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We are ready.
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Nat, how do you feel?
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I would like to know, what is it
that brings you all to orgasm?
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Yes. The more fingers, the better.
I'll probably ask you for more.
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So, here I am in Barcelona
on my first ever porn shoot.
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Whoo!
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The porn industry is estimated
to be worth up to a whopping
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a hundred billion dollars a year,
with more web traffic than
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Netflix, Amazon
and Twitter combined.
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Oh! Oh! This is horrible.
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And I worry about the impact it's
having on the people who use it.
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Whoa! Like, this image is crazy.
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So is there an alternative?
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They're hugging. It's great.
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Can I find porn I feel good about?
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OK...
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Every day, there are
hundreds of millions of visits
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to porn sites across the world.
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With most people watching it
on their mobile devices,
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porn is now more accessible
than ever,
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And it wasn't until...
I don't know, a couple of years ago
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when I just started
trying to masturbate without it.
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And it was hard.
And without a sex toy, too.
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a lot less respect or a way worse
sexual relationship with myself.
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Porn is quite intense, and I think
it can be quite scary
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when it gives young people
a very skewed way of
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were hentai, Japanese,
lesbian and MILF.
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But things can get pretty extreme.
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In 2020, around 40% of porn
on Xvideos and Pornhub
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included acts
of physical aggression.
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I've seen a lot of porn
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So am I always going to
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Erika Lust creates films that
are radically different to the free,
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easily accessible stuff
you find on most porn websites.
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She takes
a totally ethical approach,
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but I wonder -
what does that really mean?
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And what was it about mainstream
porn that is a problem? Mm-hm.
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Well, for me it's the whole
kind of system, I think.
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I think that most of the people
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Punish fucking. When you watch
women having sex with these men
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or whatever, you can tell
they're not turned on. It's crazy.
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With mainstream porn today, they are
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So here, what do we see?
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We see two big men and we see a very
young girl. She looks so young.
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If we read the tag line, it says,
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"Tiny teen destroyed
by two giant black dudes."
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And this is an example of
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So gross. Here's another
really good example.
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This is about "lesbian beauty
tries her first cock and loves it".
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And what is this about?
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and they're like, but that's
their favourite one to watch
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because it's safer
than the other ones.
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Well, I'm like, "It's not really
lesbian sex, either,"
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Look at the language. This is...
There's no end to it.
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And then I have an example that
you are not going to like at all.
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because I want to change
porn culture. I also seen how this
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independent movement around porn
has grown since I started.
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I never even considered or thought
that there was female directors
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film-making, because that's
the only way we're going to be
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able to see the perspective shift.
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What she showed me
was, yeah, really horrifying.
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porn I'm hoping that I can
finally feel good about.
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I was completely desensitised
by the porn I'd watched.
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In my mind, the dangerous part, it's
a lot of female objectification,
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I speak to a lot of women
and they have the same feeling,
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and it's horrible. There's
so much shame involved in that.
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And you can't ever unsee
any of that stuff.
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There's a lot of weird shit
in the world!
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But when it comes to
erotic depictions of women,
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oh, dear, it can be
pretty dark and degrading.
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Akihabara is the beating heart
of Japan's manga industry,
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worth around $5 billion a year.
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and hardcore, hentai.
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And I'm sensing
two main themes here...
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..wildly oversized breasts and
the sexualisation of schoolgirls,
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and both creep me out.
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Whoa! Like, this image is crazy!
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But I've been told
there's an erotic manga subculture
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that's way more appealing
to women and less degrading.
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Stay with me here. Yes, Boys Love
is gay sex between men
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two people who are giving
AND receiving pleasure.
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Obviously, BL has
a really positive influence.
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Do you hope it reaches
a wider audience?
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And what do you think
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And I kind of wish there was
a middle ground that straight men
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could be into that wasn't so sexual.
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We can draw anime.
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I think we need more stuff
like Japan's Boy's Love comics...
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..sexy stories that reflect the full
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For me, what I want to capture
is raw, true, real-life intimacy.
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The things that I find
extremely sexy are the forbidden,
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like English repression
in terms of sexuality.
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You know, I remember
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and more lately, that Bridgerton
porn kind of side. See? See?
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So, for me, inspiration
comes from all over the place -
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a great story or an interesting
character or a location
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"..sex in a space like that."
Erika you're the best.
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I cannot wait to work with you.
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It's going to be amazing.
Thank you so much.
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I've realised that not all porn
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Germany, meet Gandalf.
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Welcome in Berlin.
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Thanks!
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This not-too-shabby Trabi
will be dropping me
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at the Schwules, or gay, Museum.
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It looks pretty ordinary,
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but this place owns the biggest
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I think that porn is particularly
important for LGBTQI people
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because you have very little
representation of queer people
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in mainstream media to begin with.
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OK, so here we are.
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Oh, wow.
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And if we go over here...
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..many VHS tapes!
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Wow! The Pizza Boy 2!
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Oh, my God. There's a lot
of dicks and asses,
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there's not a lot of women
back here. No, it's not.
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by a German director, Wieland Speck.
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So, the idea here is that
everybody pretended there were no
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condoms, you know,
so you saw people kissing.
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And then it came to the fucking, and
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So the idea is
to make using a condom sexy.
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When you have a representation
of queer people,
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maybe they are, like,
allowed to hold hands,
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What is happening here? Why is he
so bad at this? I don't know.
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Why's there so much air at the end?
I've never seen that done before.
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THEY LAUGH
Oh, my God!
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They are drag queens. The drag
queens are beating up the skinheads.
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Yeah, I've never been to Berlin
and done anything like this,
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so it's been really amazing.
I love Berlin!
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Yay! That's a wrap for Berlin.
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So I would just like to see
more diversity in the people that
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write the porn, the people
that direct the porn,
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the people that are in the porn.
I just want it to be real.
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It's something that you reach for
to help you in what you need,
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what you rely on.
Whoa, was I addicted to porn?
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I wouldn't watch it
every day, for sure.
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I wouldn't need to have
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but new research is making
scientists think again.
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Get your books out
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you'll be read...
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The University of California,
San Diego is the site of some
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For him, there's one question
more important than any other -
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can you REALLY get addicted to porn?
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For majority of people, pornographic
watching is just an entertainment.
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not how much, but how do you watch
and when do you watch?
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The average age of patients we've
seen in treatment is around 27.
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So, usually, they have been
watching pornography
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brains of people who struggle
with problematic pornography use
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with those who use porn
but never experience any problems.
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These tests compare the brain
activity of problematic porn
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One is related to
their ventral striatum.
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This is a reward circuit,
and it becomes super sensitive
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for all the triggers
related to pornography watching.
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And this is linked
to less grey matter volume
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in the prefrontal cortex.
This is this part of the brain.
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When we compare
problematic pornography users
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We should have
around 40% grey matter,
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but problematic porn users
have less.
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And less grey matter is linked to
addiction, although it's not clear
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whether lower grey matter is a
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by the World Health Organization
as a clinical condition.
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That means people have
better access to
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treatment like antidepressants
and psychotherapy.
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It's very difficult to quit porn
once you develop this
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So, the good news for
porn and substance addicts
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is that brain function
can bounce back.
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I'm back in horny-porny,
Spainy Barcelona.
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Ah!
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I love those ideas.
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I feel like exploring
time periods and group sex.
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I've always been obsessed
with the '60s and '70s,
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the way everything looked
but also the sexual revolution,
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And we should find some good music
to set kind of the ambience.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes! Is it all
female or male? I think everyone.
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The idea of taking it outside the
conventional standard of what sex
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For me, I think that porn is
really lacking in the female voice
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or at least different voices,
different points of view.
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So much porn, but so much of it
is on the same narrative.
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of what love or intimacy
should look like.
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Manhattan - I've heard it's home
to another pioneering woman
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offering an alternative
to the mainstream porn industry,
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You roll first. For me, wow,
this is love - real, sexy love.
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MakeLoveNotPorn is a paid
subscription video platform
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launched by the entrepreneur
Cindy Gallop.
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We are the world's first and only
user-generated, human-curated
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social sex video sharing platform.
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And forget the unreal, filtered
porn-perfect bodies on
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so many mainstream sites.
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Real-world sex is
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casually, recreationally for sex.
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And I'm deliberately very vocal
about all of that because
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I realised I was experiencing
what happens when today's
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total freedom of access to hardcore
porn online meets our society's
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I thought, gosh, if I'm experiencing
this, other people must be as well.
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And I realised I'd uncovered a huge,
global social issue. Incredible.
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So, this video is by Goddess Erica,
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when we can expand the definition
of real-world sex.
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Tantric kissing was something
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we hadn't had until this video,
which was really exiting.
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This isn't making me, like, horny.
Even though it's not NOT making me
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It's like... It's just so backwards
about what people believe.
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It's pretty obvious to me why this
real-world content is so appealing.
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But why, I wonder, would anyone want
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Oh, my God. Amazing.
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That video made me feel
so much more than I expected.
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Like, I actually felt like I wanted
to cry, cos it made me really want
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to kiss someone that I felt
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beautiful, beautiful.
That's one of the nice things
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with MakeLoveNotPorn, because I
always like to think that, you know,
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with mainstream pornography,
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"This is so great." Thank you!
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You gonna come closer?
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I think Cindy's platform
is ethical, real and raunchy.
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She teaches porn literacy
to young people -
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in a nutshell, how to think
critically about mainstream porn
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that requires one or two clicks
and no subscriptions.
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As a health educator working in
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meant to define me
or explain who I am.
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I started watching porn
when I was fairly young.
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That's how I was introduced to sex.
Yeah. How old?
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Then I started
becoming more curious.
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I was able to stumble upon
porn websites,
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and that was around the age of ten.
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I was, like, 14 or so. "I know
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Like when you touch someone's hand
for a long period of time,
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it will turn on their whole body.
Like, just to show that the whole
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body of a woman is a sexual organ.
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Teaching pornography literacy
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getting pregnant,
how to not contract an infection.
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A lot of my students
are using mainstream pornography
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as the main instruction manual.
That is normalising the lack
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We need to help
young people understand
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that this shit is not real.
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I think a lot of teenage boys
think that they'll be a pizza
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00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,320
delivery boy and they'll just
go to a house one day
553
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,480
00:35:51,480
and their parents won't tell them
and their teachers won't speak
559
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,600
to them about what sex is.
That's all they know.
560
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,760
I think the whole porn industry
needs to just take a step up
561
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,920
and go up a level, because porn
00:36:21,480
that you thought I was...
567
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:27,960
Ready?
568
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:35,520
We are on the way back in Barcelona
to watch Erika direct
569
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,960
the porn film
loosely based on my fantasies.
570
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,640
So I'm very excited.
571
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,360
00:36:59,880
where we actually get to know
the performers.
578
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,360
The cool bubble around here, please.
579
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,320
So professional. So cool!
580
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:12,480
Now, I know that Erika's films
are all about inclusivity,
581
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,640
00:37:36,680
Bishop, what do you think?
588
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,160
THEY LAUGH
589
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,520
My back is actually
quite a sensitive space,
590
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,640
but, like, impact play
is actually fine.
591
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,840
I'm pretty into giving,
592
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,720
so, like, blow jobs, rimming,
00:38:08,040
I'm pretty easy with
almost everything, minus anal sex
599
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,280
and playing with my nipples.
They're too sensitive to touch.
600
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:17,600
And I also would like to know, what
is it that brings you all to orgasm?
601
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,800
Yeah. OK, well, in that case,
00:38:45,360
Thank you. And cut.
608
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,160
I love this, because I think that
makes the whole statement, I think.
609
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,520
James Bond.
James Bond! My Bond girl.
610
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,800
It looks unbelievable.
611
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,920
00:39:17,160
what makes them reach an orgasm,
what makes them comfortable,
618
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,840
what makes them uncomfortable.
Just making my dreams come true
619
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:24,280
in terms of what it should be.
After filming sex personally,
620
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:29,880
00:39:45,640
We're going to talk about
the light and the best angles
627
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,160
and the best places and that.
Right, so then they can...
628
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,560
But then when we start,
00:40:11,960
Yes!
638
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,760
Sexy!
639
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,440
Yes! That looks great.
640
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,880
As the director, I'm really trying
always to prioritise women
641
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,640
when I'm searching for people.
I can see the difference.
642
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:45,240
I can see how they focus
00:41:03,680
the story you want to tell.
649
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,360
That is a wrap. We have a wrap.
650
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,800
Whoo!
651
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,120
So ends my time
with Lady Lust and team.
652
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,320
Always good to go out with a bang.
653
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,720
Thank you!
654
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:20,480
It wasn't that strange, was it?
00:41:42,760
There's boundaries,
respect and care.
660
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,840
No-one's exploited
and everyone's included.
661
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,040
I came in kind of like,
"Why would you pay for porn?"
662
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,240
You pay for an experience,
00:42:07,000
That's the most important thing, cos
you get really attached to them all.
668
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,360
I was like, "Yeah, go! Come! Whoo!"
669
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,560
I don't know. That was amazing.
I'm like, "Ah, you get it."
670
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,240
I want to high-five all of them.
It was wonderful.
671
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,280
00:42:41,000
that I knew it was in real life.
677
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,560
If I had seen that kind of porn when
I was a teenager or kid, I would've
678
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,520
felt more respected and asked for
what I wanted as a woman a lot more.
679
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,760
The first time
I asked a man for what
680
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,080
00:43:08,120
There is a healthy way
that porn can be made and watched,
686
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:12,360
ranging from, like, amateur porn,
Cindy Gallop, MakeLoveNotPorn,
687
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,440
or Erika Lust, an ethical feminist,
but more equality-type porn.
688
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,080
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