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part two
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thank
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L a P d
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L a P d I'm looking for congresswoman
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sentence please
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you tell me which table she's at
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there you go ma'am
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a former district attorney
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the highest ranking woman
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on the House Judiciary Committee
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and I can tell you from personal experience
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the maker of one mean Margarita
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she has devoted her entire career to sing to it
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that the prerogatives
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envisioned by those who founded this country
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are enforced by our legal system
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that the promise of life liberty
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and the pursuit of happiness
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is passed on to each individual
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and to each generation
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ladies and gentlemen excuse me
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Congresswoman Simmons oh
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thank you for coming can I find you after the reception
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ah Deputy Chief frankly Johnson
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prior to homicide ma'am
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I need to talk to you as soon as possible please
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is this about home and security
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no ma'am
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it's about your daughter
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um five minutes okay
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oh my God
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chief
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so this is about my daughter
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what's what happened
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is there somewhere I can talk to you about yourself
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I prefer Larry stay alright um
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is this your daughter
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oh yes
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why oh
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they scare me what happened
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what happened I'm sorry
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to inform you that your daughter was found murdered
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in your house this morning
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you sure it was her
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what at the moment
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it looks like she died from a blow to the head
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but their indication she may have been raped as well
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wait a minute are you sure
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do you have crime scene photos
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ma'am I don't think you wanna see this
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I have to know for sure
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oh
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I will take care of the reception
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and I'll have your car brought around back
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who found her she didn't show up for work this morning
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and didn't phone in
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her boss got a hold of the guy she rents from and
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yeah
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have you made an arrest is your daughter dating anyone
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a boyfriend no
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no one serious
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do you have any leads
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had she mentioned anyone threatening her lately
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did she say anything look
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I know you trained not to answer my questions
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but I'm not just a mother
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I'm a former da do you have any leads
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I'm sorry to try and talk to you
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such a terrible moment man
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we'll talk later wait no
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no please wait
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Carla is not the kind of girl that people wanna hurt
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she she doesn't have stalkers
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oh God
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this is terrible oh
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Johnson Gabriel we're already on the side
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there were no signs of forced entry
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so maybe he was someone calling new oh
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just met lieutenant how did this go
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judging from the blood general disturbance in the room
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the attack started here
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ended up over here and we think
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we found some prince
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that definitely belong to the attacker
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and I've talked to some of Carla's friend
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she's been seeing someone the last few months
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broke it off two weeks ago name
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she hadn't introduced him to anyone
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if you could get a name to go with that boyfriend
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I'd like it
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my mom said she wasn't dating anyone
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has your mother met everyone
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who spent the night at your house
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God I hope not
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Brit Harlan mid level marketing executive
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Carly shared an account with his company
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so they work together some
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I think explains why she kept it quiet
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what does he have no record
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communications degree is as bad as it gets
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does he know why we asked him to come down here
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no I just called him at work
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told him we need to speak with him
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where are the fingerprint reports on this guy
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this is taking too long lieutenant
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Tao is working on the stuff from the shoe boxes
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right now
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I'm trying to see if it matches up to our attacker
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with G why do you need an earpiece
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no pro
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I don't wanna scare him
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so I'm trying to look like your sister
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how am I doing
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give me another coffee
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nice try
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you stay here and listen
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if I say follow up on something in there
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that means I want you to follow up
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and if that fingerprint report comes in while I'm gone
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I wanna hear about it
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yes ma'am
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sorry hi hi
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um
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do I need a lawyer no no
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oh I'm not supposed to say that
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oh I'm not supposed to say no
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hi I'm Brenda hi
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I'm Brett nice to meet you
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you too well
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you could get a lawyer if you wanted to
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but I don't think you need one
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for the stuff that they want me to ask you
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so I'm not like in trouble or something oh
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nobody told you no
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and I've been waiting here a long time now
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oh no they were supposed to
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people called you were supposed to explain um
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oh no um
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those detectives
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see there's this list um that we have
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about 100 guys who were supposed to check out for this
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rape
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a rape
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what put me on this list I mean what
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what do I have to do with anything
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probably nothing I
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I was actually told we're eliminating suspects
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what rape who is raped
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we're not allowed to identify rape victims
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oh this is so embarrassing
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um look um
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we'll go through these questions really fast okay
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I don't mean to hurt you but I'm so behind
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what questions very easy
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where were you between 9 p
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m and twelve
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at a bar with a friend of mine
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uh Brad
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okay I just need to get Brad's number
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in case we need to follow up
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7 great that's a cell
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thank you buzz
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let's see what else
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oh you have to swap your cheek
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oh no oh
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shoot
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oh
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here it is look
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why am I on this list
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you wanna check yeah
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okay I
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I mean
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yeah okay please
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oh what
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oh oh what what what
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what is it
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some of your stuff was found at the victim's house
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an electric razor a baseball cap
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oh my God Carla
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oh sir
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was raped oh
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we're not supposed to oh no
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oh my God please
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you're not supposed to know that
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oh my God look
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is she is she alright
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um but Carl and I dated for six months
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we only just broke up
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I think I have a right to know what's going on here
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okay
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did she say that I have something to do with this
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oh no sir
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no one is accusing you of anything
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it's just that they found your stuff at Emily's house
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so oh
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that's because she was holding on to it until I
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I I gave her her key back that
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that's all oh
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our schedules just haven't been able to
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oh my God
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look is she alright I
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um
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you know I
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I warned her when we broke up
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I told her that if she wanted to do this
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weird stuff weird stuff
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oh maybe I should write that down
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no no
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no no
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it's okay it's just routine
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thank you for the confirmation
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fingerprints on this guy's razor
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don't match up with the killers
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damn it I've heard a lot of weird things around here
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you can tell me I've probably heard worse
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Chief Brits Prince do not match the rapist
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it's just um you know drugs
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drugs and uh
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role playing
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she wanted to experiment sexually
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look I think I should call her to see if she's okay
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you know she might need me or something
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so is there anything else you want from me
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I need you to lift your shirt
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we've got some blood that we can't identify
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blood
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who who's blood at the crime scene
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please sir
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if you could just lift up your shirt real quick
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it it
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it'll it'll just be a second
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who's blood
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Carla's blood
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genuinely sorry to tell you that uh
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during the attack Karl Simmons was she died
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someone killed her
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sorry Sir
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Chief Hope wants to see you
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my strongest lead is dead end
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you cannot release my crime scene
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this ID has already been through everything twice
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it's all memorialized
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you have the dresser and her computer
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Carlos mother wants the rest of her daughter's things
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okay
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she's an emotional wreck right now and she's really
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really
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she's trying to assert herself into this investigation
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Congresswoman Simmons was one of us
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would it okay to make a friend out of her
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instead of an enemy
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look you have until tomorrow morning
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send one of your guys over there
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and have them get what you need
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we're in the middle of interviews
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our friends our co workers wait
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I don't know how else to say it
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if you want something from the house go get it
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I could stay if you want no
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it's not necessary thank you
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well actually um
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her key is the only one we got
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and it has do not duplicate stamp on it
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uh huh and I'm responsible for it
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uh huh
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I'll keep it
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and just leave the front door open for you
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while you're here okay
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okay have a good dinner okay good night
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feel that in your gut
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get off me you're gonna find out
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take your mask off
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take your mask off now
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do it I'm killing it okay
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please please don't shoot me
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you're under arrest for breaking
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an enemy assault on the police officer
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wait wait
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wait we have to break
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I'm trapped someone just move your little finger
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I'm gonna blow your head off
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shoot
292
00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:40,820
if you don't like it
293
00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:45,320
Fritz
294
00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:48,620
did I wake you up
295
00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:49,880
oh no
296
00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:50,940
I shouldn't have called
297
00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:52,160
oh no no
298
00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,160
no it's fine
299
00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,300
really go back to sleep
300
00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:55,440
no no
301
00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,940
no it's no big deal it's just
302
00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,260
just kind of a rough evening
303
00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:04,720
and I just you know
304
00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,520
I just thought fewer up and all yeah uh
305
00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,200
we uh process the guy
306
00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,360
he's in the interview room
307
00:17:11,360 --> 00:17:13,040
and the congresswoman's in Pope's office
308
00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:14,860
waiting to hear what we got okay
309
00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,180
okay um
310
00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:17,560
no no
311
00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,500
you know what I I'm gonna go watch an interview
312
00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:21,600
no no
313
00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:22,480
no no
314
00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:23,720
it's fine really um
315
00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:24,700
go back to sleep
316
00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:26,660
no really now
317
00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,560
good night okay
318
00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:29,360
good night
319
00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:30,880
are you okay yeah
320
00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:31,760
no I'm fine
321
00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:32,940
uh where is he
322
00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:34,500
uh interview room
323
00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:39,320
sure you want me to do this
324
00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:40,320
yes yes
325
00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:41,800
I don't think I could be objective
326
00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:42,760
you'll be fine sergeant
327
00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:43,560
I'm sure
328
00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:45,760
volume here up and down
329
00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,000
the camera turned off
330
00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,620
I'll be right outside if you need me
331
00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:49,660
thank you boss
332
00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,160
you need to clear the room real well I
333
00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:54,500
I feel differently
334
00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:57,840
are you okay yeah
335
00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:58,560
here sit down
336
00:17:58,560 --> 00:17:59,660
for God's sake no
337
00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:00,960
why don't you just go home
338
00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:01,800
honestly will
339
00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,860
I'd rather stand please don't don't
340
00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:05,640
don't make such fuss okay
341
00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,500
it's not like I got shot or anything
342
00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:18,540
Andrew Lyle Gage you're under arrest
343
00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,660
for the attempted rape and battery of a police officer
344
00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,840
anything you say can and will be closed against you
345
00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:25,160
whoa no
346
00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:26,240
no no please
347
00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:27,520
you have the right to an attorney
348
00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,080
you just mistake you cannot afford an attorney
349
00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:30,920
you need an attorney
350
00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,480
I'm not the one breaking the law here
351
00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,280
you understand the right Mister Gay
352
00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:35,580
you don't need an attorney
353
00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,800
I'm married no one can know about this
354
00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:41,940
I have children
355
00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,880
I understand how old are you kids huh
356
00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:45,840
you think they're up for here
357
00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,740
and daddy plays and mommy's away
358
00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,900
look everything here is legal
359
00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:54,920
okay for consensual adult
360
00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,880
so your wife consent to you raping other women huh
361
00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,100
wow that's a new one
362
00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,740
that's a new one it's pretty tough stuff man
363
00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:03,620
you play hard huh
364
00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,900
brought what I thought she would like hmm
365
00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,020
you look at me
366
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,120
she was the tough one okay
367
00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:11,160
and tell me this if you ask to be raped
368
00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,440
then I could be surprised
369
00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,200
surprises for you no
370
00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,560
I wanna see his face by leaving the door open
371
00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,240
the door was shut and the girl from the other night
372
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:19,400
she was asking for it too huh
373
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,680
what girl has the other girl at the same house
374
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:22,860
don't play with me
375
00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,240
I don't know anything about anyone last night
376
00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:27,800
and when I say
377
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,300
the woman who did this to my face was asking for it
378
00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,520
I mean she was really asking for
379
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,340
asking how online
380
00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,020
look at my bag you'll see it
381
00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,280
she had a personal on the Jones list
382
00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,460
under women seeking men S&M
383
00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,200
if his directions were addressed
384
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:43,900
what she wanted me to do look at it
385
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,380
I was responding to her that's all
386
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,620
she was literally asking for it
387
00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:55,920
okay alright
388
00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:56,960
stop the interview will
389
00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,480
please tell sergeant cable
390
00:19:58,480 --> 00:19:59,660
stop the interview will
391
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,620
Miss Johnson are you alright
392
00:20:14,360 --> 00:20:15,780
better things have happened to me
393
00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:18,280
Congresswoman Simmons I just wanna say
394
00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,360
I know that what happened to you is awful
395
00:20:20,360 --> 00:20:21,440
but I really think that you should
396
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,280
let us finish our investigation
397
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,240
before asking for this progress report
398
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,220
do you have children
399
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,260
no but I won't even try and explain
400
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,100
please continue
401
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,560
tell her what we know okay
402
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:38,700
alright um
403
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,560
first of all the man that we arrested tonight is
404
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,120
not the man who killed your daughter
405
00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:45,380
his prince don't match any we found at the house
406
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:46,800
alright
407
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:48,100
anything else
408
00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:49,860
are you aware that your daughter used drugs
409
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,080
I see we don't have to wait for the defense
410
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,440
to demonize the victim
411
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,280
do you know that until recently Carl had a boyfriend
412
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,520
I heard about the boyfriends when they became serious
413
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,760
did you know that your daughter put ads for sex
414
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:01,700
on the internet
415
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,700
I don't I don't have my reading glasses
416
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,180
it's from the Jones list it's a uh
417
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,040
website that posts lots of different material
418
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:19,160
including personals heading is beauty needs Beast
419
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,860
and there's a picture of Carl on the bottom
420
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:23,620
you want me to read the text
421
00:21:24,360 --> 00:21:27,320
yes I'm young and sexy and I've been very
422
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,040
very bad if you're looking for someone to punish
423
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,380
to dominate and control I need you
424
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:33,320
come to 3 5
425
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,880
4 seater I'll leave a key under a rock by the door
426
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,280
enter quietly undress
427
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:38,280
take me by surprise
428
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,300
take my mouth shut so I can't scream
429
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,340
I don't want to know you excuse me
430
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:43,280
excuse me
431
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,620
Carla did not write that filth
432
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:50,040
excuse me
433
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,140
how did you find that ad
434
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:56,940
through someone who responded to it
435
00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,640
it's still posted I believe
436
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,260
the congresswoman would consider it a personal favour
437
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,160
if you could get that thing down
438
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,080
it'll be down in the morning
439
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,060
trust me well
440
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,020
excuse me Willow
441
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,220
we'll be in touch
442
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:15,960
look she had to find out about it
443
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:16,900
sooner or later
444
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,820
at the end of the investigation on the middle
445
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,580
the ad can't be changed it's the inciting incident
446
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,720
she was asking to be raped
447
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,140
well she wasn't asking to be murdered
448
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,780
hey what happened
449
00:22:34,360 --> 00:22:35,800
I can't believe you got dressed
450
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,340
and came all the way down here
451
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,300
hey are you alright
452
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:42,720
oh sorry
453
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,220
sorry sorry it's okay
454
00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:51,260
wow that looks painful
455
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:53,860
you should see the other guy
456
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,820
wanna talk about no
457
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,160
no not really
458
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,100
no okay
459
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,580
there you go
460
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,820
I should do
461
00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:19,480
thanks thanks
462
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:20,840
so um
463
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,340
you've been here before it's um
464
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,680
pretty self explanatory we've got a fridge
465
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:32,320
I've got um milk and apple juice and stuff
466
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,120
and let's switches over there
467
00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:36,200
I've got some cereal here
468
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,040
and I've got this cat that I feed
469
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,300
she's not very friendly but where are you going
470
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,140
did Jessie sleep over not here
471
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,340
I mean um
472
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:48,620
I mean on the sofa
473
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,980
oh I'm sorry
474
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,180
I'm sorry um
475
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,620
it's just that I've been in the room with uh
476
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,280
two half naked men today already and uh
477
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,740
it's just about all day I completely understand
478
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:05,600
do you
479
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,420
of course I know
480
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:08,240
of course
481
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,060
okay so um
482
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,560
the sofa bed uh
483
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,160
you just take off the cushions and I work this off bed
484
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,400
Brenda it's fine
485
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,600
go to sleep get some rest
486
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,660
I'll see you in the morning okay
487
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:28,600
good night
488
00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:40,500
women torturing men
489
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,700
it's a category for guys who haven't been married
490
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:45,520
how many those things you gonna read
491
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:46,760
it's research town
492
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,380
we got it from the personal section of the Jones list
493
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,960
are you turned on by movies where a hunky
494
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,760
young sailor is stripped to the waist
495
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,400
tied up and flog
496
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,580
what is with you white people and whips
497
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,960
she recreates historically accurate scenes
498
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,520
with replicas of wits okay lieutenant
499
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,520
that's enough
500
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,560
just because a handful of people are interested in
501
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,620
handful try a million
502
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,320
a million
503
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:11,720
you're telling me
504
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,460
a million people log on to those personals a year
505
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,020
no ma'am a million a week
506
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:23,780
come on
507
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,540
LAPD we have a warrant to search these premises
508
00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:32,920
hey hey
509
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:33,720
hey hey
510
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,940
don't even think about touching that
511
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:36,940
whatever it is
512
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,140
who's that I'm guessing it's at the Gouser
513
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:41,520
a magnet here
514
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,000
wired to erase information on these servers
515
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,340
here and here kind of like an electronic toilet
516
00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:50,000
Lieutenant Provinza could you please make sure
517
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,000
we have all the employees in this room please
518
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,640
we run a respectable business
519
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,840
Mr Jones this is a murder investigation
520
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,840
this is paramilitary interference
521
00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,680
in the exercise of free speech
522
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:00,080
honey honey no
523
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:00,760
no no
524
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,440
it's beginning is about police state sir
525
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:02,920
look at this
526
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,760
all we're asking you to do is take down one word page
527
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,720
and give us the names of everyone who's viewed it
528
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,860
our customers depend on us for their privacy
529
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,680
I will sue your asses off
530
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:12,520
and I'm not kidding
531
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,720
if you don't provide us with the information we'll need
532
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,900
I'll arrest you and I'm not kidding
533
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,600
we're a membership site
534
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,960
so we can track people after they've logged on
535
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,400
everyone who visited this young lady's site will be
536
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,460
in these stacks names
537
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,300
addresses credit cards
538
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,140
at least we found a murderer
539
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,460
and just so we're clear
540
00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:35,440
we're not here to play whole monitor to the world
541
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,060
we don't control content
542
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:37,880
you see
543
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,860
nothing wrong with facilitating rape on your website
544
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,780
look stopping rape and murder is your job
545
00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:46,640
not ours so if you're done here
546
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,080
could we please get back to what we were doing
547
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,620
sure absolutely sir what the hell
548
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:54,480
see me
549
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,700
over 600 members of the Jones List reviewed Carl's ad
550
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,000
DNA from the rape kit
551
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,880
heavily implies that our killer is Caucasian
552
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,140
with red hair
553
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,640
since we can't trust the pictures
554
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,280
that these guys post on the website
555
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,960
we should go through their credit cards and DMV
556
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,900
to verify hair color and race
557
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:25,080
uh also
558
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,800
judging from what the Emi found
559
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:27,800
under Carla's fingernails
560
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,160
she got a good swipe at our guy
561
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,300
so look for scratches on the face neck and chest
562
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,100
you got a grandkid
563
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,300
great grandkid
564
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,100
do you know where I might find Cory Harwich
565
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,180
are you cold
566
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:58,660
yes I am
567
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,340
your license says you have red hair
568
00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:02,000
yeah well
569
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,340
I did it the time what's your natural color
570
00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:07,100
you uh
571
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,940
wanna find out chief
572
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,880
now why don't you try showing the lady a little respect
573
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,980
dude and answer the damn question
574
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,540
it's brown
575
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,120
brown hair sorry
576
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:19,880
it's urgent Gabriel
577
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,120
thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule
578
00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:23,140
Mr Harrowitz
579
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,380
uh could anyone other than you
580
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,640
have used your credit card and computer to access
581
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:30,460
to say
582
00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:32,120
oh yeah yeah
583
00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:34,520
yeah I'm the pledge master on here
584
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,020
so I let a lot of guys log on
585
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:38,020
then any of those pledges have red hair
586
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,880
get the chief friendly Johnson
587
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,060
oh thank god you found the attacker Jeffrey
588
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:56,900
you did didn't you
589
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,860
you found the person who did this to my son
590
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,740
he's made my blooper hair
591
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,920
do you wave your right to an attorney
592
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:17,640
Jeffrey
593
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,680
or do you want your mother in here to hire one for you
594
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:20,480
no no
595
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:21,900
I don't I don't want an attorney
596
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,620
you're Prince from the crime scene
597
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,280
your blood type when you wanna bet
598
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,560
I get a DNA match tomorrow
599
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,820
and I won't need you to tell me your side of the story
600
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:33,840
you'll be under arrest
601
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,020
for the rape and murder of Carlos Simmons
602
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,180
now's your only chance tell me what happened
603
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,940
speak now or forever hold your peace
604
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,880
okay guess I'll go break the news to your mother no
605
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:47,240
no no
606
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,460
wait wait wait
607
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,200
oh God
608
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,260
I told them this was gonna happen told who
609
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,500
those fraternity boys
610
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,080
I know you don't wanna tell on them
611
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,540
I do but this is serious look where you are
612
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,260
they gave me the ad
613
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,520
but they they said I didn't have the balls to do it
614
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,200
you know and they were taking bets right
615
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,000
so
616
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,700
I had to try
617
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,780
when I got to her house I found the key
618
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,220
I snuck in the front door
619
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,940
I took off all my clothes
620
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,080
I had the tape ready I just
621
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,100
I just did what it said to do in the ad
622
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,540
of course and she was wrestling with me
623
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,340
and I had her chief
624
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,720
since I thought she was into it
625
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:50,540
you know man
626
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,740
she's supposed to be wild for sex
627
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,500
they said she was probably a dog anyway
628
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,060
but she ended up dead
629
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,900
it's not like I meant to hurt her
630
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,300
no no
631
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,920
when I when I finished it when
632
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,160
when I let her up she just
633
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,940
she got like hysterical
634
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,540
she tried to kill me
635
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,480
and I'm not kidding like
636
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,060
she pulled the lamp out of the wall
637
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,480
and she hit me in the head with it
638
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,480
and she was screaming like
639
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,740
like she was crazy
640
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,100
look
641
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,140
and she she broke this glass thing
642
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,040
she she gouged me
643
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,700
and she was slashing at my neck
644
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,780
she was trying to kill me
645
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,220
so I pushed her away
646
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,380
and then she smashed her head on the dresser
647
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,420
and I tried to help her out
648
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,060
but then her face just went white
649
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,060
you know and
650
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,100
I didn't know what to do
651
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,260
then she was dead
652
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:14,160
so I I
653
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,620
I just I left
654
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,760
and I locked the door behind me
655
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:19,000
and I I
656
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,540
I kept the key
657
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,780
and I didn't want anyone else to go in there
658
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,100
but I I didn't know what else to do
659
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,620
I just I didn't know what else to do
660
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,060
bathroom oh this way
661
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,780
what at least we got him
662
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,960
got him for what sergeant
663
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,480
we can't get him for breaking an interim
664
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,720
because Carl left the key
665
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:53,880
we can't arrest him for rape
666
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,600
because you recently thought he had consent
667
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,080
and if we go after him for murder
668
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,160
he'll argue self defense because Carla fought back
669
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,360
well that's her jury to decide
670
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,800
isn't it because from where I was sitting
671
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,980
that was a confession why do we not arrest him
672
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:06,820
what's wrong
673
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:08,180
what's wrong
674
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,340
what's wrong we said Carla fought back
675
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,040
every time you go online
676
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,540
it's like your computer's having unprotected sex
677
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,660
and whatever it collects stays with it
678
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,860
whatever Carla Simmons did is on her hard drive
679
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,740
somewhere can you show me how she placed her head
680
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,200
yeah see
681
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,540
she had autofill for phones like this
682
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,300
including her credit card
683
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,420
see so she would type in whatever copy
684
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,140
she would attach a photo from one of her albums
685
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,540
she like photos and boom
686
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,280
was she a regular on this site
687
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,800
Jones List no
688
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,800
just this once what about other dating services sites
689
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,220
no nothing like it
690
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,200
um an auction account at eBay
691
00:33:59,200 --> 00:33:59,960
I mean that's it
692
00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:02,520
is there a date and time stamp on this by any chance
693
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,500
yes indeed
694
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,700
can you print out again for me please
695
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,260
certainly thank you you can't tell
696
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:11,780
boss
697
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,560
you have a confession what exactly
698
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,520
are you trying to prove intent
699
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,640
lieutenant Tao because without intent
700
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,700
we don't have a murder and our rapist goes free
701
00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:29,200
hey hey
702
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,840
I'm on my way home I thought I'd check in
703
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,720
see how you're holding up
704
00:34:31,720 --> 00:34:33,320
oh I'm
705
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,780
I'm fine sorry I I guess
706
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,020
yeah I guess
707
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,660
I guess I should have called
708
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,100
well I wanted to take a look at you anyway
709
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,840
seem better well
710
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,500
we found the guy we were hunting for
711
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,620
took all day but that's great
712
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:51,580
that's good
713
00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:54,760
so you okay being on your own
714
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,240
yeah and thanks for last night
715
00:34:57,240 --> 00:35:00,940
I guess that sort of felt like I needed someone there
716
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,540
being needed
717
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,780
that's the next best thing of being wanted isn't
718
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:07,560
it listen
719
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,080
why don't you give me a call and have a free minute
720
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:09,240
you know
721
00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:12,660
these things have a way of sneaking back up on you
722
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,140
Brenda yeah
723
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,700
thanks later bye now
724
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,880
good night lieutenant tell
725
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,760
I want pictures of this internet date
726
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,760
inside of every guy between the ages of 20 and 35
727
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,580
in the Los Angeles County area
728
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,380
get everyone here to help you and sergeant Gabriel
729
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,680
I wanna bring someone in to look at a picture of
730
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:38,480
Jeffrey
731
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,260
now we have our killer
732
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:47,460
you know cheap
733
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,600
these guys hardly ever look like the picture
734
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:50,520
as it so happens
735
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,940
I'm more interested in how they describe themselves
736
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:53,760
right
737
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,540
then I replayboy for the articles
738
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,700
do you ever see any of these guys
739
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,420
uh just Larry there I met him once
740
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,900
huh huh
741
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,880
her Brit was here you can't identify a suspect
742
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:32,560
oh well
743
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,660
that's okay
744
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,500
suspect confessed anyway
745
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,280
we just have a few odds and hands to clear up
746
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,020
just a few odds and hands
747
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:42,160
sergeant Gabriel
748
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,060
did you ask him if you wanted an attorney
749
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:44,880
oh that's alright
750
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:45,840
he doesn't have to no
751
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:46,640
no no
752
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,360
if you let the stick
753
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,780
just break the rules once they do it every time
754
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,240
you wish to waive your right to an attorney
755
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:54,760
at this time sure thanks okay
756
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,020
I have to wear some every second honestly
757
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,640
so um
758
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,160
if you think straight now
759
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,600
and I won't give you back your stuff
760
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,360
but first since you were so close to Carlin and all
761
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,060
we wanted to tell you
762
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:09,960
that she was raped and murdered
763
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,300
because of this ad on the internet
764
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,140
oh my God I know
765
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,160
I never thought she'd take it this far
766
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:23,880
well you know
767
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,640
that's what a lot of people said
768
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,260
so we looked into it and it turns out you're right
769
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,500
this ad was placed by somebody else using her computer
770
00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:34,780
there's a date and time stamp on the seat
771
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:36,800
and when this horrible rapes
772
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,760
listation went up on the Jones list
773
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,560
we've confirmed that Carla was at work
774
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,300
it was put online using the autofill on a browser
775
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:46,480
but there's another reason
776
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,240
we know Carla didn't place this ad
777
00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:50,620
much better reason in my opinion
778
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,560
and what's that she fought back and why would she
779
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,220
have done that if rape was what she intended
780
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,000
she didn't even know about the Jones list
781
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,940
now someone else put up this ad
782
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,100
someone who had access to her computer
783
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,800
someone who knew her work schedule
784
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,860
someone who could get in and out of her house
785
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,120
and the landlord only issued two keys
786
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,440
and he 71 didn't know the first thing about computers
787
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,060
the only other key belonged to you
788
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,720
wait are you suggesting that I put that add up
789
00:38:21,720 --> 00:38:22,200
oh no
790
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,700
I'm not suggesting that
791
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:25,740
I can prove it
792
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:30,800
here's another ass
793
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,860
you placed of yourself on another website
794
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,280
found it this evening
795
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,920
and under turn offs you put Control Freak
796
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,360
kind of ironic under the circumstances
797
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,080
and in this ad that you place for Carla
798
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,240
you misspelled control the same way both times
799
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:47,860
with two L's
800
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,220
you know what
801
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,460
this is all bullshit
802
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:56,240
I'm leaving oh
803
00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:58,280
I wouldn't do that if I were you for uh
804
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,580
for two reasons first
805
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,160
because we can't arrest you for rape on this evidence
806
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,120
unless you really believe some would act on your phone
807
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,760
yet and I don't know how we prove that
808
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:06,360
and second
809
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,200
because how you react in the next few minutes
810
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,440
is what the da will look at
811
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,540
when deciding whether not to press charges
812
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,000
and you're being taped walking out that door
813
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,260
makes you look guilty
814
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,300
like you wanted the girl to get what she got
815
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,120
and you didn't did you Brit
816
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,000
please tell me you didn't
817
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,080
want her to be raped
818
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,640
cause if that's not what you intended
819
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,760
a judge will throw in charges that we're trying to file
820
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:25,980
straight out of court
821
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,160
you didn't physically touch her yourself
822
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,360
you didn't attack her but if you walk out right now
823
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,460
that makes it look like that's what you wanted
824
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,800
did you expect people to read that ass
825
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:35,880
read act on it
826
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:36,680
murder Carl no
827
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,700
no no that's not what I wanted
828
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,220
I loved her
829
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,500
I loved her okay
830
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,960
and this is just this is all some horrible mistake
831
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,060
and I'm sorry
832
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,700
I didn't want her to get hurt
833
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,020
this
834
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:03,720
this this
835
00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:06,140
this is what happened two weeks ago
836
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:11,060
she was she was driving my car and we were arguing
837
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,380
and she gunned it in reverse
838
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,200
and I and I lost it for a second
839
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,500
and I punched her in the arm that's all I did
840
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,120
and she wasn't even bruised
841
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,680
and I apologized several times
842
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,020
and she broke up with me for that one thing
843
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,800
and I begged her to forgive me
844
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,800
I explained to her over and over
845
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,520
I called her 100 times
846
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,640
and she never once responded to me
847
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,420
so you were hurt and you were angry right right
848
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:39,940
I posted that ad
849
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,020
that's the truth
850
00:40:45,720 --> 00:40:47,660
but I don't want anything to happen to it
851
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,020
well thank you Bret
852
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,200
it's not pretty but at least you know the truth
853
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,380
I'm sorry
854
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,420
I'm really sorry
855
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:05,680
I'm sorry about this
856
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,860
than anything I've ever done in my entire life
857
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:09,620
I know
858
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:15,540
I know
859
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:19,040
well
860
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,420
here's the stuff Carla packed up for you
861
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,020
I'll give you the stuff and you give me the key
862
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:32,240
the key
863
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,220
to Carl's house that was the deal you had with her
864
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:37,520
she'd give you back your stuff
865
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,980
and you'd give her back the key
866
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:41,920
oh yeah
867
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:42,800
I must have uh
868
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,060
lost it really yeah
869
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,580
a landlord only issued two keys
870
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,100
one she kept and the other she gave to you
871
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:56,400
right that
872
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,160
that's mine up you found it
873
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,180
no I got it from the guy who raped and murdered Carla
874
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,040
he found it outside her house
875
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:04,720
underneath the rock
876
00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:07,000
where you said it would be in the ad
877
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:07,840
so tell me Brett
878
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,800
if you didn't mean for anyone to rape Carla
879
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,500
why did you leave the key for him
880
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:21,940
oh shoot
881
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,400
now we have a problem yes
882
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,280
we do because
883
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,600
if someone dies
884
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,040
as a direct result of the commission of a felony
885
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,500
say like solicitation of rape
886
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,640
and there was proven intent
887
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,100
that's first degree murder
888
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:42,720
I thought if she knew what real violence was like
889
00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:44,820
then she'd know that what I did was really nothing
890
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,180
and she would she would call me
891
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,140
it was just supposed to be right
892
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:08,920
chief yes
893
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,020
chief she's coming
894
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:16,580
hi hi
895
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,080
I want to thank you in person
896
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,520
um Mr Pope here
897
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:21,920
let me read the transcript of the interview
898
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,420
and I think that will hold up in court
899
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,340
that's Brenda Specialty thank you
900
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:28,440
thanks
901
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,040
um Congresswoman Simmons
902
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,320
I'm sorry no
903
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,240
I'm I made it worse for myself
904
00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:36,200
by demanding to know what's going on
905
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:37,300
every step of the way
906
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:38,400
I think
907
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,400
I could spare myself some doubts about my daughter
908
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,860
if I just let you do your job
909
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,740
I can't begin to thank you
910
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,660
for proving that she was the girl I thought she was
911
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:55,660
that I did know her
912
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,420
thank you you're welcome
913
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,240
you okay yeah
914
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:10,140
yeah I'm good thanks
915
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,060
hey Fritz
916
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,040
yeah um no
917
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:37,520
no no
918
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,780
I haven't slept yet
919
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,060
look I was wondering if you wanted to
920
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,380
have you had breakfast yet
921
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,460
I want to have breakfast with you this morning
922
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,940
if you're available and you don't
923
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,700
oh I have no idea where that is
924
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,180
okay
925
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,700
alright but you have to give me really good directions
926
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:11,700
okay
927
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:17,940
uh huh so I'll take a right I'll figure out which is
928
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,180
that which way is it
929
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,060
are are there two figure outs
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