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You wanna give me a word?
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You want, you want,
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You wanna have me
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Give you one word
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That describes natalia to me?
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Enigma.
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She won't tell us
the truth in who she is.
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We are living with
a con artist sociopath.
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Now a story
making headlines
around the world.
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Is this a child
or a grown woman?
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The barnetts
believe the adoption
was a scam all along.
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They claim they were tricked
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Into adopting an adult.
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She's evil.
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I promise you,
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Within five years,
someone's dead.
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What is it?
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Why?
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She threatened
to stab my sons,
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Drag their bodies outside
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And bury them under the deck.
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She tried to poison
and kill my wife.
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Bye-Bye!
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She said, "i pulled a knife
on my parents. Big deal."
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It's like a serial killer
or something.
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It's how casually
they put attempted murder
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Into a conversation.
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She was gonna kill everybody.
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You've adopted a kid and now
they're trying to kill you.
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I mean, it's the stuff
of a horror movie, right?
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If you watch the orphan,
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It's just like the orphan.
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She was an adult.
You could tell
by looking at her.
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Natalia was a victim.
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The barnetts
are the predators.
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They just literally
left her to the wolves.
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I don't know that there's
100% one villain here.
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Kristine basically said that
natalia destroyed their lives.
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Irregardless of her age,
she was left
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Feeling abandoned
and neglected, alone.
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Natalia was a child.
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I know that for sure
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Because i'm a little person.
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I think
kristine barnett
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Is a sorry excuse
for a mother.
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When i found out
what happened to her,
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That was what
broke my heart the most.
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There were a lot of secrets
in that house.
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His minimum sentence
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Is three to 16 years.
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It doesn't smell right.
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There's something wrong.
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It smells like.
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Do you know the difference
between the truth and a lie?
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- I didn't at the time, no.
- Oh, you didn't know.
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I was just listening to what
kristine told me to tell them.
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You just don't know
the true barnetts.
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There was
domestic violence.
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They'll do anything
to get what they want.
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There were all these
pieces to a puzzle
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That we couldn't
quite put together.
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You're saying you lie
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- Because she told you to lie.
- Yes.
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Michael and kristine
not only lied
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To get her into their family,
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But they also lied
to get rid of her.
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This is one of the most
twisted cases ever.
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I know
he's not the kinda guy
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That could do well
if he had to go to prison.
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You got a seatbelt? Buckle up.
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I don't think
anyone will ever get
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The complete truth.
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So much of this
is a mystery.
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[man 1] i still don't have
concrete answers.
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[man 2] somebody's not
telling the truth.
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It is a web of lies.
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I'm not sure you can
trust anybody in this case.
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We were all abused!
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We were all abused!
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I'm so scared.
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This will
never stop.
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I hope i don't
overstate this
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And make it seem a little bit
too normal rockwell,
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American, uh, life,
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But life was fantastic.
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It really was.
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This was summer 2010.
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Life's great.
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We'd been married
for about 15 years.
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We have three sons,
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Jacob, wesley and ethan.
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Financially,
we're doing great.
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We've got a literal
brand new mcmansion,
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5,000-Square-Foot home
in a prestigious town
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And a driveway
loaded with cars in it.
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There's a lamborghini in
my driveway, for god's sakes.
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We have 13 tvs.
We've got 14 couches.
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There was hundreds
of thousands of dollars
in the bank account.
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More importantly, we were
a very tight-Knit family.
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It really was
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The pinnacle of life.
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Michael
loved kristine dearly.
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When the flowers came
for their anniversary,
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It was a dozen roses for
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Every year they were married.
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So, for their
10th anniversary,
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10 dozen roses.
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Kristine and i,
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We could do anything together.
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And when we realized
our oldest son jacob
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Has asperger's, or autism,
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We fought those fights.
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We were downright amazing
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At the things
we could accomplish.
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I'm jacob barnett
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Here with an introduction
to scientific notation.
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I figured that,
since i was teaching it
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To my two brothers,
wesley and ethan,
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I would be able
to post it onto youtube.
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Okay, so i'm going to
finish this integral.
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D by dx.
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Their oldest son
is a genius
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And was moving
through schooling
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Faster than i move
through a pair of shoes.
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I did not come here
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To frighten you all
with quantum mechanics.
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Not yet.
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We would get
a message from michael saying,
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"hey, did you see the paper?
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Jake's on the front page,"
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To, "kristine's
writing a book.
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It's been picked up
by a publisher."
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Cubed, divided by...
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He has
a full scholarship
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At the joint indiana
university-Purdue campus.
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For jake, fun is reciting
from memory
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The infinite series of numbers
known as pi.
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3.1415926535897932384626433...
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Jacob's one of
the smartest people
i've ever heard of.
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They're travelling the world.
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Jacob, when he was 15,
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Got an award from the vatican.
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This was where
the barnett's lived.
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The garage was, um,
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Where kristine barnett
had her daycare.
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They were all
special-Needs kids.
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The barnett family
opened up a foundation
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A place where parents
and kids with autism
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Could go be with other parents
and kids with autism
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And feel normal.
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We were
proud of them
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And they just seemed
so happy together.
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The barnetts had
the picture-Perfect life
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It seemed.
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So, we went from early 2010
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Were blessed with many things.
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By the time 2014 came around,
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I have 37 cents
in my bank account,
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I have no wife,
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I have no children,
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I have no home,
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I have no job.
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My possessions,
at that moment,
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Was my car
and a backpack of clothing.
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If natalia
never entered our lives,
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I never get divorced.
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They, they're...
They interviewed me
three times
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With a detective
in a bulletproof vest.
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What? What are they
gonna charge you with?
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Kristine, listen—
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I'm... Kristine...
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Kristine, listen.
Listen to my voice.
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I'm done...
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We had no idea
what we were dealing with.
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And tensions were
so incredibly high.
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It was a very rough time,
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Especially for the children.
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I'm jake barnett.
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Since i've last
been seen publicly,
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In some ways,
i think i've regressed.
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I'm, uh, in my dad's
basement right now.
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It's in indiana.
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Usually, i say natalia's
my adopted sister,
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So then, uh,
i guess i would say,
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"i'm jacob. I'm natalia's
adopted brother,"
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But that particular, um,
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Way of introducing myself
is kind of irrelevant
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Because i haven't seen natalia
in, like, a decade.
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I find the situation
incredibly confusing.
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It's like i wanna know
what happened
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And i wanna know
the actual, like, truth
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And everyone's motives,
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But at the same time, um,
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I don't wanna remember that
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And i don't want to, um,
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Have to revisit, um,
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A lot of trauma
from my childhood.
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It's, uh, difficult for me
to piece together
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What happened
with adopting natalia.
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Before natalia, we had been
married for about 15 years.
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It's easily the best
moment in time
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That our marriage ever had.
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We were so happy
and comfortable
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That we had gotten
to the point that, you know,
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We started
talking about, "maybe,
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Maybe there's room here
for somebody else."
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We were gonna adopt
a little girl out of haiti
named gilberta,
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And right before that april,
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Uh, the earthquake hit haiti,
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And suddenly
our hopes were dashed
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Because haiti shut down all
adoptions out of the country.
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So we were ready to adopt,
but we missed our window.
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And then we get this
phone call out of nowhere
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From this adoption agency
in florida
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Called adoption
by shepherd care.
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They say, "hey, we know you.
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We've seen your home study.
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We know that
you have a charity
for special-Needs children,
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You've been doing that
for a decade.
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We think you'd be perfect
for this little girl
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That's gonna be coming to us.
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She's a little person.
She has dwarfism.
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Now, here's the problem.
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You got 24 hours to decide,
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And if you don't
come get her on monday,
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She's going
directly to foster care."
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Kristine and i almost took it
as a sign from above.
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Now we're jumped on a plane,
flying to florida.
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It's exciting.
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When i found out
i was gonna have a sister,
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I was really excited.
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We had some white t-Shirts
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That we painted on saying,
"welcome home, natalia."
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We pull up
in the town,
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And, you know, i'll be honest,
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I was a little taken aback by
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The adoption agency location.
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It was in
a rundown strip mall,
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Maybe on
the wrong side of tracks,
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Little house that's been
converted into offices.
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It didn't look like
an adoption agency at all.
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First thing
i'm saying to my wife is,
"check the address.
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This just doesn't look right.
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We're gonna get a child here?"
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Uh, so we start coming in
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And they sit us
into a little room
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No bigger than
the size of this room
we're in right now,
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And they tell us,
"just wait here."
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Natalia's coming soon."
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And you've gotta understand,
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With it being
a closed adoption,
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The adoption agency
was not willing
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To share any details of her
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Before we came down.
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They gave us
two pictures of her.
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They gave us
a ukrainian-Language
birth certificate.
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Birth certificate
supported six.
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Uh, september, 4th, 2003.
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We were all
excited about that.
260
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My youngest son was six.
261
00:12:29,510 --> 00:12:31,620
He was also born
in the summer of 2003.
262
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We thought this was
gonna be a situation
263
00:12:34,270 --> 00:12:36,960
Where they're going to grow
and develop and be twins.
264
00:12:39,680 --> 00:12:41,790
We're in there for about
an hour by ourselves.
265
00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,380
We sign paperwork
pretty quick.
266
00:12:44,580 --> 00:12:46,170
"sign here, sign here,
sign here."
267
00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,380
We hear the front door open.
268
00:12:50,100 --> 00:12:51,520
"that's gotta be her."
269
00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,270
We start peeking
through the keyhole.
270
00:12:53,470 --> 00:12:55,210
There's a little
itty-Bitty keyhole.
It's a solid door.
271
00:12:55,410 --> 00:12:57,410
And we're looking
and we're looking.
272
00:12:57,610 --> 00:12:59,960
Like,
"oh, can i see her?"
273
00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,340
I was really excited
for her to come home.
274
00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,310
About 20, 30 minutes go by,
275
00:13:05,510 --> 00:13:07,070
And we can see the door open
276
00:13:07,270 --> 00:13:10,100
And we can see
the other family leave.
277
00:13:10,300 --> 00:13:11,900
She was adopted before.
278
00:13:12,100 --> 00:13:13,960
This was her family that
adopted her the first time.
279
00:13:14,680 --> 00:13:15,790
Natalia's left behind.
280
00:13:15,990 --> 00:13:17,060
They had flown in,
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Dropped her off, flew out.
282
00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,380
We never spoke to them
283
00:13:22,580 --> 00:13:24,000
And we are just thinking,
284
00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,240
"how dare these other people
give up on her?"
285
00:13:29,060 --> 00:13:31,070
And we'd been worried
286
00:13:31,270 --> 00:13:33,900
For the last couple of days,
worried sick
287
00:13:34,100 --> 00:13:35,960
That our new daughter's
not gonna like us.
288
00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,170
And the next thing you know,
the door opens,
289
00:13:38,890 --> 00:13:39,900
Natalia's right there,
290
00:13:40,100 --> 00:13:41,410
She comes running in,
291
00:13:41,610 --> 00:13:43,380
She's got this big smile
on her face,
292
00:13:43,580 --> 00:13:45,380
She's happy as can be,
293
00:13:45,580 --> 00:13:48,440
And she's shouting,
"mommy, daddy, mommy, daddy,
mommy, daddy!"
294
00:13:49,790 --> 00:13:51,410
We're overcome
with joy and emotion.
295
00:13:51,610 --> 00:13:52,480
Oh, my gosh.
296
00:13:52,680 --> 00:13:54,070
That day in and of itself,
297
00:13:54,270 --> 00:13:56,100
Without context,
298
00:13:56,300 --> 00:13:58,030
Is one of the five
greatest days of my life.
299
00:14:00,270 --> 00:14:02,170
She was very small.
300
00:14:04,100 --> 00:14:06,680
She had long,
curly brown hair.
301
00:14:08,370 --> 00:14:10,380
She had brown eyes
and pronounced cheeks
302
00:14:10,580 --> 00:14:13,240
That really stood out
when she smiled.
303
00:14:15,270 --> 00:14:16,620
I remember the way that
304
00:14:16,820 --> 00:14:19,480
Her hands are jointed
305
00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,410
As not the same as ours
306
00:14:22,610 --> 00:14:23,790
Because of her dwarfism.
307
00:14:23,990 --> 00:14:25,000
Like, her fingers, like,
308
00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,440
Sort of bent in
a bit like this.
309
00:14:28,410 --> 00:14:31,170
But i was overjoyed
the day that i met her.
310
00:14:33,100 --> 00:14:35,000
The fun times i can remember
with natalia
311
00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,680
Are pretty much
from that first week
where we were in florida.
312
00:14:39,510 --> 00:14:41,960
We went with natalia
to disney world.
313
00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,410
We were all excited
to have her in the family
314
00:14:45,610 --> 00:14:49,340
And natalia seemed happy
to join our family.
315
00:14:50,410 --> 00:14:53,580
If i was a little girl
needing to be adopted
316
00:14:54,100 --> 00:14:56,310
And they came for me,
317
00:14:56,510 --> 00:14:58,790
Heck yeah, jackpot.
318
00:15:01,580 --> 00:15:03,410
So, we get to
the hotel that night,
319
00:15:03,610 --> 00:15:07,340
And kristine's going to give
our brand-New daughter a bath
320
00:15:08,270 --> 00:15:10,440
And i hear a shout
from the bathroom.
321
00:15:13,170 --> 00:15:15,620
This was a,
"i'm not playing around.
322
00:15:15,820 --> 00:15:18,100
Come here right now,
michael," shout.
323
00:15:18,300 --> 00:15:21,000
I get up, i go flying
to the bathroom,
324
00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,240
And the color's almost
gone from her face.
325
00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,690
It's almost like
she's seen a ghost.
326
00:15:26,890 --> 00:15:28,790
She's, she's truly frightened
327
00:15:28,990 --> 00:15:30,790
And she just doesn't know
what she's seeing
328
00:15:30,990 --> 00:15:32,070
And what's going on.
329
00:15:32,270 --> 00:15:34,790
She says,
"michael, michael, look.
330
00:15:35,790 --> 00:15:36,900
Look down."
331
00:15:37,100 --> 00:15:38,790
And natalia
had full pubic hair.
332
00:15:39,790 --> 00:15:43,130
And i don't know
what to think.
333
00:15:44,790 --> 00:15:47,580
"is that possible?
Is that even possible?"
334
00:15:50,370 --> 00:15:51,750
"who the
is this person?"
335
00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,070
"can a 6-Year-Old
have full pubic hair?
I don't know."
336
00:15:59,270 --> 00:16:02,070
Google's telling us,
"well, earliest possible time,
337
00:16:02,270 --> 00:16:04,240
Lowest common
denominator, eight."
338
00:16:05,270 --> 00:16:07,170
So we just go, "okay, look,
our mission,
339
00:16:07,370 --> 00:16:09,000
We were going to show
love and compassion
340
00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:10,690
To somebody that
never had it before.
341
00:16:10,890 --> 00:16:12,440
That doesn't
make a difference."
342
00:16:18,370 --> 00:16:19,830
I'm kathy barnett.
343
00:16:20,030 --> 00:16:21,750
I'm michael barnett's mother.
344
00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,060
I found out
that natalia was coming.
345
00:16:27,170 --> 00:16:29,000
I was so excited
346
00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,070
To treat this child special.
347
00:16:32,270 --> 00:16:33,650
When they brought her home,
348
00:16:33,850 --> 00:16:37,270
They had a very large party
to welcome her.
349
00:16:37,470 --> 00:16:39,650
She was dressed up in a dress.
350
00:16:39,850 --> 00:16:42,380
She had beautiful,
curly, dark hair.
351
00:16:42,580 --> 00:16:44,480
And michael
was euphoric that day.
352
00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,000
He was almost
as euphoric as the day
jacob was born
353
00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,070
And michael came out of
the delivery room.
354
00:16:49,270 --> 00:16:50,650
He was a happy man.
355
00:16:52,100 --> 00:16:54,340
You want that?
There you go. Go sit and chew.
356
00:16:54,860 --> 00:16:56,060
Go show him.
357
00:16:56,860 --> 00:16:58,580
My name's kimberly franklin.
358
00:16:58,780 --> 00:17:01,340
I am michael barnett's
little sister.
359
00:17:01,930 --> 00:17:03,380
When i first met natalia,
360
00:17:03,580 --> 00:17:05,070
I was, you know,
totally prepared.
361
00:17:05,270 --> 00:17:07,270
I knew that she was
a little person.
362
00:17:07,470 --> 00:17:09,270
And what really
struck me, though,
363
00:17:09,470 --> 00:17:11,650
Was that she almost
looked like one of us.
364
00:17:11,850 --> 00:17:12,900
She had the dark hair.
365
00:17:13,100 --> 00:17:14,380
She really looked like
366
00:17:14,580 --> 00:17:16,170
She could've been
my brother's daughter.
367
00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,070
My name's rachel
368
00:17:23,270 --> 00:17:26,270
And i live two doors down
from the barnetts,
369
00:17:26,470 --> 00:17:27,750
Where they used to live.
370
00:17:28,750 --> 00:17:30,900
Nosy neighbor, that's me.
371
00:17:31,100 --> 00:17:33,060
I like to know what's going on
in the neighborhood.
372
00:17:38,750 --> 00:17:40,750
We were friends
with michael and kristine
373
00:17:42,370 --> 00:17:43,750
And our kids played together.
374
00:17:44,580 --> 00:17:46,170
Everybody knew
who natalia was.
375
00:17:46,370 --> 00:17:48,310
I have goosebumps
just thinking about
376
00:17:48,510 --> 00:17:49,830
When they walked in with her.
377
00:17:50,030 --> 00:17:51,550
It was amazing.
378
00:17:52,510 --> 00:17:54,170
It was so uplifting
379
00:17:54,370 --> 00:17:55,900
To know that this little girl
needed a home
380
00:17:56,100 --> 00:17:57,690
And they opened theirs
up to her.
381
00:17:57,890 --> 00:17:59,830
- Hi, natalia.
- Hi!
382
00:18:00,030 --> 00:18:03,380
And kristine was smiling,
you know, ear-To-Ear.
383
00:18:03,580 --> 00:18:06,240
They were so excited.
They have three boys,
and they got a girl.
384
00:18:09,930 --> 00:18:11,830
I was looking forward
to seeing how
385
00:18:12,030 --> 00:18:14,000
She'd react to the park
we had across the street.
386
00:18:19,270 --> 00:18:20,820
Here's their yearbook.
387
00:18:22,750 --> 00:18:24,380
So, there's ethan
388
00:18:24,580 --> 00:18:26,170
And there's grace.
389
00:18:26,370 --> 00:18:27,580
Natalia came
to our house a lot
390
00:18:27,780 --> 00:18:28,900
To play with my daughter grace
391
00:18:29,100 --> 00:18:33,170
Because they were both six.
392
00:18:33,370 --> 00:18:34,650
First grade.
393
00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:36,820
Here's natalia.
394
00:18:39,510 --> 00:18:40,820
It's crazy.
395
00:18:41,510 --> 00:18:43,000
She's so cute in that picture.
396
00:18:43,750 --> 00:18:45,550
She looks like
a sweet little girl.
397
00:18:46,930 --> 00:18:49,070
Once we got back
to indiana,
398
00:18:49,270 --> 00:18:51,520
At first, there was
a lot of acceptance
399
00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:56,000
Of the situation with natalia
and the pubic hair.
400
00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,650
All that mattered was
there's a little girl...
401
00:19:00,750 --> 00:19:03,000
That needs love
and needs a home.
402
00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:06,900
But, uh, eventually,
403
00:19:07,100 --> 00:19:08,900
We had a lot of
escalation going on
404
00:19:09,100 --> 00:19:10,960
In the first few months
that we had her.
405
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,240
There was a day
i came home from work.
406
00:19:15,170 --> 00:19:17,000
Kristine's got a pair
of natalia's underwear.
407
00:19:18,170 --> 00:19:20,930
Kristine asked natalia
to tell me what's going on.
408
00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:26,340
Okay.
409
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,830
And i can remember
her physicalness at the time.
410
00:19:31,030 --> 00:19:32,930
Her hands were just
out in front of her like this.
411
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,480
She said, "well..."
412
00:19:37,170 --> 00:19:39,270
"... I have a period..."
413
00:19:39,470 --> 00:19:42,680
"... And i've been hiding it."
414
00:19:48,930 --> 00:19:50,440
And i...
415
00:19:51,860 --> 00:19:53,960
I just don't know
what's going on right now.
416
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,380
Kris found some socks
417
00:20:00,580 --> 00:20:02,380
That she had used
in her underwear
418
00:20:02,580 --> 00:20:04,000
And threw them out the window.
419
00:20:04,750 --> 00:20:07,520
Kris was just mortified.
420
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,170
She said, "this isn't normal.
What have i gotten
myself into?"
421
00:20:11,370 --> 00:20:14,170
And so i said,
"you need to start finding out
how old she is."
422
00:20:15,620 --> 00:20:18,760
I heard she had pubic hair
when they first got her
423
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,480
And that they found, like,
period underwear
424
00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,070
Hidden in her room.
425
00:20:23,270 --> 00:20:24,690
So that would be
the thing that,
426
00:20:24,890 --> 00:20:26,900
As, you know, not a doctor,
as a layman,
427
00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:29,550
I'd be like, "yeah, that's
definitely not a 6-Year-Old."
428
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,070
- Stand up.
- Okay.
429
00:20:33,270 --> 00:20:34,760
After we'd first
gotten natalia
430
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,170
And we started
taking her to doctors,
431
00:20:36,370 --> 00:20:38,070
Within two months
of getting her,
432
00:20:38,270 --> 00:20:41,380
Natalia needed foot surgery
because of her condition.
433
00:20:41,580 --> 00:20:43,000
Natalia has
a very rare form of dwarfism,
434
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:44,900
Spondyloepiphyseal dysplasia.
435
00:20:45,100 --> 00:20:48,170
There's only about
3,400 people like that
on this planet,
436
00:20:48,370 --> 00:20:50,790
- We were explained by doctors.
- Mmm-Hmm.
437
00:20:50,990 --> 00:20:53,340
It just so happened,
miraculously,
438
00:20:54,270 --> 00:20:55,900
That a doctor knew
439
00:20:56,100 --> 00:20:59,380
Another 6-Year-Old girl with
spondyloepiphyseal dysplasia
440
00:20:59,580 --> 00:21:00,750
Living in indiana.
441
00:21:01,930 --> 00:21:03,170
We were stunned.
442
00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:05,830
We're gonna have her meet
and interact
443
00:21:06,030 --> 00:21:07,930
With somebody just like her.
444
00:21:08,270 --> 00:21:09,900
How great is that?
445
00:21:10,100 --> 00:21:11,750
The other girl comes in
446
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,070
And, for lack of
a better term,
447
00:21:16,270 --> 00:21:17,830
Natalia is gigantic
448
00:21:18,030 --> 00:21:19,750
Compared to this other girl.
449
00:21:24,170 --> 00:21:26,060
Their cranial structures
are different.
450
00:21:27,270 --> 00:21:29,650
Natalia, she's got
the full forehead of an adult,
451
00:21:29,850 --> 00:21:31,960
She's got the fine cheekbones
of an adult.
452
00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:36,680
The other girl, her head
is not developed at all.
453
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,310
There's no way anybody
could look at this picture
454
00:21:39,510 --> 00:21:41,820
And say, "those two
are the same age."
455
00:21:42,930 --> 00:21:45,520
So, when natalia sees
this person
456
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,750
That should be close to
the mirror image of her
457
00:21:48,270 --> 00:21:51,790
And realizes we see it,
458
00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:54,440
Suddenly, she fills
her cheeks with air,
459
00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:56,650
Blows them out a little bit
460
00:21:56,850 --> 00:21:59,270
So the definition in
her cheekbones disappears,
461
00:21:59,470 --> 00:22:03,170
So that starts to happen.
462
00:22:04,100 --> 00:22:07,680
We literally see
her head change.
463
00:22:10,930 --> 00:22:13,580
It's almost like,
"you got me."
464
00:22:22,580 --> 00:22:24,790
My name is elva reyes.
465
00:22:24,990 --> 00:22:26,270
My daughter's name is therese.
466
00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:28,580
Uh, she has
diastrophic dysplasia,
467
00:22:28,780 --> 00:22:30,270
The same as natalia.
468
00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:32,830
I was hoping, you know,
that, uh,
469
00:22:33,030 --> 00:22:35,170
A long friendship, you know,
470
00:22:35,370 --> 00:22:37,070
Where they can grow up and,
471
00:22:37,270 --> 00:22:38,380
You know, she has somebody
472
00:22:38,580 --> 00:22:40,760
To be able
to talk about things.
473
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,170
That mean it's not, you know,
474
00:22:42,370 --> 00:22:44,760
Something that
she has to feel like
475
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,650
She's the only one
in the world.
476
00:22:46,850 --> 00:22:49,830
Uh, but, later on,
when we met for the playday,
477
00:22:50,030 --> 00:22:51,650
Immediately, natalia looks...
478
00:22:51,850 --> 00:22:53,270
Physically, was really
well developed.
479
00:22:53,470 --> 00:22:55,790
My first impression was like,
480
00:22:55,990 --> 00:22:58,790
"your face doesn't
look like a little kid."
481
00:22:58,990 --> 00:23:00,650
Can't really say an adult,
482
00:23:00,850 --> 00:23:02,340
But at least a teenager.
483
00:23:04,890 --> 00:23:07,580
And i say, "huh, so..."
484
00:23:07,780 --> 00:23:10,070
Yes, but... And she was
very vocal, talking,
485
00:23:10,270 --> 00:23:11,340
You know, like,
486
00:23:12,580 --> 00:23:14,270
She can carry
a conversation very well,
487
00:23:14,470 --> 00:23:16,000
Like, didn't have no issue.
488
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,830
I was like,
"wow, they teach her
very good english."
489
00:23:19,030 --> 00:23:21,270
A very smart kid
for a 6-Year-Old.
490
00:23:26,890 --> 00:23:28,480
I am therese
491
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,440
And i am 14 years old.
492
00:23:32,270 --> 00:23:35,240
I was six years old
when i met natalia.
493
00:23:36,580 --> 00:23:38,380
It's pretty rare
to see someone
494
00:23:38,580 --> 00:23:40,170
Who has a disability like me
495
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,480
And i wanted to be friends.
496
00:23:53,860 --> 00:23:55,860
- I have
a picture of you guys.
- Mmm-Hmm.
497
00:23:58,410 --> 00:23:59,650
Sure.
498
00:24:04,100 --> 00:24:07,380
Definitely, i don't think she
looked the same age as me.
499
00:24:07,580 --> 00:24:10,310
I definitely had that
baby look to my face and,
500
00:24:10,510 --> 00:24:13,480
As she kinda gave me, like,
501
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,650
An older kinda face
look to it,
502
00:24:16,850 --> 00:24:17,930
But, yeah.
503
00:24:22,890 --> 00:24:24,380
I think she
definitely looks like
504
00:24:24,580 --> 00:24:28,960
She's at least 18, 20-Ish.
505
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,830
It definitely looks weird
to think that
506
00:24:34,030 --> 00:24:36,650
I was playing with,
actually, an adult,
507
00:24:36,850 --> 00:24:38,580
Not a kid my age
508
00:24:38,780 --> 00:24:40,650
That i would feel
comfortable with.
509
00:24:41,860 --> 00:24:44,000
If she faked her age,
510
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,270
I feel like that's weird
to think that
511
00:24:46,470 --> 00:24:48,580
I was around someone
who did that.
512
00:24:51,930 --> 00:24:53,170
She's not six.
513
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,060
We had no idea
what we were dealing with.
514
00:24:57,170 --> 00:24:59,270
To them,
it would've looked like
515
00:24:59,470 --> 00:25:00,900
They brought their little girl
516
00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:02,820
To a playdate with a grownup.
517
00:25:04,750 --> 00:25:07,680
And they never
reached back out again.
518
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,900
Natalia told us
very little about her time
519
00:25:21,100 --> 00:25:22,650
Growing up in the ukraine,
520
00:25:23,170 --> 00:25:25,310
Her time in the orphanage.
521
00:25:26,860 --> 00:25:29,480
I don't recall her having
522
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,270
Any belongings
from the orphanage.
523
00:25:31,470 --> 00:25:35,380
Like, uh, i don't recall her
having any ukrainian toys.
524
00:25:35,580 --> 00:25:37,860
She didn't seem to know
very much about ukraine.
525
00:25:38,060 --> 00:25:40,860
Like, uh, at one point, early,
we asked her, like,
526
00:25:41,060 --> 00:25:42,860
"oh, what's it like
in ukraine?"
527
00:25:43,060 --> 00:25:45,000
And she said, "oh,
it's always summer there."
and i'm like...
528
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,140
"hmm, okay, uh..."
529
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,440
I forget the part that
you guys never hear.
530
00:26:00,580 --> 00:26:02,030
Yeah. Heard.
531
00:26:06,030 --> 00:26:07,380
We adopted natalia
532
00:26:07,580 --> 00:26:09,860
Because we wanted
to help somebody
533
00:26:10,060 --> 00:26:13,650
Who was in danger
of never being loved.
534
00:26:15,270 --> 00:26:18,170
But every time we ever
spoke to natalia about,
535
00:26:18,370 --> 00:26:20,380
"hey, tell us
about the orphanage,
536
00:26:20,580 --> 00:26:22,200
Tell us about
people you've known,"
537
00:26:24,370 --> 00:26:25,620
Nothing.
538
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,030
So we had asked her about
the ukrainian language before.
539
00:26:29,230 --> 00:26:30,900
As a matter of fact,
at the rec center
540
00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:33,790
Where we had our sports league
for the autistic kids,
541
00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:35,380
One of the neighboring tenants
542
00:26:35,580 --> 00:26:36,790
Happens to know somebody
543
00:26:36,990 --> 00:26:39,440
Who was born and raised
in the ukraine.
544
00:26:40,860 --> 00:26:43,030
We thought, "how wonderful
would it be
545
00:26:43,230 --> 00:26:45,580
For you to hear
your native language,
your native tongue
546
00:26:45,780 --> 00:26:48,480
For the first time
in a couple of years?"
547
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,100
The woman from the ukraine
comes in
548
00:26:51,130 --> 00:26:54,200
And just immediately starts
speaking ukrainian.
549
00:26:56,340 --> 00:26:57,900
I swear on all things holy,
550
00:26:58,100 --> 00:27:00,930
Natalia's never heard a word
of ukrainian in her life.
551
00:27:01,580 --> 00:27:03,960
But you were there
until almost five
552
00:27:05,270 --> 00:27:07,860
And we've got you at six.
553
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,820
There was like a set of things
that didn't add up.
554
00:27:14,130 --> 00:27:18,000
We starter...
Started early in the morning.
555
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,690
Natalia had no accent.
556
00:27:20,890 --> 00:27:24,270
Were going close.
557
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:26,550
She didn't know
the cyrillic alphabet.
558
00:27:27,130 --> 00:27:29,030
She knew no ukrainian.
559
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,750
Ukrainian lady
starts speaking ukrainian
to natalia.
560
00:27:34,370 --> 00:27:35,550
Not a word.
561
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,960
I think she knew,
if she spoke immediately,
562
00:27:39,580 --> 00:27:40,930
That we'd put
two and two together
563
00:27:41,130 --> 00:27:43,930
And hear there's no accent.
564
00:27:44,130 --> 00:27:46,000
She doesn't know this.
565
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,820
Didn't speak a word
for four days.
566
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,930
It's almost like
the jig is up,
567
00:27:52,130 --> 00:27:54,960
The little playful
kid face goes away
568
00:27:55,580 --> 00:27:56,820
And now we've got...
569
00:28:01,790 --> 00:28:03,310
We don't know who she is.
570
00:28:04,370 --> 00:28:06,270
We don't know
where she's really from.
571
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:08,480
For all i know, she had been
living in the ukraine
for 20 years
572
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,900
And found a way out.
573
00:28:10,100 --> 00:28:11,790
For all i know,
she's an american citizen
574
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:14,030
That somehow
got this to happen.
575
00:28:14,230 --> 00:28:17,440
I truly, truly don't know.
576
00:28:26,580 --> 00:28:30,580
The dynamic between natalia
and the rest of the family
seemed to shift.
577
00:28:30,780 --> 00:28:33,860
Pretty early,
there was a lack of trust.
578
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,650
Uh...
579
00:28:36,790 --> 00:28:39,200
So that, you know, compounded.
580
00:28:48,270 --> 00:28:51,960
Natalia did have
behavioral issues which...
581
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,550
Certainly, the adoption
process, um,
582
00:28:57,370 --> 00:28:58,860
It must be traumatic.
583
00:28:59,060 --> 00:29:00,480
I mean, abandonment issues
are a thing
584
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:05,000
And natalia was abandoned
multiple times.
585
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,140
She was with
another family in america
586
00:29:08,340 --> 00:29:09,550
Before she came with us.
587
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,240
Natalia was with us
four months,
588
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,650
And that's when we start
to witness her dark side.
589
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,760
We had a 2007 jeep commander.
590
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,000
It has three rows of seats.
591
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,580
But natalia always tried
592
00:29:25,780 --> 00:29:27,580
To sit next to my youngest,
the smallest,
593
00:29:27,780 --> 00:29:29,480
My 6-Year-Old, ethan.
594
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,690
And she would do
whatever she could
to upset him.
595
00:29:33,890 --> 00:29:37,580
She would purposely wait
until she was next to him
in the car
596
00:29:37,780 --> 00:29:40,410
And then she would do her best
to urinate on him.
597
00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:42,580
She would defecate in the car
598
00:29:42,780 --> 00:29:44,000
And put her hand into it
599
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,690
And try to smear it on ethan.
600
00:29:45,890 --> 00:29:48,690
Yeah, it was
a frequent occurrence
601
00:29:48,890 --> 00:29:52,000
For natalia to soil surfaces
602
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,750
That she wasn't supposed to.
603
00:30:00,370 --> 00:30:02,930
That was the life
my 6-Year-Old son had.
604
00:30:03,130 --> 00:30:07,000
To get into the car
was like going through
the haunted house.
605
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:10,930
And, you know, another thing,
606
00:30:11,130 --> 00:30:12,380
If we went someplace in public
607
00:30:12,580 --> 00:30:14,380
And she made eye contact
with somebody
608
00:30:14,580 --> 00:30:16,000
We'd climb into the car,
609
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,270
She would get into the car,
she'd get in her seat,
610
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:20,140
She'd close the door.
611
00:30:20,340 --> 00:30:22,690
As soon as i would start
to get into my seat
612
00:30:22,890 --> 00:30:24,580
And the car
would get into gear,
613
00:30:24,780 --> 00:30:27,380
Doors open
and she's throwing herself
out of the vehicle
614
00:30:27,580 --> 00:30:29,440
So people around her can see.
615
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,270
The idea, "look, a poor,
helpless little girl."
616
00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:38,140
And she was trying to get back
617
00:30:38,340 --> 00:30:40,550
To poor,
helpless little girl status.
618
00:30:43,370 --> 00:30:45,580
She was doing
as many things as possible
619
00:30:45,780 --> 00:30:47,930
To cause hurt of harm
620
00:30:48,130 --> 00:30:50,380
Or mental distress
to the entire family.
621
00:30:50,580 --> 00:30:53,580
She's been with us
for about five or six months
at this point,
622
00:30:53,780 --> 00:30:56,650
And at this time,
my boys are six, nine and 11.
623
00:30:57,790 --> 00:31:01,690
Natalia would find things
that were important to them,
624
00:31:01,890 --> 00:31:03,380
Like a hot wheel car,
625
00:31:03,580 --> 00:31:06,790
She'd hide them,
she'd wait to be
crossing the street,
626
00:31:06,990 --> 00:31:09,440
She would throw 'em
into the street
and make sure the boys saw it.
627
00:31:09,890 --> 00:31:11,930
She was baiting my kids
628
00:31:12,130 --> 00:31:14,170
To run into traffic
so they'd get run over.
629
00:31:16,580 --> 00:31:18,000
I can't put into words
630
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,480
The everyday abject horror
631
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,200
That we had to go through
and live with.
632
00:31:26,030 --> 00:31:28,240
And there certainly
was, like, a lot of fear.
633
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,550
Like, "what if natalia
actually harms one of us?"
634
00:31:37,790 --> 00:31:41,650
Couple of weeks after that,
i came home from work.
635
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,480
She had been taking knives
out of the kitchen
636
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,820
And hiding them in her room
under her bed.
637
00:31:49,170 --> 00:31:50,760
I go upstairs.
638
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,380
Kristine has the knife.
639
00:31:52,580 --> 00:31:54,550
It was a big butcher knife.
640
00:31:56,860 --> 00:31:59,790
Natalia was hoarding
knives in her room
641
00:31:59,990 --> 00:32:02,030
And had, like,
intentions to attack us.
642
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,410
I asked natalia,
"natalia,
643
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,000
Did you have this
under your bed?"
644
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:11,650
"yes."
645
00:32:14,170 --> 00:32:15,750
"what were you
gonna do with it?"
646
00:32:17,030 --> 00:32:19,820
"i'm going to kill you
in your sleep."
647
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,790
Michael and kristine
weren't very vocal
648
00:32:33,990 --> 00:32:37,030
About this stuff at first
with natalia
649
00:32:37,790 --> 00:32:40,620
Until it got overwhelming,
650
00:32:41,370 --> 00:32:44,790
And that's when kristine
came and told me
651
00:32:44,990 --> 00:32:46,650
And sat down on my front porch
652
00:32:47,580 --> 00:32:48,960
With wesley and ethan
653
00:32:49,580 --> 00:32:51,750
And shared what was going on.
654
00:32:53,370 --> 00:32:54,690
Kristine was crying.
655
00:32:54,890 --> 00:32:56,070
She was very upset,
656
00:32:56,270 --> 00:32:58,960
Saying that natalia wasn't
657
00:33:00,060 --> 00:33:02,240
Who they thought she was.
658
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,450
And i said,
"well, what do you mean?"
659
00:33:05,650 --> 00:33:06,690
And she said...
660
00:33:09,340 --> 00:33:10,750
"knives."
661
00:33:11,890 --> 00:33:13,240
She had knives in her room.
662
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:16,960
The boys were like,
"yeah. Yeah.
663
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,380
This is really
happening. Yeah.
664
00:33:19,580 --> 00:33:21,240
This is... Natalia's
really doing that,"
665
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,750
This is the time when
i backed away from them
666
00:33:25,370 --> 00:33:28,690
Because i was just
in so much shock
667
00:33:28,890 --> 00:33:30,340
From hearing this story.
668
00:33:30,540 --> 00:33:33,450
I went to grace and said,
669
00:33:33,650 --> 00:33:35,900
"you know what?
We need to find some new
friends to play with,"
670
00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:38,410
'cause i didn't wanna have
anything to do with
that little girl.
671
00:33:39,890 --> 00:33:41,650
I didn't wanna have
anything to do with her.
672
00:33:42,270 --> 00:33:44,240
She wasn't welcome
in our house.
673
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,340
I didn't want her to try
killing my daughter or me.
674
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,240
Michael really
only told me
675
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,690
By the time they'd
gone through all these things
676
00:34:00,890 --> 00:34:02,750
That he was afraid.
677
00:34:03,790 --> 00:34:05,030
Whether that meant he was
678
00:34:05,230 --> 00:34:08,340
Afraid of what
she would do or could do,
679
00:34:08,540 --> 00:34:09,790
Or any of that,
680
00:34:09,990 --> 00:34:12,030
I knew that there was fear.
681
00:34:14,170 --> 00:34:16,900
Absolutely,
we reached out
to the adoption agency
682
00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:20,130
As we were noticing
all of these issues
and irregularities.
683
00:34:21,170 --> 00:34:22,410
They were unhelpful.
684
00:34:23,890 --> 00:34:25,270
I was lost.
685
00:34:25,470 --> 00:34:27,580
I was getting no help
from anybody anywhere.
686
00:34:27,780 --> 00:34:29,960
So we went through
a few therapists,
687
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,580
Trying to find guidance,
688
00:34:31,780 --> 00:34:33,410
Trying to figure out
the right diagnosis.
689
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,410
Go inside.
690
00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:39,790
It was really
the third or fourth
therapist we got to
691
00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:43,960
That seemed to understand
what we were telling them
692
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,480
And seemed to have
natalia's number.
693
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,750
She pulled kristine
and i aside and said,
694
00:34:49,270 --> 00:34:51,510
"you're all in
extreme danger."
695
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,130
At that point in time,
we already knew that.
696
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,440
We had been living that.
697
00:34:58,580 --> 00:35:01,930
So we were not stunned
at the danger,
698
00:35:02,130 --> 00:35:03,650
But we were stunned
at the diagnosis.
699
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,240
We were expecting
a severe mental disorder
700
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,690
That was out of her control.
701
00:35:08,890 --> 00:35:10,340
We were
expecting schizophrenia.
702
00:35:10,890 --> 00:35:12,340
We were expecting something.
703
00:35:12,540 --> 00:35:14,380
We were expecting her to say,
"she hears voices.
704
00:35:14,580 --> 00:35:17,240
She's hearing commands
telling her to do this stuff."
705
00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:20,750
So she tells us,
"she's a sociopath.
706
00:35:25,790 --> 00:35:28,510
She does things that you and i
would consider crazy.
707
00:35:29,370 --> 00:35:30,690
But it's a plan.
708
00:35:30,890 --> 00:35:31,930
She knows what she's doing.
709
00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:33,960
She's in control of doing it.
710
00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:37,580
It's not a diagnosis
where she's out of control
711
00:35:37,780 --> 00:35:38,930
And she can really be helped.
712
00:35:39,130 --> 00:35:41,340
She's a sociopath."
713
00:35:43,170 --> 00:35:45,620
That was the first moment from
a clinician that we heard,
714
00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:48,690
"you can't help here."
715
00:35:48,890 --> 00:35:50,960
You're 12 years old
and you're...
716
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,690
You know,
just down the hallway is,
717
00:35:52,890 --> 00:35:54,140
Is someone
who's living with you
718
00:35:54,340 --> 00:35:55,790
Who actively wants
to harm you. That's very,
719
00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:58,960
That's a very scary feeling.
720
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,200
And i definitely didn't
feel safe around natalia.
721
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,410
I just was scared.
722
00:36:11,060 --> 00:36:12,510
There was one night,
723
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,200
About two o'clock
in the morning,
724
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,960
We hear a noise.
725
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,140
Kristine nudges me
and wakes me up.
726
00:36:21,340 --> 00:36:23,380
And i jump up,
i go looking for the noise,
727
00:36:23,580 --> 00:36:25,900
Can't find it here,
i can't find it there,
728
00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:28,510
I go down the hall
to natalia's room,
open the door.
729
00:36:31,270 --> 00:36:32,510
It's dark.
730
00:36:34,060 --> 00:36:36,550
She's standing dead-Center
in the middle of the room
731
00:36:37,790 --> 00:36:39,900
With a blank look on her face.
732
00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:42,860
"natalia, what are you doing?"
733
00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:46,510
"i'm waiting."
734
00:36:49,890 --> 00:36:51,410
"waiting for what?"
735
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:54,860
"for you to go to sleep."
736
00:37:00,580 --> 00:37:01,790
It was absolutely shocking
737
00:37:01,990 --> 00:37:06,340
To hear that an adopted child
738
00:37:06,540 --> 00:37:10,480
Was threatening
the lives of her siblings
and her parents.
739
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,860
I mean, it was really
disturbing to hear.
740
00:37:16,370 --> 00:37:19,790
One night,
asleep in bed,
everything's fine,
741
00:37:19,990 --> 00:37:22,170
I hear a little noise,
i open my eyes,
742
00:37:22,370 --> 00:37:24,510
And natalia's standing
at the foot of the bed
743
00:37:25,170 --> 00:37:26,620
With a knife in her hand.
744
00:37:29,340 --> 00:37:30,960
What's going on?
745
00:37:31,790 --> 00:37:34,440
How much danger
are we really in here?
746
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,240
Was i about to die?
What kristine about to die?
747
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,100
Were my kids about to die?
748
00:37:44,580 --> 00:37:46,000
I open my eyes,
749
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,820
And natalia's standing
at the foot of the bed
750
00:37:49,370 --> 00:37:50,620
With a knife in her hand.
751
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,900
No idea what she's thinking.
752
00:37:54,100 --> 00:37:55,960
No idea what's
going through her head.
753
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,440
I'm frozen.
754
00:38:00,270 --> 00:38:03,410
"natalia, what are you doing?"
755
00:38:04,580 --> 00:38:05,720
"nothing."
756
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,340
"why are you in here?"
757
00:38:10,650 --> 00:38:11,760
"i don't know."
758
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,510
There's just this blank look.
759
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:16,550
There's no emotion.
760
00:38:16,750 --> 00:38:18,900
There's no feeling
going through her.
761
00:38:19,100 --> 00:38:20,440
It's just this blankness.
762
00:38:21,340 --> 00:38:22,930
"i don't know
what i'm doing here."
763
00:38:23,650 --> 00:38:25,440
"natalia, put that down
right now."
764
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,240
And she did.
765
00:38:28,170 --> 00:38:29,790
"natalia, go to your room
right now."
766
00:38:29,990 --> 00:38:31,310
And she did.
767
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,340
But, obviously,
i sat outside her door
for the rest of the night
768
00:38:38,060 --> 00:38:40,170
To make sure
she didn't come out,
769
00:38:40,370 --> 00:38:41,960
She didn't emerge,
something didn't happen.
770
00:38:48,650 --> 00:38:49,960
Knowing that,
771
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,060
That somebody like natalia
772
00:38:54,060 --> 00:38:56,270
Was living two doors down
from me
773
00:38:56,470 --> 00:38:59,820
And has, supposedly,
774
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,170
Tried to kill her family,
775
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,270
Thinking that there's a killer
in my neighborhood
776
00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:08,440
Is mind-Blowing,
777
00:39:09,170 --> 00:39:10,510
Just mind-Blowing.
778
00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:12,820
You think you know everybody.
779
00:39:13,890 --> 00:39:16,070
You've lived here for so long.
780
00:39:16,270 --> 00:39:19,340
You don't know everybody.
You don't know anybody.
You don't know anything.
781
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:24,340
But it's scary.
It's very scary.
782
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,310
So, we start
going through lots of therapy.
783
00:39:30,860 --> 00:39:33,450
The cat was so heavy,
784
00:39:33,650 --> 00:39:36,580
I couldn't even lift it.
785
00:39:36,780 --> 00:39:38,960
You start going
through plausible deniability.
786
00:39:39,650 --> 00:39:41,550
You start to try
to convince yourself
787
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,340
She wasn't meaning to harm us.
788
00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:46,790
This might seem strange.
789
00:39:46,990 --> 00:39:49,580
We never, ever
790
00:39:49,780 --> 00:39:51,000
Said, "let's take her back."
791
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,650
We thought
we could help things.
792
00:39:52,850 --> 00:39:54,310
We thought
we could improve things.
793
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,240
We wake up one morning and
natalia is suddenly in happy,
794
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,760
"i wanna be part of
the family" mode again.
795
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,900
And she asks kristine,
"is there anything
i can do to help?
796
00:40:11,100 --> 00:40:13,170
You're doing the dishes.
Can i help do the dishes?"
797
00:40:14,170 --> 00:40:17,000
So kristine says, "sure.
I'd really appreciate that.
798
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,340
Thank you, natalia."
799
00:40:18,890 --> 00:40:20,450
So natalia gets on a stool
800
00:40:20,650 --> 00:40:23,270
And starts rinsing
the dishes off in the sink.
801
00:40:23,470 --> 00:40:25,070
Kristine goes to the other
room for a moment
802
00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:28,060
And she's got a coffee cup
sitting on the counter.
803
00:40:28,890 --> 00:40:30,440
Kristine comes back in.
804
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:34,060
Kristine screams.
805
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,130
I come racing downstairs.
806
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:39,790
I see a bottle of pledge.
807
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:41,450
I see kristine's coffee cup,
808
00:40:41,650 --> 00:40:43,000
And kristine tried to drink it
809
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,130
And instantly tasted pledge.
810
00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:50,130
Cleaning supplies
had been poured into
kristine's coffee cup.
811
00:40:50,890 --> 00:40:53,270
Kristine is screaming at her,
812
00:40:53,470 --> 00:40:55,410
"natalia, why did you
do this?"
813
00:40:58,270 --> 00:41:00,790
And she just says,
plain old, straight out,
814
00:41:00,990 --> 00:41:02,930
"i'm trying to kill you.
I'm trying to poison you."
815
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,930
Yeah, i certainly have that,
uh, instinct now, like, uh,
816
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,760
I can't really
share a drink with someone
817
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,240
Unless i've, you know,
818
00:41:16,100 --> 00:41:19,140
Seen the surface of it
the entire time.
819
00:41:19,340 --> 00:41:22,650
Well, it's probably
rooted in this fear
820
00:41:22,850 --> 00:41:26,060
That natalia's coming to,
821
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,030
Like, poison us.
822
00:41:31,860 --> 00:41:34,550
I guess i haven't really
figured out a way
to reconcile it,
823
00:41:34,750 --> 00:41:36,380
If i'm being honest.
824
00:41:36,580 --> 00:41:37,930
I'm still working through it.
825
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,410
I think i might need a minute.
I'm sorry.
826
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,750
Natalia,
what are you doing?
827
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:56,720
What is it?
828
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:00,620
Why?
829
00:42:02,860 --> 00:42:04,170
Like what thoughts?
830
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,370
What happens
when you have them?
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