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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,100 --> 00:00:04,967 [Eric] The Christian Church claims Jesus Christ 2 00:00:04,967 --> 00:00:07,867 died on the cross for our sins. 3 00:00:07,867 --> 00:00:10,166 He was a victim of crucifixion, 4 00:00:10,166 --> 00:00:12,100 one of the most savage executions 5 00:00:12,100 --> 00:00:14,000 ever invented by humans. 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,867 This is a form of punishment where 7 00:00:16,867 --> 00:00:18,700 bones were broken, 8 00:00:18,700 --> 00:00:20,600 you're covered in blood, 9 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,166 you're suspended, 10 00:00:22,166 --> 00:00:24,533 so you're finding it hard to breathe, 11 00:00:24,533 --> 00:00:29,166 you are dying in excruciating agony. 12 00:00:29,166 --> 00:00:30,367 Ahhh! 13 00:00:30,367 --> 00:00:32,166 [Eric] But could the story of Jesus 14 00:00:32,166 --> 00:00:34,734 dying on the cross be a myth? 15 00:00:34,734 --> 00:00:36,600 Archaeologically speaking, 16 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,000 crucifixion might as well have not existed. 17 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,367 The evidence is just tiny. 18 00:00:43,367 --> 00:00:45,467 It's perfectly possible that Jesus 19 00:00:45,467 --> 00:00:48,500 was not crucified on the cross. 20 00:00:48,500 --> 00:00:50,100 [Eric] What is the truth? 21 00:00:50,100 --> 00:00:54,500 Was Christ really crucified on the cross as the Bible claims? 22 00:00:54,500 --> 00:00:58,367 Or is it just a story made up by the Church? 23 00:00:58,367 --> 00:01:02,367 If Jesus did not die on the cross, it would mean that 24 00:01:02,367 --> 00:01:04,800 he may not be the Son of God. 25 00:01:22,734 --> 00:01:25,166 [Eric] At the core of Christianity 26 00:01:25,166 --> 00:01:27,266 is the crucifixion, 27 00:01:27,266 --> 00:01:30,000 the story of Jesus nailed to a cross 28 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,867 and left to die. 29 00:01:31,867 --> 00:01:35,266 But did this momentous event really happen? 30 00:01:35,266 --> 00:01:39,500 The crucifixion of Christ is probably the most famous, 31 00:01:39,500 --> 00:01:43,000 the most portrayed event in human history. 32 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,500 It's relayed to us in countless paintings, 33 00:01:46,500 --> 00:01:48,600 in movies, in books. 34 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,500 I mean, we are told every last thing 35 00:01:51,500 --> 00:01:53,433 that happened on that terrible day. 36 00:01:57,533 --> 00:02:00,734 [Eric] Considered barbaric by today's standards, 37 00:02:00,734 --> 00:02:03,166 crucifixion was part execution 38 00:02:03,166 --> 00:02:05,467 and part public spectacle. 39 00:02:05,467 --> 00:02:09,967 Crucifixion is, uh, an ancient torture technique, 40 00:02:09,967 --> 00:02:13,600 most likely begun by the Persians, 41 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,734 but it was perfected by the Romans, 42 00:02:15,734 --> 00:02:19,867 and it is effectively an impaling technique. 43 00:02:19,867 --> 00:02:24,066 Uh, it was a gross and humiliating way to die, 44 00:02:24,066 --> 00:02:26,700 and that's precisely what the Romans wanted. 45 00:02:26,700 --> 00:02:28,266 When it comes to crucifixion, 46 00:02:28,266 --> 00:02:31,367 this was not just a way of getting rid of somebody. 47 00:02:31,367 --> 00:02:33,266 It was protracted. 48 00:02:33,266 --> 00:02:36,166 It was for the public to witness. 49 00:02:36,166 --> 00:02:39,367 Really, it was a circus of death. 50 00:02:39,367 --> 00:02:42,266 [Andy] Typically, crucifixion victims would die 51 00:02:42,266 --> 00:02:45,266 over the course of hours, sometimes even days. 52 00:02:45,266 --> 00:02:48,266 And so you almost have to picture the scene 53 00:02:48,266 --> 00:02:50,166 of someone naked, 54 00:02:50,166 --> 00:02:54,600 battered, bruised and gasping for breath. 55 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,467 The body is attached to the cross. 56 00:02:56,467 --> 00:02:58,166 It's left there hanging. 57 00:02:58,166 --> 00:02:59,700 You can only imagine 58 00:02:59,700 --> 00:03:02,500 if your legs no longer could support you, 59 00:03:02,500 --> 00:03:04,600 your body would've slumped forward 60 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,000 and this would have caused the lungs to fill up with fluid. 61 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,000 You would have suffocated. 62 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,367 [indistinct background chatter] 63 00:03:12,367 --> 00:03:15,600 [Eric] Despite the gore depicted in Hollywood films, 64 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,066 historians are struggling to distinguish fact from fiction 65 00:03:19,066 --> 00:03:21,266 in the real crucifixion story. 66 00:03:21,266 --> 00:03:24,967 A lot of our understanding of crucifixion 67 00:03:24,967 --> 00:03:28,100 has been informed by Hollywood, 68 00:03:28,100 --> 00:03:31,066 by tradition, and that... 69 00:03:32,100 --> 00:03:35,266 if you were to simply look at the Gospel texts, 70 00:03:35,266 --> 00:03:37,367 could you say for sure 71 00:03:37,367 --> 00:03:39,500 that Jesus was crucified 72 00:03:39,500 --> 00:03:42,467 in the way that a lot of traditional portrayals 73 00:03:42,467 --> 00:03:44,900 of the crucifixion, um, depict? 74 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,367 [Eric] While the Church supports all four Gospels 75 00:03:49,367 --> 00:03:52,166 as factual accounts of Christ's life, 76 00:03:52,166 --> 00:03:55,100 many scholars are less convinced. 77 00:03:55,100 --> 00:03:57,467 The official line of the churches 78 00:03:57,467 --> 00:04:01,166 is that each of the Gospel writers had some connection to Jesus, 79 00:04:01,166 --> 00:04:02,266 that they knew him. 80 00:04:02,266 --> 00:04:05,166 The evidence for that is vanishingly slight. 81 00:04:05,166 --> 00:04:08,266 The four Gospels just aren't historical documents. 82 00:04:08,266 --> 00:04:11,367 They probably weren't written by the people whose names are on them. 83 00:04:11,367 --> 00:04:14,066 They were written by communities and teams over time. 84 00:04:14,066 --> 00:04:17,166 And they were written much later, generations later. 85 00:04:17,166 --> 00:04:21,066 [Peter] The Gospels were written between 60 A.D. 86 00:04:21,066 --> 00:04:23,533 and, um, a 100 plus A.D. 87 00:04:23,533 --> 00:04:26,867 We have no conclusive evidence 88 00:04:26,867 --> 00:04:28,867 that the Gospels are written by people 89 00:04:28,867 --> 00:04:31,233 who had actually stood in Jesus's presence. 90 00:04:35,500 --> 00:04:37,867 [Eric] Stockholm, Sweden. 91 00:04:37,867 --> 00:04:41,367 While hunting for the origin of the crucifixion legend, 92 00:04:41,367 --> 00:04:43,467 theologist, Gunnar Samuelsson, 93 00:04:43,467 --> 00:04:46,734 has spent almost ten years scouring the earliest records 94 00:04:46,734 --> 00:04:49,367 of this execution technique. 95 00:04:49,367 --> 00:04:52,266 Uh, my research into the crucifixion, 96 00:04:52,266 --> 00:04:54,100 it began with, uh, 97 00:04:54,100 --> 00:04:55,734 reading a book, of course, 98 00:04:55,734 --> 00:04:59,266 searching for a text about crucifixions. 99 00:05:00,533 --> 00:05:02,967 [Eric] Gunnar studied every ancient manuscript 100 00:05:02,967 --> 00:05:05,867 he could find referencing crucifixion, 101 00:05:05,867 --> 00:05:09,600 the oldest of which dates back to the ninth century B.C. 102 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,166 It was a painstaking work. 103 00:05:11,166 --> 00:05:13,066 I was Indiana Jones. 104 00:05:13,066 --> 00:05:15,600 You know, you never know what will be in the next text. 105 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,467 I was trying desperately 106 00:05:17,467 --> 00:05:20,500 to find information about crucifixions. 107 00:05:20,500 --> 00:05:22,967 [Eric] After searching through manuscripts in Greek, 108 00:05:22,967 --> 00:05:25,266 Latin, Hebrew, and Aramaic, 109 00:05:25,266 --> 00:05:27,634 to his shock, Gunnar discovered 110 00:05:27,634 --> 00:05:29,367 that these ancient texts 111 00:05:29,367 --> 00:05:32,634 didn't describe crucifixion as we understand it today. 112 00:05:33,634 --> 00:05:35,367 I started to realize that 113 00:05:35,367 --> 00:05:37,634 in these texts you have a problem. 114 00:05:38,367 --> 00:05:39,867 [Eric] The problem was 115 00:05:39,867 --> 00:05:42,500 that none of the texts mention a cross, 116 00:05:42,500 --> 00:05:47,266 which today many consider the key implement of crucifixion. 117 00:05:47,266 --> 00:05:52,166 So, uh, when did the, the symbol of the cross came from? 118 00:05:52,166 --> 00:05:56,000 [Eric] Turning to a non-biblical text from ancient Greece, 119 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,266 Gunnar found a detailed description 120 00:05:58,266 --> 00:06:00,467 of the execution technique, 121 00:06:00,467 --> 00:06:03,900 but it suggested a cross may not have been used at all. 122 00:06:06,467 --> 00:06:09,166 The only use is, this verb stavron, 123 00:06:09,166 --> 00:06:11,367 which means Essen... essentially means 124 00:06:11,367 --> 00:06:15,066 to sus... to suspend, a suspension, a general suspension. 125 00:06:16,166 --> 00:06:18,500 [Eric] Today, the word crucifixion 126 00:06:18,500 --> 00:06:21,734 has become synonymous with the cross. 127 00:06:21,734 --> 00:06:24,467 Yet if Gunnar's research is correct, 128 00:06:24,467 --> 00:06:27,600 the word evolved from the Greek term, stavron, 129 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,634 which has no direct link to a shape. 130 00:06:30,634 --> 00:06:34,100 Since the New Testament was first written in Greek, 131 00:06:34,100 --> 00:06:36,600 this finding could mean that the symbology 132 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,734 at the very heart of the Christian Church 133 00:06:38,734 --> 00:06:40,500 is not accurate. 134 00:06:40,500 --> 00:06:42,700 Greek texts of the New Testament said 135 00:06:42,700 --> 00:06:45,100 that Jesus was stavron. 136 00:06:45,100 --> 00:06:47,066 Only that. No details. 137 00:06:47,066 --> 00:06:49,266 No information of how it looked like. 138 00:06:49,266 --> 00:06:52,166 So, the text of the New Testament 139 00:06:52,166 --> 00:06:54,166 said that Jesus was suspended. 140 00:06:54,166 --> 00:06:56,100 In my mind, it's not crucifixion, 141 00:06:56,100 --> 00:06:57,900 it's suspension of corpses. 142 00:07:00,867 --> 00:07:02,867 All words evolve over time. 143 00:07:02,867 --> 00:07:05,166 Nowadays we see stavron as, meaning crucifixion 144 00:07:05,166 --> 00:07:06,634 because of what's in the Bible. 145 00:07:06,634 --> 00:07:09,100 But actually, originally it just meant to suspend 146 00:07:09,100 --> 00:07:11,500 and it meant to suspend in a vast variety of ways, 147 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:14,166 possibly on a stake, on a pail, on a tree. 148 00:07:14,166 --> 00:07:16,367 In one text, it's even used to describe 149 00:07:16,367 --> 00:07:18,266 a dog being spitted on a spear. 150 00:07:18,266 --> 00:07:20,500 It was a very broad word. 151 00:07:20,500 --> 00:07:24,166 [Eric] The possibility that a key part of the crucifixion story 152 00:07:24,166 --> 00:07:25,634 is incorrect 153 00:07:25,634 --> 00:07:28,166 is unthinkable to many in the Church. 154 00:07:28,700 --> 00:07:30,600 But perhaps it helps explain 155 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,367 one of the peculiarities of the modern Bible, 156 00:07:33,367 --> 00:07:36,600 why the cross is barely referenced. 157 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,600 [Andy] The cross isn't really mentioned in the Bible, 158 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,867 and therefore it's perfectly possible 159 00:07:41,867 --> 00:07:46,100 that Jesus was not crucified on a cross structure. 160 00:07:47,734 --> 00:07:51,600 [Eric] In an attempt to find the truth in the biblical story, 161 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,367 Gunnar turned to the Codex Sinaiticus, 162 00:07:54,367 --> 00:07:57,000 the world's oldest complete Bible 163 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,266 written in the fourth century A.D. 164 00:08:00,266 --> 00:08:03,867 But in this manuscript, he found another mystery. 165 00:08:03,867 --> 00:08:06,066 [Gunnar] So if you go to Codex Sinaiticus, 166 00:08:06,066 --> 00:08:07,500 you will get one surprise, 167 00:08:07,500 --> 00:08:09,467 you have the death of Jesus. 168 00:08:09,467 --> 00:08:11,600 So they have Jesus suspended, 169 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,467 and then... 170 00:08:13,467 --> 00:08:16,967 it says that someone took a spear 171 00:08:16,967 --> 00:08:19,734 and he punched the side of Jesus. 172 00:08:19,734 --> 00:08:22,066 And Codex Sinaiticus 173 00:08:22,066 --> 00:08:25,867 have an addition, Jesus shouted out loud... 174 00:08:25,867 --> 00:08:27,100 -Ahhh! -...and died. 175 00:08:27,100 --> 00:08:30,967 He was, uh, killed by a Roman spear. 176 00:08:30,967 --> 00:08:33,367 [Eric] The modern Bible does mention Jesus 177 00:08:33,367 --> 00:08:35,867 being pierced by a Roman spear, 178 00:08:35,867 --> 00:08:40,700 but it only happens after Christ has already died on the cross. 179 00:08:40,700 --> 00:08:44,266 Why would a detail as crucial as this be left out? 180 00:08:45,734 --> 00:08:49,166 I mean, isn't it a bit strange that for some reason 181 00:08:49,166 --> 00:08:52,867 this reference to a Roman spear 182 00:08:52,867 --> 00:08:55,467 being a cause of the death of Jesus 183 00:08:55,467 --> 00:08:59,166 is removed from later versions of the Bible? 184 00:09:00,467 --> 00:09:02,967 [Eric] Whether killed by a Roman spear 185 00:09:02,967 --> 00:09:05,166 or just suspended, 186 00:09:05,166 --> 00:09:07,100 Gunnar's research casts doubt 187 00:09:07,100 --> 00:09:10,000 over the whole crucifixion narrative. 188 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,266 But today, 189 00:09:11,266 --> 00:09:13,533 Christian iconography is centered around 190 00:09:13,533 --> 00:09:15,467 the symbol of the cross, 191 00:09:15,467 --> 00:09:18,066 which surprisingly is not documented 192 00:09:18,066 --> 00:09:21,367 until centuries after the death of Jesus. 193 00:09:21,367 --> 00:09:23,367 The symbol of the cross, I... 194 00:09:23,367 --> 00:09:27,266 It appears to be of a little later date. 195 00:09:27,266 --> 00:09:29,734 [Janina] The crucifixion actually doesn't appear 196 00:09:29,734 --> 00:09:32,000 in Christian art till about the fifth century, 197 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,734 so that's, um, four or five centuries after the event. 198 00:09:36,734 --> 00:09:39,734 [Eric] The story of the cross appears to have some roots 199 00:09:39,734 --> 00:09:42,100 in fourth century Jerusalem, 200 00:09:42,100 --> 00:09:44,100 where according to Roman legend, 201 00:09:44,100 --> 00:09:47,600 it was discovered where Christ was crucified. 202 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,000 It's where archeologist, Bena Mantel 203 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,634 is hunting for answers. 204 00:09:52,734 --> 00:09:55,533 So we're standing outside the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. 205 00:09:55,533 --> 00:09:57,734 And for the majority of the Christians of the world, 206 00:09:57,734 --> 00:10:01,100 this is the place of the crucifixion. 207 00:10:01,100 --> 00:10:05,700 [Eric] Is this really the spot where Jesus died on the cross? 208 00:10:05,700 --> 00:10:08,533 What actually happened on that day? 209 00:10:12,867 --> 00:10:15,166 At the foundation of Christianity 210 00:10:15,166 --> 00:10:18,333 is the story of Jesus dying on the cross. 211 00:10:19,100 --> 00:10:20,533 But is this the truth? 212 00:10:21,100 --> 00:10:23,166 Is that really how Jesus died? 213 00:10:25,166 --> 00:10:28,100 Retracing Christ's last steps, 214 00:10:28,100 --> 00:10:30,166 Bena Mantel is in Jerusalem 215 00:10:30,166 --> 00:10:32,367 at the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. 216 00:10:32,367 --> 00:10:35,634 So for the majority of the Christians of the world, 217 00:10:35,634 --> 00:10:38,800 this is it, this is the place of the crucifixion. 218 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,634 The foundation of Christianity really 219 00:10:41,634 --> 00:10:44,233 is linked to this place right here. 220 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,634 [Eric] According to legend, 221 00:10:46,634 --> 00:10:49,166 this church was built on the spot 222 00:10:49,166 --> 00:10:51,467 where Jesus's cross was discovered. 223 00:10:51,467 --> 00:10:54,100 [Bena] So the church is built in the fourth century 224 00:10:54,100 --> 00:10:57,600 by Helena, mother of emperor Constantine. 225 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,367 [Eric] As the first Roman emperor to convert to Christianity, 226 00:11:01,367 --> 00:11:04,266 Constantine wanted to seize holy relics 227 00:11:04,266 --> 00:11:06,367 to bring power to his empire. 228 00:11:06,367 --> 00:11:09,900 [Andy] Constantine seconded his mother, Helena, 229 00:11:09,900 --> 00:11:12,266 uh, in about the year 326 230 00:11:12,266 --> 00:11:15,800 to go and find the site of Jesus's crucifixion. 231 00:11:16,900 --> 00:11:18,166 [Eric] Legend has it 232 00:11:18,166 --> 00:11:21,266 that Helena set out on a pilgrimage to Jerusalem. 233 00:11:22,266 --> 00:11:24,100 Once in the Holy Land, 234 00:11:24,100 --> 00:11:25,600 she was taken to the site 235 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,166 where the locals claim Jesus was crucified. 236 00:11:28,900 --> 00:11:31,734 What she found there was a Roman temple. 237 00:11:31,734 --> 00:11:34,367 They'd built a temple to Roman Gods on, on the site. 238 00:11:34,367 --> 00:11:37,266 But because she was the emperor's mother, she could have it removed. 239 00:11:37,266 --> 00:11:39,634 The excavations were carried out there 240 00:11:39,634 --> 00:11:43,000 and they found various fragments of a cross. 241 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,367 [Eric] Believers claim the wooden fragments 242 00:11:45,367 --> 00:11:49,166 were from the Latin cross used to crucify Jesus. 243 00:11:49,166 --> 00:11:54,100 A long, tall cross with a shorter crossbar towards the top. 244 00:11:54,100 --> 00:11:57,100 The Church of the Holy Sepulchre was built on the spot 245 00:11:57,100 --> 00:11:58,900 where it was supposedly found. 246 00:11:59,900 --> 00:12:01,367 Today, the site attracts 247 00:12:01,367 --> 00:12:03,634 thousands of tourists and pilgrims, 248 00:12:03,634 --> 00:12:05,467 many coming to see the stone 249 00:12:05,467 --> 00:12:08,533 where Christ's dead body was apparently laid. 250 00:12:09,867 --> 00:12:12,367 So this is the anointing stone. 251 00:12:12,367 --> 00:12:14,867 The body has to be taken off the cross 252 00:12:14,867 --> 00:12:16,533 anointed with oil, 253 00:12:16,533 --> 00:12:18,100 and then it is covered in shrouds. 254 00:12:18,100 --> 00:12:21,533 And from here it goes into the burial cave. 255 00:12:21,533 --> 00:12:24,266 Pilgrims from all over the world will actually come 256 00:12:24,266 --> 00:12:27,266 and put their precious possessions 257 00:12:27,266 --> 00:12:31,100 and consecrate them on this rock. 258 00:12:31,100 --> 00:12:35,166 [Eric] The Church claims that as well as being the site of the crucifixion, 259 00:12:35,166 --> 00:12:37,634 it's also the place of the resurrection. 260 00:12:38,467 --> 00:12:42,000 Inside the church is a tiny sacred crypt 261 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,266 where some believe this miracle happened. 262 00:12:46,367 --> 00:12:48,166 [Bena] This is the Chapel of the Angel, 263 00:12:48,166 --> 00:12:50,367 which is the first room 264 00:12:50,367 --> 00:12:52,900 where the rolling stone was rolled out. 265 00:12:52,900 --> 00:12:55,533 And the tradition is that this rock 266 00:12:55,533 --> 00:12:57,367 that you're seeing here is a fragment 267 00:12:57,367 --> 00:12:59,467 from the original rolling stone, 268 00:12:59,467 --> 00:13:01,367 and then the inner room 269 00:13:01,367 --> 00:13:04,066 has the stone bed where Jesus was laid. 270 00:13:07,166 --> 00:13:10,467 You can see a little bit of iconography, but of course, 271 00:13:10,467 --> 00:13:12,367 as a commemoration site, 272 00:13:12,367 --> 00:13:14,000 this is the place of the miracle. 273 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,000 From here, Jesus was resurrected. 274 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,166 [Eric] For many, this is enough 275 00:13:19,166 --> 00:13:22,867 to confirm the church as the spot where Jesus died. 276 00:13:22,867 --> 00:13:25,634 So do I think that the Church of the Holy Sepulchre 277 00:13:25,634 --> 00:13:27,533 is the place of the crucifixion? 278 00:13:27,533 --> 00:13:28,867 If you're asking me personally, 279 00:13:28,867 --> 00:13:31,166 without a shred of doubt. 280 00:13:31,166 --> 00:13:35,166 [Eric] Despite its fame and 1,700 years of tradition, 281 00:13:35,166 --> 00:13:37,900 some questioned this church's authenticity. 282 00:13:39,100 --> 00:13:40,800 [Andy] The Church of the Holy Sepulchre, 283 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,533 being the site of Jesus's crucifixion, 284 00:13:43,533 --> 00:13:46,367 is really based on speculation. 285 00:13:46,367 --> 00:13:48,900 There is no direct evidence 286 00:13:48,900 --> 00:13:51,734 that Jesus was crucified at that particular site. 287 00:13:51,734 --> 00:13:54,600 [Eric] Disbelievers in the site's authenticity 288 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,600 point to Jewish tradition, 289 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,900 which considers corpses impure. 290 00:13:59,900 --> 00:14:02,266 This means that in ancient Jerusalem, 291 00:14:02,266 --> 00:14:04,166 crucifixions and burials 292 00:14:04,166 --> 00:14:07,533 took place outside of the city limits. 293 00:14:07,533 --> 00:14:09,734 Yet some claim the Holy Sepulchre 294 00:14:09,734 --> 00:14:13,634 is inside the ancient city walls. 295 00:14:13,634 --> 00:14:14,867 [Bena] We know for a fact 296 00:14:14,867 --> 00:14:17,166 that Jews wouldn't be executed within the city. 297 00:14:17,166 --> 00:14:18,800 In other words, 298 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,266 the church could not have been inside the city 299 00:14:22,266 --> 00:14:26,166 if it is built on the location of the crucifixion. 300 00:14:27,266 --> 00:14:29,867 Part of the dilemma with the location 301 00:14:29,867 --> 00:14:32,100 of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre 302 00:14:32,100 --> 00:14:34,100 is that its outer sections 303 00:14:34,100 --> 00:14:36,600 may have been within the walls of the city. 304 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,266 [Eric] Although the city boundaries 305 00:14:38,266 --> 00:14:41,100 from the biblical era are unclear, 306 00:14:41,100 --> 00:14:45,000 a surprising event revealed something unexpected. 307 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,166 In 1808, the Church of the Holy Sepulchre 308 00:14:48,166 --> 00:14:50,266 was ravaged by fire. 309 00:14:51,166 --> 00:14:52,900 [Bena] The fire did reveal something. 310 00:14:53,900 --> 00:14:55,166 This hole here. 311 00:14:55,166 --> 00:14:59,000 And inside, we can actually see that we're seeing a corner 312 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,467 of a Jewish burial site. 313 00:15:01,467 --> 00:15:03,100 And based on the cutting techniques 314 00:15:03,100 --> 00:15:05,634 and based on the architectural style 315 00:15:05,634 --> 00:15:07,100 of this burial site, 316 00:15:07,100 --> 00:15:10,166 we can date it back to the times of Christ. 317 00:15:10,166 --> 00:15:12,734 In other words, I cannot say for a fact 318 00:15:12,734 --> 00:15:14,166 that the Church of the Holy Sepulchre 319 00:15:14,166 --> 00:15:16,100 is the burial place of Jesus, 320 00:15:16,100 --> 00:15:18,367 but what I can say, without a shred of doubt, 321 00:15:18,367 --> 00:15:21,900 is that 2000 years ago, Jews are buried here. 322 00:15:21,900 --> 00:15:23,734 [Eric] For this to have been a Jewish tomb 323 00:15:23,734 --> 00:15:25,367 at the time of Christ, 324 00:15:25,367 --> 00:15:28,166 it must have been outside of the city walls 325 00:15:28,166 --> 00:15:32,734 and therefore could have been the site of the crucifixion after all. 326 00:15:32,734 --> 00:15:34,533 Yet, despite the evidence, 327 00:15:34,533 --> 00:15:37,166 some scholars still have their doubts. 328 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,100 To me, the Holy Sepulchre has never quite rung true 329 00:15:42,100 --> 00:15:44,100 as the site for the crucifixion. 330 00:15:44,100 --> 00:15:47,467 Apart from anything else, it's just all a bit too convenient. 331 00:15:47,467 --> 00:15:50,867 The site of the crucifixion, the site of the Tomb of Jesus 332 00:15:50,867 --> 00:15:52,734 in exactly the same spot, 333 00:15:52,734 --> 00:15:55,800 I think most people who visited the Holy Sepulchre 334 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,734 have had this sneaking feeling 335 00:15:57,734 --> 00:15:59,867 that it isn't the site of the crucifixion. 336 00:16:03,467 --> 00:16:05,533 There is another possibility 337 00:16:05,533 --> 00:16:08,700 for a site where Jesus may have been crucified, 338 00:16:08,700 --> 00:16:11,000 and that is called Golgotha, 339 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,867 which means, the skull. 340 00:16:13,867 --> 00:16:15,800 [Eric] Meaning skull in Aramaic, 341 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,634 many believe the name Golgotha is a clue, 342 00:16:18,634 --> 00:16:23,333 as the Bible describes Jesus being crucified on Skull Hill. 343 00:16:24,100 --> 00:16:26,900 Since the 19th century, some Protestants 344 00:16:26,900 --> 00:16:30,000 have claimed that a skull shaped hill 345 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,166 just outside the Damascus gate in Jerusalem 346 00:16:33,166 --> 00:16:37,100 is a more credible site for the crucifixion of Jesus. 347 00:16:37,100 --> 00:16:39,634 And there are some compelling reasons for that. 348 00:16:39,634 --> 00:16:42,800 I mean, for one, the situation is ideal. 349 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,433 It's definitely outside the city walls. 350 00:16:46,266 --> 00:16:48,000 [Eric] Without solid evidence, 351 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,000 the exact location of Christ's death 352 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,100 will remain a mystery. 353 00:16:53,100 --> 00:16:55,367 Although the Church of the Holy Sepulchre 354 00:16:55,367 --> 00:16:59,166 is supposedly built on the spot where the cross was found, 355 00:16:59,166 --> 00:17:02,100 other archeological evidence for crucifixion 356 00:17:02,100 --> 00:17:04,266 is near non-existent. 357 00:17:04,266 --> 00:17:07,166 Today, we think of crucifixions 358 00:17:07,166 --> 00:17:11,533 as a very common execution during the Roman period. 359 00:17:11,533 --> 00:17:13,734 However, there's very little 360 00:17:13,734 --> 00:17:17,000 archeological evidence we've ever uncovered. 361 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,700 [Eric] According to the Roman era 362 00:17:18,700 --> 00:17:21,000 Jewish historian, Josephus, 363 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,900 up to 500 people a day were crucified 364 00:17:23,900 --> 00:17:26,266 in the Jerusalem region. 365 00:17:26,266 --> 00:17:28,367 But despite this high number, 366 00:17:28,367 --> 00:17:30,367 it's a mystery why such little 367 00:17:30,367 --> 00:17:34,100 archeological evidence exists. 368 00:17:34,100 --> 00:17:35,900 Archaeologically speaking, 369 00:17:35,900 --> 00:17:40,166 the evidence for crucifixion is just tiny. 370 00:17:40,166 --> 00:17:44,166 It is minuscule in comparison to the number of individuals 371 00:17:44,166 --> 00:17:48,100 that we have reason to believe suffered this fate. 372 00:17:48,100 --> 00:17:50,467 [Eric] Yet at Tel Aviv University, 373 00:17:50,467 --> 00:17:52,000 there lies a crucial clue 374 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,367 to solving the mystery of this ancient execution technique. 375 00:17:56,367 --> 00:18:00,166 Physical evidence of an actual historical crucifixion. 376 00:18:05,100 --> 00:18:07,533 Whenever I pull out the box from the safe, 377 00:18:07,533 --> 00:18:09,634 I'm getting excited. 378 00:18:09,634 --> 00:18:14,066 It's one of the rare find that I've ever encountered. 379 00:18:15,166 --> 00:18:17,900 [Eric] Discovered in 1968, 380 00:18:17,900 --> 00:18:21,433 this heel still has the nail stuck in the bone. 381 00:18:22,533 --> 00:18:24,634 Crucially, like Jesus, 382 00:18:24,634 --> 00:18:26,467 its victim was Jewish 383 00:18:26,467 --> 00:18:29,900 and crucified around the same time. 384 00:18:29,900 --> 00:18:33,900 Could this relic solve one of the world's greatest mysteries? 385 00:18:33,900 --> 00:18:36,533 Did Christ die on the cross? 386 00:18:40,367 --> 00:18:43,533 When Christ was crucified on the cross, 387 00:18:43,533 --> 00:18:45,533 the world changed forever. 388 00:18:46,467 --> 00:18:48,867 According to texts from the Roman era, 389 00:18:48,867 --> 00:18:52,066 thousands of people died by this execution method. 390 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,533 Yet, despite its infamy, 391 00:18:54,533 --> 00:18:56,700 evidence for the horrific technique 392 00:18:56,700 --> 00:18:58,867 is nearly non-existent. 393 00:18:58,867 --> 00:19:02,600 Professor Israel Hershkovitz of Tel Aviv University 394 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,367 has been studying the first archeological evidence 395 00:19:05,367 --> 00:19:08,266 of crucifixion ever found. 396 00:19:08,266 --> 00:19:12,734 It has been scientifically dated back to the time of Jesus. 397 00:19:12,734 --> 00:19:14,367 [Israel] This is the only evidence 398 00:19:14,367 --> 00:19:16,500 that we have for crucifixion. 399 00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:19,600 What we see here actually is the heel bone. 400 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,867 It's almost a complete heel bone. 401 00:19:21,867 --> 00:19:25,734 And we see an iron nail actually running 402 00:19:25,734 --> 00:19:28,867 and penetrating from this side of the heel bone 403 00:19:28,867 --> 00:19:31,500 coming out from the opposite side. 404 00:19:31,500 --> 00:19:34,066 Archeologists really put these remains 405 00:19:34,066 --> 00:19:36,166 through the wringer and conclusively 406 00:19:36,166 --> 00:19:40,166 have decided that, this is an example of crucifixion. 407 00:19:40,166 --> 00:19:42,266 And it's stunningly important 408 00:19:42,266 --> 00:19:46,266 because it does prove that crucifixion was practiced 409 00:19:46,266 --> 00:19:48,900 during this time period in the Roman Empire. 410 00:19:49,734 --> 00:19:52,500 [Eric] Since its discovery in 1968, 411 00:19:52,500 --> 00:19:55,000 in an ancient Jewish crypt, 412 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,500 only a handful of remains 413 00:19:56,500 --> 00:20:00,367 from other suspected crucifixion victims have been found, 414 00:20:00,367 --> 00:20:02,867 but none have stood up to the scrutiny 415 00:20:02,867 --> 00:20:05,166 of this heel bone. 416 00:20:05,166 --> 00:20:07,367 [Dominic] The extraordinary thing about the discovery 417 00:20:07,367 --> 00:20:12,100 was that it has a bone with a nail still going through it. 418 00:20:12,100 --> 00:20:15,266 This was the first time this had ever been discovered, 419 00:20:15,266 --> 00:20:17,066 and it proves at least 420 00:20:17,066 --> 00:20:19,600 that the Romans did crucify with nails. 421 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,100 [Eric] Before this incredible find, 422 00:20:22,100 --> 00:20:24,500 historians were under the impression 423 00:20:24,500 --> 00:20:26,500 that most crucifixion victims 424 00:20:26,500 --> 00:20:29,266 weren't permitted a proper burial. 425 00:20:29,266 --> 00:20:32,634 It was thought their bodies were either left to rot where they hung 426 00:20:32,634 --> 00:20:35,367 or were buried in a shallow grave. 427 00:20:35,367 --> 00:20:36,867 If that were the case, 428 00:20:36,867 --> 00:20:39,000 it would contradict the Bible's claim that 429 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,000 Jesus's body was placed in a tomb. 430 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,734 Yet this bone was found in an ossuary 431 00:20:44,734 --> 00:20:46,867 in an ancient Jewish crypt. 432 00:20:46,867 --> 00:20:49,266 [Israel] We know that the name of the deceased, 433 00:20:49,266 --> 00:20:52,600 Johanan, the name was engraved on the side of the, 434 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,634 uh, of the o... ossuary 435 00:20:54,634 --> 00:20:58,500 in a Hebrew letter that we can even read today. 436 00:20:58,500 --> 00:21:01,700 [Eric] Since Johanan was granted funeral rites, 437 00:21:01,700 --> 00:21:04,734 it proves that a part of the Bible's crucifixion story 438 00:21:04,734 --> 00:21:06,500 could be true, 439 00:21:06,500 --> 00:21:08,734 that Jesus was placed in a tomb 440 00:21:08,734 --> 00:21:12,600 after his body was removed from the cross. 441 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:13,867 [Dominic] Johanan and his bones 442 00:21:13,867 --> 00:21:16,467 are unbelievably important for us, 443 00:21:16,467 --> 00:21:20,100 because not only was he crucified by the Romans, 444 00:21:20,100 --> 00:21:22,266 but he was crucified by the Romans 445 00:21:22,266 --> 00:21:23,867 in the same place as Jesus, 446 00:21:23,867 --> 00:21:26,500 in the same century as Jesus. 447 00:21:26,500 --> 00:21:30,367 [Karen] This find in Jerusalem is critically important 448 00:21:30,367 --> 00:21:32,634 in our consideration of whether, 449 00:21:32,634 --> 00:21:35,166 like, the story of Jesus that we read in the Bible 450 00:21:35,166 --> 00:21:36,500 could have been true. 451 00:21:36,500 --> 00:21:38,066 They're both prominent Jews. 452 00:21:38,066 --> 00:21:40,000 They were given proper burials. 453 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,533 So, it's not as if this case of Jesus is just an anomaly. 454 00:21:44,533 --> 00:21:46,500 [Tony] This bone of Johanan 455 00:21:46,500 --> 00:21:50,166 could finally tell us what really happened 456 00:21:50,166 --> 00:21:52,634 that day to Jesus Christ. 457 00:21:57,166 --> 00:22:00,700 [Eric] Analysis of the heel reveals another clue, 458 00:22:00,700 --> 00:22:02,734 the remains of a piece of wood. 459 00:22:02,734 --> 00:22:05,166 [Tony] One particularly gruesome detail 460 00:22:05,166 --> 00:22:08,166 is that there appears to be a small piece of wood 461 00:22:08,166 --> 00:22:10,266 under the head of the nail 462 00:22:10,266 --> 00:22:13,000 that would have stopped the person from 463 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,700 wriggling free off the cross. 464 00:22:15,700 --> 00:22:18,734 The piece of the wood that was actually 465 00:22:18,734 --> 00:22:20,867 lying between the head of the nail 466 00:22:20,867 --> 00:22:23,266 and the surface of the heel 467 00:22:23,266 --> 00:22:25,500 was made of an olive tree. 468 00:22:25,500 --> 00:22:27,266 It's... it's interesting because, uh, 469 00:22:27,266 --> 00:22:29,700 according to the tradition, 470 00:22:29,700 --> 00:22:33,367 the cross was made of olive tree. 471 00:22:33,367 --> 00:22:35,734 [Eric] Historical accounts of crucifixion 472 00:22:35,734 --> 00:22:40,166 offer no conclusive answer for the type of wood used. 473 00:22:40,166 --> 00:22:42,166 But when fragments of the cross 474 00:22:42,166 --> 00:22:43,967 supposedly found by Helena 475 00:22:43,967 --> 00:22:46,166 in the fourth century were tested, 476 00:22:46,166 --> 00:22:48,100 they were found to be olive wood, 477 00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:49,734 leading to modern day theories 478 00:22:49,734 --> 00:22:52,500 that this wood was used for crucifixions. 479 00:22:52,500 --> 00:22:56,100 While Johanan's bone supports this theory, 480 00:22:56,100 --> 00:22:57,867 for Professor Hershkovitz, 481 00:22:57,867 --> 00:23:00,367 it strikes a blow to the possibility 482 00:23:00,367 --> 00:23:03,100 that Jesus died on a Latin cross. 483 00:23:04,266 --> 00:23:06,367 Olive tree, as we all know, 484 00:23:06,367 --> 00:23:09,166 doesn't have a full body of a tree. 485 00:23:09,166 --> 00:23:11,634 It's, it's a trunk, it's all penetrated 486 00:23:11,634 --> 00:23:14,166 and distorted and, and so on. 487 00:23:14,166 --> 00:23:18,367 And you cannot create a long log from an olive tree. 488 00:23:18,367 --> 00:23:22,367 [Eric] The Latin cross is made from huge wooden planks, 489 00:23:22,367 --> 00:23:25,500 the type that's nearly impossible to produce from olive wood. 490 00:23:25,500 --> 00:23:28,166 One thing that's really important to consider, 491 00:23:28,166 --> 00:23:29,867 uh, which is easy to forget, 492 00:23:29,867 --> 00:23:35,700 is that wood of a sufficient size to support a human body 493 00:23:35,700 --> 00:23:37,266 would have been in scarce supply 494 00:23:37,266 --> 00:23:39,333 in the region of the Holy Land. 495 00:23:40,867 --> 00:23:46,066 [Eric] So if Christ was not crucified on a tall Latin cross, 496 00:23:46,066 --> 00:23:48,800 what actually happened on that day? 497 00:23:52,734 --> 00:23:55,734 The concept of Jesus dying on the cross 498 00:23:55,734 --> 00:23:57,734 is at the center of Christianity. 499 00:23:58,900 --> 00:24:01,000 Professor Israel Hershkovitz 500 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,100 has spent over a decade studying crucifixion 501 00:24:04,100 --> 00:24:08,900 and questions the symbology at the heart of the religion. 502 00:24:08,900 --> 00:24:11,266 I don't think that it was a T-shaped cross. 503 00:24:11,266 --> 00:24:13,100 I mean, it really doesn't make sense. 504 00:24:13,100 --> 00:24:15,900 Not from, from the evidence that we have, 505 00:24:15,900 --> 00:24:19,266 and not from a simple anatomic logic. 506 00:24:19,266 --> 00:24:22,467 [Eric] To determine how Jesus was hung on the cross, 507 00:24:22,467 --> 00:24:27,100 Professor Hershkovitz has studied artworks of the crucifixion. 508 00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:29,166 He believes the position of the body 509 00:24:29,166 --> 00:24:31,000 in relation to the crossbar, 510 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,000 depicted in many portraits, 511 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,734 makes the Latin cross an impossibility. 512 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,634 Usually the crossbar 513 00:24:38,634 --> 00:24:42,634 was placed according to only construction against the neck. 514 00:24:43,533 --> 00:24:45,467 [Eric] While many paintings portray 515 00:24:45,467 --> 00:24:48,867 Christ's hands nailed to the front of the cross, 516 00:24:48,867 --> 00:24:51,100 Professor Hershkovitz believes this would not have 517 00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:52,634 supported the weight of his body 518 00:24:52,634 --> 00:24:55,166 for the entire crucifixion. 519 00:24:55,166 --> 00:24:56,700 Therefore, he believes 520 00:24:56,700 --> 00:25:02,000 Jesus's arms must have been positioned behind the crossbar. 521 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,700 The hands are running actually behind the crossbar. 522 00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:07,734 So try to do it. 523 00:25:07,734 --> 00:25:09,000 You see it's impossible. 524 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,166 You n... You need to twist the whole body, 525 00:25:11,166 --> 00:25:13,000 and it's still impossible. 526 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,867 I have to, to take it down, very down, 527 00:25:15,867 --> 00:25:19,467 almost to, to, to the center of the back over here, 528 00:25:19,467 --> 00:25:22,100 for him to be able actually to hold, 529 00:25:22,100 --> 00:25:25,533 to hold the crossbar from the opposite side, 530 00:25:25,533 --> 00:25:28,166 and nobody would say that this is the way 531 00:25:28,166 --> 00:25:30,467 the Roman crucified people. 532 00:25:30,467 --> 00:25:35,100 [Eric] Is this the final nail in the coffin for the Latin cross? 533 00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:38,533 Perhaps another shape could unravel this enigma. 534 00:25:38,533 --> 00:25:40,000 I believe that the, uh, 535 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,166 the only cross that makes sense 536 00:25:43,166 --> 00:25:45,734 and follow the evidence, the hard evidence 537 00:25:45,734 --> 00:25:47,734 is the X-shaped cross. 538 00:25:47,734 --> 00:25:50,467 Now, for another example, 539 00:25:50,467 --> 00:25:52,867 let's say it was an X-shaped cross. 540 00:25:52,867 --> 00:25:55,533 In an X-shaped cross, put your hand 541 00:25:55,533 --> 00:25:58,367 and put the palm of the hand at the back. You see? 542 00:25:58,367 --> 00:26:02,867 This is the way he hold the, the X... X-shaped cross. 543 00:26:02,867 --> 00:26:06,867 [Eric] For many, the simplicity of the X-shaped cross 544 00:26:06,867 --> 00:26:10,734 makes it a viable solution for the crucifixion mystery. 545 00:26:10,734 --> 00:26:13,900 I think that the theory that by using 546 00:26:13,900 --> 00:26:17,634 smaller pieces of wood affixed together in an X shape, 547 00:26:17,634 --> 00:26:19,533 rather than the big long pole, 548 00:26:19,533 --> 00:26:21,266 actually makes a lot of sense. 549 00:26:21,266 --> 00:26:23,900 Like, you know, the fact is you can't conjure 550 00:26:23,900 --> 00:26:26,467 natural resources out of thin air. 551 00:26:26,467 --> 00:26:29,166 The X-shaped cross is perfectly credible. 552 00:26:29,166 --> 00:26:33,533 It may be that people were nailed to a tree in an X shape 553 00:26:33,533 --> 00:26:35,266 or there were two pieces of wood 554 00:26:35,266 --> 00:26:37,900 that just happened to be attached to each other 555 00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:41,100 and they were just used because it suited the purpose. 556 00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:44,166 [Eric] Astonishingly, historical records show 557 00:26:44,166 --> 00:26:49,000 that the X-shaped cross has been used in crucifixions. 558 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,533 One of Jesus's disciples, Andrew, 559 00:26:51,533 --> 00:26:53,467 the patron saint of Scotland, 560 00:26:53,467 --> 00:26:56,000 was crucified in this way. 561 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,100 The X shape is remembered today on the country's flag. 562 00:27:00,100 --> 00:27:02,700 But if Jesus was crucified like this, 563 00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:05,900 why is the most fundamental symbol of Christianity 564 00:27:05,900 --> 00:27:10,100 a Latin cross and not an X? 565 00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:12,800 Maybe the oldest known depiction of the death of Christ 566 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,634 found in Rome can help solve the mystery. 567 00:27:16,634 --> 00:27:19,000 The earliest record of Jesus being crucified 568 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,000 is most likely the Alexamenos graffito. 569 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,634 Now, this was an etching 570 00:27:23,634 --> 00:27:26,100 on the edge of the Palatine Hill. 571 00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:30,367 And the etching depicts a crucifixion victim 572 00:27:30,367 --> 00:27:32,000 with the head of a donkey 573 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,166 and, uh, a young worshiper at the bottom with the, 574 00:27:35,166 --> 00:27:38,867 the inscription, "Alex worships his God". 575 00:27:38,867 --> 00:27:42,867 Now this was clearly a, a, a kind of mockery. 576 00:27:42,867 --> 00:27:46,000 This graffiti dates back to 200 A.D. 577 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,266 and at this point in time, 578 00:27:48,266 --> 00:27:51,867 Christianity was still not... 579 00:27:51,867 --> 00:27:55,166 a religion to be respected in Rome. 580 00:27:55,166 --> 00:27:57,166 [Dominic] It shows that at that date 581 00:27:57,166 --> 00:27:59,634 there were many people who ridiculed Jesus. 582 00:27:59,634 --> 00:28:02,367 They didn't see him as this great and important figure. 583 00:28:02,367 --> 00:28:05,266 They were poking fun by putting a donkey's head on him. 584 00:28:05,266 --> 00:28:08,000 But in Rome, where people really did know 585 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,533 what crucifixions looked like, 586 00:28:09,533 --> 00:28:11,867 they depict it with a T-shaped cross. 587 00:28:11,867 --> 00:28:14,367 [Eric] This graffiti appears to show Jesus 588 00:28:14,367 --> 00:28:16,166 being crucified on a shape 589 00:28:16,166 --> 00:28:18,467 very close to the Latin cross. 590 00:28:18,467 --> 00:28:20,000 The graffiti from Italy 591 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,467 provides pretty compelling evidence 592 00:28:22,467 --> 00:28:27,166 that Christ probably was hung on some form of cross, 593 00:28:27,166 --> 00:28:28,900 because this is an insult. 594 00:28:28,900 --> 00:28:30,734 This is a parody. 595 00:28:30,734 --> 00:28:34,000 Why include that detail if it's simply not true? 596 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,467 [Karen] This is a political statement from its time, 597 00:28:37,467 --> 00:28:41,634 but it also is a really interesting reinforcement 598 00:28:41,634 --> 00:28:46,000 of the story of the crucifixion that we read in the Bible. 599 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,266 [Eric] Does this graffiti finally prove 600 00:28:48,266 --> 00:28:51,533 that Jesus died on the Latin cross? 601 00:28:51,533 --> 00:28:54,800 While many scholars need more conclusive evidence, 602 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,100 some point to a passage in the crucifixion story, 603 00:28:58,100 --> 00:29:02,367 which might be able to be backed up by science. 604 00:29:02,367 --> 00:29:04,600 There is one thing in the Bible 605 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,634 that could help to identify the time and place of the crucifixion, 606 00:29:08,634 --> 00:29:10,734 and that's an earthquake. 607 00:29:16,166 --> 00:29:18,066 [Eric] The crucifixion of Christ 608 00:29:18,066 --> 00:29:20,867 was an event that shook the world. 609 00:29:20,867 --> 00:29:22,734 Scholars have spent centuries 610 00:29:22,734 --> 00:29:26,600 trying to scientifically prove the biblical story. 611 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,066 Like so much of what is written in the Bible, 612 00:29:29,066 --> 00:29:33,867 it's very hard to disentangle hard fact from faith. 613 00:29:33,867 --> 00:29:37,600 But one piece of that story of Jesus's crucifixion 614 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,266 absolutely could have been true. 615 00:29:40,266 --> 00:29:43,533 And that is the report of an earthquake, 616 00:29:43,533 --> 00:29:46,100 at the time Jesus died. 617 00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:47,734 As the Bible tells it, 618 00:29:47,734 --> 00:29:52,266 the curtain in the temple was rent in two and the earth shook. 619 00:29:52,266 --> 00:29:56,266 Now we know in the Bible's story that as Jesus died on the cross, 620 00:29:56,266 --> 00:29:58,266 that the ground shook. 621 00:29:58,266 --> 00:30:02,867 And this is undoubtedly an area of huge seismic activity. 622 00:30:02,867 --> 00:30:05,367 So it's not beyond the realms 623 00:30:05,367 --> 00:30:11,000 that we may have had an earthquake at that time. 624 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,734 [Eric] The Dead Sea, Israel. 625 00:30:13,734 --> 00:30:17,066 Located about 20 miles east of Jerusalem, 626 00:30:17,066 --> 00:30:21,367 it acts as a geological record of the region. 627 00:30:21,367 --> 00:30:23,500 Geologist, Shmuel Marco, 628 00:30:23,500 --> 00:30:28,500 is hunting for evidence of this crucifixion quake. 629 00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:32,867 The Dead Sea, uh, for us geologists 630 00:30:32,867 --> 00:30:34,367 is a history book. 631 00:30:34,367 --> 00:30:38,867 It's been here for ages, millions of years, 632 00:30:38,867 --> 00:30:41,867 and the biblical story of Jesus 633 00:30:41,867 --> 00:30:44,467 are included in this time. 634 00:30:44,467 --> 00:30:46,367 At the time of the crucifixion, 635 00:30:46,367 --> 00:30:49,166 there was an... a strong earthquake. 636 00:30:49,166 --> 00:30:52,634 So the earthquake should be recorded 637 00:30:52,634 --> 00:30:54,266 in the sediments. 638 00:30:54,266 --> 00:30:55,734 [Eric] The idea of an earthquake 639 00:30:55,734 --> 00:30:57,867 shaking ancient Jerusalem 640 00:30:57,867 --> 00:31:00,867 is not as bizarre as it may sound. 641 00:31:00,867 --> 00:31:02,634 In the last thousand years, 642 00:31:02,634 --> 00:31:07,367 this region has been hit by 12 major quakes. 643 00:31:07,367 --> 00:31:11,500 The reason that this is an earthquake country 644 00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:14,367 is that this particular place 645 00:31:14,367 --> 00:31:17,533 is a boundary between two tectonic plates. 646 00:31:17,533 --> 00:31:22,600 Here on the west, we have the Sinai plate, 647 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,000 and on the east we have the Arabian plates. 648 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,367 They are held together at the boundary by the friction. 649 00:31:29,367 --> 00:31:33,367 And any time that the forces overcome the friction, 650 00:31:33,367 --> 00:31:34,867 we see a jump. 651 00:31:34,867 --> 00:31:37,266 And this is an earthquake. 652 00:31:37,266 --> 00:31:39,266 [Eric] When an earthquake strikes, 653 00:31:39,266 --> 00:31:43,734 it permanently changes the geology of the seabed. 654 00:31:43,734 --> 00:31:45,600 When the bottom of the lake shakes, 655 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,734 the very fine layers are distorted and disturbed 656 00:31:49,734 --> 00:31:52,734 and, and we see this disturbance, 657 00:31:52,734 --> 00:31:56,967 uh, in the sediments and we identify earthquakes. 658 00:31:56,967 --> 00:31:59,166 [Eric] Normally, these historic records 659 00:31:59,166 --> 00:32:01,600 are hidden beneath the waves. 660 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,634 Yet over the last half century, 661 00:32:03,634 --> 00:32:06,533 the Dead Sea has been slowly receding, 662 00:32:06,533 --> 00:32:08,734 giving up its secrets. 663 00:32:08,734 --> 00:32:11,166 [Tony] As the Dead Sea has been receding, 664 00:32:11,166 --> 00:32:15,266 some of the evidence for past earthquakes has been revealed. 665 00:32:15,266 --> 00:32:17,867 [Eric] Astonishingly, layers of rock, 666 00:32:17,867 --> 00:32:21,367 which made up the seabed when Jesus was crucified, 667 00:32:21,367 --> 00:32:23,600 have been exposed again. 668 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,734 [Shmuel] So, uh, we can find layers 669 00:32:26,734 --> 00:32:31,600 which correlate in time to the same period 670 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,266 that Jesus lived. 671 00:32:34,266 --> 00:32:37,066 [Eric] The geological records of the Dead Sea 672 00:32:37,066 --> 00:32:40,166 prove an earthquake occurred within five years 673 00:32:40,166 --> 00:32:42,734 of the biblical account of the crucifixion. 674 00:32:42,734 --> 00:32:45,467 And there was an earthquake 675 00:32:45,467 --> 00:32:48,634 which was documented by the sediments of the Dead Sea. 676 00:32:48,634 --> 00:32:51,000 It could very well be the earthquake, 677 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:56,000 which is, uh, described in the, in the Bible. 678 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,367 [Eric] For some, this is proof that at least a part of the story 679 00:32:59,367 --> 00:33:02,266 lies, in fact, not fiction. 680 00:33:02,266 --> 00:33:05,166 The stratification now being revealed 681 00:33:05,166 --> 00:33:07,467 by the receding Dead Sea 682 00:33:07,467 --> 00:33:09,500 proves that there was an earthquake 683 00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:11,600 and that that fits in 684 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,600 with the story of Jesus's crucifixion. 685 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,967 From an archeological standpoint, 686 00:33:16,967 --> 00:33:20,867 this sort of, uh, geological evidence is, 687 00:33:20,867 --> 00:33:23,967 I would say, pretty much as good as we're gonna get 688 00:33:23,967 --> 00:33:27,266 in terms of verifying the crucifixion. 689 00:33:27,266 --> 00:33:30,967 [Eric] Yet some scholars are less convinced. 690 00:33:30,967 --> 00:33:33,266 The earthquake theory, though, has to be put into context, 691 00:33:33,266 --> 00:33:36,367 which is that there are regular earthquakes in that part of the world, 692 00:33:36,367 --> 00:33:38,600 and the descriptions of the crucifixion in the Bible 693 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,000 are not history. 694 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,266 So the descriptions of the earthquake are symbolic. 695 00:33:42,266 --> 00:33:44,867 They're about the destruction of the sacred edifice 696 00:33:44,867 --> 00:33:47,367 of the holiness, a metaphor for Christ's body. 697 00:33:47,367 --> 00:33:51,266 They're all sorts of things, but they're not a geological event. 698 00:33:51,266 --> 00:33:56,600 I personally wouldn't invest too much into the earthquake, 699 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,634 uh, although it's, it's reported and it does seem 700 00:33:59,634 --> 00:34:02,367 to have some scientific verification. 701 00:34:02,367 --> 00:34:05,066 As a writer, the earth is quaking 702 00:34:05,066 --> 00:34:08,066 because world history is about to change 703 00:34:08,066 --> 00:34:11,000 because of this extinction level event, 704 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,166 uh, of the crucifixion of Jesus. 705 00:34:14,166 --> 00:34:16,266 [Eric] Despite the skepticism, 706 00:34:16,266 --> 00:34:18,100 the geology of the Dead Sea 707 00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:20,000 does prove an earthquake struck 708 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,634 around the same time as the biblical story. 709 00:34:23,634 --> 00:34:28,266 But while many scholars try to prove the events of the Holy Book, 710 00:34:28,266 --> 00:34:32,266 there are tales of Christ surviving the crucifixion, 711 00:34:32,266 --> 00:34:35,634 which even include a cold war conspiracy 712 00:34:35,634 --> 00:34:38,533 to hide the truth behind his death. 713 00:34:42,367 --> 00:34:45,800 The idea of Jesus being crucified on the cross 714 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,500 is a heavily debated topic. 715 00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:51,100 But what if he narrowly avoided death 716 00:34:51,100 --> 00:34:52,867 and actually escaped? 717 00:34:52,867 --> 00:34:56,367 Inevitably with a story as big as the story of Jesus, 718 00:34:56,367 --> 00:34:59,100 there have always been multiple versions of it. 719 00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:01,266 And one strand that has emerged is the idea 720 00:35:01,266 --> 00:35:03,500 that Jesus didn't die at the crucifixion 721 00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:04,734 and that he survived. 722 00:35:04,734 --> 00:35:07,100 [Karen] There have been a lot of speculators 723 00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:11,166 as to alternative outcomes for Jesus, 724 00:35:11,166 --> 00:35:13,634 um, saying that he had survived the crucifixion. 725 00:35:13,634 --> 00:35:17,166 One called the Jesus Scroll, postulated that 726 00:35:17,166 --> 00:35:21,734 Jesus actually retreated to this mountainside retreat 727 00:35:21,734 --> 00:35:23,800 above the Dead Sea. 728 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,467 The Jesus Scroll story involves a claim 729 00:35:27,467 --> 00:35:29,867 that one of the Dead Sea Scrolls 730 00:35:29,867 --> 00:35:32,367 proved that Jesus survived 731 00:35:32,367 --> 00:35:34,867 the crucifixion living to old age. 732 00:35:38,166 --> 00:35:41,533 [Eric] The Dead Sea Scrolls are a set of ancient texts, 733 00:35:41,533 --> 00:35:43,634 with some providing an alternate theory 734 00:35:43,634 --> 00:35:46,734 on the beginnings of Christianity. 735 00:35:46,734 --> 00:35:49,166 Some claim one of these manuscripts, 736 00:35:49,166 --> 00:35:51,367 known as the Jesus Scroll, 737 00:35:51,367 --> 00:35:54,500 was never released to the public. 738 00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:56,000 A proclamation first made 739 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,066 by Australian journalist, Donovan Joyce. 740 00:36:00,867 --> 00:36:03,734 The astonishing claim made by Donovan Joyce 741 00:36:03,734 --> 00:36:07,166 is that he was at Tel Aviv airport in 1964 742 00:36:07,166 --> 00:36:11,000 and an archeologist begged him to take this scroll, 743 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,100 which proved that Jesus had survived the crucifixion. 744 00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:16,734 Take it to the West and share the story. 745 00:36:16,734 --> 00:36:19,734 Now, Donovan Joyce refused to do this. 746 00:36:19,734 --> 00:36:22,533 What Joyce claims is that this archeologist, 747 00:36:22,533 --> 00:36:25,100 disgruntled, then flew to Moscow 748 00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:28,000 and tried to sell it to the Soviet Union 749 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,166 so that they could prove to the world 750 00:36:30,166 --> 00:36:32,634 that Christianity was a lie. 751 00:36:33,634 --> 00:36:36,600 [Eric] If Joyce's story is to be believed, 752 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,266 the scroll, signed by Jesus himself, 753 00:36:40,266 --> 00:36:43,500 fell into the hands of the Soviets. 754 00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:46,266 To this day, the country has not released 755 00:36:46,266 --> 00:36:49,900 any details of what the scroll described. 756 00:36:49,900 --> 00:36:53,533 Apparently, it tells of Jesus living to the age of 80 757 00:36:53,533 --> 00:36:57,233 and fighting the Romans at the legendary battle of Masada. 758 00:36:58,166 --> 00:37:01,600 The siege of Masada is one of the great tales 759 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,634 that we have in Western civilization. 760 00:37:04,634 --> 00:37:07,800 And this idea that Jesus was present at Masada, 761 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,734 that's a, a really titillating tale. 762 00:37:14,533 --> 00:37:17,367 [Eric] Masada, Israel. 763 00:37:17,367 --> 00:37:20,533 Nearly 40 miles southeast of Jerusalem, 764 00:37:20,533 --> 00:37:24,166 it's one of the ancient world's greatest forts. 765 00:37:24,166 --> 00:37:27,166 [Bena] So the year is 73 A.D. 766 00:37:27,166 --> 00:37:30,166 and the final place of refuge for the last 767 00:37:30,166 --> 00:37:33,800 of the Jewish rebels is down by the Dead Sea 768 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:38,533 in the Judean Desert on a mountain called Masada. 769 00:37:38,533 --> 00:37:41,700 [Eric] Local historian, Gideon Hadas, 770 00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:46,166 is investigating the claim that this is where Jesus died. 771 00:37:46,166 --> 00:37:48,100 [Gideon] We are on top of Masada. 772 00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:50,500 Masada is very high from the surroundings, 773 00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:52,367 as you can see it all around. 774 00:37:52,367 --> 00:37:54,634 It's a cliff by itself, 775 00:37:54,634 --> 00:37:56,166 and it's very impressive. 776 00:37:56,166 --> 00:38:00,467 Ten thousand Roman soldier were around Masada 777 00:38:00,467 --> 00:38:04,734 and there was a, about 900 Jews on the mountain. 778 00:38:04,734 --> 00:38:07,100 If Jesus was here... 779 00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:08,233 he died here. 780 00:38:10,634 --> 00:38:13,367 [Eric] Legend says that after laying siege 781 00:38:13,367 --> 00:38:16,266 to the mountain fortress for over four months, 782 00:38:16,266 --> 00:38:19,800 the Romans were finally at a point of breakthrough. 783 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,800 Knowing their time was up, 784 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,433 the Jewish Zealots, and maybe Jesus, made a pact. 785 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,734 The commander of the fortress gave two speeches... 786 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,000 to encourage the people to kill themselves, 787 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,867 to be... To, to, to stay free, 788 00:38:37,867 --> 00:38:39,900 not to enslave by the Romans. 789 00:38:39,900 --> 00:38:43,800 And they, they decided to kill themselves. 790 00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:47,734 [Eric] If the Jesus Scroll is to be believed, 791 00:38:47,734 --> 00:38:51,900 this is where Christ died having ended his own life. 792 00:38:51,900 --> 00:38:54,734 If proven, this story would cause 793 00:38:54,734 --> 00:38:57,000 shockwaves around the world. 794 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,166 But some believe the Jesus Scroll 795 00:38:59,166 --> 00:39:01,533 suggests much more. 796 00:39:01,533 --> 00:39:04,000 If the Jesus Scroll is true, 797 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,266 then Jesus wasn't crucified, 798 00:39:06,266 --> 00:39:08,000 he wasn't resurrected. 799 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,266 Therefore, he wasn't the Son of God. 800 00:39:10,266 --> 00:39:13,700 Therefore, Christianity rests on a lie, 801 00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:16,700 because Jesus lived to an old age 802 00:39:16,700 --> 00:39:18,533 and took his own life. 803 00:39:18,533 --> 00:39:21,600 [Eric] Today, the Jesus Scroll is one of the many stories 804 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,333 of Christ surviving the crucifixion. 805 00:39:25,467 --> 00:39:28,266 Unless one theory is proven to be true, 806 00:39:28,266 --> 00:39:31,166 scholars are left debating the credibility 807 00:39:31,166 --> 00:39:34,333 of the event at the heart of Christianity. 808 00:39:35,166 --> 00:39:39,266 If something would come about today 809 00:39:39,266 --> 00:39:42,900 in our day and age, that will actually suggest that, 810 00:39:42,900 --> 00:39:46,166 uh, Jesus never died on the cross, 811 00:39:46,166 --> 00:39:49,467 that will be a game changer. 812 00:39:49,467 --> 00:39:51,367 [Eric] While the Church remains adamant 813 00:39:51,367 --> 00:39:53,700 that Jesus was crucified, 814 00:39:53,700 --> 00:39:57,467 skeptics still question the truth behind the cross. 815 00:39:57,467 --> 00:40:00,000 As much as the cross means to people, 816 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,266 and as much as it informs 817 00:40:03,266 --> 00:40:05,734 ancient and modern Christian iconography, 818 00:40:05,734 --> 00:40:08,000 it's entirely possible 819 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,367 that our portrayal of the cross 820 00:40:11,367 --> 00:40:13,600 may be something which has been informed 821 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,367 by something other than verifiable fact. 822 00:40:17,367 --> 00:40:20,800 [Eric] For some, the truth is lost forever. 823 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,500 Historically, there is very rarely smoke without fire. 824 00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:29,100 It is likely that in the early first century A.D., 825 00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:33,900 a Jewish man called Jesus was crucified by the Romans. 826 00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:37,000 But why he was executed 827 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,800 and the way in which he was executed 828 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,533 will probably forever be lost to us. 829 00:40:42,533 --> 00:40:46,266 Even if we did find evidence 830 00:40:46,266 --> 00:40:50,533 that Jesus did not die on the cross, 831 00:40:50,533 --> 00:40:52,533 there are far too many people 832 00:40:52,533 --> 00:40:56,266 who would not engage with that possibility, 833 00:40:56,266 --> 00:41:00,367 who would feel that the evidence was planted, 834 00:41:00,367 --> 00:41:04,266 it's misinterpreted, misunderstood. 835 00:41:04,266 --> 00:41:06,100 [Eric] But for the Christian Church, 836 00:41:06,100 --> 00:41:08,800 perhaps the stakes are too high. 837 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,367 [JJ] It's doubtful that we'll ever know the truth 838 00:41:11,367 --> 00:41:13,900 about the death of Jesus, 839 00:41:13,900 --> 00:41:16,734 because a lot of very powerful people 840 00:41:16,734 --> 00:41:19,533 seem to want to keep this information from us, 841 00:41:19,533 --> 00:41:23,634 particularly those around the Vatican. 842 00:41:23,634 --> 00:41:26,367 It's certainly not in the interest of the Vatican 843 00:41:26,367 --> 00:41:29,266 to open up a debate on the crucifixion, 844 00:41:29,266 --> 00:41:31,367 to think about other alternatives. 845 00:41:31,367 --> 00:41:34,100 There is no other alternative 846 00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:36,800 as far as the Vatican is concerned. 847 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,867 [Eric] Yet the faithful hold fast to their beliefs. 848 00:41:40,867 --> 00:41:43,867 So do I believe in the crucifixion? 849 00:41:43,867 --> 00:41:46,166 I do because I am a priest. 850 00:41:46,166 --> 00:41:49,500 It doesn't matter exactly the way Jesus died. 851 00:41:49,500 --> 00:41:51,800 The important thing was that Jesus died. 852 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,800 He gave his life for me. 853 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,100 That's the message of the Church. 73413

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