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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:06,460 In 2002, Playboy was doing 2 00:00:06,500 --> 00:00:09,080 their first-ever nationally televised search 3 00:00:09,130 --> 00:00:10,510 for a "Playboy" centerfold. 4 00:00:10,550 --> 00:00:12,140 ANNOUNCER: Fox tonight, 5 00:00:12,170 --> 00:00:15,170 12 sexy girls next door find out what it takes 6 00:00:15,180 --> 00:00:17,140 to become a "Playboy" Playmate. 7 00:00:17,180 --> 00:00:18,640 It was similar to, like, 8 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,090 an "America’s Next Top Model" but for Playmates. 9 00:00:21,140 --> 00:00:23,600 On the show, there were different levels 10 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,220 of undress that were happening. 11 00:00:26,270 --> 00:00:29,440 I didn’t even know how to pose in a sexual way. 12 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,730 Posing naked for the first time... 13 00:00:32,740 --> 00:00:34,370 was terrifying. 14 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,400 I was very insecure about my body. 15 00:00:37,450 --> 00:00:41,830 Once I posed for the show, I was no longer Jill Scott. 16 00:00:41,870 --> 00:00:45,660 I was now Jill that posed naked. 17 00:00:45,710 --> 00:00:47,630 It’s so wrong. 18 00:00:49,630 --> 00:00:51,300 That’s the dark side, is what people say, 19 00:00:51,340 --> 00:00:53,140 you know, behind your back 20 00:00:53,170 --> 00:00:55,880 or to your parents or to your kids. 21 00:00:55,930 --> 00:00:58,060 We signed up for it, you know? 22 00:00:58,100 --> 00:01:00,850 We kinda knew what we were going into. 23 00:01:00,890 --> 00:01:04,980 But with "Playboy," you can either thrive in it... 24 00:01:04,980 --> 00:01:08,070 or it can chew you up and spit you out. 25 00:01:08,110 --> 00:01:10,780 [motor revving] 26 00:01:10,820 --> 00:01:12,410 My name is Hugh Hefner. 27 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:13,770 I’m editor-publisher of "Playboy" Magazine. 28 00:01:13,780 --> 00:01:15,160 REPORTER: Playboy is one 29 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,910 of the most famous brand names in the world. 30 00:01:17,950 --> 00:01:20,330 It was simply to include sex as 31 00:01:20,370 --> 00:01:23,290 one natural part of a package for a male audience. 32 00:01:23,330 --> 00:01:25,170 WOMAN: When I made the choice to do "Playboy," 33 00:01:25,210 --> 00:01:27,460 I didn’t realize all the choices that I was making 34 00:01:27,500 --> 00:01:29,760 that came with that choice. 35 00:01:29,790 --> 00:01:32,710 WOMAN #2: We don’t judge the men for buying the "Playboy"s, 36 00:01:32,750 --> 00:01:35,250 but we judge the women for posing for "Playboy." 37 00:01:35,300 --> 00:01:37,310 JILL: I was never Jill anymore. 38 00:01:37,340 --> 00:01:40,010 I was Jill that posed for "Playboy." 39 00:01:40,050 --> 00:01:42,050 WOMAN #3: I just gave in and knew that I was 40 00:01:42,100 --> 00:01:43,900 probably gonna go to hell. 41 00:01:43,930 --> 00:01:45,720 WOMAN #4: It got to a certain point 42 00:01:45,770 --> 00:01:47,900 where it wasn’t fun anymore. 43 00:01:47,940 --> 00:01:50,440 SONDRA: This process was very painful, 44 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,850 but I should be able to tell my story as I lived it. 45 00:02:05,500 --> 00:02:08,670 Growing up, my first "Playboy" memory 46 00:02:08,710 --> 00:02:11,550 would just be, in general, the beautiful women. 47 00:02:11,590 --> 00:02:13,510 It was, you know, Carmen Electra, 48 00:02:13,550 --> 00:02:16,930 Pam Anderson, Anna Nicole, the--the start of it all-- 49 00:02:16,970 --> 00:02:20,100 Marilyn Monroe, the most beautiful women. 50 00:02:20,140 --> 00:02:23,060 When I found my dad’s "Playboy"s, 51 00:02:23,100 --> 00:02:26,310 I just thought the women were beautiful, 52 00:02:26,350 --> 00:02:29,150 and I just wanted to look like that. 53 00:02:29,190 --> 00:02:30,940 I wanted to be like that. 54 00:02:33,070 --> 00:02:36,780 Playboy opened up a world 55 00:02:36,820 --> 00:02:38,990 that I would have never known, 56 00:02:39,030 --> 00:02:42,200 But that could be good or bad. 57 00:02:43,870 --> 00:02:46,920 In 2001, the Playboy brand had a bit of a renaissance. 58 00:02:49,290 --> 00:02:52,300 At the time, Hefner had just broken up with his wife. 59 00:02:52,330 --> 00:02:54,080 He was back on the market. 60 00:02:54,130 --> 00:02:56,380 PHOTOGRAPHER: This way now, girls. This way. 61 00:02:56,420 --> 00:03:01,800 Playboy also was in the market to try to mainstream their brand 62 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,510 ’cause the print media was going out of business. 63 00:03:04,550 --> 00:03:06,430 Hefner saw his business dying. 64 00:03:06,470 --> 00:03:08,470 So, it’s not surprising 65 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,690 that any company would do whatever they have to 66 00:03:10,730 --> 00:03:13,280 to kind of sell what they need to to other people. 67 00:03:13,310 --> 00:03:15,940 So, 2001, there was several years 68 00:03:15,980 --> 00:03:19,150 of house shows that were being pretty mainstream on MTV, 69 00:03:19,190 --> 00:03:20,980 like "The Real World," 70 00:03:21,030 --> 00:03:22,080 "Road Rules," 71 00:03:22,110 --> 00:03:23,780 "Making the Band." 72 00:03:23,820 --> 00:03:26,280 It was the peak of reality shows. 73 00:03:26,330 --> 00:03:28,710 I don’t know anybody that didn’t spend their afternoons watching 74 00:03:28,750 --> 00:03:31,500 "Real World" or "Road Rules" on MTV. 75 00:03:31,540 --> 00:03:35,170 This was the, like, explosion of reality TV. 76 00:03:35,210 --> 00:03:38,370 So, if Playboy could come up with a television show, 77 00:03:38,420 --> 00:03:43,300 it could lead to other things. Playboy could be mainstream. 78 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,980 And so the chance to pick a "Playboy" Playmate on television 79 00:03:51,020 --> 00:03:52,860 was something that really hadn’t been seen before. 80 00:03:52,890 --> 00:03:55,850 So, ultimately, Playboy got a sale 81 00:03:55,860 --> 00:03:58,700 for a 2-hour special on Fox, 82 00:03:58,730 --> 00:04:00,060 and I was appointed the showrunner. 83 00:04:00,110 --> 00:04:03,080 Our goal was to ultimately give everybody 84 00:04:03,110 --> 00:04:05,530 a glimpse what it’s like picking a "Playboy" centerfold 85 00:04:05,570 --> 00:04:07,530 without being perverse. 86 00:04:07,580 --> 00:04:11,710 HEFNER: This is the portal to the possibility of Hollywood 87 00:04:11,750 --> 00:04:16,130 or modeling or some moment in the sun as a celebrity. 88 00:04:16,170 --> 00:04:17,760 "Who Wants to Be a Playboy Centerfold?"-- 89 00:04:17,790 --> 00:04:20,170 it was similar to, like, an "America’s Next Top Model," 90 00:04:20,210 --> 00:04:21,670 but for Playmates. 91 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,010 The prize was becoming the centerfold, 92 00:04:23,050 --> 00:04:25,310 being Playmate, Mis July 2002. 93 00:04:27,180 --> 00:04:31,690 So, the dream of being a centerfold, obviously, is 94 00:04:31,730 --> 00:04:34,570 for the fame, but it is very lucrative. 95 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:35,930 It’s very lucrative. 96 00:04:36,020 --> 00:04:40,980 A centerfold gets $25,000 for Playmate of the Month 97 00:04:41,030 --> 00:04:44,370 and $100,000 for Playmate of the Year, 98 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,610 and you can actually turn that into a whole career. 99 00:04:50,410 --> 00:04:51,700 When we were out casting 100 00:04:51,750 --> 00:04:53,500 for "Who Wants to Be a Playboy Centerfold?", 101 00:04:53,540 --> 00:04:55,340 there were thousands of submissions. 102 00:04:55,370 --> 00:04:56,950 D.J.: Star 98.7, Los Angeles. 103 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,040 Right now, down at Playboy Studio West, 104 00:04:59,090 --> 00:05:01,050 Hugh Hefner is looking for 12 finalists 105 00:05:01,090 --> 00:05:03,720 to compete for "Playboy"’s Playmate of the Month. 106 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,510 We really spread a pretty wide net in the process 107 00:05:06,550 --> 00:05:08,170 because we were looking for something 108 00:05:08,220 --> 00:05:11,770 that Playboy had--had embodied for years and years and years-- 109 00:05:11,810 --> 00:05:13,230 that real experience 110 00:05:13,270 --> 00:05:16,770 of someone being plucked out of hometown USA 111 00:05:16,810 --> 00:05:19,430 and brought to Los Angeles and living the dream. 112 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,900 Hef always said that--that when he was picking Playmates, 113 00:05:22,940 --> 00:05:25,270 he wanted it to be the girl next door. 114 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,690 That would be what would-- to him, what made it special 115 00:05:28,740 --> 00:05:30,530 is the girl that you never thought would do it, 116 00:05:30,580 --> 00:05:32,540 not the girl that you knew would. 117 00:05:32,540 --> 00:05:35,500 My name is Shallan. I’m 20 years old, 118 00:05:35,540 --> 00:05:36,670 and I’m from Las Vegas. 119 00:05:36,710 --> 00:05:38,960 Playboy was not my dream. 120 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,370 I had just moved back to Las Vegas. 121 00:05:41,420 --> 00:05:44,840 I got a job at Spago as a hostess, 122 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,920 and you get all different types of people 123 00:05:46,970 --> 00:05:49,600 that come into Spago’s that was in Caesar’s Palace. 124 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,100 And this woman and another woman walk up, 125 00:05:52,100 --> 00:05:54,560 and she said, "Can I ask you a couple questions? 126 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,230 Are your boobs real?" 127 00:05:56,270 --> 00:05:57,900 In my mind, I’m thinking, I’m not sure 128 00:05:57,940 --> 00:06:00,650 if this woman’s hitting on me. I just politely smiled 129 00:06:00,690 --> 00:06:03,910 and said, "Yes, they are." [laughs] 130 00:06:03,940 --> 00:06:06,690 And so she gave me her card, and she said, "Listen, 131 00:06:06,740 --> 00:06:09,540 we’re doing the last round of casting for this show. 132 00:06:09,570 --> 00:06:12,490 I think you’d be great for, but it’s with ’Playboy.’" 133 00:06:12,530 --> 00:06:15,450 My face just looked like this. 134 00:06:15,500 --> 00:06:17,250 So, I let her know I was only 20, 135 00:06:17,290 --> 00:06:19,500 so she told me I should talk to my mom. 136 00:06:19,540 --> 00:06:21,250 I had never even seen a "Playboy" before. 137 00:06:22,790 --> 00:06:25,040 So, my mom thought it would be really important 138 00:06:25,090 --> 00:06:28,180 for me to go pick up a "Playboy," look at it, 139 00:06:28,220 --> 00:06:29,890 and see if the photos made me comfortable or not, 140 00:06:29,930 --> 00:06:33,230 see if it even seemed like something I could possibly do. 141 00:06:33,260 --> 00:06:36,300 But I was shy, so to pick up, you know, the magazine 142 00:06:36,350 --> 00:06:39,520 that had the black cover on it, like, quietly pay for it, 143 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,140 I remember looking at the "Playboy" and thinking, 144 00:06:41,190 --> 00:06:42,860 wow, these women are gorgeous. 145 00:06:42,860 --> 00:06:45,490 I thought there is no way 146 00:06:45,530 --> 00:06:47,160 that they could make me look like those girls. 147 00:06:47,190 --> 00:06:50,730 You know, ’cause those girls-- they just don’t look real. 148 00:06:50,780 --> 00:06:52,360 I felt like I was peeling through the pictures, 149 00:06:52,410 --> 00:06:55,750 kind of getting, uh, nervous, ’cause I knew whatever it was 150 00:06:55,790 --> 00:06:57,460 was a big opportunity. 151 00:06:57,500 --> 00:07:00,460 It’s just whether or not I could be comfortable enough 152 00:07:00,460 --> 00:07:02,050 to go through with it, and I’m like, 153 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,910 what I told my mom is, 154 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,370 I don’t know if I’m gonna be able to get naked. 155 00:07:06,420 --> 00:07:10,210 She goes, "Well, there’s only one way to find out." [laughs] 156 00:07:10,260 --> 00:07:12,470 I was incredibly shy, 157 00:07:12,510 --> 00:07:15,510 and the idea of walking around in a swimsuit 158 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,060 made me uncomfortable. 159 00:07:17,060 --> 00:07:20,400 I was scared, but, um, tired of being scared. 160 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,570 I don’t know--I feel like everyone’s done that before, 161 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,230 where there’s a lot of opportunities that led up 162 00:07:25,270 --> 00:07:27,900 to this opportunity, where I wondered what could have been, 163 00:07:27,940 --> 00:07:29,900 but I was just too afraid to do something. 164 00:07:29,950 --> 00:07:32,370 My mother said, "Well, what are you thinking?" 165 00:07:32,410 --> 00:07:33,740 And I told her, "I don’t know." 166 00:07:33,780 --> 00:07:35,700 I was sitting there, and all I could think about was, 167 00:07:35,740 --> 00:07:37,860 what if I’m 80 years old, 168 00:07:37,910 --> 00:07:40,490 and I have this story of what could have been, 169 00:07:40,540 --> 00:07:42,460 what I could have said yes to. 170 00:07:42,460 --> 00:07:44,670 I could either be 80 years old and be like, 171 00:07:44,710 --> 00:07:46,970 "You know, somebody tried to cast me once," 172 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,880 or I could be, "Hey, let me show you these crazy pictures. 173 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,420 Grandma was hot once." [laughs] 174 00:07:52,470 --> 00:07:54,220 So, I went ahead and I said yes. 175 00:07:54,260 --> 00:07:56,420 I want to say it was about two days later 176 00:07:56,470 --> 00:07:59,340 that I had to fly to L.A. for the casting. 177 00:07:59,390 --> 00:08:02,310 I was not very good at makeup. 178 00:08:02,350 --> 00:08:07,230 Uh, my hair was a lot like this, and I was in, like, cargo pants. 179 00:08:07,270 --> 00:08:08,770 So, I’m getting on the airplane with these girls. 180 00:08:08,820 --> 00:08:11,820 These girls had the heels. They had the lashes. 181 00:08:11,860 --> 00:08:13,730 They had the lips. They had the hair. 182 00:08:13,780 --> 00:08:16,080 What am I doing here? [laughs] 183 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:17,960 Like, why am I even here? 184 00:08:17,990 --> 00:08:19,530 Is this a waste of time? Is this a joke? 185 00:08:19,580 --> 00:08:22,040 Am I, like, the, okay, they have to throw that girl in there? 186 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,380 Right? 187 00:08:23,420 --> 00:08:25,670 We get there, and right away 188 00:08:25,710 --> 00:08:27,760 they take us to Playboy Studio West. 189 00:08:27,790 --> 00:08:30,040 Uh, they have me put on a bathing suit, 190 00:08:30,090 --> 00:08:32,390 put on a robe within a handful of minutes, 191 00:08:32,420 --> 00:08:34,710 and the whole time, this crew is filming me. 192 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:35,810 -I’m Billy. -Shallan. 193 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,130 -Shallan? -Shallan. 194 00:08:37,180 --> 00:08:39,730 We’re just gonna take about 10 or so Polaroids. 195 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,010 Okay. I’ve never done anything like that before, so... 196 00:08:42,060 --> 00:08:43,650 -Oh, really? Okay. -Really. 197 00:08:43,690 --> 00:08:45,610 Then you are just like the girl next door. 198 00:08:45,650 --> 00:08:49,990 The casting just kind of threw you in, like, hard, 199 00:08:50,030 --> 00:08:51,070 like, "All right, take your top off. 200 00:08:51,110 --> 00:08:52,410 We got to get a Polaroid." 201 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:53,610 And I’m like... [gasps] 202 00:08:53,650 --> 00:08:56,070 And they’re like, "It’s now or never." 203 00:09:02,660 --> 00:09:04,330 ANNOUNCER: One by one, the ladies will be eliminated 204 00:09:04,370 --> 00:09:07,580 until the chosen one becomes the magazine’s Miss July. 205 00:09:07,580 --> 00:09:09,080 Hi, I’m Carmella. 206 00:09:09,090 --> 00:09:10,590 I’m from Westlake, Ohio, and I’m 19. 207 00:09:10,670 --> 00:09:14,090 I was so young. So young. 208 00:09:17,260 --> 00:09:19,840 I grew up in Cleveland, Ohio. 209 00:09:19,890 --> 00:09:24,940 I was not a very pretty young girl. 210 00:09:25,020 --> 00:09:26,770 I got made fun of at school. 211 00:09:26,770 --> 00:09:30,440 I used to go home crying every day from school. 212 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:37,020 I was a super shy, very intimidated little girl. 213 00:09:37,070 --> 00:09:40,900 But by the time I turned 19, Playboy came to town 214 00:09:40,950 --> 00:09:43,780 for "Who Wants to Be a Playboy Centerfold?" 215 00:09:43,870 --> 00:09:45,590 It was on the local news 216 00:09:45,620 --> 00:09:47,620 and explained the premise of the show, 217 00:09:47,710 --> 00:09:49,460 and I looked at the TV, and I’m like, 218 00:09:49,460 --> 00:09:51,050 "I’m gonna do that." 219 00:09:51,090 --> 00:09:53,630 So, I take it you’re interested in being in "Playboy"? 220 00:09:53,710 --> 00:09:55,880 Yes, I wanna be a Playmate. 221 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,630 I’m nervous, but I’m kind of excited, though. 222 00:09:59,430 --> 00:10:01,430 The audition process in and of itself 223 00:10:01,470 --> 00:10:04,140 was, uh, very intimidating. 224 00:10:04,220 --> 00:10:05,720 There’s no preparation. 225 00:10:05,770 --> 00:10:08,650 It was--it’s--it’s a freak out. It’s a freak-out moment. 226 00:10:09,940 --> 00:10:12,900 I didn’t even know how to pose in a sexual way. 227 00:10:12,900 --> 00:10:17,490 I was 19, so it was definitely new 228 00:10:17,570 --> 00:10:20,780 and, um...awkward. 229 00:10:20,820 --> 00:10:23,650 My name is Lauren Anderson. I’m 21 years old, 230 00:10:23,660 --> 00:10:26,160 and I’m from Gainesville, Florida. 231 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,830 I would like to be a veterinarian someday. 232 00:10:28,830 --> 00:10:31,450 Animals are-- are definitely my passion. 233 00:10:31,500 --> 00:10:32,830 Playboy wasn’t on-- 234 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,000 I mean, no, that was not something 235 00:10:35,090 --> 00:10:38,170 that I had a dream of being. 236 00:10:38,170 --> 00:10:40,760 I was in college at the University of Florida, 237 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,510 and I was studying to be a veterinarian. 238 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,520 Being in "Playboy" when 239 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,020 the situation presented itself, I was in my senior year. 240 00:10:48,100 --> 00:10:50,430 I had done a little bit of local modeling, 241 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,360 and my agent, uh, called me and said that Playboy 242 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,860 was coming to do the "College Girls" issue. 243 00:10:54,860 --> 00:10:56,690 She said, "Just go. You don’t have to do it, you know? 244 00:10:56,690 --> 00:10:57,860 Just go see what it’s all about." 245 00:10:57,940 --> 00:10:59,690 And I-I went, and, um, 246 00:10:59,780 --> 00:11:02,830 I told them that I would not pose fully nude, 247 00:11:02,870 --> 00:11:04,530 but they said, okay, 248 00:11:04,530 --> 00:11:07,450 and--and they still selected me to represent my university, 249 00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:09,210 and I was only topless. 250 00:11:09,290 --> 00:11:11,670 You know, Playboy is--it has-- they have this way 251 00:11:11,710 --> 00:11:13,880 of just making you feel totally comfortable, 252 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,720 even when you’re--even when you’re standing there 253 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,130 without a top on. 254 00:11:17,170 --> 00:11:20,630 When I was in high school, middle school, 255 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:23,720 I always was worried about my body and what it looked like. 256 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,800 And even though I was thin, again, 257 00:11:25,850 --> 00:11:28,890 I-I didn’t have a perfect body. Nobody has a perfect body. 258 00:11:28,890 --> 00:11:31,890 But I had these boobs that were, you know, 259 00:11:31,980 --> 00:11:34,030 yes, you know, boys loved ’em, 260 00:11:34,060 --> 00:11:36,890 but they were these boobs that were a real issue for me. 261 00:11:36,980 --> 00:11:40,400 This is the "College Girls" issue that I was in, 262 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,070 representing the University of Florida 263 00:11:42,070 --> 00:11:43,730 for "Girls of the SEC," 264 00:11:43,740 --> 00:11:45,500 and there’s mine. 265 00:11:45,530 --> 00:11:48,910 -PRODUCER: How old were you? -Just turned 21. 266 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,420 So shortly after I did the "College Girls" issue, 267 00:11:51,500 --> 00:11:54,340 I got a call from Playboy that they were doing a-- 268 00:11:54,380 --> 00:11:56,750 their first-ever nationally, um, televised search 269 00:11:56,750 --> 00:11:58,420 for a "Playboy" centerfold 270 00:11:58,500 --> 00:12:00,750 and asked if I wanted to go and audition in Miami. 271 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,250 I kind of went, just like, oh, that-- 272 00:12:02,260 --> 00:12:04,390 that would be a cool experience. 273 00:12:04,430 --> 00:12:06,760 She had driven down from, um, 274 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,930 her college at University of Florida. 275 00:12:09,020 --> 00:12:10,560 Lauren was very confident. 276 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,940 Um, you can tell she is competitive, 277 00:12:12,940 --> 00:12:16,770 and she definitely understood what she was doing there 278 00:12:16,770 --> 00:12:18,890 and what her goals were, um, 279 00:12:18,900 --> 00:12:21,950 but she was insecure in her own body in some ways, 280 00:12:22,030 --> 00:12:24,450 which made her interesting to us. 281 00:12:24,530 --> 00:12:27,070 Very nice right there. One, two, and three. 282 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:28,950 -[camera shutter clicks] -Very--That is beautiful. 283 00:12:28,950 --> 00:12:30,570 Excellent. Arch your back. 284 00:12:30,620 --> 00:12:32,040 -Three. -[camera shutter clicks] 285 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,580 Ugh. Tugs at my heartstrings, seeing myself like that. 286 00:12:35,630 --> 00:12:37,050 It’s pretty uncomfortable, though. 287 00:12:37,090 --> 00:12:40,130 That--That--That shot that’s on all fours, 288 00:12:40,210 --> 00:12:42,290 that was a little odd. I don’t remember doing that. 289 00:12:42,380 --> 00:12:43,920 You know, I feel like when I’m-- I’m watching that, 290 00:12:43,970 --> 00:12:46,140 I’m just this kid. 291 00:12:46,140 --> 00:12:47,730 Even though I’m an adult, obviously, 292 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,880 and just posing on all fours 293 00:12:49,930 --> 00:12:51,140 and, you know, posing in a bikini, 294 00:12:51,140 --> 00:12:52,930 like, it’s no big thing, 295 00:12:52,980 --> 00:12:55,650 and then jump in my Mustang and head back to college. 296 00:12:55,730 --> 00:12:57,400 [laughs] 297 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,770 I was just so young and innocent. 298 00:13:01,820 --> 00:13:03,280 My name is Jill Scott. 299 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,660 I’m 21 years old, and I’m from Atlanta, Georgia. 300 00:13:05,660 --> 00:13:06,910 [laughs] 301 00:13:06,950 --> 00:13:10,250 When I was 20, 302 00:13:10,290 --> 00:13:12,580 I worked at a club in Atlanta, 303 00:13:12,620 --> 00:13:17,330 and I ran into a girl that I also worked with at Hooters. 304 00:13:17,420 --> 00:13:18,590 She ran up to me, and she was like, 305 00:13:18,630 --> 00:13:21,670 "Oh, my gosh, I just shot for ’Playboy.’" 306 00:13:21,670 --> 00:13:23,790 And I was like, "I would love to-- 307 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,640 What? I would love to do that." 308 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:28,680 So within a week, I was doing my test shots for "Playboy." 309 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,760 That was my first time ever, ever posing nude. 310 00:13:31,810 --> 00:13:35,110 It just--It never bothered me. It... 311 00:13:35,140 --> 00:13:39,140 I ended up doing, like, 20 special editions. 312 00:13:39,190 --> 00:13:40,860 "Playboy College Girls," 313 00:13:40,860 --> 00:13:43,610 "Playboy Nudes," "Playboy Lingerie." 314 00:13:43,650 --> 00:13:47,690 So, the...photographer that shot me 315 00:13:47,700 --> 00:13:52,710 for these special editions called me one day and said, 316 00:13:52,790 --> 00:13:55,540 "Get--Get your butt down to Atlanta." [laughs] 317 00:13:55,540 --> 00:13:57,550 She didn’t even tell me what it was about. 318 00:13:57,620 --> 00:14:00,450 She just said, "They’re doing a casting call." 319 00:14:00,460 --> 00:14:03,840 So, I get there, and they took a headshot. 320 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,380 The raw Polaroid. 321 00:14:05,380 --> 00:14:07,550 There’s no hair. There’s no makeup. 322 00:14:07,630 --> 00:14:11,170 There’s no lighting. It is what you look like. 323 00:14:11,180 --> 00:14:15,650 The--The girls that I saw in my audition were flawless. 324 00:14:15,680 --> 00:14:19,220 Fake boobs, spray-tanned, itty-bitty waist. 325 00:14:19,310 --> 00:14:21,890 So, I had no idea if I should have even been there, 326 00:14:21,900 --> 00:14:24,320 or if I was just really good drama. 327 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,690 Hey, let’s take this girl that’s never even seen a "Playboy," 328 00:14:26,740 --> 00:14:29,330 that hasn’t done anything, and let’s just throw her in. 329 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,360 [blows raspberry] See what happens. 330 00:14:31,410 --> 00:14:33,830 I would definitely put you onto the next round. 331 00:14:33,870 --> 00:14:36,500 -Really? -Absolutely. Absolutely. 332 00:14:36,540 --> 00:14:37,840 So, you’re in there for the interview. 333 00:14:37,870 --> 00:14:39,200 [laughs] 334 00:14:39,250 --> 00:14:41,920 So, when the women were selected, 335 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,330 Hefner was very good at that part of verbalizing 336 00:14:46,380 --> 00:14:48,250 what this woman had or what this woman lacked 337 00:14:48,260 --> 00:14:50,090 or what they thought was important here 338 00:14:50,090 --> 00:14:51,590 or what they thought were contenders there. 339 00:14:51,590 --> 00:14:54,260 Jill Scott. Any reactions? 340 00:14:54,260 --> 00:14:56,090 She looks like a Texas cheerleader to me. 341 00:14:56,100 --> 00:15:00,020 Mm-hmm. She looks like a very logical candidate. 342 00:15:00,020 --> 00:15:02,530 So, I got the final phone call, 343 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,270 and they said, "You’ve made it. You’re coming to L.A.," 344 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,780 which I’ve never even been on a plane before. [laughs] 345 00:15:10,780 --> 00:15:16,540 Being one of 12 girls chosen in the entire country was surreal. 346 00:15:16,580 --> 00:15:19,460 -You’ve been picked. -[screams and laughs] 347 00:15:19,540 --> 00:15:20,790 [loud cheers and laughter] 348 00:15:20,790 --> 00:15:22,790 I wasn’t sure if I could go through with it, 349 00:15:22,790 --> 00:15:24,620 but I was really excited. 350 00:15:24,630 --> 00:15:26,380 -Hi. Is this Shallan? -Yes, it is. 351 00:15:26,380 --> 00:15:27,550 You’re coming out to California 352 00:15:27,590 --> 00:15:29,130 [laughs] 353 00:15:29,130 --> 00:15:30,630 I was shocked when they picked me. 354 00:15:30,630 --> 00:15:34,090 You were one of the people that, um, was chosen. 355 00:15:34,140 --> 00:15:35,810 Yay. [laughs] 356 00:15:35,810 --> 00:15:38,480 I wasn’t terrified of posing. I wasn’t terrified of "Playboy." 357 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,810 I was terrified of living in a house 358 00:15:40,810 --> 00:15:43,150 and competing with 11 other women. 359 00:15:43,150 --> 00:15:46,740 CARMELLA: I was so excited, 360 00:15:46,770 --> 00:15:49,060 nervous, shocked. 361 00:15:49,110 --> 00:15:52,120 There were just such a range of emotions 362 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,580 that I felt terrified, 363 00:15:54,620 --> 00:15:57,250 and especially coming from such a small town, 364 00:15:57,290 --> 00:16:00,500 it was so difficult for me to leave. 365 00:16:00,580 --> 00:16:02,840 But I had dreams, and big ones. 366 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,420 Next thing I knew, I was landing at LAX 367 00:16:05,460 --> 00:16:08,180 and completely freaking out. 368 00:16:14,470 --> 00:16:16,100 When you first walk in the house, 369 00:16:16,140 --> 00:16:17,810 all the furniture was beautiful, 370 00:16:17,850 --> 00:16:20,520 and it, you know, just didn’t really seem real. 371 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,520 Everybody just sort of walked around 372 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,260 talking to each other about, you know, 373 00:16:24,310 --> 00:16:26,680 "What do you do?" Or--and, you know, 374 00:16:26,770 --> 00:16:27,810 "What modeling have you done?" 375 00:16:27,860 --> 00:16:29,110 That’s all the chatter was, 376 00:16:29,150 --> 00:16:30,860 comparing ourselves to everybody else. 377 00:16:30,860 --> 00:16:35,040 I was, um, Savannah’s Miss Hawaiian Tropic. 378 00:16:35,110 --> 00:16:36,820 We talked with "Playboy," and we really came up 379 00:16:36,870 --> 00:16:38,960 with a 3-pronged attack 380 00:16:38,990 --> 00:16:41,200 of how we’re going to feature the women, 381 00:16:41,290 --> 00:16:43,290 because we need to show the audience 382 00:16:43,330 --> 00:16:45,330 that there was a process, right? 383 00:16:45,370 --> 00:16:46,660 How they look in a bikini, 384 00:16:46,710 --> 00:16:48,510 how they look over here by the banister. 385 00:16:48,540 --> 00:16:50,330 And, obviously, in this process, 386 00:16:50,380 --> 00:16:53,720 there were different levels of undress that were happening. 387 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,670 The audition process with cameras-- 388 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,640 that--I mean, that was really intense, 389 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,350 but that is nothing compared to the actual experience 390 00:16:59,390 --> 00:17:01,720 of filming a reality show. 391 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,390 You were just filmed 24/7. 392 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,900 They were filming everything at all times. 393 00:17:05,980 --> 00:17:07,690 You start to open your eyes, 394 00:17:07,730 --> 00:17:09,060 and literally there’s somebody standing over a bed, 395 00:17:09,070 --> 00:17:12,070 like, with the camera in your face 396 00:17:12,150 --> 00:17:15,070 watching you wake up. 397 00:17:15,150 --> 00:17:17,480 And like most house reality shows, 398 00:17:17,530 --> 00:17:20,570 there were definitely characters that everyone was playing, 399 00:17:20,660 --> 00:17:22,880 and--and whether or not you realized it, 400 00:17:22,910 --> 00:17:25,080 the production company itself 401 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,700 had already picked which character you were gonna be. 402 00:17:27,750 --> 00:17:29,080 I believed that they decided 403 00:17:29,170 --> 00:17:33,340 I’d be the quiet, relatable underdog. 404 00:17:33,380 --> 00:17:37,210 From the beginning, I was typecast as the wild child. 405 00:17:37,260 --> 00:17:39,760 I am definitely the wild girl from Atlanta. 406 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:45,600 I drank and ended up showing my...clit piercing. 407 00:17:45,690 --> 00:17:47,070 Let me see. 408 00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:50,100 I am, too. Oh, my God. Look at mine. [laughs] 409 00:17:50,110 --> 00:17:54,030 So, one night, we went out to a bar in L.A. 410 00:17:54,070 --> 00:17:56,620 [cheers and laughter] 411 00:17:56,700 --> 00:17:58,450 WOMAN: Jill is the total wild child, 412 00:17:58,530 --> 00:18:00,110 the one that you get around, 413 00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:02,580 and you just can’t wait to see what she’s gonna do next. 414 00:18:02,620 --> 00:18:03,870 WOMAN #2: Playmates can be really wild, 415 00:18:03,910 --> 00:18:05,450 but I think she just got a little too wild. 416 00:18:05,450 --> 00:18:08,450 Not to say that we’re not here to have fun. 417 00:18:08,540 --> 00:18:12,120 We just drank, and I just got on a table and danced. 418 00:18:12,130 --> 00:18:14,800 I know I wasn’t the only one, but they cut it 419 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,470 to make me look like I was the only one. 420 00:18:17,550 --> 00:18:19,060 But your first night here, 421 00:18:19,090 --> 00:18:20,590 you don’t wanna get trashed and wasted, 422 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,310 and we’re all here, like, on business. 423 00:18:22,390 --> 00:18:24,560 It’s really important that we do well and we look well, 424 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,480 and you don’t wanna do anything to jeopardize that. 425 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,140 The way I saw it is we were filming for "Playboy." 426 00:18:30,230 --> 00:18:33,900 We were con--We were competing for centerfold, 427 00:18:33,900 --> 00:18:37,150 not for Catholic Schoolgirl of the Month. 428 00:18:37,150 --> 00:18:39,570 You know, they wanted fun and wild. 429 00:18:39,610 --> 00:18:42,740 That’s the bunny. That’s the--the whole logo. 430 00:18:42,780 --> 00:18:46,160 A bunny is fun, and they have a lot of sex. 431 00:18:48,410 --> 00:18:53,790 When I made the show, it was definitely a dream come true. 432 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,670 This could be something that would-- 433 00:18:56,670 --> 00:18:58,170 really would change my life, 434 00:18:58,260 --> 00:19:01,340 and I don’t mean in acting or, you know, 435 00:19:01,340 --> 00:19:07,680 what I can get away from all the things at home. 436 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,010 You know, I had a chaotic childhood. 437 00:19:12,980 --> 00:19:14,690 Um... 438 00:19:14,690 --> 00:19:17,940 Well, yeah, I mean, my mom’s [bleep] 439 00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:21,950 snuck in my room at night, so, you know, there was that. 440 00:19:21,990 --> 00:19:25,500 Mm. 441 00:19:25,530 --> 00:19:27,700 Yeah. Yeah. 442 00:19:31,540 --> 00:19:37,880 Once my dad found out that I’d been molested... 443 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,960 the court did not... 444 00:19:41,010 --> 00:19:44,060 they--they didn’t charge him the way that they should 445 00:19:44,140 --> 00:19:47,310 because I’d been running away, but I’d been running away 446 00:19:47,350 --> 00:19:49,900 because I’d been-- being molested. 447 00:19:49,980 --> 00:19:54,190 And that definitely sticks with, you know, 448 00:19:54,230 --> 00:19:56,820 in probably a lot of the choices that I made. 449 00:19:59,490 --> 00:20:00,990 So, I did not become, like, 450 00:20:01,030 --> 00:20:03,830 the bad girl of the show on purpose. 451 00:20:03,860 --> 00:20:06,990 I felt free, like... [laughs] I was across the country. 452 00:20:07,030 --> 00:20:09,240 For once, I’m doing something for me, 453 00:20:09,330 --> 00:20:11,590 and I’m far away from home. 454 00:20:11,660 --> 00:20:14,240 You don’t like it? Kiss my ass. Just kidding. 455 00:20:14,250 --> 00:20:15,210 [laughs] 456 00:20:15,250 --> 00:20:17,000 I just... 457 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:22,090 probably hadn’t hit a wild phase yet in my life. 458 00:20:22,170 --> 00:20:26,670 I struggled from the time that I literally landed at LAX 459 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,090 and felt so out of place. 460 00:20:30,100 --> 00:20:32,270 I just wanted to tell you you’re all welcome. 461 00:20:32,270 --> 00:20:33,900 I know some of you have been going through 462 00:20:33,940 --> 00:20:36,360 a little emotional thing related to being away from home. 463 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,070 And any of you who are having any kind of mixed emotions... 464 00:20:41,070 --> 00:20:42,950 -...don’t have. -[laughter] 465 00:20:43,030 --> 00:20:44,740 It’s gonna be a grand adventure 466 00:20:44,780 --> 00:20:46,740 and something you’re never gonna forget. 467 00:20:46,780 --> 00:20:48,450 It was probably 468 00:20:48,530 --> 00:20:51,780 about 24 hours of being there and then seeing the other girls 469 00:20:51,870 --> 00:20:54,530 and seeing kinda how the competition was going, 470 00:20:54,540 --> 00:20:56,460 and we hadn’t shot any nudes yet. 471 00:20:56,460 --> 00:20:58,290 I knew it was coming. 472 00:20:58,290 --> 00:21:00,080 I’m sure that the anticipation of that 473 00:21:00,130 --> 00:21:02,300 made it a hundred times worse. 474 00:21:02,380 --> 00:21:05,090 -What do you think it is? -I don’t know. 475 00:21:05,130 --> 00:21:06,630 What is it? Is it the nudity that bothers you, 476 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,600 or is it being a-- -Obviously, I’ve never shot 477 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,140 a nide before, and I think that. 478 00:21:10,140 --> 00:21:12,650 -You’ve never shot modeling? -No, I never shot any nudes. 479 00:21:12,730 --> 00:21:15,230 I don’t know. I just don’t feel like it’s me. 480 00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:17,070 I wanna go home. I’m out of my element. 481 00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:19,140 I’m out of my comfort zone. 482 00:21:19,230 --> 00:21:22,600 [line rings] 483 00:21:22,650 --> 00:21:24,060 -WOMAN: Hello? -Hi. 484 00:21:24,110 --> 00:21:25,610 -Hi. -I think I’m gonna come home. 485 00:21:25,650 --> 00:21:27,730 -Why? -It’s just not me. I mean, 486 00:21:27,740 --> 00:21:30,330 this is--honestly, I mean, it’s how I feel. It’s not me. 487 00:21:30,330 --> 00:21:33,250 Well, Carmella, everybody has discomfort the first time aroun 488 00:21:33,290 --> 00:21:35,500 when they’re doing things, but, you know, you-- 489 00:21:35,500 --> 00:21:38,170 I just feel that it’s not me, though. I’m more of, like-- 490 00:21:38,170 --> 00:21:40,500 like, a modest person that wants to do, like, 491 00:21:40,500 --> 00:21:41,960 like, a--a commercial or something like that. 492 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,790 It’s just I don’t want to do it, 493 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,760 and then be like, well, I wasn’t comfortable doing it, 494 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,420 and now I’m still not comfortable doing it. 495 00:21:47,470 --> 00:21:49,850 But, Carmella, the thing is, all that you’ve done 496 00:21:49,850 --> 00:21:51,510 is make the trip out there. 497 00:21:51,510 --> 00:21:54,640 Have you gone through any of the motions yet? 498 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,180 No, you haven’t, 499 00:21:56,270 --> 00:21:58,190 so the accomplishment that you’re telling me 500 00:21:58,190 --> 00:21:59,690 you’re glad that you went, 501 00:21:59,690 --> 00:22:02,360 what, that you got on a plane and went to L.A.? 502 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:03,850 CARMELLA: Well, I’m not-- 503 00:22:03,940 --> 00:22:05,520 I’m definitely not gonna reconsider. Like, I’m... 504 00:22:05,610 --> 00:22:07,110 I feel pretty strongly about it 505 00:22:10,030 --> 00:22:11,650 -Okay. [sighs] -I hope you’re-- 506 00:22:11,700 --> 00:22:12,860 You sure you don’t wanna change your mind? 507 00:22:12,870 --> 00:22:14,960 -I really don’t. -Well, just call me 508 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,500 when you get there. -Okay. 509 00:22:16,540 --> 00:22:18,880 -Love you. -All right, bye-bye. 510 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,510 [hangs up receiver] 511 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,220 Um...sad. It makes me feel sad. 512 00:22:25,300 --> 00:22:31,180 I had a total freak-out moment, and I probably, 513 00:22:31,220 --> 00:22:33,890 as a 19-year-old, needed the support, 514 00:22:33,970 --> 00:22:36,550 needed the support that it was okay to come home 515 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,560 and that it was okay that I’m not ready. 516 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:44,560 So, yeah, it’s emotional. It’s hard. It’s hard. 517 00:22:44,570 --> 00:22:48,740 I felt like I disappointed my mom. 518 00:23:00,500 --> 00:23:03,090 Even though this was a reality show, 519 00:23:03,090 --> 00:23:04,880 you weren’t voting at home. 520 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,420 It was Hef. It was Hef and Hef’s team, 521 00:23:06,420 --> 00:23:09,040 and, really, mostly Hef that was making 522 00:23:09,090 --> 00:23:11,840 the deciding factors as to who would make it to the next round. 523 00:23:11,890 --> 00:23:14,890 Half these girls, at minimum, are good candidates for... 524 00:23:14,930 --> 00:23:16,180 -WOMAN: Yep. -MAN: Mm-hmm, yeah. 525 00:23:16,180 --> 00:23:17,430 -...for Playmates... -MAN: Yes, we all agree. 526 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:18,860 ...you know, which puts us in a very nice place. 527 00:23:18,890 --> 00:23:22,430 Once we were at six contestants, 528 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,450 we all did the fully nude photo shoot. 529 00:23:28,940 --> 00:23:32,610 The fully nude photo shoot upped everything. 530 00:23:32,620 --> 00:23:35,580 It upped the ante, it upped the drama, 531 00:23:35,620 --> 00:23:40,290 it upped the competition, and a lot of the tension, 532 00:23:40,290 --> 00:23:42,960 just because everything got more real. 533 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,630 Posing naked for the first time was terrifying. 534 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,550 So, you walk in on set. There’s lights everywhere. 535 00:23:51,590 --> 00:23:54,800 I was shaking on my heels, just... 536 00:23:54,890 --> 00:23:56,890 My eyes just kind of looked... 537 00:23:56,930 --> 00:23:58,970 "Turn your hip this way. Turn that way. 538 00:23:58,970 --> 00:24:00,430 I need to put light on this angle. 539 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,230 I need to fix this. I need to fix that." 540 00:24:05,150 --> 00:24:06,450 In a way, you are the product. 541 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,910 I feel like you weren’t even seen necessarily 542 00:24:11,950 --> 00:24:14,160 as a person when you were shooting. 543 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,750 It was almost like a mannequin. 544 00:24:17,790 --> 00:24:20,580 I was very insecure about my body. 545 00:24:20,620 --> 00:24:22,780 Even though I was a contestant on this show, 546 00:24:22,830 --> 00:24:26,330 my body image was a big issue for me. 547 00:24:26,340 --> 00:24:28,300 To pose naked, 548 00:24:28,340 --> 00:24:30,840 it was definitely something inside of me 549 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,750 that I had to really overcome 550 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,300 because it was probably my biggest issue with myself. 551 00:24:38,140 --> 00:24:40,020 When I shot my fully nude shoot, 552 00:24:40,100 --> 00:24:42,180 I had shot before for "Playboy," 553 00:24:42,180 --> 00:24:45,350 but not on that scale and not at such a big studio 554 00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:49,940 that so many amazing women have shot before me. 555 00:24:52,530 --> 00:24:56,370 [sighs] You know, if I had to be honest, 556 00:24:56,450 --> 00:24:58,830 I felt they already knew who they were gonna pick, 557 00:24:58,870 --> 00:25:01,460 so I felt mine was a little rushed. 558 00:25:02,830 --> 00:25:06,710 After we filmed the nude photo shoot, 559 00:25:06,790 --> 00:25:10,370 they cut three girls and left three finalists. 560 00:25:10,380 --> 00:25:12,550 Today’s the day where they have to pick three 561 00:25:12,630 --> 00:25:14,710 to move on to shoot their "Playboy" centerfold. 562 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,680 Christina. 563 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,350 Playmate candidate number two is Lauren. 564 00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:24,560 And our final Playmate candidate is Shallan. 565 00:25:27,690 --> 00:25:28,820 I never thought I’d win. 566 00:25:28,860 --> 00:25:30,570 I never thought I was good enough. 567 00:25:30,650 --> 00:25:34,200 It hurt my feelings so bad because 568 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,370 that dream of being a centerfold was over. 569 00:25:37,410 --> 00:25:39,160 [crying] I love you all. Y’all... 570 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,870 [door creaks] 571 00:25:40,910 --> 00:25:42,580 Maybe that’s why I had the tears, 572 00:25:42,580 --> 00:25:46,250 because I just didn’t wanna go home. 573 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,500 So, the final challenge for the three of us left 574 00:25:50,540 --> 00:25:52,040 was a centerfold shoot. 575 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,100 To shoot the actual centerfold that comes 576 00:25:56,180 --> 00:25:57,930 in and out of the magazine. 577 00:25:58,010 --> 00:26:00,520 It’s "Playboy." It’s like the number-one selling magazine 578 00:26:00,550 --> 00:26:02,260 in the world, and these are the real shots 579 00:26:02,260 --> 00:26:05,390 that will go in the magazine, you know, if they’re chosen. 580 00:26:05,430 --> 00:26:08,430 I was very concerned about being fully nude. 581 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,940 I didn’t want to show my body, um, but I was there competing, 582 00:26:11,940 --> 00:26:15,400 so my competitive nature kicked in. 583 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,610 Then I wanted to win. 584 00:26:20,780 --> 00:26:22,700 I-I-I never thought I could have photos 585 00:26:22,700 --> 00:26:24,110 that looked quite so beautiful. 586 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,710 So, we did our centerfold shoot. 587 00:26:30,750 --> 00:26:32,250 The three of us then just went back to the house 588 00:26:32,290 --> 00:26:34,040 and waited for Hef to look at the centerfolds 589 00:26:34,090 --> 00:26:37,300 and for them to decide the winner of the show. 590 00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:41,600 What I like most about Shallan, is, uh, is the face. 591 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,140 Lauren--you cannot beat that schoolgirl fantasy. 592 00:26:46,140 --> 00:26:48,470 I think Shallan makes the biggest impression in person. 593 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,600 Lauren is the most photogenic, 594 00:26:51,650 --> 00:26:53,320 but I am going to go with... 595 00:26:55,230 --> 00:26:57,230 Then they sat the three of us down 596 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,820 on a couch in the living room. 597 00:26:58,820 --> 00:27:00,480 I have three envelopes here. 598 00:27:00,490 --> 00:27:05,660 Inside the envelope contains an invitation 599 00:27:05,660 --> 00:27:08,780 to become a "Playboy" Playmate. 600 00:27:08,830 --> 00:27:10,490 You come this far. 601 00:27:10,580 --> 00:27:12,660 I mean, once we’re there, I mean, we all wanted to win. 602 00:27:12,670 --> 00:27:15,300 You realized, wow, I might-- I might actually do this. 603 00:27:19,510 --> 00:27:21,180 When I opened the envelope 604 00:27:21,260 --> 00:27:23,810 and saw that it said, "Congratulations," 605 00:27:23,850 --> 00:27:26,350 you know, I was happy that I-I had come all this way 606 00:27:26,430 --> 00:27:27,930 and that it was worth it. 607 00:27:27,980 --> 00:27:29,520 I think if I hadn’t won, 608 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,970 maybe it might not have made me feel more confident 609 00:27:33,020 --> 00:27:34,520 and a-a stronger person. 610 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,810 Even with all these body image issues, 611 00:27:37,860 --> 00:27:39,450 it made me feel something 612 00:27:39,490 --> 00:27:42,040 that I didn’t know I felt that I had inside. 613 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,620 Lauren was announced, and Christina and I-- 614 00:27:48,620 --> 00:27:50,370 we were at the hotel with a tail-- 615 00:27:50,460 --> 00:27:51,710 our tails between our legs, 616 00:27:51,710 --> 00:27:53,800 waiting to go home in the morning. 617 00:27:53,830 --> 00:27:57,210 And we got a phone call, and it was Hef asking us, 618 00:27:57,210 --> 00:27:59,710 how would we like to be Playmates, too? 619 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,510 Yeah, it was pretty intense. We were both really excited. 620 00:28:01,550 --> 00:28:03,470 Like, really excited. 621 00:28:03,510 --> 00:28:05,340 You know, I stayed the winner of the show, 622 00:28:05,390 --> 00:28:07,060 and that’s what mattered to me. 623 00:28:07,140 --> 00:28:10,230 So, I was happy when Christina and Shallan became Playmates. 624 00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:12,070 It’s sad that the experience is over, 625 00:28:12,140 --> 00:28:14,810 but I’m glad I did it, and I’m glad I won. [laughs] 626 00:28:14,860 --> 00:28:16,900 So, thank you. 627 00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:21,900 I watched the show, yes, when it came on. 628 00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:24,070 I had a--we had a house party at my mom’s house. 629 00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:25,570 We had lots of people over, 630 00:28:25,660 --> 00:28:27,500 and every-- we all watched it, yes. 631 00:28:30,750 --> 00:28:33,580 Well, they didn’t show the-- the naked parts on national TV, 632 00:28:33,580 --> 00:28:35,250 so that was-- they didn’t show those parts, 633 00:28:35,330 --> 00:28:36,580 or they blurted out. 634 00:28:36,590 --> 00:28:38,090 ANNOUNCER: Wanna find the perfect Playmate 635 00:28:38,170 --> 00:28:39,930 Take a behind-the-scenes look 636 00:28:40,010 --> 00:28:43,340 at "Girl Next Door: The Search for a Playboy Centerfold." 637 00:28:43,340 --> 00:28:46,590 When the women came to the show, obviously, they knew 638 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,180 they were signing up for the Fox television show. 639 00:28:50,180 --> 00:28:52,680 And in the paperwork that they signed, ultimately, you know, 640 00:28:52,730 --> 00:28:56,440 Playboy was going to do their version of the show itself. 641 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,200 "Who Wants to Be a Playboy Centerfold?" 642 00:28:59,230 --> 00:29:02,770 My job was to, um, edit the show for the Fox TV show, 643 00:29:02,860 --> 00:29:05,780 and for the uncensored version, 644 00:29:05,780 --> 00:29:07,940 Playboy had a team that was gonna come in and make 645 00:29:07,950 --> 00:29:09,710 the uncensored version. 646 00:29:09,740 --> 00:29:14,370 And so they all fully understood that going into it. 647 00:29:14,410 --> 00:29:16,370 Once the show aired, it--it was hard for me. 648 00:29:16,420 --> 00:29:20,470 When I first saw the unedited version, 649 00:29:20,550 --> 00:29:21,630 it was shocking. 650 00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:28,810 Everything that I did, it was on the unedited version. 651 00:29:28,890 --> 00:29:32,230 This was obviously before social media, 652 00:29:32,270 --> 00:29:34,980 but there were still blogs. 653 00:29:37,150 --> 00:29:38,980 There was nothing positive. 654 00:29:38,980 --> 00:29:41,480 Went from girl to girl to girl. 655 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,730 They broke us all down. 656 00:29:42,780 --> 00:29:45,150 Everything bad about us. 657 00:29:45,150 --> 00:29:50,150 I think that they fed off of what they saw on the show. 658 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,660 It was okay for the men on the show. 659 00:29:52,660 --> 00:29:54,740 They were breaking us down. 660 00:29:54,790 --> 00:29:56,670 -Jill. -This girl’s face is fantastic, 661 00:29:56,750 --> 00:29:58,960 but there’s some body problems. 662 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,120 The only problem that I have with her physically 663 00:30:00,170 --> 00:30:01,340 is the breasts. 664 00:30:01,340 --> 00:30:03,420 She’s a little long in the torso. 665 00:30:03,420 --> 00:30:05,790 She’s a little thick in the body. 666 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,130 Which led to people online 667 00:30:09,180 --> 00:30:10,930 feeling that they could do the same. 668 00:30:15,180 --> 00:30:17,310 But they’re kind of nastier 669 00:30:17,350 --> 00:30:20,600 ’cause there’s nobody to filter them, you know, 670 00:30:20,650 --> 00:30:22,200 or edit them. 671 00:30:22,270 --> 00:30:26,270 The very first article I read, he was quoting me as saying, 672 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,030 "I’d never seen a ’Playboy’ before." 673 00:30:29,030 --> 00:30:31,950 And his--and then he said, "Yeah, right. 674 00:30:31,990 --> 00:30:34,820 She looks like the town’s teeter-totter." 675 00:30:34,870 --> 00:30:39,340 And I was, like, on the floor, bawling. It, like, destroyed me. 676 00:30:39,370 --> 00:30:47,210 [crying] 677 00:30:47,300 --> 00:30:49,560 Why would I cry now? 678 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,400 Which is... [exhales deeply] 679 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,690 of course, one of the reasons why even now I’m like, oh, God. 680 00:30:59,730 --> 00:31:01,900 [cries] 681 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,660 Mm. 682 00:31:07,570 --> 00:31:10,700 [laughs] I don’t know, but everyone’s had a go, 683 00:31:10,740 --> 00:31:15,080 Just a troll. But being 20, it hit deep. 684 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,500 So, then I didn’t look at anything else. 685 00:31:17,540 --> 00:31:20,710 My mom’s like, "Well... [sighs] you picked this world. 686 00:31:20,750 --> 00:31:23,050 You picked this life. 687 00:31:23,090 --> 00:31:24,550 So, you’re either gonna have to hide away from everything 688 00:31:24,590 --> 00:31:26,180 or get the toughest skin 689 00:31:26,210 --> 00:31:28,750 and know that most people aren’t gonna agree with you, 690 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,930 and most people won’t have nice things to say." 691 00:31:32,930 --> 00:31:34,600 That was it. 692 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,060 The three girls that won, their life changed. 693 00:31:44,110 --> 00:31:47,610 You know, so they--they went on tour. You know what I mean? 694 00:31:47,610 --> 00:31:51,580 Like, they didn’t really have to go back to real life. 695 00:31:51,610 --> 00:31:53,610 You know, I’m from a smaller town. 696 00:31:53,620 --> 00:31:56,710 I mean, I’m outside of Atlanta, you know? 697 00:31:56,740 --> 00:31:58,110 Lived there my whole life, 698 00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,450 so, I mean, everyone knew who I was. 699 00:31:59,450 --> 00:32:03,200 [sighs] I was an easy target. 700 00:32:06,290 --> 00:32:09,130 After the show, the jealousy and the judgment 701 00:32:09,210 --> 00:32:12,630 in my small town, it really brought me down. 702 00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:15,880 I guess people just wanted to come after me. 703 00:32:15,930 --> 00:32:17,480 At the time of filming, 704 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,940 I was a single mother, and my daughter was 2. 705 00:32:19,980 --> 00:32:22,100 So, a group of girls from my small town 706 00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:27,980 started attacking me using CPS. 707 00:32:27,980 --> 00:32:29,940 That’s Child Protective Services. 708 00:32:29,990 --> 00:32:34,120 They contacted them, and they told them lies, 709 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,990 and they used "Playboy," you know, 710 00:32:37,990 --> 00:32:41,240 as the--the main attack. 711 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,760 When you hear "Playboy" and nudity and a little girl, 712 00:32:47,790 --> 00:32:50,500 they assume that you’re a bad mother 713 00:32:50,590 --> 00:32:52,470 and that you’re a slut. 714 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,100 They removed my daughter... 715 00:32:58,140 --> 00:33:00,480 from my house. 716 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,020 [voice breaking] Yeah, it was really tough. 717 00:33:03,020 --> 00:33:06,020 And I demanded a meeting, 718 00:33:06,020 --> 00:33:09,100 and I said, you know, "I want to know, like, what are you doing? 719 00:33:09,150 --> 00:33:10,780 Like, why are you coming after me? 720 00:33:10,820 --> 00:33:12,370 What could I have done? 721 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,190 I want to see what you have on me. 722 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,700 I want to see this file that is tearing a family apart." 723 00:33:18,700 --> 00:33:20,610 And they opened it up, 724 00:33:20,660 --> 00:33:23,450 and it was all... 725 00:33:23,500 --> 00:33:24,630 "Playboy" pictures. 726 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:31,840 I had to spend the next year fighting to keep my daughter. 727 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,680 I had to hire two attorneys. I had to take drug tests. 728 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,980 I had to take hair follicle tests. 729 00:33:39,010 --> 00:33:44,680 I-I-I couldn’t even tell you how hard that time was, 730 00:33:44,730 --> 00:33:48,060 and it broke me, you know? 731 00:33:48,060 --> 00:33:50,560 It--It--It broke me. 732 00:33:50,570 --> 00:33:53,900 I had to climb out of many of dark times. 733 00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:56,980 But the vindication came when the judge stood up 734 00:33:57,030 --> 00:34:00,650 and said, "This woman has done nothing wrong. 735 00:34:00,700 --> 00:34:04,410 You guys have come after her. She has done nothing. 736 00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:07,380 She has done everything and more that you have asked. 737 00:34:07,420 --> 00:34:09,510 Today, this is--ends." 738 00:34:09,540 --> 00:34:11,580 Once the fight was over, 739 00:34:11,590 --> 00:34:14,510 I moved and I left the state, and I never went back. 740 00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:17,090 I never wanted my daughter 741 00:34:17,090 --> 00:34:20,550 to endure the judgment that I had to endure. 742 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,230 And I never wanted to raise another child 743 00:34:23,270 --> 00:34:29,230 in that town, in that mindset, in that environment. 744 00:34:33,940 --> 00:34:37,440 Y-Yes, does she know? Yeah. Yeah. She does. 745 00:34:37,530 --> 00:34:42,370 Does she resent me some? Yeah, she does. 746 00:34:42,410 --> 00:34:45,920 I mean, you know, even though everything we’ve talked about, 747 00:34:45,950 --> 00:34:49,120 you know, I could not help that people did what they did, 748 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,960 but...she resents it, me. 749 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,390 Mm-hmm. 750 00:35:05,770 --> 00:35:08,400 [chuckles] Yeah. It sucks. 751 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,400 It’s the textbook of a blessing and a curse. 752 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,980 People are, you know, it-- 753 00:35:15,980 --> 00:35:19,650 People are--People are terrible. 754 00:35:25,450 --> 00:35:26,820 [cries] 755 00:35:28,410 --> 00:35:30,120 It’s not... [chuckles] 756 00:35:30,170 --> 00:35:33,460 It’s like, just I’m sorry. 757 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,090 [sniffles] 758 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,840 Why do we judge? 759 00:35:47,930 --> 00:35:49,760 Why don’t we just tell every woman, 760 00:35:49,810 --> 00:35:52,110 like, "you’re beautiful" and be happy for them 761 00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:53,690 and genuinely happy, 762 00:35:53,690 --> 00:35:56,700 and if you’re not, just-- just go your own way? 763 00:35:56,780 --> 00:35:58,280 I don’t know, 764 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,370 and I think Playboy definitely brings out that question. 765 00:36:02,450 --> 00:36:04,700 As soon as someone finds out that I have been in "Playboy," 766 00:36:04,700 --> 00:36:06,540 there’s an immediate judgment there. 767 00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:10,790 People are uncomfortable with nudity, you know, 768 00:36:10,830 --> 00:36:12,490 and it’s--it’s--that’s why 769 00:36:12,540 --> 00:36:13,830 they’re uncomfortable with "Playboy." 770 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,840 They think because I showed my body, 771 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,130 that means I act a certain way. 772 00:36:18,170 --> 00:36:20,330 You know? I showed my body. 773 00:36:20,380 --> 00:36:22,710 But meanwhile, I’m in college studying 774 00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:24,390 to be a veterinarian, a senior. 775 00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:27,810 You know, I--now I have children. I am a wife. 776 00:36:27,850 --> 00:36:30,730 Yes, I showed my body, too, at one point, but there--it’s-- 777 00:36:30,730 --> 00:36:32,570 the two--it’s not related. 778 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,350 You know, you posed for "Playboy," showed your body, 779 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,240 but then there’s also a whole nother human being behind that. 780 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,160 JILL: Once I posed for "Playboy" and I was on the show, 781 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,410 I was no longer Jill Scott. 782 00:36:44,490 --> 00:36:48,580 I was now Jill that posed naked. 783 00:36:48,660 --> 00:36:50,580 It’s so wrong. 784 00:36:52,750 --> 00:36:55,420 Should we really be able to offer 785 00:36:55,420 --> 00:36:59,180 this much of an opinion on someone else’s life? 786 00:36:59,210 --> 00:37:02,250 Like, this is an inside job. Like, at a certain point, 787 00:37:02,340 --> 00:37:05,670 we need to start taking a look at what’s in here. 788 00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:08,100 Like, maybe we should learn to criticize ourselves 789 00:37:08,180 --> 00:37:11,900 a little more and less with someone else. 790 00:37:22,610 --> 00:37:24,230 LAUREN: I mean, I credit Hef and Playboy absolutely 791 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,950 for changing my image of myself for the better. 792 00:37:28,950 --> 00:37:31,740 I mean, ’cause it has stayed with me ever since then. 793 00:37:31,790 --> 00:37:34,960 WOMAN: So, like, are you missing, like, school and work 794 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,590 and all that stuff right now? 795 00:37:36,620 --> 00:37:38,540 Oh, yeah, I’m a senior and I’m in veterinary medicine, 796 00:37:38,540 --> 00:37:39,870 and I’m missing two weeks of school, 797 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:41,930 which was really hard. 798 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,460 My organic chemistry professor- 799 00:37:43,550 --> 00:37:44,970 he told me he was gonna fail me. I said... 800 00:37:45,050 --> 00:37:46,640 -Shut up. -..."All right, bye." 801 00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:50,270 Yes, and he did fail me. 802 00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:53,140 Because I failed that class, I did not go back to school. 803 00:37:55,980 --> 00:37:57,650 I just kind of saw myself, 804 00:37:57,730 --> 00:37:59,740 my life going in a different direction 805 00:37:59,770 --> 00:38:01,060 than what it was. 806 00:38:01,110 --> 00:38:04,070 My dream was to--I wanted-- I loved animals. 807 00:38:04,110 --> 00:38:06,610 I wanted to take care of animals, help animals. 808 00:38:06,650 --> 00:38:08,610 And so, my parents and my family actually 809 00:38:08,660 --> 00:38:11,750 helped me realize that being in the public eye, 810 00:38:11,790 --> 00:38:13,790 I could help animals even more. 811 00:38:13,830 --> 00:38:16,920 When I became a Playmate, PETA asked what I could do, 812 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,630 and so I used to go to Capitol Hill 813 00:38:18,670 --> 00:38:21,670 in a lettuce bikini and pass out 814 00:38:21,750 --> 00:38:24,580 veggie dogs to all the congresspeople. 815 00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:25,840 It was amazing. 816 00:38:25,970 --> 00:38:28,600 I worked with Playboy until I was-- 817 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,520 my last job, I was pregnant with my first son, 818 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,520 so, um, until 2012. 819 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,320 I got married, and, um, I stopped working for Playboy 820 00:38:38,350 --> 00:38:40,100 and just, uh, had children. 821 00:38:40,150 --> 00:38:42,360 I have a 10-year-old son and a 6-year-old son, 822 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,860 and I take care of them every day. 823 00:38:47,820 --> 00:38:49,980 After I decided to leave the show, 824 00:38:50,030 --> 00:38:52,700 when I got home, I felt sad. 825 00:38:52,780 --> 00:38:55,030 There’s a part of me that wished 826 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,370 that I would have stayed 827 00:38:57,370 --> 00:39:01,660 and that I could have overcome that anxiety. 828 00:39:01,710 --> 00:39:03,720 So, I wrote Hef a letter 829 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,840 letting him know that I was regretful, 830 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,170 and he later asked me if I would test to be a Playmate. 831 00:39:09,220 --> 00:39:13,850 And I got to a point where I felt proud 832 00:39:13,890 --> 00:39:17,190 to have the opportunity to be a "Playboy" Playmate. 833 00:39:19,690 --> 00:39:22,570 I was April 2003 centerfold 834 00:39:22,650 --> 00:39:25,820 and Playmate of the Year 2004. 835 00:39:25,860 --> 00:39:29,240 Posing nude is liberating. 836 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,570 I did it then, and I would do it now. 837 00:39:31,570 --> 00:39:36,740 It is empowering. You’re making a choice for you, 838 00:39:36,830 --> 00:39:40,420 and...I felt good about it. 839 00:39:40,420 --> 00:39:43,210 I did Playboy for a reason. 840 00:39:43,250 --> 00:39:44,540 It was a platform. 841 00:39:44,540 --> 00:39:47,420 I utilized it to get every job that I could, 842 00:39:47,420 --> 00:39:51,670 and that’s why I feel like it’s easy for people to look back 843 00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:54,560 and rake everyone over the coals. 844 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,770 Uh, my experience was different. 845 00:39:56,850 --> 00:40:00,860 I met my husband at the time through Playboy, 846 00:40:00,890 --> 00:40:03,930 which was another great gift. 847 00:40:04,020 --> 00:40:08,400 And most important, I had four amazing, beautiful children. 848 00:40:10,740 --> 00:40:12,910 Playboy was not my dream, 849 00:40:12,950 --> 00:40:14,780 but falling into it so gracefully 850 00:40:14,780 --> 00:40:18,780 has turned it into... my life is a dream. 851 00:40:18,790 --> 00:40:21,040 I really love where I’ve landed, 852 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,120 and I don’t think I would have met my husband 853 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,580 or the friends that I’ve made. 854 00:40:25,630 --> 00:40:27,460 I have been to so many countries. 855 00:40:27,460 --> 00:40:29,290 I don’t think that that would have ever happened 856 00:40:29,380 --> 00:40:30,880 if I had just stayed in Las Vegas 857 00:40:30,970 --> 00:40:33,100 and not been discovered. 858 00:40:33,130 --> 00:40:35,710 I think this world could have potentially 859 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,220 chewed me up and spit me out 860 00:40:37,260 --> 00:40:39,970 if I didn’t get tougher skin and I didn’t get thrown 861 00:40:39,970 --> 00:40:41,800 in a couple different situations 862 00:40:41,810 --> 00:40:43,110 that made me a little more well-rounded. 863 00:40:43,140 --> 00:40:47,810 And I-I love who I am today. 864 00:40:47,820 --> 00:40:49,990 So, today I am married. 865 00:40:50,070 --> 00:40:52,490 I’ve been married for 13 years. I had another child. 866 00:40:52,570 --> 00:40:54,820 He’s 12. 867 00:40:54,820 --> 00:40:57,320 Oh, my gosh, so happy. 868 00:40:57,410 --> 00:41:02,000 After all these years and all these lessons, I’m really happy. 869 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,250 I am at a place in life where I know me. 870 00:41:05,290 --> 00:41:08,960 I love me, and I-I love life. 871 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,460 I’m not gonna shrink. I’m gonna do the opposite, you know? 872 00:41:13,510 --> 00:41:15,930 Honestly, I found my power in Playboy. 873 00:41:15,970 --> 00:41:19,140 You know, I found, like, my power 874 00:41:19,180 --> 00:41:20,510 the way I wanted to be seen. 875 00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:28,270 I remember some of the things from the boardroom 876 00:41:28,310 --> 00:41:29,810 and some of the body comments, 877 00:41:29,860 --> 00:41:33,780 and today that would not be accepted. 878 00:41:33,820 --> 00:41:36,870 Not only do I not think the show would be able to be made today, 879 00:41:36,950 --> 00:41:41,120 I think they would cancel everyone that was part of it. 880 00:41:44,210 --> 00:41:45,500 DE OLVEIRA: There’s a reason why 881 00:41:45,540 --> 00:41:48,380 "Playboy" Magazine is now extinct, 882 00:41:48,460 --> 00:41:49,720 And what is the next iteration? 883 00:41:49,790 --> 00:41:51,170 I don’t think anybody really knows, 884 00:41:51,210 --> 00:41:55,340 um, but the business of exploitation 885 00:41:55,380 --> 00:41:56,670 is not going away. 886 00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:59,020 Um, it’s just done in a different form. 887 00:41:59,050 --> 00:42:01,380 Do you believe there was any time 888 00:42:01,470 --> 00:42:03,550 that you might have exploited women? 889 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,850 Never. Never, and I think you-- you could talk to the women 890 00:42:06,890 --> 00:42:08,350 who have appeared in the magazine, 891 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,400 and I think you would hear rather clearly that’s the case. 892 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,240 You know, they say, "Oh, you’re being exploited." 893 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,200 I’m like, I’m not being exploited 894 00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:17,490 if Hugh Hefner thinks I’m attractive enough 895 00:42:17,530 --> 00:42:20,070 to put me in his magazine, and I get paid. It’s a job. 896 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,580 That’s something that I never understood of how people judge. 897 00:42:23,660 --> 00:42:26,240 We’re choosing to do it. We wanna do it. 898 00:42:26,250 --> 00:42:28,590 You know, we find it beautiful. We find it sexy. 899 00:42:28,670 --> 00:42:30,920 We find it attractive. 900 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,510 Why is that exploitation? 901 00:42:38,590 --> 00:42:40,550 [scoffs] I don’t know, right? 902 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,060 I posed nude and felt comfortable with it, 903 00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:46,270 but people do. They lose their mind. 904 00:42:46,350 --> 00:42:48,430 It is wild. 905 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,610 There’s nothing wrong with following a dream. 906 00:42:51,610 --> 00:42:54,280 There’s nothing wrong with being naked. 907 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,070 I just think it’s a way to shame women, you know? 908 00:42:57,110 --> 00:43:00,360 But that’s their problem, not mine. 71998

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