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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,170 --> 00:00:05,030 We're a weekend out from trial. 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:07,690 Look. 3 00:00:08,690 --> 00:00:10,240 We know what the prosecution's gonna do. 4 00:00:11,310 --> 00:00:12,380 We know what the state's gonna do. 5 00:00:12,380 --> 00:00:13,480 We know what they're gonna throw us. 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:14,890 We know when they're gonna throw it. 7 00:00:14,900 --> 00:00:16,380 We know how they're gonna throw it. 8 00:00:16,380 --> 00:00:17,730 We know how fast it's gonna go. 9 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,170 We know everything about their game plan. 10 00:00:20,170 --> 00:00:23,170 We know where their game plan's gonna end up. 11 00:00:23,170 --> 00:00:25,070 They think we don't know it's gonna end up over there. We do. 12 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,340 We're gonna be there waiting for it. 13 00:00:28,170 --> 00:00:32,580 So when they toss us a little softball, we know. 14 00:00:33,690 --> 00:00:34,760 Michael's right here. 15 00:00:35,480 --> 00:00:36,760 Crush it. 16 00:00:40,900 --> 00:00:42,590 And that'll be it. 17 00:01:08,620 --> 00:01:12,070 I have already lost everything in my life once. 18 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,900 If you were to show up here right here, right now, 19 00:01:14,900 --> 00:01:18,490 and you were to tell me that you've got my youngest son, Ethan 20 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:23,620 and my middle son, Wesley, in your car with you right now, 21 00:01:23,620 --> 00:01:27,590 and you were to tell me, "Mr. Barnett, you can see them for five minutes. 22 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,520 You can smile. You can hug your children. 23 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:36,590 It's only for five minutes, but to do it, you need to cut your arm off." 24 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,790 I'm not even gonna hesitate. Where's the machete? 25 00:01:40,900 --> 00:01:42,280 I will... 26 00:01:43,310 --> 00:01:45,170 I will do anything if I could... 27 00:01:48,410 --> 00:01:50,240 Sorry, I'm gonna get upset. I am. 28 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,480 When this first started, every single night that I lied awake, 29 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,410 I would be picturing every single second in jail. 30 00:02:05,410 --> 00:02:08,380 I'd be going through everything I ever heard of jail. 31 00:02:08,380 --> 00:02:10,480 I'd be Googling, "Hey, what's jail really like?" 32 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,200 and reading the horror stories. 33 00:02:12,210 --> 00:02:14,280 What is at risk? 34 00:02:15,170 --> 00:02:17,550 Everything. Everything. 35 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,790 Sorry about throwing it. I am a thrower when I get mad. 36 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,170 I'm innocent. As long as the truth all comes out, 37 00:02:34,170 --> 00:02:36,960 I have nothing to run and hide from. 38 00:02:39,310 --> 00:02:44,240 But Kristine, she has hidden a lot of things. 39 00:02:46,070 --> 00:02:49,620 During discovery, while the police are gathering their evidence, 40 00:02:49,620 --> 00:02:51,720 requesting evidence and whatnot, 41 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,270 they subpoenaed Kristine's entire Facebook history. 42 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:55,520 Every message she's ever sent. 43 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,210 Every post she's ever made, et cetera. 44 00:02:57,210 --> 00:02:59,180 As part of discovery, my attorney asked me, 45 00:02:59,170 --> 00:03:01,720 "Hey, go through this, and just make sure 46 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,380 there's no landmines that we should be aware of." 47 00:03:05,380 --> 00:03:11,000 So I'm just searching through. There's a name that pops up that I'm just not expecting. 48 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,690 Somebody that brought their kid to our daycare in about 2006-ish. 49 00:03:15,690 --> 00:03:18,900 I know the guy's married, and these are extremely inappropriate, 50 00:03:18,900 --> 00:03:21,560 sexual-nature conversation. 51 00:03:22,900 --> 00:03:25,760 A lot of masturbating together. 52 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,510 "I wanna have three-ways with you and my wife. 53 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:34,450 Can you reach out to my wife for me and invite her?" 54 00:03:37,310 --> 00:03:39,240 And I hit the floor crying. 55 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,590 And then I see all about the handyman 56 00:03:45,590 --> 00:03:47,520 and all about her making out with him 57 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,420 and all about her taking him to a parking lot, leaving the kids at home 58 00:03:51,410 --> 00:03:55,790 and having sex with him in the local McDonald's and Tim Horton's parking lots. 59 00:03:55,790 --> 00:03:58,240 Who does this? 60 00:04:11,900 --> 00:04:14,000 My name is Fred Gill. 61 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,210 I was a celebrity in the country music business. 62 00:04:17,210 --> 00:04:21,000 The thing about being on tour is the lady factor. 63 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,480 Man, I... 64 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,450 Let's just say that I... I soaked all that up. 65 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,690 Good girl. 66 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,410 Kristine reached out to me over Messenger 67 00:04:37,410 --> 00:04:40,580 because they had just adopted Natalia. 68 00:04:40,590 --> 00:04:44,520 And so Kristine had some questions for me about little people 69 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:49,450 and sought some advice, and I was more than happy to share that with her. 70 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,620 Our conversations started off very benign, 71 00:04:52,620 --> 00:04:55,790 and then pretty quickly turned into a chain of messages 72 00:04:55,790 --> 00:04:58,790 that were of a sexual nature. 73 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,490 Kristine tried to entice me into corresponding more 74 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,620 by putting herself out there physically. 75 00:05:09,620 --> 00:05:12,520 There's multiple, multiple messages. 76 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,210 Quite a bit more graphic back and forth 77 00:05:15,210 --> 00:05:18,560 about the kind of things we were gonna do sexually. 78 00:05:22,410 --> 00:05:24,760 It's upside down. She sent that picture. 79 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,070 Talks about the fact that she didn't really see me as small, 80 00:05:30,070 --> 00:05:32,110 that she treated me like everybody else. 81 00:05:32,100 --> 00:05:37,000 I go on talking about my manhood being larger than average. 82 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,380 I asked her if she liked oral. 83 00:05:39,380 --> 00:05:41,480 And she said, "Depends on if the guy's any good at it." 84 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,200 I told her about how I had an ex-girlfriend just about kick me across the room 85 00:05:45,210 --> 00:05:47,760 because I was giving her so many orgasms in a row. 86 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,510 Eventually, I was called by a state police investigator, 87 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,490 asking me about the messages between Kristine and I. 88 00:06:03,170 --> 00:06:06,720 So, I find out about this long after divorce, 89 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:12,000 with a woman that I truly cannot even fathom communicating with. 90 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:17,140 I'm robbed of my ability to confront her on this. 91 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,860 I'm still not ready to stand up to her. 92 00:06:25,310 --> 00:06:27,340 And I'm not ready to... 93 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,590 I hate this. 94 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:35,730 I hate this. 95 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,790 I hate this. I want this to stop. 96 00:06:57,620 --> 00:06:59,900 About two-and-a-half years after my divorce, 97 00:06:59,900 --> 00:07:03,000 Jennifer and I found each other. 98 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:07,310 Jennifer- God bless her- pulls me up, yells at me like a soldier. 99 00:07:07,310 --> 00:07:10,170 She is an angel and a rockstar at the same time, 100 00:07:10,170 --> 00:07:13,310 and she basically gets me back on track, 101 00:07:13,310 --> 00:07:15,860 and that's really important and valuable. 102 00:07:23,380 --> 00:07:26,170 I am so emotionally fragile and delicate. 103 00:07:26,170 --> 00:07:28,380 It's such a house of cards right now. 104 00:07:30,070 --> 00:07:33,350 I few months ago, I had a breakdown. 105 00:07:34,380 --> 00:07:36,790 I had a mental breakdown. 106 00:07:36,790 --> 00:07:38,720 All the pressure and all the weight 107 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,270 and all the constant inability to sleep, 108 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,010 inability to rest, inability to live just all came crashing down. 109 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,310 This is all getting closer and closer and closer, 110 00:07:48,310 --> 00:07:49,620 and it's getting tense and tense. 111 00:07:49,620 --> 00:07:52,790 I checked myself into the hospital in June. 112 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,660 I have no problem talking about this. 113 00:07:55,660 --> 00:07:58,730 I might get emotional over it, but I truly don't have trouble talking about it. 114 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,890 Um... 115 00:08:00,900 --> 00:08:05,590 It was as close as I've been to a third suicide attempt 116 00:08:05,590 --> 00:08:07,690 since the second one. 117 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,580 And it's been 18 years since then. 118 00:08:11,590 --> 00:08:12,870 It... 119 00:08:14,170 --> 00:08:16,240 I have panic attacks all day long. 120 00:08:16,900 --> 00:08:19,040 I have anxiety attacks all day long. 121 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:22,900 Where we are, at my attorney's office, 122 00:08:22,900 --> 00:08:25,730 this is the only place I feel myself anymore. 123 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,620 This is the only place that I feel comfortable and confident, 124 00:08:28,620 --> 00:08:32,380 and I don't feel like somebody might be coming to attack me. 125 00:08:32,380 --> 00:08:34,380 I don't feel safe almost anywhere anymore. 126 00:08:34,380 --> 00:08:38,900 There's always a potential of some random reporter banging on my door 127 00:08:38,900 --> 00:08:42,900 and shouting my name, "Michael Barnett, we know you're in there. Come out!" 128 00:08:45,690 --> 00:08:47,590 It's the story that captured the world's attention. 129 00:08:47,590 --> 00:08:49,070 The bizarre case of child neglect. 130 00:08:49,070 --> 00:08:50,480 The parents from Indianapolis 131 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,070 accused of abandoning their adopted daughter in an apartment. 132 00:08:54,590 --> 00:08:56,900 The Barnett's will have separate trials, 133 00:08:56,900 --> 00:08:59,560 with Michael's just days away. 134 00:09:00,590 --> 00:09:01,690 So, you think they should go to jail? 135 00:09:01,690 --> 00:09:04,280 I feel like I was already robbed of my childhood. 136 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,010 But when I got re-aged, that's when it really hit hard. 137 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,520 It's not right to do that to a child. 138 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:15,070 They should do their time, get it over with, and get right with God. 139 00:09:16,380 --> 00:09:19,900 Michael's trial is coming up, and the judge is ruling 140 00:09:19,900 --> 00:09:24,180 that despite this DNA evidence, age still can't be mentioned, 141 00:09:24,170 --> 00:09:26,380 and that's a big blow to the prosecution 142 00:09:26,380 --> 00:09:31,520 because a lot of their counts had to do with the abandonment 143 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,110 and neglect of a child. 144 00:09:33,100 --> 00:09:38,000 And everything became now abandonment and neglect of a disabled person, 145 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,620 not a child. 146 00:09:40,620 --> 00:09:44,790 Is this trial gonna answer all the questions? No. 147 00:09:44,790 --> 00:09:48,100 The judge has limited the evidence that the jury can hear. 148 00:09:48,100 --> 00:09:53,450 They're not gonna know that Natalia was reaged from eight to 22. 149 00:09:55,380 --> 00:09:57,000 Now, when you were in Lafayette, 150 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,900 you didn't report that you were being neglected. 151 00:09:59,900 --> 00:10:03,560 No 'cause I didn't know... I didn't even know what that meant. 152 00:10:04,790 --> 00:10:07,510 But you didn't know that... You didn't report that, "Hey," 153 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,110 you were left alone, and you don't know what you're doing? 154 00:10:11,100 --> 00:10:14,270 Yes 'cause I didn't know that I could call the police and tell them that. 155 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,110 So, the things that the police said that you said, 156 00:10:17,100 --> 00:10:19,340 you're saying they're lying about that, right? 157 00:10:20,380 --> 00:10:21,860 - Yes. Okay. 158 00:10:21,860 --> 00:10:26,200 And the things that the field case managers said that you said, 159 00:10:26,210 --> 00:10:27,660 they're lying about that, too? 160 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,440 Yes. 161 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,620 Mike, come on in. How you feeling? 162 00:10:39,620 --> 00:10:43,000 Um, great. 163 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,720 - Sure. - I'm ready to whoop some ass. 164 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:50,170 I'm walking into battle where I need certain types of experts, and I've got them. 165 00:10:50,170 --> 00:10:54,270 And so those things are all true, but what I wanna talk about 166 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,490 is the people on the other table are not your friend. 167 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,890 - This is a battle. This is a boxing match. - Yep. 168 00:11:00,900 --> 00:11:05,280 This is pugilism. You have to punch and get punched. 169 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:06,690 I can take a lot of punches, man. 170 00:11:06,690 --> 00:11:08,660 A hundred jury trials under my belt. 171 00:11:12,170 --> 00:11:14,000 One thing has always been true 172 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,380 regardless of the criminal offence. 173 00:11:16,380 --> 00:11:20,900 It's gonna come down to do the jurors like you? 174 00:11:20,900 --> 00:11:22,800 "Was Michael a good parent?" 175 00:11:22,790 --> 00:11:24,270 "Was Michael a good person?" 176 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,690 "Did Michael Barnett abandon his 23-year-old daughter?" 177 00:11:28,690 --> 00:11:30,000 - You're being judged. - Ugh. 178 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,280 Because remember, the question is... 179 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:32,730 - Just the phrase. I'm being judged. - "Did Michael Barnett 180 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,720 abandon his 23-year-old daughter?" 181 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:39,510 The jury is looking to see if you host those negative qualities. 182 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,800 The biggest part is they're gonna listen to your daughter. 183 00:11:42,690 --> 00:11:44,350 And they're gonna listen to what she has to say. 184 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,760 "In my opinion, Michael Barnett's a piece of." 185 00:11:48,900 --> 00:11:52,000 How are you gonna respond to that in front of those 12 people? 186 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,620 I have been practicing for this moment for a decade. 187 00:11:56,620 --> 00:12:00,520 I have put myself through the ringer in my head every night 188 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:01,490 since we started having trouble. 189 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:02,760 Let me ask you this. 190 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,490 How do you feel about Natalia? 191 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,170 Natalia's a human being. Flesh and blood. 192 00:12:08,170 --> 00:12:11,000 Thinking, caring, feeling, emoting person. 193 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,790 Right? Just like you. Just like me. 194 00:12:12,790 --> 00:12:17,200 - You know, I didn't hear you say, "I love her." - No, you didn't. 195 00:12:17,210 --> 00:12:20,110 Let me ask you a question with an anti-answer, 196 00:12:20,100 --> 00:12:21,580 so not so much how do I feel about her, 197 00:12:21,590 --> 00:12:23,380 but how do I not feel about her? 198 00:12:23,380 --> 00:12:26,310 There's not gonna be hate. 199 00:12:26,310 --> 00:12:28,480 There's not gonna be anger. 200 00:12:30,170 --> 00:12:34,480 I've been a part of cases where, you know, 201 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,580 it looks really good, and then it turns on an issue, 202 00:12:38,590 --> 00:12:42,110 and the case that I thought wasn't very good ends up prevailing. 203 00:12:42,100 --> 00:12:44,100 Basically, what I'm trying to say in a nice way 204 00:12:44,100 --> 00:12:45,720 is sometimes, you can have a great case, 205 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,440 the state can have a case, the state still wins. 206 00:12:51,790 --> 00:12:53,270 Yeah. 207 00:13:09,380 --> 00:13:11,520 Here's the deal for the lawyers. 208 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,420 This is only about Michael. 209 00:13:14,410 --> 00:13:19,380 It is imperative that you not bring up Kristine. 210 00:13:19,380 --> 00:13:21,310 We're not defending Kristine Barnett. 211 00:13:21,310 --> 00:13:23,380 We'll only be saying, "Michael Barnett, 212 00:13:23,380 --> 00:13:26,280 Michael Barnett, Michael Barnett." 213 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:30,900 The parameters of this thing is, "Did Michael Barnett 214 00:13:30,900 --> 00:13:35,070 neglect his 23-year-old daughter?" 215 00:13:35,070 --> 00:13:39,280 If you're a juror, and you're hearing that this person's incapable, 216 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:44,520 would it be helpful to you to see her capabilities in a multitude of areas? 217 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,620 So, we have different video clips. 218 00:13:48,620 --> 00:13:50,620 Let's play it. Let's discuss it. 219 00:13:50,620 --> 00:13:52,070 And let's see what we got. 220 00:13:52,070 --> 00:13:55,070 Natalia Barnett running without assistance in 2011. 221 00:13:55,070 --> 00:13:57,420 That's gonna be a good one. 222 00:13:57,410 --> 00:13:58,410 This is at your house, Michael? 223 00:13:58,410 --> 00:14:00,070 This is at my house in Westfield. 224 00:14:00,070 --> 00:14:03,860 This is after the first attempt at Kristine. 225 00:14:04,790 --> 00:14:06,480 She's moving. 226 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:07,790 It's what she's able to do. 227 00:14:07,790 --> 00:14:09,790 What we use that for is to show 228 00:14:09,790 --> 00:14:13,410 that the diminished capacity that they're speaking of in Lafayette 229 00:14:13,410 --> 00:14:16,270 seems to be kind of an apparition 230 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,800 because she was totally capable prior. 231 00:14:18,790 --> 00:14:23,100 And nothing in her life changed other than her geographical location. 232 00:14:23,100 --> 00:14:24,450 Next video. 233 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:26,870 Trash can. Bringing it in. 234 00:14:29,410 --> 00:14:31,960 - It's not even on wheels. No, it's not! 235 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,000 Put that doughnut down. 236 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,310 Put that down. Put that down. Put it down. 237 00:14:39,310 --> 00:14:41,380 - But why? - Put it down. Do me a favor. Put it down. 238 00:14:43,410 --> 00:14:45,270 - Yes, just drop it. Drop it. 239 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:46,690 Man, give me my doughnut back. 240 00:14:46,690 --> 00:14:48,900 - I didn't take your doughnut. - Hold on. Hold on. Not yet. Not yet. 241 00:14:48,900 --> 00:14:50,310 - Stop. Stop. - You can eat, but you can't talk. 242 00:14:50,310 --> 00:14:53,000 We have important issues, guys. 243 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:57,380 We need to stay, you know, focused and not get arrogant 244 00:14:57,380 --> 00:14:59,280 because we have a strong case. 245 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,490 We're in a trial. I'm trying to kick this girl's ass. 246 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,140 I'm not trying to be your friend. 247 00:15:06,100 --> 00:15:10,480 Natalia's age, if, indeed, she was only eight years old, 248 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,410 her knowledge wasn't there. 249 00:15:13,410 --> 00:15:16,200 Well, she wasn't eight years old. She was an adult. 250 00:15:16,210 --> 00:15:18,000 This sounds like you're trying to make excuses 251 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,210 for a woman who dumped her child. 252 00:15:20,210 --> 00:15:22,900 Well, Kyna, that's his job, so— 253 00:15:22,900 --> 00:15:24,180 No, no. Hold on. Hold on, Jackie. 254 00:15:24,170 --> 00:15:26,620 That's not my job, to make excuses, ma'am. 255 00:15:26,620 --> 00:15:30,310 Stop calling me ma'am. My name is Miss Weaver or Kyna. 256 00:15:30,310 --> 00:15:32,410 You can call me either or. 257 00:15:32,410 --> 00:15:35,030 Hey, you need to stay out of this. You're not part of this. 258 00:15:35,900 --> 00:15:37,140 Hey. Stop it. 259 00:15:39,790 --> 00:15:42,000 The Barnetts, what they did is wrong. 260 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:46,100 They're a disgrace. I think that they're crooks. 261 00:15:46,100 --> 00:15:49,070 How dare you play with a human being's life? 262 00:15:49,900 --> 00:15:52,210 What the were you thinking? 263 00:15:52,210 --> 00:15:55,040 You know, it'd be nice to see some... 264 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,520 Some vengeance, some justice for that. 265 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,310 I hope my testimony can reveal the truth. 266 00:16:01,310 --> 00:16:04,000 I hope my testimony can help Natalia. 267 00:16:06,070 --> 00:16:08,620 I hope she can heal from this. 268 00:16:08,620 --> 00:16:14,170 Because she's had a lot of people, professionals, even, let her down. 269 00:16:14,170 --> 00:16:18,620 She needs a wing over her, and she needs protecting 270 00:16:18,620 --> 00:16:21,590 because she's up against a lot. 271 00:16:39,170 --> 00:16:41,450 Today is the day. 272 00:16:42,380 --> 00:16:45,210 I'm getting ready to face my destiny. 273 00:16:45,210 --> 00:16:47,350 A lot of things going through my mind right now. 274 00:16:48,590 --> 00:16:51,250 Almost a sense of relief that it's here. 275 00:16:52,790 --> 00:16:58,380 In an hour, literally an hour, I'll be sitting in front of the judge, 276 00:16:58,380 --> 00:17:00,140 and it's game time. 277 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,280 I'm on stage. 278 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:06,490 My role is gonna be innocent-looking guy sitting still. 279 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,240 Just... 280 00:17:13,380 --> 00:17:14,970 Ah... 281 00:17:31,380 --> 00:17:34,280 I'm Traci Grant outside Tippecanoe County Courthouse 282 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,690 for day one of the Michael Barnett trial. 283 00:17:38,690 --> 00:17:40,380 It's a simple question. 284 00:17:40,380 --> 00:17:45,860 Did Michael Barnett abandon his 24-year-old daughter? 285 00:17:48,410 --> 00:17:51,000 The Barnetts have to be held accountable. 286 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,690 You should be ashamed of yourself. 287 00:17:52,690 --> 00:17:56,520 You put someone through hell. 288 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,070 And it was a child that you put through hell, 289 00:17:59,070 --> 00:18:03,900 who already had a disability and issues and obstacles 290 00:18:03,900 --> 00:18:06,310 that she was gonna have to overcome, 291 00:18:06,310 --> 00:18:08,000 and you put her through hell. 292 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,690 Good people don't do that. 293 00:18:10,690 --> 00:18:13,590 If there's no justice to what happened to her, 294 00:18:13,590 --> 00:18:18,000 then she'll feel like she doesn't matter, and that's not true. 295 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,900 I pray that Natalia has the justice that she seeks, 296 00:18:20,900 --> 00:18:25,070 the truth comes out, and all will understand, 297 00:18:25,070 --> 00:18:28,170 and that God is with her every step of the way. 298 00:18:28,170 --> 00:18:30,580 Amen, and so it be. 299 00:18:33,620 --> 00:18:36,380 A global audience is eagerly awaiting the outcome 300 00:18:36,380 --> 00:18:38,620 of one of the biggest trials of the year. 301 00:18:38,620 --> 00:18:43,690 But due to Indiana state law, cameras are not permitted inside the courtroom 302 00:18:43,690 --> 00:18:46,380 during the trial. 303 00:18:46,380 --> 00:18:49,520 Today, jurors heard from the manager of the apartment building 304 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,380 where the Barnetts placed Natalia. 305 00:18:51,380 --> 00:18:54,790 Prosecutors tried to prove not enough was done 306 00:18:54,790 --> 00:18:57,580 for her to live her daily life comfortably. 307 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,900 Detective Brandon Davenport says Michael had a lot to say 308 00:19:07,900 --> 00:19:12,450 about how Kristine Barnett and Natalia were constantly at odds. 309 00:19:27,210 --> 00:19:32,280 Hearing that comment, that Kristine said Lafayette is a white trash town, 310 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,520 no one's gonna care about her, is not good for the defense. 311 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,180 Michael's associated with Kristine. 312 00:19:37,170 --> 00:19:38,380 That's his wife at the time. 313 00:19:38,380 --> 00:19:39,970 So, yeah, that's not good. 314 00:19:55,070 --> 00:19:57,070 I got a call from my office staff 315 00:19:57,070 --> 00:19:59,070 telling me that this article hit the paper. 316 00:19:59,070 --> 00:20:03,170 One of the witnesses claimed that Michael allegedly made this statement to him, 317 00:20:03,170 --> 00:20:06,620 that they were leaving Natalia here in Lafayette because it's a white trash town. 318 00:20:06,620 --> 00:20:08,900 And now it's in the paper. 319 00:20:08,900 --> 00:20:11,000 We gotta figure out how to deal with this. 320 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,620 We got the entire city pissed off at my client. 321 00:20:14,620 --> 00:20:17,520 I think once he understands the gravity of what's going on, 322 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,180 I'm pretty sure he's gonna decompose a little bit. 323 00:20:20,170 --> 00:20:21,520 He's gonna break down a little bit. 324 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,760 This was a tsunami. We gotta swim our way out of this. 325 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,580 This changes everything. 326 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,450 Day three of the state of Indiana versus Michael Barnett 327 00:20:37,450 --> 00:20:41,590 brought the star witness, Natalia Barnett, to the courtroom. 328 00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:44,450 Using a walker, Natalia was helped onto the stand 329 00:20:44,450 --> 00:20:46,380 to face the man who adopted her 330 00:20:46,380 --> 00:20:49,550 and allegedly abandoned her two years later. 331 00:20:49,550 --> 00:20:50,900 Good morning. 332 00:20:50,900 --> 00:20:54,280 Prosecutors gave Natalia room to describe her medical condition 333 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,140 and how much pain it causes her. 334 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,690 The biggest bombshell in the courtroom 335 00:20:58,690 --> 00:21:04,690 was when Kinnard asked Natalia her birth date, and she had to say 1989. 336 00:21:04,690 --> 00:21:10,140 That reinforced the fact that this case was not going to be based on age. 337 00:21:12,030 --> 00:21:16,060 Towards the end of her testimony, Natalia broke down in tears. 338 00:21:16,070 --> 00:21:20,140 Natalia was the last witness in the prosecution's case-in-chief. 339 00:21:20,140 --> 00:21:22,690 And when she was cross-examined by Michael's attorney, 340 00:21:22,690 --> 00:21:24,450 she was asked a series of questions 341 00:21:24,450 --> 00:21:26,590 where she couldn't remember the answers, 342 00:21:26,590 --> 00:21:30,590 and she was chided and challenged and criticized for not remembering. 343 00:21:30,590 --> 00:21:35,590 But jurors don't know that Anna Gava is Natalia's biological mother 344 00:21:35,590 --> 00:21:38,350 and that Natalia was born in 2003. 345 00:21:38,340 --> 00:21:40,480 So these questions she's being asked 346 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,240 and details she doesn't remember 347 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,790 involve times when she was six, seven, eight, nine years old. 348 00:21:46,790 --> 00:21:50,170 No wonder she doesn't remember. 349 00:21:50,170 --> 00:21:54,690 I can't wrap my head around the fact that jurors don't know 350 00:21:54,690 --> 00:22:00,550 the most fundamental fact in this whole saga, 351 00:22:00,550 --> 00:22:05,860 and that is how old is Natalia Barnett, really? 352 00:22:10,340 --> 00:22:12,270 After closing arguments were completed, 353 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,690 observers in the courtroom said it seemed like a draw, it could go either way. 354 00:22:16,690 --> 00:22:19,410 And now it's in the hands of the jury. 355 00:22:30,170 --> 00:22:31,650 A little upsetting. 356 00:22:32,590 --> 00:22:36,140 Because she should have been my granddaughter, 357 00:22:36,140 --> 00:22:38,660 and she didn't end up being my granddaughter. 358 00:22:45,070 --> 00:22:47,140 One o'clock on a Thursday, why not? 359 00:22:57,450 --> 00:22:59,280 - I know. 360 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,590 Everything that they said in their case was, "Kristine, Kristine, Kristine, Kristine. 361 00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:05,900 Michael wasn't really that bad." 362 00:23:05,900 --> 00:23:07,690 They'll go get her ass. 363 00:23:07,690 --> 00:23:09,590 Every jury is different, 364 00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:13,250 There's no commonality other than their assigned task- 365 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,410 listen to this information, and make a decision. 366 00:23:20,690 --> 00:23:24,790 Nationwide, prosecutors win 98% of their cases. 367 00:23:24,790 --> 00:23:28,890 Yeah, most of them plea, but they also win about the same percentage of trials. 368 00:23:28,900 --> 00:23:30,590 Trials are hard to win. 369 00:23:30,590 --> 00:23:33,250 Don't go telling me that now. 370 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,070 Where was this 98% stuff three years ago? 371 00:23:36,070 --> 00:23:38,590 You were told. You had no choice. 372 00:23:38,590 --> 00:23:40,800 Now the worry can really begin. 373 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,760 What you got here? 374 00:23:48,380 --> 00:23:50,350 That looks like pepperoni. 375 00:24:02,590 --> 00:24:05,280 I think it might be worthy to speak a little bit 376 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,040 about the judge. 377 00:24:07,030 --> 00:24:09,340 He was probably the best judge for this case. 378 00:24:09,340 --> 00:24:13,890 His temperament is even. He gives both sides respect. 379 00:24:13,900 --> 00:24:16,280 - Oh, my, God. Damn it. That's my heart. 380 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,560 - Oh, that's the court. 381 00:24:18,550 --> 00:24:20,760 Is it? - I'll put it on speaker. 382 00:24:22,790 --> 00:24:24,070 Hi, it's Terrance. 383 00:24:24,070 --> 00:24:25,350 Hi, Mr. Kinnard. 384 00:24:25,340 --> 00:24:28,000 It's Ashley from Superior Court II. We have a verdict. 385 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,790 Not a question? 386 00:24:29,790 --> 00:24:32,000 Not a question, a verdict. 387 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,690 Okay. I'm gonna go vomit, and then I'll be right there. 388 00:24:34,690 --> 00:24:36,140 Okay. Bye. 389 00:24:37,030 --> 00:24:38,790 - Oh, 390 00:24:40,690 --> 00:24:42,790 - That was quick. 391 00:24:42,790 --> 00:24:43,960 Quick is bad. 392 00:24:50,030 --> 00:24:51,340 Let's do it. 393 00:24:51,340 --> 00:24:53,200 Yes, sir. 394 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,550 That icy numbness can wash all over me. I can't think. I can't feel. 395 00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:07,070 I don't have words. 396 00:25:07,070 --> 00:25:08,550 - I just don't. Hi. - Hi, sweetie. 397 00:25:08,550 --> 00:25:10,650 - How are you? - I know. 398 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,170 It's in the hands of the jury. 399 00:25:16,170 --> 00:25:18,550 Nothing you can do to change it. 400 00:25:18,550 --> 00:25:19,860 It's done. 401 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,240 Jury deliberations have concluded 402 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,310 in the Michael Barnett trial, reaching a verdict in just a couple of hours. 403 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,380 - I'm going up to four. - Okay. 404 00:25:45,380 --> 00:25:47,000 See you up there. 405 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,870 There's not anything you can do. 406 00:25:56,590 --> 00:25:58,140 You know what? We just finished this case. 407 00:25:58,140 --> 00:26:00,970 We didn't... We're not allowed to talk about adoption. 408 00:26:00,970 --> 00:26:02,250 We're not allowed to talk about age. 409 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,270 We're not allowed to talk about mental health records. 410 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,040 We're not allowed to talk about her stating to us 411 00:26:07,030 --> 00:26:08,580 and saying she wants to kill us. 412 00:26:08,590 --> 00:26:10,690 We're not allowed to talk about the statement saying 413 00:26:10,690 --> 00:26:13,170 that she didn't wanna be around us anymore. 414 00:26:13,170 --> 00:26:17,960 We're coming down to the teeniest circumstantial evidence 415 00:26:17,970 --> 00:26:19,350 from 12 years ago. 416 00:27:33,030 --> 00:27:34,270 Breathe air. Breathe air, 417 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,900 - It might be over? - Over? Well... 418 00:27:37,030 --> 00:27:38,960 Believe it is. 419 00:27:40,030 --> 00:27:44,270 They said I'm not guilty. Like, I'm... Everybody knows. 420 00:27:46,970 --> 00:27:49,490 It's... It's... It's... 421 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,270 It took 12 strangers about an hour-and-a-half 422 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,660 to figure out I wasn't guilty on four felony charges. 423 00:27:58,790 --> 00:28:00,760 It might be over. 424 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,490 It might be over. 425 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,860 The 12 jurors only took a couple hours 426 00:28:07,860 --> 00:28:11,140 to find him not guilty of every count. 427 00:28:11,140 --> 00:28:15,970 All four counts- not guilty. Clean sweep. Complete victory for the defense. 428 00:28:17,170 --> 00:28:21,580 But I'll tell you what. This is not a vindication. 429 00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:24,350 Michael got lucky. Michael dodged a bullet. 430 00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:30,280 Jurors did not have all the facts. 431 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,040 They based their decision on the limited information that they were given. 432 00:28:34,030 --> 00:28:37,890 I would want to ask the jury in Michael's case 433 00:28:37,900 --> 00:28:40,040 if their verdict would have been different 434 00:28:40,030 --> 00:28:45,380 had they known Natalia was an elementary-school- aged child 435 00:28:45,380 --> 00:28:47,690 when she was left to fend for herself. 436 00:28:47,690 --> 00:28:49,380 A child. 437 00:28:49,380 --> 00:28:52,310 Would they have made a different decision? 438 00:28:57,660 --> 00:28:59,110 Oh! 439 00:29:09,380 --> 00:29:10,970 My name is Jayne Parker. 440 00:29:10,970 --> 00:29:14,760 I served as the foreperson for the Michael Barnett trial. 441 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,030 I was born and raised in Indiana. 442 00:29:19,030 --> 00:29:22,100 I'm Hoosier by birth but boilermaker by the grace of God. 443 00:29:24,380 --> 00:29:27,760 During the trial, there's tons of questions 444 00:29:28,380 --> 00:29:30,660 that really never got answered. 445 00:29:30,660 --> 00:29:33,280 As we started the deliberation process, 446 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:39,380 100% of the jurors, 100%, definitely believed 447 00:29:39,380 --> 00:29:43,480 that Michael Barnett was guilty of abandoning her. 448 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:49,270 But because the judge was very, very clear on what we had to follow, 449 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:54,380 people were just like, "Ugh, we have to go 'Not guilty' Ugh." 450 00:29:54,380 --> 00:29:59,970 And that was the tone in the room. "Oh, my God. He's gonna be 'Not guilty.'" 451 00:29:59,970 --> 00:30:01,280 You know, "This sucks." 452 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,800 So that night, when I got home, I was straight on my computer. 453 00:30:05,790 --> 00:30:09,580 I watched the Dr. Phil episode after the trial. 454 00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:11,660 - How old are you? - I'm 16. 455 00:30:11,660 --> 00:30:15,140 - When is your birthday? - Um, September 4th, 2003. 456 00:30:15,140 --> 00:30:17,970 You say you're 16. 457 00:30:17,970 --> 00:30:20,140 Are you a 33-year-old scam artist? 458 00:30:20,140 --> 00:30:21,800 No. 459 00:30:21,790 --> 00:30:23,270 No. 460 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,870 It seems to show that Natalia actually 461 00:30:26,860 --> 00:30:30,790 is closer to 19 now, which would have made her nine 462 00:30:30,790 --> 00:30:33,340 at the time she was left in that apartment. 463 00:30:34,380 --> 00:30:35,970 That's crazy. 464 00:30:35,970 --> 00:30:38,760 You just think, "What a creepy guy. 465 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,110 Who does that with his daughter?" 466 00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:45,130 If that's true, and that we weren't given that information, 467 00:30:45,140 --> 00:30:48,590 that seems like a huge miscarriage of justice. 468 00:30:48,590 --> 00:30:52,040 We felt that Michael Barnett had really gotten away 469 00:30:52,030 --> 00:30:54,690 with abandoning and neglecting his child. 470 00:30:54,690 --> 00:30:57,310 And none of us felt good about that. 471 00:30:59,900 --> 00:31:00,970 Holy. 472 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,590 Yo, Dad. - Jacob! They didn't even have to debate anything. 473 00:31:06,590 --> 00:31:09,870 They went in there, and they knew instantly I was not guilty. 474 00:31:09,860 --> 00:31:12,270 It's not even... They didn't even have to argue or discuss it. 475 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,900 They all knew it. 476 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,100 It is... It is, like, 90% behind me. 477 00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:24,480 I'll have to deal with certain little fallout from it the rest of my life. 478 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,380 Right after the judge got finished reading the verdict 479 00:31:28,380 --> 00:31:31,590 and the jury left the courtroom, 480 00:31:31,590 --> 00:31:34,800 the prosecutor then decided right then and there 481 00:31:34,790 --> 00:31:38,030 to let me know that she has now subpoenaed me to testify against your mommy. 482 00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:44,180 Immediately upon being acquitted, 483 00:31:45,790 --> 00:31:48,480 Michael no longer had a Fifth Amendment right 484 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,170 against self-incrimination, right? 485 00:31:50,170 --> 00:31:53,790 So he was served with a subpoena to testify at Kristine's trial. 486 00:31:53,790 --> 00:31:57,960 Now, you say, "How could a husband be compelled to testify against a wife? 487 00:31:57,970 --> 00:31:58,970 Isn't there a privilege?" 488 00:31:58,970 --> 00:32:00,760 Yes, there is a spousal privilege. 489 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,450 However, there is an exception when a crime is afoot. 490 00:32:06,790 --> 00:32:10,380 This now becomes almost a Rubik's Cube on steroids 491 00:32:10,380 --> 00:32:14,000 because there's more information in the mix. 492 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,900 And they're gonna have a real shot at getting Kristine, his ex-wife. 493 00:32:16,900 --> 00:32:19,280 It appears to me, at least, that the charges 494 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,040 that they brought against Michael Barnett, 495 00:32:21,030 --> 00:32:26,270 they did that somewhat in the sense of a trial run for the trial against her. 496 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,490 It would be absolute beautiful justice 497 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,690 if Kristine Barnett was found guilty 498 00:32:31,690 --> 00:32:36,590 here in Lafayette, Indiana, where she called everyone white trash. 499 00:32:36,590 --> 00:32:39,590 Kristine, is there anything you wanna say? - No comment. 500 00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:41,870 I'd also say to Kristine Barnett 501 00:32:41,860 --> 00:32:43,690 that I hope justice is done 502 00:32:43,690 --> 00:32:47,480 and that, rightfully so, you should pay 503 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:48,890 for abandoning a child. 504 00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:51,000 I hope she goes through hell. 505 00:32:54,900 --> 00:32:57,760 I do think Michael Barnett, what he's been through, 506 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,040 if he had an opportunity to testify against his ex-wife, Kristine, 507 00:33:01,030 --> 00:33:03,270 he would do it in a heartbeat. 508 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,380 You will testify against Kristine, or you won't? 509 00:33:06,380 --> 00:33:11,450 Do I want to testify against my ex-wife, the mother of my children? 510 00:33:12,690 --> 00:33:16,860 What I want is for her to burn in hell. 511 00:33:44,550 --> 00:33:48,790 The emotions after trial, they're up and down. 512 00:33:48,790 --> 00:33:52,130 It's been the first days of natural breathing 513 00:33:52,140 --> 00:33:55,660 that I've had in many years. 514 00:33:55,660 --> 00:34:01,250 It has truly felt like there is a ten-ton anvil over my head. 515 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,970 Right up there. 516 00:34:03,970 --> 00:34:07,800 And unfortunately, that anvil is connected by just one single thread. 517 00:34:07,790 --> 00:34:08,890 Teeny, tiny, little thread. 518 00:34:08,900 --> 00:34:12,140 And if that wasn't, you know, stress-inducing enough, 519 00:34:12,140 --> 00:34:16,380 there's, like, a cartoon cayote up there with a giant pair of scissors. 520 00:34:16,380 --> 00:34:19,970 That just chop and crush me. 521 00:34:19,970 --> 00:34:22,590 That's not there now. 522 00:34:22,590 --> 00:34:27,010 So as the trial ended, Natalia and I had this moment together 523 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,170 while everybody's off in a sidebar 524 00:34:29,170 --> 00:34:30,860 where there's nobody left in the courtroom. 525 00:34:30,860 --> 00:34:35,960 All I can see is Natalia. 526 00:34:35,970 --> 00:34:41,070 So as we're having this moment together, we lock eyes. 527 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,660 She just looks at me and does, like, a little wave. 528 00:34:44,660 --> 00:34:47,350 A little wave back from me. 529 00:34:48,170 --> 00:34:50,650 And I mouthed something to her, 530 00:34:50,660 --> 00:34:53,690 and I think she was able to get it. 531 00:34:53,690 --> 00:34:59,380 I just simply said, "This is hard. I'm sorry." 532 00:34:59,380 --> 00:35:01,280 Now, she was going through something really tough. 533 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,560 Turning Natalia's testimony and depositions, 534 00:35:03,550 --> 00:35:09,590 it was a relief to me to honestly hear her describe some of the things 535 00:35:09,590 --> 00:35:12,140 that Kristine did to her. 536 00:35:12,140 --> 00:35:14,970 Kristine trying to beat the truth out of her. 537 00:35:14,970 --> 00:35:19,010 But she didn't expand on that. 538 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,860 There was no additional, "Oh, and Michael this, and Michael that, 539 00:35:21,860 --> 00:35:23,790 and Michael this" because Michael didn't. 540 00:35:23,790 --> 00:35:28,480 I'm not the bad guy. I'm not a bad guy. I'm not mean. 541 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,860 I didn't harm her. 542 00:35:30,690 --> 00:35:33,830 One moment I'm exonerated. 543 00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:36,690 I am... It's over. 544 00:35:36,690 --> 00:35:41,860 I have fought a very-hard-fought victory. 545 00:35:41,860 --> 00:35:45,690 And my brain is saving strength for the fight 546 00:35:45,690 --> 00:35:47,590 that I've got coming. 547 00:35:47,590 --> 00:35:50,490 So, as far as me being subpoenaed 548 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,690 to potentially testify at Kristine's trial... 549 00:35:52,690 --> 00:35:55,170 Because I've just gone through what I've gone through, 550 00:35:55,170 --> 00:35:57,760 I have got protection called double jeopardy. 551 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,380 Double jeopardy basically meaning anything that came out 552 00:36:01,380 --> 00:36:04,590 during the investigation of this case, 553 00:36:04,590 --> 00:36:06,970 they can't go back and charge me for. 554 00:36:06,970 --> 00:36:11,140 The prosecutor had made it very, very verbally clear 555 00:36:11,140 --> 00:36:15,110 they're going after Kristine, and they want her in the ground. 556 00:36:20,900 --> 00:36:22,350 She's petrified. 557 00:36:23,170 --> 00:36:25,270 She's scared to death, and she knows it. 558 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,210 I want Kristine to go to jail. 559 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,630 There's not a line she's not willing to cross. 560 00:36:33,030 --> 00:36:34,790 I don't care what Kristine's gonna say about me, 561 00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:36,790 and I'm going to assume the worst at all times. 562 00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:41,240 And she has already done all the damage to me that she can do. 563 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,280 What else is she gonna do? 564 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,560 What's she gonna do? 565 00:36:57,170 --> 00:37:00,790 As far as this trial goes for Kristine, 566 00:37:00,790 --> 00:37:03,270 when I got the call from a Detective Davenport 567 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,280 from the sex trafficking division of Indiana state police, 568 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,900 I was kind of taken back because of my past 569 00:37:08,900 --> 00:37:13,140 and enjoying the company of women, 570 00:37:13,140 --> 00:37:15,180 sometimes paid-for women. 571 00:37:15,170 --> 00:37:19,000 Just gonna say. I'm not a bad guy, but guys have needs. 572 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,590 Anyhow, um... 573 00:37:20,590 --> 00:37:23,690 And he said, "Well, this is Detective Davenport from Indiana state police. 574 00:37:23,690 --> 00:37:28,690 Do you know Kristine? They adopted a young woman, Natalia." 575 00:37:28,690 --> 00:37:31,790 I said, "Yeah, I think she mentioned something about that." 576 00:37:31,790 --> 00:37:35,130 And he wanted to know if I'd ever dated Natalia, 577 00:37:35,140 --> 00:37:38,280 and I kind of was... Well, I was, like, flabbergasted. 578 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:44,140 Basically, someone asking me had I ever had sexual relations with Natalia. 579 00:37:44,140 --> 00:37:46,760 In my mind, I'm thinking, "What the are you talking about, dude?" 580 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,480 I'm like, "Whoa." 581 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,270 You know, I'm gonna say, it definitely took my breath away. 582 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,590 "You don't have to feel bad," he said. "Even if you kissed her, I need to know, 583 00:37:55,590 --> 00:37:57,690 but you're not gonna get in trouble," I think is what he said. 584 00:37:57,690 --> 00:38:03,040 And I said, "No, I've never been intimate with a little person ever 585 00:38:03,030 --> 00:38:04,860 in my entire life. I know that, 586 00:38:04,860 --> 00:38:09,480 so I know that I never... That this is not somebody I met and forgot about." 587 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,960 And I had met Kristine and Jacob when I was on the road. 588 00:38:12,970 --> 00:38:16,180 I don't know how the officer, the detective, got my name, 589 00:38:16,170 --> 00:38:19,380 other than maybe he saw on the message 590 00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:22,040 where Kristine tried to set me up with her. 591 00:38:22,030 --> 00:38:25,380 But I didn't take the bait. No reply from me. 592 00:38:25,380 --> 00:38:27,690 I just went, like, "Eugh." 593 00:38:27,690 --> 00:38:31,040 It gave me shivers to think that anybody would even remotely do that. 594 00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:33,790 I don't go there, and I think that people that do go there 595 00:38:33,790 --> 00:38:35,270 need to have their balls chopped off. 596 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,110 It just really is disgusting. Yeah. 597 00:39:07,140 --> 00:39:09,970 I... I... I... I'm not gonna pay attention. I truly don't care. 598 00:39:30,030 --> 00:39:31,860 We have had many pushes and pulls. 599 00:39:31,860 --> 00:39:33,790 This is the last thing I'll do. 600 00:39:33,790 --> 00:39:37,100 Everything else from now on that I say, "No" is no. 601 00:39:41,660 --> 00:39:42,940 Whose computer is this? 602 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,860 How many pieces do you want it back in? 603 00:39:45,860 --> 00:39:47,830 - I'm not kidding. 604 00:39:48,860 --> 00:39:51,550 I don't care what's in this. 605 00:39:51,550 --> 00:39:56,170 It... It truly doesn't affect me 606 00:39:56,170 --> 00:39:59,930 what Kristine tells random people in the public about me. 607 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,790 Kristine told me in a series of messages 608 00:40:05,790 --> 00:40:09,270 Natalia ruined her life in so many ways. 609 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,660 Kristine basically said that Natalia started... 610 00:40:13,660 --> 00:40:16,010 no! 611 00:40:17,140 --> 00:40:18,450 Guys, mics off. 612 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,110 Look, I don't wanna talk about this part at all. 613 00:40:26,100 --> 00:40:28,960 When I testify in the trial of Kristine Barnett, 614 00:40:28,970 --> 00:40:33,180 I'm gonna be doing the right thing, telling the truth. 615 00:40:33,170 --> 00:40:35,100 I guess I'll see you guys in court. 616 00:40:44,860 --> 00:40:47,550 Michael's trial is over. 617 00:40:47,550 --> 00:40:50,450 He won. He's a free man. He has his liberty. 618 00:40:51,970 --> 00:40:54,380 He may still have to answer to some of this, though, 619 00:40:54,380 --> 00:40:56,140 in the court of public opinion. 620 00:40:56,140 --> 00:41:00,380 Michael Barnett being found not guilty was very disturbing and infuriating. 621 00:41:00,380 --> 00:41:03,860 Everything was stacked against Natalia. She didn't have a chance. 622 00:41:03,860 --> 00:41:06,860 Poor Natalia. We can't do this to her. 623 00:41:06,860 --> 00:41:08,690 You have to be held accountable 624 00:41:08,690 --> 00:41:11,040 for the decisions you make in life. 625 00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:15,380 This whole Natalia situation, don't think I'll ever deal with it again. 626 00:41:15,380 --> 00:41:18,450 You know, knock on wood, but it was just a nightmare. 627 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,550 The whole cliche of, "Time heals all wounds," 628 00:41:24,550 --> 00:41:26,550 I don't think it's really all that true. 629 00:41:27,380 --> 00:41:29,170 But it just makes it so you can move on. 630 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:35,930 I think time now needs to start doing its job. 631 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,900 It was an odd feeling that Michael Barnett really got away. 632 00:41:40,900 --> 00:41:41,970 It was something. 633 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:57,760 It's okay. 634 00:42:05,790 --> 00:42:07,580 That's all right. You're not getting the crying version. 635 00:42:07,590 --> 00:42:09,870 If you want the crying version, I'll buss that one out.49457

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