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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,167 --> 00:00:03,628 [air whooshing] 2 00:00:03,628 --> 00:00:05,422 [♪ "Runaway" by Bon Jovi playing] 3 00:00:05,422 --> 00:00:07,424 ♪ Girls talk about their social lives ♪ 4 00:00:09,342 --> 00:00:11,845 ♪ They're made of lipstick, plastic, and paint ♪ 5 00:00:11,845 --> 00:00:14,681 ♪ A touch of sable in their eyes ♪ 6 00:00:15,140 --> 00:00:16,307 [audience cheering] 7 00:00:16,307 --> 00:00:17,934 ♪ All your life all you've asked ♪ 8 00:00:17,934 --> 00:00:20,520 ♪ When's your daddy gonna talk to you ♪ 9 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:21,813 [audience cheering] 10 00:00:21,813 --> 00:00:26,985 ♪ Ooh, she's a little runaway ♪ 11 00:00:26,985 --> 00:00:28,737 [host 1] [on radio] Welcome and will now announce-- 12 00:00:29,696 --> 00:00:31,406 [host 2] [on radio] He's one of those fortunate guys 13 00:00:31,406 --> 00:00:32,907 who is so full of himself 14 00:00:33,033 --> 00:00:34,409 and he's got loads of self-confidence 15 00:00:34,409 --> 00:00:36,077 that nothing will hold him back. 16 00:00:36,327 --> 00:00:38,913 He's got his debut out now, it's selling extremely well. 17 00:00:38,913 --> 00:00:41,082 - A very big warm welcome to you, Jon. - [Jon Bon Jovi] Thank you. 18 00:00:41,082 --> 00:00:42,834 [radio host] Nice to see you. How old are you, Jon? 19 00:00:42,834 --> 00:00:44,210 - [Jon] I'm 22. - [radio host] Right age. 20 00:00:44,210 --> 00:00:45,295 [both laughing] 21 00:00:46,838 --> 00:00:48,840 [radio host] Okay, so you grew up in New Jersey. 22 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,717 Had you always been into rock music? 23 00:00:50,717 --> 00:00:52,594 {\an8}[Jon] Oh, yeah, sure. I think since, uh, 24 00:00:52,594 --> 00:00:54,179 {\an8}you know, I've always said I was born with sunglasses 25 00:00:54,179 --> 00:00:55,430 {\an8}and a guitar. 26 00:00:55,430 --> 00:00:56,848 {\an8}You know, I mean, I've been playing 27 00:00:56,848 --> 00:00:58,308 since I can remember. 28 00:00:58,308 --> 00:01:00,060 [radio host] What were your parents' reactions 29 00:01:00,060 --> 00:01:01,144 when you decided you were gonna go 30 00:01:01,144 --> 00:01:02,645 into rock and roll music? 31 00:01:02,645 --> 00:01:03,980 [Jon] They probably thought we were crazy, you know, 32 00:01:03,980 --> 00:01:05,565 wondering like, "Why don't you get a real job, 33 00:01:05,565 --> 00:01:06,691 make some money." 34 00:01:06,691 --> 00:01:08,401 [Jon laughing] 35 00:01:09,903 --> 00:01:12,781 [♪ soft music playing] 36 00:01:16,534 --> 00:01:18,328 This is our high-tech setup. 37 00:01:19,496 --> 00:01:21,748 I've spent the last week or 10 days 38 00:01:22,165 --> 00:01:25,251 going through archiving a lot of cassettes. 39 00:01:26,002 --> 00:01:27,337 Here's what we found. 40 00:01:27,712 --> 00:01:29,506 All this was in boxes. 41 00:01:30,799 --> 00:01:33,802 I wanted to do it because of the 40th, 42 00:01:34,219 --> 00:01:36,012 but if I was 100% healthy, 43 00:01:36,012 --> 00:01:38,723 I probably wouldn't be paying as close attention. 44 00:01:39,474 --> 00:01:43,061 Here's Blaze of Glory, the writing session. 45 00:01:45,146 --> 00:01:47,190 So here's Runaway before there was a band. 46 00:01:48,066 --> 00:01:50,443 This has a song that I was writing 47 00:01:50,443 --> 00:01:52,570 for the Tom Cruise movie, 48 00:01:52,570 --> 00:01:55,573 Days of Thunder, and I wrote on it, "not good." 49 00:01:55,573 --> 00:01:56,908 [laughs] 50 00:01:57,992 --> 00:02:03,248 {\an8}It's validated for me the, uh, body of work is legit, 51 00:02:03,248 --> 00:02:05,875 {\an8}but more importantly, it got better. 52 00:02:09,420 --> 00:02:10,713 This is cool 53 00:02:10,713 --> 00:02:12,924 because it's the first time we ever played there. 54 00:02:15,343 --> 00:02:18,763 [cassette player clicking] 55 00:02:18,763 --> 00:02:20,598 That's us walking to the stage. 56 00:02:24,269 --> 00:02:26,020 [♪ "Lay Your Hands On Me" by Bon Jovi plays on video] 57 00:02:26,020 --> 00:02:27,438 Kid's a little excited. 58 00:02:33,194 --> 00:02:34,988 The first time we played Giants Stadium, 59 00:02:35,530 --> 00:02:37,198 you know, it was as big as it got. 60 00:02:37,699 --> 00:02:40,326 [audience cheering] 61 00:02:40,451 --> 00:02:43,288 [♪ "Lay Your Hands On Me" continues playing] 62 00:02:46,583 --> 00:02:48,710 {\an8}♪ They say that to be able to free your body ♪ 63 00:02:48,918 --> 00:02:51,254 {\an8}[audience cheering] 64 00:02:51,254 --> 00:02:53,339 {\an8}♪ You gotta free your mind ♪ 65 00:02:54,507 --> 00:02:56,009 ♪ So come on ♪ 66 00:03:01,222 --> 00:03:02,473 ♪ Check this out ♪ 67 00:03:03,224 --> 00:03:07,395 ♪ 68 00:03:08,229 --> 00:03:10,940 [audience cheering] 69 00:03:15,361 --> 00:03:17,322 [news reporter 1] One of the hottest tickets around tonight 70 00:03:17,322 --> 00:03:19,866 was to see the world's hottest rock group. 71 00:03:19,866 --> 00:03:21,701 Bon Jovi records have been selling by the millions, 72 00:03:21,951 --> 00:03:23,494 and his concerts have been selling out. 73 00:03:23,494 --> 00:03:26,915 ♪ If you're ready, I'm willing and able ♪ 74 00:03:26,915 --> 00:03:29,083 [news reporter 2] Bon Jovi has been riding high 75 00:03:29,083 --> 00:03:31,336 since their album Slippery When Wet 76 00:03:31,336 --> 00:03:34,505 sold 14 million copies around the world. 77 00:03:34,672 --> 00:03:36,007 ♪ For the taking ♪ 78 00:03:37,091 --> 00:03:40,345 ♪ The rules we've made are meant for breaking ♪ 79 00:03:41,512 --> 00:03:44,641 ♪ What you get ain't always what you see ♪ 80 00:03:45,975 --> 00:03:47,977 ♪ But satisfaction is guaranteed ♪ 81 00:03:48,102 --> 00:03:49,479 [interviewer 1] You're knocking down records 82 00:03:49,604 --> 00:03:51,314 that've been there for years. 83 00:03:51,314 --> 00:03:52,815 Does that frighten you? 84 00:03:52,982 --> 00:03:55,944 [Jon] Nobody really knew that it could get this big. 85 00:03:55,944 --> 00:03:58,488 ♪ If you want me to lay my hands on you ♪ 86 00:03:58,488 --> 00:04:00,573 [interviewer 2] What does it feel like to know that Bon Jovi 87 00:04:00,573 --> 00:04:03,117 probably is at the moment the number one rock act in America? 88 00:04:03,117 --> 00:04:06,579 [Jon] We're not, uh, satisfied and we're not done. 89 00:04:06,579 --> 00:04:08,206 We're just hitting stride. 90 00:04:08,206 --> 00:04:10,083 [♪ "Lay Your Hands On Me" continues] 91 00:04:10,083 --> 00:04:13,336 [audience cheering] 92 00:04:13,836 --> 00:04:15,338 It don't get no better 93 00:04:15,338 --> 00:04:17,298 [echoing] than this! 94 00:04:17,298 --> 00:04:19,550 One, two, three, four! 95 00:04:19,550 --> 00:04:20,718 It's going great. 96 00:04:20,718 --> 00:04:22,387 Kids are rocking, we're rocking. 97 00:04:22,387 --> 00:04:23,805 [interviewer 3] I mean, you really are earning your reputation 98 00:04:24,055 --> 00:04:25,348 as the hardest working band, aren't you? 99 00:04:25,515 --> 00:04:27,350 - [Jon] Absolutely. - ♪ Lay your hands on me ♪ 100 00:04:28,768 --> 00:04:30,687 ♪ Lay your hands on me ♪ 101 00:04:31,145 --> 00:04:38,820 ♪ Lay your hands on me ♪ 102 00:04:40,780 --> 00:04:43,199 If you're healthy, it's the greatest thing in the whole world. 103 00:04:43,199 --> 00:04:44,701 You know, when you can hit the high notes, 104 00:04:44,701 --> 00:04:47,996 there's not a higher feeling in the world, 105 00:04:47,996 --> 00:04:49,622 you know, there's nothing better than that. 106 00:04:50,623 --> 00:04:54,419 [static crackling] 107 00:05:02,302 --> 00:05:05,221 [Jon] We are in day one 108 00:05:05,221 --> 00:05:08,599 of what will ultimately culminate 109 00:05:09,392 --> 00:05:11,519 in the 40th anniversary of the band. 110 00:05:12,437 --> 00:05:16,357 Technically, it's year 39 and a half. 111 00:05:17,692 --> 00:05:19,485 We're about to start rehearsals 112 00:05:19,485 --> 00:05:23,406 in a place that I dreamt of playing when I was a kid. 113 00:05:24,198 --> 00:05:25,783 That's where we're having pre-production. 114 00:05:25,783 --> 00:05:29,537 That's the Meadowlands Arena. It's not used anymore. 115 00:05:30,413 --> 00:05:34,625 We've just taken it over for the next three weeks to rehearse. 116 00:05:35,293 --> 00:05:37,128 Go out, do some dates, 117 00:05:37,837 --> 00:05:40,923 take the rest of this year to figure out what the 40th is, 118 00:05:41,424 --> 00:05:44,260 and then go out and celebrate that journey. 119 00:05:45,386 --> 00:05:47,597 [♪ soft upbeat music playing] 120 00:05:47,597 --> 00:05:51,559 [people chattering indistinctly] 121 00:06:04,197 --> 00:06:05,907 Oh, hello, Snooky. 122 00:06:06,824 --> 00:06:08,326 - How are you, then? - Good. 123 00:06:08,326 --> 00:06:10,244 - I know, I love this stuff. - [Snooky] That's the stuff. 124 00:06:10,244 --> 00:06:12,121 - [Jon] I know. - [Snooky] It's the, the vocal magic. 125 00:06:12,330 --> 00:06:15,583 {\an8}[Jon] Obie! [laughing] 126 00:06:16,250 --> 00:06:18,961 {\an8}It is good to see you before you turn the six, the big six-0 127 00:06:18,961 --> 00:06:21,297 and everything just totally turns to rat shit. 128 00:06:22,423 --> 00:06:23,800 You look good for 40, though. 129 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,927 [Obie O'Brien] I know. How are you feeling? 130 00:06:26,302 --> 00:06:27,428 [Jon] I feel great. 131 00:06:29,097 --> 00:06:32,225 How could this be the place where time stood still? 132 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,185 Why wouldn't you play here? 133 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:35,561 [agent] I don't know. 134 00:06:35,561 --> 00:06:37,397 I would play here in a minute. 135 00:06:37,980 --> 00:06:39,899 - [agent] It's a good venue. - [Jon] I love this place. 136 00:06:39,899 --> 00:06:42,235 It's always been so good 'cause they're on top of you. 137 00:06:42,860 --> 00:06:44,570 When I was a young guy, 138 00:06:44,570 --> 00:06:47,240 right around the time where we were just starting out, 139 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,450 and, you know, you always think someday. 140 00:06:49,450 --> 00:06:52,036 And then I remember going to shows at the Meadowlands 141 00:06:52,036 --> 00:06:55,665 {\an8}and then I remember meeting a very famous agent saying, 142 00:06:55,665 --> 00:06:58,126 {\an8}"Someday, you know, you're gonna be my agent." 143 00:06:58,126 --> 00:06:59,335 And then saying to that agent, 144 00:06:59,335 --> 00:07:00,920 "Someday, I'm gonna headline here 145 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,006 and golly gee, we're gonna put on a show." 146 00:07:04,006 --> 00:07:05,466 You know? [laughing] 147 00:07:05,466 --> 00:07:08,136 And then, uh, you know, how many times then 148 00:07:08,136 --> 00:07:09,762 of course we went on to play there. 149 00:07:10,221 --> 00:07:12,098 So it's almost like full circle 150 00:07:12,098 --> 00:07:14,809 of the success of the band to go back there. 151 00:07:14,809 --> 00:07:16,436 I think we should fucking book a week 152 00:07:16,436 --> 00:07:18,396 and just say "Fuck you" to everyone else. 153 00:07:18,396 --> 00:07:20,314 [agent] Hey, you call it. We'll-we'll sell it. 154 00:07:20,314 --> 00:07:22,442 [Jon] I could sell it, that's for sure. 155 00:07:22,900 --> 00:07:26,195 We never, in 40 years, 156 00:07:26,195 --> 00:07:28,030 have done three weeks rehearsal. 157 00:07:28,573 --> 00:07:30,366 Maybe we did four days. 158 00:07:31,284 --> 00:07:34,203 We never did this kind of rehearsal. 159 00:07:34,871 --> 00:07:38,291 But in a weird way, we all want that. 160 00:07:38,791 --> 00:07:40,543 We wanna sit in a room and just, 161 00:07:41,377 --> 00:07:44,172 no pressure, no... nothing. 162 00:07:46,299 --> 00:07:47,967 It's like a fuckin' time warp. 163 00:07:47,967 --> 00:07:49,635 What fucking year is this? 164 00:07:50,636 --> 00:07:52,805 Floor monitors in the Meadowlands. 165 00:07:52,805 --> 00:07:55,391 - Ooh, ooh! [chuckles] - Oh, no. 166 00:07:55,391 --> 00:07:58,728 [♪ drums thudding] 167 00:08:01,606 --> 00:08:05,109 [♪ piano plays slowly] 168 00:08:05,109 --> 00:08:06,360 [sound tech] Hey, hey. Shh. 169 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:07,737 [Jon] A lot of guys aren't there. 170 00:08:07,737 --> 00:08:09,030 Big changing of the guard. 171 00:08:09,030 --> 00:08:11,115 The stalwarts are the band. 172 00:08:11,115 --> 00:08:15,119 {\an8}Starting with David Bryan, my keyboard player, dear friend. 173 00:08:15,119 --> 00:08:19,749 David's been with me since we were 16 or 17 years old, 174 00:08:20,208 --> 00:08:21,626 all throughout the band's career. 175 00:08:21,626 --> 00:08:23,377 Same with Tico Torres. 176 00:08:23,377 --> 00:08:25,588 {\an8}He was a drummer that I never thought in a million years 177 00:08:25,588 --> 00:08:27,131 {\an8}would ever play with me. 178 00:08:27,131 --> 00:08:28,633 You know, he was the grownup in the band. 179 00:08:28,633 --> 00:08:30,426 He's-he's 10 years older than I am. 180 00:08:31,302 --> 00:08:32,678 Hugh McDonald, the bass player, 181 00:08:32,970 --> 00:08:35,973 {\an8}actually played on Runaway before there was even a band. 182 00:08:36,140 --> 00:08:38,726 {\an8}So, you know, although Hugh wasn't a member 183 00:08:38,726 --> 00:08:40,353 {\an8}of the band for the longest time, 184 00:08:40,353 --> 00:08:42,188 {\an8}I've known him, he's played with me a bunch. 185 00:08:42,688 --> 00:08:44,982 {\an8}John Shanks, playing guitar, 186 00:08:44,982 --> 00:08:47,485 {\an8}is, uh, co-producer of every record 187 00:08:47,485 --> 00:08:49,904 {\an8}since Have a Nice Day in 2005. 188 00:08:50,363 --> 00:08:53,783 {\an8}Everett Bradley is playing percussion because truthfully, uh, 189 00:08:54,158 --> 00:08:56,077 he adds a different dimension to the band, 190 00:08:56,077 --> 00:08:59,330 and he was there at a time when I, I needed him 191 00:08:59,330 --> 00:09:00,915 to fill out the sound. 192 00:09:01,374 --> 00:09:04,126 {\an8}And then Phil X came in a couple of times 193 00:09:04,126 --> 00:09:06,837 {\an8}during the times when, you know, Richie wasn't up to it. 194 00:09:06,837 --> 00:09:09,549 And then finally, you know, he stayed on 195 00:09:09,549 --> 00:09:11,842 and he's an incredibly talented cat. 196 00:09:11,842 --> 00:09:14,345 So he fills those shoes fully. 197 00:09:15,930 --> 00:09:17,223 So that's the band. 198 00:09:17,223 --> 00:09:18,307 Whoo! Come on. 199 00:09:18,307 --> 00:09:19,684 I used to run around these things 200 00:09:19,684 --> 00:09:21,727 like a motherfucker. 201 00:09:22,395 --> 00:09:24,689 [♪ electric guitar playing] 202 00:09:24,689 --> 00:09:26,607 So potent, fucker. 203 00:09:27,775 --> 00:09:29,485 One of the best there ever was. 204 00:09:29,819 --> 00:09:33,447 [♪ electric guitar playing] 205 00:09:35,866 --> 00:09:38,578 Now the champ is tired. [laughing] 206 00:09:42,164 --> 00:09:44,792 Unfortunately, the truth is, is I'm all over the place. 207 00:09:45,334 --> 00:09:46,669 You know, I have one foot in 208 00:09:46,669 --> 00:09:48,588 and one foot off the ground. 209 00:09:48,588 --> 00:09:49,880 Some days, I wake up 210 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,132 and I, and I can't wait to get back 211 00:09:51,132 --> 00:09:52,258 in there and swing. 212 00:09:52,258 --> 00:09:53,884 And others, I-I regret 213 00:09:53,884 --> 00:09:56,345 that I'm doing this interview 214 00:09:56,345 --> 00:09:58,097 and that I'm going back on the road. 215 00:09:59,557 --> 00:10:02,059 To me, the greatest goal 216 00:10:02,059 --> 00:10:06,689 is that I truly just have joy in this next run. 217 00:10:06,689 --> 00:10:09,150 [♪ "Beautiful Drug" by Bon Jovi playing] 218 00:10:09,150 --> 00:10:13,237 ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh ♪ 219 00:10:13,237 --> 00:10:17,033 ♪ Tear off your mask, no need to hide ♪ 220 00:10:17,575 --> 00:10:21,495 ♪ There's a prescription that no doctor can prescribe ♪ 221 00:10:21,912 --> 00:10:25,416 I don't need to do this, I want to do this. 222 00:10:25,750 --> 00:10:29,253 So, my drive is much different. 223 00:10:29,253 --> 00:10:30,880 I'm not doing it for success. 224 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,342 I'm not doing it for accolades or money. 225 00:10:34,342 --> 00:10:36,385 I just wanted to be good at it. 226 00:10:36,385 --> 00:10:38,220 I wanted to work hard at it. 227 00:10:38,220 --> 00:10:44,143 ♪ Love is a beautiful drug ♪ 228 00:10:44,143 --> 00:10:48,856 The joy is that oneness with the song, 229 00:10:49,482 --> 00:10:52,026 it's that connection to that place 230 00:10:52,026 --> 00:10:54,570 that takes you off of the stage. 231 00:10:54,570 --> 00:10:57,907 - ♪ ...beautiful drug ♪ - ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh ♪ 232 00:10:57,907 --> 00:11:00,201 If the other side of it were to come back 233 00:11:00,201 --> 00:11:02,036 and you're too in your head, 234 00:11:02,036 --> 00:11:04,080 it's an anchor around your neck 235 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,500 in every word of every song, every night. 236 00:11:08,209 --> 00:11:09,835 It's sheer torture. 237 00:11:10,378 --> 00:11:14,048 And I know what that is too, and I ain't going back. 238 00:11:14,048 --> 00:11:16,133 ♪ The taste, the touch, the stuff of dreams ♪ 239 00:11:16,133 --> 00:11:18,260 ♪ The paradise that's in between ♪ 240 00:11:18,260 --> 00:11:20,137 ♪ Honey of another hit ♪ 241 00:11:20,137 --> 00:11:22,598 ♪ You'd almost bite through your own lip ♪ 242 00:11:22,598 --> 00:11:24,517 ♪ The thorny rose that makes you bleed ♪ 243 00:11:24,517 --> 00:11:29,605 ♪ A kind of hurt that makes you scream ♪ 244 00:11:29,605 --> 00:11:31,941 ♪ Love ♪ 245 00:11:31,941 --> 00:11:35,194 ♪ Love is a beautiful drug ♪ 246 00:11:35,194 --> 00:11:39,031 And with every decade comes another life's lesson. 247 00:11:39,031 --> 00:11:44,620 At 25, all I was thinking about was fun, success. 248 00:11:44,954 --> 00:11:46,914 At 30, I got married, 249 00:11:46,914 --> 00:11:49,208 I had looked at success differently. 250 00:11:49,208 --> 00:11:50,793 By 40, you start to measure, 251 00:11:50,793 --> 00:11:52,712 did you accomplish what you set out to do. 252 00:11:52,712 --> 00:11:55,256 By 50, you start to think about a legacy. 253 00:11:55,256 --> 00:11:58,342 By 60, I think as the Chinese proverb says, 254 00:11:58,342 --> 00:12:00,720 it's basically, "You are the man you were meant to be." 255 00:12:01,512 --> 00:12:02,513 That's good. 256 00:12:03,347 --> 00:12:06,225 So at 60, it's like when I look back, 257 00:12:06,976 --> 00:12:08,978 did I become the man I wanted to be? 258 00:12:10,312 --> 00:12:12,398 - [reel clicking, whirring] - [audience cheering] 259 00:12:12,398 --> 00:12:14,483 [reporter] President Kennedy sitting in the front seat 260 00:12:14,483 --> 00:12:15,943 being helped out by Secret Service... 261 00:12:15,943 --> 00:12:18,237 [Jon] We were born into an era 262 00:12:18,362 --> 00:12:20,448 where the American dream was very much alive and well. 263 00:12:20,448 --> 00:12:22,742 We choose to go to the moon in this decade... 264 00:12:22,742 --> 00:12:24,952 [Jon] We were born when John Kennedy was elected president. 265 00:12:24,952 --> 00:12:28,414 Not because they are easy, but because they are hard. 266 00:12:28,539 --> 00:12:30,249 [Jon] When he talked about sending a man to the moon. 267 00:12:30,249 --> 00:12:32,251 [NASA crew] [over comms] That's affirmative. Program alarm. 268 00:12:32,251 --> 00:12:35,963 {\an8}[Jon] They would tell you that anything you wanted to be, you could be. 269 00:12:35,963 --> 00:12:37,465 {\an8}[narrator 1] Just about the only thing that 270 00:12:37,465 --> 00:12:39,133 can make a 10-year-old sit still 271 00:12:39,133 --> 00:12:40,968 long enough for you to catch your breath. 272 00:12:40,968 --> 00:12:43,471 [Jon] That your parents were going to be the ones 273 00:12:43,471 --> 00:12:45,765 {\an8}to buy their first home in suburbia. 274 00:12:45,973 --> 00:12:47,933 {\an8}[narrator 2] The isolation of the suburbs, 275 00:12:47,933 --> 00:12:50,269 [narrator 3] 70% of the people in the metropolitan area 276 00:12:50,269 --> 00:12:52,021 own their own homes. 277 00:12:52,021 --> 00:12:56,400 It was just a wonderful little mix of European 278 00:12:56,984 --> 00:13:01,238 first and second generation families who came over 279 00:13:01,238 --> 00:13:03,991 and didn't get any farther than New Jersey. 280 00:13:03,991 --> 00:13:05,201 [laughs] 281 00:13:05,534 --> 00:13:07,787 [narrator] New Jersey is more than meets the eye. 282 00:13:08,245 --> 00:13:11,457 A place to study, a place to learn, 283 00:13:11,457 --> 00:13:13,667 a place to prepare for the future. 284 00:13:13,667 --> 00:13:17,463 And sometimes, New Jersey is a place to dream. 285 00:13:17,463 --> 00:13:20,049 It was very much the privilege 286 00:13:20,049 --> 00:13:24,094 {\an8}of being born in a certain place, 287 00:13:24,553 --> 00:13:27,515 at a certain time, looking a certain way. 288 00:13:27,932 --> 00:13:30,267 And although all of our families 289 00:13:30,267 --> 00:13:32,853 come from very blue collar working class, 290 00:13:33,187 --> 00:13:34,772 we also had a leg up 291 00:13:34,772 --> 00:13:37,399 because we didn't want for things. 292 00:13:37,775 --> 00:13:40,069 Our parents taught us all a work ethic, 293 00:13:42,279 --> 00:13:43,781 but then you-you felt like, 294 00:13:43,781 --> 00:13:45,324 we didn't have a care in the world. 295 00:13:45,324 --> 00:13:46,450 You had a roof over your head 296 00:13:46,659 --> 00:13:49,036 and shoes on your feet and food on the table. 297 00:13:49,537 --> 00:13:51,455 That was all part of the American dream. 298 00:13:51,455 --> 00:13:53,833 {\an8}You can do anything that you wanna do, 299 00:13:54,291 --> 00:13:55,584 and the whole world's out there, man, 300 00:13:55,584 --> 00:13:57,086 and it's just waiting for you to take it. 301 00:13:57,753 --> 00:13:59,964 {\an8}- [bat smacks] - [audience cheering] 302 00:14:01,841 --> 00:14:03,259 - [engine roaring] - [audience cheering] 303 00:14:03,259 --> 00:14:06,971 - [♪ soft music playing] - [audience applauding] 304 00:14:06,971 --> 00:14:09,431 I always say we were like America's greatest export 305 00:14:09,807 --> 00:14:11,392 {\an8}because it shows the American dream. 306 00:14:11,392 --> 00:14:14,103 {\an8}It's like five guys from nowhere. 307 00:14:14,103 --> 00:14:15,312 And if you work hard enough 308 00:14:15,312 --> 00:14:16,981 and you dream big enough, you can make it. 309 00:14:16,981 --> 00:14:18,941 [♪ upbeat music playing] 310 00:14:18,941 --> 00:14:20,776 My dad was a trumpet player. 311 00:14:20,776 --> 00:14:22,611 He would always have big band like Al Hirt 312 00:14:22,611 --> 00:14:23,946 and Dizzy Gillespie. 313 00:14:23,946 --> 00:14:25,698 And he taught me trumpet when I was five. 314 00:14:25,698 --> 00:14:29,118 And, uh, I knew I had no career 'cause I stunk. 315 00:14:29,118 --> 00:14:31,829 But I love music. I-I just loved the feeling about it, you know? 316 00:14:31,829 --> 00:14:33,372 And then at seven, I started piano lessons, 317 00:14:33,372 --> 00:14:34,540 I auditioned for piano lessons. 318 00:14:34,540 --> 00:14:35,749 {\an8}[♪ upbeat piano music playing] 319 00:14:35,749 --> 00:14:37,710 {\an8}He was a Julliard graduate, Mr. Hack, 320 00:14:37,710 --> 00:14:40,129 {\an8}I remember he had a Hammond organ, like this one with pedals. 321 00:14:40,796 --> 00:14:42,464 My first impression, I said to my dad, I'm like, 322 00:14:42,464 --> 00:14:44,008 "I don't wanna play the thing with the feet. 323 00:14:44,008 --> 00:14:45,134 [laughing] "It looks too hard. 324 00:14:45,134 --> 00:14:46,343 There's too many things. 325 00:14:46,343 --> 00:14:48,095 It looks hard enough with just your hands." 326 00:14:48,095 --> 00:14:50,472 And then he went to the piano, he started playing that, 327 00:14:50,472 --> 00:14:53,058 and he started playing, like, Brahms and Bach 328 00:14:53,058 --> 00:14:54,310 and Schubert and Mozart. 329 00:14:54,310 --> 00:14:57,354 All this beautiful noise and sound 330 00:14:57,354 --> 00:14:58,981 was coming out of this piece of wood. 331 00:14:58,981 --> 00:15:01,317 And I went, "Whatever that is, I need to do that." 332 00:15:02,651 --> 00:15:06,697 [Jon] I would've been aware of music on the periphery. 333 00:15:07,031 --> 00:15:09,408 We did not have a musical household. 334 00:15:09,408 --> 00:15:11,994 It wasn't as if my parents ever sat down and said, 335 00:15:11,994 --> 00:15:13,454 "Listen to this." 336 00:15:13,954 --> 00:15:15,539 My mom was a florist, 337 00:15:15,748 --> 00:15:17,750 and she had a little gift shop at one point 338 00:15:17,750 --> 00:15:20,878 and somehow she brought an acoustic guitar home 339 00:15:20,878 --> 00:15:26,967 {\an8}and the Roy Clark learn-at-home guitar book and record. 340 00:15:26,967 --> 00:15:29,261 [Roy Clark] That was my Roy Clark Big Note Guitar songbook. 341 00:15:29,261 --> 00:15:31,096 [Jon] And I was seven, eight years old, 342 00:15:31,096 --> 00:15:32,473 so I had no desire. 343 00:15:32,890 --> 00:15:34,767 I remember throwing it down the basement stairs 344 00:15:34,767 --> 00:15:36,101 and breaking a tuning pick. 345 00:15:36,101 --> 00:15:37,645 And hey, you're makin' music. 346 00:15:37,645 --> 00:15:39,396 [Jon] But as you hit 12 and 13 years old 347 00:15:39,396 --> 00:15:40,814 and you're listening to the AM radio 348 00:15:40,814 --> 00:15:42,566 and the pop songs, you start liking them, 349 00:15:42,566 --> 00:15:44,526 and you start singing along a little bit. 350 00:15:44,526 --> 00:15:47,196 And that's when I found music in my own way. 351 00:15:47,196 --> 00:15:49,114 [♪ "The Ocean" by Led Zeppelin playing] 352 00:15:49,907 --> 00:15:52,284 ♪ I can hear the ocean's roar ♪ 353 00:15:53,869 --> 00:15:55,454 ♪ I don't think so ♪ 354 00:15:55,454 --> 00:15:58,040 [audience cheering] 355 00:15:58,832 --> 00:16:02,252 That's when a guy named Al Parinello moved in across the street 356 00:16:02,252 --> 00:16:05,464 and he was the hipper, younger version of my parents. 357 00:16:05,673 --> 00:16:07,716 He played guitar in a lounge band. 358 00:16:07,716 --> 00:16:09,134 {\an8}[♪ soft music playing] 359 00:16:09,134 --> 00:16:11,136 {\an8}And then I thought to go down into the basement 360 00:16:11,136 --> 00:16:12,721 {\an8}and pick up that guitar 361 00:16:13,055 --> 00:16:15,766 {\an8}because he's the one that had the patience 362 00:16:15,766 --> 00:16:17,559 {\an8}to show me a couple of chords. 363 00:16:18,143 --> 00:16:22,398 {\an8}And when I was lazy about it, was also stern enough to say, 364 00:16:22,398 --> 00:16:24,316 {\an8}"Stop wasting my time. 365 00:16:24,316 --> 00:16:27,236 {\an8}Learn this or get out of my basement." 366 00:16:27,611 --> 00:16:29,863 But that was exactly what I needed to hear. 367 00:16:30,364 --> 00:16:31,782 [David Bryan] An instrument is honest. 368 00:16:31,782 --> 00:16:33,534 If you don't practice, you suck. 369 00:16:33,909 --> 00:16:35,119 You can't lie to it. 370 00:16:35,119 --> 00:16:36,412 You can't just go, "Hey, I'm great." 371 00:16:36,412 --> 00:16:37,663 No, you're not great. 372 00:16:37,663 --> 00:16:39,039 If you put in the hours, 373 00:16:39,039 --> 00:16:40,833 that's the only thing. It's-it's honest. 374 00:16:40,833 --> 00:16:43,961 You put in the work, you get back the craft 375 00:16:43,961 --> 00:16:46,088 and then when you love it, you keep going forward, 376 00:16:46,088 --> 00:16:47,631 and then figure out songs and then, you know, 377 00:16:47,631 --> 00:16:48,966 it grows from there. 378 00:16:48,966 --> 00:16:50,759 And so then I worked hard, 379 00:16:50,759 --> 00:16:52,469 got my first calluses, 380 00:16:52,469 --> 00:16:54,513 and, uh, one thing led to another. 381 00:16:54,513 --> 00:16:57,766 And then you understood song structure. 382 00:16:57,766 --> 00:17:00,144 And when you looked at it like a little jigsaw puzzle, 383 00:17:00,269 --> 00:17:03,355 and the verse and the chorus and the bridge, you went, 384 00:17:03,355 --> 00:17:05,274 "Oh, it's like that." 385 00:17:06,775 --> 00:17:08,777 So then around that time, 386 00:17:08,777 --> 00:17:11,655 {\an8}my very first band was in a talent show. 387 00:17:12,072 --> 00:17:13,490 And, you know, of course we lost. 388 00:17:13,490 --> 00:17:14,658 [David] It was like right around, 389 00:17:14,658 --> 00:17:15,993 like, my bar mitzvah. 390 00:17:15,993 --> 00:17:19,455 My father got me a Farfisa Deluxe Combo organ 391 00:17:19,455 --> 00:17:20,873 and a Univox piano. 392 00:17:20,873 --> 00:17:23,667 He would always support my music habit. 393 00:17:23,667 --> 00:17:25,127 So I had great equipment. 394 00:17:25,627 --> 00:17:28,505 [Jon] It's probably a part of me that needed to be seen 395 00:17:28,505 --> 00:17:31,467 by not people, by and large, 396 00:17:31,717 --> 00:17:34,636 but by those who love you the most. 397 00:17:35,137 --> 00:17:37,014 It wasn't as though I woke up one morning 398 00:17:37,014 --> 00:17:38,807 and was the best singer in the school 399 00:17:38,807 --> 00:17:42,394 or on the block or in my house. [laughing] 400 00:17:42,394 --> 00:17:44,021 That's not saying much, 401 00:17:44,021 --> 00:17:46,398 but I just had a desire and a work ethic 402 00:17:46,398 --> 00:17:49,651 that was always the driving force. 403 00:17:49,651 --> 00:17:51,653 [reporter] He was just another kid from Jersey 404 00:17:51,653 --> 00:17:52,821 living a pretty routine life 405 00:17:52,821 --> 00:17:54,948 on this pretty routine suburban street 406 00:17:54,948 --> 00:17:57,785 {\an8}in a house Ward and June Cleaver would have loved. 407 00:17:58,786 --> 00:18:00,287 [Jon] In the town that I grew up in, 408 00:18:00,746 --> 00:18:03,040 the amount of kids that went to college were, 409 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,167 I can't tell you they were even slim. 410 00:18:05,167 --> 00:18:07,336 They were really slim. 411 00:18:07,878 --> 00:18:09,922 {\an8}And I can remember all the parents were really happy 412 00:18:09,922 --> 00:18:12,549 {\an8}about their boys being in a band and kept 'em off the streets 413 00:18:12,549 --> 00:18:14,384 {\an8}and it kept them busy with something. 414 00:18:14,968 --> 00:18:17,262 But when it was time for these boys to graduate, 415 00:18:17,262 --> 00:18:20,224 parents said, "Okay, guys, it's time to grow up." 416 00:18:20,724 --> 00:18:24,603 [Jon] You worked in the factory or you took up a trade. 417 00:18:25,354 --> 00:18:27,564 But it was something to be proud of, 418 00:18:27,564 --> 00:18:28,857 working in the trades. 419 00:18:29,525 --> 00:18:31,235 Uh, my father was a hairdresser, 420 00:18:31,235 --> 00:18:33,028 my grandfather was a plumber. 421 00:18:33,028 --> 00:18:35,447 These were considerations for me as a youth, 422 00:18:35,447 --> 00:18:37,032 simply because that's what we knew. 423 00:18:37,950 --> 00:18:39,910 My three best friends joined the service. 424 00:18:39,910 --> 00:18:41,120 [soldiers] Sir, yes, sir! 425 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:42,412 [Jon] It wasn't for me 426 00:18:42,579 --> 00:18:45,499 because I was already pursuing music. 427 00:18:45,499 --> 00:18:48,168 And we're coming up on beautiful Sayreville High School. 428 00:18:48,752 --> 00:18:51,630 The junior high for two years, you're supposed to go for three. 429 00:18:51,630 --> 00:18:54,216 So I left there to go to a different high school, 430 00:18:54,216 --> 00:18:55,425 'cause I was failing. 431 00:18:55,425 --> 00:18:59,054 So, um, I-I-I bolted from that school 432 00:18:59,054 --> 00:19:00,848 and went to Sayreville High School. 433 00:19:01,181 --> 00:19:04,351 I mean, I remember being in some kind of high school class 434 00:19:04,351 --> 00:19:07,062 and the singing teacher saying, "You haven't got it." 435 00:19:07,479 --> 00:19:10,149 Or my dad taking me to a singing lesson once 436 00:19:10,149 --> 00:19:12,985 and the guy basically saying, "I don't think so." 437 00:19:13,610 --> 00:19:16,113 I walked out of both of them saying, "I think so." 438 00:19:23,328 --> 00:19:26,206 [people chattering indistinctly] 439 00:19:26,206 --> 00:19:27,457 - Hey, good to see you. - Hey, bud. 440 00:19:27,457 --> 00:19:28,584 - Everything alright? - Yep. 441 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,336 Feel good? 442 00:19:31,587 --> 00:19:33,046 Nope 443 00:19:34,173 --> 00:19:35,465 [Jon exhales] 444 00:19:37,050 --> 00:19:38,343 [Jon blows raspberry] 445 00:19:39,803 --> 00:19:42,681 You know, I have COVID brain fog like everyone else. 446 00:19:42,681 --> 00:19:46,185 Was it '18 or '19 when we were out last? 447 00:19:46,185 --> 00:19:48,729 I, honest to God, would have to look on a calendar. 448 00:19:49,271 --> 00:19:51,148 [vocal coach] [over video call] How was your weekend? 449 00:19:51,148 --> 00:19:52,941 [Jon] Uh, wonderfully uneventful. 450 00:19:52,941 --> 00:19:54,902 - How 'bout yourself? - [vocal coach] Oh, that's wonderful. 451 00:19:55,402 --> 00:19:57,154 Did you get any singing done or-- 452 00:19:57,154 --> 00:20:00,032 [Jon] Uh, no, I didn't, but that's alright. 453 00:20:00,032 --> 00:20:02,367 - [vocal coach] Awesome. Awesome. - I have been very ready 454 00:20:02,367 --> 00:20:04,369 and raring to go today. 455 00:20:04,786 --> 00:20:07,206 - [vocal coach] Excellent. - Mm-hmm. 456 00:20:07,206 --> 00:20:09,791 [vocal coach] I like how you took a couple minutes to do your look behinds, 457 00:20:09,791 --> 00:20:11,710 we're pressing up into the molars. 458 00:20:11,710 --> 00:20:14,338 And then on either side of the soft-- hard palate. 459 00:20:15,255 --> 00:20:18,091 [Jon] I'm gonna guess it was the fall of '19. 460 00:20:18,592 --> 00:20:19,968 We were in South America. 461 00:20:20,469 --> 00:20:23,722 But I do remember at that time saying to myself, 462 00:20:24,264 --> 00:20:25,766 "Maybe it's time to walk away. 463 00:20:25,766 --> 00:20:27,059 Maybe it's time to cool it." 464 00:20:27,059 --> 00:20:31,271 [vocalizing] 465 00:20:31,688 --> 00:20:35,651 And it's the idea of wanting to achieve excellence 466 00:20:35,651 --> 00:20:40,155 but also knowing the price that you pay to do that, 467 00:20:40,155 --> 00:20:42,574 physically, mentally, emotionally. 468 00:20:42,824 --> 00:20:44,243 Coming to terms with who I am now 469 00:20:44,243 --> 00:20:46,328 versus who I once was. 470 00:20:47,537 --> 00:20:52,292 As I got older and the drive to maintain that being 471 00:20:52,292 --> 00:20:55,921 on the stage, you know, it takes more and more. 472 00:20:56,296 --> 00:20:58,090 [vocal coach] You're working that one. [laughing] 473 00:20:58,090 --> 00:21:00,092 No, yeah, it's good. Good, good, good, good, good. 474 00:21:00,092 --> 00:21:01,176 [clapping] 475 00:21:01,551 --> 00:21:04,137 For the New Jersey tour, I started to take, 476 00:21:04,137 --> 00:21:05,430 you know, vocal lessons, 477 00:21:05,931 --> 00:21:08,100 and I just got better and better and better as a singer. 478 00:21:09,101 --> 00:21:11,436 You know, 2008, '10, '13, 479 00:21:11,436 --> 00:21:13,355 I was great. I was really enjoying it. 480 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,190 [vocalizing] 481 00:21:15,190 --> 00:21:17,317 - Hmm, I don't like where it's going. - [vocal coach] You got it. 482 00:21:17,317 --> 00:21:19,569 - I got it, though. - [vocal coach] No, take your time with it. 483 00:21:19,569 --> 00:21:21,238 Take your time with it, it takes a minute. 484 00:21:21,238 --> 00:21:24,741 [vocalizing] 485 00:21:27,577 --> 00:21:29,413 [vocal coach] Good, rest for a second. Reset your body. 486 00:21:29,413 --> 00:21:31,456 - Yeah. [clears throat] - [vocal coach] Let's do that again. 487 00:21:31,456 --> 00:21:35,335 [Jon] But after '13 is when the problems really started. 488 00:21:35,794 --> 00:21:38,714 Just wasn't up to what I wanted it to be. 489 00:21:39,506 --> 00:21:41,925 And so, you know, the last couple years, 490 00:21:41,925 --> 00:21:43,802 I've just tried so many different things 491 00:21:43,802 --> 00:21:46,847 to get back to what I liked 10 years ago. 492 00:21:46,847 --> 00:21:48,807 [♪ soft music playing] 493 00:21:48,807 --> 00:21:51,685 And at 50, things change. 494 00:21:52,394 --> 00:21:54,771 And at 60 it's like, "Holy fuck." 495 00:21:57,024 --> 00:22:00,527 Is it tiring? No. 496 00:22:00,527 --> 00:22:01,695 But it's like a workout. 497 00:22:01,695 --> 00:22:05,574 You know, you feel like you did your... time 498 00:22:05,574 --> 00:22:07,200 and on a Monday morning, it's usually got 499 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,286 a little bit of spider webs. 500 00:22:11,580 --> 00:22:16,877 This, uh, four-headed laser is aimed here at my chords 501 00:22:17,794 --> 00:22:19,671 and the vagal nerves. 502 00:22:20,130 --> 00:22:24,551 And what it does is it stimulates blood flow, 503 00:22:25,135 --> 00:22:28,347 trying to alleviate as much inflammation any way we can. 504 00:22:29,556 --> 00:22:31,641 There's three different vocal coaches, 505 00:22:32,601 --> 00:22:34,561 there's a couple different lasers, 506 00:22:35,145 --> 00:22:37,064 there's a boatload of vitamins. 507 00:22:37,773 --> 00:22:41,318 If I can't be the very best I can be, I'm out. 508 00:22:42,361 --> 00:22:44,529 I'm not here to drag down the legacy. 509 00:22:44,529 --> 00:22:46,448 I am not here for the "Where Are They Now" tour, 510 00:22:46,448 --> 00:22:48,408 I'm not ever gonna be the fat Elvis, 511 00:22:48,408 --> 00:22:49,993 ain't happening. [laughing] 512 00:22:50,327 --> 00:22:51,453 [♪ soft guitar music playing] 513 00:22:51,453 --> 00:22:53,747 But it took voodoo and science 514 00:22:53,747 --> 00:22:57,084 and a lot of hard work 515 00:22:57,084 --> 00:23:00,295 to get it to where I-I figure I can do this. 516 00:23:00,295 --> 00:23:03,882 [♪ strumming "Blaze of Glory"] 517 00:23:03,882 --> 00:23:07,219 It's got little cracks just from leaving it out. 518 00:23:09,137 --> 00:23:10,680 Alright, what else you wanna do? 519 00:23:11,431 --> 00:23:15,268 [♪ upbeat rock music playing] 520 00:23:16,353 --> 00:23:17,687 [camera clicks] 521 00:23:17,687 --> 00:23:19,147 [Jon] It's the late '70s. 522 00:23:19,147 --> 00:23:22,317 On my bedroom walls were the '70s icons, 523 00:23:22,317 --> 00:23:24,820 Led Zeppelin standing in front of that 747... 524 00:23:24,820 --> 00:23:25,987 [engine roaring] 525 00:23:25,987 --> 00:23:28,365 {\an8}...Rolling Stones, 526 00:23:28,365 --> 00:23:30,242 Kiss, Lynyrd Skynyrd. 527 00:23:30,242 --> 00:23:32,702 - [♪ rock music playing] - [audience cheering] 528 00:23:32,702 --> 00:23:33,870 [Jon] That was impossible. 529 00:23:33,870 --> 00:23:36,415 ♪ Comin' home to you ♪ 530 00:23:36,415 --> 00:23:40,502 {\an8}[Jon] But 25 minutes south of Sayreville, New Jersey 531 00:23:40,502 --> 00:23:42,587 was this place that was making music. 532 00:23:42,587 --> 00:23:44,881 [announcer] Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes. 533 00:23:44,881 --> 00:23:47,259 [Jon] Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes. 534 00:23:47,926 --> 00:23:49,845 Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band. 535 00:23:50,762 --> 00:23:54,391 The songs that they wrote were from the places in which we came. 536 00:23:55,058 --> 00:23:58,145 The Stone Pony, a landmark in Asbury Park 537 00:23:58,145 --> 00:24:01,273 and the spawning ground for some of the greatest rock and roll. 538 00:24:01,273 --> 00:24:03,233 Southside Johnny and the Jukes. 539 00:24:03,233 --> 00:24:04,901 [laughing] 540 00:24:04,901 --> 00:24:08,029 {\an8}It's like a disease, you know, it, uh, never leaves you. 541 00:24:08,572 --> 00:24:12,242 A sexually transmitted disease, being from New Jersey. 542 00:24:12,242 --> 00:24:13,618 All across the East Coast 543 00:24:13,618 --> 00:24:16,329 an-and in Asbury Park is an amazing event. 544 00:24:16,329 --> 00:24:18,540 [Southside Johnny] Well, Asbury Park was the happening place 545 00:24:18,540 --> 00:24:21,084 because there were a lot of bars with bands. 546 00:24:21,460 --> 00:24:23,420 So when we started playing, 547 00:24:23,420 --> 00:24:25,422 there was a bunch of clubs 548 00:24:25,422 --> 00:24:27,174 that we could get into. 549 00:24:28,175 --> 00:24:30,552 So it was a chance for all of us to go and jam 550 00:24:30,552 --> 00:24:33,388 and hone our skills and perform in front of an audience. 551 00:24:33,388 --> 00:24:36,224 And it was really a formative time, 552 00:24:36,224 --> 00:24:38,602 Bruce, Steve Van Zandt, Garry Tallent. 553 00:24:39,769 --> 00:24:41,980 And we just really wanted to find our own voices. 554 00:24:41,980 --> 00:24:44,566 [♪ "Love On The Wrong Side Of Town" by Bruce Springsteen playing] 555 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,277 ♪ When I needed you by my side ♪ 556 00:24:47,277 --> 00:24:49,321 This concert was as hot as those hot dogs next door. 557 00:24:49,321 --> 00:24:51,323 It's hysteria, it's excitement. 558 00:24:51,323 --> 00:24:52,532 [Jon] As I got a little older 559 00:24:52,532 --> 00:24:54,409 and with older friends able to go down 560 00:24:54,409 --> 00:24:56,578 to Asbury Park, 561 00:24:56,578 --> 00:24:58,705 there wasn't any chance 562 00:24:58,705 --> 00:25:01,291 that you wouldn't run into at least one of them 563 00:25:01,291 --> 00:25:03,251 on any given night. [laughs] 564 00:25:03,251 --> 00:25:05,670 - All we wanna know... - Yeah? 565 00:25:05,670 --> 00:25:07,881 ...is what are you people doing in my town? 566 00:25:07,881 --> 00:25:09,216 {\an8}- [fan] Right on! - [♪ upbeat music playing] 567 00:25:09,216 --> 00:25:10,425 {\an8}[Southside Johnny] Steve Van Zandt and I saw 568 00:25:10,425 --> 00:25:11,801 Sam and Dave one time, 569 00:25:11,801 --> 00:25:13,345 and we thought, "That's what we want to do." 570 00:25:13,762 --> 00:25:17,641 And I thought, "My God, what an incredible thing to do 571 00:25:17,766 --> 00:25:20,268 to have all these people in the palm of your hand." 572 00:25:20,810 --> 00:25:23,271 For me, that was the kind of music that was alive. 573 00:25:23,271 --> 00:25:25,982 [♪ playing "This Time It's For Real" by Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes] 574 00:25:25,982 --> 00:25:28,443 ♪ Baby, don't slow me down ♪ 575 00:25:28,443 --> 00:25:31,947 ♪ I've come too far to ever turn around ♪ 576 00:25:31,947 --> 00:25:36,159 I think that we all learned from The Animals 577 00:25:36,159 --> 00:25:38,537 and the Rolling Stones and Paul Butterfield Blues Band 578 00:25:38,537 --> 00:25:41,289 that white people could play Black music, 579 00:25:41,790 --> 00:25:45,085 along with rock and roll, Jerry Lee Lewis and that kind of stuff. 580 00:25:45,585 --> 00:25:49,631 And I guess we started to influence people by doing what we wanted to do. 581 00:25:49,631 --> 00:25:52,884 And they thought, "Well, if these guys can do it, I can do it too." 582 00:25:53,593 --> 00:25:57,138 [Jon] I was 16, and the drinking age was 18, 583 00:25:57,138 --> 00:25:59,391 which is really integral to this story, 584 00:25:59,391 --> 00:26:03,144 is at 16 you could sneak in pretending to be 18 585 00:26:03,144 --> 00:26:07,566 and seeing any one of those 10 members of The Asbury Jukes, 586 00:26:07,566 --> 00:26:09,776 seven members of the E Street Band... 587 00:26:09,776 --> 00:26:11,653 [air whooshing] 588 00:26:11,653 --> 00:26:14,823 ...it made the impossible right there. 589 00:26:14,823 --> 00:26:16,241 {\an8}One of the things that, uh, 590 00:26:16,241 --> 00:26:18,743 {\an8}critics have been saying about rock and roll in the '70s 591 00:26:18,743 --> 00:26:20,412 {\an8}is that there's been very little substance. 592 00:26:20,412 --> 00:26:21,621 Well, ladies and gentlemen, 593 00:26:21,621 --> 00:26:22,956 I'm here to tell you Bruce Springsteen 594 00:26:22,956 --> 00:26:25,208 and the E Street Band are substance. 595 00:26:25,208 --> 00:26:28,044 No one wanted to be associated with New Jersey. 596 00:26:28,044 --> 00:26:30,964 {\an8}I mean, even when I went to make my first record, 597 00:26:30,964 --> 00:26:33,550 {\an8}they wanted me to say I was a New York-based artist. 598 00:26:33,550 --> 00:26:37,387 [♪ "The Promised Land" by Bruce Springsteen and E Street Band plays] 599 00:26:41,099 --> 00:26:44,769 ♪ On a rattlesnake speedway in the Utah desert ♪ 600 00:26:44,769 --> 00:26:47,939 ♪ I pick up my money and head back into town ♪ 601 00:26:47,939 --> 00:26:50,900 It was unusual at the time 602 00:26:50,900 --> 00:26:54,738 for an artist to identify himself with New Jersey 603 00:26:55,155 --> 00:26:57,532 and all of its glories, you know? 604 00:26:58,450 --> 00:27:01,161 I just sort of embraced it as my identity, 605 00:27:01,161 --> 00:27:03,997 the Boardwalk and Asbury Park 606 00:27:03,997 --> 00:27:06,583 {\an8}and all the street people from the city. 607 00:27:06,583 --> 00:27:08,251 And I said, "Yeah, these are the people 608 00:27:08,251 --> 00:27:09,753 "I want to write about, 609 00:27:09,753 --> 00:27:12,589 and this is who I want to be and who I am." 610 00:27:13,423 --> 00:27:15,592 [Jon] Now you could touch the dream, 611 00:27:15,717 --> 00:27:17,552 'cause there it was. 612 00:27:17,552 --> 00:27:20,096 It wasn't those pictures on my wall that you think 613 00:27:20,722 --> 00:27:24,142 I aspire to be, you know, Led Zeppelin. 614 00:27:24,142 --> 00:27:26,061 It was way too big for me to fathom. 615 00:27:26,645 --> 00:27:27,979 Let's go! 616 00:27:29,814 --> 00:27:31,149 But those guys, 617 00:27:31,691 --> 00:27:32,942 who were singing about 618 00:27:32,942 --> 00:27:35,528 the highway that was out our window, 619 00:27:35,945 --> 00:27:38,406 that made it incredibly possible. 620 00:27:38,406 --> 00:27:42,202 ♪ And I believe in a promised land ♪ 621 00:27:43,745 --> 00:27:45,497 {\an8}[audience cheering] 622 00:27:45,497 --> 00:27:48,917 {\an8}[Jon] By the time I was 17, 623 00:27:49,459 --> 00:27:52,796 I was sneaking into those bars and, and performing 624 00:27:53,672 --> 00:27:55,090 with the Atlantic City Expressway, 625 00:27:55,090 --> 00:27:56,758 my first real band. 626 00:27:56,758 --> 00:27:59,344 [♪ soft upbeat music playing] 627 00:27:59,344 --> 00:28:01,179 The bass player's name was Steve Pretti. 628 00:28:01,179 --> 00:28:03,556 He was one of the three guys that joined the Navy. 629 00:28:04,599 --> 00:28:05,850 The guy I went to high school with, 630 00:28:05,850 --> 00:28:07,519 by the name of Willie Hercek, 631 00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:08,978 he was really into the whole 632 00:28:08,978 --> 00:28:11,648 Asbury sound and taught me a lot about it. 633 00:28:11,648 --> 00:28:14,734 And he was in the Expressway, right at the inception. 634 00:28:14,734 --> 00:28:19,781 His father owned a bar in Perth Amboy, 635 00:28:20,532 --> 00:28:23,535 and Willie told me about David. 636 00:28:24,327 --> 00:28:27,205 David's father owned a surgical supply store 637 00:28:27,205 --> 00:28:29,916 in Perth Amboy and had a van. 638 00:28:29,916 --> 00:28:31,501 I got the gig just because of the equipment, 639 00:28:31,501 --> 00:28:32,919 and I had a van. 640 00:28:33,420 --> 00:28:35,630 [Jon] He had a Hammond organ in the van. He's in the band. 641 00:28:35,630 --> 00:28:38,383 I don't care what he looks like or what he plays, he's in. 642 00:28:38,383 --> 00:28:40,844 And that's when I had a big Hammond organ like this, 643 00:28:40,844 --> 00:28:42,512 a big Hammond, and I had this piano, 644 00:28:42,512 --> 00:28:44,139 I had all this equipment by then. 645 00:28:44,139 --> 00:28:45,598 He could play. 646 00:28:45,598 --> 00:28:49,269 He was, he was the kid who took lessons for real. 647 00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:51,938 He was a far better musician than I was. 648 00:28:51,938 --> 00:28:53,523 [David] I'm like, "Great, where does he live?" 649 00:28:53,523 --> 00:28:54,941 I'm like, "Sayreville." I'm like, "Okay." 650 00:28:54,941 --> 00:28:56,317 It's right across the bridge. 651 00:28:56,317 --> 00:28:57,777 They did a cover band. 652 00:28:57,777 --> 00:28:59,070 They were like Springsteen and Jukes 653 00:28:59,070 --> 00:29:00,363 and a couple originals. 654 00:29:00,363 --> 00:29:02,073 And at the time I knew 655 00:29:02,073 --> 00:29:04,242 Born to Run and We're Having a Party. 656 00:29:04,242 --> 00:29:06,244 And so Dave fit, 657 00:29:06,244 --> 00:29:08,997 you know, we carried that son of a gun B three 658 00:29:08,997 --> 00:29:11,374 down into the bass player's mother's house and set it up. 659 00:29:11,374 --> 00:29:13,126 And between that and the horns 660 00:29:13,126 --> 00:29:15,712 and the two loud electric guitars... 661 00:29:16,755 --> 00:29:17,797 it was the sound of a band. 662 00:29:17,797 --> 00:29:20,258 [♪ upbeat music playing] 663 00:29:20,258 --> 00:29:24,596 [David] I wasn't into that kind of blue-eyed soul and soul music. 664 00:29:24,596 --> 00:29:26,514 And, uh, it just won my heart over. 665 00:29:26,514 --> 00:29:28,767 I was like, "Wow, five horns, everybody's loud. 666 00:29:28,892 --> 00:29:31,227 There's like 10 people making music." 667 00:29:31,352 --> 00:29:34,731 - [♪ upbeat trumpet music playing] - [camera clicking] 668 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,028 It was the closest to God-like I think you could ever get. 669 00:29:40,028 --> 00:29:41,613 I was like, "I need to do this." 670 00:29:42,906 --> 00:29:44,699 ♪ I know it's been a long time ♪ 671 00:29:44,699 --> 00:29:47,619 [Jon] The Expressways now playing high school dances 672 00:29:47,619 --> 00:29:51,164 and a bar emulating Southside Johnny. 673 00:29:52,207 --> 00:29:54,250 And fortunately, back in Asbury Park, 674 00:29:54,250 --> 00:29:56,878 in the late '70s and early '80s, 675 00:29:57,045 --> 00:29:59,005 there was a place called The Fast Lane. 676 00:29:59,380 --> 00:30:03,051 And that's where David used to do his high school homework. 677 00:30:03,051 --> 00:30:04,844 [David] And when we did the first gig, I was like, 678 00:30:04,844 --> 00:30:07,263 "Wow, he's great. This is great. 679 00:30:07,263 --> 00:30:08,473 "The money's not great. 680 00:30:08,848 --> 00:30:10,975 We got, like, 150 bucks for 10 people." 681 00:30:11,476 --> 00:30:13,645 [Jon] You had gas, and you had the bar bill. 682 00:30:13,645 --> 00:30:14,938 So there was no money in it, 683 00:30:14,938 --> 00:30:18,024 and that wasn't what any of us were motivated by. 684 00:30:18,024 --> 00:30:19,567 [David] We had to pay a buck a beer. 685 00:30:19,567 --> 00:30:22,529 So I think I ended up being in the hole every night. 686 00:30:22,529 --> 00:30:24,113 But I cheated him out of like 10 bucks 687 00:30:24,113 --> 00:30:26,241 for gas money or something, I was-- Don't tell anybody. 688 00:30:26,241 --> 00:30:27,450 [camera clicks] 689 00:30:27,992 --> 00:30:31,704 [Jon] You know, when you're that young and naive, 690 00:30:32,413 --> 00:30:34,874 blind faith is enough to get you by. 691 00:30:34,874 --> 00:30:36,459 Alright! Thank you very much. 692 00:30:36,459 --> 00:30:38,127 I'd like to remind you of the name of the group, 693 00:30:38,127 --> 00:30:39,963 we're the Atlantic City Expressway. 694 00:30:39,963 --> 00:30:41,798 We stole that sign off the highway. 695 00:30:41,798 --> 00:30:42,882 [♪ strums chord] 696 00:30:42,882 --> 00:30:44,968 It was him, officer, it was him. 697 00:30:46,261 --> 00:30:47,929 We would play the Fast Lane, 698 00:30:47,929 --> 00:30:49,889 then we would play up and down the Jersey Shore. 699 00:30:49,889 --> 00:30:51,558 There was a lot of clubs you could play. 700 00:30:51,558 --> 00:30:54,352 [Jon] And that's when, you know, we'd go to get the van 701 00:30:54,352 --> 00:30:57,814 {\an8}to fill it with gear and drive down to do a show. 702 00:30:58,356 --> 00:31:00,608 - [engine rumbling] - [♪ upbeat music playing] 703 00:31:00,608 --> 00:31:02,026 I'd get done playing, 704 00:31:02,026 --> 00:31:04,195 I'd get all the equipment and the horn players, 705 00:31:04,654 --> 00:31:07,115 drive back up to Sayreville, drop them off, 706 00:31:07,115 --> 00:31:09,117 go over the bridge, go into Perth Amboy, 707 00:31:09,826 --> 00:31:12,704 drop all the shit off into my father's warehouse, 708 00:31:12,704 --> 00:31:15,039 get my car, get back home at 5:00 in the morning, 709 00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:16,708 and I have to get up at 7:00 for high school. 710 00:31:16,875 --> 00:31:20,128 [laughing] So I was, uh, just trying to survive. 711 00:31:21,004 --> 00:31:23,006 [Jon] What was wonderful about my parents 712 00:31:23,006 --> 00:31:25,174 and their support of it was, 713 00:31:25,174 --> 00:31:26,551 they said, "We knew you were in a bar 714 00:31:26,551 --> 00:31:27,886 {\an8}"until 2:00 in the morning, 715 00:31:27,886 --> 00:31:29,929 {\an8}"but at least we knew where you were. 716 00:31:30,388 --> 00:31:32,515 "And if we had seen that you were 717 00:31:32,849 --> 00:31:36,561 "not working at this every day, all day, 718 00:31:36,561 --> 00:31:38,479 "we may have had to step in and say, 719 00:31:38,938 --> 00:31:42,692 "'Wait a minute, son, you have to go apply for a trade.'" 720 00:31:42,692 --> 00:31:45,403 Saw them at the Fast Lane, when he was like 17 years old. 721 00:31:45,403 --> 00:31:48,448 And I was very impressed with his stage presence 722 00:31:48,448 --> 00:31:50,074 and you know, all of that. 723 00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:53,161 He really hadn't found himself yet. 724 00:31:53,161 --> 00:31:55,288 [Jon] If you want anything in this world, 725 00:31:55,288 --> 00:31:57,415 if you want it bad enough, 726 00:31:58,458 --> 00:31:59,751 anything is possible. 727 00:32:00,293 --> 00:32:02,295 I remember we'd have to walk to high school. 728 00:32:02,295 --> 00:32:03,963 I was always talking about things like, 729 00:32:03,963 --> 00:32:05,840 "This is our tour jacket." 730 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,342 [laughing] 731 00:32:07,342 --> 00:32:10,595 Not so much, you know, practicing four days a week, 732 00:32:10,595 --> 00:32:12,555 but we need a photo session 733 00:32:12,555 --> 00:32:16,184 and we need to see Southside somewhere. 734 00:32:16,684 --> 00:32:20,313 So all those great memories of what was Asbury 735 00:32:20,313 --> 00:32:22,732 and what was, uh, original music 736 00:32:22,732 --> 00:32:26,861 and what was a community of up-and-coming musicians 737 00:32:26,861 --> 00:32:29,364 as well as those who had already landed record deals. 738 00:32:29,822 --> 00:32:32,992 The pinnacle of all of this was a record deal. 739 00:32:33,993 --> 00:32:36,996 Once Bruce got his record contract, 740 00:32:36,996 --> 00:32:38,957 all of a sudden, we were more respectable. 741 00:32:38,957 --> 00:32:41,918 And then when Born To Run came out, 742 00:32:42,502 --> 00:32:45,380 all of a sudden, everybody wanted to sign somebody from New Jersey. 743 00:32:46,172 --> 00:32:48,341 [Jon] In 1979, 744 00:32:48,341 --> 00:32:51,386 I was singing a song off of 745 00:32:51,761 --> 00:32:53,721 that album called Darkness on the Edge of Town. 746 00:32:54,681 --> 00:32:56,015 And I looked up, 747 00:32:56,557 --> 00:32:58,851 and there's Bruce on stage with me. 748 00:32:58,851 --> 00:33:00,645 [♪ "The Promised Land" resumes playing] 749 00:33:00,645 --> 00:33:02,855 ♪ ...dark cloud rising from the desert floor ♪ 750 00:33:02,855 --> 00:33:07,443 ♪ I packed my bags and I'm heading straight into the storm ♪ 751 00:33:07,443 --> 00:33:08,945 That was the guy, you know? 752 00:33:08,945 --> 00:33:11,239 And he jumps up and sings his song with me. 753 00:33:11,239 --> 00:33:14,033 And I like to play. I like to play, you know? 754 00:33:14,033 --> 00:33:16,661 ♪ Blow away the dreams that tear you... ♪ 755 00:33:16,661 --> 00:33:18,246 [Bruce Springsteen] I think that was what-- 756 00:33:18,246 --> 00:33:20,832 well, there's some young kid around here from New Jersey 757 00:33:20,832 --> 00:33:22,625 who's making some kind of noise, you know? 758 00:33:22,625 --> 00:33:24,877 That was the first thing I knew about Jon. 759 00:33:24,877 --> 00:33:26,838 He is a hardworking guy, you know, put everything 760 00:33:26,838 --> 00:33:28,047 he had into his music. 761 00:33:28,047 --> 00:33:29,841 [David] We did Promised Land. 762 00:33:29,841 --> 00:33:31,926 It was the second verse, I still have a cassette tape of it. 763 00:33:31,926 --> 00:33:34,262 And it was like, "Oh, my God, that's Bruce. He's singing with us." 764 00:33:34,262 --> 00:33:38,391 ♪ And I believe in a promised land ♪ 765 00:33:38,391 --> 00:33:41,019 [Jon] So you go to high school the next day, needless to say, 766 00:33:41,019 --> 00:33:43,229 you look at the teacher and you look at the kids and you go... 767 00:33:44,939 --> 00:33:46,190 "I got a story to tell." 768 00:33:46,190 --> 00:33:48,443 And it's a lot better than history class. 769 00:33:48,443 --> 00:33:51,612 Bruce and, and anyone else in that band, 770 00:33:51,612 --> 00:33:53,781 or you know, in that whole clique down there, 771 00:33:53,781 --> 00:33:58,077 was always very, very, very supportive of-of myself 772 00:33:58,077 --> 00:33:59,704 and the groups that I played in. 773 00:33:59,704 --> 00:34:01,289 [♪ soft music playing] 774 00:34:01,289 --> 00:34:05,626 It made me even more single-mindedly focused 775 00:34:06,169 --> 00:34:08,880 that the impossible was well within reach. 776 00:34:09,630 --> 00:34:12,967 Shortly thereafter, I stopped playing covers. 777 00:34:13,384 --> 00:34:15,553 I stopped being in-in any band 778 00:34:15,553 --> 00:34:17,930 who was gonna rely on playing other people's material. 779 00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:21,934 In our senior year, then Jon, uh, then Jon quit. 780 00:34:22,351 --> 00:34:23,478 [air whooshing] 781 00:34:23,478 --> 00:34:26,064 [Jon] By the beginning of 1980, 782 00:34:26,064 --> 00:34:27,857 in my senior year of high school, 783 00:34:27,857 --> 00:34:30,443 I quit my own cover band. 784 00:34:31,319 --> 00:34:33,029 But I said, "I'm out. I have to go. 785 00:34:33,196 --> 00:34:35,531 I gotta go figure this out the right way." 786 00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:38,659 [David] He had a vision to know that if you're gonna be in a cover band, 787 00:34:38,826 --> 00:34:40,286 you're gonna play somebody else's music. 788 00:34:40,745 --> 00:34:42,205 And if you're an original band, 789 00:34:42,622 --> 00:34:44,499 you're gonna have cover bands playing your music. 790 00:34:45,208 --> 00:34:46,959 And that's the only road to the future. 791 00:34:46,959 --> 00:34:50,171 [Jon] I joined someone else's band, wasn't my vision, 792 00:34:50,171 --> 00:34:52,381 wasn't my band, I was just the singer. 793 00:34:53,049 --> 00:34:54,759 I didn't know enough about songwriting 794 00:34:54,759 --> 00:34:56,844 {\an8}and I certainly hadn't written enough songs yet. 795 00:34:57,428 --> 00:35:01,015 {\an8}So I would rather make no money and learn the craft 796 00:35:01,015 --> 00:35:03,935 {\an8}because that was the only way that there'd be longevity. 797 00:35:03,935 --> 00:35:06,062 Songwriting is the hardest thing to do 798 00:35:06,062 --> 00:35:07,647 and the most satisfying. 799 00:35:07,647 --> 00:35:09,273 When you come up with something that you go, 800 00:35:09,273 --> 00:35:11,067 "Oh, yeah, that's it. That's what I was 801 00:35:11,067 --> 00:35:12,443 trying to say." 802 00:35:12,443 --> 00:35:14,654 Because you have to have an idea, 803 00:35:15,196 --> 00:35:17,615 and you have to have thought about something, hopefully. 804 00:35:17,615 --> 00:35:19,492 And the deeper you've thought about it, 805 00:35:19,742 --> 00:35:22,453 probably the better your song is to a certain degree, you know? 806 00:35:22,995 --> 00:35:25,164 {\an8}[Jon] So going and joining someone's band 807 00:35:25,706 --> 00:35:28,501 {\an8}was again, a teachable moment. 808 00:35:28,501 --> 00:35:30,044 A, I didn't know how to do it. 809 00:35:30,044 --> 00:35:32,505 And B, you learn what not to do. 810 00:35:33,005 --> 00:35:37,802 Most importantly, don't not be a visionary. 811 00:35:38,136 --> 00:35:41,055 There was no way that I could live and die 812 00:35:41,597 --> 00:35:43,307 on someone else's decisions, 813 00:35:43,724 --> 00:35:45,226 and The Rest didn't last very long. 814 00:35:45,935 --> 00:35:49,730 He had that real desire to prove himself, 815 00:35:50,064 --> 00:35:51,941 'cause we had to, you know? 816 00:35:51,941 --> 00:35:54,986 {\an8}We weren't from New York or LA or whatever. 817 00:35:55,361 --> 00:35:58,072 {\an8}He just had that energy, that edge. 818 00:35:58,447 --> 00:36:00,950 He's gonna make it work. He'll find a way. 819 00:36:01,075 --> 00:36:03,578 I like our audiences to come to see us 820 00:36:04,203 --> 00:36:06,414 and to sweat as much as I sweat on the stage. 821 00:36:06,414 --> 00:36:08,749 You know? Or if I can get them to sweat half as much as I do, 822 00:36:08,749 --> 00:36:10,251 I know I've had a successful show. 823 00:36:10,251 --> 00:36:13,838 To me, your heart is, is 80% of the whole thing. 824 00:36:14,213 --> 00:36:15,882 Thank you. Thank you very much. 825 00:36:15,882 --> 00:36:17,466 Good evening, welcome down to The Fast Lane. 826 00:36:17,466 --> 00:36:19,427 We'll be here tomorrow night and every Wednesday night. 827 00:36:19,427 --> 00:36:21,804 Come on down, free admission. Drinks are a buck. 828 00:36:21,804 --> 00:36:23,806 - Come down this weekend. - [audience cheering] 829 00:36:23,806 --> 00:36:25,558 You know, there's two different kind of front men. 830 00:36:25,558 --> 00:36:27,226 There's the guys that stand there and just go, 831 00:36:27,226 --> 00:36:28,436 "Here's our next song. 832 00:36:29,437 --> 00:36:31,272 Here's our next song. Thank you." 833 00:36:31,272 --> 00:36:32,690 And there are the guys like him that go, 834 00:36:32,857 --> 00:36:34,275 "Tip your bartenders. How you doing tonight? 835 00:36:34,525 --> 00:36:36,194 "We're gonna get this together. Put your hands together. 836 00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:38,196 We're gonna be there. We're all together. Hands up, clap." 837 00:36:38,196 --> 00:36:40,489 Which was, uh, more of the Jersey school 838 00:36:40,698 --> 00:36:42,658 like, you know, a banter between you and the audience, 839 00:36:42,658 --> 00:36:44,285 and then make the whole thing one. 840 00:36:45,077 --> 00:36:48,748 [Jon] From '79, '80, I'm playing down in Asbury a lot, 841 00:36:48,748 --> 00:36:50,458 starting with The Expressway 842 00:36:50,458 --> 00:36:52,168 into being the singer of The Rest 843 00:36:52,168 --> 00:36:53,836 to now having my own band. 844 00:36:53,836 --> 00:36:55,504 Writing on my own, 845 00:36:55,504 --> 00:36:58,007 Jon Bongiovi and the Wild Ones is born. 846 00:36:58,716 --> 00:37:00,259 It's not easy 'cause there's no money. 847 00:37:00,259 --> 00:37:01,552 There's not even opportunity 848 00:37:01,552 --> 00:37:03,262 when you're playing original stuff. 849 00:37:03,554 --> 00:37:05,640 You know, you're writing about cars and girls. 850 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:06,974 What else was there? 851 00:37:06,974 --> 00:37:09,227 Those of you have, um, seen us before, 852 00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:11,479 I'm very anxious to get down to the new stuff. 853 00:37:11,479 --> 00:37:13,648 - [crowd cheering] - This is something new. 854 00:37:13,648 --> 00:37:16,484 This is by the Wild Ones. This is for the wild ones. 855 00:37:16,484 --> 00:37:18,402 - [audience member] Yeah! - [Jon] This one's named after the band. 856 00:37:18,402 --> 00:37:20,321 And this one's called The Wild One. 857 00:37:20,321 --> 00:37:22,281 - [audience member 2] Yeah! - [Jon] And this has gotta be for you. 858 00:37:22,281 --> 00:37:24,867 [♪ upbeat rock music playing] 859 00:37:26,285 --> 00:37:27,870 [David] And at that time, that's when 860 00:37:27,870 --> 00:37:29,121 I was a Wild One 861 00:37:29,121 --> 00:37:30,998 and, um, I graduated high school and 862 00:37:31,165 --> 00:37:32,458 then I was going to Rutgers. 863 00:37:32,458 --> 00:37:34,085 So once again, I found myself 864 00:37:34,085 --> 00:37:35,753 having to go to school again. 865 00:37:37,797 --> 00:37:39,715 [Jon] David was going to college. 866 00:37:39,715 --> 00:37:42,802 His nice Jewish mother wanted him to be a doctor. 867 00:37:43,261 --> 00:37:45,930 There was no plan B in my life ever. 868 00:37:46,597 --> 00:37:47,974 It was all or nothing. 869 00:37:47,974 --> 00:37:51,352 - Thank you, thank you. - [crowd cheering] 870 00:37:52,853 --> 00:37:57,400 In September of 1980, I call a second cousin of mine 871 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:58,943 {\an8}who was a recording engineer, 872 00:37:58,943 --> 00:38:00,361 {\an8}produced the first Talking Heads record, 873 00:38:00,361 --> 00:38:03,364 {\an8}the first Ramones record, who had seen The Rest perform. 874 00:38:03,364 --> 00:38:06,200 Had told my dad, "The band stinks, 875 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,160 but the kid's got something going for him." 876 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,453 Never met the guy, 877 00:38:09,453 --> 00:38:11,956 but obviously curious about my future. 878 00:38:11,956 --> 00:38:14,917 He allowed me to be a gopher at the Power Station. 879 00:38:14,917 --> 00:38:17,169 I would go run to the bank, the dry cleaner, 880 00:38:17,169 --> 00:38:21,132 the food pickup, the OTB, make the horse bets. 881 00:38:21,674 --> 00:38:24,093 Anyone and everyone would've given their right arm 882 00:38:24,677 --> 00:38:26,137 {\an8}to work at the Power Station. 883 00:38:26,762 --> 00:38:28,222 {\an8}And so sometimes you had to bring girls, 884 00:38:28,222 --> 00:38:29,640 sometimes you had to bring drugs, 885 00:38:29,765 --> 00:38:30,766 sometimes you had to do favors, 886 00:38:30,891 --> 00:38:31,976 sometimes you had to do stuff. 887 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:33,686 And I met Obie there. 888 00:38:34,312 --> 00:38:37,356 He was quite the character, to say the least. [laughing] 889 00:38:37,898 --> 00:38:40,484 {\an8}I was working at the Power Station. 890 00:38:40,484 --> 00:38:44,613 I was doing projects for Jon's cousin, Tony Bongiovi. 891 00:38:45,364 --> 00:38:47,283 [Jon] They gave me the opportunity 892 00:38:47,283 --> 00:38:50,077 to-to record on weekends and nights. 893 00:38:50,077 --> 00:38:52,288 [David] So we would go in at, like, 4:00 in the morning 894 00:38:52,288 --> 00:38:55,791 till 10:00 in the morning and start doing original songs. 895 00:38:55,791 --> 00:38:57,918 He played songs for me that he was working on. 896 00:38:58,711 --> 00:39:01,213 And he was so energetic about it. 897 00:39:01,922 --> 00:39:04,300 You know, there are people sometimes when they walk in the room, 898 00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:05,801 you go, [snaps fingers] "That's somebody." 899 00:39:06,510 --> 00:39:11,098 [Jon] The Power Station was the epicenter of record making. 900 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,311 I watched through the window the Rolling Stones. 901 00:39:15,311 --> 00:39:18,356 I saw Queen and Bowie doing Under Pressure. 902 00:39:18,773 --> 00:39:22,360 To see Kiss, to see Diana Ross. 903 00:39:22,777 --> 00:39:25,363 You know, Stevie Tyler would let me sit in the studio 904 00:39:25,363 --> 00:39:27,073 one night, 3:00, 4:00 in the morning 905 00:39:27,073 --> 00:39:29,075 and I was the only guy in there watching him singing. 906 00:39:29,075 --> 00:39:30,534 And that's one of your idols, you know, 907 00:39:30,534 --> 00:39:32,161 watching Aerosmith working on a record. 908 00:39:32,161 --> 00:39:35,706 He just wasn't the cleanup guy. He asked questions. 909 00:39:35,873 --> 00:39:37,917 He saw how a console worked. 910 00:39:37,917 --> 00:39:39,543 He saw how the engineers worked. 911 00:39:39,543 --> 00:39:42,254 He saw how producers worked. He took it all in. 912 00:39:42,546 --> 00:39:44,507 And when he was done working at the studio all day, 913 00:39:44,507 --> 00:39:47,426 he was writing, sleeping, you know, on the floor. 914 00:39:47,426 --> 00:39:49,595 [Jon] I had a, I don't know 915 00:39:49,595 --> 00:39:51,722 if I had a vision or I was just 916 00:39:51,722 --> 00:39:54,058 more faithful than everyone else, 917 00:39:54,058 --> 00:39:55,851 but that really played into it. 918 00:39:56,644 --> 00:39:59,146 We're going there, I'm doing this. 919 00:40:00,815 --> 00:40:01,816 Who wants to come? 920 00:40:04,402 --> 00:40:08,114 [♪ piano playing] 921 00:40:12,868 --> 00:40:17,289 [Jon vocalizing] 922 00:40:27,174 --> 00:40:29,552 [humidifier humming] 923 00:40:30,594 --> 00:40:32,638 So the purpose of doing that, 924 00:40:33,264 --> 00:40:35,099 so your tongue doesn't get tight 925 00:40:35,724 --> 00:40:38,853 and then it restricts everything else 926 00:40:38,853 --> 00:40:40,438 that covers the larynx. 927 00:40:41,272 --> 00:40:42,982 It's like if you ran a marathon, 928 00:40:42,982 --> 00:40:45,818 would you... walk it off 929 00:40:45,818 --> 00:40:49,155 or would you lay down and go to bed? 930 00:40:49,155 --> 00:40:50,698 The answer is you'd walk it off. 931 00:40:51,198 --> 00:40:53,617 So if you just take 10 or 15 minutes, 932 00:40:53,617 --> 00:40:56,328 do some cool-down exercises like that, 933 00:40:57,204 --> 00:41:00,082 it makes tomorrow morning a pleasant experience. 934 00:41:02,877 --> 00:41:05,629 [♪ soft music playing] 935 00:41:05,629 --> 00:41:08,674 So everybody feels physically tired, right? 936 00:41:08,674 --> 00:41:10,843 - [band member] Yeah, yeah. - [laughter] 937 00:41:10,843 --> 00:41:12,303 - [band member] Yeah. - [band member 2] Yes. 938 00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:13,804 It's okay, man. 939 00:41:14,555 --> 00:41:16,849 You are not alone, my brother. 940 00:41:16,849 --> 00:41:19,477 - [Jon] Okay. - I think this is gonna take us a minute... 941 00:41:20,561 --> 00:41:22,396 - [Jon] Gotta check. - ...to get back into this. 942 00:41:22,396 --> 00:41:25,483 - [band member] Oh, yeah. - You were standing this whole time. 943 00:41:25,483 --> 00:41:27,860 - Did you sleep last night? - [Jon] Like a motherfucker. 944 00:41:27,860 --> 00:41:29,528 I think it's a hunt. I think the hunt 945 00:41:29,528 --> 00:41:31,947 of getting alright is draining. 946 00:41:32,990 --> 00:41:34,366 [band member] Day one. 947 00:41:34,366 --> 00:41:35,743 It's also stress. 948 00:41:35,743 --> 00:41:37,745 [Jon] You know me, I wanna sing. 949 00:41:37,745 --> 00:41:40,498 I wanna sing. I wanna sing. I just wanna make sure... 950 00:41:40,956 --> 00:41:43,542 - [band member] That everybody's tight. - Yes. 951 00:41:43,542 --> 00:41:45,669 If I'm gonna be tired, I want to just know that, 952 00:41:45,669 --> 00:41:47,963 you know, I'm not pushing myself that hard. 953 00:41:47,963 --> 00:41:50,424 [♪ soft music continues] 954 00:41:55,095 --> 00:41:57,139 Would you say though like, music and touring for you 955 00:41:57,139 --> 00:42:00,935 is the same, sort of, organizing principle in your life? 956 00:42:01,227 --> 00:42:04,104 [Jon] Well, in as much as you're aware 957 00:42:04,104 --> 00:42:09,401 that it is what you have been defined by for so long. 958 00:42:10,110 --> 00:42:11,612 But I'm not gonna get any bigger. 959 00:42:12,488 --> 00:42:17,117 So for me, now it's just maintaining it at a level 960 00:42:17,117 --> 00:42:20,412 that I'm A, having joy, 961 00:42:20,829 --> 00:42:23,123 and B, I'm good at. 962 00:42:24,375 --> 00:42:28,754 But holy fuck have I worked, I've never worked so hard. 963 00:42:29,755 --> 00:42:32,299 You know, you realize how easily it came to you... 964 00:42:33,842 --> 00:42:35,511 and then it changes as you get older. 965 00:42:35,511 --> 00:42:37,596 You gotta work so much harder. 966 00:42:38,889 --> 00:42:41,475 It's not definitive that I'm gonna do a 40th. 967 00:42:42,268 --> 00:42:43,269 [coughs] 968 00:42:43,852 --> 00:42:47,147 It's all a byproduct of for what? 969 00:42:50,109 --> 00:42:52,611 So this is day 13 of rehearsals, 970 00:42:52,611 --> 00:42:54,446 the last day... 971 00:42:55,739 --> 00:42:56,949 of rehearsing. 972 00:42:58,576 --> 00:42:59,702 It's been great. 973 00:43:01,161 --> 00:43:04,957 We've never rehearsed 13 days for any tour, ever. 974 00:43:04,957 --> 00:43:06,083 [laughs] 975 00:43:08,919 --> 00:43:12,339 [♪ electric guitar playing softly] 976 00:43:12,673 --> 00:43:14,091 One observation. 977 00:43:15,175 --> 00:43:18,512 This show was absolutely sitting at about 2:40. 978 00:43:20,431 --> 00:43:21,599 We could cut down. 979 00:43:22,433 --> 00:43:25,394 I could cut down a easy 20 minutes 980 00:43:25,519 --> 00:43:28,188 and still give them way more than they ever thought. 981 00:43:28,188 --> 00:43:29,565 [band member] That's too long, right? 982 00:43:29,565 --> 00:43:31,233 [Jon] It doesn't have to be that right now. 983 00:43:31,233 --> 00:43:32,693 It can be, but it doesn't have to be. 984 00:43:33,110 --> 00:43:34,486 It's been a number of years 985 00:43:34,486 --> 00:43:37,031 since I was doing those three-kind-of-hour shows. 986 00:43:37,031 --> 00:43:40,242 It takes a lot of physical and vocal strength. 987 00:43:40,576 --> 00:43:42,578 We certainly have the catalog of music. 988 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,414 My aspiration is to get back to that. 989 00:43:45,414 --> 00:43:48,876 [Jon laughing] 990 00:43:48,876 --> 00:43:50,419 [David] I mean, I just turned 60, 991 00:43:50,419 --> 00:43:51,629 Jon and I just turned 60 992 00:43:51,629 --> 00:43:53,172 so we're definitely not young, 993 00:43:53,172 --> 00:43:54,965 but I feel like I'm 18. 994 00:43:54,965 --> 00:43:57,259 You know, it's like eternal. And then you look on stage 995 00:43:57,259 --> 00:43:59,178 and we all know we have each other's backs. 996 00:43:59,178 --> 00:44:01,722 - We're together. We're a unit. - Good. 997 00:44:01,722 --> 00:44:03,682 [David] You know, you're not up there alone. 998 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,602 [Jon] One other crazy observation, 999 00:44:06,977 --> 00:44:11,440 we could end the set with Prayer 1000 00:44:11,815 --> 00:44:15,027 and have Medicine be just more raucous 1001 00:44:15,027 --> 00:44:17,321 at the very end of the night. 1002 00:44:17,321 --> 00:44:18,947 - You know? Um... - [David] I'll switch 'em. 1003 00:44:18,947 --> 00:44:21,200 I like that idea That's a good idea 1004 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,161 Whole Lot Of Leavin' and Lost Highway I feel like they're in the same, kinda... 1005 00:44:24,161 --> 00:44:25,954 - [Jon imitates explosion] - space 1006 00:44:25,954 --> 00:44:27,164 [Jon] It was that, to me was where 1007 00:44:27,164 --> 00:44:29,249 I thought there might have been a lull, 1008 00:44:29,416 --> 00:44:31,585 - but they're both so easy to sing. - Yes 1009 00:44:32,336 --> 00:44:35,631 And then, the potential of doing This House, Prayer, 1010 00:44:35,631 --> 00:44:37,257 and then Love's the Only Rule, Medicine, 1011 00:44:37,257 --> 00:44:39,510 then they're like, show-stopping, fun, upbeat, 1012 00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:40,844 bit of a boom, boom, you know? 1013 00:44:42,471 --> 00:44:44,056 Okay, let's warm up a bit. 1014 00:44:47,059 --> 00:44:49,019 [David] That first week, we started working songs 1015 00:44:49,019 --> 00:44:50,896 and working songs, and everything was tired 1016 00:44:51,522 --> 00:44:53,691 'cause it was-- Jon was going through his challenges 1017 00:44:53,691 --> 00:44:56,735 and he had to figure it out for himself. 1018 00:44:57,361 --> 00:44:59,697 Second week is a little less exhausting. 1019 00:45:00,406 --> 00:45:02,741 Third week was like, "Okay, I'm good." 1020 00:45:02,741 --> 00:45:04,034 [♪ uplifting music playing] 1021 00:45:04,410 --> 00:45:08,664 [Jon] I don't need adulation. That's not what fuels me. 1022 00:45:08,831 --> 00:45:11,375 It's changed with time, you know, 1023 00:45:11,375 --> 00:45:13,085 and a better understanding of who you are, 1024 00:45:13,085 --> 00:45:15,504 why you did things, and why you continue to do things, 1025 00:45:15,504 --> 00:45:18,382 when you get to a level that is much deeper 1026 00:45:18,382 --> 00:45:20,008 than girls and guitars. 1027 00:45:21,427 --> 00:45:23,220 [David] You know, we're still standing. 1028 00:45:23,220 --> 00:45:25,472 We're one of the biggest bands in the world. It keeps happening. 1029 00:45:25,472 --> 00:45:27,850 And I'm fortunate because that's a blessing to me, 1030 00:45:27,850 --> 00:45:30,436 is that you get to keep doing what you love to do 1031 00:45:30,436 --> 00:45:34,273 and you don't have to either fizzle out or retire. 1032 00:45:35,065 --> 00:45:36,567 It's really so joyful 1033 00:45:36,567 --> 00:45:38,736 to do what you're made to do and love. 1034 00:45:40,821 --> 00:45:45,200 [Jon] Forty years doing anything is reason to pause 1035 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,412 and to acknowledge and to celebrate, 1036 00:45:48,829 --> 00:45:52,624 to look around at those who helped you along the way. 1037 00:45:52,624 --> 00:45:54,668 And there are hundreds of them 1038 00:45:55,502 --> 00:45:57,963 that all helped tell this story today. 1039 00:45:58,589 --> 00:46:01,216 You know, I'm just the ringleader in that circus. 1040 00:46:03,844 --> 00:46:06,054 [♪ uplifting music crescendo] 1041 00:46:08,056 --> 00:46:09,516 Rock and roll has not been 1042 00:46:09,516 --> 00:46:11,602 a parent's favorite thing since Elvis, 1043 00:46:11,602 --> 00:46:13,812 but, uh, remind your parents that they were kids 1044 00:46:13,812 --> 00:46:16,064 when Elvis and The Beatles were, uh, big, 1045 00:46:16,064 --> 00:46:17,858 you know, current stars. 1046 00:46:17,858 --> 00:46:20,360 When you guys all grow up and your kids look at you 1047 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,696 and they go, "Who was that Bon Jovi band? 1048 00:46:22,696 --> 00:46:24,698 You know, those old guys with long hair?" 1049 00:46:24,907 --> 00:46:27,534 - We can all have a laugh over this... - [crowd cheering] 1050 00:46:27,534 --> 00:46:30,120 ...and, you know, they have to, they have to understand 1051 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,747 that, that rock and roll is, 1052 00:46:31,747 --> 00:46:34,041 is our way of, uh, of letting out 1053 00:46:34,041 --> 00:46:36,668 a lot of excess energy, you know? 1054 00:46:38,378 --> 00:46:41,715 As a kid, I was taking the New Jersey Transit bus 1055 00:46:41,715 --> 00:46:42,966 into New York City. 1056 00:46:43,217 --> 00:46:44,218 And I was observant. 1057 00:46:44,593 --> 00:46:47,221 There was a lot of kids workin' the street. 1058 00:46:47,221 --> 00:46:49,765 You know, New York was pretty rough and tumble back then, 1059 00:46:49,765 --> 00:46:52,017 and there was a lot of street walkers. 1060 00:46:53,185 --> 00:46:55,854 So, Runaway was an observation. 1061 00:46:56,396 --> 00:46:59,066 That was just one of, you know, a bunch of songs I had written 1062 00:46:59,066 --> 00:47:00,651 or co-written at that time. 1063 00:47:01,401 --> 00:47:03,320 {\an8}And I didn't have a band. 1064 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,573 We had done, uh, Runaway in the studio with, uh... 1065 00:47:06,573 --> 00:47:08,033 [sings] ♪ Da, da, da, da, da, da, da ♪ 1066 00:47:08,033 --> 00:47:09,576 You know, I came up with that. 1067 00:47:10,369 --> 00:47:12,830 Jon went back in and, and recorded it. 1068 00:47:12,830 --> 00:47:15,457 [Jon] I recorded it at the Power Station 1069 00:47:15,457 --> 00:47:18,043 with a bunch of cats, as we call them. 1070 00:47:18,043 --> 00:47:20,796 [Bruce] The first demo I got of Jon's was a good song. 1071 00:47:20,796 --> 00:47:25,217 I mean, Jon's great talent is these big, powerful, 1072 00:47:25,217 --> 00:47:28,929 pop rock choruses that just demand to be sung 1073 00:47:28,929 --> 00:47:31,265 by, you know, 20,000 people in an arena. 1074 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,642 [David] And then took that and shopped that around 1075 00:47:33,642 --> 00:47:34,810 to the record companies. 1076 00:47:34,810 --> 00:47:36,186 It was Jon, it wasn't-- 1077 00:47:36,186 --> 00:47:37,813 there wasn't a band, it just was him. 1078 00:47:37,813 --> 00:47:39,898 [♪ "Runaway" by Bon Jovi playing] 1079 00:47:39,898 --> 00:47:41,859 [Jon] Sent Runaway out to anyone and everyone. 1080 00:47:41,859 --> 00:47:45,320 To managers, labels, production companies. 1081 00:47:45,737 --> 00:47:47,781 I-I think it was 11 record companies then, 1082 00:47:47,781 --> 00:47:49,241 and everybody said no. 1083 00:47:51,410 --> 00:47:53,412 [Jon] Nobody returns a phone call. 1084 00:47:53,412 --> 00:47:56,206 Nobody answers a letter. Nothing. 1085 00:47:56,874 --> 00:48:00,294 So it was just this kid knocking on doors with no luck. 1086 00:48:00,294 --> 00:48:01,962 I finally said, "Listen, I've gotta see 1087 00:48:01,962 --> 00:48:04,214 "if I'm way off the mark here 1088 00:48:04,214 --> 00:48:06,758 and should consider another, you know, form of work." 1089 00:48:06,758 --> 00:48:09,261 And at that time, my frustration, 1090 00:48:09,636 --> 00:48:12,389 a light bulb moment happened, and I said, 1091 00:48:12,389 --> 00:48:15,601 "Who's the loneliest man in the music business?" 1092 00:48:15,601 --> 00:48:16,977 [announcer] [on radio] Rock 104. 1093 00:48:16,977 --> 00:48:18,228 [Jon] The DJ. 1094 00:48:18,228 --> 00:48:20,731 Because he's probably in a dark room 1095 00:48:21,315 --> 00:48:25,319 talking into a microphone, preaching the gospel of music, 1096 00:48:25,319 --> 00:48:27,821 telling you to listen to this band and this song. 1097 00:48:27,821 --> 00:48:31,617 And there was a new radio station in New York City. 1098 00:48:31,617 --> 00:48:32,868 [announcer] [on radio] WAPP. 1099 00:48:32,868 --> 00:48:34,703 [Jon] WAPP. 1100 00:48:34,703 --> 00:48:38,999 [announcer] WAPP is the Apple's, New York's newest FM. 1101 00:48:38,999 --> 00:48:40,626 Rock on the summer. 1102 00:48:40,876 --> 00:48:42,127 [Jon] It was so new 1103 00:48:42,127 --> 00:48:43,629 they didn't have a receptionist. 1104 00:48:45,047 --> 00:48:46,506 And fortunately for me, 1105 00:48:46,506 --> 00:48:48,717 a young guy by the name of John Lastman 1106 00:48:48,717 --> 00:48:51,970 and a guy named Chip Hobart, who was the DJ on the air. 1107 00:48:51,970 --> 00:48:54,473 [Chip Hobart] [on radio] This is Chip Hobart at 4 o'clock. 1108 00:48:54,473 --> 00:48:55,807 [Jon] He says, "Well, you're in luck, 1109 00:48:56,308 --> 00:48:58,352 "because we want to do a homegrown record 1110 00:48:58,352 --> 00:49:00,354 of local talent." 1111 00:49:00,354 --> 00:49:02,189 {\an8}I played him Runaway, and he said, 1112 00:49:02,189 --> 00:49:03,523 {\an8}"That's a hit song." 1113 00:49:03,523 --> 00:49:05,442 {\an8}And I said, "I know!" 1114 00:49:05,442 --> 00:49:08,904 {\an8}[David] And of course APP is gonna promote themselves. 1115 00:49:08,904 --> 00:49:12,282 So they started playing hometown heroes from New York. 1116 00:49:12,282 --> 00:49:13,700 [♪ intense music playing] 1117 00:49:14,159 --> 00:49:15,911 [Jon] But the miracle of miracles happened. 1118 00:49:15,911 --> 00:49:17,746 Doubleday, the book publisher, 1119 00:49:17,746 --> 00:49:21,708 they owned eight radio stations in some big markets. 1120 00:49:22,376 --> 00:49:23,585 They started playing Runaway 1121 00:49:23,585 --> 00:49:25,295 on all eight stations. 1122 00:49:25,295 --> 00:49:26,880 [changing radio channels] 1123 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,757 [David] And all of a sudden, from getting turned down 1124 00:49:28,757 --> 00:49:30,092 by every record company, 1125 00:49:30,092 --> 00:49:32,844 we were the most requested song 1126 00:49:32,844 --> 00:49:34,262 'cause everybody's calling up, 1127 00:49:34,262 --> 00:49:35,973 "Who's this Bon Jo-- What is this? What is this? 1128 00:49:35,973 --> 00:49:37,808 We want to hear this, we want to hear this." 1129 00:49:37,933 --> 00:49:39,643 [Jon] So now all those same record guys 1130 00:49:39,643 --> 00:49:41,770 that had that cassette on their desk 1131 00:49:42,187 --> 00:49:43,397 went looking for it. 1132 00:49:43,939 --> 00:49:45,232 And lo and behold... 1133 00:49:46,108 --> 00:49:47,275 it was me. 1134 00:49:47,776 --> 00:49:49,361 ♪ On the street where you live ♪ 1135 00:49:49,361 --> 00:49:51,613 ♪ Girls talk about their social lives ♪ 1136 00:49:51,613 --> 00:49:55,033 So, they'd come and see what was ultimately, 1137 00:49:55,033 --> 00:49:56,535 you know, the band. 1138 00:49:58,870 --> 00:50:01,540 {\an8}I had the band together for what was meant to be three weeks 1139 00:50:01,540 --> 00:50:03,250 {\an8}of let me promote this 1140 00:50:03,250 --> 00:50:05,919 {\an8}so I can make $100, $200 a night, now 1141 00:50:05,919 --> 00:50:07,129 {\an8}as an original band. 1142 00:50:07,129 --> 00:50:08,422 ♪ Living in another world ♪ 1143 00:50:08,422 --> 00:50:10,716 ♪ Trying to get your message through ♪ 1144 00:50:12,384 --> 00:50:13,969 It was meant to be three weeks, 1145 00:50:13,969 --> 00:50:15,387 not 40 years. 1146 00:50:15,637 --> 00:50:17,597 Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to greet some gentlemen 1147 00:50:17,597 --> 00:50:18,765 who are from New Jersey. 1148 00:50:18,765 --> 00:50:20,058 Their tours I'm sure will take them 1149 00:50:20,058 --> 00:50:21,309 all over the world 1150 00:50:21,309 --> 00:50:23,812 before this year is up, please greet Bon Jovi. 1151 00:50:23,812 --> 00:50:25,897 [crowd cheering] 1152 00:50:25,897 --> 00:50:29,568 ♪ Ooh, she's a little runaway ♪ 1153 00:50:31,486 --> 00:50:33,572 ♪ Daddy's girl learned fast ♪ 1154 00:50:33,572 --> 00:50:35,615 ♪ All those things she couldn't say ♪ 1155 00:50:37,951 --> 00:50:42,247 ♪ Ooh, she's a little runaway ♪ 1156 00:50:42,247 --> 00:50:45,751 [Jon] I'd asked Dave who was still going to school... 1157 00:50:45,751 --> 00:50:47,335 And I says, "Well, here's what I want to do. 1158 00:50:47,335 --> 00:50:48,545 "You know, I wanna get the band together 1159 00:50:48,545 --> 00:50:49,921 and this is gonna be like the band." 1160 00:50:49,921 --> 00:50:52,382 And he says, "Okay." He quit school. 1161 00:50:52,799 --> 00:50:54,718 [David] I said, "Listen, I love pre-med, 1162 00:50:54,718 --> 00:50:57,054 but I'll give this, like, a year." 1163 00:50:57,554 --> 00:50:59,848 It looks like it's way more fun than being a doctor. 1164 00:51:00,682 --> 00:51:03,560 [Jon] I asked Alec John Such who sang his ass off 1165 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,563 and was in a cover band that was making $3,000 a night. 1166 00:51:06,563 --> 00:51:08,815 I had seen Alec play in Phantom's Opera, 1167 00:51:08,815 --> 00:51:11,151 which was a huge club band in Germany. 1168 00:51:11,151 --> 00:51:13,403 Told Dave about him and he agreed. 1169 00:51:13,403 --> 00:51:17,115 Alec was a great bass player, really cool-looking dude. 1170 00:51:17,115 --> 00:51:18,742 He had, he had the shit on his chin, 1171 00:51:18,742 --> 00:51:21,787 smoked these little brown menthol cigarettes, 1172 00:51:21,787 --> 00:51:24,247 and you just looked at Al and you go, "That motherfucking guy's cool." 1173 00:51:24,915 --> 00:51:26,333 [Jon] I asked Tico Torres, 1174 00:51:26,333 --> 00:51:28,210 who was in a band called Frankie and The Knockouts 1175 00:51:28,210 --> 00:51:29,878 who had a record deal. 1176 00:51:29,878 --> 00:51:31,922 He was married, he had a house, he was on the road. 1177 00:51:32,297 --> 00:51:33,590 [Tico Torres] I did own a house. 1178 00:51:33,590 --> 00:51:36,343 {\an8}And, uh, eventually, i-it destroyed that marriage. 1179 00:51:36,343 --> 00:51:38,637 {\an8}But I don't think I should have been married at that time anyway. 1180 00:51:38,637 --> 00:51:40,222 ♪ She's a little runaway ♪ 1181 00:51:40,222 --> 00:51:42,015 [Jon] I used to go see him play. 1182 00:51:42,015 --> 00:51:45,393 I was in awe of Tico Torres as a drummer. 1183 00:51:45,393 --> 00:51:48,897 [Tico] I initially met Jon, the first time I heard from him was Alec. 1184 00:51:48,897 --> 00:51:51,233 And I knew him since I was 15. 1185 00:51:51,233 --> 00:51:53,568 I lost my virginity at his house for God's sake. 1186 00:51:53,568 --> 00:51:56,238 {\an8}I remember I'd seen Tico, like, two days before and he said... 1187 00:51:56,238 --> 00:51:58,532 {\an8}[in gruff voice] "Yeah, we'll jam together." You know? 1188 00:51:58,532 --> 00:52:00,784 [normal] And so, he-- Jon said, Jon said, 1189 00:52:00,784 --> 00:52:02,494 "You know, get him down." 1190 00:52:02,494 --> 00:52:04,412 I called him, I said, "Tico, remember you said 1191 00:52:04,412 --> 00:52:06,206 we're gonna jam together? We're gonna." 1192 00:52:06,206 --> 00:52:07,666 [Tico] John came over and 1193 00:52:07,666 --> 00:52:09,417 played me his tape of Runaway 1194 00:52:09,417 --> 00:52:11,169 and we had a little jam session. 1195 00:52:11,670 --> 00:52:13,046 I said, "This kid's a star." 1196 00:52:13,046 --> 00:52:14,965 I mean, he had an aura about him. 1197 00:52:14,965 --> 00:52:17,384 I saw him and I says, "Look at this guy go." 1198 00:52:17,384 --> 00:52:19,719 And I'm looking like this, I'm playing the drums, going, 1199 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,930 "This kid's got something," you know, the chicks loved his butt. 1200 00:52:21,930 --> 00:52:24,099 I says, "Alright, I'm gonna hang with this." 1201 00:52:24,099 --> 00:52:25,350 [all laughing] 1202 00:52:25,350 --> 00:52:27,060 He was the best drummer I ever saw 1203 00:52:27,060 --> 00:52:28,270 or played with in my life. 1204 00:52:28,270 --> 00:52:29,437 And still is. 1205 00:52:29,437 --> 00:52:30,689 I was looking at him like, 1206 00:52:30,689 --> 00:52:32,566 "He's the baddest motherfucker in the land." 1207 00:52:32,566 --> 00:52:34,109 We're allowed to curse, aren't we? 1208 00:52:34,401 --> 00:52:35,902 [Dick Clark] Let me jump in the middle. 1209 00:52:35,902 --> 00:52:37,529 You guys gather around like a football huddle. 1210 00:52:37,529 --> 00:52:39,156 How did you meet Richie to begin with? 1211 00:52:39,156 --> 00:52:40,991 Richie was in the audience one night at a show 1212 00:52:40,991 --> 00:52:42,784 - while the other four of us were playing. - Yeah. 1213 00:52:42,784 --> 00:52:43,910 And he came up to me and says, 1214 00:52:43,910 --> 00:52:45,579 "I want to be your lead guitar player." 1215 00:52:45,579 --> 00:52:47,873 - What, are you crazy? - Uh, no. 1216 00:52:47,873 --> 00:52:49,791 This is now how to ingratiate yourself to people 1217 00:52:49,791 --> 00:52:51,459 and say, "I'm gonna be the lead guitarist." 1218 00:52:51,459 --> 00:52:52,711 Dick, it worked. 1219 00:52:52,711 --> 00:52:54,379 - [laughter] - Right. 1220 00:52:54,796 --> 00:52:56,339 [Jon] Alec, who was also 1221 00:52:56,339 --> 00:52:58,842 in an original band with Richie, said, 1222 00:52:58,842 --> 00:53:00,260 "You gotta see this guy. 1223 00:53:00,260 --> 00:53:01,720 There's something about this guy." 1224 00:53:01,720 --> 00:53:03,388 [Richie Sambora] Alec had called me up and said, 1225 00:53:03,388 --> 00:53:04,931 "I'm playing with this new band, you know, 1226 00:53:04,931 --> 00:53:06,308 "Jon Bongiovi and the Wild Ones. 1227 00:53:06,308 --> 00:53:07,434 Come down and see the band." 1228 00:53:07,434 --> 00:53:08,560 So I said, "Yeah, sure." 1229 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,271 And after hearing him play 1230 00:53:11,271 --> 00:53:13,398 and talking a bit, you know, 1231 00:53:13,398 --> 00:53:15,317 we found we were really on the same track, you know? 1232 00:53:15,317 --> 00:53:17,569 [interviewer] And the rest, as they say, is history. 1233 00:53:17,569 --> 00:53:19,070 - The rest is history. - [Tico] He walked in and says, 1234 00:53:19,070 --> 00:53:20,530 "I'm your new guitar player." 1235 00:53:20,530 --> 00:53:21,948 That's what I did. I was very cocky. 1236 00:53:21,948 --> 00:53:24,534 [♪ "Get Ready" by Bon Jovi playing] 1237 00:53:26,995 --> 00:53:28,288 {\an8}[Jon] We immediately hit it off. 1238 00:53:28,288 --> 00:53:30,457 I knew that this guy was incredibly talented. 1239 00:53:30,874 --> 00:53:33,460 He could play, he could sing, he could write, 1240 00:53:33,460 --> 00:53:36,046 and I thought he would be an incredible complement. 1241 00:53:37,255 --> 00:53:38,924 [Tico] There was a combination of, 1242 00:53:38,924 --> 00:53:42,010 it was all of us playing together that clicked. 1243 00:53:42,010 --> 00:53:45,096 But Jon and Richie, their vocal styles together 1244 00:53:45,096 --> 00:53:46,598 made its own style. 1245 00:53:47,015 --> 00:53:48,350 You know, you could say, there's-there's 1246 00:53:48,350 --> 00:53:49,517 Simon and Garfunkel, 1247 00:53:49,517 --> 00:53:51,853 there's, uh, Lennon, McCartney, 1248 00:53:51,853 --> 00:53:53,480 certain voices just go together. 1249 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:54,814 And that had a magic to it. 1250 00:53:55,148 --> 00:53:57,651 ♪ You need someone to make it last ♪ 1251 00:53:57,817 --> 00:53:59,903 [Obie] The energy of the band, 1252 00:54:00,487 --> 00:54:01,863 undeniable, 1253 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,199 like a freight train coming at you. 1254 00:54:04,532 --> 00:54:09,329 But Jon and Richie singing together, magic. 1255 00:54:10,038 --> 00:54:12,666 [Jon] The song Runaway that really started it all. 1256 00:54:12,666 --> 00:54:13,875 It triggered the whole thing. 1257 00:54:13,875 --> 00:54:15,585 But that was basically because 1258 00:54:15,585 --> 00:54:17,629 of, of that hometown record. 1259 00:54:18,004 --> 00:54:20,715 {\an8}We would've won that national contest. 1260 00:54:20,715 --> 00:54:22,676 But I pulled out because fortunately by then 1261 00:54:22,676 --> 00:54:24,427 I had so much interest from 1262 00:54:24,427 --> 00:54:25,762 a couple of labels 1263 00:54:25,762 --> 00:54:27,097 that we didn't need it. 1264 00:54:27,514 --> 00:54:29,266 {\an8}[David] And we signed with PolyGram, 1265 00:54:29,266 --> 00:54:30,767 {\an8}thank God he had the vision. 1266 00:54:30,767 --> 00:54:32,269 And I just was like, I said, 1267 00:54:32,269 --> 00:54:33,353 "You charge the hill, 1268 00:54:33,353 --> 00:54:34,562 I'm behind you charging with you." 1269 00:54:34,562 --> 00:54:36,398 [Jon] I had laid down months 1270 00:54:36,398 --> 00:54:38,149 into years of groundwork, 1271 00:54:38,149 --> 00:54:40,151 you know, trying to get that major label 1272 00:54:40,151 --> 00:54:41,444 and making the contact. 1273 00:54:41,444 --> 00:54:43,405 When it broke nationally, 1274 00:54:43,405 --> 00:54:45,532 it was by a guy named Jon Bongiovi. 1275 00:54:45,532 --> 00:54:47,325 There was no band, there was no manager, 1276 00:54:47,325 --> 00:54:49,077 {\an8}there wasn't anything at the time. 1277 00:54:49,077 --> 00:54:50,787 Now, if somebody ran up to you in a bar and said, 1278 00:54:50,787 --> 00:54:51,955 "What's your name," you'd say? 1279 00:54:51,955 --> 00:54:53,081 Jon Bon Jovi. 1280 00:54:53,081 --> 00:54:54,708 It was someone at the record company 1281 00:54:55,166 --> 00:55:00,005 who had suggested in the way that Van Halen, 1282 00:55:00,338 --> 00:55:03,258 Bon Jovi, two words, could work. 1283 00:55:03,258 --> 00:55:04,676 {\an8}[David] Van Halen had Jump, 1284 00:55:04,676 --> 00:55:07,178 {\an8}the first time a guitar band had a keyboard song. 1285 00:55:07,178 --> 00:55:09,389 Number one song and they broke up, 1286 00:55:09,389 --> 00:55:11,308 which is not what you do. 1287 00:55:11,308 --> 00:55:13,768 That left a big hole in the world 1288 00:55:13,768 --> 00:55:16,021 for, like, here we had a keyboard song, 1289 00:55:16,021 --> 00:55:17,731 we had a great-looking front man 1290 00:55:17,731 --> 00:55:20,108 who could sing his ass off and entertain. 1291 00:55:20,108 --> 00:55:22,610 We had the guitar-slinging guy who could do it. 1292 00:55:24,070 --> 00:55:26,072 {\an8}There was like a little bit of a hole there. 1293 00:55:26,072 --> 00:55:27,490 And then we just came right in. 1294 00:55:27,490 --> 00:55:31,328 - Show 'em! - Look, it's my favorite band! 1295 00:55:31,328 --> 00:55:34,247 [all cheering] 1296 00:55:34,247 --> 00:55:36,833 - Oh, nice work. - Cute kid, huh? 1297 00:55:36,833 --> 00:55:38,043 [band member] Look at that. 1298 00:55:38,043 --> 00:55:39,127 [excited chatter] 1299 00:55:39,919 --> 00:55:41,713 [Jon] Where's the video? 1300 00:55:42,172 --> 00:55:43,882 And so we made that first record... 1301 00:55:46,051 --> 00:55:47,302 and the adventure began. 1302 00:55:48,428 --> 00:55:50,972 [foot tapping] 1303 00:55:50,972 --> 00:55:54,476 [♪ electric guitar playing] 1304 00:56:01,983 --> 00:56:03,818 [camera assistant] Richie Sambora IV, take one. 1305 00:56:03,818 --> 00:56:07,947 [♪ electric guitar playing] 1306 00:56:09,741 --> 00:56:10,992 [interviewer] I'm excited for this. 1307 00:56:10,992 --> 00:56:13,119 I'm-- Hey, I'm excited. 1308 00:56:13,620 --> 00:56:15,497 Are we telling the truth or are we gonna lie? 1309 00:56:15,497 --> 00:56:17,874 What are we gonna do? Let's-let's-let's figure it out. 1310 00:56:17,874 --> 00:56:20,627 ♪ She's a little runaway ♪ 1311 00:56:20,627 --> 00:56:23,505 [♪ "Runaway" by Bon Jovi resumes playing] 1312 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,345 ♪ 1313 00:56:51,908 --> 00:56:55,912 ♪ No one heard a single word you said ♪ 1314 00:56:57,664 --> 00:57:00,500 ♪ They should have seen it in your eyes ♪ 1315 00:57:00,917 --> 00:57:03,503 ♪ What was going around your head ♪ 1316 00:57:05,296 --> 00:57:09,384 ♪ Ooh, she's a little runaway ♪ 1317 00:57:10,718 --> 00:57:12,846 ♪ Daddy's girl learned fast ♪ 1318 00:57:12,846 --> 00:57:15,056 ♪ All those things she couldn't say ♪ 1319 00:57:17,809 --> 00:57:22,021 ♪ Ooh, she's a little runaway ♪ 1320 00:57:23,148 --> 00:57:25,150 ♪ Daddy's girl learned fast ♪ 1321 00:57:25,442 --> 00:57:27,485 ♪ Now she works the night away ♪ 1322 00:57:29,070 --> 00:57:31,281 [♪ song fades out] 1323 00:57:31,281 --> 00:57:33,908 [♪ soft music playing] 1324 00:57:59,642 --> 00:58:02,854 [♪ soft music continues] 1325 00:58:30,507 --> 00:58:33,927 [♪ soft music continues] 1326 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:56,574 [♪ music fades out] 109855

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