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This is the city.
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Los Angeles, California.
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Twenty-five miles from
the heart of the Civic Center
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lies the Port of Los Angeles.
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It's the largest manmade
harbor in the world.
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With a fleet of over
700 fishing boats,
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it's become the most
important commercial fishing
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center in the nation.
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It's a bustling port,
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which handles goods
coming in to the country
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from all over the world.
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There are agencies set up to
handle most of the harbor's problems.
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Occasionally, things
get out of hand in the city.
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When they do, I go to work.
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I carry a badge.
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The story you're
about to see is true.
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The names have been
changed to protect the innocent.
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It was Monday, October 7th.
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It was fair in Los Angeles.
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We were working out of
Community Relations Division.
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The boss is Captain Walton.
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My partner is Bill Gannon.
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My name's Friday.
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It was 8:40 a.m.
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We checked in with the Captain.
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He handed us an assignment.
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The Los Angeles' Police
Department's Community
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Relations Conference
at Lake Arrowhead.
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Its purpose, a vital one.
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To find ways to improve the
Department's relationship with the public.
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It's goal, less
crime in the streets.
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Yeah, that's it.
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The conference coordinator
asked each bureau
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and division to send
two to three men.
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I picked you two.
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Nice up at Lake Arrowhead
this time of the year.
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We didn't select it
for its scenic beauty.
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The University of California has a
residential conference center up there.
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And they were good enough
to let use their facilities.
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Besides, it's away
from everything.
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Quiet, secluded... a place where
you can think without interruption.
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Kind of a retreat.
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You might call it that without
the religious overtones.
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Know anything about
these conferences?
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No, sir, just what we've heard.
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It's your chance to let your
hair down, speak your peace.
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If you've got any ideas
how we can get the
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policemen and the public
to cooperate more fully
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than they do, Arrowhead is the
place to get them off your chest.
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The brass won't be there?
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The brass will be, but rank
has no privileges up there.
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Everything's off the
cuff and informal.
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- Well, it sounds interesting.
- It is, and important.
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You know how great
the need is to improve
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communication and
relations between the police
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and the public. We can't
do our job without their help.
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And we won't get it as long as
they think of us as the heat, the fuzz.
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We've got to change that image.
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- That's where
the conference comes in?
- Right.
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To reevaluate old methods and develop new
ones which will bring the public and the
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department closer together.
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Well an open discussion
is the place to do that.
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Some good ideas came out
of the last four conferences.
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We expect some
good ones this time too.
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We'll do our best, skipper.
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You'll do more than that.
You're not just going to take part.
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- You both got
specific assignments.
- Yes, sir?
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You've got a meeting with the
conference coordinator tomorrow.
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He'll give you a full briefing.
But I'll tell you this much.
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Joe you're going to be in charge
of one of the discussion groups.
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- Bill, you're going to be
the group's recorder.
- Yes, sir.
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That doesn't mean you won't
be called on for ideas. You will.
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- We'll be ready with them.
- Good.
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- Be ready to change them too.
- How's that Captain?
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You're being sent to
Arrowhead to learn something.
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Tuesday, October 8th 9:20 a.m.
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We went upstairs to meet
with the conference coordinator.
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You know Joe I'm looking
forward to Arrowhead.
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- Pretty country up there.
- Yeah, it is.
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It'd be nice to get out of town for
awhile. We ought to do it more often.
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Yeah, I guess.
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Eileen is always asking me to take
her and the kids up to the mountains.
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- Is that so?
- Yeah.
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But it's hard with my hay fever.
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You've got hay fever?
I never knew that.
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Oh, yeah, for years. Jimson
weed gives it to me every time.
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I use an old family remedy my
grandmother handed down, never fails.
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Well, you're going to bring
some up to Arrowhead aren't you?
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Couldn't go without it
even this time of the year.
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Going to make a fresh
batch before we leave.
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Nothing in it but pure water
and a half dozen herbs.
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- Is that so?
- It's a combination of
the herbs that does the trick.
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- Well, that figures.
- Bet you can't
guess what they are.
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No. What are they?
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Sorry, Joe, can't tell
you. Family secret.
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9:30 a.m.
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The conference coordinator was Sergeant
Ron Nelson, Community Relations Division.
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He outlined the duties of discussion group
leaders and recorders to us and several
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others chosen for the job.
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And that brings us to the
discussion groups themselves.
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There'll be 14 in all.
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Each will have a
leader and a recorder.
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Besides taking part
in the discussions,
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the leader's main job is to
keep the discussion going.
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You mean in case nobody
has anything more to say?
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That's it. It's your job
to, well, draw them out.
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Ask questions and don't concentrate
on just a few, involve everybody.
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If you see
somebody just sitting,
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drop the ball on his lap.
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What about the recorder?
What's his job? Taking minutes?
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No. Not exactly.
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We don't expect
you to be secretaries,
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you've just got to keep a record of
any worth while suggestions made.
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If the majority is for them,
well they're worthwhile.
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Now, let me say one
more thing, the topic of
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the conference is as you
know involving the line
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officer and the department's
community relations program.
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Sounds like a simple
subject, but it's not.
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It's more difficult
than you think.
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It's loaded. It treads on toes
and well, it goes against the great.
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Once your group gets into it, expect
fireworks and don't discourage them either.
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They're good. The best
ideas come from arguments.
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But at the same time, don't let
arguments sidetrack your discussions.
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Keep your people on
the ball, focused on the
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topic even if you have
to shout them down.
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- Sergeant,
I'm puzzled about something.
- Yes, sir?
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The topic concerns
line officers in particular,
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yet only a few of them are
going to the conference. Why?
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That's a good point.
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There's been confusion about that
before, but there's a good reason.
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We're not going to teach anybody anything
at the conference... not directly I mean.
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And that's not its purpose.
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And that's why line
officers aren't invited.
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Well, how do you mean, Ron?
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Well, many of you meet
the public that's true,
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but actually it's the
line officer who serves
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under you who makes
the initial contacts.
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It's the patrol officers you supervise who
make the regular everyday associations.
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So as their superiors,
you will go to the
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conference to consider
their problems and hopefully
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find solutions for them.
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And then when you
come back, you will see
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to it those solutions
are put into practice.
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Well in other words,
after we come up with
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some answers, we come
back and pass them on.
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- Is that it?
- That's it exactly.
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- If we come up with any answers.
- You will.
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You're experienced men. You've all been
line officers, nobody's better qualified.
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That's why you were chosen
to go to the conference.
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In short, we're going to
have our brains picked.
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I wouldn't say picked
sir. I'd say explored.
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Now, how's that Ron?
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You'll be surprised by what
you discover about yourselves.
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October 14th 8:50 a.m.
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We left Los Angeles and drove east
along the San Bernardino freeway towards
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the Lake Arrowhead conference.
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11:20 a.m.
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Since there are almost
5700 men in the Los
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Angeles Police Department,
we knew only a few
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of the others who
arrived at the University
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of California's residential
conference center
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at Lake Arrowhead.
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First item on the
agenda, registration.
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Among those chosen
to attend the conference
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were officers from every
bureau and division in
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the department.
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All present to search
for methods by which
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we could more effectively
involve both police
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officers and the public in the
Department's Community Relations Program.
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11:55 a.m.
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After registering, we went to our
quarters to unpack and settle in.
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- Hello. Welcome to Gatehouse Cottage.
- Is that its name?
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Yeah. I guess we'll be sharing
it. Keith Barrett, sergeant, patrol.
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Joe Friday. This is
my partner Bill Gannon.
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- Good to know you.
- Same here.
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I stowed my stuff
in the bedroom.
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- It's kind of small
but if either of you want it.
- No. Anyplace will do.
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- Nice twin beds right here.
- Fine.
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Oh, I better take this one Joe.
It's farthest from the window.
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You do that.
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- I got hay fever, you know.
- Oh, is that so?
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Oh, yeah.
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Nice up here, isn't it? It's
the kind of duty I really like.
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Never been to a
conference before?
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No, but I'm looking forward to this
one... this community relations thing.
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I've got a lot of ideas
I'd like to put across.
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Well, that's what
we're up here for.
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Now, if you ask me, there's only one
reason we got a communication problem
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- We play too many favorites.
- Favorites?
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Sure. And the rest of the people
resent it, you can't blame them.
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- What kind of favorites?
- The minority groups,
all of them.
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- We've got them on our minds.
- Are you saying we shouldn't?
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No, not all.
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But we shouldn't forget
the rest of the world either.
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I didn't know we were.
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You're CROs aren't you?
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- That's right.
- Then that's the reason.
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How's that?
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You're not in a patrol
car cruising the streets.
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- What's that stuff?
- That's my hay fever remedy.
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- Got it bad?
- Real bad. Jimson weed.
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But this fixes it. Just
mix it with a little water.
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Yeah, it's kind of a shame it doesn't
work as well on other things isn't it?
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Yeah? Like what?
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Misconceptions, they
can be dangerous.
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1:45 p.m.
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The conference began
with a keynote address by
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Chief Thomas Reddon
in which he stressed two
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things... the importance
of the Community Relations
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Program and the
necessity for line officers
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to bring its policies
to the public.
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Afterwards, we were divided
into our discussion groups.
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As discussion leader,
I began by asking the
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members of my group
to introduce themselves.
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Sergeant Tom Benson, Traffic.
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Lieutenant Phil Johnson, Vice.
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Sergeant Tom Wallen.
I work Wilshire patrol.
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John Rue, lieutenant,
Central Jail Division.
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Sergeant Sam Hunter,
Training Division.
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I'm Captain Carl
Fuller, Homicide.
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Sergeant Keith Barrett,
Hollywood Patrol.
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Bill Gannon,
Community Relations.
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All right. Thank you gentlemen.
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I have a suggestion Friday. Rank's not
important here. Let's not even use them.
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- Call me Carl.
- All right, sir.
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Now you all know why
we're here... to search
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for and to explore
methods by which the line
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officer can be more
effectively involved in
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the Department's
Community Relations Program.
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It's a good title but they'll
never make a movie out of it.
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I read it and re-read it but
I'm still not sure I understand it.
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Well here's how it
was explained to me.
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Now, it's one thing for the Department to
have a Good Community Relations Program,
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but it's useless if the
officer on the street
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who deals with the
public isn't able to use it.
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Police participation and
things like community
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councils, youth programs,
school and church
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functions all make the
public aware of our problems.
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Involve them in our
aims and our goals.
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But if the line officer who actually deals
firsthand with the citizens isn't able to
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relate to them and
gain their cooperation,
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nothing good at all is
accomplished now is it?
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In other words, we've
got to search for and
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explore methods by
which the line officer can
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put community
relations under practice.
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That's it.
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Methods by which
residents and radio car
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officers can get together
and understand each
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other's point of view.
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There are a lot of people who don't
want to understand that point of view.
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There are people like that sure, but only
because they're resentful and suspicious.
252
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And that's exactly what
we've got to change.
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How do we change it? We won't get
their cooperation by simply asking for it.
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I say in time, we will. In
fact, in certain cases, I have.
255
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It wouldn't have if you
worked in Vice like I do.
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All right. Anybody
else have an opinion?
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00:11:09,402 --> 00:11:12,849
Sure. I do. I agree with Phil,
but he doesn't go far enough.
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There are all kinds of people who
don't want to see our side of things.
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- Name some.
- Well, minority groups
for a start.
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Whenever anybody says minority
groups, they usually mean Negros.
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Now, come on now
that's not really true.
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True or not it doesn't matter.
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Let's talk about the Negro
population as an example.
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You say they don't try to
understand our point of view?
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Or how can they when they think of
the laws we enforce as white man's laws,
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when they think of
us as the other side?
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Whose fault is that?
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Which came first?
The chicken or the egg?
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I repeat. That's exactly the
sort of thing we've got to remedy.
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- It's their attitude.
- We created it.
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All right. Now, that's
past history gentlemen.
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We know the condition
does exist and it's got
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to be changed. Now,
any suggestions on that?
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Sure. Stop leaning over backwards.
Treat the minorities like anybody else.
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Nobody I know
leans over backwards.
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And you can't lump
people together like that.
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Each minority has
its own problems.
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Sure. That's what I mean.
It's their problem, not ours.
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That's where you're
dead wrong fella.
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- How do you figure?
- It is our problem.
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Yeah.
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We're policemen.
283
00:12:19,973 --> 00:12:21,550
6:30 p.m.
284
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No evening session
was scheduled.
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We had an early dinner
and returned to the cottage.
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I saw you two leave the dining
room. No room for seconds?
287
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Promised the wife I
wouldn't put on weight.
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Some of the boys are
planning to walk off the meal.
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- But me, I always
like to relax after dinner.
- Is that so?
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Interesting afternoon wasn't it? Certainly,
a lot of different points of view.
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They didn't seem to think very
much of mine now did they?
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About minority groups,
leaning over backwards?
293
00:12:48,834 --> 00:12:52,647
Yeah. But I'll swear to it. I've seen it
done a hundred times. I've done it myself.
294
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- Why don't you
give us an example Barrett?
- Sure that's easy.
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00:12:55,641 --> 00:12:57,644
Just last week, a couple
of kids in an old hacked
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up hot rodder turning
along Sunset and piled
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- into a tree.
- Uh-huh?
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One was Negro, the other
white. The Negro was driving.
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00:13:02,982 --> 00:13:06,962
- Now you figure out which one
gave me the most trouble?
- The Negro.
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00:13:06,986 --> 00:13:08,264
You know it.
301
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And you figure it was
because he was Black?
302
00:13:10,089 --> 00:13:13,936
Why sure. He was throwing me a
challenge, daring me to do my duty.
303
00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,437
I had to play it down.
304
00:13:15,461 --> 00:13:17,907
- Possible that
you misread his motives?
- How do you mean?
305
00:13:17,931 --> 00:13:20,943
- Maybe there were other reasons
for the things he said.
- Yeah.
306
00:13:20,967 --> 00:13:23,178
He was the driver, the
accident was his fault.
307
00:13:23,202 --> 00:13:24,914
He could have been
frightened couldn't he?
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00:13:24,938 --> 00:13:27,383
He knew he was the one in
trouble, he was reacting maybe.
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- There could have
been another reason too.
- Yeah? What's that?
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Your attitude.
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October 15th 10:30 a.m.
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The second session
was in progress.
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Bill acting as the recorder
noted all suggestions made.
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After the conference,
these and all those
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made by the other groups
would be presented to
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the Chief for consideration
and possible action.
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00:13:56,069 --> 00:13:59,381
Anyway, that's my suggestion. New type
uniforms, something different, you know?
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Look smart, be smart.
319
00:14:01,574 --> 00:14:03,436
Well, that's worth
considering. It's the kind
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00:14:03,460 --> 00:14:05,220
of thing these kids
notice and respond to.
321
00:14:05,244 --> 00:14:08,824
Yes and that's the purpose of community
relations isn't it... to get that response?
322
00:14:08,848 --> 00:14:12,061
I think the uniforms we have now
are about as sharp as you'll find.
323
00:14:12,085 --> 00:14:13,963
Tell me something.
324
00:14:13,987 --> 00:14:18,167
Have you ever taken a good look at
your badge? I mean really looked at it.
325
00:14:18,191 --> 00:14:20,735
Now that's the best
designed shield I've ever seen.
326
00:14:20,759 --> 00:14:23,973
A lot of thought went into this badge
before they old one was discarded.
327
00:14:23,997 --> 00:14:28,610
Now, gentlemen in my opinion, I don't
think we need new equipment designs.
328
00:14:28,634 --> 00:14:31,046
I believe the purpose of
this conference is to see if
329
00:14:31,070 --> 00:14:33,282
maybe we don't need to
redesign ourselves a little.
330
00:14:33,306 --> 00:14:35,384
I'd like to have something
put down... promotions.
331
00:14:35,408 --> 00:14:37,219
What's that got to do
with community relations?
332
00:14:37,243 --> 00:14:41,090
Everything. If a man's happy it
shows and people respond to it.
333
00:14:41,114 --> 00:14:44,293
And the best way to make him happy
is by making it easier to step up in rank.
334
00:14:44,317 --> 00:14:45,560
Or by raising his pay.
335
00:14:45,584 --> 00:14:46,595
Well, that's a good idea too.
336
00:14:46,619 --> 00:14:48,130
Carl, what do you say?
337
00:14:48,154 --> 00:14:50,899
Well, it's going to come up in
every discussion group here.
338
00:14:50,923 --> 00:14:53,268
Since it never does a ny harm to
ask, you might as well put it down.
339
00:14:53,292 --> 00:14:55,770
But I doubt it's going to do
much, community relations wise.
340
00:14:55,794 --> 00:14:57,473
I think it will.
341
00:14:57,497 --> 00:15:00,609
Promotions could get certain old
timers an apartment off the streets?
342
00:15:00,633 --> 00:15:01,610
Old timers?
343
00:15:01,634 --> 00:15:03,912
Most of us here are old timers.
344
00:15:03,936 --> 00:15:06,281
Well I'm not talking about
any of you necessarily.
345
00:15:06,305 --> 00:15:08,117
You'd rather have
recruits on patrol?
346
00:15:08,141 --> 00:15:10,185
We can teach recruits.
They're willing to learn.
347
00:15:10,209 --> 00:15:11,720
We wouldn't be
here if we weren't.
348
00:15:11,744 --> 00:15:12,721
I know one or two who aren't.
349
00:15:12,745 --> 00:15:14,423
Sam, tell us your point.
350
00:15:14,447 --> 00:15:18,027
All right. But I've got several.
I'm in Training Division.
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00:15:18,051 --> 00:15:23,632
We take new recruits and teach them the
new concepts and we do a pretty good job.
352
00:15:23,656 --> 00:15:24,785
But then when they
go out in the field,
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00:15:24,809 --> 00:15:26,168
they're naturally teamed
with experienced men,
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00:15:26,192 --> 00:15:28,170
the old timers.
355
00:15:28,194 --> 00:15:29,705
And in some cases
at least, everything
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00:15:29,729 --> 00:15:31,507
we've taught them goes
right out the window.
357
00:15:31,531 --> 00:15:34,109
The old timer contradicts
most of it and ignores the rest.
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00:15:34,133 --> 00:15:36,011
Like community relations?
359
00:15:36,035 --> 00:15:40,049
Yes. Maybe they don't realize it
but they're outlook is old fashioned.
360
00:15:40,073 --> 00:15:43,118
They need to take a fresh look at
things, a fresh look at themselves.
361
00:15:43,142 --> 00:15:45,921
Keith you're in patrol,
would you say Sam is right?
362
00:15:45,945 --> 00:15:48,890
No, I wouldn't. I don't know
what's bothering him but he's wrong.
363
00:15:48,914 --> 00:15:50,959
Am I? You're a good
example of what I mean.
364
00:15:50,983 --> 00:15:54,629
Well, yesterday you said we'd lean over
backwards to cater to the minority groups.
365
00:15:54,653 --> 00:15:56,932
That's the kind of mixed-up
outlook I'm talking about,
366
00:15:56,956 --> 00:15:59,201
a typical attitude
of an old timer.
367
00:15:59,225 --> 00:16:00,893
But it's not the old
timer who does it, it's
368
00:16:00,917 --> 00:16:02,571
your recruits and I'll
give you an example.
369
00:16:02,595 --> 00:16:05,207
One of my men had one of
your new graduates in the car
370
00:16:05,231 --> 00:16:07,242
with him when they
picked up a liquor store 211.
371
00:16:07,266 --> 00:16:10,179
And when they got there, the senior
man went inside to talk to the store owner,
372
00:16:10,203 --> 00:16:12,114
the new man talked
to the four bystanders.
373
00:16:12,138 --> 00:16:15,451
Oh, he was nice and polite, good
community relations all the way.
374
00:16:15,475 --> 00:16:17,652
He explained the situation
and asked for their cooperation,
375
00:16:17,676 --> 00:16:19,354
he wrote down their
names and addresses.
376
00:16:19,378 --> 00:16:24,259
But the only one he held was
white and he turned out to be clean.
377
00:16:24,283 --> 00:16:25,394
What does that prove?
378
00:16:25,418 --> 00:16:26,595
The other three were Negro.
379
00:16:26,619 --> 00:16:28,063
They could have been clean too.
380
00:16:28,087 --> 00:16:30,432
Two of the three addresses
they gave were false.
381
00:16:30,456 --> 00:16:32,468
White men give false
addresses all the time.
382
00:16:32,492 --> 00:16:33,618
Yeah, but don't you
see? That recruit should
383
00:16:33,642 --> 00:16:34,636
have talked harder
to those three men.
384
00:16:34,660 --> 00:16:38,840
He should have stayed with
it until he got their right IDs.
385
00:16:38,864 --> 00:16:40,375
All I see is a
mistake in judgment.
386
00:16:40,399 --> 00:16:42,377
Maybe he figured the white
man looked more like a criminal.
387
00:16:42,401 --> 00:16:46,615
All right. I'll give you another example,
a street fight Hollywood and Vine.
388
00:16:46,639 --> 00:16:49,451
By the time I got there a motor
officer had separated the two men,
389
00:16:49,475 --> 00:16:51,953
one a Negro and he was the
one who admitted starting the fight.
390
00:16:51,977 --> 00:16:53,555
But the officer had
the white man in cuffs.
391
00:16:53,579 --> 00:16:55,290
So what?
392
00:16:55,314 --> 00:16:57,659
Maybe the white man was a hothead,
maybe he wouldn't stop swinging,
393
00:16:57,683 --> 00:16:59,528
maybe you don't
know all the facts.
394
00:16:59,552 --> 00:17:03,098
What's this got to do with community
relations? Our topic is a line officer.
395
00:17:03,122 --> 00:17:05,501
Dozens of people saw
what that line officer did.
396
00:17:05,525 --> 00:17:07,536
How do you think they're
going to feel about cooperating
397
00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,538
with us now after seeing
him cuff the wrong man?
398
00:17:09,562 --> 00:17:11,873
How could he know it was the
wrong man? He was stopping a fight.
399
00:17:11,897 --> 00:17:15,043
I don't know what you're getting
at, but it sure doesn't sound good.
400
00:17:15,067 --> 00:17:17,078
Not to you maybe,
but that's no surprise.
401
00:17:17,102 --> 00:17:18,447
All right, all right.
Let's settle down.
402
00:17:18,471 --> 00:17:19,848
We're not here to argue.
403
00:17:19,872 --> 00:17:22,917
But, Joe, this is important.
He's got it all wrong.
404
00:17:22,941 --> 00:17:24,824
I've worked with a white
partner and whenever
405
00:17:24,848 --> 00:17:26,755
we investigate a traffic
accident involving a
406
00:17:26,779 --> 00:17:28,657
Negro and a white man, the
Negro talks to me, not my partner.
407
00:17:28,681 --> 00:17:30,825
What does that show?
408
00:17:30,849 --> 00:17:33,795
It shows the Negro feels he'll get a fair
shake from me than from my white partner,
409
00:17:33,819 --> 00:17:36,031
not the other way
around as he says.
410
00:17:36,055 --> 00:17:38,233
You mean you lean over
backwards for your own people?
411
00:17:38,257 --> 00:17:41,770
Sure. Well, yeah.
412
00:17:41,794 --> 00:17:46,408
It's kind of human
nature, isn't it?
413
00:17:46,432 --> 00:17:48,743
I understand him better and
he's bound to get a fair shake.
414
00:17:48,767 --> 00:17:50,345
Sam, was wrong
about the old timers.
415
00:17:50,369 --> 00:17:52,080
How do you mean?
416
00:17:52,104 --> 00:17:54,816
You said some of them needed a
fresh look at themselves didn't you?
417
00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:55,850
That's right.
418
00:17:55,874 --> 00:18:01,144
Shouldn't you have
said, we all do?
419
00:18:04,584 --> 00:18:06,595
4:05 p.m.
420
00:18:06,619 --> 00:18:10,232
The discussion groups reconvened
and continued until early evening.
421
00:18:10,256 --> 00:18:13,168
Community relations
is a two-way street.
422
00:18:13,192 --> 00:18:15,837
Sure our topic is how to
get the policeman involved,
423
00:18:15,861 --> 00:18:19,274
but we've got to get the
citizen interested in him as well.
424
00:18:19,298 --> 00:18:20,975
I have a feeling
that's a separate topic.
425
00:18:20,999 --> 00:18:22,877
Well it might be but
it's a part of this one.
426
00:18:22,901 --> 00:18:24,479
Would you phrase
that as a suggestion?
427
00:18:24,503 --> 00:18:28,950
Sure. Increase public interest
in the individual policeman.
428
00:18:28,974 --> 00:18:31,853
Use all the methods possible,
television, newspapers, radio, and so on.
429
00:18:31,877 --> 00:18:33,288
Got it.
430
00:18:33,312 --> 00:18:35,657
- I've got another
suggestion to make.
- Go ahead.
431
00:18:35,681 --> 00:18:37,666
Well, I think the line
officer would be more
432
00:18:37,690 --> 00:18:39,928
involved with the community
if he knew more about
433
00:18:39,952 --> 00:18:41,597
what's going on in the
neighborhood he patrols.
434
00:18:41,621 --> 00:18:43,665
It's his job to know, any
good policeman would.
435
00:18:43,689 --> 00:18:46,501
I'm not talking about
crime, I mean civic things.
436
00:18:46,525 --> 00:18:49,338
Now if line officers were told at roll
call which schools were planning dances,
437
00:18:49,362 --> 00:18:54,075
which stores are having sales, which local
teens we're leaning... things like that.
438
00:18:54,099 --> 00:18:56,578
- They'd be more involved.
- That's a good idea.
439
00:18:56,602 --> 00:18:58,480
Make the line officer feel
that he was a part of things.
440
00:18:58,504 --> 00:19:01,316
And when a school gets a new
principal or a church a new minister,
441
00:19:01,340 --> 00:19:03,619
he could be asked down
at roll call to meet the man.
442
00:19:03,643 --> 00:19:05,454
That's it.
443
00:19:05,478 --> 00:19:07,422
Makes sense. Put it down.
444
00:19:07,446 --> 00:19:09,291
- Right.
- Now anymore suggestions?
445
00:19:09,315 --> 00:19:10,359
What about you Tom?
446
00:19:10,383 --> 00:19:11,860
Can't think of
anything off hand.
447
00:19:11,884 --> 00:19:13,562
Keith, you should have one.
448
00:19:13,586 --> 00:19:14,663
You know my ideas.
449
00:19:14,687 --> 00:19:16,331
That's right, but
not your reasons.
450
00:19:16,355 --> 00:19:18,500
- I told you my reasons.
- Not really.
451
00:19:18,524 --> 00:19:20,335
You simply told us that
you feel unfair preference
452
00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,471
is being given to minority
groups such as Tom's.
453
00:19:22,495 --> 00:19:23,872
That's a laugh.
454
00:19:23,896 --> 00:19:25,874
To you maybe but I've
seen it time and again.
455
00:19:25,898 --> 00:19:27,676
Like those examples you told us.
456
00:19:27,700 --> 00:19:29,844
Look I can quote a hundred more.
457
00:19:29,868 --> 00:19:31,880
Like last month for
instance, Highland Avenue.
458
00:19:31,904 --> 00:19:33,982
We were called to
investigate a 459.
459
00:19:34,006 --> 00:19:35,950
We found the door to
the apartment smashed.
460
00:19:35,974 --> 00:19:38,086
Every drawer and cabinet rifled.
461
00:19:38,110 --> 00:19:41,723
The owner was away when it happened,
but he'd seen two men watching the place.
462
00:19:41,747 --> 00:19:43,525
He knew their names.
We went to talk to them.
463
00:19:43,549 --> 00:19:45,794
They denied everything.
They were Negros.
464
00:19:45,818 --> 00:19:47,061
So what?
465
00:19:47,085 --> 00:19:49,097
My partner was ready
to back off to believe him.
466
00:19:49,121 --> 00:19:50,999
Now he'd never do that
with Caucasian suspects.
467
00:19:51,023 --> 00:19:52,668
But with them,
he took their word.
468
00:19:52,692 --> 00:19:54,969
Well, I didn't. I knew
they were guilty.
469
00:19:54,993 --> 00:19:56,305
I kept checking and
I found evidence.
470
00:19:56,329 --> 00:19:57,539
Now what a minute, how
did you know they were guilty?
471
00:19:57,563 --> 00:19:58,540
I just knew!
472
00:19:58,564 --> 00:19:59,974
Because they were Black?
473
00:19:59,998 --> 00:20:02,411
No, not because they were Black
because of the way they acted!
474
00:20:02,435 --> 00:20:04,212
- How did they act?
- I can't remember exactly.
475
00:20:04,236 --> 00:20:05,514
Why didn't your partner see it?
476
00:20:05,538 --> 00:20:06,648
How should I know?
477
00:20:06,672 --> 00:20:08,383
You said you knew
they were guilty.
478
00:20:08,407 --> 00:20:11,386
A lot of suspects act nervous,
confused, worried. You know that.
479
00:20:11,410 --> 00:20:12,387
How were they different?
480
00:20:12,411 --> 00:20:14,155
Yeah. How could you be so sure?
481
00:20:14,179 --> 00:20:16,758
Hey, look what is this an interrogation?
What are you trying to prove?
482
00:20:16,782 --> 00:20:19,928
That story you told us the other
night, the traffic accident on Sunset.
483
00:20:19,952 --> 00:20:21,363
The driver who gave you
a hard time, the Negro?
484
00:20:21,387 --> 00:20:22,764
Well what about it?
485
00:20:22,788 --> 00:20:25,667
Any driver in that spot would
have acted the same way.
486
00:20:25,691 --> 00:20:26,901
Now what made
you single him out?
487
00:20:26,925 --> 00:20:28,503
Hey look, lay off me will you?
488
00:20:28,527 --> 00:20:30,539
What about the
example this morning?
489
00:20:30,563 --> 00:20:32,874
What bugged you about the officer
putting the cuffs on the white man?
490
00:20:32,898 --> 00:20:35,276
Was it because he was
innocent or because he was white?
491
00:20:35,300 --> 00:20:36,311
Think about it.
492
00:20:36,335 --> 00:20:39,047
It's hard to be sure.
493
00:20:39,071 --> 00:20:40,114
Because he was innocent.
494
00:20:40,138 --> 00:20:41,616
But you didn't know
that at the time.
495
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,385
What is this? What are
you trying to get me to say?
496
00:20:43,409 --> 00:20:45,420
And what about that
211 you told us about?
497
00:20:45,444 --> 00:20:47,674
When the new recruit
took the phony IDs from the
498
00:20:47,698 --> 00:20:49,858
three Negros, what
really bugged you about it?
499
00:20:49,882 --> 00:20:52,594
The fact that they were innocent
or the fact they pulled a fast one?
500
00:20:52,618 --> 00:20:54,229
Wait a minute. You're
trying to say that
501
00:20:54,253 --> 00:20:56,264
I've got it in for your
people, that I'm prejudiced?
502
00:20:56,288 --> 00:20:58,530
You've said over and
over again, we bend over
503
00:20:58,554 --> 00:21:00,769
backwards too much
to please the minorities.
504
00:21:00,793 --> 00:21:03,204
That could be just another way to of
saying we're not hard enough on them.
505
00:21:03,228 --> 00:21:04,939
Well no. That
isn't what I meant.
506
00:21:04,963 --> 00:21:07,342
Man look at him. That idea
doesn't go down so well does it?
507
00:21:07,366 --> 00:21:09,648
Maybe now you know
why you don't get any
508
00:21:09,672 --> 00:21:12,381
cooperation from the
Black people in your area.
509
00:21:12,405 --> 00:21:13,582
What about the
White people in yours?
510
00:21:13,606 --> 00:21:14,783
How's that?
511
00:21:14,807 --> 00:21:16,217
This morning, you said
you favor your own kind.
512
00:21:16,241 --> 00:21:17,986
Human nature you said.
513
00:21:18,010 --> 00:21:20,622
Maybe that's just another way of
saying you don't play fair with the rest.
514
00:21:20,646 --> 00:21:23,825
Are you saying
that I'm like him?
515
00:21:23,849 --> 00:21:26,060
I'm not saying that at all,
Benson. I don't have to.
516
00:21:26,084 --> 00:21:27,429
Yeah?
517
00:21:27,453 --> 00:21:29,887
You did.
518
00:21:36,529 --> 00:21:38,473
October 16th 2:20 p.m.
519
00:21:38,497 --> 00:21:40,442
The conference was over.
520
00:21:40,466 --> 00:21:43,645
We spent the morning discussing
ways of implementing our suggestions.
521
00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:46,347
Now we were getting ready
to drive back to Los Angeles.
522
00:21:46,371 --> 00:21:49,551
We hadn't seen Keith
Barrett or Tom Benson all day.
523
00:21:49,575 --> 00:21:52,253
You know, I may just decide
to put this stuff on the market.
524
00:21:52,277 --> 00:21:55,123
- Is that right?
- And if I do, I got
the perfect slogan for it.
525
00:21:55,147 --> 00:21:57,959
- I'll bet you do.
- Not a sneeze in the bottle.
526
00:21:57,983 --> 00:22:00,896
Hey have you got room for this
in your bag? I'm all locked up.
527
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,031
Yeah, I could squeeze it in.
528
00:22:03,055 --> 00:22:06,635
Well, Joe, you've got to admit this sure
had been an interesting experience and it's
529
00:22:06,659 --> 00:22:08,537
a great spot up here.
530
00:22:08,561 --> 00:22:11,473
Hey, we've been hoping you'd
get back. Wanted to say so long.
531
00:22:11,497 --> 00:22:14,609
Yeah. We've been looking
for you all morning Barrett.
532
00:22:14,633 --> 00:22:16,778
Yeah.
533
00:22:16,802 --> 00:22:18,513
I went for a walk early.
534
00:22:18,537 --> 00:22:20,348
Been walking ever since.
535
00:22:20,372 --> 00:22:22,951
Trees, the water kind of
help a man see himself.
536
00:22:22,975 --> 00:22:25,954
I guess we all need to take a good
look at ourselves once in awhile.
537
00:22:25,978 --> 00:22:30,158
I did. I didn't like
what I saw Joe.
538
00:22:30,182 --> 00:22:32,994
You guys were right to
lean on me the way you did.
539
00:22:33,018 --> 00:22:35,997
Funny how a man can think
he's one thing and be another.
540
00:22:36,021 --> 00:22:37,806
You may not believe
this but I always thought I
541
00:22:37,830 --> 00:22:39,601
was one of the least
prejudiced people around.
542
00:22:39,625 --> 00:22:41,470
A lot of us think that.
543
00:22:41,494 --> 00:22:46,708
It's quite a thing to see yourself as
you really are, kind of shakes you up.
544
00:22:46,732 --> 00:22:48,944
I wonder if Tom Benson
feels that way too.
545
00:22:48,968 --> 00:22:50,278
Oh, he does.
546
00:22:50,302 --> 00:22:51,613
Yeah?
547
00:22:51,637 --> 00:22:54,304
That long walk?
We took it together.
548
00:23:05,885 --> 00:23:09,263
Well let's see. Did
I forget anything?
549
00:23:09,287 --> 00:23:12,789
I think a lot of us did.
550
00:23:14,627 --> 00:23:16,037
3:40 p.m.
551
00:23:16,061 --> 00:23:19,708
We were packed and ready
to return to Los Angeles.
552
00:23:19,732 --> 00:23:21,943
Certainly a shame to
leave this mountain air.
553
00:23:21,967 --> 00:23:23,979
Got to bring Eileen and the
kids up here sometime for sure.
554
00:23:24,003 --> 00:23:25,380
Yeah, you should.
It's real pretty.
555
00:23:25,404 --> 00:23:26,915
Do them a world of good.
556
00:23:26,939 --> 00:23:28,149
They suffer from hay fever?
557
00:23:28,173 --> 00:23:29,618
No. It doesn't
bother them at all.
558
00:23:29,642 --> 00:23:31,219
Of course, I'd have
to take my remedy.
559
00:23:31,243 --> 00:23:32,320
You didn't think it would work.
560
00:23:32,344 --> 00:23:34,222
Well, most home
remedies don't as a rule.
561
00:23:34,246 --> 00:23:37,526
- You noticed
I haven't sneezed even once?
- Yeah. What's that?
562
00:23:37,550 --> 00:23:39,895
- What's what?
- These pills.
563
00:23:39,919 --> 00:23:41,195
Oh, something my doctor gave me.
564
00:23:41,219 --> 00:23:43,297
- For what?
- My hay fever remedy.
565
00:23:43,321 --> 00:23:44,599
- Your hay fever remedy?
- Oh, yeah.
566
00:23:44,623 --> 00:23:48,559
I'm slightly allergic to it.
567
00:24:10,817 --> 00:24:12,527
The Los Angeles
Police Department's
568
00:24:12,551 --> 00:24:14,096
Arrowhead Conferences
569
00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:17,332
engage 350 key
department personnel
570
00:24:17,356 --> 00:24:19,835
in the identification of
barriers to understanding,
571
00:24:19,859 --> 00:24:22,404
confidence, mutual respect,
572
00:24:22,428 --> 00:24:24,006
and the development of plans
573
00:24:24,030 --> 00:24:26,041
for effective two-way
communication
574
00:24:26,065 --> 00:24:29,511
between the department and
all segments of the community.
575
00:24:29,535 --> 00:24:31,213
From those meetings
came the beginning
576
00:24:31,237 --> 00:24:33,916
of an awareness and
concept, which have developed
577
00:24:33,940 --> 00:24:35,918
into one of the most
effective and comprehensive
578
00:24:35,942 --> 00:24:38,209
police community
relations programs.
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