 --> 00:07:44,165 Personal matter. I didn't ask. 162 00:07:44,230 --> 00:07:45,937 ED: When was the last time you talked to him? 163 00:07:45,999 --> 00:07:47,342 Friday morning. He was in a rush. 164 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:48,936 He asked me to call the hotel, 165 00:07:49,002 --> 00:07:51,915 arrange to have his luggage waiting him at the JFK Heliport. 166 00:07:52,405 --> 00:07:54,908 Here it is. Two pieces. 167 00:07:55,909 --> 00:07:59,118 Tote bag, standard suitcase. 168 00:07:59,479 --> 00:08:01,618 Anthony Rollins, Albany, New York. 169 00:08:01,748 --> 00:08:05,958 Shaving kit, toothbrush, toothpaste, 170 00:08:06,086 --> 00:08:10,592 aftershave, box of condoms, half used. 171 00:08:10,657 --> 00:08:13,536 Victoria's Secret receipt, dated Thursday. 172 00:08:14,027 --> 00:08:16,940 Bra and panty set, size two. 173 00:08:17,464 --> 00:08:18,738 Wife was at least a six. 174 00:08:18,798 --> 00:08:20,334 That explains the condoms. 175 00:08:20,934 --> 00:08:24,108 You're gonna blow up a plane, you spend your last night with some bimbo? 176 00:08:24,337 --> 00:08:25,975 You'd think he'd spend it with his kids. 177 00:08:26,139 --> 00:08:28,346 You notice anybody waiting for the chopper to get here? 178 00:08:28,408 --> 00:08:30,115 Couple of business people. Regulars. 179 00:08:30,176 --> 00:08:32,019 BRISCOE: Nothing suspicious? No. 180 00:08:32,078 --> 00:08:33,648 So nothing unusual that morning? 181 00:08:33,713 --> 00:08:35,818 Just a little late getting off the last trip back to Manhattan. 182 00:08:35,882 --> 00:08:36,883 Why late? 183 00:08:36,950 --> 00:08:38,896 The pilot, Frank Naransky. He was on the phone. 184 00:08:40,286 --> 00:08:41,629 He usually hold things up? 185 00:08:41,688 --> 00:08:43,190 No. Frank was by the book. 186 00:08:43,323 --> 00:08:44,393 Except this time. 187 00:08:44,691 --> 00:08:46,762 Even when we called the return flight to Manhattan, 188 00:08:46,826 --> 00:08:48,567 he stayed on the phone, made a few more calls. 189 00:08:48,828 --> 00:08:50,068 You talk to him about it? 190 00:08:50,130 --> 00:08:51,370 He told me to back off. 191 00:08:51,664 --> 00:08:54,076 He was into his conversation. Seemed angry. 192 00:08:54,434 --> 00:08:55,572 Didn't know if it was with me 193 00:08:55,635 --> 00:08:56,909 or the person he was talking to. 194 00:08:56,970 --> 00:08:58,916 Who was he talking to? No idea. 195 00:08:59,406 --> 00:09:02,785 But every time he hung up he put in more coins, dialed again. 196 00:09:03,043 --> 00:09:04,647 Flight left 10 minutes late. 197 00:09:07,881 --> 00:09:10,122 You can insist on talking to my sister all you want, 198 00:09:10,183 --> 00:09:11,423 but I'm telling you, she is too upset. 199 00:09:11,484 --> 00:09:14,624 Your brother-in-law called home three times from JFK. 200 00:09:14,687 --> 00:09:16,030 We need to know what he told his wife. 201 00:09:16,089 --> 00:09:17,466 I don't care whether he called her every 30 seconds. 202 00:09:17,524 --> 00:09:18,628 Maybe he wanted to tell her he loved her. 203 00:09:18,691 --> 00:09:19,897 Mr. Cusack... Look, 204 00:09:19,959 --> 00:09:23,338 that's it, you know? She'll call you when she's ready, okay? Goodbye. 205 00:09:25,165 --> 00:09:27,509 Give her a couple of hours, take another run at it. 206 00:09:27,567 --> 00:09:30,741 The next phone number on the list is Schirloff and Company. 207 00:09:32,505 --> 00:09:33,540 You're sure about the calls? 208 00:09:33,606 --> 00:09:36,052 Two of them. From JFK to your extension. 209 00:09:36,109 --> 00:09:38,248 Frank Naransky. Oh, yeah. 210 00:09:38,478 --> 00:09:39,513 Bad news. 211 00:09:39,579 --> 00:09:42,025 Yeah. He died along with five other people. 212 00:09:42,082 --> 00:09:43,561 I didn't mean that. 213 00:09:43,650 --> 00:09:46,028 His wife, Patricia, she has lupus. 214 00:09:46,086 --> 00:09:47,463 Naransky was on the warpath. 215 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,229 Wanted the company to pay for a kidney transplant to get her off dialysis. 216 00:09:51,324 --> 00:09:52,667 Is that so unusual? 217 00:09:52,725 --> 00:09:55,467 Patty Naransky was sick, dialysis once a week. 218 00:09:55,528 --> 00:09:57,337 One doctor pushing for the operation. 219 00:09:57,397 --> 00:10:00,606 But our doctors say she's getting better, the treatment's working. 220 00:10:00,667 --> 00:10:02,704 Which doesn't qualify her for a transplant? 221 00:10:02,769 --> 00:10:04,442 Which makes it elective surgery. 222 00:10:04,504 --> 00:10:06,177 She doesn't need a transplant. 223 00:10:06,439 --> 00:10:08,146 And Naransky didn't get this? 224 00:10:08,208 --> 00:10:12,122 He didn't want her to suffer any more dialysis, more hospital stays. 225 00:10:12,645 --> 00:10:13,749 Big battle. 226 00:10:13,813 --> 00:10:17,158 Naransky wrote letters, called two times a day in the last couple of weeks. 227 00:10:17,217 --> 00:10:18,924 How much money are we talking about? 228 00:10:18,985 --> 00:10:21,795 200,000 for an unnecessary procedure. 229 00:10:22,355 --> 00:10:24,392 So did you talk to him that Friday? 230 00:10:24,457 --> 00:10:25,959 No. We knew what he wanted 231 00:10:26,025 --> 00:10:27,868 and we didn't want to hear it anymore. 232 00:10:28,328 --> 00:10:29,830 Our hands were tied. 233 00:10:30,663 --> 00:10:32,199 I bet. 234 00:10:33,166 --> 00:10:35,168 BRISCOE: His bank says he tried to get a loan. 235 00:10:35,235 --> 00:10:37,545 But who's gonna put up 200 grand for a procedure 236 00:10:37,604 --> 00:10:39,345 the HMO hasn't green lighted? 237 00:10:39,405 --> 00:10:40,907 What are his finances like? 238 00:10:40,974 --> 00:10:43,113 Second on the house. Took his oldest son out of college, 239 00:10:43,176 --> 00:10:44,814 sent him to a JC to save money. 240 00:10:44,878 --> 00:10:46,482 A man in a deep hole. 241 00:10:46,613 --> 00:10:48,217 Okay, it's all set up. 242 00:10:48,281 --> 00:10:49,885 Listen close. The first voice we're gonna hear 243 00:10:49,949 --> 00:10:51,758 is the controller at the heliport. 244 00:10:51,818 --> 00:10:54,264 POLLACK: Frank, you got a four minute ETA to JFK Radar. 245 00:10:54,354 --> 00:10:56,664 POLLACK: Winds south-southeast at 12. Visibility, five miles. 246 00:10:56,723 --> 00:10:58,134 (STATIC) 247 00:10:58,191 --> 00:10:59,363 Didn't read you, Frank. Say again? 248 00:10:59,459 --> 00:11:01,063 (PEOPLE SCREAMING) FRANK: Oh, my God! 249 00:11:01,127 --> 00:11:02,731 Well, that clears things up. 250 00:11:03,163 --> 00:11:05,268 PAYDEN: It will if we reduce the static, 251 00:11:05,365 --> 00:11:08,608 pull up the voice print and slam out interference. 252 00:11:08,835 --> 00:11:11,076 BRISCOE: If it's Michael Bolton, I'm out of here. 253 00:11:11,171 --> 00:11:12,548 (CHUCKLES) Okay, here we go. 254 00:11:13,807 --> 00:11:15,184 Visibility five miles. 255 00:11:15,241 --> 00:11:17,448 FRANK: I'm sorry. Didn't read you, Frank. Say again? 256 00:11:17,510 --> 00:11:20,116 I'm sorry... Just tell them I'm sorry. 257 00:11:20,513 --> 00:11:22,652 (SCREAMING) Oh, God. 258 00:11:22,749 --> 00:11:25,195 Lewin Heli Flight 6947 this is control. Do you wish to... 259 00:11:27,053 --> 00:11:29,033 Frank had his flight bag. What was in it? 260 00:11:29,155 --> 00:11:31,533 Aftershave, clean socks, personal stuff. 261 00:11:31,591 --> 00:11:33,969 Did Naransky carry-on anything besides the bag? 262 00:11:34,027 --> 00:11:35,062 Just his bag. 263 00:11:35,128 --> 00:11:36,698 You and Naransky, what'd you talk about? 264 00:11:36,763 --> 00:11:37,901 Nothing really. Chitchat. 265 00:11:37,964 --> 00:11:38,999 You known him long? 266 00:11:39,065 --> 00:11:40,738 Twenty years. My best pilot. 267 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,905 So, if he had a problem, you'd cover for him? 268 00:11:42,969 --> 00:11:44,812 Much as I like someone, I'm not gonna cover for someone 269 00:11:44,871 --> 00:11:46,578 who turns five people into pancake batter. 270 00:11:46,639 --> 00:11:48,516 BRISCOE: Yeah. But if you didn't suspect... 271 00:11:50,710 --> 00:11:52,314 Mr. Lewin... 272 00:11:52,512 --> 00:11:53,923 It's not what Frank said. 273 00:11:53,980 --> 00:11:55,015 Attitude? 274 00:11:55,348 --> 00:11:56,793 Yeah. I thought it was more of the usual, you know? 275 00:11:56,849 --> 00:11:58,487 Patty's so sick. Stress. 276 00:11:58,551 --> 00:12:00,121 Enough stress for him to lose it? 277 00:12:00,853 --> 00:12:04,699 Guy flew 168 missions in Nam, scooping grunts out of rice paddies. 278 00:12:04,757 --> 00:12:06,862 He was gonna lose it, he'd have done it then. 279 00:12:06,926 --> 00:12:09,304 But he said or did something that day to concern you? 280 00:12:09,362 --> 00:12:12,571 He was tired, all right? He told me he wasn't sure he could take it anymore. 281 00:12:12,632 --> 00:12:14,134 Meaning what, the job? 282 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,804 Meaning he needed a vacation. 283 00:12:16,102 --> 00:12:19,345 But maybe Frank was tired or upset, but this guy, 284 00:12:19,405 --> 00:12:20,782 he was a religious man. 285 00:12:21,307 --> 00:12:23,753 Risky business, piloting a chopper. 286 00:12:23,943 --> 00:12:25,115 He carried big-time insurance. 287 00:12:25,178 --> 00:12:27,317 Union insurance. Insurance through us. 288 00:12:27,914 --> 00:12:30,019 Most of them carry private insurance, too. 289 00:12:30,617 --> 00:12:32,255 Might add up to 200 grand. 290 00:12:33,887 --> 00:12:36,390 I know my husband. It wasn't suicide. 291 00:12:36,589 --> 00:12:39,263 We know you had a pretty big financial burden. 292 00:12:39,325 --> 00:12:40,668 Frank was under the gun. 293 00:12:41,628 --> 00:12:45,474 My brother was helping Gonna raise money for the transplant costs. 294 00:12:45,531 --> 00:12:46,703 ED: Two hundred K? 295 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:48,508 I'm trying to mortgage my condo. 296 00:12:48,568 --> 00:12:50,047 That's gonna bring in... What? 297 00:12:50,103 --> 00:12:51,639 Not enough, okay. 298 00:12:51,704 --> 00:12:53,377 I got about 50,000 in equity. 299 00:12:53,940 --> 00:12:56,648 Mrs. Naransky, we know your husband had insurance. 300 00:12:56,709 --> 00:12:58,382 Over a million by our reckoning. 301 00:12:58,444 --> 00:13:01,721 And you know what? They determine he committed suicide, 302 00:13:01,781 --> 00:13:02,885 they don't pay. 303 00:13:02,949 --> 00:13:04,553 Think a man desperate to save his wife 304 00:13:04,617 --> 00:13:06,597 is gonna leave her with no way to save herself? 305 00:13:09,689 --> 00:13:10,997 The bomb was in a small cardboard box, 306 00:13:11,057 --> 00:13:13,731 probably inside a paper bag, in the luggage compartment. 307 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,234 Maybe a gift box. 308 00:13:15,295 --> 00:13:16,535 Hell of a surprise. 309 00:13:16,696 --> 00:13:18,471 Any chance of getting prints off the box? 310 00:13:18,531 --> 00:13:21,512 Not with our equipment. I've sent it over to the Feds. 311 00:13:21,567 --> 00:13:23,945 See that dark loop on the top of that one protruding piece? 312 00:13:24,003 --> 00:13:26,142 ED: Looks like letters, T and a Y. 313 00:13:26,205 --> 00:13:27,741 Yeah. I was hoping it was a watermark, 314 00:13:27,807 --> 00:13:29,514 but there's nothing in the American register. 315 00:13:29,575 --> 00:13:31,782 We're trying European and Asian markings now. 316 00:13:32,178 --> 00:13:33,680 Hey, it looks like it was red. 317 00:13:33,746 --> 00:13:34,816 Can't be sure. 318 00:13:34,881 --> 00:13:37,987 Color can change from exposure, a fading element. 319 00:13:38,084 --> 00:13:39,859 Yeah, but... 320 00:13:40,853 --> 00:13:43,493 Red box. Koty and Sons? 321 00:13:43,656 --> 00:13:45,693 The gift shop on Madison Avenue? Yeah. 322 00:13:45,758 --> 00:13:47,999 You picturing Naransky doing his Christmas shopping there? 323 00:13:48,061 --> 00:13:49,335 It's a start. 324 00:13:49,395 --> 00:13:50,601 It's a hunch. 325 00:13:52,865 --> 00:13:54,811 I don't see a purchase by a Naransky. 326 00:13:54,867 --> 00:13:56,847 Maybe something shipped to a Naransky? 327 00:13:56,903 --> 00:13:58,382 This high-grade cardboard, 328 00:13:58,471 --> 00:14:00,781 we only use it in the smaller size gift boxes, 329 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,183 it's about nine by five. 330 00:14:02,308 --> 00:14:03,810 BRISCOE: Could you check for us? 331 00:14:03,876 --> 00:14:06,322 Maybe a humidor, very popular items. 332 00:14:06,379 --> 00:14:08,381 They'd fit the dimensions of the box. 333 00:14:09,515 --> 00:14:12,496 No purchase by a Naransky. No shipping to a Naransky. 334 00:14:12,719 --> 00:14:14,665 Would you have a record if he paid cash? 335 00:14:14,721 --> 00:14:16,462 Our patrons rarely pay cash. 336 00:14:16,522 --> 00:14:19,560 How about anything in that size in the week before the ninth? 337 00:14:21,294 --> 00:14:23,399 A clock, sent out of state. 338 00:14:23,496 --> 00:14:24,736 A man's accessory box. 339 00:14:24,797 --> 00:14:25,867 ED: Who bought it? 340 00:14:25,932 --> 00:14:26,967 The name's Callister. 341 00:14:27,033 --> 00:14:28,137 BRISCOE: Joseph Callister? 342 00:14:28,401 --> 00:14:30,176 No. An M. Callister. 343 00:14:30,403 --> 00:14:32,940 Close enough. Callister, the passenger bound for Indianapolis. 344 00:14:33,006 --> 00:14:35,247 Next of kin, Maggie Callister. 345 00:14:36,642 --> 00:14:40,283 I haven't seen Mrs. Callister in at least three weeks. 346 00:14:40,346 --> 00:14:41,916 Before her husband died? Yeah. 347 00:14:41,981 --> 00:14:43,688 Did you see Mr. Callister the morning he died? 348 00:14:43,750 --> 00:14:46,629 Yeah. I got him a cab. He was going out to JFK. 349 00:14:46,853 --> 00:14:49,959 I told him I heard on the radio that the tunnel was blocked. 350 00:14:50,023 --> 00:14:52,503 So he decided to go to the heliport instead. 351 00:14:54,761 --> 00:14:57,537 Mrs. LaSasso. She lives next door to the Callisters. 352 00:14:57,597 --> 00:14:59,907 These detectives are looking for Mrs. Callister. 353 00:14:59,999 --> 00:15:01,103 Well, I haven't seen her. 354 00:15:01,167 --> 00:15:02,237 Any idea where she is? 355 00:15:02,368 --> 00:15:05,042 I would've said divorce court, but I guess that's moot now. 356 00:15:05,204 --> 00:15:07,810 Yeah, I guess. Callisters didn't get along, huh? 357 00:15:08,074 --> 00:15:10,350 Voices raised in anger, doors slamming. 358 00:15:10,610 --> 00:15:12,055 You know what they were arguing about? 359 00:15:12,512 --> 00:15:16,050 Just screaming. I wasn't eavesdropping, Officer. 360 00:15:16,282 --> 00:15:17,852 BRISCOE: Do you have any idea where she might've gone? 361 00:15:17,917 --> 00:15:20,898 I think she had family in Indiana. Besides that, I don't know. 362 00:15:21,387 --> 00:15:22,388 Thank you. 363 00:15:22,455 --> 00:15:24,093 If Mrs. Callister shows up, give us a call. 364 00:15:24,157 --> 00:15:25,227 Sure. 365 00:15:25,291 --> 00:15:28,932 Knock-down, drag-out. I wonder if she even bothered to claim the body? 366 00:15:34,767 --> 00:15:36,178 What can we do for you, Detectives? 367 00:15:36,235 --> 00:15:38,146 BRISCOE: Just come from the coroner's office. 368 00:15:38,204 --> 00:15:40,480 They gave us this address for Maggie Callister. 369 00:15:40,573 --> 00:15:42,246 Yes. Maggie's been staying with us, 370 00:15:42,308 --> 00:15:45,346 which explains why she gave this address when she claimed Joe's body. 371 00:15:45,411 --> 00:15:47,357 She's not here now, though. She's returned to work. 372 00:15:47,413 --> 00:15:48,949 How long has she been staying here? 373 00:15:49,015 --> 00:15:51,154 ELIAS: On and off, for a couple of weeks. 374 00:15:51,217 --> 00:15:53,128 Since before her husband's death? 375 00:15:53,186 --> 00:15:55,063 Joe stayed here a few nights as well. 376 00:15:55,121 --> 00:15:56,566 BRISCOE: Nice bed and breakfast. 377 00:15:56,622 --> 00:15:59,296 They're having their apartment painted. Putting it on the market. 378 00:15:59,358 --> 00:16:01,497 We heard they were having marital problems. 379 00:16:01,561 --> 00:16:03,040 If so, we never heard. 380 00:16:03,095 --> 00:16:05,473 Neighbor said they were really going at it. 381 00:16:05,531 --> 00:16:07,408 They have strong personalities. 382 00:16:07,467 --> 00:16:10,107 So do we. Nothing unhealthy about that. (CHUCKLING) 383 00:16:10,770 --> 00:16:13,273 Doesn't it feel great when you say what you feel? 384 00:16:13,339 --> 00:16:15,182 I tried that with my first wife. 385 00:16:15,341 --> 00:16:17,048 How long have you known the Callisters? 386 00:16:17,143 --> 00:16:19,623 Uh, we met at a rare books auction last year. 387 00:16:19,679 --> 00:16:23,024 We were bidding on the same first edition of Sanders' Geografica. 388 00:16:23,983 --> 00:16:25,724 If you'll excuse me for saying so, uh, 389 00:16:25,785 --> 00:16:28,425 you and the Callisters hardly seem to be in the same league. 390 00:16:28,487 --> 00:16:30,433 It's just appearances, Detective. 391 00:16:30,523 --> 00:16:32,628 If you have more questions, you should ask Maggie. 392 00:16:32,692 --> 00:16:34,171 Excuse us. 393 00:16:38,664 --> 00:16:41,304 I had something to do with Joe's life, Detectives, 394 00:16:41,667 --> 00:16:43,112 not his death. 395 00:16:43,169 --> 00:16:45,911 I'm sorry. We have to ask these questions to... 396 00:16:46,005 --> 00:16:47,746 To cover your bases. Well... 397 00:16:49,308 --> 00:16:50,912 You're off base. 398 00:16:51,310 --> 00:16:53,449 Mrs. Callister, uh, 399 00:16:53,513 --> 00:16:57,655 did you purchase a man's accessory box at Koty and Sons? 400 00:16:58,918 --> 00:17:02,593 I shop there often, I can't remember every purchase. 401 00:17:02,655 --> 00:17:05,568 This you'd remember. A few days before your husband's death. 402 00:17:06,659 --> 00:17:08,502 Uh, I... I'm sorry. 403 00:17:08,561 --> 00:17:11,167 Uh, your neighbor, Mrs. LaSasso, 404 00:17:11,230 --> 00:17:12,800 says she heard you two arguing. 405 00:17:12,865 --> 00:17:16,108 Ellen LaSasso is a very nice old woman. 406 00:17:16,569 --> 00:17:19,379 But my husband and I were still very much in love. 407 00:17:20,940 --> 00:17:22,681 Pretty early to be back to work. 408 00:17:23,943 --> 00:17:28,449 If I sit in one place too long and dwell on Joe's death, I will fall apart. 409 00:17:29,982 --> 00:17:32,758 Were they selling to buy a bigger place or to buy two places? 410 00:17:32,818 --> 00:17:36,265 Can't find anything but the primary real estate listing for sale. 411 00:17:36,322 --> 00:17:39,326 There's no bids on prospective property, nothing in escrow. 412 00:17:39,392 --> 00:17:41,338 Their bank accounts have minimum balances. 413 00:17:41,394 --> 00:17:43,704 Joint account had just enough to cover their nut. 414 00:17:43,763 --> 00:17:45,265 Well, how much were these people making? 415 00:17:45,331 --> 00:17:48,574 She's a partner in an ad firm. He owns a dot-com book company 416 00:17:48,634 --> 00:17:49,977 that just went public last year. 417 00:17:50,036 --> 00:17:52,846 Mid six figures a month, we can't find any of it. 418 00:17:52,905 --> 00:17:56,079 When someone's thinking divorce, they hide assets. 419 00:17:56,275 --> 00:17:58,846 Maybe that's what Maggie Callister was afraid of. 420 00:17:58,911 --> 00:18:02,154 But if the husband dies, she inherits all the hidden assets. 421 00:18:02,915 --> 00:18:05,225 Did she strike you as the happy bomb maker? 422 00:18:05,284 --> 00:18:07,230 Bomb lab says it was a simple device. 423 00:18:07,286 --> 00:18:09,823 Something even the dumbest hired gun could cook up. 424 00:18:09,956 --> 00:18:11,196 (PHONE RINGING) 425 00:18:11,757 --> 00:18:13,100 Van Buren. 426 00:18:14,794 --> 00:18:17,138 All right. All right. We'll follow it down. 427 00:18:17,363 --> 00:18:18,364 Thanks. 428 00:18:19,498 --> 00:18:22,138 The Feds found a print on the gift box. 429 00:18:22,602 --> 00:18:24,946 It's a match to Maggie Callister. 430 00:18:25,872 --> 00:18:27,545 (KNOCKING) Maggie. 431 00:18:27,807 --> 00:18:29,912 Trust me. Do what they say. 432 00:18:29,976 --> 00:18:32,616 Hold up your head up. You can handle this. 433 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,957 BRISCOE: Margaret Callister, you're under arrest 434 00:18:36,015 --> 00:18:38,621 for the murder of your husband, Joseph, and five other people. 435 00:18:38,684 --> 00:18:39,685 I didn't do it. 436 00:18:39,752 --> 00:18:40,822 You left your prints on the bomb. 437 00:18:40,886 --> 00:18:42,456 You will be fine. 438 00:18:43,222 --> 00:18:46,203 ED: You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can... 439 00:18:49,495 --> 00:18:51,372 Six counts murder one. 440 00:18:52,031 --> 00:18:54,272 My client's an ad exec, McCoy, not the Una-bomber. 441 00:18:54,333 --> 00:18:56,438 She wouldn't know a stick of dynamite from a set of spark plugs. 442 00:18:56,502 --> 00:18:58,448 I'm sure she found someone who did. 443 00:18:58,638 --> 00:19:01,118 I'll only accept a plea for the entire indictment. 444 00:19:01,207 --> 00:19:02,743 What's my client's impetus? 445 00:19:02,808 --> 00:19:04,253 A second bowl of Jell-O at Bedford? 446 00:19:04,777 --> 00:19:07,951 This goes to trial, no jury gives her less than a death penalty. 447 00:19:08,014 --> 00:19:09,084 Based on what? 448 00:19:09,148 --> 00:19:11,355 A box she may have bought that may have contained a bomb? 449 00:19:11,417 --> 00:19:13,090 We have her fingerprints on that box. 450 00:19:13,152 --> 00:19:15,689 A, one partial print. 451 00:19:15,955 --> 00:19:19,528 And B, touching a box isn't yet a crime in New York State. 452 00:19:20,426 --> 00:19:22,099 Motion to dismiss. 453 00:19:23,896 --> 00:19:27,002 One SOB to another, it's going to be a pleasure. 454 00:19:34,941 --> 00:19:38,354 "Evidence insufficient, flawed indictment." It goes on and on. 455 00:19:38,611 --> 00:19:41,649 It's moot if we conclusively connect her to the bomb, 456 00:19:41,714 --> 00:19:43,489 find her bomb maker. 457 00:19:45,017 --> 00:19:48,123 Check out who she knows, where she's been spending her money. 458 00:19:50,723 --> 00:19:54,500 IRA, money market account, CDs. Money in, money out. 459 00:19:54,727 --> 00:19:56,502 I'm only interested in the out. 460 00:19:56,829 --> 00:20:00,936 Any canceled checks, wire transfers, large cash withdrawals? 461 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,540 She's liquidated a number of assets over the past few months. 462 00:20:05,137 --> 00:20:08,141 Closed a brokerage account, several cash accounts. 463 00:20:08,341 --> 00:20:09,615 And where'd the money go? 464 00:20:10,142 --> 00:20:12,884 She took the money in the form of several cashier's checks. 465 00:20:12,945 --> 00:20:14,754 How many and how big? 466 00:20:15,181 --> 00:20:17,525 200,000 over five months. 467 00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:20,458 Endorsed over to the KVG Corporation. 468 00:20:20,519 --> 00:20:21,623 What is that? 469 00:20:21,887 --> 00:20:24,891 She said she and her partner were starting up a new business. 470 00:20:28,361 --> 00:20:30,466 GARRET: I've never heard of the KVG Corporation. 471 00:20:30,529 --> 00:20:32,600 And I would've remembered $200,000. 472 00:20:33,065 --> 00:20:35,272 Could she have been pursuing something on her own? 473 00:20:35,334 --> 00:20:36,779 I wouldn't know. 474 00:20:36,902 --> 00:20:38,074 You're partners, aren't you? 475 00:20:38,437 --> 00:20:39,916 Used to be friends, too. 476 00:20:40,473 --> 00:20:43,579 I knew Joe's brother, Pat, at Stanford. That's how I met Maggie. 477 00:20:43,876 --> 00:20:44,946 But six months ago, 478 00:20:45,010 --> 00:20:47,456 no more weekends at the beach house, no more dinners. 479 00:20:47,813 --> 00:20:50,760 Haven't had so much as a latte with Maggie or Joe in months. 480 00:20:50,850 --> 00:20:52,557 Like I fell off their radar. 481 00:20:52,618 --> 00:20:54,029 Did you ask why? 482 00:20:54,086 --> 00:20:56,464 Couldn't pin her down long enough to put the question to her. 483 00:20:56,522 --> 00:20:57,796 And I wasn't the only one. 484 00:20:57,857 --> 00:21:00,394 Pat called here last week looking for his brother. 485 00:21:00,459 --> 00:21:03,303 For God sakes, I had to be the one to tell him about Joe. 486 00:21:04,830 --> 00:21:06,036 If I hadn't called Maggie's partner, 487 00:21:06,098 --> 00:21:07,702 I would've missed Joe's funeral. 488 00:21:08,534 --> 00:21:09,706 I can't believe Maggie. 489 00:21:10,069 --> 00:21:11,446 You didn't know they were having problems? 490 00:21:11,504 --> 00:21:14,178 No. But I hadn't heard from Joe in months. 491 00:21:14,607 --> 00:21:16,985 And I called, I left messages, but never heard back. 492 00:21:17,042 --> 00:21:18,953 It's like he cut himself off from everybody. 493 00:21:19,011 --> 00:21:20,183 I went to the funeral 494 00:21:20,246 --> 00:21:21,816 and there was hardly anybody there I recognized. 495 00:21:21,914 --> 00:21:22,984 Who was there? 496 00:21:23,049 --> 00:21:26,121 Uh, this couple, the Graces, Elias and the wife, Valerie. 497 00:21:26,185 --> 00:21:27,289 They seemed to be running the show. 498 00:21:27,353 --> 00:21:28,696 And there were all these other people there. 499 00:21:28,754 --> 00:21:30,290 There was no one there you knew? 500 00:21:30,356 --> 00:21:33,098 Yeah. Just one of Joe's buddies from Wharton, Al Goren. 501 00:21:33,159 --> 00:21:34,763 I asked him who all these people were 502 00:21:34,827 --> 00:21:36,238 and he told me that they were some friends 503 00:21:36,295 --> 00:21:39,367 that Joe and Maggie had met at some seminars that the Graces had given. 504 00:21:39,665 --> 00:21:40,803 What kind of seminars? 505 00:21:40,866 --> 00:21:43,039 It sounded like a business seminar. 506 00:21:43,202 --> 00:21:47,344 Empowering success, envisioning, whatever. 507 00:21:47,406 --> 00:21:48,817 I tuned out. 508 00:21:49,008 --> 00:21:50,419 Do you have Mr. Goren's number? 509 00:21:51,544 --> 00:21:52,614 Yeah. 510 00:21:53,946 --> 00:21:56,586 Bid 42,000 Texas Sweet at 20. 511 00:21:58,150 --> 00:22:01,324 Overcome their inertia with your vigor, they'll play at 20. 512 00:22:01,387 --> 00:22:02,627 Mr. Goren, you mind? 513 00:22:05,191 --> 00:22:07,034 My apologies. 514 00:22:07,126 --> 00:22:08,434 Joe Callister. 515 00:22:08,494 --> 00:22:10,167 A terrible loss. Joe was a fine man. 516 00:22:10,663 --> 00:22:12,233 Apparently his wife didn't agree. 517 00:22:12,565 --> 00:22:13,600 That's absurd. 518 00:22:14,366 --> 00:22:16,175 Joe and Maggie were way past petty jealousies. 519 00:22:16,235 --> 00:22:18,181 We had much more important work to do. 520 00:22:18,637 --> 00:22:19,945 What kind of work? 521 00:22:21,373 --> 00:22:22,374 Running the world. 522 00:22:22,441 --> 00:22:23,647 You're joking. 523 00:22:23,709 --> 00:22:25,484 Aim high. Why settle for less? 524 00:22:25,544 --> 00:22:27,990 And you got this from what, the Graces' seminar? 525 00:22:28,581 --> 00:22:31,221 With the right guidance, you can get anything. 526 00:22:31,283 --> 00:22:32,694 Meaning what, money? 527 00:22:33,652 --> 00:22:35,859 Um, that's just the outward trappings. 528 00:22:35,921 --> 00:22:37,798 Success, beyond any measure. 529 00:22:37,857 --> 00:22:39,632 That's what it's about, really. 530 00:22:39,892 --> 00:22:42,338 And power, real power. 531 00:22:43,195 --> 00:22:46,335 And what's the right guidance? Elias and Valerie Grace? 532 00:22:46,765 --> 00:22:49,541 The guy's magnetic. And he's right. 533 00:22:50,803 --> 00:22:51,941 That's why he's on the speed dial 534 00:22:52,004 --> 00:22:54,177 of a dozen CEOs of the Fortune 500. 535 00:22:54,306 --> 00:22:55,614 You know this for a fact? 536 00:22:56,175 --> 00:22:58,314 You listen to him, you're atop performer. 537 00:22:58,844 --> 00:23:00,050 I'm here. 538 00:23:00,513 --> 00:23:01,992 Give me a call if you're interested. 539 00:23:05,618 --> 00:23:08,224 What is this, some kind of crazy cult? 540 00:23:08,654 --> 00:23:10,463 More like a self-actualization group. 541 00:23:10,523 --> 00:23:11,627 Self what? 542 00:23:11,690 --> 00:23:15,103 Self delusion, more like. "Running the world." 543 00:23:15,227 --> 00:23:19,369 I can't get a handle on it, but Elias Grace hardly seems like a role model. 544 00:23:19,732 --> 00:23:23,202 Six years ago, he was convicted of assault and battery in Pennsylvania. 545 00:23:23,269 --> 00:23:25,215 Some guy refused to embrace success? 546 00:23:25,271 --> 00:23:27,717 No. Someone refused to get out of the car, his wife. 547 00:23:27,773 --> 00:23:29,480 He beat his wife? Charming. 548 00:23:29,542 --> 00:23:31,818 What does this have to do with the Callisters? 549 00:23:31,877 --> 00:23:35,620 Maybe a lot. The Callisters, separately and jointly, 550 00:23:35,681 --> 00:23:38,992 liquidated assets worth over one million dollars in the past six months. 551 00:23:39,051 --> 00:23:40,655 That's one-fifth of their net worth. 552 00:23:40,719 --> 00:23:41,823 Where's the money? 553 00:23:41,887 --> 00:23:43,833 It went to the KVG Corporation. 554 00:23:43,889 --> 00:23:47,894 According to state records, it's a non-profit operated by Elias and Valerie Grace, 555 00:23:48,193 --> 00:23:50,571 who seem to be living high off a whole herd of hogs. 556 00:23:50,629 --> 00:23:52,939 Well, a million dollar's worth killing over. 557 00:23:53,399 --> 00:23:54,707 Ask the Graces if they agree. 558 00:23:54,767 --> 00:23:55,837 I tried. 559 00:23:55,901 --> 00:23:57,209 Five calls. No returns. 560 00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:59,044 Then embrace them with a subpoena. 561 00:24:02,975 --> 00:24:05,285 The subpoena was entirely unnecessary. 562 00:24:05,344 --> 00:24:06,982 We knocked, nobody answered. 563 00:24:07,046 --> 00:24:08,525 Ever lose anyone close to you? 564 00:24:08,581 --> 00:24:09,616 Mr. Grace... 565 00:24:09,682 --> 00:24:11,525 Hard, right? Please. 566 00:24:12,851 --> 00:24:14,922 We went to our Rockland County retreat. 567 00:24:14,987 --> 00:24:16,364 Turned off the phones, 568 00:24:16,422 --> 00:24:19,266 tried to understand how bad things happen to great people. 569 00:24:19,592 --> 00:24:21,299 Looks like things started to go bad 570 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:23,169 for the Callisters long before this. 571 00:24:23,229 --> 00:24:24,606 Their lifestyles changed... 572 00:24:24,663 --> 00:24:27,200 For the better. They were rudderless before. 573 00:24:27,633 --> 00:24:28,941 JACK: Before they met you? 574 00:24:29,001 --> 00:24:30,412 Before they were in touch with themselves. 575 00:24:31,437 --> 00:24:32,541 Thanks to you? 576 00:24:32,605 --> 00:24:35,609 I helped them understand that nobody could take away the success 577 00:24:35,674 --> 00:24:36,846 they were entitled to. 578 00:24:37,209 --> 00:24:38,745 Success comes from in here. 579 00:24:39,645 --> 00:24:43,855 So, maybe you can explain how a million dollars of the Callisters' money 580 00:24:43,916 --> 00:24:45,953 found its way into the KVG Corporation. 581 00:24:46,185 --> 00:24:47,220 (SIGHS) 582 00:24:47,286 --> 00:24:49,766 People only value the things they pay for. 583 00:24:49,822 --> 00:24:52,234 Our friends value learning to feel good about themselves. 584 00:24:52,324 --> 00:24:54,167 Learning that is worth a million dollars? 585 00:24:54,226 --> 00:24:55,569 We make it stick. 586 00:24:56,262 --> 00:25:00,369 You know the old story about giving a man a fish versus teaching him to fish? 587 00:25:00,432 --> 00:25:01,672 We teach our friends to fish. 588 00:25:01,734 --> 00:25:05,511 Last year, three of our friends had IPO's in the hundred million range. 589 00:25:05,571 --> 00:25:06,982 It works, Miss Carmichael. 590 00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:09,576 And does this happen with all the members of your group? 591 00:25:09,942 --> 00:25:10,943 ELIAS: Group? 592 00:25:11,009 --> 00:25:12,545 JACK: You do have a group, don't you? 593 00:25:13,646 --> 00:25:15,125 A wide circle of friends. 594 00:25:15,614 --> 00:25:16,615 Followers. 595 00:25:16,682 --> 00:25:19,219 If a friend sees a movie on your recommendation, 596 00:25:19,285 --> 00:25:21,492 is he a follower or just interested in your opinion? 597 00:25:22,154 --> 00:25:23,963 And how is your opinion delivered? 598 00:25:24,723 --> 00:25:28,398 We have meetings, retreats, seminars. We're people. 599 00:25:28,460 --> 00:25:30,531 We share our ideas with friends. 600 00:25:30,996 --> 00:25:32,998 And in return, they make you rich. 601 00:25:33,065 --> 00:25:37,309 Our friends are grateful, yes, but we aren't a business. Check our records. 602 00:25:37,469 --> 00:25:39,073 We intend to. 603 00:25:40,272 --> 00:25:41,842 I could contest any subpoena. 604 00:25:42,408 --> 00:25:43,944 But why would we? 605 00:25:44,009 --> 00:25:46,751 Maybe you'd like to see a pamphlet on our courses? 606 00:25:47,046 --> 00:25:50,994 An ambitious guy like you might want to consider looking at things a new way. 607 00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:55,897 First look, it seems totally innocent. 608 00:25:55,955 --> 00:25:59,630 People taking courses, attending seminars, making contributions. 609 00:26:00,025 --> 00:26:01,470 All of them paying for the privilege. 610 00:26:01,527 --> 00:26:04,337 Another fine example of free enterprise. 611 00:26:04,797 --> 00:26:06,208 The Grace records show 20 people 612 00:26:06,265 --> 00:26:10,042 who consistently show up at retreats and seminars, and give money. 613 00:26:10,102 --> 00:26:11,672 There are others, less consistent. 614 00:26:11,937 --> 00:26:13,678 Maybe not true believers yet. 615 00:26:14,707 --> 00:26:18,678 Maggie Callister gave the Graces 20% of her monthly income. 616 00:26:18,744 --> 00:26:21,520 Same as all the others, including the IPO millionaires. 617 00:26:21,847 --> 00:26:23,121 Adds up. 618 00:26:24,616 --> 00:26:27,859 What'd Joe Callister pay for his self-actualization? 619 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:30,600 In dollar figures, a little more than his widow. 620 00:26:30,656 --> 00:26:33,136 But he was earning over four times as much as she was. 621 00:26:33,459 --> 00:26:34,938 Mmm-hmm. 622 00:26:35,694 --> 00:26:37,901 Was he holding out on the Graces? 623 00:26:39,164 --> 00:26:40,165 (EXHALES) 624 00:26:40,499 --> 00:26:43,446 Got a Harley Ellison, guy from Scranton. 625 00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:47,349 He's getting 20,000 a month from the Graces. 626 00:26:53,445 --> 00:26:55,186 I consult for the Graces. 627 00:26:55,247 --> 00:26:56,419 You write their pamphlets? 628 00:26:56,482 --> 00:26:57,483 No. 629 00:26:58,384 --> 00:27:00,261 You already have two convictions for check-kiting. 630 00:27:01,019 --> 00:27:02,396 From eight years ago. 631 00:27:02,454 --> 00:27:04,400 One more strike and you're out. 632 00:27:07,259 --> 00:27:11,537 I met Elias doing a summer job at a quarry. 633 00:27:12,097 --> 00:27:15,203 His name was Karl Gratz. We were college students. 634 00:27:15,634 --> 00:27:18,513 And the 20,000 a month, that's for old times' sake? 635 00:27:18,570 --> 00:27:20,106 It's a royalty. 636 00:27:20,639 --> 00:27:23,085 We didn't plan on spending the rest of our lives here. 637 00:27:23,142 --> 00:27:24,587 We had active imaginations. 638 00:27:24,643 --> 00:27:27,021 One night, Elias, Valerie and I got together 639 00:27:27,079 --> 00:27:28,683 and played at creating our own religion. 640 00:27:28,914 --> 00:27:30,188 And how did the game end? 641 00:27:30,883 --> 00:27:33,454 By dawn we'd come up with eight rules. 642 00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:36,363 I came up with the first rule, "Love yourself." 643 00:27:37,189 --> 00:27:38,600 I lose touch with Elias. 644 00:27:38,657 --> 00:27:41,695 Five years ago, I see him on the cover of a magazine, 645 00:27:41,793 --> 00:27:46,003 an article about him and "Mastery For Success," he called it. 646 00:27:46,064 --> 00:27:47,907 All the rules we'd dreamed up. 647 00:27:48,167 --> 00:27:51,307 So you put a call on Elias to see if there's something in it for you. 648 00:27:51,370 --> 00:27:53,281 He's raking it in, hand over fist. 649 00:27:53,338 --> 00:27:54,612 With "love yourself"? 650 00:27:54,873 --> 00:27:56,375 Know your audience. 651 00:27:56,441 --> 00:27:58,216 The people who go to his seminars, 652 00:27:58,277 --> 00:28:01,690 dot-com millionaires who 10 years ago, they didn't have a dime. 653 00:28:01,747 --> 00:28:04,125 Now they have millions and they feel guilty. 654 00:28:04,183 --> 00:28:06,185 They're filled with self-loathing and insecurity. 655 00:28:06,251 --> 00:28:08,857 So, yeah, "love yourself" goes a long way. 656 00:28:08,921 --> 00:28:11,993 But giving away one-fifth of their total net worth? 657 00:28:12,057 --> 00:28:14,901 Rule number four, "Only the chosen can join" 658 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,871 Elias made it an exclusive club. 659 00:28:16,929 --> 00:28:20,706 If you didn't have seven figures in your bank account, keep walking. 660 00:28:21,333 --> 00:28:24,109 And what do the Graces get for their pay-off to you? Your silence? 661 00:28:24,169 --> 00:28:25,876 And my absence. 662 00:28:25,938 --> 00:28:27,679 I didn't like the place anyway. 663 00:28:28,006 --> 00:28:29,679 Guns make me nervous. 664 00:28:30,542 --> 00:28:31,646 Guns? 665 00:28:32,945 --> 00:28:35,152 At the Rockland County place. 666 00:28:36,048 --> 00:28:38,619 That's it for guns? Two $15,000 Parkers? 667 00:28:38,684 --> 00:28:39,992 They shoot skeet. 668 00:28:40,252 --> 00:28:42,129 What do you keep in the shed? 669 00:28:42,187 --> 00:28:43,359 Tools. 670 00:28:43,622 --> 00:28:44,862 Show us. 671 00:28:50,329 --> 00:28:51,569 (DOOR CREAKS) 672 00:28:59,238 --> 00:29:00,945 What's the dynamite for? 673 00:29:01,006 --> 00:29:02,747 We got beaver dams. 674 00:29:03,408 --> 00:29:04,580 Pretty big beavers. 675 00:29:04,643 --> 00:29:07,556 Eight half-sticks. You got enough to take you into the next decade. 676 00:29:07,613 --> 00:29:12,790 Eight? Ought to be 10. I bought a dozen half-sticks, used two. 677 00:29:12,951 --> 00:29:15,124 Anybody else have a key to this shed? 678 00:29:15,187 --> 00:29:17,098 Just Mr. Grace. 679 00:29:21,426 --> 00:29:26,136 "Docket 34305, People v. Elias and Valerie Grace." 680 00:29:26,198 --> 00:29:29,270 "Murder in the first degree, six counts each." 681 00:29:29,334 --> 00:29:30,745 How do the defendants plead? 682 00:29:30,802 --> 00:29:31,974 Not guilty, Your Honor. 683 00:29:32,037 --> 00:29:33,744 With my husband, not guilty. 684 00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:36,820 Domestic accord, how touching. People on bail? 685 00:29:36,875 --> 00:29:37,876 Remand, Your Honor. 686 00:29:37,943 --> 00:29:40,753 The Graces killed six people in collusion with Margaret Callister 687 00:29:40,813 --> 00:29:43,259 in an effort to keep one of them from leaving their cult. 688 00:29:43,315 --> 00:29:44,316 Cult? 689 00:29:44,917 --> 00:29:48,990 There is no cult, Your Honor, and no evidence linking my clients to the bomb. 690 00:29:49,054 --> 00:29:50,897 Our lab made a chemical match of the bomb 691 00:29:50,956 --> 00:29:53,129 with the explosives seized at the defendants' estate. 692 00:29:53,192 --> 00:29:56,036 Any one of a number of people had access to that dynamite. 693 00:29:56,094 --> 00:29:58,597 Elias Grace worked with explosives at a quarry 694 00:29:58,664 --> 00:30:00,940 and has a history of threatening and violent behavior. 695 00:30:00,999 --> 00:30:03,980 A domestic incident six years ago? 696 00:30:04,036 --> 00:30:06,539 Judge Mannheim, that hardly merits consideration. 697 00:30:06,605 --> 00:30:08,243 I think my wife would disagree. 698 00:30:08,340 --> 00:30:09,842 And as to motive, Your Honor, 699 00:30:09,908 --> 00:30:12,115 the notion that my clients would harm Callister 700 00:30:12,177 --> 00:30:14,157 over a relatively insignificant sum... 701 00:30:14,213 --> 00:30:17,126 Approximately one million dollars at last count, Your Honor. 702 00:30:17,182 --> 00:30:20,561 My clients have access to over 50 million dollars. 703 00:30:21,286 --> 00:30:24,233 Then 10 million each shouldn't be a problem. 704 00:30:25,023 --> 00:30:28,903 CLERK: "Docket number 27354, People" 705 00:30:29,127 --> 00:30:31,733 CARMICHAEL: Your husband was withholding money from the group. 706 00:30:31,797 --> 00:30:33,606 He was planning to leave. 707 00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:36,973 Did they tell you that's why they wanted him dead? 708 00:30:37,436 --> 00:30:39,473 If you want to save your life, Mrs. Callister, 709 00:30:39,538 --> 00:30:41,211 you'll cooperate. 710 00:30:41,273 --> 00:30:42,946 RICKS: She didn't do it. 711 00:30:43,008 --> 00:30:46,717 CARMICHAEL: They gave you the bomb to give to your husband, didn't they? 712 00:30:50,248 --> 00:30:51,921 I won't turn against them. 713 00:30:52,250 --> 00:30:56,721 Elias and Valerie... They're multiple murderers. 714 00:30:57,022 --> 00:30:59,366 You don't know what you're talking about. 715 00:30:59,424 --> 00:31:01,631 They're con artists, Mrs. Callister. 716 00:31:01,693 --> 00:31:05,004 They used you and your husband to get your money! 717 00:31:05,063 --> 00:31:07,543 No, that is not what they did! 718 00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:10,546 They taught me how to maximize my success. 719 00:31:10,602 --> 00:31:13,549 They taught me how to negotiate for power. 720 00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:15,750 We're giving you a chance, Mrs. Callister. 721 00:31:16,174 --> 00:31:20,213 If you don't take it, you'll be destroyed along with the Graces. 722 00:31:22,981 --> 00:31:26,929 Elias and Valerie are the greatest people on earth. 723 00:31:26,985 --> 00:31:29,556 You're Neanderthals compared to them. 724 00:31:32,891 --> 00:31:35,201 How does an intelligent woman like Maggie Callister, 725 00:31:35,260 --> 00:31:37,672 get drawn in by these megalomaniacs? 726 00:31:37,729 --> 00:31:39,868 Are we sure the Graces are behind it? 727 00:31:39,931 --> 00:31:41,706 They had the means, the motive, 728 00:31:41,767 --> 00:31:44,008 and Elias had the wherewithal to make a bomb. 729 00:31:44,069 --> 00:31:46,845 You have to put that bomb in the Graces' hands. 730 00:31:46,905 --> 00:31:49,545 JACK: Somebody in that group must know something. 731 00:31:49,608 --> 00:31:51,849 Yeah, but if they're anything like Maggie Callister... 732 00:31:51,910 --> 00:31:53,856 At the arraignment, the Graces' attorney said 733 00:31:53,912 --> 00:31:56,324 anyone could've had access to the dynamite. 734 00:31:56,381 --> 00:31:57,416 Well, the groundskeeper said 735 00:31:57,482 --> 00:31:59,860 he and Elias were the only ones with the key to the shed. 736 00:31:59,918 --> 00:32:01,329 He could be wrong. 737 00:32:01,953 --> 00:32:03,864 Let's take them at their word. 738 00:32:03,922 --> 00:32:05,765 Impute the motive to the group as a whole. 739 00:32:06,625 --> 00:32:08,502 Arrest them all? Jack... 740 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,562 For conspiracy to commit murder. 741 00:32:11,296 --> 00:32:14,106 And Abbie, this time, get remand. 742 00:32:20,739 --> 00:32:21,979 Conspiracy? 743 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,179 No way you prove an overt act, McCoy. 744 00:32:24,242 --> 00:32:25,915 My client had nothing to do with it. 745 00:32:25,977 --> 00:32:27,684 If he didn't, he knows who did. 746 00:32:27,746 --> 00:32:30,283 You people are so off base about Elias and Valerie. 747 00:32:30,349 --> 00:32:31,885 You're scared of them. That's why you're hounding them. 748 00:32:32,117 --> 00:32:35,462 We're hounding them because they killed six people, including 749 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,590 a five-year-old child. 750 00:32:36,655 --> 00:32:39,033 Am I an idiot? Do you think that I would associate myself 751 00:32:39,091 --> 00:32:40,365 with anybody who'd do that? 752 00:32:40,425 --> 00:32:43,406 All that I have achieved, I owe to Elias and Valerie. 753 00:32:43,495 --> 00:32:46,567 I hope you are prepared to give them your all, Mr. Goren. 754 00:32:46,631 --> 00:32:47,974 You'll be here a long time. 755 00:32:48,033 --> 00:32:49,376 (GATE OPENING) 756 00:32:53,805 --> 00:32:55,682 I don't know anything. 757 00:32:57,275 --> 00:32:59,551 My husband brought me to the Graces. 758 00:33:00,245 --> 00:33:02,623 I thought it was an investment group at first. 759 00:33:02,681 --> 00:33:03,682 And then? 760 00:33:03,749 --> 00:33:05,194 Alice, don't trust these people. 761 00:33:05,250 --> 00:33:06,752 Help yourself and your husband. 762 00:33:06,818 --> 00:33:08,229 If the Graces didn't do anything wrong, 763 00:33:08,286 --> 00:33:09,560 they don't have anything to hide. 764 00:33:12,424 --> 00:33:15,871 My husband said if we signed over 20% of our assets, 765 00:33:15,927 --> 00:33:18,066 they'd be returned a hundred times over. 766 00:33:18,263 --> 00:33:19,469 Were they? 767 00:33:20,065 --> 00:33:24,104 My husband made a lot of money under Elias' guidance, 768 00:33:24,169 --> 00:33:28,777 but it felt like I was losing him. 769 00:33:29,608 --> 00:33:31,952 And Elias never said anything about Joe Callister? 770 00:33:38,350 --> 00:33:40,694 Was Elias angry at Joe about the missing money? 771 00:33:41,353 --> 00:33:42,661 It's nothing like that. 772 00:33:45,924 --> 00:33:48,336 I heard Joe was having an affair. 773 00:33:48,927 --> 00:33:49,928 With whom? 774 00:33:50,629 --> 00:33:52,131 I don't know. 775 00:33:52,197 --> 00:33:53,505 Maggie told me he was on his way 776 00:33:53,565 --> 00:33:55,772 to see his mistress when he was killed. 777 00:34:00,372 --> 00:34:02,374 We're back to a crime of passion? 778 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,783 Takes the Graces off the hook. 779 00:34:03,842 --> 00:34:05,185 It's just a rumor. 780 00:34:05,410 --> 00:34:07,651 Have the police chase it down. 781 00:34:08,446 --> 00:34:11,188 Joe Callister was booked on a flight to Indianapolis. 782 00:34:14,019 --> 00:34:16,021 No sign of any affair in New York. 783 00:34:16,087 --> 00:34:18,363 If Callister was cheating on his wife, he was a real pro. 784 00:34:18,423 --> 00:34:20,164 Hmm. If you took a page from this guy's book, Lennie, 785 00:34:20,225 --> 00:34:21,260 you'd still be married. 786 00:34:21,326 --> 00:34:22,669 Bite your tongue. 787 00:34:22,727 --> 00:34:25,571 He's been to Indianapolis once in two years. 788 00:34:25,630 --> 00:34:27,541 So, he wasn't getting it at that end, either. 789 00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:30,910 Guy was booked on United's 10:00 a.m. to Indianapolis. 790 00:34:31,403 --> 00:34:32,746 Hmm, it's a business trip, so? 791 00:34:33,038 --> 00:34:34,540 American's got a Joseph A. Callister 792 00:34:34,606 --> 00:34:36,017 booked on their 5:00 p.m. to Indianapolis. 793 00:34:36,074 --> 00:34:37,553 Same guy, same day. 794 00:34:37,642 --> 00:34:40,919 A seven-hour layover, figuratively speaking, of course. 795 00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:42,149 Check the airport hotels, 796 00:34:42,214 --> 00:34:44,319 see if Joseph A. Callister had a reservation that day. 797 00:34:49,654 --> 00:34:51,725 Callister, Mr. Joseph A. 798 00:34:51,790 --> 00:34:54,202 Room reserved the day before, never checked in. 799 00:34:54,259 --> 00:34:55,863 BRISCOE: Did he call to cancel? 800 00:34:55,927 --> 00:34:57,907 Records only have him as a no-show. 801 00:34:57,963 --> 00:34:59,601 We held the room until 4:00 p.m., 802 00:34:59,664 --> 00:35:00,665 then voided the transaction. 803 00:35:01,133 --> 00:35:02,407 Did anybody show up looking for him? 804 00:35:03,602 --> 00:35:04,706 BRISCOE: Maybe a woman? 805 00:35:05,003 --> 00:35:07,244 Oh, yeah. She came to the desk. 806 00:35:07,305 --> 00:35:09,046 She said if he came in, to tell him 807 00:35:09,107 --> 00:35:10,745 she was waiting for him in the restaurant. 808 00:35:10,809 --> 00:35:11,844 ED: Describe her. 809 00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:14,288 Pretty. Brown hair. Petite. 810 00:35:15,046 --> 00:35:16,116 You wouldn't still have the tape 811 00:35:16,181 --> 00:35:17,353 from the security camera, would you? 812 00:35:17,415 --> 00:35:19,258 We don't. But the FBI does. 813 00:35:21,152 --> 00:35:22,961 Bureau scooped security tapes 814 00:35:23,021 --> 00:35:25,968 from airport hotels from before and after the chopper went down 815 00:35:26,024 --> 00:35:27,264 as part of their investigation. 816 00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:29,066 Score one for the good guys. 817 00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:34,235 JACK: Valerie Grace. 818 00:35:34,299 --> 00:35:37,508 Joe Callister and mother superior, one big happy. 819 00:35:37,969 --> 00:35:39,573 She was Callister's lover? 820 00:35:39,938 --> 00:35:42,009 Gives Elias Grace motive in spades. 821 00:35:42,073 --> 00:35:44,212 Yeah, but that still doesn't put the bomb in his mitts. 822 00:35:44,276 --> 00:35:45,687 Talk to his wife. 823 00:35:46,211 --> 00:35:48,418 She might like to nail the man who killed her lover. 824 00:35:48,813 --> 00:35:51,123 Well, so far, she's standing by that man. 825 00:35:51,216 --> 00:35:52,593 They're into self-realization, 826 00:35:52,651 --> 00:35:54,688 let's see how they self-realize this tape. 827 00:35:54,753 --> 00:35:55,754 Call their lawyer. 828 00:35:56,321 --> 00:35:57,800 Neanderthals. 829 00:36:00,525 --> 00:36:01,868 Please, sit down. 830 00:36:01,927 --> 00:36:04,203 We'll take your apologies standing up. 831 00:36:04,262 --> 00:36:06,674 (SIGHS) We know about your affair with Joe Callister. 832 00:36:06,731 --> 00:36:07,971 What are you talking about? 833 00:36:08,533 --> 00:36:11,946 This was taken by a security camera at a hotel near 834 00:36:12,003 --> 00:36:14,506 the airport the day Joe Callister was killed. 835 00:36:14,573 --> 00:36:17,144 That's you, Mrs. Grace, 836 00:36:17,208 --> 00:36:20,815 there to meet Joe Callister, who had reserved a room. 837 00:36:20,879 --> 00:36:23,325 Only, thanks to your husband, Joe never showed up. 838 00:36:23,715 --> 00:36:25,626 I don't know what that tape purports to show, 839 00:36:25,684 --> 00:36:27,322 but my wife was not having an affair. 840 00:36:29,087 --> 00:36:30,464 Sweetheart. 841 00:36:31,656 --> 00:36:34,068 We're willing to consider a deal, Mrs. Grace. 842 00:36:43,868 --> 00:36:46,439 Elias knew about Joe. 843 00:36:46,504 --> 00:36:49,246 Valerie, I strongly urge you to keep your mouth shut. 844 00:36:49,307 --> 00:36:50,308 (SCOFFS) This is absurd. 845 00:36:50,375 --> 00:36:51,877 It was a week before Joe died. 846 00:36:52,110 --> 00:36:54,488 Elias came in the room, I was knitting, 847 00:36:54,546 --> 00:36:56,355 I... I do that when I'm bored. 848 00:36:56,414 --> 00:36:58,223 Valerie, focus. Think what you're doing. 849 00:36:58,283 --> 00:37:00,126 He said he knew about Joe and me, 850 00:37:00,418 --> 00:37:01,954 heard me on the phone with Joe. 851 00:37:02,020 --> 00:37:03,966 All right, now I'm telling you, be quiet! 852 00:37:04,022 --> 00:37:07,367 I just kept knitting, and then he said he forgave me. 853 00:37:07,892 --> 00:37:09,701 He said 854 00:37:09,761 --> 00:37:11,798 I was only human, people make mistakes. 855 00:37:11,863 --> 00:37:16,005 And I believed him, and he believed me. 856 00:37:16,735 --> 00:37:18,715 (SIGHS) I'd like a word with my wife. 857 00:37:19,037 --> 00:37:20,277 Her turn now, Mr. Grace. 858 00:37:20,338 --> 00:37:21,715 If I could just speak to her... 859 00:37:21,773 --> 00:37:23,081 You've spoken quite enough. 860 00:37:23,141 --> 00:37:24,211 My attorney, then... 861 00:37:24,276 --> 00:37:26,153 Time to listen! 862 00:37:26,945 --> 00:37:28,515 Please continue, Mrs. Grace. 863 00:37:34,419 --> 00:37:36,023 I kept knitting. 864 00:37:39,257 --> 00:37:43,797 And I lied to him and I told him Joe and I were finished. 865 00:37:44,262 --> 00:37:46,299 I lied even when he forgave me. 866 00:37:47,098 --> 00:37:49,135 I lied 867 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,009 and I never dropped a stitch. 868 00:37:51,369 --> 00:37:53,212 You knew your husband killed him? 869 00:37:53,705 --> 00:37:54,843 No. 870 00:37:54,906 --> 00:37:59,616 Not until Mr. Heckstrom told me the dynamite came from the shed. 871 00:38:00,045 --> 00:38:02,286 CARMICHAEL: Why didn't you come forward then? 872 00:38:02,747 --> 00:38:04,488 I know what he's capable of. 873 00:38:04,549 --> 00:38:05,687 I was terrified. 874 00:38:05,784 --> 00:38:08,424 Who are you? I made you what you are! 875 00:38:08,486 --> 00:38:10,227 And then you lied! 876 00:38:10,422 --> 00:38:11,992 You couldn't stand that I strayed. 877 00:38:12,056 --> 00:38:13,967 And look what you did. 878 00:38:14,125 --> 00:38:17,072 Mr. McCoy, take the death penalty off the table, 879 00:38:17,128 --> 00:38:18,368 we'll work something out. 880 00:38:18,430 --> 00:38:21,411 There are six dead people who can't work something out, Mr. Heckstrom. 881 00:38:21,466 --> 00:38:23,639 You gain nothing by executing Elias Grace. 882 00:38:23,701 --> 00:38:25,476 Please don't kill my husband. 883 00:38:25,537 --> 00:38:28,848 Mrs. Grace, you just admitted you knew your husband's a murderer. 884 00:38:29,007 --> 00:38:30,884 Just let him live. 885 00:38:30,942 --> 00:38:34,116 If it weren't for me, for my weakness. 886 00:38:44,389 --> 00:38:46,528 I found out she was having an affair 887 00:38:46,591 --> 00:38:48,628 when I was on a business trip to Seattle. 888 00:38:49,828 --> 00:38:51,569 I called Valerie at home. 889 00:38:52,297 --> 00:38:53,605 It was late. 890 00:38:54,466 --> 00:38:56,912 No answer. Nobody knew where she was. 891 00:38:59,237 --> 00:39:00,511 (SIGHS) A week later, 892 00:39:00,572 --> 00:39:03,485 I overheard her talking on the phone to someone named Joe. 893 00:39:05,276 --> 00:39:06,778 Her voice was 894 00:39:07,412 --> 00:39:08,482 different. 895 00:39:10,315 --> 00:39:13,694 I confronted her. At first she denied it. 896 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,464 Then she told me the truth, 897 00:39:18,523 --> 00:39:20,366 she was with Joe Callister. 898 00:39:22,660 --> 00:39:24,799 She asked me to forgive her. 899 00:39:27,132 --> 00:39:28,475 A week later, 900 00:39:29,567 --> 00:39:33,208 I found a hotel card key in her purse. 901 00:39:34,139 --> 00:39:36,745 She'd lied to me. She was still seeing him. 902 00:39:38,543 --> 00:39:40,318 I discovered Joe was withholding money, 903 00:39:40,378 --> 00:39:42,051 they were planning something. 904 00:39:43,681 --> 00:39:45,661 I told Maggie Callister. 905 00:39:46,784 --> 00:39:48,525 She was very angry. 906 00:39:51,189 --> 00:39:55,467 I gave her the box to give to Joe... 907 00:40:00,131 --> 00:40:01,576 You know the rest. 908 00:40:03,468 --> 00:40:05,106 People wish to inquire? 909 00:40:05,737 --> 00:40:06,875 No, Your Honor. 910 00:40:07,138 --> 00:40:11,848 Then, Mr. Grace, in accord with your agreement with the district attorney, 911 00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:14,390 you are hereby sentenced to six consecutive terms 912 00:40:14,445 --> 00:40:17,426 of life imprisonment without the possibility of parole, 913 00:40:17,482 --> 00:40:18,756 to be served in a facility 914 00:40:18,816 --> 00:40:20,887 to be determined by the Department of Correction. 915 00:40:21,653 --> 00:40:22,825 (GAVEL STRIKES) 916 00:40:25,056 --> 00:40:27,866 Maggie Callister pleaded out, six life sentences. 917 00:40:28,059 --> 00:40:30,300 Lost her money, lost her husband, lost herself. 918 00:40:30,361 --> 00:40:31,362 (KNOCKING ON DOOR) 919 00:40:33,131 --> 00:40:34,201 We have a problem. 920 00:40:34,432 --> 00:40:35,706 What now? 921 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,980 In his plea allocution, Elias Grace said 922 00:40:38,036 --> 00:40:40,312 he called his wife from Seattle, she wasn't home. 923 00:40:40,438 --> 00:40:42,679 She was with Callister. She admitted it to him. 924 00:40:43,374 --> 00:40:45,445 Valerie Grace never left the city, 925 00:40:45,510 --> 00:40:47,956 and Joe Callister was snowed in in Buffalo that night. 926 00:40:48,213 --> 00:40:49,385 You know this how? 927 00:40:49,447 --> 00:40:51,449 Hotel charges on Callister's credit card. 928 00:40:51,516 --> 00:40:53,928 I even checked with the hotel and the airlines. 929 00:40:57,488 --> 00:40:59,490 It never happened, did it, you and Joe? 930 00:40:59,557 --> 00:41:01,093 You gaslighted your husband. 931 00:41:01,826 --> 00:41:04,170 What did you do? Convince Callister to withhold funds 932 00:41:04,229 --> 00:41:05,970 to make your husband even crazier? 933 00:41:09,567 --> 00:41:12,047 Don't you think we can dig deep within ourselves 934 00:41:12,103 --> 00:41:14,208 and achieve the success for which we're destined 935 00:41:14,272 --> 00:41:16,081 by staying strong. 936 00:41:17,208 --> 00:41:18,744 Being patient? 937 00:41:19,143 --> 00:41:20,622 You were destined to lie? 938 00:41:21,546 --> 00:41:22,889 I was destined for this. 939 00:41:22,947 --> 00:41:24,893 The townhouse, the money, the power. 940 00:41:25,049 --> 00:41:27,495 Well, there's that, but that's not the point, is it? 941 00:41:27,919 --> 00:41:29,125 I don't know what the point is, lady, 942 00:41:29,187 --> 00:41:30,757 but you're making my skin crawl. 943 00:41:31,089 --> 00:41:32,898 You wanted the power. Why? 944 00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:35,160 (EXHALES DEEPLY) 945 00:41:35,627 --> 00:41:37,163 Years ago when Elias hit me, 946 00:41:37,228 --> 00:41:39,640 he did it to let me know I did not have any power. 947 00:41:40,031 --> 00:41:42,033 You could've walked away from him at anytime. 948 00:41:42,433 --> 00:41:44,106 And walked away from this? 949 00:41:46,971 --> 00:41:49,577 I was determined never to be hurt again. 950 00:41:50,141 --> 00:41:51,484 By anyone. 951 00:41:52,677 --> 00:41:55,624 Six people died because of your determination. 952 00:41:57,248 --> 00:41:58,488 (SIGHS) 953 00:42:01,953 --> 00:42:04,263 My husband is a passionate man. 954 00:42:05,390 --> 00:42:07,666 His passions expressed themselves in many ways, 955 00:42:07,725 --> 00:42:09,500 not all of the nice. 956 00:42:10,995 --> 00:42:13,066 He had endless needs. 957 00:42:13,464 --> 00:42:14,807 What did he need? 958 00:42:15,233 --> 00:42:17,372 (SCOFFS) Everything. 959 00:42:17,602 --> 00:42:19,138 There was never enough, 960 00:42:19,204 --> 00:42:24,745 enough power, money, attention, women, enough control. 961 00:42:25,510 --> 00:42:28,013 Why did you speak up in his defense and let him live? 962 00:42:29,581 --> 00:42:34,326 So he would have to sit very quietly 963 00:42:34,385 --> 00:42:38,231 for a very, very long time, 964 00:42:39,390 --> 00:42:41,836 and know that now I had it all. 965 00:42:44,195 --> 00:42:48,166 I wanted him to know that, for him, 966 00:42:48,232 --> 00:42:50,712 there wasn't going to be any more. 967 00:42:58,376 --> 00:43:00,413 There has got to be something we can do. 968 00:43:00,478 --> 00:43:02,321 We can't prove she meant for anyone to die. 969 00:43:02,380 --> 00:43:03,882 We can't touch her. 970 00:43:05,483 --> 00:43:08,225 Elias Grace conned millions of dollars out of these people 971 00:43:08,286 --> 00:43:10,596 and he turned out to be the biggest sucker of them all. 972 00:43:10,646 --> 00:43:15,196 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 75285

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