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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:07,580 My name's bob cooper. 2 00:01:09,620 --> 00:01:11,550 I'm a former lafayette police detective. 3 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,480 Oh, i handle everything from juvenile cases to homicides. 4 00:01:17,690 --> 00:01:19,280 When i was on the lafayette police department, 5 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,730 I... I think i had a... A reputation, 6 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,580 Um, for being a very good investigator. 7 00:01:25,210 --> 00:01:26,970 You know, i could say i... I care about justice. 8 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,380 That's a cliche. 9 00:01:29,380 --> 00:01:32,000 What i enjoyed most about being a... A police detective 10 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,070 Is the puzzles. 11 00:01:35,100 --> 00:01:37,170 I think one of the reasons that i'm so intrigued 12 00:01:37,170 --> 00:01:39,170 By the... The barnett case 13 00:01:39,170 --> 00:01:41,450 Is this is one of the most difficult ones i've had. 14 00:01:42,380 --> 00:01:44,000 It's like a rubik's cube. 15 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,520 It... It just continues to change. 16 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,070 Just when you think you have it solved, 17 00:01:47,590 --> 00:01:48,690 You find out you don't. 18 00:01:55,170 --> 00:01:58,070 I think the barnetts, when they adopted natalia, 19 00:01:58,590 --> 00:02:00,070 They bought a pig in a poke. 20 00:02:00,070 --> 00:02:01,520 They didn't know what they were getting. 21 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,070 It was more than they... They thought, 22 00:02:03,070 --> 00:02:04,480 That... That they bargained for. 23 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,580 They bought a pig in a poke and they got rid of her. 24 00:02:14,170 --> 00:02:16,170 They put her in a apartment, westfield, indiana. 25 00:02:17,590 --> 00:02:19,280 Michael and... And kristine, 26 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,110 They would almost be a household word 27 00:02:21,100 --> 00:02:24,480 In the social services area in westfield, indiana 28 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,720 Because natalia created more problems 29 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,100 Than they were expecting. 30 00:02:28,100 --> 00:02:31,270 Obviously, they were trying to get her out of that environment 31 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,900 To an environment where she was not known. 32 00:02:33,900 --> 00:02:36,590 And so they finally move her to lafayette, indiana. 33 00:02:39,620 --> 00:02:42,340 "let's get her out of our life," and they did. 34 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,180 They move her an hour away to another county. 35 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:50,790 There are more nice areas in lafayette 36 00:02:50,790 --> 00:02:52,550 Than there are run down neighborhoods. 37 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,790 Where natalia was placed in that apartment 38 00:02:57,790 --> 00:02:59,690 By herself, there's crime in the area. 39 00:03:01,070 --> 00:03:03,240 I think their goal was, "out of sight, out of mind." 40 00:03:04,310 --> 00:03:05,380 This thing will go away. 41 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,410 But that didn't happen 42 00:03:07,410 --> 00:03:09,450 Because lafayette was a wrong town for them to bring her to. 43 00:03:11,790 --> 00:03:13,240 I just... I don't like bull. 44 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:14,970 It's just me. 45 00:03:17,100 --> 00:03:18,890 2013. 46 00:03:18,900 --> 00:03:20,110 The perimeter institute 47 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:22,510 In waterloo, ontario, canada, 48 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,180 Wants jacob, who's 14, 49 00:03:25,170 --> 00:03:27,890 To go there to get his master's degree. 50 00:03:27,900 --> 00:03:30,070 So we're moving to canada. 51 00:03:30,070 --> 00:03:32,280 You'll get those six combinations. 52 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,630 Natalia, she had an apartment for a year 53 00:03:34,620 --> 00:03:36,480 On her own in westfield, indiana. 54 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,690 Natalia's current lease is up. 55 00:03:38,690 --> 00:03:40,350 Another apartment needs to be found. 56 00:03:41,380 --> 00:03:42,520 Kristine and her go out 57 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,550 And they find her an apartment in lafayette, indiana. 58 00:03:46,070 --> 00:03:47,690 This is the best place possible. 59 00:03:49,170 --> 00:03:53,620 I would happily, casually, stroll around that neighborhood. 60 00:03:53,620 --> 00:03:54,590 It is a nice part of town. 61 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,310 This apartment is within two blocks 62 00:03:58,310 --> 00:04:00,900 Of an adult ged center 63 00:04:00,900 --> 00:04:03,520 That she signed up for to get her ged. 64 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,800 It's within two blocks of the bus route... 65 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:07,790 A suicide prevention center, 66 00:04:07,790 --> 00:04:09,270 The salvation army, 67 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,800 A local grocery store that takes her food stamp card. 68 00:04:11,790 --> 00:04:14,170 You couldn't draw a map 69 00:04:14,170 --> 00:04:15,790 And centralize her better 70 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:17,620 To a place that could care for 71 00:04:17,620 --> 00:04:19,170 Any one of her possible needs. 72 00:04:22,280 --> 00:04:23,900 The barnetts thought that this was it, 73 00:04:23,900 --> 00:04:24,970 Problems are solved. 74 00:04:25,790 --> 00:04:27,720 They've washed their hands with this. 75 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,580 Well, then of course, their nightmare ends. 76 00:04:31,280 --> 00:04:33,870 The nightmare being... Being charged with child neglect. 77 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,790 It actually became the beginning of the end. 78 00:04:41,900 --> 00:04:43,180 Get off! 79 00:04:43,170 --> 00:04:45,720 - No, you are not getting that cheese. - No, no, no, no. 80 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:46,690 You can't have that. 81 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:49,890 My name is kyna. 82 00:04:49,900 --> 00:04:51,800 I was natalia's neighbor. 83 00:04:53,170 --> 00:04:54,790 - I have nine cats... 84 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:58,450 Two dogs... 85 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:00,890 Five kids... 86 00:05:02,900 --> 00:05:06,520 Yeah, i have all my kids tattooed on me. 87 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,620 If we adopt him he'll be the sixth. 88 00:05:08,620 --> 00:05:10,000 I ran outta... 89 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,590 Out of limbs, so i had to start 90 00:05:11,590 --> 00:05:13,180 Put on one on another limb. 91 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:14,620 Cheeto! 92 00:05:15,620 --> 00:05:17,590 Don't touch me, cheeto. 93 00:05:17,590 --> 00:05:18,900 Sorry, my house is so noisy. 94 00:05:18,900 --> 00:05:20,110 Uh, check my dogs either. 95 00:05:20,100 --> 00:05:21,960 I need to... I need to check them... 96 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:23,480 Don't lose it. 97 00:05:26,280 --> 00:05:28,380 I've lived in lafayette my whole life, 98 00:05:28,380 --> 00:05:29,450 Born and raised here. 99 00:05:30,070 --> 00:05:31,900 The first time i saw natalia 100 00:05:31,900 --> 00:05:33,590 Was when michael and kristine 101 00:05:33,590 --> 00:05:36,970 Were moving natalia into her apartment. 102 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,380 And i just assumed 103 00:05:39,380 --> 00:05:40,590 That they were the ones 104 00:05:40,590 --> 00:05:42,070 Moving into the apartment, 105 00:05:42,070 --> 00:05:43,550 But i never did see them again. 106 00:05:46,210 --> 00:05:47,730 The first time i met natalia, 107 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,720 She had come over to my house, knocked on the door. 108 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:50,720 I was a little startled 109 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,510 Because i thought it was a little kid at my door. 110 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:53,730 And then she explains to me 111 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:54,890 That she is 22 112 00:05:54,900 --> 00:05:57,310 Or she thought she was 22. 113 00:05:57,310 --> 00:05:58,590 And i thought that was a little bit strange 114 00:05:58,590 --> 00:06:00,730 That she thought she was 22. 115 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,890 And natalia said that she didn't have 116 00:06:02,900 --> 00:06:04,000 Any food over there, 117 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,620 In her home, in her apartment 118 00:06:05,620 --> 00:06:08,380 And that she needed to call her parents 119 00:06:08,380 --> 00:06:10,000 So that she could get some money. 120 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,210 When i handed the telephone, 121 00:06:11,210 --> 00:06:12,730 She didn't know what to do with it. 122 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:13,690 It was like, uh... 123 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,110 You know, like one of those reactions. 124 00:06:16,100 --> 00:06:18,510 Then i said, "well, do you have the phone number?" 125 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,180 "um, no, i don't know it." 126 00:06:20,170 --> 00:06:21,100 So, then that... 127 00:06:21,100 --> 00:06:23,170 The phone, just kinda, just got put aside 128 00:06:23,170 --> 00:06:24,520 And it was, 129 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,870 "um, i'm really hungry. Could i have a sandwich?" 130 00:06:28,590 --> 00:06:30,490 I also thought it was strange 131 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:31,790 That the barnetts 132 00:06:31,790 --> 00:06:33,960 Would put her in a second floor apartment. 133 00:06:35,900 --> 00:06:37,730 To have to climb 16 steps 134 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,410 Plus the three or four on the outside, 135 00:06:40,410 --> 00:06:43,000 That's a lot of steps for someone that small. 136 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,240 She was struggling to climb those steps. 137 00:06:45,690 --> 00:06:47,590 I was kinda stunned. 138 00:06:48,170 --> 00:06:49,790 And even if she was 22, 139 00:06:49,790 --> 00:06:51,890 She has these disabilities, 140 00:06:51,900 --> 00:06:54,000 She has special needs. 141 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,480 Why would you get her a apartment 142 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,580 That she can't navigate? 143 00:06:57,590 --> 00:07:00,380 Going down the steps is extremely dangerous, 144 00:07:00,380 --> 00:07:02,660 So, she could've fell at any point... 145 00:07:04,380 --> 00:07:06,000 And nobody would have known she'd fell. 146 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,210 Nobody would've known it. 147 00:07:07,210 --> 00:07:09,180 I mean, there's so many things that could've happened. 148 00:07:09,170 --> 00:07:10,960 I mean, what if she had burnt the house down? 149 00:07:11,380 --> 00:07:12,310 Uh, it would... 150 00:07:12,310 --> 00:07:14,280 Not only would she have died, 151 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,630 You got all those people below her 152 00:07:15,620 --> 00:07:17,170 In those apartments that could've died. 153 00:07:18,620 --> 00:07:21,170 I just... I felt like she was kinda left to the wolves. 154 00:07:24,170 --> 00:07:26,620 We lived a block away from a village pantry 155 00:07:26,620 --> 00:07:28,410 And there was vagrants 156 00:07:28,410 --> 00:07:29,890 Uh, outside of that place 157 00:07:29,900 --> 00:07:31,730 And there was a homeless shelter. 158 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,130 There's a lot of crime happening. 159 00:07:33,620 --> 00:07:35,790 And, at any point, 160 00:07:35,790 --> 00:07:37,890 Someone could have gotten her to go home with them. 161 00:07:37,900 --> 00:07:41,140 Or, could've just straight up picked her up and snatched her. 162 00:07:41,900 --> 00:07:42,970 Definitely not an area of town 163 00:07:42,970 --> 00:07:45,560 That i would let my kids walk around unattended. 164 00:07:46,210 --> 00:07:47,110 It's gotten to the point 165 00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:49,620 Where not only do i carry a weapon 166 00:07:49,620 --> 00:07:51,690 In my home, on my body, 167 00:07:51,690 --> 00:07:53,730 I carry a weapon outside of my home 168 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,510 On my body at all times. 169 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,380 It's a necessity to be armed. 170 00:07:59,790 --> 00:08:02,860 I hope natalia knows that if i had... 171 00:08:03,900 --> 00:08:06,560 Realized in... During that moment 172 00:08:07,410 --> 00:08:09,000 What was really going on, 173 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,590 I would've took action. 174 00:08:10,590 --> 00:08:13,040 I would've done something to help her. 175 00:08:16,170 --> 00:08:18,170 I just hope she's having a... A good life. 176 00:08:21,100 --> 00:08:24,100 And i... I hope she gets the justice she deserves. 177 00:08:24,100 --> 00:08:25,480 She deserves for, 178 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,170 Um, kristine and michael to... 179 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,590 To go to court. They need to see their day. 180 00:08:36,410 --> 00:08:38,070 Um... 181 00:08:38,070 --> 00:08:40,070 And she just... She just deserves to have... 182 00:08:40,620 --> 00:08:42,760 Um, a circle around her 183 00:08:43,210 --> 00:08:45,000 To make her feel safe. 184 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,970 I can't even imagine how scared she was. 185 00:08:49,900 --> 00:08:51,690 If she was 22, 186 00:08:51,690 --> 00:08:53,280 She, i'm sure, she'd still be scared. 187 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,800 I mean, look how small she was. 188 00:08:55,790 --> 00:08:58,580 How, um, helpless she was. 189 00:08:59,170 --> 00:09:00,650 So, regardless of her age, 190 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:02,350 She was very scared... 191 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:04,580 And alone. 192 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,590 And that situation should have never ever happened. 193 00:09:11,790 --> 00:09:14,690 The truth is, if i saw the barnetts 194 00:09:14,690 --> 00:09:16,380 I probably wouldn't say really anything, 195 00:09:16,380 --> 00:09:17,480 I'd just start swinging. 196 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,280 So let's recap here. 197 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:01,620 The barnetts took 198 00:10:01,620 --> 00:10:03,660 A three foot tall, 199 00:10:04,310 --> 00:10:05,970 Disabled little person, 200 00:10:06,620 --> 00:10:08,480 Put her in an apartment 201 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:09,890 On the second floor, 202 00:10:09,900 --> 00:10:11,690 Where she's gotta scale stairs... 203 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,000 That are dangerous, 204 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,480 Given her disability. 205 00:10:16,900 --> 00:10:18,760 It's in a high crime neighborhood. 206 00:10:20,070 --> 00:10:21,520 She's in an apartment 207 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,040 With no accommodations for her disability. 208 00:10:24,790 --> 00:10:26,100 Couldn't reach the stove, 209 00:10:26,100 --> 00:10:28,480 Couldn't reach the washing machine dial. 210 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,480 First they took her cellphone, 211 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,410 There's no landline in the apartment. 212 00:10:33,410 --> 00:10:35,620 There's absolutely no way for her 213 00:10:35,620 --> 00:10:38,280 To call for help if she needs it. 214 00:10:39,170 --> 00:10:40,410 That gets them in trouble 215 00:10:40,410 --> 00:10:43,410 And so they give her back her cellphone 216 00:10:43,410 --> 00:10:46,070 But they wiped all her contact information 217 00:10:46,070 --> 00:10:47,170 Off her cellphone 218 00:10:47,170 --> 00:10:48,450 And at times... 219 00:10:49,170 --> 00:10:51,000 There was no electricity or food. 220 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,000 So what are the barnetts doing here? 221 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,170 Are they trying to keep her silent? 222 00:10:55,170 --> 00:10:57,450 Are they trying to get rid of her for good? 223 00:11:02,170 --> 00:11:05,200 I spoke to natalia one time, that was it. 224 00:11:05,210 --> 00:11:07,420 I never seen her with parents. 225 00:11:07,410 --> 00:11:09,380 You know, every time i seen her she was... 226 00:11:09,380 --> 00:11:10,970 90% of the time, she was by herself. 227 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,900 Been in the neighborhood since '67. 228 00:11:14,900 --> 00:11:16,690 I've seen it go from bad to worse. 229 00:11:18,210 --> 00:11:20,520 And i've been in trouble before. 230 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,420 You know, i messed up in life. 231 00:11:22,410 --> 00:11:24,070 - I've been to prison. Mmm-Hmm. 232 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,860 Just like i tell anybody, i got a sex offence. 233 00:11:28,690 --> 00:11:30,000 I messed up in life. 234 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,000 - I went, did my time, come back out, you know? Mmm-Hmm. 235 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,720 So i... I watch everything. 236 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,790 - That's what prison taught me, all right. 237 00:11:35,790 --> 00:11:37,790 To be very observant of people, 238 00:11:37,790 --> 00:11:38,890 Your surroundings, 239 00:11:38,900 --> 00:11:39,800 - 'cause you don't wanna get caught up yeah. 240 00:11:39,790 --> 00:11:41,480 - In that moment again mmm-Hmm. 241 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,200 And have something else happen to you. 242 00:11:43,210 --> 00:11:45,730 So, you know, she's a little kid, 243 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:46,750 You know, i've to... 244 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:48,760 Kinda stay away from that. 245 00:11:52,900 --> 00:11:54,520 About a month after she started going 246 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,280 To the lafayette adult reading academy, 247 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:57,870 I just didn't see her come home anymore. 248 00:12:00,100 --> 00:12:01,580 She just disappeared. 249 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:03,280 If you're an underage child 250 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,280 Living by yourself in that kinda surrounding, 251 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,630 You don't know what to look for or what to stay away from. 252 00:12:08,620 --> 00:12:10,000 Nobody there to protect her. 253 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,900 Nobody there to make sure 254 00:12:11,900 --> 00:12:13,730 That nobody even hurt her. 255 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,000 I mean, it... It just really disturbed me. 256 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,900 Natalia could have knocked on any door 257 00:12:17,900 --> 00:12:19,760 And it could have been the last door she knocked on. 258 00:12:27,690 --> 00:12:29,550 One day, when we moved to canada, 259 00:12:30,590 --> 00:12:32,900 We got a phone call from the adult ged center 260 00:12:32,900 --> 00:12:34,070 That she had been signed up for 261 00:12:34,070 --> 00:12:36,040 And she was going to for classes 262 00:12:36,900 --> 00:12:39,180 Asking us if we had heard from or seen natalia. 263 00:12:41,310 --> 00:12:42,310 We don't know what to do. 264 00:12:42,310 --> 00:12:43,310 We start making phone calls. 265 00:12:43,310 --> 00:12:44,480 We start trying to figure things out, 266 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:45,960 We can't figure anything out. 267 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,310 When natalia went missing in lafayette, 268 00:12:49,310 --> 00:12:51,000 Suddenly, michael and kristine 269 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,480 Are worried about her? 270 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:53,760 They weren't worried... 271 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,100 Enough about her safety 272 00:12:56,100 --> 00:12:57,100 To put her in 273 00:12:57,100 --> 00:12:58,310 A first floor apartment 274 00:12:58,310 --> 00:12:59,790 In a safe neighborhood 275 00:12:59,790 --> 00:13:01,240 With a telephone? 276 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,480 What are they really worried about? 277 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,480 Maybe that she is talking to a social worker? 278 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:08,760 Or even the police? 279 00:13:11,170 --> 00:13:12,690 Couple days later, we get a phone call 280 00:13:12,690 --> 00:13:14,760 From the ged center, "don't worry about it. 281 00:13:15,310 --> 00:13:16,790 We've found her." 282 00:13:16,790 --> 00:13:19,170 She is with this lady cynthia mans. 283 00:13:22,410 --> 00:13:24,000 Okay, well, that's concerning. 284 00:13:25,860 --> 00:13:28,070 Because anytime kristine would hear 285 00:13:28,070 --> 00:13:30,860 About natalia had spoken to a neighbor 286 00:13:30,860 --> 00:13:32,690 Or had interacted with a stranger, 287 00:13:32,690 --> 00:13:35,310 Kristine would find out who that was 288 00:13:35,310 --> 00:13:37,480 And she would do what it takes to stop it. 289 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,140 That's her. That's kristine. 290 00:13:39,900 --> 00:13:41,280 She needs to be in control. 291 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,890 So, we try to call cynthia. 292 00:13:44,900 --> 00:13:46,280 We have a conversation with her. 293 00:13:46,860 --> 00:13:48,100 She lets us know, 294 00:13:48,100 --> 00:13:51,240 "she's living with us, everything's fine. She's moved in." 295 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:53,450 She's moved in? 296 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,140 You met her three days ago! 297 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,200 Kristine and i call lafayette police department. 298 00:14:01,210 --> 00:14:02,970 We call adult protective services. 299 00:14:04,170 --> 00:14:06,650 Adult protective services goes out and evaluates the situation 300 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,030 And they report back to us. 301 00:14:10,790 --> 00:14:13,270 They found out that she had a food stamp card 302 00:14:13,790 --> 00:14:15,380 That had $500 on it 303 00:14:15,380 --> 00:14:17,000 And they had spent all the money 304 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,340 On all the foods at their house. 305 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,210 - This. 306 00:14:20,210 --> 00:14:22,110 If you like this give us a thumbs up 307 00:14:22,100 --> 00:14:25,000 - If you don't, give us a sad face. Yeah. 308 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,030 So they just took all of natalia's food money. 309 00:14:27,690 --> 00:14:28,790 What's up? 310 00:14:28,790 --> 00:14:30,240 What's up, people? 311 00:14:31,310 --> 00:14:32,280 A week later, 312 00:14:32,790 --> 00:14:35,000 I get notified by mail 313 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,760 That natalia's social security payments, 314 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:38,690 Which was going to me, 315 00:14:38,690 --> 00:14:40,210 I was paying ourselves back for the rent, 316 00:14:40,210 --> 00:14:42,560 And i was paying her gas bill and her electric bill, 317 00:14:43,380 --> 00:14:44,550 That they're no longer going to me. 318 00:14:45,790 --> 00:14:47,860 Within two weeks of meeting her, 319 00:14:47,860 --> 00:14:50,000 Cynthia took natalia to the social security office 320 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,000 And natalia signed over 321 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,380 Her social security money to her. 322 00:14:53,860 --> 00:14:55,200 They're subletting the apartment 323 00:14:55,210 --> 00:14:57,140 Against the lease's rules. 324 00:14:58,100 --> 00:15:00,270 The mans were making money 325 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,180 Off of natalia's apartment that we paid for in advance. 326 00:15:04,690 --> 00:15:05,660 She was evicted. 327 00:15:06,970 --> 00:15:07,940 There was nothing we could do. 328 00:15:09,690 --> 00:15:12,070 Between 2014 and 2019, 329 00:15:12,070 --> 00:15:14,210 A number of law enforcement agencies 330 00:15:14,210 --> 00:15:17,280 Actively investigated natalia barnett's case. 331 00:15:17,790 --> 00:15:20,100 It culminated in 2019, 332 00:15:20,100 --> 00:15:22,860 When brandon davenport enters the picture. 333 00:15:22,860 --> 00:15:24,690 Once detective davenport 334 00:15:24,690 --> 00:15:27,900 Starts looking into how natalia came 335 00:15:27,900 --> 00:15:30,420 To tippecanoe county, 336 00:15:30,410 --> 00:15:33,960 Things start falling apart for michael and kristine barnett. 337 00:16:11,690 --> 00:16:12,660 Oh, yeah. 338 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,180 2014. 339 00:17:58,170 --> 00:18:03,140 After years and years and years of... Pain and abuse... 340 00:18:03,140 --> 00:18:05,900 And i finally got the courage to leave kristine. 341 00:18:05,900 --> 00:18:08,000 Her and the boys stayed in canada. 342 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,240 I came back to indiana. 343 00:18:09,900 --> 00:18:13,660 And it was a very rough divorce. 344 00:18:13,660 --> 00:18:15,900 It was not amicable. 345 00:18:15,900 --> 00:18:17,070 We lost the most important thing 346 00:18:17,070 --> 00:18:18,520 A marriage can have and that's trust. 347 00:18:45,690 --> 00:18:46,730 There we go. 348 00:18:48,380 --> 00:18:49,350 All right. 349 00:19:57,690 --> 00:19:58,590 Follow me here, 350 00:19:58,590 --> 00:20:00,690 That means that six years earlier 351 00:20:00,690 --> 00:20:04,760 When she was living in westfield she was 16... 352 00:20:05,380 --> 00:20:07,170 By michael's calculation. 353 00:20:07,170 --> 00:20:08,960 That means she's still a minor. 354 00:20:09,380 --> 00:20:10,350 He admitted it. 355 00:20:32,900 --> 00:20:33,870 Um... 356 00:20:51,900 --> 00:20:53,870 To be charged with something like this... 357 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,350 It's embarrassing, it's appalling, 358 00:20:58,340 --> 00:21:00,340 It's disgusting, it's degrading. 359 00:21:01,900 --> 00:21:03,620 Once the charges got filed, 360 00:21:04,790 --> 00:21:07,790 My attorney and i, we pull up to the tippecanoe county jail 361 00:21:07,790 --> 00:21:09,790 The next day to turn myself in. 362 00:21:09,790 --> 00:21:11,170 First denied, the man accused 363 00:21:11,170 --> 00:21:12,790 Of leaving his adopted child 364 00:21:12,790 --> 00:21:15,070 Alone in an apartment in lafayette 365 00:21:15,070 --> 00:21:17,280 Turned himself into authorities today. 366 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,560 The case being built by prosecutors, 367 00:21:19,550 --> 00:21:22,070 Confident enough to file charges of neglect. 368 00:21:23,900 --> 00:21:26,140 I get put into a holding cell by myself. 369 00:21:27,550 --> 00:21:28,520 I was booked. 370 00:21:31,380 --> 00:21:32,620 I was fingerprinted. 371 00:21:37,550 --> 00:21:39,340 And then it's time for my mug shot. 372 00:21:41,790 --> 00:21:43,270 It's gonna sound strange. 373 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,010 - I wasn't nervous. 374 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,340 Not that camera. I'm not thinking about that camera. 375 00:21:49,660 --> 00:21:51,560 I'm thinking about the ones that are waiting for me outside. 376 00:21:51,550 --> 00:21:54,450 Michael barnett bonded out of tippecanoe county jail 377 00:21:54,450 --> 00:21:57,280 About an hour after turning himself in. 378 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:58,800 Kristine, is there anything you want to say? 379 00:21:58,790 --> 00:21:59,890 No comment. 380 00:21:59,900 --> 00:22:02,900 Kristine barnett turns herself into the authorities 381 00:22:02,900 --> 00:22:05,660 A day after michael turned himself in. 382 00:22:06,690 --> 00:22:08,790 Especially for the first time 383 00:22:08,790 --> 00:22:11,410 To hear that jail cell close behind you. 384 00:22:13,660 --> 00:22:14,660 That has to be one of the most 385 00:22:14,660 --> 00:22:16,660 Humiliating experiences 386 00:22:16,660 --> 00:22:18,800 Any individual could go through. 387 00:22:18,790 --> 00:22:20,000 - Prior to this, 388 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,660 The barnetts were on the cover of magazines 389 00:22:22,660 --> 00:22:23,760 And newspapers. 390 00:22:24,660 --> 00:22:27,180 And now, after being arrested and charged, 391 00:22:27,170 --> 00:22:29,070 Being photographed for a whole different reason. 392 00:22:30,170 --> 00:22:32,450 The next day, 393 00:22:32,450 --> 00:22:36,070 I have employees pulling that up on their computer. 394 00:22:37,450 --> 00:22:38,760 "is this you?" 395 00:22:39,790 --> 00:22:41,690 I have employees sending the link 396 00:22:41,690 --> 00:22:44,550 To my hr department. 397 00:22:44,550 --> 00:22:47,960 Saying, "did you guys know this monster works for us?" 398 00:22:49,070 --> 00:22:52,070 Suddenly, i am the bad guy of the universe. 399 00:22:54,170 --> 00:22:57,790 But my ex-Wife, kristine, was the one in power. 400 00:22:57,790 --> 00:22:59,790 I had no control over any of this. 401 00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:05,170 From that point on, it becomes barnett versus barnett. 402 00:23:05,170 --> 00:23:07,070 It is war. 403 00:23:07,070 --> 00:23:10,000 And natalia is no longer michael's target. 404 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,450 It's kristine. 405 00:23:12,690 --> 00:23:14,040 He's not going to take the fall for this by himself. 406 00:23:25,170 --> 00:23:26,450 I'm the dictionary definition 407 00:23:26,450 --> 00:23:28,930 Of a guy that had it all and lost it all. 408 00:23:33,100 --> 00:23:34,450 The car itself is dead. 409 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,730 Hasn't run for about a year. 410 00:23:37,450 --> 00:23:39,240 It's not gonna run anytime soon. 411 00:23:45,170 --> 00:23:47,960 Lately, my life has been all about the trial, 412 00:23:47,970 --> 00:23:50,630 Which is coming up just in a couple of months. 413 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,340 If i felt like i was ever doing wrong... 414 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,420 I would've hid it. 415 00:23:58,450 --> 00:24:00,590 Knowing what i know now, 416 00:24:00,590 --> 00:24:04,660 Knowing... And being able to see how i was manipulated, 417 00:24:04,660 --> 00:24:06,010 And being able to see how my sons 418 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,240 Have been manipulated after divorce, 419 00:24:09,970 --> 00:24:11,010 The question is, 420 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,720 Do i think kristine could have manipulated natalia? 421 00:24:14,380 --> 00:24:15,280 That's an easy question. 422 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:16,180 The answer is yes, 423 00:24:16,170 --> 00:24:18,000 Kristine could have manipulated natalia. 424 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,170 There was so much mental engineering done on me 425 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,970 That built up and i blew up, 426 00:24:24,970 --> 00:24:28,350 And things ended so negatively, so poorly. 427 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,690 She and i are truly unable 428 00:24:31,690 --> 00:24:33,930 To even exchange an email. 429 00:24:35,450 --> 00:24:38,170 Her nickname is "evil" and she's earned every letter. 430 00:24:39,690 --> 00:24:41,170 She has twisted, 431 00:24:41,170 --> 00:24:46,380 Convoluted, lied publicly, privately, repeatedly, 432 00:24:46,380 --> 00:24:48,660 Over and over and over again 433 00:24:48,660 --> 00:24:51,280 So she can maintain power, money, control 434 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,070 Over everything and everyone. 435 00:24:55,550 --> 00:24:56,690 My middle son and my youngest son, 436 00:24:56,690 --> 00:24:58,970 I've not seen them in over eight years, 437 00:24:58,970 --> 00:25:02,250 And they want nothing to do with seeing me. 438 00:25:04,380 --> 00:25:06,660 We all were abused in that household 439 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,550 And kristine was the purveyor of abuse. 440 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,450 You're going to get the truth. 441 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,970 I will pre-Warn you, 442 00:25:16,790 --> 00:25:18,720 You might not like the truth, 443 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,000 But you'll get the truth. 444 00:25:24,900 --> 00:25:27,450 Kristine blamed everything on natalia. 445 00:25:29,380 --> 00:25:32,380 The dynamic between natalia and the rest of the family 446 00:25:32,380 --> 00:25:34,590 Seemed to shift relatively early on. 447 00:25:34,590 --> 00:25:35,900 My mom would get into arguments 448 00:25:35,900 --> 00:25:39,450 And, like, try to figure out who natalia really was. 449 00:25:39,450 --> 00:25:41,550 Their relationship was definitely hostile. 450 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,380 Things would 451 00:25:50,380 --> 00:25:54,350 Spiral quickly and escalate quickly. 452 00:25:54,340 --> 00:25:56,960 Kristine and natalia were an imminent danger. 453 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,450 My children were just one step below it. 454 00:26:04,900 --> 00:26:07,660 I promise you, 455 00:26:08,860 --> 00:26:10,650 Within five years someone's dead. 456 00:26:37,070 --> 00:26:39,480 My mom firmly believed 457 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:40,480 That, like, uh, 458 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,380 Natalia is a hostile agent. 459 00:26:44,380 --> 00:26:47,660 You know, that she definitely is not who she says she is 460 00:26:47,660 --> 00:26:48,870 And intends harm. 461 00:26:49,450 --> 00:26:52,590 Every day, kristine and natalia 462 00:26:52,590 --> 00:26:55,760 Would have the third-Degree spotlight, 463 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,760 Tell me everything about you. 464 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,170 One time i come home from work, 465 00:26:59,550 --> 00:27:00,520 Open the door, 466 00:27:00,860 --> 00:27:01,890 Say hello. 467 00:27:01,900 --> 00:27:04,450 Natalia is standing in the breakfast nook, 468 00:27:04,970 --> 00:27:06,450 Nose against the wall. 469 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,070 What'd she do? 470 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:11,720 This is what i was told. 471 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,180 Natalia this morning is not cooperating with kristine. 472 00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:18,690 Very adversarial, very butting heads 473 00:27:18,690 --> 00:27:20,000 And honestly, god bless her, 474 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,380 Natalia is probably the first person ever 475 00:27:21,380 --> 00:27:22,760 To stand up to kristine. 476 00:27:32,380 --> 00:27:33,730 10:00 a.M. She puts her nose on the wall. 477 00:27:34,970 --> 00:27:36,660 "you will stay there 478 00:27:36,660 --> 00:27:39,970 Until you get to this table and write down 479 00:27:39,970 --> 00:27:41,520 Names of people you have been with. 480 00:27:42,860 --> 00:27:44,860 That girl stands there, nose on the wall 481 00:27:44,860 --> 00:27:46,860 From 10:00 a.M. To noon. 482 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,730 Kristine makes everybody lunch, 483 00:27:50,170 --> 00:27:51,860 Gets natalia's food, 484 00:27:51,860 --> 00:27:53,480 Puts it right next to her. 485 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,170 "you can eat this, when, boys and girls? 486 00:27:56,170 --> 00:27:58,100 When you sit your ass at the table 487 00:27:58,100 --> 00:27:59,480 And you write down the names 488 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:00,760 Of every person you've lived with 489 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,620 And you tell me who you really are. 490 00:28:06,970 --> 00:28:08,180 When i got home, 491 00:28:08,170 --> 00:28:10,960 Kristine says that, 492 00:28:10,970 --> 00:28:15,350 "yeah. She's been standing still, 493 00:28:15,970 --> 00:28:19,970 Nose on the wall for eight hours 494 00:28:19,970 --> 00:28:21,590 And she ain't getting out of there 495 00:28:21,590 --> 00:28:23,070 Until she writes down names. 496 00:28:23,070 --> 00:28:25,970 Michael, don't you say a word to her, 497 00:28:25,970 --> 00:28:27,280 Don't you help her. 498 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,590 I have been dealing with this all day long. 499 00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:32,000 Don't you do anything except back up your wife. 500 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,240 Do you understand me?" 501 00:28:36,690 --> 00:28:37,660 Yeah. 502 00:28:39,550 --> 00:28:40,960 So, 503 00:28:40,970 --> 00:28:42,660 At this point in time, it's been eight hours. 504 00:28:43,170 --> 00:28:44,450 Natalia soiled herself. 505 00:28:46,340 --> 00:28:48,000 Natalia, according to kristine, 506 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,450 Soiled herself hours ago. 507 00:28:51,900 --> 00:28:53,180 And per kristine, 508 00:28:53,170 --> 00:28:57,410 "on purpose just to spite me and make me upset." 509 00:28:58,900 --> 00:29:01,000 So, i sit on the couch in the living room, 510 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,450 Natalia's behind me in the kitchen, 511 00:29:02,450 --> 00:29:04,170 Kristine's on the couch, 512 00:29:04,170 --> 00:29:06,340 And we're going to enjoy our evening. 513 00:29:06,340 --> 00:29:07,580 We're going to watch tv. 514 00:29:07,590 --> 00:29:09,350 We're enjoying our evening! 515 00:29:09,340 --> 00:29:11,960 You can join us. You can watch tv 516 00:29:11,970 --> 00:29:15,350 When you tell us who you are. 517 00:29:16,860 --> 00:29:18,720 Two in the morning comes. 518 00:29:19,380 --> 00:29:22,240 She has now defecated on herself. 519 00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:27,070 She hasn't moved. 520 00:29:29,550 --> 00:29:31,550 Every day i would come home, 521 00:29:31,550 --> 00:29:33,760 And best-Case scenario 522 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,860 Is kristine is sitting on the couch angry 523 00:29:36,860 --> 00:29:38,000 And natalia's in her room. 524 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,930 That is the best-Case scenario for the next two years. 525 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,830 I told the cops this anyway. 526 00:29:51,340 --> 00:29:52,480 I told the police this 527 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,830 When they came to me three years ago 528 00:29:55,450 --> 00:29:57,590 To talk to me about natalia. 529 00:29:57,590 --> 00:30:01,420 So, if i'm open and honest and willing enough to... 530 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,000 Tell police officers this, 531 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,070 I can do this. 532 00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:10,650 There are multiple times, 533 00:30:12,340 --> 00:30:14,170 Three that i bore witness to 534 00:30:14,170 --> 00:30:16,830 And i'm certain far more than that. 535 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,350 That kristine beat the holy hell out of her. 536 00:30:24,340 --> 00:30:26,060 So one day i come home from work. 537 00:30:28,100 --> 00:30:30,000 And this is... 538 00:30:31,690 --> 00:30:33,900 Maybe early 2011. 539 00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:35,420 I can feel the tension in the air. 540 00:30:35,970 --> 00:30:37,450 Walking into the house. 541 00:30:38,340 --> 00:30:39,820 I see... I see my wife. 542 00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:44,000 I'll be... 543 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,590 I'll try to be as accurate as i can. 544 00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:47,250 Get one of the guys point the camera at the floor. 545 00:30:52,970 --> 00:30:55,350 I need right here-Ish... 546 00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,450 To get you to understand. 547 00:31:06,970 --> 00:31:08,180 The beatings 548 00:31:08,970 --> 00:31:12,560 Were similar to this. 549 00:31:30,170 --> 00:31:31,450 Ow. 550 00:32:11,970 --> 00:32:16,110 Detective davenport was using a common interrogation tactic 551 00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:18,650 Where he leads the target of the investigation 552 00:32:18,660 --> 00:32:20,280 To believe that he's on his side 553 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,450 To gain his trust and elicit more information. 554 00:32:24,340 --> 00:32:26,750 Michael really has changed his tune, 555 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,350 And after hearing about how natalia was treated 556 00:32:30,340 --> 00:32:32,000 And the beatings, 557 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,000 If she really was hiding knives under her bed, 558 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,520 It makes me wonder if she was doing it in self-Defense. 559 00:32:39,660 --> 00:32:43,350 As the beatings happen, 560 00:32:43,340 --> 00:32:46,170 I stand there not knowing what the hell to do. 561 00:32:47,170 --> 00:32:48,830 The only thing i can think, 562 00:32:52,590 --> 00:32:53,940 Turn a camera on, 563 00:32:54,590 --> 00:32:57,620 Turn a recorder on and i palm my phone 564 00:32:58,340 --> 00:33:01,100 And hide it and i start recording. 565 00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:03,550 "how could you betray my trust? 566 00:33:04,070 --> 00:33:05,970 How could you do that? 567 00:33:05,970 --> 00:33:07,180 Right in front of me right now, 568 00:33:07,170 --> 00:33:09,070 You erase everything on the phone. 569 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,350 Reset phone, hit okay. 570 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:16,940 Don't you ever do anything like that again." 571 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,550 I never got rid of the phone. 572 00:33:22,380 --> 00:33:25,620 I specifically kept it my entire life 573 00:33:26,380 --> 00:33:29,100 Just in case someone was ever able to do 574 00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:30,860 A data recovery off of it 575 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,520 And pull the video back. 576 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,170 This exchange between michael and kristine 577 00:34:03,170 --> 00:34:05,760 Is really an explosive revelation. 578 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,380 Michael accuses kristine of beating natalia 579 00:34:08,380 --> 00:34:09,900 And she doesn't deny it. 580 00:34:09,900 --> 00:34:12,730 So that's sort of a tacit admission that she did. 581 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,760 When the time came, 582 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,760 Michael offered up kristine 583 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,830 To the police on a silver platter. 584 00:35:39,970 --> 00:35:42,280 From my mom's perspective, when natalia infiltrated 585 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,760 Our family and wanted to harm us. 586 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,480 And so, my mom denied possibly doing anything wrong 587 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,270 And if anything, she was just operating 588 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,830 Under the, uh, advice of therapists. 589 00:35:56,380 --> 00:35:58,000 And i can assure you that 590 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,240 No therapist would advise 591 00:36:02,100 --> 00:36:04,550 Uh, this particular action, 592 00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:06,140 Which i'm not going to go into detail, but i... 593 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,760 Like if a therapist did, they would lose their license. 594 00:36:24,380 --> 00:36:25,620 Breathe it in. 595 00:36:28,340 --> 00:36:30,550 It's truly the best regular moment 596 00:36:30,550 --> 00:36:32,900 We would always have together as a family. 597 00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:34,620 Sitting down having popcorn. 598 00:36:36,550 --> 00:36:39,340 It brings a level of comfort, 599 00:36:39,340 --> 00:36:41,030 Like, there's a level of... 600 00:36:41,900 --> 00:36:43,800 Maybe it's happiness, maybe it's purity, 601 00:36:43,790 --> 00:36:46,690 Maybe it's just remembrance of a good moment 602 00:36:46,690 --> 00:36:48,170 Here and there. 603 00:36:48,170 --> 00:36:50,270 This was... This was part of our lives. 604 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,590 This is... We were movie people. 605 00:36:52,590 --> 00:36:55,870 It was what we did two, three nights a week. 606 00:36:57,690 --> 00:36:59,760 Jake smells the popcorn, jake arrives. 607 00:37:02,690 --> 00:37:05,000 Like, i'm already, like, mmm tasty. 608 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,620 You and me standing here eating popcorn together. 609 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:09,630 You know, i just... 610 00:37:10,450 --> 00:37:11,970 I never thought i'd get this again. 611 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,690 I'd never in a million years 612 00:37:14,690 --> 00:37:17,900 Dreamed that this would ever happen again. 613 00:37:17,900 --> 00:37:21,350 2019, i haven't seen you in five and a half years. 614 00:37:22,340 --> 00:37:25,030 And i sent you a couple messages on facebook 615 00:37:25,030 --> 00:37:26,890 Just to let you know, hey, 616 00:37:26,900 --> 00:37:28,690 If you have any questions about 617 00:37:28,690 --> 00:37:30,410 "dad, why'd you leave?" 618 00:37:31,380 --> 00:37:32,620 Just ask. 619 00:37:33,590 --> 00:37:34,970 Of the three boys, 620 00:37:36,070 --> 00:37:38,170 You're the one that responded. 621 00:37:38,170 --> 00:37:41,620 You invited me to come see you in new orleans. 622 00:37:42,900 --> 00:37:44,180 I had no idea what to expect. 623 00:37:44,170 --> 00:37:45,410 No clue. 624 00:37:46,170 --> 00:37:48,030 And i walk up and 625 00:37:48,030 --> 00:37:51,130 The first thing you say to everybody was, 626 00:37:51,690 --> 00:37:52,970 "this is my dad." 627 00:37:59,340 --> 00:38:01,060 I hadn't heard you say the word "dad" 628 00:38:01,070 --> 00:38:03,310 In almost six years. 629 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,660 It gave me hope. 630 00:38:08,690 --> 00:38:09,860 I... 631 00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:11,790 I didn't have hope 632 00:38:11,790 --> 00:38:13,760 For a very, very, very long time. 633 00:38:15,790 --> 00:38:19,310 I was 100% convinced i'd never see you again. 634 00:38:20,380 --> 00:38:22,760 I'm still convinced i'll never see your brothers again. 635 00:38:25,550 --> 00:38:26,760 Sorry. 636 00:38:35,070 --> 00:38:39,140 It's clear that someone wronged someone else. 637 00:38:43,550 --> 00:38:46,070 It's easy to go around and categorizing people 638 00:38:46,070 --> 00:38:49,620 Into, uh, clusters of good people and bad people. 639 00:38:52,450 --> 00:38:56,040 But good people do bad things, bad people do good things. 640 00:38:57,900 --> 00:39:02,450 I just don't want blame to be falsely assigned. 641 00:39:05,790 --> 00:39:06,580 My mom and i are, kind of, 642 00:39:06,590 --> 00:39:07,940 Going through it at the moment. 643 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,860 Recently i had a bunch of questions relating to childhood 644 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,760 And just concerns. 645 00:39:15,170 --> 00:39:17,200 Uh, so i called her. 646 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,590 Like, i was just expecting her to maybe acknowledge 647 00:39:22,590 --> 00:39:23,970 Some of the things i was saying. 648 00:39:24,590 --> 00:39:25,800 Like, i wasn't necessarily 649 00:39:25,790 --> 00:39:27,240 Looking for an apology or anything, 650 00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:29,030 But i didn't even get that. 651 00:39:37,070 --> 00:39:39,280 I did ask her about some stuff 652 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,040 Relating to natalia 653 00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:42,790 That i don't think i'm comfortable 654 00:39:42,790 --> 00:39:43,860 Sharing with here. 655 00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:45,790 Partially i'm protecting my mom 656 00:39:45,790 --> 00:39:47,690 By not being explicit here. 657 00:39:47,690 --> 00:39:51,380 I mean my mom is definitely not 100% innocent, 658 00:39:51,380 --> 00:39:54,550 So i'm kind of stuck between, like, a rock and a hard place 659 00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:56,960 Where like i, uh, don't want to hurt anyone. 660 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:02,690 And, uh, 661 00:40:02,690 --> 00:40:05,860 I recognize that that might not be possible. 662 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,760 Yeah, i need to sleep on some things. 663 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,210 Yeah, i don't know if i wish to talk about this further. 664 00:40:34,450 --> 00:40:35,550 I'm done. 665 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,000 Because there are so many questions 666 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,280 Could possibly, the barnetts just be making this up 667 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,450 To cover their tails and to cover their tracks. 668 00:40:48,450 --> 00:40:51,690 There's something really deeply wrong here. 669 00:40:51,690 --> 00:40:54,350 It doesn't smell right. There's something wrong. 670 00:40:54,340 --> 00:40:55,340 Oh, it smells like 671 00:40:56,590 --> 00:40:58,760 Somebody's hiding something someplace. 45688

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