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(eerie music)
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- [Johnny Carson] Would you
welcome, please, Dr. Carl Sagan.
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Well what's new in space, Carl?
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- [Carl Sagan] Think
of a civilization
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on a different
planet evolved under
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quite different
circumstances than here.
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What is their art
like, their music?
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Think of how we'd be able to
view ourselves in a new way.
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There's another aspect
to it, too, and that is
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we are at a very dangerous
moment in human history.
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We're in the process
of inadvertently
altering our climate
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and exhaustion of fossil
fuels, all kinds of problems
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which come with technology.
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- [Johnny Carson] Is it true
that all television radio shows
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that are sent out travel
forever through the void?
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- [Carl Sagan] Yep, they do,
signals that are sent out,
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including this program.
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(overlapping voices)
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- [Meteorologist] Here's a
look at our seven-day forecast
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for the beaches, the
valleys, and the metro area.
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Take a look at that, 70s, 80s,
and valleys next weekend...
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- [Martha] I would come to
your home every single week,
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to teach you how to cook.
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- [Television Host]
Ladies and gentlemen,
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please welcome our
next bachelor, Peter!
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(car horns honking)
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- [Reporter] Argue that a
lack of genetic diversity,
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naturally occurring
pests and the rigors of
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being trucked from crop to crop
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could all be to blame
for the death of bees.
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(music, helicopter whirring)
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- [Reporter 2] The Brazilian
government decided that
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saving a rainforest
should take a back seat
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to their economic development.
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- [Reporter 3] Marches
occurred one week
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after the earth day
marches for science,
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which has demanded respect for
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fact-based, scientific research.
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- [Chairman Smith] The
Committee on Science,
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Space and Technology
will come to order.
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Welcome to today's
hearing titled
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"The Search for Biosignatures
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in our Solar System and beyond."
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(gavel)
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- Do you think there's
life out there?
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(laughing)
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And are they studying us and
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what do they think
about New York City?
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(laughing)
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- Well, let me just say that
in our own Milky Way Galaxy
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there are a hundred billion
stars and we now believe
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in our universe
we have more than
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a hundred billion galaxies.
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So if you just do the math, the
chance that there's a planet
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like earth out there with
life on it is very high.
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- I just want you to speculate.
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Do you think, in what
timeframe might we
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expect to find some
evidence of, say,
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microbial life elsewhere
in the universe?
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- I always like
to start by saying
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scientists never
like to speculate.
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(laughing)
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We always like facts.
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- [Chairman Smith]
But they always do.
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But we always do, correct.
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So we now finally know that
exoplanets exist and are common
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but on the other side
lies the possibility
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to find the true earths
with signs of life.
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The point I want to make
is this is the first time
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in human history we have
the technological reach
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to cross the great threshold
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with the James Webb
Space Telescope.
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- Most optimistic, then,
next 5 to 10 years?
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- Yes, the most optimistic
is within a decade.
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- [Chairman Smith] Okay.
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- [Technician] Slow
down, slow down.
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- [Technician 2]
Slow down, slow.
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- [Technician] Got it.
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Keep pushing.
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- [Technician 2] Good
speed, guys, good speed.
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Someone telling
us where to stop?
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- [Matt Mountain] This is
the largest space telescope
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humanity has ever conceived of.
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We're never done anything this
audacious in space before.
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We have a thousand
people working on this
project right now.
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If it works, it's going
to see deeper into space
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than any other
telescope in history.
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- This is the largest mission,
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non-human space flight
that NASA has ever done.
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- It looks at areas that
the Hubble could never see.
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- The James Webb Space
Telescope certainly is
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the most complex telescope
anyone's ever built.
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- This is a chance
to measure myself
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against one of the
hardest problems
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man has set himself
the goal to do.
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- This is the huge eye in the
sky and it's going to capture
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the very first light
of the universe.
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- [Matt Mountain]
We're going to test it.
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We're going to pack it up
in a rocket, shoot it out
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and we don't know what
we're going to find.
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But the slightest thing
that could go wrong
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could actually mean
this mission could fail.
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(birds chirping)
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- [Nathaniel] So
you've loved astronomy
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since you were a kid, right?
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- Yeah, I got into
it as a child.
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My dad won a cottage
in a crap game.
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The attraction of
going down there
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and having these light
pollution-free skies
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and seeing the summer Milky Way,
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you know, the odd satellite.
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And I was old enough
to be around when
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Neil Armstrong set
foot on the moon.
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- [Nathaniel] That made
a big impression on you?
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- Yeah, that whole space race
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and the fact that we
stepped on another planet.
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That we left this
earth and all that.
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Yeah, it left a huge
impression on me.
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- [Nathaniel] How do you think
the seeing will be tonight?
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- It's supposed
to clear up later.
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I don't know if the transparency
is going to get any better.
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Hopefully we can see something.
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You know, I think everyone
is intrigued by astronomy
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because it's about
the big questions.
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Where did we come from?
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How did the universe begin?
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Are we alone?
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An amazing thing right now
is that we're on the verge
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of really being able to
answer these questions.
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It's an exciting time.
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- [Johnny Carson] It's
still mind boggling.
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You're involved now
with looking for
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extraterrestrial
intelligence, right?
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How do you go about looking?
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- [Sara Seager] Why do
children learn how to walk?
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I don't know, I
mean, they just do.
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They're driven somehow by
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a force inside of them
that they can't identify.
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I don't know why I'm doing this.
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I just feel compelled
to go forward.
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When I was a small child,
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I went with my dad
on a camping trip.
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It was his first and
last camping trip.
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But fortunately, you
know, he made it happen.
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And I remember waking up
in the middle of the night
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and stepping outside
the tent and I looked up
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and it was my first ever
view of a truly dark sky.
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And I saw so many stars.
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I went, "Wow."
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I had never imagined
that was possible.
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I couldn't even count them.
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And they were so bright.
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And a little later my father
took me to a star party
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and I remember looking at
the moon through a telescope
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and I went, "Wow."
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I couldn't believe that
the moon that I had seen
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so many times actually
had craters on it.
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I saw an unbelievable
amount of detail.
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I just didn't know it existed.
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And at some point I realized,
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I don't know how I had the
foresight at a young age,
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but I thought, "You know I'm
not going to study physics,
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I'm not going to be a doctor
like my father wanted me to be.
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I'm going to apply for
graduate school in astronomy."
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Great.
- It's called Fernando.
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- Wow, I didn't even realize
it was this portable.
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- We're going to move
it into the dark room.
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- [Sara] I started out
working on exoplanets.
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- [Nathaniel] You mean not
Jupiter, Venus, Mars, et cetera?
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- Yes, planets orbiting a
star other than our sun.
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What's so cool is you can
build your own space satellite.
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At the time, people
really didn't
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think that was a good idea.
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People would come
up to me and say,
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"You can talk to my advisor.
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He thinks exoplanets
are nothing.
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You shouldn't be doing
this, he'll tell you."
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Professors would say,
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"Look, I see people
are finding planets.
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I kind of believe
them but we'll never
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be able to study
their atmospheres."
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And when I was on the job
market as a junior faculty
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there was one single
transiting planet known.
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HD-209458B.
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And they'd say, "Look, Sarah,
I get there's this one object.
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I think it's a one object,
one method, success.
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I don't know if this field's
going to go anywhere."
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- Hey!
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(epic music)
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- [Lee Feinberg] The Webb
Telescope is a hundred times
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more powerful than Hubble.
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The telescopes keep
getting bigger because
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the bigger the telescope
the better the resolution.
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You know, we
wouldn't have built a
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telescope this big
unless we needed to.
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And you need to build
a telescope this big
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if you want to look
at the very dimmest,
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most earliest galaxies
in the universe.
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- The James Webb Space Telescope
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is not just a machine
built by engineers
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and scientists to look
out to the universe.
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it's taking humanity
on a journey.
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We're going to enter
a completely new
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part of observational space
where we've never trod before.
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And every time we've
done this as a species
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we've discovered new things.
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- We have just received
the 18 hexagons that
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make up the big
mirror that collects
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the starlight and
focuses it on the camera.
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- [Lee Feinberg] Gold has
very unique properties
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in terms of reflecting
infrared light.
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And this is an
infrared telescope.
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So that's why we choose gold.
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- I think people want us
to build this telescope
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because they want to
know how we got here.
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I want to know how we got here.
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- You know, we started
the James Webb Telescope
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to look at the cosmos
and the early universe
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but we've discovered that
it's so much more powerful.
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that it can do new things.
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And we're seeing teams
of people led by women
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taking that scientific
direction somewhere else.
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Taking it to try and understand,
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could there possibly
be life out there.
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- [Elinor Gates] Do you
have any estimate for
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how many nights you spent
up at the Crocker Dome?
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- [Natalie Batalha] Oh my
gosh, between 2000 and 2003
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we spent so many nights up here.
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And it's quite remote, right?
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- [Ellie] That's the
thing, there's no bathroom.
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- Right
- There's no internet.
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- [Natalie] There were so many
creatures along this path.
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When I started in the late 1990s
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we were trying to
find planets using
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this small telescope
up at Lick Observatory.
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We were using this
new technique.
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It had never been done before.
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And people were very skeptical.
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In fact, the whole thing was
built on a shoestring budget.
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But it was so compelling
to work on a project
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that had the
possibility of detecting
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an Earth-like planet
in the future.
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I do remember this padlock.
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- [Ellie] Yeah.
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- Is it possible to get in?
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- No, unfortunately I don't
have the key right now.
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- Oh.
- I wasn't prepared.
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- All of the instruments
have been taken out, right?
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- Yeah, there's nothing in there
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It's just some empty shelves.
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This is not the astronomer's
ideal weather conditions.
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- [Nathaniel] Isn't
this a way to understand
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why we had to go to space?
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- You know, to find planets,
you need to stare unblinkingly.
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So besides the fact that the
sun gets in our way sometimes,
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we have day, the
weather does too.
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So no observations are
going to be done tonight.
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- [Nathaniel] You
spent a lot of years
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up here at Lick
looking for exoplanets.
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Did you find any?
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- We found hundreds of
periodic dimmings of light,
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but none of them turned
out to be bonafide planets.
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The analogy I'd like to use
is to imagine a skyscraper
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80 stories high
in New York City,
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and you've got all of these
windows and it's nighttime.
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All the windows are illuminated.
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And one person
goes to one window
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and lowers the blinds
by about a centimeter.
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That's the change in brightness
we had to be able to detect.
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- [Sara] In the beginning,
it was a lonely field.
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Very few planets were known.
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Months would go by and not a
new planet would be discovered.
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Nevertheless, I knew the field
would explode and I'd say,
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"Look, I know
there's going to be
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so many planets transiting we're
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not gonna be able
to count them all.
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And they'd be, "No,
I don't believe it."
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And so they didn't believe
it, they didn't hire me.
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And then came Kepler.
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- [Launch Announcer]
Three, two, one, zero.
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And liftoff of the Delta
2 Rocket with Kepler
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on a search for
planets like our own.
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- [Sara] The Kepler
Space Telescope
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monitored one small
section of the sky
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and it found
thousands of planets.
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Another Earth is
undoubtedly out there.
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In our own Milky
Way Galaxy we have
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hundreds of billions of stars.
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Our own universe has hundreds
of billions of galaxies.
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To me personally, it
is definitely there.
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(phone ringing)
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- [Natalia G.] Oh there you are.
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There you are.
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- Good morning everyone,
sorry I'm late.
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- [Natalia G.] Hey, Natalie.
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We have a good group
in the room today.
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- All right.
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Well, the last few
meetings we've had
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one planet candidate
in each batch.
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- [Leader] Yeah.
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- [Sara] We rely on
a few core experts.
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Natalie's one of them.
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- Natalie was one of the
leaders of the Kepler mission.
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- [Sara] Kepler
was so pioneering.
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It opened our eyes
for the first time.
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And TESS is now
just finding objects
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around closer stars and
smaller stars as well.
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- Okay.
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- [Leader] Okay.
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- [Nathaniel] How are you
detecting these exoplanets?
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- Well, nowadays, the
best way to find planets
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is by the transit technique.
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If this represents
our star and this blue
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represents a planet,
if you're lucky,
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the planet will
orbit such that it
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passes in front of the star
as seen from the telescope.
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Then the starlight
drops by a tiny amount.
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Thousands of planets have
been detected this way.
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They range from smaller than
Earth size to Jupiter size.
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- So Aylin showed me
this one yesterday.
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- [Sara] I like this one.
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Look how long the
transit duration is, too.
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- This one also
has century offset.
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- [Sara] We're hoping
to find and identify
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the pool of transiting planets
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in the habitable
zones of small stars.
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Not too hot, not too cold,
but just right for life.
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The Goldilocks zone.
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- [Natalia G.]
Onto the next one.
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- [Natalie] Next
one looks great.
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One system that had two
viable planet candidates
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that were very exciting,
so it was super--
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- [Nathaniel] So you want
to study these candidates
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with the James Webb
Space Telescope?
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- [Sara] Yeah.
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Actually the question
often comes up.
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How much time are we going
to get for exoplanets?
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You know, if we find a rocky
planet with a thin atmosphere
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in the habitable zone of an
M star, do you have any idea
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how much telescope time
we're going to need
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to look at that
planet's atmosphere?
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- [Leader] We have five
more to go, or six.
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- [Natalie G.]
Yeah, let's kill it.
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- [Clara] Given that
our own atmosphere
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contains thousands of gases,
we expect alien atmospheres
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to also contain
thousands of gases.
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And my job is to figure out
how each one of those gases
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interacts with light. And
some molecules, like oxygen,
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we send out into space, life
does, but other things do too.
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Some molecules, like
phosphine, only life
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sends out into the atmosphere.
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And so this is one of the
reasons I'm so fond of it
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because although it's rare,
and actually quite poisonous,
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only life makes it on Earth.
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And so it's an
unequivocal sign of life.
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- [Sara] My generation,
we're betting on
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the fact that nature delivers.
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That life can originate and
evolve anywhere given the chance
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and we're planning
on finding it.
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There's no question.
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(epic music)
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- [Lee] At some point
you build a telescope
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that's too big to
fit in a rocket
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and James Webb would
not fit in a rocket.
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So we had to make
the primary mirror
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into individual segments.
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It's been done on the
ground once or twice but
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doing it in space as a whole
other set of challenges.
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- Is it going to hold, is it
going to keep it strength?
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Is it going to keep its
alignment, will it deploy?
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- This is a worldwide telescope.
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It's the collective
investment from the US
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and the European Space Agency
and the Canadian Space Agency,
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that all these countries
are willing to make,
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to reach the edge
of the universe.
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- [Jon] Separating
from the upper stage.
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Separating.
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We're going to L2.
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- The stakes are tremendous.
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If you think back to Mars
Science Lab, Curiosity.
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That seven minutes of
terror waiting for it
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to get to the surface, we
were all holding our breath.
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I didn't hold it
for seven minutes
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but I held it for a long time
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waiting for that signal
back from the surface.
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In this case we're going
to hold out breaths
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for a couple of weeks,
because that's how long
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it's gonna take to get all those
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deployments out after launch.
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- Adding whatever
Delta V we need.
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- [Matt] There are
over 300 or 400
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different operations that
have to occur in space
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to make this telescope
actually come to life.
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A huge sunshade has to deploy,
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which is the size
of a tennis court.
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At this point, things
get pretty critical
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because now everything
starts to cool quickly.
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- Follow the red
for maximum power.
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- [Matt] So now we've got to
get the telescope unfolded
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before it gets too cold
and the joints freeze up.
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Then we got to get the
instruments started.
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And each one of these things
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has to work
perfectly first time.
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- [Jon] Hello?
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- Hi, how are you?
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- Good.
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- So about the James
Webb, what's new?
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What's the latest going on?
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- [Jon] It's very exciting.
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Lots of things.
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The spacecraft structure is
moving along like gangbusters.
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We're making the
flight membranes.
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Pathfinder is delivered.
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So basically, it's
almost all the balls
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are in the air at this point.
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- Sometimes we hear rumors
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of something that's
not going so well.
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Is there anything like that
that you're worried about,
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you personally, or is
it all under control?
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- There are always
little problems.
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Nothing insurmountable.
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- Yeah.
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- The thing that
keeps me up at night
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and prevents my hair
from growing back
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is the problem we
haven't thought of.
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That failure of imagination.
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Right now we're on schedule
and making flight hardware.
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- Well, it's so
great to hear that
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because the entire
science community,
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you know, in exoplanets,
is ramping up here.
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Everybody's so excited
about the James Webb.
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But I don't know if you realize
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how much they're
counting on this.
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- I'm aware that my
customers are very anxious
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for the Webb Telescope
to get on orbit.
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- Yeah, it's pressure,
but it's also gratefulness
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that all you and your team
and people are working so hard
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to make sure every
last thing works.
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Okay.
- Okay, bye.
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- [Jon] Bye bye.
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- Good, huh?
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That's a great conversation.
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He's like basically the
brains behind the whole thing.
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And you know, sometimes, I
didn't ask him this time,
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but almost every
time I ask him like,
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"Well, what if something
bad happens to you
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and you get hit by a
bus, who's the next guy?"
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(engine revving)
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- [Amy] There's a couple
of race series that
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got started in the
last five years or so.
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My husband and I,
we go on Craigslist,
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look for a really
cheap car and then
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drag it home and
fix it up, race it.
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Being a system engineer
for the Webb Telescope
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I don't really get to touch
a lot of this hardware.
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So working on cars
is pretty satisfying
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because it lets you actually
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put your hands on something.
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I'm not strong enough.
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(laughing)
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- [Amy's husband] Those races
are 14 or 15 hours long.
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And usually we break down
before we get to 14 or 15 hours.
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And the James Webb, it's
a very different problem.
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You know, I mean, James
Webb has to work first time.
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It is too far away
from the Earth.
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Where we're putting
the Webb Telescope
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is a place called L2
and if you think of
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here's the Earth, here's the
sun, L2 is on the other side,
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a million miles
away from the Earth.
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The full moon is
between us and L2.
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That's where James Webb will be.
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It's four times the
distance to the moon.
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(soft piano music)
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- [Astronaut] Oh my God, look
at that picture over there.
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- [Astronaut 2] Hand me a
roll of color quick, will you?
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- [Astronaut] Oh, man.
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- [Astronaut 2] Quick.
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- [Astronaut] I'm
looking for one.
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- [Astronaut 2]
That went from here.
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- [Astronaut] Hey,
I've got it right here.
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- [Astronaut 2] I got it right.
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Oh, I got a beautiful shot.
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You got it?
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- [Nathaniel] 50 years
ago, they say, we went
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looking for the moon
and we found the Earth.
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- [Maggie] Yeah, that's true.
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That picture of the Earth.
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That was really the beginning of
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the modern environmental
movement right there.
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00:22:03,256 --> 00:22:05,890
(water running)
492
00:22:09,662 --> 00:22:12,263
This is one of my
favorite little lakes.
493
00:22:14,533 --> 00:22:18,169
There's an eagle circling
around in front of us.
494
00:22:19,338 --> 00:22:21,204
(birds singing)
495
00:22:21,206 --> 00:22:24,608
In grad school I
asked the question,
496
00:22:24,610 --> 00:22:26,677
"What does the Earth look like
497
00:22:26,679 --> 00:22:29,546
from very far away
when you can't
498
00:22:29,548 --> 00:22:31,615
see the continents
and the oceans?
499
00:22:31,617 --> 00:22:33,951
And can you actually tell that
500
00:22:33,953 --> 00:22:35,720
there is life on that planet?"
501
00:22:37,490 --> 00:22:41,024
So we looked at the moon not
too many days after new moon
502
00:22:41,026 --> 00:22:42,626
when you can just
first start to see
503
00:22:42,628 --> 00:22:45,629
that thinnest crescent
right at sunset.
504
00:22:45,631 --> 00:22:49,100
You'll notice that the
dark part of the moon
505
00:22:49,102 --> 00:22:52,703
is also visible because
the Earth is shining
506
00:22:52,705 --> 00:22:55,772
on that part of
the lunar surface.
507
00:22:55,774 --> 00:22:59,176
So if you take a telescope
and you look at that light,
508
00:22:59,178 --> 00:23:01,578
it's Earth light, all
jumbled up together.
509
00:23:01,580 --> 00:23:06,049
It's the land, it's the ocean,
it's the clouds, the air.
510
00:23:06,051 --> 00:23:08,519
And when you spread that
light out and look at it
511
00:23:08,521 --> 00:23:11,855
you can plainly see
the squiggly line, that
512
00:23:11,857 --> 00:23:16,794
this is a planet that has a
definite clear oxygen line.
513
00:23:16,796 --> 00:23:20,331
And there's definitely carbon
dioxide and there's methane.
514
00:23:20,333 --> 00:23:24,201
Those signals were all
tangled up together
515
00:23:24,203 --> 00:23:27,871
in the colors of the Earth.
516
00:23:27,873 --> 00:23:29,406
And that was what we called
517
00:23:29,408 --> 00:23:32,009
the spectrum of a
habitable planet.
518
00:23:32,011 --> 00:23:35,212
(soft guitar music)
519
00:23:35,214 --> 00:23:39,149
When I first heard
of the search for
520
00:23:39,151 --> 00:23:41,618
extraterrestrial intelligence,
521
00:23:41,620 --> 00:23:44,221
I thought that this was by far
522
00:23:44,223 --> 00:23:47,358
the most interesting thing
to study in all of astronomy.
523
00:23:48,894 --> 00:23:50,761
Finding out that there
are other civilizations
524
00:23:50,763 --> 00:23:54,097
in the observable universe
would be pretty much
525
00:23:54,099 --> 00:23:56,534
right there at the top of
things you could find out.
526
00:23:58,037 --> 00:23:59,503
- [Nathaniel]
You're working with
527
00:23:59,505 --> 00:24:01,238
Jill Tarter and
the SETI Institute?
528
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,375
- [Maggie] Yeah, absolutely,
Jill was the SETI pioneer.
529
00:24:04,377 --> 00:24:07,244
The Search for
Extraterrestrial Intelligence.
530
00:24:07,246 --> 00:24:10,581
I met her shortly after the
movie "Contact" came out
531
00:24:10,583 --> 00:24:12,315
and I had never
heard of Jill before.
532
00:24:12,317 --> 00:24:13,784
I didn't know there
was a connection
533
00:24:13,786 --> 00:24:15,652
between that movie and her.
534
00:24:15,654 --> 00:24:16,853
- [Nathaniel] Yeah,
the Jodie Foster
535
00:24:16,855 --> 00:24:18,655
character is modeled on her.
536
00:24:18,657 --> 00:24:21,826
- [Maggie] Yeah, Jill is
one of my longest mentors.
537
00:24:27,466 --> 00:24:32,002
- When we started, SETI was
considered pretty fringy.
538
00:24:32,004 --> 00:24:33,537
We didn't even
know if there were
539
00:24:33,539 --> 00:24:35,005
any planets beyond
our solar system.
540
00:24:36,809 --> 00:24:40,277
And we spent a lot of time
building up credibility.
541
00:24:40,279 --> 00:24:43,414
Making a distinction
between ourselves
542
00:24:43,416 --> 00:24:45,348
and the folks who report seeing
543
00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:48,118
little green men in
spaceships and being abducted.
544
00:24:49,688 --> 00:24:51,822
I mean, people would
be writing books about
545
00:24:51,824 --> 00:24:53,824
the SETI pioneers
and it would be,
546
00:24:53,826 --> 00:24:56,159
"What's a nice girl like you
doing in a place like this,"
547
00:24:56,161 --> 00:24:57,360
sort of questions.
548
00:24:57,362 --> 00:24:59,296
It was really hard.
549
00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:02,766
- [Nathaniel] Do you think
there is life out there?
550
00:25:02,768 --> 00:25:05,168
- You know, Nathaniel,
whatever I think
551
00:25:05,170 --> 00:25:08,639
about life beyond Earth
doesn't matter a bit.
552
00:25:08,641 --> 00:25:11,909
For millennia, we asked the
priests, the philosophers,
553
00:25:11,911 --> 00:25:15,245
whoever we thought was wise,
what we should believe.
554
00:25:15,247 --> 00:25:17,380
Well, we can now
change that verb
555
00:25:17,382 --> 00:25:19,916
into the verb "to explore."
556
00:25:19,918 --> 00:25:22,385
Anything else is religion and
we're not doing religion here.
557
00:25:22,387 --> 00:25:23,521
We're doing science.
558
00:25:25,258 --> 00:25:27,257
- [Nathaniel] What's
going on with this one?
559
00:25:27,259 --> 00:25:29,860
- The birds love to nest here
560
00:25:29,862 --> 00:25:31,261
and they will chew on this
561
00:25:31,263 --> 00:25:33,163
and they will chew through it.
562
00:25:35,468 --> 00:25:38,535
These dishes pick
up radio frequencies
563
00:25:38,537 --> 00:25:42,272
and we're listening
for broadcast signals
564
00:25:42,274 --> 00:25:44,708
from a distant civilization.
565
00:25:46,479 --> 00:25:48,612
We're looking for signals
that are engineered.
566
00:25:48,614 --> 00:25:52,082
Things that mother nature
can't do, but we can.
567
00:25:52,084 --> 00:25:53,651
And presumably they can.
568
00:25:55,154 --> 00:25:56,753
- [Nathaniel] But we
have looked a bit.
569
00:25:56,755 --> 00:25:59,490
And so far we haven't
found anything.
570
00:25:59,492 --> 00:26:01,558
- [Jill] We just haven't
looked far enough.
571
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,760
That volume of search space,
572
00:26:03,762 --> 00:26:07,364
set it equal to the volume
of all the Earth's oceans.
573
00:26:07,366 --> 00:26:09,566
And then ask
yourself how much of
574
00:26:09,568 --> 00:26:12,235
the Earth's oceans
have we searched?
575
00:26:12,237 --> 00:26:15,973
And the answer is one
eight ounce glass.
576
00:26:15,975 --> 00:26:18,108
Now, if your question was not,
577
00:26:18,110 --> 00:26:19,510
"Are there extra terrestrials,"
578
00:26:19,512 --> 00:26:21,311
but "are there
fish in the ocean?"
579
00:26:21,313 --> 00:26:23,313
And you did that
experiment and you
580
00:26:23,315 --> 00:26:25,448
dipped your glass in and
you looked at it and,
581
00:26:25,450 --> 00:26:27,450
"Well, no fish in there."
582
00:26:27,452 --> 00:26:28,919
I mean that experiment
could have worked
583
00:26:28,921 --> 00:26:30,587
but there aren't
any fish in there.
584
00:26:30,589 --> 00:26:33,323
I don't think that
you're going to conclude
585
00:26:33,325 --> 00:26:35,392
there are no fish in the ocean.
586
00:26:35,394 --> 00:26:37,460
You're going to say, "I got
to fish a whole lot more."
587
00:26:37,462 --> 00:26:39,129
And that's where we are.
588
00:26:39,131 --> 00:26:40,598
We have a lot more
searching to do.
589
00:26:50,809 --> 00:26:53,544
- [Matt] Ultimately science
is about observation.
590
00:26:54,547 --> 00:26:56,479
Because it's only observation
591
00:26:56,481 --> 00:26:58,349
which actually
gives you the truth.
592
00:27:00,619 --> 00:27:02,352
As the ancients
looked up at the sky,
593
00:27:02,354 --> 00:27:05,488
it was obvious that
everything went around us.
594
00:27:05,490 --> 00:27:08,691
We were the center
of that universe.
595
00:27:08,693 --> 00:27:11,629
And then Galileo lifted
his telescope to the stars.
596
00:27:12,765 --> 00:27:13,731
He looks at the moon.
597
00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:17,434
The moon was supposed
to be this perfect orb.
598
00:27:19,238 --> 00:27:21,638
And he sees for the first
time, the moon is not perfect.
599
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,207
It has mountains,
it has craters.
600
00:27:26,445 --> 00:27:28,178
But the most
important observation,
601
00:27:28,180 --> 00:27:30,648
the one that was
truly revolutionary,
602
00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:37,655
he looked at Jupiter and he
saw four pinpricks of light.
603
00:27:38,857 --> 00:27:41,258
And he assumed they were stars.
604
00:27:41,260 --> 00:27:45,462
And then he realized they were
moons going around Jupiter.
605
00:27:47,332 --> 00:27:50,200
Everything was supposed to
be going around the Earth.
606
00:27:50,202 --> 00:27:52,603
And here was proof it wasn't.
607
00:27:54,273 --> 00:27:56,473
And he realizes that
the ancients were wrong,
608
00:27:56,475 --> 00:28:01,111
the church was wrong, and
we're going around the sun.
609
00:28:04,016 --> 00:28:06,517
(bells tolling)
610
00:28:11,156 --> 00:28:15,225
Observation overthrew
ancient wisdom.
611
00:28:21,634 --> 00:28:25,703
This was the very
first time anybody took
612
00:28:27,172 --> 00:28:29,840
two lenses and lifted
them to the sky.
613
00:28:29,842 --> 00:28:33,176
And it revealed a universe that
nobody had ever seen before.
614
00:28:33,178 --> 00:28:34,845
Once he'd done this,
and he wrote it down,
615
00:28:34,847 --> 00:28:37,047
you can see from his book here,
he wrote down what he saw.
616
00:28:37,049 --> 00:28:38,915
Other people could build
their own telescope.
617
00:28:38,917 --> 00:28:42,052
And suddenly these ideas
could actually flood out.
618
00:28:42,054 --> 00:28:43,787
Galileo was locked
away for 10 years
619
00:28:43,789 --> 00:28:48,258
because the church claimed
that this wasn't true.
620
00:28:48,260 --> 00:28:49,993
400 years ago, it started there.
621
00:28:49,995 --> 00:28:53,396
400 years later, we're
actually taking a mirror
622
00:28:53,398 --> 00:28:57,200
which is 250 times,
roughly, bigger than this,
623
00:28:57,202 --> 00:29:00,003
And we're going to fold it
up and launch it into space
624
00:29:00,005 --> 00:29:02,005
to give it even more sensitivity
625
00:29:02,007 --> 00:29:05,808
to actually see to the
edge of the known universe.
626
00:29:05,810 --> 00:29:08,746
(car horns honking)
627
00:29:14,152 --> 00:29:16,086
- Wow, traffic is crappy.
628
00:29:16,088 --> 00:29:17,487
I think everybody can agree
629
00:29:17,489 --> 00:29:19,690
we're wasting a lot of
energy and effort here.
630
00:29:19,692 --> 00:29:24,027
There's a lot of people
around and we're not being
631
00:29:24,029 --> 00:29:26,497
as responsible as we can
with everything that we have.
632
00:29:28,033 --> 00:29:30,767
Actually, I grew up
in Taiwan, in Taipei.
633
00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:33,103
It has some of the
worst pollution.
634
00:29:33,105 --> 00:29:35,105
Oh, it was hard
to see the stars.
635
00:29:35,107 --> 00:29:37,174
- [Nathaniel] with all
our problems on the Earth,
636
00:29:37,176 --> 00:29:39,309
should we really be spending
so much money on a telescope?
637
00:29:39,311 --> 00:29:41,444
- Our almost reason
for being, you know,
638
00:29:41,446 --> 00:29:44,447
one of our reasons for being
is so that we can do these
639
00:29:44,449 --> 00:29:46,516
good and interesting things that
640
00:29:46,518 --> 00:29:49,319
move us forward as a species.
641
00:29:49,321 --> 00:29:52,322
I think everybody
wants to do something,
642
00:29:52,324 --> 00:29:56,059
be a part of something
greater than just
643
00:29:56,061 --> 00:29:57,361
what they can do alone.
644
00:29:59,131 --> 00:30:01,531
Building something like
the Webb Telescope is that.
645
00:30:01,533 --> 00:30:03,800
So you know, I mean I don't know
646
00:30:03,802 --> 00:30:06,170
what else would you want
to do with your life?
647
00:30:07,472 --> 00:30:10,440
(upbeat string music)
648
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,613
- [Man] Hey Jon.
649
00:30:16,615 --> 00:30:18,281
- Kevin!
- Good to see you again.
650
00:30:18,283 --> 00:30:19,950
- Hi, Amy Lo.
651
00:30:19,952 --> 00:30:21,084
- Amy, nice to meet you.
652
00:30:21,086 --> 00:30:22,619
We've never met before.
653
00:30:22,621 --> 00:30:24,487
I'm sorry, I didn't
mean to ignore you.
654
00:30:24,489 --> 00:30:26,022
Jon and I have known each
other for a long time.
655
00:30:26,024 --> 00:30:27,624
- [Amy] Jon's got
a big presence.
656
00:30:27,626 --> 00:30:29,092
So he grabbed my
attention when I saw him.
657
00:30:29,094 --> 00:30:30,627
- [Jon] We've come a long way.
658
00:30:30,629 --> 00:30:31,628
- [Kevin] And your
timing's perfect.
659
00:30:31,630 --> 00:30:33,630
We're just about to run a test.
660
00:30:33,632 --> 00:30:36,200
This has got to work like
all the other major elements.
661
00:30:39,304 --> 00:30:41,571
We have enough sensitivity
with our telescope
662
00:30:41,573 --> 00:30:44,174
and our instruments to detect
663
00:30:44,176 --> 00:30:47,778
a child's nightlight
located on the moon.
664
00:30:50,248 --> 00:30:53,850
I know that if you
were to certainly take
your radiant heat,
665
00:30:53,852 --> 00:30:56,853
which for a human is
about 80 to 100 Watts
666
00:30:56,855 --> 00:30:58,655
and stick it on the
moon, we would easily
667
00:30:58,657 --> 00:30:59,823
be able to detect that.
668
00:31:03,996 --> 00:31:05,595
- When people think
about the telescope,
669
00:31:05,597 --> 00:31:07,798
they think of the
huge mirror, right?
670
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,133
That's the iconic
part of the telescope
671
00:31:10,135 --> 00:31:12,202
but this is what the
astronomers care about.
672
00:31:12,204 --> 00:31:14,037
This is where the
data comes from.
673
00:31:16,541 --> 00:31:18,074
- Our telescope is so
sensitive that it could
674
00:31:18,076 --> 00:31:20,143
pick up the heat of a bumblebee
675
00:31:20,145 --> 00:31:23,079
if the bumblebee were
as far away as the moon.
676
00:31:23,081 --> 00:31:25,148
That is completely
astonishing to me,
677
00:31:25,150 --> 00:31:26,549
even knowing that
that's our telescope
678
00:31:26,551 --> 00:31:28,685
and we built it that way.
679
00:31:28,687 --> 00:31:30,420
- Yes, I've heard that.
680
00:31:30,422 --> 00:31:31,822
In fact, I was asked about it.
681
00:31:33,692 --> 00:31:36,693
I'd have to sit down and do
the math very, very carefully.
682
00:31:36,695 --> 00:31:40,697
I've learned one does not
argue with Nobel Prize winners.
683
00:31:40,699 --> 00:31:42,432
I heard about this calculation.
684
00:31:42,434 --> 00:31:43,433
I checked it myself.
685
00:31:43,435 --> 00:31:44,635
I believe it's correct.
686
00:31:44,637 --> 00:31:46,569
Yeah.
687
00:31:46,571 --> 00:31:50,440
- If we had the moon here and
the Earth 250,000 miles...
688
00:31:52,110 --> 00:31:53,776
What you'd do first is calculate
the area of the sphere.
689
00:31:53,778 --> 00:31:55,245
Frequency times
Planck's constant.
690
00:31:55,247 --> 00:31:58,548
(continues indistinctly)
691
00:32:02,521 --> 00:32:04,587
- [Nathaniel] A bumblebee
gives off how much energy?
692
00:32:04,589 --> 00:32:09,426
- Well, it gives off about
50 milliwatts of power.
693
00:32:13,265 --> 00:32:15,198
- It does seem
reasonable that we could
694
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,335
see a bumblebee on the
moon with our telescope.
695
00:32:18,337 --> 00:32:20,537
That's a bumblebee as
opposed to a yellow jacket
696
00:32:20,539 --> 00:32:23,540
as opposed to a hornet but
we could collect the light.
697
00:32:23,542 --> 00:32:26,944
Should know better than to
argue with our chief scientist.
698
00:32:35,688 --> 00:32:39,222
- [Maggie] These are all
worker bees, which are female.
699
00:32:39,224 --> 00:32:42,559
There will typically be
some drones in here too,
700
00:32:42,561 --> 00:32:44,294
bigger males.
701
00:32:44,296 --> 00:32:47,230
They aren't essential to
the survival of the hives.
702
00:32:47,232 --> 00:32:48,765
- [Nathaniel] Hm, the
males are not essential?
703
00:32:48,767 --> 00:32:51,101
- [Maggie] No, in the fall
704
00:32:51,103 --> 00:32:52,969
all the drones are
going to get kicked out.
705
00:32:52,971 --> 00:32:55,572
They're going to
be begging to stay
706
00:32:55,574 --> 00:32:57,173
and the workers
are gonna be like,
707
00:32:57,175 --> 00:33:00,710
"Sorry, we do not have resources
to feed you all winter."
708
00:33:00,712 --> 00:33:01,844
They're going to kick them out
709
00:33:01,846 --> 00:33:03,780
and they will go freeze and die.
710
00:33:03,782 --> 00:33:07,918
And these girls will stay
together all winter long
711
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,721
beating their wings
and making enough heat.
712
00:33:12,457 --> 00:33:17,060
I'm living in Wisconsin
because I really wanted to be
713
00:33:17,062 --> 00:33:20,931
closer to the natural
world in my daily life
714
00:33:20,933 --> 00:33:25,435
in a way that an office
couldn't do for me personally.
715
00:33:27,405 --> 00:33:28,939
- [Nathaniel] It reminds me
of the shape of the mirrors
716
00:33:28,941 --> 00:33:30,406
on the James Webb
Space Telescope.
717
00:33:30,408 --> 00:33:31,874
- [Maggie] It does, yeah.
718
00:33:31,876 --> 00:33:33,610
The hexagons are just
a really efficient way
719
00:33:33,612 --> 00:33:35,746
of packing together a bunch
of cells in one place.
720
00:33:35,748 --> 00:33:39,816
So that is a shape you
will find in nature.
721
00:33:39,818 --> 00:33:41,985
And in mechanical engineering.
722
00:33:43,555 --> 00:33:44,955
I already know
which of these hives
723
00:33:44,957 --> 00:33:46,757
isn't going to make
it through the winter.
724
00:33:46,759 --> 00:33:48,558
It's hard on them.
725
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,026
There is colony
collapse because of
726
00:33:50,028 --> 00:33:52,629
chemicals that's
going on fields.
727
00:33:52,631 --> 00:33:54,297
There's a farm field right there
728
00:33:54,299 --> 00:33:56,499
that's obviously
not being sprayed.
729
00:33:56,501 --> 00:33:59,169
The bees probably love that
730
00:33:59,171 --> 00:34:01,471
and they need
diversity of resources.
731
00:34:03,175 --> 00:34:06,776
It's fascinating to see how
that social structure operates.
732
00:34:06,778 --> 00:34:09,512
And one does kind of wonder,
733
00:34:09,514 --> 00:34:12,783
is there another
civilization of that type
734
00:34:12,785 --> 00:34:16,887
out there that is more
collectively minded than we are?
735
00:34:19,124 --> 00:34:21,391
If there are other
civilizations that could be
736
00:34:21,393 --> 00:34:24,060
really useful
information because we're
737
00:34:24,062 --> 00:34:25,996
at this point
where we don't know
738
00:34:25,998 --> 00:34:28,632
if we can survive the
emergence of technology.
739
00:34:37,075 --> 00:34:38,941
- [Johnny Carson] If you
think it would happen,
740
00:34:38,943 --> 00:34:40,276
when would it happen?
741
00:34:40,278 --> 00:34:42,745
Within a period of 10
years, 20, 50 years?
742
00:34:42,747 --> 00:34:45,682
- [Carl Sagan] Depends on how
much of an effort we make.
743
00:34:45,684 --> 00:34:47,617
If we make no effort
the possibility of
744
00:34:47,619 --> 00:34:50,087
detecting such signals is small.
745
00:34:52,290 --> 00:34:55,758
- We are one step closer to
answering the age old question,
746
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,427
"Are we alone in the universe?"
747
00:34:57,429 --> 00:35:00,163
NASA announced the discovery
of seven Earth-sized planets
748
00:35:00,165 --> 00:35:03,299
around a star about 40
light years away from Earth.
749
00:35:03,301 --> 00:35:06,102
- This is the latest revelation
in a wave of discoveries
750
00:35:06,104 --> 00:35:08,238
over the past 25
years of new worlds
751
00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:11,307
that exist in solar
systems beyond our own.
752
00:35:11,309 --> 00:35:15,045
- Astronomers call the
discovery the Trappist-1 system.
753
00:35:15,047 --> 00:35:18,381
Sarah Seager of MIT is
one of the researchers.
754
00:35:18,383 --> 00:35:20,650
- We've made a giant
accelerated leap forward
755
00:35:20,652 --> 00:35:22,652
in the search for
habitable worlds.
756
00:35:22,654 --> 00:35:24,854
- These planets
are among the best
757
00:35:24,856 --> 00:35:26,723
of all the planets
we know to follow up
758
00:35:26,725 --> 00:35:29,592
with the James Webb
Space Telescope.
759
00:35:29,594 --> 00:35:33,863
The discovery gives us a hint
that finding a second Earth
760
00:35:33,865 --> 00:35:36,766
is not just a matter
of if, but when.
761
00:35:41,540 --> 00:35:43,874
- [Natalie] Wow, Trappist-1
is all over the news.
762
00:35:43,876 --> 00:35:45,408
I mean, look at it.
763
00:35:45,410 --> 00:35:46,276
Nothing else comes close.
764
00:35:46,278 --> 00:35:47,877
- [Natasha] Yeah.
765
00:35:47,879 --> 00:35:48,945
- And look at the
TESS predictions.
766
00:35:48,947 --> 00:35:50,747
I mean, even the
simulated sample
767
00:35:50,749 --> 00:35:52,682
from TESS doesn't
reach down there.
768
00:35:52,684 --> 00:35:55,017
I mean, Trappist, I
think unless we get
769
00:35:55,019 --> 00:35:58,955
extraordinarily lucky, Trappist
is going to remain this
770
00:35:58,957 --> 00:36:02,759
singular system,
completely unique.
771
00:36:02,761 --> 00:36:04,627
- Trappist is just so cool.
772
00:36:04,629 --> 00:36:06,696
Especially if some
of those planets
773
00:36:06,698 --> 00:36:08,631
could have water features.
774
00:36:08,633 --> 00:36:09,966
- All right, we'll
pick this up later.
775
00:36:09,968 --> 00:36:10,833
- Okay.
776
00:36:10,835 --> 00:36:12,702
- You can leave that.
777
00:36:12,704 --> 00:36:14,704
It's nice that my daughter is
actually involved with this.
778
00:36:14,706 --> 00:36:16,873
So I do feel like I'm
passing something on.
779
00:36:19,912 --> 00:36:22,512
- [Natasha] I am designing
the observing program
780
00:36:22,514 --> 00:36:25,315
that we're going to use with
the James Webb Space Telescope
781
00:36:25,317 --> 00:36:27,717
to observe Trappist-1E.
782
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:28,851
- [Nathaniel] And 1E is what?
783
00:36:28,853 --> 00:36:30,320
That's one of the planets?
784
00:36:30,322 --> 00:36:33,055
- Yes, the Trappist
star is much redder
785
00:36:33,057 --> 00:36:36,126
and only about half the
temperature of our own sun.
786
00:36:37,596 --> 00:36:41,063
B and C are probably far too hot
787
00:36:41,065 --> 00:36:45,267
to be able to sustain
surface liquid water.
788
00:36:45,269 --> 00:36:47,003
The habitable zone,
789
00:36:47,005 --> 00:36:48,805
which is also sometimes
called the Goldilocks zone,
790
00:36:48,807 --> 00:36:51,207
is right about here.
791
00:36:51,209 --> 00:36:56,012
And E really sits
right in this region
792
00:36:56,014 --> 00:37:00,016
where surface liquid water
could potentially exist,
793
00:37:00,018 --> 00:37:02,485
which is what we think
we need for life.
794
00:37:02,487 --> 00:37:05,355
And I can actually show you
this on a travel poster.
795
00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:11,027
And so here you can actually
see what you would be seeing
796
00:37:11,029 --> 00:37:13,563
if you were sitting on the
surface of Trappist-1E.
797
00:37:13,565 --> 00:37:15,765
- [Nathaniel] How do you
mean a travel poster?
798
00:37:15,767 --> 00:37:16,566
What does it come from?
799
00:37:16,568 --> 00:37:18,568
What is this?
800
00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:21,704
- So this is an artist's
rendering of Trappist-1E.
801
00:37:21,706 --> 00:37:24,574
It says, "Voted best
hab zone vacation
802
00:37:24,576 --> 00:37:27,377
within 12 parsecs of Earth."
803
00:37:27,379 --> 00:37:29,712
- [Nathaniel] And below it,
does it describe it at all?
804
00:37:29,714 --> 00:37:31,848
- It says, "Some 40
light years from Earth
805
00:37:31,850 --> 00:37:35,985
a planet called Trappist-1E
offers heart-stopping view.
806
00:37:35,987 --> 00:37:38,521
Brilliant objects in
a red sky looming like
807
00:37:38,523 --> 00:37:42,124
larger and smaller
versions of our own moon."
808
00:37:42,126 --> 00:37:43,659
- [Nathaniel] You're
part of a team,
809
00:37:43,661 --> 00:37:44,727
right, that's doing this?
810
00:37:44,729 --> 00:37:45,795
- Right, right, right.
811
00:37:45,797 --> 00:37:47,530
So when James Webb is launching
812
00:37:47,532 --> 00:37:50,800
we will be able to measure
the atmosphere composition
813
00:37:50,802 --> 00:37:52,068
of some of these planets.
814
00:37:52,070 --> 00:37:53,403
- [Nathaniel] So tell me,
815
00:37:53,405 --> 00:37:54,937
how did you come to
study exoplanets, then?
816
00:37:54,939 --> 00:37:56,472
- When I was really little,
817
00:37:56,474 --> 00:37:58,741
probably eight or
nine, my mom had
818
00:37:58,743 --> 00:38:03,346
me and all my siblings draw
pictures of astronauts.
819
00:38:03,348 --> 00:38:05,481
And I was so proud to show
her and she looks at it
820
00:38:05,483 --> 00:38:07,683
and she goes, "Oh yeah,
you know, that's awesome.
821
00:38:07,685 --> 00:38:09,586
Why did you draw a white man?"
822
00:38:11,223 --> 00:38:12,822
You know, my mom is
a female scientist.
823
00:38:12,824 --> 00:38:14,090
My dad is a Latin scientist
824
00:38:14,092 --> 00:38:16,893
and I had drawn this white man.
825
00:38:16,895 --> 00:38:21,097
And I was so shocked and
I think moving forward
826
00:38:21,099 --> 00:38:23,499
I was always
conscious about that.
827
00:38:23,501 --> 00:38:26,403
And instead of being
some, you know,
828
00:38:27,839 --> 00:38:29,372
being something that
kind of discouraged me,
829
00:38:29,374 --> 00:38:31,141
I think that that
kind of empowered me.
830
00:38:32,644 --> 00:38:34,310
(man speaking
indistinctly over radio)
831
00:38:34,312 --> 00:38:36,312
- We all have the same
desires and wants and
832
00:38:36,314 --> 00:38:38,648
and generally science
and NASA missions
833
00:38:38,650 --> 00:38:40,917
brings those things
to the table.
834
00:38:40,919 --> 00:38:43,920
Unfortunately, in the
space science community
835
00:38:43,922 --> 00:38:46,522
it hasn't been as
diverse as it should be.
836
00:38:46,524 --> 00:38:49,693
And one of the things with
exoplanets, it's newer.
837
00:38:51,529 --> 00:38:55,665
Generally the newer sciences
attract more diverse teams.
838
00:38:55,667 --> 00:38:58,134
So yes, that really
excites me and
839
00:38:58,136 --> 00:39:00,202
we're scientists and
engineers, right?
840
00:39:00,204 --> 00:39:03,273
So certainly we follow the data.
841
00:39:03,275 --> 00:39:06,208
All of the data supports
that, that teams are
842
00:39:06,210 --> 00:39:10,346
far more successful and better
when they're more diverse.
843
00:39:10,348 --> 00:39:12,815
So I always say,
"Now's the time."
844
00:39:12,817 --> 00:39:14,050
And I think now's the time.
845
00:39:18,089 --> 00:39:19,088
- [Technician] Nothing?
846
00:39:19,090 --> 00:39:20,156
Okay, let's get started.
847
00:39:20,158 --> 00:39:21,324
Any questions guys?
848
00:39:23,828 --> 00:39:24,694
- Only four more to go.
849
00:39:24,696 --> 00:39:26,496
(laughing)
850
00:39:26,498 --> 00:39:28,831
- We don't want the
telescope portion
851
00:39:28,833 --> 00:39:31,634
of the Webb Telescope
to see any of the sun
852
00:39:31,636 --> 00:39:33,937
because we're trying to
keep it very, very cold.
853
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,574
In order to detect heat
signature, infrared signature,
854
00:39:38,576 --> 00:39:40,176
it obviously needs
to be very cold
855
00:39:40,178 --> 00:39:42,979
or all it's going to
measure is just itself.
856
00:39:42,981 --> 00:39:46,549
- Minus J mid, MTS full
deployment, layer one.
857
00:39:48,386 --> 00:39:50,186
- In space, really the only
thing that will heat you up
858
00:39:50,188 --> 00:39:52,188
is the electronics
that you've got
859
00:39:52,190 --> 00:39:54,390
and a really bright
source, which is the sun.
860
00:39:54,392 --> 00:39:55,925
And that's the purpose
of the sunshield.
861
00:39:55,927 --> 00:39:57,660
The sunshield
keeps the telescope
862
00:39:57,662 --> 00:39:59,261
from getting all that sunlight.
863
00:39:59,263 --> 00:40:00,497
So it stays cold.
864
00:40:02,334 --> 00:40:05,267
- [Technician] Nice and
slow, guys, nice and slow.
865
00:40:05,269 --> 00:40:07,670
- What's particularly
challenging is the fact that
866
00:40:07,672 --> 00:40:12,041
we have to fold it up and
deploy it once we get on orbit.
867
00:40:18,149 --> 00:40:19,281
- [Technician] Oh, stop.
868
00:40:19,283 --> 00:40:19,949
- [Technician 2] Hold that.
869
00:40:19,951 --> 00:40:20,917
What happened?
870
00:40:22,420 --> 00:40:24,220
- [Technician] We
just lost the cable.
871
00:40:24,222 --> 00:40:25,888
- [Jim Flynn] If you could
talk to Jon about that?
872
00:40:25,890 --> 00:40:27,289
- Yeah, you know,
I'm gonna go get him
873
00:40:27,291 --> 00:40:28,158
while we're doing layer four.
874
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,826
- [Technician] Okay.
875
00:40:29,828 --> 00:40:31,961
- [Amy] We'll come
back and do layer five.
876
00:40:31,963 --> 00:40:32,962
Brian, are you ready?
877
00:40:32,964 --> 00:40:33,963
- [Brian] Ready.
878
00:40:33,965 --> 00:40:35,097
- [Technician] You ready?
879
00:40:35,099 --> 00:40:36,766
- [Brian] Yeah.
880
00:40:36,768 --> 00:40:38,768
- [Technician] Going up.
881
00:40:38,770 --> 00:40:41,571
- Layer one's running about
212 degrees Fahrenheit
882
00:40:41,573 --> 00:40:43,973
and layer five on the
cold side is running
883
00:40:43,975 --> 00:40:45,775
about minus 400
degrees Fahrenheit.
884
00:40:45,777 --> 00:40:47,610
So it's approximately
a million SPF.
885
00:40:52,316 --> 00:40:53,716
- [Jon] I'll tell you what,
886
00:40:53,718 --> 00:40:55,385
you go and you kind
of pooch that up,
887
00:40:55,387 --> 00:40:56,919
you're not going to
come anywhere close.
888
00:40:56,921 --> 00:40:58,388
- [Technician] I can
take a look at it.
889
00:40:58,390 --> 00:41:00,256
- [Jon] That's what
I need somebody
890
00:41:00,258 --> 00:41:02,625
to explain to me, how that's
going to be okay on flight.
891
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,769
I've always set my
sights on big goals.
892
00:41:14,206 --> 00:41:16,172
I'm a very competitive
person by nature.
893
00:41:17,141 --> 00:41:18,808
I don't like to lose.
894
00:41:18,810 --> 00:41:22,212
I like to prove myself
equal to any challenge.
895
00:41:22,214 --> 00:41:23,479
- [Archival Newscaster]
America's first attempt
896
00:41:23,481 --> 00:41:24,880
to launch a satellite.
897
00:41:24,882 --> 00:41:26,148
- [Jon] When I was a little boy.
898
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:28,051
My father told stories.
899
00:41:29,287 --> 00:41:31,621
- [Jon] He worked on Vanguard
900
00:41:31,623 --> 00:41:33,823
and it blew up on
national television.
901
00:41:33,825 --> 00:41:36,326
Just blew up, twice.
902
00:41:40,031 --> 00:41:41,897
- [Trainer] Give me
one more, there you go.
903
00:41:41,899 --> 00:41:43,032
Done, done, done, done, done
904
00:41:45,770 --> 00:41:47,369
- [Jon] By the time I'm done
905
00:41:47,371 --> 00:41:49,239
I will have been on the
program 12 and a half years
906
00:41:49,241 --> 00:41:52,975
and it will all come down to
that very short period of time
907
00:41:52,977 --> 00:41:57,013
between launch and when we
complete deployment about here.
908
00:42:00,318 --> 00:42:03,052
It's not unlike
training for a meet.
909
00:42:03,054 --> 00:42:04,320
I would train for months.
910
00:42:04,322 --> 00:42:06,188
- [Trainer] Yeah, nice.
911
00:42:06,190 --> 00:42:08,224
- For what literally was
a few seconds of activity.
912
00:42:12,264 --> 00:42:15,197
We're all very well
aware that we have to
913
00:42:15,199 --> 00:42:18,801
get this right the first
time, the only time,
914
00:42:18,803 --> 00:42:22,404
because out at L2, repairman
doesn't make a house call.
915
00:42:22,406 --> 00:42:24,674
We don't get that second chance.
916
00:42:24,676 --> 00:42:27,176
It's a "one strike and
you're out" business.
917
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,681
(upbeat synth music)
918
00:42:36,821 --> 00:42:39,155
- Sometimes I put music on,
like 80s music typically,
919
00:42:39,157 --> 00:42:41,925
and just let my mind wander
to like what's out there.
920
00:42:44,963 --> 00:42:46,762
- [Nathaniel] That's
your favorite music?
921
00:42:46,764 --> 00:42:48,298
- [Sara] I just kind of like
the 80s, what about you?
922
00:42:48,300 --> 00:42:50,366
- [Nathaniel] Oh yeah,
well that's my era too.
923
00:42:50,368 --> 00:42:52,168
- The 80s is big now, you know?
924
00:42:52,170 --> 00:42:54,370
Even my kids know all the
80s songs, lots of kids do.
925
00:42:54,372 --> 00:42:56,038
- [Nathaniel] Really?
926
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,306
- Apparently, yeah,
apparently the 80s,
927
00:42:57,308 --> 00:42:58,741
the beat is still very popular.
928
00:43:01,313 --> 00:43:03,112
Interesting, right?
929
00:43:03,114 --> 00:43:05,782
- [Nathaniel] Yeah,
that's interesting.
930
00:43:08,386 --> 00:43:11,854
Where does the drive come from?
931
00:43:11,856 --> 00:43:13,990
- I mean, the drive is
really the end goal,
932
00:43:13,992 --> 00:43:16,325
which is finding another
Earth, a true Earth.
933
00:43:16,327 --> 00:43:19,328
But, that's the drive, right,
934
00:43:19,330 --> 00:43:20,897
but the joy is in the every day.
935
00:43:24,268 --> 00:43:26,869
- [Nathaniel] And if we
could find another Earth
936
00:43:26,871 --> 00:43:28,805
what do you think that
would mean for us?
937
00:43:30,274 --> 00:43:31,174
- It's a tough one.
938
00:43:32,476 --> 00:43:33,876
What do I think it'd mean?
939
00:43:33,878 --> 00:43:35,411
Well, I don't know, I
feel like I have to ask
940
00:43:35,413 --> 00:43:36,345
you and everyone else
what it would mean.
941
00:43:36,347 --> 00:43:38,013
- [Nathaniel] Yeah.
942
00:43:38,015 --> 00:43:39,882
- It would mean that
we're not alone.
943
00:43:39,884 --> 00:43:43,619
It would mean that we're not
the center of the universe
944
00:43:43,621 --> 00:43:45,755
and it would really
expand our horizons
945
00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:49,625
as to what's out there
and who might be out there
946
00:43:49,627 --> 00:43:51,127
as well as who we are.
947
00:43:52,363 --> 00:43:54,564
- [Nathaniel] Who we are, yeah.
948
00:43:54,566 --> 00:43:56,832
- [Loudspeaker] The
time is now 7:35pm
949
00:43:56,834 --> 00:43:59,635
and the reservation
is now closed.
950
00:43:59,637 --> 00:44:01,303
Please kindly gather
your belongings
951
00:44:01,305 --> 00:44:04,640
and return to your vehicles
at the main exit gate.
952
00:44:04,642 --> 00:44:06,642
Again, thank you for
visiting Walden Pond
953
00:44:06,644 --> 00:44:07,844
and have a great evening.
954
00:44:09,447 --> 00:44:11,180
- [Nathaniel] What's that?
955
00:44:11,182 --> 00:44:12,514
- [Charles] So this
axis here has to
956
00:44:12,516 --> 00:44:14,516
point to Polaris,
basically and--
957
00:44:14,518 --> 00:44:15,451
- [Nathaniel] Polaris
is the North Star?
958
00:44:15,453 --> 00:44:17,186
- Yeah, North Star.
959
00:44:17,188 --> 00:44:19,255
Now the cameras.
960
00:44:19,257 --> 00:44:21,057
So this is a one-shot color.
961
00:44:21,059 --> 00:44:22,324
- [Nathaniel] What
do you think about,
962
00:44:22,326 --> 00:44:24,126
you know, finding another Earth?
963
00:44:24,128 --> 00:44:26,796
- Yeah, I understand the drive,
964
00:44:26,798 --> 00:44:31,067
I understand the curiosity
and the journey of discovery
965
00:44:31,069 --> 00:44:32,802
and the importance of discovery.
966
00:44:32,804 --> 00:44:35,471
And that will change
things if we do find
967
00:44:35,473 --> 00:44:37,539
another world that
has biosignatures
968
00:44:37,541 --> 00:44:39,541
or evidence of life on it.
969
00:44:39,543 --> 00:44:41,944
But we have life here.
970
00:44:41,946 --> 00:44:44,546
And we have love here and
everything that matters to us,
971
00:44:44,548 --> 00:44:46,081
really, and is important to us,
972
00:44:46,083 --> 00:44:47,250
is right here on this earth.
973
00:44:51,155 --> 00:44:54,824
And, you know, that's what's
important, you know, to me.
974
00:44:57,161 --> 00:44:58,560
- [Nathaniel] You actually found
975
00:44:58,562 --> 00:45:00,229
the love of your life
through astronomy.
976
00:45:00,231 --> 00:45:01,831
At an astronomy meeting.
977
00:45:01,833 --> 00:45:06,568
- Our eyes met at the wine
and cheese reception before
978
00:45:06,570 --> 00:45:09,371
her talk and I was just
wondering who this person was.
979
00:45:09,373 --> 00:45:11,307
And I didn't know she
was the keynote speaker.
980
00:45:11,309 --> 00:45:13,843
And then the next day
she gave another talk
981
00:45:13,845 --> 00:45:16,378
just before lunch and
after that, I decided,
982
00:45:16,380 --> 00:45:18,047
which was probably the
most important decision
983
00:45:18,049 --> 00:45:19,715
I made in my life
was to be healthy.
984
00:45:19,717 --> 00:45:21,717
And I decided to get
a soup and a salad.
985
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,720
And I walked into the line,
986
00:45:24,722 --> 00:45:26,588
there was a bit of a line
and she turned around
987
00:45:26,590 --> 00:45:29,058
and I asked her, "Would you
like to join me for lunch?"
988
00:45:29,060 --> 00:45:33,462
And she said yes
and we got a table
989
00:45:33,464 --> 00:45:36,265
off to the side by
ourselves and, you know,
990
00:45:36,267 --> 00:45:37,599
five minutes into
that conversation
991
00:45:37,601 --> 00:45:40,269
I knew my life was
going to change.
992
00:45:40,271 --> 00:45:42,538
I knew something
was going to happen.
993
00:45:46,010 --> 00:45:47,543
- [Nathaniel] Don't
let me interrupt you
994
00:45:47,545 --> 00:45:49,144
from continuing
with the telescope.
995
00:45:49,146 --> 00:45:50,346
- Okay, let's get
back at this thing
996
00:45:50,348 --> 00:45:51,948
and we'll see what we can...
997
00:46:03,161 --> 00:46:05,961
- I don't really know
why anyone wants to know
998
00:46:05,963 --> 00:46:07,497
why there's life out there.
999
00:46:10,301 --> 00:46:12,468
I guess cause we're kind
of a lonely species.
1000
00:46:15,506 --> 00:46:18,207
I think loneliness
is a human condition
1001
00:46:19,977 --> 00:46:22,177
and everyone's sort of
trapped in their own head.
1002
00:46:22,179 --> 00:46:26,482
And we try with our lives in
various ways to be not lonely.
1003
00:46:28,386 --> 00:46:31,320
We find friends,
partners, mates, family,
you have children.
1004
00:46:32,857 --> 00:46:35,191
We're trying to
find life elsewhere
1005
00:46:35,193 --> 00:46:38,728
because we have a need and
a desire to communicate
1006
00:46:38,730 --> 00:46:41,898
and then to connect
in any way possible.
1007
00:46:45,469 --> 00:46:46,468
- [Technician] Ready?
1008
00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:48,203
Okay, Brain, ready.
1009
00:46:48,205 --> 00:46:49,739
- [Jon] Okay, we'll
try this again.
1010
00:46:49,741 --> 00:46:53,976
- Layer five on three, two, one.
1011
00:46:58,616 --> 00:46:59,949
10 inches of travel.
1012
00:47:02,420 --> 00:47:03,152
20 inches of travel.
1013
00:47:06,624 --> 00:47:07,824
30 inches of travel.
1014
00:47:11,295 --> 00:47:12,328
65 inches of travel.
1015
00:47:14,632 --> 00:47:16,032
80 inches of travel.
1016
00:47:18,636 --> 00:47:20,369
190 inches of travel.
1017
00:47:21,573 --> 00:47:23,439
197.
1018
00:47:23,441 --> 00:47:24,540
198.
1019
00:47:25,709 --> 00:47:26,809
Fully deployed.
1020
00:47:33,585 --> 00:47:36,786
(cheering)
1021
00:47:36,788 --> 00:47:39,855
- [Jon] This is hundreds
of man years of work.
1022
00:47:39,857 --> 00:47:41,523
I don't think it's
possible to overstate
1023
00:47:41,525 --> 00:47:43,659
how exciting this is.
1024
00:47:45,463 --> 00:47:47,396
It's another step, just like
completing the back plane
1025
00:47:47,398 --> 00:47:48,497
and completing the mirrors.
1026
00:47:50,534 --> 00:47:52,201
I'm going to have a
hard time concentrating
1027
00:47:52,203 --> 00:47:54,170
when I take Mom
to dinner tonight.
1028
00:47:57,274 --> 00:47:58,307
- [Technician] Yowza, wow.
1029
00:47:59,877 --> 00:48:01,410
- [Technician 2]
Wow, it looks good.
1030
00:48:01,412 --> 00:48:03,412
- [Technician] It
looks fantastic.
1031
00:48:03,414 --> 00:48:05,414
- All right, imagine
you are the Telescope
1032
00:48:09,153 --> 00:48:12,622
looking out on the universe,
looking out on the stars.
1033
00:48:18,830 --> 00:48:22,431
It's going to be dark and
cold out there where this is.
1034
00:48:22,433 --> 00:48:24,366
Imagine yourself frozen.
1035
00:48:24,368 --> 00:48:25,968
- [Technician 2] It has
no company out there,
1036
00:48:25,970 --> 00:48:27,870
out there in orbit,
it's all by itself.
1037
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,173
If we see life on
another planet,
1038
00:48:31,175 --> 00:48:33,509
I mean, we have to
motivate to go say hello.
1039
00:48:33,511 --> 00:48:34,710
That's it.
1040
00:48:34,712 --> 00:48:36,078
They're there, we're here.
1041
00:49:08,612 --> 00:49:09,745
- [Nick] Just animals.
1042
00:49:12,283 --> 00:49:16,151
Everything in this whole
museum is basically animals.
1043
00:49:16,153 --> 00:49:18,554
Even the tiny ones,
but this is just
1044
00:49:18,556 --> 00:49:20,289
a tiny fraction of biodiversity.
1045
00:49:23,227 --> 00:49:25,761
This kind of complexity
doesn't happen easily.
1046
00:49:27,631 --> 00:49:28,630
- [Nathaniel] How did it happen?
1047
00:49:28,632 --> 00:49:30,566
Did it happen here?
1048
00:49:30,568 --> 00:49:32,702
- [Nick] Some people think
life started on the land.
1049
00:49:32,704 --> 00:49:35,237
I think it started down
at the bottom of the ocean
1050
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,307
in hydrothermal vents
down across the sea floor.
1051
00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:40,042
The one that most
people know about
1052
00:49:40,044 --> 00:49:42,578
is a really dynamic system
called black smokers.
1053
00:49:42,580 --> 00:49:44,646
They were amazing because nobody
1054
00:49:44,648 --> 00:49:47,316
expected to see so
much life down there.
1055
00:49:47,318 --> 00:49:49,184
Weird forms of life.
1056
00:49:49,186 --> 00:49:50,920
Giant tube worms that don't
have a mouth or an anus
1057
00:49:50,922 --> 00:49:53,122
and enormous clams the
size of dinner plates and--
1058
00:49:53,124 --> 00:49:55,524
- [Nathaniel] A worm that
has neither mouth nor anus?
1059
00:49:55,526 --> 00:49:56,725
- Yeah.
1060
00:49:56,727 --> 00:49:57,859
- [Nathaniel] How does it eat?
1061
00:49:57,861 --> 00:49:59,395
- It doesn't eat.
1062
00:49:59,397 --> 00:50:01,663
I mean, it basically
uses the bacteria
1063
00:50:01,665 --> 00:50:05,867
that grow inside it to provide
it with organic molecules.
1064
00:50:05,869 --> 00:50:07,603
Well, there's
another kind of vent,
1065
00:50:07,605 --> 00:50:09,538
which I personally
think is the answer.
1066
00:50:09,540 --> 00:50:12,274
I like to think of them
as Gothic cathedrals.
1067
00:50:12,276 --> 00:50:14,810
Beautiful architecture
in the rock.
1068
00:50:14,812 --> 00:50:18,480
They're actually formed by
a much more gentle process.
1069
00:50:18,482 --> 00:50:20,682
Water will percolate down
beneath the ocean floor
1070
00:50:20,684 --> 00:50:23,619
and there's a particular
type of mineral.
1071
00:50:23,621 --> 00:50:25,487
It's called olivine.
1072
00:50:25,489 --> 00:50:27,556
You find it as dust
throughout interstellar space.
1073
00:50:27,558 --> 00:50:29,358
This is a really common mineral.
1074
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,426
And the thing is it
will react with water
1075
00:50:31,428 --> 00:50:33,629
bubbling hydrogen gas out.
1076
00:50:33,631 --> 00:50:35,297
And that's basically
an environment
1077
00:50:35,299 --> 00:50:36,665
that's giving rise to life.
1078
00:50:37,969 --> 00:50:39,368
- [Nathaniel] Do you think that
1079
00:50:39,370 --> 00:50:41,370
there's life out there
beyond the Earth?
1080
00:50:41,372 --> 00:50:43,973
- I think we hope that
there's going to be
1081
00:50:43,975 --> 00:50:47,176
lots of amazing
complex life out there,
1082
00:50:47,178 --> 00:50:50,912
kind of semi human in the way
that it interacts with us.
1083
00:50:50,914 --> 00:50:51,780
And I think we're likely to be
1084
00:50:51,782 --> 00:50:53,715
quite disappointed about that.
1085
00:50:53,717 --> 00:50:55,584
You know, maybe we should
be interacting with
1086
00:50:55,586 --> 00:50:57,353
life on our own planet
in a more meaningful way.
1087
00:51:04,461 --> 00:51:05,794
- How far can you push a planet
1088
00:51:05,796 --> 00:51:07,329
in one direction
or the other and
1089
00:51:07,331 --> 00:51:09,265
still have it capable
of sustaining life?
1090
00:51:11,335 --> 00:51:13,202
During graduate school
I would walk from
1091
00:51:13,204 --> 00:51:16,605
the astronomy department down
to family-student housing.
1092
00:51:16,607 --> 00:51:19,008
We were studying
comparative planetology
1093
00:51:19,010 --> 00:51:22,011
and my head was full
of these images of
1094
00:51:22,013 --> 00:51:26,615
Mercury, Mars,
Venus, even the moon,
1095
00:51:26,617 --> 00:51:28,283
all of these lifeless worlds.
1096
00:51:28,285 --> 00:51:31,486
And so walking from the
department, you come up a knoll
1097
00:51:31,488 --> 00:51:34,089
and you all of a sudden emerge
from the redwood forests
1098
00:51:34,091 --> 00:51:37,893
open up onto this big
meadow, but you're up high.
1099
00:51:37,895 --> 00:51:40,696
So you see it as
this very thin veneer
1100
00:51:40,698 --> 00:51:42,598
of life stretched
out before you.
1101
00:51:44,501 --> 00:51:46,435
It looked like I could just
reach out and wipe it away
1102
00:51:46,437 --> 00:51:49,905
with a sponge, you know, like
cleaning the kitchen counter.
1103
00:51:49,907 --> 00:51:52,307
And I just had that feeling that
1104
00:51:52,309 --> 00:51:54,910
the difference
between a living world
1105
00:51:54,912 --> 00:51:59,248
and a lifeless
world was a small,
1106
00:51:59,250 --> 00:52:01,917
tiny difference, like
an accident, you know.
1107
00:52:01,919 --> 00:52:04,120
(thunder)
1108
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:17,866
- It's been a rough
spring start but we had
1109
00:52:17,868 --> 00:52:19,134
a lot of heavy snow in February.
1110
00:52:19,136 --> 00:52:20,469
I mean a lot.
1111
00:52:20,471 --> 00:52:21,870
It was like every other day.
1112
00:52:21,872 --> 00:52:23,472
It would snow about
10 to 12 inches.
1113
00:52:23,474 --> 00:52:24,740
And the disasters
are getting worse
1114
00:52:24,742 --> 00:52:26,141
and they're getting stronger.
1115
00:52:26,143 --> 00:52:27,609
There's so many
people who don't...
1116
00:52:27,611 --> 00:52:29,144
they're like, "This
is how it is."
1117
00:52:29,146 --> 00:52:30,412
- [Nathaniel] You mean
climate change deniers?
1118
00:52:30,414 --> 00:52:32,013
- Well, like there's more fires.
1119
00:52:32,015 --> 00:52:33,482
There's more earthquakes.
1120
00:52:33,484 --> 00:52:34,616
They're happening
more frequently.
1121
00:52:34,618 --> 00:52:36,351
There's more tornadoes.
1122
00:52:36,353 --> 00:52:37,819
- It's like, a
couple blocks away
1123
00:52:37,821 --> 00:52:40,289
there's big trees that
are down, roots up.
1124
00:52:40,291 --> 00:52:42,291
- And there's
another cell coming
1125
00:52:42,293 --> 00:52:44,159
that looks just as
bad as last night's.
1126
00:52:44,161 --> 00:52:45,561
- It's bad.
1127
00:52:45,563 --> 00:52:47,028
- And there it is.
1128
00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:47,963
- Yeah, there's another
storm coming, yeah.
1129
00:52:47,965 --> 00:52:49,631
- [Maggie] Yeah, another one.
1130
00:52:49,633 --> 00:52:51,367
We're battening up the hatches.
1131
00:52:53,036 --> 00:52:56,171
Hi, I'm just leaving
the farmer's market.
1132
00:52:56,173 --> 00:52:58,373
Could you look at the radar
1133
00:52:58,375 --> 00:53:01,042
and plan what to
do with the bees?
1134
00:53:01,044 --> 00:53:04,513
- We're on the blue dot and
it's moving in our direction.
1135
00:53:04,515 --> 00:53:06,448
It looks pretty bad.
1136
00:53:06,450 --> 00:53:07,582
- [Alex Jones Radio Announcer]
The latest climate data
1137
00:53:07,584 --> 00:53:09,384
that broke last week proved that
1138
00:53:09,386 --> 00:53:12,021
the whole environmental
movement is a power grab.
1139
00:53:13,056 --> 00:53:15,457
The global warmists are a cult.
1140
00:53:15,459 --> 00:53:17,993
- Thanks for being open.
- Yeah.
1141
00:53:17,995 --> 00:53:20,529
- Amidst the storms here.
1142
00:53:20,531 --> 00:53:21,930
So this is beautiful.
1143
00:53:21,932 --> 00:53:23,665
- [Salesperson] We can
put it together for you.
1144
00:53:23,667 --> 00:53:25,066
- [Maggie] It's been
a while since I've
1145
00:53:25,068 --> 00:53:27,002
been shooting and
I really miss it.
1146
00:53:27,004 --> 00:53:28,470
- Yeah, you used to shoot a lot.
1147
00:53:28,472 --> 00:53:29,538
- [Maggie] I need
to do it again.
1148
00:53:29,540 --> 00:53:30,940
- Before, didn't you?
1149
00:53:30,942 --> 00:53:32,808
- [Maggie] Yeah, I've
been writing proposals
1150
00:53:32,810 --> 00:53:34,810
to the federal government
to fund my teams to fly
1151
00:53:34,812 --> 00:53:38,013
space missions and look for
life on other planets and--
1152
00:53:38,015 --> 00:53:39,615
- [Salesperson] Yeah,
have you found it yet?
1153
00:53:39,617 --> 00:53:44,285
- No, but we're
getting ever closer.
1154
00:53:44,287 --> 00:53:45,754
- [Salesperson] Do you believe
there's life out there?
1155
00:53:45,756 --> 00:53:47,422
- I feel like, how
can there not be?
1156
00:53:47,424 --> 00:53:49,158
This one planet
is so full of it.
1157
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:54,095
It's hard to imagine how
that could happen here,
1158
00:53:54,097 --> 00:53:56,765
so richly, and then
everywhere else
1159
00:53:56,767 --> 00:53:59,434
in the whole universe
is just a sterile rock.
1160
00:53:59,436 --> 00:54:03,772
Surely life arises when
the conditions are right.
1161
00:54:03,774 --> 00:54:05,841
- Hmm, it's interesting topic.
1162
00:54:05,843 --> 00:54:07,309
- [Maggie] Yeah.
1163
00:54:07,311 --> 00:54:09,845
- Yeah, I started
listening to some podcasts.
1164
00:54:09,847 --> 00:54:11,180
I know he's very controversial,
1165
00:54:11,182 --> 00:54:13,114
but I was listening
to one with Alex Jones
1166
00:54:13,116 --> 00:54:15,250
and some of the
stuff he talks about
1167
00:54:15,252 --> 00:54:17,986
was like really,
really interesting.
1168
00:54:17,988 --> 00:54:19,988
If there is other life forms,
1169
00:54:19,990 --> 00:54:22,191
not just humans or aliens or
1170
00:54:22,193 --> 00:54:24,393
it could be plants or
anything, you know,
1171
00:54:24,395 --> 00:54:28,664
just something else out
there besides our Earth.
1172
00:54:28,666 --> 00:54:31,667
- [Alex Jones] San Francisco
is the main project site.
1173
00:54:31,669 --> 00:54:34,870
Literally have an
alien base and they are
1174
00:54:34,872 --> 00:54:37,005
literally communicating
and they've got like
1175
00:54:37,007 --> 00:54:39,875
astronaut level people
taking super hardcore
1176
00:54:39,877 --> 00:54:42,544
levels of drugs and going into
meetings with these things
1177
00:54:42,546 --> 00:54:44,446
and making intergalactic deals.
1178
00:54:47,751 --> 00:54:50,085
- [Alien] You didn't
actually think you were
1179
00:54:50,087 --> 00:54:51,687
the only inhabited
planet in the universe?
1180
00:54:51,689 --> 00:54:53,122
- Shh, listen.
1181
00:54:55,026 --> 00:54:57,226
- Uh, I'm from SETI,
1182
00:54:57,228 --> 00:54:59,662
Search for Extraterrestrial
Intelligence.
1183
00:55:05,502 --> 00:55:07,036
(Jill laughing)
1184
00:55:07,038 --> 00:55:08,169
- [Nathaniel] So if
the aliens get here,
1185
00:55:08,171 --> 00:55:09,971
are they going to wipe us out?
1186
00:55:09,973 --> 00:55:12,908
- Well, I think that
if they can get here,
1187
00:55:12,910 --> 00:55:14,443
that means that their technology
1188
00:55:14,445 --> 00:55:16,177
is significantly
in advance of ours.
1189
00:55:16,179 --> 00:55:18,513
So they're older than we are.
1190
00:55:18,515 --> 00:55:21,050
And how did they get to be old?
1191
00:55:21,052 --> 00:55:25,520
Because they outgrew
all of the aggression
1192
00:55:25,522 --> 00:55:28,457
that was probably part
of their evolution
1193
00:55:28,459 --> 00:55:30,259
to become intelligent.
1194
00:55:30,261 --> 00:55:34,329
We show many different
indications that
we won't make it.
1195
00:55:34,331 --> 00:55:37,733
That we will in fact
do ourselves in before
1196
00:55:37,735 --> 00:55:41,070
we become an old
technological civilization.
1197
00:55:41,072 --> 00:55:44,806
So if they can get here,
I'm more inclined to
1198
00:55:44,808 --> 00:55:46,942
talk with them rather
than worry about
1199
00:55:46,944 --> 00:55:48,177
them eating me for breakfast.
1200
00:55:50,147 --> 00:55:53,949
I was sent last night, a link
to an old Johnny Carson show,
1201
00:55:53,951 --> 00:55:55,951
from the late 70s,
with Carl Sagan.
1202
00:55:55,953 --> 00:55:57,486
- I mean, here he
is, a professor of
1203
00:55:57,488 --> 00:55:59,888
astronomy and space
sciences at Cornell.
1204
00:55:59,890 --> 00:56:01,823
Director of the Laboratory
for Planetary Study.
1205
00:56:01,825 --> 00:56:03,726
Would you welcome
please Dr. Carl Sagan.
1206
00:56:05,763 --> 00:56:07,529
- [Jill] This is just about
reaching the Trappist system.
1207
00:56:09,300 --> 00:56:10,699
- [Johnny Carson]
You're looking for
1208
00:56:10,701 --> 00:56:12,167
extraterrestrial
intelligence, right?
1209
00:56:12,169 --> 00:56:13,902
How do you go about looking?
1210
00:56:13,904 --> 00:56:15,771
- It's little like
this. If you're an
1211
00:56:15,773 --> 00:56:18,173
advanced civilization and
you wish to communicate
1212
00:56:18,175 --> 00:56:22,644
to a backward civilization,
you talk slow and simple.
1213
00:56:22,646 --> 00:56:24,980
- [Johnny Carson] And
obviously we would be
1214
00:56:24,982 --> 00:56:26,114
the backward
civilization because
1215
00:56:26,116 --> 00:56:27,983
we do not have that capability.
1216
00:56:27,985 --> 00:56:30,051
(audience laughs)
1217
00:56:30,053 --> 00:56:31,987
People are going to ask
you, "What is the value?"
1218
00:56:31,989 --> 00:56:35,124
- We are at a very dangerous
moment in human history.
1219
00:56:35,126 --> 00:56:39,795
We are in the process
of inadvertently
altering our climate
1220
00:56:39,797 --> 00:56:43,332
and all kinds of problems,
which come with technology.
1221
00:56:43,334 --> 00:56:45,667
We are not certain that
we will be able to survive
1222
00:56:45,669 --> 00:56:48,670
this period that I like to
call technological adolescence.
1223
00:56:48,672 --> 00:56:52,073
But were we to receive a
message from somewhere else,
1224
00:56:52,075 --> 00:56:54,075
it would show that it's possible
1225
00:56:54,077 --> 00:56:55,677
to survive this kind of period.
1226
00:56:55,679 --> 00:56:57,278
- [Johnny Carson] Now
wouldn't that be something.
1227
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,014
In other words
somebody has solved
1228
00:56:59,016 --> 00:57:01,016
a particular problem we
are still wrestling with.
1229
00:57:01,018 --> 00:57:03,151
- [Carl Sagan] It's good to
know the problem can be solved.
1230
00:57:03,153 --> 00:57:04,553
I think it would be very useful.
1231
00:57:07,424 --> 00:57:09,224
- [Nathaniel] We going to
find them in your lifetime?
1232
00:57:11,028 --> 00:57:13,294
- [Jill] I don't know how
long I'm going to live.
1233
00:57:13,296 --> 00:57:15,230
I know we're going
to try and look.
1234
00:57:15,232 --> 00:57:16,565
- [Nathaniel] We keep trying.
1235
00:57:16,567 --> 00:57:17,232
- [Jill] We do
keep trying trying.
1236
00:57:20,904 --> 00:57:22,971
(epic music)
1237
00:57:38,855 --> 00:57:41,523
- [Jon] The James Webb Telescope
will achieve its mission,
1238
00:57:41,525 --> 00:57:43,324
but we have to go through
all of the engineering
1239
00:57:43,326 --> 00:57:44,793
and all the checkouts
to make sure
1240
00:57:44,795 --> 00:57:46,829
that that is indeed a fact.
1241
00:57:49,066 --> 00:57:51,266
Eventually we'll go all the
way through the Panama Canal
1242
00:57:51,268 --> 00:57:54,335
to French Guiana where
the Europeans have
their launch site.
1243
00:57:54,337 --> 00:57:56,204
And they're providing the
rocket and the Telescope
1244
00:57:56,206 --> 00:57:58,139
will go up from
there a million miles
1245
00:57:58,141 --> 00:57:59,842
out into space and
get ready to work.
1246
00:58:04,481 --> 00:58:06,815
- [Jon] This is where we're
going to test the telescope
1247
00:58:06,817 --> 00:58:09,318
and its detectors in a
space-like environment.
1248
00:58:11,088 --> 00:58:14,223
Chamber A was originally
built for the Apollo program
1249
00:58:16,093 --> 00:58:18,861
to test the command module
with the astronauts in it.
1250
00:58:20,431 --> 00:58:22,297
We're here building
on the legacy that
1251
00:58:22,299 --> 00:58:24,032
the country built in the 60s.
1252
00:58:24,034 --> 00:58:25,967
- Ladies and
gentlemen, Mr. Webb,
1253
00:58:25,969 --> 00:58:28,169
the director of
the space program.
1254
00:58:28,171 --> 00:58:30,239
- Ladies and gentlemen--
1255
00:58:30,241 --> 00:58:33,775
- James Webb was the
administrator early
on in NASA's life,
1256
00:58:33,777 --> 00:58:36,044
during the early stages
of the Apollo program,
1257
00:58:36,046 --> 00:58:38,313
working with Kennedy to
establish that program
1258
00:58:38,315 --> 00:58:40,449
to get us up to
landing on the moon.
1259
00:58:40,451 --> 00:58:43,051
It was that commitment
to science that he had.
1260
00:58:46,790 --> 00:58:48,790
Now, we still have a bunch of
1261
00:58:48,792 --> 00:58:50,725
environmental testings
that we have to do,
1262
00:58:50,727 --> 00:58:53,662
vibration testing and
acoustics testing,
1263
00:58:53,664 --> 00:58:55,196
because what we want
to do is make sure
1264
00:58:55,198 --> 00:58:56,931
now it survives
the rocket launch,
1265
00:58:56,933 --> 00:58:58,700
which is still the most violent
environment that we see.
1266
00:59:03,474 --> 00:59:05,206
- [Scott] We bring it in here,
1267
00:59:05,208 --> 00:59:08,610
the sunshield in its
stowed cocoon state.
1268
00:59:08,612 --> 00:59:12,681
We subject this to the
sound noise of the rocket.
1269
00:59:14,351 --> 00:59:18,153
Because when the rocket launches
it doesn't just vibrate,
1270
00:59:18,155 --> 00:59:19,922
it also hits you
with sound waves.
1271
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,360
And it pushes on
you with pressure.
1272
00:59:25,362 --> 00:59:27,963
And we need to prove that our
vehicle will survive that.
1273
00:59:27,965 --> 00:59:30,365
So we hit this thing
with what's called
1274
00:59:30,367 --> 00:59:33,168
protoflight acoustic test levels
1275
00:59:33,170 --> 00:59:36,237
and we run it across
a frequency spectrum.
1276
00:59:36,239 --> 00:59:39,207
(oscillating sound)
1277
00:59:40,310 --> 00:59:42,945
(alarm blaring)
1278
00:59:48,318 --> 00:59:50,852
- We found a screw and a nut.
1279
00:59:50,854 --> 00:59:54,656
We had a few dozen that
actually separated in this test
1280
00:59:54,658 --> 00:59:57,159
because there's a thousand
of these little screws.
1281
00:59:59,730 --> 01:00:01,462
You know, there's probably
a lot of people on
1282
01:00:01,464 --> 01:00:03,198
high floors of buildings
waiting to hear
1283
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,399
that Webb has made it today.
1284
01:00:05,936 --> 01:00:07,468
We're kind of in,
say, one of the
1285
01:00:07,470 --> 01:00:08,937
more humbling
points on a career,
1286
01:00:08,939 --> 01:00:11,339
when you know you
have to go tell people
1287
01:00:11,341 --> 01:00:13,108
that test wasn't successful.
1288
01:00:18,949 --> 01:00:20,983
(gavel banging)
1289
01:00:22,886 --> 01:00:24,920
- The Subcommittee on Space
will now come to order.
1290
01:00:26,690 --> 01:00:28,557
Today's hearing we'll
focus on the serious issues
1291
01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:32,093
associated with the James
Webb Space Telescope.
1292
01:00:32,095 --> 01:00:36,097
- When we integrated
the spacecraft element
and did testing,
1293
01:00:36,099 --> 01:00:38,567
we made all kinds of discoveries
that were unfortunate
1294
01:00:38,569 --> 01:00:40,902
and not just
unfortunate, problematic.
1295
01:00:40,904 --> 01:00:44,172
- Although I've heard
testimony how important it is.
1296
01:00:44,174 --> 01:00:45,707
I understand that.
1297
01:00:45,709 --> 01:00:49,044
It's very frustrating to
me and other taxpayers
1298
01:00:49,046 --> 01:00:51,780
that this is so much
of a cost overrun.
1299
01:00:51,782 --> 01:00:54,983
- Every screw has to
have its quality tested.
1300
01:00:54,985 --> 01:00:57,252
I can tell you,
this is about the
1301
01:00:57,254 --> 01:00:59,520
biggest screw job
I've ever seen.
1302
01:00:59,522 --> 01:01:02,724
And it's the taxpayers who
are getting screwed here.
1303
01:01:02,726 --> 01:01:06,127
- We want to make these
mistakes here on Earth
1304
01:01:06,129 --> 01:01:08,663
because that mistake,
if it was in space,
1305
01:01:08,665 --> 01:01:10,198
it would be too late.
1306
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:11,299
It can't be fixed.
1307
01:01:12,469 --> 01:01:14,970
(soft music)
1308
01:01:27,350 --> 01:01:28,416
- Once we install it, it's there
1309
01:01:28,418 --> 01:01:29,851
for the rest of the mission.
1310
01:01:32,489 --> 01:01:34,489
So we've got to get it
right the first time.
1311
01:01:34,491 --> 01:01:36,958
- And then it gets ready to go?
1312
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,226
- [Jon] It's still got
a lot more testing.
1313
01:01:38,228 --> 01:01:40,028
- Oh.
1314
01:01:40,030 --> 01:01:42,030
- And assembly to
withstand launch.
1315
01:01:42,032 --> 01:01:45,500
- [Jon's Mom] Now all I have
to do is live to see it go.
1316
01:01:45,502 --> 01:01:47,235
- [Jon] No, you got
to make it till your
1317
01:01:47,237 --> 01:01:49,037
grandchildren get
out of college.
1318
01:01:49,039 --> 01:01:51,306
And that will happen
after we launch.
1319
01:01:51,308 --> 01:01:52,074
- That's true.
1320
01:02:13,930 --> 01:02:15,730
- [Nathaniel] What do
you think about when you
1321
01:02:15,732 --> 01:02:18,066
contemplate our cousins
and our ancestors?
1322
01:02:18,068 --> 01:02:19,434
- Mortality.
1323
01:02:20,871 --> 01:02:22,437
- [Nathaniel]
Well, as a species?
1324
01:02:23,940 --> 01:02:28,176
- Well, I mean it's
more and more clear that
1325
01:02:29,746 --> 01:02:31,480
you know, looking
at these skulls,
1326
01:02:31,482 --> 01:02:36,417
that there have been
numerous human species
1327
01:02:36,419 --> 01:02:38,353
and they've all gone
extinct apart from us,
1328
01:02:38,355 --> 01:02:42,557
usually because of us, usually
after interbreeding with us.
1329
01:02:42,559 --> 01:02:45,426
Do you feel some guilt when you
look into those ice sockets?
1330
01:02:45,428 --> 01:02:46,128
I do.
1331
01:02:47,698 --> 01:02:49,297
Why?
1332
01:02:49,299 --> 01:02:51,032
Because we know
about this history.
1333
01:02:51,034 --> 01:02:53,434
There's some guilt in
human history in the way
1334
01:02:53,436 --> 01:02:57,572
that we've dealt with
other human species.
1335
01:02:57,574 --> 01:03:02,243
Our own history dealing,
different racial
history and so on.
1336
01:03:02,245 --> 01:03:04,045
We need to learn.
1337
01:03:04,047 --> 01:03:05,947
How do we bring the best side
out in our own societies?
1338
01:03:09,452 --> 01:03:11,452
You know, we're within
touching distance of
1339
01:03:11,454 --> 01:03:14,188
at least finding out.
1340
01:03:14,190 --> 01:03:17,926
And the idea that we might
find life is an exciting one.
1341
01:03:17,928 --> 01:03:20,461
Though, what do we
expect to see out there?
1342
01:03:20,463 --> 01:03:22,263
If it's not nothing,
1343
01:03:22,265 --> 01:03:24,465
the overwhelming likelihood
is it's bacteria.
1344
01:03:24,467 --> 01:03:27,668
And if we see somehow that
we've got way beyond bacteria
1345
01:03:27,670 --> 01:03:31,205
to large complex
life, that means this.
1346
01:03:31,207 --> 01:03:33,341
It means microscopic life.
1347
01:03:33,343 --> 01:03:34,810
It means tiny animals.
1348
01:03:35,746 --> 01:03:37,546
It's a wealth of life.
1349
01:03:37,548 --> 01:03:39,614
And yet, somehow I think most
people will be disappointed
1350
01:03:39,616 --> 01:03:43,151
if all they found was
microscopic sludge.
1351
01:03:43,153 --> 01:03:44,685
- [Nathaniel] Would
you be disappointed?
1352
01:03:44,687 --> 01:03:48,623
- No, I think I would be
astonished to find that.
1353
01:03:48,625 --> 01:03:51,660
To find anything more than
bacteria, I would be astonished.
1354
01:03:54,565 --> 01:03:57,632
Perhaps part of the point of
looking out there for life
1355
01:03:57,634 --> 01:03:59,500
is to realize just how valuable
1356
01:03:59,502 --> 01:04:00,802
the life is that we have here.
1357
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,341
(haunting music)
1358
01:04:12,715 --> 01:04:16,050
- Physically, evolution
made us, biology made us
1359
01:04:16,052 --> 01:04:19,320
but the things of biology
were created in stars.
1360
01:04:19,322 --> 01:04:22,723
The water, the carbon,
the nitrogen, the oxygen.
1361
01:04:22,725 --> 01:04:24,559
All of that was
created in stars.
1362
01:04:26,930 --> 01:04:28,596
People will say,
"Well, if there are
1363
01:04:28,598 --> 01:04:30,799
10 to the 22 stars out there,
1364
01:04:30,801 --> 01:04:32,834
there must be more
life than just us."
1365
01:04:34,737 --> 01:04:36,805
However, it turns out the
number of coincidences
1366
01:04:36,807 --> 01:04:38,739
that have to occur
for life to emerge
1367
01:04:38,741 --> 01:04:40,442
is also a very large number.
1368
01:04:42,078 --> 01:04:44,545
We have to have a
star like our sun
1369
01:04:44,547 --> 01:04:47,148
that lives at least
10 billion years old.
1370
01:04:47,150 --> 01:04:48,683
It has to be in
exactly the right
1371
01:04:48,685 --> 01:04:50,618
part of the galaxy
to start with.
1372
01:04:50,620 --> 01:04:52,287
We might need to have a moon.
1373
01:04:52,289 --> 01:04:54,222
We might need to
have geothermal,
1374
01:04:54,224 --> 01:04:56,491
cause we need a magnetic
field to protect us.
1375
01:04:56,493 --> 01:04:59,160
And then evolution
had to happen.
1376
01:04:59,162 --> 01:05:00,829
And then you keep
on going and, well,
1377
01:05:00,831 --> 01:05:02,563
you know, the dinosaurs evolved
and they were around for,
1378
01:05:02,565 --> 01:05:04,432
I don't know, 100,
200 million years.
1379
01:05:04,434 --> 01:05:06,100
Nothing happened.
1380
01:05:06,102 --> 01:05:07,635
They didn't evolve
into anything.
1381
01:05:07,637 --> 01:05:09,170
They got bigger and
bigger and bigger.
1382
01:05:09,172 --> 01:05:10,905
And then the meteor came
and wiped them all out.
1383
01:05:10,907 --> 01:05:14,575
And then these small warm
blooded animals evolved to us.
1384
01:05:14,577 --> 01:05:16,310
But that was an accident.
1385
01:05:16,312 --> 01:05:17,512
How many accidents
need to happen
1386
01:05:17,514 --> 01:05:19,380
for intelligent life to form?
1387
01:05:19,382 --> 01:05:21,917
We just don't know because we
only have us, the one example.
1388
01:05:23,786 --> 01:05:27,188
It might only be one part in
10 to the 22 that life emerged.
1389
01:05:27,190 --> 01:05:28,456
So we could actually be alone.
1390
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,067
- And you know, I had
all these accomplishments
1391
01:05:39,069 --> 01:05:42,403
I became a professor
and then I got married.
1392
01:05:42,405 --> 01:05:43,872
I had like the perfect husband,
1393
01:05:43,874 --> 01:05:46,006
perfect kids and
the perfect house.
1394
01:05:46,008 --> 01:05:47,408
I had everything.
1395
01:05:47,410 --> 01:05:48,877
And I had such a great life.
1396
01:05:48,879 --> 01:05:50,745
And then my husband
got sick and he died.
1397
01:05:53,283 --> 01:05:54,883
And so after that,
what do you do?
1398
01:05:56,286 --> 01:05:57,818
What do you do next?
1399
01:05:57,820 --> 01:05:59,687
Like you can't return to
your everyday existence
1400
01:05:59,689 --> 01:06:01,155
and just like cook dinner.
1401
01:06:01,157 --> 01:06:02,891
Which I never did
and I still don't.
1402
01:06:02,893 --> 01:06:05,760
But it's just the sort of
thing that you can relate to.
1403
01:06:05,762 --> 01:06:07,428
You know, I just
can't explain it
1404
01:06:07,430 --> 01:06:08,829
but the everyday
normal things you do,
1405
01:06:08,831 --> 01:06:10,332
they're just meaningless.
1406
01:06:13,436 --> 01:06:14,769
I went to my book club
and the women were
1407
01:06:14,771 --> 01:06:16,637
complaining about
their husbands.
1408
01:06:16,639 --> 01:06:17,772
Like, "Who's gonna
pick up the kid?"
1409
01:06:17,774 --> 01:06:19,974
And I'm like, "Give me a break."
1410
01:06:19,976 --> 01:06:23,511
You know, I just couldn't live
with normal people anymore.
1411
01:06:23,513 --> 01:06:25,513
I realized that whatever
I was going to do next
1412
01:06:25,515 --> 01:06:26,647
would be impactful.
1413
01:06:26,649 --> 01:06:27,415
Why waste time?
1414
01:06:34,791 --> 01:06:36,925
Out of all my
accomplishments in life,
1415
01:06:36,927 --> 01:06:38,593
helping my husband have a death,
1416
01:06:38,595 --> 01:06:40,729
like a perfect death, was
probably my biggest one.
1417
01:06:43,333 --> 01:06:45,533
It was really sad
when I, when he,
1418
01:06:47,270 --> 01:06:49,069
it's sort of funny but
sad, but I told him
1419
01:06:49,071 --> 01:06:50,805
before he died his death
would have meaning and that,
1420
01:06:50,807 --> 01:06:55,377
you know, I'm trying to
describe it in a way that
1421
01:06:56,947 --> 01:06:57,112
will be funny,
but it's too hard.
1422
01:07:02,953 --> 01:07:04,352
Well, just give me
a second cause I
1423
01:07:04,354 --> 01:07:06,287
really want to tell
you, it's really funny.
1424
01:07:06,289 --> 01:07:08,022
It was like, "Mike, you
know your death has meaning.
1425
01:07:08,024 --> 01:07:10,091
I'm going to do big things
because I've realized
1426
01:07:10,093 --> 01:07:12,394
it's, you know,
things that matter."
1427
01:07:14,431 --> 01:07:16,564
And he just like, it was funny
cause he could barely talk.
1428
01:07:16,566 --> 01:07:17,832
Like if you know
anyone who's dying,
1429
01:07:17,834 --> 01:07:19,634
they're not able to communicate.
1430
01:07:19,636 --> 01:07:21,102
And he just looks
at me and goes,
1431
01:07:21,104 --> 01:07:22,404
"Sarah, you would
have done it anyway."
1432
01:07:23,974 --> 01:07:26,007
And that was one of
our last conversations.
1433
01:07:34,517 --> 01:07:35,916
It's not that I have to
1434
01:07:35,918 --> 01:07:37,385
find the Earth and
name it after him.
1435
01:07:37,387 --> 01:07:39,053
It's more of the
search for meaning
1436
01:07:39,055 --> 01:07:40,855
and how to live
a meaningful life
1437
01:07:40,857 --> 01:07:43,724
and how to do something that
actually makes a difference.
1438
01:07:43,726 --> 01:07:44,626
That's his legacy.
1439
01:07:47,063 --> 01:07:48,663
I have to have meaning.
1440
01:07:48,665 --> 01:07:50,531
I have to do something
that has some importance
1441
01:07:50,533 --> 01:07:52,434
as seen by myself because
otherwise I have nothing.
1442
01:07:53,736 --> 01:07:54,869
Does that make sense?
1443
01:08:16,226 --> 01:08:18,693
- So, can I just be
really blunt with you?
1444
01:08:18,695 --> 01:08:20,761
- [Nathaniel] Sure.
1445
01:08:20,763 --> 01:08:24,732
- While I understand there's
a longer story arc to this,
1446
01:08:26,503 --> 01:08:28,836
this very complicated and
very expensive mission
1447
01:08:28,838 --> 01:08:30,905
that has been delayed yet again.
1448
01:08:33,043 --> 01:08:35,243
I can shoot bull's
eyes all day and then
1449
01:08:35,245 --> 01:08:36,844
as soon as somebody
comes along and says,
1450
01:08:36,846 --> 01:08:39,580
"Oh, you're doing
really well," it's over.
1451
01:08:39,582 --> 01:08:40,849
No, I won't hit a thing.
1452
01:08:44,054 --> 01:08:47,455
At some point, the only
thing that can save you
1453
01:08:47,457 --> 01:08:49,457
would be somebody high
level in the administration
1454
01:08:49,459 --> 01:08:52,593
who just says, "We're
devoting the resources."
1455
01:08:52,595 --> 01:08:54,662
And Congress would
have to back that up.
1456
01:08:56,799 --> 01:08:59,267
If you're going to do
something, just do it right.
1457
01:08:59,269 --> 01:09:00,935
- [Visitor] Now, see there's,
that's good, that's good.
1458
01:09:00,937 --> 01:09:04,939
- Yeah, so that's more
accurate and precise.
1459
01:09:06,676 --> 01:09:09,810
We only have, not only
just one precious planet,
1460
01:09:09,812 --> 01:09:14,882
it's this time, the
specific time of now,
1461
01:09:14,884 --> 01:09:17,017
where we have to live.
1462
01:09:17,019 --> 01:09:18,619
What are you tasting?
1463
01:09:18,621 --> 01:09:19,754
What are you tasting?
1464
01:09:19,756 --> 01:09:21,422
Tasting something?
1465
01:09:21,424 --> 01:09:23,858
It's taking the salt off
my fingers right now.
1466
01:09:26,229 --> 01:09:28,963
I hope, you know, for
the sake of all of us,
1467
01:09:28,965 --> 01:09:32,366
I hope that JW just gets
off the ground, flies,
1468
01:09:32,368 --> 01:09:35,035
and does well at
everything that it does
1469
01:09:35,037 --> 01:09:37,105
and performs all
of its objectives.
1470
01:09:41,711 --> 01:09:43,912
(bird chirping)
1471
01:09:43,914 --> 01:09:46,246
(phone ringing)
1472
01:09:46,248 --> 01:09:47,247
- [Natasha] Hey.
1473
01:09:47,249 --> 01:09:48,849
- [Hannah] Hello.
1474
01:09:48,851 --> 01:09:50,585
- So it sounds like
we should stick with
1475
01:09:50,587 --> 01:09:52,520
Trappist-1E and then look
at this plan in detail
1476
01:09:52,522 --> 01:09:54,455
and make sure that
we have it finalized.
1477
01:09:54,457 --> 01:09:56,857
- This is our observation
plan, you mean?
1478
01:09:56,859 --> 01:09:58,659
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
1479
01:09:58,661 --> 01:10:00,728
It's going to be a really good
test of the telescope itself.
1480
01:10:00,730 --> 01:10:03,664
- I'd be really interested
to understand, you know,
1481
01:10:03,666 --> 01:10:06,601
if they are tidally
locked, like the moon.
1482
01:10:06,603 --> 01:10:08,202
Like, what that means for having
1483
01:10:08,204 --> 01:10:10,538
a permanent day and a
permanent night side.
1484
01:10:10,540 --> 01:10:13,141
- There would be some people
who would constantly be
1485
01:10:13,143 --> 01:10:14,875
living in daylight
and then other people
1486
01:10:14,877 --> 01:10:17,278
who would be constantly
living in darkness?
1487
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,348
- Right and the best place
to be on these planets
1488
01:10:20,350 --> 01:10:23,484
would probably be
perpetual twilight, right?
1489
01:10:23,486 --> 01:10:25,686
Or right around the--
- Right, right at the rim.
1490
01:10:25,688 --> 01:10:27,622
- [Nikole] And what
that would be like,
1491
01:10:27,624 --> 01:10:30,290
because living in the arctic
and you living through
1492
01:10:30,292 --> 01:10:33,828
perpetual twilight, it's
a very strange experience.
1493
01:10:33,830 --> 01:10:35,163
- [Natasha] Do we know what
1494
01:10:35,165 --> 01:10:36,764
the temperature
differences would be?
1495
01:10:36,766 --> 01:10:37,898
- [Nikole] As long
as there's air.
1496
01:10:37,900 --> 01:10:39,167
Air is very good.
1497
01:10:39,169 --> 01:10:40,401
They have substantial
atmospheres.
1498
01:10:41,904 --> 01:10:43,638
- [Hannah] My favorite
thing about Trappist
1499
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,439
is that if you're on the
surface of one of the planets
1500
01:10:45,441 --> 01:10:48,643
you can see the other
planets resolved in the sky.
1501
01:10:48,645 --> 01:10:50,778
- [Natasha] Yeah, bigger
than the moon, right?
1502
01:10:50,780 --> 01:10:52,647
- So it would never
have been a question of,
1503
01:10:52,649 --> 01:10:54,816
you know, is the Earth,
the center of the universe?
1504
01:10:56,052 --> 01:10:57,785
I mean, it's crazy to think that
1505
01:10:57,787 --> 01:10:59,720
Trappist being 39
light years away
1506
01:10:59,722 --> 01:11:02,790
means that they can
hear what we were doing
1507
01:11:02,792 --> 01:11:05,093
on radio and television
39 years ago.
1508
01:11:06,729 --> 01:11:09,197
The first years of
Reagan, Madonna.
1509
01:11:09,199 --> 01:11:10,798
What do you think
they think about us?
1510
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:12,266
Do you think that
they would think
1511
01:11:12,268 --> 01:11:14,468
that we're going in
the right direction?
1512
01:11:14,470 --> 01:11:17,205
- [Hannah] Interesting
question, I like that one.
1513
01:11:17,207 --> 01:11:19,340
- Well, so if they're
monitoring our culture,
1514
01:11:19,342 --> 01:11:21,141
they're also monitoring
like any sort of
1515
01:11:21,143 --> 01:11:24,278
atmospheric signals
as well, right?
1516
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:25,813
- [Nikole] Yeah.
1517
01:11:25,815 --> 01:11:27,615
- So they're probably
watching, you know,
1518
01:11:27,617 --> 01:11:29,149
our carbon dioxide
emissions and all of this
1519
01:11:29,151 --> 01:11:30,818
and probably thinking--
1520
01:11:30,820 --> 01:11:33,954
- "What are they
doing down there?"
1521
01:11:33,956 --> 01:11:37,292
(indistinct radio chatter)
1522
01:11:45,768 --> 01:11:48,503
(haunting music)
1523
01:12:07,523 --> 01:12:11,125
- [WHO Director General] We
cannot say this loudly enough
1524
01:12:11,127 --> 01:12:14,194
or clearly enough
or often enough.
1525
01:12:14,196 --> 01:12:18,466
All countries can still change
the course of this pandemic.
1526
01:12:20,202 --> 01:12:22,870
(haunting music)
1527
01:12:30,947 --> 01:12:33,848
(protesters chanting)
1528
01:12:37,687 --> 01:12:39,219
- [Protesters] There
is no planet B!
1529
01:12:39,221 --> 01:12:42,089
There is no planet B,
there is no planet B!
1530
01:12:42,091 --> 01:12:43,824
- If we destroy this planet,
1531
01:12:43,826 --> 01:12:45,025
there is no other
planet to go to.
1532
01:12:45,027 --> 01:12:46,894
We only have one planet.
1533
01:12:46,896 --> 01:12:48,629
- I want to be
able to have kids.
1534
01:12:48,631 --> 01:12:49,964
I want my kids to be able
to swim in the ocean,
1535
01:12:49,966 --> 01:12:51,499
climb mountains, be in nature.
1536
01:12:51,501 --> 01:12:54,168
- Even if there was
an inhabitable planet,
1537
01:12:54,170 --> 01:12:57,638
we're just gonna ruin it
like we're ruining this one.
1538
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:01,108
(protestors chanting)
1539
01:13:01,110 --> 01:13:02,710
- This is an emergency.
1540
01:13:02,712 --> 01:13:05,445
Our house is on fire.
1541
01:13:05,447 --> 01:13:08,649
(crowd cheering)
1542
01:13:08,651 --> 01:13:13,388
We deserve a safe future
and we demand a safe future.
1543
01:13:14,657 --> 01:13:17,124
Is that really too much to ask?
1544
01:13:17,126 --> 01:13:18,192
- [Crowd] No!
1545
01:13:33,809 --> 01:13:35,943
- [Matt] Hello,
nice to meet you.
1546
01:13:35,945 --> 01:13:37,611
- [Director Fausto]
Nice to meet you.
1547
01:13:37,613 --> 01:13:38,812
It's a pleasure
to have you here.
1548
01:13:38,814 --> 01:13:39,414
- [Matt] Thank you so much.
1549
01:13:56,432 --> 01:13:58,366
- [Nathaniel] But this was
the place that he was under--
1550
01:13:58,368 --> 01:14:00,100
- [Matt] He was under
house arrest for
1551
01:14:00,102 --> 01:14:02,370
starting a revolution that
people didn't want started.
1552
01:14:03,973 --> 01:14:05,373
- [Nathaniel] They
were afraid of it.
1553
01:14:05,375 --> 01:14:06,974
- [Matt] They were
afraid of what he saw.
1554
01:14:06,976 --> 01:14:08,576
They were afraid
of the fact that he
1555
01:14:08,578 --> 01:14:12,547
used observation to
upturn ancient wisdoms.
1556
01:14:19,321 --> 01:14:21,522
It isn't just that we're trying
1557
01:14:21,524 --> 01:14:23,391
to do amazing things
with telescopes,
1558
01:14:23,393 --> 01:14:25,125
look for other planets,
1559
01:14:25,127 --> 01:14:28,195
I mean, our generation,
my children are facing
1560
01:14:28,197 --> 01:14:31,098
real challenges on this planet.
1561
01:14:32,602 --> 01:14:35,269
How do we tackle
these global problems
1562
01:14:35,271 --> 01:14:38,840
which actually will affect
our own survival as a species?
1563
01:14:40,410 --> 01:14:43,277
It's going to take a
collective endeavor
1564
01:14:43,279 --> 01:14:44,612
with the type of groups we're
1565
01:14:44,614 --> 01:14:46,280
putting together
around the James Webb.
1566
01:14:46,282 --> 01:14:47,681
These are collaborative groups.
1567
01:14:47,683 --> 01:14:49,483
These are people who
want to work together.
1568
01:14:49,485 --> 01:14:51,885
It gives me hope
that we can change
1569
01:14:51,887 --> 01:14:53,754
the way we operate in the world.
1570
01:14:53,756 --> 01:14:56,890
Change the way we do
science, using data to say,
1571
01:14:56,892 --> 01:14:59,493
"Look what is
happening," and not just
1572
01:14:59,495 --> 01:15:01,228
going back and saying,
"I don't want to hear,"
1573
01:15:01,230 --> 01:15:02,930
or "I don't want to see."
1574
01:15:04,500 --> 01:15:06,033
Well, you know, they
said to Galileo,
1575
01:15:06,035 --> 01:15:08,302
"I don't want to hear,
I don't want to see."
1576
01:15:08,304 --> 01:15:10,237
And yes, they
sequestered him here
1577
01:15:10,239 --> 01:15:12,172
for the last 10
years of his life,
1578
01:15:12,174 --> 01:15:14,075
but here we are 400 years later
1579
01:15:15,311 --> 01:15:17,177
and we all know about Galileo
1580
01:15:17,179 --> 01:15:19,379
and we have to look up in
our history books to remember
1581
01:15:19,381 --> 01:15:22,582
who the Pope was that
actually put him away.
1582
01:15:22,584 --> 01:15:24,318
We remember Galileo.
1583
01:15:26,722 --> 01:15:28,523
I mean, Carl Sagan said it best.
1584
01:15:30,126 --> 01:15:31,391
It's going to take
us centuries to get
1585
01:15:31,393 --> 01:15:33,528
to the stars as a species.
1586
01:15:35,265 --> 01:15:38,532
And it's going to have to be
a better version of ourselves
1587
01:15:38,534 --> 01:15:41,269
to actually get that
far on this planet.
1588
01:15:48,478 --> 01:15:50,144
- Good morning, and welcome to
1589
01:15:50,146 --> 01:15:52,212
the second day of
the hearing entitled
1590
01:15:52,214 --> 01:15:54,815
"James Webb Space
Telescope Program
1591
01:15:54,817 --> 01:15:56,817
Breach and its Implications."
1592
01:15:56,819 --> 01:15:59,287
- We've had a lot of
discussion about cost
1593
01:15:59,289 --> 01:16:03,023
and the cost matters, but
I will tell you taxpayers
1594
01:16:03,025 --> 01:16:04,492
and all of us are way
more concerned about
1595
01:16:04,494 --> 01:16:06,360
value than cost at
the end of the day.
1596
01:16:06,362 --> 01:16:08,496
- James Webb should
continue based on its
1597
01:16:08,498 --> 01:16:10,430
extraordinary
scientific potential
1598
01:16:10,432 --> 01:16:12,300
and critical role in maintaining
1599
01:16:12,302 --> 01:16:15,369
US leadership in astronomy
and astrophysics.
1600
01:16:15,371 --> 01:16:18,172
Let's finish this incredibly
important project.
1601
01:16:18,174 --> 01:16:21,241
- Inspiring and challenging
projects such as the
1602
01:16:21,243 --> 01:16:26,046
James Webb Space Telescope are
an investment in our future.
1603
01:16:26,048 --> 01:16:29,317
We must not lose sight
of the importance
1604
01:16:29,319 --> 01:16:32,586
of bringing the James
Webb Space Telescope
1605
01:16:32,588 --> 01:16:34,589
to a successful outcome.
1606
01:16:48,204 --> 01:16:49,469
- All right, see you.
1607
01:16:49,471 --> 01:16:51,071
- See you, have a good day.
1608
01:16:51,073 --> 01:16:51,806
- I will.
1609
01:16:54,276 --> 01:16:55,676
- [Nathaniel] So this is like
1610
01:16:55,678 --> 01:16:56,944
the biggest day of
your career in a way.
1611
01:16:56,946 --> 01:16:58,145
(Amy laughs)
1612
01:16:58,147 --> 01:16:59,180
- [Amy] It's pretty big.
1613
01:17:00,750 --> 01:17:02,750
Been working seven
years towards this day.
1614
01:17:02,752 --> 01:17:06,486
So yeah, yeah, this
is going to be now
1615
01:17:06,488 --> 01:17:09,423
the James Webb Observatory.
1616
01:17:09,425 --> 01:17:11,892
Before, you know, it was like
this piece or that piece,
1617
01:17:11,894 --> 01:17:15,062
where now it's actually
all together one piece.
1618
01:17:18,034 --> 01:17:20,500
You can see the way it's going
to look when it's operating.
1619
01:17:20,502 --> 01:17:22,570
So yeah, it's kind
of a big deal.
1620
01:17:22,572 --> 01:17:24,504
Everyone's really excited.
1621
01:17:24,506 --> 01:17:27,575
The entire team's kind
of vibrating a little.
1622
01:17:32,982 --> 01:17:34,715
Ready.
1623
01:17:34,717 --> 01:17:36,316
- [Nathaniel] I'm not
allowed to follow you.
1624
01:17:36,318 --> 01:17:37,384
So this is goodbye, I guess.
1625
01:17:37,386 --> 01:17:38,318
Good luck.
1626
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:39,253
- See you in a bit.
1627
01:17:39,255 --> 01:17:39,820
Ah, come on.
1628
01:17:43,192 --> 01:17:44,392
Dennis, I can't get in.
1629
01:17:51,333 --> 01:17:52,833
Thank you, see y'all.
1630
01:18:00,542 --> 01:18:02,075
- You know, Amy
has worked with me
1631
01:18:02,077 --> 01:18:03,611
since she joined the company
1632
01:18:03,613 --> 01:18:06,080
and I wanted her
taking over alignments
1633
01:18:06,082 --> 01:18:09,083
because it requires attention
to detail and people skills
1634
01:18:09,085 --> 01:18:13,020
and innate genius that's
necessary to do it.
1635
01:18:13,022 --> 01:18:14,888
And today is the
culmination as we
1636
01:18:14,890 --> 01:18:16,690
see the system go together but
1637
01:18:16,692 --> 01:18:18,426
it's going to go
together precisely
1638
01:18:18,428 --> 01:18:21,629
and it's got to end up
where it's supposed to be.
1639
01:18:21,631 --> 01:18:23,897
And that's the job to which she
1640
01:18:23,899 --> 01:18:26,067
has been devoted for
these last seven years.
1641
01:18:28,438 --> 01:18:32,640
Every piece of hardware, 500
odd pieces of ground support,
1642
01:18:32,642 --> 01:18:34,875
have a story, have a
team that's been devoted.
1643
01:18:36,578 --> 01:18:39,280
When I mean an act of
collective genius, I mean it.
1644
01:18:45,655 --> 01:18:47,721
- Many people have spent a
big chunk of their careers
1645
01:18:47,723 --> 01:18:50,257
developing this system,
done a tremendous job,
1646
01:18:50,259 --> 01:18:53,460
and they're ready to
go and I'm ready to go.
1647
01:18:53,462 --> 01:18:56,330
It's just in our DNA to explore.
1648
01:18:56,332 --> 01:18:58,732
So as far as we
send satellites out,
1649
01:18:58,734 --> 01:19:01,468
I think we should be
willing to send humans out
1650
01:19:01,470 --> 01:19:03,070
but we have to
learn how to do it.
1651
01:19:04,674 --> 01:19:07,341
It takes putting our
minds and heads together
1652
01:19:07,343 --> 01:19:09,910
around a common goal, and
I think we can do anything.
1653
01:19:11,747 --> 01:19:13,247
And human space flight
is always pretty special.
1654
01:19:16,018 --> 01:19:18,552
And Webb is certainly
in the same category
1655
01:19:18,554 --> 01:19:21,555
as human space
flight in my mind.
1656
01:19:21,557 --> 01:19:23,423
So this is my capstone.
1657
01:19:23,425 --> 01:19:24,592
The Webb is my capstone.
1658
01:19:30,232 --> 01:19:31,765
- [Natalie] You
know, I'm moving.
1659
01:19:31,767 --> 01:19:34,101
So cleaning out my
garage I found this
1660
01:19:34,103 --> 01:19:36,704
old binder paper
that's from high school
1661
01:19:36,706 --> 01:19:39,607
and the theme was the
American frontier.
1662
01:19:41,110 --> 01:19:42,910
You have to remember
this was the 80s
1663
01:19:42,912 --> 01:19:45,513
so the backdrop of this was
the space shuttle program.
1664
01:19:45,515 --> 01:19:48,949
And so I titled this
speech, "Would You Go?"
1665
01:19:50,252 --> 01:19:53,587
"The year is 2010.
1666
01:19:53,589 --> 01:19:57,591
America has just begun the
settlement of a new state.
1667
01:19:57,593 --> 01:19:59,527
But where is this state?
1668
01:19:59,529 --> 01:20:04,532
On a distant planet where only
a few have ventured before."
1669
01:20:04,534 --> 01:20:05,665
- [Nathaniel] And it's
called "Would you Go?"
1670
01:20:05,667 --> 01:20:07,401
- It's called "Would You Go?"
1671
01:20:07,403 --> 01:20:08,402
With a question
mark and everything.
1672
01:20:08,404 --> 01:20:09,269
Yes.
1673
01:20:09,271 --> 01:20:10,604
(laughing)
1674
01:20:10,606 --> 01:20:11,805
- [Natasha] So would you?
1675
01:20:11,807 --> 01:20:13,473
- Well, here's the thing.
1676
01:20:13,475 --> 01:20:16,110
My current adult
thinking is that
1677
01:20:17,413 --> 01:20:20,147
as important as exploration is,
1678
01:20:22,351 --> 01:20:25,553
love is probably even more so.
1679
01:20:25,555 --> 01:20:27,621
- [Nathaniel] What about
you, Natasha, would you go?
1680
01:20:27,623 --> 01:20:29,156
- I don't know.
1681
01:20:29,158 --> 01:20:30,758
I think I'd have
to take my posse,
1682
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:32,225
all the people that
I love with me.
1683
01:20:32,227 --> 01:20:33,427
I wouldn't be able,
it wouldn't be
1684
01:20:33,429 --> 01:20:34,494
a thing that I would do alone.
1685
01:20:34,496 --> 01:20:35,829
I would have to take a,
1686
01:20:35,831 --> 01:20:38,165
I would have to take
my crew, you know?
1687
01:20:38,167 --> 01:20:41,435
- [Nathaniel] What about
you, Ellie, would you go?
1688
01:20:41,437 --> 01:20:42,569
- You know, it's
a good question.
1689
01:20:42,571 --> 01:20:44,571
I waffle on it all the time.
1690
01:20:44,573 --> 01:20:47,174
Going to Mars, you know?
1691
01:20:47,176 --> 01:20:48,175
It's tempting.
1692
01:20:49,645 --> 01:20:51,378
But still, I'd miss nature
1693
01:20:51,380 --> 01:20:52,980
in the way we have
it here on Earth.
1694
01:21:02,792 --> 01:21:04,391
- [Sara] For whatever
reason there's this thing.
1695
01:21:04,393 --> 01:21:05,592
I don't know if
this is true or not,
1696
01:21:05,594 --> 01:21:06,994
but you know if you meet someone
1697
01:21:06,996 --> 01:21:08,596
within two years of
when your husband died,
1698
01:21:08,598 --> 01:21:10,464
like two years is some
kind of magic number,
1699
01:21:10,466 --> 01:21:11,031
I don't know why.
1700
01:21:12,868 --> 01:21:14,401
And I was thinking, "My
two years is basically up.
1701
01:21:14,403 --> 01:21:15,202
So I guess it
didn't work for me."
1702
01:21:15,204 --> 01:21:16,670
Right?
1703
01:21:16,672 --> 01:21:18,405
So just before my
two year anniversary,
1704
01:21:18,407 --> 01:21:20,340
I was going to Canada.
1705
01:21:20,342 --> 01:21:22,742
I'd been invited to
give a keynote talk.
1706
01:21:22,744 --> 01:21:25,012
So I go to the
opening reception,
1707
01:21:25,014 --> 01:21:26,814
I see this guy across
the room and I'm like,
1708
01:21:26,816 --> 01:21:29,016
"Wow, who's that guy?
1709
01:21:29,018 --> 01:21:30,884
I have to meet him."
1710
01:21:30,886 --> 01:21:33,620
And after my talk, I go to the
cafeteria a little bit late
1711
01:21:33,622 --> 01:21:35,422
and there he is in the cafeteria
1712
01:21:35,424 --> 01:21:36,890
and he's with only
one other person.
1713
01:21:36,892 --> 01:21:38,558
And he's like, "Oh, do
you want to have lunch?"
1714
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,027
I'm like, "Sure."
1715
01:21:40,029 --> 01:21:41,895
So we go and sit down for lunch
and I'm thinking to myself,
1716
01:21:41,897 --> 01:21:45,833
"Wow, I can't believe I finally
get to talk to this guy."
1717
01:21:45,835 --> 01:21:48,068
I left to go home
and then we skyped.
1718
01:21:49,905 --> 01:21:51,705
In the very beginning
it was like,
1719
01:21:51,707 --> 01:21:53,707
"I don't know what to do with
this cause it's far away."
1720
01:21:53,709 --> 01:21:56,643
And then I'm thinking, "You
know, this is good for me.
1721
01:21:56,645 --> 01:21:57,577
I can crush on a guy.
1722
01:21:57,579 --> 01:21:59,312
I can just shut the computer
1723
01:21:59,314 --> 01:22:00,580
if I don't feel
like talking to him,
1724
01:22:00,582 --> 01:22:01,081
if it gets too personal."
1725
01:22:03,052 --> 01:22:05,519
In January, he was going
to London for work.
1726
01:22:05,521 --> 01:22:07,387
And he's like, "Sarah, I'm
going a few days early.
1727
01:22:07,389 --> 01:22:10,590
I hope you'll join me,
I want to invite you."
1728
01:22:10,592 --> 01:22:12,125
And I wasn't sure
what to do, but okay.
1729
01:22:12,127 --> 01:22:13,326
Of course I'm
going to go, right?
1730
01:22:13,328 --> 01:22:15,128
So I go to London and I'm like,
1731
01:22:15,130 --> 01:22:16,596
"Wow, I don't know, are
we boyfriend, girlfriend?"
1732
01:22:16,598 --> 01:22:17,865
I'm not really sure.
1733
01:22:17,867 --> 01:22:19,867
I'm just like, "Oh my God, like,
1734
01:22:19,869 --> 01:22:21,335
when am I going to
get my first kiss?"
1735
01:22:21,337 --> 01:22:22,802
You know, here I'm
like a grownup here.
1736
01:22:22,804 --> 01:22:24,505
This is ridiculous, right?
1737
01:22:26,208 --> 01:22:27,741
After dinner one night
he takes me on a walk.
1738
01:22:27,743 --> 01:22:29,142
It's like raining cause you know
1739
01:22:29,144 --> 01:22:30,878
in London it's always miserable.
1740
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:31,811
And there we are in front
of Buckingham Palace
1741
01:22:31,813 --> 01:22:33,547
and I got my first kiss.
1742
01:22:33,549 --> 01:22:35,415
And after that, it really was,
1743
01:22:35,417 --> 01:22:37,484
it felt like the romance
of the millennium.
1744
01:22:48,764 --> 01:22:50,564
- Time is a very funny thing.
1745
01:22:50,566 --> 01:22:54,968
And particularly the
disconnect between human time,
1746
01:22:54,970 --> 01:22:59,306
geological time and
cosmic time, right?
1747
01:22:59,308 --> 01:23:03,310
We don't interface very well
with those longer timescales.
1748
01:23:05,247 --> 01:23:10,117
And thinking about the far
future is really difficult.
1749
01:23:14,256 --> 01:23:17,390
But if we're going to
have a long future,
1750
01:23:17,392 --> 01:23:19,927
we've got to outgrow
all the kind of
1751
01:23:19,929 --> 01:23:22,396
aggressive tendencies
and think about
1752
01:23:22,398 --> 01:23:25,465
what kind of place
that would be,
1753
01:23:25,467 --> 01:23:27,568
where people actually valued
1754
01:23:29,405 --> 01:23:33,107
all life and took care of
themselves, one another.
1755
01:23:35,677 --> 01:23:38,012
(intense music)
1756
01:23:44,086 --> 01:23:45,819
- The hardest place
is when you have to
1757
01:23:45,821 --> 01:23:48,421
just watch it all
come to fruition.
1758
01:23:48,423 --> 01:23:49,957
It's like when you're
kid finally gets
1759
01:23:49,959 --> 01:23:51,759
on the field and is
swinging the bat.
1760
01:23:51,761 --> 01:23:54,228
I mean, you've got to sit
there and be a good parent.
1761
01:23:56,698 --> 01:23:58,665
I'm sure Amy will be a
good parent out there.
1762
01:24:02,171 --> 01:24:04,771
- I wonder if Amy had
them go check something
1763
01:24:04,773 --> 01:24:06,373
because she's staring
up at something.
1764
01:24:06,375 --> 01:24:07,907
- Yeah.
1765
01:24:07,909 --> 01:24:09,243
- [Amy] That one.
1766
01:24:23,392 --> 01:24:25,125
- [Technician] Now
let's just start
1767
01:24:25,127 --> 01:24:26,793
getting everything in
position and we'll see...
1768
01:24:26,795 --> 01:24:28,195
- [Amy] Then we
should come down.
1769
01:24:29,731 --> 01:24:31,698
- [Technician] Going down.
1770
01:24:32,734 --> 01:24:36,236
(upbeat orchestral music)
1771
01:25:35,731 --> 01:25:37,797
(indistinct chatter)
1772
01:25:37,799 --> 01:25:40,100
- It's just magic, it's magic.
1773
01:25:46,007 --> 01:25:48,675
- [Amy] It'd be awfully,
awfully interesting
1774
01:25:48,677 --> 01:25:51,211
to look at another
place and say,
1775
01:25:51,213 --> 01:25:53,881
"Oh, there's signatures
of life there."
1776
01:25:55,417 --> 01:25:57,150
It may not be
conclusive evidence,
1777
01:25:57,152 --> 01:25:59,953
but it sure would get
people very, very excited.
1778
01:26:01,757 --> 01:26:03,290
- [Nathaniel] Do you think
there's life out there?
1779
01:26:03,292 --> 01:26:05,692
- Yeah, I think
there's life out there.
1780
01:26:05,694 --> 01:26:07,494
Can we find them?
1781
01:26:07,496 --> 01:26:08,095
I think we will.
1782
01:26:08,097 --> 01:26:09,028
In my lifetime?
1783
01:26:09,030 --> 01:26:09,796
God, I hope so.
1784
01:26:11,900 --> 01:26:14,468
Because, I want
to know. You know?
1785
01:26:20,909 --> 01:26:23,610
(ducks quacking)
1786
01:26:36,725 --> 01:26:37,991
- [Sara] Charles.
1787
01:26:37,993 --> 01:26:38,992
- [Charles] Oh, hi Sara.
1788
01:26:38,994 --> 01:26:40,594
- [Sara] How'd it go?
1789
01:26:40,596 --> 01:26:42,462
- Well, I've set up the
telescope and I'm just
1790
01:26:42,464 --> 01:26:44,063
waiting for it to get dark
enough to do an alignment and--
1791
01:26:44,065 --> 01:26:45,064
- [Sara] Looks great.
1792
01:26:45,066 --> 01:26:46,666
- [Charles] Yeah.
1793
01:26:46,668 --> 01:26:48,335
- [Sara] What's up tonight?
1794
01:26:48,337 --> 01:26:50,069
- [Charles] Well, as soon
as it gets a bit darker,
1795
01:26:50,071 --> 01:26:51,538
maybe we'll look
at some galaxies.
1796
01:26:51,540 --> 01:26:53,340
I don't think Jupiter
and any of the planets
1797
01:26:53,342 --> 01:26:54,541
are going to be up
till later tonight.
1798
01:26:54,543 --> 01:26:56,676
- [Sara] Okay.
1799
01:26:56,678 --> 01:26:57,544
You see any stars yet?
1800
01:26:57,546 --> 01:26:59,479
- Not yet, not yet.
1801
01:26:59,481 --> 01:27:02,015
But patiently waiting for at
least Polaris to poke out.
1802
01:27:02,017 --> 01:27:04,017
- [Sara] Right, right.
1803
01:27:04,019 --> 01:27:06,753
- But maybe we can
discover some exoplanets.
1804
01:27:06,755 --> 01:27:09,823
(laughing)
1805
01:27:09,825 --> 01:27:11,592
There's fish jumping out there.
1806
01:27:13,562 --> 01:27:16,063
(duck quacking)
1807
01:27:18,099 --> 01:27:19,766
- [Charles] There it is.
1808
01:27:19,768 --> 01:27:21,168
- [Sara] Wow, that's
really pretty.
1809
01:27:21,170 --> 01:27:22,235
- [Charles] The
Whirlpool Galaxy M51,
1810
01:27:22,237 --> 01:27:23,970
one of my summer favorites.
1811
01:27:23,972 --> 01:27:25,372
- [Sara] It's amazing that
1812
01:27:25,374 --> 01:27:26,573
we can see it with
this telescope.
1813
01:27:26,575 --> 01:27:28,175
- [Charles] Yeah.
1814
01:27:28,177 --> 01:27:30,377
- And just how vast, like
that's so huge, that scale.
1815
01:27:30,379 --> 01:27:32,245
- [Charles] Yeah, we
are tiny, aren't we?
1816
01:27:32,247 --> 01:27:34,113
- [Sara] Really tiny.
1817
01:27:34,115 --> 01:27:35,782
Maybe there's a planet around
a star there looking back...
1818
01:27:35,784 --> 01:27:37,384
- [Charles] At our
spiral galaxy...
1819
01:27:37,386 --> 01:27:39,853
- [Sara] Maybe there
are two people like us.
1820
01:27:39,855 --> 01:27:40,720
- [Charles] Yeah, maybe.
1821
01:27:40,722 --> 01:27:41,988
(chuckles)
1822
01:27:41,990 --> 01:27:43,790
It's wonderful to be able to
1823
01:27:43,792 --> 01:27:44,924
wonder about the
universe together.
1824
01:27:44,926 --> 01:27:45,826
- [Sara] It really is.
1825
01:27:49,931 --> 01:27:52,633
(soft guitar music)
1826
01:27:58,940 --> 01:28:02,008
¶ Fly me to the moon
1827
01:28:02,010 --> 01:28:06,847
¶ And let me play
among the stars ¶
1828
01:28:08,617 --> 01:28:12,486
¶ Let me see what spring is
like on Jupiter and Mars ¶
1829
01:28:16,157 --> 01:28:21,261
¶ In other words, hold my hand
1830
01:28:25,500 --> 01:28:30,437
¶ In other words,
darling, kiss me ¶
1831
01:28:34,109 --> 01:28:39,112
¶ Fill my heart with song
and let me sing forevermore ¶
1832
01:28:40,849 --> 01:28:43,382
(rocket rumbling)
1833
01:28:43,384 --> 01:28:48,255
¶ You are all I long for,
all I worship and adore ¶
1834
01:28:51,126 --> 01:28:55,962
¶ In other words,
please be true ¶
1835
01:28:59,735 --> 01:29:03,337
¶ In other words, I love you
1836
01:29:41,576 --> 01:29:46,580
¶ Fill my heart with song
and let me sing forevermore ¶
1837
01:29:50,185 --> 01:29:55,188
¶ You are all I long for,
all I worship and adore ¶
1838
01:29:57,726 --> 01:30:02,562
¶ In other words,
please be true ¶
1839
01:30:05,334 --> 01:30:10,337
¶ And in other
words, I love you ¶
1840
01:30:13,342 --> 01:30:17,344
¶ And in other
words, I love you ¶
1841
01:30:24,886 --> 01:30:27,254
(haunting music)
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