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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,172 --> 00:00:07,549 - If you didn't know the Murdaughs, 2 00:00:07,632 --> 00:00:09,008 you wasn't from Hampton. 3 00:00:09,092 --> 00:00:11,136 And whether you knew them or not, they knew you. 4 00:00:11,219 --> 00:00:15,890 - They've been the solicitors nonstop for 100 years. 5 00:00:15,974 --> 00:00:19,394 - Money, position, power. 6 00:00:19,477 --> 00:00:21,479 - Kings of the Lowcountry. 7 00:00:21,563 --> 00:00:24,357 - You're friends with them, and you appreciate them, 8 00:00:24,441 --> 00:00:27,736 but at the same time, you have to beware of them, 9 00:00:27,819 --> 00:00:30,739 because if something goes down, 10 00:00:30,822 --> 00:00:32,508 you're gonna be the one in trouble, not them. 11 00:00:43,626 --> 00:00:46,671 - The body of a woman found near the Broad River Boat Ramp 12 00:00:46,755 --> 00:00:49,299 is Mallory Beach. 13 00:00:53,470 --> 00:00:55,096 - Paul Murdaugh, the person accused 14 00:00:55,180 --> 00:00:56,940 of driving the boat at the time of the crash, 15 00:00:57,015 --> 00:00:58,141 was arraigned. 16 00:00:58,224 --> 00:00:59,768 - Paul Murdaugh pled not guilty 17 00:00:59,851 --> 00:01:02,562 to all three felony charges against him. 18 00:01:02,645 --> 00:01:05,315 - What you got from a lot of people was, 19 00:01:05,398 --> 00:01:06,441 "It's the Murdaughs. 20 00:01:06,524 --> 00:01:07,942 Nothing's going to happen." 21 00:01:08,026 --> 00:01:09,986 - A lot of people in the public thought 22 00:01:10,069 --> 00:01:14,574 there will not be any justice until Paul gets convicted. 23 00:01:22,207 --> 00:01:24,709 - Paul and Maggie Murdaugh were found dead. 24 00:01:24,793 --> 00:01:28,296 - Investigators note both were shot multiple times. 25 00:01:28,379 --> 00:01:30,381 - People begin to think another Murdaugh 26 00:01:30,465 --> 00:01:32,300 is gonna get away with something. 27 00:01:32,383 --> 00:01:35,970 - This case has become so convoluted, so crazy, 28 00:01:36,054 --> 00:01:37,722 so many twists and turns to it. 29 00:01:37,806 --> 00:01:40,058 Every time you think it's finished, 30 00:01:40,141 --> 00:01:41,726 there's another turn. 31 00:01:41,810 --> 00:01:44,103 - Three months after Alex Murdaugh's wife and son 32 00:01:44,187 --> 00:01:45,480 were killed in June, 33 00:01:45,563 --> 00:01:47,273 Murdaugh himself was shot in the head 34 00:01:47,357 --> 00:01:50,193 over the weekend in broad daylight. 35 00:02:41,744 --> 00:02:43,204 - Good evening, everybody. 36 00:02:43,288 --> 00:02:45,208 Andrew Davis out here in Hampton County right now 37 00:02:45,248 --> 00:02:49,127 with the story that really everybody is talking about. 38 00:02:49,210 --> 00:02:53,173 We now know officially that Alex Murdaugh was shot. 39 00:02:53,256 --> 00:02:56,175 - Alex Murdaugh was changing a tire on the side of the road 40 00:02:56,259 --> 00:02:58,052 in rural Hampton County Saturday 41 00:02:58,136 --> 00:03:00,513 when a car passed him, turned around, 42 00:03:00,597 --> 00:03:03,391 and someone shot him in the head. 43 00:03:03,474 --> 00:03:04,767 - This is when you wonder 44 00:03:04,851 --> 00:03:06,291 if they just started making things up 45 00:03:06,352 --> 00:03:07,896 or it was a soap opera somewhere. 46 00:03:07,979 --> 00:03:09,623 It seems like it's a TV show more than it seemed 47 00:03:09,647 --> 00:03:11,399 like real life, because in this case, 48 00:03:11,482 --> 00:03:13,735 how does this get more unusual? 49 00:03:13,818 --> 00:03:15,528 And then was it the same person 50 00:03:15,612 --> 00:03:17,530 that shot Maggie and Paul, or what may happen 51 00:03:17,614 --> 00:03:19,407 as you spin through your mind? 52 00:03:19,490 --> 00:03:23,244 - Murdaugh called 911 shortly after 1:30 in the afternoon 53 00:03:23,328 --> 00:03:25,079 to report he'd been shot. 54 00:03:25,163 --> 00:03:28,249 He was airlifted to a hospital in Savannah for treatment. 55 00:03:28,333 --> 00:03:30,877 - There was an entry and exit wound. 56 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,587 Murdaugh's skull was fractured, 57 00:03:32,670 --> 00:03:35,798 and there was minor brain bleeding as well. 58 00:03:35,882 --> 00:03:37,383 - When I first got that call, 59 00:03:37,467 --> 00:03:39,969 I was fearing for the worst, like, "Oh, my God, like, 60 00:03:40,053 --> 00:03:42,096 "He was just killed like another... 61 00:03:42,180 --> 00:03:43,765 You know, another death in this family?" 62 00:03:43,848 --> 00:03:46,851 - It's a long, twisted, crazy tale 63 00:03:46,935 --> 00:03:49,103 of awful things for this family, 64 00:03:49,187 --> 00:03:50,772 for everybody concerned. 65 00:03:50,855 --> 00:03:52,815 But what we know right now, SLED is investigating. 66 00:03:52,857 --> 00:03:54,776 Hampton County sheriffs are investigating. 67 00:03:54,859 --> 00:03:58,738 Alex is right now, hopefully, expected to recover. 68 00:04:32,939 --> 00:04:36,150 - My initial thought is, "What the hell is going on?" 69 00:04:36,234 --> 00:04:38,152 I was shocked beyond belief 70 00:04:38,236 --> 00:04:40,571 and bewildered and concerned, 71 00:04:40,655 --> 00:04:45,159 because if someone is trying to kill him, 72 00:04:45,243 --> 00:04:46,828 the family needs to know, 73 00:04:46,911 --> 00:04:49,831 because they are concerned for their safety. 74 00:05:11,936 --> 00:05:13,688 - Someone's going through great distances 75 00:05:13,771 --> 00:05:15,314 to punish this family. 76 00:05:15,398 --> 00:05:16,691 They didn't think 77 00:05:16,774 --> 00:05:18,693 Maggie and Paul were enough. 78 00:05:18,776 --> 00:05:20,695 I'm sure there's a couple enemies out there. 79 00:05:20,778 --> 00:05:22,196 A lot of people hold grudges. 80 00:05:22,280 --> 00:05:25,033 The list of it could be endless. 81 00:05:25,116 --> 00:05:28,453 How many family members has he put in prison? 82 00:05:28,536 --> 00:05:30,913 How many people are mad that... 83 00:05:30,997 --> 00:05:34,167 You know, of the "privileged state"? 84 00:05:34,250 --> 00:05:36,502 - At the time, the investigator told me, 85 00:05:36,586 --> 00:05:38,379 "We didn't find a gun." 86 00:05:38,463 --> 00:05:40,548 His tire had been slashed. 87 00:05:40,631 --> 00:05:42,383 It certainly is very disturbing 88 00:05:42,467 --> 00:05:44,927 that there would be vigilantes out there 89 00:05:45,011 --> 00:05:50,058 who just was going to take justice into their own hands. 90 00:05:51,517 --> 00:05:54,896 - This is yet another tragic event for the Murdaugh family. 91 00:05:54,979 --> 00:05:57,982 This past June, Alex Murdaugh found his wife, Maggie, 92 00:05:58,066 --> 00:06:00,276 and youngest son, Paul, shot to death 93 00:06:00,359 --> 00:06:03,029 at the family's Colleton County property. 94 00:06:03,112 --> 00:06:05,198 No suspects have been arrested. 95 00:06:06,324 --> 00:06:07,718 - In any sort of death investigation, 96 00:06:07,742 --> 00:06:10,203 it's extremely common for investigators 97 00:06:10,286 --> 00:06:12,455 to immediately look at who had grudges 98 00:06:12,538 --> 00:06:14,123 on the people that have died. 99 00:06:14,207 --> 00:06:18,419 Paul was awaiting trial for Mallory Beach's death, 100 00:06:18,503 --> 00:06:20,755 so it would make sense for SLED to immediately look 101 00:06:20,838 --> 00:06:24,050 at all of the boat crash victims and their families 102 00:06:24,133 --> 00:06:27,804 to see if they had any sort of involvement. 103 00:06:27,887 --> 00:06:29,388 At the end of the day, SLED deemed 104 00:06:29,472 --> 00:06:30,973 that none of them were suspects, 105 00:06:31,057 --> 00:06:33,101 which created a bigger question of, 106 00:06:33,184 --> 00:06:35,353 well, then who would want to hurt these people? 107 00:06:35,436 --> 00:06:37,396 But this was not the first time 108 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,232 that the Murdaughs had been implicated 109 00:06:39,315 --> 00:06:42,860 in some sort of crime. 110 00:07:35,496 --> 00:07:36,664 - Ah. 111 00:07:49,719 --> 00:07:51,971 - I was taking my dad to work, 112 00:07:52,054 --> 00:07:56,184 and we were taking Sandy Run Road. 113 00:07:56,267 --> 00:07:59,061 We pull up to a scene. 114 00:07:59,145 --> 00:08:00,225 We didn't know what it was. 115 00:08:00,271 --> 00:08:01,351 We just seen state troopers 116 00:08:01,397 --> 00:08:03,357 all around the road, no lights. 117 00:08:03,441 --> 00:08:06,110 Cars are just sitting there running. 118 00:08:06,194 --> 00:08:09,197 Finally, after waiting, like, 15 minutes, 119 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:10,781 we took the long way. 120 00:08:10,865 --> 00:08:13,868 I dropped my dad off, and I was like, 121 00:08:13,951 --> 00:08:16,913 "Hey, I'm gonna try to take that way back home," 122 00:08:16,996 --> 00:08:18,372 'cause it's a small town. 123 00:08:18,456 --> 00:08:20,124 If you see something like that, you... 124 00:08:20,208 --> 00:08:21,709 You're gonna be nosy. 125 00:08:21,792 --> 00:08:23,169 So I went back through. 126 00:08:23,252 --> 00:08:24,921 They were still there. 127 00:08:25,004 --> 00:08:26,839 So I took the other back way home. 128 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,180 - I think I heard it on the radio at, like, 7:30. 129 00:08:34,263 --> 00:08:35,473 I called, 130 00:08:35,556 --> 00:08:37,892 and Stephanie answered. 131 00:08:37,975 --> 00:08:39,268 I said, "Are y'all okay? 132 00:08:39,352 --> 00:08:41,604 "I heard that somebody had threw a body out 133 00:08:41,687 --> 00:08:43,981 on Sandy Run Road." 134 00:08:44,065 --> 00:08:45,500 - She was like, "Who do you think it is?" 135 00:08:45,524 --> 00:08:46,960 I said, "I don't know," but I was like, 136 00:08:46,984 --> 00:08:49,237 "Mama, did you hear from Stephen any?" 137 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,864 I was like, "Stephen never came home." 138 00:08:52,990 --> 00:08:54,825 - And that's when I knew... 139 00:08:58,621 --> 00:09:01,874 Yeah, that it was him. 140 00:09:17,223 --> 00:09:21,352 Stephen was a rambunctious person. 141 00:09:21,435 --> 00:09:25,398 He just... he always made you smile. 142 00:09:25,481 --> 00:09:28,234 His quirkiness. 143 00:09:28,317 --> 00:09:33,030 He was intelligent and dramatic sometimes. 144 00:09:33,114 --> 00:09:34,782 He could fake cry in a minute. 145 00:09:38,077 --> 00:09:41,038 In public. 146 00:09:41,122 --> 00:09:42,790 - Growing up with a twin, 147 00:09:42,873 --> 00:09:45,751 like, there was never a dull moment. 148 00:09:45,835 --> 00:09:47,962 I was the shy one. 149 00:09:48,045 --> 00:09:49,922 He was the more outspoken one. 150 00:09:50,923 --> 00:09:51,966 - He knew hisself. 151 00:09:52,049 --> 00:09:53,151 He knew who he wanted to be. 152 00:09:53,175 --> 00:09:55,469 He knew who he was. 153 00:09:55,553 --> 00:09:57,305 He just was a fun person, 154 00:09:57,388 --> 00:10:00,975 like that annoying big brother that you just love. 155 00:10:02,893 --> 00:10:05,146 - You know how, like, you see in movies and stuff 156 00:10:05,229 --> 00:10:06,897 there's always the popular group 157 00:10:06,981 --> 00:10:10,109 and then there's, like, the odd ones that don't fit in? 158 00:10:10,192 --> 00:10:11,944 Well, we were the odd ones. 159 00:10:16,907 --> 00:10:18,659 We were kinda, like, the outcasts, 160 00:10:18,743 --> 00:10:21,329 but at the skate rink, that was our safe place. 161 00:10:21,412 --> 00:10:23,080 So we could be who we wanted to be, 162 00:10:23,164 --> 00:10:24,808 and you didn't have to worry about somebody coming in 163 00:10:24,832 --> 00:10:27,293 and trying to beat you up or jump you 164 00:10:27,376 --> 00:10:29,086 just because you were different. 165 00:10:31,380 --> 00:10:35,551 The first time I met Stephen, we were all dancing. 166 00:10:35,634 --> 00:10:37,219 And he loved to dance. 167 00:10:37,303 --> 00:10:39,555 Like, he could move. 168 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:42,933 He just... he was the center of attention, 169 00:10:43,017 --> 00:10:46,979 and everybody would just follow along. 170 00:10:52,109 --> 00:10:54,028 Most of the popular groups 171 00:10:54,111 --> 00:10:56,906 were people's family that had money, 172 00:10:56,989 --> 00:10:59,075 big names like the Murdaughs. 173 00:10:59,158 --> 00:11:02,286 If your name's not powerful, like my last name, 174 00:11:02,370 --> 00:11:04,997 compared to the Murdaughs, it's on the bottom. 175 00:11:05,081 --> 00:11:08,250 You're either here, or you're here. 176 00:11:08,334 --> 00:11:12,797 So it's like, I'm here. 177 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,049 It's like, some people can just do whatever they want, 178 00:11:15,132 --> 00:11:17,301 and then they just throw their last name out there 179 00:11:17,385 --> 00:11:20,137 and then they get away with it. 180 00:11:20,221 --> 00:11:23,432 I guess if you don't have money, you're a nobody. 181 00:11:23,516 --> 00:11:26,352 If I did half the things that the Murdaughs are accused of, 182 00:11:26,435 --> 00:11:29,730 I would be under the jail cell. 183 00:11:30,815 --> 00:11:33,192 - We didn't have a lot, you know, growing up, 184 00:11:33,275 --> 00:11:35,403 but Stephen understood something 185 00:11:35,486 --> 00:11:36,987 that a lot of kids don't understand 186 00:11:37,071 --> 00:11:39,407 in that this is not forever, 187 00:11:39,490 --> 00:11:43,619 that we were deserving of more, and that... 188 00:11:43,702 --> 00:11:46,080 a dream is what you make it. 189 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:52,420 - He didn't let nobody get in his way of what he wanted. 190 00:11:52,503 --> 00:11:54,922 He said he was gonna start out in nursing 191 00:11:55,005 --> 00:11:57,258 and work his way up to a doctor 192 00:11:57,341 --> 00:12:00,428 because he wanted to go overseas 193 00:12:00,511 --> 00:12:04,515 to help children that don't have doctors. 194 00:12:04,598 --> 00:12:06,350 And he would have been it. 195 00:12:06,434 --> 00:12:10,104 He would have been the best, 'cause he always... 196 00:12:10,187 --> 00:12:12,857 What he put his mind to is what he did. 197 00:12:15,192 --> 00:12:16,610 - Investigators in Hampton County 198 00:12:16,694 --> 00:12:18,362 are still piecing together clues 199 00:12:18,446 --> 00:12:19,947 after a teenager was found dead 200 00:12:20,030 --> 00:12:21,574 beside a rural road. 201 00:12:21,657 --> 00:12:23,701 They said it appears to have been a hit-and-run 202 00:12:23,784 --> 00:12:25,870 that killed 19-year-old Stephen Smith. 203 00:12:25,953 --> 00:12:28,122 - A young white male lying in the roadway 204 00:12:28,205 --> 00:12:30,708 with severe head trauma. 205 00:12:32,710 --> 00:12:34,503 - I was a first sergeant. 206 00:12:34,587 --> 00:12:37,715 I received a call early in the morning, 207 00:12:37,798 --> 00:12:39,300 before my shift started, 208 00:12:39,383 --> 00:12:43,012 saying, "We think there's been a hit-and-run 209 00:12:43,095 --> 00:12:45,139 involving a pedestrian." 210 00:12:45,222 --> 00:12:47,933 When I get on scene, the Sheriff's Department 211 00:12:48,017 --> 00:12:50,019 is already there. 212 00:12:50,102 --> 00:12:52,730 So is the coroner. 213 00:12:52,813 --> 00:12:54,190 I looked at his injuries. 214 00:12:54,273 --> 00:12:56,692 I walked the scene to look for vehicle parts. 215 00:12:57,568 --> 00:12:59,987 I mean, that road, essentially, was clean. 216 00:13:00,070 --> 00:13:01,614 Nothing on it... 217 00:13:01,697 --> 00:13:05,701 No parts, no glass, no fragments, no anything. 218 00:13:05,784 --> 00:13:08,370 I was confident when I left, 219 00:13:08,454 --> 00:13:10,623 this is not a wreck. 220 00:13:10,706 --> 00:13:12,291 This is murder. 221 00:13:14,376 --> 00:13:18,214 No one has ever, that I worked with on the Highway Patrol, 222 00:13:18,297 --> 00:13:20,424 think this is a hit-and-run. 223 00:13:20,508 --> 00:13:22,343 But the Sheriff's Department and the coroner, 224 00:13:22,426 --> 00:13:25,012 they saying it is a wreck, 225 00:13:25,095 --> 00:13:27,223 and the only reason it's a wreck, 226 00:13:27,306 --> 00:13:31,685 according to them, is because his body was in the road. 227 00:13:31,769 --> 00:13:32,811 No other evidence. 228 00:13:34,939 --> 00:13:38,234 We are the ones that specialize in wrecks, 229 00:13:38,317 --> 00:13:40,778 not Sheriff's Department, 230 00:13:40,861 --> 00:13:42,071 not the coroner, 231 00:13:42,154 --> 00:13:43,989 but they essentially refused 232 00:13:44,073 --> 00:13:46,367 to take the case back 233 00:13:46,450 --> 00:13:49,036 and investigate it as foul play. 234 00:13:50,204 --> 00:13:52,248 When you think of what's going on, 235 00:13:52,331 --> 00:13:54,124 that seems like... 236 00:13:54,208 --> 00:13:56,168 somebody's trying to cover something up. 237 00:14:06,303 --> 00:14:09,557 - That morning when they found Stephen, 238 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,308 Joel, Stephen's dad, 239 00:14:11,392 --> 00:14:14,937 was called in to go to the Sheriff's Department at... 240 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:17,940 Like, 8:00. 241 00:14:18,023 --> 00:14:22,736 And then before the sheriff came in, 242 00:14:22,820 --> 00:14:25,573 Randy Murdaugh was calling. 243 00:14:26,991 --> 00:14:31,287 He was doing a workman's comp claim for Joel, 244 00:14:31,370 --> 00:14:34,748 and so he called Joel 245 00:14:34,832 --> 00:14:37,501 and offered to investigate. 246 00:14:37,585 --> 00:14:39,878 All he wanted was his electronics, 247 00:14:39,962 --> 00:14:42,131 his passwords, his Facebook, 248 00:14:42,214 --> 00:14:43,882 and he didn't ask any questions, 249 00:14:43,966 --> 00:14:46,552 just, "I just need those electronics." 250 00:14:46,635 --> 00:14:48,512 It just didn't make no sense. 251 00:14:48,596 --> 00:14:51,015 And then when I was going to the funeral home 252 00:14:51,098 --> 00:14:52,558 to set up arrangements, 253 00:14:52,641 --> 00:14:55,686 I seen Randy Murdaugh and Alex Murdaugh 254 00:14:55,769 --> 00:15:00,441 on the scene where Stephen's body was. 255 00:15:00,524 --> 00:15:04,153 Stephen's body left the roadway at 9:30, 256 00:15:04,236 --> 00:15:07,448 and it had to be about... 257 00:15:07,531 --> 00:15:11,785 10:30, 11:00 the same day. 258 00:15:11,869 --> 00:15:14,079 - I heard Randy Murdaugh went to the scene, 259 00:15:14,163 --> 00:15:15,664 and Joel said that he told him 260 00:15:15,748 --> 00:15:18,000 that he'll represent him for free. 261 00:15:18,083 --> 00:15:21,587 But why was he there in the first place? 262 00:15:21,670 --> 00:15:24,423 How did he know... 263 00:15:24,506 --> 00:15:26,008 that Stephen was killed? 264 00:15:27,384 --> 00:15:29,637 - PMPED, by and large, 265 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,473 made money as a personal injury firm. 266 00:15:32,556 --> 00:15:37,645 Why would they want to help Stephen Smith's family 267 00:15:37,728 --> 00:15:39,813 with a death investigation? 268 00:15:39,897 --> 00:15:41,565 You wouldn't put yourself out there 269 00:15:41,649 --> 00:15:44,360 to try to help or damage control a situation, 270 00:15:44,443 --> 00:15:47,071 like it kind of seemed that Randy was doing, 271 00:15:47,154 --> 00:15:48,947 unless you're trying to save your own family 272 00:15:49,031 --> 00:15:50,157 from something. 273 00:15:51,659 --> 00:15:55,621 - The Murdaugh law firm did have an investigator show up. 274 00:15:55,704 --> 00:15:57,623 After a couple days had gone by, 275 00:15:57,706 --> 00:16:00,000 we're out there still trying to comb that scene 276 00:16:00,084 --> 00:16:01,502 to try to find something 277 00:16:01,585 --> 00:16:03,003 because no other law enforcement 278 00:16:03,087 --> 00:16:05,381 is willing to help. 279 00:16:05,464 --> 00:16:07,508 He shows up with a camera 280 00:16:07,591 --> 00:16:09,385 and wants to come in the crime scene. 281 00:16:10,552 --> 00:16:12,888 I said, "I'm sorry. You can't come in here." 282 00:16:12,971 --> 00:16:14,598 I told him if he wanted to take pictures, 283 00:16:14,682 --> 00:16:17,685 he could take them after we were gone. 284 00:16:17,768 --> 00:16:19,168 But it wasn't about taking pictures. 285 00:16:19,228 --> 00:16:21,855 It was about seeing what we were doing 286 00:16:21,939 --> 00:16:24,441 to try to get one step ahead. 287 00:16:24,525 --> 00:16:25,960 It's the only thing that makes sense to me. 288 00:16:25,984 --> 00:16:27,277 If you wanted pictures, 289 00:16:27,361 --> 00:16:29,196 you could have got those at any time. 290 00:16:30,155 --> 00:16:33,367 Makes you wonder, is Murdaugh involved in that? 291 00:16:43,293 --> 00:16:44,795 - The Stephens case... 292 00:16:44,878 --> 00:16:46,380 We know very little 293 00:16:46,463 --> 00:16:48,340 or at least, certainly, publicly. 294 00:16:49,466 --> 00:16:52,302 His body was found in the middle of the road. 295 00:16:52,386 --> 00:16:55,264 He had blunt force trauma to his head. 296 00:16:55,347 --> 00:16:57,474 They were able to locate his car, 297 00:16:57,558 --> 00:16:58,976 which was several miles away, 298 00:16:59,059 --> 00:17:00,686 parked on the side of the road. 299 00:17:00,769 --> 00:17:03,230 The car was not running. 300 00:17:03,313 --> 00:17:06,233 The gas cap was off and hanging, 301 00:17:06,316 --> 00:17:09,862 the implication being that he was walking home 302 00:17:09,945 --> 00:17:11,905 to his father's house. 303 00:17:11,989 --> 00:17:15,325 The pathologist had issued a report 304 00:17:15,409 --> 00:17:17,703 that it was a hit-and-run. 305 00:17:17,786 --> 00:17:20,247 She said that the reason she thought it was a hit-and-run 306 00:17:20,330 --> 00:17:22,583 is 'cause his body was found in the road. 307 00:17:27,421 --> 00:17:30,758 - When they told me that Stephen got hit by a car, 308 00:17:30,841 --> 00:17:35,679 You know, I told them, I said, "No, he couldn't have." 309 00:17:38,015 --> 00:17:39,600 Growing up, me and Stephen, 310 00:17:39,683 --> 00:17:41,435 we walked the roads all the time. 311 00:17:41,518 --> 00:17:43,020 It didn't matter what time it was. 312 00:17:43,103 --> 00:17:44,563 We'd sneak out the house 313 00:17:44,646 --> 00:17:48,317 and walk down our rural country road 314 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,110 3:00, 4:00 in the morning. 315 00:17:50,194 --> 00:17:52,446 If a car came, we would jump in the woods. 316 00:17:52,529 --> 00:17:55,657 You know, we were more afraid of what was on the road 317 00:17:55,741 --> 00:17:57,910 than what was in the woods, 318 00:17:57,993 --> 00:17:59,345 'cause Stephen always said, you know, 319 00:17:59,369 --> 00:18:02,122 nobody's gonna kidnap his sexy behind. 320 00:18:02,206 --> 00:18:04,750 So we always just... 321 00:18:04,833 --> 00:18:06,585 We were cautious. 322 00:18:11,965 --> 00:18:13,550 - Stephen was different. 323 00:18:13,634 --> 00:18:15,636 When he got to high school, 324 00:18:15,719 --> 00:18:17,471 that's when people started noticing 325 00:18:17,554 --> 00:18:19,306 that he wasn't like them. 326 00:18:20,349 --> 00:18:24,061 - The family knew ever since Stephen was a little 327 00:18:24,144 --> 00:18:27,981 that he would possibly come out as being gay, 328 00:18:28,065 --> 00:18:30,192 but he never really told anybody. 329 00:18:30,275 --> 00:18:35,322 We just knew, so we just accepted, you know, who he was. 330 00:18:35,405 --> 00:18:36,824 That didn't make a difference. 331 00:18:36,907 --> 00:18:39,034 You know, Stephen was still Stephen. 332 00:18:39,868 --> 00:18:40,868 - It was hard. 333 00:18:40,911 --> 00:18:42,120 I mean, he couldn't, like, 334 00:18:42,204 --> 00:18:43,872 really go out and be hisself. 335 00:18:43,956 --> 00:18:48,877 Hampton was such a small, prejudiced community. 336 00:18:48,961 --> 00:18:51,129 So he got bullied a little bit, 337 00:18:51,213 --> 00:18:53,215 but he never let it bother him. 338 00:18:55,050 --> 00:18:57,594 - Being gay is... 339 00:18:57,678 --> 00:19:00,055 the worst thing to be around here. 340 00:19:00,138 --> 00:19:01,640 They gonna shun you. 341 00:19:01,723 --> 00:19:03,100 You get shut out the community, 342 00:19:03,183 --> 00:19:05,519 and people talk about you so bad. 343 00:19:06,937 --> 00:19:09,189 - You can't feel safe in a little county. 344 00:19:09,273 --> 00:19:10,899 You can't feel safe, 345 00:19:10,983 --> 00:19:14,027 because everybody knows your name, 346 00:19:14,111 --> 00:19:16,280 and everybody knows your business. 347 00:19:17,698 --> 00:19:20,993 - The coming out process is really hard to describe, 348 00:19:21,076 --> 00:19:24,079 and straight people will never understand it. 349 00:19:24,163 --> 00:19:26,915 The looking and checking yourself, 350 00:19:26,999 --> 00:19:28,542 "Am I being noticed?" 351 00:19:28,625 --> 00:19:31,420 The scanning the room to see whether there's danger. 352 00:19:31,503 --> 00:19:33,714 A young man like Stephen, who may have been 353 00:19:33,797 --> 00:19:36,091 more openly effeminate, 354 00:19:36,174 --> 00:19:39,136 he probably did that on a constant basis. 355 00:19:41,972 --> 00:19:44,683 - Stephen opened the door for a lot of kids our age 356 00:19:44,766 --> 00:19:48,395 to come out and be proud of being different. 357 00:19:48,478 --> 00:19:52,983 He helped other people come out about being gay or bisexual 358 00:19:53,066 --> 00:19:56,737 even when it was hard at home to be accepted. 359 00:19:56,820 --> 00:19:58,572 He was the strong one coming up. 360 00:19:58,655 --> 00:20:01,241 Like, it's okay to be different. 361 00:20:01,325 --> 00:20:03,577 Not everybody has to like you. 362 00:20:03,660 --> 00:20:06,288 - Stephen put his own crown on his head, 363 00:20:06,371 --> 00:20:08,665 and he wore it proudly. 364 00:20:08,749 --> 00:20:10,459 I think he liked standing out. 365 00:20:12,878 --> 00:20:14,379 - I've always taught my children, 366 00:20:14,463 --> 00:20:17,591 you be who you are and what you are. 367 00:20:17,674 --> 00:20:22,346 You don't have to explain nothing to me. 368 00:20:22,429 --> 00:20:25,140 But Stephen had to be different 369 00:20:25,223 --> 00:20:28,101 because he had to hide more... 370 00:20:28,185 --> 00:20:31,939 Not from us but from other people. 371 00:20:33,273 --> 00:20:36,985 - South Carolina, like every state in the country, 372 00:20:37,069 --> 00:20:38,904 homophobia is not gone. 373 00:20:38,987 --> 00:20:43,033 I mean, it's there, and I think every young person 374 00:20:43,116 --> 00:20:45,911 who is coming out, one of their greatest fears 375 00:20:45,994 --> 00:20:49,164 is that they'll be the victim of a crime of violence. 376 00:20:51,041 --> 00:20:52,292 - This is Corporal Duncan, 377 00:20:52,376 --> 00:20:54,127 South Carolina Highway Patrol MAIT OC. 378 00:20:54,211 --> 00:20:58,423 Case number on this will be CL-062-15. 379 00:20:58,507 --> 00:21:01,551 It's a reference to a collision in Hampton County 380 00:21:01,635 --> 00:21:03,845 on Sandy Run Road. 381 00:21:03,929 --> 00:21:06,682 There was not a whole lot done in that investigation 382 00:21:06,765 --> 00:21:10,310 until, you know, MAIT became involved. 383 00:21:10,394 --> 00:21:12,729 We are an investigative unit 384 00:21:12,813 --> 00:21:16,566 specifically in the area of car accidents. 385 00:21:16,650 --> 00:21:19,528 As far as evidence here, there's only evidence 386 00:21:19,611 --> 00:21:21,989 of where the body was found. 387 00:21:22,072 --> 00:21:27,160 There's no parts to a car or truck or any other vehicle. 388 00:21:27,244 --> 00:21:30,330 I also took pictures of the body at the mortuary. 389 00:21:30,414 --> 00:21:32,457 There is some scrapes and scratches 390 00:21:32,541 --> 00:21:35,043 on his left and right arm, on his knuckles, 391 00:21:35,127 --> 00:21:36,545 some across his face. 392 00:21:36,628 --> 00:21:40,632 But his injuries pertain to his head area. 393 00:21:40,716 --> 00:21:43,510 Does not appear to be, in my opinion, 394 00:21:43,593 --> 00:21:45,846 struck by a vehicle. 395 00:21:45,929 --> 00:21:48,640 There were several red flags from the start 396 00:21:48,724 --> 00:21:50,183 in this investigation. 397 00:21:50,267 --> 00:21:54,021 Things that were not there should have been there. 398 00:21:54,104 --> 00:21:56,440 For example, there's no glass. 399 00:21:56,523 --> 00:21:58,859 With that type of force, there would be glass 400 00:21:58,942 --> 00:22:01,194 on the ground or possibly in the body. 401 00:22:01,278 --> 00:22:02,654 There's no tire marks. 402 00:22:02,738 --> 00:22:04,698 There was no paint from the vehicle, 403 00:22:04,781 --> 00:22:06,241 no oil transfer. 404 00:22:06,324 --> 00:22:08,160 The phone didn't even fall out of his pocket. 405 00:22:08,243 --> 00:22:09,661 Phone didn't shatter. 406 00:22:09,745 --> 00:22:11,621 The way the body's laying in the roadway... 407 00:22:11,705 --> 00:22:13,290 There's no tumble to the body. 408 00:22:13,373 --> 00:22:16,418 The blood itself, it's just a pool of blood. 409 00:22:16,501 --> 00:22:18,754 When you have a body that is hit by a car 410 00:22:18,837 --> 00:22:20,964 traveling at 55 miles an hour, 411 00:22:21,048 --> 00:22:22,799 they're gonna tumble down the road, 412 00:22:22,883 --> 00:22:24,634 so why aren't there spots 413 00:22:24,718 --> 00:22:26,845 in different areas of the roadway? 414 00:22:26,928 --> 00:22:29,473 - Generally, if a pedestrian is hit, 415 00:22:29,556 --> 00:22:31,391 they don't keep their shoes on. 416 00:22:31,475 --> 00:22:34,394 This guy still had his shoes on. 417 00:22:34,478 --> 00:22:36,855 He really didn't have type of injuries 418 00:22:36,938 --> 00:22:41,902 you would see when somebody lands violently in the road. 419 00:22:41,985 --> 00:22:46,573 It essentially looked as though he was dropped there. 420 00:23:29,950 --> 00:23:33,328 - His vehicle was three miles from where he was at. 421 00:23:33,411 --> 00:23:35,956 Because it was classified as a hit-and-run, 422 00:23:36,039 --> 00:23:40,961 it was never dusted for prints or tested for DNA. 423 00:23:41,044 --> 00:23:43,797 - When they said that he ran out of gas, 424 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,591 I'm like, "He had a phone. 425 00:23:46,675 --> 00:23:48,135 "He could have called me. 426 00:23:48,218 --> 00:23:50,387 He's called me plenty of times." 427 00:23:51,388 --> 00:23:53,306 - The car was out of gas, 428 00:23:53,390 --> 00:23:55,201 but did somebody go out there and drain the gas 429 00:23:55,225 --> 00:23:57,018 and make it look like it was out of gas? 430 00:23:57,102 --> 00:23:59,312 Or was it really legit out of gas? 431 00:23:59,396 --> 00:24:03,150 - Why would you unscrew the gas cap 432 00:24:03,233 --> 00:24:05,277 and not put gas in the car? 433 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:09,156 And the fact that he left his wallet in the car? 434 00:24:10,490 --> 00:24:13,410 - If you're walking to go get gas, 435 00:24:13,493 --> 00:24:15,912 why did you leave your money in the car? 436 00:24:16,788 --> 00:24:18,165 And if he was gonna get gas, 437 00:24:18,248 --> 00:24:19,833 he was walking in the wrong direction. 438 00:24:24,045 --> 00:24:26,464 - There was so much about the wallet, 439 00:24:26,548 --> 00:24:28,550 the phone, the car. 440 00:24:28,633 --> 00:24:30,677 Why wouldn't you just stay with the car, 441 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,012 make a phone call? 442 00:24:32,095 --> 00:24:34,181 It did not make any sense. 443 00:24:34,264 --> 00:24:36,558 It was very frustrating from the start, 444 00:24:36,641 --> 00:24:38,351 because it's like a puzzle. 445 00:24:38,435 --> 00:24:40,729 But we were missing a whole lot of pieces 446 00:24:40,812 --> 00:24:42,814 that we should have not been missing. 447 00:24:59,247 --> 00:25:01,291 - Me and my older brother, 448 00:25:01,374 --> 00:25:04,794 we went to the funeral home 449 00:25:06,588 --> 00:25:11,426 and seen Stephen in the morgue. 450 00:25:18,475 --> 00:25:20,602 It wasn't my brother. 451 00:25:23,647 --> 00:25:25,690 His face was gone. 452 00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:37,619 He was so beautiful on one side, 453 00:25:37,702 --> 00:25:40,664 but then the other side, you couldn't even tell. 454 00:25:50,924 --> 00:25:54,594 When we made arrangements, I told my mom and dad, 455 00:25:54,678 --> 00:25:56,638 "I don't want to offend anybody, 456 00:25:56,721 --> 00:26:00,767 but I do want to leave the casket open." 457 00:26:00,850 --> 00:26:04,104 I was like, "If that's the last time I got to see my brother, 458 00:26:04,187 --> 00:26:05,939 "it's gonna be the last time everybody else 459 00:26:06,022 --> 00:26:07,524 "has to see my brother 460 00:26:07,607 --> 00:26:10,360 so they can live with what I have to live with." 461 00:26:11,861 --> 00:26:14,614 Just like Emmett Till's mother, 462 00:26:14,698 --> 00:26:16,366 I wanted to... 463 00:26:16,449 --> 00:26:18,743 pretty much make that same remark. 464 00:26:18,827 --> 00:26:22,080 Like, "Look what they did to my brother. 465 00:26:22,163 --> 00:26:24,291 "You just left him in the middle of the road 466 00:26:24,374 --> 00:26:27,460 like a piece of trash, like he didn't matter." 467 00:26:27,544 --> 00:26:30,964 And my dad, he couldn't handle it. 468 00:26:31,047 --> 00:26:33,425 When we had the service, 469 00:26:33,508 --> 00:26:36,011 he didn't go near him, 'cause he just... 470 00:26:36,094 --> 00:26:41,099 He couldn't bear seeing his... 471 00:26:41,182 --> 00:26:42,434 son like that. 472 00:26:46,730 --> 00:26:49,941 - I wanted everybody to see what they did to my child. 473 00:26:52,986 --> 00:26:54,988 'Cause somebody did this. 474 00:27:33,777 --> 00:27:35,487 - As we started the investigation, 475 00:27:35,570 --> 00:27:37,614 we were pretty much starting with nothing 476 00:27:37,697 --> 00:27:40,033 except for a body and a car. 477 00:27:40,116 --> 00:27:41,993 So we started where we thought 478 00:27:42,077 --> 00:27:43,953 we needed to, you know, with friends, 479 00:27:44,037 --> 00:27:46,039 last person who talked with Stephen. 480 00:27:52,128 --> 00:27:53,588 - It was very frustrating, 481 00:27:53,671 --> 00:27:55,548 because people that you wanted to talk with 482 00:27:55,632 --> 00:27:58,551 wouldn't talk with you or just avoided you altogether. 483 00:27:58,635 --> 00:28:02,138 They would say, "Well, this is a small community. 484 00:28:02,222 --> 00:28:03,890 You don't understand." 485 00:28:15,652 --> 00:28:18,071 I had known about the Murdaughs 486 00:28:18,154 --> 00:28:21,324 through years of being in law enforcement. 487 00:28:21,408 --> 00:28:22,784 The Murdaughs were very supportive 488 00:28:22,867 --> 00:28:25,036 of law enforcement and first responders, 489 00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:27,747 so I knew that they were a very powerful family 490 00:28:27,831 --> 00:28:29,290 in that area. 491 00:28:45,181 --> 00:28:47,225 - When their name started coming up, 492 00:28:47,308 --> 00:28:50,061 I knew immediately, okay, 493 00:28:50,145 --> 00:28:52,647 we need to talk with others about this. 494 00:28:57,569 --> 00:29:00,113 - The Murdaughs have had so much control of that area 495 00:29:00,196 --> 00:29:01,614 for so long, you know, 496 00:29:01,698 --> 00:29:04,451 they've built a relative empire. 497 00:29:04,534 --> 00:29:08,204 They have, you know, friends, connections everywhere. 498 00:29:09,497 --> 00:29:11,458 - That's the political aspect of it, 499 00:29:11,541 --> 00:29:14,127 making sure that you take care of the people 500 00:29:14,210 --> 00:29:15,587 who take care of you. 501 00:29:15,670 --> 00:29:17,130 Let them know, say, "Hey, you know, 502 00:29:17,213 --> 00:29:19,299 "you're part of this family, this institution, 503 00:29:19,382 --> 00:29:21,885 "and we want to make sure that we continue 504 00:29:21,968 --> 00:29:24,429 "to do the things that's gonna empower us 505 00:29:24,512 --> 00:29:28,141 "to maintain dominance in not only this community 506 00:29:28,224 --> 00:29:31,102 but in this region and statewide. 507 00:29:31,186 --> 00:29:32,479 - It's a whole network. 508 00:29:32,562 --> 00:29:33,980 They can pick up the phone and call 509 00:29:34,063 --> 00:29:36,232 and somebody will do them a favor, 510 00:29:36,316 --> 00:29:38,276 make some phone calls for them, 511 00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:39,777 things like that, so... 512 00:29:39,861 --> 00:29:42,572 And that's just kind of how it is around here. 513 00:29:43,448 --> 00:29:45,325 - This direct line to law enforcement 514 00:29:45,408 --> 00:29:48,828 and the legal system in general in Hampton County 515 00:29:48,912 --> 00:29:50,997 is so direct that the Murdaughs 516 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,874 knew of Stephen's death before, probably, 517 00:29:52,957 --> 00:29:55,460 some of even Stephen Smith's family members did. 518 00:29:55,543 --> 00:29:58,546 I mean, it just makes it seem like there was something 519 00:29:58,630 --> 00:30:01,799 that the Murdaughs knew that investigators 520 00:30:01,883 --> 00:30:03,301 or the public didn't know. 521 00:30:16,606 --> 00:30:19,817 - Our investigators went around and talked to these people. 522 00:30:19,901 --> 00:30:21,653 And they said, "Yes, we heard these things." 523 00:30:21,736 --> 00:30:25,782 Well, a lot of these people disappeared after that. 524 00:30:25,865 --> 00:30:27,242 They didn't answer their phone. 525 00:30:27,325 --> 00:30:28,743 They weren't at their residence. 526 00:30:28,826 --> 00:30:30,054 It was as though some of these people 527 00:30:30,078 --> 00:30:33,206 just upped and left town. 528 00:30:42,257 --> 00:30:44,467 - There was talk some of these people were paid 529 00:30:44,551 --> 00:30:47,470 to leave town, paid vacation, 530 00:30:47,554 --> 00:30:50,682 that they were incentivized to not be available, 531 00:30:50,765 --> 00:30:54,102 to not present possible evidence 532 00:30:54,185 --> 00:30:57,146 that would lead to an answer. 533 00:30:59,691 --> 00:31:02,402 - Regular people don't want to talk about this 534 00:31:02,485 --> 00:31:03,570 if they know them. 535 00:31:03,653 --> 00:31:04,946 They're afraid of something, 536 00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:07,448 whether it's retaliation physically, 537 00:31:07,532 --> 00:31:09,492 whether it's monetarily, 538 00:31:09,576 --> 00:31:11,452 whether they could do something to their job, 539 00:31:11,536 --> 00:31:13,246 to their position, to their family. 540 00:31:43,026 --> 00:31:44,193 - I don't want to drag 541 00:31:44,277 --> 00:31:45,421 somebody's name through the mud 542 00:31:45,445 --> 00:31:46,904 unless it's necessary. 543 00:31:46,988 --> 00:31:49,449 In this case, the Murdaughs' name was brought up 544 00:31:49,532 --> 00:31:52,577 at least a dozen times, possibly more. 545 00:31:52,660 --> 00:31:57,123 So when you have that name constantly brought up, 546 00:31:57,206 --> 00:31:59,292 you know, you have to take it serious. 547 00:33:10,738 --> 00:33:12,782 - I went to school with Buster, 548 00:33:12,865 --> 00:33:15,535 and when we were younger, 549 00:33:15,618 --> 00:33:17,203 Stephen played baseball 550 00:33:17,286 --> 00:33:21,082 with Buster and a few classmates. 551 00:33:21,165 --> 00:33:23,418 And Buster's grandfather and dad 552 00:33:23,501 --> 00:33:25,586 were the coaches of the team. 553 00:33:27,046 --> 00:33:30,758 He was... how do I put it? 554 00:33:30,842 --> 00:33:34,554 Like, you could tell he had money 555 00:33:34,637 --> 00:33:36,723 by the way he acted, 556 00:33:36,806 --> 00:33:38,307 kind of, like, privileged 557 00:33:38,391 --> 00:33:41,477 but not like a snobby privileged person. 558 00:33:42,770 --> 00:33:44,939 He was quiet when I was around him. 559 00:33:45,773 --> 00:33:47,817 - Yeah, I don't really know Buster that well. 560 00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:49,986 I mean, we see him, you know, 561 00:33:50,069 --> 00:33:52,613 whenever he's down with John or that sort of thing, but... 562 00:33:52,697 --> 00:33:54,323 - That's very rare. - Right. 563 00:33:54,407 --> 00:33:55,950 I mean, I haven't had conversations 564 00:33:56,033 --> 00:33:57,577 about his life goals 565 00:33:57,660 --> 00:34:00,455 or where he sees himself in 20 years. 566 00:34:01,497 --> 00:34:03,916 - You just don't really hear a lot about Buster. 567 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,419 He's Paul's older brother. 568 00:34:06,502 --> 00:34:10,256 He went to Wofford College in South Carolina. 569 00:34:10,339 --> 00:34:15,261 He was kind of slated to follow in his father's footsteps. 570 00:34:16,053 --> 00:34:19,682 - Paul and Buster were night and day, 571 00:34:19,766 --> 00:34:21,309 Jacob and Esau. 572 00:34:22,185 --> 00:34:24,437 Paul was the outdoor guy. 573 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:29,942 Buster liked to hunt, but he was a studious person 574 00:34:30,026 --> 00:34:32,528 and took his studies seriously. 575 00:34:32,612 --> 00:34:35,323 And what I'm told by people who were close to him, 576 00:34:35,406 --> 00:34:37,658 you know, that Buster was the... 577 00:34:37,742 --> 00:34:40,495 Buster was the favorite child. 578 00:35:00,556 --> 00:35:03,309 - We found a document for seniors at Wofford 579 00:35:03,392 --> 00:35:04,536 you know, saying where they're going, 580 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,062 and he said he was gonna work 581 00:35:06,145 --> 00:35:08,022 for the family law firm in the summer 582 00:35:08,105 --> 00:35:12,151 and then go to the University of South Carolina Law School. 583 00:35:12,235 --> 00:35:15,988 We don't really know what happened after that. 584 00:35:16,072 --> 00:35:18,324 - He kind of just disappeared, 585 00:35:18,407 --> 00:35:20,368 like, after everything happened with Stephen. 586 00:35:20,451 --> 00:35:22,537 Like, you didn't hear about him. 587 00:35:22,620 --> 00:35:24,497 He was like a ghost. 588 00:35:26,249 --> 00:35:28,000 - I would kind of check his Facebook, 589 00:35:28,084 --> 00:35:30,127 and I would never see no activity anymore. 590 00:35:30,211 --> 00:35:31,629 Like, no activity. 591 00:35:31,712 --> 00:35:34,215 And then they said that he went away for school. 592 00:35:34,298 --> 00:35:36,175 He went out the country. 593 00:35:37,593 --> 00:35:39,679 - When we started investigating Stephen, 594 00:35:39,762 --> 00:35:41,806 where he's been or who he'd been with, 595 00:35:41,889 --> 00:35:45,351 I was told by Sandy that before he died, 596 00:35:45,434 --> 00:35:47,687 Stephen was planning on going on a trip. 597 00:35:49,355 --> 00:35:52,191 - He said that he was going deep-sea fishing, 598 00:35:52,275 --> 00:35:55,027 I think, the third week in July 599 00:35:55,111 --> 00:35:57,864 with a prominent person. 600 00:35:57,947 --> 00:36:01,242 That's all he said. He wouldn't give a name. 601 00:36:01,325 --> 00:36:06,205 But he was murdered before he could go, so... 602 00:36:06,289 --> 00:36:10,084 - He said he was messing with a man 603 00:36:10,167 --> 00:36:13,170 from Hampton County that was high in power 604 00:36:13,254 --> 00:36:17,091 and that everybody would be shocked at who it was. 605 00:36:17,174 --> 00:36:18,885 I think his words were, 606 00:36:18,968 --> 00:36:21,387 "If I say who this is, 607 00:36:21,470 --> 00:36:25,182 the whole Hampton County is gonna be shook." 608 00:36:25,266 --> 00:36:28,394 - He was getting into an influential group 609 00:36:28,477 --> 00:36:29,896 at that time. 610 00:36:29,979 --> 00:36:32,356 It wasn't something typical of his past. 611 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,067 With the information that we gathered, 612 00:36:35,151 --> 00:36:36,652 you could only presume 613 00:36:36,736 --> 00:36:38,237 what name would've been brought up. 614 00:36:38,321 --> 00:36:40,990 It would possibly have been the Murdaughs. 615 00:37:16,025 --> 00:37:17,652 - One of the rumors that we heard 616 00:37:17,735 --> 00:37:19,820 was that Buster and a couple of other guys 617 00:37:19,904 --> 00:37:23,115 had been out, seen Stephen, 618 00:37:23,199 --> 00:37:26,118 and they got in some type of argument 619 00:37:26,202 --> 00:37:29,455 and that a 2x4 or a bat was used 620 00:37:29,538 --> 00:37:32,375 to strike Stephen in the head area 621 00:37:32,458 --> 00:37:36,170 and that's what caused his death. 622 00:37:43,135 --> 00:37:45,388 - Yes, and we actually looked at it, 623 00:37:45,471 --> 00:37:48,683 and it is consistent with some type of blunt force object. 624 00:37:58,943 --> 00:38:00,528 - Early on, apparently, 625 00:38:00,611 --> 00:38:04,198 there were attempts to talk to Buster. 626 00:38:04,281 --> 00:38:08,953 In the United States, we can't compel somebody 627 00:38:09,036 --> 00:38:10,538 to talk to law enforcement, 628 00:38:10,621 --> 00:38:14,625 and if somebody exercises their right to remain silent, 629 00:38:14,709 --> 00:38:17,253 there's very little law enforcement can do. 630 00:38:18,379 --> 00:38:20,089 - Buster was not making a big point 631 00:38:20,172 --> 00:38:22,591 to either be a part of the investigation 632 00:38:22,675 --> 00:38:24,927 or try to dispel rumors. 633 00:38:25,011 --> 00:38:28,264 He seemed to be extremely uninterested and uncaring, 634 00:38:28,347 --> 00:38:30,182 which also, I think, speaks to, like, 635 00:38:30,266 --> 00:38:31,517 a classic Murdaugh mentality 636 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,311 of thinking he was completely above the law 637 00:38:34,395 --> 00:38:37,857 and that ignoring the problem would make it go away. 638 00:39:09,263 --> 00:39:10,639 - There's different stories 639 00:39:10,723 --> 00:39:12,641 and different versions out there. 640 00:39:12,725 --> 00:39:14,060 I've heard Paul. 641 00:39:14,143 --> 00:39:15,561 I've heard Buster. 642 00:39:15,644 --> 00:39:17,813 Those names have been brought up numerous times 643 00:39:17,897 --> 00:39:20,149 consistently by people. 644 00:39:21,817 --> 00:39:24,195 But there's nothing we can point to and say, 645 00:39:24,278 --> 00:39:27,364 "Mm-hmm, that's what happened." 646 00:39:36,499 --> 00:39:40,586 - My family kind of separated 647 00:39:40,669 --> 00:39:43,422 after Stephen died. 648 00:39:43,506 --> 00:39:46,050 My mom took it hard. 649 00:39:46,133 --> 00:39:47,593 My dad took it real hard, 650 00:39:47,676 --> 00:39:51,514 but it was more of an in silence. 651 00:39:51,597 --> 00:39:55,101 Like, the day Stephen died was... 652 00:39:55,184 --> 00:39:58,145 the same day that my dad died inside. 653 00:40:00,397 --> 00:40:04,777 - Joel kind of just gave up on life after that. 654 00:40:04,860 --> 00:40:08,364 In his last days, he said that he was seeing... 655 00:40:08,447 --> 00:40:12,576 Stephen was coming to visit him, 656 00:40:12,660 --> 00:40:15,413 and I think he just... 657 00:40:15,496 --> 00:40:17,581 He couldn't cope. 658 00:40:22,336 --> 00:40:24,588 - It was three months exact. 659 00:40:26,048 --> 00:40:27,967 The coroner said that he passed away 660 00:40:28,050 --> 00:40:30,302 of a heart attack in his sleep. 661 00:40:32,888 --> 00:40:36,475 - I just think he just died of a broken heart. 662 00:40:52,158 --> 00:40:54,535 - I still remember seeing Joel in the casket. 663 00:40:54,618 --> 00:40:57,163 And you could just tell 664 00:40:57,246 --> 00:40:58,664 he wasn't at peace, 665 00:40:58,747 --> 00:41:00,791 'cause he wanted to know what happened to his child. 666 00:41:02,918 --> 00:41:06,046 The day he died, he told me, 667 00:41:06,130 --> 00:41:09,008 "Them Murdaughs killed my son." 668 00:41:09,091 --> 00:41:10,718 He would tell anybody. 669 00:41:10,801 --> 00:41:12,052 Or you could've asked Joel, 670 00:41:12,136 --> 00:41:13,679 "Joel, what happened to your son?" 671 00:41:13,762 --> 00:41:17,975 "The Murdaughs killed my son because he was gay." 672 00:41:18,058 --> 00:41:19,268 "How do you know?" 673 00:41:19,351 --> 00:41:20,853 "I know my son. 674 00:41:20,936 --> 00:41:23,439 I know he was seeing Buster." 675 00:41:24,815 --> 00:41:26,192 "How can you prove it?" 676 00:41:26,275 --> 00:41:28,569 "I can't, but I just know 677 00:41:28,652 --> 00:41:31,238 them Murdaugh boys killed my boy." 678 00:41:39,580 --> 00:41:41,290 - There was rumors of that. 679 00:41:42,333 --> 00:41:44,210 I don't know if it was true. 680 00:41:45,461 --> 00:41:49,632 If Buster was gay, he would have never came out about it. 681 00:41:51,133 --> 00:41:52,944 I don't think his family would've approved of it 682 00:41:52,968 --> 00:41:54,261 either, so... 683 00:41:54,345 --> 00:41:56,555 Because they are a big name. 684 00:41:59,558 --> 00:42:02,895 - Joel knew 100% in his heart it was Buster. 685 00:42:06,815 --> 00:42:09,068 - There's no need to do that. 686 00:42:09,151 --> 00:42:12,029 The police have got ties with them Murdaughs 687 00:42:12,112 --> 00:42:13,906 all the way from their great-granddad 688 00:42:13,989 --> 00:42:15,741 to their granddad to their daddy. 689 00:42:15,824 --> 00:42:18,577 They all got pull through the law. 690 00:42:18,661 --> 00:42:21,413 When they found Paul and his mama dead, 691 00:42:21,497 --> 00:42:24,250 they had everybody from Colleton County, 692 00:42:24,333 --> 00:42:27,670 Hampton County there investigating it. 693 00:42:27,753 --> 00:42:29,380 Stephen dies, 694 00:42:29,463 --> 00:42:31,548 they just put him in a body bag. 695 00:42:31,632 --> 00:42:34,677 He was hit by a car. Who cares? 696 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,554 It's that name. They got pull. 697 00:42:40,933 --> 00:42:43,269 - Being the underdogs in town, 698 00:42:43,352 --> 00:42:46,313 I guess, in their head, we're nothing, 699 00:42:46,397 --> 00:42:50,859 so who's gonna notice nothing being gone? 700 00:42:52,528 --> 00:42:55,406 - Sandy had to stand by herself 701 00:42:55,489 --> 00:42:57,408 seeking justice for Stephen 702 00:42:57,491 --> 00:42:59,118 because those in authority 703 00:42:59,201 --> 00:43:01,620 didn't feel like they were accountable to them 704 00:43:01,704 --> 00:43:04,873 to commit to solving this. 705 00:43:04,957 --> 00:43:08,085 Poor people were not treated the same in Hampton, 706 00:43:08,168 --> 00:43:11,714 and that's a tragedy not just for the victims 707 00:43:11,797 --> 00:43:13,632 but for that community. 708 00:43:15,050 --> 00:43:19,513 - I knew Stephen was not gonna get justice in Hampton County. 709 00:43:22,349 --> 00:43:24,059 Several people... 710 00:43:27,146 --> 00:43:30,441 Several families have not gotten justice 711 00:43:30,524 --> 00:43:32,234 in Hampton County. 712 00:43:58,677 --> 00:44:02,139 - After Paul and Maggie were murdered, 713 00:44:02,222 --> 00:44:04,099 SLED called my mom 714 00:44:04,183 --> 00:44:08,687 and told her that they were reopening Stephen's case. 715 00:44:08,771 --> 00:44:11,857 - For what reasons, we don't know, 716 00:44:11,940 --> 00:44:14,360 but it is back open. 717 00:44:14,443 --> 00:44:16,945 And that gives us hope. 718 00:44:17,029 --> 00:44:19,114 - I found it real curious 719 00:44:19,198 --> 00:44:22,034 when they brought up Stephen Smith. 720 00:44:22,117 --> 00:44:23,535 What did they find? 721 00:44:23,619 --> 00:44:26,205 Did they find something on a phone? 722 00:44:26,288 --> 00:44:29,500 Did they find something on the property 723 00:44:29,583 --> 00:44:34,880 that relayed Stephen Smith's death to the Murdaugh family? 724 00:44:34,963 --> 00:44:37,257 - Law enforcement hasn't released anything new 725 00:44:37,341 --> 00:44:40,803 about what led to the death of 19-year-old Stephen Smith 726 00:44:40,886 --> 00:44:43,097 or explained why the mysterious murders 727 00:44:43,180 --> 00:44:44,723 of Paul and Maggie Murdaugh 728 00:44:44,807 --> 00:44:46,850 in the Lowcountry of South Carolina 729 00:44:46,934 --> 00:44:50,646 led to his case being reopened six years later. 730 00:45:09,206 --> 00:45:11,208 - That was very surprising to me. 731 00:45:11,291 --> 00:45:14,503 There's no explanation. 732 00:45:14,586 --> 00:45:19,550 Maggie and Paul's death was so shocking, 733 00:45:19,633 --> 00:45:23,887 and as things unfolded and more information came out, 734 00:45:23,971 --> 00:45:26,682 it was so clearly an event 735 00:45:26,765 --> 00:45:29,518 in a much, much, much larger story. 736 00:45:30,477 --> 00:45:31,937 - And now to the new details 737 00:45:32,020 --> 00:45:33,581 on the deepening mystery over the shooting 738 00:45:33,605 --> 00:45:35,274 of a prominent South Carolina lawyer 739 00:45:35,357 --> 00:45:38,152 just months after his wife and son were killed. 740 00:45:38,235 --> 00:45:39,570 - South Carolina law enforcement 741 00:45:39,653 --> 00:45:41,655 announcing an arrest. 742 00:45:43,031 --> 00:45:44,616 - Curtis, you have anything to say? 743 00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:46,500 - Officers from South Carolina law enforcement 744 00:45:46,535 --> 00:45:48,954 arrested 61-year-old Curtis Smith 745 00:45:49,037 --> 00:45:51,790 for the September 4th roadside shooting. 746 00:45:51,874 --> 00:45:54,376 - Alex represented Curtis Smith, 747 00:45:54,460 --> 00:45:58,088 who was a logger who got hurt on the job. 748 00:45:58,172 --> 00:46:00,132 But he definitely didn't match 749 00:46:00,215 --> 00:46:02,176 the description of the alleged attacker. 750 00:46:10,142 --> 00:46:12,603 - I got called probably within ten minutes 751 00:46:12,686 --> 00:46:15,397 of that shooting getting reported. 752 00:46:15,481 --> 00:46:18,901 I knew instantaneously 753 00:46:18,984 --> 00:46:21,069 that Alex's story... 754 00:46:21,153 --> 00:46:23,780 Pardon my French... That was bullshit. 755 00:46:23,864 --> 00:46:26,783 - From the start, the details of the shooting 756 00:46:26,867 --> 00:46:28,368 made many suspicious. 757 00:46:28,452 --> 00:46:30,829 It happened in broad daylight along a deserted road 758 00:46:30,913 --> 00:46:34,208 when Alex Murdaugh says he was changing a flat tire. 759 00:46:34,291 --> 00:46:36,668 Now we're learning what actually happened 760 00:46:36,752 --> 00:46:39,254 may be even more unbelievable. 761 00:46:39,338 --> 00:46:40,881 - Law enforcement now believes 762 00:46:40,964 --> 00:46:43,675 Murdaugh conspired with Curtis "Eddie" Smith 763 00:46:43,759 --> 00:46:47,846 to kill him as part of an insurance fraud scheme. 764 00:46:47,930 --> 00:46:49,056 - Everything with Alex 765 00:46:49,139 --> 00:46:51,850 has just been mind-boggling, 766 00:46:51,934 --> 00:46:53,602 'cause you know someone for so long, 767 00:46:53,685 --> 00:46:57,189 and then a completely different side of them comes out. 768 00:46:57,773 --> 00:47:01,527 - Alex Murdaugh apparently asked Curtis "Eddie" Smith, 769 00:47:01,610 --> 00:47:04,988 who is friends with Alex, who has done jobs for Alex, 770 00:47:05,072 --> 00:47:08,492 to murder him so he can get the insurance money 771 00:47:08,575 --> 00:47:11,036 to give to Buster, his son. 772 00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:13,372 - If Murdaugh died, his living son 773 00:47:13,455 --> 00:47:16,208 would have received an estimated $10 million 774 00:47:16,291 --> 00:47:18,877 as part of a life insurance policy. 775 00:47:18,961 --> 00:47:22,381 - He didn't think it would pay if he committed suicide, 776 00:47:22,464 --> 00:47:25,133 so he wanted Eddie to do the job for him 777 00:47:25,217 --> 00:47:27,553 so his son would get the money. 778 00:47:27,636 --> 00:47:30,013 - When I heard about the suicide attempt, 779 00:47:30,097 --> 00:47:32,599 I didn't know if I believed it or not. 780 00:47:32,683 --> 00:47:36,228 The story about it all is kind of confusing. 781 00:47:36,311 --> 00:47:40,399 Paying someone to come shoot you and he misses? 782 00:47:41,900 --> 00:47:43,777 - Where we live, 783 00:47:43,860 --> 00:47:46,280 people don't miss. 784 00:47:46,363 --> 00:47:47,507 It don't matter if you're talking 785 00:47:47,531 --> 00:47:48,907 about a deer or a person. 786 00:47:48,991 --> 00:47:50,450 They don't miss. 787 00:47:50,534 --> 00:47:52,619 - Well, the suspect accused of shooting Alex Murdaugh 788 00:47:52,703 --> 00:47:54,288 in a failed murder fraud plot 789 00:47:54,371 --> 00:47:58,458 claims he is being set up to be the fall guy. 790 00:47:58,542 --> 00:48:01,295 - Curtis Smith says it was September 4 when his friend 791 00:48:01,378 --> 00:48:04,548 South Carolina attorney Alex Murdaugh called, 792 00:48:04,631 --> 00:48:06,174 claiming he needed help. 793 00:48:06,258 --> 00:48:08,218 Smith says Murdaugh was like a brother to him, 794 00:48:08,302 --> 00:48:11,680 so he didn't think twice before heading to meet him. 795 00:48:11,763 --> 00:48:13,640 - Alex went through all this trouble 796 00:48:13,724 --> 00:48:16,018 to establish such an insane story. 797 00:48:16,101 --> 00:48:17,603 Every single part of it, 798 00:48:17,686 --> 00:48:19,396 everything that he said that day 799 00:48:19,479 --> 00:48:20,772 ended up being a hoax. 800 00:48:20,856 --> 00:48:22,858 - Trying to say someone shot at him 801 00:48:22,941 --> 00:48:26,445 and then trying to say that it was a suicide attempt... 802 00:48:26,528 --> 00:48:29,448 I don't believe for a minute any of that. 803 00:48:29,531 --> 00:48:33,201 I think he's trying to make it look like 804 00:48:33,285 --> 00:48:35,871 he was an intended victim. 805 00:48:35,954 --> 00:48:37,956 - In a matter of hours, 806 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,833 this whole thing just changed, 807 00:48:39,916 --> 00:48:42,252 and it was just like, you shake your head, 808 00:48:42,336 --> 00:48:46,048 and what is going on with this guy? 809 00:48:46,131 --> 00:48:47,799 What else is he hiding? 810 00:48:47,883 --> 00:48:51,720 - Honestly, I think there's still a lot to come out. 811 00:48:52,888 --> 00:48:54,473 - The situation we're in right now, 812 00:48:54,556 --> 00:48:56,725 tell me how you're feeling. 813 00:49:11,198 --> 00:49:13,867 - Do you see the truth coming forward? 61496

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