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Dad.

Hurry up, we're gonna be
late for the game.

Dad.

Dad.

Dad, come on!

I just went in
and he was like that.

Did either of you notice anyone
around the house today?

Anything unusual?

WOMAN:
No.

Who would kill him?

James didn't have
an enemy in the world.

That weird guy from down
the street was here earlier.

WOMAN:
What guy, honey?

GIRL:
Charlie.

Daddy told him to go away,

and he called Daddy a name.

When did this happen?

I don't know, like,
a few hours ago, I guess.

Do you know this guy,
Mrs. Roberts?

Yes, Charlie Forsberg.

He lives with his mother
a few houses down.

Have you had any problems
with him before? No.

He just seems
a little weird is all.

He wanders around
the neighborhood.

He made James nervous.
You said

you knew
which house he lives in?

Rick.

Are you all right?

Is there anyone else
in the house?

MAN:
Hands in the air! Do it now!

There must be some mistake.

Charlie, tell them, please!

No!

STEVE:
Charles Forsberg, ladies and gentlemen, took a claw hammer

to his neighbor's forehead.

Do we know the motive?
Not yet.

Evidently, they did
have words earlier that day,

but it's not clear
what it was about.

PITTS:
Forsberg has no priors.

He has no history
of any trouble of any kind.

He pretty much
kept to himself.

STEVE:
Murder weapon was in his possession

at the time of his arrest,
with the victim's blood on it.

Motive may not be
all that important.

Juries always like to know
the "why" behind the "how."

The police went in
without a warrant?

They didn't need one.

They saw blood on the curb.

They heard someone cry out
inside the structure,

then they went in.

They believed someone
was at risk,

didn't have time for a warrant.

It's a clear exception.

Who did they hear inside?

The suspect's mother.
Does any of this even matter?

I mean, the guy confessed,
right?

As soon as

they got the cuffs on him,

he told the arresting officer
that he killed James Roberts.

STEVE:
Even with the confession

we still need to build a case.

What else do we know
about this guy?

We know that he has an interest
in unsolved crimes.

We searched his bedroom--
articles, you name it,

about two missing persons.

Danielle Minnick,

30-year-old real estate agent,

disappeared six months ago.

Kirsten Sullivan.

She's been missing
for over a year.

14 years old.

I remember that one.

Her parents were all over

the news pleading
for her return.

We were involved in both cases,

but we never had a prime suspect
for either one.

Got one now.

It's not a crime
to be a crime buff.

Any evidence of
mental instability?

Other than smashing
in a guy's head, none.

Unless you count
the fact that he's

32 years old, and he still
lives with his mother.

Ooh.

I can't imagine
living with my mother.

Haven't you heard?

It's the new thing.

Stay at home
as long as possible,

live off your parents,
and save your money.

Can't beat the rent.

Or the cooking.

Oh, Danny,

say it isn't so.

I'm looking for a place.

Hey, law school
was expensive.

What's up?

Charlie Forsberg has confessed

to the murder
of Danielle Minnick,

the missing realtor.

This may be
just the beginning.

We might have a serial killer
on our hands.

He still waiving
his right to counsel?

Somebody up there likes you.

Let's see how much.

Mr. Forsberg, I'm Annabeth
Chase, I'm a deputy prosecutor.

I know you've already
spoken to the police,

but can you tell me again
why you killed Mr. Roberts?

Like I said before,
he made me mad.

Do you kill everyone

who makes you mad?

Don't be stupid.
What made you

so mad you wanted to kill him?

He wasn't nice to me.

That's why you killed him?

I was going for a walk,
his daughter was playing soccer

in front of the house.

The ball rolled
towards the street,

and I kicked it back to her.

Then I stood and watched her
play for a second.

He said, "Keep moving."

Like I wasn't good enough
to stand in front of his house.

Like he was better than me.
Maybe he just

didn't like the way

you were looking
at his little girl.

Hey!

I don't do that.

I'm not interested in kids.

That's sick.

So you left
after he asked you to?

Yeah.

But I kept thinking about it.

About the way he looked at me.

Down at me.

I know that look.

What do you mean
you know that look?

Nothing.

You were telling us about
how Mr. Roberts made you mad,

so you went back
to confront him, tell him off.

Is that what happened?

And then you got
in a fight?

Nope.

I went back to kill him.

So did you argue with him?

Tell him what made you so mad?

I wasn't interested
in talking to him.

Where'd you get the hammer?

My toolbox, obviously.

What about the real estate
agent, Danielle Minnick?

She thought she was
better than me, too.

I said hello to her once
in line at the store,

and she didn't even turn around
and look at me.

Acted like I was invisible.

You don't like being invisible,
do you?

What about the stuff
we found in your room?

I like reading about
that stuff...

killing women.

PITTS:
Yeah, sure.

It's interesting.

But it's more interesting
when you're reading

about stuff you did, isn't it?

I mean, all that press,

police activity.

That must make you feel
pretty important.

I guess.

You had articles

about Kirsten Sullivan's
disappearance.

What can you tell
us about her?

Like what?

PITTS:
Like do you know

where she is?

Yep.

You know where that girl is?

Is she alive?

Come on, Charlie,
you don't want

somebody else getting credit
for that, do you?

I killed Kirsten, too.

Where is she?

Buried her where I told you
to look for the realty lady,

out in North Hendrichs.

Guess people won't ignore you
now, huh, Charlie?

There was no time to
call for a warrant.

Because you heard someone
cry out from inside the house? Right.

Imminent threat.

That's why we went
in, Miss Scofield.

We had reason to believe

he'd already killed the
guy in the greenhouse.

So when we heard
the woman inside,

we couldn't take a chance.

And where was the blood
outside the house?

There were several drops
on the street near the house.

The lab confirmed it,

the blood was from the victim.
Must have

come off the murder weapon
when Charlie carried it home.

So this guy's
going away, right?

I heard he ponied up
for a couple other murders, too.

Case is solid.

Thanks to both of you,

looks like we've
got a serial killer

off the street.
Sometimes it does all work right.

Not often enough,

but, hey,

we take it when it comes.

Thank you.

Hi.
Hi.

I heard Charlie confessed
to killing Kirsten Sullivan.

Yeah.

I still don't get it though.

He goes from killing
a teenager last year

to a young woman six
months ago-- thank you--

and now a family man
in his late 30s?

I mean, that's hardly
the pattern of a serial killer.

Maybe he's an equal
opportunity crazy.

State shrink says
he's competent to stand trial.

Competent is one thing,
crazy is another.

The only reason Charlie's given

is that his victims
weren't nice to him.

That doesn't track.

Somebody pisses you off, maybe
you kill them out of anger once.

But if you kill a
second, third time,

you've got a better reason
than just people being rude.

You kill that many times,
you enjoy killing.

He sure enjoys confessing,
I'll tell you that.

How'd it go with the police?

The reports line up
on Charlie's arrest.

Add the evidence from the house
to the confessions,

and we're
in pretty good shape.

STEVE:
Never count your chickens, ladies.

We've just received a motion

to suppress all the evidence
from Charlie's house--

the blood, the weapon,

the research

on the other cases, all of it.

What? On what grounds?

No warrant.

His attorney is claiming
illegal entry

and violation
of search and seizure.

Who's his public defender?

Joseph Wright

has taken the case.

Of Wright, Holden and Schultz?

That's impressive.

Evidently,
Charlie's mother hired him. But she's

the reason the police went in.

They heard her in distress
inside the house.

Not according to Mom.

I will talk
to Charlie's neighbors,

and see if I can
nail down grounds

for the cops
entering without a warrant.

Good idea.

Maybe somebody else heard
Charlie's mom scream.

WRIGHT:
Your Honor, there was no reason

for the police
to enter that house

without first
getting a warrant.

It's the same nonsense they used
when they jumped OJ's wall.

They claimed he
was at risk,

when in fact, he was
their prime suspect,

and they just
wanted in the house.

Your Honor, the arresting
officers had every reason

to think someone was in danger
in Charlie Forsberg's house.

Sir, I have a statement
from Emily Forsberg,

the defendant's mother, claiming
she made no noise whatsoever,

let alone scream

or cry out.

Okay, so the police would lie,

but his own mother wouldn't?

I couldn't put it better myself.
Your Honor,

the officer found Mr. Forsberg

right next to
the murder weapon,

which shows they were
wholly justified in assuming

he posed a risk to anyone
in that house,

not to mention
the materials they found

relating to the other murders
he's since confessed to.

But if the arrest
was illegal,

they'd all be fruits from the
same poisoned tree, Miss Chase.

Exactly, sir.

Anything found in that house

should be deemed
inadmissible at trial.

Please, what's next?

Do you want
your client released?

As a matter of fact...
JUDGE: Forget it, Mr. Wright.

Your client's
not going anywhere.

But I will take

the suppression motion
under advisement.

You'd never guess,
would you?

I'm sorry?

The house.

It pretty much
looks the same

as all the other ones
on the street.

You'd never guess that such
a terrible person grew up there.

Did you know Charlie?

Oh, I've lived here
over 20 years.

Everybody knows everybody.

He never was
the friendliest fellow,

but I certainly didn't know

he was capable
of murdering someone-- never.

I feel so sorry for Emily.

Poor thing, losing her husband
so young and now this.

Were you home the
morning of the murder?

Oh, yes.

I was baking banana bread
when I saw the police outside.

Next thing I knew,
one of the officers

was walking around back
with his gun out.

The other one was kicking down
the front door, just like TV.

I got so wound up,
I burned my bread.

Did you say one of the officers
was moving toward the back?

They didn't go in together?

No, uh, the one
who kicked down the door,

uh, was shouting to her partner,
and he went running back.

I'm surprised
he could hear anything,

what with Mr. Hoggins next door

with his darn leaf blower
running.

You know, I-I told the other
lawyer all this.

Didn't he tell you?

What lawyer?

Well, the nice fellow.

He was very well dressed.

Uh, what was his name?

Mr. Wright, that was it.

Do you two work together?

Not exactly.

How'd the suppression
hearing go?

ANNABETH:
Unfortunately, the judge is taking it under advisement.

Let's just say
I've had better days in court.

Don't shoot the messenger,

but I'm about to take your lousy
day and make it disastrous.

What?

I think the police are lying.

You're kidding.

Wait, it gets worse.

The defense knows it,

and I think they can prove it.

????officers said

they heard someone cry out
from inside the house.

Maybe they both did.

Not if Officer Abbott
was where the neighbor said

and the leaf blower
was running back here.

ANNABETH:
They also said

they went in
at the same time,

through the front door,
in response to hearing Charlie's mother.

"And we both entered
the house at that time."

That's not consistent with
what the neighbor said, either.

And now that Wright knows it,

you can bet the judge does, too.

We could risk losing

all the evidence
that was inside that house,

including the bloody murder
weapon and the clippings

linking him to the murders
of Danielle and Kirsten.

So do we believe the cops
or the mother,

who said she did not cry out?

This is a woman who's been
a widow for over 20 years,

and she still
wears her wedding ring.

She's devoted
her life

to the only thing she had left:
her son.

Must be hard to
face the possibility

that you raised
a vicious killer.

I think denial
is probably easier for her

than the pain of admitting
failure as a parent.

So, what, you think
this is all her fault somehow?

Nurture over nature?

No, but she might.

Well, she's
obviously going to be

no help to us.

So can we win the case
if the judge throws out

all the evidence
from the house?

The lab results are back.

Charlie's footprints were found
near the greenhouse,

so were several hairs and fibers
from his jacket.

And we know that he argued
with the victim earlier,

and we have the
victim's blood

near Charlie's house.
It's all circumstantial.

If we lose the hammer, and the
victim's blood in the house,

it's not going to be easy.

Well, let's wait and see
how bad the neighbor hurts us.

Hey. Looks like we found
one of Charlie's victims.

Which one?
Don't know yet.

Police just found a body
up in the area

where he said he buried
the two females.

Let's you and
I go up there.

I want to make sure that
the police are keeping the press

at bay, and I want to remind
them what's at stake.

The evidence they find
at or near the body

may be all we have to
connect Charlie to the murders.

We still haven't
been able

to put him with either Kirsten
or Danielle.

Keep at it--
now that he's got a lawyer,

the confessions may be the next
thing to be challenged.

This was the last picture
we have of Kirsten.

She disappeared a month
after this was taken.

She was 14.

Mr. and Mrs. Sullivan,

I am so sorry.

We never gave up hope.

All this time
we kept thinking

we'd find her
and bring her home.

It's the not knowing
that's so hard.

Do you think
they found her?

We won't know
until they've had a chance

to run all the tests.

This Forsberg, this... thing

that killed our baby,

did he say why?

No, he didn't give a reason.

Did you know him
or have any reason

to think Kirsten did?

No, certainly not.

We don't live near him.

I really can't imagine
where he saw her.

We always tried to know
where she was, who she was with.

Well, we are pushing hard
on all fronts.

You can be certain
of that.

And I'll let you know
as soon as I hear anything more.

What do we got?

Female. Looks like
she's been out here

about six, maybe
eight months.

STEVE:
Can you tell the age?

From the height
and the pelvic width,

I'd say she's between

and 30.

That fits the description

of that real estate agent,
Danielle.

So Kirsten's still
out here somewhere.

We're expanding the search area,
with this as our epicenter.

If anyone else is buried
out here, we'll find them.

Your Honor, before you rule,
may I be heard?

Go ahead.

I think it's
important

that the court be aware
that the police have located

the body of what appears
to be Danielle Minnick.

They did so in the very area
Charles Forsberg

claimed he buried her.

Your Honor, my client
was fascinated by crime

and police
investigations,

as indicated
by the materials

which were illegally
found in his room.

He did copious research
on these unsolved cases,

and it was well-covered
in the press at the time,

that the police
were searching

that particular part
of Hendrichs County.

So what are you saying?

He made a lucky guess

where the body
could be found? Exactly.

ANNABETH:
This is ridiculous.

He didn't merely tell us
where to find her,

he confessed to killing her.

A confession on the heels
of an illegal search.

Any confession
my client made

should be thrown
out as well.

Nice try,
but not a chance, Counselor.

What he chose to tell the police
after he was taken into custody,

is on him.
I have a sworn statement from my client's mother,

stating that,

"Charlie often makes up stories
and exaggerates things."

Right, anything else
from Mommy?

Maybe she's the one
with the vivid imagination.

Okay, you can both

save the song and dance
for the trial.

Right now, the matter before us
is the admissibility

of the evidence taken
from the defendant's home

following his arrest.

The mother says
she didn't call out.

The police say she did.

But the neighbors
statement

directly contradicts
the police reports.

Reports, which
are, by the way,

carbon copies
of each other.

I'm aware of that,
Counselor.

Add the leaf blower
into the mix, and...

quite frankly, I don't feel that
I have reasonable certainty

that either officer heard
anything inside that house.

While it pains me to do so,
Miss Chase,

I must rule in favor
of the defense

in this matter, and grant
the motion to suppress

everything discovered
inside the Forsberg house.

Your Honor, without the blood
evidence, the murder weapon,

or the materials relating
to the other crimes,

there is a real risk
that a dangerous killer

could escape justice.

An alleged killer.

You'll have to make
the case another way.

It's incumbent upon the State
to err on the side of more,

rather than less protection

for potential abuses
of the Fourth Amendment.

in the greenhouse murder
with the evidence suppressed.

Not all of it,

just from inside the house.

We've still got

Charlie's footprints,
fibers,

and hairnear the greenhouse,

and the blood on the curb
near his house.

Which the defense will
try to explain away.

So mostly what we have
are Charlie's confessions.

STEVE:
What about the body they found?

PITTS:
The coroner did make a positive ID.

It is the real estate agent,
Danielle.

Unfortunately, they couldn't
find anything

at the gravesite to connect
Charlie to the murder.

Nothing at all?

No hairs, no traceable fibers.

We do have this.

After she disappeared
the police checked

security videos of stores

she was in that day.

Forsberg did see her.

That part of his confession
checks out.

He was interviewed at the time
along with everybody else

who was in the store...
but he was never a suspect.

STEVE:
Any luck in finding the body of the little girl

Charlie confessed to
killing, uh, Kirsten?

Not yet.

We've expanded
the search area

several hundred yards beyond
where he said he put her.

So far, nothing.

Let's make her
case a part

of this trial, as well.

Good.

Charlie's confessed
to three killings.

We've got two bodies.

My guess
is they'll find

a third body soon.

I think the jury will believe
he killed Kirsten anyway,

even without the body.

ANNABETH:
Ladies and gentlemen,

James Roberts
and Danielle Minnick

were both brutally murdered
by Charlie Forsberg.

James was a loving husband
and father.

Danielle was 30.

She worked as a real estate
agent and was preparing

for her Realtor's exam.

The body of Kirsten Sullivan
has yet to be located,

but the defendant has
also confessed to killing her.

Kirsten was only 14 years old.

There is no doubt
that Charlie Forsberg

committed all of these murders.

In fact, you will hear him admit

to killing each one
of these three people,

in cold blood,
with no other reason

than he felt they
weren't nice to him.

WRIGHT:
And as you will see, the evidence is circumstantial

at best.

Ladies and gentlemen, you will
also hear expert testimony

that these so-called confessions

were nothing more than
my client's misguided attempts

to attract attention
from authority figures.

The kind of attention

that he has never received

due to the tragic loss
of his father

while he was still a young boy.

Yes, ladies
and gentlemen,

my client needs help.

There is no doubt about that.

But that does not
make him a killer.

ANNABETH:
Loretta, why

did your dad tell Charlie
to go away?

He was just
standing there,

sort of staring.

He's kind of weird.

Objection.

Sustained.

Loretta try to just say

what happened that day, okay?

What happened
the day your dad died?

Okay.

Daddy kept telling Charlie
to go away.

I could tell
Charlie and Daddy

were mad.

Is that okay?

Yes, that's fine, dear.

WRIGHT:
I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions, all right?

Um, you said your daddy
asked Charlie to go away.

Did-Did Charlie leave
when your daddy asked him to?

Yeah.
Did you see

Charlie come back
after that,

or go in or out

of the greenhouse
any time later that day?

No.

WRIGHT:
No.

And where was the blood?

On the curb in front
of the Forsberg house.

WRIGHT:
In front of the

Forsberg
house, really?

Because

from what I can tell, it's

at best, near the house.

ANNABETH:
Your Honor, I'd say

he's leading the witness,
but it's more like he's just

testifying
himself.

Stick to asking questions,
Counselor.

I'm sorry,
Your Honor.

Officer, let me
rephrase that.

Based on this
evidence,

was the blood

directly in front of the house?

No.

So as far as you
know, the killer

could have crossed
the street here, or

gone into

a different house.

I suppose.

In fact, based on the evidence,

the killer could have
gotten into a car

right here and driven away.

Isn't that so?

Yes.

Thank you.

Mr. Brown.

So, you did
find evidence

that Mr. Forsberg
had been there?

Yes, near the greenhouse,
we found footprints as well

as several hair and fibers

that match those
of the defendant.

Thank you.

We have heard
testimony

that Mr. Forsberg
occasionally

wandered around
the neighborhood.

If he had been on the

Roberts' property
at some other time,

is it possible

that he could have left
these footprints and fibers

then? In fact,
isn't it possible

he could have left them
the day before the killing,

or, let's say,
the day before that?

I suppose so.

Yes.

Were you the lead technical
investigator at the sight where

Danielle Minnick's
body was located?

Yes.

And did you discover
any evidence

connecting my client
to that victim?

No.

No?

No footprints,
no fibers?

No.

So,

you discovered
absolutely nothing

to suggest,
let alone prove,

that she was killed
by the defendant?

Except he told us
where to find her body.

ANNABETH:
So you went back to confront him,

tell him off,
is that what happened?

No.

I went back to kill him.

ANNABETH:
So did you argue with him?

Tell him what made you so mad?

CHARLIE:
I wasn't interested in talking to him.

PITTS:
Where'd you get the hammer?

My toolbox, obviously.

ANNABETH:
And what about the woman, Danielle Minnick?

Why did you kill her?

She thought
she was better than me, too.

I said hello to her
in line at the store once,

and she didn't even turn around
and look at me.

Acted like I was invisible.

Detective, is it unusual

for someone to confess
to murder?

PITTS:
I suppose.

It would make our job
a lot easier.

Indeed, it would.

And in your experience,

would you say

it's also unusual

for a motive of,
"People weren't very nice to me?"

Objection. Relevance.

Getting there, Your Honor.

I'll allow it.

I suppose.

It's usually
a bit more specific.

I can't speak

to the pathology
of Mr. Forsberg.

No. You can't.

WOMAN:
I'm a clinical psychologist,

and I've been practicing
for about 15 years.

And did you examine
Mr. Forsberg?

I did.

And what was your determination,
Doctor?

I think he suffers
from a general social anxiety.

His history of leaving jobs, his

unusually close relationship
with his mother--

all these things
have rendered Charlie

incapable of normal
social interaction.

WRIGHT:
You know, I watched my client's confession,

and I have to say, he didn't
seem under any undue stress.

In fact, he appeared
calm, even relaxed.

How can that be?

That's because
he adopted an identity finally.

Granted, it happens
to be that of a killer,

but it gave him a persona
to occupy,

whereas before,
he effectively had none at all.

ANNABETH:
Would you say Charlie

is a pathological liar?

No. He's

not incapable
of telling the truth.

So, there
is really

no reason to believe he lied

about killing these people,
is there, Doctor?

All I can tell you is

that Charlie is capable
of telling the truth.

I'll take that as a yes.

Doctor, being able to tell
the truth is one thing, but in

your expert
opinion, is it also

possible that this socially
isolated individual

was actually enjoying

the intense attention
he was getting?

Absolutely.
And in fact,

despite these serious

accusations, might make
a false confession?

Certainly.

He thought
his life was meaningless.

That he was invisible.

This gave him an identity.

So the fact that he admitted

to these killings does
not mean that he did them?

Not necessarily, that's correct.

Thank you.

Doctor, does it mean
that he didn't kill them?

No.

That's also possible.

Thank you.

Counselor,

may we proceed?

Your Honor, I'd like to
request a brief recess.

We'll reconvene in one hour.

What's going on?

That Sullivan
girl turned up.

They found Kirsten.

God. Was she buried
near Danielle

where Forsberg said?

Not even close.

She's right there.

We just
got her back.

Do we have
to do this now?

I think
we do.

MAUREEN:
Kirsten, you had a lot of people

very worried about you
for a long time.

ANNABETH:
Are you aware that a man is

on trial for
your murder?

Yeah, I saw it on TV.

Where have you been
all this time?

In Cameron's apartment.

MRS. SULLIVAN:
You told us

you stopped seeing him.

Only 'cause you told me
I had to.

He was 19.

She was

a baby.

Are you saying
you haven't left

your boyfriend's apartment
in the past year?

I'd go out at night sometimes

when nobody would notice.

Kirsten, we were sick
with worry.

How could you
let us think

( teary ):
that you were dead this whole time?

I'm sorry.

Why did you come back now?

I saw somebody said
he killed me on the news.

That was sort of too weird, and

Cameron and me broke up.

MAUREEN:
I can't imagine

how she could put her parents
through this.

I mean, running away
is one thing, but this?

This-- It's just cruel.

I'm having the
boyfriend arrested.

We're going to charge him
with lying to the police,

as well as statutory rape.

Wright's been
pushing hard

on the pathological liar angle.

This plays right into his hands.

Talk to the
judge, see if

you can minimize the damage
he can do with this news.

Your Honor, clearly
this is grounds

for the immediate
dismissal

of all charges
against my client.

How do you figure that?

Because it proves
what I've been arguing

all along.

He confessed to the murders
for the attention.

Perhaps you're aware, one of
the alleged victims is not dead?

Let's not get carried away,
Mr. Wright. All

we know for sure is that he lied
about killing Kirsten Sullivan.

I'll inform the jury the
third murder charge has

been dropped, we'll proceed
on the other two victims.

ANNABETH:
And I would ask that you instruct

the defense not to introduce
any further details pertaining

to Kirsten's return.

Allowing him to expand
upon the basic facts

would be highly prejudicial,
Your Honor.

That is outrageous, sir.

Her being alive goes
to the heart of my defense.

The defense may

utilize this girl's return

any way it sees fit,
within reason, Counselor.

Don't make a mockery
of my court.

It'll be up to the jury

to decide homuch to weight it
against everything else.

ANNABETH:
Is she alive?

Come on, Charlie.

You don't want somebody else
getting credit for that, do you?

Yeah.

I killed Kirsten, too.

PITTS:
Where is she?

Buried in the same place
I told you to look

for the realty lady,
out in North Hendricks.

Your Honor, we call
Kirsten Sullivan to the stand.

Would you please state
your name for the record?

Kirsten Elizabeth Sullivan.

And are you the same Kirsten
Sullivan who was reported

missing in January
of last year?

Yes.

The defendant,
Charlie Forsberg,

is currently on trial
for your murder.

But the truth is
that you chose

to leave home
of your own free will,

and have, in fact, been living
with your boyfriend

for the past 12 months,
is that correct?

Yes.

Do you know Charles Forsberg?

No.

Have you ever
seen him before?

No,

never.

Thank you.

And may I just say,
it is delightful

to see you
alive and well.

Nothing further.

Does the prosecution wish

to examine this witness?

No, Your Honor.

WRIGHT:
Your Honor,

the defense rests.

Very well.

We'll hear closing arguments
Monday.

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How did it go?

As bad as you'd expect.

You-You could see it
in the jurors faces.

Ray got to them.

If they really think

Charlie made it up,
they could acquit.

You still have your closing.
It's going

to be hard to unring this bell.

I mean, the verdict is a total
crapshoot at this point.

Talk to Wright, maybe
he's not at all

sure how the jury
will go, either.

Let's see if we can

offer him a deal.

Charlie Forsberg murdered
two people in cold blood.

Propose two counts
of manslaughter, 24 years.

If he offers a
reasonable counter,

it may be our best play here.

It's better than having
him back on the street

in an acquittal.

Better for all of us.

Did you just see that?

I think I did.
How could Kirsten

know Charlie's mother?

STEVE:
Let's find out.

And, Annabeth,
see if you can dig anything

out of Charlie about this.

Kirsten, how do you know
Mrs. Forsberg?

Who's that?

She is the mother of the man
on trial.

You hugged her outside
of court yesterday.

Oh, yeah.

She always just told us
her to call her Emily.

I didn't know she
was that guy's mom.

She was sometimes

like a tutor outside school.

And that's the only time
you saw her?

After school?

Yeah.

Once, when I missed the late
bus, she gave me a ride home.

I'm prepared
to reduce the charge

to two counts

of manslaughter.

He serves 24 years.

Well, you must be joking,

because you have absolutely
no evidence

that my client
killed Danielle Minnick.

But we all know he
killed James Roberts,

and the jury just heard him

confess to
killing Danielle.

He could get life.

Or he could walk,

because we both know what
those confessions are worth now.

I'll tell you what.

I'll go you halfway.

He does one count, eight years.

There was an argument,

it escalated, and Charlie

will admit
to striking Mr. Roberts

in the heat of the moment.

And what about Danielle Minnick.

As with Kirsten Sullivan,

my client falsely took credit
for her tragic death.

Tell me, Charlie, why did you
lie about killing Kirsten?

You don't have
to answer that.

Maybe I would have killed her
if I had to.

Why would you have to?

Just would have.

But saying you killed
a little girl,

I mean, you
must have known

that would upset
your mother even more.

Leave her out of this.

Okay, that's enough.
Why? Were you trying to hurt her?

Is that what all this is about?

Hurting your mom?

Miss Chase,
I said that's enough.

I would never hurt my mother.

Never.

ANNABETH:
But you did.

Did you know she knew Kirsten?

She gave her
a hug today

in the courthouse;
it was very sweet.

That's a lie.

Charlie.

You're lying.

She wouldn't.

That girl just tried
to take her away.

They all did.
That is enough!

We are done here.

Thank you very much.

MAUREEN:
Charlie's mother tutored

a couple afternoons a week
at Kirsten's school.

After she disappeared,

the volunteer program
was discontinued.

The parents wanted their kids to
come straight home after school.

But Kirsten claims
she never even met Charlie.

Doesn't mean he never saw her.

ANNABETH:
I keep trying

to find a way to connect Charlie

to each of these victims.

But what if we're
looking at this all wrong.

What if it wasn't Charlie's
connection to these people

that was so important.

What if it was his mother's?

I think Charlie

became so attached
to his mother

that he was unwilling
to share her with anyone.

But Charlie didn't kill Kirsten.

No, but her disappearance
could have given him the idea.

After Kirsten vanished,
Mom was suddenly home more.

Charlie realized
that if the people

that were coming between them
were out of the picture,

he could have her
all to himself again.

PITTS:
Nah. I don't know.

What could her connection
to James Roberts possibly be

other than just being
a neighbor?

STEVE:
Well, see if we can find out.

And let's look closer,
see if we can find

a connection between
the mother and the Realtor.

Mrs. Roberts, you
told the police

that your husband
and Mrs. Forsberg

were both interested
in gardening?

That's right.

They loved it.

They spent hours fussing
in that silly greenhouse.

They were even talking
about taking a class

at the community college
on the weekends.

James lost both his parents
years ago.

It was sweet.

I got Danielle Minnick's
real estate report.

And?

The Forsberg house was up
for sale when she disappeared.

She wasn't
the selling agent,

but the property
was on her regular caravan.

That's why
we didn't catch it sooner.

And?

And, one of her clients

made an offer,
but the financing fell through.

A week later the house
was taken off the market.

Why didn't you tell the police

that you were planning to move
six months ago?

I didn't think
it was important.

I mean, I thought about moving
to Arizona

to be closer to my sister,

but Charlie was
so upset about it.

He refused to even look
for his own place.

I felt awful.

I just didn't want to push it.

Danielle frequently brought
perspective buyers to the house.

She was killed not long after
preparing an offer

for one of them.
Yes.

And you
and James Roberts

spent time gardening

and were talking about taking
a weekend class together.

He was my neighbor
and my friend.

I-I don't understand...

I believe your son targeted
anyone he thought

threatened to take
your attention away from him.

( laughs ):
That is ridiculous.

After Kirsten disappeared,

you no longer had
to spend time at the school.

Charlie lied
about hurting Kirsten.

And he lied
about the others too.

He just needs help is all.

Mrs. Forsberg,

I understand your impulse
to protect your child.

I'm a mother too,

and I would do anything
for my daughter.

But this is different.

You saw Charlie
and the blood on the hammer

that he used
to kill James that day.

Without your help,

there's a real possibility
that your son could go free.

Charlie is my son.

He's all I have.

I want him to come home.

I don't think you do.

What is this?

Last month, Charlie
made the final payment

on two cemetery plots.

One for him and one for you.

I already have a plot
with my husband.

This isn't even
at the same cemetery.

No, it isn't.

And that's a sign of just
how strong his obsession is.

The only person
that can come between

you and Charlie now, is you.

I believe Charlie

is so afraid
of being abandoned by you,

of being left alone,
that he could kill you next,

and himself as well,

to make sure that
you'll never be apart.

Mrs. Forsberg,

you've created a version of
events that explains them away.

I know you want to believe
the best about your son,

but it's too late.

I need your help.

I need you to tell the truth.

The morning James was killed,

I heard Charlie come home.

The back door slammed.

And when I finally
came into the room,

Charlie was standing there

with the hammer in his hand,

and it looked like
it was covered with blood.

But the look in his eyes...

that's what startled me
the most.

And did you gasp or cry out
when you saw this?

Yes, I think I did.

Something came out of me.

And that's when
the police entered?

( chokes up ):
Yes.

I am so sorry.

I had no idea.

I did the best I could.

( softly ):
The best I could.

Oh, Charlie.

I am so sorry.

JUDGE:
Charles Forsberg,

for the murders of James Roberts
and Danielle Minnick,

the State of Indiana
sentences you

to two terms of life in prison

without the possibility
of parole,

to be served consecutively.

Take the prisoner into custody.

It really is terrifying,
isn't it?

What is?

Not knowing if you're
doing it right,

or screwing
everything up somehow.

The joys of parenthood, babe.

You really think it's all up
to us how she turns out?

I don't know.

Well, thank God
we're perfect parents.

( chuckles ):
Yeah, right.

And I don't see that

serial killer look
in her eye.

Little angel is never going
to do anything wrong,

are you monkey?

Never, ever.

I'll remind you of that

the first time
she tells you she hates you.

Or misses her curfew.
Mm...

Or gets pregnant.

Hey.

None of that stuff
is ever going to happen.

And if it does,
we'll love her anyway.

It would be nice
if she came

with an instruction manual,
though, wouldn't it?

Yeah, but I think we're
doing a pretty damn good job.

And maybe...

maybe we should try
and have another one.

Just in case
we mess this one up.

Shut up.

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