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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,512 --> 00:00:15,765 - (room chatter) - (hair clippers buzzing) 2 00:00:16,599 --> 00:00:17,976 (inaudible laugh) 3 00:00:18,018 --> 00:00:20,603 (quiet folk music playing) 4 00:00:24,190 --> 00:00:25,942 Judi Ehrlich: I was 18, 5 00:00:25,984 --> 00:00:28,403 and I had just moved into Synanon. 6 00:00:28,486 --> 00:00:31,322 I was a youngster who was very caught up in her image, 7 00:00:31,406 --> 00:00:34,284 so I hated shaving my head. 8 00:00:36,077 --> 00:00:38,997 My hair was definitely my crowning glory, 9 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:40,498 and at Beverly Hills High, 10 00:00:40,540 --> 00:00:42,167 when you have long, beautiful hair, 11 00:00:42,250 --> 00:00:44,169 you know, that's the thing. 12 00:00:44,252 --> 00:00:45,962 I mean, I didn't have the greatest clothes, 13 00:00:46,004 --> 00:00:47,714 I wasn't from the wealthiest family, 14 00:00:47,797 --> 00:00:49,090 but, damn, I had the hair. 15 00:00:49,174 --> 00:00:51,176 (soft music playing) 16 00:00:51,259 --> 00:00:54,679 I called my parents right after head shaving, 17 00:00:54,721 --> 00:00:56,181 and they said, um, 18 00:00:56,222 --> 00:00:59,184 "So we heard about this thing that happened there. 19 00:00:59,267 --> 00:01:01,144 That, you know, where everybody shaved their head." 20 00:01:01,686 --> 00:01:04,105 And they're like, "But we know you didn't do that." 21 00:01:05,272 --> 00:01:08,193 And I (laughs) was quiet, and they were like, 22 00:01:08,276 --> 00:01:11,029 "Did you do that?" I said, "Yeah." 23 00:01:11,071 --> 00:01:14,324 (jazz music playing) 24 00:01:20,705 --> 00:01:22,624 And that's when they knew. It was like, 25 00:01:22,707 --> 00:01:25,919 as far as they were concerned, that was, I was in a cult. 26 00:01:26,711 --> 00:01:29,881 - (projector flickering) - (unsettling tone playing) 27 00:01:29,923 --> 00:01:32,634 - (muffled shriek) - (tone fades out) 28 00:01:34,678 --> 00:01:38,515 (gentle splashing) 29 00:01:38,556 --> 00:01:41,267 (seagulls cawing) 30 00:01:41,351 --> 00:01:44,521 ("Psychotic Reaction" by Count Five playing) 31 00:01:44,562 --> 00:01:46,523 ♪♪ 32 00:01:57,658 --> 00:02:01,079 (quiet chatter) 33 00:02:01,162 --> 00:02:05,959 ♪♪ 34 00:02:06,042 --> 00:02:09,253 My mother learned about the Synanon Game 35 00:02:09,336 --> 00:02:11,881 and started investigating it, I think, as a way 36 00:02:11,923 --> 00:02:13,466 to fix their marriage, 37 00:02:13,550 --> 00:02:16,261 and, initially, they loved it. 38 00:02:18,096 --> 00:02:20,807 Basically, I was an anti-social girl 39 00:02:20,890 --> 00:02:21,933 and a very shy girl. 40 00:02:21,975 --> 00:02:23,101 (room chatter) 41 00:02:23,143 --> 00:02:25,395 I loved Synanon because it enabled me 42 00:02:25,437 --> 00:02:28,148 to really connect with other people. 43 00:02:28,231 --> 00:02:30,191 And the next thing I knew, I was sorta hooked on it. 44 00:02:30,275 --> 00:02:33,278 (song continues) 45 00:02:33,319 --> 00:02:35,238 When I first joined up, 46 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,781 Synanon was a few different things. 47 00:02:37,073 --> 00:02:40,410 It started to help people with drugs and alcohol problems. 48 00:02:40,452 --> 00:02:43,038 And then other people, 49 00:02:43,121 --> 00:02:45,373 non-addicts, started getting involved. 50 00:02:45,457 --> 00:02:47,584 They were called Lifestylers, 51 00:02:47,625 --> 00:02:49,793 and it sort of turned into a social movement. 52 00:02:49,878 --> 00:02:52,714 (song continues) 53 00:02:52,797 --> 00:02:54,507 (bus horn honking) 54 00:02:54,591 --> 00:02:57,469 (crowd cheering) 55 00:02:57,552 --> 00:03:00,764 Chuck Dederich: This is definitely the end 56 00:03:00,805 --> 00:03:03,183 of one era and the beginning of another. 57 00:03:03,266 --> 00:03:04,809 (applause) 58 00:03:04,851 --> 00:03:08,146 In the past, Synanon attracted the attention 59 00:03:08,228 --> 00:03:11,066 of a bunch of rather confused people. 60 00:03:12,067 --> 00:03:15,737 And got them all somehow to gather under one banner. 61 00:03:15,820 --> 00:03:17,822 (muffled chatter) 62 00:03:17,864 --> 00:03:20,075 Some of the people who were part of this 63 00:03:20,158 --> 00:03:22,077 are no longer with us. 64 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:23,495 (gentle splashing) 65 00:03:23,536 --> 00:03:26,164 But we will continue to expand, 66 00:03:26,247 --> 00:03:27,582 do our work better, 67 00:03:27,665 --> 00:03:30,585 have better tools, buildings, and everything else 68 00:03:30,669 --> 00:03:33,505 to give as many people as possible 69 00:03:33,588 --> 00:03:37,676 an opportunity to change for the better. 70 00:03:39,844 --> 00:03:42,930 ♪♪ 71 00:03:44,599 --> 00:03:48,019 Bob Navarro: For me, Synanon was the place. 72 00:03:48,061 --> 00:03:50,188 I felt like, at the age of 25, 73 00:03:50,230 --> 00:03:53,233 I was already a failure at the business of life. 74 00:03:53,316 --> 00:03:56,027 I was just really so... 75 00:03:56,069 --> 00:03:57,821 shriveled up inside. 76 00:03:57,862 --> 00:04:01,241 Synanon, when I got there, 77 00:04:01,324 --> 00:04:02,534 it was just filled with people. 78 00:04:02,617 --> 00:04:04,577 I mean, I'd never been around 79 00:04:04,661 --> 00:04:06,746 any situation like that before. 80 00:04:08,540 --> 00:04:11,001 The doors were completely open to the public. 81 00:04:11,042 --> 00:04:13,712 Anybody could walk in. 82 00:04:13,795 --> 00:04:16,755 The atmosphere was really pretty electric, 83 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,050 if you like being around a lot of people 84 00:04:19,091 --> 00:04:20,301 and talking. 85 00:04:20,677 --> 00:04:22,220 It was radical. It was experimental. 86 00:04:22,303 --> 00:04:23,888 (curious music playing) 87 00:04:23,972 --> 00:04:26,558 Rod Mullen: At Synanon, there was this... 88 00:04:26,599 --> 00:04:29,477 willingness to experiment, 89 00:04:29,561 --> 00:04:33,273 and this search for real meaning. 90 00:04:33,898 --> 00:04:36,818 I think Chuck, like most charismatic leaders, 91 00:04:36,901 --> 00:04:41,531 would be characterized as grandiose. 92 00:04:41,573 --> 00:04:45,952 So, he developed this idea of building a city. 93 00:04:46,036 --> 00:04:49,664 (swing music playing) 94 00:04:55,420 --> 00:04:58,590 We're gonna build this city in Tomales Bay, 95 00:04:58,673 --> 00:05:01,092 and we're going to live in a way 96 00:05:01,134 --> 00:05:04,971 which is a model for how people could live in this country, 97 00:05:05,055 --> 00:05:07,390 you know, for how societies should be run. 98 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,186 Narrator: In 1970, we acquired a sprawling, 99 00:05:11,269 --> 00:05:14,230 beautiful ranch in Tomales Bay, 100 00:05:14,272 --> 00:05:15,607 which is about 80 miles north of 101 00:05:15,648 --> 00:05:18,568 the Oakland, San Francisco area. 102 00:05:18,610 --> 00:05:21,613 Terry Hurst: When Chuck decided to buy land in Tomales Bay, 103 00:05:21,696 --> 00:05:25,116 we got up there and turned it into a facility. 104 00:05:25,158 --> 00:05:27,619 (swing music continues) 105 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,497 Rod: Synanon had a real farm, 106 00:05:30,580 --> 00:05:32,624 you know, raising cattle 107 00:05:32,707 --> 00:05:34,876 - (laughs) and then sheep. - (bleating) 108 00:05:34,959 --> 00:05:38,129 Synanon built its own wastewater system. 109 00:05:38,755 --> 00:05:41,299 I mean, it really became a self-sustaining community. 110 00:05:41,383 --> 00:05:44,010 (clapping, cheering) 111 00:05:45,595 --> 00:05:48,431 At the time in America, 112 00:05:48,473 --> 00:05:52,227 there were lots of little living experiments, 113 00:05:52,310 --> 00:05:55,105 all over the place. 114 00:05:55,814 --> 00:05:59,192 Mike Gimbel: You saw a lot of this communal stuff happening, 115 00:05:59,275 --> 00:06:01,194 and Synanon (sighs)... 116 00:06:01,277 --> 00:06:03,071 was living better, 117 00:06:03,154 --> 00:06:05,615 had more money, more resources. 118 00:06:05,657 --> 00:06:08,493 We were growing very, very, very quickly. 119 00:06:08,576 --> 00:06:10,745 (horses galloping, whinnying) 120 00:06:10,829 --> 00:06:14,499 Chuck: We wanna provide an aesthetically pleasing, 121 00:06:14,541 --> 00:06:16,334 a psychologically pleasing, 122 00:06:16,376 --> 00:06:19,421 a philosophically pleasing, uh, place 123 00:06:19,504 --> 00:06:21,214 in which people can dwell. 124 00:06:21,297 --> 00:06:22,549 (indistinct chatter) 125 00:06:22,632 --> 00:06:24,259 What am I describing? 126 00:06:24,342 --> 00:06:26,970 - Paradise? - (breeze blowing) 127 00:06:27,012 --> 00:06:28,471 (gentle splashing) 128 00:06:28,513 --> 00:06:31,182 Mike: Chuck and Betty moved up there. 129 00:06:32,308 --> 00:06:34,019 Wherever Chuck and Betty lived, 130 00:06:34,060 --> 00:06:36,521 that was the home place. 131 00:06:36,563 --> 00:06:38,314 If you were up where Chuck was, 132 00:06:38,356 --> 00:06:40,233 you were like on sacred ground. 133 00:06:40,316 --> 00:06:41,860 (dining room chatter) 134 00:06:41,943 --> 00:06:44,404 Phil Bourdette: Living in Synanon, I would get up in the morning 135 00:06:44,487 --> 00:06:45,739 and go to the dining room, 136 00:06:45,822 --> 00:06:49,325 have breakfast and pack my lunch, 137 00:06:49,367 --> 00:06:51,327 and go to work in court 138 00:06:51,369 --> 00:06:53,371 because I lived in Synanon 139 00:06:53,455 --> 00:06:55,373 and worked in the public defender's office. 140 00:06:55,457 --> 00:06:57,667 - (soft music playing) - And then eventually, 141 00:06:57,709 --> 00:07:00,712 more and more of the Lifestylers 142 00:07:00,754 --> 00:07:02,172 started working within Synanon. 143 00:07:02,213 --> 00:07:03,673 (rumbling) 144 00:07:05,759 --> 00:07:09,387 And working outside of Synanon was totally phased out. 145 00:07:09,471 --> 00:07:12,432 (indistinct chatter) 146 00:07:12,515 --> 00:07:14,684 Ron Cook: When you were in Synanon, 147 00:07:14,726 --> 00:07:17,562 we had something called "containment." 148 00:07:17,604 --> 00:07:22,067 So, the notion was don't run outside of Synanon 149 00:07:22,150 --> 00:07:23,109 and waste your energy. 150 00:07:23,193 --> 00:07:25,695 Do whatever you're gonna do inside of Synanon 151 00:07:25,737 --> 00:07:27,322 and the whole community can benefit. 152 00:07:27,405 --> 00:07:30,367 ♪♪ 153 00:07:30,408 --> 00:07:32,659 Rod: Chuck had a philosophy. 154 00:07:33,453 --> 00:07:36,873 "Let's put all of our energy into creating 155 00:07:36,915 --> 00:07:40,168 this community to its best and highest level." 156 00:07:42,045 --> 00:07:44,422 Chuck: We need muscles in Synanon. 157 00:07:44,506 --> 00:07:46,341 We need moral muscles, 158 00:07:46,424 --> 00:07:48,802 social muscles, political muscles, 159 00:07:48,885 --> 00:07:51,429 emotional muscles, and physical muscles. 160 00:07:51,471 --> 00:07:55,392 We are a self-supporting organization. 161 00:07:55,433 --> 00:07:59,104 We must produce at all times. 162 00:08:03,066 --> 00:08:04,943 Phil Bourdette: Synanon had properties 163 00:08:05,568 --> 00:08:08,613 (sighs) throughout the United States. 164 00:08:08,655 --> 00:08:11,116 There were Santa Monica, San Francisco. 165 00:08:11,199 --> 00:08:13,868 In Marin County, there were three facilities. 166 00:08:13,952 --> 00:08:17,747 We owned property in New York and other places. 167 00:08:17,789 --> 00:08:20,500 And they were all basically run the same. 168 00:08:20,582 --> 00:08:22,836 They were all run as communities. 169 00:08:23,795 --> 00:08:26,506 Norm Johnson: Synanon was able to grow quickly. 170 00:08:27,716 --> 00:08:30,427 And I think Synanon changed, um... 171 00:08:31,136 --> 00:08:33,804 somewhat to the better, somewhat for the worse 172 00:08:34,097 --> 00:08:37,767 as a result of Lifestylers like me moving in. 173 00:08:38,643 --> 00:08:42,188 But I think Chuck had such an iron hand 174 00:08:42,272 --> 00:08:43,982 on that organization 175 00:08:44,024 --> 00:08:49,279 that most of the changes were driven by changes in Chuck. 176 00:08:53,116 --> 00:08:55,660 Chuck became preoccupied 177 00:08:56,536 --> 00:08:58,496 with having everybody hear 178 00:08:58,580 --> 00:09:00,999 every word that he uttered. 179 00:09:01,041 --> 00:09:03,335 Chuck (on radio): I suppose this is a rebirth... 180 00:09:03,376 --> 00:09:05,295 (scrubbing, radio static) 181 00:09:05,337 --> 00:09:09,549 Individual Singers: ♪ W... 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E... ♪ 182 00:09:09,632 --> 00:09:14,262 - Quartet: ♪ Wire ♪ - (beeping) 183 00:09:14,929 --> 00:09:17,724 Elena Broslovsky: The Wire was an internal radio network 184 00:09:17,807 --> 00:09:21,061 that connected every facility in Synanon. 185 00:09:21,144 --> 00:09:25,982 Quartet: ♪ It's a communications tool that also entertains ♪ 186 00:09:26,024 --> 00:09:29,903 ♪ 88FM is where my dial will remain! ♪ 187 00:09:29,986 --> 00:09:32,238 Elena: There were these little boxes 188 00:09:32,322 --> 00:09:35,784 that were all over the place that you could turn on. 189 00:09:35,867 --> 00:09:37,827 Get the news, listen to Games. 190 00:09:37,869 --> 00:09:41,039 You had 24-hour connection with every facility. 191 00:09:41,122 --> 00:09:43,917 - (beeping) - You could hear what was happening in Santa Monica. 192 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,544 - (wire chatter) - You could hear what was happening 193 00:09:46,628 --> 00:09:48,963 in San Francisco house. 194 00:09:49,673 --> 00:09:52,384 We had Marin County, we had Oakland, 195 00:09:52,425 --> 00:09:54,969 San Diego, Detroit. 196 00:09:55,053 --> 00:09:57,681 Chuck: The parts of this organization 197 00:09:57,722 --> 00:10:00,517 are so far apart. 198 00:10:00,558 --> 00:10:04,896 Now, we have an instantaneous 199 00:10:04,979 --> 00:10:08,108 speed-of-light communication 200 00:10:08,191 --> 00:10:11,736 both ways, operated all the time! 201 00:10:11,820 --> 00:10:13,738 (indistinct chatter) 202 00:10:13,822 --> 00:10:17,200 Mike: The Wire really allowed Chuck to be 203 00:10:17,242 --> 00:10:19,869 everywhere all the time. 204 00:10:19,911 --> 00:10:23,081 Chuck: Synanon has an investment in you, 205 00:10:23,164 --> 00:10:26,209 and you have an investment in Synanon. 206 00:10:26,251 --> 00:10:27,752 Mike: 99% of the time, 207 00:10:27,836 --> 00:10:31,256 it was Chuck either playing the Game, 208 00:10:31,297 --> 00:10:33,591 giving a seminar, 209 00:10:33,675 --> 00:10:36,678 even his table where he ate his meals 210 00:10:38,179 --> 00:10:40,390 had a microphone in the middle of it. 211 00:10:40,432 --> 00:10:42,559 Chuck: If we examine ourselves, 212 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,938 we, we can actualize ourselves. 213 00:10:46,980 --> 00:10:49,941 Everything he said was taped, 214 00:10:50,025 --> 00:10:53,194 and he would just bring up various topics. 215 00:10:53,737 --> 00:10:56,948 Part of my job was to listen to those tapes, 216 00:10:56,990 --> 00:11:00,076 make excerpts, and play them later on. 217 00:11:01,369 --> 00:11:04,330 Chuck: Everybody on the outside, that I know of, 218 00:11:04,414 --> 00:11:09,044 lives under a whole flock of dictatorships. 219 00:11:09,127 --> 00:11:11,296 The man's being dictated to by his... 220 00:11:11,379 --> 00:11:12,589 Mike: The way Chuck worked, 221 00:11:12,630 --> 00:11:15,091 he would be talking, you know, 222 00:11:15,133 --> 00:11:18,178 and as he would talk, ideas would come out. 223 00:11:18,762 --> 00:11:20,722 And then, he started slowly 224 00:11:20,805 --> 00:11:23,683 mandating behavior throughout Synanon. 225 00:11:23,767 --> 00:11:26,770 ♪ Where do they go ♪ 226 00:11:26,811 --> 00:11:28,563 ("Smoke Rings" by Sam Cooke playing) 227 00:11:28,646 --> 00:11:31,524 ♪ Smoke rings I blow ♪ 228 00:11:31,608 --> 00:11:35,028 ♪ Each night ♪ 229 00:11:35,111 --> 00:11:38,448 Synanon was founded on non-violence, 230 00:11:38,490 --> 00:11:41,618 no use of drugs or alcohol. 231 00:11:41,659 --> 00:11:43,828 It was also founded on 232 00:11:44,162 --> 00:11:46,289 free cigarettes. 233 00:11:46,331 --> 00:11:47,874 ♪ Puff ♪ 234 00:11:47,957 --> 00:11:50,502 ♪ Puff, puff ♪ 235 00:11:51,252 --> 00:11:55,256 ♪ Oh, you can puff your cares away ♪ 236 00:11:55,590 --> 00:11:58,760 Chuck: I've been a compulsive smoker since I was 15 years old. 237 00:11:58,843 --> 00:12:01,054 Probably three packages a day. 238 00:12:01,721 --> 00:12:03,848 A doctor scared me into thinking 239 00:12:03,932 --> 00:12:05,850 that I had fatal emphysema, 240 00:12:05,892 --> 00:12:09,187 and, uh, I quit smoking. 241 00:12:09,229 --> 00:12:11,064 And I raised so much hell about it, 242 00:12:11,147 --> 00:12:12,982 that everybody quit smoking. 243 00:12:14,025 --> 00:12:17,862 Bill Goodson: It's an interesting thing how Synanon seemed 244 00:12:17,904 --> 00:12:19,906 to always be a mirror 245 00:12:19,989 --> 00:12:22,200 of what was happening in Chuck's life. 246 00:12:22,242 --> 00:12:24,994 In the early stages of Synanon, 247 00:12:25,036 --> 00:12:27,414 he was fighting to stay clean. 248 00:12:27,497 --> 00:12:29,290 So, that's what Synanon did. 249 00:12:29,374 --> 00:12:30,792 (soft music playing) 250 00:12:30,875 --> 00:12:32,419 And then later on, 251 00:12:32,502 --> 00:12:36,339 he needed to stop smoking, all of Synanon stopped smoking. 252 00:12:36,381 --> 00:12:39,217 (Chuck speaking indistinctly) 253 00:12:39,300 --> 00:12:40,760 Mike: Everything up to this point 254 00:12:40,844 --> 00:12:42,929 was you bought into the concept, 255 00:12:43,013 --> 00:12:45,557 and, you know, you got into it. 256 00:12:45,807 --> 00:12:48,351 This is the first time that he really... 257 00:12:48,393 --> 00:12:52,105 It really felt like you had to do something. 258 00:12:52,188 --> 00:12:54,357 Judi: When the edict came down for no smoking, 259 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:57,402 my parents ended up leaving shortly after. 260 00:12:58,361 --> 00:13:00,613 They were both smokers, and that pissed them off 261 00:13:00,697 --> 00:13:04,159 because they did not really like being told what to do. 262 00:13:04,242 --> 00:13:08,079 But, try as they might to get me out, they could not. 263 00:13:08,872 --> 00:13:10,874 And then after that, I just didn't talk to them 264 00:13:10,915 --> 00:13:12,834 for a couple of years. (laughs) 265 00:13:12,917 --> 00:13:15,128 I just had nothing to do with them at all. 266 00:13:16,713 --> 00:13:19,049 Mike: Chuck was challenging people, 267 00:13:19,090 --> 00:13:20,633 and if you don't like it, 268 00:13:20,717 --> 00:13:22,093 you can leave. 269 00:13:22,177 --> 00:13:24,721 And then, he said the people that stayed were stronger, 270 00:13:24,763 --> 00:13:26,598 more committed to Synanon. 271 00:13:26,681 --> 00:13:28,224 That was the deal. That's how it worked. 272 00:13:30,602 --> 00:13:35,648 You know hundreds of people left Synanon when we quit smoking. 273 00:13:35,732 --> 00:13:38,026 That was probably the first big exodus 274 00:13:38,109 --> 00:13:40,820 with that first edict. 275 00:13:40,904 --> 00:13:42,572 Some people said, "Well, I'm not doing that. 276 00:13:43,615 --> 00:13:45,033 I'm leaving," you know? 277 00:13:45,116 --> 00:13:48,036 And then, other people didn't. 278 00:13:48,119 --> 00:13:50,121 And then, a lot of people moved in after. 279 00:13:50,163 --> 00:13:52,499 - (birds chirping) - (quiet chatter) 280 00:13:52,999 --> 00:13:56,336 People had children who were in Synanon, 281 00:13:56,419 --> 00:13:58,755 people who were moving in with children. 282 00:13:58,797 --> 00:14:00,465 So, just like any family, 283 00:14:00,507 --> 00:14:04,636 it was this continuum of raising children. 284 00:14:04,719 --> 00:14:08,014 - (birds chirping) - (bike rattling) 285 00:14:08,098 --> 00:14:10,225 Synanon Member: Okay, who knows how to hop like a kangaroo? 286 00:14:10,308 --> 00:14:13,311 - (kids chattering) - You do? Okay, everybody... 287 00:14:13,353 --> 00:14:14,688 (indistinct) 288 00:14:14,771 --> 00:14:18,817 Miriam Bourdette: My mother, who was a nursery school director, 289 00:14:18,900 --> 00:14:22,821 decided to talk to Betty and suggested 290 00:14:22,904 --> 00:14:25,990 that we do what they do on, 291 00:14:26,074 --> 00:14:30,995 or did, on the kibbutzim in Israel. 292 00:14:31,079 --> 00:14:34,332 House the children separately from their parents, 293 00:14:34,374 --> 00:14:39,129 and have caretakers looking after them. 294 00:14:39,170 --> 00:14:42,173 - (kids chattering) - (soft music playing) 295 00:14:43,758 --> 00:14:47,012 Chuck: We know it's a better way to raise children. 296 00:14:47,637 --> 00:14:50,515 The nuclear family way of raising children 297 00:14:50,557 --> 00:14:52,851 doesn't test the child's brain! 298 00:14:52,892 --> 00:14:55,103 There's not enough input. 299 00:14:55,979 --> 00:15:00,483 Kids would grow up around 30 or 40 adults 300 00:15:00,567 --> 00:15:03,987 instead of two, Mama and Papa. 301 00:15:04,029 --> 00:15:07,198 Talk better, run better, are much smarter. 302 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,284 ♪♪ 303 00:15:12,078 --> 00:15:14,372 (kids chattering) 304 00:15:14,414 --> 00:15:16,291 Synanon Member: The object of the hikes is 305 00:15:16,374 --> 00:15:18,293 it's a real way for us to teach 306 00:15:18,376 --> 00:15:22,380 how to, uh, use this land around here. 307 00:15:22,464 --> 00:15:24,966 (chatter continues) 308 00:15:25,050 --> 00:15:28,011 It was an alternative experiment. 309 00:15:30,388 --> 00:15:33,183 It was an effort to do something better. 310 00:15:33,224 --> 00:15:36,061 To give all of our kids 311 00:15:36,144 --> 00:15:39,856 a better experience than we had had. 312 00:15:39,898 --> 00:15:41,691 (birds chirping) 313 00:15:42,901 --> 00:15:44,194 Synanon Member: Look at the bunny rabbit. 314 00:15:44,235 --> 00:15:45,904 Look at the bunny rabbit up on the hill. 315 00:15:45,987 --> 00:15:47,781 Child: A rabbit's in there? 316 00:15:47,864 --> 00:15:49,407 Synanon Member: That's a rabbit in there. 317 00:15:49,824 --> 00:15:51,743 Jady Dederich Montgomery: By 1971, 318 00:15:51,826 --> 00:15:53,953 it had been decided 319 00:15:54,037 --> 00:15:57,415 that the kids should go into the school at 7 months, 320 00:15:57,457 --> 00:15:59,501 so that they wouldn't attach to the parents, 321 00:15:59,584 --> 00:16:01,336 and then therefore, wouldn't experience 322 00:16:01,419 --> 00:16:05,131 separation trauma when they went into the school later. 323 00:16:07,092 --> 00:16:09,969 The father of my children was Bill Crawford, 324 00:16:10,053 --> 00:16:12,305 my first husband. 325 00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:17,185 We had two kids, including Rebekah. 326 00:16:17,268 --> 00:16:19,562 Rebekah Crawford: Both of my parents were in Synanon 327 00:16:19,604 --> 00:16:21,064 when I was born, 328 00:16:21,106 --> 00:16:23,024 you know, ex-dope fiends. 329 00:16:23,108 --> 00:16:24,818 So I lived with them for six months, 330 00:16:24,901 --> 00:16:26,986 and then, when I was 6 months old, 331 00:16:27,070 --> 00:16:29,030 I moved into the hatchery, 332 00:16:29,114 --> 00:16:30,990 which is where the babies were moved into. 333 00:16:31,074 --> 00:16:33,618 - (babies crying) - Miriam: All the cribs 334 00:16:33,702 --> 00:16:35,537 were put in the bedrooms, 335 00:16:35,620 --> 00:16:38,581 and their parents did not live in the house. 336 00:16:38,623 --> 00:16:39,915 (gentle music playing) 337 00:16:39,958 --> 00:16:42,919 They were welcome to visit, 338 00:16:42,961 --> 00:16:45,422 take their kids out for an outing. 339 00:16:45,463 --> 00:16:48,466 Elena: We took care of each other's children. 340 00:16:48,508 --> 00:16:51,094 So we nursed each other's children, 341 00:16:51,136 --> 00:16:54,055 and we gave each other time off. 342 00:16:55,306 --> 00:17:00,103 Now, for me, I was breast-feeding my baby, 343 00:17:00,145 --> 00:17:02,355 and my friends' babies 344 00:17:02,439 --> 00:17:06,026 and it was not odd for me at all. 345 00:17:06,108 --> 00:17:07,986 It was completely natural. 346 00:17:08,028 --> 00:17:10,655 It was completely joyful. 347 00:17:10,739 --> 00:17:12,115 (baby crying) 348 00:17:12,156 --> 00:17:15,993 The looking into the eye of an infant 349 00:17:16,036 --> 00:17:18,329 who has just come into the world 350 00:17:18,413 --> 00:17:22,625 and is getting nourishment directly from your body. 351 00:17:24,002 --> 00:17:27,047 It was a very, uh, for me, 352 00:17:27,130 --> 00:17:30,675 wonderful experience to nurse a lot of children. 353 00:17:30,759 --> 00:17:33,345 (baby fussing) 354 00:17:33,428 --> 00:17:35,555 We were supposed to be the community's children, 355 00:17:35,638 --> 00:17:38,016 and we were supposed to be the future. 356 00:17:38,099 --> 00:17:40,477 (kids chattering) 357 00:17:40,518 --> 00:17:42,687 Rebekah: I think that my mother, 358 00:17:42,729 --> 00:17:46,733 she thought she was giving me the best possible 359 00:17:46,816 --> 00:17:49,861 life that she could give me. 360 00:17:49,903 --> 00:17:52,947 Which was by not being my parent. 361 00:17:53,406 --> 00:17:55,408 And she might've been right. 362 00:17:55,492 --> 00:17:56,701 (indistinct) 363 00:17:56,785 --> 00:17:58,912 I don't think my mom is, 364 00:17:58,995 --> 00:18:01,706 or was, a very maternal person. 365 00:18:02,207 --> 00:18:03,875 I don't know if I could've handled it, 366 00:18:03,917 --> 00:18:05,960 and because I... (laughs) 367 00:18:06,378 --> 00:18:08,296 I don't know that I'm fit to be a mother 368 00:18:08,380 --> 00:18:12,717 of two infant toddlers at once. 369 00:18:12,759 --> 00:18:16,596 (gentle music playing) 370 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,141 This is... this is a picture of my dad 371 00:18:20,225 --> 00:18:23,978 with Leida, my daughter. 372 00:18:24,062 --> 00:18:28,066 The truth was that she was not the priority in my life. 373 00:18:28,108 --> 00:18:30,068 Day to day. 374 00:18:30,151 --> 00:18:33,822 That Synanon was the priority, day to day. 375 00:18:36,074 --> 00:18:38,201 I was the founder's daughter. 376 00:18:39,452 --> 00:18:42,914 So I had to, had to be at the front of the pack 377 00:18:42,997 --> 00:18:44,791 with the latest... 378 00:18:46,751 --> 00:18:51,589 you know, the latest war on convention. 379 00:18:51,673 --> 00:18:54,718 (swing music playing) 380 00:19:02,684 --> 00:19:04,227 (swing music ends) 381 00:19:04,269 --> 00:19:07,147 Bob: Chuck, you know, he was a thinker. 382 00:19:07,230 --> 00:19:08,690 And he had 383 00:19:08,773 --> 00:19:11,526 a very sort of aggrandized sense of himself. 384 00:19:11,609 --> 00:19:15,405 He sort of got bored with the rehabilitation program. 385 00:19:15,447 --> 00:19:17,907 I think we went into the period 386 00:19:17,949 --> 00:19:20,994 of the institute of social experiments at that point. 387 00:19:22,078 --> 00:19:26,750 Chuck: This community is now consciously, and by design, 388 00:19:26,791 --> 00:19:30,795 conducting all kinds of different living experiments 389 00:19:30,837 --> 00:19:33,631 that will enhance the human experience. 390 00:19:33,715 --> 00:19:36,092 (quiet chatter) 391 00:19:36,134 --> 00:19:38,345 Bob: Part of the experimentation 392 00:19:38,428 --> 00:19:41,473 was to go into longer Games. 393 00:19:41,514 --> 00:19:44,768 The Stew was a form of game that was continuous. 394 00:19:45,894 --> 00:19:47,270 Oh, the Stew. 395 00:19:47,812 --> 00:19:49,439 It didn't have an end and a beginning. 396 00:19:49,481 --> 00:19:52,233 It would have different people scheduled in 397 00:19:52,317 --> 00:19:55,403 at different times. So, it was a lot of gaming... 398 00:19:55,487 --> 00:19:58,031 Oh, it also had a gallery so people could watch, 399 00:19:58,114 --> 00:19:59,824 and people could tap in 400 00:19:59,908 --> 00:20:02,160 if they had something to say to somebody. 401 00:20:02,243 --> 00:20:04,579 (indistinct chatter) 402 00:20:04,662 --> 00:20:06,373 Bob: Sometimes when I'd come home at night, 403 00:20:06,456 --> 00:20:08,500 I'd go up to the Stew Room and just sit there. 404 00:20:08,541 --> 00:20:10,627 And you got to hear them talk. 405 00:20:10,669 --> 00:20:12,587 Stew player: And they don't see that in you, Jack! 406 00:20:12,671 --> 00:20:16,966 Bob: We were like carrots and peas and-and potatoes 407 00:20:17,008 --> 00:20:18,802 thrown into this thing 408 00:20:18,843 --> 00:20:21,054 that was bubbling on the stove for 24 hours. 409 00:20:21,137 --> 00:20:24,057 (Stew chatter) 410 00:20:24,140 --> 00:20:28,520 We tried the 24-hour sessions, and they were, they were good. 411 00:20:29,604 --> 00:20:31,731 But we felt there was more. 412 00:20:31,815 --> 00:20:35,360 So from that, we started to develop the Trip. 413 00:20:35,402 --> 00:20:38,655 (dramatic mystical music playing) 414 00:20:48,873 --> 00:20:50,875 Phil Ritter: The original idea of the Trip 415 00:20:50,959 --> 00:20:56,381 was based on Chuck's prior experience with LSD. 416 00:20:58,717 --> 00:21:03,388 A couple of professors and researchers at UCLA 417 00:21:03,888 --> 00:21:06,933 were conducting LSD studies. 418 00:21:08,268 --> 00:21:12,230 Chuck: August 26th, 1957. 419 00:21:12,272 --> 00:21:14,607 I was given some LSD. 420 00:21:14,691 --> 00:21:18,778 Something began to well up and boil up in me. 421 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,281 - (baby crying) - There was a curtain shot back. 422 00:21:21,364 --> 00:21:22,782 (bees buzzing) 423 00:21:22,866 --> 00:21:26,327 Things became exquisitely important 424 00:21:26,411 --> 00:21:30,498 and exquisitely unimportant at the same time. 425 00:21:32,542 --> 00:21:36,338 Rod: Chuck attributed a lot of his vision about Synanon 426 00:21:36,421 --> 00:21:38,506 from his LSD trip. 427 00:21:38,590 --> 00:21:42,719 So these intensive workshops, which were called "the Trip," 428 00:21:42,802 --> 00:21:44,596 were really kind of a... 429 00:21:44,679 --> 00:21:47,140 let's-let's do it without drugs. 430 00:21:47,223 --> 00:21:50,268 (indistinct chatter) 431 00:21:50,310 --> 00:21:54,773 On the Trips, there was lots of deep... 432 00:21:55,523 --> 00:21:58,985 intrapersonal stuff that happened and came up. 433 00:22:00,570 --> 00:22:04,366 I was 17, and my first Trip 434 00:22:04,449 --> 00:22:07,285 just opened me up. 435 00:22:07,744 --> 00:22:10,121 It was an encounter with my dad. 436 00:22:10,205 --> 00:22:12,290 I never really knew if he liked me, 437 00:22:12,332 --> 00:22:14,334 you know, or loved me or anything. 438 00:22:14,417 --> 00:22:17,462 He wasn't demonstrative in certain ways. 439 00:22:17,504 --> 00:22:21,132 I was living at the Santa Monica facility. 440 00:22:21,216 --> 00:22:23,593 And there were these Trips every weekend. 441 00:22:23,635 --> 00:22:25,679 Every weekend, there were a hundred people 442 00:22:25,762 --> 00:22:28,973 going through these experiences in the building there. 443 00:22:30,141 --> 00:22:31,434 And there I was, you know? 444 00:22:31,476 --> 00:22:33,478 (soft music playing) 445 00:22:33,561 --> 00:22:37,982 Elena: The Trip was a three-day guided experience. 446 00:22:38,775 --> 00:22:42,487 All of your makeup comes off. All of your jewelry comes off. 447 00:22:42,529 --> 00:22:44,280 (indistinct chatter) 448 00:22:44,322 --> 00:22:46,241 You change into a white robe, 449 00:22:46,324 --> 00:22:49,327 and you go into a room. 450 00:22:49,786 --> 00:22:51,454 And the hierarchy of the Trip 451 00:22:51,496 --> 00:22:54,040 was there were shepherds, and there were guides. 452 00:22:54,124 --> 00:22:56,376 (clapping) 453 00:22:56,459 --> 00:22:59,671 And Chuck put me in charge as the Trip Conductor. 454 00:23:00,964 --> 00:23:02,632 It was built around 455 00:23:02,674 --> 00:23:06,845 trying to get people to have deep insight into themselves. 456 00:23:06,886 --> 00:23:09,472 ♪♪ 457 00:23:09,514 --> 00:23:12,976 (indistinct yelling) 458 00:23:13,018 --> 00:23:15,478 It started out with Compression Gaming. 459 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:16,771 (yelling continues) 460 00:23:16,855 --> 00:23:20,942 Very angry, very aggressive in your face. 461 00:23:21,026 --> 00:23:21,860 (indistinct) 462 00:23:21,901 --> 00:23:24,571 "You're a fuck-up, you're lying." 463 00:23:25,363 --> 00:23:27,240 To soften up the subject. 464 00:23:27,323 --> 00:23:29,200 Why don't you let me talk?! 465 00:23:29,284 --> 00:23:30,702 Fucking bad rap! 466 00:23:30,785 --> 00:23:33,872 Terry: So for four hours they had confrontive therapy 467 00:23:33,955 --> 00:23:36,374 - through the Game. - (whistle blowing) 468 00:23:36,416 --> 00:23:39,169 - (applause) - (friendly chatter) 469 00:23:39,210 --> 00:23:41,546 After that, they were laid out, 470 00:23:41,588 --> 00:23:43,715 and I put them in an alpha state. 471 00:23:43,757 --> 00:23:47,218 - (quiet chatter) - (soft music playing) 472 00:23:47,302 --> 00:23:48,595 You either didn't sleep, 473 00:23:48,678 --> 00:23:51,056 or you slept for a few minutes, or... 474 00:23:51,097 --> 00:23:54,309 Your time was broken up in different, in different ways. 475 00:23:54,392 --> 00:23:56,603 But it was difficult. (sighs) 476 00:23:56,686 --> 00:23:59,439 Staying up for those three days was really, really hard. 477 00:23:59,522 --> 00:24:00,774 (quiet chatter) 478 00:24:00,857 --> 00:24:04,694 It was a way to really get into people's psyches. 479 00:24:06,071 --> 00:24:09,199 Chuck: The biggest tool we have is fatigue. 480 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,535 The toxic effect of fatigue! 481 00:24:12,577 --> 00:24:15,997 It distorts the way they look at themselves. 482 00:24:16,081 --> 00:24:18,583 Then, you can make the person believe anything. 483 00:24:18,625 --> 00:24:21,378 (foreboding music playing) 484 00:24:22,170 --> 00:24:26,007 Miriam: And then, the guide would start drawing out 485 00:24:26,883 --> 00:24:28,927 the painful parts of their life, 486 00:24:28,968 --> 00:24:31,471 most of which they had never talked about. 487 00:24:31,554 --> 00:24:33,807 (whooshing) 488 00:24:34,683 --> 00:24:37,435 We had Holocaust survivors. 489 00:24:37,519 --> 00:24:41,481 They still had dreams and fears. 490 00:24:41,564 --> 00:24:43,983 Judi: Experiences in Vietnam. 491 00:24:44,067 --> 00:24:46,277 Killing people, seeing people die. 492 00:24:46,319 --> 00:24:47,779 Phil Ritter: Injecting their partners 493 00:24:47,862 --> 00:24:50,573 and having them die of an overdose. 494 00:24:50,615 --> 00:24:52,617 Terry: The most startling confession 495 00:24:52,701 --> 00:24:54,911 was one of the drug addicts said 496 00:24:54,953 --> 00:24:57,539 that he threw a baby in a trash can. 497 00:24:57,622 --> 00:24:58,957 (music stops) 498 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,834 In a dumpster. 499 00:25:01,876 --> 00:25:02,919 (sniffles) 500 00:25:03,670 --> 00:25:05,338 (indistinct chatter) 501 00:25:05,422 --> 00:25:09,009 And I remember him saying, "I can't live with this." 502 00:25:09,092 --> 00:25:11,261 (soft crying) 503 00:25:11,928 --> 00:25:15,849 For somebody to be that disturbed by what they did, 504 00:25:15,932 --> 00:25:18,518 even if they were using, even if they were high, 505 00:25:18,601 --> 00:25:21,646 it had to be horrible and traumatic. 506 00:25:22,439 --> 00:25:25,191 Practically everybody in the group got up and hugged him. 507 00:25:25,275 --> 00:25:26,484 (soft music playing) 508 00:25:26,568 --> 00:25:28,361 They forgave him. 509 00:25:28,445 --> 00:25:31,906 ♪♪ 510 00:25:36,786 --> 00:25:38,997 At the end of the Trip, 511 00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:43,209 people were tired and hungry and, you know, very emotional. 512 00:25:44,419 --> 00:25:46,796 - (crying) - Elena: Everybody goes down 513 00:25:46,838 --> 00:25:49,341 to the one room where the band is playing. 514 00:25:49,424 --> 00:25:50,717 (cheering) 515 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,260 Everybody's hugging each other 516 00:25:52,344 --> 00:25:55,013 and lifting each other up and thanking each other. 517 00:25:55,096 --> 00:25:58,516 (music gradually builds) 518 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,227 Jady: I remember coming down from the Trip. 519 00:26:03,355 --> 00:26:05,690 We'd been up for days. 520 00:26:05,774 --> 00:26:07,609 - (clapping) - I was just a kid 521 00:26:07,692 --> 00:26:10,195 in this emotional soup. 522 00:26:10,236 --> 00:26:12,072 (inaudible) 523 00:26:12,155 --> 00:26:13,740 I turned around. I looked at my dad. 524 00:26:13,823 --> 00:26:15,075 You know, Betty was sitting there, 525 00:26:15,158 --> 00:26:16,534 and I ran over to him. 526 00:26:16,576 --> 00:26:17,869 (inaudible) 527 00:26:17,911 --> 00:26:21,039 I just remember, you know, falling into his arms, 528 00:26:21,081 --> 00:26:23,708 and him, you know, holding me and... 529 00:26:24,626 --> 00:26:26,002 telling me that he loved me, 530 00:26:26,044 --> 00:26:27,212 you know, which he had never said. 531 00:26:27,295 --> 00:26:31,716 - (calm music playing) - (indistinct chatter) 532 00:26:32,926 --> 00:26:34,969 (inaudible) 533 00:26:37,389 --> 00:26:41,518 You know, so many people are just crushingly lonely, 534 00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:44,729 and don't have community. 535 00:26:46,231 --> 00:26:48,149 (inaudible) 536 00:26:49,442 --> 00:26:51,569 It was tribal. 537 00:26:51,611 --> 00:26:54,739 And it was such a deep comfort. 538 00:26:55,615 --> 00:26:57,992 There was this love. 539 00:26:58,076 --> 00:26:59,744 And this need for connection. 540 00:26:59,828 --> 00:27:03,081 (gentle crescendo) 541 00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:09,921 - (gentle splashing) - (music fades out) 542 00:27:11,381 --> 00:27:14,592 - (kids chattering, laughing) - (seagulls cawing) 543 00:27:15,510 --> 00:27:18,888 Lance Kenton: Synanon was the single greatest place 544 00:27:18,930 --> 00:27:21,057 you could grow up as a kid. 545 00:27:21,099 --> 00:27:24,352 I went into Synanon when I was 11 years old. 546 00:27:24,436 --> 00:27:27,105 - (jazz music playing) - My father was Stan Kenton, 547 00:27:27,188 --> 00:27:29,441 and he was one of the first to begin 548 00:27:29,482 --> 00:27:32,277 playing concert forums with jazz. 549 00:27:32,318 --> 00:27:35,030 (jazz continues) 550 00:27:35,113 --> 00:27:37,365 Being on the road 12 months a year, you know. 551 00:27:37,449 --> 00:27:38,533 ♪♪ 552 00:27:38,616 --> 00:27:41,494 My father decided to enroll me in Synanon. 553 00:27:41,578 --> 00:27:42,704 To live there. 554 00:27:42,787 --> 00:27:44,456 Instructor: One, two, three. 555 00:27:44,497 --> 00:27:48,001 Lance: I would see him maybe sometimes twice a month, 556 00:27:48,084 --> 00:27:51,755 but infrequent. My mother didn't come very much at all. 557 00:27:51,796 --> 00:27:53,465 Basically, you treated every single person there 558 00:27:53,506 --> 00:27:55,008 like they were in your family. 559 00:27:55,091 --> 00:27:56,926 (chattering) 560 00:27:56,968 --> 00:27:58,720 My kids moved into the school, 561 00:27:58,803 --> 00:28:00,764 and I started working at the school. 562 00:28:00,805 --> 00:28:03,892 I didn't really have any other skills 563 00:28:03,975 --> 00:28:07,437 that were... You know, I wasn't like a carpenter or a lawyer, 564 00:28:07,479 --> 00:28:09,522 or anything like that. 565 00:28:09,606 --> 00:28:12,484 Uh, so that was kind of my assignment. 566 00:28:12,525 --> 00:28:14,736 The academic structure 567 00:28:14,819 --> 00:28:16,696 vacillated and changed, 568 00:28:16,780 --> 00:28:20,075 and sometimes, it was very... 569 00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:22,452 rigid and focused... 570 00:28:22,494 --> 00:28:24,162 Well, I... Wait, let me just stop. 571 00:28:24,245 --> 00:28:26,790 It was never really rigid and focused. 572 00:28:27,123 --> 00:28:30,835 It was always, um, experimental. 573 00:28:30,877 --> 00:28:34,714 - (curious music playing) - (school chatter) 574 00:28:37,217 --> 00:28:38,301 (all exhale) 575 00:28:41,554 --> 00:28:43,306 (indistinct chatter) 576 00:28:44,891 --> 00:28:46,976 Lance: The school's philosophy was 577 00:28:47,018 --> 00:28:49,354 let a kid decide what he wants to learn, 578 00:28:49,396 --> 00:28:52,649 and let him go in and play with whatever it is he wants to do. 579 00:28:52,691 --> 00:28:54,401 ♪♪ 580 00:28:54,484 --> 00:28:56,653 I mean, we didn't have homework. We weren't really studying. 581 00:28:56,736 --> 00:28:59,781 You know, at that point, we were self-teaching. 582 00:29:00,573 --> 00:29:03,576 Bill: They would, like, put us in front of typewriters and go, 583 00:29:03,660 --> 00:29:06,329 "Free expression, just... (sighs) 584 00:29:06,371 --> 00:29:10,083 Just let it go." And so, we would just... (laughs) 585 00:29:10,166 --> 00:29:11,334 (inaudible) 586 00:29:11,376 --> 00:29:13,837 And then, we had things like "reaches and searches," 587 00:29:13,878 --> 00:29:17,674 which were very avant-garde learning sessions 588 00:29:17,716 --> 00:29:19,175 that would go on for hours 589 00:29:19,217 --> 00:29:20,427 where you would search out things 590 00:29:20,510 --> 00:29:22,303 like "How does chalk stay on a blackboard?" 591 00:29:22,387 --> 00:29:23,930 (inaudible) 592 00:29:24,014 --> 00:29:25,849 They used to test us, 593 00:29:25,890 --> 00:29:28,226 you know, every now and then. Like the same tests 594 00:29:28,309 --> 00:29:31,229 that all the high sc... all-all kids in America take. 595 00:29:31,312 --> 00:29:32,731 ♪♪ 596 00:29:32,772 --> 00:29:35,942 Rod: The study is, is a-a comparative study 597 00:29:36,026 --> 00:29:39,070 of Synanon versus non-Synanon children. 598 00:29:39,154 --> 00:29:42,407 I think the graph speaks for itself. (laughs) 599 00:29:43,533 --> 00:29:45,243 The Synanon kids 600 00:29:45,285 --> 00:29:49,080 exceeded the comparison group on every measure, 601 00:29:49,164 --> 00:29:53,001 including having IQ points 15 points above. 602 00:29:53,084 --> 00:29:57,756 It's one of the most interesting things that occurred in Synanon. 603 00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:01,176 - (seagulls cawing) - (curious music playing) 604 00:30:01,217 --> 00:30:05,138 (gentle splashing) 605 00:30:05,221 --> 00:30:08,266 Mike: I was in the Santa Monica facility. 606 00:30:08,350 --> 00:30:11,269 I find out that I was selected 607 00:30:11,311 --> 00:30:15,398 to go to Tomales Bay, at that facility where Chuck was. 608 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,276 (waves splashing) 609 00:30:21,071 --> 00:30:24,449 Ron Cook gave me the job that I'd be working 610 00:30:24,532 --> 00:30:26,368 for the board of directors. 611 00:30:27,744 --> 00:30:30,872 The board members, some of them were 612 00:30:30,955 --> 00:30:33,416 Chuck's brother, 613 00:30:33,458 --> 00:30:35,168 his son, his daughter. 614 00:30:36,586 --> 00:30:39,714 And then, they would bring in a couple outsiders. 615 00:30:39,798 --> 00:30:41,716 People that either gave their businesses 616 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,427 or held executive positions. 617 00:30:46,137 --> 00:30:49,974 And I was to make sure they were all taken care of. 618 00:30:50,016 --> 00:30:53,144 We got on the Synanon bus, and we drive up, 619 00:30:53,186 --> 00:30:56,648 and one of the girls that was taking us, 620 00:30:56,731 --> 00:30:58,692 her name was Stephanie Andreucci. 621 00:30:59,150 --> 00:31:01,778 And she was a tough cookie, too, 622 00:31:01,820 --> 00:31:04,030 because she came from Detroit, 623 00:31:04,114 --> 00:31:07,617 and her father was in the Hell's Angels. 624 00:31:07,659 --> 00:31:10,328 At Synanon, she was the chef. 625 00:31:11,663 --> 00:31:14,332 And so, Stephanie would cook, and I would help. 626 00:31:16,042 --> 00:31:18,003 We were around each other all the time. 627 00:31:18,086 --> 00:31:19,879 We had built a really good friendship, 628 00:31:19,963 --> 00:31:22,674 and we were really, really close. 629 00:31:22,757 --> 00:31:24,009 And then one day, 630 00:31:24,092 --> 00:31:26,803 we were doing the lunch, cleaning up, pulling the stuff, 631 00:31:26,845 --> 00:31:29,514 and Chuck and Ron Cook, 632 00:31:29,556 --> 00:31:31,307 you know, were looking at us, 633 00:31:31,349 --> 00:31:33,226 and-and Chuck said, "You know? 634 00:31:33,309 --> 00:31:36,271 The two of you are very good for Synanon." 635 00:31:36,354 --> 00:31:38,773 Three days later, we were married. (laughs) 636 00:31:38,857 --> 00:31:42,527 ♪♪ 637 00:31:42,569 --> 00:31:44,195 I mean, it was wonderful. 638 00:31:45,613 --> 00:31:46,740 I was in love. 639 00:31:46,823 --> 00:31:49,868 - (birds chirping) - (motorcycles rumbling) 640 00:31:49,951 --> 00:31:51,661 We both had motorcycles, 641 00:31:51,745 --> 00:31:53,371 just like everybody else at Synanon, 642 00:31:53,413 --> 00:31:57,167 so Stephanie and I would take our motorcycles out together. 643 00:31:57,208 --> 00:31:59,544 And we really were a good team together. 644 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,090 For me, and for her, 645 00:32:04,174 --> 00:32:08,053 it was the first relationship we ever had... 646 00:32:09,054 --> 00:32:10,847 without drugs. 647 00:32:10,889 --> 00:32:12,682 (leaves rustling) 648 00:32:12,724 --> 00:32:14,392 I think we really enjoyed it. 649 00:32:16,061 --> 00:32:18,980 - (splashing) - (indistinct chatter) 650 00:32:19,064 --> 00:32:20,774 Judi: When you hear about communes 651 00:32:20,857 --> 00:32:22,484 and social experiments, 652 00:32:22,567 --> 00:32:25,945 you hear about, you know, a lot of free-floating sex. 653 00:32:26,029 --> 00:32:27,947 (birds chirping) 654 00:32:28,031 --> 00:32:30,325 That didn't happen at all at Synanon. 655 00:32:32,285 --> 00:32:35,497 People were not expected to just flit from one relationship 656 00:32:35,580 --> 00:32:38,291 to another. That was frowned upon. 657 00:32:39,668 --> 00:32:42,921 Mike: In Synanon, if you had a girlfriend, 658 00:32:42,962 --> 00:32:44,589 you couldn't shack up. 659 00:32:44,673 --> 00:32:46,424 You couldn't live together. 660 00:32:47,342 --> 00:32:48,718 Only until you were married. 661 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,887 If you wanted to have sex, 662 00:32:50,929 --> 00:32:53,723 they had a special place called the Guest Room. 663 00:32:53,765 --> 00:32:57,435 And it had a book, and you had to make an appointment. (laughs) 664 00:32:57,519 --> 00:32:59,604 ♪♪ 665 00:32:59,688 --> 00:33:02,482 Elena: One of my jobs when I-I first came in 666 00:33:02,565 --> 00:33:05,777 was somebody gave me the Guest Room book, 667 00:33:05,860 --> 00:33:08,071 and couples would have to come to me 668 00:33:08,113 --> 00:33:10,115 to book the Guest Room. 669 00:33:10,156 --> 00:33:12,325 And it would be a lovely room. 670 00:33:12,409 --> 00:33:15,286 Usually, the woman would go and set it up 671 00:33:15,328 --> 00:33:18,581 with pretty sheets and flowers and candles 672 00:33:18,623 --> 00:33:20,959 and incense and music, 673 00:33:21,042 --> 00:33:22,919 and you would have it for the night. 674 00:33:22,961 --> 00:33:25,213 And you'd be walking down the hallway, 675 00:33:25,296 --> 00:33:27,257 and everybody would be seeing you walking down and says, 676 00:33:27,298 --> 00:33:29,300 "Oh, I know where they're headed," you know. 677 00:33:29,342 --> 00:33:31,678 Mortified, absolutely mortified. 678 00:33:31,761 --> 00:33:33,388 ♪♪ 679 00:33:34,472 --> 00:33:37,225 Elena: At one time, people were encouraged 680 00:33:37,308 --> 00:33:40,228 to have sex as much as possible. 681 00:33:40,311 --> 00:33:43,189 And literally, there was a chart, 682 00:33:43,273 --> 00:33:46,818 like in an organization that is marking people's sales. 683 00:33:46,860 --> 00:33:50,947 Every time the couple had sex, they put a star on the chart. 684 00:33:50,989 --> 00:33:53,658 ♪♪ 685 00:33:57,829 --> 00:34:01,666 Jady: At Synanon, there was so much beauty and love 686 00:34:01,708 --> 00:34:05,628 and learning and relationships being built. 687 00:34:06,171 --> 00:34:09,799 And my dad and Betty, they were a model. 688 00:34:11,217 --> 00:34:14,054 He loved her, and she loved him. 689 00:34:14,637 --> 00:34:18,308 Synanon was totally woven into their love 690 00:34:18,350 --> 00:34:20,810 and their relationship because they were this team. 691 00:34:20,851 --> 00:34:23,605 - (gentle music playing) - (inaudible) 692 00:34:39,954 --> 00:34:41,581 ♪♪ 693 00:34:43,083 --> 00:34:46,127 Rod: Betty was deeply grounded. 694 00:34:46,210 --> 00:34:48,213 Chuck is one of those kinds of people 695 00:34:48,254 --> 00:34:50,924 who have enormous energy, but is very unstable. 696 00:34:51,007 --> 00:34:52,801 Betty was the opposite. 697 00:34:53,176 --> 00:34:54,928 He was the businessman, 698 00:34:55,011 --> 00:34:56,721 the hard hitter and everything like that. 699 00:34:56,804 --> 00:34:58,890 Chuck: I'm not talking about anything else! I'm not... 700 00:34:58,932 --> 00:35:02,644 Ron: If she thought Chuck was a little over the board 701 00:35:02,727 --> 00:35:05,480 in a Synanon Game, saying something to somebody, 702 00:35:05,563 --> 00:35:07,148 'cause he had a lot of power, 703 00:35:07,190 --> 00:35:10,985 she'd go around the next day and pick up the person, 704 00:35:11,069 --> 00:35:12,570 take 'em out to lunch 705 00:35:12,654 --> 00:35:14,739 and bring 'em back into the family. 706 00:35:14,823 --> 00:35:16,741 (quiet chatter) 707 00:35:16,825 --> 00:35:18,868 ♪♪ 708 00:35:18,952 --> 00:35:21,246 Betty Dederich: My job has always been 709 00:35:21,287 --> 00:35:23,623 one of an integrating force, I think. 710 00:35:23,707 --> 00:35:24,874 (inaudible) 711 00:35:24,916 --> 00:35:28,712 And I would like to somehow use the power invested in me, 712 00:35:28,753 --> 00:35:32,924 backed up against the Chuck Dederich maleness, 713 00:35:32,966 --> 00:35:35,427 to meld Synanon together... 714 00:35:35,510 --> 00:35:36,594 (inaudible) 715 00:35:36,678 --> 00:35:39,514 ...to keep an idea and a principle alive. 716 00:35:44,019 --> 00:35:47,272 - (applause) - (crowd cheering) 717 00:35:49,399 --> 00:35:52,235 Elena: Betty orchestrated group marriages, 718 00:35:53,153 --> 00:35:55,405 meaning that we all got married at the same time. 719 00:35:55,780 --> 00:35:58,950 (funky music playing) 720 00:35:58,992 --> 00:36:01,453 (inaudible) 721 00:36:06,458 --> 00:36:09,586 She orchestrated it like a theatrical event. 722 00:36:10,295 --> 00:36:12,547 One had a ranch theme. 723 00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:15,300 What we have out here today are a little more than 2,000 people, 724 00:36:15,342 --> 00:36:17,594 150 of them decided to get married, 725 00:36:17,635 --> 00:36:19,888 and the story is the fact that the community decided 726 00:36:19,971 --> 00:36:22,474 to make this a people event, a community event. 727 00:36:22,557 --> 00:36:24,851 (meat sizzling) 728 00:36:27,312 --> 00:36:30,357 Officiant: Perhaps what we are signifying here today 729 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,651 is really the death of the nuclear marriage, 730 00:36:33,735 --> 00:36:37,530 and the real affirmation of the kind of marriage 731 00:36:38,323 --> 00:36:42,452 which will bring to you far more meaning, and beauty. 732 00:36:42,494 --> 00:36:43,828 (applause) 733 00:36:43,912 --> 00:36:48,041 Elena: The idea is to celebrate our marriage to each other, 734 00:36:48,124 --> 00:36:50,126 our marriage to the community, 735 00:36:50,168 --> 00:36:52,671 and just celebrating commitment. 736 00:36:52,754 --> 00:36:53,838 (applause) 737 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,341 I thought it was beautiful. 738 00:36:57,717 --> 00:37:00,679 - (waves crashing) - (seagulls cawing) 739 00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:03,973 ("Oh, What A Feeling" by Crowbar playing) 740 00:37:07,268 --> 00:37:10,689 ♪♪ 741 00:37:10,772 --> 00:37:13,692 (applause) 742 00:37:14,734 --> 00:37:18,029 ♪ Oh ♪ 743 00:37:18,071 --> 00:37:20,699 ♪ What a feeling ♪ 744 00:37:21,866 --> 00:37:23,868 - ♪ What a life ♪ - Mike: At that point, 745 00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:27,997 Synanon was a golden child of the world. 746 00:37:28,039 --> 00:37:31,042 Here's this group, no violence, 747 00:37:31,126 --> 00:37:33,503 no drugs, no smoking, 748 00:37:33,545 --> 00:37:37,215 living a good, healthy lifestyle. 749 00:37:37,298 --> 00:37:38,967 More and more Lifestylers moved in. 750 00:37:39,050 --> 00:37:40,635 ♪ We got the feeling ♪ 751 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,554 You know, they gave a lot to Synanon. 752 00:37:42,637 --> 00:37:45,390 They gave their businesses, their skills. 753 00:37:45,473 --> 00:37:48,393 We had TV crews from all over the world 754 00:37:48,476 --> 00:37:50,895 coming to study what we were doing. 755 00:37:51,813 --> 00:37:54,816 (speaking French) 756 00:37:58,695 --> 00:38:01,406 ♪ Oh, what a feeling ♪ 757 00:38:11,124 --> 00:38:12,625 ♪ Ba... ♪ 758 00:38:12,709 --> 00:38:16,379 Mike: You know, we lived in this little bubble of Synanon, 759 00:38:16,421 --> 00:38:20,633 but it just seemed like the media loved the place. 760 00:38:20,717 --> 00:38:23,386 Elena: What a great place. What great people. 761 00:38:23,428 --> 00:38:25,513 What good hearts. 762 00:38:25,597 --> 00:38:27,599 We were the darling of the media, 763 00:38:27,682 --> 00:38:29,726 and then, oops. They hate us. 764 00:38:29,768 --> 00:38:31,102 (song stops) 765 00:38:31,186 --> 00:38:34,272 Ron: The "San Francisco Examiner" came out with an article. 766 00:38:34,314 --> 00:38:37,859 "Synanon, 'Racket Of the Century.'" 767 00:38:38,610 --> 00:38:41,821 (somber music playing) 768 00:38:48,078 --> 00:38:51,414 The "Examiner" had written, you know, a terrible article. 769 00:38:51,456 --> 00:38:53,792 It was libelous because it wasn't true. 770 00:38:56,252 --> 00:38:58,296 Phil Bourdette: You know, it hurt Chuck. 771 00:38:58,380 --> 00:39:01,466 His feelings, that these terrible things 772 00:39:01,508 --> 00:39:03,593 were being said about him and his... 773 00:39:03,635 --> 00:39:05,845 the organization that he started. 774 00:39:13,645 --> 00:39:15,814 You think about a narcissist, 775 00:39:15,855 --> 00:39:18,983 you think about somebody who has that kind of power 776 00:39:19,025 --> 00:39:21,611 and people love him so much. 777 00:39:21,986 --> 00:39:23,613 No one had questioned him for years 778 00:39:23,655 --> 00:39:25,990 and years and years and years. 779 00:39:26,074 --> 00:39:29,327 And then all of a sudden, there's a story that says 780 00:39:29,411 --> 00:39:32,038 you're not what you say you are. 781 00:39:32,122 --> 00:39:34,165 He got pissed off. 782 00:39:34,207 --> 00:39:36,167 ♪♪ 783 00:39:36,209 --> 00:39:38,586 Phil Bourdette: We all had our various jobs to do. 784 00:39:38,670 --> 00:39:41,047 Mine was in, in the legal stuff. 785 00:39:41,131 --> 00:39:43,341 You know, I had an obligation 786 00:39:43,425 --> 00:39:47,929 as a lawyer to pursue them. 787 00:39:48,013 --> 00:39:50,682 Judi: The whole concept in the "San Francisco Examiner" story 788 00:39:50,765 --> 00:39:53,727 was we were not helping drug addicts. 789 00:39:53,810 --> 00:39:56,021 We were not doing anything good. 790 00:40:00,734 --> 00:40:02,944 But we felt like we were doing good things. 791 00:40:03,028 --> 00:40:04,487 (breeze blowing) 792 00:40:04,529 --> 00:40:07,198 We were helping people get off drugs and alcohol. 793 00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:09,034 We were donating our extra food. 794 00:40:09,075 --> 00:40:11,411 We were, you know, doing whatever we could, really, 795 00:40:11,494 --> 00:40:13,705 to help the community at large. 796 00:40:14,622 --> 00:40:17,584 Chuck decided that we needed to file a libel case 797 00:40:17,667 --> 00:40:19,878 against the "San Francisco Examiner." 798 00:40:22,213 --> 00:40:24,049 Reporter: The "San Francisco Examiner" was accused 799 00:40:24,090 --> 00:40:27,218 of maliciously defaming Synanon by stating 800 00:40:27,302 --> 00:40:29,387 or insinuating that Synanon obtained 801 00:40:29,429 --> 00:40:31,431 millions of dollars under false pretenses, 802 00:40:31,514 --> 00:40:33,558 utilized false accounting, 803 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,226 provided a zombie-like existence 804 00:40:35,310 --> 00:40:38,480 for fugitives from reality, and was no longer engaged 805 00:40:38,563 --> 00:40:40,648 in drug addict rehabilitation. 806 00:40:40,732 --> 00:40:43,902 (somber music playing) 807 00:40:43,943 --> 00:40:46,196 Phil Bourdette: We filed our lawsuit. 808 00:40:46,237 --> 00:40:48,948 The Hearst Corporation, who owned the "Examiner," 809 00:40:49,032 --> 00:40:51,701 had two or three law firms working on the case, 810 00:40:51,743 --> 00:40:55,580 and we were doing all of our stuff in house. 811 00:40:55,622 --> 00:40:59,834 They started their own law school in Synanon. 812 00:41:00,335 --> 00:41:01,878 They needed lawyers. (laughs) 813 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,172 Phil Bourdette: The law office took off, 814 00:41:04,255 --> 00:41:05,590 growing in size. 815 00:41:05,674 --> 00:41:08,093 This is the entire legal department. 816 00:41:08,176 --> 00:41:11,096 I am right here. 817 00:41:12,138 --> 00:41:14,140 I was a legal secretary there. 818 00:41:14,224 --> 00:41:16,601 You felt like you were working toward this common goal, 819 00:41:16,643 --> 00:41:18,353 and, you know... 820 00:41:18,436 --> 00:41:20,939 (sighs) It was kind of exhilarating. 821 00:41:22,857 --> 00:41:25,068 That case was settled for $600,000, 822 00:41:25,110 --> 00:41:26,778 which was, at that time, 823 00:41:26,861 --> 00:41:29,447 the largest libel settlement, I think, in history, 824 00:41:29,531 --> 00:41:31,783 It made the "Guinness Book of World Records." 825 00:41:33,618 --> 00:41:37,163 Chuck took half the money for himself, $300,000, 826 00:41:37,247 --> 00:41:39,332 and he took the 30 people 827 00:41:39,416 --> 00:41:42,210 who had been in Synanon the longest, 828 00:41:42,669 --> 00:41:45,088 and gave them each $10,000. 829 00:41:45,130 --> 00:41:46,923 (tense music playing) 830 00:41:46,965 --> 00:41:50,719 Chuck: We received a windfall, you might say, 831 00:41:50,802 --> 00:41:54,806 owing to the fantastic efforts 832 00:41:54,848 --> 00:41:57,726 of the legal department and a couple of sales tricks 833 00:41:57,809 --> 00:42:00,520 that I threw in at the last minute. 834 00:42:01,354 --> 00:42:04,607 I'm a good business executive. 835 00:42:06,860 --> 00:42:09,362 Phil Bourdette: Unfortunately, while the "Examiner" case 836 00:42:09,446 --> 00:42:12,615 settled satisfactorily for us, 837 00:42:12,657 --> 00:42:15,368 the amount of negative publicity we got 838 00:42:15,452 --> 00:42:17,245 was just astronomical. 839 00:42:17,328 --> 00:42:20,457 Later on our news, I'll have a close-up look at Synanon, 840 00:42:20,498 --> 00:42:22,917 the reports of changes within the organization 841 00:42:23,001 --> 00:42:26,004 that have caused new controversy. 842 00:42:26,087 --> 00:42:27,964 You know, it put us in a bad light. 843 00:42:30,925 --> 00:42:34,304 But, you know, the libel cases 844 00:42:34,346 --> 00:42:37,349 were a potential revenue stream for us. 845 00:42:39,017 --> 00:42:42,604 Chuck, I think he felt, "Well, 846 00:42:42,687 --> 00:42:46,566 if this is what happens, then bring it on." 847 00:42:46,649 --> 00:42:51,029 Phil Bourdette: We started filing a bunch of libel and slander lawsuits. 848 00:42:52,030 --> 00:42:53,698 Dan Garrett: So, it wouldn't be bad. 849 00:42:53,782 --> 00:42:55,658 Chuck: You think there's good money in libel? 850 00:42:55,700 --> 00:42:57,285 Dan: There could be good money in libel. 851 00:42:57,369 --> 00:42:59,954 Chuck: We might have a good thing going for us. 852 00:43:00,038 --> 00:43:03,875 Who's next? Step right up, boys. Who's next? 853 00:43:07,629 --> 00:43:11,007 Judi: One of the things I hated about Synanon at that time 854 00:43:11,049 --> 00:43:16,012 was its preoccupation with money and wealth. 855 00:43:16,888 --> 00:43:21,601 Chuck, in particular, began to amass a lot of wealth. 856 00:43:21,685 --> 00:43:22,894 And he was pretty open about it. 857 00:43:22,977 --> 00:43:24,396 He didn't try to hide it. 858 00:43:24,437 --> 00:43:28,066 (helicopter whirring) 859 00:43:30,443 --> 00:43:33,863 Chuck: I like to be rich. All Americans like to be rich. 860 00:43:33,905 --> 00:43:36,574 ♪♪ 861 00:43:36,658 --> 00:43:38,743 We've had some rich people 862 00:43:38,785 --> 00:43:40,745 living in Synanon, 863 00:43:40,829 --> 00:43:45,083 who have given large amounts of money to Synanon. 864 00:43:47,127 --> 00:43:49,546 Companies have given 865 00:43:49,587 --> 00:43:52,424 millions and millions of dollars' worth 866 00:43:52,507 --> 00:43:55,593 of goods and services. 867 00:43:55,635 --> 00:43:57,470 - (tape player whirring) - And then we made 868 00:43:57,554 --> 00:43:59,889 $2.5 million... 869 00:43:59,931 --> 00:44:04,769 (over loudspeaker) net profit on our AdGap sales. 870 00:44:06,062 --> 00:44:08,898 We are in the people business. 871 00:44:11,067 --> 00:44:14,529 I'm trying American business methods 872 00:44:14,612 --> 00:44:17,532 to do something about social problems. 873 00:44:17,615 --> 00:44:20,618 (quiet warehouse chatter) 874 00:44:20,660 --> 00:44:22,704 And I'm going to be paid 875 00:44:22,787 --> 00:44:25,915 in a way that is commensurate with my abilities 876 00:44:25,957 --> 00:44:29,127 as a business executive. 877 00:44:29,210 --> 00:44:31,796 ♪♪ 878 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,382 We went from the power of poverty, which was sort of 879 00:44:34,466 --> 00:44:36,593 Synanon's ethic, 880 00:44:36,634 --> 00:44:39,554 to much more of an emphasis on wealth. 881 00:44:39,888 --> 00:44:41,598 Newscaster: Like many successful corporations, 882 00:44:41,639 --> 00:44:43,350 it has its own airplanes and boats 883 00:44:43,433 --> 00:44:45,852 and thousands of vehicles. 884 00:44:45,935 --> 00:44:48,063 So, this was kind of a flip. 885 00:44:48,521 --> 00:44:51,775 You're talking about this enormous organization, 886 00:44:51,816 --> 00:44:54,569 with a lot of Lifestylers who, 887 00:44:54,652 --> 00:44:56,237 from the outside, look like, 888 00:44:56,321 --> 00:44:59,491 "Well, this is a pretty cushy deal for a lot of people." 889 00:45:00,492 --> 00:45:03,661 And at the same time, our tax exempt certificate 890 00:45:03,745 --> 00:45:07,123 is based on us being a social service agency, 891 00:45:07,165 --> 00:45:12,379 and we're really not getting very many drug addicts anymore. 892 00:45:12,462 --> 00:45:16,925 There was more people saying, "We need to inspect you." 893 00:45:17,926 --> 00:45:22,764 That led to another one of Chuck's wonderful edicts. 894 00:45:24,516 --> 00:45:26,226 Chuck: We do things in... 895 00:45:27,477 --> 00:45:29,354 in Synanon, we do them together. 896 00:45:29,437 --> 00:45:31,106 We do them for a purpose. 897 00:45:31,189 --> 00:45:34,943 We do them because they make us feel good, 898 00:45:35,026 --> 00:45:38,238 because they make it possible for us more fully 899 00:45:39,114 --> 00:45:41,241 to appreciate the gift of life. 900 00:45:41,324 --> 00:45:44,369 (tense music playing) 901 00:45:44,411 --> 00:45:46,454 Everyone in Synanon 902 00:45:47,455 --> 00:45:50,208 must participate 903 00:45:50,250 --> 00:45:52,293 in the establishment 904 00:45:54,087 --> 00:45:55,171 of a church. 905 00:45:57,882 --> 00:46:00,301 Ron: Chuck, I believe, truly believed 906 00:46:00,385 --> 00:46:01,803 it was a religion. 907 00:46:01,886 --> 00:46:05,015 And he said, "Listen, if you're a Catholic, 908 00:46:05,056 --> 00:46:07,475 "you're always a Catholic. I was raised as a Catholic, 909 00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:09,686 "I'm a Catholic. End of story. 910 00:46:09,728 --> 00:46:12,105 "If you're a Jew, you're always a Jew. 911 00:46:12,188 --> 00:46:15,859 "Synanon is an add-on religion. 912 00:46:15,900 --> 00:46:18,987 "Synanon adds on to whatever your beliefs are, 913 00:46:19,070 --> 00:46:22,490 "and whatever your religion is, and helps you... 914 00:46:23,033 --> 00:46:26,953 move towards dealing with the world we live in today." 915 00:46:27,037 --> 00:46:30,874 (applause, cheering) 916 00:46:32,083 --> 00:46:35,003 Ours will be a talking church. 917 00:46:35,378 --> 00:46:40,300 It will come out of the Synanon Game. 918 00:46:40,383 --> 00:46:43,970 Stews. Reaches. Searches. 919 00:46:44,929 --> 00:46:47,432 I think we should talk, 920 00:46:47,515 --> 00:46:49,267 and we should exchange ideas, 921 00:46:49,351 --> 00:46:51,978 and I think that our... 922 00:46:52,771 --> 00:46:55,774 our church will happen. 923 00:46:55,857 --> 00:46:57,734 Phil Bourdette: We notified the IRS, 924 00:46:57,776 --> 00:47:00,695 and we started filing papers with the IRS, 925 00:47:00,779 --> 00:47:03,073 saying we were a religion. 926 00:47:03,114 --> 00:47:07,202 My perspective on it, and I think a lot of people... 927 00:47:08,286 --> 00:47:10,955 share this is that it was a total scam. 928 00:47:10,997 --> 00:47:14,501 I think that, uh, calling it a religion 929 00:47:14,584 --> 00:47:18,838 just meant that you would, you would retain a status, 930 00:47:18,922 --> 00:47:20,882 uh, as a 501(c)(3) 931 00:47:20,965 --> 00:47:24,135 to avoid regulation. 932 00:47:24,177 --> 00:47:26,429 Synanon just really couldn't survive 933 00:47:26,471 --> 00:47:29,557 in the way that it was configured at that point 934 00:47:29,641 --> 00:47:31,559 without being able 935 00:47:31,643 --> 00:47:33,395 to have donations 936 00:47:33,478 --> 00:47:34,896 both of goods, 937 00:47:34,979 --> 00:47:37,232 services, and money. 938 00:47:37,315 --> 00:47:40,694 Jady: You know, were we worthy of a tax exempt certificate 939 00:47:40,777 --> 00:47:42,821 for claiming that we were a religion? 940 00:47:42,862 --> 00:47:44,698 I guess people could argue that we were. 941 00:47:44,781 --> 00:47:47,492 In my heart, I didn't feel that we were. 942 00:47:47,575 --> 00:47:49,077 (applause, cheering) 943 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,996 I had a lot of conflict about that. 944 00:47:53,456 --> 00:47:56,668 But my dad was running the show. 945 00:47:56,751 --> 00:47:58,128 There was just never any question 946 00:47:58,169 --> 00:48:01,006 that when he wanted to exert control, 947 00:48:01,089 --> 00:48:02,340 he would exert it. 948 00:48:02,424 --> 00:48:05,677 (waves splashing) 949 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,180 And then that, you know, trickled down to the kids. 950 00:48:10,348 --> 00:48:12,726 (seesaw creaking) 951 00:48:12,809 --> 00:48:15,687 Josh Silvers: When my family moved into Synanon, 952 00:48:15,729 --> 00:48:17,355 we lived in Santa Monica. 953 00:48:17,397 --> 00:48:19,691 It was kinda nice, you know? (laughs) 954 00:48:19,733 --> 00:48:23,111 Sunshine and playing. 955 00:48:25,530 --> 00:48:27,741 My sister and I lived in the school. 956 00:48:27,824 --> 00:48:29,993 (child laughs) 957 00:48:30,035 --> 00:48:31,661 There was apartments, and there was, like, 958 00:48:31,703 --> 00:48:32,912 two sets of bunk beds 959 00:48:32,996 --> 00:48:34,873 in each bedroom. And I had my parents, 960 00:48:34,914 --> 00:48:37,292 so I had lots of love that I felt. 961 00:48:37,375 --> 00:48:40,837 But I also felt part of a community, 962 00:48:40,879 --> 00:48:43,506 and we knew everybody. Like... 963 00:48:43,590 --> 00:48:45,633 And they watched out for you. 964 00:48:46,718 --> 00:48:51,139 And then, they moved the kids all up to Tomales at the ranch. 965 00:48:52,349 --> 00:48:55,143 ♪♪ 966 00:48:55,226 --> 00:48:59,105 We were bussed up there, and it was a long ride. 967 00:48:59,189 --> 00:49:03,401 I mean, we left LA to Tomales, 968 00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:07,989 and I just remember being on a bus 969 00:49:08,073 --> 00:49:10,241 and-and feeling scared. 970 00:49:13,411 --> 00:49:15,622 When we moved, then I stopped seeing 971 00:49:15,705 --> 00:49:17,791 my dad and my mother 972 00:49:17,874 --> 00:49:20,085 the whole time we were in Tomales. 973 00:49:23,421 --> 00:49:27,717 Rod: The idea of Tomales was let's get the kids, 974 00:49:27,759 --> 00:49:31,221 uh, contained and educated, 975 00:49:31,262 --> 00:49:33,765 so that their parents can go to work 976 00:49:34,516 --> 00:49:37,018 and be more productive in terms of the community. 977 00:49:40,188 --> 00:49:42,107 All the kids were finally in one place. 978 00:49:42,190 --> 00:49:45,652 There were, there were about 200, maybe more. 979 00:49:47,654 --> 00:49:52,075 If Synanon needed the parent to be in a different facility 980 00:49:52,117 --> 00:49:54,035 to work from where their kid was in the school, 981 00:49:54,119 --> 00:49:56,162 that was okay. 982 00:49:56,246 --> 00:49:58,623 And the parent would just have to deal with it. 983 00:49:58,707 --> 00:50:01,710 (quiet office chatter) 984 00:50:01,793 --> 00:50:05,296 Synanon Member: Do you know why Karen's taking a picture of you? 985 00:50:05,338 --> 00:50:08,049 - Why? - Your moms and dads. 986 00:50:08,133 --> 00:50:11,094 They're gonna get to see what you look like. 987 00:50:11,136 --> 00:50:13,638 They wanna know if you're growing up to be really big. 988 00:50:13,722 --> 00:50:15,098 What do you think of that? 989 00:50:15,140 --> 00:50:18,727 (kids playing) 990 00:50:20,854 --> 00:50:23,273 Norm: My daughter stayed in 991 00:50:23,314 --> 00:50:24,816 the Santa Monica facility for a while, 992 00:50:24,899 --> 00:50:28,153 but was almost immediately, uh, 993 00:50:28,236 --> 00:50:30,822 shipped up to Tomales Bay with the other kids. 994 00:50:30,864 --> 00:50:33,408 I was concerned about that. 995 00:50:33,491 --> 00:50:37,954 Uh, my wife kinda talked me down from my concerns. 996 00:50:37,996 --> 00:50:40,248 Said that she knew people up there, 997 00:50:40,331 --> 00:50:42,000 and they were really good people, 998 00:50:42,083 --> 00:50:44,836 and that, uh, Kimberly would be well-cared for. 999 00:50:44,919 --> 00:50:46,796 And that turned out not to be the case. 1000 00:50:46,838 --> 00:50:49,299 - (crow cawing) - Teacher: Ready! 1001 00:50:49,924 --> 00:50:53,136 Josh: I don't ever remember people holding me 1002 00:50:53,178 --> 00:50:55,764 and-and-and like feeling there was a safe place 1003 00:50:55,847 --> 00:50:58,224 to, like, get a hug. 1004 00:50:58,725 --> 00:51:02,145 There wasn't like somebody that would put you to bed 1005 00:51:02,187 --> 00:51:05,273 and hold you or read to you. Like, to you. 1006 00:51:07,025 --> 00:51:10,987 There were probably some kids 1007 00:51:11,029 --> 00:51:14,449 who needed more and didn't, maybe, 1008 00:51:14,532 --> 00:51:18,078 get what they needed in terms of physical affection 1009 00:51:18,161 --> 00:51:21,956 or-or, you know, one-on-one or love. 1010 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,291 There was one kid. 1011 00:51:23,375 --> 00:51:26,753 He was just a baby, and he was crying all the time. 1012 00:51:26,836 --> 00:51:28,213 And they had to shut the door, 1013 00:51:28,254 --> 00:51:31,049 and then he would crawl towards the door 1014 00:51:31,132 --> 00:51:33,551 and put his fingers under, crying. (sniffles) 1015 00:51:33,635 --> 00:51:36,096 And every 20 minutes, someone would come and pick him up 1016 00:51:36,179 --> 00:51:38,390 and put him back into the center 1017 00:51:38,431 --> 00:51:41,726 so that he didn't keep coming to the door with his fingers under. 1018 00:51:41,810 --> 00:51:44,145 And, obviously, this is a child 1019 00:51:44,229 --> 00:51:46,106 who needed someone to pick him up 1020 00:51:46,189 --> 00:51:47,732 and just carry him. 1021 00:51:47,816 --> 00:51:50,276 (somber music playing) 1022 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,321 Chuck: Is it really true that... 1023 00:51:53,405 --> 00:51:56,324 that men are consumed with a great... 1024 00:51:56,408 --> 00:51:59,327 (over loudspeaker) paternal love for their children? 1025 00:51:59,411 --> 00:52:01,287 I've always thought that was nonsense. 1026 00:52:01,371 --> 00:52:03,540 I don't think that's true at all. 1027 00:52:03,581 --> 00:52:05,291 (kids chattering) 1028 00:52:05,375 --> 00:52:08,211 I think it's totally unnatural for a woman 1029 00:52:08,253 --> 00:52:10,463 to have much interest in her own children 1030 00:52:10,547 --> 00:52:13,717 over other children after the child is weaned. 1031 00:52:13,758 --> 00:52:15,844 (indistinct chatter) 1032 00:52:15,927 --> 00:52:19,055 There was this attitude from Chuck, right from the beginning, 1033 00:52:19,139 --> 00:52:20,932 that parents are basically bad for kids. (laughs) 1034 00:52:21,016 --> 00:52:25,061 You know, and that was his, uh, his primary theory 1035 00:52:25,103 --> 00:52:28,356 that, uh, parents are, uh... 1036 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,110 create all these neuroses for-for children. 1037 00:52:32,152 --> 00:52:35,363 I think Synanon went too far on this. 1038 00:52:36,448 --> 00:52:39,284 And I think a lot of these kids suffered. 1039 00:52:39,325 --> 00:52:41,703 Instead of having a balance between 1040 00:52:41,786 --> 00:52:45,040 this wonderful enhanced environment of caregivers 1041 00:52:45,123 --> 00:52:48,710 and maintaining the special relationship 1042 00:52:48,793 --> 00:52:50,420 with their parents, 1043 00:52:50,462 --> 00:52:53,548 the Synanon school turned too far toward 1044 00:52:53,631 --> 00:52:56,468 the parents feeling that they were not welcomed. 1045 00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:00,889 Rebekah: Very early on, very quickly, 1046 00:53:00,972 --> 00:53:03,725 it was a "we versus them," 1047 00:53:04,934 --> 00:53:08,480 um, environment. We were the kids, 1048 00:53:08,521 --> 00:53:11,316 they were the adults. And we, you know, 1049 00:53:11,399 --> 00:53:14,903 in the place of having parents 1050 00:53:14,986 --> 00:53:17,197 that we were bonding to, we bonded with each other. 1051 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,200 (quiet chatter) 1052 00:53:20,283 --> 00:53:23,453 We could look at one another and know, "Okay, 1053 00:53:23,495 --> 00:53:25,997 "they're screwed up. These people are weird. 1054 00:53:26,039 --> 00:53:28,083 You know, what are they doing?" 1055 00:53:28,166 --> 00:53:30,502 ♪ Gimme a head with hair ♪ 1056 00:53:30,543 --> 00:53:34,005 ♪ Long, beautiful hair, shining... ♪ 1057 00:53:34,089 --> 00:53:36,549 Newscaster: This is mass insanity coming to you live. 1058 00:53:36,633 --> 00:53:38,843 All the women have just shaved their heads. 1059 00:53:38,885 --> 00:53:41,179 Speaker: Given the fact that the whole culture 1060 00:53:41,221 --> 00:53:43,431 seems to hair crazy right now, 1061 00:53:43,515 --> 00:53:45,850 I suppose these guys are pioneers in their own way. 1062 00:53:45,934 --> 00:53:49,521 ♪ Hair... ♪ 1063 00:53:49,562 --> 00:53:51,648 ♪ Grow it, show it ♪ 1064 00:53:51,690 --> 00:53:53,983 ♪ Long as I can grow it ♪ 1065 00:53:54,025 --> 00:53:57,320 ♪ My hair! ♪ 1066 00:53:57,362 --> 00:54:00,573 Shaving heads started as a negative 1067 00:54:00,657 --> 00:54:01,908 for the men. 1068 00:54:01,991 --> 00:54:03,660 In the early days, 1069 00:54:03,702 --> 00:54:06,746 if you got in serious trouble, you might get your head shaved. 1070 00:54:06,830 --> 00:54:08,373 (quiet chatter) 1071 00:54:08,415 --> 00:54:10,625 Judi: One day, there was a women's Game 1072 00:54:10,709 --> 00:54:12,460 that was being broadcast over the Wire, 1073 00:54:12,544 --> 00:54:14,546 over the loudspeaker, to all the facilities. 1074 00:54:14,629 --> 00:54:17,257 Synanon Member: Well, you know she'll never do anything about it 1075 00:54:17,340 --> 00:54:18,675 because she just whines. 1076 00:54:18,717 --> 00:54:21,136 She won't take care of anything, and... 1077 00:54:21,219 --> 00:54:22,887 Judi: One of the women in the Game 1078 00:54:22,971 --> 00:54:25,807 was talking about a camera that she had acquired 1079 00:54:25,890 --> 00:54:28,560 and then she turned around and sold it. 1080 00:54:28,643 --> 00:54:30,562 Everybody came down on her really hard. 1081 00:54:30,645 --> 00:54:32,230 "You stole that. That was theft." 1082 00:54:33,189 --> 00:54:36,443 Mike: Chuck made it clear that if you were a man, 1083 00:54:36,526 --> 00:54:39,863 and you got caught doing this, 1084 00:54:39,904 --> 00:54:41,406 we'd shave your head. 1085 00:54:41,448 --> 00:54:43,908 She was a feminist, so she said, 1086 00:54:44,576 --> 00:54:46,578 "Damn right, I'll shave my head. Fine." 1087 00:54:46,619 --> 00:54:48,997 - (clippers buzzing) - (room chatter) 1088 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,583 Then, I think it was like wildfire, 1089 00:54:51,666 --> 00:54:54,419 and all of these women jumped up and decided 1090 00:54:54,502 --> 00:54:57,672 that they would shave their heads, too, in comradery. 1091 00:54:57,756 --> 00:55:00,759 ("Clap Your Hands and Stamp Your Feet" by Bonnie St. Claire playing) 1092 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,386 ♪♪ 1093 00:55:03,428 --> 00:55:05,055 Speaker 1: Mass bedlam in Tomales Bay. 1094 00:55:05,138 --> 00:55:06,848 All the women shaving their heads. 1095 00:55:06,931 --> 00:55:08,975 Speaker 2: I heard Betty shaved her head, Dorothy's head was shaved. 1096 00:55:09,059 --> 00:55:12,354 I'm talking about everybody shaved his head. 1097 00:55:12,437 --> 00:55:13,938 ♪ Well, clap your hands ♪ 1098 00:55:13,980 --> 00:55:16,149 - (clapping) - ♪ Mm ♪ 1099 00:55:16,232 --> 00:55:18,193 ♪ And stamp your feet ♪ 1100 00:55:18,276 --> 00:55:20,278 ♪♪ 1101 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:21,738 There were women at the sidelines, 1102 00:55:21,821 --> 00:55:22,614 who were sitting, going, 1103 00:55:22,989 --> 00:55:25,450 "I'm not gonna do this! I don't wanna do this." 1104 00:55:25,492 --> 00:55:28,119 And initially, not everybody did it. 1105 00:55:28,203 --> 00:55:31,456 ♪ Humalalalala, humalala ♪ 1106 00:55:31,539 --> 00:55:34,250 I had very long hair at the time, 1107 00:55:34,292 --> 00:55:37,420 and I did not wanna shave it all off. 1108 00:55:37,462 --> 00:55:40,965 So, I shaved my head, except for this long braid. 1109 00:55:41,007 --> 00:55:42,634 (laughs) 1110 00:55:42,717 --> 00:55:44,719 And then eventually, I got on board. 1111 00:55:44,761 --> 00:55:46,471 (clippers buzzing) 1112 00:55:46,554 --> 00:55:48,306 Mike: I believe Chuck was goading them on. 1113 00:55:48,390 --> 00:55:49,808 "Go shave your head." 1114 00:55:49,891 --> 00:55:52,644 They've got more clippers in Santa Monica 1115 00:55:52,686 --> 00:55:55,814 than we have up here, so there are already more women 1116 00:55:55,897 --> 00:55:58,608 - shaved down there than up here! - Synanon Members: No! 1117 00:55:58,650 --> 00:56:00,819 Member 1: We gotta get more women up here! 1118 00:56:00,860 --> 00:56:02,654 - Come on, let's go out! - Member 2: Go get 'em! 1119 00:56:02,737 --> 00:56:05,907 - (overlapping chatter) - Elena: I know it must sound crazy to you 1120 00:56:06,616 --> 00:56:10,245 but it was, it was fun, and it was... 1121 00:56:10,328 --> 00:56:11,329 There was music, 1122 00:56:11,413 --> 00:56:13,665 and I think there were snacks, too. 1123 00:56:13,748 --> 00:56:15,709 That always, that always got me. 1124 00:56:16,167 --> 00:56:17,794 Betty: The women, at last, 1125 00:56:17,836 --> 00:56:21,297 have reached some degree of freedom 1126 00:56:21,339 --> 00:56:23,967 and a total degree of equality in Synanon. 1127 00:56:24,009 --> 00:56:28,430 - Free at last! Free! - (cheering, applause) 1128 00:56:31,266 --> 00:56:33,393 Rebekah: The adults were very excited. 1129 00:56:33,476 --> 00:56:35,020 They were, you know, 1130 00:56:35,061 --> 00:56:37,397 kind of like in the throes of ecstasy practically. 1131 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,525 - (applause, cheering) - (soft music playing) 1132 00:56:40,608 --> 00:56:43,528 But, as a kid, it's just very different. 1133 00:56:45,071 --> 00:56:46,698 You had no choice. 1134 00:56:48,992 --> 00:56:51,536 Judi: After the initial explosion 1135 00:56:51,578 --> 00:56:53,538 of that one-time head shaving, 1136 00:56:53,580 --> 00:56:56,291 Chuck decided that this would be a good idea. 1137 00:56:56,374 --> 00:56:57,625 And that, in fact, 1138 00:56:57,709 --> 00:57:00,045 all members of Synanon would keep their heads shorn. 1139 00:57:02,464 --> 00:57:03,715 Rebekah: For me, as a child, 1140 00:57:03,798 --> 00:57:07,427 I would've given everything up just to have had hair. 1141 00:57:10,388 --> 00:57:13,892 We were really like zoo animals. 1142 00:57:13,975 --> 00:57:17,645 (laughs) And we would, you know, be stared at and... 1143 00:57:17,729 --> 00:57:19,564 Because we had bald heads. 1144 00:57:19,606 --> 00:57:22,275 So we looked, we looked like freaks. 1145 00:57:22,359 --> 00:57:23,985 ♪♪ 1146 00:57:29,407 --> 00:57:32,243 Josh: You have no say of what you do, 1147 00:57:32,285 --> 00:57:34,120 and how you do it, and when you do it 1148 00:57:34,204 --> 00:57:35,872 because you're a kid. 1149 00:57:36,748 --> 00:57:38,500 That's just how your life is. 1150 00:57:39,084 --> 00:57:43,046 But we really started to feel that changes were coming. 1151 00:57:44,964 --> 00:57:47,384 The wind was blowing in a cooler direction. 1152 00:57:47,425 --> 00:57:50,637 Instructor: Left! Left, right, left! 1153 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,391 Rod: What happened in those next few years, 1154 00:57:54,432 --> 00:57:58,353 Chuck systematically broke the philosophy, 1155 00:57:58,436 --> 00:58:00,647 the things that undergird, I think, 1156 00:58:00,730 --> 00:58:03,608 the healthy community that I had seen. 1157 00:58:03,858 --> 00:58:06,695 Chuck: That menopausal goddamn fool. 1158 00:58:06,778 --> 00:58:08,780 If Betty hadn't let her out of the room, 1159 00:58:08,822 --> 00:58:11,533 the next day, I was gonna throw her out the window. 1160 00:58:11,616 --> 00:58:15,537 Rod: And I think that was, again, his thing. 1161 00:58:15,620 --> 00:58:16,913 (inaudible) 1162 00:58:17,414 --> 00:58:19,124 "I'm gonna do it 'cause I can do it." 1163 00:58:19,207 --> 00:58:22,794 (applause, cheering) 1164 00:58:22,877 --> 00:58:23,837 Hey! 1165 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,714 Jady: My dad changed the culture. 1166 00:58:25,797 --> 00:58:27,799 You know, it wasn't enough for him. 1167 00:58:27,882 --> 00:58:29,759 (inaudible) 1168 00:58:29,801 --> 00:58:32,053 But there was no plan. 1169 00:58:33,638 --> 00:58:37,767 I think it was an organic process, like always. 1170 00:58:39,352 --> 00:58:42,480 There were cardinal rules on which Synanon was founded. 1171 00:58:42,522 --> 00:58:44,816 (tense music playing) 1172 00:58:44,858 --> 00:58:47,318 And those were solid until they weren't. 1173 00:58:49,070 --> 00:58:50,613 (police radio chatter) 1174 00:58:50,655 --> 00:58:53,491 And that was the beginning of the end. 1175 00:58:53,575 --> 00:58:56,828 (tense music fading out) 1176 00:58:58,455 --> 00:59:01,666 (solemn music playing) 1177 00:59:50,048 --> 00:59:52,050 (music fades out) 88473

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