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Woody Allen: WRITING
IS THE GREAT LIFE,
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'CAUSE YOU WAKE UP
IN THE MORNING,
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YOU WRITE IN YOUR ROOM.
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YOU KNOW, IN THE ROOM,
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EVERYTHING IS GREAT, YOU KNOW,
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'CAUSE YOU DON'T
HAVE TO DELIVER.
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SO YOU WRITE IT,
AND YOU IMAGINE
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IT'S "CITIZEN KANE"
OR, YOU KNOW,
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EVERYTHING YOU WRITE IS GREAT.
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BUT WHEN YOU HAVE TO THEN
TAKE IT OUT AND DO IT,
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THEN REALITY SETS IN.
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THEN ALL YOUR SCHEMES
ABOUT MAKING A MASTERPIECE
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ARE REDUCED TO,
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"I'LL PROSTITUTE MYSELF
ANY WAY I HAVE TO,
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TO SURVIVE THIS CATASTROPHE."
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[ "SING, SING SING" PLAYING ]
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Diane Keaton:
[ GIGGLES ]
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I DON'T THINK THERE IS
ANYBODY LIKE WOODY.
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I'VE NEVER MET
ANYBODY LIKE WOODY.
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Larry David: YOU CAN'T COMPARE
ANYBODY TO WOODY ALLEN.
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Doug McGrath:
HIS RANGE IS AMAZING.
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YOU HAVE ONLY TO LOOK AT
"BANANAS" AND "MATCH POINT."
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Scarlett Johansson:
IF YOU'D ASKED ME
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WHAT DIRECTORS
I WANTED TO WORK WITH,
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WOODY ALLEN WOULD'VE BEEN
AT THE TOP OF MY LIST.
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Naomi Watts:
HE IS, WITHOUT QUESTION,
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THE BEST ACTOR'S DIRECTOR
I'VE EVER WORKED WITH.
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Martin Scorsese: NOT EVERYBODY
HAS THE STAYING POWER,
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NOT EVERYBODY HAS THE TENACITY,
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AND NOT EVERYBODY HAS
SO MUCH TO SAY.
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Mira Sorvino: THE DAY THAT HE
FINISHES EDITING A FILM
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IS THE DAY HE STARTS
TYPING THE SCRIPT OF THE NEXT.
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HE NEVER TAKES ANY TIME OFF.
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Leonard Maltin:
FOURTEEN SCREENPLAY NOMINATIONS.
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FOURTEEN.
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Chris Rock: WHO THE HELL
IS GOOD FOR 20 YEARS?
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THIS GUY HAS BEEN GOOD
FOR 40 YEARS.
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HE'S KIND OF PEERLESS.
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Sean Penn: IT'S NOT JUST
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THAT WE'RE STILL INTERESTED
IN WOODY ALLEN.
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HE'S STILL INTERESTED
IN TELLING STORIES.
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Keaton: ON THE ONE HAND,
HE'D BE BRILLIANT,
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AND HIS INSIGHTS WERE AMAZING,
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BUT ON THE OTHER HAND,
HE'D BE AN IDIOT.
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Mariel Hemingway:
HE'S ALSO NOT NORMAL.
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[Laughs] YOU KNOW, HE'S NOT
OF THE NORMAL STOCK.
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Marshall Brickman:
NEUROSIS, FEARS, PHOBIAS...
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Josh Brolin: A BIT ADOLESCENT,
TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH.
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Keaton: HE IS A LITTLE BIT
OF A HYPOCHONDRIAC.
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Johansson: HE'S CRIPPLINGLY SHY.
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Tony Roberts: OH, HE'S
DEFINITELY A LITTLE NUTTY.
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Owen Wilson: HE REALLY
WEARS HIS HEART ON HIS SLEEVE.
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HE'S A BIG HUGGER.
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[Laughs]
NO.
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Brickman: I REMEMBER WHEN WOODY
WAS THE ANTI-CHRIST.
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David: AND BY THE WAY, THE ONE
THING THAT I DIDN'T MENTION
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IS THAT HE'S ALSO VERY FUNNY.
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Allen: SO MUCH OF WHAT'S
FILTERED OUT
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ABOUT ME OVER THE YEARS HAS BEEN
COMPLETELY MYTHOLOGICAL.
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I MEAN, COMPLETELY, YOU KNOW,
EXAGGERATED
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OR DOWNRIGHT UNTRUE.
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SOME OF IT'S BEEN TRUE,
OF COURSE.
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WOULD YOU ENTER, MYSTERY
CHALLENGER, AND SIGN IN, PLEASE?
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[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]
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F.X. Feeney: SPEAK OF MAKING
A DOCUMENTARY ABOUT WOODY ALLEN.
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WHICH WOODY ALLEN?
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THERE ARE ACTUALLY SO MANY.
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YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE
THE STAND-UP COMIC,
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THE AUTHOR OF CASUAL PIECES
FOR THE NEW YORKER
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IN THE TRADITION
OF S.J. PERELMAN.
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ARE YOU IN
THE ENTERTAINMENT FIELD?
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[High-pitched voice]
YES.
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Feeney:
YOU HAVE THE CLARINETIST.
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ARE YOU A NIGHTCLUB
ENTERTAINER?
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MM, YES.
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Feeney:
YOU HAVE THE PLAYWRIGHT.
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ARE YOU PRIMARILY KNOWN
FOR YOUR WORK IN THE FILMS?
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NO.
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HE WAS MANY THINGS
BEFORE HE BECAME A FILMMAKER.
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ARE YOU FEMALE?
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[ LAUGHTER ]
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NO.
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I THINK FILM BECAME INEVITABLE
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BECAUSE HE COULD BRING TOGETHER
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ALL THE THINGS
THAT HE EXCELLED AT.
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TO REALLY CONTEXTUALIZE
WOODY ALLEN
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IN THE HISTORY
OF AMERICAN CINEMA,
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ONE DOES HAVE TO GO BACK
TO CHARLIE CHAPLIN.
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THE IDEA OF AN ACTOR
WHO BECOMES THE WRITER,
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THE DIRECTOR, THE TRUE AUTEUR,
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WHO PLACES HIMSELF
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AT THE CENTER
OF THAT CINEMATIC UNIVERSE
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CONSISTENTLY
THROUGH A NUMBER OF FILMS,
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SO THAT ULTIMATELY THE PERSONA
DOES ENTER THE CULTURE.
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I MEAN, THE REALITY IS,
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WOODY ALLEN HAS MANAGED
TO DO THAT IN OUR OWN TIME.
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I USED TO THINK THAT WOODY WAS
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ESSENTIALLY A WRITERLY
SENSIBILITY.
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ON THE OTHER HAND, I'VE SEEN,
YOU KNOW,
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JUST A STEADY, STEADY GROWTH
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IN HIS SKILLS AS A FILMMAKER,
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COMPLEMENTING HIS SKILLS
AS A WRITER.
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I THINK, YOU KNOW, HE'S ALMOST
AS GOOD AS WE GET.
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MY PARENTS WERE NOT PRO-
WOODY GOING INTO SHOW BUSINESS.
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[ CHUCKLES ]
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THEY WANTED HIM TO BE
A PHARMACIST.
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HE WAS THE WRONG PERSON
BORN TO THOSE PARENTS.
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THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY.
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[ SWING PLAYING ]
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Allen: MY MOTHER
ALWAYS USED TO SAY
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I WAS A VERY SWEET, HAPPY KID
RIGHT FROM THE START,
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AND THEN SOMEWHERE
AROUND 5 OR SO,
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I TURNED GRUMPIER OR SOUR.
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I CAN ONLY THINK, WHEN I BECAME
AWARE OF MY MORTALITY,
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I DIDN'T LIKE THAT IDEA.
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WHAT DO YOU MEAN, THIS ENDS?
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THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS --
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THIS DOESN'T GO ON LIKE THIS?
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NO, IT ENDS.
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YOU KNOW, YOU --
YOU VANISH FOREVER.
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ONCE I REALIZED THAT, I THOUGHT,
"HEY, YOU KNOW, DEAL ME OUT.
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I DON'T WANT TO PLAY
IN THIS GAME."
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AND I NEVER WAS THE SAME
AFTER THAT.
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HE'S BEEN DEPRESSED.
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ALL OF A SUDDEN,
HE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
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WHY ARE YOU DEPRESSED, ALVY?
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TELL DR. FLICKER.
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IT'S SOMETHING HE READ.
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SOMETHING YOU READ, HUH?
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THE UNIVERSE IS EXPANDING.
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Dr. Flicker:
THE UNIVERSE IS EXPANDING?
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WELL,
THE UNIVERSE IS EVERYTHING,
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AND IF IT'S EXPANDING,
SOMEDAY IT WILL BREAK APART,
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AND THAT WILL BE THE END
OF EVERYTHING.
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WHAT IS THAT
YOUR BUSINESS?!
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HE'S STOPPED
DOING HIS HOMEWORK!
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WHAT'S THE POINT?
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AND THAT THOUGHT OVER THE YEARS
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TOOK DIFFERENT FORMS
AS I LATER GOT OLDER
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AND ALWAYS USED
MY CONCENTRATION CAMP EXAMPLE
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OF PEOPLE AROUND ME HAVING FUN,
ENJOYING THEMSELVES.
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AND I WANTED TO SAY,
"BUT DON'T YOU REALIZE
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"YOU'RE GOING TO GO UP
IN A SMOKESTACK,
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"YOU KNOW, IN A SHORT WHILE?
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"SO WHY ARE YOU SO HAPPY?
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I MEAN, DOESN'T THAT THOUGHT
SORT OF PUT A DAMPER ON THINGS?"
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I'M NOT SAYING
MY GRIM APPRAISAL IS RIGHT.
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OF COURSE, I THINK IT IS,
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BUT THIS IS ONLY MY PARTICULAR
TAKE ON EVERYTHING --
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THAT WE ALL KNOW
THE SAME TRUTH,
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AND OUR LIVES CONSIST
OF HOW WE CHOOSE TO DISTORT IT.
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[ TRAIN CHUGS ]
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[ GLENN MILLER ORCHESTRA'S
"MOONLIGHT SERENADE" PLAYING ]
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Allen: WHEN I GREW UP, BROOKLYN
WAS A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE.
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THERE WAS VERY LITTLE TRAFFIC.
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YOU COULD STAY OUT ALL DAY LONG
PLAYING BALL ON THE STREET.
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AND YOU COULDN'T WALK TWO BLOCKS
WITHOUT COMING TO A MOVIE HOUSE.
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A 15-MINUTE TROLLEY RIDE
TO CONEY ISLAND AND THE BEACH.
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KIDS WERE SAFE.
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I'D LEAVE THE HOUSE
AT 8:00 IN THE MORNING
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AND COME BACK AT 7:00 AT NIGHT.
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AND WHEN I THINK BACK ON ALL
THOSE WONDERFUL STORES,
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YOU KNOW, BAKERY STORES
AND DELICATESSENS
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AND CHINESE RESTAURANTS
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AND MOVIE HOUSES
AND CANDY STORES...
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AND IF YOU COULD CUT BACK
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TO WHEN I WAS A BOY
IN THE EARLY '40s,
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YOU KNOW, IT WAS SENSATIONAL.
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WE ALWAYS LIVED WITH RELATIVES.
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I LIVED WITH COUSINS
AND AUNTS AND UNCLES,
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AND WE ALMOST NEVER LIVED ALONE.
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YOU KNOW, THIS WAS A CARRY-OVER
FROM THE DEPRESSION,
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WHEN FAMILIES
WERE GETTING TOGETHER.
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SO IT WAS ALWAYS VERY LIVELY.
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PEOPLE DOING THINGS
AND YELLING AT EACH OTHER,
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AND ACTIVITY.
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IT WAS A MADHOUSE ALL THE TIME.
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Letty Aronson: WOODY'S ORIGINAL
NAME, BIRTH NAME,
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WAS ALLAN STEWART KONIGSBERG.
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NOW, MY PARENTS
ALWAYS CALLED HIM ALLAN.
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THEY NEVER STOPPED
CALLING HIM ALLAN.
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WHAT WAS THE MOST MISERABLE
THING ABOUT YOUR CHILDHOOD?
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PROBABLY THE FACT
THAT I WAS YOUNG.
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[ LAUGHTER ]
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OH, REALLY?
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YEAH.
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IT WAS.
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IF -- IF I COULD HAVE BEEN
OLDER AT THE TIME,
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I THINK I COULD'VE
CARRIED IT OFF MORE.
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[ LAUGHTER ]
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Allen: MY MOTHER USED TO LEAVE
ME WITH THESE MAIDS ALL THE TIME
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BECAUSE SHE WAS WORKING.
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AND I REMEMBER ONE OF THEM
WHEN I WAS A KID,
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AND I WAS IN MY CRIB
AT THE TIME,
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EXPLAINING TO ME THAT IF SHE
WANTED TO, SHE COULD KILL ME.
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THAT SHE COULD SMOTHER ME,
AND SHE DEMONSTRATED IT.
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SHE COULD WRAP ME IN A BLANKET,
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COMPLETELY CUTTING OFF
ALL MY AIR,
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AND SMOTHER ME AND THEN JUST
DUMP ME IN THE GARBAGE OUTSIDE.
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IT WAS JUST --
BUT SHE DID DO IT.
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I COULDN'T BREATHE
FOR A FEW SECONDS,
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AND THEN SHE LET ME OUT,
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AND, YOU KNOW,
ONE WONDERS HOW CLOSE I CAME.
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Man: SO IF THAT NANNY WERE
JUST LIKE 10% CRAZIER,
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THAT COULD HAVE BEEN...
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SURE.
SURE.
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THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN,
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YOU KNOW, THE WORLD BE POORER
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A NUMBER OF GREAT ONE-LINERS.
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[ LAUGHTER ]
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MY GRANDFATHER, ON HIS DEATHBED,
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SOLD ME THIS WATCH.
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[ LAUGHTER ]
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Louise Lasser: HIS FATHER WAS
THE SWEETEST MAN YOU COULD MEET.
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HE WAS JUST SO SWEET,
AND HE'D CALL US EVERY DAY.
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HE'D SAY, "IT'S GOING TO RAIN.
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DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH CANNED GOODS
IN THE HOUSE?"
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YOU KNOW, WE KNEW MY FATHER
AS MARTIN KONIGSBERG.
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BUT ACTUALLY, WHEN -- ONE YEAR
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WHEN THEY HAD TO GET
BIRTH CERTIFICATES,
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MY FATHER'S NAME
WAS ACTUALLY MAX.
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BUT WE ALWAYS
KNEW HIM AS MARTIN.
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HE WAS BORN IN 1900
AND LIVED TO 100 YEARS OLD.
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MY MOTHER WAS NETTIE CHERRY.
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SHE WAS BORN IN 1906.
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AND SHE LIVED TILL 96.
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[ FOLK MUSIC PLAYING ]
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OUR FATHER'S PARENTS CAME
TO THE UNITED STATES
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FROM RUSSIA BY WAY OF ENGLAND.
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OUR MOTHER'S FAMILY
CAME FROM AUSTRIA.
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BUT OUR MOTHER AND FATHER
WERE BORN HERE.
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HIS FATHER WAS QUITE WEALTHY
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AND AT ONE TIME OWNED
THE MOVIE THEATER IN BROOKLYN,
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MIDWOOD MOVIE THEATER,
AND THEN LOST A LOT OF MONEY.
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AND HE WAS LIKE EGG CANDLING
OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
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AND MY MOTHER
WAS WORKING FOR HIM.
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HE THOUGHT THAT SHE WAS,
YOU KNOW, RESPONSIBLE
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AND MY FATHER WAS NOT.
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ANYWAY, HE INTRODUCED
MY FATHER TO MY MOTHER,
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AND THEY GOT MARRIED.
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THEY NEVER GOT ALONG.
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THERE WAS A PERIOD OF YEARS
WHEN THEY NEVER EVEN SPOKE
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WHEN I WAS GROWING UP.
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IT GOT BETTER
ONCE THEY WERE MUCH OLDER.
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THEY WERE MARRIED
FOR EVER AND EVER AND EVER,
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BUT FOR MY ENTIRE CHILDHOOD
THAT I REMEMBER,
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THEY ARGUED OR DIDN'T SPEAK.
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MY LITTLE ADORABLE FATHER WORKED
FOR THE SAME FIRM FOR 14 YEARS.
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THEY FIRED HIM.
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THEY REPLACED HIM
WITH A GADGET THIS BIG.
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DOES EVERYTHING
THAT MY FATHER DOES,
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ONLY IT DOES IT MUCH BETTER,
YOU KNOW.
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AND THE DEPRESSING THING IS,
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MY MOTHER RAN OUT
AND BOUGHT ONE.
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[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]
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Man: WHAT DID YOUR FATHER
DO FOR A LIVING?
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THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
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HE DID EVERYTHING
OVER THE YEARS...
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JEWELRY ENGRAVING...
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HE WAS A BOOKMAKER FOR A WHILE.
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A WAITER AT
SAMMY'S BOWERY FOLLIES.
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THEN HE WAS --
HE RAN A POOL ROOM.
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HE WAS A TAXI DRIVER.
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HE WAS A BARTENDER.
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HE WAS A WAITER.
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HE WAS A JEWELER.
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YOU KNOW,
HE WAS UNSKILLED LABOR.
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YOU KNOW, HE DID
ALL KINDS OF THINGS,
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SMALL JOBS OVER THE YEARS.
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WHAT DO YOU DO, DAD?
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IT'S NONE
OF YOUR BUSINESS.
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ALL MY FRIENDS KNOW WHAT
THEIR DADS DO FOR A LIVING.
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DON'T YOU HAVE
ANY HOMEWORK?
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HEY, CAN I HAVE 15 CENTS FOR
THE NEW MASKED AVENGER RING?
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WHAT AM I,
MADE OF MONEY?
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Woman: PAY MORE ATTENTION
TO YOUR SCHOOLWORK
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AND LESS TO THE RADIO.
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YOU ALWAYS LISTEN
TO RADIO.
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IT'S DIFFERENT.
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OUR LIVES
ARE RUINED ALREADY.
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YOU STILL HAVE A CHANCE
TO GROW UP AND BE SOMEBODY.
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YOU THINK I WANT YOU
WORKING AT THE JOB I DO?
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I DON'T EVEN KNOW
WHAT YOUR JOB IS.
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Aronson:
MY FATHER WAS NOT THE ONE
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SAYING, "YOU HAVE TO STUDY,
YOU HAVE TO GO TO SCHOOL,
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YOU HAVE TO DO THIS,
YOU HAVE TO DO THAT."
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IT WAS MY MOTHER.
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IT WAS MY MOTHER WHO --
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WHO REALLY HAD TO PUSH,
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YOU KNOW, TO GET ANYTHING
ACCOMPLISHED.
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YOU WERE A VERY BRIGHT CHILD.
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YOU SPOKE YOUNG, YOU WERE -- YOU
WERE VERY YOUNG WHEN YOU SPOKE.
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YOU WERE ALWAYS RUNNING,
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WHETHER IT WAS THE STREET
OR THE HOUSE OR YOUR ROOM.
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YOU NEVER STAYED PUT
FOR FIVE MINUTES.
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I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO HANDLE
THAT TYPE OF A CHILD.
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YOU WERE TOO -- TOO ACTIVE
AND TOO MUCH OF A CHILD FOR ME.
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I WASN'T THAT GOOD TO YOU,
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BECAUSE I WAS VERY STRICT
WITH YOU,
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WHICH I REGRET, BECAUSE I THINK
IF I HADN'T BEEN THAT STRICT,
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YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN A MORE --
NOT SO IMPATIENT.
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YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN,
WHAT SHOULD I SAY?
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NOT "BETTER" --
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YOU'RE A GOOD PERSON --
BUT MAYBE SOFTER, MAYBE WARMER.
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AND DID YOU TAKE UP BOXING
REALLY TO ESCAPE FROM POVERTY
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OR JUST BECAUSE
YOU ENJOYED IT?
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NO, I TOOK UP BOXING SO I COULD
DEAL WITH MY MOTHER.
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[ LAUGHTER ]
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YES, THERE WERE
A GREAT MANY SUBJECTS
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WE DISAGREED ON, AND FREQUENTLY
THE ONLY WAY TO SETTLE MATTERS
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WAS TO PUT ON THE GLOVES
AND GET INTO THE RING.
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AND I USED TO KNOCK HER TEETH
OUT ALL THE TIME.
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REALLY?
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YEAH, AND SHE'S
AN OLD WOMAN, YOU KNOW.
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YEAH,
SO, THAT'S WHY.
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[ LAUGHTER ]
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I'LL JUST GRAB MY LID.
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GIVE ME A LITTLE PROTECTION.
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[ CHUCKLES ]
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CAN I GET OUT ON THIS SIDE?
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Man: OH, NO, WAIT UP.
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Allen: THIS IS THE HOUSE
THAT I WAS BORN IN.
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AND WE WERE ON THE TOP FLOOR.
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THE LANDLORD LIVED
ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR.
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I REMEMBER AS A LITTLE BOY
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INFURIATING THE LANDLORD
BECAUSE --
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YOU SEE, THE POT THERE
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USED TO HAVE BIG RED GERANIUMS
IN THEM,
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AND I JUST RIPPED THEM ALL OUT
SO I COULD HIDE MY SOLDIERS.
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I USED TO SIT ON THIS STOOP
ALL THE TIME,
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AND THIS WAS WHERE -- WHERE WE
ROOTED AGAINST THE NAZIS,
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YOU KNOW, AND I HAD
ALL MY --
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YOU KNOW, THIS IS
WHERE I FIRST WENT TO SCHOOL,
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TO KINDERGARTEN
AND THEN FROM HERE.
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IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE MUCH,
BUT IT WASN'T.
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I'LL TAKE YOU AROUND THE CORNER
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AND SHOW YOU WHERE
THE MIDWOOD THEATER,
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THE MOVIE HOUSE, WAS.
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NOW, GOD, WHEN YOU THINK OF IT,
YOU KNOW,
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THE AMOUNT OF MOVIES
THAT I SAW RIGHT HERE,
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I MEAN, IT WAS JUST ASTONISHING.
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THIS WAS A VERY GLAMOROUS PLACE
AT THE TIME, YOU KNOW,
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A VERY PRETTY THEATER
WITH PLUSH CARPETS AND SCONCES
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AND BEAUTIFUL GLASS FIXTURES,
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LINES OF MIDDLE-CLASS PEOPLE,
YOU KNOW, ATTRACTIVE GIRLS
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AND NICE-LOOKING YOUNG GUYS,
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AND ALL GOING TO SEE, YOU KNOW,
WHAT NOW WE CONSIDER
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OUR CLASSIC MOVIE HERITAGE.
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IT WAS ALL -- IT WAS ALL HERE.
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NOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT,
IT'S NOT AS NICE.
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I STARTED ON THE CLARINET
AT ABOUT 15.
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ACTUALLY, I STARTED
ON THE SOPRANO SAXOPHONE,
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BECAUSE I WANTED TO PLAY
LIKE SIDNEY BECHET,
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AND THEN I REALIZED IN
THE FIRST TWO OR THREE MINUTES
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THAT IT WASN'T GOING TO HAPPEN.
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AND THEN I STARTED PLAYING
THE CLARINET.
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I LIKE TO PLAY.
IT'S JUST A HOBBY, YOU KNOW.
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I ALWAYS LIKED JAZZ.
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I LIKED TO LISTEN
WHEN I WAS YOUNGER.
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I STILL LIKE TO LISTEN,
OF COURSE.
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BUT THE CLARINET, I MOSTLY
PLAYED BY MYSELF.
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I CALLED UP A JAZZ MUSICIAN,
QUITE A WELL-KNOWN JAZZ MUSICIAN
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NAMED GENE SEDRICK,
AND ASKED HIM
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IF HE WOULD GIVE ME
SOME LESSONS,
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AND HE USED TO COME TO MY HOUSE,
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AND HE WOULD JUST SIT
IN MY LIVING ROOM WITH ME
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AND PLAY SOMETHING AND SAY,
"YOU DO IT NOW."
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AND GRADUALLY,
I LEARNED HOW TO PLAY.
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YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE ON LOCATION
DOING A FILM,
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THERE ARE TIMES HE BRINGS
HIS INSTRUMENT WITH HIM
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AND PRACTICES IN THE CAR
ON A BREAK.
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BUT HE PRACTICES ALL THE TIME.
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Allen: IT'S A PLEASURABLE THING
TO PLAY.
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IF YOU PLAY AN INSTRUMENT,
IT'S FUN TO PLAY IT,
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AND IT'S FUN TO PLAY IT
WITH OTHER PEOPLE.
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00:18:11,700 --> 00:18:13,700
AND AS IT TURNS OUT,
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PEOPLE COME AND LISTEN TO US.
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HE LOVES GOING TO THE CARLYLE
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EVERY WEEK
AND PLAYING MUSIC THERE.
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HE DOESN'T SEE IT AS, "OH, I
HAVE TO GO, IT'S MONDAY NIGHT."
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HE LOVES DOING IT.
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AND HE'LL NEVER DO ANYTHING THAT
HE DOESN'T FEEL HE CAN DO WELL,
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00:18:29,100 --> 00:18:32,100
AND SO THE PRACTICE IS
NECESSARY, AND THAT'S IT.
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IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A FOREGONE
CONCLUSION THAT HE'LL DO IT.
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Juliet Taylor: HE SAID TO ME
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THAT IF HE COULD DO ANYTHING
IN THE WORLD,
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HE WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE BEEN
A CLARINET PLAYER
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MORE THAN A FILMMAKER.
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[ PLAYING JAZZ ]
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Feeney: HIS SENSITIVITY
TO MUSIC
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IS KEY TO HIS SUCCESS
AS A FILMMAKER,
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BECAUSE VERY EARLY ON,
RIGHT FROM THE VERY FIRST FILMS,
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HE'S GOT A SENSE OF RHYTHM,
A SENSE OF TIMING.
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00:19:05,500 --> 00:19:09,000
RHYTHM AND TIMING ARE KEY
TO SUCCESS IN COMEDY.
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00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,500
BUT BECAUSE HE HAS THIS OTHER,
SORT OF MELODIC SENSITIVITY,
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I THINK IT REALLY MAKES IT
POSSIBLE FOR HIM
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TO NOT ONLY DO
EXCELLENT COMEDY,
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00:19:17,500 --> 00:19:20,000
BUT IT MAKES IT POSSIBLE FOR HIM
TO BE EMOTIONAL AS WELL.
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00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:29,000
Lasser: IT'S MORE DIRECT
EXPRESSION OF EVERYTHING,
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DON'T YOU THINK, MUSIC?
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00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,700
YOU KNOW, HE ALWAYS WOULD TALK
ABOUT SIDNEY BECHET,
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00:19:33,700 --> 00:19:39,200
AND HE HAS THAT SWEET,
WINSOME SOUND.
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00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,600
WOODY HAS THAT SOUND.
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00:19:42,100 --> 00:19:45,600
IT'S IN HIS PERSONA,
HIS PUBLIC PERSONA,
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00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,100
BUT IT'S ALSO IN HIM.
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00:19:48,100 --> 00:19:50,600
IT'S JUST IN HIM.
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00:19:57,100 --> 00:20:01,100
[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]
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00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,500
Allen: OUR LAST YEARS
OF HIGH SCHOOL IN MIDWOOD,
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00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,500
YOU KNOW, ALL MY FRIENDS WERE
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00:20:09,500 --> 00:20:11,500
DECIDING WHAT THEY WERE
GOING TO DO WITH THEIR LIVES.
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00:20:11,500 --> 00:20:13,500
THEY WERE GOING TO BECOME
DOCTORS AND LAWYERS.
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00:20:13,500 --> 00:20:18,500
AND SOMEONE SUGGESTED
THAT I TRY WRITING GAGS.
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00:20:18,500 --> 00:20:22,000
AND I DID TRY IT AFTER SCHOOL.
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00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,000
SO HE STARTS SENDING JOKES IN
TO THE NEWSPAPER,
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00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,500
AND THEY STARTED PRINTING THEM.
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00:20:29,500 --> 00:20:31,000
Allen: I WAS SHOCKED.
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00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,000
MY NAME WOULD SUDDENLY APPEAR
IN WALTER WINCHELL'S COLUMN
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AND EARL WILSON, AND THERE WERE
MANY COLUMNISTS AT THE TIME,
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00:20:36,500 --> 00:20:40,000
FRANK FARRELL, HY GARDNER,
LEONARD LYONS.
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I DID NOT WANT TO APPEAR
IN BROADWAY COLUMNS
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AND IN THE NEWSPAPERS
WITH MY OWN NAME,
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00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,500
BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO GO
TO SCHOOL THE NEXT DAY
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AND SIT IN MY MATH CLASS
OR MY HISTORY CLASS
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00:20:52,700 --> 00:20:55,700
AND HAVE SOME GUY OR GIRL
TURN TO ME AND SAY,
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00:20:55,700 --> 00:20:58,700
"HEY, I SAW YOUR NAME
IN WALTER WINCHELL'S COLUMN."
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00:20:58,700 --> 00:21:00,700
AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS SHY.
427
00:21:00,700 --> 00:21:03,700
I WANTED TO KEEP
MY FIRST NAME, ALLAN,
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00:21:03,700 --> 00:21:07,200
AND I JUST THREW ON THE FIRST
THING THAT CAME TO MIND WITH IT.
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00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,900
"WOODY ALLEN" KIND OF HAD A NICE
COMEDIC RING TO IT,
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00:21:09,900 --> 00:21:11,400
AND IT SEEMED THAT THAT WOULD BE
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A BETTER GUY
TO BE SIGNING GAG LINES
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00:21:12,900 --> 00:21:14,400
THAN ALLAN KONIGSBERG.
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00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:15,900
THERE WAS A PRESS AGENT,
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00:21:15,900 --> 00:21:17,900
A PUBLIC RELATIONS MAN
NAMED DAVID ALBER.
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00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,400
AND HIS JOB WAS TO COME UP WITH
FUNNY LINES
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TO PUT IN THE MOUTHS
OF HIS CLIENTS.
437
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,900
AND HE CALLED UP AND SAID,
"WHO IS THIS GUY, WOODY ALLEN,
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00:21:25,900 --> 00:21:28,900
WHOSE NAME I READ ALL THE TIME
IN THE COLUMNS?"
439
00:21:28,900 --> 00:21:31,400
AND I THINK IT WAS EARL WILSON
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AT THE POST AT THAT TIME
THAT SAID,
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"HE'S SOME KID IN BROOKLYN
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WHO SENDS ME THESE JOKES
AFTER SCHOOL."
443
00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:39,600
AND HE HIRED WOODY TO COME IN
AT $25 A WEEK AFTER SCHOOL
444
00:21:40,100 --> 00:21:41,100
TO WRITE JOKES.
445
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,800
AND I WAS DOING ABOUT 50 JOKES
A DAY FOR A LONG TIME.
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00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:45,800
IT WAS NOT HARD.
447
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:46,800
Eric Lax: WELL,
HE THOUGHT HE WAS
448
00:21:47,300 --> 00:21:48,300
IN THE HEART OF SHOW BUSINESS.
449
00:21:48,300 --> 00:21:49,700
AND ONE OF THE PEOPLE
HE WAS WORKING WITH
450
00:21:49,700 --> 00:21:50,700
WAS A GUY NAMED MIKE MERRICK,
451
00:21:50,700 --> 00:21:52,300
WHO WAS IN HIS EARLY 20s.
452
00:21:52,300 --> 00:21:55,300
AND MERRICK HAD THESE
ROUND, BLACK GLASSES.
453
00:21:55,300 --> 00:21:56,300
Allen: AND I THOUGHT, "HEY,
454
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,500
I WOULD LOOK GOOD IN THOSE."
455
00:21:58,500 --> 00:22:01,400
SO I BOUGHT THESE
BLACK-RIMMED GLASSES
456
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,900
AND PUT THEM ON AND WORE THEM,
AND NEVER GAVE MY GLASSES
457
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,600
A SECOND THOUGHT
FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
458
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:13,500
FROM THERE, I WAS ASKED IN
TO WRITE SOME JOKES
459
00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:16,100
FOR THE ARTHUR GODFREY PROGRAM,
460
00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:18,600
FOR PETER LIND HAYES
AND MARY HEALY --
461
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,600
THEY DID A RADIO PROGRAM.
462
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,600
AND THAT EVENTUALLY
GOT TO HERB SHRINER,
463
00:22:24,100 --> 00:22:27,800
WHO WAS A WONDERFUL COMEDIAN,
AND I WROTE FOR HIM.
464
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,300
AND I NEVER REALLY STOPPED.
465
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,500
I WAS NEVER OUT OF WORK.
466
00:22:31,500 --> 00:22:33,500
BY THE TIME HE WAS 16 OR 17,
467
00:22:33,500 --> 00:22:35,300
HE WAS MAKING MORE
THAN HIS PARENTS,
468
00:22:35,300 --> 00:22:38,800
AND HAS BEEN REGULARLY EMPLOYED
EVERY DAY OF HIS LIFE SINCE.
469
00:22:39,300 --> 00:22:42,100
[ CLARINET PLAYING JAZZ ]
470
00:22:42,100 --> 00:22:46,100
THIS IS WHERE I WORK.
471
00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:50,800
MY HOUSE IS ALWAYS FULL OF
CLARINET REEDS EVERYPLACE.
472
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,600
I BOUGHT THIS WHEN I WAS 16.
473
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,600
IT STILL WORKS LIKE A TANK.
474
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,100
AND IT'S A GERMAN TYPEWRITER,
AND IT'S AN OLYMPIA PORTABLE.
475
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,600
I'VE HAD IT MY WHOLE LIFE.
476
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,300
IT COST ME $40, I THINK.
477
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,300
THE GUY TOLD ME IT WOULD BE
AROUND LONG AFTER MY DEATH.
478
00:23:09,300 --> 00:23:13,800
AND I'VE TYPED EVERYTHING
THAT I'VE EVER WRITTEN --
479
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,800
EVERY SCRIPT,
EVERY NEW YORKER PIECE,
480
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,800
EVERYTHING I'VE EVER DONE,
ON THIS TYPEWRITER.
481
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,300
IT USED TO HAVE A METAL PIECE
ON TOP, COVERING THIS,
482
00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:24,800
WHICH I LOST 30 YEARS AGO.
483
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,000
Man: ONE ADVANTAGE, OBVIOUSLY,
TO A WORD PROCESSOR IS,
484
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,500
YOU CAN ELECTRONICALLY
CUT AND PASTE.
485
00:23:30,500 --> 00:23:32,000
WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN
YOU HAVE TO CUT AND PASTE?
486
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,900
Allen: IF I'M TYPING SOMETHING,
I HAVE MY SCISSORS HERE,
487
00:23:35,900 --> 00:23:38,900
AND I HAVE A LOT
OF THESE THINGS,
488
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,900
THESE LITTLE STAPLING MACHINES.
489
00:23:41,900 --> 00:23:44,800
SO IF I'M TYPING SOMETHING,
490
00:23:45,300 --> 00:23:49,000
I TYPE THE PART
THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS.
491
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,000
YOU KNOW, NOBODY CAN REALLY TYPE
MY STUFF.
492
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,900
IT LOOKS TERRIBLE ON THE PAGE,
493
00:23:54,900 --> 00:23:56,900
SO I HAVE TO TYPE IT,
BECAUSE I HAVE ARROWS
494
00:23:56,900 --> 00:23:58,400
AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
495
00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,900
BUT WHEN I COME TO A NICE PART,
496
00:23:59,900 --> 00:24:03,400
THEN I CUT THAT PART OFF
497
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,900
AND STAPLE IT ON
TO SOMETHING ELSE WITH THIS.
498
00:24:06,900 --> 00:24:09,400
IT'S VERY PRIMITIVE, I KNOW.
499
00:24:09,900 --> 00:24:12,900
BUT IT WORKS VERY WELL FOR ME,
AND I CAN TYPE.
500
00:24:12,900 --> 00:24:15,300
YOU KNOW, I MEAN,
I CAN TOUCH-TYPE.
501
00:24:15,300 --> 00:24:18,300
SO THERE'S NO PROBLEM.
502
00:24:20,700 --> 00:24:22,200
Aronson: WOODY DATED A LOT,
503
00:24:22,700 --> 00:24:25,400
BUT DIDN'T REALLY BRING,
THAT I RECALL,
504
00:24:25,900 --> 00:24:30,400
DIDN'T REALLY BRING GIRLS HOME
UNTIL HE WAS DATING HARLENE,
505
00:24:30,900 --> 00:24:32,700
WHOM HE EVENTUALLY MARRIED.
506
00:24:32,700 --> 00:24:34,200
AND HE WAS VERY YOUNG.
507
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,700
HE WAS I THINK ABOUT 17,
508
00:24:35,700 --> 00:24:37,200
AND THEN 18 WHEN HE MARRIED HER.
509
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,700
Allen: IT'S FUNNY --
WHEN YOU'RE REALLY YOUNG,
510
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,900
YOU KNOW, YOU GO OUT AND YOU GO
TO THE MOVIES AND YOU GO BOWLING
511
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:45,400
AND YOU GO TO THE DRIVE-INS,
512
00:24:45,900 --> 00:24:49,400
AND THEN THERE'S NOWHERE TO GO
BUT TO GET MARRIED.
513
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:50,900
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO.
514
00:24:50,900 --> 00:24:51,900
WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING.
515
00:24:51,900 --> 00:24:52,900
WE'VE EATEN
AT ALL THE RESTAURANTS,
516
00:24:52,900 --> 00:24:56,400
AND WE'VE, YOU KNOW,
WE'VE SEEN THE MOVIES
517
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,900
AND BEEN TO THE THEATER,
THE BALL GAMES,
518
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,500
SO WHAT ELSE IS THERE TO DO?
519
00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:05,000
IT'S 8:00, LET'S GET MARRIED.
520
00:25:05,500 --> 00:25:08,000
SO WE GOT, YOU KNOW,
WE GOT MARRIED.
521
00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:09,500
AND WE WERE BOTH KIDS.
522
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,000
AND IT SERVED A VERY GOOD
FUNCTION FOR BOTH OF US.
523
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,000
IT GOT US OUT
OF OUR PARENTS' HOMES.
524
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,000
IT GOT US UP ON OUR FEET.
525
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,000
AND I SUDDENLY FOUND
THAT I WAS 20 YEARS OLD.
526
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,500
I WAS MARRIED AND HAD
RESPONSIBILITIES,
527
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,000
BUT WE JUST, YOU KNOW,
528
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,500
WERE TOO YOUNG TO HAVE
A LIFETIME TOGETHER.
529
00:25:28,500 --> 00:25:35,500
I MARRIED A VERY IMMATURE WOMAN,
AND IT DIDN'T WORK OUT.
530
00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:37,000
SEE IF THIS
IS NOT IMMATURE TO YOU.
531
00:25:37,500 --> 00:25:41,500
I WOULD BE HOME,
IN THE BATHROOM, TAKING A BATH,
532
00:25:41,500 --> 00:25:45,000
AND MY WIFE WOULD WALK RIGHT IN
WHENEVER SHE FELT LIKE,
533
00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:47,000
AND SINK MY BOATS.
534
00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:51,500
[ LAUGHTER ]
535
00:25:51,500 --> 00:25:54,500
IN 1956, AFTER WRITING
FOR A NUMBER OF COMICS,
536
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,000
WOODY GETS AN OPPORTUNITY
TO GO TO TAMIMENT.
537
00:25:57,500 --> 00:26:01,100
IT'S A RESORT IN THE POCONOS
THAT SPECIALIZES IN THEATER.
538
00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:04,100
Allen: PEOPLE WOULD FLOOD
UP THERE FRIDAY NIGHTS
539
00:26:04,100 --> 00:26:06,100
AND STAY FOR THE WEEKENDS.
540
00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:10,000
AND THEY HAD A STAFF OF WRITERS,
541
00:26:10,500 --> 00:26:12,500
DANCERS, DIRECTORS,
CHOREOGRAPHERS,
542
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,100
WHO WOULD PUT ON AN ORIGINAL
LIVE REVUE SHOW
543
00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:19,100
EVERY SINGLE WEEK.
544
00:26:19,100 --> 00:26:21,100
I WAS ADVISED TO GO THERE,
545
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,600
BECAUSE YOU REALLY
GET EXPERIENCE
546
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,100
WRITING FOR A LIVE AUDIENCE.
547
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,900
HOW TO WRITE NOT JUST INDIVIDUAL
JOKES BUT, YOU KNOW,
548
00:26:29,900 --> 00:26:33,400
5-MINUTE SKETCHES, 3-MINUTE
SKETCHES, 8-MINUTE SKETCHES.
549
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,900
SO, I WENT AND I DID
THREE SUMMERS THERE.
550
00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:38,400
THE FIRST SUMMER,
I WROTE SKETCHES.
551
00:26:38,900 --> 00:26:40,900
THE SECOND SUMMER, I WROTE
SKETCHES AND DIRECTED THEM.
552
00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:43,900
AND THE THIRD SUMMER, I WROTE
SKETCHES AND DIRECTED THEM.
553
00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:46,400
YOU KNOW, YOU COULDN'T SIT
IN A ROOM
554
00:26:46,900 --> 00:26:49,800
WAITING FOR YOUR MUSE
TO COME AND TICKLE YOU.
555
00:26:50,300 --> 00:26:54,800
MONDAY MORNING CAME, THERE WAS
A DRESS REHEARSAL THURSDAY.
556
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,500
YOU HAD TO GET THAT THING
WRITTEN.
557
00:26:57,500 --> 00:27:01,800
AND IT WAS GRUELING,
BUT YOU LEARNED TO WRITE.
558
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,800
AND FROM THERE, I MANAGED TO GO
559
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,300
DIRECTLY TO
THE SID CAESAR SHOW.
560
00:27:08,300 --> 00:27:12,400
SID WAS AN ACKNOWLEDGED
COMIC GENIUS,
561
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,800
AND EVERYBODY WANTED
TO WRITE FOR HIM.
562
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:20,800
AND SUDDENLY, I GOT HIRED,
AND I WAS JUST, YOU KNOW,
563
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,300
20, 21 YEARS OLD.
564
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,800
AND I FOUND MYSELF WRITING WITH
MEL BROOKS
565
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,300
AND WRITING WITH LARRY GELBART
AND MEL TOLKIN.
566
00:27:29,300 --> 00:27:30,300
WHY DON'T YOU
TRY TO GO UPSTAIRS
567
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:31,800
AND GET SOME REST, HUH?
568
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,300
Allen: I SAID, "MY GOD,
I'M WRITING FOR SID CAESAR."
569
00:27:34,300 --> 00:27:36,300
AND IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE
IN MY LIFE.
570
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,300
BEST NOT TO TAKE ANY
OF THE ROOMS UPSTAIRS,
571
00:27:39,300 --> 00:27:42,800
BECAUSE THEY ALL HAVE
MEMORIES OF CECILY.
572
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,300
JOHN, PLEASE, WE HAVE TO
TALK ABOUT THIS.
573
00:27:45,300 --> 00:27:46,300
YOU CAN'T LIVE
IN A MANSION --
574
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:47,800
DON'T SIT
IN THAT CHAIR!
575
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,300
CECILY USED TO SIT
IN THAT CHAIR.
576
00:27:49,300 --> 00:27:50,800
IT'S LIKE SITTING
ON A MEMORY.
577
00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:52,300
JOHN, PLEASE, THIS IS --
578
00:27:52,300 --> 00:27:54,300
DON'T SIT ON THAT CHAIR!
579
00:27:54,300 --> 00:27:55,800
SHE USED TO PUT HER FEET
ON THAT CHAIR
580
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,300
WHEN SHE SAT IN THAT CHAIR.
581
00:27:58,300 --> 00:27:59,300
SHE WAS A VERY LONG GIRL.
582
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:00,800
[ LAUGHTER ]
583
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,300
[ JAZZ PLAYING ]
584
00:28:06,300 --> 00:28:10,300
Allen: AT THAT TIME,
JACK ROLLINS AND CHARLES JOFFE
585
00:28:10,300 --> 00:28:12,300
HAD A MANAGEMENT BUSINESS,
586
00:28:12,300 --> 00:28:15,700
AND THEY WERE THE ROLLS-ROYCE
OF MANAGEMENT.
587
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,700
THEY WERE THE ONES THAT
EVERYBODY WANTED TO GO WITH.
588
00:28:18,700 --> 00:28:22,500
Rollins: AND WOODY SAID,
WOULD CHARLIE AND I
589
00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:25,500
BE INTERESTED IN HIM
AS A WRITER?
590
00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:27,500
AND I EXPLAINED TO HIM
591
00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:30,400
THAT WE HAD NEVER HANDLED
WRITERS AS SUCH.
592
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,900
WE HANDLED ACTORS
AND PERSONALITIES.
593
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,100
WELL, WE ASKED HIM TO READ
SOMETHING THAT HE DID.
594
00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:42,100
AND JACK AND I
THOUGHT HE WAS HILARIOUS.
595
00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:43,600
HE HAD NEVER PERFORMED
IN HIS LIFE.
596
00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:48,600
AND BOTH OF US JUST JUMPED
AND SAID,
597
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,600
"DON'T LET THIS GUY
OUT OF THE OFFICE."
598
00:28:52,100 --> 00:28:54,300
THE WRITING WAS FINE,
BUT HE WANTED ME TO BE A COMIC.
599
00:28:54,300 --> 00:28:55,800
HE JUST FELT I COULD BE A COMIC.
600
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,100
WOODY NEVER DREAMED
OF BEING A COMIC.
601
00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:01,600
HE WAS A WRITER.
602
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,100
AND IT WAS NOT EASY.
603
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:07,000
AND HE SAID TO ME,
AND I REMEMBER THIS SO CLEARLY,
604
00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:11,500
HE SAID, "DO ME A FAVOR,
JUST TRUST ME.
605
00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:16,000
"YOU JUST WORK
AND DON'T THINK ABOUT IT,
606
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,500
"AND LET ME THINK ABOUT IT.
607
00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:20,500
"DO WHAT I TELL YOU.
608
00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:24,400
AND LET'S LOOK UP IN A YEAR
AND SEE WHERE YOU ARE."
609
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,900
IF YOU TAKE MY ADVICE, I THINK
YOU'RE GOING TO BECOME
610
00:29:26,900 --> 00:29:28,900
ONE OF THE GREAT BALLOON-FOLDING
ACTS OF ALL TIME,
611
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:30,400
REALLY, 'CAUSE I DON'T SEE YOU
612
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,900
JUST FOLDING THESE BALLOONS
IN JOINTS.
613
00:29:31,900 --> 00:29:33,400
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO --
YOU LISTEN TO ME,
614
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,400
YOU'RE GOING TO FOLD
THESE BALLOONS
615
00:29:34,900 --> 00:29:36,400
AT UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES.
616
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,400
YOU'RE GOING TO --
YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE
617
00:29:38,900 --> 00:29:40,900
YOUR SNAIL AND YOUR ELEPHANT
ON BROADWAY.
618
00:29:40,900 --> 00:29:42,000
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
619
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,000
BUT THE THING TO REMEMBER IS
620
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,000
BEFORE YOU GO OUT ON STAGE,
621
00:29:44,500 --> 00:29:45,700
YOU GOT TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR,
622
00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:47,700
YOU GOT TO SAY
YOUR THREE "S's" --
623
00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:50,200
STAR, SMILE, STRONG.
624
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,000
STAR, SMILE, STRONG.
625
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,400
WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE POPULAR
COMEDIANS OF THE TIME,
626
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,300
MORT SAHL WAS COMPLETELY
INFLUENTIAL FOR WOODY.
627
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,300
Allen: HE WAS JUST AMAZING.
628
00:30:02,300 --> 00:30:05,200
EVERYTHING ABOUT HIM
WAS DIFFERENT.
629
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:10,900
THE WAY HE DRESSED, THE WAY HE
SPOKE, HIS VOCABULARY,
630
00:30:10,900 --> 00:30:14,000
AND THE REFERENCES
WERE ALL THE THINGS
631
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,500
THAT EVERYBODY WAS TRULY
INTERESTED IN --
632
00:30:17,500 --> 00:30:19,500
ARTISTIC THINGS AND POLITICS
633
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,500
AND THE FLOURISHING
OF PSYCHOTHERAPY AT THE TIME,
634
00:30:23,500 --> 00:30:26,400
AND EVERYTHING WAS SO FRESH
AND BRILLIANT.
635
00:30:26,900 --> 00:30:28,600
Sahl: OH, RICHARD NIXON'S TRIP
TO RUSSIA.
636
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,600
HE'S GOING TO RUSSIA,
AND HE SAID
637
00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:33,600
HE HOPES HE GETS ALONG
WITH THEM, AND SO...
638
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,100
ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, IF HE
DOESN'T GET ALONG WITH THEM,
639
00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:38,100
HE'LL KIND OF BE IN TROUBLE,
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T --
640
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:39,600
HE CAN'T CALL ANYBODY
A COMMUNIST
641
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,100
AND HURT THEIR CAREER
OVER THERE, YOU KNOW.
642
00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:43,600
[ LAUGHTER ]
643
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,100
[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]
644
00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:48,000
SAHL WAS THE LIGHT THAT GOES OFF
WITH AN IDEA FOR WOODY.
645
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,000
HE'D SAY, "OH, YOU KNOW, GEE.
646
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,500
"THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING
THAT I CAN DO.
647
00:30:51,500 --> 00:30:54,500
"I CAN'T BE MORT SAHL, BUT I CAN
DO WHAT MORT SAHL DOES.
648
00:30:54,500 --> 00:30:57,500
"I CAN ENGAGE THE AUDIENCE
IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN I'VE --
649
00:30:57,500 --> 00:30:58,500
THAN I'VE SEEN IT BEFORE."
650
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,200
THE FIRST NIGHT
I EVER WORKED AS A COMIC
651
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,200
WAS AT THE BLUE ANGEL.
652
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,700
ONE DAY SOMEBODY SAID,
"THERE'S A KID APPEARING --
653
00:31:06,700 --> 00:31:07,700
"THERE'S A LOT OF TALK
ABOUT HIM,
654
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,200
AT THE BLUE ANGEL
IN NEW YORK."
655
00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:11,700
IT'S ONE OF THE GREAT CHIC OLD
NIGHT CLUBS OF NEW YORK FAME --
656
00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:14,800
"AND WHY DON'T YOU GO
CHECK HIM OUT?"
657
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,800
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT,
AND I WENT TO THE BLUE ANGEL,
658
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:21,300
AND THIS SOMEWHAT GNOMISH MAN
CAME OUT, AND HE BEGAN TO TALK.
659
00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:25,600
AND I REALIZED AS LINE AFTER
LINE AFTER LINE WENT BY,
660
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,100
"EACH OF THESE IS BETTER
661
00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:30,400
THAN ANY LINE ANY COMIC
IN THE BUSINESS HAS."
662
00:31:30,900 --> 00:31:34,900
AND THE AUDIENCE BEGAN TO TALK
AMONG THEMSELVES.
663
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,600
THAT'S HOW IT WAS, AND THERE WAS
A COMEDIAN ON STAGE.
664
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:38,600
I WANTED TO KILL THEM.
665
00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:40,600
HE WAS SO SHY.
666
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,300
HE WAS SO UNUSED TO BEING
IN FRONT OF AN AUDIENCE
667
00:31:44,300 --> 00:31:47,800
THAT HE WOULD TIE THE MIC CORD
AROUND HIS NECK.
668
00:31:48,300 --> 00:31:49,800
HE WOULD FRIGHTEN PEOPLE.
669
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,800
THEY THOUGHT
HE WOULD CHOKE HIMSELF.
670
00:31:52,300 --> 00:31:54,600
HE WAS A NON-PERFORMER.
671
00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:56,800
Joffe: HE COULD HARDLY TALK
TO PEOPLE,
672
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,300
NEVER MIND PERFORM FOR THEM.
673
00:31:58,300 --> 00:32:01,800
AND SOME NIGHTS
HE WAS GOD-AWFUL,
674
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,200
BUT OTHER NIGHTS HE WAS
ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT.
675
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,200
Allen: I MUST PAUSE
FOR ONE FAST SECOND
676
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,700
AND SAY A FAST WORD
ABOUT ORAL CONTRACEPTION.
677
00:32:09,700 --> 00:32:11,700
[ LAUGHTER ]
678
00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:15,200
I WAS INVOLVED
IN AN EXTREMELY GOOD EXAMPLE
679
00:32:15,700 --> 00:32:18,200
OF ORAL CONTRACEPTION
TWO WEEKS AGO.
680
00:32:18,700 --> 00:32:22,200
I ASKED A GIRL TO GO BED
WITH ME, AND SHE SAID, "NO."
681
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:27,200
[ LAUGHTER ]
682
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,400
IF YOU'RE A JOKE MAKER,
IT'S HARD NOT TO MAKE JOKES.
683
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:37,900
DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
684
00:32:37,900 --> 00:32:40,400
LIKE, I'M ALWAYS AMAZED
WHEN I SEE SOMEBODY
685
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,900
THAT CAN DRAW A HORSE.
686
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,900
I CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW THEY CAN
POSSIBLY DO IT,
687
00:32:44,900 --> 00:32:46,900
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY ACTUALLY
REPRODUCE THE HORSE
688
00:32:46,900 --> 00:32:48,900
WITH A PENCIL AND PAPER,
AND IT'S TERRIFIC.
689
00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:51,900
NOW, I CAN'T DRAW A HORSE
OR ANYTHING ELSE,
690
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,900
BUT I CAN WRITE JOKES,
691
00:32:54,900 --> 00:32:56,900
AND IT'S HARD NOT TO WRITE THEM.
692
00:32:56,900 --> 00:32:59,400
I MEAN, IF I WALK DOWN
THE STREET, IT'S ALMOST --
693
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,400
IT'S LIKE MY NORMAL
CONVERSATION.
694
00:33:01,900 --> 00:33:04,700
YOU KNOW, IT JUST COMES OUT
THAT WAY.
695
00:33:04,700 --> 00:33:06,700
DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
696
00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:09,300
I PLAYED THE BLUE ANGEL
AND PLAYED SOME PLACES,
697
00:33:09,300 --> 00:33:12,100
AND THEN SOMEONE TOLD ME
ABOUT THIS PLACE
698
00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:14,100
CALLED THE BITTER END
ON BLEECKER STREET.
699
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,300
I OPENED THE BITTER END
IN 1961.
700
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,600
IT WAS LOCATED
ON BLEECKER STREET
701
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,100
NEAR WEST BROADWAY.
702
00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:24,100
THE UPTOWN CLUBS WERE
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
703
00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:27,100
IN THE VILLAGE, THERE WAS JUST
COFFEE SHOP KINDS OF PLACES,
704
00:33:27,100 --> 00:33:30,100
AND THE ACTS THAT WERE STARTING
TO HAPPEN WERE THE FOLK ACTS.
705
00:33:30,100 --> 00:33:32,600
PETER, PAUL AND MARY, OF COURSE,
BROKE IT WIDE OPEN.
706
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,100
THE VILLAGE IN THE '60s
WAS THE TIME
707
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,100
WHEN SORT OF EVERYTHING
WAS HAPPENING.
708
00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:42,000
IT WAS A TIME WHEN THE BEATS
WERE VERY POPLAR.
709
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,000
THE PILL CAME ALONG.
710
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,000
THE MIXING OF THE RACES
WAS STARTING THERE,
711
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,300
AND KENNEDY WAS ELECTED.
712
00:33:48,300 --> 00:33:53,300
AND THE VILLAGE WAS SPARKED LIKE
IT HADN'T BEEN SINCE THE 1920s.
713
00:33:53,300 --> 00:33:55,800
AND SOME NIGHTS
THEY'D PLAY MY CLUB
714
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,200
AND RUN DOWN OVER
TO ANOTHER CLUB.
715
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,500
THERE WERE FOUR OR FIVE
DIFFERENT ONES.
716
00:34:00,500 --> 00:34:04,000
YOU DIDN'T GET PAID,
BUT YOU HAD A PLACE TO WORK.
717
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,500
AND I WOULD GO DOWN THERE EVERY
NIGHT WITH JACK AND DO MY ACT.
718
00:34:08,500 --> 00:34:10,500
JACK SAYS,
"WAIT TILL YOU SEE HIM,"
719
00:34:10,500 --> 00:34:15,000
AND HE WENT ON, AND HE DIDN'T
MAKE IT AT ALL.
720
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,500
NOBODY UNDERSTOOD.
THEY DIDN'T GET IT.
721
00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:19,300
AND THEN JACK CAME OVER,
AND HE SAID,
722
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,300
"SEE?
HE'S AN INDUSTRY!"
723
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:24,300
THAT WAS THE FIRST THREE WORDS
JACK SAID
724
00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:25,800
WHEN HE CAME OFF THE STAGE.
725
00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:28,000
"HE'S AN INDUSTRY."
726
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,600
Rollins: PRETTY SOON,
IT BECAME APPARENT
727
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,100
THAT HE WAS A COMPLETELY UNIQUE
728
00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:38,400
NEW FACE AND A VOICE
ON THE SCENE.
729
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,400
FOR THE FIRST YEAR OF MARRIAGE,
I HAD WHAT YOU WOULD CALL
730
00:34:41,900 --> 00:34:43,900
A BAD BASIC ATTITUDE
TOWARD MY WIFE.
731
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,400
I TENDED TO PLACE MY WIFE
UNDERNEATH A PEDESTAL
732
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,900
ALL THE TIME.
733
00:34:48,900 --> 00:34:51,900
AND WE USED TO ARGUE AND FIGHT,
734
00:34:51,900 --> 00:34:54,400
AND WE FINALLY DECIDED
THAT WE WOULD EITHER
735
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,400
TAKE A VACATION IN BERMUDA
OR GET A DIVORCE,
736
00:34:56,900 --> 00:34:57,900
ONE OF THE TWO THINGS.
737
00:34:57,900 --> 00:35:00,400
AND WE DISCUSSED IT
VERY MATURELY,
738
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,400
AND WE DECIDED FINALLY
ON THE DIVORCE,
739
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,400
'CAUSE WE FELT THAT WE HAD
A LIMITED AMOUNT OF MONEY
740
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,900
TO SPEND ON SOMETHING,
AND THAT A VACATION IN BERMUDA
741
00:35:08,900 --> 00:35:10,400
IS OVER IN TWO WEEKS, YOU KNOW,
742
00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:15,900
BUT A DIVORCE IS SOMETHING THAT
YOU ALWAYS HAVE, YOU KNOW, SO...
743
00:35:15,900 --> 00:35:17,400
BUT IT TURNS OUT,
IN NEW YORK STATE,
744
00:35:17,900 --> 00:35:18,900
THEY HAVE A VERY FUNNY LAW
745
00:35:18,900 --> 00:35:21,400
THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T GET
A DIVORCE
746
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,400
UNLESS YOU CAN
PROVE ADULTERY.
747
00:35:23,900 --> 00:35:26,400
AND THAT'S VERY STRANGE, BECAUSE
THE TEN COMMANDMENTS SAY,
748
00:35:26,900 --> 00:35:28,400
"THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT
ADULTERY."
749
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,900
BUT NEW YORK STATE
SAYS YOU HAVE TO.
750
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,900
[ LAUGHTER ]
751
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,400
[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]
752
00:35:40,300 --> 00:35:42,800
I SAID, "IT IS HARD FOR YOU?"
753
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,800
HE SAID HE WAS SUFFERING
DOING THIS ACT.
754
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,700
HE WAS NOT A PERFORMER, REALLY.
755
00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:50,200
HE VOMITED A FEW TIMES, HE SAID,
756
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,800
WITHOUT ANY TRACE OF HUMOR
IN DELIVERING THAT LINE,
757
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,300
THAT IT REALLY WAS HARD.
758
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:00,100
Rollins: CHARLIE AND I
WOULD HAVE TO LITERALLY
759
00:36:00,100 --> 00:36:02,600
SHOVE HIM ONTO THE STAGE
760
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,100
TO DO HIS LITTLE ACT.
761
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:06,900
I KEPT SAYING, "I'M NOT FUNNY.
762
00:36:06,900 --> 00:36:07,900
"I'M NOT A COMIC.
763
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:09,900
"I, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T DO THIS.
764
00:36:09,900 --> 00:36:11,900
"I HATE IT.
I DON'T LIKE THE HOURS.
765
00:36:11,900 --> 00:36:13,900
"I'M SHY,
AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE
766
00:36:13,900 --> 00:36:15,400
STANDING
IN FRONT OF AN AUDIENCE."
767
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,400
I MEAN, THERE WAS NOTHING
ABOUT IT I LIKED.
768
00:36:17,900 --> 00:36:18,400
I MEAN, I KEPT SAYING,
769
00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:20,400
"I WANT TO QUIT.
I WANT TO QUIT."
770
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,400
AND JACK SAID, "GIVE IT A LITTLE
TIME, A LITTLE TIME."
771
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,800
I THINK HIS COMMON SENSE TOLD
HIM THAT IF HE BREAKS THROUGH
772
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,800
ON THE LEVEL OF THE PERFORMER,
773
00:36:31,300 --> 00:36:35,800
IT WILL BE A USEFUL
THING FOR HIM.
774
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,800
AND THEN ONE NIGHT, HE JUST
BOUNDED UP ON THE STAGE,
775
00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:40,800
AND IT WAS WOODY.
776
00:36:41,300 --> 00:36:43,500
HE TOLD THE SAME JOKES,
AND THEY WORKED.
777
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,500
AND THE AUDIENCE
REALLY LIKED IT.
778
00:36:47,500 --> 00:36:49,500
THE TELEPHONE COMPANY
HAS THIS SERVICE
779
00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:52,000
FOR EMOTIONALLY DISTURBED TYPES
CALLED DIAL-A-PRAYER.
780
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,000
[ LAUGHTER ]
781
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,000
THEY HAVE A NUMBER THAT YOU DIAL
IF YOU ARE AN ATHEIST,
782
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,500
AND YOU DON'T HEAR ANYTHING
ON THE OTHER END OF THE PHONE.
783
00:36:59,500 --> 00:37:02,400
[ LAUGHTER ]
784
00:37:04,900 --> 00:37:07,400
WHEN WOODY WAS THERE
ABOUT FOUR OR SIX WEEKS,
785
00:37:07,900 --> 00:37:11,100
THERE WAS AN ARTICLE
IN THE TIMES SAYING,
786
00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:13,000
"YOU GOTTA COME DOWN
TO THE BITTER END.
787
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,000
"YOU GOTTA SEE
THIS NEW PERFORMER.
788
00:37:15,500 --> 00:37:16,500
HE'S GREAT."
789
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,200
AND HE RAVED ABOUT HIM.
790
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,200
IT WAS THE FIRST GREAT REVIEW
791
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,200
THAT WOODY GOT
FROM THE NEW YORK TIMES.
792
00:37:22,700 --> 00:37:24,200
I WAS REAL EXCITED ABOUT IT.
793
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,800
THERE WERE LINES
OUTSIDE THE BLOCK
794
00:37:26,300 --> 00:37:28,300
THAT WENT ALL THE WAY DOWN
TO McDOUGAL STREET.
795
00:37:28,300 --> 00:37:31,200
NEWSPAPERS STARTED TO BECOME
INTERESTED IN ME
796
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,800
AND SEND REPORTERS DOWN
TO DO STORIES,
797
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,400
AND OTHER NIGHTCLUB OWNERS
WOULD COME AND WATCH
798
00:37:37,900 --> 00:37:39,700
AND BOOK ME FOR PLACES,
799
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,800
AND TELEVISION PEOPLE
WOULD COME DOWN
800
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,300
AND BOOK ME ON THE TV SHOWS.
801
00:37:43,300 --> 00:37:44,700
I WAS KIDNAPPED ONCE.
802
00:37:44,700 --> 00:37:46,200
LISTEN TO THIS STORY.
803
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,700
I WAS STANDING BY MY SCHOOLYARD,
804
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,700
AND A BLACK SEDAN PULLED UP,
AND TWO GUYS GOT OUT,
805
00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:56,700
AND THEY ASKED ME IF I WANTED TO
GO AWAY WITH THEM
806
00:37:56,700 --> 00:37:59,200
TO A LAND WHERE EVERYBODY WAS
FAIRIES AND ELVES AND...
807
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,700
I COULD HAVE ALL THE COMIC BOOKS
I WANTED
808
00:38:01,700 --> 00:38:04,200
AND TOOTSIE ROLLS
AND CHOCOLATE BUTTONS
809
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,200
AND WAX LIPS,
YOU KNOW AND...
810
00:38:07,700 --> 00:38:09,700
I SAID YES.
811
00:38:09,700 --> 00:38:10,700
I GOT INTO THEIR CAR WITH THEM,
812
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,700
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE -- I FIGURED,
"WHAT THE HECK?"
813
00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:15,200
YOU KNOW, I WAS HOME THAT
WEEKEND FROM COLLEGE ANYHOW.
814
00:38:15,700 --> 00:38:18,200
[ LAUGHTER ]
815
00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:19,700
[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]
816
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,700
Rollins: HE HAD A HEAVY
TELEVISION EXPOSURE,
817
00:38:22,700 --> 00:38:28,100
AND THAT, OF COURSE, IS WHAT
BUILDS NATIONAL FIGURES.
818
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,100
[ LAUGHTER ]
819
00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:38,100
Allen: IN TERMS OF THOSE JOBS,
NOTHING WAS BENEATH ME.
820
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:44,100
I BOXED A KANGAROO.
821
00:38:44,100 --> 00:38:47,600
I SANG "LITTLE SIR ECHO"
WITH A TALKING DOG.
822
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:50,800
♪ LITTLE SIR ECHO,
HOW DO YOU DO? ♪
823
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:51,800
♪ HELLO ♪
824
00:38:52,300 --> 00:38:53,300
[ WHINES ]
825
00:38:53,300 --> 00:38:55,300
♪ HELL-- HELLO ♪
826
00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:56,800
[ WHINES ]
827
00:38:56,900 --> 00:38:59,900
HE SANG IN REHEARSAL.
828
00:38:59,900 --> 00:39:01,900
Allen: THIS WAS PART
OF JACK ROLLINS' GAME PLAN,
829
00:39:01,900 --> 00:39:03,900
'CAUSE JACK'S THEORY WAS
830
00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:06,900
TO SATURATE THE COUNTRY WITH ME
AS MUCH AS HE COULD
831
00:39:06,900 --> 00:39:09,400
SO -- SO I WOULD BE
A HOUSEHOLD NAME.
832
00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:13,600
ONCE HE WAS ON A PRIME TIME SHOW
STARING PERRY COMO,
833
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,100
AND IT WAS
A BIG PRODUCTION NUMBER,
834
00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:22,400
AND AS THE SCENE OPENED, "WOODY"
WAS SPELLED IN 15-FOOT LETTERS
835
00:39:22,900 --> 00:39:24,700
IN THE BACKGROUND, BACKLIGHTED,
836
00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:28,400
AND HE CAME ON IN TAILS
AND TWIRLING A CANE AND TOP HAT.
837
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,900
AND I REMEMBER HIS SAYING,
838
00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:33,000
"I THOUGHT I WOULD HAVE
A HEART ATTACK BACKSTAGE
839
00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:35,000
BEFORE GOING ON."
840
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,500
♪ NOW HERE YOU CERTAINLY ARE ♪
841
00:39:38,500 --> 00:39:41,500
♪ YES, NOW WHEN I DASH
ALONG THE BOULEVARD ♪
842
00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:45,000
Allen: AND I REMEMBER
THE COLUMNIST JACK O'BRIAN,
843
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,000
WHO WAS A HUGE, HUGE SUPPORTER
OF MINE,
844
00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:51,700
HE SAID, "YOU KNOW, WE
ALWAYS USE SUPERLATIVES
845
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,700
"WHEN WE WRITE ABOUT WOODY.
846
00:39:53,700 --> 00:39:56,200
"AND I'VE GOT TO SAY
HE IS THE WORST SINGER
847
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,200
THAT I'VE EVER HEARD
IN MY LIFE."
848
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:04,200
AND I'M SURE I WAS, BECAUSE --
BUT IT DIDN'T MATTER.
849
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,900
THIS WAS ALL PART
OF WHAT JACK WANTED.
850
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:15,400
HE WANTED ME TO SEEP
INTO THE PORES OF THE MULTITUDE.
851
00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:17,100
AND HE DID THAT FOR A FEW YEARS
852
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,600
AND WAS MAKING GOOD SUCCESS
AT IT,
853
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:20,900
AND HE BECAME VERY POPULAR
ON "THE TONIGHT SHOW."
854
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:22,400
JOHNNY CARSON LOVED HIM.
855
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,900
HE PERFORMED ON THERE
MANY TIMES,
856
00:40:23,900 --> 00:40:26,400
WAS THE GUEST HOST
ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS,
857
00:40:26,900 --> 00:40:28,600
AND THEN ALSO BEGAN APPEARING
WITH DICK CAVETT
858
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,100
ON HIS SHOW ON ABC.
859
00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:32,600
AND WHAT'S WONDERFUL ABOUT THOSE
SHOWS WAS
860
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,100
YOU COULD SEE THAT THE TWO OF
THEM KNEW AND LIKED EACH OTHER
861
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:38,600
AND REALLY ENJOYED PLAYING OFF
THE OTHER.
862
00:40:39,100 --> 00:40:40,100
Cavett: I WOULD ALWAYS GRIN
863
00:40:40,100 --> 00:40:42,100
WHEN I COULD LOOK
AND SEE HIM IN THE WINGS
864
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:43,600
ABOUT TO COME OUT,
'CAUSE I KNEW
865
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:44,600
WE WERE
GOING TO HAVE FUN.
866
00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:47,400
AND HE DID SEEM TO ENJOY DOING
THE SHOW.
867
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,900
[ LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE ]
868
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,600
ALL RIGHT.
869
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,600
Cavett: WOODY'S IMPROV SKILL
DESERVES TO BE LEGENDARY.
870
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,600
AND ON THE AIR I WOULD THROW
SOMETHING AT WOODY
871
00:41:06,100 --> 00:41:09,100
AND DARE HIM TO GIVE EXAMPLES
OF SOMETHING,
872
00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:11,600
AND HE WOULD INSTANTLY GO INTO
SOMETHING THAT RANKED
873
00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:13,600
WITH THE VERY BEST OF
874
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,100
SECOND CITY'S VAUNTED
IMPROVISERS.
875
00:41:16,100 --> 00:41:17,100
THE IN--
THE BRITISH IN INDIA
876
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:18,800
INVENTED THE GAME
CALLED POONA.
877
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,800
AH, I'VE PLAYED IT.
878
00:41:21,300 --> 00:41:22,800
Cavett: WELL, THEN GOOD,
BECAUSE THE QUESTION IS,
879
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,300
IS THE GAME STILL PLAYED?
AND IF SO, HOW?
880
00:41:26,300 --> 00:41:30,800
UM, IT REQUIRES TWO CONSENTING
ADULTS TO PLAY THE GAME.
881
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:31,800
[ LAUGHTER ]
882
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,800
AND ONE IS THE POONER,
AND ONE IS THE POONEE.
883
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,300
[ APPLAUSE ]
884
00:41:41,500 --> 00:41:42,500
Cavett:
I DON'T KNOW
885
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:44,100
IF WE NEED TO GO ON
WITH THIS OR NOT.
886
00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:45,100
YOU SPIN A DIAL,
887
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,600
AND YOU CAN ADVANCE
TWO SQUARES IF YOU LIKE,
888
00:41:49,100 --> 00:41:51,100
AND YOU HAVE TO YELL OUT,
"POONEE! POONEE!"
889
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,100
AND THEN THEY GIVE YOU
PAPER MONEY,
890
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:54,600
OR "SCRIPT," AS IT'S CALLED.
891
00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:58,100
AND THEN YOU SMEAR BUTTER ON
THE PERSON YOU'RE PLAYING WITH
892
00:41:58,100 --> 00:42:01,100
AND RECITE THE WORD "NUTMEG"
SEVEN TIMES.
893
00:42:01,100 --> 00:42:03,100
Cavett: [LAUGHS]
THAT'S UNCANNY.
894
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:08,100
YES. FIRST ONE TO REACH THE --
THE POONATORIUM IS THE WINNER.
895
00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:10,600
[ LAUGHTER ]
896
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:12,200
Cavett:
IT WAS JUST BRILLIANT,
897
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,200
AND HE COULD DO THAT
ANYWHERE, ANYTIME.
898
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,700
Man: WHO WAS THE FIRST
MOVIE STAR THAT YOU MET?
899
00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:19,200
CAN YOU REMEMBER?
900
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,700
UH, YES.
901
00:42:20,700 --> 00:42:23,200
I MET TRIGGER,
902
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,200
WHO WAS ROY ROGERS' HORSE,
AT A PARTY.
903
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,200
ACTUALLY, I PICKED HIM UP
AT A PARTY,
904
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,700
AND WE HAD AN ONGOING
RELATIONSHIP
905
00:42:31,700 --> 00:42:33,200
FOR TWO YEARS AFTER THAT,
906
00:42:33,700 --> 00:42:36,200
WHICH I'M VERY PROUD OF.
907
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,700
Man: DID YOU EVER MEET
ROY ROGERS AT THAT TIME?
908
00:42:37,700 --> 00:42:39,700
NO, I HAD NO INTEREST
IN MEETING ROY ROGERS.
909
00:42:39,700 --> 00:42:45,200
BUT I LOVED LIVING
WITH HIS HORSE.
910
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,200
Man:
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE SMELL?
911
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,200
HE DIDN'T MIND
THAT SO MUCH.
912
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,700
THERE WAS ONE TIME
913
00:42:52,700 --> 00:42:55,100
I HAD A SHOW
THAT WAS MOSTLY WOODY,
914
00:42:55,100 --> 00:42:58,100
AND THEN THE GREAT RUTH GORDON
CAME OUT, IN HER 70s.
915
00:42:58,100 --> 00:43:02,100
AND AS A SURPRISE,
GINA LOLLOBRIGIDA APPEARED,
916
00:43:02,100 --> 00:43:04,000
LOOKING GLAMOROUS.
917
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,500
DO YOU KNOW
MR. ALLEN? HE'S VERY FUNNY.
918
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:06,500
THANK YOU.
I WAS JUST FIGURING OUT...
919
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,100
[ LAUGHTER ]
920
00:43:09,100 --> 00:43:11,600
I WAS JUST SITTING HERE
TRYING TO FIGURE WHICH --
921
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:12,600
HOW WE GOING TO
SPLIT 'EM UP,
922
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,100
YOU KNOW --
WHO GETS WHICH ONE?
923
00:43:14,100 --> 00:43:16,900
[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]
924
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,100
HOW WOODY GOT INTO THE MOVIES
WAS, WHEN HE WAS PLAYING
925
00:43:21,100 --> 00:43:26,000
THE BLUE ANGEL, WE HAD A LOT
STARS COME IN TO SEE HIM.
926
00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:31,200
SHIRLEY MacLAINE BROUGHT IN
A FRIEND OF HERS,
927
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,700
CHARLES K. FELDMAN,
928
00:43:32,700 --> 00:43:35,100
WHO WAS ONE OF THE ALL-TIME
929
00:43:35,100 --> 00:43:38,100
HOLLYWOOD MOTION PICTURE
PRODUCERS.
930
00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:39,800
SO THE GREAT CHARLES K. FELDMAN
931
00:43:40,300 --> 00:43:42,300
WAS VERY TAKEN
WITH WOODY'S WORK,
932
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:43,800
YOU KNOW, WISELY.
933
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,800
AND THE NEXT THING I KNEW,
MONDAY MORNING,
934
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:53,300
THEY OFFERED ME $20,000 TO WRITE
935
00:43:53,300 --> 00:43:55,900
THE SCRIPT
OF "WHAT'S NEW PUSSYCAT?"
936
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,900
I WROTE IT AND WROTE A SMALL
PART FOR MYSELF IN IT.
937
00:43:59,900 --> 00:44:01,900
Rollins: THAT WAS
HIS FIRST ENTRANCE
938
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,400
INTO MOTION PICTURE WORLD.
939
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:08,600
YEAH.
940
00:44:09,100 --> 00:44:10,100
ABSINTHE.
COFFEE.
941
00:44:10,100 --> 00:44:12,600
MINERAL WATER.
942
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,100
DID YOU FIND A JOB?
943
00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:16,400
YEAH, I GOT SOMETHING
AT THE STRIPTEASE.
944
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,400
I HELP THE GIRLS DRESS
AND UNDRESS.
945
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:19,600
NICE JOB.
946
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,000
20 FRANCS A WEEK.
947
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,300
NOT VERY MUCH.
948
00:44:22,300 --> 00:44:24,700
IT'S ALL I CAN AFFORD.
949
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:30,200
THEY HIRED A VERY LOVELY
DIRECTOR, CLIVE DONNER,
950
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,700
A VERY NICE MAN
AND GOOD DIRECTOR, TO DO IT,
951
00:44:33,700 --> 00:44:36,200
BUT THE STUDIO
WOULD NOT LEAVE HIM ALONE.
952
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,700
THEY HAD THEIR HAND
IN EVERY PIE,
953
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:45,100
AND SO THEY WERE TAKING
MY SCRIPT AND MANGLING IT.
954
00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:47,100
THERE ARE PLACES WHERE WOODY
SHINES THROUGH,
955
00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:50,600
BUT HIS WORK, WHICH HAD ALWAYS
BEEN SUCCESSFUL,
956
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,500
WAS SUDDENLY IN THE HANDS
OF SOMEONE ELSE.
957
00:44:52,500 --> 00:44:57,400
HE HAD NO LEVERAGE WHATSOEVER
IN WHAT WENT ON.
958
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,000
AND HE FOUND THAT THE SCRIPT
THAT HE HAD PRESENTED
959
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,200
HAD TURNED INTO THIS ANTIC FARCE
THAT WAS JUST REALLY
960
00:45:03,700 --> 00:45:06,000
THE ANTITHESIS
OF WOODY'S COMEDY.
961
00:45:06,500 --> 00:45:10,700
I HAVE OFTEN SAID THAT
IF I COULD'VE DIRECTED THAT,
962
00:45:10,700 --> 00:45:12,700
YOU KNOW, IT WOULD'VE BEEN
963
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,200
A MUCH, MUCH, MUCH FUNNIER
PICTURE
964
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,700
BUT MADE MUCH LESS MONEY.
965
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,400
THE FILM WAS SO FINANCIALLY
SUCCESSFUL
966
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:21,800
THAT I THINK IT WAS
THE GREATEST,
967
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,000
BIGGEST-GROSSING COMEDY
TO THAT DATE.
968
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,500
IT WAS A BORING PICTURE,
AS I RECALL.
969
00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:28,500
Man:
I RATHER ENJOYED IT.
970
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,000
YES, BUT YOU'RE MISTAKEN.
971
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,500
CHARLIE JOFFE KEPT SAYING,
972
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:32,700
"YOU KNOW, SETTLE DOWN,
SETTLE DOWN.
973
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:34,200
"YOU'RE ACTING IN A MOVIE,
974
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:35,200
"YOU'RE GETTING YOUR CREDIT
ON THIS,
975
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,700
YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE
TO GO FORWARD FROM THIS."
976
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,200
Joffe: I KNEW WOODY
WAS GOING TO CONTINUE
977
00:45:38,700 --> 00:45:42,000
TO MAKE FILMS
AFTER THAT EXPERIENCE.
978
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,500
AND I KNEW IT WAS NOT
GOING TO BE FOR CHARLES FELDMAN.
979
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,700
I MEAN, I DIDN'T EVEN GO
SEE IT.
980
00:45:47,700 --> 00:45:50,500
I JUST WAS SO ANGRY
AT THE WHOLE THING,
981
00:45:50,500 --> 00:45:53,000
VOWED NEVER TO WORK
IN MOVIES AGAIN
982
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,000
UNLESS I COULD BE THE DIRECTOR.
983
00:45:54,500 --> 00:45:56,700
AND HAVE CONTROL,
NOT JUST THE DIRECTOR.
984
00:45:56,700 --> 00:45:59,100
AND THE GREAT LESSON THAT CAME
OUT OF THAT
985
00:45:59,100 --> 00:46:00,600
WAS THE SENSE OF,
NOBODY WAS EVER
986
00:46:01,100 --> 00:46:02,600
GOING TO MESS WITH HIS STUFF
AGAIN.
987
00:46:03,100 --> 00:46:04,200
THE NEXT THING I DID WAS,
988
00:46:04,700 --> 00:46:07,500
I WROTE A SCRIPT WITH
MY SCHOOL FRIEND, MICKEY ROSE.
989
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,000
FOR "TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN."
990
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:14,500
THE ONLY WAY I WANTED TO GET IT
ON WAS ME DIRECTING THAT.
991
00:46:14,500 --> 00:46:16,500
AT THAT TIME, I KNEW NOTHING
ABOUT PRODUCING,
992
00:46:16,500 --> 00:46:21,400
SO I WANTED TO LEARN TO DO IT
SO WE COULD CONTROL IT.
993
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,400
KEEP THE CONTROL AS CLOSE TO US
AS WE COULD.
994
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,700
AND JACK WAS INSTRUMENTAL
IN MAKING A DEAL FOR HIM
995
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,500
AFTER THAT, WHERE HE DIDN'T
SPEND A LOT OF MONEY,
996
00:46:32,500 --> 00:46:34,000
BUT HE HAD CONTROL OF THE FILM.
997
00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:37,700
Rollins: WE SOLD 'EM THE IDEA
THAT IF YOU WANT WOODY,
998
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,400
YOU MUST UNDERSTAND HOW TO WORK
WITH HIM,
999
00:46:40,900 --> 00:46:43,900
WHICH IS, LEAVE HIM ALONE.
1000
00:46:43,900 --> 00:46:47,400
HE'S DOING THE MOVIE,
AND HE'S DOING IT HIS WAY,
1001
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,900
AND NOBODY IS
GOING TO ASK QUESTIONS,
1002
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:51,700
AND NOBODY IS GOING TO INTERFERE
WITH HIM
1003
00:46:51,700 --> 00:46:54,700
AND GET HIM TRIPPED UP
IN ANY WAY.
1004
00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:57,700
HE WANTS NO CONTACT
WITH ANYBODY.
1005
00:46:57,700 --> 00:47:00,600
THAT'S WHAT WE GOT
IN OUR CONTRACT.
1006
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,100
[ LAUGHING ]
1007
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:10,800
HE WAS GOING THE NEXT DAY
TO DIRECT HIS VERY FIRST THING,
1008
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,300
AND HE WAS NERVOUS ABOUT IT.
1009
00:47:12,300 --> 00:47:14,800
AND I WALK INTO THE BEDROOM,
AND HE'S SITTING ON THE BED,
1010
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,300
YOU KNOW, WITH LEGS UP,
HOW YOU SIT ON THE BED AND READ?
1011
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:22,800
AND ON THE FRONT OF THE BOOK
IT SAYS, "HOW TO DIRECT."
1012
00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:26,000
I DIDN'T KNOW THE FIRST THING
ABOUT FILMMAKING OR --
1013
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,000
NOT THE FIRST THING.
1014
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,000
I KNEW THIS, THOUGH,
1015
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,500
THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE
1016
00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:31,500
A PSEUDO-DOCUMENTARY IN STYLE.
1017
00:47:31,500 --> 00:47:34,600
SO I HAD A STRUCTURE TO HANG ON
TO RIGHT FROM THE START.
1018
00:47:35,100 --> 00:47:37,600
Narrator: VIRGIL STEALS
TO PAY FOR CELLO LESSONS.
1019
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,600
AND ALTHOUGH HE DOES NOT ACHIEVE
GREATNESS ON THE INSTRUMENT,
1020
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,500
HE IS SOON GOOD ENOUGH
TO PLAY IN A LOCAL BAND.
1021
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:56,700
David: "TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN,"
1022
00:47:56,700 --> 00:47:58,700
I SAW WHEN I WAS IN THE ARMY.
1023
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,900
IT WAS PLAYING ON THE BASE.
1024
00:48:00,900 --> 00:48:03,300
AND, OF COURSE, I HAD JUST BEEN
THROUGH LIKE THE WORST HELL
1025
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:04,800
I'D EVER BEEN THROUGH
IN MY LIFE.
1026
00:48:05,300 --> 00:48:06,300
LIKE SIX, I CAN'T EVEN --
1027
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:07,800
LIKE, THEY WERE FIRING BULLETS
OVER MY HEAD,
1028
00:48:08,300 --> 00:48:10,300
I WAS CRAWLING ON THE GROUND,
I WAS IN BASIC TRAINING.
1029
00:48:10,300 --> 00:48:13,300
SO, ALL OF A SUDDEN,
WE GET THIS BREAK
1030
00:48:13,300 --> 00:48:14,300
THAT WE CAN GO TO THE MOVIES.
1031
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,700
YOU KNOW, AFTER BEING
IN THE ARMY
1032
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:19,200
AND GOING TO SEE THAT MOVIE,
1033
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,200
IT WAS THE MOST EXHILARATING,
1034
00:48:21,700 --> 00:48:24,200
AMAZING EXPERIENCE
TO JUST BE ABLE
1035
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,700
TO SIT THERE
AND LAUGH LIKE THAT
1036
00:48:25,700 --> 00:48:27,700
AFTER THE HELL
THAT I'D BEEN THROUGH.
1037
00:48:27,700 --> 00:48:30,700
AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT,
"OH, BOY."
1038
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,700
AND I THOUGHT, "BOY, I GOT
A CONNECTION TO THIS GUY."
1039
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,600
WHAT DOES THIS SAY?
1040
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,600
AHEM --
CAN'T YOU READ THAT?
1041
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,200
I CAN'T READ THIS.
1042
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:47,700
WHAT'S THIS?
1043
00:48:47,700 --> 00:48:48,700
"ACT NATURAL"?
1044
00:48:48,700 --> 00:48:51,200
NO, IT SAYS,
1045
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:52,700
"PLEASE PUT $50,000
INTO THIS BAG
1046
00:48:52,700 --> 00:48:54,200
AND ACT NATURAL."
1047
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:55,700
Man:
IT DOES SAY "ACT NATURAL."
1048
00:48:55,700 --> 00:49:00,200
"I AM POINTING A GUN AT YOU."
1049
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,200
THAT LOOKS LIKE "GUB."
1050
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,200
THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE "GUN."
1051
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,700
NO, IT'S "GUN."
1052
00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:06,700
NO, THAT'S "GUB."
1053
00:49:06,700 --> 00:49:07,700
THAT'S A "B."
1054
00:49:07,700 --> 00:49:09,200
NO.
SEE, THAT'S AN "N."
1055
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:10,200
IT'S G-U-N.
1056
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,200
IT'S "GUN."
1057
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,700
GEORGE, WOULD YOU
1058
00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:15,100
STEP OVER HERE A MOMENT,
PLEASE?
1059
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,100
WHAT DOES THIS SAY?
1060
00:49:19,100 --> 00:49:22,600
"PLEASE PUT $50,000
1061
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,600
INTO THIS BAG
AND 'ABT' NATURAL."
1062
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:25,600
WHAT'S "ABT"?
1063
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,100
IT'S "ACT."
1064
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,100
DOES THIS -- DOES THIS LOOK
LIKE "GUB" OR "GUN"?
1065
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:31,600
"GUN."
1066
00:49:32,100 --> 00:49:33,100
SEE?
1067
00:49:33,100 --> 00:49:34,100
BUT WHAT'S "ABT" MEAN?
1068
00:49:34,100 --> 00:49:35,100
IT'S "ACT," A-C-T.
1069
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:36,600
"ACT NATURAL."
1070
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,600
PLEASE PUT $50,000
INTO THIS BAG.
1071
00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:40,100
ACT NATURAL.
1072
00:49:40,100 --> 00:49:42,100
OH, I SEE.
1073
00:49:42,100 --> 00:49:44,100
THIS IS A HOLDUP?
YES.
1074
00:49:44,100 --> 00:49:46,100
MAY I SEE YOUR GUN?
1075
00:49:46,100 --> 00:49:47,900
OH.
1076
00:49:50,900 --> 00:49:51,900
WELL, YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE
THIS NOTE
1077
00:49:51,900 --> 00:49:54,500
INITIALED BY
ONE OF OUR VICE PRESIDENTS
1078
00:49:54,500 --> 00:49:56,000
BEFORE I CAN GIVE YOU ANY MONEY.
1079
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,000
Maltin:
"TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN"
1080
00:49:59,500 --> 00:50:00,500
WAS FINANCED
BY PALOMAR PICTURES,
1081
00:50:00,500 --> 00:50:03,500
WHICH WAS A DIVISION
OF THE ABC TELEVISION NETWORK.
1082
00:50:03,500 --> 00:50:06,100
AND WHEN IT WAS FINISHED,
THE EXECUTIVES LOOKED AT IT
1083
00:50:06,100 --> 00:50:08,600
AND DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO MAKE
OF THE FILM.
1084
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,000
AND WOODY SAID
THAT WHEN HE WAS SCREENING
1085
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,500
"TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN"
FOR THE EXECUTIVES
1086
00:50:13,500 --> 00:50:16,500
THAT AFTER 10 MINUTES
OF THE FIRST REEL,
1087
00:50:16,500 --> 00:50:18,000
ONE OF THE EXECUTIVES
LEANED TO HIM
1088
00:50:18,500 --> 00:50:20,500
AND SAID,
"IS THE REST LIKE THIS?"
1089
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,700
WHEN WE SHOWED IT TO PALOMAR,
1090
00:50:23,700 --> 00:50:28,600
THEY SUGGESTED BRINGING IN
RALPH ROSENBLUM TO HELP ME.
1091
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,100
RALPH WAS A WONDERFUL EDITOR.
1092
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:32,700
AND HE CAME IN AND SAW IT
1093
00:50:32,700 --> 00:50:35,700
AND LOOKED AT ALL THE STUFF
I HAD TAKEN OUT
1094
00:50:35,700 --> 00:50:39,200
AND SAID, "YOU GOTTA PUT
ALL THAT STUFF BACK.
1095
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,900
ALL THAT STUFF IS FUNNY.
WHY DID YOU TAKE IT OUT?"
1096
00:50:41,900 --> 00:50:43,400
AND I SAID, "WELL, YOU KNOW."
1097
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,900
HE SAID, "YOU CAN'T GO, YOU
GOTTA GIVE IT A FIGHTING CHANCE.
1098
00:50:45,900 --> 00:50:48,900
"PUT IT IN, PUT A PIECE OF MUSIC
BEHIND IT.
1099
00:50:48,900 --> 00:50:51,900
SHOW IT TO AN AUDIENCE
OF PEOPLE."
1100
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,400
SO WE DID, AND RALPH WAS RIGHT.
1101
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,300
AND THE PICTURE
PLAYED VERY WELL.
1102
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:04,500
AND IT OPENED AND WAS VERY
SUCCESSFUL, RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
1103
00:51:04,500 --> 00:51:07,000
AND THE FILM LAUNCHED MY CAREER.
1104
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,300
SO FROM MY FIRST MOVIE ON,
"TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN,"
1105
00:51:10,900 --> 00:51:13,900
WHEN I CERTAINLY
HAD DONE NOTHING
1106
00:51:13,900 --> 00:51:16,300
TO EARN COMPLETE CONTROL,
NOTHING,
1107
00:51:16,300 --> 00:51:18,300
I HAD COMPLETE CONTROL,
1108
00:51:18,300 --> 00:51:19,800
AND HAVE NEVER DONE A MOVIE
IN MY LIFE
1109
00:51:20,300 --> 00:51:22,800
WHERE I DIDN'T HAVE
COMPLETE CONTROL OF IT.
1110
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,300
WHEN WOODY SET HIS SIGHTS
ON PLAY WRITING,
1111
00:51:26,300 --> 00:51:28,100
HE ENJOYED GREAT SUCCESS WITH
HIS VERY FIRST STAGE COMEDY,
1112
00:51:28,100 --> 00:51:30,600
CALLED "DON'T DRINK THE WATER,"
ON BROADWAY,
1113
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,000
STARRING LOU JACOBI,
WHO LATER TURNED UP
1114
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,000
IN SOME OF HIS FILMS.
1115
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,800
IT HAD A GOOD RUN.
1116
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,700
AND IN IT, PLAYING
THE YOUNG ROMANTIC LEAD,
1117
00:51:38,700 --> 00:51:42,700
WAS AN ACTOR NAMED TONY ROBERTS
WHOM WOODY BEFRIENDED
1118
00:51:42,700 --> 00:51:45,600
AND ALSO CAST IN HIS NEXT PLAY,
1119
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,600
WHICH WAS "PLAY IT AGAIN, SAM,"
IN WHICH WOODY STARRED.
1120
00:51:48,700 --> 00:51:50,700
♪ YOU MUST REMEMBER THIS ♪
1121
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,200
Allen: IT WAS A LITTLE
1122
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:57,200
STAGE PLAY THAT --
THAT I WROTE MANY YEARS AGO,
1123
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,100
MOSTLY TO GIVE MYSELF
AN OPPORTUNITY
1124
00:52:00,100 --> 00:52:01,600
TO APPEAR ON STAGE.
1125
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:02,600
THE FACT THAT THEY ASKED ME
1126
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,600
TO PLAY THE MOVIE
A COUPLE YEARS LATER,
1127
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,400
THAT WAS FINE AND A NICE
OPPORTUNITY FOR ME.
1128
00:52:06,900 --> 00:52:07,900
I WAS VERY FORTUNATE
1129
00:52:07,900 --> 00:52:10,300
THAT HERB ROSS DIRECTED IT
1130
00:52:10,300 --> 00:52:11,800
AND DID A VERY GOOD JOB ON IT.
1131
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,300
I'M 29.
1132
00:52:13,300 --> 00:52:16,300
THE HEIGHT OF MY SEXUAL POTENCY
WAS TEN YEARS AGO.
1133
00:52:16,300 --> 00:52:17,800
OH, ALLEN,
1134
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:18,900
LOOK AT THE BRIGHT SIDE.
1135
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,400
YOU'RE FREE.
1136
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:21,900
YOU'LL GO OUT.
THERE'LL BE GIRLS.
1137
00:52:21,900 --> 00:52:25,600
YOU'LL GO TO PARTIES AND HAVE
AFFAIRS WITH MARRIED WOMEN,
1138
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,400
SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH GIRLS
OF EVERY RACE, CREED AND COLOR.
1139
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,600
OH, YOU GET TIRED OF THAT.
1140
00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:34,900
BECAUSE WE WERE ACTING TOGETHER
IN THE PLAY,
1141
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,600
WE BONDED, AND WE GOT TO BE
FRIENDS AND BECAME CLOSE.
1142
00:52:40,100 --> 00:52:43,400
AND OF COURSE, KEATON
WAS A LARGE PART OF THAT.
1143
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,500
♪ THIS IS THE DAWNING
OF THE AGE OF AQUARIUS ♪
1144
00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:48,000
Roberts: DIANE HAD BEEN
IN "HAIR"
1145
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,000
RIGHT BEFORE WE STARTED
REHEARSALS
1146
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,600
FOR "PLAY IT AGAIN, SAM."
1147
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,100
AND I WAS VERY IMPRESSED
WITH THAT.
1148
00:52:54,100 --> 00:52:58,100
I REMEMBER THAT DIANE
WAS THE ONLY ONE
1149
00:52:58,100 --> 00:53:00,600
WHO WOULDN'T TAKE OFF
HER CLOTHES.
1150
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,100
[ CHUCKLES ]
1151
00:53:02,100 --> 00:53:04,100
I WAS SENT UP FOR
"PLAY IT AGAIN, SAM,"
1152
00:53:04,100 --> 00:53:07,100
AND I AUDITIONED, ALONG WITH A
LOT OF YOUNG NEW YORK ACTRESSES.
1153
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,600
AND THAT'S WHAT I DID, I READ.
1154
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,600
AND I GOT THE PART.
1155
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,600
AT THE TIME, THEY WERE CONCERNED
1156
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,100
BECAUSE I MIGHT BE TOO TALL
FOR WOODY.
1157
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,800
SO I GOT UP ON STAGE AND WE DID
THAT BACK-TO-BACK THING
1158
00:53:20,300 --> 00:53:21,300
THAT KIDS DO AT BIRTHDAY
PARTIES,
1159
00:53:21,300 --> 00:53:24,800
AND WE WERE
JUST ABOUT THE SAME HEIGHT.
1160
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,200
AND WE LOOKED AT A NUMBER
OF OTHER WOMEN DURING THE WEEK,
1161
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,700
BUT KEATON WAS IN A CLASS
BY HERSELF.
1162
00:53:30,700 --> 00:53:32,200
Keaton: WHAT I REMEMBER
ABOUT WOODY
1163
00:53:32,700 --> 00:53:36,900
WAS THAT HE WAS SHORT,
AND HE WAS CUTE.
1164
00:53:36,900 --> 00:53:39,900
AND THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBERED
ABOUT WOODY ON THAT DAY,
1165
00:53:39,900 --> 00:53:43,400
WAS JUST THAT,
"OH, MY GOD, HE IS..."
1166
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,900
I -- YOU KNOW, I JUST HAD
A BIG CRUSH, INSTANTLY.
1167
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,200
Roberts: THE THREE OF US
1168
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,700
HAD A GOOD TIME TOGETHER.
1169
00:53:51,700 --> 00:53:53,200
WE GOT ALONG VERY WELL.
1170
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:54,200
WE HAD A LOT OF FUN.
1171
00:53:54,700 --> 00:53:56,400
ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT I ALWAYS REMEMBER
1172
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:57,900
IS THAT, YOU KNOW,
WOODY SEEMED TO HAVE
1173
00:53:57,900 --> 00:53:59,400
NO DISCIPLINE ONSTAGE.
1174
00:53:59,900 --> 00:54:03,100
AND HE WOULD SOMETIMES DO HIS
IMPRESSION OF JAMES EARL JONES
1175
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,100
WHILE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE
DOING IT DURING A MATINEE,
1176
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,100
AND I WOULD CRACK UP
AND DESTROY THE SCENE.
1177
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:09,900
THAT WAS ALWAYS A LOT OF FUN,
1178
00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:11,900
AND WE WOULD HANG OUT
AND EAT DINNER TOGETHER,
1179
00:54:11,900 --> 00:54:13,900
AND THAT'S HOW I REALLY
GOT TO KNOW HIM.
1180
00:54:13,900 --> 00:54:18,300
MY GAME PLAN WAS REALLY
TO FORCE WOODY TO LIKE ME.
1181
00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:20,800
SO I WAS ALWAYS PLOTTING AND
SCHEMING ABOUT HOW HE COULD GROW
1182
00:54:21,300 --> 00:54:23,500
TO SEE ME
AS AN ATTRACTIVE WOMAN.
1183
00:54:23,500 --> 00:54:25,400
I WAS ALWAYS DIRECTING
MY ATTENTIONS
1184
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,400
TO, "HOW CAN I MAKE HIM
LIKE ME MORE?"
1185
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,400
NOW, TELL HER SHE HAS
THE MOST IRRESISTIBLE EYES
1186
00:54:30,900 --> 00:54:33,900
YOU'VE EVER SEEN.
1187
00:54:33,900 --> 00:54:37,400
YOU HAVE THE MOST EYES
1188
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:38,900
I'VE EVER SEEN ON ANY PERSON.
1189
00:54:38,900 --> 00:54:42,100
ALLEN, YOUR HAND
IS TREMBLING.
1190
00:54:42,100 --> 00:54:43,600
"THAT'S BECAUSE
YOU'RE NEAR."
1191
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:44,600
PARDON ME?
1192
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,100
TELL HER THAT.
1193
00:54:48,100 --> 00:54:49,100
THAT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE NEAR.
1194
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:50,600
[ LAUGHS ]
1195
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,400
OH, YOU REALLY KNOW
WHAT TO SAY, DON'T YOU?
1196
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,400
NOW, TELL HER THAT YOU'VE
MET A LOT OF DAMES,
1197
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,400
BUT SHE IS REALLY
SOMETHING SPECIAL.
1198
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,400
OH, THAT,
SHE WON'T BELIEVE.
1199
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,400
OH, NO?
1200
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,800
I HAVE MET A LOT OF DAMES,
1201
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:11,300
BUT YOU ARE REALLY
SOMETHING SPECIAL.
1202
00:55:11,300 --> 00:55:12,800
REALLY?
1203
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,300
SHE BOUGHT IT.
1204
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,900
IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT HE WAS CRAZY
ABOUT HER, ON ALL LEVELS.
1205
00:55:18,900 --> 00:55:22,400
YOU COULD SEE THAT HAPPENING,
ABSOLUTELY,
1206
00:55:22,900 --> 00:55:26,100
ESPECIALLY WHEN I STOPPED
BEING ASKED TO DINNER.
1207
00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:29,900
SHE WAS ALWAYS BEAUTIFUL
AND INCREDIBLY GIFTED.
1208
00:55:29,900 --> 00:55:33,400
WE WENT OUT TOGETHER, AND WE
LIVED TOGETHER FOR A WHILE.
1209
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,100
SHE'S REMAINED A VERY CLOSE
FRIEND OF MINE TO THIS DAY.
1210
00:55:36,100 --> 00:55:37,800
I WORKED IT, YOU KNOW.
1211
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,800
I REALLY WORKED TRYING TO GET
HIM TO FALL IN LOVE WITH ME.
1212
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,800
HE DIDN'T QUITE
FALL IN LOVE WITH ME,
1213
00:55:42,300 --> 00:55:43,300
BUT I WAS AROUND A LOT.
1214
00:55:43,300 --> 00:55:45,300
AND WE MADE A GOOD TEAM.
1215
00:55:45,300 --> 00:55:48,100
WE WERE A GOOD TEAM.
1216
00:55:48,100 --> 00:55:49,900
DAVID PICKER WAS PRESIDENT,
1217
00:55:49,900 --> 00:55:53,900
ARTHUR KRIM, CHAIRMAN OF
THE BOARD OF UNITED ARTISTS.
1218
00:55:53,900 --> 00:55:55,800
AND THIS MAN CAME
AND INTRODUCED HIMSELF.
1219
00:55:56,300 --> 00:55:57,800
IT WAS DAVID PICKER.
1220
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:02,800
AND HE SAID, "I WANT WOODY TO
MAKE PICTURES FOR MY COMPANY."
1221
00:56:03,300 --> 00:56:04,500
I SAID, "GREAT."
1222
00:56:04,500 --> 00:56:06,000
HE SAID, "WHAT WILL IT TAKE?"
1223
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,800
I SAID, "PUT $2 MILLION
IN A PAPER BAG,
1224
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:14,300
GIVE IT TO US AND GO AWAY,
AND WE'LL BRING YOU A PICTURE."
1225
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,800
AND I SAID,
"AND DO THAT THREE TIMES."
1226
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,000
AND HE SAID, "YOU GOT A DEAL."
1227
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,900
AND IT WAS THAT SIMPLE.
1228
00:56:22,900 --> 00:56:24,400
COME BACK, BACK, BACK.
1229
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,400
MORE, MORE, MORE.
BACK, BACK.
1230
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,900
[ CRASH ]
1231
00:56:28,900 --> 00:56:30,200
I PLAY A CHARACTER WHO LIVES
IN NEW YORK
1232
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,700
WHO WORKS AS A TESTER
OF PRODUCTS.
1233
00:56:32,700 --> 00:56:36,100
I TEST NEW PRODUCTS TO SEE
IF THEY'RE SAFE FOR THE PUBLIC.
1234
00:56:36,100 --> 00:56:38,100
Man: WE CAN SHOW YOU
HOW YOU TURN IT OUT.
1235
00:56:38,100 --> 00:56:40,100
WE CAN SHOW YOU HOW YOU
CAN SAVE MONEY...
1236
00:56:40,100 --> 00:56:42,800
OH, BOY, I'D LIKE
TO DO THAT OVER.
1237
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,300
I GO TO A LATIN AMERICAN
COUNTRY,
1238
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,600
AND THROUGH A CIRCUITOUS
SERIES OF EVENTS,
1239
00:56:47,100 --> 00:56:49,600
I BECOME THE LEADER OF THAT
COUNTRY DURING A REVOLUTION.
1240
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,200
[ EXPLOSION ]
1241
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:52,500
Allen: AND COME BACK
TO THE UNITED STATES,
1242
00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:57,000
BEARDED AND WELL-TANNED
AND EBULLIENT,
1243
00:56:57,500 --> 00:56:58,200
AND I GET INTO A LOT OF TROUBLE
1244
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,700
WITH THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT
AS A RESULT.
1245
00:56:59,700 --> 00:57:03,700
I AM MR. HERNANDEZ,
THE OFFICIAL INTERPRETER.
1246
00:57:03,700 --> 00:57:05,700
WELCOME TO
THE UNITED STATES.
1247
00:57:05,700 --> 00:57:07,200
WELCOME TO UNITED STATES.
1248
00:57:07,700 --> 00:57:08,700
THANK YOU.
1249
00:57:08,700 --> 00:57:09,700
THANK YOU.
1250
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:10,700
DID YOU HAVE
A GOOD FLIGHT?
1251
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:12,200
DID YOU HAVE A GOOD FLIGHT?
1252
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:13,700
YES, I DID.
1253
00:57:13,700 --> 00:57:15,200
YES, I DID.
1254
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,200
WOODY'S LOVE INTEREST
IN "BANANAS"
1255
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,200
WAS HIS SECOND EX-WIFE,
LOUISE LASSER --
1256
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,200
A VERY FUNNY WOMAN.
1257
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,500
THEY WERE MARRIED
ON GROUNDHOG'S DAY IN 1966,
1258
00:57:25,500 --> 00:57:28,300
BUT BY THE TIME THEY GOT
TO MAKING THE MOVIE,
1259
00:57:28,300 --> 00:57:29,800
THEY WERE STILL FRIENDS,
1260
00:57:30,300 --> 00:57:31,400
BUT THEY HAD BEEN DIVORCED
FOR SOME TIME.
1261
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:37,100
FOR ME, LOUISE WAS SOMETHING
THAT STEPPED OUT OF A FANTASY.
1262
00:57:37,100 --> 00:57:38,600
HI.
1263
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,400
Allen: SHE WAS A BEAUTIFUL
YOUNG GIRL, VERY GIFTED.
1264
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,400
IT WAS JUST OVERWHELMING TO ME.
1265
00:57:43,900 --> 00:57:46,200
SHE WAS SUCH
A CAPTIVATING FIGURE.
1266
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:47,300
SHE WAS VERY FUNNY.
1267
00:57:47,300 --> 00:57:48,800
SHE HAD A NICE LAUGH.
1268
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:49,800
SHE WAS PRETTY, SEXY,
1269
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,900
AND SHE, YOU KNOW, WAS PERFECT.
1270
00:57:52,900 --> 00:57:54,800
YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST SAYING
TO SOMEONE THE OTHER DAY
1271
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,300
THAT THE SCANDINAVIANS
SEEM TO HAVE
1272
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,300
SUCH AN INSTINCTIVE FEEL
FOR THE HUMAN CONDITION.
1273
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,800
IT'S VERY WISE, YOU KNOW.
1274
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,300
THAT'S -- I THINK, PITHY.
1275
00:58:03,300 --> 00:58:06,800
OH, WELL, IT WAS PITHY.
1276
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,300
IT HAD GREAT PITH.
1277
00:58:10,300 --> 00:58:11,600
YETH.
1278
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:12,600
PITH.
1279
00:58:13,100 --> 00:58:13,800
PITH.
1280
00:58:14,300 --> 00:58:15,300
Lasser: I REMEMBER
1281
00:58:15,300 --> 00:58:17,300
I HAD PERIODS OF TIME
WHERE I COULDN'T SLEEP.
1282
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,300
AND I WOULD GET, LIKE,
REALLY BORED.
1283
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,300
I WOULD GO CRAZY,
AND HE WOULD JUST SLEEP.
1284
00:58:23,300 --> 00:58:26,300
AND I WOULD THINK,
"I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS.
1285
00:58:26,300 --> 00:58:32,300
"HERE, I'M WITH AMERICA'S
FOREMOST HUMORIST,
1286
00:58:32,300 --> 00:58:35,800
AND I CAN'T SLEEP,
AND I'M BORED," LIKE THAT.
1287
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,300
AND I WOULD JUST NUDGE HIM
AND GO, YOU KNOW,
1288
00:58:38,300 --> 00:58:41,300
"WOODY, WOODY, WAKE UP,
I'M BORED.
1289
00:58:41,300 --> 00:58:42,800
SAY SOMETHING FUNNY."
1290
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,100
WE NEVER WORKED TOGETHER
WHILE WE WERE MARRIED,
1291
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:50,600
BECAUSE WE FELT THAT IT WOULD
RUIN THE MARRIAGE.
1292
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,100
[ LAUGHTER ]
1293
00:58:52,100 --> 00:58:55,400
SO, NOW THAT WE'VE BEEN
DIVORCED FOR A YEAR,
1294
00:58:55,900 --> 00:58:57,400
WE FELT THAT WE
COULD WORK TOGETHER,
1295
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,500
AND, OF COURSE,
I GOT HER MUCH CHEAPER.
1296
00:58:59,500 --> 00:59:00,300
[ MOANING ]
1297
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:01,800
I LOVE YOU.
I LOVE YOU.
1298
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,300
OH, SAY IT IN FRENCH.
1299
00:59:03,300 --> 00:59:04,800
OH, PLEASE, SAY IT IN FRENCH.
1300
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:05,800
I DON'T KNOW FRENCH.
1301
00:59:06,300 --> 00:59:08,300
OH, PLEASE?
PLEASE?
1302
00:59:08,300 --> 00:59:09,300
WHAT ABOUT HEBREW?
1303
00:59:09,300 --> 00:59:10,300
OH.
1304
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:15,000
IF I HAD TO PICK, PERSONALLY,
THE FUNNIEST ONE,
1305
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,000
I WOULD PICK "BANANAS."
1306
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,300
[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]
1307
00:59:18,300 --> 00:59:21,600
Man: READY, AIM, FIRE.
1308
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,100
[ GUNSHOT ]
1309
00:59:23,100 --> 00:59:24,600
[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]
1310
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:25,600
OH, LET'S SEE.
1311
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,100
21.
WHO HAS 21?
1312
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,800
Man: READY, AIM, FIRE.
[ GUNSHOT ]
1313
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,300
IN DECEMBER, I'M GOING TO GO
INTO PRODUCTION
1314
00:59:37,300 --> 00:59:38,800
WITH A FILM THAT I WROTE
1315
00:59:39,300 --> 00:59:40,500
BASED ON DR. REUBEN'S BOOK,
1316
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:42,500
"EVERYTHING YOU ALWAYS WANTED TO
KNOW ABOUT SEX,
1317
00:59:42,500 --> 00:59:44,500
BUT WE'RE AFRAID TO ASK."
1318
00:59:44,500 --> 00:59:46,300
I'VE WRITTEN A SCRIPT
THAT CAN ONLY BE DESCRIBED
1319
00:59:46,300 --> 00:59:49,300
AS RABELAISIAN AND...
1320
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:50,800
Cavett: WHAT WOULD BE
ANOTHER WORD FOR IT?
1321
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,300
UH, TRASHY.
1322
00:59:52,300 --> 00:59:53,300
[ LAUGHTER ]
1323
00:59:53,300 --> 00:59:55,500
IT'S AN EXPLORATION
OF THE INS
1324
00:59:55,500 --> 00:59:57,600
AND OUTS,
EVERY LITTLE NOOK
1325
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,500
AND CRANNY OF OUR
SEXUAL MOTIVATIONS
1326
01:00:01,500 --> 01:00:03,900
AND INTERESTS,
AND GRAPHICALLY ILLUSTRATED.
1327
01:00:03,900 --> 01:00:05,400
IT WOULD BE SEXUAL RELATIONS
1328
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,900
IF THE MARX BROTHERS
WERE DOING THEM.
1329
01:00:07,900 --> 01:00:12,200
HEY! WE'RE GOING TO
MAKE BABIES!
1330
01:00:12,700 --> 01:00:15,400
[ INDISTINCT MURMURING ]
1331
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:16,300
HERE WE GO AGAIN!
1332
01:00:16,300 --> 01:00:17,300
I'M NOT GOING OUT THERE!
1333
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,800
I'M NOT GONNA GET
SHOT OUT OF THAT THING.
1334
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:20,800
WHAT IF HE'S MASTURBATING?
1335
01:00:21,300 --> 01:00:22,800
I'M LIABLE TO WIND UP
ON THE CEILING.
1336
01:00:23,300 --> 01:00:23,800
NO.
1337
01:00:24,300 --> 01:00:25,800
Allen: BUT IN RETROSPECT,
1338
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,300
I DON'T THINK
IT WAS A VERY GOOD IDEA,
1339
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:28,800
AND WOULD NOT DO IT AGAIN.
1340
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,800
IF I HAD IT TO DO OVER,
WOULD NOT DO IT AGAIN.
1341
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,200
WOODY ALLEN WAS BUILDING
A FAN BASE AT THIS TIME
1342
01:00:33,700 --> 01:00:35,300
IN THE '70s,
BUT HE NEVER BECAME,
1343
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,900
YOU KNOW, A HUGE
BOX OFFICE ATTRACTION.
1344
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:39,100
BUT HE WAS CLEVER.
1345
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,100
HE MADE HIS FILMS
ECONOMICALLY,
1346
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,600
HE DIDN'T PAY HIMSELF
VERY MUCH AT ALL,
1347
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,100
IF ANYTHING,
AND HE ADOPTED THE PHILOSOPHY
1348
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,600
THAT IF HE MADE
THE FILMS ECONOMICALLY
1349
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,600
AND THEY MADE EVEN ONE DOLLAR,
1350
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,100
HE'D BE GIVEN THE GO-AHEAD
TO MAKE ANOTHER FILM.
1351
01:00:53,100 --> 01:00:55,100
YOU KNOW, HE'S NOT
EVERYONE'S TASTE,
1352
01:00:55,100 --> 01:00:56,600
AND NEVER WAS.
1353
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,900
IT'S ONE THING TO BE APPRECIATED
DOWN IN THE VILLAGE
1354
01:00:58,900 --> 01:01:00,900
AT THE BITTER END
AND ANOTHER ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
1355
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,400
MY WORKING WITH HIM
PROFESSIONALLY
1356
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,900
IN BEING A PRODUCER,
IT STILL AMAZES ME LOTS OF TIMES
1357
01:01:06,900 --> 01:01:09,300
WHEN PEOPLE RECOGNIZE HIM
OR KNOW HIS NAME,
1358
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,800
BECAUSE TO ME HE WAS
ALWAYS MY BROTHER.
1359
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,800
NO, I THINK SHE LOOKS GOOD
IN THE CLOTHES.
1360
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,300
I THINK THIS IS --
THIS IS REALLY GOOD.
1361
01:01:15,300 --> 01:01:16,300
IT LOOKS NICE.
1362
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,800
WHEN I WAS BORN,
WOODY WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD.
1363
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,800
YOU KNOW, HE WAS
A VERY DEVOTED BROTHER.
1364
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,800
VERY -- WE WERE
ALWAYS VERY CLOSE,
1365
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,100
YOU KNOW, AND I IDOLIZED HIM.
1366
01:01:25,100 --> 01:01:27,600
Allen: SHE WAS JUST
A CUTE LITTLE BABY GIRL.
1367
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,100
THERE WAS NO SENSE OF
COMPETITION OR ANYTHING.
1368
01:01:30,100 --> 01:01:32,600
SHE BECAME A VERY GOOD
FRIEND OF MINE
1369
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:37,100
RIGHT AWAY AND I GOT ALONG
WITH HER SWIMMINGLY.
1370
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:38,800
YOU WERE VERY GOOD TO LETTY.
1371
01:01:39,300 --> 01:01:40,500
YOU -- WHEN SHE
WENT TO SCHOOL,
1372
01:01:40,500 --> 01:01:43,000
YOU USED TO TAKE HER TO
KINDERGARTEN AND BRING HER HOME.
1373
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,500
THAT WAS YOUR BABY SISTER,
YOU ADORED HER.
1374
01:01:45,500 --> 01:01:47,500
Lasser: HE WOULD DO
A MAGIC ACT,
1375
01:01:47,500 --> 01:01:50,900
AND HE PUT HER IN
THE AUDIENCE AS HIS SHILL.
1376
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,400
SHE WAS LIKE THREE YEARS OLD.
1377
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,900
SO HE WOULD DO SOMETHING
AND SHE HAD TO SAY,
1378
01:01:55,900 --> 01:01:58,400
"LOOK AT HIS RIGHT HAND.
LOOK AT HIS RIGHT HAND."
1379
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,900
'CAUSE IT WOULD BE THE LEFT,
RIGHT? LIKE THAT.
1380
01:02:00,900 --> 01:02:01,900
HE FELT THAT HE WANTED
1381
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,700
TO EXPOSE HER TO GOOD THINGS
1382
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,700
AND HE WOULD JUST
TAKE HER ALL AROUND.
1383
01:02:08,700 --> 01:02:10,700
I ALWAYS FOUND THAT
VERY TOUCHING.
1384
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:12,700
THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
1385
01:02:12,700 --> 01:02:14,500
WE WERE IN THE SAME --
AT P.S. 99 --
1386
01:02:14,500 --> 01:02:16,000
THE SAME SCHOOL A SHORT TIME
1387
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,500
BECAUSE HE WAS EIGHT YEARS
OLDER THAN ME.
1388
01:02:18,500 --> 01:02:20,400
I USED TO -- WE'D SNEAK OFF
AND PLAY HOOKY
1389
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:21,900
WITH ANY NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
1390
01:02:21,900 --> 01:02:25,200
WE USED GO TO THE MOVIES
IN MANHATTAN.
1391
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,700
THAT WAS ONE OF MY
GREAT JOYS IN LIFE.
1392
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,200
Aronson: I WAS AWARE OF
SOME OF HIS TRUANCY.
1393
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,100
I KNEW BECAUSE I HAD BEEN
WARNED BY WOODY
1394
01:02:34,100 --> 01:02:36,500
THAT WHEN MRS. FLETCHER,
THE PRINCIPAL,
1395
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:38,500
CAME TO THE CLASS AND WOULD SAY,
1396
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,500
"LETTY KONIGSBERG,
IS YOUR MOTHER AT HOME?"
1397
01:02:41,500 --> 01:02:45,000
I WOULD KNOW TO SAY, "NO,
I'M SORRY, SHE'S NOT AT HOME."
1398
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,100
Allen: I DON'T HAVE GOOD THINGS
TO SAY ABOUT SCHOOL.
1399
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,300
YOU KNOW, I WAS
THE WORLD'S WORST STUDENT.
1400
01:02:55,300 --> 01:02:58,300
I HATED SCHOOL WITH A PASSION,
TO THIS DAY.
1401
01:02:58,300 --> 01:03:01,300
AND WHEN I THINK BACK ON IT,
IT WAS A CURSE.
1402
01:03:01,300 --> 01:03:04,300
WHEN I GOT OLDER,
THE NEIGHBORHOOD GOT TOUGHER.
1403
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:06,800
A KID TRIED TO
RUN ME OVER IN HERE,
1404
01:03:07,300 --> 01:03:09,800
AND I WAS PLAYING BALL
AND HE DROVE HIS CAR
1405
01:03:10,300 --> 01:03:12,800
FAST RIGHT IN
AND TRIED TO HIT ME WITH IT.
1406
01:03:13,300 --> 01:03:15,300
AND THAT IRON THING WAS
NOT OVER THERE,
1407
01:03:15,300 --> 01:03:18,300
AND I WAS ABLE TO GET INTO
THAT LITTLE POCKET.
1408
01:03:18,300 --> 01:03:21,700
SO HE COULDN'T GET ME
WITH THE CAR,
1409
01:03:21,700 --> 01:03:23,100
BUT HE CAME REAL CLOSE.
1410
01:03:23,100 --> 01:03:25,600
Aronson: WOODY HAD
DISDAIN FOR SCHOOL.
1411
01:03:26,100 --> 01:03:28,300
THE TEACHERS WERE
NOT NICE IN THOSE DAYS.
1412
01:03:28,300 --> 01:03:29,700
THEY WERE VERY ANTI-SEMITIC.
1413
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,700
THEY WERE ALMOST ALL GENTILES,
AND HE WASN'T YOUR BEST STUDENT.
1414
01:03:33,700 --> 01:03:36,700
SO, YOU KNOW, HE WAS
NOT TREATED NICELY
1415
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,200
AND HE HAD NO REGARD FOR IT,
HE DIDN'T CARE.
1416
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:41,700
SO FROM THEIR POINT OF VIEW,
1417
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,200
HE WASN'T INTERESTED IN
WHAT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN.
1418
01:03:45,700 --> 01:03:48,400
Allen: WE USED TO WRITE
COMPOSITIONS IN CLASS,
1419
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,400
AND I ALWAYS WROTE WHAT I
THOUGHT AT THE TIME
1420
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:52,400
WERE AMUSING ONES.
1421
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,900
I WAS WRITING ABOUT THIS GIRL
1422
01:03:54,900 --> 01:03:58,000
AND I MADE ONE
STANDARD JOKE ABOUT HER.
1423
01:03:58,100 --> 01:04:00,600
YOU KNOW, SHE HAD
AN HOURGLASS FIGURE
1424
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,100
AND I WANTED TO
PLAY IN THE SAND,
1425
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,200
AND YOU CAN'T BELIEVE
THE FUSS THAT THEY MADE.
1426
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,700
UGH! HE KISSED ME!
HE KISSED ME! YECCH!
1427
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:11,400
THAT'S THE SECOND TIME
THIS MONTH.
1428
01:04:11,900 --> 01:04:12,400
STEP UP HERE.
1429
01:04:12,900 --> 01:04:13,900
WHAT DID I DO?
STEP UP HERE!
1430
01:04:13,900 --> 01:04:16,400
WHAT DID I DO?
YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF!
1431
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:17,900
Alvy: WHY?
I WAS JUST EXPRESSING
1432
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,200
A HEALTHY SEXUAL CURIOSITY.
1433
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,600
SIX-YEAR-OLD BOYS DON'T HAVE
GIRLS ON THEIR MINDS.
1434
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,600
I DID.
FOR GOD SAKES, ALVY,
1435
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,600
EVEN FREUD SPEAKS OF
A LATENCY PERIOD.
1436
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,100
WELL, I NEVER HAD
A LATENCY PERIOD.
1437
01:04:31,100 --> 01:04:32,200
I CAN'T HELP IT.
1438
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,100
THIS WAS THE FRONT
OF THE SCHOOL,
1439
01:04:35,100 --> 01:04:36,000
PUBLIC SCHOOL 99,
1440
01:04:36,500 --> 01:04:38,000
ISAAC ASIMOV SCHOOL FOR
SCIENCE AND LITERATURE.
1441
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,600
AND IT'S IRONIC,
'CAUSE YEARS LATER,
1442
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,600
ASIMOV WAS A WONDERFUL GUY
1443
01:04:44,100 --> 01:04:47,300
AND MARSHALL BRICKMAN AND I SENT
HIM THE SCRIPT OF "SLEEPER"
1444
01:04:47,300 --> 01:04:49,300
BEFORE WE DID
THE MOVIE AND SAID,
1445
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,000
"IS THERE ANYTHING IN HERE
THAT WE SHOULD BE ALERTED TO
1446
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,000
THAT DOESN'T STRIKE YOU
AS REAL, OR..."
1447
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:56,500
AND HE READ IT
FOR US AND SAID,
1448
01:04:56,500 --> 01:04:58,800
"NO, NO, IT'S VERY GOOD,"
AND IT WAS VERY HELPFUL.
1449
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,800
HELLO. I'M RAGS. WOOF. WOOF.
1450
01:05:01,300 --> 01:05:02,500
IS HE HOUSEBROKEN,
OR WILL HE BE LEAVING
1451
01:05:02,500 --> 01:05:04,000
LITTLE BATTERIES
ALL OVER THE FLOOR?
1452
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,200
Man: BY THE WAY,
"SLEEPER" IS
1453
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,500
THE FIRST REFERENCE
I EVER REMEMBER TO CLONING.
1454
01:05:08,500 --> 01:05:10,500
RIGHT. AT THAT TIME --
THAT'S WHY I EXPLAINED IT
1455
01:05:10,500 --> 01:05:12,500
IN THE MOVIE,
'CAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW
1456
01:05:12,500 --> 01:05:14,500
WHAT CLONING WAS THEN.
THEY HAD NO IDEA.
1457
01:05:14,500 --> 01:05:17,000
NOW, IT'S, YOU KNOW,
EVERYBODY CLONES.
1458
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,500
[ LAUGHS ]
1459
01:05:18,500 --> 01:05:19,500
ONE DAY, I -- I WAS
1460
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,700
WALKING DOWN THE STREET
AND THOUGHT, "GOSH,
1461
01:05:21,700 --> 01:05:23,200
IT WOULD BE REALLY FUNNY
TO DO A MOVIE
1462
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,000
WHERE I GET FROZEN
AND WAKE UP IN THE FUTURE."
1463
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,000
Miles: I'M A CLARINET PLAYER
IN 1973,
1464
01:05:28,500 --> 01:05:30,200
I GO INTO THE HOSPITAL
FOR A LOUSY OPERATION,
1465
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,200
I WAKE UP 200 YEARS LATER,
AND I'M FLASH GORDON.
1466
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:33,200
Allen: MY FIRST THOUGHT
1467
01:05:33,700 --> 01:05:36,900
WAS THAT IT WOULD BE
A THREE-HOUR FILM, A TWO-PARTER.
1468
01:05:36,900 --> 01:05:39,400
THE FIRST HALF
BEFORE THE INTERMISSION
1469
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,900
WAS GOING TO BE THIS GUY'S LIFE
IN NEW YORK, CONTEMPORARY.
1470
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,100
AND AT THE END OF THE HOUR,
THE HOUR AND A HALF,
1471
01:05:46,100 --> 01:05:48,100
I WOULD FALL INTO A VAT OF,
YOU KNOW,
1472
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,600
THE CRYOGENIC VAT
AND GET FROZEN.
1473
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,400
AND THEN THERE WAS GOING TO BE
AN INTERMISSION
1474
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,400
WHERE PEOPLE GO OUT
AND BUY POPCORN.
1475
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,700
Allen: AND WHEN THEY'D
COME IN FOR THE SECOND HALF,
1476
01:05:56,700 --> 01:05:58,200
WE'D BE TOTALLY IN THE FUTURE.
1477
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,200
WE'D BE 200 YEARS
IN THE FUTURE.
1478
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,500
AND WE VERY SOON
WERE DISABUSED OF THAT
1479
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,200
FOR A LOT OF REASONS.
1480
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,700
Allen: IT WAS SUCH
A MASSIVE UNDERTAKING
1481
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:07,500
THAT I SAID,
1482
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:08,800
YOU KNOW, FORGET IT.
1483
01:06:09,300 --> 01:06:11,800
WE'LL JUST DO
THE FUTURISTIC PART OF IT.
1484
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:16,100
CAN I HELP YOU?
1485
01:06:16,100 --> 01:06:18,000
WOULD YOU CHANGE HIS HEAD
FOR ME PLEASE?
1486
01:06:18,500 --> 01:06:20,300
SOMETHING A LITTLE
MORE AESTHETIC.
1487
01:06:20,300 --> 01:06:22,200
Man: YOU GOT ROOM IN THERE
FOR ANOTHER HEAD CHANGE?
1488
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,200
YEAH. SURE.
1489
01:06:26,900 --> 01:06:29,400
Allen: ANOTHER PLOY THAT --
1490
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,200
THAT INTERESTED ME IN THAT
WAS I WANTED TO DO
1491
01:06:31,700 --> 01:06:32,900
SOMETHING WHERE I
WOKE UP IN A SOCIETY
1492
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,100
WHERE NOBODY SPOKE
AND I WOULD HAVE HAD TO
1493
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:40,100
HAVE PLAYED THE WHOLE FILM
AS A FUGITIVE, BUT SILENT.
1494
01:06:40,100 --> 01:06:43,100
AND IT WOULD'VE GIVEN ME
AN EXCUSE TO MAKE
1495
01:06:43,100 --> 01:06:45,600
A SILENT COMEDY
WITHOUT ACTUALLY GOING
1496
01:06:46,100 --> 01:06:47,100
AND DOING A THROWBACK.
1497
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,600
Brickman: WE WANTED TO DO
A MOVIE WITHOUT ANY DIALOGUE.
1498
01:06:51,100 --> 01:06:54,300
A VERY, VERY STUPID IDEA.
1499
01:06:54,300 --> 01:06:57,200
AND THEN WE REALIZED
THAT OUR STRONG SUIT
1500
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:58,700
WAS ACTUALLY DIALOGUE.
1501
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:03,000
WHAT'S IT FEEL LIKE
TO BE DEAD FOR 200 YEARS?
1502
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:07,000
IT'S LIKE SPENDING
A WEEKEND IN BEVERLY HILLS.
1503
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,400
SOME OF THE IDEA OF
DOING PHYSICAL COMEDY
1504
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,400
DID REMAIN.
1505
01:07:11,900 --> 01:07:13,700
THERE ARE THREE OR FOUR
SEQUENCES THAT ARE --
1506
01:07:13,700 --> 01:07:16,600
YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONE WITH
THE LITTLE HELICOPTER BACKPACK.
1507
01:07:21,300 --> 01:07:25,500
OF COURSE, THERE'S THAT ONE
SEQUENCE WITH THE GIANT BANANA.
1508
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:39,600
OH, MY GOD.
1509
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,100
I BEAT A MAN INSENSIBLE
WITH A STRAWBERRY.
1510
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,900
Man: IS HE USUALLY --
IS HE EASY TO BREAK UP?
1511
01:07:44,900 --> 01:07:47,400
NO. NOT, NOT --
BUT WHEN HE DOES, THAT'S IT.
1512
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,400
I MEAN, YOU KNOW,
ONCE HE STARTS LAUGHING,
1513
01:07:49,900 --> 01:07:51,400
THEN HE JUST
KEEPS LAUGHING.
1514
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:52,900
OKAY. LET'S GO.
1515
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:54,400
Man: ALL RIGHT,
HERE WE GO.
1516
01:07:54,900 --> 01:07:56,400
Allen: KEATON
MAKES ME LAUGH PROBABLY
1517
01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:01,400
MORE THAN ANY OTHER PERSON,
BECAUSE SHE'S SO FUNNY.
1518
01:08:01,900 --> 01:08:03,400
Man: AND ACTION.
1519
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:07,900
WHEN WE WERE DOING "SLEEPER,"
THEY WERE REVIVING ME
1520
01:08:07,900 --> 01:08:11,400
BY TRYING TO
RECREATE MY HOME LIFE.
1521
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:12,700
THIS WAS SOME
PSYCHOLOGICAL PLOY.
1522
01:08:12,700 --> 01:08:15,600
BUT KEATON,
PLAYING MY MOTHER,
1523
01:08:16,100 --> 01:08:18,600
WAS JUST SO FUNNY TO ME
THAT I COULDN'T --
1524
01:08:19,100 --> 01:08:21,100
I COULDN'T ACT
THE SCENE WITH HER.
1525
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,300
Keaton: NU, WHAT ARE YOU
STANDING THERE?
1526
01:08:23,300 --> 01:08:25,400
COME IN!
YOUR FOOD IS GETTING COLD!
1527
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:26,400
[Laughing]
I CAN'T.
1528
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:29,900
[ LAUGHTER ]
1529
01:08:29,900 --> 01:08:32,300
MILES,
I COOKED YOUR FAVORITE,
1530
01:08:32,300 --> 01:08:35,300
A NICE BOWL OF
HOT SELTZER WATER.
1531
01:08:35,300 --> 01:08:37,800
[ LAUGHS ]
1532
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,300
Allen: I MEAN,
I JUST COULDN'T DO IT.
1533
01:08:44,300 --> 01:08:45,800
I TRIED AND I TRIED
AND I TRIED.
1534
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:46,800
SORRY.
1535
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:48,300
[ LAUGHTER ]
1536
01:08:48,300 --> 01:08:50,800
Allen: I'D SUDDENLY
BE LOOKING AT HER
1537
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:54,300
AND SHE'D BE LOOKING UP AT ME
AND I COULDN'T STOP LAUGHING.
1538
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,400
I WOULD JUST
NOT BE ABLE TO STOP.
1539
01:08:58,500 --> 01:09:00,000
NU, WHAT ARE YOU
STANDING THERE?
1540
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,000
COME IN!
1541
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:03,500
ALL RIGHT,
LET'S GO ONTO ELSE.
1542
01:09:03,500 --> 01:09:04,500
I OBVIOUSLY
CAN'T DO THIS.
1543
01:09:04,500 --> 01:09:06,000
[ LAUGHTER ]
1544
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,500
Allen: I RECALL, VERY EARLY,
BEING TAKEN TO A DISNEY FILM.
1545
01:09:08,500 --> 01:09:10,000
I THINK IT WAS "SNOW WHITE."
1546
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,500
I REMEMBER BOLTING
OUT OF MY SEAT
1547
01:09:12,500 --> 01:09:15,500
TO TRY AND RUN UP THE AISLE
AND TOUCH THE SCREEN
1548
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,000
'CAUSE I WAS SO FASCINATED
WITH WHAT IT WAS.
1549
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,500
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,
WHEN I WAS A KID,
1550
01:09:21,500 --> 01:09:23,500
WE DIDN'T --
WE HAD NO IDEA
1551
01:09:23,500 --> 01:09:25,000
WHAT THAT PROCESS WAS.
1552
01:09:25,500 --> 01:09:29,000
AND SO I WOULD SIT AND A KID
NEXT TO ME IN CLASS WOULD SAY,
1553
01:09:29,500 --> 01:09:32,500
"I WAS AT THE MOVIE THEATER,
YOU KNOW, ON SATURDAY,
1554
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:36,000
AND I FINISHED MY RAISINETS
AND I MADE A SPITBALL
1555
01:09:36,500 --> 01:09:38,500
OUT OF MY CARDBOARD BOX,
YOU KNOW,
1556
01:09:38,500 --> 01:09:41,000
WITH A PIECE OF
MY CARDBOARD BOX,
1557
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,000
AND I THREW THE SPITBALL UP
AND HIT THE SCREEN,
1558
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,500
AND WHEN IT HIT THE SCREEN,
IT BURST INTO FLAME."
1559
01:09:45,500 --> 01:09:47,500
SO I SAID,
"NO KIDDING, REALLY?"
1560
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,000
AND, YOU KNOW,
AND I WANTED TO --
1561
01:09:50,500 --> 01:09:52,000
I WANTED TO FIND OUT
WHAT WAS --
1562
01:09:52,500 --> 01:09:54,000
WHAT THAT PROCESS WAS.
1563
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,500
AND THERE WAS
A MOVIE THEATER HERE
1564
01:10:01,500 --> 01:10:05,500
AND I USED THE NAME OF IT
IN "PURPLE ROSE."
1565
01:10:05,500 --> 01:10:06,900
IT WAS CALLED THE JEWEL.
1566
01:10:06,900 --> 01:10:09,400
AND THE JEWEL WAS ONE OF
THE FIRST MOVIE HOUSES
1567
01:10:09,900 --> 01:10:12,400
IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
TO SHOW FOREIGN FILMS.
1568
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,900
I SAW MY FIRST
INGMAR BERGMAN FILM THERE.
1569
01:10:14,900 --> 01:10:16,700
AND IT WAS RIGHT AROUND HERE --
1570
01:10:16,700 --> 01:10:18,700
I THINK IT WAS ON
THE NEXT BLOCK.
1571
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,200
COULD THIS HAVE BEEN IT?
1572
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:22,700
MAYBE THIS WAS IT.
1573
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:24,700
MAYBE THIS WAS IT.
1574
01:10:27,700 --> 01:10:30,200
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE JEWEL.
1575
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:33,200
I LIVED IN BROOKLYN
IN THIS REPRESSED ERA.
1576
01:10:33,700 --> 01:10:35,300
THERE WAS A BERGMAN FILM
PLAYING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
1577
01:10:35,300 --> 01:10:37,000
WITH HARRIET ANDERSSON.
1578
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,000
IT WAS "SUMMER WITH MONIKA."
1579
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,500
AND SHE WAS ALLEGEDLY
NAKED IN THE FILM.
1580
01:10:41,500 --> 01:10:43,000
SO I BEAT A QUICK PATH
1581
01:10:43,500 --> 01:10:46,200
TO THE DOOR
AND I WENT TO SEE THAT FILM
1582
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:49,900
JUST SO I COULD SEE A WOMAN
WITHOUT HER CLOTHES ON.
1583
01:10:49,900 --> 01:10:52,300
AND IT WAS A FABULOUS MOVIE
APART FROM THE NUDITY.
1584
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,000
THEN A FEW YEARS LATER,
1585
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,000
THEY SHOWED
"THE SEVENTH SEAL"
1586
01:10:57,000 --> 01:11:01,000
AND "WILD STRAWBERRIES"
AND "THE MAGICIAN."
1587
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,200
Allen: I THOUGHT THAT
IT'S POINTLESS FOR ME
1588
01:11:13,700 --> 01:11:15,900
TO WORK ANYMORE BECAUSE
NO ONE WILL EVER
1589
01:11:15,900 --> 01:11:17,800
BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING
BETTER THAN THIS.
1590
01:11:18,300 --> 01:11:22,000
BERGMAN, YOU KNOW,
HAD JUST REACHED THE LIMITS
1591
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,500
OF WHAT YOU COULD DO IN FILM,
1592
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:25,500
AND THERE WAS
NOWHERE ELSE TO GO.
1593
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:27,000
SO I FOUND MYSELF
1594
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,400
IN AN ODD POSITION
WHERE I WAS
1595
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,400
INFLUENCED BY GROUCHO MAX
1596
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:34,400
AND BOB HOPE
AND INGMAR BERGMAN.
1597
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:35,900
I MEAN, THERE WAS NO
1598
01:11:35,900 --> 01:11:37,400
RATIONALITY TO IT.
1599
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,400
AND SO YOU WOULD GET A FILM
LIKE "LOVE AND DEATH,"
1600
01:11:40,900 --> 01:11:43,400
FOR EXAMPLE,
WHICH WAS A FILM THAT HAS
1601
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:44,400
A BERGMAN INFLUENCE
1602
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,400
BUT IS SO CLEARLY
A COMIC FILM.
1603
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,400
BORIS!
BORIS, WHAT HAPPENED?
1604
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:51,900
I GOT SCREWED.
1605
01:11:51,900 --> 01:11:53,400
HOW?
I DON'T KNOW.
1606
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:54,900
SOME VISION CAME
AND SAID THAT
1607
01:11:54,900 --> 01:11:57,400
I WAS GONNA GET PARDONED,
AND THEY SHOT ME.
1608
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,400
YOU WERE MY ONE
GREAT LOVE!
1609
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,700
OH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
1610
01:12:02,700 --> 01:12:04,700
NOW, IF YOU'LL EXCUSE ME,
I'M DEAD.
1611
01:12:04,700 --> 01:12:06,500
Allen: AND SO I WAS
KICKING AROUND MY HOUSE
1612
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:08,000
LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO DO,
1613
01:12:08,500 --> 01:12:09,700
AND I JUST HAPPENED TO SEE
1614
01:12:09,700 --> 01:12:11,700
A RUSSIAN HISTORY BOOK
ON MY SHELF.
1615
01:12:11,700 --> 01:12:15,200
I THOUGHT, "GEE,
IT WOULD BE FUNNY TO DO A FILM
1616
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,100
BASED ON ALL THAT
RUSSIAN LITERATURE
1617
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,100
AND ALL THOSE RUSSIAN CLICHES."
1618
01:12:19,100 --> 01:12:20,600
♪
1619
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,100
[ MAN WHISTLES ]
1620
01:12:22,100 --> 01:12:24,000
YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS
HAD A GREAT LOVE
1621
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,600
OF HEAVY LITERATURE
AND HEAVY THEMES IN GENERAL.
1622
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:32,900
I'M INTERESTED
AND ATTRACTED TO THEM
1623
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:34,600
AND ALSO FIND THEM VERY FUNNY.
1624
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,600
NON-EXISTENCE,
1625
01:12:38,100 --> 01:12:40,100
BLACK EMPTINESS.
1626
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:42,600
Sonja: WHAT'D YOU SAY?
1627
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,100
OH, I WAS -- I WAS JUST
PLANNING MY FUTURE.
1628
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,800
AND I THOUGHT IT WAS
AN AREA WHERE I COULD THEN
1629
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,800
GET IN A LOT OF SUBJECT MATTER
THAT I LIKE TO TALK ABOUT,
1630
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,100
PHILOSOPHICAL THEMES
AND DEATH AND LONGING,
1631
01:12:53,100 --> 01:12:56,300
AND THEN I THOUGHT IT'D BE
FUN TO DO THAT AND, YOU KNOW,
1632
01:12:56,300 --> 01:12:58,800
I THOUGHT I'D DO
A BIG CARTOON FILM ABOUT IT
1633
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,700
AND TRY TO MAKE IT AS FUNNY
AS I COULD MAKE IT AT THE TIME.
1634
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:07,400
BOY, THIS -- THIS ARMY COOKING
WILL GET YOU EVERY TIME.
1635
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:10,300
OH, GOD IS TESTING US.
1636
01:13:10,300 --> 01:13:12,300
IF HE'S GOING TO TEST US,
1637
01:13:12,300 --> 01:13:14,300
WHY DOESN'T HE GIVE US
A WRITTEN?
1638
01:13:14,300 --> 01:13:16,200
THOUGH I DO I FEEL THAT
1639
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,100
THE FIRST GROUP
OF FOUR OR FIVE FILMS
1640
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,400
THAT I MADE WERE FUNNY
FOR THE MOST PART,
1641
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,200
THAT ONE COULD SAY
1642
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,400
THAT THEY WERE ESSENTIALLY
TRIVIAL AND BE RIGHT.
1643
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,300
[ LAUGHS ]
1644
01:13:29,300 --> 01:13:30,300
IN "LOVE AND DEATH,"
1645
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,300
YOU COULD SEE
THE INFLUENCE OF BOB HOPE,
1646
01:13:32,300 --> 01:13:34,300
BECAUSE YOU SEE
PHYSICAL COWARDICE
1647
01:13:34,300 --> 01:13:35,300
IN THE TEETH OF WARFARE.
1648
01:13:35,300 --> 01:13:36,800
THAT'S A STRONG SUIT
OF BOB HOPE'S,
1649
01:13:37,300 --> 01:13:38,300
AND WOODY IS ALL OVER THAT
1650
01:13:38,300 --> 01:13:39,300
IN "LOVE AND DEATH."
1651
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:41,800
IF YOU SO MUCH AS
COME NEAR THE COUNTESS,
1652
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:44,300
I'LL SEE THAT YOU NEVER SEE
THE LIGHT OF DAY AGAIN.
1653
01:13:44,300 --> 01:13:47,300
IF A MAN SAID THAT TO ME,
I'D BREAK HIS NECK.
1654
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:49,000
I AM A MAN.
1655
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,800
WELL, I MEAN
A MUCH SHORTER MAN.
1656
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:52,800
[ CHUCKLES ]
1657
01:13:53,300 --> 01:13:53,800
Allen: BOB HOPE
1658
01:13:54,300 --> 01:13:58,000
WAS A BIG INFLUENCE ON ME.
1659
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,100
I CAN SEE IT
ALL OVER ME IN FILMS.
1660
01:14:00,100 --> 01:14:03,600
THIS MAN IS MONSIEUR BEAUCAIRE,
A COMMON BARBER.
1661
01:14:04,100 --> 01:14:06,100
ARE YOU GOING TO
ACCEPT THAT?
1662
01:14:06,100 --> 01:14:08,100
WELL, A MAN'S ENTITLED
TO AN OPINION.
1663
01:14:08,100 --> 01:14:10,100
SLAP HIM BACK.
1664
01:14:11,300 --> 01:14:13,300
YOU'RE LUCKY I
HAVEN'T GOT A SWORD.
1665
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,800
HMM.
1666
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:16,800
YOU KEEP OUT OF THIS.
1667
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,300
Allen: I WOULD GET
INTO HIS SUIT,
1668
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:19,300
SO TO SPEAK.
1669
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:21,500
BUT WHEN I DO HIM
AND HE DOES HIM,
1670
01:14:21,500 --> 01:14:23,500
THERE IS THE WORLD
OF DIFFERENCE.
1671
01:14:23,500 --> 01:14:26,800
I DO, YOU KNOW,
A CLUMSY VERSION.
1672
01:14:27,300 --> 01:14:28,800
HOW DO YOU LIKE IT?
1673
01:14:29,300 --> 01:14:30,000
[ SIGHS ]
1674
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:31,000
IT'S ALL RIGHT.
1675
01:14:31,500 --> 01:14:34,100
I'D PREFER SOMETHING SEXY,
BUT...
1676
01:14:34,100 --> 01:14:35,900
WOULD YOU LIKE SOME WINE,
1677
01:14:35,900 --> 01:14:38,900
SOMETHING TO PUT YOU
IN THE MOOD?
1678
01:14:38,900 --> 01:14:43,400
OH, I'VE BEEN IN THE MOOD
SINCE THE LATE 1700s.
1679
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:45,200
Allen: IT WAS
A TOUGH MOVIE TO MAKE.
1680
01:14:45,700 --> 01:14:47,200
I MEAN, IT WAS COLD
AND LABORIOUS
1681
01:14:47,700 --> 01:14:51,900
AND, YOU KNOW,
VERY HARD WORK, I FOUND,
1682
01:14:51,900 --> 01:14:53,300
NOT EASY,
BUT FUN TO WRITE.
1683
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,300
BUT IF THERE IS NO GOD, WELL,
THEN LIFE HAS NO MEANING.
1684
01:14:56,300 --> 01:14:58,800
WHY GO ON LIVING?
WHY NOT JUST COMMIT SUICIDE?
1685
01:14:59,300 --> 01:15:00,500
WELL, LET'S NOT
GET HYSTERICAL.
1686
01:15:00,500 --> 01:15:01,500
I COULD BE WRONG.
1687
01:15:01,500 --> 01:15:03,000
I'D HATE TO
BLOW MY BRAINS OUT
1688
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,000
AND THEN READ IN THE PAPERS
THEY FOUND SOMETHING.
1689
01:15:05,500 --> 01:15:10,200
IT'S REALLY EXCITING
TO SEE THE DEVELOPMENT
1690
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,800
OF WOODY ALLEN FROM
WRITING STAND UP,
1691
01:15:13,300 --> 01:15:14,300
MONOLOGUE, TALK SHOW,
1692
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:17,300
"BANANAS," "SLEEPER,"
TO THE FILMMAKER.
1693
01:15:17,300 --> 01:15:21,300
I'M NOT SURE I QUICKLY PERCEIVED
THE IMPORTANCE OF "ANNIE HALL"
1694
01:15:21,300 --> 01:15:23,800
IN TERMS OF BEING
A DEPARTURE FROM
1695
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,300
STUFF HE'D DONE BEFORE,
BUT I KNEW THAT WE WERE
1696
01:15:26,300 --> 01:15:28,300
ON TO SOMETHING SPECIAL
SEEING THAT FILM.
1697
01:15:28,300 --> 01:15:30,800
YEAH, EVERYBODY DID.
1698
01:15:31,300 --> 01:15:32,800
David: I REMEMBER WHEN
"ANNIE HALL" CAME OUT,
1699
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:36,300
THERE WAS THIS KIND OF
BUZZ IN NEW YORK
1700
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:37,800
THAT WAS ELECTRIFYING.
1701
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:41,300
I HADN'T SEEN THE MOVIE,
BUT IT ALMOST FRIGHTENED ME,
1702
01:15:41,300 --> 01:15:42,800
THE WAY MY UNCLE TOLD ME,
1703
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:44,800
"DON'T GO SEE
'HOUSE OF WAX' IN 3D."
1704
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:46,800
YOU KNOW,
IT WAS LIKE, "WHAT?"
1705
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:48,800
YOU KNOW,
IT WAS LIKE SOME KIND OF
1706
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,300
EARTH-CHANGING EVENT
WAS TAKING PLACE.
1707
01:15:51,300 --> 01:15:53,800
Allen: UNTIL "ANNIE HALL,"
1708
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:58,800
I HAD BEEN INTERESTED ONLY IN
MAKING THE AUDIENCE LAUGH.
1709
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:00,700
AND THERE WERE MANY
PEOPLE AROUND ME
1710
01:16:00,700 --> 01:16:02,200
THAT SAID,
"WHY DO YOU WANT TO DO
1711
01:16:02,700 --> 01:16:04,200
A PICTURE LIKE
'ANNIE HALL' FOR?
1712
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,200
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN
MAKE AUDIENCES LAUGH
1713
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:09,200
AND BE FUNNY,
AND MY FRIENDS AND I,
1714
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:12,200
WE ALL MUCH WOULD RATHER SEE
A 'BANANAS'
1715
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:13,700
OR 'LOVE AND DEATH.'"
1716
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,900
AND I FELT, "I'LL SACRIFICE
1717
01:16:16,900 --> 01:16:19,300
SOME OF THE LAUGHS
1718
01:16:19,300 --> 01:16:22,000
FOR A STORY
1719
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,500
ABOUT HUMAN BEINGS,
AND THEY WILL
1720
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:26,600
GET INVOLVED IN THE STORY
1721
01:16:27,100 --> 01:16:29,900
IN A WAY THAT
THEY HAD NOT EVER
1722
01:16:29,900 --> 01:16:32,200
BEEN INVOLVED BEFORE,
1723
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:33,100
AND IT WOULD BE RICHER
1724
01:16:33,100 --> 01:16:35,600
AND IT WOULD BE A BETTER
EXPERIENCE FOR THEM
1725
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,100
AND FUN FOR ME TO TRY,
AND THE WORST THAT CAN HAPPEN
1726
01:16:38,100 --> 01:16:39,500
IS I'LL MAKE A FOOL OF MYSELF."
1727
01:16:39,500 --> 01:16:40,500
YEAH, 'CAUSE, YOU KNOW,
1728
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:42,500
I'M OBSESSED WITH DEATH,
I THINK.
1729
01:16:42,500 --> 01:16:44,000
IT'S A BIG SUBJECT WITH ME,
YEAH.
1730
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,000
I HAVE A VERY PESSIMISTIC
VIEW OF LIFE.
1731
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,000
YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS ABOUT ME
IF WE'RE GONNA GO OUT.
1732
01:16:48,500 --> 01:16:50,000
YOU KNOW, I JUST FEEL THAT
LIFE IS DIVIDED UP
1733
01:16:50,500 --> 01:16:51,500
INTO THE HORRIBLE
AND THE MISERABLE.
1734
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:53,500
THOSE ARE THE TWO CATEGORIES,
YOU KNOW?
1735
01:16:53,500 --> 01:16:56,000
THE HORRIBLE
WOULD BE LIKE, UM,
1736
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:57,500
I DON'T KNOW,
TERMINAL CASES, YOU KNOW,
1737
01:16:57,500 --> 01:16:59,000
AND BLIND PEOPLE,
CRIPPLES.
1738
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:00,500
I DON'T KNOW HOW
THEY GET THROUGH LIFE.
1739
01:17:00,500 --> 01:17:02,000
IT'S AMAZING TO ME,
YOU KNOW,
1740
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,000
AND THE MISERABLE IS
EVERYONE ELSE, THAT'S --
1741
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,000
SO WHEN YOU GO THROUGH LIFE,
YOU SHOULD BE THANKFUL
1742
01:17:06,500 --> 01:17:08,000
THAT YOU'RE MISERABLE,
BECAUSE THAT'S --
1743
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:09,500
YOU'RE VERY LUCKY
TO BE MISERABLE.
1744
01:17:09,500 --> 01:17:11,500
IT WAS THE FIRST TIME
THAT I'D READ
1745
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,000
ANYTHING OF WOODY'S
THAT WAS SO
1746
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:15,300
PERSONALLY TOUCHING.
1747
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:17,300
IT WAS A LOVE STORY,
1748
01:17:17,300 --> 01:17:19,400
AND IT WAS A SHOCK TO READ IT,
1749
01:17:19,900 --> 01:17:20,900
AND I JUST THOUGHT,
1750
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:22,600
"THIS IS WONDERFUL."
1751
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,100
AND IT WAS --
IT WAS AN EXPRESSION
1752
01:17:25,100 --> 01:17:28,600
OF SUCH TREMENDOUS GROWTH
FOR WOODY, THAT SCRIPT.
1753
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:31,500
U.A. HAD ALWAYS PRIDED ITSELF
ON BEING VERY DIRECTOR-
1754
01:17:31,500 --> 01:17:34,000
AND WRITER-FRIENDLY
RATHER THAN STAR-FRIENDLY.
1755
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,500
ARTHUR KRIM WAS
COSIMO DE' MEDICI.
1756
01:17:36,500 --> 01:17:40,000
HE HAD KNIGHTED WOODY
AS A KNIGHT OF THE CHURCH,
1757
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,900
AND ARTHUR KRIM WOULD
SIT DOWN AT A TABLE,
1758
01:17:42,900 --> 01:17:46,400
LOOK YOU IN THE EYE,
DECIDE HOW CRAZY YOU WERE.
1759
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:49,900
HE WOULD ASK YOU HOW MUCH MONEY
YOU NEEDED TO MAKE THE MOVIE.
1760
01:17:49,900 --> 01:17:51,900
YOU WOULD TELL HIM,
HE WOULD GIVE YOU
1761
01:17:51,900 --> 01:17:54,000
A LITTLE BIT LESS,
BECAUSE IT --
1762
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,000
YOU KNOW,
IT BUILDS CHARACTER.
1763
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:59,500
THEY WATCHED THE BUDGETS
VERY CAREFULLY
1764
01:17:59,500 --> 01:18:02,500
AND THEY WERE VERY SUPPORTIVE
AND THEY HAD AN AMAZING RUN,
1765
01:18:02,500 --> 01:18:04,000
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THAT.
1766
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,500
THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOMETHING
THAT OCCURRED TO WOODY
1767
01:18:06,500 --> 01:18:08,000
WHILE WE WERE MAKING THAT FILM,
1768
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,500
THAT, "NOW I SHOULD
START MAKING FILMS
1769
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,500
A LITTLE MORE MATURE,
THAT AREN'T JUST GAGS
1770
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,500
AND VIGNETTES THROWN TOGETHER.
1771
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,200
LET'S START MAKING THEM,
YOU KNOW,
1772
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:19,700
A LITTLE MORE COHESIVE."
1773
01:18:19,700 --> 01:18:21,200
AND SO I THINK THERE WAS
1774
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,700
A CONSCIOUS EFFORT TO PUT SOME
1775
01:18:23,700 --> 01:18:27,700
REAL FILMMAKERS TOGETHER
TO HELP ACHIEVE THIS.
1776
01:18:27,700 --> 01:18:29,200
AT THAT TIME,
1777
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:33,200
THE MOST CELEBRATED NEW YORK
CAMERAMAN WAS GORDON WILLIS.
1778
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,000
AND GORDY,
WHO THEY USED TO CALL
1779
01:18:35,500 --> 01:18:37,000
"THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS" --
1780
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:40,800
ALWAYS WENT FOR
GREAT DARKNESS --
1781
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,300
HE DID "THE GODFATHER."
1782
01:18:43,300 --> 01:18:45,300
EVERYONE HAD ALWAYS
TALKED ABOUT HIM
1783
01:18:45,300 --> 01:18:46,800
AS SUCH A GREAT CINEMATOGRAPHER.
1784
01:18:47,300 --> 01:18:50,300
Lauder: PUTTING GORDON WILLIS
AND WOODY TOGETHER WAS LIKE
1785
01:18:50,300 --> 01:18:53,600
A VERY ODD PAIRING BECAUSE,
YOU KNOW, WOODY WAS THIS SORT OF
1786
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,100
LOOSEY-GOOSEY COMEDIAN
AND GORDON WAS THIS
1787
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,900
VERY STRICT,
DISCIPLINED PHOTOGRAPHER
1788
01:18:58,900 --> 01:19:01,400
WHO HAD A CONTROVERSIAL
REPUTATION
1789
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:04,400
FOR CRANKINESS,
AND IT JUST LOOKED LIKE,
1790
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,400
YOU KNOW,
"THIS WILL NEVER WORK."
1791
01:19:06,900 --> 01:19:09,200
I PROBABLY DIDN'T HAVE
A GOOD REPUTATION
1792
01:19:09,700 --> 01:19:11,700
AS MR. SMILE,
YOU KNOW, SO HE THOUGHT,
1793
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,700
"GEE, I'M GETTING INVOLVED
WITH A MONSTER HERE."
1794
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,400
WE HIT IT OFF RIGHT AWAY.
1795
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:18,400
WE CHATTED
1796
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,900
AND HE WAS VERY SMART
AND I LIKED HIM VERY MUCH.
1797
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:23,900
YOU KNOW, IT WAS CLEAR
1798
01:19:23,900 --> 01:19:28,300
RIGHT AWAY THAT I HAD
A LOT TO LEARN FROM HIM
1799
01:19:28,300 --> 01:19:29,800
AND THAT HE WAS
1800
01:19:30,300 --> 01:19:33,500
A GREAT CINEMATOGRAPHER
IN EVERY WAY.
1801
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,500
Keaton: WOODY DID
CHOOSE GORDON WILLIS
1802
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:38,200
TO BE THE CINEMATOGRAPHER,
1803
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,200
AND FOR A COMEDY,
THAT WAS UNHEARD OF.
1804
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,600
YOU DIDN'T HAVE
THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS
1805
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,100
BE THE CINEMATOGRAPHER
FOR A COMEDY.
1806
01:19:45,100 --> 01:19:46,600
NOBODY COULD BELIEVE IT,
1807
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,100
AND SO IT WAS
A TERRIFYING PROSPECT,
1808
01:19:49,100 --> 01:19:54,000
BUT WOODY TOOK IT ON,
AND HE MADE A GREAT CHOICE.
1809
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,500
THE FIRST SHOT I EVER DID WITH
1810
01:19:56,500 --> 01:19:59,000
GORDON WILLIS IN MY LIFE,
THE FIRST SCENE
1811
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:00,500
THAT WE EVER SHOT
IN "ANNIE HALL,"
1812
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:02,200
WAS THE LOBSTER SCENE.
1813
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:03,600
HOLD IT, THAT ONE. THERE.
YOU KNOW WHAT,
1814
01:20:04,100 --> 01:20:05,600
MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST
CALL THE POLICE,
1815
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:06,600
DIAL 911.
IT'S THE LOBSTER SQUAD.
1816
01:20:07,100 --> 01:20:09,100
COME ON, ALVY, THEY'RE ONLY
BABY ONES, FOR GOD SAKES.
1817
01:20:09,100 --> 01:20:11,100
IF THEY'RE ONLY BABIES,
THEN YOU PICK THEM UP.
1818
01:20:11,100 --> 01:20:12,600
OH, ALL RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.
1819
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:14,100
HERE. HERE YOU GO.
1820
01:20:14,100 --> 01:20:16,100
DON'T GIVE IT TO ME.
DON'T! LOOK! ONE --
1821
01:20:16,100 --> 01:20:18,100
ONE CRAWLED BEHIND
THE REFRIGERATOR.
1822
01:20:18,100 --> 01:20:20,100
IT WILL TURN UP IN
OUR BED AT NIGHT.
1823
01:20:20,100 --> 01:20:22,100
WILL YOU GET OUT OF HERE
WITH THAT THING?
1824
01:20:22,100 --> 01:20:24,600
[ LAUGHS ]
JESUS!
1825
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:26,600
TALK TO THEM.
YOU SPEAK SHELLFISH.
1826
01:20:27,100 --> 01:20:29,600
Willis: ONE OF THE NICE THINGS
ABOUT WORKING WITH WOODY
1827
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,500
OVER THE TIME THAT WE
WORKED TOGETHER WAS IT --
1828
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,500
MORE OR LESS LIKE WORKING WITH
YOUR HANDS IN YOUR POCKETS.
1829
01:20:34,500 --> 01:20:35,500
IT'S VERY EASY, PLEASANT.
1830
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,700
GORDIE WAS THE ONE
WHO SAID TO ME,
1831
01:20:38,700 --> 01:20:42,200
"WHEN WE DO THE SPLIT SCREEN
WITH THE SHRINK" --
1832
01:20:42,700 --> 01:20:45,400
I'M WITH ONE SHRINK
AND SHE'S WITH ANOTHER ONE --
1833
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:47,400
HE SAID, "DON'T DO
A SPLIT SCREEN.
1834
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,300
BUILD IT. BUILD A SET WITH A --
WITH A DIVIDER IN THE MIDDLE,
1835
01:20:50,300 --> 01:20:51,300
SO YOU'RE BOTH LIVE.
1836
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:54,300
IT'LL LOOK LIKE A SPLIT SCREEN,
BUT IT WON'T BE."
1837
01:20:54,300 --> 01:20:56,300
Willis: THAT WAS
A REVELATION FOR HIM
1838
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:58,300
AT THAT POINT
'CAUSE IT MEANT
1839
01:20:58,300 --> 01:21:00,800
BOTH ACTORS COULD
DO THE SCENE, YOU KNOW,
1840
01:21:01,300 --> 01:21:03,300
WITHOUT BEING
INTERRUPTED WITH DOING
1841
01:21:03,300 --> 01:21:05,800
HALF THE SCENE
AND THEN HALF A SCENE
1842
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:08,300
AND PUTTING IT
TOGETHER OPTICALLY.
1843
01:21:08,300 --> 01:21:10,200
AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID.
1844
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:11,500
HOW OFTEN DO YOU
SLEEP TOGETHER?
1845
01:21:11,500 --> 01:21:12,500
Woman: DO YOU
HAVE SEX OFTEN?
1846
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,500
HARDLY EVER.
MAYBE THREE TIMES A WEEK.
1847
01:21:15,500 --> 01:21:18,000
CONSTANTLY.
I'D SAY THREE TIMES A WEEK.
1848
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,200
IT WAS A SOMEWHAT
PRECOCIOUS FILM, I THINK,
1849
01:21:21,700 --> 01:21:23,200
BECAUSE IT WAS --
AS I RECALL,
1850
01:21:23,700 --> 01:21:26,200
THERE WAS A ROUGH CUT
THAT WAS WELL OVER TWO HOURS.
1851
01:21:26,700 --> 01:21:28,900
I THOUGHT OF IT ONLY AS --
REALLY AS A COMEDY,
1852
01:21:28,900 --> 01:21:30,900
YOU KNOW,
AND I THOUGHT WHEN I WAS
1853
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:33,900
PUTTING IT TOGETHER ORIGINALLY
THAT IT WOULD BE FUN
1854
01:21:33,900 --> 01:21:36,400
FOR PEOPLE TO SEE
WHAT WENT ON IN MY MIND.
1855
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,400
THAT WAS GOING TO
BE THE MOVIE.
1856
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,900
YOU WERE GOING TO SEE
WHAT GOES ON IN HIS MIND,
1857
01:21:40,900 --> 01:21:42,900
GOING FROM BIT TO BIT
WITHOUT MUCH PLOT.
1858
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,100
IT BECAME APPARENT
IN THE EDITING ROOM
1859
01:21:46,100 --> 01:21:49,600
THAT THE PICTURE WAS
ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE.
1860
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:52,100
THE RELATIONSHIP WAS
SO STRONG THAT NOBODY
1861
01:21:52,100 --> 01:21:54,100
WANTED TO SEE
WHAT WENT ON IN MY MIND.
1862
01:21:54,100 --> 01:21:57,100
THEY WANTED TO GET BACK TO
THIS STORY OF THE TWO PEOPLE.
1863
01:21:57,100 --> 01:21:59,000
HI. HI.
1864
01:21:59,500 --> 01:22:01,200
OH, HI. HI.
1865
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:02,700
[ CHUCKLES ]
1866
01:22:04,500 --> 01:22:06,000
WELL,
1867
01:22:06,500 --> 01:22:07,000
BYE.
1868
01:22:07,500 --> 01:22:10,500
[ CHUCKLES ]
1869
01:22:10,500 --> 01:22:11,800
YOU PLAY VERY WELL.
1870
01:22:12,300 --> 01:22:14,600
OH, YEAH?
SO DO YOU.
1871
01:22:15,100 --> 01:22:17,600
OH, GOD. WHAT A DUMB
THING TO SAY, RIGHT?
1872
01:22:18,100 --> 01:22:19,600
I MEAN, YOU SAID,
"YOU PLAY WELL,"
1873
01:22:20,100 --> 01:22:22,600
THEN RIGHT AWAY,
I HAVE TO SAY, "YOU PLAY WELL."
1874
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:25,100
OH. OH, GOD, ANNIE.
1875
01:22:25,100 --> 01:22:27,100
WELL...OH, WELL.
1876
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:28,100
[ CHUCKLES ]
1877
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:31,600
LA-DI-DAH, LA-DI-DAH,
LA-LA. YEAH.
1878
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:34,700
KEATON WAS SO COMPELLING,
YOU KNOW,
1879
01:22:34,700 --> 01:22:36,700
THAT WHEN SHE
WASN'T ON-SCREEN
1880
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,700
OR THE STORY WASN'T
ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP,
1881
01:22:39,700 --> 01:22:42,700
EVEN IF SHE WAS ON-SCREEN,
YOU DIDN'T CARE.
1882
01:22:42,700 --> 01:22:44,200
THE WHOLE WORLD FELL IN LOVE
1883
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:46,200
WITH DIANE KEATON,
BUT WOODY ALLEN FELL
1884
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,000
IN LOVE WITH HER FIRST,
AND HE MADE THAT CONTAGIOUS.
1885
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:49,000
HEY, LISTEN. LISTEN.
1886
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:50,000
WHAT?
GIVE ME A KISS.
1887
01:22:50,500 --> 01:22:52,000
REALLY?
YEAH. WHY NOT? BECAUSE WE'RE JUST
1888
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:53,000
GOING TO GO HOME LATER,
RIGHT?
1889
01:22:53,500 --> 01:22:55,000
AND THERE'S GOING TO BE
ALL THAT TENSION,
1890
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:56,000
YOU KNOW,
WE NEVER KISSED BEFORE
1891
01:22:56,500 --> 01:22:58,000
AND I'LL NEVER KNOW WHEN
TO MAKE THE RIGHT MOVE
1892
01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:59,500
OR ANYTHING,
SO WE'LL KISS NOW,
1893
01:22:59,500 --> 01:23:01,000
WE'LL GET IT OVER WITH,
THEN WE'LL GO EAT, OKAY?
1894
01:23:01,500 --> 01:23:03,000
OH. ALL RIGHT.
AND WE'LL DIGEST OUR FOOD BETTER.
1895
01:23:03,500 --> 01:23:06,000
OKAY.
1896
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:09,000
OKAY? SO NOW WE CAN DIGEST
OUR FOOD, OKAY? YEAH.
1897
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:12,500
HE WAS JUST UNFATHOMABLE,
I THINK, MAINLY TO MY PARENTS
1898
01:23:12,500 --> 01:23:14,500
AND PARTICULARLY
MY GRANDMOTHER.
1899
01:23:14,500 --> 01:23:17,500
YOU'RE WHAT GRAMMY HALL
WOULD CALL A REAL JEW.
1900
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:19,700
[ CLEARS THROAT ]
1901
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:20,700
THANK YOU.
1902
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:22,700
Allen: THERE IS A GRAMMY HALL.
1903
01:23:22,700 --> 01:23:25,100
THAT WAS --
THAT'S KEATON'S GRANDMOTHER,
1904
01:23:25,100 --> 01:23:26,100
AS A MATTER OF FACT,
1905
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:30,800
JUST AN ELDERLY LADY WHO
LIVES IN CALIFORNIA.
1906
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,300
Keaton: SHE WOULD CALL HIM
THIS ODD JEW,
1907
01:23:33,300 --> 01:23:35,300
BUT SHE WAS A TOTAL RACIST,
AND SO
1908
01:23:35,300 --> 01:23:38,300
I WASN'T REALLY
VERY PROUD OF HER
1909
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:40,900
WITH REGARD TO THAT AND HER
ATTITUDE ABOUT WOODY,
1910
01:23:40,900 --> 01:23:42,900
AND, YOU KNOW,
SHE'D SAY THINGS LIKE,
1911
01:23:42,900 --> 01:23:44,900
"OH, YEAH,
HE'S JUST LIKE A JEW."
1912
01:23:44,900 --> 01:23:47,400
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S --
THAT'S WHY HE CAPTURED
1913
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:48,400
THE ESSENCE OF MY FAMILY.
1914
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:51,400
YEAH, NOT --
NOT VERY PRETTY.
1915
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:53,800
"ANNIE HALL" IS THE FILM WHERE
1916
01:23:54,300 --> 01:23:59,300
HE MAKES THE DECISION NOT
TO LEAD ALWAYS WITH JOKES,
1917
01:23:59,300 --> 01:24:02,300
THOUGH IT'S PACKED,
PACKED WITH GREAT JOKES.
1918
01:24:02,300 --> 01:24:04,800
YOU'RE HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH
YOUR COLLEGE PROFESSOR,
1919
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:07,300
THAT JERK THAT TEACHES THAT
INCREDIBLE CRAP COURSE,
1920
01:24:07,300 --> 01:24:08,800
CONTEMPORARY CRISIS
IN WESTERN MAN.
1921
01:24:09,300 --> 01:24:10,800
EXISTENTIAL MOTIFS
IN RUSSIAN LITERATURE.
1922
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:12,300
YOU'RE REALLY CLOSE.
1923
01:24:12,300 --> 01:24:14,300
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?
IT'S ALL MENTAL MASTURBATION.
1924
01:24:14,300 --> 01:24:15,800
OH, WELL, NOW WE'RE
FINALLY GETTING
1925
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:17,300
TO A SUBJECT
YOU KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT.
1926
01:24:17,300 --> 01:24:18,800
HEY, DON'T KNOCK
MASTURBATION.
1927
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:19,800
IT'S SEX WITH
SOMEONE I LOVE.
1928
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:20,800
McGrath: IT'S THE FIRST FILM
1929
01:24:21,300 --> 01:24:25,000
WHERE IT'S TRULY GROUNDED
IN ADULT FEELING.
1930
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,000
THIS IS THE ONE
WHERE HE THINKS,
1931
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:29,500
"I'M GOING TO GO WITH
FEELING FIRST
1932
01:24:29,500 --> 01:24:32,000
AND PEOPLE FIRST,
AND THE JOKES HAVE TO
1933
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:33,600
COME OUT OF THOSE PEOPLE."
1934
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,000
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT FEELS
LIKE A LANDMARK CHANGE.
1935
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:37,900
LET'S FACE IT.
1936
01:24:37,900 --> 01:24:41,400
YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK OUR
RELATIONSHIP IS WORKING.
1937
01:24:41,900 --> 01:24:44,400
I KNOW. A RELATIONSHIP,
I THINK, IS LIKE A SHARK.
1938
01:24:44,900 --> 01:24:47,900
YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO CONSTANTLY
MOVE FORWARD OR IT DIES.
1939
01:24:47,900 --> 01:24:52,400
AND I THINK WHAT WE'VE GOT ON
OUR HANDS IS A DEAD SHARK.
1940
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:56,000
THE STORY HE TELLS IS THE STORY
OF EVERYBODY WHO FALLS IN LOVE
1941
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,800
AND THEN FALLS OUT OF LOVE
AND GOES ON,
1942
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:02,800
AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT
SO UNIVERSAL
1943
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:05,300
AND SO MEANINGFUL
TO SO MANY PEOPLE.
1944
01:25:05,300 --> 01:25:09,400
THE BUILD-UP WAS SUCH THAT --
THAT IT FELT LIKE
1945
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:13,400
A BOMB WAS ABOUT TO GO OFF IN
NEW YORK THAT WAS GOING TO
1946
01:25:13,900 --> 01:25:16,900
CHANGE THE WAY COMEDIES
WERE MADE FOREVER,
1947
01:25:16,900 --> 01:25:19,900
AND I GUESS PERHAPS
IN A WAY IT DID.
1948
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:23,400
IT WAS -- IT WAS
THAT KIND OF MOVIE.
1949
01:25:23,900 --> 01:25:25,600
WE SPEAK OF "ANNIE HALL"
AS A GAME CHANGER.
1950
01:25:26,100 --> 01:25:28,100
IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN
A GAME CHANGER FOR WOODY ALLEN,
1951
01:25:28,100 --> 01:25:30,100
BECAUSE HE SEEMS TO GO
WHERE WANTS TO GO,
1952
01:25:30,100 --> 01:25:32,100
BUT IT WAS A GAME CHANGER
FOR THE INDUSTRY.
1953
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:35,600
I THINK COMEDY ITSELF
BEGAN TO BE REEVALUATED.
1954
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:39,500
DID WE GET A SENSE THAT THIS WAS
SOME SORT OF CULTURAL AVALANCHE?
1955
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:41,000
NO. NO.
1956
01:25:41,500 --> 01:25:43,700
THERE ARE SUBCULTURES
THAT EXIST,
1957
01:25:43,700 --> 01:25:45,700
AND SOMETIMES YOU HIT ONTO
1958
01:25:45,700 --> 01:25:47,200
ONE OF THEM
AND YOU REALIZE
1959
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:49,100
THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THERE
THAT WASN'T THERE,
1960
01:25:49,100 --> 01:25:50,600
AND I GUESS THERE
WAS AN AUDIENCE
1961
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:53,600
READY FOR THIS MOVIE.
1962
01:25:54,100 --> 01:25:55,300
HEY, HOW MUCH IS THIS STUFF,
INCIDENTALLY?
1963
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:58,300
THAT'S ABOUT
$2,000 AN OUNCE.
1964
01:25:58,300 --> 01:26:01,800
GOD.
REALLY? AND WHAT IS THE KICK OF IT?
1965
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:03,300
WHICH I NEVER --
1966
01:26:03,300 --> 01:26:06,300
[ SNEEZES ]
1967
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,200
Lauder: I DIDN'T GO
TO THE EVENT BECAUSE
1968
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:16,700
IN THE OFFICE POOLS,
1969
01:26:16,700 --> 01:26:19,200
"STAR WARS" WAS
THE HANDS-DOWN WINNER.
1970
01:26:19,700 --> 01:26:22,400
WOODY SAID, "I'M NOT GOING TO
GO OUT TO THE AWARDS
1971
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:23,900
BECAUSE I HAVE THE BAND.
1972
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:26,100
I HAVE OUR JAZZ BAND
ON MONDAY NIGHTS."
1973
01:26:26,100 --> 01:26:28,100
AND I THOUGHT, "OKAY,
THAT'S A KIND OF GENIUS.
1974
01:26:28,100 --> 01:26:30,100
HE'S REALLY MAKING
A VERY SIGNIFICANT STATEMENT
1975
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,100
THAT'S GOING TO
CARRY HIM A LONG WAY."
1976
01:26:33,100 --> 01:26:34,900
I SAID, "BUT I DON'T
HAVE TO MAKE A STATEMENT.
1977
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:36,100
I WANT TO GO."
1978
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:39,600
MUCH TO OUR SURPRISE,
WE PICKED UP FOUR AWARDS,
1979
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:41,400
WHICH WAS ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY,
1980
01:26:41,900 --> 01:26:44,400
BEST DIRECTOR FOR WOODY,
BEST FILM,
1981
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:45,900
AND BEST ACTRESS FOR DIANE.
1982
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,500
Allen: THE NEXT MORNING,
I GOT UP, YOU KNOW,
1983
01:26:48,500 --> 01:26:50,300
I GOT THE NEW YORK TIMES
DELIVERED TO MY APARTMENT,
1984
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,500
AND I NOTICED ON
THE FRONT PAGE ON THE BOTTOM,
1985
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:57,000
IT SAID THAT "'ANNIE HALL'
WINS FOUR ACADEMY AWARDS,"
1986
01:26:57,500 --> 01:26:59,000
SO I GO, "OH, THAT'S GREAT."
1987
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:03,500
Cavett: SOMEBODY AT
THE JACK ROLLINS OFFICE HEARD
1988
01:27:03,500 --> 01:27:06,500
JACK SAY TO WOODY,
"WOODY, ARE YOU ADAMANT
1989
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:09,500
ABOUT THIS IDEA
THAT YOU DON'T WANT
1990
01:27:09,500 --> 01:27:13,500
'ACADEMY AWARD-WINNING FILM,'
YOU DON'T WANT THAT PHRASE
1991
01:27:13,500 --> 01:27:17,500
IN THE ADS ANYWHERE WITHIN
A HUNDRED MILES OF NEW YORK?"
1992
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,100
AND HE SAID,
"THAT'S RIGHT."
1993
01:27:20,100 --> 01:27:22,600
AND JACK SAID, "COULD WE
MAKE IT 50, WOODY?"
1994
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:24,100
[ LAUGHS ]
1995
01:27:24,100 --> 01:27:27,000
I THINK WHAT YOU GET
IN AWARDS IS FAVORITISM.
1996
01:27:27,500 --> 01:27:29,000
I MEAN, PEOPLE CAN SAY,
1997
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:32,000
"OH, MY FAVORITE MOVIE
WAS 'ANNIE HALL,'"
1998
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:35,000
BUT THE IMPLICATION IS THAT
IT'S THE BEST MOVIE,
1999
01:27:35,500 --> 01:27:37,500
AND I DON'T THINK
THAT'S POSSIBLE.
2000
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:39,500
I DON'T THINK YOU CAN
MAKE THAT JUDGMENT.
2001
01:27:39,500 --> 01:27:42,500
EXCEPT FOR TRACK,
TRACK AND FIELD, YOU KNOW,
2002
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:46,000
WHERE ONE GUY RUNS
AND YOU SEE THAT HE WINS,
2003
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:47,000
THEN IT'S OKAY.
2004
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,500
I WON THOSE WHEN
I WAS YOUNGER,
2005
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:53,600
AND THOSE WERE NICE,
'CAUSE I KNEW I DESERVED THEM.
2006
01:27:54,100 --> 01:27:57,300
I WOULD LIKE TO,
FOR INSTANCE, IN FILMS,
2007
01:27:57,800 --> 01:27:59,300
DO MORE SERIOUS FILMS.
2008
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:00,800
I'D LIKE TO
2009
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,700
NOT ACT IN THEM
BUT TO WRITE AND DIRECT
2010
01:28:03,700 --> 01:28:04,700
MORE SERIOUS THINGS.
2011
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:07,900
HE HAD THEN THE OPPORTUNITY
TO EXPLORE THAT
2012
01:28:07,900 --> 01:28:10,400
IN HIMSELF AS AN ARTIST,
RIGHT? OKAY.
2013
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:12,900
HE TOOK IT.
OTHER PEOPLE WOULDN'T.
2014
01:28:12,900 --> 01:28:14,900
OTHER PEOPLE WOULD
STAY WITH WHAT
2015
01:28:14,900 --> 01:28:16,400
THEY FEEL IS SAFER,
IN A SENSE.
2016
01:28:16,900 --> 01:28:18,400
NOT THAT ANYTHING'S
REALLY SAFE,
2017
01:28:18,900 --> 01:28:20,900
BUT, I MEAN,
IT'S TERRITORY THEY FEEL THAT
2018
01:28:20,900 --> 01:28:21,900
THEY CAN EXCEL.
2019
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:23,900
BUT TO PUSH AND GO FURTHER,
2020
01:28:23,900 --> 01:28:26,400
THAT'S WHY HE HAD TO
DO "INTERIORS,"
2021
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:27,900
TO GET TO THAT POINT.
2022
01:28:27,900 --> 01:28:31,400
I FEEL I HAVE BEEN
A DEDICATED HUSBAND,
2023
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:35,400
A RESPONSIBLE FATHER,
AND I HAVEN'T REGRETTED ANYTHING
2024
01:28:35,900 --> 01:28:37,900
I'VE BEEN CALLED UPON TO DO.
2025
01:28:37,900 --> 01:28:43,400
NOW I FEEL I WANT TO BE
BY MYSELF FOR A WHILE.
2026
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:47,900
CONSEQUENTLY, I'VE DECIDED TO
MOVE OUT OF THE HOUSE,
2027
01:28:47,900 --> 01:28:51,900
BUT I FEEL IT'S SOMETHING
I HAVE TO TRY.
2028
01:28:51,900 --> 01:28:53,700
IT'S A SEPARATION,
2029
01:28:53,700 --> 01:28:55,700
AND I WANTED TO
LAY IT ON THE TABLE
2030
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:59,000
IN FRONT OF EVERYONE
SO THAT EVERYTHING IS OPEN
2031
01:28:59,500 --> 01:29:01,000
AND AS DIRECT AS POSSIBLE.
2032
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:03,500
Scorsese: AND HE HAD
A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP
2033
01:29:03,500 --> 01:29:04,500
WITH UNITED ARTISTS,
2034
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:05,700
WHICH, BY THE WAY,
2035
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:08,200
WAS THE HOME OF
INDEPENDENT FILMS.
2036
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:12,200
I WAS, YOU KNOW,
INDULGED BY THEM.
2037
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:15,200
THEY SAID, "WELL, YOU KNOW,
YOU'VE EARNED THE RIGHT
2038
01:29:15,700 --> 01:29:18,200
TO MAKE ANY FILM
YOU WANT TO MAKE, SO,
2039
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:23,700
YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE
A VERY SERIOUS DRAMA, GO AHEAD
2040
01:29:23,700 --> 01:29:25,200
AND MAKE ONE."
2041
01:29:25,700 --> 01:29:26,700
I TALKED WITH
YOUR DOCTOR.
2042
01:29:26,700 --> 01:29:28,200
HE FEELS YOU
CAN HANDLE THIS.
2043
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:30,200
YOU TALKED TO DR. LOBEL
ABOUT THIS BEHIND MY BACK?
2044
01:29:30,700 --> 01:29:32,700
NOT BEHIND YOUR BACK.
DISCREETLY.
2045
01:29:32,700 --> 01:29:35,700
YOU DISCUSSED THIS WITH
DR. LOBEL BEHIND MY BACK.
2046
01:29:35,700 --> 01:29:37,200
IT'S SO HUMILIATING.
2047
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,200
EVE, IT'S YOUR DOCTOR
AND MYSELF.
2048
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,200
NOW, HOW PRIVATE
CAN ONE BE?
2049
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:42,200
[ SIGHS ]
2050
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:43,200
AND HE ASSURED YOU
2051
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:45,200
THAT I CAN HANDLE IT,
IS THAT RIGHT?
2052
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:46,700
OH, HOW HUMILIATING!
2053
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:49,200
YOU'RE NOT HUMILIATED.
2054
01:29:49,700 --> 01:29:51,700
OH, I JUST WANT TO DIE.
2055
01:29:51,700 --> 01:29:53,200
OH, STOP THAT.
2056
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:54,200
[ SIGHS ]
2057
01:29:54,700 --> 01:29:55,700
I JUST HATE MY LIFE!
2058
01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:57,700
[ GLASS SHATTERS ]
2059
01:30:00,300 --> 01:30:03,300
[ INDISTINCT ARGUING ]
2060
01:30:03,300 --> 01:30:08,900
Lasser: BUT HIS DESIRE
ALWAYS HAD BEEN AND HAS BEEN
2061
01:30:08,900 --> 01:30:11,900
TO BE TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY.
2062
01:30:11,900 --> 01:30:16,800
AND THE DARK SIDE OF HIM IS
A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF HIM,
2063
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:18,800
IN HIS WORK AND IN HIM.
2064
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:21,800
AND IT'S HIS --
2065
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:23,800
IT'S A GREAT THING
AND IT'S A TORTURE.
2066
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:29,200
I PUT A HIGHER VALUE ON
THE TRAGIC MUSE
2067
01:30:29,700 --> 01:30:30,700
THAN THE COMIC MUSE.
2068
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:34,500
I'VE ALWAYS FELT THAT
TRAGIC WRITING,
2069
01:30:34,500 --> 01:30:36,000
TRAGIC THEATER,
2070
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:41,000
TRAGIC FILM CONFRONTS
REALITY HEAD-ON AND DOESN'T
2071
01:30:41,500 --> 01:30:43,700
SATIRIZE IT, TEASE IT,
KID IT, DEFLECT IT,
2072
01:30:43,700 --> 01:30:46,700
OPT OUT WITH SOME KIND OF
A GAG AT THE LAST MINUTE.
2073
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:49,400
IT'S HARDER FOR ME,
2074
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:52,900
I EMBARRASS MYSELF
MORE READILY,
2075
01:30:52,900 --> 01:30:57,400
BUT I GET MORE PLEASURE
OUT OF FAILING IN A PROJECT
2076
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:00,900
THAT I AM ENTHUSED OVER
THAN IN SUCCEEDING
2077
01:31:00,900 --> 01:31:03,300
IN A PROJECT THAT
I KNOW I CAN DO WELL.
2078
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:06,800
Maltin: AFTER TAKING
A LOT OF FLACK FOR "INTERIORS"
2079
01:31:07,300 --> 01:31:10,500
BEING SO HEAVY AND DRAMATIC,
2080
01:31:10,500 --> 01:31:12,000
HE RESPONDED,
AND SOME PEOPLE
2081
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:14,000
WOULD SAY REBOUNDED,
WITH HIS NEXT FILM.
2082
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:15,000
HAVING DONE "ANNIE HALL,"
2083
01:31:15,500 --> 01:31:16,500
WHICH HAD A PARTICULAR
KIND OF LOOK,
2084
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:20,800
WE THOUGHT, "OKAY, NOW,
HOW DO WE MAKE 'MANHATTAN'
2085
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:22,800
BE A LITTLE MORE
DISTINCTIVE VISUALLY?"
2086
01:31:23,300 --> 01:31:26,300
♪
2087
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:30,300
THE DECISION TO SHOOT
2088
01:31:30,300 --> 01:31:32,700
"MANHATTAN" IN
BLACK AND WHITE REALLY WAS
2089
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:35,400
WOODY'S IDEA,
BECAUSE I THINK BOTH OF US
2090
01:31:35,900 --> 01:31:38,900
PERCEIVE MANHATTAN AS LIKE
A BLACK AND WHITE CITY.
2091
01:31:38,900 --> 01:31:41,400
IT'S STONE AND CONCRETE
AND BLACKTOP.
2092
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:43,400
WOODY ALLEN UNDERSTOOD
SOMETHING ABOUT
2093
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:45,400
BLACK AND WHITE THAT
HOLLYWOOD HAD FORGOTTEN,
2094
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:47,400
WHICH IS THAT IT ADDS GLAMOUR,
AND SO ONE OF
2095
01:31:47,900 --> 01:31:49,600
THE CHARACTERISTICS
OF "MANHATTAN" IS THAT
2096
01:31:50,100 --> 01:31:51,600
IT CREATES A NOSTALGIA
FOR THE PRESENT.
2097
01:31:52,100 --> 01:31:53,800
HE LOVES NEW YORK SO MUCH.
2098
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:55,300
I MEAN, IT'S HIS CITY.
2099
01:31:55,300 --> 01:31:57,300
AND IN THIS FILM, WHICH IS
2100
01:31:57,300 --> 01:32:02,300
JUST SUCH A LOVE LETTER
TO NEW YORK, IT'S --
2101
01:32:02,300 --> 01:32:04,300
NOTHING'S DONE SO
EXTRAORDINARILY WELL
2102
01:32:04,300 --> 01:32:05,300
THAT'S SAYS NEW YORK.
2103
01:32:05,300 --> 01:32:07,500
IT'S CONSTANTLY ALIVE.
2104
01:32:07,500 --> 01:32:10,800
IT'S LIKE A CITY THAT'S
CONTINUALLY EVOLVING
2105
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:13,300
AND EXTRAORDINARILY CREATIVE.
2106
01:32:13,300 --> 01:32:18,300
AND THE RHYTHM OF THE CITY
FEEDS DIFFERENT SENSIBILITIES.
2107
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:21,000
I WANTED TO SHOW NEW YORK
2108
01:32:21,500 --> 01:32:24,100
IN A VERY BEAUTIFUL WAY,
THE WAY I SEE IT.
2109
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:26,100
I NEVER HAD ANY INTEREST
2110
01:32:26,100 --> 01:32:31,600
IN SHOWING IT EXCEPT THROUGH
MY ROSE-COLORED GLASSES,
2111
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:33,500
MY ROMANTICIZED VIEW OF IT.
2112
01:32:33,500 --> 01:32:36,000
IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS
I LOVE HIS WORK.
2113
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:38,500
BUT THEY ARE EXTREMELY
FOREIGN TO ME.
2114
01:32:38,500 --> 01:32:40,000
IT'S ANOTHER --
NOT ANOTHER WORLD,
2115
01:32:40,500 --> 01:32:41,500
ANOTHER PLANET.
2116
01:32:41,500 --> 01:32:42,500
THE NEW YORK I KNOW
IS REALLY --
2117
01:32:42,500 --> 01:32:45,100
YOU LOOK AT "MEAN STREETS,"
THAT'S MY --
2118
01:32:45,100 --> 01:32:46,100
WHERE I GREW UP,
2119
01:32:46,100 --> 01:32:48,500
AND "TAXI DRIVER"
IS MY STATE OF MIND.
2120
01:32:48,500 --> 01:32:51,200
MANHATTAN IS SO BEAUTIFUL,
SO YOU'RE SEEING --
2121
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:55,100
EACH SHOT BECAME -- YOU KNOW,
IT BECAME A PAINTING.
2122
01:32:55,100 --> 01:32:57,500
YEARS FROM NOW,
PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO
2123
01:32:57,500 --> 01:33:00,500
LOOK BACK AT MY FILMS,
AND THE ONLY REAL VALUE OF THEM
2124
01:33:00,500 --> 01:33:04,000
IS GOING TO BE
THE BACKGROUND SCENERY.
2125
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:07,900
Isaac: NEW YORK WAS HIS TOWN,
AND IT ALWAYS WOULD BE.
2126
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:11,600
♪
2127
01:33:16,700 --> 01:33:18,700
Allen: "MANHATTAN"
WE WANTED TO SHOOT
2128
01:33:18,700 --> 01:33:21,700
WIDE SCREEN JUST BECAUSE
IT WAS NOT
2129
01:33:21,700 --> 01:33:24,100
A WAR PICTURE
OR A BIG-SCOPE PICTURE.
2130
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:26,300
IT WAS AN INTIMATE LOVE STORY.
2131
01:33:26,900 --> 01:33:28,600
JUST BECAUSE OF THAT,
2132
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:30,600
WE THOUGHT IT
WOULD BE INTERESTING.
2133
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:33,900
THE GERSHWIN MUSIC IN MANHATTAN
2134
01:33:33,900 --> 01:33:35,400
IS REALLY A SECOND
PART OF THE MOVIE.
2135
01:33:35,900 --> 01:33:38,600
YOU HAVE THE STORY GOING ON
OF ALL THESE CHARACTERS,
2136
01:33:39,100 --> 01:33:40,800
AND THEN THIS MUSIC
WAS JUST ABLE TO
2137
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:43,300
INFORM THE AUDIENCE EMOTIONALLY
ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING.
2138
01:33:43,300 --> 01:33:45,300
IT REALLY MAKES THE MUSIC
ANOTHER CHARACTER,
2139
01:33:45,300 --> 01:33:46,800
ANOTHER PART
OF THE ENSEMBLE.
2140
01:33:47,300 --> 01:33:48,800
♪
2141
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:09,700
THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE
REGARDED AS COMEDIES
2142
01:34:09,700 --> 01:34:12,200
THAT ALWAYS BEWILDER ME.
2143
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:14,700
"MANHATTAN" WAS A ROMANCE,
2144
01:34:14,700 --> 01:34:17,700
AND I GUESS IT'S
THOUGHT OF AS A COMEDY
2145
01:34:17,700 --> 01:34:22,100
BECAUSE THE GENERAL STORY,
YOU KNOW, WAS LIGHT.
2146
01:34:22,100 --> 01:34:23,100
I MEAN, IT WAS AMUSING.
2147
01:34:23,100 --> 01:34:24,600
I WAS IN LOVE
WITH A YOUNG GIRL
2148
01:34:25,100 --> 01:34:27,100
AND THE GUY WAS
2149
01:34:27,100 --> 01:34:28,900
CHEATING ON HIS WIFE,
AND IT'S MORE OF
2150
01:34:28,900 --> 01:34:30,900
A FOREIGN FILM INFLUENCE.
2151
01:34:30,900 --> 01:34:33,900
IN FOREIGN COMEDIES,
YOU DON'T GET THOSE
2152
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:36,900
KIND OF "JOKE COMEDIES"
VERY OFTEN.
2153
01:34:36,900 --> 01:34:39,900
WHAT YOU GET MORE IS
REGULAR DRAMATIC STORIES
2154
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:43,900
BUT WITH A LITTLE LIGHT TOUCH
TO THEM HERE AND THERE.
2155
01:34:43,900 --> 01:34:44,900
WELL, I'M OLD-FASHIONED.
2156
01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:47,400
I DON'T BELIEVE IN
EXTRAMARITAL RELATIONSHIPS.
2157
01:34:47,900 --> 01:34:49,400
I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD
MATE FOR LIFE,
2158
01:34:49,900 --> 01:34:51,400
LIKE PIGEONS
OR CATHOLICS.
2159
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:53,400
Maltin: THERE WAS CERTAINLY
POTENTIAL AWKWARDNESS
2160
01:34:53,900 --> 01:34:56,100
IN THE CASTING OF
WOODY OPPOSITE
2161
01:34:56,100 --> 01:34:58,100
A TEENAGE GIRL IN "MANHATTAN,"
2162
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:01,600
BUT I THINK THAT WAS
DEFUSED IN A LOT OF WAYS
2163
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:04,100
BY HIM FINDING THIS
WONDERFUL YOUNG ACTRESS,
2164
01:35:04,100 --> 01:35:05,600
MARIEL HEMINGWAY,
2165
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:09,500
WHO WAS JUST 18 AND WHO GAVE
SUCH A WONDERFUL PERFORMANCE
2166
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:12,000
AND BROUGHT SUCH
FEELING TO IT
2167
01:35:12,500 --> 01:35:15,000
THAT SHE EVEN GOT
AN OSCAR NOMINATION.
2168
01:35:15,500 --> 01:35:17,000
Hemingway: WOODY
MADE ME FEEL
2169
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,400
AS THOUGH I WAS
PART OF THE PROCESS.
2170
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:21,900
HE KNEW THAT I WAS SCARED,
HE KNEW I WAS SHY,
2171
01:35:21,900 --> 01:35:24,900
HE KNEW I WAS THESE THINGS,
SO HE SPENT TIME WITH ME
2172
01:35:24,900 --> 01:35:27,900
OFF THE SET,
TAKING ME TO MUSEUMS
2173
01:35:27,900 --> 01:35:29,400
AND MAKING ME AWARE OF
2174
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:31,900
WHAT I PROBABLY
WOULD'VE BEEN AWARE OF
2175
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:34,400
AS THAT YOUNG GIRL
LIVING IN MANHATTAN.
2176
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:36,900
NOW, IT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN
IN A WOODY ALLEN FILM.
2177
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:39,100
YOU KNOW, HE'S LIKE,
YOU SHOW UP, YOU'RE THE ACTOR
2178
01:35:39,100 --> 01:35:40,700
AND HE FIGURES YOU
KNOW WHAT TO DO
2179
01:35:40,700 --> 01:35:43,100
AND HE LEAVES YOU ALONE,
BASICALLY.
2180
01:35:43,100 --> 01:35:45,600
SO I THINK HE KNEW
UNLESS HE BEFRIENDED ME
2181
01:35:46,100 --> 01:35:48,800
OR WE BECAME CLOSE THAT
I WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND,
2182
01:35:49,300 --> 01:35:50,800
YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T GET IT.
2183
01:35:51,300 --> 01:35:53,300
SO WHEN IT CAME TO
THAT SCENE
2184
01:35:53,300 --> 01:35:54,200
AT THE SODA FOUNTAIN
2185
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:56,300
AND HE'S BREAKING UP WITH ME,
2186
01:35:56,300 --> 01:36:00,300
THERE WAS THIS NATURAL FEELING
OF BREAKING APART A FAMILY.
2187
01:36:00,300 --> 01:36:02,800
THERE WAS A BREAKING
APART OF SOMETHING
2188
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:04,800
THAT HAD BECOME
VERY FAMILIAR TO ME,
2189
01:36:05,300 --> 01:36:07,800
BECAUSE I REALLY CARED
ABOUT HIM AS A FRIEND.
2190
01:36:08,300 --> 01:36:09,800
I REMEMBER LOOKING HIM
IN THE EYE
2191
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:11,800
AND LISTENING TO
WHAT HE SAID,
2192
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:13,300
AND LISTENING VERY,
VERY CAREFULLY.
2193
01:36:13,900 --> 01:36:17,100
THE TRUTH IS THAT I LOVE
SOMEBODY ELSE.
2194
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:23,400
YOU DO?
2195
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:25,400
HEY, COME ON,
YOU -- WE -- WE --
2196
01:36:25,900 --> 01:36:27,900
THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE
A TEMPORARY FLING.
2197
01:36:27,900 --> 01:36:29,900
YOU KNOW THAT.
2198
01:36:29,900 --> 01:36:32,400
YOU MET SOMEONE?
2199
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:37,600
WHY SHOULD I FEEL
GUILTY ABOUT THIS?
2200
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:39,100
THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
2201
01:36:39,100 --> 01:36:41,100
I'VE ALWAYS ENCOURAGED YOU
TO GO OUT WITH GUYS
2202
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:43,600
MORE YOUR OWN AGE, GUYS --
KIDS FROM YOUR CLASS.
2203
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:48,100
BILLY AND BIFF AND SCOOTER,
YOU KNOW,
2204
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:51,100
LITTLE TOMMY OR TERRY.
I DON'T --
2205
01:36:51,100 --> 01:36:54,500
HEY, COME ON,
DON'T CRY.
2206
01:36:55,000 --> 01:36:58,000
DON'T CRY.
2207
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:01,000
COME ON, DON'T --
TRACY.
2208
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:04,000
TRACY, DON'T --
COME ON, DON'T CRY, TRACY.
2209
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:06,500
Hemingway: SO WHEN I CRIED,
IT WAS REAL.
2210
01:37:06,500 --> 01:37:08,000
JUST LEAVE ME ALONE.
2211
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:09,500
Hemingway: 'CAUSE
I THOUGHT ABOUT,
2212
01:37:09,500 --> 01:37:11,000
"OH, THIS TOO WILL END,"
YOU KNOW.
2213
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:14,500
"THIS FAMILY WILL BE GONE
AND I WILL MISS YOU."
2214
01:37:14,700 --> 01:37:19,700
[ TYPEWRITER KEYS CLACKING ]
2215
01:37:19,700 --> 01:37:22,700
Feeney: I DON'T KNOW IF
THE ACT OF FALLING IN LOVE
2216
01:37:22,700 --> 01:37:26,700
HAS EVER BEEN DONE WITH
MORE POWER OR MORE ECONOMY
2217
01:37:26,700 --> 01:37:28,600
THAN IN THAT MOMENT BY
THE 59th STREET BRIDGE
2218
01:37:29,100 --> 01:37:31,600
WHERE WOODY AND DIANE KEATON
ARE SITTING ON THE PARK BENCH
2219
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:33,100
WATCHING THE DAY COME UP.
2220
01:37:33,100 --> 01:37:34,400
IT WAS A PAIN
IN THE NECK TO DO
2221
01:37:34,900 --> 01:37:37,600
BECAUSE I LIKE TO LIVE
A REGULAR SCHEDULE.
2222
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:40,600
I WENT TO SLEEP AT NIGHT
AND I HAD TO WAKE UP
2223
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:42,100
AT 3:00 IN THE MORNING.
2224
01:37:42,100 --> 01:37:44,600
PLUS, WE HAD TO BRING
OUR OWN BENCH, YOU KNOW,
2225
01:37:45,100 --> 01:37:46,600
'CAUSE THERE'S NO BENCH THERE,
2226
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:50,600
AND THEN WE STARTED SHOOTING
AS THE LIGHT CAME UP.
2227
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:52,600
♪
2228
01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:54,600
Mary: ISN'T IT
BEAUTIFUL OUT?
2229
01:37:55,100 --> 01:37:56,100
Isaac: YEAH,
IT'S REALLY --
2230
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:58,600
REALLY SO PRETTY WHEN
THE LIGHT STARTS TO COME UP.
2231
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:00,600
OH, I KNOW.
I LOVE IT.
2232
01:38:01,100 --> 01:38:03,600
[ SIGHS ]
2233
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:05,100
THIS IS REALLY
A GREAT CITY.
2234
01:38:05,100 --> 01:38:06,600
I DON'T CARE
WHAT ANYBODY SAYS.
2235
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:11,100
IT'S JUST REALLY A KNOCK OUT,
YOU KNOW?
2236
01:38:11,100 --> 01:38:15,100
WELL, I THINK I'D
BETTER HEAD BACK.
2237
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:17,600
Allen: WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW
IT WOULD BE ICONIC,
2238
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:20,100
BUT WE KNEW IT WOULD BE PRETTY,
BUT NEVER THINKING
2239
01:38:20,100 --> 01:38:22,100
THAT ANYTHING WOULD
COME OF IT OTHER THAN
2240
01:38:22,100 --> 01:38:23,600
IT WOULD BE A NICE SCENE
IN THE PICTURE.
2241
01:38:24,100 --> 01:38:26,100
♪
2242
01:38:26,100 --> 01:38:27,700
Feeney: MOST PEOPLE
TAKE IT AWAY
2243
01:38:27,700 --> 01:38:29,200
BECAUSE THAT'S HOW
THEY WANT TO FALL IN LOVE
2244
01:38:29,700 --> 01:38:30,700
OR THEY HAVE FALLEN IN LOVE.
2245
01:38:30,700 --> 01:38:34,200
IT EITHER PLAYS TO YOUR MEMORY
OR IT PLAYS TO YOUR HOPE.
2246
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:36,200
THAT'S THE SORT OF
REAL TWILIGHT
2247
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:38,200
THAT'S OPERATING
UNDER THAT SHOT.
2248
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:40,700
AND BECAUSE YOU
TAKE IT AWAY WITH YOU,
2249
01:38:40,700 --> 01:38:42,200
IT BECOMES, IN SOME WAYS,
2250
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:44,200
THE MOST POWERFUL
SHOT IN THE FILM.
2251
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:46,200
ALL RIGHT,
WHY IS LIFE WORTH LIVING?
2252
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:47,700
THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
2253
01:38:47,700 --> 01:38:50,200
Hemingway: YOU KNOW,
THE FINAL SCENE WHEN HE'S
2254
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:52,000
LYING ON THE COUCH
AND REMEMBERING ALL THE THINGS
2255
01:38:52,500 --> 01:38:53,200
THAT MAKE HIM HAPPY.
2256
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:54,700
TRACY'S FACE.
2257
01:38:54,700 --> 01:38:58,200
[ CHUCKLES ]
2258
01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:00,200
Hemingway: AND THEN STOPPING
AND RUNNING
2259
01:39:00,700 --> 01:39:01,900
DOWN THE STREET TO THAT MUSIC
2260
01:39:01,900 --> 01:39:04,400
AND THEN FINALLY
COMING UP TO THAT DOOR
2261
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:06,200
AND SEEING ME ABOUT TO LEAVE.
2262
01:39:06,200 --> 01:39:09,700
I MEAN, IT DOESN'T GET
ANY BETTER THAN THAT.
2263
01:39:09,700 --> 01:39:11,600
♪
2264
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:16,600
AND I'M NOT SAYING,
LIKE, "OH, ME!"
2265
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:19,100
THAT WAS A FILM MOMENT
WHERE YOU JUST GO,
2266
01:39:19,100 --> 01:39:21,100
"WOW. HOW INCREDIBLE
IS THAT?"
2267
01:39:21,100 --> 01:39:24,500
AND THAT'S WHAT'S
INSIDE OF HIM, YOU KNOW.
2268
01:39:24,500 --> 01:39:27,000
HE'S A ROMANTIC,
HE'S A MUSH.
2269
01:39:27,500 --> 01:39:29,200
WHAT'S BEAUTIFUL
ABOUT THE FINAL SCENE
2270
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:30,700
IS THAT IT'S SO VULNERABLE.
2271
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:33,700
I MEAN, HE WAS SO HONEST
AND PURE IN THAT SCENE,
2272
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:37,400
AND I DO BELIEVE
THAT IT SHOWS HOW TALENTED
2273
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:38,900
HE CAN BE AS AN ACTOR.
2274
01:39:38,900 --> 01:39:40,900
ALL THE STUFF GOES AWAY,
YOU KNOW,
2275
01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:43,900
ALL THE "I'M A COMEDIC ACTOR"
OR WHATEVER IS GONE
2276
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:46,000
AND HE'S JUST
RIGHT THERE WITH YOU,
2277
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:47,500
AND IT WAS SO --
IT WAS SO SWEET
2278
01:39:47,500 --> 01:39:48,500
AND IT WAS SO TOUCHING.
2279
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:51,300
[ SIGHS ]
2280
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:56,800
DO YOU STILL LOVE ME,
OR WHAT?
2281
01:39:56,800 --> 01:40:00,100
DO YOU LOVE ME?
2282
01:40:00,100 --> 01:40:03,100
WELL, YEAH, THAT'S WHY --
YEAH, OF COURSE.
2283
01:40:03,100 --> 01:40:06,100
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT,
YOU KNOW?
2284
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:13,100
I'VE GOT TO MAKE A PLANE.
2285
01:40:13,100 --> 01:40:16,100
COME ON, YOU --
COME ON.
2286
01:40:16,100 --> 01:40:18,600
YOU DON'T --
YOU DON'T HAVE TO...GO.
2287
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:21,900
WHY COULDN'T YOU HAVE
BROUGHT THIS UP LAST WEEK?
2288
01:40:23,900 --> 01:40:25,400
TRACY...
2289
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:27,900
SIX MONTHS ISN'T SO LONG.
2290
01:40:27,900 --> 01:40:33,300
NOT EVERYBODY
GETS CORRUPTED.
2291
01:40:33,300 --> 01:40:37,600
YOU HAVE TO HAVE
A LITTLE FAITH IN PEOPLE.
2292
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:39,600
♪
2293
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:43,700
Hemingway: IT'S SUCH
A SIMPLE LINE,
2294
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:45,700
"HAVE A LITTLE
FAITH IN PEOPLE."
2295
01:40:45,700 --> 01:40:49,200
AND IT'S SUCH A BEAUTIFUL THING
THAT HE KNEW.
2296
01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:50,700
♪
2297
01:40:50,700 --> 01:40:54,100
THAT'S A HUGE
STATEMENT FOR HIM.
2298
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:56,900
I MEAN, HE WROTE THE LINE,
YOU KNOW?
2299
01:40:56,900 --> 01:40:58,400
I DIDN'T MAKE THAT UP.
2300
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:01,900
♪
2301
01:41:06,900 --> 01:41:09,600
Man: TELL ME ABOUT
THE CRITICAL
2302
01:41:10,100 --> 01:41:14,600
AND PUBLIC RECEPTION TO
"MANHATTAN," GENERALLY.
2303
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:16,600
YOU KNOW, I DON'T
REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS.
2304
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:18,100
WAS IT GOOD?
THEY LIKED IT?
2305
01:41:18,100 --> 01:41:20,100
OH, WELL, WE GOT SOME
VERY GOOD REVIEWS.
2306
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:21,800
EVERYBODY LOVED "MANHATTAN."
2307
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:23,700
JUST AS "ANNIE HALL"
HAD BEEN A DEEPENING
2308
01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:26,200
OF WHAT HE'D BEEN DOING,
I THINK PEOPLE THOUGHT,
2309
01:41:26,700 --> 01:41:28,200
"WOW, 'MANHATTAN'S'
AN EVEN DEEPER
2310
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:30,700
DEEPENING OF WHAT
HE'D BEEN DOING."
2311
01:41:30,700 --> 01:41:32,500
THIS FILM WAS BIG.
2312
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:36,600
THERE WAS A GROUND SWELL
THAT HAPPENED AFTER CANNES
2313
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:38,300
THAT JUST WENT CRAZY.
2314
01:41:38,500 --> 01:41:40,200
EVERYBODY WENT CRAZY
FOR THIS FILM.
2315
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:41,500
I REMEMBER ITS
OPENING IN NEW YORK.
2316
01:41:41,500 --> 01:41:42,500
I MEAN, YOU JUST --
2317
01:41:42,500 --> 01:41:45,500
THERE WERE LINES
AROUND THE BLOCK
2318
01:41:45,500 --> 01:41:48,000
AND THE REVIEWS
WERE FANTASTIC.
2319
01:41:48,500 --> 01:41:53,300
WHEN I WAS FINISHED WITH IT,
I DIDN'T LIKE THE FILM AT ALL.
2320
01:41:53,300 --> 01:41:58,300
AND I SAW IT AND...
2321
01:41:58,300 --> 01:42:02,300
AND I SPOKE TO UNITED ARTISTS
AT THAT TIME
2322
01:42:02,300 --> 01:42:06,300
AND OFFERED TO MAKE A FILM
FOR THEM FOR NOTHING
2323
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:09,300
IF THEY WOULD NOT PUT IT OUT.
2324
01:42:09,300 --> 01:42:12,700
I JUST THOUGHT TO MYSELF,
"AT THIS POINT IN MY LIFE,
2325
01:42:12,700 --> 01:42:15,200
IF THIS IS THE BEST I CAN DO,
2326
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:18,500
THEY SHOULDN'T GIVE ME
MONEY TO MAKE MOVIES."
2327
01:42:18,500 --> 01:42:22,000
WOODY'S NOTION FOR THE FILM
WAS SO MUCH MORE AMBITIOUS,
2328
01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:24,500
I THINK, THAN WHAT HE
GOT IN THE END,
2329
01:42:24,500 --> 01:42:26,000
OR WAS SO DIFFERENT FROM IT,
2330
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:28,000
THAT HE WAS
EXTRAORDINARILY DISAPPOINTED.
2331
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:31,000
AND IT'S INTERESTING HOW
AUDIENCES HAVE RESPONDED,
2332
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:34,500
'CAUSE THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT
HIS HOPE OR DREAM WAS FOR THIS.
2333
01:42:34,500 --> 01:42:36,000
THEY JUST TOOK THIS
AND JUST COMPLETELY
2334
01:42:36,500 --> 01:42:37,500
LATCHED ONTO IT
IN A WAY THAT I THINK
2335
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:38,800
STILL MYSTIFIES HIM.
2336
01:42:39,300 --> 01:42:41,500
AFTER "MANHATTAN,"
THE AUDIENCE WAS READY
2337
01:42:42,000 --> 01:42:43,500
TO FOLLOW WOODY ALLEN ANYWHERE.
2338
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:45,500
ANYWHERE EXCEPT
"STARDUST MEMORIES."
2339
01:42:45,500 --> 01:42:46,500
[ LAUGHS ]
2340
01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:48,200
WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO SAY?
2341
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:50,200
I DON'T WANT TO MAKE
FUNNY MOVIES ANYMORE.
2342
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:51,200
THEY CAN'T FORCE ME TO.
2343
01:42:51,200 --> 01:42:52,700
YOU KNOW,
I DON'T FEEL FUNNY.
2344
01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:55,700
I LOOK AROUND THE WORLD AND ALL
I SEE IS HUMAN SUFFERING.
2345
01:42:55,700 --> 01:42:57,700
I WAS SO DISAPPOINTED
IN "STARDUST MEMORIES,"
2346
01:42:57,700 --> 01:42:59,700
I SAW IT THREE TIMES
THE WEEK IT OPENED, RIGHT?
2347
01:42:59,700 --> 01:43:01,600
'CAUSE I KEPT FEELING
IT'S MY FAULT,
2348
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:04,100
BECAUSE HE WAS UP TO
SOMETHING INTERESTING
2349
01:43:04,100 --> 01:43:05,600
EVEN IF I COULDN'T
QUITE BUY IN.
2350
01:43:06,100 --> 01:43:09,600
I WANTED TO.
I WANTED TO FIND A WAY PAST.
2351
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:11,600
AND THERE WAS SOMETHING
IN THAT FILM
2352
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:12,600
THAT IS UNIQUE AND ORIGINAL.
2353
01:43:13,100 --> 01:43:16,800
THAT WAS MY FAVORITE
FILM FOR A WHILE.
2354
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:18,800
IT WAS MY LEAST POPULAR FILM,
2355
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:23,300
BUT IT'S CERTAINLY MY OWN
PERSONAL FAVORITE.
2356
01:43:23,300 --> 01:43:24,800
Feeney: I WOULD BET YOU THAT
2357
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:26,300
WOODY'S FAVORITE MOVIES
WERE THE ONES
2358
01:43:26,300 --> 01:43:28,300
WHERE HE FELT HE PULLED OFF
SOMETHING STYLISTIC,
2359
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:30,300
WHERE WE PULLED OFF
AN AMBITIOUS MAGIC TRICK.
2360
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:33,000
"STARDUST MEMORIES,"
I THINK, IS A BIG MAGIC ACT.
2361
01:43:33,500 --> 01:43:36,000
YOU KNOW, QUITE APART FROM
ITS INFLUENCE BY FELLINI,
2362
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:39,500
IT'S ESSENTIALLY,
HE'S JUST WORKING HIS MAGIC
2363
01:43:39,500 --> 01:43:40,900
AND IN A SENSE MAKING
A STATEMENT ABOUT
2364
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:43,500
BEING A MAGICIAN,
SO TO SPEAK.
2365
01:43:43,500 --> 01:43:45,000
AND BECAUSE OF THAT,
2366
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:48,000
THE AUDIENCE DIDN'T FEEL
THAT THEY COULD RELATE TO IT
2367
01:43:48,500 --> 01:43:51,000
AS PERSONALLY AS THEY DID
TO THE OTHER FILMS.
2368
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:53,500
YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO
TRY AND MAKE A FILM
2369
01:43:53,500 --> 01:43:54,500
ABOUT A MAN WHO HAD
2370
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:57,200
PRESUMABLY TO THE OUTSIDE EYE,
EVERYTHING.
2371
01:43:57,200 --> 01:44:00,700
HE HAD MONEY AND HE
WAS FAMOUS,
2372
01:44:00,700 --> 01:44:02,700
AND YET, HE HAD COME TO
A POINT IN LIFE WHERE
2373
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:06,300
HE REALIZED STILL THAT HE WAS
STILL GOING TO WIND UP
2374
01:44:06,300 --> 01:44:09,200
ON THE JUNK HEAP
WITH EVERYBODY ELSE
2375
01:44:09,200 --> 01:44:12,200
AND HIM COMING TO TERMS
WITH THAT IDEA
2376
01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:15,000
OVER THE COURSE OF
THIS WEEKEND WHICH REALLY
2377
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:17,500
HAPPENS IN HIS MIND
FOR THE MOST PART.
2378
01:44:17,500 --> 01:44:19,900
A YEAR OR TWO BEFORE HE MADE IT,
HE HAD GONE WITH JUDITH CRIST,
2379
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:23,100
WHO WAS THE FILM CRITIC FOR
NEW YORK MAGAZINE AT THE TIME,
2380
01:44:23,100 --> 01:44:25,100
TO A WEEKEND SEMINAR
THAT SHE DID ON FILM
2381
01:44:25,100 --> 01:44:27,600
AT AN ESTATE TURNED INTO
A HOTEL UP THE HUDSON
2382
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:29,600
ABOUT AN HOUR FROM NEW YORK,
AND HE CAME
2383
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:32,100
AND HE WAS THE GUEST
FOR THE WEEKEND THERE.
2384
01:44:32,100 --> 01:44:34,500
AND OUT OF THAT
CAME THIS WHOLE NOTION
2385
01:44:34,500 --> 01:44:37,000
THAT HE DID OF THE GUY
HAVING THE CRACK-UP.
2386
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:38,000
WE LOVE YOUR WORK.
2387
01:44:38,500 --> 01:44:40,000
MY WIFE HAS SEEN
ALL YOUR FILMS.
2388
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:42,500
I ESPECIALLY LIKE YOUR EARLY,
FUNNY ONES.
2389
01:44:42,500 --> 01:44:45,500
MANY PEOPLE SAW THAT FILM AS
2390
01:44:45,500 --> 01:44:50,500
ME ATTACKING MY FANS
AND SAYING THE PEOPLE OUT THERE
2391
01:44:50,500 --> 01:44:55,000
THAT ARE ENJOYING MY FILMS
ARE CLAWING AND PAWING
2392
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:59,000
AND SILLY LOOKING,
BUT THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO
2393
01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:01,000
WITH THE FILM AT ALL.
2394
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:04,500
Lax: THE FILM IS REALLY
ABOUT PROBLEMS OF
2395
01:45:04,500 --> 01:45:05,900
AN ARTISTIC SENSIBILITY
2396
01:45:05,900 --> 01:45:08,400
AND HOW YOU'RE IN YOUR MIND
OR OUT OF YOUR MIND.
2397
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:11,000
WHAT WERE YOU TRYING TO
SAY IN THIS PICTURE?
2398
01:45:11,500 --> 01:45:12,800
Sandy: I WAS JUST
TRYING TO BE FUNNY.
2399
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:15,800
[ LAUGHTER ]
2400
01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:17,700
HAD YOU STUDIED
FILM MAKING IN SCHOOL?
2401
01:45:17,700 --> 01:45:18,700
Sandy: NO, NO, NO.
2402
01:45:18,700 --> 01:45:20,200
I DIDN'T STUDY
ANYTHING IN SCHOOL.
2403
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:21,200
THEY STUDIED ME.
2404
01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:22,600
[ LAUGHTER ]
2405
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:25,000
Kavner: I KEPT A FILE
OF PHOTOGRAPHS
2406
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:27,000
OF WOODY ALLEN FACES.
2407
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:29,900
THERE WAS SOMETHING HUMOROUS
ABOUT THEM THAT WAS DISTINCTIVE.
2408
01:45:29,900 --> 01:45:33,700
SO I WOULD HAVE DRAWERS
OF PICTURES THAT I SAVED
2409
01:45:33,700 --> 01:45:35,200
SPECIFICALLY FOR WOODY.
2410
01:45:35,700 --> 01:45:37,500
WE REALLY, YOU KNOW,
2411
01:45:37,500 --> 01:45:39,900
LOOKED FOR VERY ECCENTRIC,
2412
01:45:39,900 --> 01:45:43,600
STRANGE,
HUMOROUS PEOPLE.
2413
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:46,700
THAT WAS PROBABLY
OUR MOST AMBITIOUS
2414
01:45:46,700 --> 01:45:48,700
STYLE PIECE TO THAT DATE.
2415
01:45:48,700 --> 01:45:51,600
IT WAS A LITTLE MORE EXOTIC
AND FLAMBOYANT
2416
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:53,500
BECAUSE HE WAS
2417
01:45:53,500 --> 01:45:55,900
MORE IMPRESSED BY
DIRECTORS WHOSE STYLE
2418
01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:58,100
WAS MORE VISUALLY STIMULATING
AND INTERESTING,
2419
01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:00,100
YOU KNOW, BERGMAN
AND FELLINI.
2420
01:46:00,100 --> 01:46:02,500
Willis: HE HAS GREAT ADMIRATION
2421
01:46:02,500 --> 01:46:07,500
FOR A LOT OF FOREIGN DIRECTORS
AND A LOT OF FOREIGN MOVIES.
2422
01:46:07,500 --> 01:46:09,100
HE'S NEVER MADE
A SECRET OUT OF THAT.
2423
01:46:09,100 --> 01:46:11,600
YOU GET BLAMED FOR
2424
01:46:12,100 --> 01:46:15,400
COPYING OTHER MATERIAL,
OR, YOU KNOW,
2425
01:46:15,900 --> 01:46:18,000
YOU'RE DOING BERGMAN
AND YOU'RE DOING FELLINI
2426
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:19,000
AND YOU'RE DOING "8 1/2."
2427
01:46:19,500 --> 01:46:23,300
BUT WE NEVER DISCUSSED
ANYTHING AT THAT LEVEL EVER,
2428
01:46:23,300 --> 01:46:25,200
ANYBODY ELSE'S MOVIES.
2429
01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:28,000
THERE'S NO QUESTION OF
FELLINI'S INFLUENCE ON WOODY.
2430
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:31,400
NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
2431
01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:33,300
Feeney: CRITICS WERE
OVEREDUCATED 'CAUSE
2432
01:46:33,300 --> 01:46:34,800
THEY'D ALL SEEN "8 1/2"
AND THEY THOUGHT,
2433
01:46:35,300 --> 01:46:36,300
"OH, HE'S JUST
REMAKING '8 1/2.'"
2434
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:39,000
I THINK AUDIENCE MEMBERS
WHO DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING
2435
01:46:39,500 --> 01:46:41,500
ABOUT "8 1/2"
WERE JUST SORT OF PUT OFF
2436
01:46:41,500 --> 01:46:43,500
BY THE STRANGE
BUSYNESS OF IT.
2437
01:46:43,500 --> 01:46:45,900
YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE
POINT OF THE MOVIE
2438
01:46:45,900 --> 01:46:46,900
IS THAT NOBODY IS SAVED.
2439
01:46:47,500 --> 01:46:48,700
SANDY, THIS IS AN EASTER FILM.
2440
01:46:48,700 --> 01:46:50,200
WE DON'T NEED A MOVIE
BY AN ATHEIST.
2441
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:51,700
ONE MORE, SIR.
TO YOU I'M AN ATHEIST.
2442
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:53,700
TO GOD,
I'M THE LOYAL OPPOSITION.
2443
01:46:53,700 --> 01:46:54,500
[Laughing]
JESUS.
2444
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:56,700
I'M YOUR BIGGEST FAN.
I THINK YOU'RE TERRIFIC.
2445
01:46:56,700 --> 01:46:57,700
THANK YOU.
2446
01:46:57,700 --> 01:46:59,200
HIS PUBLIC ADORES HIM.
2447
01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:00,700
YEAH.
TODAY THEY ADORE YOU
2448
01:47:00,700 --> 01:47:02,200
AND TOMORROW IT'S
ONE OF THESE.
2449
01:47:02,200 --> 01:47:04,700
Allen: "STARDUST MEMORIES"
IS A COMPLETELY MADE-UP STORY,
2450
01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:08,900
AND I WAS SURPRISED THAT,
YOU KNOW,
2451
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:13,900
THAT PEOPLE WOULD THINK
THAT THAT WAS ME.
2452
01:47:13,900 --> 01:47:15,300
THE PRESS HATED IT.
2453
01:47:15,300 --> 01:47:18,800
HE GOT TERRIBLE
REVIEWS FOR IT.
2454
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:22,300
THE TRUTH IS WOODY
DIDN'T READ REVIEWS.
2455
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:28,200
SO HE WASN'T TERRIBLY
AFFECTED BY REVIEWS.
2456
01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:29,800
I READ ALL OF THEM.
2457
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:31,300
[ LAUGHS ]
2458
01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:33,000
YOU GUYS GOT TO TELL ME.
2459
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:35,000
WHY IS THERE SO MUCH
HUMAN SUFFERING?
2460
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:36,800
THIS IS UNANSWERABLE.
2461
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:38,300
IS THERE A GOD?
2462
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:40,800
THESE ARE
THE WRONG QUESTIONS.
2463
01:47:41,300 --> 01:47:42,100
LOOK, HERE'S MY POINT.
2464
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:44,100
IF NOTHING LASTS,
WHY AM I BOTHERING
2465
01:47:44,100 --> 01:47:46,600
TO MAKE FILMS OR DO ANYTHING
FOR THAT MATTER?
2466
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:48,000
WE ENJOY YOUR FILMS,
2467
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:50,500
PARTICULARLY THE EARLY,
FUNNY ONES.
2468
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:53,300
THE PUBLIC WAS VERY,
VERY GENEROUS WITH ME
2469
01:47:53,300 --> 01:47:56,300
AND THE CRITICS WERE VERY
GENEROUS WHEN I STARTED.
2470
01:47:56,300 --> 01:47:57,800
THEY OVERLOOKED
ALL MY MISTAKES,
2471
01:47:58,300 --> 01:48:00,800
THEY ONLY WROTE
THE NICE THINGS,
2472
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:04,300
AND NOW I THINK
I'M AT THAT STAGE WHERE
2473
01:48:04,300 --> 01:48:07,300
I MUST PAY MY DUES
AND BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE
2474
01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:10,300
FOR THE MANY TERRIBLE
THINGS THAT I DO.
2475
01:48:10,300 --> 01:48:13,300
AND I THINK THAT IN
FUTURE YEARS,
2476
01:48:13,300 --> 01:48:16,300
I HAVE A CHANCE TO --
TO COME BACK AGAIN.
2477
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:19,000
AFTER "STARDUST MEMORIES,"
I THINK MANY IN HIS AUDIENCE
2478
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:21,500
WERE SAYING, YOU KNOW,
"HAS HE PLAYED HIMSELF OUT?
2479
01:48:21,500 --> 01:48:22,500
WHAT CAN HAPPEN NOW?
2480
01:48:22,500 --> 01:48:24,000
IS THIS THE END OF HIM?"
2481
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:27,000
WHEN ARGUABLY, HIS BEST WORK
IS YET TO COME.
2482
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:29,500
♪
1
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:02,700
Feeney: WE'RE SO USED TO
CONCEIVING OF WOODY ALLEN
2
01:50:02,500 --> 01:50:03,800
AS A NEW YORK FILMMAKER
3
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:06,000
THAT IT'S ACTUALLY COME
AS QUITE A SHOCK
4
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:07,300
TO FIND HIM MAKING FILMS
5
01:50:07,300 --> 01:50:10,700
IN ENGLAND OR IN SPAIN,
BUT THE TRUTH IS
6
01:50:11,200 --> 01:50:12,500
HE'S STILL
THE SAME FILMMAKER.
7
01:50:12,500 --> 01:50:13,800
I MEAN, HE WAS
A METROPOLITAN FILMMAKER
8
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:16,000
AND HE'S BECOME
9
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:18,100
A COSMOPOLITAN FILMMAKER.
10
01:50:18,100 --> 01:50:19,400
YOU KNOW, HE'S STILL
WOODY ALLEN,
11
01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:20,700
BUT HE'S JUST CHANGED
-POLITANS.
12
01:50:21,300 --> 01:50:25,200
Insdorf: THE INSPIRATION
OF LONDON FOR "MATCH POINT,"
13
01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:29,500
OF BARCELONA FOR
"VICKY CRISTINA BARCELONA,"
14
01:50:29,500 --> 01:50:32,500
OF PARIS FOR
"MIDNIGHT IN THE PARIS" --
15
01:50:32,500 --> 01:50:34,300
AND HIS NEXT FILM
WILL BE SET IN ROME --
16
01:50:34,300 --> 01:50:37,700
I THINK THESE ARE PROVIDING
A WONDERFUL WAY
17
01:50:37,700 --> 01:50:40,800
FOR WOODY ALLEN TO RECHARGE
HIS CINEMATIC BATTERIES.
18
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:45,100
FOR EXAMPLE, WE THINK WE'VE SEEN
EVERYTHING OF PARIS ONSCREEN,
19
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:47,700
PROBABLY, BY NOW,
AND MAYBE WE HAVE,
20
01:50:47,700 --> 01:50:51,600
BUT, IN "MIDNIGHT IN PARIS,"
IT'S THE NOCTURNAL CITY
21
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:54,700
THAT OBVIOUSLY ANIMATES
NOT ONLY THE CHARACTER GIL,
22
01:50:55,100 --> 01:50:57,700
BUT WOODY ALLEN'S
IMAGINATION.
23
01:50:57,700 --> 01:51:00,700
IT'S THOSE WINDING
DARK STREETS,
24
01:51:01,200 --> 01:51:03,800
THIS GEOGRAPHICAL
OR SPATIAL DISLOCATION
25
01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:08,100
THAT CREATES THE TIME WARP IN
"MIDNIGHT IN PARIS."
26
01:51:08,100 --> 01:51:10,300
IN OTHER WORDS,
IT COMES FROM THE PLACE
27
01:51:10,300 --> 01:51:13,300
THAT, SUDDENLY, WE'RE
TRANSPORTED TO THE 1920s.
28
01:51:13,300 --> 01:51:16,300
OH, HI,
MR. HEMINGWAY.
29
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:18,500
THE ASSIGNMENT WAS
TO TAKE THE HILL.
30
01:51:18,500 --> 01:51:20,700
THERE WERE FOUR OF US --
FIVE, IF YOU COUNTED VICENTE,
31
01:51:21,100 --> 01:51:23,300
BUT HE HAD LOST HIS HAND
WHEN A GRENADE WENT OFF
32
01:51:23,300 --> 01:51:25,900
AND COULDN'T FIGHT AS HE
COULD WHEN I FIRST MET HIM
33
01:51:25,900 --> 01:51:28,900
AND HE WAS YOUNG AND BRAVE
AND THE HILL WAS SOGGY
34
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:32,000
FROM DAYS OF RAIN AND IT
SLOPED DOWN TOWARD A ROAD
35
01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:34,100
AND THERE WERE MANY GERMAN
SOLDIERS ON THE ROAD
36
01:51:34,100 --> 01:51:36,300
AND THE IDEA WAS TO AIM
FOR THE FIRST GROUP AND,
37
01:51:36,700 --> 01:51:39,800
IF OUR AIM WAS TRUE,
WE COULD DELAY THEM.
38
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:41,900
WERE YOU SCARED?
39
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:43,200
OF WHAT?
40
01:51:43,700 --> 01:51:45,000
GETTING KILLED.
41
01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:46,300
[ SCOFF ]
42
01:51:46,300 --> 01:51:48,000
YOU'LL NEVER WRITE WELL
IF YOU FEAR DYING.
43
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:48,900
DO YOU?
44
01:51:49,300 --> 01:51:50,200
YEAH, I DO.
45
01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:52,400
I'D SAY
IT'S PROBABLY
46
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:54,100
MY GREATEST FEAR,
ACTUALLY.
47
01:51:54,100 --> 01:51:55,400
WELL, IT'S SOMETHING
ALL MEN BEFORE YOU
48
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:57,100
HAVE DONE,
ALL MEN WILL DO.
49
01:51:57,100 --> 01:51:58,400
I KNOW, I KNOW.
50
01:51:58,900 --> 01:52:01,000
HAVE YOU EVER MADE LOVE
TO A TRULY GREAT WOMAN?
51
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:05,400
ACTUALLY, MY FIANCEE
IS PRET-TY SEXY.
52
01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:06,700
AND WHEN YOU
MAKE LOVE TO HER,
53
01:52:06,700 --> 01:52:08,400
YOU FEEL TRUE
AND BEAUTIFUL PASSION
54
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:10,100
AND YOU, FOR AT LEAST
THAT MOMENT,
55
01:52:10,100 --> 01:52:11,900
LOSE YOUR FEAR
OF DEATH.
56
01:52:12,300 --> 01:52:14,000
NO, THAT
DOESN'T HAPPEN.
57
01:52:14,500 --> 01:52:16,600
Insdorf: THE VERY
GEOGRAPHY OF THE WORLD
58
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:21,400
IS INSPIRING WOODY ALLEN
IN THIS PHASE OF HIS CAREER,
59
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:26,600
MUCH LIKE NEW YORK CITY INSPIRED
HIS FIRST 25, 30 YEARS.
60
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:28,400
HE SAID, YOU KNOW,
ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS
61
01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:30,100
ABOUT LEAVING NEW YORK
IS THAT HE SHOT
62
01:52:30,100 --> 01:52:32,300
JUST ABOUT EVERY STREET
CORNER THAT HE COULD.
63
01:52:32,700 --> 01:52:35,300
Lax: HE CAME TO THE POINT
WHERE, SUDDENLY,
64
01:52:35,300 --> 01:52:37,900
IT BECAME MORE DIFFICULT
TO MAKE FILMS IN NEW YORK
65
01:52:37,900 --> 01:52:40,100
BECAUSE THEY'RE
SO EXPENSIVE TO DO
66
01:52:40,100 --> 01:52:42,200
AND HE WAS GETTING MONEY
TO GO ABROAD TO DO IT.
67
01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:45,300
BUT I THINK, IN THE END,
THE FILMS ARE THE FILMS,
68
01:52:45,300 --> 01:52:46,600
THE STORIES ARE
THE STORIES.
69
01:52:46,600 --> 01:52:51,300
SO, INSTEAD OF FROM LONG ISLAND,
PEOPLE CAME FROM LONDON.
70
01:52:51,300 --> 01:52:54,800
Aronson: I FORGOT TO TELL YOU
THAT SIDNEY ZION DIED.
71
01:52:55,200 --> 01:52:56,100
WHO? WHAT?
72
01:52:56,100 --> 01:52:57,400
SIDNEY ZION.
73
01:52:57,400 --> 01:52:58,700
OH, SIDNEY ZION DIED?
OH!
74
01:52:58,700 --> 01:53:00,000
AND GWATHMEY.
75
01:53:00,500 --> 01:53:01,800
CHARLIE GWATHMEY
DIED?
76
01:53:01,800 --> 01:53:03,500
YES, HE HAD
ESOPHAGEAL CANCER.
77
01:53:03,500 --> 01:53:05,200
REALLY?
78
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:08,300
YES, SO THAT'S
MY NEWS OF THE DAY.
79
01:53:08,300 --> 01:53:10,000
OH, MY GOD.
80
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:11,700
REALLY?
81
01:53:11,700 --> 01:53:14,800
ONE AFTER THE OTHER,
THE DEATHS HAVE JUST BEEN
82
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:16,900
MOUNTING UP,
IT'S AWFUL.
83
01:53:16,900 --> 01:53:18,700
WELL, THERE WERE ALWAYS
ALL THOSE DEATHS,
84
01:53:19,100 --> 01:53:21,300
THESE JUST HAPPEN TO BE
PEOPLE YOU KNOW.
85
01:53:21,300 --> 01:53:23,000
IT'S NOT LIKE
THERE WAS EVER A LULL
86
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:24,300
IN THE NUMBER
OF DEATHS.
87
01:53:24,700 --> 01:53:26,000
I KNOW THEM ALL.
88
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:27,800
[ "STOMPIN' AT THE SAVOY"
PLAYS ]
89
01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:30,800
Allen: I DON'T DO
ANY PREPARATION.
90
01:53:30,800 --> 01:53:32,600
I DON'T DO ANY
REHEARSALS.
91
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:34,700
MOST OF THE TIMES, I DON'T EVEN
KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SHOOT.
92
01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:37,800
WHEN I COME, THEY HAND ME
THE COUPLE OF PAGES,
93
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:40,400
THE MATERIAL THAT WE'RE
GOING TO DO FOR THE DAY,
94
01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:44,700
AND I SEE WHAT IT IS
THAT I'M IN FOR.
95
01:53:44,700 --> 01:53:46,000
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE
I DON'T READ THE SCRIPT
96
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:49,000
AFTER I'M FINISHED WITH IT
AND I REWRITE IT.
97
01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:51,200
I DON'T READ IT AGAIN
98
01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:56,000
BECAUSE IT GETS STALE TO ME
AND I START TO HATE IT.
99
01:53:56,000 --> 01:54:00,300
HE HAS A GREAT FEELING
FOR STAGING.
100
01:54:00,300 --> 01:54:02,000
YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHERE
THE CAMERA SHOULD BE
101
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:04,200
IN ORDER TO TELL
WHAT THE SCENE IS ABOUT
102
01:54:04,200 --> 01:54:08,600
AND HE HAS A GREAT FEELING
ABOUT WHERE THE CAMERA SHOULD BE
103
01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:10,300
AND THEN WHAT PART
OF THE SET
104
01:54:10,300 --> 01:54:12,500
YOU WANT TO SEE.
105
01:54:12,500 --> 01:54:13,800
HE DOESN'T LIKE TRICKS,
106
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:17,200
HE DOESN'T LIKE EFFECTS,
HE DOESN'T USE GADGETS.
107
01:54:17,200 --> 01:54:19,800
HE LIKES COLLABORATORS
AROUND HIM.
108
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:22,000
YOU KNOW,
IT'S JUST ONE WORD,
109
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:26,300
ACTUALLY, I WOULD SAY,
IT'S "SIMPLICITY."
110
01:54:26,300 --> 01:54:30,200
HE IS A DIRECTOR WHO BELIEVES
IN THE WRITTEN WORD.
111
01:54:30,700 --> 01:54:35,900
IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.
THIS IS NOT QUANTUM PHYSICS.
112
01:54:35,900 --> 01:54:38,500
IF YOU'RE THE WRITER
OF THE STORY,
113
01:54:38,500 --> 01:54:42,400
YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WANT
THE AUDIENCE TO SEE
114
01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:43,700
BECAUSE
YOU'VE WRITTEN IT.
115
01:54:44,100 --> 01:54:50,200
IT'S JUST STORYTELLING
AND YOU TELL IT.
116
01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:52,400
THERE'S NO BIG DEAL
TO IT.
117
01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:55,400
[ "STOMPIN' AT THE SAVOY"
PLAYS ]
118
01:54:59,300 --> 01:55:01,000
Cavett: ONE NIGHT, WE WERE
IN TRADER VIC'S AND WE
119
01:55:01,000 --> 01:55:04,900
UNCHARACTERISTICALLY STARTED
TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE.
120
01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:10,100
HE USED THE PHRASE "I HAVE
ENDLESS IDEAS FOR MOVIES"
121
01:55:10,100 --> 01:55:12,700
AND I REMEMBER IT FELT LIKE
THE EARTH MOVED.
122
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:15,800
I JUST THOUGHT,
"IT WOULD TAKE ME A YEAR
123
01:55:16,200 --> 01:55:17,500
"TO HAVE ONE IDEA
ABOUT A MOVIE,
124
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:23,600
AND HE'S ABLE TO THINK OF MAKING
ONE OR TWO OR THREE OR... MANY?"
125
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:27,100
I MIGHT EVEN HAVE THOUGHT,
SOMEWHAT CONDESCENDINGLY,
126
01:55:27,100 --> 01:55:30,500
"WELL, HE MAY FIND OUT THAT
IT'S NOT ALL THAT EASY."
127
01:55:30,500 --> 01:55:32,300
THIS IS
128
01:55:32,300 --> 01:55:34,400
MY COLLECTION.
129
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:37,900
THIS IS HOW I'LL START
130
01:55:37,900 --> 01:55:40,100
AND THERE'S
ALL KINDS OF SCRAPS
131
01:55:40,100 --> 01:55:44,400
AND THINGS THAT ARE WRITTEN
ON HOTEL THINGS
132
01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:48,300
AND I'LL, YOU KNOW,
PONDER THESE THINGS.
133
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:52,700
I'LL PULL THESE OUT AND I'LL
DUMP THEM HERE LIKE THIS.
134
01:55:52,700 --> 01:55:55,300
I GO THROUGH THIS
ALL THE TIME,
135
01:55:55,300 --> 01:55:58,700
EVERY TIME
I START A PROJECT,
136
01:55:58,700 --> 01:56:03,100
AND I SIT HERE LIKE THIS
AND I'LL LOOK AT --
137
01:56:03,100 --> 01:56:06,100
OH, DON'T LIKE THAT.
138
01:56:06,500 --> 01:56:09,600
RIGHT.
139
01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:12,200
NO.
140
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:14,300
Man: READ ME
ONE NOTE
141
01:56:14,300 --> 01:56:16,500
OFF OF ONE PIECE
OF PAPER.
142
01:56:16,900 --> 01:56:18,200
A NOTE HERE WOULD BE
143
01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:25,600
"A MAN INHERITS
ALL THE MAGIC TRICKS
144
01:56:26,100 --> 01:56:27,400
OF A GREAT MAGICIAN."
145
01:56:27,800 --> 01:56:33,000
NOW, THAT'S ALL I HAVE THERE,
BUT I COULD SEE, YOU KNOW,
146
01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:37,800
A STORY FORMING WHERE
SOME LITTLE JERK LIKE MYSELF,
147
01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:43,400
AT AN AUCTION
OR AT SOME OPPORTUNITY,
148
01:56:43,400 --> 01:56:48,200
BUYS ALL THOSE ILLUSIONS
AND, YOU KNOW,
149
01:56:48,200 --> 01:56:53,400
BOXES AND GUILLOTINES
AND THINGS,
150
01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:58,600
AND LEADING ME TO SOME KIND
OF INTERESTING ADVENTURE,
151
01:56:58,600 --> 01:57:05,100
GOING INTO ONE OF THOSE BOXES
AND MAYBE SUDDENLY SHOWING UP
152
01:57:05,100 --> 01:57:07,700
IN A DIFFERENT TIMEFRAME
OR IN A DIFFERENT COUNTRY
153
01:57:08,100 --> 01:57:10,300
OR IN A DIFFERENT PLACE
ALTOGETHER
154
01:57:10,300 --> 01:57:12,500
OR, YOU KNOW,
SOME KIND OF THING.
155
01:57:12,900 --> 01:57:15,900
AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL SPEND
AN HOUR OF THINKING OF THAT
156
01:57:15,900 --> 01:57:19,800
AND IT'LL GO NO PLACE AND THEN
I'LL GO ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
157
01:57:20,300 --> 01:57:22,900
IF HE HAS AN IDEA --
AND HE HAS A LOT OF IDEAS --
158
01:57:22,900 --> 01:57:26,400
IF HE HAS AN IDEA
AND HE STARTS TO WRITE IT
159
01:57:26,400 --> 01:57:29,000
AND IT SEEMS LIKE
IT'S GOING TO WORK OUT,
160
01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:32,400
THE WRITING OF IT
DOESN'T TAKE HIM VERY LONG.
161
01:57:32,900 --> 01:57:35,900
I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY
WRITE SO FAST
162
01:57:35,900 --> 01:57:39,800
AND PERHAPS THAT EXPLAINS,
TO A LARGE EXTENT,
163
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:41,500
WHY HE'S MADE
SO MANY FILMS.
164
01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:43,700
IF YOU WANT TO COMPARE
WOODY ALLEN,
165
01:57:43,700 --> 01:57:45,400
IN THE REALM
OF PRODUCTIVITY,
166
01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:48,000
YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO
REACH BACK AN ERA.
167
01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:49,800
YOU HAVE TO REACH BACK
TO THE 1930s,
168
01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:52,800
WHEN JOHN FORD AND HOWARD HAWKS
AND RAOUL WALSH
169
01:57:53,200 --> 01:57:55,800
AND GUYS LIKE THAT WERE MAKING
MORE THAN ONE FILM A YEAR.
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THEY WE'RE DOING IT
UNDER THE STUDIO SYSTEM.
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THEY WERE BASICALLY PART
OF THE DREAM FACTORY.
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NOW, WOODY ALLEN
IS DOING A FILM A YEAR
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AND WRITING A FILM A YEAR
FOR 40 YEARS.
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THAT'S UNHEARD OF.
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THAT'S ALMOST WITHOUT PRECEDENT,
EXCEPT FOR INGMAR BERGMAN.
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WHO THE HELL IS GOOD
FOR 20 YEARS?
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THIS GUY'S BEEN
GOOD FOR 40 YEARS.
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WHO'S GOOD FOR 10 YEARS?
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FIVE YEARS?
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HE'S KIND OF PEERLESS.
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THE CLOSEST FIGURE TO
WOODY ALLEN WOULD BE BABE RUTH.
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BABE RUTH LED
THE AMERICAN LEAGUE
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WITH 54 HOME RUNS
ONE YEAR.
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THE NEXT GUY HAD 13.
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NOT EVERYBODY
HAS THE STAYING POWER,
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NOT EVERYBODY HAS
THE TENACITY,
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AND NOT EVERYBODY HAS SO MUCH
TO SAY ABOUT LIFE CONTINUALLY.
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SO, FROM A PURELY ENDURANCE
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POINT OF VIEW,
LONGEVITY AND QUANTITY
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IS AN ACHIEVEMENT, YES,
BUT NOT THE VALUABLE ONE.
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THE ACHIEVEMENT
THAT I'M GOING FOR IS
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TO TRY AND MAKE
A GREAT FILM
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AND THAT HAS ELUDED ME
OVER THE DECADES.
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Maltin: AFTER A PRETTY
AMAZING 10-YEAR RUN
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OF BUILDING GOODWILL WITH
CRITICS AND AUDIENCES ALIKE
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AND THEN EXPERIENCING
THIS MISFIRE,
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AS IT WAS SEEN
IN MANY CIRCLES,
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WITH "STARDUST MEMORIES" --
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IT WAS CLEAR THAT HE WAS NOT
GOING TO BE BOXED IN
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TO ANY KIND OF CORNER
OR PIGEONHOLE,
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HE WAS GOING TO DO
WHAT HE FELT LIKE DOING,
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SO THE QUESTION REMAINED --
"WHAT'S NEXT?"
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I WAS GOING TO CONTINUE
TO MAKE FUNNY FILMS.
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I MEAN, I WAS NOT TRYING
TO GET AWAY FROM IT --
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IN FACT, PROBABLY
THE NEXT FILM I MAKE.
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I HAVEN'T MADE A REALLY
FUNNY FILM FOR A WHILE.
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I WOULD LIKE
TO TRY THAT AGAIN.
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IF "STARDUST MEMORIES"
WAS A MISSTEP, THEN
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"A MIDSUMMER NIGHT'S SEX COMEDY"
WAS A RETURN TO STRENGTH.
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HE WAS ACTUALLY GOING BACK
TO A KNOWN AREA,
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WHICH WAS PURE COMEDY.
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"A MIDSUMMER NIGHT'S SEX COMEDY"
IS THE FIRST FARCE
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HE'S DONE, REALLY,
SINCE "LOVE AND DEATH."
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[ CLATTER ]
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IT WAS RELEASED
AS A SUMMER MOVIE.
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PEOPLE THOUGHT, "AH," YOU KNOW,
"HERE COMES WOODY AGAIN."
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AND I THINK THAT THE STUDIO
BACKERS, YOU KNOW,
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HAD TO BE HEAVING
A SIGH OF RELIEF
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THAT IT WAS IN COLOR
AS WELL.
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AND I THOUGHT
I'D LIKE TO DO SOMETHING
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IN THE COUNTRY,
JUST FOR FUN,
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JUST TO SEE THE COUNTRY
AS A BEAUTIFUL THING,
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THE WAY I SEE THE CITY,
JUST FOR AMUSEMENT.
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Willis: AND SOMEBODY
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SAW THE MOVIE AND SAID,
"IT WAS THE FIRST TIME
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I'VE EVER COME OUT OF A MOVIE
WHISTLING THE PHOTOGRAPHY,"
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YOU KNOW, SO I THOUGHT
IT WAS PRETTY FUNNY.
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THE OTHER ASPECT OF
"A MIDSUMMER NIGHT'S SEX COMEDY"
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IS THAT IT INTRODUCES MIA FARROW
TO HIS BODY OF WORK.
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YES,
WE'VE MET BEFORE.
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ARIEL TOLD ME
ABOUT YOU.
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IT WAS SUCH
A FUNNY COINCIDENCE
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WHEN LEOPOLD SAID
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THAT YOU WERE
HIS COUSIN'S HUSBAND,
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BECAUSE I TOLD HIM
WE WERE OLD FRIENDS.
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ACQUAINTANCES.
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WE'RE LIKE --
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Allen: MIA WROTE ME SOME
FAN LETTERS OVER THE YEARS.
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THEN, ONCE, I HAD
A NEW YEAR'S EVE PARTY
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AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, "WHY
DON'T WE HAVE LUNCH SOMETIME?"
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02:00:54,100 --> 02:00:55,900
AND SHE SAID, "SURE."
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BOY, IF I HAD ONLY ACTED
THAT TIME, YOU KNOW,
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WHEN WERE AT THE BROOK
THAT NIGHT!
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YEAH.
IT JUST HAUNTS ME.
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YEAH, ME TOO.
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02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:04,100
YOU KNOW,
NOT A WEEK HAS GONE BY
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THAT I HAVEN'T DREAMT
ABOUT YOU.
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WE MADE A DATE, WE HAD LUNCH,
AND THEN WE STARTED GOING OUT.
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[ SNEEZE ]
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HEY, ARE YOU OKAY?
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Allen: EVENTUALLY,
WE STARTED GOING OUT
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IN A MORE SERIOUS WAY
AND THEN,
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I GOT TO KNOW HER
AS AN ACTRESS.
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WELL, YOU KNOW,
FOR A WOMAN,
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THE YEARS
SLIP AWAY QUICKLY.
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DON'T TELL ME
YOU'RE GETTING SCARED.
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MAYBE.
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BUT WHY?
I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
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YOU'RE SO BEAUTIFUL
AND CHARMING.
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YOU COULD GET ANY MAN
THAT YOU WANTED.
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NOT YOU.
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ME?
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I THINK, AMONGST ALL
THE LOVE AFFAIRS
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I WAS RUNNING THROUGH
IN THOSE DAYS,
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YOU WERE THE ONE PERSON
THAT COULD'VE STOPPED ME.
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Allen: SHE WAS
VERY NERVOUS
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WHEN WE FIRST STARTED
WORKING TOGETHER.
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SHE NEEDN'T HAVE BEEN
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AND IT WAS A PLEASURE
TO WORK WITH HER.
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SHE WAS, YOU KNOW,
ALWAYS EASY TO WORK WITH.
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IF YOU LUSTED
AFTER ME SO,
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WHY WEREN'T YOU ALSO
IN LOVE WITH ME?
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CAN THE TWO FEELINGS
REALLY BE SEPARATE?
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Feeney: MIA FARROW
BECAME HIS MUSE
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AND HE BEGAN TO SHOW US
A RANGE IN MIA FARROW
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THAT HAD BEEN DENIED US
BY, SAY,
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"ROSEMARY'S BABY"
OR "HURRICANE," YOU KNOW,
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JUST SIDES OF HER
WE WERE NOT BE ABLE TO SEE,
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AND WOODY ALLEN WAS ABLE
TO BRING HER OUT
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IN ALL HER RAINBOW
OF COLORS.
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AND THROUGH HER,
HE EXPLORED
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A NUMBER OF WONDERFUL MODES
OF FILMMAKING.
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AND, IN A WAY, BY SO DOING,
HE'S ALSO TESTING HIS OWN RANGE,
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HE'S FULFILLING EVERY KEY ON
THE PIANOBOARD THAT HE'S GOT.
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HE JUST RUNS THE SCALES
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IN HIS OWN TALENT
THROUGH THE '80s
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WITH MIA FARROW
AS HIS PARTNER.
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SHE WAS AN EXCELLENT ACTRESS
WITH A VERY BIG RANGE.
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YOU KNOW, SHE COULD PLAY
COMEDY AND BROAD COMEDY,
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SHE COULD PLAY SERIOUS
THINGS, AND I FELT
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NO ONE HAD REALLY
EXPLOITED HER MUCH
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ON THE SCREEN
AND SO I WROTE ROLES FOR HER
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AND SHE NEVER DISAPPOINTED,
SHE ALWAYS CAME THOUGH
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AND DID A TERRIFIC
JOB FOR ME.
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THAT'S WHAT "MUSE" IS,
YOU KNOW,
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THE MORE YOU UNDERSTAND
THE PERSON,
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THEN YOU CAN BRING OUT THESE
DIFFERENT QUALITIES IN THEM,
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YOU KNOW, AND HE DID IT
WITH MIA FOR YEARS.
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LIKE, WHO WOULD HAVE EVER
THOUGHT THAT MIA COULD BE
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THIS ACTRESS IN SOME
OF THESE FILMS?
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"BROADWAY DANNY ROSE" --
I MEAN,
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WHO WOULD'VE THOUGHT
THAT SHE COULD'VE PLAYED
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THESE DIFFERENT CHARACTERS
WITH THOSE ACCENTS?
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I MEAN,
YOU DIDN'T THINK OF MIA
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AS THAT KIND OF ACTRESS,
BUT HE KNEW HER.
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YOU KNOW,
I NEVER FEEL GUILTY.
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I JUST THINK YOU GOT TO
DO WHAT YOU GOT TO DO.
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YOU KNOW?
LIFE'S SHORT.
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YOU DON'T GET ANY MEDALS
FOR BEING A BOY SCOUT.
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Allen: WE ALWAYS ATE
UP AT RAO'S,
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AN ITALIAN RESTAURANT UPTOWN,
AND MRS. RAO, ANNIE RAO,
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WOULD, YOU KNOW, COME AND SIT
AT THE TABLE WITH US AND CHAT.
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SHE ALWAYS HAD THE HIGH BLONDE
HAIR AND SMOKED A CIGARETTE
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AND WORE THE SUNGLASSES
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AND SHE WAS A GREAT CHARACTER,
A WONDERFUL WOMAN.
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AND MIA SAID TO ME,
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"BOY, I'D LOVE TO PLAY
A WOMAN LIKE THAT SOMETIME.
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IT'D BE GREAT."
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AND THEN, WHEN I WAS GOING TO DO
"BROADWAY DANNY ROSE,"
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IT WAS PERFECT.
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JOHNNY'S ALL RIGHT --
HE WAS REALLY NICE TO ME
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WHEN MY MARRIAGE
FELL APART.
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YES? AND WHAT DID
YOUR HUSBAND DO?
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UM, A LITTLE
BOOKMAKING,
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SOME LOAN SHARKING,
EXTORTION, LIKE THAT.
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SO HE'S
A PROFESSIONAL MAN.
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02:04:12,400 --> 02:04:13,700
WHAT DID YOU DO,
YOU DIVORCED HIM
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OR YOU GOT
A SEPARATION, OR WHAT?
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UNH-UNH, SOME GUY
SHOT HIM IN THE EYES.
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REALLY,
HE'S BLIND? DEAD.
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HE'S DEAD,
OF COURSE,
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BECAUSE THE BULLETS
GO RIGHT THROUGH.
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Maltin: BY THIS TIME,
IF YOU WERE FOLLOWING WOODY,
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YOU NEVER KNEW WHAT
WAS GOING TO COME NEXT,
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WHAT TONE IT WOULD TAKE,
WHAT SHAPE IT WOULD TAKE.
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AND WHO WOULD THINK
THAT THE SAME MAN
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WHO MADE "BROADWAY DANNY ROSE"
WOULD ALSO GIVE US "ZELIG"?
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THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE
PRIVATE PERSON TO CELEBRITY
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IS THE THEME THAT HE INAUGURATES
IN "STARDUST MEMORIES,"
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BUT WHICH HE CONTINUES
IN "ZELIG."
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Narrator: LEONARD ZELIG
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CONTINUES
TO ASTOUND SCIENTISTS
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AT NEW YORK'S
MANHATTAN HOSPITAL,
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WHERE NUMEROUS TESTS
HAVE LED NOWHERE
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IN DETERMINING
THE NATURE
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OF THIS ASTONISHING
MANIFESTATION.
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02:04:57,000 --> 02:04:58,800
AND IT'S DONE IN MORE
RADICAL COMEDIC TERMS.
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THERE'S A STYLISTIC THING --
HE DISCOVERED
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02:05:00,500 --> 02:05:03,500
THIS OPTICAL PROCESS WHERE HE
COULD BLEED HIMSELF INTO
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ALL THESE ACTUAL PHOTOGRAPHS
OF WOODROW WILSON AND WHOMEVER.
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I WANTED TO DO IT
LIKE A REAL,
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ACTUAL DOCUMENTARY,
WHERE YOU JUST ABOUT
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COULDN'T TELL
THE DIFFERENCE.
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HIS TRANSFORMATION
INTO A RABBI
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IS SO REALISTIC THAT
CERTAIN FRENCHMEN SUGGEST
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02:05:17,000 --> 02:05:19,600
HE BE SENT
TO DEVIL'S ISLAND.
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02:05:19,600 --> 02:05:21,800
AND I THOUGHT THE THEME
OF THE CHARACTER
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WHO WAS ALWAYS
TRYING TO BE
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WHO HE WAS AROUND
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WAS A UNIVERSAL
PSYCHOLOGICAL THEME.
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AS THE MEN DISCUSS
THEIR OBESITY,
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AN INITIALLY RETICENT
ZELIG JOINS IN,
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SWELLING HIMSELF
TO A MIRACULOUS 250 POUNDS.
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NEXT, IN THE PRESENCE
OF TWO NEGRO MEN,
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ZELIG RAPIDLY
BECOMES ONE HIMSELF.
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WHAT WILL THEY
THINK OF NEXT?
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AND I FELT THAT
THAT, ULTIMATELY,
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WOULD LEAD TO FASCISM
BECAUSE
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YOU WOULD ALWAYS BE SAYING
WHAT THE CROWD WANTED TO HEAR
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02:05:54,300 --> 02:05:57,300
AND GIVING UP YOUR OWN
BELIEFS AND PERSONALITY.
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02:05:57,300 --> 02:06:02,100
Maltin: THERE IS LEONARD ZELIG,
SITTING NEXT TO ADOLF HITLER,
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AND THE MIA FARROW CHARACTER
SEES HIM BLENDING IN, AS USUAL,
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AND YET, IT'S HIM NOTICING HER
WAVING AT HIM
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02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:12,100
THAT SNAPS HIM
OUT OF THAT.
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SO, ULTIMATELY, IT'S LOVE THAT
BRINGS HIM BACK TO EARTH.
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Lauder: I LIKE "PURPLE ROSE
OF CAIRO" VERY MUCH.
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THE MIA FARROW CHARACTER
HAS A TERRIBLE EXISTENCE.
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HER HUSBAND, DANNY AIELLO,
IS AN ABUSER.
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THE ONLY RELIEF SHE GETS
IS MOVIES,
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SO SHE GOES TO SEE
THE SAME MOVIE
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OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
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02:06:32,500 --> 02:06:34,600
SHE CAN'T FIND ANY MEANING
IN HER DAY-TO-DAY EXISTENCE,
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BUT THE ESCAPISM THAT MOVIES
PROVIDE IS THE ONLY MEANING,
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OKAY, THAT'S IT,
BUT AT LEAST SHE HAS THIS.
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THIS IS SOMETHING
386
02:06:42,900 --> 02:06:44,200
THAT ENCOURAGES HER
TO HOPE.
387
02:06:44,600 --> 02:06:45,900
THINGS ARE BAD, BUT IT'S
GOING TO TURN OUT OKAY.
388
02:06:46,300 --> 02:06:48,900
I THINK THAT'S
SUCH A CLEVER FILM.
389
02:06:48,900 --> 02:06:51,500
I INTENDED IT,
YOU KNOW,
390
02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:55,500
ON A MUCH MORE PRETENTIOUS,
DEEP LEVEL, YOU KNOW,
391
02:06:55,500 --> 02:06:57,600
THAT PEOPLE ARE FACED,
IN LIFE,
392
02:06:58,100 --> 02:07:00,200
WITH CHOOSING BETWEEN
REALITY AND FANTASY
393
02:07:00,700 --> 02:07:04,100
AND IT'S VERY PLEASANT TO
CHOOSE FANTASY,
394
02:07:04,100 --> 02:07:06,300
BUT THAT WAY LIES MADNESS
395
02:07:06,300 --> 02:07:08,900
AND YOU'RE FORCED, FINALLY,
TO CHOOSE REALITY
396
02:07:09,300 --> 02:07:12,800
AND REALITY ALWAYS DISAPPOINTS,
ALWAYS HURTS YOU.
397
02:07:13,200 --> 02:07:16,700
YOU KNOW, THAT WAS WHAT MADE ME
DO THE FILM AND, OF COURSE,
398
02:07:16,700 --> 02:07:20,200
THE IDEA THAT SOMEONE
COMES OFF THE SCREEN,
399
02:07:20,600 --> 02:07:21,900
THAT WAS THE GIMMICK.
400
02:07:21,900 --> 02:07:23,200
YOU KNOW, I STILL CAN'T
GET OVER THE FACT THAT,
401
02:07:23,600 --> 02:07:25,800
24 HOURS AGO, I WAS
IN AN EGYPTIAN TOMB.
402
02:07:25,800 --> 02:07:29,300
I DIDN'T KNOW ANY
OF YOU WONDERFUL PEOPLE,
403
02:07:29,300 --> 02:07:31,500
AND HERE I AM NOW,
I'M ON THE VERGE OF
404
02:07:31,500 --> 02:07:34,900
A MADCAP
MANHATTAN WEEKEND.
405
02:07:35,400 --> 02:07:38,800
MY GOD, YOU MUST REALLY
LOVE THIS PICTURE.
406
02:07:38,800 --> 02:07:40,600
ME?
407
02:07:40,600 --> 02:07:43,200
YOU'VE BEEN HERE ALL DAY AND
I'VE SEEN YOU HERE TWICE BEFORE.
408
02:07:43,200 --> 02:07:44,500
YOU MEAN ME?
409
02:07:44,500 --> 02:07:45,800
YES, YOU, YOU!
410
02:07:46,200 --> 02:07:48,400
THIS IS THE FIFTH TIME
YOU'RE SEEING THIS.
411
02:07:48,400 --> 02:07:51,000
Henry, come here,
quickly.
412
02:07:51,400 --> 02:07:53,100
I GOT TO SPEAK TO YOU.
413
02:07:53,600 --> 02:07:54,900
[ Woman gasps ]
Man: OH, MY GOD!
414
02:07:55,300 --> 02:07:56,200
AAH!
415
02:07:56,200 --> 02:07:57,900
LISTEN, OLD SPORT,
YOU'RE ON THE WRONG SIDE.
416
02:07:57,900 --> 02:07:59,200
Rita: TOM,
GET BACK HERE!
417
02:07:59,200 --> 02:08:00,500
WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE
OF THE STORY!
418
02:08:00,500 --> 02:08:02,300
LEAVE ME ALONE. I'M GOING TO
HAVE A LOOK AROUND.
419
02:08:02,700 --> 02:08:03,600
YOU GO ON WITHOUT ME.
WHO ARE YOU?
420
02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:05,300
C-CECILIA.
421
02:08:05,300 --> 02:08:07,000
LET'S GET OUT OF HERE AND GO
SOMEWHERE WE CAN TALK.
422
02:08:07,000 --> 02:08:08,300
BUT YOU'RE
IN THE MOVIE.
423
02:08:08,800 --> 02:08:10,100
WRONG, CECILIA,
I'M FREE!
424
02:08:10,100 --> 02:08:11,800
AFTER 2,000
PERFORMANCES
425
02:08:11,800 --> 02:08:14,000
AND THE SAME MONOTONOUS
ROUTINE, I'M FREE!
426
02:08:14,000 --> 02:08:14,800
Henry: CALL
FATHER DONNELLY!
427
02:08:15,300 --> 02:08:17,400
TOM!
428
02:08:17,400 --> 02:08:20,000
OH, BOY!
429
02:08:20,000 --> 02:08:22,200
SO THAT'S WHAT
POPCORN TASTE LIKE.
430
02:08:22,200 --> 02:08:23,500
BEEN WATCHING PEOPLE
EAT IT
431
02:08:23,500 --> 02:08:25,700
FOR ALL THOSE
PERFORMANCES.
432
02:08:25,700 --> 02:08:29,100
Lax: THE ROLE OF THE HANDSOME
YOUNG GUY IN THE PIECE
433
02:08:29,100 --> 02:08:30,400
WAS PLAYED
BY JEFF DANIELS,
434
02:08:30,900 --> 02:08:32,600
WHO WAS REALLY
QUITE WONDERFUL IN IT.
435
02:08:32,600 --> 02:08:35,200
WOODY'S NOT AFRAID
TO CHANGE CAST MEMBERS
436
02:08:35,200 --> 02:08:37,000
AS HE GOES ALONG,
IF SOMETHING DOESN'T WORK OUT,
437
02:08:37,000 --> 02:08:39,600
AND THE BEST EXAMPLE
OF THIS IS
438
02:08:40,000 --> 02:08:41,300
MICHAEL KEATON IN
"PURPLE ROSE OF CAIRO."
439
02:08:41,700 --> 02:08:45,200
Taylor: HE GREATLY ADMIRED
MICHAEL KEATON AND STILL DOES,
440
02:08:45,600 --> 02:08:48,200
BUT NEVER TOOK THE TIME
TO MEET HIM AND THEN,
441
02:08:48,700 --> 02:08:51,300
ONCE HE WAS THERE, JUST FELT
HE WAS SO CONTEMPORARY
442
02:08:51,300 --> 02:08:53,900
FOR A MOVIE THAT TOOK PLACE
IN THE 1930s,
443
02:08:53,900 --> 02:08:55,200
THAT IT JUST DIDN'T
FEEL RIGHT.
444
02:08:55,200 --> 02:08:57,300
AND THERE HAVE BEEN
OTHER INSTANCES WHERE,
445
02:08:57,300 --> 02:08:59,500
FOR WHATEVER REASON,
AN ACTOR HASN'T WORKED OUT.
446
02:08:59,500 --> 02:09:01,700
I WOULD SAY THAT
THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN OFTEN,
447
02:09:02,100 --> 02:09:04,300
BUT, WHEN IT DOES,
448
02:09:04,300 --> 02:09:05,600
HE'S NOT AT ALL AVERSE
TO SAYING,
449
02:09:05,600 --> 02:09:07,300
"WE JUST NEED
TO START THIS OVER."
450
02:09:07,800 --> 02:09:09,500
HE SHOT
"SEPTEMBER" TWICE,
451
02:09:09,500 --> 02:09:13,400
WITH DIFFERENT CASTS,
AND THAT,
452
02:09:13,800 --> 02:09:17,700
I THINK HE WOULD SAY,
WAS A WRITING PROBLEM,
453
02:09:18,200 --> 02:09:20,800
HE JUST FELT
HE DIDN'T NAIL IT.
454
02:09:20,800 --> 02:09:22,100
Lax: SO HE COMPLETELY RECAST
THE MOVIE, FOR THE MOST PART,
455
02:09:22,500 --> 02:09:26,000
AND MOVED PEOPLE AROUND, AS IF
IT WERE A REPERTORY COMPANY.
456
02:09:26,000 --> 02:09:29,400
CASTING WAS JUST
457
02:09:29,400 --> 02:09:32,500
A PROCESS THAT HE HAD
VERY LITTLE PATIENCE FOR.
458
02:09:32,500 --> 02:09:36,400
YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST STARTED,
I NEVER EVEN MET THE ACTORS.
459
02:09:36,800 --> 02:09:42,000
I HAD MY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR
MEET THEM AND I WOULD SIT BACK
460
02:09:42,000 --> 02:09:44,200
IN THE CORNER OF THE ROOM
SOMEWHERE AND LOOK.
461
02:09:44,600 --> 02:09:47,700
AND ONLY OVER THE YEARS
DID I GRADUALLY START
462
02:09:47,700 --> 02:09:50,300
TO SPEAK TO THE ACTORS, AND I
HAVE NOTHING TO SAY TO THEM.
463
02:09:50,300 --> 02:09:52,400
WE USED TO HAVE THREE PEOPLE,
EVERY FIVE MINUTES,
464
02:09:52,400 --> 02:09:54,200
IN TO MEET HIM BECAUSE
465
02:09:54,200 --> 02:09:56,300
HE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO
MAKE MUCH CONVERSATION.
466
02:09:56,800 --> 02:09:59,400
THAT WAS VERY PAINFUL FOR HIM,
VERY HARD FOR HIM.
467
02:09:59,400 --> 02:10:01,100
FOR THE SMALLER ROLES,
468
02:10:01,100 --> 02:10:03,700
THE MEETINGS WERE VERY,
VERY QUICK.
469
02:10:03,700 --> 02:10:05,000
I ALWAYS FELT BAD
FOR THESE ACTORS
470
02:10:05,400 --> 02:10:06,700
THAT WOULD COME IN
TO THE OFFICE,
471
02:10:06,700 --> 02:10:09,300
THEY WERE BEING
SENT UP FOR A ROLE.
472
02:10:09,800 --> 02:10:11,100
THEY'D RING THE BELL,
I'D LET THEM IN,
473
02:10:11,100 --> 02:10:12,800
THEY'D WAIT FOR A SECOND,
AND WE'D GO IN
474
02:10:13,200 --> 02:10:16,300
AND I'D INTRODUCE THEM --
"THIS IS SO AND SO."
475
02:10:16,300 --> 02:10:18,000
AND THEY WOULD COME MARCHING
INTO THE OFFICE, LIKE,
476
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:20,200
EXPECTING, YOU KNOW,
A HALF-HOUR WITH MR. ALLEN.
477
02:10:20,600 --> 02:10:22,800
AND WOODY WOULD STAND UP
AND REMAIN STANDING AND SAY,
478
02:10:23,200 --> 02:10:25,800
"OH, HI," YOU KNOW, I JUST
WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT YOU
479
02:10:25,800 --> 02:10:27,600
"AND JULIET THOUGHT YOU
MIGHT BE RIGHT FOR SOMETHING
480
02:10:27,600 --> 02:10:30,200
AND, OKAY,
SO THAT'S IT."
481
02:10:30,200 --> 02:10:32,300
THE WHOLE THING IS AWKWARD.
THEY HAVE NOTHING TO SAY.
482
02:10:32,800 --> 02:10:37,500
I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY.
THEY'RE BEING LOOKED AT.
483
02:10:38,000 --> 02:10:43,200
THEY FEEL FAT, YOU KNOW.
[Laughs] IT'S TERRIBLE.
484
02:10:43,600 --> 02:10:45,800
AND HE WOULD SORT OF, LIKE,
SHAKE THEIR HANDS AND SAY,
485
02:10:45,800 --> 02:10:47,100
"THANK YOU FOR COMING"
486
02:10:47,500 --> 02:10:51,000
AND THEY'D BE READY TO SIT DOWN
AND THAT WAS IT.
487
02:10:51,000 --> 02:10:53,200
SO I'D WALK OUT AND THEY
WOULD ALWAYS LOOK AT ME
488
02:10:53,200 --> 02:10:55,300
AT THE END LIKE,
"ARE YOU KIDDING? IS THAT IT?"
489
02:10:55,300 --> 02:10:57,100
AND I'D SAY, "THAT'S IT."
490
02:10:57,500 --> 02:11:00,500
YOU KNOW,
10 SECONDS, SOMETIMES.
491
02:11:00,500 --> 02:11:03,100
AND, OF COURSE, WOODY FEELS
"BUT I'M DOING THEM A FAVOR.
492
02:11:03,100 --> 02:11:05,300
"THEY CAN GO ON WITH THEIR DAY.
THEY'VE OTHER THINGS TO DO.
493
02:11:05,700 --> 02:11:07,000
THEY DON'T WANT
TO HANG AROUND HERE."
494
02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:08,800
AND I KEEP SAYING,
"OH, YES, THEY DO,
495
02:11:08,800 --> 02:11:10,100
THEY'D LOVE NOTHING MORE."
496
02:11:10,100 --> 02:11:12,200
SOMETIMES,
FOR THE BIGGER ACTORS,
497
02:11:12,200 --> 02:11:13,500
THEY WERE JUST FLAT-OUT
OFFERED A ROLE.
498
02:11:13,500 --> 02:11:15,700
Banderas: HIS PRODUCTION
OFFICE CONNECTED
499
02:11:15,700 --> 02:11:17,400
WITH MY PEOPLE
IN LOS ANGELES
500
02:11:17,400 --> 02:11:19,600
AND THEY JUST OFFERED ME
THE PART.
501
02:11:19,600 --> 02:11:22,700
I GOT A CALL FROM MY AGENT,
ASKING ME IF I WAS AVAILABLE
502
02:11:22,700 --> 02:11:26,600
FOR A WOODY ALLEN MOVIE
AND I SAID,
503
02:11:26,600 --> 02:11:28,700
"YEAH.
YEAH, I'M AVAILABLE."
504
02:11:30,900 --> 02:11:33,900
WE HAVE THIS VERY ELABORATE
DROPOFF SYSTEM.
505
02:11:33,900 --> 02:11:36,100
THE MATERIAL DOES NOT
GO THROUGH THE AGENTS.
506
02:11:36,100 --> 02:11:39,100
THE MATERIAL GOES RIGHT,
DIRECTLY, TO THE ACTOR.
507
02:11:39,100 --> 02:11:40,400
OF COURSE,
IT WAS VERY SECRETIVE
508
02:11:40,900 --> 02:11:42,600
AND SO THE SCRIPT
WAS BROUGHT OVER.
509
02:11:42,600 --> 02:11:45,600
SOMEONE WHO FLEW
FROM NEW YORK WITH IT
510
02:11:45,600 --> 02:11:47,800
AND THEN DROVE TO MY HOUSE
IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA.
511
02:11:48,200 --> 02:11:50,800
THEN HE TOLD ME,
"YOU'RE GOING TO GET A SCRIPT.
512
02:11:50,800 --> 02:11:52,100
"IT'S GOING TO BE
HAND-DELIVERED.
513
02:11:52,100 --> 02:11:53,400
"YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT
AT 10:30
514
02:11:53,500 --> 02:11:55,200
AND YOU HAVE TO
RETURN IT BY 4:30."
515
02:11:55,200 --> 02:11:58,700
AHEM.
I GO, "ALL RIGHT."
516
02:11:59,100 --> 02:12:01,300
SOMEONE LITERALLY SITS
ON THE STOOP OF THEIR BUILDING,
517
02:12:01,300 --> 02:12:03,000
WAITING
'TIL THEY FINISH IT,
518
02:12:03,000 --> 02:12:06,900
OR, OCCASIONALLY,
LETS THEM KEEP IT OVERNIGHT.
519
02:12:06,900 --> 02:12:08,600
ALL I REMEMBER IS
THAT THE SCRIPT ARRIVED
520
02:12:08,600 --> 02:12:11,200
AND IT CAME HAND-DELIVERED
AND I HAD TO HAND IT BACK
521
02:12:11,200 --> 02:12:15,100
AND IT WAS ALL
A VERY SECRET PROCESS.
522
02:12:15,100 --> 02:12:16,400
HE ALWAYS INCLUDES
A HANDWRITTEN NOTE
523
02:12:16,900 --> 02:12:19,500
WITH THE SCRIPT
TO THE ACTOR.
524
02:12:19,500 --> 02:12:20,800
THE NEXT DAY,
I WAS IN THE OFFICE,
525
02:12:21,200 --> 02:12:24,200
THE SCRIPT WAS DELIVERED,
AND THERE'S A COVER LETTER.
526
02:12:24,200 --> 02:12:25,500
AND THERE WAS A LETTER
FROM WOODY.
527
02:12:25,500 --> 02:12:27,700
HE SENT ME AN E-MAIL.
528
02:12:28,200 --> 02:12:30,300
I GOT A LETTER.
A NOTE, FROM HIM.
529
02:12:30,300 --> 02:12:33,400
IT'S OBVIOUSLY WRITTEN
ON A TYPEWRITER.
530
02:12:33,400 --> 02:12:34,200
HANDWRITTEN.
531
02:12:34,700 --> 02:12:36,400
WITH THE ODD MISTAKE,
YOU KNOW, Xed OUT.
532
02:12:36,400 --> 02:12:38,600
I ACTUALLY PRINTED IT OUT
AND I PUT IT ON MY WALL.
533
02:12:38,600 --> 02:12:39,900
I WILL FRAME
THAT LETTER.
534
02:12:39,900 --> 02:12:41,600
I PROBABLY HAVE
THE LETTER IN A DRAWER.
535
02:12:41,600 --> 02:12:44,200
AND IT SAID THAT
"YOU MAY REMEMBER ME.
536
02:12:44,200 --> 02:12:46,400
YOU DID A MOVIE CALLED
'MELINDA AND MELINDA.'
537
02:12:46,400 --> 02:12:48,100
I WAS THE DIRECTOR."
[Laughs]
538
02:12:48,100 --> 02:12:50,300
"I PLAN ON SHOOTING
THIS FILM 'MATCH POINT'
539
02:12:50,300 --> 02:12:51,600
IN LONDON THIS SUMMER."
540
02:12:51,600 --> 02:12:52,900
"I HAVE THIS MOVIE
THAT I WROTE."
541
02:12:52,900 --> 02:12:55,000
"I THINK YOU'D BE
542
02:12:55,000 --> 02:12:56,800
REALLY GOOD
FOR THE PART OF BORIS."
543
02:12:57,200 --> 02:12:58,500
"I WOULD LOVE
FOR YOU TO PLAY
544
02:12:58,500 --> 02:12:59,800
THE PART
OF NOLA RICE."
545
02:12:59,800 --> 02:13:01,100
"I'D BE INTERESTED
IN YOU DOING IT.
546
02:13:01,600 --> 02:13:02,400
"YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT.
YOU MAY LIKE IT.
547
02:13:02,900 --> 02:13:04,200
IF YOU DON'T
LIKE IT, IT'S FINE."
548
02:13:04,200 --> 02:13:05,500
"I HOPE I CAN GET
TO WORK WITH YOU
549
02:13:05,500 --> 02:13:06,800
IN THIS LIFETIME."
550
02:13:07,200 --> 02:13:08,100
"IF YOU FEEL LIKE
THERE'S SOMETHING THERE
551
02:13:08,500 --> 02:13:11,100
THAT YOU WANT TO DO,
THAT WOULD BE GREAT."
552
02:13:11,100 --> 02:13:13,300
"FEEL FREE
TO MODIFY SOME
553
02:13:13,300 --> 02:13:15,000
OF THE LINES,
IF YOU FEEL LIKE."
554
02:13:15,000 --> 02:13:16,700
"IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE
LINES, THAT'S FINE WITH ME."
555
02:13:17,200 --> 02:13:20,200
"PLEASE READ IT AND I
THINK YOU HAVE SOMETHING
556
02:13:20,200 --> 02:13:21,900
TO CONTRIBUTE
TO THIS PART."
557
02:13:21,900 --> 02:13:24,500
I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE
I MADE THAT PART UP.
558
02:13:25,000 --> 02:13:27,600
AS A FAN OF HIS MOVIES,
EVERY TIME I GO,
559
02:13:28,000 --> 02:13:30,200
I SEE THAT THE CAST
ALWAYS WORKS.
560
02:13:30,200 --> 02:13:32,800
IT'S LIKE EVERYBODY'S PERFECT
FOR EACH CHARACTER
561
02:13:33,200 --> 02:13:36,300
AND HE CAN MAKE THOSE
DECISIONS IN FIVE SECONDS.
562
02:13:36,300 --> 02:13:38,900
JUST SAYING, "HI,
NICE TO MEET YOU" TO SOMEBODY,
563
02:13:38,900 --> 02:13:41,900
HE KNOWS IF THAT PERSON
IS RIGHT FOR THAT CHARACTER.
564
02:13:42,300 --> 02:13:47,100
WELL, THAT'S THE WHOLE SECRET,
IS IF YOU HIRE GREAT PEOPLE
565
02:13:47,100 --> 02:13:51,400
AND YOU DON'T MESS THEM UP
WITH A LOT OF ANALYSIS
566
02:13:51,400 --> 02:13:55,300
AND CONVERSATION
AND SPECULATION AND NONSENSE,
567
02:13:55,300 --> 02:13:59,200
IF YOU JUST GET OUT
OF THEIR WAY AND SHUT UP,
568
02:13:59,200 --> 02:14:02,300
THEY GIVE YOU THE PERFORMANCE
THAT HAS MADE THEM
569
02:14:02,300 --> 02:14:05,700
THE GREAT PERFORMER
THAT THEY ARE.
570
02:14:05,700 --> 02:14:07,900
ARE YOU ANGRY WITH ME?
571
02:14:07,900 --> 02:14:08,800
NO.
572
02:14:09,200 --> 02:14:11,000
DO YOU FEEL, UM --
573
02:14:11,000 --> 02:14:12,300
ARE YOU DISENCHANTED
WITH OUR MARRIAGE?
574
02:14:12,700 --> 02:14:14,000
I DIDN'T SAY THAT.
575
02:14:14,000 --> 02:14:15,300
ARE YOU IN LOVE
WITH SOMEONE ELSE?
576
02:14:15,700 --> 02:14:17,900
MY GOD! WHAT IS THIS,
THE GESTAPO?
577
02:14:17,900 --> 02:14:19,200
NO.
578
02:14:19,200 --> 02:14:21,400
WELL, WHAT? WHAT ARE
YOU NOT TELLING ME?
579
02:14:21,400 --> 02:14:23,100
WHAT KIND
OF INTERROGATION --
580
02:14:23,100 --> 02:14:25,300
SUPPOSING I SAID, "YES,
I AM DISENCHANTED,
581
02:14:25,300 --> 02:14:26,600
I AM IN LOVE
WITH SOMEONE ELSE"?
582
02:14:26,600 --> 02:14:27,900
ARE YOU?
583
02:14:28,300 --> 02:14:29,600
NO!
584
02:14:30,000 --> 02:14:31,800
Allen: I USED TO
ALWAYS WRITE
585
02:14:32,200 --> 02:14:33,900
FROM THE POINT OF VIEW
OF THE MALE
586
02:14:33,900 --> 02:14:37,400
AND ALWAYS A PARTICULAR
PERSPECTIVE,
587
02:14:37,800 --> 02:14:42,200
THE COMIC MALE,
THE WISECRACKING COMIC MALE,
588
02:14:42,200 --> 02:14:44,400
AND THEN
I MET DIANE KEATON,
589
02:14:44,400 --> 02:14:47,400
I GOT A DIFFERENT
PERSPECTIVE,
590
02:14:47,400 --> 02:14:49,600
I SAW A LOT OF THINGS
THROUGH HER EYES
591
02:14:50,100 --> 02:14:53,100
AND I STARTED WRITING
FOR WOMEN.
592
02:14:53,100 --> 02:14:55,700
AND ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT I GAINED WAS
593
02:14:55,700 --> 02:14:57,000
A FEMALE'S
PERSPECTIVE
594
02:14:57,000 --> 02:15:00,500
AND IT WAS, EVENTUALLY,
595
02:15:00,900 --> 02:15:03,500
MORE INTERESTING
TO ME
596
02:15:03,500 --> 02:15:07,000
THAN THE MALE
PERSPECTIVE
597
02:15:07,000 --> 02:15:08,300
AND I ATTRIBUTE THAT
TO MY EXPERIENCE WITH HER.
598
02:15:08,300 --> 02:15:10,500
Hannah: HOLLY --
I JUST WANT A SALAD.
599
02:15:10,500 --> 02:15:11,800
YOU REALLY THINK
I'M A LOSER, DON'T YOU?
600
02:15:12,200 --> 02:15:13,500
WHAT DO -- YOU'RE
BEING RIDICULOUS.
601
02:15:13,500 --> 02:15:14,800
Lee: YOU ARE, HOLLY.
STOP IT.
602
02:15:14,800 --> 02:15:16,600
YOU TREAT ME
LIKE A LOSER.
603
02:15:17,000 --> 02:15:17,900
HOW?
604
02:15:17,900 --> 02:15:19,600
YOU NEVER HAVE ANY FAITH
IN MY PLANS,
605
02:15:19,600 --> 02:15:21,300
YOU ALWAYS UNDERCUT
MY ENTHUSIASM.
606
02:15:21,300 --> 02:15:22,600
NOT SO, NO,
607
02:15:22,600 --> 02:15:23,900
I THINK I'VE BEEN
VERY SUPPORTIVE.
608
02:15:24,400 --> 02:15:27,000
I TRY TO GIVE YOU HONEST,
CONSTRUCTIVE ADVICE,
609
02:15:27,000 --> 02:15:28,700
I'M ALWAYS HAPPY
TO HELP YOU FINANCIALLY,
610
02:15:28,700 --> 02:15:30,000
I THINK I'VE GONE
OUT OF MY WAY
611
02:15:30,400 --> 02:15:32,600
TO INTRODUCE YOU
TO INTERESTING SINGLE MEN.
612
02:15:32,600 --> 02:15:33,900
Holly: LOSERS!
ALL LOSERS.
613
02:15:33,900 --> 02:15:35,200
YOU'RE
TOO DEMANDING!
614
02:15:35,600 --> 02:15:36,900
YOU KNOW, I COULD ALWAYS TELL
WHAT YOU THOUGHT OF ME
615
02:15:36,900 --> 02:15:38,200
BY THE TYPE OF MEN
YOU FIXED ME UP WITH.
616
02:15:38,700 --> 02:15:40,000
YOU'RE CRAZY!
THAT'S NOT TRUE!
617
02:15:40,000 --> 02:15:41,300
HEY, HANNAH,
I KNOW I'M MEDIOCRE.
618
02:15:41,700 --> 02:15:43,000
[Crying] OH, WILL YOU
STOP ATTACKING HANNAH?
619
02:15:43,000 --> 02:15:44,700
SHE'S GOING THROUGH A REALLY
ROUGH TIME RIGHT NOW.
620
02:15:44,700 --> 02:15:46,000
WHY ARE YOU SO UPSET?
621
02:15:46,500 --> 02:15:47,800
YOU KNOW, YOU'VE BEEN
PICKING ON HER
622
02:15:47,800 --> 02:15:49,100
EVER SINCE
SHE CAME IN HERE.
623
02:15:49,100 --> 02:15:50,400
NOW JUST LEAVE HER
ALONE FOR A WHILE.
624
02:15:50,400 --> 02:15:51,700
I'M JUST SUFFOCATING.
625
02:15:51,700 --> 02:15:53,900
Feeney: I THINK
"HANNAH AND HER SISTERS"
626
02:15:53,900 --> 02:15:55,200
IS THE MOVIE THAT PEOPLE
EXPECTED AFTER "MANHATTAN"
627
02:15:55,200 --> 02:15:57,800
AND WHEN HE SATISFIED THAT,
HE WAS BACK
628
02:15:57,800 --> 02:16:00,800
TO EVEN DEEPER STRENGTH
THAN HE EVER WAS BEFORE.
629
02:16:00,800 --> 02:16:03,400
NOW, HE'S IN THE BERGMAN
ZONE, QUITE LITERALLY.
630
02:16:03,400 --> 02:16:06,900
HE'S GOT MAX von SYDOW IN THERE,
BUT IN A VERY RELAXED WAY.
631
02:16:06,900 --> 02:16:08,600
THERE'S NOTHING IMITATIVE
OF BERGMAN.
632
02:16:08,600 --> 02:16:11,200
THEY'RE SIMPLY, YOU KNOW,
633
02:16:11,200 --> 02:16:13,800
DRINKING FROM BERGMAN'S CUP
AT BERGMAN'S DINNER TABLE, BUT,
634
02:16:13,800 --> 02:16:16,000
AT THE SAME TIME,
BRINGING WOODY ALLEN'S
635
02:16:16,400 --> 02:16:18,100
SENSIBILITY
TO THE PROCEEDINGS.
636
02:16:18,100 --> 02:16:19,400
BUT THE WORST ARE
637
02:16:19,400 --> 02:16:21,200
THE FUNDAMENTALIST
PREACHERS,
638
02:16:21,200 --> 02:16:23,400
THIRD-RATE CON MEN,
639
02:16:23,400 --> 02:16:25,100
TELLING THE POOR SUCKERS
THAT WATCH THEM
640
02:16:25,500 --> 02:16:26,800
THAT THEY SPEAK
FOR JESUS
641
02:16:26,800 --> 02:16:28,600
AND TO PLEASE
SEND IN MONEY.
642
02:16:29,000 --> 02:16:29,900
MONEY, MONEY, MONEY!
643
02:16:30,300 --> 02:16:32,900
IF JESUS CAME BACK
AND SAW
644
02:16:33,300 --> 02:16:35,100
WHAT'S GOING ON
IN HIS NAME,
645
02:16:35,500 --> 02:16:37,200
HE'D NEVER STOP
THROWING UP.
646
02:16:37,200 --> 02:16:39,000
Greenhut: MY FAVORITE IS
"HANNAH AND HER SISTERS."
647
02:16:39,000 --> 02:16:42,000
IT HAD ONE COMPONENT
WHICH I LOVE,
648
02:16:42,000 --> 02:16:43,700
WHICH WOODY LOATHES,
MUCH OF THE TIME,
649
02:16:43,700 --> 02:16:45,500
WHICH IS SOME SENTIMENT.
650
02:16:45,500 --> 02:16:49,400
Allen: IT'S ONLY OPTIMISTIC
IN THE SECTIONS THAT I FAILED.
651
02:16:49,400 --> 02:16:51,500
I MEAN, I WANTED IT TO BE
A MELANCHOLY FILM,
652
02:16:51,500 --> 02:16:54,100
FOR THE MOST PART,
BUT, FOR SOME REASON --
653
02:16:54,200 --> 02:16:57,600
INCOMPETENCE IN THE DIRECTING
OR THE WRITING OR SOMETHING --
654
02:16:57,600 --> 02:17:01,500
THE EMPHASIS SHIFTED SO THAT
IT WAS PERCEIVED BY AUDIENCES
655
02:17:02,000 --> 02:17:06,300
AS MORE UP AND OPTIMISTIC
THAN I HAD INTENDED.
656
02:17:06,300 --> 02:17:09,800
EARLY ON IN THE FILM,
THERE'S SOME SUSPICION
657
02:17:09,800 --> 02:17:11,100
HE HAS A BRAIN TUMOR.
658
02:17:11,400 --> 02:17:12,700
[ Thinking ]
IT'S OVER.
659
02:17:12,700 --> 02:17:16,200
I'M FACE-TO-FACE
WITH ETERNITY.
660
02:17:16,200 --> 02:17:19,600
NOT LATER, BUT NOW.
661
02:17:19,600 --> 02:17:21,400
I'M SO FRIGHTENED,
662
02:17:21,400 --> 02:17:27,000
I CAN'T MOVE
OR SPEAK OR BREATHE.
663
02:17:27,000 --> 02:17:28,300
WELL,
YOU'RE JUST FINE.
664
02:17:28,800 --> 02:17:30,500
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY
NOTHING HERE AT ALL.
665
02:17:30,900 --> 02:17:32,200
AND, FINALLY,
HE FINDS OUT HE'S OKAY
666
02:17:32,200 --> 02:17:34,000
AND HE COMES
OUT OF THE HOSPITAL
667
02:17:34,000 --> 02:17:35,300
AND HE'S JUMPING
THROUGH THE STREET
668
02:17:35,300 --> 02:17:37,900
AND THEN HE STOPS AND HE
REALIZES THAT, YOU KNOW,
669
02:17:37,900 --> 02:17:40,000
"I'M NOT GOING TO DIE
FROM THIS BRAIN TUMOR NOW,
670
02:17:40,500 --> 02:17:41,800
BUT I'M GOING TO DIE
SOMEDAY"
671
02:17:41,800 --> 02:17:44,400
AND THEN, HE GOES BACK
INTO A BLUE FUNK.
672
02:17:44,400 --> 02:17:47,800
AND THEN HE BEGINS TO LOOK
AROUND AT DIFFERENT RELIGIONS
673
02:17:47,800 --> 02:17:49,600
AND HE'S THINKING
OF BECOMING A CATHOLIC,
674
02:17:49,600 --> 02:17:52,200
SO HE GOES TO SEE A PRIEST,
THE PRIEST GIVES HIM SOME BOOKS.
675
02:17:59,500 --> 02:18:01,700
AND THEN WE GET A SCENE,
HE'S AT A HIGH MASS.
676
02:18:01,700 --> 02:18:04,300
HE'S WAY IN THE BACK,
HE'S THE OUTSIDER LOOKING IN,
677
02:18:04,300 --> 02:18:06,100
THE NONBELIEVER
LOOKING IN.
678
02:18:06,500 --> 02:18:08,700
THE CHARACTER WANTS TO BELIEVE,
BUT HE JUST CAN'T.
679
02:18:08,700 --> 02:18:10,000
MOM, COME OUT!
680
02:18:10,000 --> 02:18:12,100
OF COURSE THERE'S
A GOD, YOU IDIOT.
681
02:18:12,100 --> 02:18:13,400
YOU DON'T BELIEVE
IN GOD?
682
02:18:13,400 --> 02:18:15,200
BUT IF THERE'S
A GOD,
683
02:18:15,200 --> 02:18:16,900
THEN WHY IS THERE SO MUCH
EVIL IN THE WORLD?
684
02:18:16,900 --> 02:18:19,500
JUST ON A SIMPLISTIC LEVEL.
WHY WERE THERE NAZIS?
685
02:18:19,500 --> 02:18:21,700
TELL HIM, MAX.
686
02:18:21,700 --> 02:18:23,800
HOW THE HELL DO I KNOW
WHY THERE WERE NAZIS?
687
02:18:23,800 --> 02:18:25,100
I DON'T KNOW HOW
THE CAN OPENER WORKS.
688
02:18:25,600 --> 02:18:26,900
I DO THINK IT'S
ON HIS MIND.
689
02:18:26,900 --> 02:18:29,000
I DO THINK THAT HE THINKS
ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
690
02:18:29,000 --> 02:18:30,800
I THINK THAT, WHEN YOU'RE
EXTREMELY SENSITIVE,
691
02:18:30,800 --> 02:18:32,100
WHICH IS WHAT HE IS,
692
02:18:32,500 --> 02:18:37,700
YOU'RE VERY IN TUNE
WITH WHAT LIFE IS
693
02:18:37,700 --> 02:18:40,800
AND IT HAS TO END
AND IT CAN BE VERY CRUEL.
694
02:18:41,200 --> 02:18:44,200
AND I THINK THAT THESE ARE
THE ISSUES THAT HAUNT HIM.
695
02:18:44,200 --> 02:18:47,300
I DO BELIEVE THAT'S THE REASON
WHY IT'S A THEME IN HIS MOVIES,
696
02:18:47,300 --> 02:18:49,000
IS BECAUSE HE DOES THINK
ABOUT IT A LOT.
697
02:18:49,000 --> 02:18:52,500
WOODY HAD SAID, YOU KNOW,
MAKING A FILM PREOCCUPIES HIM
698
02:18:52,500 --> 02:18:54,200
AND SO HE DOESN'T HAVE TO
SPEND THE WHOLE DAY
699
02:18:54,600 --> 02:18:57,200
THINKING ABOUT
THE MEANING OF EXISTENCE,
700
02:18:57,700 --> 02:18:59,000
BUT HE SPENDS THE DAY
MAKING A FILM
701
02:18:59,000 --> 02:19:00,700
ABOUT THE MEANING
OF EXISTENCE.
702
02:19:00,700 --> 02:19:02,400
SO IT DOESN'T DISTRACT HIM,
IN THE USUAL SENSE,
703
02:19:02,400 --> 02:19:04,600
I MEAN, HE'S NOT OUT,
PLAYING GOLF OR PLAYING TENNIS,
704
02:19:05,000 --> 02:19:08,100
HE'S WORKING THESE THEMES
INTO HIS FILMS.
705
02:19:08,100 --> 02:19:09,400
THIS WOMAN'S
GOING TO DESTROY
706
02:19:09,400 --> 02:19:10,700
EVERYTHING
I'VE BUILT.
707
02:19:10,700 --> 02:19:12,900
THAT'S WHAT
I'M SAYING, JUDAH.
708
02:19:13,300 --> 02:19:14,600
IF THE WOMAN
WON'T LISTEN TO REASON,
709
02:19:14,600 --> 02:19:15,900
THEN YOU GO ON
TO THE NEXT STEP.
710
02:19:16,300 --> 02:19:18,500
WHAT, THREATS,
VIOLENCE?
711
02:19:18,500 --> 02:19:19,800
WHAT ARE WE TALKING
ABOUT, HERE?
712
02:19:20,200 --> 02:19:21,500
SHE CAN BE
GOTTEN RID OF.
713
02:19:21,500 --> 02:19:22,800
I MEAN, I KNOW
A LOT OF PEOPLE.
714
02:19:23,300 --> 02:19:24,600
MONEY'LL BUY
WHATEVER'S NECESSARY.
715
02:19:24,600 --> 02:19:25,900
I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO
COMMENT ON THAT.
716
02:19:25,900 --> 02:19:27,200
THAT'S MINDBOGGLING.
717
02:19:27,200 --> 02:19:28,900
JUDAH ROSENTHAL,
THE CHARACTER I PLAYED
718
02:19:28,900 --> 02:19:31,100
IN "CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS,"
IS A PILLAR OF THE COMMUNITY,
719
02:19:31,500 --> 02:19:33,200
HE'S GOT A FAMILY,
HE'S RESPECTED,
720
02:19:33,200 --> 02:19:35,000
BUT HE HAS AN AFFAIR
721
02:19:35,400 --> 02:19:37,100
WITH THIS STEWARDESS
722
02:19:37,600 --> 02:19:41,100
PLAYED BY
ANJELICA HUSTON
723
02:19:41,100 --> 02:19:43,700
AND SHE BECOMES
A LOOSE CANNON IN HIS LIFE.
724
02:19:43,700 --> 02:19:45,000
YOU TOLD ME,
OVER AND OVER AGAIN,
725
02:19:45,000 --> 02:19:46,700
YOU'D LEAVE MIRIAM!
WE MADE PLANS!
726
02:19:47,100 --> 02:19:48,400
I DIDN'T!
YOU DID!
727
02:19:48,400 --> 02:19:49,700
I GAVE UP THINGS FOR YOU,
BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES!
728
02:19:49,700 --> 02:19:51,000
OH, PIPE DREAMS!
729
02:19:51,000 --> 02:19:52,300
HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW
TO HANDLE IT
730
02:19:52,300 --> 02:19:54,900
AND HE CALLS HIS BROTHER,
731
02:19:54,900 --> 02:19:56,200
WHO'S A LITTLE
ON THE SHADY SIDE,
732
02:19:56,200 --> 02:19:58,400
AND HE RESOLVES IT
733
02:19:58,400 --> 02:20:01,900
IN A WAY THAT IS
HORRENDOUS, REALLY.
734
02:20:04,900 --> 02:20:07,500
WHEN I SEE HER,
735
02:20:07,500 --> 02:20:09,200
I'M OVERWHELMED
BY IT.
736
02:20:09,200 --> 02:20:12,300
HE HAS A GREAT DEAL OF
DIFFICULTY LIVING WITH IT
737
02:20:12,300 --> 02:20:15,800
AND FLASHES BACK
ON A SEDER,
738
02:20:15,800 --> 02:20:18,800
PASSOVER DINNER,
THAT HE REMEMBERED,
739
02:20:18,800 --> 02:20:20,500
WHERE A LOT OF RELIGION
AND PHILOSOPHY IS DISCUSSED.
740
02:20:20,500 --> 02:20:23,100
Man: WHAT ARE YOU
SAYING, MAY,
741
02:20:23,600 --> 02:20:25,300
THERE'S NO MORALITY,
742
02:20:25,300 --> 02:20:27,000
ANYWHERE
IN THE WHOLE WORLD?
743
02:20:27,000 --> 02:20:29,200
LISTEN, FOR THOSE WHO WANT
MORALITY, THERE'S MORALITY.
744
02:20:29,200 --> 02:20:32,700
NOTHING'S HANDED DOWN
IN STONE.
745
02:20:32,700 --> 02:20:34,400
SOL'S KIND OF FAITH
IS A GIFT.
746
02:20:34,400 --> 02:20:37,000
IT'S LIKE AN EAR FOR MUSIC
OR THE TALENT TO DRAW.
747
02:20:37,000 --> 02:20:38,700
HE BELIEVES
AND YOU CAN USE LOGIC
748
02:20:38,700 --> 02:20:41,300
ON HIM ALL DAY LONG
AND HE STILL BELIEVES.
749
02:20:41,300 --> 02:20:43,900
MUST EVERYTHING BE
LOGICAL?
750
02:20:43,900 --> 02:20:47,000
AND IF A MAN COMMITS
A CRIME, IF HE --
751
02:20:47,400 --> 02:20:48,700
IF HE KILLS?
752
02:20:48,700 --> 02:20:51,800
THEN, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER,
HE WILL BE PUNISHED.
753
02:20:51,800 --> 02:20:53,500
IF HE'S CAUGHT, SOL.
754
02:20:53,500 --> 02:20:55,200
NO, NO, NO! WHETHER
IT'S THE OLD TESTAMENT
755
02:20:55,200 --> 02:20:57,800
OR SHAKESPEARE,
MURDER WILL OUT.
756
02:20:57,800 --> 02:21:00,000
WHO SAID ANYTHING
ABOUT MURDER?
757
02:21:00,400 --> 02:21:01,700
YOU DID.
758
02:21:01,700 --> 02:21:05,600
DID I?
759
02:21:05,600 --> 02:21:07,400
WOODY WALKS A REAL TIGHTROPE
IN "CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS,"
760
02:21:07,400 --> 02:21:09,100
BECAUSE HE'S TELLING,
ESSENTIALLY,
761
02:21:09,100 --> 02:21:10,800
A VERY SERIOUS STORY,
762
02:21:10,800 --> 02:21:14,300
YET HE KNOWS TO COUNTERBALANCE
IT WITH A LIGHTER STORY,
763
02:21:14,300 --> 02:21:16,900
INVOLVING HIM AND MIA FARROW
AND ALAN ALDA.
764
02:21:17,300 --> 02:21:18,600
AND IT'S THAT
VERY DEFT COMBINATION
765
02:21:19,100 --> 02:21:20,800
THAT MAKES
THE MOVIE WORK.
766
02:21:20,800 --> 02:21:23,000
IT'S AMAZING --
I COULDN'T GRADUATE
767
02:21:23,000 --> 02:21:25,200
AND THE SAME SCHOOL
NOW TEACHES A COURSE
768
02:21:25,200 --> 02:21:27,800
IN EXISTENTIAL MOTIFS
IN MY SITUATION COMEDIES.
769
02:21:27,800 --> 02:21:28,600
Halley: REALLY?
770
02:21:29,100 --> 02:21:30,800
YEAH.
771
02:21:30,800 --> 02:21:32,100
I COULD'VE DONE
THE WHOLE PICTURE
772
02:21:32,100 --> 02:21:33,800
JUST AS THE MURDER STORY
773
02:21:34,300 --> 02:21:37,300
AND VERY OFTEN REGRETTED
THAT I DIDN'T
774
02:21:37,700 --> 02:21:41,200
BECAUSE I FOUND MARTY LANDAU'S
STORY SO COMPELLING
775
02:21:41,200 --> 02:21:44,200
AND SO INTERESTING
AND MINE SO UNINTERESTING.
776
02:21:44,700 --> 02:21:46,000
AND THEN IT OCCURRED
TO ME THAT,
777
02:21:46,000 --> 02:21:52,500
IF MY CHARACTER MADE THE FILM
ABOUT ALAN ALDA,
778
02:21:52,500 --> 02:21:54,600
IT TIED THE WHOLE THING UP
BECAUSE IT WAS A FUNNY IDEA,
779
02:21:54,700 --> 02:21:59,400
THAT I WAS FORCED TO MAKE
THIS AGGRANDIZING DOCUMENTARY
780
02:21:59,400 --> 02:22:02,900
ABOUT THIS GUY
THAT I COULDN'T STAND.
781
02:22:02,900 --> 02:22:05,100
THE THING TO REMEMBER
ABOUT COMEDY IS
782
02:22:05,100 --> 02:22:08,100
IF IT BENDS,
IT'S FUNNY;
783
02:22:08,100 --> 02:22:09,800
IF IT BREAKS,
IT'S NOT FUNNY.
784
02:22:09,800 --> 02:22:13,300
SO YOU GOT TO GET BACK FROM
THE PAIN, YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN?
785
02:22:13,700 --> 02:22:15,500
ISSUES OF WHAT LIFE IS ABOUT
AND WHY WE'RE HERE
786
02:22:15,500 --> 02:22:16,800
AND WHY IT'S SO PAINFUL
787
02:22:17,200 --> 02:22:19,400
AND RELATIONSHIPS
BETWEEN THE HUMAN BEING
788
02:22:19,800 --> 02:22:22,400
AND HIS EXISTENCE
AND HUMAN LONELINESS,
789
02:22:22,800 --> 02:22:24,100
THAT NEVER GETS RESOLVED
790
02:22:24,100 --> 02:22:28,000
AND SO IT'S OF CONSTANT
INTEREST TO ME.
791
02:22:28,500 --> 02:22:30,200
HI, CLIFF.
CLIFF! HELLO.
792
02:22:30,200 --> 02:22:32,000
Allen: AND I CAN SEE,
IF I LOOK BACK ON MY WORK,
793
02:22:32,400 --> 02:22:35,900
I SEE SOME OF THOSE THEMES
CREEP IN ALL THE TIME.
794
02:22:35,900 --> 02:22:38,500
I WANTED TO GIVE YOU
THIS LETTER BACK.
795
02:22:38,500 --> 02:22:41,500
IT'S MY ONE
LOVE LETTER.
796
02:22:41,500 --> 02:22:45,400
I'M CURSED WITH
THE CLOWN'S APPROACH TO IT
797
02:22:45,400 --> 02:22:48,000
AND I ALWAYS HAVE TO
APPROACH IT IN A COMIC WAY.
798
02:22:48,000 --> 02:22:52,300
I PLAGIARIZED MOST
OF IT FROM JAMES JOYCE.
799
02:22:52,300 --> 02:22:54,500
YOU PROBABLY
WONDERED
800
02:22:54,900 --> 02:22:57,500
WHY ALL THE REFERENCES
TO DUBLIN.
801
02:22:57,500 --> 02:22:59,300
I WISH I HAD BEEN BORN
802
02:22:59,300 --> 02:23:03,600
A GIFTED AND GREAT TRAGEDIAN,
BUT I WASN'T.
803
02:23:04,100 --> 02:23:07,100
WHAT ARE YOUR VIEWS
ON DIVINE MATTERS?
804
02:23:07,100 --> 02:23:10,600
EXCUSE ME, ME?
805
02:23:10,600 --> 02:23:14,000
I'M ASKING YOU
IF YOU BELIEVE IN GOD.
806
02:23:14,000 --> 02:23:15,800
IT'S INCREDIBLE, THAT'S
THE THIRD TIME TONIGHT
807
02:23:15,800 --> 02:23:18,400
SOMEBODY ASKED ME THAT
EXACT SAME QUESTION.
808
02:23:18,400 --> 02:23:19,700
YOU KNOW,
I WOULD LOVE TO,
809
02:23:20,100 --> 02:23:21,400
BELIEVE ME, I KNOW I
WOULD BE MUCH HAPPIER.
810
02:23:21,800 --> 02:23:23,100
YEAH,
BUT YOU CAN'T.
811
02:23:23,100 --> 02:23:24,400
I CAN'T, NO,
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW --
812
02:23:24,900 --> 02:23:26,200
YOU DOUBT HIS EXISTENCE
AND YOU CAN'T MAKE
813
02:23:26,200 --> 02:23:27,500
THE LEAP OF FAITH
NECESSARY.
814
02:23:27,500 --> 02:23:29,200
LISTEN, I CAN'T MAKE THE
LEAP OF FAITH NECESSARY
815
02:23:29,600 --> 02:23:30,900
TO BELIEVE
IN MY OWN EXISTENCE.
816
02:23:30,900 --> 02:23:32,200
Woman: HERE'S
YOUR DRINK, KLEINMAN.
817
02:23:32,700 --> 02:23:34,000
THAT'S FINE,
THAT'S TRICKY.
818
02:23:34,000 --> 02:23:35,700
YOU KEEP MAKING JOKES
UNTIL THE MOMENT COMES
819
02:23:35,700 --> 02:23:37,500
AND YOU'VE REALLY
GOT TO FACE DEATH.
820
02:23:37,500 --> 02:23:40,500
WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS
ON SUCH A MORBID SUBJECT?
821
02:23:40,500 --> 02:23:42,700
I JUST, YOU KNOW,
THAT'S THE FUTURE.
822
02:23:42,700 --> 02:23:44,000
Woman: IF I THOUGHT
THAT THERE WAS NOTHING
823
02:23:44,400 --> 02:23:46,100
EXCEPT THIS,
I'D KILL MYSELF.
824
02:23:46,600 --> 02:23:47,900
I'VE THOUGHT OF IT.
825
02:23:47,900 --> 02:23:50,500
BELIEVE ME,
THERE HAVE BEEN MANY TIMES
826
02:23:50,500 --> 02:23:51,800
WHEN MY BRAIN HAS SAID
"WHY NOT?"
827
02:23:52,200 --> 02:23:56,100
I MEAN, THERE'S
NO POINT TO ANYTHING.
828
02:23:56,100 --> 02:24:02,600
BUT, SOMEHOW, MY BLOOD
ALWAYS SAID "LIVE, LIVE,"
829
02:24:02,600 --> 02:24:05,200
AND I ALWAYS LISTEN
TO MY BLOOD.
830
02:24:05,200 --> 02:24:07,400
Cusack: WOODY ALLEN,
831
02:24:07,400 --> 02:24:11,300
HE'S ALWAYS SWIMMING AROUND
THE SAME PHILOSOPHICAL ISSUES.
832
02:24:11,300 --> 02:24:13,000
THERE'S STILL THAT THING
YOU CAN DO WITH HIS FILMS
833
02:24:13,500 --> 02:24:15,200
WHERE THEY'LL GET YOU
THINKING AND TALKING
834
02:24:15,200 --> 02:24:17,400
OR THEY'LL SPUR SOMETHING
IN YOU THAT,
835
02:24:17,800 --> 02:24:19,100
YOU KNOW,
IT'S GOOD MEDICINE.
836
02:24:19,100 --> 02:24:20,800
I THINK THAT WOODY ALLEN
ASKS THESE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS,
837
02:24:21,300 --> 02:24:22,600
"IS THERE A GOD?
ISN'T THERE A GOD?
838
02:24:23,000 --> 02:24:24,300
IS THERE LIFE
BEYOND THE GRAVE?"
839
02:24:24,300 --> 02:24:26,900
MAKES HIM UNIQUE AMONG
CONTEMPORARY FILMMAKERS,
840
02:24:26,900 --> 02:24:28,600
BUT ALSO MAKES HIM UNIQUE
841
02:24:28,600 --> 02:24:30,800
IN THE HISTORY
OF AMERICAN CINEMA.
842
02:24:30,800 --> 02:24:32,100
THESE ARE
THE TWO KEY QUESTIONS
843
02:24:32,500 --> 02:24:33,800
AND HE JUST KEEPS
HAMMERING AWAY AT THEM.
844
02:24:33,800 --> 02:24:35,100
YOU KNOW WHO HAS THESE
THOUGHTS ALL THE TIME?
845
02:24:35,100 --> 02:24:36,400
IS SCHULTZ THE TAILOR.
846
02:24:36,900 --> 02:24:38,600
HE THINKS THAT NOTHING
IS REAL AT ALL
847
02:24:39,000 --> 02:24:40,300
AND THAT EVERYTHING
EXISTS ONLY
848
02:24:40,800 --> 02:24:42,100
IN THE DREAM
OF A DOG.
849
02:24:42,100 --> 02:24:45,100
BUT THIS IS REAL,
ISN'T IT?
850
02:24:45,100 --> 02:24:47,300
AND BEAUTIFUL.
851
02:24:47,300 --> 02:24:49,900
Lax: SO WOODY AND MIA HAD
THIS KIND OF IDYLLIC LIFE --
852
02:24:49,900 --> 02:24:52,100
CERTAINLY,
IN THE PUBLIC MIND.
853
02:24:52,100 --> 02:24:53,400
HERE WERE TWO
ACCOMPLISHED ARTISTS,
854
02:24:53,800 --> 02:24:56,000
THEY HAD THIS STRANGE
RELATIONSHIP
855
02:24:56,000 --> 02:24:58,600
WHERE HE LIVED IN HIS PLACE,
SHE LIVED IN HER PLACE,
856
02:24:58,600 --> 02:25:01,200
BUT SHE WAS IN ALL HIS MOVIES
AND HE WAS THERE EVERY DAY
857
02:25:01,200 --> 02:25:03,300
AND THEN THEY ADOPTED A DAUGHTER
AND THEN THEY HAD A SON
858
02:25:03,300 --> 02:25:05,500
AND IT SEEMED KIND OF
THE PERFECT THING.
859
02:25:05,500 --> 02:25:07,200
YOU KNOW, THEY'D TALK
ABOUT HOW THEY COULD EACH GO
860
02:25:07,700 --> 02:25:09,000
OUT THEIR WINDOWS
OR THEIR BALCONIES
861
02:25:09,000 --> 02:25:11,100
AND WAVE AT EACH OTHER
ACROSS THE PARK
862
02:25:11,600 --> 02:25:12,900
AND THIS CAME
TO A CRASHING END
863
02:25:13,300 --> 02:25:15,900
DURING THE FILMING OF
"HUSBANDS AND WIVES."
864
02:25:16,400 --> 02:25:22,000
THINGS FELL APART AT THE VERY
END OF THE SHOOTING.
865
02:25:22,000 --> 02:25:26,800
REALLY, THERE MAY HAVE BEEN TWO
OR THREE DAYS LEFT OF SHOOTING.
866
02:25:27,200 --> 02:25:28,900
SHE MUST HAVE CALLED HIM
867
02:25:28,900 --> 02:25:31,100
AND I REMEMBER HIM
ANSWERING THE PHONE
868
02:25:31,100 --> 02:25:35,000
BECAUSE WE WERE, LIKE, WAITING
FOR HIM TO SHOOT THE SEQUENCE
869
02:25:35,000 --> 02:25:38,900
AND I COULD TELL SOMETHING
DISTURBING WAS HAPPENING
870
02:25:39,300 --> 02:25:41,500
ON THE OTHER END
OF THIS PHONE CALL.
871
02:25:41,500 --> 02:25:44,500
MIA DISCOVERED THAT WOODY
WAS HAVING THIS AFFAIR
872
02:25:45,000 --> 02:25:48,000
WITH ONE OF HER
ADOPTED KIDS.
873
02:25:48,000 --> 02:25:49,300
MIA HAD GONE OVER TO WOODY'S
APARTMENT FOR SOMETHING AND,
874
02:25:49,300 --> 02:25:52,400
ON A MANTELPIECE
IN A ROOM,
875
02:25:52,400 --> 02:25:56,700
DISCOVERED SOME NUDE POLAROIDS
OF HER ADOPTED DAUGHTER SOON-YI.
876
02:25:56,700 --> 02:25:58,000
IT TOOK ME
877
02:25:58,400 --> 02:26:01,500
TWO OR THREE DAYS
TO CONVINCE MIA
878
02:26:01,500 --> 02:26:05,400
TO COME BACK TO WORK
AND FINISH THE FILM
879
02:26:05,400 --> 02:26:08,400
BECAUSE HER REACTION WAS
"THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO WAY
880
02:26:08,400 --> 02:26:11,000
I COULD SEE THIS PERSON
ANYMORE."
881
02:26:11,000 --> 02:26:12,300
AND, YET, THEY HAD TO,
IN THE MIDST
882
02:26:12,700 --> 02:26:14,500
OF THIS TERRIBLE EMOTIONAL
THING FOR BOTH OF THEM,
883
02:26:14,900 --> 02:26:17,900
BEHAVE IN A PROFESSIONAL
MANNER TO FINISH THE WORK.
884
02:26:18,400 --> 02:26:22,700
SO SHE,
LIKE A TROOPER,
885
02:26:22,700 --> 02:26:24,500
CAME AND FINISHED
HER JOB.
886
02:26:24,500 --> 02:26:26,200
WE WERE GOING TO
THE FACULTY DINNER --
887
02:26:26,200 --> 02:26:27,900
AND I'LL NEVER
FORGET THIS --
888
02:26:28,400 --> 02:26:29,700
AROUND FIFTH AVENUE
AND IT WAS JUST
889
02:26:29,700 --> 02:26:31,800
AN ICY BLACK NIGHT,
WE WERE WALKING DOWNTOWN.
890
02:26:32,300 --> 02:26:33,600
REMEMBER THAT?
AND THEN, SUDDENLY,
891
02:26:33,600 --> 02:26:34,900
WE DECIDED NOT TO GO
TO THE DINNER,
892
02:26:35,300 --> 02:26:36,600
JUST SAID,
"THE HELL WITH IT."
893
02:26:36,600 --> 02:26:37,900
IT WAS JUST SUCH
A BEAUTIFUL NIGHT.
894
02:26:37,900 --> 02:26:39,200
WE WALKED INTO
CENTRAL PARK.
895
02:26:39,200 --> 02:26:41,400
IT WAS, YOU KNOW,
SO SNOWY THAT NIGHT.
896
02:26:41,400 --> 02:26:42,700
I REMEMBER
HOW COLD IT WAS.
897
02:26:42,700 --> 02:26:44,000
WE COULD SEE
EVERY STAR.
898
02:26:44,400 --> 02:26:46,600
YOU WERE SO BEAUTIFUL
IN THAT BLACK DRESS.
899
02:26:47,000 --> 02:26:48,300
REALLY -- MMM.
900
02:26:48,700 --> 02:26:50,000
DON'T DO THAT.
901
02:26:50,000 --> 02:26:53,100
WHY NOT?
902
02:26:53,500 --> 02:26:56,100
BECAUSE IT'S OVER
AND WE BOTH KNOW IT.
903
02:26:56,100 --> 02:26:57,900
Brickman: WHEN THE GREAT
COSMIC RIFT OCCURRED,
904
02:26:58,300 --> 02:27:00,500
YOU KNOW,
ACROSS THE PARK
905
02:27:00,900 --> 02:27:02,200
WOODY WAS THE ANTICHRIST
906
02:27:02,200 --> 02:27:06,100
ON THE FRONT PAGE OF
THE NEW YORK POST EVERY DAY.
907
02:27:11,300 --> 02:27:13,500
Lax: THEIR LIFE BLEW UP
AND THIS JUST BECAME FODDER
908
02:27:13,500 --> 02:27:15,600
FOR THE GOSSIP MAGAZINES
909
02:27:15,600 --> 02:27:19,500
AND FOR TELEVISION
AND FOR NEWSPAPERS.
910
02:27:20,000 --> 02:27:21,300
IT WAS INTENSELY COVERED.
911
02:27:21,300 --> 02:27:23,400
THE 12-YEAR RELATIONSHIP
OF WOODY ALLEN
912
02:27:23,900 --> 02:27:25,600
AND MIA FARROW
HAS COME TO A BITTER END.
913
02:27:25,600 --> 02:27:27,800
DIRECTOR WOODY ALLEN
HAS CONFIRMED HE IS
914
02:27:27,800 --> 02:27:30,000
IN LOVE WITH MIA FARROW'S
ADOPTED DAUGHTER.
915
02:27:30,400 --> 02:27:33,000
THE ACRIMONIOUS BREAKUP
CAUSED BY ALLEN'S AFFAIR
916
02:27:33,000 --> 02:27:35,200
WITH FARROW'S ADOPTED
DAUGHTER SOON-YI.
917
02:27:35,600 --> 02:27:37,800
[ SPEAKING
FRENCH ]
918
02:27:37,800 --> 02:27:39,900
Lax: AND WHEN IT BECAME
A CUSTODY BATTLE BETWEEN THEM,
919
02:27:39,900 --> 02:27:43,800
IT WAS ALMOST LURID,
IN THE WAY THAT IT WAS HANDLED.
920
02:27:43,800 --> 02:27:46,400
THERE WAS NOTHING TOO SMALL
THAT WASN'T SCOOPED UP.
921
02:27:46,400 --> 02:27:48,600
WOODY ALLEN AND MIA FARROW
HAVE A DATE TOMORROW...
922
02:27:49,000 --> 02:27:49,900
IN COURT.
923
02:27:50,300 --> 02:27:51,600
PEOPLE EVERYWHERE
IN THE COUNTRY
924
02:27:51,600 --> 02:27:53,400
ARE TALKING ABOUT AN UGLY
CHILD CUSTODY BATTLE.
925
02:27:53,400 --> 02:27:55,100
THE MUD
THICKENED TODAY
926
02:27:55,500 --> 02:27:56,400
IN THE CHILD
CUSTODY BATTLE
927
02:27:56,800 --> 02:27:58,600
BETWEEN WOODY ALLEN
AND ACTRESS MIA FARROW.
928
02:27:58,600 --> 02:28:00,300
THAT BITTER BATTLE
BETWEEN WOODY ALLEN
929
02:28:00,300 --> 02:28:02,100
AND MIA FARROW
OVER VISITATION
930
02:28:02,500 --> 02:28:03,800
AND CUSTODY RIGHTS
TO THEIR CHILDREN
931
02:28:04,200 --> 02:28:05,500
HEATED UP AGAIN
TODAY.
932
02:28:05,500 --> 02:28:07,300
HIS BREAKUP WITH LONGTIME
COMPANION MIA FARROW
933
02:28:07,300 --> 02:28:09,400
AND THEIR SUBSEQUENT FIGHT
OVER CHILD CUSTODY
934
02:28:09,400 --> 02:28:14,200
HAS TURNED HIS PRIVATE LIFE
INTO A PUBLIC SOAP OPERA.
935
02:28:14,200 --> 02:28:15,500
BELIEVE IT OR NOT,
I DIDN'T THINK
936
02:28:15,500 --> 02:28:19,800
I WAS THAT FAMOUS,
TO WARRANT SUCH COVERAGE.
937
02:28:19,800 --> 02:28:21,100
I WAS ON MAGAZINE COVERS.
938
02:28:21,600 --> 02:28:23,300
I'M THINKING,
"YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING.
939
02:28:23,300 --> 02:28:27,600
I'M NOT THAT BIG A DEAL,
TO WARRANT THIS INTEREST."
940
02:28:27,600 --> 02:28:31,100
BUT, APPARENTLY,
IT WAS A GOOD, JUICY STORY,
941
02:28:31,100 --> 02:28:34,100
A VERY JUICY STORY
AND, YOU KNOW,
942
02:28:34,600 --> 02:28:39,400
IT TOOK A LITTLE EDGE
OFF MY NATURAL BLANDNESS.
943
02:28:39,400 --> 02:28:42,000
YOU REALIZE HOW THESE
CELEBRITY CASES COME TO PLAY,
944
02:28:42,400 --> 02:28:43,700
THAT NOTHING CAN BE MORE
IMPORTANT IN THE COUNTRY
945
02:28:43,700 --> 02:28:46,700
AT THAT MOMENT THAN WHATEVER
CELEBRITY CASE IS PLAYING
946
02:28:46,700 --> 02:28:50,200
AND IT WILL LAST UNTIL
THE NEXT ONE COMES ALONG.
947
02:28:50,600 --> 02:28:52,800
A JUDGE HAS REFUSED
WOODY ALLEN'S REQUEST
948
02:28:53,200 --> 02:28:54,500
FOR CUSTODY OF
HIS THREE CHILDREN --
949
02:28:54,500 --> 02:28:57,600
ONE BIOLOGICAL,
TWO ADOPTED.
950
02:28:57,600 --> 02:28:59,700
Aronson: THE CUSTODY
ISSUE WAS --
951
02:28:59,700 --> 02:29:01,000
WAS TERRIBLE.
952
02:29:01,500 --> 02:29:04,100
THAT WAS --
YOU KNOW, HE DIDN'T --
953
02:29:04,100 --> 02:29:05,800
HE NEVER CARES WHAT THEY WRITE
ABOUT HIM IN THE NEWSPAPER.
954
02:29:06,200 --> 02:29:08,900
EVEN THOUGH I CARE AND PEOPLE
WHO CARE ABOUT HIM CARE,
955
02:29:08,900 --> 02:29:11,500
HE DOESN'T CARE AND HE DOESN'T
READ IT SO IT DOESN'T,
956
02:29:11,900 --> 02:29:13,600
YOU KNOW, IMPACT HIM
IN THE SAME WAY.
957
02:29:13,600 --> 02:29:15,800
NOT BEING ABLE
TO SEE HIS KIDS
958
02:29:15,800 --> 02:29:18,000
WAS TERRIBLE FOR HIM.
959
02:29:18,000 --> 02:29:21,000
Taylor: ALL THROUGH
THIS UPSET WITH MIA
960
02:29:21,000 --> 02:29:24,000
AND THE SCANDAL
SURROUNDING IT,
961
02:29:24,000 --> 02:29:27,500
HE WAS NEVER LATE
FOR A MEETING.
962
02:29:27,500 --> 02:29:29,200
WE WOULD HAVE
A CASTING SESSION
963
02:29:29,200 --> 02:29:31,000
BEFORE HE'D GO TO COURT,
HALF THE TIME.
964
02:29:31,000 --> 02:29:34,000
HE NEVER MISSED A BEAT.
965
02:29:34,000 --> 02:29:35,700
IT WAS ALMOST AS IF
966
02:29:35,700 --> 02:29:39,600
WOODY HAS DREADED SO MANY BAD
THINGS HAPPENING TO HIM IN LIFE
967
02:29:39,600 --> 02:29:44,000
THAT, WHEN SOMETHING REALLY
BAD DID HAPPEN TO HIM,
968
02:29:44,000 --> 02:29:46,200
HE WAS TOTALLY PREPARED.
969
02:29:46,200 --> 02:29:48,300
EVERYBODY HAD AN OPINION
ABOUT MY PRIVATE LIFE,
970
02:29:48,300 --> 02:29:52,700
WHICH I FELT THEY
WERE ALL FREE TO HAVE
971
02:29:52,700 --> 02:29:58,700
AND FREE TO RESPOND IN ANY WAY
THAT MADE THEM HAPPY.
972
02:29:58,700 --> 02:30:04,400
THEY COULD SYMPATHIZE WITH ME,
NOT SYMPATHIZE WITH ME;
973
02:30:04,400 --> 02:30:07,800
THEY COULD DISLIKE ME,
THEY COULD LIKE ME;
974
02:30:08,300 --> 02:30:10,900
THEY COULD, YOU KNOW --
975
02:30:10,900 --> 02:30:12,600
IT COULD HAVE NO EFFECT
ON WHETHER THEY SAW MY FILMS,
976
02:30:13,000 --> 02:30:15,700
THEY COULD NEVER SEE
MY FILMS AGAIN.
977
02:30:15,700 --> 02:30:17,800
NONE OF THAT MATTERED
TO ME.
978
02:30:17,800 --> 02:30:19,100
I REALLY,
AT THE TIME, THOUGHT,
979
02:30:19,600 --> 02:30:23,000
"OH, MY GOD, IS THIS REALLY
THE RUINATION OF WOODY?"
980
02:30:23,000 --> 02:30:25,200
BUT, YOU KNOW,
981
02:30:25,200 --> 02:30:29,100
HE WAS ABLE TO CONTINUE
HIS WORK AND HIS CAREER,
982
02:30:29,500 --> 02:30:31,300
WHICH, TO ME,
IS THE MAIN THING.
983
02:30:31,300 --> 02:30:33,400
HOW MUCH I ENVY HIS ABILITY
TO COMPARTMENTALIZE.
984
02:30:33,900 --> 02:30:36,500
HE WAS ABLE TO CONTINUE
TO WORK ALL THE TIME --
985
02:30:36,500 --> 02:30:39,100
WOODY HAS THE ABILITY
TO COMPARTMENTALIZE HIS LIFE.
986
02:30:39,100 --> 02:30:42,100
SO HE WAS ABLE TO SORT OF
COMPARTMENTALIZE --
987
02:30:42,100 --> 02:30:43,400
WOODY'S ABILITY
TO COMPARTMENTALIZE --
988
02:30:43,800 --> 02:30:46,000
HE CAN COMPARTMENTALIZE
HIS LIFE.
989
02:30:46,000 --> 02:30:48,600
I'M VERY GOOD
AT COMPARTMENTALIZING,
990
02:30:48,500 --> 02:30:51,100
FOR BETTER OR WORSE.
991
02:30:51,600 --> 02:30:53,700
WHEN WE WERE WRITING
"BULLETS OVER BROADWAY,"
992
02:30:54,200 --> 02:30:55,900
THE CUSTODY TRIAL WAS
ABOUT TO HAPPEN
993
02:30:56,300 --> 02:30:59,800
AND SO THERE WERE,
OF NECESSITY,
994
02:30:59,800 --> 02:31:02,800
A LOT OF INTERRUPTIONS
IN OUR WORK.
995
02:31:03,300 --> 02:31:05,400
WE'D BE TALKING
THROUGH THE SCENES,
996
02:31:05,900 --> 02:31:07,200
AS WE WOULD DO
WITH EACH OTHER,
997
02:31:07,200 --> 02:31:08,500
AND THEN THE PHONE
WOULD RING AND HE'D SAY,
998
02:31:08,900 --> 02:31:11,100
"OH, EXCUSE ME, I GOT TO
TAKE THIS" AND THEN HE'D GO OVER
999
02:31:11,500 --> 02:31:16,300
AND YOU WOULD HEAR A VERY HUSHED
"HELLO," YOU'D HEAR, YOU KNOW,
1000
02:31:16,300 --> 02:31:19,300
"DETECTIVE" AND MAYBE
"GET A SAMPLE."
1001
02:31:19,300 --> 02:31:21,500
YOU KNOW, YOU'D HEAR KIND OF
HAIR-RAISING PHRASES
1002
02:31:21,500 --> 02:31:23,700
AND THEN HE'D HANG UP
AND HE'D COME BACK AND HE'D GO,
1003
02:31:24,100 --> 02:31:25,400
[ Snaps fingers ]
"OKAY, LET'S GO BACK TO WORK."
1004
02:31:25,800 --> 02:31:27,100
I JUST REMEMBER THIS ONE DAY,
WE HAD BEEN INTERRUPTED
1005
02:31:27,100 --> 02:31:29,700
THREE TIMES AND,
AFTER THE THIRD TIME,
1006
02:31:30,200 --> 02:31:32,300
WHEN THERE'D BEEN SOME OTHER
GRISLY EXCHANGE ON THE PHONE,
1007
02:31:32,300 --> 02:31:34,900
HE CAME BACK AND HE LOOKED
AT ME AND HE GOES,
1008
02:31:34,900 --> 02:31:39,300
"OKAY, BACK TO WORK
ON OUR LITTLE COMIC BAUBLE."
1009
02:31:39,300 --> 02:31:42,300
WE GOT THE MONEY!
WE CAN DO THE PLAY!
1010
02:31:42,300 --> 02:31:44,900
WHAT?!
WHEN?! HOW?!
1011
02:31:44,900 --> 02:31:47,500
A SINGLE BACKER GOING
FOR THE WHOLE SHOW.
1012
02:31:47,900 --> 02:31:48,800
AND NO HITCHES?
1013
02:31:48,800 --> 02:31:51,000
WELL, UH...
1014
02:31:51,000 --> 02:31:53,100
WE'LL MEET TOMORROW
AND DISCUSS IT, ALL RIGHT?
1015
02:31:53,600 --> 02:31:54,900
I JUST THOUGHT
IT WAS A FUNNY IDEA,
1016
02:31:54,900 --> 02:31:56,600
THAT A GUY WANTS
TO PUT ON A SHOW
1017
02:31:57,100 --> 02:31:58,800
AND A GANGSTER, YOU KNOW,
BANKROLLS IT
1018
02:31:59,200 --> 02:32:00,500
AND MAKES HIS GIRLFRIEND
THE STAR OF IT,
1019
02:32:00,500 --> 02:32:02,300
OR ONE OF THE STARS
OF IT.
1020
02:32:02,300 --> 02:32:04,000
Nick: HEY, DAVE,
SHE READ YOUR PLAY. Olive: YES, YES --
1021
02:32:04,000 --> 02:32:05,300
SHE THINKS IT'S GREAT.
1022
02:32:05,700 --> 02:32:07,900
IT'S THRILLING, TURBULENT,
A PAGE-TURNER.
1023
02:32:08,300 --> 02:32:10,900
CHARMED, CHARMED,
CHARMED, CHARMED.
1024
02:32:10,900 --> 02:32:12,200
SHE'S A GREAT LITTLE
ACTRESS, YOU KNOW.
1025
02:32:12,200 --> 02:32:14,000
SHE JUST NEEDS
AS BREAK.
1026
02:32:14,000 --> 02:32:15,300
SO WHAT HAVE YOU
BEEN IN, MISS, UH...?
1027
02:32:15,300 --> 02:32:17,900
OLIVE, OLIVE, OLIVE.
CALL ME OLIVE, HONEY.
1028
02:32:17,900 --> 02:32:20,900
OLIVE. YOU'RE -- WELL,
YOU'RE EXPERIENCED?
1029
02:32:20,900 --> 02:32:22,600
WELL, I HAD
A LITTLE EXPERIENCE.
1030
02:32:22,600 --> 02:32:23,500
OH, SHE AIN'T GOT
NO EXPERIENCE.
1031
02:32:23,900 --> 02:32:26,100
I DO, TOO.
I HAVE, TOO! SHE'S A NATURAL.
1032
02:32:26,100 --> 02:32:28,300
THEY AIN'T TALKING
DANCING, OLIVE.
1033
02:32:28,300 --> 02:32:30,000
HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT
HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
1034
02:32:30,000 --> 02:32:31,800
YOU DON'T MEAN
DANCING, DO YOU?
1035
02:32:31,800 --> 02:32:33,900
SHE USED TO WIGGLE AT THIS
JOINT IN HOBOKEN, YOU KNOW,
1036
02:32:33,900 --> 02:32:35,700
PICK UP QUARTERS OFF
THE TABLETOPS WITH HER --
1037
02:32:36,100 --> 02:32:37,000
HEY!
HEY! HEY!
1038
02:32:37,400 --> 02:32:38,700
I'M JUST TRYING TO BREAK
THE ICE, ALL RIGHT?
1039
02:32:38,700 --> 02:32:40,000
BUTT OUT, WHY DON'T YOU!
THEY'RE TALKING TO ME!
1040
02:32:40,400 --> 02:32:42,600
WHO WANTS A DRINK?
I'LL HAVE A DOUBLE ANYTHING.
1041
02:32:42,600 --> 02:32:44,300
"BULLETS OVER BROADWAY"
IS JUST --
1042
02:32:44,300 --> 02:32:46,100
I JUST THINK
IT'S A WONDERFUL MOVIE.
1043
02:32:46,100 --> 02:32:49,500
I MEAN,
YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY,
1044
02:32:50,000 --> 02:32:51,700
"WRITE ABOUT WHAT YOU KNOW" --
WELL.
1045
02:32:51,700 --> 02:32:54,300
IT MUST BE DIFFICULT,
GETTING A WORK LIKE THIS ON.
1046
02:32:54,700 --> 02:32:56,000
IT'S A SAD REALITY
OF THE MARKETPLACE,
1047
02:32:56,000 --> 02:32:57,300
I'LL TELL YOU.
1048
02:32:57,300 --> 02:32:58,600
WE'VE NEVER REALLY HAD
A CHANCE TO TALK.
1049
02:32:59,100 --> 02:33:00,400
NO.
HI, FOLKS. WHAT CAN I GET YOU?
1050
02:33:00,800 --> 02:33:02,600
TWO MARTINIS,
PLEASE, VERY DRY.
1051
02:33:02,600 --> 02:33:03,900
HOW'D YOU KNOW
WHAT I DRANK?
1052
02:33:03,900 --> 02:33:07,300
OH, YOU WANT ONE, TOO?
THREE.
1053
02:33:07,300 --> 02:33:09,500
McGrath: WE SPOKE A LOT BY PHONE
WHEN HE WAS MAKING "BULLETS"
1054
02:33:09,500 --> 02:33:11,200
AND SO I'D SAY,
"HOW'S THE MOVIE GOING?"
1055
02:33:11,200 --> 02:33:13,000
AND HE'D SAY,
"EVERYTHING'S GOING GREAT,"
1056
02:33:13,400 --> 02:33:14,700
BUT, AT FIRST,
DIANNE WIEST,
1057
02:33:14,700 --> 02:33:16,900
WHOM I HAD FELT,
RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING,
1058
02:33:16,900 --> 02:33:19,900
WAS WRONG FOR THAT PART --
AND HAD NO TROUBLE TELLING HIM.
1059
02:33:19,900 --> 02:33:23,400
I KEPT SAYING, "DIANNE WIEST
FOR THAT VAIN, HAMMY ACTRESS?"
1060
02:33:23,400 --> 02:33:25,100
BECAUSE YOU KNOW,
1061
02:33:25,100 --> 02:33:27,300
SHE'S SO SWEET AND VULNERABLE
AND, YOU KNOW,
1062
02:33:27,700 --> 02:33:29,000
IT SEEMED SO NOT LIKE
DIANNE WIEST.
1063
02:33:29,000 --> 02:33:30,700
AND HE KEPT SAYING,
1064
02:33:30,700 --> 02:33:33,300
"NO, SHE HAS TO DO IT.
SHE CAN DO ANYTHING."
1065
02:33:33,300 --> 02:33:35,100
SO I THOUGHT, "OKAY, GO AHEAD,
SINK YOUR OWN PICTURE,
1066
02:33:35,100 --> 02:33:36,400
WHAT DO I KNOW?"
1067
02:33:36,400 --> 02:33:41,600
WHAT HAPPENED WAS THIS --
WE SHOT FOR TWO DAYS.
1068
02:33:41,600 --> 02:33:45,500
HE SAID, "TONIGHT, COME AND SEE
THE DAILIES WITH ME."
1069
02:33:45,500 --> 02:33:54,600
I SAT THERE AND I SAW
THIS PAINFUL, PAINFUL ATTEMPT
1070
02:33:55,000 --> 02:33:58,100
FOR ME TO DO THIS ROLE,
PATHETIC, PATHETIC.
1071
02:33:58,500 --> 02:34:02,000
HE SAID, "DO YOU SEE?"
AND I SAID, "YEAH, I DO."
1072
02:34:02,000 --> 02:34:05,400
HE SAID, "WELL," YOU KNOW,
"WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO?"
1073
02:34:05,400 --> 02:34:07,200
AND I SAID, "YOU'VE GOT TO
PICK UP THE PHONE
1074
02:34:07,200 --> 02:34:08,900
"AND YOU'VE GOT TO FIND
SOMEBODY WHO CAN DO THIS.
1075
02:34:09,400 --> 02:34:11,100
IT'S NOT ME.
YOU'VE GOT TO REPLACE ME."
1076
02:34:11,500 --> 02:34:12,800
HE SAID, "NO, NO, NO, NO.
1077
02:34:12,800 --> 02:34:15,000
THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO.
THERE'S SOMETHING."
1078
02:34:15,400 --> 02:34:16,700
WHEN I WAS TALKING TO HER,
SHE WAS CONVINCED
1079
02:34:16,700 --> 02:34:18,000
SHE WAS GOING TO GET FIRED.
1080
02:34:18,000 --> 02:34:21,500
AND WITH THE FIRST COUPLE
THINGS WE RESHOT,
1081
02:34:21,500 --> 02:34:24,500
SHE DIDN'T HAVE
THAT DEEP BARITONE VOICE
1082
02:34:25,000 --> 02:34:26,700
AND I THINK SHE WAS
SORT OF FINDING THAT.
1083
02:34:26,700 --> 02:34:29,700
OR THEY WERE FINDING IT
TOGETHER.
1084
02:34:29,700 --> 02:34:36,200
WITHOUT MY OWN VOICE,
I WAS FREE TO DO
1085
02:34:36,700 --> 02:34:40,600
THIS MAD, CRAZY, YOU KNOW,
PSYCHOTIC WOMAN.
1086
02:34:40,600 --> 02:34:42,800
HELEN, HAVE YOU THOUGHT
ABOUT WHAT I SAID BEFORE,
1087
02:34:43,200 --> 02:34:45,800
ABOUT THE WAY I FEEL?
Don't speak.
1088
02:34:45,800 --> 02:34:47,100
BUT I WANT
TO EXPRESS --
1089
02:34:47,100 --> 02:34:51,000
Don't speak, don't.
1090
02:34:51,000 --> 02:34:52,300
THERE'S JUST A FEW THINGS
THAT I WANT TO TELL YOU --
1091
02:34:52,300 --> 02:34:53,600
DON'T SPEAK, NO, NO.
1092
02:34:54,000 --> 02:34:55,300
WHEN WE FIRST MET,
I WAS THINKING --
1093
02:34:55,300 --> 02:34:58,400
DON'T SPEAK. PLEASE,
DON'T SPEAK, PLEASE.
1094
02:34:58,400 --> 02:35:01,400
DON'T SPEAK! NO!
NO, NO, NO!
1095
02:35:01,400 --> 02:35:06,200
GO, GO,
GENTLE SCORPIO, GO!
1096
02:35:06,200 --> 02:35:10,100
YOUR PISCES WISHES YOU
EVERY HAPPY RETURN.
1097
02:35:10,500 --> 02:35:11,800
JUST ONE --
1098
02:35:11,800 --> 02:35:13,100
DON'T SPEAK!
1099
02:35:13,100 --> 02:35:16,600
SHE COULDN'T BELIEVE
THAT I WANTED HER
1100
02:35:16,600 --> 02:35:19,600
TO PLAY IT SO BROADLY,
1101
02:35:19,600 --> 02:35:21,400
AND I DID,
I WANTED HER TO PLAY IT
1102
02:35:21,400 --> 02:35:24,400
LIKE NORMA DESMOND,
JUST AS BROAD AS COULD BE.
1103
02:35:24,400 --> 02:35:27,000
SHE WENT STRAIGHT
FROM THERE TO HER,
1104
02:35:27,400 --> 02:35:30,900
I THINK,
SECOND ACADEMY AWARD.
1105
02:35:31,300 --> 02:35:32,200
Lax: AND SO IT'S ODD --
1106
02:35:32,600 --> 02:35:35,200
HE'S A DIRECTOR
WHOSE ACTORS GET
1107
02:35:35,200 --> 02:35:37,400
TREMENDOUS NUMBERS OF AWARDS
OR NOMINATIONS FOR AWARDS,
1108
02:35:37,400 --> 02:35:39,100
BUT IF YOU WATCH HIM
ON THE SET,
1109
02:35:39,100 --> 02:35:44,300
HE'S THE LEAST DIRECTIVE
DIRECTOR YOU CAN IMAGINE.
1110
02:35:44,800 --> 02:35:46,900
I LOVE HIS DIRECTING STYLE
BECAUSE, HONESTLY,
1111
02:35:47,400 --> 02:35:51,300
A DIRECTOR WHO HAS
CONFIDENCE IN HIS ACTORS
1112
02:35:51,300 --> 02:35:54,800
AND WHO DOESN'T TRY
AND MUSCLE THEM AROUND THE SET,
1113
02:35:55,200 --> 02:35:59,100
ALLOWS THEM TO BLOSSOM
AND MAKES THEM TAKE
1114
02:35:59,100 --> 02:36:00,800
THE RESPONSIBILITY
FOR THEIR PERFORMANCE.
1115
02:36:00,800 --> 02:36:02,600
SEE, THE THING IS, IF YOU'RE
WITH SOMEBODY WHO SAYS,
1116
02:36:02,600 --> 02:36:04,300
"IT'S ALL YOU NOW, GO,"
IT REALLY THEN
1117
02:36:04,300 --> 02:36:06,900
PUTS THE BALL IN YOUR COURT,
YOU GOT TO COME WITH THE GOODS.
1118
02:36:06,900 --> 02:36:08,200
SO LET ME ASK YOU
A QUESTION --
1119
02:36:08,600 --> 02:36:09,900
ARE YOU EVER
FRIGHTENED THAT,
1120
02:36:09,900 --> 02:36:12,100
WHEN A GUY COMES OVER
YOUR HOUSE AND PAYS YOU,
1121
02:36:12,100 --> 02:36:13,400
THAT HE'S GOING TO,
YOU KNOW,
1122
02:36:13,400 --> 02:36:15,100
MAYBE LIKE TIE YOU UP
AND KILL YOU?
1123
02:36:15,100 --> 02:36:16,900
OH, NO, I ALWAYS
GET PAID IN ADVANCE.
1124
02:36:16,900 --> 02:36:19,000
[ FANFARE PLAYS ]
1125
02:36:19,000 --> 02:36:21,200
COME ON.
1126
02:36:21,200 --> 02:36:25,100
HE SAID THAT HE DIDN'T
REALLY LIKE TO REHEARSE,
1127
02:36:25,100 --> 02:36:27,300
UNLESS I WANTED TO, AND I
WAS LIKE, "NO, THAT'S OKAY,"
1128
02:36:27,300 --> 02:36:29,500
BECAUSE I ACTUALLY DIDN'T
REALLY LOVE REHEARSING EITHER.
1129
02:36:29,900 --> 02:36:32,500
HE SAID, "YOU DON'T
HAVE TO SAY ANY
1130
02:36:32,500 --> 02:36:35,100
OF THE WORDS I'VE WRITTEN,
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO"
1131
02:36:35,100 --> 02:36:36,800
AND I WAS SHOCKED
BECAUSE I WAS LIKE,
1132
02:36:36,800 --> 02:36:41,600
THIS IS THE BEST, GENIUS,
COMEDY WRITER WE HAVE.
1133
02:36:41,600 --> 02:36:43,800
HIS SCRIPT IS SO FANTASTIC,
WHY WOULDN'T I SAY THE WORDS?
1134
02:36:43,800 --> 02:36:46,800
AND HE SAID, "NO, THE SCRIPT
IS JUST A BLUEPRINT.
1135
02:36:47,200 --> 02:36:48,500
"IT'S WHATEVER MAKES YOU
1136
02:36:48,500 --> 02:36:50,300
"AS REAL, NATURAL,
AND FUNNY AS POSSIBLE.
1137
02:36:50,300 --> 02:36:52,000
"SO IF YOU WANT TO SAY
SOMETHING ELSE,
1138
02:36:52,000 --> 02:36:54,200
GO AHEAD AND SAY IT."
1139
02:36:54,200 --> 02:36:56,400
AND YOU NEVER THOUGHT OF
JUST GETTING A REGULAR JOB?
1140
02:36:56,400 --> 02:36:58,500
WELL, YEAH, SURE I DID.
NO, I DID THINGS.
1141
02:36:58,500 --> 02:36:59,800
I WAITED ON TABLES,
I WORKED
1142
02:37:00,300 --> 02:37:01,600
IN A MASSAGE PARLOR,
I DID PHONE SEX.
1143
02:37:01,600 --> 02:37:02,900
NOW AND THEN,
I WOULD, YOU KNOW,
1144
02:37:02,900 --> 02:37:04,600
TURN A FEW TRICKS
1145
02:37:04,600 --> 02:37:05,900
IN ORDER TO MAKE
SOME DOUGH.
1146
02:37:05,900 --> 02:37:08,100
AND ONE DAY, MY FRIEND
SUZIE CALLS ME
1147
02:37:08,100 --> 02:37:09,800
AND SHE ASKS ME IF I
WANT TO BE IN A FILM,
1148
02:37:09,800 --> 02:37:11,500
SOMETHING CALLED
"SNATCH HAPPY,"
1149
02:37:11,500 --> 02:37:14,600
AND I SAID SURE
AND I REMEMBER
1150
02:37:14,600 --> 02:37:16,300
I WAS VERY NERVOUS BECAUSE
I'D NEVER DONE IT
1151
02:37:16,700 --> 02:37:18,000
IN FRONT OF PEOPLE
WITH A CAMERA BEFORE,
1152
02:37:18,000 --> 02:37:20,600
YOU KNOW, AND SO, THERE
I AM ON THE FIRST DAY,
1153
02:37:20,600 --> 02:37:23,200
ON THE SET,
AND THERE'S THIS GUY
1154
02:37:23,200 --> 02:37:24,500
FUCKING ME
FROM BEHIND, RIGHT?
1155
02:37:25,000 --> 02:37:27,100
AND THERE'S THESE TWO HUGE
GUYS DRESSED LIKE COPS
1156
02:37:27,100 --> 02:37:28,400
IN MY MOUTH
AT THE SAME TIME
1157
02:37:28,900 --> 02:37:30,600
AND I REMEMBER
THINKING TO MYSELF,
1158
02:37:31,100 --> 02:37:34,100
"I LIKE ACTING.
I WANT TO STUDY."
1159
02:37:34,100 --> 02:37:36,700
I NEVER EXPECTED
TO WIN THE OSCAR, NEVER.
1160
02:37:37,100 --> 02:37:40,200
AND I WAS, LIKE,
PREPARING TO BE HAPPY
1161
02:37:40,200 --> 02:37:42,300
FOR WHOMEVER'S NAME
THEY CALLED,
1162
02:37:42,300 --> 02:37:43,600
AND THEN
THEY CALLED MINE.
1163
02:37:43,600 --> 02:37:46,200
I THINK THE SECRET IS
1164
02:37:46,200 --> 02:37:49,700
THAT EVERYBODY WANTS
TO WORK FOR HIM SO BADLY
1165
02:37:49,700 --> 02:37:52,300
THAT THEY KNOW
THEY HAVE TO DO THEIR BEST
1166
02:37:52,300 --> 02:37:55,300
AND I THINK THEY BRING
THEIR VERY BEST
1167
02:37:55,300 --> 02:37:58,400
TO THE SET EVERY DAY
ON A WOODY ALLEN FILM.
1168
02:37:58,400 --> 02:38:02,300
THEY DON'T WANT
TO DISAPPOINT.
1169
02:38:02,300 --> 02:38:04,500
Allen: WE GAVE SEAN
GUITAR LESSONS.
1170
02:38:04,500 --> 02:38:05,800
SIX MONTHS
BEFORE THE MOVIE,
1171
02:38:06,200 --> 02:38:07,900
WE SENT A GUITAR --
WE PAID FOR A GUITAR TEACHER
1172
02:38:08,400 --> 02:38:10,500
TO GO OVER TO EUROPE
AND STAY WITH HIM.
1173
02:38:10,500 --> 02:38:13,600
SO, I DIDN'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW,
DO ONE OF THOSE SHOTS
1174
02:38:13,600 --> 02:38:15,700
WHERE YOU ALWAYS HAD TO CUT AWAY
TO SOMEONE ELSE'S HAND.
1175
02:38:15,700 --> 02:38:17,500
THAT WAS SEAN.
1176
02:38:21,800 --> 02:38:24,400
Penn: HE DIDN'T ASK
TO SEE OR KNOW ANYTHING
1177
02:38:24,400 --> 02:38:26,100
UNTIL HE ROLLED
THE CAMERA.
1178
02:38:26,100 --> 02:38:29,600
HIS FEELING IS THAT THE BEST,
COMPLETE THING HE'S GOING TO GET
1179
02:38:30,000 --> 02:38:32,200
IS GOING TO COME OUT
OF THE ACTOR'S INSTINCT
1180
02:38:32,200 --> 02:38:34,800
AND THAT WHAT HE FINDS OUT
ON DAY ONE IS
1181
02:38:35,300 --> 02:38:37,000
WHETHER OR NOT
HE CAST IT WELL.
1182
02:38:37,000 --> 02:38:38,300
REALLY, I'M NOT ONE
OF THESE GUYS
1183
02:38:38,300 --> 02:38:40,000
WHO GETS
HIS HEAD TURNED
1184
02:38:40,000 --> 02:38:41,800
EVERY TIME
SOME DAME WALKS BY.
1185
02:38:41,800 --> 02:38:43,500
I'VE HAD PLENTY
OF BEAUTIFUL WOMEN
1186
02:38:43,900 --> 02:38:46,100
AND I ALWAYS PUT 'EM
IN THEIR PLACE.
1187
02:38:46,100 --> 02:38:48,700
YEAH, "LOVE 'EM
AND LEAVE 'EM,"
1188
02:38:48,700 --> 02:38:49,600
THAT'S MY MOTTO.
1189
02:38:50,000 --> 02:38:53,000
"LOVE 'EM
AND DON'T LOOK BACK."
1190
02:38:53,500 --> 02:38:55,200
I NEVER ONCE REGRETTED --
NOT ONE TIME
1191
02:38:55,600 --> 02:38:58,700
DID I EVER REGRET
DUMPING A BEAUTIFUL DAME.
1192
02:38:58,700 --> 02:39:00,000
BECAUSE YOU GOT TO
KEEP YOUR GUARD UP.
1193
02:39:00,000 --> 02:39:01,700
YOU DON'T,
THEM PRETTY ONES
1194
02:39:01,700 --> 02:39:03,000
GET THEIR WORMS
IN YOU
1195
02:39:03,000 --> 02:39:05,600
AND THEN IT'S OVER,
YOU'RE DONE.
1196
02:39:06,000 --> 02:39:08,600
PARTICULARLY
IF YOU'RE AN ARTIST.
1197
02:39:08,700 --> 02:39:11,300
NAH, I'VE SEEN TOO MANY
GUYS CRYING IN THEIR BEER.
1198
02:39:11,300 --> 02:39:15,200
ME? I'M GOING TO BE
A STAR.
1199
02:39:15,200 --> 02:39:17,300
Penn: AFTER THE "CUT"
WAS CALLED,
1200
02:39:17,400 --> 02:39:20,500
I LOOKED AT HIM TO SAY,
YOU KNOW,
1201
02:39:20,900 --> 02:39:24,800
"SHOULD I CHOOSE WINDOW
OR AISLE ON MY WAY HOME
1202
02:39:24,800 --> 02:39:27,400
OR AM I STICKING AROUND?"
1203
02:39:27,400 --> 02:39:30,900
AND HE WAS ALREADY LOOKING
AT SOMEBODY ELSE,
1204
02:39:31,300 --> 02:39:33,500
GETTING, YOU KNOW, READY TO
JUST, YOU KNOW, DO ANOTHER TAKE,
1205
02:39:33,500 --> 02:39:36,500
OR DO SOMETHING, AND THERE
WAS NEVER A COMMENT AT ALL.
1206
02:39:36,500 --> 02:39:40,000
TO THIS DAY,
I'VE NEVER HEARD HIM MAKE
1207
02:39:40,000 --> 02:39:44,800
A SPECIFIC COMMENT ABOUT
THE CHARACTER THAT I PLAYED.
1208
02:39:45,200 --> 02:39:48,200
BUT WHEN IT COMES
TO DIRECTING AN ACTOR,
1209
02:39:48,200 --> 02:39:53,000
IT'S A BARE-BONES CLARITY
THAT ANY PERSONALITY
1210
02:39:53,400 --> 02:39:56,000
CAN UNDERSTAND
AND INTERPRET.
1211
02:39:56,000 --> 02:39:58,200
I CAN'T WRITE
ALL NIGHT
1212
02:39:58,600 --> 02:39:59,900
AND THEN DRIVE
IN THE DAYTIME!
1213
02:39:59,900 --> 02:40:01,200
YOU KNOW, I FELL
ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL.
1214
02:40:01,700 --> 02:40:03,000
OH, GOD.
WELL, ARE YOU OKAY?
1215
02:40:03,000 --> 02:40:04,300
DID ANYONE GET HURT?
1216
02:40:04,300 --> 02:40:07,700
LOOK, I NEED TIME
TO WORK ON MY BOOK.
1217
02:40:07,700 --> 02:40:09,000
WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO
FINISH THAT BOOK?
1218
02:40:09,500 --> 02:40:11,600
LIKE THAT?
1219
02:40:11,600 --> 02:40:13,400
Y-YES, PHYSICALLY
LIKE THAT,
1220
02:40:13,800 --> 02:40:17,700
BUT WHAT'S MISSING
FROM IT IS
1221
02:40:17,700 --> 02:40:19,900
THE ARGUMENTATION.
1222
02:40:20,300 --> 02:40:22,900
Watts: I THINK I'VE COME
TO REALIZE THAT HE IS
1223
02:40:22,900 --> 02:40:25,100
THE BEST ACTOR'S DIRECTOR
I'VE EVER WORKED WITH,
1224
02:40:25,100 --> 02:40:27,300
AND I'VE WORKED WITH
SOME REALLY GOOD ONES,
1225
02:40:27,700 --> 02:40:29,400
SO I SAY THAT
1226
02:40:29,400 --> 02:40:30,700
AFTER A LOT OF THOUGHT.
1227
02:40:30,700 --> 02:40:33,800
AND SO, WHILE HE'S GIVING US
A LOT OF FREE REIN,
1228
02:40:33,800 --> 02:40:37,700
HE'S STILL GOING FOR
SOMETHING VERY SPECIFIC,
1229
02:40:37,700 --> 02:40:39,000
THE WAY HE'S OFFERING THESE
SUGGESTIONS ALL THE TIME,
1230
02:40:39,400 --> 02:40:41,100
BUT THEN SORT OF
BACKTRACKING AND SAYING,
1231
02:40:41,100 --> 02:40:43,700
"BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO,"
AND, YOU KNOW,
1232
02:40:43,700 --> 02:40:45,000
"IF YOU DON'T FEEL
COMFORTABLE WITH IT,
1233
02:40:45,500 --> 02:40:46,800
THEN FORGET
I EVER SAID IT,"
1234
02:40:46,800 --> 02:40:49,400
SO IT CAN JUST BE
REAL LIFE.
1235
02:40:49,800 --> 02:40:52,000
I MEAN, HOW MANY TIMES
CAN YOU WRITE
1236
02:40:52,000 --> 02:40:54,200
AND TEAR UP AND REWRITE
THESE CHAPTERS?!
1237
02:40:54,600 --> 02:40:56,300
IT'S LIKE YOU'RE
SCARED TO FINISH.
1238
02:40:56,300 --> 02:40:57,600
OKAY, YOU KNOW WHAT?
YOU'RE RIGHT.
1239
02:40:57,600 --> 02:41:00,200
I'M GUN-SHY,
I CAN'T HANDLE IT,
1240
02:41:00,200 --> 02:41:01,500
IF IT'S CONFIRMED,
YET AGAIN,
1241
02:41:02,000 --> 02:41:03,300
THAT ALL THOSE NICE THINGS
PREDICTED ABOUT ME WERE WRONG.
1242
02:41:03,300 --> 02:41:05,000
THAT I WAS, WHAT,
A FLASH IN THE PAN?
1243
02:41:05,000 --> 02:41:07,600
WELL, STALLING
IS NOT THE ANSWER.
1244
02:41:07,600 --> 02:41:10,200
ALL MY FRIENDS
HAVE FAMILY!
1245
02:41:10,200 --> 02:41:11,500
CAN I DO THAT?
1246
02:41:11,500 --> 02:41:12,800
YEAH, SURE, YEAH.
1247
02:41:12,800 --> 02:41:14,100
SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN
TO SCARE YOU.
1248
02:41:14,100 --> 02:41:15,800
WARN ME.
1249
02:41:16,300 --> 02:41:18,000
AND YOU SHUT THE DOOR
1250
02:41:18,000 --> 02:41:20,600
BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO
CUT IN HERE.
1251
02:41:20,600 --> 02:41:22,400
I'M ANYTHING BUT COMFORTABLE
ON THIS SET, FOR SURE.
1252
02:41:22,400 --> 02:41:25,000
I'VE SPENT A WEEK AND A HALF
HERE GETTING READY TO START
1253
02:41:25,000 --> 02:41:28,400
AND IT'S BEEN THE MOST TORTUROUS
WEEK AND A HALF OF MY LIFE
1254
02:41:28,400 --> 02:41:31,500
BECAUSE HE'S ONE OF THESE GUYS
THAT YOU WANT TO PLEASE,
1255
02:41:31,500 --> 02:41:32,800
YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY WANT
TO PLEASE HIM.
1256
02:41:32,800 --> 02:41:36,700
IT'S LIKE GOING BACK TO,
YOU KNOW, ACTING SCHOOL,
1257
02:41:36,700 --> 02:41:38,800
YOU KNOW?
I FEEL LIKE I KNOW NOTHING
1258
02:41:38,800 --> 02:41:42,700
AND I JUST WANT TO PLEASE
THIS GUY'S VISION.
1259
02:41:42,700 --> 02:41:45,800
AND SHE'S SIPPING
HER DRINK, CHATTING.
1260
02:41:46,200 --> 02:41:48,400
Brolin: RIGHT HERE.
AND I'M --
1261
02:41:48,400 --> 02:41:49,200
YOU'RE IN HERE
WITH HER.
1262
02:41:49,200 --> 02:41:51,000
"WHY?" YOU ASK.
1263
02:41:51,400 --> 02:41:53,100
UH-HUH.
1264
02:41:53,600 --> 02:41:54,900
NO, I DIDN'T ASK WHY,
I JUST ASKED WHERE.
1265
02:41:54,900 --> 02:41:57,100
I MEAN, "WHY?" IS ALWAYS
THE QUESTION,
1266
02:41:57,500 --> 02:42:00,100
WHY WE DO HAVE TO BE
ALONE TOGETHER?
1267
02:42:00,500 --> 02:42:01,800
THAT I CAN NEVER FIND
THE ANSWER TO.
1268
02:42:01,800 --> 02:42:04,400
WHAT COULD YOU DO
IN HERE?
1269
02:42:04,400 --> 02:42:07,500
JUST BE
UNCOMFORTABLE.
1270
02:42:07,500 --> 02:42:08,800
OKAY.
1271
02:42:08,800 --> 02:42:10,900
I MEAN, WHAT COULD
I DO AS AN ACTION,
1272
02:42:10,900 --> 02:42:12,200
WHAT COULD I DO
AS A...?
1273
02:42:12,200 --> 02:42:14,400
I MEAN,
YOU CAN COME IN --
1274
02:42:14,800 --> 02:42:17,400
I MEAN, YOU CAN COME IN
FOR YOUR CIGARETTES,
1275
02:42:17,400 --> 02:42:19,200
YOU KNOW, GET THEM
WHILE YOU'RE HERE.
1276
02:42:19,200 --> 02:42:20,500
YOU CAN COME IN
AND SIT DOWN
1277
02:42:20,900 --> 02:42:23,900
IN ANTICIPATION
OF YOUR SALAD.
1278
02:42:23,900 --> 02:42:26,100
YOU KNOW,
IF THEY SAY TO ME,
1279
02:42:26,100 --> 02:42:27,400
"WOULD YOU LIKE ME
TO DO IT THIS WAY?"
1280
02:42:27,800 --> 02:42:29,600
OR "WAS I TOO MEAN IN THAT?"
1281
02:42:29,600 --> 02:42:33,500
YOU KNOW, I CAN'T JUST STARE
BACK AT THEM AND NOT ANSWER,
1282
02:42:33,500 --> 02:42:35,200
SO I HAVE TO SAY
"YES" OR "NO."
1283
02:42:35,200 --> 02:42:38,700
YOU DO GET ACTORS
THAT WANT A LITTLE FEEDBACK
1284
02:42:38,700 --> 02:42:41,700
AND THEY DO ASK QUESTIONS
1285
02:42:41,700 --> 02:42:43,900
AND I GIVE THEM
A SHORT ANSWER,
1286
02:42:44,300 --> 02:42:46,100
A SHORT, FLATTERING ANSWER --
"OH, YOU WERE GREAT,"
1287
02:42:46,100 --> 02:42:48,700
YOU KNOW, "DO EXACTLY
WHAT YOU'RE DOING,"
1288
02:42:48,700 --> 02:42:50,400
OR SOMETHING,
AND THEY'RE FINE.
1289
02:42:50,400 --> 02:42:52,600
DO IT THAT WAY
AND LET'S SEE.
1290
02:42:52,600 --> 02:42:54,300
THIS WAS QUITE GOOD.
1291
02:42:54,300 --> 02:42:56,900
NOW, IF YOU'RE
TELLING ME YOU CAN BE
1292
02:42:57,300 --> 02:43:00,800
EVEN MORE NATURAL, FINE,
THAT NEVER HURTS ANYTHING,
1293
02:43:00,800 --> 02:43:02,100
BUT THIS WAS NOT --
1294
02:43:02,100 --> 02:43:03,900
IF YOU SAW THIS,
YOU WOULDN'T THINK,
1295
02:43:03,900 --> 02:43:07,800
"OH, IT'S NOT AUTHENTIC"
OR "IT'S ARTIFICIAL."
1296
02:43:07,800 --> 02:43:10,400
RIGHT. WELL, THAT'S WHAT
I DON'T WANT, BY ANY MEANS.
1297
02:43:10,400 --> 02:43:11,700
IT LOOKS
PERFECTLY NATURAL.
1298
02:43:11,700 --> 02:43:13,000
Brolin: I ASK HIM
A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
1299
02:43:13,400 --> 02:43:16,000
HE SAYS, "DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
GET A GOOD NIGHT'S SLEEP.
1300
02:43:16,400 --> 02:43:18,200
I'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW,"
YOU KNOW, "LEARN YOUR LINES
1301
02:43:18,200 --> 02:43:20,800
AND I'LL POINT YOU IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION AND YOU'LL BE FINE."
1302
02:43:20,800 --> 02:43:23,800
HE DOESN'T REALLY
GO INTO MOTIVATION OR,
1303
02:43:23,800 --> 02:43:26,000
LIKE, ACTING STUFF, LIKE,
1304
02:43:26,000 --> 02:43:29,000
YOU KNOW, "WHAT'S THE BACK
HISTORY, WHAT'S THE STORY?"
1305
02:43:29,000 --> 02:43:31,600
HE DOESN'T REALLY
GO INTO ANY OF THAT.
1306
02:43:31,600 --> 02:43:33,800
I THINK --
I'M NOT SURE --
1307
02:43:33,800 --> 02:43:36,800
I THINK HE ONCE GAVE
A STANDARD DIRECTION,
1308
02:43:36,800 --> 02:43:38,100
"DO IT FASTER."
1309
02:43:38,600 --> 02:43:40,300
WE DIDN'T MEET UNTIL
THREE DAYS BEFORE FILMING,
1310
02:43:40,700 --> 02:43:42,900
WHEN I SHOWED UP IN PARIS,
1311
02:43:42,900 --> 02:43:46,400
AND WE SHOOK HANDS AND HE
ASKED ME HOW MY FLIGHT WAS
1312
02:43:46,400 --> 02:43:50,700
AND IT WAS A GOOD FLIGHT
AND UNEVENTFUL
1313
02:43:50,700 --> 02:43:54,600
AND HE SAID, "GREAT. THIS WILL
BE THE LAST YOU HEAR FROM ME."
1314
02:43:54,600 --> 02:43:59,400
THE WORDS I THINK YOU HEAR
MOST OFTEN ON SET ARE
1315
02:43:59,400 --> 02:44:01,100
"MAKE IT UP.
MAKE YOURSELF COMFORTABLE.
1316
02:44:01,100 --> 02:44:05,000
PUT IT IN YOUR OWN WORDS.
IF YOU GET AN IDEA, GO WITH IT."
1317
02:44:05,000 --> 02:44:07,200
EVEN IF I HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING
LIKE, "WOODY, NOBODY SAYS
1318
02:44:07,600 --> 02:44:08,900
'VALISE,'" YOU KNOW,
"I CAN'T SAY 'VALISE.'"
1319
02:44:08,900 --> 02:44:10,700
AND HE'LL SAY,
"WELL, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY?"
1320
02:44:10,700 --> 02:44:12,000
"I HAVE A SUITCASE,"
HE'LL SAY,
1321
02:44:12,400 --> 02:44:13,700
"FINE, SAY 'SUITCASE.'
IT DOESN'T MATTER.
1322
02:44:13,700 --> 02:44:15,400
"SAY WHATEVER YOU THINK,
1323
02:44:15,400 --> 02:44:18,000
AS LONG AS IT HAS THE SAME
INTENTION AS THE LINE."
1324
02:44:18,000 --> 02:44:20,600
SOME OF THE DIRECTIONS
WOULD BE LIKE, YOU KNOW,
1325
02:44:21,100 --> 02:44:22,800
"WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS
VERY GOOD BUT, YOU KNOW,
1326
02:44:22,700 --> 02:44:26,600
THERE'S A KNICKS GAME AND...
SPEED IT UP."
1327
02:44:26,600 --> 02:44:29,200
"YOU'VE GOT TO MOVE THIS ALONG
BECAUSE I'VE GOT TO LEAVE.
1328
02:44:29,200 --> 02:44:31,400
THE KNICKS ARE PLAYING."
SURE.
1329
02:44:31,400 --> 02:44:34,800
I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PATIENCE,
IN LIFE, OR IN GENERAL,
1330
02:44:34,800 --> 02:44:39,200
SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE
THE PATIENCE TO DO ANOTHER TAKE.
1331
02:44:39,600 --> 02:44:42,200
IF I'VE GOTTEN WHAT I WANT,
1332
02:44:42,200 --> 02:44:45,700
THEN I WANT TO MOVE ON,
FINISH, AND GO HOME.
1333
02:44:45,700 --> 02:44:48,700
I DON'T HAVE THE CONCENTRATION
OR THE DEDICATION
1334
02:44:48,700 --> 02:44:53,900
THAT YOU REALLY NEED
TO BE A GREAT ARTIST.
1335
02:44:54,400 --> 02:44:57,800
I'D RATHER BE HOME,
WATCHING THE BALLGAME.
1336
02:44:57,800 --> 02:45:01,700
HE IS A VERY EFFICIENT WORKER
AND RUNS HIS SET IN A WAY
1337
02:45:01,700 --> 02:45:05,600
WHERE EVERYONE'S WORKING HARD,
BUT NOBODY'S TAXED
1338
02:45:05,600 --> 02:45:07,400
OR NO ONE'S LIKE,
"OH, MY GOSH,
1339
02:45:07,400 --> 02:45:09,500
I CAN'T BELIEVE WE'RE
ON ANOTHER 18-HOUR DAY."
1340
02:45:09,500 --> 02:45:10,800
YOU ONLY DO
A HANDFUL OF TAKES.
1341
02:45:11,300 --> 02:45:13,900
HE GETS MOST OF HIS FOOTAGE
IN MASTER SHOTS,
1342
02:45:14,300 --> 02:45:16,900
SO HE'LL SHOOT A 4- OR 5-PAGE
SCENE ALL IN ONE SHOT.
1343
02:45:16,900 --> 02:45:20,800
I'D BE CONSCIOUS OF
"OKAY, ONE PAGE TO GO.
1344
02:45:21,300 --> 02:45:23,400
YOU GOT A LINE COMING UP,
YOU GOT A LINE COMING UP."
1345
02:45:23,400 --> 02:45:24,700
BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T WANT
TO SCREW UP BECAUSE THEN YOU
1346
02:45:24,700 --> 02:45:26,900
HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING
AND DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN.
1347
02:45:26,900 --> 02:45:28,200
YOU DIDN'T WANT
TO MESS UP THE TAKE.
1348
02:45:28,600 --> 02:45:29,900
IT'S DAUNTING.
1349
02:45:29,900 --> 02:45:32,500
ALMOST A HUNDRED YEARS AFTER
THE ABOLITION OF SLAVERY,
1350
02:45:32,500 --> 02:45:35,100
A MAN COULDN'T PLAY
A GAME OF BASEBALL
1351
02:45:35,100 --> 02:45:38,200
IN THE BIG LEAGUES IF HIS
SKIN COLOR WAS BLACK, OKAY?
1352
02:45:38,200 --> 02:45:39,500
YOU'RE HARPING
ON ONE POINT.
1353
02:45:39,900 --> 02:45:43,400
OKAY, FORGET BLACKS!
TAKE JEWS.
1354
02:45:43,800 --> 02:45:44,700
WHAT?
HERE WE GO.
1355
02:45:45,100 --> 02:45:46,400
FOR YEARS, THEY RESTRICTED
THE NUMBER OF JEWS
1356
02:45:46,400 --> 02:45:48,100
IN SCHOOL --
MEDICAL SCHOOL.
1357
02:45:48,100 --> 02:45:50,300
IN AMERICA, AS MUCH AS
THEY HATED BLACKS,
1358
02:45:50,300 --> 02:45:51,600
THEY HATE JEWS
EVEN MORE.
1359
02:45:52,100 --> 02:45:52,900
WHY?
1360
02:45:52,900 --> 02:45:54,200
BLACKS, THEY WERE SCARED
HAD TOO BIG A PENIS.
1361
02:45:54,700 --> 02:45:56,000
JEWS, THEY HATED, EVEN
WITH LITTLE PENISES.
1362
02:45:56,000 --> 02:45:57,300
FOR GOD'S SAKE,
I'M EATING!
1363
02:45:57,700 --> 02:46:01,200
AFTER I DID MY FIRST SCENE,
HE CAME UP TO ME AND SAID,
1364
02:46:01,600 --> 02:46:03,800
"THAT WASN'T HORRIBLE."
1365
02:46:03,800 --> 02:46:05,500
[ LAUGHS ]
1366
02:46:05,500 --> 02:46:08,500
BUT THIS NOTION THAT I HEAR
THAT HE DOESN'T DIRECT,
1367
02:46:09,000 --> 02:46:12,000
I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF
RIDICULOUS.
1368
02:46:12,000 --> 02:46:13,700
HE GETS WHAT HE WANTS.
1369
02:46:13,700 --> 02:46:16,300
THE THING ABOUT WOODY,
AS A DIRECTOR,
1370
02:46:16,300 --> 02:46:20,200
WAS "JUST GO, BE THERE
AND DO WHATEVER YOU WANT
1371
02:46:20,200 --> 02:46:23,300
AND MESS UP THE LINES AND
TURN YOUR BACK TO THE CAMERA
1372
02:46:23,300 --> 02:46:25,900
AND LET'S GRAB IT HERE
AND LETS GO."
1373
02:46:26,300 --> 02:46:27,600
YOU GOT TO GO BACK
TO YOUR SHRINK.
1374
02:46:28,100 --> 02:46:29,400
I WANT YOU TO SEE
DR. BALLARD AGAIN.
1375
02:46:29,400 --> 02:46:30,700
LARRY, I WENT
FOR TWO YEARS!
1376
02:46:31,100 --> 02:46:32,400
YEAH, I KNOW,
BUT YOU KNOW HOW
1377
02:46:32,400 --> 02:46:34,100
GENERAL MOTORS WILL
RECALL DEFECTIVE CARS?
1378
02:46:34,100 --> 02:46:35,400
YOU GOT TO GO IN
FOR A TUNEUP.
1379
02:46:35,900 --> 02:46:37,200
LARRY, WE'LL BE IN AND OUT
IN FIVE MINUTES, HONEY.
1380
02:46:37,200 --> 02:46:39,300
NO, NO,
I'M TELLING YOU!
1381
02:46:39,300 --> 02:46:41,100
I'M YOUR HUSBAND.
I COMMAND YOU TO SLEEP!
1382
02:46:41,100 --> 02:46:42,400
WELL, I --
SLEEP!
1383
02:46:42,400 --> 02:46:43,700
NO!
I COMMAND IT! I COMMAND IT!
1384
02:46:43,700 --> 02:46:45,400
IT WAS SO EASY.
1385
02:46:45,800 --> 02:46:49,700
IT WAS SO SIMPLE
AND RELAXED AND FUN
1386
02:46:50,200 --> 02:46:52,800
AND NO PRESSURE
AND NOBODY EXPECTED ANYTHING
1387
02:46:52,800 --> 02:46:55,400
AND I'VE NEVER WORKED
WITH ANYBODY LIKE THAT, EVER.
1388
02:46:55,400 --> 02:46:57,600
THIS MUSICAL WE DID,
"EVERYONE SAYS I LOVE YOU,"
1389
02:46:57,600 --> 02:46:59,700
WE HAD A VERY INVOLVED
SEQUENCE WITH GOLDIE HAWN
1390
02:46:59,700 --> 02:47:03,600
WHICH INVOLVED DANCING
WITH WIRES IN PARIS.
1391
02:47:03,600 --> 02:47:05,400
AS FAR AS WOODY
WAS CONCERNED,
1392
02:47:05,400 --> 02:47:07,100
"OH, WE'LL JUST SHOW UP
AND DO IT ON THE DAY."
1393
02:47:07,100 --> 02:47:08,800
I SAID, "WELL, YOU KNOW,
THERE'S, LIKE,
1394
02:47:08,800 --> 02:47:12,700
ALL THESE FLYING RIGS AND,
YOU KNOW, DANCE CHOREOGRAPHY
1395
02:47:12,700 --> 02:47:15,300
AND, I MEAN, THIS ALL
HAS TO BE WORKED OUT.
1396
02:47:15,300 --> 02:47:17,900
WE JUST CAN'T SHOW UP
ON THE DAY WITH, YOU KNOW,
1397
02:47:17,900 --> 02:47:22,300
WITH A HUNDRED GUYS
ON THE QUAY."
1398
02:47:22,300 --> 02:47:24,400
I USED TO HAVE TO, LIKE,
DRAG HIM, KICKING AND SCREAMING,
1399
02:47:24,400 --> 02:47:27,900
FOR, LIKE, ONE OR TWO REHEARSALS
FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
1400
02:47:28,300 --> 02:47:32,300
♪ JUST YOU ♪
1401
02:47:32,300 --> 02:47:35,300
♪ JUST ME ♪
1402
02:47:35,300 --> 02:47:38,300
♪ LET'S FIND
A COZY SPOT ♪
1403
02:47:38,300 --> 02:47:41,400
♪ WHERE NO ONE
CAN SEE ♪
1404
02:47:41,800 --> 02:47:44,800
Allen: I WANTED TO DO THE OLD-
FASHIONED KIND OF MUSICAL,
1405
02:47:45,300 --> 02:47:48,300
WHERE I USED
OLD-FASHIONED SONGS.
1406
02:47:48,300 --> 02:47:53,900
I DIDN'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING
MORE INNOVATIVE OR MODERN,
1407
02:47:53,900 --> 02:47:57,400
I JUST, YOU KNOW, WANTED
TO GET PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW,
1408
02:47:57,400 --> 02:48:00,900
LIKE TO SING IN THE SHOWER
OR COULDN'T SING.
1409
02:48:01,300 --> 02:48:03,900
NONE OF THAT
MATTERED TO ME.
1410
02:48:03,900 --> 02:48:07,000
♪ WHAT ARE
MY ARMS FOR? ♪
1411
02:48:07,000 --> 02:48:11,700
♪ USE YOUR
IMAGINATION ♪
1412
02:48:11,700 --> 02:48:13,000
♪ JUST US ♪
1413
02:48:13,000 --> 02:48:15,200
♪ JUST THE TWO
OF US ♪
1414
02:48:15,200 --> 02:48:20,400
Allen: THAT FILM
HAS GOT ITS FANS,
1415
02:48:20,400 --> 02:48:23,000
BUT IT WAS NOT
A HUGE SUCCESS.
1416
02:48:23,400 --> 02:48:24,700
I DID IT,
LIKE ALL MY FILMS,
1417
02:48:25,200 --> 02:48:27,800
FOR THE FEW PEOPLE
WHO LIKE IT.
1418
02:48:30,800 --> 02:48:33,400
Feeney: IT'S INTERESTING,
BECAUSE OF THE AUTEUR THEORY,
1419
02:48:33,800 --> 02:48:36,000
THERE WERE A LOT
OF FILMMAKERS WHO FELT,
1420
02:48:36,000 --> 02:48:38,200
"NO, I HAVE TO MAKE
A GREAT FILM."
1421
02:48:38,200 --> 02:48:40,400
PEOPLE FELT OBLIGED
TO TOP THEMSELVES.
1422
02:48:40,400 --> 02:48:43,400
WOODY ALLEN HAS NEVER FELT
OBLIGED TO TOP HIMSELF.
1423
02:48:43,400 --> 02:48:46,900
HE'S FELT OBLIGED TO DO
WHATEVER INTERESTS HIM MOST,
1424
02:48:46,900 --> 02:48:49,000
TO GO THERE WITH
A FULL COMMITMENT,
1425
02:48:49,500 --> 02:48:51,600
BUT WHEN HE'S DONE,
HE MOVES ON,
1426
02:48:51,600 --> 02:48:54,200
AND HE JUST -- HE MOVES
RIGHT INTO THE NEXT THING.
1427
02:48:54,700 --> 02:48:57,300
Allen: "DECONSTRUCTING HARRY"
WAS BASED ON THE PREMISE
1428
02:48:57,300 --> 02:49:00,700
THAT YOU LEARNED ABOUT
THE CHARACTER AND HIS LIFE
1429
02:49:00,700 --> 02:49:03,300
FROM WHAT HE WROTE.
1430
02:49:03,300 --> 02:49:07,200
SO HARRY WAS A WRITER
WHO'S HAVING A WRITER'S BLOCK
1431
02:49:07,700 --> 02:49:12,900
AND WAS GOING THROUGH BAD CHILD
CUSTODY STUFF WITH HIS EX-WIFE.
1432
02:49:13,300 --> 02:49:16,400
SICK, SICK, SICK
[BLEEP] BASTARD.
1433
02:49:16,400 --> 02:49:18,500
AND I THOUGHT THAT
WOULD BE INTERESTING,
1434
02:49:19,000 --> 02:49:20,300
THAT WHAT HE WROTE WAS TELLING
1435
02:49:20,300 --> 02:49:23,700
AND MAYBE EVEN SOMETIMES
MORE TELLING ABOUT HIM
1436
02:49:24,200 --> 02:49:26,800
THAN HOW HE CARRIED ON
IN HIS ACTUAL LIFE.
1437
02:49:26,800 --> 02:49:28,500
I LIKE IT.
1438
02:49:28,500 --> 02:49:33,700
A CHARACTER WHO'S TOO NEUROTIC
TO FUNCTION IN LIFE,
1439
02:49:33,700 --> 02:49:38,500
THAT CAN ONLY FUNCTION IN ART.
1440
02:49:38,500 --> 02:49:40,200
Allen: NOW HARRY'S
NOTHING LIKE ME.
1441
02:49:40,200 --> 02:49:41,900
I'VE NEVER HAD
A WRITER'S BLOCK IN MY LIFE.
1442
02:49:42,400 --> 02:49:44,100
YOU KNOW, I WOULD NEVER
HAVE THE NERVE
1443
02:49:44,600 --> 02:49:46,300
TO KIDNAP A CHILD
IN A CUSTODY THING.
1444
02:49:46,700 --> 02:49:48,900
I -- THAT'S NOT MY LIFE.
1445
02:49:48,900 --> 02:49:51,100
WHAT'S THE MAN LIKE?
1446
02:49:51,100 --> 02:49:52,800
IT'S ME, THINLY DISGUISED.
1447
02:49:52,800 --> 02:49:54,500
IN FACT,
I-I DON'T EVEN THINK
1448
02:49:55,000 --> 02:49:56,700
I SHOULD
DISGUISE IT ANYMORE.
1449
02:49:56,700 --> 02:49:58,400
IT'S --
YOU KNOW, I-IT'S ME.
1450
02:49:58,400 --> 02:49:59,700
UH-HUH.
1451
02:50:00,200 --> 02:50:03,600
IN THE LATE '90s AND THEN INTO
THE TURN OF THE NEXT CENTURY,
1452
02:50:03,600 --> 02:50:06,700
SOME PEOPLE WERE STARTING
TO WRITE HIM OFF,
1453
02:50:06,700 --> 02:50:08,400
SAYING THAT HE WAS PLAYED OUT.
1454
02:50:08,400 --> 02:50:11,400
THERE'S A PERIOD THAT COMES
AFTER "DECONSTRUCTING HARRY"
1455
02:50:11,400 --> 02:50:13,600
WHERE I JUST HAD TO THINK
OF IT AS WOODY ADRIFT,
1456
02:50:14,000 --> 02:50:15,800
BECAUSE HE WAS MAKING
A FILM A YEAR.
1457
02:50:15,800 --> 02:50:18,000
THEY WERE COMING OUT STEADILY,
1458
02:50:18,000 --> 02:50:21,400
BUT THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT
WAS OFF IN FILM AFTER FILM.
1459
02:50:21,900 --> 02:50:24,000
YOU KNOW, AND THERE WOULD ALWAYS
BE SOMETHING THAT WAS ON
1460
02:50:24,000 --> 02:50:25,800
IN FILM AFTER FILM
AT THE SAME TIME.
1461
02:50:26,200 --> 02:50:28,800
BUT YOU'D SEE AND YOU'D GO INTO
EACH NEW WOODY ALLEN FILM
1462
02:50:28,800 --> 02:50:30,500
AND HOPE,
'CAUSE YOU NEVER DO KNOW.
1463
02:50:30,500 --> 02:50:33,600
I SUGGESTED ONCE TO HIM,
1464
02:50:33,600 --> 02:50:37,000
"WHAT IF YOU WERE ONLY MAKING
ONE FILM EVERY TWO YEARS?
1465
02:50:37,500 --> 02:50:39,600
"WOULDN'T THAT BE
MORE OF AN EVENT?
1466
02:50:40,100 --> 02:50:41,800
"WOULDN'T PEOPLE JUST FEEL LIKE
1467
02:50:41,800 --> 02:50:44,400
THERE WAS SOMETHING
SPECIAL ABOUT IT?"
1468
02:50:44,800 --> 02:50:48,300
AND HE SAID, "NO, THAT MAKES
NO SENSE AT ALL."
1469
02:50:48,300 --> 02:50:51,800
HE JUST HAS TO BE
OUT THERE MAKING FILMS.
1470
02:50:51,800 --> 02:50:54,800
HE'S ALWAYS BEEN A PERSON
WHO'S DONE WHAT HE WANTED,
1471
02:50:54,800 --> 02:50:57,900
WHETHER IT WAS MOVING
FROM "BANANAS" TO "ANNIE HALL"
1472
02:50:57,900 --> 02:51:00,500
OR MOVING FROM "ANNIE HALL"
TO "INTERIORS."
1473
02:51:00,500 --> 02:51:02,200
THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN...
1474
02:51:02,600 --> 02:51:04,800
HIS CAREER HAS BEEN GUIDED
PURELY BY HIS SENSE
1475
02:51:05,200 --> 02:51:07,400
OF WHAT'S THE RIGHT
THING FOR HIM TO DO,
1476
02:51:07,400 --> 02:51:10,000
NOT "WHAT DOES THE AUDIENCE
WANT ME TO DO?"
1477
02:51:10,000 --> 02:51:12,600
AND HE'S NOT AFRAID TO FAIL.
THAT'S THE THING, TOO.
1478
02:51:13,000 --> 02:51:15,200
LIKE, FAILURE DOES NOTH--
HE KIND OF --
1479
02:51:15,200 --> 02:51:16,500
YOU CAN TELL
1480
02:51:16,900 --> 02:51:19,500
HE KIND OF APPROACHES IT
LIKE A BASEBALL PLAYER.
1481
02:51:20,000 --> 02:51:22,600
LIKE, "OKAY, I'LL GET 'EM
THE NEXT TIME."
1482
02:51:22,600 --> 02:51:26,900
I'M WILLING TO FAIL WITHOUT
ANY PROBLEM WHATSOEVER.
1483
02:51:26,900 --> 02:51:29,100
I JUST -- I DRAW THE LINE
1484
02:51:29,100 --> 02:51:32,600
AT AN OBVIOUS, FLAGRANT
COMMITTING SUICIDE.
1485
02:51:32,600 --> 02:51:37,800
I DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT
COMMERCIAL SUCCESS,
1486
02:51:38,200 --> 02:51:41,200
AND THE END RESULT
IS I RARELY ACHIEVE IT.
1487
02:51:41,200 --> 02:51:44,300
SEE, THAT'S ONE OF THE GREAT
THINGS ABOUT WOODY.
1488
02:51:44,300 --> 02:51:47,300
HE REALLY DOESN'T GIVE A HOOT
WHAT ANYBODY SAYS ABOUT HIM,
1489
02:51:47,700 --> 02:51:50,300
YOU KNOW, WHICH I THINK
1490
02:51:50,300 --> 02:51:55,100
IS THE HALLMARK OF
AN ARTISTIC SENSIBILITY,
1491
02:51:55,100 --> 02:51:59,900
AS OPPOSED TO KIND OF A MORE
NORMAL MOVIE-MAKING SENSIBILITY.
1492
02:51:59,900 --> 02:52:02,500
YOU KNOW, HOW CAN YOU
GET TOO CAUGHT UP
1493
02:52:02,500 --> 02:52:04,700
IN REVIEWS
OR HOW THE MOVIE'S DOING
1494
02:52:04,700 --> 02:52:06,800
IF YOU'RE ALREADY ON
TO YOUR NEXT MOVIE?
1495
02:52:07,300 --> 02:52:09,000
WHICH IS PROBABLY
A GOOD WAY TO BE,
1496
02:52:09,400 --> 02:52:12,900
'CAUSE IT KIND OF PROTECTS YOU
A LITTLE BIT FROM, YOU KNOW,
1497
02:52:12,900 --> 02:52:14,600
"HOW'S THIS DOING?"
1498
02:52:14,600 --> 02:52:16,400
OR "WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS
ON THIS?"
1499
02:52:16,800 --> 02:52:19,000
IT'S AN ARTIST
1500
02:52:19,400 --> 02:52:21,100
WHO CONTINUALLY PAINTS
1501
02:52:21,100 --> 02:52:23,300
AND HAS TO BE HEARD FROM
AND HAS TO --
1502
02:52:23,700 --> 02:52:25,000
MAYBE.
1503
02:52:25,000 --> 02:52:26,300
I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU DO THIS,
1504
02:52:26,800 --> 02:52:28,500
BUT DO YOU DO IT
SO THAT YOU KNOW YOU'RE ALIVE
1505
02:52:28,500 --> 02:52:30,700
AND YOU WANT TO LET PEOPLE
KNOW YOU'RE ALIVE
1506
02:52:30,700 --> 02:52:32,000
AND YOU'RE STILL THINKING
1507
02:52:32,000 --> 02:52:33,300
AND YOU'RE STILL IN THERE
PUNCHING?
1508
02:52:33,700 --> 02:52:35,500
YOU KNOW, I THINK PROBABLY
THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
1509
02:52:35,500 --> 02:52:37,600
HOW MANY GREAT FILMS
HAS HE MADE?
1510
02:52:37,600 --> 02:52:39,800
A LOT.
YOU KNOW, SO HE'S MADE
1511
02:52:39,800 --> 02:52:42,000
A FEW CLUNKERS,
BUT EVEN THE CLUNKERS,
1512
02:52:42,000 --> 02:52:44,100
THERE'S ALWAYS
SOMETHING ABOUT THEM.
1513
02:52:44,100 --> 02:52:45,400
ALWAYS.
1514
02:52:45,400 --> 02:52:46,700
THAT'S ART.
1515
02:52:47,200 --> 02:52:49,300
I'VE BEEN WORKING ON
THE QUANTITY THEORY.
1516
02:52:49,800 --> 02:52:52,800
I FEEL IF I KEEP MAKING FILMS
AND JUST KEEP MAKING THEM,
1517
02:52:52,800 --> 02:52:55,400
EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE,
I'LL GET LUCKY
1518
02:52:55,400 --> 02:52:58,400
AND ONE WILL COME OUT,
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS.
1519
02:52:58,900 --> 02:53:01,000
I JUST WILL NEVER FORGET,
YOU KNOW,
1520
02:53:01,000 --> 02:53:03,200
AFTER
"CURSE OF THE JADE SCORPION,"
1521
02:53:03,200 --> 02:53:04,500
AFTER "ANYTHING ELSE,"
1522
02:53:04,500 --> 02:53:07,100
AFTER ALL THOSE FILMS
THAT SEEMED TO WANDER...
1523
02:53:07,100 --> 02:53:08,900
IN A THEATER, SEEING A MOVIE.
1524
02:53:08,900 --> 02:53:11,000
OKAY, HERE'S A COMING ATTRACTION
1525
02:53:11,000 --> 02:53:12,800
FOR A FILM
THAT'S SET IN BRITAIN.
1526
02:53:13,200 --> 02:53:14,900
IT'S A THRILLER,
1527
02:53:14,900 --> 02:53:18,000
AND IT LOOKS REALLY INTENSE,
AND IT'S GOT A GOOD CAST.
1528
02:53:18,000 --> 02:53:19,300
PEOPLE ARE NUDGING,
"HEY, LET'S SEE THIS."
1529
02:53:19,700 --> 02:53:21,000
Man:
SO YOU'RE THREATENING ME?
1530
02:53:21,000 --> 02:53:22,700
IF I DON'T DO WHAT YOU SAY,
YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO MY WIFE.
1531
02:53:22,700 --> 02:53:24,500
HELLO?
1532
02:53:24,500 --> 02:53:26,200
WHO KEEPS CALLING?
1533
02:53:26,200 --> 02:53:27,100
YOU LIED TO ME.
1534
02:53:27,500 --> 02:53:28,400
YOU'RE A LIAR!
1535
02:53:28,400 --> 02:53:29,700
YOU CAN LEARN
TO PUSH THE GUILT
1536
02:53:29,700 --> 02:53:31,400
UNDER THE RUG
AND GO ON.
1537
02:53:31,800 --> 02:53:33,600
OTHERWISE,
IT OVERWHELMS YOU.
1538
02:53:34,000 --> 02:53:35,300
[ GUNSHOT ]
1539
02:53:35,700 --> 02:53:37,500
Feeney: AND THEN,
SUDDENLY, BOOM --
1540
02:53:37,500 --> 02:53:39,200
"WRITTEN AND DIRECTED
BY WOODY ALLEN."
1541
02:53:39,200 --> 02:53:41,800
"MATCH POINT."
HELLO, WHAT'S THIS?
1542
02:53:41,800 --> 02:53:44,000
I GREW UP ON WOODY ALLEN MOVIES,
1543
02:53:44,400 --> 02:53:47,500
SO, FOR ME, WORKING WITH WOODY
WAS ALWAYS --
1544
02:53:47,500 --> 02:53:50,100
THAT WAS LIKE, YOU MADE IT.
1545
02:53:50,100 --> 02:53:52,700
YOU HAVE TO LEAN IN
1546
02:53:52,700 --> 02:53:55,300
AND HIT THROUGH
THE BALL.
1547
02:53:55,300 --> 02:53:59,600
I WAS DOING JUST FINE
UNTIL YOU SHOWED UP.
1548
02:54:00,000 --> 02:54:02,200
AH, THE STORY OF MY LIFE.
1549
02:54:02,600 --> 02:54:03,900
SO TELL ME,
1550
02:54:04,400 --> 02:54:06,500
WHAT'S A BEAUTIFUL YOUNG
AMERICAN PING PONG PLAYER
1551
02:54:06,500 --> 02:54:09,100
DOING MINGLING AMONGST
THE BRITISH UPPER CLASS?
1552
02:54:14,400 --> 02:54:16,100
DID ANYONE
EVER TELL YOU
1553
02:54:16,100 --> 02:54:18,700
YOU PLAY A VERY
AGGRESSIVE GAME?
1554
02:54:20,900 --> 02:54:24,800
DID ANYONE EVER TELL YOU
YOU HAVE VERY SENSUAL LIPS?
1555
02:54:28,200 --> 02:54:30,000
EXTREMELY AGGRESSIVE.
1556
02:54:30,000 --> 02:54:32,600
"MATCH POINT" IS SEXY.
1557
02:54:33,000 --> 02:54:35,600
IT'S A SEXY, SEXY MOVIE.
1558
02:54:35,600 --> 02:54:37,300
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
1559
02:54:37,300 --> 02:54:39,100
I MEAN --
I MEAN, IT'S MORE SEXUAL
1560
02:54:39,100 --> 02:54:43,000
THAN ANYTHING FROM GUYS
HALF HIS AGE.
1561
02:54:43,400 --> 02:54:45,600
THIS CAN'T
LEAD ANYPLACE.
1562
02:54:48,200 --> 02:54:49,900
Johansson: IT'S FUNNY,
BECAUSE WHEN WE WERE SHOOTING
1563
02:54:49,900 --> 02:54:51,700
"MATCH POINT," WE SHOT THAT
SCENE IN THE WHEAT FIELD,
1564
02:54:52,100 --> 02:54:53,800
AND IT'S POURING RAIN,
1565
02:54:53,800 --> 02:54:56,400
AND I'M, OF COURSE,
ALLERGIC TO WHEAT.
1566
02:54:56,400 --> 02:55:00,300
WOODY KNOWS THIS AND THINKS
IT'S HILARIOUS, I'M SURE.
1567
02:55:00,300 --> 02:55:03,400
I'M DYING AND SINUS-Y
AND MUCOUS-Y
1568
02:55:03,400 --> 02:55:06,400
AND ITCHY AND FEELING
NOT SEXY AT ALL.
1569
02:55:06,400 --> 02:55:09,000
NOT TO MENTION THE FACT
THAT JONATHAN RHYS MEYERS
1570
02:55:09,000 --> 02:55:11,200
TOTALLY SPLIT MY LIP
IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCENE
1571
02:55:11,200 --> 02:55:12,900
WITH HIS TOOTH.
1572
02:55:13,300 --> 02:55:15,500
WOODY WOULD SAY THINGS LIKE,
"IT LOOKED -- IT LOOKED --
1573
02:55:15,500 --> 02:55:18,100
"NO, I SAW THE DAILIES THE OTHER
DAY, AND THEY WERE GOOD.
1574
02:55:18,100 --> 02:55:20,300
"VERY -- I-I LIKED -- I THINK
IT'S -- I THINK IT'S --
1575
02:55:20,300 --> 02:55:22,000
I THINK IT'S WORKING.
I THINK IT'S WORKING."
1576
02:55:22,000 --> 02:55:24,200
YOU KNOW, AND YOU'RE JUST LIKE,
"OKAY, WOODY, I--
1577
02:55:24,600 --> 02:55:26,800
"WELL, IF YOU THINK
IT'S WORKING, THEN IT MEANS
1578
02:55:26,800 --> 02:55:29,400
WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANY RESHOOTS
OF THAT LAST SCENE."
1579
02:55:29,400 --> 02:55:33,300
IT WAS ONE OF THE BEST SUMMERS
OF MY LIFE SHOOTING THAT MOVIE.
1580
02:55:33,300 --> 02:55:35,000
I HAD SUCH AN INCREDIBLE TIME.
1581
02:55:35,000 --> 02:55:38,900
AND PART OF THAT WAS REALLY JUST
FORMING A FRIENDSHIP WITH WOODY.
1582
02:55:38,900 --> 02:55:42,400
WE JUST WERE TWO PEAS IN A POD.
1583
02:55:42,800 --> 02:55:44,600
I FEEL VERY LUCKY
1584
02:55:45,000 --> 02:55:48,000
TO BE SITTING ON
THIS COUCH WITH --
1585
02:55:48,000 --> 02:55:49,800
WITH A PROVEN GENIUS.
1586
02:55:49,800 --> 02:55:53,300
YOU KNOW, I WEAR THE MANTLE
OF GREATNESS WITH HUMILITY.
1587
02:55:53,300 --> 02:55:55,000
I MEAN, I THINK YOU HAVE TO.
1588
02:55:55,000 --> 02:55:58,000
IT IS LONELY AT THE TOP.
WHOEVER SAID THAT KNEW.
1589
02:55:58,000 --> 02:55:59,800
YOU KNOW,
MAYBE IF SHE WAS --
1590
02:55:59,800 --> 02:56:01,900
IF I WAS A LITTLE
LESS INTELLIGENT,
1591
02:56:01,900 --> 02:56:05,000
OR MAYBE SHE WAS SLIGHTLY
BRIGHTER OR SOMETHING...
1592
02:56:05,000 --> 02:56:07,600
OR IF YOU HAD KIND OF BROWN --
MORE BROWNISH HAIR.
1593
02:56:07,600 --> 02:56:10,200
YEAH, MAYBE IF I HAD
BROWNISH HAIR OR IF I WAS --
1594
02:56:10,200 --> 02:56:12,800
YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS WHAT
WOULD HAVE HAPPENED?
1595
02:56:12,800 --> 02:56:15,400
SCARLETT, YOU KNOW,
IS A CRIPPLER.
1596
02:56:15,400 --> 02:56:18,800
BUT LIKE ANY ARTIST,
YOU HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING.
1597
02:56:18,800 --> 02:56:21,000
IT CAN'T ALL BE TECHNIQUE.
1598
02:56:21,000 --> 02:56:23,200
AND WITH SCARLETT
1599
02:56:23,600 --> 02:56:26,200
AND PENéLOPE,
THEY'RE SAYING SOMETHING.
1600
02:56:26,700 --> 02:56:29,300
I THOUGHT WE COULD GO FOR A RIDE
TO THE COUNTRYSIDE LATER.
1601
02:56:29,300 --> 02:56:33,200
I MEAN, YOU KNOW,
THE WEATHER IS BEAUTIFUL.
1602
02:56:33,200 --> 02:56:36,200
[ SPEAKING SPANISH ]
1603
02:56:36,200 --> 02:56:37,900
IN ENGLISH.
1604
02:56:38,400 --> 02:56:39,700
OH, NO, IT'S FINE.
1605
02:56:39,700 --> 02:56:42,300
YOU SPEAK NO SPANISH?
1606
02:56:42,700 --> 02:56:45,300
NO, I-I, UH,
STUDIED CHINESE.
1607
02:56:45,300 --> 02:56:47,900
CHINESE?
1608
02:56:50,100 --> 02:56:51,800
WHY?
1609
02:56:51,800 --> 02:56:53,500
WHEN WE WERE IN BARCELONA,
1610
02:56:54,000 --> 02:56:57,000
AND THEY TOOK PENéLOPE
AND JAVIER AND WHATEVER,
1611
02:56:57,000 --> 02:57:00,100
THEY WERE SO WORRIED
ABOUT GETTING FIRED.
1612
02:57:00,100 --> 02:57:01,400
I KEPT ON SAYING,
"DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
1613
02:57:01,800 --> 02:57:02,700
"YOU TWO ARE SO GREAT.
1614
02:57:03,100 --> 02:57:04,800
YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE
ANYTHING TO WORRY ABOUT."
1615
02:57:04,800 --> 02:57:06,100
THAT WAS THEIR MAIN CONCERN,
1616
02:57:06,100 --> 02:57:07,900
'CAUSE WOODY HAS
THAT REPUTATION.
1617
02:57:07,900 --> 02:57:10,900
[ ARGUING IN SPANISH ]
1618
02:57:24,800 --> 02:57:26,500
Cruz: HE COMPLETELY TRUSTED
JAVIER AND I
1619
02:57:26,500 --> 02:57:29,100
WITH THE TRANSLATION
FROM THE ENGLISH TO SPANISH,
1620
02:57:29,100 --> 02:57:31,300
BECAUSE WE DID
THE TRANSLATION OURSELVES,
1621
02:57:31,300 --> 02:57:33,000
AND WE IMPROVISED SO MUCH.
1622
02:57:33,000 --> 02:57:34,800
AND HE WAS ALWAYS WALKING
AROUND THE SET --
1623
02:57:35,200 --> 02:57:37,800
"I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THESE TWO
ARE SAYING, BUT I TRUST THEM."
1624
02:57:38,200 --> 02:57:39,500
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY SAID.
1625
02:57:40,000 --> 02:57:41,700
I MEAN, THEY COULD
HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT,
1626
02:57:41,700 --> 02:57:44,700
YOU KNOW, BUILDING
AN ATOMIC BOMB OR SOMETHING.
1627
02:57:44,700 --> 02:57:47,800
I MEAN, I JUST KNOW THE MOVIE
SEEMED TO GO OVER WITH PEOPLE,
1628
02:57:47,800 --> 02:57:50,400
SO THEY MUST HAVE BEEN DOING
SOMETHING CORRECT.
1629
02:57:50,400 --> 02:57:53,000
IS IT REASONABLE OF ME
TO ASK YOU
1630
02:57:53,000 --> 02:57:55,600
IF YOU WILL BOTH JOIN ME
IN MY ROOM?
1631
02:57:55,600 --> 02:57:57,700
I'M ENGAGED TO BE MARRIED.
1632
02:57:57,700 --> 02:58:02,100
I HAVE A HANDSOME, LOVELY FIANCé
WHO I MAKE LOVE WITH
1633
02:58:02,100 --> 02:58:05,100
AND ALSO HOLDS A VERY REAL
PLACE IN MY HEART,
1634
02:58:05,100 --> 02:58:07,700
AND TO BE PERFECTLY FRANK,
JUAN ANTONIO,
1635
02:58:07,700 --> 02:58:09,900
IF I WERE THE TYPE OF PERSON
THAT PLAYED AROUND,
1636
02:58:09,900 --> 02:58:11,600
I DON'T THINK
IT'S IN THE CARDS FOR US.
1637
02:58:11,600 --> 02:58:13,400
AND YOU?
1638
02:58:13,800 --> 02:58:16,800
I'LL GO TO YOUR ROOM, BUT...
1639
02:58:17,300 --> 02:58:19,900
YOU HAVE TO SEDUCE ME.
1640
02:58:19,900 --> 02:58:23,300
HE LOVES WOMEN,
HE APPRECIATES WOMEN.
1641
02:58:23,300 --> 02:58:29,000
HE HAS WRITTEN SOME OF THE BEST
FEMALE CHARACTERS OF ALL TIME.
1642
02:58:29,000 --> 02:58:33,700
AND I LOVE HOW WELL
HE KNOWS NEUROTIC WOMEN.
1643
02:58:33,700 --> 02:58:35,900
I KNOW I'M NOT
GOING TO SETTLE
1644
02:58:36,400 --> 02:58:38,500
TILL I FIND WHAT
I'M LOOKING FOR.
1645
02:58:39,000 --> 02:58:42,400
WHICH IS WHAT?
1646
02:58:42,900 --> 02:58:45,900
UM...
1647
02:58:45,900 --> 02:58:48,100
SOMETHING ELSE.
1648
02:58:48,500 --> 02:58:52,000
I WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT,
SOMETHING MORE,
1649
02:58:52,400 --> 02:58:54,600
SOME SORT OF...
1650
02:58:54,600 --> 02:58:57,200
COUNTERINTUITIVE LOVE.
1651
02:58:58,900 --> 02:59:01,900
MEANING?
1652
02:59:01,900 --> 02:59:05,000
MEANING...
1653
02:59:05,000 --> 02:59:07,600
[ Chuckling ] I DON'T KNOW.
1654
02:59:07,600 --> 02:59:09,700
I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WANT.
1655
02:59:09,800 --> 02:59:12,400
I ONLY KNOW
WHAT I DON'T WANT.
1656
02:59:12,400 --> 02:59:14,500
AND IF YOU DON'T START
UNDRESSING ME SOON,
1657
02:59:15,000 --> 02:59:17,100
THIS IS GOING TO TURN INTO
A PANEL DISCUSSION.
1658
02:59:19,300 --> 02:59:21,000
Feeney: HE'S CAST THAT SCENE
SO PERFECTLY
1659
02:59:21,500 --> 02:59:23,600
THAT THOSE TWO ACTORS
CAN BRING OFF THEIR OWN HEAT,
1660
02:59:24,100 --> 02:59:26,200
BUT THEY ALSO ARE VERY
COMFORTABLE WITH THE BRAININESS
1661
02:59:26,700 --> 02:59:28,000
OF THE THINGS THEY'RE SAYING.
1662
02:59:28,000 --> 02:59:30,600
IT FEELS LIKE
A MUCH YOUNGER FILMMAKER
1663
02:59:30,600 --> 02:59:32,300
BECAUSE IT FEELS SO IMMEDIATE.
1664
02:59:32,700 --> 02:59:36,200
BUT IT'S ALSO SOMEBODY IN
HIS 70s KNOWING WHAT LOVE IS,
1665
02:59:36,200 --> 02:59:37,900
KNOWING WHAT ATTRACTION IS,
1666
02:59:37,900 --> 02:59:40,500
AND BEING ABLE
TO REPRESENT IT WELL.
1667
02:59:40,500 --> 02:59:44,900
YOU AGE, BUT YOU DON'T --
1668
02:59:44,900 --> 02:59:48,400
UNTIL YOU'RE REALLY
PUT OUT OF COMMISSION,
1669
02:59:48,800 --> 02:59:53,100
YOU CAN STILL DO THAT STUFF,
AND YOU KNOW WHAT TO SAY,
1670
02:59:53,100 --> 02:59:58,300
AND YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY
IN RETALIATION ALL THE TIME.
1671
02:59:58,800 --> 03:00:02,200
SO, I HAVEN'T REACHED
THE AGE YET
1672
03:00:02,200 --> 03:00:05,300
WHERE ALL THAT'S BEHIND ME.
1673
03:00:05,300 --> 03:00:09,600
BUT THERE WILL COME A DAY WHEN
I'LL JUST BE ABLE TO SAY,
1674
03:00:10,000 --> 03:00:11,800
"WHAT? WHAT?
1675
03:00:12,200 --> 03:00:14,400
CAN YOU MOVE YOUR LIPS?
WHAT?"
1676
03:00:14,400 --> 03:00:16,100
YOU KNOW. [LAUGHS]
1677
03:00:16,100 --> 03:00:18,300
AND THEN -- THEN I WON'T --
1678
03:00:18,300 --> 03:00:21,300
I WON'T BE ABLE TO DO
THOSE SCENES IN MY LIFE,
1679
03:00:21,300 --> 03:00:24,800
SO I WON'T BE ABLE
TO WRITE THEM SO WELL.
1680
03:00:33,500 --> 03:00:37,800
THERE ARE A LOT OF SURPRISES
THAT HAPPEN BETWEEN WRITING IT,
1681
03:00:37,800 --> 03:00:41,300
DOING IT, AND SEEING IT
ON THE SCREEN.
1682
03:00:41,300 --> 03:00:43,000
MOST SURPRISES ARE NEGATIVE.
1683
03:00:43,400 --> 03:00:46,500
MOST SURPRISES ARE THAT YOU
THOUGHT SOMETHING
1684
03:00:46,500 --> 03:00:50,400
WAS GOOD OR FUNNY,
AND IT'S NOT.
1685
03:00:50,400 --> 03:00:53,400
I'VE MADE JUST ABOUT
40 FILMS IN MY LIFE,
1686
03:00:53,900 --> 03:00:57,300
AND SO FEW OF THEM HAVE REALLY
BEEN WORTH ANYTHING
1687
03:00:57,800 --> 03:00:59,100
BECAUSE IT'S NOT EASY.
1688
03:00:59,500 --> 03:01:02,100
IF IT WAS EASY,
IT WOULDN'T BE FUN,
1689
03:01:02,100 --> 03:01:05,600
IT WOULDN'T BE VALUABLE.
1690
03:01:05,600 --> 03:01:08,600
McGrath: HE GAVE ME THIS THEORY
THAT STAYED WITH ME EVER SINCE,
1691
03:01:08,600 --> 03:01:10,300
AND I THOUGHT
IT WAS REALLY GREAT.
1692
03:01:10,800 --> 03:01:13,400
HE SAID, "EVERY MOVIE HAS
A SORT OF AMOUNT OF TIME
1693
03:01:13,400 --> 03:01:15,500
THAT AN AUDIENCE WILL SIT
FOR THAT STORY."
1694
03:01:15,500 --> 03:01:21,600
SO HE IS RUTHLESS ABOUT LOOKING
AT EVERYTHING AND SAYING,
1695
03:01:22,000 --> 03:01:24,200
"IT'S GOOD, BUT NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
IT'S OUT."
1696
03:01:24,200 --> 03:01:26,400
LET'S RUN THROUGH IT
A LITTLE BIT.
1697
03:01:26,400 --> 03:01:29,400
I THOUGHT JUST THE SPARKLER
AND THE TEST TUBES.
1698
03:01:29,400 --> 03:01:30,700
Man: YOU WANT TO GO BACK
1699
03:01:31,200 --> 03:01:32,500
AND MAKE SOME MORE
OF THOSE OTHERS THEN?
1700
03:01:32,900 --> 03:01:33,800
YEAH, LET'S GO BACK.
1701
03:01:34,200 --> 03:01:35,900
LET'S TRIM THE CUT
BEFORE THAT.
1702
03:01:35,900 --> 03:01:38,500
I WOULD JUST USE THAT
AND THAT'S IT.
1703
03:01:38,500 --> 03:01:41,100
I WOULDN'T USE ANYTHING
AFTER THAT.
1704
03:01:41,100 --> 03:01:43,700
I'D MOVE IN TO THAT AND LOSE
ALL THE FOOTAGE AFTER THAT.
1705
03:01:43,700 --> 03:01:45,000
Allen: WHEN I FIRST
STARTED EDITING,
1706
03:01:45,500 --> 03:01:47,200
WE EDITED WITH A MOVIEOLA,
1707
03:01:47,200 --> 03:01:50,700
WHICH IS REALLY, UH,
LIKE AN OLD MODEL T.
1708
03:01:51,100 --> 03:01:55,000
AND WE SPLICED,
AND THE FILM WAS SPLICED,
1709
03:01:55,000 --> 03:01:56,300
AND WE LOOKED AT IT,
1710
03:01:56,800 --> 03:01:59,400
AND ALL THOSE FILMS
GOT MADE ON MOVIEOLAS
1711
03:01:59,400 --> 03:02:01,500
AND STEENBECKS FOR DECADES.
1712
03:02:01,500 --> 03:02:03,700
AND THEY WERE FINE,
THEY WERE NO PROBLEM.
1713
03:02:03,700 --> 03:02:08,000
AND IT WAS MORE TEDIOUS,
AND IT WOULD TAKE WEEKS.
1714
03:02:08,500 --> 03:02:12,400
NOW I CAN EDIT A PICTURE
IN FOUR OR FIVE DAYS,
1715
03:02:12,400 --> 03:02:16,700
FROM A TECHNICAL POINT OF VIEW,
WITHOUT A PROBLEM
1716
03:02:16,700 --> 03:02:19,700
BECAUSE MY EDITOR
IS PUNCHING IN KEYS,
1717
03:02:19,700 --> 03:02:21,500
AND IT GOES VERY, VERY FAST.
1718
03:02:21,900 --> 03:02:24,500
BUT, YOU KNOW,
THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE
1719
03:02:24,500 --> 03:02:26,700
BETWEEN WHAT YOU SET OUT TO MAKE
1720
03:02:26,700 --> 03:02:29,300
AND WHAT YOU MAKE
ALMOST EVERY TIME.
1721
03:02:29,300 --> 03:02:32,300
Man: HER EX-HUSBAND,
ALFIE SHEPRIDGE.
1722
03:02:32,300 --> 03:02:35,400
HE AWOKE IN THE MIDDLE
OF THE NIGHT,
1723
03:02:35,400 --> 03:02:38,400
THOUGHT ABOUT ETERNITY,
BROKE OUT IN A SWEAT,
1724
03:02:38,400 --> 03:02:41,000
AND IT'S BEEN JOGGING
AND HEALTH FOODS EVER SINCE.
1725
03:02:41,000 --> 03:02:43,200
IS THAT THE BEST -- IS THAT
THE BEST ONE WE HAVE ON HIM
1726
03:02:43,600 --> 03:02:45,300
OR DO WE HAVE --
DO WE HAVE A MORE --
1727
03:02:45,300 --> 03:02:46,600
ANGLES.
1728
03:02:46,600 --> 03:02:48,400
LET'S JUST CHECK AND SEE IF
WE HAVE AN ANGRIER ONE.
1729
03:02:48,400 --> 03:02:50,500
JUST THE "THAT'S ENOUGH"
WOULD DO IT.
1730
03:02:50,500 --> 03:02:53,100
SO IT'S A FAST CUT
TO HIM.
1731
03:02:53,100 --> 03:02:55,300
[ SPEAKING IN REVERSE ]
1732
03:02:55,700 --> 03:02:57,900
THAT'S ENOUGH.
STOP IT.
1733
03:02:58,300 --> 03:03:00,100
ALL RIGHT.
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
1734
03:03:00,100 --> 03:03:03,100
YOU KNOW, BY THE TIME YOU GET
THE THING TOGETHER,
1735
03:03:03,100 --> 03:03:04,400
IT'S SUCH A MESS,
1736
03:03:04,900 --> 03:03:08,800
AND YOU'RE FLITTING
AROUND THE EDITING ROOM
1737
03:03:08,800 --> 03:03:12,700
MAKING ALL SORTS OF COMPROMISES
AND SAYING,
1738
03:03:12,700 --> 03:03:15,300
"OH, GEE, IF I PUT
THE LAST SCENE FIRST
1739
03:03:15,300 --> 03:03:19,200
"AND THE MIDDLE SCENE, YOU KNOW,
AT THE END OF THE PICTURE
1740
03:03:19,200 --> 03:03:21,300
"AND GET A NARRATOR
AND USE DISSOLVES
1741
03:03:21,800 --> 03:03:23,900
"AND DO OPTICALS,
AND PUT THIS IN SLOW MOTION
1742
03:03:23,900 --> 03:03:26,100
AND USE TITLES HERE."
1743
03:03:26,100 --> 03:03:28,700
AND YOU'RE STRUGGLING
FOR SURVIVAL.
1744
03:03:28,700 --> 03:03:31,700
AND I STILL SCREW UP
A LOT OF THE TIMES.
1745
03:03:32,200 --> 03:03:33,900
SO THAT'S WHY I'VE OFTEN SAID --
1746
03:03:33,900 --> 03:03:36,500
AND IT SOUNDS FACETIOUS,
BUT I'M SERIOUS --
1747
03:03:37,000 --> 03:03:40,400
THAT THE ONLY THING STANDING
BETWEEN GREATNESS AND ME IS ME.
1748
03:03:40,400 --> 03:03:43,500
YOU KNOW, THERE IS NO EXCUSE.
1749
03:03:43,600 --> 03:03:46,200
Man: MY QUESTION IS
FOR MR. WOODY ALLEN.
1750
03:03:46,600 --> 03:03:48,800
YOUR FILM SAYS MANY THINGS
ABOUT DEATH,
1751
03:03:48,800 --> 03:03:52,200
SO I'D LIKE TO ASK, HOW IS YOUR
RELATIONSHIP WITH DEATH NOW?
1752
03:03:52,700 --> 03:03:55,700
MY RELATIONSHIP WITH DEATH
REMAINS THE SAME.
1753
03:03:55,700 --> 03:03:58,300
I'M STRONGLY AGAINST IT
1754
03:03:58,300 --> 03:04:00,000
AND, UM...
1755
03:04:00,000 --> 03:04:02,200
[ LAUGHTER ]
1756
03:04:02,200 --> 03:04:04,400
[ APPLAUSE ]
1757
03:04:04,400 --> 03:04:08,700
Aronson: WOODY IS NOT HAPPY
TO HAVE TO PROMOTE THE FILMS.
1758
03:04:08,700 --> 03:04:10,500
HE DOESN'T LIKE
DOING INTERVIEWS,
1759
03:04:10,500 --> 03:04:11,800
AND HE ALSO IS A BIG BELIEVER
1760
03:04:12,200 --> 03:04:13,900
THAT NONE OF THE PUBLICITY
EVER HELPS.
1761
03:04:13,900 --> 03:04:16,100
WOODY COMPLAINS
1762
03:04:16,100 --> 03:04:18,300
ABOUT DOING
THE RED CARPET IN CANNES
1763
03:04:18,300 --> 03:04:21,300
OR IN ANY FESTIVAL
OR ANY PREMIERE THAT WE HAVE.
1764
03:04:21,700 --> 03:04:24,300
YOU KNOW,
IT'S A BRIEF PERIOD OF TIME,
1765
03:04:24,300 --> 03:04:28,200
AND I DON'T THINK IT'S AS
TERRIBLE AS HE LIKES TO PORTRAY.
1766
03:04:28,200 --> 03:04:30,000
THE WHOLE THING
1767
03:04:30,000 --> 03:04:33,400
IS A PSYCHOLOGICAL
NIGHTMARE FOR ME,
1768
03:04:33,400 --> 03:04:35,200
BUT MY WIFE LIKES CANNES,
1769
03:04:35,200 --> 03:04:37,300
THE KIDS LIKE CANNES.
1770
03:04:37,300 --> 03:04:40,800
THE DISTRIBUTORS OF THE FILM,
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THEM.
1771
03:04:40,800 --> 03:04:43,900
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I DO IT.
1772
03:04:44,300 --> 03:04:47,800
IT'S A SURREAL,
PREPOSTEROUS THING,
1773
03:04:47,800 --> 03:04:51,200
BECAUSE THERE'S NO EXPERIENCE
IN REALITY
1774
03:04:51,200 --> 03:04:53,800
WHERE YOU'RE IN A TUXEDO
AND YOU'RE WALKING UP
1775
03:04:53,800 --> 03:04:54,700
A RED CARPET.
1776
03:04:55,100 --> 03:04:57,300
HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS
OF PEOPLE
1777
03:04:57,700 --> 03:05:00,300
ARE SCREAMING YOUR NAME,
AND FLASHBULBS GOING OFF.
1778
03:05:00,300 --> 03:05:02,900
THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN
TO A SCHOOLTEACHER
1779
03:05:03,400 --> 03:05:06,400
OR A COLLEGE PROFESSOR,
OR A DOCTOR OR -- YOU KNOW.
1780
03:05:06,400 --> 03:05:09,400
IT HAS NO REALITY TO IT.
1781
03:05:09,400 --> 03:05:11,600
WOODY!
1782
03:05:12,000 --> 03:05:13,300
WOODY!
1783
03:05:13,300 --> 03:05:14,200
WOODY!
1784
03:05:14,600 --> 03:05:17,300
WOODY!
1785
03:05:17,300 --> 03:05:19,900
WOODY!
1786
03:05:19,900 --> 03:05:21,600
WE'LL BE
PASSING AMONG THEM,
1787
03:05:21,600 --> 03:05:23,300
THROWING SOME RAW MEAT
IN A LITTLE WHILE.
1788
03:05:23,300 --> 03:05:24,600
[ LAUGHS ]
1789
03:05:24,600 --> 03:05:26,400
I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A PERFORMER,
AS WELL,
1790
03:05:26,400 --> 03:05:27,700
SO, FOR ME, IT'S NOT DIFFICULT.
1791
03:05:28,100 --> 03:05:30,300
I CAN ADDRESS, YOU KNOW,
1792
03:05:30,700 --> 03:05:32,900
200 PEOPLE OR 100 PEOPLE
1793
03:05:32,900 --> 03:05:36,800
AND SIT AT ROUND TABLES
WITH PEOPLE DOING INTERVIEWS.
1794
03:05:37,200 --> 03:05:38,900
YOU KNOW, I'M USED TO IT.
1795
03:05:39,400 --> 03:05:42,000
AND I'M USED TO DOING
TWO AND THREE SHOWS A NIGHT
1796
03:05:42,000 --> 03:05:43,700
AND DOING NIGHTCLUBS
AND, SO, YOU KNOW,
1797
03:05:44,100 --> 03:05:45,900
IT'S NOT --
NOT SO DIFFICULT FOR ME.
1798
03:05:45,900 --> 03:05:47,600
Man: WOODY ALLEN!
1799
03:05:47,600 --> 03:05:49,800
Allen: WHEN YOU GO
TO A SCREENING
1800
03:05:49,800 --> 03:05:52,800
LIKE HERE IN CANNES,
THE PEOPLE ARE FRIENDLY,
1801
03:05:52,800 --> 03:05:54,100
THEY'RE ROOTING FOR YOU.
1802
03:05:54,600 --> 03:05:55,900
THEY LOVE YOU.
1803
03:05:55,900 --> 03:05:57,600
THEY'RE, YOU KNOW,
IN A FESTIVE MOOD,
1804
03:05:58,000 --> 03:05:59,300
AND THEY'RE HERE TO SEE FILMS.
1805
03:05:59,300 --> 03:06:03,700
AND SO THE FACT THAT THEY'RE
CLAPPING AND ALL OF THAT,
1806
03:06:03,700 --> 03:06:06,700
AND THE STARS OF THE FILM
THAT THEY'VE JUST SEEN
1807
03:06:07,100 --> 03:06:09,300
ARE RIGHT THERE LIVE,
AND THEY STAND UP.
1808
03:06:09,300 --> 03:06:11,000
OF COURSE THEY'RE GOING
TO BE SUPPORTIVE
1809
03:06:11,000 --> 03:06:13,600
JUST OUT OF COMMON POLITENESS.
1810
03:06:13,600 --> 03:06:16,700
YOU HAVE TO LEARN NOT
TO TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY.
1811
03:06:17,100 --> 03:06:21,000
WELL, IT WAS A COMPLETELY
FAKE REACTION BY THE AUDIENCE.
1812
03:06:21,400 --> 03:06:23,200
THEY FAKED IT VERY WELL?
1813
03:06:23,200 --> 03:06:25,800
THEY FAKED IT, YEAH.
THEY'RE GOOD AT THAT.
1814
03:06:25,800 --> 03:06:28,000
THAT'S HOW THEY KEEP
THE FESTIVAL GOING.
1815
03:06:28,000 --> 03:06:31,000
Allen: NOBODY EVER COMES UP
TO YOU AND SAYS ANYTHING BAD,
1816
03:06:31,000 --> 03:06:35,300
SO YOU LEARN TO DISREGARD
ALL THE COMPLIMENTS THAT YOU GET
1817
03:06:35,300 --> 03:06:37,100
BECAUSE THEY NEVER
MEAN ANYTHING.
1818
03:06:37,100 --> 03:06:38,800
YEAH, GERMANY LOVES YOU.
1819
03:06:38,800 --> 03:06:40,100
OH. WHO, GEMMA?
1820
03:06:40,500 --> 03:06:41,800
GERMANY.
1821
03:06:41,800 --> 03:06:44,000
OH, GERMANY!
THE ENTIRE COUNTRY?
1822
03:06:44,400 --> 03:06:45,700
ENTIRE COUNTRY.
1823
03:06:45,700 --> 03:06:47,500
GREAT.
A LOT OF PEOPLE.
1824
03:06:47,500 --> 03:06:48,800
A LOT OF PEOPLE.
1825
03:06:51,400 --> 03:06:54,800
I'D LOVE TO COME UP
WITH AN IDEA
1826
03:06:55,300 --> 03:06:56,600
THAT PLEASED MULTITUDES
1827
03:06:57,000 --> 03:07:00,500
AND, YOU KNOW, HUGE SWARMS
OF PEOPLE TURNED OUT
1828
03:07:00,500 --> 03:07:03,500
AND SAW THE PICTURE TWO
AND THREE TIMES,
1829
03:07:04,000 --> 03:07:06,100
AND IT BROKE BOX OFFICE RECORDS,
1830
03:07:06,100 --> 03:07:10,900
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S EVER
GOING TO HAPPEN IN MY LIFETIME.
1831
03:07:19,100 --> 03:07:22,200
Tenenbaum: "MIDNIGHT IN PARIS"
HAS GONE ON TO BE
1832
03:07:22,200 --> 03:07:23,900
THE LARGEST GROSSING MOVIE
1833
03:07:23,900 --> 03:07:25,600
THAT WOODY ALLEN HAS EVER HAD,
1834
03:07:26,100 --> 03:07:27,800
WORLDWIDE AS WELL
AS IN AMERICA.
1835
03:07:27,800 --> 03:07:30,900
AT THE PRESENT TIME,
1836
03:07:30,900 --> 03:07:33,900
"MIDNIGHT IN PARIS" HAS CROSSED
THE $50 MILLION MARK
1837
03:07:34,300 --> 03:07:37,400
IN BOX OFFICE.
1838
03:07:37,400 --> 03:07:40,400
WORLDWIDE,
IT'S AT ABOUT $106 MILLION.
1839
03:07:40,400 --> 03:07:43,400
SO MY GUESS IS WE'LL BE
WELL ABOVE $120,
1840
03:07:43,900 --> 03:07:46,000
$125 MILLION
BEFORE WE'RE DONE.
1841
03:07:46,000 --> 03:07:48,600
Wilson: IT'S LIKE IT'S A SMASH.
1842
03:07:48,600 --> 03:07:50,800
IT'S LIKE HE'S MICHAEL BAY
ALL OF A SUDDEN.
1843
03:07:50,800 --> 03:07:52,100
[ LAUGHS ]
1844
03:07:52,500 --> 03:07:55,600
I DON'T THINK HE HAS
A GREAT EXPECTATION
1845
03:07:55,600 --> 03:07:59,900
OF HIS MOVIES ARE GOING TO,
YOU KNOW, MAKE MUCH MONEY HERE.
1846
03:08:00,300 --> 03:08:02,100
I THINK A LOT OF IT'S THE TITLE.
1847
03:08:02,100 --> 03:08:06,400
HE SAID THAT HE CAME UP WITH
THE TITLE "MIDNIGHT IN PARIS"
1848
03:08:06,400 --> 03:08:09,000
BEFORE HE HAD ANY STORY.
1849
03:08:09,000 --> 03:08:12,100
AND SO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LOVE,
YOU KNOW, THAT CITY,
1850
03:08:12,100 --> 03:08:16,000
AND IT HAS SUCH A HOLD ON
PEOPLE'S IMAGINATION.
1851
03:08:16,000 --> 03:08:18,100
AND IT'S GOTTEN
SOME GOOD REVIEWS,
1852
03:08:18,100 --> 03:08:21,200
AND SO IT SEEMS LIKE PEOPLE
ARE TURNING OUT FOR THIS ONE.
1853
03:08:23,800 --> 03:08:26,400
WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
1854
03:08:26,400 --> 03:08:28,500
I DON'T KNOW.
1855
03:08:28,500 --> 03:08:30,300
I...
1856
03:08:36,800 --> 03:08:40,300
I DID FEEL, FOR A MINUTE
THERE WHILE I WAS DOING IT,
1857
03:08:40,300 --> 03:08:44,200
LIKE I WAS IMMORTAL.
1858
03:08:44,200 --> 03:08:45,900
BUT YOU LOOK SO SAD.
1859
03:08:45,900 --> 03:08:49,400
BECAUSE LIFE
IS TOO MYSTERIOUS.
1860
03:08:49,400 --> 03:08:52,000
THIS IS THE TIME
WE LIVE IN.
1861
03:08:52,400 --> 03:08:54,600
EVERYTHING MOVES SO FAST,
1862
03:08:55,000 --> 03:08:58,500
AND LIFE IS NOISY
AND COMPLICATED.
1863
03:08:58,500 --> 03:09:00,600
Allen: IT'S A HAPPY ACCIDENT,
1864
03:09:00,600 --> 03:09:04,500
BECAUSE YOU TRY AND MAKE
A GOOD FILM EVERY TIME OUT.
1865
03:09:05,000 --> 03:09:08,000
AND FOR SOME REASON,
"MIDNIGHT IN PARIS"
1866
03:09:08,400 --> 03:09:12,400
WAS AFFECTIONATELY
EMBRACED BY PEOPLE.
1867
03:09:12,800 --> 03:09:14,500
I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE.
1868
03:09:16,300 --> 03:09:18,000
Aronson: I DO BELIEVE
1869
03:09:18,000 --> 03:09:19,700
THIS IS THE HAPPIEST
I'VE EVER KNOWN WOODY.
1870
03:09:20,200 --> 03:09:23,600
HE'S IN A GOOD RELATIONSHIP,
HE HAS TWO LOVELY CHILDREN,
1871
03:09:24,100 --> 03:09:25,400
HE'S VERY DEVOTED TO THEM.
1872
03:09:25,800 --> 03:09:28,400
HE SEEMS TO ENJOY HIS LIFE.
1873
03:09:28,400 --> 03:09:31,000
HE'S DOING THE WORK
THAT HE LIKES.
1874
03:09:31,000 --> 03:09:34,900
THIS IS DEFINITELY
THE HAPPIEST I'VE SEEN HIM.
1875
03:09:34,900 --> 03:09:37,100
I LOVE THAT HIS FATHER
LIVED TO BE 100
1876
03:09:37,100 --> 03:09:38,800
AND HIS MOTHER
LIVED TO BE 96,
1877
03:09:38,800 --> 03:09:41,800
BECAUSE HE'S CLEARLY TAKING
GREAT CARE OF HIMSELF ANYWAY,
1878
03:09:41,800 --> 03:09:44,900
AND WITH THOSE KIND OF GENES,
IT MEANS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE
1879
03:09:44,900 --> 03:09:47,900
WOODY ALLEN AT THE AGE OF 105
STILL MAKING A FILM A YEAR.
1880
03:09:47,900 --> 03:09:52,300
GLOOMY AS HE IS ABOUT
THE PROSPECTS OF IMMORTALITY,
1881
03:09:52,300 --> 03:09:54,900
I THINK HE HAS A FAIR CHANCE,
1882
03:09:54,900 --> 03:09:59,600
WITH A HANDFUL OF OTHER
FILMMAKERS OF ROUGHLY HIS TIME,
1883
03:09:59,600 --> 03:10:03,100
TO HAVE A NICE LITTLE PLACE
IN HISTORY.
1884
03:10:03,500 --> 03:10:07,000
I HAVE REFERRED TO WOODY ALLEN
IN THE PAST AS ALBERT CAMUS,
1885
03:10:07,000 --> 03:10:08,700
AS COMEDIAN.
1886
03:10:08,700 --> 03:10:10,900
CAMUS SAID,
"I DO NOT WANT TO DIE.
1887
03:10:10,900 --> 03:10:13,100
"I DO NOT WANT
ANYONE I LOVE TO DIE.
1888
03:10:13,500 --> 03:10:16,500
"I AM GOING TO DIE, AND EVERYONE
I LOVE IS GOING TO DIE,
1889
03:10:16,500 --> 03:10:18,300
AND THAT MAKES LIFE ABSURD."
1890
03:10:18,300 --> 03:10:21,800
AND WOODY BELIEVES THAT,
BUT HE'S ABLE TO WEAVE IN HUMOR.
1891
03:10:21,800 --> 03:10:25,200
NOW, I THINK IT PROBABLY DOES
MAKE IT A BIT MORE PALATABLE.
1892
03:10:25,700 --> 03:10:29,100
BUT I WOULD WANT TO ASK HIM,
IF LIFE REALLY IS ABSURD
1893
03:10:29,600 --> 03:10:32,600
AND HORRIBLE AND BRUTAL,
WHY ARE WE LAUGHING?
1894
03:10:32,600 --> 03:10:34,300
BUT SHOULDN'T
I STOP MAKING MOVIES
1895
03:10:34,800 --> 03:10:36,100
AND DO SOMETHING
THAT COUNTS,
1896
03:10:36,100 --> 03:10:37,800
LIKE HELPING BLIND PEOPLE
1897
03:10:37,800 --> 03:10:40,000
OR BECOMING A MISSIONARY
OR SOMETHING?
1898
03:10:40,000 --> 03:10:41,700
LET ME TELL YOU,
YOU'RE NOT THE MISSIONARY TYPE.
1899
03:10:41,700 --> 03:10:42,600
YOU'D NEVER LAST.
1900
03:10:42,600 --> 03:10:44,700
AND INCIDENTALLY,
YOU'RE ALSO NOT SUPERMAN.
1901
03:10:44,700 --> 03:10:46,000
YOU'RE A COMEDIAN.
1902
03:10:46,500 --> 03:10:48,200
YOU WANT TO DO MANKIND
A REAL SERVICE?
1903
03:10:48,200 --> 03:10:49,500
TELL FUNNIER JOKES!
1904
03:10:49,900 --> 03:10:52,600
YEAH, BUT I-I'VE GOT
TO FIND MEANING.
1905
03:10:54,300 --> 03:10:56,500
Allen: WHEN I LOOK BACK
ON MY LIFE,
1906
03:10:56,900 --> 03:10:59,100
I'VE BEEN VERY LUCKY
THAT I'VE LIVED OUT
1907
03:10:59,500 --> 03:11:02,100
ALL THESE CHILDHOOD DREAMS.
1908
03:11:02,100 --> 03:11:05,600
I WANTED TO BE A MOVIE ACTOR,
AND I BECAME ONE.
1909
03:11:05,600 --> 03:11:09,000
I WANTED TO BE A MOVIE DIRECTOR
AND A COMEDIAN, I BECAME ONE.
1910
03:11:09,500 --> 03:11:11,600
I WANTED TO PLAY JAZZ
IN NEW ORLEANS,
1911
03:11:11,600 --> 03:11:14,700
AND I PLAYED IN STREET PARADES
AND JOINTS IN NEW ORLEANS
1912
03:11:14,700 --> 03:11:18,600
AND PLAYED IN OPERA HOUSES
AND CONCERTS ALL OVER THE WORLD.
1913
03:11:18,600 --> 03:11:21,200
THERE WAS NOTHING IN
MY LIFE THAT I ASPIRED TOWARD
1914
03:11:21,200 --> 03:11:23,800
THAT HASN'T COME THROUGH FOR ME.
1915
03:11:24,200 --> 03:11:28,600
BUT DESPITE
ALL THESE LUCKY BREAKS,
1916
03:11:29,000 --> 03:11:32,500
WHY DO I STILL FEEL
THAT I GOT SCREWED SOMEHOW?
1917
03:11:32,500 --> 03:11:33,800
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