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[pop music playing]
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-[machine beeps]
-[indistinct chattering]
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-[Nick] Can you hear me?
-[Vanessa] I got you.
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-Is this how they hear each other?
-What a trip.
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If we went to a music festival, would I
be able to carry you on my shoulder?
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[laughing]
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-No! Now you had me give you my laugh.
-[Nick laughs]
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[Vanessa] And if we were in a pod,
you would have...
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[laughing]
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I mean, if all I heard was that voice,
I would definitely wanna boink you.
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[laughing]
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-Oh, my gosh, just on my voice?
-[laughs]
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-Just on your voice.
-Okay. See if I can change my voice.
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-Hello.
-It sounds like you're trying too hard.
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-[Vanessa] Hey, babe.
-Yeah, that's good.
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-[laughs]
-I'm definitely into it.
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-I've got my reunion dress on.
-The one with the sequins?
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-[Vanessa] Yes, the one with the sequins.
-[laughs]
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-Should we tell them?
-[Nick] Yeah.
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-Let's tell them about the reunion. Ready?
-Yes!
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-I am. I'll see you out there.
-[Nick] Do it!
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This season for the first time ever,
the Love Is Blind reunion
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is coming at you
from the actual stage of Love Is Blind.
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That's right.
We got more behind-the-scenes,
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more guests
and more surprises than ever before.
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Hey, ladies, you almost ready?
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-Vanessa!
-We were born ready.
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The better question is, are they ready?
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-[Johnny] Who would have thought?
-What's up, fellas? How's it feeling?
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Go easy on us, Nick.
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[laughing]
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That's right. All of your favorites
from the season six pods
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will be returning today,
but that's not all.
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Oops! Sorry.
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-We should put locks on these doors.
-[Brennon] This is our pod!
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For the first time ever,
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we'll also be joined by several
former Love Is Blind participants.
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-Hey, Brett, Tiffany.
-Hey, Nick. [chuckles]
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Some things never change.
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-Well, we're ready for you.
-Okay.
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Be there in a second.
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Well, I know we've all got
a lot of questions for everyone here.
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So I say, let's go ahead and get to it.
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I can't wait, but first, come on with me.
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There's something
I've always wanted to do.
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Come on, guys, I gotta show you!
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-Hey, there.
-Hello.
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[Nick exhales] I'm excited for this.
This is gonna be good.
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[Vanessa laughs] Whoo!
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[exhales] So nervous.
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It's exciting. Okay, I can't wait
to get out there. Let's do this!
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Let's go! Let's go!
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[laughing]
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-[cheering]
-[Vanessa] Hi, everybody!
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[pop music playing]
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[Nick] What's up?
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Hi!
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Oh, my gosh!
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[speaks indistinctly]
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-[laughs] Hey!
-Hi!
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Hi.
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-Hello!
-[Nick] Welcome, guys!
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{\an8}Welcome, everyone,
to the Love Is Blind reunion!
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Wow!
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What do you think? Should we bring
our friends from season six out here?
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-[cheering]
-Yeah? You guys sure?
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-Yes.
-All right! Come on out, guys!
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[woman] Oh! Oh!
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[all cheering]
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[pop music playing]
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-[woman 2] Yeah!
-[woman 3] Oh, my God!
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[woman 4] Oh, my God! Oh, my God! Whoo!
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[woman 5] Oh, my God!
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[woman 6] Oh, my God!
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-Whoo!
-[woman 7] Whoo!
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Whoo!
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-[laughing]
-[cheering]
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Welcome, everyone.
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Thank you so much
for joining us here today.
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We're so excited to have you guys
and to see some familiar faces.
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-[Nick] Yeah!
-Yes. Hi, everyone.
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Welcome, guys. Good to see everybody.
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{\an8}[Vanessa] We're gonna catch up
with you in a bit,
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because two of you have
a very big announcement to share.
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{\an8}-Don't worry. We'll get to that later on.
-[Nick] Oh, yes!
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Everybody, get your EpiPens ready.
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[laughing]
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{\an8}Get 'em ready. Thank you, Jessica,
for that one. [Nick laughs]
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{\an8}You are gonna be in disbelief over
what we have in store for you tonight.
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And don't worry, we'll be addressing
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{\an8}every single scandal that has been
gripping you over the past few weeks.
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{\an8}So what do you guys say
we get this started? Are you ready?
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[cheering]
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[Nick] All right.
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AD, help me out on this one.
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-Pick a number between one and 15.
-Four.
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{\an8}-Four?
-[Vanessa] Four's already been asked.
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-[Nick] No.
-[Vanessa] We are teasing.
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What color are your nails?
Are you not painting them red anymore?
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Listen, no red flags over here.
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-[Nick] Okay. At least not tonight.
-No red flags. Not right now.
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[Nick] Well, we have lots of questions,
of course, for AD to come,
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including what happened
with Clay after the altar,
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and has she met up with Clark Kent? Oh!
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{\an8}[Vanessa] Also, I can't wait
to see the receipts
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{\an8}of Matthew's dates with AD and Amber,
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and did he really say
the same thing to both of them?
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[Nick laughs] But first, let's check in
with our season six lovebirds,
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Johnny and Amy.
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-How are you guys?
-[cheering]
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[Johnny] We're good.
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{\an8}-[Vanessa] Doing good?
-[Nick] Well, you look fantastic tonight.
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{\an8}-Look at her, she looks great!
-[laughs]
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{\an8}-And he looks sexy.
-[Vanessa] Both of you guys.
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Your wedding was so touching.
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It was a moment that Nick and I...
we were laying in bed watching it.
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When you were standing there
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before you walked down the aisle
with your dad and your brother,
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I was getting choked up,
but I looked over and he...
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Tears are coming down his face.
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We love how important family is
to you guys,
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and we just wanna know, to this day,
are your families still close?
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Do you still do things together
with each other's families?
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Oh, yeah. Our families talk all the time.
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I mean, my dad calls his dad all the time.
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We've traveled together.
We've gone to visit his family.
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We went to France with my family together.
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{\an8}-Christmas, we spent that in Charlotte.
-With my family.
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We got some photos.
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-[Amy laughs]
-[Johnny] Yeah.
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[Vanessa] Christmas in Charlotte.
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Oh, my gosh!
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-That's a real family photo!
-[Nick] I like the pigtails, buddy.
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The JCPenney photoshoot was
probably one of the best things ever.
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-It was iconic.
-Um...
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Definitely recommend everyone does that.
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And try to get
in the most awkward positions as possible.
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[Amy] I know it looks
like we worship our men.
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-But in reality, they are worshiping us.
-[laughing]
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-[Amy] They worship the ground we walk on.
-[Nick] Not your average family photos.
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You know, guys, it's really
what family's all about, right?
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Family fun, those are the memories
that you're gonna hang onto forever.
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You guys continue to show why you
are absolutely perfect for one another.
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So congrats again on your marriage.
Great to see you guys.
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Thank you so much.
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Stories like yours are the heart
of this life-changing experience.
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Now over the past six seasons,
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we have had the unique pleasure
of watching so many hopeful singles
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meet their spouses from behind a wall.
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[Nick] Eleven couples have ended
the experiment by choosing to say "I do,"
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and nine of those couples
are still married to this very day.
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Honestly, that's a pretty
extraordinary number.
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Really, really cool.
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So tonight, we are thrilled to catch up
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with some of the Love Is Blind family
right here in person,
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but first we wanna take
a quick look back at their love journeys.
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Aww!
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[Nick] Welcome to Love Is Blind!
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-[cheering]
-[laughing]
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-[woman 8] Hello.
-Cameron.
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-[woman 9] Can you see anything?
-What are you looking at?
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It looks like a scene from Frozen.
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-My name is Micah.
-Best voice I've heard so far!
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[laughing]
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{\an8}[Chelsea 1] I love our beautiful
slow rumble roll.
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{\an8}It has been one of the most beautiful
things I've ever been a part of
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{\an8}and been witness to.
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{\an8}-You're cute.
-[Chelsea 1] Beautiful.
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{\an8}[both laughing]
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{\an8}I wanted you to know,
I'm completely in love with you.
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{\an8}[laughs]
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{\an8}Like, you're 100% my lobster.
You're my person.
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I love you too.
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Never in a million years
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did I think I was gonna find love
out of this.
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Will you marry me?
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{\an8}Oh, my God. Yes. I will be your wife.
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{\an8}[Zack] I believe there is nobody
in this world who I'm meant to be with...
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-[shouts]
-[Zack] ...more than you.
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-Will you marry me?
-Yeah.
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♪ Me and you... ♪
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[laughing]
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{\an8}♪ Me and you... ♪
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{\an8}Oh, my God!
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{\an8}-[Johnny] We were cute together.
-[Amy] Yeah.
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{\an8}[laughing] You're so tall!
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[singer vocalizing]
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[woman 10] He is one of
the best people I've met in my life.
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{\an8}-You're really lucky, Brett.
-I love you.
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{\an8}-[woman 11] You're getting married!
-[woman 12] They're so cute!
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{\an8}[women cheering]
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[Chelsea 1 sniffles] I can just see myself
walking down the aisle
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to my husband in this dress.
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-[Zack] I love you so much, Bliss.
-[laughs]
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I do.
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I do.
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I now pronounce you married!
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-[laughing]
-[crowd cheering]
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{\an8}[both] We are married!
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{\an8}[shouts]
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{\an8}Lick it off. [shouts]
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{\an8}-You're my husband. How does that feel?
-Amazing.
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{\an8}I love you so much.
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{\an8}I love you so much too.
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{\an8}[laughs]
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[cheering]
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♪ Me and you ♪
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[Nick] Yeah!
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{\an8}-Awesome.
-Welcome, everyone. Kwame and Chelsea.
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{\an8}[all cheering]
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{\an8}[Vanessa] Tiffany and Brett.
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{\an8}Colleen and Matt.
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{\an8}Alexa and Brennon.
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Plus Micah, Izzy and Gigi!
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-[cheering]
-[laughing]
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-Yes, Gigi!
-[Gigi] Yeah!
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Great to see you.
First off, congratulations.
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{\an8}-Oh, thank you, darling.
-[Nick] Very much in order.
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{\an8}-I look different since you last saw me.
-[Nick] You look beautiful.
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Introduce us to your man here.
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{\an8}Yeah, so this is my partner
and the father of my baby.
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{\an8}-[laughs]
-Blake Horstmann.
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{\an8}-Say hi to Love Is Blind, Blake.
-Hello, everyone.
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{\an8}-[Nick] What's up, Blake?
-Good to be here. [laughs]
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It's good to have you here.
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So you guys are expecting
a baby boy. Is that right?
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A baby boy.
I'm hoping it looks just like him.
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[Chelsea 1] Aww!
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I don't think you could go wrong.
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Oh, thank you.
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[Nick] Is there a name
that you guys have picked out
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that you feel comfortable
sharing with us today?
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So, we're waiting until he pops out.
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And I don't know if he's gonna be
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a little, like, fair skin
and blue-eyed like him
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or a little bit spicier like me.
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So I just wanna see what he looks like.
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I mean, a lot of things already have
his name on it, like my bracelet.
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-So I'm hoping that this is the one.
-[laughs]
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Is the bracelet with his name on it
the spicy name or the Blake name?
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-The Blake name.
-[laughing]
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We're so happy for your love
and that you found your person.
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I actually had Perfect Match lined up.
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I was gonna hang out with you.
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And I ended up
just falling in love and not doing that.
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So it's been a journey.
It's been a different path.
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But it all started here.
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[Vanessa] Yeah!
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Perfect Match's loss
is certainly Blake's gain.
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-Amen, amen, amen.
-[Nick] You guys are a stunning couple.
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-So congrats again.
-Thank you, guys.
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-Thank you for sharing.
-Absolutely.
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Wouldn't have happened without this mess.
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-[Vanessa] Yeah. Well, let's get into it.
-So let's get into it.
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[Nick] Let's move on
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to someone who had a little trouble
deciding on their person.
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{\an8}Jeramey, aloha.
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{\an8}-How's it going?
-[Nick] Digging the shirt.
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-[Jeramey] Yeah.
-[Nick] I live in Hawaii.
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So I can say "aloha"
and not feel bad about it.
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I figured we'd go full send on this.
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[Nick] It's been a year
since you and Laura ended things.
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So how is your love life today?
Are you seeing anyone?
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Uh, it's been going well,
and yes, I am seeing someone.
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Funny you should mention that.
She actually is here today.
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-Guys, should we bring her out?
-[all] Yes.
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The current flame in Jeramey's life?
Let's bring her on out.
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Oh, my God.
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[Nick] Let's please welcome Sarah Ann
to the show.
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[pop music playing]
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{\an8}[woman 13] Oh, not the kiss.
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-[Nick] Right.
-[woman 14] Awkward!
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[laughing]
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-[Vanessa] Hi, Sarah Ann.
-[Sarah Ann] Hello.
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[chuckles]
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Have you been together ever since
you rode off into the sunset on jet skis?
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We have, yeah.
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We've been dating for
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almost a year now.
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-We live together.
-[Vanessa] You live together.
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[Nick] Okay.
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[Vanessa] All right, well, we have lots
of questions for you two, but first,
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Laura has shared her location with us.
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[laughing]
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[Vanessa] She is
in Barcelona, Spain, for work.
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-But we actually have her on Zoom.
-[all] Aww!
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-So, please welcome Laura!
-[all cheering]
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-[Nick] Laura!
-Do we clap?
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-Hmm?
-Do we clap? [chuckles]
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No.
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{\an8}[Nick] How have you been?
How are you? Everything good?
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I'm good. Yeah, all good.
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Wish so badly I could be there in person,
but work always comes first.
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So, Jeramey, we're sitting here
with one woman you've been engaged to,
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one woman you're currently living with,
and sounds like have been for a while.
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Yet, there's a third woman
whose mother went on social media
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and said that you two
were actually engaged
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while you were applying
for this experiment.
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So, what do you have to say
about that claim?
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{\an8}Uh, yeah, I can
actually address that one pretty directly.
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{\an8}It's not true.
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{\an8}So, what had happened is,
yes, I was previously engaged.
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Everybody I dated was well aware of that.
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Um, I had mentioned, yes, sold my house.
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And I did go ahead and apply after
I was out on my own, doing my own thing.
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Got approached to do it
and decided to move forward at that point.
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[Nick] Okay.
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So, Laura, how does that sound to you?
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{\an8}Um, in the pods, he did mention
that he had a fiancée before.
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{\an8}-[Vanessa] Did he mention one to you?
-Yeah.
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{\an8}Well, there's another burning question
directed to Jeramey that we wanna know.
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Why did you lie about your location
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after you shared it with Laura?
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Like, did you not think that
the little button would continue to move...
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[laughing]
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...and follow you?
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Did you leave it in your car
and you had an Apple Watch? Like, what is...
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Okay. No, I can address that too.
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I shared my location
before I left the house.
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Nothing inappropriate happened. We did
hang back and continue to talk afterwards.
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The only time I was ever at Sarah Ann's
house is when I went to go drop her off.
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[Vanessa] But the question was just,
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"Why would you leave your location on
and then lie about it?"
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[laughing]
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Uh, I don't...
I... I didn't intentionally lie about that.
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I did share my location.
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-[Vanessa] Then forget?
-[Jeramey] No.
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Honestly, I'm convinced
that had I not woken up,
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he never would have admitted
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talking to her or going to her house,
in any way shape or form.
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Sarah Ann was actually
telling other people the exact same lie.
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They corroborated together
that they never left the parking lot.
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So, to clarify, when I got back
to the townhouse, Laura was asleep.
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I stayed downstairs
until I heard her getting up,
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and then instantly went up the stairs
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to tell her Sarah Ann and I had had
a conversation. "Here's what happened."
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That's not true.
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{\an8}Once I saw his car get on the highway,
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{\an8}I heard him come home
and purposely stay in the living room.
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Which let's just all call that
for what it is.
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Um, I then woke up at 9:30, ten o'clock.
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He came in. He was kind of
stumbling around his words.
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So I was, like, "Where were you?"
He wouldn't answer straight up.
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And I just knew. I knew he had seen her.
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And, I mean, I freaked out.
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For him to go meet her behind my back,
I just knew it was sketchy.
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You were not waiting for me
when I got home.
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I came upstairs. I told you what happened.
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-I'll admit my fault on the other part...
-[Laura] True.
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I didn't say I was waiting up.
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I should've been on the front porch
waiting for your ass at 6:00 a.m.
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-You said I was laying in my bed.
-[cheering]
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{\an8}[Laura continues indistinctly]
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{\an8}[Jeramey] I'll take my lumps
for what I actually did,
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{\an8}but I'm not gonna have it continue
to be painted to be worse than that.
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-I'm not gonna do that. I'll own that.
-You've never taken accountability.
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You've never taken accountability.
You've never, like, flat-out apologized.
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You're a clown.
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-You're sitting there, lie after lie.
-I never apologized?
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{\an8}You should relax, calling someone a clown
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{\an8}when you told him shit about me
in the pods the entire time,
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{\an8}saying that I'm a pick-me girl?
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You're the pick-me girl.
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-You're the pick-me!
-You're the pick-me! Don't start.
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You saw me crying with my heart broken.
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-[Jessica] I'll have my moment!
-You saw me crying with my heart broken.
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Are you happy with the way it turned out?
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{\an8}-Yes, I'm very happy.
-Just like you said you would.
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{\an8}-Okay, let's let it go.
-Like you said you would.
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-[Laura] You are a pick-me girl.
-[Nick] Okay!
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-You're not a girl's girl ever.
-Just let it go.
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[Nick] Jeramey continues to maintain
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that he was just talking with Sarah Ann
until 5:00 in the morning.
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I'm curious to hear what you all think.
Are you buying that story?
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-I got enough on my plate.
-[laughing]
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That's Jeramey.
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-[Nick] Trying to stay out of the way?
-I'mma just sit here.
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{\an8}I've never stayed up till 5:00 a.m.
just chatting.
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{\an8}[Sarah Ann] You saw me staying out
and getting walked out on by Matt.
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Is it that shocking that I was talking
till 5:00 in the morning?
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Everybody knows I can talk.
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It's not that shocking.
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-He was never invited into my house.
-[Vanessa] Sarah Ann. Sarah Ann.
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Did y'all kiss?
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No, absolutely not.
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-No.
-[Vanessa] Okay.
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[Nick] So, Laura,
what do you think hearing this?
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They continue to maintain
they just talked till 5:00 a.m.
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-What are your thoughts?
-I don't care what they did till 5:00 a.m.
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-I think they're both disgusting.
-[laughing]
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-[Vanessa] She said they're what?
-[Nick] Disgusting.
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When do you think you started to question
if Jeramey was really the one for you?
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[Laura] I mean, sure,
I started having my doubts.
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You know,
we started bumping heads a little,
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{\an8}but at no point was I thinking,
"I'm not gonna get married."
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{\an8}Jeramey and I literally every day
had a check-in with each other
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{\an8}on what our percentages are,
whether we're 80%,
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eight out of ten, 85% gonna get married.
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And it never dropped below that.
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So to go from spending
all day with my family
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and then to disrespecting me,
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staying out with another woman
till 6:00 a.m. the same night?
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He had told her that night
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when they stayed out together
that he was gonna break up with me.
405
00:17:44,188 --> 00:17:47,775
So he spent all day with my family,
all day telling me how much he loved me,
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kissed me goodbye as he went to the bar.
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00:17:49,943 --> 00:17:53,322
Went out that night,
met up with Sarah Ann, talked to her.
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00:17:53,405 --> 00:17:55,282
The conversation was so good
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that he decided he just had
to end his relationship right then.
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[Jeramey] I know what you're referring to.
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-[Laura] That's what your girlfriend said.
-Exactly.
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{\an8}[Nick] So, Sarah,
DMing Jeremy coming out of the pods
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was obviously somewhat
of a controversial move this season.
414
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We actually have some never-before-seen
footage of you and Laura
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speaking about it at the lake party.
Let's take a look at that clip.
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[Sarah Ann] I'm here
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to take everything, and I want you
to unload it on me and give me...
418
00:18:22,518 --> 00:18:26,396
No, seriously, I really do,
because I think you deserve that.
419
00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,607
I do wanna talk to you
about the message that I sent,
420
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because I know that that came across
so disrespectful to you.
421
00:18:32,903 --> 00:18:36,949
{\an8}And I am sorry if I hurt you in any way.
I really am.
422
00:18:37,032 --> 00:18:41,036
{\an8}Because I don't want you to think
that I came to ruin your relationship.
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00:18:41,745 --> 00:18:42,996
{\an8}I was just very...
424
00:18:43,664 --> 00:18:45,791
{\an8}I didn't get off my chest
what I needed to.
425
00:18:45,874 --> 00:18:48,001
{\an8}-Yeah.
-He obviously was saying things to me.
426
00:18:48,085 --> 00:18:50,629
{\an8}"I've only told you this"
and blasé blah and whatever.
427
00:18:50,712 --> 00:18:53,090
{\an8}Like, I needed closure,
but I didn't know how to do that.
428
00:18:53,173 --> 00:18:56,301
{\an8}And then I thought,
if they're not married just yet,
429
00:18:56,385 --> 00:18:57,761
should I just send the message now?
430
00:18:57,845 --> 00:19:00,806
I'm not gonna lie. I was in the real world
while you guys were there,
431
00:19:00,889 --> 00:19:03,267
and I was kind of heartbroken,
and I was just, like,
432
00:19:03,350 --> 00:19:06,061
"I'm gonna send it
and get it off my chest and move on."
433
00:19:06,145 --> 00:19:08,730
{\an8}That's really what the intent was,
and I hope you know that.
434
00:19:08,814 --> 00:19:11,692
{\an8}And the whole, like,
"If anything changes let me know."
435
00:19:11,775 --> 00:19:14,278
{\an8}Like, I was, like,
"You know, hey, if it does change,
436
00:19:14,361 --> 00:19:16,947
{\an8}I want you to know I would love
the opportunity to get to know you."
437
00:19:17,030 --> 00:19:18,866
{\an8}-I know you read the message.
-Yeah, yeah.
438
00:19:18,949 --> 00:19:21,785
{\an8}I didn't send the message going,
"I hope she doesn't see this."
439
00:19:21,869 --> 00:19:25,122
{\an8}I sent it thinking, "That's his fiancée.
They're probably both gonna react."
440
00:19:25,205 --> 00:19:27,916
{\an8}And I thought what I knew about you,
'cause I adore you.
441
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,377
{\an8}I was thinking,
"Laura is a grown, strong woman."
442
00:19:30,460 --> 00:19:31,503
{\an8}She's gonna be like,
443
00:19:31,587 --> 00:19:34,423
{\an8}"I'm in this situation, and that's valid
for her, but I still have him."
444
00:19:34,506 --> 00:19:36,717
{\an8}I thought about it differently,
and I shouldn't have.
445
00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,719
{\an8}And I assumed, and I'm sorry.
446
00:19:39,219 --> 00:19:42,431
{\an8}You're fine. No, I really, like,
appreciate you even bringing it up.
447
00:19:42,514 --> 00:19:44,266
Do I think the message was disrespectful?
448
00:19:44,349 --> 00:19:46,685
I do. I did. I was like,
as a woman-to-woman...
449
00:19:46,768 --> 00:19:50,272
But I was like, at the end of the day,
he made the commitment to me, not her.
450
00:19:50,355 --> 00:19:51,565
He got down on one knee.
451
00:19:51,648 --> 00:19:54,693
He said he chose me.
He was gonna protect my heart forever.
452
00:19:54,776 --> 00:19:55,652
Right.
453
00:19:55,736 --> 00:19:56,695
And that was it.
454
00:19:56,778 --> 00:19:58,739
And I remember asking him when he did.
I was like,
455
00:19:58,822 --> 00:20:00,908
"Is there a world where,
like, I turned you down
456
00:20:00,991 --> 00:20:03,493
or I went another road
to where you proposed to Sarah Ann?"
457
00:20:03,577 --> 00:20:05,495
And he said, "Absolutely not."
458
00:20:05,579 --> 00:20:09,708
But, babe, the way
that he's handled himself since then.
459
00:20:09,791 --> 00:20:11,335
{\an8}-I don't believe him.
-Really?
460
00:20:11,418 --> 00:20:13,045
{\an8}I don't believe a single word he says.
461
00:20:13,128 --> 00:20:17,925
{\an8}I think he was a literal
fucking clown robot in the pods.
462
00:20:18,008 --> 00:20:20,886
{\an8}And, like, who he said he was
and how he handled the situation
463
00:20:20,969 --> 00:20:24,223
{\an8}and how he conducts himself
as a man and a human being,
464
00:20:24,306 --> 00:20:28,101
{\an8}he hasn't shown me an ounce of that
since we've been out of the pods.
465
00:20:28,185 --> 00:20:31,480
{\an8}-Really? You think he's an all-talk...
-100%.
466
00:20:31,563 --> 00:20:33,065
{\an8}Once you're in the situation...
467
00:20:33,732 --> 00:20:35,734
{\an8}There is a part of me,
which I voiced to him.
468
00:20:35,817 --> 00:20:39,321
{\an8}There's a part of me that's like,
"Are you... confused still?"
469
00:20:39,404 --> 00:20:42,324
{\an8}He's, like, "No, no, no."
But I'm like, "Now I'm talking to you."
470
00:20:42,407 --> 00:20:44,117
{\an8}I'm, like, "Is he in all aspects?"
471
00:20:44,201 --> 00:20:45,160
{\an8}Just be careful, babe.
472
00:20:45,244 --> 00:20:49,706
{\an8}Like, the guy, as far as I'm concerned,
is not who he said he was.
473
00:20:49,790 --> 00:20:53,168
{\an8}To say that, like,
you love me as much as you do
474
00:20:53,252 --> 00:20:55,295
{\an8}and, like, I was it no matter what,
475
00:20:55,379 --> 00:20:59,341
{\an8}and to throw you fucking
under the bus continuously, like, it's...
476
00:20:59,424 --> 00:21:01,510
{\an8}-Yeah.
-The guy likes attention.
477
00:21:01,593 --> 00:21:03,470
{\an8}Since that night happened last Saturday,
478
00:21:03,553 --> 00:21:05,597
{\an8}all he's been fucking talking about
is his image
479
00:21:05,681 --> 00:21:07,266
{\an8}and how he looks worse than Jimmy.
480
00:21:07,349 --> 00:21:09,309
{\an8}So I don't know
why the fuck he came on this show,
481
00:21:09,393 --> 00:21:11,770
{\an8}but it sure as fuck wasn't
for a marriage or for fucking love.
482
00:21:11,853 --> 00:21:13,939
{\an8}-'Cause he's not ready for that.
-[Sarah Ann] Wow.
483
00:21:14,022 --> 00:21:17,150
{\an8}I am literally blindsided
484
00:21:17,234 --> 00:21:20,529
{\an8}at who this person said that he was.
485
00:21:20,612 --> 00:21:22,614
-Yeah.
-And, like, just watch yourself.
486
00:21:25,617 --> 00:21:27,494
[laughing]
487
00:21:27,577 --> 00:21:29,663
[laughs] I don't know
what the Jimmy context was about.
488
00:21:29,746 --> 00:21:32,791
-I appreciate the strays.
-[Jeramey laughs] Sorry about that, Jimmy.
489
00:21:32,874 --> 00:21:35,961
[Vanessa] So, you kind of
got dragged into that conversation.
490
00:21:36,044 --> 00:21:38,130
-[Jimmy] Yep.
-I'm sure that was a surprise for you.
491
00:21:38,213 --> 00:21:40,632
I'm dragged into every conversation,
it feels like.
492
00:21:40,716 --> 00:21:43,051
[Vanessa] What do you think
Laura meant by saying Jeramey
493
00:21:43,135 --> 00:21:45,470
was worried he'd look as bad as you?
494
00:21:45,554 --> 00:21:49,057
I remember me having
a really tough decision.
495
00:21:49,141 --> 00:21:53,395
I'm sitting here in the pods.
I'm like... for days, hours, it felt like.
496
00:21:53,895 --> 00:21:57,316
{\an8}I remember all the other guys, Ken,
everybody else picked me up that day.
497
00:21:57,399 --> 00:21:59,901
{\an8}Jeramey said, "At least I can sleep
knowing Jimmy's the villain."
498
00:22:01,028 --> 00:22:03,613
When I had a decision to make
and everybody else was picking me up,
499
00:22:03,697 --> 00:22:05,115
that was the words you left me with.
500
00:22:05,198 --> 00:22:07,617
-Okay.
-[Nick] That's true?
501
00:22:07,701 --> 00:22:10,704
I don't recall saying that,
but if I did say that, I was...
502
00:22:10,787 --> 00:22:11,788
[Jimmy] Was on your mind.
503
00:22:11,872 --> 00:22:13,957
You're still talking about me
in your relationships.
504
00:22:14,041 --> 00:22:15,042
That's how you viewed me.
505
00:22:15,125 --> 00:22:17,919
[Jeramey] I understand that,
and if I did say that to you,
506
00:22:18,003 --> 00:22:19,254
I'm sorry for saying that,
507
00:22:19,338 --> 00:22:21,882
'cause it was not meant
to be anything serious.
508
00:22:21,965 --> 00:22:23,925
-That's fair.
-Do you feel a little burned by that?
509
00:22:24,885 --> 00:22:26,303
[Jimmy] It is what it is.
510
00:22:26,386 --> 00:22:28,513
Jeramey is the least
of my concerns right now. [laughs]
511
00:22:28,597 --> 00:22:30,432
[laughing]
512
00:22:30,515 --> 00:22:31,725
I am sorry for saying that.
513
00:22:31,808 --> 00:22:35,354
-Well, AD, you had some choice words...
-[AD] A few.
514
00:22:35,437 --> 00:22:38,648
...for Sarah Ann at the lake party.
We all had a chance to see that.
515
00:22:38,732 --> 00:22:43,153
{\an8}What did you think of Sarah Ann's
apology to Laura just now?
516
00:22:43,987 --> 00:22:45,364
I mean... [sighs]
517
00:22:45,447 --> 00:22:47,324
I feel like it's null and void.
518
00:22:47,407 --> 00:22:48,909
I don't think it matters.
519
00:22:48,992 --> 00:22:51,370
You still pursued him.
You still went after him.
520
00:22:51,453 --> 00:22:53,372
So, sorry for what?
521
00:22:55,540 --> 00:22:56,625
Mm-hmm.
522
00:22:56,708 --> 00:23:00,962
[Vanessa] Sarah Ann, at that lake party
that we keep referencing,
523
00:23:01,046 --> 00:23:03,215
there was a bit of an icy reception
524
00:23:03,298 --> 00:23:05,842
from the women in this group.
525
00:23:05,926 --> 00:23:08,595
How does your relationship
with them stand today?
526
00:23:08,678 --> 00:23:10,806
I don't talk to any of the women.
527
00:23:11,848 --> 00:23:13,517
That's because she liked to unfollow us
528
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,686
and still follow our fiancés
at the lake day, which I thought strange.
529
00:23:16,770 --> 00:23:19,481
-[audience] Oh!
-[laughing]
530
00:23:19,564 --> 00:23:21,191
This is, like, a lot. [laughs]
531
00:23:21,274 --> 00:23:22,818
[Sarah Ann] You iced me out of a chat.
532
00:23:22,901 --> 00:23:24,694
[Chelsea 2] Nobody was mean to you.
533
00:23:24,778 --> 00:23:27,781
{\an8}[Sarah Ann] You guys iced me out
of a group chat.
534
00:23:27,864 --> 00:23:30,575
{\an8}-I removed you from the group chat.
-And you know what, Jess?
535
00:23:30,659 --> 00:23:33,620
{\an8}You saw me crying after he broke up
with me. I said, "I feel gaslighted."
536
00:23:33,703 --> 00:23:34,746
And I was heartbroken.
537
00:23:34,830 --> 00:23:37,582
And you watched me
bawl my eyes out, and you defended him.
538
00:23:37,666 --> 00:23:40,460
Not me. You were never
a girl's girl ever, honey.
539
00:23:40,544 --> 00:23:44,047
And you sat there and told me
that I'm not a girl's girl? You're not!
540
00:23:44,131 --> 00:23:47,634
-That's why you got removed.
-You watched me bawl my eyes out.
541
00:23:47,717 --> 00:23:50,804
Being the loudest in the room
does not make you the most noticeable.
542
00:23:50,887 --> 00:23:53,515
I'm not trying to be loud.
It's not about that. I'm always loud.
543
00:23:53,598 --> 00:23:55,767
[Jessica] So take your moment
and then I'll speak.
544
00:23:55,851 --> 00:23:56,726
[Nick exhales]
545
00:23:56,810 --> 00:24:00,397
[Jessica] No one could empathize
with your situation more than I could.
546
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,858
Honestly. Truly.
547
00:24:02,941 --> 00:24:04,276
And I think we can all agree,
548
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,904
everyone's feelings are valid,
and we're all entitled to having them.
549
00:24:08,447 --> 00:24:10,282
We just, as a group,
550
00:24:10,365 --> 00:24:15,537
we all thought both of you could have
handled the situation more respectfully.
551
00:24:15,620 --> 00:24:16,913
Absolutely.
552
00:24:16,997 --> 00:24:19,416
Simply just show some consideration.
553
00:24:19,499 --> 00:24:24,254
Just curious if any of you have seen
Jeramey in the subsequent time.
554
00:24:24,337 --> 00:24:25,964
[Vanessa, Nick] Since the show.
555
00:24:26,047 --> 00:24:28,633
-Oh, yeah. [laughing]
-[Vanessa] Okay.
556
00:24:28,717 --> 00:24:31,261
-Every time I see him, they're broken up.
-Yeah.
557
00:24:31,344 --> 00:24:33,847
-[audience] Ooh!
-[Nick] You said they're broken up?
558
00:24:33,930 --> 00:24:36,016
[Chelsea 2] They're broken up
every time I see 'em.
559
00:24:36,099 --> 00:24:39,144
-[Vanessa] When have you see them?
-[Jeramey] I've seen her one time.
560
00:24:39,227 --> 00:24:42,272
-I've seen you one time since...
-I've seen you twice.
561
00:24:42,355 --> 00:24:44,816
I asked if you were still with Sarah Ann,
and you said no.
562
00:24:44,900 --> 00:24:46,067
When... okay.
563
00:24:46,151 --> 00:24:48,195
We have gone through
564
00:24:48,278 --> 00:24:51,948
real life relationship stuff
since we have been together.
565
00:24:52,032 --> 00:24:53,492
Have we had our ons and offs?
566
00:24:53,575 --> 00:24:56,036
Yes, we've had our ons and offs.
We've had our ups and downs.
567
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,789
We've had times where we've contemplated
separating from each other.
568
00:24:59,873 --> 00:25:02,501
We've had times we've had to make up
in order to make that happen.
569
00:25:02,584 --> 00:25:05,754
And at the end of it,
we ended up moving in together.
570
00:25:06,755 --> 00:25:07,756
October.
571
00:25:07,839 --> 00:25:10,884
So there's some missing,
like, story in that part of it.
572
00:25:10,967 --> 00:25:15,222
Like, we've had our ups and downs,
but we did realize
573
00:25:15,305 --> 00:25:18,266
fighting through things continuously,
that we do love each other.
574
00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:21,102
We wanted to support each other
through this whole process itself.
575
00:25:21,186 --> 00:25:24,689
And since we've been there, I'm not
gonna say everything's been perfect,
576
00:25:24,773 --> 00:25:27,234
but we're still fighting
for that every day.
577
00:25:27,317 --> 00:25:29,444
Okay, well, Sarah Ann,
I have to ask you about
578
00:25:29,528 --> 00:25:31,363
something else
that happened fairly recently.
579
00:25:31,446 --> 00:25:34,074
You did a video, uh,
that appears to show you living
580
00:25:34,658 --> 00:25:35,742
in Jeramey's home.
581
00:25:35,825 --> 00:25:38,286
Even if you did that inadvertently,
people online
582
00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:41,540
have said you spoiled the storyline
for them. You gave away the ending,
583
00:25:42,374 --> 00:25:45,502
because you showed that you were clearly
with Jeramey in his home,
584
00:25:45,585 --> 00:25:47,587
which they've seen
previously in the season.
585
00:25:47,671 --> 00:25:50,549
When I posted the video, I actually...
586
00:25:51,466 --> 00:25:53,301
I guess to the magnitude of the internet,
587
00:25:53,385 --> 00:25:54,970
I never really could understand
588
00:25:55,053 --> 00:25:58,723
that people really do become the FBI
and pause things.
589
00:25:58,807 --> 00:26:00,100
-Oh, yeah.
-That's where I reside.
590
00:26:00,183 --> 00:26:02,894
Fans are sleuths.
They're, like, "I know that painting."
591
00:26:02,978 --> 00:26:04,729
When I posted,
it wasn't to spoil anything.
592
00:26:04,813 --> 00:26:06,731
That wasn't my intention at all.
593
00:26:06,815 --> 00:26:09,859
[laughing] Well, while we're talking about
things that have been put out online.
594
00:26:09,943 --> 00:26:11,653
I have to ask you about something else.
595
00:26:11,736 --> 00:26:14,990
You posted a video saying,
and I quote, "This is reality television."
596
00:26:15,073 --> 00:26:17,909
"It's meant to entertain you,
and that's exactly what we're doing."
597
00:26:17,993 --> 00:26:20,328
"We didn't miss with this one, baby,"
end quote.
598
00:26:20,412 --> 00:26:24,165
-[laughing]
-Let's look, so everyone has the context.
599
00:26:24,249 --> 00:26:27,168
-Oh, God.
-They're calling everybody out. I love it.
600
00:26:27,252 --> 00:26:31,423
This is a reality television.
It is meant to entertain you,
601
00:26:31,506 --> 00:26:33,300
and I think
that's exactly what we're doing.
602
00:26:33,383 --> 00:26:36,595
We didn't miss with this one, baby.
We didn't miss!
603
00:26:36,678 --> 00:26:40,307
So, be very, very clear
about this right now,
604
00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:41,975
was this all just for entertainment?
605
00:26:42,058 --> 00:26:47,689
I will say this, that I fell in love
with who Jeramey is as a person.
606
00:26:47,772 --> 00:26:48,898
We've had a strong connection
607
00:26:48,982 --> 00:26:51,401
since the very beginning
of this experiment, okay?
608
00:26:52,068 --> 00:26:56,781
And I don't think for a second
609
00:26:56,865 --> 00:26:58,992
that anything between us is fake.
610
00:26:59,075 --> 00:27:01,995
To throw out there so casually,
"This is entertainment. We didn't miss."
611
00:27:02,078 --> 00:27:03,747
That's where the disconnect is happening.
612
00:27:03,830 --> 00:27:05,498
The reason I put the video up is,
613
00:27:05,582 --> 00:27:08,335
I'm experiencing a ton of hate
on the internet,
614
00:27:08,418 --> 00:27:09,919
and I'm just a character, you know?
615
00:27:10,003 --> 00:27:14,507
There's never an interview of me talking
about how I feel about this man at all.
616
00:27:14,591 --> 00:27:17,677
And that's unfortunate because there was
a lot of heartfelt conversations.
617
00:27:18,261 --> 00:27:21,389
But I think that they didn't air all that
because he had picked Laura.
618
00:27:21,473 --> 00:27:23,350
Of course, of course, yeah, absolutely.
619
00:27:23,433 --> 00:27:28,188
Is it safe to say that the relationship
you are currently in is...
620
00:27:28,271 --> 00:27:29,147
Real.
621
00:27:30,148 --> 00:27:33,443
My real life, my 96-year-old grandmother
622
00:27:33,526 --> 00:27:35,779
had a flight to my wedding.
623
00:27:35,862 --> 00:27:39,240
And within days, he was with you.
624
00:27:39,324 --> 00:27:41,076
He met my whole family.
625
00:27:41,159 --> 00:27:44,204
Very few people in my entire life have met
the most important people to me.
626
00:27:44,287 --> 00:27:45,580
He held my dog.
627
00:27:45,664 --> 00:27:48,541
And then, literally, hours later,
628
00:27:48,625 --> 00:27:51,086
basically decided
that he had chosen you instead.
629
00:27:51,169 --> 00:27:53,672
That is why I'm coming in so hot.
630
00:27:53,755 --> 00:27:55,256
The fact that you guys have...
631
00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:57,550
First of all, Sarah Ann,
you've had a year to reach out.
632
00:27:57,634 --> 00:27:59,469
We had that little lake day party.
633
00:27:59,552 --> 00:28:02,514
Half that conversation
felt like you were asking me for advice
634
00:28:02,597 --> 00:28:04,265
on your new relationship with him,
635
00:28:04,349 --> 00:28:07,268
which I wanted absolutely
nothing to do with, obviously.
636
00:28:07,352 --> 00:28:10,480
I was hoping and praying for you guys
to come in here with some humility
637
00:28:10,563 --> 00:28:14,567
and come with an apology
and realize that this was my real life.
638
00:28:14,651 --> 00:28:17,445
I understand you guys are together now,
whatever, that's fine,
639
00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:19,197
but this was my real life, my real fiancé,
640
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,533
my real engagement, my real wedding
641
00:28:21,616 --> 00:28:24,369
that was made a mockery of
by the two of you.
642
00:28:24,452 --> 00:28:27,247
And then you come here with heat
towards me like I did something wrong.
643
00:28:27,330 --> 00:28:29,958
All we're trying to say is
there seems to be a disconnect
644
00:28:30,041 --> 00:28:32,293
between what's happening on the internet
and real life.
645
00:28:32,877 --> 00:28:34,504
-This is your real life.
-[Jeramey] Mm-hmm.
646
00:28:34,587 --> 00:28:37,590
This is your real life
and now your real babies and families.
647
00:28:37,674 --> 00:28:40,051
Even Laura over there, she's like,
"My 96-year-old grandma."
648
00:28:40,135 --> 00:28:43,138
"This was my real life
that was made a mockery of."
649
00:28:43,221 --> 00:28:45,098
The show didn't make a mockery of her.
650
00:28:45,724 --> 00:28:47,600
-This situation did.
-[Jeramey] Mm-hmm.
651
00:28:47,684 --> 00:28:50,353
So she's wanting to know,
as are people who see that.
652
00:28:51,271 --> 00:28:54,441
Do you see it as entertainment,
whereas this is their life?
653
00:28:54,524 --> 00:28:56,735
-This is their future, their love.
-[Sarah Ann] Yeah.
654
00:28:56,818 --> 00:28:58,945
[Vanessa] Do you think
you were trying to entertain?
655
00:28:59,612 --> 00:29:01,030
No, no.
656
00:29:01,114 --> 00:29:04,033
And I'll clarify that right now.
Probably taken out of context.
657
00:29:04,117 --> 00:29:08,747
That was, to be quite frank,
to put out entertainment of my own.
658
00:29:08,830 --> 00:29:10,248
Um, so...
659
00:29:10,331 --> 00:29:13,251
But no, I think the experiment does work.
660
00:29:13,334 --> 00:29:15,044
I mean, I'm sitting next to someone that,
661
00:29:15,128 --> 00:29:18,339
you know, I love with all my heart.
662
00:29:18,423 --> 00:29:21,926
And in my pursuit of love, I...
663
00:29:22,010 --> 00:29:23,386
hearts got broken.
664
00:29:23,470 --> 00:29:26,514
And I apologize for that.
That's not what I wanted, Laura.
665
00:29:26,598 --> 00:29:27,891
That's not what I wanted.
666
00:29:27,974 --> 00:29:29,017
I'm sorry.
667
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:32,437
I still maintain that nothing happened
between Sarah Ann and I that night.
668
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,564
It was wrong, should not have done it.
669
00:29:34,647 --> 00:29:39,986
That's not her fault.
That is... that is absolutely on me,
670
00:29:40,069 --> 00:29:41,946
and I'm sorry for that.
671
00:29:42,030 --> 00:29:43,406
To take some accountability,
672
00:29:43,490 --> 00:29:45,158
that's all I've been waiting for
for a year.
673
00:29:45,241 --> 00:29:46,743
We are happy you found each other.
674
00:29:46,826 --> 00:29:48,495
There could've been,
probably Laura agrees,
675
00:29:48,578 --> 00:29:50,747
a better way for all of this to unfold.
676
00:29:50,830 --> 00:29:53,750
Unfortunately, it did not.
You said your piece.
677
00:29:53,833 --> 00:29:54,709
Laura.
678
00:29:56,669 --> 00:29:57,962
Are you dating anyone right now?
679
00:29:58,046 --> 00:30:00,256
-[woman 15] Ooh.
-[laughing] Um...
680
00:30:00,340 --> 00:30:01,257
[all laughing]
681
00:30:01,341 --> 00:30:02,425
[Laura] Yes.
682
00:30:02,509 --> 00:30:05,887
-I am. [laughing]
-[all cheering]
683
00:30:09,933 --> 00:30:13,937
It's late where you are.
Thank you so much for joining us today.
684
00:30:14,020 --> 00:30:15,271
-We wish you the best.
-Wait!
685
00:30:15,355 --> 00:30:16,981
No. Yes, what?
686
00:30:17,065 --> 00:30:18,817
We're not gonna discuss "bean dip"?
687
00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:21,277
-[AD] Oh, please no.
-[Laura] Two seconds to clear it up.
688
00:30:21,361 --> 00:30:23,321
-[laughing]
-[Laura] AD, I love Clay.
689
00:30:23,404 --> 00:30:26,241
AD was my very close friend
in the lounge, in the pods.
690
00:30:26,324 --> 00:30:28,535
We were playful. I'm a goofball.
691
00:30:29,035 --> 00:30:31,621
Bean dip was a joke.
It was a playful thing.
692
00:30:31,704 --> 00:30:33,414
There was no disrespect meant behind it.
693
00:30:33,498 --> 00:30:37,126
I've apologized to her face-to-face,
on camera, off camera.
694
00:30:37,210 --> 00:30:38,837
I'll do it all day every day.
695
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,049
I apologize if there was
any disrespect insinuated in any way.
696
00:30:43,132 --> 00:30:44,968
It was not intended.
I love you guys so much.
697
00:30:45,051 --> 00:30:48,054
It was a joke that was just taken
completely out of context, and I'm sorry.
698
00:30:48,137 --> 00:30:51,599
I'm sorry for throwing that out
into the world.
699
00:30:51,683 --> 00:30:53,059
Now that's a very Googled term
700
00:30:53,142 --> 00:30:55,562
that should've never been Googled
to begin with.
701
00:30:55,645 --> 00:30:57,313
-[AD laughing]
-So I'm sorry.
702
00:30:57,397 --> 00:30:59,607
-[Vanessa] Okay.
-All right, moving on, huh?
703
00:30:59,691 --> 00:31:01,067
Whoo! I'm hot.
704
00:31:01,150 --> 00:31:02,902
Guys, one of the biggest scandals to break
705
00:31:02,986 --> 00:31:05,488
since this season premiered
involves our next guest.
706
00:31:05,572 --> 00:31:08,575
So, everyone, please join me in welcoming
the mullet-man himself.
707
00:31:09,576 --> 00:31:10,577
Trevor.
708
00:31:12,704 --> 00:31:15,665
[dance music playing]
709
00:31:15,748 --> 00:31:17,250
[chattering]
710
00:31:17,917 --> 00:31:19,335
[Nick] The mullet's back, baby.
711
00:31:19,919 --> 00:31:22,630
-[Johnny] Damn, Trev!
-[Trevor] Oh. What's up?
712
00:31:23,715 --> 00:31:26,301
{\an8}[Vanessa] We're stacking these couches.
You have enough room?
713
00:31:26,384 --> 00:31:28,595
{\an8}-No.
-[laughing]
714
00:31:28,678 --> 00:31:31,306
{\an8}-How's it going, buddy?
-[Vanessa] We're gonna get right into it.
715
00:31:31,389 --> 00:31:32,891
Trevor, hi.
716
00:31:32,974 --> 00:31:36,311
When the season premiered,
people were posting,
717
00:31:36,394 --> 00:31:38,438
"Protect Trevor at all costs."
718
00:31:38,521 --> 00:31:42,567
And "if anyone hurts Trevor,
they're dead to me."
719
00:31:43,318 --> 00:31:47,238
Then something came out
that shocked everyone.
720
00:31:48,364 --> 00:31:53,202
Screenshots came out on the internet
which were allegedly between you, Trevor,
721
00:31:53,286 --> 00:31:56,122
and the girlfriend
that you had at the same time
722
00:31:56,205 --> 00:31:59,042
that you were participating
in this experiment.
723
00:31:59,626 --> 00:32:03,338
[Nick] Yes, in fact, you were texting her
as you were traveling here
724
00:32:03,421 --> 00:32:05,381
and as soon as you left the pods.
725
00:32:05,465 --> 00:32:08,384
We actually have the texts.
So let's go ahead and take a look.
726
00:32:08,468 --> 00:32:09,719
[woman 16] Show the receipts.
727
00:32:09,802 --> 00:32:11,679
-[Nick] "I love you so much, honey."
-[all] Ooh!
728
00:32:11,763 --> 00:32:15,516
[Nick] "I'm excited for it,
but more excited to get back to you after
729
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,018
and start our life together."
730
00:32:17,101 --> 00:32:19,187
[Vanessa] She responded with,
"Did you land?"
731
00:32:19,270 --> 00:32:21,648
[Nick] Trevor responded, "Just did."
732
00:32:22,565 --> 00:32:25,985
Then, skipping to when you left the pods,
you again wrote,
733
00:32:26,861 --> 00:32:28,404
"Do you still love me?"
734
00:32:28,988 --> 00:32:32,450
[Vanessa] She says, "Pumpkin, I'm crying."
735
00:32:32,533 --> 00:32:34,702
[Nick] Trevor then says,
"Can I call you in 30 minutes?"
736
00:32:34,786 --> 00:32:37,080
[Vanessa] She said,
"I missed you so much."
737
00:32:37,163 --> 00:32:40,249
Trevor wrote, "I love you
more than anything in this world."
738
00:32:40,333 --> 00:32:42,794
-"And I'm going to marry you."
-[woman 17] Oh!
739
00:32:42,877 --> 00:32:45,296
[Vanessa] She says,
"Yes. Call me. I can't wait."
740
00:32:45,964 --> 00:32:48,383
[Nick] Trevor says, "I hope you know
how much I love you
741
00:32:48,466 --> 00:32:52,845
and had to pretend that this
wasn't real life to say anything I said."
742
00:32:52,929 --> 00:32:54,931
[Vanessa] She responds with,
"It's okay, pumpkin."
743
00:32:56,849 --> 00:32:58,851
[Nick] Now, Trevor, I'd like to hear
744
00:32:59,852 --> 00:33:01,145
what you have to say.
745
00:33:01,229 --> 00:33:03,856
-Yeah, me too. [laughing]
-[Nick] Certainly a lot to unpack there.
746
00:33:04,857 --> 00:33:08,194
{\an8}I think not only Vanessa and I,
but everyone on this stage,
747
00:33:08,277 --> 00:33:11,114
{\an8}would love to hear
what you have to say about that.
748
00:33:13,783 --> 00:33:15,243
Um...
749
00:33:20,748 --> 00:33:22,709
-Nah, say it with your chest.
-[laughing]
750
00:33:22,792 --> 00:33:24,877
-[AD] Don't get quiet now.
-[Micah] Oh!
751
00:33:24,961 --> 00:33:26,462
[AD] Don't get quiet now.
752
00:33:28,798 --> 00:33:30,383
[laughing]
753
00:33:36,514 --> 00:33:39,934
I... I had a whole thing planned to say.
754
00:33:44,313 --> 00:33:45,481
I don't know.
755
00:33:48,234 --> 00:33:49,152
Um...
756
00:33:50,862 --> 00:33:51,738
Yeah.
757
00:33:52,947 --> 00:33:53,823
So...
758
00:33:57,660 --> 00:33:59,704
I guess I'll start by saying that
759
00:33:59,787 --> 00:34:01,914
I was not dating her...
760
00:34:02,623 --> 00:34:05,585
"dating" her, technically. Like,
I never said, "Will you be my girlfriend?"
761
00:34:05,668 --> 00:34:08,588
before the show started.
762
00:34:09,172 --> 00:34:11,215
But there definitely was...
763
00:34:11,299 --> 00:34:14,677
Like, obviously,
we were close, but she knew...
764
00:34:15,428 --> 00:34:17,930
She was the typical girl
I'd go for in real life.
765
00:34:19,432 --> 00:34:22,977
And I told her before,
like, "I want to go on this
766
00:34:23,061 --> 00:34:24,979
to try to experiment with something else."
767
00:34:26,564 --> 00:34:28,399
Like, there's no justifying that.
768
00:34:28,483 --> 00:34:30,777
That sounds fucking horrible
what I just said, and that...
769
00:34:31,444 --> 00:34:33,529
that is horrible.
770
00:34:34,072 --> 00:34:36,074
But I...
771
00:34:36,824 --> 00:34:37,909
wanted to do this.
772
00:34:37,992 --> 00:34:41,079
Like, I wanted to meet somebody
that I wouldn't go for in real life.
773
00:34:41,162 --> 00:34:42,789
It is fucked up that I was...
774
00:34:43,539 --> 00:34:47,502
acted like that with someone else
right before going on and right after,
775
00:34:47,585 --> 00:34:49,587
but I went in with the mindset of, like,
776
00:34:50,254 --> 00:34:53,716
I will find someone. Like, I wanna try it.
777
00:34:57,136 --> 00:35:00,348
I don't fucking know.
There isn't an answer for that.
778
00:35:00,431 --> 00:35:02,725
-[Nick] You're saying "I love you..."
-Yes.
779
00:35:02,809 --> 00:35:05,186
...to this woman
as you're entering the experiment,
780
00:35:05,269 --> 00:35:06,687
as you're entering the pods.
781
00:35:06,771 --> 00:35:10,441
-Yes.
-To say, "She wasn't my girlfriend..."
782
00:35:10,525 --> 00:35:13,319
You don't say "I love you"
to someone you don't care about.
783
00:35:13,402 --> 00:35:15,071
[Trevor] I mean, I did care about her.
784
00:35:15,154 --> 00:35:17,156
[Nick] You're going with
you didn't love her?
785
00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:18,574
No, no, no, I did.
786
00:35:18,658 --> 00:35:23,538
So, I'm saying, how unfair is it
to everyone on the stage...
787
00:35:23,621 --> 00:35:25,123
And I'll call out Chelsea directly
788
00:35:25,206 --> 00:35:29,627
{\an8}because there was a moment there
where she easily could have said,
789
00:35:29,710 --> 00:35:32,547
"Trevor, you are the one for me.
You're my life partner."
790
00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:35,341
Unbeknownst to her,
you have someone on the outside.
791
00:35:35,424 --> 00:35:36,843
I would have been with Chelsea.
792
00:35:36,926 --> 00:35:39,220
I told her that. She knew that.
793
00:35:39,303 --> 00:35:42,723
Like, she... her and I
were so fucking toxic.
794
00:35:42,807 --> 00:35:44,725
So toxic that
after you get out of the pods,
795
00:35:44,809 --> 00:35:46,018
you said, "Going to marry you"?
796
00:35:46,102 --> 00:35:47,353
Yes, yes!
797
00:35:47,436 --> 00:35:49,772
I'm toxic as well. I admit that.
798
00:35:49,856 --> 00:35:53,776
Like, I need a lot of, like, therapy.
799
00:35:53,860 --> 00:35:56,487
I went in with this of, like,
800
00:35:57,196 --> 00:35:59,657
I know I'm toxic.
I know I need to fucking change.
801
00:35:59,740 --> 00:36:00,575
I...
802
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:04,370
-I don't know what you want me to say.
-Do you guys wanna say anything?
803
00:36:05,037 --> 00:36:05,955
[woman 18] Oh.
804
00:36:06,038 --> 00:36:07,623
[laughing]
805
00:36:07,707 --> 00:36:09,834
-I'll stay out of it, Pumpkin.
-[laughing]
806
00:36:09,917 --> 00:36:13,671
-Not "Pumpkin."
-Jimmy, your time's coming. Don't worry.
807
00:36:13,754 --> 00:36:16,632
I definitely am not here
to grill you by any means.
808
00:36:16,716 --> 00:36:18,009
It didn't work out for us.
809
00:36:18,092 --> 00:36:21,679
And I had just this intuition
of why I shouldn't have picked you.
810
00:36:21,762 --> 00:36:24,891
I couldn't explain it, and now I can.
811
00:36:26,934 --> 00:36:29,437
[Brittany] I think
it's just disrespectful.
812
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:34,567
{\an8}Because we all put ten toes down
into this experience.
813
00:36:34,650 --> 00:36:37,862
For you to also be playing
the other woman,
814
00:36:37,945 --> 00:36:39,363
that's also disrespectful.
815
00:36:39,447 --> 00:36:40,448
[Chelsea 2] Mm-hmm.
816
00:36:40,531 --> 00:36:42,992
[Brittany] A little concerning
that she was okay with it.
817
00:36:43,075 --> 00:36:44,452
[Trevor] I agree.
818
00:36:45,077 --> 00:36:48,623
Um, but, yeah,
it's disrespectful to them as well.
819
00:36:48,706 --> 00:36:52,001
I mean, it's the same thing that
you were asking Sarah Ann earlier.
820
00:36:52,084 --> 00:36:56,672
What about us that are going in this
with the right intentions,
821
00:36:56,756 --> 00:36:57,965
doing the right thing.
822
00:36:58,049 --> 00:36:59,508
[Chelsea 2] What if I did choose you?
823
00:37:00,551 --> 00:37:03,179
Would she be lingering around, just like...
824
00:37:03,262 --> 00:37:06,974
No, I told her that up front. I was like,
"You and I are toxic together."
825
00:37:07,058 --> 00:37:09,685
"If I meet someone in here,
then I'm staying with someone in here."
826
00:37:09,769 --> 00:37:13,898
-You told her you were gonna marry her.
-[Trevor] Yeah, when I left, 'cause...
827
00:37:13,981 --> 00:37:15,733
When I left,
I was a fucking emotional wreck.
828
00:37:15,816 --> 00:37:19,320
Johnny, you were there when I walked
out of the pods that day. Was I not...
829
00:37:19,904 --> 00:37:23,199
-It was really bad. It was really bad.
-Like, way worse than is shown.
830
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,495
Like, I did get into the experiment
when I got here.
831
00:37:27,578 --> 00:37:31,415
Johnny was in the lounge and saw me,
and I know you guys trust Johnny.
832
00:37:31,499 --> 00:37:33,334
[laughing]
833
00:37:33,417 --> 00:37:34,502
[Brittany] King Johnny.
834
00:37:35,169 --> 00:37:39,090
Were you more hurt of leaving Chelsea
or because you were leaving the show?
835
00:37:40,341 --> 00:37:44,428
I didn't care about leaving the show.
Can I, like, just leave right now?
836
00:37:44,512 --> 00:37:48,307
-Go ahead.
-Chelsea has been raked over the coals.
837
00:37:48,391 --> 00:37:49,725
No, and I will...
838
00:37:49,809 --> 00:37:51,435
[Jessica] You could've come to her rescue.
839
00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:54,730
Even I have asked
for a cease-fire on Jimmy.
840
00:37:54,814 --> 00:37:58,067
And at any point,
you could have just been...
841
00:37:58,150 --> 00:38:00,319
I have made comments helping Chelsea.
842
00:38:00,403 --> 00:38:05,157
Did you come here
to forward your career and be on TV?
843
00:38:05,241 --> 00:38:07,201
[Trevor] No, what career? I mean...
844
00:38:07,285 --> 00:38:08,703
[Vanessa] I have no idea.
845
00:38:10,413 --> 00:38:12,290
I did come here for
846
00:38:13,874 --> 00:38:15,459
good and bad reasons.
847
00:38:15,543 --> 00:38:17,962
I can't take back that I went on the show.
848
00:38:18,045 --> 00:38:21,674
I'm glad I went on the show
'cause it taught me a lot about myself.
849
00:38:21,757 --> 00:38:25,428
And, Chelsea, like,
I was myself in those pods.
850
00:38:26,429 --> 00:38:27,722
I hope you know that.
851
00:38:27,805 --> 00:38:31,350
And any clarity you need off camera,
like, I will give to you,
852
00:38:31,434 --> 00:38:34,228
You're the only person
that I owe any response to.
853
00:38:34,312 --> 00:38:36,856
Like, I don't give a fuck
about people online.
854
00:38:36,939 --> 00:38:40,735
I don't need to respond to them, but you,
if you need that, I will give it to you.
855
00:38:40,818 --> 00:38:41,694
I appreciate you.
856
00:38:42,611 --> 00:38:44,530
Sarah Ann, we've talked
about your suggestion
857
00:38:44,613 --> 00:38:46,907
that this is just done for entertainment.
858
00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:51,162
There's been suggestions that maybe
you were here for the wrong reasons.
859
00:38:51,245 --> 00:38:53,205
Guys, I wanna say participating
in Love Is Blind,
860
00:38:53,289 --> 00:38:55,416
it's really
a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
861
00:38:55,499 --> 00:38:58,252
Vanessa and I believed in it
from season one. You can see the results.
862
00:38:58,336 --> 00:39:00,504
Look around this room.
Look at this couch right here.
863
00:39:01,672 --> 00:39:05,259
We do not want people to come here
motivated by fame.
864
00:39:05,343 --> 00:39:06,886
That's not what this is about.
865
00:39:06,969 --> 00:39:09,555
It's not fair to the audience,
866
00:39:09,638 --> 00:39:12,767
and most importantly,
it's not fair to the people right here,
867
00:39:12,850 --> 00:39:14,727
the people who've invested genuinely
868
00:39:14,810 --> 00:39:17,355
in what this thing is truly,
truly all about.
869
00:39:17,438 --> 00:39:19,315
It's just wrong. It really is.
870
00:39:19,982 --> 00:39:23,861
For people who come here with ulterior
motives, we've gotta call you out for it.
871
00:39:23,944 --> 00:39:26,530
So, Trevor, I know you asked to leave.
You can leave now, man.
872
00:39:27,782 --> 00:39:28,783
[woman 19] Oh, my God.
873
00:39:29,575 --> 00:39:30,618
[Trevor exhales]
874
00:39:32,828 --> 00:39:35,498
[Vanessa] On that note,
I'm gonna change the subject.
875
00:39:35,581 --> 00:39:37,416
Oh, my gosh!
We have a sign in the audience!
876
00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:40,795
-"AD All Day." Yes!
-[cheering]
877
00:39:45,174 --> 00:39:47,718
A couple that we were really rooting for.
878
00:39:47,802 --> 00:39:49,595
-[AD sighs]
-AD and Clay.
879
00:39:49,678 --> 00:39:52,640
We wanna know what happened
880
00:39:53,224 --> 00:39:55,976
after the weeks following the wedding.
881
00:39:56,519 --> 00:39:59,021
{\an8}A lot of weeks went by before we spoke.
882
00:39:59,105 --> 00:40:02,566
{\an8}Um, I just wasn't
in a place to speak to him.
883
00:40:02,650 --> 00:40:04,193
I really had nothing to say.
884
00:40:04,276 --> 00:40:08,489
{\an8}Yeah, I just thought from a respect level,
that I shouldn't reach out automatically.
885
00:40:08,572 --> 00:40:10,741
I just think when you go through
a heartbreak like that,
886
00:40:10,825 --> 00:40:14,370
it's just sometimes hard to,
you know, look each other in the face.
887
00:40:14,453 --> 00:40:18,207
It's just been a little bit
of a rough ride after the, uh, altar.
888
00:40:18,916 --> 00:40:20,876
So who contacted
who first to get together?
889
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,044
He called me, duh.
890
00:40:22,128 --> 00:40:24,338
-[laughing]
-He called me.
891
00:40:24,422 --> 00:40:28,217
Yeah, I got a couple, like, messages
that wasn't responded to, but yeah.
892
00:40:29,009 --> 00:40:33,973
What was it like for the two of you
to watch the wedding back?
893
00:40:34,557 --> 00:40:36,016
-That was tough.
-[Vanessa] Hmm.
894
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:37,518
That was really tough.
895
00:40:37,601 --> 00:40:41,105
I mean, it's not normal to watch yourself
have a meltdown.
896
00:40:41,188 --> 00:40:45,151
And I mean, the love
that I had for this man...
897
00:40:46,444 --> 00:40:48,154
[shudders] Hmm.
898
00:40:49,196 --> 00:40:50,865
It was tough to watch
899
00:40:50,948 --> 00:40:54,452
because it was
such a lead up for such a crazy letdown.
900
00:40:54,535 --> 00:40:55,911
This process is unique.
901
00:40:55,995 --> 00:41:00,040
You know, you get a chance
to essentially watch yourself, you know,
902
00:41:00,124 --> 00:41:02,626
like a fly on the wall to your own life.
903
00:41:02,710 --> 00:41:05,045
And, you know,
just kind of seeing everything,
904
00:41:05,129 --> 00:41:07,506
and it was really emotional
for me to watch.
905
00:41:07,590 --> 00:41:10,050
You know, seeing AD interact
on the other lounge
906
00:41:10,134 --> 00:41:11,427
and how excited she was,
907
00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:14,513
like, to me watching it,
I just felt like the biggest dick.
908
00:41:14,597 --> 00:41:18,100
I felt like,
you know, I disrespected her family,
909
00:41:18,184 --> 00:41:22,646
and I apologized to, you know,
your mom and your sisters,
910
00:41:22,730 --> 00:41:24,857
because they all met me with grace.
911
00:41:24,940 --> 00:41:26,901
And, like, even to hear that, you know,
912
00:41:27,610 --> 00:41:30,196
that I disrespected them,
that I wasted their time.
913
00:41:30,279 --> 00:41:31,780
You know, that definitely hurt.
914
00:41:32,823 --> 00:41:35,701
[Nick] This is a tough question to ask.
915
00:41:35,784 --> 00:41:38,037
And hindsight is always 20/20.
916
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,622
But looking back,
917
00:41:40,873 --> 00:41:42,833
would you have done things differently?
918
00:41:43,584 --> 00:41:45,211
You know, Nick, that's a good question.
919
00:41:45,294 --> 00:41:48,589
I think throughout this whole process,
one of the biggest things I struggled with
920
00:41:48,672 --> 00:41:50,174
was getting out of my own way.
921
00:41:50,257 --> 00:41:53,886
I kind of battle with, like, the morality
of, like, am I a good person?
922
00:41:53,969 --> 00:41:57,806
Am I a bad person?
And AD always, like, navigated me.
923
00:41:57,890 --> 00:42:00,809
She always made sure she uplifted me
and made me feel like the best person.
924
00:42:00,893 --> 00:42:02,645
But I couldn't get out of my own way.
925
00:42:02,728 --> 00:42:07,816
I kept looking at myself like, "I'm not
the guy that deserves love and marriage."
926
00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:10,194
And, you know,
AD's really seen me through.
927
00:42:10,277 --> 00:42:12,279
She's honestly the love of my life.
928
00:42:12,363 --> 00:42:14,657
And I will tell you, honestly,
I did make a mistake,
929
00:42:14,740 --> 00:42:16,951
you know, going to the altar
and saying no.
930
00:42:17,034 --> 00:42:18,577
But, you know, it's one of those things
931
00:42:18,661 --> 00:42:21,121
that you just kind of go through
and live through, you know.
932
00:42:21,205 --> 00:42:24,458
And I'm humbled
to watch myself and see that
933
00:42:24,542 --> 00:42:26,418
there was different things
that I didn't do well.
934
00:42:26,502 --> 00:42:28,587
And you know,
I'm definitely taking the work.
935
00:42:28,671 --> 00:42:32,758
I've been doing therapy
to be a better person, you know.
936
00:42:32,841 --> 00:42:34,718
Because I do think that, you know,
937
00:42:34,802 --> 00:42:36,887
it was a big letdown, and I apologize.
938
00:42:36,971 --> 00:42:39,682
I love you. You are the love of my life,
and it was a mistake.
939
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:44,395
[Vanessa] AD, that was
like a roller coaster of emotions.
940
00:42:44,478 --> 00:42:47,940
I'm watching you go from, like,
"oh, here we go" to "oh, my goodness."
941
00:42:48,023 --> 00:42:51,777
What are you feeling hearing
Clay say all of these things?
942
00:42:51,860 --> 00:42:53,904
It just takes me right back to
943
00:42:54,572 --> 00:42:56,740
day one of falling for him
944
00:42:56,824 --> 00:43:01,120
and knowing that
I could be everything that he needed
945
00:43:01,662 --> 00:43:05,124
and knowing that, like, there's
nothing more that I could have done.
946
00:43:05,207 --> 00:43:07,835
And then to hear him say
it was a mistake is, like,
947
00:43:09,169 --> 00:43:10,963
what am I supposed to do
with that information?
948
00:43:11,046 --> 00:43:12,131
[Vanessa] Mm-hmm.
949
00:43:13,090 --> 00:43:15,217
Do you think
you would ever date him again?
950
00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:22,766
[all laughing]
951
00:43:24,393 --> 00:43:27,062
-Next question.
-[laughing]
952
00:43:27,146 --> 00:43:29,523
[Vanessa] Clay, would you
ever date her again?
953
00:43:29,607 --> 00:43:32,026
-1,000%.
-[woman 20] Oh, my gosh.
954
00:43:32,109 --> 00:43:34,069
-[AD] Nuh-uh!
-[laughing]
955
00:43:34,153 --> 00:43:36,697
[AD exclaims]
956
00:43:36,780 --> 00:43:38,365
-You had your chance.
-[Clay] I did.
957
00:43:38,449 --> 00:43:41,201
-I did.
-You had your chance. I was wide...
958
00:43:41,285 --> 00:43:43,329
There's nothing that
I wouldn't have given you.
959
00:43:43,412 --> 00:43:45,289
And there's nothing
I wouldn't have done for you.
960
00:43:45,372 --> 00:43:47,207
And I feel like, low-key,
961
00:43:47,291 --> 00:43:49,084
respectfully, you played
in my fucking face.
962
00:43:49,668 --> 00:43:52,421
You played in my face.
You knew you didn't wanna get married.
963
00:43:52,504 --> 00:43:54,798
-That's not true.
-Then why are we not married?
964
00:43:54,882 --> 00:43:55,841
[woman 21] Ooh.
965
00:43:55,924 --> 00:43:59,136
You know, when it was happening,
I wanted to say yes.
966
00:43:59,219 --> 00:44:01,430
I saw you walk across on the altar.
967
00:44:02,389 --> 00:44:04,433
And I was, like, "This is my wife."
968
00:44:05,434 --> 00:44:07,645
As it was going on, I'm looking at you.
969
00:44:07,728 --> 00:44:11,357
I'm like, "I don't know if I could show up
for you every single day." It's just...
970
00:44:11,857 --> 00:44:15,611
I'm sure people who experience this,
that's been through the experiment,
971
00:44:15,694 --> 00:44:17,821
you know, days are like weeks.
972
00:44:17,905 --> 00:44:20,949
Moments and that time at the altar,
when she walked down the altar,
973
00:44:21,033 --> 00:44:22,284
I swear, it was like three days.
974
00:44:22,368 --> 00:44:24,787
I'm just going back and forth
of, like, watching her.
975
00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:25,913
"She's so beautiful."
976
00:44:25,996 --> 00:44:28,290
"Clay, you know who you are." "But AD."
977
00:44:28,374 --> 00:44:30,417
It's a lot of things
that you're battling with.
978
00:44:30,501 --> 00:44:32,586
And for me, Nick, I would say that
979
00:44:32,670 --> 00:44:36,006
I didn't put the work in
to understand love
980
00:44:36,090 --> 00:44:37,383
before I got in the process.
981
00:44:37,466 --> 00:44:41,261
And I believe I almost
was getting diagnosed on camera
982
00:44:41,345 --> 00:44:44,431
as, like, this red flag or this guy
who has,
983
00:44:44,515 --> 00:44:46,850
you know, dad issues
and something like that.
984
00:44:46,934 --> 00:44:50,896
But I received it, you know. At the end
of the day, I didn't do the process right.
985
00:44:50,979 --> 00:44:52,439
I disrespected AD. I love her.
986
00:44:52,523 --> 00:44:55,651
And it hurts that
you don't even think that, you know, so...
987
00:44:56,235 --> 00:44:57,361
-[Vanessa] Clay.
-Yeah.
988
00:44:58,487 --> 00:45:00,781
Do you think you're ready now?
It's been a year.
989
00:45:01,490 --> 00:45:05,285
Yeah, I think I put the work in.
I wasn't bullshitting.
990
00:45:05,369 --> 00:45:08,789
Uh, I went to therapy.
I tried different therapists out, even.
991
00:45:08,872 --> 00:45:10,833
You know, trying to see
what worked for me.
992
00:45:11,417 --> 00:45:14,253
You know, I wanna be a good guy.
I wanna be the best version I can be.
993
00:45:14,336 --> 00:45:17,464
-It sucks that I wasn't like that for you.
-You are a good guy.
994
00:45:17,548 --> 00:45:19,633
I swear. It really wasn't intentional.
995
00:45:19,717 --> 00:45:21,593
Like, I'm watching it back,
996
00:45:21,677 --> 00:45:24,763
and it broke my heart
to break your heart, honestly.
997
00:45:24,847 --> 00:45:27,474
-And that was not my intention.
-[exhales]
998
00:45:28,058 --> 00:45:31,103
Um, it happened, and I'll take
everything that comes with it.
999
00:45:31,186 --> 00:45:32,813
I came out a different man,
1000
00:45:32,896 --> 00:45:35,441
and I have to credit that to AD.
1001
00:45:35,524 --> 00:45:38,527
When someone changes your life,
you just don't turn your back on them.
1002
00:45:38,610 --> 00:45:40,946
And, you know,
that's just me being here for her.
1003
00:45:41,029 --> 00:45:44,283
-I applaud you for growth.
-Yeah.
1004
00:45:44,366 --> 00:45:46,452
I applaud you as a man
for being willing to say,
1005
00:45:46,535 --> 00:45:49,663
"I need to take a look at myself,
and I need therapy."
1006
00:45:49,747 --> 00:45:50,706
"I wanna seek that out."
1007
00:45:50,789 --> 00:45:53,000
"I wanna be a better person
for myself and for others."
1008
00:45:53,083 --> 00:45:55,461
That takes a lot of courage
to, A, one, do.
1009
00:45:55,544 --> 00:45:57,963
-And B, say on national television.
-[Vanessa] Follow through.
1010
00:45:58,046 --> 00:46:00,883
[Nick] So I applaud you
for that, man, really.
1011
00:46:08,098 --> 00:46:11,602
It was hard watching because there were
so many layers to your love story.
1012
00:46:11,685 --> 00:46:15,564
[Nick] Mm. I'm curious, AD,
how did you feel when you watched it back,
1013
00:46:15,647 --> 00:46:20,152
watching that conversation
between Clay's mom and his dad?
1014
00:46:21,403 --> 00:46:23,363
Um, I thought in watching it with Vanessa,
1015
00:46:23,447 --> 00:46:26,658
that was a pretty heavy moment,
a pretty insightful moment.
1016
00:46:27,326 --> 00:46:31,163
Did it give you any more understanding
as to why things were the way they were?
1017
00:46:31,246 --> 00:46:33,957
I think that conversation really, um,
1018
00:46:34,041 --> 00:46:35,292
closed the circle for me.
1019
00:46:35,375 --> 00:46:38,337
There were a lot of missing pieces
that I just could not quite understand,
1020
00:46:38,420 --> 00:46:41,924
and I knew that Clay's parents
had gone through their trials.
1021
00:46:42,007 --> 00:46:44,968
And hearing that conversation
really showed me
1022
00:46:45,052 --> 00:46:48,514
that he was battling things that I just...
that there's nothing I could have done
1023
00:46:48,597 --> 00:46:51,391
to take that stress from him.
1024
00:46:51,475 --> 00:46:53,268
Hearing that conversation,
I was, like, "Wow."
1025
00:46:53,352 --> 00:46:55,562
Like, "That was deep."
1026
00:46:55,646 --> 00:47:00,192
And I didn't wanna, respectfully,
be Clay's mom in the long run.
1027
00:47:00,275 --> 00:47:03,570
-I didn't want that to be my story.
-[Vanessa] Well, yeah.
1028
00:47:04,571 --> 00:47:06,907
[Nick] Clay, how was that conversation
for you to watch?
1029
00:47:07,491 --> 00:47:09,117
Between your mom and your dad?
1030
00:47:09,201 --> 00:47:11,662
Uh, it was tough, I would say, you know.
1031
00:47:12,204 --> 00:47:17,084
We're still going through our family
and... and searching for healing, so...
1032
00:47:17,751 --> 00:47:20,170
I think a lot of Black men
could resonate with this
1033
00:47:20,254 --> 00:47:22,130
in terms of just having broken households.
1034
00:47:22,214 --> 00:47:26,969
But one thing about my parents is that
they never made us feel any type of way.
1035
00:47:27,052 --> 00:47:29,680
They did their best to raise us,
and that's their story.
1036
00:47:29,763 --> 00:47:31,139
And AD's mom said it best.
1037
00:47:31,223 --> 00:47:33,851
She said that I can't
be taking on my parents' stuff.
1038
00:47:33,934 --> 00:47:35,102
I gotta do what's good for me.
1039
00:47:35,185 --> 00:47:37,646
And that's the reason why I took
that approach to go to therapy,
1040
00:47:37,729 --> 00:47:41,775
so I could stop, you know, wearing
the baggage that my parents left me
1041
00:47:41,859 --> 00:47:43,902
and, you know, go my own way.
1042
00:47:43,986 --> 00:47:45,654
[Nick] You mentioned the healing.
1043
00:47:46,446 --> 00:47:48,031
Part of that healing I think was...
1044
00:47:48,115 --> 00:47:51,827
I remember your mom tasking
your father with apologizing to you
1045
00:47:51,910 --> 00:47:54,746
for some of the memories
and the experiences you had as a youth
1046
00:47:54,830 --> 00:47:57,541
and how it's, maybe, shaped your path.
1047
00:47:57,624 --> 00:47:59,251
-Yeah.
-[Nick] Has that apology happened?
1048
00:47:59,334 --> 00:48:02,254
Have you had that chance
to have that moment with your father?
1049
00:48:03,005 --> 00:48:04,423
It's, uh, it's not...
1050
00:48:04,506 --> 00:48:07,342
Me and my dad have a great relationship
in terms of our banter.
1051
00:48:07,426 --> 00:48:11,096
It hasn't been like, "I'm sorry,"
but in his way, it has been.
1052
00:48:11,179 --> 00:48:14,975
And I feel comfortable
with his answer and who he is as a man.
1053
00:48:15,058 --> 00:48:18,061
I don't, like, throw any stones at him,
1054
00:48:18,145 --> 00:48:19,771
you know, 'cause my dad's a good father.
1055
00:48:19,855 --> 00:48:21,982
I just... It's my first time expressing
1056
00:48:22,065 --> 00:48:24,860
that this is something
that is affecting me,
1057
00:48:24,943 --> 00:48:29,656
because you don't really see
from men how to be a good husband.
1058
00:48:29,740 --> 00:48:33,452
It's always, like,
"Happy wife, happy life."
1059
00:48:33,535 --> 00:48:36,121
You don't really hear the experience.
1060
00:48:36,204 --> 00:48:38,457
Especially as a guy like me,
I was an athlete.
1061
00:48:38,540 --> 00:48:41,877
Just how to transition from going
from a little bit of a rock star life
1062
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,962
to now you're just with one person.
1063
00:48:44,046 --> 00:48:46,673
There's really nobody
that explains it, talks about it.
1064
00:48:46,757 --> 00:48:49,468
You're speaking of examples
of how to be a good husband.
1065
00:48:49,551 --> 00:48:51,219
There was one conversation you had with AD
1066
00:48:51,303 --> 00:48:54,014
where you said you'd been
watching Love Is Blind for the first time,
1067
00:48:54,097 --> 00:48:56,308
and it made you nervous
because, as you said,
1068
00:48:56,391 --> 00:48:59,186
"That is what a husband is supposed
to come like. Says the right things."
1069
00:48:59,269 --> 00:49:01,313
So I'm curious who in that moment
1070
00:49:01,396 --> 00:49:03,941
you were referring to
when watching Love Is Blind.
1071
00:49:04,024 --> 00:49:06,443
[laughs] Uh, so it's very documented
1072
00:49:06,526 --> 00:49:08,570
I didn't watch
Love Is Blind before I joined the show.
1073
00:49:08,654 --> 00:49:11,239
Actually, it was funny,
when I seen AD and her mom,
1074
00:49:11,323 --> 00:49:14,534
they put on Love Is Blind season four,
and I was referring to Brett.
1075
00:49:14,618 --> 00:49:16,828
-I thought that Brett was...
-[chuckles]
1076
00:49:16,912 --> 00:49:19,623
[Clay] I felt like he did everything.
He said all the right things.
1077
00:49:19,706 --> 00:49:24,795
He just personified
as a good Black man or a good husband...
1078
00:49:24,878 --> 00:49:26,630
Not even Black man, just a good husband.
1079
00:49:26,713 --> 00:49:29,466
And you know, I just looked at him,
and I was like, "I don't think that
1080
00:49:30,384 --> 00:49:33,053
who I am could do at all what Brett did."
1081
00:49:33,136 --> 00:49:34,596
It was a little pessimistic thought.
1082
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,516
But even with that,
you know, I give myself grace.
1083
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:38,934
I do it in my own way.
1084
00:49:39,017 --> 00:49:41,186
And I'm not even happy with that comment,
1085
00:49:41,269 --> 00:49:44,564
but the compliment
is I do think Brett is a stand-up guy.
1086
00:49:44,648 --> 00:49:47,401
And I was just looking
and, you know, thinking of that sense.
1087
00:49:47,484 --> 00:49:50,112
We're lucky to have Brett and Tiffany
with us here today.
1088
00:49:50,195 --> 00:49:51,154
Guys.
1089
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,661
[Vanessa] How does that
make you feel hearing that, Brett?
1090
00:49:58,203 --> 00:50:00,580
Ooh. I just wanna say thank you, man.
1091
00:50:00,664 --> 00:50:04,459
Um, that's not...
it's very humbling to hear, honestly.
1092
00:50:04,543 --> 00:50:05,669
Um...
1093
00:50:06,628 --> 00:50:09,923
I don't know why I'm getting emotional
talking because, um...
1094
00:50:11,591 --> 00:50:14,803
Like, I didn't really come from,
like, the perfect household either,
1095
00:50:14,886 --> 00:50:18,724
in terms of my mom and my dad
and their relationship.
1096
00:50:18,807 --> 00:50:22,102
Um, and there was a lot of things
that I was concerned
1097
00:50:22,185 --> 00:50:25,480
about how I would show up
going through this experiment.
1098
00:50:25,564 --> 00:50:26,606
Um...
1099
00:50:27,566 --> 00:50:30,736
And as a credit to her,
like, she created the space for me to,
1100
00:50:31,403 --> 00:50:35,782
um... be the person
that I knew that I could be.
1101
00:50:36,408 --> 00:50:40,579
Um, and, you know,
it's... it's very humbling to hear.
1102
00:50:41,163 --> 00:50:43,665
Um, but even going through everything,
1103
00:50:43,749 --> 00:50:47,127
I had a lot of doubts,
and I was very concerned about, like,
1104
00:50:47,210 --> 00:50:48,712
am I gonna be a good husband?
1105
00:50:48,795 --> 00:50:52,174
Yeah, we good now while we're filming,
but, like, when the cameras are off,
1106
00:50:52,257 --> 00:50:54,009
am I gonna know how to show up?
1107
00:50:54,092 --> 00:50:55,719
Am I gonna know how to be the husband
1108
00:50:55,802 --> 00:50:59,514
that she expects me to be
and the husband that I want to be?
1109
00:50:59,598 --> 00:51:02,642
-You know? Hope I'm doing good.
-[laughs] You're doing great, babe.
1110
00:51:02,726 --> 00:51:05,187
-[laughing]
-[Brett] Uh, but, um...
1111
00:51:05,771 --> 00:51:09,399
Yeah, man, I just...
it's very humbling to hear that.
1112
00:51:09,483 --> 00:51:10,817
Especially, you know,
1113
00:51:10,901 --> 00:51:13,987
Black man to Black man,
you know, it's, um...
1114
00:51:14,780 --> 00:51:16,198
I'm humbled. Thank you.
1115
00:51:16,281 --> 00:51:17,115
All good.
1116
00:51:21,536 --> 00:51:24,414
Tiffany, how is Brett showing up
in the husband department?
1117
00:51:24,498 --> 00:51:27,292
-He's doing all right?
-Oh! He's doing more than all right.
1118
00:51:27,375 --> 00:51:29,836
-[Nick laughs] No doubts.
-And I think it's great.
1119
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,923
Because every day
I fall more in love with him.
1120
00:51:33,006 --> 00:51:35,926
-So, you're doing great.
-[all laughing]
1121
00:51:36,009 --> 00:51:37,719
What's ahead for the two of you?
Catch us up.
1122
00:51:37,803 --> 00:51:41,348
Well, I mean, Brett and I
have just been traveling the world.
1123
00:51:41,431 --> 00:51:45,393
Um, we actually have a trip coming up
in April to Japan.
1124
00:51:45,477 --> 00:51:47,813
Which I know is
one of your favorite places.
1125
00:51:47,896 --> 00:51:51,566
Um, and we are laying down
some roots in Portland.
1126
00:51:51,650 --> 00:51:53,318
We're actually looking
for homes right now.
1127
00:51:53,401 --> 00:51:55,570
It'll be our first home, so...
1128
00:51:56,279 --> 00:51:58,115
Um, I'm excited to get that started.
1129
00:51:58,198 --> 00:52:01,159
I love it. Well, thank you
for being here today with us.
1130
00:52:01,243 --> 00:52:02,661
You're happy in love.
1131
00:52:02,744 --> 00:52:06,915
And talking about happy in love
with our couple this season,
1132
00:52:06,998 --> 00:52:12,129
{\an8}Johnny and Amy, you guys also have
a fun and funky relationship.
1133
00:52:12,212 --> 00:52:14,297
{\an8}We've actually got
a look back at some highlights.
1134
00:52:14,381 --> 00:52:17,259
{\an8}-From your first year of marriage. Look.
-Oh, God. [laughs]
1135
00:52:19,136 --> 00:52:21,096
{\an8}All right, so today on Johnny's kitchen,
1136
00:52:21,179 --> 00:52:24,808
{\an8}we're gonna be making some... [laughs]
1137
00:52:24,891 --> 00:52:27,477
{\an8}We're actually gonna be
feeding me a little tomato.
1138
00:52:27,561 --> 00:52:29,104
{\an8}We have tomatoes down there.
1139
00:52:29,187 --> 00:52:31,189
{\an8}So what I'm gonna do is
I'm gonna grab my tomato.
1140
00:52:31,273 --> 00:52:34,484
{\an8}I'm gonna open it up.
Uh, there I go. I'm gonna go...
1141
00:52:35,527 --> 00:52:37,529
{\an8}-Oh!
-[laughing]
1142
00:52:38,363 --> 00:52:40,907
{\an8}-[Amy mutters]
-Yummy, yummy, in my tummy.
1143
00:52:41,992 --> 00:52:45,704
{\an8}[laughing]
1144
00:52:45,787 --> 00:52:48,832
[Johnny, Amy] Three, two, one!
1145
00:52:48,915 --> 00:52:50,292
[shouting]
1146
00:52:50,375 --> 00:52:52,335
[woman 22] Yeah!
1147
00:52:53,587 --> 00:52:56,798
-Happy New Year, babe.
-Happy New Year!
1148
00:52:56,882 --> 00:52:59,009
[both laugh]
1149
00:52:59,092 --> 00:53:01,720
{\an8}-The things I do for her!
-[shouts]
1150
00:53:01,803 --> 00:53:03,138
{\an8}-[laughing]
-[Amy] Oh!
1151
00:53:03,221 --> 00:53:04,139
{\an8}[pop music playing]
1152
00:53:04,222 --> 00:53:05,390
{\an8}-You've done that.
-Yeah.
1153
00:53:05,473 --> 00:53:06,558
{\an8}[Johnny] Wife!
1154
00:53:06,641 --> 00:53:09,311
{\an8}♪ Do it for me, the love gonna be ♪
1155
00:53:12,397 --> 00:53:14,691
-[Nick] Wow! You guys, uh...
-[Vanessa] Yeah!
1156
00:53:16,943 --> 00:53:20,030
You packed a lot into your first
year of marriage. That's awesome.
1157
00:53:20,113 --> 00:53:21,323
-We're trying.
-Absolutely.
1158
00:53:21,406 --> 00:53:23,783
Since you guys are new
to this whole marriage thing,
1159
00:53:23,867 --> 00:53:27,662
let's ask you this,
what's the best thing about your spouse?
1160
00:53:28,496 --> 00:53:30,665
I don't know.
I feel it's kind of everything.
1161
00:53:30,749 --> 00:53:34,753
Like the fact that you don't
just jump the gun to assumptions,
1162
00:53:34,836 --> 00:53:37,672
and you actually hear me out
for things I say,
1163
00:53:37,756 --> 00:53:39,758
things I ask, just questions in general
1164
00:53:39,841 --> 00:53:42,677
and really wanna know where
I'm coming from, from a place of love.
1165
00:53:44,095 --> 00:53:45,388
That's probably the biggest one.
1166
00:53:46,181 --> 00:53:49,267
He's just so gentle and caring and loving.
1167
00:53:49,351 --> 00:53:51,728
Like, I couldn't have had a better man.
1168
00:53:51,811 --> 00:53:54,356
-Like, forever grateful for him.
-Thank you, baby.
1169
00:53:54,439 --> 00:53:55,982
-For sure.
-[Vanessa] Aww.
1170
00:53:56,066 --> 00:53:57,943
I remember you said in one of the episodes
1171
00:53:58,026 --> 00:54:00,028
that you wanted
to have, like, a drag-out fight.
1172
00:54:00,111 --> 00:54:01,404
So it's been a year.
1173
00:54:01,488 --> 00:54:03,448
-[Nick laughs]
-[Vanessa] Have y'all had a fight?
1174
00:54:03,531 --> 00:54:05,992
-Not really! No.
-[laughing]
1175
00:54:06,076 --> 00:54:09,829
[Johnny] It's really, like,
weird to think about it, but...
1176
00:54:10,413 --> 00:54:12,332
it has been relatively easy.
1177
00:54:12,415 --> 00:54:14,084
-Granted, we have disagreements.
-Yeah.
1178
00:54:14,167 --> 00:54:16,503
-But it's, like, we just talk.
-[Vanessa] All right.
1179
00:54:16,586 --> 00:54:18,546
So who does the household chores?
1180
00:54:19,297 --> 00:54:21,299
[Amy] Both of us, but he beats me to it.
1181
00:54:21,383 --> 00:54:23,718
-He beats me to it for sure.
-[Vanessa] He beats you to it?
1182
00:54:23,802 --> 00:54:25,971
Especially when it comes
to laundry and dishes.
1183
00:54:26,054 --> 00:54:28,723
-I just... He's on top of it.
-Jeramey, just like you.
1184
00:54:28,807 --> 00:54:31,309
I cannot stand when dishes are
in the sink that are dirty.
1185
00:54:31,393 --> 00:54:33,478
-So I do it right away.
-[Amy] Yeah.
1186
00:54:34,229 --> 00:54:38,108
I will say, like, between that
and then you stacking up the plates, Clay,
1187
00:54:38,858 --> 00:54:40,527
we got a clean little group of men.
1188
00:54:40,610 --> 00:54:42,737
-I love that! I love that.
-[Vanessa] Yeah.
1189
00:54:43,363 --> 00:54:47,242
Okay, well, social media
has been lighting up this season,
1190
00:54:47,325 --> 00:54:49,494
and we have some viewer questions
1191
00:54:49,577 --> 00:54:53,581
that our former cast members
are gonna help get some answers to.
1192
00:54:54,207 --> 00:54:58,128
{\an8}-So, Chelsea, hey.
-Hi.
1193
00:54:58,211 --> 00:55:01,798
-[Vanessa] You have our first question.
-Awesome, this is for Jessica.
1194
00:55:01,881 --> 00:55:05,135
"Jessica, what does Autumn
think of all of this?"
1195
00:55:05,218 --> 00:55:07,262
"And did you let her watch the show?"
1196
00:55:07,345 --> 00:55:09,514
I've seen that question a lot too.
1197
00:55:09,597 --> 00:55:14,019
Um, Autumn is still over the moon excited.
1198
00:55:14,102 --> 00:55:18,148
She's loving it. I didn't let her
watch the show in its entirety.
1199
00:55:18,231 --> 00:55:21,693
I mean, she's met
mostly all of the female cast.
1200
00:55:21,776 --> 00:55:23,862
And there are certain things, like...
1201
00:55:24,529 --> 00:55:26,323
I don't want her being, like,
1202
00:55:26,406 --> 00:55:29,284
"Who was Aunt Chelsea talking about
when she said..." You know?
1203
00:55:29,826 --> 00:55:33,288
So, she loves it, but, honestly,
1204
00:55:33,371 --> 00:55:35,540
I didn't even realize this before I went,
1205
00:55:35,623 --> 00:55:38,335
Autumn had actually
really never even seen me cry before.
1206
00:55:38,418 --> 00:55:43,381
Like, my whole, you know, thing with her
has always been, like, I'm strong.
1207
00:55:43,465 --> 00:55:45,759
Like, you know, and moms get it,
1208
00:55:45,842 --> 00:55:47,761
Like, your breakdowns have to be,
like, scheduled.
1209
00:55:47,844 --> 00:55:50,388
Like, you can't just have a moment
in the middle of the day.
1210
00:55:50,472 --> 00:55:52,432
But in a way, it's been a huge blessing,
1211
00:55:52,515 --> 00:55:55,435
because it's allowed her to see me
be a little bit more human.
1212
00:55:56,144 --> 00:55:58,146
Which in turn is gonna help her.
1213
00:55:58,897 --> 00:56:01,441
God, I cannot talk
about her without losing it.
1214
00:56:01,524 --> 00:56:02,359
[laughing]
1215
00:56:02,442 --> 00:56:05,195
[Jessica] It will help her know that...
1216
00:56:05,737 --> 00:56:08,698
Crying and showing your emotions
doesn't make you weak, and it's okay.
1217
00:56:08,782 --> 00:56:12,285
So anyway, to wrap that up,
she loves it, and yeah.
1218
00:56:12,369 --> 00:56:14,120
[Vanessa] Thank you, Jess.
1219
00:56:14,204 --> 00:56:15,914
-Thank you, Chelsea.
-[Chelsea 1] Thank you.
1220
00:56:15,997 --> 00:56:17,832
[Vanessa] Gigi, you've the next question.
1221
00:56:18,458 --> 00:56:20,085
This is for Johnny and Amy.
1222
00:56:20,794 --> 00:56:23,797
It says, "I'm confused.
Were condoms not an option?"
1223
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,965
[laughing]
1224
00:56:26,591 --> 00:56:28,843
Clearly, I'm the poster child
for birth control.
1225
00:56:28,927 --> 00:56:29,844
[laughing]
1226
00:56:29,928 --> 00:56:33,181
Yes, uh, condoms were always an option.
1227
00:56:33,681 --> 00:56:36,684
I think the big thing
that I really wanna point out is that
1228
00:56:37,268 --> 00:56:41,272
I didn't really know too much about
the whole topic of birth control at all
1229
00:56:41,898 --> 00:56:44,275
until I really had
the first conversation with Amy.
1230
00:56:44,776 --> 00:56:46,986
After that, we basically
went back to our corners,
1231
00:56:47,070 --> 00:56:48,863
did more research on the whole subject,
1232
00:56:48,947 --> 00:56:51,658
and then we came back
and found, like, an actual reason of,
1233
00:56:51,741 --> 00:56:54,577
"Hey, let's move forward
with this specific option."
1234
00:56:54,661 --> 00:56:58,581
Um, but something I really never had
to think about I feel like as a guy
1235
00:56:58,665 --> 00:57:00,458
because it wasn't something that I was...
1236
00:57:01,376 --> 00:57:02,710
thinking about constantly.
1237
00:57:03,211 --> 00:57:06,840
[Amy] And there were continuous
conversations too, and I feel like,
1238
00:57:06,923 --> 00:57:08,883
respectfully, I had
to educate him a lot. [laughs]
1239
00:57:09,467 --> 00:57:11,803
But, um, you know, we figured it out.
1240
00:57:11,886 --> 00:57:13,638
I never ended up going on birth control.
1241
00:57:13,721 --> 00:57:16,683
He never got a vasectomy.
I was never forced to do anything.
1242
00:57:16,766 --> 00:57:19,394
Otherwise, we would've been
on separate ends of the couch.
1243
00:57:19,477 --> 00:57:22,355
But yeah, no, we figured it out.
And that's all that matters.
1244
00:57:22,439 --> 00:57:25,483
-Good. You guys had a lot of discipline.
-[Amy] Yeah.
1245
00:57:25,567 --> 00:57:27,777
[laughing]
1246
00:57:27,861 --> 00:57:31,239
[Nick] Uh, I think
Alexa has our next question.
1247
00:57:31,322 --> 00:57:35,869
Okay, so Sarah Ann, she has taken
a lot of heat for her DM that she sent,
1248
00:57:35,952 --> 00:57:38,288
but, Chelsea, I have a question for you.
1249
00:57:38,371 --> 00:57:40,165
"What did you think about the conversation
1250
00:57:40,248 --> 00:57:43,376
Jessica and Laura had about Jimmy
when they met up at the bar?"
1251
00:57:43,460 --> 00:57:45,336
"Did you think it was appropriate?"
1252
00:57:45,420 --> 00:57:50,467
It was an odd conversation
for me to see and actually witness it,
1253
00:57:50,550 --> 00:57:53,928
because it was a little bit
disrespectful to my relationship,
1254
00:57:54,012 --> 00:57:55,889
when I'm going through the trenches,
1255
00:57:55,972 --> 00:57:58,558
trying to figure out,
like, "Is this my man?"
1256
00:57:58,641 --> 00:58:00,185
Like, "How do we make it work?"
1257
00:58:00,268 --> 00:58:04,898
And I, obviously, it's not a secret,
had insecurities during the show.
1258
00:58:04,981 --> 00:58:08,443
And, you know,
it kind of just added to that feeling,
1259
00:58:08,526 --> 00:58:11,571
so, um, it hurt a little bit,
1260
00:58:12,197 --> 00:58:15,742
but Jess and I are on really good terms.
I love you with my whole heart.
1261
00:58:16,326 --> 00:58:18,495
I didn't have any malicious intent,
1262
00:58:18,578 --> 00:58:22,123
but it was completely absent-minded.
That's one of my best friends.
1263
00:58:22,207 --> 00:58:24,417
And this is wildly disrespectful.
1264
00:58:25,293 --> 00:58:27,962
And I don't expect any grace for that.
That was not my best moment.
1265
00:58:28,546 --> 00:58:30,256
[Vanessa] Thanks, Alexa.
1266
00:58:30,340 --> 00:58:33,593
We have Tiffany. Hey, girl.
1267
00:58:33,676 --> 00:58:34,844
You have the next question.
1268
00:58:35,428 --> 00:58:36,262
Sarah Ann.
1269
00:58:36,346 --> 00:58:40,058
[laughs] "So does Jeramey
share his location with you?"
1270
00:58:40,141 --> 00:58:43,269
-[laughing]
-He does. He does.
1271
00:58:43,353 --> 00:58:46,981
-And he does that willingly, so, um...
-Apparently, that's my thing.
1272
00:58:47,065 --> 00:58:48,858
[laughing]
1273
00:58:49,776 --> 00:58:52,695
[Nick] Our next question
is coming from Micah.
1274
00:58:52,779 --> 00:58:54,364
-[Micah] Oh, my God.
-[Nick] What's up?
1275
00:58:54,447 --> 00:58:56,533
-Yay, I wanted to get involved! Okay.
-[laughing]
1276
00:58:57,575 --> 00:58:58,993
Okay. Mine's for Jimmy.
1277
00:58:59,577 --> 00:59:00,787
What did your friend think
1278
00:59:00,870 --> 00:59:03,873
about Chelsea sharing your little secret
with the world?
1279
00:59:04,666 --> 00:59:06,501
[audience] Ooh!
1280
00:59:07,710 --> 00:59:12,173
[Jimmy] Um, you know,
I knew coming on a TV show,
1281
00:59:12,257 --> 00:59:13,758
I'm putting myself out there.
1282
00:59:13,841 --> 00:59:17,053
Um, she didn't deserve that, and...
1283
00:59:18,429 --> 00:59:21,474
She didn't love hearing it.
She was there for me as a friend
1284
00:59:21,558 --> 00:59:24,310
and someone that loved me.
Someone that wanted to support me.
1285
00:59:24,394 --> 00:59:27,355
You know, I got a ton of dude friends
in my life, but with...
1286
00:59:28,398 --> 00:59:32,443
When I'm talking to guys,
I'm not getting emotional with the fellas.
1287
00:59:32,527 --> 00:59:36,322
The girls will, like, let me lay into them
about where I'm at with everything.
1288
00:59:36,406 --> 00:59:40,618
I was trying so hard in my relationship,
and they came on to support me.
1289
00:59:40,702 --> 00:59:42,412
They came on to be a friend to her,
1290
00:59:43,621 --> 00:59:44,998
and I told... I told...
1291
00:59:45,081 --> 00:59:48,209
[chuckles] I'm getting ahead of myself.
I told you out of confidence.
1292
00:59:48,293 --> 00:59:49,836
And they felt...
1293
00:59:50,420 --> 00:59:52,630
One of them is really pissed off at me
for mentioning it.
1294
00:59:52,714 --> 00:59:54,882
-[Micah] Yeah.
-So I told her about them in the pods.
1295
00:59:54,966 --> 00:59:57,051
I was very forward.
1296
00:59:57,135 --> 01:00:00,430
Also, she had an ex-boyfriend
that she still hangs out with.
1297
01:00:00,513 --> 01:00:04,183
-I don't. I don't hang out with him.
-All right, well, I misheard you, sorry.
1298
01:00:04,267 --> 01:00:07,103
I think we misheard each other
in a lot of things, to be honest.
1299
01:00:07,186 --> 01:00:11,065
But I hated that
all this came out so bad, and...
1300
01:00:12,442 --> 01:00:16,529
"I can take it, they didn't deserve it"
is the main way I can put it.
1301
01:00:16,613 --> 01:00:18,448
But I would be robbing her
if I didn't tell her.
1302
01:00:18,531 --> 01:00:21,242
I told her because I was planning
to get married to her,
1303
01:00:21,326 --> 01:00:23,494
and she needed to know every bit of me.
1304
01:00:23,578 --> 01:00:25,705
-I get that, for sure.
-[Nick] I'm curious.
1305
01:00:25,788 --> 01:00:27,915
The rest of you, how do you feel about
1306
01:00:27,999 --> 01:00:32,837
this situation of Jimmy
sharing a secret with Chelsea
1307
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,007
and her sharing that secret on camera?
1308
01:00:36,090 --> 01:00:39,052
Who thinks that
the secret shared in confidence
1309
01:00:39,135 --> 01:00:41,137
shouldn't have been repeated on camera?
1310
01:00:42,305 --> 01:00:44,182
-Yeah.
-Maybe don't say the bean dip thing.
1311
01:00:44,265 --> 01:00:45,850
That was in confidence too, so...
1312
01:00:45,933 --> 01:00:48,269
-[Vanessa] Say the what? Oh.
-Yeah. Nothing.
1313
01:00:48,353 --> 01:00:50,271
-[Vanessa] We going back to bean dip?
-[laughing]
1314
01:00:50,355 --> 01:00:52,899
[Nick] Do you guys think she had a right
to say that on camera?
1315
01:00:53,483 --> 01:00:55,610
If they had
the conversation in confidence,
1316
01:00:55,693 --> 01:00:57,945
then I don't think that she should've.
1317
01:00:58,029 --> 01:00:59,697
But I also get, you know,
1318
01:00:59,781 --> 01:01:02,408
I'mma give Chelsea some grace.
It's an emotional experience.
1319
01:01:02,492 --> 01:01:04,577
[Micah] I think that also
if it was something
1320
01:01:04,661 --> 01:01:07,705
that was affecting her and affecting
their relationship, she has to show it.
1321
01:01:07,789 --> 01:01:11,626
I'm sure a lot of her comments back to him
and feelings back to him
1322
01:01:11,709 --> 01:01:14,128
were coming from a place of hurt
from that information.
1323
01:01:14,212 --> 01:01:17,340
-[Jimmy] Yeah.
-100%. It's a real-life relationship.
1324
01:01:17,423 --> 01:01:20,218
That was a huge issue,
and it was really sitting on me.
1325
01:01:20,301 --> 01:01:22,970
And I apologize more than...
1326
01:01:23,054 --> 01:01:25,348
I could never apologize enough
1327
01:01:25,431 --> 01:01:28,601
for how horrible I feel
for bringing it up and ruining that trust.
1328
01:01:28,685 --> 01:01:30,603
'Cause it ruined everything.
1329
01:01:30,687 --> 01:01:35,733
And it was just a true issue
that I just couldn't get off my chest,
1330
01:01:35,817 --> 01:01:37,151
and it coming out was just...
1331
01:01:37,735 --> 01:01:38,986
I forget about the cameras.
1332
01:01:39,070 --> 01:01:40,905
I didn't even realize
the cameras were there.
1333
01:01:40,988 --> 01:01:46,619
It was just a huge argument
that just blew up, and I'm really sorry.
1334
01:01:46,703 --> 01:01:50,248
We've talked about it a hundred times,
and we even tried to work through it.
1335
01:01:50,331 --> 01:01:53,292
Um, ultimately, she has feelings that,
1336
01:01:53,376 --> 01:01:54,877
you know, made her feel a certain way.
1337
01:01:54,961 --> 01:01:58,047
She has the right to speak up on that.
She's not in the wrong for saying it.
1338
01:01:58,131 --> 01:02:00,007
I just didn't love the fashion
how it came up.
1339
01:02:00,091 --> 01:02:04,262
Me neither, my guy, me neither.
That was awful. Absolutely awful.
1340
01:02:05,722 --> 01:02:09,350
[Nick] Jimmy, looking back on that,
do you think that was a defining moment
1341
01:02:09,434 --> 01:02:12,520
in your guys' relationship together?
1342
01:02:12,603 --> 01:02:13,730
Yeah, absolutely.
1343
01:02:13,813 --> 01:02:16,315
I can see it in my eyes when I'm speaking.
1344
01:02:16,399 --> 01:02:18,109
Everything after that.
1345
01:02:18,192 --> 01:02:22,155
That, you know, we were
kind of going through the motions.
1346
01:02:22,238 --> 01:02:25,616
And it's easy to see in hindsight
what was the right decision.
1347
01:02:25,700 --> 01:02:29,454
And the right decision would've been
for me to let you go at that point.
1348
01:02:29,537 --> 01:02:33,583
Um, but I drug it on partially
because we loved each other so much.
1349
01:02:34,709 --> 01:02:36,919
[Nick] I'm curious
to hear from everybody else up here.
1350
01:02:37,003 --> 01:02:40,757
You guys all got to watch their story
kind of unfold in real-time,
1351
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:45,511
but then watching it back and seeing
more of what happened behind closed doors,
1352
01:02:45,595 --> 01:02:48,639
did it change your perception
of them as a couple,
1353
01:02:48,723 --> 01:02:51,726
change your perception of what they were
going through, what they were living?
1354
01:02:51,809 --> 01:02:52,810
[AD] It did for me.
1355
01:02:52,894 --> 01:02:56,355
[exhales] Um, I know Chelsea is so fun
1356
01:02:56,439 --> 01:02:58,775
and bubbly and outgoing
1357
01:02:58,858 --> 01:03:00,568
and just carefree,
1358
01:03:00,651 --> 01:03:02,779
and to see her, like, that way
1359
01:03:02,862 --> 01:03:06,115
and, like, the insecurities
be highlighted like that
1360
01:03:06,199 --> 01:03:09,869
was really, really, really tough to watch,
because we don't know that side of you.
1361
01:03:09,952 --> 01:03:12,413
We know this very confident
and very proud woman.
1362
01:03:12,497 --> 01:03:16,793
And so to see you kind of go through
that emotional roller coaster...
1363
01:03:16,876 --> 01:03:19,420
-[Chelsea 2] Mm-hmm. Yeah.
-That was wild to watch.
1364
01:03:19,504 --> 01:03:21,297
-[Vanessa] Thank you guys for sharing.
- Yeah.
1365
01:03:21,380 --> 01:03:22,256
[Vanessa] Jessica.
1366
01:03:23,299 --> 01:03:24,425
Hey, girl.
1367
01:03:24,509 --> 01:03:27,553
Um, I wanna take it back to the lake party
1368
01:03:27,637 --> 01:03:31,015
when you and Jimmy
were having a conversation.
1369
01:03:31,098 --> 01:03:33,893
There seemed to be some sparks flying,
1370
01:03:33,976 --> 01:03:35,561
lots of chemistry.
1371
01:03:35,645 --> 01:03:39,524
Like, I don't feel like
I was feeling chemistry.
1372
01:03:39,607 --> 01:03:41,859
I think I was still attached to, like...
1373
01:03:42,735 --> 01:03:44,862
You heard me say earlier in the season,
1374
01:03:44,946 --> 01:03:48,157
um, like, he has a part of me
I feel like I'll never get back.
1375
01:03:48,241 --> 01:03:50,868
And being able to, like,
be in front of him in person
1376
01:03:50,952 --> 01:03:53,162
and feeling like he does still have that.
1377
01:03:53,246 --> 01:03:56,791
And I was happy,
because I still feel grateful for it
1378
01:03:56,874 --> 01:03:59,085
that I was able to share those moments
1379
01:03:59,168 --> 01:04:01,254
and share things
about myself with someone.
1380
01:04:01,337 --> 01:04:03,381
-Yeah.
-But I think he and I both agreed.
1381
01:04:03,464 --> 01:04:06,509
It was an unspoken thing
that we knew it wouldn't have worked.
1382
01:04:07,385 --> 01:04:08,302
[Nick] You agree?
1383
01:04:08,970 --> 01:04:11,514
Yeah, I mean,
I was very eager to meet her,
1384
01:04:11,597 --> 01:04:14,851
but, you know, I'm an engaged man,
and I was there for Chelsea at that point,
1385
01:04:14,934 --> 01:04:19,146
and I wanted to make sure
she knew I was all hands on deck there.
1386
01:04:19,230 --> 01:04:20,857
Um, but I think that conversation,
1387
01:04:20,940 --> 01:04:23,484
obviously, there was
a ton of chemistry between the two of us,
1388
01:04:23,568 --> 01:04:27,530
and when we connected,
it was more of a friend thing.
1389
01:04:27,613 --> 01:04:30,324
Kind of... It's... It's weird.
1390
01:04:30,408 --> 01:04:33,661
It is a weird feeling having
two women tell you they love you.
1391
01:04:33,744 --> 01:04:37,164
And I truthfully hope I never have
that happen to me ever again.
1392
01:04:37,248 --> 01:04:38,457
[laughing]
1393
01:04:38,541 --> 01:04:42,420
Viewers obviously got to see that moment
where you guys saw each other at the lake.
1394
01:04:42,503 --> 01:04:44,964
But they were disappointed
they didn't get a chance
1395
01:04:45,631 --> 01:04:49,760
to see your reaction when you saw
a picture of her for the very first time.
1396
01:04:49,844 --> 01:04:51,012
So, Jimmy, be honest.
1397
01:04:51,512 --> 01:04:53,389
Did you in fact choke...
1398
01:04:53,472 --> 01:04:54,473
[all laughing]
1399
01:04:54,557 --> 01:04:57,894
...as Jessica predicted you would,
when you saw that picture?
1400
01:04:59,103 --> 01:05:01,814
Jess doesn't need me to tell her this,
but you're absolutely stunning.
1401
01:05:01,898 --> 01:05:03,566
-You're gorgeous.
-Thank you so much.
1402
01:05:03,649 --> 01:05:05,818
[Vanessa] There's a moment
that you talked about, Jimmy,
1403
01:05:05,902 --> 01:05:08,404
you following her on social media
1404
01:05:08,487 --> 01:05:10,615
and then really quickly unfollowing her.
1405
01:05:10,698 --> 01:05:13,200
I did follow her along with everybody else
at the same time
1406
01:05:13,284 --> 01:05:14,702
the moment I got my phone back.
1407
01:05:14,785 --> 01:05:17,580
Um, yeah, I was eager to see her,
I've already hit on that.
1408
01:05:17,663 --> 01:05:21,167
But, um, I did withdraw it.
1409
01:05:21,250 --> 01:05:22,543
I mean, she...
1410
01:05:23,878 --> 01:05:24,921
She saw it.
1411
01:05:25,004 --> 01:05:28,841
I was giving...
I was giving her the nod of approval
1412
01:05:28,925 --> 01:05:31,886
that I'm curious to see, and I don't know.
1413
01:05:31,969 --> 01:05:35,431
It just became a weird thing to me,
and so I just withdrew it.
1414
01:05:36,098 --> 01:05:38,559
Went private. "You're not gonna look
at my profile either."
1415
01:05:38,643 --> 01:05:43,230
But, apparently, you already did
your own digging before that, so...
1416
01:05:43,314 --> 01:05:45,858
Yeah, I mean, no,
I saw your friend request come through
1417
01:05:45,942 --> 01:05:47,902
and I was like,
"Is that who I think it is?"
1418
01:05:47,985 --> 01:05:49,528
And I was like, "Oh, my God, it is."
1419
01:05:49,612 --> 01:05:51,656
"Well, he's the one
who has his profile on public."
1420
01:05:51,739 --> 01:05:53,574
"Like, this is why
I have mine on private."
1421
01:05:53,658 --> 01:05:56,160
So when you followed her,
is that when you saw the picture?
1422
01:05:56,827 --> 01:05:59,872
Jeramey showed me the picture in the gym
when we were working out.
1423
01:06:01,123 --> 01:06:02,291
[Vanessa] Jeramey!
1424
01:06:02,375 --> 01:06:05,086
It came up in a conversation,
and I was, like, "Oh, yeah."
1425
01:06:05,169 --> 01:06:06,879
[Vanessa] You and Chelsea
are best friends.
1426
01:06:06,963 --> 01:06:09,048
I love that.
Your daughter calls her Auntie Chelsea.
1427
01:06:09,131 --> 01:06:10,675
Are you and Jimmy friends?
1428
01:06:11,801 --> 01:06:13,135
I thought we were.
1429
01:06:15,012 --> 01:06:16,764
I did. Um...
1430
01:06:16,847 --> 01:06:20,017
After the lake party, I mean,
you guys saw, we left on great terms.
1431
01:06:20,101 --> 01:06:23,771
And then when the show came out,
I knew it might be bad for him.
1432
01:06:23,854 --> 01:06:27,149
I didn't think it was going to be
to the extent that it was.
1433
01:06:27,233 --> 01:06:29,777
All the hate
that he and Chelsea were receiving.
1434
01:06:29,860 --> 01:06:31,904
And I was mortified by it.
1435
01:06:31,988 --> 01:06:35,074
I sent him a message, and I told
Chelsea about it when I sent it.
1436
01:06:35,157 --> 01:06:37,868
I said, "Hey, listen,
like, I'm not finding enjoyment
1437
01:06:37,952 --> 01:06:41,372
in seeing people drag you through hell."
1438
01:06:41,455 --> 01:06:44,417
There's some things rightfully so
you should be given a hard time on.
1439
01:06:44,500 --> 01:06:46,043
But some things people were upset about,
1440
01:06:46,127 --> 01:06:48,713
I was like, "I'm not gonna let you
be bullied into oblivion."
1441
01:06:48,796 --> 01:06:51,924
"When the time comes,
I'm not gonna let you go out like that."
1442
01:06:52,008 --> 01:06:54,844
And then, like, you've seen us
joke on social media
1443
01:06:54,927 --> 01:06:56,721
and, like, comment on each other's stuff.
1444
01:06:56,804 --> 01:07:00,266
And then I saw
an interview that you did recently.
1445
01:07:02,643 --> 01:07:04,020
And I was infuriated.
1446
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,273
-What part?
-[Jessica] I've had plenty of interviews.
1447
01:07:07,356 --> 01:07:09,608
And I've taken every opportunity I've had
1448
01:07:09,692 --> 01:07:12,611
to speak highly of you, our experience,
1449
01:07:12,695 --> 01:07:15,614
how grateful I am
to have had it with you and everything.
1450
01:07:15,698 --> 01:07:18,909
And it seemed like you took
the first opportunity you had
1451
01:07:19,744 --> 01:07:24,331
to just, I guess, make an attempt
at throwing me under the bus,
1452
01:07:24,415 --> 01:07:26,709
but also just flat-out, bald-faced lie.
1453
01:07:26,792 --> 01:07:29,253
You said that I hammered you about
1454
01:07:29,336 --> 01:07:32,673
wanting to continue to explore
your connections, which wasn't true.
1455
01:07:32,757 --> 01:07:35,134
It seemed multiple times, I'm telling you,
1456
01:07:35,217 --> 01:07:37,344
when and if you choose me,
I want you to be sure of it,
1457
01:07:37,428 --> 01:07:40,306
so please explore
and do whatever you need to do.
1458
01:07:40,389 --> 01:07:43,642
And then you also said
that ten minutes into our...
1459
01:07:44,185 --> 01:07:47,438
one of our last dates,
I just stormed out, which also isn't true.
1460
01:07:47,521 --> 01:07:49,565
-[Jimmy] You did.
-[Jessica] We were in for an hour.
1461
01:07:49,648 --> 01:07:53,402
It is also shown that I said,
"Listen, at this point, it feels forced,
1462
01:07:53,486 --> 01:07:56,322
and I think that we should take
an intermission," which you agreed to.
1463
01:07:56,405 --> 01:07:58,115
You said, "I think that's a good idea."
1464
01:07:58,199 --> 01:08:02,703
So I was just so caught off guard
by what motivated you,
1465
01:08:02,787 --> 01:08:04,121
like, what provoked you
1466
01:08:04,205 --> 01:08:07,750
and what made you
wanna say, like, horrible things about me.
1467
01:08:08,584 --> 01:08:09,752
[Jimmy] I have a side,
1468
01:08:09,835 --> 01:08:12,338
'cause I'm being asked
why I didn't choose you.
1469
01:08:12,838 --> 01:08:15,174
And that's part of the reason,
1470
01:08:15,257 --> 01:08:18,010
the way you talked to me
during our last date,
1471
01:08:18,094 --> 01:08:19,386
you leaving the date early.
1472
01:08:19,470 --> 01:08:22,890
I'm sorry if that's throwing shade at you.
1473
01:08:22,973 --> 01:08:25,142
Did you not want me
to leave the date early?
1474
01:08:25,851 --> 01:08:27,186
[Jimmy] No, I wanted you to stay.
1475
01:08:27,269 --> 01:08:28,729
Why did you agree with me and say,
1476
01:08:28,813 --> 01:08:31,190
"I agree, I think
we should take an intermission"?
1477
01:08:31,273 --> 01:08:33,692
Actually, you said,
"I think we should stop."
1478
01:08:33,776 --> 01:08:36,529
If you wanted me to stay, why didn't
you ask me to stay and work it out?
1479
01:08:36,612 --> 01:08:40,533
I... That was after the fact
that we went through
1480
01:08:40,616 --> 01:08:42,868
the period of time where I told you, um...
1481
01:08:42,952 --> 01:08:46,622
Like, you were literally saying,
"What else do you freakin' need from me?"
1482
01:08:46,705 --> 01:08:49,458
I was like, "Well,
I wanna learn a bit more about you."
1483
01:08:49,542 --> 01:08:53,754
And you're like... Your tone of voice
was just offsetting for me, and...
1484
01:08:54,922 --> 01:08:56,257
I didn't say horrible things.
1485
01:08:56,340 --> 01:08:59,093
I said you walked out on our date
when I still hadn't made a decision.
1486
01:08:59,176 --> 01:09:01,512
[Jessica] You said
I stormed out in ten minutes.
1487
01:09:02,596 --> 01:09:05,224
After you read my letter
and had nothing to say back.
1488
01:09:05,808 --> 01:09:07,893
I know I didn't have
the reaction you wanted to.
1489
01:09:07,977 --> 01:09:09,019
That's two questions,
1490
01:09:09,103 --> 01:09:11,188
but I didn't have
the reaction you wanted there.
1491
01:09:11,272 --> 01:09:12,690
And I couldn't give it to you.
1492
01:09:12,773 --> 01:09:17,528
It would've been manipulative to tell you
"I love you" if I didn't feel it.
1493
01:09:17,611 --> 01:09:20,322
Um, I read it because you gave it to me.
1494
01:09:20,406 --> 01:09:23,534
Maybe I shouldn't have read it.
I think we both can agree to that.
1495
01:09:23,617 --> 01:09:24,451
Um...
1496
01:09:24,535 --> 01:09:26,745
I wasn't looking for you
to tell me that you loved me.
1497
01:09:26,829 --> 01:09:30,291
It's even shown that I say that.
I said, "Just give me something."
1498
01:09:30,374 --> 01:09:32,918
Okay, well, you were
on the girls' side saying you loved me.
1499
01:09:33,002 --> 01:09:34,545
You never voiced that to me.
1500
01:09:34,628 --> 01:09:38,883
So there was... there was
two sides to not voicing our opinions.
1501
01:09:38,966 --> 01:09:41,760
You never once told me you loved me.
I don't know why I have to go first.
1502
01:09:42,261 --> 01:09:43,929
I wanted you to say it first.
1503
01:09:44,013 --> 01:09:46,390
I felt like I had given you so much
1504
01:09:46,473 --> 01:09:49,185
and shared the most
intimate details of myself,
1505
01:09:49,768 --> 01:09:52,062
my daughter, my past.
1506
01:09:52,146 --> 01:09:53,480
The things I shared with you,
1507
01:09:53,564 --> 01:09:56,192
I've never shared in any relationship
I've ever been in.
1508
01:09:56,275 --> 01:09:57,234
I felt like
1509
01:09:57,318 --> 01:10:00,070
the least you could've done
was just meet me with...
1510
01:10:00,154 --> 01:10:02,990
If it wasn't an "I love you,"
just your feelings.
1511
01:10:03,073 --> 01:10:04,200
Period.
1512
01:10:04,283 --> 01:10:07,161
Were you looking for her to say
"I love you"? Were you waiting on that?
1513
01:10:07,244 --> 01:10:09,455
Was that something
that would've been meaningful to you?
1514
01:10:09,538 --> 01:10:14,335
No, and I'm kind of backtracking
and going to her leaving the date early.
1515
01:10:14,418 --> 01:10:15,502
That did happen.
1516
01:10:16,086 --> 01:10:17,254
An hour and a half into it.
1517
01:10:17,338 --> 01:10:19,506
-Not ten minutes.
-[Jimmy] Um...
1518
01:10:20,299 --> 01:10:23,886
I maybe give you 45 minutes,
but it felt like ten minutes to me.
1519
01:10:23,969 --> 01:10:25,638
Your perception was ten minutes.
1520
01:10:25,721 --> 01:10:27,473
You're, like, "I'll give you 45."
1521
01:10:27,556 --> 01:10:29,308
You went in an interview
1522
01:10:30,601 --> 01:10:32,311
and said that's actually how it happened.
1523
01:10:32,394 --> 01:10:33,771
Not "this is how I felt."
1524
01:10:33,854 --> 01:10:35,564
But "yeah, this is
actually how it happened."
1525
01:10:35,648 --> 01:10:39,318
And then you said, "I'm really proud
of the edit that she had."
1526
01:10:39,902 --> 01:10:40,736
As if
1527
01:10:41,779 --> 01:10:44,657
every last thing I did
1528
01:10:46,492 --> 01:10:47,660
wasn't real.
1529
01:10:48,786 --> 01:10:52,957
It wasn't an edit. It wasn't.
No one did me any favors.
1530
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:54,875
And I've been the first to say,
1531
01:10:55,668 --> 01:10:58,212
when I had that wine night with Laura,
that wasn't my best moment.
1532
01:10:58,295 --> 01:11:01,924
If I was getting a "good edit,"
you think they would have shown that?
1533
01:11:02,841 --> 01:11:04,802
I don't know what you were looking for.
1534
01:11:05,886 --> 01:11:07,805
But I don't know
if that answers your question.
1535
01:11:07,888 --> 01:11:10,766
I thought we were on good terms,
but I guess that we're not.
1536
01:11:10,849 --> 01:11:12,351
[Jimmy] I mean, I have an opinion too.
1537
01:11:12,434 --> 01:11:16,313
And every date we had was phenomenal,
and everything I would have ever wanted.
1538
01:11:16,397 --> 01:11:18,983
And I felt...
1539
01:11:19,525 --> 01:11:21,735
I'm saying I gave you 45 minutes.
1540
01:11:21,819 --> 01:11:24,154
I still believe it's ten minutes.
1541
01:11:24,238 --> 01:11:26,615
Someone please get the receipts, please.
1542
01:11:28,117 --> 01:11:30,244
-Hello.
-[Jimmy] Oh, my God.
1543
01:11:30,327 --> 01:11:31,912
[laughing]
1544
01:11:31,996 --> 01:11:33,664
[Jessica] I spilled my drink on myself.
1545
01:11:33,747 --> 01:11:36,375
I am a mess all the time.
1546
01:11:36,458 --> 01:11:38,168
That's what you have to look forward to.
1547
01:11:40,587 --> 01:11:42,715
{\an8}Can we take a quick break? [chuckles]
1548
01:11:42,798 --> 01:11:45,175
-Please. That would be great.
-[Jimmy] Okay.
1549
01:12:00,858 --> 01:12:02,776
[Jimmy sighs] You in here, Jess?
1550
01:12:02,860 --> 01:12:03,777
I'm here.
1551
01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:11,869
{\an8}I'm not giving up.
1552
01:12:11,952 --> 01:12:15,706
I'm not walking away
or, like, going to bed angry,
1553
01:12:16,790 --> 01:12:19,752
but it's feeling forced,
and that's just not us.
1554
01:12:20,252 --> 01:12:22,713
-Yeah.
-So I think we should...
1555
01:12:23,505 --> 01:12:25,424
leave it alone for right now.
1556
01:12:26,508 --> 01:12:27,634
I'm good with that.
1557
01:12:29,011 --> 01:12:32,639
I want you to find
the clarity and peace that you need
1558
01:12:32,723 --> 01:12:35,726
to figure out who you wanna
spend the rest of your life with.
1559
01:12:35,809 --> 01:12:37,561
I feel like continuing to talk about it
1560
01:12:37,644 --> 01:12:40,105
is making me feel like
I'm having to talk you into it.
1561
01:12:40,189 --> 01:12:41,523
And I don't want that.
1562
01:12:42,399 --> 01:12:45,361
Thank you for wrapping that up,
because I can't make up...
1563
01:12:45,444 --> 01:12:50,157
[laughing] I can't form a sentence
to figure out how to tell you how I feel.
1564
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:53,494
I don't have anything else to say.
I really don't.
1565
01:12:59,124 --> 01:13:01,502
And maybe I will talk to you later.
1566
01:13:09,718 --> 01:13:12,846
Speaking of the media and social media,
1567
01:13:12,930 --> 01:13:15,933
something that has taken over this show.
1568
01:13:16,767 --> 01:13:18,143
-[laughs]
-[Vanessa] Hey, Chelsea.
1569
01:13:18,227 --> 01:13:19,603
[Nick laughs]
1570
01:13:20,270 --> 01:13:22,147
[Vanessa] The debate about
1571
01:13:22,940 --> 01:13:24,942
the comparison
1572
01:13:25,526 --> 01:13:26,735
to Megan Fox.
1573
01:13:26,819 --> 01:13:29,571
-[Chelsea 2] Bring her? That's all I ask.
-[all laughing]
1574
01:13:29,655 --> 01:13:31,698
-[Vanessa] She's in the back.
-[Nick] Please welcome...
1575
01:13:31,782 --> 01:13:32,908
[Vanessa] Trevor's girl.
1576
01:13:32,991 --> 01:13:36,703
Um, what are your thoughts
1577
01:13:36,787 --> 01:13:37,830
on how this is playing out?
1578
01:13:37,913 --> 01:13:41,125
That was... regrets, big time.
1579
01:13:41,208 --> 01:13:44,628
It was just a silly, little comment
that just slid in there,
1580
01:13:44,711 --> 01:13:47,089
and my whole world
has flipped upside down.
1581
01:13:47,673 --> 01:13:51,760
I'm really, really stinkin' proud
of myself for how I've been handling it.
1582
01:13:51,844 --> 01:13:55,389
I didn't think I could,
'cause the world is harsh.
1583
01:13:55,472 --> 01:13:58,475
And you could say anything.
You could say, "I like the color pink,"
1584
01:13:58,559 --> 01:14:00,936
and people are gonna demolish you.
1585
01:14:01,019 --> 01:14:03,021
Like, it doesn't matter what you say.
1586
01:14:03,105 --> 01:14:05,482
I am so proud of myself,
1587
01:14:05,566 --> 01:14:09,570
and I have just been taking it with grace
and just making humor of it,
1588
01:14:09,653 --> 01:14:11,655
and it is what it is.
1589
01:14:12,364 --> 01:14:13,574
Thanks, guys.
1590
01:14:14,324 --> 01:14:16,827
Thank you. Thank you.
1591
01:14:16,910 --> 01:14:19,788
One couple who knows what it feels like
to be in a love triangle
1592
01:14:19,872 --> 01:14:22,499
but to come out on the other end
with a very happy ending
1593
01:14:22,583 --> 01:14:25,252
is Zack and Bliss from season four.
1594
01:14:25,335 --> 01:14:26,795
You may have heard they're expecting,
1595
01:14:26,879 --> 01:14:29,756
and we're excited to share with you
a clip from their recent baby shower.
1596
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:30,716
Take a look.
1597
01:14:31,383 --> 01:14:32,384
That's gonna be nice.
1598
01:14:32,468 --> 01:14:36,180
-[pop music playing]
-[all laughing]
1599
01:14:36,263 --> 01:14:40,017
{\an8}Tiff and Chels reporting live
from Bliss's baby shower!
1600
01:14:40,100 --> 01:14:43,020
{\an8}-[Chelsea 1] It's good! We're so excited!
-[Tiffany] Here we are.
1601
01:14:44,021 --> 01:14:47,983
{\an8}I just can't believe
our best friends are having a baby.
1602
01:14:48,525 --> 01:14:51,612
{\an8}So for those of you that might not know,
we're having a...
1603
01:14:51,695 --> 01:14:53,238
{\an8}-Baby girl.
-A baby girl!
1604
01:14:53,322 --> 01:14:54,490
We got a girl on the way.
1605
01:14:54,573 --> 01:14:57,409
[Brett] I'll just say we're gonna have
some amazing parents.
1606
01:14:57,493 --> 01:14:58,869
I have no doubt.
1607
01:14:58,952 --> 01:15:00,954
{\an8}Zack and Bliss, they are madly in love,
1608
01:15:01,038 --> 01:15:03,373
the sweetest couple on the planet.
1609
01:15:03,457 --> 01:15:04,374
{\an8}[woman 23] Beautiful!
1610
01:15:04,458 --> 01:15:08,128
{\an8}Cheers to this beautiful couple,
and Baby G.
1611
01:15:08,212 --> 01:15:10,839
{\an8}We're all here for you.
We love you so much. Thank you.
1612
01:15:10,923 --> 01:15:12,925
{\an8}[cheering]
1613
01:15:14,468 --> 01:15:17,971
As my family knows,
I was really hoping for a girl.
1614
01:15:18,055 --> 01:15:22,142
And this is, I mean,
one of the greatest blessings ever.
1615
01:15:22,226 --> 01:15:23,685
Uh, next to Bliss.
1616
01:15:23,769 --> 01:15:25,604
-[woman 24] Aww.
-[woman 25 laughs] Aww.
1617
01:15:25,687 --> 01:15:29,066
He kind of covered it all.
I love you guys all very much. I do.
1618
01:15:30,025 --> 01:15:31,902
And enjoy some wine for me, please.
1619
01:15:31,985 --> 01:15:34,530
[all laughing]
1620
01:15:35,447 --> 01:15:37,866
[cheering]
1621
01:15:38,742 --> 01:15:42,162
{\an8}-[photographer] One, two, three!
-Love is blind!
1622
01:15:43,455 --> 01:15:46,208
-[Nick laughs]
-[Vanessa] Awesome!
1623
01:15:47,584 --> 01:15:50,337
We love seeing
our Love Is Blind family growing.
1624
01:15:50,420 --> 01:15:52,339
{\an8}Chelsea, Kwame, Brett, Tiffany,
1625
01:15:52,422 --> 01:15:54,591
{\an8}you guys were there
with some of the other Pod Squad.
1626
01:15:54,675 --> 01:15:56,134
{\an8}How are Bliss and Zack doing?
1627
01:15:56,218 --> 01:15:57,469
They're doing fantastic.
1628
01:15:57,553 --> 01:16:01,598
Um, B and Z are, like...
They're great, great people.
1629
01:16:01,682 --> 01:16:04,643
And so, like, it's really amazing
1630
01:16:04,726 --> 01:16:07,187
to see everything
that they've desired and wanted
1631
01:16:07,271 --> 01:16:10,148
and everything that this journey
has kind of yielded coming to fruition.
1632
01:16:10,232 --> 01:16:12,568
Because we know that
that's kind of what they wanted.
1633
01:16:12,651 --> 01:16:15,070
They lived about five minutes from us
in center city,
1634
01:16:15,153 --> 01:16:18,448
and then they moved to suburbia,
and they knew where their life was headed.
1635
01:16:18,532 --> 01:16:22,035
That's what they wanted and envisioned.
and it's so cool to see it coming to life.
1636
01:16:22,119 --> 01:16:24,705
We see them a lot, call her every day.
1637
01:16:24,788 --> 01:16:26,957
We're just really excited.
A couple months away.
1638
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:28,917
Bliss and Gigi are not the only ones
1639
01:16:29,001 --> 01:16:31,712
from the Love Is Blind family
who are expecting.
1640
01:16:32,713 --> 01:16:35,591
-Alexa, how are you? How you feeling?
-[Vanessa] Hi, Alexa.
1641
01:16:35,674 --> 01:16:39,511
Doing very well. I'm just, uh, you know...
1642
01:16:39,595 --> 01:16:41,096
{\an8}It's really fun, really exciting.
1643
01:16:41,179 --> 01:16:45,058
{\an8}It was a journey, for sure.
Five months pregnant now.
1644
01:16:45,642 --> 01:16:47,603
Went through some fertility issues.
1645
01:16:47,686 --> 01:16:49,021
And it was a roller coaster,
1646
01:16:49,104 --> 01:16:52,232
and we were, you know, unsure
if it was ever gonna happen for us.
1647
01:16:52,316 --> 01:16:55,485
And, uh, two months away
when we were gonna be starting IVF,
1648
01:16:55,569 --> 01:16:58,447
it happened naturally and so, you know...
1649
01:16:58,530 --> 01:16:59,406
[laughing] Just...
1650
01:16:59,489 --> 01:17:03,368
Um, yeah, and I can't wait
to, you know, have our love
1651
01:17:04,369 --> 01:17:06,204
be physical, like, in a baby.
1652
01:17:06,288 --> 01:17:08,248
I think that's what
I'm really excited about
1653
01:17:08,332 --> 01:17:10,292
and see a combination of both of us.
1654
01:17:10,375 --> 01:17:13,629
And now looking for a house
so we can put the baby somewhere.
1655
01:17:13,712 --> 01:17:15,839
[laughing]
1656
01:17:15,922 --> 01:17:20,594
Um, and the baby
has a name and everything.
1657
01:17:20,677 --> 01:17:24,806
It's really hard not to say
the gender right now, but... [laughs]
1658
01:17:25,432 --> 01:17:27,100
-Yeah.
-[Brennon] Just wanna say this.
1659
01:17:27,184 --> 01:17:29,936
She's been a rock
through this whole thing.
1660
01:17:30,020 --> 01:17:32,064
It's been an emotional journey
1661
01:17:32,147 --> 01:17:34,024
for both of us, her especially.
1662
01:17:34,107 --> 01:17:34,983
And, um...
1663
01:17:35,567 --> 01:17:39,363
It's, uh, just us wanting
to have a family so bad...
1664
01:17:40,572 --> 01:17:43,784
It's wonderful
having this kind of come to fruition.
1665
01:17:43,867 --> 01:17:47,454
-We had a lot of fun practicing, you know?
-[Nick] There you go. Yeah, baby.
1666
01:17:47,537 --> 01:17:49,039
[laughing]
1667
01:17:49,122 --> 01:17:51,166
So Alexa's always been one to be
1668
01:17:52,167 --> 01:17:55,045
honest and direct,
and we love that about you, girl.
1669
01:17:55,128 --> 01:17:59,383
So I wanna ask you if you have
any questions for our season six friends.
1670
01:17:59,466 --> 01:18:02,844
{\an8}I have a lot.
I learned my lesson at my own reunion.
1671
01:18:02,928 --> 01:18:05,806
{\an8}[laughing] So, I'm not gonna say
everything I'm thinking.
1672
01:18:05,889 --> 01:18:08,725
-[laughing]
-Um, but, Brittany and Kenneth, to you.
1673
01:18:08,809 --> 01:18:10,977
{\an8}I don't wanna make you uncomfy.
1674
01:18:11,061 --> 01:18:13,814
-But did either of you just wanna...
-Not "uncomfy."
1675
01:18:13,897 --> 01:18:17,109
...do it and see if that created the crave?
1676
01:18:17,192 --> 01:18:19,611
[laughing]
1677
01:18:20,612 --> 01:18:23,031
-[Alexa] Just once.
-[Brittany] Thank you for the question.
1678
01:18:23,115 --> 01:18:25,117
Finally, we get our time. Okay.
1679
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:26,493
-[laughing]
-[Brittany] Honestly.
1680
01:18:26,576 --> 01:18:29,788
Um, so going into this,
1681
01:18:29,871 --> 01:18:31,915
I made a promise to myself.
1682
01:18:31,998 --> 01:18:33,917
I was like, "Look,
I'm gonna wait until marriage."
1683
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:35,919
And yes, a lot have asked me that.
1684
01:18:36,002 --> 01:18:38,171
We were even asked that in the DR.
1685
01:18:38,255 --> 01:18:40,424
Like, "Why don't you just do it and see?"
1686
01:18:40,507 --> 01:18:43,385
My thing is that that is a supplement.
1687
01:18:43,468 --> 01:18:46,012
And it's more. It's an addition to.
1688
01:18:46,596 --> 01:18:50,225
And I should not have to
first test that out
1689
01:18:50,308 --> 01:18:51,935
to then make my decision.
1690
01:18:52,519 --> 01:18:56,606
I wanted to be 100% confident,
and that was my choice.
1691
01:18:56,690 --> 01:18:59,359
Um, and so I wanted...
1692
01:18:59,443 --> 01:19:02,571
We agreed to make a promise
to ourselves and to each other,
1693
01:19:02,654 --> 01:19:04,281
and that's what we were gonna go with.
1694
01:19:04,364 --> 01:19:08,452
And it didn't really need to be tested out
to figure out where we were at.
1695
01:19:10,954 --> 01:19:13,248
-[Kenneth] Can I add something?
-I gotta ask you this.
1696
01:19:13,832 --> 01:19:16,710
-When you guys got back from the DR.
-Uh-huh.
1697
01:19:16,793 --> 01:19:20,630
You could almost hear people screaming
for you to get off of your phone!
1698
01:19:21,673 --> 01:19:22,674
When you watched it back,
1699
01:19:22,758 --> 01:19:26,052
did you realize that you were
so into your device
1700
01:19:26,136 --> 01:19:28,847
and not so much
into your fiancée in that moment?
1701
01:19:28,930 --> 01:19:31,933
So I don't wanna say that to my fiancée,
'cause I was.
1702
01:19:32,017 --> 01:19:34,603
So I wanna say that,
but what I will say is,
1703
01:19:34,686 --> 01:19:36,688
um, we all know I'm a principal, right?
1704
01:19:36,772 --> 01:19:40,525
I love my kids. I love my families
and my parents and my teachers.
1705
01:19:40,609 --> 01:19:42,569
I spent about three weeks away from them.
1706
01:19:42,652 --> 01:19:44,654
I'm a very on-the-grounds principal.
1707
01:19:44,738 --> 01:19:47,365
So what that means is I'm, like,
in classrooms, in the hallways.
1708
01:19:47,449 --> 01:19:48,408
All those things.
1709
01:19:48,492 --> 01:19:51,286
I make commitments to my families
and parents and kids every day.
1710
01:19:51,369 --> 01:19:54,873
Um, and so, having the opportunity
to reconnect with them
1711
01:19:54,956 --> 01:19:56,541
was not just for me, but also for them.
1712
01:19:56,625 --> 01:19:59,753
They're not used to having that big lapse
of absenteeism with me
1713
01:19:59,836 --> 01:20:01,379
in their communication.
1714
01:20:01,463 --> 01:20:03,548
I love my job.
It's the most precious thing to me.
1715
01:20:03,632 --> 01:20:05,342
Um, but so is my love, right?
1716
01:20:05,425 --> 01:20:09,137
So I'm trying to find the middle ground
of how you still keep your commitment
1717
01:20:09,221 --> 01:20:11,181
and still, like,
honor who you're with too.
1718
01:20:11,264 --> 01:20:14,100
Even though I was so on my phone,
I own it. I was on my phone a lot!
1719
01:20:14,184 --> 01:20:16,895
So people think that
he was either playing Candy Crush
1720
01:20:16,978 --> 01:20:18,438
or looking at pictures of dolphins.
1721
01:20:18,522 --> 01:20:21,024
-"Dolphins." [laughing]
-Yeah, that's what he was looking at.
1722
01:20:21,107 --> 01:20:23,652
It was a picture of trying
to find me in a dolphin costume, okay?
1723
01:20:23,735 --> 01:20:25,362
[laughing]
1724
01:20:25,946 --> 01:20:28,198
-[Kenneth] That has been the warrant.
-[laughing]
1725
01:20:28,281 --> 01:20:29,866
[Vanessa] I loved you posted a picture
1726
01:20:29,950 --> 01:20:33,411
with your face in a dolphin costume,
and she wrote, "I'm just dead."
1727
01:20:34,037 --> 01:20:35,413
-[Brittany] I did.
-[Nick] Kenneth.
1728
01:20:35,497 --> 01:20:37,374
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong,
1729
01:20:37,457 --> 01:20:40,752
but it didn't seem like you were
that fazed by the breakup.
1730
01:20:40,836 --> 01:20:45,465
And I think some viewers,
you know, even calling it gaslighting.
1731
01:20:45,549 --> 01:20:49,511
How do you respond to that
and to your reaction in that moment?
1732
01:20:49,594 --> 01:20:52,681
[Kenneth] Yeah. One, I can
totally understand how that looks.
1733
01:20:52,764 --> 01:20:55,892
Right? I can own,
right, how the perception is.
1734
01:20:56,476 --> 01:20:59,354
One thing I think is important
to bring to this space is
1735
01:20:59,437 --> 01:21:00,689
everyone processes differently.
1736
01:21:00,772 --> 01:21:03,859
I know, most times,
you see, like, the emotionalism come in.
1737
01:21:03,942 --> 01:21:05,694
That was there,
doesn't happen at that moment.
1738
01:21:05,777 --> 01:21:08,238
And so when people say,
like, "Oh, he just didn't care."
1739
01:21:08,321 --> 01:21:10,407
Like, no, that actually was not the case.
1740
01:21:10,490 --> 01:21:12,659
I called Clay, like, in shambles.
1741
01:21:12,742 --> 01:21:15,620
Like, "Bro, this is what happened to me."
You know what I'm saying?
1742
01:21:15,704 --> 01:21:20,333
So I think that I can understand
how it looks, but everyone's different.
1743
01:21:20,417 --> 01:21:22,669
Sure. Well, let's move on
from the past to the present.
1744
01:21:22,752 --> 01:21:25,130
Where do things stand
between the two of you now?
1745
01:21:25,213 --> 01:21:27,340
-We speak nearly every day.
-Yeah.
1746
01:21:27,424 --> 01:21:30,385
[Brittany] I get FaceTime calls at work.
I call him at work.
1747
01:21:30,468 --> 01:21:34,306
I've met people at his school
that he talks to.
1748
01:21:34,389 --> 01:21:39,394
And I think that although we are
no longer in a relationship together,
1749
01:21:39,477 --> 01:21:42,939
the bond that we have
is gonna last for an eternity.
1750
01:21:43,648 --> 01:21:45,400
Um, and I'm happy with that.
1751
01:21:46,401 --> 01:21:49,195
You know he's always got his phone,
so you can always reach him.
1752
01:21:49,279 --> 01:21:50,906
[laughing]
1753
01:21:50,989 --> 01:21:55,493
I can say our joke was, he was gonna
run down the aisle to me for sure...
1754
01:21:55,577 --> 01:21:57,370
-On my phone!
-[laughing]
1755
01:21:57,454 --> 01:21:58,580
[Kenneth] On the phone.
1756
01:21:59,247 --> 01:22:02,542
Like, "Take a picture of me,
baby, you'll have it forever."
1757
01:22:02,626 --> 01:22:05,253
You guys are friends at this point,
which I think is fantastic.
1758
01:22:05,337 --> 01:22:08,089
-[Brittany] Very much so.
-If friendship comes out of this, amazing.
1759
01:22:08,173 --> 01:22:09,883
Do you give each other dating advice?
1760
01:22:09,966 --> 01:22:12,802
Have you gotten to the place
where you're comfortable doing that?
1761
01:22:12,886 --> 01:22:15,513
-Hey, Nick!
-You wanna talk about our conversation?
1762
01:22:15,597 --> 01:22:19,351
Yeah, we actually had a conversation
the other day just about
1763
01:22:19,434 --> 01:22:22,771
when we get to the phase of,
like, really dating other people,
1764
01:22:22,854 --> 01:22:23,897
how will that affect us?
1765
01:22:23,980 --> 01:22:25,899
We're extremely close. We talk every day.
1766
01:22:25,982 --> 01:22:28,443
It's a very close-knit relationship.
1767
01:22:28,526 --> 01:22:30,195
We're also very respectful people.
1768
01:22:30,278 --> 01:22:31,529
We don't wanna offend the person
1769
01:22:31,613 --> 01:22:34,199
that we talk to because
of our rapport with each other.
1770
01:22:34,282 --> 01:22:35,492
Because we are very close,
1771
01:22:35,575 --> 01:22:38,328
but we gotta also respect
our people when do we find them.
1772
01:22:38,411 --> 01:22:39,913
Yeah, we're at a good spot.
1773
01:22:39,996 --> 01:22:42,499
It's a beautiful thing you guys are
at that place. It really is.
1774
01:22:42,582 --> 01:22:44,292
[Vanessa] We were talking
to previous cast,
1775
01:22:44,376 --> 01:22:47,420
and Nick and I were speaking,
as well, how this show has become,
1776
01:22:47,504 --> 01:22:50,590
not just for everyone watching,
but also for the people living it,
1777
01:22:50,674 --> 01:22:52,175
a little bit of therapy for all of us.
1778
01:22:52,258 --> 01:22:55,971
-Absolutely.
-Watching your guys' conversations.
1779
01:22:56,054 --> 01:22:59,766
It gave us a space
to actually start talking
1780
01:22:59,849 --> 01:23:03,061
more about things that we had been
putting on the back burner for a while.
1781
01:23:03,144 --> 01:23:04,980
And the way you spoke to each other.
1782
01:23:05,063 --> 01:23:07,440
Because, you know,
we've been together for 18 years,
1783
01:23:07,524 --> 01:23:10,610
life happens, kids, job,
and you start getting snippy.
1784
01:23:10,694 --> 01:23:14,155
And this is the person that you're
supposed to be the most respectful to,
1785
01:23:14,239 --> 01:23:15,532
and I lo... Sorry.
1786
01:23:15,615 --> 01:23:18,660
-Nothing to see here.
-I know I'm snippy. I said it.
1787
01:23:18,743 --> 01:23:22,288
-[laughing]
-I'm spicy! You know what I'm saying?
1788
01:23:22,998 --> 01:23:27,419
Um, and to watch you guys
speak to each other with so much love
1789
01:23:27,502 --> 01:23:29,004
just reminds us what it's about.
1790
01:23:29,087 --> 01:23:31,214
I was talking to Alexa and Brennon,
and they were like,
1791
01:23:31,297 --> 01:23:33,383
"Just seeing this,
seeing the communication,
1792
01:23:33,466 --> 01:23:35,760
it's why we're all here,
to find that love."
1793
01:23:35,844 --> 01:23:38,471
And regardless, to find that relationship
and that communication.
1794
01:23:38,555 --> 01:23:41,641
-So, thank you for giving us all of that.
-Yeah. Of course. Of course.
1795
01:23:41,725 --> 01:23:42,934
-Thank you.
-Yeah.
1796
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:51,985
One that has kept us on our ballet toes
from the very beginning
1797
01:23:52,068 --> 01:23:54,404
is Colleen and Matt.
1798
01:23:54,487 --> 01:23:56,489
-Hi, guys, right over here.
-Hi!
1799
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,076
Obviously, she's been doing ballet
her entire life,
1800
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,996
{\an8}but she just did Princess Aurora
in Sleeping Beauty.
1801
01:24:03,079 --> 01:24:05,957
{\an8}It was the most beautiful thing
I've seen in my life. It was incredible.
1802
01:24:06,041 --> 01:24:07,584
Yay! Congratulations!
1803
01:24:07,667 --> 01:24:09,461
[Matt] Yes, please, please.
1804
01:24:09,544 --> 01:24:10,962
[Vanessa] Thank you. Love it.
1805
01:24:11,504 --> 01:24:15,341
I just have to first say that after seeing
and experiencing everything,
1806
01:24:15,425 --> 01:24:19,512
us moving in together right after
is like a nothing burger. [laughing]
1807
01:24:19,596 --> 01:24:21,306
Like, just an afterthought.
1808
01:24:21,389 --> 01:24:24,392
'Cause everyone was harping
on the fact you were living together.
1809
01:24:24,476 --> 01:24:26,853
[Colleen] Yeah. It's like, "Okay, um..."
1810
01:24:26,936 --> 01:24:29,689
But with that said,
we have, like, moved in together.
1811
01:24:29,773 --> 01:24:30,607
[Matt] We have.
1812
01:24:30,690 --> 01:24:32,984
[Colleen] Moved into a beautiful townhome.
It's amazing.
1813
01:24:33,068 --> 01:24:34,694
Anyone who's on this couch right now
1814
01:24:34,778 --> 01:24:37,113
who feels like
they're going through a hard time,
1815
01:24:37,197 --> 01:24:40,325
like, I promise you,
you will make it out on the other side.
1816
01:24:40,408 --> 01:24:42,285
-Like, you will be okay
-For sure. For sure.
1817
01:24:42,368 --> 01:24:46,289
And we're, like, proof,
basically, that you guys will be okay.
1818
01:24:46,372 --> 01:24:47,957
-[Nick] That's great insight.
-It's good.
1819
01:24:48,041 --> 01:24:50,335
-[Nick] Great to see you doing so good.
-[Matt] Thank you.
1820
01:24:50,418 --> 01:24:52,796
Thank you guys for being here.
Yeah, I love to see it.
1821
01:24:52,879 --> 01:24:54,714
This season of Love Is Blind
also had a Matt...
1822
01:24:54,798 --> 01:24:56,633
Excuse me, a Matthew.
1823
01:24:57,300 --> 01:25:01,054
He was invited to attend this reunion,
but he politely declined.
1824
01:25:01,137 --> 01:25:04,265
I'm sure you recall Matthew was accused
of telling two women,
1825
01:25:04,349 --> 01:25:08,019
AD and Amber, the same thing in the pods,
1826
01:25:08,103 --> 01:25:10,146
but we never actually saw the receipts.
1827
01:25:10,230 --> 01:25:12,357
-So, should we watch now and see?
-[AD laughs]
1828
01:25:12,440 --> 01:25:14,192
-[Johnny] Oh, yeah!
-[Nick] Let's do it.
1829
01:25:14,275 --> 01:25:17,278
-[Vanessa] I love you saying "receipts."
-"Receipts." I know.
1830
01:25:18,822 --> 01:25:21,950
[Matthew] I thought I knew yesterday
1831
01:25:22,742 --> 01:25:24,035
who I was here for.
1832
01:25:24,119 --> 01:25:25,120
{\an8}Uh-huh.
1833
01:25:25,745 --> 01:25:26,955
{\an8}[Matthew] And...
1834
01:25:27,038 --> 01:25:29,749
{\an8}-After today with you...
-[Amber] Yeah?
1835
01:25:30,458 --> 01:25:31,376
{\an8}Oh! [laughing]
1836
01:25:31,459 --> 01:25:33,002
{\an8}[Matthew] I am not sure.
1837
01:25:34,754 --> 01:25:37,423
{\an8}-Interesting.
-Okay, Matthew. [laughs]
1838
01:25:37,507 --> 01:25:41,761
{\an8}Today just felt very right. It feels just...
1839
01:25:43,096 --> 01:25:44,764
-It feels really good.
-Yeah.
1840
01:25:45,849 --> 01:25:46,891
No, it does.
1841
01:25:47,684 --> 01:25:49,310
Well, thank you for saying that.
1842
01:25:49,811 --> 01:25:52,105
[Matthew] I'm just trying
to be as honest as I can.
1843
01:25:52,188 --> 01:25:54,607
{\an8}-[Amber] No, I like that. I like honesty.
-[AD laughs]
1844
01:25:54,691 --> 01:25:57,694
{\an8}I don't wanna tell something
to somebody else, then tell you something,
1845
01:25:57,777 --> 01:25:59,696
{\an8}-[laughing]
-[Matthew] I'm just not gonna do that.
1846
01:25:59,779 --> 01:26:02,407
{\an8}Yeah, I don't think you should.
1847
01:26:02,490 --> 01:26:05,493
{\an8}No. I guess when I think about you,
I can really see it.
1848
01:26:05,577 --> 01:26:07,078
{\an8}-Really?
-[Matthew] Yeah.
1849
01:26:07,162 --> 01:26:08,955
{\an8}Hmm. I'm smiling.
1850
01:26:09,581 --> 01:26:12,250
[Matthew] To me, yesterday, with you,
1851
01:26:12,333 --> 01:26:13,835
like, something happened.
1852
01:26:13,918 --> 01:26:15,211
{\an8}Something like what?
1853
01:26:15,295 --> 01:26:16,129
{\an8}Oh, my God!
1854
01:26:16,212 --> 01:26:17,213
{\an8}Like, a deep connection.
1855
01:26:17,297 --> 01:26:19,048
{\an8}There's a large part of me that thinks
1856
01:26:19,132 --> 01:26:21,968
{\an8}-that there's really only two outcomes.
-Wow...
1857
01:26:22,051 --> 01:26:23,219
{\an8}-[AD] Yeah?
-[sighs]
1858
01:26:23,303 --> 01:26:25,930
{\an8}-And that's either with you or not.
-Oh! [laughing]
1859
01:26:26,598 --> 01:26:28,892
{\an8}[Matthew] I'm trying to be
as honest as I can.
1860
01:26:29,475 --> 01:26:31,186
{\an8}I asked you about your dad,
1861
01:26:31,269 --> 01:26:34,439
{\an8}'cause I really don't know if I could
propose without asking permission.
1862
01:26:34,522 --> 01:26:37,609
{\an8}Aww. That is really, really thoughtful.
1863
01:26:37,692 --> 01:26:42,572
I just was hoping that I would find
a man that's ready, like, right now.
1864
01:26:42,655 --> 01:26:45,950
-If you wanna leave, I'll leave with you.
-For real?
1865
01:26:46,034 --> 01:26:48,244
{\an8}[Matthew] Yeah, I would.
You just say, "Matthew..."
1866
01:26:48,328 --> 01:26:49,954
{\an8}[AD laughing]
1867
01:26:50,038 --> 01:26:51,664
{\an8}"...let's get the hell out of here."
1868
01:26:51,748 --> 01:26:53,666
{\an8}[Amber] One thing you said today about
1869
01:26:54,250 --> 01:26:58,046
{\an8}not feeling right, like,
not asking my dad like that.
1870
01:26:58,129 --> 01:27:00,381
{\an8}It just speaks volumes, I think to,
1871
01:27:01,049 --> 01:27:02,342
{\an8}like, who you are.
1872
01:27:03,635 --> 01:27:05,762
{\an8}[Matthew] I just really appreciate
that you said that...
1873
01:27:05,845 --> 01:27:07,847
{\an8}This is insane. [laughs]
1874
01:27:07,931 --> 01:27:09,807
{\an8}...you think that's the right way to do it.
1875
01:27:09,891 --> 01:27:11,184
{\an8}'Cause if it got to it...
1876
01:27:11,976 --> 01:27:14,062
{\an8}-Yeah.
-[Matthew] And we were at the end...
1877
01:27:14,145 --> 01:27:15,313
{\an8}Yeah.
1878
01:27:15,396 --> 01:27:18,399
{\an8}[Matthew] ...I would tell 'em, "I'm not
doing it unless I talk to her dad."
1879
01:27:18,483 --> 01:27:20,026
{\an8}-So...
-[Amber] Mm.
1880
01:27:20,109 --> 01:27:21,819
{\an8}You want me on the show.
1881
01:27:21,903 --> 01:27:23,780
{\an8}You want us to do these things, fine.
1882
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,324
{\an8}-[Amber] Mm.
-But that's... I don't care.
1883
01:27:27,325 --> 01:27:28,326
{\an8}[Amber] I appreciate that.
1884
01:27:28,409 --> 01:27:31,955
{\an8}And, honestly, I would leave too.
1885
01:27:32,538 --> 01:27:33,790
{\an8}[Matthew] Okay.
1886
01:27:33,873 --> 01:27:34,958
[Amber] Yeah.
1887
01:27:35,041 --> 01:27:37,669
[Vanessa] You think he was saying
the same thing to both of you?
1888
01:27:38,253 --> 01:27:40,046
-Well, yeah.
-[all laughing]
1889
01:27:40,129 --> 01:27:41,714
Yeah, absolutely.
1890
01:27:41,798 --> 01:27:44,842
I felt all of your, and heard,
your emotions during watching that.
1891
01:27:44,926 --> 01:27:46,594
-[AD] Yeah.
-What are your thoughts on that?
1892
01:27:47,095 --> 01:27:49,722
It wasn't that he was saying
the same thing to both of us,
1893
01:27:49,806 --> 01:27:51,683
it was the fact that
I had shared something
1894
01:27:51,766 --> 01:27:54,060
so intimate about my father passing.
1895
01:27:54,143 --> 01:27:56,729
And, you know,
there's moments that I just won't have.
1896
01:27:56,813 --> 01:27:59,274
Like, I won't have my future husband
1897
01:27:59,357 --> 01:28:01,025
get to ask for my hand in marriage.
1898
01:28:01,109 --> 01:28:05,238
And I won't have my father
walk me, um, down the aisle.
1899
01:28:05,321 --> 01:28:08,658
So when she comes in
and she has the same story
1900
01:28:08,741 --> 01:28:11,494
as far as, like, the dad thing,
that's what really rocked me,
1901
01:28:11,577 --> 01:28:14,497
'cause I was like,
"Well, my story is obsolete then."
1902
01:28:14,580 --> 01:28:17,250
Did you ever reconnect with Matthew
1903
01:28:17,333 --> 01:28:19,544
in the real world after the show?
1904
01:28:21,004 --> 01:28:23,006
-I did. [laughs]
-[man whispers] Oh, shit.
1905
01:28:23,089 --> 01:28:24,173
[woman 26] Oh, no.
1906
01:28:24,257 --> 01:28:26,884
-[Nick] Okay. Okay.
-[Clay] Mm.
1907
01:28:26,968 --> 01:28:28,011
[Vanessa] Okay, so...
1908
01:28:28,094 --> 01:28:31,764
[Nick] What can you tell us about
the little pistachio of Matthew?
1909
01:28:31,848 --> 01:28:35,018
-Did you crack him that night?
-Um... [sighs]
1910
01:28:36,185 --> 01:28:37,770
[laughing]
1911
01:28:37,854 --> 01:28:40,148
He's, like, drilling a hole
in the side of my head.
1912
01:28:40,231 --> 01:28:42,775
-[Vanessa] Does Clay not know?
-[Nick] Is this news to you, Clay?
1913
01:28:42,859 --> 01:28:44,944
-[clears throat] No, it's not.
-[Vanessa] Okay.
1914
01:28:45,028 --> 01:28:47,613
-She told me that she met with Matthew.
-Okay.
1915
01:28:47,697 --> 01:28:50,742
Matthew and I, we went on a few dates.
1916
01:28:51,784 --> 01:28:55,705
-[Vanessa] How many?
-Um, like, two. Two-ish.
1917
01:28:55,788 --> 01:28:58,458
Well, the first one,
he wanted to apologize to me.
1918
01:28:58,541 --> 01:28:59,834
He was heartbroken.
1919
01:28:59,917 --> 01:29:03,254
He was very, very upset
about the way everything played out
1920
01:29:03,338 --> 01:29:05,673
and the way he felt like
he kind of played both of our faces.
1921
01:29:05,757 --> 01:29:09,260
So the first one, he really wanted
to take the time and apologize.
1922
01:29:09,344 --> 01:29:11,804
And I was, like,
"You know, Matthew's kind of cute."
1923
01:29:11,888 --> 01:29:14,015
Like, low-key, he's cute, y'all, like...
1924
01:29:14,599 --> 01:29:17,185
-Respectfully.
-[laughing]
1925
01:29:17,810 --> 01:29:22,023
Um, anyway, so then we did go
on a second date, um...
1926
01:29:23,149 --> 01:29:26,736
And he ended up cooking me dinner.
1927
01:29:27,612 --> 01:29:29,238
[Nick] How is his cooking? A good cook?
1928
01:29:29,322 --> 01:29:31,574
-It was rice and chicken.
-[Nick] Oh.
1929
01:29:31,657 --> 01:29:33,868
-[laughing]
-Nothing special.
1930
01:29:33,951 --> 01:29:35,787
[Nick, AD] A for effort.
1931
01:29:35,870 --> 01:29:38,373
So... that fizzled out?
1932
01:29:38,456 --> 01:29:41,459
It did. We live
two completely different lifestyles.
1933
01:29:41,542 --> 01:29:43,169
He's very disciplined.
1934
01:29:43,252 --> 01:29:45,671
Not like I'm not, but he's,
like, extremely to the clock.
1935
01:29:45,755 --> 01:29:47,840
Like, every minute is planned out.
1936
01:29:47,924 --> 01:29:51,010
Whereas I'm kind of, like,
you know, with the wind a little bit.
1937
01:29:51,094 --> 01:29:53,805
Um, and he just wants different things,
and so do I.
1938
01:29:53,888 --> 01:29:55,681
And we left it right there.
1939
01:29:56,682 --> 01:29:59,185
Clay, you wanna go run some laps
and get this out of your system?
1940
01:29:59,268 --> 01:30:00,269
[laughing]
1941
01:30:01,020 --> 01:30:02,855
Hey, at the end of the day,
it's an experiment.
1942
01:30:02,939 --> 01:30:05,858
Um, you know,
and Matt did it the way he did it.
1943
01:30:05,942 --> 01:30:08,861
I'm not here to kick Matt's back.
He's not here in front of my face.
1944
01:30:08,945 --> 01:30:11,823
He obviously met up with AD.
Seems like it was respectful.
1945
01:30:11,906 --> 01:30:15,451
So at the end of the day, respect to Matt.
I have nothing disrespectful to say.
1946
01:30:15,952 --> 01:30:17,620
[Vanessa] I love it. Thank you, guys.
1947
01:30:17,703 --> 01:30:19,664
Well, we always love a good love story.
1948
01:30:20,289 --> 01:30:22,917
And one of our couples who is returning
1949
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,044
is Chelsea and Kwame.
1950
01:30:25,128 --> 01:30:27,463
{\an8}-Hi, guys.
-Hi.
1951
01:30:28,589 --> 01:30:29,632
Whoop-whoop!
1952
01:30:31,467 --> 01:30:33,469
You all had a very happy ending.
1953
01:30:33,553 --> 01:30:35,763
-Oh, yeah.
-You called it a fairy tale.
1954
01:30:36,514 --> 01:30:37,849
How are y'all doing?
1955
01:30:37,932 --> 01:30:39,559
-We are doing great.
-[laughs]
1956
01:30:39,642 --> 01:30:42,478
We are so proud and happy,
almost two years of marriage,
1957
01:30:42,562 --> 01:30:45,857
which is crazy,
but it feels like ten. [laughing]
1958
01:30:45,940 --> 01:30:48,693
-[woman 27] Whoo-wee!
-[woman 28] Yay!
1959
01:30:48,776 --> 01:30:51,154
Back in the day, I remember
Kwame talking about the sacrifices
1960
01:30:51,237 --> 01:30:52,989
he was having to make for your marriage
1961
01:30:53,072 --> 01:30:56,409
and how much he wanted
a somewhat nomadic lifestyle.
1962
01:30:56,492 --> 01:30:58,703
And, Chelsea,
I hear you have a big job shift
1963
01:30:58,786 --> 01:31:01,372
that's allowed maybe
more of that to happen.
1964
01:31:01,456 --> 01:31:02,957
You care to share anything about that?
1965
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:05,751
Absolutely. I have
an amazing privilege and honor
1966
01:31:05,835 --> 01:31:08,045
to help cast for Love Is Blind.
1967
01:31:08,129 --> 01:31:10,131
-[cheering]
-[Chelsea 1] Thank you.
1968
01:31:10,214 --> 01:31:11,591
[man 2] Whoo!
1969
01:31:11,674 --> 01:31:16,345
And it has been incredibly fulfilling
for me and so special to be a part of it.
1970
01:31:16,429 --> 01:31:20,183
And I get to talk
to brave, bold, courageous singles
1971
01:31:20,266 --> 01:31:21,726
all over the United States
1972
01:31:21,809 --> 01:31:23,978
that may make the leap that we all did.
1973
01:31:24,061 --> 01:31:27,106
And it has been important
and meaningful work for me,
1974
01:31:27,190 --> 01:31:31,235
and it has opened up a lifestyle
that has allowed us to travel
1975
01:31:31,319 --> 01:31:35,198
and have more of kind of
that free spirit in our day to day,
1976
01:31:35,281 --> 01:31:37,950
and it's been truly a blessing for us.
1977
01:31:39,702 --> 01:31:41,287
[Nick] So you get to travel more.
1978
01:31:41,370 --> 01:31:43,706
Where's the most exciting place
you've traveled recently?
1979
01:31:43,789 --> 01:31:44,832
We've done a lot.
1980
01:31:44,916 --> 01:31:47,835
I mean, our honeymoon was to Italy...
1981
01:31:48,294 --> 01:31:51,005
-Um, Greece.
-Greece, Türkiye.
1982
01:31:51,088 --> 01:31:53,633
Türkiye! Uh, incredible trip overall.
1983
01:31:53,716 --> 01:31:58,221
But I would say,
despite those being kind of the amazing,
1984
01:31:58,304 --> 01:31:59,722
scenic, special trips,
1985
01:31:59,805 --> 01:32:02,725
I think the ones that mean the most
are the ones we get to take,
1986
01:32:02,808 --> 01:32:04,519
uh, back East Coast.
1987
01:32:04,602 --> 01:32:06,938
Go to DC and go see my family.
We spent a lot of time.
1988
01:32:07,021 --> 01:32:10,441
Um, Chelsea's bonded really closely
with my nieces and my nephew.
1989
01:32:10,525 --> 01:32:12,485
We have Halloweens together
where we dress up.
1990
01:32:12,568 --> 01:32:14,487
We were all superheroes together.
1991
01:32:14,570 --> 01:32:16,948
[Kwame] So I mean,
we've done a lot of really cool things.
1992
01:32:17,031 --> 01:32:19,367
But I think, like,
those are the most meaningful trips.
1993
01:32:19,450 --> 01:32:21,118
We're going to Hawaii tomorrow, so...
1994
01:32:21,202 --> 01:32:22,495
-[Vanessa] Wait.
-Ooh!
1995
01:32:22,578 --> 01:32:24,580
-Nick, if you're home...
-[Nick] Stay at the house!
1996
01:32:24,664 --> 01:32:25,831
-[laughing]
-[Vanessa] Yeah!
1997
01:32:25,915 --> 01:32:27,458
-[Nick] We got you.
-[Vanessa] I love it.
1998
01:32:27,542 --> 01:32:30,086
Thank you guys so much for sharing.
See you in Hawaii.
1999
01:32:30,169 --> 01:32:31,754
-[Chelsea 1] See ya.
-Do your shakas.
2000
01:32:31,837 --> 01:32:33,464
[laughing]
2001
01:32:33,548 --> 01:32:35,883
[cheering]
2002
01:32:35,967 --> 01:32:39,971
So right next to you,
I'm watching Micah and Izzy kind of...
2003
01:32:40,054 --> 01:32:42,139
Something seems to be going on over there.
2004
01:32:42,223 --> 01:32:45,351
-Um, you guys have a little announcement.
-[Micah] A little?
2005
01:32:45,434 --> 01:32:48,980
Should this be the time
for them to share that with everybody?
2006
01:32:49,772 --> 01:32:50,815
{\an8}Do you wanna share?
2007
01:32:50,898 --> 01:32:52,441
{\an8}Izzy, do you wanna tell 'em?
2008
01:32:52,525 --> 01:32:54,360
[Izzy] I think you should tell them.
2009
01:32:55,152 --> 01:32:59,198
{\an8}So Izzy and I are actually gonna be
on the next season of Perfect Match.
2010
01:32:59,282 --> 01:33:01,659
-[laughing]
-[cheering]
2011
01:33:03,995 --> 01:33:06,038
-[man 3] Hey! Hey!
-[Micah] Very excited for it.
2012
01:33:06,539 --> 01:33:08,666
That's right. Micah and Izzy
will actually be joining me
2013
01:33:08,749 --> 01:33:12,128
on the next season of Perfect Match,
coming this summer along with...
2014
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:15,590
{\an8}-Jessica, who's joining us.
-[all laughing]
2015
01:33:15,673 --> 01:33:17,675
{\an8}[cheering]
2016
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:20,094
[Nick] Guys, I had so much fun
being a part of season one.
2017
01:33:20,177 --> 01:33:23,180
It's really exciting to have you
be a part of season two.
2018
01:33:23,264 --> 01:33:24,640
So thank you very much.
2019
01:33:25,308 --> 01:33:28,144
Something that happens
with the Love Is Blind community
2020
01:33:28,227 --> 01:33:30,896
is the friendships, the sisterhood,
2021
01:33:30,980 --> 01:33:33,482
the brotherhood,
the relationships that build.
2022
01:33:33,566 --> 01:33:36,944
And Jessica, you and Micah have bonded.
2023
01:33:37,028 --> 01:33:40,615
Yeah, I feel like it's hard for people
to imagine someone that looks like that
2024
01:33:40,698 --> 01:33:43,951
could have, like, a heart of true gold,
2025
01:33:44,035 --> 01:33:48,205
but I've never in my life
met someone who is so kind,
2026
01:33:48,289 --> 01:33:49,874
such an amazing mother
2027
01:33:49,957 --> 01:33:54,837
and one of the biggest rocks
I've ever had in my entire life.
2028
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:56,964
And she's gonna make
someone very happy some day.
2029
01:33:57,048 --> 01:33:58,424
-[laughs]
-[Nick] I second that.
2030
01:33:58,507 --> 01:34:00,551
[Micah] Whoever that guy is,
he's gonna be very lucky.
2031
01:34:00,635 --> 01:34:03,304
-Aww.
-Aww. Thank you, friend. Thank you.
2032
01:34:03,387 --> 01:34:06,515
So, Izzy, what's been going on with you
since the last time we saw you?
2033
01:34:06,599 --> 01:34:07,516
Catch us up.
2034
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:10,895
[sighs] Not much, man,
just enjoying life, been traveling.
2035
01:34:10,978 --> 01:34:15,274
And I think the best part of it all
is the credit's fixed, you know?
2036
01:34:15,358 --> 01:34:18,194
-[laughing]
-[Izzy] We're here, baby! We're here!
2037
01:34:18,277 --> 01:34:19,987
-[man 4] Oh, man.
-[woman 29] Yay!
2038
01:34:20,571 --> 01:34:22,281
-[woman 30] Izzy!
-[Izzy shouts indistinctly]
2039
01:34:22,365 --> 01:34:23,199
[cheering]
2040
01:34:23,282 --> 01:34:26,035
-[Izzy] Come on!
-[laughing]
2041
01:34:26,118 --> 01:34:27,995
[Nick] Dinner's on Izzy tonight!
2042
01:34:28,079 --> 01:34:30,247
I can't complain, man. Life's been great.
2043
01:34:30,331 --> 01:34:33,209
[Vanessa] I love it.
Well, we wanna end this on a happy note
2044
01:34:33,292 --> 01:34:37,088
and kind of ask you guys what was
your favorite part through this process.
2045
01:34:37,171 --> 01:34:39,590
What do you miss most
about being on Love Is Blind?
2046
01:34:39,674 --> 01:34:43,094
I mean, you're the OGs now,
the Original Gangstas.
2047
01:34:43,177 --> 01:34:47,264
[splutters] Mish La... Mish La... Miss Lachey...
2048
01:34:47,348 --> 01:34:48,224
[laughing]
2049
01:34:48,307 --> 01:34:51,060
-[Izzy] Take the wine away!
-[Brennon] Like you said, it's therapy.
2050
01:34:51,143 --> 01:34:53,104
That "Love Is Wine" is too good!
2051
01:34:53,187 --> 01:34:54,730
[laughing]
2052
01:34:54,814 --> 01:34:56,023
{\an8}[Brennon] Y'all are great!
2053
01:34:56,107 --> 01:34:58,984
{\an8}And watching the show back,
it's like therapy, we love it.
2054
01:34:59,068 --> 01:35:00,403
[Vanessa] Did you say you'd miss...
2055
01:35:00,486 --> 01:35:04,782
No, it's like therapy...
Watching the show is like therapy.
2056
01:35:04,865 --> 01:35:06,784
We talk, and we pause it, and we talk.
2057
01:35:06,867 --> 01:35:10,621
And kind of just dive into everything.
2058
01:35:10,705 --> 01:35:12,748
And thank y'all for sharing y'all stories.
2059
01:35:12,832 --> 01:35:14,959
I miss production.
Production was always so great.
2060
01:35:15,042 --> 01:35:17,294
[Vanessa] What are y'all gonna miss
about this whole ride?
2061
01:35:17,378 --> 01:35:19,505
Ms. Lachey, the food.
2062
01:35:19,588 --> 01:35:21,799
-I miss the food.
-[Vanessa] The food?
2063
01:35:21,882 --> 01:35:23,092
Well, on that note...
2064
01:35:23,175 --> 01:35:24,385
Clay?
2065
01:35:24,468 --> 01:35:26,971
Did I see a video
of you microwaving Gatorade?
2066
01:35:27,054 --> 01:35:29,390
-[laughing]
-Yeah, what was that?
2067
01:35:29,473 --> 01:35:30,307
[woman 31] What?
2068
01:35:30,391 --> 01:35:33,060
-Honestly, uh... [clears throat]
-[laughing]
2069
01:35:33,644 --> 01:35:37,732
I would just tell America
that I would never put liquid
2070
01:35:37,815 --> 01:35:40,025
in a plastic in a microwave.
2071
01:35:42,194 --> 01:35:43,696
These mugs really good, man.
2072
01:35:45,281 --> 01:35:47,450
Noodles and red sauce.
2073
01:35:47,533 --> 01:35:49,535
[beeps]
2074
01:35:50,870 --> 01:35:53,247
[Vanessa] It may have been
an optical illusion, a reflection.
2075
01:35:53,330 --> 01:35:55,791
-I think so too.
-[Vanessa] You do not microwave Gatorade.
2076
01:35:55,875 --> 01:35:58,043
[Nick] You cannot believe
everything you read out there.
2077
01:35:58,127 --> 01:36:01,130
I mean, guys, I, for one, am starving.
Do you guys wanna dive in?
2078
01:36:01,213 --> 01:36:02,214
Let's do it!
2079
01:36:02,298 --> 01:36:04,842
Thank you to the Love Is Blind family
for returning today.
2080
01:36:04,925 --> 01:36:06,761
Thank you to our season six friends
2081
01:36:06,844 --> 01:36:09,096
for opening your hearts
and sharing your journeys with us.
2082
01:36:09,180 --> 01:36:13,267
We cannot wait to see you all back here
on our couches at a future reunion.
2083
01:36:13,350 --> 01:36:15,102
Just like our OGs. Thank you to our OGs.
2084
01:36:15,186 --> 01:36:18,147
Yep, and thank you all very much.
Here's to love!
2085
01:36:18,230 --> 01:36:22,651
-The search, the journey...
-[Vanessa] And happy endings!
2086
01:36:22,735 --> 01:36:25,404
-[Nick] We'll see you next time!
-[cheering]
2087
01:36:25,488 --> 01:36:28,282
-[pop music playing]
-♪ Live my life... ♪
2088
01:36:28,365 --> 01:36:30,034
-[shouts]
-[Clay] Ready?
2089
01:36:30,576 --> 01:36:32,369
-I'm not above you.
-[all] I'm not above you.
2090
01:36:32,453 --> 01:36:34,622
-I'm not below you.
-[all] I'm not below you.
2091
01:36:34,705 --> 01:36:37,291
-I'm right here with you.
-[all] I'm right here with you.
2092
01:36:37,374 --> 01:36:39,794
[cheering]
2093
01:36:40,377 --> 01:36:43,172
-♪ Live my life ♪
-[vocalizing]
2094
01:36:45,132 --> 01:36:46,467
♪ Live my life ♪
2095
01:36:46,550 --> 01:36:49,470
[vocalizing]
2096
01:36:54,683 --> 01:36:56,477
♪ Live my life ♪
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