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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,568 --> 00:00:02,334 [music playing] 2 00:00:02,702 --> 00:00:04,536 NARRATOR: Of the many UFO-related events that 3 00:00:04,636 --> 00:00:07,071 continue to plague planet Earth, none 4 00:00:07,173 --> 00:00:10,076 is more perplexing to experts than the escalating reports 5 00:00:10,176 --> 00:00:13,679 of USOs unidentified submerged objects. 6 00:00:13,779 --> 00:00:15,647 [whoosh] 7 00:00:19,352 --> 00:00:22,021 BILL BIRNES: USO sightings continue all around the world 8 00:00:22,121 --> 00:00:23,155 to this very day. 9 00:00:23,256 --> 00:00:24,957 They continue to come out of the water, 10 00:00:25,057 --> 00:00:27,859 and they continue to be seen by witnesses around the world. 11 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,094 NARRATOR: Since our last USO report, 12 00:00:30,196 --> 00:00:32,899 extraordinary new facts, stories, and details 13 00:00:32,999 --> 00:00:38,270 have come to light about this most elusive class of UFO. 14 00:00:38,371 --> 00:00:39,905 CHARLES HOWARD: It was the summer of 2000. 15 00:00:40,006 --> 00:00:42,341 My ship was visiting Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, 16 00:00:42,442 --> 00:00:45,612 when I saw three strange, big white lights in the water. 17 00:00:48,148 --> 00:00:50,783 NARRATOR: Witness for the first time new evidence 18 00:00:50,884 --> 00:00:54,018 of USO-related anomalies on the surface of our oceans 19 00:00:54,119 --> 00:00:55,620 and waters-- 20 00:00:55,722 --> 00:00:59,758 CARL FEINDT: USOs can manifest crop circles on water. 21 00:00:59,859 --> 00:01:01,527 NARRATOR: --and find out why one of America's 22 00:01:01,628 --> 00:01:05,296 first nuclear armed aircraft carriers, the USS Franklin 23 00:01:05,397 --> 00:01:08,834 Delano Roosevelt, continued to be a magnet for reported UFO 24 00:01:08,935 --> 00:01:13,171 and USO events for over 30 years. 25 00:01:13,272 --> 00:01:16,975 CHET GRUSINSKI: I was on the USS Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1958. 26 00:01:17,076 --> 00:01:20,712 And I seen a UFO when we were out at sea. 27 00:01:20,813 --> 00:01:24,582 NARRATOR: From brand-new reports of deep sea UFOs to stories 28 00:01:24,683 --> 00:01:28,287 that go back over 100 years, many experts 29 00:01:28,388 --> 00:01:30,156 continue to wonder. 30 00:01:30,256 --> 00:01:35,260 Are we the first inhabitants of our planet, or are they? 31 00:01:35,361 --> 00:01:37,831 [theme music] 32 00:01:47,140 --> 00:01:51,076 In early 2006, after viewing the History Channel's broadcast 33 00:01:51,177 --> 00:01:55,648 of "Deep Sea UFOs," 36-year-old US Navy Chief Petty Officer 34 00:01:55,748 --> 00:01:57,683 Charles Howard was just one person 35 00:01:57,784 --> 00:02:00,753 to contact the network with stories and accounts 36 00:02:00,853 --> 00:02:05,024 of unusual, frightening, and terrifying unidentified objects 37 00:02:05,125 --> 00:02:07,126 in our waters. 38 00:02:07,227 --> 00:02:10,329 Petty Officer Howard, a 17-year veteran of the Navy, 39 00:02:10,430 --> 00:02:13,599 tells his story of a possible USO encounter 40 00:02:13,699 --> 00:02:15,768 for the first time. 41 00:02:15,868 --> 00:02:17,436 CHARLES HOWARD: The History Channel was broadcasting 42 00:02:17,537 --> 00:02:19,438 the show about UFOs and USOs. 43 00:02:19,538 --> 00:02:21,106 I never heard of USOs. 44 00:02:21,206 --> 00:02:22,307 I thought that was very interesting, 45 00:02:22,407 --> 00:02:24,242 because I had an experience. 46 00:02:24,343 --> 00:02:26,545 I never shared it with anybody, but I thought 47 00:02:26,645 --> 00:02:28,980 it was pretty interesting. 48 00:02:29,081 --> 00:02:32,484 NARRATOR: In the summer of 2000, Howard's ship, the USS Thorn, 49 00:02:32,585 --> 00:02:37,623 was docked off Guantanamo Bay, Cuba after routine maneuvers. 50 00:02:37,723 --> 00:02:38,691 CHARLES HOWARD: It was kind of late. 51 00:02:38,790 --> 00:02:41,227 10 o'clock, so I was coming back to the ship. 52 00:02:41,326 --> 00:02:42,627 I'm walking down the pier. 53 00:02:42,729 --> 00:02:44,362 I was pretty tired, so I wanted to get back before everybody. 54 00:02:44,463 --> 00:02:46,465 You know, so I could get back and get some sleep. 55 00:02:46,566 --> 00:02:48,266 And the pier was pretty long. 56 00:02:48,367 --> 00:02:50,668 I was about 30 paces ahead of everybody. 57 00:02:50,770 --> 00:02:52,872 I saw, like, this glowing white light 58 00:02:52,972 --> 00:02:54,140 out of the corner of my eye. 59 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,540 I was walking. 60 00:02:55,641 --> 00:02:58,710 I kind of look to the side, and it was glowing under the water. 61 00:02:58,811 --> 00:03:00,712 NARRATOR: The glowing USO initially appears 62 00:03:00,812 --> 00:03:02,914 about 30 yards from the pier. 63 00:03:03,015 --> 00:03:06,519 Howard estimates the object at almost 10 feet across. 64 00:03:06,618 --> 00:03:09,487 As it approaches, Howard comments he couldn't tell 65 00:03:09,588 --> 00:03:11,189 if the object was man-made. 66 00:03:11,290 --> 00:03:12,457 CHARLES HOWARD: At first, it kind of 67 00:03:12,558 --> 00:03:15,661 like popped up out of nowhere, like a soft white glow. 68 00:03:15,762 --> 00:03:17,796 As I'm looking at it, it gets brighter and brighter. 69 00:03:17,896 --> 00:03:21,500 And then that's when the other two lights popped up behind it. 70 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,103 Almost formed like a triangle. 71 00:03:24,204 --> 00:03:27,605 It was a light here, light here, and a light here. 72 00:03:27,706 --> 00:03:29,942 At first, I really wasn't afraid, because it was just 73 00:03:30,043 --> 00:03:31,843 one soft light. 74 00:03:31,944 --> 00:03:33,812 It just was kind of weird to me. 75 00:03:33,913 --> 00:03:36,248 But then when the other two lights popped up behind it 76 00:03:36,348 --> 00:03:38,450 and they started moving, that's when I got kind of afraid. 77 00:03:38,550 --> 00:03:39,350 I was like hey, guys. 78 00:03:39,451 --> 00:03:39,953 Come look at this. 79 00:03:40,052 --> 00:03:41,219 Look at this. 80 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,256 NARRATOR: The other seamen respond to Howard's calls, 81 00:03:43,355 --> 00:03:45,057 but arrive too late. 82 00:03:45,157 --> 00:03:49,695 The USO has disappeared under the water. 83 00:03:49,795 --> 00:03:53,665 He has never seen anything like it before or since, 84 00:03:53,765 --> 00:03:56,602 and hopes to never see another. 85 00:03:56,703 --> 00:03:58,937 CHARLES HOWARD: I've been out to sea almost 17 years now. 86 00:03:59,038 --> 00:04:00,673 I've never seen anything like this. 87 00:04:00,772 --> 00:04:02,875 It was-- it was weird. 88 00:04:06,778 --> 00:04:08,014 NARRATOR: Similar sightings continue 89 00:04:08,114 --> 00:04:10,883 to surface from the areas adjacent to Santa Catalina 90 00:04:10,984 --> 00:04:14,520 Channel off the coast of Los Angeles. 91 00:04:14,621 --> 00:04:16,521 BILL BIRNES: Tomorrow, off a dive ship, 92 00:04:16,622 --> 00:04:18,658 we're gonna go out with divers to find 93 00:04:18,757 --> 00:04:23,027 trace evidence of that 1992 USO sighting right here in Santa 94 00:04:23,129 --> 00:04:25,898 Monica Bay. 95 00:04:25,999 --> 00:04:30,336 NARRATOR: June 14, 1992, 10:24 PM. 96 00:04:30,435 --> 00:04:32,137 Multiple witnesses reported seeing 97 00:04:32,237 --> 00:04:36,408 over 200 bright, disc-shaped objects silently exiting 98 00:04:36,509 --> 00:04:38,576 the water and hovering for a moment 99 00:04:38,677 --> 00:04:41,846 before bursting into space. 100 00:04:41,947 --> 00:04:44,315 Reports of this incident were phoned into local police 101 00:04:44,416 --> 00:04:46,752 departments as far away as Malibu. 102 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,657 NARRATOR: On March 9, 2006, Patrick Uskert, Kevin Bruhn, 103 00:05:24,757 --> 00:05:27,158 and Julius Willis invited the History Channel 104 00:05:27,259 --> 00:05:30,896 along on a research expedition to seek evidence of USOs 105 00:05:30,997 --> 00:05:37,370 in the Santa Catalina Channel, where, coincidentally, at 9:37 106 00:05:37,470 --> 00:05:40,105 PM the night before, witnesses reported 107 00:05:40,206 --> 00:05:43,275 seeing several disc-shaped silver USO's diving 108 00:05:43,375 --> 00:05:45,077 into and out of the Channel. 109 00:05:47,612 --> 00:05:50,749 Uskert, Bruhn, and Willis were joined on this 11-hour quest 110 00:05:50,850 --> 00:05:55,854 by UFO researcher and veteran sailor, Captain William Birnes, 111 00:05:55,954 --> 00:05:58,591 and by Preston Dennett, who first reported 112 00:05:58,690 --> 00:06:01,626 on this large scale, 1992 USO event 113 00:06:01,728 --> 00:06:03,629 in these waters off of Los Angeles 114 00:06:03,730 --> 00:06:05,365 in our previous broadcast. 115 00:06:09,168 --> 00:06:11,136 BILL BIRNES: So we're all set today, right? 116 00:06:11,237 --> 00:06:12,338 You got the Geiger counter? 117 00:06:12,437 --> 00:06:13,738 KEVIN BRUHN: I've got all the scientific equipment 118 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,140 ready to go. 119 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:15,841 BILL BIRNES: You have all the vials and everything we need? 120 00:06:15,942 --> 00:06:16,809 Yep, the collection. 121 00:06:16,908 --> 00:06:17,776 BILL BIRNES: You've got the tanks? 122 00:06:17,877 --> 00:06:18,444 PATRICK USKERT: I've got the tanks. 123 00:06:18,543 --> 00:06:19,377 I've got the camera. 124 00:06:19,478 --> 00:06:19,978 You've got the underwater camera? 125 00:06:20,079 --> 00:06:20,478 Yeah. Housing. 126 00:06:20,579 --> 00:06:21,112 Infrared? 127 00:06:21,213 --> 00:06:22,047 Infrared we have. 128 00:06:22,148 --> 00:06:22,615 Yeah. 129 00:06:22,714 --> 00:06:23,214 We're all set. 130 00:06:23,315 --> 00:06:23,782 Great. 131 00:06:23,882 --> 00:06:25,149 OK, let's go. 132 00:06:25,250 --> 00:06:28,620 NARRATOR: Their plan is to dive in two areas of the Channel. 133 00:06:28,721 --> 00:06:31,322 Divers Uskert and Bruhn will collect samples. 134 00:06:31,423 --> 00:06:34,359 And Bruhn, a PhD and research scientist, 135 00:06:34,459 --> 00:06:37,962 will conduct preliminary testing on the ship and further testing 136 00:06:38,064 --> 00:06:39,531 later in his lab. 137 00:06:39,632 --> 00:06:40,632 [slam] 138 00:06:40,733 --> 00:06:43,268 Our mission, we go down, collect samples, 139 00:06:43,369 --> 00:06:48,040 and basically to look for any evidence of underwater UFOs. 140 00:06:48,141 --> 00:06:49,675 [music playing] 141 00:06:49,776 --> 00:06:52,177 NARRATOR: In this largely unexplored area called 142 00:06:52,278 --> 00:06:54,913 the Redondo Trench, detection of USOs 143 00:06:55,014 --> 00:06:57,749 has been hampered by its incredible depth. 144 00:06:57,850 --> 00:07:01,820 In some places, reaching almost one mile. 145 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:06,724 Sonar on most ships is incapable of tracking anything this deep. 146 00:07:06,826 --> 00:07:07,526 CAPTAIN: Good morning, folks. 147 00:07:07,627 --> 00:07:08,326 Welcome aboard Pacific Star. 148 00:07:08,427 --> 00:07:08,995 PATRICK USKERT: Morning. 149 00:07:09,095 --> 00:07:10,396 Good morning. 150 00:07:10,495 --> 00:07:12,664 CAPTAIN: I guess we're gonna go out to the Trench this morning? 151 00:07:12,764 --> 00:07:17,469 Trench drops off fast, probably a 60-degree angle. 152 00:07:17,569 --> 00:07:21,173 Drops down to-- well, my meter goes to 1,400 feet 153 00:07:21,274 --> 00:07:23,175 and I can't find the bottom. 154 00:07:23,276 --> 00:07:27,045 We don't want to go too deep, because we don't know what's 155 00:07:27,146 --> 00:07:27,545 there. 156 00:07:27,646 --> 00:07:29,081 [laughter] 157 00:07:30,016 --> 00:07:31,783 Jump, Joe. 158 00:07:31,884 --> 00:07:34,052 [music playing] 159 00:07:34,153 --> 00:07:36,021 NARRATOR: The ship leaves Redondo Beach, California, 160 00:07:36,122 --> 00:07:38,389 at 8:37 AM. 161 00:07:38,490 --> 00:07:42,827 It heads due west, into the murky waters of the Pacific. 162 00:07:42,928 --> 00:07:47,665 The team faces a strong breeze and heavier-than-normal chop. 163 00:07:47,766 --> 00:07:49,767 CAPTAIN: The only thing that could possibly be worse 164 00:07:49,869 --> 00:07:52,271 is if that wind were to pick up. 165 00:07:52,370 --> 00:07:54,706 Well, if we get these ground swells rolling through 166 00:07:54,807 --> 00:07:58,744 like this, they will stir up the bottom 70, 80 foot down. 167 00:07:58,845 --> 00:08:03,281 Got to bump into them down there in order to find anything. 168 00:08:03,382 --> 00:08:06,918 NARRATOR: At 9:22 AM, the team catches their first glimpse 169 00:08:07,019 --> 00:08:10,256 of something unusual. 170 00:08:10,355 --> 00:08:11,689 Look at that. 171 00:08:11,790 --> 00:08:13,024 Holy cow. 172 00:08:13,125 --> 00:08:14,625 NARRATOR: A strange anomaly is witnessed 173 00:08:14,726 --> 00:08:16,427 on the surface of the water. 174 00:08:16,528 --> 00:08:17,430 Guys, I'm serious. 175 00:08:17,529 --> 00:08:19,330 Look at that. 176 00:08:19,432 --> 00:08:23,001 NARRATOR: The round impression, approximately 15 feet across, 177 00:08:23,101 --> 00:08:26,337 vibrates constantly as it is seen to disappear 178 00:08:26,439 --> 00:08:27,874 as quickly as it came. 179 00:08:32,077 --> 00:08:33,611 PRESTON DENNETT: Sounds crazy, but there 180 00:08:33,712 --> 00:08:35,480 have been a lot of UFO crashes. 181 00:08:35,581 --> 00:08:38,551 40 or 50 at least, so it's entirely possible 182 00:08:38,650 --> 00:08:41,019 that there is some type of material down there. 183 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,724 There's plenty of places for USOs to hide. 184 00:08:45,825 --> 00:08:48,660 That's the Trench. 185 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,895 NARRATOR: The Captain orders the anchor down about two 186 00:08:50,996 --> 00:08:53,464 nautical miles downrange. 187 00:08:53,566 --> 00:08:55,100 BILL BIRNES: We're looking for a couple of things. 188 00:08:55,201 --> 00:08:57,769 Are there any patterns on the bottom of the water? 189 00:08:57,870 --> 00:09:00,971 Any trace evidence that remains from the soil? 190 00:09:01,072 --> 00:09:02,975 Is there any radioactivity down there? 191 00:09:03,075 --> 00:09:04,475 Are there any strange elements? 192 00:09:04,576 --> 00:09:05,977 [splash] 193 00:09:07,379 --> 00:09:10,115 People in this area saw this craft last night. 194 00:09:10,216 --> 00:09:13,619 So if that craft was here last night, if that craft left the, 195 00:09:13,719 --> 00:09:17,790 traces our guys on the bottom are collecting those traces now 196 00:09:17,889 --> 00:09:19,191 and bringing them up to the surface, 197 00:09:19,292 --> 00:09:21,226 and we're going to see these traces be tested. 198 00:09:29,601 --> 00:09:30,735 What was the visibility like down there? 199 00:09:30,836 --> 00:09:31,370 Very low. 200 00:09:31,470 --> 00:09:32,204 Like 5 to 10 feet. 201 00:09:32,304 --> 00:09:32,771 BILL BIRNES: Yeah. 202 00:09:32,871 --> 00:09:33,271 5 to 10 feet? 203 00:09:33,371 --> 00:09:34,272 Oh, man. 204 00:09:34,373 --> 00:09:36,175 Too rough to see anything. 205 00:09:36,274 --> 00:09:38,209 Couldn't see much when we down. 206 00:09:38,311 --> 00:09:40,245 Hopefully, Pat's getting get some footage. 207 00:09:40,346 --> 00:09:43,215 Maybe some samples. 208 00:09:43,316 --> 00:09:45,250 NARRATOR: While Uskert reported that he sensed something 209 00:09:45,350 --> 00:09:47,818 peculiar in the water, the conditions 210 00:09:47,919 --> 00:09:49,620 prevented him from seeing it. 211 00:09:49,721 --> 00:09:53,024 He did, however, collect samples for testing. 212 00:09:53,125 --> 00:09:55,192 PATRICK USKERT: Couldn't see a thing. 213 00:09:55,293 --> 00:10:00,231 Just my flashlight beam going into blackness. 214 00:10:00,332 --> 00:10:02,802 If there is someone who wanted a place to hide, 215 00:10:02,902 --> 00:10:05,638 that'd be a pretty nice place to hide. 216 00:10:05,738 --> 00:10:06,939 Nice and dark. 217 00:10:07,038 --> 00:10:08,005 Nice, indeed. 218 00:10:08,106 --> 00:10:10,408 I didn't feel like I belonged there. 219 00:10:10,509 --> 00:10:13,012 I didn't feel like I was supposed to be there. 220 00:10:13,111 --> 00:10:15,413 NARRATOR: Due to poor visibility at this location, 221 00:10:15,514 --> 00:10:19,518 the team moves four miles down range, even further 222 00:10:19,619 --> 00:10:20,285 into the Channel. 223 00:10:20,385 --> 00:10:22,788 [music playing] 224 00:10:24,724 --> 00:10:27,326 BILL BIRNES: We're going to head out to another spot where, 225 00:10:27,426 --> 00:10:30,362 again, if you were trying to camouflage yourself, 226 00:10:30,462 --> 00:10:33,164 you're probably sitting right here in the best place 227 00:10:33,264 --> 00:10:36,467 to be camouflaged. 228 00:10:36,568 --> 00:10:39,237 NARRATOR: With underwater visibility of less than 15 feet 229 00:10:39,337 --> 00:10:41,606 at the first location, the divers 230 00:10:41,706 --> 00:10:44,275 prep a more sensitive camera to record evidence 231 00:10:44,376 --> 00:10:47,078 in this deeper area. 232 00:10:47,178 --> 00:10:47,911 MAN: Use this camera. 233 00:10:48,014 --> 00:10:49,148 I already got it in the housing. 234 00:10:49,248 --> 00:10:50,182 PATRICK USKERT: OK. 235 00:10:50,282 --> 00:10:51,483 MAN: I've set it up so it's especially 236 00:10:51,583 --> 00:10:52,950 sensitive to low light. 237 00:10:53,052 --> 00:10:54,586 If there's anything down there, you're gonna see it. 238 00:10:54,687 --> 00:10:57,123 [music playing] 239 00:10:58,124 --> 00:11:00,091 [splash] 240 00:11:03,562 --> 00:11:05,531 [splash] 241 00:11:13,405 --> 00:11:14,673 BILL BIRNES: Now, what you've seen 242 00:11:14,774 --> 00:11:18,710 is, they're taking samples from the bottom of the ocean bed, 243 00:11:18,811 --> 00:11:22,014 and they're gonna be testing these for radioactive traces 244 00:11:22,114 --> 00:11:24,316 and chemical traces. 245 00:11:24,417 --> 00:11:26,884 USO's leave traces. 246 00:11:26,985 --> 00:11:28,452 Maybe they're magnetic. 247 00:11:28,553 --> 00:11:30,389 Maybe they're highly electrical charged. 248 00:11:30,489 --> 00:11:32,858 They're looking to test for electrical charges, 249 00:11:32,957 --> 00:11:36,694 for magnetism, and for radioactivity. 250 00:11:36,796 --> 00:11:38,629 NARRATOR: The clearer conditions at this location 251 00:11:38,730 --> 00:11:40,899 help the divers collect samples. 252 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,135 And this time, they find something unusual. 253 00:11:44,235 --> 00:11:46,172 PATRICK USKERT: I'm pretty satisfied with what 254 00:11:46,272 --> 00:11:46,972 we collected. 255 00:11:51,243 --> 00:11:53,145 KEVIN BRUHN: We're gonna check it with the Geiger counter, 256 00:11:53,245 --> 00:11:54,712 see if they're reading hot. 257 00:11:54,813 --> 00:11:55,546 Great. 258 00:11:55,648 --> 00:11:56,514 So just open the lid on these. 259 00:12:00,985 --> 00:12:02,620 Negative on this one. 260 00:12:02,721 --> 00:12:03,654 MAN: Whoa. 261 00:12:03,755 --> 00:12:06,391 You've got a lot of soil sample here. 262 00:12:06,491 --> 00:12:07,793 Wow. 263 00:12:07,893 --> 00:12:08,293 KEVIN BRUHN: OK. 264 00:12:08,394 --> 00:12:10,328 [beeps] 265 00:12:11,129 --> 00:12:11,697 All right. 266 00:12:11,797 --> 00:12:12,364 We've got something. 267 00:12:12,465 --> 00:12:15,668 We've got something. 268 00:12:15,768 --> 00:12:17,836 NARRATOR: Due to the elevated Geiger counter reading, 269 00:12:17,937 --> 00:12:20,605 the team decides further testing is needed. 270 00:12:20,706 --> 00:12:21,572 KEVIN BRUHN: All right. 271 00:12:21,673 --> 00:12:22,707 The rest, we can do back at the lab. 272 00:12:22,807 --> 00:12:23,576 MAN: Awesome. 273 00:12:26,177 --> 00:12:30,914 BILL BIRNES: So it's really no mystery why a USO would choose 274 00:12:31,015 --> 00:12:33,317 this particular area to hide in. 275 00:12:33,418 --> 00:12:35,452 They just can't be seen. 276 00:12:35,553 --> 00:12:37,454 PATRICK USKERT: We can't really know what the results will 277 00:12:37,556 --> 00:12:39,825 be until we analyze everything and put it all together. 278 00:12:39,924 --> 00:12:41,392 But it's all part of the process. 279 00:12:41,494 --> 00:12:43,762 What we try to do is test our hypotheses 280 00:12:43,863 --> 00:12:46,097 by setting up very controlled experiments, 281 00:12:46,197 --> 00:12:47,466 trying to eliminate variables. 282 00:12:47,566 --> 00:12:49,301 And out here, it's very difficult 283 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,303 to eliminate all these variables that we deal with. 284 00:12:52,403 --> 00:12:54,673 So we're kind of on the level of just observing. 285 00:12:54,774 --> 00:12:58,210 And if anything comes up strange or worthy 286 00:12:58,309 --> 00:13:00,912 of continuing investigation, then we'll certainly 287 00:13:01,013 --> 00:13:02,547 be back out here, I think. 288 00:13:02,648 --> 00:13:03,849 [slam] 289 00:13:03,948 --> 00:13:04,515 PATRICK USKERT: Kevin will probably agree with me here, 290 00:13:04,616 --> 00:13:05,717 right? 291 00:13:05,817 --> 00:13:07,085 There's a good probability that they're down there. 292 00:13:07,186 --> 00:13:08,286 KEVIN BRUHN: If you're gonna find anything, 293 00:13:08,386 --> 00:13:09,687 you've gotta look. 294 00:13:09,788 --> 00:13:13,192 NARRATOR: Further testing on the USO sample proved inconclusive. 295 00:13:13,292 --> 00:13:15,326 However, due to the initial positive result 296 00:13:15,427 --> 00:13:19,230 on sample number two, a more comprehensive USO dive 297 00:13:19,331 --> 00:13:22,100 is planned for the fall of 2006. 298 00:13:22,201 --> 00:13:23,101 We've gotta go back. 299 00:13:23,735 --> 00:13:26,071 [music playing] 300 00:13:32,211 --> 00:13:33,245 [music playing] 301 00:13:33,511 --> 00:13:36,114 Of the US Navy's many great technical achievements after 302 00:13:36,215 --> 00:13:40,384 World War II, few surpassed the dramatic might, power, 303 00:13:40,485 --> 00:13:43,355 and capabilities of its Midway class carrier, 304 00:13:43,455 --> 00:13:48,826 the USS Franklin D. Roosevelt. Commissioned on October 27, 305 00:13:48,927 --> 00:13:53,498 1945 from the New York Naval shipyards, the 1,000-foot long, 306 00:13:53,599 --> 00:13:58,304 64,000-ton FDR was one of the first ships in the Navy's fleet 307 00:13:58,403 --> 00:14:00,840 to carry nuclear weapons full time. 308 00:14:03,676 --> 00:14:06,076 HARRY JORDAN: The Franklin D. Roosevelt was a very capable 309 00:14:06,177 --> 00:14:08,513 of ship in every stretch of the imagination. 310 00:14:08,614 --> 00:14:12,117 She was an experimental floating active laboratory 311 00:14:12,217 --> 00:14:14,385 for the entire Navy department. 312 00:14:14,485 --> 00:14:16,086 NARRATOR: According to many of the men who served 313 00:14:16,187 --> 00:14:19,624 aboard the FDR, the ship's sophisticated capabilities 314 00:14:19,725 --> 00:14:22,961 caused the carrier to be at the center of one of the great USO 315 00:14:23,062 --> 00:14:26,331 mysteries of the 20th century. 316 00:14:26,432 --> 00:14:29,500 HARRY JORDAN: I have no doubt about the existence of UFOs 317 00:14:29,601 --> 00:14:32,569 and their interaction with the Franklin D. Roosevelt. 318 00:14:32,671 --> 00:14:34,605 And there have been many other sailors out there who've 319 00:14:34,706 --> 00:14:36,841 had the same experiences I have had. 320 00:14:36,942 --> 00:14:39,977 CHET GRUSINSKI: There's probably a good connection with the USS 321 00:14:40,078 --> 00:14:43,013 FDR and the nuclear weapons and the UFO sightings. 322 00:14:43,115 --> 00:14:44,850 It was a magnet for UFOs. 323 00:14:44,950 --> 00:14:48,420 NARRATOR: Chet Grusinski served aboard the FDR from July 1958 324 00:14:48,519 --> 00:14:54,425 until December 1960 as a fireman and metal works engineer. 325 00:14:54,525 --> 00:14:56,761 He says his harrowing close-range encounter 326 00:14:56,861 --> 00:15:01,000 with a large USO-like object in September 1958 327 00:15:01,100 --> 00:15:05,838 off Guantanamo Bay, Cuba has distressed him ever since. 328 00:15:05,937 --> 00:15:09,475 He tells his story on camera for the first time. 329 00:15:09,575 --> 00:15:10,709 CHET GRUSINSKI: We're down below decks. 330 00:15:10,808 --> 00:15:15,047 It's evening, between 8 and 9 o'clock. 331 00:15:15,147 --> 00:15:16,414 It was dark outside. 332 00:15:16,514 --> 00:15:19,016 A bunch of men come running up the ladder from the engine. 333 00:15:19,118 --> 00:15:20,886 My buddy Vince said, "Hey, Red. 334 00:15:20,985 --> 00:15:22,654 Why don't you go up there and see what's going on?" 335 00:15:22,754 --> 00:15:23,889 So I follow those men all the way 336 00:15:23,989 --> 00:15:25,423 up the ladder, up to the hangar deck, all the way up 337 00:15:25,524 --> 00:15:26,658 to the flight deck. 338 00:15:26,759 --> 00:15:29,193 NARRATOR: Grusinski witnessed a cigar-shaped UFO 339 00:15:29,294 --> 00:15:33,197 traveling at an incredible speed toward the FDR. 340 00:15:33,298 --> 00:15:36,334 He also comments that the object made no sound, 341 00:15:36,434 --> 00:15:40,371 and maneuvered unlike any man-made aircraft. 342 00:15:40,471 --> 00:15:42,473 We had no air operation going on the flight deck. 343 00:15:42,573 --> 00:15:43,574 It was quiet up there. 344 00:15:43,676 --> 00:15:45,544 And this thing just came right at us. 345 00:15:45,644 --> 00:15:47,980 And I could see what the light was when it came at our ship. 346 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:52,184 It was a row of windows with figures inside. 347 00:15:52,283 --> 00:15:55,519 And they got close enough, I could feel the heat on my face. 348 00:15:55,620 --> 00:15:58,590 And those figures were looking at us through those windows. 349 00:15:58,691 --> 00:16:01,026 And the impression I got, that those figures were looking 350 00:16:01,125 --> 00:16:03,595 at us were not human beings. 351 00:16:03,696 --> 00:16:07,264 And then this thing turned like a bright red-orange color, 352 00:16:07,365 --> 00:16:08,533 and I could see the shape of it. 353 00:16:08,634 --> 00:16:10,668 It was a cigar shape when it turned colors, and then 354 00:16:10,769 --> 00:16:14,004 just took right off like that. 355 00:16:14,105 --> 00:16:15,673 NARRATOR: Grusinski further reports 356 00:16:15,774 --> 00:16:19,043 that this bright USO-like craft rose from the water 357 00:16:19,144 --> 00:16:23,514 and remained relatively silent over this 45-second event 358 00:16:23,615 --> 00:16:26,084 before flying away. 359 00:16:26,184 --> 00:16:28,252 Approximately 25 of his shipmates 360 00:16:28,354 --> 00:16:30,655 reportedly witnessed this event as well. 361 00:16:30,755 --> 00:16:35,560 Most, he says, were quickly transferred off the FDR. 362 00:16:35,660 --> 00:16:39,130 Even more curious, he alleges that within hours, the ship's 363 00:16:39,230 --> 00:16:40,999 logbook was altered. 364 00:16:41,100 --> 00:16:43,134 CHET GRUSINSKI: When I got the deck log, a lot of things 365 00:16:43,235 --> 00:16:45,870 are blackened out on the logbooks. 366 00:16:45,971 --> 00:16:47,505 There's nothing in there. 367 00:16:47,605 --> 00:16:49,006 And the witnesses was trashing off the ship, 368 00:16:49,107 --> 00:16:50,141 and they probably-- 369 00:16:50,241 --> 00:16:51,909 I imagine they must have had to sign some papers 370 00:16:52,010 --> 00:16:53,245 and say something about it. 371 00:16:53,345 --> 00:16:55,146 But I never had to sign anything like that, maybe because I 372 00:16:55,246 --> 00:16:57,180 didn't say that much about it, you know? 373 00:16:57,282 --> 00:16:59,850 NARRATOR: After almost 50 years, his search 374 00:16:59,951 --> 00:17:03,388 for answers about what really happened that night continues. 375 00:17:03,489 --> 00:17:05,190 CHET GRUSINSKI: I'm still trying to find these men on the flight 376 00:17:05,289 --> 00:17:06,057 deck. 377 00:17:06,157 --> 00:17:07,024 I didn't have to sign the papers. 378 00:17:07,125 --> 00:17:08,192 I wasn't transferred off the ship. 379 00:17:08,292 --> 00:17:09,193 I've got a lot of whys. 380 00:17:09,294 --> 00:17:09,828 What happened? 381 00:17:09,928 --> 00:17:10,895 Why? 382 00:17:10,996 --> 00:17:12,330 That's what it is. 383 00:17:12,431 --> 00:17:14,032 That's why I've been spending all these years of research 384 00:17:14,133 --> 00:17:15,234 on there. 385 00:17:15,334 --> 00:17:17,568 NARRATOR: But Grusinski is not alone in his belief 386 00:17:17,669 --> 00:17:21,806 that he witnessed a UFO while serving aboard the FDR. 387 00:17:21,906 --> 00:17:24,375 A second FDR veteran, Harry Jordan, 388 00:17:24,476 --> 00:17:29,047 served aboard the FDR from 1962 until 1965 389 00:17:29,147 --> 00:17:31,215 as seaman first class. 390 00:17:31,316 --> 00:17:33,384 His rating as a radar operator put him 391 00:17:33,484 --> 00:17:36,454 in charge of one of the world's most advanced and sensitive 392 00:17:36,555 --> 00:17:38,257 radar systems. 393 00:17:38,356 --> 00:17:41,158 HARRY JORDAN: She also had the capability of jamming rockets, 394 00:17:41,259 --> 00:17:42,927 intercontinental ballistic missiles, 395 00:17:43,028 --> 00:17:45,229 and even break through some of the countermeasures 396 00:17:45,329 --> 00:17:49,100 being put upon us by Soviet Bloc countries. 397 00:17:49,201 --> 00:17:52,002 NARRATOR: While on duty in 1962, Jordan 398 00:17:52,104 --> 00:17:54,972 says he became part of another significant USO event 399 00:17:55,074 --> 00:17:59,711 aboard the ship that has remained secret until now. 400 00:17:59,811 --> 00:18:01,045 HARRY JORDAN: The Roosevelt definitely 401 00:18:01,145 --> 00:18:04,982 attracted UFOs because of all of the technical equipment 402 00:18:05,084 --> 00:18:07,052 and all of the armaments that she had. 403 00:18:07,152 --> 00:18:09,554 And also, nuclear weapons. 404 00:18:09,654 --> 00:18:12,124 NARRATOR: Jordan agreed to tell his mysterious and alarming 405 00:18:12,223 --> 00:18:16,394 story of possible USO contact for the first time. 406 00:18:16,494 --> 00:18:19,263 HARRY JORDAN: I do remember the incident and the details of it, 407 00:18:19,364 --> 00:18:22,700 because it just stays with you when you've gone through this. 408 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,737 NARRATOR: October 2, 1962, off the coast of Sardinia, 409 00:18:26,838 --> 00:18:29,040 approximately 2:00 AM. 410 00:18:29,141 --> 00:18:31,877 Jordan stands watch over his radar monitor. 411 00:18:31,977 --> 00:18:35,846 All is normal on this unusually warm fall night. 412 00:18:35,948 --> 00:18:39,551 Suddenly and without warning, he says, a contact abruptly 413 00:18:39,651 --> 00:18:40,986 appears on his screen. 414 00:18:41,086 --> 00:18:45,557 An object 600 miles downrange at an altitude almost impossible 415 00:18:45,656 --> 00:18:49,560 for conventional aircraft to reach at the time, 80,000 feet. 416 00:18:49,661 --> 00:18:52,096 HARRY JORDAN: The first blip came on at the beginning 417 00:18:52,196 --> 00:18:55,399 of about two and a half hours into the watch. 418 00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:58,537 It was 600 miles from the ship at 80,000 feet. 419 00:18:58,636 --> 00:19:03,107 Then it came into 300 miles at about 35,000 feet. 420 00:19:03,208 --> 00:19:07,411 And then it came in to about 10 miles at 10,000 to 15,000 feet 421 00:19:07,512 --> 00:19:09,514 from the ship off our port side. 422 00:19:09,615 --> 00:19:11,884 I reported it to the watch commander at the time, 423 00:19:11,983 --> 00:19:14,018 and he came over and went through the same process. 424 00:19:14,118 --> 00:19:17,054 And confirmed it, then reported it to the officer of the deck 425 00:19:17,155 --> 00:19:18,155 on the bridge. 426 00:19:18,257 --> 00:19:20,392 Then the officer of the deck on the bridge 427 00:19:20,491 --> 00:19:25,296 woke up the captain, after this contact started to move. 428 00:19:25,396 --> 00:19:28,265 NARRATOR: An object on Jordan's screen begins moving at a speed 429 00:19:28,366 --> 00:19:30,234 and on a course that, he believes, 430 00:19:30,335 --> 00:19:33,337 would have crushed any man-made aircraft. 431 00:19:33,438 --> 00:19:36,074 HARRY JORDAN: This thing was covering 10 miles in just a few 432 00:19:36,174 --> 00:19:38,942 seconds, and it was traveling about 4,000 miles an hour. 433 00:19:39,044 --> 00:19:41,313 And it was making right-angled turns. 434 00:19:41,413 --> 00:19:43,681 And it was almost like a Z pattern, 435 00:19:43,781 --> 00:19:46,684 if you took about four Z's and lined it across your scope. 436 00:19:46,785 --> 00:19:49,521 So I could tell that she was going pretty fast. 437 00:19:49,621 --> 00:19:51,256 And then-- so when she stops, they 438 00:19:51,355 --> 00:19:53,490 didn't have any heat signature. 439 00:19:53,592 --> 00:19:56,395 OK, this is highly unusual. 440 00:19:56,494 --> 00:19:58,162 NARRATOR: After Jordan makes his report, 441 00:19:58,262 --> 00:20:01,632 he says the FDR's captain orders the launch of a pair of Phantom 442 00:20:01,732 --> 00:20:05,403 II jets to analyze the situation. 443 00:20:05,503 --> 00:20:06,737 HARRY JORDAN: They went to afterburners 444 00:20:06,837 --> 00:20:09,173 and then launched one right after the other. 445 00:20:09,273 --> 00:20:10,974 They left the Rosie and headed up 446 00:20:11,076 --> 00:20:13,111 on a course of about 0, 1, 2. 447 00:20:13,211 --> 00:20:16,080 So then I thought immediately that there might be something 448 00:20:16,181 --> 00:20:19,450 new going on here, because that wasn't following protocol 449 00:20:19,550 --> 00:20:23,520 as far as normal ship operations that I was used to. 450 00:20:23,622 --> 00:20:26,591 NARRATOR: The Phantom jets, now about 20 miles down range, 451 00:20:26,692 --> 00:20:29,426 still seek contact with the object. 452 00:20:29,528 --> 00:20:31,929 Jordan reports that the blip on his radar screen 453 00:20:32,029 --> 00:20:35,133 continues to dive close to the USS FDR 454 00:20:35,233 --> 00:20:39,003 before it disappears in a literal flash. 455 00:20:39,104 --> 00:20:40,838 HARRY JORDAN: It's being recorded on the view board 456 00:20:40,939 --> 00:20:43,774 up on the right-hand side and CIC. 457 00:20:43,875 --> 00:20:48,479 And then the contact winked out. 458 00:20:48,579 --> 00:20:51,015 About 20, 30 seconds after the-- 459 00:20:51,115 --> 00:20:54,184 and I could hear one of the pilots say, "What the--" 460 00:20:54,286 --> 00:20:56,420 and that's all I heard. 461 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,656 NARRATOR: Moments later, he says, as quickly 462 00:20:58,757 --> 00:21:01,592 as it disappeared, the target returns. 463 00:21:01,692 --> 00:21:04,496 But now, it's bigger and closer. 464 00:21:04,596 --> 00:21:05,896 HARRY JORDAN: The manitu just landed 465 00:21:05,998 --> 00:21:08,633 and then it winked back on again off the port side of the ship. 466 00:21:08,733 --> 00:21:11,067 And someone yelled out in CIC, you 467 00:21:11,169 --> 00:21:12,670 know, "What the hell is that?" 468 00:21:12,770 --> 00:21:17,474 And I bet you had 15 people out there with binoculars looking. 469 00:21:17,576 --> 00:21:19,043 NARRATOR: 2:32 AM. 470 00:21:19,144 --> 00:21:22,713 In full view of the FDR's crew, the USO reportedly 471 00:21:22,814 --> 00:21:23,915 hovers for a moment. 472 00:21:24,016 --> 00:21:27,152 Several feet from the ship, before disappearing. 473 00:21:29,954 --> 00:21:32,323 HARRY JORDAN: I saw the Z pattern and it stopped. 474 00:21:32,423 --> 00:21:33,258 It winked out. 475 00:21:33,357 --> 00:21:35,092 And then it was gone. 476 00:21:35,192 --> 00:21:38,562 I know what the fingerprints are of the electronics 477 00:21:38,663 --> 00:21:42,933 on Soviet aircraft, Korean aircraft, Chinese MiGs, 478 00:21:43,035 --> 00:21:44,636 you name it. 479 00:21:44,736 --> 00:21:46,370 If it'd been a meteor, it would have burned up 480 00:21:46,471 --> 00:21:47,672 in the atmosphere. 481 00:21:47,772 --> 00:21:50,442 And I have seen meteors streak across the scope, 482 00:21:50,541 --> 00:21:52,976 but it only happens in about two or three seconds. 483 00:21:53,077 --> 00:21:55,113 I mean, it's gone. 484 00:21:55,212 --> 00:21:56,614 NARRATOR: 2:36 AM. 485 00:21:56,714 --> 00:22:00,818 Jordan records the event in his logbook as a UFO incident. 486 00:22:00,919 --> 00:22:05,189 Seconds later, he says his commanding officer bursts in. 487 00:22:05,289 --> 00:22:07,259 HARRY JORDAN: "Jordan, what did you put in your log?" 488 00:22:07,358 --> 00:22:12,028 And I had UFO in there and I had the contact number, the time. 489 00:22:12,130 --> 00:22:13,931 I held it up in front of the commander 490 00:22:14,031 --> 00:22:17,000 and he says, "You can take that out." 491 00:22:17,102 --> 00:22:21,038 My commander acknowledged to me in not so many terms 492 00:22:21,138 --> 00:22:23,073 that yeah, Jordan, that's what it was. 493 00:22:23,174 --> 00:22:27,177 But no, Jordan, nobody else is to know. 494 00:22:27,278 --> 00:22:29,579 Period. 495 00:22:29,681 --> 00:22:32,150 I had too much respect for him and the Navy to say anything 496 00:22:32,250 --> 00:22:34,719 about it for over 20 years. 497 00:22:34,819 --> 00:22:37,520 This was an historical moment for the United States Navy, 498 00:22:37,622 --> 00:22:42,394 and it was left out of the logs. 499 00:22:42,493 --> 00:22:44,663 NARRATOR: As astonishing as these mysterious firsthand 500 00:22:44,762 --> 00:22:47,564 encounters aboard the FDR might be, 501 00:22:47,665 --> 00:22:50,434 they are far from the only ones. 502 00:22:50,535 --> 00:22:53,705 During her unusually brief 32-year commission, 503 00:22:53,805 --> 00:22:58,209 the FDR will host at least a half dozen similar events. 504 00:22:58,309 --> 00:23:02,913 BILL BIRNES: The FDR seemed to have been attractive to USOs. 505 00:23:03,013 --> 00:23:04,382 She certainly saw a lot of them. 506 00:23:07,986 --> 00:23:08,786 [music playing] 507 00:23:09,086 --> 00:23:10,188 STEVEN GREER: And I've interviewed three people 508 00:23:10,521 --> 00:23:13,958 separately who have been on the FDR, where large UFOs have been 509 00:23:14,058 --> 00:23:18,695 seen over the ship, observing it, making its presence known. 510 00:23:18,797 --> 00:23:20,898 And at times, interfering with what 511 00:23:20,999 --> 00:23:23,834 appears to be some of the electronics on the ship. 512 00:23:23,934 --> 00:23:25,202 CARL FEINDT: Franklin Delano Roosevelt 513 00:23:25,303 --> 00:23:29,340 was the first aircraft carrier to carry nuclear weapons. 514 00:23:29,441 --> 00:23:33,444 And UFOs seem to be drawn to anything that's 515 00:23:33,545 --> 00:23:35,813 nuclear-related. 516 00:23:35,913 --> 00:23:40,451 The first instance of this occurring was in the North Sea 517 00:23:40,551 --> 00:23:44,188 off England on NATO operations. 518 00:23:44,288 --> 00:23:49,094 NARRATOR: September 1952, NATO initiates Operation Mainbrace, 519 00:23:49,193 --> 00:23:51,695 the first cooperative multilateral maneuvers 520 00:23:51,797 --> 00:23:53,096 since the war. 521 00:23:53,198 --> 00:23:56,301 BILL BIRNES: The FDR was part of a NATO fleet exercise 522 00:23:56,401 --> 00:23:59,738 off Denmark called Operation Mainbrace. 523 00:23:59,837 --> 00:24:04,576 The FDR and the RA4 and British aircraft carriers 524 00:24:04,675 --> 00:24:07,878 were witnesses to one of the most incredible 525 00:24:07,979 --> 00:24:11,149 multiple USO sightings in history. 526 00:24:11,249 --> 00:24:13,518 The Ministry of Defense in the UK 527 00:24:13,617 --> 00:24:17,489 actually wrote it up as a USO sighting. 528 00:24:17,588 --> 00:24:21,525 NARRATOR: The exercise involves 200 ships, 1,000 planes, 529 00:24:21,625 --> 00:24:24,461 and over 80,000 men from its member nations 530 00:24:24,563 --> 00:24:26,797 in the waters near Denmark. 531 00:24:26,897 --> 00:24:30,401 As one of the largest and most advanced ships of the time, 532 00:24:30,501 --> 00:24:33,037 the USS FDR leads the way. 533 00:24:33,137 --> 00:24:34,771 BILL BIRNES: She was part of a task force 534 00:24:34,873 --> 00:24:38,143 that was sealing off the Russian submarine 535 00:24:38,242 --> 00:24:41,645 access through the North Sea into the Atlantic. 536 00:24:41,746 --> 00:24:46,751 Extremely important, because what if there had been a USO 537 00:24:46,852 --> 00:24:50,721 base underneath the North Sea, in that area north of Europe? 538 00:24:50,821 --> 00:24:52,689 We were surveilling them. 539 00:24:52,790 --> 00:24:55,358 They were surveilling us. 540 00:24:55,460 --> 00:24:57,995 NARRATOR: September 13, 1952. 541 00:24:58,096 --> 00:25:01,365 The Danish destroyer Willemoes is in the Baltic Sea, north 542 00:25:01,465 --> 00:25:02,833 of Bornholm Island. 543 00:25:02,933 --> 00:25:05,903 Lieutenant Commander Schmidt Jensen and several crew members 544 00:25:06,003 --> 00:25:09,940 reportedly see a luminous, triangular-shaped object moving 545 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,976 at high speeds above the water, in close proximity 546 00:25:13,077 --> 00:25:14,112 to the main fleet. 547 00:25:14,211 --> 00:25:16,480 The bluish object travels westward, 548 00:25:16,580 --> 00:25:20,484 then suddenly turns southeast, directly toward the FDR. 549 00:25:23,654 --> 00:25:26,322 Over the next week, there are several more sightings 550 00:25:26,423 --> 00:25:29,426 stretching from Denmark back to the Air Operations Command 551 00:25:29,528 --> 00:25:32,829 bases in Scotland. 552 00:25:32,931 --> 00:25:37,035 September 20, 1952, 7:30 PM. 553 00:25:37,134 --> 00:25:39,269 Three Danish offices reportedly observe 554 00:25:39,371 --> 00:25:42,173 a shiny disc-shaped object rise from the water 555 00:25:42,273 --> 00:25:43,306 and pass over them. 556 00:25:43,407 --> 00:25:44,442 [splash] 557 00:25:44,542 --> 00:25:47,778 Again, headed toward the NATO fleet and the FDR. 558 00:25:47,878 --> 00:25:51,882 The fast-moving metallic UFO heads east, and disappears 559 00:25:51,982 --> 00:25:54,952 into the cloud layer. 560 00:25:55,053 --> 00:25:57,555 September 21, 1952. 561 00:25:57,655 --> 00:26:01,491 Less than 24 hours later, six British pilots above the North 562 00:26:01,593 --> 00:26:05,563 Sea spot a shiny, spherical object rising from the water 563 00:26:05,663 --> 00:26:08,398 and stealthily approach the fleet's location. 564 00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:11,635 They reportedly give chase, but the swift-moving object 565 00:26:11,736 --> 00:26:12,671 evades their pursuit. 566 00:26:15,539 --> 00:26:18,442 FDR veteran Jordan says that he spoke to a witness 567 00:26:18,542 --> 00:26:20,711 over 40 years ago. 568 00:26:20,811 --> 00:26:23,880 HARRY JORDAN: They had a sonar contact from three or four 569 00:26:23,981 --> 00:26:24,949 destroyers. 570 00:26:25,049 --> 00:26:26,416 And they couldn't figure out what the hell 571 00:26:26,518 --> 00:26:29,120 it was, because it was moving with them. 572 00:26:29,220 --> 00:26:32,722 And the damn thing was like a quarter mile wide, 573 00:26:32,824 --> 00:26:35,993 a quarter mile wide, and it came up out of the water. 574 00:26:36,094 --> 00:26:38,596 And when it did, it dinged one of the ships. 575 00:26:38,696 --> 00:26:41,464 And that was later reported as a collision between two 576 00:26:41,566 --> 00:26:42,500 destroyers. 577 00:26:42,601 --> 00:26:43,635 And he says, that's not what happened. 578 00:26:43,734 --> 00:26:45,402 Because he went up and he said, this damn thing 579 00:26:45,502 --> 00:26:49,206 came up out of the water and flew up. 580 00:26:49,307 --> 00:26:51,608 NARRATOR: According to reports, all of these sightings 581 00:26:51,710 --> 00:26:54,345 share a similar eerie trait. 582 00:26:54,445 --> 00:26:57,581 The witnesses uniformly feel that these USO objects, 583 00:26:57,682 --> 00:27:00,985 whatever they might be, are actually observing the Naval 584 00:27:01,086 --> 00:27:04,455 exercises at close range. 585 00:27:04,556 --> 00:27:06,222 BILL BIRNES: After Operation Mainbrace, 586 00:27:06,324 --> 00:27:09,393 there were so many sailors who saw the objects, 587 00:27:09,493 --> 00:27:12,129 and airmen from the RA4 that saw the objects, 588 00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:14,164 this wasn't just one or two people. 589 00:27:14,265 --> 00:27:16,968 These were crew members on the USS FDR. 590 00:27:17,067 --> 00:27:21,071 So this is one of those very famous multiple sightings, 591 00:27:21,172 --> 00:27:23,908 where everybody saw these objects. 592 00:27:24,009 --> 00:27:26,210 NARRATOR: One journalist aboard the USS FDR 593 00:27:26,310 --> 00:27:29,346 during the operations had perhaps the very best view 594 00:27:29,446 --> 00:27:32,649 of this reported swarm of USO activity, 595 00:27:32,750 --> 00:27:35,853 through his camera lens. 596 00:27:35,953 --> 00:27:40,023 September 20, 1952, 11:00 AM. 597 00:27:40,125 --> 00:27:43,094 Several crewmen witnessed yet another fast-maneuvering 598 00:27:43,193 --> 00:27:45,363 spherical USO rise from the water 599 00:27:45,462 --> 00:27:48,832 to the sky just behind the fleet. 600 00:27:48,932 --> 00:27:50,434 Journalist Wallace Litwin, on board 601 00:27:50,535 --> 00:27:52,804 the FDR, documenting the operation, 602 00:27:52,903 --> 00:27:56,374 points his 35-millimeter Canon camera at the horizon 603 00:27:56,473 --> 00:27:59,976 and quickly snaps two images of a fast-moving disc that 604 00:28:00,077 --> 00:28:02,846 seemingly defies all laws of gravity. 605 00:28:02,946 --> 00:28:04,682 [camera clicks] 606 00:28:06,050 --> 00:28:08,252 The images were believed to have been studied by the Navy, 607 00:28:08,353 --> 00:28:10,520 but no official report was ever filed. 608 00:28:10,622 --> 00:28:12,490 [camera clicks] 609 00:28:13,791 --> 00:28:16,894 Wallace Litwin took photos of the flying discs going 610 00:28:16,994 --> 00:28:20,096 over the USS FDR in Operation Mainbrace. 611 00:28:20,198 --> 00:28:21,666 I got copies of his photographs. 612 00:28:21,766 --> 00:28:23,634 Shows the object going over the ship. 613 00:28:23,734 --> 00:28:26,069 And you see the ship's superstructure and part 614 00:28:26,171 --> 00:28:28,872 of a wing of an airplane, just like a bright light going 615 00:28:28,972 --> 00:28:30,173 to a ship with the forward jump. 616 00:28:30,275 --> 00:28:31,108 And they said it was like a disc, 617 00:28:31,209 --> 00:28:34,644 like some of the witnesses. 618 00:28:34,746 --> 00:28:37,982 NARRATOR: USO sightings aboard the USS FDR during Operation 619 00:28:38,083 --> 00:28:43,354 Mainbrace were not exclusive to enlisted men and non-coms. 620 00:28:43,454 --> 00:28:45,589 Some believe that General Dwight Eisenhower 621 00:28:45,690 --> 00:28:48,926 may have even witnessed similar objects as a guest 622 00:28:49,027 --> 00:28:51,562 aboard the FDR. 623 00:28:51,663 --> 00:28:52,896 STEVEN GREER: I have heard reports 624 00:28:52,997 --> 00:28:55,833 that Eisenhower was on the FDR when one of these sightings 625 00:28:55,933 --> 00:28:58,269 occurred. 626 00:28:58,368 --> 00:29:03,006 The people who are the serious witnesses to operations 627 00:29:03,107 --> 00:29:05,876 and events have been afraid to come forward, 628 00:29:05,977 --> 00:29:07,245 both because they've been threatened, 629 00:29:07,345 --> 00:29:10,114 but they're also afraid of being ridiculed. 630 00:29:10,214 --> 00:29:12,782 NARRATOR: According to experts, many documents involving 631 00:29:12,884 --> 00:29:14,852 Mainbrace remain classified. 632 00:29:14,952 --> 00:29:17,387 However, others have been released. 633 00:29:17,489 --> 00:29:20,591 Is there a motive for officials to keep 50-year-old events 634 00:29:20,692 --> 00:29:22,192 secret? 635 00:29:22,292 --> 00:29:23,593 BILL BIRNES: The military-- in fact, 636 00:29:23,694 --> 00:29:26,129 the militaries of all first-world nations, 637 00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:27,897 treat these things as threats. 638 00:29:27,999 --> 00:29:31,235 They say the fact that they can penetrate airspace, 639 00:29:31,336 --> 00:29:34,270 they can go into highly secure areas, 640 00:29:34,372 --> 00:29:37,208 they can out-fly our fastest jets. 641 00:29:37,307 --> 00:29:40,278 Does that mean they're hostile? 642 00:29:40,377 --> 00:29:42,547 NARRATOR: Although many FDR veterans and researchers 643 00:29:42,646 --> 00:29:45,983 suspect that the ship's advanced capabilities may have made her 644 00:29:46,084 --> 00:29:50,688 a target for otherworldly attention, some wonder, 645 00:29:50,788 --> 00:29:52,556 could all of this reported activity 646 00:29:52,656 --> 00:29:55,125 actually serve as proof? 647 00:29:55,226 --> 00:29:57,795 HARRY JORDAN: I have spoken with people over the years, 648 00:29:57,895 --> 00:30:00,497 since my Roosevelt experience and that one, 649 00:30:00,597 --> 00:30:03,000 and have seen the evidence firsthand. 650 00:30:03,101 --> 00:30:06,537 To those who have not had those experiences, 651 00:30:06,637 --> 00:30:08,471 you cannot know what you've yet to experience. 652 00:30:08,573 --> 00:30:12,143 And hopefully, you'll believe that they are out there. 653 00:30:18,750 --> 00:30:19,817 [music playing] 654 00:30:19,917 --> 00:30:20,751 ANNOUNCER (ON RECORDING): Now, Ivan Sanderson, 655 00:30:20,852 --> 00:30:25,256 explorer, taking you into adventure! 656 00:30:25,355 --> 00:30:29,559 USOs, in general, are unidentified submerged objects. 657 00:30:29,661 --> 00:30:32,930 USOs have been in history for a long, long time. 658 00:30:33,030 --> 00:30:36,332 And an associate and friend of mine, Ivan T. Sanderson, 659 00:30:36,433 --> 00:30:38,269 did a study of them long ago. 660 00:30:38,368 --> 00:30:40,270 They are there all the time. 661 00:30:40,371 --> 00:30:41,371 They're in the data. 662 00:30:41,471 --> 00:30:43,307 They're a part of the phenomena. 663 00:30:43,407 --> 00:30:46,509 Even more frightening than extraterrestrials 664 00:30:46,611 --> 00:30:49,914 is what Ivan T. Sanderson said when he wrote the book, 665 00:30:50,013 --> 00:30:51,747 "Invisible Residents." 666 00:30:51,849 --> 00:30:53,983 They're not extraterrestrials. 667 00:30:54,085 --> 00:30:55,786 They're already here. 668 00:30:55,886 --> 00:30:57,754 [music playing] 669 00:31:00,124 --> 00:31:02,826 NARRATOR: To this day, the pioneering USO research 670 00:31:02,926 --> 00:31:06,263 by zoologist and former British spy, Ivan T. Sanderson, 671 00:31:06,364 --> 00:31:09,467 continues to astound and frighten experts and buffs 672 00:31:09,567 --> 00:31:11,434 alike. 673 00:31:11,536 --> 00:31:15,172 His controversial 1970 book, "Invisible Residents," 674 00:31:15,272 --> 00:31:17,474 forever opened the world's eyes and ears 675 00:31:17,575 --> 00:31:22,513 to the murky realm of unidentified submerged objects. 676 00:31:22,614 --> 00:31:25,816 Sanderson proposes two primary theories about UFOs 677 00:31:25,916 --> 00:31:28,384 in "Invisible Residents." 678 00:31:28,486 --> 00:31:31,956 The first is that UFOs are, in fact, here and have either 679 00:31:32,056 --> 00:31:34,859 evolved along with the Earth or have come from space 680 00:31:34,959 --> 00:31:37,894 and made a home in our oceans long ago. 681 00:31:37,996 --> 00:31:39,397 PRESTON DENNETT: When you talk about underwater UFOs, 682 00:31:39,497 --> 00:31:43,067 you have to remember that 3/4 of the Earth's surface 683 00:31:43,166 --> 00:31:44,268 is covered with water. 684 00:31:44,368 --> 00:31:47,704 And UFOs are seen pretty much all over the Earth, 685 00:31:47,805 --> 00:31:49,106 in every country. 686 00:31:49,207 --> 00:31:52,076 So it's not at all surprising that they're using the oceans, 687 00:31:52,175 --> 00:31:56,880 because we haven't even fully explored the oceans ourselves. 688 00:31:56,980 --> 00:31:58,849 NARRATOR: Sanderson's USO theories lead 689 00:31:58,950 --> 00:32:01,052 to a stark prospect. 690 00:32:01,152 --> 00:32:04,855 If over 50% of UFO reports occur on or above water, 691 00:32:04,955 --> 00:32:11,828 as he reports, are over 50% of these UFOs in fact USOs? 692 00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:14,998 You know, UFOs are not just being seen over land. 693 00:32:15,098 --> 00:32:18,869 Ivan T. Sanderson said that 50% of all UFOs 694 00:32:18,970 --> 00:32:22,573 were actually being seen over bodies of water. 695 00:32:22,673 --> 00:32:26,477 BILL BIRNES: Do USOs mean that living underneath the surface 696 00:32:26,576 --> 00:32:30,815 of planet Earth is a whole civilization of creatures, 697 00:32:30,914 --> 00:32:34,652 entities, aliens for whom Earth is home? 698 00:32:34,751 --> 00:32:36,686 Just as it's home for us on the surface? 699 00:32:36,788 --> 00:32:39,323 And these were residents who have been here for millions 700 00:32:39,423 --> 00:32:42,192 of years, probably before life evolved 701 00:32:42,292 --> 00:32:45,795 on the surface of the planet. 702 00:32:45,896 --> 00:32:48,164 NARRATOR: As evidence of his second theory, 703 00:32:48,266 --> 00:32:50,802 Sanderson says there are several crucial points 704 00:32:50,902 --> 00:32:54,372 across the Earth, together forming an unseen, invisible 705 00:32:54,471 --> 00:32:55,506 map. 706 00:32:55,605 --> 00:32:59,042 Triangles that he refers to as "vile vortices." 707 00:33:01,746 --> 00:33:04,615 By locating the areas where ships and aircraft reportedly 708 00:33:04,715 --> 00:33:08,585 disappear, Sanderson realized that the USO sightings 709 00:33:08,685 --> 00:33:11,688 correlate almost perfectly with the triangles on Earth, 710 00:33:11,788 --> 00:33:14,791 where it is believed that strange magnetic anomalies 711 00:33:14,892 --> 00:33:15,359 occur. 712 00:33:15,460 --> 00:33:17,095 [music playing] 713 00:33:19,931 --> 00:33:23,834 LOREN COLEMAN: He wondered if some of these unusual spaces, 714 00:33:23,934 --> 00:33:27,403 whether they were called "triangles" or you know, 715 00:33:27,505 --> 00:33:30,874 "vortices" or whatever, might have unusual animals, 716 00:33:30,974 --> 00:33:35,678 might have USOs coming in and out of them. 717 00:33:35,779 --> 00:33:38,682 NARRATOR: Sanderson's vortices theory has a terrible dark side 718 00:33:38,782 --> 00:33:40,250 as well. 719 00:33:40,351 --> 00:33:42,686 The major areas of anomaly are the areas 720 00:33:42,787 --> 00:33:45,322 located in some of the most treacherous water regions 721 00:33:45,423 --> 00:33:48,291 on Earth. 722 00:33:48,393 --> 00:33:51,428 BILL BIRNES: Ivan Sanderson did a latitudinal study, 723 00:33:51,528 --> 00:33:54,932 and found out that there is a line around the planet in which 724 00:33:55,032 --> 00:33:58,336 geographic North and magnetic North merge. 725 00:33:58,435 --> 00:34:02,538 And these are areas that have a great deal of lost vessels, 726 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,410 lost planes, and manifestations of objects. 727 00:34:06,510 --> 00:34:08,478 NARRATOR: After 17 years of research, 728 00:34:08,579 --> 00:34:11,282 Sanderson came to one startling conclusion. 729 00:34:11,382 --> 00:34:15,184 There is a clear link between the high number of USO reports 730 00:34:15,286 --> 00:34:18,054 and the areas of unusual gravitational or vortex 731 00:34:18,155 --> 00:34:19,922 pulls on Earth. 732 00:34:20,023 --> 00:34:22,625 The specific areas where the two intersect 733 00:34:22,726 --> 00:34:26,696 are the mysterious triangle regions off Bermuda, Japan, 734 00:34:26,797 --> 00:34:27,697 and Australia. 735 00:34:27,798 --> 00:34:28,932 IVAN SANDERSON (ON RECORDING): I think 736 00:34:29,032 --> 00:34:31,000 it's about time that somebody does go into the sea 737 00:34:31,101 --> 00:34:33,703 instead of just sitting sadly and saying it doesn't exist 738 00:34:33,804 --> 00:34:35,605 or saying it's a forgery. 739 00:34:35,706 --> 00:34:37,641 Go ahead and prove it. 740 00:34:37,742 --> 00:34:38,776 NARRATOR: According to Sanderson, 741 00:34:38,876 --> 00:34:40,845 this link is no coincidence. 742 00:34:40,945 --> 00:34:44,315 He believes that the unusual magnetic hotspots on Earth 743 00:34:44,414 --> 00:34:47,518 and high number of USO sightings are connected. 744 00:34:47,617 --> 00:34:49,753 And for a reason. 745 00:34:49,853 --> 00:34:53,890 In fact, some USO researchers have interpreted the vortices 746 00:34:53,990 --> 00:34:57,661 as likely locations of USO bases. 747 00:34:57,762 --> 00:35:01,132 Where he began to think about underwater bases, 748 00:35:01,231 --> 00:35:03,601 are they aliens from outer space, 749 00:35:03,701 --> 00:35:06,003 are they really interacting with us-- 750 00:35:06,103 --> 00:35:09,806 And I believe that over time, there are various times, 751 00:35:09,907 --> 00:35:11,809 there have been concentrated areas 752 00:35:11,909 --> 00:35:16,547 of extraterrestrial facilities that are based underwater, very 753 00:35:16,646 --> 00:35:19,916 deep and undetectable, where they've been observing what 754 00:35:20,016 --> 00:35:21,219 we're doing. 755 00:35:21,318 --> 00:35:23,954 BILL BIRNES: USOs might be indigenous to planet Earth. 756 00:35:24,054 --> 00:35:26,690 They were even here before we were. 757 00:35:26,791 --> 00:35:28,326 [music playing] 758 00:35:28,425 --> 00:35:30,293 NARRATOR: A remarkable, yet virtually forgotten 759 00:35:30,393 --> 00:35:32,995 USO case from Sanderson's research 760 00:35:33,097 --> 00:35:35,198 is the mysterious St. Andrew incident 761 00:35:35,298 --> 00:35:40,436 off the coast of Nova Scotia, Canada on October 30, 1906. 762 00:35:40,538 --> 00:35:43,005 One of the great cases from the early part 763 00:35:43,106 --> 00:35:46,210 of the 20th century is the SS St. Andrew. 764 00:35:46,309 --> 00:35:49,078 She was a vessel that was crossing the Atlantic, 765 00:35:49,179 --> 00:35:50,446 on her way to Hamburg. 766 00:35:50,547 --> 00:35:54,950 She was off Halifax when not only her crew, but passengers 767 00:35:55,052 --> 00:35:59,356 aboard that ship, sighted a UFO. 768 00:35:59,456 --> 00:36:01,692 NARRATOR: Sanderson reports that at 4:30 PM, 769 00:36:01,791 --> 00:36:04,161 the ship was bombarded by a huge flaming 770 00:36:04,262 --> 00:36:07,798 object that zigzags through the sky, falls into the water, 771 00:36:07,898 --> 00:36:08,464 and disappears. 772 00:36:08,565 --> 00:36:09,866 [splash] 773 00:36:09,967 --> 00:36:12,970 But according to his reports, it couldn't have been a meteor. 774 00:36:13,070 --> 00:36:15,272 Because meteors do not zig-zag and move 775 00:36:15,373 --> 00:36:18,708 with apparent intelligent control. 776 00:36:18,809 --> 00:36:22,379 The story was even covered in the "New York Times." 777 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,182 First Officer V. E. Spencer says, 778 00:36:24,282 --> 00:36:27,151 quote, "I have seen meteors all over the world, 779 00:36:27,251 --> 00:36:31,722 but never such a large one as this." 780 00:36:31,822 --> 00:36:34,791 Throughout Sanderson's career, a cloud of mystery 781 00:36:34,891 --> 00:36:36,292 drifted around him. 782 00:36:36,393 --> 00:36:38,695 LOREN COLEMAN: Sanderson was a part of the British 783 00:36:38,795 --> 00:36:40,062 Intelligence Service. 784 00:36:40,164 --> 00:36:43,968 But what we're really cloudy about is a lot of his friends 785 00:36:44,068 --> 00:36:48,573 were in the OSS, which was the precursor to the CIA. 786 00:36:48,672 --> 00:36:51,741 And then as we can tell from some of his books, 787 00:36:51,842 --> 00:36:53,677 Sanderson had a direct connection 788 00:36:53,777 --> 00:36:56,046 to the Office of Navy Intelligence 789 00:36:56,146 --> 00:36:59,048 and was getting information from them. 790 00:36:59,150 --> 00:37:01,585 NARRATOR: Until his death in 1973, 791 00:37:01,686 --> 00:37:03,753 Sanderson traversed the globe in search 792 00:37:03,853 --> 00:37:06,489 of underwater submerged objects. 793 00:37:06,590 --> 00:37:09,726 Today, some USO experts believe his research was provided 794 00:37:09,827 --> 00:37:13,964 to him by highly-placed government sources. 795 00:37:14,065 --> 00:37:16,833 Many of us wonder, was Sanderson still 796 00:37:16,934 --> 00:37:19,202 in the intelligence services? 797 00:37:19,302 --> 00:37:22,505 Was he still going on some of his expeditions, some 798 00:37:22,606 --> 00:37:26,175 of his explorations, and using part of what he was 799 00:37:26,277 --> 00:37:28,278 doing to feed back to his old friends 800 00:37:28,378 --> 00:37:29,945 in intelligence services? 801 00:37:30,047 --> 00:37:31,981 But also, getting new information for his 802 00:37:32,083 --> 00:37:33,717 books from them, too. 803 00:37:33,818 --> 00:37:36,320 NARRATOR: At the end of his life, weakened by cancer, 804 00:37:36,420 --> 00:37:39,456 Sanderson fell victim to friends and enemies alike, 805 00:37:39,556 --> 00:37:41,491 who coveted his research. 806 00:37:41,592 --> 00:37:44,695 LOREN COLEMAN: A lot of people would back their station wagon 807 00:37:44,795 --> 00:37:46,630 up to his bunkhouse and said they 808 00:37:46,731 --> 00:37:50,534 were going to borrow files, and never brought them back. 809 00:37:50,635 --> 00:37:53,403 NARRATOR: Speculation continues in various circles 810 00:37:53,503 --> 00:37:56,406 about whether secret government operatives removed Sanderson's 811 00:37:56,507 --> 00:38:00,409 files, thereby destroying the best cache of deep sea UFO 812 00:38:00,510 --> 00:38:03,146 evidence ever collected. 813 00:38:03,246 --> 00:38:04,681 LOREN COLEMAN: In the beginning, Ivan Sanderson 814 00:38:04,782 --> 00:38:07,550 was thinking about USOs as creatures 815 00:38:07,652 --> 00:38:10,221 that were in the air that came into water. 816 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,389 Towards the end of his career, he also 817 00:38:12,489 --> 00:38:15,892 had to engage in thinking about them as possibly 818 00:38:15,992 --> 00:38:20,398 intelligent craft from outer space. 819 00:38:24,135 --> 00:38:25,769 [music playing] 820 00:38:25,869 --> 00:38:29,039 According to experts, one of the most impressive traits of USOs 821 00:38:29,139 --> 00:38:31,808 is their ability to affect, change, and displace 822 00:38:31,909 --> 00:38:35,646 the surface of the water, in much the same way that UFOs 823 00:38:35,746 --> 00:38:41,918 in our skies reportedly generate similar crop circles on land. 824 00:38:42,018 --> 00:38:45,354 CARL FEINDT: An interesting aspect of UFO/USOs 825 00:38:45,456 --> 00:38:50,294 is the fact that they leave a physical presence on the water. 826 00:38:50,393 --> 00:38:54,496 BILL BIRNES: USOs create the same kind of effect over water, 827 00:38:54,597 --> 00:38:55,731 over ice. 828 00:38:55,833 --> 00:38:58,034 So there's a real similarity between 829 00:38:58,135 --> 00:39:02,973 the physical trace evidence of a USO landing 830 00:39:03,074 --> 00:39:05,943 and a UFO landing on planet Earth. 831 00:39:06,043 --> 00:39:08,278 CARL FEINDT: And this is like if you took a glass 832 00:39:08,378 --> 00:39:10,647 and you stuck it in water, right? 833 00:39:10,748 --> 00:39:14,485 Well, now you have a hole on the water. 834 00:39:14,585 --> 00:39:16,586 NARRATOR: To USO researchers, the most impressive 835 00:39:16,686 --> 00:39:19,656 and well-publicized water crop circle case 836 00:39:19,757 --> 00:39:22,259 is the Tully Water Nest case, which 837 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,829 occurred in northern Australia in January, 1966. 838 00:39:26,931 --> 00:39:28,298 BILL BIRNES: This Tully's Nest story 839 00:39:28,398 --> 00:39:34,137 was one of the most publicized USO/UFO events in Australia. 840 00:39:34,237 --> 00:39:38,140 In fact, it had much the same kind of publicity that Roswell 841 00:39:38,242 --> 00:39:41,411 had here in the United States, because everybody was involved, 842 00:39:41,512 --> 00:39:43,113 the military, the newspapers. 843 00:39:43,213 --> 00:39:44,880 It became a tourist attraction. 844 00:39:44,981 --> 00:39:47,250 People made pilgrimages to Tully's Nest 845 00:39:47,351 --> 00:39:51,988 to see where the USO came out of the water. 846 00:39:52,088 --> 00:39:54,990 NARRATOR: Over the past decade, Australian researcher Bill 847 00:39:55,092 --> 00:39:58,128 Chalker has conducted the most intensive study of the Tully 848 00:39:58,228 --> 00:39:59,628 case. 849 00:39:59,730 --> 00:40:03,567 BILL CHALKER: At 9:00 AM on January 19, 1966, 850 00:40:03,666 --> 00:40:05,635 a farmer, young farmer George Pedley, 851 00:40:05,735 --> 00:40:11,574 was driving a tractor through a neighboring farmer's property, 852 00:40:11,675 --> 00:40:14,278 a place called Horseshoe Lagoon, near Tully 853 00:40:14,378 --> 00:40:16,146 in far North Queensland. 854 00:40:16,246 --> 00:40:20,650 And he first started to experience some problems 855 00:40:20,751 --> 00:40:22,052 with his tractor. 856 00:40:22,152 --> 00:40:24,187 It seemed to be sort of missing, and as 857 00:40:24,288 --> 00:40:26,023 if it was about to stop on him. 858 00:40:26,123 --> 00:40:29,360 And then he heard this high-pitched hissing noise. 859 00:40:29,460 --> 00:40:32,195 And he looked in the direction of where this noise was coming 860 00:40:32,295 --> 00:40:38,134 from, and at about 20 to 30 feet away, rising from the lagoon 861 00:40:38,235 --> 00:40:42,572 was a sort of a disc-shaped, metallic-looking object that 862 00:40:42,672 --> 00:40:46,208 rose up to an altitude of about 30 to 40 feet, 863 00:40:46,309 --> 00:40:49,078 and then appeared to go into a shallow dive 864 00:40:49,179 --> 00:40:50,446 and then take off at high speed. 865 00:40:50,547 --> 00:40:51,614 [splash] 866 00:40:52,750 --> 00:40:54,083 NARRATOR: George Pedley described the objects 867 00:40:54,184 --> 00:40:56,652 as appearing like two massive dinner plates stacked 868 00:40:56,753 --> 00:41:01,324 atop one another, about 30 feet in width and 12 feet in height. 869 00:41:04,661 --> 00:41:06,895 BILL CHALKER: It was a media sensation for quite a number 870 00:41:06,996 --> 00:41:09,765 of weeks, with sort of correspondents 871 00:41:09,867 --> 00:41:11,969 appearing, giving kind of on the spot reports. 872 00:41:12,068 --> 00:41:14,204 And there was even international coverage of it, 873 00:41:14,304 --> 00:41:18,841 and it was described in the press as a flying saucer nest. 874 00:41:18,943 --> 00:41:21,778 NARRATOR: This nest contained evidence of a reported USO 875 00:41:21,878 --> 00:41:25,014 touchdown, a distinctive imprint left behind 876 00:41:25,114 --> 00:41:27,517 on the surface of the lagoon. 877 00:41:27,617 --> 00:41:29,184 BILL BIRNES: The whirlpool effect 878 00:41:29,286 --> 00:41:34,090 in the water lasted for days and days after the USO took off. 879 00:41:34,190 --> 00:41:35,491 The Navy tested it. 880 00:41:35,592 --> 00:41:37,460 Scientists tested it. 881 00:41:37,561 --> 00:41:41,097 A lot of tests were done on it, and analyses were done on it, 882 00:41:41,197 --> 00:41:42,599 and there were all kinds of theories. 883 00:41:42,699 --> 00:41:45,835 And what they found was, nothing could explain the water 884 00:41:45,936 --> 00:41:48,639 impressions. 885 00:41:48,739 --> 00:41:50,706 NARRATOR: In his numerous interviews and investigations 886 00:41:50,807 --> 00:41:53,643 over the years, Chalker found George Pedley 887 00:41:53,744 --> 00:41:57,914 to be a unique USO witness. 888 00:41:58,014 --> 00:41:59,648 BILL CHALKER: George Pedley impressed me 889 00:41:59,750 --> 00:42:02,753 as being a very credible kind of witness, 890 00:42:02,853 --> 00:42:06,490 a typical kind of North Queenslander type, cane farmer 891 00:42:06,590 --> 00:42:07,824 character. 892 00:42:07,925 --> 00:42:09,092 Really the last kind of person you'd 893 00:42:09,193 --> 00:42:12,528 expect to come out with a story like this. 894 00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:13,730 NARRATOR: During the various public 895 00:42:13,831 --> 00:42:15,466 and private investigations in Tully 896 00:42:15,565 --> 00:42:18,534 over the subsequent weeks, at least a half dozen 897 00:42:18,635 --> 00:42:22,072 other water nests were identified in the area. 898 00:42:22,172 --> 00:42:24,474 Water samples was sent to the Physics Department 899 00:42:24,574 --> 00:42:29,011 at the University of Brisbane for radiation testing. 900 00:42:29,112 --> 00:42:30,547 A reed from the center of the water 901 00:42:30,648 --> 00:42:33,416 nest tested positive for beta radiation. 902 00:42:33,516 --> 00:42:38,221 But within days, the sample mysteriously disappeared. 903 00:42:38,322 --> 00:42:41,559 Research into the Tully case continues to this day. 904 00:42:44,862 --> 00:42:48,865 With no shortage of USO cases in the past and present, 905 00:42:48,965 --> 00:42:52,668 many continue to wonder why these objects are here 906 00:42:52,769 --> 00:42:54,804 and what could possibly be next. 907 00:42:54,905 --> 00:42:55,839 [splash] 908 00:42:55,940 --> 00:42:57,307 CHARLES HOWARD: My belief is, you've 909 00:42:57,407 --> 00:43:00,175 got this big universe and all these different planets. 910 00:43:00,277 --> 00:43:01,711 I mean, anything is possible. 911 00:43:01,811 --> 00:43:05,014 Why should we be the only intelligent beings? 912 00:43:05,114 --> 00:43:07,116 NARRATOR: Some researchers interpret the recent events 913 00:43:07,217 --> 00:43:11,387 involving USOs as something more sinister. 914 00:43:11,487 --> 00:43:12,589 STEVEN GREER: I believe that there 915 00:43:12,690 --> 00:43:14,724 are extraterrestrial civilizations who have been 916 00:43:14,824 --> 00:43:18,060 watching our development over the last 100 years, 917 00:43:18,161 --> 00:43:20,864 with knowing there's a lot of promise. 918 00:43:20,965 --> 00:43:23,100 But also, a lot of risk. 919 00:43:23,199 --> 00:43:25,134 No doubt about, there's something going on. 920 00:43:25,235 --> 00:43:26,536 They're covering this stuff up. 921 00:43:26,637 --> 00:43:28,572 They're lying, and I would like to see congressional hearings 922 00:43:28,672 --> 00:43:30,807 in Washington to cut the crap and let us see what's going on, 923 00:43:30,907 --> 00:43:31,775 you know? 924 00:43:31,875 --> 00:43:33,809 Does it mean that somehow, there 925 00:43:33,911 --> 00:43:37,646 is an event coming on planet Earth, cataclysmic, end 926 00:43:37,748 --> 00:43:38,847 of time? 927 00:43:38,949 --> 00:43:41,784 And somehow, the USOs are coming out of the Earth, 928 00:43:41,885 --> 00:43:44,187 because the Earth itself is in trouble? 929 00:43:44,288 --> 00:43:45,789 Maybe we're nearing the end of days. 930 00:43:45,889 --> 00:43:47,691 [music playing] 931 00:43:50,094 --> 00:43:51,295 [splashes] 932 00:43:54,597 --> 00:43:57,333 [music playing] 74320

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