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>>DAVID WILCOCK: Hello.

Welcome to "Cosmic Disclosure."

I'm your host, David Wilcock, and I'm here

with the insider's insider, Corey Goode.

What we're learning is that the effectiveness

of this whole conspiracy comes out of the fact

that it was all orchestrated by groups that were extremely

secretive from the very get-go.

And specifically, we've been talking

about German esoteric societies.

So Corey, let's talk about that for a moment.

What would happen in one of these German societies?

How do they make sure that somebody is not

going to squeal?

>>COREY GOODE: That was woven into the fabric

of the secret society itself.

These people were very loyal.

They were raised in it from childhood.

And that was their way of life.

Everyone else was an outsider.

Everyone inside were the team, the family.

So going outside to squeal, I mean,

why would that occur to them?

>>DAVID WILCOCK: Let's say 1930s,

as Germany is rising to become another great industrial power,

somebody says, I can't handle this anymore.

I'm tired of this.

I'm out of here.

What would happen to that person?

>>GOODE: Very similar as to what would happen

to one of Al Capone's men that had a similar epiphany

and change of heart.

They would end up pushing up daisies, I guess,

as they would say back then.

>>DAVID: So the point is people are not

apt to want to talk at all.

So you have an esoteric order.

And you said last time they have great physical power.

They're controlling the money system and industry?

>>GOODE: And have for some time.

>>DAVID: How do they enforce loyalty?

Do they have initiatic rights in which

you have to swear to secrecy on pain

of death, things like that?

>>GOODE: Well, there's the whole theater

part of the esoteric belief systems

and black magic and all that.

But it always comes down to the carrot and the stick.

And making someone wealthy while everyone else is

standing in line for bread is a strong motivator.

And if you have a family, you want to provide for them.

And you're made to feel special.

You're made to feel as a part of something bigger, grander.

You're born into something that is bigger than everything

else in the world.

All the other people are useless eaters.

You are important.

What you're doing is important to not just the useless eaters

and humanity but to the future of the planet

and to a very ancient plan that your order or society has

been meticulously working on for many generations.

>>DAVID: Italy was a fascist nation

in World War II that worked hand in glove

on the same goals in the Axis with Germany's

fascist government.

I'm wondering if these German secret societies might

have also spread into neighboring

countries like Austria or Poland or Italy.

Or were they truly just German-centric?

>>GOODE: You have to look way, way back into history,

back into the pre-Christian eras back

when these groups were different pagan tribes.

And these groups-- this is what these societies come from,

way back then.

>>DAVID: Like Celtic?

>>GOODE: Celtic and--

>>DAVID: Druids?

>>GOODE: Druids, all these different groups.

They're very ancient.

>>DAVID: OK.

>>GOODE: And they see their roots going back very far.

And they see it as they own all of that area,

and just as clouds blow across the sky, dynasties change.

But they remain, like the trees on the ground.

>>DAVID: Well, one of the things that puzzled me

as a tangible data point that people

can sink their teeth into, is I did research into ley lines.

And you see things like Stonehenge and Avebury

and Carnac in the northern province of France,

ancient sites with giant stones and then modern sites,

including German Gothic cathedrals, that

are built on these same lines.

So somebody knew to build these cathedrals

and these sacred sites of worship and even government

facilities on these lines.

Would you say that might be one tangible data

point people could look at indicating that there was

a secret knowledge that the public was not being told about

behind where these sites were being constructed?

>>GOODE: Yes, these secret teachings

go back many millennia and are highly guarded.

And a lot of this information has found its way

under the Vatican and the vaults.

And the Jesuits and other groups still have access to it.

There are many other libraries of this sort around, especially

Europe, that these secret societies have access

to these ancient mystery school teachings.

And these mystery school teachings

have information going all the way back

that have several different ancient languages in them that

translate older and older texts.

And it goes further and further back

talking about technology, and technology of people and beings

that come from the heavens.

>>DAVID: You've said before that breakaway civilization

groups living inside the Earth contacted people on the surface

and posed as gods.

>>GOODE: Still do.

>>DAVID: Were there in these European, Celtic,

and Druidic societies, priests or nobility

or royals who had a more technically

involved and accurate contact with

these breakaway civilizations?

>>GOODE: Yes.

The priests of Odin and all these other groups, the priest

caste in just about every one of these ancient civilizations,

they guarded the secret teachings.

They had access to these scrolls, these books,

this information, all the mystery teachings.

They kept the information from the kings, emperors.

They kept the information from the commoners.

And it is from them that a lot of these breakaway secret space

programs and advanced technological, subterranean

civilizations sprung from.

>>DAVID: Are there members of these subterranean

civilizations or space-based civilizations who

are the descendants of people that might have been pulled out

from human life on Earth, maybe even as old as thousands

of years ago or even, let's say, in medieval times?

Has there been a continuing abduction of people from Earth

into these various groups over time?

>>GOODE: Yes, and that is one of the reasons the Germans were

so interested in all of this and they were so focused

on the "master race," because some of these groups that

were coming out from underground and presenting themselves

to them as either ETs, depending on the time period, gods,

and in some cases their forefathers,

were a lot of times blonde-haired, blue-eyed,

and very Caucasian, master-race looking.

The master race that was depicted by these groups

during that late World War I, Word War II era,

they had very much that look about them.

>>DAVID: If people had been pulled from the Earth

into these groups, did those groups interbreed

with those people, or were they used as more

like a slave caste?

>>GOODE: Well, they were more manipulating the surface.

>>DAVID: Oh.

>>GOODE: They were teaching them agriculture to have

them provide agriculture as an offering to them.

So with these groups, it was more

about manipulating the surface population

to have a return in what they considered an investment.

>>DAVID: Would you say that the priest caste

you referred to in these Druidic and Celtic

and other societies around the world,

did they have access to space travel and portal technology?

>>GOODE: Some of them definitely did.

>>DAVID: Really?

So there's been, to some degree, certain people

on the surface of the Earth who have had access to space

all throughout our history?

>>GOODE: Yes.

>>DAVID: That were people born on Earth

from human parents on Earth.

>>GOODE: Yes.

Yeah, I had read in the smart glass pads about the Spaniards

chasing some of the Mayan priests that

would run right up to a wall that had a door carved

into a wall that went nowhere, and they

would be holding a bunch of scrolls in their arms.

And they would run up to the door, touch the door,

and then walk into the rock, walk through the rock.

So I mean, that was obviously some sort of portal situation.

>>DAVID: Well, I remember doing an episode

on Ancient Aliens where we talked about this thing

like you're describing, looked like a doorway,

but it was just carved into the side of a rock wall.

And there was almost an identical one in Turkey.

Is Turkey another country that is

really central in these breakaway groups based

on its location near the Mediterranean Sea?

Egypt?

>>GOODE: Yeah, Turkey is a mixture.

There's a breakaway group there.

And there's also an ET group that has settled there.

>>DAVID: Do we know anything about that ET group?

>>GOODE: Yes.

>>DAVID: You don't want to tell us?

>>GOODE: Well, it gets into some of the disturbing stuff.

The groups that are the Sumerian god kind of groups.

>>DAVID: Oh, like Draco type, reptilian type?

>>GOODE: Yeah.

They are more of the negative groups that are also

down in South Africa right now, Marduk and different names

that you would hear.

>>DAVID: What about the breakaway civilization

in Turkey?

Is that similar to the other ones,

or is that a unique group?

>>GOODE: In Turkey mainly, there's

quite a bit of ET activity going on down there.

There's a breakaway group there, but they're

more subservient to the ET group.

Turkey is a very ancient area, and it's

been controlled by a certain ET faction for a very long time.

>>DAVID: I've just been trying to map out some of the terrain

here so we can understand how the Germans end up making

their way out into space here.

This was not the first time that humans from Earth

had made it into space by any means

based on what you're saying.

>>GOODE: Right.

>>DAVID: OK, you also said that these breakaway human

civilizations in the Earth or outside the Earth

were one of the groups that the Germans were channeling

that were helping them find these scrolls that

help them build craft.

I guess what I'm concerned with is

why wouldn't these extraterrestrial or breakaway

Earth group people, why wouldn't they

just give the Germans the technology they already had?

Why were they trying to make the Germans go

through this painstaking process of archaeological excavations

and doing it themselves?

>>GOODE: Well, eventually they did start giving them

more advanced technology.

But they had to develop a certain amount themselves.

>>DAVID: Is that part of the esoteric rules

they have to follow?

>>GOODE: I'm not sure.

But they basically had to prove theirselves

as not only being able to have the engineering and scientific

ability to create this technology and understand it,

but once they got to a certain point,

not only did the Draco group start to give them scientists

to help them and give them technology,

but also the breakaway Agarthan group did the same.

Now, the Draco, this Agarthan group

don't necessarily get along all the time,

and the Germans favored the Agarthan group.

And they were getting a lot of very excellent and very, very

unique technology from these groups.

And they started using it to venture out past our atmosphere

and go to the moon and study the asteroid belt.

And when they went to the moon, they learned very quickly

that the moon was a pretty much hub for many other ET groups

to meet in a neutral area to have bases

to be a part of some grand experiment,

which the Earth is a part of, to observe Earth and be close.

And the Germans had traveled to the moon

and had planned on starting colonies there

and saw that it was pretty hostile to try

to land any place around on the moon and start building.

So they signed, just like we did later on, they

signed agreements with the Draco and also these Agarthan groups.

>>DAVID: When you say "we," you mean the United States

government?

>>GOODE: The United States government, yes.

>>DAVID: Signed a deal with the Draco?

>>GOODE: Well, the United States government

signed deals with several groups.

But the Draco were one of them, as were the Agarthans

and others.

>>DAVID: I'm just curious, did they have any trouble getting

outside the Earth when they tried to fly out of the Earth?

>>GOODE: Once they started flying around and approaching

the moon, they started having some issues with resistance.

And once they formed partnerships

with these Draco, who had a very large portion

area on the back side of the moon that they then fell,

I guess, under their protection.

And then they began to start at first trying

to build their own moon bases and colonies-- that

didn't go very well.

Then they started discovering these very ancient buildings,

very ancient buildings.

And they then found a way to pressurize these buildings

and use them temporarily while they built

a moderate German moon base.

>>DAVID: All right, there's a lot

you just said that I think we need to untangle.

First of all, I want to ask you a really stupid question.

Is there a breathable atmosphere on the moon?

>>GOODE: No.

>>DAVID: Did they have some type of astronaut suit

like what we see later with NASA astronauts to walk on the moon?

>>GOODE: Yes, they developed pressurized scuba-type

rebreather suits.

>>DAVID: And you said that they made early attempts

to build on their own that were not successful?

>>GOODE: Several-- many attempts.

>>DAVID: Did they try to bring native materials from Earth?

Or did they try to build with local materials

they found on the moon?

What was the attempt?

>>GOODE: They would bring some materials from Earth,

and then they would try to build out of the local material,

create concretes with the concrete building technology

that we used on Earth.

And they tried several different techniques.

They had quite a few problems.

There was one group that was involved

with a reptilian reptoid group-- a project that was traveling

not through spacecraft, but through portals to the moon

and apparently back to a different time

period on the moon and were building

above-ground facilities.

And these at some point were abandoned.

And later on, the Secret Space Program

were finding these very ancient buildings with Nazi insignias

and symbols and eagles with swastikas in them.

>>DAVID: You said very ancient?

>>GOODE: Yes.

>>DAVID: What do you mean by very, like 2000 years old?

>>GOODE: Many thousands of years.

>>DAVID: Many thousands?

>>GOODE: Yes.

There's a temporal technology that the Secret Space Program

uses that is kind of like carbon-14 dating,

but it reads a temporal signature of a building that

is constructed.

>>DAVID: Temporal meaning time?

>>GOODE: Time.

>>DAVID: Time signature?

>>GOODE: To be able to tell approximately how old it is.

And I don't recall exactly how old they were,

but they were thousands of years old.

>>DAVID: So this technology is able to tell when

material was last disrupted?

>>GOODE: Right, when it was--

>>DAVID: Or when it was constructed.

>>GOODE: --manipulated.

>>DAVID: So these were highly decrepit buildings?

They were breaking down?

>>GOODE: Dilapidated and falling apart.

>>DAVID: So this is an extraterrestrial technology

that they had access to that allowed them to portal back

into the past?

>>GOODE: Right.

This was a joint operation with reptoids.

>>DAVID: You also said to me in private conversation

that when they started to build on various locations

that they found explosive charges had already

been planted underneath the locations.

>>GOODE: That was the Secret Space Program.

When we would go to build outposts, mainly

security outposts-- and I described

how we built those out of local and materials brought

from home, giant kevlar bags, they

would fill it with the local soil and build up a structure.

I've written about it.

It's a whole long process.

But the engineers that were there

that were using some of this temporal technology

for surveying of the land discovered

that underneath where they were building there were charges

that had been placed there and that somehow someone

had figured out that someday someone's

going to build some sort of facility there and had placed

charges there thousands of years ago.

>>DAVID: Wow.

>>GOODE: And so they found a way to remove them.

>>DAVID: You said that one of the first things

that the Germans did when they went into space

was they went to the asteroid belt.

>>GOODE: Yes.

>>DAVID: Did they see anything that would be considered

strange or unusual by our normal, terrestrial standards

when they went to that area?

>>GOODE: Yes, they found signs that it had already

been mined for quite some time.

>>DAVID: Really?

>>GOODE: That this had obviously been another planet at one

point and very small remnants of Ancient Builder Race technology

were found embedded in some of the asteroids.

>>DAVID: What would a very small remnant of ancient builder race

technology look like?

>>GOODE: Just pieces of their technology, small remnants here

and there that they would find.

>>DAVID: Well, you had described before that it's

going to look like just stone that's very nicely carved,

that kind of stuff?

>>GOODE: Yeah, something that you

would find, it would look like a piece of a diorite or very hard

stone that was shaped in a very unique and pleasing way

to the eye to where you would think an ancient culture

had carved it and maybe it was an altar or, the way we think,

it had some primitive use.

When in reality, it was a very extremely advanced,

multi-dimensional device, and there were many, many asteroids

that-- there had been mining activities

going on for millennia in the asteroid belt.

>>DAVID: And this was something that

was very clearly able to be seen, like strip mining lines,

that kind of thing?

>>GOODE: Yes, big holes in the asteroids

with built-out areas for docking,

for resupply vessels and pickup vessels for picking up

the raw materials.

>>DAVID: Did they ever find smashed spaceships that

had been destroyed by weapons fire

that were just kind of tumbling end over end in the asteroids,

anything like that?

>>GOODE: Most of what I remember them finding was on the moon

after some of the ancient battles.

>>DAVID: Were they able to find ruined ancient craft and gain

something from them, like debris from a technological flying

craft?

>>GOODE: Yeah, that was found on Earth, on the moon, on Mars.

It's been found all over the place.

>>DAVID: Wow.

So you can't breathe on the moon.

So they have these space suits.

And you said they were fascinated

to find Nazi insignia on ancient buildings.

>>GOODE: Yeah, completely stripped buildings

and dilapidated buildings with the eagles

with the talons holding swastikas and German writing,

German script, but anything of value

or useful, it was all stripped.

>>DAVID: So you had said that there

was a Draco area on the moon, that they

had a large tract of land.

And you had said in previous episodes--

>>GOODE: This was on the Draco area.

>>DAVID: OK.

Did the Draco provide material assistance to them,

or were they more just allowed to develop the land

on their own?

>>GOODE: Both.

>>DAVID: OK.

So at what point did the Draco become involved in the building

process, if you said that these early building attempts

they made were unsuccessful?

>>GOODE: They finally built a successful, small base--

>>DAVID: "They" the Germans?

>>GOODE: Germans built a small base

and used that as a jumping-off point.

And then they successfully built a base on Mars as well.

The Draco did not assist them in all of this.

There was a separate base on the moon that

is a joint base that the Draco and the human German breakaway

groups use still to this present day.

And it is a heavy Dark Fleet base.

And it is shaped kind of like a pyramid with the top cut off,

or what would you call that shape?

>>DAVID: Trapezoid?

>>GOODE: Yeah, trapezoid.

>>DAVID: Do you know when that base was constructed?

>>GOODE: This would have been in the '60s, early '70s.

>>DAVID: Did the Draco have their own buildings

in this tract that they owned on the moon before?

>>GOODE: Under.

>>DAVID: Oh, underground.

>>GOODE: Mm-hmm, under the moon.

>>DAVID: So their effort to help the Germans build

their own facility was more just kind

of letting them have their own territory,

feel safe, feel like they got their own home?

>>GOODE: Well, it was a part of a wider plan

of integrating them all together in this control

system over the Earth that the Draco is very much involved in.

>>DAVID: There are movies like "Iron Sky"

talking about stuff like this with Nazi base on the moon.

>>GOODE: I had so many comments on that.

I finally went and saw that ridiculous movie.

>>DAVID: Yeah?

Did they build the building in the shape of a swastika?

>>GOODE: It was in a shape of a swastika originally,

but now that building is now the lunar operation command,

and that has been built out and built over.

That is an old and very small part

of what is now the lunar operation

command that the overall Earth secret space programs use

on a regular basis.

The trapezoid-shaped moon base is off limits to everybody

except for the Draco allied human groups and the Draco.

>>DAVID: Did the Agarthans have any material support

or logistical support in the colonization of the moon

early along?

Or did they kind of back off from that aspect of it?

>>GOODE: They backed off from that aspect of it,

but they do have a presence on the moon.

>>DAVID: So this is "Cosmic Disclosure."

I'm your host, David Wilcock.

We are exploring very fascinating information,

and that's going to continue next time.

So as always, I thank you for watching.

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