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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,042 --> 00:00:03,208 - [Rudy] The following program contains footage 2 00:00:03,333 --> 00:00:04,500 of military operations. 3 00:00:04,667 --> 00:00:06,292 Viewer discretion is advised. 4 00:00:09,125 --> 00:00:12,292 Tonight, on The Proof Is Out There: Military Mysteries, 5 00:00:12,375 --> 00:00:16,917 a 747 takes off in a war zone and lands in a fireball. 6 00:00:17,042 --> 00:00:19,000 Whoa, who's responsible? 7 00:00:19,083 --> 00:00:21,333 The enemy, or us? 8 00:00:21,417 --> 00:00:24,125 - To see one of our aircraft destroyed in such a manner 9 00:00:24,208 --> 00:00:26,250 is something I've never seen before. 10 00:00:26,375 --> 00:00:29,000 - [Rudy] Haunting voices from Vietnam. 11 00:00:29,125 --> 00:00:31,958 Was this how the Army got in the enemy's head? 12 00:00:32,042 --> 00:00:34,708 - Mysterious sounds that you've never heard before. 13 00:00:36,333 --> 00:00:38,583 This is a sound that a ghost might make. 14 00:00:38,708 --> 00:00:40,833 (ghostly voices) 15 00:00:40,958 --> 00:00:42,833 - [Rudy] Photos of a recently rediscovered 16 00:00:42,958 --> 00:00:44,875 Nazi mountain tunnel complex. 17 00:00:45,042 --> 00:00:46,125 Why was it built? 18 00:00:46,250 --> 00:00:48,125 To hide Hitler's stolen gold? 19 00:00:48,208 --> 00:00:49,167 - Somewhere within these tunnels, 20 00:00:49,250 --> 00:00:51,000 this gold is there waiting to be discovered 21 00:00:51,125 --> 00:00:52,708 to this very day. 22 00:00:52,875 --> 00:00:54,958 - [Rudy] And our secret weapon. 23 00:00:55,083 --> 00:00:57,958 Who built this homemade renegade sub? 24 00:00:58,083 --> 00:01:01,042 - The technology employed is pretty high tech. 25 00:01:01,167 --> 00:01:03,333 This is a serious submarine. 26 00:01:03,417 --> 00:01:05,792 (Guardsmen shouting in foreign language) 27 00:01:06,875 --> 00:01:09,708 (film reel clicking) (dramatic music) 28 00:01:10,917 --> 00:01:13,583 - [Rudy] In the modern history of war, there are films. 29 00:01:13,708 --> 00:01:15,042 - Shazam. 30 00:01:15,208 --> 00:01:20,167 - [Rudy] Photos, recordings, and documents 31 00:01:20,292 --> 00:01:22,167 that raise questions. 32 00:01:22,250 --> 00:01:24,708 - So everything about this story is one big mystery. 33 00:01:26,042 --> 00:01:29,750 - This particular footage has caused a lot of controversy. 34 00:01:29,875 --> 00:01:31,833 - [Rudy] What's really happening? 35 00:01:31,958 --> 00:01:32,958 - [Joe] There's so little information. 36 00:01:33,083 --> 00:01:35,583 - Nothing like this has been attempted before. 37 00:01:37,375 --> 00:01:39,208 - [Rudy] That's where we come in. 38 00:01:39,333 --> 00:01:43,583 Our mission: investigate the battlefield's strangest images, 39 00:01:43,708 --> 00:01:45,792 sounds, and more. 40 00:01:45,875 --> 00:01:47,333 - [Tim] This photo blows my mind. 41 00:01:47,458 --> 00:01:50,583 - [Amy] You can imagine how terrifying it would be. 42 00:01:51,542 --> 00:01:54,000 - [Rudy] We'll analyze each with military experts 43 00:01:54,167 --> 00:01:56,333 and try to come up with answers. 44 00:01:56,458 --> 00:01:59,500 - I'm Ronnie Adkins, former US Army Intelligence Analyst. 45 00:01:59,625 --> 00:02:02,417 - I'm Rudy Reyes, Recon Marine war veteran. 46 00:02:03,792 --> 00:02:05,583 The proof starts now. 47 00:02:11,417 --> 00:02:12,958 - Good evening everybody, I'm Ronnie. 48 00:02:13,083 --> 00:02:14,333 He's Rudy. 49 00:02:14,500 --> 00:02:16,667 And we are primed and psyched to bring you some of the most 50 00:02:16,792 --> 00:02:19,875 compelling stories from the world of warfare. 51 00:02:20,042 --> 00:02:21,083 - You know, Ronnie, 52 00:02:21,208 --> 00:02:24,833 sometimes in wartime when things seem calm- 53 00:02:24,958 --> 00:02:26,375 - Something's about to hit the fan. 54 00:02:26,542 --> 00:02:27,208 - Exactly. 55 00:02:27,375 --> 00:02:29,000 Let's go to Afghanistan, 56 00:02:29,167 --> 00:02:31,542 Bagram, in particular, a place we both know well, 57 00:02:31,708 --> 00:02:36,208 to find out why a routine flight ended in a fiery disaster. 58 00:02:36,375 --> 00:02:40,458 The question: why did a 747 fall from the sky? 59 00:02:41,500 --> 00:02:45,292 It's just before 3:30 p.m. on April 29th, 2013 60 00:02:45,375 --> 00:02:48,500 at Bagram Airbase, the U.S. military's nerve center 61 00:02:48,625 --> 00:02:50,708 for its fight against the Taliban. 62 00:02:50,875 --> 00:02:52,417 An Army vehicle with a dash cam 63 00:02:52,542 --> 00:02:54,708 is approaching the perimeter of the airbase. 64 00:02:54,833 --> 00:02:58,708 And on the right side of the frame we can see a massive 747, 65 00:02:58,833 --> 00:03:01,417 National Airlines Flight 102, specifically, 66 00:03:01,542 --> 00:03:03,875 taking off at a steep angle of ascent, 67 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,500 executing a special procedure 68 00:03:05,625 --> 00:03:08,375 called a maximum performance takeoff. 69 00:03:08,542 --> 00:03:11,750 This is where the pilot puts the nose up as far as possible 70 00:03:11,875 --> 00:03:13,625 to quickly reach high altitudes 71 00:03:13,750 --> 00:03:15,667 and avoid the threat of ground fire. 72 00:03:16,667 --> 00:03:18,875 But now, look closely at the video. 73 00:03:19,958 --> 00:03:23,417 Within seconds, the giant plane falls out of the sky, 74 00:03:24,708 --> 00:03:28,667 taking the heroes on board to a fiery and tragic death. 75 00:03:28,792 --> 00:03:33,500 - The 747 can carry about 65,000 gallons of fuel. 76 00:03:33,583 --> 00:03:36,417 It explains the massive black cloud. 77 00:03:36,542 --> 00:03:39,375 That's an aircraft full of fuel burning on the ground. 78 00:03:39,500 --> 00:03:41,792 - [Rudy] Preston Stewart is a military historian 79 00:03:41,917 --> 00:03:43,500 and former Army lieutenant. 80 00:03:43,625 --> 00:03:46,500 - It's difficult to watch because you can't do anything, 81 00:03:46,583 --> 00:03:48,833 and if you were on the plane you couldn't do anything, 82 00:03:48,958 --> 00:03:50,708 and that's hard to see play out. 83 00:03:50,833 --> 00:03:53,500 - [Rudy] Former sniper Nick Irving spent two years 84 00:03:53,583 --> 00:03:56,208 in Afghanistan and knows Bagram as well as we do. 85 00:03:56,333 --> 00:03:58,292 - I've seen a lot of devastating things, 86 00:03:58,375 --> 00:04:00,250 especially in Afghanistan, 87 00:04:00,375 --> 00:04:04,375 but to see one of our aircraft go down and destroyed 88 00:04:04,500 --> 00:04:07,417 in such a manner is something I've never seen before. 89 00:04:07,542 --> 00:04:10,167 - [Rudy] After the crash, the dash cam footage goes viral 90 00:04:10,333 --> 00:04:12,000 and viewers ask the question, 91 00:04:12,167 --> 00:04:13,875 what caused this state-of-the-art plane 92 00:04:14,042 --> 00:04:15,833 to fall from the sky? 93 00:04:16,750 --> 00:04:19,333 The good news, if we can call it that, 94 00:04:19,458 --> 00:04:23,500 is that normally you think of a 747 as a passenger plane. 95 00:04:23,583 --> 00:04:26,792 This particular aircraft was reconfigured for cargo. 96 00:04:26,917 --> 00:04:27,833 - That's right, man. 97 00:04:27,958 --> 00:04:30,750 Using what's called a two-deck configuration, 98 00:04:30,875 --> 00:04:35,167 a typical 747 can carry anywhere from 400 to 500 passengers. 99 00:04:35,292 --> 00:04:38,417 but this 747-400 was reconfigured 100 00:04:38,542 --> 00:04:41,042 as kind of a cargo truck for the sky. 101 00:04:41,208 --> 00:04:43,208 There are only six passengers on board, 102 00:04:43,333 --> 00:04:46,708 but it had over 200 tons of cargo on board. 103 00:04:46,833 --> 00:04:49,000 - That's a major cargo haul for sure, 104 00:04:49,167 --> 00:04:52,667 but wide body jets don't just crash. 105 00:04:52,792 --> 00:04:56,542 And 747's in particular have a strong safety record. 106 00:04:56,708 --> 00:04:58,833 Only 4% have ever been involved 107 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,625 in an incident with hull loss. 108 00:05:00,708 --> 00:05:02,458 So let's check in with our experts 109 00:05:02,583 --> 00:05:04,292 and see what exactly happened here. 110 00:05:04,375 --> 00:05:06,708 (tense music) 111 00:05:07,750 --> 00:05:10,375 Former CIA officer Joseph Assad says 112 00:05:10,500 --> 00:05:12,667 we first have to eliminate some kind of ground fire. 113 00:05:12,750 --> 00:05:15,042 - We saw a lot of Taliban activity, 114 00:05:15,208 --> 00:05:21,667 mortars and rockets constantly being lobbed at the airport. 115 00:05:21,792 --> 00:05:24,292 - It's one of the Taliban's target to-do list 116 00:05:24,375 --> 00:05:26,500 is to destroy an American aircraft. 117 00:05:26,667 --> 00:05:28,875 - [Rudy] And as soon as the word spread of the incident, 118 00:05:29,042 --> 00:05:30,542 the Taliban took credit. 119 00:05:30,667 --> 00:05:32,958 - They thought that this is an easy win, 120 00:05:33,042 --> 00:05:34,500 that they can claim this. 121 00:05:34,667 --> 00:05:37,125 However, the value of having a video like this 122 00:05:37,208 --> 00:05:39,167 is incredible. 123 00:05:39,333 --> 00:05:40,250 - [Rudy] Reviewing the footage, 124 00:05:40,375 --> 00:05:42,167 former Army Lieutenant Preston Stewart 125 00:05:42,292 --> 00:05:44,000 shoots down the shoot-down theory. 126 00:05:44,125 --> 00:05:46,667 - [Preston] In this case, when you're watching the plane, 127 00:05:46,792 --> 00:05:48,750 you don't actually see any explosions. 128 00:05:48,875 --> 00:05:50,667 You don't see anything strike the aircraft, 129 00:05:50,833 --> 00:05:53,792 and the first time you see any sort of detonation 130 00:05:53,875 --> 00:05:55,667 is when the aircraft strikes the ground. 131 00:05:55,792 --> 00:05:57,583 - [Rudy] So the plane wasn't shot down, 132 00:05:57,708 --> 00:06:00,833 but in a post 9/11 world, we have to consider terrorism. 133 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,625 Remember, Afghanistan was Al-Qaeda's home base. 134 00:06:04,708 --> 00:06:06,833 That's why we were there in the first place. 135 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,500 - It could have been a hijacked scenario in which people 136 00:06:09,625 --> 00:06:11,625 stormed the cockpit, took over, 137 00:06:11,708 --> 00:06:16,083 and basically diverted the plane and forced it into a crash. 138 00:06:16,208 --> 00:06:18,500 - [Rudy] But Assad also says that the video leaves him 139 00:06:18,625 --> 00:06:20,167 doubting that theory. 140 00:06:20,250 --> 00:06:22,167 - A hijacker would have a purpose. 141 00:06:22,333 --> 00:06:24,500 We have seen the 9/11 hijackers. 142 00:06:24,583 --> 00:06:26,833 They would hijack an aircraft full of fuel 143 00:06:26,917 --> 00:06:30,500 in order to crash into a target to make a statement. 144 00:06:30,625 --> 00:06:33,333 So it didn't make sense that a hijacker would storm 145 00:06:33,417 --> 00:06:36,292 the cockpit of a 747 full of cargo 146 00:06:36,417 --> 00:06:38,333 only to crash it into an empty field. 147 00:06:39,292 --> 00:06:41,167 - [Rudy] And the tight security within the perimeter 148 00:06:41,333 --> 00:06:42,833 is also key. 149 00:06:43,875 --> 00:06:46,083 - There's a lot of layers of security to get through 150 00:06:46,208 --> 00:06:48,708 for somebody to sneak onto the airfield in some way, 151 00:06:48,833 --> 00:06:50,917 shape, or form, forcibly take over the aircraft. 152 00:06:51,042 --> 00:06:53,000 Never say never, but I'm not aware of that happening 153 00:06:53,083 --> 00:06:56,417 any time in the 20 years the U.S. was in Afghanistan. 154 00:06:56,542 --> 00:06:58,333 - [Rudy] The plane's cockpit voice recorder 155 00:06:58,458 --> 00:07:00,458 was recovered after the disaster, 156 00:07:00,583 --> 00:07:03,000 and it showed no evidence of a cockpit struggle 157 00:07:03,125 --> 00:07:05,000 or of any kind of pilot error. 158 00:07:05,167 --> 00:07:06,208 But the wreckage did reveal 159 00:07:06,375 --> 00:07:09,542 that a key part of the plane's controls had been damaged. 160 00:07:09,708 --> 00:07:11,667 - So what happened was the hydraulic system 161 00:07:11,750 --> 00:07:15,333 that controls the horizontal stabilizer was destroyed, 162 00:07:15,458 --> 00:07:17,250 which then resulted in 163 00:07:17,375 --> 00:07:19,792 the complete failure of the aircraft. 164 00:07:19,917 --> 00:07:21,083 - [Rudy] The horizontal stabilizer 165 00:07:21,208 --> 00:07:24,667 is part of the plane's back wing that helps produce lift 166 00:07:24,750 --> 00:07:26,833 in order to balance the plane's gravity 167 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,667 and center of pressure, keeping the whole aircraft stable. 168 00:07:30,792 --> 00:07:32,875 But what took out the horizontal stabilizer? 169 00:07:33,042 --> 00:07:34,958 The mystery leads us back to the fact 170 00:07:35,083 --> 00:07:37,917 that the plane was carrying cargo, not people. 171 00:07:38,042 --> 00:07:40,833 In this case, a very special kind of cargo. 172 00:07:40,958 --> 00:07:44,708 - The 747 was loaded with five MRAPs. 173 00:07:44,833 --> 00:07:48,667 These are mine-resistant, ambush protected vehicles. 174 00:07:48,750 --> 00:07:50,875 - [Rudy] MRAPs are the transport vehicle of choice 175 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,000 where RPGs and IEDs are a common threat. 176 00:07:54,125 --> 00:07:55,250 (explosion booming) 177 00:07:55,375 --> 00:07:59,000 "Popular Mechanics" writer Joe Pappalardo knows them well. 178 00:07:59,083 --> 00:08:01,208 - An MRAP is an up-armored Humvee. 179 00:08:01,333 --> 00:08:03,000 If you stack two of 'em on top of each other, 180 00:08:03,167 --> 00:08:05,667 it kind of looks like what an MRAP is. 181 00:08:05,833 --> 00:08:09,833 - So imagine five of these in a 747, which is prone 182 00:08:09,958 --> 00:08:13,708 to being sensitive to the weight distribution. 183 00:08:13,833 --> 00:08:16,375 - [Rudy] And it turns out a fatal error was made, 184 00:08:16,542 --> 00:08:17,667 not during takeoff, 185 00:08:17,750 --> 00:08:20,333 but while that heavy cargo was being loaded. 186 00:08:21,250 --> 00:08:24,458 - So here you have an aircraft taking off with five MRAPs 187 00:08:24,542 --> 00:08:26,167 and one of them comes loose. 188 00:08:26,292 --> 00:08:30,000 - That enabled that vehicle to smash into the hydraulics, 189 00:08:30,167 --> 00:08:32,667 destroying the airplane's ability to control itself. 190 00:08:32,792 --> 00:08:34,167 - [Rudy] The sliding MRAP not only 191 00:08:34,333 --> 00:08:35,875 damaged the plane's mechanics, 192 00:08:36,042 --> 00:08:38,000 it doomed the flight's physics. 193 00:08:38,125 --> 00:08:39,875 - [Joe] That would throw the center of gravity off, 194 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,542 that would ruin the weight and balance. 195 00:08:41,708 --> 00:08:44,583 - So the aircraft was not able to get enough wind 196 00:08:44,708 --> 00:08:47,333 over the wings in order to maintain the lift, 197 00:08:47,500 --> 00:08:49,833 causing the engines to stall. 198 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,333 And once the engines are stalled, you're done. 199 00:08:52,458 --> 00:08:55,000 - [Rudy] This avoidable tragedy underscores the importance 200 00:08:55,167 --> 00:08:58,250 of an an overlooked aspect of our military: logistics. 201 00:08:58,375 --> 00:09:01,792 - Armchair generals think of battles won and lost 202 00:09:01,875 --> 00:09:05,125 because of the weapons and the warriors, but the logistics 203 00:09:05,250 --> 00:09:08,333 is what really supports a military campaign. 204 00:09:08,417 --> 00:09:10,667 (tense music) 205 00:09:12,167 --> 00:09:14,583 - Brother, that's a disturbing story. 206 00:09:14,708 --> 00:09:15,458 - I'll say. 207 00:09:15,542 --> 00:09:16,667 And check it out. 208 00:09:16,750 --> 00:09:19,833 An NTSB investigation found that the carrier 209 00:09:19,917 --> 00:09:22,875 omitted critical information in their manual 210 00:09:23,042 --> 00:09:26,417 about how to properly secure the freaking cargo. 211 00:09:26,542 --> 00:09:28,125 - Well, fortunately since then, 212 00:09:28,208 --> 00:09:31,167 there's been a whole slew of new regulations and rules 213 00:09:31,292 --> 00:09:33,667 related to cargo planes like this one. 214 00:09:33,750 --> 00:09:35,833 Hopefully it never happens again. 215 00:09:39,750 --> 00:09:40,958 - War can mess with your head space. 216 00:09:41,042 --> 00:09:42,292 Now most of us in the military are familiar 217 00:09:42,417 --> 00:09:44,042 with post-traumatic stress 218 00:09:44,208 --> 00:09:46,875 and the terrible mental and emotional burdens 219 00:09:47,042 --> 00:09:49,208 borne by veterans around the world. 220 00:09:49,333 --> 00:09:53,042 - Ronnie, I still have bad dreams about my fallen brothers, 221 00:09:53,208 --> 00:09:56,333 but in this next incident, some Vietnamese soldiers 222 00:09:56,500 --> 00:09:59,333 were hearing the cries of their dead comrades 223 00:09:59,458 --> 00:10:00,333 while they were awake. 224 00:10:00,417 --> 00:10:02,500 - It was all part of an ingenious mind game 225 00:10:02,667 --> 00:10:04,292 devised by the Americans. 226 00:10:04,417 --> 00:10:07,333 And the question was, what was behind the ghost sounds 227 00:10:07,458 --> 00:10:08,417 of the Vietnam War? 228 00:10:10,417 --> 00:10:14,083 February 10th, 1970, units of the North Vietnamese Army 229 00:10:14,208 --> 00:10:16,458 are deep in the jungles of Hau Nghia Province 230 00:10:16,542 --> 00:10:18,958 at the height of the Vietnam War. 231 00:10:19,083 --> 00:10:20,833 It's just after dusk when the NVA 232 00:10:20,917 --> 00:10:23,625 hear a series of spine-chilling sounds. 233 00:10:23,750 --> 00:10:25,917 (ghostly moaning) 234 00:10:27,875 --> 00:10:29,292 Let's hear that again. 235 00:10:29,375 --> 00:10:31,417 These are the actual recordings, by the way. 236 00:10:31,542 --> 00:10:33,542 (ghostly moaning) 237 00:10:36,125 --> 00:10:39,833 And it's not just moans, but words in Vietnamese. 238 00:10:39,958 --> 00:10:42,083 (ghostly voice speaking Vietnamese) 239 00:10:47,542 --> 00:10:49,875 - [Ronnie] The voices sound like the wandering souls 240 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,708 of dead NVA comrades killed on the battlefield. 241 00:10:52,833 --> 00:10:54,917 (ghostly voice speaking Vietnamese) 242 00:10:57,042 --> 00:10:58,708 - If I was a 19-year-old 243 00:10:58,875 --> 00:11:00,083 communist soldier from the north, 244 00:11:00,208 --> 00:11:03,708 you've already got a lot of things to be scared as hell of, 245 00:11:03,875 --> 00:11:05,792 and then what do you hear? 246 00:11:05,917 --> 00:11:09,042 The jungle is full of those sounds and voices 247 00:11:09,167 --> 00:11:11,375 that are speaking to you in your own language. 248 00:11:11,542 --> 00:11:12,500 (ghostly moaning) 249 00:11:12,583 --> 00:11:14,792 - [Ronnie] As the troops listen more intently, 250 00:11:14,917 --> 00:11:19,250 more sounds follow, banging gongs, sobbing women. 251 00:11:19,375 --> 00:11:20,333 (ghostly moaning) 252 00:11:20,417 --> 00:11:23,667 And then a clue, an oddly specific suggestion. 253 00:11:23,792 --> 00:11:25,958 (ghostly voice speaking Vietnamese) 254 00:11:29,458 --> 00:11:32,125 - [Ronnie] What was behind these ghostly sounds? 255 00:11:33,583 --> 00:11:34,417 Now, a lot of people believe 256 00:11:34,542 --> 00:11:36,833 that the jungles of Vietnam are haunted, 257 00:11:36,917 --> 00:11:39,625 especially considering that over 300,000 people 258 00:11:39,708 --> 00:11:41,000 are still unaccounted for 259 00:11:41,167 --> 00:11:43,542 just from the period of the Vietnam War. 260 00:11:43,708 --> 00:11:46,125 Rudy, you've spent time training people in Vietnam. 261 00:11:46,250 --> 00:11:47,833 What do you think about this? 262 00:11:47,917 --> 00:11:49,375 - I hate to say it, Ronnie, 263 00:11:49,500 --> 00:11:51,167 but there are aspects of these sounds 264 00:11:51,333 --> 00:11:55,083 that remind me of my experiences both in and out of combat. 265 00:11:57,333 --> 00:12:00,917 This right here, that's straight out of the PSYOPs playbook. 266 00:12:01,042 --> 00:12:02,375 - You're right, it is. 267 00:12:02,500 --> 00:12:04,792 Our experts are gonna tell you how it worked. 268 00:12:04,917 --> 00:12:07,083 (tense music) 269 00:12:08,208 --> 00:12:09,375 (ghostly voice echoing) 270 00:12:09,500 --> 00:12:12,792 Superstition was a powerful weapon in the Vietnam War. 271 00:12:12,875 --> 00:12:16,458 In fact, both sides had their share of ghost stories. 272 00:12:16,542 --> 00:12:18,958 - There's a story involving American soldiers 273 00:12:19,042 --> 00:12:21,792 crawling down a tunnel to find the Viet Cong, 274 00:12:21,917 --> 00:12:23,542 but instead they heard a female voice 275 00:12:23,667 --> 00:12:24,833 calling for them as they left. 276 00:12:24,917 --> 00:12:26,750 (ghostly cries) 277 00:12:26,875 --> 00:12:31,083 And there were also reports from soldiers of ghostly figures 278 00:12:31,208 --> 00:12:34,167 moving through trees, and fanged creatures 279 00:12:34,250 --> 00:12:36,250 who would try to kidnap and eat troops 280 00:12:36,375 --> 00:12:38,000 while they were in the jungle. 281 00:12:39,750 --> 00:12:41,750 - [Ronnie] But the true story of these voices 282 00:12:41,875 --> 00:12:44,500 was a closely guarded secret for years. 283 00:12:44,667 --> 00:12:48,083 It wasn't until 1969 when the first reports revealed 284 00:12:48,208 --> 00:12:50,292 to the public that the voices were actually 285 00:12:50,417 --> 00:12:52,500 part of a manipulative mixtape 286 00:12:52,583 --> 00:12:56,333 that was blasted across the countryside by American GIs. 287 00:12:56,458 --> 00:12:58,417 It was part of a PSYOPs mission, 288 00:12:58,542 --> 00:13:02,042 codenamed Operation Wandering Soul. 289 00:13:02,167 --> 00:13:04,917 - There was a recognition that people in Vietnam 290 00:13:05,042 --> 00:13:07,667 had religious beliefs and superstitions 291 00:13:07,792 --> 00:13:10,625 whereby the souls of dead people 292 00:13:10,750 --> 00:13:14,583 were wandering in the forests and in the jungles. 293 00:13:14,708 --> 00:13:16,375 The American military understood 294 00:13:16,500 --> 00:13:19,000 that that was a superstition that the enemy had, 295 00:13:19,083 --> 00:13:22,542 and that maybe it would provide an upper hand 296 00:13:22,667 --> 00:13:23,958 in the battle space. 297 00:13:24,042 --> 00:13:26,125 (ghostly voice speaking Vietnamese) 298 00:13:31,875 --> 00:13:34,542 - [Ronnie] Former Green Beret and PSYOP specialist Mark Sauter 299 00:13:34,708 --> 00:13:37,625 says one ominous recording, which featured actors 300 00:13:37,708 --> 00:13:41,000 playing a deceased Viet Cong soldier and his grieving family, 301 00:13:41,167 --> 00:13:42,542 was a big hit. 302 00:13:42,667 --> 00:13:47,125 - Ghost Tape Number 10 was the most frightening 303 00:13:47,250 --> 00:13:51,042 and diabolical mixtape ever created. 304 00:13:51,167 --> 00:13:55,167 (ghostly voice echoing) 305 00:13:55,292 --> 00:13:59,500 And it was created by the U.S. Army Sixth PSYOPs Battalion. 306 00:14:00,417 --> 00:14:03,167 - [Ronnie] When first deployed, Operation Wandering Soul 307 00:14:03,250 --> 00:14:05,625 exhibited its powers of persuasion. 308 00:14:05,750 --> 00:14:09,167 The audio actually caused enemy combatants to surrender. 309 00:14:09,250 --> 00:14:11,667 It even terrorized South Vietnamese troops 310 00:14:11,750 --> 00:14:13,125 and civilians alike. 311 00:14:13,250 --> 00:14:16,292 - In one case, a offshoot of Wandering Soul 312 00:14:16,417 --> 00:14:20,667 was playing the sounds of a tiger roaring 313 00:14:20,792 --> 00:14:22,833 near a Vietnamese position 314 00:14:22,958 --> 00:14:25,208 where a tiger had attacked a soldier. 315 00:14:25,375 --> 00:14:27,708 And according to veterans, 316 00:14:27,833 --> 00:14:30,667 this resulted in more than a hundred of the enemy 317 00:14:30,833 --> 00:14:32,500 abandoning that position. 318 00:14:34,125 --> 00:14:36,000 - [Ronnie] However, the psyop could only fool 319 00:14:36,083 --> 00:14:37,333 the enemy's ears for so long 320 00:14:37,458 --> 00:14:39,458 before they eventually tuned it out. 321 00:14:40,750 --> 00:14:44,500 By the early 1970s, Ghost Tape 10 and many of the recordings 322 00:14:44,583 --> 00:14:47,250 from the operation were put out of rotation. 323 00:14:47,375 --> 00:14:50,708 And as we know, whatever impact Operation Wandering Soul had 324 00:14:50,833 --> 00:14:53,292 on the North Vietnamese, it didn't scare them off 325 00:14:53,417 --> 00:14:56,042 from their goal of taking South Vietnam. 326 00:14:56,167 --> 00:14:58,250 (tense music) 327 00:15:00,375 --> 00:15:02,458 So Rudy, what do you think about all this? 328 00:15:02,583 --> 00:15:04,583 It's a pretty original tactic, right? 329 00:15:04,708 --> 00:15:07,833 - Ah, it's clever, but in no way original. 330 00:15:07,917 --> 00:15:11,500 Back in the Philippine communist insurgency in the '50s, 331 00:15:11,583 --> 00:15:14,458 one U.S. advisor helped the Filipino military 332 00:15:14,542 --> 00:15:17,167 leverage the legend of a local vampire 333 00:15:17,292 --> 00:15:20,333 to instill sheer terror in the enemy. 334 00:15:20,458 --> 00:15:22,625 So making use of folklore for PSYOPs 335 00:15:22,750 --> 00:15:23,667 is an established tactic. 336 00:15:23,792 --> 00:15:26,667 - Yeah, sometimes when war isn't scary enough, 337 00:15:26,792 --> 00:15:28,500 it helps to enlist the supernatural. 338 00:15:32,292 --> 00:15:34,625 - Now, if you're American, you know this picture 339 00:15:34,750 --> 00:15:35,833 of U.S. Marines raising the Stars and Stripes 340 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,167 during the battle of Iwo Jima. 341 00:15:38,333 --> 00:15:40,458 Rudy, as a Marine, what goes through your head 342 00:15:40,542 --> 00:15:41,833 when you see that picture? 343 00:15:41,958 --> 00:15:43,500 - Honor, courage, commitment, 344 00:15:43,667 --> 00:15:45,208 the values of the Marine Corps. 345 00:15:45,333 --> 00:15:47,708 But Admiral Chester Nimitz said it best, 346 00:15:47,875 --> 00:15:50,167 "On this day on Iwo Jima, 347 00:15:50,292 --> 00:15:52,750 uncommon valor was a common virtue." 348 00:15:52,875 --> 00:15:56,333 - Well, for Russians and their cool hats, 349 00:15:56,458 --> 00:15:59,708 this picture from World War II is just as sacred. 350 00:15:59,875 --> 00:16:00,708 But the question is, 351 00:16:00,833 --> 00:16:03,875 was this iconic World War II photo faked? 352 00:16:05,333 --> 00:16:08,542 May 2nd, 1945, Berlin, Germany. 353 00:16:08,667 --> 00:16:10,667 In the morning, a group of Russian soldiers 354 00:16:10,792 --> 00:16:13,000 burst through the front doors of the Reichstag. 355 00:16:13,125 --> 00:16:16,083 This is the main government building in Nazi Germany. 356 00:16:16,208 --> 00:16:19,000 It's iconic, and it's a smoking wreck. 357 00:16:19,083 --> 00:16:20,000 When they get to the roof, 358 00:16:20,083 --> 00:16:23,750 three soldiers unfurl the flag of the USSR. 359 00:16:23,875 --> 00:16:26,375 As the Hammer and Sickle flap in the breeze, 360 00:16:26,542 --> 00:16:29,167 a news photographer snaps that incredible photo. 361 00:16:30,125 --> 00:16:33,792 - It comes on the heels of the iconic Iwo Jima image, 362 00:16:33,875 --> 00:16:38,667 And so the Soviets recognize how important that was 363 00:16:38,792 --> 00:16:42,500 symbolically, and they're trying to kind of replicate that. 364 00:16:42,625 --> 00:16:44,625 - [Ronnie] Why is this single photo so important? 365 00:16:44,708 --> 00:16:45,958 Well, remember, this is a country 366 00:16:46,083 --> 00:16:49,958 that lost an estimated 27 million people in World War II. 367 00:16:50,042 --> 00:16:52,000 That's almost four times more than Germany, 368 00:16:52,125 --> 00:16:54,583 and nine times that of Japan. 369 00:16:54,708 --> 00:16:56,500 - The Soviet government was able to show this photo 370 00:16:56,583 --> 00:16:59,417 to its people and say, "It's over." 371 00:16:59,542 --> 00:17:03,375 We didn't survive, we emerged victorious. 372 00:17:03,500 --> 00:17:05,500 - There's a lot of real pride and emotion 373 00:17:05,583 --> 00:17:06,750 that goes into this image. 374 00:17:06,875 --> 00:17:10,125 They're putting the Soviet flag on the Reichstag. 375 00:17:10,250 --> 00:17:12,000 That's the the heart of Germany. 376 00:17:12,125 --> 00:17:13,958 It's the heart of Nazi power. 377 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,000 - [Ronnie] The picture is worth more than a thousand words, 378 00:17:17,125 --> 00:17:18,917 so what's the problem? 379 00:17:19,042 --> 00:17:21,083 Well, today there's people who feel the photo 380 00:17:21,208 --> 00:17:23,792 at the Reichstag was staged, and that aspects of it 381 00:17:23,917 --> 00:17:26,833 were faked with a kind of 1940s Photoshopping 382 00:17:26,958 --> 00:17:29,833 to cover up some ugly aspects of the story. 383 00:17:29,917 --> 00:17:30,917 Could it be true? 384 00:17:31,792 --> 00:17:33,792 - Okay, okay, first things first. 385 00:17:33,917 --> 00:17:37,000 There's a difference between fake and staged. 386 00:17:37,167 --> 00:17:39,875 The Iwo Jima photo was staged. 387 00:17:40,042 --> 00:17:43,417 The real first flag raising, this is what it looked like. 388 00:17:43,542 --> 00:17:45,667 It happened an hour and a half earlier, 389 00:17:46,708 --> 00:17:49,542 but they wanted a better shot for this iconic moment. 390 00:17:49,708 --> 00:17:52,500 So they got a bigger flag and they did it again. 391 00:17:52,625 --> 00:17:54,458 - Now, this Russian photo, 392 00:17:54,542 --> 00:17:56,000 there might have been more going on here, 393 00:17:56,167 --> 00:17:58,333 and our analysts dug into it. 394 00:17:58,417 --> 00:18:00,667 (tense music) 395 00:18:03,042 --> 00:18:04,500 First question about this picture. 396 00:18:04,625 --> 00:18:06,208 Did it really capture the moment 397 00:18:06,333 --> 00:18:07,833 the Reichstag was first taken? 398 00:18:07,958 --> 00:18:10,958 Historian Martin K.A. Morgan says, "Nyet." 399 00:18:11,042 --> 00:18:15,083 - The Soviets moved into and occupied the Reichstag, 400 00:18:15,208 --> 00:18:18,000 and even raised a flag, the day before this. 401 00:18:18,125 --> 00:18:21,042 That was taken down overnight by the Germans 402 00:18:21,208 --> 00:18:22,708 when they briefly reoccupied it. 403 00:18:22,833 --> 00:18:24,750 Then the Reichstag building itself was reoccupied 404 00:18:24,875 --> 00:18:27,542 by Soviet forces once and for all 405 00:18:27,667 --> 00:18:30,792 on May 2nd, at which point it was decided 406 00:18:30,875 --> 00:18:34,458 to re-stage a flag-raising event. 407 00:18:34,583 --> 00:18:35,833 - [Ronnie] What about the flag itself? 408 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,167 Political scientist and U.S. Air Force veteran, 409 00:18:38,250 --> 00:18:41,208 Dr. Sarah Kreps says it was made for the occasion, 410 00:18:41,375 --> 00:18:42,667 a premeditated photo op. 411 00:18:42,833 --> 00:18:44,667 - This is really jerry-rigged. 412 00:18:44,833 --> 00:18:47,333 It's tablecloths that are sewn together 413 00:18:47,458 --> 00:18:49,375 and you can even see the seam here. 414 00:18:49,542 --> 00:18:53,792 They are sewn together to make a flag 415 00:18:53,917 --> 00:18:56,292 for precisely this purpose. 416 00:18:56,417 --> 00:18:57,500 The reason why that's so important 417 00:18:57,583 --> 00:18:59,292 is because this is all symbolism. 418 00:18:59,417 --> 00:19:00,625 This is propaganda. 419 00:19:00,750 --> 00:19:02,583 (shutter clicking) 420 00:19:02,708 --> 00:19:04,667 - [Ronnie] Okay, but it goes further than that. 421 00:19:04,833 --> 00:19:07,083 Remember, the Soviets pioneered the art 422 00:19:07,208 --> 00:19:08,792 of photo manipulation. 423 00:19:08,875 --> 00:19:11,167 They removed party members from photos with Stalin 424 00:19:11,292 --> 00:19:14,083 and Lenin if they fell out of favor or were executed. 425 00:19:14,208 --> 00:19:16,708 So was that kind of trickery at work here? 426 00:19:16,875 --> 00:19:18,000 Well, here's what we know. 427 00:19:18,125 --> 00:19:21,000 When the photographer, Evgenii Khaldei, return to Moscow 428 00:19:21,125 --> 00:19:23,125 immediately after snapping the shot, 429 00:19:23,208 --> 00:19:26,125 Soviet officials suggested he tweak it a bit. 430 00:19:26,208 --> 00:19:28,958 Look closer, and compare the before and after. 431 00:19:29,042 --> 00:19:32,417 - In the revised photo, they pulled it in; 432 00:19:32,542 --> 00:19:34,417 it focuses more on the destruction. 433 00:19:34,542 --> 00:19:35,500 It's a lot darker. 434 00:19:35,625 --> 00:19:38,708 There is no horizon, there is no light. 435 00:19:38,875 --> 00:19:42,792 It is more of a celebration of tragedy 436 00:19:42,875 --> 00:19:45,333 and of the pain that the Soviets had to go through. 437 00:19:46,375 --> 00:19:48,458 - [Ronnie] All right, the Soviets doctored it a little 438 00:19:48,542 --> 00:19:49,500 to make a point. 439 00:19:49,583 --> 00:19:52,000 A lot of people would say, "Big deal." 440 00:19:52,083 --> 00:19:53,208 But look closer. 441 00:19:53,333 --> 00:19:56,375 In the original, the soldier holding the flag waver's feet 442 00:19:56,500 --> 00:19:58,292 seems to have two wristwatches. 443 00:19:59,458 --> 00:20:02,292 But in the doctored final version, he only has one. 444 00:20:02,375 --> 00:20:03,500 Why change it? 445 00:20:03,667 --> 00:20:06,500 - A man with one watch, that's understandable. 446 00:20:06,667 --> 00:20:08,250 A man with two watches is a man 447 00:20:08,375 --> 00:20:10,750 who has been corrupted by Western influences. 448 00:20:11,750 --> 00:20:13,667 - [Ronnie] That's the communist spin. 449 00:20:13,792 --> 00:20:16,000 But there may have been a darker explanation: 450 00:20:16,167 --> 00:20:17,750 in a word, looting. 451 00:20:20,292 --> 00:20:22,167 - Once a city was captured, 452 00:20:22,292 --> 00:20:25,333 the Russian soldiers would be allowed loose in the city 453 00:20:25,500 --> 00:20:26,792 to take whatever they want. 454 00:20:26,917 --> 00:20:29,000 And for every Soviet soldier with a watch on his left wrist, 455 00:20:29,125 --> 00:20:32,792 there were probably nine more watches on his right. 456 00:20:35,208 --> 00:20:37,458 - [Ronnie] Tragically, this goes way past 457 00:20:37,583 --> 00:20:39,000 stealing watches and jewelry. 458 00:20:39,167 --> 00:20:42,625 - The Soviet military goes wild with looting, 459 00:20:42,708 --> 00:20:45,000 and raping, and murdering in this city. 460 00:20:45,125 --> 00:20:48,500 There's an estimate that as many as 120,000 German women 461 00:20:48,625 --> 00:20:49,500 and girls were raped 462 00:20:49,667 --> 00:20:52,000 in the immediate aftermath of the battle. 463 00:20:52,167 --> 00:20:54,042 - [Ronnie] The Soviet's fear news of atrocities 464 00:20:54,208 --> 00:20:57,625 will tarnish their status as victors. 465 00:20:57,750 --> 00:21:00,750 - When you're looting on a widespread basis, 466 00:21:00,875 --> 00:21:02,458 you look a little bit more like a conqueror 467 00:21:02,542 --> 00:21:03,833 than a liberator. 468 00:21:03,917 --> 00:21:06,333 - [Ronnie] So the doctoring of this now-famous photo 469 00:21:06,417 --> 00:21:07,667 wasn't merely cosmetic. 470 00:21:07,750 --> 00:21:09,792 It was in fact a coverup. 471 00:21:09,917 --> 00:21:11,917 - So instead of a looting thief, 472 00:21:12,042 --> 00:21:13,792 you've got a responsible soldier. 473 00:21:13,875 --> 00:21:16,667 And it's a very small difference. 474 00:21:16,833 --> 00:21:19,958 It's almost inconsequential, 475 00:21:20,042 --> 00:21:23,667 but it's extremely consequential because the Russians 476 00:21:23,833 --> 00:21:26,625 were gonna base their entire post-world order 477 00:21:26,708 --> 00:21:28,458 on the worthiness of their troops, 478 00:21:28,583 --> 00:21:30,792 on the right to a seat at the table 479 00:21:30,917 --> 00:21:33,708 'cause they earned it from bloodshed. 480 00:21:33,833 --> 00:21:36,042 (tense music) 481 00:21:37,875 --> 00:21:39,792 - So, staged? - Affirm. 482 00:21:39,917 --> 00:21:41,250 - Altered? - Check. 483 00:21:41,375 --> 00:21:43,083 - Deceptive? 484 00:21:43,208 --> 00:21:46,042 - Well, there's no doubt the Russians earned their victory 485 00:21:46,208 --> 00:21:48,708 the hard way, but this photo seems designed 486 00:21:48,833 --> 00:21:50,250 to cover up some of the terrible things 487 00:21:50,375 --> 00:21:51,208 they did to achieve it. 488 00:21:55,042 --> 00:21:57,000 - There may be no more intriguing mystery around here 489 00:21:57,125 --> 00:21:58,792 than the secret Nazi projects 490 00:21:58,917 --> 00:22:01,250 whose true purpose remains unknown. 491 00:22:01,375 --> 00:22:04,167 - Bro, this next one is the granddaddy of 'em all. 492 00:22:04,292 --> 00:22:07,167 It's a mystery literally the size of a mountain. 493 00:22:07,250 --> 00:22:09,875 What were the Nazis hiding in Project Giant? 494 00:22:11,500 --> 00:22:13,167 August 2016. 495 00:22:15,042 --> 00:22:18,875 A media frenzy has erupted in Lower Silesia, Poland 496 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,958 after word spreads that two explorers 497 00:22:21,042 --> 00:22:24,417 may have made a stunning find in a series of tunnels. 498 00:22:26,792 --> 00:22:30,042 - These seven tunnels are square miles in area. 499 00:22:30,167 --> 00:22:32,708 They have rooms that are hundreds of feet long, 500 00:22:32,833 --> 00:22:35,708 ceilings that are 50, 60, 70 feet tall. 501 00:22:35,833 --> 00:22:37,833 They're basically subterranean neighborhoods. 502 00:22:37,958 --> 00:22:41,083 But what makes them truly enigmatic and very, very bizarre 503 00:22:41,208 --> 00:22:43,958 is that there's virtually no primary documentation 504 00:22:44,042 --> 00:22:48,208 as to what these tunnels were going to be used for. 505 00:22:49,542 --> 00:22:50,333 - [Ronnie] There is documentation 506 00:22:50,458 --> 00:22:53,667 on when these tunnels were built: 1943. 507 00:22:53,792 --> 00:22:55,542 At that time, the Nazis occupied Poland 508 00:22:55,667 --> 00:22:58,875 and over 13,000 prisoners were used as slave labor 509 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,458 to build a base known as Project Giant. 510 00:23:01,583 --> 00:23:03,542 One of the workers' stories was documented 511 00:23:03,667 --> 00:23:05,750 by Menachem Kaiser. 512 00:23:05,875 --> 00:23:08,917 His grandfather's first cousin spent time at the facility. 513 00:23:09,042 --> 00:23:10,625 - Abraham Kaiser was one of the prisoners 514 00:23:10,750 --> 00:23:11,792 who worked on the project. 515 00:23:11,917 --> 00:23:13,250 He was one of the slave laborers, 516 00:23:13,375 --> 00:23:16,375 and he had managed to keep a diary. 517 00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:19,458 - [Ronnie] Unfortunately, Abraham's diary only detailed 518 00:23:19,542 --> 00:23:22,208 where he worked and what his day-to-day was like. 519 00:23:22,375 --> 00:23:25,000 And he never learned the base's true purpose, 520 00:23:25,125 --> 00:23:27,083 which takes us back to the question, 521 00:23:27,208 --> 00:23:30,125 what were the tunnels for and what were they hiding? 522 00:23:31,250 --> 00:23:33,000 - All right, Ronnie, we've got the map here. 523 00:23:33,125 --> 00:23:36,833 My first question is, if Project Giant is such a big deal, 524 00:23:36,958 --> 00:23:39,625 why is it in Poland as opposed to Germany 525 00:23:39,708 --> 00:23:40,667 where all the Nazis are? 526 00:23:40,833 --> 00:23:42,167 - 'Cause the Nazis were arrogant, man. 527 00:23:42,292 --> 00:23:43,250 - Mm. 528 00:23:43,375 --> 00:23:45,125 - See, the Nazis didn't expect to lose Poland. 529 00:23:45,250 --> 00:23:47,083 It was supposed to be a bastion for them. 530 00:23:47,208 --> 00:23:49,000 What they did is they slapped Project Giant right here 531 00:23:49,083 --> 00:23:50,833 into Lower Silesia. 532 00:23:50,917 --> 00:23:53,292 You're so far away from U.S., from British, 533 00:23:53,375 --> 00:23:55,125 and all the other Western Allies. 534 00:23:55,208 --> 00:23:58,625 - Maybe its location is actually a clue for its purpose. 535 00:23:58,708 --> 00:24:00,708 tense music) 536 00:24:03,708 --> 00:24:05,542 - [Ronnie] People have theorized that Project Giant 537 00:24:05,667 --> 00:24:07,708 was everything from a massive occult temple 538 00:24:07,875 --> 00:24:11,250 to a place where Hitler kept his own fleet of UFOs. 539 00:24:11,375 --> 00:24:12,333 That's right. 540 00:24:12,458 --> 00:24:15,083 As crazy as it sounds, there are some who believe 541 00:24:15,208 --> 00:24:18,375 the Third Reich had its own flying saucer project where, 542 00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:21,875 using alien technology, they created Reichsflugscheiben, 543 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,167 a.k.a., Reich flying discs, large, pilot-controlled discs 544 00:24:26,292 --> 00:24:30,000 that could reach speeds of up to 5,000 kilometers an hour. 545 00:24:30,083 --> 00:24:32,458 Many UFOlogists believe these saucers were built 546 00:24:32,542 --> 00:24:34,500 in the coastal city of Peenemunde, 547 00:24:34,625 --> 00:24:36,917 where the Nazis developed the first rockets, 548 00:24:37,042 --> 00:24:38,875 and that the saucers themselves were stored 549 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,708 in the Project Giant tunnels. 550 00:24:41,792 --> 00:24:43,542 - The absence of documentation, 551 00:24:43,708 --> 00:24:46,500 and the absence of explanation has created a vacuum. 552 00:24:46,625 --> 00:24:49,458 That vacuum has been filled by speculation. 553 00:24:49,542 --> 00:24:53,250 There are some people that believe there are Nazi UFOs 554 00:24:53,375 --> 00:24:55,583 in those tunnels, and I'm not making that up. 555 00:24:55,708 --> 00:24:59,167 In other words, in the absence of a plausible explanation, 556 00:24:59,292 --> 00:25:00,292 what do we get? 557 00:25:00,375 --> 00:25:03,750 We get these outrageous, that make no sense. 558 00:25:03,875 --> 00:25:06,167 - [Ronnie] But there's no more alluring explanation 559 00:25:06,250 --> 00:25:07,792 than that Project Giant was meant 560 00:25:07,875 --> 00:25:09,208 as a secret storage facility 561 00:25:09,333 --> 00:25:11,500 for the infamous Nazi gold train, 562 00:25:11,583 --> 00:25:13,625 one of the biggest and most enduring legends 563 00:25:13,750 --> 00:25:15,250 of World War II. 564 00:25:15,375 --> 00:25:17,792 - The Golden Train is an ostensibly legendary train 565 00:25:17,917 --> 00:25:19,167 full of looted Nazi gold. 566 00:25:19,292 --> 00:25:20,333 According to legend, 567 00:25:20,458 --> 00:25:23,167 the Germans had loaded up 44 crates of gold, 568 00:25:23,292 --> 00:25:26,167 put it on this train, and for whatever reason, 569 00:25:26,292 --> 00:25:29,125 the train was diverted and hidden inside of the mountain. 570 00:25:29,250 --> 00:25:31,083 - It was hidden in these tunnels, 571 00:25:31,208 --> 00:25:32,667 again, to avoid detection, 572 00:25:32,750 --> 00:25:34,542 and that somewhere within these tunnels, 573 00:25:34,667 --> 00:25:35,750 this gold was hidden, 574 00:25:35,875 --> 00:25:39,333 and it is there waiting to be discovered to this very day. 575 00:25:39,417 --> 00:25:41,500 - [Ronnie] Has a lost treasure been discovered? 576 00:25:41,625 --> 00:25:44,417 When ground-penetrating radar used by Polish explorers 577 00:25:44,542 --> 00:25:46,375 Andreas Richter and Piotr Koper 578 00:25:46,500 --> 00:25:48,333 discovered what look like a train, 579 00:25:48,417 --> 00:25:50,750 that question captivated the public. 580 00:25:50,875 --> 00:25:51,958 But hold on a minute. 581 00:25:52,083 --> 00:25:55,625 - I just don't see that Hitler would just leave this gold 582 00:25:55,750 --> 00:25:58,500 somewhere that Germany no longer controlled 583 00:25:58,625 --> 00:26:00,917 under the theory of, I'll come back for it later. 584 00:26:01,042 --> 00:26:02,958 That just doesn't make much sense. 585 00:26:03,042 --> 00:26:05,792 - [Ronnie] Those radar scans that look like train cars, 586 00:26:05,917 --> 00:26:08,792 they turned out to be nothing but rock formations. 587 00:26:08,917 --> 00:26:10,375 - And the reality is, it's a myth. 588 00:26:10,500 --> 00:26:12,458 We are clinging to these myths about World War II 589 00:26:12,542 --> 00:26:15,458 that we want to be true that unfortunately they're not. 590 00:26:15,542 --> 00:26:18,333 - [Ronnie] So if there's no UFOs, and no Nazi gold, 591 00:26:18,458 --> 00:26:20,833 could Project Giant have been a place to develop 592 00:26:20,958 --> 00:26:22,583 or store secret weapons? 593 00:26:22,708 --> 00:26:24,792 - There's some wild theories about weapons that 594 00:26:24,917 --> 00:26:27,125 the Germans were developing, creating sonic weapons 595 00:26:27,250 --> 00:26:29,667 that can bring down formations of bombers, 596 00:26:29,792 --> 00:26:32,250 or anti-gravity weapons that will give them 597 00:26:32,375 --> 00:26:33,833 the perfect aircraft. 598 00:26:34,750 --> 00:26:36,500 - [Ronnie] Nazi anti-gravity tech may seem like 599 00:26:36,625 --> 00:26:38,292 stories ripped from a comic book, 600 00:26:38,417 --> 00:26:41,375 but the secret weapons theory isn't such a fantasy. 601 00:26:41,542 --> 00:26:43,708 - The only reason why you would build facilities, 602 00:26:43,875 --> 00:26:46,250 as far as we can tell, with electrical wiring, with sewage, 603 00:26:46,375 --> 00:26:48,708 which are sort of linked to one another by rail, 604 00:26:48,875 --> 00:26:51,625 is if you're intending for large amounts of people 605 00:26:51,708 --> 00:26:54,667 and materiel to be within those facilities, 606 00:26:54,792 --> 00:26:55,958 and you want to be able to sort of, you know, 607 00:26:56,042 --> 00:26:59,708 move them from one end to another, which suggests to me 608 00:26:59,833 --> 00:27:02,167 that this would probably be a place where you would 609 00:27:02,292 --> 00:27:05,292 sort of assemble necessary German war production. 610 00:27:05,417 --> 00:27:08,583 - The theory kind of makes sense because if he can 611 00:27:08,708 --> 00:27:10,500 relocate some of this industry 612 00:27:10,625 --> 00:27:13,250 into these underground facilities in Poland, 613 00:27:13,375 --> 00:27:15,542 would help him prolong the war longer 614 00:27:15,708 --> 00:27:19,292 by keeping the German factories running. 615 00:27:19,417 --> 00:27:20,958 - [Ronnie] The real purpose of Project Giant 616 00:27:21,042 --> 00:27:24,208 may only have been revealed if the Nazis had won the war. 617 00:27:24,333 --> 00:27:26,500 Fortunately, that didn't happen. 618 00:27:29,417 --> 00:27:31,625 All Project Giant does today is remind us 619 00:27:31,708 --> 00:27:34,833 of the scale of Hitler's evil dreams. 620 00:27:34,958 --> 00:27:38,083 - You get like a small taste of the ambition of the Nazis, 621 00:27:38,208 --> 00:27:39,833 and in that sense it's demonic, 622 00:27:39,917 --> 00:27:42,250 and it really does have a grip on the imagination, 623 00:27:42,375 --> 00:27:45,792 and it's frightening and awe-inspiring. 624 00:27:45,875 --> 00:27:47,917 (tense music) 625 00:27:50,708 --> 00:27:52,083 - Okay, I get it. 626 00:27:52,208 --> 00:27:53,500 No gold train. 627 00:27:54,500 --> 00:27:57,042 The structures of Project Giant remain a mystery 628 00:27:57,208 --> 00:28:00,917 and a breeding ground for all kinds of conspiracy theories. 629 00:28:01,042 --> 00:28:04,208 - But with accounts suggesting more tunnels yet to be explored, 630 00:28:04,333 --> 00:28:06,792 this is one mystery that might someday be solved. 631 00:28:10,583 --> 00:28:12,333 - Being away from home, sometimes for a long time, 632 00:28:12,500 --> 00:28:13,917 can take its toll on service members. 633 00:28:14,042 --> 00:28:15,333 - That's right. 634 00:28:15,417 --> 00:28:17,750 Hundreds of servicemen leave their post every year. 635 00:28:17,875 --> 00:28:20,625 Now some of those desertions are easy to explain, 636 00:28:20,708 --> 00:28:23,500 and others are bonafide head-scratchers. 637 00:28:23,625 --> 00:28:25,958 - Like this story of an intoxicated mechanic 638 00:28:26,042 --> 00:28:29,083 who seemingly pulls off an impossible heist. 639 00:28:29,208 --> 00:28:32,417 The question: what happened to the homesick mechanic? 640 00:28:34,208 --> 00:28:36,667 1969, the English Channel. 641 00:28:36,750 --> 00:28:39,208 You're looking at footage from a rescue mission. 642 00:28:39,375 --> 00:28:42,375 A search team is hoping to find a missing mechanic. 643 00:28:42,500 --> 00:28:45,750 Instead, all they find is this big oil slick, 644 00:28:45,875 --> 00:28:48,625 and right here, an empty life raft. 645 00:28:48,708 --> 00:28:51,417 What really happened here is a mystery, 646 00:28:51,542 --> 00:28:54,000 and the woman in this photo is at the heart of it. 647 00:28:55,208 --> 00:28:57,583 It all went down the night of May 23rd. 648 00:28:57,708 --> 00:28:59,375 While most people are asleep, 649 00:28:59,500 --> 00:29:02,625 a 60-ton C-130 Hercules cargo plane 650 00:29:02,708 --> 00:29:06,750 roars down the runway of the RAF Mildenhall airbase 651 00:29:06,875 --> 00:29:08,375 in Suffolk, England. 652 00:29:08,542 --> 00:29:10,417 This is a flight unlike any other. 653 00:29:10,542 --> 00:29:13,625 Not only is the pilot drunk, he's not even a pilot. 654 00:29:14,625 --> 00:29:17,000 The man in the cockpit is 23-year-old 655 00:29:17,083 --> 00:29:20,417 U.S. Air Force mechanic Sergeant Paul Meyer. 656 00:29:20,542 --> 00:29:22,583 - The very idea of an untrained mechanic 657 00:29:22,708 --> 00:29:26,042 thinking he could take a C-130 is unthinkable to me. 658 00:29:27,375 --> 00:29:28,292 - [Rudy] Earlier that night, 659 00:29:28,375 --> 00:29:30,333 Meyer had been boozing at a house party, 660 00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:32,833 becoming erratic and combative. 661 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:33,750 Plastered and lovelorn, 662 00:29:33,875 --> 00:29:36,375 Meyer decides he wants to see his wife. 663 00:29:36,542 --> 00:29:39,250 Except there's a hitch: she's in Virginia. 664 00:29:39,375 --> 00:29:43,583 - He's feeling rather homesick, has a lot to drink, 665 00:29:43,708 --> 00:29:48,583 and comes up with a brilliant idea, and that is to fly home. 666 00:29:49,417 --> 00:29:50,792 - [Rudy] So Meyer goes rogue. 667 00:29:50,875 --> 00:29:53,958 He impersonates a high-ranking officer and calls the base, 668 00:29:54,042 --> 00:29:57,917 asking for a C-130 Hercules to be fueled up and made ready, 669 00:29:58,042 --> 00:30:02,000 and wait for it, the dispatcher complies. 670 00:30:02,125 --> 00:30:05,125 - Maybe when you get a call from a commanding officer 671 00:30:05,208 --> 00:30:07,667 in the middle of the night, you just follow orders. 672 00:30:07,792 --> 00:30:08,875 - [Rudy] With plenty of cojones, 673 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,417 but absolutely no flight training, Meyer takes off. 674 00:30:12,542 --> 00:30:14,292 Retired naval aviator Ward Carroll 675 00:30:14,375 --> 00:30:16,792 shows us why that was no easy feat. 676 00:30:16,875 --> 00:30:19,000 - So in this government training film, 677 00:30:19,125 --> 00:30:22,583 you can see a nice view of the C-130 cockpit. 678 00:30:22,708 --> 00:30:24,208 What jumps out at you right away 679 00:30:24,375 --> 00:30:26,583 is just the number of gauges. 680 00:30:26,708 --> 00:30:28,042 To get the airplane airborne, 681 00:30:28,167 --> 00:30:31,667 you have to know which one of those dials is the altimeter, 682 00:30:31,750 --> 00:30:33,375 which one's the airspeed indicator, 683 00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:34,958 then the attitude indicator. 684 00:30:35,042 --> 00:30:38,208 It's a daunting amount of information 685 00:30:38,375 --> 00:30:39,250 that's in front of you. 686 00:30:39,375 --> 00:30:41,875 - [Rudy] Nevertheless, Meyer begins flying west 687 00:30:42,042 --> 00:30:43,708 towards the United States. 688 00:30:43,875 --> 00:30:46,167 As soon as the Air Force realizes something is wrong, 689 00:30:46,292 --> 00:30:48,750 they scramble a fighter jet and another C-130 690 00:30:48,875 --> 00:30:49,708 to intercept him. 691 00:30:49,833 --> 00:30:51,333 According to the official record, 692 00:30:51,500 --> 00:30:54,083 they never established contact. 693 00:30:54,208 --> 00:30:56,833 Meanwhile, Meyer's contacted someone else. 694 00:30:56,958 --> 00:30:59,792 Mid-flight, the fleeing sergeant places a strange call 695 00:30:59,875 --> 00:31:02,125 to Jane Meyer, his spouse. 696 00:31:02,208 --> 00:31:05,292 As their conversation drags on for 45 minutes, 697 00:31:05,417 --> 00:31:07,125 Meyer's mood suddenly shifts. 698 00:31:07,208 --> 00:31:09,542 He tells Jane he's run into trouble. 699 00:31:09,667 --> 00:31:11,875 Seconds later, the line goes dead. 700 00:31:13,125 --> 00:31:16,417 What happens next is the subject of intense controversy. 701 00:31:16,542 --> 00:31:20,083 But everyone agrees an hour and 45 minutes after takeoff, 702 00:31:20,208 --> 00:31:23,250 the C-130 crashes into the English Channel. 703 00:31:23,375 --> 00:31:26,333 The military says the plane disintegrated on impact, 704 00:31:26,417 --> 00:31:29,833 but plenty of questions are still hanging in the air. 705 00:31:29,958 --> 00:31:31,625 - Rudy, how do you think Sergeant Meyer 706 00:31:31,708 --> 00:31:34,167 acquired the technical know-how to take off 707 00:31:34,292 --> 00:31:37,375 and fly this plane for more than 90 minutes? 708 00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:38,500 - Well, think about it this way. 709 00:31:38,625 --> 00:31:41,292 A pilot could know how to fix the aircraft, 710 00:31:41,417 --> 00:31:42,958 at least the basics. 711 00:31:43,042 --> 00:31:46,833 Conversely, a mechanic might know the basics of flying 712 00:31:46,958 --> 00:31:49,958 and be able to taxi and take off. 713 00:31:50,042 --> 00:31:52,625 All those cockpit dials, they look pretty intimidating, 714 00:31:52,708 --> 00:31:56,417 but Sergeant Meyer could have picked up just enough 715 00:31:56,542 --> 00:31:57,667 to pull this thing off. 716 00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:59,833 - All this makes you really wonder what happened to him. 717 00:31:59,958 --> 00:32:01,333 - Well, let's check with our experts 718 00:32:01,500 --> 00:32:03,208 and see what they think. 719 00:32:03,375 --> 00:32:05,333 (tense music) 720 00:32:07,667 --> 00:32:10,458 Retired officer Preston Stewart has studied the case. 721 00:32:10,542 --> 00:32:13,125 He says many believe the Air Force sent up that fighter jet 722 00:32:13,250 --> 00:32:16,292 not to assist Meyer, but to shoot him down. 723 00:32:16,417 --> 00:32:19,292 That's because Meyer didn't boost just any plane. 724 00:32:19,375 --> 00:32:21,792 He may have taken one with sensitive documents 725 00:32:21,917 --> 00:32:25,750 or technology that posed a national security risk. 726 00:32:25,875 --> 00:32:27,667 - One of the theories put forward is that the plane, 727 00:32:27,792 --> 00:32:30,625 the C-130 that he did take control of, 728 00:32:30,708 --> 00:32:35,292 was operated by or used for the CIA, 729 00:32:35,417 --> 00:32:39,167 suggesting that either some documents on the plane 730 00:32:39,292 --> 00:32:42,875 might be of a classified nature that the United States, 731 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,542 British, NATO, anybody didn't want 732 00:32:44,667 --> 00:32:47,333 falling into the wrong hands. 733 00:32:47,458 --> 00:32:50,792 - Meyer's family has supported that theory for years. 734 00:32:50,875 --> 00:32:53,833 - I will believe to the day I take my last breath 735 00:32:53,958 --> 00:32:55,250 that they took him down. 736 00:32:55,375 --> 00:32:57,000 They felt like they had a right to. 737 00:32:57,083 --> 00:32:58,333 We just wanna know 738 00:32:59,208 --> 00:33:02,000 why the government didn't tell us the truth. 739 00:33:02,083 --> 00:33:05,042 - [Rudy] Journalist MJ Banias has a different theory. 740 00:33:05,167 --> 00:33:08,083 - Sergeant Meyer was most likely not shot down. 741 00:33:08,208 --> 00:33:10,792 The intention would be to try and communicate with him 742 00:33:10,875 --> 00:33:13,000 to give him instructions to land the plane 743 00:33:13,125 --> 00:33:15,083 or ditch the plane in a safe location 744 00:33:15,208 --> 00:33:17,250 so that no one would get hurt. 745 00:33:17,375 --> 00:33:19,333 - [Rudy] The strange call Meyer made from the cockpit 746 00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:22,833 to his new bride back home is also a key clue. 747 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,833 - There's this added mystery where all of a sudden, 748 00:33:25,917 --> 00:33:29,833 he's successfully able to place a call to his wife 749 00:33:29,958 --> 00:33:31,458 while on board this aircraft. 750 00:33:31,583 --> 00:33:33,667 Telecommunications were pretty old school. 751 00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:38,792 You know, you needed to patch the call through radio 752 00:33:38,875 --> 00:33:40,500 in order to make that call. 753 00:33:40,625 --> 00:33:42,667 - [Rudy] In other words, Meyer couldn't have done this 754 00:33:42,792 --> 00:33:44,333 without Air Force assistance. 755 00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:47,042 The contents of his call are also interesting. 756 00:33:47,167 --> 00:33:49,083 Meyer tells his wife he's coming home 757 00:33:49,208 --> 00:33:51,792 and flying low to avoid radar detection. 758 00:33:51,875 --> 00:33:54,208 She was trying to convince him to go back, 759 00:33:54,375 --> 00:33:56,167 but after several more minutes on the call, 760 00:33:56,333 --> 00:33:59,000 the United States Air Force interjects. 761 00:33:59,125 --> 00:34:01,167 - Somebody chimed in trying to get her to keep him talking 762 00:34:01,250 --> 00:34:03,458 'cause they were using that to track where he was. 763 00:34:03,542 --> 00:34:06,000 - [Rudy] Whether the Air Force wanted to talk him down 764 00:34:06,083 --> 00:34:08,792 or shoot him down, Meyer never makes it home. 765 00:34:08,917 --> 00:34:10,833 According to this radar watch log, 766 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,917 the southern radar station loses contact 767 00:34:13,042 --> 00:34:14,917 at 05:48 that morning, 768 00:34:15,042 --> 00:34:18,083 and the plane disappears right about here. 769 00:34:19,042 --> 00:34:21,500 - It's very possible that Meyer knew that his aircraft 770 00:34:21,625 --> 00:34:22,583 was gonna go down. 771 00:34:22,708 --> 00:34:26,333 So instead of attempting to ditch it into the water, 772 00:34:26,417 --> 00:34:30,167 he simply opened one of the doors and leapt out. 773 00:34:30,250 --> 00:34:32,792 And when he did jump out, you know, 774 00:34:32,875 --> 00:34:37,500 he lands in ice-cold ocean water, hypothermia sets in, 775 00:34:37,583 --> 00:34:41,167 it doesn't take long, and all of a sudden, he perishes. 776 00:34:41,292 --> 00:34:42,458 - [Rudy] The United States Air Force 777 00:34:42,583 --> 00:34:46,667 treats this incident as an accident and closes the case. 778 00:34:46,750 --> 00:34:50,208 But 50 years later, there may be answers still to come. 779 00:34:50,333 --> 00:34:53,083 In 2018, an exciting discovery: 780 00:34:53,208 --> 00:34:56,458 the wreckage of the C-130 is discovered by a dive team 781 00:34:56,542 --> 00:34:58,625 at the bottom of the English Channel. 782 00:34:58,750 --> 00:35:01,667 Meyer's family, having relentlessly pursued answers 783 00:35:01,833 --> 00:35:05,792 for all these years, hopes that a planned salvage operation 784 00:35:05,917 --> 00:35:08,292 will finally solve this mystery. 785 00:35:08,375 --> 00:35:10,875 - The plane was, for the most part, pretty much intact. 786 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,500 But why would they tell us the plan disintegrated on impact 787 00:35:13,625 --> 00:35:17,875 when some divers start out within a year, two years, maybe, 788 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,708 or so, and found the plane? 789 00:35:19,875 --> 00:35:22,000 (tense music) 790 00:35:24,875 --> 00:35:27,500 - They never find Meyer's body. 791 00:35:27,667 --> 00:35:29,625 Rudy, that part reminds me of the famous hijacker, 792 00:35:29,708 --> 00:35:30,792 D.B. Cooper. 793 00:35:30,875 --> 00:35:32,292 They never found him either. 794 00:35:32,375 --> 00:35:34,625 - They find parts of the plane and a life raft. 795 00:35:34,750 --> 00:35:37,375 That tells me he might even have survived. 796 00:35:37,542 --> 00:35:39,958 - It's not impossible, but Rudy, you and I both know 797 00:35:40,042 --> 00:35:42,167 that booze, love, and home sickness, 798 00:35:42,250 --> 00:35:44,500 they can make you do some crazy things, man. 799 00:35:44,625 --> 00:35:45,417 - You know that's right. 800 00:35:49,250 --> 00:35:51,167 - Now it's time for this week's secret weapon. 801 00:35:51,292 --> 00:35:53,917 In this case, we're talking about something dangerous 802 00:35:54,042 --> 00:35:56,250 and rare that lurks beneath the waves, 803 00:35:56,375 --> 00:35:58,750 and I'm not talking about a megalodon. 804 00:35:58,875 --> 00:36:00,667 - We're talking about submarines. 805 00:36:00,792 --> 00:36:01,667 But in this case, 806 00:36:01,833 --> 00:36:04,542 what happens when a sub is owned by a secretive, 807 00:36:04,708 --> 00:36:07,500 violent organization that threatens the United States 808 00:36:07,625 --> 00:36:09,667 even as we speak? 809 00:36:09,833 --> 00:36:13,333 The question: how do the secret narco subs work? 810 00:36:15,042 --> 00:36:17,208 (Guardsmen shouting in foreign language) 811 00:36:19,375 --> 00:36:22,250 June 18th, 2019, the Pacific Ocean, 812 00:36:22,375 --> 00:36:24,667 just 200 miles off the coast of Colombia, 813 00:36:24,792 --> 00:36:27,500 a high-speed cat and mouse chase is underway 814 00:36:27,583 --> 00:36:30,208 as the U.S. Coast Guard is in hot pursuit. 815 00:36:32,625 --> 00:36:34,708 As we can see in this intense footage, 816 00:36:34,875 --> 00:36:38,333 a strange submersible vessel is doing its best to escape 817 00:36:38,458 --> 00:36:40,875 while Guardsmen are screaming at it to stop. 818 00:36:43,667 --> 00:36:46,375 Let's give it up for that Coastie getting it done. 819 00:36:47,833 --> 00:36:48,833 The hatch finally opens, 820 00:36:48,958 --> 00:36:51,625 and the captain of this unidentified floating object 821 00:36:51,708 --> 00:36:53,542 throws up his hands to surrender. 822 00:36:54,583 --> 00:36:57,083 But what exactly is the ship? 823 00:36:57,208 --> 00:36:59,500 Former submarine commander, David Marquet. 824 00:36:59,667 --> 00:37:03,542 - Ah, well this is a homemade miniature submarine. 825 00:37:04,708 --> 00:37:07,667 I do know I would not wanna be on that thing. 826 00:37:08,750 --> 00:37:10,583 - [Rudy] This video quickly goes viral, 827 00:37:10,708 --> 00:37:13,000 not only because of the vessel's strange design, 828 00:37:13,167 --> 00:37:14,333 but because of its cargo. 829 00:37:14,500 --> 00:37:20,542 More than 17,000 pounds of cocaine worth over $232 million. 830 00:37:20,667 --> 00:37:25,500 - The cartels are constantly looking for other means to 831 00:37:25,583 --> 00:37:28,000 transport drugs from South America 832 00:37:28,083 --> 00:37:30,625 to the continental United States. 833 00:37:30,708 --> 00:37:34,500 The technology employed is pretty high tech. 834 00:37:35,542 --> 00:37:38,875 - It's estimated that over 70 of these narco subs 835 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,875 will be made this year alone. 836 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,625 - These things are also believed to be moving 837 00:37:42,708 --> 00:37:45,542 about 30% of Colombia's total cocaine. 838 00:37:45,667 --> 00:37:48,000 Now fortunately, the Coast Guard's had the opportunity 839 00:37:48,125 --> 00:37:50,292 to seize and study some of them. 840 00:37:50,375 --> 00:37:52,500 - But what are we really looking at? 841 00:37:52,667 --> 00:37:54,583 (tense music) 842 00:37:57,833 --> 00:37:59,292 How do narco subs work? 843 00:37:59,375 --> 00:38:01,542 Well, former submarine engineer Ken Sewell 844 00:38:01,667 --> 00:38:03,583 says they're not full-service submarines 845 00:38:03,708 --> 00:38:05,583 as we normally understand them. 846 00:38:05,708 --> 00:38:07,667 - Technically speaking, we're looking at what's called 847 00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:08,833 a semi-submersible. 848 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,333 They are, just a little bit of it comes up above the water. 849 00:38:13,458 --> 00:38:15,833 It's just a small amount of positive buoyancy. 850 00:38:15,958 --> 00:38:17,542 They suck air in, 851 00:38:17,667 --> 00:38:19,917 run a combustion engine, exhaust it out, 852 00:38:20,042 --> 00:38:21,917 not unlike a speedboat. 853 00:38:22,042 --> 00:38:24,458 - [Rudy] But as Captain Marquet examines the video, 854 00:38:24,542 --> 00:38:27,333 he sees this design has a remarkable ability 855 00:38:27,458 --> 00:38:29,417 to elude detection. 856 00:38:29,542 --> 00:38:31,583 And that's why it's such an important tool 857 00:38:31,708 --> 00:38:34,375 for the clandestine drug trade. 858 00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:39,375 - It's so low, so it's hard to show up on radar. 859 00:38:41,208 --> 00:38:43,375 I'm guessing it has a diesel engine 860 00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:47,000 because these are probably the intakes. 861 00:38:47,083 --> 00:38:49,833 It seems to be moving pretty well. 862 00:38:49,958 --> 00:38:51,000 - [Rudy] Where did it come from? 863 00:38:51,125 --> 00:38:53,792 We know there's a sprawling international black market 864 00:38:53,875 --> 00:38:56,167 in illegal weapons, but Sewell says, 865 00:38:56,292 --> 00:38:57,292 with these submersibles, 866 00:38:57,375 --> 00:39:00,458 it's much easier to make one from scratch. 867 00:39:00,542 --> 00:39:02,833 - To build one of these, you really just kinda need 868 00:39:02,917 --> 00:39:04,708 a metal shop and a welder. 869 00:39:05,667 --> 00:39:07,500 To bend the metal and weld it together, 870 00:39:07,583 --> 00:39:09,667 it's not really that complicated. 871 00:39:09,792 --> 00:39:12,375 - [Rudy] Still, in order to even operate a plant, 872 00:39:12,542 --> 00:39:14,167 there must be some fundamental knowledge 873 00:39:14,250 --> 00:39:16,208 of how this technology works. 874 00:39:16,333 --> 00:39:19,667 - This is technology from folks who know what they're doing. 875 00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:23,750 You can imagine a former nuclear sailor in a major navy, 876 00:39:23,875 --> 00:39:27,833 Russian, British, French, or American, 877 00:39:27,917 --> 00:39:31,292 suddenly being approached with huge sums of money, 878 00:39:31,375 --> 00:39:35,542 seven digits plus, to assist in this effort. 879 00:39:35,667 --> 00:39:38,000 The cartels certainly have it within their means 880 00:39:38,083 --> 00:39:40,000 to woo that kind of talent. 881 00:39:42,708 --> 00:39:46,792 - There are a lot of personnel from the former Soviet Union, 882 00:39:46,917 --> 00:39:49,208 and I know some of 'em ended up down there 883 00:39:49,333 --> 00:39:50,333 building these things. 884 00:39:50,458 --> 00:39:52,500 I wouldn't be surprised if the North Koreans 885 00:39:52,625 --> 00:39:53,667 even got into this. 886 00:39:53,750 --> 00:39:54,750 - [Rudy] And perhaps the scariest thought 887 00:39:54,875 --> 00:39:57,542 about seeing these types of innovations 888 00:39:57,667 --> 00:40:00,667 is what other nefarious purposes could they be used for? 889 00:40:00,750 --> 00:40:02,667 Why stop at drug smuggling? 890 00:40:02,750 --> 00:40:04,208 - I look at something like that, 891 00:40:04,333 --> 00:40:07,083 and I'm thinking something more of a, 892 00:40:07,208 --> 00:40:10,000 if you can transport narcotics or illegal contraband, 893 00:40:10,167 --> 00:40:14,167 you can transport a dirty bomb, a nuclear who-knows-what. 894 00:40:14,250 --> 00:40:18,042 Something that could cause way more damage than cocaine. 895 00:40:21,917 --> 00:40:24,042 (tense music) 896 00:40:26,833 --> 00:40:29,750 - Recently, President Joe Biden told Congress 897 00:40:29,875 --> 00:40:32,333 these semi-submersibles pose, quote, 898 00:40:32,458 --> 00:40:34,750 "A significant danger to the United States." 899 00:40:34,875 --> 00:40:37,208 - And not just the United States. 900 00:40:37,333 --> 00:40:38,833 Tamil rebels in Sri Lanka 901 00:40:38,917 --> 00:40:40,875 have become the first terrorist organization 902 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,667 to develop these kinds of underwater weapons. 903 00:40:43,750 --> 00:40:45,625 - That's scary stuff, brother. 904 00:40:45,708 --> 00:40:47,375 That's our show for tonight, people. 905 00:40:47,500 --> 00:40:49,458 Until next time, keep your powder dry. 906 00:40:49,542 --> 00:40:50,917 - And your head on a swivel. 907 00:40:51,042 --> 00:40:52,083 Good night. 908 00:40:52,208 --> 00:40:54,417 (tense music) 73161

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