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Welcome to "Last Week Tonight".
I'm John Oliver.
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Thank you so much for joining us.
It's been a busy week.
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From the U.S. vetoing a ceasefire
in Gaza yet again,
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to the revelation
that Joe Biden's dog
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bit secret service agents
at least 24 different times.
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But we're gonna start
in West Virginia,
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which has spent
the past several weeks
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debating a bill to impose
criminal penalties
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for exposing children to "obscene"
literature in schools and libraries.
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The debate has featured spectacular
testimony from concerned citizens,
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reading out material
that they objected to.
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"Are you gonna eat her pussy?"
"Yeah, I'm going to eat her pussy."
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"Hey, yeah. Do you even know
how to eat pussy?
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Papa Gaines
never sat you down, said,
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'Son, one day, you're going
to have to eat the pussy?'"
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"No. But he did teach me
how to eat a butthole."
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Look
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I admit, I don't remember that scene
from "The Giving Tree".
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But it's been a while. In retrospect,
it does make sense for the tree
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to sit the boy down
and explain how to rock the box.
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It's an important lesson.
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While that hearing was ridiculous,
the law itself is serious.
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Violating it could carry
a felony charge,
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with a penalty of $25,000
and a sentence of up to five years.
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Many have called it
a "book ban",
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although the bill's backers
push back on that,
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with one of the speakers
who supported it saying,
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"We are not banning or burning,
we are protecting."
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Although I'll tell you what
you're definitely not protecting,
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that is my ears from hearing
"eat the pussy" four times
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out of this woman's mouth.
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But while West Virginia
may not be burning books,
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obscenity bills
and similar moral panics
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are spreading around the country,
in places like Missouri,
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where a candidate
for office released this video.
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I will do this to the grooming books
when I become secretary of state.
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These books come
from a Missouri public library.
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When I'm in office,
they will burn.
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So, there is a lot not to like there,
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including that her flamethrower
is apparently fueled by liberal tears.
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Which, what? I'm not saying
the GOP's messaging is in disarray,
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but are liberal tears
the thing you love to drink
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because your enemies' sadness
tastes so sweet?
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Or is it the deadly fuel for your very
cool shark-themed flamethrower?
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'Cause you gotta pick
a fucking lane there.
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For now,
let's turn to Alabama,
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which has been reeling after a
major decision from its highest court.
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This morning,
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a first-of-its-kind decision
by the Alabama Supreme Court
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that could put at risk
families' access
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to fertility treatments
in the post-Roe.
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The court determining frozen embryos
qualify as people under its state law,
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ruling, "unborn children
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are 'children' without exception
based on developmental stage."
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Yeah. They ruled frozen embryos
are the same as people,
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which is wrong
for a bunch of reasons,
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mainly, if you freeze an embryo,
it's fine.
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If you freeze a person,
you have some explaining to do.
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Now, that ruling could have
massive implications
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for anyone who needs IVF
to conceive,
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and that is a lot of people.
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Around 2% of babies born in the U.S.
are from IVF.
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Already, multiple fertility clinics
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have paused treatment
in the wake of this decision,
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which, as anyone who's ever
undergone IVF will tell you,
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isn't something you can just do.
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IVF cycles take weeks of careful
monitoring and expensive treatments.
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You can't just hit pause
and wait out a court case.
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This is a seismic decision,
and the reason the court
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was hearing this case to begin with
was pretty wild.
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The case in question involved a patient
who managed to access
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the freezer storing frozen embryos
at an Alabama fertility clinic.
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The patient picked up
multiple embryos
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and mistakenly
dropped and destroyed them.
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The court ruled that the clinic
could be sued for wrongful death.
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And while that accident
is genuinely horrible,
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someone wandering into a lab
and dropping frozen embryos
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just isn't murder.
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If anything, it sounds like the script
for a pretty tasteless Mr. Bean sequel,
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but that is it.
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The reason clinics
are pausing treatment right now
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is that nobody quite knows
what it could mean for an embryo
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to be legally equivalent
to a person going forward.
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What happens if an embryo
is stored improperly?
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What if they're,
as inevitably happens,
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left over or destroyed
in the implantation process?
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What about genetic testing, which
can reduce the risk of miscarriage,
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but does carry a slight
risk of damaging embryos?
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Would that now be considered
a wrongful death?
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It is chaos, and experts say
that courts in other states
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could try
and issue similar rulings.
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But none of this
should be that surprising.
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This ruling is a natural outgrowth
of the concept of "fetal personhood",
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long pushed by hardline
anti-abortion groups,
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which Republicans have
spent decades courting.
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And some politicians suddenly
seem alarmed to have to deal
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with the consequences of a movement
that they have actively empowered.
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Nikki Haley spent the week
trying to reconcile her position
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that "When you're talking about an
embryo, you're talking about a life,"
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with what that actually means
in legal terms.
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Meanwhile, watch as Alabama Senator
Tommy Tuberville
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seemed to realize the problems
with his position in real time.
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Do you have a reaction
to the Alabama Supreme Court
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ruling on the fact
that embryos are children?
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Yeah, I was all for it.
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We need to have more kids,
to have an opportunity to do that.
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And I thought that this was
the right thing to do.
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But IVF is used to have
more children,
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and now IVF services are paused
at some of the clinics in Alabama.
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Aren't you concerned
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that this could impact
people who are trying to have kids?
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That's for another conversation.
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Senator, what do you say
to the women right now in Alabama
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who no longer have access
to IVF and will not
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as a result of this ruling?
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What do you say to them?
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That's a hard one.
It really is. It's really hard.
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You want people
to have that opportunity.
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And that's what I was telling her,
we need more kids.
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Guess what, Tommy?
I got great news!
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Since your political philosophy
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seems to begin and end
with "we need more kids",
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you'll be thrilled to know
that thanks to a judge in Alabama,
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there's now whole freezers
full of them!
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Go play with all those
frosty kids, Senator!
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Or maybe that's not what you had
in mind when you think of children,
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which is exactly
the fucking point here.
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Republicans are in a tough spot
right now,
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trying to hold onto hardline
anti-abortion forces,
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while not alienating
the majority of Americans.
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And maybe the best current example
of this is Donald Trump.
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He issued a statement this week
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that he strongly supports
the availability of IVF
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for couples who are trying
to have a precious baby,
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something he referred
to as "the ultimate joy in life",
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all caps, exclamation mark.
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And it's incredible how even
objectively wholesome sentences
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take on an air of creepiness
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when passed through the chaotic
Trump punctuation filter.
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Meanwhile, he's also been privately
floating a federal ban on abortion
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at the 16-week mark,
reportedly saying,
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"Know what I like about 16?
It's even. It's four months".
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And I will say,
starting any sentence with,
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"You know what I like about 16,"
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should be off limits for anyone who has
this many photos with Jeffrey Epstein.
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But while Trump might think 16 weeks
is the reasonable option,
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which it isn't,
anti-abortion forces
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are hoping to use a second Trump term
to go much, much further.
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One tool they're apparently eager
to use is the Comstock Act,
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an 1873 law
that criminalizes the shipping
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of any materials used in an abortion,
including abortion pills,
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with one of Trump's lawyers
saying,
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"We don't need a federal ban when
we have Comstock on the books".
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It was one of the key pretexts
in last year's mifepristone ruling,
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and Lindsey Graham actually
cited Comstock when defending it.
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The idea of mailing the drug,
sending the drug through the mail,
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runs into a statute
called the Comstock Act.
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It's a very old statute
on the books.
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Do you believe
that the Supreme Court should use that
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as a way
to ban this abortion pill?
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I think it's a law on the books.
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I guess it's not that surprising
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that Graham's endorsement of a law
boils down to "it's on the books",
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given that "it's old and it's there"
sums up Lindsey Graham at this point.
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He seems determined
to stay in the Senate
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- until he can complete his "Animorphs"
- style transformation into Beaker.
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And he's getting close.
He's only a couple of steps away.
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But he is right, the Comstock Act
is technically there.
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Meaning a Trump administration,
or the judges he appoints,
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could try using it to restrict abortion
without going through Congress.
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Which is both alarming,
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and something many pro-life figures
are anxious to keep quiet for now.
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That Trump lawyer that I mentioned
even said of him
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"I hope he doesn't know
about the existence of Comstock,
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because I just don't want him
to shoot off his mouth.
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I think the pro-life groups
should keep their mouths shut
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as much as possible
until the election."
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But whenever they don't want
to talk about something,
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it's probably worth
you knowing about it.
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So, for the record, the Comstock Act
is named after Anthony Comstock,
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a 19th-century anti-sex crusader
and postal inspector
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who was, and I quote,
a "chronic masturbator",
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who believed
it was physically harmful,
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so launched a crusade
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to stamp out the transmission and
transportation of all obscene material.
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Imagine jerking off so much you make it
a matter of national security.
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The Comstock Act
forbade sending by mail
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"every obscene, lewd,
lascivious, indecent,
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filthy or vile article, matter,
thing, device, or substance,"
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as well as "every article
or thing designed, adapted,
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or intended
for producing abortion."
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That is the clause abortion opponents
have been using on mifepristone,
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and they hope to expand it
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to cover the shipping of literally
anything an abortion requires.
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So, the Comstock Act is a wild
law, pushed for by a deeply weird,
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dangerously horny man,
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that may soon be determining
all our reproductive freedoms.
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It's worth noting that Comstock
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was also a leader in the New York
Society for the Suppression of Vice,
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whose seal, fun fact,
depicted someone burning books.
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Which, to be fair,
conservatives don't do anymore.
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As we all know,
they use flamethrowers now.
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That is the thing that ties everything
I've just talked about here together,
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there are politicians
currently desperately trying
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to distance themselves from extreme
policies that they have enabled.
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You can say "We're not trying
to ban or burn books",
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but that's what's happening.
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You can say
"We just want more kids",
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but you're making life
incredibly hard for people,
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including those
who desperately want them.
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Burning books and ending IVF
are the natural endpoints
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of the extreme policies
they've held hands with,
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and if they are not at least willing
to own those consequences,
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then they can, in the words
of what I believe to be
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this country's greatest
public speaker
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Eat a butthole.
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Well said. Well said, indeed.
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And now, this!
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And Now
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More Explicit Readings From
Concerned Citizens at Public Meetings.
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"The boy just talked soft to her
about how good she looked
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at things like that
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and she grabbed his penis with
her hands and starting moving it."
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"It felt so good, so fucking good,
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I don't know how people
do anything but have sex
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if they are adults
and don't have school or parents."
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"Ildy was on top of Valencia,
making love to her.
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While Billy was making love to her,
Billy made a noise like a rusty hinge.
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He had just emptied
his seminal vesicles into Valencia."
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"Now before this,
I had sucked my share of dicks
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and had gotten plenty of blowjobs,
handjobs, every kind of job.
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But the only butt sex
I'd had was with this junior
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who was in love with my cock
and he just hopped aboard."
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"And I pull and I suck
until he grows hard
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and he makes sounds
that means he likes it,
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and I keep going and going.
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And when he says
'I'm going to cum,' I don't pull away.
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The jet of him is warm and salty
and tastes like thickened sweat."
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"You can eat a girl out
and blow some air inside of her
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or you can fuck her too hard."
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"My only challenge is Brian,
who is my jerkoff friend,
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who likes to jerk me off."
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"Son, I don't have time for that.
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I've got like 20 pussies over here
that I need to eat." "Is that right?"
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"I'm on pussy deadline."
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"I didn't have a hard-on anymore.
That might some weird to say.
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It's also fucking complicated
and tragic and life sucks."
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Just want to mention,
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I've never said the F-word ever
in my life before until just now, so.
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Moving on.
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Our main story tonight
concerns the internet.
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It can be a magical place,
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but also one where things
aren't always what they seem,
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as this woman learned
the hard way.
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Queen Shaydonna Haynesworth
thought she bought this,
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the Instagram ad displaying a tree
that fits in a living room,
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not the palm of her hand.
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This is the rainbow
Christmas tree?
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Like, seriously?
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Like, who
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Who is responsible for this?
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It must've been pretty disappointing
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to order a full-size tree
and get whatever that is.
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She must've felt like HBO did
when they ordered a comedy show
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and got this instead.
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Unfortunately,
not every mistake is that benign.
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It is not news that there are
scammers on the internet,
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but you may have noticed
that one scam in particular
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is currently everywhere.
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A common way
that it starts is with a weird text
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from a number
you don't recognize,
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like "Cheryl, can we move lunch
to 5:00?" when you're not Cheryl.
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Or "Dave, what time is our flight?"
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when you're not Dave
and you don't have a flight booked.
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Even as we worked on this piece,
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multiple members of our staff and their
friends were getting these messages,
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from "Hello, is this the manager Jesse
from the flower shop?"
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to this one, reading
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"Is this Dr. John? I'm Emily,
is my horse recovering well?"
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I'm so glad that wasn't sent to me,
'cause it would have worked.
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You're calling me Dr. John?
I'm instantly on board.
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And you're assuming I'm around
a horse for medical reasons?
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That's exactly
what I've been saying!
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I'm allowed to touch it like that.
I'm a doctor!
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And I know most people
ignore messages like those.
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But some write back,
get sucked into a conversation,
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and eventually,
through a process that we'll get into,
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can end up
losing a lot of money.
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It's a scam with a striking name that
newscasters can't seem to get over.
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It's called
a pig butchering scam.
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And it might sound
like a gruesome name,
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but that's because the amount
of money victims are losing is painful.
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The scammers have a terrible term
for what Wendy went through.
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They call it pig butchering.
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The New Mexico Securities Division
calls them "pig butchering scams".
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I know, but don't worry, there are no
pigs, or any other animals involved.
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Yes, don't worry, there are no pigs
harmed in this pig butchering scam.
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Although, if the words do make
you squeamish, it's worth noting
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that there is a process through
which pigs are harmed every day.
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It's actually how we get bacon,
pork, and other products.
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It's called pig butchering,
and it's exactly what it sounds like.
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But the name
makes a little more sense
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once you understand
how the scam actually works.
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In the world of cyber
and counterterrorism threats,
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Special Agent Hassani
has seen it all.
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But in 2021, he began seeing
a new scam: pig butchering.
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But it just refers
to raising little piglets,
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fattening them up,
and butchering them.
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And they're fattening up their victim
with illusions of grandeur,
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of wealth, of love,
before bleeding them dry.
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That is rough. Because imagine
being a victim of this scam,
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turning on the news,
and suddenly learning
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that the shorthand for people
in your situation is "the pigs".
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Although, I will say, it could have
been worse. Pigs are awesome!
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They're one of the most intelligent
animals on the planet.
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They're smarter than dogs, most
three-year-olds, and Tom Sandoval.
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To use a phrase that the police
never seem to appreciate,
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it's actually an honor
to be compared to a pig!
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And if you are thinking,
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"This seems like the kind of scam
that's been around for decades."
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That is partially true. But the way
this one works is fairly new.
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And in the short time that it's been
around, it's been massively successful.
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Just this month, it was at the center
of a huge local news story in Kansas,
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where it brought down
a financial institution.
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I was surprised.
I was shocked. I was disappointed.
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Kansas State Bank commissioner
David Herndon
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is talking about the massive
cryptocurrency scam
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at the Heartland Tri-State Bank
in Elkhart.
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In a cryptocurrency scheme
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that the FBI has now referred to
as pig butchering.
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In this case, Herndon says,
the victim was Shan Hanes,
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the bank's own CEO.
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And he's now facing charges
of embezzling nearly $50 million,
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a loss that caused the bank
to fail last August.
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That's true. According to prosecutors,
a bank CEO got pig-butchered,
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sent his scammer the bank's holdings,
and the bank went under.
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Which is alarming for several reasons,
among them, is that how banks work?
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'Cause it really feels like there
should be at least one step between
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"CEO gets tricked"
and "Whoops! The bank's empty."
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It's estimated that, as of 2022,
this scam was taking people
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for more than $3 billion a year
in the U.S. alone.
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And that's almost certainly
a massive undercount,
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as it only includes people
who reported their losses to the FBI.
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So, given all of that, tonight,
let's talk about pig butchering.
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Why it's easier to fall
for than you might think,
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who's behind it, and what
we can do to protect ourselves
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and our liked ones from getting
scammed in the future.
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And let's start with where this began.
And to do that, unfortunately,
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we do need to go back to the place
that no one wants to go:
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the beginning of Covid.
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You remember Covid.
It's the Stephen Miller of diseases,
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in that we were all very worried
about it a few years ago
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and have since moved on even though
it's still extremely dangerous.
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But that is when
pig butchering took off.
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Basically, at the start of Covid,
many of us were isolated and lonely,
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desperately looking
for human contact online,
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which made us ripe targets.
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At the same time,
organized crime groups in China,
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running casinos in southeast Asia,
were in crisis,
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as, thanks to the pandemic,
gamblers weren't showing up.
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So, "they turned those casinos into
bases for online scam operations".
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And from there,
their workers identified people
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and preyed
on their vulnerabilities.
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And let me walk you
through the basic steps here.
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The first is to make contact
and lure your target in.
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Listen to this woman
explain how her scammer,
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who called himself "Jimmy",
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contacted her at a moment
when she was dealing
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with cancer, the pandemic,
and the end of her marriage.
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First message,
it came as a very innocent message.
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I said, "Wrong number".
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He came back.
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And I said yes. He had moved here
just before Covid,
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and then Covid hit,
and so he's not able to go home.
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He was a
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A lonely man in need of
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comfort.
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Jimmy would message me
every day.
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I do remember receiving
these emojis with hearts.
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It's quite flattering
for a middle-aged woman
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to meet a young man
who finds you attractive.
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Yeah, of course, that's flattering.
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Because scammers
are telling their targets
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what they want to hear
most in that moment.
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We might not all fall for a GIF
of a heart-pumping emoji,
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but if someone sent me
"nerd with glasses" plus "football"
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plus "learning" plus "sad statistics"
equals "fire emoji," me personally?
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Why, I would nut!
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One way of making contact
is through those "wrong number" texts.
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But experts that we've talked
to estimate that they only make up
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about a quarter of the initial
contacts for this scam.
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The rest can come
through sites like LinkedIn,
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dating apps, Instagram,
or Facebook,
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places specifically designed for you
to meet people that you don't know,
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either for love, a hook up,
or, in the case of LinkedIn,
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to find out what kind of person
is still on fucking LinkedIn.
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And scammers often research
their target using social media,
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where there is a lot of information
about people,
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so they can pretend
to have something in common.
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Take this woman,
who met someone on a dating app,
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only to discover that they shared
an unexpected connection.
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He started asking questions about
my family and my past experiences.
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It was a connection
that felt even stronger, she says,
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when he told her he came
from the same town in China
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from where Hutchinson
was adopted.
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We bonded over that.
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I bet they did!
And I've got to say,
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it says something about men
on dating apps
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that they connected so well
simply because he did things
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like ask her questions about herself
and listen to her responses.
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I don't want to say
the bar for men is low,
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but that story started with him
asking her questions about her life
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and ends with her giving him
all of her money.
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But regardless of how they start,
sooner or later,
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we move on to step two:
turning the conversation toward money.
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But even then,
there's a smart twist.
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Because you won't be suddenly asked
to wire money to a Nigerian prince
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with an obviously fake email like
"real-pr1nce",
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spelled with a one instead of an I,
"at-scum-dot-farts".
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With pig butchering,
there's no direct ask for money at all.
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Instead, an opportunity
gets presented to you.
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Watch as this man explains the moment
when a guy that he met on a dating site
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started to reel him in.
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He spent at least a month daily
talking to me
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and cultivating my friendship.
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Initially, the only talk about money
was how much his new online friend
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had made in crypto.
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After all, Scott thought he knew
how to protect himself from scams.
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"You can invest with me
and I'll make you all this money,"
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and I was like, "I'm not giving
you money, that's not happening."
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So, that's when he started
"No, you don't give it to me.
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You establish your own
account and I'll guide you."
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Right. That's the clever hook here.
You're not sending the scammer money,
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they're helping you set up
and control your own account.
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Everything seems more legitimate
when there's an app involved.
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You don't think so? When is
the last time you took an Uber?
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Get in a nondescript car
with someone I've never met?
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I would never do that!
But wait, what's this?
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I can do it from my phone?
In that case, here's my address,
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now you know where I live and
that I won't be home for the evening.
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My name's John, I don't know
your last name but that doesn't matter
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'cause I'm also not committing
your face to memory.
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Everything's safe,
there's an app involved!
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And the fact the investment
is often in crypto
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can be persuasive
for multiple reasons.
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First, who really knows
how crypto works?
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I know your friend's weird husband
claims that he does,
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but he sucks to talk to, so sadly,
it must remain a mystery.
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But people have made money on crypto,
so it's not unreasonable
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to think you might meet one of them
and they could give you some tips.
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On top of which,
you may not be super familiar
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with how a trading platform operates
or even what one looks like.
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And scammers have created
incredibly plausible-looking platforms.
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We got this footage of one,
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which seems to have all the detail
and functionality of a real one,
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and I'll be honest,
I could be fooled by that.
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Also, some scammers
use legitimate apps
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that allow anyone
to build a trading exchange.
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The problem is, there are tools
that scammers can use
460
00:23:36,100 --> 00:23:39,939
to simulate fake results on those apps,
while taking your money.
461
00:23:40,020 --> 00:23:44,100
Watch this journalist explain how
this gave one victim false confidence.
462
00:23:44,419 --> 00:23:46,379
In MetaTrader, it looks just like
463
00:23:46,459 --> 00:23:50,179
any kind of normal trading interface
that one would use.
464
00:23:50,260 --> 00:23:53,500
It's available in the Google Play Store.
It's available on the Apple App Store.
465
00:23:53,580 --> 00:23:56,260
It's an app
that has a lot of good ratings,
466
00:23:56,340 --> 00:23:58,459
and that was one
of the things that made Cy think
467
00:23:58,540 --> 00:24:00,780
that this whole operation
was legitimate.
468
00:24:01,100 --> 00:24:04,379
He believed that his investment
was making money.
469
00:24:04,859 --> 00:24:07,020
If you're trading
on a legitimate trading interface,
470
00:24:07,100 --> 00:24:10,060
right, you see the profits
and losses over time.
471
00:24:10,379 --> 00:24:11,980
And this is exactly what he saw.
472
00:24:12,699 --> 00:24:15,060
If your friend told you
to download an app,
473
00:24:15,139 --> 00:24:17,699
and you saw it in the App Store
with good reviews,
474
00:24:17,780 --> 00:24:19,980
you might assume
everything on it was legitimate,
475
00:24:20,060 --> 00:24:22,060
even before you saw
MetaTrader's logo,
476
00:24:22,139 --> 00:24:25,619
which looks like three men in suits
jerking each other off under a table,
477
00:24:26,060 --> 00:24:29,580
a metaphor for cryptocurrency
if I have ever seen one.
478
00:24:30,619 --> 00:24:33,300
Some scammers
even set up additional features
479
00:24:33,379 --> 00:24:36,659
like two-factor authentication
or customer service lines.
480
00:24:36,740 --> 00:24:39,219
This woman tried her best
to do due diligence
481
00:24:39,300 --> 00:24:40,820
on the site that she was sent,
482
00:24:40,899 --> 00:24:42,899
and came away
convinced that it was real.
483
00:24:43,540 --> 00:24:46,699
There was a legal secretary
involved in another state,
484
00:24:46,780 --> 00:24:50,100
vouching association with a law firm
where it was sending money to.
485
00:24:50,419 --> 00:24:55,699
She's real. I could verify her, so it
was very complex and well-rehearsed.
486
00:24:56,139 --> 00:25:00,780
Right. She spoke with a legal secretary
and a law firm before sending money.
487
00:25:00,859 --> 00:25:03,699
And that is more vetting than
I've done for my kids' daycare.
488
00:25:04,060 --> 00:25:07,379
I love them, they're precious to me,
but they're also loud, sticky,
489
00:25:07,459 --> 00:25:09,659
and one of them is just getting
stronger and stronger every day,
490
00:25:09,980 --> 00:25:13,980
so if you have a building with walls
and a phone number that I can call,
491
00:25:14,060 --> 00:25:16,459
I trust you,
take them for the afternoon.
492
00:25:17,060 --> 00:25:18,500
And at this point in the process,
493
00:25:18,580 --> 00:25:20,939
things might look pretty good
for the people getting scammed.
494
00:25:21,020 --> 00:25:23,820
You've sent a bit of money
to a legitimatelooking site,
495
00:25:23,899 --> 00:25:25,219
through an account
that you control.
496
00:25:25,300 --> 00:25:28,260
And your new friend's trading tips
seem to be working,
497
00:25:28,340 --> 00:25:30,300
so maybe you send
a little bit more.
498
00:25:30,379 --> 00:25:32,780
And pretty soon, you might
have a fair amount of money
499
00:25:32,859 --> 00:25:34,699
tied up on this trading platform.
500
00:25:34,780 --> 00:25:37,219
But when you eventually
go to withdraw it,
501
00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:39,619
that is where we hit the
final step of this process.
502
00:25:40,060 --> 00:25:41,379
Remember that woman
you saw earlier,
503
00:25:41,459 --> 00:25:44,820
whose online friend claimed that he was
from the town where she was born?
504
00:25:44,899 --> 00:25:47,580
Well, she'd convinced her
dad to invest as well,
505
00:25:47,659 --> 00:25:50,980
they'd seemingly made a bunch
of money, and then this happened.
506
00:25:51,740 --> 00:25:56,219
By December, their accounts showed
a combined balance of $1.2 million,
507
00:25:56,540 --> 00:25:59,540
and Hutchinson decided
it was time to cash out.
508
00:26:00,060 --> 00:26:03,379
That's when the site told her,
before she could withdraw her money,
509
00:26:03,459 --> 00:26:07,980
she'd have to pay a hefty tax bill
of roughly $380,000.
510
00:26:08,619 --> 00:26:10,859
That's when I was like
"Something's not right".
511
00:26:11,179 --> 00:26:14,580
It wasn't. The cryptocurrency
investments weren't real.
512
00:26:15,020 --> 00:26:18,699
All her and her father's funds
had gone into the scammer's pockets.
513
00:26:19,139 --> 00:26:22,459
In all, $390,000 stolen.
514
00:26:23,179 --> 00:26:27,020
I messed up my life.
I messed up my dad's life.
515
00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:29,780
She told me
that it was all a scam.
516
00:26:29,859 --> 00:26:31,699
Hutchinson's father, Melvin.
517
00:26:31,780 --> 00:26:36,219
And all I could do was just hug her
and tell her, it's okay.
518
00:26:36,899 --> 00:26:39,939
It's okay. And it was hard.
519
00:26:40,939 --> 00:26:43,020
It was hard,
'cause we lost everything.
520
00:26:43,859 --> 00:26:45,740
Yeah, their money
had already gone,
521
00:26:45,820 --> 00:26:49,300
and that tax bill was just an attempt
to squeeze them one last time.
522
00:26:49,859 --> 00:26:51,740
And theirs
isn't the only brutal story here.
523
00:26:51,820 --> 00:26:56,619
This woman lost $350,000.
This guy lost 300,000.
524
00:26:56,699 --> 00:26:58,619
And that woman
who fell for "Jimmy"
525
00:26:58,699 --> 00:27:00,699
sent him two and a half
million dollars,
526
00:27:00,780 --> 00:27:02,740
as she was dealing
with terminal cancer.
527
00:27:03,340 --> 00:27:05,500
It is traumatic
and it's humiliating
528
00:27:05,580 --> 00:27:08,540
and it took courage
for those people to come forward.
529
00:27:08,619 --> 00:27:10,179
That is partly
why experts think
530
00:27:10,260 --> 00:27:13,060
the $3 billion figure
that we have is way too low,
531
00:27:13,139 --> 00:27:15,139
because most people
who've been scammed like this
532
00:27:15,219 --> 00:27:18,060
simply don't report their losses
out of embarrassment.
533
00:27:18,139 --> 00:27:20,060
And at this point,
you're probably furious
534
00:27:20,139 --> 00:27:22,459
with the people on the other end
of all of these messages,
535
00:27:22,540 --> 00:27:25,619
and want to see them taken down,
or, at the very least, fucked with.
536
00:27:26,020 --> 00:27:27,780
And that does happen a lot.
537
00:27:28,260 --> 00:27:30,980
People post screengrabs messing
with scammers all the time,
538
00:27:31,060 --> 00:27:33,619
like in this exchange, where someone
replies to "wrong number"
539
00:27:33,699 --> 00:27:36,020
with "My name is Inigo Montoya",
540
00:27:36,459 --> 00:27:40,580
and, "You don't by any chance have six
fingers on your right hand, do you?"
541
00:27:41,260 --> 00:27:43,939
Or this one, where a scammer writes
"I'm Sarah, nice to meet you",
542
00:27:44,020 --> 00:27:47,379
with a picture, and gets the reply
"Weewoo weewoo. Boner alert".
543
00:27:47,699 --> 00:27:49,859
And look, I'll be honest,
544
00:27:49,939 --> 00:27:52,659
that doesn't seem
like the right sound to me.
545
00:27:52,740 --> 00:27:55,939
That's not what I would've gone
with "a-woo-ga, a-woo-ga, boner alert".
546
00:27:56,540 --> 00:27:58,659
But reasonable people can disagree,
all bodies are different,
547
00:27:58,740 --> 00:28:01,699
there's no one right sound
for a boner alert.
548
00:28:02,899 --> 00:28:05,939
But here is the thing,
as cathartic as that might be,
549
00:28:06,020 --> 00:28:08,139
the person on the other end
of that phone
550
00:28:09,020 --> 00:28:11,419
might not be
the one you should be mad at.
551
00:28:11,500 --> 00:28:14,540
'Cause remember when I said that
this was being done in former casinos
552
00:28:14,619 --> 00:28:16,379
by organized crime syndicates?
553
00:28:16,459 --> 00:28:18,580
It turns out,
they're not great bosses.
554
00:28:19,100 --> 00:28:21,540
This compound is where
an Indian man named Rakesh
555
00:28:21,899 --> 00:28:25,419
says he was forced to work
for more than 11 months without pay
556
00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:27,260
for a Chinese criminal gang.
557
00:28:27,340 --> 00:28:29,740
Rakesh, who doesn't want
to be identified,
558
00:28:29,820 --> 00:28:33,379
says he first flew to Thailand
for what he thought was an IT job.
559
00:28:34,060 --> 00:28:37,859
Instead, he says he was tricked
into crossing the border to Myanmar
560
00:28:38,260 --> 00:28:41,939
where a Chinese gangster
told him to work, or else.
561
00:28:42,659 --> 00:28:45,699
- He threatened to kill you.
- Yeah. He warned me like that.
562
00:28:46,020 --> 00:28:47,980
And the job?
Spend 16 hours a day
563
00:28:48,300 --> 00:28:52,100
on social media targeting Americans
with a fake profile.
564
00:28:52,659 --> 00:28:53,939
That is awful.
565
00:28:54,619 --> 00:28:59,020
No one should be forced to spend
16 hours a day on social media.
566
00:28:59,100 --> 00:29:00,780
You should do it either
because you love it,
567
00:29:00,859 --> 00:29:04,540
or because you are 15 years old and
the algorithm has addicted you to it.
568
00:29:04,619 --> 00:29:08,060
Completely normal reasons.
A lot of these organizations
569
00:29:08,500 --> 00:29:10,659
are using people
who've been human trafficked,
570
00:29:10,740 --> 00:29:14,100
after being lured to the compounds
under false pretenses.
571
00:29:14,179 --> 00:29:16,780
They are actually victims
of a scam themselves.
572
00:29:16,859 --> 00:29:20,500
Basically, they might see job ads
for skilled positions as translators,
573
00:29:20,580 --> 00:29:22,740
or IT specialists,
in another country.
574
00:29:22,820 --> 00:29:25,260
They then go through
a whole application process,
575
00:29:25,340 --> 00:29:29,459
with some going through "up to four
seemingly legitimate online interviews"
576
00:29:29,540 --> 00:29:31,260
and fly to their new job.
577
00:29:31,340 --> 00:29:32,580
At which point,
they suddenly learn
578
00:29:32,659 --> 00:29:35,980
their new bosses have their documents
and they now can't leave.
579
00:29:36,500 --> 00:29:40,980
Back in 2022, ProPublica estimated
that tens of thousands of people
580
00:29:41,060 --> 00:29:42,820
had been tricked in this way.
581
00:29:42,899 --> 00:29:46,899
A more recent UN report estimated
that hundreds of thousands of people
582
00:29:46,980 --> 00:29:49,300
have been forcibly engaged
in this scheme.
583
00:29:49,379 --> 00:29:52,859
They also say "most victims
are confined to the scam compound,
584
00:29:52,939 --> 00:29:54,580
and their screens
are always monitored
585
00:29:54,659 --> 00:29:56,780
by the members
of the organized crime group."
586
00:29:56,859 --> 00:29:59,780
And once they are in,
they are provided fake profiles
587
00:29:59,859 --> 00:30:01,619
to try and hook people in with.
588
00:30:01,699 --> 00:30:04,179
Here is who Rakesh
found himself being all day.
589
00:30:04,740 --> 00:30:06,260
I got a Russian girl.
590
00:30:06,619 --> 00:30:09,859
With using a Russian girl fake profile,
I need to scam the people.
591
00:30:10,179 --> 00:30:14,060
Posing as a Salt Lake City-based
investor named Klara Semonov,
592
00:30:14,379 --> 00:30:17,459
Rakesh flirted online
with potential targets.
593
00:30:17,780 --> 00:30:21,179
70 to 80% fall for fake love.
594
00:30:21,820 --> 00:30:24,899
Yeah, Rakesh was Klara Semonov
from Salt Lake City.
595
00:30:24,980 --> 00:30:26,139
So, before we go any further,
596
00:30:26,219 --> 00:30:30,899
anyone who thinks that they are
dating Klara, I'm afraid you are not.
597
00:30:31,699 --> 00:30:35,179
The relationship is over.
It's not you, but it's also not her.
598
00:30:35,260 --> 00:30:38,260
It's Rakesh.
But also, it isn't him.
599
00:30:38,340 --> 00:30:40,659
It's Rakesh's boss,
who won't let him leave.
600
00:30:41,300 --> 00:30:43,540
The whole operation
is highly organized
601
00:30:43,619 --> 00:30:47,340
and set up to get around the usual ways
that you might detect a scam.
602
00:30:47,419 --> 00:30:51,260
Some organizations generate
their own photos for the profiles,
603
00:30:51,340 --> 00:30:53,939
so that they can't be
reverse-image searched.
604
00:30:54,020 --> 00:30:55,340
And employees are given manuals,
605
00:30:55,419 --> 00:30:58,500
like these that guide them
through every step of the process.
606
00:30:58,580 --> 00:31:01,260
They're told to target people
who look wealthy and successful.
607
00:31:01,340 --> 00:31:03,980
One advises on the first day,
talk about things
608
00:31:04,060 --> 00:31:06,939
like your name, age,
occupation, and hobbies.
609
00:31:07,020 --> 00:31:09,500
Then, the next day, talk about
your emotional experience,
610
00:31:09,580 --> 00:31:12,260
with a message
divided into two paragraphs.
611
00:31:12,340 --> 00:31:15,619
And then, on the third day, talk
about your entrepreneurial experience.
612
00:31:15,699 --> 00:31:18,820
They're even given tips on how
to break down people's defenses.
613
00:31:19,820 --> 00:31:22,139
We reviewed
several of these manuals
614
00:31:22,219 --> 00:31:24,939
and they carefully explain
how to build trust
615
00:31:25,020 --> 00:31:28,580
and exploit weaknesses
in their so-called client, such as
616
00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:31,540
"Be funny,
make clients fall in love with you
617
00:31:31,899 --> 00:31:34,219
so deeply
that they forget everything".
618
00:31:34,300 --> 00:31:36,659
The chilling thing is,
that's kind of true.
619
00:31:37,179 --> 00:31:39,859
If you're funny enough, you can make
people forget a lot of things,
620
00:31:39,939 --> 00:31:42,179
whether it's common-sense
internet safeguards,
621
00:31:42,260 --> 00:31:44,020
lessons from previous relationships,
622
00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:46,500
or that they've been accidentally
learning about financial fraud
623
00:31:46,580 --> 00:31:49,060
and human trafficking
for the last 20 minutes.
624
00:31:49,139 --> 00:31:52,060
We're having fun, aren't we?
And if you're thinking
625
00:31:52,139 --> 00:31:55,260
"Why don't authorities just
shut these compounds down?"
626
00:31:55,340 --> 00:31:56,820
Sometimes they're in on it.
627
00:31:57,139 --> 00:31:59,820
Here is one man who was trafficked
to a scam center in Cambodia,
628
00:31:59,899 --> 00:32:02,580
explaining what happened
when he did the obvious thing.
629
00:32:03,139 --> 00:32:06,980
On his second day in captivity,
Lu emailed the Chinese embassy.
630
00:32:07,740 --> 00:32:10,100
He was advised to call
the Sihanoukville police.
631
00:32:10,179 --> 00:32:11,659
But the police never came.
632
00:32:13,699 --> 00:32:15,899
The property management
came instead.
633
00:32:15,980 --> 00:32:17,500
They knew that I'd called the police.
634
00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:19,139
Five days.
635
00:32:19,820 --> 00:32:23,300
Lu says the managers then sold him
to another scamming company.
636
00:32:26,060 --> 00:32:28,139
He said
"Because I called the police,
637
00:32:28,219 --> 00:32:31,500
they had to take care of the police
with at least $4,000,
638
00:32:31,580 --> 00:32:33,260
and I had to pay for that, too."
639
00:32:34,060 --> 00:32:36,260
The authorities
weren't gonna help him.
640
00:32:36,340 --> 00:32:37,740
Which actually makes sense
when you learn
641
00:32:37,820 --> 00:32:40,699
that, according to UN estimates,
pig butchering in Cambodia
642
00:32:40,780 --> 00:32:44,340
brings in an amount equivalent
to half the country's GDP.
643
00:32:45,020 --> 00:32:47,219
Which is worrisome,
because as everyone knows,
644
00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:50,580
when something generates that much
money, you don't shut it down,
645
00:32:50,659 --> 00:32:53,820
you spin it off and pray
the magic works a second time.
646
00:32:54,179 --> 00:32:55,219
Come on!
647
00:32:56,300 --> 00:32:58,459
And conditions in these compounds
can be brutal.
648
00:32:58,540 --> 00:33:01,260
That man you saw earlier, Rakesh,
took photos of abuse like this one,
649
00:33:01,340 --> 00:33:03,179
of a coworker who'd been beaten.
650
00:33:03,260 --> 00:33:06,300
And Lu, who managed to get out,
now works to free others,
651
00:33:06,379 --> 00:33:10,219
and the stories of what he's seen
are, fair warning, hard to watch.
652
00:33:12,500 --> 00:33:16,980
I saw a man get beaten up very badly.
He had injuries all over his body.
653
00:33:18,379 --> 00:33:20,060
Lu contends it was this man,
654
00:33:20,419 --> 00:33:22,859
who was reportedly
found hanging just hours later.
655
00:33:23,619 --> 00:33:24,820
I'm certain it was him.
656
00:33:25,260 --> 00:33:27,780
His phone is full of messages
from Chinese citizens
657
00:33:28,100 --> 00:33:30,580
desperate to be freed
from scam companies.
658
00:33:30,899 --> 00:33:32,300
There's videos of abuse.
659
00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:36,899
Lu says he receives them directly
from victims inside the scam industry,
660
00:33:37,260 --> 00:33:40,020
or finds them posted
in social media group chats.
661
00:33:40,859 --> 00:33:43,260
And he's got handcuffs.
They're shocking.
662
00:33:44,260 --> 00:33:47,139
That is horrifying.
And when you know all of this,
663
00:33:47,219 --> 00:33:50,540
it kind of starts to change
who exactly you are mad at here.
664
00:33:50,619 --> 00:33:53,060
Because suddenly, the individuals
on the other end of the phone
665
00:33:53,139 --> 00:33:55,980
don't seem quite so fun
to send a message
666
00:33:56,060 --> 00:33:58,820
of "Weewoo weewoo, boner alert" to.
667
00:33:58,899 --> 00:34:02,500
Not that that isn't an excellent text.
Who doesn't love a boner alert?
668
00:34:03,419 --> 00:34:05,939
But there's a time and a place,
and this might not be it.
669
00:34:06,020 --> 00:34:09,900
Also, from now on, whenever you get
a sexy text from a new stranger,
670
00:34:09,980 --> 00:34:11,299
good luck not thinking
671
00:34:11,380 --> 00:34:14,580
"Is this a man who was just beaten
in a work camp in Myanmar?"
672
00:34:14,659 --> 00:34:17,339
And that, if anything,
is the John Oliver effect.
673
00:34:17,420 --> 00:34:18,659
You are welcome.
674
00:34:19,980 --> 00:34:24,500
I can't say that every scammer
is someone who was kidnapped,
675
00:34:24,580 --> 00:34:26,100
tortured, and forced to do it.
676
00:34:26,179 --> 00:34:29,739
But even if not everyone who's
doing this is trapped or coerced,
677
00:34:29,819 --> 00:34:33,100
the very fact that many are,
is still a huge problem.
678
00:34:33,179 --> 00:34:34,619
So, what can we do here?
679
00:34:34,699 --> 00:34:37,819
Well, when it comes to those
imprisoned in these compounds,
680
00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:40,940
that's gonna take collaboration
between international law enforcement.
681
00:34:41,020 --> 00:34:44,900
Unless you are the head of Interpol,
which, I'm guessing, you are not,
682
00:34:44,980 --> 00:34:47,299
there's not much you,
personally, can do.
683
00:34:47,380 --> 00:34:49,980
Now, in this country,
I'd argue that platforms like these
684
00:34:50,060 --> 00:34:51,699
should be doing way more
685
00:34:51,779 --> 00:34:54,380
to prevent the creation
of fake accounts to target people
686
00:34:54,460 --> 00:34:56,179
because it's happening
on their watch.
687
00:34:56,259 --> 00:35:00,060
But perhaps the most effective way
to stop this from happening,
688
00:35:00,139 --> 00:35:04,020
is to make it less lucrative
by having fewer people fall for it.
689
00:35:04,380 --> 00:35:07,299
And that is where awareness
of this scam is key.
690
00:35:07,380 --> 00:35:09,420
This is one of those rare cases
691
00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:12,980
where raising awareness
is, in itself, genuinely useful.
692
00:35:13,500 --> 00:35:17,020
'Cause hopefully you've seen tonight,
this could happen to someone you know.
693
00:35:17,100 --> 00:35:20,339
This hasn't just sucked in old people,
or those who aren't tech-savvy.
694
00:35:20,420 --> 00:35:22,739
It managed to reel
in a bank CEO.
695
00:35:23,179 --> 00:35:25,339
Everyone has an image
of the type of person
696
00:35:25,420 --> 00:35:28,100
who is susceptible to getting scammed
in their heads,
697
00:35:28,179 --> 00:35:31,100
but unless that image is a mirror,
ya might be wrong.
698
00:35:31,739 --> 00:35:34,380
So, as a general rule,
when a stranger on a dating app
699
00:35:34,460 --> 00:35:38,860
says "I love you" or "crypto" within
a month of talking to you, worry.
700
00:35:39,619 --> 00:35:42,020
Honestly, even if they
don't turn out to be scammers,
701
00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:45,380
those are pretty good red flags
to be looking for, personality-wise.
702
00:35:46,219 --> 00:35:49,779
And it's worth telling your friends
and family about pig butchering, too.
703
00:35:49,860 --> 00:35:51,779
It doesn't have to be a big lecture
or anything,
704
00:35:51,860 --> 00:35:54,219
you can just send them
a link to this show.
705
00:35:54,299 --> 00:35:56,139
And if they say
"I hate that guy",
706
00:35:56,219 --> 00:35:59,580
say, "Yeah, me too, he's the worst,
just skip past the jokes".
707
00:35:59,659 --> 00:36:02,540
And if they say, "I'll watch it,
but he looks like a LEGO accountant.
708
00:36:02,619 --> 00:36:06,219
Wait, no. He looks like ChatGPT's
answer to 'show me a virgin.
709
00:36:06,819 --> 00:36:10,380
' Wait, no. He looks like Harry Potter
if he just stayed under the stairs."
710
00:36:10,860 --> 00:36:14,179
Leave them on read. You don't have
to completely sell me out.
711
00:36:15,060 --> 00:36:18,259
Maybe drop a thumbs-up emoji,
but please, leave it at that.
712
00:36:19,139 --> 00:36:23,420
If you know someone who's been
scammed like this, try to be kind.
713
00:36:23,819 --> 00:36:26,139
It is human
to want companionship.
714
00:36:26,219 --> 00:36:28,980
And it's actually a nice quality
to be trusting of people.
715
00:36:29,060 --> 00:36:30,619
It sucks that the internet,
716
00:36:30,699 --> 00:36:32,779
which should be
a way to alleviate loneliness,
717
00:36:32,860 --> 00:36:35,020
can be turned
into a tool to exploit it.
718
00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:37,659
But maybe,
if we all look out for one another,
719
00:36:38,020 --> 00:36:41,259
we can ensure that the worst mistake
anyone ever makes on the internet
720
00:36:41,339 --> 00:36:45,100
is inadvertently buying an excellent
Christmas tree for gay mice.
721
00:36:45,179 --> 00:36:47,739
Because honestly,
it's really not that bad a purchase.
722
00:36:47,819 --> 00:36:50,779
Believe me,
I know what I'm talking about.
723
00:36:51,860 --> 00:36:53,259
And now, this!
724
00:36:54,339 --> 00:36:55,659
And Now:
725
00:36:55,739 --> 00:36:59,739
Local News Loses It Over Major
League Baseball's New Pants.
726
00:37:00,259 --> 00:37:01,980
Major League Baseball
introduced new uniforms this year,
727
00:37:02,060 --> 00:37:03,139
but there's a problem.
728
00:37:03,219 --> 00:37:07,739
The pants are made of thinner fabric,
making them almost see through, Chris.
729
00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:10,699
- Wait, what?
- Photos all over the internet
730
00:37:10,779 --> 00:37:12,179
You've got my attention.
731
00:37:12,259 --> 00:37:14,900
Luckily, the tucked-in shirts
keeping things covered for
732
00:37:14,980 --> 00:37:15,980
Look at him, his hands!
733
00:37:16,619 --> 00:37:20,139
- You can see the little tags.
- We saw it.
734
00:37:20,219 --> 00:37:21,460
What's it?
735
00:37:23,739 --> 00:37:28,060
- Steve! Okay.
- We saw the bottom of their
736
00:37:28,139 --> 00:37:30,060
Does he look happy wearing them?
No.
737
00:37:30,139 --> 00:37:31,860
He looks happy wearing them.
738
00:37:32,219 --> 00:37:33,580
Do you see the problem though?
739
00:37:33,659 --> 00:37:35,380
I don't think girls are saying
there's a problem there.
740
00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:37,659
The players, I think,
probably have an issue with it.
741
00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:42,139
Now if I've got patterns on my boxer
briefs everyone's gonna see that?
742
00:37:42,219 --> 00:37:44,179
I don't know. Suddenly,
I'm very interested in baseball.
743
00:37:44,259 --> 00:37:47,060
Bianca is on her elbows on the desk
trying to get closer.
744
00:37:47,139 --> 00:37:48,819
Can we zoom into these photos
a little bit more?
745
00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:53,100
- I can't tell 'cause I have bad eyes
- You can see the shirt tucked in.
746
00:37:53,860 --> 00:37:55,860
Maybe these uniforms
will get more women
747
00:37:55,940 --> 00:37:59,179
that aren't watching baseball
already to watch baseball.
748
00:38:00,060 --> 00:38:03,540
- You've got Derica's interest.
- That's what I said.
749
00:38:05,540 --> 00:38:07,380
- It's a good recruiting device.
- Yes, it is.
750
00:38:07,699 --> 00:38:10,699
- I see nothing wrong with the pants.
- I think they're fine.
751
00:38:10,779 --> 00:38:12,179
I was inspecting to see a problem.
752
00:38:12,860 --> 00:38:14,580
All right. If snakes make you
753
00:38:19,339 --> 00:38:21,460
Who put this order
of these stories in here?
754
00:38:24,980 --> 00:38:27,580
Thanks so much for watching.
We'll see you next week, good night!
68000
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