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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:03,880 We are ready. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:06,600 Nat, how do you feel? 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:11,440 I would like to know, what is it that brings you all to orgasm? 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,840 Yes. The more fingers, the better. I'll probably ask you for more. 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:21,760 So, here I am in Barcelona on my first ever porn shoot. 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,760 00:00:51,880 Whoo! 13 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,880 The porn industry is estimated to be worth up to a whopping 14 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,520 a hundred billion dollars a year, with more web traffic than 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,960 Netflix, Amazon and Twitter combined. 16 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:10,080 00:01:27,520 Oh! Oh! This is horrible. 23 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,320 And I worry about the impact it's having on the people who use it. 24 00:01:31,320 --> 00:01:34,200 Whoa! Like, this image is crazy. 25 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,080 So is there an alternative? 26 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,480 They're hugging. It's great. 27 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,720 Can I find porn I feel good about? 28 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,320 00:02:22,160 OK... 37 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,640 Every day, there are hundreds of millions of visits 38 00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:27,000 to porn sites across the world. 39 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,200 With most people watching it on their mobile devices, 40 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,680 porn is now more accessible than ever, 41 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:38,320 00:03:10,480 And it wasn't until... I don't know, a couple of years ago 48 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,680 when I just started trying to masturbate without it. 49 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,000 And it was hard. And without a sex toy, too. 50 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,120 00:03:38,080 a lot less respect or a way worse sexual relationship with myself. 56 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,520 Porn is quite intense, and I think it can be quite scary 57 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,120 when it gives young people a very skewed way of 58 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,320 00:04:11,640 were hentai, Japanese, lesbian and MILF. 64 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,680 But things can get pretty extreme. 65 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:20,320 In 2020, around 40% of porn on Xvideos and Pornhub 66 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,320 included acts of physical aggression. 67 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,800 I've seen a lot of porn 00:04:39,760 So am I always going to 00:05:03,840 Erika Lust creates films that are radically different to the free, 78 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:07,880 easily accessible stuff you find on most porn websites. 79 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,880 She takes a totally ethical approach, 80 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,600 but I wonder - what does that really mean? 81 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,080 00:05:45,520 And what was it about mainstream porn that is a problem? Mm-hm. 88 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,320 Well, for me it's the whole kind of system, I think. 89 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,280 I think that most of the people 00:06:12,400 Punish fucking. When you watch women having sex with these men 95 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,840 or whatever, you can tell they're not turned on. It's crazy. 96 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:20,560 With mainstream porn today, they are 00:06:40,320 So here, what do we see? 103 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,960 We see two big men and we see a very young girl. She looks so young. 104 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,200 If we read the tag line, it says, 105 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:52,920 "Tiny teen destroyed by two giant black dudes." 106 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,320 And this is an example of 00:07:18,760 So gross. Here's another really good example. 113 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:24,520 This is about "lesbian beauty tries her first cock and loves it". 114 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,840 And what is this about? 00:07:45,600 and they're like, but that's their favourite one to watch 121 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,240 because it's safer than the other ones. 122 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,840 Well, I'm like, "It's not really lesbian sex, either," 123 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:54,040 00:07:57,440 Look at the language. This is... There's no end to it. 125 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,760 And then I have an example that you are not going to like at all. 126 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:06,280 00:08:22,280 because I want to change porn culture. I also seen how this 132 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:28,480 independent movement around porn has grown since I started. 133 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,880 I never even considered or thought that there was female directors 134 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,520 00:08:54,480 film-making, because that's the only way we're going to be 140 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,960 able to see the perspective shift. 141 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,040 What she showed me was, yeah, really horrifying. 142 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,000 00:09:28,480 porn I'm hoping that I can finally feel good about. 148 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,680 I was completely desensitised by the porn I'd watched. 149 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:39,720 In my mind, the dangerous part, it's a lot of female objectification, 150 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,880 00:09:56,160 I speak to a lot of women and they have the same feeling, 156 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,000 and it's horrible. There's so much shame involved in that. 157 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,720 And you can't ever unsee any of that stuff. 158 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,400 There's a lot of weird shit in the world! 159 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,440 00:10:23,440 But when it comes to erotic depictions of women, 165 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,880 oh, dear, it can be pretty dark and degrading. 166 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:33,000 Akihabara is the beating heart of Japan's manga industry, 167 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,120 worth around $5 billion a year. 168 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,320 00:10:59,120 and hardcore, hentai. 174 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,400 And I'm sensing two main themes here... 175 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:07,920 ..wildly oversized breasts and the sexualisation of schoolgirls, 176 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,200 and both creep me out. 177 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,480 Whoa! Like, this image is crazy! 178 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,280 00:11:37,000 But I've been told there's an erotic manga subculture 185 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,000 that's way more appealing to women and less degrading. 186 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,440 Stay with me here. Yes, Boys Love is gay sex between men 187 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,040 00:13:04,480 two people who are giving AND receiving pleasure. 194 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,880 Obviously, BL has a really positive influence. 195 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,040 Do you hope it reaches a wider audience? 196 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,040 And what do you think 00:13:56,120 And I kind of wish there was a middle ground that straight men 202 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,680 could be into that wasn't so sexual. 203 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,680 We can draw anime. 204 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,440 I think we need more stuff like Japan's Boy's Love comics... 205 00:14:07,560 --> 00:14:12,280 ..sexy stories that reflect the full 00:14:32,200 For me, what I want to capture is raw, true, real-life intimacy. 211 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,840 The things that I find extremely sexy are the forbidden, 212 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,440 like English repression in terms of sexuality. 213 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,840 You know, I remember 00:14:56,920 and more lately, that Bridgerton porn kind of side. See? See? 219 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,160 So, for me, inspiration comes from all over the place - 220 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,840 a great story or an interesting character or a location 221 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:08,000 00:15:10,880 "..sex in a space like that." Erika you're the best. 223 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,480 I cannot wait to work with you. 224 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,960 It's going to be amazing. Thank you so much. 225 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,600 I've realised that not all porn 00:15:40,120 Germany, meet Gandalf. 231 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,000 Welcome in Berlin. 232 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,680 Thanks! 233 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,760 This not-too-shabby Trabi will be dropping me 234 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,200 at the Schwules, or gay, Museum. 235 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:52,920 It looks pretty ordinary, 236 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,920 but this place owns the biggest 00:16:21,760 I think that porn is particularly important for LGBTQI people 243 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:27,240 because you have very little representation of queer people 244 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,560 in mainstream media to begin with. 245 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,960 OK, so here we are. 246 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,520 Oh, wow. 00:16:54,960 And if we go over here... 253 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,480 ..many VHS tapes! 254 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,560 Wow! The Pizza Boy 2! 255 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,240 Oh, my God. There's a lot of dicks and asses, 256 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,600 there's not a lot of women back here. No, it's not. 257 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,080 00:17:32,600 by a German director, Wieland Speck. 264 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,760 So, the idea here is that everybody pretended there were no 265 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,440 condoms, you know, so you saw people kissing. 266 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,680 And then it came to the fucking, and 00:18:05,840 So the idea is to make using a condom sexy. 273 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,800 When you have a representation of queer people, 274 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,720 maybe they are, like, allowed to hold hands, 275 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,680 00:18:39,880 What is happening here? Why is he so bad at this? I don't know. 282 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,320 Why's there so much air at the end? I've never seen that done before. 283 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,080 THEY LAUGH Oh, my God! 284 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,080 00:19:03,640 They are drag queens. The drag queens are beating up the skinheads. 290 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,120 Yeah, I've never been to Berlin and done anything like this, 291 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:09,360 so it's been really amazing. I love Berlin! 292 00:19:09,360 --> 00:19:13,560 Yay! That's a wrap for Berlin. 00:19:31,400 So I would just like to see more diversity in the people that 298 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,680 write the porn, the people that direct the porn, 299 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,040 the people that are in the porn. I just want it to be real. 300 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,320 00:20:03,640 It's something that you reach for to help you in what you need, 306 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,920 what you rely on. Whoa, was I addicted to porn? 307 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,480 I wouldn't watch it every day, for sure. 308 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,720 I wouldn't need to have 00:20:34,080 but new research is making scientists think again. 315 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,280 Get your books out 316 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,520 you'll be read... 317 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,560 The University of California, San Diego is the site of some 318 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,360 00:21:14,640 For him, there's one question more important than any other - 324 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,880 can you REALLY get addicted to porn? 325 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,560 For majority of people, pornographic watching is just an entertainment. 326 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,760 00:21:40,320 not how much, but how do you watch and when do you watch? 332 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:46,840 The average age of patients we've seen in treatment is around 27. 333 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,040 So, usually, they have been watching pornography 334 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,160 00:22:13,560 brains of people who struggle with problematic pornography use 340 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,520 with those who use porn but never experience any problems. 341 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,640 These tests compare the brain activity of problematic porn 342 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,640 00:22:47,600 One is related to their ventral striatum. 349 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,760 This is a reward circuit, and it becomes super sensitive 350 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,440 for all the triggers related to pornography watching. 351 00:22:57,360 --> 00:23:01,640 00:23:22,360 And this is linked to less grey matter volume 357 00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:25,560 in the prefrontal cortex. This is this part of the brain. 358 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,720 When we compare problematic pornography users 359 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:33,800 00:23:50,640 We should have around 40% grey matter, 365 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,640 but problematic porn users have less. 366 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:58,080 And less grey matter is linked to addiction, although it's not clear 367 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,600 whether lower grey matter is a 00:24:23,360 by the World Health Organization as a clinical condition. 373 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,040 That means people have better access to 374 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,640 treatment like antidepressants and psychotherapy. 375 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,240 It's very difficult to quit porn once you develop this 376 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,520 00:25:00,720 So, the good news for porn and substance addicts 382 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,400 is that brain function can bounce back. 383 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,640 I'm back in horny-porny, Spainy Barcelona. 384 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:17,960 Ah! 385 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,760 I love those ideas. 386 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:24,520 00:25:43,120 I feel like exploring time periods and group sex. 393 00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:45,520 I've always been obsessed with the '60s and '70s, 394 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,040 the way everything looked but also the sexual revolution, 395 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,840 00:26:09,080 And we should find some good music to set kind of the ambience. 401 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:14,040 Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes! Is it all female or male? I think everyone. 402 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,600 The idea of taking it outside the conventional standard of what sex 403 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,800 00:26:38,800 For me, I think that porn is really lacking in the female voice 408 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,800 or at least different voices, different points of view. 409 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,960 So much porn, but so much of it is on the same narrative. 410 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:52,000 00:27:11,040 of what love or intimacy should look like. 416 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,880 Manhattan - I've heard it's home to another pioneering woman 417 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,200 offering an alternative to the mainstream porn industry, 418 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,840 00:27:53,800 You roll first. For me, wow, this is love - real, sexy love. 427 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,640 MakeLoveNotPorn is a paid subscription video platform 428 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,720 launched by the entrepreneur Cindy Gallop. 429 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,280 00:28:19,360 We are the world's first and only user-generated, human-curated 435 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:21,800 social sex video sharing platform. 436 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,360 And forget the unreal, filtered porn-perfect bodies on 437 00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:29,360 so many mainstream sites. 438 00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:32,080 Real-world sex is 00:28:50,440 casually, recreationally for sex. 445 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,960 And I'm deliberately very vocal about all of that because 446 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,960 I realised I was experiencing what happens when today's 447 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:03,160 total freedom of access to hardcore porn online meets our society's 448 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,960 00:29:23,840 I thought, gosh, if I'm experiencing this, other people must be as well. 454 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,200 And I realised I'd uncovered a huge, global social issue. Incredible. 455 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,960 So, this video is by Goddess Erica, 00:30:16,960 when we can expand the definition of real-world sex. 463 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,880 Tantric kissing was something 464 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,080 we hadn't had until this video, which was really exiting. 465 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,520 This isn't making me, like, horny. Even though it's not NOT making me 466 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,040 00:30:45,520 It's like... It's just so backwards about what people believe. 472 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:50,840 It's pretty obvious to me why this real-world content is so appealing. 473 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:55,760 But why, I wonder, would anyone want 00:31:19,240 Oh, my God. Amazing. 480 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,800 That video made me feel so much more than I expected. 481 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,040 Like, I actually felt like I wanted to cry, cos it made me really want 482 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,160 to kiss someone that I felt 00:31:35,160 beautiful, beautiful. That's one of the nice things 485 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,760 with MakeLoveNotPorn, because I always like to think that, you know, 486 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,040 with mainstream pornography, 00:31:59,800 "This is so great." Thank you! 493 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,480 494 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,760 You gonna come closer? 495 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,720 I think Cindy's platform is ethical, real and raunchy. 496 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,760 00:32:36,200 She teaches porn literacy to young people - 503 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,000 in a nutshell, how to think critically about mainstream porn 504 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,920 that requires one or two clicks and no subscriptions. 505 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,640 As a health educator working in 00:33:04,520 00:33:24,000 meant to define me or explain who I am. 516 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,400 I started watching porn when I was fairly young. 517 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,360 That's how I was introduced to sex. Yeah. How old? 518 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,120 00:33:54,800 Then I started becoming more curious. 524 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,320 I was able to stumble upon porn websites, 525 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,080 and that was around the age of ten. 526 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:06,280 I was, like, 14 or so. "I know 00:34:26,200 Like when you touch someone's hand for a long period of time, 533 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,320 it will turn on their whole body. Like, just to show that the whole 534 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,800 body of a woman is a sexual organ. 535 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,000 Teaching pornography literacy 00:34:50,280 getting pregnant, how to not contract an infection. 542 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,400 A lot of my students are using mainstream pornography 543 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,840 as the main instruction manual. That is normalising the lack 544 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:04,520 00:35:27,040 We need to help young people understand 550 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,920 that this shit is not real. 551 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,920 I think a lot of teenage boys think that they'll be a pizza 552 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,320 delivery boy and they'll just go to a house one day 553 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,480 00:35:51,480 and their parents won't tell them and their teachers won't speak 559 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,600 to them about what sex is. That's all they know. 560 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,760 I think the whole porn industry needs to just take a step up 561 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,920 and go up a level, because porn 00:36:21,480 that you thought I was... 567 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:27,960 Ready? 568 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:35,520 We are on the way back in Barcelona to watch Erika direct 569 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,960 the porn film loosely based on my fantasies. 570 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,640 So I'm very excited. 571 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,360 00:36:59,880 where we actually get to know the performers. 578 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,360 The cool bubble around here, please. 579 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,320 So professional. So cool! 580 00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:12,480 Now, I know that Erika's films are all about inclusivity, 581 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,640 00:37:36,680 Bishop, what do you think? 588 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,160 THEY LAUGH 589 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,520 My back is actually quite a sensitive space, 590 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,640 but, like, impact play is actually fine. 591 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,840 I'm pretty into giving, 592 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,720 so, like, blow jobs, rimming, 00:38:08,040 I'm pretty easy with almost everything, minus anal sex 599 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,280 and playing with my nipples. They're too sensitive to touch. 600 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:17,600 And I also would like to know, what is it that brings you all to orgasm? 601 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,800 Yeah. OK, well, in that case, 00:38:45,360 Thank you. And cut. 608 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,160 I love this, because I think that makes the whole statement, I think. 609 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,520 James Bond. James Bond! My Bond girl. 610 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,800 It looks unbelievable. 611 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,920 00:39:17,160 what makes them reach an orgasm, what makes them comfortable, 618 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,840 what makes them uncomfortable. Just making my dreams come true 619 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:24,280 in terms of what it should be. After filming sex personally, 620 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:29,880 00:39:45,640 We're going to talk about the light and the best angles 627 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,160 and the best places and that. Right, so then they can... 628 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,560 But then when we start, 00:40:11,960 Yes! 638 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,760 Sexy! 639 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,440 Yes! That looks great. 640 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,880 As the director, I'm really trying always to prioritise women 641 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,640 when I'm searching for people. I can see the difference. 642 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:45,240 I can see how they focus 00:41:03,680 the story you want to tell. 649 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,360 That is a wrap. We have a wrap. 650 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,800 Whoo! 651 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,120 So ends my time with Lady Lust and team. 652 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,320 Always good to go out with a bang. 653 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,720 Thank you! 654 00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:20,480 It wasn't that strange, was it? 00:41:42,760 There's boundaries, respect and care. 660 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,840 No-one's exploited and everyone's included. 661 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,040 I came in kind of like, "Why would you pay for porn?" 662 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,240 You pay for an experience, 00:42:07,000 That's the most important thing, cos you get really attached to them all. 668 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,360 I was like, "Yeah, go! Come! Whoo!" 669 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,560 I don't know. That was amazing. I'm like, "Ah, you get it." 670 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,240 I want to high-five all of them. It was wonderful. 671 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,280 00:42:41,000 that I knew it was in real life. 677 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,560 If I had seen that kind of porn when I was a teenager or kid, I would've 678 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,520 felt more respected and asked for what I wanted as a woman a lot more. 679 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,760 The first time I asked a man for what 680 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,080 00:43:08,120 There is a healthy way that porn can be made and watched, 686 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:12,360 ranging from, like, amateur porn, Cindy Gallop, MakeLoveNotPorn, 687 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,440 or Erika Lust, an ethical feminist, but more equality-type porn. 688 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,080 But the problem

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