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I went into a religious resistance 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,160 and I commanded it to leave in the name of Jesus Christ. 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:08,960 She was clairvoyant... 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 6 00:00:09,040 --> 00:00:10,920 When you challenge the demonic, 7 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,760 It waits till you are the most vulnerable. 8 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:15,800 Together, they documented 9 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:17,400 the most famous haunting cases 10 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:18,520 ever recorded. 11 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,680 The cases that Ed and Lorraine Warren worked on 12 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:22,040 were groundbreaking. 13 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,000 Now, for the first time, 14 00:00:24,080 --> 00:00:26,000 never before released recordings... 15 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,760 ..document how this unassuming couple devoted their lives 16 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,000 to saving others from the demonic... 17 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,680 In the name of Jesus Christ, I command you to leave. 18 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,440 ..and proving to the world that the devil exists. 19 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,320 They thought there is evil in the world, 20 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:43,440 we need to fight it. 21 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,240 You can't imagine what has taken place in this home. 22 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,720 They are the pioneers of the paranormal, 23 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,920 Ed and Lorraine Warren. 24 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,400 In 2013, the film, 'The Conjuring' 25 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,120 shocked the entertainment industry 26 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,560 by earning more than $300 million at the box office 27 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,160 and spawning a blockbuster movie franchise. 28 00:01:08,960 --> 00:01:10,240 The film and its sequels 29 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:11,880 are based on real life hauntings 30 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:14,000 investigated by famed demonologists, 31 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:15,840 Ed and Lorraine Warren. 32 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,600 Their pioneering investigations are something 33 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,080 their daughter Judy can attest to. 34 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:22,920 Dad, Mum, they opened the way for people 35 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,760 of all these paranormal groups to start, 36 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,840 and most of them will say it. 37 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:32,360 "If it wasn't for your parents, I wouldn't be doing this today." 38 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,000 During their extraordinary 50 year career, 39 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,160 the Warrens investigated thousands of reports 40 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,280 involving poltergeists, demons, and devils. 41 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,240 But perhaps the most documented case of evil 42 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:49,160 is one that took place in Ed Warren's hometown. 43 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,480 On Sunday, November 24, 1974, 44 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,160 Ed and Lorraine Warren 45 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,240 receive a desperate call from their friend, 46 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,680 psychic, Mary Pascarella. 47 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,120 Mary Pascarella was Director 48 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:07,680 of the Psychic Research Institute 49 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,320 in Hamden, Connecticut. 50 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,240 She was a personal friend of ours and she said, 51 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,200 "Ed, you have got to meet me at this house." 52 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,320 By the early 1970s, 53 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,080 Lorraine, a clairvoyant, and Ed, a demonologist, 54 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,280 have been investigating the paranormal 55 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,280 for over 20 years, 56 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,520 but to most people, the idea of investigating haunted houses 57 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,080 is a new phenomenon. 58 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,240 Mary Pascarella said, 59 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,520 "We have a real poltergeist case going on." 60 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:37,840 "There's police cars," 61 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:40,960 "people are starting to form outside the house." 62 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,720 And that's when Ed said, "Oh, OK." 63 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,480 "Well, this sounds like the real deal. We'll be right over." 64 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,280 The Warrens, along with Father William Charbonneau, 65 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,240 arrive at the home of Jerry and Laura Goodin. 66 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,160 I went in the house and here were police officers, 67 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,240 firemen, the Goodin family, 68 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,480 neighbours, and it looked like 69 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:03,880 somebody went through the house 70 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,720 with a baseball bat, 71 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,360 smashed things off of the walls, knocked furniture over. 72 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,960 Every one of these police officers, 73 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,200 when myself and the priest walked in, 74 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,920 they know and asked for the priest's blessing. 75 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,040 They were frightened. 76 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,200 As part of his investigative technique, 77 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,600 Ed Warren tapes interviews with witnesses. 78 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,400 In these rare recordings, 79 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:32,440 we hear Ed speaking with the first police officers called to the scene. 80 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,800 After talking with the officers, 81 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,920 Ed knows he must experience the poltergeist himself 82 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,800 to be certain it's real. 83 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,200 Ed was really good at trying to rule out 84 00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:32,680 the logical physical causes and explanations. 85 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,480 He would take a second look. 86 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,840 He would not just take people's word for it. 87 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,840 I was standing in the kitchen. 88 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,200 I noticed that there was a movement from my peripheral vision. 89 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:46,560 A set of Melmac dishes flew across the room 90 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,120 and landed on the floor. 91 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:54,160 A crucifix which was on a wall was made of plastic, just burst. 92 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,760 After confirming the existence of a poltergeist, 93 00:04:59,840 --> 00:05:03,360 the Warrens gather more information to help the Goodin family. 94 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,360 In this unearthed recording, Ed interviews the homeowners, 95 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,000 Jerry and Laura, about when the hauntings began. 96 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,120 The Goodins tell the Warrens 97 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,840 that the previous evening something attacked them. 98 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,360 Jerry was bringing in the groceries, 99 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,520 Laura's in the kitchen, 100 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,840 and this table picks itself up, throwing groceries everywhere... 101 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,000 ..and then these dishes come up and go flying. 102 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:43,520 The knives came out of the knife holder 103 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,400 and were flown around the room. 104 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:47,560 They didn't know what to do. 105 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,040 The Goodins admit being confused, 106 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,640 but not overly concerned. 107 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,400 So they straightened up the kitchen, 108 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,080 hoping it's just an isolated experience. 109 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,760 But it's not. 110 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,400 Jerry's ready to go back in and say, 111 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,680 "Laura, you're not gonna believe this." 112 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,640 Meanwhile, she's coming out 113 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,640 because other things are happening. 114 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,720 They have these three heavy recliner chairs 115 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,960 and they're opening and closing by themselves, 116 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,600 all three of them in concert. 117 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:33,720 It was horrifying. 118 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,480 That's when the Goodins say they reached out 119 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,760 to their neighbour for help, 120 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:40,960 off-duty police officer John Holsworth. 121 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,840 Several minutes later, patrol officers arrive on scene. 122 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,880 When they witness the unexplained, 123 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,520 the officers contact the Fire Department. 124 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,560 Firemen, they don't know what to do 125 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,360 because they start witnessing things 126 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,680 and they saw the TVs moving, 127 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,280 they saw the chairs going in and out. 128 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,880 It was pretty clear to them 129 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,080 that this was not a job for the Fire Department. 130 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,720 As the public statement went, 131 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,720 "We're not very good at fighting devils." 132 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,640 City engineers are also baffled by what is happening. 133 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,960 Outside, news of the strange happenings 134 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:04,880 on Lindley street attract huge crowds. 135 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,200 Just a few months before the film, 'The Exorcist' 136 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,640 shocked audiences with its dramatic depictions 137 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,480 of the devil and the power of evil. 138 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,160 So, when news reports surfaced of an actual poltergeist case, 139 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,000 what was once thought to be fiction 140 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,560 suddenly seems frighteningly real. 141 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,880 Naturally, the media got word of it, 142 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,160 and then it goes out on the AP wire, 143 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,240 and now it's being reported around the country 144 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,400 and it even goes outside the country. 145 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,840 My friends had known about the Bridgeport case 146 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,640 because it was the news all over town. 147 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,760 So they said, "Let's go down and see what's going on." 148 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,760 And here's this massive crowd of people. 149 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,240 I went to school with a policeman that was there 150 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,720 and he looked at me and he said, "Judy, this is real." 151 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,360 "This is real, what happened." 152 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,760 Convinced they are dealing with a true poltergeist case, 153 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,320 Ed asks Father Charbonneau to perform a house blessing. 154 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,120 The religious ritual goes forward without a hitch 155 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,480 until they move to the basement. 156 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,000 Suddenly, as quickly as it appeared, 157 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,040 the black mass vanishes. 158 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,560 Meanwhile, upstairs, 159 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,400 Father Charbonneau seminary assistant, 160 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,280 21-year-old, Paul Eno, 161 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,240 sees Lorraine coming under attack. 162 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,280 Lorraine and I were sitting at the table. 163 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,040 All of a sudden, Lorraine kind of let out a little yelp 164 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,600 and a blister formed right on her hand. 165 00:10:06,680 --> 00:10:09,560 Coming up, previously unreleased recordings 166 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,720 of the investigation that made the Warrens famous. 167 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:19,840 The extraordinary happenings 168 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,320 began on Friday. 169 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,000 Some furniture began to move 170 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:24,840 and then a crucifix fell off the wall. 171 00:10:26,560 --> 00:10:29,600 Ed and Lorraine Warren had never investigated a case 172 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:31,560 with so many eyewitnesses before, 173 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:32,920 and by Sunday night, 174 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,000 news of the Bridgeport poltergeist 175 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,680 spreads far beyond the city limits. 176 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,400 We had observed 177 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,200 the movement of objects 178 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,760 refrigerator, bureaus. 179 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,680 No one could have possibly moved this thing. 180 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,640 The moment Lorraine crosses the threshold, 181 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,680 she feels the house acknowledge her presence. 182 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,840 Then it begins to wage war. 183 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,000 Ed became quite concerned that the energy could especially 184 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,320 affect her being sensitive to these things. 185 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,560 And he was worried about something much bigger. 186 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,760 Ed and Father Charbonneau take Lorraine home for the night, 187 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,040 but leave Paul Eno behind to keep watch over the family, 188 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,360 especially the Goodins' ten-year-old, Marcia. 189 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,720 Ed told me to keep an eye on her, to stay with her, 190 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,920 to make sure she wasn't doing any of these things 191 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,040 because there was a natural assumption 192 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,640 that the child who seemed to be the centre of the phenomena 193 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,280 would be the one perpetrating it. 194 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:35,960 The next evening, 195 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,560 while playing a board game with Marcia, 196 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,400 Paul senses something wrong. 197 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,120 All of a sudden I felt a surge of energy. 198 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,000 There was like an ozone smell. 199 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:48,640 I looked into the kitchen. 200 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,600 The air had turn like this gauzy, whitish colour. 201 00:11:52,680 --> 00:11:55,560 I picked up a Orthodox prayer book 202 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,000 and I started reading an Akathist or hymn 203 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,480 to the glory of Christ. 204 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,560 According to Paul, 205 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:07,440 that's when the gauzy mist forms into four separate shapes. 206 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,800 Just instinctively, I pushed against it. 207 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,200 It pushed back. 208 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,320 It was a solid structure, almost the skeletons of birds. 209 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:18,720 That's what it felt like. 210 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,200 There was a bone structure there. 211 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,400 When the entity was standing in front of me, 212 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,520 I got angry and I was also fearful 213 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,320 because I knew it was after the little girl. 214 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,000 I wanted to protect her. 215 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,400 The energy was so strong at that point, 216 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,360 I decided to pull everybody out of the house 217 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,120 because I didn't know what would happen. 218 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,200 It felt like the place was gonna explode. 219 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,800 Convinced they are dealing with something demonic, 220 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,480 the Warrens make plans to perform an exorcism. 221 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:00,960 Marcy hugged me, said, 222 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,920 "Promise, promise me you'll come back." 223 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,640 And I did. 224 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,440 Mrs Goodin hugged me and said, 225 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,480 "Promise us you'll come back." 226 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,040 The following morning, Police Superintendent Joseph Walsh 227 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:17,760 declares the haunting a hoax perpetrated by Marcia Goodin. 228 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,760 The exorcism would never take place. 229 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,760 The girl admitted that since last Friday, 230 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,440 she's been banging on walls, knocking pictures off. 231 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,600 We have no ghost in Bridgeport. 232 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:44,800 Chief Walsh made it his business 233 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,720 to make sure that he was going to call that a hoax. 234 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,240 It's impossible that this was a hoax. 235 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,640 Apparently, right after we had left, 236 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,400 Superintendent Walsh had sent officers into the house. 237 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,200 Said, "This ends here now." 238 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:04,080 He not only made fools out of the family and us, 239 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,960 he made fools out of his own men. 240 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,120 These police officers were going into the media, 241 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,000 which were all around the house, in the house, 242 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,080 telling them about the things that they experienced. 243 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,720 Ed was very frustrated by it all. 244 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,240 He thought with all of these police officers, 245 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,880 all of these firefighters, all of these media people, 246 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,600 that the truth finally would come out about poltergeist activity. 247 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,200 Two months later, 248 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,160 vindication comes when the police department 249 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:35,720 allows a parapsychology group 250 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,200 to tape record interviews with the police officers. 251 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,560 Today, those tapes, most never before shared with the public, 252 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,800 offer a unique insight into what many describe 253 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,920 as the Roswell of haunted houses. 254 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:18,880 Something happened. 255 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,640 You can argue if you want, whether it's a poltergeist, 256 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,200 whether a poltergeist is a demon, but something happened 257 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,720 and nobody really could explain what happened. 258 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:30,160 That case stands out in my mind 259 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:31,880 and the annals of psychic research 260 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,640 as one of the most powerful, most credible cases 261 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,320 of poltergeist activity ever recorded. 262 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:38,800 And it was recorded. 263 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,720 Despite a widespread belief 264 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,800 that something paranormal had occurred, 265 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,280 the Bridgeport incident fails to convince a sceptical public 266 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,960 that demons do exist. 267 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,600 Their mission in life was to let people know 268 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,720 that the devil existed, that he was real. 269 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,280 Understanding the paranormal 270 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,400 is something Ed's been obsessed with since he was a young boy, 271 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,360 growing up in Bridgeport, Connecticut. 272 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,720 I lived in a haunted house when I was a boy. 273 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,040 Many times I would hear the closet door opening up. 274 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,800 I'd look into that closet darkness, 275 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,760 I start to see a light starting to form, 276 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,920 and I went into like a ball shape 277 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,560 and then I'd see face in that ball. 278 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,480 It was a face of an old lady. 279 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,200 Next thing, the ball came out into my bedroom. 280 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,520 The room became icy cold and I could hear footsteps. 281 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,040 I could hear heavy breathing. 282 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:41,720 I'm saying to myself, 283 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,520 there's a logical reason for all of this. 284 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,240 He went to his father one day 285 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,600 and he says, "Weird things happen in this house." 286 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,520 "I see shadows. This old lady." 287 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,000 His father looked at Ed and said, 288 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,320 "Ed, there's a logical reason 289 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,960 for everything that happens in this house." 290 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:00,440 Then Ed laughed when he told me. 291 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,400 He says, "My father never gave me a logical reason." 292 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,920 "He just said there's a logical reason. Then he dropped it." 293 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,120 Like Ed, Lorraine is a child when she first discovers 294 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,280 the supernatural and her clairvoyant abilities. 295 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,920 It started when I was probably about nine years old, 296 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,880 when I first had experiences 297 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,520 where I could see lights around people, 298 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,600 but the lights that I could see around people, 299 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,480 I thought everybody could see that. 300 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,840 When Lorraine was nine years old, 301 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,160 she went to an all girls Catholic school, 302 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,720 very prestigious. 303 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:42,000 And there's two nuns overseeing everybody outside the classroom, 304 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,120 Mother Superior and Sister Joseph. 305 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,760 Lorraine says, "Hey, look, Sister Joseph's lights, look." 306 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,960 "Her lights are brighter than Mother Superior's lights." 307 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:57,120 What she was seeing was the aura around Mother Superior 308 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,480 and around Sister Joseph. 309 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:04,080 Anything that's alive that god has created has an aura 310 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,680 and a certain psychic can see the aura, 311 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,800 and when she said, "Her lights are brighter", 312 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,880 she meant the aura was more spectacular, 313 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,720 more colours emanating from around her body. 314 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,440 Mother Superior overhears this conversation about the lights 315 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,440 between the two girls, she walks over to Lorraine. 316 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,120 She says, "Lorraine, we don't speak of things like that here." 317 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,320 You couldn't share things like that with the nuns. 318 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,560 That was very much frowned upon, and if I tried at home, 319 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,720 it was fine as long as I could joke and light-hearted, 320 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,320 but it was never anything to be discussed seriously. 321 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,840 And Lorraine related to me later, 322 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:50,160 she said it many times, "I never wanted to be different." 323 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,120 "In fact, I never even told my parents." 324 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,200 Lorraine's life changes when, as a teenager, 325 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:02,480 she meets Ed at the local movie theatre where he worked. 326 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,880 I was an usher in a small theatre called The Colonial. 327 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,840 She used to come with her mother every Wednesday night. 328 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,240 We started talking and became friends 329 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,880 and I was 16 at the time, she was 16. 330 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,200 One night, I walked her home, asked her for a date. 331 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:20,680 That's how it started. 332 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,760 Ed was always impeccably dressed. 333 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,800 He used to have tightly-creased pants, nice hair. 334 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,000 This is what Lorraine said. She goes, 335 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,640 "They introduced me to Ed and I smiled because I said," 336 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,040 "'Boy, what a nice looking young man that is.'" 337 00:19:38,120 --> 00:19:41,440 And then she says, "He smelled like Noxzema." 338 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,160 She swore he was a lifeguard in the daytime 339 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,880 and he used to get red. 340 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,960 He would put this Noxzema cream all over his face and body 341 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,360 to cool down his body. 342 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,840 That's what she remembered, the first encounter. 343 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,360 Then I went to the Navy the day I was 17 344 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,080 and while I was in the Navy, we wrote back and forth. 345 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,840 Most of our courtship, we were kids 346 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,920 and it was through mail 347 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,280 because Ed had entered the service soon after we met. 348 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,000 While serving in the Navy during World War II, 349 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,400 a life threatening experience proved to Ed once and for all 350 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,920 that there was a greater spiritual dimension to life. 351 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,080 Coast Guard cutters and fireboats battle flames 352 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,560 in one of the worst shipping disasters of the war. 353 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,960 While serving in the US Navy during World War II, 354 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,360 a fiery collision with an oil tanker 355 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,600 forces Ed Warren and some 100 other sailors 356 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,960 to fight for their lives in the icy Atlantic. 357 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,600 He goes into the water 358 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,080 and sees one of his sailor buddies in trouble. 359 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,120 This guy named Salazar. 360 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,800 Ed swims over to Salazar, puts his arm around him, 361 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,240 and starts to pull him away. 362 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,080 And Ed says, "I'm pulling the guy away." 363 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,360 "But I don't know where I'm going. All I see is a wall of flame." 364 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,840 I said a prayer to the blessed mother. 365 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,800 That gasoline opened up and went around us. 366 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,240 Then a Coast Guard picket boat comes through the flames 367 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,280 and pulls us out of the water. 368 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:15,760 Is that miraculous? Is that an angel? 369 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,920 I was a survivor, a lot of guys were killed that day 370 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,560 and I came home on survivor's leave. 371 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,680 I had a 30 day leave. 372 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,000 Ed came home. 373 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,320 He said, "Lorraine, let's get married." 374 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,760 He only had a few hours to do it and get back, but he did it. 375 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,800 He married Lorraine in May 22, 1945. 376 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,920 She was 18 and he was going on 19. 377 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,960 We got married in Bridgeport, 378 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,720 had a great big honeymoon. 379 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,000 One night, took a train to New Haven, 380 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,160 stayed at the Taft Hotel, 381 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,480 and came back in the morning, left for the Navy again. 382 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,960 And we were married while he was still in service 383 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,880 and our daughter was born while he was still on active duty. 384 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,880 So, when he came home from the service, 385 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,720 I was at that time maybe about 20, 21 years old. 386 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,240 After the war and supports his family 387 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,800 as an artist, selling paintings of homes and landscapes 388 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,000 to tourists visiting New England. 389 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,640 He was selling the paintings for three dollars and five dollars. 390 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,400 Back then, it was a pretty good haul. 391 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,680 If he sold five or six paintings in a day, he did pretty well. 392 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,360 But then they were always interested in haunted places. 393 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,280 "Remember, back then," he goes, 394 00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:34,200 "Lorraine and I used to stay at a cabin up in Vermont" 395 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,000 "for a dollar a day." 396 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,200 "We used to buy a hot dog for ten cents." 397 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,520 He says, "And I used to fill the car up, 18 cents a gallon." 398 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,000 He said, "So, if I had $25 in my pocket, I was rich." 399 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,760 That's how they supported themselves for a long time. 400 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,120 He would sell these paintings 401 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,800 and go into these tourist spots and just sitting there 402 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,160 and talking to people, explaining how he did the painting 403 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,320 and why he did it. 404 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,400 'Cause he'd find haunted houses to paint too. 405 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,960 While traveling through New England, 406 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,040 Ed and Lorraine visit the Ocean-Born Mary House, 407 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:06,840 a legendary haunted residence 408 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,800 located in Henniker, New Hampshire. 409 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,840 Curious, Ed talks with the homeowner, Louis Roy, 410 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,440 about his experiences with the house. 411 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,760 While he's interviewing Mr Roy, 412 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,240 Lorraine is - she's over the back of the chair like this, 413 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,880 listening to Ed very, very diligently. 414 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,080 All of a sudden Ed asks Lorraine a question like, 415 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,080 "Isn't that right, Lorraine?" No answer. 416 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,440 He looks back and Lorraine is staring like this 417 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:30,680 in a trance-like state. 418 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,560 Ed starts getting really nervous. 419 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,440 He's like, "Mr Roy, what's wrong? My wife there. What's happening?" 420 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,520 Mr Roy very calmly says, 421 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,040 "That happens to a lot of clairvoyants in the house." 422 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,320 Lorraine leaves her body and looks down 423 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,760 and she can see Ed talking to Mr Roy and she said, 424 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,760 "That was the first time I knew not to fear death." 425 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,080 But all of a sudden, she snapped back into her body 426 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,400 like somebody jolted her back into her body. 427 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,520 Lorraine's clairvoyance 428 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,240 inspires Ed to seek out other haunted houses. 429 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,240 Ed would read about these places. 430 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,800 Then he'd go up and find the location 431 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,280 and he'd paint the house. 432 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,160 I'd do a real nice sketch of the house, 433 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,320 ghosts coming out of it and everything, you know, 434 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,880 and give it to Lorraine and she'd go knock on the door 435 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,160 and with her Irish personality, 436 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,760 she'd say, "Oh, my husband loves to sketch and paint haunted houses," 437 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,280 "and he made this for you." 438 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,320 And that would pretty much be their ticket in. 439 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,560 They would get to talk to the homeowners about their ghosts, 440 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,840 and Ed would learn that they've had experiences 441 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,440 that are pretty similar to what he went through as a child. 442 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,240 And from there, an entire career developed. 443 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,720 It progressed from just talking about the ghosts 444 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,720 to people calling them in on cases to come and observe 445 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,760 what's going on in the house or to clear the house. 446 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,080 And they would talk with anybody about cases 447 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,440 and their views of the paranormal. 448 00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,880 That influenced me in the ways 449 00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:02,280 of just understanding that everybody's different. 450 00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:04,040 Everybody has paranormal problems. 451 00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:06,440 Typically, the people who would contact the Warrens 452 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:07,640 would be families. 453 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,400 It doesn't matter, socioeconomic background doesn't matter, 454 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,800 race, ethnicity, people of all ages. 455 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,680 Once the ball gets rolling on something like that, 456 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,720 you know, once you start helping somebody, 457 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,040 you don't stop and say, 458 00:25:22,120 --> 00:25:24,080 "OK, I'm going to leave those there." 459 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,720 They just kept going. They just kept helping. 460 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,640 You know, because there was always somebody else and everything, 461 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,040 and no matter what was happening, 462 00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:35,240 if they could get help for them, they were going to do it. 463 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,320 It's always been my experience 464 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,040 that the one thing we all have in common 465 00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:44,680 is that we are susceptible to negative energy. 466 00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:49,720 It gets to the point between the 1950s into the 1960s, 467 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,520 if you lived, especially in New England, 468 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,000 and you had a weird ghost story in your house, 469 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,920 you would find them and ask them to come to your home 470 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,200 and check it out because no one else was doing it. 471 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,640 For Ed and Lorraine, both devout Roman Catholics, 472 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,320 a belief in the supernatural comes naturally. 473 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,800 Now, I was brought up a Catholic. 474 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,040 My father was a very strict Catholic. 475 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,200 And I can remember one time, Father Tomasco, 476 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,960 he said to my father, "You know, Frank," 477 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,320 "you won't believe what's happening two blocks away from here." 478 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:25,920 "There's a man under possession." 479 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,440 He said, "This guy takes on the appearance of a pig" 480 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,440 "and he makes noises like a pig." 481 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,840 "There's these foul smells." 482 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,520 "So, we are going to perform the rite of exorcism over this man." 483 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,400 Now, I'm only eight years old, but that was the very first time 484 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,200 I ever heard about anything like that. 485 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,760 Our perspective plays a lot into the paranormal phenomena 486 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,400 in general. 487 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,160 What we bring into the situation 488 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,320 is what we're going to get out of it. 489 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,760 The Warrens, they were both Roman Catholic, 490 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,040 so they had that belief system framework on the phenomenon. 491 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,560 By the early 1970s, Ed and Lorraine 492 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,920 have investigated hundreds of hauntings 493 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,960 and are known as the seekers of the supernatural 494 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,400 throughout New England. 495 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,840 But most of the general public views demons and devils 496 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,120 as the stuff of a skewed imagination. 497 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,720 Inspired by their unique childhood experiences, 498 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,920 Ed and Lorraine are on a quest to prove that demons, devils, 499 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,080 and the supernatural exist. 500 00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:32,680 The paranormal changes world views 501 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,240 in a way that nothing else really does. 502 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,680 It's terrifying. 503 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,160 It's that line of not understanding, I think, 504 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,520 that drives everyday ghost hunters 505 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,480 to want to find out what it is, 506 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,440 why they want to gather evidence. 507 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,360 There's that need to not just prove to themselves 508 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,440 that it's real, 509 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:58,080 but to prove to everybody else, this is real, this is happening. 510 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,640 A devout Catholic, 511 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,200 Ed views the paranormal through his religious beliefs 512 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,920 to exorcise any demons, he must invoke the power of the church. 513 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,320 Ed uses audio and video recordings 514 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,240 as proof to convince church leaders to become involved. 515 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,560 More often than not, 516 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,440 it's an uphill battle. 517 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,680 Ed and Lorraine Warren initially started 518 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,800 investigating homes throughout New England 519 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,280 because a lot of paranormal activity seems to reside here. 520 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,800 Ed wanted to find out 521 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,680 have other people lived in haunted houses? 522 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,120 What was it like for them? 523 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,120 And he never stopped looking from age five 524 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,320 until the day he died, looking for more haunted houses, 525 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,080 wanting to talk to people about their experience in those homes. 526 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,520 People would call and say, this is happening, 527 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,280 that is happening, what should we do? 528 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:11,520 At the drop of a hat, 529 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,960 they go if people needed them, never asked for money 530 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,800 because these people were desperate. 531 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,840 There was no one else to call. 532 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:22,880 In 1971, 533 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,800 a young Rhode Island family 534 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,080 suffers a series of threatening hauntings. 535 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,120 They desperately seek help from Ed and Lorraine, 536 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,440 who are known for their paranormal investigations 537 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,240 and doing battle with the demonic. 538 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,560 When I go into a home, I'm not looking for devils. 539 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,000 I'm not looking for ghosts. 540 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,880 What I'm looking for is a natural explanation 541 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,760 as to what's going on. 542 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,600 Only when I find that there is something supernatural, 543 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,480 something paranormal, do I accept it. 544 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,240 Ed Warren was passionate about gathering evidence. 545 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,840 That's what he would say over and over and over again. 546 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,800 "I want to show you the evidence." 547 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,960 "I don't want to just tell you a ghost story." 548 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,240 "I want you to see the ghost, hear the ghost." 549 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,720 "I want you to experience it in some way." 550 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,160 And that's what he was really all about. 551 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,840 Was, "How do I gather that evidence?" 552 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,680 Ed also pioneers the use of technology 553 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,000 and evidence gathering during paranormal investigations. 554 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,080 Paranormal investigation today hasn't really changed all that much 555 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,400 since when Ed and Lorraine were doing it. 556 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,280 We're still using audio recorders, 557 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,400 we're still using video recorders, we're still using EMF meters. 558 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,080 But is the same process. 559 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,200 We are trying to go into an environment 560 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,600 and use gear to say, "Is there something here?" 561 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,200 "Can I measure it? Can I capture it in some way?" 562 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,640 Roger and Carolyn Perron 563 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,840 say the haunting started the day they and their five daughters 564 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,320 moved into this 18th century farmhouse 565 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,360 known today as The Conjuring House. 566 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,560 Andrea Perron's carrying boxes from the truck 567 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,160 and setting it down in the kitchen. 568 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,440 And she sees this man. 569 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,680 That she thought was with the previous owner, 570 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,240 then her sister sees the same man. 571 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,320 Her third sister comes in with another box 572 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,600 and the man just kind of slowly vanishes. 573 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,200 Over time, more and more strange things are happening. 574 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,240 Carolyn Perron, the mother, 575 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,040 she seemed to be the focal point 576 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,720 of a lot of the negative energy. 577 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:35,040 I remember coming here once with the Warrens and Carolyn said, 578 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,800 and this always stuck with me and still does years later, 579 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,280 she went to cut open an orange 580 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,200 and blood spurted out. 581 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,000 Living in a haunted house 582 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,640 is something that's difficult for people to understand. 583 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,320 Everyone in the family almost feels like it's only affecting them. 584 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,880 You get afraid to tell someone else because you think, 585 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:01,240 "Well, they'll think I'm crazy or I don't want to scare anyone." 586 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,200 And so each sister is experiencing different things. 587 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,280 But Carolyn Perron, she's seeing an older woman in the house, 588 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,840 apparitions, objects are moving. 589 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,680 She's afraid. She's afraid for herself. 590 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,840 She's afraid for her family. And so she seeks help. 591 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,640 While Ed interviews the parents about their experiences, 592 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,080 Lorraine attempts to pick up 593 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,720 the presence of paranormal energy or entities, 594 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,080 Lorraine is walking through the house 595 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,760 and seeing what she picks up, 596 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,720 trying not only to connect, but to see where are the hot spots, 597 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,720 where is this entity or entities located specifically? 598 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,640 Lorraine would put her hands out when she would walk into a room, 599 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,880 and you usually knew when she was getting something 600 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,240 because she'd have a certain look on her face. 601 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,640 Sometimes she would even interact with it. 602 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,680 She would ask a question and listen for the response. 603 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,760 In the Perron farmhouse, Lorraine picks up the presence 604 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,680 of what appears to be a female spirit. 605 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,240 Ed depended on Lorraine a lot. 606 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,160 So, if Lorraine says, "I'm not picking anything up", 607 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,720 that was good enough for Ed to say, "Maybe this place isn't haunted." 608 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,920 So, because Lorraine was picking something up in this house, 609 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,680 Ed is now focused, hyper focused. 610 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,040 He's thinking something is going on here. 611 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,440 What it is he doesn't quite know yet 612 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,520 because this is just the very early stages. 613 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,200 This is just the first investigation. 614 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,640 They're gonna have to dive in deeper. 615 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,040 They're gonna have to connect 616 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,400 with whatever is here to try to identify it. 617 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,960 Is it just the spirit of a person that lived here 618 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,040 or died here or is it something more sinister? 619 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,760 Ed and Lorraine suggest holding a seance 620 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,400 to contact who or what is haunting the Perron family? 621 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,760 The seance will allow them to maybe find a name, 622 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,560 maybe find a motive for why some spirit might be stuck here. 623 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,600 Carolyn Perron is for it. She's fine. She just wants answers. 624 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,960 Roger Perron is a little more sceptical, 625 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,920 but he goes along with it anyway. 626 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,240 Two days later, the Warrens, 627 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,960 along with Roger and Carolyn Perron, 628 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,200 gather to perform a seance. 629 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,960 And they're going to hold the seance right here 630 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,320 in this room behind me. 631 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,440 They're sitting around a table. Lorraine is a psychic medium. 632 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,880 She's gonna take some deep breaths, close her eyes, 633 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,600 and she's gonna try to connect 634 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,680 with whatever might be there. 635 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,400 She'll start to ask who's around. 636 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,480 But then suddenly things take a dangerous turn. 637 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,640 Something, some unseen force, overpowers Carolyn, 638 00:34:39,720 --> 00:34:44,520 she is picked up from her chair, thrown across the floor 639 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:45,920 to the ground. 640 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,840 Very, very unexpectedly, 641 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,560 Carolyn began speaking in strange tongues. 642 00:34:52,720 --> 00:34:54,520 She became possessed. 643 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,280 Roger is petrified for his wife. 644 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,200 Something's happening to her 645 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,480 that he's never seen anything like this. 646 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,400 So, he runs to her, but Ed stops him. 647 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,040 Ed believes that she's under demonic attack 648 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,080 and that if Roger intervenes in any way, 649 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,880 he could put himself in danger. 650 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,840 At that point, Roger's furious, and he punches Ed in the face 651 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,920 'cause he's hell bent on helping his wife. 652 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,560 And then Roger kicks Ed and Lorraine Warren out of this house, 653 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,560 and they're not allowed back again. 654 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:29,680 The Warrens learn a difficult lesson. 655 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,360 Even with the best of intentions, 656 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,640 investigating the paranormal can be a dangerous undertaking. 657 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,200 In this case, I do not believe that any exorcism, 658 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,880 any ritual of a religious nature 659 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,600 or anyone could ever clear that home 660 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,120 of the very negative human and inhuman spirits 661 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,760 which are bringing about these destructive acts. 662 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,720 As good as the Warrens might be, 663 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,600 they don't have 100% success rate. 664 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:08,840 Nobody does, and sometimes unintended consequences ensued 665 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,960 when they did a seance or in the course of the investigation. 666 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,880 While The Conjuring case would not be the one 667 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,080 to convince the public demons are real, 668 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,880 years later, the Amityville Horror case 669 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,080 would open the eyes of the world. 670 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,520 Five years after The Conjuring House, 671 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,400 the Warrens find themselves in the middle 672 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,000 of what will become the world's most infamous haunting, 673 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,920 this time in a sleepy village on New York's Long Island. 674 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,120 A lot of people will look at a home 675 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,640 and think the place looks like a haunted house, 676 00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:52,400 but looking at the Amityville home, 677 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,200 you would have never thought that anything was going on there, 678 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,880 any type of paranormal activity. 679 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,960 But you never truly know until you look inside. 680 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,440 The three story Dutch colonial 681 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,400 is where in November 1974, 682 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,840 Ronald DeFeo Jr shoots and kills the six members of his family. 683 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,280 Ronald DeFeo Jr walked into the house 684 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,480 with a rifle in the middle of the night. 685 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,440 First he went to his parents' bedroom 686 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,400 and he shot them both in their beds where they slept. 687 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,520 Then he went down the hall and systematically shot 688 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,560 each of his brothers, each of his sisters. 689 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,400 Then a year later, the new owners, 690 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:34,760 George and Kathy Lutz, 691 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,760 hold a press conference where they announce 692 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,240 that they have abandoned the home 693 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,800 after just 28 days claiming the house to be haunted. 694 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,080 The Choice is Channel 5! 695 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,000 Metromedia New York, 5! 696 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,840 I just happened to be at Channel Five working on a series 697 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,600 on psychic phenomenon and paranormal events, 698 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,040 so of course, we were going to do the story. 699 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:00,600 Now, this was not 700 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:01,960 the Amityville Horror Case 701 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,040 at that time. 702 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,760 This was just another haunted house 703 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,160 and we didn't even realise 704 00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:07,720 that six people had been murdered 705 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:08,800 in that house. 706 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:09,880 So we said, "Sure." 707 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,480 "We'd come down there." And we did. 708 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,480 And that was the beginning of an adventure, 709 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,440 which we'll never forget, a supernatural adventure. 710 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,120 Laura DiDio sets up a meeting 711 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,080 between the Warrens and George Lutz. 712 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,000 George tells Ed and Lorraine about some of the insane stuff 713 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,520 that happened. 714 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,600 Windows would open and close. 715 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,560 They would hear strange sounds, 716 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,200 they would hear voices. 717 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,320 They would see ghost lights over their beds, in the rooms. 718 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,680 The beds are shaking. 719 00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:43,680 They heard screams and they couldn't get to the children. 720 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,360 This house, something dark is going on. 721 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,360 Investigating hauntings are, 722 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,800 you know, you never know what you're going to walk into. 723 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,040 Each one is individualised and people experience things 724 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,240 in their own way, 725 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,000 they have different dynamics in the family, certainly. 726 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,240 You don't know where it's going to lead. 727 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,120 Sometimes it can get a little scary, 728 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,280 sometimes it can get a little dangerous. 729 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,680 George Lutz was an ex-marine, 730 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:08,960 karate expert, 731 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,320 he ran around with motorcycle gangs. 732 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,720 We're talking about a rough, tough guy 733 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,720 who after 28 days in that house, fled, left everything behind, 734 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,440 took his wife and children and went off to California. 735 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,480 After speaking with George Lutz, 736 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,000 Ed and Lorraine inspect the Amityville house. 737 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,040 It would be a visit they would never forget. 738 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,440 The very first night that Ed and I went to that home, 739 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,640 I was fearful, but I didn't know what I was fearful of. 740 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:40,480 I took with me a relic 741 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,800 of a very pious priest, 742 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,040 and I asked many clergy 743 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,160 of different faiths to enter 744 00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:51,680 that home with us in spirit and prayers to protect us. 745 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,200 My mother was more affected by these things, 746 00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,120 but she's very religious and she depended on that, 747 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,800 always, she relied on her religion to get her through. 748 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,680 When the Lutzes said they fled in terror, 749 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,400 they weren't kidding, they left everything there. 750 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,320 It looked like you might have just gone out to go to school, 751 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,640 work, run some errands. 752 00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:21,760 Everything was just the way they left it. 753 00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:27,280 The media asked me to go onto the second floor 754 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,560 to tell them what I felt. 755 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,760 And as I was going up the stairs, 756 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,720 I reached a point where it felt 757 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:41,960 as if a force of water coming against my chest, 758 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,400 almost like a waterfall. 759 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,680 It was the worst feeling. 760 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,880 I stopped on the landing and held tight to the relic 761 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:58,440 that was in my hand and asked for strength and direction 762 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,960 in going forward. It felt ominous to me. 763 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,120 There was something inhuman or very, very negative. 764 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,720 She started to feel ill there, nauseous, 765 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,280 and she could pick up the things that had happened, the murders. 766 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,800 If somebody dies a violent and sudden death, 767 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,600 many of those people, especially kids, 768 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,240 were not prepared to cross over 769 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:31,160 and may be confused and deciding were hanging around. 770 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,200 Lorraine was picking up on all of that 771 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,080 and it was having a physical effect on her. 772 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:45,040 That was not unusual again in the world of the paranormal. 773 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,120 My mother, she would relive things, 774 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,160 she could see these things happening. 775 00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:53,800 And she said herself that was the closest to hell 776 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,880 that she'd ever want to go. 777 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,480 While Lorraine is upstairs, 778 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,520 Ed Warren searches down in the basement, 779 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,880 hoping to provoke any demonic spirits. 780 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,200 I felt as though I was underneath a waterfall. 781 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,920 That's how terrific the pressure was on my head and shoulders, 782 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,400 forcing me down to the floor. 783 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,920 Forced to the ground, Ed fights back 784 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,600 the only way he knows how. 785 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,960 I went into a religious resistance. 786 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,600 and I, again, commanded it to leave the name of Jesus Christ. 787 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,800 It immediately lifted off. 788 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,560 I knew right at that point what we were dealing with. 789 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,360 Ed survives the attack 790 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,000 and is now convinced a demon infests the house. 791 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,560 Two weeks later, he and Lorraine returned to Amityville, 792 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,160 this time to hold a seance. 793 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,880 Joining the Warrens are several other psychics, 794 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,520 paranormal researchers, and members of the media, 795 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,120 including Laura DiDio. 796 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,360 During the seance itself, what came through for Lorraine Warren 797 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,720 was she felt a demonic presence. 798 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,360 Mary Pascarella, one of the other psychics, 799 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,720 she felt there had been a warlock 800 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,680 living right where the house was built in 1928. 801 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,880 She felt that this man 802 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,760 had brought a lot of dark energy with him. 803 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,880 Although the seance is intense, 804 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,880 the group does not make contact with the other side. 805 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,760 But several people report feeling ill. 806 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,520 Our cameraman walked up the stairs, 807 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:49,000 got to the second floor landing where Lorraine had been ill, 808 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,920 and all of a sudden he clutched his chest, 809 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,960 doubled over in pain, 810 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,280 and I could see the colour draining out of his face. 811 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,000 Mary Pascarella, who was the director 812 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,920 of the Psychic Research Institute in Hamden, Connecticut, 813 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,640 never went into a haunted house after that. She gave up the work. 814 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,240 They did not feel so much that there were ghosts 815 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,240 of the murdered DeFeo family, 816 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,760 but they felt that there was a demonic presence there. 817 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,520 And Lorraine said another priest, an exorcist, 818 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,360 is gonna have to come here and cleanse the house. 819 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,640 The Warrens hope an exorcism, 820 00:44:25,720 --> 00:44:27,120 especially one caught on film, 821 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,760 will prove once and for all to the world that demons are real. 822 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,840 But just like in the Bridgeport Poltergeist case, 823 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,480 the exorcism never takes place. 824 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,160 Instead, George and Kathy Lutz 825 00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:43,160 let the bank foreclose on the house 826 00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:46,000 and move their family to California. 827 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,000 The Warrens kept in touch with them 828 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,840 long after they had moved out of New York and to California. 829 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,680 They were very concerned at the impact 830 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,520 of those experiences on the Lutz children. 831 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,680 And they did that with every case. 832 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,680 They didn't go in asking for money. 833 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:08,120 They had a sincere desire to help. 834 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,440 Today, the Amityville house remains a curiosity. 835 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,400 But its succession of owners have not admitted experiencing 836 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,240 any hauntings. 837 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,080 A hundred families could move into an Amityville horror house. 838 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,160 Nothing would happen. 839 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,120 Evil spirits who haunt houses do not like happy homes. 840 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:30,600 So, they leave. 841 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,760 They go where there's a lot of antagonism, 842 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:38,120 a lot of arguments, violence. This is what they thrive on. 843 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:42,800 In 1977, a best selling book by Jay Anson 844 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,960 and subsequent film adaptation turned the Amityville Horror 845 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,720 into the world's most famous paranormal event. 846 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,280 Although not featured in either the book or the movie, 847 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,120 through their connection to the case, 848 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,520 Ed and Lorraine Warren become famous. 849 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,400 They were no longer the "Warrens ghost hunters." 850 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,160 They're "America's ghost hunters," 851 00:46:01,240 --> 00:46:02,640 Lorraine and Ed Warren. 852 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,320 Would you welcome 853 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:06,920 Ed and Lorraine Warren? 854 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,440 The Amityville case made Ed and Lorraine Warren's career explode. 855 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,720 It put them into the national consciousness. 856 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,360 Last year, over one million Ouija boards 857 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:19,920 were sold in America. 858 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,560 I'd like to know what it is that's out there. 859 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,880 'The Exorcist' took it out of the closet, 860 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,520 but now you have real life demonologist, 861 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,160 paranormal investigators, and exorcists 862 00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:32,520 who have a lot of credibility. 863 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,720 The way they worked with the media, 864 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,040 the way that they got the word out, 865 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,280 opened up the doors for a lot of other investigators. 866 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,040 The Warrens find themselves 867 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,240 in high demand for interviews, speaking engagements, 868 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,800 and especially college lecture tours. 869 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,720 I remember attending their lectures. 870 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:51,800 I had never seen a ghost. 871 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,560 I had friends who lived in haunted houses. 872 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,160 But when you saw an Ed and Lorraine Warren lecture, 873 00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:58,560 they played video clips, 874 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,720 they played audio clips, they showed you pictures. 875 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,440 And I remember sitting there thinking, 876 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,200 "Oh, my god, maybe now I have seen a ghost." 877 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:09,320 College kids are drawn into this like a moth to a flame. 878 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,680 But Ed didn't do it just for entertainment purposes. 879 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,200 Ed would say to me, "I'm here to also give a warning" 880 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,080 "not to dabble in occult practices," 881 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,480 "that the devil exists, that the devil is real," 882 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,200 "and don't dabble with Ouija boards." 883 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,680 "Don't go to a psychic reader, don't do any of that stuff." 884 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,400 "You're opening doors." 885 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,880 "And once you open the door up, very difficult," 886 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,160 "if not impossible to close that door." 887 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,640 He holds the unique title of demonologist. 888 00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:37,280 She's a psychic. Would you welcome Ed and Lorraine Warren. 889 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,920 We, we, uh... 890 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,520 We thought it'd be fun to have a couple of demons on the show. 891 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,840 I think we'd better bless them first. 892 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,520 There weren't paranormal ghost hunting shows back then, 893 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:54,960 there were none. 894 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,680 It was just people like Ed and Lorraine 895 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,280 willing to put themselves out there, willing to talk about it, 896 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,360 put themselves up to ridicule, get called hoaxers. 897 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,680 And that broke down a ton of walls. 898 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,440 Once we start talking about something, 899 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,960 then it becomes out in the open. 900 00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:13,320 I don't mind sceptics. That means they're open minded. 901 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,000 But show me a closed minded atheist and I say, 902 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,920 put up your money or shut your mouth 903 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,320 because we can prove that there is through our evidence. 904 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,440 Where haunting phenomena is concerned, 905 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:32,880 we have never really met a true atheist in a haunted home. 906 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,600 I was there. I saw it firsthand. 907 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,480 I know the work that Ed and Lorraine did. 908 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,000 They were willing to take that risk for other people, 909 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,640 for strangers, 910 00:48:41,720 --> 00:48:45,040 and to be the subject of ridicule like that. 911 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,680 It was very difficult for them. 912 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,320 Lorraine attempts to quiet critics 913 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,920 by undergoing scientific testing by parapsychologists at UCLA. 914 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:59,680 The team of scientists led by Dr Thelma Moss put Lorraine 915 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,800 through a battery of tests that indicate 916 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,560 she is what they call a light trance medium. 917 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:10,000 A deep trance medium will have a spirit guide come through 918 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,120 and when that part is over, they wake up 919 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,120 and they might not be aware of what they said or did. 920 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:21,000 Lorraine was always aware in this light trance state. 921 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,360 She's going to another plane. 922 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,120 But is still aware of all of her surroundings. 923 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,880 She was found to be well above average in psychic ability, 924 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,000 which kind of vindicated her in her mind. 925 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,760 Now, she had real test results 926 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,720 that proved that she was not just like making up stories. 927 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,200 In the 1980s, 928 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,960 the Warrens take on a number of controversial cases. 929 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:55,080 One offers yet another chance to prove that the devil exists, 930 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,600 this time in a court of law. 931 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,280 Not guilty of murder by reason of demonic possession. 932 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,520 That's what an attorney 933 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,440 for a 19-year-old Connecticut teenager will try to prove. 934 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,440 "We're going to take the devil to court." 935 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,640 The words of Ed and Lorraine Warren. 936 00:50:13,720 --> 00:50:15,720 We can back up this case history 937 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,720 with numerous other case histories 938 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,520 and prove beyond a shadow of a doubt 939 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,120 that preternatural phenomena was taking place here. 940 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,240 According to prosecutors, 19-year-old, Arne Johnson, 941 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:30,280 stabbed to death his landlord, Alan Bono in a fit of rage. 942 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,320 But Johnson's lawyer claims Arne was possessed by demons at the time, 943 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,480 demons that entered his body 944 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,320 during an exorcism of his fiancee's younger brother. 945 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,600 This 11-year-old boy would become extremely strong. 946 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,320 It would take five men to hold him down. 947 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:54,720 Arne Johnson, who was engaged to this boy's sister, 948 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,000 would help every night to control the boy. 949 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,080 One night he screamed at these devils. 950 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:02,400 "Take me on." 951 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,280 "Leave my little buddy alone." 952 00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,280 When you challenge the demonic, 953 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,880 it doesn't act at that particular time. 954 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:14,160 It waits until you are the most vulnerable, 955 00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:15,960 then it strikes. 956 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,720 We're gonna have to prove to a jury 957 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,640 that there's such a thing as demonic possession. 958 00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:25,960 The Warrens are out to establish in the court of law 959 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,200 that demonic possession is possible. 960 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,840 And if it can be used successfully in a legal defence, 961 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,440 then from Ed Warren's perspective, 962 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,520 we have legal precedent of the existence of demons 963 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,720 and that it can affect a person's actions 964 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,400 and activities. 965 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,480 Johnson's fiancee, Deborah Glatzel, 966 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,080 backs up Arne's story of demonic possession. 967 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,000 What did you see take place? 968 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:47,800 All hell broke loose. 969 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:48,880 What do you mean? 970 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,040 With the growling, 971 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:51,760 when he went under demonic attack. 972 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,560 What about the actual stabbing? Did you see Mr Bono fall? 973 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,840 No, I never saw Mr Bono get stabbed. 974 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,640 In November, nine months after the stabbing of Alan Bono, 975 00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:05,840 the judge in Arne Johnson's case makes his ruling. 976 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,320 The judge listened to precedents, to arguments, 977 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,560 and then he said that demonic possession 978 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,360 is not an acceptable defence. 979 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:13,880 It is irrelevant in this case 980 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:15,840 and unfortunately in the United States, 981 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,360 it is not a science and he will permit no evidence 982 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,640 on demonic possession and devils. 983 00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:24,120 If the judge had let us bring in our evidence 984 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,920 and the priests waiting outside of the courthouse 985 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,800 to testify that what occurred to this young boy, Arne Johnson, 986 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,960 was indeed a diabolical possession. 987 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,320 The judge didn't want to be known as the judge 988 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,000 who allowed "The devil made me do it" case 989 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,080 into his courtroom. 990 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:47,840 Ed and Lorraine's daughter remembers the case well. 991 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,280 I know Debbie Glatzel personally and Arne Johnson. 992 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,600 I believe that the paranormal exists, absolutely. 993 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,080 Absolutely. Yes, I do. 994 00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,400 You can't help but believe it 995 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,760 if you're around it as much as I was. 996 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:07,040 We knew it was inevitable that there was going to be a tragedy, 997 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,640 but never, ever did we think 998 00:53:09,720 --> 00:53:11,240 it would be Arne Johnson. 999 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,840 Although Ed and Lorraine lose their case in court, 1000 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:21,960 their battle with the devil continues. 1001 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,120 Up next, the Warrens do battle 1002 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,960 with one of the most evil demons to infest the Earth, 1003 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,480 the Succubus. 1004 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,920 In January 1986, 1005 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,600 Ed and Lorraine Warren receive a desperate call 1006 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,640 from a married couple in Pennsylvania. 1007 00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:43,840 For years, they and their four children have been plagued 1008 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,040 by a strange series of unexplained events. 1009 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,880 Blood curdling screams, rumblings in the night, 1010 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,640 a mysterious and foul stench in the air. 1011 00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:55,680 Well, a family in West Pittston, Pennsylvania, 1012 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,120 says this is a nightly horror they endure. 1013 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,800 The strange happenings at the home of the Smurl family 1014 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,880 began the day daughter Dawn received her confirmation. 1015 00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,280 My parents see it and sometimes they hear a heartbeat 1016 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,320 in the middle of them when they're sleeping 1017 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:09,920 and the closet doors open. 1018 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,560 And even the family's German shepherd has provided 1019 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,400 little comfort against these allegedly demonic forces. 1020 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,800 After enduring a series of hauntings, 1021 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,920 Jack and Janet Smurl ask for help 1022 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,760 from their local Catholic diocese, but to no avail. 1023 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,600 Cast doubt ye evil demons. 1024 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,520 New York's Cardinal John O'Connor 1025 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,560 revealed that a priest performed exorcisms 1026 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,200 on people who were allegedly possessed by the devil. 1027 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,840 Our guests are Janet and Jack Smurl. 1028 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,080 Who did you bring in to help you? We went to our local priest, 1029 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,680 and said, "Father, there's something very strange going on here." 1030 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,960 So he came over. He blessed the home and said, 1031 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,280 "There's no one here who can help you." 1032 00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:52,360 After the church diocese fails to send help, 1033 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,320 the Smurls contact the Warrens. 1034 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:59,120 I'll never forget I was driving up to West Pittston. 1035 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,120 It's in a coal mining area and they thought, 1036 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,840 well, maybe something was happening underneath 1037 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,560 because of the old mine shafts. 1038 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,560 When phenomena first began to occur in this house, 1039 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,920 They tried everything. They called people. 1040 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,480 They called the church. 1041 00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,160 The priest came out and blessed it. 1042 00:55:19,240 --> 00:55:22,240 But so much more was needed. 1043 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,080 The Smurls are lying in bed one night 1044 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,720 and all of a sudden the bed starts to rattle and shake. 1045 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,440 Then they start seeing black shadows 1046 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,560 moving across the bedroom 1047 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,320 and suddenly something grabs her by the leg and yanks her 1048 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,400 right out of the bed onto the floor. 1049 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,720 Then there's the night when the both of them 1050 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,480 were lying in bed and both of them 1051 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,160 rise up into the air as high as the ceiling. 1052 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:52,720 Several nights later, 1053 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,160 a demonic creature known as a succubus appears. 1054 00:55:56,240 --> 00:56:01,000 A succubus is a name given to a demon or a devil. 1055 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,800 It attacks the male physically and sexually. 1056 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,680 Jack is sitting down in his living room. 1057 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,160 It's about 10:00 at night, just about ready to go to bed. 1058 00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:13,200 And he sees this woman coming down the stairs. 1059 00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,000 Now, from a distance, she looked very beautiful, 1060 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,800 but then as she came closer, the face changed 1061 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,640 and what he'd seen was a skeletal face 1062 00:56:25,720 --> 00:56:28,320 with rotting teeth that attacked him. 1063 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,640 Why would a demon want to attack somebody sexually? 1064 00:56:32,720 --> 00:56:34,600 Did it get pleasure out of it? No, they don't. 1065 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:37,840 To save the Smurl family, 1066 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,200 Ed and Lorraine must do everything in their power 1067 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:41,680 to exorcise the succubus, 1068 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,160 including religious provocation. 1069 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,760 Religious provocation is all about using your belief system, 1070 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,960 your faith in this case, Catholicism, 1071 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,120 to try to vanquish whatever evil might be in the building. 1072 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,520 Ed would bring in holy water. 1073 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,360 He would hold up holy relics like crosses, 1074 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:00,880 and he would tell 1075 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,040 whatever entities were around, "In the name of Jesus, get out." 1076 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,000 He pictured himself a warrior and these were his weapons. 1077 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,720 In the master bedroom, Lorraine senses the presence of evil. 1078 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,760 We sat on the edge of the bed 1079 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,000 and Ed put out these different things he had with him. 1080 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:24,320 I do carry a true piece of the cross, relics of saints. 1081 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,800 Now, there is a television set there. 1082 00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:32,600 The TV, it's not even plugged in and the whole screen lit up. 1083 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,920 And then objects on the double dresser 1084 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,560 moved around like they were dancing. 1085 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,480 I had a police officer with me. 1086 00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,520 We were walking down that hallway 1087 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,520 and I was using religious provocation 1088 00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:52,240 when I felt a pressure, grab me right by the neck. 1089 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:56,320 Suddenly, Ed finds himself under attack. 1090 00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:00,520 This thing threw me back about ten feet onto the bed. 1091 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,360 The police officer, he came in, and he threw holy water 1092 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,040 at this thing finally, lessened up. 1093 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,840 The succubus proves too powerful for Ed and Lorraine 1094 00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,040 to battle by themselves. They need reinforcements. 1095 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,440 But when the Warrens approach the Catholic Church for help, 1096 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,560 they are turned away. 1097 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,920 During the time the Warrens were really at the peak 1098 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,480 of their investigations, they were having a hard time 1099 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,360 because the church was keeping all these things a secret 1100 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,400 about performing these exorcisms. 1101 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,160 So they were shunning the Warrens. 1102 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,920 Nothing made Ed Warren more angry than if you went 1103 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,280 to the local Catholic priest 1104 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,160 and said, "You've got a family in your community in need." 1105 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,800 And if that priest said, "No, no, I don't do that." 1106 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,720 "There's no such thing as ghosts." That infuriated Ed. 1107 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:48,560 So he had no qualms whatsoever about using his fame 1108 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,240 to escalate the situation, to get the media involved. 1109 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,320 What do you want the church to do? 1110 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,480 We would like him to bring in two or three priests 1111 00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,200 who are exorcists to clear this house of what is here. 1112 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,520 Why doesn't the family just move? 1113 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,320 They have left here. They have gone to a camp site. 1114 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:06,920 The same type of phenomena 1115 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,600 that had occurred to them in their home 1116 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,360 also followed them to the camp site. 1117 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,400 None of you would be able to go through 1118 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,280 what the Smurls are going through. 1119 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:21,800 You cannot even imagine what has taken place in this home. 1120 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,480 In your expert opinion, 1121 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,520 how much longer do you feel the family can go on living here? 1122 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,480 By the looks of the family, today, dear, 1123 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,840 I think that they couldn't even go through the rest of this day. 1124 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,280 The press conference works. 1125 00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,720 When the Vatican hears about the case, 1126 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,800 Cardinal Ratzinger, a future pope, intervenes. 1127 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,680 Cardinal Ratzinger assigned an exorcist 1128 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,040 from the Catholic Church who went to the house 1129 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,680 and performed the ritual of exorcism, 1130 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,840 the Ritual Romano in that house, which is very unusual 1131 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,880 because they usually do that only over a person. 1132 00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,840 And to this day, that house has been clear. 1133 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,520 People will say, "Well, why would God allow the devil" 1134 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,200 "to attack a family like this?" 1135 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:09,000 Because God lets this happen every now and then 1136 01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,000 to prove that he is more powerful than any devil. 1137 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,880 Do you, Father Lebar, believe the Smurls? 1138 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,840 Absolutely, 100%. 1139 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,680 What does the church, guess or know, that this is? 1140 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,720 They would call it, as Lorraine mentioned, 1141 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,800 the diabolical infestation. 1142 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,520 This is where diabolical spirits 1143 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,720 are not actually possessing people, 1144 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,560 but rather they're inhabiting the place. 1145 01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:34,680 What happens during an exorcism? 1146 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:35,920 During an exorcism, 1147 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,240 the church calls upon the power of Christ 1148 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,960 to remove the devil from the person or the place. 1149 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:46,000 We're talking about a creature of God who is a fallen angel, 1150 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,760 therefore has powers greater than a human being. 1151 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,240 Would all Catholics believe this? 1152 01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:52,840 All Catholics should believe this. 1153 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,840 The pope would believe this. Absolutely. 1154 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,640 He's spoken on it several times. 1155 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,240 The Warrens prove victorious this time, 1156 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,240 but their war against evil is never over. 1157 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,480 Coming up, Ed and Lorraine investigate a former funeral home 1158 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:11,480 where unspeakable horrors took place in this world 1159 01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,000 and beyond. 1160 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,160 I suspected necrophilia. 1161 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,280 By the mid 1980s, the Warrens had helped 1162 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:24,160 over a thousand families overcome demonic hauntings, 1163 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,520 but perhaps their most trying case involved an attack 1164 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,280 so devious that it left a residue of evil, 1165 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,520 the remains with the family over three decades later. 1166 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,960 Carmen Snedeker desperately needs a place to rent 1167 01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:43,520 in Southington, Connecticut. 1168 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,280 Her son is undergoing cancer treatments 1169 01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,960 at a nearby hospital and the commute from their home in upstate New York 1170 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,520 is wearing both of them down. 1171 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,240 And I drove by this beautiful old colonial 1172 01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,640 and there was a 'for rent' sign out front 1173 01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,440 and I just pulled over. 1174 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:04,680 I fell in love, it was perfect for my family. 1175 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,440 Carmen doesn't realize it, 1176 01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:11,000 but her perfect house is a former funeral home. 1177 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,600 There's no way we're gonna find another place. 1178 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,040 I've already scoured the entire county 1179 01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:20,800 for a place to live that will support four children, 1180 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,040 so we're kind of locked in. 1181 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:24,920 We can't really go anywhere. 1182 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,400 On the day her family moves in, 1183 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,840 Carmen notices something strange. 1184 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:32,360 I went to mop the floor, 1185 01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,760 the mop water turned this thick red. 1186 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,680 Horrified, Carmen calls the housekeeper into the room. 1187 01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:45,040 She leaned down and she smelled it. 1188 01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:46,680 And she got up and walked out the door, 1189 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,400 and I never saw her again. 1190 01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,240 Carmen's son, Philip, is the next family member 1191 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,720 to have a paranormal encounter. 1192 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,880 He said, "Mum, we have to leave this place." 1193 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:57,560 And he was shaking, visibly shaking. 1194 01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:02,400 And he said, "This place is evil, it's evil." 1195 01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,280 And I said, "Son, evil lives in the hearts of man," 1196 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,160 "not in a house." 1197 01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,720 And that's what I truly believed at the time. 1198 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,320 And he said, "You're gonna see." 1199 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:18,520 He started seeing this man. The way he described this man 1200 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:22,320 is long black hair, very narrow face. 1201 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,680 He had squinting dark eyes. 1202 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,680 There was no whites. 1203 01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,560 And the man, would just stand on the other side of the door 1204 01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,280 and tell him to do bad things. 1205 01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,600 But he would stand there and say, "Philip." 1206 01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:41,000 Philip. 1207 01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:43,800 Philip. 1208 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:46,600 He said he knew his name. 1209 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,880 Carmen refuses to believe her son 1210 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,160 and instead suspects his cancer treatments 1211 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,080 are causing him to hallucinate. 1212 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:58,600 But then Carmen's niece suffers a horrifying incident. 1213 01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,200 My niece Tammy came in from a date 1214 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,200 and I was asleep in bed already. 1215 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:04,960 She knocked on the door and she's like, 1216 01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,200 "Aunt Carmen, Aunt Carmen. It's happening again." 1217 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:12,160 The entity, would pull her shirt down on her shoulder 1218 01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,000 and start pulling her bra down. She got very upset by this. 1219 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,360 Carmen grabs her bedside Bible 1220 01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,480 and heads to Tammy's room. 1221 01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,800 I open the book and it was Psalms 24 where it opened. 1222 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,240 And I started reading and she said, 1223 01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:31,280 "Aunt Carmen, it's coming. Can you feel it? It's coming." 1224 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:35,840 And I can feel this this heaviness growing in the room. 1225 01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,080 And I see under her light shirt 1226 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:44,400 a hand I could see the knuckles go up under her shirt 1227 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,440 and it laughed a hideous... 1228 01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,120 ..and went through the back wall. 1229 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,600 I've got to protect these children. 1230 01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,560 I'm the last line of defence. 1231 01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,920 I reach for the rosary and I grab the crucifix. 1232 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,040 And it shatters. 1233 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,680 I don't know what to think or to do. I'm lost. 1234 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,880 Desperate, Carmen looks up the number 1235 01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:12,920 for the Warrens and calls. 1236 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,840 I took a phone call in the middle of the night 1237 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:19,080 from a very hysterical woman on the other end of the phone. 1238 01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,400 Ed and Lorraine arrive the next afternoon 1239 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,400 with a team of investigators. 1240 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,120 Mrs Snedeker was terribly frightened. 1241 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,480 They were seeing ghosts. 1242 01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:34,320 They were being physically hurt, even attacked sexually. 1243 01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,800 When she told me that it was a funeral home, 1244 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,120 I suspected necrophilia, 1245 01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,240 which would be an abuse of a dead body. 1246 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:48,080 And we know that this can bring about terrible phenomena 1247 01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:49,520 and hauntings in such a house. 1248 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,440 They were kind to us and they listened to our story 1249 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,400 and ask us a million questions. 1250 01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:00,480 They ask us about our faith, what had been going on. 1251 01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,880 They ask us about deaths in the family 1252 01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,320 and then Ms Warren wanted to tour the house. 1253 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,400 Lorraine makes her way through the former funeral home, 1254 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:12,640 spending extra time down in the basement 1255 01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,920 where much of the mortuary equipment still remains. 1256 01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:21,200 She was very calm and composed, just listening. 1257 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:22,640 And we went back upstairs, 1258 01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:27,840 she told me that she felt that there was a demonic in the house. 1259 01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,200 My heart sank and my world crashed. 1260 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,240 The whole episode was as if somebody had taken 1261 01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,640 everything I had learned in that 36 years, 1262 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,200 that was in a box that I had all neatly stacked in there, 1263 01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,520 and it was dumped out on the floor and strewn around. 1264 01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:50,960 What I believed, the physical realm, the materialistic world, 1265 01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,760 was not all there is, it's not. 1266 01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,520 The Warrens arrange for a priest to conduct 1267 01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,760 a special mass to cleanse the house of evil. 1268 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,680 The way that Ed and Lorraine would try to cleanse a house 1269 01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,440 would be a multifaceted attack, actually. 1270 01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,920 Ed would call in a priest, 1271 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,880 either Catholic or of the family's faith, 1272 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:41,880 to do a blessing of the house. 1273 01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:43,920 Sometimes a simple blessing will work. 1274 01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,640 It's a set of prayers casting out evil spirits 1275 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,600 out of a home or a location or out of a person 1276 01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:53,320 where they are diabolical, possessed. 1277 01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,520 In this case, you have to have a man 1278 01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:59,520 who realizes that when he leaves there, even though he has commanded 1279 01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,040 that these evil spirits to leave, 1280 01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,600 they could attack him in his own rectory and they did. 1281 01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:18,400 The attack on the priest, 1282 01:08:18,480 --> 01:08:20,280 along with the Warrens' evidence, 1283 01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:21,840 convinces church officials 1284 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:25,160 to grant permission for a formal exorcism. 1285 01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,640 When I first heard about exorcism, 1286 01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:30,880 I had no idea what it would entail 1287 01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:35,200 and they told me that anything could happen during an exorcism. 1288 01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,880 There have been even people that died during exorcisms 1289 01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,720 and they warned, "Are you willing to take that risk?" 1290 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:45,600 Their warnings made me tougher, stronger, more determined. 1291 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,000 Nine weeks after Carmen called the Warrens for help, 1292 01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,840 Catholic priests arrived to perform the ancient rite 1293 01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:56,200 of exorcism, the Rituale Romanum. 1294 01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,600 First private confessions are made by each person 1295 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,720 and the sacred rite of absolution is given. 1296 01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:06,120 Everyone is then given one last warning. 1297 01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,040 Once the exorcism starts, 1298 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,000 they must keep going until it's finished. 1299 01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,320 I had no idea what to expect, 1300 01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:16,280 but I have extreme trust in God 1301 01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,600 and that's what I was trusting on. 1302 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,960 Shortly after the prayer service begins, 1303 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:26,040 strange sounds rise up from the basement. 1304 01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,760 There were knocking sounds all around the house, 1305 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:33,600 but you could feel what I would call evil in that home. 1306 01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,320 As the noise grows in intensity, 1307 01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:40,440 something grabs Carmen's niece. 1308 01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,960 My niece was lifted up by her neck. 1309 01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:47,760 And I could feel the growling behind me. 1310 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:55,040 I reach my hand on her shoulder and that calmed everything down 1311 01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,600 it kind of like brought her in my safe space. 1312 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,640 Minutes later, the attack resumes, this time targeting Ed. 1313 01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,040 He felt like it was the demon 1314 01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,160 that was actually attacking his heart, 1315 01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:09,480 which was his weakest point. 1316 01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:11,000 His chest pain got so bad 1317 01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:15,040 he was removed from the exorcism and taken into the living room. 1318 01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,840 The priests continue the ritual undeterred 1319 01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:21,800 as the exorcism escalates into a full scale war. 1320 01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:26,800 Carmen ignores the chaos unfolding around her. 1321 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:28,240 I'm focused on the priest. 1322 01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:31,800 After hours of prayers and blessings, 1323 01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,840 the danger finally lifts for Carmen and her niece. 1324 01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:43,000 It was amazing. Faith was overtaking me 1325 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,240 and I was feeling that wondrous presence 1326 01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:50,800 and knew she was gonna be fine. 1327 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:52,920 I just knew. 1328 01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,200 When it was all over, I went in to find Lorraine and Ed 1329 01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,080 'cause I was concerned about his heart. 1330 01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,960 I asked if he was OK 1331 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,400 and he said now that the exorcism was over, he was sure 1332 01:11:03,480 --> 01:11:06,400 that he would be fine and everybody would be good. 1333 01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:12,040 After the exorcism, Carmen moves her family out 1334 01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,000 and has never looked back. 1335 01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,440 30 years later, she remains vigilant, 1336 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:21,720 fearing a return by the demonic force. 1337 01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,560 The way the priest explained it to me, 1338 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,160 you're born into a room with no doors. 1339 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,920 You can do something to create a door. 1340 01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:36,520 What they do is they come in and they close the door, 1341 01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,640 but the door remains there and that door can be opened 1342 01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,120 very, very easily. 1343 01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:47,120 So, I have to walk a very tight path to keep that door closed. 1344 01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,480 Books about the Snedeker haunting 1345 01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:52,280 and other cases raised widespread interest 1346 01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,480 in awareness of the Warrens and their paranormal work. 1347 01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:59,000 Each week, dozens of callers reach out for help. 1348 01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,280 To handle this increasing caseload, 1349 01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,760 Ed and Lorraine train a team of investigators. 1350 01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:08,160 Coming up, never before broadcast video 1351 01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,400 of the Warrens helping a young woman possessed by a demon. 1352 01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,280 In the name of Jesus Christ, I command you to leave. 1353 01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:19,160 By the 1990s, 1354 01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,640 Ed and Lorraine Warren had established themselves 1355 01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:24,680 as the world's preeminent paranormal investigators. 1356 01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,920 The number of people asking for their help grew beyond 1357 01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:29,800 what they alone could handle. 1358 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:31,880 Not wanting to turn any cases away, 1359 01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,480 Ed and Lorraine passed down their knowledge 1360 01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,480 to a new generation of investigators. 1361 01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,160 When I first started attending classes, 1362 01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:41,480 it was more instructional. 1363 01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,720 They didn't just send you out on a case immediately. 1364 01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:45,520 You know, they might go for a few months 1365 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,320 before you even went on your first case. 1366 01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,760 We'd usually go as a group, like Ed and Lorraine, 1367 01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,400 plus maybe four or five others. 1368 01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:54,640 Eventually, with more experience, 1369 01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:55,920 she'd send us out on our own. 1370 01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:00,800 I started going to their classes and they would present cases. 1371 01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:02,640 And it was just fascinating. 1372 01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:04,920 All the knowledge that they were trying to impart. 1373 01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,760 Our job for Ed and Lorraine 1374 01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,160 were to observe and report and then get back to them. 1375 01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,880 If Ed and Lorraine felt it's an interesting case 1376 01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,840 to investigate, they would call on it themselves 1377 01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:18,920 and they would start from the beginning again, 1378 01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:20,600 interviewing the people involved. 1379 01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:22,880 One of Jimmy's responsibilities 1380 01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:24,960 while working with the Warrens is to videotape 1381 01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:26,920 their investigations. 1382 01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,400 In this never before released footage, 1383 01:13:29,480 --> 01:13:32,640 Ed and Lorraine help a family who suspects their daughter 1384 01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,080 may be under demonic possession. 1385 01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:39,000 One time, Ed and Lorraine were interviewing a couple 1386 01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,320 and the daughter that was sitting at the table with us 1387 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,400 all of a sudden started acting up. 1388 01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,120 Like, she started coming under possession. 1389 01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,160 She's talking kind of in a different voice. 1390 01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,280 And Ed said, "Give her a pen." 1391 01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:53,600 Are you a devil? 1392 01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,160 And she started writing on a notebook 1393 01:13:56,240 --> 01:14:00,280 without looking, she's writing, "Get out, get out of my house." 1394 01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,640 The girl ended up getting an exorcism. 1395 01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,840 In the name of Jesus Christ, I command you to leave 1396 01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:09,560 and go back to where you came from. Who are you? 1397 01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:15,640 What? You're okay. 1398 01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,320 Ed was the bravest person I have ever met in my life. 1399 01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:24,240 He'd go into any situation 1400 01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:26,400 and doesn't seem scared of anything. 1401 01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:28,680 But he would tell us later, 1402 01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:30,680 "You know, I was still scared myself," 1403 01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:32,520 "but I can't show that I'm scared." 1404 01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:34,160 Over the years, 1405 01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,400 Jimmy Petonito works alongside the Warrens 1406 01:14:36,480 --> 01:14:40,080 on hundreds of hauntings and dozens of exorcisms. 1407 01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:43,440 Most are performed by Bishop Robert McKenna. 1408 01:14:44,440 --> 01:14:46,120 Bishop McKenna was pretty high up 1409 01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:50,200 in the rankings so he was able to kind of bypass 1410 01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:55,680 some of the long process of granting someone an exorcism 1411 01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:57,040 through the Catholic Church. 1412 01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,280 He had performed the rite of exorcism 1413 01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:07,080 so many times in his career that the entities knew him. 1414 01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,480 They knew him personally, 1415 01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:13,360 they knew of him, they were very fearful of him. 1416 01:15:13,440 --> 01:15:17,320 When it comes down to the Warrens performing exorcisms, 1417 01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:20,440 some of the priests that they used were questionable, 1418 01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,320 some weren't sanctioned by the church, 1419 01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:24,720 some were considered black sheep by the church. 1420 01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:28,000 But I think really when it comes down to it, performing an exorcism, 1421 01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,160 I believe it just needs to be somebody 1422 01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,120 who has faith in what they're preaching that gives them the power 1423 01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:34,720 to try to push these things out. 1424 01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,800 This is my home office where I keep everything I've accumulated 1425 01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:39,880 over the years. 1426 01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:43,840 DVDs, tapes, audiocassettes of my investigations. 1427 01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:47,160 Objects taken from haunted houses. 1428 01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:52,720 My favourite item is a first-class relic given to me by Bishop McKenna 1429 01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,000 for assisting on exorcisms. 1430 01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:59,840 It's a relic of Elizabeth Ann Seton, the first American saint. 1431 01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:02,040 It's actually a bone from her body. 1432 01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,400 It's used during an exorcism of a person. 1433 01:16:04,480 --> 01:16:07,160 What this does is it helps draw out the evil from the individual 1434 01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:09,840 when applied by the exorcist. 1435 01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,080 When we're assisting on an exorcism 1436 01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:15,240 we usually set the altar up for the priest, 1437 01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,720 we get the restraints out in case they're needed, 1438 01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,160 the person afflicted will sit in the chair. 1439 01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:22,760 The priest will start doing the litany of the saints 1440 01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:23,840 to start the prayers. 1441 01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:27,880 The prayer service often generates a violent reaction. 1442 01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:33,640 We had a 95 pound woman rip out of hospital restraints, 1443 01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,800 like the canvas unbuckles on her legs and arms. 1444 01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,360 She stood up like they were string and just broke everything. 1445 01:16:41,440 --> 01:16:44,480 There was one time where the woman being exorcised 1446 01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,280 was trying to gouge her own eyes out. 1447 01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,880 We were trying to hold her arms back. She bit me on my arm. 1448 01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:54,800 Often physical restraint is the least of their worries. 1449 01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:58,240 During an exorcism, it would not be unusual 1450 01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:02,040 at all to experience different types of manifestations. 1451 01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:07,320 A lot of sounds in the room, guttural types of noises 1452 01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,960 and a lot of banging happening all around us in the room. 1453 01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,760 And all of a sudden, the temperature would just plummet 1454 01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:18,080 to, you know, you can almost see your colleagues' breath. 1455 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,200 We had a police officer in our group. 1456 01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,560 While we were setting up, the police officer told me, 1457 01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:25,880 "I got into a terrible fight with my mother last night" 1458 01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,280 "on the phone. I said terrible things. I feel bad." 1459 01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,520 "I've got to apologise as soon as I get home." 1460 01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,040 So, when this woman got here, 1461 01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:34,840 during the middle of the prayers, she just turns all of a sudden 1462 01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:37,520 and says, "And you, the way you talked to your mother last night." 1463 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:39,800 "That's disgusting." And just went back to the priest. 1464 01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:41,800 And that scared me more than getting bitten. 1465 01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:43,600 That knowledge of the unknown. 1466 01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:45,480 One of the things that the Warrens 1467 01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:49,640 cautioned people against doing was don't play with Ouija boards, 1468 01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:53,360 don't try and invoke spirits on your own. 1469 01:17:54,440 --> 01:17:57,920 You don't know what door you might open. 1470 01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:01,240 There's always that chance that you're sensitive to it 1471 01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:07,280 or there is a confluence of events and boom, something can happen. 1472 01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,400 Of the thousands of paranormal investigations 1473 01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:14,000 conducted by the Warrens, 1474 01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:17,520 Ed considered perhaps his most important case to be 1475 01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:21,720 one involving a single mother living in Hebron, Connecticut. 1476 01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:30,280 There was a woman who believed the house she was renting was haunted 1477 01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:31,800 and she was freaked out and she left. 1478 01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,880 The realtor was suing her for $2,000 1479 01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,400 to get back the money that she still owed in rent, 1480 01:18:39,480 --> 01:18:41,000 so they called in the Warrens. 1481 01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:46,440 She begged us to go into the house and to find out or get some evidence 1482 01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,800 that would prove that there really were ghosts. 1483 01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,400 Now you don't walk into a court of law and say, 1484 01:18:52,480 --> 01:18:54,160 "Well, judge, there was ghosts there." 1485 01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:55,840 "Well, that's fine, yes." 1486 01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:57,360 You have to have evidence. 1487 01:18:57,440 --> 01:19:00,640 Any court of law, they use photographs, recordings, 1488 01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,280 credible witnesses as evidence. 1489 01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:04,920 That's what we use. We won the case. 1490 01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,840 We set a precedent here in the United States. 1491 01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,360 When you would talk to Ed about his legacy 1492 01:19:10,440 --> 01:19:11,920 and about the work he did, 1493 01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:13,800 it was one of the things he was most proud of. 1494 01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,040 He said, "We did it. We proved in the court of law" 1495 01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,320 "that there are such things as ghosts." 1496 01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:22,160 Now, scientists would say, "Well, you didn't prove a thing" 1497 01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:25,440 "because you didn't take that ghosty and put him in a bottle" 1498 01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:28,160 "so that we could open it up and examine him." 1499 01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:31,080 You know, they're saying that scientifically you have 1500 01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,640 to prove that God exists, that ghosts exist. 1501 01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:35,000 There is no such thing. 1502 01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:38,080 You can't get scientific in the supernatural world. 1503 01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:41,560 So, if we can prove in a court of law that ghosts exists 1504 01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:42,720 in haunted houses, 1505 01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,160 I think that's good enough for anyone. 1506 01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:50,080 In addition to their books and media appearances, 1507 01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,560 Ed and Lorraine expand their reach by producing 1508 01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,160 and starring in their own television program. 1509 01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:57,960 'Seekers of the Supernatural'. 1510 01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:01,560 Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome 1511 01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,360 to 'Seekers of the Supernatural'. 1512 01:20:03,440 --> 01:20:04,680 My name is Tony Spera. 1513 01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:06,160 I'll be your moderator tonight. 1514 01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:08,880 It was Ed's idea. He says, "What do we talk about?" 1515 01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,480 He says, "We're gonna talk about the demons," 1516 01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:13,040 "we're gonna talk about ghosts," 1517 01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,040 "we're gonna talk about the reality of ghosts," 1518 01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:16,920 "about these certain cases we've been on" 1519 01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,320 "and what happened in these cases." 1520 01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:24,960 He goes, we're gonna show the people that these things are real. 1521 01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:29,000 The Warrens also open their own occult museum 1522 01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:30,560 to the public. 1523 01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:33,760 Here they display the many haunted and demonic artifacts 1524 01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:35,720 collected over the years. 1525 01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:41,200 Perhaps the most infamous item in their collection is Annabelle, 1526 01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:44,120 the doll since featured in several 'Conjuring' films, 1527 01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:48,200 was given to the Warrens by a nurse who feared its demonic power, 1528 01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:51,880 a power Ed believes it still possesses. 1529 01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:53,960 The priest came here one day and he said, 1530 01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:56,920 "This doll, it's supposed to be infested by devils." 1531 01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,200 He picks the doll up and he throws it across the room. 1532 01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,440 On his way home, the car went out of control, 1533 01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:03,640 and was hit head on into a tractor trailer truck. 1534 01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,200 It was demolished and the priest was almost killed. 1535 01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:10,160 My mother told me not to look Annabelle in the eye. 1536 01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:11,600 When I go into the museum, 1537 01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,360 whenever I've been in and very, very few times, 1538 01:21:14,440 --> 01:21:15,920 I don't even look there. 1539 01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:17,960 Horrible in there. 1540 01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:21,840 It's oppressing, it's very heavy. 1541 01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:25,160 Just get an awful heavy feeling. 1542 01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:27,000 I went and I visited them 1543 01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:31,400 at their house in Munro, Connecticut, went into their museum. 1544 01:21:31,480 --> 01:21:33,360 I saw Annabelle, the doll. 1545 01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:38,480 Annabelle at that point was not consigned to the basement 1546 01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,960 and locked in a cabinet. 1547 01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:45,080 They had her in one of their rooms in the back of the house 1548 01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:48,840 and went out to lunch and we came back from lunch 1549 01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,120 and Annabelle the doll was in a different spot 1550 01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:52,960 from where we left her. 1551 01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:58,720 Decades after their first paranormal investigation, 1552 01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:03,040 the Warrens finally receive the star treatment. 1553 01:22:05,480 --> 01:22:08,680 In 2001, a documentary film company invites 1554 01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,280 Ed and Lorraine Warren to Japan 1555 01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,320 in order to investigate a haunted tunnel. 1556 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:18,160 After the filming completes, Ed and Lorraine visit Nagoya, 1557 01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:22,120 a city where Ed served for a time after World War II. 1558 01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:27,760 January 11, 1946, Ed was in the Navy. 1559 01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,120 He was standing on a dock in Nagoya 1560 01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:34,360 when he gets word that his daughter was just born. 1561 01:22:35,440 --> 01:22:38,280 Years and years later, goes to the same dock 1562 01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,360 and he looks at Lorraine and he says, 1563 01:22:40,440 --> 01:22:42,480 "This is where I stood all those years ago" 1564 01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:44,640 "when I heard Judy was born." 1565 01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:46,240 You're thinking about war time 1566 01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,960 all the people you saw die, 1567 01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,640 and then the birth of your daughter. 1568 01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:53,560 He had this revelation about his life 1569 01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,880 that he had come full circle. 1570 01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:58,280 Not long after returning from Japan, 1571 01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:01,000 Ed suffers a debilitating stroke. 1572 01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:05,040 His heart stopped... 1573 01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:10,720 ..and the medics actually use the paddles on him and got him back. 1574 01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:14,680 But he was never the same. 1575 01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,400 He was in a coma for 11 weeks 1576 01:23:16,480 --> 01:23:19,920 and never really regained control of his functions. 1577 01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:21,840 In other words, reasoning and speech. 1578 01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:24,920 Distraught but determined, 1579 01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:28,160 Lorraine takes it upon herself to care for Ed. 1580 01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:33,360 She moved him around so he wouldn't get bed sores, 1581 01:23:33,440 --> 01:23:35,040 she would change his catheter, 1582 01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,640 she would do things that a nurse would do. 1583 01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:42,840 On August 23, 2006, five years after his stroke, 1584 01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,280 Ed Warren passed away. 1585 01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:49,520 When my dad finally passed away, 1586 01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:51,640 my feeling was that he was free. 1587 01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:54,760 I even said that to him as I was driving to the hospital. 1588 01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:56,840 I said, "You're free, Dad." 1589 01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:00,280 It hit me hard. He was just a wonderful guy. 1590 01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:02,640 Anytime I talked to him, he was down to earth, 1591 01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:05,120 was willing to express his beliefs 1592 01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,880 and his thoughts on different types of hauntings. 1593 01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:09,640 And I think when he passed, 1594 01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:13,320 the field lost an incredible person. 1595 01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:17,320 After Ed's passing, his son-in-law, Tony Spera, 1596 01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:21,720 stepped into help Lorraine carry on the Warren legacy. 1597 01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:24,880 Lorraine and I continued lecturing after 2006. 1598 01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:26,880 Lorraine got satisfaction out of doing it 1599 01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:29,320 because she would talk about Ed at these lectures. 1600 01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:32,680 Then one day, we get a call from an entertainment lawyer. 1601 01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:36,320 Warner Brothers wanted to buy her rights and Ed's rights 1602 01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:38,200 to their life story, rights and their cases. 1603 01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:41,240 Lo and behold, all of a sudden, there's a movie gonna be made 1604 01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:42,680 on one of their cases. 1605 01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:46,120 It was a haunted farmhouse in Rhode Island. 1606 01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,760 In 2013, Warner Brothers releases 1607 01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:52,120 'The Conjuring', based on the Perron family case. 1608 01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,680 The film shocks the entertainment industry 1609 01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:58,680 by earning more than $300 million at the box office. 1610 01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:00,840 I had chills down my back 1611 01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:04,560 seeing actors portraying Ed and Lorraine like that. 1612 01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:07,520 You know, they couldn't have picked two better people in my book. 1613 01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:09,720 Patrick Wilson and Vera Farmiga. 1614 01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:13,480 I'm proud of them for what they've accomplished. 1615 01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:16,920 Just seeing others portraying them, 1616 01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,840 they've brought so much attention to the field 1617 01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,640 that it's only a positive thing. 1618 01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:30,400 On April 18, 2019, at the age of 92, 1619 01:25:30,480 --> 01:25:32,880 Lorraine Warren passes away. 1620 01:25:34,480 --> 01:25:38,160 When I heard that Lorraine Warren had passed, I was in shock. 1621 01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:39,800 It was the end of an era. 1622 01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,040 Ed and Lorraine were some of the original pioneers 1623 01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:45,040 in this field and they meant so much to so many. 1624 01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:46,560 They meant a lot to me. 1625 01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:52,720 I've never seen a greater love between two people 1626 01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:55,800 than them because they did everything together. 1627 01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:57,880 They were never apart. 1628 01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,760 My mother, when she passed, 1629 01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:04,800 one of the undertakers, said they have security cameras, 1630 01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:08,400 and there were orbs floating around her coffin all night long, 1631 01:26:08,480 --> 01:26:10,040 which I thought was wonderful 1632 01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:16,160 because it felt like there was all good spirits around her. 1633 01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,400 They were a regular couple 1634 01:26:20,480 --> 01:26:23,360 and they were very religious, 1635 01:26:23,440 --> 01:26:25,840 Lorraine especially, and that was no act. 1636 01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:34,840 The Warrens blazed a trail that is still being travelled today 1637 01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:37,240 by so many different paranormal investigative groups 1638 01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:39,040 and television shows saying, 1639 01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:41,560 "I believe in ghosts, I believe we can document them" 1640 01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:43,760 "and I want to tell others about it." 1641 01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:45,880 They were doing it first. 1642 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,680 Now, it's out in the open and it's out in the open 1643 01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:50,680 because of people like Ed and Lorraine Warren. 1644 01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:53,880 I refer to them as the grandparents 1645 01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:55,760 of modern ghost hunting. 1646 01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:59,560 The Warrens brought the idea of the paranormal 1647 01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:01,400 to the public consciousness 1648 01:27:01,480 --> 01:27:03,120 in a way that had not been done before, 1649 01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:06,240 and I don't think it could be replicated or replaced. 1650 01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:10,080 My mum and dad were very sincere in what they did. 1651 01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:11,640 They truly wanted to help people. 1652 01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:17,400 They truly wanted people to know that the devil existed, 1653 01:27:17,480 --> 01:27:18,840 that God exists. 1654 01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,600 The legacy of Ed and Lorraine Warren 1655 01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:24,560 is always do right, 1656 01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:27,040 always try to help others. 1657 01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:32,760 To prove that the devil is real, 1658 01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:36,320 not just a mythological figure, 1659 01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:37,920 and that God is our protector. 1660 01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:41,200 Their legacy is love 1661 01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:42,840 and love for mankind. 1662 01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:46,680 Captions edited by Ai-Media ai-media.tv 1663 01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:48,920   128555

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