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David: Time.
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One of the most
complex expressions.
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Memory made manifest.
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It's something that
straddles past and future
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without ever quite
being present.
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Or rather, it at first seems
indifferent to the present.
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There's a tension of a most
unfathomable nature.
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The word desires
to be understood.
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To have meaning.
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But you somehow feel
that it's not you yourself
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that the word is addressing.
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It washes over you,
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holding a dialogue
with something arcane
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that's maybe not mortal.
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And you feel intrigued.
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Captured even.
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You're aware
of a deeper existence.
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Maybe a temporary reassurance
that indeed
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there is no beginning, no end.
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And all at once,
the outward appearance
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of meaning is transcended.
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And you find yourself
struggling to comprehend
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a deep and formidable mystery.
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All is transient.
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Does it matter?
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Do I bother?
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I inchworm, inchworm I
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I measuring the marigolds I
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I you and your... I
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David: All those moments
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will be lost in time...
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Like tears...
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Dust...
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Cover me moon dust.
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Cover me...
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I spaceboy, you're sleepy now I
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I your silhouette
is so stationary I
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I you're released,
but your custody calls I
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I and I want to be free I
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I don't you want to be free I
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I do you like girls or boys? I
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I it's confusing these days I
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I but moondust will cover you I
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I cover you I
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I so bye bye love I
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I yeah bye bye love I
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I hallo, spaceboy I
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I this chaos is killing me I
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I hallo, spaceboy I
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Neil: Ground to major,
bye bye, Tom
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David:
J“ this chaos is killing me I
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Neil: I dead the circuit,
countdown's wrong I
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David:
J“ this chaos is killing me I
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Neil: Planet earth,
is control on?
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David: I so sleepy now I
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Neil: I do you wanna be free? I
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both:
I don't you wanna be free? I
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I do you like girls or boys? I
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I it's confusing these days I
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David:
I but moondust will cover you I
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I cover you I
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I so bye bye love I
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I yeah, bye bye love I
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I hallo spaceboy I
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I spaceboy, spaceboy... I
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woman: I wanted to see him.
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Man:
What are you so upset about?
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Girl: I wanted to see him.
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They said he was
coming round the back.
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I've been waiting
for ages to see him.
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Man: Why are you so upset?
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Girl: He's smashing.
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Girl 2: I kissed him!
I kissed his hand!
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David: J“ hallo spaceboy I
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I hallo, hallo. I
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Dick cavett: Rumors
and questions have arisen,
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such as who is he, what is he,
where did he come from?
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Is he a creature
of a foreign power?
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Is he a creep? Is he dangerous?
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Is he smart, dumb,
nice to his parents,
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real, a put-on, crazy,
sane, man, woman, robot?
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What is this?
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Ladies and gentlemen,
David bowie.
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I solemn faced I
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I the village settles down I
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I undetected by the stars I
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I hangman plays the mandolin I
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I before he goes to sleep I
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I and the last thing
on his mind I
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I is the wild eyed boy
imprisoned I
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I 'neath the covered
wooden shaft I
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I folds the rope into its bag I
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I blows his pipe of smolders I
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I blankets smoke into the room I
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I and the day
will end for some I
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I as the night begins for one I
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I staring through the message
in his eyes I
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I lies a solitary son I
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I from the mountain
called freecloud I
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I where the eagle dare not fly I
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I and the Patience in his sigh I
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I gives no indication I
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I for the townsmen to decide I
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I so the village
dreadful yawns I
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I pronouncing gross diversion I
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I as the label for the dog I
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I oh, "it's the madness
in his eyes" I
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I as he breaks
the night to cry I
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I it's really me I
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I really you and really me I
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I it's so hard
for us to really be I
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I really you and really me I
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I you'll lose me,
though I'm always I
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I really free I
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j'yeah... I
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I Jimmy rapped all night
about his suicide I
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I how he'd kick it in the head
when he was 25 I
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I all that speed jive I
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I don't want to stay alive
when you're 25 I
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I Lucy's stealing clothes
from unlocked cars I
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I Freddy's got spots I
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I from ripping off the stars
from his face, honey I
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I a funky little boat race I
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I the television man is crazy I
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I saying we're juvenile
delinquent wrecks I
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I but, man, I need a TV
when I've got t. Rex I
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I hey, brother, you guessed I
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I I'm a dude I
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I all the young dudes I
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I carry the news I
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I boogaloo dudes I
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I carry the news I
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I all the young dudes I
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I carry the news I
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I boogaloo dudes yeah I
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I carry the news I
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I wake up you sleepy head I
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I put on some clothes,
shake up your bed I
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I put another log
on the fire for me I
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I I've made some
breakfast and coffee I
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I I look out my window
what do I see I
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I a crack in the sky
and a hand... I
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I reaching down... I
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I to me... I
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I all the nightmares
came today I
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I and it looks as though
they're here to stay... I
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I it's a god-awful
small affair I
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I to the girl with
the mousy hair I
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I but her mummy
is yelling, "no" I
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I and her daddy
has told her to go I
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I but her friend is
nowhere to be seen... I
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man: He's just
another fella, you know?
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Woman: No, he's not.
He's different.
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Man: Well, nobody like
him can produce the music.
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Man: Davie's the greatest,
and I'll say it again.
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Dave's the greatest,
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and I'll say it again,
Dave's the greatest.
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And I seen him onstage,
and he was fantastic.
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I'll follow that bloke anywhere
'cause he's the greatest.
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And I'll say it again,
he's the greatest.
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Man 2: Listen, you don't have
to be bent to wear makeup.
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It looks good,
so why not wear it?
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Woman: Even if it's camp,
but he's sexy, isn't he?
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Sort of thing, really.
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David: If I can
tart it all up enough,
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maybe people will see that it
has a lot to do with just them.
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Interviewer:
What, with reflection?
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David: Yeah, that it is really
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a reflection
of what they're like.
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Host: Mr. Powell, Mr. Jenkins.
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Businessmen in general...
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Best watch it.
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Interviewer: How are you?
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David: I'm very well,
thank you. How are you?
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Interviewer I'm fine.
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David: Good. How are you?
How are you?
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Interviewer: You, uh,
have to get the gear on
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in order to project yourself.
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I mean, were you a nobody
who suddenly thought,
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"Jesus, I must get into
the scene by some other way"?
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David: I never asked
Jesus for a think, no.
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It was always
on my own initiative.
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And...
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When I was 14, I became a mod,
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and it just carried
on from there.
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I've always dressed
in what I considered clothes
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that are exciting for me,
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um, to prevent me
becoming humdrum
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so that I would receive
reaction from people
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which would
encourage me to write.
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Interviewer: You will have
obviously as many men followers
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- as you have women followers.
- David: Yes.
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Interviewer: I mean,
you haven't been shy about
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declaring a certain
air of bisexuality.
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David: Not at all.
I know quite a few men.
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Woman: Some people feel you're...
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By saying you're bisexual.
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By... by kind of flaunting
that in a way...
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David: Who's flaunting it?
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Interviewer: Why do
you think that bisexuality in,
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say '72, '73 has become
a common... not a common,
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but an accepted kind of deal.
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Why do you think we
have moved into that
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era of liberal behavior?
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David: Once upon
a time, your father,
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my father, everybody's
father, I presume,
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wanted a good job, with a good
income, or reasonable income.
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Some chance of promotion
to secure their family life.
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Um, where's the camera?
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You're probably fine there,
and that's where it ended.
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But now, people
want a role in society.
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They want to feel that
they have a position.
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They want to be an individual,
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and I think there's
a lot of searching to find
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the individual within oneself.
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Interviewer: Right,
and how about the shoes?
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Are those men's shoes,
or women's shoes,
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or bisexual shoes?
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David: They're
shoe shoes, silly.
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David: There was a feeling
of excitement and titillation
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about moving in areas
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which were forbidden
to the rest of society.
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From micro to macro,
from yin to Yang,
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from male to female,
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there is no scissor cut.
No absolute.
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I believe that there was
an unconscious move to create
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a high priest form from
the line of the Greek gods
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who could procreate themselves.
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Somebody who
was at a super level
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to we regular mortals, because
of his androgynous nature,
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being somebody that incorporated
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both feminine
and masculine attributes.
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I I'm an alligator I
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I I'm a mama-papa
comin' for you I
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I I'm the space invader I
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I I'll be a rock 'n' rollin'
bitch for you I
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I keep your mouth shut I
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I you're squawking
like a pink monkey bird I
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j'and I'm bustin' up my
brains for the words I
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know I am.
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I keep your 'iectric eye
on me, babe I
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I put your ray gun to my head I
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I press your space
face close to mine, love I
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I freak out in a moonage
daydream, oh yeah! I
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I don't fake it baby I
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I lay the real thing on me I
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I you know,
the church of man, love I
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I is such a holy place to be I
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I don't fake it, baby I
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I make me know you really care I
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I make me jump into the air I
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I if you dare I
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I keep your 'iectric eye
on me, babe I
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I put your ray gun to my head I
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I press your space
face close to mine, love I
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I freak out in a moonage
daydream, oh yeah! I
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David: It was
a pudding, you know?
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It was a pudding of new ideas.
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I think we took it
on our shoulders
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that we were creating
the 21st century in 1971.
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We wanted to just blast
everything in the past.
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Question all the established
values, all the taboos.
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Everything is rubbish
and all rubbish is wonderful.
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I keep your 'iectric eye
on me, babe I
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I put your ray gun to my head I
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I press your space
face close to mine, love I
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I freak out in a moonage
daydream, oh yeah! I
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I freak out I
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I far out I
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Woman: I just didn't... to this.
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I've never seen anything
like this before.
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Woman 2: See, I'm just a space
cadet, he's the commander.
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Man: What universe is that?
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Man 2: Bowie universe.
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Woman: Now nobody's scared
to walk around like that,
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are they?
He's done it, ain't he.
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He's broke through
a barrier, now, ain't he?
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Woman 2: I guess I'm living
my fantasy, you know?
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Man: What's your fantasy?
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Woman 2: Oh, bowie.
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Man: I like people
who are ac/dc.
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You know what I mean?
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Interviewer: Do the clothes,
you are trying to say,
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are the clothes expressed
now your own personality?
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David: Um, no, that I've
never been quite clear about.
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I've never been sure
of my own personality.
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Interviewer:
That's very refreshing.
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That's a very refreshing thing
to hear somebody say that.
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Very. But can you fill us
in on the barest outlines?
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David: I'm a collector.
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Um, and I've always just
seemed to collect personalities,
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um, ideas. I have
a hodge podge philosophy
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- which really is very minimal.
- Um, What?
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Interviewer:
Do you believe in god?
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David: Um, I believe
in an energy form.
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I'm not... I wouldn't put a...
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Iwouldn't like to
put a name to it.
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Interviewer: Do you
indulge in any form of worship?
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David: Um, uh, life.
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I love life very much indeed.
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David: My strivings to have
some kind of spiritual base
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were really, really
strong all my life,
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and I think I tried
to amalgamate
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my own bedrock of spirituality.
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I mean, I was
a Buddhist on Tuesday,
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and I was into
Nietzsche by Friday.
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Interviewer: Some time
flirting with buddhism,
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and spending some
time in a Buddhist retreat.
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David: I mean, I felt at
the time that I was, you know,
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um, Buddha's answer to
everything he wanted man to be,
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but I'm... the one thing that
hung over from that time
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was the feeling
of impermanence and transience.
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That was the one thing
that really struck home
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about everything
that I was learning.
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Nothing's gonna
stay around very long.
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I mean, you know,
everything changes
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different rates.
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Some seem to me sort
of established for a bit,
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but they're only moving at
a slower rate than other things
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and they're all inevitably
sort of a change-over.
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For me, there's always
been a thread of merely,
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um, a search.
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Generally, I think the subject
matters always come back
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to this singular question
of nearly every artist,
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which is what's my
relationship with the universe?
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Whatever other form
it takes that's basic,
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I think that's probably
the essential question
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that all of us ask ourselves.
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A lot of us probably
on that last few minutes.
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Interviewer: What's Ziggy?
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David: Ziggy, I wanted...
I wanted to define
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the archetype
"Messiah rockstar."
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That's all I wanted to do,
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and I used the trappings
of kabuki theater,
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mime technique,
and fringe New York music.
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I love, love me do I
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I you know I love you I
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I I'll always be true I
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I so please I
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audience: I love me do I
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David: J“ loves to be loved I
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David: Ziggy was for
me a very simplistic thing:
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What it seemed to
be, an alien rockstar,
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but other people reread him
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and contributed more
information about Ziggy
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than I'd put into him.
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David: You know, we've
set ourselves up as such.
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We want it all.
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You know, we want
all the adulation,
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and people to read the lyrics,
and read and everything
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just to play the game.
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David: When I was really
young, one of the mysteries,
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the great mystery of rock,
was that I hardly understood
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a word of what they
were singing about.
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Fats domino, I still don't know
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one word of one lyric
that he ever wrote.
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I never understood
his pronunciation.
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And that made it even more
mysterious, and wonderful,
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and magic, you know?
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That he was talking
about something
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that I couldn't even
possibly start to understand,
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and I wanted in.
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I wanted to be in that place,
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this alternate
universe, you know?
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And that was so much
a part of the magic of music,
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and the same with art.
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I never really... I could
appreciate the vermeer,
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or tintoretto, or titian,
or something like that,
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but because it was
symbolic and figurative,
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it didn't... I was never that
impressed with virtuosity.
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I was, you know, I understood
that their technique
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and the way they applied
paint, and what they could do,
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and how they could
embrace light and all that,
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I understood and realized the...
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And I bowed
in humbleness at their...
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But it wasn't... I mean, that's
not what I wanted from it.
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I wanted to use art.
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I wanted to use art
in a different way in my life.
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I wanted a sense that...
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All the nooks and crannies
that we don't understand
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about the way that we live
through our day to day life,
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and I wanted that
shown to me, you know?
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Not in great clarity, but some
kind of physical manifestation
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of these are the areas of life
that are causing you grief,
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or euphoria, and you
don't really know why.
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Why is it that you
wake up one day,
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and an oak tree, hit by
the light in a certain way,
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will produce these
extraordinary feelings of glee,
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and absolute enjoyment,
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exhilaration at
actually being alive.
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Another day, you can wake up
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and that same tree
will seem like some
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caspar David friedrich
symbolic death, you know?
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And it will be dark and
negative and awful, you know?
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And it's that sense of why
those things happen?
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Why aren't things
the same every single day
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and produce exactly
the same feeling?
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And art always does that to me.
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Interviewer:
What are your hobbies?
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David: Well, where
would you like to start?
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Uh, I sculpt, paint,
and write films.
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Um, I make video television.
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Not programs,
but video television.
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- Interviewer: Of what?
- Um, art things that I do.
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Experimental video,
and cinematography.
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Interviewer: With
the art now that you create,
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the sculpturings...
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David: Yeah, I have...
You'll see.
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Interviewer: Is what...
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David: I play with video, yes.
I flirt an awful lot.
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I've asked again,
over the last few years,
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I've been identifying
again with a force.
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I don't know how I'm going to...
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How it will end up for me,
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but, um, I can't pinpoint it,
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but I do have
a very strong belief in...
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In a force, and I don't
know how it works.
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What I mean is, there is
something else other than us.
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That's as near
as I can get to it,
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and it may even just be
people on other planets
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that I'm thinking about.
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It may be god.
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It may be...
I don't know what it is,
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but there's a definite
force that I feel.
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Interviewer: Almost
like there's something else,
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- that we're just a part of it.
- David: Yeah. Yeah.
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Interviewer: That's beyond us.
That's my feeling as well.
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There's always been,
um, for me...
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I guess for a lot of people...
A certain sense of you
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that's other-worldly.
Um, and of course that's...
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I dilejo I
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I sula vie milejo I
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I mmm-omm... I
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David: Like anything useful,
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it's all got to do with fear.
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I think he's
broken his arm, sir.
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They wouldn't
bother with it, captain.
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I I'm closer to
the golden dawn I
439
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I immersed in
crowley's uniform I
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I of imagery... I
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interviewer:
Ziggy was a disguise?
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David: He was
a character that I created.
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I wanted to make films...
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I I'm living in
a silent film... I
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and I transposed most
of those ideas into music form.
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Interviewer: How
long is it gonna take
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before you're all David bowie?
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David: Oh never, you know.
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I'd run off
into something else, you know.
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I I'm frightened
by the total goal I
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I drawing to the ragged hole I
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interviewer: What's
"changes" all about?
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David: Changes.
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Someone putting
themselves through
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as much experimentation
to, you know,
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sort of treating oneself
as a bit of an experiment.
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I put myself in predicaments
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to see how I'll
cope with them a lot.
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It's sort of trying
to strengthen myself.
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I I'm the twisted name
in goebbel's eyes I
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I living proof
of Churchill's lies I
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I I'm destiny I
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I I'm torn between
the light and dark I
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I where others
see their targets I
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I in divine symmetry I
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I put myself in dangerous
situations, which I did.
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Put myself in any situation
which I feel I can't cope with.
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Interviewer: Dangerous
situations, such as what?
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Can you explain that?
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David: Yeah. Areas
where I have to be in,
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sort of, social
contact with people,
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which I'm not
very good at doing.
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I put myself in...
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Interviewer: I don't quite
know what you mean now.
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David: Well, I went to
Los Angeles and I lived there
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for a couple of years, which is
a city I really detest.
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- Interviewer: Yeah.
- David: So, iwent to
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live there to see what
would happen to my writing.
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Aretha Franklin: I when my soul
was in the lost and found... I
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interviewer: Since
you've been in america,
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you seem to have picked up
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on a lot of the idioms
and themes of American music,
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and American culture.
How has that happened?
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David: There's a fly
floating around in my milk.
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There's a foreign body
in it, you see?
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And it's getting a lot of milk.
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That's kind of how I feel.
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Aforeign body, and I just...
I couldn't help but soak it up.
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You know.
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I hated it when
I first came here.
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I couldn't see any of it.
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Look, a wax museum.
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Hey, a bleedin' wax museum
in the middle of a desert!
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You'd think it would
melt, wouldn't you?
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David: There's
a good, old circle thing,
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and it really is, it's uh,
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it's the decadence that
precedes the righteousness,
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and the morality
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of an extremely
right wing art form,
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which, in its right wing-ness
is in fact very liberal
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00:35:57,010 --> 00:35:58,980
because the faster you
can get rid of the right wings,
502
00:35:59,010 --> 00:36:02,050
and by accelerating it, then
you bring back.
503
00:36:02,090 --> 00:36:04,800
You've got to go
through the dictatorship.
504
00:36:04,850 --> 00:36:06,600
You've got to go
through the right wing...
505
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:07,890
David: Coveting the highest...
506
00:36:07,930 --> 00:36:09,980
David: Exactly.
507
00:36:10,020 --> 00:36:11,770
Man ray is suddenly
getting very popular...
508
00:36:13,690 --> 00:36:17,070
And it's... I mean, I... we...
I know, you know what's coming.
509
00:36:17,110 --> 00:36:22,820
I mean, baby, what is coming.
510
00:36:22,860 --> 00:36:24,280
Of course it is, yeah.
511
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,330
And we're going
to live through it.
512
00:36:26,370 --> 00:36:28,620
We're gonna be lucky enough.
513
00:36:28,660 --> 00:36:31,460
David: This ain't rock and roll!
514
00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:33,880
This is genocide!
515
00:36:57,070 --> 00:36:58,730
I I've come on a few years I
516
00:36:58,780 --> 00:37:00,990
I from my Hollywood highs I
517
00:37:01,030 --> 00:37:02,610
I the best of the last I
518
00:37:02,650 --> 00:37:04,860
I the cleanest star'
they ever had I
519
00:37:04,910 --> 00:37:06,700
I I'm stiff on my legend I
520
00:37:06,740 --> 00:37:08,620
I the films that I made I
521
00:37:08,660 --> 00:37:10,410
I forget that I'm fifty I
522
00:37:10,450 --> 00:37:12,540
I 'cause you just got paid I
523
00:37:12,580 --> 00:37:14,500
I crack, baby, crack I
524
00:37:14,540 --> 00:37:16,500
I show me you're real I
525
00:37:16,540 --> 00:37:20,170
I smack, baby, smack,
is that all that you feel I
526
00:37:20,210 --> 00:37:21,970
I suck, baby, suck I
527
00:37:22,010 --> 00:37:24,180
I give me your head I
528
00:37:24,220 --> 00:37:26,010
I before you start professing I
529
00:37:26,050 --> 00:37:29,140
I that you're
knocking me dead... I
530
00:37:29,180 --> 00:37:30,990
interviewer: You know,
you haven't... your accent,
531
00:37:31,020 --> 00:37:33,430
your voice, your method
of speech has not changed.
532
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,650
You've been away for two years.
533
00:37:35,690 --> 00:37:37,730
Does that mean you've been
locked away somewhere?
534
00:37:37,770 --> 00:37:39,230
David: Yes, I don't
talk to anybody.
535
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,200
Interviewer:
But do people talk to you?
536
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:45,780
David: I've heard
it rumored, yes.
537
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,780
I but since he pinned you,
baby I
538
00:37:48,830 --> 00:37:50,950
I you're a porcupine I
539
00:37:50,990 --> 00:37:54,580
I you sold me illusions
for a sack full of checks I
540
00:37:54,620 --> 00:37:58,330
I you've made a bad connection
'cause I just want your sex I
541
00:37:58,380 --> 00:38:00,380
I crack, baby, crack I
542
00:38:00,420 --> 00:38:02,510
I show me you're real I
543
00:38:02,550 --> 00:38:06,220
I smack, baby, smack,
is that all that you feel I
544
00:38:06,260 --> 00:38:08,220
I suck, baby, suck I
545
00:38:08,260 --> 00:38:09,640
I give me your head I
546
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,560
I before you start professing I
547
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,980
I that you're knocking me dead I
548
00:38:15,270 --> 00:38:16,850
ioh... j“
549
00:38:22,570 --> 00:38:24,110
I oh stay I
550
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,780
I don't you dare I
551
00:38:30,370 --> 00:38:32,330
I oh yeah... I
552
00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:37,290
I don't you dare I
553
00:38:39,790 --> 00:38:42,840
I oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I
554
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,210
j'yeah... I
555
00:39:20,210 --> 00:39:22,090
Dick: Some people thought...
556
00:39:22,130 --> 00:39:24,100
There's a lady who said
"I don't know if he'd be...
557
00:39:24,130 --> 00:39:25,900
If I'd want to meet him.
He would make me very nervous.
558
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,440
I have a feeling
he's into black magic,
559
00:39:27,470 --> 00:39:29,220
and that sort of thing."
560
00:39:29,260 --> 00:39:31,320
And other people see you as
just a very skillful performer
561
00:39:31,340 --> 00:39:33,430
who changes from time to time,
562
00:39:33,470 --> 00:39:34,720
from one thing to another.
563
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,810
David: Yeah.
Well, both of that is...
564
00:39:36,850 --> 00:39:38,270
Dick: All of the above?
565
00:39:39,980 --> 00:39:41,560
Rock 'n' roll with me
566
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,440
I you always were
the one that knew I
567
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,070
I they sold us
for the likes of you I
568
00:39:55,370 --> 00:39:58,540
I I never wanted anything I
569
00:39:58,580 --> 00:40:01,080
I but new surroundings I
570
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,960
I a room to rent I
571
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:10,840
I while the lizards
lay lying in the heat I
572
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,530
interviewer: What kind
of childhood did you have?
573
00:40:12,550 --> 00:40:14,050
David: Oh, incredibly ordinary.
574
00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:15,890
- Interviewer: Ordinary?
- David: Yeah.
575
00:40:15,930 --> 00:40:17,530
- Interviewer: In what way?
- David: Well, I mean,
576
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,390
it was regular.
I went to school, I ate.
577
00:40:21,730 --> 00:40:24,150
David: In suburbia,
you're given the impression
578
00:40:24,190 --> 00:40:26,150
that nothing culturally
belongs to you.
579
00:40:26,190 --> 00:40:28,280
That you are sort
of in this wasteland,
580
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,740
and I think there's
a passion for most people
581
00:40:30,780 --> 00:40:33,280
who have an iota of curiosity
582
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,740
about them to escape
and get out.
583
00:40:35,780 --> 00:40:40,290
I when you rock 'n' roll
with me I
584
00:40:43,290 --> 00:40:47,420
I no one else I'd rather be I
585
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:55,890
I nobody here can do it for me I
586
00:40:55,930 --> 00:40:57,810
I I'm in tears again I
587
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:06,810
I when you rock 'n' roll
with me I
588
00:41:10,490 --> 00:41:12,320
David: One of my siblings
589
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,990
meant so much to
me in my early years,
590
00:41:15,030 --> 00:41:17,580
and his name was Terry,
and he was my half-brother,
591
00:41:17,620 --> 00:41:19,160
my mother's son.
592
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,720
David: Hey, hey, good evening,
buffalo.
593
00:41:20,750 --> 00:41:23,460
It's nice to be here.
594
00:41:23,500 --> 00:41:27,790
David: He was living between
our family and another family,
595
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,250
and the periods
that I did see him,
596
00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:33,300
it seemed to me that he had
more curiosity about the world
597
00:41:33,340 --> 00:41:34,880
than anybody I'd met.
598
00:41:36,430 --> 00:41:41,180
And the first real,
major event for me was
599
00:41:41,220 --> 00:41:43,390
when he passed Jack kerouac's
on the road on to me,
600
00:41:43,430 --> 00:41:46,730
which really changed my life.
601
00:41:46,770 --> 00:41:50,270
And he would also introduce me
to people like John Coltrane,
602
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,940
which was way above my head,
603
00:41:51,980 --> 00:41:53,950
but I wanted to read
what he read,
604
00:41:53,990 --> 00:41:56,450
and I wanted to listen
to what he listened to,
605
00:41:56,490 --> 00:41:59,370
as one does with
an older brother.
606
00:41:59,410 --> 00:42:04,000
I when you rock 'n' roll
with me I
607
00:42:06,420 --> 00:42:11,170
I no one else I'd rather be I
608
00:42:13,340 --> 00:42:18,890
I nobody here
can do it for me... I
609
00:42:18,930 --> 00:42:21,060
David: I think Terry
probably gave me a great...
610
00:42:21,100 --> 00:42:22,720
The greatest serviceable
education
611
00:42:22,770 --> 00:42:24,560
I could ever have had.
612
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,980
I mean, he just introduced
me to the outside things,
613
00:42:28,020 --> 00:42:30,360
kinds of books,
and kinds of music
614
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,690
and attitudes that just weren't
615
00:42:32,730 --> 00:42:34,400
the currency
in the area that I grew up.
616
00:42:35,990 --> 00:42:38,280
And then he would go
away for long periods,
617
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,490
and one period he went
away and joined the raf.
618
00:42:43,370 --> 00:42:48,880
When he came back, he had very
evident signs of schizophrenia,
619
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,920
and he stayed in hospital
for the rest of his life.
620
00:42:57,130 --> 00:43:01,850
I when you rock 'n' roll
with me I
621
00:43:04,270 --> 00:43:08,690
I no one else I'd rather be I
622
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:16,320
I nobody here
can do it for me... I
623
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,660
David: I think it made me
worry about my own disposition,
624
00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:23,490
and whether I just
had eccentric ideas,
625
00:43:23,530 --> 00:43:26,500
or whether I was
heading somewhere else.
626
00:43:26,540 --> 00:43:32,170
I when you rock 'n' roll,
rock 'n' roll with me I
627
00:43:33,710 --> 00:43:38,260
I no one else I'd rather,
I'd rather be I
628
00:43:41,050 --> 00:43:45,510
I nobody down here
can do it for me I
629
00:43:48,180 --> 00:43:49,940
I I'm in tears I
630
00:43:51,900 --> 00:43:53,190
I I'm in tears I
631
00:43:55,480 --> 00:44:00,860
I when you rock 'n' roll
with me... I
632
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:04,780
I oh yeah I
633
00:44:06,740 --> 00:44:09,750
I rock 'n' roll with me I
634
00:44:09,790 --> 00:44:11,670
I oh-hoo yeah. I
635
00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:22,110
Interviewer: I understand
that you have a fear
636
00:44:22,130 --> 00:44:24,180
because there was
mental illness in your family,
637
00:44:24,220 --> 00:44:27,010
that you have a fear of
mental illness. Is that true?
638
00:44:27,060 --> 00:44:30,230
David: Um, no, I developed
a system against it.
639
00:44:30,270 --> 00:44:33,560
I think that probably became
part of the therapy of art,
640
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,110
and I was fortunate
enough to be able to
641
00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:38,690
express any visions
that I had in my head.
642
00:44:38,730 --> 00:44:40,250
- Interviewer: Yeah.
- David: Very outwardly.
643
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,820
David: Gradually
learning to do without sleep.
644
00:44:45,780 --> 00:44:48,540
David: It's a labyrinthine
existence that we live,
645
00:44:48,580 --> 00:44:51,460
and so it makes sense
for me to put together
646
00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:53,040
elements in a song which
647
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,040
wouldn't naturally
be good bedfellows.
648
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,260
I guess I'm trying
to articulate...
649
00:45:04,430 --> 00:45:06,550
Those mysterious
corners of the mind
650
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,510
where there exist
grains of truth
651
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,430
that we don't often touch on,
652
00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:12,890
because we don't have
the words to capture them.
653
00:45:15,190 --> 00:45:17,980
So, we'll write on three or
four different subject matters,
654
00:45:18,020 --> 00:45:21,940
and then integrate them
together by cutting them up.
655
00:45:21,990 --> 00:45:25,240
What I've used it for
more than anything else
656
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:30,080
is igniting anything that
might be in my imagination.
657
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,840
I've tried doing it
with diaries and things,
658
00:45:31,870 --> 00:45:34,420
and I was finding out
amazing things about me
659
00:45:34,460 --> 00:45:36,540
and what I'd done
and where I was going.
660
00:45:38,090 --> 00:45:39,920
A lot of the things I had done,
661
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,470
it seemed that it would
predict things about the future
662
00:45:42,510 --> 00:45:45,470
and tell me a lot
about the past.
663
00:45:45,510 --> 00:45:49,810
I suppose it's a very
western tarot. I don't know.
664
00:45:49,850 --> 00:45:51,810
Obviously, one
is trying to always
665
00:45:51,850 --> 00:45:53,850
reevaluate one's personality,
666
00:45:53,890 --> 00:45:56,560
and understand why one works.
667
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,530
I think a lot of artists deal
with loneliness and solitude.
668
00:46:03,690 --> 00:46:07,870
An artist does tend
to examine the world
669
00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:09,740
through his relationship to it,
670
00:46:09,780 --> 00:46:11,620
and so that produces
671
00:46:11,660 --> 00:46:13,700
a very introverted looking
lot of work.
672
00:46:13,750 --> 00:46:16,710
I don't feel lonely.
I apply that to my work.
673
00:46:16,750 --> 00:46:21,460
I sense a feeling of loneliness
from my work when I look at it,
674
00:46:21,500 --> 00:46:24,760
but I don't feel like
a solitary person myself,
675
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,590
but it seems
to show up in my work,
676
00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:28,890
and it's like taking
a photograph
677
00:46:28,930 --> 00:46:30,850
and then developing the negative
678
00:46:30,890 --> 00:46:33,350
and seeing another
person standing behind you.
679
00:46:33,390 --> 00:46:39,230
I who will love Aladdin sane I
680
00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:44,030
I battle cries and champagne
just in time for sunrise I
681
00:46:44,070 --> 00:46:49,320
I who will love Aladdin sane I
682
00:46:51,780 --> 00:46:53,990
I motor sensational I
683
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,710
I Paris or maybe hell I
684
00:46:58,750 --> 00:47:00,330
I I'm waiting I
685
00:47:00,380 --> 00:47:02,710
I clutches of sad remains I
686
00:47:04,670 --> 00:47:08,630
I waits for Aladdin sane
you'll make it I
687
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:14,890
I who will love Aladdin sane I
688
00:47:14,930 --> 00:47:18,520
I millions weep a fountain,
just in case of sunrise... I
689
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:19,900
interviewer:
With your background,
690
00:47:19,940 --> 00:47:23,610
why were you
intrigued by all this?
691
00:47:23,650 --> 00:47:27,570
David: Um, it was... I mean,
692
00:47:27,610 --> 00:47:29,820
it filled a vast expanse
of my imagination.
693
00:47:29,860 --> 00:47:31,320
I was always pretty imaginative.
694
00:47:33,580 --> 00:47:36,370
And the imagination
can dry up in
695
00:47:36,410 --> 00:47:38,620
wherever you're
living in england, often.
696
00:47:38,660 --> 00:47:40,920
I mean, if there's
nothing to keep it going.
697
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,880
It just supplied a need in me.
698
00:47:44,380 --> 00:47:46,800
American became
a myth-land for me.
699
00:47:53,010 --> 00:47:55,760
David: We're not stopped.
Is there anything behind us?
700
00:48:01,150 --> 00:48:02,730
Interviewer: Let's
go with him now live,
701
00:48:02,770 --> 00:48:04,360
by satellite,
702
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,980
to beautiful downtown Burbank
in Los Angeles.
703
00:48:09,110 --> 00:48:10,210
Audience member:
Is it true that you're gonna be
704
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:11,410
teaming up with...
705
00:48:12,620 --> 00:48:14,490
Every Avenue.
706
00:48:14,530 --> 00:48:17,290
It's very calm, and it's a kind
of a superficial calmness
707
00:48:17,330 --> 00:48:19,430
that they've developed to
underplay the fact that it's...
708
00:48:19,460 --> 00:48:22,330
There's a lot of high
pressure here,
709
00:48:22,370 --> 00:48:24,210
as it's a very big
entertainment industry area.
710
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,710
And you get this feeling
of unease with everybody.
711
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,130
It's a very big
entertainment area.
712
00:48:30,170 --> 00:48:31,630
David: The first time
that it really
713
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,140
came home to me
what a strange...
714
00:48:36,140 --> 00:48:40,020
About the churches
designed by an architect...
715
00:48:40,060 --> 00:48:41,810
David: Arthur, would
you please slow down?
716
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,120
Interviewer: We're
bouncing backwards and forwards
717
00:48:45,150 --> 00:48:46,570
on the satellite at the moment.
718
00:48:46,610 --> 00:48:49,530
I mean, our sound
is bouncing around.
719
00:48:49,570 --> 00:48:50,740
Yes, I can see it.
720
00:48:52,780 --> 00:48:54,320
It'll be all right in a minute.
721
00:49:00,290 --> 00:49:01,610
Interviewer:
Are you there, David?
722
00:49:02,710 --> 00:49:03,920
Are you there, David?
723
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,830
Bedroom in the sky.
724
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,600
Interviewer:
Are you there, Mr. David bowie?
725
00:49:16,930 --> 00:49:19,970
David: I think
that I felt often,
726
00:49:20,020 --> 00:49:24,480
ever since I was a teenager,
727
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:29,690
um, so adrift, and so
not part of everyone I saw.
728
00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:32,570
There's so many dark secrets
729
00:49:32,610 --> 00:49:33,990
about my family in the cupboard
730
00:49:34,030 --> 00:49:36,780
that it kind of made me feel
731
00:49:36,820 --> 00:49:39,240
very much on the outside
of everything,
732
00:49:39,290 --> 00:49:44,710
and because of that, I felt
there was no basis to my life,
733
00:49:44,750 --> 00:49:46,710
like everybody else
seemed to have.
734
00:49:48,250 --> 00:49:50,630
Which of course is ridiculous.
735
00:49:50,670 --> 00:49:53,340
Probably, I would
do things to prove that
736
00:49:53,380 --> 00:49:56,220
I had some
emotional substance...
737
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,100
When in fact I didn't.
738
00:50:40,100 --> 00:50:43,060
David: Thematically, I've always
dealt with isolation
739
00:50:43,100 --> 00:50:44,890
in everything I've written,
I think.
740
00:50:44,930 --> 00:50:47,140
Interviewer: If you're
interested in isolation,
741
00:50:47,190 --> 00:50:50,020
is it because you think that
a person in an isolated state
742
00:50:50,060 --> 00:50:53,190
feel greater emotions
than they do
743
00:50:53,230 --> 00:50:56,030
when they're surrounded
by people and things?
744
00:50:56,070 --> 00:50:58,820
David:
I think if he is in isolation,
745
00:50:58,860 --> 00:51:03,450
instead of receiving
the whole world as his home,
746
00:51:03,490 --> 00:51:06,620
he tends to create
a micro-world inside himself.
747
00:51:06,660 --> 00:51:10,420
Um, and it's that peculiar
part of the human mind
748
00:51:10,460 --> 00:51:12,880
that fascinates me
about the small universes
749
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,920
that can be created
inside the mind.
750
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,340
Some of them
fairly schizophrenic
751
00:51:18,380 --> 00:51:19,470
and quite off the wall.
752
00:51:22,890 --> 00:51:25,720
It feels now that
I don't come from anywhere,
753
00:51:25,770 --> 00:51:28,980
but I was born in Brixton.
754
00:51:29,020 --> 00:51:30,460
Interviewer:
When were you born? What year?
755
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,610
David: 1947. January the eighth.
756
00:51:33,650 --> 00:51:36,740
Makes me a capricorn
with an aquarius ascendant
757
00:51:36,780 --> 00:51:38,740
and a Leo descendant.
758
00:51:42,030 --> 00:51:43,640
Interviewer: How much now
is left of the lad
759
00:51:43,660 --> 00:51:45,240
from Brixton, do you think?
760
00:51:45,290 --> 00:51:46,430
David: Not very much,
I would think.
761
00:51:46,450 --> 00:51:48,370
I know, you know.
762
00:51:48,410 --> 00:51:52,290
I never got... I never became
who I should have been.
763
00:51:52,330 --> 00:51:54,290
I've spent an awful lot
of my life
764
00:51:54,340 --> 00:51:56,840
actually looking
for myself, you know?
765
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,840
And understanding what it was
that i-why-what I existed for.
766
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,680
What was it that really
made me happy in life?
767
00:52:03,890 --> 00:52:05,970
And who exactly, or was...
768
00:52:06,010 --> 00:52:08,130
Who are the parts of myself
I was trying to hide from?
769
00:52:10,730 --> 00:52:13,860
I think a lot of us
have huge senses of denial
770
00:52:13,900 --> 00:52:16,070
about who we are and
where we exist in the world
771
00:52:18,570 --> 00:52:20,110
I really wanted to
sort of, you know,
772
00:52:20,150 --> 00:52:21,750
be very emotionally involved
with people.
773
00:52:22,780 --> 00:52:24,370
I didn't know how to do it.
774
00:52:24,410 --> 00:52:25,910
You know,
my parents were like that,
775
00:52:25,950 --> 00:52:27,620
and I guess you kind of,
as they say,
776
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,080
they pass on a lot of faults.
777
00:52:35,250 --> 00:52:36,930
Dick: What do
your parents do for a living?
778
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:41,340
My father's dead,
and my mother has a small flat,
779
00:52:41,380 --> 00:52:44,680
and I think she's got a dayjob.
780
00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:46,360
Dick: Does she have trouble
explaining you to the neighbors
781
00:52:46,390 --> 00:52:48,640
who say, "are you
any relation to that..."
782
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,680
David: I think she pretends
I'm not hers.
783
00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:54,610
Nah, she's uh,
she doesn't talk much.
784
00:52:54,650 --> 00:52:57,820
You know, she doesn't,
um, I don't think we really...
785
00:52:57,860 --> 00:52:59,610
We were never
that close particularly.
786
00:52:59,650 --> 00:53:01,070
We have an understanding.
787
00:53:01,110 --> 00:53:02,110
Dick: Yeah.
788
00:53:05,870 --> 00:53:07,910
Interviewer:
Was it a happy marriage?
789
00:53:07,950 --> 00:53:10,540
Not necessarily
terribly loving or anything,
790
00:53:10,580 --> 00:53:13,080
in terms of
no real physical affection,
791
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,500
or even they
didn't really articulate
792
00:53:17,540 --> 00:53:18,670
any love for each other.
793
00:53:26,220 --> 00:53:28,640
There's an awful lot of
emotional/spiritual mutilation
794
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,310
goes on in my family.
795
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,610
Interviewer: Did you like any
of the traditional people
796
00:53:38,650 --> 00:53:40,690
that you're supposed to like?
797
00:53:40,730 --> 00:53:42,320
Like, did you like
winnie the pooh?
798
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:43,610
David: No. No.
799
00:53:43,650 --> 00:53:45,160
Interviewer: Rupert bear?
800
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:46,760
David: No.
No I didn't. I didn't like...
801
00:53:46,780 --> 00:53:48,330
Interviewer:
Did you have a Teddy bear?
802
00:53:48,370 --> 00:53:50,330
David: No, I didn't.
I don't think...
803
00:53:53,500 --> 00:53:56,290
I can't remember having
anything like that at all.
804
00:53:56,330 --> 00:53:59,290
No, I never liked, um,
children's things very much.
805
00:54:24,700 --> 00:54:26,260
Interviewer: You know,
since you've been away,
806
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,030
or quite recently,
the newspapers
807
00:54:28,070 --> 00:54:30,330
having been having a bit
of a bash at your mother?
808
00:54:33,620 --> 00:54:36,330
And saying that she's
a bit tearful from time to time.
809
00:54:36,370 --> 00:54:39,630
And that she's suffered
a certain amount of anguish,
810
00:54:39,670 --> 00:54:41,800
and that she doesn't hear
from you an awful lot.
811
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,010
Is that eyewash or is it real?
812
00:54:49,260 --> 00:54:50,800
David: There's some kind
of traumatism
813
00:54:50,850 --> 00:54:53,350
often goes on
in our childhoods I think.
814
00:54:53,390 --> 00:54:55,520
I think, that are...
815
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,450
Makes us crave some kind
of strange affection, you know?
816
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:58,810
It's sort of an...
817
00:54:58,850 --> 00:55:00,480
Often you'll find
that the person
818
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,480
who craves a lot of affection
819
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,530
actually isn't terribly good
at giving it.
820
00:55:08,070 --> 00:55:11,160
Interviewer: Does that mean
you have to separate yourself
821
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,290
quite a lot from, say,
falling in love
822
00:55:14,330 --> 00:55:16,790
and getting very involved
with a person?
823
00:55:16,830 --> 00:55:20,380
Um, oh no, I think, no.
824
00:55:20,420 --> 00:55:21,790
I think quite the reverse.
825
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,920
Interviewer: But, love,
falling in love,
826
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,090
is different from then going on
to love that person.
827
00:55:27,130 --> 00:55:28,430
Yes, it is. Yes.
828
00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:30,640
And once you've
loved somebody a lot,
829
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,530
it means that you've got
to share your life with them.
830
00:55:32,550 --> 00:55:34,410
- That's what I really...
- David: No, I don't think so.
831
00:55:34,430 --> 00:55:36,930
I think you can love somebody
from afar.
832
00:55:36,980 --> 00:55:39,560
But if you then decided
not to love them from afar,
833
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,110
you as an artist
would have to give up
834
00:55:42,150 --> 00:55:43,940
quite a lot of your time
to them.
835
00:55:43,980 --> 00:55:45,360
Yes, and I can't do that.
836
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:46,790
Interviewer:
That's what I was wondering,
837
00:55:46,820 --> 00:55:48,400
whether you did...
Whether you did that.
838
00:55:48,450 --> 00:55:50,090
David: No, no, no, love can't
get quite in my way,
839
00:55:50,110 --> 00:55:54,120
because I feel... I shelter
myself from it incredibly.
840
00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:01,170
Interviewer: Do you feel removed
from the body and the feel
841
00:56:01,210 --> 00:56:04,000
that you create on the planet?
842
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,210
David:
Until I'm performing or writing
843
00:56:06,250 --> 00:56:08,920
I mainly feel pretty much
of an empty vessel.
844
00:56:10,510 --> 00:56:11,860
Interviewer: When you're
performing and writing,
845
00:56:11,890 --> 00:56:13,300
you're fulfilled?
846
00:56:13,350 --> 00:56:16,180
David:
I don't particularly feel...
847
00:56:16,220 --> 00:56:19,770
I ground control to major Tom I
848
00:56:23,230 --> 00:56:26,480
I ground control to major Tom I
849
00:56:30,610 --> 00:56:35,450
I take your protein pills
and put your helmet on I
850
00:56:37,540 --> 00:56:40,620
I ground control to major Tom I
851
00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:48,170
I commencing countdown,
engines on I
852
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,760
I check ignition I
853
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:58,470
I and may god's love
be with you I
854
00:57:09,190 --> 00:57:12,860
I this is ground control
to major Tom I
855
00:57:14,110 --> 00:57:16,950
I you've really made the grade I
856
00:57:18,910 --> 00:57:22,000
I and the papers want to know I
857
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,370
I whose shirts you wear I
858
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,380
I now it's time
to leave the capsule I
859
00:57:29,420 --> 00:57:32,010
I if you dare I
860
00:57:34,010 --> 00:57:38,760
I this is major Tom
to ground control I
861
00:57:38,810 --> 00:57:41,890
I I'm stepping
through the door I
862
00:57:43,770 --> 00:57:48,400
I and I'm floating
in a most peculiar way I
863
00:57:50,940 --> 00:57:55,490
I and the stars look
very different today I
864
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,240
I for here I
865
00:58:01,290 --> 00:58:04,080
iam I sitting in my tin can I
866
00:58:05,790 --> 00:58:10,210
I far above the world I
867
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,680
I planet earth is blue I
868
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,680
I and there's nothing I can do I
869
00:59:44,010 --> 00:59:45,810
David:
Well, an awful lot of changes
870
00:59:45,850 --> 00:59:47,480
with my musical career
871
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,770
were challenges to myself.
872
00:59:49,810 --> 00:59:52,730
I have to feel that I'm
stepping on new ground,
873
00:59:52,770 --> 00:59:55,230
that the ice beneath my feet
is very thin.
874
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:56,740
Any second, I could crack it
875
00:59:56,780 --> 00:59:58,200
and just plunge through
and drown.
876
00:59:59,990 --> 01:00:02,450
I got to a point in Los Angeles
877
01:00:02,490 --> 01:00:05,120
where I got very tired
with my method of writing,
878
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,210
and I wanted to invent
a new musical language.
879
01:00:10,540 --> 01:00:12,500
I knew I had to get
to an environment
880
01:00:12,540 --> 01:00:14,920
that was totally different
to Los Angeles.
881
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,090
So I thought
of the most arduous city
882
01:00:17,130 --> 01:00:19,590
that I could think of,
and it was west Berlin.
883
01:00:19,630 --> 01:00:22,890
They don't give an fa about
who you are in Berlin.
884
01:00:22,930 --> 01:00:25,350
The trappings of rock and roll
don't mean anything to them.
885
01:00:25,390 --> 01:00:27,060
So, I could walk around,
buy me own food,
886
01:00:27,100 --> 01:00:29,350
and just lease
a small apartment,
887
01:00:29,390 --> 01:00:31,730
which I did above
an automobile spare parts shop.
888
01:00:42,030 --> 01:00:45,870
I didn't have
the necessary verbal equipment
889
01:00:45,910 --> 01:00:47,990
to describe what I was seeing,
890
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:49,480
and that's where
I needed assistance.
891
01:01:00,470 --> 01:01:02,090
So, I contacted Brian eno,
892
01:01:02,130 --> 01:01:04,640
who is definitely one
of the keenest brains
893
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,550
of modern music, and I said,
894
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,430
"look, Brian, I need to know
some new processes,
895
01:01:09,470 --> 01:01:11,140
"and new methods of writing.
896
01:01:11,180 --> 01:01:13,060
Please help me,
otherwise I'm packing it in."
897
01:01:14,690 --> 01:01:16,560
We started working on a series
898
01:01:16,610 --> 01:01:19,570
of processes and methods of
writing in the studio in Berlin
899
01:01:19,610 --> 01:01:22,150
to invent, a different kind
of linguistics to work with.
900
01:01:40,090 --> 01:01:41,880
Most of the things
that I do these days,
901
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,260
I go in with very little
preparation.
902
01:01:44,300 --> 01:01:46,800
There's no governor,
no controller.
903
01:01:46,850 --> 01:01:49,640
Every track is written
with a different process,
904
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,850
from spontaneous singing,
905
01:01:51,890 --> 01:01:53,120
I didn't know
what I was gonna sing,
906
01:01:53,140 --> 01:01:54,730
or how I was gonna sing it,
907
01:01:54,770 --> 01:01:56,350
and I just stood
in front of the mic,
908
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,940
right down
to fragmented, pre-thought,
909
01:01:58,980 --> 01:02:01,780
analyzed and processed writings
of burroughs' school.
910
01:02:04,070 --> 01:02:05,990
It probably touches areas
of emotion
911
01:02:06,030 --> 01:02:07,870
that aren't normally dwelt upon
912
01:02:07,910 --> 01:02:09,740
because they're arrived
at other than
913
01:02:09,780 --> 01:02:12,040
by the regular channels
of emotive thought.
914
01:02:31,060 --> 01:02:33,390
I blue, blue, electric blue I
915
01:02:33,430 --> 01:02:35,520
I that's the color
of my living room I
916
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:36,690
I where I will live I
917
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:40,730
I blue, blue I
918
01:02:44,610 --> 01:02:46,780
I pale blinds drawn all day I
919
01:02:46,820 --> 01:02:48,700
I nothing to read
and nothing to say I
920
01:02:52,870 --> 01:02:54,120
I blue, blue pale blinds I
921
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,340
I I will dream of other lands I
922
01:03:00,380 --> 01:03:02,920
I waiting for the gift
of sound and vision I
923
01:03:04,670 --> 01:03:06,470
David: Most of the things
that I do these days
924
01:03:06,510 --> 01:03:09,090
are on the occasion
of the studio.
925
01:03:09,140 --> 01:03:11,680
I go in with very little
preparation,
926
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,470
just throw ideas out,
927
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,230
and you might make
little experiments sort of say,
928
01:03:16,270 --> 01:03:17,810
look here's 50 seconds.
929
01:03:17,850 --> 01:03:20,440
Play 10 notes on that 50 seconds
930
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,230
and don't repeat
the same note twice.
931
01:03:28,030 --> 01:03:30,200
Now, that sounds
like an awful easy thing to do.
932
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,080
Well, it is.
933
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:33,660
See, you must understand,
934
01:03:33,700 --> 01:03:35,370
I mean, it sounds
incredibly indulgent,
935
01:03:35,410 --> 01:03:39,210
and indeed it is
because what I'm trying to do
936
01:03:39,250 --> 01:03:42,630
is mold the traditional
methods of rock and roll...
937
01:03:44,130 --> 01:03:45,460
With newer processes.
938
01:03:47,420 --> 01:03:51,140
Trying to find
a new form of language.
939
01:03:51,180 --> 01:03:52,610
Interviewer: Do you think
you have influence
940
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,060
on their thinking, though?
941
01:03:54,100 --> 01:03:55,970
David: No.
942
01:03:56,020 --> 01:03:58,180
And that's what I'm trying
to do with the new music,
943
01:03:58,230 --> 01:04:01,230
is find a new language
which doesn't... it isn't that...
944
01:04:01,270 --> 01:04:03,730
Doesn't have that kind
of image influence.
945
01:04:06,530 --> 01:04:08,460
Interviewer: Do you think people
will understand that language?
946
01:04:08,490 --> 01:04:10,320
David: Yes.
947
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,220
Because I think people,
especially in the city context,
948
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:13,830
think in fragments.
949
01:04:13,870 --> 01:04:16,620
The city person will see
a milk advert on the street,
950
01:04:16,660 --> 01:04:18,330
and be thinking
"milk, what's gonna...
951
01:04:18,370 --> 01:04:19,680
"What are we gonna have
for dinner?
952
01:04:19,710 --> 01:04:21,370
"Boy getting knocked down
by a bus,
953
01:04:21,420 --> 01:04:23,670
crashed against a wall..."
That kind of thing.
954
01:04:23,710 --> 01:04:25,380
So, he's thinking in terms of,
955
01:04:25,420 --> 01:04:28,920
maybe 1,000 different images
at any given time.
956
01:04:28,970 --> 01:04:32,640
And the language that Brian
and I are sort of producing
957
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,430
is a language that can relate
to that way of thinking.
958
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,280
David: We live within
this manifested idea
959
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,110
of what should be form,
960
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,870
and what we try and keep out
of our existence is chaos,
961
01:04:55,910 --> 01:04:59,080
which is a very real part
of our lives,
962
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,870
and our refusal to accept chaos
963
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,000
as being integral
to our existence,
964
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,500
I think, has been one
of the greatest mistakes
965
01:05:06,540 --> 01:05:08,880
as a civilization
that we've made.
966
01:05:10,670 --> 01:05:12,090
David: My work as an artist
967
01:05:12,130 --> 01:05:13,610
has always been
to do with transition.
968
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,970
The nature and study of change
969
01:05:17,010 --> 01:05:19,560
in our particular era
is most important
970
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,230
because never in our history
971
01:05:21,270 --> 01:05:24,270
has there been
such a rapid curve of change
972
01:05:24,310 --> 01:05:25,940
since the industrial revolution.
973
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,280
I'm a fairly
good social observer,
974
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,280
and I think
that I encapsulate areas
975
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,200
every, maybe every year or so,
976
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,160
I tried to stamp
that down somewhere,
977
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:41,160
what that year is all about.
978
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:42,580
Rather than
what it was all about,
979
01:05:42,620 --> 01:05:44,670
or what it's going to be.
980
01:05:44,710 --> 01:05:47,380
It's very much trying to capture
981
01:05:47,420 --> 01:05:49,840
the quintessence of that year.
982
01:06:04,020 --> 01:06:05,450
Interviewer:
I notice that the music now
983
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,190
is more... more daring,
984
01:06:07,230 --> 01:06:09,360
more adventurous,
more fractured.
985
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,090
Is there a danger that
by following your instinct,
986
01:06:11,110 --> 01:06:12,360
your aesthetic instincts,
987
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:13,550
if you like,
your artistic instinct,
988
01:06:13,570 --> 01:06:16,780
that you will jeopardize that?
989
01:06:16,820 --> 01:06:18,340
You know, the money
and the good life and all...
990
01:06:18,370 --> 01:06:19,660
No shit, Sherlock.
991
01:06:21,660 --> 01:06:24,580
Yes, I think I... yes, I think
I rather sort of hit that one
992
01:06:24,620 --> 01:06:25,920
in the head at the moment.
993
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:30,670
Um, and it's quite
a relief, really.
994
01:06:30,710 --> 01:06:36,260
I feel a lot more,
um, free than what I do.
995
01:06:36,300 --> 01:06:39,300
I just needed, it just needed
a positive decision
996
01:06:39,350 --> 01:06:41,140
to only do what I want to do,
997
01:06:41,180 --> 01:06:42,780
and not do things
for the sake of what...
998
01:06:44,770 --> 01:06:48,270
Either David bowie or whoever
I was playing last time,
999
01:06:48,310 --> 01:06:50,570
thin white Duke or something,
was expected to do.
1000
01:06:54,990 --> 01:06:56,490
David: I went naked in Berlin.
1001
01:06:56,530 --> 01:06:59,660
I really did try
and strip down my life
1002
01:06:59,700 --> 01:07:02,790
to what I believed
to be absolute basic essentials
1003
01:07:02,830 --> 01:07:04,580
so I could build up again
1004
01:07:04,620 --> 01:07:07,670
everything that I thought
that I'd lost, you know?
1005
01:07:07,710 --> 01:07:09,380
I guess I was...
What I was really doing
1006
01:07:09,420 --> 01:07:11,590
was doing that on an emotional
and spiritual level,
1007
01:07:11,630 --> 01:07:14,260
but you manifest it physically.
1008
01:07:14,300 --> 01:07:16,720
The surprising thing is,
is that we came up...
1009
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,930
We thought we were
just going to be into a process
1010
01:07:18,970 --> 01:07:20,720
of discovery and experiment
1011
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:22,820
and had some pretty wishy-washy
stuff come out of it,
1012
01:07:22,850 --> 01:07:26,810
but what did come out of it
was a pretty good statement
1013
01:07:26,850 --> 01:07:30,400
of some esoteric nature.
1014
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,650
It was a bit hard
to put one's finger
1015
01:07:32,690 --> 01:07:34,190
on exactly
what the information was,
1016
01:07:34,230 --> 01:07:36,690
but it was vital,
and it was interesting,
1017
01:07:36,740 --> 01:07:38,200
and I think
that's successful music.
1018
01:07:57,340 --> 01:08:02,010
I I, I will be king I
1019
01:08:05,890 --> 01:08:10,850
j'and you,
you will be my queen I
1020
01:08:14,980 --> 01:08:20,360
I though nothing
can keep us together I
1021
01:08:23,910 --> 01:08:29,410
I we can beat them,
forever and ever I
1022
01:08:32,210 --> 01:08:38,340
I we could be heroes
just for one day I
1023
01:08:42,140 --> 01:08:46,810
I you, you can be me I
1024
01:08:51,020 --> 01:08:55,770
iand I,
I'll drink all the time I
1025
01:08:59,530 --> 01:09:04,910
I 'cause we're lovers,
and that is the fact I
1026
01:09:08,490 --> 01:09:13,710
I yes we're lovers,
and that is that I
1027
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:22,800
I though nothing
will keep us together I
1028
01:09:26,220 --> 01:09:31,350
I we can beat them
forever and ever I
1029
01:09:34,230 --> 01:09:39,860
I and we can be heroes
just for one day I
1030
01:10:00,340 --> 01:10:05,050
I I, well I wish I could swim I
1031
01:10:08,470 --> 01:10:13,560
I like dolphins,
like dolphins can swim I
1032
01:10:16,810 --> 01:10:22,440
I though nothing,
can drive them away I
1033
01:10:24,820 --> 01:10:30,160
I we can beat them
forever and ever I
1034
01:10:32,790 --> 01:10:38,380
I oh, we can be heroes
just for one day I
1035
01:10:40,210 --> 01:10:41,420
I what you say? I
1036
01:10:58,730 --> 01:11:04,610
I I, I can remember I
1037
01:11:04,650 --> 01:11:05,650
band: I I remember I
1038
01:11:06,950 --> 01:11:12,030
David: J“ standing by the wall I
1039
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,080
band: I by the wall I
1040
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:20,750
David: I and the guns
shot above our heads I
1041
01:11:20,790 --> 01:11:23,130
band: J' over our heads I
1042
01:11:23,170 --> 01:11:28,840
David: I and we kissed
as though nothing could fall I
1043
01:11:28,890 --> 01:11:31,180
band: I nothing could fall I
1044
01:11:31,220 --> 01:11:36,730
David: I and nothing
and no one will help us I
1045
01:11:38,940 --> 01:11:40,860
I maybe we're lying I
1046
01:11:42,730 --> 01:11:44,440
I then you better not stay I
1047
01:11:47,190 --> 01:11:52,450
I we can be safer
just for one day I
1048
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,880
I oh-oh-oh-oh I
1049
01:12:07,090 --> 01:12:11,090
I oh-oh-oh-oh I
1050
01:12:11,140 --> 01:12:13,680
I we can be heroes I
1051
01:12:15,100 --> 01:12:19,060
I oh-oh-oh-oh I
1052
01:12:19,100 --> 01:12:21,100
I just for one day I
1053
01:12:23,060 --> 01:12:26,980
I oh-oh-oh-oh I
1054
01:12:27,030 --> 01:12:32,110
I just for one day. I
1055
01:12:41,710 --> 01:12:44,460
Reporter: Today, David bowie
is 33 years old.
1056
01:12:44,500 --> 01:12:47,170
He has recorded 17 rock albums,
1057
01:12:47,210 --> 01:12:49,170
produced a gallery full
of paintings,
1058
01:12:49,220 --> 01:12:51,300
acted in two feature films,
1059
01:12:51,340 --> 01:12:53,220
and is the only rock star
1060
01:12:53,260 --> 01:12:55,850
ever to act in a play
on Broadway.
1061
01:12:55,890 --> 01:12:58,680
Bowie never seems
to stand still.
1062
01:12:58,720 --> 01:12:59,910
When he no longer
feels challenged
1063
01:12:59,930 --> 01:13:01,730
by one art form,
1064
01:13:01,770 --> 01:13:04,770
he moves on to the next,
and the next, and the next.
1065
01:13:04,810 --> 01:13:06,980
It's as if David bowie
learned to run
1066
01:13:07,020 --> 01:13:08,230
before he learned to walk.
1067
01:13:14,990 --> 01:13:16,870
I I'm home I
1068
01:13:16,910 --> 01:13:18,700
I lost my job... I
1069
01:13:18,740 --> 01:13:20,350
David: You know, I've got
a grasshopper sort of mind,
1070
01:13:20,370 --> 01:13:22,160
and I can't resist
bringing things
1071
01:13:22,210 --> 01:13:24,750
to a conclusion like saying,
"well that's a piece in itself,
1072
01:13:24,790 --> 01:13:26,230
and now I move
on to something else."
1073
01:13:30,380 --> 01:13:31,860
Interviewer: You described
yourself as a generalist.
1074
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:33,300
- Is that...
- David: Yeah.
1075
01:13:33,340 --> 01:13:35,300
That's a freedom...
Giving umbrella.
1076
01:13:35,340 --> 01:13:37,260
It gives me a chance
1077
01:13:37,300 --> 01:13:39,390
to do anything
I want successfully
1078
01:13:39,430 --> 01:13:41,180
or unsuccessfully,
without being tied down.
1079
01:13:44,730 --> 01:13:47,190
I want... I'm a generalist,
1080
01:13:47,230 --> 01:13:51,110
is really sort of my cliche way
describing myself.
1081
01:13:51,150 --> 01:13:52,740
David: David bowie.
Rank and file.
1082
01:13:54,030 --> 01:13:55,530
33 years old.
1083
01:13:55,570 --> 01:13:56,780
Generalist.
1084
01:13:56,820 --> 01:13:58,160
Announcer:
Unlike most rock stars
1085
01:13:58,200 --> 01:13:59,790
who stick
to a successful formula
1086
01:13:59,830 --> 01:14:02,080
when they get it,
bowie, when he does,
1087
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:07,330
deliberately changes direction,
and puts on yet another face.
1088
01:14:07,380 --> 01:14:11,960
I believing me I
1089
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:17,600
David: I really sort of go
in just pure, barbaric impetus.
1090
01:14:19,010 --> 01:14:21,600
I do get fired up for something
1091
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:25,520
and it's not all cerebral
at all, by any means.
1092
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,150
A lot of it is pure instinct,
1093
01:14:27,190 --> 01:14:29,230
and knowing that
I've found something
1094
01:14:29,270 --> 01:14:31,440
that I haven't found before.
1095
01:14:31,480 --> 01:14:37,160
Sometimes
I think my head is so big
1096
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:40,740
because it is so full of themes.
1097
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:47,250
I I am a d.J.,
I am what I play I
1098
01:14:47,290 --> 01:14:48,880
I can't turn around no I
1099
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,460
I can't turn around,
no, oh, ooh I
1100
01:14:51,500 --> 01:14:55,930
I I am a d.J. I am what I say I
1101
01:14:55,970 --> 01:15:00,140
I can't turn around no,
can't turn around, no, oh no I
1102
01:15:00,180 --> 01:15:04,180
I I am a d.J.,
I am what I play I
1103
01:15:04,230 --> 01:15:06,980
I I've got believers I
1104
01:15:07,020 --> 01:15:11,020
I believing me, oh... I
1105
01:15:11,070 --> 01:15:12,380
interviewer:
What are you gonna do now?
1106
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:13,630
Are you going back home to bed?
1107
01:15:13,650 --> 01:15:15,360
David: Yes. Well, I don't know.
1108
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:17,910
A bit in the mood to
probably do a little writing
1109
01:15:17,950 --> 01:15:20,120
or painting or something.
1110
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,120
Interviewer: You're painting
in large canvases?
1111
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:23,490
Or small canvases? Or drawings?
1112
01:15:23,540 --> 01:15:25,620
David:
Yes. Quire large, acrylics.
1113
01:15:25,660 --> 01:15:27,710
I'm doing a lot
of sculptures as well.
1114
01:15:27,750 --> 01:15:32,040
A sort of polythene and
essential functional things.
1115
01:15:33,630 --> 01:15:35,840
Interviewer:
Why are you creative, David?
1116
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,130
David: I think
it has something to do
1117
01:15:38,180 --> 01:15:43,140
with wanting to find the place
where I can kind of set sail
1118
01:15:43,180 --> 01:15:46,230
and know that I won't really
fall off the edge of the world
1119
01:15:46,270 --> 01:15:47,770
when I get
to the end of the sea.
1120
01:15:47,810 --> 01:15:51,520
I find it
an intoxicating parallel
1121
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:53,690
to my perceived reality.
1122
01:16:14,130 --> 01:16:16,170
I'm not sure
that I'm manifesting ideas
1123
01:16:16,210 --> 01:16:17,880
when I do my work.
1124
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,930
It's just
this inexhaustible supply
1125
01:16:20,970 --> 01:16:24,930
of extracurricular thoughts
1126
01:16:24,970 --> 01:16:26,600
that I have
that don't actually apply
1127
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,180
to the survival of life,
1128
01:16:28,230 --> 01:16:30,020
and I'm not quite sure
what to do with them.
1129
01:16:30,060 --> 01:16:34,150
I he used to be my boss
and now he is a puppet dancer I
1130
01:16:34,190 --> 01:16:38,570
I I am the d.J.,
and I've got believers I
1131
01:16:40,610 --> 01:16:43,240
I I got believers I
1132
01:16:44,780 --> 01:16:47,540
I I got believers I
1133
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:54,040
I I got believers,
believing me... I
1134
01:17:00,970 --> 01:17:02,720
David: So rather than
be pinned down,
1135
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,970
my momentum
was to hit and run very fast.
1136
01:17:06,010 --> 01:17:07,390
Once I'd done something,
1137
01:17:07,430 --> 01:17:09,350
and said it,
drop it and move on.
1138
01:17:28,450 --> 01:17:31,290
David: I feel quite at home
in just about anywhere now,
1139
01:17:31,330 --> 01:17:33,000
on a temporary basis.
1140
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:36,000
Interviewer: Where do you spend
most of your time?
1141
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:37,560
David: Again, what is
"most of one's time"?
1142
01:17:37,590 --> 01:17:40,050
Over the last year,
it's been London,
1143
01:17:40,090 --> 01:17:43,800
New York, south pacific,
Australia, Africa...
1144
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:45,470
The nature of my life
1145
01:17:45,510 --> 01:17:48,560
is one of an old-fashioned
beatnik traveler,
1146
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:50,600
and more than anything else,
1147
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:54,310
I spend very little time
in musical circles.
1148
01:17:54,350 --> 01:17:57,820
I spend more time discovering
the social life
1149
01:17:57,860 --> 01:17:59,980
of rather obscure places.
1150
01:18:01,690 --> 01:18:07,370
I "I'm happy,
hope you're happy too I
1151
01:18:07,410 --> 01:18:10,540
I I've loved
all I've needed, love I
1152
01:18:10,580 --> 01:18:14,420
aj' sordid details following" I
1153
01:18:14,460 --> 01:18:17,630
I the shrieking of nothing
is killing, just I
1154
01:18:17,670 --> 01:18:22,050
I pictures of jap girls
in synthesis and I I
1155
01:18:22,090 --> 01:18:25,680
I ain't got no money
and I ain't got no hair I
1156
01:18:29,970 --> 01:18:34,180
I but I'm hoping to kick,
but the planet it's glowing I
1157
01:18:37,480 --> 01:18:41,230
I ashes to ash, funk to funky I
1158
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:45,320
I we know major Tom's a junkie I
1159
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,370
I strung out in heaven's high I
1160
01:18:48,410 --> 01:18:51,620
I hitting an all-time low... I
1161
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:10,220
Man: This is your promised land
is it not?
1162
01:19:10,260 --> 01:19:13,770
Roof, food, care, protection.
1163
01:19:15,060 --> 01:19:17,690
David: Oh, right, Mr. Treves.
1164
01:19:17,730 --> 01:19:20,310
Man: I'll bet you don't know
what to call this.
1165
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:22,480
David: No, sir. I don't.
1166
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,490
Man: You call it... home.
1167
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:29,620
Never had a home before.
1168
01:19:29,660 --> 01:19:30,990
Man: You have one now.
1169
01:19:31,030 --> 01:19:32,200
Say it, John.
1170
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:33,620
- Home.
- Home?
1171
01:19:33,660 --> 01:19:35,500
Man: No, no.
I mean really say it.
1172
01:19:35,540 --> 01:19:37,660
"I have a home.
1173
01:19:37,710 --> 01:19:39,710
This is my... "Come on.
1174
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:42,130
David: I have a home.
1175
01:19:43,340 --> 01:19:49,510
This is my home.
1176
01:19:49,550 --> 01:19:53,100
This is my home.
1177
01:19:54,100 --> 01:19:55,720
I have a home.
1178
01:19:56,930 --> 01:20:00,520
I have, for as long as I like.
1179
01:20:03,440 --> 01:20:06,110
Man: That is what home is.
1180
01:20:16,870 --> 01:20:18,580
David: I had always thought
1181
01:20:18,620 --> 01:20:21,040
that by this stage I would be
settled down somewhere
1182
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,290
with a house and grounds
and everything,
1183
01:20:23,340 --> 01:20:25,050
but I never got to doing that.
1184
01:20:32,970 --> 01:20:34,640
Never... I've never bought
a house,
1185
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:36,560
and I still have
no intention to buy...
1186
01:20:38,930 --> 01:20:40,850
Because with me,
1187
01:20:40,890 --> 01:20:44,270
the way I live is very much
also part of the...
1188
01:20:44,310 --> 01:20:45,730
What produces my work,
1189
01:20:45,770 --> 01:20:49,490
so I have to keep examining
my life
1190
01:20:49,530 --> 01:20:52,200
to make sure that I am
in constant change,
1191
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:57,490
and not getting too bloated
with philosophic opulence.
1192
01:20:57,540 --> 01:21:00,210
Keep sort of throwing bits
and pieces away.
1193
01:21:00,250 --> 01:21:03,290
And by... to change countries
is one way of doing that.
1194
01:21:10,260 --> 01:21:12,090
I'm not quite sure
where to go now.
1195
01:21:12,130 --> 01:21:17,260
Um, the east beckons me.
1196
01:21:17,310 --> 01:21:18,830
I'm a bit scared
of moving over there, you know?
1197
01:21:18,850 --> 01:21:20,350
Interviewer: Japan?
1198
01:21:20,390 --> 01:21:22,640
David: Yes, because I fall
in love so much
1199
01:21:22,690 --> 01:21:24,690
with the lifestyle that
I'll get very zen about it.
1200
01:21:38,830 --> 01:21:41,830
Japanese interviewer: Please
give us your special message
1201
01:21:41,870 --> 01:21:44,580
to the audience of our program,
"young oh! Oh!"
1202
01:21:45,750 --> 01:21:47,380
Look at the camera, please.
1203
01:21:47,420 --> 01:21:49,840
David: Uh, don't waste any day.
Don't waste a minute.
1204
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:51,550
Interviewer: Yes.
1205
01:21:51,590 --> 01:21:53,510
Mr. David bowie.
1206
01:21:53,550 --> 01:21:54,840
Thank you again.
1207
01:22:09,860 --> 01:22:11,900
David: I hope that none of us
are kind of static
1208
01:22:11,940 --> 01:22:13,490
throughout our lives.
1209
01:22:13,530 --> 01:22:16,570
I mean, I guess one has
a formed personality
1210
01:22:16,620 --> 01:22:18,080
from quite an early age,
1211
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:20,490
but it is tempered
and subject to change.
1212
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,290
I mean,
we all to a certain extent
1213
01:22:26,330 --> 01:22:29,500
create our lives
and create our culture daily,
1214
01:22:29,550 --> 01:22:31,210
as we live that 24 hours.
1215
01:22:31,260 --> 01:22:34,760
We'll choose a tie,
or a haircut, or a chair,
1216
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:36,070
not just
because it's functional,
1217
01:22:36,090 --> 01:22:37,720
but for most of us
1218
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:39,480
because it actually
says something about us.
1219
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:44,310
I still, you know,
am sort of getting somewhere
1220
01:22:44,350 --> 01:22:47,100
that I quite like,
but I'm still not.
1221
01:22:47,150 --> 01:22:48,610
We'll find out eventually,
won't we?
1222
01:22:50,860 --> 01:22:53,150
I might now be cut out
for all this, really,
1223
01:22:53,190 --> 01:22:55,200
at the end.
1224
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:56,710
Interviewer:
Why did you change so often?
1225
01:22:56,740 --> 01:22:57,880
I mean,
what was the need for it?
1226
01:22:57,910 --> 01:22:58,990
Was it just a gimmick?
1227
01:22:59,030 --> 01:23:00,490
David: Being a capricorn.
1228
01:23:00,530 --> 01:23:03,000
I didn't want to expose myself
to the public,
1229
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,160
so I developed a series
of characters.
1230
01:23:05,210 --> 01:23:07,620
So, behind that all the time
was a real David bowie?
1231
01:23:08,420 --> 01:23:09,630
At times, yes.
1232
01:23:09,670 --> 01:23:11,090
I lost control
a couple of times.
1233
01:23:12,710 --> 01:23:14,420
So you're not...
This is really you.
1234
01:23:14,460 --> 01:23:16,700
This is not you just still
sort of playing the role of...
1235
01:23:18,390 --> 01:23:19,720
One wonders.
1236
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,100
I think
that it's not at all mystifying
1237
01:23:22,140 --> 01:23:23,740
why you change your appearance
as often as you do,
1238
01:23:23,770 --> 01:23:25,310
to my view by the way,
1239
01:23:25,350 --> 01:23:29,440
because I think you've
used yourself as a canvas.
1240
01:23:29,480 --> 01:23:31,270
- Yes, very much so.
- Is that right?
1241
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:33,030
David: Yes, very much so.
1242
01:23:33,070 --> 01:23:37,990
Um, I never wanted to appear
as myself onstage ever,
1243
01:23:38,030 --> 01:23:39,570
at any time, until recently.
1244
01:23:39,620 --> 01:23:43,490
Were you hiding yourself
from us by doing that?
1245
01:23:43,540 --> 01:23:46,330
David: Partly, but I was
enjoying it very much.
1246
01:23:46,370 --> 01:23:48,330
- And, you paint now?
- Yes.
1247
01:23:48,370 --> 01:23:49,960
But your paintings,
you're not willing
1248
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:51,250
to let us see yet?
1249
01:23:51,290 --> 01:23:52,670
David: Uh, no.
1250
01:23:52,710 --> 01:23:53,810
I've been offered
two or three showings,
1251
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:55,380
but I've turned...
1252
01:23:55,420 --> 01:23:57,510
I've accepted two of them,
and then I broke my word
1253
01:23:57,550 --> 01:23:59,680
and said I wouldn't show them.
1254
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:01,510
I haven't yet bucked up
the courage.
1255
01:24:01,550 --> 01:24:04,350
Interviewer: Why not?
What do you fear?
1256
01:24:04,390 --> 01:24:05,870
David:
Well, I know I'm a good writer.
1257
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:09,600
I'm not sure
about putting my paintings.
1258
01:24:09,650 --> 01:24:11,190
They're very personal
to me, as well.
1259
01:24:11,230 --> 01:24:13,480
Um, they're all portraits,
1260
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:15,530
and they're portraits
of people in isolation.
1261
01:24:15,570 --> 01:24:19,240
Most of the paintings
are Germans or Turks
1262
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,110
who live in Berlin,
1263
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:23,410
and they're either
from east Berlin,
1264
01:24:23,450 --> 01:24:25,040
and who are now living
in west Berlin,
1265
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:26,330
and knowing their families
1266
01:24:26,370 --> 01:24:28,290
are on the other side
of the wall.
1267
01:24:28,330 --> 01:24:31,580
And so, I tried to capture
a lot of that isolation
1268
01:24:31,630 --> 01:24:34,040
and I put a lot of myself
into the paintings as well.
1269
01:24:34,090 --> 01:24:35,250
They're very much part of me.
1270
01:24:53,900 --> 01:24:55,820
Dick: Well, I think
the question is what...
1271
01:24:55,860 --> 01:24:58,990
You know, what you want to be
for yourself and your life.
1272
01:24:59,030 --> 01:25:00,880
David: I don't know whether
that's important anymore.
1273
01:25:00,900 --> 01:25:03,160
I mean, what I want
to do is just work well.
1274
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,580
When I'm working well,
I like my writing.
1275
01:25:05,620 --> 01:25:07,120
At the moment, especially.
1276
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:08,910
More than at any other time,
I think.
1277
01:25:08,950 --> 01:25:11,330
I mean, I was getting so bored
with what I was writing.
1278
01:25:11,370 --> 01:25:13,710
I just, I felt inadequate,
I thought my writing
1279
01:25:13,750 --> 01:25:15,170
was becoming monotonous.
1280
01:25:15,210 --> 01:25:17,090
I didn't take
the kinds of chances
1281
01:25:17,130 --> 01:25:18,300
I was taking at one time.
1282
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:21,930
I thought if I'm going
to end up like,
1283
01:25:23,930 --> 01:25:27,510
um, a lot of other rock
and roll celebrities,
1284
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:29,100
inasmuch
that I'm going to be trying
1285
01:25:29,140 --> 01:25:31,060
to retain the safe position,
you know?
1286
01:25:31,100 --> 01:25:33,270
And that's not what
I started out wanting to do.
1287
01:25:33,310 --> 01:25:35,370
Dick: But is it important to you
to have a mass audience?
1288
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:36,500
Do you want a lot of people to...
1289
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:37,570
David: No. No.
1290
01:25:37,610 --> 01:25:39,110
I want to work well.
1291
01:25:39,150 --> 01:25:41,700
I want to...
I just have to work well.
1292
01:25:44,450 --> 01:25:46,620
I think it's
an heroic act to take,
1293
01:25:46,660 --> 01:25:51,750
um... to be able
to obtain enthusiasm
1294
01:25:51,790 --> 01:25:55,130
and joy from the actual process
of living from day to day.
1295
01:25:55,170 --> 01:25:56,630
Interviewer:
1296
01:25:56,670 --> 01:25:57,790
David: Yes, very much.
1297
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:01,630
I try. And it is, it is...
1298
01:26:01,670 --> 01:26:03,840
I think it takes practice to,
1299
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:07,390
and concentration,
and exercise to enjoy it.
1300
01:26:07,430 --> 01:26:10,640
This is very easy to fall
into the trap of looking
1301
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:13,980
for one's dreams and always
thinking of a future moment
1302
01:26:14,020 --> 01:26:15,650
when everything will be better.
1303
01:26:15,690 --> 01:26:17,810
And if the process
is not enjoyed,
1304
01:26:17,860 --> 01:26:19,520
the dreams will never come
to anything.
1305
01:26:19,570 --> 01:26:21,900
And by enjoying the process,
1306
01:26:21,940 --> 01:26:23,530
you are creating
a dream come true.
1307
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:37,250
I think I have an abundantly
healthy curiosity about life.
1308
01:26:37,290 --> 01:26:40,050
About life around me,
specifically.
1309
01:26:40,090 --> 01:26:43,670
And how, how we put
ourselves together culturally,
1310
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:46,430
and I think it's served me well
as an artist,
1311
01:26:46,470 --> 01:26:50,930
in as much as I'm really
inquiring continually
1312
01:26:50,970 --> 01:26:53,560
into how things are made
and why we make them,
1313
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:58,150
and the significance
or meanings behind things.
1314
01:27:02,070 --> 01:27:06,200
I'd be really scared of feeling
that I'd got somewhere,
1315
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:09,530
because for me,
art is about searching,
1316
01:27:09,570 --> 01:27:11,030
and if you come to a place
1317
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:13,040
where you think
you've made a discovery,
1318
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:14,910
I think that really is...
1319
01:27:17,330 --> 01:27:19,420
God, that would be
really demoralizing.
1320
01:27:19,460 --> 01:27:21,380
I think the search is the thing.
1321
01:27:23,590 --> 01:27:25,420
I and you want to believe I
1322
01:27:27,260 --> 01:27:29,220
I and we want to believe I
1323
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:32,430
I and we want to live I
1324
01:27:34,020 --> 01:27:35,890
I oh, we want to live I
1325
01:27:37,850 --> 01:27:39,400
I we want to live I
1326
01:27:41,690 --> 01:27:43,020
I we want to live I
1327
01:27:45,070 --> 01:27:46,610
I we want to live I
1328
01:27:48,530 --> 01:27:50,030
I we want to live I
1329
01:27:52,030 --> 01:27:53,790
I we want to live I
1330
01:27:55,620 --> 01:27:57,410
I I want to live I
1331
01:27:59,330 --> 01:28:01,210
I I want to live I
1332
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:04,840
I I want to live I
1333
01:28:06,590 --> 01:28:08,760
I I want to live I
1334
01:28:10,550 --> 01:28:12,600
I I want to live I
1335
01:28:14,060 --> 01:28:16,220
I I want to live I
1336
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:19,810
I live I
1337
01:28:22,230 --> 01:28:24,110
I live I
1338
01:28:25,940 --> 01:28:28,110
I live I
1339
01:28:52,180 --> 01:28:55,680
I ain't that just like me. I
1340
01:30:29,190 --> 01:30:32,240
David: There's a gradual shift
when you reach mid 30s.
1341
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:33,860
Uh, I think that
there's a period
1342
01:30:33,900 --> 01:30:37,030
where you have
to decide not to try
1343
01:30:37,070 --> 01:30:41,700
and grasp frantically
for the feelings of desperation
1344
01:30:41,750 --> 01:30:44,870
and anger that you have
when you're in your mid 20s.
1345
01:30:44,910 --> 01:30:49,500
And if you can relax into
the idea that being mid 30s
1346
01:30:49,540 --> 01:30:51,170
is quite a nice place to be
1347
01:30:51,210 --> 01:30:52,920
with an amount of experience
behind you,
1348
01:30:54,510 --> 01:30:56,380
I think the perspective changes.
1349
01:31:03,430 --> 01:31:04,450
Interviewer:
You said once that there's
1350
01:31:04,480 --> 01:31:06,270
so many shells around you
1351
01:31:06,310 --> 01:31:07,870
that you don't know what
the p... looks like anymore.
1352
01:31:07,900 --> 01:31:09,330
David: Yeah,
well I've gone through that.
1353
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:11,780
I'm pretty aware
of what I'm like.
1354
01:31:11,820 --> 01:31:13,610
- Interviewer: Really?
- David: Yeah, yeah.
1355
01:31:13,650 --> 01:31:16,780
I feel pretty-pretty happy
about my own relationship
1356
01:31:16,820 --> 01:31:17,820
to the world, and...
1357
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:25,750
We've got to be positive
about our days on this planet.
1358
01:31:25,790 --> 01:31:28,290
Interviewer: I never realized
you were such an optimist.
1359
01:31:28,330 --> 01:31:29,810
David: Well,
I never was particularly.
1360
01:31:31,090 --> 01:31:32,550
Interviewer:
You're more romantic
1361
01:31:32,590 --> 01:31:35,220
than people give you credit for.
1362
01:31:35,260 --> 01:31:37,180
David: I think I'm probably
a lot more emotional
1363
01:31:37,220 --> 01:31:39,890
than people would think
that I was.
1364
01:31:39,930 --> 01:31:42,640
I am emotionally very
responsive to life and people.
1365
01:31:46,810 --> 01:31:49,480
I just wanted to come in touch
with a common factor
1366
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:51,360
because I feel a need
at the moment to...
1367
01:31:52,570 --> 01:31:54,980
Be part of a society again,
1368
01:31:55,030 --> 01:31:56,570
and having traveled
an awful lot,
1369
01:31:56,610 --> 01:31:59,410
feel more and more
part of everything.
1370
01:31:59,450 --> 01:32:01,160
And I wish
to express that feeling.
1371
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:04,200
I don't want to seem
as though I'm detached and cold
1372
01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:05,700
because I'm not.
1373
01:32:09,330 --> 01:32:11,250
Interviewer: You seem very sure
of yourself,
1374
01:32:11,290 --> 01:32:13,340
and very,
sort of content, and...
1375
01:32:13,380 --> 01:32:14,840
You seem at ease with yourself.
1376
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:16,320
David: I'm at ease
with myself, yeah.
1377
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:24,030
Interviewer:
You've always been so good
1378
01:32:24,060 --> 01:32:26,310
at being convincing, you know?
1379
01:32:26,350 --> 01:32:28,810
- Whatever it was at the time.
- David: Yeah. I see.
1380
01:32:28,850 --> 01:32:30,770
Interviewer: I mean,
is it possible that this
1381
01:32:30,810 --> 01:32:34,520
- is just another role?
- David: I see what's going on.
1382
01:32:34,570 --> 01:32:36,780
I believe that there is a thread
1383
01:32:36,820 --> 01:32:39,070
of meaning running
through my life at the moment,
1384
01:32:39,110 --> 01:32:40,790
that I have no wish
at the moment to break,
1385
01:32:40,820 --> 01:32:42,240
and I feel it's leading
1386
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:44,370
somewhere fulfilling
and positive.
1387
01:32:44,410 --> 01:32:47,250
And if I feel that way,
then I make every effort
1388
01:32:47,290 --> 01:32:49,710
to make that part
of my music now.
1389
01:32:54,420 --> 01:32:56,630
It's the ultimate swing
of the pendulum.
1390
01:32:56,670 --> 01:32:58,880
When things reach a point
to one extreme,
1391
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:00,470
there will be
a natural gravitation
1392
01:33:00,510 --> 01:33:02,340
back to a point,
1393
01:33:02,390 --> 01:33:04,300
which is the antithesis
of that one.
1394
01:33:04,350 --> 01:33:06,350
So, you've got
a musical vocabulary,
1395
01:33:06,390 --> 01:33:10,480
which is high-tech, and icy.
1396
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:13,440
There's gonna be sooner
or later a swing back to,
1397
01:33:13,480 --> 01:33:16,320
well, what is the other side
of that coin?
1398
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:18,040
Man: Ladies and gentlemen,
Mr. David bowie.
1399
01:33:23,660 --> 01:33:26,450
David: I'd like to, um,
start off the 80s
1400
01:33:26,490 --> 01:33:29,370
in a positive,
optimistic fashion.
1401
01:33:29,410 --> 01:33:32,250
I'll be undertaking,
a world tour,
1402
01:33:32,290 --> 01:33:34,170
sometime around the middle
of the year,
1403
01:33:34,210 --> 01:33:38,170
and it'll take me through
to the Autumn at least.
1404
01:33:38,210 --> 01:33:40,260
And he's back. David bowie,
1405
01:33:40,300 --> 01:33:42,510
launching his
first new album in three years,
1406
01:33:42,550 --> 01:33:45,430
preparing for his first
British tour in five years,
1407
01:33:45,470 --> 01:33:47,470
and telling newsnight's
Robin denselow
1408
01:33:47,510 --> 01:33:50,480
about his new
and more emotional music style.
1409
01:33:51,980 --> 01:33:54,650
David: I'm trying to write
in a more obvious
1410
01:33:54,690 --> 01:33:56,270
and positive manner.
1411
01:33:56,310 --> 01:33:59,530
I've not gone quite
into a corner
1412
01:33:59,570 --> 01:34:02,030
with experimentation of sound.
1413
01:34:02,070 --> 01:34:04,860
I'm not quite so concerned
with cut-up exercise,
1414
01:34:04,910 --> 01:34:07,490
or using juxtaposition
of lyrics, or whatever.
1415
01:34:07,530 --> 01:34:09,370
I'd like to do
something positive.
1416
01:34:09,410 --> 01:34:12,040
Something that helps people,
to use a cliche.
1417
01:34:13,580 --> 01:34:14,810
David: This is probably
the simplest music
1418
01:34:14,830 --> 01:34:16,210
I've ever done.
1419
01:34:16,250 --> 01:34:17,650
Interviewer:
What do you mean simple?
1420
01:34:17,670 --> 01:34:20,420
David: It makes very warm,
1421
01:34:20,460 --> 01:34:22,380
understandable
musical statements.
1422
01:34:22,420 --> 01:34:24,260
It has a warm response.
1423
01:34:24,300 --> 01:34:27,970
I hope that it's the most
emotionally uplifting music
1424
01:34:28,010 --> 01:34:30,060
I've made in a long time.
1425
01:34:30,100 --> 01:34:31,680
It's very positive.
1426
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:33,310
Interviewer:
Is that how you're feeling?
1427
01:34:33,350 --> 01:34:35,230
David: Relatively. Oh yeah.
1428
01:34:35,270 --> 01:34:36,600
I'm very positive.
1429
01:34:37,860 --> 01:34:39,070
I never gonna fall for I
1430
01:34:39,110 --> 01:34:40,320
j“ modern love I
1431
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:41,610
I walks beside me I
1432
01:34:41,650 --> 01:34:42,900
j“ modern love I
1433
01:34:42,940 --> 01:34:43,900
I walks on by I
1434
01:34:43,950 --> 01:34:45,360
j“ modern love I
1435
01:34:45,410 --> 01:34:48,870
I gets me to the church
on time I
1436
01:34:48,910 --> 01:34:50,990
reporter: British fans
are overwhelming
1437
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:53,370
the post office with more
than four times
1438
01:34:53,410 --> 01:34:56,670
as many ticket requests
as seats available.
1439
01:34:56,710 --> 01:34:59,170
This is the biggest demand ever.
1440
01:34:59,210 --> 01:35:01,170
Boy: We waited hours
and hours to get tickets.
1441
01:35:01,210 --> 01:35:02,300
Interviewer: Big bowie fan?
1442
01:35:02,340 --> 01:35:03,420
Man: Yeah, that's me.
1443
01:35:03,460 --> 01:35:04,590
Woman: He's totally evolved.
1444
01:35:04,630 --> 01:35:06,050
He knows what his fans want,
1445
01:35:06,090 --> 01:35:07,550
and that's what
he's delivering now.
1446
01:35:07,590 --> 01:35:09,930
I love David bowie!
1447
01:35:09,970 --> 01:35:11,570
Reporter: Fans have
been waiting a day and a half
1448
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:12,850
in the stadium parking lot.
1449
01:35:12,890 --> 01:35:14,430
They open the gates at 5pm.
1450
01:35:14,480 --> 01:35:16,980
We want bowie!
1451
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:19,940
J“ modern love I
1452
01:35:19,980 --> 01:35:20,980
j“ modern love I
1453
01:35:22,610 --> 01:35:24,780
j“ modern love I
1454
01:35:24,820 --> 01:35:27,610
emcee: Ladies and gentlemen...
1455
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:32,540
David bowie and his band!
1456
01:35:40,500 --> 01:35:41,730
Man: What is it
about David bowie
1457
01:35:41,750 --> 01:35:43,550
that excites you so much?
1458
01:35:43,590 --> 01:35:44,920
- His style.
- Yeah?
1459
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:46,220
I like his makeup.
1460
01:35:46,260 --> 01:35:47,550
Man: You like his makeup?
1461
01:35:47,590 --> 01:35:48,840
Woman: I like his music.
1462
01:35:50,550 --> 01:35:53,060
Band: I let's dance I
1463
01:35:53,100 --> 01:35:58,190
David: I put on your red shoes
and dance the blues I
1464
01:35:58,230 --> 01:36:00,360
band: I let's dance I
1465
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:04,230
David: I to the song
they're playin' on the radio I
1466
01:36:05,900 --> 01:36:08,110
band: I let's sway I
1467
01:36:08,150 --> 01:36:10,700
David: J“ while color
lights up your face I
1468
01:36:13,580 --> 01:36:15,910
band: I let's sway I
1469
01:36:15,950 --> 01:36:19,790
David: J“ sway through the crowd
to an empty space I
1470
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:27,510
I if you say run
I'll run with you I
1471
01:36:30,430 --> 01:36:33,220
I and if you say hide I
1472
01:36:33,260 --> 01:36:35,010
I we'll hide I
1473
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:40,810
I because my love for you I
1474
01:36:40,850 --> 01:36:44,860
I would break my heart in two I
1475
01:36:44,900 --> 01:36:49,070
I if you should fall
into my arms I
1476
01:36:49,110 --> 01:36:54,370
I trembling like a flower I
1477
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:23,310
Band: I let's dance I
1478
01:37:23,350 --> 01:37:27,070
David: I put on your red shoes
and dance the blues I
1479
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:30,570
band: I let's dance I
1480
01:37:30,610 --> 01:37:34,280
David: J“ under the moonlight I
1481
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:36,410
I this serious moonlight I
1482
01:37:36,450 --> 01:37:37,450
band: I let's sway I
1483
01:37:43,500 --> 01:37:44,500
I let's sway I
1484
01:37:51,090 --> 01:37:52,130
I let's dance I
1485
01:37:58,640 --> 01:37:59,770
I let's dance I
1486
01:38:06,270 --> 01:38:07,820
I let's dance I
1487
01:38:13,950 --> 01:38:15,070
I let's dance I
1488
01:38:17,700 --> 01:38:19,790
David: J“ let's dance,
let's dance I
1489
01:38:19,830 --> 01:38:21,950
I let's dance, let's dance. I
1490
01:38:33,260 --> 01:38:34,630
Audience: Bowie!
1491
01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:36,090
Bowie!
1492
01:38:36,140 --> 01:38:37,760
Bowie!
1493
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:39,930
Bowie! Bowie!
1494
01:38:44,270 --> 01:38:45,950
Interviewer: Do you think
they phenomenal success
1495
01:38:45,980 --> 01:38:48,360
of the tour marks
the rebirth of bowie fever?
1496
01:38:49,610 --> 01:38:51,190
David: No, I don't think that.
1497
01:38:51,230 --> 01:38:53,320
But I think it's just
a bowie acceptance now,
1498
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:56,320
which is quite gratifying
after all these years.
1499
01:39:11,170 --> 01:39:12,860
Didn't think I'd ever
hear myself saying this,
1500
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:14,510
but it's like the audience
1501
01:39:14,550 --> 01:39:16,380
and myself are just,
like, together.
1502
01:39:16,430 --> 01:39:17,760
It's trying to come back
1503
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:19,930
to being a person again
in terms...
1504
01:39:19,970 --> 01:39:21,720
In the eyes of the audience,
1505
01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:23,390
and it certainly
has no pretensions
1506
01:39:23,430 --> 01:39:25,480
to be a serious,
1507
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:30,060
heavy statement-filled show,
but I mean,
1508
01:39:30,110 --> 01:39:31,610
it's exactly
what I want it to be.
1509
01:39:35,740 --> 01:39:37,300
Interviewer:
What do you most enjoy doing?
1510
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:39,030
David: In life, at the moment?
1511
01:39:41,330 --> 01:39:43,370
Waking up and feeling
as though I've got a future.
1512
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:48,250
I keep remembering
that there is a tomorrow,
1513
01:39:48,290 --> 01:39:50,250
when that never really occurred
to me before,
1514
01:39:50,290 --> 01:39:51,670
that there was a tomorrow.
1515
01:39:51,710 --> 01:39:54,420
Tomorrow was really,
"this is it.
1516
01:39:54,460 --> 01:39:56,670
"This is now, this is important.
1517
01:39:56,720 --> 01:39:58,880
"Everything else is crazy,
and static,
1518
01:39:58,930 --> 01:40:01,970
"and it means nothing,
or everything's impermanent,
1519
01:40:02,010 --> 01:40:04,600
therefore I will just live
for the second."
1520
01:40:06,350 --> 01:40:09,350
And one has to start taking
very positive stands on things.
1521
01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:17,030
When you feel comfortable
with yourself,
1522
01:40:17,070 --> 01:40:18,700
you can no longer write.
1523
01:40:18,740 --> 01:40:22,160
That seems to be
the writer's great problem.
1524
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:25,700
As I get more comfortable,
I obviously have the feeling
1525
01:40:25,750 --> 01:40:29,250
that it's not so much that
is my writing as good,
1526
01:40:29,290 --> 01:40:32,960
or as potent as it used to be,
but do I need to write anymore?
1527
01:41:01,700 --> 01:41:05,410
Man: His new album seems
to be, to me, a step sideways.
1528
01:41:05,450 --> 01:41:06,510
Interviewer:
Why do you describe it
1529
01:41:06,540 --> 01:41:07,870
that... in that way?
1530
01:41:07,910 --> 01:41:09,370
Man: Because I think
he's not doing
1531
01:41:09,410 --> 01:41:11,080
anything particularly new,
1532
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:14,210
and I suspect that
for the first time ever,
1533
01:41:14,250 --> 01:41:18,670
the fans are up there with him
and he's not ahead of the game.
1534
01:41:18,710 --> 01:41:22,050
He seems to me to have become
something rather old fashioned,
1535
01:41:22,090 --> 01:41:24,220
which is to say a superstar.
1536
01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:41,320
If you've gone mainstream,
there's only one way to do it,
1537
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:43,240
and that's sell out
three days a year.
1538
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:44,370
Man 2: Really do it.
1539
01:41:44,410 --> 01:41:45,950
Man: Yeah, yeah.
1540
01:41:45,990 --> 01:41:47,550
He's done it in one big deal,
hasn't he?
1541
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:52,580
Interviewer:
This is the last stop
1542
01:41:52,620 --> 01:41:55,080
on what's been a pretty
extensive tour for you.
1543
01:41:55,130 --> 01:41:57,380
David: Uh, yeah, I'm not
actually finishing in Auckland.
1544
01:41:57,420 --> 01:41:58,840
I'm going over now
1545
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:01,130
to Singapore,
Hong Kong, and Bangkok.
1546
01:42:02,340 --> 01:42:04,550
I I've nothing much to offer I
1547
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:10,560
I there's nothing much to take I
1548
01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:24,950
I I'm an absolute beginner I
1549
01:42:27,740 --> 01:42:32,660
I but I'm absolutely sane I
1550
01:42:36,500 --> 01:42:39,130
I'm not quite so stricken
with the idea
1551
01:42:39,170 --> 01:42:41,210
of making a point.
1552
01:42:41,260 --> 01:42:43,380
I'm not quite sure
that any point
1553
01:42:43,420 --> 01:42:46,010
that I have to make
isn't being made quite as well
1554
01:42:46,050 --> 01:42:47,510
by other people.
1555
01:42:47,550 --> 01:42:51,020
Um, and that maybe the point,
1556
01:42:51,060 --> 01:42:52,390
my most important point,
1557
01:42:52,430 --> 01:42:54,230
is that I can entertain
very well,
1558
01:42:54,270 --> 01:42:57,810
and I think I'm no longer
finding it uncomfortable
1559
01:42:57,860 --> 01:43:01,780
to reach that conclusion.
1560
01:43:03,190 --> 01:43:05,950
That I now find
I'm very comfortable
1561
01:43:05,990 --> 01:43:08,740
being an actor, an entertainer,
1562
01:43:08,780 --> 01:43:12,370
without too much
all-encompassing stuff.
1563
01:43:12,410 --> 01:43:13,950
J“ time takes a cigarette I
1564
01:43:16,170 --> 01:43:17,540
I puts it in your mouth I
1565
01:43:19,630 --> 01:43:21,840
I you pull on your finger I
1566
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:25,090
I then another finger
then your cigarette I
1567
01:43:26,510 --> 01:43:29,390
I the wall-to-wall is calling I
1568
01:43:29,430 --> 01:43:33,350
I it lingers,
but still you forget I
1569
01:43:33,390 --> 01:43:36,440
I ohhh I
1570
01:43:36,480 --> 01:43:38,730
I you're a rock and roll
suicide I
1571
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:43,190
I you're too young to lose it I
1572
01:43:45,070 --> 01:43:47,450
I but you're too old
to lose it I
1573
01:43:49,620 --> 01:43:54,080
I and the clocks waits
so patiently on your song I
1574
01:43:55,370 --> 01:43:58,580
I well, you walk past a cafe I
1575
01:43:58,620 --> 01:44:01,630
I but you can't eat
when you've lived too long... I
1576
01:44:01,670 --> 01:44:03,670
man: Pepsi continues
to innovate,
1577
01:44:03,710 --> 01:44:05,460
by capturing what's new,
1578
01:44:05,510 --> 01:44:08,380
what's contemporary,
and what's hot.
1579
01:44:08,430 --> 01:44:10,430
The glass spider tour
will be all of that.
1580
01:44:10,470 --> 01:44:14,310
I now the chev brakes
are snarling I
1581
01:44:14,350 --> 01:44:16,060
I as you stumble
across the road I
1582
01:44:17,770 --> 01:44:20,600
interviewer: You always have
that segment of people
1583
01:44:20,650 --> 01:44:22,110
who are with you from the start
1584
01:44:22,150 --> 01:44:24,570
and if you know bowie,
you know he's sold out.
1585
01:44:24,610 --> 01:44:28,150
David: I don't begrudge any
artist for getting an audience.
1586
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:31,320
I'm sorry, I never found
that poverty meant purity.
1587
01:44:31,370 --> 01:44:33,200
Interviewer:
For a guy who doesn't like
1588
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:35,580
to play it safe, though,
as the audience gets larger,
1589
01:44:35,620 --> 01:44:37,500
it must be harder
to take those chances.
1590
01:44:38,910 --> 01:44:41,710
I oh no, love,
you're not alone I
1591
01:44:43,420 --> 01:44:47,420
I you're watching yourself
but you're too unfair I
1592
01:44:47,460 --> 01:44:50,510
I you got your head
all tangled up I
1593
01:44:50,550 --> 01:44:54,140
I but if I could only
make you care I
1594
01:44:54,180 --> 01:44:55,680
here I was,
making lots of money,
1595
01:44:55,720 --> 01:44:57,560
performing
to these huge audiences,
1596
01:44:57,600 --> 01:44:59,180
and I thought that's it,
you know?
1597
01:44:59,230 --> 01:45:01,850
I've come to the vacuum
of my life.
1598
01:45:01,900 --> 01:45:05,570
I no matter when
or where you've seen I
1599
01:45:05,610 --> 01:45:09,070
I all the knives
seem to lacerate your brain I
1600
01:45:09,110 --> 01:45:13,950
I I've had my share now
I'll help you with the pain I
1601
01:45:13,990 --> 01:45:15,370
I you're not alone I
1602
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:23,630
I just turn on with me
and you're not alone I
1603
01:45:26,420 --> 01:45:30,420
I just turn on with me
and you're not alone I
1604
01:45:34,350 --> 01:45:37,810
I gimme your hands
cause you're wonderful I
1605
01:45:38,930 --> 01:45:40,680
j'isaidj'
1606
01:45:40,730 --> 01:45:44,560
I gimme your hands
cause you're wonderful I
1607
01:45:47,610 --> 01:45:51,650
I gimme your hands
cause you're wonderful I
1608
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:57,280
I cause you...
Gimmie your hands I
1609
01:45:57,330 --> 01:45:59,370
I cause you're wonderful I
1610
01:46:01,830 --> 01:46:07,170
I gimme your hands
'cause you're wonderful I
1611
01:46:07,210 --> 01:46:08,460
I gimme your hands I
1612
01:46:11,590 --> 01:46:13,430
I 'cause you're wonderful I
1613
01:46:18,930 --> 01:46:20,810
I 'cause you're wonderful I
1614
01:46:26,020 --> 01:46:27,860
I 'cause you're wonderful I
1615
01:46:33,030 --> 01:46:34,450
I 'cause you're wonderful I
1616
01:46:34,490 --> 01:46:35,490
I'm a young man.
1617
01:46:36,950 --> 01:46:38,990
Do you understand?
1618
01:46:39,030 --> 01:46:40,740
I'm a young man.
1619
01:46:40,790 --> 01:46:42,330
I 'cause you're wonderful. I
1620
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:02,310
Thank you very much.
Bye bye, we love you.
1621
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:34,170
David: Even though
it was enormously successful,
1622
01:47:35,670 --> 01:47:38,050
there was no growth
going on at all.
1623
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:45,040
They were very hard years
to get through
1624
01:47:45,060 --> 01:47:46,690
to find any sense of purpose.
1625
01:47:48,940 --> 01:47:50,810
I wasn't allowing myself
1626
01:47:50,860 --> 01:47:53,690
the service of being
who I really am as an artist.
1627
01:47:55,190 --> 01:47:57,110
I'd given myself
dreadful parameters
1628
01:47:57,150 --> 01:48:01,700
in confining myself to merely
what I presumed people wanted.
1629
01:48:05,830 --> 01:48:07,460
I never wanted to do this.
1630
01:48:07,500 --> 01:48:09,920
I never wanted to be out there
pleasing people.
1631
01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:11,790
I wanted to be really stubborn
1632
01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:13,880
and have people like
what I like.
1633
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:16,130
Not give them what they like.
1634
01:48:21,970 --> 01:48:25,430
It's very, very easy
to become work-obsessed
1635
01:48:25,470 --> 01:48:27,640
for the reason of not having
to look at oneself.
1636
01:48:31,860 --> 01:48:33,480
I think over the last few years,
1637
01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:35,440
I'm understanding
1638
01:48:35,480 --> 01:48:38,360
a very important thing
in my life,
1639
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:41,780
which is that I really
have to come back
1640
01:48:41,820 --> 01:48:44,240
to what my life is about.
1641
01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:48,040
That my life is not about
the work that I do.
1642
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:49,710
My work is not me.
1643
01:48:49,750 --> 01:48:54,920
I am distinctly one entity
that needs looking at.
1644
01:48:57,840 --> 01:48:59,300
When I first looked,
1645
01:48:59,340 --> 01:49:02,090
I just didn't understand
that person,
1646
01:49:02,140 --> 01:49:04,470
because I'd never given myself
the time,
1647
01:49:04,510 --> 01:49:06,140
nor the incentive
1648
01:49:06,180 --> 01:49:09,770
to want to really
have a look at myself, deeply.
1649
01:49:12,860 --> 01:49:16,070
I think the first intrusion
into one's own inner conflicts
1650
01:49:16,110 --> 01:49:18,150
is not the most pleasant
of experiences.
1651
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:23,620
But working through them
1652
01:49:23,660 --> 01:49:25,450
can really be
one of the greatest adventures
1653
01:49:25,490 --> 01:49:27,160
of one's life,
1654
01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:31,500
and it takes a certain amount
of bravado,
1655
01:49:31,540 --> 01:49:35,090
and need, and a realization
1656
01:49:35,130 --> 01:49:38,090
that you're missing out
on your own life.
1657
01:49:39,510 --> 01:49:41,510
You are probably
creating hazards
1658
01:49:41,550 --> 01:49:47,390
and disturbing experiences
for others around you.
1659
01:49:47,430 --> 01:49:49,730
And the house must be put right.
1660
01:50:09,620 --> 01:50:11,260
Interviewer: Do you have
any room in your life
1661
01:50:11,290 --> 01:50:13,080
for any kind of real
relationship like that?
1662
01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:14,800
David: More room than
I've ever had before.
1663
01:50:18,090 --> 01:50:20,340
Interviewer: You've said
that being in love,
1664
01:50:20,380 --> 01:50:21,610
you thought was like a disease.
1665
01:50:21,630 --> 01:50:23,380
David: Yeah.
1666
01:50:23,430 --> 01:50:24,780
Interviewer: Horrible,
and it bred jealousy, and...
1667
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:26,680
David: I think I've...
I think I've...
1668
01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:30,890
I think I've grown to feel
a distaste for that statement.
1669
01:50:55,960 --> 01:50:58,590
Then I met iman,
1670
01:50:58,630 --> 01:51:01,960
and it was smack,
right from the first night.
1671
01:51:02,010 --> 01:51:03,300
That was it. It was over.
1672
01:51:06,010 --> 01:51:07,010
It was incredible.
1673
01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:14,640
My life suddenly became
Rose-tinged.
1674
01:51:16,270 --> 01:51:18,900
I in this age
of grand illusion I
1675
01:51:18,940 --> 01:51:21,230
I you walked into my life I
1676
01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:23,070
I out of my dreams I
1677
01:51:26,070 --> 01:51:28,490
I I don't need another change I
1678
01:51:28,530 --> 01:51:30,200
I still you forced your way I
1679
01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:33,080
I into my scheme of things I
1680
01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:39,420
I you say we're growing I
1681
01:51:40,750 --> 01:51:44,170
I growing heart and soul... I
1682
01:51:44,210 --> 01:51:46,130
I really started thinking about
1683
01:51:46,170 --> 01:51:50,100
where I was gonna go with it,
and what I could do for her,
1684
01:51:50,140 --> 01:51:52,680
and how I could be
1685
01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:54,310
some kind
of valuable contribution
1686
01:51:54,350 --> 01:51:56,390
to a relationship.
1687
01:51:56,440 --> 01:52:02,270
I sweet name
you're born once again for me I
1688
01:52:06,110 --> 01:52:11,830
I sweet name you're born
once again for me... I
1689
01:52:13,660 --> 01:52:16,370
it became a process
over the first year or so,
1690
01:52:16,410 --> 01:52:19,080
trying to balance my life
in terms of well,
1691
01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:21,290
how many of these
precious moments
1692
01:52:21,340 --> 01:52:24,210
am I willing to give away
at my age, 45?
1693
01:52:24,250 --> 01:52:27,170
Do I want to keep
on inundating myself
1694
01:52:27,220 --> 01:52:29,720
with one work project
after another, and sort of,
1695
01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:32,640
leave virtually no room
for a real, solid,
1696
01:52:32,680 --> 01:52:35,930
wonderful relationship
to start blooming?
1697
01:52:35,970 --> 01:52:39,900
I lord, I knee! And offer you I
1698
01:52:39,940 --> 01:52:42,690
I my word on a wing I
1699
01:52:44,940 --> 01:52:46,990
interviewer: Tour plans.
Any tour plans?
1700
01:52:47,030 --> 01:52:50,570
Unfortunately not.
No, not this time.
1701
01:52:50,610 --> 01:52:54,030
As you know, I've only been
married seven months,
1702
01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:57,660
and I really want to spend
more time within the marriage.
1703
01:52:57,700 --> 01:53:00,370
I think the worst thing to do
is run away for a year.
1704
01:53:01,670 --> 01:53:02,710
I really do.
1705
01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:10,880
I lord I
1706
01:53:12,140 --> 01:53:13,550
I lord I
1707
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:16,260
I my prayer flies
like a word on a wing I
1708
01:53:18,180 --> 01:53:20,980
I my prayer flies
like a word on a wing I
1709
01:53:22,810 --> 01:53:25,980
I does my prayer fit in
with your scheme of things? I
1710
01:53:35,910 --> 01:53:39,000
David: There's a certain
buoyancy that you can develop
1711
01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:40,830
as you get older
1712
01:53:40,870 --> 01:53:44,080
if you are capable of absorbing
that it's a finite life,
1713
01:53:44,130 --> 01:53:45,670
and a finite existence.
1714
01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:48,460
And it's a kind of a knowledge
1715
01:53:48,510 --> 01:53:51,470
that you cannot
possibly entertain
1716
01:53:51,510 --> 01:53:53,220
when you're young.
1717
01:53:53,260 --> 01:53:56,930
You cannot entertain
the real magnificence
1718
01:53:56,970 --> 01:53:59,430
and inevitability
of the short span of years
1719
01:53:59,470 --> 01:54:00,930
that we spend on the earth.
1720
01:54:00,980 --> 01:54:02,770
And I think
if you are really honest
1721
01:54:02,810 --> 01:54:04,190
with that reality,
1722
01:54:04,230 --> 01:54:06,690
you can have
a kind of a freedom,
1723
01:54:06,730 --> 01:54:09,030
artistically, spiritually,
and emotionally
1724
01:54:09,070 --> 01:54:10,820
that you don't have
when you're young.
1725
01:54:10,860 --> 01:54:15,370
I ooh, ready to shape
the scheme of things I
1726
01:54:15,410 --> 01:54:17,450
the idea of holding
on to anything
1727
01:54:17,490 --> 01:54:21,830
that's manifested
seems farcical.
1728
01:54:21,870 --> 01:54:23,620
There is nothing to hold onto.
1729
01:54:23,670 --> 01:54:25,460
Youth, physical things, or...
1730
01:54:29,130 --> 01:54:30,300
Definitely possessions.
1731
01:54:35,180 --> 01:54:37,050
The 20th century concern
1732
01:54:37,100 --> 01:54:40,390
is how we put our new god
back together again.
1733
01:54:40,430 --> 01:54:43,560
I think that we're coming
into an era of chaos,
1734
01:54:43,600 --> 01:54:45,730
and chaos has meaning
in our lives,
1735
01:54:45,770 --> 01:54:48,060
and I think
that we have to re-adapt
1736
01:54:48,110 --> 01:54:51,320
our interpretation of religion
and spirituality
1737
01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:52,570
to suit our new millennium.
1738
01:54:53,990 --> 01:54:55,910
Chaos and fragmentation
is something
1739
01:54:55,950 --> 01:54:58,700
that I've always been
very comfortable with.
1740
01:54:58,740 --> 01:55:01,370
That obviously
is my through-line.
1741
01:55:01,410 --> 01:55:03,080
Because I've always felt
1742
01:55:03,120 --> 01:55:05,750
that there's no real central
one truth in life.
1743
01:55:05,790 --> 01:55:07,960
That the way we live
is trying to make sense
1744
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:12,170
of the endless vortex
of fragments.
1745
01:55:12,210 --> 01:55:14,720
That essentially,
we try and pull
1746
01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:17,140
these weedy little truths
1747
01:55:17,180 --> 01:55:19,760
and absolutes
1748
01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:23,810
out of this kind
of mindless chaos,
1749
01:55:23,850 --> 01:55:25,850
which is the real universe.
1750
01:55:25,890 --> 01:55:28,520
There's something about
the 90s that I really like.
1751
01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:30,480
There's something in the air
that I recognize.
1752
01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:32,190
I think it's all the frag...
1753
01:55:32,230 --> 01:55:34,690
All the fragments
flying around in the chaos.
1754
01:55:34,740 --> 01:55:37,360
It feels really... I kind of...
I know this stuff.
1755
01:56:04,520 --> 01:56:05,560
I spaceboy I
1756
01:56:07,100 --> 01:56:08,350
I you're sleepy now I
1757
01:56:09,560 --> 01:56:10,900
I your silhouette I
1758
01:56:12,570 --> 01:56:14,030
I is so stationary I
1759
01:56:15,900 --> 01:56:18,450
I you're released
but your custody calls I
1760
01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:21,530
I and I want to be free I
1761
01:56:25,500 --> 01:56:26,790
I don't you want to be free I
1762
01:56:28,620 --> 01:56:30,290
I do you like girls or boys I
1763
01:56:32,250 --> 01:56:34,750
I yeah, it's confusing
these days I
1764
01:56:36,130 --> 01:56:39,630
I but moondust will cover you I
1765
01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:41,470
I cover you I
1766
01:56:41,510 --> 01:56:43,640
I this chaos is killing me I
1767
01:56:48,600 --> 01:56:49,690
I so bye bye love I
1768
01:56:54,980 --> 01:56:56,190
I bye bye love I
1769
01:57:01,620 --> 01:57:02,660
I bye bye love I
1770
01:57:07,790 --> 01:57:08,910
I bye bye love I
1771
01:57:26,600 --> 01:57:28,560
I this chaos is killing me I
1772
01:57:33,650 --> 01:57:34,860
I sweet sweet dove I
1773
01:57:39,940 --> 01:57:41,320
I bye bye spaceboy I
1774
01:57:46,370 --> 01:57:47,580
I bye bye love I
1775
01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:56,340
I moondust will cover you I
1776
01:58:00,340 --> 01:58:02,510
I moondust will cover you I
1777
01:58:06,300 --> 01:58:09,220
I moondust will cover you I
1778
01:58:12,890 --> 01:58:15,440
I moondust will cover you I
1779
01:58:19,400 --> 01:58:21,820
I moondust will cover you I
1780
01:58:27,580 --> 01:58:30,040
I all is well I
1781
01:58:30,080 --> 01:58:32,580
I 20th century dies I
1782
01:58:32,620 --> 01:58:35,040
I toll the bell I
1783
01:58:35,080 --> 01:58:37,460
I pay the private eye I
1784
01:58:37,500 --> 01:58:39,920
I all is well I
1785
01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:42,220
I 20th century dies I
1786
01:59:03,700 --> 01:59:06,910
David: I think, I think
it has something to do
1787
01:59:06,950 --> 01:59:09,950
with being able to reach
the end of any one day
1788
01:59:09,990 --> 01:59:12,830
and feel that you took from it
1789
01:59:12,870 --> 01:59:16,960
and gave back to it
as much as possible.
1790
01:59:18,420 --> 01:59:20,630
I hate to waste days.
1791
01:59:29,350 --> 01:59:32,310
I've just been feeling
a lot more comfortable
1792
01:59:32,350 --> 01:59:34,430
with life, and myself,
and my writing
1793
01:59:34,480 --> 01:59:36,100
and everything
as the years go by,
1794
01:59:36,140 --> 01:59:38,350
so it's... I just happen to be
in a great place.
1795
01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:40,060
I'm really lucky in that way.
1796
01:59:40,110 --> 01:59:41,520
'Cause I look
at some of my mates,
1797
01:59:41,570 --> 01:59:43,490
and some contemporaries,
1798
01:59:43,530 --> 01:59:46,650
and I know some of them feel,
I don't know, tired, or bitter,
1799
01:59:46,700 --> 01:59:48,570
or you know, a number of things
1800
01:59:48,620 --> 01:59:52,040
that traditionally
are supposed to go
1801
01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:53,370
with getting older, you know?
1802
01:59:53,410 --> 01:59:54,750
And I've just been
very fortunate
1803
01:59:54,790 --> 01:59:56,460
that it just
hasn't happened to me.
1804
01:59:56,500 --> 01:59:59,250
I just feel really...
I'm pretty keen on everything.
1805
02:00:00,790 --> 02:00:02,630
I've just landed on my feet.
1806
02:00:02,670 --> 02:00:06,130
I've done and do everything
I've always wanted to do,
1807
02:00:06,170 --> 02:00:07,800
you know?
1808
02:00:07,840 --> 02:00:08,840
That's been...
1809
02:00:10,090 --> 02:00:12,060
Interviewer:
That's a great thing.
1810
02:00:12,100 --> 02:00:13,450
David: Oh, it's extraordinary.
It really is extraordinary.
1811
02:00:13,470 --> 02:00:14,560
I've an incredible life.
1812
02:00:15,730 --> 02:00:17,560
It's been amazing.
1813
02:00:17,600 --> 02:00:19,270
I would love to do it again.
1814
02:00:22,230 --> 02:00:26,110
I was determined,
ever since I was 16,
1815
02:00:26,150 --> 02:00:28,070
that I would have
the greatest adventure
1816
02:00:28,110 --> 02:00:30,870
that any one person
could ever have.
1817
02:00:30,910 --> 02:00:33,450
And I set my sails
in the general direction
1818
02:00:33,490 --> 02:00:35,790
of uncharted waters.
1819
02:00:35,830 --> 02:00:38,370
I put myself
through everything...
1820
02:00:38,410 --> 02:00:41,330
Absolutely everything,
that came along.
1821
02:00:41,380 --> 02:00:45,710
It was very important for me
to expand my horizons
1822
02:00:45,760 --> 02:00:47,380
and seeing just how...
1823
02:00:47,420 --> 02:00:49,840
Just how near to the line
I could get.
1824
02:01:30,880 --> 02:01:33,140
I've been so eclectic
all my life.
1825
02:01:33,180 --> 02:01:36,140
I've been admiring
of so many different people
1826
02:01:36,180 --> 02:01:38,180
and so many different things
that they've done,
1827
02:01:38,220 --> 02:01:41,980
I feel that I owe so many
for the way that I think
1828
02:01:42,020 --> 02:01:43,020
and do things.
1829
02:01:44,400 --> 02:01:48,030
I guess anybody
who's had the integrity
1830
02:01:48,070 --> 02:01:50,450
to kind of always work
outside of the system,
1831
02:01:50,490 --> 02:01:52,610
has always appealed to me.
1832
02:01:52,660 --> 02:01:55,870
Whenever I'm teetering
on sort of what I know
1833
02:01:55,910 --> 02:01:58,660
is what I do best,
and what I really feel for,
1834
02:01:58,700 --> 02:02:00,870
and there's an area
that I think that,
1835
02:02:00,910 --> 02:02:03,170
well, an audience
I know would like this,
1836
02:02:04,170 --> 02:02:05,960
I just remember back
1837
02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:09,960
to how much I hate the center
of the social strata,
1838
02:02:10,010 --> 02:02:12,180
how I hate being drawn
into the middle,
1839
02:02:12,220 --> 02:02:14,510
to the middle of the road
of anything,
1840
02:02:14,550 --> 02:02:17,310
to that which is most popular.
1841
02:02:17,350 --> 02:02:19,350
And if... the other thing
I would say is that
1842
02:02:19,390 --> 02:02:22,140
if you feel safe in the area
that you're working in,
1843
02:02:22,190 --> 02:02:23,900
you're not working
in the right area.
1844
02:02:23,940 --> 02:02:26,150
Always go a little further
into the water
1845
02:02:26,190 --> 02:02:28,110
than you feel
you're capable of being in.
1846
02:02:28,150 --> 02:02:30,070
Go a little bit
out of your depth,
1847
02:02:30,110 --> 02:02:31,570
and when you don't feel
1848
02:02:31,610 --> 02:02:33,370
that your feet
are quite touching the bottom,
1849
02:02:33,400 --> 02:02:34,670
you're just about
in the right place
1850
02:02:34,700 --> 02:02:36,120
to do something exciting.
1851
02:02:45,040 --> 02:02:46,460
Let me tell you one thing.
1852
02:02:47,880 --> 02:02:51,210
All people,
no matter who they are,
1853
02:02:51,260 --> 02:02:53,800
they all wish
they'd appreciated life more.
1854
02:02:56,300 --> 02:02:59,260
It's what you do in life
that's important,
1855
02:02:59,310 --> 02:03:02,560
not how much time you have,
or what you wish you'd done.
1856
02:03:45,310 --> 02:03:50,110
I something happened
on the day he died I
1857
02:03:50,150 --> 02:03:54,360
I spirit Rose a meter
then stepped aside I
1858
02:03:54,400 --> 02:03:59,070
I somebody else took his place
and bravely cried I
1859
02:03:59,120 --> 02:04:01,950
I I'm a blackstar I
1860
02:04:01,990 --> 02:04:05,910
I 000000... I
1861
02:04:26,480 --> 02:04:28,560
There is no beginning, no end.
1862
02:04:29,980 --> 02:04:31,610
And all at once,
1863
02:04:31,650 --> 02:04:34,650
the outward appearance
of meaning is transcended,
1864
02:04:34,690 --> 02:04:38,200
and you find yourself
struggling to comprehend a deep
1865
02:04:38,240 --> 02:04:40,030
and formidable mystery.
1866
02:04:41,910 --> 02:04:42,950
I'm dying.
1867
02:04:44,200 --> 02:04:46,540
You are dying.
1868
02:04:46,580 --> 02:04:49,920
Second by second,
all is transient.
1869
02:04:51,170 --> 02:04:53,920
Does it matter? Do I bother?
1870
02:04:55,250 --> 02:04:57,090
Yes I do.
1871
02:04:57,130 --> 02:04:59,130
Life is fantastic.
1872
02:04:59,180 --> 02:05:01,260
It never ends. It only changes.
1873
02:05:02,430 --> 02:05:05,640
Flesh to stone to flesh.
1874
02:05:05,680 --> 02:05:07,390
And round and round.
1875
02:05:09,100 --> 02:05:10,980
Best keep walking.
1876
02:05:42,890 --> 02:05:46,890
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1877
02:05:46,930 --> 02:05:49,640
I and we're gonna have a party I
1878
02:05:49,680 --> 02:05:51,640
I uh-huh huh I
1879
02:05:51,690 --> 02:05:55,480
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1880
02:05:55,520 --> 02:05:58,280
I and we're gonna have a party I
1881
02:05:58,320 --> 02:05:59,860
I uh-huh huh I
1882
02:05:59,900 --> 02:06:03,660
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1883
02:06:03,700 --> 02:06:06,620
I and we're gonna have a party I
1884
02:06:06,660 --> 02:06:08,240
I uh-huh huh I
1885
02:06:08,290 --> 02:06:11,960
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1886
02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:14,790
I and we're gonna have a party I
1887
02:06:14,830 --> 02:06:16,460
I uh-huh huh I
1888
02:06:16,500 --> 02:06:20,510
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1889
02:06:20,550 --> 02:06:24,680
I whoa ho uh-ha I
1890
02:06:24,720 --> 02:06:28,850
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1891
02:06:28,890 --> 02:06:31,310
I whoa ho uh-ha I
1892
02:06:32,940 --> 02:06:37,020
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1893
02:06:37,060 --> 02:06:41,110
I whoa ho uh-ha I
1894
02:06:41,150 --> 02:06:45,030
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1895
02:06:45,070 --> 02:06:47,700
I whoa ho uh-ha I
1896
02:06:47,740 --> 02:06:49,410
I na-na-na I
1897
02:06:49,450 --> 02:06:53,040
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1898
02:06:57,250 --> 02:07:00,920
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1899
02:07:05,220 --> 02:07:09,010
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1900
02:07:09,060 --> 02:07:11,560
I and we're gonna have a party I
1901
02:07:13,180 --> 02:07:16,900
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1902
02:07:16,940 --> 02:07:19,610
I and we're gonna have a party I
1903
02:07:21,190 --> 02:07:24,490
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1904
02:07:24,530 --> 02:07:27,280
I and we're gonna have a party I
1905
02:07:28,990 --> 02:07:32,330
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1906
02:07:32,370 --> 02:07:34,830
I and we're gonna have a party I
1907
02:07:36,790 --> 02:07:40,250
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1908
02:07:40,290 --> 02:07:42,670
I and we're gonna have a party I
1909
02:07:44,550 --> 02:07:47,840
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1910
02:07:47,890 --> 02:07:50,300
I and we're gonna have a party I
1911
02:07:52,220 --> 02:07:55,940
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1912
02:07:55,980 --> 02:07:57,940
I and we're gonna have a party I
1913
02:07:59,940 --> 02:08:03,360
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1914
02:08:03,400 --> 02:08:05,610
I and we're gonna have a party I
1915
02:08:07,450 --> 02:08:10,620
I the sun machine
is coming down I
1916
02:08:10,660 --> 02:08:13,200
I and we're gonna
have a party... I
1917
02:08:29,470 --> 02:08:31,260
I hey, now now I
1918
02:08:34,470 --> 02:08:36,310
I goodbye love I
1919
02:08:39,560 --> 02:08:44,440
I didn't know what time it was,
the lights were low-ow-ow I
1920
02:08:44,480 --> 02:08:49,240
I I leaned back
on my radio-o-o I
1921
02:08:49,280 --> 02:08:52,950
I some cat was iayin' down
some rock 'n' roll I
1922
02:08:52,990 --> 02:08:54,160
I "lotta soul" he said I
1923
02:08:56,700 --> 02:09:01,170
I then the loud sound
did seem to fade-Ade-Ade I
1924
02:09:01,210 --> 02:09:05,960
I came back like a slow voice
on a wave of phase-ase-ase I
1925
02:09:06,010 --> 02:09:10,590
I that weren't no dj,
that was hazy cosmic jive I
1926
02:09:14,470 --> 02:09:19,730
I there's a starman
waiting in the sky I
1927
02:09:19,770 --> 02:09:22,100
I he'd like
to come and meet us I
1928
02:09:22,150 --> 02:09:24,400
I but he thinks
he'd blow our minds I
1929
02:09:24,440 --> 02:09:29,450
I there's a starman
waiting in the sky I
1930
02:09:29,490 --> 02:09:31,490
I he's told us not to blow it I
1931
02:09:31,530 --> 02:09:33,870
I 'cause he knows
it's all worthwhile I
1932
02:09:33,910 --> 02:09:37,660
I he told me
let the children lose it I
1933
02:09:37,700 --> 02:09:39,960
I let the children use it I
1934
02:09:40,000 --> 02:09:42,210
I let all the children boogie I
1935
02:09:58,930 --> 02:10:03,600
I I had to phone someone
so I picked on you-ou-ou I
1936
02:10:03,650 --> 02:10:08,280
I hey, that's far out,
so you heard him too-oo-oo I
1937
02:10:08,320 --> 02:10:13,320
I switch on the TV, we may
pick him up on channel two I
1938
02:10:15,490 --> 02:10:20,290
I look out your window,
I can see his light-ight-ight I
1939
02:10:20,330 --> 02:10:24,790
I if we can sparkle
he may land tonight-ight-ight I
1940
02:10:24,830 --> 02:10:26,460
I don't tell your poppa I
1941
02:10:26,500 --> 02:10:29,510
I or he'll get us
locked up in fright I
1942
02:10:33,550 --> 02:10:38,680
I there's a starman
waiting in the sky I
1943
02:10:38,720 --> 02:10:40,930
I he'd like
to come and meet us I
1944
02:10:40,980 --> 02:10:43,230
I but he thinks
he'd blow our minds I
1945
02:10:43,270 --> 02:10:48,270
I there's a starman
waiting in the sky I
1946
02:10:48,320 --> 02:10:50,530
I he's told us not to blow it I
1947
02:10:50,570 --> 02:10:53,700
I 'cause he knows it's all
worthwhile, he told me I
1948
02:10:53,740 --> 02:10:58,660
I let the children lose it
let the children use it I
1949
02:10:58,700 --> 02:11:01,250
I let all the children boogie I
1950
02:11:01,290 --> 02:11:05,210
I starman waiting in the sky I
1951
02:11:05,250 --> 02:11:07,500
I he'd like to come
and meet us I
1952
02:11:07,540 --> 02:11:09,670
I but he thinks
he'd blow our minds I
1953
02:11:09,710 --> 02:11:14,630
I there's a starman
waiting in the sky I
1954
02:11:14,680 --> 02:11:16,840
I he's told us not to blow it I
1955
02:11:16,890 --> 02:11:18,930
I 'cause he knows
it's all worthwhile I
1956
02:11:18,970 --> 02:11:22,680
I he told me
let the children lose it I
1957
02:11:22,730 --> 02:11:25,060
I let the children use it I
1958
02:11:25,100 --> 02:11:27,230
I let all the children boogie I
1959
02:11:36,450 --> 02:11:39,700
I la, la, la, ia-ia I
1960
02:11:39,740 --> 02:11:44,290
I la, la, la la, la, la, ia-ia I
1961
02:11:44,330 --> 02:11:48,960
I la, la, la la, la, la, ia-ia I
1962
02:11:49,000 --> 02:11:53,550
I la, la, la la, la, la, ia-ia I
1963
02:11:53,590 --> 02:11:58,180
I la, la, la la, la, la, ia-ia I
1964
02:11:58,220 --> 02:12:02,720
I la, la, la la, la, la, ia-ia I
1965
02:12:02,770 --> 02:12:07,350
I la, la, la la, la, la, ia-ia I
1966
02:12:07,390 --> 02:12:11,860
I la, la, la la, la, la, ia-ia I
1967
02:12:11,900 --> 02:12:16,400
I la, la, la la, la, la, ia-ia I
1968
02:12:16,450 --> 02:12:21,200
I la, la, la la, la, la, ia-ia I
1969
02:12:21,240 --> 02:12:25,700
I la, la, la la, la, la, ia-ia I
1970
02:12:25,750 --> 02:12:29,250
I la, la, la
la, la, la, ia-ia. I
1971
02:12:37,720 --> 02:12:38,800
I oh yeah I
1972
02:12:42,680 --> 02:12:43,680
I mmmm I
1973
02:12:49,810 --> 02:12:53,570
I still don't know
what I was waitin' for I
1974
02:12:53,610 --> 02:12:56,530
I and my time was running wild I
1975
02:12:56,570 --> 02:12:58,900
I a million
dead-end streets and I
1976
02:12:58,950 --> 02:13:02,030
I every time I thought
I'd got it made I
1977
02:13:02,070 --> 02:13:06,660
I it seemed the taste
was not so sweet I
1978
02:13:06,700 --> 02:13:11,130
I so I turned myself
to face me I
1979
02:13:11,170 --> 02:13:15,340
I but I've never caught
a glimpse I
1980
02:13:15,380 --> 02:13:19,260
I how the others
must see the faker I
1981
02:13:19,300 --> 02:13:22,640
I I'm much too fast
to take that test I
1982
02:13:22,680 --> 02:13:24,510
I ch-ch-ch-ch-changes I
1983
02:13:24,560 --> 02:13:27,060
I turn and face the strange I
1984
02:13:27,100 --> 02:13:29,640
I ch-ch-changes I
1985
02:13:29,690 --> 02:13:32,270
I don't want to be
a richer man I
1986
02:13:32,310 --> 02:13:34,110
I ch-ch-ch-ch-changes I
1987
02:13:34,150 --> 02:13:36,440
I turn and face the strange I
1988
02:13:36,480 --> 02:13:39,150
I ch-ch-changes I
1989
02:13:39,190 --> 02:13:41,450
I there's gonna have to be
a different man I
1990
02:13:41,490 --> 02:13:44,450
j“ time may change me I
1991
02:13:44,490 --> 02:13:47,120
I but I can't trace time I
1992
02:13:47,160 --> 02:13:50,790
I I said that
time may change me I
1993
02:13:50,830 --> 02:13:54,000
I but I can't trace time. I
1994
02:14:12,390 --> 02:14:13,810
David: Well you know what?
1995
02:14:13,850 --> 02:14:15,940
This has been
an incredible pleasure,
1996
02:14:15,980 --> 02:14:19,230
and, uh,
you were really interesting.
1997
02:14:19,280 --> 02:14:20,960
I didn't know those things
you were telling me
1998
02:14:20,990 --> 02:14:23,240
about yourselves.
It's nice to have met you.
1999
02:14:23,280 --> 02:14:25,410
I'm glad we did finally
meet at last.
2000
02:14:25,450 --> 02:14:28,290
And all I can say is,
I goodbye I
2001
02:14:28,330 --> 02:14:31,410
I goodbye we'll meet again I
2002
02:14:31,460 --> 02:14:33,000
I some time I
2003
02:14:33,040 --> 02:14:36,670
I somewhere fa-ta-ta
ta-ta-ta-ta I
2004
02:14:36,710 --> 02:14:37,710
I ta-da. I
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