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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,171 --> 00:00:03,632 [air whooshing] 2 00:00:03,715 --> 00:00:05,425 [♪ "Runaway" by Bon Jovi playing] 3 00:00:05,509 --> 00:00:07,427 ♪ Girls talk about their social lives ♪ 4 00:00:09,346 --> 00:00:11,848 ♪ They're made of lipstick, plastic, and paint ♪ 5 00:00:11,932 --> 00:00:14,684 ♪ A touch of sable in their eyes ♪ 6 00:00:15,143 --> 00:00:16,311 [audience cheering] 7 00:00:16,394 --> 00:00:17,938 ♪ All your life all you've asked ♪ 8 00:00:18,021 --> 00:00:20,524 ♪ When's your daddy gonna talk to you ♪ 9 00:00:20,607 --> 00:00:21,816 [audience cheering] 10 00:00:21,900 --> 00:00:26,988 ♪ Ooh, she's a little runaway ♪ 11 00:00:27,072 --> 00:00:28,740 [host 1] [on radio] Welcome and will now announce... 12 00:00:29,699 --> 00:00:31,409 [host 2] [on radio] He's one of those fortunate guys 13 00:00:31,493 --> 00:00:32,911 who is so full of himself 14 00:00:33,036 --> 00:00:34,412 and he's got loads of self-confidence 15 00:00:34,496 --> 00:00:36,081 that nothing will hold him back. 16 00:00:36,331 --> 00:00:38,917 He's got his debut out now, it's selling extremely well. 17 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,086 -A very big warm welcome to you, Jon. -[Jon Bon Jovi] Thank you. 18 00:00:41,169 --> 00:00:42,838 [radio host] Nice to see you. How old are you, Jon? 19 00:00:42,921 --> 00:00:44,214 -[Jon] I'm 22. -[radio host] Right age. 20 00:00:44,297 --> 00:00:45,298 [both laughing] 21 00:00:46,842 --> 00:00:48,844 [radio host] Okay, so you grew up in New Jersey. 22 00:00:48,927 --> 00:00:50,720 Had you always been into rock music? 23 00:00:50,804 --> 00:00:52,597 {\an8}[Jon] Oh, yeah, sure. I think since, uh, 24 00:00:52,681 --> 00:00:54,182 {\an8}you know, I've always said I was born with sunglasses 25 00:00:54,266 --> 00:00:55,433 {\an8}and a guitar. 26 00:00:55,517 --> 00:00:56,852 {\an8}You know, I mean, I've been playing 27 00:00:56,935 --> 00:00:58,311 since I can remember. 28 00:00:58,395 --> 00:01:00,063 [radio host] What were your parents' reactions 29 00:01:00,146 --> 00:01:01,147 when you decided you were gonna go 30 00:01:01,231 --> 00:01:02,649 into rock and roll music? 31 00:01:02,732 --> 00:01:03,984 [Jon] They probably thought we were crazy, you know, 32 00:01:04,067 --> 00:01:05,569 wondering like, "Why don't you get a real job, 33 00:01:05,652 --> 00:01:06,695 make some money." 34 00:01:06,778 --> 00:01:08,405 [Jon laughing] 35 00:01:09,906 --> 00:01:12,784 [♪ soft music playing] 36 00:01:16,538 --> 00:01:18,331 This is our high-tech setup. 37 00:01:19,499 --> 00:01:21,751 I've spent the last week or 10 days 38 00:01:22,168 --> 00:01:25,255 going through archiving a lot of cassettes. 39 00:01:26,006 --> 00:01:27,340 Here's what we found. 40 00:01:27,716 --> 00:01:29,509 All this was in boxes. 41 00:01:30,802 --> 00:01:33,805 I wanted to do it because of the 40th, 42 00:01:34,222 --> 00:01:36,016 but if I was 100% healthy, 43 00:01:36,099 --> 00:01:38,727 I probably wouldn't be paying as close attention. 44 00:01:39,477 --> 00:01:43,064 Here's Blaze of Glory, the writing session. 45 00:01:45,150 --> 00:01:47,194 So here's Runaway before there was a band. 46 00:01:48,069 --> 00:01:50,447 This has a song that I was writing 47 00:01:50,530 --> 00:01:52,574 for the Tom Cruise movie, 48 00:01:52,657 --> 00:01:55,577 Days of Thunder, and I wrote on it, "not good." 49 00:01:55,660 --> 00:01:56,912 [laughs] 50 00:01:57,996 --> 00:02:03,251 {\an8}It's validated for me the, uh, body of work is legit, 51 00:02:03,335 --> 00:02:05,879 {\an8}but more importantly, it got better. 52 00:02:09,424 --> 00:02:10,717 This is cool 53 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,928 because it's the first time we ever played there. 54 00:02:15,347 --> 00:02:18,767 [cassette player clicking] 55 00:02:18,850 --> 00:02:20,602 That's us walking to the stage. 56 00:02:24,272 --> 00:02:26,024 [♪ "Lay Your Hands On Me" by Bon Jovi plays on video] 57 00:02:26,107 --> 00:02:27,442 Kid's a little excited. 58 00:02:33,198 --> 00:02:34,991 The first time we played Giants Stadium, 59 00:02:35,534 --> 00:02:37,202 you know, it was as big as it got. 60 00:02:37,702 --> 00:02:40,330 [audience cheering] 61 00:02:40,455 --> 00:02:43,291 [♪ "Lay Your Hands On Me" continues playing] 62 00:02:46,586 --> 00:02:48,713 {\an8}♪ They say that to be able to free your body ♪ 63 00:02:48,922 --> 00:02:51,258 {\an8}[audience cheering] 64 00:02:51,341 --> 00:02:53,343 {\an8}♪ You gotta free your mind ♪ 65 00:02:54,511 --> 00:02:56,012 ♪ So come on ♪ 66 00:03:01,226 --> 00:03:02,477 ♪ Check this out ♪ 67 00:03:03,228 --> 00:03:07,399 ♪♪ 68 00:03:08,233 --> 00:03:10,944 [audience cheering] 69 00:03:15,365 --> 00:03:17,325 [news reporter 1] One of the hottest tickets around tonight 70 00:03:17,409 --> 00:03:19,870 was to see the world's hottest rock group. 71 00:03:19,953 --> 00:03:21,705 Bon Jovi records have been selling by the millions, 72 00:03:21,955 --> 00:03:23,498 and his concerts have been selling out. 73 00:03:23,582 --> 00:03:26,918 ♪ If you're ready, I'm willing and able ♪ 74 00:03:27,002 --> 00:03:29,087 [news reporter 2] Bon Jovi has been riding high 75 00:03:29,171 --> 00:03:31,339 since their album Slippery When Wet 76 00:03:31,423 --> 00:03:34,509 sold 14 million copies around the world. 77 00:03:34,676 --> 00:03:36,011 ♪ For the taking ♪ 78 00:03:37,095 --> 00:03:40,348 ♪ The rules we've made are meant for breaking ♪ 79 00:03:41,516 --> 00:03:44,644 ♪ What you get ain't always what you see ♪ 80 00:03:45,979 --> 00:03:47,981 ♪ But satisfaction is guaranteed ♪ 81 00:03:48,106 --> 00:03:49,482 [interviewer 1] You're knocking down records 82 00:03:49,608 --> 00:03:51,318 that've been there for years. 83 00:03:51,401 --> 00:03:52,819 Does that frighten you? 84 00:03:52,986 --> 00:03:55,947 [Jon] Nobody really knew that it could get this big. 85 00:03:56,031 --> 00:03:58,491 ♪ If you want me to lay my hands on you ♪ 86 00:03:58,575 --> 00:04:00,577 [interviewer 2] What does it feel like to know that Bon Jovi 87 00:04:00,660 --> 00:04:03,121 probably is at the moment the number one rock act in America? 88 00:04:03,205 --> 00:04:06,583 [Jon] We're not, uh, satisfied and we're not done. 89 00:04:06,666 --> 00:04:08,210 We're just hitting stride. 90 00:04:08,293 --> 00:04:10,086 [♪ "Lay Your Hands On Me" continues] 91 00:04:10,170 --> 00:04:13,340 [audience cheering] 92 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,342 It don't get no better 93 00:04:15,425 --> 00:04:17,302 [echoing] than this! 94 00:04:17,385 --> 00:04:19,554 One, two, three, four! 95 00:04:19,638 --> 00:04:20,722 It's going great. 96 00:04:20,805 --> 00:04:22,390 Kids are rocking, we're rocking. 97 00:04:22,474 --> 00:04:23,808 [interviewer 3] I mean, you really are earning your reputation 98 00:04:24,059 --> 00:04:25,352 as the hardest working band, aren't you? 99 00:04:25,519 --> 00:04:27,354 -[Jon] Absolutely. -♪ Lay your hands on me ♪ 100 00:04:28,772 --> 00:04:30,690 ♪ Lay your hands on me ♪ 101 00:04:31,149 --> 00:04:32,984 ♪ Lay your hands on me ♪ 102 00:04:33,068 --> 00:04:38,823 ♪ Lay your hands on me ♪ 103 00:04:40,784 --> 00:04:43,203 If you're healthy, it's the greatest thing in the whole world. 104 00:04:43,286 --> 00:04:44,704 You know, when you can hit the high notes, 105 00:04:44,788 --> 00:04:47,999 there's not a higher feeling in the world, 106 00:04:48,083 --> 00:04:49,626 you know, there's nothing better than that. 107 00:04:50,627 --> 00:04:54,422 [static crackling] 108 00:05:02,305 --> 00:05:05,225 [Jon] We are in day one 109 00:05:05,308 --> 00:05:08,603 of what will ultimately culminate 110 00:05:09,396 --> 00:05:11,523 in the 40th anniversary of the band. 111 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,361 Technically, it's year 39 and a half. 112 00:05:17,696 --> 00:05:19,489 We're about to start rehearsals 113 00:05:19,573 --> 00:05:23,410 in a place that I dreamt of playing when I was a kid. 114 00:05:24,202 --> 00:05:25,787 That's where we're having pre-production. 115 00:05:25,871 --> 00:05:29,541 That's the Meadowlands Arena. It's not used anymore. 116 00:05:30,417 --> 00:05:34,629 We've just taken it over for the next three weeks to rehearse. 117 00:05:35,297 --> 00:05:37,132 Go out, do some dates, 118 00:05:37,841 --> 00:05:40,927 take the rest of this year to figure out what the 40th is, 119 00:05:41,428 --> 00:05:44,264 and then go out and celebrate that journey. 120 00:05:45,390 --> 00:05:47,601 [♪ soft upbeat music playing] 121 00:05:47,684 --> 00:05:51,563 [people chattering indistinctly] 122 00:06:04,201 --> 00:06:05,911 Oh, hello, Snooky. 123 00:06:06,828 --> 00:06:08,330 -How are you, then? -Good. 124 00:06:08,413 --> 00:06:10,248 -I know, I love this stuff. -[Snooky] That's the stuff. 125 00:06:10,332 --> 00:06:12,125 -[Jon] I know. -[Snooky] It's the, the vocal magic. 126 00:06:12,334 --> 00:06:15,587 {\an8}[Jon] Obie! [laughing] 127 00:06:16,254 --> 00:06:18,965 {\an8}It is good to see you before you turn the six, the big six-0 128 00:06:19,049 --> 00:06:21,301 and everything just totally turns to rat shit. 129 00:06:22,427 --> 00:06:23,803 You look good for 40, though. 130 00:06:23,887 --> 00:06:25,931 [Obie O'Brien] I know. How are you feeling? 131 00:06:26,306 --> 00:06:27,432 [Jon] I feel great. 132 00:06:29,100 --> 00:06:32,229 How could this be the place where time stood still? 133 00:06:32,604 --> 00:06:34,189 Why wouldn't you play here? 134 00:06:34,564 --> 00:06:35,565 [agent] I don't know. 135 00:06:35,649 --> 00:06:37,400 I would play here in a minute. 136 00:06:37,984 --> 00:06:39,903 -[agent] It's a good venue. -[Jon] I love this place. 137 00:06:39,986 --> 00:06:42,239 It's always been so good 'cause they're on top of you. 138 00:06:42,864 --> 00:06:44,574 When I was a young guy, 139 00:06:44,658 --> 00:06:47,244 right around the time where we were just starting out, 140 00:06:47,327 --> 00:06:49,454 and, you know, you always think someday. 141 00:06:49,538 --> 00:06:52,040 And then I remember going to shows at the Meadowlands 142 00:06:52,123 --> 00:06:55,669 {\an8}and then I remember meeting a very famous agent saying, 143 00:06:55,752 --> 00:06:58,129 {\an8}"Someday, you know, you're gonna be my agent." 144 00:06:58,213 --> 00:06:59,339 And then saying to that agent, 145 00:06:59,422 --> 00:07:00,924 "Someday, I'm gonna headline here 146 00:07:01,007 --> 00:07:04,010 and golly gee, we're gonna put on a show." 147 00:07:04,094 --> 00:07:05,470 You know? [laughing] 148 00:07:05,554 --> 00:07:08,139 And then, uh, you know, how many times then 149 00:07:08,223 --> 00:07:09,766 of course we went on to play there. 150 00:07:10,225 --> 00:07:12,102 So it's almost like full circle 151 00:07:12,185 --> 00:07:14,813 of the success of the band to go back there. 152 00:07:14,896 --> 00:07:16,439 I think we should fucking book a week 153 00:07:16,523 --> 00:07:18,400 and just say "Fuck you" to everyone else. 154 00:07:18,483 --> 00:07:20,318 [agent] Hey, you call it. We'll-we'll sell it. 155 00:07:20,402 --> 00:07:22,445 [Jon] I could sell it, that's for sure. 156 00:07:22,904 --> 00:07:26,199 We never, in 40 years, 157 00:07:26,283 --> 00:07:28,034 have done three weeks rehearsal. 158 00:07:28,577 --> 00:07:30,370 Maybe we did four days. 159 00:07:31,288 --> 00:07:34,207 We never did this kind of rehearsal. 160 00:07:34,875 --> 00:07:38,295 But in a weird way, we all want that. 161 00:07:38,795 --> 00:07:40,547 We wanna sit in a room and just, 162 00:07:41,381 --> 00:07:44,176 no pressure, no... nothing. 163 00:07:46,303 --> 00:07:47,971 It's like a fuckin' time warp. 164 00:07:48,054 --> 00:07:49,639 What fucking year is this? 165 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,809 Floor monitors in the Meadowlands. 166 00:07:52,893 --> 00:07:55,395 -Ooh, ooh! [chuckles] -Oh, no. 167 00:07:55,478 --> 00:07:58,732 [♪ drums thudding] 168 00:08:01,610 --> 00:08:05,113 [♪ piano plays slowly] 169 00:08:05,197 --> 00:08:06,364 [sound tech] Hey, hey. Shh. 170 00:08:06,448 --> 00:08:07,741 [Jon] A lot of guys aren't there. 171 00:08:07,824 --> 00:08:09,034 Big changing of the guard. 172 00:08:09,117 --> 00:08:11,119 The stalwarts are the band. 173 00:08:11,203 --> 00:08:15,123 {\an8}Starting with David Bryan, my keyboard player, dear friend. 174 00:08:15,207 --> 00:08:19,753 David's been with me since we were 16 or 17 years old, 175 00:08:20,212 --> 00:08:21,630 all throughout the band's career. 176 00:08:21,713 --> 00:08:23,381 Same with Tico Torres. 177 00:08:23,465 --> 00:08:25,592 {\an8}He was a drummer that I never thought in a million years 178 00:08:25,675 --> 00:08:27,135 {\an8}would ever play with me. 179 00:08:27,219 --> 00:08:28,637 You know, he was the grownup in the band. 180 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,430 He's-he's 10 years older than I am. 181 00:08:31,306 --> 00:08:32,682 Hugh McDonald, the bass player, 182 00:08:32,974 --> 00:08:35,977 {\an8}actually played on Runaway before there was even a band. 183 00:08:36,144 --> 00:08:38,730 {\an8}So, you know, although Hugh wasn't a member 184 00:08:38,813 --> 00:08:40,357 {\an8}of the band for the longest time, 185 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,192 {\an8}I've known him, he's played with me a bunch. 186 00:08:42,692 --> 00:08:44,986 {\an8}John Shanks, playing guitar, 187 00:08:45,070 --> 00:08:47,489 {\an8}is, uh, co-producer of every record 188 00:08:47,572 --> 00:08:49,908 {\an8}since Have a Nice Day in 2005. 189 00:08:50,367 --> 00:08:53,787 {\an8}Everett Bradley is playing percussion because truthfully, uh, 190 00:08:54,162 --> 00:08:56,081 he adds a different dimension to the band, 191 00:08:56,164 --> 00:08:59,334 and he was there at a time when I, I needed him 192 00:08:59,417 --> 00:09:00,919 to fill out the sound. 193 00:09:01,378 --> 00:09:04,130 {\an8}And then Phil X came in a couple of times 194 00:09:04,214 --> 00:09:06,842 {\an8}during the times when, you know, Richie wasn't up to it. 195 00:09:06,925 --> 00:09:09,553 And then finally, you know, he stayed on 196 00:09:09,636 --> 00:09:11,847 and he's an incredibly talented cat. 197 00:09:11,930 --> 00:09:14,349 So he fills those shoes fully. 198 00:09:15,934 --> 00:09:17,227 So that's the band. 199 00:09:17,310 --> 00:09:18,311 Whoo! Come on. 200 00:09:18,395 --> 00:09:19,688 I used to run around these things 201 00:09:19,771 --> 00:09:21,731 like a motherfucker. 202 00:09:22,399 --> 00:09:24,693 [♪ electric guitar playing] 203 00:09:24,776 --> 00:09:26,611 So potent, fucker. 204 00:09:27,779 --> 00:09:29,489 One of the best there ever was. 205 00:09:29,823 --> 00:09:33,451 [♪ electric guitar playing] 206 00:09:35,871 --> 00:09:38,582 Now the champ is tired. [laughing] 207 00:09:42,168 --> 00:09:44,796 Unfortunately, the truth is, is I'm all over the place. 208 00:09:45,338 --> 00:09:46,673 You know, I have one foot in 209 00:09:46,756 --> 00:09:48,592 and one foot off the ground. 210 00:09:48,675 --> 00:09:49,885 Some days, I wake up 211 00:09:49,968 --> 00:09:51,136 and I, and I can't wait to get back 212 00:09:51,219 --> 00:09:52,262 in there and swing. 213 00:09:52,345 --> 00:09:53,889 And others, I-I regret 214 00:09:53,972 --> 00:09:56,349 that I'm doing this interview 215 00:09:56,433 --> 00:09:58,101 and that I'm going back on the road. 216 00:09:59,561 --> 00:10:02,063 To me, the greatest goal 217 00:10:02,147 --> 00:10:06,693 is that I truly just have joy in this next run. 218 00:10:06,776 --> 00:10:09,154 [♪ "Beautiful Drug" by Bon Jovi playing] 219 00:10:09,237 --> 00:10:13,241 ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh ♪ 220 00:10:13,325 --> 00:10:17,037 ♪ Tear off your mask, no need to hide ♪ 221 00:10:17,579 --> 00:10:21,499 ♪ There's a prescription that no doctor can prescribe ♪ 222 00:10:21,917 --> 00:10:25,420 I don't need to do this, I want to do this. 223 00:10:25,754 --> 00:10:29,257 So, my drive is much different. 224 00:10:29,341 --> 00:10:30,884 I'm not doing it for success. 225 00:10:30,967 --> 00:10:34,346 I'm not doing it for accolades or money. 226 00:10:34,429 --> 00:10:36,389 I just wanted to be good at it. 227 00:10:36,473 --> 00:10:38,225 I wanted to work hard at it. 228 00:10:38,308 --> 00:10:44,147 ♪ Love is a beautiful drug ♪ 229 00:10:44,231 --> 00:10:48,860 The joy is that oneness with the song, 230 00:10:49,486 --> 00:10:52,030 it's that connection to that place 231 00:10:52,113 --> 00:10:54,574 that takes you off of the stage. 232 00:10:54,658 --> 00:10:57,911 -♪ ...beautiful drug ♪ -♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh ♪ 233 00:10:57,994 --> 00:11:00,205 If the other side of it were to come back 234 00:11:00,288 --> 00:11:02,040 and you're too in your head, 235 00:11:02,123 --> 00:11:04,084 it's an anchor around your neck 236 00:11:04,167 --> 00:11:07,504 in every word of every song, every night. 237 00:11:08,213 --> 00:11:09,840 It's sheer torture. 238 00:11:10,382 --> 00:11:14,052 And I know what that is too, and I ain't going back. 239 00:11:14,135 --> 00:11:16,137 ♪ The taste, the touch, the stuff of dreams ♪ 240 00:11:16,221 --> 00:11:18,265 ♪ The paradise that's in between ♪ 241 00:11:18,348 --> 00:11:20,141 ♪ Honey of another hit ♪ 242 00:11:20,225 --> 00:11:22,602 ♪ You'd almost bite through your own lip ♪ 243 00:11:22,686 --> 00:11:24,521 ♪ The thorny rose that makes you bleed ♪ 244 00:11:24,604 --> 00:11:29,609 ♪ A kind of hurt that makes you scream ♪ 245 00:11:29,693 --> 00:11:31,945 ♪ Love ♪ 246 00:11:32,028 --> 00:11:35,198 ♪ Love is a beautiful drug ♪ 247 00:11:35,282 --> 00:11:39,035 And with every decade comes another life's lesson. 248 00:11:39,119 --> 00:11:44,624 At 25, all I was thinking about was fun, success. 249 00:11:44,958 --> 00:11:46,918 At 30, I got married, 250 00:11:47,002 --> 00:11:49,212 I had looked at success differently. 251 00:11:49,296 --> 00:11:50,797 By 40, you start to measure, 252 00:11:50,881 --> 00:11:52,716 did you accomplish what you set out to do. 253 00:11:52,799 --> 00:11:55,260 By 50, you start to think about a legacy. 254 00:11:55,343 --> 00:11:58,346 By 60, I think as the Chinese proverb says, 255 00:11:58,430 --> 00:12:00,724 it's basically, "You are the man you were meant to be." 256 00:12:01,516 --> 00:12:02,517 That's good. 257 00:12:03,351 --> 00:12:06,229 So at 60, it's like when I look back, 258 00:12:06,980 --> 00:12:08,982 did I become the man I wanted to be? 259 00:12:10,317 --> 00:12:12,402 -[reel clicking, whirring] -[audience cheering] 260 00:12:12,485 --> 00:12:14,487 [reporter] President Kennedy sitting in the front seat 261 00:12:14,571 --> 00:12:15,947 being helped out by Secret Service... 262 00:12:16,031 --> 00:12:18,241 [Jon] We were born into an era 263 00:12:18,366 --> 00:12:20,452 where the American dream was very much alive and well. 264 00:12:20,535 --> 00:12:22,746 We choose to go to the moon in this decade... 265 00:12:22,829 --> 00:12:24,956 [Jon] We were born when John Kennedy was elected president. 266 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,418 Not because they are easy, but because they are hard. 267 00:12:28,543 --> 00:12:30,253 [Jon] When he talked about sending a man to the moon. 268 00:12:30,337 --> 00:12:32,255 [NASA crew] [over comms] That's affirmative. Program alarm. 269 00:12:32,339 --> 00:12:35,967 {\an8}[Jon] They would tell you that anything you wanted to be, you could be. 270 00:12:36,051 --> 00:12:37,469 {\an8}[narrator 1] Just about the only thing that 271 00:12:37,552 --> 00:12:39,137 can make a 10-year-old sit still 272 00:12:39,221 --> 00:12:40,972 long enough for you to catch your breath. 273 00:12:41,056 --> 00:12:43,475 [Jon] That your parents were going to be the ones 274 00:12:43,558 --> 00:12:45,769 {\an8}to buy their first home in suburbia. 275 00:12:45,977 --> 00:12:47,938 {\an8}[narrator 2] The isolation of the suburbs, 276 00:12:48,021 --> 00:12:50,273 [narrator 3] 70% of the people in the metropolitan area 277 00:12:50,357 --> 00:12:52,025 own their own homes. 278 00:12:52,108 --> 00:12:56,404 It was just a wonderful little mix of European 279 00:12:56,988 --> 00:13:01,243 first and second generation families who came over 280 00:13:01,326 --> 00:13:03,995 and didn't get any farther than New Jersey. 281 00:13:04,079 --> 00:13:05,205 [laughs] 282 00:13:05,539 --> 00:13:07,791 [narrator] New Jersey is more than meets the eye. 283 00:13:08,250 --> 00:13:11,461 A place to study, a place to learn, 284 00:13:11,545 --> 00:13:13,672 a place to prepare for the future. 285 00:13:13,755 --> 00:13:17,467 And sometimes, New Jersey is a place to dream. 286 00:13:17,551 --> 00:13:20,053 It was very much the privilege 287 00:13:20,136 --> 00:13:24,099 {\an8}of being born in a certain place, 288 00:13:24,558 --> 00:13:27,519 at a certain time, looking a certain way. 289 00:13:27,936 --> 00:13:30,272 And although all of our families 290 00:13:30,355 --> 00:13:32,858 come from very blue collar working class, 291 00:13:33,191 --> 00:13:34,776 we also had a leg up 292 00:13:34,860 --> 00:13:37,404 because we didn't want for things. 293 00:13:37,779 --> 00:13:40,073 Our parents taught us all a work ethic, 294 00:13:42,284 --> 00:13:43,785 but then you-you felt like, 295 00:13:43,869 --> 00:13:45,328 we didn't have a care in the world. 296 00:13:45,412 --> 00:13:46,454 You had a roof over your head 297 00:13:46,663 --> 00:13:49,040 and shoes on your feet and food on the table. 298 00:13:49,541 --> 00:13:51,459 That was all part of the American dream. 299 00:13:51,543 --> 00:13:53,837 {\an8}You can do anything that you wanna do, 300 00:13:54,296 --> 00:13:55,589 and the whole world's out there, man, 301 00:13:55,672 --> 00:13:57,090 and it's just waiting for you to take it. 302 00:13:57,757 --> 00:13:59,968 {\an8}-[bat smacks] -[audience cheering] 303 00:14:01,845 --> 00:14:03,263 -[engine roaring] -[audience cheering] 304 00:14:03,346 --> 00:14:06,975 -[♪ soft music playing] -[audience applauding] 305 00:14:07,058 --> 00:14:09,436 I always say we were like America's greatest export 306 00:14:09,811 --> 00:14:11,396 {\an8}because it shows the American dream. 307 00:14:11,479 --> 00:14:14,107 {\an8}It's like five guys from nowhere. 308 00:14:14,191 --> 00:14:15,317 And if you work hard enough 309 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:16,985 and you dream big enough, you can make it. 310 00:14:17,068 --> 00:14:18,945 [♪ upbeat music playing] 311 00:14:19,029 --> 00:14:20,780 My dad was a trumpet player. 312 00:14:20,864 --> 00:14:22,616 He would always have big band like Al Hirt 313 00:14:22,699 --> 00:14:23,950 and Dizzy Gillespie. 314 00:14:24,034 --> 00:14:25,702 And he taught me trumpet when I was five. 315 00:14:25,785 --> 00:14:29,122 And, uh, I knew I had no career 'cause I stunk. 316 00:14:29,206 --> 00:14:31,833 But I love music. I-I just loved the feeling about it, you know? 317 00:14:31,917 --> 00:14:33,376 And then at seven, I started piano lessons, 318 00:14:33,460 --> 00:14:34,544 I auditioned for piano lessons. 319 00:14:34,628 --> 00:14:35,754 {\an8}[♪ upbeat piano music playing] 320 00:14:35,837 --> 00:14:37,714 {\an8}He was a Julliard graduate, Mr. Hack, 321 00:14:37,797 --> 00:14:40,133 {\an8}I remember he had a Hammond organ, like this one with pedals. 322 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,469 My first impression, I said to my dad, I'm like, 323 00:14:42,552 --> 00:14:44,012 "I don't wanna play the thing with the feet. 324 00:14:44,095 --> 00:14:45,138 [laughing] "It looks too hard. 325 00:14:45,222 --> 00:14:46,348 There's too many things. 326 00:14:46,431 --> 00:14:48,099 It looks hard enough with just your hands." 327 00:14:48,183 --> 00:14:50,477 And then he went to the piano, he started playing that, 328 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,063 and he started playing, like, Brahms and Bach 329 00:14:53,146 --> 00:14:54,314 and Schubert and Mozart. 330 00:14:54,397 --> 00:14:57,359 All this beautiful noise and sound 331 00:14:57,442 --> 00:14:58,985 was coming out of this piece of wood. 332 00:14:59,069 --> 00:15:01,321 And I went, "Whatever that is, I need to do that." 333 00:15:02,656 --> 00:15:06,701 [Jon] I would've been aware of music on the periphery. 334 00:15:07,035 --> 00:15:09,412 We did not have a musical household. 335 00:15:09,496 --> 00:15:11,998 It wasn't as if my parents ever sat down and said, 336 00:15:12,082 --> 00:15:13,458 "Listen to this." 337 00:15:13,959 --> 00:15:15,544 My mom was a florist, 338 00:15:15,752 --> 00:15:17,754 and she had a little gift shop at one point 339 00:15:17,838 --> 00:15:20,882 and somehow she brought an acoustic guitar home 340 00:15:20,966 --> 00:15:26,972 {\an8}and the Roy Clark learn-at-home guitar book and record. 341 00:15:27,055 --> 00:15:29,266 [Roy Clark] That was my Roy Clark Big Note Guitar songbook. 342 00:15:29,349 --> 00:15:31,101 [Jon] And I was seven, eight years old, 343 00:15:31,184 --> 00:15:32,477 so I had no desire. 344 00:15:32,894 --> 00:15:34,771 I remember throwing it down the basement stairs 345 00:15:34,855 --> 00:15:36,106 and breaking a tuning pick. 346 00:15:36,189 --> 00:15:37,649 And hey, you're makin' music. 347 00:15:37,732 --> 00:15:39,401 [Jon] But as you hit 12 and 13 years old 348 00:15:39,484 --> 00:15:40,819 and you're listening to the AM radio 349 00:15:40,902 --> 00:15:42,571 and the pop songs, you start liking them, 350 00:15:42,654 --> 00:15:44,531 and you start singing along a little bit. 351 00:15:44,614 --> 00:15:47,200 And that's when I found music in my own way. 352 00:15:47,284 --> 00:15:49,119 [♪ "The Ocean" by Led Zeppelin playing] 353 00:15:49,911 --> 00:15:52,289 ♪ I can hear the ocean's roar ♪ 354 00:15:53,874 --> 00:15:55,458 ♪ I don't think so ♪ 355 00:15:55,542 --> 00:15:58,044 [audience cheering] 356 00:15:58,837 --> 00:16:02,257 That's when a guy named Al Parinello moved in across the street 357 00:16:02,340 --> 00:16:05,468 and he was the hipper, younger version of my parents. 358 00:16:05,677 --> 00:16:07,721 He played guitar in a lounge band. 359 00:16:07,804 --> 00:16:09,139 {\an8}[♪ soft music playing] 360 00:16:09,222 --> 00:16:11,141 {\an8}And then I thought to go down into the basement 361 00:16:11,224 --> 00:16:12,726 {\an8}and pick up that guitar 362 00:16:13,059 --> 00:16:15,770 {\an8}because he's the one that had the patience 363 00:16:15,854 --> 00:16:17,564 {\an8}to show me a couple of chords. 364 00:16:18,148 --> 00:16:22,402 {\an8}And when I was lazy about it, was also stern enough to say, 365 00:16:22,485 --> 00:16:24,321 {\an8}"Stop wasting my time. 366 00:16:24,404 --> 00:16:27,240 {\an8}Learn this or get out of my basement." 367 00:16:27,616 --> 00:16:29,868 But that was exactly what I needed to hear. 368 00:16:30,368 --> 00:16:31,786 [David Bryan] An instrument is honest. 369 00:16:31,870 --> 00:16:33,538 If you don't practice, you suck. 370 00:16:33,914 --> 00:16:35,123 You can't lie to it. 371 00:16:35,207 --> 00:16:36,416 You can't just go, "Hey, I'm great." 372 00:16:36,499 --> 00:16:37,667 No, you're not great. 373 00:16:37,751 --> 00:16:39,044 If you put in the hours, 374 00:16:39,127 --> 00:16:40,837 that's the only thing. It's-it's honest. 375 00:16:40,921 --> 00:16:43,965 You put in the work, you get back the craft 376 00:16:44,049 --> 00:16:46,092 and then when you love it, you keep going forward, 377 00:16:46,176 --> 00:16:47,636 and then figure out songs and then, you know, 378 00:16:47,719 --> 00:16:48,970 it grows from there. 379 00:16:49,054 --> 00:16:50,764 And so then I worked hard, 380 00:16:50,847 --> 00:16:52,474 got my first calluses, 381 00:16:52,557 --> 00:16:54,518 and, uh, one thing led to another. 382 00:16:54,601 --> 00:16:57,771 And then you understood song structure. 383 00:16:57,854 --> 00:17:00,148 And when you looked at it like a little jigsaw puzzle, 384 00:17:00,273 --> 00:17:03,360 and the verse and the chorus and the bridge, you went, 385 00:17:03,443 --> 00:17:05,278 "Oh, it's like that." 386 00:17:06,780 --> 00:17:08,782 So then around that time, 387 00:17:08,865 --> 00:17:11,660 {\an8}my very first band was in a talent show. 388 00:17:12,077 --> 00:17:13,495 And, you know, of course we lost. 389 00:17:13,578 --> 00:17:14,663 [David] It was like right around, 390 00:17:14,746 --> 00:17:15,997 like, my bar mitzvah. 391 00:17:16,081 --> 00:17:19,459 My father got me a Farfisa Deluxe Combo organ 392 00:17:19,543 --> 00:17:20,877 and a Univox piano. 393 00:17:20,961 --> 00:17:23,672 He would always support my music habit. 394 00:17:23,755 --> 00:17:25,131 So I had great equipment. 395 00:17:25,632 --> 00:17:28,510 [Jon] It's probably a part of me that needed to be seen 396 00:17:28,593 --> 00:17:31,471 by not people, by and large, 397 00:17:31,721 --> 00:17:34,641 but by those who love you the most. 398 00:17:35,141 --> 00:17:37,018 It wasn't as though I woke up one morning 399 00:17:37,102 --> 00:17:38,812 and was the best singer in the school 400 00:17:38,895 --> 00:17:42,399 or on the block or in my house. [laughing] 401 00:17:42,482 --> 00:17:44,025 That's not saying much, 402 00:17:44,109 --> 00:17:46,403 but I just had a desire and a work ethic 403 00:17:46,486 --> 00:17:49,656 that was always the driving force. 404 00:17:49,739 --> 00:17:51,658 [reporter] He was just another kid from Jersey 405 00:17:51,741 --> 00:17:52,826 living a pretty routine life 406 00:17:52,909 --> 00:17:54,953 on this pretty routine suburban street 407 00:17:55,036 --> 00:17:57,789 {\an8}in a house Ward and June Cleaver would have loved. 408 00:17:58,790 --> 00:18:00,292 [Jon] In the town that I grew up in, 409 00:18:00,750 --> 00:18:03,044 the amount of kids that went to college were, 410 00:18:03,128 --> 00:18:05,172 I can't tell you they were even slim. 411 00:18:05,255 --> 00:18:07,340 They were really slim. 412 00:18:07,883 --> 00:18:09,926 {\an8}And I can remember all the parents were really happy 413 00:18:10,010 --> 00:18:12,554 {\an8}about their boys being in a band and kept 'em off the streets 414 00:18:12,637 --> 00:18:14,389 {\an8}and it kept them busy with something. 415 00:18:14,973 --> 00:18:17,267 But when it was time for these boys to graduate, 416 00:18:17,350 --> 00:18:20,228 parents said, "Okay, guys, it's time to grow up." 417 00:18:20,729 --> 00:18:24,608 [Jon] You worked in the factory or you took up a trade. 418 00:18:25,358 --> 00:18:27,569 But it was something to be proud of, 419 00:18:27,652 --> 00:18:28,862 working in the trades. 420 00:18:29,529 --> 00:18:31,239 Uh, my father was a hairdresser, 421 00:18:31,323 --> 00:18:33,033 my grandfather was a plumber. 422 00:18:33,116 --> 00:18:35,452 These were considerations for me as a youth, 423 00:18:35,535 --> 00:18:37,037 simply because that's what we knew. 424 00:18:37,954 --> 00:18:39,915 My three best friends joined the service. 425 00:18:39,998 --> 00:18:41,124 [soldiers] Sir, yes, sir! 426 00:18:41,208 --> 00:18:42,417 [Jon] It wasn't for me 427 00:18:42,584 --> 00:18:45,504 because I was already pursuing music. 428 00:18:45,587 --> 00:18:48,173 And we're coming up on beautiful Sayreville High School. 429 00:18:48,757 --> 00:18:51,635 The junior high for two years, you're supposed to go for three. 430 00:18:51,718 --> 00:18:54,221 So I left there to go to a different high school, 431 00:18:54,304 --> 00:18:55,430 'cause I was failing. 432 00:18:55,514 --> 00:18:59,059 So, um, I-I-I bolted from that school 433 00:18:59,142 --> 00:19:00,852 and went to Sayreville High School. 434 00:19:01,186 --> 00:19:04,356 I mean, I remember being in some kind of high school class 435 00:19:04,439 --> 00:19:07,067 and the singing teacher saying, "You haven't got it." 436 00:19:07,484 --> 00:19:10,153 Or my dad taking me to a singing lesson once 437 00:19:10,237 --> 00:19:12,989 and the guy basically saying, "I don't think so." 438 00:19:13,615 --> 00:19:16,117 I walked out of both of them saying, "I think so." 439 00:19:23,333 --> 00:19:26,211 [people chattering indistinctly] 440 00:19:26,294 --> 00:19:27,462 -Hey, good to see you. -Hey, bud. 441 00:19:27,546 --> 00:19:28,588 -Everything alright? -Yep. 442 00:19:34,177 --> 00:19:35,470 [Jon exhales] 443 00:19:37,055 --> 00:19:38,348 [Jon blows raspberry] 444 00:19:39,808 --> 00:19:42,686 You know, I have COVID brain fog like everyone else. 445 00:19:42,769 --> 00:19:46,189 Was it '18 or '19 when we were out last? 446 00:19:46,273 --> 00:19:48,733 I, honest to God, would have to look on a calendar. 447 00:19:49,276 --> 00:19:51,152 [vocal coach] [over video call] How was your weekend? 448 00:19:51,236 --> 00:19:52,946 [Jon] Uh, wonderfully uneventful. 449 00:19:53,029 --> 00:19:54,906 -How 'bout yourself? -[vocal coach] Oh, that's wonderful. 450 00:19:55,407 --> 00:19:57,158 Did you get any singing done or... 451 00:19:57,242 --> 00:20:00,036 [Jon] Uh, no, I didn't, but that's alright. 452 00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:02,372 -[vocal coach] Awesome. Awesome. -I have been very ready 453 00:20:02,455 --> 00:20:04,374 and raring to go today. 454 00:20:04,791 --> 00:20:07,210 -[vocal coach] Excellent. -Mm-hmm. 455 00:20:07,294 --> 00:20:09,796 [vocal coach] I like how you took a couple minutes to do your look behinds, 456 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,715 we're pressing up into the molars. 457 00:20:11,798 --> 00:20:14,342 And then on either side of the soft... hard palate. 458 00:20:15,260 --> 00:20:18,096 [Jon] I'm gonna guess it was the fall of '19. 459 00:20:18,597 --> 00:20:19,973 We were in South America. 460 00:20:20,473 --> 00:20:23,727 But I do remember at that time saying to myself, 461 00:20:24,269 --> 00:20:25,770 "Maybe it's time to walk away. 462 00:20:25,854 --> 00:20:27,063 Maybe it's time to cool it." 463 00:20:27,147 --> 00:20:31,276 [vocalizing] 464 00:20:31,693 --> 00:20:35,655 And it's the idea of wanting to achieve excellence 465 00:20:35,739 --> 00:20:40,160 but also knowing the price that you pay to do that, 466 00:20:40,243 --> 00:20:42,579 physically, mentally, emotionally. 467 00:20:42,829 --> 00:20:44,247 Coming to terms with who I am now 468 00:20:44,331 --> 00:20:46,333 versus who I once was. 469 00:20:47,542 --> 00:20:52,297 As I got older and the drive to maintain that being 470 00:20:52,380 --> 00:20:55,926 on the stage, you know, it takes more and more. 471 00:20:56,301 --> 00:20:58,094 [vocal coach] You're working that one. [laughing] 472 00:20:58,178 --> 00:21:00,096 No, yeah, it's good. Good, good, good, good, good. 473 00:21:00,180 --> 00:21:01,181 [clapping] 474 00:21:01,556 --> 00:21:04,142 For the New Jersey tour, I started to take, 475 00:21:04,226 --> 00:21:05,435 you know, vocal lessons, 476 00:21:05,936 --> 00:21:08,104 and I just got better and better and better as a singer. 477 00:21:09,105 --> 00:21:11,441 You know, 2008, '10, '13, 478 00:21:11,525 --> 00:21:13,360 I was great. I was really enjoying it. 479 00:21:13,485 --> 00:21:15,195 [vocalizing] 480 00:21:15,278 --> 00:21:17,322 -Hmm, I don't like where it's going. -[vocal coach] You got it. 481 00:21:17,405 --> 00:21:19,574 -I got it, though. -[vocal coach] No, take your time with it. 482 00:21:19,658 --> 00:21:21,243 Take your time with it, it takes a minute. 483 00:21:21,326 --> 00:21:24,746 [vocalizing] 484 00:21:27,582 --> 00:21:29,417 [vocal coach] Good, rest for a second. Reset your body. 485 00:21:29,501 --> 00:21:31,461 -Yeah. [clears throat] -[vocal coach] Let's do that again. 486 00:21:31,545 --> 00:21:35,340 [Jon] But after '13 is when the problems really started. 487 00:21:35,799 --> 00:21:38,718 Just wasn't up to what I wanted it to be. 488 00:21:39,511 --> 00:21:41,930 And so, you know, the last couple years, 489 00:21:42,013 --> 00:21:43,807 I've just tried so many different things 490 00:21:43,890 --> 00:21:46,852 to get back to what I liked 10 years ago. 491 00:21:46,935 --> 00:21:48,812 [♪ soft music playing] 492 00:21:48,895 --> 00:21:51,690 And at 50, things change. 493 00:21:52,399 --> 00:21:54,776 And at 60 it's like, "Holy fuck." 494 00:21:59,072 --> 00:22:00,532 Is it tiring? No. 495 00:22:00,615 --> 00:22:01,700 But it's like a workout. 496 00:22:01,783 --> 00:22:05,579 You know, you feel like you did your... time 497 00:22:05,662 --> 00:22:07,205 and on a Monday morning, it's usually got 498 00:22:07,289 --> 00:22:09,291 a little bit of spider webs. 499 00:22:11,585 --> 00:22:16,882 This, uh, four-headed laser is aimed here at my chords 500 00:22:17,799 --> 00:22:19,676 and the vagal nerves. 501 00:22:20,135 --> 00:22:24,556 And what it does is it stimulates blood flow, 502 00:22:25,140 --> 00:22:28,351 trying to alleviate as much inflammation any way we can. 503 00:22:29,561 --> 00:22:31,646 There's three different vocal coaches, 504 00:22:32,606 --> 00:22:34,566 there's a couple different lasers, 505 00:22:35,150 --> 00:22:37,068 there's a boatload of vitamins. 506 00:22:37,777 --> 00:22:41,323 If I can't be the very best I can be, I'm out. 507 00:22:42,365 --> 00:22:44,534 I'm not here to drag down the legacy. 508 00:22:44,618 --> 00:22:46,453 I am not here for the "Where Are They Now" tour, 509 00:22:46,536 --> 00:22:48,413 I'm not ever gonna be the fat Elvis, 510 00:22:48,496 --> 00:22:49,998 ain't happening. [laughing] 511 00:22:50,332 --> 00:22:51,458 [♪ soft guitar music playing] 512 00:22:51,541 --> 00:22:53,752 But it took voodoo and science 513 00:22:53,835 --> 00:22:57,088 and a lot of hard work 514 00:22:57,172 --> 00:23:00,300 to get it to where I-I figure I can do this. 515 00:23:00,383 --> 00:23:03,887 [♪ strumming "Blaze of Glory"] 516 00:23:03,970 --> 00:23:07,224 It's got little cracks just from leaving it out. 517 00:23:09,142 --> 00:23:10,685 Alright, what else you wanna do? 518 00:23:11,436 --> 00:23:15,273 [♪ upbeat rock music playing] 519 00:23:16,358 --> 00:23:17,692 [camera clicks] 520 00:23:17,776 --> 00:23:19,152 [Jon] It's the late '70s. 521 00:23:19,236 --> 00:23:22,322 On my bedroom walls were the '70s icons, 522 00:23:22,405 --> 00:23:24,824 Led Zeppelin standing in front of that 747... 523 00:23:24,908 --> 00:23:25,992 [engine roaring] 524 00:23:26,076 --> 00:23:28,370 {\an8}...Rolling Stones, 525 00:23:28,453 --> 00:23:30,247 Kiss, Lynyrd Skynyrd. 526 00:23:30,330 --> 00:23:32,707 -[♪ rock music playing] -[audience cheering] 527 00:23:32,791 --> 00:23:33,875 [Jon] That was impossible. 528 00:23:33,959 --> 00:23:36,419 ♪ Comin' home to you ♪ 529 00:23:36,503 --> 00:23:40,507 {\an8}[Jon] But 25 minutes south of Sayreville, New Jersey 530 00:23:40,590 --> 00:23:42,592 was this place that was making music. 531 00:23:42,676 --> 00:23:44,886 [announcer] Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes. 532 00:23:44,970 --> 00:23:47,264 [Jon] Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes. 533 00:23:47,931 --> 00:23:49,850 Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band. 534 00:23:50,767 --> 00:23:54,396 The songs that they wrote were from the places in which we came. 535 00:23:55,063 --> 00:23:58,149 The Stone Pony, a landmark in Asbury Park 536 00:23:58,233 --> 00:24:01,278 and the spawning ground for some of the greatest rock and roll. 537 00:24:01,361 --> 00:24:03,238 Southside Johnny and the Jukes. 538 00:24:03,321 --> 00:24:04,906 [laughing] 539 00:24:04,990 --> 00:24:08,034 {\an8}It's like a disease, you know, it, uh, never leaves you. 540 00:24:08,577 --> 00:24:12,247 A sexually transmitted disease, being from New Jersey. 541 00:24:12,330 --> 00:24:13,623 All across the East Coast 542 00:24:13,707 --> 00:24:16,334 an-and in Asbury Park is an amazing event. 543 00:24:16,418 --> 00:24:18,545 [Southside Johnny] Well, Asbury Park was the happening place 544 00:24:18,628 --> 00:24:21,089 because there were a lot of bars with bands. 545 00:24:21,464 --> 00:24:23,425 So when we started playing, 546 00:24:23,508 --> 00:24:25,427 there was a bunch of clubs 547 00:24:25,510 --> 00:24:27,179 that we could get into. 548 00:24:28,180 --> 00:24:30,557 So it was a chance for all of us to go and jam 549 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,393 and hone our skills and perform in front of an audience. 550 00:24:33,476 --> 00:24:36,229 And it was really a formative time, 551 00:24:36,313 --> 00:24:38,607 Bruce, Steve Van Zandt, Garry Tallent. 552 00:24:39,774 --> 00:24:41,985 And we just really wanted to find our own voices. 553 00:24:42,068 --> 00:24:44,571 [♪ "Love On The Wrong Side Of Town" by Bruce Springsteen playing] 554 00:24:45,405 --> 00:24:47,282 ♪ When I needed you by my side ♪ 555 00:24:47,365 --> 00:24:49,326 This concert was as hot as those hot dogs next door. 556 00:24:49,409 --> 00:24:51,328 It's hysteria, it's excitement. 557 00:24:51,411 --> 00:24:52,537 [Jon] As I got a little older 558 00:24:52,621 --> 00:24:54,414 and with older friends able to go down 559 00:24:54,497 --> 00:24:56,583 to Asbury Park, 560 00:24:56,666 --> 00:24:58,710 there wasn't any chance 561 00:24:58,793 --> 00:25:01,296 that you wouldn't run into at least one of them 562 00:25:01,379 --> 00:25:03,256 on any given night. [laughs] 563 00:25:03,340 --> 00:25:05,675 -All we wanna know... -Yeah? 564 00:25:05,759 --> 00:25:07,886 ...is what are you people doing in my town? 565 00:25:07,969 --> 00:25:09,221 {\an8}-[fan] Right on! -[♪ upbeat music playing] 566 00:25:09,304 --> 00:25:10,430 {\an8}[Southside Johnny] Steve Van Zandt and I saw 567 00:25:10,514 --> 00:25:11,806 Sam and Dave one time, 568 00:25:11,890 --> 00:25:13,350 and we thought, "That's what we want to do." 569 00:25:13,767 --> 00:25:17,646 And I thought, "My God, what an incredible thing to do 570 00:25:17,771 --> 00:25:20,273 to have all these people in the palm of your hand." 571 00:25:20,815 --> 00:25:23,276 For me, that was the kind of music that was alive. 572 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:25,987 [♪ playing "This Time It's For Real" by Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes] 573 00:25:26,071 --> 00:25:28,448 ♪ Baby, don't slow me down ♪ 574 00:25:28,532 --> 00:25:31,952 ♪ I've come too far to ever turn around ♪ 575 00:25:32,035 --> 00:25:36,164 I think that we all learned from The Animals 576 00:25:36,248 --> 00:25:38,542 and the Rolling Stones and Paul Butterfield Blues Band 577 00:25:38,625 --> 00:25:41,294 that white people could play Black music, 578 00:25:41,795 --> 00:25:45,090 along with rock and roll, Jerry Lee Lewis and that kind of stuff. 579 00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:49,636 And I guess we started to influence people by doing what we wanted to do. 580 00:25:49,719 --> 00:25:52,889 And they thought, "Well, if these guys can do it, I can do it too." 581 00:25:53,598 --> 00:25:57,143 [Jon] I was 16, and the drinking age was 18, 582 00:25:57,227 --> 00:25:59,396 which is really integral to this story, 583 00:25:59,479 --> 00:26:03,149 is at 16 you could sneak in pretending to be 18 584 00:26:03,233 --> 00:26:07,571 and seeing any one of those 10 members of The Asbury Jukes, 585 00:26:07,654 --> 00:26:09,781 seven members of the E Street Band... 586 00:26:09,865 --> 00:26:11,658 [air whooshing] 587 00:26:11,741 --> 00:26:14,828 ...it made the impossible right there. 588 00:26:14,911 --> 00:26:16,246 {\an8}One of the things that, uh, 589 00:26:16,329 --> 00:26:18,748 {\an8}critics have been saying about rock and roll in the '70s 590 00:26:18,832 --> 00:26:20,417 {\an8}is that there's been very little substance. 591 00:26:20,500 --> 00:26:21,626 Well, ladies and gentlemen, 592 00:26:21,710 --> 00:26:22,961 I'm here to tell you Bruce Springsteen 593 00:26:23,044 --> 00:26:25,213 and the E Street Band are substance. 594 00:26:25,297 --> 00:26:28,049 No one wanted to be associated with New Jersey. 595 00:26:28,133 --> 00:26:30,969 {\an8}I mean, even when I went to make my first record, 596 00:26:31,052 --> 00:26:33,555 {\an8}they wanted me to say I was a New York-based artist. 597 00:26:33,638 --> 00:26:37,392 [♪ "The Promised Land" by Bruce Springsteen and E Street Band plays] 598 00:26:41,104 --> 00:26:44,774 ♪ On a rattlesnake speedway in the Utah desert ♪ 599 00:26:44,858 --> 00:26:47,944 ♪ I pick up my money and head back into town ♪ 600 00:26:48,028 --> 00:26:50,906 It was unusual at the time 601 00:26:50,989 --> 00:26:54,743 for an artist to identify himself with New Jersey 602 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,537 and all of its glories, you know? 603 00:26:58,455 --> 00:27:01,166 I just sort of embraced it as my identity, 604 00:27:01,249 --> 00:27:04,002 the Boardwalk and Asbury Park 605 00:27:04,085 --> 00:27:06,588 {\an8}and all the street people from the city. 606 00:27:06,671 --> 00:27:08,256 And I said, "Yeah, these are the people 607 00:27:08,340 --> 00:27:09,758 "I want to write about, 608 00:27:09,841 --> 00:27:12,594 and this is who I want to be and who I am." 609 00:27:13,428 --> 00:27:15,597 [Jon] Now you could touch the dream, 610 00:27:15,722 --> 00:27:17,557 'cause there it was. 611 00:27:17,641 --> 00:27:20,101 It wasn't those pictures on my wall that you think 612 00:27:20,727 --> 00:27:24,147 I aspire to be, you know, Led Zeppelin. 613 00:27:24,231 --> 00:27:26,066 It was way too big for me to fathom. 614 00:27:26,650 --> 00:27:27,984 Let's go! 615 00:27:29,819 --> 00:27:31,154 But those guys, 616 00:27:31,696 --> 00:27:32,948 who were singing about 617 00:27:33,031 --> 00:27:35,534 the highway that was out our window, 618 00:27:35,951 --> 00:27:38,411 that made it incredibly possible. 619 00:27:38,495 --> 00:27:42,207 ♪ And I believe in a promised land ♪ 620 00:27:43,750 --> 00:27:45,502 {\an8}[audience cheering] 621 00:27:45,585 --> 00:27:48,922 {\an8}[Jon] By the time I was 17, 622 00:27:49,464 --> 00:27:52,801 I was sneaking into those bars and, and performing 623 00:27:53,677 --> 00:27:55,095 with the Atlantic City Expressway, 624 00:27:55,178 --> 00:27:56,763 my first real band. 625 00:27:56,847 --> 00:27:59,349 [♪ soft upbeat music playing] 626 00:27:59,432 --> 00:28:01,184 The bass player's name was Steve Pretti. 627 00:28:01,268 --> 00:28:03,562 He was one of the three guys that joined the Navy. 628 00:28:04,604 --> 00:28:05,856 The guy I went to high school with, 629 00:28:05,939 --> 00:28:07,524 by the name of Willie Hercek, 630 00:28:07,607 --> 00:28:08,984 he was really into the whole 631 00:28:09,067 --> 00:28:11,653 Asbury sound and taught me a lot about it. 632 00:28:11,736 --> 00:28:14,739 And he was in the Expressway, right at the inception. 633 00:28:14,823 --> 00:28:19,786 His father owned a bar in Perth Amboy, 634 00:28:20,537 --> 00:28:23,540 and Willie told me about David. 635 00:28:24,332 --> 00:28:27,210 David's father owned a surgical supply store 636 00:28:27,294 --> 00:28:29,921 in Perth Amboy and had a van. 637 00:28:30,005 --> 00:28:31,506 I got the gig just because of the equipment, 638 00:28:31,590 --> 00:28:32,924 and I had a van. 639 00:28:33,425 --> 00:28:35,635 [Jon] He had a Hammond organ in the van. He's in the band. 640 00:28:35,719 --> 00:28:38,388 I don't care what he looks like or what he plays, he's in. 641 00:28:38,471 --> 00:28:40,849 And that's when I had a big Hammond organ like this, 642 00:28:40,932 --> 00:28:42,517 a big Hammond, and I had this piano, 643 00:28:42,601 --> 00:28:44,144 I had all this equipment by then. 644 00:28:44,227 --> 00:28:45,604 He could play. 645 00:28:45,687 --> 00:28:49,274 He was, he was the kid who took lessons for real. 646 00:28:49,357 --> 00:28:51,943 He was a far better musician than I was. 647 00:28:52,027 --> 00:28:53,528 [David] I'm like, "Great, where does he live?" 648 00:28:53,612 --> 00:28:54,946 I'm like, "Sayreville." I'm like, "Okay." 649 00:28:55,030 --> 00:28:56,323 It's right across the bridge. 650 00:28:56,406 --> 00:28:57,782 They did a cover band. 651 00:28:57,866 --> 00:28:59,075 They were like Springsteen and Jukes 652 00:28:59,159 --> 00:29:00,368 and a couple originals. 653 00:29:00,452 --> 00:29:02,078 And at the time I knew 654 00:29:02,162 --> 00:29:04,247 Born to Run and We're Having a Party. 655 00:29:04,331 --> 00:29:06,249 And so Dave fit, 656 00:29:06,333 --> 00:29:09,002 you know, we carried that son of a gun B three 657 00:29:09,085 --> 00:29:11,379 down into the bass player's mother's house and set it up. 658 00:29:11,463 --> 00:29:13,131 And between that and the horns 659 00:29:13,215 --> 00:29:15,717 and the two loud electric guitars... 660 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:17,802 it was the sound of a band. 661 00:29:17,886 --> 00:29:20,263 [♪ upbeat music playing] 662 00:29:20,347 --> 00:29:24,601 [David] I wasn't into that kind of blue-eyed soul and soul music. 663 00:29:24,684 --> 00:29:26,520 And, uh, it just won my heart over. 664 00:29:26,603 --> 00:29:28,772 I was like, "Wow, five horns, everybody's loud. 665 00:29:28,897 --> 00:29:31,233 There's like 10 people making music." 666 00:29:31,358 --> 00:29:34,736 -[♪ upbeat trumpet music playing] -[camera clicking] 667 00:29:37,405 --> 00:29:40,033 It was the closest to God-like I think you could ever get. 668 00:29:40,116 --> 00:29:41,618 I was like, "I need to do this." 669 00:29:42,911 --> 00:29:44,704 ♪ I know it's been a long time ♪ 670 00:29:44,788 --> 00:29:47,624 [Jon] The Expressways now playing high school dances 671 00:29:47,707 --> 00:29:51,169 and a bar emulating Southside Johnny. 672 00:29:52,212 --> 00:29:54,256 And fortunately, back in Asbury Park, 673 00:29:54,339 --> 00:29:56,883 in the late '70s and early '80s, 674 00:29:57,050 --> 00:29:59,010 there was a place called The Fast Lane. 675 00:29:59,386 --> 00:30:03,056 And that's where David used to do his high school homework. 676 00:30:03,139 --> 00:30:04,850 [David] And when we did the first gig, I was like, 677 00:30:04,933 --> 00:30:07,269 "Wow, he's great. This is great. 678 00:30:07,352 --> 00:30:08,478 "The money's not great. 679 00:30:08,854 --> 00:30:10,981 We got, like, 150 bucks for 10 people." 680 00:30:11,481 --> 00:30:13,650 [Jon] You had gas, and you had the bar bill. 681 00:30:13,733 --> 00:30:14,943 So there was no money in it, 682 00:30:15,026 --> 00:30:18,029 and that wasn't what any of us were motivated by. 683 00:30:18,113 --> 00:30:19,573 [David] We had to pay a buck a beer. 684 00:30:19,656 --> 00:30:22,534 So I think I ended up being in the hole every night. 685 00:30:22,617 --> 00:30:24,119 But I cheated him out of like 10 bucks 686 00:30:24,202 --> 00:30:26,246 for gas money or something, I was... Don't tell anybody. 687 00:30:26,329 --> 00:30:27,455 [camera clicks] 688 00:30:27,998 --> 00:30:31,710 [Jon] You know, when you're that young and naive, 689 00:30:32,419 --> 00:30:34,880 blind faith is enough to get you by. 690 00:30:34,963 --> 00:30:36,464 Alright! Thank you very much. 691 00:30:36,548 --> 00:30:38,133 I'd like to remind you of the name of the group, 692 00:30:38,216 --> 00:30:39,968 we're the Atlantic City Expressway. 693 00:30:40,051 --> 00:30:41,803 We stole that sign off the highway. 694 00:30:41,887 --> 00:30:42,888 [♪ strums chord] 695 00:30:42,971 --> 00:30:44,973 It was him, officer, it was him. 696 00:30:46,266 --> 00:30:47,934 We would play the Fast Lane, 697 00:30:48,018 --> 00:30:49,895 then we would play up and down the Jersey Shore. 698 00:30:49,978 --> 00:30:51,563 There was a lot of clubs you could play. 699 00:30:51,646 --> 00:30:54,357 [Jon] And that's when, you know, we'd go to get the van 700 00:30:54,441 --> 00:30:57,819 {\an8}to fill it with gear and drive down to do a show. 701 00:30:58,361 --> 00:31:00,614 -[engine rumbling] -[♪ upbeat music playing] 702 00:31:00,697 --> 00:31:02,032 I'd get done playing, 703 00:31:02,115 --> 00:31:04,201 I'd get all the equipment and the horn players, 704 00:31:04,659 --> 00:31:07,120 drive back up to Sayreville, drop them off, 705 00:31:07,204 --> 00:31:09,122 go over the bridge, go into Perth Amboy, 706 00:31:09,831 --> 00:31:12,709 drop all the shit off into my father's warehouse, 707 00:31:12,792 --> 00:31:15,045 get my car, get back home at 5:00 in the morning, 708 00:31:15,128 --> 00:31:16,713 and I have to get up at 7:00 for high school. 709 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,133 [laughing] So I was, uh, just trying to survive. 710 00:31:21,009 --> 00:31:23,011 [Jon] What was wonderful about my parents 711 00:31:23,094 --> 00:31:25,180 and their support of it was, 712 00:31:25,263 --> 00:31:26,556 they said, "We knew you were in a bar 713 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,891 {\an8}"until 2:00 in the morning, 714 00:31:27,974 --> 00:31:29,935 {\an8}"but at least we knew where you were. 715 00:31:30,393 --> 00:31:32,521 "And if we had seen that you were 716 00:31:32,854 --> 00:31:36,566 "not working at this every day, all day, 717 00:31:36,650 --> 00:31:38,485 "we may have had to step in and say, 718 00:31:38,944 --> 00:31:42,697 "'Wait a minute, son, you have to go apply for a trade.'" 719 00:31:42,781 --> 00:31:45,408 Saw them at the Fast Lane, when he was like 17 years old. 720 00:31:45,492 --> 00:31:48,453 And I was very impressed with his stage presence 721 00:31:48,537 --> 00:31:50,080 and you know, all of that. 722 00:31:50,705 --> 00:31:53,166 He really hadn't found himself yet. 723 00:31:53,250 --> 00:31:55,293 [Jon] If you want anything in this world, 724 00:31:55,377 --> 00:31:57,420 if you want it bad enough, 725 00:31:58,463 --> 00:31:59,756 anything is possible. 726 00:32:00,298 --> 00:32:02,300 I remember we'd have to walk to high school. 727 00:32:02,384 --> 00:32:03,969 I was always talking about things like, 728 00:32:04,052 --> 00:32:05,846 "This is our tour jacket." 729 00:32:05,929 --> 00:32:07,347 [laughing] 730 00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:10,600 Not so much, you know, practicing four days a week, 731 00:32:10,684 --> 00:32:12,561 but we need a photo session 732 00:32:12,644 --> 00:32:16,189 and we need to see Southside somewhere. 733 00:32:16,690 --> 00:32:20,318 So all those great memories of what was Asbury 734 00:32:20,402 --> 00:32:22,737 and what was, uh, original music 735 00:32:22,821 --> 00:32:26,867 and what was a community of up-and-coming musicians 736 00:32:26,950 --> 00:32:29,369 as well as those who had already landed record deals. 737 00:32:29,828 --> 00:32:32,998 The pinnacle of all of this was a record deal. 738 00:32:33,999 --> 00:32:37,002 Once Bruce got his record contract, 739 00:32:37,085 --> 00:32:38,962 all of a sudden, we were more respectable. 740 00:32:39,045 --> 00:32:41,923 And then when Born To Run came out, 741 00:32:42,507 --> 00:32:45,385 all of a sudden, everybody wanted to sign somebody from New Jersey. 742 00:32:46,178 --> 00:32:48,346 [Jon] In 1979, 743 00:32:48,430 --> 00:32:51,391 I was singing a song off of 744 00:32:51,766 --> 00:32:53,727 that album called Darkness on the Edge of Town. 745 00:32:54,686 --> 00:32:56,021 And I looked up, 746 00:32:56,563 --> 00:32:58,857 and there's Bruce on stage with me. 747 00:32:58,940 --> 00:33:00,650 [♪ "The Promised Land" resumes playing] 748 00:33:00,734 --> 00:33:02,861 ♪ ...dark cloud rising from the desert floor ♪ 749 00:33:02,944 --> 00:33:07,449 ♪ I packed my bags and I'm heading straight into the storm ♪ 750 00:33:07,532 --> 00:33:08,950 That was the guy, you know? 751 00:33:09,034 --> 00:33:11,244 And he jumps up and sings his song with me. 752 00:33:11,328 --> 00:33:14,039 And I like to play. I like to play, you know? 753 00:33:14,122 --> 00:33:16,666 ♪ Blow away the dreams that tear you... ♪ 754 00:33:16,750 --> 00:33:18,251 [Bruce Springsteen] I think that was what... 755 00:33:18,335 --> 00:33:20,837 well, there's some young kid around here from New Jersey 756 00:33:20,921 --> 00:33:22,631 who's making some kind of noise, you know? 757 00:33:22,714 --> 00:33:24,883 That was the first thing I knew about Jon. 758 00:33:24,966 --> 00:33:26,843 He is a hardworking guy, you know, put everything 759 00:33:26,927 --> 00:33:28,053 he had into his music. 760 00:33:28,136 --> 00:33:29,846 [David] We did Promised Land. 761 00:33:29,930 --> 00:33:31,932 It was the second verse, I still have a cassette tape of it. 762 00:33:32,015 --> 00:33:34,267 And it was like, "Oh, my God, that's Bruce. He's singing with us." 763 00:33:34,351 --> 00:33:38,396 ♪ And I believe in a promised land ♪ 764 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,024 [Jon] So you go to high school the next day, needless to say, 765 00:33:41,107 --> 00:33:43,235 you look at the teacher and you look at the kids and you go... 766 00:33:44,945 --> 00:33:46,196 "I got a story to tell." 767 00:33:46,279 --> 00:33:48,448 And it's a lot better than history class. 768 00:33:48,532 --> 00:33:51,618 Bruce and, and anyone else in that band, 769 00:33:51,701 --> 00:33:53,787 or you know, in that whole clique down there, 770 00:33:53,870 --> 00:33:58,083 was always very, very, very supportive of-of myself 771 00:33:58,166 --> 00:33:59,709 and the groups that I played in. 772 00:33:59,793 --> 00:34:01,294 [♪ soft music playing] 773 00:34:01,378 --> 00:34:05,632 It made me even more single-mindedly focused 774 00:34:06,174 --> 00:34:08,885 that the impossible was well within reach. 775 00:34:09,636 --> 00:34:12,973 Shortly thereafter, I stopped playing covers. 776 00:34:13,390 --> 00:34:15,559 I stopped being in-in any band 777 00:34:15,642 --> 00:34:17,936 who was gonna rely on playing other people's material. 778 00:34:18,395 --> 00:34:21,940 In our senior year, then Jon, uh, then Jon quit. 779 00:34:22,357 --> 00:34:23,483 [air whooshing] 780 00:34:23,567 --> 00:34:26,069 [Jon] By the beginning of 1980, 781 00:34:26,152 --> 00:34:27,863 in my senior year of high school, 782 00:34:27,946 --> 00:34:30,448 I quit my own cover band. 783 00:34:31,324 --> 00:34:33,034 But I said, "I'm out. I have to go. 784 00:34:33,201 --> 00:34:35,537 I gotta go figure this out the right way." 785 00:34:35,996 --> 00:34:38,665 [David] He had a vision to know that if you're gonna be in a cover band, 786 00:34:38,832 --> 00:34:40,292 you're gonna play somebody else's music. 787 00:34:40,750 --> 00:34:42,210 And if you're an original band, 788 00:34:42,627 --> 00:34:44,504 you're gonna have cover bands playing your music. 789 00:34:45,213 --> 00:34:46,965 And that's the only road to the future. 790 00:34:47,048 --> 00:34:50,177 [Jon] I joined someone else's band, wasn't my vision, 791 00:34:50,260 --> 00:34:52,387 wasn't my band, I was just the singer. 792 00:34:53,054 --> 00:34:54,764 I didn't know enough about songwriting 793 00:34:54,848 --> 00:34:56,850 {\an8}and I certainly hadn't written enough songs yet. 794 00:34:57,434 --> 00:35:01,021 {\an8}So I would rather make no money and learn the craft 795 00:35:01,104 --> 00:35:03,940 {\an8}because that was the only way that there'd be longevity. 796 00:35:04,024 --> 00:35:06,067 Songwriting is the hardest thing to do 797 00:35:06,151 --> 00:35:07,652 and the most satisfying. 798 00:35:07,736 --> 00:35:09,279 When you come up with something that you go, 799 00:35:09,362 --> 00:35:11,072 "Oh, yeah, that's it. That's what I was 800 00:35:11,156 --> 00:35:12,449 trying to say." 801 00:35:12,532 --> 00:35:14,659 Because you have to have an idea, 802 00:35:15,202 --> 00:35:17,621 and you have to have thought about something, hopefully. 803 00:35:17,704 --> 00:35:19,497 And the deeper you've thought about it, 804 00:35:19,748 --> 00:35:22,459 probably the better your song is to a certain degree, you know? 805 00:35:23,001 --> 00:35:25,170 {\an8}[Jon] So going and joining someone's band 806 00:35:25,712 --> 00:35:28,507 {\an8}was again, a teachable moment. 807 00:35:28,590 --> 00:35:30,050 A, I didn't know how to do it. 808 00:35:30,133 --> 00:35:32,511 And B, you learn what not to do. 809 00:35:33,011 --> 00:35:37,807 Most importantly, don't not be a visionary. 810 00:35:38,141 --> 00:35:41,061 There was no way that I could live and die 811 00:35:41,603 --> 00:35:43,313 on someone else's decisions, 812 00:35:43,730 --> 00:35:45,232 and The Rest didn't last very long. 813 00:35:45,941 --> 00:35:49,736 He had that real desire to prove himself, 814 00:35:50,070 --> 00:35:51,947 'cause we had to, you know? 815 00:35:52,030 --> 00:35:54,991 {\an8}We weren't from New York or LA or whatever. 816 00:35:55,367 --> 00:35:58,078 {\an8}He just had that energy, that edge. 817 00:35:58,453 --> 00:36:00,956 He's gonna make it work. He'll find a way. 818 00:36:01,081 --> 00:36:03,583 I like our audiences to come to see us 819 00:36:04,209 --> 00:36:06,419 and to sweat as much as I sweat on the stage. 820 00:36:06,503 --> 00:36:08,755 You know? Or if I can get them to sweat half as much as I do, 821 00:36:08,839 --> 00:36:10,257 I know I've had a successful show. 822 00:36:10,340 --> 00:36:13,844 To me, your heart is, is 80% of the whole thing. 823 00:36:14,219 --> 00:36:15,887 Thank you. Thank you very much. 824 00:36:15,971 --> 00:36:17,472 Good evening, welcome down to The Fast Lane. 825 00:36:17,556 --> 00:36:19,432 We'll be here tomorrow night and every Wednesday night. 826 00:36:19,516 --> 00:36:21,810 Come on down, free admission. Drinks are a buck. 827 00:36:21,893 --> 00:36:23,812 -Come down this weekend. -[audience cheering] 828 00:36:23,895 --> 00:36:25,564 You know, there's two different kind of front men. 829 00:36:25,647 --> 00:36:27,232 There's the guys that stand there and just go, 830 00:36:27,315 --> 00:36:28,441 "Here's our next song. 831 00:36:29,442 --> 00:36:31,278 Here's our next song. Thank you." 832 00:36:31,361 --> 00:36:32,696 And there are the guys like him that go, 833 00:36:32,863 --> 00:36:34,281 "Tip your bartenders. How you doing tonight? 834 00:36:34,531 --> 00:36:36,199 "We're gonna get this together. Put your hands together. 835 00:36:36,283 --> 00:36:38,201 We're gonna be there. We're all together. Hands up, clap." 836 00:36:38,285 --> 00:36:40,495 Which was, uh, more of the Jersey school 837 00:36:40,704 --> 00:36:42,664 like, you know, a banter between you and the audience, 838 00:36:42,747 --> 00:36:44,291 and then make the whole thing one. 839 00:36:45,083 --> 00:36:48,753 [Jon] From '79, '80, I'm playing down in Asbury a lot, 840 00:36:48,837 --> 00:36:50,463 starting with The Expressway 841 00:36:50,547 --> 00:36:52,174 into being the singer of The Rest 842 00:36:52,257 --> 00:36:53,842 to now having my own band. 843 00:36:53,925 --> 00:36:55,510 Writing on my own, 844 00:36:55,594 --> 00:36:58,013 Jon Bongiovi and the Wild Ones is born. 845 00:36:58,722 --> 00:37:00,265 It's not easy 'cause there's no money. 846 00:37:00,348 --> 00:37:01,558 There's not even opportunity 847 00:37:01,641 --> 00:37:03,268 when you're playing original stuff. 848 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,645 You know, you're writing about cars and girls. 849 00:37:05,729 --> 00:37:06,980 What else was there? 850 00:37:07,063 --> 00:37:09,232 Those of you have, um, seen us before, 851 00:37:09,316 --> 00:37:11,484 I'm very anxious to get down to the new stuff. 852 00:37:11,568 --> 00:37:13,653 -[crowd cheering] -This is something new. 853 00:37:13,737 --> 00:37:16,489 This is by the Wild Ones. This is for the wild ones. 854 00:37:16,573 --> 00:37:18,408 -[audience member] Yeah! -[Jon] This one's named after the band. 855 00:37:18,491 --> 00:37:20,327 And this one's called The Wild One. 856 00:37:20,410 --> 00:37:22,287 -[audience member 2] Yeah! -[Jon] And this has gotta be for you. 857 00:37:22,370 --> 00:37:24,873 [♪ upbeat rock music playing] 858 00:37:26,291 --> 00:37:27,876 [David] And at that time, that's when 859 00:37:27,959 --> 00:37:29,127 I was a Wild One 860 00:37:29,211 --> 00:37:31,004 and, um, I graduated high school and 861 00:37:31,171 --> 00:37:32,464 then I was going to Rutgers. 862 00:37:32,547 --> 00:37:34,090 So once again, I found myself 863 00:37:34,174 --> 00:37:35,759 having to go to school again. 864 00:37:37,802 --> 00:37:39,721 [Jon] David was going to college. 865 00:37:39,804 --> 00:37:42,807 His nice Jewish mother wanted him to be a doctor. 866 00:37:43,266 --> 00:37:45,936 There was no plan B in my life ever. 867 00:37:46,603 --> 00:37:47,979 It was all or nothing. 868 00:37:48,063 --> 00:37:51,358 -Thank you, thank you. -[crowd cheering] 869 00:37:52,859 --> 00:37:57,405 In September of 1980, I call a second cousin of mine 870 00:37:57,489 --> 00:37:58,949 {\an8}who was a recording engineer, 871 00:37:59,032 --> 00:38:00,367 {\an8}produced the first Talking Heads record, 872 00:38:00,450 --> 00:38:03,370 {\an8}the first Ramones record, who had seen The Rest perform. 873 00:38:03,453 --> 00:38:06,206 Had told my dad, "The band stinks, 874 00:38:06,289 --> 00:38:08,166 but the kid's got something going for him." 875 00:38:08,250 --> 00:38:09,459 Never met the guy, 876 00:38:09,543 --> 00:38:11,962 but obviously curious about my future. 877 00:38:12,045 --> 00:38:14,923 He allowed me to be a gopher at the Power Station. 878 00:38:15,006 --> 00:38:17,175 I would go run to the bank, the dry cleaner, 879 00:38:17,259 --> 00:38:21,137 the food pickup, the OTB, make the horse bets. 880 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,099 Anyone and everyone would've given their right arm 881 00:38:24,683 --> 00:38:26,142 {\an8}to work at the Power Station. 882 00:38:26,768 --> 00:38:28,228 {\an8}And so sometimes you had to bring girls, 883 00:38:28,311 --> 00:38:29,646 sometimes you had to bring drugs, 884 00:38:29,771 --> 00:38:30,772 sometimes you had to do favors, 885 00:38:30,897 --> 00:38:31,982 sometimes you had to do stuff. 886 00:38:32,566 --> 00:38:33,692 And I met Obie there. 887 00:38:34,317 --> 00:38:37,362 He was quite the character, to say the least. [laughing] 888 00:38:37,904 --> 00:38:40,490 {\an8}I was working at the Power Station. 889 00:38:40,574 --> 00:38:44,619 I was doing projects for Jon's cousin, Tony Bongiovi. 890 00:38:45,370 --> 00:38:47,289 [Jon] They gave me the opportunity 891 00:38:47,372 --> 00:38:50,083 to-to record on weekends and nights. 892 00:38:50,166 --> 00:38:52,294 [David] So we would go in at, like, 4:00 in the morning 893 00:38:52,377 --> 00:38:55,797 till 10:00 in the morning and start doing original songs. 894 00:38:55,881 --> 00:38:57,924 He played songs for me that he was working on. 895 00:38:58,717 --> 00:39:01,219 And he was so energetic about it. 896 00:39:01,928 --> 00:39:04,306 You know, there are people sometimes when they walk in the room, 897 00:39:04,389 --> 00:39:05,807 you go, [snaps fingers] "That's somebody." 898 00:39:06,516 --> 00:39:11,104 [Jon] The Power Station was the epicenter of record making. 899 00:39:11,646 --> 00:39:15,317 I watched through the window the Rolling Stones. 900 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,361 I saw Queen and Bowie doing Under Pressure. 901 00:39:18,778 --> 00:39:22,365 To see Kiss, to see Diana Ross. 902 00:39:22,782 --> 00:39:25,368 You know, Stevie Tyler would let me sit in the studio 903 00:39:25,452 --> 00:39:27,078 one night, 3:00, 4:00 in the morning 904 00:39:27,162 --> 00:39:29,080 and I was the only guy in there watching him singing. 905 00:39:29,164 --> 00:39:30,540 And that's one of your idols, you know, 906 00:39:30,624 --> 00:39:32,167 watching Aerosmith working on a record. 907 00:39:32,250 --> 00:39:35,712 He just wasn't the cleanup guy. He asked questions. 908 00:39:35,879 --> 00:39:37,923 He saw how a console worked. 909 00:39:38,006 --> 00:39:39,549 He saw how the engineers worked. 910 00:39:39,633 --> 00:39:42,260 He saw how producers worked. He took it all in. 911 00:39:42,552 --> 00:39:44,513 And when he was done working at the studio all day, 912 00:39:44,596 --> 00:39:47,432 he was writing, sleeping, you know, on the floor. 913 00:39:47,516 --> 00:39:49,601 [Jon] I had a, I don't know 914 00:39:49,684 --> 00:39:51,728 if I had a vision or I was just 915 00:39:51,811 --> 00:39:54,064 more faithful than everyone else, 916 00:39:54,147 --> 00:39:55,857 but that really played into it. 917 00:39:56,650 --> 00:39:59,152 We're going there, I'm doing this. 918 00:40:00,820 --> 00:40:01,821 Who wants to come? 919 00:40:04,407 --> 00:40:08,119 [♪ piano playing] 920 00:40:12,874 --> 00:40:17,295 [Jon vocalizing] 921 00:40:27,180 --> 00:40:29,558 [humidifier humming] 922 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,644 So the purpose of doing that, 923 00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:35,105 so your tongue doesn't get tight 924 00:40:35,730 --> 00:40:38,859 and then it restricts everything else 925 00:40:38,942 --> 00:40:40,443 that covers the larynx. 926 00:40:41,278 --> 00:40:42,988 It's like if you ran a marathon, 927 00:40:43,071 --> 00:40:45,824 would you... walk it off 928 00:40:45,907 --> 00:40:49,160 or would you lay down and go to bed? 929 00:40:49,244 --> 00:40:50,704 The answer is you'd walk it off. 930 00:40:51,204 --> 00:40:53,623 So if you just take 10 or 15 minutes, 931 00:40:53,707 --> 00:40:56,334 do some cool-down exercises like that, 932 00:40:57,210 --> 00:41:00,088 it makes tomorrow morning a pleasant experience. 933 00:41:02,883 --> 00:41:05,635 [♪ soft music playing] 934 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,680 So everybody feels physically tired, right? 935 00:41:08,763 --> 00:41:10,849 -[band member] Yeah, yeah. -[laughter] 936 00:41:10,932 --> 00:41:12,309 -[band member] Yeah. -[band member 2] Yes. 937 00:41:12,726 --> 00:41:13,810 It's okay, man. 938 00:41:14,561 --> 00:41:16,855 You are not alone, my brother. 939 00:41:16,938 --> 00:41:19,482 -[Jon] Okay. -I think this is gonna take us a minute... 940 00:41:20,567 --> 00:41:22,402 -[Jon] Gotta check. -...to get back into this. 941 00:41:22,485 --> 00:41:25,488 -[band member] Oh, yeah. -You were standing this whole time. 942 00:41:25,572 --> 00:41:27,866 -Did you sleep last night? -[Jon] Like a motherfucker. 943 00:41:27,949 --> 00:41:29,534 I think it's a hunt. I think the hunt 944 00:41:29,618 --> 00:41:31,953 of getting alright is draining. 945 00:41:32,996 --> 00:41:34,372 [band member] Day one. 946 00:41:34,456 --> 00:41:35,749 It's also stress. 947 00:41:35,832 --> 00:41:37,751 [Jon] You know me, I wanna sing. 948 00:41:37,834 --> 00:41:40,504 I wanna sing. I wanna sing. I just wanna make sure... 949 00:41:40,962 --> 00:41:43,548 -[band member] That everybody's tight. -Yes. 950 00:41:43,632 --> 00:41:45,675 If I'm gonna be tired, I want to just know that, 951 00:41:45,759 --> 00:41:47,969 you know, I'm not pushing myself that hard. 952 00:41:48,053 --> 00:41:50,430 [♪ soft music continues] 953 00:42:01,233 --> 00:42:04,110 [Jon] Well, in as much as you're aware 954 00:42:04,194 --> 00:42:09,407 that it is what you have been defined by for so long. 955 00:42:10,116 --> 00:42:11,618 But I'm not gonna get any bigger. 956 00:42:12,494 --> 00:42:17,123 So for me, now it's just maintaining it at a level 957 00:42:17,207 --> 00:42:20,418 that I'm A, having joy, 958 00:42:20,835 --> 00:42:23,129 and B, I'm good at. 959 00:42:24,381 --> 00:42:28,760 But holy fuck have I worked, I've never worked so hard. 960 00:42:29,761 --> 00:42:32,305 You know, you realize how easily it came to you... 961 00:42:33,849 --> 00:42:35,517 and then it changes as you get older. 962 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,602 You gotta work so much harder. 963 00:42:38,895 --> 00:42:41,481 It's not definitive that I'm gonna do a 40th. 964 00:42:42,274 --> 00:42:43,275 [coughs] 965 00:42:43,859 --> 00:42:47,153 It's all a byproduct of for what? 966 00:42:50,115 --> 00:42:52,617 So this is day 13 of rehearsals, 967 00:42:52,701 --> 00:42:54,452 the last day... 968 00:42:55,745 --> 00:42:56,955 of rehearsing. 969 00:42:58,582 --> 00:42:59,708 It's been great. 970 00:43:01,167 --> 00:43:04,963 We've never rehearsed 13 days for any tour, ever. 971 00:43:05,046 --> 00:43:06,089 [laughs] 972 00:43:08,925 --> 00:43:12,345 [♪ electric guitar playing softly] 973 00:43:12,679 --> 00:43:14,097 One observation. 974 00:43:15,182 --> 00:43:18,518 This show was absolutely sitting at about 2:40. 975 00:43:20,437 --> 00:43:21,605 We could cut down. 976 00:43:22,439 --> 00:43:25,400 I could cut down a easy 20 minutes 977 00:43:25,525 --> 00:43:28,195 and still give them way more than they ever thought. 978 00:43:28,278 --> 00:43:29,571 [band member] That's too long, right? 979 00:43:29,654 --> 00:43:31,239 [Jon] It doesn't have to be that right now. 980 00:43:31,323 --> 00:43:32,699 It can be, but it doesn't have to be. 981 00:43:33,116 --> 00:43:34,492 It's been a number of years 982 00:43:34,576 --> 00:43:37,037 since I was doing those three-kind-of-hour shows. 983 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,248 It takes a lot of physical and vocal strength. 984 00:43:40,582 --> 00:43:42,584 We certainly have the catalog of music. 985 00:43:43,126 --> 00:43:45,420 My aspiration is to get back to that. 986 00:43:45,504 --> 00:43:48,882 [Jon laughing] 987 00:43:48,965 --> 00:43:50,425 [David] I mean, I just turned 60, 988 00:43:50,509 --> 00:43:51,635 Jon and I just turned 60 989 00:43:51,718 --> 00:43:53,178 so we're definitely not young, 990 00:43:53,261 --> 00:43:54,971 but I feel like I'm 18. 991 00:43:55,055 --> 00:43:57,265 You know, it's like eternal. And then you look on stage 992 00:43:57,349 --> 00:43:59,184 and we all know we have each other's backs. 993 00:43:59,267 --> 00:44:01,728 -We're together. We're a unit. -Good. 994 00:44:01,811 --> 00:44:03,688 [David] You know, you're not up there alone. 995 00:44:04,606 --> 00:44:06,608 [Jon] One other crazy observation, 996 00:44:06,983 --> 00:44:11,446 we could end the set with Prayer 997 00:44:11,821 --> 00:44:15,033 and have Medicine be just more raucous 998 00:44:15,116 --> 00:44:17,327 at the very end of the night. 999 00:44:17,410 --> 00:44:18,954 -You know? Um... -[David] I'll switch 'em. 1000 00:44:24,251 --> 00:44:25,252 [Jon imitates explosion] 1001 00:44:26,044 --> 00:44:27,170 [Jon] It was that, to me was where 1002 00:44:27,254 --> 00:44:29,256 I thought there might have been a lull, 1003 00:44:29,422 --> 00:44:30,799 but they're both so easy to sing. 1004 00:44:32,342 --> 00:44:35,637 And then, the potential of doing This House, Prayer, 1005 00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:37,264 and then Love's the Only Rule, Medicine, 1006 00:44:37,347 --> 00:44:39,516 then they're like, show-stopping, fun, upbeat, 1007 00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:40,851 bit of a boom, boom, you know? 1008 00:44:42,477 --> 00:44:44,062 Okay, let's warm up a bit. 1009 00:44:47,065 --> 00:44:49,025 [David] That first week, we started working songs 1010 00:44:49,109 --> 00:44:50,902 and working songs, and everything was tired 1011 00:44:51,528 --> 00:44:53,697 'cause it was... Jon was going through his challenges 1012 00:44:53,780 --> 00:44:56,741 and he had to figure it out for himself. 1013 00:44:57,367 --> 00:44:59,703 Second week is a little less exhausting. 1014 00:45:00,412 --> 00:45:02,747 Third week was like, "Okay, I'm good." 1015 00:45:02,831 --> 00:45:04,040 [♪ uplifting music playing] 1016 00:45:04,416 --> 00:45:08,670 [Jon] I don't need adulation. That's not what fuels me. 1017 00:45:08,837 --> 00:45:11,381 It's changed with time, you know, 1018 00:45:11,464 --> 00:45:13,091 and a better understanding of who you are, 1019 00:45:13,175 --> 00:45:15,510 why you did things, and why you continue to do things, 1020 00:45:15,594 --> 00:45:18,388 when you get to a level that is much deeper 1021 00:45:18,471 --> 00:45:20,015 than girls and guitars. 1022 00:45:21,433 --> 00:45:23,226 [David] You know, we're still standing. 1023 00:45:23,310 --> 00:45:25,478 We're one of the biggest bands in the world. It keeps happening. 1024 00:45:25,562 --> 00:45:27,856 And I'm fortunate because that's a blessing to me, 1025 00:45:27,939 --> 00:45:30,442 is that you get to keep doing what you love to do 1026 00:45:30,525 --> 00:45:34,279 and you don't have to either fizzle out or retire. 1027 00:45:35,071 --> 00:45:36,573 It's really so joyful 1028 00:45:36,656 --> 00:45:38,742 to do what you're made to do and love. 1029 00:45:40,827 --> 00:45:45,207 [Jon] Forty years doing anything is reason to pause 1030 00:45:45,290 --> 00:45:48,418 and to acknowledge and to celebrate, 1031 00:45:48,835 --> 00:45:52,631 to look around at those who helped you along the way. 1032 00:45:52,714 --> 00:45:54,674 And there are hundreds of them 1033 00:45:55,509 --> 00:45:57,969 that all helped tell this story today. 1034 00:45:58,595 --> 00:46:01,223 You know, I'm just the ringleader in that circus. 1035 00:46:03,850 --> 00:46:06,061 [♪ uplifting music crescendo] 1036 00:46:08,063 --> 00:46:09,523 Rock and roll has not been 1037 00:46:09,606 --> 00:46:11,608 a parent's favorite thing since Elvis, 1038 00:46:11,691 --> 00:46:13,818 but, uh, remind your parents that they were kids 1039 00:46:13,902 --> 00:46:16,071 when Elvis and The Beatles were, uh, big, 1040 00:46:16,154 --> 00:46:17,864 you know, current stars. 1041 00:46:17,948 --> 00:46:20,367 When you guys all grow up and your kids look at you 1042 00:46:20,450 --> 00:46:22,702 and they go, "Who was that Bon Jovi band? 1043 00:46:22,786 --> 00:46:24,704 You know, those old guys with long hair?" 1044 00:46:24,913 --> 00:46:27,541 -We can all have a laugh over this... -[crowd cheering] 1045 00:46:27,624 --> 00:46:30,126 ...and, you know, they have to, they have to understand 1046 00:46:30,210 --> 00:46:31,753 that, that rock and roll is, 1047 00:46:31,837 --> 00:46:34,047 is our way of, uh, of letting out 1048 00:46:34,130 --> 00:46:36,675 a lot of excess energy, you know? 1049 00:46:38,385 --> 00:46:41,721 As a kid, I was taking the New Jersey Transit bus 1050 00:46:41,805 --> 00:46:42,973 into New York City. 1051 00:46:43,223 --> 00:46:44,224 And I was observant. 1052 00:46:44,599 --> 00:46:47,227 There was a lot of kids workin' the street. 1053 00:46:47,310 --> 00:46:49,771 You know, New York was pretty rough and tumble back then, 1054 00:46:49,855 --> 00:46:52,023 and there was a lot of street walkers. 1055 00:46:53,191 --> 00:46:55,861 So, Runaway was an observation. 1056 00:46:56,403 --> 00:46:59,072 That was just one of, you know, a bunch of songs I had written 1057 00:46:59,155 --> 00:47:00,657 or co-written at that time. 1058 00:47:01,408 --> 00:47:03,326 {\an8}And I didn't have a band. 1059 00:47:03,410 --> 00:47:06,580 We had done, uh, Runaway in the studio with, uh... 1060 00:47:06,663 --> 00:47:08,039 [sings] ♪ Da, da, da, da, da, da, da ♪ 1061 00:47:08,123 --> 00:47:09,583 You know, I came up with that. 1062 00:47:10,375 --> 00:47:12,836 Jon went back in and, and recorded it. 1063 00:47:12,919 --> 00:47:15,463 [Jon] I recorded it at the Power Station 1064 00:47:15,547 --> 00:47:18,049 with a bunch of cats, as we call them. 1065 00:47:18,133 --> 00:47:20,802 [Bruce] The first demo I got of Jon's was a good song. 1066 00:47:20,886 --> 00:47:25,223 I mean, Jon's great talent is these big, powerful, 1067 00:47:25,307 --> 00:47:28,935 pop rock choruses that just demand to be sung 1068 00:47:29,019 --> 00:47:31,271 by, you know, 20,000 people in an arena. 1069 00:47:31,646 --> 00:47:33,648 [David] And then took that and shopped that around 1070 00:47:33,732 --> 00:47:34,816 to the record companies. 1071 00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:36,193 It was Jon, it wasn't... 1072 00:47:36,276 --> 00:47:37,819 there wasn't a band, it just was him. 1073 00:47:37,903 --> 00:47:39,905 [♪ "Runaway" by Bon Jovi playing] 1074 00:47:39,988 --> 00:47:41,865 [Jon] Sent Runaway out to anyone and everyone. 1075 00:47:41,948 --> 00:47:45,327 To managers, labels, production companies. 1076 00:47:45,744 --> 00:47:47,787 I-I think it was 11 record companies then, 1077 00:47:47,871 --> 00:47:49,247 and everybody said no. 1078 00:47:51,416 --> 00:47:53,418 [Jon] Nobody returns a phone call. 1079 00:47:53,501 --> 00:47:56,213 Nobody answers a letter. Nothing. 1080 00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,300 So it was just this kid knocking on doors with no luck. 1081 00:48:00,383 --> 00:48:01,968 I finally said, "Listen, I've gotta see 1082 00:48:02,052 --> 00:48:04,221 "if I'm way off the mark here 1083 00:48:04,304 --> 00:48:06,765 and should consider another, you know, form of work." 1084 00:48:06,848 --> 00:48:09,267 And at that time, my frustration, 1085 00:48:09,643 --> 00:48:12,395 a light bulb moment happened, and I said, 1086 00:48:12,479 --> 00:48:15,607 "Who's the loneliest man in the music business?" 1087 00:48:15,690 --> 00:48:16,983 [announcer] [on radio] Rock 104. 1088 00:48:17,067 --> 00:48:18,235 [Jon] The DJ. 1089 00:48:18,318 --> 00:48:20,737 Because he's probably in a dark room 1090 00:48:21,321 --> 00:48:25,325 talking into a microphone, preaching the gospel of music, 1091 00:48:25,408 --> 00:48:27,827 telling you to listen to this band and this song. 1092 00:48:27,911 --> 00:48:31,623 And there was a new radio station in New York City. 1093 00:48:31,706 --> 00:48:32,874 [announcer] [on radio] WAPP. 1094 00:48:32,958 --> 00:48:34,709 [Jon] WAPP. 1095 00:48:34,793 --> 00:48:39,005 [announcer] WAPP is the Apple's, New York's newest FM. 1096 00:48:39,089 --> 00:48:40,632 Rock on the summer. 1097 00:48:40,882 --> 00:48:42,133 [Jon] It was so new 1098 00:48:42,217 --> 00:48:43,635 they didn't have a receptionist. 1099 00:48:45,053 --> 00:48:46,513 And fortunately for me, 1100 00:48:46,596 --> 00:48:48,723 a young guy by the name of John Lastman 1101 00:48:48,807 --> 00:48:51,977 and a guy named Chip Hobart, who was the DJ on the air. 1102 00:48:52,060 --> 00:48:54,479 [Chip Hobart] [on radio] This is Chip Hobart at 4 o'clock. 1103 00:48:54,563 --> 00:48:55,814 [Jon] He says, "Well, you're in luck, 1104 00:48:56,314 --> 00:48:58,358 "because we want to do a homegrown record 1105 00:48:58,441 --> 00:49:00,360 of local talent." 1106 00:49:00,443 --> 00:49:02,195 {\an8}I played him Runaway, and he said, 1107 00:49:02,279 --> 00:49:03,530 {\an8}"That's a hit song." 1108 00:49:03,613 --> 00:49:05,448 {\an8}And I said, "I know!" 1109 00:49:05,532 --> 00:49:08,910 {\an8}[David] And of course APP is gonna promote themselves. 1110 00:49:08,994 --> 00:49:12,289 So they started playing hometown heroes from New York. 1111 00:49:12,372 --> 00:49:13,707 [♪ intense music playing] 1112 00:49:14,165 --> 00:49:15,917 [Jon] But the miracle of miracles happened. 1113 00:49:16,001 --> 00:49:17,752 Doubleday, the book publisher, 1114 00:49:17,836 --> 00:49:21,715 they owned eight radio stations in some big markets. 1115 00:49:22,382 --> 00:49:23,592 They started playing Runaway 1116 00:49:23,675 --> 00:49:25,302 on all eight stations. 1117 00:49:25,385 --> 00:49:26,887 [changing radio channels] 1118 00:49:26,970 --> 00:49:28,763 [David] And all of a sudden, from getting turned down 1119 00:49:28,847 --> 00:49:30,098 by every record company, 1120 00:49:30,182 --> 00:49:32,851 we were the most requested song 1121 00:49:32,934 --> 00:49:34,269 'cause everybody's calling up, 1122 00:49:34,352 --> 00:49:35,979 "Who's this Bon Jo... What is this? What is this? 1123 00:49:36,062 --> 00:49:37,814 We want to hear this, we want to hear this." 1124 00:49:37,939 --> 00:49:39,649 [Jon] So now all those same record guys 1125 00:49:39,733 --> 00:49:41,776 that had that cassette on their desk 1126 00:49:42,194 --> 00:49:43,403 went looking for it. 1127 00:49:43,945 --> 00:49:45,238 And lo and behold... 1128 00:49:46,114 --> 00:49:47,282 it was me. 1129 00:49:47,782 --> 00:49:49,367 ♪ On the street where you live ♪ 1130 00:49:49,451 --> 00:49:51,620 ♪ Girls talk about their social lives ♪ 1131 00:49:51,703 --> 00:49:55,040 So, they'd come and see what was ultimately, 1132 00:49:55,123 --> 00:49:56,541 you know, the band. 1133 00:49:58,877 --> 00:50:01,546 {\an8}I had the band together for what was meant to be three weeks 1134 00:50:01,630 --> 00:50:03,256 {\an8}of let me promote this 1135 00:50:03,340 --> 00:50:05,926 {\an8}so I can make $100, $200 a night, now 1136 00:50:06,009 --> 00:50:07,135 {\an8}as an original band. 1137 00:50:07,219 --> 00:50:08,428 ♪ Living in another world ♪ 1138 00:50:08,512 --> 00:50:10,722 ♪ Trying to get your message through ♪ 1139 00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:13,975 It was meant to be three weeks, 1140 00:50:14,059 --> 00:50:15,393 not 40 years. 1141 00:50:15,644 --> 00:50:17,604 Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to greet some gentlemen 1142 00:50:17,687 --> 00:50:18,772 who are from New Jersey. 1143 00:50:18,855 --> 00:50:20,065 Their tours I'm sure will take them 1144 00:50:20,148 --> 00:50:21,316 all over the world 1145 00:50:21,399 --> 00:50:23,818 before this year is up, please greet Bon Jovi. 1146 00:50:23,902 --> 00:50:25,904 [crowd cheering] 1147 00:50:25,987 --> 00:50:29,574 ♪ Ooh, she's a little runaway ♪ 1148 00:50:31,493 --> 00:50:33,578 ♪ Daddy's girl learned fast ♪ 1149 00:50:33,662 --> 00:50:35,622 ♪ All those things she couldn't say ♪ 1150 00:50:37,958 --> 00:50:42,254 ♪ Ooh, she's a little runaway ♪ 1151 00:50:42,337 --> 00:50:45,757 [Jon] I'd asked Dave who was still going to school... 1152 00:50:45,841 --> 00:50:47,342 And I says, "Well, here's what I want to do. 1153 00:50:47,425 --> 00:50:48,552 "You know, I wanna get the band together 1154 00:50:48,635 --> 00:50:49,928 and this is gonna be like the band." 1155 00:50:50,011 --> 00:50:52,389 And he says, "Okay." He quit school. 1156 00:50:52,806 --> 00:50:54,724 [David] I said, "Listen, I love pre-med, 1157 00:50:54,808 --> 00:50:57,060 but I'll give this, like, a year." 1158 00:50:57,561 --> 00:50:59,855 It looks like it's way more fun than being a doctor. 1159 00:51:00,689 --> 00:51:03,567 [Jon] I asked Alec John Such who sang his ass off 1160 00:51:03,650 --> 00:51:06,570 and was in a cover band that was making $3,000 a night. 1161 00:51:06,653 --> 00:51:08,822 I had seen Alec play in Phantom's Opera, 1162 00:51:08,905 --> 00:51:11,157 which was a huge club band in Germany. 1163 00:51:11,241 --> 00:51:13,410 Told Dave about him and he agreed. 1164 00:51:13,493 --> 00:51:17,122 Alec was a great bass player, really cool-looking dude. 1165 00:51:17,205 --> 00:51:18,748 He had, he had the shit on his chin, 1166 00:51:18,832 --> 00:51:21,793 smoked these little brown menthol cigarettes, 1167 00:51:21,877 --> 00:51:24,254 and you just looked at Al and you go, "That motherfucking guy's cool." 1168 00:51:24,921 --> 00:51:26,339 [Jon] I asked Tico Torres, 1169 00:51:26,423 --> 00:51:28,216 who was in a band called Frankie and The Knockouts 1170 00:51:28,300 --> 00:51:29,885 who had a record deal. 1171 00:51:29,968 --> 00:51:31,928 He was married, he had a house, he was on the road. 1172 00:51:32,304 --> 00:51:33,597 [Tico Torres] I did own a house. 1173 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,349 {\an8}And, uh, eventually, i-it destroyed that marriage. 1174 00:51:36,433 --> 00:51:38,643 {\an8}But I don't think I should have been married at that time anyway. 1175 00:51:38,727 --> 00:51:40,228 ♪ She's a little runaway ♪ 1176 00:51:40,312 --> 00:51:42,022 [Jon] I used to go see him play. 1177 00:51:42,105 --> 00:51:45,400 I was in awe of Tico Torres as a drummer. 1178 00:51:45,483 --> 00:51:48,904 [Tico] I initially met Jon, the first time I heard from him was Alec. 1179 00:51:48,987 --> 00:51:51,239 And I knew him since I was 15. 1180 00:51:51,323 --> 00:51:53,575 I lost my virginity at his house for God's sake. 1181 00:51:53,658 --> 00:51:56,244 {\an8}I remember I'd seen Tico, like, two days before and he said... 1182 00:51:56,328 --> 00:51:58,538 {\an8}[in gruff voice] "Yeah, we'll jam together." You know? 1183 00:51:58,622 --> 00:52:00,790 [normal] And so, he... Jon said, Jon said, 1184 00:52:00,874 --> 00:52:02,500 "You know, get him down." 1185 00:52:02,584 --> 00:52:04,419 I called him, I said, "Tico, remember you said 1186 00:52:04,502 --> 00:52:06,213 we're gonna jam together? We're gonna." 1187 00:52:06,296 --> 00:52:07,672 [Tico] John came over and 1188 00:52:07,756 --> 00:52:09,424 played me his tape of Runaway 1189 00:52:09,508 --> 00:52:11,176 and we had a little jam session. 1190 00:52:11,676 --> 00:52:13,053 I said, "This kid's a star." 1191 00:52:13,136 --> 00:52:14,971 I mean, he had an aura about him. 1192 00:52:15,055 --> 00:52:17,390 I saw him and I says, "Look at this guy go." 1193 00:52:17,474 --> 00:52:19,726 And I'm looking like this, I'm playing the drums, going, 1194 00:52:19,809 --> 00:52:21,937 "This kid's got something," you know, the chicks loved his butt. 1195 00:52:22,020 --> 00:52:24,105 I says, "Alright, I'm gonna hang with this." 1196 00:52:24,189 --> 00:52:25,357 [all laughing] 1197 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,067 He was the best drummer I ever saw 1198 00:52:27,150 --> 00:52:28,276 or played with in my life. 1199 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:29,444 And still is. 1200 00:52:29,528 --> 00:52:30,695 I was looking at him like, 1201 00:52:30,779 --> 00:52:32,572 "He's the baddest motherfucker in the land." 1202 00:52:32,656 --> 00:52:34,115 We're allowed to curse, aren't we? 1203 00:52:34,407 --> 00:52:35,909 [Dick Clark] Let me jump in the middle. 1204 00:52:35,992 --> 00:52:37,536 You guys gather around like a football huddle. 1205 00:52:37,619 --> 00:52:39,162 How did you meet Richie to begin with? 1206 00:52:39,246 --> 00:52:40,997 Richie was in the audience one night at a show 1207 00:52:41,081 --> 00:52:42,791 -while the other four of us were playing. -Yeah. 1208 00:52:42,874 --> 00:52:43,917 And he came up to me and says, 1209 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,585 "I want to be your lead guitar player." 1210 00:52:45,669 --> 00:52:47,879 -What, are you crazy? -Uh, no. 1211 00:52:47,963 --> 00:52:49,798 This is now how to ingratiate yourself to people 1212 00:52:49,881 --> 00:52:51,466 and say, "I'm gonna be the lead guitarist." 1213 00:52:51,550 --> 00:52:52,717 Dick, it worked. 1214 00:52:52,801 --> 00:52:54,386 -[laughter] -Right. 1215 00:52:54,803 --> 00:52:56,346 [Jon] Alec, who was also 1216 00:52:56,429 --> 00:52:58,849 in an original band with Richie, said, 1217 00:52:58,932 --> 00:53:00,267 "You gotta see this guy. 1218 00:53:00,350 --> 00:53:01,726 There's something about this guy." 1219 00:53:01,810 --> 00:53:03,395 [Richie Sambora] Alec had called me up and said, 1220 00:53:03,478 --> 00:53:04,938 "I'm playing with this new band, you know, 1221 00:53:05,021 --> 00:53:06,314 "Jon Bongiovi and the Wild Ones. 1222 00:53:06,398 --> 00:53:07,440 Come down and see the band." 1223 00:53:07,524 --> 00:53:08,567 So I said, "Yeah, sure." 1224 00:53:08,650 --> 00:53:11,278 And after hearing him play 1225 00:53:11,361 --> 00:53:13,405 and talking a bit, you know, 1226 00:53:13,488 --> 00:53:15,323 we found we were really on the same track, you know? 1227 00:53:15,407 --> 00:53:17,576 [interviewer] And the rest, as they say, is history. 1228 00:53:17,659 --> 00:53:19,077 -The rest is history. -[Tico] He walked in and says, 1229 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:20,537 "I'm your new guitar player." 1230 00:53:20,620 --> 00:53:21,955 That's what I did. I was very cocky. 1231 00:53:22,038 --> 00:53:24,541 [♪ "Get Ready" by Bon Jovi playing] 1232 00:53:27,002 --> 00:53:28,295 {\an8}[Jon] We immediately hit it off. 1233 00:53:28,378 --> 00:53:30,463 I knew that this guy was incredibly talented. 1234 00:53:30,881 --> 00:53:33,466 He could play, he could sing, he could write, 1235 00:53:33,550 --> 00:53:36,052 and I thought he would be an incredible complement. 1236 00:53:37,262 --> 00:53:38,930 [Tico] There was a combination of, 1237 00:53:39,014 --> 00:53:42,017 it was all of us playing together that clicked. 1238 00:53:42,100 --> 00:53:45,103 But Jon and Richie, their vocal styles together 1239 00:53:45,187 --> 00:53:46,605 made its own style. 1240 00:53:47,022 --> 00:53:48,356 You know, you could say, there's-there's 1241 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:49,524 Simon and Garfunkel, 1242 00:53:49,608 --> 00:53:51,860 there's, uh, Lennon, McCartney, 1243 00:53:51,943 --> 00:53:53,486 certain voices just go together. 1244 00:53:53,570 --> 00:53:54,821 And that had a magic to it. 1245 00:53:55,155 --> 00:53:57,657 ♪ You need someone to make it last ♪ 1246 00:53:57,824 --> 00:53:59,910 [Obie] The energy of the band, 1247 00:54:00,493 --> 00:54:01,870 undeniable, 1248 00:54:02,287 --> 00:54:04,206 like a freight train coming at you. 1249 00:54:04,539 --> 00:54:09,336 But Jon and Richie singing together, magic. 1250 00:54:10,045 --> 00:54:12,672 [Jon] The song Runaway that really started it all. 1251 00:54:12,756 --> 00:54:13,882 It triggered the whole thing. 1252 00:54:13,965 --> 00:54:15,592 But that was basically because 1253 00:54:15,675 --> 00:54:17,636 of, of that hometown record. 1254 00:54:18,011 --> 00:54:20,722 {\an8}We would've won that national contest. 1255 00:54:20,805 --> 00:54:22,682 But I pulled out because fortunately by then 1256 00:54:22,766 --> 00:54:24,434 I had so much interest from 1257 00:54:24,518 --> 00:54:25,769 a couple of labels 1258 00:54:25,852 --> 00:54:27,103 that we didn't need it. 1259 00:54:27,521 --> 00:54:29,272 {\an8}[David] And we signed with PolyGram, 1260 00:54:29,356 --> 00:54:30,774 {\an8}thank God he had the vision. 1261 00:54:30,857 --> 00:54:32,275 And I just was like, I said, 1262 00:54:32,359 --> 00:54:33,360 "You charge the hill, 1263 00:54:33,443 --> 00:54:34,569 I'm behind you charging with you." 1264 00:54:34,653 --> 00:54:36,404 [Jon] I had laid down months 1265 00:54:36,488 --> 00:54:38,156 into years of groundwork, 1266 00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:40,158 you know, trying to get that major label 1267 00:54:40,242 --> 00:54:41,451 and making the contact. 1268 00:54:41,535 --> 00:54:43,411 When it broke nationally, 1269 00:54:43,495 --> 00:54:45,539 it was by a guy named Jon Bongiovi. 1270 00:54:45,622 --> 00:54:47,332 There was no band, there was no manager, 1271 00:54:47,415 --> 00:54:49,084 {\an8}there wasn't anything at the time. 1272 00:54:49,167 --> 00:54:50,794 Now, if somebody ran up to you in a bar and said, 1273 00:54:50,877 --> 00:54:51,962 "What's your name," you'd say? 1274 00:54:52,045 --> 00:54:53,088 Jon Bon Jovi. 1275 00:54:53,171 --> 00:54:54,714 It was someone at the record company 1276 00:54:55,173 --> 00:55:00,011 who had suggested in the way that Van Halen, 1277 00:55:00,345 --> 00:55:03,265 Bon Jovi, two words, could work. 1278 00:55:03,348 --> 00:55:04,683 {\an8}[David] Van Halen had Jump, 1279 00:55:04,766 --> 00:55:07,185 {\an8}the first time a guitar band had a keyboard song. 1280 00:55:07,269 --> 00:55:09,396 Number one song and they broke up, 1281 00:55:09,479 --> 00:55:11,314 which is not what you do. 1282 00:55:11,398 --> 00:55:13,775 That left a big hole in the world 1283 00:55:13,859 --> 00:55:16,027 for, like, here we had a keyboard song, 1284 00:55:16,111 --> 00:55:17,737 we had a great-looking front man 1285 00:55:17,821 --> 00:55:20,115 who could sing his ass off and entertain. 1286 00:55:20,198 --> 00:55:22,617 We had the guitar-slinging guy who could do it. 1287 00:55:24,077 --> 00:55:26,079 {\an8}There was like a little bit of a hole there. 1288 00:55:26,162 --> 00:55:27,497 And then we just came right in. 1289 00:55:27,581 --> 00:55:31,334 -Show 'em! -Look, it's my favorite band! 1290 00:55:31,418 --> 00:55:34,254 [all cheering] 1291 00:55:34,337 --> 00:55:36,840 -Oh, nice work. -Cute kid, huh? 1292 00:55:36,923 --> 00:55:38,049 [band member] Look at that. 1293 00:55:38,133 --> 00:55:39,134 [excited chatter] 1294 00:55:39,926 --> 00:55:41,720 [Jon] Where's the video? 1295 00:55:42,179 --> 00:55:43,889 And so we made that first record... 1296 00:55:46,057 --> 00:55:47,309 and the adventure began. 1297 00:55:48,435 --> 00:55:50,979 [foot tapping] 1298 00:55:51,062 --> 00:55:54,482 [♪ electric guitar playing] 1299 00:56:01,990 --> 00:56:03,825 [camera assistant] Richie Sambora IV, take one. 1300 00:56:03,909 --> 00:56:07,954 [♪ electric guitar playing] 1301 00:56:09,748 --> 00:56:10,999 [interviewer] I'm excited for this. 1302 00:56:11,082 --> 00:56:13,126 I'm... Hey, I'm excited. 1303 00:56:13,627 --> 00:56:15,504 Are we telling the truth or are we gonna lie? 1304 00:56:15,587 --> 00:56:17,881 What are we gonna do? Let's-let's-let's figure it out. 1305 00:56:17,964 --> 00:56:20,634 ♪ She's a little runaway ♪ 1306 00:56:20,717 --> 00:56:23,512 [♪ "Runaway" by Bon Jovi resumes playing] 1307 00:56:26,806 --> 00:56:30,352 ♪♪ 1308 00:56:51,915 --> 00:56:55,919 ♪ No one heard a single word you said ♪ 1309 00:56:57,671 --> 00:57:00,507 ♪ They should have seen it in your eyes ♪ 1310 00:57:00,924 --> 00:57:03,510 ♪ What was going around your head ♪ 1311 00:57:05,303 --> 00:57:09,391 ♪ Ooh, she's a little runaway ♪ 1312 00:57:10,725 --> 00:57:12,853 ♪ Daddy's girl learned fast ♪ 1313 00:57:12,936 --> 00:57:15,063 ♪ All those things she couldn't say ♪ 1314 00:57:17,816 --> 00:57:22,028 ♪ Ooh, she's a little runaway ♪ 1315 00:57:23,154 --> 00:57:25,156 ♪ Daddy's girl learned fast ♪ 1316 00:57:25,448 --> 00:57:27,492 ♪ Now she works the night away ♪ 1317 00:57:29,077 --> 00:57:31,288 [♪ song fades out] 1318 00:57:31,371 --> 00:57:33,915 [♪ soft music playing] 1319 00:57:59,649 --> 00:58:02,861 [♪ soft music continues] 1320 00:58:30,514 --> 00:58:33,934 [♪ soft music continues] 1321 00:58:55,247 --> 00:58:55,754 [♪ music fades out] 109339

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