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[soft music]
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* *
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- Wrestling is not
a love story.
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It's much more.
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* *
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It's hope.
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* *
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An excuse to be a kid again.
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* *
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And nothing matters except
the moment we are in.
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* *
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A great man once said that.
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That man is my brother,
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Windham Rotunda.
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[cheers and applause]
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But you know him
as Bray Wyatt.
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[dramatic music]
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Tell me this wasn't
meant to be.
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* *
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He knew where he was going
from the beginning.
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* *
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- There's something going on.
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- Is that--you know who it is.
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[cheers, laughter]
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It's Bray Wyatt!
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* *
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- Bray Wyatt was chaos.
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The ultimate villain.
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- I am Bray Wyatt,
the new face of fear.
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- He had the charisma that
so many guys don't have.
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- Can you feel that?
[laughs]
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- That "it" quality.
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- You hold 100,000 people
in the palm of your hand.
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- You've got it all.
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* *
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- When it comes to creativity,
Windham had no peers.
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- Can I see
what that looks like?
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- He was not scared
to push the limits.
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- Yowie-wowie!
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- He was a genius.
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- Dreaming of all these ideas,
it's such a cool feeling.
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- He changed a whole industry.
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- [laughs]
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- He put his heart and soul
out on his sleeve.
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It's one of the geniuses
of him, but it's also
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one of the things that was
difficult to work with him on.
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- When you hit creative
roadblocks, you reform.
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And that's what he did.
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* *
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- It's time to rewrite
my own story.
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[dramatic music]
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The ridiculously hard times
are what strengthened me.
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When I was weak, when I was
vulnerable, when I was down,
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you were there.
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[cheers and applause]
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This is the best
I've ever felt.
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* *
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- He was bigger than life,
and he was loved by millions.
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- He had so much more
that he wanted to do.
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- I want to leave a legacy
behind for everyone
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that ever loved me.
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* *
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- * He's got the whole world
in his hands *
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- Creativity.
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It comes from many places
and takes many shapes.
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The place is
Western Pennsylvania.
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The shape is a character
forever known as Bray Wyatt.
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[soft music]
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* *
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- Jason.
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- What's going on, buddy?
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* *
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My name is Jason Baker.
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I'm a special makeup effects
artist and film director.
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- Wild looking at all this.
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- I know.
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I had the honor of creating
most of Windham's costumes
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and all of his insane ideas.
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- You look and see
all the things he's done
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and accomplished.
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- I wish he was here
to share it with us.
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- Now it's up to us
to give him something
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he deserves that will
let him live on forever.
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We owe him something big.
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- It's going to be wild.
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- Something to truly
honor his legacy.
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[tense music]
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* *
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- I grew up in a little town
called Brooksville, Florida.
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Small little town.
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You know, everybody knows
your business.
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Everybody knows who you are.
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Everybody knew who my family
was growing up, obviously.
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- Come on and let's fight.
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- Blackjack Mulligan
is my grandfather.
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- Blackjack Mulligan.
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What a monster.
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- My uncles are Barry
and Kendall Windham.
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- Barry Windham.
Kendall Windham.
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Two second-generation
wrestlers.
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- And my father is
Mike Rotunda.
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- Outstanding athlete
out of Syracuse.
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A tremendous wrestler.
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- I was wrestling
down in Florida,
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and Dusty Rhodes was
the booker.
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And he put Barry and I
as a tag team together.
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- Barry Windham
joining Mike Rotunda.
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- His sister Stephanie
came down to visit.
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- My sister had come
to stay with me.
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Mike, of course, being my
best friend, was always over.
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You know, I noticed that
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they were kind of
eyeballing each other.
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- I wasn't supposed to really
be around the wrestlers.
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Said I wasn't interested.
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And then I married him
six months later.
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And we've been married
40 years.
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- Over the next few years,
the couple
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traveled the world together
as Mike became a champion.
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- Over the hip.
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Shoulders down.
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Yes, indeed!
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We have new
tag team champions,
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Barry Windham, Mike Rotunda.
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- And competed in
the first-ever WrestleMania
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in New York City.
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- Rotunda now gets
the Sheik up.
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Well-executed suplex.
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- Eventually,
they settled in Brooksville.
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And on May 23, 1987,
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Windham Lawrence Rotunda
was born.
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- I was wrestling in
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Championship Wrestling
of Florida,
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and I wrestled Ric Flair
that night.
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So I get home,
nobody's at the house.
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My mother-in-law and Steph
were at the hospital.
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They ended up doing
an emergency C-section
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because Windham was a big kid.
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- He was almost 10 pounds.
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Windham was named
from the beginning
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'cause it's my maiden name.
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He was like
the little Gerber baby.
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Bright, blue eyes and smiley
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and curly little blonde
ringlets of hair.
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He was beautiful.
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When he was a little bitty,
like, two and three,
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he would stand
in front of the TV,
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and he knew "Ghostbusters,"
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"Beetlejuice" line-for-line.
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- He would watch these movies,
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and he would voice
pretty much the whole movie
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at that young age.
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- I remember when he read
all the Goosebumps books.
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He was addicted to 'em.
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But he was just such
an imaginative,
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imaginative character,
and he was always
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the center of attention
wherever he went.
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[soft music]
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- Windham wouldn't be
an only child for long.
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When he was three years old,
he got a brother, Taylor.
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* *
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- Windham was always
somebody I looked up to.
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Most little brothers do
look up to a bigger brother.
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But Windham...
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I wanted to be just like him.
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- And three years later,
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he got a little sister too:
Mika.
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- Brothers are awesome,
and I had the two best.
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I have felt that way
my whole life.
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Windham and Taylor
were my protectors
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and they were my friends
and my confidants.
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- We were all really,
really close.
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But in our younger years,
me and Windham
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played practical jokes.
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We convinced her at one point
that there was
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an invisible man
living in her closet.
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Anytime she was about
to tell on us, we'd be like,
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do you want us to call on--hmm?
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- Those kids played hard
with each other.
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I remember them,
like, roughhousing
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in our living room.
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We were really close
to Mike and Stephanie
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and Windham and Taylor
growing up.
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Mike was one of my dad's
best friends.
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Those kids, they were vibrant.
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They, all three, have
so much personality.
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[cheers and applause]
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- As the Rotunda children
grew up, their father
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developed a new identity
in the ring.
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- My dad was IRS,
Irwin R. Schyster.
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- I told you tax cheats before,
everyone pays their taxes!
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No one will rest in peace
until all your taxes are paid.
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[crowd booing]
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- Even I shared the ring
with IRS.
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- Look at this!
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Yeah!
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- I remember seeing
young Bray Wyatt
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just hanging out back
watching his dad,
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just mesmerized, you know,
watching his dad stretch
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and work out in the ring.
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You know, you could tell
he wanted to be in the ring.
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- I remember
one time in particular,
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I saw my dad was in
a tag match with Ted DiBiase
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against The Nasty Boys.
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- Oh, God. Look at this.
Uh-oh.
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- Will it be the pit stop?
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- I wanna see this.
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- They put my dad
in the corner,
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and they stuck their armpits
in his face.
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And I remember being backstage
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and my mom having
to hold me back
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because I was a little
7-year-old kid
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and I was about to run
in this ring.
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That's where it started.
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I knew that I had
to get in there.
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I wanted to be
just like my dad.
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I wanted to be in the WWE.
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- By the early 2000s,
Windham used his size
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to excel in
high school sports.
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- Growing up, especially
if you're heavyset like I was
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when I was a kid,
you had to learn
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how to be tough
at a real young age.
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As soon as I was old enough,
any contact sport
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I could get my hands on,
I was into it.
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- He was a good
football player.
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Played both ways.
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Made all-star teams.
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- He really, really was
an unbelievable athlete.
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He ran a 4.8 40.
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And the strength he had
and the agility for the size
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that he had, just unbelievable.
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- Windham was an anomaly--
everything, but especially
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amateur wrestling
and high school.
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By the time it was time
for his match,
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the gym would quiet down.
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And when he would wrestle,
the whole gymnasium
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would just stop to watch
what he was doing.
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He was a draw at 17.
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- Windham won the heavyweight
wrestling state title
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and was all-state in football.
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In 2005, he graduated
and chose to continue
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playing football
3,000 miles away.
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- I went and played
junior college football
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at College of the Sequoias
in Visalia, California.
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- Windham excelled and was
named an All-American
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offensive lineman.
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Two years later,
he transferred to Division I
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Troy University in Alabama.
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- I think that's where
I really learned to be tough.
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You know, it pushed me
to the edge.
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To play in Division I
football ain't no joke.
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- Being a college athlete
was incredibly challenging.
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It's a full-time job.
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When you're coming up
in a family
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of professional athletes
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and you see this devotion,
you don't know anything
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other than to give
everything you've got.
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He dreamt of playing
for the Oakland Raiders.
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And like, that's where
he wanted to be,
261
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and that's what
he wanted to do.
262
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- While Windham worked
towards a future in the NFL,
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he often made the 6.5-hour
drive home to see his family
264
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in Brooksville.
265
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- I was 15, and I was
very self-conscious
266
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because I was really
overweight.
267
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And the only thing that
made it better was Windham.
268
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And I called him
and I told him,
269
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I'm the only freshman
on homecoming court.
270
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And I said, I know you're in
the middle of football season.
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It would mean everything
if you could just
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walk me down the field.
273
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He showed up with
a bouquet of flowers.
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And I was so scared.
275
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But when your big brother,
who's your hero,
276
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who's your favorite icon,
shows up
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just to walk you
down the field, it vanishes.
278
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- When I was a senior
in high school,
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I was going to
the state championships.
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And my brother was
a state champion.
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And I wanted to be
just like him.
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He wanted to come and see me.
283
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But he said, I'm only
going to come and see you
284
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in the finals because I know
you're going to make it
285
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to the finals and I know
you're going to win.
286
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And that's all I need to see.
287
00:13:08,121 --> 00:13:11,374
So long story short,
I went into the tournament
288
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and I suffered an injury
and I was unable to compete.
289
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And the only thing
running through my head
290
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was I let my brother down.
291
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* *
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Finally got home,
and Windham was already
293
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waiting in the driveway
294
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sitting on the back
of his tailgate.
295
00:13:25,930 --> 00:13:27,432
And before I even
made it to him,
296
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he made it to me
with a big hug.
297
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And...
298
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He whispered into my ear...
299
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"None of that shit matters."
300
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None of that shit matters.
301
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That's really who Windham was.
302
00:13:50,830 --> 00:13:54,209
It was the love
of his family and making sure
303
00:13:54,250 --> 00:13:58,963
I felt OK after
I felt like I let him down.
304
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That's what mattered to him.
305
00:14:02,217 --> 00:14:05,387
- By 2008,
Windham was relegated
306
00:14:05,428 --> 00:14:08,348
to a backup role on the Troy
University football team,
307
00:14:08,390 --> 00:14:12,769
and his playing time
was limited.
308
00:14:12,811 --> 00:14:15,939
- That was kind of a hard time
for him because, of course,
309
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his aspirations
were pro football.
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And it dawned on him that
that wasn't going to happen.
311
00:14:23,405 --> 00:14:26,449
- That same year,
his 18-year-old brother Taylor
312
00:14:26,491 --> 00:14:31,204
signed with WWE and joined
their developmental system.
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- I was having my first match,
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and Windham drove down
from Troy.
315
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I got done and went
and met him after.
316
00:14:38,753 --> 00:14:41,673
And he's like, "I'm not
going back to school.
317
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I want to do this with you."
318
00:14:44,134 --> 00:14:47,595
- That decision would change
the course of Windham's life.
319
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[tense music]
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* *
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00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:03,111
- In 2008, Windham walked away
322
00:15:03,153 --> 00:15:04,946
from the Troy University's
football team
323
00:15:04,988 --> 00:15:06,573
and joined his brother Taylor
324
00:15:06,614 --> 00:15:09,909
in WWE's developmental
system, FCW.
325
00:15:09,951 --> 00:15:12,245
all: FCW! FCW!
- Slow down, folks.
326
00:15:12,287 --> 00:15:14,497
- Windham came
from college football.
327
00:15:14,539 --> 00:15:17,625
And then kind of overnight,
was just with FCW.
328
00:15:17,667 --> 00:15:20,670
And yeah, everything
was new and everything
329
00:15:20,712 --> 00:15:22,714
was scary and exciting.
330
00:15:22,756 --> 00:15:24,466
But I think what
gave him comfort
331
00:15:24,507 --> 00:15:26,676
was that his brother was there.
332
00:15:26,718 --> 00:15:29,596
- He moved down to Tampa,
and we got a house together.
333
00:15:29,637 --> 00:15:32,015
And we loved it.
334
00:15:32,057 --> 00:15:35,018
It was one of my favorite
times of my life.
335
00:15:35,060 --> 00:15:37,103
We did everything together.
336
00:15:37,145 --> 00:15:38,271
We went to work together.
337
00:15:38,313 --> 00:15:39,647
We talked about work.
338
00:15:39,689 --> 00:15:42,067
And we ended up starting
to tag together.
339
00:15:42,108 --> 00:15:43,943
And we were
Bo and Duke Rotundo.
340
00:15:43,985 --> 00:15:47,197
And that was our life.
341
00:15:47,238 --> 00:15:48,740
- I was 16.
342
00:15:48,782 --> 00:15:50,158
I got my driver's license.
343
00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,826
And the first place
I ever drove
344
00:15:51,868 --> 00:15:55,955
was to the Brooksville armory
to watch my brothers.
345
00:15:55,997 --> 00:15:58,875
- From Brooksville, Florida,
346
00:15:58,917 --> 00:16:03,296
Bo and Duke Rotundo!
347
00:16:03,338 --> 00:16:05,465
[cheers and applause]
348
00:16:05,507 --> 00:16:07,592
- Proud papa. Proud mama.
349
00:16:07,634 --> 00:16:10,178
My parents were both
really proud of the boys.
350
00:16:10,220 --> 00:16:12,180
- They didn't get any
roads paved for them
351
00:16:12,222 --> 00:16:13,598
or silver spoon handed to them.
352
00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,351
They had to come in
like everybody else.
353
00:16:16,393 --> 00:16:18,353
- What an opportunity here
to see two
354
00:16:18,395 --> 00:16:20,480
homegrown guys, man,
right here.
355
00:16:20,522 --> 00:16:22,148
Duke and Bo, man,
this is going to be
356
00:16:22,190 --> 00:16:23,650
a really special outing
for them.
357
00:16:23,692 --> 00:16:25,694
Big ol' Duke just
a roughhouse.
358
00:16:25,735 --> 00:16:29,155
He's a little green still,
but he's got the get-go will.
359
00:16:31,408 --> 00:16:33,326
- This is a really,
really tough business.
360
00:16:33,368 --> 00:16:35,203
But to have someone
361
00:16:35,245 --> 00:16:37,664
that you can trust
with absolutely anything
362
00:16:37,706 --> 00:16:40,625
is unheard of in this business,
and I had that.
363
00:16:40,667 --> 00:16:43,128
You are looking at
the most explosive tag team
364
00:16:43,169 --> 00:16:47,257
in FCW, the Rotundo Brothers.
365
00:16:47,298 --> 00:16:50,260
- And it's high time that
we bring those titles back
366
00:16:50,301 --> 00:16:54,848
to their new rightful home,
Brooksville, Florida.
367
00:16:54,889 --> 00:16:58,768
- We have new
tag team champions,
368
00:16:58,810 --> 00:17:01,855
the Rotundos, Bo and Duke.
369
00:17:01,896 --> 00:17:04,190
- Right away,
the Rotundo Brothers
370
00:17:04,232 --> 00:17:07,318
impressed a WWE legend.
371
00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:09,779
- I had offered my gym
Hard Nocks South
372
00:17:09,821 --> 00:17:13,116
as the first developmental
strength territory.
373
00:17:13,158 --> 00:17:15,243
So I used to see Windham
all the time.
374
00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:17,829
We separated them into groups
375
00:17:17,871 --> 00:17:19,372
based on their
athletic ability,
376
00:17:19,414 --> 00:17:21,291
and Windham was in
the top group.
377
00:17:21,332 --> 00:17:23,126
But he was the only guy
that would have
378
00:17:23,168 --> 00:17:25,795
everyone laughing all the time.
379
00:17:25,837 --> 00:17:30,216
He would come up with sketches
in the gym, bring costumes.
380
00:17:30,258 --> 00:17:32,344
- It puts the lotion
on its skin,
381
00:17:32,385 --> 00:17:34,095
or else it gets the hose again.
382
00:17:34,137 --> 00:17:35,764
- Do you want to get
dipped in water?
383
00:17:35,805 --> 00:17:36,973
- Yeah.
384
00:17:37,015 --> 00:17:38,099
- You can't swim
with Saran wrap on.
385
00:17:38,141 --> 00:17:40,352
- Bad boys don't get headbands.
386
00:17:40,393 --> 00:17:42,103
- It's one of those things
you see on and be like,
387
00:17:42,145 --> 00:17:43,855
he's on to something.
388
00:17:43,897 --> 00:17:45,398
- Look into these eyes, boy.
389
00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,193
A demon lives
behind these eyes.
390
00:17:48,234 --> 00:17:51,196
A demon that you created.
391
00:17:51,237 --> 00:17:54,324
- I mean, you could go back
and find old tapes of Windham
392
00:17:54,366 --> 00:17:55,617
at promo class.
393
00:17:55,658 --> 00:17:57,285
You could take any one
of those characters
394
00:17:57,327 --> 00:17:59,746
and put them right on TV.
395
00:17:59,788 --> 00:18:02,457
- Windham's magnetic
personality and work ethic
396
00:18:02,499 --> 00:18:04,709
didn't go unnoticed.
397
00:18:04,751 --> 00:18:07,754
Within a year,
the 23-year-old would be
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00:18:07,796 --> 00:18:11,174
featured on a new show
called "NXT."
399
00:18:12,550 --> 00:18:15,011
- "NXT" was a game show
where, essentially,
400
00:18:15,053 --> 00:18:17,514
you had up-and-coming
wrestlers who would compete
401
00:18:17,555 --> 00:18:19,599
to be the next breakout star.
402
00:18:19,641 --> 00:18:21,685
And then we had a group
of what were termed to be
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00:18:21,726 --> 00:18:24,646
pros who were acting
as judges.
404
00:18:24,688 --> 00:18:27,982
- And Windham got a new name.
405
00:18:28,024 --> 00:18:30,610
- I don't believe Cody Rhodes
is that enthused
406
00:18:30,652 --> 00:18:34,280
about his rookie Husky Harris.
407
00:18:34,322 --> 00:18:36,157
- Well, he was called
Husky Harris.
408
00:18:36,199 --> 00:18:38,243
- I thought it was a little--
you know,
409
00:18:38,284 --> 00:18:41,413
it wasn't complimentary
by any means.
410
00:18:41,454 --> 00:18:43,748
- I know Windham really
didn't like the name.
411
00:18:43,790 --> 00:18:45,750
He felt it was poking fun
at his physique
412
00:18:45,792 --> 00:18:46,543
more than anything.
413
00:18:46,584 --> 00:18:47,877
- What can you say about
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00:18:47,919 --> 00:18:49,879
Husky Harris
that you can't see?
415
00:18:49,921 --> 00:18:51,047
- He's husky.
416
00:18:51,089 --> 00:18:52,424
- Come on, baby!
417
00:18:52,465 --> 00:18:54,759
- Husky Harris?
418
00:18:54,801 --> 00:18:56,219
I don't know, man.
419
00:18:56,261 --> 00:18:57,637
I can only imagine
how frustrated
420
00:18:57,679 --> 00:18:58,930
he must have been with that.
421
00:18:58,972 --> 00:19:01,182
I don't know if,
in my most creative hour,
422
00:19:01,224 --> 00:19:02,434
could I have made this work.
423
00:19:02,475 --> 00:19:04,352
- She wants me. Hmm.
424
00:19:07,689 --> 00:19:08,815
- Oh, God.
425
00:19:08,857 --> 00:19:10,191
- Terrible.
426
00:19:10,233 --> 00:19:12,861
When I look back
at the Husky Harris,
427
00:19:12,902 --> 00:19:15,864
I just see that sad
little boy.
428
00:19:15,905 --> 00:19:18,033
It was just a terrible,
terrible time.
429
00:19:18,074 --> 00:19:20,952
And it was a figment of
someone else's imagination
430
00:19:20,994 --> 00:19:23,580
that they tried
to push on a person.
431
00:19:23,621 --> 00:19:26,499
- I feel like he knew in
his heart that wasn't what
432
00:19:26,541 --> 00:19:28,543
his destiny was supposed to be.
433
00:19:28,585 --> 00:19:31,046
That Husky Harris character,
it allowed him to want more.
434
00:19:31,087 --> 00:19:33,131
It drove him to want more.
435
00:19:34,049 --> 00:19:36,384
- While Windham wanted
more professionally,
436
00:19:36,426 --> 00:19:39,596
personally, he was thriving.
437
00:19:39,637 --> 00:19:41,890
Windham had been dating
his girlfriend Samantha
438
00:19:41,931 --> 00:19:44,017
for three years.
439
00:19:44,059 --> 00:19:47,103
And on November 14, 2010,
440
00:19:47,145 --> 00:19:50,940
they welcomed
their first daughter, Cadyn.
441
00:19:52,233 --> 00:19:54,319
- He was on the European Tour.
442
00:19:54,361 --> 00:19:56,613
And it started getting
closer and closer.
443
00:19:56,654 --> 00:19:59,407
And I called him and said, I'm
going to go to the hospital.
444
00:19:59,449 --> 00:20:01,951
I'm going.
He's like, oh, God.
445
00:20:01,993 --> 00:20:04,871
It was hours that he was
just on the phone with me.
446
00:20:04,913 --> 00:20:07,707
Sorry.
447
00:20:07,749 --> 00:20:10,710
And she was born.
448
00:20:10,752 --> 00:20:13,254
And he heard the whole thing.
449
00:20:13,296 --> 00:20:16,633
I refused to let anybody
see her until he saw her.
450
00:20:16,675 --> 00:20:18,593
And she was about two,
three days old.
451
00:20:18,635 --> 00:20:20,220
And he was like, oh, my God.
452
00:20:20,261 --> 00:20:21,846
He didn't know how to hold her.
453
00:20:21,888 --> 00:20:22,889
I said, like a football.
454
00:20:22,931 --> 00:20:24,766
You're good.
455
00:20:24,808 --> 00:20:28,186
- She was a happy-go-lucky
little girl and beautiful.
456
00:20:28,228 --> 00:20:31,690
And she looked just like him.
457
00:20:31,731 --> 00:20:33,692
- For sure,
it changed his life.
458
00:20:33,733 --> 00:20:36,736
It gave him direction
and a purpose
459
00:20:36,778 --> 00:20:38,822
because it wasn't just
about him anymore.
460
00:20:38,863 --> 00:20:41,241
It was about
his beautiful child.
461
00:20:41,282 --> 00:20:43,076
[soft music]
462
00:20:43,118 --> 00:20:46,871
- At that time, Paul Levesque,
also known as Triple H,
463
00:20:46,913 --> 00:20:50,625
was head of creative
for WWE Developmental.
464
00:20:50,667 --> 00:20:53,837
- Windham was in the company
as Husky Harris.
465
00:20:53,878 --> 00:20:55,422
Didn't feel like
it was working.
466
00:20:55,463 --> 00:20:57,674
Didn't feel like
it was going to work.
467
00:20:57,716 --> 00:20:59,592
I think we have him miscast.
468
00:20:59,634 --> 00:21:02,012
He's really talented.
469
00:21:02,053 --> 00:21:05,849
Let me take him,
put him back down in Florida,
470
00:21:05,890 --> 00:21:10,395
and let me see
what I can get out of him.
471
00:21:13,106 --> 00:21:16,443
- He didn't want to be this
cookie-cutter--little tights.
472
00:21:16,484 --> 00:21:18,820
Windham from day one was
like, no [bleep] way, man.
473
00:21:18,862 --> 00:21:21,448
That's not my stuff.
I'm different.
474
00:21:21,489 --> 00:21:24,325
And he was sent back to FCW.
475
00:21:24,367 --> 00:21:28,705
He got in the car smiling,
laughing like, listen, listen.
476
00:21:30,874 --> 00:21:34,044
The entire 3 1/2-hour ride,
he was just showing me videos
477
00:21:34,085 --> 00:21:37,005
and telling me ideas
and all this stuff.
478
00:21:37,047 --> 00:21:40,050
It was crazy
and all over the place.
479
00:21:40,091 --> 00:21:42,719
And I'm like, what are you
even talking about, man?
480
00:21:42,761 --> 00:21:44,804
And he was telling me
about Waylon Mercy
481
00:21:44,846 --> 00:21:46,639
and we were watching
videos of that.
482
00:21:46,681 --> 00:21:49,768
- Waylon Mercy,
he's a peaceful man.
483
00:21:49,809 --> 00:21:52,937
He likes his peaceful
surroundings.
484
00:21:52,979 --> 00:21:55,565
- Those are the eeriest,
strangest-looking eyes
485
00:21:55,607 --> 00:21:56,858
I've ever seen.
486
00:21:56,900 --> 00:21:59,027
Look at this.
487
00:21:59,069 --> 00:22:01,946
- And he's telling me about
Robert De Niro's demeanor
488
00:22:01,988 --> 00:22:03,907
from "Cape Fear."
489
00:22:03,948 --> 00:22:07,243
The next week rolled around
and we had promo class,
490
00:22:07,285 --> 00:22:11,414
and it blew everybody's mind.
491
00:22:11,456 --> 00:22:15,460
- Because I am like God,
and God like me.
492
00:22:15,502 --> 00:22:17,253
You know, I'm as large as him.
493
00:22:17,295 --> 00:22:20,048
He is as small as I.
494
00:22:20,090 --> 00:22:21,841
[chuckles]
495
00:22:21,883 --> 00:22:26,930
- And just like that,
Bray Wyatt was born.
496
00:22:26,971 --> 00:22:29,307
- He really attributed
a lot of Bray
497
00:22:29,349 --> 00:22:31,267
to growing up in Brooksville.
498
00:22:31,309 --> 00:22:33,603
- He had a really, really
close friend growing up,
499
00:22:33,645 --> 00:22:35,188
Brae White.
500
00:22:35,230 --> 00:22:38,817
Still to this day, the craziest
mother[bleep] I've ever met.
501
00:22:38,858 --> 00:22:40,193
And this is a real person.
502
00:22:40,235 --> 00:22:42,153
He got in a car wreck
when he was younger
503
00:22:42,195 --> 00:22:43,488
and his head went
through the windshield
504
00:22:43,530 --> 00:22:45,073
and he lost all
feeling in his face,
505
00:22:45,115 --> 00:22:46,658
so he'd just headbutt
anything.
506
00:22:46,700 --> 00:22:50,662
And a lot
of his characteristics
507
00:22:50,704 --> 00:22:53,248
were taken and put
into the Bray Wyatt character.
508
00:22:53,289 --> 00:22:58,336
- I have never seen so clearly
in all my life.
509
00:22:58,378 --> 00:22:59,713
[laughs]
510
00:22:59,754 --> 00:23:02,048
- Windham's cousin's name
is Wyatt.
511
00:23:02,090 --> 00:23:05,343
So Windham kind of mixed it up
and came up with Bray Wyatt.
512
00:23:05,385 --> 00:23:08,388
- And they say, Bray Wyatt,
well, he's crazy, man.
513
00:23:08,430 --> 00:23:11,182
He's a psychopath.
514
00:23:11,224 --> 00:23:12,726
- He came out,
and everything about it--
515
00:23:12,767 --> 00:23:15,645
the presentation
and just the energy--
516
00:23:15,687 --> 00:23:18,481
we were like, oh, this is good.
517
00:23:18,523 --> 00:23:19,941
This jumps off the page.
518
00:23:19,983 --> 00:23:22,485
- [laughs]
519
00:23:22,527 --> 00:23:24,446
- It blew everybody away.
520
00:23:24,487 --> 00:23:26,072
You wouldn't even know
if he was there.
521
00:23:26,114 --> 00:23:28,199
And then all of a sudden,
Bray Wyatt would emerge.
522
00:23:28,241 --> 00:23:30,285
And it was truly like
he walked into a phone booth
523
00:23:30,326 --> 00:23:32,245
and came out as Superman.
524
00:23:32,287 --> 00:23:33,747
- A lot of times,
those promos on promo day
525
00:23:33,788 --> 00:23:34,748
will be 60 seconds.
526
00:23:34,789 --> 00:23:36,583
90 if you ask for it.
527
00:23:36,624 --> 00:23:37,917
Windham would go
up there sometimes
528
00:23:37,959 --> 00:23:39,627
for, like,
six or seven minutes.
529
00:23:39,669 --> 00:23:42,255
I think Dusty gave him
just a lot of room
530
00:23:42,297 --> 00:23:44,257
to explore and to find
that character
531
00:23:44,299 --> 00:23:46,301
and to find the voice.
532
00:23:46,343 --> 00:23:49,804
- Dusty knew there was
something special there,
533
00:23:49,846 --> 00:23:51,806
and he wasn't
going to let it go.
534
00:23:51,848 --> 00:23:54,225
He knew Windham had
something that was
535
00:23:54,267 --> 00:23:56,770
going to change the business.
536
00:23:56,811 --> 00:23:58,772
- Said he was Bray.
537
00:23:58,813 --> 00:24:00,690
As we started
to enlighten the world
538
00:24:00,732 --> 00:24:03,234
who this Bray Wyatt
character was,
539
00:24:03,276 --> 00:24:07,197
Windham is such a unique kid
that he understands--
540
00:24:07,238 --> 00:24:08,490
he believes that.
541
00:24:08,531 --> 00:24:10,283
That's who he is.
542
00:24:10,325 --> 00:24:12,077
That's what makes him so good.
543
00:24:19,876 --> 00:24:21,711
- Dusty called me one day
and he said,
544
00:24:21,753 --> 00:24:23,254
"Kid, remember Husky?"
545
00:24:23,296 --> 00:24:24,673
And I was like, yeah.
546
00:24:24,714 --> 00:24:26,299
And he goes,
"He's got a new character.
547
00:24:26,341 --> 00:24:27,425
"You're going to love it.
548
00:24:27,467 --> 00:24:28,802
You got to come check it out."
549
00:24:28,843 --> 00:24:32,681
And he cut this promo,
and it was so bizarre.
550
00:24:32,722 --> 00:24:35,642
And Dusty said,
"What do you think?"
551
00:24:35,684 --> 00:24:38,603
And I'm like,
this is a movie character.
552
00:24:40,230 --> 00:24:43,066
- Within months,
Windham had an idea.
553
00:24:43,108 --> 00:24:46,111
He wanted an on-screen family.
554
00:24:46,152 --> 00:24:48,780
But his brother Taylor was
already an established singles
555
00:24:48,822 --> 00:24:52,784
competitor known as Bo Dallas.
556
00:24:52,826 --> 00:24:58,832
Enter John Huber,
also known as Luke Harper.
557
00:24:58,873 --> 00:25:00,959
- I had flown to FCW
for the tryout.
558
00:25:01,001 --> 00:25:03,128
And then I get a call
from Windham.
559
00:25:03,169 --> 00:25:05,880
And about 10 minutes later,
I hang up the phone.
560
00:25:05,922 --> 00:25:07,215
I hadn't said a word.
561
00:25:07,257 --> 00:25:08,883
And this guy had--
562
00:25:08,925 --> 00:25:11,553
Bray--had rattled off about
a million different things.
563
00:25:11,594 --> 00:25:13,596
And I was like, oh, my God,
that dude's nuts.
564
00:25:13,638 --> 00:25:15,056
Like, wow.
565
00:25:16,933 --> 00:25:19,519
- Windham and Luke had
an immediate bond.
566
00:25:19,561 --> 00:25:21,062
They just connected.
567
00:25:21,104 --> 00:25:24,190
So initially, it just
started as Bray and Luke.
568
00:25:24,232 --> 00:25:27,485
We created this
environment where,
569
00:25:27,527 --> 00:25:30,613
is he really talking to people
or is this all in his mind?
570
00:25:30,655 --> 00:25:31,656
- Here we go.
571
00:25:31,698 --> 00:25:34,117
In three, two, one.
572
00:25:34,159 --> 00:25:35,201
Action.
573
00:25:35,243 --> 00:25:36,661
- Can you feel that?
574
00:25:36,703 --> 00:25:41,332
Come with me, and I will show
you a love that is power.
575
00:25:41,374 --> 00:25:44,044
- The first shoot,
he's on the river.
576
00:25:44,085 --> 00:25:46,546
It's in the forest
right down from our house.
577
00:25:46,588 --> 00:25:49,674
And the guys had to go back
in with the alligators
578
00:25:49,716 --> 00:25:52,135
and the mosquitoes
and everything.
579
00:25:52,177 --> 00:25:53,928
- I almost fell
on that one, buddy.
580
00:25:53,970 --> 00:25:55,263
[laughs]
581
00:25:55,305 --> 00:25:57,515
- Our first house was
on 10 acres, and we
582
00:25:57,557 --> 00:26:00,185
were next to a zoo that
had lions and big cats
583
00:26:00,226 --> 00:26:02,062
and started hearing,
like, lion roars at night.
584
00:26:02,103 --> 00:26:04,230
So unique stuff would happen.
585
00:26:04,272 --> 00:26:05,482
And he pulled from that.
586
00:26:05,523 --> 00:26:08,693
- I wish you'd quit
lying to your children,
587
00:26:08,735 --> 00:26:11,029
telling them that there's
things out there that
588
00:26:11,071 --> 00:26:13,573
won't go bump in the night.
589
00:26:13,615 --> 00:26:15,241
What they going to do, man?
590
00:26:15,283 --> 00:26:19,204
What you going to do
to something like me?
591
00:26:19,245 --> 00:26:21,623
What can they do?
592
00:26:21,664 --> 00:26:23,249
Run.
593
00:26:23,291 --> 00:26:24,584
[tense music]
594
00:26:24,626 --> 00:26:26,169
- There was something special
595
00:26:26,211 --> 00:26:29,756
and something interesting there
that could resonate.
596
00:26:29,798 --> 00:26:32,801
- My name is Bray Wyatt.
597
00:26:32,842 --> 00:26:34,594
Pleased to meet you, man.
598
00:26:34,636 --> 00:26:37,263
Help me welcome the first son
599
00:26:37,305 --> 00:26:41,976
of the Wyatt family,
Luke Harper.
600
00:26:42,018 --> 00:26:44,020
- This is getting weirder
by the second.
601
00:26:44,062 --> 00:26:45,855
- What is happening?
602
00:26:45,897 --> 00:26:48,024
- At the time,
I got this Viking gimmick.
603
00:26:48,066 --> 00:26:50,151
And I remember being
called into an office like,
604
00:26:50,193 --> 00:26:53,363
"OK, we want you
as the second son."
605
00:26:53,405 --> 00:26:55,615
And I was like, that's cool.
606
00:26:55,657 --> 00:26:57,283
What am I wearing?
607
00:26:57,325 --> 00:26:59,369
- Bray wanted Rowan
to wear a mask.
608
00:26:59,411 --> 00:27:02,122
So Rowan had a duffel bag
full of masks.
609
00:27:02,163 --> 00:27:05,000
And he pulls out
this sheep's mask.
610
00:27:05,041 --> 00:27:06,751
And Bray was like,
oh, I love it.
611
00:27:06,793 --> 00:27:08,628
That's perfect.
612
00:27:08,670 --> 00:27:10,296
- We are strong.
613
00:27:10,338 --> 00:27:12,257
We are dangerous.
614
00:27:12,298 --> 00:27:14,300
We are family.
615
00:27:14,342 --> 00:27:17,262
[laughs]
616
00:27:17,303 --> 00:27:19,723
- I would bring home
these big rocking chairs,
617
00:27:19,764 --> 00:27:21,558
and he and I
and Taylor and Mike
618
00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:22,851
would just mess them all up
619
00:27:22,892 --> 00:27:24,144
and make them look
rough and beat up.
620
00:27:24,185 --> 00:27:25,770
And that's
the one they'll see
621
00:27:25,812 --> 00:27:27,188
in the scene in the barn.
622
00:27:29,816 --> 00:27:31,317
- We were having a blast.
623
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,319
Sometimes, we would watch
old interviews
624
00:27:33,361 --> 00:27:35,113
with people that
were on death row
625
00:27:35,155 --> 00:27:37,407
because we're trying to see
how they speak.
626
00:27:37,449 --> 00:27:39,325
Why do they think
they're right?
627
00:27:39,367 --> 00:27:40,493
Just their mindset.
628
00:27:40,535 --> 00:27:42,412
And I think a lot of that
plays into, like,
629
00:27:42,454 --> 00:27:43,913
what he was able to create.
630
00:27:43,955 --> 00:27:46,332
[soft music]
631
00:27:46,374 --> 00:27:51,171
- At age 26, Bray Wyatt
was an immediate hit.
632
00:27:51,212 --> 00:27:55,759
As Windham's stardom grew,
so did his family.
633
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,719
He got married to Samantha.
634
00:27:57,761 --> 00:28:02,932
And on February 7, 2013,
his second daughter, Kendyl,
635
00:28:02,974 --> 00:28:05,352
was born.
636
00:28:05,393 --> 00:28:08,188
- Because he had missed
the first birth,
637
00:28:08,229 --> 00:28:09,856
I wanted to do
everything I could
638
00:28:09,898 --> 00:28:11,691
so he could be there
and experience it.
639
00:28:11,733 --> 00:28:13,151
Because I feel like
that's something
640
00:28:13,193 --> 00:28:14,527
that you have to experience.
641
00:28:14,569 --> 00:28:18,239
So we elected to be
induced with our second.
642
00:28:18,281 --> 00:28:20,867
That way, he could be there.
643
00:28:20,909 --> 00:28:23,787
- Windham was born to do a lot
and to be a lot of things.
644
00:28:23,828 --> 00:28:25,705
But being a daddy
was number one.
645
00:28:25,747 --> 00:28:27,874
When he loved,
he loved massively.
646
00:28:27,916 --> 00:28:31,544
And he had a whole heart
to give to his babies.
647
00:28:31,586 --> 00:28:34,172
- We all knew Windham was
going to be a great father.
648
00:28:34,214 --> 00:28:38,385
I mean, one of his strongest
qualities is how much he loves.
649
00:28:38,426 --> 00:28:41,596
And he already had plans
on where he was going
650
00:28:41,638 --> 00:28:43,473
and what he was going
to do, but his children,
651
00:28:43,515 --> 00:28:48,561
they just further instilled
more and more drive in him.
652
00:28:48,603 --> 00:28:51,272
- Three, two...
653
00:28:52,190 --> 00:28:53,066
[laughter]
654
00:28:53,108 --> 00:28:54,442
- Good. Good. Good.
655
00:28:54,484 --> 00:28:55,443
Tell them.
656
00:28:55,485 --> 00:28:56,569
Tell them, Bray.
657
00:28:56,611 --> 00:28:57,612
- There we go.
658
00:28:57,654 --> 00:28:59,989
Deep in the woods.
659
00:29:00,031 --> 00:29:01,241
- Real deep dive.
660
00:29:01,282 --> 00:29:02,242
- [laughs]
661
00:29:02,283 --> 00:29:03,702
- Come on, guys.
662
00:29:03,743 --> 00:29:05,453
Start it over.
663
00:29:06,329 --> 00:29:09,416
- Preparations were underway
to get the Wyatt family
664
00:29:09,457 --> 00:29:12,252
ready for an even
bigger stage.
665
00:29:12,293 --> 00:29:14,921
- As you talk about
bringing Bray Wyatt
666
00:29:14,963 --> 00:29:18,091
and the family up to Raw
or to SmackDown and up
667
00:29:18,133 --> 00:29:19,926
into the big show,
now, how do you
668
00:29:19,968 --> 00:29:22,262
take that,
put that into an arena?
669
00:29:22,303 --> 00:29:23,430
Let me talk to you
'cause I want you
670
00:29:23,471 --> 00:29:24,681
to understand
the psychology of it.
671
00:29:24,723 --> 00:29:25,765
- Let's go right now.
I'm ready.
672
00:29:25,807 --> 00:29:27,017
- It's subtle.
673
00:29:27,058 --> 00:29:28,560
That's where the lantern
came to be.
674
00:29:28,601 --> 00:29:30,770
I think, when I threw it
at him, he loved--
675
00:29:30,812 --> 00:29:32,313
like, all the lights
should go out
676
00:29:32,355 --> 00:29:34,899
and this creepy ass dude
comes out
677
00:29:34,941 --> 00:29:36,818
of the swamp holding a lantern.
678
00:29:36,860 --> 00:29:38,903
And just slightly
beneath your face.
679
00:29:38,945 --> 00:29:40,572
But it would give me
enough light to see that.
680
00:29:40,613 --> 00:29:43,575
Those were the things that
we sort of collaborated on
681
00:29:43,616 --> 00:29:46,036
a lot and put
the character together.
682
00:29:46,077 --> 00:29:48,705
- That's fun. I like that.
683
00:29:48,747 --> 00:29:53,293
- In the summer of 2013,
Bray Wyatt was ready
684
00:29:53,335 --> 00:29:55,628
to make his debut
on the national stage.
685
00:29:55,670 --> 00:29:57,130
[dramatic music]
686
00:29:57,172 --> 00:29:59,257
- This is Monday Night Raw.
687
00:29:59,299 --> 00:30:03,970
The WWE fans in Baltimore
are on their feet.
688
00:30:04,012 --> 00:30:05,722
- We finally got the call-up.
689
00:30:05,764 --> 00:30:09,809
And I don't know if we really
understood what we had.
690
00:30:09,851 --> 00:30:13,855
We knew the "NXT" crowd had
responded so well to us.
691
00:30:13,897 --> 00:30:15,607
We never in
a million years thought
692
00:30:15,648 --> 00:30:18,818
it was going to explode
the way it did.
693
00:30:18,860 --> 00:30:20,528
We're here.
694
00:30:26,534 --> 00:30:28,578
[dramatic music]
695
00:30:28,620 --> 00:30:30,663
- [roaring, grunting]
696
00:30:30,705 --> 00:30:32,749
- Bray Wyatt's emergence
on Monday Night Raw
697
00:30:32,791 --> 00:30:36,002
as the leader of
the cult-like Wyatt Family
698
00:30:36,044 --> 00:30:41,675
was unlike anything the WWE
Universe had seen before.
699
00:30:41,716 --> 00:30:44,135
- He was just such
a captivating talker.
700
00:30:44,177 --> 00:30:47,013
And he was doing stuff
that no one else was doing.
701
00:30:47,055 --> 00:30:49,224
Because in wrestling,
you get so much bombast
702
00:30:49,265 --> 00:30:51,685
and you're taught to, like,
play to the nosebleeds.
703
00:30:51,726 --> 00:30:54,646
But the way he could just
deliver something very softly
704
00:30:54,688 --> 00:30:56,856
and it would, like,
send chills up your spine--
705
00:30:56,898 --> 00:30:58,858
- Tomorrow morning
when you wake up,
706
00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:00,944
you go back to being
just another one
707
00:31:00,985 --> 00:31:03,530
of those anonymous souls.
708
00:31:03,571 --> 00:31:04,989
[laughs]
709
00:31:05,031 --> 00:31:06,533
- That stuff, I think,
was mesmerizing.
710
00:31:06,574 --> 00:31:09,536
And in many ways, he's
portraying this cult leader,
711
00:31:09,577 --> 00:31:10,787
but it almost felt real.
712
00:31:10,829 --> 00:31:13,581
Like, he was gathering
people's interest.
713
00:31:13,623 --> 00:31:16,251
- He put his whole heart
and soul into that character.
714
00:31:16,292 --> 00:31:19,045
And that transcended through
the camera and on TV.
715
00:31:19,087 --> 00:31:20,130
And you could feel it.
716
00:31:20,171 --> 00:31:23,133
all: This is awesome!
717
00:31:23,174 --> 00:31:26,636
- It was eerie, but you
knew that it was special
718
00:31:26,678 --> 00:31:29,556
because it felt almost
like a movie character.
719
00:31:29,597 --> 00:31:31,266
It felt like you were
watching something
720
00:31:31,307 --> 00:31:33,184
that shouldn't be in
professional wrestling--
721
00:31:33,226 --> 00:31:34,769
that didn't fit.
722
00:31:34,811 --> 00:31:36,646
- Oh, my God!
723
00:31:36,688 --> 00:31:39,399
- It was very interesting
to watch him create something
724
00:31:39,441 --> 00:31:42,068
that made sense in our world.
725
00:31:43,903 --> 00:31:46,489
- As soon as I saw Bray Wyatt
and the Wyatt Family,
726
00:31:46,531 --> 00:31:49,993
I was instantly
connected to it.
727
00:31:50,035 --> 00:31:56,041
I've always loved characters
that have this darkness to it,
728
00:31:56,082 --> 00:32:00,628
but a darkness that
is there for a reason.
729
00:32:00,670 --> 00:32:03,882
- Within a few months,
Bray Wyatt was
730
00:32:03,923 --> 00:32:09,387
vaulted into a rivalry
with a top star, John Cena.
731
00:32:09,429 --> 00:32:12,307
- I could be just like you.
732
00:32:12,349 --> 00:32:16,227
I could sign autographs
and kiss babies
733
00:32:16,269 --> 00:32:20,315
and make sure that everyone
buys all my merchandise.
734
00:32:20,357 --> 00:32:24,319
- The main focus of Bray
Wyatt's character was chaos.
735
00:32:24,361 --> 00:32:28,406
- I am different than
anyone you will ever face.
736
00:32:28,448 --> 00:32:30,450
- The ability
to just be a person
737
00:32:30,492 --> 00:32:32,827
that wants to see
the world burn.
738
00:32:32,869 --> 00:32:35,413
And man, when you
start breaking down
739
00:32:35,455 --> 00:32:38,750
the stuff he was saying,
it's, like, super deep.
740
00:32:38,792 --> 00:32:43,129
- The loneliest man on Earth
is the man who sits alone
741
00:32:43,171 --> 00:32:46,466
atop his empty castle.
742
00:32:46,508 --> 00:32:49,969
Who will be left for you, John?
743
00:32:50,011 --> 00:32:52,263
- But he was so entertaining
that if you didn't take
744
00:32:52,305 --> 00:32:54,140
anything away from it, cool.
745
00:32:54,182 --> 00:32:56,101
And if you wanted
to dive in the rabbit hole,
746
00:32:56,142 --> 00:32:58,103
you were going
to some weird places.
747
00:32:58,144 --> 00:32:59,646
- [laughs]
748
00:32:59,688 --> 00:33:01,773
all: This is awesome!
749
00:33:01,815 --> 00:33:04,943
- So it was like, holy shit,
we got something here.
750
00:33:04,984 --> 00:33:09,447
- At WrestleMania,
John Cena takes on Bray Wyatt.
751
00:33:09,489 --> 00:33:15,245
- Windham had made it
to the big time, WrestleMania.
752
00:33:15,286 --> 00:33:18,665
- New Orleans,
a weird voodoo-based town
753
00:33:18,707 --> 00:33:21,793
to get the WrestleMania
debut of Bray Wyatt.
754
00:33:21,835 --> 00:33:23,461
It really was special.
755
00:33:23,503 --> 00:33:25,588
- We all had dreams and goals.
756
00:33:25,630 --> 00:33:27,882
And me and Windham talked
about them endlessly.
757
00:33:27,924 --> 00:33:30,927
You know, like, if we can
make it to WrestleMania
758
00:33:30,969 --> 00:33:34,556
and get a match on that
platform, then we had made it.
759
00:33:34,597 --> 00:33:37,767
- * You could find him in *
760
00:33:37,809 --> 00:33:39,519
- We all knew
he was going to get there,
761
00:33:39,561 --> 00:33:43,189
but we didn't know he was
going to get there that fast.
762
00:33:43,231 --> 00:33:46,818
- To see him go
from the lowest of lows
763
00:33:46,860 --> 00:33:50,405
to figuring out who he was,
catching fire,
764
00:33:50,447 --> 00:33:52,157
and then working with
one of the greatest
765
00:33:52,198 --> 00:33:54,284
of all time, John Cena,
at WrestleMania,
766
00:33:54,325 --> 00:33:55,702
I mean,
it's an incredible story,
767
00:33:55,744 --> 00:33:57,871
and especially in such
a short period of time.
768
00:33:57,912 --> 00:33:59,205
- And here we go.
769
00:33:59,247 --> 00:34:00,957
This much-anticipated
match underway.
770
00:34:00,999 --> 00:34:02,375
Oh! Wow.
771
00:34:02,417 --> 00:34:04,377
- Growing up watching our dad
772
00:34:04,419 --> 00:34:05,378
and watching our uncles
773
00:34:05,420 --> 00:34:07,005
and watching our grandfather,
774
00:34:07,047 --> 00:34:09,716
the grandest stage of all
is going to be WrestleMania.
775
00:34:09,758 --> 00:34:13,386
And I remember sitting there
going, that's my big brother.
776
00:34:13,428 --> 00:34:15,430
- Bray Wyatt is trying
to sway the masses,
777
00:34:15,472 --> 00:34:16,806
and I'm not sure
it's not working.
778
00:34:16,848 --> 00:34:19,351
- The shepherd leading his
flock.
779
00:34:19,392 --> 00:34:20,769
- We were all excited for him.
780
00:34:20,810 --> 00:34:23,563
And even Mike and I
were just, wow.
781
00:34:23,605 --> 00:34:24,898
Wow.
782
00:34:24,939 --> 00:34:26,983
Because it's your kid,
and it's, you know,
783
00:34:27,025 --> 00:34:28,068
that was the first time
784
00:34:28,109 --> 00:34:29,569
I saw him bigger than life.
785
00:34:29,611 --> 00:34:31,237
- Cena, second rope.
Caught by Wyatt!
786
00:34:31,279 --> 00:34:32,572
Oh! That could be it!
787
00:34:32,614 --> 00:34:33,990
- What an impact!
- Shoulders are down!
788
00:34:34,032 --> 00:34:35,116
- Kick out in two.
789
00:34:35,158 --> 00:34:37,577
- I was very happy for him.
790
00:34:37,619 --> 00:34:40,288
It's a good feeling
in your heart as a parent
791
00:34:40,330 --> 00:34:44,584
to see your kid work really
hard and get rewarded for it.
792
00:34:44,626 --> 00:34:46,711
- Whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa.
793
00:34:46,753 --> 00:34:48,213
That stopped Cena
in his tracks.
794
00:34:48,254 --> 00:34:49,631
- What is that?
795
00:34:49,673 --> 00:34:52,008
- I've never seen a match
quite like this.
796
00:34:52,050 --> 00:34:54,803
- 20 years from now,
they'll go, wow, this moment
797
00:34:54,844 --> 00:34:56,805
happened with John.
798
00:34:56,846 --> 00:35:00,225
That's what I'm
looking forward to.
799
00:35:00,266 --> 00:35:01,726
- AA for Cena.
800
00:35:01,768 --> 00:35:02,852
Hook of the leg.
801
00:35:02,894 --> 00:35:06,523
John Cena's legacy grows.
802
00:35:06,564 --> 00:35:09,609
- It was spectacular.
803
00:35:09,651 --> 00:35:11,277
I'm an advocate
for, it takes 10 years
804
00:35:11,319 --> 00:35:12,779
to establish sort of fluency.
805
00:35:12,821 --> 00:35:16,408
And I know Husky Harris didn't
work out, but holy shit.
806
00:35:16,449 --> 00:35:19,536
When he came back, it was like
fluency in six months.
807
00:35:19,577 --> 00:35:23,039
That is a meteoric rise.
808
00:35:23,081 --> 00:35:24,624
- An incredible scene.
809
00:35:24,666 --> 00:35:27,043
And the sea of Fireflies--
what Bray Wyatt
810
00:35:27,085 --> 00:35:29,671
calls his followers--
lighting the arena.
811
00:35:31,047 --> 00:35:34,968
[soft music]
812
00:35:35,010 --> 00:35:37,470
- The lantern, to me, is like--
this is one of the many things
813
00:35:37,512 --> 00:35:39,014
I loved about your brother
is that
814
00:35:39,055 --> 00:35:41,307
he could make anything iconic.
815
00:35:41,349 --> 00:35:42,642
- And this one's, like,
the first one too.
816
00:35:42,684 --> 00:35:43,852
So it was much simpler.
- Yeah.
817
00:35:43,893 --> 00:35:46,229
This is it.
This is the very first one.
818
00:35:46,271 --> 00:35:48,398
* *
819
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,569
- Looking at this,
it reminds me
820
00:35:52,610 --> 00:35:55,113
of the birth of the Fireflies.
821
00:35:55,155 --> 00:35:57,240
Like...
822
00:35:57,282 --> 00:36:00,201
to see that as
it was happening was--
823
00:36:04,497 --> 00:36:06,207
I have a memory--
824
00:36:06,249 --> 00:36:07,584
it was Madison Square Garden--
825
00:36:07,625 --> 00:36:09,627
and I got to see his entrance.
826
00:36:11,713 --> 00:36:13,298
And...
827
00:36:16,426 --> 00:36:17,969
- I mean,
because that's it, right?
828
00:36:18,011 --> 00:36:19,179
Madison Square Garden is the--
829
00:36:19,220 --> 00:36:21,264
- It's something
I'll never forget.
830
00:36:21,306 --> 00:36:25,185
To look out...
831
00:36:25,226 --> 00:36:30,065
and see the sea of lights.
832
00:36:30,106 --> 00:36:34,694
* *
833
00:36:34,736 --> 00:36:38,531
The Fireflies, we had
never seen before in WWE.
834
00:36:38,573 --> 00:36:42,577
And I don't know
if we'll ever see it again.
835
00:36:44,996 --> 00:36:46,873
[tense music]
836
00:36:46,915 --> 00:36:48,416
- We're here.
837
00:36:49,209 --> 00:36:51,878
It was created by
the fans on their own.
838
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,047
You know, they call
themselves the Fireflies.
839
00:36:54,089 --> 00:36:55,590
And it became their own thing.
840
00:36:55,632 --> 00:36:56,966
And now it's become
a spectacle.
841
00:36:57,008 --> 00:36:59,219
Like, almost a piece
of what you pay
842
00:36:59,260 --> 00:37:00,637
to come see at a WWE show
843
00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:02,263
is the Wyatt entrance.
844
00:37:02,305 --> 00:37:07,602
- When you get is not just
typical fan participation.
845
00:37:07,644 --> 00:37:10,105
You get this idea that
everything this character
846
00:37:10,146 --> 00:37:11,898
is saying is true.
847
00:37:11,940 --> 00:37:14,401
Because every little light
that is around
848
00:37:14,442 --> 00:37:15,985
this darkened arena
849
00:37:16,027 --> 00:37:18,780
represents somebody
that's buying in
850
00:37:18,822 --> 00:37:22,617
to whatever this malicious
character is selling.
851
00:37:22,659 --> 00:37:24,077
- He just found a niche.
852
00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:26,955
And finding a niche
is a really hard thing to do,
853
00:37:26,996 --> 00:37:29,749
you know, and make it
last for a while.
854
00:37:29,791 --> 00:37:32,210
- The matches, the promos,
all of it's
855
00:37:32,252 --> 00:37:36,214
just avenues that we take to do
what we're really doing here,
856
00:37:36,256 --> 00:37:37,716
which is connect
with the audience.
857
00:37:37,757 --> 00:37:38,883
That's it.
858
00:37:38,925 --> 00:37:40,677
So if you find a way
to do that,
859
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:41,928
that's your ticket.
860
00:37:41,970 --> 00:37:43,388
That's how you climb
the ladder.
861
00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:45,515
And he clearly did.
862
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,355
[indistinct chatter]
863
00:37:52,397 --> 00:37:54,941
- When people would approach
him, they wanted to meet Bray.
864
00:37:54,983 --> 00:37:58,486
And Windham gave them who
he was and he took his time.
865
00:37:58,528 --> 00:37:59,738
- Would you like anything else?
866
00:37:59,779 --> 00:38:01,156
Oh, is this for me?
- Yeah.
867
00:38:01,197 --> 00:38:02,323
- Oh, thank you.
868
00:38:02,365 --> 00:38:03,408
- I appreciate
everything you do.
869
00:38:03,450 --> 00:38:04,826
- Thank you very much.
870
00:38:04,868 --> 00:38:06,244
- Whatever you have
going on in your life,
871
00:38:06,286 --> 00:38:07,579
it matters to me.
872
00:38:07,620 --> 00:38:09,664
Even if we have
a five-minute interaction,
873
00:38:09,706 --> 00:38:11,499
whatever you want to tell me
is important to me
874
00:38:11,541 --> 00:38:13,293
and I'm going to
genuinely listen.
875
00:38:13,335 --> 00:38:14,711
And when I walk away from you,
876
00:38:14,753 --> 00:38:16,296
I'm going to leave you
better than I found you.
877
00:38:16,338 --> 00:38:17,756
- [laughs]
878
00:38:26,973 --> 00:38:28,016
- Thank you.
879
00:38:28,058 --> 00:38:31,227
- Ready? 1, 2, 3.
880
00:38:31,269 --> 00:38:33,313
- He's my favorite wrestler
of all time.
881
00:38:33,355 --> 00:38:36,024
I'm still shaking.
882
00:38:36,066 --> 00:38:37,108
Love you, Bray.
883
00:38:37,150 --> 00:38:38,526
Don't forget your autograph.
884
00:38:39,361 --> 00:38:40,528
- Everything. You really are.
885
00:38:41,446 --> 00:38:42,697
- He just had it.
886
00:38:42,739 --> 00:38:45,575
And not only it,
he had everything else
887
00:38:45,617 --> 00:38:46,618
to go along with that.
888
00:38:46,659 --> 00:38:47,660
- I'm blessed to be here.
889
00:38:47,702 --> 00:38:48,912
- Nice to meet you.
890
00:38:48,953 --> 00:38:49,996
All right, man.
891
00:38:51,748 --> 00:38:53,500
- I don't think
I've ever seen anyone
892
00:38:53,541 --> 00:38:56,336
so committed
to being a character.
893
00:38:56,378 --> 00:38:59,214
And when he was Bray Wyatt,
894
00:38:59,255 --> 00:39:01,716
I don't know if anyone
was more believable.
895
00:39:01,758 --> 00:39:04,010
I don't know if anyone
immersed you as much,
896
00:39:04,052 --> 00:39:07,555
if anyone made you believe
as much as he did.
897
00:39:07,597 --> 00:39:09,641
He was just one of
the most cerebral performers
898
00:39:09,683 --> 00:39:12,310
I think that I'd ever met
because his preparation
899
00:39:12,352 --> 00:39:13,353
was so real.
900
00:39:13,395 --> 00:39:15,021
- And action.
901
00:39:15,063 --> 00:39:16,815
- I'm here.
902
00:39:16,856 --> 00:39:19,359
You're here.
903
00:39:19,401 --> 00:39:21,403
We're all here.
904
00:39:22,737 --> 00:39:25,532
- I remember being in
the backstage one time.
905
00:39:25,573 --> 00:39:28,952
And as I'm walking past,
I see, like, Windham
906
00:39:28,993 --> 00:39:31,496
out of the corner
of my eye like this
907
00:39:31,538 --> 00:39:33,915
up to the wall in
this little alcove.
908
00:39:33,957 --> 00:39:36,251
And he's just going over his
promo and going over his promo
909
00:39:36,292 --> 00:39:38,003
and going over his promo.
910
00:39:38,044 --> 00:39:41,047
And I remember thinking,
wow, I wish I could
911
00:39:41,089 --> 00:39:44,676
have that type of focus
and that type of dedication
912
00:39:44,718 --> 00:39:48,138
and that type of commitment
to the character.
913
00:39:48,179 --> 00:39:51,057
He's such a creative guy.
914
00:39:51,099 --> 00:39:54,602
- Windham's commitment
to his craft caught my eye.
915
00:39:54,644 --> 00:39:56,354
I knew this kid was special.
916
00:39:56,396 --> 00:40:00,900
And the time was right
for us to meet in the ring.
917
00:40:00,942 --> 00:40:02,861
- When I got that message
that I was
918
00:40:02,902 --> 00:40:05,405
going to have the luxury
and the privilege of competing
919
00:40:05,447 --> 00:40:07,824
against the Undertaker
at WrestleMania,
920
00:40:07,866 --> 00:40:09,826
I was immediately
like, oh, my God.
921
00:40:09,868 --> 00:40:14,080
I am Bray Wyatt,
the new face of fear!
922
00:40:14,122 --> 00:40:16,708
And then I remember
he was in the room.
923
00:40:16,750 --> 00:40:18,918
And I remember him kind of--
924
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,920
you know,
when he does his finger.
925
00:40:20,962 --> 00:40:24,382
[laughs] And he called me in.
926
00:40:24,424 --> 00:40:26,426
And he sat me down real calm.
927
00:40:26,468 --> 00:40:29,471
And he was like,
are you ready to do this?
928
00:40:29,512 --> 00:40:34,059
And like, you know,
I'm like, yeah.
929
00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:36,311
This is everything
I've ever trained for.
930
00:40:36,353 --> 00:40:38,772
Of course I'm ready for this.
931
00:40:38,813 --> 00:40:41,649
- It will be a night
forever etched in history
932
00:40:41,691 --> 00:40:45,028
and legends will be born.
933
00:40:45,070 --> 00:40:47,572
- It was huge.
934
00:40:47,614 --> 00:40:49,616
Nobody can touch
the Undertaker.
935
00:40:49,657 --> 00:40:52,619
I mean, he had his
action figures.
936
00:40:52,660 --> 00:40:54,245
- You think Bray Wyatt
might be having
937
00:40:54,287 --> 00:40:55,747
second thoughts right now?
938
00:40:55,789 --> 00:40:57,540
- I enjoyed it because
it's like watching
939
00:40:57,582 --> 00:41:02,712
the Freddy versus Jason live
or Godzilla versus King Kong.
940
00:41:02,754 --> 00:41:04,756
- Bray Wyatt wanted
to dance with the devil?
941
00:41:04,798 --> 00:41:06,508
Welcome to hell.
942
00:41:12,305 --> 00:41:14,974
- That night on
the grandest stage,
943
00:41:15,016 --> 00:41:18,603
Windham proved he was
a legend in the making.
944
00:41:18,645 --> 00:41:20,271
[dramatic music]
945
00:41:20,313 --> 00:41:23,108
- That, indeed, is
the new face of fear.
946
00:41:23,149 --> 00:41:25,694
- That WrestleMania match
did more for me
947
00:41:25,735 --> 00:41:28,154
than I could ever
put into words.
948
00:41:28,196 --> 00:41:29,948
- Oh, what a WrestleMania
moment!
949
00:41:29,989 --> 00:41:32,826
- At that time, I was
struggling with my confidence.
950
00:41:32,867 --> 00:41:34,953
And that night,
Windham helped restore
951
00:41:34,994 --> 00:41:36,663
not only the Undertaker...
952
00:41:36,705 --> 00:41:40,375
- The Undertaker did it!
953
00:41:40,417 --> 00:41:42,752
- But Mark Calaway, as well.
954
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,255
- He's like your father.
955
00:41:45,296 --> 00:41:47,841
And he is responsible
for so much
956
00:41:47,882 --> 00:41:49,676
of the progression
of this business.
957
00:41:49,718 --> 00:41:51,011
You know, not just in the ring,
958
00:41:51,052 --> 00:41:53,013
but what he did
behind the stages
959
00:41:53,054 --> 00:41:57,809
to kind of show everyone
and lead by his example.
960
00:41:57,851 --> 00:42:03,523
- By 2015, Bray Wyatt
was box office.
961
00:42:03,565 --> 00:42:07,152
And all the while, he was
becoming a trusted mentor
962
00:42:07,193 --> 00:42:08,570
behind the scenes.
963
00:42:10,530 --> 00:42:14,075
- I hadn't been into
the business for too long.
964
00:42:14,117 --> 00:42:17,370
The second he laid eyes on me,
he pulled me off to the side
965
00:42:17,412 --> 00:42:20,790
and he was like, "I want you
to be a part of us.
966
00:42:20,832 --> 00:42:22,792
I don't know how, when, where."
967
00:42:22,834 --> 00:42:27,130
He was like,
"But holy cow, look at you."
968
00:42:27,172 --> 00:42:28,882
- What the--
969
00:42:28,923 --> 00:42:32,427
[cheers and applause]
970
00:42:32,469 --> 00:42:33,845
This guy is a monster.
971
00:42:33,887 --> 00:42:36,514
Look at the size of him.
972
00:42:36,556 --> 00:42:41,811
- From day one, he treated me
like I was like a brother.
973
00:42:41,853 --> 00:42:44,356
He taught me all kinds
of stuff in the ring.
974
00:42:44,397 --> 00:42:47,484
But honestly, like,
I learned more from him about
975
00:42:47,525 --> 00:42:49,486
the real world, I feel like.
976
00:42:49,527 --> 00:42:51,905
You know, him being
a third-generation wrestler,
977
00:42:51,946 --> 00:42:53,239
being in this business,
978
00:42:53,281 --> 00:42:54,783
already been on TV,
established,
979
00:42:54,824 --> 00:42:57,452
and stuff like that,
he'd already navigated
980
00:42:57,494 --> 00:42:59,579
the wolves in the forest.
981
00:42:59,621 --> 00:43:04,542
He was just that guy that just
made sure everyone was happy
982
00:43:04,584 --> 00:43:06,753
and everyone was
well taken care of
983
00:43:06,795 --> 00:43:09,255
and felt like they belonged.
984
00:43:09,297 --> 00:43:11,841
- I remember coming up
and being afraid
985
00:43:11,883 --> 00:43:13,885
and being scared and being
away from home.
986
00:43:13,927 --> 00:43:18,139
And the warmth
and the humility with which
987
00:43:18,181 --> 00:43:22,310
he talked to you like he
was on the same level as you
988
00:43:22,352 --> 00:43:26,231
and with just
no pretenses about him.
989
00:43:26,272 --> 00:43:27,649
- I think he really
loved people.
990
00:43:27,691 --> 00:43:29,984
And I think he loved
positively affecting people.
991
00:43:30,026 --> 00:43:33,446
And he loved seeing people
smile or laugh.
992
00:43:33,488 --> 00:43:35,448
- Even when he was like,
you know, had been on the road
993
00:43:35,490 --> 00:43:37,951
for two weeks and just wanted
to get home and see his kids,
994
00:43:37,992 --> 00:43:40,537
like, he was still always
in a good mood.
995
00:43:40,578 --> 00:43:46,001
He was just such a pleasure
to be around as a human being.
996
00:43:46,042 --> 00:43:48,169
- Windham's lineage
and the fact that the business
997
00:43:48,211 --> 00:43:53,133
is in his blood, not only was
he this interesting performer,
998
00:43:53,174 --> 00:43:55,051
but he had a lot of respect
for the business.
999
00:43:55,093 --> 00:43:56,469
A lot.
1000
00:43:56,511 --> 00:44:01,141
And he had a lot of camaraderie
with the superstars.
1001
00:44:01,182 --> 00:44:05,311
He was really fun to be around
and always wanted everybody
1002
00:44:05,353 --> 00:44:07,063
to have a good time.
1003
00:44:07,105 --> 00:44:08,898
- He could light up
a room in an instant.
1004
00:44:08,940 --> 00:44:10,984
He was the guy
who was a chameleon.
1005
00:44:11,026 --> 00:44:13,987
He was the guy that everybody
was best friends with.
1006
00:44:14,029 --> 00:44:16,990
He had a certain draw to him.
1007
00:44:17,032 --> 00:44:19,075
- He just had a charisma,
a zest for life.
1008
00:44:19,117 --> 00:44:20,410
Like, you were drawn to him.
1009
00:44:20,452 --> 00:44:21,703
He was a very magnetic person.
1010
00:44:26,708 --> 00:44:30,670
- This is the greatest night
in live entertainment.
1011
00:44:30,712 --> 00:44:33,214
- WrestleMania 32.
1012
00:44:33,256 --> 00:44:36,634
Over 100,000 Fireflies
lit up the sky
1013
00:44:36,676 --> 00:44:40,221
for Bray Wyatt, a spectacle
that was recognized
1014
00:44:40,263 --> 00:44:43,725
by one of the greatest WWE
superstars of all time,
1015
00:44:43,767 --> 00:44:47,896
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson.
1016
00:44:47,937 --> 00:44:49,189
- The Rock's had his eye on you
1017
00:44:49,230 --> 00:44:51,232
ever since you came
into the WWE.
1018
00:44:51,274 --> 00:44:54,277
You got it all.
1019
00:44:54,319 --> 00:44:56,404
You hold people in the palm
of your hands.
1020
00:44:56,446 --> 00:44:58,323
When the lights went out,
you came down,
1021
00:44:58,365 --> 00:45:00,575
100,000 people had
their phones up.
1022
00:45:00,617 --> 00:45:03,244
100,000 people.
1023
00:45:03,286 --> 00:45:05,372
- He was almost bulletproof
at that point.
1024
00:45:05,413 --> 00:45:08,041
I never saw him exhibit
any nerves
1025
00:45:08,083 --> 00:45:10,669
as he's lining up
for these huge main events.
1026
00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:13,213
You simply couldn't
take your eyes off him.
1027
00:45:13,254 --> 00:45:15,882
- After four years
on the main roster,
1028
00:45:15,924 --> 00:45:22,097
there was a milestone that
Bray Wyatt had yet to achieve.
1029
00:45:22,138 --> 00:45:24,224
- When everything
is said and done,
1030
00:45:24,265 --> 00:45:30,522
I will be leaving
the new WWE champion!
1031
00:45:30,563 --> 00:45:31,773
- Phenomenal form.
1032
00:45:31,815 --> 00:45:33,692
No, it's blocked by Wyatt.
1033
00:45:33,733 --> 00:45:36,611
Sister Abigail on AJ Styles.
1034
00:45:36,653 --> 00:45:38,571
- One, two, three!
1035
00:45:38,613 --> 00:45:42,534
[cheers and applause]
1036
00:45:42,575 --> 00:45:44,536
- Bray Wyatt has done it.
1037
00:45:44,577 --> 00:45:48,248
In the soul-stealing structure
known as the Elimination
1038
00:45:48,289 --> 00:45:52,460
Chamber, Bray Wyatt has won
his first WWE Championship.
1039
00:45:54,462 --> 00:45:57,674
- The company had put their
stamp on him and said,
1040
00:45:57,716 --> 00:45:59,259
this is going to be our guy.
1041
00:45:59,300 --> 00:46:02,804
I mean, there's not
many better feelings
1042
00:46:02,846 --> 00:46:06,975
from a performer's perspective
when you finally get that.
1043
00:46:07,017 --> 00:46:10,311
- In this hellacious match,
Bray Wyatt rose from the ashes
1044
00:46:10,353 --> 00:46:13,106
to taste the ultimate glory.
1045
00:46:13,148 --> 00:46:17,110
The era of Wyatt is here.
1046
00:46:17,152 --> 00:46:19,446
- He was the first
in the family to win,
1047
00:46:19,487 --> 00:46:22,991
which is pretty good
considering your grandfather
1048
00:46:23,033 --> 00:46:25,910
did it, your uncles did it,
your dad did it.
1049
00:46:25,952 --> 00:46:27,037
And you were the first.
1050
00:46:27,078 --> 00:46:28,913
So that's cool.
1051
00:46:28,955 --> 00:46:31,458
- Out of all of us,
that I'm the one that did it--
1052
00:46:31,499 --> 00:46:34,294
my whole entire life,
no matter what accolade,
1053
00:46:34,336 --> 00:46:36,838
what thing I did great,
the first paragraph
1054
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,631
was about everyone else
in my family
1055
00:46:38,673 --> 00:46:40,800
that was not me and all
the things they had done.
1056
00:46:40,842 --> 00:46:44,179
And now it's like, when you
look at anything about them,
1057
00:46:44,220 --> 00:46:47,140
it's a whole paragraph
about me.
1058
00:46:47,182 --> 00:46:48,933
- When you're working
with talent,
1059
00:46:48,975 --> 00:46:50,352
you form a bond with them
1060
00:46:50,393 --> 00:46:52,145
and you know the human being
behind it
1061
00:46:52,187 --> 00:46:54,898
and you know how hard
they work at it.
1062
00:46:54,939 --> 00:46:59,527
Windham winning a title that
had eluded his entire family,
1063
00:46:59,569 --> 00:47:02,072
that was so special.
1064
00:47:02,113 --> 00:47:03,198
- I was there.
1065
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,116
It was huge. I cried.
1066
00:47:05,158 --> 00:47:08,203
It was very, very cool.
1067
00:47:08,244 --> 00:47:10,121
- If I go back and look
at the landscape
1068
00:47:10,163 --> 00:47:14,084
of my life and my career here,
the ridiculously hard times
1069
00:47:14,125 --> 00:47:16,169
are kind of what
strengthened me.
1070
00:47:16,211 --> 00:47:18,338
I knew that sooner
or later I'd get to it,
1071
00:47:18,380 --> 00:47:22,008
it was just a matter
of how and when.
1072
00:47:22,050 --> 00:47:23,176
- It was huge for him.
1073
00:47:23,218 --> 00:47:24,427
Getting on top was one thing.
1074
00:47:24,469 --> 00:47:26,137
To stay there...
1075
00:47:28,848 --> 00:47:31,893
- Being on top means
numerous appearances,
1076
00:47:31,935 --> 00:47:37,732
new responsibilities,
and more time away from home.
1077
00:47:37,774 --> 00:47:41,319
- Me and Bray were very close,
especially for that stint.
1078
00:47:41,361 --> 00:47:43,863
We were working
so closely together
1079
00:47:43,905 --> 00:47:45,448
and we were really
telling some good stories
1080
00:47:45,490 --> 00:47:47,534
and having a lot of fun on TV.
1081
00:47:47,575 --> 00:47:49,619
- I feel like we're shooting
a [bleep] movie
1082
00:47:49,661 --> 00:47:50,829
for SyFy channel right now.
1083
00:47:50,870 --> 00:47:52,122
[laughter]
1084
00:47:52,163 --> 00:47:53,873
- But being on the road,
it's tough.
1085
00:47:53,915 --> 00:47:57,544
When guys start having kids
and we get a little older,
1086
00:47:57,585 --> 00:48:00,255
you know, things change.
1087
00:48:00,296 --> 00:48:02,882
It's very hard to balance,
especially when
1088
00:48:02,924 --> 00:48:04,300
you're a young man.
1089
00:48:04,342 --> 00:48:08,638
The work and home life
balance, if you will.
1090
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,850
It's virtually impossible.
1091
00:48:11,891 --> 00:48:14,060
- Oh! RKO!
1092
00:48:14,102 --> 00:48:16,980
Randy Orton is champion!
1093
00:48:17,022 --> 00:48:19,107
[tense music]
1094
00:48:19,149 --> 00:48:23,403
- It was just after
WrestleMania in Orlando.
1095
00:48:23,445 --> 00:48:27,240
Things were not
what they used to be.
1096
00:48:27,282 --> 00:48:29,534
He was on the road
and traveling
1097
00:48:29,576 --> 00:48:31,578
and I was at home
with the kids.
1098
00:48:31,619 --> 00:48:35,832
And we ultimately
got divorced.
1099
00:48:35,874 --> 00:48:39,627
Our lives just grew apart.
1100
00:48:39,669 --> 00:48:43,673
- He was absent.
1101
00:48:43,715 --> 00:48:46,009
Mind, body, and soul.
1102
00:48:46,051 --> 00:48:50,096
The divorce in that time of his
life was a devastating ordeal.
1103
00:48:50,138 --> 00:48:53,433
[somber music]
1104
00:48:53,475 --> 00:48:58,146
- Windham's frustrations
affected his focus.
1105
00:48:58,188 --> 00:48:59,898
- So, guys, remember
long at the beginning.
1106
00:48:59,939 --> 00:49:01,107
- Just [bleep]--let's go.
1107
00:49:01,149 --> 00:49:03,318
- Yep. In five.
1108
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,571
- Windham was very emotionally
attached to his work.
1109
00:49:06,613 --> 00:49:09,449
When things went great,
they were great.
1110
00:49:09,491 --> 00:49:12,452
And when they went not so great
and they were frustrating,
1111
00:49:12,494 --> 00:49:15,789
they were exaggeratedly
frustrated.
1112
00:49:15,830 --> 00:49:17,999
- You going to cut me?
1113
00:49:18,041 --> 00:49:21,628
- Sometimes the hardest thing
to talk him into was, OK, yeah,
1114
00:49:21,670 --> 00:49:23,880
but how do we make that work
in the ring?
1115
00:49:23,922 --> 00:49:26,007
I get it. That shit is crazy.
1116
00:49:26,049 --> 00:49:27,342
It seems genius.
1117
00:49:27,384 --> 00:49:29,761
It's like, man,
I'm intrigued by that.
1118
00:49:29,803 --> 00:49:32,305
OK. But now, ding ding.
1119
00:49:32,347 --> 00:49:34,265
And that was
sometimes the trick.
1120
00:49:34,307 --> 00:49:37,394
He was so creative
and so outside the box
1121
00:49:37,435 --> 00:49:40,230
that pulling it back
into a particular genre
1122
00:49:40,271 --> 00:49:42,774
was hard for him to do.
1123
00:49:42,816 --> 00:49:45,193
- While Windham's brother
Taylor was finding success
1124
00:49:45,235 --> 00:49:50,615
as a WWE tag team champion,
Bray's on-screen Wyatt family
1125
00:49:50,657 --> 00:49:54,494
was no more.
1126
00:49:54,536 --> 00:49:56,538
- Harper and Rowan
had branched off
1127
00:49:56,579 --> 00:49:57,872
and become a tag team
on their own
1128
00:49:57,914 --> 00:49:59,874
called The Bludgeon Brothers.
1129
00:49:59,916 --> 00:50:01,793
Braun Strowman had become
1130
00:50:01,835 --> 00:50:04,754
a bona fide
main-event superstar.
1131
00:50:04,796 --> 00:50:07,716
The Bray Wyatt character
kind of found himself
1132
00:50:07,757 --> 00:50:10,802
in a neutral position.
1133
00:50:10,844 --> 00:50:14,180
He was on TV, but he wasn't
really prominently featured.
1134
00:50:18,643 --> 00:50:20,437
- When I was working
with Harper and Rowan
1135
00:50:20,478 --> 00:50:22,397
doing the Bludgeon Brothers
stuff,
1136
00:50:22,439 --> 00:50:24,816
he'd come and check it out
and give the classic, like,
1137
00:50:24,858 --> 00:50:26,526
oh, baby.
1138
00:50:26,568 --> 00:50:28,361
Oh, you guys look good. Sexy.
1139
00:50:28,403 --> 00:50:30,363
You know, cracking jokes.
1140
00:50:30,405 --> 00:50:33,199
But you'd see every time
he'd see something artistic
1141
00:50:33,241 --> 00:50:35,035
and creative--like,
we'd make these things
1142
00:50:35,076 --> 00:50:36,369
for Harper and Rowan--
1143
00:50:36,411 --> 00:50:38,288
he'd be like, oh, I want that.
1144
00:50:38,329 --> 00:50:39,622
What can I do?
1145
00:50:39,664 --> 00:50:40,749
And you'd see the gears
start turning.
1146
00:50:40,790 --> 00:50:42,167
- And that's the thing
with Windham.
1147
00:50:42,208 --> 00:50:44,377
And like you said,
this was around 2018.
1148
00:50:44,419 --> 00:50:47,088
And behind the scenes,
there was a lot
1149
00:50:47,130 --> 00:50:48,548
going on in Windham's life.
1150
00:50:48,590 --> 00:50:51,468
And a normal person,
with everything
1151
00:50:51,509 --> 00:50:54,596
that he was dealing with,
could have let everything go
1152
00:50:54,637 --> 00:50:56,639
and kind of lost
the grip of it all.
1153
00:50:56,681 --> 00:51:01,269
But he's always been able
to find inspiration
1154
00:51:01,311 --> 00:51:04,147
in places I don't think
anybody else could.
1155
00:51:05,857 --> 00:51:08,443
- As Windham dealt
with the stress,
1156
00:51:08,485 --> 00:51:10,987
he leaned on his friends.
1157
00:51:11,780 --> 00:51:15,241
- We were together four
or five days a week.
1158
00:51:15,283 --> 00:51:16,326
We cried together.
1159
00:51:16,368 --> 00:51:17,410
We laughed together.
1160
00:51:17,452 --> 00:51:19,913
We did everything together.
1161
00:51:19,954 --> 00:51:22,207
The WWE, it's such a family.
1162
00:51:22,248 --> 00:51:23,416
It really is.
1163
00:51:23,458 --> 00:51:24,709
Like, we're all
together so much.
1164
00:51:24,751 --> 00:51:26,336
We're all away from our
families and stuff
1165
00:51:26,378 --> 00:51:29,172
like that--
our real blood families.
1166
00:51:29,214 --> 00:51:31,299
We all have a really cool
relationship.
1167
00:51:34,302 --> 00:51:35,679
- My name is JoJo.
1168
00:51:35,720 --> 00:51:39,474
And originally,
I started off as a wrestler.
1169
00:51:39,516 --> 00:51:44,604
And then I transitioned into
a role of the ring announcer.
1170
00:51:44,646 --> 00:51:47,357
The following
No Holds Barred match
1171
00:51:47,399 --> 00:51:51,319
will begin in Bray Wyatt's
House of Horrors.
1172
00:51:51,361 --> 00:51:53,321
We respected
each other's work.
1173
00:51:53,363 --> 00:51:57,283
And we slowly became really,
really great friends
1174
00:51:57,325 --> 00:51:59,911
through that time.
1175
00:51:59,953 --> 00:52:05,000
And so when we were both
able to, we started dating.
1176
00:52:05,041 --> 00:52:08,294
- I lived with JoJo
when I was in "NXT."
1177
00:52:08,336 --> 00:52:12,132
I never pictured JoJo
and Windham together.
1178
00:52:12,173 --> 00:52:13,466
Not for a single second.
1179
00:52:13,508 --> 00:52:15,593
Like, it never dawned on me.
1180
00:52:15,635 --> 00:52:18,888
But then you see them together
and you're like, oh, yeah.
1181
00:52:18,930 --> 00:52:20,265
Oh, that makes sense.
1182
00:52:20,306 --> 00:52:24,060
They're just these two
beautiful souls.
1183
00:52:24,102 --> 00:52:27,439
- JoJo made Windham happy,
and that's all
1184
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,816
you can ask for is
to be happy in this world,
1185
00:52:29,858 --> 00:52:31,526
you know?
1186
00:52:31,568 --> 00:52:34,821
- It's just that old saying,
you can't fight fate.
1187
00:52:34,863 --> 00:52:37,282
And I think fate was just--
it just took a little while
1188
00:52:37,323 --> 00:52:38,825
for them to find each other.
1189
00:52:38,867 --> 00:52:43,830
- He loved her so much
and she meant the world to him.
1190
00:52:43,872 --> 00:52:46,791
[light guitar music]
1191
00:52:46,833 --> 00:52:48,001
* *
1192
00:52:48,043 --> 00:52:51,671
- In 2019, Windham
and JoJo welcomed
1193
00:52:51,713 --> 00:52:57,469
their first child,
a son, Knash.
1194
00:52:57,510 --> 00:52:59,095
- When we found out
it was a boy--
1195
00:52:59,137 --> 00:53:01,681
[laughs] He was so happy.
1196
00:53:01,723 --> 00:53:03,808
He goes, "I didn't think
I could have boys.
1197
00:53:03,850 --> 00:53:07,228
I thought I was destined
for girls my whole life."
1198
00:53:07,270 --> 00:53:11,858
- Knash boy is the sweetest
little human
1199
00:53:11,900 --> 00:53:13,109
that I've ever met.
1200
00:53:13,151 --> 00:53:14,486
He looks more like JoJo,
1201
00:53:14,527 --> 00:53:17,489
but he has Windham's
personality.
1202
00:53:17,530 --> 00:53:22,660
- Two years later, they would
welcome a little girl, Hyrie.
1203
00:53:22,702 --> 00:53:23,953
- We got the yin and yang.
1204
00:53:23,995 --> 00:53:26,706
We've got the one that's
Windham, the firstborn.
1205
00:53:26,748 --> 00:53:30,835
And then the second one
is just full of fire.
1206
00:53:30,877 --> 00:53:32,921
- One of the things that I
loved the most about Windham
1207
00:53:32,962 --> 00:53:38,259
in general was how wonderful
a father he always was.
1208
00:53:38,301 --> 00:53:39,928
- Just going over
to their house,
1209
00:53:39,969 --> 00:53:42,639
it was like a scene
out of a movie.
1210
00:53:42,681 --> 00:53:46,434
Just loud and happy always.
1211
00:53:48,770 --> 00:53:52,107
- She changed his life
for the better.
1212
00:53:52,148 --> 00:53:55,235
all: * Happy birthday to you *
1213
00:53:55,276 --> 00:53:56,361
- Yay!
1214
00:53:56,403 --> 00:53:57,529
Time to blow this out.
1215
00:53:57,570 --> 00:53:58,780
- Blow it out.
- Make a wish.
1216
00:53:58,822 --> 00:54:01,783
[laughter]
1217
00:54:03,952 --> 00:54:06,663
- Yay!
1218
00:54:06,705 --> 00:54:09,874
- Windham's happiness
inspired his creative side.
1219
00:54:09,916 --> 00:54:13,628
By early 2019,
the idea for a new character
1220
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:16,423
started to develop.
1221
00:54:16,464 --> 00:54:19,926
- He always joked about how
every time he's had a child,
1222
00:54:19,968 --> 00:54:24,014
it boosted his confidence
to come back even harder.
1223
00:54:24,055 --> 00:54:25,598
So we would be at home.
1224
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,019
And we're laying in bed
and he's like,
1225
00:54:29,060 --> 00:54:31,062
"So I have this idea."
1226
00:54:34,941 --> 00:54:39,612
- Windham's journey took him
to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
1227
00:54:39,654 --> 00:54:41,281
- For years,
Windham was always like,
1228
00:54:41,322 --> 00:54:42,657
"Hey, we got to do something.
1229
00:54:42,699 --> 00:54:43,950
Let's do something.
Let's do something."
1230
00:54:43,992 --> 00:54:45,660
And I'm like, well,
you have my number.
1231
00:54:45,702 --> 00:54:46,911
Call me.
1232
00:54:46,953 --> 00:54:48,455
And then out of the blue
at, like, 2:00 AM,
1233
00:54:48,496 --> 00:54:50,206
I finally got the call
from Windham,
1234
00:54:50,248 --> 00:54:52,125
in classic Windham fashion.
1235
00:54:52,167 --> 00:54:55,628
And he was like, hey, man,
I've been sent home.
1236
00:54:55,670 --> 00:54:57,422
Creative has nothing for me.
1237
00:54:57,464 --> 00:54:58,923
I know what that means.
1238
00:54:58,965 --> 00:55:02,052
I got to do something drastic,
and I need your help.
1239
00:55:02,093 --> 00:55:04,554
* *
1240
00:55:08,099 --> 00:55:11,019
[tense music]
1241
00:55:11,061 --> 00:55:13,688
* *
1242
00:55:17,150 --> 00:55:19,944
- In the spring of 2019,
1243
00:55:19,986 --> 00:55:23,239
Windham had an idea
for a new character.
1244
00:55:23,281 --> 00:55:25,992
- I've always been a huge
fan of, like, horror movies.
1245
00:55:26,034 --> 00:55:27,619
So naturally,
the progression was--
1246
00:55:27,660 --> 00:55:29,788
you know, when I started
watching wrestling,
1247
00:55:29,829 --> 00:55:32,290
it was the horror characters
that always caught my eye.
1248
00:55:32,332 --> 00:55:34,584
One of my earliest memories
was Papa Shango
1249
00:55:34,626 --> 00:55:36,586
and The Ultimate Warrior.
1250
00:55:36,628 --> 00:55:37,962
- Well, take a look
at Papa Shango's face.
1251
00:55:38,004 --> 00:55:38,797
He's in a trance.
1252
00:55:38,838 --> 00:55:40,382
He's in another world.
1253
00:55:40,423 --> 00:55:44,135
And the curse is affecting
The Ultimate Warrior.
1254
00:55:44,177 --> 00:55:45,679
- That type of stuff
is the stuff
1255
00:55:45,720 --> 00:55:47,555
that really sticks in my head,
you know?
1256
00:55:47,597 --> 00:55:49,849
I think that wrestling needs
1257
00:55:49,891 --> 00:55:53,561
that kind of dark entity
in it.
1258
00:55:53,603 --> 00:55:55,647
- When we were children,
we weren't hearing
1259
00:55:55,689 --> 00:55:58,274
the stereotypical
bedtime stories.
1260
00:55:58,316 --> 00:56:00,819
We were hearing Stephen King.
1261
00:56:00,860 --> 00:56:03,113
- They needed their daily
update of where my book was
1262
00:56:03,154 --> 00:56:04,364
and what it was doing.
1263
00:56:04,406 --> 00:56:06,324
And they would both come
to the table
1264
00:56:06,366 --> 00:56:11,496
with these, like, characters
all with a Stephen King basis.
1265
00:56:11,538 --> 00:56:15,333
They have that influence.
1266
00:56:15,375 --> 00:56:16,835
I didn't mean to do it,
but I did.
1267
00:56:16,876 --> 00:56:18,128
[laughs]
1268
00:56:19,754 --> 00:56:22,382
- We both were huge fans
of horror movies
1269
00:56:22,424 --> 00:56:25,885
and the contrast
between good and evil.
1270
00:56:25,927 --> 00:56:29,889
But not only that, to make
what you would think to be good
1271
00:56:29,931 --> 00:56:33,643
seem evil and what you'd
think to be evil seem good.
1272
00:56:33,685 --> 00:56:37,147
* *
1273
00:56:37,188 --> 00:56:38,231
- So yeah.
1274
00:56:38,273 --> 00:56:40,608
There's a bunch
of our old concept.
1275
00:56:40,650 --> 00:56:42,235
Good thing I'm a hoarder.
1276
00:56:42,277 --> 00:56:43,361
[laughter]
1277
00:56:43,403 --> 00:56:44,571
So yeah, man.
1278
00:56:44,612 --> 00:56:45,905
Again, working
with your brother is
1279
00:56:45,947 --> 00:56:47,741
the funnest time I've ever had
1280
00:56:47,782 --> 00:56:49,743
professionally and personally.
1281
00:56:49,784 --> 00:56:51,494
I remember he just called
and he was like, yeah,
1282
00:56:51,536 --> 00:56:53,079
I want to come up
with this idea.
1283
00:56:53,121 --> 00:56:54,330
I want this mask.
1284
00:56:54,372 --> 00:56:55,582
- We both loved wrestling,
1285
00:56:55,623 --> 00:56:58,251
but I was The Rock
and Stone Cold,
1286
00:56:58,293 --> 00:57:01,338
and he was Kane and Undertaker
and Papa Shango.
1287
00:57:01,379 --> 00:57:02,630
You know, anything weird.
1288
00:57:02,672 --> 00:57:06,343
He was always attracted
to that, I think
1289
00:57:06,384 --> 00:57:09,220
because if you look at him,
he looks like a monster.
1290
00:57:09,262 --> 00:57:11,973
But he had the biggest
and best heart.
1291
00:57:12,015 --> 00:57:13,850
- I'm obviously paraphrasing,
but I remember
1292
00:57:13,892 --> 00:57:16,436
he said one time that
the only way to judge darkness
1293
00:57:16,478 --> 00:57:18,271
is through
the absence of light.
1294
00:57:18,313 --> 00:57:20,899
So you know, just doing that
was like this beautiful thing.
1295
00:57:20,940 --> 00:57:23,860
Then he's like, no, let's show
the world if you use something
1296
00:57:23,902 --> 00:57:26,154
that's dark, you can show
the world how beautiful
1297
00:57:26,196 --> 00:57:27,405
it is by contrast.
1298
00:57:27,447 --> 00:57:29,991
[indistinct chatter]
1299
00:57:34,788 --> 00:57:35,997
- Are we ready, Bray?
1300
00:57:36,039 --> 00:57:37,123
- I'm ready.
1301
00:57:37,165 --> 00:57:38,375
- All right. Let's do it.
1302
00:57:38,416 --> 00:57:43,004
- This new character
needed a new world.
1303
00:57:43,046 --> 00:57:44,798
- And action.
1304
00:57:44,839 --> 00:57:48,635
- This is the Firefly
Fun House.
1305
00:57:48,677 --> 00:57:49,928
[dramatic music]
1306
00:57:49,969 --> 00:57:51,137
- I had the opportunity
to work
1307
00:57:51,179 --> 00:57:54,140
on the first
Firefly Fun Houses.
1308
00:57:54,182 --> 00:57:59,104
The Firefly Fun House only
existed in Bray's mind.
1309
00:57:59,145 --> 00:58:00,689
It was not a real place.
1310
00:58:00,730 --> 00:58:04,109
He would allow us
inside that head.
1311
00:58:04,150 --> 00:58:07,821
And you can accept it
because it was fantasy.
1312
00:58:07,862 --> 00:58:09,948
When you walk in,
you want to just say, really.
1313
00:58:09,989 --> 00:58:10,949
- Really.
1314
00:58:10,990 --> 00:58:12,200
- Then you'll go, really.
- Really.
1315
00:58:12,242 --> 00:58:13,493
- And then look back
at the camera.
1316
00:58:13,535 --> 00:58:15,120
[soft music]
1317
00:58:15,161 --> 00:58:17,247
- Shooting the Fun House
was unlike anything
1318
00:58:17,288 --> 00:58:18,540
WWE has done before.
1319
00:58:18,581 --> 00:58:19,791
And that was always
our intention
1320
00:58:19,833 --> 00:58:21,001
was to do something
completely different.
1321
00:58:21,042 --> 00:58:22,335
And in wrestling,
that's tough because
1322
00:58:22,377 --> 00:58:23,920
everybody's done everything
at some point.
1323
00:58:23,962 --> 00:58:24,879
- I'm trying
to make it different.
1324
00:58:24,921 --> 00:58:26,089
- Yeah. Follow the leader.
1325
00:58:26,131 --> 00:58:27,924
Follow the leader.
Follow the leader.
1326
00:58:27,966 --> 00:58:30,760
- I was blown away
by how talented he was.
1327
00:58:30,802 --> 00:58:35,098
- See you later! Bye! [laughs]
1328
00:58:35,140 --> 00:58:37,142
Can I see what that
looks like real quick?
1329
00:58:37,183 --> 00:58:41,771
- Windham's brain is just
like a tornado of ideas.
1330
00:58:41,813 --> 00:58:44,315
- Could it be warped somehow?
1331
00:58:44,357 --> 00:58:46,484
- He has so many different
things he wants to do,
1332
00:58:46,526 --> 00:58:47,902
wants to say.
1333
00:58:47,944 --> 00:58:49,946
And it's just so many
different things at once
1334
00:58:49,988 --> 00:58:52,699
that the hard part is
kind of containing it.
1335
00:58:52,741 --> 00:58:54,868
- What about if I deliver
the line before
1336
00:58:54,909 --> 00:58:56,578
while I'm standing
and then the next thing is
1337
00:58:56,619 --> 00:58:58,163
the music's playing
and it's just
1338
00:58:58,204 --> 00:59:00,290
da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da
at the end?
1339
00:59:00,331 --> 00:59:04,169
- All you have to do is...
- Let me in.
1340
00:59:04,210 --> 00:59:06,629
- His range of interests
were so wide.
1341
00:59:06,671 --> 00:59:08,298
He knew something
about everything
1342
00:59:08,340 --> 00:59:09,924
and he drew inspiration
from everything.
1343
00:59:09,966 --> 00:59:11,426
- Oh.
1344
00:59:11,468 --> 00:59:13,887
And I want to introduce you
to some very special friends
1345
00:59:13,928 --> 00:59:15,847
that I've met along the way.
1346
00:59:17,223 --> 00:59:19,434
- A key component
of Windham's vision
1347
00:59:19,476 --> 00:59:23,563
included multiple puppets that
would enhance his character.
1348
00:59:23,605 --> 00:59:26,858
This is my friend
Huskus the Pig Boy.
1349
00:59:26,900 --> 00:59:29,361
- Join us. Join us.
1350
00:59:29,402 --> 00:59:32,614
- Huskus was obviously
a representation of Bray
1351
00:59:32,655 --> 00:59:35,909
and the stuff that he'd gone
through with his weight.
1352
00:59:35,950 --> 00:59:39,913
The Ramblin' Rabbit was
sort of the personification
1353
00:59:39,954 --> 00:59:41,956
of people's opinion of Bray--
of him rambling
1354
00:59:41,998 --> 00:59:44,000
too much in his promos.
1355
00:59:44,042 --> 00:59:45,627
- Oh, OK.
1356
00:59:45,669 --> 00:59:46,961
Yeah.
1357
00:59:47,003 --> 00:59:49,297
- Mercy was a little bit
of an homage
1358
00:59:49,339 --> 00:59:51,383
to Waylon Mercy,
the character that
1359
00:59:51,424 --> 00:59:54,094
Bray drew so much
influence from.
1360
00:59:54,135 --> 00:59:56,554
Abby was Sister Abigail,
an imaginary sister
1361
00:59:56,596 --> 00:59:59,099
of Bray Wyatt in his story.
1362
00:59:59,140 --> 01:00:01,267
- After several weeks
of preparation,
1363
01:00:01,309 --> 01:00:04,854
the Firefly Fun House
premiered in prime time
1364
01:00:04,896 --> 01:00:07,482
on Monday Night Raw.
1365
01:00:07,524 --> 01:00:10,819
[cheers and applause]
1366
01:00:10,860 --> 01:00:12,987
- Did you miss me?
1367
01:00:13,029 --> 01:00:17,033
Oh, how I
have missed you.
1368
01:00:17,075 --> 01:00:18,910
- When I first saw
the Firefly Fun House,
1369
01:00:18,952 --> 01:00:21,913
I remember texting one
of the writers saying,
1370
01:00:21,955 --> 01:00:23,206
this is brilliant.
1371
01:00:23,248 --> 01:00:25,417
- Hi.
1372
01:00:25,458 --> 01:00:27,669
Did you enjoy my little secret?
1373
01:00:27,711 --> 01:00:29,963
- Really enjoyed
the Pee-wee's Playhouse
1374
01:00:30,005 --> 01:00:33,174
take of the Firefly Fun House.
1375
01:00:33,216 --> 01:00:36,261
- Sociopath is
the word of the day.
1376
01:00:36,302 --> 01:00:38,763
Sociopath.
1377
01:00:38,805 --> 01:00:40,807
- He thought of
all that stuff himself.
1378
01:00:40,849 --> 01:00:44,394
Puts himself
in the genius category.
1379
01:00:44,436 --> 01:00:46,104
- Let me in.
1380
01:00:46,146 --> 01:00:49,733
- It was like Mister Rogers
meets Tales from the Crypt.
1381
01:00:52,110 --> 01:00:55,071
- Whenever there was
a Firefly Fun House going on,
1382
01:00:55,113 --> 01:00:58,033
on a screen in the back
as the show is going,
1383
01:00:58,074 --> 01:01:01,161
there would always be a sellout
at one of those monitors
1384
01:01:01,202 --> 01:01:04,372
to see what Bray was going to
do in that Fun House that week.
1385
01:01:04,414 --> 01:01:08,251
- Today, I have something super
serious to talk to you about.
1386
01:01:13,757 --> 01:01:17,218
Exercise!
1387
01:01:17,260 --> 01:01:19,846
- For him to be able to pivot
and all of a sudden go,
1388
01:01:19,888 --> 01:01:20,972
hi, welcome to the Fun House.
1389
01:01:21,014 --> 01:01:22,349
We're going to work out.
1390
01:01:22,390 --> 01:01:26,311
He had the charisma that
so many guys don't have.
1391
01:01:26,353 --> 01:01:29,189
- I really appreciated
the Firefly Fun House
1392
01:01:29,230 --> 01:01:31,608
because it was the public eye's
first opportunity
1393
01:01:31,649 --> 01:01:33,234
to see Windham be silly.
1394
01:01:33,276 --> 01:01:34,444
- Yowie-wowie!
1395
01:01:34,486 --> 01:01:36,571
You found me.
1396
01:01:36,613 --> 01:01:39,616
- Knowing Windham, you knew
it was going to go dark.
1397
01:01:39,657 --> 01:01:41,701
- I will always light the way.
1398
01:01:41,743 --> 01:01:46,539
And all you have to do
is let me in.
1399
01:01:46,581 --> 01:01:48,750
- And it was going to be scary.
1400
01:01:48,792 --> 01:01:51,544
- After months of hosting
the bizarre program,
1401
01:01:51,586 --> 01:01:55,465
in the summer of 2019,
Windham would introduce
1402
01:01:55,507 --> 01:01:58,468
the WWE Universe
to his darker side.
1403
01:01:58,510 --> 01:02:00,303
- As tight as it can go.
1404
01:02:00,345 --> 01:02:01,638
That's perfect.
1405
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,848
Let's go make some nightmares.
1406
01:02:03,890 --> 01:02:05,266
- The Fiend.
1407
01:02:05,308 --> 01:02:07,268
[dramatic music]
1408
01:02:07,310 --> 01:02:09,896
- Yowie-wowie!
1409
01:02:09,938 --> 01:02:13,983
- It was a brand-new character
that lived in Bray's head.
1410
01:02:14,025 --> 01:02:17,737
However, it could take over
Bray's body.
1411
01:02:17,779 --> 01:02:20,240
And then The Fiend became real.
1412
01:02:20,281 --> 01:02:22,951
- The dichotomy of this
sadistic character
1413
01:02:22,992 --> 01:02:26,037
in the children's setup,
it was so bizarre,
1414
01:02:26,079 --> 01:02:27,580
and it felt wrong.
1415
01:02:27,622 --> 01:02:29,416
But it was one of those things
you couldn't look away from.
1416
01:02:30,583 --> 01:02:33,128
- Coming up next
here at SummerSlam,
1417
01:02:33,169 --> 01:02:35,880
it is the in-ring debut
of The Fiend.
1418
01:02:35,922 --> 01:02:38,133
It's Finn Bálor
versus Bray Wyatt,
1419
01:02:38,174 --> 01:02:41,136
who went through this
bizarre transformation
1420
01:02:41,177 --> 01:02:45,807
in a place called
the Firefly Fun House.
1421
01:02:45,849 --> 01:02:47,976
- He showed up on the day
of SummerSlam,
1422
01:02:48,018 --> 01:02:50,603
and I seen what
the character was.
1423
01:02:50,645 --> 01:02:51,855
I just said, oh, wow.
1424
01:02:51,896 --> 01:02:53,440
This is cool.
1425
01:02:53,481 --> 01:02:55,316
- We're seeing so many
different forms
1426
01:02:55,358 --> 01:02:57,944
of intimidation
from The Fiend.
1427
01:02:57,986 --> 01:03:00,697
- This is just disturbing.
1428
01:03:00,739 --> 01:03:02,615
- The thing about
professional wrestling
1429
01:03:02,657 --> 01:03:04,868
is it's one of the only
forms of entertainment
1430
01:03:04,909 --> 01:03:08,455
where you have to do it
live in front of an audience
1431
01:03:08,496 --> 01:03:11,374
with no CGI,
no camera effects.
1432
01:03:11,416 --> 01:03:14,210
So when The Fiend shows up
in the arena
1433
01:03:14,252 --> 01:03:17,797
and he's literally
a horror movie monster,
1434
01:03:17,839 --> 01:03:20,592
I was like,
this is unbelievable.
1435
01:03:20,633 --> 01:03:21,551
- I love it.
1436
01:03:22,552 --> 01:03:23,511
- That's cool.
1437
01:03:24,888 --> 01:03:25,930
- Awesome.
1438
01:03:25,972 --> 01:03:26,973
Happy for you, brother.
1439
01:03:27,015 --> 01:03:28,641
[tense music]
1440
01:03:28,683 --> 01:03:32,771
- The Fiend is
my favorite character
1441
01:03:32,812 --> 01:03:34,522
in WWE, of all time.
1442
01:03:34,564 --> 01:03:39,778
Someone had finally pulled off
a split-personality character.
1443
01:03:39,819 --> 01:03:41,363
- I was like, you genius.
1444
01:03:41,404 --> 01:03:43,740
You just printed $10 million
worth of merchandise overnight.
1445
01:03:43,782 --> 01:03:45,200
[laughs]
1446
01:03:45,241 --> 01:03:49,329
- I'm really excited to see
The Fiend, Bray Wyatt.
1447
01:03:49,371 --> 01:03:51,831
- Seeing all these kids
wearing the mask,
1448
01:03:51,873 --> 01:03:55,251
just the way it captivated
the audience, it was awesome.
1449
01:03:56,461 --> 01:03:58,838
- Within months,
The Fiend's popularity
1450
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,842
skyrocketed and had him on
a collision course
1451
01:04:02,884 --> 01:04:06,846
with an old foe, John Cena.
1452
01:04:06,888 --> 01:04:09,265
[cheers and applause]
1453
01:04:10,725 --> 01:04:13,061
- WrestleMania was
scheduled to take place
1454
01:04:13,103 --> 01:04:15,647
at Raymond James Stadium
in Tampa
1455
01:04:15,689 --> 01:04:17,232
where the Buccaneers play.
1456
01:04:17,273 --> 01:04:21,111
Due to COVID, we were not
able to have the audience
1457
01:04:21,152 --> 01:04:23,530
and be able to have the show
that we wanted to have
1458
01:04:23,571 --> 01:04:24,823
in front of an audience.
1459
01:04:24,864 --> 01:04:27,742
So we had to take it
to the Performance Center,
1460
01:04:27,784 --> 01:04:30,370
where we had been doing TV.
1461
01:04:30,412 --> 01:04:34,290
And The Fiend
did not lend itself
1462
01:04:34,332 --> 01:04:37,043
to be in an empty arena.
1463
01:04:37,085 --> 01:04:41,673
And we were looking for matches
that were unique.
1464
01:04:41,715 --> 01:04:43,591
We just got to thinking
one day and said,
1465
01:04:43,633 --> 01:04:46,594
why don't we have
a Firefly Fun House match?
1466
01:04:46,636 --> 01:04:50,223
- The story of the Firefly
Fun House goes like this.
1467
01:04:50,265 --> 01:04:52,183
We are sitting
in a conference table
1468
01:04:52,225 --> 01:04:53,518
at the NXT Performance Center.
1469
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:54,978
Someone opens the door
and says,
1470
01:04:55,020 --> 01:04:57,063
"You have
a Firefly Fun House match
1471
01:04:57,105 --> 01:04:59,190
at WrestleMania
with Bray Wyatt."
1472
01:04:59,232 --> 01:05:01,151
And I said, well, what's
a Firefly Fun House match?
1473
01:05:01,192 --> 01:05:02,152
They said,
"Well, we don't know."
1474
01:05:02,193 --> 01:05:03,695
I said, [bleep] great.
1475
01:05:06,239 --> 01:05:09,534
This is going to be somethin'.
1476
01:05:11,077 --> 01:05:13,038
I was like, OK,
what story can we tell?
1477
01:05:13,079 --> 01:05:14,456
- There's a world that exists
1478
01:05:14,497 --> 01:05:16,583
beyond the realm
of our comprehension.
1479
01:05:16,624 --> 01:05:19,919
- Like, yo, we can make this
a meta journey.
1480
01:05:19,961 --> 01:05:21,254
So--and the lighting
stays the same.
1481
01:05:21,296 --> 01:05:22,505
And yeah.
- Boom. Boom.
1482
01:05:22,547 --> 01:05:24,966
So basically, this is in
two of the scenes.
1483
01:05:25,008 --> 01:05:26,968
That's in another scene.
That's a scene.
1484
01:05:27,010 --> 01:05:28,595
And then there's a scene
over there.
1485
01:05:28,636 --> 01:05:31,681
- If all I got is rapping,
I'll use it to my advantage,
1486
01:05:31,723 --> 01:05:33,516
'cause I'm like Husky Harris.
1487
01:05:33,558 --> 01:05:35,435
It's a weight
that I can manage.
1488
01:05:35,477 --> 01:05:37,937
Windham immediately channeled
right in, and he got it.
1489
01:05:37,979 --> 01:05:40,106
And he was like, and then we
do this, and then we do this.
1490
01:05:40,148 --> 01:05:42,984
- It's time to rewrite
my own story.
1491
01:05:43,026 --> 01:05:44,736
- No idea was off-limits.
1492
01:05:44,778 --> 01:05:46,196
We start working out.
1493
01:05:46,237 --> 01:05:47,530
And I just start working out,
1494
01:05:47,572 --> 01:05:49,115
and we have to stay there
absurdly long.
1495
01:05:49,157 --> 01:05:50,700
- Yeah.
- [laughs]
1496
01:05:50,742 --> 01:05:52,118
Let me tell you something.
1497
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,704
Any idea
that I relayed to him,
1498
01:05:54,746 --> 01:05:56,498
he could make it better.
1499
01:05:56,539 --> 01:05:59,000
And any idea that he brought
to me, I was willing to do.
1500
01:05:59,042 --> 01:06:00,585
- I need a printout of that.
1501
01:06:00,627 --> 01:06:04,005
And I think yeah, everybody
should have it just
1502
01:06:04,047 --> 01:06:05,590
so you know
where I'm coming from.
1503
01:06:05,632 --> 01:06:09,803
Give it up for John Cena!
1504
01:06:09,844 --> 01:06:11,805
- Watching it back,
you'd think we'd had
1505
01:06:11,846 --> 01:06:13,223
six months to prepare for it.
1506
01:06:13,264 --> 01:06:15,350
But in reality,
it was, like, two days.
1507
01:06:15,392 --> 01:06:17,727
Somehow, it got pulled off.
1508
01:06:17,769 --> 01:06:19,854
- This is going to be spooky.
1509
01:06:19,896 --> 01:06:24,067
- You got to see all of these
different characters
1510
01:06:24,109 --> 01:06:26,986
come to life.
1511
01:06:27,028 --> 01:06:30,532
- It's like a mini-movie.
1512
01:06:30,573 --> 01:06:32,075
- It used to just be
challenging enough
1513
01:06:32,117 --> 01:06:33,785
to do something good.
1514
01:06:33,827 --> 01:06:34,994
That's hard.
1515
01:06:35,036 --> 01:06:36,329
But now in the age of content,
1516
01:06:36,371 --> 01:06:38,832
what's harder is
to do something memorable.
1517
01:06:38,873 --> 01:06:40,417
So full credit.
1518
01:06:40,458 --> 01:06:42,335
Because we're still talking
about it, and we still
1519
01:06:42,377 --> 01:06:45,130
will be talking about it
for years to come.
1520
01:06:48,633 --> 01:06:51,428
- Following the success
of that match,
1521
01:06:51,469 --> 01:06:55,598
fans were introduced
to a new Fun House character.
1522
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:58,184
- He had all these ideas
for me and different ways
1523
01:06:58,226 --> 01:07:00,020
that the character could go.
1524
01:07:00,061 --> 01:07:04,190
Let him in.
1525
01:07:04,232 --> 01:07:07,235
He always had
these off-the-wall ideas
1526
01:07:07,277 --> 01:07:08,611
that once he explained them,
1527
01:07:08,653 --> 01:07:11,448
you're like,
that's freaking genius.
1528
01:07:11,489 --> 01:07:13,408
Do you like my playground?
1529
01:07:13,450 --> 01:07:16,119
[laughs]
1530
01:07:16,161 --> 01:07:18,705
He built this for me.
1531
01:07:18,747 --> 01:07:22,334
He taught me to open my mind
more creatively
1532
01:07:22,375 --> 01:07:24,461
and to step my game up.
1533
01:07:24,502 --> 01:07:27,547
And I had a lot of fun.
1534
01:07:27,589 --> 01:07:29,132
It's fun.
1535
01:07:29,174 --> 01:07:31,134
[laughter]
1536
01:07:31,176 --> 01:07:32,844
That was the best--
1537
01:07:32,886 --> 01:07:35,055
still is the best--
moments of my career.
1538
01:07:35,096 --> 01:07:36,890
- I think we can do
better than that.
1539
01:07:36,931 --> 01:07:38,558
By you--by we, I mean me.
1540
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:40,643
[laughter]
1541
01:07:41,936 --> 01:07:44,064
- Windham's happiness
behind the scenes
1542
01:07:44,105 --> 01:07:45,982
translated on screen.
1543
01:07:46,024 --> 01:07:50,070
But he was about to experience
a heavy loss.
1544
01:07:50,111 --> 01:07:52,655
* *
1545
01:07:55,742 --> 01:07:57,077
[somber music]
1546
01:07:57,118 --> 01:07:59,537
- In December of 2020,
1547
01:07:59,579 --> 01:08:01,748
one of Windham's
closest friends,
1548
01:08:01,790 --> 01:08:07,337
John Huber,
tragically passed away.
1549
01:08:07,379 --> 01:08:09,214
He was 41 years old.
1550
01:08:09,255 --> 01:08:12,467
* *
1551
01:08:12,509 --> 01:08:15,595
- [crying] I didn't want
to believe it was true.
1552
01:08:15,637 --> 01:08:20,767
I don't think my brain let me
do it--let me believe it.
1553
01:08:20,809 --> 01:08:25,230
* *
1554
01:08:25,271 --> 01:08:27,357
I'm struggling.
1555
01:08:27,399 --> 01:08:33,446
* *
1556
01:08:33,488 --> 01:08:38,284
- I know he was hurting a lot.
1557
01:08:38,326 --> 01:08:41,788
Because I know
I was hurting a lot.
1558
01:08:41,830 --> 01:08:44,040
- They were so close.
They were like brothers.
1559
01:08:44,082 --> 01:08:46,835
When you're in a group
together with someone,
1560
01:08:46,876 --> 01:08:49,462
you share so much
of your lives together
1561
01:08:49,504 --> 01:08:52,465
and they talk about their
families and their kids
1562
01:08:52,507 --> 01:08:54,384
and all those things.
1563
01:08:54,426 --> 01:08:57,554
So I know it was
a profound loss for him.
1564
01:08:57,595 --> 01:08:59,973
- I know more than anybody
that no one can fill
1565
01:09:00,015 --> 01:09:03,977
the void that he left behind.
1566
01:09:04,019 --> 01:09:09,232
But I swear to God, I'll try.
1567
01:09:09,274 --> 01:09:11,943
* *
1568
01:09:11,985 --> 01:09:16,573
- He always just carried
the heaviness around.
1569
01:09:16,614 --> 01:09:19,826
And he had a really,
really, really hard time.
1570
01:09:19,868 --> 01:09:22,162
[tense music]
1571
01:09:22,203 --> 01:09:24,414
- Windham struggled
1572
01:09:24,456 --> 01:09:28,501
emotionally
and professionally.
1573
01:09:28,543 --> 01:09:33,214
- Bray was a creative genius
for his characters.
1574
01:09:33,256 --> 01:09:36,468
To work with Bray was
very challenging because--
1575
01:09:36,509 --> 01:09:39,429
I don't think that
Bray came from a bad place,
1576
01:09:39,471 --> 01:09:41,348
but Bray had his visions.
1577
01:09:41,389 --> 01:09:46,144
Bray had what he wanted to do
and Bray would fight you on it.
1578
01:09:46,186 --> 01:09:47,187
- You can't put
the sweatband on?
1579
01:09:47,228 --> 01:09:48,271
- No.
1580
01:09:48,313 --> 01:09:49,606
- What's the transition?
1581
01:09:49,647 --> 01:09:51,107
How do I get to the rabbit?
1582
01:09:51,149 --> 01:09:53,026
- I'm grabbing him now anyway.
1583
01:09:53,068 --> 01:09:54,819
- He didn't like when other
people were getting involved
1584
01:09:54,861 --> 01:09:56,529
and telling him what to do
and telling him
1585
01:09:56,571 --> 01:09:58,365
how the character should act
and how he should speak.
1586
01:09:58,406 --> 01:10:01,326
So it took a toll on him.
1587
01:10:01,368 --> 01:10:03,328
- Bray was
a tremendous success.
1588
01:10:03,370 --> 01:10:04,704
But I think he created
something that was
1589
01:10:04,746 --> 01:10:08,041
larger than another
individual's thought process.
1590
01:10:08,083 --> 01:10:10,627
* *
1591
01:10:10,669 --> 01:10:14,255
- While there's a clear line
between Windham and Bray Wyatt
1592
01:10:14,297 --> 01:10:16,549
and The Fiend
and all those things,
1593
01:10:16,591 --> 01:10:19,636
they're all pieces of him
that he put out there.
1594
01:10:19,678 --> 01:10:22,430
Sort of his heart and soul
out on his sleeve.
1595
01:10:22,472 --> 01:10:24,891
He never stopped
thinking about it.
1596
01:10:24,933 --> 01:10:28,061
- There's something
we're missing here.
1597
01:10:28,103 --> 01:10:30,355
- It's one of the geniuses
of him creatively.
1598
01:10:30,397 --> 01:10:32,065
It's also one of
the things that was
1599
01:10:32,107 --> 01:10:33,983
difficult to work with him on
because he was like
1600
01:10:34,025 --> 01:10:36,569
this whirlwind of ideas
at all times.
1601
01:10:36,611 --> 01:10:39,989
Harnessing him into one thing
got harder and harder--
1602
01:10:40,031 --> 01:10:42,367
keeping him focused
on the one idea
1603
01:10:42,409 --> 01:10:45,912
at hand, getting him
to agree to the idea
1604
01:10:45,954 --> 01:10:48,581
that everybody was working on,
and then stay committed to it
1605
01:10:48,623 --> 01:10:50,542
and not, all of a sudden,
show up one day and go,
1606
01:10:50,583 --> 01:10:52,043
"Guys, I think we're going in
the wrong direction.
1607
01:10:52,085 --> 01:10:53,670
We need to start over here."
1608
01:10:58,508 --> 01:11:01,428
- As the tension grew,
the Bray Wyatt character
1609
01:11:01,469 --> 01:11:05,098
was about to undergo
a drastic change.
1610
01:11:05,140 --> 01:11:08,309
- We had an Inferno match.
1611
01:11:08,351 --> 01:11:11,271
I remember seeing
the look on his face
1612
01:11:11,312 --> 01:11:13,898
as he's getting covered
with just all this goop
1613
01:11:13,940 --> 01:11:16,067
to keep him safe.
1614
01:11:16,109 --> 01:11:18,903
That was a stressful day.
1615
01:11:24,325 --> 01:11:25,660
- So frustrated?
1616
01:11:25,702 --> 01:11:27,787
Yes, to put it lightly.
1617
01:11:28,621 --> 01:11:30,623
- The only way to win is
1618
01:11:30,665 --> 01:11:33,960
to light any part of your
opponent on fire.
1619
01:11:34,002 --> 01:11:36,046
[dramatic music]
1620
01:11:36,087 --> 01:11:37,005
- Oh! The Fiend's on fire!
1621
01:11:37,047 --> 01:11:38,423
- Oh, my God! Orton!
1622
01:11:38,465 --> 01:11:41,009
Orton just lit
The Fiend on fire!
1623
01:11:41,051 --> 01:11:43,345
- He got burned.
1624
01:11:43,386 --> 01:11:47,974
That was extremely
frustrating to him.
1625
01:11:48,016 --> 01:11:49,684
- He was very particular
with his story
1626
01:11:49,726 --> 01:11:51,686
from beginning to end.
1627
01:11:51,728 --> 01:11:55,398
You can't pay off something
if it took a turn.
1628
01:11:55,440 --> 01:11:56,983
He didn't know how to do that.
1629
01:11:57,025 --> 01:11:59,736
And I think that was
very frustrating for him.
1630
01:12:07,327 --> 01:12:09,746
- That was the problem
with the burnt Bray.
1631
01:12:09,788 --> 01:12:14,709
Because you had to have
everything on you burnt
1632
01:12:14,751 --> 01:12:18,338
and melted and smoldering.
1633
01:12:18,380 --> 01:12:20,090
No one thought about that.
1634
01:12:20,131 --> 01:12:23,718
- Let me bring this to you back
when I got this shit off of me.
1635
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:25,261
But we ain't going
to take pictures.
1636
01:12:25,303 --> 01:12:26,888
This is really brutal.
1637
01:12:26,930 --> 01:12:29,432
- All of a sudden now you're
going from wrestling gear
1638
01:12:29,474 --> 01:12:34,437
and a hot mask
to a hot mask and hot gear.
1639
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,023
- I don't know
if I can work like this.
1640
01:12:37,065 --> 01:12:38,525
- It was very difficult
to move in.
1641
01:12:38,566 --> 01:12:39,859
It wasn't as pliable.
1642
01:12:39,901 --> 01:12:43,363
It wasn't as easy to maneuver
and do everything
1643
01:12:43,405 --> 01:12:45,407
that you wanted to do.
1644
01:12:45,448 --> 01:12:47,701
- It moves and turns
when you grab it.
1645
01:12:50,620 --> 01:12:54,374
[soft music]
1646
01:12:54,416 --> 01:12:56,251
- Remember this one.
1647
01:12:56,292 --> 01:12:58,211
- Wild looking at this,
1648
01:12:58,253 --> 01:12:59,713
'cause we both know
1649
01:12:59,754 --> 01:13:02,340
what a hard time
he was having at this point.
1650
01:13:02,382 --> 01:13:03,717
You know, like...
1651
01:13:03,758 --> 01:13:05,969
- You're putting it politely.
1652
01:13:06,011 --> 01:13:08,346
He hated this thing.
1653
01:13:08,388 --> 01:13:10,056
Your brother knew
the responsibility.
1654
01:13:10,098 --> 01:13:12,100
I think it weighed a lot
on him, and it was hard.
1655
01:13:12,142 --> 01:13:14,686
And I felt really bad for him
because I know
1656
01:13:14,728 --> 01:13:17,731
he gave it his all,
he tried 100% to try to carry
1657
01:13:17,772 --> 01:13:20,316
you know, not only his
character and the brand
1658
01:13:20,358 --> 01:13:22,652
and the company and everything,
but it just--
1659
01:13:22,694 --> 01:13:24,112
- It all led
to that WrestleMania.
1660
01:13:24,154 --> 01:13:25,572
- Yeah.
1661
01:13:28,158 --> 01:13:31,119
[dramatic music]
1662
01:13:31,161 --> 01:13:33,830
* *
1663
01:13:33,872 --> 01:13:38,918
- WrestleMania 37,
the first time in over a year
1664
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,880
that the WWE fans
would be in attendance.
1665
01:13:41,921 --> 01:13:44,591
- Who are you excited to see?
1666
01:13:44,632 --> 01:13:47,969
- Mostly The Fiend.
1667
01:13:48,011 --> 01:13:50,472
- I'm really excited
to see Bray Wyatt.
1668
01:13:50,513 --> 01:13:52,098
I like his mind games
that he plays.
1669
01:13:52,140 --> 01:13:55,185
- I want to see The Fiend
go on and burn Randy Orton
1670
01:13:55,226 --> 01:13:56,644
down to the ground.
1671
01:13:56,686 --> 01:13:58,938
* *
1672
01:13:58,980 --> 01:14:01,107
- Yeah, at WrestleMania,
when we finally were
1673
01:14:01,149 --> 01:14:03,943
in front of people,
you see the transformation--
1674
01:14:03,985 --> 01:14:08,573
The Fiend is stepping out
of hell and of that burnt.
1675
01:14:08,615 --> 01:14:12,160
And now you have The Fiend
again, and a pissed-off Fiend.
1676
01:14:12,202 --> 01:14:14,662
It was a way to get back
to The Fiend.
1677
01:14:14,704 --> 01:14:18,416
Because the burn--the whole
outfit didn't work,
1678
01:14:18,458 --> 01:14:21,795
and it was tough
to continue that.
1679
01:14:21,836 --> 01:14:24,547
- And The Fiend
has been restored.
1680
01:14:24,589 --> 01:14:27,300
- I think everyone was
just as excited as we were
1681
01:14:27,342 --> 01:14:28,843
to see the Fiend back,
1682
01:14:28,885 --> 01:14:34,474
and it immediately turned into
I turned on him...
1683
01:14:34,516 --> 01:14:35,809
- What the...
1684
01:14:35,850 --> 01:14:37,686
- Causing him
to lose the match.
1685
01:14:37,727 --> 01:14:40,939
- And now Orton
from behind with an RKO!
1686
01:14:40,980 --> 01:14:45,235
- And it wasn't what
people wanted to see.
1687
01:14:45,276 --> 01:14:47,195
- If you love something that
much and you put that much
1688
01:14:47,237 --> 01:14:52,200
time and effort, you want it
to go the way your vision is.
1689
01:14:52,242 --> 01:14:54,869
And that was, like,
very frustrating for him.
1690
01:14:57,372 --> 01:15:02,002
- At the time, I don't know
exactly what the downfall was.
1691
01:15:02,043 --> 01:15:06,089
Creative minds can often be
misinterpreted very easily.
1692
01:15:06,131 --> 01:15:09,759
So you can begin
to have disagreements
1693
01:15:09,801 --> 01:15:11,886
of how things go,
but it can be interpreted
1694
01:15:11,928 --> 01:15:14,764
in many different ways--
as creative differences
1695
01:15:14,806 --> 01:15:17,350
or he's just difficult
to work with.
1696
01:15:17,392 --> 01:15:18,935
I don't know the exact answer.
1697
01:15:18,977 --> 01:15:21,688
I just know that
it fell apart somehow.
1698
01:15:21,730 --> 01:15:23,273
* *
1699
01:15:23,314 --> 01:15:25,859
- At that time,
WWE was still dealing with
1700
01:15:25,900 --> 01:15:27,360
the fallout of the pandemic.
1701
01:15:27,402 --> 01:15:30,113
And they released
a bunch of superstars,
1702
01:15:30,155 --> 01:15:32,699
one of them being
Windham's brother, Taylor.
1703
01:15:32,741 --> 01:15:34,284
And then a few months later,
1704
01:15:34,325 --> 01:15:38,288
they ended up releasing
Windham as well.
1705
01:15:38,329 --> 01:15:41,291
You just kept clicking, trying
to find the thing that goes,
1706
01:15:41,332 --> 01:15:42,500
no, that was fake.
1707
01:15:42,542 --> 01:15:43,585
That's not true.
1708
01:15:43,626 --> 01:15:44,753
No, of course it's not true.
1709
01:15:44,794 --> 01:15:47,213
- We all were shocked.
1710
01:15:47,255 --> 01:15:51,051
In retrospect, I can look back
and I can look at pictures
1711
01:15:51,092 --> 01:15:54,387
and I'll zoom in on his eyes
and I see it destroyed him.
1712
01:15:54,429 --> 01:15:57,724
That was bad.
1713
01:15:58,767 --> 01:16:02,896
- Aside from being invested in
his family and his children,
1714
01:16:02,937 --> 01:16:05,899
wrestling was his life
and that was his art
1715
01:16:05,940 --> 01:16:07,817
and that was his outlet.
1716
01:16:07,859 --> 01:16:11,196
And all of a sudden,
instantaneously was--
1717
01:16:11,237 --> 01:16:14,449
that's supposed
to be just gone?
1718
01:16:14,491 --> 01:16:17,077
- For the first time
in over a decade,
1719
01:16:17,118 --> 01:16:20,163
Windham was not part of WWE.
1720
01:16:23,958 --> 01:16:29,381
In its place,
he found a new passion.
1721
01:16:29,422 --> 01:16:31,091
- So we're here in our home.
1722
01:16:31,132 --> 01:16:35,428
And this room, in particular,
was Windham's art room.
1723
01:16:35,470 --> 01:16:39,724
It was his space where
he created a lot of his magic.
1724
01:16:39,766 --> 01:16:43,770
And it has been untouched
since he's been here.
1725
01:16:43,812 --> 01:16:45,438
So this is it.
1726
01:16:45,480 --> 01:16:48,274
This is the mind of Windham.
1727
01:16:48,316 --> 01:16:52,278
The first piece he did,
and it's of me.
1728
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:53,571
[laughs]
1729
01:16:53,613 --> 01:16:54,948
So it's one of the first pieces
1730
01:16:54,989 --> 01:16:56,449
he actually completed.
1731
01:16:56,491 --> 01:16:58,451
And it's spray paint.
1732
01:16:58,493 --> 01:16:59,619
[soft music]
1733
01:16:59,661 --> 01:17:00,829
This one right here,
1734
01:17:00,870 --> 01:17:02,872
it's Kendyl and Cadyn.
1735
01:17:02,914 --> 01:17:04,416
He wanted to recreate
the picture that he had
1736
01:17:04,457 --> 01:17:06,292
in his phone of his girls.
1737
01:17:06,334 --> 01:17:08,211
And it's a beautiful picture
of them standing
1738
01:17:08,253 --> 01:17:09,838
like that in the street.
1739
01:17:09,879 --> 01:17:15,135
He was in the middle of doing
this as a gift for them.
1740
01:17:15,176 --> 01:17:18,763
I don't know if he ever
truly felt like
1741
01:17:18,805 --> 01:17:20,473
anything was quite finished.
1742
01:17:20,515 --> 01:17:21,808
[laughs]
1743
01:17:21,850 --> 01:17:23,685
He did this over a course
of two years.
1744
01:17:23,727 --> 01:17:24,978
He kept working on this--
1745
01:17:25,020 --> 01:17:26,730
stopping, starting over.
1746
01:17:26,771 --> 01:17:28,189
But he always kept that part,
1747
01:17:28,231 --> 01:17:29,983
which I thought was
really cool.
1748
01:17:30,025 --> 01:17:32,527
And he kept it because
I told him how much I loved it.
1749
01:17:32,569 --> 01:17:34,821
I was like, oh, I love
those eyes, the face.
1750
01:17:34,863 --> 01:17:36,406
I said,
you did so good with that.
1751
01:17:36,448 --> 01:17:37,866
And he always kept it,
1752
01:17:37,907 --> 01:17:40,326
which I thought was
really cool.
1753
01:17:40,368 --> 01:17:43,163
This one hung in our home
in St. Pete.
1754
01:17:43,204 --> 01:17:47,709
And it reminds me a lot
of when we got engaged.
1755
01:17:47,751 --> 01:17:53,006
He surprised me by getting down
on one knee in St. Pete Pier.
1756
01:17:53,048 --> 01:17:55,633
So this art really ties in.
1757
01:17:55,675 --> 01:17:59,346
They're pieces that I won't
let go of ever in my life
1758
01:17:59,387 --> 01:18:01,890
because it reminds me
of that time.
1759
01:18:01,931 --> 01:18:03,683
* *
1760
01:18:03,725 --> 01:18:08,271
- 100% art is where he really
just threw himself into that,
1761
01:18:08,313 --> 01:18:09,564
and he loved it.
1762
01:18:09,606 --> 01:18:11,441
Just always, oh, come do
this with me and let me
1763
01:18:11,483 --> 01:18:14,986
show you this latest thing
I'm trying out.
1764
01:18:15,028 --> 01:18:16,863
- Next thing you know,
he would be showing us
1765
01:18:16,905 --> 01:18:18,281
these paintings.
1766
01:18:18,323 --> 01:18:19,949
Then we're like, you did that?
1767
01:18:19,991 --> 01:18:21,618
I cannot believe you did that.
1768
01:18:21,659 --> 01:18:23,620
He's like, I've been working on
this for three nights in a row.
1769
01:18:23,661 --> 01:18:26,539
[laughs] Go to sleep.
1770
01:18:26,581 --> 01:18:28,958
It was amazing
to see, once again,
1771
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:30,251
this anomaly of a human.
1772
01:18:30,293 --> 01:18:31,544
When he invested
into something
1773
01:18:31,586 --> 01:18:32,712
that he was going to do,
1774
01:18:32,754 --> 01:18:34,756
it was going to be phenomenal.
1775
01:18:36,132 --> 01:18:39,094
[light twangy music]
1776
01:18:39,135 --> 01:18:42,097
- While he immersed himself
in his art,
1777
01:18:42,138 --> 01:18:45,016
Windham also started filming
a reality TV pilot
1778
01:18:45,058 --> 01:18:46,434
with his brother.
1779
01:18:46,476 --> 01:18:50,230
* *
1780
01:18:50,271 --> 01:18:52,357
- [laughs]
1781
01:18:52,399 --> 01:18:55,652
Can I touch it?
- Yeah. Yeah.
1782
01:18:55,694 --> 01:18:58,613
- We got the opportunity
to go shoot a pilot
1783
01:18:58,655 --> 01:19:00,532
hunting monsters and cryptids
1784
01:19:00,573 --> 01:19:03,326
and conspiracy theories
and going after cults.
1785
01:19:03,368 --> 01:19:05,954
- I can't believe
we're in here, man.
1786
01:19:05,995 --> 01:19:07,288
- Our whole lives,
we've always been into
1787
01:19:07,330 --> 01:19:09,165
the odd things in the world.
1788
01:19:09,207 --> 01:19:10,959
- When I was a little kid,
when you watched, like,
1789
01:19:11,001 --> 01:19:12,377
"The Goonies"
and all that stuff,
1790
01:19:12,419 --> 01:19:14,754
I remember thinking,
oh, man, that's so cool.
1791
01:19:14,796 --> 01:19:16,798
I would love to just go around
with my friends one day
1792
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:18,091
and do that.
1793
01:19:18,133 --> 01:19:22,345
So this is how
horror movies end.
1794
01:19:22,387 --> 01:19:25,849
- The more we hung out
and started working on that,
1795
01:19:25,890 --> 01:19:27,100
the more it kind of morphed
1796
01:19:27,142 --> 01:19:29,686
back into talking
about wrestling.
1797
01:19:29,728 --> 01:19:32,272
- I dive in and I think
about it to the point
1798
01:19:32,313 --> 01:19:34,149
where it almost makes me nuts.
1799
01:19:34,190 --> 01:19:37,110
- We got excited again
and realized maybe
1800
01:19:37,152 --> 01:19:38,445
we don't want to do this.
1801
01:19:38,486 --> 01:19:40,613
Maybe we want to go
back and wrestle.
1802
01:19:40,655 --> 01:19:42,949
The more we talked,
the more we collaborated,
1803
01:19:42,991 --> 01:19:45,869
the more we needed
to make it back.
1804
01:19:45,910 --> 01:19:50,331
- In the summer of 2022,
after a year away from WWE,
1805
01:19:50,373 --> 01:19:54,544
Windham started talking about
making a return to the ring.
1806
01:19:54,586 --> 01:20:01,051
- There is not a lock
on the door to the WWE.
1807
01:20:01,092 --> 01:20:06,431
And I think the audience was
craving some Bray Wyatt.
1808
01:20:06,473 --> 01:20:10,310
- From the first time I got on
the phone with him to discuss,
1809
01:20:10,352 --> 01:20:12,437
do you want to come back--
1810
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:15,023
like, hey, I'd love
for you to come home.
1811
01:20:15,065 --> 01:20:17,317
And his part,
hey, I'd love to be home.
1812
01:20:17,359 --> 01:20:20,070
I think that very first
conversation we had,
1813
01:20:20,111 --> 01:20:23,198
it went from, hey,
what are you thinking
1814
01:20:23,239 --> 01:20:25,367
about potentially coming back
1815
01:20:25,408 --> 01:20:28,995
to us riffing ideas
for an hour and a half.
1816
01:20:29,037 --> 01:20:30,288
- He wasn't done.
1817
01:20:30,330 --> 01:20:32,207
He wanted to fix things
about his legacy
1818
01:20:32,248 --> 01:20:34,209
and he didn't want
to go out unexpectedly.
1819
01:20:34,250 --> 01:20:38,672
He had a lot more stories
to tell the WWE Universe.
1820
01:20:38,713 --> 01:20:40,131
- He was in the gym a lot.
1821
01:20:40,173 --> 01:20:42,133
Like, three, four hours a day.
1822
01:20:42,175 --> 01:20:44,886
He really busted his ass.
1823
01:20:44,928 --> 01:20:50,350
- In the fall of 2022,
Windham, now 35 years old,
1824
01:20:50,392 --> 01:20:53,645
was preparing for his return.
1825
01:20:53,687 --> 01:20:55,522
- He was coming back.
1826
01:20:55,563 --> 01:20:56,731
He was working for it.
1827
01:20:56,773 --> 01:20:59,150
[tense music]
1828
01:20:59,192 --> 01:21:01,695
- So when Windham was
negotiating with WWE
1829
01:21:01,736 --> 01:21:03,363
to make his return,
1830
01:21:03,405 --> 01:21:07,617
he reached out to TJ
and asked TJ,
1831
01:21:07,659 --> 01:21:09,494
hey, I need you
to keep this to yourself,
1832
01:21:09,536 --> 01:21:12,038
but would you and Natty
be OK if I started
1833
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,374
coming down to your ring?
1834
01:21:14,416 --> 01:21:16,543
- Bray was super motivated
at that time.
1835
01:21:16,584 --> 01:21:19,170
I did want to gauge
where he was mentally.
1836
01:21:19,212 --> 01:21:20,338
And he said, TJ, I know.
1837
01:21:20,380 --> 01:21:22,507
He said, I'm super excited.
1838
01:21:22,549 --> 01:21:26,094
And he went from it being
kind of a private thing to him
1839
01:21:26,136 --> 01:21:28,263
going around and giving
each person specific,
1840
01:21:28,304 --> 01:21:30,098
individualized advice.
1841
01:21:30,140 --> 01:21:32,100
That just shows you
how his brain was working
1842
01:21:32,142 --> 01:21:34,310
from a creative standpoint.
1843
01:21:34,352 --> 01:21:35,603
- You could just feel
that excitement.
1844
01:21:35,645 --> 01:21:37,605
You felt, like,
that childlike wonder.
1845
01:21:37,647 --> 01:21:39,983
He really wanted to get in
the best shape of his life
1846
01:21:40,025 --> 01:21:42,444
and he wanted this
to be his best run ever.
1847
01:21:42,485 --> 01:21:45,780
- He started talking to me
about what my ideas were
1848
01:21:45,822 --> 01:21:47,157
and if I should go back.
1849
01:21:47,198 --> 01:21:50,827
And I decided I was going
to pursue a conversation
1850
01:21:50,869 --> 01:21:54,372
with the company again
to see where I would stand
1851
01:21:54,414 --> 01:21:57,417
and started getting
excited again
1852
01:21:57,459 --> 01:22:01,129
like it was my first time
getting into the ring again.
1853
01:22:01,171 --> 01:22:04,883
- About the same time
I brought into the company
1854
01:22:04,924 --> 01:22:07,344
a guy named Rob Fee.
1855
01:22:07,385 --> 01:22:09,846
- I met with Hunter and Bray.
1856
01:22:09,888 --> 01:22:12,557
If I would ask him
a question and be like, hey,
1857
01:22:12,599 --> 01:22:15,060
what do you think about this
thing, an hour and a half
1858
01:22:15,101 --> 01:22:17,812
later of completely
off-the-wall ideas,
1859
01:22:17,854 --> 01:22:19,606
we'd land on something.
1860
01:22:19,647 --> 01:22:22,984
And I'm like, man, if he's
bringing this energy back
1861
01:22:23,026 --> 01:22:27,447
to WWE, it's going to be
a wild ride.
1862
01:22:27,489 --> 01:22:31,117
- It sort of started this kind
of three-way collaboration
1863
01:22:31,159 --> 01:22:33,078
on this project.
1864
01:22:33,119 --> 01:22:35,830
And Bray would
call us both and say,
1865
01:22:35,872 --> 01:22:38,041
hey, I have this idea.
1866
01:22:42,170 --> 01:22:45,131
[tense music]
1867
01:22:45,173 --> 01:22:51,680
* *
1868
01:22:51,721 --> 01:22:52,806
- Who...
- Killed...
1869
01:22:52,847 --> 01:22:55,266
- The...
- World?
1870
01:22:56,267 --> 01:22:58,895
- You...
- Did.
1871
01:22:58,937 --> 01:23:03,983
- We started coming up with
all these crazy, Easter-eggy--
1872
01:23:04,025 --> 01:23:09,322
like, how could we riff these
ideas to lead to this return?
1873
01:23:09,364 --> 01:23:11,574
That was me, Bray.
1874
01:23:11,616 --> 01:23:15,370
And Rob was
really instrumental.
1875
01:23:15,412 --> 01:23:20,500
- It was Bray coming up with
crazy bits of lore.
1876
01:23:20,542 --> 01:23:23,003
Then he'd be like, here,
make this into something.
1877
01:23:23,044 --> 01:23:28,633
- Friday Night SmackDown!
1878
01:23:28,675 --> 01:23:31,720
- Brought up
the first QR code.
1879
01:23:31,761 --> 01:23:35,015
It led to a puzzle.
1880
01:23:35,056 --> 01:23:36,349
I believe viewership was up
1881
01:23:36,391 --> 01:23:39,102
25% because people were
1882
01:23:39,144 --> 01:23:42,480
so excited to see
what this was leading to.
1883
01:23:42,522 --> 01:23:45,692
- The White Rabbit teases
are all that
1884
01:23:45,734 --> 01:23:48,236
any wrestling fan wants
to talk about.
1885
01:23:48,278 --> 01:23:51,614
It was so vague
and complicated that
1886
01:23:51,656 --> 01:23:57,370
it allowed us to just speculate
wildly for weeks at a time.
1887
01:23:57,412 --> 01:23:59,456
- We did rabbits in the crowd.
1888
01:23:59,497 --> 01:24:02,417
We had latitude and longitudes
1889
01:24:02,459 --> 01:24:04,419
in Italy that if you
1890
01:24:04,461 --> 01:24:05,420
viewed it from overhead,
1891
01:24:05,462 --> 01:24:07,881
was this giant pink bunny.
1892
01:24:07,922 --> 01:24:10,842
All the clues were just enough
to where it felt like
1893
01:24:10,884 --> 01:24:14,137
a Bray thing,
but it wasn't for sure.
1894
01:24:14,179 --> 01:24:17,349
The final one we did,
fire shoots out
1895
01:24:17,390 --> 01:24:19,809
and it brings up the date
of Extreme Rules.
1896
01:24:19,851 --> 01:24:22,312
'Cause we were like,
at this point, you know,
1897
01:24:22,354 --> 01:24:24,314
let's stop [bleep] with them
and just show them
1898
01:24:24,356 --> 01:24:26,274
exactly what it is.
1899
01:24:28,068 --> 01:24:32,238
- October 8, 2022.
1900
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:36,242
The day had finally arrived.
1901
01:24:36,284 --> 01:24:43,208
After 15 months,
Windham was home.
1902
01:24:43,249 --> 01:24:45,377
- I didn't know I could draw
a year ago.
1903
01:24:45,418 --> 01:24:47,253
You want to see something cool?
1904
01:24:47,295 --> 01:24:49,005
I was really proud of this.
1905
01:24:49,047 --> 01:24:52,342
It's the first time
I ever did this by myself.
1906
01:24:52,384 --> 01:24:54,928
This is the concept art.
1907
01:24:54,969 --> 01:24:57,597
Sitting at home for a year
by yourself and painting
1908
01:24:57,639 --> 01:25:00,350
and kind of, you know,
thinking about these things
1909
01:25:00,392 --> 01:25:02,602
and designing all these ideas
1910
01:25:02,644 --> 01:25:05,271
that I'm dreaming of--one day,
maybe we can get a chance
1911
01:25:05,313 --> 01:25:06,898
to do this stuff--
1912
01:25:06,940 --> 01:25:11,861
it's such a cool feeling
to be on the cusp of it.
1913
01:25:11,903 --> 01:25:14,447
This is always the most
exciting part for me,
1914
01:25:14,489 --> 01:25:16,908
this joy you get from creating.
1915
01:25:16,950 --> 01:25:19,953
And you're stressing me out
hovering over me
1916
01:25:19,994 --> 01:25:21,121
now that I'm doing it.
1917
01:25:21,162 --> 01:25:24,082
This is how I keep calm
1918
01:25:24,124 --> 01:25:26,876
kind of in
stressful situations.
1919
01:25:26,918 --> 01:25:28,378
[tense music]
1920
01:25:28,420 --> 01:25:31,172
- He was nervous, for sure.
1921
01:25:31,214 --> 01:25:33,299
I was not there
for Extreme Rules.
1922
01:25:33,341 --> 01:25:35,135
But I remember
he would call me
1923
01:25:35,176 --> 01:25:36,803
and he'd just be like, ugh.
1924
01:25:36,845 --> 01:25:40,890
He'd pace back
and forth constantly.
1925
01:25:40,932 --> 01:25:41,891
He was like, I can't.
1926
01:25:41,933 --> 01:25:42,976
I just can't right now.
1927
01:25:43,018 --> 01:25:44,144
And I'm like, OK.
1928
01:25:44,185 --> 01:25:47,939
But just to make sure
that it was
1929
01:25:47,981 --> 01:25:50,650
done the way
he wanted it to be done
1930
01:25:50,692 --> 01:25:53,278
was so much pressure on him
that it made him nervous.
1931
01:25:53,319 --> 01:25:55,947
He's like,
I got to do this right.
1932
01:25:55,989 --> 01:25:57,449
- I always think, oh, no,
1933
01:25:57,490 --> 01:25:58,825
so this person is not
going to like this.
1934
01:25:58,867 --> 01:26:01,619
This person is not
going to like that.
1935
01:26:03,872 --> 01:26:05,373
[booming]
1936
01:26:05,415 --> 01:26:12,339
- 15,944 WWE fans
are here tonight.
1937
01:26:12,380 --> 01:26:16,426
We are sold out
for Extreme Rules.
1938
01:26:16,468 --> 01:26:18,136
- I remember Hunter came
on the bus and was like,
1939
01:26:18,178 --> 01:26:19,888
we just think it'd be
kind of cool to just
1940
01:26:19,929 --> 01:26:22,349
show your characters
just sort of invaded back
1941
01:26:22,390 --> 01:26:23,850
into the world of WWE.
1942
01:26:23,892 --> 01:26:26,311
And we're like, yeah,
sounds like a plan.
1943
01:26:26,353 --> 01:26:28,772
Bruce and Hunter are like,
we want The Fiend, as well.
1944
01:26:28,813 --> 01:26:31,399
We were just going to grab
a random extra or somebody.
1945
01:26:31,441 --> 01:26:32,817
And Windham goes, "No.
1946
01:26:32,859 --> 01:26:35,028
"Jason, you're
the only person I trust
1947
01:26:35,070 --> 01:26:37,947
and you're the only person
that deserves to do it."
1948
01:26:37,989 --> 01:26:40,241
- You got this, man.
1949
01:26:40,283 --> 01:26:41,826
[laughs]
1950
01:26:41,868 --> 01:26:45,163
- The honor is definitely
not lost on me.
1951
01:26:45,205 --> 01:26:48,583
- You only get this a couple
times in your life, you know?
1952
01:26:48,625 --> 01:26:51,252
The feeling of pure bliss,
you know?
1953
01:26:51,294 --> 01:26:52,337
The nerves.
1954
01:26:52,379 --> 01:26:54,297
The bliss.
1955
01:26:54,339 --> 01:26:55,924
It's pretty wild, man.
1956
01:27:02,764 --> 01:27:05,058
I want to show everybody
what all the hard work is,
1957
01:27:05,100 --> 01:27:06,518
you know?
1958
01:27:06,559 --> 01:27:08,770
It's time, bro.
1959
01:27:09,562 --> 01:27:13,233
- Windham emerged
just 15 minutes before
1960
01:27:13,274 --> 01:27:15,902
his long-awaited return.
1961
01:27:19,906 --> 01:27:22,325
- They knew something was
going to happen on the show.
1962
01:27:22,367 --> 01:27:25,203
And this was after
the main event.
1963
01:27:25,245 --> 01:27:27,080
So you know, they're like,
did we miss something?
1964
01:27:27,122 --> 01:27:28,415
Was it wrong?
1965
01:27:28,456 --> 01:27:30,041
The logo comes up
at the bottom.
1966
01:27:30,083 --> 01:27:31,626
You think the show's over.
1967
01:27:33,169 --> 01:27:37,549
[cheers and applause]
1968
01:27:37,590 --> 01:27:40,677
- Corey, are we still
on the air?
1969
01:27:41,302 --> 01:27:45,140
- * He's got the whole world *
1970
01:27:45,181 --> 01:27:47,017
[crowd roaring]
1971
01:27:47,058 --> 01:27:49,269
* In his hands *
1972
01:27:49,310 --> 01:27:50,395
[eerie music]
1973
01:27:50,437 --> 01:27:53,106
- God, what the--
1974
01:27:53,148 --> 01:27:58,278
- * He's got
the whole wide world *
1975
01:27:58,319 --> 01:28:01,364
* In his hands *
1976
01:28:01,406 --> 01:28:03,742
* *
1977
01:28:03,783 --> 01:28:06,911
* He's got the whole world *
1978
01:28:06,953 --> 01:28:12,500
* In his hands *
1979
01:28:12,542 --> 01:28:16,880
* He's got the whole world *
1980
01:28:16,921 --> 01:28:19,549
[dramatic music]
1981
01:28:19,591 --> 01:28:21,676
* *
1982
01:28:21,718 --> 01:28:25,513
[cheers and applause]
1983
01:28:29,559 --> 01:28:33,104
all: Holy shit!
Holy shit! Holy shit!
1984
01:28:33,146 --> 01:28:37,150
Holy shit! Holy shit!
1985
01:28:37,192 --> 01:28:40,070
[crowd roaring]
1986
01:28:49,079 --> 01:28:52,582
[soft music]
1987
01:28:52,624 --> 01:28:54,167
- I don't think
I've ever experienced
1988
01:28:54,209 --> 01:28:56,169
a sensation quite like that.
1989
01:28:56,211 --> 01:28:58,213
I felt like I was just
hovering out there--
1990
01:28:58,254 --> 01:28:59,839
like I wasn't walking.
1991
01:28:59,881 --> 01:29:02,926
I've never felt
anything like it.
1992
01:29:02,967 --> 01:29:05,804
Bro, I seriously--like,
I'm on [bleep] edge right now.
1993
01:29:05,845 --> 01:29:09,432
I feel like I was just almost
in a car wreck, you know?
1994
01:29:09,474 --> 01:29:11,017
Holy shit.
1995
01:29:11,059 --> 01:29:13,645
- It literally blew the effing
roof off the place.
1996
01:29:13,687 --> 01:29:15,230
And I was like, holy cow.
1997
01:29:15,271 --> 01:29:17,691
It was a sight for sore eyes.
1998
01:29:17,732 --> 01:29:19,401
[laughs]
1999
01:29:19,442 --> 01:29:21,820
- We're going to make this way
bigger than it's ever been,
2000
01:29:21,861 --> 01:29:23,947
all right?
- I'm down.
2001
01:29:23,988 --> 01:29:26,533
- When you talk about blowing
the roof off of a place--
2002
01:29:26,574 --> 01:29:29,244
they may still be trying
to put it back on.
2003
01:29:29,285 --> 01:29:32,372
It was an explosion
when Bray returned.
2004
01:29:32,414 --> 01:29:33,790
They knew.
2005
01:29:33,832 --> 01:29:36,918
They wanted it,
then they got it.
2006
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:38,461
* *
2007
01:29:38,503 --> 01:29:40,880
- Not everybody gets to spend
their 40th birthday
2008
01:29:40,922 --> 01:29:42,882
dressing up
as their best friend
2009
01:29:42,924 --> 01:29:44,509
and helping them
come back to their job.
2010
01:29:44,551 --> 01:29:49,264
* *
2011
01:29:49,305 --> 01:29:51,391
- Biggest thing in wrestling
in a very, very long time.
2012
01:29:51,433 --> 01:29:52,517
- Yeah.
2013
01:29:52,559 --> 01:29:54,185
I've never heard anything
2014
01:29:54,227 --> 01:29:56,479
that loud in my life.
2015
01:29:56,521 --> 01:29:57,731
It was insane.
2016
01:29:57,772 --> 01:30:00,233
- It was so cool.
It's just wild.
2017
01:30:00,275 --> 01:30:05,905
And just seeing this jacket
and his re-debut, coming back.
2018
01:30:05,947 --> 01:30:11,244
And he sparked a fire
under me like I never felt.
2019
01:30:11,286 --> 01:30:13,705
And it was all him.
2020
01:30:13,747 --> 01:30:15,415
- Part of professional
wrestling is
2021
01:30:15,457 --> 01:30:16,666
the theater of the mind.
2022
01:30:16,708 --> 01:30:19,210
It's to take you away
from reality.
2023
01:30:19,252 --> 01:30:21,254
And when you have a character
that you look forward
2024
01:30:21,296 --> 01:30:23,214
to seeing each week
and then they're gone,
2025
01:30:23,256 --> 01:30:25,133
you can't wait
to have that back.
2026
01:30:25,175 --> 01:30:28,011
There was something about him
that made people feel better.
2027
01:30:28,053 --> 01:30:31,389
And people missed
seeing that on TV.
2028
01:30:31,431 --> 01:30:34,559
[crowd chanting]
2029
01:30:40,190 --> 01:30:41,941
- [laughs]
2030
01:30:41,983 --> 01:30:43,735
I don't know if y'all
can read this on me,
2031
01:30:43,777 --> 01:30:47,113
but I am incredibly grateful.
2032
01:30:47,155 --> 01:30:50,075
And I'm really, really
nervous to be here.
2033
01:30:50,116 --> 01:30:51,993
I never thought that
this would happen.
2034
01:30:52,035 --> 01:30:53,953
[cheering]
2035
01:30:53,995 --> 01:30:55,997
[laughs]
2036
01:30:58,667 --> 01:31:01,252
This right here,
this is just me, OK?
2037
01:31:01,294 --> 01:31:03,963
This is a version of me
that I've never
2038
01:31:04,005 --> 01:31:06,758
got to introduce
to you guys before.
2039
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:09,302
This is just me being me--
2040
01:31:09,344 --> 01:31:11,930
genuine me--for the first time.
2041
01:31:15,016 --> 01:31:16,893
- I felt like people were
just so grateful for him
2042
01:31:16,935 --> 01:31:18,228
and grateful to have him back.
2043
01:31:18,269 --> 01:31:20,980
And then that promo where
he was just kind of raw
2044
01:31:21,022 --> 01:31:25,443
and spoke more as Windham was
so unique and so different.
2045
01:31:25,485 --> 01:31:29,197
- I can sit here right now
today and I can look all of you
2046
01:31:29,239 --> 01:31:32,409
in the eyes and I can say
that you were there
2047
01:31:32,450 --> 01:31:36,329
when I was weak, when I was
vulnerable, when I was down.
2048
01:31:36,371 --> 01:31:39,290
So I just wanted
to say thank you.
2049
01:31:39,332 --> 01:31:42,627
You all saved my life.
2050
01:31:42,669 --> 01:31:44,504
[cheers and applause]
2051
01:31:44,546 --> 01:31:46,006
- That's my favorite
Bray Wyatt promo.
2052
01:31:46,047 --> 01:31:48,133
Because not only do
they already love him
2053
01:31:48,174 --> 01:31:50,051
for his commitment
and for everything he's done
2054
01:31:50,093 --> 01:31:51,886
and for the rides
he's taken them on
2055
01:31:51,928 --> 01:31:54,681
with these different
characters all these years,
2056
01:31:54,723 --> 01:31:56,391
now they get to see
a window into him
2057
01:31:56,433 --> 01:31:58,893
as the actual person.
2058
01:31:58,935 --> 01:32:01,187
When he did that promo, I was
like, oh, now we're cooking.
2059
01:32:01,229 --> 01:32:04,190
[crowd chanting]
2060
01:32:11,990 --> 01:32:15,243
- He forgot how much
he meant to people.
2061
01:32:15,285 --> 01:32:18,830
When he got reminded of that
is what I loved.
2062
01:32:18,872 --> 01:32:20,915
[somber music]
2063
01:32:20,957 --> 01:32:23,793
- If I didn't have
such passionate fans,
2064
01:32:23,835 --> 01:32:24,919
I wouldn't be here.
2065
01:32:24,961 --> 01:32:26,504
I really wouldn't.
2066
01:32:26,546 --> 01:32:28,673
- What's the best part
about being a wrestler?
2067
01:32:28,715 --> 01:32:30,884
- The best part is--
2068
01:32:30,925 --> 01:32:32,719
you know,
this may sound corny,
2069
01:32:32,761 --> 01:32:35,305
but it's the truth--
is the fans.
2070
01:32:35,347 --> 01:32:38,892
To have fans that are
so into what I do,
2071
01:32:38,933 --> 01:32:40,810
it feels like it's part
of their life too.
2072
01:32:40,852 --> 01:32:43,646
[laughs]
- Oh, my God.
2073
01:32:43,688 --> 01:32:46,066
- Are you trying to scare me?
2074
01:32:46,107 --> 01:32:48,526
It's them that led me
back here.
2075
01:32:48,568 --> 01:32:50,528
This is the best
I've ever felt.
2076
01:32:50,570 --> 01:32:53,865
* *
2077
01:32:53,907 --> 01:32:56,618
- He felt like he was
getting a second chance,
2078
01:32:56,659 --> 01:32:58,828
and he had a lot
more perspective
2079
01:32:58,870 --> 01:33:00,914
on what that could be.
2080
01:33:00,955 --> 01:33:05,210
And so he was excited
to bring as much of himself
2081
01:33:05,251 --> 01:33:07,379
into that character.
2082
01:33:07,420 --> 01:33:13,301
- Bray wanted to take
the audience on a journey.
2083
01:33:13,343 --> 01:33:14,344
Here I am.
2084
01:33:14,386 --> 01:33:16,262
I'm Windham Rotunda.
2085
01:33:16,304 --> 01:33:19,766
I'm just a regular guy
just like you.
2086
01:33:19,808 --> 01:33:21,309
But yet, I'm different.
2087
01:33:21,351 --> 01:33:23,019
[dramatic music]
2088
01:33:23,061 --> 01:33:27,691
- My emotions, they don't work
like most other people's.
2089
01:33:27,732 --> 01:33:29,317
I don't have control.
2090
01:33:29,359 --> 01:33:34,823
And sometimes, they can send me
to a very, very dark place.
2091
01:33:34,864 --> 01:33:37,575
- Bray Wyatt once had
a family.
2092
01:33:37,617 --> 01:33:40,578
The Fiend had his Fun House.
2093
01:33:40,620 --> 01:33:46,209
But this time,
Windham needed someone else--
2094
01:33:46,251 --> 01:33:49,045
his brother.
2095
01:33:49,087 --> 01:33:51,297
- We wanted to use Taylor
all along.
2096
01:33:51,339 --> 01:33:54,300
And I thought it was
a pretty cool concept.
2097
01:33:54,342 --> 01:33:56,469
- The whole thing came
from this nightmare
2098
01:33:56,511 --> 01:33:58,304
that he used to have
when he was a child
2099
01:33:58,346 --> 01:34:00,390
that would haunt him
in his dreams.
2100
01:34:00,432 --> 01:34:02,684
That was the catalyst
to create
2101
01:34:02,726 --> 01:34:04,269
the Uncle Howdy look
and design.
2102
01:34:04,310 --> 01:34:07,188
* *
2103
01:34:07,230 --> 01:34:10,650
- To be able to freely work
with him for the first time
2104
01:34:10,692 --> 01:34:14,779
as colleagues and as brothers,
it was like a dream come true.
2105
01:34:14,821 --> 01:34:16,197
Windham had already
accomplished
2106
01:34:16,239 --> 01:34:18,533
the most unbelievable things
2107
01:34:18,575 --> 01:34:20,160
you could do in this business.
2108
01:34:20,201 --> 01:34:24,539
And his only goal left
was to do it together.
2109
01:34:24,581 --> 01:34:26,166
[somber music]
2110
01:34:26,207 --> 01:34:30,045
We were both becoming
monsters.
2111
01:34:30,086 --> 01:34:33,131
I was going to work just
to hang out with my brother.
2112
01:34:33,173 --> 01:34:35,175
That was my job.
2113
01:34:35,216 --> 01:34:39,095
You know,
and to play with my brother.
2114
01:34:39,137 --> 01:34:40,680
- What is that thing?
2115
01:34:40,722 --> 01:34:43,725
- Oh, that's Uncle Howdy.
2116
01:34:44,726 --> 01:34:47,771
- Being two little kids again,
developing the characters,
2117
01:34:47,812 --> 01:34:50,065
and coming up
with ideas for them
2118
01:34:50,106 --> 01:34:53,443
to be able to work together
and complement each other
2119
01:34:53,485 --> 01:34:55,737
was awesome.
2120
01:34:55,779 --> 01:34:59,491
- Uncle Howdy just launched
himself off the top!
2121
01:35:01,076 --> 01:35:03,787
- We're going to be
in WrestleMania together.
2122
01:35:03,828 --> 01:35:06,539
We always had that dream.
2123
01:35:06,581 --> 01:35:09,959
And that dream never changed.
2124
01:35:10,001 --> 01:35:13,713
It only got stronger
and more real.
2125
01:35:13,755 --> 01:35:17,842
That time period where
we were working together...
2126
01:35:17,884 --> 01:35:20,136
- And Sister Abigail!
2127
01:35:20,178 --> 01:35:22,889
- It meant everything to me.
2128
01:35:22,931 --> 01:35:24,933
- You're welcome, Montreal.
2129
01:35:24,974 --> 01:35:27,602
[cheers and applause]
2130
01:35:27,644 --> 01:35:29,479
- It was too good to be true.
2131
01:35:29,521 --> 01:35:31,481
* *
2132
01:35:31,523 --> 01:35:32,982
- All of a sudden,
he had this, like,
2133
01:35:33,024 --> 01:35:34,984
second lease on life.
2134
01:35:35,026 --> 01:35:37,278
Man, it came out
of everything he did--
2135
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:38,863
the joy of it.
2136
01:35:38,905 --> 01:35:43,243
And you know, as we were doing
it, sometimes, we would talk,
2137
01:35:43,284 --> 01:35:46,663
and then we'd get done
an hour of creative whatever.
2138
01:35:46,705 --> 01:35:48,873
And then he'd call me back
two seconds later and be like,
2139
01:35:48,915 --> 01:35:50,917
hey, man, I just want you to
know how much this means to me
2140
01:35:50,959 --> 01:35:52,335
and how much fun I'm having.
2141
01:35:52,377 --> 01:35:54,963
And it made me want
to work harder for him.
2142
01:35:55,005 --> 01:35:56,881
It made me want to run
through a wall for him
2143
01:35:56,923 --> 01:35:59,926
to get this stuff done and to
get it where it needed to be.
2144
01:35:59,968 --> 01:36:03,013
[tense music]
2145
01:36:03,054 --> 01:36:07,642
- February 26, 2023.
2146
01:36:07,684 --> 01:36:09,602
- Here I'm getting to stand
across from a guy
2147
01:36:09,644 --> 01:36:15,066
who had really built a name
and a whole aura for himself.
2148
01:36:15,108 --> 01:36:17,902
That's huge.
2149
01:36:17,944 --> 01:36:20,947
He said that his calf
or his knee started to, like,
2150
01:36:20,989 --> 01:36:22,032
seize up or something.
2151
01:36:22,073 --> 01:36:23,033
And I was like, are you good?
2152
01:36:23,074 --> 01:36:24,367
Are you good?
2153
01:36:24,409 --> 01:36:25,952
And it was just like,
all right, well,
2154
01:36:25,994 --> 01:36:28,038
we were trying to work
as best we could
2155
01:36:28,079 --> 01:36:30,081
to kind of protect him.
2156
01:36:32,334 --> 01:36:34,878
- Nobody knew at the time--
2157
01:36:34,919 --> 01:36:37,672
not even Windham Rotunda--
2158
01:36:37,714 --> 01:36:42,552
that he had just completed
his final match.
2159
01:36:46,014 --> 01:36:46,973
[tense music]
2160
01:36:47,015 --> 01:36:49,309
- March 2023.
2161
01:36:49,351 --> 01:36:51,353
The Bray Wyatt character
was suddenly
2162
01:36:51,394 --> 01:36:55,357
absent from WWE programming.
2163
01:36:55,398 --> 01:36:59,736
- I was at TV and found out
Windham wasn't there.
2164
01:36:59,778 --> 01:37:01,905
And I called him like,
where are you at?
2165
01:37:01,946 --> 01:37:04,616
And he was at home.
He had COVID.
2166
01:37:04,657 --> 01:37:06,701
- He went to the hospital.
2167
01:37:06,743 --> 01:37:08,244
He tested positive for COVID.
2168
01:37:08,286 --> 01:37:09,913
They were like, oh, my God.
They admitted him.
2169
01:37:09,954 --> 01:37:11,498
His heart.
2170
01:37:11,539 --> 01:37:16,503
* *
2171
01:37:16,544 --> 01:37:19,964
He had to go do stress
and echocardiograms
2172
01:37:20,006 --> 01:37:23,176
through this period of time.
2173
01:37:23,218 --> 01:37:24,636
- It was a weakened heart.
2174
01:37:24,678 --> 01:37:27,681
It was like, the way his heart
performed and functioned,
2175
01:37:27,722 --> 01:37:30,725
it was not where
it needed to be.
2176
01:37:30,767 --> 01:37:32,644
It kept making him feel off.
2177
01:37:32,686 --> 01:37:35,647
He kept saying, I feel off.
2178
01:37:35,689 --> 01:37:38,483
- I didn't think
it was that serious.
2179
01:37:38,525 --> 01:37:40,860
I mean, to me,
he's my big brother.
2180
01:37:40,902 --> 01:37:42,696
Nothing can hurt him.
2181
01:37:42,737 --> 01:37:44,322
* *
2182
01:37:44,364 --> 01:37:46,449
- He didn't share
too many details.
2183
01:37:46,491 --> 01:37:48,576
He just always wanted to assure
everybody that he was fine--
2184
01:37:48,618 --> 01:37:50,036
I'm fine.
2185
01:37:50,078 --> 01:37:53,540
But I could see that
he didn't feel amazing.
2186
01:37:53,581 --> 01:37:55,208
- He worked with
a cardiologist.
2187
01:37:55,250 --> 01:37:56,668
And he was on medication.
2188
01:37:56,710 --> 01:38:01,297
He was already cleared
to work out, but not a lot.
2189
01:38:01,339 --> 01:38:05,427
They'd say just light cardio
was fine, so he would do that.
2190
01:38:05,468 --> 01:38:07,178
He was doing a little
bit better and then
2191
01:38:07,220 --> 01:38:08,596
it kept getting better
and better and better.
2192
01:38:08,638 --> 01:38:11,349
And then a couple times,
it kind of backtracked.
2193
01:38:13,643 --> 01:38:16,563
- My sister, she was staying
at his guest house.
2194
01:38:16,604 --> 01:38:18,189
And when she walked
in the garage,
2195
01:38:18,231 --> 01:38:19,983
there was a rattlesnake.
2196
01:38:20,025 --> 01:38:22,110
So we freaked out
and drove there.
2197
01:38:22,152 --> 01:38:26,531
And we had to lift up
some stuff and get to it.
2198
01:38:26,573 --> 01:38:30,410
And afterwards--
he always sweated,
2199
01:38:30,452 --> 01:38:33,246
but it was more than that,
and in his eyes.
2200
01:38:33,288 --> 01:38:35,290
And he said, I don't feel good.
2201
01:38:35,331 --> 01:38:36,958
I just got to take a nap.
2202
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:40,086
And it was, like,
3:00 in the afternoon.
2203
01:38:40,128 --> 01:38:44,674
And it crossed my mind.
2204
01:38:44,716 --> 01:38:47,010
And I worried for him
because he's my brother.
2205
01:38:47,052 --> 01:38:48,762
In that moment,
I go, are you OK?
2206
01:38:48,803 --> 01:38:50,096
And I asked him then.
2207
01:38:50,138 --> 01:38:51,848
Yeah, yeah, I'm fine.
2208
01:38:51,890 --> 01:38:53,558
But I never really worried.
2209
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:57,604
I never thought,
oh, Windham is really sick.
2210
01:38:57,645 --> 01:38:59,064
Never for a second.
2211
01:38:59,105 --> 01:39:02,609
I was just waiting for the call
to come back as monsters
2212
01:39:02,650 --> 01:39:04,027
like we both wanted.
2213
01:39:04,069 --> 01:39:07,072
* *
2214
01:39:07,113 --> 01:39:08,782
- He was still under
the doctor's care.
2215
01:39:08,823 --> 01:39:12,452
And we were right there
to where, oh, he's fine.
2216
01:39:12,494 --> 01:39:15,121
He should be able
to go back soon.
2217
01:39:15,163 --> 01:39:17,374
But he didn't feel good.
2218
01:39:17,415 --> 01:39:21,795
And they set him up
with a vest that
2219
01:39:21,836 --> 01:39:26,633
was actually to where it
would shock him if he stopped.
2220
01:39:26,675 --> 01:39:30,136
And they released him
from the hospital with that,
2221
01:39:30,178 --> 01:39:31,346
and he swore he would wear it.
2222
01:39:31,388 --> 01:39:32,639
Mike and I picked him up
at the hospital
2223
01:39:32,681 --> 01:39:34,099
and brought him home.
2224
01:39:34,140 --> 01:39:37,394
We watched it get fitted
and everything, and he wore it.
2225
01:39:37,435 --> 01:39:43,191
And then he went for
the follow-up with his doctor.
2226
01:39:46,027 --> 01:39:49,364
- Thursday, August 24.
2227
01:39:49,406 --> 01:39:52,534
Windham had a morning checkup
with his doctor.
2228
01:39:52,575 --> 01:39:55,912
- He called me and he said,
probably, at some point,
2229
01:39:55,954 --> 01:39:58,289
I'm going to have to do
a pacemaker or something.
2230
01:39:58,331 --> 01:40:01,501
So he didn't tell me there
was good news or bad news,
2231
01:40:01,543 --> 01:40:03,878
but he was--
2232
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:05,922
Ma, I'm going to be fine.
2233
01:40:05,964 --> 01:40:07,632
- It was that morning.
2234
01:40:07,674 --> 01:40:09,718
I had called him
and he answered the phone.
2235
01:40:09,759 --> 01:40:11,594
And he was like,
hey, what's up Sam?
2236
01:40:11,636 --> 01:40:13,972
I said, well, do you want to
get the kids from school today?
2237
01:40:14,014 --> 01:40:15,348
And he was like,
I would love that.
2238
01:40:15,390 --> 01:40:16,975
Yeah, I'm going to pick
the kids up from school.
2239
01:40:17,017 --> 01:40:18,351
I said, OK, cool.
2240
01:40:18,393 --> 01:40:20,562
I think this was, like,
10:00 in the morning.
2241
01:40:20,603 --> 01:40:23,273
- He walks in the house,
he's excited.
2242
01:40:23,314 --> 01:40:25,191
Just, hey, guys, what's up?
2243
01:40:25,233 --> 01:40:27,068
All the kids jumping on him
and everything.
2244
01:40:27,110 --> 01:40:29,529
So he was just
really, really happy.
2245
01:40:29,571 --> 01:40:32,032
And he's like,
I'm going to go take a nap.
2246
01:40:32,073 --> 01:40:33,491
And I was like,
all right, cool.
2247
01:40:33,533 --> 01:40:35,201
He goes to sleep
around 2:00 PM.
2248
01:40:35,243 --> 01:40:38,371
[tense music]
2249
01:40:38,413 --> 01:40:39,998
So I'm doing my thing
in the kitchen.
2250
01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:41,541
My mom's there.
2251
01:40:41,583 --> 01:40:44,878
And then his alarm
starts going off at 3:00.
2252
01:40:44,919 --> 01:40:47,339
And so then I walked over
and I was like, babe,
2253
01:40:47,380 --> 01:40:48,840
your alarm's going off.
2254
01:40:48,882 --> 01:40:52,677
And then I touched his leg,
and he wouldn't move.
2255
01:40:52,719 --> 01:40:55,889
And so then like I started
shaking him and hitting him,
2256
01:40:55,930 --> 01:40:57,182
and he wouldn't move.
2257
01:40:57,223 --> 01:40:59,934
And so I screamed for my mom.
2258
01:40:59,976 --> 01:41:01,311
* *
2259
01:41:01,353 --> 01:41:03,730
I call 911 immediately.
2260
01:41:03,772 --> 01:41:07,317
In the meantime,
my mom is calling his mom.
2261
01:41:07,359 --> 01:41:09,569
* *
2262
01:41:09,611 --> 01:41:11,404
- She's screaming, Windham's
having a heart attack.
2263
01:41:11,446 --> 01:41:12,822
Windham's having
a heart attack.
2264
01:41:12,864 --> 01:41:14,741
And I'm like,
no, no, no, no, no.
2265
01:41:14,783 --> 01:41:15,742
Put him on the phone.
2266
01:41:15,784 --> 01:41:17,202
Put him on the phone.
2267
01:41:17,243 --> 01:41:20,580
And I immediately
called Taylor.
2268
01:41:20,622 --> 01:41:22,248
- She said she didn't know
the details.
2269
01:41:22,290 --> 01:41:24,417
He just stopped breathing.
2270
01:41:24,459 --> 01:41:28,004
- I'm following them
with him in the gurney.
2271
01:41:28,046 --> 01:41:30,423
And I kept yelling at him.
2272
01:41:30,465 --> 01:41:32,092
I'm like, please
just come back to me.
2273
01:41:32,133 --> 01:41:35,845
I'm like,
please just come back to me.
2274
01:41:35,887 --> 01:41:39,140
[somber music]
2275
01:41:39,182 --> 01:41:41,226
- My car was in the shop,
2276
01:41:41,267 --> 01:41:43,019
so I had to call Taylor
and say, Taylor,
2277
01:41:43,061 --> 01:41:45,563
I need you to come get me
and the baby now.
2278
01:41:45,605 --> 01:41:48,066
And I remember getting
my baby dressed.
2279
01:41:48,108 --> 01:41:51,403
And I just kept saying to her,
everything's going to be OK.
2280
01:41:51,444 --> 01:41:53,905
Everything's going to be OK.
2281
01:41:53,947 --> 01:41:59,244
And in the back of my mind,
I just knew it's not OK.
2282
01:41:59,285 --> 01:42:01,204
* *
2283
01:42:01,246 --> 01:42:02,455
- As soon as we walked in,
2284
01:42:02,497 --> 01:42:05,500
they pulled us
in a room alone.
2285
01:42:07,085 --> 01:42:08,586
The doctor walked in.
2286
01:42:08,628 --> 01:42:14,843
And it's like something you see
2287
01:42:14,884 --> 01:42:18,638
a million times in movies,
2288
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:20,849
but you really don't know
what it feels like
2289
01:42:20,890 --> 01:42:23,435
until it happens.
2290
01:42:27,981 --> 01:42:32,610
He said, we got bad news.
2291
01:42:35,739 --> 01:42:38,283
He's gone.
2292
01:42:38,324 --> 01:42:42,579
And it's like time slowed down.
2293
01:42:42,620 --> 01:42:47,167
I could see the reaction
of everybody in the room.
2294
01:42:47,208 --> 01:42:49,586
My mom and dad crumbling.
2295
01:42:49,627 --> 01:42:53,923
And my sister, she's got her
baby wrapped to her chest
2296
01:42:53,965 --> 01:42:55,508
and she's falling.
2297
01:42:55,550 --> 01:42:59,304
And I've never been more sad.
2298
01:42:59,346 --> 01:43:02,057
But something in me--
2299
01:43:02,098 --> 01:43:06,811
and I still to this day
think it was Windham--
2300
01:43:06,853 --> 01:43:09,856
something in me gave me
the strength to go, stop.
2301
01:43:09,898 --> 01:43:14,694
You need to hold them up.
2302
01:43:14,736 --> 01:43:20,367
He gave me strength
in a moment where
2303
01:43:20,408 --> 01:43:22,869
I would think I would crumble.
2304
01:43:22,911 --> 01:43:27,916
And I really believe
it was him.
2305
01:43:27,957 --> 01:43:33,296
And he was telling me,
be there for Mom.
2306
01:43:33,338 --> 01:43:35,340
Hold her up.
2307
01:43:38,176 --> 01:43:40,970
- Taylor had to pick me up
off the floor
2308
01:43:41,012 --> 01:43:47,143
and I just remember
his hands felt so big.
2309
01:43:47,185 --> 01:43:51,106
He just held me, picked me up.
2310
01:43:51,147 --> 01:43:52,857
There was nothing we could do.
2311
01:43:52,899 --> 01:43:57,404
It was absolute disbelief
that this isn't happening.
2312
01:43:57,445 --> 01:43:59,406
This is not real.
2313
01:43:59,447 --> 01:44:01,282
And I kept looking
at Mike going,
2314
01:44:01,324 --> 01:44:03,243
Mike, you got to do something.
2315
01:44:03,284 --> 01:44:05,078
Fix this. Fix this now.
2316
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:07,455
* *
2317
01:44:07,497 --> 01:44:10,041
- It was just heartbreaking.
2318
01:44:10,083 --> 01:44:14,295
Somebody sticking their fist
in your chest
2319
01:44:14,337 --> 01:44:17,424
and pulling your heart out.
2320
01:44:17,465 --> 01:44:19,551
- My sister called me.
2321
01:44:19,592 --> 01:44:22,554
And all she said was...
2322
01:44:26,808 --> 01:44:28,810
Windham is gone.
2323
01:44:31,354 --> 01:44:33,440
- My phone rang when I was
sitting on the plane.
2324
01:44:33,481 --> 01:44:35,442
And I answered it,
2325
01:44:35,483 --> 01:44:39,654
and JoJo said, he's gone.
2326
01:44:39,696 --> 01:44:42,365
And I said,
what do you mean he's gone?
2327
01:44:42,407 --> 01:44:44,075
He's dead.
2328
01:44:44,117 --> 01:44:48,788
And I literally was
walking off the airplane,
2329
01:44:48,830 --> 01:44:51,499
I dropped to my knees
on the jet bridge.
2330
01:44:51,541 --> 01:44:53,752
And I just--
2331
01:44:57,005 --> 01:45:01,676
I felt like, all of a sudden,
something was missing from me.
2332
01:45:01,718 --> 01:45:03,595
- I got a phone call,
and it was Jo.
2333
01:45:03,636 --> 01:45:07,015
She goes, Windham's gone.
2334
01:45:11,478 --> 01:45:14,314
And I screamed.
2335
01:45:14,356 --> 01:45:15,690
- All I could think about is,
2336
01:45:15,732 --> 01:45:18,276
how am I going to tell
my children--
2337
01:45:18,318 --> 01:45:20,820
they're three and four--
that they just lost their dad?
2338
01:45:20,862 --> 01:45:23,114
* *
2339
01:45:23,156 --> 01:45:25,992
- People say like,
it was a nightmare.
2340
01:45:26,034 --> 01:45:28,536
But you don't know what
that feels like until
2341
01:45:28,578 --> 01:45:31,081
you live a nightmare.
2342
01:45:31,122 --> 01:45:35,043
- It was and will forever be
2343
01:45:35,085 --> 01:45:38,171
the worst day of my life.
2344
01:45:38,213 --> 01:45:40,173
* *
2345
01:45:40,215 --> 01:45:43,134
- He didn't have the vest on.
2346
01:45:43,176 --> 01:45:46,846
Don't know what happened.
2347
01:45:46,888 --> 01:45:48,640
* *
2348
01:45:48,682 --> 01:45:53,228
- Windham Rotunda passed away.
2349
01:45:53,269 --> 01:45:56,231
He was 36 years old.
2350
01:45:56,272 --> 01:46:01,695
* *
2351
01:46:01,736 --> 01:46:04,823
Just 24 hours after
Windham's passing,
2352
01:46:04,864 --> 01:46:07,325
WWE's Friday Night
SmackDown program
2353
01:46:07,367 --> 01:46:11,496
was set to air live
from Louisville, Kentucky.
2354
01:46:15,125 --> 01:46:17,836
Life is short.
2355
01:46:17,877 --> 01:46:22,298
This doesn't tell you
anything else.
2356
01:46:22,340 --> 01:46:24,426
It's short.
2357
01:46:25,719 --> 01:46:28,430
It still feels--
it's still surreal.
2358
01:46:28,471 --> 01:46:29,973
I still feel like I just
2359
01:46:30,015 --> 01:46:32,976
haven't seen him
for a little while, you know,
2360
01:46:33,018 --> 01:46:39,357
because he was so
larger-than-life as a person
2361
01:46:39,399 --> 01:46:46,031
and so big personality-wise
and everything was so good.
2362
01:46:46,072 --> 01:46:51,953
And for somebody that young,
it's just a crazy--
2363
01:46:54,789 --> 01:46:57,500
I don't know how
to put it into words.
2364
01:46:57,542 --> 01:46:59,252
36 years old.
2365
01:46:59,294 --> 01:47:00,378
Cherish it.
2366
01:47:00,420 --> 01:47:02,339
Cherish each other.
2367
01:47:02,380 --> 01:47:05,258
- Sitting here doing this
whole thing about Windham,
2368
01:47:05,300 --> 01:47:08,678
and even now, there's still
a huge part of me
2369
01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:10,263
that's in total denial.
2370
01:47:10,305 --> 01:47:12,223
You know what I mean?
2371
01:47:17,562 --> 01:47:20,231
Yeah.
2372
01:47:20,273 --> 01:47:23,860
- I just didn't believe it.
2373
01:47:23,902 --> 01:47:25,612
I just thought it was bullshit.
2374
01:47:25,653 --> 01:47:28,406
I just thought it wasn't real.
2375
01:47:28,448 --> 01:47:31,201
Sometimes, even now,
I still don't think it's real.
2376
01:47:34,162 --> 01:47:35,497
Yeah. I don't know.
2377
01:47:35,538 --> 01:47:37,999
It sucked. It still sucks.
2378
01:47:41,211 --> 01:47:43,588
- Everything we wanted to do
2379
01:47:43,630 --> 01:47:48,009
was a tribute to Bray.
2380
01:47:49,344 --> 01:47:51,846
Just to say thank you.
2381
01:47:54,474 --> 01:47:57,602
[bell dinging]
2382
01:48:07,946 --> 01:48:10,824
- Just a barrage of different
feelings in my head.
2383
01:48:13,201 --> 01:48:15,745
I miss him.
2384
01:48:15,787 --> 01:48:21,167
- He was just a light
in everyone's lives.
2385
01:48:21,209 --> 01:48:24,754
- He was one of the greatest
people I've ever met.
2386
01:48:24,796 --> 01:48:26,423
And I wouldn't be
where I am in my life
2387
01:48:26,464 --> 01:48:28,341
without meeting him.
2388
01:48:28,383 --> 01:48:31,469
I miss you. I miss you.
2389
01:48:31,511 --> 01:48:35,515
* *
2390
01:48:35,557 --> 01:48:38,059
- He touched a lot of people.
2391
01:48:38,101 --> 01:48:39,769
* *
2392
01:48:39,811 --> 01:48:43,023
He was loved by millions.
2393
01:48:43,064 --> 01:48:46,151
* *
2394
01:48:46,192 --> 01:48:49,529
- Windham's sudden passing
left the entire WWE Universe
2395
01:48:49,571 --> 01:48:52,073
in shock.
2396
01:48:52,115 --> 01:48:55,118
Honoring his legacy
would be a tall task.
2397
01:48:59,581 --> 01:49:01,416
all: Thank you, Bray!
Thank you, Bray!
2398
01:49:01,458 --> 01:49:04,377
Thank you, Bray!
Thank you, Bray!
2399
01:49:04,419 --> 01:49:08,840
- Following Windham's passing,
in arenas across the country,
2400
01:49:08,882 --> 01:49:14,012
superstars and fans paid
tribute to Bray Wyatt.
2401
01:49:14,054 --> 01:49:17,349
- I know that all of you
can feel the spirit
2402
01:49:17,390 --> 01:49:19,267
of Bray Wyatt in this building.
2403
01:49:19,309 --> 01:49:21,895
[cheers and applause]
2404
01:49:21,936 --> 01:49:24,898
- That was the one time
where I kind of struggled.
2405
01:49:24,939 --> 01:49:26,566
It started to break me.
2406
01:49:26,608 --> 01:49:28,985
I had to look at the ceiling
to keep everything together,
2407
01:49:29,027 --> 01:49:31,321
and just big deep breath.
2408
01:49:31,363 --> 01:49:33,531
- This one is for Windham.
2409
01:49:33,573 --> 01:49:35,867
Hug the ones that you love.
2410
01:49:35,909 --> 01:49:37,577
He was a special human being.
2411
01:49:37,619 --> 01:49:39,245
He was a good human being.
2412
01:49:39,287 --> 01:49:42,040
There's just not very many
people like Windham Rotunda.
2413
01:49:42,082 --> 01:49:44,959
There's nobody
like Windham Rotunda.
2414
01:49:45,001 --> 01:49:48,338
- I'll always think of him
for the rest of my career
2415
01:49:48,380 --> 01:49:51,591
every single time
I see these fireflies.
2416
01:49:51,633 --> 01:49:55,845
[cheers and applause]
2417
01:49:55,887 --> 01:49:57,597
It was the only therapy
that I was able
2418
01:49:57,639 --> 01:50:00,642
to get was in that ring.
2419
01:50:00,684 --> 01:50:04,979
He was truly a beautiful soul
inside of the ring and out.
2420
01:50:05,021 --> 01:50:09,192
- It was touching to see
so many people care
2421
01:50:09,234 --> 01:50:12,821
and know that he touched
so many people.
2422
01:50:12,862 --> 01:50:17,992
- He really touched lives
from all over the world.
2423
01:50:18,034 --> 01:50:19,994
- It was just overwhelming--
2424
01:50:20,036 --> 01:50:24,666
really overwhelming to see
how much he was loved.
2425
01:50:24,708 --> 01:50:27,293
I was like, wow.
2426
01:50:27,335 --> 01:50:28,712
Wow.
2427
01:50:28,753 --> 01:50:30,005
He was loved.
2428
01:50:33,967 --> 01:50:37,804
[soft music]
2429
01:50:37,846 --> 01:50:40,390
- September 6th.
2430
01:50:40,432 --> 01:50:42,767
Two weeks after
Windham's passing,
2431
01:50:42,809 --> 01:50:44,936
a service was held
in his hometown
2432
01:50:44,978 --> 01:50:47,814
of Brooksville, Florida.
2433
01:50:47,856 --> 01:50:50,984
- To go and plan
your son's funeral
2434
01:50:51,026 --> 01:50:53,820
is the worst thing
in the world.
2435
01:50:53,862 --> 01:50:56,489
It was the hardest thing
in the world.
2436
01:50:56,531 --> 01:50:58,533
* *
2437
01:50:58,575 --> 01:51:02,537
- We wanted it to be very
Windham down to his urn.
2438
01:51:02,579 --> 01:51:03,788
Very much like him.
2439
01:51:03,830 --> 01:51:06,332
And it's a flame.
2440
01:51:06,374 --> 01:51:09,669
- The smoke going off
and the red lights,
2441
01:51:09,711 --> 01:51:11,379
it was a Windham funeral.
2442
01:51:11,421 --> 01:51:13,798
And it made me smile.
2443
01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:16,926
- Seeing everyone together--
how important he was
2444
01:51:16,968 --> 01:51:18,887
to so many people--
2445
01:51:18,928 --> 01:51:22,849
that speaks volumes
for the man that he was.
2446
01:51:22,891 --> 01:51:24,517
- I did get to go
to the funeral.
2447
01:51:24,559 --> 01:51:27,395
And there was
some closure there.
2448
01:51:27,437 --> 01:51:31,024
But at the same time,
how can there be closure
2449
01:51:31,066 --> 01:51:35,737
on a guy who was just stepping
into his prime, really?
2450
01:51:37,864 --> 01:51:42,660
- I was hurting more that day
than I ever thought possible.
2451
01:51:42,702 --> 01:51:45,121
I really don't know how
I'm going to get through this.
2452
01:51:45,163 --> 01:51:51,336
But I know Windham would
have done this for me,
2453
01:51:51,378 --> 01:51:55,423
and he would have
ended up killing it.
2454
01:51:55,465 --> 01:51:57,384
He really would have.
2455
01:51:57,425 --> 01:52:03,390
He wasn't just my big brother
or my best friend.
2456
01:52:03,431 --> 01:52:06,851
He was my idol.
2457
01:52:06,893 --> 01:52:08,645
- Windham was
Taylor's superhero.
2458
01:52:08,687 --> 01:52:11,940
The eulogy that Taylor gave
at Windham's service
2459
01:52:11,981 --> 01:52:15,568
was unbelievable.
2460
01:52:15,610 --> 01:52:19,989
- He is and always will be
the most beautiful,
2461
01:52:20,031 --> 01:52:24,536
amazing person I've ever known.
2462
01:52:24,577 --> 01:52:27,664
I love you so much, Windham.
2463
01:52:27,706 --> 01:52:29,249
- I could feel
Windham's comfort
2464
01:52:29,290 --> 01:52:31,793
as I stood up there to speak.
2465
01:52:31,835 --> 01:52:33,962
A couple months ago,
I had this unique opportunity.
2466
01:52:34,004 --> 01:52:37,549
My dad actually asked me
to do it.
2467
01:52:37,590 --> 01:52:39,426
He's working on a book.
2468
01:52:39,467 --> 01:52:43,555
And he said, you know,
set something up with the boys
2469
01:52:43,596 --> 01:52:46,224
and interview them
and get some transcripts.
2470
01:52:46,266 --> 01:52:48,435
Just talking about
our family and the values
2471
01:52:48,476 --> 01:52:49,853
and how we grew up.
2472
01:52:49,894 --> 01:52:51,521
* *
2473
01:52:51,563 --> 01:52:53,606
I had no idea that
Windham was going to tell us
2474
01:52:53,648 --> 01:52:57,068
how he wanted to be remembered.
2475
01:52:57,110 --> 01:52:59,446
- I want to leave a mark
that makes me
2476
01:52:59,487 --> 01:53:02,574
a first-ballot Hall of Famer
and makes all my kids proud.
2477
01:53:02,615 --> 01:53:04,909
But honestly,
at the end of the day,
2478
01:53:04,951 --> 01:53:06,911
when I go into the dirt,
2479
01:53:06,953 --> 01:53:09,456
I think that
I will be remembered
2480
01:53:09,497 --> 01:53:11,666
for far more things
than just wrestling.
2481
01:53:11,708 --> 01:53:15,337
Making sure that my kids
and JoJo, everybody,
2482
01:53:15,378 --> 01:53:17,047
that they know
they can count on me
2483
01:53:17,088 --> 01:53:19,883
and that I will be there
for them no matter what.
2484
01:53:19,924 --> 01:53:23,136
* *
2485
01:53:23,178 --> 01:53:29,476
- Windham was gone,
but his ideas live on.
2486
01:53:29,517 --> 01:53:33,188
He still has
one final creation
2487
01:53:33,229 --> 01:53:35,648
to share with the world.
2488
01:53:35,690 --> 01:53:37,692
* *
2489
01:53:37,734 --> 01:53:39,652
- He was here a bunch.
2490
01:53:39,694 --> 01:53:41,946
He came, like, three
or four times over the summer
2491
01:53:41,988 --> 01:53:43,156
spitballing ideas--
2492
01:53:43,198 --> 01:53:45,367
I want to do this.
I want to do that.
2493
01:53:45,408 --> 01:53:48,828
And from there, we started
working on the new Fiend.
2494
01:53:48,870 --> 01:53:50,830
We made the new lantern.
2495
01:53:50,872 --> 01:53:52,248
We threw a little
animatronics in there
2496
01:53:52,290 --> 01:53:54,876
so the eyes move
back and forth.
2497
01:53:56,294 --> 01:53:59,214
We made the new mask,
started talking about gear.
2498
01:53:59,255 --> 01:54:00,507
Windham always wanted
something new,
2499
01:54:00,548 --> 01:54:02,217
something fresh,
something different.
2500
01:54:02,258 --> 01:54:05,679
What would the next evolution
of The Fiend be?
2501
01:54:05,720 --> 01:54:08,682
[soft music]
2502
01:54:08,723 --> 01:54:11,476
* *
2503
01:54:11,518 --> 01:54:15,063
* *
2504
01:54:15,105 --> 01:54:17,565
We 3D sculpted
a body form of Windham.
2505
01:54:17,607 --> 01:54:19,776
The mask had already
been approved by Windham.
2506
01:54:19,818 --> 01:54:22,237
This jacket was actually
something he had purchased,
2507
01:54:22,278 --> 01:54:24,864
and his mother and father
had sent it to us.
2508
01:54:24,906 --> 01:54:27,158
So we were able to use that.
2509
01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:29,494
Windham always loved
little Easter eggs.
2510
01:54:29,536 --> 01:54:31,955
When we did the original
lantern, if you look,
2511
01:54:31,996 --> 01:54:33,331
the eyes just look
like stitches,
2512
01:54:33,373 --> 01:54:35,166
but they're actually
Roman numerals
2513
01:54:35,208 --> 01:54:37,502
of Knash, his son's, birthday.
2514
01:54:37,544 --> 01:54:40,547
So we just kept
that tradition going.
2515
01:54:40,588 --> 01:54:42,632
The pinstripe,
Windham got the idea
2516
01:54:42,674 --> 01:54:45,760
to do each one
of his children's names.
2517
01:54:45,802 --> 01:54:48,179
He loved making you look
at something twice to find
2518
01:54:48,221 --> 01:54:50,557
something else more about it.
2519
01:54:50,598 --> 01:54:53,601
The stitches we did in a way
to where they're actually
2520
01:54:53,643 --> 01:54:55,729
the Roman numerals
of what would have been
2521
01:54:55,770 --> 01:54:58,606
his wedding anniversary,
which is December 6th.
2522
01:54:58,648 --> 01:55:00,233
12 on this side.
2523
01:55:00,275 --> 01:55:04,237
And then here, we have the six.
2524
01:55:04,279 --> 01:55:05,864
One of the ideas
that Windham had was,
2525
01:55:05,905 --> 01:55:08,241
instead of doing the spider
walk where he leans backwards,
2526
01:55:08,283 --> 01:55:10,035
if we did something where
he could lean forward.
2527
01:55:10,076 --> 01:55:11,911
His hair would
kind of fly up over.
2528
01:55:11,953 --> 01:55:13,413
So when he was crawling around,
2529
01:55:13,455 --> 01:55:14,873
he would expose
the second mask,
2530
01:55:14,914 --> 01:55:15,999
which would be hidden
by his hair.
2531
01:55:16,041 --> 01:55:17,709
Gross, disgusting face
on the front.
2532
01:55:17,751 --> 01:55:19,669
But then on the back,
we'd have this beautiful face.
2533
01:55:19,711 --> 01:55:22,213
And to Windham, the most
beautiful face was JoJo's.
2534
01:55:22,255 --> 01:55:24,007
So we 3D scanned JoJo's face.
2535
01:55:24,049 --> 01:55:27,594
And we were able to make a copy
of that and then sculpt it.
2536
01:55:27,635 --> 01:55:30,096
And we decided to put
these mockingbirds on there.
2537
01:55:30,138 --> 01:55:33,183
That's another homage to JoJo.
2538
01:55:33,224 --> 01:55:35,101
Windham's nickname
for JoJo was Mockingbird.
2539
01:55:35,143 --> 01:55:41,608
* *
2540
01:55:41,649 --> 01:55:44,402
It's devastatingly
heartbreaking that
2541
01:55:44,444 --> 01:55:45,820
this is the last thing
I ever get to work on
2542
01:55:45,862 --> 01:55:47,280
with my best friend.
2543
01:55:47,322 --> 01:55:50,367
But I couldn't be more proud
of my crew and everyone
2544
01:55:50,408 --> 01:55:54,662
that came together that
helped us bring this to life.
2545
01:55:56,623 --> 01:55:59,209
I think it really
just hurts the most
2546
01:55:59,250 --> 01:56:01,670
that I never got to tell him
how much he meant to me.
2547
01:56:03,797 --> 01:56:05,423
It never felt work with him.
2548
01:56:05,465 --> 01:56:07,092
I just felt like I got to
hang out with my best friend,
2549
01:56:07,133 --> 01:56:09,803
and I miss that.
2550
01:56:09,844 --> 01:56:14,307
If I can give this to his fans
which meant the world to him,
2551
01:56:14,349 --> 01:56:16,768
then not all of him
is completely gone.
2552
01:56:16,810 --> 01:56:19,646
So if I get to help
my friend live on
2553
01:56:19,688 --> 01:56:23,650
in some way or capacity,
I'll be OK with that.
2554
01:56:23,692 --> 01:56:25,485
I can do that.
2555
01:56:27,278 --> 01:56:31,616
- He's not gone,
because the art he left
2556
01:56:31,658 --> 01:56:36,329
and his ideas will
live on forever.
2557
01:56:39,207 --> 01:56:41,376
- The real him was
much, much more
2558
01:56:41,418 --> 01:56:42,794
and much more entertaining
2559
01:56:42,836 --> 01:56:44,546
than any of his
characters could be.
2560
01:56:44,587 --> 01:56:49,676
He was very entertaining
always.
2561
01:56:49,718 --> 01:56:54,347
And he did that for them,
but you know, we got him.
2562
01:56:54,389 --> 01:56:56,891
And he's missed a lot.
2563
01:56:56,933 --> 01:56:59,894
[somber music]
2564
01:56:59,936 --> 01:57:03,857
* *
2565
01:57:03,898 --> 01:57:06,901
- January 2024.
2566
01:57:06,943 --> 01:57:11,406
It's been five months
since Windham passed.
2567
01:57:11,448 --> 01:57:15,952
While he is gone,
2568
01:57:15,994 --> 01:57:20,665
you can still see him here.
2569
01:57:20,707 --> 01:57:23,960
- We can put a little bit
of pink on the rainbow.
2570
01:57:24,002 --> 01:57:25,003
- Good idea.
2571
01:57:25,045 --> 01:57:26,796
* *
2572
01:57:26,838 --> 01:57:28,882
- His smile.
2573
01:57:28,923 --> 01:57:31,051
* *
2574
01:57:31,092 --> 01:57:32,761
His life.
2575
01:57:32,802 --> 01:57:34,596
* *
2576
01:57:34,637 --> 01:57:37,515
His hope.
2577
01:57:37,557 --> 01:57:40,560
- My name is
Cadyn Cole Rotunda.
2578
01:57:40,602 --> 01:57:43,229
- My name is
Kendyl Marie Rotunda.
2579
01:57:43,271 --> 01:57:45,190
* *
2580
01:57:45,231 --> 01:57:48,485
- I like to play sports.
2581
01:57:48,526 --> 01:57:50,570
I just like shoes. It's fun.
2582
01:57:50,612 --> 01:57:52,864
I just liked it 'cause like,
me and my dad did it together.
2583
01:57:52,906 --> 01:57:54,574
So yeah.
2584
01:57:54,616 --> 01:57:55,992
* *
2585
01:57:56,034 --> 01:57:59,913
- I want to travel everywhere
and become an artist.
2586
01:57:59,954 --> 01:58:02,248
* *
2587
01:58:02,290 --> 01:58:04,918
- He's definitely
in all four kids.
2588
01:58:04,959 --> 01:58:06,836
* *
2589
01:58:06,878 --> 01:58:09,214
They all four take after him
in some way.
2590
01:58:09,255 --> 01:58:11,007
* *
2591
01:58:11,049 --> 01:58:14,803
- Hyrie, I'd probably say
chaos.
2592
01:58:14,844 --> 01:58:20,558
Cadyn, probably smart.
2593
01:58:20,600 --> 01:58:23,269
Knash, he's just a dinosaur.
2594
01:58:23,311 --> 01:58:24,729
Just a dinosaur.
2595
01:58:24,771 --> 01:58:31,486
* *
2596
01:58:31,528 --> 01:58:35,573
- Knock on wood--if you
believe in afterlife,
2597
01:58:35,615 --> 01:58:38,201
you know,
we will get to see him again.
2598
01:58:41,371 --> 01:58:44,249
- My fire and love
for the business
2599
01:58:44,290 --> 01:58:46,543
has to burn brighter
than it ever has
2600
01:58:46,584 --> 01:58:50,547
because he's given me
the strength and passion
2601
01:58:50,588 --> 01:58:53,800
to want to carry his legacy on.
2602
01:58:53,842 --> 01:58:56,052
* *
2603
01:58:56,094 --> 01:58:58,346
If you asked him what he was,
2604
01:58:58,388 --> 01:59:00,974
he would say he's an artist.
2605
01:59:01,016 --> 01:59:03,393
* *
2606
01:59:03,435 --> 01:59:09,399
- * He's got the whole world *
2607
01:59:09,441 --> 01:59:14,487
* In his hands *
2608
01:59:14,529 --> 01:59:20,660
- The dad he was,
the son, the brother...
2609
01:59:20,702 --> 01:59:21,661
* *
2610
01:59:21,703 --> 01:59:24,330
Everything of who he was,
2611
01:59:24,372 --> 01:59:26,332
he was the best at it.
2612
01:59:26,374 --> 01:59:28,460
- I'm something
completely different
2613
01:59:28,501 --> 01:59:30,670
than has ever been in the WWE.
2614
01:59:30,712 --> 01:59:33,298
We're here.
2615
01:59:33,340 --> 01:59:37,427
- Windham once said,
wrestling is not a love story.
2616
01:59:37,469 --> 01:59:40,430
It's much more.
2617
01:59:40,472 --> 01:59:46,478
It's hope,
a spectacle no one can deny,
2618
01:59:46,519 --> 01:59:48,730
an excuse to be a kid again.
2619
01:59:48,772 --> 01:59:53,068
And nothing matters except
the moment we are in.
2620
01:59:53,109 --> 01:59:58,323
- Walk by my side, and I will
lead you to paradise!
2621
01:59:58,365 --> 02:00:00,408
[dramatic music]
2622
02:00:00,450 --> 02:00:04,454
- And that is how
Windham Rotunda lived.
2623
02:00:04,496 --> 02:00:08,458
- I am the color red in a world
full of black and white.
2624
02:00:08,500 --> 02:00:10,543
- One of the most
unique minds.
2625
02:00:10,585 --> 02:00:13,672
Changed the landscape.
2626
02:00:13,713 --> 02:00:15,882
- He inspired
not only the fans,
2627
02:00:15,924 --> 02:00:17,717
but a lot of the boys
in the locker room
2628
02:00:17,759 --> 02:00:20,387
to push themselves
to be more creative.
2629
02:00:20,428 --> 02:00:22,097
- There's a love
for this industry.
2630
02:00:22,138 --> 02:00:25,892
And what he gave to it
was something special.
2631
02:00:25,934 --> 02:00:29,729
- Nobody ever has taken
the risks that he has.
2632
02:00:29,771 --> 02:00:32,232
- He opened up a world
that no one could ever do.
2633
02:00:32,273 --> 02:00:36,111
- I am forever.
2634
02:00:36,152 --> 02:00:38,863
- I think he is the template
for taking chances
2635
02:00:38,905 --> 02:00:41,449
and the template
for being brave.
2636
02:00:41,491 --> 02:00:44,077
- Do I have your attention now?
2637
02:00:44,119 --> 02:00:48,581
* *
2638
02:00:48,623 --> 02:00:55,380
- The greatest human I have
ever known, hands down.
2639
02:00:55,422 --> 02:00:57,090
- One of a kind.
2640
02:00:57,132 --> 02:00:59,217
There will only be one Windham.
2641
02:00:59,259 --> 02:01:04,389
- * He's got the whole world *
2642
02:01:04,431 --> 02:01:07,350
* *
2643
02:01:13,481 --> 02:01:14,816
- OK. Stand by.
2644
02:01:14,858 --> 02:01:16,026
Ready to roll.
2645
02:01:16,067 --> 02:01:19,029
[funky music]
2646
02:01:19,070 --> 02:01:25,994
* *
2647
02:01:27,954 --> 02:01:29,789
- I've been very honored
to be asked
2648
02:01:29,831 --> 02:01:31,708
to be part of this project.
2649
02:01:31,750 --> 02:01:33,543
It's kind of bizarre to know
2650
02:01:33,585 --> 02:01:35,754
that I worked with Mike.
2651
02:01:35,795 --> 02:01:37,547
And then I remember meeting
2652
02:01:37,589 --> 02:01:40,383
both boys
when they were small kids.
2653
02:01:40,425 --> 02:01:44,095
And then actually working
at WrestleMania with Windham.
2654
02:01:44,137 --> 02:01:47,098
You talk about things
coming full circle.
2655
02:01:47,140 --> 02:01:50,268
I could always see in Windham
that he was so different.
2656
02:01:50,310 --> 02:01:53,646
And you have very few people
that come along
2657
02:01:53,688 --> 02:01:56,066
that actually think
outside of the box.
2658
02:01:56,107 --> 02:01:59,402
He was obviously taken
from us way too soon.
2659
02:01:59,444 --> 02:02:00,737
I know what
he would have been,
2660
02:02:00,779 --> 02:02:03,656
and it would have been
really, really special.
2661
02:02:03,698 --> 02:02:08,036
- * Broken-hearted love *
2662
02:02:13,750 --> 02:02:14,876
[static]
2663
02:02:14,918 --> 02:02:15,877
[beeping]
2664
02:02:18,338 --> 02:02:19,506
[eerie music]
2665
02:02:19,547 --> 02:02:26,054
* *
2666
02:02:31,059 --> 02:02:32,894
- Run.
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