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[man] We're up in Aspen.
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We're scheduled for a preliminary hearing.
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I think Bundy was the only case
on the�criminal docket that morning.
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I thought the court proceedings
were going very well.
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We took the morning recess as always.
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So we went our separate directions.
I was out in the hallway
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smoking a cigarette,
talking to one�of the deputies...
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and Ted was in the back of the courtroom,
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where the law library is.
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He was doing research.
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I was sitting out in the hallway,
having a cigarette,
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when the Sheriff's deputy came along
and asked if I knew where Bundy was.
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My approach to things like that
is usually pretty whimsical,
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and I thought that was funny.
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And I said, "It's not really my turn
to watch him."
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And the next thing I know,
everybody's running into the courthouse.
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Somebody from the first floor came up
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and said somebody jumped out
of the second floor window.
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Before anybody knew, he was gone.
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And, uh, that was it
for the court proceedings for the day.
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[theme song playing]
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[opening song playing]
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Good evening. Convicted Utah kidnapper
Theodore Bundy�has escaped.
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Escaped from an Aspen,
Colorado courtroom
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and remains, at this�hour,
the subject of a manhunt.
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What happened was seemingly inane
but it's what took place.
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He jumped out of the courthouse
and he was gone.
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[tires screech]
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And the next thing I know,
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the Sheriffs were running out
of the courthouse and down�the street.
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I mean, they took off trying to find him.
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It-- It was kind of a surreal experience.
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[Lucas] I was there in Aspen
after his escape from the courthouse.
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Obviously, they weren't paying attention
to how significant this serial killer�was.
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That was irresponsible.
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It's one of those things
that shouldn't have�happened.
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[reporter] Guards waited outside the room
but Bundy�was alone inside
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when he decided to open�that window
and jump the 25 feet to the�ground.
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In fact, you can still see
the indentations in the grass here,
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where he landed.
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From here, Theodore Bundy
decided to head for the hills.
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[Leidner]
There was nobody looking after him.
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He wasn't shackled, he wasn't chained,
he wasn't handcuffed.
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They didn't have a waist chain on him
and they kind of let him roam freely
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throughout the, uh-- the courtroom.
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It was inconceivable to me
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that you would�have somebody
accused of first-degree�murder,
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who by that time
was thought to be involved
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in a series of murders
throughout the West,
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and that your security level
would be so low.
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I really don't know what happened
this morning in terms of the guard.
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Basically, uh, as I understand it,
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the defendant was�in the courtroom
and, uh...
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the guard was at the door
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and the last time�he looked,
the defendant was there,
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and the next he looked, he was gone.
[chuckles]
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So he didn't keep him inside at all times?
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-Apparently not.
-Will he be disciplined for that?
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[chuckles] I assume so.
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[Bundy]
I remember the beautiful, clear morning.
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The mountain top shining
with the first rays of...
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the summer morning's light.
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I remember psyching myself all the way up
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saying to myself again and again,
"You must go.
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You must go, you must go, you must go.
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Don't hesitate, don't stop, don't stop."
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[Leidner] The question is,
does he know where he's�going?
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Does he know anything
about this area?
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There's only two roads out of Aspen.
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How is he going to get out of here?
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[reporter] Roadblocks have been set up
all around Aspen.
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City police and Pitkin County
Sheriff's deputies are checking every car
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leaving this mountain community.
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[reporter #2] So far these roadblocks
have turned up no sign of Ted Bundy,
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but sources report�nine others
have been arrested
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in connection with other cases
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and officers have confiscated
200 pounds�of marijuana.
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[Lucas] It was crazy.
The cops didn't know what was going on.
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We'd go around talking to the police
about the escape,
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"What do you know about it?"
And nothing.
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My photographer and I spent hours
driving up and down in the woods,
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combing the hill trying to--
to locate this idiot.
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[Leidner]
People were showing up on horseback
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with the�bandoleros
strung across their chest, with rifles
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probably half lit,
ready to go out and hunt�Bundy.
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[reporter] The Sheriff's department said
150 men and five bloodhounds
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combed the canyons around Aspen.
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[Lubeck] This was
a catch-me-if-you-can game
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that he was engaged in,
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and he was interested in one thing,
and that is doing�what he wanted.
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[dog sniffing]
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[Bundy] It certainly did cause a furor.
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They didn't know where in the world I was.
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And I was feeling really good.
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I had nobody helping me,
I had no money, I had no nothing.
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[reporter] Using the scent
from a sweater Bundy left�behind,
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dogs did track him to a bridge in town,
then they lost the trail.
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[Bundy]
Just ran right up into the mountains
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and managed to find a cabin.
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[reporter] The search around Aspen,
now in its�third day, is being wound down.
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But the spokesman
for the Pitkin County Sheriff's Department
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says the dragnet will definitely continue.
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[Michaud] For days and days and days,
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he kept the level of interest
and the guessing... uh, going.
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At that point, the FBI entered the case
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because Bundy became an interstate
fugitive fleeing from justice.
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They could throw a lot of bodies
and equipment at the investigation,
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manpower, vehicles.
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But even then, the FBI was not much help.
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They didn't know anything
that the locals�didn't already know.
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[Bundy] If I could've kept on hiking
I would have been long gone
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but a very cold sleet and rain storm
hit me
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and I got very cold
and went into a state of shock.
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Three, four days of high altitude
and cold got to me and my mind got weak.
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I was just totally disoriented.
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It was like an experience
I had never known before.
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That night I went and walked
back into Aspen
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because I was cold and hungry.
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And I just said, "Well,
let's just see what happens."
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And a fluke actually, they stopped me.
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[camera shutters clicking,
reporters shouting indistinctly]
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[reporter]
Streets of Aspen are safe again.
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Suspected multiple murderer
Theodore Bundy
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is back in custody after an absence
of nearly seven days.
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Bundy came here Wednesday after spending
a miserable night in the rain.
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He told officers he broke into this cabin,
where he ate and slept Wednesday night.
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Then last night, Bundy said
he walked�into Aspen,
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took this car which was unlocked
and had the keys in the ignition.
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He was on his way out of town
but for some reason made a U-turn.
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That's when Bundy was apprehended.
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I noted a vehicle driving erratically
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about an eighth of a mile east of Aspen
on highway 82.
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We observed this vehicle
for a matter of seconds,
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and I turned around and pursued it,
contacted it,
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and found Mr. Bundy driving it.
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[woman] Did you recognize him right away?
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It took about two glances.
He was pretty... altered,
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his appearance had been altered
by glasses and, uh...
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a minor growth of beard.
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[reporter] When Ted Bundy emerged
from the courtroom,
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he was barefoot, haggard.
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He limped from the blisters on his feet
and he weighed�25 pounds less
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than he did last Tuesday,
at the time of his escape.
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[Lucas] When he was recaptured in Aspen,
there in the courthouse in the crowd,
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in that famous shot where Bundy is walking
into that crowd of reporters,
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he came past me,
turned to me and said, "Hi, Ward."
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And two or three of the reporters standing
around me said, "Who the hell are you?"
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It was very odd. But he obviously
had been watching�or listening
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paying attention to any time his name
was used on the air, or in print.
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[camera shutter clicks]
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He was a narcissist
along with being a psychopath,
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so I think he watched
every TV newscast�he could.
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I wouldn't be surprised if he saved
newspaper clippings.
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Some people with his mindset do.
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[Bundy] I know
of course the officers believed
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that I would be depressed.
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Dejected as well as...
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in a state of physical exhaustion.
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And that...
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the inevitability of it all would
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shake me and that I was just a...
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a rotten tomato ready to burst.
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And all it would take would be
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this extraordinary circumstance
to open me up.
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But my exhaustion notwithstanding,
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they were barking up the wrong tree.
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[Carlisle]
Once he got caught and he was in jail,
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he called-- He had a credit card
that he�could use.
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And he called and we talked
and talked for about 15 minutes or so.
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-[Bundy] How you doing?
-Doing pretty good, Ted. How you doing?
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[Bundy]
Uh, well, quite well, quite frankly, yeah.
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[stammering] There is still the scars
from the blisters on my feet.
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-I'm sitting here bare footed. [laughs]
-Uh-uh.
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[Bundy]
From running around in the mountains.
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Extraordinary experience.
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-[Carlisle] They treating you pretty good?
-Um...
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They, they have developed
this paranoia about me.
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-Like I am going to escape or something.
-[chuckles]
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I can't imagine
where they are getting that.
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[Bundy laughs]
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-Yes, exactly.
-Uh-uh.
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[Bundy] You know, we haven't really...
[clears throat]
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you know, talked personally, obviously,
since the latter part of January.
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[Carlisle] Yeah, right.
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[Bundy] Well, the impressions of all that
you have been hearing about me
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and you know, the...
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[Carlisle] Okay. How do you mean?
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[Bundy] Well, like, the escape
and everything like that.
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I wonder
what your impression of that was.
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[Carlisle] Uh...
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I had mixed impressions.
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I was wondering
if you were really getting uptight.
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And the pressure looked like it was on.
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In your own mind, what was happening?
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-[Bundy] Well...
-What was the reason for...
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[Bundy] I just got sick and tired
of being locked up, and...
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I had-- Over the months,
I had noticed a number of opportunities
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to just walk right out.
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Just longed for freedom for so long
and now I'm like...
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like I was living my ultimate dream.
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It was just an incredible experience.
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[Carlisle]
It's almost like he's talking to a father
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and saying, you know:
"I almost did a home run".
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You know, in the baseball game.
It was so friendly.
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He was really quite proud of that.
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[Leidner] He talked about how lucky
the people were to catch him,
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and how stupid the people were
who caught him...
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and how...
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intellectually superior he was
to everybody.
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And I thought to myself,
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"Those things may be true
but you're the one in jail,
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and those are the ones
who are on the�outside."
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[reporter] Theodore Bundy left here
in the midst�of a�hearing
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concerning his upcoming murder trial.
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If that's what he hoped to avoid,
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he didn't really accomplish much
by escaping.
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He's back in jail,
that hearing resumes Thursday morning,
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and now Bundy faces new charges...
of escape.
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[Michaud] This is one
of those strange dichotomies with Ted.
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He liked being the center of attention,
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but did not understand
what kind of trouble came with it.
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The better known he was, the more
he put himself under undue risk...
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but Ted did not see it that way.
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[Bundy] This kind of boldness that we see
from time to time from this personality,
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um...
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it's probably just being willing
to take the risk.
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Or perhaps not even seeing risk.
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Just overcome by that boldness and desire
to accomplish a particular thing.
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To understand how he thought,
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you have to be able to project yourself
into a sociopath's brain.
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If you can do that, um...
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more power to you. [chuckles]
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I'm-- It's a point of pride with me
that I can't.
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[Bundy] I think we can say that he--
he felt almost as if he was immune...
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-[Michaud] Mm-hmm.
-...uh...
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from detection,
as if he were in a dimension
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that he just kind of, like,
could walk through doors.
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That he had some supernatural powers.
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That no matter how much he fucked up,
nothing could go wrong.
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[Michaud] December 30th, 1977,
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Ted is in prison waiting for trial
for the murder of Caryn Campbell.
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That evening a guard, as usual,
brought him�his food and left.
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The next morning,
the guard returned to Ted's�cell,
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and found his food uneaten.
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He looked over and Bundy appeared
to be�in his cot, asleep.
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But as he entered the cell
and pulled back�the covers,
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he finds nothings but a pile of books,
where Ted should have been.
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There was no Bundy.
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[indistinct shouting]
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[reporter] New Year's Eve, 1977.
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In the Garfield County Jail,
Bundy walked out.
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[female reporter] Bundy starved down
to less than 140 pounds,
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slipped through a hole in the ceiling
of his cell�and was free again.
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[McChesney]
The second escape, Ted was quite creative.
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Lost some weight,
and hacked his way through the ceiling.
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He managed to climb on some books,
lift himself into the ceiling,
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crawl through the ceiling area,
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into the�apartment of one of the jailers,
which was above his prison cell.
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He took some of the jailer's clothing
and walked out the front door.
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[Keppel] Bundy's second escape
was pretty much of a�nightmare.
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That's the one where he just disappeared
and no one knew where he went.
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[Leidner] Just could not believe it,
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could not believe
that somehow he got out of there.
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That's what really was a scary situation.
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[Lucas] I was so disgusted
with what had gone�on.
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I think it was a travesty.
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The county commissioners of course
are responsible
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ultimately for the safety of�prisoners.
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The safekeeping of prisoners
in a county�facility.
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They were derelict in their duty.
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I can assure you
that if anybody has been�harmed
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by Mr. Bundy's leaving Garfield County
on the first of January,
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that I intend fully to�follow up
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uh, and file charges against people
who were perhaps criminally negligent.
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[Leidner] It just brought to mind
a little kid who's been denied
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candy for however much time,
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and this situation,
278
00:15:51,617 --> 00:15:54,036
it was like Bundy
couldn't control himself.
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He had this opportunity
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and took off.
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[Lucas] He was this vicious killer
who was just a�complete and total con man,
282
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a psychopath.
And he was running around out there.
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People began looking everywhere,
284
00:16:07,007 --> 00:16:09,468
because a serial killer doesn't quit
until he is stopped.
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00:16:13,973 --> 00:16:16,475
[Yocom]
I got a call from the local authorities
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saying that Ted had escaped again.
287
00:16:19,561 --> 00:16:22,523
We were afraid that he might be
coming back to the Salt Lake area
288
00:16:22,606 --> 00:16:24,984
and we certainly didn't want him
back there. [chuckles]
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[woman]
I heard about the escape on the news.
290
00:16:30,322 --> 00:16:33,826
I was concerned with him being loose,
291
00:16:33,909 --> 00:16:37,329
on what was going to happen
to someone else.
292
00:16:37,413 --> 00:16:42,084
Just the magnitude of it
was just very overwhelming and shocking.
293
00:16:42,543 --> 00:16:45,546
Well, I'm concerned that this individual
has been on the street,
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and we of course take
all necessary precautions and, uh...
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with our witnesses that testified
against him in our case here...
296
00:16:52,845 --> 00:16:56,265
and of course will assist any way we can
with Colorado to...
297
00:16:56,682 --> 00:16:58,475
um, see that he's apprehended.
298
00:17:00,728 --> 00:17:03,522
[female reporter] Are you worried
that he might hurt somebody else?
299
00:17:03,981 --> 00:17:05,482
Well, there's always this possibility.
300
00:17:06,859 --> 00:17:11,280
[Keppel] There's law enforcement officers
in Idaho, Colorado, Utah...
301
00:17:11,363 --> 00:17:13,032
all investigating Bundy.
302
00:17:14,283 --> 00:17:17,369
So we contacted everybody
we could think of.
303
00:17:17,786 --> 00:17:21,540
Liz, his friends, his mother.
304
00:17:21,623 --> 00:17:24,543
Basically threatened them all with arrest,
305
00:17:24,626 --> 00:17:27,004
all in an effort to try and get them
306
00:17:27,087 --> 00:17:29,423
to tell us everything they could
about Bundy.
307
00:17:29,506 --> 00:17:31,175
[siren wailing]
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Was he coming this way?
309
00:17:32,843 --> 00:17:34,553
We didn't know if he was or not.
310
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[male reporter]
Assistant US Attorney James McConkey
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approved processing the document,
312
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which brings
the Federal Bureau of Investigation
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into the hunt for Ted Bundy.
314
00:17:46,857 --> 00:17:50,444
[man] Wanted for questioning�in connection
with similar type sexual slayings
315
00:17:50,527 --> 00:17:54,281
throughout the Pacific northwest
and into Utah and Colorado.
316
00:17:54,364 --> 00:17:59,411
A federal warrant was issued on January 5,
1978 at Denver, Colorado,
317
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charging Bundy with unlawful flight
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to avoid prosecution
for the crime of murder.
319
00:18:04,291 --> 00:18:05,918
[Lucas] If Bundy is ever recaptured,
320
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the Colorado prosecution will�continue,
321
00:18:08,253 --> 00:18:10,506
and he could be prosecuted
for one of the Utah murders
322
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before this thing is all over with.
323
00:18:12,466 --> 00:18:17,054
But for the moment, Theodore Bundy
is merely an escaped convicted kidnapper.
324
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And now one of the FBI's most�wanted men.
325
00:18:22,142 --> 00:18:24,144
[McChesney] Even with the FBI involved,
326
00:18:24,228 --> 00:18:26,480
sharing information was a real challenge.
327
00:18:27,773 --> 00:18:29,733
There was no central database.
328
00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:31,235
There was no Internet.
329
00:18:31,318 --> 00:18:32,152
[phone rings]
330
00:18:32,236 --> 00:18:35,656
[Michaud] The FBI were limited
in their reach to the general public.
331
00:18:36,365 --> 00:18:38,075
In those days, there was always a delay
332
00:18:38,158 --> 00:18:40,202
between what happened
and getting the story.
333
00:18:41,161 --> 00:18:44,123
And so Ted was just a legend
in his own time�zone.
334
00:18:45,916 --> 00:18:49,378
[Bundy] The FBI knows that people
are creatures of habit...
335
00:18:49,795 --> 00:18:53,715
that we have our little things
that we like to do.
336
00:18:56,593 --> 00:19:02,975
And they just wait for a person
to assume those habits again.
337
00:19:05,561 --> 00:19:07,688
The person has to examine his life
and say,
338
00:19:08,230 --> 00:19:11,984
"What parts of my life are distinctive?"
And then change them.
339
00:19:14,820 --> 00:19:16,321
Creating an identity...
340
00:19:18,532 --> 00:19:23,829
is-- is not terribly difficult
to do at all.
341
00:19:33,589 --> 00:19:36,967
Frightened coeds
at Florida State University in Tallahassee
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00:19:37,050 --> 00:19:39,178
walked to class in groups today
343
00:19:39,261 --> 00:19:41,096
while detectives tried to track a man
344
00:19:41,180 --> 00:19:45,017
who slipped into a sorority�house
early yesterday and murdered two women.
345
00:19:47,394 --> 00:19:49,855
[reporter] In the early morning hours,
through a�backdoor,
346
00:19:49,938 --> 00:19:52,524
the Intruder came in,
carrying an oak tree�limb
347
00:19:53,108 --> 00:19:54,943
[reporter #2]
The killer came in from the night,
348
00:19:55,027 --> 00:19:59,072
and then returned to it with an ease
that has so far baffled police
349
00:19:59,156 --> 00:20:01,617
and left most coeds here terrified.
350
00:20:02,910 --> 00:20:06,121
[man] It all began at about 2:30 a.m.
351
00:20:06,205 --> 00:20:08,248
A call I'll never forget.
352
00:20:08,624 --> 00:20:11,627
The frantic nature of the...
353
00:20:12,211 --> 00:20:16,506
caller on the other end of the phone
saying, "Sheriff, uh...
354
00:20:17,132 --> 00:20:19,509
we may have as many as four dead
355
00:20:20,219 --> 00:20:23,555
at the Chi Omega sorority house,
Florida State University."
356
00:20:24,056 --> 00:20:26,225
-[sirens wailing]
-[indistinct chatter]
357
00:20:26,642 --> 00:20:31,271
As I arrived, they were taking girls out
on stretchers.
358
00:20:31,855 --> 00:20:34,608
I didn't know,
and frankly they didn't either,
359
00:20:34,691 --> 00:20:36,276
whether they were dead or alive.
360
00:20:38,403 --> 00:20:42,115
It appeared that the person
was attempting to be organized
361
00:20:42,199 --> 00:20:46,161
like it was necessary
to do things in order.
362
00:20:46,703 --> 00:20:49,706
[reporter] Most Chi Os had come back
from their�dates and gone to bed.
363
00:20:50,082 --> 00:20:53,585
That's where the intruder found
Margaret Bowman asleep.
364
00:20:54,002 --> 00:20:55,254
She never woke up.
365
00:20:55,337 --> 00:20:59,132
She died in her bed,
beaten, strangled, sexually molested.
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00:21:00,634 --> 00:21:04,721
[Katsaris] But you could tell
that the person that did this
367
00:21:05,264 --> 00:21:07,057
was also losing control.
368
00:21:08,058 --> 00:21:10,519
[reporter] Further down the hall,
Lisa Levy was�asleep.
369
00:21:10,936 --> 00:21:13,772
She, too, died without regaining
consciousness.
370
00:21:15,315 --> 00:21:18,777
Still further down the hall, roommates
Karen Chandler and Kathy Kleiner
371
00:21:18,860 --> 00:21:20,404
survived their attacks.
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00:21:20,487 --> 00:21:23,365
Both were asleep,
neither saw their attacker.
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00:21:24,074 --> 00:21:26,243
[Katsaris] When you walk into a room,
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00:21:26,326 --> 00:21:29,079
with the intentions of harming someone
375
00:21:29,162 --> 00:21:31,540
but then end up brutalizing
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00:21:31,915 --> 00:21:33,500
one, two,
377
00:21:33,583 --> 00:21:35,460
three, four--
378
00:21:36,253 --> 00:21:39,381
It shocked even all of us who have seen...
379
00:21:39,965 --> 00:21:41,550
brutalization before.
380
00:21:45,512 --> 00:21:48,724
When he hit the girls,
I just don't think they had a chance
381
00:21:48,807 --> 00:21:49,808
to fight back.
382
00:21:50,350 --> 00:21:51,893
I think he just went in and hit.
383
00:21:52,352 --> 00:21:54,688
I just don't think they had
a chance to cry out.
384
00:21:56,064 --> 00:21:59,109
[Katsaris]
That same night, while I was outside,
385
00:21:59,192 --> 00:22:01,987
we got a call
that crackled on my radio and said,
386
00:22:02,070 --> 00:22:06,533
"There are some real unusual�noises
coming from a duplex.
387
00:22:06,908 --> 00:22:10,495
The neighbor next door
is calling in and saying,
388
00:22:10,579 --> 00:22:13,749
'It sounds like somebody
is really being beat�up.'"
389
00:22:13,832 --> 00:22:16,335
And I said, "Could it be?
390
00:22:17,002 --> 00:22:22,215
Is it possible? Could the same person
have gone to another location?"
391
00:22:23,216 --> 00:22:26,970
And I said, "No,
in all my studies of criminology,
392
00:22:27,054 --> 00:22:29,639
crime, criminals and their methods,
393
00:22:29,723 --> 00:22:31,933
they do�something like this,
they're on the lam.
394
00:22:32,017 --> 00:22:33,894
They're gone.
They don't want to be around.
395
00:22:33,977 --> 00:22:36,021
They're certainly not gonna commit
another crime."
396
00:22:36,772 --> 00:22:39,399
I sent an investigator to that scene.
397
00:22:39,483 --> 00:22:41,693
It was only about six blocks away.
398
00:22:41,777 --> 00:22:46,490
Sure enough, there laid a young lady,
a dance major,
399
00:22:47,366 --> 00:22:49,326
brutalized, beaten,
400
00:22:49,659 --> 00:22:51,286
laying in a pool of blood.
401
00:22:52,371 --> 00:22:55,123
Obviously, we had the same individual
402
00:22:55,207 --> 00:22:59,127
who didn't get but a few blocks
and couldn't�stop himself.
403
00:23:04,216 --> 00:23:05,759
He brutalized them.
404
00:23:05,842 --> 00:23:07,386
Two to their death
405
00:23:07,469 --> 00:23:11,556
and three to his certainty
that he had killed them.
406
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:12,849
But he had not.
407
00:23:13,642 --> 00:23:15,811
[reporter] Florida Department
of Criminal Law Enforcement
408
00:23:15,894 --> 00:23:18,897
crime lab experts
are busy sifting through and analyzing
409
00:23:18,980 --> 00:23:21,358
evidence that was collected
from the Chi Omega�house.
410
00:23:21,900 --> 00:23:26,446
We were thinking,
"Who could it be and how did he get there?
411
00:23:26,530 --> 00:23:29,908
And what methods were used and why?"
412
00:23:29,991 --> 00:23:32,494
I mean, the questions were just numerous.
413
00:23:33,537 --> 00:23:35,872
So I made my way to the morgue.
414
00:23:36,540 --> 00:23:41,503
There, as I examined the bodies
of the two�deceased girls,
415
00:23:41,586 --> 00:23:45,924
I saw that there was mutilation
by mouth,�by teeth.
416
00:23:47,008 --> 00:23:48,969
There was a very large,
417
00:23:49,594 --> 00:23:50,846
very imprinted,
418
00:23:51,346 --> 00:23:53,098
double bite mark.
419
00:23:54,808 --> 00:23:57,561
[male reporter] What kind of a person
do you think is at�large?
420
00:23:57,644 --> 00:24:00,272
Well, I'd rather say
421
00:24:00,605 --> 00:24:04,693
we've got a very disturbed,
sick individual.
422
00:24:08,530 --> 00:24:10,532
[birds chirping]
423
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,122
[girl] Everybody's scared all the time.
Even just walking to classes.
424
00:24:17,205 --> 00:24:19,040
And today, we've been keeping
our doors locked
425
00:24:19,124 --> 00:24:21,001
during the day too,
which we don't usually do.
426
00:24:24,087 --> 00:24:27,382
[man] There'd never been a crime
like this�before in Tallahassee.
427
00:24:27,966 --> 00:24:30,135
There was a tenseness in the air.
428
00:24:30,218 --> 00:24:32,471
A nagging fear, a nagging question,
429
00:24:32,888 --> 00:24:35,932
that could not be just pushed aside.
430
00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:42,022
I was a 28-year-old journalist
down at WFSU TV in Tallahassee.
431
00:24:43,940 --> 00:24:49,696
Across the street from the TV station
was a Chi Omega sorority house.
432
00:24:50,363 --> 00:24:53,825
We had coeds who were savagely attacked.
433
00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:57,078
And nobody knew
who was responsible for this,
434
00:24:57,162 --> 00:24:58,622
but they were still�out there.
435
00:24:59,956 --> 00:25:01,750
[helicopter thrumming]
436
00:25:01,833 --> 00:25:05,212
You'd hear helicopters flying overhead
at night,
437
00:25:05,295 --> 00:25:07,172
buzzing across the city.
438
00:25:07,964 --> 00:25:10,217
[reporter] Police continue to guard
the Chi Omega house
439
00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:12,260
around the clock,
but the girls who live there
440
00:25:12,344 --> 00:25:14,554
haven't slept in the house
since last weekend
441
00:25:15,013 --> 00:25:17,140
and there's no word
on when they'll return.
442
00:25:17,224 --> 00:25:18,725
Everybody wanted answers.
443
00:25:18,808 --> 00:25:20,810
Obviously, we didn't have�any answers.
444
00:25:21,853 --> 00:25:25,607
We did call the FBI,
but they were not very helpful.
445
00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:29,945
They started working
on getting together�a profile
446
00:25:30,028 --> 00:25:33,073
of the type of person we might
be looking for,
447
00:25:33,532 --> 00:25:37,369
but unfortunately a�profile
could apply to so many people.
448
00:25:38,286 --> 00:25:40,747
It's good when you have
the person that did it,
449
00:25:40,830 --> 00:25:43,667
and say, "Aha! See? It matches."
450
00:25:43,750 --> 00:25:47,462
But you couldn't take that profile
and go out�and find the person.
451
00:25:47,879 --> 00:25:49,589
It just doesn't work that way.
452
00:25:50,215 --> 00:25:53,176
We are trying to establish
the whereabouts, um,
453
00:25:53,260 --> 00:25:57,722
and if certain people and so on could've
been in the Tallahassee area. Yes.
454
00:25:57,806 --> 00:26:01,226
It's just running down
every lead to the�nth degree,
455
00:26:01,309 --> 00:26:03,395
rather than allowing anything to slip by.
456
00:26:04,521 --> 00:26:06,898
[Katsaris]
Every County in Florida was frightened.
457
00:26:07,399 --> 00:26:10,026
Window locks, door locks, padlocks.
458
00:26:10,652 --> 00:26:13,280
I mean, the stores
were selling out of everything,
459
00:26:13,655 --> 00:26:17,951
because people thought, "Goodness,
there's a murderer on the loose."
460
00:26:30,672 --> 00:26:33,675
[man] Lake City was,
you know, small town USA.
461
00:26:33,758 --> 00:26:35,343
Everybody knew everybody.
462
00:26:36,011 --> 00:26:39,806
People didn't lock the front door,
left keys in the car in the driveway.
463
00:26:40,348 --> 00:26:42,142
Kids just walked all over town.
464
00:26:43,935 --> 00:26:46,605
And Kim Leach was just a small-town girl.
465
00:26:47,939 --> 00:26:49,983
[reporter] 12-year-old
Kimberly Diane Leach
466
00:26:50,066 --> 00:26:51,818
went to�school Thursday, February 9th,
467
00:26:51,901 --> 00:26:54,029
here at Lake City Junior High School.
468
00:26:54,112 --> 00:26:55,947
By mid-morning, she was missing
469
00:26:56,239 --> 00:26:58,825
and no one has seen or�heard
from her since.
470
00:26:59,367 --> 00:27:01,703
[Dekle] First I�heard
of the disappearance of Kim Leach,
471
00:27:01,786 --> 00:27:03,371
I was driving to the hospital
472
00:27:03,913 --> 00:27:06,166
to visit my wife
who had just delivered our third child
473
00:27:06,249 --> 00:27:08,585
and I heard about it on the�radio.
474
00:27:09,586 --> 00:27:13,465
[male reporter] She exited this building
and walked across this basketball court.
475
00:27:13,882 --> 00:27:16,885
But from then on, the�whereabouts
of Kimberly Diane Leach
476
00:27:16,968 --> 00:27:19,721
is unknown to the Lake City
Police Department.
477
00:27:20,639 --> 00:27:21,890
[Dekle] It was a real whodunit.
478
00:27:22,557 --> 00:27:24,893
We had a missing person
to begin with,
479
00:27:24,976 --> 00:27:29,314
but we didn't have Kim Leach's body.
It was a monumental task.
480
00:27:30,231 --> 00:27:32,984
[reporter] A wide search is being made
for Leach in Lake City.
481
00:27:33,068 --> 00:27:35,236
More than 75 state troopers,
482
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,365
Florida Division�of Forestry workers,
deputies and others
483
00:27:38,448 --> 00:27:40,241
are helping out in that hunt.
484
00:27:57,050 --> 00:27:59,052
[birds chirping]
485
00:28:14,150 --> 00:28:17,654
[Bundy] That day in Pensacola
had been one of the best I'd spent.
486
00:28:18,029 --> 00:28:20,281
It was sunny, I'd gone to the ocean,
laid on the beach.
487
00:28:20,782 --> 00:28:23,535
And I said to myself--
I remember saying to myself that day,
488
00:28:23,618 --> 00:28:25,537
"Boy, you've got it whipped." You know?
489
00:28:25,620 --> 00:28:27,539
"This is the way to start out 1978,
490
00:28:27,622 --> 00:28:30,041
laying on the beach
in the Gulf of Florida."
491
00:28:31,376 --> 00:28:34,546
And just laying there in the sand
and getting a bit of a tan.
492
00:28:35,213 --> 00:28:36,881
I mean, I was super confident
493
00:28:36,965 --> 00:28:39,050
and I was just-- just feeling
494
00:28:39,134 --> 00:28:42,387
really satisfied with the way things were.
495
00:28:53,314 --> 00:28:55,191
[reporter] Police arrested
this 31-year-old man
496
00:28:55,275 --> 00:28:58,486
after a high speed chase
Wednesday morning in Pensacola, Florida.
497
00:28:58,570 --> 00:29:01,197
He claims to be
a Florida State University law student.
498
00:29:01,823 --> 00:29:05,910
[Katsaris] An officer in Pensacola,
doing his job�very well,
499
00:29:06,536 --> 00:29:09,330
stopped a car that, in his gut, said,
500
00:29:09,414 --> 00:29:12,834
"This isn't right, it's going slow."
It just didn't look right.
501
00:29:13,501 --> 00:29:15,003
[reporter] Who is this man?
502
00:29:15,086 --> 00:29:17,839
He was arrested driving
a stolen Tallahassee car,
503
00:29:17,922 --> 00:29:20,508
and carrying 21 stolen credit�cards,
504
00:29:20,592 --> 00:29:23,303
many of which belonged to FSU coeds.
505
00:29:23,386 --> 00:29:25,597
He refused to give his name to authorities
506
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,974
and he resisted arrest with violence.
507
00:29:28,391 --> 00:29:31,686
[man] He grabbed my wrist and we had
a struggle for control of my revolver.
508
00:29:31,770 --> 00:29:34,147
After several minutes of fighting,
I did manage to subdue him
509
00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:35,982
by striking him with my revolver
510
00:29:36,065 --> 00:29:39,319
and completing the arrest by placing
the cuff on his other hand
511
00:29:39,402 --> 00:29:40,820
and taking him back to the patrol car.
512
00:29:42,614 --> 00:29:44,407
[Katsaris] For the initial period
513
00:29:44,491 --> 00:29:48,828
that he was being held
in Pensacola County Jail,
514
00:29:49,329 --> 00:29:50,580
he had another name.
515
00:29:51,289 --> 00:29:55,293
[reporter] He told police that he was
29-year-old Kenneth Misner of Tallahassee,
516
00:29:55,376 --> 00:29:57,670
and even�had ID cards to prove it.
517
00:29:58,713 --> 00:30:01,257
[Katsaris]
That person heard that he was in jail
518
00:30:01,341 --> 00:30:03,510
and notified us and said,
519
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,387
"Hey, that's not me. I'm here.
520
00:30:06,471 --> 00:30:08,598
I'm not over there. I didn't do this."
521
00:30:09,682 --> 00:30:12,435
[Dekle] Police didn't know
who they had in Pensacola.
522
00:30:12,977 --> 00:30:15,522
He handed over a driver's license,
523
00:30:15,605 --> 00:30:18,274
but, you know,
driver's licenses in 1979 in Florida
524
00:30:18,358 --> 00:30:20,318
were printed on a little piece of paper,
525
00:30:20,401 --> 00:30:23,196
almost like, you know,
you'd put the form into a typewriter
526
00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:24,656
and type it out.
527
00:30:24,739 --> 00:30:26,199
There's no picture on them.
528
00:30:26,699 --> 00:30:29,035
[reporter]
When the real Misner was located at home,
529
00:30:29,118 --> 00:30:30,578
he admitted the IDs were phony.
530
00:30:30,995 --> 00:30:34,249
He was ordered held without bond
by a circuit court judge this morning
531
00:30:34,332 --> 00:30:37,085
after he again refused
to identify himself.
532
00:30:37,544 --> 00:30:39,504
[judge] Are you acquainted with
or are you familiar
533
00:30:39,587 --> 00:30:42,757
with the charges against you
as outlined by the state's attorney?
534
00:30:43,758 --> 00:30:47,637
I would like the court
to, um, list them again.
535
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,431
I don't believe I picked everything up
from the state's attorney.
536
00:30:50,515 --> 00:30:54,727
[judge] This is for possession
of stolen property, an automobile,
537
00:30:54,811 --> 00:30:57,230
possession of a stolen television,
538
00:30:57,939 --> 00:30:59,107
uh...
539
00:30:59,190 --> 00:31:02,527
possession of stolen credit cards
on 21 accounts,
540
00:31:03,278 --> 00:31:07,490
possession of stolen tags,
that is automobile tags,
541
00:31:08,032 --> 00:31:12,787
battery of a police officer
and resisting arrest with violence.
542
00:31:13,371 --> 00:31:15,832
[public defender]
He is entitled to a bond on these cases.
543
00:31:15,915 --> 00:31:17,584
[judge] We can't bail him out if we--
544
00:31:17,667 --> 00:31:20,795
We don't even now who he is,
he won't tell us who he is.
545
00:31:22,547 --> 00:31:24,215
Who would be the principal on the bond?
546
00:31:24,299 --> 00:31:26,009
Your Honor, all I know is what they say.
547
00:31:26,092 --> 00:31:28,219
I don't know
whether he's given his name or not.
548
00:31:28,303 --> 00:31:31,055
He's certainly entitled to a bond
in any event I would think.
549
00:31:31,139 --> 00:31:33,683
[prosecutor] Your Honor,
the public defender heard�the man admit
550
00:31:33,766 --> 00:31:36,060
that he is not the person
whose name he gave
551
00:31:36,144 --> 00:31:38,563
and he has failed to come forward
with his correct name.
552
00:31:39,856 --> 00:31:44,944
[judge] Well, until we find out who he is,
there's no way we can bail him out.
553
00:31:45,028 --> 00:31:46,279
[public defender] All right.
554
00:31:46,821 --> 00:31:49,115
[reporter]
The mystery man will be kept behind bars
555
00:31:49,198 --> 00:31:51,117
before returning to court to enter a plea.
556
00:31:51,409 --> 00:31:54,537
Officials say by then,
they hope to know�who he is.
557
00:31:55,705 --> 00:31:58,541
[Katsaris] We have an individual,
we don't know who he is yet.
558
00:31:59,167 --> 00:32:02,921
So it became
an information-gathering process,
559
00:32:03,296 --> 00:32:05,840
and we focused on the car.
560
00:32:07,508 --> 00:32:09,677
There was no hair fibers.
561
00:32:10,011 --> 00:32:13,431
There were no trace evidence of any kind.
562
00:32:15,058 --> 00:32:18,311
But we did identify
that it was a stolen vehicle,
563
00:32:18,853 --> 00:32:20,772
stolen from nearby...
564
00:32:21,481 --> 00:32:22,565
the Chi Omega house.
565
00:32:23,232 --> 00:32:26,861
I thought, you know,
this might be our first potential suspect.
566
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,948
So I sent investigators to Pensacola
567
00:32:30,031 --> 00:32:32,408
and we started to learn more about him.
568
00:32:33,117 --> 00:32:35,745
[male reporter] Two people
who want most to know who he is
569
00:32:35,828 --> 00:32:38,957
are Tallahassee detectives
Steve Bodiford�and Don Pachen.
570
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,834
They have now spent several hours
quizzing Mr. Mystery
571
00:32:41,918 --> 00:32:45,380
about the slayings last month
of two Florida State University coeds
572
00:32:45,463 --> 00:32:46,464
from St. Petersburg.
573
00:32:47,507 --> 00:32:50,468
[Katsaris] We started investigating
and talking to him,
574
00:32:50,551 --> 00:32:53,972
asked him if he would talk to us,
and he was reluctant.
575
00:32:54,430 --> 00:32:55,890
He started playing games.
576
00:32:56,265 --> 00:32:59,644
He's a very careful thinker,
and from what�I understand, he--
577
00:32:59,727 --> 00:33:02,981
from the men who've been�questioning him--
he says what, uh...
578
00:33:03,064 --> 00:33:06,150
what he wants to, and he's very careful
about how he says it.
579
00:33:06,818 --> 00:33:10,279
[Katsaris] For a while, I let him
play his games with my�investigators
580
00:33:10,363 --> 00:33:12,240
until I said, "Enough."
581
00:33:12,782 --> 00:33:14,826
And then it started unraveling.
582
00:33:16,411 --> 00:33:19,998
[Bundy] I was being interrogated
by the police�in Pensacola.
583
00:33:20,540 --> 00:33:24,085
And I have no way of measuring...
584
00:33:25,128 --> 00:33:29,090
on a scale of one to ten,
or one to a hundred even what--
585
00:33:29,173 --> 00:33:33,219
what the traumatic effect
on my mind and body was.
586
00:33:33,970 --> 00:33:35,722
And I said I wanted to talk to somebody.
587
00:33:35,805 --> 00:33:37,557
Just someone to talk to--
588
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,851
I needed a friend,
I needed somebody close.
589
00:33:39,934 --> 00:33:42,937
I didn't want a cop or an attorney.
I was sick and tired of cops.
590
00:33:43,438 --> 00:33:45,940
I needed somebody there.
Somebody to talk to.
591
00:33:46,399 --> 00:33:47,859
Somebody to settle me down
592
00:33:47,942 --> 00:33:50,445
and to help me get over this...
593
00:33:51,195 --> 00:33:54,073
reaction I was having
being back in custody.
594
00:33:54,699 --> 00:33:56,993
He finally identified himself
595
00:33:57,076 --> 00:34:00,621
in exchange for a phone call
to his girlfriend Liz.
596
00:34:03,291 --> 00:34:08,337
[male investigator] The date is 2/21/78.
The time is 15:20 hours.
597
00:34:08,796 --> 00:34:11,883
This will be an interview
with Elizabeth Kloepfer.
598
00:34:12,675 --> 00:34:15,845
Could you begin on February 16th, '78
599
00:34:15,928 --> 00:34:19,599
and describe the telephone call
that you received from Ted Bundy?
600
00:34:19,682 --> 00:34:22,727
[woman] Uh, he called collect,
my daughter accepted the charges.
601
00:34:22,810 --> 00:34:26,773
And he said that he was in custody
and I asked him where and he said Florida.
602
00:34:27,231 --> 00:34:28,733
He repeated over and over again
603
00:34:28,816 --> 00:34:30,818
that this was really going to be bad
when it broke.
604
00:34:30,902 --> 00:34:32,820
That it was not going
to break until tomorrow morning
605
00:34:32,904 --> 00:34:35,656
and be in the press,
but it was going to be really ugly.
606
00:34:35,740 --> 00:34:37,366
And I asked him...
607
00:34:37,867 --> 00:34:40,787
if he was referring to the murders
of some sorority girls in Florida,
608
00:34:40,870 --> 00:34:43,998
and he said
that he wouldn't talk about it.
609
00:34:44,874 --> 00:34:48,211
He told me that he wished that we could
sit down and talk about...
610
00:34:48,961 --> 00:34:50,838
things without anyone listening.
611
00:34:50,922 --> 00:34:53,758
About why he was the way he is,
and I said,
612
00:34:53,841 --> 00:34:55,927
"Are you telling me that you're sick?"
613
00:34:56,010 --> 00:35:00,723
And he said-- He was really defensive
and he told me to back off.
614
00:35:01,516 --> 00:35:04,685
Saturday morning at two,
he called again...�collect.
615
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,482
And he said that he wanted to talk
about what we'd been talking about.
616
00:35:10,441 --> 00:35:12,652
He told me that he was sick
and that he...
617
00:35:13,778 --> 00:35:16,656
was consumed by something
that he didn't understand
618
00:35:16,739 --> 00:35:18,741
and that, um...
619
00:35:19,659 --> 00:35:20,576
that it--
620
00:35:21,619 --> 00:35:23,329
that he just couldn't contain it.
621
00:35:23,704 --> 00:35:28,793
He spent so much time trying to maintain
a normal life and he just couldn't do it.
622
00:35:28,876 --> 00:35:31,546
He said that he was preoccupied
with this force.
623
00:35:33,756 --> 00:35:37,635
[Michaud] Ted was identified,
and at that point, the jig's up, right?
624
00:35:38,594 --> 00:35:40,638
[reporter]
The police in Pensacola, Florida,
625
00:35:40,721 --> 00:35:43,891
stopped a man driving a stolen car
and found to their surprise,
626
00:35:43,975 --> 00:35:46,769
and perhaps pleasure,
it was Theodore Robert Bundy,
627
00:35:46,853 --> 00:35:50,148
one of the ten most wanted criminals
in this country.
628
00:35:50,231 --> 00:35:54,944
[Michaud] It was remarkable that Ted
was able to elude the police for so long.
629
00:35:55,278 --> 00:35:58,114
But Ted had that sort
of chameleon-like�face
630
00:35:58,197 --> 00:36:02,243
that could look 100 different ways,
depending on the angle that you caught it.
631
00:36:02,326 --> 00:36:07,707
He was handsome and smooth-talking.
That allowed him to do what he did.
632
00:36:08,457 --> 00:36:12,461
And Ted told me
that after he escaped�Colorado,
633
00:36:12,545 --> 00:36:13,880
he got himself on a bus,
634
00:36:15,089 --> 00:36:17,592
took the bus to Denver.
635
00:36:19,177 --> 00:36:22,513
At Denver, he got a flight to Chicago.
636
00:36:24,182 --> 00:36:27,894
In Chicago he got on an Amtrak train
and went�to Ann Arbor,
637
00:36:28,853 --> 00:36:33,691
and was there to watch his alma mater,
the University of Washington,
638
00:36:33,774 --> 00:36:36,194
play the University of Michigan
in the Rose Bowl.
639
00:36:40,114 --> 00:36:42,325
He got drunk watching it in a college bar
640
00:36:42,825 --> 00:36:45,536
and almost got himself beat to shit
by a bunch of Michigan fans.
641
00:36:46,329 --> 00:36:49,248
Spent the night in the sanctuary
of a�Methodist church,
642
00:36:49,916 --> 00:36:51,584
stole a car the next day,
643
00:36:52,501 --> 00:36:54,212
and got as far as...
644
00:36:54,837 --> 00:36:57,006
Atlanta, where he abandons it.
645
00:36:58,674 --> 00:37:01,344
He then takes a bus to...
646
00:37:01,427 --> 00:37:04,388
Tallahassee and Florida State University.
647
00:37:08,351 --> 00:37:10,144
[man]
Well, why Florida in the first place?
648
00:37:10,228 --> 00:37:14,482
[Bundy] It was the very opposite end
of the country from the Pacific Northwest.
649
00:37:15,316 --> 00:37:16,901
Not that I disliked the northern climate,
650
00:37:16,984 --> 00:37:19,403
but I didn't have the clothing
and it was...
651
00:37:19,487 --> 00:37:21,322
It'd just be harder to get around
652
00:37:21,697 --> 00:37:25,034
and to live in a cold climate
when you didn't have any money.
653
00:37:25,576 --> 00:37:29,121
I didn't know anybody in Florida,
and I thought the likelihood
654
00:37:29,205 --> 00:37:33,042
that Florida would know anything
about Ted Bundy was remote.
655
00:37:33,834 --> 00:37:37,755
[McChesney] The fact that Ted
was able to escape and get into Florida
656
00:37:37,838 --> 00:37:39,882
through a circuitous route
657
00:37:40,466 --> 00:37:44,053
sounds crazy, but back in the late '70s,
658
00:37:44,136 --> 00:37:46,764
we didn't have the technology
that we have now.
659
00:37:48,808 --> 00:37:51,686
[Michaud] The authorities,
including the FBI,
660
00:37:51,769 --> 00:37:54,605
had a very limited number of tools.
661
00:37:57,316 --> 00:38:01,988
No DNA, you know, no teletypes--
They didn't even have fax machines.
662
00:38:05,116 --> 00:38:08,160
You know, imagine a world
where most of the�communication
663
00:38:08,244 --> 00:38:11,872
is done by US mail or rotary telephones.
664
00:38:12,873 --> 00:38:17,169
And so they were always
at least a step�behind Ted.
665
00:38:17,712 --> 00:38:21,257
And he believed,
"I can't get caught doing this."
666
00:38:23,342 --> 00:38:25,970
[Katsaris]
After all the grief that he created,
667
00:38:26,762 --> 00:38:28,514
it was a traffic stop!
668
00:38:29,974 --> 00:38:33,352
A traffic stop that we got him on.
669
00:38:33,436 --> 00:38:36,897
[male reporter] Authorities say they can
place Bundy in Tallahassee in January
670
00:38:36,981 --> 00:38:41,402
and he has become�a prime suspect
in the Chi Omega sorority�house murders.
671
00:38:51,787 --> 00:38:53,789
[indistinct clamoring]
672
00:39:01,505 --> 00:39:04,550
[Keppel] I believe Kathy McChesney
read it in the�newspaper
673
00:39:04,633 --> 00:39:09,055
that Bundy had been arrested in Florida.
674
00:39:09,138 --> 00:39:11,390
So we were pleased to know it.
675
00:39:11,474 --> 00:39:13,809
We weren't pleased
that somebody was murdered, but...
676
00:39:14,643 --> 00:39:16,145
certainly it was, uh...
677
00:39:16,937 --> 00:39:17,897
a good start.
678
00:39:19,106 --> 00:39:21,650
[McChesney]
Ted was a absolutely prime suspect
679
00:39:21,734 --> 00:39:22,943
for the Chi Omega,
680
00:39:23,361 --> 00:39:29,158
and he was placed just,
you know, within miles...
681
00:39:29,241 --> 00:39:31,744
of where the offenses occurred.
682
00:39:32,828 --> 00:39:35,373
[reporter] Many of the 21 credit cards
Bundy had with him
683
00:39:35,456 --> 00:39:36,832
were stolen in Sherrod's,
684
00:39:37,291 --> 00:39:40,669
a bar next to the Chi Omega sorority,
on Jefferson Avenue.
685
00:39:40,753 --> 00:39:43,297
[reporter #2] Bundy lived in this house,
which is four blocks
686
00:39:43,381 --> 00:39:44,965
from the Chi Omega sorority.
687
00:39:45,049 --> 00:39:48,094
He was there for several weeks
before and�after the killings.
688
00:39:48,928 --> 00:39:51,639
Frances Messier lived
across the hall from Bundy
689
00:39:51,722 --> 00:39:53,307
and knew him as Chris.
690
00:39:53,391 --> 00:39:54,850
What kind of person was he?
691
00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:57,812
Um, a quiet-type person.
692
00:39:59,647 --> 00:40:02,024
Aloof and friendly.
693
00:40:02,108 --> 00:40:04,068
You'd gone out to dinner
with him�one time?
694
00:40:04,527 --> 00:40:06,070
We went out to dinner once.
695
00:40:07,154 --> 00:40:09,365
Yes, that, that's kinda... [chuckles]
696
00:40:13,536 --> 00:40:16,163
[Dekle]
At this point, Bundy was also a suspect
697
00:40:16,664 --> 00:40:19,417
as the potential killer of Kim Leach.
698
00:40:19,959 --> 00:40:22,253
We tracked a number
of stolen credit�cards
699
00:40:22,336 --> 00:40:24,130
that we found in his possession
700
00:40:24,755 --> 00:40:28,259
and found that he had spent the night
at the Lake City Holiday Inn
701
00:40:28,634 --> 00:40:30,636
two and a half�miles from...
702
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,265
the Lake City Junior High�School
the night before Kim went missing.
703
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,102
Uh, that's a pretty good indication
you might want to look at him
704
00:40:38,185 --> 00:40:39,478
as a possible suspect.
705
00:40:40,104 --> 00:40:42,773
[male reporter] Bundy allegedly
spent the evening after he checked in
706
00:40:42,857 --> 00:40:44,483
sitting in the motel's bar,
707
00:40:44,567 --> 00:40:48,279
sipping gin while chatting�with a man
next to him for several hours.
708
00:40:48,779 --> 00:40:50,948
Bundy checked out
of the Lake City Holiday Inn
709
00:40:51,031 --> 00:40:53,117
the next�morning at about 7:30,
710
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,786
the same morning
Kimberly Leach disappeared.
711
00:40:56,370 --> 00:40:59,165
But before we could make
any kind of a homicide case,
712
00:40:59,248 --> 00:41:00,458
we had to find the body.
713
00:41:01,625 --> 00:41:04,462
And some time
about a month and a half�later,
714
00:41:04,545 --> 00:41:06,755
we had found what we were looking for.
715
00:41:08,007 --> 00:41:10,009
[reporter]
Eight weeks of searching led to her body.
716
00:41:10,092 --> 00:41:13,179
in a deserted tin shack,
next to an empty hog pen.
717
00:41:15,848 --> 00:41:17,892
[Dekle] Worst thing in the world
a prosecutor�can do
718
00:41:17,975 --> 00:41:19,768
is get personally involved in a case.
719
00:41:21,395 --> 00:41:24,190
And, uh... I had not cried
720
00:41:24,565 --> 00:41:26,192
in my entire adult life.
721
00:41:26,275 --> 00:41:28,652
I hadn't cried since I was a teenager.
722
00:41:29,570 --> 00:41:32,406
I cried the day we found Kim Leach's body.
723
00:41:37,536 --> 00:41:40,372
She was just a... smart, intelligent,
724
00:41:40,706 --> 00:41:41,707
obedient,
725
00:41:42,374 --> 00:41:44,168
little girl who, uh...
726
00:41:44,877 --> 00:41:46,337
reminded me of my daughter.
727
00:41:48,130 --> 00:41:50,341
[woman] To actually have
a 12-year-old child
728
00:41:50,424 --> 00:41:51,967
taken from our community
729
00:41:52,551 --> 00:41:54,011
and brutally murdered
730
00:41:54,094 --> 00:41:56,013
by some monster--
731
00:41:56,096 --> 00:41:59,016
Just grabbed her up and took her away--
732
00:41:59,266 --> 00:42:01,727
It's just shock and disbelief.
733
00:42:08,776 --> 00:42:10,236
[Katsaris] I told Ted Bundy,
734
00:42:10,319 --> 00:42:14,323
we now have the evidence
to charge him�with both cases.
735
00:42:16,283 --> 00:42:21,997
He looked at me and said,
"When you find the person...
736
00:42:22,873 --> 00:42:27,336
that committed these crimes
that you think I committed...
737
00:42:28,462 --> 00:42:29,755
that person...
738
00:42:30,339 --> 00:42:33,801
is going to be wanted for...
739
00:42:34,927 --> 00:42:36,762
murders of women
740
00:42:37,596 --> 00:42:39,390
in the three digits...
741
00:42:41,517 --> 00:42:42,393
and...
742
00:42:43,727 --> 00:42:45,062
six states."
743
00:42:46,772 --> 00:42:48,774
And he put his fingers up like that.
744
00:42:52,528 --> 00:42:54,822
[Dekle] Ted Bundy was one mad-dog killer
745
00:42:55,072 --> 00:42:56,782
and I wanted him executed,
746
00:42:56,865 --> 00:42:59,994
but he had not been indicted
in either case.
747
00:43:01,245 --> 00:43:05,708
So I spent a good deal of time
in Tallahassee conferring with the, uh,
748
00:43:05,791 --> 00:43:08,711
prosecutors in Tallahassee
about the�Tallahassee case.
749
00:43:09,086 --> 00:43:11,213
Which case should be�tried first.
750
00:43:12,256 --> 00:43:13,632
I felt that, uh,
751
00:43:13,716 --> 00:43:16,677
Bundy ought to be tried
in Tallahassee first,
752
00:43:17,011 --> 00:43:20,097
because they had a much more secure jail
in Tallahassee.
753
00:43:22,349 --> 00:43:25,227
[Katsaris] My goal was to never...
754
00:43:25,686 --> 00:43:29,315
ever allow him to kill another young lady.
755
00:43:30,441 --> 00:43:33,986
So we put him
into a secure portion of the jail.
756
00:43:34,945 --> 00:43:37,364
And then we had three locks on the door:
757
00:43:37,531 --> 00:43:41,619
the traditional key lock,
the big key, the jail key,
758
00:43:41,702 --> 00:43:45,289
and then two very large, uh...
759
00:43:45,372 --> 00:43:47,958
very, very strong padlocks.
760
00:43:51,545 --> 00:43:53,922
One night,�I did something unusual.
761
00:43:54,548 --> 00:43:58,427
And I went to his cell and I said,
"Ted you're coming�with me."
762
00:43:58,802 --> 00:44:01,889
And he said, "This is a change-up.
This is different."
763
00:44:03,182 --> 00:44:04,850
I said, "We're going for a ride."
764
00:44:05,142 --> 00:44:07,394
And that didn't go over real well.
765
00:44:08,103 --> 00:44:10,356
I believe he thought I was going
to take�him for a ride
766
00:44:10,439 --> 00:44:12,358
from which he would never�return,
767
00:44:12,900 --> 00:44:14,693
that I was going to exercise
768
00:44:15,027 --> 00:44:18,405
some kind of�authority as the sheriff
to do him in.
769
00:44:20,324 --> 00:44:22,993
We transported him with a series of cars
770
00:44:23,494 --> 00:44:28,248
and as we opened the back door
to go up the�stairway, the back entrance,
771
00:44:29,416 --> 00:44:32,920
doors swung open,
and there stood these three doctors
772
00:44:33,003 --> 00:44:36,757
their white smocks on,
and behind them was a dental chair.
773
00:44:37,091 --> 00:44:39,176
And he lost it.
774
00:44:41,011 --> 00:44:43,555
He didn't know that what I had
775
00:44:43,639 --> 00:44:46,266
was a bite�mark from the crime scene,
776
00:44:46,350 --> 00:44:50,521
which, I believed at the time,
was Ted�Bundy's signature,
777
00:44:50,938 --> 00:44:54,483
and we wanted to�search
any and all parts of his mouth
778
00:44:54,566 --> 00:44:55,943
including his teeth.
779
00:44:57,486 --> 00:44:58,904
Well, he started screaming,
780
00:44:58,987 --> 00:45:01,198
"You can't do�this without my attorney."
781
00:45:01,281 --> 00:45:03,158
I said, "Oh, yes, we can.
782
00:45:04,118 --> 00:45:07,788
Ted, we have a warrant
and we're serving it on�you."
783
00:45:08,372 --> 00:45:12,459
We showed him the devices
that we could�use as a degree of force.
784
00:45:13,836 --> 00:45:19,425
Then on a dime, his mindset changed
like it was a different person.
785
00:45:21,260 --> 00:45:22,594
He looked at me...
786
00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:24,972
he turned around...
787
00:45:25,764 --> 00:45:27,599
he sat in the dental chair...
788
00:45:28,100 --> 00:45:29,435
he leaned back...
789
00:45:30,144 --> 00:45:31,395
put a smile on
790
00:45:31,854 --> 00:45:32,855
and said,
791
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,398
"Ken,
792
00:45:35,274 --> 00:45:37,359
you know you don't need all that stuff.
793
00:45:37,776 --> 00:45:39,737
I'm not a violent person."
794
00:45:40,279 --> 00:45:41,488
He opened his mouth.
795
00:45:42,072 --> 00:45:43,782
He said, "Do what you have to do."
796
00:45:53,876 --> 00:45:58,172
[Hula] Everybody realized
that there was somebody very special
797
00:45:58,255 --> 00:46:01,800
being held by the�police in Tallahassee.
798
00:46:02,301 --> 00:46:05,971
The dots began to�connect
from all across the country.
799
00:46:06,346 --> 00:46:10,934
From Washington State to Utah,
through the Rockies to Florida.
800
00:46:11,018 --> 00:46:16,023
We became a focal point
of criminal�justice inquiries
801
00:46:16,106 --> 00:46:17,524
in the weeks that followed.
802
00:46:18,233 --> 00:46:20,819
[Katsaris]
Other investigators came to the jail
803
00:46:21,236 --> 00:46:25,449
to try to�interview him for other cases
they were working on,
804
00:46:25,532 --> 00:46:27,075
for which they didn't have evidence.
805
00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:29,661
That had to wait,�because we had evidence
806
00:46:29,745 --> 00:46:31,997
and we had Ted�Bundy in our custody,
807
00:46:32,498 --> 00:46:35,876
something the other investigators
never had the luxury of.
808
00:46:35,959 --> 00:46:40,839
So I wasn't going to divert
from the path we set. Period.
809
00:46:42,341 --> 00:46:44,968
And I will tell you
I had a personal vengeance
810
00:46:45,052 --> 00:46:47,095
for the person that did this.
811
00:46:55,354 --> 00:46:57,397
I wanted to be the one to tell him
812
00:46:57,481 --> 00:47:00,275
that the grand jurors of this county
813
00:47:00,359 --> 00:47:02,069
have indicted you for murder.
814
00:47:06,198 --> 00:47:09,076
[Bundy] Gentlemen, I'm not gonna
be paraded for Ken Katsaris' benefit.
815
00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:10,494
Step out, Mr. Bundy.
816
00:47:15,541 --> 00:47:17,292
[Bundy]
What do we have here, Ken? Let's see.
817
00:47:17,376 --> 00:47:20,838
Oh, it's an indictment? All right.
Why don't you read it to me?
818
00:47:20,921 --> 00:47:22,548
You're about up for election,
aren't you?
819
00:47:23,048 --> 00:47:25,342
-This is how you got it, didn't you?
-Mr. Bundy--
820
00:47:25,425 --> 00:47:27,469
You told me,
that you were going to get me.
821
00:47:27,553 --> 00:47:30,305
He said he was going to get me, okay?
You got me indicted.
822
00:47:30,389 --> 00:47:33,392
It's all you're going to get.
Just read�it. Let's go.
823
00:47:34,184 --> 00:47:35,853
Theodore Robert Bundy,
824
00:47:35,936 --> 00:47:39,481
you are charged, indictment,
two counts of burglary,
825
00:47:39,565 --> 00:47:42,401
and, uh,
two counts murder in the first degree,
826
00:47:42,734 --> 00:47:46,196
three counts
attempted murder in the�first degree.
827
00:47:46,530 --> 00:47:49,074
In the name of, and by the authority
of the�State of Florida,
828
00:47:49,157 --> 00:47:52,244
the grand jurors of the�State of Florida
and panel that's sworn to inquire
829
00:47:52,327 --> 00:47:54,663
and true presentment make.
And therefore the County of Leon
830
00:47:54,746 --> 00:47:57,416
upon their oath do present
that Theodore Robert Bundy,
831
00:47:57,499 --> 00:48:00,168
on the 15th day of�January 1978,
832
00:48:00,252 --> 00:48:03,589
in Leon County, Florida, did then there
unlawfully kill a human being
833
00:48:03,672 --> 00:48:06,466
to wit: Margaret Bowman,
by strangling and/or beating her,
834
00:48:06,550 --> 00:48:09,511
and said killing was�perpetrated
by said Theodore Robert Bundy,
835
00:48:09,595 --> 00:48:11,346
from or with a premeditated design
836
00:48:11,430 --> 00:48:13,515
or attempt to affect the death
of said�Margaret Bowman,
837
00:48:13,974 --> 00:48:16,518
contrary to Section 810-02
Florida Statutes.
838
00:48:16,602 --> 00:48:18,520
-Very good.
-And your grand jurors being present
839
00:48:18,604 --> 00:48:20,898
further give the court
to be informed and understand...
840
00:48:20,981 --> 00:48:26,028
[Hula] It wasn't a press conference.
It was a staged perp walk
841
00:48:26,111 --> 00:48:28,071
by Sheriff Ken Katsaris.
842
00:48:28,530 --> 00:48:34,328
to make a big deal out of him
arresting and charging Theodore Bundy.
843
00:48:35,245 --> 00:48:39,041
Katsaris in his black suit,
and his cowboy�boots on.
844
00:48:39,499 --> 00:48:42,586
It was part political theater,
part crime drama.
845
00:48:43,086 --> 00:48:45,923
Said killing was perpetrated
by said Theodore Robert Bundy
846
00:48:46,006 --> 00:48:50,636
from or with a premeditated design
or attempt to affect the death
847
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,597
-of said Lisa Levy...
-My chance to talk to the press.
848
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,600
...contrary to section 780-204
Florida statutes.
849
00:48:56,683 --> 00:48:58,185
I'll plead not guilty right now.
850
00:48:58,268 --> 00:49:01,146
And your grand jurors being present
in said court further gives the court
851
00:49:01,229 --> 00:49:03,023
to be informed and understand
that Theodore Bundy
852
00:49:03,106 --> 00:49:06,318
-on the 15th day of January--
-Can I talk to the press when you're done?
853
00:49:06,401 --> 00:49:09,571
did then and there unlawfully attempt
to kill a human being to wit...
854
00:49:09,655 --> 00:49:13,075
[Bundy] It ceased to be an issue
whether or not I was innocent or guilty.
855
00:49:13,575 --> 00:49:15,786
The issue now is, "Can we pin it on him?"
856
00:49:15,869 --> 00:49:19,831
[stuttering] Can we follow through
and maintain our reputation
857
00:49:19,915 --> 00:49:21,583
as law enforcement officers?
858
00:49:22,793 --> 00:49:27,089
The police aren't willing to accept
what I think they know,
859
00:49:27,172 --> 00:49:29,383
and they know that I didn't do
these things.
860
00:49:29,758 --> 00:49:32,386
That is the indictment handed down
by the grand jury.
861
00:49:32,970 --> 00:49:35,138
-Is that my copy?
-No, it is not.
862
00:49:35,222 --> 00:49:37,891
-Do I get a copy?
-We have your copy.�You have the copy?
863
00:49:37,975 --> 00:49:39,017
Can I have a copy?
864
00:49:39,768 --> 00:49:40,811
How about the case?
865
00:49:41,436 --> 00:49:43,397
-You get that.
-Can I talk to the press?
866
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:44,690
I mean, you had your chance.
867
00:49:45,023 --> 00:49:48,318
You've displayed the prisoner,
now I think it's my turn.
868
00:49:49,695 --> 00:49:52,072
I've been kept in isolation
for six months,
869
00:49:52,155 --> 00:49:54,992
I've been kept away from the press,
I've been buried by you,
870
00:49:55,075 --> 00:49:58,370
you've been talking for six months,
I think it's my turn now.
871
00:49:58,912 --> 00:49:59,871
All right?
872
00:50:00,330 --> 00:50:02,749
We got a court order that there won't
be any press interviews.
873
00:50:02,833 --> 00:50:05,210
Sure there won't be any press interviews.
You've given them up.
874
00:50:05,293 --> 00:50:06,920
I-- I'm gagged, you're not.
875
00:50:07,004 --> 00:50:07,921
All right.
876
00:50:08,005 --> 00:50:09,047
I'll be heard.
877
00:50:13,048 --> 00:50:18,048
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