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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,736 You once said in American Weekly, 2 00:00:40,866 --> 00:00:44,131 You said: "Women, they're an necessary nuisance." 3 00:00:44,261 --> 00:00:47,438 You said, "American women have 4 00:00:47,569 --> 00:00:50,963 to learn to accept a man's domination." 5 00:00:51,094 --> 00:00:52,226 Did I say that? 6 00:00:54,097 --> 00:00:56,012 Who was the boss of your family? 7 00:00:56,143 --> 00:00:57,753 Absolutely my husband. 8 00:00:57,883 --> 00:00:59,276 What is a husband? A husband Is the guy who's 9 00:00:59,407 --> 00:01:02,236 is in charge and should be all of the time. 10 00:01:02,366 --> 00:01:04,107 And this thing about saying let's talk it all over 11 00:01:04,238 --> 00:01:05,848 this baloney, it doesn't matter. 12 00:01:05,978 --> 00:01:08,459 It doesn't work because talking it over, only... 13 00:01:08,590 --> 00:01:10,983 Is a kind of a relentless insidious and it's about a woman. 14 00:01:11,114 --> 00:01:12,594 Do you hear me? 15 00:01:12,724 --> 00:01:16,119 I really don't know what women are asking for. 16 00:01:16,250 --> 00:01:18,600 Now, suppose I wanted to give it to them. 17 00:01:18,730 --> 00:01:20,689 Listen, you may as well relax because whatever 18 00:01:20,819 --> 00:01:22,908 it is they're asking for, honey, it's not for you. 19 00:02:32,630 --> 00:02:36,156 It was 1967 in Dallas, Texas. 20 00:02:39,071 --> 00:02:41,900 Four years after the Kennedy assassination, the 21 00:02:42,031 --> 00:02:45,077 Cowboys were hosting the Falcons at the Cotton Bowl. 22 00:02:47,079 --> 00:02:49,125 The cheerleaders were there but they were 23 00:02:49,256 --> 00:02:52,868 high school kids, boy and girl couples who tried 24 00:02:52,998 --> 00:02:55,218 to lead cheers at the football stadium but 25 00:02:55,349 --> 00:02:58,265 they never captured the fans' imagination. 26 00:03:00,354 --> 00:03:05,141 And then at half-time, a woman walks down the aisle on the home team side. 27 00:03:06,882 --> 00:03:09,189 She was an exotic dancer a topless Dancer 28 00:03:09,319 --> 00:03:13,541 or call it what you want, but Dallas knew her as Bubbles Cash. 29 00:03:13,671 --> 00:03:14,585 Bubbles Cash. 30 00:03:14,716 --> 00:03:15,456 Do you remember that? 31 00:03:15,586 --> 00:03:17,066 Bubbles Cash. 32 00:03:17,197 --> 00:03:19,460 She was a stripper. Well, yeah. 33 00:03:19,590 --> 00:03:23,942 And this woman had big hair and she had a short mini skirt 34 00:03:24,073 --> 00:03:29,296 and she carried in each hand cotton candy but just like pompoms. 35 00:03:29,426 --> 00:03:33,125 People turned around, the players on the field, the coaches, the referees. 36 00:03:33,256 --> 00:03:37,565 She was such a sex bomb, you could not miss Bubbles Cash. 37 00:03:39,828 --> 00:03:43,484 And this is the moment when general manager Tex Schramm has a vision that would 38 00:03:43,614 --> 00:03:47,401 change the game of football in America forever. 39 00:03:57,193 --> 00:03:59,674 These are the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders. 40 00:03:59,804 --> 00:04:02,459 Fans sometimes spend as much time watching 41 00:04:02,590 --> 00:04:05,810 them as they do watching the Cowboys. 42 00:04:05,941 --> 00:04:08,900 In 1972, when we walked out there 43 00:04:09,031 --> 00:04:12,252 on that field, people went crazy in the stadium. 44 00:04:12,382 --> 00:04:14,471 The next day, it was on all the news. 45 00:04:14,602 --> 00:04:16,604 It was in the newspaper. 46 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,824 Everybody's going: "Did you see what they 47 00:04:19,955 --> 00:04:21,826 had on or what they didn't have on?" 48 00:04:21,957 --> 00:04:24,351 They didn't look like all-American 49 00:04:24,481 --> 00:04:26,788 college kids anymore or high school kids. 50 00:04:26,918 --> 00:04:30,792 They were the most sexed up cheerleaders anywhere. 51 00:04:30,922 --> 00:04:36,406 Midriff, hot pants, the boots, men would be howling. 52 00:04:36,537 --> 00:04:40,323 You know, you could see a wife nudge went up and stuff like that. 53 00:04:40,454 --> 00:04:43,283 This is not two, four, six, eight, who do you appreciate? 54 00:04:43,413 --> 00:04:46,764 This is Broadway coming to your sideline. 55 00:04:46,895 --> 00:04:48,636 This is a show. 56 00:04:48,766 --> 00:04:50,290 They perform. 57 00:04:51,900 --> 00:04:55,251 It was just this whole new way of thinking of it. 58 00:04:55,382 --> 00:04:59,777 It's like putting a sparkle on the sidelines to glitter and glam. 59 00:04:59,908 --> 00:05:01,866 No one's thinking like this. 60 00:05:01,997 --> 00:05:06,349 Tex Schramm sees the future of the NFL on TV when no one does. 61 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,786 You are in the entertainment business as well 62 00:05:08,917 --> 00:05:11,833 as being in the sports business or the two are synonymous, 63 00:05:11,963 --> 00:05:15,227 and we think that it adds color and a little bit of 64 00:05:15,358 --> 00:05:19,101 excitement at our games and for the television camera. 65 00:05:19,231 --> 00:05:24,802 I mean you tune in CBS with that great voice of Pat Summerall. 66 00:05:24,933 --> 00:05:27,196 I'm Pat Summerall. This is Tom Brookshier. 67 00:05:27,327 --> 00:05:31,156 You'd see Landry in a suit and tie and a goofy little hat 68 00:05:31,287 --> 00:05:34,551 and here comes Staubach leading the team onto the field, 69 00:05:34,682 --> 00:05:37,249 throwing his pass to Drew Pearson who would constantly just get 70 00:05:37,380 --> 00:05:41,428 flipped head over heels and yet somehow hang on to the ball. 71 00:05:41,558 --> 00:05:44,474 Dorset would take off on a long touchdown run. 72 00:05:48,435 --> 00:05:52,003 And then CBS would cut away to Dana Presley. 73 00:05:52,134 --> 00:05:54,658 I've seen all I need to see. 74 00:05:54,789 --> 00:05:56,486 My life's over now. 75 00:05:58,445 --> 00:06:00,577 But Dallas is a place where the sacred and the profane exist 76 00:06:00,708 --> 00:06:04,233 simultaneously, sometimes right across the street from one another. 77 00:06:04,364 --> 00:06:08,455 It's fundamental religion and hellraisers, and so you had a 78 00:06:08,585 --> 00:06:15,418 lot of pushback early on and the pushback was led by the coach's wife. 79 00:06:15,549 --> 00:06:17,725 Alicia Landry, Tom's wife, didn't like us. 80 00:06:19,074 --> 00:06:22,120 She did not like that there was too much... 81 00:06:24,862 --> 00:06:26,864 boob showing. 82 00:06:26,995 --> 00:06:30,607 So, at one game, we had these little pieces of blue fabric that 83 00:06:30,738 --> 00:06:34,916 snapped into our uniform top and they were called modesty shields. 84 00:06:35,046 --> 00:06:38,615 That experiment lasted one-half. 85 00:06:38,746 --> 00:06:40,617 The outcry was so bad, they came down 86 00:06:40,748 --> 00:06:45,622 to our dressing room and said: "Get those off. They're terrible." 87 00:06:45,753 --> 00:06:47,885 There's always people in our society who want to 88 00:06:48,016 --> 00:06:51,236 tell other people what they should and should not enjoy. 89 00:06:51,367 --> 00:06:55,110 And what I find refreshing, and there's not nearly enough of it anymore, 90 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,679 is a guy like Tex Schramm who says that: "I hear your criticism. 91 00:06:58,809 --> 00:06:59,941 I just don't care. 92 00:07:00,071 --> 00:07:01,290 I know this sells. 93 00:07:01,421 --> 00:07:02,813 I know this works." 94 00:07:02,944 --> 00:07:08,123 Go, Cowboy, go! Go, Cowboy, go! 95 00:07:08,253 --> 00:07:10,299 It was in 1976. 96 00:07:10,430 --> 00:07:12,083 It was the bicentennial. 97 00:07:12,214 --> 00:07:15,043 The cheerleaders were well known in Dallas, but at that 98 00:07:15,173 --> 00:07:18,176 Super Bowl they suddenly became a national phenomenon. 99 00:07:18,307 --> 00:07:21,658 You ask anybody what one of the biggest games 100 00:07:21,789 --> 00:07:25,270 in NFL history was, and Super Bowl X 101 00:07:25,401 --> 00:07:28,491 between the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Dallas Cowboys 102 00:07:28,622 --> 00:07:31,363 is going to make that list invariably. 103 00:07:31,494 --> 00:07:35,150 Touchdown Drew Pearson The Cowboys take the lead. 104 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,674 CBS was figuring out how we're going to televise 105 00:07:37,805 --> 00:07:39,894 the Super Bowl, talked about a lot of things, 106 00:07:40,024 --> 00:07:42,679 but one consensus agreement was they were going to 107 00:07:42,810 --> 00:07:45,116 key in on the Cowboys Cheerleaders. 108 00:07:45,247 --> 00:07:46,901 How'd you get the idea for Honey Shot then? 109 00:07:47,031 --> 00:07:48,772 I got the idea for Honey Shots because 110 00:07:48,903 --> 00:07:53,124 I am a dirty old man, okay, because I turned, uh, 17. 111 00:07:53,255 --> 00:07:55,126 I remember I was terrified. 112 00:07:55,257 --> 00:07:57,085 Every time I looked at a girl, I just crumbled, and I thought: 113 00:07:57,215 --> 00:07:59,174 "If I'm like that, maybe other people are like that." 114 00:07:59,304 --> 00:08:00,436 And you know what? They are. 115 00:08:02,177 --> 00:08:05,746 The notoriety and fame, it seems so silly 116 00:08:05,876 --> 00:08:09,271 now to think that that totally came from a wink. 117 00:08:09,401 --> 00:08:12,230 It was the right game, right place, right time. 118 00:08:12,361 --> 00:08:17,192 And when one of those cheerleaders winked at the camera, 119 00:08:18,715 --> 00:08:20,674 the nation forgot there was a football game going on. 120 00:08:20,804 --> 00:08:25,200 This is really the wink that launched the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders. 121 00:08:25,330 --> 00:08:26,418 The wink. 122 00:08:26,549 --> 00:08:28,725 Oh, the wink changed everything. 123 00:08:30,118 --> 00:08:33,164 One of the cheerleaders, Gwenda Swearingen, who obviously 124 00:08:33,295 --> 00:08:37,212 was a beautiful child and she had no idea what she was doing. 125 00:08:37,342 --> 00:08:39,127 Oh, the Gwendolyn Wink. 126 00:08:39,257 --> 00:08:42,130 It was just pure magic right out of a Hollywood script. 127 00:08:42,260 --> 00:08:44,872 And everybody thought in America 128 00:08:45,002 --> 00:08:46,917 that that wink was just for them. 129 00:08:48,266 --> 00:08:52,357 After the wink, it seemed like all hell broke loose. 130 00:08:52,488 --> 00:08:56,884 I mean, there were calls from Hollywood, William Morris Agency, 131 00:08:57,014 --> 00:09:01,628 marketing companies wanting us to do unbelievable things. 132 00:09:01,758 --> 00:09:04,674 And Tex Schramm had a very strong television 133 00:09:04,805 --> 00:09:08,025 media background and he saw the potential for it. 134 00:09:08,156 --> 00:09:12,029 The first time I walked into Tex Schramm's office, I had 135 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:17,121 no idea who he was and I really didn't care about the Cowboys. 136 00:09:17,252 --> 00:09:20,995 His really big question to me was what I wanted to do in 137 00:09:21,125 --> 00:09:24,259 five years with the Cowboys, and I just looked at him and said: 138 00:09:24,389 --> 00:09:27,175 "Your chair is pretty comfortable." And he thought that was 139 00:09:27,305 --> 00:09:32,702 hysterical, so he banged on the desk and said: "You're hired." 140 00:09:32,833 --> 00:09:35,096 Now, understand at the time I was doing 141 00:09:35,226 --> 00:09:37,054 all his personal financial work. 142 00:09:37,185 --> 00:09:41,450 I was doing all the player contract work, all the NFL work, 143 00:09:41,581 --> 00:09:46,063 then came Super Bowl X in Miami, and that's why he called me 144 00:09:46,194 --> 00:09:48,892 into his office and said: "Somebody's got to handle this, 145 00:09:49,023 --> 00:09:53,767 so you do it in your spare time." And I just said: "Okeydokey." 146 00:10:02,210 --> 00:10:04,212 Suzanne Mitchell was probably the perfect 147 00:10:04,342 --> 00:10:06,388 hire to be in charge of the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders. 148 00:10:06,518 --> 00:10:07,868 This is a strong woman. 149 00:10:07,998 --> 00:10:09,957 I think I was more afraid of upsetting 150 00:10:10,087 --> 00:10:12,176 Suzanne Mitchell than I've ever been of upsetting 151 00:10:12,307 --> 00:10:15,440 any coach or owner or general manager in any sport. 152 00:10:15,571 --> 00:10:18,226 She was kind of scary at times. 153 00:10:18,356 --> 00:10:20,663 Suzanne, that was our mama bear. 154 00:10:20,794 --> 00:10:23,535 She would take you on. 155 00:10:23,666 --> 00:10:26,626 I crossed her one time when I was in her office and I was just kind of 156 00:10:26,756 --> 00:10:29,977 browsing through this big box she had on the corner of her desk. 157 00:10:30,107 --> 00:10:31,805 I didn't think it was any big deal. 158 00:10:33,067 --> 00:10:35,243 She let me know it was a big deal. 159 00:10:35,373 --> 00:10:38,812 I didn't browse around on Suzanne Mitchell's desk ever again. 160 00:10:38,942 --> 00:10:40,944 She was a tough cookie but she 161 00:10:41,075 --> 00:10:45,166 had to be, and if she had not been as tough as she was, 162 00:10:45,296 --> 00:10:47,777 I think things would have gotten way out of control. 163 00:10:47,908 --> 00:10:50,040 You're asking about my private life? 164 00:10:50,171 --> 00:10:54,523 There was no private life. There was none. 165 00:10:54,654 --> 00:10:58,919 I mean, literally, I worked seven days a week, 18 hours a day. 166 00:10:59,049 --> 00:11:00,268 I truly did. 167 00:11:01,530 --> 00:11:04,751 The first year we had like 250 auditions. 168 00:11:05,882 --> 00:11:09,451 The second year, I had 4,000 applications. 169 00:11:10,931 --> 00:11:12,672 The Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders 170 00:11:12,802 --> 00:11:14,499 have been called the most select line up 171 00:11:14,630 --> 00:11:17,938 of women west of the Radio City Music Hall Rockettes. 172 00:11:18,068 --> 00:11:22,943 You're dealing with Miss this, Miss that, Homecoming Queen, 173 00:11:23,073 --> 00:11:27,861 cheerleader, all thought they were hotsy-totsy, wonderful: 174 00:11:27,991 --> 00:11:30,602 "I'm the best one here and I'm the cutest one." 175 00:11:32,126 --> 00:11:37,044 But they're in a room full of people thinking exactly the same thing. 176 00:11:38,872 --> 00:11:41,004 I remember my aunt in San Diego telling me 177 00:11:41,135 --> 00:11:45,356 to never be a cheerleader because they're exploiting themselves on TV. 178 00:11:45,487 --> 00:11:48,055 I was like: "Oh, I'll never be a cheerleader." Mm. 179 00:11:48,185 --> 00:11:52,929 Well, my father was a cheerleader at Rice. 180 00:11:53,060 --> 00:11:55,845 I was actually 17 when I auditioned. 181 00:11:55,976 --> 00:11:58,369 I was supposed to be 18. I never told anybody that. 182 00:11:58,500 --> 00:12:01,633 I was raised in Collinsville, Texas, population 800. 183 00:12:01,764 --> 00:12:05,072 No dancing in school because it was sinful and corrupt. 184 00:12:05,202 --> 00:12:06,508 I hold peanuts. 185 00:12:06,638 --> 00:12:08,336 I hold cotton. 186 00:12:08,466 --> 00:12:11,774 And so I was always a loner, so, I tried out for 187 00:12:11,905 --> 00:12:13,907 cheerleader without telling anyone. 188 00:12:14,037 --> 00:12:15,604 Growing up, I was climbing trees. 189 00:12:15,735 --> 00:12:17,388 My sister was playing Barbie dolls. 190 00:12:17,519 --> 00:12:19,260 I was a tomboy. 191 00:12:19,390 --> 00:12:22,002 My whole life I wanted to be a quarterback 192 00:12:22,132 --> 00:12:23,786 of a professional football team. 193 00:12:23,917 --> 00:12:26,833 I never made the high school squad because 194 00:12:26,963 --> 00:12:31,968 I wasn't good enough, I guess, or they didn't like my look, but when I went to 195 00:12:32,099 --> 00:12:35,015 college, I was the first African-American cheerleader 196 00:12:35,145 --> 00:12:39,759 they ever had at Texas Lutheran and then I came back and tried out for Dallas. 197 00:12:39,889 --> 00:12:44,198 I auditioned the first time in 1981. I was in college. I was married. 198 00:12:44,328 --> 00:12:47,679 I mentioned it one night at dinner with my then husband and 199 00:12:47,810 --> 00:12:49,899 He said: "There's no way you'd make it." So it started out 200 00:12:50,030 --> 00:12:54,251 as just a dare, but once I met those 250 other girls at 201 00:12:54,382 --> 00:12:57,907 semi-finals, it became: "I must do this or I will die." 202 00:12:58,038 --> 00:13:04,000 We're looking for an all-American, sexy girl, one that has a very 203 00:13:04,131 --> 00:13:08,613 good background, a very good personality as far as 204 00:13:08,744 --> 00:13:12,400 representing the Cowboys and Dallas, Texas. 205 00:13:12,530 --> 00:13:15,707 I'm a writer, I'm a journalist and I was asked to write a book 206 00:13:15,838 --> 00:13:18,580 about the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders. 207 00:13:18,710 --> 00:13:24,107 And so I spent nine months with Suzanne Mitchell and the cheerleaders. 208 00:13:24,238 --> 00:13:29,983 The cheerleading tryouts were... it blew me away. 209 00:13:30,113 --> 00:13:35,162 Everyone has got the make-up, and the clothes, and the cleavage and, you know, 210 00:13:35,292 --> 00:13:38,861 the bathrooms are full of everyone's blowing their hair and curling it. 211 00:13:38,992 --> 00:13:42,212 It's very much of a performance-type feeling. 212 00:13:42,343 --> 00:13:44,911 Suzanne came across very intimidating. 213 00:13:45,041 --> 00:13:47,478 She got a pair of readers on top of her head 214 00:13:47,609 --> 00:13:49,698 and a pair of readers across the bridge of her nose. 215 00:13:49,829 --> 00:13:52,353 She's got her legs crossed and she's tapping a pencil and looking 216 00:13:52,483 --> 00:13:55,922 at you and you're like: "Am I doing good? Is... you know, is she liking this?" 217 00:13:56,052 --> 00:14:00,752 Toni was 18 years old and I wondered why the hell she was 218 00:14:00,883 --> 00:14:04,582 even there because she couldn't dance her way out of a paper bag. 219 00:14:27,214 --> 00:14:31,479 My routine was from Billy Preston, Nothing from Nothing Gets Nothing, 220 00:14:31,609 --> 00:14:34,874 and I had a big pompom hairdo 221 00:14:35,004 --> 00:14:39,095 and it was more of a comedy routine. 222 00:14:39,226 --> 00:14:42,794 I wore a black outfit and I wanted to be like, 223 00:14:42,925 --> 00:14:46,015 look like a girl paladin, you know, "have gun, will travel". 224 00:14:46,146 --> 00:14:48,104 When I got up on the stage, 225 00:14:48,235 --> 00:14:52,630 I shot at all the judges 226 00:14:52,761 --> 00:14:57,461 And then I did a twirl, and I blew on the gun, and then I walked off. 227 00:14:58,506 --> 00:15:00,812 The process took about two months. 228 00:15:00,943 --> 00:15:03,641 Finally got to the finals and then I suddenly realized: 229 00:15:03,772 --> 00:15:06,601 "I want this more than I've ever wanted anything else." 230 00:15:06,731 --> 00:15:08,037 They were desperate. 231 00:15:08,168 --> 00:15:10,170 They would go sob in the bathroom 232 00:15:10,300 --> 00:15:12,302 afterwards because they had messed up. 233 00:15:13,782 --> 00:15:15,262 When we were sitting down in the pickup truck eating 234 00:15:15,392 --> 00:15:17,917 our baloney sandwiches and drinking our sweet tea, 235 00:15:18,047 --> 00:15:19,440 there was an announcement on the radio and 236 00:15:19,570 --> 00:15:21,572 Ron Chapman says: "I'm going to announce the 237 00:15:21,703 --> 00:15:24,836 36 girls who made the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader Squad." 238 00:15:24,967 --> 00:15:27,230 And my dad goes: "What the heck, 239 00:15:27,361 --> 00:15:29,754 there are no professional cheerleaders, are there?" 240 00:15:29,885 --> 00:15:34,498 The winners are, number 14, Vonciel Baker. 241 00:15:36,718 --> 00:15:38,981 Number 50, Shannon Baker. 242 00:15:40,156 --> 00:15:42,289 They called out Sherrie McCorkle 243 00:15:42,419 --> 00:15:44,291 and when they did, my dad like fell out of the truck 244 00:15:44,421 --> 00:15:46,119 and my sisters were ecstatic 245 00:15:46,249 --> 00:15:48,425 and my life has never been the same since. 246 00:15:48,556 --> 00:15:50,514 My mother was not thrilled. 247 00:15:50,645 --> 00:15:54,257 She was very baptist and said: "Oh, my god. 248 00:15:54,388 --> 00:15:56,129 You're going to be out in front of God 249 00:15:56,259 --> 00:15:58,479 and everybody showing your navel?" 250 00:15:58,609 --> 00:16:02,352 I had no idea I would make it out of 3,000 girls. 251 00:16:02,483 --> 00:16:06,835 So when my name was called, I was ecstatic. 252 00:16:06,966 --> 00:16:10,534 Ladies and gentleman, your new Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders. 253 00:16:12,232 --> 00:16:15,626 My boyfriend was not as excited. 254 00:16:15,757 --> 00:16:19,108 In fact, he said: "You're gonna have to pick between being a 255 00:16:19,239 --> 00:16:21,676 Dallas Cowboy cheerleader, or dating me." 256 00:16:21,806 --> 00:16:24,461 I said: "Well, gotta go. See ya." 257 00:16:38,388 --> 00:16:42,740 Suzanne once told me that she had these images in 258 00:16:42,871 --> 00:16:46,179 her mind that she thought the Cowboys' fans would love. 259 00:16:46,309 --> 00:16:49,138 And if you noticed, over the years, she was always 260 00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:51,445 looking for girls to fit into those images. 261 00:16:51,575 --> 00:16:55,101 There was the redhead. There was Tami with the pigtails. 262 00:16:55,231 --> 00:16:57,668 There was the blond. There is the brunette. 263 00:16:57,799 --> 00:17:03,022 Blacks, whites, Hispanics, Asians. It just kind of lull you in. 264 00:17:03,152 --> 00:17:06,982 The diversity of the cheerleaders, was important to Suzanne. 265 00:17:07,113 --> 00:17:08,940 She wanted to pick a different variety 266 00:17:09,071 --> 00:17:11,204 of girls so that the people on the stands or on the 267 00:17:11,334 --> 00:17:13,815 television, could have somebody they could relate to. 268 00:17:13,945 --> 00:17:17,036 The Dallas Cowboys were probably one of the single 269 00:17:17,166 --> 00:17:20,952 most important factors of integration in the city of Dallas. 270 00:17:21,083 --> 00:17:24,086 Black people went to black churches, white people went to white churches. 271 00:17:24,217 --> 00:17:25,783 Black people went to black schools and 272 00:17:25,914 --> 00:17:27,959 white people went to white schools. 273 00:17:28,090 --> 00:17:30,397 Everybody went to Texas Stadium on Sunday. 274 00:17:30,527 --> 00:17:33,139 We had some very articulate, well-educated girls, 275 00:17:33,269 --> 00:17:37,273 and then we had some off the turnip truck. 276 00:17:37,404 --> 00:17:42,931 Suzanne had a natural promoter's instinct in her. I mean, it was in her blood. 277 00:17:43,062 --> 00:17:47,153 As it was described to me, I wasn't one of the pretty ones 278 00:17:47,283 --> 00:17:51,592 And so the whole thing with the pigtails came from: "We need a gimmick." 279 00:17:51,722 --> 00:17:54,247 I didn't realize it would grow into what it would be. 280 00:17:54,377 --> 00:17:56,901 I mean, the pigtails became like their own entity. 281 00:17:57,032 --> 00:17:59,252 She knew what the public wanted. 282 00:17:59,382 --> 00:18:02,211 They were Bible Belt good girls, you know, 283 00:18:02,342 --> 00:18:04,300 but they were selling sex, come on. 284 00:18:04,431 --> 00:18:05,997 They weren't putting flat-chested girls 285 00:18:06,128 --> 00:18:08,304 in those uniforms, but they were abusing 286 00:18:08,435 --> 00:18:11,351 the dichotomy of look, but don't touch 287 00:18:11,481 --> 00:18:14,223 which is always so much sexier. 288 00:18:14,354 --> 00:18:16,007 The thing that I've always tried to figure out 289 00:18:16,138 --> 00:18:18,575 is how the Dallas Cowboys did pull this off. 290 00:18:18,706 --> 00:18:22,666 You had the cheerleaders in hot pants and halter tops, 291 00:18:22,797 --> 00:18:25,713 the boots, and the big blond hair, and there's no question 292 00:18:25,843 --> 00:18:28,107 they were selling the sex appeal of these young women, 293 00:18:28,237 --> 00:18:31,022 and yet at the same time, they were like the girl next door. 294 00:18:31,153 --> 00:18:33,503 I don't know where that next door would be. 295 00:18:33,634 --> 00:18:36,115 I mean, none of them have ever lived next door to me. 296 00:18:38,856 --> 00:18:42,469 We got a lot of criticism in the beginning. 297 00:18:42,599 --> 00:18:45,820 Basically, it was, I was a madame. 298 00:18:45,950 --> 00:18:48,475 I was a procurer of young women 299 00:18:50,172 --> 00:18:55,525 and that I was not representative of the quote "Bible Belt." 300 00:19:05,883 --> 00:19:08,843 There are two religions in the State of Texas. 301 00:19:08,973 --> 00:19:13,108 There is Christianity and football. 302 00:19:13,239 --> 00:19:15,284 At times, the football has been more 303 00:19:15,415 --> 00:19:17,547 dominant than Christianity in this State. 304 00:19:18,940 --> 00:19:22,073 The pastors were definitely into football and they knew. 305 00:19:22,204 --> 00:19:24,467 They would come and say: "Okay, we've got every... 306 00:19:24,598 --> 00:19:26,643 Go home and cheer for the Cowboys." 307 00:19:26,774 --> 00:19:30,865 I was raised from a very small child in the Pentecostal Faith. 308 00:19:30,995 --> 00:19:34,173 It was a very emotional faith. 309 00:19:34,303 --> 00:19:36,175 There were people who spoke in tongues. 310 00:19:36,305 --> 00:19:39,613 There were people who danced in the aisles 311 00:19:39,743 --> 00:19:43,094 in the spirit, and my dad was the preacher. 312 00:19:43,225 --> 00:19:45,575 I grew up a Baptist so my dad 313 00:19:45,706 --> 00:19:48,448 didn't let me date until I was 20 years of age. 314 00:19:48,578 --> 00:19:52,060 He was very, very strict and actually didn't speak 315 00:19:52,191 --> 00:19:55,411 to me for three years after the calendar came out. 316 00:19:56,543 --> 00:19:58,197 I went home to get a teaching job 317 00:19:58,327 --> 00:20:01,243 after I quit cheerleading and 318 00:20:01,374 --> 00:20:04,725 they wouldn't hire me because they said I was not ready for Collinsville. 319 00:20:04,855 --> 00:20:07,423 What they meant to say was that because I had 320 00:20:07,554 --> 00:20:09,469 been a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader and my image 321 00:20:09,599 --> 00:20:12,602 have been tarnished doing that, that I shouldn't 322 00:20:12,733 --> 00:20:14,561 be a teacher of any of their children. 323 00:20:14,691 --> 00:20:19,043 One nation under God indivisible... 324 00:20:19,174 --> 00:20:21,220 Probably one of the biggest dichotomies is the 325 00:20:21,350 --> 00:20:25,789 Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders came out in 1972, the new ones. 326 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,617 And then, like, what was it, a year later? 327 00:20:28,749 --> 00:20:31,273 We have this amazing Supreme Court decision 328 00:20:31,404 --> 00:20:33,754 that we're still fighting about today. 329 00:20:33,884 --> 00:20:37,061 There is a tremendous irony that Roe V. Wade 330 00:20:37,192 --> 00:20:39,499 happened in the State of Texas 331 00:20:39,629 --> 00:20:41,675 and in the City of Dallas and I think there is an 332 00:20:41,805 --> 00:20:45,331 even greater irony that it actually succeeded. 333 00:20:45,461 --> 00:20:50,597 Good evening. In a landmark ruling, the Supreme Court today legalized abortions. 334 00:20:50,727 --> 00:20:53,164 The majority in cases from Texas and Georgia 335 00:20:53,295 --> 00:20:55,166 said that the decision to end a pregnancy 336 00:20:55,297 --> 00:20:57,691 during the first three months belongs to the 337 00:20:57,821 --> 00:20:59,997 woman and her doctor, not the government. 338 00:21:02,217 --> 00:21:05,568 The sexual revolution was in full swing by 339 00:21:05,699 --> 00:21:09,137 the mid-70s and we became a little more independent. 340 00:21:09,268 --> 00:21:13,315 Things got kind of fun and wild and funky and people say now: 341 00:21:13,446 --> 00:21:15,274 "If you remember the '70s, you weren't there." 342 00:21:16,753 --> 00:21:18,538 Free love had gone mainstream. 343 00:21:18,668 --> 00:21:20,627 Husbands and wives were having key parties, there 344 00:21:20,757 --> 00:21:24,152 were orgies, aids had not appeared yet. 345 00:21:24,283 --> 00:21:25,719 Dallas was pretty wild back then. 346 00:21:25,849 --> 00:21:28,548 There was a place downtown at a club where people 347 00:21:28,678 --> 00:21:31,202 were going and partying till all hours of the night 348 00:21:31,333 --> 00:21:32,900 and drugs were being used. 349 00:21:33,030 --> 00:21:35,424 You could see some of the cheerleaders 350 00:21:35,555 --> 00:21:38,514 out with some of the players at some clubs. 351 00:21:38,645 --> 00:21:41,387 Some of the players, married. 352 00:21:41,517 --> 00:21:44,433 Those guys are running rampant. I mean, they're coke heads. 353 00:21:44,564 --> 00:21:47,480 They're weed heads. They're pill poppers, drunks. 354 00:21:47,610 --> 00:21:52,746 There were a lot of things going on that I was not supposed to write about. 355 00:21:52,876 --> 00:21:55,749 They needed direction. They needed discipline. 356 00:21:55,879 --> 00:21:59,622 They needed to understand the part they were 357 00:21:59,753 --> 00:22:04,061 gonna play in this enormous production. 358 00:22:06,020 --> 00:22:08,892 And I knew that it was my leadership that was 359 00:22:09,023 --> 00:22:11,808 gonna make or break it, because that was it. 360 00:22:11,939 --> 00:22:15,899 Suzanne told us on the very first day we got there: 361 00:22:16,030 --> 00:22:20,034 "I can be your best friend or I can be your worst enemy." 362 00:22:20,164 --> 00:22:23,690 I almost felt at some times, at some points, 363 00:22:23,820 --> 00:22:27,781 that there was a military-like approach to what she did. 364 00:22:27,911 --> 00:22:33,308 We went to the club in our uniform and, uh, it did not go over well at all. 365 00:22:33,439 --> 00:22:38,574 No. That's when Suzanne started with the rules and regulations. 366 00:22:38,705 --> 00:22:39,619 Oh, gosh. 367 00:22:40,489 --> 00:22:41,751 We had lots of rules. 368 00:22:41,882 --> 00:22:43,057 Oh, my God. 369 00:22:43,187 --> 00:22:45,494 Do I remember the rules? 370 00:22:45,625 --> 00:22:48,497 Suzanne had this massive rule book. It was typed out. 371 00:22:48,628 --> 00:22:51,326 It was in a blue binder and you had to memorize it. 372 00:22:51,457 --> 00:22:54,503 The things that we were forbidden to do. 373 00:22:54,634 --> 00:22:56,897 We could not talk to a Dallas Cowboy football player. 374 00:22:57,027 --> 00:22:58,507 We knew we couldn't date them. 375 00:22:58,638 --> 00:23:00,596 We were not allowed to talk to them. 376 00:23:00,727 --> 00:23:02,816 One night, I am at the bar trying to get the bartender's 377 00:23:02,946 --> 00:23:06,341 Attention and I heard this voice that said: "Hey, little one. 378 00:23:06,472 --> 00:23:11,781 Do you need a drink?" Looking down at me was Ed "Too Tall" Jones. 379 00:23:11,912 --> 00:23:14,262 I was like: "I'm not allowed to talk to you." 380 00:23:14,393 --> 00:23:15,959 You don't have too much to drink. 381 00:23:16,090 --> 00:23:19,310 You don't wear your cheerleader uniform out and about. 382 00:23:19,441 --> 00:23:20,399 The uniform made you. 383 00:23:20,529 --> 00:23:21,878 You didn't make the uniform. 384 00:23:22,009 --> 00:23:24,359 You became an overnight celebrity, 385 00:23:24,490 --> 00:23:26,535 so you had an image to live up to. 386 00:23:26,666 --> 00:23:29,843 If you go into a bar, you maybe have a little too 387 00:23:29,973 --> 00:23:33,368 much to drink and you get up on the bar and you're dancing. 388 00:23:33,499 --> 00:23:36,371 You have to understand that they don't see you. 389 00:23:37,459 --> 00:23:39,287 "She's a Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader. 390 00:23:39,418 --> 00:23:41,158 I guess they're all like that." 391 00:23:41,289 --> 00:23:42,986 We weren't allowed to swear. 392 00:23:43,117 --> 00:23:45,467 We weren't allowed to wear jeans, blue jeans in public. 393 00:23:45,598 --> 00:23:48,905 You could never go out in hair rollers or smoke cigarettes. 394 00:23:49,036 --> 00:23:51,995 You never, ever, ever chew gum, ever. 395 00:23:52,126 --> 00:23:53,823 If she caught you chewing gum in a Tom Thumb 396 00:23:53,954 --> 00:23:56,173 grocery store, you could be put on probation. 397 00:23:56,304 --> 00:23:59,742 They felt I knew everything, I knew 398 00:23:59,873 --> 00:24:03,616 everything they did 24 hours a day which I didn't. 399 00:24:03,746 --> 00:24:08,838 I just made them believe I did, so that they'd watch their own behavior. 400 00:24:08,969 --> 00:24:11,841 We will look for her some time and she'll 401 00:24:11,972 --> 00:24:15,366 be in one spot and you turn around, she's gone. 402 00:24:15,497 --> 00:24:16,977 Suzanne had spies. 403 00:24:17,107 --> 00:24:18,544 Some young girl that looked like one of us, 404 00:24:18,674 --> 00:24:20,371 You know, patting their face 405 00:24:20,502 --> 00:24:22,765 and fixing their makeup and listening to every word we said. 406 00:24:22,896 --> 00:24:24,680 Every time there was a party, every time 407 00:24:24,811 --> 00:24:26,856 somebody thought: "Oh, I'm gonna date somebody 408 00:24:26,987 --> 00:24:29,032 and I'm gonna get away with it. "Okay, good 409 00:24:29,163 --> 00:24:31,557 luck with that." It didn't work out for you. 410 00:24:31,687 --> 00:24:33,297 They took some photographs of me 411 00:24:33,428 --> 00:24:35,822 with that Miller Lite cup in my hand. 412 00:24:35,952 --> 00:24:39,303 And Suzanne called me into her office and she said: "Look at these pictures." 413 00:24:39,434 --> 00:24:42,089 She told me and she said: "You may not make it back next year." 414 00:24:42,219 --> 00:24:46,485 Fear had a lot to do with my direction, I think. 415 00:24:46,615 --> 00:24:49,531 If it's a minor infraction, you get a warning, but if it's 416 00:24:49,662 --> 00:24:51,881 something that's really obvious that 417 00:24:52,012 --> 00:24:54,231 you went outside the line, you're out. 418 00:24:55,102 --> 00:24:56,451 That's it. 419 00:24:56,582 --> 00:24:57,670 You don't come back. 420 00:24:59,236 --> 00:25:02,109 Wow. Just don't cut that uniform. 421 00:25:02,239 --> 00:25:04,633 That uniform has been through tougher times than this. 422 00:25:07,810 --> 00:25:09,682 Vintage 1976. 423 00:25:11,248 --> 00:25:13,381 The girls, when they first put on the uniform, 424 00:25:13,512 --> 00:25:15,905 and they'd just be shaking almost. 425 00:25:16,036 --> 00:25:19,300 I can hear someone's: "Suzanne, are you looking at me? 426 00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:24,479 I have the uniform on. "Suzanne, do you see me? I have it on. 427 00:25:24,610 --> 00:25:29,005 I did it." It was an element of: 428 00:25:29,136 --> 00:25:31,660 "My God, this is actually happening. 429 00:25:31,791 --> 00:25:35,229 It's happening and it's happening to me." 430 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,144 I'll tell you a secret. I still have one of mine. 431 00:25:37,274 --> 00:25:41,278 And I'm the only one that has their uniform. 432 00:25:41,409 --> 00:25:43,411 Not only do I have one, I have two. 433 00:25:43,542 --> 00:25:44,847 How many had two? 434 00:25:44,978 --> 00:25:46,762 I had five uniforms when I retired. 435 00:25:46,893 --> 00:25:48,764 I was there for four years and I had 436 00:25:48,895 --> 00:25:50,810 five different uniforms when I retired. 437 00:25:50,940 --> 00:25:54,465 And I turned in three, and Suzanne said: "Presley, I know 438 00:25:54,596 --> 00:25:57,120 you have one more." And I said: "Aww, man, you caught me." 439 00:25:57,251 --> 00:26:01,168 The day I had to turn it in, which I did, 440 00:26:01,298 --> 00:26:03,344 thank you very much to those of you that kept yours. 441 00:26:03,474 --> 00:26:05,781 I didn't know I could do that and get away with it. 442 00:26:05,912 --> 00:26:11,265 This is the first cheerleader uniform ever cut. 443 00:26:11,395 --> 00:26:14,355 It's one of the original and you could see that 444 00:26:14,485 --> 00:26:17,706 this is a knot that Suzanne used to personally, 445 00:26:17,837 --> 00:26:20,970 personally tie that knot right there so everything 446 00:26:21,101 --> 00:26:24,060 would stay where it's supposed to be in place. 447 00:26:24,191 --> 00:26:25,845 She was meticulous. 448 00:26:25,975 --> 00:26:28,064 You never saw her really resting. 449 00:26:28,195 --> 00:26:30,110 You never saw her stopping or sleeping. 450 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,156 She would probably sleep for two or four hours 451 00:26:33,287 --> 00:26:35,985 and she'd get right back up and start again. 452 00:26:36,116 --> 00:26:40,250 We had to control that classy image so that 453 00:26:41,687 --> 00:26:46,605 it didn't take a life of its own in just a sexy way. 454 00:26:46,735 --> 00:26:51,653 So, I put my foot down in terms of how they would be presented. 455 00:26:52,741 --> 00:26:55,396 I walked off of a set of Love Boat 456 00:26:55,526 --> 00:26:57,354 because the camera was on 457 00:26:57,485 --> 00:27:00,749 the ground looking up at the girls, and I just went: "Whoa." 458 00:27:02,621 --> 00:27:05,885 One of the strict rules was the camera was not to be shooting 459 00:27:06,015 --> 00:27:10,106 up at the girls, especially when they were in a kick line. 460 00:27:10,237 --> 00:27:14,023 This was the '70s and Suzanne was a woman and it was Hollywood. 461 00:27:14,154 --> 00:27:18,027 So, everything was agreed upon and then they did what they wanted, right? 462 00:27:18,158 --> 00:27:20,900 So Suzanne didn't even say anything. She was done talking. 463 00:27:21,030 --> 00:27:23,467 She walked over and she kicked the camera in the pool. 464 00:27:23,598 --> 00:27:27,907 And I took the girls and we left, and the producers come to me 465 00:27:28,037 --> 00:27:31,606 And they say: "What's the deal?" And I said: "You know what the deal is. 466 00:27:31,737 --> 00:27:36,829 We signed. This is what was said we would do and we would not do." 467 00:27:36,959 --> 00:27:42,008 And they presented the girls with a lot of roses and a lot of apologies. 468 00:27:43,879 --> 00:27:47,143 And the next day, new cameras. 469 00:27:47,274 --> 00:27:48,536 They were up. 470 00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:49,929 We're good to go. 471 00:27:51,365 --> 00:27:53,976 Hey, did you see that? Did you? She winked at me. 472 00:27:54,107 --> 00:27:55,238 Yeah. 473 00:27:56,370 --> 00:27:59,460 It was going to be our way or the highway. 474 00:28:04,204 --> 00:28:07,207 Have you noticed how often you're surrounded by glass these days? 475 00:28:07,337 --> 00:28:10,036 You're living in the golden age of girl watching. 476 00:28:13,692 --> 00:28:15,781 In the 1970s, sex and 477 00:28:15,911 --> 00:28:18,827 sex appeal was used to sell everything. 478 00:28:18,958 --> 00:28:21,830 These companies are selling the idea 479 00:28:21,961 --> 00:28:24,920 that women need to look this way 480 00:28:25,051 --> 00:28:28,619 and if you buy this product, you will look like this 481 00:28:28,750 --> 00:28:31,797 and it's absolutely impossible. 482 00:28:31,927 --> 00:28:33,929 If you look as broad as this 483 00:28:34,060 --> 00:28:38,325 and you'd rather look as slim as this, try the Ayds reducing plan. 484 00:28:38,455 --> 00:28:43,069 Delicious tasting Ayds candy contains vitamins and minerals, no drugs. 485 00:28:43,199 --> 00:28:45,724 This was the late '70s, the early '80s. 486 00:28:45,854 --> 00:28:46,812 Everyone was taking diet pills. 487 00:28:46,942 --> 00:28:48,727 Doctors were handing them out. 488 00:28:48,857 --> 00:28:50,119 It was a totally different time. 489 00:28:50,250 --> 00:28:52,339 We were not talking about anorexia. 490 00:28:52,469 --> 00:28:54,036 We're not talking about bulimia. 491 00:28:54,167 --> 00:28:56,735 We only wanted the pretty surface. 492 00:28:56,865 --> 00:29:00,739 We wanted to see the thin girls. 493 00:29:00,869 --> 00:29:03,829 It was very unhealthy, but nobody knew that. 494 00:29:03,959 --> 00:29:05,569 We were in the public eye. 495 00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:07,658 We had to learn... Look a certain way. 496 00:29:07,789 --> 00:29:09,356 The very first practice that we had, 497 00:29:09,486 --> 00:29:12,054 Texie says: "The camera will make you look 498 00:29:12,185 --> 00:29:18,844 heavier and it wouldn't hurt one of you in here to lose another seven pounds!" 499 00:29:18,974 --> 00:29:21,890 And I thought to myself: "Seven pounds?" 500 00:29:22,021 --> 00:29:24,675 Thank golly, I lost seven pounds. I did too. 501 00:29:24,806 --> 00:29:28,027 It was a solid year for sure. 502 00:29:30,029 --> 00:29:34,773 I would wrap my waist in Saran wrap and I would go and run five or six miles 503 00:29:34,903 --> 00:29:38,646 and my waist would be about 26 inches. So I always loved that. 504 00:29:38,777 --> 00:29:42,737 Some of us had... I call them trash pants and you would wear them 505 00:29:42,868 --> 00:29:48,830 to help sweat and Suzanne turned the heater on to help us sweat more. 506 00:29:48,961 --> 00:29:51,964 She had her scale on the floor and you weighed in. 507 00:29:52,094 --> 00:29:55,968 She kinda poke on our legs and she goes: "Well, I guess that's your bone there. 508 00:29:56,098 --> 00:29:57,926 You can't lose that." 509 00:29:58,057 --> 00:30:00,015 She had this list she would post on the wall. 510 00:30:00,146 --> 00:30:03,018 "If you had a tummy, or if you had... your calves were too big or... 511 00:30:03,149 --> 00:30:05,064 "As if you could shrink your calves, right? 512 00:30:05,194 --> 00:30:08,154 She put pictures of me that were taken 513 00:30:08,284 --> 00:30:11,113 at games where I would have a little jelly roll 514 00:30:11,244 --> 00:30:14,943 on the side and she would circle it with an arrow saying: 515 00:30:15,074 --> 00:30:18,425 "Lose this." That was demeaning. 516 00:30:18,555 --> 00:30:21,732 It was really cruel. It hurt. 517 00:30:21,863 --> 00:30:26,781 Maintaining the weight, was all determined by the uniform. 518 00:30:26,912 --> 00:30:28,261 That uniform is this big. 519 00:30:30,219 --> 00:30:34,354 The uniform doesn't hide anything, but it covers everything, 520 00:30:35,877 --> 00:30:38,445 but there's elements of the shorts that if you have 521 00:30:38,575 --> 00:30:41,927 anything hanging over there, it don't belong. 522 00:30:42,057 --> 00:30:44,407 Oh, my God, and they would starve themselves 523 00:30:44,538 --> 00:30:47,497 and the diuretics and stuff that they did. 524 00:30:48,890 --> 00:30:52,938 The weight regimen was extremely strict. 525 00:30:53,068 --> 00:30:55,984 Unfortunately, for me, it created anorexia. 526 00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:59,640 You put the girl in the shorts 527 00:30:59,770 --> 00:31:01,424 and you sit them in front of the mirror 528 00:31:01,555 --> 00:31:04,819 And you say: "Tell me what's wrong with this picture?" 529 00:31:05,776 --> 00:31:09,084 Have them critique themselves. 530 00:31:09,215 --> 00:31:12,522 "I get it, Suzanne. I'll have it off. I promise." 531 00:31:12,653 --> 00:31:14,394 The self-image never ends. 532 00:31:14,524 --> 00:31:17,701 I will always see the fat girl in the mirror. 533 00:31:17,832 --> 00:31:21,053 Prior to cheerleading, I never thought about my body image. 534 00:31:21,183 --> 00:31:24,273 I'd walk around in string bikinis, but after 535 00:31:24,404 --> 00:31:27,537 cheerleading, I had definitely had a weight problem. 536 00:31:29,626 --> 00:31:34,022 For some of us, it was a little too harsh especially for as young as we were 537 00:31:34,153 --> 00:31:37,330 and impressionable, because I did look up to her. 538 00:31:38,722 --> 00:31:40,811 I think from their perspective, 539 00:31:40,942 --> 00:31:43,075 I was too hard for them a lot. 540 00:31:45,512 --> 00:31:48,994 From my perspective, it was necessary. 541 00:31:52,475 --> 00:31:54,825 Did you ever see the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders? 542 00:31:54,956 --> 00:31:56,697 Who hasn't? They're everywhere. 543 00:31:58,351 --> 00:32:01,223 Did I detect a note of quasi-intellectual disapproval? 544 00:32:01,354 --> 00:32:02,746 Quasi-intellectual? 545 00:32:02,877 --> 00:32:04,923 They happen to be the hottest thing in the country. 546 00:32:06,054 --> 00:32:08,056 They've hit some kind of nerve. 547 00:32:08,187 --> 00:32:10,580 Women from coast to coast are looking up to them. 548 00:32:10,711 --> 00:32:15,977 I thought at the time: "This is a fun ride and it's not really gonna 549 00:32:16,108 --> 00:32:18,501 probably go anywhere," and then it kept 550 00:32:18,632 --> 00:32:21,156 going and it kept going and it kept going. 551 00:32:21,287 --> 00:32:22,505 They are more than cheerleaders. 552 00:32:22,636 --> 00:32:24,681 They are an institution unto themselves. 553 00:32:24,812 --> 00:32:27,423 They're bigger than the football team, which makes the 554 00:32:27,554 --> 00:32:31,645 double standard that they're living under all the crazier. 555 00:32:31,775 --> 00:32:34,561 Let me introduce, the one, the only, 556 00:32:34,691 --> 00:32:38,086 the original, Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders. 557 00:33:05,635 --> 00:33:09,204 We've got Bob Hope, Crystal Gale, Andy Gibb, Jimmy Walker, 558 00:33:09,335 --> 00:33:11,946 and the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders. 559 00:33:13,817 --> 00:33:15,776 Did you say Dallas Cheerleaders? 560 00:33:15,906 --> 00:33:18,822 I saw them on the Donnie Osmond Telethon. 561 00:33:18,953 --> 00:33:21,129 I saw them on the Country Music Awards. 562 00:33:21,260 --> 00:33:23,001 We're gonna go do a show with Oak Ridge Boys. 563 00:33:23,131 --> 00:33:24,785 We're gonna go do a show with Bob Hope. 564 00:33:24,915 --> 00:33:26,613 I told your friends 565 00:33:26,743 --> 00:33:28,267 about Faberge organic shampoo. 566 00:33:28,397 --> 00:33:32,053 And we told two friends and so on and so on. 567 00:33:32,184 --> 00:33:34,577 Make them feel like they're my daughters, the Cheerleaders. 568 00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:39,234 Then Esquire poses the question 569 00:33:39,365 --> 00:33:42,977 On their cover: "What is the best thing about the Dallas cowboys? 570 00:33:43,108 --> 00:33:46,937 The Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders Everybody knows that. 571 00:33:47,068 --> 00:33:52,247 They call the cheerleaders and they said: "Klif radio wants a cheerleader 572 00:33:52,378 --> 00:33:57,252 to do an ice skating event with an armadillo. I said: "Oh, that's me." 573 00:33:58,775 --> 00:34:00,821 We were constantly being asked to do appearances. 574 00:34:00,951 --> 00:34:02,953 We were in Florida one week, Tennessee the next. 575 00:34:03,084 --> 00:34:04,825 At the end of the month, we're doing a benefit in Garland 576 00:34:04,955 --> 00:34:06,566 for the little boy that was mauled by the lion 577 00:34:06,696 --> 00:34:08,263 to raise money for his family. 578 00:34:08,394 --> 00:34:12,006 I was in Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders Movie, 579 00:34:13,225 --> 00:34:16,793 The Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders Movie 2. 580 00:34:16,924 --> 00:34:20,188 The idea of made-for-TV movies was fairly new, 581 00:34:20,319 --> 00:34:24,540 but that was immediately the highest rated made-for-TV show ever. 582 00:34:24,671 --> 00:34:27,239 Boy, everyone is just dying to be a cheerleader In Dallas. 583 00:34:27,369 --> 00:34:29,328 Obviously, I was Bond girl. 584 00:34:29,458 --> 00:34:32,113 I would say at the time of the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders, 585 00:34:32,244 --> 00:34:33,767 they were bigger than Bond girls. 586 00:34:35,247 --> 00:34:39,468 In 1981, when I was approached to write this book, 587 00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:42,819 the cheerleaders were now something bigger than life. 588 00:34:42,950 --> 00:34:46,736 They pop up on magazine covers. They sell out the magazines. 589 00:34:46,867 --> 00:34:49,609 The cheerleaders' posters outselling the Farrah Fawcett posters 590 00:34:49,739 --> 00:34:52,046 and everybody had the Farrah Fawcett poster. 591 00:34:52,177 --> 00:34:53,874 It was beautifully done. 592 00:34:54,004 --> 00:34:57,878 It's the most beautiful poster ever, ever, ever made. 593 00:34:58,008 --> 00:35:01,186 The smoke, the girls, the looks, the sex. 594 00:35:02,665 --> 00:35:05,103 We got everybody's attention, obviously, 595 00:35:05,233 --> 00:35:07,453 but we had a backlash from it. 596 00:35:08,715 --> 00:35:14,024 The Playboy, former cheerleaders, did it 597 00:35:14,155 --> 00:35:17,419 exactly the same way we did, topless. 598 00:35:19,029 --> 00:35:20,814 What are you gonna do? 599 00:35:20,944 --> 00:35:22,642 We caught a lot of flak about 600 00:35:22,772 --> 00:35:24,774 "Oh my goodness, were you in Playboy?" No. 601 00:35:24,905 --> 00:35:28,691 No. No. 602 00:35:28,822 --> 00:35:30,650 These were not current girls. 603 00:35:30,780 --> 00:35:34,001 They were former cheerleaders who did the poster. 604 00:35:34,132 --> 00:35:37,657 I remember how devastating that was and I also remember thinking, 605 00:35:37,787 --> 00:35:40,529 "I wonder why they didn't want me," but I'm really glad they didn't because... 606 00:35:40,660 --> 00:35:42,923 They've been deleted from the database. 607 00:35:43,053 --> 00:35:44,881 I told them at the time: 608 00:35:45,012 --> 00:35:49,930 "I told you a long time ago, we become the choices we make." 609 00:35:54,587 --> 00:35:57,198 Okay, now, who's going to try a real high carry? Okay? 610 00:35:57,329 --> 00:35:59,374 Whoop, there we go. Whoa! 611 00:35:59,505 --> 00:36:03,465 I like very much Mary Calderone's comment in a recent Playboy interview 612 00:36:03,596 --> 00:36:05,206 in which she said, you know, she's less 613 00:36:05,337 --> 00:36:07,295 interested in women's rights than human rights. 614 00:36:07,426 --> 00:36:09,079 So, I think that is... 615 00:36:09,210 --> 00:36:10,646 I certainly would. The role that you have 616 00:36:10,777 --> 00:36:13,040 selected for women is degrading to women because 617 00:36:13,171 --> 00:36:16,478 you choose to see women as sex objects, not as full human beings. 618 00:36:16,609 --> 00:36:17,871 Well, obviously, you're degrading... Hold on now. 619 00:36:18,001 --> 00:36:20,395 The day that you... 620 00:36:20,526 --> 00:36:23,137 I haven't finished. The day that you are willing to come out here 621 00:36:23,268 --> 00:36:25,879 with a cottontail attached to your rear end... 622 00:36:29,970 --> 00:36:34,670 Well, you can't make a political point altogether politely. 623 00:36:34,801 --> 00:36:39,632 We were the angry women 624 00:36:39,762 --> 00:36:43,157 And the men were the product of their time. 625 00:36:43,288 --> 00:36:46,204 The idea that a woman wanted her own 626 00:36:46,334 --> 00:36:50,730 self-fulfillment, was really revolutionary. 627 00:36:50,860 --> 00:36:53,863 The women's liberation movement who really 628 00:36:53,994 --> 00:36:58,259 are, sort of, pressing for equality for women and so on. 629 00:36:58,390 --> 00:37:00,653 You don't agree with that? Equal with the man? 630 00:37:00,783 --> 00:37:01,958 Yeah. 631 00:37:02,089 --> 00:37:03,656 No, that's against nature. 632 00:37:03,786 --> 00:37:06,311 A woman you know, automatically looks up to a man. 633 00:37:06,441 --> 00:37:08,269 If I would say, right now if this theater 634 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,881 caught on fire and we saw no outlets, it would 635 00:37:12,012 --> 00:37:14,449 be nature for them to look to us to find a way out 636 00:37:14,580 --> 00:37:17,800 before we look to them to get us out. 637 00:37:17,931 --> 00:37:21,587 I mean, like, you never... I mean, I don't look like to see a woman 638 00:37:21,717 --> 00:37:23,937 walking down the street this tall and the husband that tall. 639 00:37:24,067 --> 00:37:26,853 Women by nature look up to men in every way. 640 00:37:29,116 --> 00:37:33,120 In the 1970s, with the feminist movement really going against the patriarchy 641 00:37:33,251 --> 00:37:37,342 and fighting for equal rights, at some point it turned, 642 00:37:37,472 --> 00:37:41,650 women started going after each other. 643 00:37:41,781 --> 00:37:44,436 Women did go after other women but, you know, 644 00:37:44,566 --> 00:37:47,352 that's the history of, of radical politics. 645 00:37:47,482 --> 00:37:52,400 The discourse has always been anti-this, anti-that, attacking this one, 646 00:37:52,531 --> 00:37:54,402 attacking this one to make your own point. 647 00:37:54,533 --> 00:37:55,969 And Somewhere along the way, 648 00:37:56,099 --> 00:37:58,624 the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders became a target. 649 00:38:02,628 --> 00:38:04,891 We went to Fresno State University. 650 00:38:05,021 --> 00:38:06,458 We performed at their halftime. 651 00:38:06,588 --> 00:38:08,373 We were there to help the women's athletic 652 00:38:08,503 --> 00:38:11,071 department build a new fieldhouse. 653 00:38:11,201 --> 00:38:14,509 When we got there, there were protests from all the women athletes. 654 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,468 They literally held up posters that read: 655 00:38:16,598 --> 00:38:18,948 "Hearts and minds, not bumps and grinds." And they were 656 00:38:19,079 --> 00:38:20,863 All yelling: "Dallas cowboys cheerleaders, go home." 657 00:38:20,994 --> 00:38:23,170 Huge signs out their dormitory window. 658 00:38:25,215 --> 00:38:27,827 We raised, I think, $200,000 for the department 659 00:38:27,957 --> 00:38:29,437 and yet they didn't want us there. 660 00:38:29,568 --> 00:38:32,092 A lot of women didn't like us back then. 661 00:38:32,222 --> 00:38:34,790 If you are a feminist, you probably do not think 662 00:38:34,921 --> 00:38:39,491 women should be doing this sort of thing, turning themselves into sex objects. 663 00:38:39,621 --> 00:38:42,189 If someone were to say to you, 664 00:38:43,103 --> 00:38:45,148 "Suzanne, you're selling sex here. 665 00:38:45,279 --> 00:38:47,760 You're really exploiting these women." 666 00:38:47,890 --> 00:38:51,938 It's ridiculous. I've had several women's lib groups tell me that sort of a thing 667 00:38:52,068 --> 00:38:54,244 and the girls answer it in the same way that I would. 668 00:38:54,375 --> 00:38:56,899 Uh, this is a voluntary thing. 669 00:38:57,030 --> 00:38:59,467 Many women, feminists, 670 00:38:59,598 --> 00:39:03,253 say that you... That you all are being exploited. 671 00:39:03,384 --> 00:39:06,256 They say you are a sex objects. 672 00:39:06,387 --> 00:39:08,171 How do you respond to that? Vanessa? 673 00:39:08,302 --> 00:39:10,696 When you're exploited, you're forced to do something 674 00:39:10,826 --> 00:39:14,700 that you really don't want to do and we all want to be out there. 675 00:39:14,830 --> 00:39:16,528 We had that option and we chose to be out there 676 00:39:16,658 --> 00:39:19,095 So we're not being exploited at all. 677 00:39:19,226 --> 00:39:21,533 The feminists really were looking 678 00:39:21,663 --> 00:39:24,274 at the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders as being 679 00:39:24,405 --> 00:39:28,583 anti-brain, anti-intelligent, pro-sex, 680 00:39:28,714 --> 00:39:32,065 pro-flaunting and pro-selling your goods. 681 00:39:34,067 --> 00:39:35,938 I remember getting a phone call from 682 00:39:36,069 --> 00:39:39,507 a reporter from one of the northeastern periodicals who 683 00:39:39,638 --> 00:39:43,729 couldn't understand why I didn't feel like I was just 684 00:39:43,859 --> 00:39:46,993 totally being thrown out to the wolves as a sex symbol. 685 00:39:47,123 --> 00:39:49,517 And I tried to explain to her it wasn't that way 686 00:39:49,648 --> 00:39:51,693 and she was going: "Oh, it can't be. 687 00:39:51,824 --> 00:39:55,001 You must be. You're out there exposing yourself." 688 00:39:55,131 --> 00:39:56,785 Remember year ago when the women 689 00:39:56,916 --> 00:39:58,657 from the National Organization for Women 690 00:39:58,787 --> 00:40:00,920 were picketing the tryouts for the cheerleaders, 691 00:40:01,050 --> 00:40:04,663 and they were upset that you were being exploited and used as sex objects 692 00:40:04,793 --> 00:40:07,753 and stuff like that? Let me hear some feedback about that argument. 693 00:40:07,883 --> 00:40:10,799 My feeling is: "How dare they?" I think that they 694 00:40:10,930 --> 00:40:14,455 are exhibiting the worst kind of chauvinism against women 695 00:40:14,586 --> 00:40:18,198 by implying that the girls who tried out to be cheerleaders were 696 00:40:18,328 --> 00:40:22,158 incapable of making a decision, that we were so stupid or so foolish. 697 00:40:25,074 --> 00:40:27,468 I remember getting mad sometimes: 698 00:40:27,599 --> 00:40:30,210 "Why do they just see me as a sex symbol? Why are they writing that? 699 00:40:30,340 --> 00:40:33,953 Or why are they saying that?" I thought: "Open your eyes girl, 700 00:40:34,083 --> 00:40:37,696 look at what you're portraying, now educate them. 701 00:40:37,826 --> 00:40:41,308 Let them know you're not just some dumb blonde." 702 00:40:41,439 --> 00:40:44,093 They said we were just nothing, but a bunch of Barbie dolls 703 00:40:44,224 --> 00:40:47,662 out there dancing around, bopping around and I guarantee you 704 00:40:47,793 --> 00:40:50,448 there're no Barbie dolls in that group. 705 00:40:50,578 --> 00:40:54,887 You had to either work, be married or be in school, 706 00:40:55,017 --> 00:40:58,760 therefore you're not consumed with just being a cheerleader. 707 00:41:00,806 --> 00:41:05,898 If they said we were just sex objects, Suzanne could shoot that down so fast. 708 00:41:06,028 --> 00:41:10,946 I think Suzanne Mitchell was a feminist and I would 709 00:41:11,077 --> 00:41:15,560 argue with anyone who said that she was exploiting women. 710 00:41:15,690 --> 00:41:19,302 She was working on her own, she was paying her mortgage, 711 00:41:19,433 --> 00:41:21,043 she was taking care of herself. 712 00:41:21,174 --> 00:41:23,306 I mean how much more of a feminist can that be? You know. 713 00:41:23,437 --> 00:41:25,700 I didn't feel like I was part of 714 00:41:25,831 --> 00:41:29,225 a movement even though I was really the only 715 00:41:30,357 --> 00:41:34,492 executive female in the cowboy organization, 716 00:41:34,622 --> 00:41:37,059 but I didn't look at it as feminism. 717 00:41:38,278 --> 00:41:41,063 I looked at it as though obviously I was 718 00:41:41,194 --> 00:41:43,849 the best person at that moment for the job. 719 00:41:46,678 --> 00:41:51,944 The culture at the time was entirely confusing and conflicting. 720 00:41:52,074 --> 00:41:57,166 We had these really strong powerful women in pop culture. 721 00:41:57,297 --> 00:42:01,170 The Bionic Woman, Wonder Woman, Princess Lea. 722 00:42:02,302 --> 00:42:05,566 By the 1970s the ideas of feminism had 723 00:42:05,697 --> 00:42:09,222 certainly had its effect on mainstream television. 724 00:42:09,352 --> 00:42:11,441 And then you've got these icons telling you 725 00:42:11,572 --> 00:42:15,271 that you can be the CEO and be powerful. 726 00:42:15,402 --> 00:42:16,969 They aren't privilege demands at all, 727 00:42:17,099 --> 00:42:19,711 we just want what men have had all these years. 728 00:42:19,841 --> 00:42:22,975 You can be somebody's wife, you can be somebody's mother, you can be somebody's lover, 729 00:42:23,105 --> 00:42:25,978 you can be somebody's anything, but you can't be somebody. 730 00:42:26,108 --> 00:42:28,067 And then at the other end, there was cosmopolitan. 731 00:42:28,197 --> 00:42:30,243 How to catch a man, or what to do with him when you catch him. 732 00:42:30,373 --> 00:42:33,899 The classic was called, Sex and the Single Girl. 733 00:42:34,029 --> 00:42:37,250 She now of course is editor of Cosmopolitan and here is... 734 00:42:37,380 --> 00:42:39,034 Helen Gurley Brown. 735 00:42:39,165 --> 00:42:40,601 Wear beautiful sexy clothes 736 00:42:40,732 --> 00:42:42,298 and have those candle light dinners. 737 00:42:42,429 --> 00:42:44,474 And try to go on a trip with this man. 738 00:42:44,605 --> 00:42:47,477 You have to take the initiative to make some of that happen. 739 00:42:47,608 --> 00:42:51,743 I came to Dallas from the Colombia school of journalism, 740 00:42:51,873 --> 00:42:56,008 and when I moved to Texas, I realized that there was a lot of more male 741 00:42:56,138 --> 00:42:59,838 pleasing going on than I had been raised to do. 742 00:42:59,968 --> 00:43:03,189 Women here took great pride in their appearance. 743 00:43:03,319 --> 00:43:05,670 They worried about their figures, they worried about 744 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,281 their face, they worried about plastic surgery. 745 00:43:08,411 --> 00:43:12,502 And I'll never forget one of the girls' mothers telling me: 746 00:43:12,633 --> 00:43:16,158 "Honey, I get up at five in the morning and put my makeup on 747 00:43:16,289 --> 00:43:19,771 because I really don't want my husband to see me without makeup." 748 00:43:19,901 --> 00:43:23,688 But as I got into the story and got to know each one of these girls 749 00:43:23,818 --> 00:43:25,951 and got to see how much they wanted this 750 00:43:26,081 --> 00:43:28,693 and why they wanted this and the backgrounds they came from, 751 00:43:28,823 --> 00:43:33,567 I almost thought that the feminists at the time were being 752 00:43:33,698 --> 00:43:38,485 kind of armchair snobs, intellectual snobs and judgmental. 753 00:43:38,616 --> 00:43:42,315 I know that I had friends who, kind of, were sneering at me 754 00:43:42,445 --> 00:43:44,273 for even writing the book like: 755 00:43:44,404 --> 00:43:48,538 "Why are you doing that? Oh, my God what's wrong with you? 756 00:43:48,669 --> 00:43:51,063 You've gone to Texas, you've gone crazy." 757 00:43:51,193 --> 00:43:54,980 I can understand why the feminist had a problem with 758 00:43:55,110 --> 00:43:59,201 the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders that I think it was misguided. 759 00:44:00,550 --> 00:44:03,641 We were making a choice as young women to do 760 00:44:03,771 --> 00:44:07,122 what we wanted to do and for the feminist 761 00:44:07,253 --> 00:44:10,560 movement to tell us we can't do that, 762 00:44:10,691 --> 00:44:14,347 is contradictory to their belief system. 763 00:44:16,741 --> 00:44:18,220 We were the modern women. 764 00:44:18,351 --> 00:44:20,614 We were doing exactly what we wanted to do. 765 00:44:20,745 --> 00:44:24,226 We were mothers, we were doctors, nurses, receptionists, sales people. 766 00:44:24,357 --> 00:44:26,359 We had our day job, we had our family 767 00:44:26,489 --> 00:44:28,491 and then we danced because we love to dance. 768 00:44:30,972 --> 00:44:33,235 It wasn't just on Sundays, you weren't just 769 00:44:33,366 --> 00:44:35,716 on the field as a Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader. 770 00:44:35,847 --> 00:44:37,413 It was life changing. 771 00:44:37,544 --> 00:44:39,154 It was 24/7. 772 00:44:39,285 --> 00:44:40,939 I would get up in the morning, go to work 773 00:44:41,069 --> 00:44:44,812 at my office job at eight o'clock, get off at five. 774 00:44:44,943 --> 00:44:47,728 And then I'd go across town to our old studio, 775 00:44:47,859 --> 00:44:50,122 our old dance studio and I would drink a diet Coke 776 00:44:50,252 --> 00:44:53,038 and eat an apple in the car in traffic while changing 777 00:44:53,168 --> 00:44:56,171 clothes in my car on the way to the rehearsal studio. 778 00:44:56,302 --> 00:45:00,306 Sherry Worthington, she drove all the way from Oklahoma. 779 00:45:00,436 --> 00:45:02,874 And then I had things to do for work the next day. 780 00:45:03,004 --> 00:45:05,746 Go to bed, get back up in like four hours. 781 00:45:05,877 --> 00:45:07,443 Get ready to go to work 782 00:45:07,574 --> 00:45:09,489 And do it all again. 783 00:45:09,619 --> 00:45:11,404 Even though it said practice is over at ten o'clock, 784 00:45:11,534 --> 00:45:13,972 that doesn't mean practice is over at 10 o'clock. 785 00:45:14,102 --> 00:45:16,626 It means practice is over when she's done 786 00:45:16,757 --> 00:45:18,454 and feels like everybody's done a good job. 787 00:45:18,585 --> 00:45:19,934 Oh, Cindy. Oh. 788 00:45:20,065 --> 00:45:22,067 How hard did we train? I don't know. 789 00:45:22,197 --> 00:45:23,590 I didn't give them water. 790 00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:25,723 I turned off the air conditioning. 791 00:45:27,115 --> 00:45:30,553 You had to do what you had to do to prepare them 792 00:45:30,684 --> 00:45:32,686 and that first game was tough. 793 00:45:32,817 --> 00:45:36,168 It was a 110 on the field, it was in August. 794 00:45:36,298 --> 00:45:40,302 I'll never forget unbuttoning the sleeve of my blue blouse 795 00:45:40,433 --> 00:45:43,741 and my arm was completely white with salt. 796 00:45:43,871 --> 00:45:46,047 All the hours we did volunteer work. 797 00:45:46,178 --> 00:45:49,311 When we went to visit the children's homes and the VA hospitals, 798 00:45:49,442 --> 00:45:52,358 We did those on weekends where the games were out of town. 799 00:45:52,488 --> 00:45:54,055 We were still working. 800 00:45:54,186 --> 00:45:59,365 And they were doing all of this for $15 a game. 801 00:45:59,495 --> 00:46:01,454 14-12 after taxes. 802 00:46:01,584 --> 00:46:03,848 That did not include practicing 803 00:46:03,978 --> 00:46:06,894 five nights a week for four to five hours. 804 00:46:07,025 --> 00:46:09,418 That didn't really even cover our gas money. 805 00:46:09,549 --> 00:46:13,727 That's why we rode together to, to practices. 806 00:46:13,858 --> 00:46:16,512 Didn't even pay for the pantyhose. 807 00:46:16,643 --> 00:46:21,822 As it turns out we became million dollar showgirls, who made 15$ a game. 808 00:46:21,953 --> 00:46:23,650 I do think that the Cowboys were 809 00:46:23,781 --> 00:46:25,783 exploiting these girls financially. 810 00:46:25,913 --> 00:46:28,829 Not their bodies, I mean, they would have done it anyhow. 811 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,527 They probably would have been models or something, but why not 812 00:46:31,658 --> 00:46:34,704 pay them more? Why not give them a little bit more of the cut? 813 00:46:34,835 --> 00:46:37,098 Of course, who doesn't wanna make money? We were broke. 814 00:46:37,229 --> 00:46:39,144 We were living paycheck to paycheck. 815 00:46:39,274 --> 00:46:44,802 But I was a 20-year old girl who was experiencing fame. 816 00:46:44,932 --> 00:46:49,110 And I was from a small town, and my parents were proud of me. 817 00:46:50,503 --> 00:46:54,376 I was somebody and that really is all that mattered. 818 00:46:55,987 --> 00:46:59,686 But it is not always awesome to be in the spotlight. 819 00:47:02,297 --> 00:47:04,604 You can work, and work and work, and build your reputation, 820 00:47:04,734 --> 00:47:08,913 and build your name and it can be brought down so fast. 821 00:47:10,349 --> 00:47:11,959 These are America's sweethearts. 822 00:47:12,090 --> 00:47:14,396 They're bigger than the football team. 823 00:47:14,527 --> 00:47:17,269 Everybody's trying to get a piece of the cheerleaders, 824 00:47:17,399 --> 00:47:20,794 and all of sudden, here comes Debbie does Dallas. 825 00:47:20,925 --> 00:47:21,795 Debbie does Dallas. 826 00:47:21,926 --> 00:47:23,188 Debbie does Dallas. 827 00:47:23,318 --> 00:47:25,233 D and Debbie and Dallas it rhymed. 828 00:47:25,364 --> 00:47:28,149 It's like every time I'd turned around I had 829 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:33,241 to go after somebody who's trying to make a buck off these girls. 830 00:47:34,939 --> 00:47:38,246 This is at a time when porn all of a sudden just 831 00:47:38,377 --> 00:47:41,380 works its way in to pop your imagination through a film 832 00:47:41,510 --> 00:47:43,730 called Deep Throat, which all of a sudden it's supposedly 833 00:47:43,861 --> 00:47:47,342 safe and wholesome for couples to watch a film like this. 834 00:47:47,473 --> 00:47:49,344 The MovieDebbie does Dallas, 835 00:47:49,475 --> 00:47:51,390 supposedly traces the adventure of some high school 836 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,088 aged women who aspired to move to Texas 837 00:47:54,219 --> 00:47:56,395 and become Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders. 838 00:47:56,525 --> 00:48:00,921 Tex brought Tom Landry into his office and showed him part of the film, 839 00:48:01,052 --> 00:48:04,707 and Tom nearly fell down on the floor when he saw it. 840 00:48:04,838 --> 00:48:06,579 I watched the movie, it was stupid. 841 00:48:06,709 --> 00:48:09,364 But, uhm, I felt like I had to research it. 842 00:48:09,495 --> 00:48:11,018 There is no plot. 843 00:48:11,149 --> 00:48:14,282 Is there area for a plot to a pornography movie? 844 00:48:15,501 --> 00:48:17,720 But, see, they were using our uniform. 845 00:48:17,851 --> 00:48:19,722 Greenfield! 846 00:48:19,853 --> 00:48:21,246 Greenfield I'm here, dressed as you wanted me. 847 00:48:21,376 --> 00:48:23,639 Debbie, this is Mr. Greenfield. 848 00:48:23,770 --> 00:48:26,381 Please lock the doors and come up to the mezzanine level. 849 00:48:26,512 --> 00:48:27,861 Uh-huh. 850 00:48:29,167 --> 00:48:31,169 You know, the girls that, for goodness sake, 851 00:48:31,299 --> 00:48:34,520 were named Debbie on the squad, they had it tough. 852 00:48:34,650 --> 00:48:37,871 There were three Debbies on the squad that year, which I was one of them. 853 00:48:38,002 --> 00:48:41,222 And so we got lots of flak. 854 00:48:41,353 --> 00:48:43,703 Hey, Debbie does Dallas, Tammy does Tulsa. 855 00:48:43,833 --> 00:48:46,314 Shannon does San Antonio. 856 00:48:46,445 --> 00:48:50,405 It's not something you just let go lightly, and Suzanne went after it. 857 00:48:50,536 --> 00:48:52,364 With the vengeance. 858 00:48:52,494 --> 00:48:54,801 (Reporter The first showing of Debbie Does Dallas drew 859 00:48:54,932 --> 00:48:58,761 three members of the law firm representing the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders. 860 00:48:58,892 --> 00:49:02,852 It created quite a mess for the Cowboys. 861 00:49:03,984 --> 00:49:05,899 And I had had bodyguards and... 862 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,729 because we were dealing with the mafia. 863 00:49:12,950 --> 00:49:17,432 Suzanne was in New York for several weeks and she had death threats. 864 00:49:17,563 --> 00:49:20,000 At one point, somebody was tasting her food 865 00:49:20,131 --> 00:49:21,871 for fear of her being poisoned. 866 00:49:23,699 --> 00:49:27,573 Now that was Carmine Galante, his gang and it was his 867 00:49:29,183 --> 00:49:34,406 right-hand man Michael Zaffarano, who was in Federal Court with me 868 00:49:34,536 --> 00:49:38,105 and he jumped in the elevator, and I was there alone, and for some reason 869 00:49:38,236 --> 00:49:42,457 a bodyguard wasn't there and he pulled out a knife from his boot, 870 00:49:42,588 --> 00:49:47,680 and stuck it, not in my neck, but right like he was going to. 871 00:49:47,810 --> 00:49:49,725 And I hit his arm. 872 00:49:51,553 --> 00:49:55,209 He didn't drop the knife totally, he just let his hand 873 00:49:55,340 --> 00:49:58,386 go down, he started laughing and the door opened. 874 00:50:00,606 --> 00:50:02,216 But that was enough for me. 875 00:50:04,566 --> 00:50:09,615 She was formidable and could get very 876 00:50:09,745 --> 00:50:13,923 angry about things that she didn't think were fair. 877 00:50:14,054 --> 00:50:17,231 It had to be fair and it had to be right, 878 00:50:17,362 --> 00:50:20,713 but she's the one that got to define right. 879 00:50:22,323 --> 00:50:24,891 I'm sure she drove the lawyers crazy. 880 00:50:26,762 --> 00:50:29,417 It cost the Cowboys million dollars 881 00:50:29,548 --> 00:50:33,073 to prove to them that the girls on the squad 882 00:50:33,204 --> 00:50:36,468 named Debbie were not the Debbie Does Dallas in the movie, 883 00:50:38,339 --> 00:50:40,298 We had to protect what was ours. 884 00:50:48,784 --> 00:50:55,965 15 minutes of fame comes very quickly and can get very creepy very quick. 885 00:50:56,096 --> 00:50:57,924 You're constantly under the spotlight. 886 00:50:58,055 --> 00:51:02,668 You are in a fishbowl and you feel like your private life 887 00:51:02,798 --> 00:51:05,540 is taken away from you, and it's very hard to process. 888 00:51:05,671 --> 00:51:08,282 The girls were receiving a lot of fan mail, 889 00:51:08,413 --> 00:51:13,113 all of a sudden were feeling more like celebrities. 890 00:51:13,244 --> 00:51:15,072 After the games the girls would go to 891 00:51:15,202 --> 00:51:18,118 the wall and shake hands and do autographs. 892 00:51:18,249 --> 00:51:21,991 So, all of that became part of this: 893 00:51:22,122 --> 00:51:23,906 "I want to know these girls better." 894 00:51:25,647 --> 00:51:28,215 When I think of how people assumed 895 00:51:28,346 --> 00:51:33,525 that I wanted them in my face, or we wanted 896 00:51:33,655 --> 00:51:39,400 them chasing us, and that they were entitled to that, 897 00:51:39,531 --> 00:51:41,446 that's when it would get frightening. 898 00:51:41,576 --> 00:51:45,406 Well, I've had a problem, several problems... 899 00:51:45,537 --> 00:51:48,670 A lot of problems in my life with stalkers. 900 00:51:48,801 --> 00:51:50,977 Back then you could get your phone book 901 00:51:51,108 --> 00:51:53,719 and find out where somebody lived. 902 00:51:53,849 --> 00:51:57,505 This guy showed up at my house and he started banging on my door. 903 00:51:57,636 --> 00:52:00,378 So I went in the bedroom and I thought I'm just not going to 904 00:52:00,508 --> 00:52:03,468 answer the door and he'll go away, he never went away. 905 00:52:03,598 --> 00:52:05,296 One night, I turn off the lights, 906 00:52:05,426 --> 00:52:08,342 I get in bed and my phone rings. 907 00:52:08,473 --> 00:52:10,649 I said: "Hello", and this very deep husky 908 00:52:10,779 --> 00:52:14,653 Voice said: "Goodnight, Tammy," and hung up. 909 00:52:14,783 --> 00:52:19,179 He climbed up on my roof and started yelling into the chimney. 910 00:52:19,310 --> 00:52:21,747 "Carrie, this is Phillip, I want to meet you. 911 00:52:21,877 --> 00:52:23,531 I know we're a perfect match." 912 00:52:23,662 --> 00:52:25,664 Three nights in a row when I decided I'm 913 00:52:25,794 --> 00:52:29,233 done with this, I'm going to bed with the lights on. 914 00:52:30,538 --> 00:52:33,715 I went to bed with every light in my apartment on, 915 00:52:33,846 --> 00:52:37,980 Phone rang: "Goodnight Tami." I moved that weekend. 916 00:52:39,373 --> 00:52:40,548 We had a cheerleader named Michelin, 917 00:52:40,679 --> 00:52:42,637 she had long gorgeous blonde hair 918 00:52:42,768 --> 00:52:44,770 and somebody reached in with scissors 919 00:52:44,900 --> 00:52:46,685 trying to cut Michelin's hair off. 920 00:52:46,815 --> 00:52:48,991 Suzanne caught it at the last second and knocked 921 00:52:49,122 --> 00:52:50,254 the scissors out of the person's hand. 922 00:52:50,384 --> 00:52:52,386 I mean Suzanne was a super hero. 923 00:52:52,517 --> 00:52:55,955 We were constantly being bombarded with people trying to harm us, 924 00:52:56,085 --> 00:52:59,785 tarnish the name, tarnish the uniform, ruin our image. 925 00:52:59,915 --> 00:53:02,614 It's amazing that one woman could do what she did, she protected us. 926 00:53:05,138 --> 00:53:08,315 They were what I was here for. 927 00:53:11,188 --> 00:53:15,540 I never thought about marriage, 928 00:53:17,629 --> 00:53:19,196 I had a lot of children. 929 00:53:21,285 --> 00:53:27,987 And I felt so deeply about them that they became 930 00:53:30,424 --> 00:53:34,950 totally and completely why God had put me here. 931 00:53:35,081 --> 00:53:39,738 And I believed in it so strongly that it was easy for me 932 00:53:39,868 --> 00:53:43,655 to give every ounce of energy I had to it. 933 00:53:45,178 --> 00:53:48,486 Suzanne was always, always on guard for us. 934 00:53:48,616 --> 00:53:53,665 She would intercept letters that may have disturbing information in them. 935 00:53:53,795 --> 00:53:57,408 There was one guy, my gosh, he sent me cartoons 936 00:53:57,538 --> 00:54:02,891 and stuff that he drew up of me hanging the girls on the walls. 937 00:54:03,022 --> 00:54:06,155 I was dressed in black leather with whips 938 00:54:06,286 --> 00:54:10,377 in my hand, and I was whipping the girls. 939 00:54:12,161 --> 00:54:18,037 Well, I got the FBI involved with that, and they found him upstate Minnesota 940 00:54:18,167 --> 00:54:21,388 at an outpatient clinic living with his mother. 941 00:54:21,519 --> 00:54:24,173 And I think there was another instance to where 942 00:54:24,304 --> 00:54:27,525 we received a huge package of knives. 943 00:54:27,655 --> 00:54:29,527 Well, first I opened them up and I thought 944 00:54:29,657 --> 00:54:32,443 my husband sent me a big thing of new knives. 945 00:54:32,573 --> 00:54:35,533 And then I opened them up, and they're in a manila envelope, 946 00:54:35,663 --> 00:54:38,449 and they were wrapped in a Pittsburgh Steeler newspaper. 947 00:54:38,579 --> 00:54:42,322 And as I start reading it, it said: "Dear Billie, my goddess of love." 948 00:54:42,453 --> 00:54:46,892 I mean I shake just thinking about it, and it just went on from there. 949 00:54:47,022 --> 00:54:50,504 So I hired a private detective to watch her house. 950 00:54:51,766 --> 00:54:53,202 There's really nothing you 951 00:54:53,333 --> 00:54:54,813 can tell me about Suzanne Mitchell in terms 952 00:54:54,943 --> 00:54:56,858 of being this tough woman that's going to fix 953 00:54:56,989 --> 00:54:59,383 your problem. That's gonna surprise me. 954 00:54:59,513 --> 00:55:02,864 The women on her squad, that she looked at like they were her daughters. 955 00:55:02,995 --> 00:55:07,565 And if I was a guy dating one of Suzanne's cheerleaders, I'd be 956 00:55:07,695 --> 00:55:11,482 real careful about making a mistake with that young woman. 957 00:55:11,612 --> 00:55:14,485 When I became a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader I was married to someone else. 958 00:55:14,615 --> 00:55:18,793 He was 12 years older than me and he was a very successful Elvis Presley impersonator. 959 00:55:18,924 --> 00:55:20,578 The marriage was unraveling. 960 00:55:20,708 --> 00:55:23,276 He was basically having an affair with the yellow pages. 961 00:55:23,407 --> 00:55:26,192 I went to Suzanne Mitchell and told her that I needed to get a divorce. 962 00:55:27,585 --> 00:55:31,980 I was terrified to tell her, but she was fabulous. 963 00:55:32,111 --> 00:55:35,070 She not only was supportive, she said that the Cowboys would help me. 964 00:55:35,201 --> 00:55:38,465 And she helped me find a roommate with one of the girls within the squad. 965 00:55:40,075 --> 00:55:46,038 I had to do some bad stuff to her husband at the time. 966 00:55:47,474 --> 00:55:53,132 She came in with bruises once too often. 967 00:55:55,743 --> 00:55:58,442 I mean, it's nice when you have contacts. 968 00:55:59,486 --> 00:56:01,575 We can get them taken care of. 969 00:56:03,272 --> 00:56:06,841 I just figured out that I would make a phone call 970 00:56:06,972 --> 00:56:09,583 to some people that I knew, 971 00:56:09,714 --> 00:56:14,588 and we would be able to take him out in the desert 972 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,243 and tell him not to do that anymore. 973 00:56:23,292 --> 00:56:25,164 Suzanne Mitchell has been referred to by 974 00:56:25,294 --> 00:56:28,036 many people as the Iron Butterfly because she was. 975 00:56:28,167 --> 00:56:32,214 She could be ridiculously demanding, incredibly hard. 976 00:56:32,345 --> 00:56:36,001 And Yet, she had this compassion for her cheerleading 977 00:56:36,131 --> 00:56:38,830 group that would almost surprise some people. 978 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:43,095 She put her heart and soul in it, her heart and her soul. And she loved us. 979 00:56:45,010 --> 00:56:48,100 She loved us, and not just as a group, but she loved us individually. 980 00:56:48,230 --> 00:56:51,886 Suzanne had the knowledge to know what you needed. 981 00:56:52,017 --> 00:56:57,979 I was able to have empathy for what 982 00:56:58,110 --> 00:57:01,113 was going on inside of their heart and head. 983 00:57:04,595 --> 00:57:06,771 I was raped twice. 984 00:57:10,165 --> 00:57:14,692 I was 19 and 26. 985 00:57:17,346 --> 00:57:23,875 At the time, I didn't have anyone, which made me know 986 00:57:24,005 --> 00:57:29,881 all the more how much people needed someone they could trust. 987 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,626 Usually, they could never tell their family, 988 00:57:38,106 --> 00:57:40,500 but for some reason, they could always tell me. 989 00:57:42,197 --> 00:57:45,897 And I think mainly what they needed was... 990 00:57:48,073 --> 00:57:49,640 to cry, 991 00:57:51,337 --> 00:57:55,820 to talk about it, to relive it, and to understand they were 992 00:57:55,950 --> 00:57:59,606 still here, they were still whole, and they 993 00:57:59,737 --> 00:58:04,219 were in a safe place that would always protect them. 994 00:58:06,091 --> 00:58:10,225 It will never stop you, is what I always tried to tell the girls. 995 00:58:11,662 --> 00:58:14,360 It doesn't have anything to do with your growth, 996 00:58:14,491 --> 00:58:19,800 with your ability to become who you are supposed to become. 997 00:58:19,931 --> 00:58:22,890 We could all learn something from it. 998 00:58:23,021 --> 00:58:25,327 We're all here to teach. 999 00:58:34,598 --> 00:58:39,428 We got a call from the Pentagon, General John Wickham, 1000 00:58:40,647 --> 00:58:44,303 and he asked Tex: "We would like the girls to come 1001 00:58:44,433 --> 00:58:48,089 and entertain the troops over Christmas." Because they had, had 1002 00:58:48,220 --> 00:58:53,878 a lot of suicides in Korea during that period of time. 1003 00:58:54,008 --> 00:58:58,709 And Tex's immediate answer was: "That's playoff. No way. 1004 00:58:58,839 --> 00:59:03,670 We need the girls here." But the General insisted 1005 00:59:03,801 --> 00:59:05,977 and Tex finally called me into his office and said: 1006 00:59:06,107 --> 00:59:10,111 "Suzanne, what do you think?" And my immediate answer 1007 00:59:10,242 --> 00:59:13,550 From the bottom of my heart was: "You bet ya." 1008 00:59:37,356 --> 00:59:40,272 It was the Cheer Group Squad that would go on the USO tours. 1009 00:59:40,402 --> 00:59:44,406 They left their family for the whole holidays over Christmas. 1010 00:59:44,537 --> 00:59:46,583 One of the girls at the time had a baby. 1011 00:59:48,193 --> 00:59:50,151 When I selected the girls to go 1012 00:59:50,282 --> 00:59:54,591 on tour, I did not select the prettiest. 1013 00:59:54,721 --> 00:59:56,767 I didn't select the best dancer. 1014 00:59:58,812 --> 01:00:03,382 I selected the ones I knew would walk up in a handshake and hug a soldier. 1015 01:00:03,512 --> 01:00:05,863 Jeff. Jeff, where you from? 1016 01:00:07,081 --> 01:00:08,735 It's nice meeting you. 1017 01:00:10,824 --> 01:00:15,307 Sometimes, we couldn't get to where we needed to go, and I would push my 1018 01:00:15,437 --> 01:00:19,746 weight around and call a general in Korea and say I need a helicopter. 1019 01:00:21,443 --> 01:00:25,926 And they'd get me a helicopter and we'd go see four guys on a radar site. 1020 01:00:27,058 --> 01:00:30,539 Four guys that nobody knew were there. 1021 01:00:32,803 --> 01:00:36,720 And the girls made them feel like somebody cared. 1022 01:00:40,506 --> 01:00:43,988 We were dancing on the USS Iowa 1023 01:00:44,118 --> 01:00:46,207 and it was rocking left and right. 1024 01:00:46,338 --> 01:00:49,515 I was like: " Oh, I'm going to fall in." Mrs. Anna said: 1025 01:00:49,646 --> 01:00:52,387 "If you fall in, do you know how many guys are going to be in that water 1026 01:00:52,518 --> 01:00:54,215 before you can even hit the water? 1027 01:00:54,346 --> 01:00:56,000 She said that's the least that you... go out there and dance. 1028 01:00:56,130 --> 01:00:57,871 Don't worry about that." She's always giving. 1029 01:00:58,002 --> 01:00:59,656 I'm thinking about my life, she's thinking 1030 01:00:59,786 --> 01:01:01,919 we'll die giving the best performance. 1031 01:01:02,049 --> 01:01:04,922 She didn't say that, but that's basically what she said. 1032 01:01:05,052 --> 01:01:09,187 I have landed on 12 aircraft carriers by cable. 1033 01:01:09,317 --> 01:01:10,971 I have catapulted off. 1034 01:01:11,102 --> 01:01:14,583 I have been hoisted out of helicopters onto submarines. 1035 01:01:16,411 --> 01:01:20,546 It was really fun to be in the Sinai and be in those helicopters. 1036 01:01:21,373 --> 01:01:22,983 There weren't seats. 1037 01:01:23,114 --> 01:01:24,506 There was just things and straps 1038 01:01:24,637 --> 01:01:26,291 and we were all just strapped in. 1039 01:01:26,421 --> 01:01:30,295 Swerving like this through all of the canyons 1040 01:01:30,425 --> 01:01:31,600 that we had to go through. 1041 01:01:31,731 --> 01:01:32,906 It was just... 1042 01:01:34,386 --> 01:01:36,170 Girls were screaming. 1043 01:01:36,301 --> 01:01:37,694 I know it sounds silly to say 1044 01:01:37,824 --> 01:01:39,304 professional cheerleading is dangerous, 1045 01:01:39,434 --> 01:01:41,610 but there were a lot of times we're in harm's way. 1046 01:01:41,741 --> 01:01:44,048 In Beirut, Lebanon we were shot at. 1047 01:01:46,441 --> 01:01:49,749 Diana was with me in my Jeep and we passed 1048 01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:55,059 the PLO - Israeli checkpoint and gunfire started going off 1049 01:01:55,189 --> 01:01:58,149 everywhere and my marine that was driving my jeep 1050 01:01:58,279 --> 01:02:01,892 hit me in back of the head and knocked me against the dash. 1051 01:02:02,806 --> 01:02:03,894 And I have a... 1052 01:02:05,243 --> 01:02:08,246 a dip in my head where that bullet... 1053 01:02:08,376 --> 01:02:11,945 If he had not done what he did, the bullet 1054 01:02:12,076 --> 01:02:14,078 would've gone right between my eyes. 1055 01:02:18,604 --> 01:02:20,911 I can't explain... 1056 01:02:23,087 --> 01:02:26,394 at that point all the girls jumped out of 1057 01:02:26,525 --> 01:02:30,747 their jeep, crawled on their bellies... 1058 01:02:32,313 --> 01:02:33,706 to get to me. 1059 01:02:36,317 --> 01:02:39,668 And I'm sure she got to her bed that night and I'm sure 1060 01:02:39,799 --> 01:02:43,020 it hit her what had happened, but she didn't say the show was canceled. 1061 01:02:43,150 --> 01:02:44,630 She didn't say we're going back to the States. 1062 01:02:46,153 --> 01:02:48,155 We got up the next day and went back and performed again. 1063 01:02:48,286 --> 01:02:50,897 And she probably did 10 more tours after that. 1064 01:02:53,204 --> 01:02:57,121 My name is Suzanne Mitchell and I'm the director of the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders. 1065 01:02:57,251 --> 01:03:00,689 This is my 12th year with the organization. 1066 01:03:00,820 --> 01:03:04,128 It's my 16th BOD USO tour. 1067 01:03:04,258 --> 01:03:06,521 This is really the only way that we have to save 1068 01:03:06,652 --> 01:03:13,964 our country, to be able to say... 1069 01:03:18,098 --> 01:03:22,711 Are you all listening to me? 1070 01:03:26,367 --> 01:03:29,501 Y'all don't want to be serious, but I'm going to be serious for a minute. 1071 01:03:29,631 --> 01:03:31,851 You all listen to me. 1072 01:03:31,982 --> 01:03:34,158 There is a lot of people that don't know 1073 01:03:34,288 --> 01:03:39,816 that you're even here and that difficult position that all of you are in 1074 01:03:39,946 --> 01:03:41,513 and they say that we're making a sacrifice 1075 01:03:41,643 --> 01:03:44,690 by being here, and we're not. We are not. 1076 01:03:44,821 --> 01:03:47,606 This is such a joy for us to be able to maybe bring a smile 1077 01:03:47,736 --> 01:03:51,566 and to help you all through the next few weeks or the few months. 1078 01:03:51,697 --> 01:03:54,221 All we're doing is to let you know we know you're here 1079 01:03:54,352 --> 01:03:57,094 and that we love you and appreciate so much. 1080 01:03:57,224 --> 01:03:59,400 And most of all that we know that everything we 1081 01:03:59,531 --> 01:04:02,926 have back home, we only have because of you. 1082 01:04:11,891 --> 01:04:15,764 Suzanne was proud of being 1083 01:04:15,895 --> 01:04:19,029 a mom to a whole lot of soldiers. 1084 01:04:20,465 --> 01:04:23,294 And they were just additional family. 1085 01:04:23,424 --> 01:04:27,689 She felt that close to the men and women in the service. 1086 01:04:29,691 --> 01:04:34,174 One young man came up to me on our first tour in Korea 1087 01:04:34,305 --> 01:04:39,658 at Christmas and put his unit crest on my jacket. 1088 01:04:39,788 --> 01:04:44,793 And from that point forward, every time I turned around, some guy 1089 01:04:44,924 --> 01:04:48,232 was coming up putting a pin on me, or handing me a patch. 1090 01:04:50,974 --> 01:04:55,282 Three years later in Erzurum, Turkey 1091 01:04:55,413 --> 01:04:57,154 a guy comes running down the field: 1092 01:04:57,284 --> 01:04:59,504 "Mom, mom, mom!" 1093 01:04:59,634 --> 01:05:02,899 Has his crest in his hand, he said: "This is my crest now. 1094 01:05:03,029 --> 01:05:05,858 That one was my crest in Korea." 1095 01:05:07,947 --> 01:05:15,389 My jacket weighs 14 pounds and I stayed up every night to saw the patches on. 1096 01:05:19,219 --> 01:05:21,178 It's the most beautiful thing in 1097 01:05:21,308 --> 01:05:24,921 the world to recognize that you are an American 1098 01:05:25,051 --> 01:05:27,967 and that's one of the most beautiful things that I was 1099 01:05:28,098 --> 01:05:31,231 able to give the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders. 1100 01:05:32,929 --> 01:05:35,235 And there are those still today say, 1101 01:05:35,366 --> 01:05:38,456 Suzanne, I wouldn't feel like I do about 1102 01:05:38,586 --> 01:05:44,636 being an American, if it hadn't been for the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders. 1103 01:06:02,959 --> 01:06:05,613 Suzanne once told one of the girls, she said, when you 1104 01:06:05,744 --> 01:06:11,619 put on this costume, this is like wearing the American flag. 1105 01:06:11,750 --> 01:06:14,318 Now, maybe that would have been just a little too much, 1106 01:06:14,448 --> 01:06:17,799 you know, but I think Suzanne really believed that. 1107 01:06:19,801 --> 01:06:21,020 It was a time in America 1108 01:06:21,151 --> 01:06:22,674 where people were looking for something. 1109 01:06:22,804 --> 01:06:25,068 You go back to the early '70s and we were still 1110 01:06:25,198 --> 01:06:27,548 struggling with the end of the Vietnam War. 1111 01:06:27,679 --> 01:06:31,639 We had gas lines every place, you tried to fill up your car. 1112 01:06:31,770 --> 01:06:35,165 You had a president that was on his way to being impeached. 1113 01:06:35,295 --> 01:06:37,558 It was a hard time in America. 1114 01:06:37,689 --> 01:06:41,910 We just needed something to make us feel good about ourselves again. 1115 01:06:42,041 --> 01:06:45,001 The wonderful thing that sports can do 1116 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:50,223 with a grieving nation, with a grieving city, 1117 01:06:50,354 --> 01:06:52,443 is to rally them. 1118 01:06:54,401 --> 01:07:01,060 The team itself offered something for the city to be proud of 1119 01:07:02,583 --> 01:07:05,891 instead of ashamed of what had happened in their city. 1120 01:07:08,459 --> 01:07:10,635 Here's the institution that has gotten the city 1121 01:07:10,765 --> 01:07:14,030 to forget the stain of the assassination of John F. Kennedy. 1122 01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,554 It's no longer the city of hate. 1123 01:07:16,684 --> 01:07:20,471 It's been known around the country as the home of the Dallas Cowboys. 1124 01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:27,434 My pride honestly stems 1125 01:07:27,565 --> 01:07:33,397 from being a part of the era of Tex Schramm, 1126 01:07:33,527 --> 01:07:39,707 Tom Landry and players who for the most part lived up to 1127 01:07:39,838 --> 01:07:44,103 the image that the community expected of them. 1128 01:07:46,758 --> 01:07:52,111 But I think things change, life changes, society changes, 1129 01:07:52,242 --> 01:07:57,203 and change is hard for... me. 1130 01:08:02,121 --> 01:08:04,036 There's a stranger in town. 1131 01:08:06,865 --> 01:08:10,477 He rode into Texas from the bad lands of Arkansas with 1132 01:08:10,608 --> 01:08:14,351 a fistful of dollars and an itchy trigger finger. 1133 01:08:14,481 --> 01:08:17,789 He shot from the lip and laid down the law. 1134 01:08:17,919 --> 01:08:22,489 Now, everyone knows who the stranger is. 1135 01:08:22,620 --> 01:08:25,623 I think he's a jerk. He's got a lot of money and he's got a big mouth. 1136 01:08:25,753 --> 01:08:28,147 I think he stinks. He's obnoxious. 1137 01:08:28,278 --> 01:08:31,411 He's Jerry Jones, the oilman, from Rose City, 1138 01:08:31,542 --> 01:08:36,329 Arkansas who paid more than $100 million for the Dallas Cowboys. 1139 01:08:36,460 --> 01:08:41,813 Jerry Jones bought the team in February of 1989, 1140 01:08:41,943 --> 01:08:44,120 and I stayed for four months. 1141 01:08:44,250 --> 01:08:47,601 And, there were a lot of things that happened during those 1142 01:08:47,732 --> 01:08:52,519 four months that told me that this was not gonna work. 1143 01:08:52,650 --> 01:08:56,349 There was constant clash there, constant confrontation. 1144 01:08:56,480 --> 01:09:02,964 I would have to kick coaches out of our dance studio 1145 01:09:03,095 --> 01:09:05,053 because they would come down drunk... 1146 01:09:07,012 --> 01:09:10,146 and ogle and gawp the girls 1147 01:09:10,276 --> 01:09:13,627 and I would just kick them out of the studio. 1148 01:09:13,758 --> 01:09:20,068 In my opinion the respect for women was not there that had been in the past. 1149 01:09:20,199 --> 01:09:26,988 Jerry Jones and his friends wanted to be real familiar 1150 01:09:27,119 --> 01:09:30,601 with Cowboys Cheerleaders and there was a problem there for a long time. 1151 01:09:30,731 --> 01:09:34,344 I was asked to go on an appearance with... 1152 01:09:34,474 --> 01:09:36,868 In my uniform on an airplane 1153 01:09:36,998 --> 01:09:42,308 with Jerry Jones and his business associates. 1154 01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,702 I didn't feel that that was proper. 1155 01:09:44,832 --> 01:09:47,922 To me it was demeaning and it appeared that we were 1156 01:09:48,053 --> 01:09:52,536 being treated as bimbos, and I wasn't a bimbo. 1157 01:09:55,495 --> 01:09:57,584 I felt like we were just 1158 01:09:57,715 --> 01:10:01,414 bodies for his entertainment purposes. 1159 01:10:01,545 --> 01:10:06,419 You could just tell the way he ta... the way he talked about the women. 1160 01:10:06,550 --> 01:10:08,639 Now, you call them the pick of the litter. 1161 01:10:08,769 --> 01:10:13,470 Sam, our cheerleaders, 36 of them, are 36 girls chosen out 1162 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:18,779 of some 900 girls that try out, so they're outstanding young women. 1163 01:10:18,910 --> 01:10:22,740 He decided to loosen up some of those stuffy old rules, they live by. 1164 01:10:22,870 --> 01:10:24,916 Let the cheerleaders date the players. 1165 01:10:25,046 --> 01:10:28,049 Let them do beer commercials and, oh yes, how about 1166 01:10:28,180 --> 01:10:30,051 if they wear outfits that are more revealing. 1167 01:10:30,182 --> 01:10:31,879 As If that were humanly possible. 1168 01:10:32,010 --> 01:10:36,449 I think Mr. Jones wanted to create his own era, 1169 01:10:36,580 --> 01:10:39,757 therefore he had to get rid of the other era. 1170 01:10:39,887 --> 01:10:43,239 And I was very much part of that other era. 1171 01:10:43,369 --> 01:10:46,024 You came to Dallas and you fired everybody in the Cowboys. 1172 01:10:46,154 --> 01:10:47,982 Particularly coach Landry. 1173 01:10:48,113 --> 01:10:50,550 I mean, here's a guy who had 20 consecutive winning seasons. 1174 01:10:50,681 --> 01:10:52,770 Took the team to the Superbowl five times, 1175 01:10:52,900 --> 01:10:55,555 won two of them and; Fop! Off with his head. 1176 01:10:55,686 --> 01:10:57,165 They were America's team. 1177 01:10:58,166 --> 01:10:59,690 And now? 1178 01:10:59,820 --> 01:11:01,431 They're Jerry Jones' team. 1179 01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:07,350 Jerry Jones started firing everybody. 1180 01:11:08,568 --> 01:11:13,007 Tex Schramm was humiliated by Mr. Jones. 1181 01:11:14,661 --> 01:11:19,710 He had given me everything I had at that moment, for 14 years. 1182 01:11:21,146 --> 01:11:24,976 And one thing that I am is a loyal human being. 1183 01:11:26,847 --> 01:11:32,331 So, May 8th 1989, I walked out the front door with Tex Schramm. 1184 01:11:34,028 --> 01:11:38,032 We were devoted to what we did because it was family. 1185 01:11:39,512 --> 01:11:44,691 And I saw my family being torn apart, and that hurts. 1186 01:11:44,822 --> 01:11:46,389 Suzanne Mitchell left 1187 01:11:46,519 --> 01:11:48,826 the team this spring after 14 years as 1188 01:11:48,956 --> 01:11:51,829 den mother of that other beloved institution, 1189 01:11:51,959 --> 01:11:54,440 the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders. 1190 01:11:54,571 --> 01:11:57,313 She regretted leaving her girls. 1191 01:11:57,443 --> 01:11:59,663 She felt like she abandoned them. 1192 01:11:59,793 --> 01:12:04,145 She realized she wasn't going to win, and the image was going to change. 1193 01:12:04,276 --> 01:12:05,799 And she couldn't compromise her integrity. 1194 01:12:05,930 --> 01:12:08,236 I don't think he thought he thought he was 1195 01:12:08,367 --> 01:12:11,457 going to have resistance, especially from the cheerleaders. 1196 01:12:11,588 --> 01:12:16,506 He thought, you know, we would listen like everybody else listens to him. 1197 01:12:16,636 --> 01:12:22,686 She had girls who had been there before and under the culture of Suzanne, 1198 01:12:22,816 --> 01:12:27,821 they just didn't feel it was right, so they made their decision to leave. 1199 01:12:27,952 --> 01:12:30,563 Well son, in Texas you can burn the flag, 1200 01:12:30,694 --> 01:12:32,565 but don't mess with the cheerleaders. 1201 01:12:32,696 --> 01:12:35,916 14 veteran cheerleaders have quit. 1202 01:12:36,047 --> 01:12:38,179 I had everything. I was in the calendar. 1203 01:12:38,310 --> 01:12:41,879 I was the centerfold of the, you know, the Gameday Magazine 1204 01:12:42,009 --> 01:12:44,055 with Troy Aikman on the cover. 1205 01:12:44,185 --> 01:12:46,100 I walked away from all of it. 1206 01:12:47,798 --> 01:12:51,628 The girls who left the squad, the 14, were ones 1207 01:12:51,758 --> 01:12:57,416 that truly understood what the whole image of DCC was. 1208 01:12:58,765 --> 01:13:03,466 What had been fought for all these years 1209 01:13:03,596 --> 01:13:06,730 in court, in the public eye. 1210 01:13:08,688 --> 01:13:13,780 And when they were faced with the fighting, they knew they could do it. 1211 01:13:15,565 --> 01:13:17,393 That's one of the biggest testaments to Suzanne that there is. 1212 01:13:17,523 --> 01:13:22,354 That we didn't just follow along and that we stood up for ourselves 1213 01:13:22,485 --> 01:13:24,051 and what she had built. 1214 01:13:25,139 --> 01:13:27,315 One of those paradoxes I guess again, 1215 01:13:27,446 --> 01:13:30,841 that we rebelled against the rules at first in the 70's. 1216 01:13:30,971 --> 01:13:37,413 And then when this came around beginning of the 90's, we wanted those rules. 1217 01:13:39,632 --> 01:13:43,462 People didn't think that we could do it, and people thought we'd go away. 1218 01:13:43,593 --> 01:13:45,029 But we never went away. 1219 01:13:45,159 --> 01:13:46,683 We still haven't gone away. 1220 01:13:48,598 --> 01:13:52,558 You still hear somebody say: "She was a Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader." 1221 01:13:55,256 --> 01:13:57,258 It's not just about being a cheerleader, 1222 01:13:57,389 --> 01:14:00,914 it's about a life set skill. 1223 01:14:02,307 --> 01:14:04,352 You learn that positive energy: "I can do it." 1224 01:14:04,483 --> 01:14:05,615 I can do it. 1225 01:14:05,745 --> 01:14:07,704 I can do it. 1226 01:14:07,834 --> 01:14:11,011 I have raised a daughter and I've got two granddaughters now. 1227 01:14:11,142 --> 01:14:13,710 And I hope that if they want to be a Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader, 1228 01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,364 no one's going to say: "Oh, you're a dumb cheerleader" 1229 01:14:16,495 --> 01:14:18,062 or if they want to be a doctor, 1230 01:14:18,192 --> 01:14:19,629 no one's going to say: "Oh, you 1231 01:14:19,759 --> 01:14:21,674 shouldn't do that." I think you should just 1232 01:14:21,805 --> 01:14:24,938 be allowed to be what you want to be and not be judgmental about it. 1233 01:14:25,069 --> 01:14:26,766 Suzanne taught us, not just 1234 01:14:26,897 --> 01:14:30,161 to be girls, but to grow up to be women. 1235 01:14:30,291 --> 01:14:31,641 The sisterhood will never die. 1236 01:14:32,598 --> 01:14:33,512 Not ever. 1237 01:14:34,426 --> 01:14:35,819 She changed my life. 1238 01:14:37,298 --> 01:14:40,214 So, uhm... Excuse me. 1239 01:14:40,345 --> 01:14:45,872 She taught me to believe in myself 1240 01:14:48,179 --> 01:14:53,227 and she gave me an opportunity to make a difference in my life. 1241 01:14:53,358 --> 01:14:55,578 God bless you. 1242 01:15:01,192 --> 01:15:03,760 The DCC critical information. 1243 01:15:03,890 --> 01:15:06,937 You do not receive any free tickets to the game. 1244 01:15:07,067 --> 01:15:09,809 You must go to the ticket office like everyone else. 1245 01:15:09,940 --> 01:15:11,115 You are not special. 1246 01:15:11,245 --> 01:15:14,553 No, that last part was just my add-on. 1247 01:15:14,684 --> 01:15:18,209 Number three, make negative experiences work for you. 1248 01:15:19,340 --> 01:15:21,821 Example, if you are made an alternate, 1249 01:15:21,952 --> 01:15:24,345 use that as incentive to work harder. 1250 01:15:25,129 --> 01:15:26,347 Don't pout. 1251 01:15:28,349 --> 01:15:30,874 Oh, we had to know the Star Spangled Banner. 1252 01:15:31,004 --> 01:15:32,353 Wow. 1253 01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,227 Number nine, do not take anything for granted. 1254 01:15:37,663 --> 01:15:40,187 Allow callouses on our feet to remain. 1255 01:15:40,318 --> 01:15:41,711 It will be easier to dance. 1256 01:15:41,841 --> 01:15:43,713 Otherwise, you will have tender feet all year. 1257 01:15:43,843 --> 01:15:46,193 Do not compare yourself to anyone. 1258 01:15:46,324 --> 01:15:50,633 If you feel you must compete, do so with yourself. 1259 01:15:53,461 --> 01:15:58,423 Everything must be approved by Suzanne Mitchell. 1260 01:16:02,079 --> 01:16:04,298 I think we all have a destiny. 1261 01:16:05,865 --> 01:16:10,391 My contribution to pass on was solely and completely 1262 01:16:10,522 --> 01:16:14,657 who these ladies would become when the music stopped, 1263 01:16:14,787 --> 01:16:19,879 So that your children look back and say: "You see what my mom did. 1264 01:16:20,010 --> 01:16:22,708 You see what she gave the world. 1265 01:16:22,839 --> 01:16:26,843 And I'm so proud of her." That's what you want your children to say. 1266 01:16:35,765 --> 01:16:38,463 That's it. 109301

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