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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:04,101 --> 00:00:06,368 ( announcer reading ) 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:16,401 --> 00:00:18,401 ...SUBJECT MATTERS. 5 00:00:18,468 --> 00:00:20,734 AND NOW THE CINEMAX REELLIFE DOCUMENTARY. 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,867 Spencer Tunick: OKAY, PUT YOUR LEGS TOGETHER. 7 00:00:25,934 --> 00:00:28,201 - THERE YOU GO. - ( laughter, clapping) 8 00:00:48,234 --> 00:00:50,368 Gwenn: YOU ALMOST READY? 9 00:00:50,434 --> 00:00:52,667 - DO YOU HAVE ANY HAIR STUFF? - NO. 10 00:00:52,734 --> 00:00:54,800 WHAT KIND OF A GIRL ARE YOU? 11 00:00:54,867 --> 00:00:57,401 WE HAVE THE OPPOSITE RELATIONSHIP OF MOST PEOPLE. 12 00:00:57,468 --> 00:01:01,101 - I'M READY. YOU'RE DOING YOUR HAIR. - ( laughs ) 13 00:01:05,834 --> 00:01:08,934 HERE I AM IN A HOTEL ROOM WITH A MAN THAT I'VE KNOWN A MONTH AND A HALF. 14 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,067 - STRANGE MAN. - IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER SLEPT WITH HIM. 15 00:01:12,134 --> 00:01:14,434 YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY FOR ME. I'M A GOOD BOY. 16 00:01:14,500 --> 00:01:16,533 PERFECT GENTLEMAN. ( laughs ) 17 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,533 I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO GIVE US TWO DOUBLE BEDS. 18 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,734 LET ME GET MY GLOVES. ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO. LET'S DO IT. 19 00:01:28,967 --> 00:01:31,267 I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M DOING THIS. 20 00:01:32,667 --> 00:01:35,301 - IT'S BECAUSE YOU LOVE ME. - YEAH. 21 00:01:35,368 --> 00:01:37,067 GLOVES. 22 00:01:38,067 --> 00:01:40,368 VINNY GETS ABOUT 60 PILLS A DAY, 23 00:01:40,434 --> 00:01:43,101 I ONLY HAVE ONE HANDFUL A DAY. 24 00:01:45,500 --> 00:01:48,967 VINNY'S NERVOUS ABOUT SHOWING HIS BELLY TO THE CAMERA. 25 00:01:53,734 --> 00:01:55,667 FOUR CAMERAS AND TWO TRIPODS. 26 00:01:59,167 --> 00:02:01,867 - HOW DO YOU FEEL? - UH... I'M READY. 27 00:02:01,934 --> 00:02:03,500 I'M HOPING TO SEE A FEW GUTS-- 28 00:02:03,567 --> 00:02:07,434 THAT WILL MAKE ME FEEL A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE. 29 00:02:07,500 --> 00:02:09,600 WITH ALL OF THIS GOING ON, I FORGOT TO BE NERVOUS 30 00:02:09,667 --> 00:02:14,267 THAT I'M GOING TO GET NAKED ON CAMERA. ( chuckles ) 31 00:02:14,334 --> 00:02:16,934 I WAS ACTUALLY HESITANT TO TELL MY FRIENDS 32 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,401 BECAUSE I THOUGHT THEY WOULD THINK I'M A SUCKER. 33 00:02:20,468 --> 00:02:22,667 Julia: THIS IS KIND OF AN OUT-OF-THE-WAY PLACE. 34 00:02:22,734 --> 00:02:25,067 WHAT DO YOU THINK? LOOKS KIND OF CREEPY. 35 00:02:25,134 --> 00:02:28,934 I WANTED TO BE AT PEAK PHYSICAL CONDITION FOR THIS. 36 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,767 I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO. PUT US ALL IN A ROOM 37 00:02:31,834 --> 00:02:34,667 AND TELL US TO STRIP, I GUESS. LET'S DO IT. 38 00:02:34,734 --> 00:02:36,234 COME ON. 39 00:02:49,967 --> 00:02:52,434 WOW, THIS IS COOL. OH MY GOD. 40 00:02:52,500 --> 00:02:54,600 LOOK AT ALL THESE PEOPLE. 41 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,101 ( laughs ) OH MY GOD. 42 00:03:01,301 --> 00:03:04,201 Elizabeth: I THOUGHT I COULD DO IT RIGHT AWAY, 43 00:03:04,267 --> 00:03:07,434 BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS ONLY GOING TO BE WOMEN. 44 00:03:07,500 --> 00:03:10,234 BUT THEN WHEN I GOT THERE, 45 00:03:10,301 --> 00:03:13,600 THAT'S WHEN I FIND OUT THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE MALES AND FEMALES. 46 00:03:13,667 --> 00:03:17,301 AS WE ALL KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE NUDE DURING THIS INSTALLATION. 47 00:03:17,368 --> 00:03:19,134 - ( laughter ) - OOPS. 48 00:03:19,201 --> 00:03:22,633 Mark: VINNY REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT. 49 00:03:22,700 --> 00:03:26,368 Vinny: I WAS AN UNDERWEAR MODEL, BUT TO WEAR NOTHING? 50 00:03:26,434 --> 00:03:28,734 - SPENCER. HI, NICHOLAS. - MY NAME'S NICHOLAS. 51 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,900 Ron: I WAS A LITTLE NERVOUS, A LITTLE APPREHENSIVE. 52 00:03:31,967 --> 00:03:35,101 WHEN SPENCER CAME IN-- I DON'T KNOW-- SOMETHING ABOUT HIS VOICE. 53 00:03:35,167 --> 00:03:37,434 I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING. 54 00:03:37,500 --> 00:03:39,267 Ron: HE WAS VERY NICE WITH THE CROWD, 55 00:03:39,334 --> 00:03:41,834 AND HE KIND OF EXPLAINED HOW HE WAS GOING TO DO THINGS 56 00:03:41,900 --> 00:03:43,667 AND I BECAME COMFORTABLE. 57 00:03:43,734 --> 00:03:46,767 THIS IS A COLLABORATION BETWEEN YOU AND I. 58 00:03:46,834 --> 00:03:49,667 WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A PIECE OF ART TOGETHER. 59 00:03:49,734 --> 00:03:51,301 AT TIMES IT WILL BE AWKWARD 60 00:03:51,368 --> 00:03:53,934 AND THEN AT TIMES IT WILL BE THE EXACT OPPOSITE. 61 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,000 YOU'LL FEEL LIKE YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE NUDE BEFORE. 62 00:03:58,700 --> 00:04:02,267 BUT YOUR BREAKFAST WILL NEVER TASTE THE SAME. 63 00:04:02,334 --> 00:04:04,834 IN MY LIFE I'VE DEALT WITH A LOT OF SCARY SITUATIONS, 64 00:04:04,900 --> 00:04:06,934 SO WHY SHOULD I BE AFRAID 65 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,067 TO DISROBE AND DISPLAY MY LITTLE FELLOW 66 00:04:09,134 --> 00:04:11,301 IN FRONT OF A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE? 67 00:04:11,368 --> 00:04:15,000 THIS IS AN HONOR TO BE HERE WORKING WITH YOU. 68 00:04:15,067 --> 00:04:18,500 FOR ME THIS IS A SIGN OF COMMUNITY. 69 00:04:18,567 --> 00:04:20,734 Julia: I PARTICIPATED IN THIS INSTALLATION 70 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,934 DESPITE THE FEARS I HAD-- PHYSICALLY BEING NAKED IN FRONT OF PEOPLE? 71 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,301 - YEAH, WE COULD POSE TOGETHER. - I LOVE THAT. 72 00:04:26,368 --> 00:04:29,301 - NO. SERIOUSLY. - I'M GOING TO BE SURROUNDED BY ALL THESE MEN. 73 00:04:29,368 --> 00:04:32,034 THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT IN SUCH AN INCREDIBLE WAY, 74 00:04:32,101 --> 00:04:34,401 IN A CELEBRATORY WAY, WITH A COMMUNITY 75 00:04:34,468 --> 00:04:37,667 THAT SHARED SOMETHING SO CRITICAL ABOUT MY LIFE 76 00:04:37,734 --> 00:04:40,334 THAT THEY SHARED, WHICH WAS HIV. 77 00:05:07,034 --> 00:05:10,000 HAVE YOU EVER STOOD UP ON THE COUNTER NAKED BEFORE, SEAN? 78 00:05:17,900 --> 00:05:20,567 I HAD COME INTO THE OFFICE AND WAS TALKING TO WALTER 79 00:05:20,633 --> 00:05:24,167 ABOUT THE COVER PROSPECTS FOR THE 10th ANNIVERSARY ISSUE, 80 00:05:24,234 --> 00:05:27,301 AND NONE OF THEM EXCITED HIM OR EXCITED ME. 81 00:05:27,368 --> 00:05:29,800 WE KIND OF WANTED SOMETHING SPECIAL. 82 00:05:29,867 --> 00:05:31,834 I HAD SEEN SPENCER'S WORK 83 00:05:31,900 --> 00:05:34,334 AND I THOUGHT, "OH GOD, THAT WOULD BE PERFECT." 84 00:05:34,401 --> 00:05:38,368 Spencer: THEY WANTED A WORK THAT EVERYONE WAS ALIVE, 85 00:05:38,434 --> 00:05:42,567 INTERACTING WITH THE CAMERA AND DEFIANT. 86 00:05:42,633 --> 00:05:45,567 AND I WANTED THAT TOO, BUT I ALSO WANTED 87 00:05:45,633 --> 00:05:48,667 TO CREATE A RELATIONSHIP 88 00:05:48,734 --> 00:05:50,667 BETWEEN LIFE AND DEATH. 89 00:05:50,734 --> 00:05:53,334 I COULD BE UP HERE. 90 00:05:53,401 --> 00:05:55,867 Sean: I THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE POWERFUL 91 00:05:55,934 --> 00:05:57,967 FOR THE PEOPLE WHO PARTICIPATE. 92 00:05:58,034 --> 00:05:59,834 I KNEW IT WOULD BE A POWERFUL IMAGE. 93 00:05:59,900 --> 00:06:02,334 I WAS THINKING AS A MAGAZINE GUY. 94 00:06:02,401 --> 00:06:04,067 WE WANTED A GOOD IMAGE ON THE COVER. 95 00:06:04,134 --> 00:06:05,334 THEY CALLED US WITH ABOUT 96 00:06:05,401 --> 00:06:07,667 A THREE-WEEK DEADLINE THEY WERE WORKING WITHIN. 97 00:06:07,734 --> 00:06:11,101 AND MOST OF THE TIME TO PULL TOGETHER SPENCER'S INSTALLATIONS 98 00:06:11,167 --> 00:06:13,800 TAKES THREE, FOUR MONTHS AT THE VERY MINIMUM. 99 00:06:13,867 --> 00:06:16,034 I WAS LIKE, "WE'VE GOT TO DO THIS. 100 00:06:16,101 --> 00:06:18,067 I'M GOING TO DO IT AT NO CHARGE. 101 00:06:18,134 --> 00:06:20,567 I'M GOING TO DONATE MY SERVICES." 102 00:06:20,633 --> 00:06:23,000 IN TWO-WEEKS TIME WE GET NEARLY 100 PEOPLE 103 00:06:23,067 --> 00:06:26,267 WILLING TO SAY NOT JUST THAT THEY'RE HIV, BUT HERE THEY ARE. 104 00:06:26,334 --> 00:06:29,800 - YEAH, WE CAME DOWN FROM BOSTON. - WE LIVE IN BOSTON. 105 00:06:29,867 --> 00:06:31,500 THIS IS THE FILM I'M USING TODAY. 106 00:06:31,567 --> 00:06:33,800 Ron: FOR ME, PARTICIPATING IN THE INSTALLATION 107 00:06:33,867 --> 00:06:37,267 WAS THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER MADE A PUBLIC STATEMENT 108 00:06:37,334 --> 00:06:39,434 THAT I'M HIV POSITIVE, 109 00:06:39,500 --> 00:06:41,600 THAT I'M A PERSON WHO HAS SURVIVED 110 00:06:41,667 --> 00:06:44,201 WITH THE HIV VIRUS FOR 17 YEARS. 111 00:06:44,267 --> 00:06:48,201 WE ALL AREN'T DEAD OR DYING. A LOT OF US ARE SURVIVORS. 112 00:06:48,267 --> 00:06:51,600 Shawn: I'M IN A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE WHO ARE HIV POSITIVE. 113 00:06:51,667 --> 00:06:54,368 I'M WITH MY PEERS, YOU KNOW? 114 00:06:54,434 --> 00:06:57,633 THERE'S NO NEED TO BE SCARED. I BELONG HERE. 115 00:06:57,700 --> 00:07:00,533 PEOPLE WHO HAVE DEALT WITH THE SAME SITUATION 116 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,667 WITH HIV THAT I HAVE, 117 00:07:02,734 --> 00:07:04,800 GOING THROUGH THE FEAR OF "WHO CAN I TELL? 118 00:07:04,867 --> 00:07:07,500 WHICH FRIENDS CAN I TELL? I DON'T WANT TO BURDEN PEOPLE. 119 00:07:07,567 --> 00:07:09,368 I DON'T WANT TO GO TO MY DOCTOR. 120 00:07:09,434 --> 00:07:11,167 I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE APPOINTMENT. 121 00:07:11,234 --> 00:07:14,334 I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THE DRUGS. I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS AND THAT." 122 00:07:14,401 --> 00:07:17,401 JUST KNOWING, WITHOUT EVEN TALKING TO EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM, 123 00:07:17,468 --> 00:07:21,167 JUST LOOKING AT SOMEBODY AND KNOWING, "YEAH, THEY KNOW WHAT I'VE BEEN THROUGH 124 00:07:21,234 --> 00:07:23,067 BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH IT TOO." 125 00:07:23,134 --> 00:07:25,834 LOOSENING UP. YEAH, I'M LOOSE. 126 00:07:25,900 --> 00:07:28,767 - I'M GETTING BEHIND YOU. - Spencer: WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING BACK HERE 127 00:07:28,834 --> 00:07:31,633 OR FROM HERE, FROM THIS ANGLE. 128 00:07:31,700 --> 00:07:34,600 THE IDEA WAS SUDDENLY GROWING AND IT LOOKED LIKE IT MIGHT HAPPEN. 129 00:07:34,667 --> 00:07:37,000 SO THIS LITTLE VOICE IN THE BACK OF MY HEAD SAID, 130 00:07:37,067 --> 00:07:39,800 "ARE YOU CRAZY? YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THIS. ARE YOU CRAZY?" 131 00:07:39,867 --> 00:07:43,201 Spence: I FEEL THAT SPENCER'S WORK IS SO IMPORTANT 132 00:07:43,267 --> 00:07:46,401 AS A SOCIAL COMMENT, ESPECIALLY THIS. 133 00:07:46,468 --> 00:07:48,900 EVERY PERSON IN THAT ROOM THAT WAS PARTICIPATING 134 00:07:48,967 --> 00:07:52,234 WAS THERE FOR A SPIRITUAL AND EMOTIONAL REASON. 135 00:07:53,767 --> 00:07:56,234 THAT'S HIS GRANDMOTHER. 136 00:07:56,301 --> 00:07:59,067 SHE RAISED VINNY AND SHE... 137 00:08:00,567 --> 00:08:02,867 THERE AREN'T A LOT OF TIMES THAT COMES OFF, 138 00:08:02,934 --> 00:08:05,468 BUT I GUESS FOR TODAY IT'S COMING OFF. 139 00:08:05,533 --> 00:08:08,034 Shawn: A FUNNY THING HAPPENED AT THE SHOOT. 140 00:08:08,101 --> 00:08:11,267 THERE WAS A GUY THERE WHO WAS HIV NEGATIVE, 141 00:08:11,334 --> 00:08:14,267 AND HE ASKED SPENCER, "WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE HIV NEGATIVE 142 00:08:14,334 --> 00:08:16,867 WHO ARE HERE IN SUPPORT OF PEOPLE WITH HIV?" 143 00:08:16,934 --> 00:08:19,067 WHO IS HIV NEGATIVE? 144 00:08:19,134 --> 00:08:22,301 Shawn: SPENCER WAS LIKE, "I JUST WANT TO GET PEOPLE 145 00:08:22,368 --> 00:08:24,533 WHO ARE POSITIVE RIGHT NOW." 146 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,101 OKAY, "NEGGIES," 147 00:08:27,167 --> 00:08:29,533 FINALLY YOU'RE THE ONES GETTING KICKED OUT. 148 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,934 ( laughter, applause ) 149 00:08:34,834 --> 00:08:37,434 Gwenn: I DON'T REALLY HAVE FEARS SO MUCH ANYMORE. 150 00:08:37,500 --> 00:08:39,667 I THINK IN THE BEGINNING OF THE RELATIONSHIP 151 00:08:39,734 --> 00:08:41,567 I DEFINITELY HAD CONCERNS. 152 00:08:41,633 --> 00:08:45,000 I KNEW BETTER. I KNEW I WASN'T GOING TO CONTRACT HIV. 153 00:08:45,067 --> 00:08:47,067 I KNEW HOW TO USE A CONDOM EFFECTIVELY. 154 00:08:47,134 --> 00:08:50,368 I KNEW WE REALLY DID EVERYTHING IN THE RELATIONSHIP TO KEEP ME SAFE. 155 00:08:50,434 --> 00:08:53,301 I KNEW ABOUT ALL THE STUDIES ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS LIKE OURS 156 00:08:53,368 --> 00:08:55,533 WHERE THE NEGATIVE PARTNER STAYED NEGATIVE. 157 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,301 WE'VE BEEN IN THIS RELATIONSHIP FOR FIVE AND A HALF YEARS, 158 00:08:58,368 --> 00:09:00,567 AND I FEEL LIKE "I'M STILL NEGATIVE, 159 00:09:00,633 --> 00:09:02,800 OBVIOUSLY WHAT WE ARE DOING IS KEEPING ME SAFE," 160 00:09:02,867 --> 00:09:04,800 SO I DON'T HAVE THOSE FEARS SO MUCH ANYMORE. 161 00:09:04,867 --> 00:09:06,867 ALL YOUR BAGS, ALL YOUR BACKPACKS, 162 00:09:06,934 --> 00:09:09,267 EVERY SINGLE THING YOU BROUGHT WITH YOU, 163 00:09:09,334 --> 00:09:12,434 PLEASE GIVE TO THE PEOPLE BEHIND THE COUNTERS. 164 00:09:12,500 --> 00:09:15,600 - Woman: WE NEED FOUR BAGS RIGHT HERE. - OKAY, SURE. 165 00:09:15,667 --> 00:09:18,867 Elizabeth: WHEN I WAS SITTING THERE I WAS VERY NERVOUS. 166 00:09:18,934 --> 00:09:21,134 THE FELLOW THAT WAS SITTING NEXT TO ME, 167 00:09:21,201 --> 00:09:23,834 HE KEPT HOLDING MY HANDS SAYING, "YOU'RE GOING TO BE OKAY. 168 00:09:23,900 --> 00:09:26,934 DON'T BE AFRAID. DON'T GET NERVOUS. YOU'RE GOING TO BE OKAY." 169 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,234 HE ENCOURAGED ME SO MUCH 170 00:09:29,301 --> 00:09:32,201 THAT WHEN THEY SAID THREE-- "ONE TWO THREE," 171 00:09:32,267 --> 00:09:34,301 AND IT WAS TIME TO TAKE YOUR CLOTHES OFF, 172 00:09:34,368 --> 00:09:37,234 I JUST TOOK EVERYTHING AT ONCE, AND I WAS LIKE, 173 00:09:37,301 --> 00:09:39,800 "OKAY, THIS IS IT." 174 00:09:39,867 --> 00:09:42,567 YOU MAY DISROBE NOW. THANK YOU. 175 00:09:42,633 --> 00:09:44,900 ( chatter, giggles ) 176 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,434 ( laughing ) OH MY GOD. 177 00:09:58,767 --> 00:10:00,867 ( laughing ) 178 00:10:06,267 --> 00:10:08,301 Julia: COME ON, YOU'VE GOT TO GET UNDRESSED. 179 00:10:08,368 --> 00:10:11,101 - GOT TO GO. - YOU AND ME, JUST YOU AND ME. 180 00:10:14,700 --> 00:10:17,700 Julia: THIS IS NOT REAL. THIS IS NOT HAPPENING. 181 00:10:28,834 --> 00:10:31,867 Shawn: ONCE EVERYBODY TOOK OFF THEIR CLOTHES, 182 00:10:31,934 --> 00:10:34,734 THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM WERE NAKED. 183 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,834 IT SORT OF BECAME, "OH, THIS IS NORMAL." 184 00:10:39,867 --> 00:10:42,401 OF COURSE, AT FIRST YOU'RE CHECKING PEOPLE OUT. 185 00:10:42,468 --> 00:10:44,434 "THANK GOD THERE'S SOMEBODY HERE 186 00:10:44,500 --> 00:10:47,267 WHOSE A LITTLE CHUBBIER AROUND THE SIDES THAN ME." 187 00:10:47,334 --> 00:10:50,867 IT WAS SO SAD THAT-- THE PENIS THING. 188 00:10:50,934 --> 00:10:53,500 OKAY, I'M A GAY MAN. 189 00:10:53,567 --> 00:10:56,234 I KNOW I'M FIXATED WITH THE SIZE... 190 00:10:56,301 --> 00:10:57,468 OF THE PENIS. 191 00:10:57,533 --> 00:10:59,500 BUT PARTICULARLY-- 192 00:10:59,567 --> 00:11:02,368 I DIDN'T WANT MINE TO LOOK PARTICULARLY LITTLE, 193 00:11:02,434 --> 00:11:04,101 AND IT WAS KIND OF COLD IN THERE. 194 00:11:04,167 --> 00:11:06,934 SO I WANTED TO HAVE LIKE 195 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,000 THE RESPECTABLE, NORMAL, 196 00:11:09,067 --> 00:11:13,468 MIDDLE-SIZED, DON'T-PAY-ATTENTION-- ( laughs ) 197 00:11:13,533 --> 00:11:15,600 Spencer: DARK HAIR, RIGHT HERE... 198 00:11:15,667 --> 00:11:18,067 STAND UP. YES, YOU CAN STAND UP. 199 00:11:18,134 --> 00:11:19,500 - ALL THE WAY UP? - YEP. 200 00:11:19,567 --> 00:11:22,234 ( clunks, laughter ) 201 00:11:22,301 --> 00:11:24,734 Elizabeth: AT THE BEGINNING I WAS NERVOUS. 202 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,468 A FEW MINUTES LATER, I WAS LIKE-- 203 00:11:26,533 --> 00:11:29,734 EVERYBODY WAS WALKING AROUND NAKED AND NOBODY WAS LOOKING AT ANYBODY. 204 00:11:31,167 --> 00:11:32,834 Spence: I WAS JUST WALKING AROUND. 205 00:11:32,900 --> 00:11:34,934 I JOKED WITH ONE OF MY FRIENDS THAT WAS THERE. 206 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,767 I SAID, "I'M GOING TO RUN TO THE DELI. DO YOU WANT ANYTHING?" 207 00:11:37,834 --> 00:11:41,201 HE'S GOING, "WELL..." THEN I STARTED FOR THE DOOR WITHOUT ANY CLOTHES. 208 00:11:41,267 --> 00:11:44,500 HE'S GOING, "WAIT A MINUTE. YOU CAN'T GO OUT. YOU HAVE NO CLOTHES ON." 209 00:11:44,567 --> 00:11:45,967 ONE, 210 00:11:46,034 --> 00:11:47,468 TWO, 211 00:11:47,533 --> 00:11:49,067 THREE. 212 00:11:58,434 --> 00:12:00,667 OKAY, WERE GOING TO TRY FOR THIS. WE'RE GONNA-- 213 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,401 EVERYONE LOOK AT ME. 214 00:12:04,468 --> 00:12:06,468 ONE... CLOSE YOUR EYES. 215 00:12:07,500 --> 00:12:10,034 TWO... OPEN YOUR EYES. 216 00:12:10,101 --> 00:12:12,700 THREE... KEEP THEM OPEN. 217 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,533 Elizabeth: I HAD ENDED THIS RELATIONSHIP 218 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,867 THAT I HAD FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS 219 00:12:39,934 --> 00:12:42,167 WITH THIS MAN, 220 00:12:42,234 --> 00:12:45,934 AND I HEARD THAT HE WAS SICK, 221 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,234 BUT I HAD NO CONTACT WITH HIM-- 222 00:12:49,301 --> 00:12:53,267 HE HAD LEFT THE COUNTY. HE HAD GONE BACK TO HIS FAMILY. 223 00:12:53,334 --> 00:12:55,401 WHEN HE TESTED POSITIVE, 224 00:12:55,468 --> 00:12:57,767 HE HAD PROMISED THE DOCTOR THAT HE WAS 225 00:12:57,834 --> 00:13:00,434 GOING TO COME TO TELL ME, AND HE NEVER DID. 226 00:13:00,500 --> 00:13:02,700 IN THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY, 227 00:13:02,767 --> 00:13:06,468 IT'S A CULTURE THING. 228 00:13:06,533 --> 00:13:10,301 IT'S VERY COMMON THAT A MAN WILL HAVE SEX WITH ANOTHER MAN 229 00:13:10,368 --> 00:13:13,734 AND NOT CONSIDER HIMSELF A HOMOSEXUAL. 230 00:13:15,468 --> 00:13:18,734 THEY DON'T CONSIDER THEMSELVES BISEXUAL EITHER. 231 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,700 I THINK THAT WAS THE REASON WHY HE KEPT THE SECRET. 232 00:13:21,767 --> 00:13:25,401 AND HE WAS ASHAMED TO COME AND TELL ME THAT 233 00:13:25,468 --> 00:13:28,000 THE WAY HE HAD ACQUIRED THE VIRUS 234 00:13:28,067 --> 00:13:31,567 WAS THROUGH SEX WITH ANOTHER MAN. 235 00:13:31,633 --> 00:13:34,734 AT THE SAME TIME, HE GOT ME INFECTED. 236 00:13:39,034 --> 00:13:42,368 Spence: EVERY TIME SPENCER ASKED US TO CLOSE OUR EYES, 237 00:13:42,434 --> 00:13:45,401 EACH TIME I THOUGHT ABOUT ONE OF MY FRIENDS. 238 00:13:45,468 --> 00:13:48,201 I'VE PROBABLY HAD 40 OR 50 FRIENDS DIE 239 00:13:48,267 --> 00:13:50,167 SINCE 1981. 240 00:13:51,767 --> 00:13:54,867 AND I SAID TO MYSELF A SMALL PRAYER INSIDE, "THIS IS FOR YOU. 241 00:13:54,934 --> 00:13:58,468 THIS IS IN HONOR AND MEMORY OF YOU." 242 00:14:03,334 --> 00:14:07,267 Elizabeth: I DECIDED TO TELL MY SON THAT I WAS HIV POSITIVE. 243 00:14:07,334 --> 00:14:09,834 HE WAS 12 YEARS OLD. 244 00:14:09,900 --> 00:14:13,800 I WENT INTO HIS ROOM, SAT ON THE FLOOR WITH HIM, 245 00:14:13,867 --> 00:14:17,767 AND I STARTED TALKING ABOUT ALL THE THINGS THAT WE HAD DONE TOGETHER, 246 00:14:17,834 --> 00:14:20,434 HOW CLOSE WE WERE TO EACH OTHER, 247 00:14:20,500 --> 00:14:24,500 HOW MUCH HE MEANT TO ME AND THAT I HAD A SECRET. 248 00:14:24,567 --> 00:14:28,700 I ASKED HIM IF HE KNEW WHAT HIV WAS, 249 00:14:28,767 --> 00:14:32,934 SO HE SAID, "YES, I KNOW. THEY TOLD US AT SCHOOL." 250 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,368 I SAID, "WELL, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT MOMMY HAS HIV." 251 00:14:37,434 --> 00:14:40,468 AND I TOLD HIM HOW I GOT THE VIRUS, 252 00:14:40,533 --> 00:14:42,401 WHAT HAD HAPPENED 253 00:14:42,468 --> 00:14:46,301 AND THAT I WAS TELLING HIM BECAUSE I FELT 254 00:14:46,368 --> 00:14:49,167 THAT HE WAS OLD ENOUGH, 255 00:14:49,234 --> 00:14:51,633 THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE ANY SECRETS 256 00:14:51,700 --> 00:14:55,500 AND THAT WE HAD TO SPEND MORE QUALITY TIME TOGETHER. 257 00:14:55,567 --> 00:14:58,301 HE DIDN'T CRY A LOT, 258 00:14:58,368 --> 00:15:01,101 BUT I REMEMBER TEARS COMING DOWN HIS FACE. 259 00:15:02,900 --> 00:15:07,533 AND I'VE GOT NO ANSWER FOR HIM. HE WAS JUST LISTENING TO ME. 260 00:15:09,067 --> 00:15:11,934 IT WAS THE WORST DAY OF MY LIFE. 261 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,267 I CRIED ALL NIGHT. 262 00:15:14,334 --> 00:15:17,000 Spencer: THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS IS REALLY NICE. 263 00:15:17,067 --> 00:15:18,500 Man: GORGEOUS. 264 00:15:18,567 --> 00:15:20,533 Spencer: LOOK AT EACH OTHER NOT AT ME. 265 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,301 LOOK AT EACH OTHER. 266 00:15:23,368 --> 00:15:27,000 Sean: PARTICIPATING IN THE INSTALLATION AND GETTING NAKED, 267 00:15:27,067 --> 00:15:30,101 I DON'T THINK I COULD HAVE DONE IT 268 00:15:30,167 --> 00:15:33,067 UNLESS IT WAS A GROUP OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO WERE HIV POSITIVE. 269 00:15:33,134 --> 00:15:37,334 THAT GAVE ME A STRENGTH AND A SENSE OF COMMUNITY. 270 00:15:38,734 --> 00:15:40,834 ( camera clicks ) 271 00:15:40,900 --> 00:15:43,034 Elizabeth: I HAVE SO MANY CHANGES IN MY BODY 272 00:15:43,101 --> 00:15:45,334 DUE TO THE DISEASE 273 00:15:45,401 --> 00:15:49,633 THAT I WAS KIND OF ASHAMED OF SHOWING MY BODY, 274 00:15:49,700 --> 00:15:52,267 BUT THEN I FELT COMFORTABLE. 275 00:15:52,334 --> 00:15:55,700 VINNY, WHICH WAS TOUGHER, THE BELLY OR SHOWING THE PENIS? 276 00:15:55,767 --> 00:15:57,234 OH NO, THE BELLY. 277 00:15:57,301 --> 00:15:59,267 IT'S REALLY TOUGH FOR VINNY, 278 00:15:59,334 --> 00:16:01,301 BECAUSE HE HAS TROUBLE MOVING AROUND. 279 00:16:01,368 --> 00:16:03,800 HE FEELS VERY SELF-CONSCIOUS. 280 00:16:03,867 --> 00:16:07,767 HE FEELS THAT MAYBE IF HE COULD DO A LITTLE MORE YOGA 281 00:16:07,834 --> 00:16:10,401 THE BELLY WOULD GO AWAY-- AND IT WOULDN'T GO AWAY. 282 00:16:10,468 --> 00:16:14,301 HE'S NOT FAT. IT'S NOT ANYTHING HE CAN GET RID OF. 283 00:16:14,368 --> 00:16:16,834 IT'S AIDS-RELATED LIPODYSTROPHY. 284 00:16:16,900 --> 00:16:20,267 IT'S A REDISTRIBUTION OF LIPIDS FAT 285 00:16:20,334 --> 00:16:23,234 AROUND YOUR ORGANS OR AROUND BODY PARTS, 286 00:16:23,301 --> 00:16:27,067 SUCH AS "THE BUFFALO HUMP," THE HUMP THAT'S ON THE BACK OF YOUR NECK. 287 00:16:27,134 --> 00:16:29,800 I HAVE A HUMP ON MY BACK BETWEEN MY SHOULDERS. 288 00:16:29,867 --> 00:16:33,533 I HAVE A BIG NECK, BIG BELLY, 289 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,167 VERY VERY SKINNY LEGS. 290 00:16:36,234 --> 00:16:39,734 EVERYTHING IS DUE TO THE DIFFERENT PROTEASE INHIBITORS 291 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,667 THAT I HAVE BEEN ON. 292 00:16:41,734 --> 00:16:45,867 THE FAT IN MY BODY HAS GONE TO THE WRONG PLACES. 293 00:16:45,934 --> 00:16:49,401 EVEN THE MOST GORGEOUS BUFF GYM-BODY THERE 294 00:16:49,468 --> 00:16:52,567 THAT HAD HIV SPENDS A LOT OF TIME 295 00:16:52,633 --> 00:16:55,401 THINKING ABOUT THAT DISTENDED BELLY 296 00:16:55,468 --> 00:16:57,633 AND THINKING ABOUT THOSE DISTORTIONS 297 00:16:57,700 --> 00:17:00,468 IN ANOTHER PERSON, 298 00:17:00,533 --> 00:17:03,234 AND HAS A LOT OF EMPATHY FOR THAT 299 00:17:03,301 --> 00:17:05,967 BECAUSE THEY SEE THAT IN THEIR OWN FUTURE. 300 00:17:06,034 --> 00:17:07,900 AND YET HERE 301 00:17:07,967 --> 00:17:11,267 WE ALL KNEW THAT WE SHARED CERTAIN FEARS, 302 00:17:11,334 --> 00:17:14,034 WE SHARED CERTAIN FEELINGS ABOUT OUR BODIES 303 00:17:14,101 --> 00:17:17,201 AND THAT COLLECTIVELY WE COULD-- 304 00:17:17,267 --> 00:17:19,867 WE COULD HELP HEAL THAT. 305 00:17:19,934 --> 00:17:22,101 Spencer: VERY STILL. 306 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,500 Shawn: IT WAS A UNIQUE MOMENT TOO, 307 00:17:26,567 --> 00:17:29,167 TO JUST FORGET FOR A MOMENT THAT YOU'RE HIV POSITIVE 308 00:17:29,234 --> 00:17:31,500 BECAUSE YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT BEING NAKED 309 00:17:31,567 --> 00:17:34,134 AND ABOUT, "AM I GOING TO RUB SOMEBODY THE WRONG WAY? 310 00:17:34,201 --> 00:17:36,468 WHERE'S MY ELBOW GOING BACK THERE? SORRY, MAN." 311 00:17:36,533 --> 00:17:39,401 I THINK EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM AT ONE POINT 312 00:17:39,468 --> 00:17:42,401 COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT BEING HIV POSITIVE 313 00:17:42,468 --> 00:17:45,434 EVEN THOUGH THAT WAS THE REASON THEY WERE THERE. 314 00:17:45,500 --> 00:17:49,034 Spencer: OKAY, HERE WE GO AGAIN. STAY STILL. 315 00:17:53,734 --> 00:17:56,368 Julia: WHEN I WAS DIAGNOSED 316 00:17:56,434 --> 00:17:59,434 I DIDN'T REACT IN ANY PARTICULAR WAY. 317 00:17:59,500 --> 00:18:02,767 I WAS ALREADY AN ADDICT. I WAS TRYING TO KILL MYSELF SLOWLY, SO-- 318 00:18:02,834 --> 00:18:06,734 THAT WAS KIND OF LIKE, "WELL, THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT." 319 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,734 IT DIDN'T REQUIRE I DO ANYTHING MORE. 320 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,401 I DIDN'T HAVE TO TAKE ANY MORE PILLS, IF YOU WILL, 321 00:18:12,468 --> 00:18:15,800 OR CUT MY WRISTS. I WAS MISERABLE FOR YEARS. 322 00:18:15,867 --> 00:18:19,500 I'D BEEN SO DEPRESSED FOR SO LONG. 323 00:18:19,567 --> 00:18:21,600 I HAVE A HISTORY OF SEXUAL ABUSE 324 00:18:21,667 --> 00:18:24,834 AND THAT HAS COLORED MY WHOLE SENSE OF SELF 325 00:18:24,900 --> 00:18:27,267 AND MY BODY IMAGE FOR YEARS. 326 00:18:27,334 --> 00:18:30,167 I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO COME OUT FROM BEHIND THAT. 327 00:18:30,234 --> 00:18:32,900 I WANTED TO BE PROUD OF WHO I AM, 328 00:18:32,967 --> 00:18:34,633 AND I WANTED TO FIND OUT 329 00:18:34,700 --> 00:18:37,967 AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO BRING THAT PRIDE BACK TO MY FAMILY. 330 00:18:39,434 --> 00:18:41,134 IT'S A PRETTY TALL ORDER 331 00:18:41,201 --> 00:18:44,067 BECAUSE BEING THIS WOMAN, 332 00:18:44,134 --> 00:18:48,034 THIS TRIP MEANS SO MANY THINGS. IT MEANS YOU'RE LIVING WITH HIV. 333 00:18:48,101 --> 00:18:51,468 IT MEANS YOU HAVE A HISTORY OF SUBSTANCE ABUSE, PROSTITUTION, HIV. 334 00:18:51,533 --> 00:18:53,434 IT MEANS ALL THOSE THINGS. 335 00:18:53,500 --> 00:18:55,834 BUT IT ALSO MEANS A PERSON OF STRENGTH. 336 00:18:55,900 --> 00:18:58,500 A PERSON WITH A PAST, YES, BUT A PERSON WITH A FUTURE. 337 00:18:58,567 --> 00:19:01,633 A PERSON WITH SOME HOPE, STRENGTH, LOVE-- 338 00:19:01,700 --> 00:19:04,101 THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS TO ME. 339 00:19:04,167 --> 00:19:05,867 Spencer: OKAY, LOOK HERE. 340 00:19:05,934 --> 00:19:08,867 VERY GOOD. DON'T MOVE. 341 00:19:08,934 --> 00:19:11,434 EVERYONE, CLOSE YOUR EYES. 342 00:19:12,567 --> 00:19:13,967 ONE... OPEN YOUR EYES. 343 00:19:14,034 --> 00:19:16,533 TWO... GREAT. 344 00:19:17,934 --> 00:19:19,734 Ron: I THINK THAT EVERYONE 345 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,101 PROBABLY FELT A SENSE OF CAMARADERIE. 346 00:19:22,167 --> 00:19:25,368 WE'RE ALL NAKED, WE'RE ALL HERE, 347 00:19:25,434 --> 00:19:27,401 WE'RE ALL POSITIVE, 348 00:19:27,468 --> 00:19:31,067 BUT WE'RE ALL DIFFERENT IN SOME WAY. 349 00:19:37,234 --> 00:19:41,167 Mark: WE WERE MARRIED ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO. 350 00:19:41,234 --> 00:19:43,800 WE PETITIONED THE VATICAN IN ROME, 351 00:19:43,867 --> 00:19:46,533 AND WE ACTUALLY GOT OUR PAPAL BLESSING. 352 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,067 MARK PROPOSED AT CAFE RAFAEL, 353 00:19:49,134 --> 00:19:51,468 WHICH IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER FROM HERE. 354 00:19:51,533 --> 00:19:53,500 I GOT DOWN ON ONE KNEE 355 00:19:53,567 --> 00:19:56,834 AND HAD A BIG, OVERSIZED PLASTIC ENGAGEMENT RING. 356 00:19:56,900 --> 00:19:59,567 THERE WE HAVE OUR CAKE TOP. 357 00:19:59,633 --> 00:20:02,267 I REMEMBER SAYING, "OH MY GOD, GET UP. GET UP." 358 00:20:02,334 --> 00:20:04,468 "WILL YOU--?" "I SAID GET UP." 359 00:20:04,533 --> 00:20:06,867 AND THEN YOU FINALLY SAID YES. 360 00:20:06,934 --> 00:20:08,867 - YEAH. - AND THEN I GOT UP. 361 00:20:08,934 --> 00:20:11,633 OUR MARRIAGE HAS LASTED LONGER 362 00:20:11,700 --> 00:20:15,633 THAN SOME OF THE STRAIGHT MARRIAGES IN OUR FAMILY, SO-- ( laughs ) 363 00:20:15,700 --> 00:20:19,167 I DO NOT HAVE AIDS. I'M HIV POSITIVE. 364 00:20:19,234 --> 00:20:21,401 I'VE BEEN HIV POSITIVE FOR 20 YEARS. 365 00:20:21,468 --> 00:20:25,900 - VINNY, YOU'VE BEEN HIV...? - POSITIVE FOR 14 YEARS. 366 00:20:25,967 --> 00:20:29,533 - AND...? - AND AIDS FOR 10. 367 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,201 Mark: THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HIV AND AIDS 368 00:20:33,267 --> 00:20:36,234 IS A SOMEWHAT IMAGINARY 369 00:20:36,301 --> 00:20:39,301 BUT VERY IMPORTANT BOUNDARY 370 00:20:39,368 --> 00:20:43,134 BETWEEN BEING HIV-POSITIVE AND HEALTHY 371 00:20:43,201 --> 00:20:46,267 AND HAVING "FULL-BLOWN AIDS." 372 00:20:46,334 --> 00:20:50,301 IF YOU GET LESS THAN 200 T-CELLS IN REPEATED BLOOD WORK, 373 00:20:50,368 --> 00:20:51,834 THEN YOU HAVE AIDS. 374 00:20:51,900 --> 00:20:55,500 WHEN I WAS FIRST DIAGNOSED WITH HIV, I THOUGHT-- 375 00:20:55,567 --> 00:20:58,434 WELL, THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS HIV IN 1987. 376 00:20:58,500 --> 00:21:02,201 IT WAS AIDS-RELATED COMPLEX, A.R.C. OR WHATEVER-- 377 00:21:02,267 --> 00:21:04,834 AND I THOUGHT I WOULD DIE. 378 00:21:04,900 --> 00:21:08,134 I THOUGHT-- I WAS WAITING TO DIE. 379 00:21:08,201 --> 00:21:10,633 MY PLANNING WINDOW BECAME VERY SHORT. 380 00:21:10,700 --> 00:21:13,401 I STOPPED BUYING NEW CLOTHES. 381 00:21:13,468 --> 00:21:15,533 WHO'S GOING TO NEED 'EM? 382 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,533 THE ANNUAL CHECK-UP AT THE DENTIST'S OFFICE-- 383 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,800 HEY, WHY WASTE MY TIME WITH THAT? 384 00:21:22,867 --> 00:21:25,533 I DIDN'T TELL ANYONE FOR FIVE YEARS EITHER. 385 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,101 NOBODY. I COULD NOT TELL ANYONE. 386 00:21:29,167 --> 00:21:31,134 OH GOD, BACK IN THOSE DAYS, 387 00:21:31,201 --> 00:21:34,667 LOVERS WERE LEAVING ONE ANOTHER. 388 00:21:34,734 --> 00:21:37,234 NEIGHBORS WERE FREAKING OUT. 389 00:21:37,301 --> 00:21:39,301 FAMILIES WERE FREAKING OUT. 390 00:21:39,368 --> 00:21:41,334 I HAD THREE ROOMMATES. 391 00:21:41,401 --> 00:21:44,034 I DIDN'T KNOW HOW THEY WOULD DEAL WITH IT. 392 00:21:44,101 --> 00:21:47,401 I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO SHARE IT WITH THEM... 393 00:21:50,533 --> 00:21:52,633 SO I KEPT IT TO MYSELF. 394 00:21:52,700 --> 00:21:55,034 I HAD FRIENDS THAT I HAD TOLD 395 00:21:55,101 --> 00:21:57,434 AROUND THE SAME TIME, 396 00:21:57,500 --> 00:22:01,067 AND THEY WOULDN'T LET ME TOUCH THEIR KIDS. 397 00:22:01,134 --> 00:22:04,500 YOU KNOW, THERE WERE BABIES-- BIG LARGE ITALIAN FAMILY. 398 00:22:04,567 --> 00:22:07,867 I REMEMBER SOMEBODY WALKED BY 399 00:22:07,934 --> 00:22:10,301 AND SNATCHED A KID OUT OF MY ARM 400 00:22:10,368 --> 00:22:13,368 OR WOULDN'T LET ME EAT FROM THEIR PLATES. 401 00:22:13,434 --> 00:22:17,434 I WENT THROUGH-- I ESTRANGED MYSELF FROM THEM FOR YEARS 402 00:22:17,500 --> 00:22:19,368 BECAUSE I COULDN'T, YOU KNOW-- 403 00:22:19,434 --> 00:22:22,401 I COULDN'T DEAL WITH THEIR PHOBIA. 404 00:22:22,468 --> 00:22:25,468 Spencer: THE PERSON NEXT TO YOU, GO-- STAY ON THE CHAIR. 405 00:22:25,533 --> 00:22:27,800 AND THE PERSON NEXT TO YOU GO UP ON THE COUNTER. 406 00:22:27,867 --> 00:22:30,000 SO, BOOM BOOM BOOM. 407 00:22:30,067 --> 00:22:33,000 YES, ON THE COUNTER. EVERYONE JUST FALLS AND DRAPES. 408 00:22:33,067 --> 00:22:36,500 EVEN IF YOU FALL OFF ONTO PEOPLE, IT'S GOING TO BE JUST LIKE-- 409 00:22:36,567 --> 00:22:39,101 LIKE NOODLE SOUP. 410 00:22:39,167 --> 00:22:41,934 ALL RIGHT. HERE WE GO. ONE... 411 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,434 TWO, THREE... DROP. 412 00:22:46,900 --> 00:22:49,533 VERY GOOD. VERY GOOD IN THE FRONT. VERY GOOD! 413 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,201 HERE WE GO. 414 00:22:51,267 --> 00:22:55,201 UM, RIGHT OVER HERE, COULD YOU COVER YOUR SPECIAL PORTIONS? 415 00:22:55,267 --> 00:22:57,967 ( laughter ) 416 00:23:01,633 --> 00:23:03,633 Shawn: I GREW UP IN WAYNESBORO, VIRGINIA, 417 00:23:03,700 --> 00:23:07,034 AND WHEN I WAS TESTED FOR HIV 418 00:23:07,101 --> 00:23:09,700 IT WAS 1987. I WAS IN THE SIXTH GRADE. 419 00:23:09,767 --> 00:23:12,734 MY PARENTS WANTED TO GET ME TESTED BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE 420 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,567 IN THE HEMOPHILIA COMMUNITY WERE TESTING POSITIVE FOR HIV 421 00:23:16,633 --> 00:23:18,800 BECAUSE OF THE BLOOD PRODUCTS. 422 00:23:18,867 --> 00:23:21,900 AND WHEN I WAS TESTED, IT CAME BACK POSITIVE. 423 00:23:21,967 --> 00:23:24,700 ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE MY PARENTS TOLD 424 00:23:24,767 --> 00:23:26,567 WAS MY SIXTH-GRADE TEACHER, 425 00:23:26,633 --> 00:23:28,567 BECAUSE I HAD BEEN MISSING A LOT OF SCHOOL, 426 00:23:28,633 --> 00:23:30,533 BECAUSE I WAS GETTING SORE THROATS 427 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,334 THAT I COULDN'T REALLY GET OVER. 428 00:23:32,401 --> 00:23:34,967 MY TEACHER, SHE HAD SOME CONCERNS 429 00:23:35,034 --> 00:23:37,201 ABOUT HIV TRANSMISSION. 430 00:23:37,267 --> 00:23:40,134 SHE WANTED TO KNOW IF I WAS A RISK TO THE OTHER STUDENTS, 431 00:23:40,201 --> 00:23:42,834 SO SHE WENT TO HER DOCTOR. 432 00:23:42,900 --> 00:23:45,368 AND HER DOCTOR WAS EITHER ON THE SCHOOL BOARD 433 00:23:45,434 --> 00:23:48,368 OR HAD CLOSE CONNECTIONS WITH THE WAYNESBORO SCHOOL BOARD, 434 00:23:48,434 --> 00:23:52,167 AND I WAS EXPELLED FROM PUBLIC SCHOOL. 435 00:23:52,234 --> 00:23:55,633 I WAS ALLOWED BACK IN JUST BECAUSE MY PARENTS BATTLED THEM-- 436 00:23:55,700 --> 00:23:58,500 WITH LAWYERS WHO TOLD THEM IT WAS ILLEGAL, 437 00:23:58,567 --> 00:24:00,533 WITH DOCTORS WHO TOLD THEM, 438 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,533 "SHAWN IS NOT A DANGER TO THE OTHER STUDENTS. 439 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,867 HE'S NOT GOING TO BE RUNNING AROUND 440 00:24:06,934 --> 00:24:09,700 HAVING UNPROTECTED SEX DURING SCIENCE CLASS." 441 00:24:09,767 --> 00:24:12,800 YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE FEARS WERE SO IRRATIONAL. 442 00:24:12,867 --> 00:24:14,900 A LOT OF PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY 443 00:24:14,967 --> 00:24:17,700 WHO THOUGHT THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT 444 00:24:17,767 --> 00:24:20,067 REALIZED "THIS IS OUT THERE." 445 00:24:23,468 --> 00:24:27,401 Spence: I HEARD MY PARENTS AND THEIR PEER GROUP SAY 446 00:24:27,468 --> 00:24:31,401 THAT AIDS WAS A GOD-GIVEN 447 00:24:31,468 --> 00:24:35,368 DEATH WISH AGAINST HOMOSEXUALITY, 448 00:24:35,434 --> 00:24:37,334 SO I WAS SCARED TO SAY ANYTHING 449 00:24:37,401 --> 00:24:39,434 BECAUSE THEY TRULY DID BELIEVE THAT. 450 00:24:39,500 --> 00:24:42,000 IF YOU'RE GOING TO TELL A FRIEND, "I HAVE CANCER," 451 00:24:42,067 --> 00:24:44,201 THAT FRIEND WILL FEEL SORRY FOR YOU. 452 00:24:44,267 --> 00:24:47,734 "OH, I'M SO SORRY. OH, SHE HAS CANCER. SHE'S GOING TO DIE." 453 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,767 IF YOU'RE GOING TO TELL THIS PERSON, "OH, I HAVE AIDS." 454 00:24:50,834 --> 00:24:54,500 THE PERSON WILL JUST LOOK AND SAY, "OH MY GOD, WHAT DID SHE DO?" 455 00:24:54,567 --> 00:24:56,334 I MEAN, "SHE DESERVES IT." 456 00:24:56,401 --> 00:24:58,667 ( chattering ) 457 00:25:03,567 --> 00:25:06,700 Ron: I'M SINGLE. IT'S DIFFICULT-- 458 00:25:06,767 --> 00:25:08,834 THE DISCLOSURE FACTOR. 459 00:25:08,900 --> 00:25:11,334 HOW DO YOU TELL THE PERSON? 460 00:25:11,401 --> 00:25:13,434 HOW IS THIS PERSON GOING TO REACT? 461 00:25:13,500 --> 00:25:15,468 I ONCE HAD AN ATTORNEY 462 00:25:15,533 --> 00:25:18,000 WHO WAS IN A GROUP WITH ME. 463 00:25:18,067 --> 00:25:22,734 HE AND I HAD JUST THIS TERRIBLE... 464 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,533 DEBATE ONE NIGHT. 465 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,500 HE TOLD ME THAT THE "LAST CLEAR CHANCE" DOCTRINE 466 00:25:28,567 --> 00:25:32,434 OBLIGATED ME TO DISCLOSE MY STATUS 467 00:25:32,500 --> 00:25:35,368 TO PEOPLE AUTOMATICALLY, 468 00:25:35,434 --> 00:25:38,034 AND I DISAGREED WITH THAT. 469 00:25:38,101 --> 00:25:42,034 I TOLD HIM THAT SAFE SEX IS AN INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY. 470 00:25:42,101 --> 00:25:44,734 IF I MEET A PERSON IN A SEX CLUB, 471 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,000 I'M NOT GOING TO RAISE THE ISSUE 472 00:25:48,067 --> 00:25:50,967 BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T GO TO SEX CLUBS 473 00:25:51,034 --> 00:25:54,201 TO HEAR ABOUT PEOPLE'S STATUSES. 474 00:25:57,567 --> 00:26:01,101 HOWEVER, I HAVE BEEN ASKED IN A SEX CLUB, 475 00:26:01,167 --> 00:26:03,201 AND I'VE DISCLOSED. 476 00:26:03,267 --> 00:26:06,167 I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM IF THE QUESTION IS ASKED OF ME-- 477 00:26:06,234 --> 00:26:07,667 NO MATTER WHERE IT IS-- 478 00:26:07,734 --> 00:26:10,567 BUT I'M NOT GOING TO VOLUNTEER IT 479 00:26:10,633 --> 00:26:14,134 IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS 480 00:26:14,201 --> 00:26:17,101 AND I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY. 481 00:26:17,167 --> 00:26:20,834 I THINK IF YOU WANT TO KNOW, THEN YOU'LL INQUIRE. 482 00:26:22,734 --> 00:26:25,301 Spencer: KEEP STILL. 483 00:26:26,334 --> 00:26:28,434 VERY GOOD. 484 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,134 NOW IF YOU CAN ALL LOOK AT EACH OTHER NOW. 485 00:26:38,934 --> 00:26:42,600 IS EVERYONE OKAY? THIS IS GOING TO BE GREAT ONCE THIS HAPPENS. 486 00:26:42,667 --> 00:26:45,500 OKAY, THERE YOU GO. THAT'S PERFECT. 487 00:26:45,567 --> 00:26:47,834 OKAY, THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S VERY RELAXED. 488 00:26:47,900 --> 00:26:49,867 Sean: WE FOCUSED SO MUCH ON GIVING BACK 489 00:26:49,934 --> 00:26:52,234 THE POSSIBILITY OF SURVIVAL TO PEOPLE WITH HIV, 490 00:26:52,301 --> 00:26:54,500 WHICH IS UNBELIEVABLY IMPORTANT, 491 00:26:54,567 --> 00:26:56,633 BUT IT HAS CONTRIBUTED TO THE EROSION 492 00:26:56,700 --> 00:26:59,700 OF THE MESSAGE THAT HIV IS A REALLY BAD THING. 493 00:26:59,767 --> 00:27:03,201 IT MESSES UP YOUR LIFE. YOU DON'T WANT TO GET IT. 494 00:27:03,267 --> 00:27:06,533 THERE ARE ACTUALLY PEOPLE THAT BELIEVE THAT THESE DRUGS 495 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,834 ARE SO PROGRESSIVE 496 00:27:09,900 --> 00:27:11,667 THAT EVEN IF THEY DID GET HIV, 497 00:27:11,734 --> 00:27:13,434 IT DOESN'T CONCERN THEM ANYMORE. 498 00:27:13,500 --> 00:27:16,500 THEY'LL JUST TAKE DRUGS AND THEY'LL LIVE A FULL LIFE. WHO CARES? 499 00:27:16,567 --> 00:27:19,034 Spence: OKAY, DON'T MOVE, VERY STILL. 500 00:27:19,101 --> 00:27:22,967 Barbara: PEOPLE ARE SO LAX AND SO CAVALIER, 501 00:27:23,034 --> 00:27:25,234 WHICH IS HOW I GOT HIV IN THE FIRST PLACE-- 502 00:27:25,301 --> 00:27:28,767 WAS BECAUSE THIS WAS SOMEBODY ELSE'S DISEASE. 503 00:27:28,834 --> 00:27:32,667 WHEN MY BOYFRIEND AND I GOT BACK TOGETHER IN 1988, 504 00:27:32,734 --> 00:27:35,334 WE DISCUSSED THE IDEA OF SAFE SEX. 505 00:27:35,401 --> 00:27:38,167 WE DECIDED WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT SAFE SEX 506 00:27:38,234 --> 00:27:40,468 BECAUSE THIS IS A GAY MEN'S DISEASE, 507 00:27:40,533 --> 00:27:43,500 THIS IS FOR I.V. DRUG USERS. WHAT DO WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THIS FOR? 508 00:27:43,567 --> 00:27:45,700 WELL... HELLO! 509 00:27:48,134 --> 00:27:52,201 HE HAD FULL-BLOWN AIDS. HE HAD BEEN WALKING AROUND WITH IT MUCH LONGER THAN ME, 510 00:27:52,267 --> 00:27:55,734 AND HE PASSED ON IN '92. 511 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,434 AND MY DOCTOR TOLD ME OVER THE PHONE 512 00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:01,167 THAT MY TEST RESULTS CAME BACK POSITIVE. 513 00:28:01,234 --> 00:28:03,201 FIRST OF ALL, I THOUGHT I WAS GOING 514 00:28:03,267 --> 00:28:05,301 TO DROP DEAD WITHIN SIX MONTHS. 515 00:28:05,368 --> 00:28:07,600 I STARTED PLANNING MY WILL. 516 00:28:07,667 --> 00:28:09,800 THEN I CALLED UP A COUPLE OF FRIENDS OF MINE 517 00:28:09,867 --> 00:28:12,167 AND TOLD THEM I WANTED TO PLAN MY FUNERAL. 518 00:28:12,234 --> 00:28:16,401 EVERYTHING WAS JUST SO SELF-CONSCIOUS TO ME. 519 00:28:16,468 --> 00:28:20,401 I JUST FELT LIKE A WALKING LETHAL WEAPON. 520 00:28:21,967 --> 00:28:24,767 OKAY, WHEN YOU'RE DROPPING THIS TIME, 521 00:28:24,834 --> 00:28:26,401 DON'T DROP LIKE YOU'RE SITTING. 522 00:28:26,468 --> 00:28:29,034 DROP LIKE YOU'RE LYING. OKAY? 523 00:28:29,101 --> 00:28:31,468 SO YOU'RE NOT PROPPING YOURSELF UP BY AN ARM, 524 00:28:31,533 --> 00:28:34,301 AND FEEL FREE TO RECLINE ON SOMEONE YOU KNOW-- 525 00:28:34,368 --> 00:28:36,700 - OR DON'T KNOW. - ( laughter ) 526 00:28:38,967 --> 00:28:42,800 ALL RIGHT, ONE, TWO, THREE. 527 00:28:46,101 --> 00:28:48,567 THAT'S FANTASTIC. THAT'S-- OH, THIS IS GREAT. 528 00:28:48,633 --> 00:28:50,734 THIS-- OH, THIS IS NICE. 529 00:28:56,434 --> 00:28:59,567 Shawn: TWO YEARS AFTER I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH HIV 530 00:28:59,633 --> 00:29:01,600 MY MOM BROUGHT UP THE TOPIC 531 00:29:01,667 --> 00:29:04,967 OF STARTING TREATMENT FOR HIV. 532 00:29:05,034 --> 00:29:08,468 SHE WAS GETTING A LOT OF PRESSURE FROM MY DOCTOR. 533 00:29:08,533 --> 00:29:10,834 A.Z.T. WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS AROUND 534 00:29:10,900 --> 00:29:12,800 UNTIL '95 OR SO. 535 00:29:12,867 --> 00:29:14,834 THERE WERE A COUPLE OF OTHERS, 536 00:29:14,900 --> 00:29:18,034 BUT THAT WAS JUST TO PROLONG YOUR LIFE A LITTLE BIT. 537 00:29:18,101 --> 00:29:21,234 I WATCHED PEOPLE SUFFER SO HORRIBLY 538 00:29:21,301 --> 00:29:23,267 AND I'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE DIE IN MY ARMS. 539 00:29:23,334 --> 00:29:26,000 IT WAS JUST HORRENDOUS, THESE PAINFUL DEATHS 540 00:29:26,067 --> 00:29:30,034 WITH CANCERS ALL OVER-- BLACK AND BLUE ALL OVER THEIR ARMS AND FACES, 541 00:29:30,101 --> 00:29:34,067 THESE BEAUTIFUL, SWEET, WONDERFUL, GIVING PEOPLE. 542 00:29:34,134 --> 00:29:37,301 IN 1994 THE PROTEASE INHIBITORS CAME, 543 00:29:37,368 --> 00:29:40,468 SO I'VE BEEN ON CRIXIVAN, INVIRASE, 544 00:29:40,533 --> 00:29:42,800 SUSTIVA, KALETRA, 545 00:29:42,867 --> 00:29:47,067 VIREAD, VIDEX-- I MEAN EVERYTHING. 546 00:29:47,134 --> 00:29:49,368 SO IT WOULD BE NOVIR AND FORTOVASE, 547 00:29:49,434 --> 00:29:52,468 VIDEX AND VIREAD, THOSE ARE THE... 548 00:29:52,533 --> 00:29:55,368 THE ANTIVIRALS. 549 00:29:55,434 --> 00:29:57,800 AND THEN THERE'S ALL THE REST OF THIS STUFF 550 00:29:57,867 --> 00:30:01,134 THAT I TAKE. ALL THESE WONDERFUL MEDS. 551 00:30:01,201 --> 00:30:03,900 WHEN COMBINATION THERAPY CAME OUT-- 552 00:30:03,967 --> 00:30:05,767 AND... 553 00:30:05,834 --> 00:30:08,633 I AM AS EXTRAORDINARY AN EXAMPLE 554 00:30:08,700 --> 00:30:10,900 OF SOMEONE WHO HAS BENEFITED FROM THAT 555 00:30:10,967 --> 00:30:13,900 AS I KNOW-- 556 00:30:13,967 --> 00:30:16,900 I WOULD SAY WITHIN THREE DAYS OF STARTING THE PILLS 557 00:30:16,967 --> 00:30:19,334 I KNEW I WAS GETTING BETTER. 558 00:30:19,401 --> 00:30:22,700 IT WAS LIKE MY BODY HAD BEEN A SWIMMING POOL FULL OF VIRUS, 559 00:30:22,767 --> 00:30:24,533 AND SOMEONE HAD PULLED THE PLUG 560 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,900 AND EVERY DAY MORE AND MORE OF IT WAS BEING DRAINED OUT OF ME. 561 00:30:27,967 --> 00:30:30,034 A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE STILL ALIVE 562 00:30:30,101 --> 00:30:33,267 DUE TO THE COCKTAIL, AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE THAT I KNOW 563 00:30:33,334 --> 00:30:36,867 THAT ARE OVER 20-YEARS POSITIVE THAT NEVER EVEN HAD TO TAKE A DRUG YET, 564 00:30:36,934 --> 00:30:38,767 SO EACH PERSON IS DIFFERENT. 565 00:30:38,834 --> 00:30:41,800 ARE THERE ANY PEOPLE THAT ARE COUPLES HERE? 566 00:30:41,867 --> 00:30:43,834 I WOULD LIKE WHOEVER IS A COUPLE 567 00:30:43,900 --> 00:30:46,234 TO EMBRACE-- AS YOU HAVE BEEN. 568 00:30:46,301 --> 00:30:48,867 Mark: THE BEST NEWS YOU CAN GET 569 00:30:48,934 --> 00:30:51,201 IS TO BE TOLD YOU'RE GOING TO DIE 570 00:30:51,267 --> 00:30:55,167 AND THEN NOT DIE, BECAUSE WHEN YOU REALIZE THAT 571 00:30:55,234 --> 00:30:58,167 THEN YOU GO, "OH SHIT, I HAD ALL THESE SCREWED UP THINGS. 572 00:30:58,234 --> 00:31:00,967 I WAS WORRIED ABOUT THE MORTGAGE AND I WASN'T WORRIED 573 00:31:01,034 --> 00:31:03,633 ABOUT SPENDING TIME WITH MY FAMILY." 574 00:31:03,700 --> 00:31:06,967 NOBODY EVER DIES AND GOES, "OH, I SHOULD HAVE BEEN WORKING MORE." 575 00:31:07,034 --> 00:31:10,834 THEY ALWAYS GO, "I MEANT TO DO THIS. I SHOULD HAVE BEEN WRITING. 576 00:31:10,900 --> 00:31:14,834 I WANTED TO DO THIS." AND WHEN YOU ARE HIT OVER THE HEAD WITH 577 00:31:14,900 --> 00:31:18,834 "YOU ARE GOING TO DIE," IT REFOCUSES THINGS. 578 00:31:18,900 --> 00:31:20,867 I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS 579 00:31:20,934 --> 00:31:24,000 VINNY AND I HAVE HAD SUCH A WONDERFUL RELATIONSHIP, 580 00:31:24,067 --> 00:31:26,034 BECAUSE WE KEEP ON BEING TOLD, 581 00:31:26,101 --> 00:31:29,167 "YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE MUCH MORE TIME TOGETHER 582 00:31:29,234 --> 00:31:31,567 SO YOU BETTER MAKE THE MOST OF IT." 583 00:31:33,734 --> 00:31:35,734 IT'S HARD. 584 00:31:37,767 --> 00:31:41,134 I PROMISED THAT I'D OUT-LIVE HIM THOUGH. 585 00:31:42,267 --> 00:31:44,468 I THOUGHT HE MIGHT NOT MAKE IT THROUGH 586 00:31:44,533 --> 00:31:46,401 WHEN I WAS IN THE HOSPITAL 587 00:31:46,468 --> 00:31:50,101 AND HE WAS BEING TAKEN CARE OF BY THE NURSE 588 00:31:50,167 --> 00:31:53,334 AND HE WAS HAVING A BAD SPELL. 589 00:31:53,401 --> 00:31:57,167 BUT NOW, ONCE AGAIN, I'M THE HEALTHY ONE 590 00:31:57,234 --> 00:31:59,567 AND VINNY'S DOING PRETTY GOOD TOO. 591 00:31:59,633 --> 00:32:02,101 I'M NOT DOING BAD. 592 00:32:02,167 --> 00:32:04,267 SO... 593 00:32:04,334 --> 00:32:06,867 ( tearfully ) I GET A LITTLE SAD THOUGH. 594 00:32:06,934 --> 00:32:09,368 HOW COME? 595 00:32:09,434 --> 00:32:11,700 I JUST DO. 596 00:32:14,368 --> 00:32:16,900 IT'S OKAY. 597 00:32:22,234 --> 00:32:25,067 Spencer: I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE. IT'S BEEN SO NICE. 598 00:32:25,134 --> 00:32:27,201 THANK YOU. 599 00:32:39,667 --> 00:32:42,067 - AWESOME. - NICE MEETING YOU. 600 00:32:42,134 --> 00:32:43,600 - THANK YOU. - THANK YOU. 601 00:32:43,667 --> 00:32:46,101 IT WAS A GOOD JOB. YOU DID A GREAT JOB. 602 00:32:46,167 --> 00:32:48,900 - I THINK IT WAS A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE. - THANK YOU SO MUCH. 603 00:32:48,967 --> 00:32:50,633 I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. 604 00:32:50,700 --> 00:32:52,967 I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING. THANK YOU. 605 00:33:00,301 --> 00:33:02,434 Mark: I THINK IT WAS ABOUT HALF AN HOUR LONGER 606 00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:04,368 THAN WHAT YOU WERE REALLY UP FOR, 607 00:33:04,434 --> 00:33:08,301 - BUT YOU GOT THROUGH IT. - YEAH. 608 00:33:08,368 --> 00:33:11,934 MY HEART JUMPED WHEN SPENCER ASKED ME TO STAND ON THE COUNTERTOP, 609 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,000 BUT ONCE I CROSSED THAT THRESHOLD I COULD HAVE DONE ANYTHING IN THERE. 610 00:33:16,067 --> 00:33:17,767 I THINK WE'VE GOT A COVER. 611 00:33:24,633 --> 00:33:27,468 I LIKE RIGHT HERE, WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT HERE. 612 00:33:27,533 --> 00:33:28,967 RIGHT BACK THERE. 613 00:33:29,034 --> 00:33:31,667 - Assistant: WHICH ONE'S THAT? - RIGHT. 614 00:33:38,101 --> 00:33:40,934 THIS IS A WONDERFUL MOMENT FOR ME, SO THANK YOU. 615 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,401 Woman: YOU SHOULD JUST BE BESIDE YOURSELF. 616 00:33:43,468 --> 00:33:46,201 - IT'S JUST AMAZING. - I'M VERY HAPPY WITH IT. 617 00:33:46,267 --> 00:33:48,567 I'M EXCITED. THIS WAS GREAT. 618 00:34:11,533 --> 00:34:14,533 Elizabeth: I FELT THAT DOING THIS INSTALLATION, 619 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,167 IT WAS TO SHOW THE WORLD WE ARE ALIVE. 620 00:34:18,234 --> 00:34:20,633 WE ARE SUFFERING FROM THE DISEASE. 621 00:34:20,700 --> 00:34:22,600 WE HAVE TO FACE 622 00:34:22,667 --> 00:34:25,667 CHALLENGES EVERYDAY. 623 00:34:25,734 --> 00:34:29,101 Ron: I THINK WE WERE KIND OF COMMUNICATING TO ONE ANOTHER, 624 00:34:29,167 --> 00:34:32,101 YOU KNOW, THAT "I'M HERE WITH YOU. 625 00:34:32,167 --> 00:34:34,434 I'M HERE FOR YOU. 626 00:34:34,500 --> 00:34:36,934 WE'RE ALL IN THIS THING TOGETHER." 627 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,734 Julia: I THINK THE MESSAGE IS THAT HIV-AIDS 628 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,700 AFFECTS ALL PEOPLE OF ALL AGES, OF ALL COLORS, 629 00:34:43,767 --> 00:34:45,700 FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE, 630 00:34:45,767 --> 00:34:47,468 THAT WE'RE LIVING AND THRIVING, 631 00:34:47,533 --> 00:34:50,334 THAT, IN FACT, WE DON'T LOOK ANY DIFFERENT FROM ANYONE ELSE 632 00:34:50,401 --> 00:34:52,234 AND THAT IT COULD BE YOU. 633 00:34:52,301 --> 00:34:56,234 Spence: THE SHOOT WAS A DIVINE MOMENT FOR ME. 634 00:34:56,301 --> 00:34:59,201 I TACTILELY COULD FEEL THE PRESENCE OF KENNY AND KERRY, 635 00:34:59,267 --> 00:35:02,867 TONY AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT PEOPLE-- THEY WERE THERE. 636 00:35:02,934 --> 00:35:05,234 THAT GIVES ME PEACE. PERIOD. 637 00:35:05,301 --> 00:35:09,234 SO IF I DIE RIGHT NOW OR TOMORROW OR NEXT WEEK, 638 00:35:09,301 --> 00:35:12,934 I'M GOING TO DIE VERY HAPPY AND VERY BLESSED. 639 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,734 Sean: FEELING YOUR MORTALITY ENABLES A CLARITY OF FOCUS. 640 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,334 YOU LEARN ABOUT FRIENDS, 641 00:35:31,401 --> 00:35:32,767 YOU LEARN ABOUT REAL LOVE, 642 00:35:32,834 --> 00:35:34,600 YOU REALLY GET AN UNDERSTANDING 643 00:35:34,667 --> 00:35:36,633 OF WHAT UNCONDITIONAL LOVE MEANS. 644 00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:40,667 YOU ALSO LEARN THAT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO DIE, 645 00:35:40,734 --> 00:35:44,468 AND EVERYONE KNOWS THAT, SO THAT ISN'T NEWS TO ANYONE. 646 00:35:44,533 --> 00:35:46,700 SO IT ISN'T ABOUT HAVING INFORMATION, 647 00:35:46,767 --> 00:35:49,034 BUT IT'S ABOUT LEARNING IT 648 00:35:49,101 --> 00:35:51,934 AND EXPERIENCING IT IN YOUR LIFE AND REALIZING IT. 649 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,500 THAT MAKES THE TIME WE HAVE 650 00:35:54,567 --> 00:35:57,401 WHILE WE'RE ALIVE PRECIOUS AND IMPORTANT. 651 00:35:57,468 --> 00:36:01,401 FOR, I THINK, A LOT OF SURVIVORS OF AIDS, 652 00:36:01,468 --> 00:36:04,234 IT'S GIVEN THEM THE INSPIRATION 653 00:36:04,301 --> 00:36:06,468 AND EVEN COURAGE 654 00:36:06,533 --> 00:36:09,401 TO MAKE THEIR LIVES IMPORTANT 655 00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:12,234 AND TO HAVE MEANING. 656 00:36:14,934 --> 00:36:16,867 ( instrumental music playing ) 50469

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