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Narrator: according to
The bible, moses is one of
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The most important prophets
In history.
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But what do we know about
The actual man himself?
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Surprisingly very little.
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There seem to be no factual
Accounts of moses
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And little evidence
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From archaeology or historical
Records to prove
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The exodus story is true.
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Whether moses
Is legend or fact,
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He is a towering figure
In all abrahamic religions.
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Narrator:
Academics, archaeologists,
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And historians debate
Over when
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Moses lived and if
He lived at all,
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Whether the stories of
The ten commandments,
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The burning bush, and even
The parting of the red sea
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Actually happened.
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Kirkpatrick: he performed
Great acts of magic,
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Which he claimed were
Miracles...Or were they?
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Boxall: is there a scientific
Explanation behind this story?
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And the answer is, yes,
We can do it very simply.
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Phillips: if my historical
Research is correct,
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Then moses was the most
Important person
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Who ever lived.
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*
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Narrator: moses is one of
The most important figures
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In the old testament,
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According to the bible,
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But who is
This mysterious character?
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Gough: moses was a prophet
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According to christianity
And islam.
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The jury is still out on
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Whether he is a real,
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Historical figure
Or mythological.
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Mcmahon: I mean, he may have
Been a legendary figure.
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He may have been factual,
But he's the most important
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Prophet in the old testament.
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You know, he writes the torah,
The laws of god.
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He leads the israelites out
Of egypt,
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Out of bondage
To the promised land.
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And he is, among all
The prophets, the most revered,
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The most important.
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[ singing in foreign language ]
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Young-somers: moses holds a very
Important role in the three big
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Monotheistic faiths,
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As the archetype leader
Certainly forms the majority
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Of the narrative through
The five books of moses,
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Which are obviously cortex for
Both jews and christians,
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Whether that's in the old
Testament or in the hebrew
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Bible and torah, and then
He's also considered a very
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Important prophet
In islam, too, so,
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I think, a core figure for
All the three abrahamic faiths.
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Narrator: the traditional story
Is that moses was
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The son of a hebrew slave
In ancient egypt.
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At the time, the pharaoh
Feared his growing
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Hebrew population
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And ordered all of
Their newborn boys to be slain.
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So to escape this fate,
Moses's mother
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Hid her son in a basket
And set it free on
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The river nile.
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Moses is found by no less
A person than
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Pharaoh's daughter,
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Who brings him to the royal
Palace, where he's brought up.
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Now, not only is that dramatic
In terms of the context,
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But in terms of story-writing
And symbol, that's the most
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Powerful you get,
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Because it's
A transitional moment.
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It's liminal, he's moving from
One world into the next world
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Through the water -- he's being
Set up as a hero in the making.
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Narrator:
As moses enters adulthood,
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He embarks on a troubling path,
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Torn between his egyptian
Upbringing and his hebrew roots.
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Bianchi: moses, as this
Adopted egyptian,
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Sees his people being
Mistreated, and moses sees
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An egyptian overseer beat
A hebrew worker.
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And moses waits for
An opportune time,
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Goes up to the egyptian,
And murders him.
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News of his murder
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Is on everybody's lips,
And pharaoh starts
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To look for him.
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Narrator: moses escaped
To the desert and led
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A simple life in exile
As a shepherd.
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One day, while tending his
Flock, he encountered
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A burning bush
And the voice of god,
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Telling him to return to
Egypt, confront the pharaoh,
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Free the hebrews, and take them
To the promised land.
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To support moses's mission,
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God summons ten plagues
To terrorize the pharaoh.
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After agreeing to moses's terms,
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The pharaoh changed his mind
And gave chase.
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With the hebrews trapped
On the edge of the red sea,
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Moses used his staff
To part the waves,
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Allowing the desperate group
To escape.
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The egyptian army followed,
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But is engulfed
By the violent waters.
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This allowed moses to lead
His people to mount sinai,
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Where god gave him
The ten commandments
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And then took his people
To the promised land.
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Young-somers: moses is
A flawed individual
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In the jewish tradition,
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But also the greatest leader
That we've had.
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And I think moses's
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Flaws are --
Are, for me,
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An important part of
The narrative,
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Because it teaches us that
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Even as flawed
People ourselves,
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We can still make
A difference.
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We can still contribute,
And that
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God can still be in
A relationship with us,
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Even though we make mistakes.
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Gough: by all accounts,
Moses was a virtuous man,
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A man of his principles.
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He was dedicated --
No matter how difficult
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Or arduous the task
That he was given,
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He did it, so he's become
This sort of
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Inspirational figure who
Wanted to do things his way
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No matter what the established
Norm was at that time.
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Narrator: for such a central
Religious figure,
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The lack of evidence around
Him is, well, outstanding.
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There are no archaeological
Findings to support
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The biblical story
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And certainly no extra
Biblical references
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In egyptian inscriptions.
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The absence of proof is a huge
Problem for historians,
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Archaeologists,
And academics.
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There is strangely
No evidence that moses
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Was a historical figure,
And I say strangely,
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Because the egyptians
Were so good at keeping records,
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And to not have a record there
Is interesting.
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We even have records of people
Who -- whose records were
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Effaced, like hatshepsut
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When she was stricken
From records by her son
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After he came to power.
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We know that that happened,
But we have nothing on moses.
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Like many, many great,
Epic tales,
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There might be
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Just a kernel of truth
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Upon whom the character
Of moses is based,
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And I'm not prepared
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To dismiss him out of hand.
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Although,
When you study traditions,
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You understand that...
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History has a chance of being
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Morphed into something
Larger than life.
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Gough: now those who believe
It is a authentic story
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That the israelites
Were held captive in egypt
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And left in the exodus
Point us to different locations
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And different periods in time,
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Which is why we don't find
The evidence we think we should.
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Narrator: so where can we find
Evidence for the real moses?
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And what controversial
Theories are
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Given to explain
His supernatural powers?
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Narrator: did the legendary
Biblical figure
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Of moses really exist?
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Archaeological evidence has
Yet to unearth any proof of
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His life, or even that
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Of his followers
In egypt or in the deserts of
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The sinai peninsula.
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Yet there are tantalizing
Clues in the story of
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Something that may be more
Than mere folk tale.
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For a start, there is
The name moses itself.
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Bianchi: the name moses can
Etymologically be related
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To the egyptian,
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The ancient egyptian verb,
Meaning "To be born."
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And so, in a sense, if you
Want to take an egyptian slant,
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Moses has an egyptian name,
Because, quote,
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"He was born out of the water."
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Mcmahon: the old testament
Tells us that moses was
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A fourth generation egyptian,
I mean, this is
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Essentially a citizen
Of ancient egypt,
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As were most of the jewish
People that he led out
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Of bondage.
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So if we'd met moses,
We'd have met essentially
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An ancient egyptian
By appearance,
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Possibly even by language,
By culture.
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Narrator: although he led
The hebrews out of slavery,
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Moses's egyptian link might
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Be stronger
Than the bible reveals.
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Interestingly, his story
Has a strange echo
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Of the life of egyptian
Pharaoh akhenaten,
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The first monotheist
Known to history.
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Author and egyptologist
Ahmed osman has written
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Several books outlining
His belief that moses was
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Akhenaten.
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Akhenaten reigned
From 1352 to 1338 bc
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And proclaimed that there
Was only one true god,
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Aten, the sun disc.
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All others were false.
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But when akhenaten died, the old
Religious system revived
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And then obliterated
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Akhenaten's memory
And that of his son and heir,
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Tutankhamun.
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Mcmahon: you could rightly call
Akhenaten the heretic pharaoh,
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Because he rejects
The official religion,
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The state religion
Of ancient egypt,
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I mean, which was hugely
Important to people.
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I mean,
They governed their lives
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By what they thought
The gods wanted.
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Akhenaten comes along.
He throws all that out.
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He goes to war against thebes
And the temples of luxor
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And memphis,
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Against all the priests,
He sends in his soldiers
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To smash up statues,
To hack faces off the temples.
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I mean, this is
An extraordinary,
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Short-lived period
In egyptian history.
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Narrator: but can
This mysterious pharaoh really
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Be the historical moses?
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Was akhenaten's religion
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The forerunner to
The abrahamic faiths?
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It's possible that moses was
Inspired by akhenaten in --
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In some ways and ran with it
And changed it,
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Turned it on its head.
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But we really don't know,
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And I think the monotheistic
Thing is overplayed.
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The similarities
Are overplayed.
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Bianchi: the israelites
Are not monotheists
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Until after
They leave israel
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And form
A national covenant.
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So here, you know,
You're putting the horse
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In front of the wagon
Or behind the wagon,
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Okay, he's not a monotheist
Until they get to
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The promised land,
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And they don't get
To the promised land
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Until after moses is dead.
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So trying to connect
Those dots just ignores
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All of the evidence
As we know it.
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Narrator: even if akhenaten
Is not the real moses,
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Some experts believe
There is still a link.
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By researching the bible
And writings
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Of the ancient jewish
Historian josephus,
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Author and historian graham
Phillips agrees that akhenaten
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Is not moses,
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But his brother, thutmosis.
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Phillips: thutmosis was
A prince in the court.
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Thutmosis was also
A leading general.
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He was, in fact,
In charge of
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All the king's chariot forces,
And thutmosis
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Also acted for a while
As the grand vizier,
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The prime minister,
The chief minister of egypt.
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All of those things
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We are told by josephus
And also
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Partly in the bible,
Applied to moses -- moses,
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We are told,
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Was exiled from egypt,
And exactly the same thing
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Happens to thutmosis.
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He was exiled from egypt.
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We know this, because
Archaeologists have discovered
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A tomb prepared for him,
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But it was never used.
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And the only conclusion that
People have come to, because
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They can find no records of him
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Dying in office, is that
He was exiled.
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Once again,
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Moses and thutmosis are living
Almost identical lives
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At exactly the same time.
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Narrator: whether or not moses
Was, in fact, a well-documented
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Egyptian leader,
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His story goes on
To tell of fantastic miracles.
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Could the story of the burning
Bush really have happened?
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And could mind-altering
Substances have generated
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Moses's visions?
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Narrator:
The historical existence of
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The biblical prophet moses
Might be debatable,
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But as the traditional story
Goes, after he was exiled
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In the desert wilderness
For decades,
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A miraculous encounter
Changed his life.
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The story goes
That on mount horeb,
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Moses saw a burning bush,
Which was, in fact, god
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Speaking to him, telling him,
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Instructing him to take
The israelites out of egypt
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To the promised land.
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Mcmahon: the burning bush is --
Is what
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Movie makers call
An inciting incident.
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It's that plot point.
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It's that moment
In the story of moses
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When he's got to go
On his quest.
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The burning bush is
What makes it all happen.
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Narrator: this fantastic vision
Was traditionally seen as
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A miracle,
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But some believe there is
A radical alternative theory.
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Doblin: I think moses
Could very well have been
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Using psychedelics --
We don't know for sure,
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But I think it's
Entirely possible.
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Narrator:
Rick doblin is the founder
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Of the association for
Psychedelic studies.
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He believes moses
Could have used
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Mind-altering drugs
To generate his visions.
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Doblin: so the burning bush,
To me, represents a not uncommon
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Experience that people have
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Under the influence
Of psychedelics,
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Where they look at nature, and
They realize that it's alive.
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It's got energy in it.
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And so the course of
Energy through
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This plant could be
Interpreted as fire.
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And so my interpretation of
That event was that it was more
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That, uh, you know,
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Moses saw the inner fire,
And that if we could see
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The energy, we might
Interpret it as fire.
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Narrator: in fact, nature might
Provide another explanation.
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In the area where this is
Said to have occurred,
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There grows acacia wood.
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And if you burn acacia wood
Or an acacia tree burns
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And you're close enough
To inhale the smoke,
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You will hallucinate.
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Narrator:
This is because acacia bark
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Contains a substance
Called dmt,
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Or dimethyltryptamine,
Which is
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A powerful hallucinogenic.
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Mcmahon: it's even suggested
That moses was a kind of
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Shaman-type figure
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Who may have known this
And set the bush alight in
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Order to have that kind
Of experience,
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That communing
With the spiritual
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That only basically
A narcotic-driven high
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Could've given him.
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Narrator: but is this really
An outlandish theory?
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Artificial methods to achieve
Spiritual enlightenment
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Have been used by cultures
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All across the world
For thousands of years.
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Doblin: I think they're --
Psychedelics were seen
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As powerful tools to
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Help us get out of
Our, sort of,
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Ego identification,
Our sense of self,
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And that there has been
A reason for people to do
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Various things in terms of
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Drumming or fasting,
Vision quests,
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And so I would imagine
That psychedelics could be
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Something that was
Appreciated by moses
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And people around
That time.
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Picknett: that could have been
A completely pivotal moment
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In several great religions,
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And it might all have been
Due to burning bark.
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Bianchi: so there's nothing
In the biblical account
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To suggest
That he's eating or...
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Inhaling or...
Uh...
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Hallucinogens,
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So I -- I take
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Scripture literally.
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He's watching a slot.
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He sees something.
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He goes over to investigate
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And gets the conversation
With the almighty.
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Narrator: aside from talking
To god in the burning bush,
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There are still
Other miracles
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Moses is said to have
Performed, such as parting
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The red sea.
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It is not surprising that such
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An unbelievable tale
Raises debate among scholars.
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The miraculous crossing
Of the red sea has to be
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The most -- one of the most
Stunning, incredible events
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In the old testament.
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It's the fact that moses
Is able to lead
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The jewish people,
The israelites,
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Out of egypt through what
Seems like an impossible
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Stretch of water.
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And then, as the egyptians
Come chasing after them,
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God closes the sea in on
Pharaoh and his hundreds of
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Chariots, drowning them all.
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Narrator: but could this really
Have happened in the red sea
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We know today?
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The very name of
The body of water
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Moses crossed may have been
Mistakenly identified
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For centuries.
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I'm not entirely sure where
The mistranslation of "Red sea"
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Comes from -- it's in hebrew,
Yam suph,
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Which is reed sea.
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It may have bean that someone
Wrote "Reed sea,"
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And then it was missed out,
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The e got dropped,
And actually, in hebrew,
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That happens quite frequently
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That manuscripts would have
Been repeatedly written down
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By hand, and little errors
Will creep in.
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I think red sea will be pretty
Hard to get rid of now.
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It's pretty much embedded
In how we tell the story.
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Narrator: regardless of whether
Moses crossed the red sea
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Or the reed sea,
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Can science proved he was
Capable of parting the waves?
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Narrator: the bible tells us
That moses led his followers
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To safety by parting
The waters of the red sea.
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But could the fantastical
Event really have happened in
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The red sea we know today or
Another nearby body of water?
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Simon boxall
Is an oceanographer
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From southampton university
In england.
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He evaluates the modern
Scientific ideas
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That explain this mysterious
Sea crossing.
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Boxall: there are many theories
That go with this story.
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One is that around
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About the same time, we know
That there was a huge explosion,
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Volcanic explosion,
Eruption, on santorini,
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And that basically caused
A huge tsunami.
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And one theory is that
It was a tsunami that
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Came at just the right time
To allow them to cross.
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Now the theory there is flawed,
It's flawed for two reasons.
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One is, if you look at models
Of the tsunami that would have
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Occurred, then the island chain,
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Crete, to the south off
Santorini, would have protected
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The egyptian coast,
And the biggest tsunami that
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Would've got there would have
Been about a meter,
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A meter and 1/2,
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And when a tsunami hits,
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The tide or the water can
Recede for a short while
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And then come back in again.
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That's great --
The problem with that is,
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That it only happens
For about five minutes,
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And you're not going
To get an entire army
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Or population across that sort
Of causeway in that period.
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A second theory
That's put down is that
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The bible talks about
Strong winds from the east.
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The idea that the wind
Literally blows the sea
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And creates
A pileup somewhere,
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Which means you then get
A sort of gap somewhere else,
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Is flawed --
It's flawed
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Because the effect
Isn't that great.
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You're not going to suddenly
Clear a causeway
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As a result of that setdown.
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Narrator: back in his lab,
Simon demonstrates how
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He believes the sea crossing
Really took place.
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Boxall: I think the reason
That the seas parted
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Was because of a seiche effect.
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Now that sounds very technical,
But actually it's
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Something that happens around
The world every single day,
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And it's...
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An event hitting the natural
Frequency of a basin.
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That also sounds complex,
But we've done it as kids.
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If we lay back in the bath
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And rock backwards
And forwards at just
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The right speed,
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Then we suddenly take
The water with us,
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And we can actually
Effectively empty half a ton
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Of water onto the floor
Very efficiently.
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You could do that
From splashing,
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And that's because we're
Hitting the critical frequency,
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And we can see that in
A very simple experiment here.
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We have a bottle of water,
And that bottle of water,
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You can imagine
That is your red sea,
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And actually, I can sort of
Create disturbances,
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And I can create waves --
It splashes around a bit.
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Yeah, storms happen.
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But actually, if I hit
The right frequency,
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If I can just find
The frequency in that bottle,
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And I move it very gently,
Side to side, then effectively,
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I'm like the child in
The bath, emptying the bath out.
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And suddenly, you've gone
From a tide out here,
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Which is maybe
Two or three feet,
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To a tide in here,
Which could be 60 feet.
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Now that doesn't happen
In the red sea,
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But we know the fact that
The tide at the top of
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The channel of the red sea,
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The suez channel, go from
One or two feet outside,
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Inside the channel,
At the top of the channel,
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They go almost 15 feet.
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That's a huge difference --
If you come from a culture that
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Only sees tides on
The mediterranean along
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The red sea coast of
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A few -- one or two feet,
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You're not prepared for
These huge tides,
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Which are over ten times
As big.
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And that big
Four-meter tide
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Was more than sufficient
To wipe out an army.
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Narrator: while nature
May have allowed the hebrews
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To cross the sea,
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Simon thinks moses
May possibly have
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Had an important role to play.
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Boxall: what moses might have
Done, if he's observant
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And canny, was observe
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That the tides existed,
The tides were high,
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That actually he had a narrow
Window, but enough of a window,
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To lead his people to safety
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And to actually
Not only do that,
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But then inundate
The pursuing army with
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An incoming tide.
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And so...
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Was moses a magician?
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No, but like many magicians,
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He was clever
And applied science.
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Narrator: yet some speculate
That moses actually
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Was a conjurer with
Supernatural powers.
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Witch, priestess, and magician,
Carrie kirkpatrick,
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Believes moses's
Egyptian upbringing
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May have given him
A grounding in magic.
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Kirkpatrick: it's very likely
That moses was
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A magician in egyptian
Noble circles.
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It was not a big deal
To learn about magic.
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It was part of the culture.
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It would be part of
The everyday education.
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So it's very likely that all
Of these miracles that we see
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That have been attributed to god
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Were actually spells
Cast by moses himself,
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Using the training that
He had been given in egypt.
494
00:26:59,533 --> 00:27:02,500
Narrator: the suspicion that
Moses may have possessed magical
495
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,900
Or supernatural abilities was
Amplified with the discovery of
496
00:27:07,067 --> 00:27:11,167
The sixth and seventh books of
Moses, a collection of hidden
497
00:27:11,267 --> 00:27:14,933
Texts allegedly written
By the man himself.
498
00:27:19,233 --> 00:27:21,567
Mcmahon: the sixth and seventh
Books of moses are
499
00:27:21,667 --> 00:27:25,500
Particularly mysterious,
Because they try and explain
500
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,300
Through magic
501
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,633
How the miracles in the story
Of exodus happened.
502
00:27:32,867 --> 00:27:37,333
These books appear about 200
Years ago in germany, and then
503
00:27:37,433 --> 00:27:41,300
Immigrants take them
To the united states, where,
504
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,567
For whatever reason,
They're adopted quite
505
00:27:43,667 --> 00:27:46,733
Enthusiastically by the
African-american communities,
506
00:27:46,833 --> 00:27:49,333
Religious communities,
And in the caribbean.
507
00:27:49,433 --> 00:27:52,833
And many of the spells, a lot
Of the magic in those books,
508
00:27:52,933 --> 00:27:56,833
Are used, actually in practical
Cures back in those days
509
00:27:56,933 --> 00:27:58,533
To treat people.
510
00:28:00,700 --> 00:28:02,467
Kirkpatrick: we can't really
Know for sure
511
00:28:02,567 --> 00:28:04,067
That moses wrote the sixth
512
00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:06,200
And the seventh books,
However,
513
00:28:06,300 --> 00:28:09,067
You can see in the book of
Exodus that the use of magic
514
00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:10,500
Was expressly forbidden.
515
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,467
So you wouldn't say that if it
516
00:28:12,567 --> 00:28:14,700
Wasn't a problem
Or regarded as a problem.
517
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,067
It's a bit like prohibition.
518
00:28:16,133 --> 00:28:18,400
They wouldn't have brought it
In if alcohol wasn't a problem.
519
00:28:21,167 --> 00:28:23,167
Narrator: aside from
The miracles of moses,
520
00:28:23,267 --> 00:28:25,200
Are there
More concrete things
521
00:28:25,300 --> 00:28:27,300
That history can prove,
522
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,767
Such as the true location of
Mount sinai?
523
00:28:30,867 --> 00:28:34,233
And could archaeological
Evidence show that the spot
524
00:28:34,333 --> 00:28:36,633
Venerated by pilgrims
For centuries
525
00:28:36,733 --> 00:28:39,567
Isn't the legendary site
After all?
526
00:28:50,900 --> 00:28:54,100
Narrator:
Who was the real moses?
527
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,267
Is there
A historical figure behind
528
00:28:56,367 --> 00:28:59,733
The religious legend and tales
Of fantastic miracles?
529
00:29:01,333 --> 00:29:02,600
While it is hard
To unearth
530
00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:05,867
Concrete evidence
For his exploits and deeds,
531
00:29:05,967 --> 00:29:08,967
Can we pinpoint the locations
He's associated with?
532
00:29:10,067 --> 00:29:13,200
One of the most famous
Must be mount sinai.
533
00:29:18,167 --> 00:29:20,900
Mcmahon: mount sinai has this
Huge significance, obviously,
534
00:29:21,067 --> 00:29:22,700
For jews, christians,
535
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,833
Muslims, because that's where
Moses gets the ten commandments.
536
00:29:29,867 --> 00:29:33,067
That's where he meets god,
And god gives him
537
00:29:33,133 --> 00:29:35,933
The laws that are gonna
Govern his people,
538
00:29:36,067 --> 00:29:38,600
The believers.
Moses comes down,
539
00:29:38,700 --> 00:29:41,400
Of course, finds the israelites
Worshipping a golden calf,
540
00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:43,333
Smashes them angrily,
Has to go
541
00:29:43,433 --> 00:29:45,700
Back up the mountain
And get them all over again.
542
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,933
But it's for that reason that
This mountain is so sacred.
543
00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:55,933
Narrator:
For hundreds of years,
544
00:29:56,067 --> 00:29:58,300
It has been accepted
That jebel-musa
545
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,667
In the sinai peninsula of
Egypt is the legendary
546
00:30:01,767 --> 00:30:02,700
Mount sinai.
547
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,167
But is this correct?
548
00:30:06,267 --> 00:30:08,867
Phillips: interestingly,
The bible doesn't tell us
549
00:30:08,967 --> 00:30:11,200
Directly where
Mount sinai is.
550
00:30:11,300 --> 00:30:13,667
It is just somewhere
In the sinai wilderness,
551
00:30:13,767 --> 00:30:17,567
Which is a huge expanse
East of the red sea.
552
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,733
The emperor constantine
Decided it was a place
553
00:30:23,833 --> 00:30:26,100
Now called jebel-musa,
554
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:31,133
Meaning the mount of moses,
Which is in eastern egypt
555
00:30:31,233 --> 00:30:33,700
Within the sinai wilderness.
556
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,400
And he came up with that idea,
Because his mother had had
557
00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:40,633
A dream that that's where
It was, and a monastery was
558
00:30:40,733 --> 00:30:43,367
Founded there,
But there's no historical
559
00:30:43,467 --> 00:30:45,800
Or archaeological evidence
To support it.
560
00:30:50,167 --> 00:30:52,467
Narrator:
Since the mid-19th century,
561
00:30:52,567 --> 00:30:54,200
Debate has raged between
562
00:30:54,300 --> 00:30:57,767
Scholars on where
This holy site actually is,
563
00:30:57,867 --> 00:31:00,333
With over ten possible
Locations given.
564
00:31:01,767 --> 00:31:03,067
After excavations by
565
00:31:03,133 --> 00:31:06,333
The english archaeologist
Sir flinders petrie
566
00:31:06,433 --> 00:31:08,400
In the 1900s,
567
00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:10,433
Serabit el-khadim
568
00:31:10,533 --> 00:31:12,733
Has emerged as
A likely candidate.
569
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:20,500
Serabit el-khadim is
The 600-pound gorilla in
570
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,733
The story of moses that no one
Is really talking about.
571
00:31:26,233 --> 00:31:27,367
I've been there.
572
00:31:27,467 --> 00:31:31,133
It's an incredible place,
Excavated by petrie, who found
573
00:31:31,233 --> 00:31:34,700
Lots of temples of hathor,
574
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,167
The bull god that moses
Is known to have banned,
575
00:31:39,267 --> 00:31:44,167
But also,
Writing in semitic language,
576
00:31:44,267 --> 00:31:47,300
Which you'd still see
On the temple walls,
577
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,400
Proto-semitic,
578
00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:54,300
A language that is associated
With the people of israel.
579
00:31:56,433 --> 00:31:58,867
Narrator: excavations
At serabit el-khadim
580
00:31:58,967 --> 00:32:01,967
Also revealed possible
Animal sacrifices
581
00:32:02,067 --> 00:32:03,600
And ritual washing,
582
00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:06,900
Religious practices
Not commonly associated with
583
00:32:07,067 --> 00:32:10,900
Egyptian worship
But hebrew ceremonies.
584
00:32:11,067 --> 00:32:12,800
In addition,
There is evidence for
585
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:16,100
The mining of materials
Important to the jewish people.
586
00:32:17,333 --> 00:32:20,433
Gough: there's evidence of
Jewish worship
587
00:32:20,533 --> 00:32:23,233
At a place
Where there shouldn't be.
588
00:32:23,333 --> 00:32:26,200
There's evidence of
The creation of
589
00:32:26,300 --> 00:32:29,067
The jewish alphabet here.
590
00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:34,800
And thirdly, there's evidence
Of artisans, of mining of
591
00:32:34,900 --> 00:32:36,100
Turquoise and copper,
592
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,367
The kinds of people
Who could have constructed
593
00:32:40,467 --> 00:32:43,300
The ten commandments
And tablets.
594
00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:47,400
And if that's not enough,
595
00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:51,733
There's also tablets shaped
Like the image we're told
596
00:32:51,833 --> 00:32:54,433
The ten commandments
Were written in.
597
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,933
All the scholars argue that
Moses would have stopped there
598
00:33:02,067 --> 00:33:05,700
On his path of the exodus
To the promised land,
599
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,900
But what very few want
To acknowledge is that
600
00:33:10,067 --> 00:33:13,833
This could very well have been
The true mount sinai.
601
00:33:13,933 --> 00:33:19,833
*
602
00:33:19,933 --> 00:33:22,267
Narrator: but author
And historian graham phillips
603
00:33:22,367 --> 00:33:24,633
Has another radical idea.
604
00:33:24,733 --> 00:33:27,633
He believes the historical
Mount sinai is
605
00:33:27,733 --> 00:33:31,733
Actually found 150 miles away
In jordan,
606
00:33:31,833 --> 00:33:34,067
Near the ancient city
Of petra.
607
00:33:38,700 --> 00:33:42,133
Phillips: when I got there,
I found so many things
608
00:33:42,233 --> 00:33:45,533
That tied up with
The description of mount sinai
609
00:33:45,633 --> 00:33:48,233
In the bible
That I was literally,
610
00:33:48,333 --> 00:33:51,233
I don't know, flabbergasted,
Knocked off my feet,
611
00:33:51,333 --> 00:33:55,067
To how many similarities
There where between this place
612
00:33:55,100 --> 00:33:56,500
And the biblical description
613
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,867
That seem to have
Been completely overlooked
614
00:34:00,067 --> 00:34:02,067
By previous historians.
615
00:34:04,067 --> 00:34:07,200
Gough: the theory that
Graham phillips has put forward,
616
00:34:07,300 --> 00:34:12,867
That mount sinai is actually
In petra, is very viable,
617
00:34:12,967 --> 00:34:18,233
And that's because the whole
Valley around petra is within
618
00:34:18,333 --> 00:34:23,933
The right distance of where the
Exodus started from in egypt.
619
00:34:25,533 --> 00:34:29,333
His brother, aaron,
Is buried there,
620
00:34:29,433 --> 00:34:31,967
And on top of the mountain
621
00:34:32,067 --> 00:34:35,200
That graham suggests
Is mount sinai,
622
00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:38,600
There's actually architecture,
There's temples,
623
00:34:38,700 --> 00:34:43,533
There's pillars, just like
Are stated in the bible.
624
00:34:44,867 --> 00:34:48,233
Mcmahon: clues there include
The fact that the valley
625
00:34:48,333 --> 00:34:51,367
In which petra is based
Is called the wadi musa,
626
00:34:51,467 --> 00:34:55,367
The valley of moses, and there
Is a rock, the ain musa,
627
00:34:55,467 --> 00:34:57,800
The rock of moses,
Where the water is said
628
00:34:57,900 --> 00:34:59,633
To have spouted out,
And it would
629
00:34:59,733 --> 00:35:02,233
Make a lot more
Sense for petra to be
630
00:35:02,333 --> 00:35:05,733
The location as a major trade
And commercial hub back in
631
00:35:05,833 --> 00:35:07,400
Those days than somewhere,
632
00:35:07,500 --> 00:35:10,400
Some dusty hole, at the bottom
Of the sinai peninsula.
633
00:35:12,133 --> 00:35:14,067
Narrator:
Yet moses's most important
634
00:35:14,167 --> 00:35:16,667
Legacy is giving
The ten commandments
635
00:35:16,767 --> 00:35:18,633
To the jewish people.
636
00:35:18,733 --> 00:35:20,867
While the inscribed tablets
Most likely
637
00:35:20,967 --> 00:35:23,700
Have not survived
To modern times,
638
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,400
Could their origins
Be less miraculous
639
00:35:26,500 --> 00:35:28,333
Than the famous story
Tells us?
640
00:35:37,367 --> 00:35:39,067
Narrator:
For thousands of years,
641
00:35:39,100 --> 00:35:41,133
The biblical figure of moses has
642
00:35:41,233 --> 00:35:44,067
Been associated
With amazing miracles,
643
00:35:44,167 --> 00:35:46,567
With some alleging he might
Actually have possessed
644
00:35:46,667 --> 00:35:47,867
Magical powers.
645
00:35:51,133 --> 00:35:53,300
Whether miracle or magic,
646
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,567
He had one
Indispensable possession --
647
00:35:56,667 --> 00:35:57,700
His staff.
648
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,733
Phillips: again and again,
649
00:36:00,833 --> 00:36:04,533
Moses is associated with
A miraculous staff.
650
00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:09,967
When he first encounters god
At the burning bush,
651
00:36:10,067 --> 00:36:14,167
He has this staff with him,
And god says that he would imbue
652
00:36:14,267 --> 00:36:17,067
This staff with
Miraculous powers.
653
00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:21,167
Kirkpatrick: a magician always
Has a wand or a staff.
654
00:36:21,267 --> 00:36:22,367
It's like a conduit
655
00:36:22,467 --> 00:36:26,100
For focusing his will
And controlling the energies
656
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,267
And making things happen,
657
00:36:27,367 --> 00:36:30,300
Effecting change -- it's
A kind of directional tool.
658
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,633
Even today, druids,
Magicians, will use
659
00:36:33,733 --> 00:36:36,067
A wand or a staff
In their practice.
660
00:36:39,567 --> 00:36:42,367
Narrator: intriguingly,
Graham phillips believes
661
00:36:42,467 --> 00:36:46,267
He knows where this mythical
Relic is kept today.
662
00:36:46,367 --> 00:36:50,600
His theory relies on moses's
Link to snakes.
663
00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:54,967
It's said that moses's staff
Was once turned into a serpent,
664
00:36:55,067 --> 00:36:59,067
And an intriguing snake-themed
Monument has been discovered
665
00:36:59,167 --> 00:37:00,100
At petra.
666
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,800
Phillips: in the mid-1800s,
667
00:37:05,900 --> 00:37:08,800
A cave
Near the snake monument was
668
00:37:08,900 --> 00:37:11,567
Excavated by a couple of
English archaeologists
669
00:37:11,667 --> 00:37:13,567
And they found a tomb there.
670
00:37:13,667 --> 00:37:16,900
There was no body any longer
In it, but it didn't have a few
671
00:37:17,067 --> 00:37:18,400
Items remaining,
672
00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:22,967
The most important of which
Was a staff with egyptian
673
00:37:23,067 --> 00:37:27,200
Hieroglyphics on it,
An egyptian staff
674
00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:29,933
At the city of petra
675
00:37:30,067 --> 00:37:32,067
In southern jordan.
676
00:37:35,767 --> 00:37:36,800
What was it doing there?
677
00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:40,833
Clearly, somebody from egypt
Had been buried
678
00:37:40,933 --> 00:37:43,600
In this tomb
Below the snake monument.
679
00:37:46,767 --> 00:37:50,233
Now, if my theory is
All right,
680
00:37:50,333 --> 00:37:53,100
Then the snake monument
681
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:58,367
Is erected in memory of moses,
And this tomb could be
682
00:37:58,467 --> 00:38:01,333
The tomb of
An historical moses.
683
00:38:04,933 --> 00:38:06,833
Narrator: so could
This discovery really be
684
00:38:06,933 --> 00:38:08,833
Moses's legendary staff?
685
00:38:09,867 --> 00:38:12,133
For such a possibly important
Artifact for
686
00:38:12,233 --> 00:38:14,633
Three of the world's
Main religions,
687
00:38:14,733 --> 00:38:18,100
Its home today is in
A quiet corner of england.
688
00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:24,267
The staff of moses,
Today, is here
689
00:38:24,367 --> 00:38:27,633
At the birmingham museum
In central england.
690
00:38:29,500 --> 00:38:33,133
Upon the staff there are
Hieroglyphics telling us
691
00:38:33,233 --> 00:38:37,500
That the staff had belonged
To someone called thutmosis,
692
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,300
Who held a high position at
693
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:45,233
The egyptian court
Around about 1350 bc.
694
00:38:46,267 --> 00:38:49,467
Now the historical moses,
695
00:38:49,567 --> 00:38:52,367
According to my research, was
696
00:38:52,467 --> 00:38:57,467
A man called thutmosis, who held
Just such a position at exactly
697
00:38:57,567 --> 00:39:00,633
The time that moses
Is said to have been
698
00:39:00,733 --> 00:39:03,767
High in the egyptian court.
699
00:39:03,867 --> 00:39:08,633
As such, the staff of
Thutmosis could be one
700
00:39:08,733 --> 00:39:12,600
And the same as the staff
Of the biblical moses.
701
00:39:16,500 --> 00:39:18,667
Narrator: it may be debatable
Whether the staff in
702
00:39:18,767 --> 00:39:21,100
The birmingham museum
Is really that of
703
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:22,900
The biblical moses,
704
00:39:23,067 --> 00:39:24,533
But the egyptian
Influence over
705
00:39:24,633 --> 00:39:26,367
This religious figure
Was strong.
706
00:39:29,867 --> 00:39:32,667
Controversially,
The ten commandments are alleged
707
00:39:32,767 --> 00:39:36,233
To be plagiarized from
An earlier egyptian tradition.
708
00:39:38,567 --> 00:39:41,900
Bianchi: the ten commandments
Are prohibitions that
709
00:39:42,067 --> 00:39:44,200
The faithful, the moral,
The ethical
710
00:39:44,300 --> 00:39:46,067
Should not indulge in.
711
00:39:46,133 --> 00:39:49,967
Don't covet your neighbor's
Wife, don't commit adultery,
712
00:39:50,067 --> 00:39:52,433
Don't murder
An individual, etcetera.
713
00:39:52,533 --> 00:39:54,067
And the interesting
Thing about
714
00:39:54,133 --> 00:39:57,100
The ten commandments is
They resonate
715
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,067
With the so-called
Negative confession
716
00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:00,833
Chapter 125 of the book
Of the dead
717
00:40:00,933 --> 00:40:02,067
Of the ancient egyptians.
718
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,033
Pinknett: this was a formula,
Lines, if you like,
719
00:40:07,133 --> 00:40:10,033
That they had to learn
To say in the afterlife
720
00:40:10,133 --> 00:40:11,800
When they were
In the halls of justice,
721
00:40:11,900 --> 00:40:13,667
And their souls were being
Weighed in the balance,
722
00:40:13,767 --> 00:40:15,400
And they stood there,
And they said,
723
00:40:15,500 --> 00:40:17,233
"I have not committed adultery.
724
00:40:17,333 --> 00:40:19,333
"I have not borne
False witness.
725
00:40:19,433 --> 00:40:20,700
I have not killed."
726
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,967
And it was supposed to
Get you off
727
00:40:24,067 --> 00:40:25,967
All the punishments
Of the afterlife.
728
00:40:27,367 --> 00:40:32,867
Gough: did moses draw upon
An earlier edict
729
00:40:32,967 --> 00:40:36,733
And say they were written
By the finger of god?
730
00:40:40,733 --> 00:40:42,267
Narrator:
Without concrete evidence,
731
00:40:42,367 --> 00:40:44,867
The historical
And biblical moses
732
00:40:44,967 --> 00:40:47,633
Will probably remain
Elusive forever.
733
00:40:48,833 --> 00:40:52,233
But these tantalizing clues
Might just give us
734
00:40:52,333 --> 00:40:54,033
A glimpse of the real man.
735
00:40:56,167 --> 00:40:58,567
Young-somers: in my view,
Moses may have been
736
00:40:58,667 --> 00:41:00,200
A real figure who lived,
737
00:41:00,300 --> 00:41:04,067
But I don't know, and I like
The not knowing, and for me,
738
00:41:04,167 --> 00:41:06,633
Actually, the importance
Isn't whether
739
00:41:06,733 --> 00:41:08,567
Or not moses literally lived.
740
00:41:09,667 --> 00:41:11,333
Gough: moses appears
To have been an archetype,
741
00:41:11,433 --> 00:41:14,400
But if he was
An historical person,
742
00:41:14,500 --> 00:41:19,233
I know of no better historical
Inspiration than that of
743
00:41:19,333 --> 00:41:22,067
The heretic king
Who introduced monotheism,
744
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:23,800
Akhenaten.
745
00:41:27,933 --> 00:41:30,933
Even when the egyptians
Lose a battle,
746
00:41:31,067 --> 00:41:33,133
They portray themselves
As the victors.
747
00:41:33,233 --> 00:41:36,167
So it's very, very hard for me
To believe that a story
748
00:41:36,267 --> 00:41:37,533
That paints the egyptians
749
00:41:37,633 --> 00:41:39,733
In such a horrible light
Could have
750
00:41:39,833 --> 00:41:42,167
Possibly had
An egyptian origin.
751
00:41:43,233 --> 00:41:45,467
Young-somers: I think
It's inevitable that,
752
00:41:45,567 --> 00:41:47,800
As such an important figure,
753
00:41:47,900 --> 00:41:51,233
He's going to create
Interest and intrigue,
754
00:41:51,333 --> 00:41:54,767
And we're going to want to try
To understand as much as we can,
755
00:41:54,867 --> 00:41:56,433
Because there is so much
That's interesting
756
00:41:56,533 --> 00:41:57,967
And so much
That's mysterious.
757
00:41:58,067 --> 00:42:03,233
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