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Here's how the fairy tale goes.
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Fall in love,
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get married,
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be faithful,
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grow old together and die.
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I do...
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..not.
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SHE BLOWS A RASPBERRY
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I've lived most of my life thinking
marriage was my destiny.
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But look around - divorce
everywhere,
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and a whole lot of cheating
going on.
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He's definitely not faithful.
Look at that guy.
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The dream of settling down with one
true love ain't cutting it any more.
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And it's not a fairy tale.
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If anything, it's a scary movie.
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With, you know, nice parts in
the middle. Yeah.
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Is there a better way to find
love and build relationships?
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She's my wife,
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and then he's our boyfriend.
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This one is a poly-amorous
group people hanging out together,
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casually.
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Of course!
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Love and marriage.
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They go together like fish
and chips, right?
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Yeah, today not so much.
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UK marriages are at their lowest
rate since 1862.
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Four in ten US adults are single.
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So I've found myself
in a relationship quandary.
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I don't think it's the fairy
tale we've been fed,
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I just think that's what
every fairy...
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it's what every fell...
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Every time I'm in love I envision
marrying the person that I'm with.
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And I do envision being with them
for the rest of my life.
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But, once you go through heartbreak
and then heartbreak
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and then heartbreak,
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you just go "Wait, this is not
worth it.
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"This is silly." Cos if it breaks
one more time
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what if it doesn't get back
together?
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I mean, I'm still mending from not
one relationship but three -
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four...three.
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Yeah.
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Being in all these monogamous
relationships,
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I thought I knew what that - what I
was looking for,
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but maybe now I don't really
know what that is.
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I want to discover what else
there is,
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because usually I've just
kind of gone for monogamy,
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but maybe that isn't
the right answer.
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My love life needs a makeover.
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What kind of relationship
will work for me?
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But first, I want to understand that
primal emotion
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that keeps us bonded and committed
to one another.
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What is love?
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So, we are in Santa Barbara,
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I'm about to meet a scientist who is
going to show me
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what love looks like in my brain.
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Or even if I have one at all.
So...
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The woman with this terrifying
power?
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Bianca Acevedo.
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She could tell you if you're in love
just by studying your brain.
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Hi, I'm Cara.
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Nice to meet you. Come on in.
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We're going to ask you to
change into scrubs. OK.
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To make sure you don't have any
metal in your body,
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and then we're going to get you
started.
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Oh, my God, OK, cool.
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Now, the idea is that the MRI
will scan my brain,
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while I look at photos of different
people from across my life.
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Oh, my gosh, it's chilly. Yes.
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Are these going to keep me warm
though? Not really.
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We're going to give you a blanket.
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Pictures of family,
close friends and old relationships.
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I'll be talking to you.
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I'll say "Hey, this next scan is
going to be five minutes long."
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Hold still as much as you can.
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Just thinking about somebody we love
fires up areas across the brain.
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And there's one in particular that's
linked to romantic love.
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We typically see that people
that are in romantic love
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show activation in the ventral
tegmental area of the brain.
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It's a region that's rich
in dopamine,
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the key neurotransmitter that
motivates us to go
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and get what we want.
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OK, Cara, are you ready?
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Yeah.
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Counting it down, three -
three, two, one.
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The first photo Bianca selects is an
old friend I'm extremely close to.
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And who also happens to be
incredibly attractive.
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Right, Cara, how are you doing?
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LIGHT SNORING
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Cara?
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Cara, how you doing? Good.
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You fell asleep in there.
I know, I'm sorry.
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It's OK.
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Hey, it was comfy, warm and dark,
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and looking at my friend just
made me feel secure.
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Quick blast of caffeine...
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Goodnight.
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..and it's back into the love
machine.
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It's just really cosy here.
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Here we go.
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After a few more photos of other
friends and family,
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Bianca shows me someone
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I've had a rather complicated
relationship with.
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We're looking at what Cara's
brain is doing
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when she's looking at images
of her ex-partner.
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I anticipate seeing some
amygdala activation,
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because it seems like she's still
very emotionally charged.
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The amygdala processes strong
feelings, including fear,
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anger and pleasure.
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We're going to come in and get
you now.
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The study's over.
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A quick breather,
and it's results time.
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What did you find out?
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First up, my hot friend.
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What does my brain have to say?
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When you look at the picture
of the person that you admire
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your brain activity...
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Wow. Not that much there.
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Doc, you see a lack of love,
I see a sneaky snooze.
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Now let's see how my brain reacts to
a much more complex relationship.
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So, are you ready to see your brain
response to your ex? Sure.
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So this is... Jesus Christ!
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..the response to your ex.
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So you're showing activity in both
the right and the left
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ventral tegmental area, that we
see in people that are in love.
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Wait, what?
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So, we see this pattern of brain
activation
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in people that are in love.
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No way!
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Yeah.
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Riiight.
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Cool. Good to know.
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Oh, God.
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Were you expecting to see that?
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Definitely not, but I...
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..I understand there's a strong
emotional response.
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But it definitely wasn't love, it
was sadness and anger.
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But is that what...what love is
meant to be like? No.
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Well, we do see a lot of activation
in the areas
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related to emotional memory.
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Thanks, brain, for making me aware
of these things.
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Love stimulates our brain's reward
system,
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releasing chemicals like dopamine,
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which motivates us and makes us feel
good.
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And the hormone oxytocin, which
helps us bond with the one.
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Both make us want to be with our
partner.
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Love is basically a drug...
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..and a pretty powerful one at that.
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The ventral tegmental area lights up
in response to reward.
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So, in response to the face image of
your ex,
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you still find it rewarding.
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Mm-hm.
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Life is complicated. Yes, indeed.
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One of the things that has been most
surprising
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is just how tenacious love is.
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Like, it's...it's a really, really
strong drive.
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Even if couples are not always doing
great,
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there's still a strong bonding
connection there.
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They...they will still show
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this intense reward-related activity
in their brain.
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Bianca's uncomfortably revealing
work shows that love is real
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and we're not always conscious of
our feelings.
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When our reward system becomes
associated
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with one person in particular,
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it can lead to monogamy.
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As I wander through Santa Barbara,
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trying to get my head round Bianca's
revelations,
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I stumble across someone overwhelmed
by the love drug.
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Is it your wedding day, today?
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Oh, my gosh, congratulations.
Thank you.
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How many times have you been in love
before?
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This is probably the only time.
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Do you believe that monogamy is what
comes naturally to humans?
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I don't think that it's something
that comes naturally... Yeah.
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..but I do think it's something that
we've come to expect.
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If, for some crazy reason, one of
you ended up wanting someone else,
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or, like, wanting to explore maybe
something,
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would you expect to be honest about,
talk about it?
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I think if I felt like there was
some sort of like premeditations,
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then I think it would over
immediately.
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Yeah, of course, agreed.
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But I feel like if it was just
something that happened unexpectedly
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and if my heart felt like I wanted
to keep trying,
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I'd probably would do that, yeah.
Thank you.
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You seem, by the way, so calm for
somebody who's about to get married.
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Thank you. And you really look
absolutely so stunning
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and I hope you have a most
incredible day. Thank you.
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You know, I was definitely sold the
wedding fantasy.
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I mean, yeah, it was all the idea of
like marrying someone
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that will look after you...
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..and maybe have like a nice title.
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And then, um...
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But in my mind, I was like,
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"I just don't want to rely on anyone
ever.
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"I want to make all my own money and
I want to...
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"..rely on myself and myself only.
See ya!"
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But that's me and that, you know,
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probably leans into more of my
little like masculine, boy side.
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The western relationship norm of one
man, one woman has been with us for
centuries.
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And let's face it,
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who doesn't love a bit of
parent-pleasing, white flounce
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and bouquet chucking?
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Reality check, though, monogamous,
straight marriage is tanking.
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UK nuptials have fallen 50% from
1972.
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So, is there a way to save what we
love about marriage by changing it?
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In Japan, one woman is keeping the
fairy-tale trappings and tradition,
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while re-writing the wedding script
on her own terms.
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I've been invited to a wedding that
I don't know much about,
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but I've heard it's not your average
wedding.
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Midori's 36 and a stunning bride.
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So, what about the groom?
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But when the groom is wheeled in,
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this wedding suddenly takes an
unexpected turn.
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I'm actually a huge fan of The Sims.
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It was something that I used to play
a lot, when I was younger.
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How much pressure is there to get
married?
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OK, at first, I was bamboozled.
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But getting to know Midori, I wonder
if this is a reaction
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to the weight of her family's
expectations
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and how they felt about it all.
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Midori's one of thousands of
Japanese people in relationships
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with fictional characters known as
fictosexuals.
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By marrying Morgyn,
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she's adapted a conventional
monogamous wedding ceremony
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to suit her own unconventional needs
and desires.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you,
thank you.
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Yaaay!
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The love that was exuding,
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you could feel it in every ounce of
what she was saying.
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I felt so overly emotional and happy
for her.
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And I think that's the most
incredible thing in the world.
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I really couldn't differentiate
between a "normal wedding".
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We're not all marrying game
characters,
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but around the world, our
dissatisfaction
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with conventional flesh-and-blood
marriage
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is playing out in many different
ways.
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Near the top of the list -
incredibly common -
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cheating.
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47% of Italian men admit to affairs.
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Surprisingly, 20% of us Brits enjoy
a bit on the side.
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While in the US,
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20% of men and 13% of women fess up
to marital infidelity.
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Mm-hm.
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It's rough.
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Yeah, being cheated on is not ideal.
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But, you know, I've also cheated.
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I usually prefer to be broken up
with than to break-up with someone.
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Cos I find the guilt of breaking up
with someone
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far harder than being broken up
with.
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So, I'd rather just stay in the
relationship,
250
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until it eats me alive.
251
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It's a very weird thing to do.
252
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I don't know why I stay.
253
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The problem is as well, though, when
you don't have much self-worth,
254
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if someone cheats on you, you just
kind of take them back
255
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and let it go, which is the
stupidest thing.
256
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Cos once you lose trust with
someone, it will never come back.
257
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So, why continue being in a
relationship,
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where you don't trust someone?
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Beats me, but I've done it.
260
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Cheating's so widespread,
261
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it seems we humans find strict
monogamy difficult.
262
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And in one country, changing
attitudes towards infidelity
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appear to have created a business
opportunity.
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Mexico City - devoutly Catholic.
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Nuns galore!
266
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Yet, if you're looking for a place
for some very glamorous two-timing,
267
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here, you're spoiled for choice.
268
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Aidee has seen more than 100 love
hotels flourish
269
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in Mexico City alone in the last ten
years.
270
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And they cover the country.
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"What's a love hotel?", I hear you
ask.
272
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Well, this ought to give you a clue.
273
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GLASSES CLINK
274
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But in that case,
275
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why are all these Mexican love
hotels only appearing now?
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Well, until recently, just having
an affair in Mexico was illegal.
277
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Then, ten years ago, the law
changed.
278
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If you were unfaithful, you could go
to jail.
279
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And now, it's changing.
280
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It's not something that is
punishable by law.
281
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With cheating legal, love hotels
went from secret and seedy
282
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to boutique and mainstream.
283
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Five out of every ten women
284
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and six out of every ten men admit
to having been unfaithful.
285
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Whereas ten or 15 years ago,
286
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it was basically 60% of men and 30%
of women.
287
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That's a near doubling of infidelity
rates amongst the ladies
288
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in a decade or so.
289
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Maybe now, they are admitting to
being unfaithful more
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than they did before.
291
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Or maybe they are more...
292
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..open to having these affairs.
293
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Changing the law lifted the
penalties for infidelity
294
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for both men and women.
295
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Yeah, go equality!
296
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Though, is equal opportunity as
adultery actually a win?
297
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Let's just say yes.
298
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Now, the gap between men and women
299
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who admit to having been unfaithful
at least once in their lives
300
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has completely closed.
301
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But why do we cheat?
302
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One theory is that having multiple
partners
303
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helps increase genetic diversity,
304
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which is good for the species.
305
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So, maybe it's down to our biology.
306
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After all, we're animals.
307
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And zookeeper Alexi Grousis reckons
we've got a lot to learn
308
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from the birds and the bees.
309
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And don't forget the horny beasts!
310
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So, you want to check out these
animals? I'll lead the way.
311
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Oh, my God, I'm so excited.
312
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When we look at the animal kingdom,
313
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especially, the animals that are
most closely related to us,
314
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we see that monogamy is not as
common as we'd like to think it is.
315
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Look at him.
316
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I make owl sounds.
317
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SHE MIMICS AN OWL
318
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Oh, my God, owls are so cool.
319
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Monogamy is most commonly seen in
birds.
320
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Less so in the primates.
321
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When you look at the primates, they
get a little more promiscuous.
322
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I'm more feather than fur, I think.
323
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So far at least.
324
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And as for the reptiles...
325
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THEY LAUGH
326
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Please turn around. He's definitely
not faithful. Look at that guy.
327
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And, guys, no prizes for guessing
which bit of your anatomy
328
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shows just where us humans lie on
the fidelity spectrum.
329
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What is this?
330
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,880
Yeah, I've put together a nice
little demonstration for you.
331
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Cara, today, I've got the relative
testes size of different animals.
332
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So... Can we call them bollocks?
333
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I don't cos I'm American. Cos I'm
English.
334
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All right, their bollocks. Or testes
or whatever...
335
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,280
Wait, what? You can't say bollocks?
Is that a bad word?
336
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But you can say testes?
337
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Balls?
338
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Testicles.
339
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Testicles. That's bollocks!
340
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Oops!
341
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When we look at this one right here,
342
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this is roughly the size of an owl
monkey's testicles,
343
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which is a very monogamous animal.
344
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The testicle size is almost directly
related
345
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to the amount of sperm being
produced.
346
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But is that meaning that the bigger
balls you have,
347
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the more likely you are to be less
monogamous?
348
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No. Potentially.
349
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The more sperm competition, the
bigger the testicles have to be.
350
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And the more sperm that are
produced,
351
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the better chance you have of making
the mark if you will.
352
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This one right here,
353
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that would be the rough size of a
chimpanzee testicle.
354
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No! Yeah.
355
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So, big balls equals promiscuity
356
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because they're producing a lot of
sperm
357
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and a lot of males are competing
with each other.
358
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I have a lot of questions, now.
Yeah, well...
359
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..before you ask those, let me show
you this one.
360
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And humans are neither strictly
monogamous
361
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nor highly promiscuous. Mm-hm.
362
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We sit kind of right in the middle.
In the middle.
363
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That's never something I've heard
about balls before,
364
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,160
but that's an interesting... Yeah,
no kidding, right?
365
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Right, let's get this straight.
366
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Nature has given us - well, I mean,
males,
367
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medium-sized bollocks relative to
our body.
368
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Sorry, testicles.
369
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It sounds like us humans are
naturally designed
370
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to be neither totally monogamous nor
totally polygamous.
371
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So, let's say monogamish.
372
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Biology implies we're flexible...
373
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..but society wants stable.
374
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Can a long-term romantic
relationship have both?
375
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Here's an idea, how about throupling
up?
376
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My name is Johnisha. My name is
Jeron.
377
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And my name is Destiny.
378
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She's my wife, and then, he's our
boyfriend.
379
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,280
Oh, you did the same thing. I did.
380
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,560
I personally like the uncomfort of
like when we walk into a room
381
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and nobody knows what our dynamic
is.
382
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Let people fill in the details how
they will.
383
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,800
This tantalising trio started as a
twosome,
384
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until there was a very good reason
to grow.
385
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We got married last year
386
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and we had actually started wanting
to have kids around that time.
387
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We either wanted a donor or we
wanted somebody
388
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that was going to also be like a
father in their life.
389
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,520
So, me and Jeron actually dated
seven years ago
390
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and we stayed friends.
391
00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:37,440
And eventually...
392
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..like being in a throuple sort of
kind of fell into our laps.
393
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,120
So, we started with the initial
like,
394
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"OK, we're going to go into this as
co-parenting and being friends."
395
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And then, the relationship sort of
just blossomed.
396
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:50,640
It's a lot of love.
397
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,680
As far as it being all three people
on the same page,
398
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,080
this is my first time. Yeah. Yeah.
399
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,080
Yeah, same. For all three of us.
For all three, mm-hm.
400
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,960
We're always getting like, "Don't
you guys get jealous?"
401
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,720
"Oh, I could never share my man."
402
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,320
But he's like, "Oh, you got two
girlfriends? High five, dude!"
403
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,920
THEY LAUGH
404
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,960
Usually, it always goes to sex.
405
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,000
How do you guys have sex? Like, I
don't know, Google, like...
406
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,360
THEY LAUGH
407
00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:21,560
Especially in the beginning, we had
a lot of just honest conversation.
408
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,880
If you can't communicate with just
one partner,
409
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:30,120
two partners is going to be harder,
so communication is key.
410
00:24:30,120 --> 00:24:31,280
Mm.
411
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,880
Good thing they've got communication
sorted
412
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,920
because baby Isaiah's arrival means
domestic arrangements
413
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,520
need a lot more thought and
organisation.
414
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,600
There was a lot of questions about
415
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,160
how logistically everything would
work
416
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,360
with there being three sets of
grandparents
417
00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:50,480
and three sets of aunts and uncles.
418
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,960
Everybody just wanted to make sure
419
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,960
that they were going to have their
time.
420
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,120
Relationships come in all different
ways.
421
00:24:57,120 --> 00:24:59,760
It's not something I'd do...
422
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,480
..but, you know, I figure if you
don't...
423
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,720
..like it, don't do it.
424
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,360
But it seems that it's working with
them.
425
00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:12,880
I like the way they...they get along
together and, you know, co-parent.
426
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,600
I give them credit.
427
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,720
Kids, commitment, fidelity and
stability?
428
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,040
I'm realising that this throuple
aren't so very different
429
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,560
from your average monogamous couple.
430
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,880
Society says you should be with one
person but, you know,
431
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,000
we are human and we have these
emotions.
432
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,400
So, I don't think that it should
just be limited to just one person.
433
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,320
And it doesn't have to be for
everyone.
434
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,960
But, you know, it works for us and
we're happy with it.
435
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,080
It's just more love.
436
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,600
Our village to raise our baby is
already a step ahead of most.
437
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,320
These suburban throuple trailblazers
438
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,920
show that relationship dynamics are
all different.
439
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,040
And they've created an alternative,
440
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,200
yet also very traditional family
that works for them.
441
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,680
They're not alone.
442
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:08,120
43% of American millennials say
"no, thanks" to monogamy.
443
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:10,800
Maybe now's the time for me
444
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,320
to seriously consider my
relationship future.
445
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,920
Because I have been single for the
longest time I ever have been,
446
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,560
I would like someone to tell me,
"This is what you're meant to have."
447
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,000
If it is meant to be like,
448
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,400
"You should be married with a
girlfriend and a boyfriend",
449
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,120
I'd be like, "Dope. Cool, now I know
what I'm aiming for.
450
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:30,760
""et me fill those spots.
451
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,480
I like someone telling me what I
need to go for
452
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,640
instead of kind of this just like
endless how many people
453
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,280
or one person or what gender?
454
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,960
Ah, it's a lot! It's confusing.
455
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,080
It's way more complicated because
how do I know when that...
456
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,280
How do I know when I've found my
family?
457
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,040
I feel like it is about chosen
family in a way.
458
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,200
Luckily, I know just the
evolutionary anthropologist
459
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,760
to cut through my confusion.
460
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,000
Hi!
461
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,840
So, yeah, I want to ask you what
is...
462
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,280
Biologically, socially, what am I
meant to do?
463
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,440
Am I meant to be monogamous? What
can I do? Tell me, doctor.
464
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,080
So, the inputs into how we end up
465
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,920
in terms of our relationship
structures are two, OK?
466
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,480
You have the biological input, which
is your instincts.
467
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,560
But then, we have the really quite
powerful cultural influence
468
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,920
on how you behave in relationships.
Yeah.
469
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,360
Maybe the religion you follow,
470
00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:26,360
what your examples were as you were
brought up.
471
00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:28,360
Add these together and you end up
472
00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:31,800
with a lot of different relationship
styles to choose from.
473
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,760
I mean, check all these out.
474
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:38,000
Monogamy is where you have two
people, who are exclusive,
475
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,800
and therefore, they don't have sex
476
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,520
or experience love outside that
relationship.
477
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,320
So, consensual non-monogamy is
478
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,760
having a non-monogamous
relationship.
479
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,840
So, being in a relationship with
more than one person by consent.
480
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,240
So, not an affair.
481
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,920
Woohoo! Correct, obviously.
482
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,840
So, polyamory - somebody's a
polyamorist,
483
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,120
if they are emotionally involved,
intimate,
484
00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:04,040
they love more than one person.
485
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,720
So, that defines it as against
things like open relationships.
486
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,720
What makes polyamory different is
it's about that emotional intimacy
487
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,080
is there amongst a group of people,
rather than just a sexual intimacy.
488
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,920
You're good at this game.
It's not a game.
489
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,560
Polly-gyny. So, polygyny is when
you... Polygyny!
490
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,720
Is a marital structure. It's where
you have one man and many wives.
491
00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:30,000
So, this is kind of like a single
person
492
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,960
having loving relationships with
other people
493
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,600
but not committing to them in terms
of living with them,
494
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,760
having those markers of a life
together.
495
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,600
So, that's what I'm doing. Cool.
496
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,960
Polyandry!
497
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,000
So, polyandry is a marriage
structure,
498
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,360
where you have one woman and many
husbands. Very rare.
499
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,880
I'm not sure I'm ready to choose
one, yet.
500
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,160
Society sold me the dream of
monogamy
501
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,880
but multi-partner marriage dates way
back to ancient times
502
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:01,360
and it's legal or tolerated in over
50 countries.
503
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,880
The problem is, in most cases, it's
usually only men
504
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,960
that are allowed to take many wives
and not the other way around.
505
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,000
But one woman is on a mission to
shake all that up.
506
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,440
I currently have three
intimate partners.
507
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,720
Nyamekela, he is a
heterosexual man.
508
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,720
He is the father of my children,
he's my fiance.
509
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,560
Also my nesting partner, which
basically means we do house
510
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,720
things together, we have that
everyday kind living relationship.
511
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,520
Yeah, I'm very, very blessed.
512
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,520
And my second partner is Kerline.
513
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,120
Kerline!
514
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,960
Our dynamic is more of a
BDSM dynamic.
515
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,560
We met through a mutual
friend and...
516
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,200
I'm struggling to focus because
Muvumbi's doing this thing.
517
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,120
She has, like, this twinkle
thing that happens.
518
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,960
Why are you fucking twinkling at me?
519
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,240
Cos I love you.
THEY LAUGH
520
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,240
My third partner is MJ.
521
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,880
MJ is my light love affair.
522
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,600
We love listening to music together
and holding hands.
523
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,840
Muvumbi's polyamorous -
524
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,160
a guilt free way to have multiple
emotional and sexual partners.
525
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,880
And it's practical too.
526
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,520
She's got all bases covered -
527
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:29,960
domesticity,
528
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,160
intimacy,
529
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,280
and BDSM.
530
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,320
So what more could she want?
531
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,480
Well, to get married.
532
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,920
If I can marry a man and a woman,
that's always been my dream.
533
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,280
There's just one problem.
534
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,080
At the moment, that's
illegal in South Africa.
535
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,280
Men can have multiple wives
in polygynous marriages.
536
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,960
At one time, former South African
president Jacob Zuma had four wives.
537
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,760
But women cannot marry multiple
husbands, polyandry,
538
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,120
let alone take a wife and a husband.
539
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:11,160
I'm an activist, and I think that
I'm very vocal about polyamory
540
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,240
because it is so close to my value,
which is freedom.
541
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:20,520
I am a member of Poly ZA, which is
a polyamorous group in South Africa.
542
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,280
Muvumbi is campaigning to get
the law changed.
543
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:26,680
And guess what -
544
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,320
the government's now mulling over
a new bill
545
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,600
that would legalise polyandry.
546
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:39,240
The signing of the bill
to make it legal
547
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,760
for women to marry more than one
lover opens that up for me.
548
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,600
I think it's my right to have
access to all pleasure.
549
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,080
Men have been living that,
and we all want equal rights.
550
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,840
Hi. Hey, babe.
551
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,040
Hey, boyfriend.
552
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,440
HE LAUGHS
553
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,280
I think I'm the resident boyfriend.
554
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:00,920
THEY LAUGH
555
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,040
That's my... That's the best title
I can think of, you know.
556
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,120
The fact that this is possible,
557
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,800
that I can make a salad with my
two lovers
558
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,320
makes me so happy.
559
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,160
So, are there any limits to
Muvumbi's polyamorous plans?
560
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,680
I wouldn't say the more the better
561
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,200
because I think you can get,
like, saturated.
562
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,000
So everybody has their limit, yeah,
563
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,960
and I think right now mine is three.
564
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,520
SHE LAUGHS
565
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,640
My saturation limit?
566
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,040
Not sure yet.
567
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,160
Muvumbi's fighting for marriage
on her terms,
568
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,440
but am I suited to
multiple partners?
569
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,360
In my fantasy, now what I'm
thinking about,
570
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,960
yeah, I would love to, like, live
on a farm with my, like, five wives
571
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,240
and one man.
572
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,480
Can I say that?
573
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,760
I don't want five wives,
that's exhausting.
574
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,400
My head is spinning
with possibilities.
575
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,880
But I've heard there's a
ground-breaking scientific test
576
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,520
that may help me decide my perfect
relationship structure.
577
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,160
Really? I don't think it's very
attractive that I'm spitting.
578
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,240
And so what are they going to
test with it?
579
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,520
So this is, like, a genome
typing test that...
580
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,160
Mm, hold please.
581
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,680
If I'm genetically destined to maybe
be in long term relationships
582
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,040
or if I'm more likely to be single.
That's amazing.
583
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,680
All from a bit of spit.
All from a bit of spit.
584
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,080
Mm.
585
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,600
My good friend, Dr Anna, is going to
give me the results.
586
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,720
What are we testing for? What is...
What's going on?
587
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,960
OK, yeah, so we asked
you for some of your spit
588
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,680
and we extracted the DNA from that.
589
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,400
And what we are looking at is
three particular genes
590
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,920
that are associated with how you
behave when you're in love.
591
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,240
So that's the oxytocin
receptor gene,
592
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,040
the beta-endorphin gene,
and the serotonin receptor gene.
593
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,160
Anna's looking for gene variations
that may be shaping our love lives.
594
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,120
So you can basically
tell my relationship history,
595
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,200
maybe the general way I am in love?
596
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,080
We can certainly find indications
of what you might be like.
597
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,640
So, no gene is deterministic,
but it's a good pointer.
598
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,320
So the first gene we're looking at
is the oxytocin receptor gene,
599
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,200
the nesting gene. It has an
influence on the likelihood
600
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,760
that you'll be motivated to form
long term relationships.
601
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,600
We also looked at the Mu opioid
receptor gene,
602
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,360
which is linked to beta-endorphin.
603
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,120
It's addictive, it's like heroin.
604
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,720
And it's what underpins long term
human relationships.
605
00:34:26,720 --> 00:34:29,760
So when we say "addicted to love",
you are actually addicted
606
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:30,960
to the other person.
607
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,800
And lastly, we have the serotonin
receptor gene.
608
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,880
It seems to have some influence on
the likelihood
609
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,360
that you will be single.
610
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,120
So, people with very low circulating
serotonin tend to be very obsessive.
611
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,800
So what we're looking at there is
whether or not people
612
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,360
who have the gene that makes them
more likely to be single
613
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,680
actually have higher levels of
circulating serotonin.
614
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,960
So they just don't get obsessed
with people enough
615
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,720
to change their lives to want to be
with that person.
616
00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:57,200
How did you find this? Like how do
we correlate that
617
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,520
between the actual genes and, like,
what it shows
618
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,640
with our relationship
history, how does that...?
619
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,640
OK, so what we did was
we took a lot of spit,
620
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,320
from about 4,000 people,
621
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,360
and we took their
relationship histories,
622
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,200
and we took lots of psychological
measures about their attachment,
623
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,360
and we looked as whether there was
a relationship
624
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,920
between certain genes and some of
those traits.
625
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,720
And what we found was there is.
626
00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:22,640
There certainly is a genetic
influence on the way we love,
627
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,720
on the way we feel, and in terms of
how we behave
628
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:26,160
when we're in a relationship.
629
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,160
For example, the basis of a
really good, close relationship,
630
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,440
for example, is empathy.
631
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,560
And certainly the oxytocin genes
that we're looking at for you
632
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,400
have a major influence
on your empathy.
633
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,800
One of the ways the attachment
hormone oxytocin
634
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,040
increases empathy and bonding is by
focusing our attention
635
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,200
on emotion in faces around us.
636
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,280
You're so good at your job, man,
it's amazing.
637
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,120
OK, I'm so... I just want to know...
I can't... What else do I do?
638
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,400
So, Cara, your test results show
639
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,560
that you do not have the
nesting gene -
640
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,520
so, you are not overly motivated to
be in a long term pair bond -
641
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,760
that you sit midway on the
empathy spectrum,
642
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,640
and that you do not have the gene
643
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,720
that's going to increase the
likelihood that you are single.
644
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,800
Again, confusing, but I like it.
645
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,560
None of these things are making me
so sure about who I am.
646
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:15,920
THEY LAUGH
647
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,440
This is because love is complicated.
648
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,400
OK, let me take this all in.
649
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,480
According to my genes, I'm not
super bothered
650
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,480
about long term relationships, but
I'm also not likely to be single.
651
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,920
That's cool and confusing.
652
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,240
Thanks, Mum and Dad.
653
00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:36,680
And I'm fairly but
not overly empathetic.
654
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,440
I'm medium...empathy.
655
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,040
That means people feel double
as much as me to other people.
656
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,240
That's, like, a lot.
657
00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:46,960
I know genes are just one factor
influencing our love lives.
658
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,680
How we were parented and culture
matter, too.
659
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,080
I definitely do want to change.
660
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,440
I think I have a very unhealthy
relationship with attachment,
661
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,480
with love, with... Still with
self-love and patterns.
662
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,160
And it's just the longer
I stay single,
663
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,400
I realise it takes a long
time to change.
664
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,840
Perhaps the solution to my quandary
lies in polyamory.
665
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,880
So far I've only dipped my toe
666
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,600
in the waters of
alternative relationships.
667
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,640
But I want to explore more deeply
668
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,120
and find out if there's a kind
that's right for me.
669
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,360
Funny story, here I am
frantically searching
670
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,200
for a group of polyamorists.
671
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,560
No luck so far.
672
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,800
But I have found a fabulous
Saint-Emilion 1964.
673
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:33,720
Oh.
674
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:35,640
Here we go. Hurrah!
675
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,960
CHATTERING
676
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,600
So cool.
677
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,000
Hi, guys.
678
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,120
Hey!
679
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,600
Hi.
680
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,320
Welcome to a polyamorous
cocktail party,
681
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,840
run by the fabulously named
Sex Positive LA.
682
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,440
It's a social event for people in a
wonderful variety
683
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,080
of relationship structures.
684
00:37:57,720 --> 00:38:00,600
So, I'm really excited to
meet all you guys.
685
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,280
I've always been curious about
different ways of relationships.
686
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,160
I think a lot of people aren't even
aware of the options.
687
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,280
This is an interesting time
we're in right now,
688
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,000
it's kind of like a new
sexual revolution
689
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,840
of, like, people really figuring out
what's going to make them happy
690
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,040
and seeing that there's different
ways to do things,
691
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,200
because a lot of people aren't happy
with that model.
692
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,160
And you don't have to sacrifice your
happiness for someone else. Right.
693
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,760
Yeah, again, and it doesn't
have to...
694
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,680
Looks like I've found an explorer
695
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,080
who's been on this relationship
journey for longer than me.
696
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,760
This one is a polyamorous
group of people
697
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,800
hanging out together casually,
698
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,800
and, like, nerd out about what it
means to be poly and...
699
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,280
I love that, nerding out about poly,
that's so interesting.
700
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,320
I mean, I don't know what the
rules are, are there rules?
701
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,280
There's no-one way to do
any of this.
702
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,680
Just like there's not one way
to do monogamy. Right.
703
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,360
So, there's different
types of polyamory.
704
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,040
For example, solo-poly -
705
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,520
one person dating multiple people,
but kind of no ties to each person.
706
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,360
There's the kitchen table polyamory
707
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,800
where there's maybe, you know,
multiple people,
708
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,520
with all of the partners, and get
along harmoniously.
709
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,680
Cool.
CARA CHUCKLES
710
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,480
There's a V that's literally the...
Like, the letter V.
711
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,040
So there's one person
dating two people.
712
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,600
There's endless different
configurations.
713
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,800
To be polyamorous, do you have to
relinquish jealousy completely?
714
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,520
In a harmonious poly relationship,
715
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,280
you would be figuring out how to
thwart that
716
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,320
before it gets to that point of,
like, anger or resentment
717
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,960
and those kinds of things. I
love the constant communication.
718
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,320
Because of the monogamous
relationships I've been in,
719
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,800
I was very unable to express when I
was hurt,
720
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,320
when I wasn't treated well.
721
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,920
I'm now desperate to learn about the
highs and lows of polyamory
722
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,960
from people who live them.
723
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,880
What drew you to polyamory?
What does it mean to you?
724
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,320
What has it brought to your life?
725
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,800
For me, it's just a way of being,
it's my identity.
726
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,480
So, it's not taking anything
away from any other person
727
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,960
and it's just adding more.
728
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,160
Really gives you the opportunity to
just figure out
729
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,800
what works for you and your partner
or partners.
730
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,520
Just having honesty.
731
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,840
Which might change
and develop and... Right.
732
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,840
Which doesn't need to be
the same for everyone.
733
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,760
Unfortunately it ruins almost every
love story in most movies.
734
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,080
THEY LAUGH
735
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,480
From our perspective when somebody's
like, "Oh, I love them and them,"
736
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,040
we're always like, "Both!"
737
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,800
Right. Love them all.
738
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,840
Yes, be transparent.
739
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,680
Movie over. That's so interesting.
740
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,160
THEY LAUGH
741
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,200
My discovery of polyamory sort
of coincided with meeting my wife.
742
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,040
I had just gotten out of
a relationship
743
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,680
where we tried to be just open.
744
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,920
Open relationships, where you have
one romantic partner
745
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,560
but sex with other people,
have not worked for me.
746
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,840
But polyamory makes more sense.
747
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,280
Most people when they're asking
for the open relationship,
748
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,200
they're asking to be open
sexually. Yes.
749
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,160
And then to not have any
feelings for anybody.
750
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,760
Which is... Yes.
Which you can't really control.
751
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,160
In a lot of previous
monogamous relationships,
752
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,240
I've felt leashed,
I've felt collared.
753
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:02,200
And that makes me
want to break out more.
754
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,240
Yes, you felt trapped, so you want
to be like,
755
00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:06,840
"OK, I'm not a... I'm not a
caged animal."
756
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,000
In this...this short moment,
I can see how individual, how smart,
757
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,440
how emotionally developed,
all these things.
758
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,640
I can...I can always, like, restrain
myself sexually,
759
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,440
but emotionally I have connections
with people, and that was never OK.
760
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,680
Thank you, thank you, thank you,
thank you, thank you.
761
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,200
Each of you dropped something.
762
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,600
I was like, "Boom, boom, boom..."
I told you. "..boom, boom, boom."
763
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,120
I cannot even explain how much
I learnt
764
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,040
in such a short amount of time.
765
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,000
I was always intrigued by polyamory,
the idea.
766
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,720
I think it gets a bad rep.
767
00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:43,840
I think people talk about it
who don't understand it
768
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,240
in so many different ways.
769
00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:46,880
And I don't... I still don't know...
770
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,880
Again, solo, polyamory, whatever I'm
experiencing right now
771
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,760
definitely leads more towards...
772
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,600
something that isn't conventional,
for sure.
773
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,080
I just still don't know what it is.
774
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,680
But I'm so much more excited
to con...
775
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,880
continue exploring without feeling
the unsureness or guilt
776
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,360
or aloneness that I guess
I was before.
777
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,000
Now I feel there are thrilling new
relationship possibilities
778
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,240
ahead of me.
779
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,840
What I have learnt in this whole
experience is the dynamics
780
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,680
and the beauty of so many
different relationships.
781
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,480
No-one can tell you how to live your
relationship or what the rules are.
782
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,520
I think there are no rules.
783
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,920
The way that we're moving into the
future is so much more open
784
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:39,360
and able to let people be who
they want and love who they want
785
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:40,800
and how they want.
786
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,800
I still don't know if I can be
in love with multiple people,
787
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,600
but I love multiple people,
788
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,560
and I feel very, very lucky to be
able to have that support
789
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,240
and bond with so many people.
790
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:53,280
But I think in terms of love,
the most important relationship
791
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,320
and the most important love you can
have is for yourself.
792
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,280
And there is no point in being in
a relationship
793
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,080
until you can fully love yourself.
794
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,760
Cos you can't really truly love
someone until you do.
795
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,880
So, while I spend my days figuring
all this shit out,
796
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,800
there's only one special someone
for me.
797
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,600
He's - yes, it is a he -
798
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,160
loyal, faithful, a perfect match.
799
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,400
And, yes, just a little naughty.
800
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:25,800
Ah.
801
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,200
This is perfect puppy love.
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