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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:10,000 - Original file by zfeet - - Resynced by Ornlu Wolfjarl - 2 00:00:17,832 --> 00:00:19,665 ROGER HARRIS: Soldiers adapt. 3 00:00:19,766 --> 00:00:21,833 You go over there with one mindset, you know, 4 00:00:21,933 --> 00:00:23,366 and then you adapt. 5 00:00:23,467 --> 00:00:25,468 You adapt to the atrocities of war. 6 00:00:25,568 --> 00:00:27,034 You adapt to... 7 00:00:29,402 --> 00:00:33,602 ...killing and dying, you know. 8 00:00:33,702 --> 00:00:35,603 After a while it doesn't bother you. 9 00:00:38,404 --> 00:00:40,364 Well, I should say it doesn't bother you as much. 10 00:00:41,770 --> 00:00:45,238 When I first arrived in Vietnam, there were some... 11 00:00:45,337 --> 00:00:46,506 (sighs) 12 00:00:46,605 --> 00:00:48,115 there were some interesting things that happened 13 00:00:48,139 --> 00:00:51,372 and I questioned some of the Marines. 14 00:00:51,473 --> 00:00:56,107 I was made to realize that this is war, and this is what we do. 15 00:00:57,707 --> 00:00:59,373 And that stuck in my head. 16 00:00:59,474 --> 00:01:00,474 This is war. 17 00:01:00,541 --> 00:01:02,642 This is what we do. 18 00:01:02,742 --> 00:01:06,476 And after a while you embrace that. 19 00:01:08,243 --> 00:01:09,976 This is war. 20 00:01:10,076 --> 00:01:11,443 This is what we do. 21 00:01:11,544 --> 00:01:14,077 ("Are You Experienced?" by the Jimi Hendrix Experience playing) 22 00:01:25,678 --> 00:01:28,713 This evening I came here to speak to you about Vietnam. 23 00:01:28,814 --> 00:01:31,780 There is progress in the war itself, 24 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,180 rather dramatic progress considering the situation 25 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,916 that actually prevailed when we sent our troops there in 1965. 26 00:01:40,016 --> 00:01:44,349 The grip of the Viet Cong on the people is being broken. 27 00:01:44,449 --> 00:01:49,984 HENDRIX: d If you can just get your mind together d 28 00:01:50,084 --> 00:01:51,084 (rapid gunfire) 29 00:01:51,151 --> 00:01:56,218 d Then come across to me 30 00:01:56,319 --> 00:01:58,986 NARRATOR: In the summer of 1967, 31 00:01:59,086 --> 00:02:01,521 the men overseeing the war in Vietnam 32 00:02:01,620 --> 00:02:03,654 remained outwardly optimistic... 33 00:02:03,754 --> 00:02:07,454 whatever private doubts they may have held. 34 00:02:07,555 --> 00:02:10,055 HENDRIX: d But first 35 00:02:10,155 --> 00:02:13,023 d Are you experienced? 36 00:02:13,122 --> 00:02:14,389 (airplane flying overhead) 37 00:02:14,489 --> 00:02:15,523 (explosion) 38 00:02:15,622 --> 00:02:19,657 d Have you ever been experienced? d 39 00:02:19,757 --> 00:02:24,057 NARRATOR: The American military command in Vietnam, MACV, 40 00:02:24,158 --> 00:02:27,625 claimed to have killed 200,000 enemy troops 41 00:02:27,725 --> 00:02:29,492 and had told the president 42 00:02:29,591 --> 00:02:32,627 that the all-important "crossover point"... 43 00:02:32,726 --> 00:02:35,926 the moment when U.S. and ARVN forces were killing 44 00:02:36,027 --> 00:02:39,093 more Viet Cong and North Vietnamese troops 45 00:02:39,193 --> 00:02:42,694 than the enemy could replace... appeared to have been reached 46 00:02:42,795 --> 00:02:45,762 in almost all of South Vietnam. 47 00:02:45,861 --> 00:02:48,130 But the United States had suffered 48 00:02:48,229 --> 00:02:51,930 nearly 75,000 casualties. 49 00:02:52,031 --> 00:02:58,498 By July 4, 14,624 Americans had died, 50 00:02:58,598 --> 00:03:00,265 and, off the record, 51 00:03:00,364 --> 00:03:04,799 many officers were much less sanguine than their commanders. 52 00:03:04,898 --> 00:03:10,300 From Saigon, R.W. Apple of theNew York Time s summarized 53 00:03:10,399 --> 00:03:15,068 their views: "Victory is not close at hand," he wrote. 54 00:03:15,167 --> 00:03:18,968 In fact, "It may be beyond reach." 55 00:03:19,069 --> 00:03:23,969 ("Are You Experienced?" by the Jimi Hendrix Experience playing) 56 00:03:27,070 --> 00:03:29,004 (rapid gunfire) 57 00:03:29,103 --> 00:03:31,538 It was true that the enemy rarely won a battle 58 00:03:31,638 --> 00:03:34,471 in the traditional military sense that they drove 59 00:03:34,572 --> 00:03:36,505 the Americans from the field. 60 00:03:36,604 --> 00:03:39,872 But it was also true that no American victory 61 00:03:39,972 --> 00:03:41,705 seemed to matter. 62 00:03:41,806 --> 00:03:47,373 Battered enemy units were quickly reinforced and rearmed. 63 00:03:47,474 --> 00:03:51,042 Pacification... winning the hearts and minds 64 00:03:51,142 --> 00:03:54,809 of the South Vietnamese people... was not working. 65 00:03:54,908 --> 00:03:59,209 Saigon still controlled only a fraction of a country 66 00:03:59,310 --> 00:04:01,310 roughly the size of Florida, 67 00:04:01,409 --> 00:04:03,177 and its government remained 68 00:04:03,278 --> 00:04:07,511 unpopular and riddled with corruption. 69 00:04:07,611 --> 00:04:11,211 President Johnson had been forced to raise taxes 70 00:04:11,312 --> 00:04:14,712 to meet the war's ever-climbing cost. 71 00:04:14,813 --> 00:04:18,947 His ambitious social program... his War on Poverty... 72 00:04:19,048 --> 00:04:21,581 was in retreat. 73 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:26,481 HENDRIX: d Trumpets and violins I can hear in the distance d 74 00:04:26,582 --> 00:04:31,482 NARRATOR: That summer, racial unrest would grip American cities. 75 00:04:31,583 --> 00:04:34,983 HENDRIX: d Maybe now you can't hear them d 76 00:04:35,084 --> 00:04:37,017 d But you will 77 00:04:37,116 --> 00:04:41,152 NARRATOR: The president would have to send the Army into Detroit 78 00:04:41,251 --> 00:04:43,452 to end five days of rioting 79 00:04:43,553 --> 00:04:47,885 that left 43 dead and hundreds of buildings razed. 80 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,087 Twenty-six more died in Newark, New Jersey, 81 00:04:53,187 --> 00:04:55,788 demonstrating yet again how wide a gap 82 00:04:55,887 --> 00:05:00,421 remained between black and white Americans. 83 00:05:00,522 --> 00:05:06,323 Only a third of the country saw any sign of progress in Vietnam, 84 00:05:06,422 --> 00:05:09,457 and half of the country now disapproved 85 00:05:09,558 --> 00:05:13,825 of the president's handling of the war. 86 00:05:13,924 --> 00:05:17,059 Meanwhile, Le Duan and his comrades 87 00:05:17,159 --> 00:05:20,459 who ran things in Hanoi, were secretly planning 88 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:25,094 a new offensive that they believed would destroy 89 00:05:25,193 --> 00:05:28,027 what they called the puppet government in Saigon 90 00:05:28,126 --> 00:05:31,894 and convince the United States the war could never be won 91 00:05:31,994 --> 00:05:34,829 on the battlefield. 92 00:05:36,695 --> 00:05:39,763 JAMES WILLBANKS: There's the old apocryphal story that, in 1967, 93 00:05:39,864 --> 00:05:41,830 they went to the basement of the Pentagon 94 00:05:41,929 --> 00:05:44,170 when the mainframe computers took up the whole basement, 95 00:05:44,230 --> 00:05:46,365 and they put on the old punch cards everything 96 00:05:46,464 --> 00:05:47,984 you could quantify... numbers of ships, 97 00:05:48,065 --> 00:05:50,407 numbers of airplanes, numbers of tanks, numbers of helicopters, 98 00:05:50,431 --> 00:05:54,300 artillery, machine gun, ammo... everything you could quantify, 99 00:05:54,399 --> 00:05:57,432 put it in the hopper and said, "When will we win in Vietnam?" 100 00:05:57,533 --> 00:05:59,168 Went away on Friday. 101 00:05:59,267 --> 00:06:01,200 The thing ground away all weekend. 102 00:06:01,301 --> 00:06:04,268 Came back on Monday and there was one card in the output tray 103 00:06:04,369 --> 00:06:07,268 and it said, "You won in 1965." 104 00:06:07,369 --> 00:06:09,202 The only problem is the enemy gets a vote 105 00:06:09,303 --> 00:06:10,935 and they weren't on the punch cards. 106 00:06:18,804 --> 00:06:23,172 NARRATOR: There were nearly half a million American soldiers in Vietnam 107 00:06:23,271 --> 00:06:25,505 by the middle of 1967, 108 00:06:25,606 --> 00:06:28,306 with thousands more on the way. 109 00:06:28,405 --> 00:06:32,706 Only 20% would ever be in combat. 110 00:06:32,807 --> 00:06:36,308 The rest served in support units. 111 00:06:36,407 --> 00:06:40,008 None of them had been taught very much about the people 112 00:06:40,109 --> 00:06:42,941 against whom... and for whom... they had been asked to fight. 113 00:06:45,009 --> 00:06:47,875 Troops called the Vietnamese "gooks"... 114 00:06:47,976 --> 00:06:51,278 a term first used by U.S. Marines to refer 115 00:06:51,376 --> 00:06:53,611 to the people of Haiti and Nicaragua 116 00:06:53,711 --> 00:06:57,311 during the American occupation of those countries, 117 00:06:57,411 --> 00:07:01,180 and then applied to the Asian enemy in Korea. 118 00:07:01,280 --> 00:07:06,246 Or "slopes," an epithet for the Japanese during the Pacific War, 119 00:07:06,346 --> 00:07:11,282 or "dinks," an Australian term for the Chinese. 120 00:07:11,381 --> 00:07:13,981 And so in basic training they taught you 121 00:07:14,082 --> 00:07:16,249 that you were going to be fighting gooks. 122 00:07:16,348 --> 00:07:19,249 It was part of the song that you sang 123 00:07:19,348 --> 00:07:21,550 as you jogged down the road. 124 00:07:21,650 --> 00:07:23,916 As you went through bayonet training, 125 00:07:24,016 --> 00:07:26,317 you were not talking about Vietnamese. 126 00:07:26,417 --> 00:07:29,718 You were always talking about gooks. 127 00:07:29,818 --> 00:07:33,318 Vietnamese might be people, but gooks are-are... 128 00:07:33,418 --> 00:07:34,819 are close to being animals. 129 00:07:34,919 --> 00:07:39,187 NARRATOR: Gis called Vietnamese homes "hooches"... 130 00:07:39,287 --> 00:07:42,188 a corruption of the Japanese word for dwelling places 131 00:07:42,288 --> 00:07:45,555 that they had learned during the battle for Okinawa 132 00:07:45,655 --> 00:07:47,854 in the Second World War. 133 00:07:47,954 --> 00:07:53,123 Soldiers referred to older Vietnamese women as "mama sans," 134 00:07:53,223 --> 00:07:55,823 the term they used for women who ran whorehouses 135 00:07:55,923 --> 00:07:58,724 in occupied Japan. 136 00:07:58,823 --> 00:08:01,658 The Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese 137 00:08:01,757 --> 00:08:06,025 called Gis "invaders," "imperialists," 138 00:08:06,126 --> 00:08:07,858 and (speaking Vietnamese)... 139 00:08:07,958 --> 00:08:09,858 "American bandits." 140 00:08:15,060 --> 00:08:19,827 South Vietnam had been divided into four tactical zones. 141 00:08:19,927 --> 00:08:24,262 By the summer of 1967, American troops were fighting 142 00:08:24,361 --> 00:08:26,029 in all four of them. 143 00:08:28,396 --> 00:08:31,164 In IV Corps, the "Brown Water Navy" 144 00:08:31,264 --> 00:08:34,030 patrolled the rivers and canals and marshes 145 00:08:34,131 --> 00:08:37,331 of the densely populated Mekong Delta, 146 00:08:37,431 --> 00:08:40,566 searching for the enemy. 147 00:08:40,666 --> 00:08:45,300 In III Corps, the Army continued to sweep the thick jungles 148 00:08:45,399 --> 00:08:48,866 of the Iron Triangle, the Viet Cong sanctuary 149 00:08:48,966 --> 00:08:52,534 near Saigon that was supposed to have been permanently denied 150 00:08:52,635 --> 00:08:58,069 to the enemy by big American operations earlier in the year. 151 00:08:58,169 --> 00:09:01,336 In II Corps, a series of bloody battles 152 00:09:01,436 --> 00:09:06,071 in the Central Highlands around Dak To temporarily drove 153 00:09:06,171 --> 00:09:11,306 North Vietnamese troops back into Cambodia and Laos. 154 00:09:11,405 --> 00:09:15,939 But some of the most intense combat would take place 155 00:09:16,039 --> 00:09:20,406 in I Corps... made up of the five northernmost provinces 156 00:09:20,506 --> 00:09:23,540 of South Vietnam... where the Marines would bear 157 00:09:23,641 --> 00:09:25,974 the brunt of the fighting. 158 00:09:26,075 --> 00:09:29,374 More than two-and-a-half million people lived there, 159 00:09:29,474 --> 00:09:31,610 all but 2% of them within 160 00:09:31,710 --> 00:09:34,009 the narrow rice-growing river valleys 161 00:09:34,110 --> 00:09:36,811 along the South China Sea. 162 00:09:36,910 --> 00:09:40,677 The Marines wanted to eradicate the Viet Cong there, 163 00:09:40,777 --> 00:09:43,078 and provide security to the people, 164 00:09:43,178 --> 00:09:46,044 village by village, hamlet by hamlet. 165 00:09:46,146 --> 00:09:49,813 The vast, largely empty highlands that stretched 166 00:09:49,912 --> 00:09:53,147 westward all the way to Laos, the Marines argued, 167 00:09:53,247 --> 00:09:56,013 could be left to the enemy. 168 00:09:56,114 --> 00:09:58,615 "The real war is among the people," 169 00:09:58,715 --> 00:10:01,582 said Marine lieutenant general Victor Krulak, 170 00:10:01,682 --> 00:10:04,316 "and not among the mountains." 171 00:10:04,415 --> 00:10:06,817 But General William Westmoreland, 172 00:10:06,916 --> 00:10:09,916 the American commander, feared that thousands 173 00:10:10,016 --> 00:10:13,818 of North Vietnamese Army regulars... the NVA... 174 00:10:13,917 --> 00:10:18,119 were planning to seize the two northernmost provinces. 175 00:10:18,219 --> 00:10:23,385 Finding and destroying them remained his first goal. 176 00:10:23,485 --> 00:10:25,052 (helicopter blades beating) 177 00:10:25,153 --> 00:10:27,953 He insisted the Third Marine Division 178 00:10:28,053 --> 00:10:30,287 move north to meet that challenge, 179 00:10:30,386 --> 00:10:35,788 establish a base at Dong Ha and man strongpoints at Gio Linh, 180 00:10:35,887 --> 00:10:43,290 Con Thien, Cam Lo, Camp Carroll, the Rockpile and Khe Sanh. 181 00:10:43,389 --> 00:10:46,990 Khe Sanh overlooked Route 9, the East-West highway 182 00:10:47,091 --> 00:10:50,725 that Westmoreland hoped would one day carry American troops 183 00:10:50,825 --> 00:10:54,826 across the border into Laos, where North Vietnamese men 184 00:10:54,925 --> 00:10:58,760 and supplies were streaming south on the Ho Chi Minh Trail. 185 00:11:02,161 --> 00:11:05,161 But the thousands of Marines monitoring the border 186 00:11:05,261 --> 00:11:08,361 would find themselves within range of highly accurate 187 00:11:08,461 --> 00:11:12,096 North Vietnamese artillery and rocket launchers 188 00:11:12,196 --> 00:11:14,062 hidden within the DMZ. 189 00:11:14,163 --> 00:11:16,005 ("I'm a Man" by The Spencer Davis Group playing" 190 00:11:16,029 --> 00:11:21,164 (explosions) 191 00:11:23,098 --> 00:11:23,997 JOHN LAURENCE: Tell me... 192 00:11:24,098 --> 00:11:25,208 You came here at full strength? 193 00:11:25,232 --> 00:11:26,897 I had 13 men when I came. 194 00:11:26,997 --> 00:11:29,565 And it's four days later now and how many are still here? 195 00:11:29,666 --> 00:11:30,565 Six. 196 00:11:30,666 --> 00:11:34,100 ("I'm a Man" continues) 197 00:11:35,966 --> 00:11:39,668 The rifles have been jamming, the mud's been... 198 00:11:39,768 --> 00:11:41,268 it slowed everything down. 199 00:11:41,367 --> 00:11:42,901 And the artillery comes in everywhere. 200 00:11:43,001 --> 00:11:45,435 And, ah, it just gets pretty futile 201 00:11:45,535 --> 00:11:46,801 and frustrating sometimes. 202 00:11:46,901 --> 00:11:48,902 ("I'm a Man" continues) 203 00:11:50,902 --> 00:11:53,671 I can't say that I'm scared stiff, but I'm scared. 204 00:11:53,771 --> 00:11:56,870 I mean, after a while, you know it's going to come. 205 00:11:56,970 --> 00:11:58,331 And you can't do nothing about it. 206 00:11:58,371 --> 00:11:59,672 And you just look to God. 207 00:11:59,772 --> 00:12:01,480 SPENCER DAVIS GROUP: d Well, my pad is very messy 208 00:12:01,504 --> 00:12:03,106 d And there's whiskers on my chin. d 209 00:12:03,206 --> 00:12:06,173 NARRATOR: Private First Class John Musgrave 210 00:12:06,273 --> 00:12:08,940 of Fairmount, Missouri, who had volunteered to join 211 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:10,841 the 3rd Marine Division, 212 00:12:10,940 --> 00:12:14,842 was sent to the battle-scarred countryside around Con Thien, 213 00:12:14,941 --> 00:12:18,343 a few kilometers south of the DMZ. 214 00:12:18,442 --> 00:12:20,975 (explosion) 215 00:12:21,075 --> 00:12:24,744 JOHN MUSGRAVE: For the Marines in northern I Corps in the 3rd Marine Division 216 00:12:24,844 --> 00:12:28,477 in the spring and summer of 1967 we called the DMZ 217 00:12:28,577 --> 00:12:30,010 the "Dead Marine Zone." 218 00:12:30,111 --> 00:12:33,911 NARRATOR: Musgrave's 1st Battalion had already suffered 219 00:12:34,011 --> 00:12:37,545 so many casualties in a series of bloody sweeps 220 00:12:37,646 --> 00:12:41,280 that it was believed to be a hard-luck outfit. 221 00:12:41,379 --> 00:12:44,848 They were called the "Walking Dead." 222 00:12:44,947 --> 00:12:47,848 SPENCER DAVIS GROUP: d I'm a man, yes I am, and I can't... d 223 00:12:47,947 --> 00:12:51,649 MUSGRAVE: I joined the Marine Corps to be in the varsity. 224 00:12:51,749 --> 00:12:55,216 And I felt like I wasn't varsity unless I was up north 225 00:12:55,315 --> 00:12:56,616 fighting the NVA. 226 00:12:56,716 --> 00:12:59,851 I have never regretted that decision. 227 00:12:59,950 --> 00:13:04,352 There were times when we were under artillery fire, 228 00:13:04,451 --> 00:13:08,017 where I thought, you know, "What-what were you thinking?" 229 00:13:08,118 --> 00:13:13,820 Here it is in a nutshell: if I lived to be 63 years old, 230 00:13:13,919 --> 00:13:16,019 I didn't want to look in the mirror some morning 231 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,561 and have a guy looking back at me that hadn't done everything 232 00:13:18,587 --> 00:13:20,387 for what he believed, 233 00:13:20,487 --> 00:13:24,256 that let somebody else do the harder part. 234 00:13:28,956 --> 00:13:31,922 Every major contact I remember with the NVA was initiated 235 00:13:32,022 --> 00:13:33,557 by them ambushing us. 236 00:13:33,658 --> 00:13:36,990 They wouldn't hit us unless they outnumbered us. 237 00:13:37,090 --> 00:13:38,991 And we were fighting in their yard. 238 00:13:41,991 --> 00:13:43,325 They knew the ground; we didn't. 239 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,093 They were just really good. 240 00:14:07,797 --> 00:14:10,731 NARRATOR: The North Vietnamese carried Soviet-made, 241 00:14:10,830 --> 00:14:13,798 seemingly indestructible AK-47s. 242 00:14:15,199 --> 00:14:20,099 The Marines had to fight with newly issued M-16 rifles 243 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,400 that had for a time a potentially fatal design flaw: 244 00:14:24,500 --> 00:14:27,234 they needed constant cleaning 245 00:14:27,334 --> 00:14:30,468 and often jammed in the middle of firefights. 246 00:14:30,568 --> 00:14:33,635 MUSGRAVE: Their rifles worked; ours didn't. 247 00:14:33,735 --> 00:14:37,136 The M-16 was a piece of shit. 248 00:14:37,236 --> 00:14:38,876 You can't throw your bullets at the enemy 249 00:14:38,935 --> 00:14:40,237 and have them be effective. 250 00:14:40,337 --> 00:14:44,772 And that rifle malfunctioned on us repeatedly. 251 00:14:50,873 --> 00:14:53,773 (gunfire) 252 00:15:10,409 --> 00:15:13,509 My hatred for them was pure. 253 00:15:13,609 --> 00:15:15,211 Pure. 254 00:15:15,311 --> 00:15:17,210 I hated them so much. 255 00:15:18,543 --> 00:15:19,911 And I was so scared of them. 256 00:15:21,012 --> 00:15:23,312 Boy, I was terrified of them. 257 00:15:23,411 --> 00:15:25,746 And the scareder I got, the more I hated them. 258 00:15:52,685 --> 00:15:55,985 MUSGRAVE: I only killed one human being in Vietnam. 259 00:15:56,086 --> 00:15:59,351 And that was the first man that I ever killed. 260 00:15:59,452 --> 00:16:03,486 And I was sick with guilt about killing that guy 261 00:16:03,587 --> 00:16:05,620 and thinking I'm going to have to do this 262 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:06,888 for the next 13 months. 263 00:16:06,987 --> 00:16:09,454 I'm-I'm going to go crazy. 264 00:16:09,553 --> 00:16:12,354 And I saw a Marine step on a bouncing Betty mine, 265 00:16:12,455 --> 00:16:15,655 and that's when I made my deal with the devil 266 00:16:15,756 --> 00:16:19,489 and that I said, "I will never kill another human being 267 00:16:19,590 --> 00:16:21,824 "as long as I'm in Vietnam. 268 00:16:21,923 --> 00:16:27,025 "However, I will waste as many gooks as I can find. 269 00:16:27,124 --> 00:16:30,492 "I'll wax as many dinks as I can find. 270 00:16:30,593 --> 00:16:33,625 "I'll smoke as many zips as I can find. 271 00:16:33,725 --> 00:16:36,793 But I ain't gonna kill anybody," you know? 272 00:16:36,894 --> 00:16:40,226 Turn the subject into an object. 273 00:16:40,327 --> 00:16:42,328 It's Racism 101. 274 00:16:42,427 --> 00:16:44,528 It turns out to be a very necessary tool 275 00:16:44,627 --> 00:16:47,196 when you have children fighting your wars, 276 00:16:47,295 --> 00:16:50,029 for them to stay sane doing their work. 277 00:16:56,430 --> 00:16:58,997 NARRATOR: On one early patrol, Musgrave watched 278 00:16:59,098 --> 00:17:03,765 an American fighter swoop down to drop napalm on enemy troops 279 00:17:03,864 --> 00:17:06,200 hidden behind a hedgerow. 280 00:17:06,299 --> 00:17:09,999 He could hear their AK-47s firing at the plane 281 00:17:10,100 --> 00:17:13,767 until the instant they were engulfed in flames. 282 00:17:13,866 --> 00:17:17,602 "If the enemy is willing to die like that," he thought, 283 00:17:17,702 --> 00:17:20,602 "this is going to be one very long war." 284 00:17:23,103 --> 00:17:25,336 MUSGRAVE: They knew if they would pop the ambush close 285 00:17:25,435 --> 00:17:27,037 and then get amongst you, 286 00:17:27,136 --> 00:17:30,669 we couldn't or would hesitate to call in air on ourselves. 287 00:17:33,771 --> 00:17:37,938 So that... firefights like that we called brawls. 288 00:17:38,039 --> 00:17:39,906 They were very intimate. 289 00:17:40,005 --> 00:17:41,506 And they were very deadly. 290 00:17:41,607 --> 00:17:44,439 And they were absolutely terrifying. 291 00:17:48,474 --> 00:17:52,674 NARRATOR: The Marines were spread too thin to hold any of the territory 292 00:17:52,775 --> 00:17:55,241 they fought so hard to take. 293 00:17:55,342 --> 00:17:59,843 Again and again, they were sent out from one stronghold 294 00:17:59,942 --> 00:18:04,044 or another along the DMZ, looking for enemy soldiers. 295 00:18:04,143 --> 00:18:07,778 MUSGRAVE: The disillusionment for me began when I was going back 296 00:18:07,877 --> 00:18:10,944 to fight at places we'd already fought before. 297 00:18:11,045 --> 00:18:14,578 We had fought, captured, and then left 298 00:18:14,678 --> 00:18:16,746 and the NVA came right back. 299 00:18:16,847 --> 00:18:19,013 You don't like getting wounded 300 00:18:19,114 --> 00:18:20,847 in places you've already been before. 301 00:18:23,115 --> 00:18:25,447 War is a real estate business. 302 00:18:25,548 --> 00:18:28,416 We're supposed to take real estate away from the enemy 303 00:18:28,515 --> 00:18:32,382 and then deny the enemy access to that real estate. 304 00:18:32,483 --> 00:18:38,683 NARRATOR: On the morning of July 2, 1967, the 1st Battalion launched 305 00:18:38,784 --> 00:18:43,084 yet another sweep of the area northeast of Con Thien. 306 00:18:43,184 --> 00:18:46,952 When they reached a crossroads called "The Marketplace," 307 00:18:47,053 --> 00:18:51,420 barely a mile and quarter from their base, they were ambushed. 308 00:18:51,519 --> 00:18:54,921 One company was virtually annihilated. 309 00:18:58,587 --> 00:19:03,455 John Musgrave's company rushed to rescue the survivors, 310 00:19:03,556 --> 00:19:06,455 only to be pinned down there as well. 311 00:19:09,224 --> 00:19:14,058 It was one of the worst days the Marine Corps endured in Vietnam: 312 00:19:14,157 --> 00:19:20,359 53 dead and 190 wounded were carried off the battlefield. 313 00:19:20,458 --> 00:19:24,526 Thirty-four more dead had to be left behind, 314 00:19:24,627 --> 00:19:28,361 and when Marines fought their way back two days later 315 00:19:28,460 --> 00:19:31,294 to retrieve their bodies, they found that a number 316 00:19:31,393 --> 00:19:37,462 had died because their M-16s had jammed as the enemy closed in. 317 00:19:37,563 --> 00:19:40,762 Many had been executed, shot in the face 318 00:19:40,863 --> 00:19:43,663 or back of the head at close range. 319 00:19:43,763 --> 00:19:46,696 Some bodies had been booby-trapped, 320 00:19:46,797 --> 00:19:49,664 others mutilated. 321 00:19:49,764 --> 00:19:52,999 MUSGRAVE: Marine amphibious force headquarters 322 00:19:53,098 --> 00:19:56,866 was so desperate to get North Vietnamese prisoners, 323 00:19:56,965 --> 00:20:00,166 that they offered us three day in-country R&R 324 00:20:00,266 --> 00:20:02,367 if we'd bring a prisoner in. 325 00:20:02,467 --> 00:20:03,834 Yeah, good luck. 326 00:20:03,935 --> 00:20:05,334 You know? 327 00:20:05,435 --> 00:20:07,736 Don't you know who... what we're doing up here? 328 00:20:07,835 --> 00:20:09,535 Do you know who we're fighting? 329 00:20:11,302 --> 00:20:13,902 I want to make this clear, we did not torture prisoners 330 00:20:14,003 --> 00:20:16,902 and we did not mutilate them. 331 00:20:23,372 --> 00:20:26,939 But to be a prisoner you had to make it to the rear, you know. 332 00:20:27,038 --> 00:20:30,373 If he was with... fell into our hands 333 00:20:30,472 --> 00:20:32,373 he was just one sorry fucker. 334 00:20:43,175 --> 00:20:45,509 I don't know how to explain it that it would make sense. 335 00:20:47,108 --> 00:20:50,409 ("Green Onions" by Booker T. & the M.G.s playing) 336 00:20:53,610 --> 00:20:54,820 HARRIS: Roxbury, where I grew up, 337 00:20:54,844 --> 00:20:56,578 was the African-American neighborhood, 338 00:20:56,677 --> 00:21:00,512 and South Boston was the Irish-Catholic bastion. 339 00:21:00,611 --> 00:21:02,411 You know, there was a lot of hate. 340 00:21:02,512 --> 00:21:06,147 South Boston folks hated us, we hated them. 341 00:21:06,247 --> 00:21:07,513 And ironically, um... 342 00:21:07,612 --> 00:21:10,081 (sighs) 343 00:21:10,180 --> 00:21:11,913 You know, you end up in a war. 344 00:21:13,749 --> 00:21:15,981 And the Vietnamese didn't care 345 00:21:16,082 --> 00:21:17,890 whether you were from Roxbury or South Boston. 346 00:21:17,914 --> 00:21:19,915 They saw you as American. 347 00:21:20,016 --> 00:21:23,251 And they wanted to kill you because you're American. 348 00:21:23,350 --> 00:21:27,651 NARRATOR: Private Roger Harris had joined the Marines in part, he said, 349 00:21:27,751 --> 00:21:30,117 because he wanted to be "a gladiator," 350 00:21:30,217 --> 00:21:33,352 a killer of his country's enemies. 351 00:21:33,453 --> 00:21:36,685 On July 28, two weeks after 352 00:21:36,785 --> 00:21:40,853 John Musgrave's badly mangled 1st Battalion was pulled back 353 00:21:40,954 --> 00:21:42,686 to rest and recover, 354 00:21:42,786 --> 00:21:46,821 Roger Harris and the 2nd Battalion moved out of Con Thien 355 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,688 and into the southern half of the Demilitarized Zone itself. 356 00:21:52,855 --> 00:21:54,465 HARRIS: We wanted the North Vietnamese Army 357 00:21:54,489 --> 00:21:56,823 to expose themselves. 358 00:21:56,922 --> 00:21:59,857 So, basically, you put the bait out there, 359 00:21:59,958 --> 00:22:04,291 and then we could call in and rain hell on them. 360 00:22:04,392 --> 00:22:08,725 NARRATOR: Roger Harris's battalion advanced into the DMZ 361 00:22:08,826 --> 00:22:13,326 along a rough cart track that led to the Ben Hai River. 362 00:22:13,425 --> 00:22:17,661 But planners had failed to see that a concrete bridge 363 00:22:17,761 --> 00:22:19,662 over an impassable stream 364 00:22:19,762 --> 00:22:24,163 was too narrow and too weak to carry armored vehicles. 365 00:22:24,263 --> 00:22:29,030 Now the Marines had no choice but to violate a cardinal rule 366 00:22:29,129 --> 00:22:30,664 of infantry tactics... 367 00:22:30,764 --> 00:22:35,797 turn around and try to go back the way they had come. 368 00:22:35,898 --> 00:22:39,032 The enemy was waiting. 369 00:22:39,131 --> 00:22:41,832 (explosion, rapid gunfire) 370 00:22:45,100 --> 00:22:47,932 Massive ambushes and... 371 00:22:48,033 --> 00:22:49,500 (gunfire, shouting) 372 00:22:49,601 --> 00:22:53,567 ...and, um, a lot of death. 373 00:22:53,668 --> 00:22:55,568 And... 374 00:22:57,068 --> 00:22:58,734 ...craziness. 375 00:22:58,835 --> 00:23:03,735 NARRATOR: The Marines were forced to run a bloody gauntlet of mortars, 376 00:23:03,836 --> 00:23:07,671 machine gun fire and rocket-propelled grenades. 377 00:23:07,771 --> 00:23:12,472 HARRIS: I had the utmost respect for the North Vietnamese Army soldiers. 378 00:23:12,571 --> 00:23:18,839 When you see someone jump out and confront a tank, you know, 379 00:23:18,938 --> 00:23:21,073 with a big 50-caliber machine gun on it 380 00:23:21,174 --> 00:23:24,107 and a 90-millimeter cannon on it, 381 00:23:24,206 --> 00:23:28,408 and an individual takes on the tank, 382 00:23:28,507 --> 00:23:30,141 I think that says something. 383 00:23:31,776 --> 00:23:34,576 NARRATOR: Roger Harris's company held up the rear, 384 00:23:34,677 --> 00:23:38,543 hounded by enemy soldiers on all sides. 385 00:23:40,844 --> 00:23:44,143 The Marines staggered back out of the DMZ 386 00:23:44,243 --> 00:23:47,345 alongside the battered armored vehicles 387 00:23:47,444 --> 00:23:51,245 heaped with dead and wounded Americans. 388 00:23:51,346 --> 00:23:54,245 The battalion suffered 214 casualties. 389 00:23:57,380 --> 00:24:00,848 HARRIS: Wasn't a good day for Marines at all. 390 00:24:00,947 --> 00:24:02,214 A lot of people died. 391 00:24:02,314 --> 00:24:03,554 People got their legs shot off. 392 00:24:03,615 --> 00:24:05,515 People got run over by tanks. 393 00:24:08,148 --> 00:24:11,050 I don't want to talk about it because it's... 394 00:24:14,284 --> 00:24:16,785 it's not a good day, wasn't a good day. 395 00:25:25,597 --> 00:25:28,964 This is "bau cu", the day of voting in Vietnam, 396 00:25:29,065 --> 00:25:31,965 and it's a solemn day in the village of Hung Thao Phu 397 00:25:32,066 --> 00:25:34,700 and in other villages throughout the country. 398 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,266 And these people have dressed up in their Sunday best for it. 399 00:25:40,134 --> 00:25:43,135 NARRATOR: South Vietnamese prime minister Nguyen Cao Ky 400 00:25:43,234 --> 00:25:47,136 had crushed his Buddhist opponents in 1966, 401 00:25:47,235 --> 00:25:49,636 but he had been forced by the Americans 402 00:25:49,735 --> 00:25:53,070 and his political rivals to make at least tentative moves 403 00:25:53,169 --> 00:25:56,837 toward democracy... election of a national assembly, 404 00:25:56,938 --> 00:26:00,104 a new constitution, and a promise of elections 405 00:26:00,205 --> 00:26:03,405 for president and vice president. 406 00:26:03,506 --> 00:26:08,307 But when Ky's old adversary Nguyen Van Thieu declared 407 00:26:08,406 --> 00:26:11,208 he wanted to challenge Ky for the top spot, 408 00:26:11,308 --> 00:26:14,473 things in Saigon had threatened to come apart again. 409 00:26:16,908 --> 00:26:19,548 PHAN QUANG TUE: We were watching the rivalry between Thieu and Ky. 410 00:26:19,575 --> 00:26:21,643 And that was a game. 411 00:26:21,742 --> 00:26:24,643 In Vietnam, the country was watching like a... 412 00:26:24,742 --> 00:26:27,511 we were watch... watching a movie. 413 00:26:27,610 --> 00:26:29,811 And Thieu and Ky was watching as to, 414 00:26:29,910 --> 00:26:32,712 not whoever had the support of the people, 415 00:26:32,812 --> 00:26:37,146 but who had the support of the Americans and the White House. 416 00:26:37,245 --> 00:26:40,579 NARRATOR: Ellsworth Bunker, the American ambassador, 417 00:26:40,678 --> 00:26:44,147 called both men to his residence and warned that 418 00:26:44,246 --> 00:26:48,015 the United States would not tolerate another power struggle: 419 00:26:48,114 --> 00:26:51,681 Thieu and Ky needed to meet with their fellow generals 420 00:26:51,781 --> 00:26:54,281 and decide who would run for president 421 00:26:54,382 --> 00:26:56,916 and who would be his running mate. 422 00:26:57,017 --> 00:26:59,450 Thieu emerged on top. 423 00:26:59,549 --> 00:27:02,518 He was unassuming and unflappable, 424 00:27:02,617 --> 00:27:05,183 interested largely in accumulating power 425 00:27:05,283 --> 00:27:08,418 and personal wealth and was thought unlikely 426 00:27:08,519 --> 00:27:11,251 ever to embarrass Washington. 427 00:27:11,351 --> 00:27:14,820 Ky would be his vice president. 428 00:27:14,919 --> 00:27:19,887 Together, they won with only 35% of the vote. 429 00:27:19,986 --> 00:27:23,088 No one who had called for an end to the war 430 00:27:23,187 --> 00:27:25,421 had been allowed to run. 431 00:27:25,522 --> 00:27:28,055 Many Buddhists had boycotted the election, 432 00:27:28,156 --> 00:27:33,256 and Viet Cong intimidation had kept many more from the polls. 433 00:27:33,356 --> 00:27:36,324 But the State Department immediately declared 434 00:27:36,423 --> 00:27:39,325 the election an important "step forward." 435 00:27:41,225 --> 00:27:44,659 Some South Vietnamese did believe that a measure 436 00:27:44,758 --> 00:27:47,893 of stability had finally been achieved. 437 00:27:47,992 --> 00:27:51,027 Others were not so sure. 438 00:27:52,594 --> 00:27:56,828 TUE: In terms of corruption, yes, they were corrupt. 439 00:27:56,927 --> 00:28:01,595 Both Thieu and Ky, they abused their position. 440 00:28:01,694 --> 00:28:05,562 We pay a very high price for having leaders 441 00:28:05,663 --> 00:28:08,331 like a Ky and Thieu. 442 00:28:08,430 --> 00:28:10,831 And we continue to pay the price. 443 00:28:12,598 --> 00:28:16,064 ("Soul Dressing" by Booker T. & The M.G.s playing) 444 00:28:16,165 --> 00:28:18,998 EVA JEFFERSON PATERSON: My father was in the United States Army. 445 00:28:19,099 --> 00:28:21,733 And then when the Air Force came about he switched over 446 00:28:21,833 --> 00:28:24,167 to the Air Force. 447 00:28:24,266 --> 00:28:29,067 I grew up out of the country in desegregated settings. 448 00:28:29,168 --> 00:28:32,035 I was usually the only little black girl in the class. 449 00:28:32,134 --> 00:28:34,135 If you look at my class pictures I look 450 00:28:34,236 --> 00:28:37,837 like the little chocolate chip in the vanilla ice cream. 451 00:28:37,936 --> 00:28:40,837 I was always a good student. 452 00:28:40,936 --> 00:28:43,671 I remember people saying, "Oh, you speak so well." 453 00:28:43,770 --> 00:28:45,637 And the unstated part is "for a black girl," 454 00:28:45,738 --> 00:28:48,438 probably a Negro girl or colored girl, at that point. 455 00:28:48,539 --> 00:28:53,173 NARRATOR: Eva Jefferson's father had served a year on airbases 456 00:28:53,272 --> 00:28:56,872 in Vietnam and returned home convinced the United States 457 00:28:56,973 --> 00:28:59,506 had no business being there. 458 00:28:59,607 --> 00:29:03,207 But when his daughter entered Northwestern University 459 00:29:03,307 --> 00:29:08,375 in the Chicago suburb of Evanston in September 1967, 460 00:29:08,476 --> 00:29:12,775 the war was not uppermost in students' minds. 461 00:29:12,875 --> 00:29:16,177 PATERSON: The war was not really an issue. 462 00:29:16,276 --> 00:29:18,111 It's like, "Well, no, the president has 463 00:29:18,210 --> 00:29:20,178 "our best interests at heart. 464 00:29:20,277 --> 00:29:22,077 "He, of course, would only prosecute a war 465 00:29:22,178 --> 00:29:23,546 that made sense." 466 00:29:23,645 --> 00:29:26,412 And I think most of America felt that way. 467 00:29:26,511 --> 00:29:28,480 ("Strange Brew" by Cream playing) 468 00:29:28,579 --> 00:29:30,613 NARRATOR: At the University of Nebraska, 469 00:29:30,712 --> 00:29:33,647 Jack Todd also supported the war. 470 00:29:33,748 --> 00:29:38,114 He had felt so strongly about it in 1966 that he had signed up 471 00:29:38,213 --> 00:29:41,182 for Marine officer training. 472 00:29:41,281 --> 00:29:43,882 I went into the Marine Corps 473 00:29:43,983 --> 00:29:46,282 thinking this was all I wanted to do. 474 00:29:46,382 --> 00:29:48,315 I mean my... my goal was to be commander, 475 00:29:48,417 --> 00:29:49,716 a platoon commander in Vietnam. 476 00:29:51,251 --> 00:29:54,584 NARRATOR: But as time went by and the war went on, 477 00:29:54,685 --> 00:29:57,052 Todd and many of his fellow students 478 00:29:57,151 --> 00:29:58,818 began to change their minds. 479 00:30:00,152 --> 00:30:02,585 TODD: All young people go through changes. 480 00:30:02,686 --> 00:30:05,519 But we were going through astronomical changes 481 00:30:05,620 --> 00:30:07,854 at such a rapid rate. 482 00:30:09,755 --> 00:30:13,421 All the music, the culture, everything that we listened to, 483 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,622 everything that we thought was transforming 484 00:30:15,721 --> 00:30:19,522 and the core of it all was Vietnam, Vietnam, Vietnam. 485 00:30:19,623 --> 00:30:21,456 It just kept going in the background. 486 00:30:21,557 --> 00:30:23,333 First, it was kind of like a background noise 487 00:30:23,357 --> 00:30:25,238 and then it got to be the elephant in the room. 488 00:30:25,323 --> 00:30:27,290 And then it was the elephant sitting on your head 489 00:30:27,390 --> 00:30:29,024 and we... we couldn't escape this. 490 00:30:29,125 --> 00:30:32,458 NARRATOR: Todd attended officer training school 491 00:30:32,559 --> 00:30:35,260 at Camp Upshur in Quantico, Virginia. 492 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,260 But doubts about the war followed him there, too. 493 00:30:41,326 --> 00:30:43,170 TODD: I guess the emotional things that were happening 494 00:30:43,194 --> 00:30:45,695 on the ground, the photographs that we saw, the news images, 495 00:30:45,794 --> 00:30:48,762 and the fact that there was no discernible progress, 496 00:30:48,862 --> 00:30:52,196 that really started to eat away at what we thought. 497 00:30:52,295 --> 00:30:55,396 In the summer of '67, I was at Camp Upshur, you know, 498 00:30:55,497 --> 00:30:57,896 wanting to go kill Vietnamese people. 499 00:30:57,997 --> 00:31:02,365 And in October, I was completely against the war. 500 00:31:05,665 --> 00:31:08,231 JOHNSON: Westmoreland came in last night to me... 501 00:31:08,331 --> 00:31:12,367 And he says that he has concentrated more firepower 502 00:31:12,466 --> 00:31:16,033 and bombing in the last week on the DMZ 503 00:31:16,134 --> 00:31:19,968 and they've concentrated more on us than has ever been 504 00:31:20,069 --> 00:31:22,168 concentrated in any equivalent period 505 00:31:22,269 --> 00:31:23,801 in the history of warfare... 506 00:31:23,901 --> 00:31:25,070 EVERETT DIRKSEN: Yeah. 507 00:31:25,169 --> 00:31:26,412 JOHNSON: ...much more than was ever poured on 508 00:31:26,436 --> 00:31:27,770 Berlin or Tokyo, 509 00:31:27,870 --> 00:31:32,271 and that his only defense of the DMZ to stop 510 00:31:32,371 --> 00:31:35,272 this aggression up there with the North Vietnamese 511 00:31:35,372 --> 00:31:39,037 trying to come in is bombing their gun positions. 512 00:31:39,138 --> 00:31:40,605 DIRKSEN: Yeah. 513 00:31:40,706 --> 00:31:42,581 JOHNSON: And it would just be suicide if we stopped the bombing 514 00:31:42,605 --> 00:31:44,839 as these idiots talking about. 515 00:31:44,940 --> 00:31:46,606 When you say stop the bombing 516 00:31:46,707 --> 00:31:49,473 you say, "Kill more American Marines." 517 00:31:49,574 --> 00:31:50,474 That's all it means. 518 00:31:50,575 --> 00:31:51,840 DIRKSEN: Yeah. 519 00:31:51,941 --> 00:31:55,175 JOHNSON: Now if we stop bombing, without their talking 520 00:31:55,276 --> 00:31:58,041 and without any reciprocity on their part, 521 00:31:58,142 --> 00:32:00,210 it just means we kill more Americans, that's all 522 00:32:00,309 --> 00:32:01,309 DIRKSEN: Yeah. 523 00:32:08,343 --> 00:32:11,911 NARRATOR: Neither the ongoing bombing of the North, 524 00:32:12,012 --> 00:32:15,446 nor the concentrated bombing around the DMZ, 525 00:32:15,545 --> 00:32:17,479 nor the behind-the-scenes offers 526 00:32:17,580 --> 00:32:20,180 made by President Johnson to stop it 527 00:32:20,281 --> 00:32:23,214 had any discernible effect on Le Duan 528 00:32:23,313 --> 00:32:26,682 and the other men who ran North Vietnam. 529 00:32:26,782 --> 00:32:29,747 But Le Duan, like Lyndon Johnson, 530 00:32:29,847 --> 00:32:31,815 was in trouble that summer. 531 00:32:31,915 --> 00:32:34,783 The war with the Americans had produced little more 532 00:32:34,883 --> 00:32:36,816 than a bloody stalemate. 533 00:32:36,916 --> 00:32:39,884 Some Viet Cong commanders in the South 534 00:32:39,983 --> 00:32:44,250 resented Hanoi's insistence on directing their tactics. 535 00:32:44,350 --> 00:32:48,552 Many North Vietnamese civilians were weary of the war 536 00:32:48,652 --> 00:32:51,553 and of the bombing that had disrupted their lives 537 00:32:51,653 --> 00:32:55,187 and destroyed so much of their infrastructure. 538 00:32:55,287 --> 00:32:57,853 The country's most revered figures, 539 00:32:57,953 --> 00:33:02,454 Ho Chi Minh and Vo Nguyen Giap, were urging patience, 540 00:33:02,555 --> 00:33:06,623 continuing to wage a war of attrition, they still believed, 541 00:33:06,723 --> 00:33:09,822 would pay off in the end. 542 00:33:09,922 --> 00:33:13,456 Hanoi's Soviet and Chinese patrons offered 543 00:33:13,557 --> 00:33:16,457 conflicting advice, as well. 544 00:33:16,558 --> 00:33:20,793 To silence his critics and break the stalemate, 545 00:33:20,893 --> 00:33:23,358 Le Duan began to devise and promote 546 00:33:23,458 --> 00:33:26,826 a new and riskier version of the plan for victory 547 00:33:26,926 --> 00:33:30,394 he had tried in 1964. 548 00:33:30,493 --> 00:33:35,961 He called it the "General Offensive, General Uprising." 549 00:33:36,062 --> 00:33:39,796 North Vietnamese and Viet Cong units would launch 550 00:33:39,896 --> 00:33:44,130 scores of coordinated attacks on South Vietnamese cities 551 00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:47,363 and towns and military bases. 552 00:33:47,463 --> 00:33:49,698 That offensive, Le Duan believed, 553 00:33:49,798 --> 00:33:53,331 would ignite a mass civilian uprising. 554 00:33:53,431 --> 00:33:57,900 These simultaneous blows would destroy the Saigon regime 555 00:33:57,999 --> 00:34:01,933 and leave Washington with no choice but to withdraw. 556 00:34:53,043 --> 00:34:54,643 WILLBANKS: We talk about our own hubris. 557 00:34:54,677 --> 00:34:56,812 There's some hubris on their side as well. 558 00:34:56,912 --> 00:34:58,777 And once they had convinced themselves 559 00:34:58,877 --> 00:35:01,612 that this was going to be a great success, 560 00:35:01,713 --> 00:35:04,713 it is what some wags have called drinking your own bathwater. 561 00:35:06,146 --> 00:35:07,522 They decided it's going to be a victory, 562 00:35:07,546 --> 00:35:09,546 even though there are people in the South saying, 563 00:35:09,647 --> 00:35:11,080 "Hey, this is not a great idea." 564 00:35:11,180 --> 00:35:14,947 But these people are charged with subjectivism 565 00:35:15,047 --> 00:35:17,682 and basically are told to shut up and keep rolling. 566 00:35:17,781 --> 00:35:22,083 NARRATOR: Le Duan neutralized those who opposed his plan. 567 00:35:22,183 --> 00:35:25,317 Members of General Giap's staff were arrested. 568 00:35:25,417 --> 00:35:27,983 So was Ho Chi Minh's secretary. 569 00:35:44,654 --> 00:35:49,354 NARRATOR: Hundreds of less prominent figures... journalists, students, 570 00:35:49,454 --> 00:35:52,689 even highly decorated heroes of the French War... 571 00:35:52,788 --> 00:35:54,923 were also rounded up. 572 00:35:55,022 --> 00:35:57,856 Many were locked up in the old French prison 573 00:35:57,956 --> 00:36:01,657 that the American POWs also confined there called 574 00:36:01,757 --> 00:36:04,225 the "Hanoi Hilton." 575 00:36:04,325 --> 00:36:08,058 The date eventually chosen for the attack would be 576 00:36:08,159 --> 00:36:11,726 January 31, 1968, 577 00:36:11,826 --> 00:36:15,859 the first day of the Vietnamese Lunar New Year celebration, 578 00:36:15,959 --> 00:36:18,828 known as Tet. 579 00:36:18,928 --> 00:36:22,894 Hundreds, then thousands, of North Vietnamese regulars 580 00:36:22,994 --> 00:36:26,095 in civilian clothes began slipping southward 581 00:36:26,195 --> 00:36:30,830 to join tens of thousands of Viet Cong already in place. 582 00:37:41,809 --> 00:37:44,077 NARRATOR: In preparation for the coming offensive, 583 00:37:44,178 --> 00:37:46,877 the North Vietnamese hoped to lure American 584 00:37:46,977 --> 00:37:50,145 and South Vietnamese forces away from cities 585 00:37:50,246 --> 00:37:52,511 and big military bases. 586 00:37:52,612 --> 00:37:56,046 To do that, they would mount a series of assaults 587 00:37:56,146 --> 00:38:01,681 on remote outposts near Cambodia, Laos, and the DMZ. 588 00:38:01,781 --> 00:38:06,749 These preliminary attacks became known as the "Border Battles." 589 00:38:06,849 --> 00:38:10,183 Con Thien would be the first. 590 00:38:13,450 --> 00:38:15,650 In September and October, 591 00:38:15,751 --> 00:38:18,752 John Musgrave's and Roger Harris's outfits 592 00:38:18,852 --> 00:38:21,317 took turns defending Con Thien 593 00:38:21,417 --> 00:38:25,318 as the North Vietnamese tightened the noose around them. 594 00:38:25,418 --> 00:38:29,053 The only way in or out was by helicopter. 595 00:38:31,354 --> 00:38:35,688 Con Thien in Vietnamese means "Hill of Angels." 596 00:38:35,788 --> 00:38:37,755 (explosion) 597 00:38:37,855 --> 00:38:41,321 MUSGRAVE: Time at Con Thien was time in the barrel. 598 00:38:41,421 --> 00:38:45,556 (multiple explosions) 599 00:38:45,656 --> 00:38:48,690 We were the fish, they had the shotguns, 600 00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:50,858 they stuck in the barrel and blasted away. 601 00:38:50,958 --> 00:38:53,657 And they were gonna hit something every shot. 602 00:38:53,758 --> 00:38:56,759 Because Con Thien was such a small area, 603 00:38:56,859 --> 00:38:58,792 and they pounded it with that artillery 604 00:38:58,891 --> 00:39:00,892 from North Vietnam, they couldn't miss. 605 00:39:07,861 --> 00:39:12,061 I've never been, uh, as afraid. 606 00:39:12,161 --> 00:39:14,428 In fact that's why I'm not afraid of anything now. 607 00:39:14,528 --> 00:39:16,895 I mean... 608 00:39:16,995 --> 00:39:18,328 there's nothing you can do. 609 00:39:18,428 --> 00:39:22,096 You just listen to the sounds of the rockets coming over. 610 00:39:22,197 --> 00:39:25,731 And you just pray that they don't land on you. 611 00:39:25,830 --> 00:39:28,465 The big question really seems to be whether or not 612 00:39:28,564 --> 00:39:31,831 the North Vietnamese intend to overrun Con Thien. 613 00:39:31,931 --> 00:39:34,767 The Marines have tripled the number of troops 614 00:39:34,867 --> 00:39:36,200 guarding the outpost, 615 00:39:36,300 --> 00:39:37,875 and they've moved up more battalions to be ready 616 00:39:37,899 --> 00:39:39,468 to reinforce. 617 00:39:39,567 --> 00:39:41,500 MUSGRAVE: I sat in water. 618 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,400 I slept in water. 619 00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:47,168 I ate in water, because our holes were full. 620 00:39:47,269 --> 00:39:49,434 I mean a flooded foxhole could drown a wounded man. 621 00:39:49,535 --> 00:39:52,136 HARRIS: Spend your day filling up sand bags, 622 00:39:52,236 --> 00:39:55,903 trying to create barriers that you just put another layer on, 623 00:39:56,003 --> 00:39:57,670 put another layer on. 624 00:39:57,771 --> 00:40:02,238 A lot of mud, blood, uh... 625 00:40:02,337 --> 00:40:03,537 and artillery. 626 00:40:04,706 --> 00:40:06,026 MUSGRAVE: It's red clay up there. 627 00:40:06,105 --> 00:40:08,739 And it's real sticky and it could just grab onto you 628 00:40:08,838 --> 00:40:10,640 and pull your boots off. 629 00:40:10,740 --> 00:40:12,106 It's hard to run in that stuff. 630 00:40:12,207 --> 00:40:13,906 And running, when you're at a place 631 00:40:14,006 --> 00:40:15,617 where they're firing heavy artillery at you, 632 00:40:15,641 --> 00:40:16,840 running's pretty important. 633 00:40:19,607 --> 00:40:21,675 During the siege in the fall of 1967, 634 00:40:21,776 --> 00:40:23,908 we were getting newspaper articles in the mail 635 00:40:24,008 --> 00:40:27,342 from our families and we were being called the Alamo. 636 00:40:27,442 --> 00:40:30,311 You know, hey, we knew what the Alamo was. 637 00:40:30,410 --> 00:40:32,478 We knew what happened there. 638 00:40:32,577 --> 00:40:36,178 (explosions) 639 00:40:36,279 --> 00:40:38,178 (men shouting) 640 00:40:38,279 --> 00:40:40,380 (explosions continue) 641 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,380 HARRIS: Like almost like every hour there'd be a barrage. 642 00:40:45,446 --> 00:40:49,113 People get blown to bits, literally blown to bits. 643 00:40:49,214 --> 00:40:52,914 You find a... a boot with a leg in it, right. 644 00:40:53,014 --> 00:40:55,415 And so is the leg white or black? 645 00:40:55,515 --> 00:40:57,475 So who... who was the white Marine that was here? 646 00:40:57,548 --> 00:40:58,615 Who was the black? 647 00:40:58,716 --> 00:41:00,817 So then you try to remember and you tag it 648 00:41:00,916 --> 00:41:02,284 and put that in the green bag. 649 00:41:02,384 --> 00:41:05,049 And that's what goes back, you know, 650 00:41:05,150 --> 00:41:07,417 as Marine Lance Corporal so and so. 651 00:41:07,517 --> 00:41:10,551 And so, but sometimes you're not even sure because the body 652 00:41:10,652 --> 00:41:12,728 has literally been blown to bits, and the only thing 653 00:41:12,752 --> 00:41:15,319 that's left is a foot or a piece of an arm. 654 00:41:15,419 --> 00:41:19,987 MUSGRAVE: I carried a wallet calendar from Clifford Forlow Insurance. 655 00:41:20,086 --> 00:41:22,221 He was my dad's insurance agent. 656 00:41:22,321 --> 00:41:25,854 And I marked off each of the days religiously. 657 00:41:25,954 --> 00:41:30,521 And then in October, we went up to Con Thien again. 658 00:41:30,622 --> 00:41:35,490 I just stopped, because I thought, "This is pointless. 659 00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:37,724 "I'm not getting... I'm not gonna go home. 660 00:41:37,824 --> 00:41:39,224 "I'm not gonna make it home. 661 00:41:39,324 --> 00:41:41,258 What... you know, what's the point?" 662 00:41:41,357 --> 00:41:43,258 So I just quit marking them off. 663 00:41:44,857 --> 00:41:47,135 HARRIS: I had the opportunity to call my mother, you know. 664 00:41:47,159 --> 00:41:49,726 And I was telling my mother what was happening over there 665 00:41:49,826 --> 00:41:51,959 and I was telling her how she shouldn't believe 666 00:41:52,059 --> 00:41:55,860 what she sees in the newspaper and-and sees on television 667 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,161 because we're losing the war. 668 00:41:58,261 --> 00:42:00,761 And I said, "You'll probably never see me again 669 00:42:00,861 --> 00:42:04,128 "because we're the most northern outpost that the Marines have, 670 00:42:04,229 --> 00:42:05,628 "you know. 671 00:42:05,729 --> 00:42:07,938 "We could literally could look right into North Vietnam. 672 00:42:07,962 --> 00:42:10,429 We could see the sparks when the guns fired on us." 673 00:42:10,529 --> 00:42:13,798 And I said, "And everybody in my unit is dying, you know. 674 00:42:13,898 --> 00:42:15,764 And I probably won't be coming back." 675 00:42:15,863 --> 00:42:17,964 And my mother said, "No, you're coming back." 676 00:42:18,064 --> 00:42:20,899 She said, "I talk to God every day and you're special. 677 00:42:20,999 --> 00:42:23,233 You're coming back." 678 00:42:23,333 --> 00:42:25,699 And I said, "Ma, everybody's mother thinks that 679 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,401 "they're special, you know. 680 00:42:27,501 --> 00:42:29,466 I'm putting pieces of special people in bags." 681 00:42:31,567 --> 00:42:33,367 And I was feeling that my mother's in denial. 682 00:42:33,467 --> 00:42:35,735 She just doesn't want to face the fact that her only son 683 00:42:35,835 --> 00:42:37,769 is gonna die in Vietnam. 684 00:42:37,868 --> 00:42:39,368 And I said, "Ma, this isn't a joke." 685 00:42:39,468 --> 00:42:41,145 I said, "Everybody's dying over here, you know. 686 00:42:41,169 --> 00:42:42,237 Everybody's dying." 687 00:42:42,337 --> 00:42:43,869 And she said, "You're not gonna die. 688 00:42:43,969 --> 00:42:45,369 You're not gonna die." 689 00:42:45,469 --> 00:42:47,704 And, uh, the last thing she said to me was, 690 00:42:47,805 --> 00:42:49,870 "God has a plan for you." 691 00:42:49,970 --> 00:42:51,104 And I said, "Yeah, right." 692 00:42:51,204 --> 00:42:52,205 And I hung up. 693 00:42:53,138 --> 00:42:54,806 (explosion) 694 00:42:57,072 --> 00:42:59,807 Mr. Stout, during what period of time were you in Vietnam? 695 00:42:59,907 --> 00:43:03,073 I was in Vietnam from September of 1966 696 00:43:03,174 --> 00:43:05,373 to September of 1967, one year. 697 00:43:05,473 --> 00:43:06,842 And with what unit? 698 00:43:06,941 --> 00:43:08,708 With the 1st Brigade of the 101st Airborne. 699 00:43:08,809 --> 00:43:11,175 During the time that you were in Vietnam, 700 00:43:11,275 --> 00:43:13,310 did you personally witness any atrocities 701 00:43:13,410 --> 00:43:15,343 on the part of American troops? 702 00:43:15,442 --> 00:43:16,442 Yes, I did. 703 00:43:18,011 --> 00:43:21,411 NARRATOR: Dennis Stout from Phoenix, Arizona, had enlisted 704 00:43:21,511 --> 00:43:26,312 in the Army at 20, and served nine months in combat. 705 00:43:26,412 --> 00:43:29,913 Wounded three times, he became an Army reporter 706 00:43:30,013 --> 00:43:35,780 covering the 327th Regiment of the 101st Airborne. 707 00:43:35,879 --> 00:43:40,214 He would spend most of his time with a unique commando platoon 708 00:43:40,315 --> 00:43:41,714 called "Tiger Force"... 709 00:43:41,815 --> 00:43:45,048 small, handpicked teams, capable of remaining 710 00:43:45,148 --> 00:43:47,882 in the jungle for weeks at a time, 711 00:43:47,982 --> 00:43:50,616 fast-moving and deadly, 712 00:43:50,716 --> 00:43:54,483 intended to "out-guerrilla the guerrillas." 713 00:43:55,818 --> 00:43:58,519 Tiger Force fought in six different provinces, 714 00:43:58,618 --> 00:44:01,718 repeatedly suffering heavy losses. 715 00:44:01,819 --> 00:44:03,152 (rapid gunfire) 716 00:44:04,952 --> 00:44:08,220 RION CAUSEY: If you've lost your best friend and you want revenge, 717 00:44:08,321 --> 00:44:11,553 it's the officers who say, "No, you can't do that." 718 00:44:11,653 --> 00:44:14,755 And if you do it, then there's consequences. 719 00:44:14,855 --> 00:44:17,588 But when the officers, and it includes the platoon leader 720 00:44:17,689 --> 00:44:20,622 and the battalion commander, are telling you that this is 721 00:44:20,722 --> 00:44:25,357 what you're supposed to do, then it gets completely out of hand. 722 00:44:25,456 --> 00:44:29,457 NARRATOR: Some at MACV worried that such a freewheeling outfit, 723 00:44:29,557 --> 00:44:33,326 operating on its own, would be difficult to control. 724 00:44:33,426 --> 00:44:35,026 (gunfire) 725 00:44:35,125 --> 00:44:38,659 But General Westmoreland and commanders in the field 726 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:43,294 admired Tiger Force for its reliable ferocity. 727 00:44:43,393 --> 00:44:47,428 In the summer of 1967, Tiger Force was sent 728 00:44:47,528 --> 00:44:50,029 to the fertile Song Ve Valley. 729 00:44:50,128 --> 00:44:53,062 The entire population had already been herded 730 00:44:53,162 --> 00:44:57,730 from their homes and crowded into a refugee camp. 731 00:44:57,831 --> 00:45:01,063 But some had come back to resume the farming 732 00:45:01,163 --> 00:45:03,432 they had always done. 733 00:45:04,932 --> 00:45:08,098 The valley had officially been declared a free-fire zone, 734 00:45:08,199 --> 00:45:12,299 and Tiger Force's officers took that literally. 735 00:45:12,398 --> 00:45:16,267 "There are no friendlies," one lieutenant told his men. 736 00:45:16,367 --> 00:45:19,201 "Shoot anything that moves." 737 00:45:22,701 --> 00:45:25,668 Over a seven-month period, they killed scores 738 00:45:25,769 --> 00:45:28,270 of unarmed civilians. 739 00:45:28,370 --> 00:45:31,870 Among their victims were two blind brothers; 740 00:45:31,969 --> 00:45:36,470 an elderly Buddhist monk; women, children, and old people 741 00:45:36,570 --> 00:45:38,738 hiding in underground shelters; 742 00:45:38,839 --> 00:45:42,104 and three farmers trying to plant rice. 743 00:45:42,205 --> 00:45:46,605 All were reported as "enemy... killed in action." 744 00:45:49,473 --> 00:45:53,407 STOUT: These atrocities were committed by soldiers 745 00:45:53,507 --> 00:45:55,741 of units I was assigned to as a reporter 746 00:45:55,842 --> 00:45:57,674 for the Army newspapers, such as... 747 00:45:57,775 --> 00:46:01,242 NARRATOR: Tiger Force was not the only platoon 748 00:46:01,343 --> 00:46:04,909 Dennis Stout covered that crossed the line. 749 00:46:05,009 --> 00:46:08,076 One such incident was the rape and killing 750 00:46:08,176 --> 00:46:09,977 of a Vietnamese girl. 751 00:46:10,077 --> 00:46:14,879 She was captured, kept for interrogation. 752 00:46:14,978 --> 00:46:17,846 Over a two-day period, she was raped, then, 753 00:46:17,946 --> 00:46:19,756 on the morning of the third day, she was killed. 754 00:46:19,780 --> 00:46:23,179 Was she raped by more than one person? 755 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,848 Yes, all but the medic and myself, 756 00:46:26,948 --> 00:46:28,709 and possibly one other man from the platoon. 757 00:46:28,782 --> 00:46:29,782 Did you protest? 758 00:46:29,882 --> 00:46:31,949 Did you try in any way to have them stopped? 759 00:46:32,049 --> 00:46:35,316 Yes. After the rape incident, I complained 760 00:46:35,415 --> 00:46:39,817 to the battalion sergeant major, and his response was that 761 00:46:39,916 --> 00:46:42,183 this type of thing happens in all wars, 762 00:46:42,284 --> 00:46:45,584 and that I was not to mention it; it was a common occurrence. 763 00:46:45,684 --> 00:46:49,985 Then later, I went to the chaplain, told him about it, 764 00:46:50,085 --> 00:46:52,319 he made an investigation himself, 765 00:46:52,418 --> 00:46:54,686 found that this was true, went with me 766 00:46:54,787 --> 00:46:56,220 to the sergeant major. 767 00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,388 The sergeant major then said that... 768 00:47:00,487 --> 00:47:02,407 well, he told the chaplain to stick to religion, 769 00:47:02,455 --> 00:47:05,988 sent him away, and then he told me to keep quiet, 770 00:47:06,088 --> 00:47:09,756 that I did nothave t o return from the next operation. 771 00:47:11,290 --> 00:47:14,358 NARRATOR: Years later, another soldier came forward 772 00:47:14,458 --> 00:47:17,157 with more allegations of war crimes, 773 00:47:17,257 --> 00:47:20,725 and an Army investigation would find probable cause 774 00:47:20,825 --> 00:47:25,726 to try 18 members of Tiger Force for murder or assault. 775 00:47:26,826 --> 00:47:29,327 But no charges were ever brought. 776 00:47:29,426 --> 00:47:32,561 The official records were buried in the archives. 777 00:47:34,462 --> 00:47:36,362 WILLBANKS: They should have all gone to jail. 778 00:47:36,462 --> 00:47:37,927 They were guilty of murder. 779 00:47:38,027 --> 00:47:39,396 Period. 780 00:47:39,495 --> 00:47:42,928 At the same time, I felt like that incident, 781 00:47:43,028 --> 00:47:46,196 which I think was an aberration, not the norm, 782 00:47:46,297 --> 00:47:48,897 tarred all veterans, and there are hundreds of thousands 783 00:47:48,996 --> 00:47:50,764 of veterans who went and did their duty, 784 00:47:50,865 --> 00:47:53,298 and as honorable as they possibly could, 785 00:47:53,398 --> 00:47:55,165 and they're tarred with the same brush. 786 00:47:57,265 --> 00:48:00,532 KARL MARLANTES: One of the things that I learned in the war is that 787 00:48:00,632 --> 00:48:05,267 we're not the top species on the planet because we're nice. 788 00:48:05,368 --> 00:48:08,533 We are a very aggressive species. 789 00:48:08,633 --> 00:48:10,302 It is in us. 790 00:48:10,402 --> 00:48:13,735 And people talk a lot about how, "Well, the military turns 791 00:48:13,835 --> 00:48:16,803 kids into killing machines" and stuff. 792 00:48:18,403 --> 00:48:21,136 And I'll always argue that it's just finishing school. 793 00:48:21,237 --> 00:48:25,872 What we do with civilization is that we learn to inhibit 794 00:48:25,972 --> 00:48:29,305 and rope in these aggressive tendencies. 795 00:48:29,405 --> 00:48:31,739 And we have to recognize them. 796 00:48:31,839 --> 00:48:35,639 I worry about a whole country that doesn't recognize it. 797 00:48:35,740 --> 00:48:37,682 'Cause you think of how many times we get ourselves 798 00:48:37,706 --> 00:48:41,040 in scrapes as a nation because we're always the good guys. 799 00:48:41,140 --> 00:48:44,007 Sometimes, I think if we thought that we weren't always 800 00:48:44,107 --> 00:48:46,441 the good guys, we might actually get in less wars. 801 00:48:49,775 --> 00:48:50,776 (static humming) 802 00:48:50,877 --> 00:48:52,142 REPORTER: Mr. Rubin, 803 00:48:52,243 --> 00:48:54,977 how do you realistically expect to shut down the Pentagon? 804 00:48:55,078 --> 00:48:58,177 The Pentagon represents the murder of people 805 00:48:58,277 --> 00:48:59,543 throughout the world. 806 00:48:59,643 --> 00:49:01,778 And the American people have no control 807 00:49:01,879 --> 00:49:03,278 of what their government's doing. 808 00:49:03,379 --> 00:49:06,846 And so we're going to go there in the scores of thousands, 809 00:49:06,945 --> 00:49:10,012 and block doors and fill hallways, 810 00:49:10,112 --> 00:49:12,146 so the work of the Pentagon stops. 811 00:49:12,247 --> 00:49:14,381 Because the work of the Pentagon should stop. 812 00:49:14,481 --> 00:49:16,757 The only thing to do with the Pentagon is to shut it down. 813 00:49:16,781 --> 00:49:19,382 ("Waist Deep in the Big Muddy" by Pete Seeger playing) 814 00:49:19,482 --> 00:49:22,148 d It was back in 1942 815 00:49:22,249 --> 00:49:24,515 d I was a member of a good platoon d 816 00:49:24,615 --> 00:49:27,850 d We were on maneuvers in Louisiana d 817 00:49:27,949 --> 00:49:29,850 d One night by the light of the moon d 818 00:49:29,949 --> 00:49:33,517 d The captain told us to ford a river d 819 00:49:33,617 --> 00:49:36,218 d That's how it all begun 820 00:49:36,319 --> 00:49:38,752 d We were knee deep in the Big Muddy d 821 00:49:38,852 --> 00:49:41,619 d The big fool says to push on 822 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,387 BILL ZIMMERMAN: There was a major demonstration either in New York 823 00:49:45,487 --> 00:49:50,053 or in Washington every fall and every spring. 824 00:49:50,153 --> 00:49:53,188 We decided that we would go to the demonstration 825 00:49:53,288 --> 00:49:56,856 in Washington at the Lincoln Memorial in the fall of '67, 826 00:49:56,955 --> 00:49:59,555 but we would take as many people out of that demonstration 827 00:49:59,655 --> 00:50:03,456 as we could and lead them to the Pentagon. 828 00:50:03,556 --> 00:50:08,024 And at the Pentagon, try to do something more militant 829 00:50:08,124 --> 00:50:11,759 than simply stand around and make speeches opposing the war, 830 00:50:11,859 --> 00:50:14,826 which is what these demonstrations had become. 831 00:50:14,926 --> 00:50:16,403 SEEGER: d No man will be able to swim. 832 00:50:16,427 --> 00:50:19,726 ZIMMERMAN: And when the time came to lead people away 833 00:50:19,827 --> 00:50:21,995 from the Lincoln Memorial toward the Pentagon, 834 00:50:22,095 --> 00:50:24,660 50,000 people marched. 835 00:50:24,761 --> 00:50:27,061 SEEGER: d Men, follow me, I'll lead on 836 00:50:27,161 --> 00:50:30,096 d We were neck deep in the Big Muddy d 837 00:50:30,195 --> 00:50:33,196 d The big fool says to push on. d 838 00:50:33,296 --> 00:50:37,098 NARRATOR: Bill Zimmerman, now an assistant professor of psychology 839 00:50:37,197 --> 00:50:39,831 at Brooklyn College, had been against the war 840 00:50:39,931 --> 00:50:41,765 since the beginning. 841 00:50:41,865 --> 00:50:46,299 ZIMMERMAN: Then we found when we got there concentric defense perimeters 842 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,500 that had been set up around the Pentagon to keep us 843 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,199 at a distance from the building. 844 00:50:51,300 --> 00:50:55,700 We pushed against them, we tore down their fences. 845 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,667 SEEGER: d With the captain dead and gone d 846 00:50:57,768 --> 00:50:59,443 d We stripped and dived and found his body. d 847 00:50:59,467 --> 00:51:02,269 LESLIE GELB: I was working that weekend day. 848 00:51:02,369 --> 00:51:06,636 The secretaries who were working in my area were frightened 849 00:51:06,736 --> 00:51:11,270 to hell what these Vietnam protesters would do. 850 00:51:11,370 --> 00:51:12,780 They thought they were going to come into the building 851 00:51:12,804 --> 00:51:13,938 and rape them. 852 00:51:14,037 --> 00:51:16,405 Some of them actually came over the walls. 853 00:51:16,505 --> 00:51:18,439 SEEGER: d The big fool said to push on. d 854 00:51:18,538 --> 00:51:21,940 GELB: It was a sense of revolution. 855 00:51:22,039 --> 00:51:23,039 (crowd yelling) 856 00:51:23,139 --> 00:51:24,972 SEEGER: d Waist deep in the Big Muddy 857 00:51:25,072 --> 00:51:26,941 d The big fool says to push on 858 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,874 d Waist deep in the Big Muddy 859 00:51:29,973 --> 00:51:32,009 d The big fool says to push on. d 860 00:51:32,109 --> 00:51:36,342 ZIMMERMAN: God knows what we were going to do when we got in the building. 861 00:51:36,442 --> 00:51:38,376 Some people, the hippies, 862 00:51:38,475 --> 00:51:40,315 said they were going to levitate the building. 863 00:51:40,410 --> 00:51:43,777 Other people wanted to commit vandalism in the building. 864 00:51:43,877 --> 00:51:46,243 Other people wanted to distribute antiwar literature 865 00:51:46,344 --> 00:51:48,612 in the building, talk to people. 866 00:51:48,711 --> 00:51:52,113 Just the idea of getting into the headquarters 867 00:51:52,212 --> 00:51:54,279 of the United States military... 868 00:51:56,078 --> 00:51:59,380 It was the first time that antiwar demonstrators 869 00:51:59,479 --> 00:52:03,881 had confronted active-duty military personnel. 870 00:52:03,980 --> 00:52:06,580 We didn't consider them the enemy. 871 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,148 We considered them victims of the war. 872 00:52:10,248 --> 00:52:15,350 But we began to see our own government as the enemy. 873 00:52:15,450 --> 00:52:19,717 NARRATOR: President Johnson believed that international communism 874 00:52:19,817 --> 00:52:22,318 was somehow behind the demonstration. 875 00:52:22,419 --> 00:52:25,785 He had directed the CIA to come up with the evidence, 876 00:52:25,885 --> 00:52:29,652 and was furious when it found none. 877 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:32,820 DWIGHT EISENHOWER: Mr. President? 878 00:52:32,921 --> 00:52:33,787 LYNDON JOHNSON: Yes. 879 00:52:33,887 --> 00:52:34,787 This is General Eisenhower. 880 00:52:34,887 --> 00:52:36,097 How've you been, Mr. President? 881 00:52:36,121 --> 00:52:39,054 I'm doing fine under the circumstances. 882 00:52:39,154 --> 00:52:41,788 But we just had hell, and these college students, 883 00:52:41,888 --> 00:52:43,755 I've had Hoover in after them. 884 00:52:43,856 --> 00:52:47,289 They came marched here, and we arrested 600 of them, 885 00:52:47,389 --> 00:52:50,489 and we gave 29 of them pretty tough times. 886 00:52:50,589 --> 00:52:53,925 We found most of them really were mentally diseased. 887 00:52:54,025 --> 00:52:58,091 Hoover's taken 256 that turned in supposedly their draft cards. 888 00:52:58,191 --> 00:53:00,558 So, you're dealing with mental problems, 889 00:53:00,658 --> 00:53:02,793 I think that we talk too damn much 890 00:53:02,893 --> 00:53:05,092 about civil liberties and constitutional rights 891 00:53:05,192 --> 00:53:06,659 of the individual and not enough 892 00:53:06,759 --> 00:53:08,193 about the rights of the masses. 893 00:53:08,294 --> 00:53:09,636 EISENHOWER: That's why we have it. 894 00:53:09,660 --> 00:53:11,628 We have freely elected people and we've got to 895 00:53:11,727 --> 00:53:13,129 stand behind them. 896 00:53:13,228 --> 00:53:15,694 JOHNSON: I think your government's in trouble, General. 897 00:53:15,795 --> 00:53:17,661 I think it's in... I don't want to say this. 898 00:53:17,762 --> 00:53:19,463 But I think we're in more danger 899 00:53:19,562 --> 00:53:21,463 from these left-wing influences now 900 00:53:21,562 --> 00:53:24,431 than we've ever been in 37 years I've been here. 901 00:53:24,531 --> 00:53:27,563 And they're working in my party from within. 902 00:53:27,663 --> 00:53:30,231 And Bobby thinks he's going to get the nomination. 903 00:53:30,331 --> 00:53:34,565 NARRATOR: Allard Lowenstein, a 38-year-old attorney from New York, 904 00:53:34,665 --> 00:53:37,698 shared the antiwar fervor of the protestors, 905 00:53:37,799 --> 00:53:39,599 but he believed the most effective way 906 00:53:39,699 --> 00:53:43,401 to end the fighting was to work within the political system, 907 00:53:43,500 --> 00:53:45,301 not outside it. 908 00:53:45,401 --> 00:53:48,136 The answer, he said, was to stop Lyndon Johnson 909 00:53:48,235 --> 00:53:51,802 from getting a second full term as president. 910 00:53:51,902 --> 00:53:56,069 He had traveled the country all year in search of someone 911 00:53:56,169 --> 00:53:58,804 willing to challenge the president in the upcoming 912 00:53:58,904 --> 00:54:00,837 Democratic primaries. 913 00:54:00,938 --> 00:54:04,139 He asked Senator Robert Kennedy of New York, 914 00:54:04,238 --> 00:54:07,238 who had begun to criticize the Johnson administration 915 00:54:07,338 --> 00:54:08,739 over the war. 916 00:54:08,839 --> 00:54:12,140 He asked Lieutenant General James Gavin. 917 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:16,206 He asked Senator George McGovern of South Dakota. 918 00:54:16,307 --> 00:54:18,442 They all turned him down. 919 00:54:18,542 --> 00:54:22,174 Lowenstein kept looking. 920 00:54:27,175 --> 00:54:32,276 At Fort Sill, Oklahoma, on November 17, 1967, 921 00:54:32,377 --> 00:54:35,610 friends and family of a fallen soldier gathered 922 00:54:35,710 --> 00:54:39,178 for a funeral, one of five military funerals 923 00:54:39,278 --> 00:54:41,678 held there that month. 924 00:54:41,778 --> 00:54:46,512 First Sergeant Pascal Cleatus Poolaw had been killed 925 00:54:46,612 --> 00:54:49,113 as he tried to drag one of his wounded men 926 00:54:49,213 --> 00:54:53,982 off the battlefield near the village of Loc Ninh. 927 00:54:54,081 --> 00:54:59,215 He was a remarkable soldier, had been awarded one Silver Star 928 00:54:59,316 --> 00:55:04,783 in World War II, two more in Korea, and was awarded a fourth, 929 00:55:04,884 --> 00:55:09,117 posthumously, for his gallantry in Vietnam. 930 00:55:09,217 --> 00:55:12,284 He was a Kiowa Indian. 931 00:55:12,385 --> 00:55:15,252 He and three of his sons were among 932 00:55:15,352 --> 00:55:20,353 the 42,000 Native Americans who would serve in Vietnam, 933 00:55:20,454 --> 00:55:24,155 the highest per capita service rate of any ethnic group 934 00:55:24,254 --> 00:55:26,421 in the United States. 935 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:31,456 Pascal Poolaw's widow spoke at the ceremony. 936 00:55:31,556 --> 00:55:35,189 "He has followed the trail of the great chiefs," she said. 937 00:55:35,289 --> 00:55:40,491 "His people hold him in honor and highest esteem. 938 00:55:40,590 --> 00:55:44,791 "He has given his life for the people and the country 939 00:55:44,892 --> 00:55:49,059 he loved so much." 940 00:55:52,426 --> 00:55:53,768 ("Somebody to Love" by Jefferson Airplane playing) 941 00:55:53,792 --> 00:55:55,093 d When the truth is found 942 00:55:55,193 --> 00:55:59,226 d To be lies 943 00:55:59,327 --> 00:56:02,162 d And all the joy 944 00:56:02,261 --> 00:56:06,595 d Within you dies 945 00:56:06,695 --> 00:56:09,063 d Don't you want somebody to love? d 946 00:56:09,163 --> 00:56:12,664 d Don't you need somebody to love? d 947 00:56:12,763 --> 00:56:16,431 d Wouldn't you love somebody to love? d 948 00:56:16,530 --> 00:56:20,899 d You better find somebody to love d 949 00:56:20,999 --> 00:56:22,832 d Love. 950 00:56:27,567 --> 00:56:30,501 MUSGRAVE: I didn't hear the word "hippie" until I was at Con Thien 951 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,009 and we got aPlaybo y, somebody got aPlayboy in the mail, 952 00:56:32,033 --> 00:56:34,935 which was obviously very important to us. 953 00:56:35,034 --> 00:56:37,134 And there was an article on Haight-Ashbury 954 00:56:37,234 --> 00:56:38,834 and pictures of the girls running around 955 00:56:38,902 --> 00:56:40,535 without their tops, you know, free love. 956 00:56:40,635 --> 00:56:42,035 And they were hippies. 957 00:56:42,135 --> 00:56:44,635 And we thought it was "hip pie" cause it had two Ps. 958 00:56:44,735 --> 00:56:46,504 You know, "Hey, I'm gonna go home 959 00:56:46,603 --> 00:56:47,937 "and be one of these hip pies 960 00:56:48,036 --> 00:56:49,612 "because the girls don't wear no clothes. 961 00:56:49,636 --> 00:56:52,037 You know, and they'll go to bed with anybody." 962 00:56:52,137 --> 00:56:53,405 You know, even I could score. 963 00:56:53,505 --> 00:56:57,439 But the only information I had of the peace movement 964 00:56:57,538 --> 00:56:59,173 came fromStars and Stripes. 965 00:56:59,272 --> 00:57:02,806 And that wasn't a real objective newspaper. 966 00:57:02,907 --> 00:57:05,240 And so I hated them 967 00:57:05,341 --> 00:57:07,240 before I ever even knew anything about them. 968 00:57:07,341 --> 00:57:09,908 ("Somebody to Love" continues) 969 00:57:13,541 --> 00:57:17,642 NARRATOR: The monsoon rains continued to make life miserable 970 00:57:17,742 --> 00:57:21,143 for John Musgrave and the other Marines at Con Thien. 971 00:57:21,243 --> 00:57:25,243 But by early November, the worst of the shelling had ended. 972 00:57:25,345 --> 00:57:28,845 American airstrikes, artillery, and Navy fire 973 00:57:28,945 --> 00:57:32,245 had taken a fearful toll on the besieging enemy. 974 00:57:34,045 --> 00:57:39,514 Before dawn on November 7, two companies of Musgrave's outfit 975 00:57:39,613 --> 00:57:42,348 were sent half a mile into the countryside 976 00:57:42,448 --> 00:57:45,748 northwest of the base to sweep the area again. 977 00:57:47,615 --> 00:57:51,249 MUSGRAVE: We got into an area that was old hedgerows 978 00:57:51,350 --> 00:57:53,450 that's grown over with jungle. 979 00:57:53,549 --> 00:57:55,918 Very difficult to see very far. 980 00:57:56,018 --> 00:57:59,085 In the clear area, we had three NVA show themselves 981 00:57:59,185 --> 00:58:02,686 and start just spraying 30 rounds out of their AKs 982 00:58:02,785 --> 00:58:03,785 and then booking. 983 00:58:03,885 --> 00:58:05,086 (gunfire) 984 00:58:05,186 --> 00:58:09,052 The company commander himself said, "I want their bodies. 985 00:58:09,152 --> 00:58:10,587 Bring me their bodies." 986 00:58:10,687 --> 00:58:13,954 Everything's about body count, right? 987 00:58:14,053 --> 00:58:17,054 We said, "Man, this is as old as Custer. 988 00:58:17,154 --> 00:58:19,554 "These guys are showing themselves to draw us 989 00:58:19,654 --> 00:58:20,788 "into an ambush. 990 00:58:20,889 --> 00:58:23,423 "Lieutenant, don't do this," you know. 991 00:58:23,523 --> 00:58:27,123 "Please, these guys are bait." 992 00:58:27,223 --> 00:58:29,424 Well, the skipper says, "We got to go. 993 00:58:29,524 --> 00:58:31,557 We got to go." 994 00:58:31,657 --> 00:58:34,958 And... we went. 995 00:58:36,093 --> 00:58:37,792 (gunfire) 996 00:58:37,892 --> 00:58:40,258 And I can't tell you a whole lot about the ambush. 997 00:58:40,359 --> 00:58:42,393 I was one of the first people to be shot. 998 00:58:42,494 --> 00:58:44,293 One round put me down. 999 00:58:44,393 --> 00:58:45,927 (gunfire) 1000 00:58:46,027 --> 00:58:49,495 And my grenadier was down, and we were trying to get him back. 1001 00:58:49,595 --> 00:58:53,696 And Marines, from the first day in boot camp, 1002 00:58:53,795 --> 00:58:56,296 you learn that Marines don't leave their dead, 1003 00:58:56,396 --> 00:58:59,930 and they never, never leave their wounded. 1004 00:59:01,364 --> 00:59:04,063 And that's why I'm alive today. 1005 00:59:04,163 --> 00:59:08,432 First guy that came for me... I was lying on my face... 1006 00:59:08,532 --> 00:59:09,932 (gunfire) 1007 00:59:10,032 --> 00:59:12,466 he reached down and stuck his arms under my shoulders 1008 00:59:12,565 --> 00:59:16,934 and lifted me up and the machine gun wasn't any far, 1009 00:59:17,034 --> 00:59:22,634 was maybe nine feet, ten feet at the most, away from me. 1010 00:59:22,734 --> 00:59:24,267 This is a very intimate ambush. 1011 00:59:24,368 --> 00:59:25,368 It's a brawl. 1012 00:59:25,468 --> 00:59:26,869 (gunfire) 1013 00:59:26,969 --> 00:59:31,036 And he fired a burst into my chest that blew me out 1014 00:59:31,135 --> 00:59:34,669 of the Marine's arms that was holding me and then he was shot. 1015 00:59:34,769 --> 00:59:37,237 (gunfire) 1016 00:59:37,337 --> 00:59:43,571 Another very brave young Marine, this 18-year-old from Louisiana, 1017 00:59:43,671 --> 00:59:46,706 his first firefight, had seen what happened 1018 00:59:46,806 --> 00:59:49,973 and still came for me. 1019 00:59:50,072 --> 00:59:54,740 And he reached for me, and he was shot I think in the forearm. 1020 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,641 And he was laying beside me. 1021 00:59:57,741 --> 00:59:59,585 Now, I've got a hole through my chest big enough 1022 00:59:59,609 --> 01:00:01,174 to stick your fist through. 1023 01:00:02,142 --> 01:00:03,342 I'm dying and I know it. 1024 01:00:03,443 --> 01:00:04,575 (gunfire) 1025 01:00:04,675 --> 01:00:07,276 And I heard this horrible screaming going on, 1026 01:00:07,377 --> 01:00:11,044 and I was trying to figure out who was screaming like that, 1027 01:00:11,143 --> 01:00:12,411 because it sounded so... 1028 01:00:12,512 --> 01:00:15,478 (distant gunfire) 1029 01:00:19,379 --> 01:00:21,046 And then I realized it was me. 1030 01:00:23,779 --> 01:00:26,214 When they began to drag us out, they were being pursued 1031 01:00:26,313 --> 01:00:30,115 by the North Vietnamese, and they would drop us 1032 01:00:30,215 --> 01:00:31,881 and lay on top of us. 1033 01:00:31,981 --> 01:00:33,315 They knew... we were both dying. 1034 01:00:33,415 --> 01:00:36,748 The grenadier had been shot in the right side of his chest. 1035 01:00:36,848 --> 01:00:38,950 They knew... we were both dead. 1036 01:00:39,050 --> 01:00:41,717 But we were still alive. 1037 01:00:41,816 --> 01:00:43,350 So, they weren't gonna leave us. 1038 01:00:43,451 --> 01:00:45,551 They would die before they would leave us. 1039 01:00:45,650 --> 01:00:47,695 And they covered us with their bodies and fired back 1040 01:00:47,719 --> 01:00:50,952 at the NVA and then they'd jump up and drag us a little farther 1041 01:00:51,052 --> 01:00:53,386 and then drop us and lay back on top of us. 1042 01:00:53,486 --> 01:00:56,352 And I kept telling them to leave me. 1043 01:00:56,453 --> 01:00:58,086 And I meant it. I meant it. 1044 01:00:58,186 --> 01:01:02,320 But all of a sudden I got scared that they might really leave me. 1045 01:01:03,687 --> 01:01:04,687 (distant gunfire) 1046 01:01:04,787 --> 01:01:07,254 I was triaged three times. 1047 01:01:07,354 --> 01:01:10,188 And the senior corpsman said, 1048 01:01:10,288 --> 01:01:11,999 "He's either shot through the heart or the lungs. 1049 01:01:12,023 --> 01:01:13,232 There's nothing I can do for him." 1050 01:01:13,256 --> 01:01:14,923 And he just turned away. 1051 01:01:15,024 --> 01:01:17,124 I went, "Well, okay." 1052 01:01:18,090 --> 01:01:21,757 And then, a helicopter came in. 1053 01:01:21,857 --> 01:01:23,425 And they threw me into the bird. 1054 01:01:23,526 --> 01:01:25,825 (distant helicopter blades humming) 1055 01:01:25,925 --> 01:01:29,159 And the corpsman on the bird straddled me, stood over me, 1056 01:01:29,259 --> 01:01:32,259 and looked down at me, and then looked up at the door gunner 1057 01:01:32,359 --> 01:01:36,160 and went... get me out of the way 1058 01:01:36,260 --> 01:01:37,336 because he couldn't work on me. 1059 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:38,895 I was a dead man. 1060 01:01:38,995 --> 01:01:40,861 (muted helicopter blades beating) 1061 01:01:40,962 --> 01:01:42,861 And they flew me to Delta Med at Dong Ha. 1062 01:01:42,963 --> 01:01:46,996 And I thought, "Okay, I made it this far." 1063 01:01:47,095 --> 01:01:48,776 And this doctor comes over and looks at me 1064 01:01:48,830 --> 01:01:50,397 and I'm conscious. 1065 01:01:50,497 --> 01:01:52,731 I'm lucid. 1066 01:01:52,830 --> 01:01:54,232 And he checks a couple of things. 1067 01:01:54,331 --> 01:01:55,608 And I've got this huge hole in me. 1068 01:01:55,632 --> 01:01:57,173 And he looks at me right in the eye, and he says, 1069 01:01:57,197 --> 01:01:58,966 "What's your religion, Marine?" 1070 01:01:59,066 --> 01:02:01,133 And I said, "Well, I'm a Protestant." 1071 01:02:01,233 --> 01:02:02,375 And he says, "Get a chaplain over here. 1072 01:02:02,399 --> 01:02:04,000 I can't help this man." 1073 01:02:04,099 --> 01:02:05,099 And then he walked away. 1074 01:02:06,467 --> 01:02:11,735 Another surgeon walks by, and he looked at me, 1075 01:02:11,834 --> 01:02:15,935 and I was raised to always be nice to people. 1076 01:02:16,036 --> 01:02:19,836 And when he looked at me, I smiled at him and nodded. 1077 01:02:19,936 --> 01:02:24,103 And he said, "Why isn't somebody helping this man?" 1078 01:02:24,203 --> 01:02:25,504 And inside I'm going, 1079 01:02:25,603 --> 01:02:27,363 "Yeah, why isn't somebody helping this man?" 1080 01:02:28,438 --> 01:02:31,371 When they put me to sleep, I thought, 1081 01:02:31,472 --> 01:02:34,506 "Boy, this is really it," you know. 1082 01:02:34,605 --> 01:02:37,205 And it was kind of, "Okay, God, 1083 01:02:37,305 --> 01:02:39,907 into your hands, I deliver my spirit." 1084 01:02:41,106 --> 01:02:42,974 And I thought that was it. 1085 01:02:44,975 --> 01:02:47,175 And when I woke up in the surgical intensive care ward, 1086 01:02:47,274 --> 01:02:49,675 which was a Quonset hut, 1087 01:02:49,775 --> 01:02:52,308 I thought, "Holy mackerel." 1088 01:02:52,409 --> 01:02:56,443 I just couldn't... I couldn't believe it. 1089 01:03:00,145 --> 01:03:01,645 Yesterday over Hanoi, 1090 01:03:01,745 --> 01:03:03,511 three American planes were shot down 1091 01:03:03,610 --> 01:03:06,246 and at least two of their pilots captured. 1092 01:03:06,345 --> 01:03:09,879 One of them was Lieutenant Commander John McCain III, 1093 01:03:09,980 --> 01:03:13,147 the son of the U.S. Naval commander in Europe. 1094 01:03:50,687 --> 01:03:54,256 NARRATOR: Hanoi was so pleased to have captured the son 1095 01:03:54,355 --> 01:03:57,756 of an American admiral that they allowed a French journalist 1096 01:03:57,855 --> 01:04:00,389 to interview McCain in the hospital. 1097 01:04:00,490 --> 01:04:04,790 He had just had his broken bones set without even an aspirin 1098 01:04:04,890 --> 01:04:06,323 for the pain. 1099 01:04:06,424 --> 01:04:07,664 INTERVIEWER: What is your name? 1100 01:04:07,723 --> 01:04:10,791 Lieutenant Commander John McCain. 1101 01:04:10,891 --> 01:04:13,958 How many raids have you done until the last one? 1102 01:04:14,059 --> 01:04:15,825 About 23. 1103 01:04:15,926 --> 01:04:20,626 In which circumstances have you been shot down? 1104 01:04:20,726 --> 01:04:25,495 I was on a flight over the city of Hanoi, 1105 01:04:25,595 --> 01:04:32,695 and I was bombing and I was hit by either a missile 1106 01:04:32,795 --> 01:04:34,496 or anti-aircraft fire. 1107 01:04:34,596 --> 01:04:41,598 I'm not sure which, and the plane continued straight down, 1108 01:04:41,697 --> 01:04:49,698 and I ejected and broke my leg and both arms 1109 01:04:50,366 --> 01:04:57,133 and went into a lake; parachuted into a lake. 1110 01:04:57,233 --> 01:05:02,102 And I was picked up by some North Vietnamese 1111 01:05:02,201 --> 01:05:08,270 and taken to the hospital, where I almost died. 1112 01:05:08,369 --> 01:05:10,636 I would just like to tell... 1113 01:05:15,004 --> 01:05:17,438 ...my wife... 1114 01:05:18,237 --> 01:05:20,805 ...I will get well... 1115 01:05:23,338 --> 01:05:30,074 ...and I love her and I hope to see her soon. 1116 01:05:31,575 --> 01:05:34,175 NARRATOR: After the interview, McCain was beaten 1117 01:05:34,275 --> 01:05:38,341 for not expressing sufficient gratitude to his captors. 1118 01:05:44,376 --> 01:05:46,044 (soldiers conversing) 1119 01:05:46,143 --> 01:05:50,579 NARRATOR: All through the fall of 1967, the North Vietnamese 1120 01:05:50,679 --> 01:05:54,411 and the Viet Cong continued their series of "Border Battles" 1121 01:05:54,512 --> 01:05:57,046 in preparation for their surprise offensive, 1122 01:05:57,145 --> 01:05:59,080 still months away. 1123 01:05:59,180 --> 01:06:02,980 Con Thien, where John Musgrave was wounded, 1124 01:06:03,081 --> 01:06:04,547 had been the first. 1125 01:06:04,646 --> 01:06:08,381 Then came the ARVN base at Song Be. 1126 01:06:08,481 --> 01:06:10,949 The South Vietnamese outpost adjacent to 1127 01:06:11,049 --> 01:06:14,183 the provincial capital of Loc Ninh was next. 1128 01:06:14,283 --> 01:06:17,216 There, large units of North Vietnamese 1129 01:06:17,316 --> 01:06:21,118 and Viet Cong regulars mounted a coordinated attack, 1130 01:06:21,217 --> 01:06:24,585 and then fought for five days to hold on to the ground 1131 01:06:24,685 --> 01:06:28,552 they'd gained, something they had never done before. 1132 01:06:28,651 --> 01:06:32,253 American commanders were puzzled. 1133 01:06:32,352 --> 01:06:36,987 Then, in early November, reports reached MACV 1134 01:06:37,088 --> 01:06:39,353 that five North Vietnamese regiments 1135 01:06:39,454 --> 01:06:43,755 and a Viet Cong battalion... some 7,000 men in all... 1136 01:06:43,854 --> 01:06:46,456 had begun massing in the Central Highlands 1137 01:06:46,555 --> 01:06:51,223 around the U.S. Special Forces camp at Dak To again. 1138 01:06:51,324 --> 01:06:55,957 Among the North Vietnamese regulars was Nguyen Thanh Son, 1139 01:06:56,056 --> 01:06:59,357 who had been so eager to fight that he too had filled 1140 01:06:59,458 --> 01:07:03,558 his pockets with rocks to pass his physical. 1141 01:07:17,695 --> 01:07:21,161 NARRATOR: As the NVA deployed their troops, 1142 01:07:21,262 --> 01:07:24,196 Westmoreland sent his to Dak To, 1143 01:07:24,297 --> 01:07:27,863 exactly what the enemy wanted him to do. 1144 01:07:27,964 --> 01:07:33,198 Among the Americans were the men of the elite 173rd Airborne, 1145 01:07:33,299 --> 01:07:36,900 Westmoreland's Fire Brigade. 1146 01:07:41,300 --> 01:07:45,500 MATT HARRISON: We all knew in a general sense that we wouldn't be brought back 1147 01:07:45,601 --> 01:07:48,535 if there wasn't something big going on. 1148 01:07:48,634 --> 01:07:54,068 You just knew that the area was crawling with North Vietnamese, 1149 01:07:54,168 --> 01:07:58,703 and that they were there not to avoid contact with us, 1150 01:07:58,804 --> 01:08:01,537 but they were there to have contact with us. 1151 01:08:02,937 --> 01:08:05,204 NARRATOR: First Lieutenant Matthew Harrison was now 1152 01:08:05,305 --> 01:08:08,071 with Alpha Company of the 2nd Battalion, 1153 01:08:08,171 --> 01:08:10,705 the same rifle company that had been ambushed 1154 01:08:10,806 --> 01:08:16,040 and so badly shattered back in June on the slopes of Hill 1338, 1155 01:08:16,139 --> 01:08:18,808 just 14 miles to the east. 1156 01:08:18,908 --> 01:08:22,542 HARRISON: This wasn't like the Viet Cong where if you could find them, 1157 01:08:22,641 --> 01:08:23,909 you could kill them. 1158 01:08:24,008 --> 01:08:25,309 Our problem wasn't finding them. 1159 01:08:25,409 --> 01:08:27,691 Our problem was what to do with them once you found them. 1160 01:08:27,742 --> 01:08:32,911 NARRATOR: The 174th NVA Regiment was waiting. 1161 01:08:33,010 --> 01:08:36,811 Nguyen Thanh Son and his men were already dug in 1162 01:08:36,911 --> 01:08:39,978 on the high ground they knew the Americans would want 1163 01:08:40,077 --> 01:08:44,813 to command: Hill 875. 1164 01:09:05,983 --> 01:09:11,217 NARRATOR: On Sunday morning, November 19, 1967, 1165 01:09:11,318 --> 01:09:14,819 Alpha, Charlie, and Delta Companies were ordered 1166 01:09:14,919 --> 01:09:17,820 to take Hill 875. 1167 01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:21,385 Matt Harrison had been wounded in an earlier fight 1168 01:09:21,486 --> 01:09:24,321 and was not permitted to accompany his men. 1169 01:09:24,421 --> 01:09:28,721 He anxiously followed their progress over the radio. 1170 01:09:28,822 --> 01:09:33,522 Heavy artillery and flights of F-100s blasted the hillside 1171 01:09:33,623 --> 01:09:37,455 ahead of them, meant to knock out enemy positions 1172 01:09:37,556 --> 01:09:40,756 before the paratroopers ever got within range. 1173 01:09:57,627 --> 01:10:00,027 NARRATOR: The three companies moved up the slope, 1174 01:10:00,128 --> 01:10:02,561 Charlie and Delta in the lead, 1175 01:10:02,660 --> 01:10:05,862 Alpha bringing up the rear. 1176 01:10:05,961 --> 01:10:09,430 The paratroopers stepped warily into a clearing 1177 01:10:09,529 --> 01:10:12,762 filled with fallen trees from the morning's bombardment 1178 01:10:12,863 --> 01:10:17,663 and only a little over 300 yards from the summit. 1179 01:10:31,099 --> 01:10:32,766 (gunfire) 1180 01:10:32,867 --> 01:10:35,868 NARRATOR: Thousands of automatic weapon rounds ripped through the air. 1181 01:10:35,967 --> 01:10:39,035 Chinese-made grenades came rolling and bumping 1182 01:10:39,136 --> 01:10:40,535 down the slopes. 1183 01:10:40,636 --> 01:10:44,870 The Americans sought cover where they could behind fallen trees, 1184 01:10:44,969 --> 01:10:47,570 scrabbled at the earth with their helmets, 1185 01:10:47,669 --> 01:10:49,871 trying to dig fighting holes. 1186 01:10:49,970 --> 01:10:52,703 (gunfire) 1187 01:10:52,804 --> 01:10:54,171 (soldiers yelling) 1188 01:10:54,271 --> 01:10:56,572 (rapid gunfire) 1189 01:10:56,671 --> 01:10:59,573 Charlie and Delta companies were pinned down 1190 01:10:59,672 --> 01:11:02,573 and being torn to pieces. 1191 01:11:02,672 --> 01:11:03,906 (gunfire) 1192 01:11:04,007 --> 01:11:05,841 Meanwhile, near the foot of the hill, 1193 01:11:05,941 --> 01:11:09,041 other North Vietnamese troops surprised Alpha Company 1194 01:11:09,142 --> 01:11:10,474 from behind. 1195 01:11:10,575 --> 01:11:13,642 They were first spotted moving up through the trees 1196 01:11:13,742 --> 01:11:17,443 by a private from the Bronx named Carlos Lozada. 1197 01:11:17,542 --> 01:11:20,709 As the men of his company scrambled up the slope, 1198 01:11:20,810 --> 01:11:22,609 dragging their wounded with them, 1199 01:11:22,709 --> 01:11:25,277 Lozada provided what cover he could, 1200 01:11:25,378 --> 01:11:28,145 firing his M-60 machine gun from his hip... 1201 01:11:28,244 --> 01:11:30,978 before a bullet hit him in the head. 1202 01:11:32,346 --> 01:11:37,179 He would be awarded a posthumous Medal of Honor. 1203 01:11:37,279 --> 01:11:41,180 Back home, the battle led the nightly news. 1204 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:42,881 (helicopter humming) 1205 01:11:42,980 --> 01:11:45,882 WALTER CRONKITE: The Battle of Dak To is now on its 19th day, 1206 01:11:45,981 --> 01:11:48,281 and already ranks among the bloodiest campaigns 1207 01:11:48,382 --> 01:11:49,816 of the Vietnam War. 1208 01:11:49,915 --> 01:11:51,549 There's no sign yet of any let-up. 1209 01:11:51,650 --> 01:11:53,182 Over the weekend, three companies 1210 01:11:53,282 --> 01:11:57,283 of the 173rd Airborne Brigade moved down this river valley, 1211 01:11:57,384 --> 01:12:00,284 up which North Vietnamese normally infiltrate, 1212 01:12:00,385 --> 01:12:03,452 until they got down here by Hill 875. 1213 01:12:03,551 --> 01:12:05,886 Then, they came under heavy fire from the hill. 1214 01:12:05,985 --> 01:12:08,086 Two of the three companies charged the hill, 1215 01:12:08,185 --> 01:12:10,053 the other stayed back as a rear guard. 1216 01:12:10,154 --> 01:12:11,486 They found a... 1217 01:12:11,587 --> 01:12:14,720 HARRISON: By early afternoon, the three companies 1218 01:12:14,821 --> 01:12:17,088 had basically been decapitated. 1219 01:12:17,187 --> 01:12:18,987 The company commanders were dead; 1220 01:12:19,088 --> 01:12:22,156 most of the officers and most of the NCOs were dead. 1221 01:12:22,255 --> 01:12:23,956 (soldiers yelling) 1222 01:12:24,055 --> 01:12:26,756 NARRATOR: The survivors from all three companies clustered 1223 01:12:26,857 --> 01:12:29,557 in the clearing and did their best to set up 1224 01:12:29,658 --> 01:12:31,324 a defensive circle. 1225 01:12:31,423 --> 01:12:36,058 American bombs and napalm pounded enemy positions 1226 01:12:36,159 --> 01:12:39,660 until it grew almost too dark to see. 1227 01:13:07,930 --> 01:13:12,765 NARRATOR: Then, another American plane roared in and dropped two bombs. 1228 01:13:12,866 --> 01:13:15,867 One landed among the hidden enemy troops. 1229 01:13:17,100 --> 01:13:21,668 The other fell directly on the Americans. 1230 01:13:21,767 --> 01:13:26,568 In a fraction of a second, 42 were killed. 1231 01:13:26,669 --> 01:13:30,603 A badly hit lieutenant managed to find a working radio. 1232 01:13:30,702 --> 01:13:34,135 "No more fucking planes," he shouted into it. 1233 01:13:34,235 --> 01:13:36,971 "You're killingus up here." 1234 01:13:37,070 --> 01:13:38,436 (explosion) 1235 01:13:38,537 --> 01:13:40,804 The fighting on the hillside continued. 1236 01:13:40,905 --> 01:13:45,339 The men ran out of water, began to run out of ammunition. 1237 01:13:45,438 --> 01:13:50,173 Helicopters that tried to ferry in supplies were shot down. 1238 01:13:51,540 --> 01:13:58,640 The following day, Matt Harrison was able to chopper in. 1239 01:13:58,740 --> 01:14:00,341 HARRISON: It was chaos. 1240 01:14:00,441 --> 01:14:03,241 It was collections of guys who had who had tunneled 1241 01:14:03,342 --> 01:14:05,543 and dug down behind trees. 1242 01:14:05,642 --> 01:14:09,076 These were guys who had gone without water in that heat 1243 01:14:09,177 --> 01:14:10,678 for two days. 1244 01:14:10,777 --> 01:14:14,777 And almost every one of them was wounded. 1245 01:14:14,878 --> 01:14:18,912 And then all around were bodies, 1246 01:14:19,011 --> 01:14:23,312 guys who had been shot and blown up. 1247 01:14:23,413 --> 01:14:25,046 It was the third circle of hell. 1248 01:14:27,813 --> 01:14:32,281 NARRATOR: On November 23, two fresh battalions of the 173rd 1249 01:14:32,382 --> 01:14:34,915 finally made it to the top of the hill, 1250 01:14:35,014 --> 01:14:37,849 for which so many had died. 1251 01:14:37,948 --> 01:14:39,715 But the night before, 1252 01:14:39,815 --> 01:14:42,716 the surviving North Vietnamese troops had slipped down 1253 01:14:42,816 --> 01:14:49,051 the other side and disappeared into Cambodia and Laos. 1254 01:14:49,150 --> 01:14:51,785 The powers that be decided it would be important 1255 01:14:51,886 --> 01:14:56,353 to our morale for us to be in on the taking the top of the hill. 1256 01:14:56,452 --> 01:15:01,688 I had 26 guys left out of a company that started out of 140, 1257 01:15:01,787 --> 01:15:04,453 and all 26 had been wounded. 1258 01:15:04,554 --> 01:15:08,855 NARRATOR: Then Harrison and his exhausted men were helicoptered 1259 01:15:08,954 --> 01:15:10,721 to the top of yet another hill. 1260 01:15:10,821 --> 01:15:12,522 (helicopter blades whirring) 1261 01:15:16,456 --> 01:15:18,691 It was Thanksgiving. 1262 01:15:18,790 --> 01:15:22,058 Chinook helicopters clattered down out of the sky, 1263 01:15:22,157 --> 01:15:25,791 carrying huge containers of hot turkey and mashed potatoes 1264 01:15:25,892 --> 01:15:30,393 and cranberry sauce so that the 173rd could have 1265 01:15:30,493 --> 01:15:32,427 their Thanksgiving dinner. 1266 01:15:32,526 --> 01:15:35,093 If there are any more remote or dangerous spots 1267 01:15:35,194 --> 01:15:37,235 to spend Thanksgiving Day in Vietnam than this one, 1268 01:15:37,260 --> 01:15:39,395 then most of these men have never seen them. 1269 01:15:39,495 --> 01:15:42,896 HARRISON: There was a TV cameraman and reporter off to the side 1270 01:15:42,996 --> 01:15:44,595 using us as a backdrop. 1271 01:15:44,696 --> 01:15:47,397 And I remember hearing the reporter intone, 1272 01:15:47,497 --> 01:15:50,563 "Today is November 23, Thanksgiving Day," 1273 01:15:50,662 --> 01:15:54,431 and I was really angry. 1274 01:15:54,530 --> 01:15:58,432 It's as though we were entertainers. 1275 01:15:59,932 --> 01:16:05,732 NARRATOR: 107 Americans had died taking Hill 875; 1276 01:16:05,832 --> 01:16:08,701 another 282 were wounded. 1277 01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:10,533 Ten more were missing. 1278 01:16:10,634 --> 01:16:14,467 The number of North Vietnamese casualties is unknown, 1279 01:16:14,568 --> 01:16:18,535 but their losses are thought to have been staggering. 1280 01:16:20,102 --> 01:16:24,469 Back in June, Matt Harrison had lost two West Point classmates 1281 01:16:24,570 --> 01:16:27,205 on Hill 1338. 1282 01:16:27,304 --> 01:16:30,337 He lost two more on Hill 875. 1283 01:16:30,438 --> 01:16:34,072 Of the eight with whom he had served in the 2nd Battalion, 1284 01:16:34,171 --> 01:16:38,472 four were now dead and two had been wounded. 1285 01:16:41,039 --> 01:16:44,508 HARRISON: To take tops of mountains in a triple canopy jungle 1286 01:16:44,607 --> 01:16:47,741 along the Cambodian-Laotian border accomplished nothing 1287 01:16:47,841 --> 01:16:50,009 of any importance. 1288 01:16:51,741 --> 01:16:56,309 The Battle for Hill 875 was, in my thinking today, 1289 01:16:56,410 --> 01:16:59,776 a microcosm of what we were doing and what went wrong 1290 01:16:59,877 --> 01:17:01,310 in Vietnam. 1291 01:17:01,411 --> 01:17:05,145 There was no reason to take that hill. 1292 01:17:05,244 --> 01:17:08,946 We literally got to the top of the hill 1293 01:17:09,045 --> 01:17:15,813 about mid-day on November 23 and sat there for, 1294 01:17:15,914 --> 01:17:17,747 I don't know, half an hour, an hour, 1295 01:17:17,847 --> 01:17:21,814 just kind of gathering ourselves and everything together. 1296 01:17:21,915 --> 01:17:25,181 Chinooks came in, took us off the hill. 1297 01:17:25,281 --> 01:17:29,150 And I doubt that there's been an American on Hill 875 1298 01:17:29,249 --> 01:17:31,316 since November 23. 1299 01:17:31,417 --> 01:17:33,683 We accomplished nothing. 1300 01:17:33,783 --> 01:17:37,317 WILLIAM WESTMORELAND: A new phase is now starting. 1301 01:17:37,418 --> 01:17:40,351 We have reached an important point when the end 1302 01:17:40,452 --> 01:17:42,720 begins to come into view. 1303 01:17:44,420 --> 01:17:47,986 NARRATOR: As Matt Harrison and his men fought for Hill 875, 1304 01:17:48,087 --> 01:17:50,721 the Johnson administration was in the midst 1305 01:17:50,820 --> 01:17:52,620 of a "Success Offensive," 1306 01:17:52,721 --> 01:17:57,588 a PR campaign aimed at shoring up support for the war 1307 01:17:57,687 --> 01:18:00,188 and the way it was being waged. 1308 01:18:00,288 --> 01:18:04,590 MACV released a new and surprisingly low estimate 1309 01:18:04,689 --> 01:18:08,624 of enemy forces to show how much damage the United States 1310 01:18:08,725 --> 01:18:10,091 had done to them. 1311 01:18:10,190 --> 01:18:14,558 It was only two-thirds of the total suggested by the CIA, 1312 01:18:14,659 --> 01:18:17,092 because, after a bitter and prolonged debate 1313 01:18:17,191 --> 01:18:20,059 behind the scenes, Westmoreland had chosen 1314 01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:23,228 to exclude from it the part-time guerrillas... 1315 01:18:23,327 --> 01:18:27,360 farmers, old men, women, even children... 1316 01:18:27,461 --> 01:18:31,194 who helped place the mines, grenades, and booby traps 1317 01:18:31,294 --> 01:18:33,362 that accounted for more than a third 1318 01:18:33,463 --> 01:18:35,995 of all American casualties. 1319 01:18:36,096 --> 01:18:39,130 General Westmoreland also told the press 1320 01:18:39,231 --> 01:18:42,763 that the impressive body counts his commanders reported 1321 01:18:42,863 --> 01:18:45,465 were "very, very conservative." 1322 01:18:45,564 --> 01:18:48,032 It probably represented, he said, 1323 01:18:48,131 --> 01:18:52,698 "50 percent or even less of the enemy that has been killed." 1324 01:18:52,798 --> 01:18:56,499 Ambassador Ellsworth Bunker joined the chorus, 1325 01:18:56,600 --> 01:19:00,300 using a metaphor first used 13 years earlier 1326 01:19:00,401 --> 01:19:02,935 by the French commander in Vietnam, 1327 01:19:03,035 --> 01:19:07,602 not long before their great defeat at Dien Bien Phu. 1328 01:19:07,701 --> 01:19:10,937 And I think we're now beginning to see light 1329 01:19:11,037 --> 01:19:12,403 at the end of the tunnel. 1330 01:19:12,502 --> 01:19:15,637 Mr. Ambassador, you talk about light at the end of the tunnel. 1331 01:19:15,738 --> 01:19:17,270 How long is this tunnel? 1332 01:19:17,370 --> 01:19:19,939 Well, I don't think that you can put it 1333 01:19:20,039 --> 01:19:25,839 into any particular timeframe, a situation like this. 1334 01:19:27,372 --> 01:19:31,706 NARRATOR: LBJ's Success Offensive succeeded. 1335 01:19:31,806 --> 01:19:35,141 The number of Americans who believed the United States 1336 01:19:35,242 --> 01:19:39,909 was making real progress in the war grew. 1337 01:19:40,008 --> 01:19:43,342 Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara 1338 01:19:43,443 --> 01:19:47,509 did not take part in the public relations campaign. 1339 01:19:47,610 --> 01:19:51,245 He had become so disillusioned with the war he'd done so much 1340 01:19:51,344 --> 01:19:53,844 to plan and prosecute that he wrote 1341 01:19:53,945 --> 01:19:56,278 another secret memo to the president, 1342 01:19:56,378 --> 01:20:00,312 advising Johnson to freeze American troop levels, 1343 01:20:00,413 --> 01:20:04,047 turn over ground operations to the South Vietnamese, 1344 01:20:04,147 --> 01:20:06,548 and halt the bombing of North Vietnam 1345 01:20:06,647 --> 01:20:09,648 "in order to bring about negotiations." 1346 01:20:09,749 --> 01:20:13,381 There was no reason to believe, McNamara wrote, 1347 01:20:13,482 --> 01:20:17,183 that the prolonged "infliction of grievous casualties, 1348 01:20:17,282 --> 01:20:19,951 "or the heavy punishment of air bombardment, 1349 01:20:20,051 --> 01:20:23,016 "will suffice to break the will of the North Vietnamese 1350 01:20:23,117 --> 01:20:24,552 "and Viet Cong. 1351 01:20:24,651 --> 01:20:27,784 "The continuation of our present course of action 1352 01:20:27,884 --> 01:20:32,753 "in Southeast Asia would be dangerous, costly in lives, 1353 01:20:32,852 --> 01:20:36,086 and unsatisfactory to the American people." 1354 01:20:36,187 --> 01:20:39,386 Johnson never responded. 1355 01:20:39,487 --> 01:20:42,520 Instead, he arranged for McNamara to become 1356 01:20:42,621 --> 01:20:45,556 the president of the World Bank. 1357 01:20:45,655 --> 01:20:49,489 McNamara would keep silent about the doubts he had harbored 1358 01:20:49,588 --> 01:20:51,690 since the beginning of the ground war 1359 01:20:51,789 --> 01:20:55,290 for the next 28 years. 1360 01:20:55,390 --> 01:20:58,390 His successor as defense secretary would be 1361 01:20:58,491 --> 01:20:59,724 Clark Clifford, 1362 01:20:59,824 --> 01:21:03,391 a prominent Washington lawyer and trusted counselor 1363 01:21:03,492 --> 01:21:06,960 to Democratic presidents, whom Johnson was sure would be 1364 01:21:07,060 --> 01:21:08,792 supportive of the war. 1365 01:21:08,892 --> 01:21:10,961 Students of Harvard... 1366 01:21:11,061 --> 01:21:14,360 NARRATOR: Meanwhile, Allard Lowenstein's yearlong search 1367 01:21:14,461 --> 01:21:16,894 for a Democratic challenger to the president 1368 01:21:16,995 --> 01:21:19,027 had finally succeeded. 1369 01:21:19,128 --> 01:21:25,096 On November 30, 1967, Minnesota senator Eugene McCarthy 1370 01:21:25,197 --> 01:21:27,064 announced that he would run. 1371 01:21:27,163 --> 01:21:29,796 This is an issue which has to be taken 1372 01:21:29,896 --> 01:21:33,330 to the people of the country in the campaign of 1968. 1373 01:21:33,431 --> 01:21:34,465 (crowd cheers) 1374 01:21:36,531 --> 01:21:39,531 NARRATOR: By the end of 1967, 1375 01:21:39,632 --> 01:21:45,099 20,057 Americans had died in Vietnam. 1376 01:21:45,201 --> 01:21:48,468 The time had come, General Westmoreland said, 1377 01:21:48,568 --> 01:21:52,435 for an "all-out offensive on all fronts." 1378 01:21:56,070 --> 01:21:59,703 But the enemy was just a month away from launching 1379 01:21:59,802 --> 01:22:02,836 an all-out offensive of its own. 1380 01:22:04,271 --> 01:22:06,192 ("Paint in Black" by the Rolling Stones playing) 1381 01:22:17,940 --> 01:22:23,840 d I see a red door and I want it painted black d 1382 01:22:23,941 --> 01:22:29,841 d No colors anymore, I want them to turn black d 1383 01:22:29,942 --> 01:22:32,143 d I see the girls walk by 1384 01:22:32,242 --> 01:22:35,944 d Dressed in their summer clothes d 1385 01:22:36,043 --> 01:22:42,145 d I have to turn my head until my darkness goes d 1386 01:22:42,244 --> 01:22:47,946 d I see a line of cars and they're all painted black d 1387 01:22:48,045 --> 01:22:53,947 d With flowers and my love, both never to come back d 1388 01:22:54,046 --> 01:23:00,015 d I see people turn their heads and quickly look away d 1389 01:23:00,114 --> 01:23:06,183 d Like a newborn baby, it just happens every day d 1390 01:23:06,284 --> 01:23:12,184 d I look inside myself and see my heart is black d 1391 01:23:12,285 --> 01:23:18,185 d I see my red door and must have it painted black d 1392 01:23:18,286 --> 01:23:24,220 d Maybe then I'll fade away and not have to face the facts d 1393 01:23:24,319 --> 01:23:30,420 d It's not easy facing up when your whole world is black d 1394 01:23:30,521 --> 01:23:36,656 d No more will my green sea go turn a deeper blue d 1395 01:23:36,755 --> 01:23:42,890 d I could not foresee this thing happening to you d 1396 01:23:42,991 --> 01:23:48,792 d If I look hard enough into the setting sun d 1397 01:23:48,891 --> 01:23:54,858 d My love will laugh with me before the morning comes d 1398 01:23:54,959 --> 01:24:00,926 d I see a red door and I want it painted black d 1399 01:24:01,027 --> 01:24:06,962 d No colors anymore, I want them to turn black d 1400 01:24:07,061 --> 01:24:09,096 d I see the girls walk by 1401 01:24:09,195 --> 01:24:13,030 d Dressed in their summer clothes d 1402 01:24:13,129 --> 01:24:19,130 d I have to turn my head until my darkness goes d 1403 01:24:19,231 --> 01:24:23,965 (humming) 1404 01:24:24,064 --> 01:24:25,431 d I wanna see it painted 1405 01:24:25,532 --> 01:24:29,233 d Painted, painted, painted black d 1406 01:24:29,332 --> 01:24:31,233 d Yeah. 1407 01:24:34,233 --> 01:24:38,233 Preuzeto sa www.titlovi.com 114433

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