All language subtitles for Planet Sex with Cara Delevingne S01E03

We are ready.

Nat, how do you feel?

I would like to know, what is it
that brings you all to orgasm?

Yes. The more fingers, the better.
I'll probably ask you for more.

So, here I am in Barcelona
on my first ever porn shoot.

I'm sure all of you are
very skilled, but, yes...

THEY LAUGH

I really like to touch myself.
So if it's OK for everyone,

I would like to more, like,
watch you and have sex with myself.

Mm-hm.
It's OK? Perfect.

Good luck to everyone,
and let's have a great party!

Whoo!

The porn industry is estimated
to be worth up to a whopping

a hundred billion dollars a year,
with more web traffic than

Netflix, Amazon
and Twitter combined.

A US study found 70% of men
and 33% of women watched

this stuff in the last year,
including me.

But I don't always feel good
about myself afterwards.

I think some of it's gross.

Like, this is really bad.

And some of it is downright nasty.

Oh! Oh! This is horrible.

And I worry about the impact it's
having on the people who use it.

Whoa! Like, this image is crazy.

So is there an alternative?

They're hugging. It's great.

Can I find porn I feel good about?

Yeah, go! Come! Whoo!

Porn.

All right, come on,
let's talk about porn.

DOORBELL RINGS

So, what exactly is pornography?

Well, it's anything with sexual
content designed to turn you on.

And today there is a lot of it.

SHE SIGHS

OK...

Every day, there are
hundreds of millions of visits

to porn sites across the world.

With most people watching it
on their mobile devices,

porn is now more accessible
than ever,

which means you can watch it
anywhere, any time, all the time.

Guys...do you want some pizza?

But this frothy fantasy
of cheerleaders and pool boys

is a long way from the dark reality
of how porn makes me feel.

I started watching porn pretty young

and couldn't really come without it
for a long period of time.

And it wasn't until...
I don't know, a couple of years ago

when I just started
trying to masturbate without it.

And it was hard.
And without a sex toy, too.

Watching porn didn't actually
affect my actual sex life.

It more just affected
the sex life I had with myself.

I never watch porn
with my partners.

Porn was something that was
my own sexual secret or my own

sexual exploration. And I think,
for me, it made me have

a lot less respect or a way worse
sexual relationship with myself.

Porn is quite intense, and I think
it can be quite scary

when it gives young people
a very skewed way of

how sex should be
and what intimacy should be.

The porn industry has always
jumped on new technology,

from home videos in the '80s,
internet in the '90s

to free tube sites in the noughties.

According to Pornhub,
the most popular searches in 2021

were hentai, Japanese,
lesbian and MILF.

But things can get pretty extreme.

In 2020, around 40% of porn
on Xvideos and Pornhub

included acts
of physical aggression.

I've seen a lot of porn
that taps into our worst,

most basic instincts. And banning it
won't make it go away.

It's really gross, cos especially
even after you watch it

then you're like,
"Oh, I feel disgusting."

So am I always going to
find porn a problem?

Or is it possible to make porn
that doesn't feel quite so...icky?

Barcelona, porn capital of Europe.

I've heard that amongst
the many porn producers here,

there's one fighting to change
the industry for the better.

And action!

Erika Lust creates films that
are radically different to the free,

easily accessible stuff
you find on most porn websites.

She takes
a totally ethical approach,

but I wonder -
what does that really mean?

There's a whole
indie movement, really...

..smaller production companies
of directors, producers,

performers who are trying to make
a different kind of porn,

a porn that is respecting people.

Plan B...
So we're all set, right?

So in terms of the porn you make,
why did you end up doing that?

And what was it about mainstream
porn that is a problem? Mm-hm.

Well, for me it's the whole
kind of system, I think.

I think that most of the people
making it are the same kind of men,

the kind of middle-aged,
white hetero guy,

and it's his version of porn
that we see.

And I'm so tired of all this kind of
videos talking about banging,

smashing, er, nailing...
Pounding. Pounding. Screwing.

Punish fucking. When you watch
women having sex with these men

or whatever, you can tell
they're not turned on. It's crazy.

With mainstream porn today, they are
not interested in human sexuality.

It's all about
traffic, nasty, dirty,

ugly as possible to earn money.

So I wanted to show you a few clips

to look a little about, you know,
what's wrong with porn.

Here's a few examples
of an online site.

So here, what do we see?

We see two big men and we see a very
young girl. She looks so young.

If we read the tag line, it says,

"Tiny teen destroyed
by two giant black dudes."

And this is an example of
so many things that's wrong,

the racialisation, also,
of the characters.

And she obviously looks
much less than 18 years old.

The problem here is
the marketing, really,

how they exploit
the idea of a teen girl.

Like, this is really bad. This is
really bad, that it's accepted.

So gross. Here's another
really good example.

This is about "lesbian beauty
tries her first cock and loves it".

And what is this about?
Well, this is about the idea

that no woman could really be
a lesbian because most women,

if they just try cock...
They'll absolutely love it.

..that's what they want.
Do you think she's really a lesbian?

I don't think so!

Yeah, but so many of my straight
girlfriends watch lesbian porn

and they're like, but that's
their favourite one to watch

because it's safer
than the other ones.

Well, I'm like, "It's not really
lesbian sex, either,"

it's not really anything. And again,
"teen slut used by the whole dorm".

Look at the language. This is...
There's no end to it.

And then I have an example that
you are not going to like at all.

Deep fake. They put your face
on another person's body. Oh!

Let's see if they...
Oh! This is horrible.

Have you seen this?
I haven't seen that.

That is honestly
very shocking to see.

One of the reasons
why I'm doing it is

because I want to change
porn culture. I also seen how this

independent movement around porn
has grown since I started.

I never even considered or thought
that there was female directors

in porn. Yeah.
And you know what?

My audience, around 60%
of the audience are men.

And I really believe
that if we want to change porn,

we can't continue
just accepting what's out there.

What I'm trying to do in my films
is to bring more women into adult

film-making, because that's
the only way we're going to be

able to see the perspective shift.

What she showed me
was, yeah, really horrifying.

I didn't really understand the
extent of what we were talking about

in terms of what is there
and available to people for free,

which makes me believe
in what she does even more so.

Erika's got me so fired up about
making better porn that I'm going to

work with her to turn my wildest
fantasies into her new film -

porn I'm hoping that I can
finally feel good about.

I was completely desensitised
by the porn I'd watched.

In my mind, the dangerous part, it's
a lot of female objectification,

and I think that's when it got
quite dangerous for me.

But that's what excited me.

Porn kind of completely
desensitised me to sexual things.

I definitely wouldn't have done
a lot of the things if I hadn't have

watched porn. And I definitely
regretted it afterwards.

I speak to a lot of women
and they have the same feeling,

and it's horrible. There's
so much shame involved in that.

And you can't ever unsee
any of that stuff.

There's a lot of weird shit
in the world!

# There's always someone
somewhere out there

# Trying to put dirt on
See? I'm just like human life

# I've got them things
that I need to work on... #

And lots of that extreme stuff
is found here - Japan.

Look, I love this country
so, so much.

But when it comes to
erotic depictions of women,

oh, dear, it can be
pretty dark and degrading.

Akihabara is the beating heart
of Japan's manga industry,

worth around $5 billion a year.

We're not allowed to film in here,
but I'm going to go take a look,

maybe buy some stuff,
and I'll see you in a minute.

Erotic Japanese art
dates back centuries,

and in the fantasy world of modern
manga, no fetish is off limits.

Today, it's a mixture
of softcore, or ecchi,

and hardcore, hentai.

And I'm sensing
two main themes here...

..wildly oversized breasts and
the sexualisation of schoolgirls,

and both creep me out.

Whoa! Like, this image is crazy!

Oh, my God, I just realised
what's happening.

There's a lot of, like,
cum...everywhere.

Like, why are her nipples
constantly squirting milk?

I hope these people are drinking
water, cos there's so much fluid.

Oh, God.

To me, this looks like it's
by straight men for straight men.

But I've been told
there's an erotic manga subculture

that's way more appealing
to women and less degrading.

Stay with me here. Yes, Boys Love
is gay sex between men

but drawn by and aimed at women.

So I was very fascinated
when I heard

the opposite of what the male
comic books are was two gay men.

How is it so different in Boys Love?

Rather than women
being portrayed as submissive

and depicted as just taking it,
in Boys Love the sex is between

two people who are giving
AND receiving pleasure.

Obviously, BL has
a really positive influence.

Do you hope it reaches
a wider audience?

And what do you think
it teaches people?

I think the thing that surprised me
the most is that I just didn't know

Boys Love existed in terms of
a comic book that's sexual

but about the emotions
and about the feelings,

more like a kind of, like,
romantic erotic novel, let's say.

And I kind of wish there was
a middle ground that straight men

could be into that wasn't so sexual.

We can draw anime.

I think we need more stuff
like Japan's Boy's Love comics...

..sexy stories that reflect the full
range of human sexual experience,

not the same old scenarios I see
time after time in mainstream porn.

Are we on now? We're on,
we're ready to rock and roll.

I've had some hot ideas
for Erika Lust's film that

I want to run past her.

For me, what I want to capture
is raw, true, real-life intimacy.

The things that I find
extremely sexy are the forbidden,

like English repression
in terms of sexuality.

You know, I remember
watching The Crown,

because I thought the royal family
and how repressed and crazy uptight

they were was the hottest thing
in the world.

I'm English - that shit is hot.
ERIKA LAUGHS

Get me going. No, but it's something
that people are looking for more

and more lately, that Bridgerton
porn kind of side. See? See?

So, for me, inspiration
comes from all over the place -

a great story or an interesting
character or a location

that I think, "Wow..." "Wow,
that's hot, to have sex there."

"..sex in a space like that."
Erika you're the best.

I cannot wait to work with you.

It's going to be amazing.
Thank you so much.

I've realised that not all porn
is problematic.

Erika's ethical feminist films
and Japan's Boys Love erotica

give me real hope that there's
positive stuff out there, too.

In fact, sometimes it can
even be kind of meaningful.

Should I have the glasses on or off?
I think off.

Deutschland, meet Gandalf.

Welcome in Berlin.

Danke!

This not-too-shabby Trabi
will be dropping me

at the Schwules, or gay, Museum.

It looks pretty ordinary,

but this place owns the biggest
gay porn stash in all the land,

more than a million items.

Straight in at the deep end
with Peter Rehberg.

Wow, his penis is very large.
Yeah, big dicks.

Yeah. Large penises.
I'm hot again. Whoo!

Jokes aside, Peter knows
that porn matters.

I think that porn is particularly
important for LGBTQI people

because you have very little
representation of queer people

in mainstream media to begin with.

OK, so here we are.

Oh, wow.
This floor is the archive.

Porn is a very central moment
of gay culture,

because through porn you have
access to a gay universe,

the sense of belonging.

So, here, this is
the magazine section.

Playgirl, Playguy. It's like
an encyclopaedia of everything.

And if we go over here...

..many VHS tapes!

Wow! The Pizza Boy 2!

Oh, my God. There's a lot
of dicks and asses,

there's not a lot of women
back here. No, it's not.

The majority is
gay male porn, yes.

Most of this is commercial porn
from the '80s and '90s.

I never thought how affirming
it must be to see your own gay

sexuality reflected back at you.

To Peter, this stuff
is real-life history.

This is a safer-sex porn film
produced in '89

by a German director, Wieland Speck.

So, the idea here is that
everybody pretended there were no

condoms, you know,
so you saw people kissing.

And then it came to the fucking, and
suddenly the guy had a condom on.

So he decided we'd try
to promote the use of condoms.

Should we look at it? Yes.
OK, let's move over.

So, there we go.

Oh, look, it gives you instruction
of how to use a condom.

Gummi! Yeah, Gummi is
a German word for rubber.

So the idea is
to make using a condom sexy.

When you have a representation
of queer people,

maybe they are, like,
allowed to hold hands,

maybe a kiss on the cheek,
but not much more.

So staid sexuality is of course
ubiquitous. Queer sexuality is not.

You as a queer teenager,

no-one is telling you
how queer sex works, right?

Finding out what your fantasies are,

pornography has
an important educational value.

What is happening here? Why is he
so bad at this? I don't know.

Why's there so much air at the end?
I've never seen that done before.

THEY LAUGH
Oh, my God!

That guy's thrilled.
Yeah.

I love Peter. I want to
go to dinner with Peter

and I want to talk about
all the different types of porn.

To be honest, I didn't really
realise how little

I knew about porn
and especially not queer porn.

They are drag queens. The drag
queens are beating up the skinheads.

Yeah, I've never been to Berlin
and done anything like this,

so it's been really amazing.
I love Berlin!

Yay! That's a wrap for Berlin.
Thank you! Love you guys.

Porn is something that, you know,
should be able to be used

but should be made from different
cultures, from different viewpoints.

And instead it's made from this
very dominant, male, objectifying

viewpoint, in my mind,
most of the time.

So I would just like to see
more diversity in the people that

write the porn, the people
that direct the porn,

the people that are in the porn.
I just want it to be real.

Personally, I think mainstream porn
is too far away from most

people's real-world experience
of sex. Yet the stats tell us

we're all consuming
ever-increasing quantities.

And what happens
when we just can't turn it off?

I think that porn can
definitely be an escape.

It's something that you reach for
to help you in what you need,

what you rely on.
Whoa, was I addicted to porn?

I wouldn't watch it
every day, for sure.

I wouldn't need to have
an orgasm every day.

But I needed to watch it
to have one.

So, yeah, I mean, that's in its way
its own little addiction to porn.

OK, so I need to know, is porn
a real addiction in the same

way as, say, gambling or alcoholism?

Not everyone believes so,

but new research is making
scientists think again.

# School's in session
Get your books out

# But even if you don't,
you'll be read... #

The University of California,
San Diego is the site of some

hardcore research
into our darkest desires.

This guy spends a lot of time
thinking about, writing about

and looking at porn. To be fair,
at least he's got an excuse.

In my research, I try to understand
how does the pornography

change brain activity and what
we can do to help people quit.

For him, there's one question
more important than any other -

can you REALLY get addicted to porn?

For majority of people, pornographic
watching is just an entertainment.

They can spend, like, 20 hours
a week watching porn

and never experience any problem.
But the problem appears

when you lose control
over where do you watch porn.

If you start watching in the office,
say, in the public restaurants

because you have there strong
cravings, then this is the problem -

not how much, but how do you watch
and when do you watch?

The average age of patients we've
seen in treatment is around 27.

So, usually, they have been
watching pornography

already for about 15, 17 years,
up to 15 hours a day.

Mateusz looks for signs
of porn addiction in the brain,

which, according to
the Journal of Sex Research,

affects four times more men
than women.

In our studies, we are using FMRI,
which allows us to compare the

brains of people who struggle
with problematic pornography use

with those who use porn
but never experience any problems.

These tests compare the brain
activity of problematic porn

users to that seen
in gambling and alcohol addicts.

Mateusz has studied 450 brains

in his quest to understand
porn's iron grip on our psyche.

He's now finally got enough
to draw a conclusion.

So, we find two main differences

between problematic pornography
users and regular users.

One is related to
their ventral striatum.

This is a reward circuit,
and it becomes super sensitive

for all the triggers
related to pornography watching.

Looking at pornography stimulates
production of the hormone dopamine,

part of the brain's reward system.
But frequent porn binges

make the anticipation part of
the system more sensitive,

meaning cravings for porn
are triggered more intensely.

The second one is related to lower
ability to control your behaviour.

And this is linked
to less grey matter volume

in the prefrontal cortex.
This is this part of the brain.

When we compare
problematic pornography users

with alcohol addicts and gamblers,
the little spots in the prefrontal

cortex are the places where
there is less grey matter volume

responsible for the controlling
of those cravings.

Grey matter covers
the surface of our brains

and is used to process information.

We should have
around 40% grey matter,

but problematic porn users
have less.

And less grey matter is linked to
addiction, although it's not clear

whether lower grey matter is a
result or a cause of this addiction.

It's not just a matter
of your weak will.

This is a real issue. There are
real changes in your brain.

And this is similar to what we've
already seen in other addictions.

Problematic porn use
is now classified

by the World Health Organization
as a clinical condition.

That means people have
better access to

treatment like antidepressants
and psychotherapy.

It's very difficult to quit porn
once you develop this

pattern of problematic use.
But there's hope.

So, what we see among people who are
in treatment is that after a

few months of abstaining from porn,
those changes in the brain reverse.

The hypersensitivity decreases.

This is a real change in the brain,
the restoration of normal function.

So, the good news for
porn and substance addicts

is that brain function
can bounce back.

I'm back in horny-porny,
Spainy Barcelona.

Ah!

I love those ideas.

I'm pitching my ethically sexy ideas
to Erika Lust for her new film,

porn I'm hoping
won't make me feel so eurgh.

Don't worry, monarchy fans,
getting down with the crown is out.

But shaggadelica is in.

Cara actually had a great idea.

Well, the thing about
my fantasies are that

I feel like exploring
time periods and group sex.

I've always been obsessed
with the '60s and '70s,

the way everything looked
but also the sexual revolution,

how everyone was so open and free
and it was

a very exciting time for that
group sex, voyeurism, exhibitionism,

just... Yeah, and
good old-fashioned lovemaking.

So you're thinking like a sex party.
Yes. Like a big orgy.

Yes! An orgy.

And we should find some good music
to set kind of the ambience.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes! Is it all
female or male? I think everyone.

The idea of taking it outside the
conventional standard of what sex

is, right? But is there something
that you find is a turn-on?

I just want it to be good!

I'm excited! OK, OK,
we're making it. Yay! Go! OK, bye.

What kind of porn do you wish
there was more of?

For me, I think that porn is
really lacking in the female voice

or at least different voices,
different points of view.

So much porn, but so much of it
is on the same narrative.

Even the lesbian porn that's made is
clearly directed by a man for men.

It's very confusing.
I would rather watch amateur porn

and real people having sex than
the porn that's made at the moment.

You really want to see real pleasure
and real intimacy,

cos otherwise it's just this kind of
very staged, contrived version

of what love or intimacy
should look like.

Manhattan - I've heard it's home
to another pioneering woman

offering an alternative
to the mainstream porn industry,

swapping the stuff
that really grosses me out...

You had them in your hand!

..to focus on what's really...

Oh, no. Oh, my God!

..well, real.

No!

Real-world sex is way more
innovative,

way more surprising and way more
arousing than porn will ever be.

You roll first. For me, wow,
this is love - real, sexy love.

MakeLoveNotPorn is a paid
subscription video platform

launched by the entrepreneur
Cindy Gallop.

We exist to reflect

the full, glorious spectrum
of human sexuality.

I am obsessed with where you live.
OK, cool. Right.

We have to concentrate.
Down to business, though.

Can you just give me a little taste
of what MakeLoveNotPorn is?

We are the world's first and only
user-generated, human-curated

social sex video sharing platform.

And forget the unreal, filtered
porn-perfect bodies on

so many mainstream sites.

Real-world sex is
enormously reassuring

because we celebrate
real-world everything -

real-world bodies, real-world
penis sizes, real-world vulvas.

Bloody love this woman!

Can you just tell everyone
how you started?

Basically, MakeLoveNotPorn came
about because I date younger men

casually, recreationally for sex.

And I'm deliberately very vocal
about all of that because

I realised I was experiencing
what happens when today's

total freedom of access to hardcore
porn online meets our society's

equally total reluctance to talk
openly and honestly about sex.

When those two things converge,
porn becomes sex education

by default in not a good way.
Urgh, yeah.

So I found myself encountering
a number of sexual behaviours

in bed and went, "Whoa! I know
where that behaviour's coming from."

I thought, gosh, if I'm experiencing
this, other people must be as well.

And I realised I'd uncovered a huge,
global social issue. Incredible.

So, this video is by Goddess Erica,
and it's them tantric kissing.

I'll slide it over.
Fantastic.

GENTLE MUSIC PLAYS

Oh! So sweet.
Mm.

It's also just very soothing
to watch, you know? It's... Mm.

They're just hugging. It's great.

We get really excited

when we can expand the definition
of real-world sex.

Tantric kissing was something

we hadn't had until this video,
which was really exiting.

This isn't making me, like, horny.
Even though it's not NOT making me

horny, it's making me more horny for
intimacy, you know, like craving...

Exactly. ..to be touched
or held or...

THEY LAUGH
..caressed! Yeah. Yeah.

And there's so many of my friends
who are like, yeah,

but there's no dick involved,
there's no real penetration.

It's like... It's just so backwards
about what people believe.

It's pretty obvious to me why this
real-world content is so appealing.

But why, I wonder, would anyone want
to share their sex life online?

Hi, guys! Ahhh! Oh, thank you,
Goddess Erica,

for your amazing video.
How do you guys all know each other?

This is my husband.
We have been married for 13 years,

together for 17, 18.

Um, and Justin is my partner. We
have been together for five years.

Oh, my God. Amazing.

That video made me feel
so much more than I expected.

Like, I actually felt like I wanted
to cry, cos it made me really want

to kiss someone that I felt
intimately for. And I was just like,

"Oh, my God," because the way
you looked at each other, it was

beautiful, beautiful.
That's one of the nice things

with MakeLoveNotPorn, because I
always like to think that, you know,

with mainstream pornography,
that they are creating the fantasy.

But on MakeLoveNotPorn,
you have people taking that fantasy

and turning it into a reality.
Guys, thank you so much.

I really can't thank you enough.

My whole eyes have been opened
so much by Cindy

and seeing your videos, and I'm
like, "My God, I found my new thing.

"This is so great." Thank you!

# What you gonna do, do?

# What you gonna do?
You gonna come closer? #

I think Cindy's platform
is ethical, real and raunchy.

But here's the tricky bit -

you've got to pay for it. And a lot
of people want to get their kicks

for free, which means they're going
to turn to the usual, maybe less

than ethical suspects
for their porn.

So, what to do?

Justine Ang Fonte has a tough job.

She teaches porn literacy
to young people -

in a nutshell, how to think
critically about mainstream porn

that requires one or two clicks
and no subscriptions.

As a health educator working in
a school setting, we're seeing young

people being exposed to pornography
as young as eight years old.

So, Cara, what was
your first experience with porn?

You know, for me, I was like,

"I'm a little kid who already
doesn't feel like they belong."

I didn't know what I was - queer
or genderfluid. Like, I didn't know.

So the whole thing was confusing.
I've been teaching

pornography literacy for nine years.
It's a lot about safety.

It's about looking at what they
might be seeing is not accurate.

This is an entertainment industry
and not something that is

meant to define me
or explain who I am.

I started watching porn
when I was fairly young.

That's how I was introduced to sex.
Yeah. How old?

Around 11, 12.
Yeah.

It definitely made me feel like
I have to be thin and have big boobs

and be shaved, like, everywhere.
I think I must be the youngest here!

My experiences, my first thoughts
really came from playing

video games and being exposed to
images that had sexual intonations.

Then I started
becoming more curious.

I was able to stumble upon
porn websites,

and that was around the age of ten.

I was, like, 14 or so. "I know
I'm gay. OK, lesbian porn."

And that was a mistake.
It didn't have a kind of

sense of pleasure
for anyone who didn't have a dick.

I didn't like lesbian porn.

When I look at a woman like that,
that's not what I was, either.

My wish would be to show women,
really, how sensitive they are.

Like when you touch someone's hand
for a long period of time,

it will turn on their whole body.
Like, just to show that the whole

body of a woman is a sexual organ.

Teaching pornography literacy
in schools,

do you all even think
it should be in schools?

Everyone has sex ed.
No. No.

Every school doesn't do sex ed?
No.

And even schools that ARE
teaching this are not necessarily

bringing up pornography.
They're talking about how to prevent

getting pregnant,
how to not contract an infection.

A lot of my students
are using mainstream pornography

as the main instruction manual.
That is normalising the lack

of consent, the lack of intimacy.
So that's extremely destructive.

I think porn was created
to be a wildly inaccurate

fantasy of our sexuality and
we are meant to consume it as such.

Honestly, I'd like to see
porn literacy on the curriculum

in all schools in the US and the UK.

We need to help
young people understand

that this shit is not real.

I think a lot of teenage boys
think that they'll be a pizza

delivery boy and they'll just
go to a house one day

and then suddenly one girl
will fuck 'em randomly.

That's just not going to happen.

I can't say fuck. Fuck me,
fuck shit, fuck fuck.

Porn has definitely skewed
all of our visions of what sex is,

but especially for poor young boys
that don't know

and their parents won't tell them
and their teachers won't speak

to them about what sex is.
That's all they know.

I think the whole porn industry
needs to just take a step up

and go up a level, because porn
should be educational.

And at the moment it's just
educating people in the exact

opposite way. It's just now becoming
something that is a dangerous thing

that we can't stop kids
from watching.

And it's changing
how the world looks at sex.

# I am not that shape
that you thought I was... #

Ready?

We are on the way back in Barcelona
to watch Erika direct

the porn film
loosely based on my fantasies.

So I'm very excited.

Um, a little bit nervous!

When you were thinking
about kind of the '60s,

was it something like this
you had imagined?

No, the details are wonderful,
from my wildest dreams.

It is really, really pretty.
I love it.

So what are you doing right now?
Well, I'm preparing the next shoot,

where we actually get to know
the performers.

The cool bubble around here, please.

So professional. So cool!

Now, I know that Erika's films
are all about inclusivity,

respect, consensual sex etc,

but this next bit I honestly
could not have imagined...

..a consent chat with the cast
that's on camera,

an actual part of the film.

Done. OK. And action.

This is a talk about
your personal sex boundaries.

Bishop, what do you think?

THEY LAUGH

My back is actually
quite a sensitive space,

but, like, impact play
is actually fine.

I'm pretty into giving,

so, like, blow jobs, rimming,
but I'm also open to receiving.

Other than that, I come easy.
Great, thank you.

Nat, how do you feel?

I would be happy to receive
everything besides, er,

no spit on the face.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Right?

THEY LAUGH

I'm pretty easy with
almost everything, minus anal sex

and playing with my nipples.
They're too sensitive to touch.

And I also would like to know, what
is it that brings you all to orgasm?

Yeah. OK, well, in that case,
play with my balls.

Play with my balls. Lick them,
suck them, play with them.

That will help me. Gotcha.
Orgasm? Balls.

If you feel that something
is not going the way you want,

please communicate it.

Well, good luck to everyone,
and let's have a great party!

Thank you. And cut.

I love this, because I think that
makes the whole statement, I think.

James Bond.
James Bond! My Bond girl.

It looks unbelievable.

I think when I imagined what
a female-led or female director,

generally what that set would
look like, it would kind of be

like this. I hoped it to be.

We need to just see
the nipple tassel. Let's move.

Whoo!

What each person's preferences are,
what their limits are,

what makes them reach an orgasm,
what makes them comfortable,

what makes them uncomfortable.
Just making my dreams come true

in terms of what it should be.
After filming sex personally,

all angles of sex
aren't good, right?

Not all angles are good!
No, they're not.

Not everything is gorgeous.

No, not everything is stunning.
I'm just saying.

Do you give directions
when they're having sex?

No. No, not that much.
I give directions before.

We're going to talk about
the light and the best angles

and the best places and that.
Right, so then they can...

But then when we start,
we let it kind of run.

That's amazing.

You know, just the average
general conversations are about

don't squirt on the sofa or...

OK, let's do it!

MUSIC STARTS
Music.

Dancing.

Action.

Good!

Yes!

Sexy!

Yes! That looks great.

As the director, I'm really trying
always to prioritise women

when I'm searching for people.
I can see the difference.

I can see how they focus
not only on the women as objects

but also on the men.

And it's not only about
the person behind the camera,

it's about the whole crew,

because in the end,
it's in all the small decisions.

So I think it's very important
in the process of constructing

the story you want to tell.

That is a wrap. We have a wrap.

Whoo!

So ends my time
with Lady Lust and team.

Always good to go out with a bang.

Thank you!

It wasn't that strange, was it?
Not at all. Sex is way more scary!

Bishop! Let's do a selfie.

Hello, darling. How are we doing?
All right, love?

There's just such a world
of difference between the films

that Erika produces and
the worst kinds of mainstream porn.

There's boundaries,
respect and care.

No-one's exploited
and everyone's included.

I came in kind of like,
"Why would you pay for porn?"

You pay for an experience,
you pay for the safety of others.

It was just thoroughly enjoyable
because you could see how

they got comfortable
and then you could see people really

enjoying themselves, and that's
what you pay for - for the realness,

but you also know that
they're going to be treated right.

That's the most important thing, cos
you get really attached to them all.

I was like, "Yeah, go! Come! Whoo!"

I don't know. That was amazing.
I'm like, "Ah, you get it."

I want to high-five all of them.
It was wonderful.

I think that the best thing
that people could really do is to

pay for their porn and support
creators and performers.

That's how you make a difference
in the world.

Not all porn is the same.

I was just very happy to see
sex being represented in a way

that I knew it was in real life.

If I had seen that kind of porn when
I was a teenager or kid, I would've

felt more respected and asked for
what I wanted as a woman a lot more.

The first time
I asked a man for what

I actually wanted in bed was
this year, and I'm 29 years old.

Like, that's insane.

Porn is problematic
but it's not the problem.

Instead of blaming porn,
which is what we're doing,

we're not taking porn
and changing the narrative.

There is a healthy way
that porn can be made and watched,

ranging from, like, amateur porn,
Cindy Gallop, MakeLoveNotPorn,

or Erika Lust, an ethical feminist,
but more equality-type porn.

But the problem
is we're just shoved

so much of this tube porn and
the quantity of it down our throats

and you just can't see
anything else.

But there is so much more
out there to explore.

Like sexuality, you should
explore porn just the same.

That's a banger. That's a real...
That's a banger!