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I wanted to be a Hells Angel
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because they had
that togetherness,
that brotherhood.
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Drinking whiskey,
drinking beer.
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They won't do you wrong
unless you do them wrong.
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In the '60s, they just had
a lot of fun and games
and a lot of partying.
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And then in the '70s,
they became gangsters.
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KERRIE DROBAN: Butch Crouch
was the brutal driving force
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behind the
Cleveland Hells Angels.
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-People were getting murdered,
people were disappearing.
-(GUN FIRES)
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The Cleveland Hells Angels
moved from a motorcycle club
to a murder cult.
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You (BLEEP)
with the Hells Angels,
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they are gonna
(BLEEP) stomp you.
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Bomb city.
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There were bombs
going off everywhere.
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TOM DOYLE: Killing women
and children was beneath him.
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Butch thought that was wrong.
Totally wrong.
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Butch began to question
what he was doing,
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and what the Hells Angels
were doing.
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This culminated in the
most experienced member
of the Hells Angels chapter
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sharing their most
closely-guarded secrets.
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It was devastating.
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He betrayed the patch.
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MAN: Over and over,
they say they are
not criminals,
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they're rebels
rebelling against a society
for which they have no respect.
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We never gave a (BLEEP)
about what anybody else thought.
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We're mostly a bunch
of happy-go-lucky guys
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trying to make it
in this world, you know.
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KERRI KRYSKO: They're misfits,
they're outlaws,
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and they defy
the laws of attraction.
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I don't know,
I idolize 'em, I adore 'em.
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They're my whole life.
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Angels forever,
forever Angels.
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Speaks for itself.
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The Hells Angels are not
a criminal organization.
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Why don't you people go home!
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GEORGE CHRISTIE:
It's an organization
with criminals in it.
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The Hells Angels run
a massive propaganda scheme.
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And the unknowing gulped down
that Hells Angels Kool-Aid.
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Everybody just cool out.
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Hells Angels, everybody!
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JAY DOBYNS:
That is all designed
to hide murder, rape,
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drug trafficking, gun running,
extortion, assault, arson.
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I'm not trying
to glorify my life,
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but I'm certainly
not going to apologize for it.
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I'm doing extreme stuff.
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-For what?
-I'm telling it the way
it really happened.
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I never thought
I'd be talking openly
about this stuff.
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-INTERVIEWER: Ready for this?
-I'm ready.
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MATT ZANOSKAR:
Fifty some years ago, I used to
work around this neighborhood.
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It used to be
quite a neighborhood.
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It changed.
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(INTERVIEWER SPEAKING)
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Yeah.
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I was just going
to the bike show.
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Butch Crouch
was in front of me,
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and we were
walking through the crowd
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because this was our house,
this was our event.
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And it was obvious they come in
those kind of numbers,
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and they're all looking at us.
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No guns.
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But the knives were out.
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In the Hells Angels,
you can't be running
your mouth.
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And some things
some people will not tell you
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because it's none
of your business.
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You ain't gonna know.
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If you're not a member,
you're not gonna know.
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Cleveland,
it was a tough town,
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but it was
a hard-working town.
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At the time,
my livelihood was ironwork.
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I worked hard
and made myself available
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to as much fun
as I possibly could.
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It was 1970
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when I really started
getting into building my bike
and riding my bike.
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(INTERVIEWER SPEAKING)
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I wanted to ride with the best.
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(MELLOW ROCK MUSIC PLAYING)
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They had that togetherness,
that brotherhood,
and they helped one another.
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They won't do you wrong
unless you do them wrong.
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Seemed pretty exciting to me.
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I want to be part of that.
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Can you find me?
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(INTERVIEWER SPEAKING)
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ZANOSKAR: How did you do that?
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You know why?
Because I'm standing
next to a guy
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that's, like, 6'4", 6'5".
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I was standing
on two telephone books,
Cleveland telephone books,
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because I wanted to stand
with the big guys.
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(LAUGHING)
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(INTERVIEWER SPEAKING)
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ZANOSKAR: That's Butch Crouch.
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(INTERVIEWER SPEAKING)
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ZANOSKAR: In time.
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I joined because
of a brotherhood.
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We were one family,
one big family,
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and we'd all help each other.
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You know, it was something
that we'd all grow old
and be proud of,
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you know, a brotherhood.
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DOYLE: In 1970,
Sonny Barger wanted to expand
the Hells Angels nationally,
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so he sent
Butch Crouch to organize
the Cleveland chapter,
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increase the size
of the Cleveland chapter
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and, of course,
increase their power.
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And their power would come
from selling drugs.
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PAT MATTER:
When I first met him,
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I was already warned
about Butch.
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He had a reputation
for being a very serious
Hells Angel and dedicated.
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He had stabbed multiple people
in a bar fight.
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One thing
that sticks out in my mind
about Butch Crouch,
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Butch's girlfriend's dog
was barking.
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He got up out of the bed
and shot him.
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(GUN FIRES)
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She was not happy with that.
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So he took a knife,
and he stabbed her foot
to the floor.
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Not a very nice man.
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DROBAN: Butch Crouch
was born in 1940
in Shreveport, Louisiana
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in the sort of background
that really attracted people
to the biker culture
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and that lifestyle.
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He grew up
in a dysfunctional family.
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His mother was deaf,
his father died.
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So Butch had
a very hardened view
of the world.
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By the time he was 19,
he got into a brawl.
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And he did a few years
in a Texas prison.
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When you grow up in a place
that's economically depressed,
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the Hells Angels
looks very attractive.
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That's their opportunity
to be a part of something
that promises an exciting life.
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I was a detective
in the Greater Cleveland area
for 39 years.
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Over the years,
I've been involved
in investigations
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of the Cleveland chapter
of the Hells Angels.
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When Butch came to Cleveland,
he came here to recruit people,
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recruit good people.
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He had that ability
to size people up
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and recognize aspects
of their personality
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that were beneficial
to the Hells Angels.
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Intelligence,
cunning, loyalty.
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The ability to be violent
at the drop of a hat.
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Fortunately, there was
the Vietnam War going on.
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We finally
have reached the point
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where we can begin to bring
Americans home from Vietnam.
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(SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING)
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DOYLE: You had a sense
when you came back...
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of disappointment.
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People didn't feel
they fit into society anymore
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after what
they'd seen and done.
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You could just leave adrenaline
constantly every day
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just to stay alive.
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And come back here,
and somebody wanted me to work
9:00 to 5:00 at a factory?
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Or I can get a motorcycle
and ride at 90 miles an hour
and party my brains out.
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It's a choice you gotta make.
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Vietnam did help with
the Hells Angels recruiting.
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The bond
that forms in the military,
it's more than a friendship.
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We're a brotherhood.
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There were
a number of other clubs,
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but people coming
from the military would want
to go to the Hells Angels
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because you want
to join the best.
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A lot of Vietnam vets
were in the Hells Angels
at the time.
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Military, one, two,
military, three, four, five.
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He was in the Navy. Him.
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That's about it.
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DOYLE: After bringing in
some new members,
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Sonny wanted Butch
to use the Angels
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to get rid of
some of the other clubs
that were in Cleveland.
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Because each of those clubs
would be selling
methamphetamine.
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So it was about drugs,
it was about territory.
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They would beat them up,
intimidate them.
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They would do
what they needed to do
to take over their market.
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One step at a time,
one club at a time,
one individual at a time.
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The Hells Angels in Cleveland
thought that they were going
to dominate,
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and it was just
a matter of time.
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In 1971,
the Hells Angels got rid
of most of their competition.
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The one that was left,
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the one that was not being
intimidated was the Breed.
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These Breed had been
riding together for a while.
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Around 1970,
they came to Cleveland.
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They put patches on just about
every little Honda rider
all over town.
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They started just building up
their numbers real big.
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ZANOSKAR: That space there
was the Polish Women's Hall.
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It was a Polish neighborhood,
and they would have
events there.
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They decided
to have a bike show
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to show trophy motorcycles,
custom motorcycles.
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The Hells Angels
had several bikes in the show,
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but at the time,
I wasn't a member.
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I was a hang-around.
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I wanted to be
like these guys.
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We came in the front entrance,
and we're there.
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"Oh, we're at the bike show.
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"Oh, good time.
Ah, beautiful bikes.
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"Look at that chick over there.
Wow. Yeah. Hey."
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Crouch was in front of me.
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And we're walking up the steps,
and we're looking around.
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And the Breed
first started coming in.
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I'd never heard
of any kind of rivalry.
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I'm not a member. I'm not privy
to that kind of information.
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MIKE DUGAN:
There was an off-duty officer
working the event.
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He called the district, saying,
"It looks like there's going
to be trouble."
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I was one of those officers
dispatched to help.
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Upon my arrival,
one thing that popped out,
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there were a lot more Breed
than there were Hells Angels.
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You've got to understand
the numbers of people.
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There was one article,
this guy says he lost count
at 124 Breed.
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And I always say
that there was 32
of us there in total.
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And we're going up
to where the rest
of the Hells Angels were.
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And they're all looking at us.
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As we're walking through there,
walking through the crowd.
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And that hall is packed now.
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Butch locked eyes with
some Breed member, he says,
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"You know, why don't you
suck my (BLEEP)? Give me some
(BLEEP)", you know?
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And then the (BLEEP)
hit the fan.
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I saw somebody
jump very quickly,
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and then everybody
was fighting around me.
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They're screaming, some crying.
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The panic.
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Crouch gutted somebody.
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One of the Breed, he gutted him
from his (BLEEP) to his teeth.
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DUGAN: We called
a citywide alert.
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Any policeman
anywhere in the city
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go to Marble and Broadway,
Polish Women's Hall.
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There was, like, 200 people.
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All that energy,
all that violence.
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When you're outnumbered
almost eight to one,
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you've got to watch your back,
you've got to watch your side
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and you've got to watch
the guy in front of you.
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DUGAN: You could see
knives flashing,
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people were
dropping to the ground,
trails of blood all over.
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And the knife wounds
were focused on the back.
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I was a hang-around,
I wasn't a member.
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This was all new to me.
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I mean, there was no plan.
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It just happened.
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We were defending ourselves.
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That was planned.
That wasn't self-defense.
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I've heard from several people
who were patch-wearing members
of the Hells Angels
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that it was planned
ahead of time.
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CROUCH: Prior to
the Polish Women's Hall,
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these Breed,
they said that they were going
to come there to that hall,
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and they weren't going to leave
until all the Hells Angels
were down.
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And we'd heard about it.
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A policeman
had told us about it.
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DOYLE: So the Angels
brought in members
from other chapters,
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Massachusetts,
several chapters from New York,
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and they prepositioned weapons
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inside the hall
a day or so before.
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They had been in the military,
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and they understood
the importance of surprise.
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They knew that they were
going to be surrounded
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by Breed members in colors,
and that occurred.
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But unbeknownst to the Breed,
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there were a number
of other Angels
from other chapters
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not in colors
that had surrounded them.
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So when it started,
the Breed were taken
by surprise,
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and they suffered
many casualties.
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They were men against boys.
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They didn't know
what was happening.
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I kept hitting this one kid,
and I noticed his eyes
was rolling back.
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And I looked up,
and there was an arm
coming down with a knife in it,
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and he stuck me in the chest.
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So I pulled my knife,
and I killed him.
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That was the first person
I ever killed.
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Then I went on,
and I got stabbed again,
and I got stabbed in the back.
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And I woke up on the floor
with my knife sticking
in some guy.
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Then there's a lull.
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Everybody's looking around.
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And naturally,
you hear police sirens.
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There's cops now
coming into the door.
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We put some people in a car,
and we took off.
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DUGAN: There were policemen
from all over the city
grabbing bikers.
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A picture emerged
like something no officer
ever sees in his career.
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NEWSCASTER:
Five persons were killed
and 22 injured last night
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when two motorcycle gangs
fought during a motorcycle show
in Cleveland.
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MAN: I found one
dead on arrival.
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One died on the cart.
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One died for me
on the operating table.
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Obviously, the end score
is what mattered to everybody.
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And there were five Breed killed
and only one Hells Angel.
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DOYLE: The Polish Women's Hall
was about drugs.
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After Polish Women's Hall,
the Hells Angels took over
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basically all the
methamphetamine
distribution in the...
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In the Greater Cleveland area.
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MUHIC: There was a quote
from Sonny Barger that said,
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"In the '60s, we just had
a lot of fun and games
and a lot of partying.
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"And then in the '70s,
they became gangsters."
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After the Polish Women's Hall,
People feared them.
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They established themselves
very firmly as "We're the boss."
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Fifty-six
motorcycle gang members
were formally charged
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with first-degree murder
in Cleveland today,
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following that fight
between rival gangs
at a cycle show last Saturday.
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DOYLE: The problem was
people from either side,
the Breed or the Angels
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would not talk to the police,
would not cooperate.
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They all kept
their mouth shut.
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They were all charged
with multiple counts of murder.
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Some walked away with
one count of manslaughter each
and probation.
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They not only beat the Breed,
but they beat the legal system.
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(BUZZER SOUNDS)
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They went to jail,
and they were there for
about seven, eight months.
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ZANOSKAR: Day after
the Polish Women's Hall,
I went to go visit them.
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Crouch was having
a hard time walking.
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He got stabbed in the back,
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and it took him a while
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00:19:03,943 --> 00:19:06,512
to get the mobility
back in his legs.
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They were reading books.
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(CHUCKLES)
Yeah, The Godfather
had come out.
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(FLUTE MUSIC PLAYING)
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DOYLE: The Godfather
had a big impact
on a lot of people.
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00:19:20,660 --> 00:19:22,895
I'm gonna make him an offer
he can't refuse.
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While in jail, someone obtains
a copy of The Godfather,
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00:19:28,434 --> 00:19:30,036
and it's read
and passed around.
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00:19:32,538 --> 00:19:36,275
They fell in love
with the whole lore
of the Mafia.
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And they were able to take
a lot of those philosophies
and ideologies.
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To become
a made member of the Mafia,
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you have to commit a murder.
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They sit there and look
around the cellblock,
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and they realize
we've already done that.
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They realized
if you have a organization
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where everyone
is bonded by murder,
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the person
who commits the murder
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is not going
to turn on the club.
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That ensures silence
and that ensures loyalty.
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We all became secret
and organized.
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A new member,
when he joins the club,
he has to kill someone.
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He has six months
to roll his bones.
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And if they renege on that,
then they are killed,
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because then he knows too much.
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00:20:25,491 --> 00:20:28,627
DOYLE: In The Godfather,
they make their bones,
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00:20:28,694 --> 00:20:30,396
bikers roll their bones.
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If you're willing to do this,
then you're willing to be
a brother for life.
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DOYLE: It was
a closely-guarded secret,
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new members are required
to roll your bones.
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You're required to kill.
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I was a prospect
for, um, 19 weeks
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00:20:50,616 --> 00:20:53,552
before I got my patch.
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When I got my patch,
I became a member.
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(INTERVIEWER SPEAKING)
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I don't know.
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MUHIC: The Hells Angels
dealt with the Breed,
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but their nemesis
throughout the entire country
would be the Outlaws.
334
00:21:24,817 --> 00:21:26,485
You know,
chomping at their heels.
335
00:21:26,552 --> 00:21:27,987
They want
to be number one.
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00:21:29,188 --> 00:21:31,123
MAN: The Hells Angels
and the Outlaws
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are in a bloody struggle
for the drug and vice trade.
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(OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING)
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They are,
to say the least, well-armed,
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and a lot of
their time is spent
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00:21:45,237 --> 00:21:47,106
going to
gang members' funerals.
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00:21:48,474 --> 00:21:50,509
DOYLE: In terms of
rolling your bones,
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00:21:50,576 --> 00:21:52,311
if I am going
to kill for the club,
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00:21:52,378 --> 00:21:54,613
I'm going to gain status
in the club by doing it.
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00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,249
But I'm gonna
gain greater status
by killing an Outlaw.
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00:21:59,818 --> 00:22:02,988
Then the Outlaw war came along.
347
00:22:02,988 --> 00:22:06,959
And the killings just
kind of got out of hand.
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00:22:07,026 --> 00:22:11,430
DOYLE: To go after the Outlaws,
they put together a taking care
of business fund. TCB.
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00:22:17,870 --> 00:22:20,206
The Cleveland chapter
used that money
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00:22:20,272 --> 00:22:23,909
to travel around the country,
killing for other chapters.
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00:22:23,976 --> 00:22:26,312
If you had a problem,
no matter what chapter
you were,
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00:22:26,312 --> 00:22:28,881
you called Cleveland,
and business was taken care of.
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00:22:31,116 --> 00:22:33,352
They created a murder cult.
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00:22:33,419 --> 00:22:36,589
CHRISTIE:
The Polish Women's Hall
put Cleveland on the map.
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After that,
they had a reputation of
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00:22:39,625 --> 00:22:41,327
"You don't want
to (BLEEP) with these guys."
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00:22:42,494 --> 00:22:44,363
MATTER: I knew
the Cleveland Hells Angels.
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They were serious individuals.
359
00:22:47,099 --> 00:22:50,636
They was known well
for taking care
of business.
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00:22:50,703 --> 00:22:55,207
DROBAN: Murder became
so normalized in
the Cleveland chapter.
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00:22:55,274 --> 00:22:58,010
There were
no repercussions for it.
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MAN: The leader
of the Outlaws found
the bodies at dawn.
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00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,282
He described the scene
as a slaughterhouse.
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They began to want to monetize
this particular skill set.
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00:23:09,188 --> 00:23:11,624
DOYLE: As long as I'm killing,
I might as well make
money for it.
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00:23:11,624 --> 00:23:14,660
So it evolved into
contract murders.
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00:23:18,664 --> 00:23:20,966
DROBAN:
By the mid-1970s,
the Hells Angels
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00:23:21,033 --> 00:23:23,068
became much more
of an organized
criminal syndicate.
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00:23:27,072 --> 00:23:29,074
DOYLE: The chapters
have a President,
a Vice President,
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00:23:29,141 --> 00:23:31,143
a Treasury Secretary,
a Sergeant at Arms.
371
00:23:32,912 --> 00:23:35,281
And after
the Polish Women's Hall,
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00:23:35,347 --> 00:23:37,249
they appointed someone
an intelligence officer.
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00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,456
Intelligence officer
was established back in '73,
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00:23:44,556 --> 00:23:47,226
and it was an office to gather
all the information they could
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00:23:47,293 --> 00:23:48,794
on any club
in the United States,
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00:23:48,861 --> 00:23:51,096
any police officer,
any newsman.
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00:23:51,196 --> 00:23:53,899
Anybody that the Hells Angels
had a grudge against.
378
00:23:53,999 --> 00:23:57,436
And when the new member
was to roll his bones,
379
00:23:57,503 --> 00:23:59,638
the intelligence
would set up the hit.
380
00:24:03,709 --> 00:24:06,011
(INTERVIEWER SPEAKING)
381
00:24:07,513 --> 00:24:09,315
Yeah, you mentioned
that yesterday.
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00:24:09,381 --> 00:24:10,983
(STAMMERS) What's that about?
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00:24:12,251 --> 00:24:13,419
(INTERVIEWER SPEAKING)
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00:24:14,186 --> 00:24:16,021
No, I never told you that.
385
00:24:17,656 --> 00:24:21,126
I never referred to myself
as an intelligence officer.
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00:24:22,661 --> 00:24:24,396
(INTERVIEWER SPEAKING)
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00:24:24,463 --> 00:24:27,199
-You said about...
-Investigator. There you go.
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00:24:31,837 --> 00:24:34,807
DOYLE: Matt Zanoskar
was viewed as one of the people
389
00:24:34,873 --> 00:24:37,076
who was collecting
information on us,
390
00:24:37,142 --> 00:24:38,744
"us" being the police officers.
391
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,884
People don't understand
the ability they have
to collect information.
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00:24:45,951 --> 00:24:48,520
There was a Hells Angel
that was married
393
00:24:48,587 --> 00:24:50,823
to a Cleveland police officer.
394
00:24:50,823 --> 00:24:55,027
One of them
had a girlfriend who worked
as a clerk of courts.
395
00:24:55,094 --> 00:24:57,429
One of them had a girlfriend
who worked for
the phone company.
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00:24:58,931 --> 00:25:00,632
CROUCH: Hells Angels
know a lot of people.
397
00:25:00,699 --> 00:25:03,635
They call them spies
that bring them information.
398
00:25:03,635 --> 00:25:06,105
Numerous police officers,
police chiefs.
399
00:25:06,205 --> 00:25:08,874
They keep a record of everyone.
400
00:25:08,941 --> 00:25:14,713
The person, types of cars,
what girls they used
to go with, families.
401
00:25:16,515 --> 00:25:20,519
DOYLE: I know that they had
information on my family.
402
00:25:20,586 --> 00:25:22,421
They knew where my children
went to school.
403
00:25:23,655 --> 00:25:25,624
Some people viewed them
as a group of people
404
00:25:25,624 --> 00:25:27,960
that were just drinking
and riding motorcycles.
405
00:25:28,026 --> 00:25:29,328
What are you talking about?
406
00:25:29,395 --> 00:25:33,198
You're being paranoid,
but I know those files existed.
407
00:25:37,236 --> 00:25:40,472
REPORTER: Another bombing here
in the Greater Cleveland area,
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00:25:40,539 --> 00:25:42,374
the bombing capital
of the United States.
409
00:25:49,114 --> 00:25:50,883
Bomb city.
410
00:25:50,949 --> 00:25:52,818
There were bombs
going off everywhere.
411
00:25:55,954 --> 00:25:57,356
Both his legs are blown off.
412
00:25:57,423 --> 00:26:01,126
That man
will never walk no more,
long as he live.
413
00:26:01,193 --> 00:26:03,595
There was
a large number of people
414
00:26:03,662 --> 00:26:06,799
that were either killed
or disappeared.
415
00:26:06,865 --> 00:26:09,868
And many of them were
organized crime related.
416
00:26:09,968 --> 00:26:12,905
Cleveland really became
a war zone.
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00:26:13,005 --> 00:26:16,642
In one year alone,
there were 37 bombings.
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00:26:16,708 --> 00:26:18,477
CERMAK: The most
difficult part about being
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00:26:18,544 --> 00:26:20,145
the bombing capital
of the country
420
00:26:20,245 --> 00:26:22,614
was the fact that we were
not putting anybody in jail.
421
00:26:25,117 --> 00:26:27,352
We just kept knocking up
against a brick wall.
422
00:26:28,620 --> 00:26:30,522
DROBAN: One of the
most notorious bombings
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00:26:30,589 --> 00:26:33,959
took place on
January 7th, 1975.
424
00:26:35,828 --> 00:26:38,864
And it will have
an impact on Butch Crouch
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00:26:38,864 --> 00:26:41,967
that reverberates
for a very long time.
426
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,001
(BOMB EXPLODING)
427
00:26:56,548 --> 00:26:57,883
(DOOR CREAKS OPEN)
428
00:26:57,950 --> 00:26:59,351
(BOMB EXPLODING)
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00:27:01,386 --> 00:27:05,090
DROBAN:
This particular bombing
really impacted the city.
430
00:27:06,558 --> 00:27:08,760
A young woman
by the name of Mary Ann Sigley
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00:27:08,827 --> 00:27:11,864
and her two-year-old son
are killed.
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00:27:15,167 --> 00:27:16,602
DOYLE: Was this a random act?
433
00:27:16,668 --> 00:27:19,471
Is this a person who was crazy
out there doing something?
434
00:27:19,471 --> 00:27:20,439
People were horrified.
435
00:27:26,078 --> 00:27:27,479
DROBAN:
After the Sigley murders,
436
00:27:27,546 --> 00:27:30,082
the citizens of Cleveland
were really alarmed.
437
00:27:31,116 --> 00:27:32,818
It, sort of,
woke the city up to,
438
00:27:32,918 --> 00:27:34,553
you know,
we've got a real problem here.
439
00:27:36,622 --> 00:27:39,591
This is the intelligence report
from the Sigley bombings.
440
00:27:39,658 --> 00:27:43,262
One person reported
the sky being illuminated
just before the explosion.
441
00:27:44,997 --> 00:27:48,400
Some of the other witnesses
also reported hearing
individuals laughing
442
00:27:48,467 --> 00:27:50,369
and running away
just before the blast.
443
00:27:52,104 --> 00:27:54,773
The forensic examination
showed some portions
444
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,611
of the explosive device
had military components.
445
00:28:03,315 --> 00:28:05,918
One of the components
was a parachute flare.
446
00:28:06,585 --> 00:28:08,020
Phosphorus flare.
447
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:09,621
That's unusual.
448
00:28:09,721 --> 00:28:10,989
That's military
type equipment.
449
00:28:14,459 --> 00:28:18,997
There have been
a number of large-scale thefts
of military weapons.
450
00:28:19,064 --> 00:28:22,601
DOYLE: Just before
the Cleveland bombings,
and shortly after Vietnam,
451
00:28:22,668 --> 00:28:24,970
people were
breaking into armories
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00:28:25,037 --> 00:28:26,972
stocked with
military equipment.
453
00:28:28,206 --> 00:28:29,575
When the girlfriend
of a Hells Angel
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00:28:29,641 --> 00:28:31,076
informed Cleveland Intelligence
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00:28:31,076 --> 00:28:35,013
about a cache of weapons,
a search warrant was done.
456
00:28:36,448 --> 00:28:38,951
They found
one anti-tank rocket,
457
00:28:39,017 --> 00:28:43,488
one pound
of unknown explosives,
one 1.5 pound block of TNT,
458
00:28:43,555 --> 00:28:45,924
different types
of hand grenades,
459
00:28:45,991 --> 00:28:49,194
and two signal
parachute flares.
460
00:28:52,631 --> 00:28:53,865
There were
bombings in Cleveland
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00:28:53,865 --> 00:28:57,436
where parachute flares
were involved.
462
00:28:57,502 --> 00:29:01,240
It established a link between
some of the Cleveland bombings
and the Hells Angels.
463
00:29:04,343 --> 00:29:06,912
MUHIC: These guys had
armament training
in Vietnam,
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00:29:06,912 --> 00:29:10,048
and they came back
and used that training here
to make money.
465
00:29:13,785 --> 00:29:16,588
DROBAN: The evidence
pointed to the Hells Angels
being involved
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00:29:16,588 --> 00:29:18,090
in the Sigley bombing,
467
00:29:18,156 --> 00:29:20,626
where the mother
and two-year-old child
were killed.
468
00:29:23,395 --> 00:29:27,099
DOYLE: At a later date,
I learned the real story
about the Sigley bombing.
469
00:29:29,368 --> 00:29:31,670
Harry Chakirelis was having
a one-year anniversary
470
00:29:31,770 --> 00:29:34,206
of his ascension
to full patch member.
471
00:29:34,272 --> 00:29:37,809
At that party,
there was a cake.
472
00:29:37,876 --> 00:29:42,080
And it was pointed out
that he had not
rolled his bones.
473
00:29:42,147 --> 00:29:44,716
There was
some hard feelings about it.
474
00:29:44,716 --> 00:29:48,020
The cake was
taken by Chakirelis,
and he said,
475
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,155
"When I come back,
I'll have rolled my bones."
476
00:30:01,066 --> 00:30:04,736
The Hells Angels were at war
with the Outlaws.
477
00:30:04,803 --> 00:30:08,040
And they thought
the Sigleys was an Outlaw
Motorcycle target.
478
00:30:09,141 --> 00:30:10,976
But they had bad information.
479
00:30:11,043 --> 00:30:12,611
It was a mistaken identity.
480
00:30:15,147 --> 00:30:20,185
Harry Chakirelis came back,
and they started calling him
the baby killer.
481
00:30:20,185 --> 00:30:23,755
It was a running joke,
and Harry Chakirelis wore this
with some bravado.
482
00:30:25,624 --> 00:30:27,326
Butch thought that was wrong.
483
00:30:27,392 --> 00:30:28,360
Totally wrong.
484
00:30:29,761 --> 00:30:33,565
Somehow he still saw himself
as an honorable man.
485
00:30:33,632 --> 00:30:36,368
And killing women and children
was beneath him
486
00:30:37,102 --> 00:30:38,837
and it was beneath the club.
487
00:30:40,472 --> 00:30:43,709
Butch also identified
the child victim
with his daughter.
488
00:30:46,645 --> 00:30:48,914
He had a young daughter
of the same age.
489
00:30:51,316 --> 00:30:53,151
MUHIC: He was
a stone-cold criminal.
490
00:30:53,218 --> 00:30:56,154
But one of the pictures
I remember seeing of Butch
491
00:30:56,221 --> 00:30:59,858
was with his young daughter
giving him a kiss.
492
00:31:02,961 --> 00:31:04,529
Somewhere deep down
inside of the guy,
493
00:31:04,596 --> 00:31:06,398
he had
some type of conscience.
494
00:31:09,368 --> 00:31:12,070
After the senseless killing
of women and children,
495
00:31:12,137 --> 00:31:14,172
they're not the same
as they used to be.
496
00:31:14,239 --> 00:31:17,776
It just kind of tore it
and they got away
from the brotherhood.
497
00:31:19,644 --> 00:31:23,148
He's thinking about
the repercussions of it.
498
00:31:23,248 --> 00:31:25,016
And not criminal repercussions,
499
00:31:25,083 --> 00:31:27,352
but he's thinking about
the moral repercussions.
500
00:31:28,854 --> 00:31:32,591
He began to question
what he was doing,
501
00:31:32,657 --> 00:31:34,059
and what the Hells Angels
were doing.
502
00:31:35,861 --> 00:31:41,299
But for Butch
to betray the brotherhood
would have been impossible.
503
00:31:42,567 --> 00:31:43,535
He was trapped.
504
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,408
DOYLE: The Cleveland
Hells Angels
505
00:31:50,475 --> 00:31:53,879
moved from a motorcycle club
to a murder cult.
506
00:31:53,945 --> 00:31:56,681
To be a member
of the Hells Angels
in Cleveland,
507
00:31:56,748 --> 00:31:58,016
you had to commit murder.
508
00:31:58,083 --> 00:32:01,319
Not every chapter
was that a requirement.
509
00:32:01,386 --> 00:32:05,557
And the irony of all ironies,
Butch helped create
that requirement.
510
00:32:07,626 --> 00:32:11,396
In many ways,
Butch Crouch was a victim
of his own creation.
511
00:32:13,432 --> 00:32:18,837
It kind of evolved all into
just one big organization
for profit.
512
00:32:18,904 --> 00:32:21,273
And it got away
from the brotherhood.
513
00:32:21,273 --> 00:32:24,609
And now, uh,
it's nothing to kill anybody.
514
00:32:24,676 --> 00:32:26,511
They've perfected it.
515
00:32:26,578 --> 00:32:28,513
Their killing skills,
their intelligence,
516
00:32:28,513 --> 00:32:30,282
they've perfected everything.
517
00:32:39,758 --> 00:32:42,627
MATTER: Someone from Cleveland
had come up and stayed
518
00:32:42,627 --> 00:32:44,129
with the
Minnesota Hells Angels.
519
00:32:45,263 --> 00:32:46,665
They was worried about Butch.
520
00:32:47,866 --> 00:32:49,534
He tells me
"We can't find Butch.
521
00:32:49,601 --> 00:32:51,803
"We haven't seen him
since, uh, USA run."
522
00:32:53,405 --> 00:32:55,507
He's been gone that long.
523
00:32:55,607 --> 00:32:57,509
They was very worried about it,
I should say.
524
00:33:01,146 --> 00:33:05,684
DOYLE: Originally,
Sonny Barger had sent
Butch Crouch to Cleveland.
525
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:09,988
So he seeks out his mentor,
his hero in Tennessee.
526
00:33:10,555 --> 00:33:11,623
And they speak.
527
00:33:14,025 --> 00:33:16,027
CHRISTIE: Sonny said,
528
00:33:16,027 --> 00:33:19,364
"We're all in it
for ourselves now,
so do what you gotta do."
529
00:33:21,299 --> 00:33:24,002
Sonny tells him
"There is no brotherhood.
530
00:33:24,669 --> 00:33:25,804
"Take the money and run
531
00:33:25,871 --> 00:33:28,807
"because one day,
this is all going to collapse,
532
00:33:28,874 --> 00:33:31,510
"and only those with money
will not be in prison."
533
00:33:32,477 --> 00:33:34,512
His world is shattered.
534
00:33:34,579 --> 00:33:37,482
He's hearing from the leader
of the Hells Angels
535
00:33:37,549 --> 00:33:40,986
that everything
that you thought
you believed in,
536
00:33:40,986 --> 00:33:44,189
all the ideals that you really
pledged your life for
537
00:33:44,256 --> 00:33:45,490
really never existed.
538
00:33:47,392 --> 00:33:49,661
DOYLE: That's the thing
that pushed him over the edge.
539
00:33:53,999 --> 00:33:56,134
Tell the guards to let people in
quick as you can.
540
00:33:56,201 --> 00:33:57,402
We've got to get started.
541
00:33:58,770 --> 00:34:00,639
(TENSE MUSIC PLAYING)
542
00:34:03,475 --> 00:34:05,911
DOYLE: Butch Crouch
turned himself in
543
00:34:06,011 --> 00:34:09,414
and told of the crimes
he had committed
with the Hells Angels.
544
00:34:11,483 --> 00:34:13,385
(INTERVIEWER SPEAKING)
545
00:34:18,423 --> 00:34:21,726
It was devastating.
It was devastating.
546
00:34:21,793 --> 00:34:26,364
It almost started fights
amongst the members
547
00:34:26,431 --> 00:34:31,469
because they had faith in him,
and he betrayed...
548
00:34:32,971 --> 00:34:37,442
the patch
and the people that wore it.
549
00:34:40,445 --> 00:34:43,214
MATTER: Cleveland was
very worried about Butch.
550
00:34:43,281 --> 00:34:46,051
I mean, most of them
would be looking at life.
Everybody would.
551
00:34:46,117 --> 00:34:48,019
You know,
so there was real concern.
552
00:34:49,588 --> 00:34:54,793
We sent an attorney and one of
our members to Washington, DC
553
00:34:54,859 --> 00:34:57,429
to listen for themselves.
554
00:34:57,495 --> 00:35:02,033
And they had him distorted
so you couldn't see his face
and all this.
555
00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:07,439
But it was Clarence Crouch
giving testimony to Congress.
556
00:35:14,045 --> 00:35:16,848
Hells Angel has
a memory like an elephant.
557
00:35:16,915 --> 00:35:18,717
And he never forgets.
558
00:35:18,817 --> 00:35:21,353
If they have
a grievance with somebody,
it never ends.
559
00:35:23,188 --> 00:35:25,991
He testified that drugs,
torture, rape
and kidnapping
560
00:35:25,991 --> 00:35:28,727
are part of everyday life
in the Hells Angels.
561
00:35:28,793 --> 00:35:31,930
That murder
is a requirement
for membership.
562
00:35:31,997 --> 00:35:34,366
Have you abandoned
the Hells Angels now?
563
00:35:34,432 --> 00:35:35,667
-CROUCH: Oh, yes.
-Entirely?
564
00:35:35,667 --> 00:35:36,801
-CROUCH: Oh, yes, completely.
-For life?
565
00:35:36,868 --> 00:35:38,636
CROUCH: Oh, yes.
566
00:35:38,703 --> 00:35:41,906
Butch walked in,
and he gave them everything.
567
00:35:42,007 --> 00:35:45,644
They didn't have a case on him
when he decided to roll.
568
00:35:45,710 --> 00:35:47,412
He just rolled.
569
00:35:47,479 --> 00:35:50,081
And so that's
a pretty powerful statement.
570
00:35:51,483 --> 00:35:53,385
DOYLE: He didn't
rat anybody out.
571
00:35:53,451 --> 00:35:55,487
A rat is a person
who tells on somebody
572
00:35:55,553 --> 00:35:56,721
to get out
of the problems they're in.
573
00:35:56,788 --> 00:35:59,591
He was in no problem.
He told on himself.
574
00:35:59,658 --> 00:36:02,961
He told about the other murders
and he told on the murders
he committed, too.
575
00:36:03,028 --> 00:36:04,229
And he went to prison for that.
576
00:36:04,329 --> 00:36:06,164
He didn't have to.
He could have walked away
from the club
577
00:36:06,231 --> 00:36:07,866
and not said a word.
578
00:36:07,866 --> 00:36:09,434
So he's not a rat.
579
00:36:09,434 --> 00:36:12,237
He's a person
trying to save his soul
somehow, in some way.
580
00:36:14,339 --> 00:36:18,076
When something
of that gravity happens,
581
00:36:18,076 --> 00:36:21,046
it sends ripples and rumors
through the club,
582
00:36:21,112 --> 00:36:23,748
and everybody starts thinking,
583
00:36:23,848 --> 00:36:27,318
"If a guy like him flips,
who in the hell is next?"
584
00:36:29,187 --> 00:36:33,124
CERMAK: This was probably
the most significant
accomplishment
585
00:36:33,191 --> 00:36:36,394
regarding outlaw motorcycle
gangs in the country.
586
00:36:38,196 --> 00:36:42,233
It helped us put together
some criminal prosecutions.
587
00:36:48,673 --> 00:36:50,508
(INTERVIEWER SPEAKING)
588
00:36:52,277 --> 00:36:53,745
I don't know nothing about it,
589
00:36:53,845 --> 00:36:56,281
except later on,
some people got charged with it.
590
00:36:58,083 --> 00:36:59,384
(INTERVIEWER SPEAKING)
591
00:36:59,484 --> 00:37:01,553
Hells Angels
were charged with it.
592
00:37:04,055 --> 00:37:08,359
DOYLE: Butch testified
against Harry Chakirelis
in the Sigley bombing trial,
593
00:37:08,426 --> 00:37:10,995
but the case was pretty strong
without his testimony.
594
00:37:12,430 --> 00:37:14,699
CERMAK: When the Angels
were found...
595
00:37:16,101 --> 00:37:19,471
not guilty,
it was kind of a shock.
596
00:37:22,273 --> 00:37:26,177
There wasn't enough evidence
to proceed with the prosecution
of the case.
597
00:37:28,113 --> 00:37:29,514
DOYLE: We couldn't believe it.
598
00:37:30,782 --> 00:37:33,451
We should have suspected
something was afoot.
599
00:37:41,292 --> 00:37:44,762
CERMAK: The presiding judge
Rule 29'd the case,
600
00:37:44,829 --> 00:37:46,231
which means
that he determined
601
00:37:46,297 --> 00:37:49,801
that there was not
sufficient evidence to convict,
602
00:37:49,868 --> 00:37:51,870
and he made
that decision on his own.
603
00:37:53,471 --> 00:37:56,040
The judge in the case
was James J. McGettrick.
604
00:37:58,276 --> 00:38:01,513
DOYLE: Judge McGettrick
is in a bar a day or two
after this trial,
605
00:38:01,513 --> 00:38:02,480
this verdict.
606
00:38:03,481 --> 00:38:05,150
And he's drinking.
607
00:38:05,250 --> 00:38:06,718
He gets up
and goes to the bathroom.
608
00:38:09,587 --> 00:38:11,990
An ATF agent
who worked undercover a lot,
609
00:38:12,056 --> 00:38:16,528
he goes into the bathroom,
and he makes a comment
to the judge
610
00:38:16,594 --> 00:38:18,596
"Good job you did
with the Hells Angels."
611
00:38:19,964 --> 00:38:21,833
To which the judge responds,
612
00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:23,401
"Well, thank you,
but they haven't paid me
613
00:38:23,468 --> 00:38:25,003
"all the money yet."
(CHUCKLES)
614
00:38:28,106 --> 00:38:30,875
I'd love to say
it was great planning
and investigative work,
615
00:38:30,942 --> 00:38:34,679
but it was
sheer luck and alcohol.
616
00:38:37,115 --> 00:38:39,150
REPORTER: James McGettrick
is running for re-election,
617
00:38:39,217 --> 00:38:40,585
and his indictment for bribery
618
00:38:40,685 --> 00:38:43,688
could not have come
at a worse time for him.
619
00:38:43,755 --> 00:38:47,525
He's been criticized frequently
for dismissing cases.
620
00:38:47,592 --> 00:38:53,998
Further investigation
revealed $6,500 was used
by the Hells Angels
621
00:38:54,065 --> 00:38:58,670
to bribe Judge McGettrick
to fix the Sigley bombing case.
622
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:06,878
ZANOSKAR: The story came out
about he took a bribe
to make that Rule 29.
623
00:39:06,878 --> 00:39:08,246
(INTERVIEWER SPEAKING)
624
00:39:09,747 --> 00:39:11,082
Don't know.
625
00:39:11,149 --> 00:39:14,118
-(INTERVIEWER SPEAKING)
-Don't know.
626
00:39:15,854 --> 00:39:18,957
But what pissed me off
about that was
627
00:39:20,658 --> 00:39:24,562
they shortchanged the judge.
628
00:39:25,830 --> 00:39:31,369
Somebody shortchanged the judge.
629
00:39:31,436 --> 00:39:36,274
And to this day,
I have no idea who it was.
630
00:39:36,274 --> 00:39:39,244
That would have never
probably been found out
631
00:39:39,310 --> 00:39:42,814
had the judge
not been shortchanged.
632
00:39:46,284 --> 00:39:48,319
DOYLE: Well, going back
to the Polish Women's Hall,
633
00:39:48,386 --> 00:39:50,355
Butch said
they paid off the judges.
634
00:39:51,422 --> 00:39:52,924
Yes, they'd been
doing that all along.
635
00:39:54,425 --> 00:39:57,562
And Judge McGettrick
is the proof.
636
00:39:57,629 --> 00:40:00,832
He stood in court and admitted
he took bribes
637
00:40:00,898 --> 00:40:02,033
to let murderers off.
638
00:40:05,503 --> 00:40:07,005
The Hells Angels
were getting away with murder.
639
00:40:12,910 --> 00:40:16,748
DROBAN: Without Butch,
we may never have
learned any of this.
640
00:40:16,848 --> 00:40:20,518
Butch did reveal the acts
of the Hells Angels.
641
00:40:20,585 --> 00:40:22,720
He did spill their secrets.
642
00:40:24,322 --> 00:40:26,291
He did the right thing.
643
00:40:38,236 --> 00:40:40,238
He's relocated to Texas,
644
00:40:40,305 --> 00:40:43,107
and he lives
a very unassuming life.
645
00:40:44,742 --> 00:40:48,479
He remarries,
and he suffers from ill health.
646
00:40:48,546 --> 00:40:51,049
Always worried
that the Hells Angels
647
00:40:51,115 --> 00:40:53,918
are gonna exact revenge
for his betrayal.
648
00:40:56,054 --> 00:40:59,357
DOYLE: We would
speak on the phone
on a large number of occasions.
649
00:41:00,024 --> 00:41:01,025
We were friendly.
650
00:41:02,293 --> 00:41:04,996
We talked about
where he was at.
651
00:41:05,063 --> 00:41:06,631
He seemed to be
a likable person.
652
00:41:07,865 --> 00:41:12,437
At one point,
we made arrangements
to go fishing.
653
00:41:12,503 --> 00:41:16,808
Authorities have identified
the victims in an apparent
double murder suicide.
654
00:41:16,874 --> 00:41:21,179
85-year-old Vivian Dome
and her son, 61-year-old
Willard Landry,
655
00:41:21,245 --> 00:41:23,548
were found Monday morning
inside their burning home.
656
00:41:23,648 --> 00:41:27,585
73-year-old Paul Dome
was found in a nearby vehicle.
657
00:41:39,831 --> 00:41:41,666
DOYLE:
Before Butch Crouch
came forward,
658
00:41:41,733 --> 00:41:45,169
law enforcement
did not understand the world
of the Hells Angels.
659
00:41:46,504 --> 00:41:48,673
Butch's information
provided a road map,
660
00:41:48,673 --> 00:41:51,876
an overview of how
the Hells Angels operated.
661
00:41:51,876 --> 00:41:55,346
He was the first Hells Angel
to give law enforcement
662
00:41:55,446 --> 00:42:00,118
a complete understanding
of how this criminal
organization operated.
663
00:42:00,184 --> 00:42:01,753
That was his legacy.
664
00:42:05,923 --> 00:42:07,525
DOYLE: When he passed,
665
00:42:07,592 --> 00:42:11,028
I was told there actually
was a party celebrating
his, his demise
666
00:42:12,030 --> 00:42:13,398
by the Hells Angels.
667
00:42:15,466 --> 00:42:17,835
INTERVIEWER: How did you feel
when you heard that he died?
668
00:42:24,409 --> 00:42:25,443
It's over.
669
00:42:27,879 --> 00:42:32,016
He killed his wife
and killed himself,
670
00:42:33,384 --> 00:42:35,019
and put the house on fire.
671
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:36,687
It was over. The end.
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