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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,233 --> 00:00:02,400 Narrator: The vatican in rome 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,300 Is the world's smallest Sovereign state. 3 00:00:04,300 --> 00:00:07,300 But with over a billion Catholic followers worldwide, 4 00:00:07,300 --> 00:00:09,667 From here, the pope presides Over a powerful, 5 00:00:09,667 --> 00:00:12,733 Lucrative, and secretive Religious empire. 6 00:00:12,733 --> 00:00:15,233 Felix: the whole of the vatican And the catholic church 7 00:00:15,233 --> 00:00:17,333 Is full of secrets 8 00:00:17,333 --> 00:00:22,500 Because of what it's done Over the last 2,000 years. 9 00:00:22,500 --> 00:00:24,033 Narrator: Many of the greatest secrets 10 00:00:24,033 --> 00:00:26,367 The vatican has tried to hide Over the years 11 00:00:26,367 --> 00:00:28,667 Aren't ancient history, However, 12 00:00:28,667 --> 00:00:30,833 But modern. 13 00:00:30,833 --> 00:00:34,833 There are persistent rumors About close links 14 00:00:34,833 --> 00:00:37,833 Between the vatican bank And the mafia. 15 00:00:37,833 --> 00:00:39,767 Narrator: there are Very serious allegations 16 00:00:39,767 --> 00:00:41,133 That during world war ii, 17 00:00:41,133 --> 00:00:43,400 The vatican collaborated With the nazis. 18 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,967 You can find actual documents That show 19 00:00:46,967 --> 00:00:50,167 That members of the vatican Helped nazis escape. 20 00:00:50,167 --> 00:00:53,533 Narrator: And surprisingly, it's claimed The vatican operates a telescope 21 00:00:53,533 --> 00:00:55,867 To secretly search for aliens. 22 00:00:55,867 --> 00:00:57,433 Peck: if they believe That jesus christ 23 00:00:57,433 --> 00:00:58,767 Is gonna return as an alien, 24 00:00:58,767 --> 00:01:00,433 Wouldn't they want to use This telescope 25 00:01:00,433 --> 00:01:03,067 To try to make contact With him first? 26 00:01:03,067 --> 00:01:05,800 Gough: I would like to see A whistleblower come forward 27 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,800 And tell the secrets They've been withholding. 28 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,900 Then we could properly Rewrite history. 29 00:01:12,900 --> 00:01:15,900 -- captions by vitac -- Www.Vitac.Com 30 00:01:15,900 --> 00:01:18,900 Captions paid for by Discovery communications 31 00:01:18,900 --> 00:01:42,067 * 32 00:01:42,067 --> 00:01:44,500 Narrator: securely housed Deep inside the vatican 33 00:01:44,500 --> 00:01:46,800 Are the vatican Apostolic archive, 34 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,067 Known until recently As the vatican secret archive, 35 00:01:50,067 --> 00:01:52,767 Containing the catholic church's Most important 36 00:01:52,767 --> 00:01:55,067 And potentially Controversial documents, 37 00:01:55,067 --> 00:01:57,933 Including the private papers Of every pope 38 00:01:57,933 --> 00:02:00,633 Stretching back 1,000 years. 39 00:02:00,633 --> 00:02:05,767 The vatican secret archives, Or "Archivum secretum," 40 00:02:05,767 --> 00:02:11,067 Actually, genuinely only means "Private archives" in latin. 41 00:02:11,067 --> 00:02:14,067 The word "Secret" Doesn't really come into it, 42 00:02:14,067 --> 00:02:16,400 But there's no doubt That an awful lot of 43 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,367 What's in those vaults Is most definitely secrets. 44 00:02:20,367 --> 00:02:24,633 There's 50 miles of shelving, 45 00:02:24,633 --> 00:02:27,067 And you're only allowed To see certain parts 46 00:02:27,067 --> 00:02:29,800 'cause there's an awful lot In there, in that 50 miles 47 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,700 That I believe The catholic church 48 00:02:31,700 --> 00:02:36,333 Doesn't want anyone To find out about. 49 00:02:36,333 --> 00:02:40,367 Narrator: Scholars are allowed limited Access to the secret archive. 50 00:02:40,367 --> 00:02:43,533 But significantly, All vatican documents 51 00:02:43,533 --> 00:02:46,900 And private papers of the pope Can only be accessed 52 00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:51,200 At least 70 years after the end Of a pope's reign. 53 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,100 As a result, it's usually Necessary to wait 54 00:02:54,100 --> 00:02:56,433 For three-quarters of a century 55 00:02:56,433 --> 00:02:59,867 Before there's any hope Of finding out the secret truth 56 00:02:59,867 --> 00:03:03,400 About the vatican's Controversial scandals. 57 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,833 The vatican has to be one of The most secret organizations 58 00:03:07,833 --> 00:03:09,667 In the history of the world. 59 00:03:09,667 --> 00:03:13,300 It guards Its nasty little secrets, 60 00:03:13,300 --> 00:03:16,467 Of which there are a great many, Jealously. 61 00:03:16,467 --> 00:03:18,467 Narrator: it has been alleged, For example, 62 00:03:18,467 --> 00:03:21,533 That the vatican Collaborated with the nazis. 63 00:03:21,533 --> 00:03:25,600 The vatican and some historians Strongly dispute this. 64 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,233 But until now, The truth has been hidden 65 00:03:28,233 --> 00:03:30,233 Because the vatican's documents 66 00:03:30,233 --> 00:03:32,900 Written during The second world war 67 00:03:32,900 --> 00:03:37,600 Have remained inaccessible In the secret archive. 68 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,767 Bellinger: pope pius xii Was pontiff during world war ii, 69 00:03:40,767 --> 00:03:43,933 And as such, Had a great deal of contact 70 00:03:43,933 --> 00:03:45,300 With the nazi leadership, 71 00:03:45,300 --> 00:03:47,300 As well as The allied leadership. 72 00:03:47,300 --> 00:03:51,067 He officially maintained A position of neutrality, 73 00:03:51,067 --> 00:03:55,667 Being in the vatican, in the Absolute heart of fascist italy. 74 00:03:55,667 --> 00:03:58,167 But there's been Great speculation 75 00:03:58,167 --> 00:04:02,467 Over how much he did and did not Appease the nazis. 76 00:04:02,467 --> 00:04:06,833 Narrator: Some people say that, in fact, Behind the scenes, pope pius xii 77 00:04:06,833 --> 00:04:12,100 And the vatican secretly Undermined the nazi regime. 78 00:04:12,100 --> 00:04:16,900 Felix: in my opinion, I believe That the pope and his cardinals 79 00:04:16,900 --> 00:04:22,267 Were actually helping to save The lives of thousands of jews 80 00:04:22,267 --> 00:04:25,067 By harboring them, Hiding them in their churches, 81 00:04:25,067 --> 00:04:28,500 Getting them out of the country -- either out of italy, 82 00:04:28,500 --> 00:04:32,367 Out of other countries -- And saving their lives. 83 00:04:32,367 --> 00:04:35,933 Narrator: critics, however, have Claimed the complete opposite, 84 00:04:35,933 --> 00:04:40,067 Calling pope pius xii "Hitler's pope." 85 00:04:40,067 --> 00:04:43,933 In particular, the very Serious allegation has been made 86 00:04:43,933 --> 00:04:46,333 That the pope was antisemitic 87 00:04:46,333 --> 00:04:49,600 And ignored evidence Of the holocaust. 88 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,100 The fierce controversy About the vatican's role 89 00:04:52,100 --> 00:04:55,967 During world war ii Continues to rage. 90 00:04:55,967 --> 00:04:58,900 So in hope of showing That pope pius xii 91 00:04:58,900 --> 00:05:02,200 Really was An anti-nazi humanitarian, 92 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,200 Not a pro-nazi collaborator, 93 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,633 The current pontiff, The reforming pope francis, 94 00:05:09,633 --> 00:05:13,067 Made the unusual decision To allow early access 95 00:05:13,067 --> 00:05:16,400 To the vatican's wartime Secret archive. 96 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,067 Scholars were able to view These materials 97 00:05:19,067 --> 00:05:22,533 Beginning in early 2020. 98 00:05:22,533 --> 00:05:24,233 Bellinger: Pope francis has just made 99 00:05:24,233 --> 00:05:26,067 A really exciting announcement 100 00:05:26,067 --> 00:05:28,867 That he is going to release, Nine years early, 101 00:05:28,867 --> 00:05:31,233 The archives of pope pius xii, 102 00:05:31,233 --> 00:05:34,400 Whose records may or may not Contain evidence 103 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:39,167 Damning the church and how It reacted to the nazi threat. 104 00:05:39,167 --> 00:05:43,167 Narrator: did pope pius xii turn A blind eye to the holocaust 105 00:05:43,167 --> 00:05:46,667 And the nazi's policy Of genocide? 106 00:05:46,667 --> 00:05:50,533 Or did he help save Thousands of jews? 107 00:05:50,533 --> 00:05:53,433 Did the vatican help Leading nazis escape justice 108 00:05:53,433 --> 00:05:59,067 After the end of world war ii, As has been alleged? 109 00:05:59,067 --> 00:06:02,167 With access to The vatican's wartime archive, 110 00:06:02,167 --> 00:06:05,067 Historians should have Clearer answers, 111 00:06:05,067 --> 00:06:07,833 Although it could take Scholars years to review 112 00:06:07,833 --> 00:06:13,867 And make conclusions from all The newly released materials. 113 00:06:13,867 --> 00:06:15,400 Walters: there's this Long-standing story 114 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,400 That says the vatican helped Nazis escape after the war. 115 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,433 Why? Because a lot Of catholic priests 116 00:06:21,433 --> 00:06:24,633 Were historically Quite sympathetic to nazism 117 00:06:24,633 --> 00:06:28,367 Because they saw nazism as being The only force in the world 118 00:06:28,367 --> 00:06:30,067 That could stand up To communism, 119 00:06:30,067 --> 00:06:32,867 Which they thought represented An existential threat 120 00:06:32,867 --> 00:06:35,067 To the catholic church. So it was kind of like, 121 00:06:35,067 --> 00:06:37,500 You know, My enemy's enemy is my friend. 122 00:06:37,500 --> 00:06:38,900 Narrator: Because over the years, 123 00:06:38,900 --> 00:06:41,733 In small catholic archives Scattered across europe, 124 00:06:41,733 --> 00:06:44,300 Historians have discovered Startling evidence 125 00:06:44,300 --> 00:06:47,100 About what the church did In 1945 126 00:06:47,100 --> 00:06:49,633 After the nazis lost the war. 127 00:06:51,667 --> 00:06:55,300 I went to the archives Of the santa maria dell'anima, 128 00:06:55,300 --> 00:06:59,067 Which is the austrian church Associated with the vatican. 129 00:06:59,067 --> 00:07:01,233 And there, you see The records of a man 130 00:07:01,233 --> 00:07:04,700 Called bishop alois hudal, Luigi hudal. 131 00:07:04,700 --> 00:07:07,700 He was an austrian nationalist, Loved the nazis. 132 00:07:07,700 --> 00:07:11,200 And you have got there Letters written to him 133 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,067 By the likes of franz stangl. 134 00:07:13,067 --> 00:07:14,767 Now, you may not know Franz stangl, 135 00:07:14,767 --> 00:07:16,800 But he's one of the biggest Mass murderers 136 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,233 Of the 20th century 137 00:07:18,233 --> 00:07:22,367 Because he was the commandant Of treblinka extermination camp, 138 00:07:22,367 --> 00:07:27,300 And under his time, murdered An estimated 850,000 people. 139 00:07:27,300 --> 00:07:30,967 And he is writing to a bishop Associated with the vatican 140 00:07:30,967 --> 00:07:33,633 Saying, "Please, can you Help me get out?" 141 00:07:33,633 --> 00:07:35,633 If you're being vouched for By a bishop today, 142 00:07:35,633 --> 00:07:37,800 That still carries A lot of weight, doesn't it? 143 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,733 And so a lot of these nazis, They would make their way 144 00:07:40,733 --> 00:07:42,533 Through What was the third reich, 145 00:07:42,533 --> 00:07:46,567 Down over the alps into italy, And they would go to rome. 146 00:07:46,567 --> 00:07:48,667 They would knock on the door Of bishop hudal, 147 00:07:48,667 --> 00:07:50,633 And he would give them A red cross passport. 148 00:07:50,633 --> 00:07:53,267 Then they would take a boat To that most favored 149 00:07:53,267 --> 00:07:57,133 Nazi retirement destination, Argentina. 150 00:07:57,133 --> 00:07:59,300 Narrator: given these Shocking revelations 151 00:07:59,300 --> 00:08:00,867 That have already been Discovered 152 00:08:00,867 --> 00:08:04,167 In small catholic archives Across europe, 153 00:08:04,167 --> 00:08:07,267 Historians anxiously await What will be revealed 154 00:08:07,267 --> 00:08:11,300 In the newest documents Released by the vatican. 155 00:08:11,300 --> 00:08:15,833 But this isn't the only mystery Surrounding pope pius xii. 156 00:08:15,833 --> 00:08:19,067 It's also been alleged That the vatican bank, 157 00:08:19,067 --> 00:08:22,067 Which he founded During world war ii, 158 00:08:22,067 --> 00:08:24,433 Profited financially From collaboration 159 00:08:24,433 --> 00:08:26,967 With the nazi regime. 160 00:08:26,967 --> 00:08:29,967 Perhaps the opening Of the secret archive 161 00:08:29,967 --> 00:08:33,100 Will reveal the truth About this, too. 162 00:08:34,900 --> 00:08:41,700 * 163 00:08:41,700 --> 00:08:43,800 Narrator: over the years, It has been alleged 164 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,100 That the vatican collaborated With the nazis 165 00:08:46,100 --> 00:08:48,200 During world war ii. 166 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,067 This very controversial claim Is strongly disputed 167 00:08:51,067 --> 00:08:53,800 By the vatican And some historians. 168 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,967 But in addition to evidence Of key nazi officials 169 00:08:56,967 --> 00:09:00,333 Being helped to escape justice After the war, 170 00:09:00,333 --> 00:09:01,933 It's also claimed That the vatican 171 00:09:01,933 --> 00:09:04,967 Profited financially From the nazi regime. 172 00:09:08,333 --> 00:09:11,067 The vatican are The most powerful 173 00:09:11,067 --> 00:09:14,567 And secretive country On the planet. 174 00:09:14,567 --> 00:09:17,400 Not only have they Dished out the dogma 175 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,867 For thousands of years To the faithful, 176 00:09:20,867 --> 00:09:24,600 Just feeding them fairy tale Under the guise of truth, 177 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,267 But they are concealing Documents and relics 178 00:09:27,267 --> 00:09:30,967 That would rewrite history. 179 00:09:30,967 --> 00:09:33,800 Narrator: historian and author John dickie is an expert 180 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,067 On the secretive world Of the vatican -- 181 00:09:36,067 --> 00:09:39,100 And in particular, The numerous financial scandals 182 00:09:39,100 --> 00:09:41,333 That have been linked To the organization. 183 00:09:43,367 --> 00:09:44,700 Dickie: So, here we are. 184 00:09:44,700 --> 00:09:47,500 This is the vatican city, The vatican state. 185 00:09:47,500 --> 00:09:50,267 I think the frontier Is right here. 186 00:09:50,267 --> 00:09:53,867 It's the smallest Sovereign state in the world. 187 00:09:53,867 --> 00:09:58,300 But despite being so tiny In global scale, 188 00:09:58,300 --> 00:10:00,567 It wields huge influence -- 189 00:10:00,567 --> 00:10:04,100 Obviously, culturally And spiritually, 190 00:10:04,100 --> 00:10:06,867 But also financially. 191 00:10:06,867 --> 00:10:10,333 Narrator: At the center of the vatican's Vast financial interests 192 00:10:10,333 --> 00:10:11,967 Is the vatican bank, 193 00:10:11,967 --> 00:10:13,733 Which in its current form Was founded 194 00:10:13,733 --> 00:10:17,133 During world war ii By pope pius xii. 195 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,100 What's termed the vatican bank Is actually properly called 196 00:10:23,100 --> 00:10:26,100 The institute For the works of religion. 197 00:10:26,100 --> 00:10:28,333 And it's a private bank. 198 00:10:28,333 --> 00:10:31,067 It's situated Within the vatican, 199 00:10:31,067 --> 00:10:33,767 And it's directly accountable To the pope. 200 00:10:33,767 --> 00:10:36,700 Now, it's not The most transparent institution 201 00:10:36,700 --> 00:10:38,533 On the planet, It has to be said. 202 00:10:38,533 --> 00:10:41,667 So what its wealth is, We're not entirely sure. 203 00:10:41,667 --> 00:10:43,367 But given that The catholic church 204 00:10:43,367 --> 00:10:46,167 Has been around for 2,000 years, I think it's fair to say 205 00:10:46,167 --> 00:10:49,667 That its assets Are going to be considerable. 206 00:10:49,667 --> 00:10:53,133 Narrator: in fact, the current Assets of the vatican bank 207 00:10:53,133 --> 00:10:55,233 Have recently been estimated 208 00:10:55,233 --> 00:10:59,467 At significantly more Than $5 billion. 209 00:10:59,467 --> 00:11:01,867 Selwood: The vatican bank is not a bank Like you and I would know, 210 00:11:01,867 --> 00:11:04,367 Where they lend money And you can get a mortgage. 211 00:11:04,367 --> 00:11:06,867 It houses and distributes money 212 00:11:06,867 --> 00:11:09,433 For religious and charitable Works around the world. 213 00:11:09,433 --> 00:11:11,867 That's its publicly Stated mission. 214 00:11:11,867 --> 00:11:14,167 Narrator: today, Much of the vatican's funds 215 00:11:14,167 --> 00:11:18,700 Derive from charitable donations By loyal catholics worldwide. 216 00:11:18,700 --> 00:11:20,433 But during world war ii, 217 00:11:20,433 --> 00:11:24,467 As a result of a controversial Pact signed with the nazis, 218 00:11:24,467 --> 00:11:27,067 The vatican bank received Huge amounts of money 219 00:11:27,067 --> 00:11:30,067 From hitler's regime Via a church tax 220 00:11:30,067 --> 00:11:32,333 On citizens of the third reich. 221 00:11:34,300 --> 00:11:36,067 There have also been allegations 222 00:11:36,067 --> 00:11:38,133 That much of the money And gold looted 223 00:11:38,133 --> 00:11:42,100 By the nazis from the jews And others in occupied europe 224 00:11:42,100 --> 00:11:47,067 May have ended up in the vaults Of the vatican bank. 225 00:11:47,067 --> 00:11:49,667 Perhaps the opening Of pope pius' archive 226 00:11:49,667 --> 00:11:53,700 Will reveal the truth About this, too. 227 00:11:53,700 --> 00:11:56,133 The vatican bank's history Since world war ii 228 00:11:56,133 --> 00:11:58,500 Has been equally murky. 229 00:11:58,500 --> 00:12:01,100 There have been many Major scandals, 230 00:12:01,100 --> 00:12:05,400 With allegations of massive Corruption and money laundering. 231 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,233 Walters: the interesting thing About the whole story 232 00:12:07,233 --> 00:12:10,100 Of the vatican bank Corruption -- 233 00:12:10,100 --> 00:12:14,633 It's all mixed up with The byzantine world of the mafia 234 00:12:14,633 --> 00:12:16,400 And italian politics. 235 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,567 You can't imagine a more Conspiratorial society 236 00:12:19,567 --> 00:12:21,267 In the world than italy. 237 00:12:21,267 --> 00:12:25,133 The italians are absolutely Obsessed with conspiracy theory, 238 00:12:25,133 --> 00:12:26,600 And they always assume, 239 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,567 You know, The worst behind any story. 240 00:12:28,567 --> 00:12:31,400 And they always assume That everybody is corrupt. 241 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,433 You know, They're probably right. 242 00:12:36,067 --> 00:12:41,067 Narrator: In 1978, the 65-year-old Pope john paul I mysteriously 243 00:12:41,067 --> 00:12:45,767 And suddenly died, just 33 days After he'd been elected. 244 00:12:45,767 --> 00:12:49,267 It was reported that he died Naturally of a cardiac arrest, 245 00:12:49,267 --> 00:12:52,167 But ever since, conspiracy Theorists have speculated 246 00:12:52,167 --> 00:12:54,700 That, in fact, he was murdered. 247 00:12:57,233 --> 00:13:00,633 Felix: pope john paul I Allegedly died 248 00:13:00,633 --> 00:13:02,967 Of a heart attack, But the problem is 249 00:13:02,967 --> 00:13:10,133 That he was big-time trying To reform the vatican. 250 00:13:10,133 --> 00:13:13,967 Narrator: the alleged murder Of pope john paul I in 1978 251 00:13:13,967 --> 00:13:16,833 Subsequently inspired The plot line of the famous, 252 00:13:16,833 --> 00:13:20,100 Apparently fictional, movie "Godfather iii," 253 00:13:20,100 --> 00:13:24,133 A film which some claim Is actually based on fact. 254 00:13:24,133 --> 00:13:25,800 Mcmahon: At the center of the movie 255 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:30,200 Is this idea of the mafia And the vatican bank 256 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:31,867 In league with each other 257 00:13:31,867 --> 00:13:36,200 And a new pope coming in who Wants to expose this corruption, 258 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,067 And then dies. 259 00:13:40,067 --> 00:13:41,867 Narrator: One remarkable theory claims 260 00:13:41,867 --> 00:13:44,500 That pope john paul I Was murdered 261 00:13:44,500 --> 00:13:46,200 Because he was planning To expose 262 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,100 The criminal business practices 263 00:13:48,100 --> 00:13:53,233 Between the vatican bank, Banco ambrosiano, and the mafia. 264 00:13:53,233 --> 00:13:55,433 Other, even more sensational Allegations 265 00:13:55,433 --> 00:13:58,500 Have been made against The archbishop marcinkus, 266 00:13:58,500 --> 00:14:00,767 The american head Of the vatican bank 267 00:14:00,767 --> 00:14:04,733 At the time of the pope's death. 268 00:14:04,733 --> 00:14:08,533 In the best-selling 1980s book "In god's name" by david yallop, 269 00:14:08,533 --> 00:14:10,867 Which covered The conspiracy theories 270 00:14:10,867 --> 00:14:15,700 Around the death of john paul I, Marcinkus was heavily implicated 271 00:14:15,700 --> 00:14:20,067 As being complicit In that crime. 272 00:14:20,067 --> 00:14:23,500 Narrator: These remarkable allegations Have recently been corroborated 273 00:14:23,500 --> 00:14:26,233 By a cousin Of archbishop marcinkus -- 274 00:14:26,233 --> 00:14:29,067 U.S. Mobster anthony raimondi, 275 00:14:29,067 --> 00:14:34,067 The nephew of infamous mafia Gangster lucky luciano. 276 00:14:34,067 --> 00:14:39,333 In 2019, raimondi confessed That in 1978, he traveled 277 00:14:39,333 --> 00:14:42,167 To the vatican to help His cousin the archbishop 278 00:14:42,167 --> 00:14:46,867 Poison john paul I with cyanide In order to prevent the pope 279 00:14:46,867 --> 00:14:51,067 From exposing the vatican bank's Billion-dollar financial scam. 280 00:14:53,667 --> 00:14:57,400 Unsurprisingly, the vatican Vehemently denies 281 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,400 That pope john paul I Was murdered. 282 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,233 What is the truth? 283 00:15:02,233 --> 00:15:04,933 Perhaps john paul I's Private papers 284 00:15:04,933 --> 00:15:07,533 Will contain Decisive new evidence. 285 00:15:07,533 --> 00:15:10,900 But as the vatican waits 70 years after a pope's reign 286 00:15:10,900 --> 00:15:13,500 Before opening up Their secret archive, 287 00:15:13,500 --> 00:15:16,567 The definitive truth, If it finally comes, 288 00:15:16,567 --> 00:15:19,867 Won't be revealed until 2048. 289 00:15:22,667 --> 00:15:25,500 Walters: I'm sure that there's Some really exciting stuff 290 00:15:25,500 --> 00:15:27,067 In the secret archive, 291 00:15:27,067 --> 00:15:30,333 And which historian wouldn't Want to have the key to it? 292 00:15:30,333 --> 00:15:32,833 You know, god, I would. I would bet my -- 293 00:15:32,833 --> 00:15:36,500 You know, sell my house And my entire family twice 294 00:15:36,500 --> 00:15:38,867 If I could get the key to the Secret archive of the vatican, 295 00:15:38,867 --> 00:15:41,900 But I'm never gonna get it. 296 00:15:41,900 --> 00:15:44,567 Narrator: but the conspiracies Don't end there. 297 00:15:44,567 --> 00:15:47,867 Four years later, Some of the very same players 298 00:15:47,867 --> 00:15:50,467 Accused of being involved In the pope's murder 299 00:15:50,467 --> 00:15:52,533 Would allegedly go on To perpetrate 300 00:15:52,533 --> 00:15:55,100 The very public death Of a financier 301 00:15:55,100 --> 00:15:57,200 So closely linked To the vatican, 302 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,367 He was known as "God's banker." 303 00:16:01,900 --> 00:16:08,067 * 304 00:16:08,067 --> 00:16:10,500 Narrator: over the years, The vatican has been embroiled 305 00:16:10,500 --> 00:16:13,667 In massive financial scandals. 306 00:16:13,667 --> 00:16:16,667 During the 1970s and '80s In particular, 307 00:16:16,667 --> 00:16:18,267 Corruption at the vatican bank 308 00:16:18,267 --> 00:16:21,367 Is said to have occurred On a vast scale. 309 00:16:21,367 --> 00:16:22,867 It's even been alleged that 310 00:16:22,867 --> 00:16:25,133 In an attempt to hide The corruption, 311 00:16:25,133 --> 00:16:30,133 Collusion between the vatican And the mafia led to murder. 312 00:16:30,133 --> 00:16:32,867 Historian john dickie is in rome 313 00:16:32,867 --> 00:16:36,300 To investigate the enduring Mystery of the bizarre death 314 00:16:36,300 --> 00:16:39,700 Of a financier So closely linked to the vatican 315 00:16:39,700 --> 00:16:44,300 That he was nicknamed "God's banker." 316 00:16:44,300 --> 00:16:47,567 Roberto calvi Was an italian banker, 317 00:16:47,567 --> 00:16:51,067 Head of his bank, The banco ambrosiano. 318 00:16:51,067 --> 00:16:57,067 And in june 1982, he was found Hanging by his neck 319 00:16:57,067 --> 00:17:00,733 Under blackfriars bridge In london. 320 00:17:00,733 --> 00:17:04,067 And we still don't know Whether he was murdered 321 00:17:04,067 --> 00:17:05,767 Or whether he committed suicide. 322 00:17:05,767 --> 00:17:08,533 Everybody has their theories. 323 00:17:08,533 --> 00:17:13,367 But his story is A conspiracy theorist's dream. 324 00:17:13,367 --> 00:17:15,367 It's got all the ingredients. 325 00:17:15,367 --> 00:17:18,367 You've got political corruption, 326 00:17:18,367 --> 00:17:22,700 High finance, mafia money, And then, of course, 327 00:17:22,700 --> 00:17:26,533 Last but not least, The catholic church. 328 00:17:26,533 --> 00:17:28,667 Narrator: initially, Roberto calvi's death 329 00:17:28,667 --> 00:17:30,500 Was accepted By the british police 330 00:17:30,500 --> 00:17:32,233 As suicide. 331 00:17:32,233 --> 00:17:34,733 But when other investigators And journalists 332 00:17:34,733 --> 00:17:39,633 Started looking into the case, Suspicions began to emerge. 333 00:17:39,633 --> 00:17:41,467 Bellinger: Calvi's body was discovered 334 00:17:41,467 --> 00:17:43,800 Hanging from a rope From blackfriars bridge 335 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,833 With bricks stuffed In his pocket. 336 00:17:45,833 --> 00:17:48,067 But what doesn't add up here 337 00:17:48,067 --> 00:17:50,467 Is that there were no Scuff marks on his body 338 00:17:50,467 --> 00:17:53,233 That, you know, you would've Seen him clambering up, 339 00:17:53,233 --> 00:17:56,067 Absolutely no brick dust On his hands. 340 00:17:56,067 --> 00:17:59,067 And most damning, it is possible 341 00:17:59,067 --> 00:18:03,667 To reconstruct the tide Of the time he was discovered 342 00:18:03,667 --> 00:18:06,333 And realize that a boat Could have pulled up 343 00:18:06,333 --> 00:18:08,500 Right at the foot of blackfriars 344 00:18:08,500 --> 00:18:12,700 And hung him up In a seeming suicide scene. 345 00:18:12,700 --> 00:18:15,467 One theory about Why robert calvi died 346 00:18:15,467 --> 00:18:17,333 Is that he was really In the pocket of both 347 00:18:17,333 --> 00:18:21,367 The vatican bank on the one hand And the mob on the other, 348 00:18:21,367 --> 00:18:27,667 And that perhaps he got squeezed Between them in a deal gone bad. 349 00:18:27,667 --> 00:18:30,133 Narrator: if roberto calvi's Death was murder 350 00:18:30,133 --> 00:18:33,600 Rather than suicide, Then who killed him? 351 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,233 The mafia has always been The prime suspect, 352 00:18:36,233 --> 00:18:39,367 But over the years, Conspiracy theories have raged 353 00:18:39,367 --> 00:18:42,200 That the vatican Was also involved. 354 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:46,733 Selwood: Banco ambrosiano not only Had contacts with the mafia, 355 00:18:46,733 --> 00:18:51,400 But also, the vatican bank owned A stake in banco ambrosiano. 356 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:52,900 So in no time at all, 357 00:18:52,900 --> 00:18:54,400 All the headlines Around the world 358 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,900 Were saying god's banker Had been murdered 359 00:18:56,900 --> 00:18:59,767 In some dirty Vatican financing story. 360 00:18:59,767 --> 00:19:01,733 No one's ever been Convicted for the murder, 361 00:19:01,733 --> 00:19:05,767 Although five mafia men were Tried in rome and acquitted. 362 00:19:05,767 --> 00:19:07,967 But suspicion Has always remained 363 00:19:07,967 --> 00:19:11,767 That the vatican Was somehow involved. 364 00:19:11,767 --> 00:19:16,433 Narrator: Roberto calvi's death officially Remains a mystery to this day. 365 00:19:16,433 --> 00:19:20,200 If he didn't commit suicide, Then was he killed to stop him 366 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,800 From exposing Sensational secrets? 367 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,733 And if so, who killed him? 368 00:19:26,733 --> 00:19:28,900 To find out Some possible answers, 369 00:19:28,900 --> 00:19:30,867 Historian john dickie is meeting 370 00:19:30,867 --> 00:19:33,533 Investigative journalist Philip willan, 371 00:19:33,533 --> 00:19:36,533 Who has spent years Trying to uncover the truth 372 00:19:36,533 --> 00:19:39,133 About the calvi scandal. 373 00:19:39,133 --> 00:19:41,200 Hello, philip. Very nice to meet you. 374 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:42,400 Pleasure. 375 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,700 So, philip, you've looked At the evidence in detail. 376 00:19:45,700 --> 00:19:50,533 Was calvi "Suicided," As they say in italian? 377 00:19:50,533 --> 00:19:53,767 Or did he commit suicide? 378 00:19:53,767 --> 00:19:58,800 I think the first option Is most likely. 379 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:04,367 The murder trial in rome, Which I followed, 380 00:20:04,367 --> 00:20:08,233 Didn't manage to convict people For his murder. 381 00:20:08,233 --> 00:20:11,233 But at all levels Of the process, 382 00:20:11,233 --> 00:20:14,067 They did conclude that He was murdered -- 383 00:20:14,067 --> 00:20:16,833 Or suicided, as you say -- 384 00:20:16,833 --> 00:20:19,667 Rather than Committing suicide himself. 385 00:20:19,667 --> 00:20:23,767 One of the few things That the court, 386 00:20:23,767 --> 00:20:26,667 At the various levels Of judgment -- 387 00:20:26,667 --> 00:20:28,200 The assize court, appeal, 388 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,367 And then The court of cassation -- 389 00:20:30,367 --> 00:20:32,767 All the courts agreed 390 00:20:32,767 --> 00:20:37,967 Was that the claims That he laundered mafia money 391 00:20:37,967 --> 00:20:42,167 Were believable And that was a fact. 392 00:20:42,167 --> 00:20:43,867 During the official Investigation 393 00:20:43,867 --> 00:20:45,933 Into the death Of god's banker, 394 00:20:45,933 --> 00:20:49,400 The accounts of banco ambrosiano Were examined. 395 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,400 It was discovered That a huge amount of money -- 396 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,567 Around a billion u.S. Dollars Or more -- 397 00:20:55,567 --> 00:20:59,233 Had gone missing Before calvi died. 398 00:20:59,233 --> 00:21:04,200 If mafia bosses Or local crime bosses in rome 399 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,500 Had entrusted Their money to calvi 400 00:21:07,500 --> 00:21:09,833 And it's missing From the accounts, 401 00:21:09,833 --> 00:21:12,433 Sooner or later, they would've Been wanting to get it back. 402 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,433 The death of roberto calvi From banco ambrosiano 403 00:21:18,433 --> 00:21:20,933 Was a scandal for the vatican. 404 00:21:20,933 --> 00:21:22,600 But the evidence That would come out 405 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,267 During the investigation 406 00:21:24,267 --> 00:21:27,267 As to where the money Allegedly went 407 00:21:27,267 --> 00:21:32,367 Would be even more shocking than The mysterious murder itself. 408 00:21:34,067 --> 00:21:40,600 * 409 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,333 Narrator: allegedly, Over the years, 410 00:21:42,333 --> 00:21:46,167 The vatican has been involved In numerous financial scandals, 411 00:21:46,167 --> 00:21:50,800 And none more sensational Than the so-called calvi affair. 412 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,967 When the body of roberto calvi, 413 00:21:52,967 --> 00:21:55,700 Head of the italian Banco ambrosiano, 414 00:21:55,700 --> 00:21:58,933 Was found hanging beneath Blackfriars bridge in london 415 00:21:58,933 --> 00:22:01,167 In june 1982, 416 00:22:01,167 --> 00:22:04,100 Initially, it was thought To be suicide. 417 00:22:04,100 --> 00:22:07,767 But evidence gradually emerged Suggesting that calvi, 418 00:22:07,767 --> 00:22:09,967 Nicknamed god's banker 419 00:22:09,967 --> 00:22:12,567 Due to his very close links To the vatican, 420 00:22:12,567 --> 00:22:16,067 May well have been murdered. 421 00:22:16,067 --> 00:22:21,767 As it's a fact that the vatican And the banco ambrosiano 422 00:22:21,767 --> 00:22:27,733 Were connected with some very Dirty financial transactions 423 00:22:27,733 --> 00:22:30,533 And the chairman of The banco ambrosiano 424 00:22:30,533 --> 00:22:34,500 Was found murdered In very strange circumstances, 425 00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:38,667 One wonders Exactly who had him killed. 426 00:22:38,667 --> 00:22:42,600 Narrator: Exactly why roberto calvi Was killed is not known, 427 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,367 But many people speculate He was involved in the plot 428 00:22:45,367 --> 00:22:48,333 To assassinate Pope john paul I. 429 00:22:48,333 --> 00:22:52,567 Perhaps this same group Then turned on calvi. 430 00:22:52,567 --> 00:22:56,200 During the investigation Into the death of god's banker, 431 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,367 It was also discovered That just before he died, 432 00:22:59,367 --> 00:23:02,100 He tried to blackmail High-powered people 433 00:23:02,100 --> 00:23:03,833 Who might fear being connected 434 00:23:03,833 --> 00:23:07,433 To his bank's Illegal activities. 435 00:23:07,433 --> 00:23:10,267 Should it collapse As a result of its debts, 436 00:23:10,267 --> 00:23:15,300 Calvi wanted them to provide him With the missing money. 437 00:23:15,300 --> 00:23:18,633 To find out more, Historian john dickie is meeting 438 00:23:18,633 --> 00:23:21,267 Investigative journalist Philip willan, 439 00:23:21,267 --> 00:23:26,233 Who has spent years uncovering The truth about the scandal. 440 00:23:26,233 --> 00:23:28,767 I do personally think That he was murdered. 441 00:23:28,767 --> 00:23:31,533 And I do think that It probably was related 442 00:23:31,533 --> 00:23:34,700 To his blackmail attempts. 443 00:23:34,700 --> 00:23:38,600 He's desperately trying To save his financial empire, 444 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,900 And he's threatening anybody Who he thinks he has dirt on. 445 00:23:42,900 --> 00:23:47,233 And that includes the vatican And archbishop paul marcinkus, 446 00:23:47,233 --> 00:23:50,567 The american head Of the vatican bank. 447 00:23:50,567 --> 00:23:54,333 He writes letters, Rather threatening letters, 448 00:23:54,333 --> 00:23:57,800 To the pope himself. 449 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,633 The reason for the attempted Blackmail was because, 450 00:24:00,633 --> 00:24:02,967 As the italian courts Discovered, 451 00:24:02,967 --> 00:24:05,400 A significant amount Of mafia money 452 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,700 Was laundered Through the vatican bank -- 453 00:24:07,700 --> 00:24:10,733 Banco ambrosiano's Main shareholder. 454 00:24:10,733 --> 00:24:12,900 The key question For investigators 455 00:24:12,900 --> 00:24:16,933 Was whether The vatican bank knew this. 456 00:24:16,933 --> 00:24:19,633 Although wrongdoing Was never admitted, 457 00:24:19,633 --> 00:24:23,467 The vatican bank later paid Over $200 million 458 00:24:23,467 --> 00:24:25,800 To banco ambrosiano's creditors, 459 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,700 Said to be in recognition 460 00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:32,500 Of the vatican bank's moral Involvement in the scandal. 461 00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:36,633 Another key question was Where the missing money went. 462 00:24:36,633 --> 00:24:38,800 Conspiracy theorists Point to the fact 463 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,233 That archbishop paul marcinkus, An american, 464 00:24:42,233 --> 00:24:47,667 Was head of the vatican bank Throughout the 1970s and '80s. 465 00:24:47,667 --> 00:24:51,133 At this time, during the Cold war with the soviet union, 466 00:24:51,133 --> 00:24:54,633 The church was being suppressed Behind the iron curtain. 467 00:24:54,633 --> 00:24:57,133 So the interests of the cia And the vatican 468 00:24:57,133 --> 00:24:58,867 In fighting communism 469 00:24:58,867 --> 00:25:01,133 Allegedly coincided. 470 00:25:03,567 --> 00:25:06,267 The links aren't there to be Seen completely in public. 471 00:25:06,267 --> 00:25:08,067 It's just that There are connections 472 00:25:08,067 --> 00:25:09,633 Which are very damning. 473 00:25:09,633 --> 00:25:12,800 It's believed that the vatican Was channeling funds 474 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,300 To, for example, The contras in nicaragua 475 00:25:15,300 --> 00:25:17,067 And solidarity in poland 476 00:25:17,067 --> 00:25:20,067 Through the banco ambrosiano. 477 00:25:20,067 --> 00:25:22,400 Narrator: in return For political protection, 478 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,400 It's claimed That the mafia agreed 479 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,367 To provide much of the money. 480 00:25:27,367 --> 00:25:31,800 At that time, the mafia was A potential ally 481 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,200 In the war Against communism. 482 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,067 It was a conservative Organization. 483 00:25:37,067 --> 00:25:41,433 It was, in many cases, Linked to the catholic church, 484 00:25:41,433 --> 00:25:45,867 As a lot of mafia bosses Were devout in their own way. 485 00:25:45,867 --> 00:25:49,333 The struggle Against communism 486 00:25:49,333 --> 00:25:52,500 Trumped any other Consideration. 487 00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:54,300 And I think there was An extraordinary amount 488 00:25:54,300 --> 00:25:55,967 Of flexibility 489 00:25:55,967 --> 00:25:59,567 In dealing with people That you disapproved of. 490 00:25:59,567 --> 00:26:02,833 You took their money and You used it for a good cause. 491 00:26:04,767 --> 00:26:07,367 Narrator: in the letters Of blackmail roberto calvi wrote 492 00:26:07,367 --> 00:26:09,300 Just before his death, 493 00:26:09,300 --> 00:26:11,067 They are said to have Threatened to reveal 494 00:26:11,067 --> 00:26:14,333 Banco ambrosiano's many Dirty secrets. 495 00:26:14,333 --> 00:26:17,333 The vatican, the cia, And the mafia 496 00:26:17,333 --> 00:26:21,467 Might all have feared The consequences. 497 00:26:21,467 --> 00:26:26,367 So, if we assume That calvi was murdered, 498 00:26:26,367 --> 00:26:29,300 There was a queue of people, Effectively, 499 00:26:29,300 --> 00:26:32,967 Who had an interest In wanting him silenced. 500 00:26:32,967 --> 00:26:35,500 We have the mafia, We have the church hierarchy, 501 00:26:35,500 --> 00:26:36,933 We have politics. 502 00:26:36,933 --> 00:26:40,067 This whole system -- 503 00:26:40,067 --> 00:26:43,200 The overlapping systems, We can say -- 504 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,300 Are suddenly All pointed at calvi. 505 00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:49,133 It does seem That in the cover-up 506 00:26:49,133 --> 00:26:51,367 And the failure To investigate, 507 00:26:51,367 --> 00:26:56,800 Or the inefficiency Of the investigation 508 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,300 Over the years, 509 00:26:59,300 --> 00:27:05,167 It does look very much As though powerful forces 510 00:27:05,167 --> 00:27:09,067 Didn't want anyone to get To the bottom of this mystery, 511 00:27:09,067 --> 00:27:11,867 Probably because They were implicated 512 00:27:11,867 --> 00:27:16,133 In whatever -- What happened. 513 00:27:16,133 --> 00:27:21,067 Still, to this day, The calvi case remains unsolved. 514 00:27:21,067 --> 00:27:23,900 Perhaps, hidden inside The vatican archive, 515 00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:26,500 There will be vital evidence That reveals the truth 516 00:27:26,500 --> 00:27:29,933 About this and many other Vatican scandals. 517 00:27:29,933 --> 00:27:33,833 The secret archive also contains Fascinating details 518 00:27:33,833 --> 00:27:37,067 On the vatican's More far-out practices. 519 00:27:37,067 --> 00:27:40,600 One such curiosity Is why the vatican operates 520 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,967 A state-of-the-art astronomical Observatory in arizona. 521 00:27:44,967 --> 00:27:48,800 Could it be they are searching The heavens for aliens? 522 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,800 * 523 00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:58,300 * 524 00:27:58,300 --> 00:28:01,400 Narrator: curiously, The vatican has, for centuries, 525 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,933 Operated An astronomical observatory 526 00:28:03,933 --> 00:28:05,967 Studying the heavens. 527 00:28:05,967 --> 00:28:07,867 Detailed observation Of the movement 528 00:28:07,867 --> 00:28:12,067 Of the planets and stars Began back in the 16th century, 529 00:28:12,067 --> 00:28:16,533 When pope gregory xiii had the So-called gregorian tower built 530 00:28:16,533 --> 00:28:20,067 At the vatican in order To more accurately calculate 531 00:28:20,067 --> 00:28:23,900 The annual church calendar, Such as the date of easter. 532 00:28:25,967 --> 00:28:28,367 People question why The vatican has a telescope 533 00:28:28,367 --> 00:28:30,867 And a big observatory, and Has done for hundreds of years. 534 00:28:30,867 --> 00:28:33,067 The answer is actually Very simple. 535 00:28:33,067 --> 00:28:37,267 For centuries, the church was Based on a liturgical calendar 536 00:28:37,267 --> 00:28:38,833 That the vatican Had to calculate, 537 00:28:38,833 --> 00:28:41,100 And that calendar Is based on the movement 538 00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:43,533 Of the heavenly bodies, And astronomy. 539 00:28:43,533 --> 00:28:47,533 Narrator: Since the 1990s, however, The main vatican observatory 540 00:28:47,533 --> 00:28:49,733 Has been located not in italy, 541 00:28:49,733 --> 00:28:53,600 But, surprisingly, In the united states. 542 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,067 Bellinger: the vatican Long maintained an observatory 543 00:28:56,067 --> 00:28:57,700 And telescope in rome. 544 00:28:57,700 --> 00:29:01,133 Now, as rome grew And light pollution increased, 545 00:29:01,133 --> 00:29:03,367 This was no longer A viable place 546 00:29:03,367 --> 00:29:06,600 To do the best observations Of the night sky. 547 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,967 And so the vatican acquired A location in arizona 548 00:29:10,967 --> 00:29:14,200 And has established An absolutely state-of-the-art 549 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,667 Observatory out there. 550 00:29:17,667 --> 00:29:19,500 Narrator: today, Some people question 551 00:29:19,500 --> 00:29:21,900 Why the vatican built Such a highly advanced, 552 00:29:21,900 --> 00:29:26,233 Ultra-modern telescope On arizona's mount graham. 553 00:29:26,233 --> 00:29:27,933 The religious calendar 554 00:29:27,933 --> 00:29:31,333 Was accurately calculated Centuries ago. 555 00:29:31,333 --> 00:29:36,167 Could it be that the vatican Observatory has a secret agenda? 556 00:29:36,167 --> 00:29:38,400 It's absolutely incredible That the vatican has got 557 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:43,167 Its own telescope, huge telescope, in arizona. 558 00:29:43,167 --> 00:29:45,233 Are they looking For extraterrestrials? 559 00:29:45,233 --> 00:29:47,633 Do they believe There are extraterrestrials? 560 00:29:47,633 --> 00:29:52,367 The catholic church can't Believe that there are aliens, 561 00:29:52,367 --> 00:29:54,700 Because they've told us For 2,000 years 562 00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:56,633 That we are the only planet In the universe 563 00:29:56,633 --> 00:29:58,933 That has life on it. 564 00:29:58,933 --> 00:30:01,800 But there are legends That they do believe it. 565 00:30:03,767 --> 00:30:06,033 Narrator: according to Conspiracy theorists, 566 00:30:06,033 --> 00:30:08,500 The vatican observatory On mount graham 567 00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:10,567 Isn't really interested In using the telescope 568 00:30:10,567 --> 00:30:12,567 For astronomical reasons. 569 00:30:12,567 --> 00:30:16,400 They're actually looking For incoming ufos. 570 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:22,267 Josh peck is an author who makes This highly controversial claim. 571 00:30:22,267 --> 00:30:24,467 You know, I believe That mount graham is 572 00:30:24,467 --> 00:30:27,467 One of the biggest secrets Of the vatican today. 573 00:30:27,467 --> 00:30:29,000 And the reason That I think that is, 574 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,533 I don't think it's all about Just the science. 575 00:30:31,533 --> 00:30:33,133 I believe that The vatican believes 576 00:30:33,133 --> 00:30:34,467 That when jesus returns, 577 00:30:34,467 --> 00:30:36,633 He will return As an alien being. 578 00:30:36,633 --> 00:30:39,300 And I believe that's really part Of what's going on 579 00:30:39,300 --> 00:30:42,300 With the telescope On mount graham is all about. 580 00:30:42,300 --> 00:30:43,800 If they believe That jesus christ 581 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,467 Is gonna return as an alien, 582 00:30:45,467 --> 00:30:47,133 Wouldn't they want to use This telescope 583 00:30:47,133 --> 00:30:50,433 To try to make contact With him first? 584 00:30:50,433 --> 00:30:52,167 Narrator: It's an astonishing claim 585 00:30:52,167 --> 00:30:55,467 That the vatican believes An alien in a ufo 586 00:30:55,467 --> 00:30:58,900 Might herald The second coming of christ. 587 00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:01,967 The jesuit priests who operate The vatican observatory, 588 00:31:01,967 --> 00:31:05,667 However, say that although They are intellectually curious 589 00:31:05,667 --> 00:31:08,500 About the nature Of god's universe, 590 00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:10,067 The telescope is, in reality, 591 00:31:10,067 --> 00:31:15,467 Used for more mainstream Astronomical research. 592 00:31:15,467 --> 00:31:18,367 Staff astronomer Father jean-baptiste kikwaya 593 00:31:18,367 --> 00:31:21,067 Explains. 594 00:31:21,067 --> 00:31:23,233 Kikwaya: This is our telescope. 595 00:31:23,233 --> 00:31:25,733 Many people, you know, think That religion and science, 596 00:31:25,733 --> 00:31:29,300 They don't go together, But that is totally wrong. 597 00:31:29,300 --> 00:31:32,300 They go together From the beginning. 598 00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:37,300 The church Is not against science. 599 00:31:37,300 --> 00:31:40,867 Myself, I work on meteors -- 600 00:31:40,867 --> 00:31:43,200 You know, shooting stars -- 601 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,400 And asteroid and comet. 602 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,067 Narrator: intriguingly, one of Father kikwaya's main interests 603 00:31:50,067 --> 00:31:53,233 Is trying to spot Potentially dangerous asteroids 604 00:31:53,233 --> 00:31:55,567 On a collision course With earth. 605 00:31:55,567 --> 00:31:59,167 If he happens to see one, Its predicted trajectory 606 00:31:59,167 --> 00:32:02,267 Can be analyzed in The telescope control room. 607 00:32:04,367 --> 00:32:06,600 It's very important. I don't know, I mean, 608 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:13,733 If you heard about an asteroid Destroying, you know, dinosaurs. 609 00:32:13,733 --> 00:32:18,700 So it's good to know When actually -- 610 00:32:18,700 --> 00:32:22,300 You know, when asteroid will hit The earth and where, 611 00:32:22,300 --> 00:32:26,067 And what kind of damage, Actually, is it going to create. 612 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,633 Narrator: Although it may seem surprising 613 00:32:29,633 --> 00:32:31,133 That vatican astronomers 614 00:32:31,133 --> 00:32:33,767 Are carrying out This kind of research, 615 00:32:33,767 --> 00:32:36,400 The vatican observatory Is well-regarded 616 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,100 In a wide range Of fields of study, 617 00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:42,067 As longtime University of arizona astronomer 618 00:32:42,067 --> 00:32:44,333 Chris impey explains. 619 00:32:44,333 --> 00:32:46,400 Impey: The vatican observatory, 620 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,367 It's made significant Contributions 621 00:32:49,367 --> 00:32:52,333 To the study Of the center of galaxies. 622 00:32:52,333 --> 00:32:55,867 Some galaxies are active and Have something bizarre going on 623 00:32:55,867 --> 00:32:58,867 Because of a black hole. Some are not so active. 624 00:32:58,867 --> 00:33:01,933 And yet ostensibly, the galaxies Are built the same way. 625 00:33:01,933 --> 00:33:03,667 So what's special about that? 626 00:33:03,667 --> 00:33:07,100 So they've done some surveys That relate to that. 627 00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:10,433 So they've contributed to, You know, a range of subjects. 628 00:33:10,433 --> 00:33:14,067 Nothing at the, you know, Foundational level 629 00:33:14,067 --> 00:33:15,667 That might merit nobel prize 630 00:33:15,667 --> 00:33:17,967 Or that kind of level Of discovery, 631 00:33:17,967 --> 00:33:21,567 But a major contribution To astronomy knowledge 632 00:33:21,567 --> 00:33:24,067 Over the years. 633 00:33:24,067 --> 00:33:25,933 Narrator: despite The vatican observatory's 634 00:33:25,933 --> 00:33:28,167 Scientific achievements, However, 635 00:33:28,167 --> 00:33:31,133 Some people believe that Their official research projects 636 00:33:31,133 --> 00:33:33,433 Are just a cover story. 637 00:33:33,433 --> 00:33:36,900 Officially, the telescope Is there to monitor 638 00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:38,500 Near-earth objects 639 00:33:38,500 --> 00:33:42,500 And monitor the development Of galaxies, 640 00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:44,867 The movement of stars, And so on -- in fact, 641 00:33:44,867 --> 00:33:48,833 All the things observatories Usually are there for. 642 00:33:48,833 --> 00:33:52,333 But conspiracy theorists believe That the catholic church 643 00:33:52,333 --> 00:33:56,567 Is really using it To look out for e.T.'s, 644 00:33:56,567 --> 00:33:58,667 Look out for aliens. 645 00:33:58,667 --> 00:34:02,100 It's natural to wonder If vatican astronomers 646 00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:05,667 Are particularly interested In the idea of life out there 647 00:34:05,667 --> 00:34:09,900 Because it would reflect somehow Onto their religious tradition 648 00:34:09,900 --> 00:34:11,833 Or their belief system. 649 00:34:11,833 --> 00:34:13,933 And indeed, They're as interested in it 650 00:34:13,933 --> 00:34:15,933 As any other astronomers That I meet. 651 00:34:15,933 --> 00:34:17,367 But as far as I know, 652 00:34:17,367 --> 00:34:19,700 They're not doing any particular Projects in that regard. 653 00:34:19,700 --> 00:34:20,833 Also, their telescope 654 00:34:20,833 --> 00:34:22,833 Isn't really well-suited As a telescope 655 00:34:22,833 --> 00:34:26,533 To doing the kind of exoplanet Hunting or life detection 656 00:34:26,533 --> 00:34:30,100 That astronomers Are doing elsewhere. 657 00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:32,167 Narrator: nonetheless, Some people claim 658 00:34:32,167 --> 00:34:35,800 That the vatican observatory's Research in detecting asteroids 659 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,067 That might be on a collision Course with earth 660 00:34:38,067 --> 00:34:39,967 Has actually been designed 661 00:34:39,967 --> 00:34:44,933 To hide very different, Secret investigations. 662 00:34:44,933 --> 00:34:47,767 Now, let's be honest. It's absolutely bizarre 663 00:34:47,767 --> 00:34:49,800 That the vatican has A telescope at all, 664 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,067 Let alone one that's pointed In deep space 665 00:34:53,067 --> 00:34:55,967 For purposes of identifying 666 00:34:55,967 --> 00:34:58,633 Incoming life-threatening Objects. 667 00:34:58,633 --> 00:35:00,400 Why is that their job? 668 00:35:02,433 --> 00:35:04,167 Narrator: so, Is the vatican observatory 669 00:35:04,167 --> 00:35:07,300 Really studying What they say they are? 670 00:35:07,300 --> 00:35:09,733 Or could they secretly Be investigating life 671 00:35:09,733 --> 00:35:11,867 Beyond our planet? 672 00:35:13,567 --> 00:35:20,500 * 673 00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:22,800 Narrator: according to Conspiracy theorists, 674 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,767 The vatican believes That christ's second coming 675 00:35:25,767 --> 00:35:28,967 Might be as an alien In a spaceship. 676 00:35:28,967 --> 00:35:30,800 Allegedly, The official research 677 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,067 Of the vatican's observatory In arizona is a cover story. 678 00:35:35,067 --> 00:35:38,100 Instead of detecting faraway Galaxies and asteroids 679 00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:40,200 On a collision course With earth, 680 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,867 It's claimed that, in fact, 681 00:35:41,867 --> 00:35:46,300 The vatican observatory Is searching for incoming ufos. 682 00:35:46,300 --> 00:35:49,667 Others strongly deny this. 683 00:35:49,667 --> 00:35:51,333 The fact there's a telescope Doesn't mean 684 00:35:51,333 --> 00:35:52,667 That they're searching For aliens 685 00:35:52,667 --> 00:35:54,867 Or they're trying to convert Little green people. 686 00:35:54,867 --> 00:35:56,267 It just means That they're furthering 687 00:35:56,267 --> 00:35:58,600 Their scientific work. 688 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,733 Narrator: astronomer Father kikwaya, 689 00:36:00,733 --> 00:36:03,667 Who leads the vatican's Official research project 690 00:36:03,667 --> 00:36:07,100 Detecting incoming asteroids, Dismisses the idea 691 00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:10,233 That he's secretly looking For alien spaceships, 692 00:36:10,233 --> 00:36:13,233 And says there's no photographic Or other evidence 693 00:36:13,233 --> 00:36:16,067 That they exist. 694 00:36:16,067 --> 00:36:18,733 [ laughs ] You know, If someone say, "I saw one," 695 00:36:18,733 --> 00:36:22,533 And I say, "Okay, so did you not Take a picture of it? 696 00:36:22,533 --> 00:36:24,467 And then if you show me The picture 697 00:36:24,467 --> 00:36:26,833 And I'm convinced That, I mean, that is one, 698 00:36:26,833 --> 00:36:28,233 And then I will believe." 699 00:36:28,233 --> 00:36:30,967 So until now, I mean, People just talk about it, 700 00:36:30,967 --> 00:36:35,333 But nobody has taken A real picture of an ufo. 701 00:36:35,333 --> 00:36:37,833 Yeah, yeah. 702 00:36:37,833 --> 00:36:41,067 Narrator: nevertheless, Father kikwaya does accept 703 00:36:41,067 --> 00:36:43,133 That there is a good chance Of life existing 704 00:36:43,133 --> 00:36:46,300 On other planets In the universe. 705 00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:50,067 There is truly a possibility 706 00:36:50,067 --> 00:36:54,400 Of life beyond, you know, What we know. 707 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:59,767 We don't have Any scientific proof yet. 708 00:36:59,767 --> 00:37:02,500 But I mean, with what we know, 709 00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:08,800 With, you know, The size of the universe, 710 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:14,067 With the number of planets We have now in the universe, 711 00:37:14,067 --> 00:37:16,067 We say, "Okay, There is a possibility 712 00:37:16,067 --> 00:37:19,267 Of life, you know, Beyond the earth." 713 00:37:19,267 --> 00:37:21,467 That is the position Of the church, as well. 714 00:37:21,467 --> 00:37:25,233 There is a possibility Of life beyond. 715 00:37:25,233 --> 00:37:30,567 Longtime university of arizona Astronomer chris impey agrees. 716 00:37:30,567 --> 00:37:34,267 I've heard what a series Of three or four directors 717 00:37:34,267 --> 00:37:38,100 Of the vatican observatory have Said and thought about that. 718 00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:42,433 And, you know, they're probably In the same camp and situation 719 00:37:42,433 --> 00:37:44,933 As the average astronomer Who's aware of the subject. 720 00:37:44,933 --> 00:37:46,800 They think It's entirely plausible 721 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,200 That there's life In the universe. 722 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,767 They think it's even plausible That some of it could be 723 00:37:51,767 --> 00:37:55,833 Intelligent, rival us Or exceed us in intelligence. 724 00:37:55,833 --> 00:37:58,367 Bellinger: in fact, The vatican recently hosted 725 00:37:58,367 --> 00:38:02,067 A global conference That brought together scholars 726 00:38:02,067 --> 00:38:04,233 From all different Scientific disciplines 727 00:38:04,233 --> 00:38:07,500 To examine the question Of whether there might be life 728 00:38:07,500 --> 00:38:09,700 Beyond our solar system. 729 00:38:09,700 --> 00:38:12,333 And I think it's tempting To imagine 730 00:38:12,333 --> 00:38:16,567 That as being anathema To a religious philosophy, 731 00:38:16,567 --> 00:38:18,467 But in fact, it's not. 732 00:38:18,467 --> 00:38:21,267 You know, it's all about How humanity fits 733 00:38:21,267 --> 00:38:25,433 Into the global plan Of the world and the universe. 734 00:38:25,433 --> 00:38:27,133 And that is all part Of god's plan, 735 00:38:27,133 --> 00:38:31,100 As far as the church Is concerned. 736 00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:35,600 Kikwaya: if, you know, tomorrow, We come really to realize 737 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,233 That there is life elsewhere, 738 00:38:38,233 --> 00:38:41,233 That is not gonna be, For us, a surprise, 739 00:38:41,233 --> 00:38:43,567 But maybe a confirmation 740 00:38:43,567 --> 00:38:49,867 That god truly is more than What we think of him. 741 00:38:49,867 --> 00:38:53,867 Impey: we can project That there are 10 or 15 billion 742 00:38:53,867 --> 00:38:56,800 Habitable worlds, Roughly earthlike, 743 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,467 In the milky way galaxy. 744 00:38:59,467 --> 00:39:02,933 So that's that many places Where there could be life. 745 00:39:02,933 --> 00:39:06,133 And also, there's been time Before the earth formed, 746 00:39:06,133 --> 00:39:07,733 Billions of years Before the earth formed, 747 00:39:07,733 --> 00:39:10,067 For those planets To have gotten started with life 748 00:39:10,067 --> 00:39:11,600 And the life to have evolved. 749 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,933 So it's not ridiculous To hold a view 750 00:39:13,933 --> 00:39:16,867 That there's intelligent Technological life out there. 751 00:39:16,867 --> 00:39:19,433 It's just that astronomers think We haven't encountered it yet, 752 00:39:19,433 --> 00:39:21,433 And it hasn't encountered us. 753 00:39:21,433 --> 00:39:22,833 Narrator: interestingly, 754 00:39:22,833 --> 00:39:27,067 If mainstream astronomers Do happen to encounter aliens, 755 00:39:27,067 --> 00:39:30,100 There is a plan about What action they should take. 756 00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:32,300 Astronomers actually have A protocol of what you do 757 00:39:32,300 --> 00:39:35,267 If intelligent life is found -- Who should be told first, 758 00:39:35,267 --> 00:39:39,467 Do you try and communicate back If you've received a message? 759 00:39:39,467 --> 00:39:43,767 If you find an artifact that you Believe to be of alien artifact, 760 00:39:43,767 --> 00:39:45,367 What do you do with it? 761 00:39:45,367 --> 00:39:48,333 So astronomers have actually Had to think about these things. 762 00:39:48,333 --> 00:39:51,067 So, as for how The vatican observatory 763 00:39:51,067 --> 00:39:54,533 Or the official Vatican church infrastructure 764 00:39:54,533 --> 00:39:57,133 Would react to the Discovery of life elsewhere, 765 00:39:57,133 --> 00:40:00,100 Intelligent life, I don't know If they have a protocol. 766 00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:03,400 This came up at a conference. The director of the observatory 767 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,367 Was asked pretty much These questions. 768 00:40:05,367 --> 00:40:10,067 And he said, "No, we don't have A particular protocol for that." 769 00:40:13,333 --> 00:40:17,333 Narrator: hidden deep inside The vatican secret archives, 770 00:40:17,333 --> 00:40:20,000 Could there in fact Be a secret protocol 771 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,400 Describing how The catholic church will react 772 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,300 If intelligent aliens Are discovered? 773 00:40:25,300 --> 00:40:28,667 And incredibly, perhaps, Also describing what actions 774 00:40:28,667 --> 00:40:31,233 The pope will take If one of the aliens 775 00:40:31,233 --> 00:40:34,300 Is thought to be The second coming of jesus? 776 00:40:36,433 --> 00:40:39,000 Gough: I do believe the world's A far stranger place 777 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,833 Than we give it credit for. 778 00:40:40,833 --> 00:40:42,500 And the catholic church -- 779 00:40:42,500 --> 00:40:44,533 Where there's smoke, There's fire. 780 00:40:44,533 --> 00:40:47,233 The vatican secret archives Contain documents 781 00:40:47,233 --> 00:40:48,933 That they don't want The world to know, 782 00:40:48,933 --> 00:40:51,533 Documents that Have been suppressed 783 00:40:51,533 --> 00:40:54,967 Because they would change The way we think about theology. 784 00:40:54,967 --> 00:40:58,633 That's why they call it The secret archives. 785 00:40:58,633 --> 00:41:00,867 Narrator: apart from documents That might reveal 786 00:41:00,867 --> 00:41:03,800 The vatican's alleged Interest in aliens, 787 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,633 The secret archive may well Contain sensational answers 788 00:41:07,633 --> 00:41:10,700 To many of the most enduring Vatican controversies 789 00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:13,867 And scandals. 790 00:41:13,867 --> 00:41:16,633 Gough: I would like to see A whistleblower come forward 791 00:41:16,633 --> 00:41:18,833 And tell the truth About the vatican 792 00:41:18,833 --> 00:41:21,467 And the secrets They've been withholding. 793 00:41:21,467 --> 00:41:24,667 Then we could properly Rewrite history. 794 00:41:26,633 --> 00:41:29,700 Narrator: Will claims that the vatican Collaborated with the nazis 795 00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:33,067 During world war ii Be proven or disproven 796 00:41:33,067 --> 00:41:34,833 As a result of the early opening 797 00:41:34,833 --> 00:41:37,733 Of the vatican's Wartime archive? 798 00:41:37,733 --> 00:41:42,300 Historians now have Their work cut out for them. 799 00:41:42,300 --> 00:41:46,133 And what secrets about vatican Corruption and mafia murders 800 00:41:46,133 --> 00:41:48,467 Lie waiting to be discovered 801 00:41:48,467 --> 00:41:51,633 When pope john paul I's Secret archive 802 00:41:51,633 --> 00:41:55,167 Is finally opened in 2048? 803 00:41:55,167 --> 00:41:59,400 Researchers can only hope that His archive is released early 804 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,167 And the truth can be told. 66111

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