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Steve Fulcher was found guilty
of two counts of gross misconduct
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and received two final written warnings.
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He chose not to appeal
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and made the decision to resign
from the force.
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I think we should all remember that.
He was not sacked.
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He chose to leave.
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There has been much speculation
by Fulcher
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and, consequently, the media,
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in relation to possible other
victims of Christopher Halliwell.
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We at Wiltshire Police
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made the ethical decision
to maintain a position
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of not rising to these sensational
and unsubstantiated claims
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because we believe
this would lead to a media frenzy.
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The murder of Becky Godden
has raised a number of issues,
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including the
Police And Criminal Evidence Act,
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which was introduced in 1984.
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I believe that,
if PACE is ethically followed
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and delivered in line
with the codes of practice,
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the right outcomes can be achieved
without evidence being inadmissible.
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OK, gentlemen,
I am now going to take you through
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the basic stages
of the intelligence cycle.
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Stage one will be planning and direction,
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in which we evaluate opportunities
and decide on strategy.
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Er, do you want to...?
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Thank you.
So, that's planning and direction.
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Next, collection...
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Is this the same one?
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Yeah.
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Christ... Do you ever get used to that?
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OK. Er, as I was saying,
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stage two is collection.
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- When?
- Yesterday.
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I've told you before,
don't believe everything you read.
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- It's perfectly safe. Don't worry.
- It was on BBC News.
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There was a suicide bomb in Benghazi
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only about half a mile
from your barracks.
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It's news to me.
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How have you been?
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I'm really enjoying it. I'm...
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...feeling pretty chilled, actually.
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And at least I'm wanted here.
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I know you couldn't care less,
but Debs Peach told me
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Pat Geenty's retired for personal reasons
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and Mike Veale is now Chief Constable.
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I just thought you could do with a laugh.
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You know what? You're right.
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I really... couldn't care less any more.
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Well, that's all my news.
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We love you very much
and can't wait to see you.
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I've got to go because I'm meeting
the girls at the cinema tonight.
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OK.
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All right...
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Give them my love.
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I love you.
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Please, be careful.
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Mm-hm.
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- Hello?
- Debs...
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- What the fuck is going on?
- I wondered when you'd find out.
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They've finally given Mike Veale
the top job?
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And he's already been talking about you.
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Blaming you for the fact
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they still haven't charged Halliwell
over Becky Godden.
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They've had years
to come up with enough evidence.
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It's all wearing a bit thin, this,
isn't it, still blaming me?
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Yeah.
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What happened with that stuff
they dug up at the lake...
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- ...at Ramsbury?
- 60 items of clothing.
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You'd think they'd have assigned
a big team to it, wouldn't you?
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Oh, what...?
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They haven't done anything?
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Let's just say, apparently,
there hasn't been much progress.
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They've only just put a small team on it.
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And it's being headed up by Sean Memory,
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who's now a Detective
Superintendent, by the way.
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Do you know what, I think I'd rather
be here
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with mad Libyans throwing bombs at me
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than anywhere near Gable fucking Cross.
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How long are you out there for?
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I've got another six months.
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And don't mention anything
about bombs to Yvonne.
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Please.
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Karen?
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Come on, love, we'd better get going.
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Let's at least hear what he's got to say.
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I've written an open letter to Halliwell
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asking him to tell the truth
about what he did to Becky.
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I'm not expecting a response,
but I just...
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...have to try to keep her
in the public eye.
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Cos she doesn't matter
as much as Sian, you see?
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Because Sian was just a normal girl
who worked in an office.
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A good girl.
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But Becky was a bad girl.
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A bad little girl
who must have deserved it...
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- Karen - Well,
I know that's what everyone thinks!
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Listen to me.
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I am convinced that, because of you,
the Police and Crime Commissioner
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is pressuring Wiltshire Police
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into looking for new evidence
to bring Halliwell to trial.
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So, whatever it is you're doing,
it's working.
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- Oh, God...
- There, you see?
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Oh, thank you very much. Thank you.
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I won't give up.
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- Hi, Kev.
- Hi, Elaine.
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How are you?
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Are you OK, love?
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I'm just feeling it a bit at the moment.
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It's been hard.
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You get people in the pub
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who think they're trying to be nice,
rather than spiteful,
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but they say, "Don't you wish
you'd gone out with her that night?"
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I ask myself that all the time.
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You mustn't think about it
like that, Kev.
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She died because of Christopher
Halliwell, not anybody else.
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Certainly not you.
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Is that what you wanted to see me about?
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Because that's easy to deal with.
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No, it's not that.
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Well, what, then, love?
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I'm seeing somebody else.
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- Oh.
- I'm sorry.
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Listen to me, you must never apologise
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for getting on with your life.
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I feel so bloody guilty.
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No!
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Sian's not here.
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What are you supposed to do, pine
for her for the rest of your life?
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It's a comfort to me
that she knew what it was
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to share a life with someone,
that she was loved and cherished.
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But now she's gone and...
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...I'm glad for you
that you have someone else.
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I had to come here
and tell you about Emma
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before you found out from anyone else.
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Is that her name, Emma?
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Why don't you bring her to the wedding?
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Are you sure?
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Please. It's important to me.
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Bring her, Kev.
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I can meet her before, if you like.
Take the pressure off.
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Thank you.
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And this is everything you have?
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Well, we do have some other leads
we're following up,
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but basically, yes, it is.
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I thought there were some items
recovered from a pond
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with Sian's boots.
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Does any of that relate to Becky?
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We did find some stuff, yeah.
But a lot of it had rotted.
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And we've not been able to match
any of it yet to Becky's clothing
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or descriptions of clothing
of any missing persons, so...
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I'd say we've got enough here
to re-arrest and charge
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- and get it to court.
- Mm-hm.
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But maybe not enough
to convince a jury to convict.
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Right.
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It's all consistent with Halliwell
having murdered Rebecca Godden.
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And this prostitute who links
the two of them is helpful.
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But nothing actually says he did it.
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The elephant in the room is,
of course, the confession.
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Well, that was ruled inadmissible, so...
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Wrongly. In my opinion.
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But with a different judge,
a different set of circumstances,
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there may be a way we can
get it allowed this time round.
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- How?
- The key, ironically enough,
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is for Halliwell to come out
and say, "I didn't do it."
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Remember, he's never had to actually
state a defence for Rebecca Godden
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because the case was thrown out.
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He'll probably stay silent and
just challenge us to make our case,
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as is his right.
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But if he now tries to claim
he's never met her,
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or words to that effect,
that's the game-changer.
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His confession directly contradicts
this. So, it's unlikely, of course.
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Any lawyer worth his salt would
advise him to keep his mouth shut.
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But if he did, that gives us
the grounds to ask the judge
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to revisit the original ruling.
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If that happens, Steve Fulcher
would have to give evidence.
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And his relationship
with Wiltshire Police is not great,
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to say the least.
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It's by far the strongest evidence
we have.
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Mum, don't embarrass me, OK?
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I really like this one.
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- Hey!
- Hey...
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Mum...
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- This is Kev.
- Hiya.
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- Hi, Kev.
- Nice to meet you.
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And you.
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Do you want a cuppa?
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Please, yeah.
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Elaine... This is Emma.
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- Pleased to meet you, love.
- Thanks.
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Sorry it's in
such difficult circumstances.
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Well, that's not your fault, is it?
Come on, sit down.
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- Coffee?
- Yeah, please.
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Two coffees, please.
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So...
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How did you meet? Tell me everything.
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Erm, just round a friend's house.
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We got chatting and it sort of clicked.
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We went out a few times.
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I done her a chicken pasta
and that sealed the deal.
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Kev's a really good cook.
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You're not so bad.
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- She's brilliant, Elaine.
- He's just being kind, honestly.
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So, how's the wedding stuff going,
then, Elaine?
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Getting there. Actually,
I'm just going to go to the loo.
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Christopher John Halliwell,
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I'm arresting you
for the murder of Rebecca Godden,
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contrary to common law.
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You do not have to say anything,
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but it may harm your defence
if you do not mention,
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when questioned, something
which you later rely on in court.
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Anything you do say
may be given in evidence.
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Do you understand?
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Mm.
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OK, I'm going to take you now
to Worcester Police Station,
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where you will be interviewed
in the presence of a solicitor.
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I don't want a solicitor.
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Pardon?
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I don't want a solicitor.
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I want to see what you have to say first.
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Who's in charge of this case?
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That would be Detective
Superintendent Sean Memory.
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If...
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...I wrap this up in...
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...in the next few hours,
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any other charges against me...
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...various things in the past...
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You're talking about car thefts,
break-ins, bits and pieces?
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Some more... serious.
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Will clearing this up
be enough to stop everything else?
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If Mr Memory is listening,
the ball is in his court.
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Get a print set up. If we can get
a confession now, that's it...
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...no need for Fulcher.
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Now, what I'm saying there, Chris,
and I've signed it at the bottom...
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...is that I lead the investigation
into Becky Godden.
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I'm not aware of any other
allegations against you.
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And I'm not investigating you for
any other offence, apart from Becky.
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If I clear this up, I don't want you
coming back every two years saying,
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"What about this? What about that?"
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This interview is about one matter
and one matter only.
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But at this point in time...
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...I'm not aware of any other
allegations against you.
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OK.
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Erm...
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Actually, before I do anything else...
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...I think I'd better get
my solicitor to check it first.
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Is that OK?
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No, that's fine.
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He's got no intention
of clearing anything up.
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He's playing with us.
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He just wanted to know what we've got.
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Ladies and gentlemen...
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...my wife and I...
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Whoooo!
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...would like to thank you all
sincerely for coming.
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It really is...
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It's wonderful to have you all
with us on this special day.
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And I'd like to thank the children,
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my three and Elaine's,
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for being there for us...
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...through everything.
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And of course...
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...I must mention Sian.
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Now, we all remember those dark days
when she went missing.
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When there was nothing we could do
but sit and hope.
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Yeah, we'd get little bits
and pieces of information,
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but not the message
that we really wanted to hear.
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That she was safe and well...
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...and coming home.
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- What was all that about?
- I asked him, Jackie.
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I said, "Please, don't talk
about Sian too much."
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But he had it all planned out
in his head what he wanted to do.
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He's planned everything today.
He likes to be...
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...in control.
He likes to organise everything.
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- He likes to take over, more like.
- I care about him a lot. I do.
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He is a good person.
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I don't want to be on my own,
Jackie. I want to be married.
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I know.
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Halliwell has parted company
with the lawyers
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who represented him at the first trial.
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Really? Why would he do that?
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Well, it would seem he has decided
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he wants to represent himself in court.
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Bloody hell.
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Precisely.
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So, this morning, Halliwell finally
issued an outline of his defence,
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which he's composed himself.
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We've been asking for it for weeks.
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It says simply he has no knowledge
of the death of Rebecca Godden,
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nor any information
regarding details of how she died.
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I think we have our game-changer.
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The confession now comes into play.
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We can ask the new judge
to reconsider admitting it.
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An email came through this morning
from the CPS
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saying that Wiltshire Police
have discovered new evidence
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against Halliwell
for Becky Godden's murder
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and that he's been charged as a result.
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But in the next breath they say
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they want to try and reintroduce
the confession evidence.
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You're joking?
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Well, do you want an even bigger laugh?
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If they do manage
to get it ruled admissible,
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they want me to come back
and give evidence at the trial.
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After all they've done to you,
now they want you to help them out?
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The new evidence obviously
can't be that strong, can it?
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It's not ever going to end, is it?
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For fuck's sake...
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Oh, hello. Come in.
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- Hi, Karen.
- Hello.
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- Come in, sit down.
- No, no, I can't stay for long.
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I, erm...
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I just came to tell you
that we are hopeful
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of finally bringing charges
against Halliwell over Becky.
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He's been arrested.
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We're still working
to strengthen the case against him.
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But we think we can go to trial.
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- But how?
- We've been working hard on the case
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and we've dug up plenty of new evidence.
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- Can we know what it is?
- I can't say too much now,
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but the evidence is compelling.
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There's a little way to go yet,
but we're optimistic.
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Oh, that is so fantastic!
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We'd almost given up hope, hadn't we?
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I will, of course, be in touch
if there's any more news, OK?
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Thanks for coming to tell us, Sean.
323
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Well, it's important
we're all on the same page, right?
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- Well, thanks a million, Sean.
- Yeah, thanks.
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Oh, Charlie, I've...
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I've got a knot in my tummy.
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But why? We've just had the best
bloody news you could hope for.
328
00:19:27,212 --> 00:19:29,038
But what if it doesn't work again?
329
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What if another ruling
goes against us or something?
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Because, if we don't get him
this time, we never will.
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Always the gloomiest way
of looking at it, that's you!
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Yeah, well, I've had that smashed
into me, haven't I, over the years?
333
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There hasn't been much
to be optimistic about, has there?
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Elaine, look at where you are right now.
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What are you doing?
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I mean, you've given up your job,
you've even sold your car.
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Pete prefers to drive.
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It's not right, Elaine. It's got to stop.
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It's just you're not you any more.
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You don't even behave like you any more.
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To be honest, I feel like I've had
the stuffing knocked out of me.
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00:20:10,931 --> 00:20:13,599
I can't stand any sort of confrontation.
343
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,599
There's just so much tension
in the house.
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I feel like I've lost all my confidence.
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Thanks.
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Hi.
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Do you mind?
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I just think I'm being an idiot
for coming out and helping them.
349
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You're not helping them out, though,
are you?
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This isn't about them, is it?
351
00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:02,599
Well, they deserve to be left
on the beach, with the tide out,
352
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looking like the fucking idiots they are.
353
00:21:05,651 --> 00:21:07,211
But Karen doesn't.
354
00:21:08,213 --> 00:21:09,213
But Karen doesn't.
355
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You're doing the right thing.
356
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Thank you.
357
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Here. Cheers, Aiden.
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Here.
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Thanks, love.
360
00:21:57,454 --> 00:21:58,814
We're going to go.
361
00:22:00,334 --> 00:22:01,705
Don't you think it's better
to wait and face him,
362
00:22:01,706 --> 00:22:03,174
rather than doing it like this?
363
00:22:03,174 --> 00:22:04,653
I told him I was moving out today.
364
00:22:04,654 --> 00:22:06,693
Yeah, but he didn't believe you, did he?
365
00:22:06,694 --> 00:22:09,654
Look, I couldn't honestly handle him
trying to talk me out of it.
366
00:22:10,654 --> 00:22:13,375
- This way, it's much better.
- It's not Pete's fault.
367
00:22:13,376 --> 00:22:16,654
- I should never have married him.
- So, why did you?
368
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I just thought, after what's happened,
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I needed someone
to take control of my life for me.
370
00:22:22,145 --> 00:22:24,105
It's the worst thing
I could have done, all right?
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00:22:26,654 --> 00:22:28,654
Oh, nice one.
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Mr Fulcher to see you.
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Thank you.
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- Sean.
- Good to see you, Steve.
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And you.
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- Mr Fulcher.
- Hi.
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Take a seat, please.
378
00:22:48,654 --> 00:22:50,654
I see you've got a suntan.
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00:22:50,907 --> 00:22:53,545
I see you've got
Detective Superintendent.
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Thanks for coming in today.
We just wanted to give you
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some background on the trial.
382
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Right, so,
there's definitely going to be one?
383
00:23:00,174 --> 00:23:03,654
Yes. And we are definitely going
to need you to give evidence.
384
00:23:04,065 --> 00:23:05,654
Well, I'm all ears.
385
00:23:06,207 --> 00:23:08,653
Well, the pre-trial concluded
this afternoon
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and the new judge,
Mr Justice Griffith Williams,
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has ruled that the confession
made to you by Halliwell
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will be admissible as evidence.
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00:23:16,654 --> 00:23:19,653
He was quite scathing of Mrs Justice Cox,
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- who ruled against you last time.
- Mm-hm.
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00:23:21,694 --> 00:23:25,221
Halliwell tried to have it excluded
again, based on her original ruling,
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00:23:25,222 --> 00:23:28,829
but the new judge said that
the confession was made voluntarily.
393
00:23:28,854 --> 00:23:31,010
In his view, there was no oppression.
394
00:23:31,011 --> 00:23:34,011
And to not allow it
would offend good sense.
395
00:23:35,597 --> 00:23:38,545
You see, I thought I'd lost
my career because other people,
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00:23:38,546 --> 00:23:41,882
who should have known better,
decided I'd done something terrible.
397
00:23:41,883 --> 00:23:44,010
But now it seems, apparently, I haven't.
398
00:23:44,011 --> 00:23:47,010
Look, I'd have understood
if you'd told us to fuck off.
399
00:23:47,011 --> 00:23:49,011
Yeah, that was never going to happen.
400
00:23:52,751 --> 00:23:53,911
Hm...
401
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,289
So, how does your new Chief Constable
402
00:23:56,290 --> 00:23:58,720
feel about me
being his star witness, then?
403
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,220
It's Elaine.
404
00:24:12,108 --> 00:24:13,780
Mrs Edwards,
you've been waiting for four years.
405
00:24:13,781 --> 00:24:16,593
- How are you feeling about the trial?
- Well, it's difficult.
406
00:24:16,594 --> 00:24:18,152
But we hope it's going to go our way.
407
00:24:18,153 --> 00:24:22,267
How do you feel about Halliwell
representing himself, Mrs Edwards?
408
00:25:43,613 --> 00:25:47,293
When was the last time
you saw your daughter, Mrs Edwards?
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00:25:47,327 --> 00:25:49,253
December 2002.
410
00:25:50,987 --> 00:25:53,213
She would have been 21
the following April.
411
00:25:53,273 --> 00:25:55,414
And I always thought
she'd turn up for her 21st birthday,
412
00:25:55,439 --> 00:25:56,439
but she never did.
413
00:25:58,307 --> 00:26:02,053
I got a card from her
every Mother's Day, without fail.
414
00:26:03,460 --> 00:26:06,460
But from 2003 onwards, I never got one.
415
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,880
Becky was very petite.
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00:26:11,220 --> 00:26:14,748
She was only 4'11" tall and she
could wear children's clothing.
417
00:26:14,773 --> 00:26:19,018
You know, like, for 12 to 14-year-olds.
418
00:26:19,580 --> 00:26:21,420
She was just a child, really.
419
00:26:24,074 --> 00:26:28,034
Miss X, you have been granted
anonymity today.
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00:26:28,526 --> 00:26:31,526
I understand you have a history
of drug abuse and prostitution,
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00:26:31,551 --> 00:26:34,551
which is how you met Rebecca Godden.
422
00:26:34,576 --> 00:26:36,256
That's correct, yes.
423
00:26:36,281 --> 00:26:38,056
She was a friend of mine.
424
00:26:38,081 --> 00:26:40,401
But you have turned your life around
since then
425
00:26:40,426 --> 00:26:43,733
and are now married with two children.
426
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:45,680
Yes.
427
00:26:45,727 --> 00:26:48,093
And my husband knows nothing
about my past life.
428
00:26:48,118 --> 00:26:49,958
And yet you still came along today,
429
00:26:49,983 --> 00:26:53,453
even though your past could have
been revealed to all and sundry.
430
00:26:54,267 --> 00:26:56,133
I thought it was important.
431
00:26:57,566 --> 00:26:58,566
I'm very grateful to you.
432
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,360
Please, stay where you are.
433
00:27:05,113 --> 00:27:06,593
Mr Halliwell...
434
00:27:07,554 --> 00:27:09,394
According to you...
435
00:27:12,154 --> 00:27:14,794
...I was besotted with Rebecca Godden.
436
00:27:14,819 --> 00:27:15,819
Correct.
437
00:27:16,140 --> 00:27:18,053
Even though I've never met her before.
438
00:27:21,033 --> 00:27:24,673
Sometimes you even give her money
to stop her going with other men.
439
00:27:25,267 --> 00:27:27,533
I remember, one night,
you picked me up for sex,
440
00:27:27,558 --> 00:27:29,558
you knew she was my mate and you said,
441
00:27:29,583 --> 00:27:31,693
"Don't tell Becks about this."
442
00:27:32,980 --> 00:27:35,693
Right, so I'm supposed
to have had sex with you, too, yeah?
443
00:27:36,333 --> 00:27:37,533
Yes.
444
00:27:38,167 --> 00:27:39,167
Twice.
445
00:27:42,511 --> 00:27:44,511
You see, I think there's a chance...
446
00:27:44,536 --> 00:27:46,536
...that you could be mistaken.
447
00:27:46,561 --> 00:27:48,561
So, take a long, hard look at me
448
00:27:48,586 --> 00:27:50,586
and confirm that the person
you're talking about is me.
449
00:27:50,611 --> 00:27:52,611
Because this is serious.
450
00:27:52,636 --> 00:27:54,316
Is this a joke?
451
00:27:54,341 --> 00:27:57,661
I am one hundred million percent
sure it's you.
452
00:27:59,907 --> 00:28:02,333
If we've had sex together twice...
453
00:28:04,773 --> 00:28:06,773
...what colour are my eyes?
454
00:28:08,100 --> 00:28:09,333
I don't know.
455
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,600
What colour were Becky's?
456
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,485
We compared soil found on the spade
457
00:28:22,510 --> 00:28:25,393
in the garage at Christopher
Halliwell's home address
458
00:28:25,418 --> 00:28:27,418
with a sample of soil from the field
459
00:28:27,443 --> 00:28:29,718
where Rebecca Godden's body was found.
460
00:28:29,743 --> 00:28:31,988
Becky was outside the club
461
00:28:32,013 --> 00:28:34,493
having some sort of argument
with this taxi driver.
462
00:28:34,518 --> 00:28:37,878
He was shouting at her.
It went on for quite a while.
463
00:28:37,903 --> 00:28:40,543
I'm pretty sure I heard him call her
"a fucking slag",
464
00:28:40,568 --> 00:28:42,568
or words like that.
465
00:28:42,593 --> 00:28:46,593
This row with the taxi driver,
when was that?
466
00:28:46,618 --> 00:28:49,618
Er, just after New Year 2003.
467
00:28:49,643 --> 00:28:51,843
I'm pretty sure it was the 3rd,
early in the morning.
468
00:28:51,868 --> 00:28:55,366
In the end, the driver somehow
persuaded her to get in the back
469
00:28:55,391 --> 00:28:56,773
and they drove off.
470
00:28:57,734 --> 00:28:59,734
Did you get a look at the driver?
471
00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:01,759
Not clearly, no.
472
00:29:01,784 --> 00:29:04,784
And you never saw Rebecca again
after that?
473
00:29:05,267 --> 00:29:07,183
No. Never.
474
00:29:07,208 --> 00:29:09,368
Nor indeed have we been able
to find anybody else who has,
475
00:29:09,393 --> 00:29:10,773
after that night.
476
00:29:13,533 --> 00:29:14,533
Mr Halliwell...
477
00:29:15,267 --> 00:29:16,653
Do you have any questions?
478
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:18,973
Yeah, erm...
479
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,840
The taxi she drove off in,
480
00:29:22,865 --> 00:29:27,865
did it have a white illuminated sign
on it saying, well, "Taxi"?
481
00:29:27,890 --> 00:29:28,890
Yeah, it did.
482
00:29:31,147 --> 00:29:32,133
Thank you.
483
00:29:32,426 --> 00:29:35,426
Because, at that time, my car
did not have a light on the roof.
484
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,613
So, thank you.
485
00:29:45,613 --> 00:29:46,773
Thank you.
486
00:29:47,093 --> 00:29:49,253
The court has now broken until tomorrow.
487
00:29:49,278 --> 00:29:51,773
- If you could be back here for 9:00am?
- Fine.
488
00:29:54,867 --> 00:29:57,601
I'd heard most of that evidence
before. Hadn't you?
489
00:29:57,626 --> 00:29:58,793
Mm.
490
00:29:58,818 --> 00:30:02,298
We had all that back when Steve was
around, as far as I can remember.
491
00:30:02,323 --> 00:30:04,323
So, what have they been doing
for the last five years?
492
00:30:04,348 --> 00:30:07,348
All this new evidence!
All they've got is Steve.
493
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,913
And he must be so nervous,
after all this time,
494
00:30:09,938 --> 00:30:11,938
wondering what Halliwell is going to say.
495
00:30:26,287 --> 00:30:27,287
Tell us again, Mr Fulcher,
496
00:30:27,312 --> 00:30:30,312
what Christopher Halliwell told you
that day about the second victim.
497
00:30:30,392 --> 00:30:32,392
He said he had taken a prostitute
498
00:30:32,417 --> 00:30:35,257
from the Manchester Road area of Swindon,
499
00:30:35,282 --> 00:30:37,442
had sex with her
in the back of his taxi...
500
00:30:37,467 --> 00:30:39,467
...and then strangled her.
501
00:30:39,492 --> 00:30:42,533
I said, "Was it similar to Sian?"
He said, "Pretty much."
502
00:30:42,558 --> 00:30:44,558
I asked if there were any other victims,
503
00:30:44,583 --> 00:30:46,423
I said, "Is it just these two?"
504
00:30:46,448 --> 00:30:48,608
And he replied, "Isn't that enough?"
505
00:30:48,633 --> 00:30:50,993
OK, let's pause there.
506
00:30:51,018 --> 00:30:54,078
I'm sure Mr Halliwell
has some questions for you.
507
00:31:05,107 --> 00:31:07,373
I couldn't care less...
508
00:31:07,513 --> 00:31:10,933
...about not being cautioned by you.
509
00:31:11,262 --> 00:31:12,309
Sorry?
510
00:31:12,334 --> 00:31:15,744
It didn't bother me in
the slightest that...
511
00:31:15,769 --> 00:31:17,769
...my rights were breached.
512
00:31:17,794 --> 00:31:19,794
When I was arrested on 24th March,
513
00:31:19,819 --> 00:31:22,819
that was the first day
of a life sentence.
514
00:31:22,844 --> 00:31:24,844
I knew that.
515
00:31:24,869 --> 00:31:27,869
So, after I took you to Sian's body,
everything after that...
516
00:31:27,894 --> 00:31:30,098
...well, that was about pure revenge.
517
00:31:32,220 --> 00:31:33,420
I don't quite follow you.
518
00:31:33,547 --> 00:31:36,707
Well, I didn't know about PACE
and codes and all that,
519
00:31:36,732 --> 00:31:39,372
but I knew enough to know that,
if I asked to speak to a solicitor,
520
00:31:39,397 --> 00:31:43,397
then everything else should stop
until that's been given to me.
521
00:31:43,422 --> 00:31:44,422
I knew that much.
522
00:31:44,447 --> 00:31:47,447
I asked you six or seven times,
523
00:31:47,472 --> 00:31:50,472
it's all been recorded,
and you kept refusing me.
524
00:31:51,267 --> 00:31:52,573
I knew that was wrong.
525
00:31:52,598 --> 00:31:55,598
I didn't care because I knew
I could turn it to my advantage.
526
00:31:55,623 --> 00:31:58,013
So, all that whole story...
527
00:31:58,540 --> 00:32:00,540
...about burying a girl in a field...
528
00:32:02,267 --> 00:32:03,267
...it was just a pack of lies.
529
00:32:04,167 --> 00:32:06,047
Mr Halliwell, if you are alleging
530
00:32:06,072 --> 00:32:10,192
that revenge played a part
in what happened that day,
531
00:32:10,217 --> 00:32:11,473
you must explain yourself.
532
00:32:11,498 --> 00:32:13,153
Yeah, in a minute, Your Honour.
533
00:32:13,178 --> 00:32:17,178
I had no idea if there was a body
buried in that field in Eastleach.
534
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,760
How could I if I'd never met
Rebecca Godden in my life?
535
00:32:21,785 --> 00:32:23,785
What happened was, at the end of 2001,
536
00:32:23,810 --> 00:32:25,810
I started driving these fellas around.
537
00:32:25,835 --> 00:32:26,835
Well...
538
00:32:28,267 --> 00:32:29,765
...drug dealers, they were.
539
00:32:29,790 --> 00:32:32,790
But I never asked them any questions
and they seemed to trust me.
540
00:32:32,815 --> 00:32:36,815
Now, one night,
at the end of March time 2003,
541
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,840
they directed me out to this field
in Eastleach.
542
00:32:39,865 --> 00:32:41,865
And they carried this big holdall
543
00:32:41,890 --> 00:32:43,753
out of the boot of my taxi
into the field.
544
00:32:43,778 --> 00:32:45,778
Now, I drove off.
I came back for them later.
545
00:32:45,803 --> 00:32:47,773
I never asked them what they were doing.
546
00:32:48,626 --> 00:32:50,666
A few months later,
I was driving one of them around
547
00:32:50,691 --> 00:32:52,433
and he was drunk, right?
548
00:32:52,458 --> 00:32:54,973
And he tells me that they had buried...
549
00:32:54,998 --> 00:32:59,413
...a prostitute in that field that night.
550
00:32:59,438 --> 00:33:01,438
Now, I thought he was messing
551
00:33:01,463 --> 00:33:03,463
because he said it like it was nothing.
552
00:33:03,488 --> 00:33:07,008
So, when I took you to that field
in Eastleach,
553
00:33:07,033 --> 00:33:09,733
I had no idea
if there was a body buried there.
554
00:33:10,726 --> 00:33:12,293
And I can prove it.
555
00:33:13,027 --> 00:33:16,507
How deep down
did I say the body was buried?
556
00:33:16,532 --> 00:33:18,793
- You said five feet.
- That's right.
557
00:33:18,818 --> 00:33:21,778
And how deep was it actually buried?
558
00:33:21,803 --> 00:33:23,803
Er, about eight inches,
559
00:33:23,828 --> 00:33:25,105
cos the bedrock
was so close to the surface.
560
00:33:25,130 --> 00:33:26,153
Yeah.
561
00:33:26,178 --> 00:33:30,413
So, why would I say five feet
if it was only eight inches?
562
00:33:30,438 --> 00:33:33,753
Well, you also couldn't be sure
when you had murdered Becky.
563
00:33:33,778 --> 00:33:35,778
Cos I never did, cos I'd never met her.
564
00:33:35,803 --> 00:33:38,462
You said it was in 2003, 2004 or 2005.
565
00:33:38,487 --> 00:33:40,828
So what I surmised...
566
00:33:41,382 --> 00:33:44,382
...and from you getting wrong
the depth that she was buried,
567
00:33:44,407 --> 00:33:47,289
was that you had other victims
that you had buried,
568
00:33:47,314 --> 00:33:49,748
victims that we don't yet know about,
569
00:33:49,773 --> 00:33:52,338
and that you became confused
about which was which.
570
00:33:52,338 --> 00:33:54,410
That's an absolute pack of lies.
And you know that.
571
00:33:54,435 --> 00:33:58,548
No, I know that you told me
you had murdered a prostitute
572
00:33:58,573 --> 00:34:00,873
and buried her in that field.
573
00:34:00,898 --> 00:34:02,898
I believed...
574
00:34:02,923 --> 00:34:05,603
...in that moment, that you were contrite
575
00:34:05,628 --> 00:34:07,463
and that you wanted to unburden yourself.
576
00:34:07,488 --> 00:34:09,776
- That's ridiculous.
- You said you could take me
577
00:34:09,801 --> 00:34:11,718
to the exact spot in that field
578
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:12,906
where she was buried.
579
00:34:12,955 --> 00:34:14,733
In fact, you were a few feet out,
580
00:34:14,734 --> 00:34:17,167
but we later discovered
the remains of Rebecca Godden
581
00:34:17,168 --> 00:34:20,461
in that field
that you had directed us to.
582
00:34:20,462 --> 00:34:24,194
Well, I only said that because
I wanted to get you in the shit.
583
00:34:24,195 --> 00:34:26,674
We need to know why, Mr Halliwell.
584
00:34:26,675 --> 00:34:28,979
Because he threatened my daughters.
585
00:34:28,980 --> 00:34:30,704
- I did what?
- You threatened my daughters.
586
00:34:30,705 --> 00:34:32,763
And nobody threatens my kids!
587
00:34:32,764 --> 00:34:35,409
- Absolute rubbish.
- That's why I took you to that field.
588
00:34:35,410 --> 00:34:37,730
Cos I knew for certain,
if anything was found there,
589
00:34:37,731 --> 00:34:39,372
then any third-rate solicitor
590
00:34:39,373 --> 00:34:41,788
would make mincemeat of the fact
I hadn't been cautioned
591
00:34:41,813 --> 00:34:43,813
and you'd be dropped right in it.
592
00:34:44,562 --> 00:34:47,562
But you haven't told us
what this threat was.
593
00:34:49,868 --> 00:34:51,188
I'm not going to say.
594
00:34:51,213 --> 00:34:52,568
You're not going to say?
595
00:34:52,615 --> 00:34:53,848
No.
596
00:34:55,142 --> 00:34:59,648
Don't you think it's rather
important to tell us what it was?
597
00:35:00,082 --> 00:35:01,578
Well, there's no point.
598
00:35:01,603 --> 00:35:04,328
I can't prove it.
It's my word against his.
599
00:35:05,048 --> 00:35:06,208
I see.
600
00:35:06,233 --> 00:35:09,233
So, do you have any more questions
for Mr Fulcher?
601
00:35:12,735 --> 00:35:13,735
Er...
602
00:35:15,675 --> 00:35:16,675
No.
603
00:35:17,701 --> 00:35:19,221
Very well.
604
00:35:19,246 --> 00:35:20,726
This might be a good time
to take a break.
605
00:35:20,751 --> 00:35:22,951
Er, just one more thing. Erm...
606
00:35:22,976 --> 00:35:26,776
It was a pleasure ruining
your career, you corrupt bastard.
607
00:35:48,675 --> 00:35:52,674
"I do solemnly, sincerely
and truly declare and affirm
608
00:35:52,675 --> 00:35:54,674
"that the evidence I give
shall be the truth,
609
00:35:54,675 --> 00:35:58,195
"the whole truth
and nothing but the truth."
610
00:36:12,675 --> 00:36:14,675
You really loathe Mr Fulcher, don't you?
611
00:36:17,515 --> 00:36:18,675
Absolutely.
612
00:36:19,675 --> 00:36:22,355
You blame him for your confessions,
don't you?
613
00:36:22,790 --> 00:36:26,674
I'm responsible for my own actions.
I've faced up to what I did to Sian.
614
00:36:26,675 --> 00:36:27,675
No, but you see, you haven't.
615
00:36:27,676 --> 00:36:31,303
You've never given a proper account
of what happened when Sian died,
616
00:36:31,304 --> 00:36:33,413
other than some nonsensical claim
617
00:36:33,414 --> 00:36:35,674
that she tried
to grab your steering wheel
618
00:36:35,675 --> 00:36:36,675
and then you went to punch her
619
00:36:36,676 --> 00:36:38,675
without realising you had a knife
in your hand.
620
00:36:40,675 --> 00:36:44,674
You abducted her for sexual
purposes, just as you did Rebecca.
621
00:36:44,675 --> 00:36:46,674
Er, that's ludicrous.
622
00:36:46,675 --> 00:36:48,675
- It was an accident.
- Was it?
623
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,034
Is that why her leggings
and knickers were pulled down
624
00:36:52,035 --> 00:36:53,760
and her bra was missing?
625
00:36:54,128 --> 00:36:57,120
Listen, I came here to tell the truth.
626
00:36:57,875 --> 00:37:00,714
It doesn't matter to me
if the jury believes me or not.
627
00:37:00,715 --> 00:37:03,674
Yes, you keep saying that.
But that's not true, either.
628
00:37:03,675 --> 00:37:06,674
You received 25 years
for the murder of Sian O'Callaghan.
629
00:37:06,675 --> 00:37:09,674
But there is at least a chance
you could be released,
630
00:37:09,675 --> 00:37:11,674
albeit you'd be in your 70s.
631
00:37:11,675 --> 00:37:13,674
If you're found guilty
of Rebecca's murder,
632
00:37:13,675 --> 00:37:14,675
then you will never be released.
633
00:37:14,676 --> 00:37:17,674
So, actually, there's rather a lot
riding on this.
634
00:37:17,675 --> 00:37:19,674
Which is why you've constructed
this fantasy account
635
00:37:19,675 --> 00:37:21,675
of how you led the police to her body.
636
00:37:23,195 --> 00:37:24,640
It's what happened.
637
00:37:25,394 --> 00:37:29,077
Yes. Except, for it to be true, you
have to try and convince the jury
638
00:37:29,102 --> 00:37:31,419
you have never met Rebecca Godden.
639
00:37:32,675 --> 00:37:35,253
- I... I haven't.
- Which is why you're so desperate
640
00:37:35,254 --> 00:37:37,674
to try and rebut the evidence of Miss X,
641
00:37:37,675 --> 00:37:40,714
whom you inconveniently had sex with
on two occasions.
642
00:37:40,715 --> 00:37:43,675
I've never set eyes on her before
and, to be honest...
643
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,514
- ...she's not my type.
- Not your type?
644
00:37:47,515 --> 00:37:48,674
What is your type, then?
645
00:37:48,675 --> 00:37:51,675
Well, certainly not that thin.
646
00:37:53,355 --> 00:37:55,320
Is your type size eight?
647
00:37:56,675 --> 00:37:57,675
Size ten?
648
00:37:59,675 --> 00:38:02,674
Pretty, young women who are out
and about on the streets of Swindon
649
00:38:02,675 --> 00:38:05,674
in the early hours of the morning,
is that your type?
650
00:38:05,675 --> 00:38:09,355
About five feet,
five feet two inches tall,
651
00:38:09,687 --> 00:38:11,007
on their own...
652
00:38:11,675 --> 00:38:13,035
...vulnerable.
653
00:38:14,974 --> 00:38:16,974
Is that your type?
654
00:38:55,012 --> 00:38:57,012
_
655
00:39:15,301 --> 00:39:17,301
Foreman of the jury,
656
00:39:17,326 --> 00:39:20,326
have you reached a verdict
upon which you are all agreed?
657
00:39:21,344 --> 00:39:22,344
We have.
658
00:39:22,675 --> 00:39:25,674
Do you find the defendant,
Christopher Halliwell,
659
00:39:25,675 --> 00:39:28,840
guilty or not guilty of murder?
660
00:39:29,675 --> 00:39:31,675
Guilty.
661
00:39:43,421 --> 00:39:45,421
Christopher John Halliwell...
662
00:39:46,287 --> 00:39:51,320
...you have been convicted by a jury
for the murder of Rebecca Godden.
663
00:39:51,875 --> 00:39:54,674
I observe that you lied to this jury
664
00:39:54,675 --> 00:39:58,035
about the circumstances
of the murder of Rebecca Godden,
665
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,674
just as you lied to the jury
666
00:40:00,675 --> 00:40:03,880
about the circumstances
of the murder of Sian O'Callaghan.
667
00:40:04,675 --> 00:40:08,874
I have concluded that the level of
your offending is exceptionally high
668
00:40:08,875 --> 00:40:12,035
and direct
there will be a whole life order.
669
00:40:12,660 --> 00:40:14,300
Take him down.
670
00:40:26,501 --> 00:40:28,861
- Where's Yvonne gone?
- Oh, she's gone to find Steve.
671
00:40:48,035 --> 00:40:50,675
- Whole life?
- Yeah.
672
00:40:55,675 --> 00:40:59,355
The judge said his account made
no sense at all. He lied and lied.
673
00:41:01,394 --> 00:41:03,354
He was right, though.
674
00:41:04,868 --> 00:41:06,868
He did ruin me.
675
00:41:07,875 --> 00:41:10,343
I mean, it occurred to me,
when I was facing him in court,
676
00:41:10,344 --> 00:41:11,623
that we cancelled each other out.
677
00:41:11,624 --> 00:41:13,269
That day, in order to bring him down,
678
00:41:13,270 --> 00:41:15,674
it was like
I had to also lose everything.
679
00:41:15,675 --> 00:41:17,675
As if it was some sort of pact
between us.
680
00:41:32,355 --> 00:41:36,319
Karen, we wondered if you could
say something to the press.
681
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,674
I've drafted some thoughts for you.
682
00:41:38,675 --> 00:41:40,874
I wondered if you and John
could make a joint statement,
683
00:41:40,875 --> 00:41:42,674
mother and father together.
684
00:41:42,675 --> 00:41:45,022
Right. Because I'm not giving up,
not till the truth comes out.
685
00:41:45,023 --> 00:41:46,858
- What?
- That wasn't a trial,
686
00:41:46,883 --> 00:41:47,871
that was a travesty.
687
00:41:47,872 --> 00:41:50,194
What about the drug dealers
Chris was talking about?
688
00:41:50,195 --> 00:41:51,674
Has anybody been looking for them?
689
00:41:51,675 --> 00:41:54,675
Was Fulcher involved with them?
We need answers.
690
00:41:55,542 --> 00:41:57,541
I'm not doing a joint statement
with John.
691
00:41:57,675 --> 00:41:59,078
You're on your own with him.
692
00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:01,675
And I don't need your notes.
I know what I'm going to say.
693
00:42:05,001 --> 00:42:07,001
Steven...
694
00:42:08,715 --> 00:42:11,675
Can you take my bag?
695
00:42:18,675 --> 00:42:21,674
I want to place on record
my thanks for the team
696
00:42:21,675 --> 00:42:24,398
led by Detective Superintendent
Sean Memory,
697
00:42:24,399 --> 00:42:27,675
who have brought this case
to a positive conclusion today.
698
00:42:28,012 --> 00:42:31,874
We have waited over five years
for this moment.
699
00:42:31,875 --> 00:42:35,674
This has been
an extremely painful journey,
700
00:42:35,675 --> 00:42:39,674
but at last
we have finally received justice
701
00:42:39,675 --> 00:42:42,073
for our beautiful little girl Becky.
702
00:42:42,074 --> 00:42:45,324
Sean and his team were left
with virtually nothing to go on
703
00:42:45,325 --> 00:42:47,674
after the evidence,
initially gathered by Steve Fulcher,
704
00:42:47,675 --> 00:42:49,932
had to be thrown out
virtually in its entirety.
705
00:42:49,957 --> 00:42:55,355
I want to thank, from the bottom
of my heart, Steve Fulcher.
706
00:42:56,354 --> 00:43:01,354
I will always be indebted to him
for bringing my little girl home.
707
00:43:01,379 --> 00:43:03,852
They worked tirelessly
with the Crown Prosecution Service
708
00:43:03,877 --> 00:43:06,404
to uncover new evidence
and bring this case to justice.
709
00:43:06,429 --> 00:43:08,469
They are to be congratulated.
710
00:43:08,494 --> 00:43:13,096
But Steve should never have suffered
the terrible consequences,
711
00:43:13,121 --> 00:43:18,000
the loss of his reputation,
the loss of his career...
712
00:43:18,675 --> 00:43:21,675
...just for doing the right thing.
713
00:43:22,675 --> 00:43:23,675
Thank you.
714
00:43:29,875 --> 00:43:32,200
Go on. Go and talk to her.
715
00:43:37,675 --> 00:43:38,675
I can't.
716
00:43:40,675 --> 00:43:42,675
She's all right, you know?
717
00:43:43,454 --> 00:43:44,680
Like you, really.
718
00:43:51,814 --> 00:43:53,814
I just can't. It's too close.
719
00:44:05,195 --> 00:44:08,257
Steve Fulcher, this has been
a landmark case in many ways.
720
00:44:08,258 --> 00:44:11,344
And I know it's been a difficult
journey for you, personally.
721
00:44:11,345 --> 00:44:14,674
But how do you respond to those
who say we cannot have the police
722
00:44:14,675 --> 00:44:17,235
riding roughshod
over the rights of a suspect
723
00:44:17,236 --> 00:44:19,674
- as if it were the 1970s again?
- I agree.
724
00:44:19,675 --> 00:44:23,080
I agree. But what if next time it's
your daughter who's gone missing?
725
00:44:23,675 --> 00:44:27,674
And if another police officer finds
himself in the position I was in,
726
00:44:27,675 --> 00:44:29,205
what does he do?
727
00:44:29,206 --> 00:44:30,674
Now, after what's happened to me,
728
00:44:30,675 --> 00:44:33,248
he would be perfectly entitled
to give up on her,
729
00:44:33,249 --> 00:44:35,416
to take his suspect
back to the police station
730
00:44:35,417 --> 00:44:38,033
and let a lawyer advise him to go,
"No comment."
731
00:44:38,034 --> 00:44:43,440
Now, if she was still alive, your
daughter would then inevitably die.
732
00:44:44,521 --> 00:44:48,521
And the police's official position
on this seems to be,
733
00:44:48,546 --> 00:44:49,920
"So be it.
734
00:44:50,441 --> 00:44:53,441
"We're very sorry,
but she'll just have to die, then."
735
00:44:54,675 --> 00:44:56,675
Is that what we want?
57631
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