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It's been a busy week. 3 00:00:36,139 --> 00:00:38,940 From the U.S. vetoing a ceasefire in Gaza yet again, 4 00:00:39,020 --> 00:00:40,700 to the revelation that Joe Biden's dog 5 00:00:40,779 --> 00:00:44,420 bit secret service agents at least 24 different times. 6 00:00:45,060 --> 00:00:46,380 But we're gonna start in West Virginia, 7 00:00:46,459 --> 00:00:48,179 which has spent the past several weeks 8 00:00:48,259 --> 00:00:50,060 debating a bill to impose criminal penalties 9 00:00:50,139 --> 00:00:54,259 for exposing children to "obscene" literature in schools and libraries. 10 00:00:54,340 --> 00:00:58,139 The debate has featured spectacular testimony from concerned citizens, 11 00:00:58,219 --> 00:01:00,459 reading out material that they objected to. 12 00:01:01,139 --> 00:01:05,020 "Are you gonna eat her pussy?" "Yeah, I'm going to eat her pussy." 13 00:01:05,500 --> 00:01:08,500 "Hey, yeah. Do you even know how to eat pussy? 14 00:01:10,459 --> 00:01:12,860 Papa Gaines never sat you down, said, 15 00:01:12,940 --> 00:01:15,940 'Son, one day, you're going to have to eat the pussy?'" 16 00:01:16,339 --> 00:01:19,300 "No. But he did teach me how to eat a butthole." 17 00:01:23,539 --> 00:01:24,580 Look… 18 00:01:26,100 --> 00:01:28,500 I admit, I don't remember that scene from "The Giving Tree". 19 00:01:28,819 --> 00:01:32,259 But it's been a while. In retrospect, it does make sense for the tree 20 00:01:32,339 --> 00:01:34,979 to sit the boy down and explain how to rock the box. 21 00:01:35,059 --> 00:01:36,500 It's an important lesson. 22 00:01:36,580 --> 00:01:40,059 While that hearing was ridiculous, the law itself is serious. 23 00:01:40,140 --> 00:01:41,940 Violating it could carry a felony charge, 24 00:01:42,020 --> 00:01:46,419 with a penalty of $25,000 and a sentence of up to five years. 25 00:01:46,500 --> 00:01:47,940 Many have called it a "book ban", 26 00:01:48,020 --> 00:01:49,860 although the bill's backers push back on that, 27 00:01:49,940 --> 00:01:51,699 with one of the speakers who supported it saying, 28 00:01:51,780 --> 00:01:54,619 "We are not banning or burning, we are protecting." 29 00:01:54,699 --> 00:01:56,699 Although I'll tell you what you're definitely not protecting, 30 00:01:56,780 --> 00:01:59,860 that is my ears from hearing "eat the pussy" four times 31 00:01:59,940 --> 00:02:01,459 out of this woman's mouth. 32 00:02:01,780 --> 00:02:04,259 But while West Virginia may not be burning books, 33 00:02:04,339 --> 00:02:06,459 obscenity bills and similar moral panics 34 00:02:06,539 --> 00:02:09,579 are spreading around the country, in places like Missouri, 35 00:02:09,660 --> 00:02:11,900 where a candidate for office released this video. 36 00:02:12,419 --> 00:02:15,259 I will do this to the grooming books when I become secretary of state. 37 00:02:20,340 --> 00:02:22,620 These books come from a Missouri public library. 38 00:02:22,699 --> 00:02:24,539 When I'm in office, they will burn. 39 00:02:25,299 --> 00:02:27,380 So, there is a lot not to like there, 40 00:02:27,460 --> 00:02:31,500 including that her flamethrower is apparently fueled by liberal tears. 41 00:02:31,979 --> 00:02:35,900 Which, what? I'm not saying the GOP's messaging is in disarray, 42 00:02:35,979 --> 00:02:38,419 but are liberal tears the thing you love to drink 43 00:02:38,500 --> 00:02:40,859 because your enemies' sadness tastes so sweet? 44 00:02:40,940 --> 00:02:45,060 Or is it the deadly fuel for your very cool shark-themed flamethrower? 45 00:02:45,139 --> 00:02:47,460 'Cause you gotta pick a fucking lane there. 46 00:02:48,019 --> 00:02:49,539 For now, let's turn to Alabama, 47 00:02:49,620 --> 00:02:52,460 which has been reeling after a major decision from its highest court. 48 00:02:52,900 --> 00:02:54,060 This morning, 49 00:02:54,139 --> 00:02:56,739 a first-of-its-kind decision by the Alabama Supreme Court 50 00:02:56,819 --> 00:02:59,139 that could put at risk families' access 51 00:02:59,220 --> 00:03:01,979 to fertility treatments in the post-Roe. 52 00:03:02,380 --> 00:03:07,220 The court determining frozen embryos qualify as people under its state law, 53 00:03:07,299 --> 00:03:08,940 ruling, "unborn children 54 00:03:09,019 --> 00:03:12,620 are 'children' without exception based on developmental stage." 55 00:03:13,340 --> 00:03:16,380 Yeah. They ruled frozen embryos are the same as people, 56 00:03:16,460 --> 00:03:17,819 which is wrong for a bunch of reasons, 57 00:03:17,900 --> 00:03:20,539 mainly, if you freeze an embryo, it's fine. 58 00:03:20,620 --> 00:03:23,859 If you freeze a person, you have some explaining to do. 59 00:03:24,380 --> 00:03:27,100 Now, that ruling could have massive implications 60 00:03:27,180 --> 00:03:29,299 for anyone who needs IVF to conceive, 61 00:03:29,380 --> 00:03:30,940 and that is a lot of people. 62 00:03:31,019 --> 00:03:34,780 Around 2% of babies born in the U.S. are from IVF. 63 00:03:34,859 --> 00:03:36,940 Already, multiple fertility clinics 64 00:03:37,019 --> 00:03:39,019 have paused treatment in the wake of this decision, 65 00:03:39,100 --> 00:03:42,060 which, as anyone who's ever undergone IVF will tell you, 66 00:03:42,139 --> 00:03:44,019 isn't something you can just do. 67 00:03:44,100 --> 00:03:47,900 IVF cycles take weeks of careful monitoring and expensive treatments. 68 00:03:47,979 --> 00:03:50,660 You can't just hit pause and wait out a court case. 69 00:03:51,220 --> 00:03:53,579 This is a seismic decision, and the reason the court 70 00:03:53,660 --> 00:03:56,460 was hearing this case to begin with was pretty wild. 71 00:03:57,060 --> 00:04:00,220 The case in question involved a patient who managed to access 72 00:04:00,299 --> 00:04:04,060 the freezer storing frozen embryos at an Alabama fertility clinic. 73 00:04:04,579 --> 00:04:06,859 The patient picked up multiple embryos 74 00:04:06,940 --> 00:04:09,180 and mistakenly dropped and destroyed them. 75 00:04:10,340 --> 00:04:14,019 The court ruled that the clinic could be sued for wrongful death. 76 00:04:14,100 --> 00:04:16,220 And while that accident is genuinely horrible, 77 00:04:16,299 --> 00:04:19,379 someone wandering into a lab and dropping frozen embryos 78 00:04:19,460 --> 00:04:20,660 just isn't murder. 79 00:04:21,140 --> 00:04:24,859 If anything, it sounds like the script for a pretty tasteless Mr. Bean sequel, 80 00:04:24,939 --> 00:04:26,260 but that is it. 81 00:04:27,020 --> 00:04:29,859 The reason clinics are pausing treatment right now 82 00:04:29,939 --> 00:04:32,419 is that nobody quite knows what it could mean for an embryo 83 00:04:32,499 --> 00:04:35,340 to be legally equivalent to a person going forward. 84 00:04:35,859 --> 00:04:38,020 What happens if an embryo is stored improperly? 85 00:04:38,100 --> 00:04:39,700 What if they're, as inevitably happens, 86 00:04:39,780 --> 00:04:42,900 left over or destroyed in the implantation process? 87 00:04:43,220 --> 00:04:45,780 What about genetic testing, which can reduce the risk of miscarriage, 88 00:04:45,859 --> 00:04:48,499 but does carry a slight risk of damaging embryos? 89 00:04:48,580 --> 00:04:51,260 Would that now be considered a wrongful death? 90 00:04:51,340 --> 00:04:54,299 It is chaos, and experts say that courts in other states 91 00:04:54,379 --> 00:04:56,619 could try and issue similar rulings. 92 00:04:56,700 --> 00:04:59,100 But none of this should be that surprising. 93 00:04:59,179 --> 00:05:03,460 This ruling is a natural outgrowth of the concept of "fetal personhood", 94 00:05:03,539 --> 00:05:05,939 long pushed by hardline anti-abortion groups, 95 00:05:06,020 --> 00:05:08,580 which Republicans have spent decades courting. 96 00:05:08,660 --> 00:05:11,660 And some politicians suddenly seem alarmed to have to deal 97 00:05:11,739 --> 00:05:15,220 with the consequences of a movement that they have actively empowered. 98 00:05:15,299 --> 00:05:17,859 Nikki Haley spent the week trying to reconcile her position 99 00:05:17,939 --> 00:05:21,859 that "When you're talking about an embryo, you're talking about a life," 100 00:05:21,939 --> 00:05:24,580 with what that actually means in legal terms. 101 00:05:25,340 --> 00:05:27,539 Meanwhile, watch as Alabama Senator Tommy Tuberville 102 00:05:27,619 --> 00:05:30,820 seemed to realize the problems with his position in real time. 103 00:05:31,499 --> 00:05:33,939 Do you have a reaction to the Alabama Supreme Court 104 00:05:34,020 --> 00:05:36,939 ruling on the fact that embryos are children? 105 00:05:37,020 --> 00:05:38,379 Yeah, I was all for it. 106 00:05:38,460 --> 00:05:41,179 We need to have more kids, to have an opportunity to do that. 107 00:05:41,260 --> 00:05:43,299 And I thought that this was the right thing to do. 108 00:05:43,379 --> 00:05:45,299 But IVF is used to have more children, 109 00:05:45,379 --> 00:05:48,580 and now IVF services are paused at some of the clinics in Alabama. 110 00:05:48,660 --> 00:05:49,859 Aren't you concerned 111 00:05:49,939 --> 00:05:51,820 that this could impact people who are trying to have kids? 112 00:05:52,820 --> 00:05:55,140 That's for another conversation. 113 00:05:55,460 --> 00:05:57,619 Senator, what do you say to the women right now in Alabama 114 00:05:57,700 --> 00:06:00,260 who no longer have access to IVF and will not 115 00:06:00,340 --> 00:06:01,900 as a result of this ruling? 116 00:06:02,700 --> 00:06:03,979 What do you say to them? 117 00:06:06,260 --> 00:06:08,499 That's a hard one. It really is. It's really hard. 118 00:06:09,619 --> 00:06:11,580 You want people to have that opportunity. 119 00:06:11,939 --> 00:06:14,739 And that's what I was telling her, we need more kids. 120 00:06:15,700 --> 00:06:17,820 Guess what, Tommy? I got great news! 121 00:06:18,140 --> 00:06:19,260 Since your political philosophy 122 00:06:19,340 --> 00:06:22,020 seems to begin and end with "we need more kids", 123 00:06:22,100 --> 00:06:24,100 you'll be thrilled to know that thanks to a judge in Alabama, 124 00:06:24,179 --> 00:06:26,379 there's now whole freezers full of them! 125 00:06:26,900 --> 00:06:29,419 Go play with all those frosty kids, Senator! 126 00:06:29,499 --> 00:06:32,100 Or maybe that's not what you had in mind when you think of children, 127 00:06:32,179 --> 00:06:34,379 which is exactly the fucking point here. 128 00:06:34,979 --> 00:06:36,660 Republicans are in a tough spot right now, 129 00:06:36,739 --> 00:06:39,660 trying to hold onto hardline anti-abortion forces, 130 00:06:39,739 --> 00:06:42,539 while not alienating the majority of Americans. 131 00:06:42,619 --> 00:06:45,460 And maybe the best current example of this is Donald Trump. 132 00:06:45,539 --> 00:06:46,820 He issued a statement this week 133 00:06:46,900 --> 00:06:49,539 that he strongly supports the availability of IVF 134 00:06:49,619 --> 00:06:51,499 for couples who are trying to have a precious baby, 135 00:06:51,580 --> 00:06:54,780 something he referred to as "the ultimate joy in life", 136 00:06:54,859 --> 00:06:56,580 all caps, exclamation mark. 137 00:06:56,939 --> 00:07:00,220 And it's incredible how even objectively wholesome sentences 138 00:07:00,299 --> 00:07:02,140 take on an air of creepiness 139 00:07:02,220 --> 00:07:05,700 when passed through the chaotic Trump punctuation filter. 140 00:07:06,499 --> 00:07:09,499 Meanwhile, he's also been privately floating a federal ban on abortion 141 00:07:09,580 --> 00:07:12,340 at the 16-week mark, reportedly saying, 142 00:07:12,419 --> 00:07:16,260 "Know what I like about 16? It's even. It's four months". 143 00:07:16,340 --> 00:07:18,739 And I will say, starting any sentence with, 144 00:07:18,820 --> 00:07:20,460 "You know what I like about 16," 145 00:07:21,100 --> 00:07:25,179 should be off limits for anyone who has this many photos with Jeffrey Epstein. 146 00:07:26,020 --> 00:07:29,539 But while Trump might think 16 weeks is the reasonable option, 147 00:07:29,619 --> 00:07:32,220 which it isn't, anti-abortion forces 148 00:07:32,299 --> 00:07:36,100 are hoping to use a second Trump term to go much, much further. 149 00:07:36,739 --> 00:07:40,020 One tool they're apparently eager to use is the Comstock Act, 150 00:07:40,100 --> 00:07:42,499 an 1873 law that criminalizes the shipping 151 00:07:42,580 --> 00:07:46,460 of any materials used in an abortion, including abortion pills, 152 00:07:46,539 --> 00:07:48,059 with one of Trump's lawyers saying, 153 00:07:48,140 --> 00:07:52,220 "We don't need a federal ban when we have Comstock on the books". 154 00:07:52,539 --> 00:07:55,700 It was one of the key pretexts in last year's mifepristone ruling, 155 00:07:56,059 --> 00:07:59,059 and Lindsey Graham actually cited Comstock when defending it. 156 00:07:59,619 --> 00:08:03,619 The idea of mailing the drug, sending the drug through the mail, 157 00:08:03,939 --> 00:08:06,859 runs into a statute called the Comstock Act. 158 00:08:07,179 --> 00:08:09,379 It's a very old statute on the books. 159 00:08:09,460 --> 00:08:12,220 Do you believe that the Supreme Court should use that 160 00:08:12,299 --> 00:08:15,220 as a way to ban this abortion pill? 161 00:08:18,020 --> 00:08:19,419 I think it's a law on the books. 162 00:08:19,939 --> 00:08:21,939 I guess it's not that surprising 163 00:08:22,020 --> 00:08:25,299 that Graham's endorsement of a law boils down to "it's on the books", 164 00:08:25,379 --> 00:08:29,379 given that "it's old and it's there" sums up Lindsey Graham at this point. 165 00:08:30,220 --> 00:08:31,779 He seems determined to stay in the Senate 166 00:08:31,859 --> 00:08:35,379 - until he can complete his "Animorphs" - style transformation into Beaker. 167 00:08:35,779 --> 00:08:38,700 And he's getting close. He's only a couple of steps away. 168 00:08:39,499 --> 00:08:41,779 But he is right, the Comstock Act is technically there. 169 00:08:42,139 --> 00:08:44,940 Meaning a Trump administration, or the judges he appoints, 170 00:08:45,019 --> 00:08:49,420 could try using it to restrict abortion without going through Congress. 171 00:08:49,499 --> 00:08:50,820 Which is both alarming, 172 00:08:50,899 --> 00:08:54,180 and something many pro-life figures are anxious to keep quiet for now. 173 00:08:54,259 --> 00:08:56,739 That Trump lawyer that I mentioned even said of him 174 00:08:56,820 --> 00:09:00,259 "I hope he doesn't know about the existence of Comstock, 175 00:09:00,340 --> 00:09:03,019 because I just don't want him to shoot off his mouth. 176 00:09:03,100 --> 00:09:06,220 I think the pro-life groups should keep their mouths shut 177 00:09:06,300 --> 00:09:08,580 as much as possible until the election." 178 00:09:08,659 --> 00:09:11,139 But whenever they don't want to talk about something, 179 00:09:11,220 --> 00:09:13,460 it's probably worth you knowing about it. 180 00:09:13,540 --> 00:09:17,300 So, for the record, the Comstock Act is named after Anthony Comstock, 181 00:09:17,379 --> 00:09:20,659 a 19th-century anti-sex crusader and postal inspector 182 00:09:20,739 --> 00:09:23,379 who was, and I quote, a "chronic masturbator", 183 00:09:23,779 --> 00:09:25,899 who believed it was physically harmful, 184 00:09:25,979 --> 00:09:27,220 so launched a crusade 185 00:09:27,300 --> 00:09:30,619 to stamp out the transmission and transportation of all obscene material. 186 00:09:30,700 --> 00:09:35,420 Imagine jerking off so much you make it a matter of national security. 187 00:09:37,180 --> 00:09:39,779 The Comstock Act forbade sending by mail 188 00:09:39,859 --> 00:09:42,259 "every obscene, lewd, lascivious, indecent, 189 00:09:42,340 --> 00:09:45,700 filthy or vile article, matter, thing, device, or substance," 190 00:09:45,779 --> 00:09:48,659 as well as "every article or thing designed, adapted, 191 00:09:48,739 --> 00:09:50,940 or intended for producing abortion." 192 00:09:51,019 --> 00:09:56,019 That is the clause abortion opponents have been using on mifepristone, 193 00:09:56,100 --> 00:09:57,540 and they hope to expand it 194 00:09:57,619 --> 00:10:01,100 to cover the shipping of literally anything an abortion requires. 195 00:10:01,180 --> 00:10:05,300 So, the Comstock Act is a wild law, pushed for by a deeply weird, 196 00:10:05,379 --> 00:10:07,100 dangerously horny man, 197 00:10:07,540 --> 00:10:10,859 that may soon be determining all our reproductive freedoms. 198 00:10:10,940 --> 00:10:12,739 It's worth noting that Comstock 199 00:10:12,820 --> 00:10:16,259 was also a leader in the New York Society for the Suppression of Vice, 200 00:10:16,340 --> 00:10:19,580 whose seal, fun fact, depicted someone burning books. 201 00:10:20,100 --> 00:10:22,340 Which, to be fair, conservatives don't do anymore. 202 00:10:22,420 --> 00:10:24,820 As we all know, they use flamethrowers now. 203 00:10:25,940 --> 00:10:29,460 That is the thing that ties everything I've just talked about here together, 204 00:10:29,540 --> 00:10:32,180 there are politicians currently desperately trying 205 00:10:32,259 --> 00:10:35,499 to distance themselves from extreme policies that they have enabled. 206 00:10:35,580 --> 00:10:39,540 You can say "We're not trying to ban or burn books", 207 00:10:39,619 --> 00:10:41,220 but that's what's happening. 208 00:10:41,779 --> 00:10:43,820 You can say "We just want more kids", 209 00:10:43,899 --> 00:10:45,779 but you're making life incredibly hard for people, 210 00:10:45,859 --> 00:10:48,259 including those who desperately want them. 211 00:10:48,859 --> 00:10:51,580 Burning books and ending IVF are the natural endpoints 212 00:10:51,659 --> 00:10:53,739 of the extreme policies they've held hands with, 213 00:10:53,820 --> 00:10:57,340 and if they are not at least willing to own those consequences, 214 00:10:57,420 --> 00:10:59,700 then they can, in the words of what I believe to be 215 00:10:59,779 --> 00:11:01,979 this country's greatest public speaker… 216 00:11:02,060 --> 00:11:03,060 Eat a butthole. 217 00:11:03,340 --> 00:11:05,779 Well said. Well said, indeed. 218 00:11:06,499 --> 00:11:07,779 And now, this! 219 00:11:08,859 --> 00:11:09,899 And Now… 220 00:11:10,340 --> 00:11:15,100 More Explicit Readings From Concerned Citizens at Public Meetings. 221 00:11:15,820 --> 00:11:18,420 "The boy just talked soft to her about how good she looked 222 00:11:18,499 --> 00:11:19,659 at things like that 223 00:11:19,739 --> 00:11:22,580 and she grabbed his penis with her hands and starting moving it." 224 00:11:22,659 --> 00:11:24,739 "It felt so good, so fucking good, 225 00:11:25,139 --> 00:11:27,340 I don't know how people do anything but have sex 226 00:11:27,420 --> 00:11:30,460 if they are adults and don't have school or parents." 227 00:11:30,540 --> 00:11:32,779 "Ildy was on top of Valencia, making love to her. 228 00:11:32,859 --> 00:11:36,739 While Billy was making love to her, Billy made a noise like a rusty hinge. 229 00:11:36,820 --> 00:11:39,460 He had just emptied his seminal vesicles into Valencia." 230 00:11:39,540 --> 00:11:41,659 "Now before this, I had sucked my share of dicks 231 00:11:41,739 --> 00:11:45,300 and had gotten plenty of blowjobs, handjobs, every kind of job. 232 00:11:45,739 --> 00:11:48,820 But the only butt sex I'd had was with this junior 233 00:11:48,899 --> 00:11:51,859 who was in love with my cock and he just hopped aboard." 234 00:11:51,940 --> 00:11:54,540 "And I pull and I suck until he grows hard 235 00:11:54,619 --> 00:11:56,540 and he makes sounds that means he likes it, 236 00:11:56,859 --> 00:11:58,460 and I keep going and going. 237 00:11:58,540 --> 00:12:01,659 And when he says 'I'm going to cum,' I don't pull away. 238 00:12:01,739 --> 00:12:05,899 The jet of him is warm and salty and tastes like thickened sweat." 239 00:12:06,659 --> 00:12:09,979 "You can eat a girl out and blow some air inside of her 240 00:12:10,300 --> 00:12:12,259 or you can fuck her too hard." 241 00:12:12,340 --> 00:12:14,940 "My only challenge is Brian, who is my jerkoff friend, 242 00:12:15,019 --> 00:12:16,659 who likes to jerk me off." 243 00:12:16,739 --> 00:12:18,259 "Son, I don't have time for that. 244 00:12:18,340 --> 00:12:21,700 I've got like 20 pussies over here that I need to eat." "Is that right?" 245 00:12:21,779 --> 00:12:23,220 "I'm on pussy deadline." 246 00:12:23,300 --> 00:12:26,779 "I didn't have a hard-on anymore. That might some weird to say. 247 00:12:27,100 --> 00:12:30,499 It's also fucking complicated and tragic and life sucks." 248 00:12:30,580 --> 00:12:31,899 Just want to mention, 249 00:12:31,979 --> 00:12:35,300 I've never said the F-word ever in my life before until just now, so. 250 00:12:40,340 --> 00:12:41,340 Moving on. 251 00:12:41,659 --> 00:12:44,259 Our main story tonight concerns the internet. 252 00:12:44,340 --> 00:12:45,779 It can be a magical place, 253 00:12:45,859 --> 00:12:48,300 but also one where things aren't always what they seem, 254 00:12:48,379 --> 00:12:49,820 as this woman learned the hard way. 255 00:12:50,420 --> 00:12:52,659 Queen Shaydonna Haynesworth thought she bought this, 256 00:12:52,739 --> 00:12:56,700 the Instagram ad displaying a tree that fits in a living room, 257 00:12:56,779 --> 00:12:58,180 not the palm of her hand. 258 00:13:00,499 --> 00:13:03,580 This is the rainbow Christmas tree? 259 00:13:05,100 --> 00:13:06,619 Like, seriously? 260 00:13:07,100 --> 00:13:08,540 Like, who… 261 00:13:09,460 --> 00:13:13,060 Who is responsible for this? 262 00:13:14,060 --> 00:13:15,700 It must've been pretty disappointing 263 00:13:15,779 --> 00:13:18,859 to order a full-size tree and get whatever that is. 264 00:13:19,859 --> 00:13:22,300 She must've felt like HBO did when they ordered a comedy show 265 00:13:22,379 --> 00:13:23,859 and got this instead. 266 00:13:24,659 --> 00:13:27,619 Unfortunately, not every mistake is that benign. 267 00:13:27,700 --> 00:13:29,940 It is not news that there are scammers on the internet, 268 00:13:30,019 --> 00:13:31,899 but you may have noticed that one scam in particular 269 00:13:31,979 --> 00:13:33,540 is currently everywhere. 270 00:13:33,619 --> 00:13:35,300 A common way that it starts is with a weird text 271 00:13:35,379 --> 00:13:37,139 from a number you don't recognize, 272 00:13:37,220 --> 00:13:40,340 like "Cheryl, can we move lunch to 5:00?" when you're not Cheryl. 273 00:13:40,420 --> 00:13:42,180 Or "Dave, what time is our flight?" 274 00:13:42,259 --> 00:13:44,019 when you're not Dave and you don't have a flight booked. 275 00:13:44,379 --> 00:13:46,180 Even as we worked on this piece, 276 00:13:46,259 --> 00:13:49,460 multiple members of our staff and their friends were getting these messages, 277 00:13:49,540 --> 00:13:52,540 from "Hello, is this the manager Jesse from the flower shop?" 278 00:13:52,619 --> 00:13:53,659 to this one, reading 279 00:13:53,739 --> 00:13:57,220 "Is this Dr. John? I'm Emily, is my horse recovering well?" 280 00:13:58,019 --> 00:14:01,460 I'm so glad that wasn't sent to me, 'cause it would have worked. 281 00:14:02,420 --> 00:14:05,499 You're calling me Dr. John? I'm instantly on board. 282 00:14:05,580 --> 00:14:08,379 And you're assuming I'm around a horse for medical reasons? 283 00:14:08,460 --> 00:14:10,180 That's exactly what I've been saying! 284 00:14:11,180 --> 00:14:13,779 I'm allowed to touch it like that. I'm a doctor! 285 00:14:14,580 --> 00:14:18,019 And I know most people ignore messages like those. 286 00:14:18,100 --> 00:14:21,379 But some write back, get sucked into a conversation, 287 00:14:21,460 --> 00:14:23,379 and eventually, through a process that we'll get into, 288 00:14:23,460 --> 00:14:25,340 can end up losing a lot of money. 289 00:14:25,940 --> 00:14:29,340 It's a scam with a striking name that newscasters can't seem to get over. 290 00:14:29,979 --> 00:14:32,139 It's called a pig butchering scam. 291 00:14:32,220 --> 00:14:34,580 And it might sound like a gruesome name, 292 00:14:34,659 --> 00:14:38,580 but that's because the amount of money victims are losing is painful. 293 00:14:38,899 --> 00:14:42,100 The scammers have a terrible term for what Wendy went through. 294 00:14:42,180 --> 00:14:43,859 They call it pig butchering. 295 00:14:44,220 --> 00:14:48,220 The New Mexico Securities Division calls them "pig butchering scams". 296 00:14:48,300 --> 00:14:52,100 I know, but don't worry, there are no pigs, or any other animals involved. 297 00:14:52,739 --> 00:14:56,259 Yes, don't worry, there are no pigs harmed in this pig butchering scam. 298 00:14:56,340 --> 00:14:58,659 Although, if the words do make you squeamish, it's worth noting 299 00:14:58,739 --> 00:15:01,899 that there is a process through which pigs are harmed every day. 300 00:15:01,979 --> 00:15:04,460 It's actually how we get bacon, pork, and other products. 301 00:15:04,540 --> 00:15:07,820 It's called pig butchering, and it's exactly what it sounds like. 302 00:15:08,899 --> 00:15:10,659 But the name makes a little more sense 303 00:15:10,739 --> 00:15:13,379 once you understand how the scam actually works. 304 00:15:14,220 --> 00:15:17,060 In the world of cyber and counterterrorism threats, 305 00:15:17,139 --> 00:15:19,619 Special Agent Hassani has seen it all. 306 00:15:20,180 --> 00:15:24,420 But in 2021, he began seeing a new scam: pig butchering. 307 00:15:25,060 --> 00:15:27,739 But it just refers to raising little piglets, 308 00:15:28,060 --> 00:15:30,940 fattening them up, and butchering them. 309 00:15:31,340 --> 00:15:34,820 And they're fattening up their victim with illusions of grandeur, 310 00:15:34,899 --> 00:15:39,060 of wealth, of love, before bleeding them dry. 311 00:15:39,940 --> 00:15:42,739 That is rough. Because imagine being a victim of this scam, 312 00:15:42,820 --> 00:15:44,779 turning on the news, and suddenly learning 313 00:15:44,859 --> 00:15:48,100 that the shorthand for people in your situation is "the pigs". 314 00:15:49,100 --> 00:15:51,300 Although, I will say, it could have been worse. Pigs are awesome! 315 00:15:51,379 --> 00:15:53,499 They're one of the most intelligent animals on the planet. 316 00:15:53,580 --> 00:15:57,019 They're smarter than dogs, most three-year-olds, and Tom Sandoval. 317 00:15:57,100 --> 00:16:00,139 To use a phrase that the police never seem to appreciate, 318 00:16:00,220 --> 00:16:02,659 it's actually an honor to be compared to a pig! 319 00:16:03,220 --> 00:16:04,220 And if you are thinking, 320 00:16:04,300 --> 00:16:07,540 "This seems like the kind of scam that's been around for decades." 321 00:16:07,619 --> 00:16:11,940 That is partially true. But the way this one works is fairly new. 322 00:16:12,019 --> 00:16:15,540 And in the short time that it's been around, it's been massively successful. 323 00:16:15,619 --> 00:16:19,540 Just this month, it was at the center of a huge local news story in Kansas, 324 00:16:19,619 --> 00:16:21,700 where it brought down a financial institution. 325 00:16:22,700 --> 00:16:25,220 I was surprised. I was shocked. I was disappointed. 326 00:16:25,300 --> 00:16:28,019 Kansas State Bank commissioner David Herndon 327 00:16:28,100 --> 00:16:30,859 is talking about the massive cryptocurrency scam 328 00:16:30,940 --> 00:16:33,420 at the Heartland Tri-State Bank in Elkhart. 329 00:16:33,820 --> 00:16:35,739 In a cryptocurrency scheme 330 00:16:36,379 --> 00:16:41,060 that the FBI has now referred to as pig butchering. 331 00:16:41,139 --> 00:16:44,859 In this case, Herndon says, the victim was Shan Hanes, 332 00:16:44,940 --> 00:16:46,379 the bank's own CEO. 333 00:16:47,220 --> 00:16:51,859 And he's now facing charges of embezzling nearly $50 million, 334 00:16:51,940 --> 00:16:55,420 a loss that caused the bank to fail last August. 335 00:16:56,139 --> 00:17:00,060 That's true. According to prosecutors, a bank CEO got pig-butchered, 336 00:17:00,139 --> 00:17:03,179 sent his scammer the bank's holdings, and the bank went under. 337 00:17:03,260 --> 00:17:07,500 Which is alarming for several reasons, among them, is that how banks work? 338 00:17:08,260 --> 00:17:11,459 'Cause it really feels like there should be at least one step between 339 00:17:11,540 --> 00:17:14,580 "CEO gets tricked" and "Whoops! The bank's empty." 340 00:17:15,939 --> 00:17:18,699 It's estimated that, as of 2022, this scam was taking people 341 00:17:18,780 --> 00:17:23,020 for more than $3 billion a year in the U.S. alone. 342 00:17:23,659 --> 00:17:25,699 And that's almost certainly a massive undercount, 343 00:17:25,780 --> 00:17:29,379 as it only includes people who reported their losses to the FBI. 344 00:17:30,139 --> 00:17:33,300 So, given all of that, tonight, let's talk about pig butchering. 345 00:17:33,379 --> 00:17:35,300 Why it's easier to fall for than you might think, 346 00:17:35,379 --> 00:17:37,939 who's behind it, and what we can do to protect ourselves 347 00:17:38,020 --> 00:17:40,899 and our liked ones from getting scammed in the future. 348 00:17:41,459 --> 00:17:44,859 And let's start with where this began. And to do that, unfortunately, 349 00:17:44,939 --> 00:17:47,899 we do need to go back to the place that no one wants to go: 350 00:17:47,980 --> 00:17:49,619 the beginning of Covid. 351 00:17:49,699 --> 00:17:52,859 You remember Covid. It's the Stephen Miller of diseases, 352 00:17:52,939 --> 00:17:55,500 in that we were all very worried about it a few years ago 353 00:17:55,580 --> 00:17:58,540 and have since moved on even though it's still extremely dangerous. 354 00:17:59,340 --> 00:18:01,619 But that is when pig butchering took off. 355 00:18:01,699 --> 00:18:05,100 Basically, at the start of Covid, many of us were isolated and lonely, 356 00:18:05,179 --> 00:18:07,580 desperately looking for human contact online, 357 00:18:07,659 --> 00:18:09,219 which made us ripe targets. 358 00:18:09,540 --> 00:18:12,740 At the same time, organized crime groups in China, 359 00:18:12,820 --> 00:18:15,939 running casinos in southeast Asia, were in crisis, 360 00:18:16,020 --> 00:18:19,179 as, thanks to the pandemic, gamblers weren't showing up. 361 00:18:19,260 --> 00:18:23,859 So, "they turned those casinos into bases for online scam operations". 362 00:18:23,939 --> 00:18:26,340 And from there, their workers identified people 363 00:18:26,419 --> 00:18:27,980 and preyed on their vulnerabilities. 364 00:18:28,060 --> 00:18:30,179 And let me walk you through the basic steps here. 365 00:18:30,260 --> 00:18:33,580 The first is to make contact and lure your target in. 366 00:18:33,659 --> 00:18:35,980 Listen to this woman explain how her scammer, 367 00:18:36,060 --> 00:18:37,619 who called himself "Jimmy", 368 00:18:37,699 --> 00:18:39,699 contacted her at a moment when she was dealing 369 00:18:39,780 --> 00:18:42,340 with cancer, the pandemic, and the end of her marriage. 370 00:18:43,060 --> 00:18:47,300 First message, it came as a very innocent message. 371 00:18:53,260 --> 00:18:54,820 I said, "Wrong number". 372 00:18:58,939 --> 00:18:59,939 He came back. 373 00:19:03,939 --> 00:19:07,219 And I said yes. He had moved here just before Covid, 374 00:19:07,540 --> 00:19:10,419 and then Covid hit, and so he's not able to go home. 375 00:19:14,659 --> 00:19:15,939 He was a… 376 00:19:18,659 --> 00:19:21,939 A lonely man in need of… 377 00:19:22,939 --> 00:19:24,100 comfort. 378 00:19:24,179 --> 00:19:26,540 Jimmy would message me every day. 379 00:19:26,619 --> 00:19:29,580 I do remember receiving these emojis with hearts. 380 00:19:35,300 --> 00:19:38,020 It's quite flattering for a middle-aged woman 381 00:19:39,060 --> 00:19:41,820 to meet a young man who finds you attractive. 382 00:19:42,580 --> 00:19:44,340 Yeah, of course, that's flattering. 383 00:19:44,419 --> 00:19:45,780 Because scammers are telling their targets 384 00:19:45,859 --> 00:19:48,179 what they want to hear most in that moment. 385 00:19:48,260 --> 00:19:51,300 We might not all fall for a GIF of a heart-pumping emoji, 386 00:19:52,300 --> 00:19:55,179 but if someone sent me "nerd with glasses" plus "football" 387 00:19:55,260 --> 00:19:59,740 plus "learning" plus "sad statistics" equals "fire emoji," me personally? 388 00:20:00,100 --> 00:20:01,500 Why, I would nut! 389 00:20:02,419 --> 00:20:07,500 One way of making contact is through those "wrong number" texts. 390 00:20:07,820 --> 00:20:10,100 But experts that we've talked to estimate that they only make up 391 00:20:10,179 --> 00:20:13,500 about a quarter of the initial contacts for this scam. 392 00:20:13,580 --> 00:20:15,500 The rest can come through sites like LinkedIn, 393 00:20:15,580 --> 00:20:18,179 dating apps, Instagram, or Facebook, 394 00:20:18,260 --> 00:20:22,020 places specifically designed for you to meet people that you don't know, 395 00:20:22,419 --> 00:20:25,260 either for love, a hook up, or, in the case of LinkedIn, 396 00:20:25,340 --> 00:20:28,580 to find out what kind of person is still on fucking LinkedIn. 397 00:20:29,699 --> 00:20:33,179 And scammers often research their target using social media, 398 00:20:33,260 --> 00:20:35,179 where there is a lot of information about people, 399 00:20:35,260 --> 00:20:38,060 so they can pretend to have something in common. 400 00:20:38,139 --> 00:20:40,300 Take this woman, who met someone on a dating app, 401 00:20:40,379 --> 00:20:43,020 only to discover that they shared an unexpected connection. 402 00:20:43,780 --> 00:20:48,179 He started asking questions about my family and my past experiences. 403 00:20:48,500 --> 00:20:51,219 It was a connection that felt even stronger, she says, 404 00:20:51,300 --> 00:20:54,100 when he told her he came from the same town in China 405 00:20:54,179 --> 00:20:56,020 from where Hutchinson was adopted. 406 00:20:56,379 --> 00:20:57,740 We bonded over that. 407 00:20:58,219 --> 00:21:00,100 I bet they did! And I've got to say, 408 00:21:00,179 --> 00:21:01,899 it says something about men on dating apps 409 00:21:01,980 --> 00:21:04,699 that they connected so well simply because he did things 410 00:21:04,780 --> 00:21:08,260 like ask her questions about herself and listen to her responses. 411 00:21:08,659 --> 00:21:10,780 I don't want to say the bar for men is low, 412 00:21:10,859 --> 00:21:13,939 but that story started with him asking her questions about her life 413 00:21:14,020 --> 00:21:16,300 and ends with her giving him all of her money. 414 00:21:17,219 --> 00:21:19,379 But regardless of how they start, sooner or later, 415 00:21:19,459 --> 00:21:22,859 we move on to step two: turning the conversation toward money. 416 00:21:22,939 --> 00:21:25,340 But even then, there's a smart twist. 417 00:21:25,419 --> 00:21:29,340 Because you won't be suddenly asked to wire money to a Nigerian prince 418 00:21:29,699 --> 00:21:32,500 with an obviously fake email like "real-pr1nce", 419 00:21:32,580 --> 00:21:35,740 spelled with a one instead of an I, "at-scum-dot-farts". 420 00:21:36,899 --> 00:21:39,899 With pig butchering, there's no direct ask for money at all. 421 00:21:40,219 --> 00:21:42,939 Instead, an opportunity gets presented to you. 422 00:21:43,260 --> 00:21:46,740 Watch as this man explains the moment when a guy that he met on a dating site 423 00:21:46,820 --> 00:21:48,179 started to reel him in. 424 00:21:48,780 --> 00:21:52,500 He spent at least a month daily talking to me 425 00:21:52,580 --> 00:21:54,540 and cultivating my friendship. 426 00:21:54,619 --> 00:21:58,300 Initially, the only talk about money was how much his new online friend 427 00:21:58,379 --> 00:21:59,540 had made in crypto. 428 00:21:59,939 --> 00:22:03,540 After all, Scott thought he knew how to protect himself from scams. 429 00:22:04,100 --> 00:22:06,179 "You can invest with me and I'll make you all this money," 430 00:22:06,260 --> 00:22:08,540 and I was like, "I'm not giving you money, that's not happening." 431 00:22:10,500 --> 00:22:13,020 So, that's when he started "No, you don't give it to me. 432 00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:15,820 You establish your own account and I'll guide you." 433 00:22:16,459 --> 00:22:20,139 Right. That's the clever hook here. You're not sending the scammer money, 434 00:22:20,219 --> 00:22:23,139 they're helping you set up and control your own account. 435 00:22:23,500 --> 00:22:26,659 Everything seems more legitimate when there's an app involved. 436 00:22:26,740 --> 00:22:29,139 You don't think so? When is the last time you took an Uber? 437 00:22:29,500 --> 00:22:32,219 Get in a nondescript car with someone I've never met? 438 00:22:32,300 --> 00:22:34,459 I would never do that! But wait, what's this? 439 00:22:34,540 --> 00:22:38,260 I can do it from my phone? In that case, here's my address, 440 00:22:38,340 --> 00:22:40,459 now you know where I live and that I won't be home for the evening. 441 00:22:40,540 --> 00:22:42,980 My name's John, I don't know your last name but that doesn't matter 442 00:22:43,060 --> 00:22:45,179 'cause I'm also not committing your face to memory. 443 00:22:45,260 --> 00:22:47,820 Everything's safe, there's an app involved! 444 00:22:48,500 --> 00:22:50,699 And the fact the investment is often in crypto 445 00:22:51,020 --> 00:22:53,020 can be persuasive for multiple reasons. 446 00:22:53,100 --> 00:22:55,659 First, who really knows how crypto works? 447 00:22:55,740 --> 00:22:58,459 I know your friend's weird husband claims that he does, 448 00:22:58,540 --> 00:23:01,619 but he sucks to talk to, so sadly, it must remain a mystery. 449 00:23:02,619 --> 00:23:06,260 But people have made money on crypto, so it's not unreasonable 450 00:23:06,580 --> 00:23:10,260 to think you might meet one of them and they could give you some tips. 451 00:23:10,340 --> 00:23:12,500 On top of which, you may not be super familiar 452 00:23:12,580 --> 00:23:15,980 with how a trading platform operates or even what one looks like. 453 00:23:16,300 --> 00:23:19,379 And scammers have created incredibly plausible-looking platforms. 454 00:23:19,699 --> 00:23:21,260 We got this footage of one, 455 00:23:21,340 --> 00:23:25,179 which seems to have all the detail and functionality of a real one, 456 00:23:25,260 --> 00:23:27,820 and I'll be honest, I could be fooled by that. 457 00:23:28,459 --> 00:23:30,459 Also, some scammers use legitimate apps 458 00:23:30,780 --> 00:23:33,379 that allow anyone to build a trading exchange. 459 00:23:33,459 --> 00:23:36,020 The problem is, there are tools that scammers can use 460 00:23:36,100 --> 00:23:39,939 to simulate fake results on those apps, while taking your money. 461 00:23:40,020 --> 00:23:44,100 Watch this journalist explain how this gave one victim false confidence. 462 00:23:44,419 --> 00:23:46,379 In MetaTrader, it looks just like 463 00:23:46,459 --> 00:23:50,179 any kind of normal trading interface that one would use. 464 00:23:50,260 --> 00:23:53,500 It's available in the Google Play Store. It's available on the Apple App Store. 465 00:23:53,580 --> 00:23:56,260 It's an app that has a lot of good ratings, 466 00:23:56,340 --> 00:23:58,459 and that was one of the things that made Cy think 467 00:23:58,540 --> 00:24:00,780 that this whole operation was legitimate. 468 00:24:01,100 --> 00:24:04,379 He believed that his investment was making money. 469 00:24:04,859 --> 00:24:07,020 If you're trading on a legitimate trading interface, 470 00:24:07,100 --> 00:24:10,060 right, you see the profits and losses over time. 471 00:24:10,379 --> 00:24:11,980 And this is exactly what he saw. 472 00:24:12,699 --> 00:24:15,060 If your friend told you to download an app, 473 00:24:15,139 --> 00:24:17,699 and you saw it in the App Store with good reviews, 474 00:24:17,780 --> 00:24:19,980 you might assume everything on it was legitimate, 475 00:24:20,060 --> 00:24:22,060 even before you saw MetaTrader's logo, 476 00:24:22,139 --> 00:24:25,619 which looks like three men in suits jerking each other off under a table, 477 00:24:26,060 --> 00:24:29,580 a metaphor for cryptocurrency if I have ever seen one. 478 00:24:30,619 --> 00:24:33,300 Some scammers even set up additional features 479 00:24:33,379 --> 00:24:36,659 like two-factor authentication or customer service lines. 480 00:24:36,740 --> 00:24:39,219 This woman tried her best to do due diligence 481 00:24:39,300 --> 00:24:40,820 on the site that she was sent, 482 00:24:40,899 --> 00:24:42,899 and came away convinced that it was real. 483 00:24:43,540 --> 00:24:46,699 There was a legal secretary involved in another state, 484 00:24:46,780 --> 00:24:50,100 vouching association with a law firm where it was sending money to. 485 00:24:50,419 --> 00:24:55,699 She's real. I could verify her, so it was very complex and well-rehearsed. 486 00:24:56,139 --> 00:25:00,780 Right. She spoke with a legal secretary and a law firm before sending money. 487 00:25:00,859 --> 00:25:03,699 And that is more vetting than I've done for my kids' daycare. 488 00:25:04,060 --> 00:25:07,379 I love them, they're precious to me, but they're also loud, sticky, 489 00:25:07,459 --> 00:25:09,659 and one of them is just getting stronger and stronger every day, 490 00:25:09,980 --> 00:25:13,980 so if you have a building with walls and a phone number that I can call, 491 00:25:14,060 --> 00:25:16,459 I trust you, take them for the afternoon. 492 00:25:17,060 --> 00:25:18,500 And at this point in the process, 493 00:25:18,580 --> 00:25:20,939 things might look pretty good for the people getting scammed. 494 00:25:21,020 --> 00:25:23,820 You've sent a bit of money to a legitimatelooking site, 495 00:25:23,899 --> 00:25:25,219 through an account that you control. 496 00:25:25,300 --> 00:25:28,260 And your new friend's trading tips seem to be working, 497 00:25:28,340 --> 00:25:30,300 so maybe you send a little bit more. 498 00:25:30,379 --> 00:25:32,780 And pretty soon, you might have a fair amount of money 499 00:25:32,859 --> 00:25:34,699 tied up on this trading platform. 500 00:25:34,780 --> 00:25:37,219 But when you eventually go to withdraw it, 501 00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:39,619 that is where we hit the final step of this process. 502 00:25:40,060 --> 00:25:41,379 Remember that woman you saw earlier, 503 00:25:41,459 --> 00:25:44,820 whose online friend claimed that he was from the town where she was born? 504 00:25:44,899 --> 00:25:47,580 Well, she'd convinced her dad to invest as well, 505 00:25:47,659 --> 00:25:50,980 they'd seemingly made a bunch of money, and then this happened. 506 00:25:51,740 --> 00:25:56,219 By December, their accounts showed a combined balance of $1.2 million, 507 00:25:56,540 --> 00:25:59,540 and Hutchinson decided it was time to cash out. 508 00:26:00,060 --> 00:26:03,379 That's when the site told her, before she could withdraw her money, 509 00:26:03,459 --> 00:26:07,980 she'd have to pay a hefty tax bill of roughly $380,000. 510 00:26:08,619 --> 00:26:10,859 That's when I was like "Something's not right". 511 00:26:11,179 --> 00:26:14,580 It wasn't. The cryptocurrency investments weren't real. 512 00:26:15,020 --> 00:26:18,699 All her and her father's funds had gone into the scammer's pockets. 513 00:26:19,139 --> 00:26:22,459 In all, $390,000 stolen. 514 00:26:23,179 --> 00:26:27,020 I messed up my life. I messed up my dad's life. 515 00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:29,780 She told me that it was all a scam. 516 00:26:29,859 --> 00:26:31,699 Hutchinson's father, Melvin. 517 00:26:31,780 --> 00:26:36,219 And all I could do was just hug her and tell her, it's okay. 518 00:26:36,899 --> 00:26:39,939 It's okay. And it was hard. 519 00:26:40,939 --> 00:26:43,020 It was hard, 'cause we lost everything. 520 00:26:43,859 --> 00:26:45,740 Yeah, their money had already gone, 521 00:26:45,820 --> 00:26:49,300 and that tax bill was just an attempt to squeeze them one last time. 522 00:26:49,859 --> 00:26:51,740 And theirs isn't the only brutal story here. 523 00:26:51,820 --> 00:26:56,619 This woman lost $350,000. This guy lost 300,000. 524 00:26:56,699 --> 00:26:58,619 And that woman who fell for "Jimmy" 525 00:26:58,699 --> 00:27:00,699 sent him two and a half million dollars, 526 00:27:00,780 --> 00:27:02,740 as she was dealing with terminal cancer. 527 00:27:03,340 --> 00:27:05,500 It is traumatic and it's humiliating 528 00:27:05,580 --> 00:27:08,540 and it took courage for those people to come forward. 529 00:27:08,619 --> 00:27:10,179 That is partly why experts think 530 00:27:10,260 --> 00:27:13,060 the $3 billion figure that we have is way too low, 531 00:27:13,139 --> 00:27:15,139 because most people who've been scammed like this 532 00:27:15,219 --> 00:27:18,060 simply don't report their losses out of embarrassment. 533 00:27:18,139 --> 00:27:20,060 And at this point, you're probably furious 534 00:27:20,139 --> 00:27:22,459 with the people on the other end of all of these messages, 535 00:27:22,540 --> 00:27:25,619 and want to see them taken down, or, at the very least, fucked with. 536 00:27:26,020 --> 00:27:27,780 And that does happen a lot. 537 00:27:28,260 --> 00:27:30,980 People post screengrabs messing with scammers all the time, 538 00:27:31,060 --> 00:27:33,619 like in this exchange, where someone replies to "wrong number" 539 00:27:33,699 --> 00:27:36,020 with "My name is Inigo Montoya", 540 00:27:36,459 --> 00:27:40,580 and, "You don't by any chance have six fingers on your right hand, do you?" 541 00:27:41,260 --> 00:27:43,939 Or this one, where a scammer writes "I'm Sarah, nice to meet you", 542 00:27:44,020 --> 00:27:47,379 with a picture, and gets the reply "Weewoo weewoo. Boner alert". 543 00:27:47,699 --> 00:27:49,859 And look, I'll be honest, 544 00:27:49,939 --> 00:27:52,659 that doesn't seem like the right sound to me. 545 00:27:52,740 --> 00:27:55,939 That's not what I would've gone with "a-woo-ga, a-woo-ga, boner alert". 546 00:27:56,540 --> 00:27:58,659 But reasonable people can disagree, all bodies are different, 547 00:27:58,740 --> 00:28:01,699 there's no one right sound for a boner alert. 548 00:28:02,899 --> 00:28:05,939 But here is the thing, as cathartic as that might be, 549 00:28:06,020 --> 00:28:08,139 the person on the other end of that phone 550 00:28:09,020 --> 00:28:11,419 might not be the one you should be mad at. 551 00:28:11,500 --> 00:28:14,540 'Cause remember when I said that this was being done in former casinos 552 00:28:14,619 --> 00:28:16,379 by organized crime syndicates? 553 00:28:16,459 --> 00:28:18,580 It turns out, they're not great bosses. 554 00:28:19,100 --> 00:28:21,540 This compound is where an Indian man named Rakesh 555 00:28:21,899 --> 00:28:25,419 says he was forced to work for more than 11 months without pay 556 00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:27,260 for a Chinese criminal gang. 557 00:28:27,340 --> 00:28:29,740 Rakesh, who doesn't want to be identified, 558 00:28:29,820 --> 00:28:33,379 says he first flew to Thailand for what he thought was an IT job. 559 00:28:34,060 --> 00:28:37,859 Instead, he says he was tricked into crossing the border to Myanmar 560 00:28:38,260 --> 00:28:41,939 where a Chinese gangster told him to work, or else. 561 00:28:42,659 --> 00:28:45,699 - He threatened to kill you. - Yeah. He warned me like that. 562 00:28:46,020 --> 00:28:47,980 And the job? Spend 16 hours a day 563 00:28:48,300 --> 00:28:52,100 on social media targeting Americans with a fake profile. 564 00:28:52,659 --> 00:28:53,939 That is awful. 565 00:28:54,619 --> 00:28:59,020 No one should be forced to spend 16 hours a day on social media. 566 00:28:59,100 --> 00:29:00,780 You should do it either because you love it, 567 00:29:00,859 --> 00:29:04,540 or because you are 15 years old and the algorithm has addicted you to it. 568 00:29:04,619 --> 00:29:08,060 Completely normal reasons. A lot of these organizations 569 00:29:08,500 --> 00:29:10,659 are using people who've been human trafficked, 570 00:29:10,740 --> 00:29:14,100 after being lured to the compounds under false pretenses. 571 00:29:14,179 --> 00:29:16,780 They are actually victims of a scam themselves. 572 00:29:16,859 --> 00:29:20,500 Basically, they might see job ads for skilled positions as translators, 573 00:29:20,580 --> 00:29:22,740 or IT specialists, in another country. 574 00:29:22,820 --> 00:29:25,260 They then go through a whole application process, 575 00:29:25,340 --> 00:29:29,459 with some going through "up to four seemingly legitimate online interviews" 576 00:29:29,540 --> 00:29:31,260 and fly to their new job. 577 00:29:31,340 --> 00:29:32,580 At which point, they suddenly learn 578 00:29:32,659 --> 00:29:35,980 their new bosses have their documents and they now can't leave. 579 00:29:36,500 --> 00:29:40,980 Back in 2022, ProPublica estimated that tens of thousands of people 580 00:29:41,060 --> 00:29:42,820 had been tricked in this way. 581 00:29:42,899 --> 00:29:46,899 A more recent UN report estimated that hundreds of thousands of people 582 00:29:46,980 --> 00:29:49,300 have been forcibly engaged in this scheme. 583 00:29:49,379 --> 00:29:52,859 They also say "most victims are confined to the scam compound, 584 00:29:52,939 --> 00:29:54,580 and their screens are always monitored 585 00:29:54,659 --> 00:29:56,780 by the members of the organized crime group." 586 00:29:56,859 --> 00:29:59,780 And once they are in, they are provided fake profiles 587 00:29:59,859 --> 00:30:01,619 to try and hook people in with. 588 00:30:01,699 --> 00:30:04,179 Here is who Rakesh found himself being all day. 589 00:30:04,740 --> 00:30:06,260 I got a Russian girl. 590 00:30:06,619 --> 00:30:09,859 With using a Russian girl fake profile, I need to scam the people. 591 00:30:10,179 --> 00:30:14,060 Posing as a Salt Lake City-based investor named Klara Semonov, 592 00:30:14,379 --> 00:30:17,459 Rakesh flirted online with potential targets. 593 00:30:17,780 --> 00:30:21,179 70 to 80% fall for fake love. 594 00:30:21,820 --> 00:30:24,899 Yeah, Rakesh was Klara Semonov from Salt Lake City. 595 00:30:24,980 --> 00:30:26,139 So, before we go any further, 596 00:30:26,219 --> 00:30:30,899 anyone who thinks that they are dating Klara, I'm afraid you are not. 597 00:30:31,699 --> 00:30:35,179 The relationship is over. It's not you, but it's also not her. 598 00:30:35,260 --> 00:30:38,260 It's Rakesh. But also, it isn't him. 599 00:30:38,340 --> 00:30:40,659 It's Rakesh's boss, who won't let him leave. 600 00:30:41,300 --> 00:30:43,540 The whole operation is highly organized 601 00:30:43,619 --> 00:30:47,340 and set up to get around the usual ways that you might detect a scam. 602 00:30:47,419 --> 00:30:51,260 Some organizations generate their own photos for the profiles, 603 00:30:51,340 --> 00:30:53,939 so that they can't be reverse-image searched. 604 00:30:54,020 --> 00:30:55,340 And employees are given manuals, 605 00:30:55,419 --> 00:30:58,500 like these that guide them through every step of the process. 606 00:30:58,580 --> 00:31:01,260 They're told to target people who look wealthy and successful. 607 00:31:01,340 --> 00:31:03,980 One advises on the first day, talk about things 608 00:31:04,060 --> 00:31:06,939 like your name, age, occupation, and hobbies. 609 00:31:07,020 --> 00:31:09,500 Then, the next day, talk about your emotional experience, 610 00:31:09,580 --> 00:31:12,260 with a message divided into two paragraphs. 611 00:31:12,340 --> 00:31:15,619 And then, on the third day, talk about your entrepreneurial experience. 612 00:31:15,699 --> 00:31:18,820 They're even given tips on how to break down people's defenses. 613 00:31:19,820 --> 00:31:22,139 We reviewed several of these manuals 614 00:31:22,219 --> 00:31:24,939 and they carefully explain how to build trust 615 00:31:25,020 --> 00:31:28,580 and exploit weaknesses in their so-called client, such as… 616 00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:31,540 "Be funny, make clients fall in love with you 617 00:31:31,899 --> 00:31:34,219 so deeply that they forget everything". 618 00:31:34,300 --> 00:31:36,659 The chilling thing is, that's kind of true. 619 00:31:37,179 --> 00:31:39,859 If you're funny enough, you can make people forget a lot of things, 620 00:31:39,939 --> 00:31:42,179 whether it's common-sense internet safeguards, 621 00:31:42,260 --> 00:31:44,020 lessons from previous relationships, 622 00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:46,500 or that they've been accidentally learning about financial fraud 623 00:31:46,580 --> 00:31:49,060 and human trafficking for the last 20 minutes. 624 00:31:49,139 --> 00:31:52,060 We're having fun, aren't we? And if you're thinking 625 00:31:52,139 --> 00:31:55,260 "Why don't authorities just shut these compounds down?" 626 00:31:55,340 --> 00:31:56,820 Sometimes they're in on it. 627 00:31:57,139 --> 00:31:59,820 Here is one man who was trafficked to a scam center in Cambodia, 628 00:31:59,899 --> 00:32:02,580 explaining what happened when he did the obvious thing. 629 00:32:03,139 --> 00:32:06,980 On his second day in captivity, Lu emailed the Chinese embassy. 630 00:32:07,740 --> 00:32:10,100 He was advised to call the Sihanoukville police. 631 00:32:10,179 --> 00:32:11,659 But the police never came. 632 00:32:13,699 --> 00:32:15,899 The property management came instead. 633 00:32:15,980 --> 00:32:17,500 They knew that I'd called the police. 634 00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:19,139 Five days. 635 00:32:19,820 --> 00:32:23,300 Lu says the managers then sold him to another scamming company. 636 00:32:26,060 --> 00:32:28,139 He said "Because I called the police, 637 00:32:28,219 --> 00:32:31,500 they had to take care of the police with at least $4,000, 638 00:32:31,580 --> 00:32:33,260 and I had to pay for that, too." 639 00:32:34,060 --> 00:32:36,260 The authorities weren't gonna help him. 640 00:32:36,340 --> 00:32:37,740 Which actually makes sense when you learn 641 00:32:37,820 --> 00:32:40,699 that, according to UN estimates, pig butchering in Cambodia 642 00:32:40,780 --> 00:32:44,340 brings in an amount equivalent to half the country's GDP. 643 00:32:45,020 --> 00:32:47,219 Which is worrisome, because as everyone knows, 644 00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:50,580 when something generates that much money, you don't shut it down, 645 00:32:50,659 --> 00:32:53,820 you spin it off and pray the magic works a second time. 646 00:32:54,179 --> 00:32:55,219 Come on! 647 00:32:56,300 --> 00:32:58,459 And conditions in these compounds can be brutal. 648 00:32:58,540 --> 00:33:01,260 That man you saw earlier, Rakesh, took photos of abuse like this one, 649 00:33:01,340 --> 00:33:03,179 of a coworker who'd been beaten. 650 00:33:03,260 --> 00:33:06,300 And Lu, who managed to get out, now works to free others, 651 00:33:06,379 --> 00:33:10,219 and the stories of what he's seen are, fair warning, hard to watch. 652 00:33:12,500 --> 00:33:16,980 I saw a man get beaten up very badly. He had injuries all over his body. 653 00:33:18,379 --> 00:33:20,060 Lu contends it was this man, 654 00:33:20,419 --> 00:33:22,859 who was reportedly found hanging just hours later. 655 00:33:23,619 --> 00:33:24,820 I'm certain it was him. 656 00:33:25,260 --> 00:33:27,780 His phone is full of messages from Chinese citizens 657 00:33:28,100 --> 00:33:30,580 desperate to be freed from scam companies. 658 00:33:30,899 --> 00:33:32,300 There's videos of abuse. 659 00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:36,899 Lu says he receives them directly from victims inside the scam industry, 660 00:33:37,260 --> 00:33:40,020 or finds them posted in social media group chats. 661 00:33:40,859 --> 00:33:43,260 And he's got handcuffs. They're shocking. 662 00:33:44,260 --> 00:33:47,139 That is horrifying. And when you know all of this, 663 00:33:47,219 --> 00:33:50,540 it kind of starts to change who exactly you are mad at here. 664 00:33:50,619 --> 00:33:53,060 Because suddenly, the individuals on the other end of the phone 665 00:33:53,139 --> 00:33:55,980 don't seem quite so fun to send a message 666 00:33:56,060 --> 00:33:58,820 of "Weewoo weewoo, boner alert" to. 667 00:33:58,899 --> 00:34:02,500 Not that that isn't an excellent text. Who doesn't love a boner alert? 668 00:34:03,419 --> 00:34:05,939 But there's a time and a place, and this might not be it. 669 00:34:06,020 --> 00:34:09,900 Also, from now on, whenever you get a sexy text from a new stranger, 670 00:34:09,980 --> 00:34:11,299 good luck not thinking 671 00:34:11,380 --> 00:34:14,580 "Is this a man who was just beaten in a work camp in Myanmar?" 672 00:34:14,659 --> 00:34:17,339 And that, if anything, is the John Oliver effect. 673 00:34:17,420 --> 00:34:18,659 You are welcome. 674 00:34:19,980 --> 00:34:24,500 I can't say that every scammer is someone who was kidnapped, 675 00:34:24,580 --> 00:34:26,100 tortured, and forced to do it. 676 00:34:26,179 --> 00:34:29,739 But even if not everyone who's doing this is trapped or coerced, 677 00:34:29,819 --> 00:34:33,100 the very fact that many are, is still a huge problem. 678 00:34:33,179 --> 00:34:34,619 So, what can we do here? 679 00:34:34,699 --> 00:34:37,819 Well, when it comes to those imprisoned in these compounds, 680 00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:40,940 that's gonna take collaboration between international law enforcement. 681 00:34:41,020 --> 00:34:44,900 Unless you are the head of Interpol, which, I'm guessing, you are not, 682 00:34:44,980 --> 00:34:47,299 there's not much you, personally, can do. 683 00:34:47,380 --> 00:34:49,980 Now, in this country, I'd argue that platforms like these 684 00:34:50,060 --> 00:34:51,699 should be doing way more 685 00:34:51,779 --> 00:34:54,380 to prevent the creation of fake accounts to target people 686 00:34:54,460 --> 00:34:56,179 because it's happening on their watch. 687 00:34:56,259 --> 00:35:00,060 But perhaps the most effective way to stop this from happening, 688 00:35:00,139 --> 00:35:04,020 is to make it less lucrative by having fewer people fall for it. 689 00:35:04,380 --> 00:35:07,299 And that is where awareness of this scam is key. 690 00:35:07,380 --> 00:35:09,420 This is one of those rare cases 691 00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:12,980 where raising awareness is, in itself, genuinely useful. 692 00:35:13,500 --> 00:35:17,020 'Cause hopefully you've seen tonight, this could happen to someone you know. 693 00:35:17,100 --> 00:35:20,339 This hasn't just sucked in old people, or those who aren't tech-savvy. 694 00:35:20,420 --> 00:35:22,739 It managed to reel in a bank CEO. 695 00:35:23,179 --> 00:35:25,339 Everyone has an image of the type of person 696 00:35:25,420 --> 00:35:28,100 who is susceptible to getting scammed in their heads, 697 00:35:28,179 --> 00:35:31,100 but unless that image is a mirror, ya might be wrong. 698 00:35:31,739 --> 00:35:34,380 So, as a general rule, when a stranger on a dating app 699 00:35:34,460 --> 00:35:38,860 says "I love you" or "crypto" within a month of talking to you, worry. 700 00:35:39,619 --> 00:35:42,020 Honestly, even if they don't turn out to be scammers, 701 00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:45,380 those are pretty good red flags to be looking for, personality-wise. 702 00:35:46,219 --> 00:35:49,779 And it's worth telling your friends and family about pig butchering, too. 703 00:35:49,860 --> 00:35:51,779 It doesn't have to be a big lecture or anything, 704 00:35:51,860 --> 00:35:54,219 you can just send them a link to this show. 705 00:35:54,299 --> 00:35:56,139 And if they say "I hate that guy", 706 00:35:56,219 --> 00:35:59,580 say, "Yeah, me too, he's the worst, just skip past the jokes". 707 00:35:59,659 --> 00:36:02,540 And if they say, "I'll watch it, but he looks like a LEGO accountant. 708 00:36:02,619 --> 00:36:06,219 Wait, no. He looks like ChatGPT's answer to 'show me a virgin. 709 00:36:06,819 --> 00:36:10,380 ' Wait, no. He looks like Harry Potter if he just stayed under the stairs." 710 00:36:10,860 --> 00:36:14,179 Leave them on read. You don't have to completely sell me out. 711 00:36:15,060 --> 00:36:18,259 Maybe drop a thumbs-up emoji, but please, leave it at that. 712 00:36:19,139 --> 00:36:23,420 If you know someone who's been scammed like this, try to be kind. 713 00:36:23,819 --> 00:36:26,139 It is human to want companionship. 714 00:36:26,219 --> 00:36:28,980 And it's actually a nice quality to be trusting of people. 715 00:36:29,060 --> 00:36:30,619 It sucks that the internet, 716 00:36:30,699 --> 00:36:32,779 which should be a way to alleviate loneliness, 717 00:36:32,860 --> 00:36:35,020 can be turned into a tool to exploit it. 718 00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:37,659 But maybe, if we all look out for one another, 719 00:36:38,020 --> 00:36:41,259 we can ensure that the worst mistake anyone ever makes on the internet 720 00:36:41,339 --> 00:36:45,100 is inadvertently buying an excellent Christmas tree for gay mice. 721 00:36:45,179 --> 00:36:47,739 Because honestly, it's really not that bad a purchase. 722 00:36:47,819 --> 00:36:50,779 Believe me, I know what I'm talking about. 723 00:36:51,860 --> 00:36:53,259 And now, this! 724 00:36:54,339 --> 00:36:55,659 And Now: 725 00:36:55,739 --> 00:36:59,739 Local News Loses It Over Major League Baseball's New Pants. 726 00:37:00,259 --> 00:37:01,980 Major League Baseball introduced new uniforms this year, 727 00:37:02,060 --> 00:37:03,139 but there's a problem. 728 00:37:03,219 --> 00:37:07,739 The pants are made of thinner fabric, making them almost see through, Chris. 729 00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:10,699 - Wait, what? - Photos all over the internet… 730 00:37:10,779 --> 00:37:12,179 You've got my attention. 731 00:37:12,259 --> 00:37:14,900 Luckily, the tucked-in shirts keeping things covered for… 732 00:37:14,980 --> 00:37:15,980 Look at him, his hands! 733 00:37:16,619 --> 00:37:20,139 - You can see the little tags. - We saw it. 734 00:37:20,219 --> 00:37:21,460 What's it? 735 00:37:23,739 --> 00:37:28,060 - Steve! Okay. - We saw the bottom of their… 736 00:37:28,139 --> 00:37:30,060 Does he look happy wearing them? No. 737 00:37:30,139 --> 00:37:31,860 He looks happy wearing them. 738 00:37:32,219 --> 00:37:33,580 Do you see the problem though? 739 00:37:33,659 --> 00:37:35,380 I don't think girls are saying there's a problem there. 740 00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:37,659 The players, I think, probably have an issue with it. 741 00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:42,139 Now if I've got patterns on my boxer briefs everyone's gonna see that? 742 00:37:42,219 --> 00:37:44,179 I don't know. Suddenly, I'm very interested in baseball. 743 00:37:44,259 --> 00:37:47,060 Bianca is on her elbows on the desk trying to get closer. 744 00:37:47,139 --> 00:37:48,819 Can we zoom into these photos a little bit more? 745 00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:53,100 - I can't tell 'cause I have bad eyes - You can see the shirt tucked in. 746 00:37:53,860 --> 00:37:55,860 Maybe these uniforms will get more women 747 00:37:55,940 --> 00:37:59,179 that aren't watching baseball already to watch baseball. 748 00:38:00,060 --> 00:38:03,540 - You've got Derica's interest. - That's what I said. 749 00:38:05,540 --> 00:38:07,380 - It's a good recruiting device. - Yes, it is. 750 00:38:07,699 --> 00:38:10,699 - I see nothing wrong with the pants. - I think they're fine. 751 00:38:10,779 --> 00:38:12,179 I was inspecting to see a problem. 752 00:38:12,860 --> 00:38:14,580 All right. If snakes make you… 753 00:38:19,339 --> 00:38:21,460 Who put this order of these stories in here? 754 00:38:24,980 --> 00:38:27,580 Thanks so much for watching. We'll see you next week, good night! 68000

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