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There's a level of genius
there that is amazing.
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-He always used to say
"I was born dead,
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so I had to make
a life for myself."
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-"Live at the Apollo" is one
of the most important albums
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in the history
of recorded music.
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-They saw all that money.
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They said, if you don't pay us
tonight, we're going to walk.
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-He was a risk taker.
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He gave you sex and protest
at the same time.
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-Say it loud --
I'm black and I'm proud.
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-That's one of the most
bravest things
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that James Brown has ever done.
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It's the original
Black Lives Matter.
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-The Black Panthers
pressured James Brown.
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If you soul brother number one,
then you need to do something
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standing for
what we're talking about.
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-Mr. Brown's endorsement
of Richard Nixon,
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it was a misstep.
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-He said, well, you know what?
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Saying these kind of things,
you'd be called a Tom.
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♪
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The way I look back, I say, God.
How did I get this far?
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But I say thank God,
and I also thank the people.
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♪
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-James Brown is very invested
in black self-determination.
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That, for him, was his ethic.
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It was his way of being
in the world.
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-♪ Too funky in here
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♪ Yeah, uh-huh
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-You have to judge
where somebody's at by
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where they came from
and the difficulties
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that they had to endure
to get there.
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-♪ Too, funky, funky, yeah
-♪ Say it again
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-We give it to James Brown
for laying the concrete,
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and then everybody else did
their thing on it afterwards.
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-♪ My name is Brown
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[ Vocalizing ]
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♪ Let's go
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-Brown was doing
a show in Las Vegas,
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and Sylvester Stallone
was at the front desk.
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And he said to Brown,
"You got to be in my movie."
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-♪ Disco soul,
the hippest thing ♪
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-He dabbled off
into other things
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because we all tried things,
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but it was doing that that
caused him a lot of problems.
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-♪ Somebody's gonna get
a knockdown ♪
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-The violence, the abuse
that he caused my mom,
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I remember it so vividly.
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♪
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-He never got over feeling
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like anyone really cared
and loved him.
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He never got over
the abandonment.
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-There's a lot of missteps
in his life,
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and there's a lot of genius
in his life.
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For historical purposes,
everything can be a lesson,
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flaws, warts and all.
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-♪ Funky, huh
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[ Screams ]
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[ Cheers and applause ]
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-Soul music is the truth.
He's telling it like it is.
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It's life in the raw.
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[ Cheers and applause ]
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The black community is --
right now,
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is the biggest consumer --
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consumer market
for entertainment.
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50% of the album product
in the world is black product.
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72% of the single soul
are Black singles.
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Now, why should
the black community perish
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when they're supporting
everything?
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♪
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-James Brown was always
about black capitalism.
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You know, you can march
and protest all you want to,
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but we need some money.
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-James Brown, he doesn't
get credit for his brilliance.
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It's the person, the brain,
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the mind that generated
the music,
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not the other way around.
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So he wasn't just a singer
and a dancer.
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He was a thinker,
a philosopher, a builder.
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James Brown became the model
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of how you could be successful
and authentic.
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-I want you to know that,
only in this country,
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the shoeshine boy.
can start
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from where I started from
and be where I am today.
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♪ Here's a dime, boy
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♪ Gimme a shine, boy
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[ Screams ]
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♪ Down and out
in New York City ♪
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♪
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-During the Nixon era,
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you have Mr. Brown
promoting self-determination
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and thinking about, well,
how can we advance black people?
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Post that, you have him
doing these soundtracks
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for blaxploitation.
Well, what is blaxploitation?
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It is the anti-hero
gaining prominence,
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the people who we don't think
about --
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the hustlers, the pimps,
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all of these characters
that he's familiar with,
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by the way, from his childhood.
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-Let's talk about this one,
"The Black Caesar."
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-Well, this is the one
I had the pleasure of doing
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with brother Fred Williams,
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and it was just
a fantastic thing.
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It showed that you could
take street music,
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people music and make it
what's happening?
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-Those soundtracks were
very important
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that he was
a part of them.
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There were not a lot of
opportunities for black actors
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and black directors,
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and blaxploitation films
were a medium.
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-And you finally get to also
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have some of the dopest artists
of the time --
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you know, Curtis Mayfield
with "Superfly,"
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Isaac Hayes
with "Shaft."
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You had James Brown
doing "Black Caesar."
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So it's just an extension
of the black liberation movement
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and black freedom struggle
that he was already fighting
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definitely in the mid
to late '60s,
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but bleeding over into the '70s.
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♪
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-"The Payback" was actually
supposed to be
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the third soundtrack.
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-When the song starts,
the first voice that you hear
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is my voice hitting
that high pitch, that high note.
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♪
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-"Payback" started out to be
the soundtrack
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for what was going to be called
"Hell Up in Harlem."
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-It was turned down
from a movie
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because I said
it wasn't soulful enough.
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That made me angry,
and I put the song out.
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♪
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-♪ Amen
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-"The Payback" --
He hit the mother lode on that.
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Both the record
and the single itself,
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"Payback,"
number ones.
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James Brown, most of
his singles were R&B-oriented,
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so that's where he had
the most presence chart-wise
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in the Billboard arena.
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So the chart we call now,
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it was R&B songs
back in the day.
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It's called Hot R&B
Hip-Hop songs.
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He had more than 100 hits
on that chart alone,
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and 17 of those
were number ones.
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-The idea that an artist
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could consistently
reinvent his music
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to the point of being
considered cutting edge
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for as long
as James Brown did,
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arguably from the "Apollo"
album in 1962
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up through "The Big Payback"
in '73,
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that's unheard of.
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-And one thing
about James Brown,
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it's like Coca Cola.
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They spell it and say it
the same way in every language.
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♪ Hit it
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♪
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-James Brown's marketing
and branding was so on point,
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and People Records was cool
because People Records had
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the the purple label
People Records,
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and then they had
the red label People Records.
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-The fact that when you bought
a James Brown record,
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it had his picture on it,
it was a James Brown production.
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-♪ Look at him, ha
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-If you think
about that blueprint,
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that blueprint was the one
where there was a bunch of acts,
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but they were all kind
of the same group.
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Prince very much
did that same thing,
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where it was a collective
of groups
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that were all kind of together.
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-♪ We're gonna have
a funky good time ♪
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-♪ Take 'em up
-♪ We gotta take 'em higher
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♪
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♪ Should we take 'em?
Should we take 'em? ♪
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♪ Hey
-♪ Hey
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-James Brown always said
he was, like, 75% business
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and 25% entertainment.
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You know, he had a reputation
at one point
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for his business acumen,
which became very questionable
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with the failure of his radio
stations and the restaurant,
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some of the other things
that he lent his name to.
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But if you look at
how he built his career
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in the music business,
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he had a very sharp
business acumen,
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inspiring audiences to go home
after a James Brown show
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and tell everybody,
"My God,
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you got to see this
the next time he comes to town."
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-James Brown was invited
to do the festival in Zaire,
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which I kind of nicknamed
Woodstock in Africa.
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-First of all, we want
to thank all the newsmen
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for so graciously
coming out at this hour
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to see the people --
the champion depart for Africa.
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Going to meet George Foreman,
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and his quest to regain
his crown
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as the heavyweight champion
of the world.
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What I want to do is to add
a little bit more to this --
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the complimentary proposal
we're going to have down there
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with a festival
that will complement
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the greatest sporting event
in the history of the world.
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Some of the most dynamic
performers from Afro-America
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will be appearing down there.
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It will be James Brown,
who is Soul Brother #1,
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one of our top
leading black artists.
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-Is he coming?
-Yes, James Brown
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will be there performing.
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-Not only black liberation
was happening here in America,
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but internationally,
you had these countries
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that were getting liberation
for the first time.
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-I always wanted to go
to Africa.
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Because I want to know where my
soul comes from, the heritage.
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I want to know
where it really started.
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They say I have
so much in common,
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my music even got the drum,
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uh, syncopation,
the movements and the sound.
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-James Brown liked to have
his own people doing his thing,
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so of course, I had to go.
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He insisted that he have
his own engineer
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to record his segment
of the show.
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Prior to getting on the plane,
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they had a reception
press conference
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at the Holiday Inn
at Kennedy Airport.
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So we all went there.
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-It's obvious answer,
but I mean, you, of all people,
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most respected
American in Africa,
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going to Africa.
-No, I --
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You're respected,
but, you know -- come on now,
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you know where that's at,
you know.
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-We got on this chartered flight
to go to Africa,
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the Pointer Sisters,
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the Isley Brothers,
Bill Withers, B.B. King.
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Talk about a plane packed
full of interesting people.
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-Some beautiful ladies, too.
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♪
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-♪ Here I come
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♪ Baby, here I come
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-This is
the Rumble in the Jungle,
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biggest fight in the world.
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-They had postponed the fight
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because Foreman got cut
during training,
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but they did the music festival.
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-There were about
100,000 people in the stadium.
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And when James Brown
hit that stage,
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the stadium erupted.
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-[ Whistles ] First of all,
let's just talk about Zaire.
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Like, his live performance
in Zaire
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when he entered the stage
and like, yo, that...
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[ Cheers and applause ]
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♪ Get down, my girlfriend
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And then he starts
doing the splits.
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-♪ Uh
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♪ Payback is a thing
you got to see ♪
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♪
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♪ Yeah
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♪ You'll never do any damn thing
to me ♪
253
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-It was the best thing ever.
The outfit, bananas.
254
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Must -- Yo -- [ Laughs ]
255
00:11:23,875 --> 00:11:25,500
Yo, he killed that joint.
256
00:11:25,500 --> 00:11:29,542
That's one of my favorite
performances, period.
257
00:11:29,542 --> 00:11:30,958
-♪ I can't stand it
258
00:11:30,958 --> 00:11:33,583
♪ Ooh, can't stand your love
259
00:11:33,583 --> 00:11:35,375
-People began to go
back and forth
260
00:11:35,375 --> 00:11:37,750
in this awakening of Africa
being your home,
261
00:11:37,750 --> 00:11:41,125
and it excited everybody
and excited the times.
262
00:11:41,125 --> 00:11:45,333
He took black American culture
all over the planet.
263
00:11:45,333 --> 00:11:47,917
You know,
he reintroduced it to Africa.
264
00:11:47,917 --> 00:11:50,292
-He had those guys over there,
you know,
265
00:11:50,292 --> 00:11:52,708
trying to get as black
as James Brown.
266
00:11:52,708 --> 00:11:54,875
He made Africans
want to be blacker.
267
00:11:54,875 --> 00:11:56,125
Like, think about that.
268
00:11:56,125 --> 00:11:59,708
-♪ When I say hit it,
hit it ♪
269
00:11:59,708 --> 00:12:02,625
♪ When I say quit it,
quit it ♪
270
00:12:02,625 --> 00:12:04,042
♪ Hit it now
271
00:12:04,042 --> 00:12:05,542
♪
272
00:12:05,542 --> 00:12:08,958
[ Screams ]
273
00:12:08,958 --> 00:12:11,667
-If I speak for Africa itself,
I think Africa is doing
274
00:12:11,667 --> 00:12:15,083
what we should
have been doing long ago.
275
00:12:15,083 --> 00:12:18,167
They're coming into themselves,
and they want to be independent.
276
00:12:18,167 --> 00:12:21,458
Because unless you can
control your own destiny,
277
00:12:21,458 --> 00:12:24,667
then you really don't have a
chance to live very comfortable.
278
00:12:24,667 --> 00:12:26,417
-I ain't got much to say.
279
00:12:26,417 --> 00:12:30,375
The only thing I got to say
is it's been a long time coming.
280
00:12:30,375 --> 00:12:31,917
Now here's the payback.
281
00:12:31,917 --> 00:12:34,500
And remember,
as long as you live.
282
00:12:34,500 --> 00:12:36,042
Papa don't take no mess.
283
00:12:41,708 --> 00:12:43,208
-I know he thinks I'm in.
-Somebody say, "Hey.
284
00:12:43,208 --> 00:12:45,792
There goes J.B."
285
00:12:45,792 --> 00:12:49,208
As long as I've been around
and as clean as I am,
286
00:12:49,208 --> 00:12:52,208
if you don't know me by now,
you never will.
287
00:12:52,208 --> 00:12:54,792
-You just don't know.
-We have to document our heroes.
288
00:12:54,792 --> 00:12:58,375
We have to chronicle
their journeys, you know,
289
00:12:58,375 --> 00:13:00,042
good, bad, or indifferent,
290
00:13:00,042 --> 00:13:02,542
regardless of what happened
throughout their life.
291
00:13:02,542 --> 00:13:06,667
Because whatever happened to
them, they put into their art.
292
00:13:06,667 --> 00:13:08,292
♪
293
00:13:08,292 --> 00:13:09,750
-Can I get down on Papa?
294
00:13:09,750 --> 00:13:11,875
[ Crowd shouting ]
295
00:13:11,875 --> 00:13:13,667
♪ Papa didn't cuss
296
00:13:13,667 --> 00:13:16,625
♪ He didn't raise
a whole lot of fuss ♪
297
00:13:16,625 --> 00:13:18,792
♪ But when we did it wrong,
say it ♪
298
00:13:18,792 --> 00:13:21,208
-♪ Papa beat the hell
out of us ♪
299
00:13:21,208 --> 00:13:23,250
-And that's just like
we said it.
300
00:13:23,250 --> 00:13:25,625
-He wrote the song
"Papa Don't Take No mess."
301
00:13:25,625 --> 00:13:27,333
I lived it.
302
00:13:27,333 --> 00:13:33,375
Now, I went to college,
but my best life's lessons
303
00:13:33,375 --> 00:13:37,042
Was when I was on the road
with my father.
304
00:13:37,042 --> 00:13:38,875
And I could hear him,
305
00:13:38,875 --> 00:13:41,875
how he talked
to different people
306
00:13:41,875 --> 00:13:45,333
and how he wanted his business
taken care of.
307
00:13:45,333 --> 00:13:46,833
I learned a lot
308
00:13:46,833 --> 00:13:50,958
while I was putting
those rollers in his hair.
309
00:13:50,958 --> 00:13:54,417
-Well, Mom was a homemaker.
She wasn't in the business.
310
00:13:54,417 --> 00:13:58,042
And she was happy raising
her two daughters
311
00:13:58,042 --> 00:14:02,042
And being Mrs. James Brown,
period.
312
00:14:02,042 --> 00:14:05,583
I had my own pony.
[ Laughs ]
313
00:14:05,583 --> 00:14:08,042
The pony's name was Sugar.
314
00:14:08,042 --> 00:14:10,125
I was born
in Augusta, Georgia,
315
00:14:10,125 --> 00:14:12,958
but dad was in Japan
when I was born
316
00:14:12,958 --> 00:14:16,792
and he enjoyed
the name Mount Fujiyama.
317
00:14:16,792 --> 00:14:18,542
He changed the spelling
a little bit,
318
00:14:18,542 --> 00:14:20,833
put two "M"s instead of one.
319
00:14:20,833 --> 00:14:23,167
Yamma, the name, came from Dad,
320
00:14:23,167 --> 00:14:26,000
directly
from the Godfather himself.
321
00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,917
He was so serious
most of the time.
322
00:14:27,917 --> 00:14:30,875
Like, he would always
get on me about my hair
323
00:14:30,875 --> 00:14:32,500
when I was a kid.
324
00:14:32,500 --> 00:14:35,250
And just like, "What are you
doing with your hair?
325
00:14:35,250 --> 00:14:36,792
You look a mess right now."
[ Laughs ]
326
00:14:36,792 --> 00:14:39,042
It's just like, really?
You gonna call me out
327
00:14:39,042 --> 00:14:42,542
in front of everybody?
328
00:14:42,542 --> 00:14:47,375
-We lived in a part of Augusta
that was old money,
329
00:14:47,375 --> 00:14:49,042
up on the hill.
330
00:14:49,042 --> 00:14:51,083
Black people
couldn't live there.
331
00:14:51,083 --> 00:14:54,042
We were the first
African American family.
332
00:14:54,042 --> 00:14:56,833
-They moved into a house
up on Walton Way.
333
00:14:56,833 --> 00:14:58,917
I don't think people
were put out at all.
334
00:14:58,917 --> 00:15:00,292
There might have been some
conversation
335
00:15:00,292 --> 00:15:02,042
at the "country club"
or somewhere,
336
00:15:02,042 --> 00:15:06,208
but I don't recall hearing
any conversation about,
337
00:15:06,208 --> 00:15:07,667
you know, "This is terrible.
This is horrible.
338
00:15:07,667 --> 00:15:09,375
He's got to go."
339
00:15:09,375 --> 00:15:11,708
♪
340
00:15:11,708 --> 00:15:15,375
-During Christmas, people
would come from everywhere,
341
00:15:15,375 --> 00:15:19,292
black and white,
to see the decorations.
342
00:15:19,292 --> 00:15:24,250
Couldn't go outside
and socialize with the people,
343
00:15:24,250 --> 00:15:26,208
but I was peeping
out the window.
344
00:15:26,208 --> 00:15:29,500
A few years back,
a Caucasian woman told me,
345
00:15:29,500 --> 00:15:35,375
she says, "I remember coming to
y'all's house during Christmas,"
346
00:15:35,375 --> 00:15:41,208
and that was the first time
she ever saw Black Santa Claus.
347
00:15:41,208 --> 00:15:46,625
Dad introduced a black
Santa Claus in the Deep South.
348
00:15:46,625 --> 00:15:53,250
-♪ Santa Claus goes straight
to the ghetto ♪
349
00:15:53,250 --> 00:15:57,667
-My mom was gorgeous.
They really were truly in love.
350
00:15:57,667 --> 00:15:59,333
I loved seeing them like that
351
00:15:59,333 --> 00:16:01,042
because it wasn't
always like that.
352
00:16:05,500 --> 00:16:08,917
-His father beat his mom,
and he used to get beat, too,
353
00:16:08,917 --> 00:16:10,125
really bad.
354
00:16:10,125 --> 00:16:12,375
And when you see that,
355
00:16:12,375 --> 00:16:16,375
and you think that
that's what love looks like
356
00:16:16,375 --> 00:16:19,042
or that's the only love
that you know,
357
00:16:19,042 --> 00:16:20,875
then that's how
you're going to express it.
358
00:16:20,875 --> 00:16:23,250
-You spend your whole life,
you know, doing something,
359
00:16:23,250 --> 00:16:26,083
and you still wind up paying
dues, from the day you're born
360
00:16:26,083 --> 00:16:28,625
to the day you die and --
-What are you talking about?
361
00:16:28,625 --> 00:16:30,375
-You know, and you get
on your knees every night
362
00:16:30,375 --> 00:16:32,500
and you pray and you do
all those different things,
363
00:16:32,500 --> 00:16:33,875
and you go and worship
at your church
364
00:16:33,875 --> 00:16:35,417
or your temple
or what have you,
365
00:16:35,417 --> 00:16:39,208
and you still wind up
doing the same thing.
366
00:16:39,208 --> 00:16:42,625
-James Brown was never taught
how to be a son, a father,
367
00:16:42,625 --> 00:16:44,167
or a husband.
368
00:16:44,167 --> 00:16:48,625
He didn't have
those examples to fall back on.
369
00:16:48,625 --> 00:16:52,375
-I would explain to James,
you got to cool it.
370
00:16:52,375 --> 00:16:57,042
You know, you got to stop
with this domestic stuff.
371
00:16:57,042 --> 00:16:58,917
But he would tell me, "Jack,
372
00:16:58,917 --> 00:17:00,333
you're looking out
for my welfare,
373
00:17:00,333 --> 00:17:03,083
but stay out of
my domestic affairs."
374
00:17:03,083 --> 00:17:04,958
And I did.
375
00:17:04,958 --> 00:17:06,875
-I grew up, of course,
seeing the love,
376
00:17:06,875 --> 00:17:11,792
but also seeing the hurt that he
caused my mom by abusing her.
377
00:17:11,792 --> 00:17:16,458
-Masculinity in America, period,
has been made a toxic thing.
378
00:17:16,458 --> 00:17:21,542
Our efforts to imitate
what we think manhood is,
379
00:17:21,542 --> 00:17:23,917
based on the definitions
that we've been given,
380
00:17:23,917 --> 00:17:27,375
has always been a detriment
to our families
381
00:17:27,375 --> 00:17:30,000
and the women
in our community, particularly.
382
00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,750
-I came from nothing
out of a life of fighting
383
00:17:34,750 --> 00:17:38,083
and a life
of trying to survive.
384
00:17:38,083 --> 00:17:39,958
-If you're in a survival state,
385
00:17:39,958 --> 00:17:41,750
who do you take
your angst out on?
386
00:17:41,750 --> 00:17:44,250
The people closest to you.
387
00:17:44,250 --> 00:17:49,750
-I remember being like 5 or 6
and just thinking,
388
00:17:49,750 --> 00:17:51,625
"I can't take it anymore."
389
00:17:51,625 --> 00:17:55,542
Like, and you hear about this
where, you know, people's kids
390
00:17:55,542 --> 00:18:01,042
stand up to their parents abuser
before the parent will.
391
00:18:01,042 --> 00:18:02,667
Oh, I remember it clear as day,
392
00:18:02,667 --> 00:18:06,333
the last time
I ever saw him abuse my mom.
393
00:18:06,333 --> 00:18:10,667
Um, [laughs] my mom had on
a blue and white robe,
394
00:18:10,667 --> 00:18:14,542
and he literally was screaming
and hollering at her
395
00:18:14,542 --> 00:18:16,375
and hitting her,
and she was crying.
396
00:18:16,375 --> 00:18:18,875
And I just remember
going over there
397
00:18:18,875 --> 00:18:21,750
and trying to pull him
off of her.
398
00:18:21,750 --> 00:18:26,833
And the look that he gave me
was like, who is this person?
399
00:18:26,833 --> 00:18:28,042
But it didn't even matter to me
400
00:18:28,042 --> 00:18:30,167
because at that moment
I was like,
401
00:18:30,167 --> 00:18:31,792
I'm just trying
to protect my mother.
402
00:18:31,792 --> 00:18:37,250
But it was enough for him
to look at me and, like,
403
00:18:37,250 --> 00:18:39,042
Kind of, "What am I doing?"
404
00:18:39,042 --> 00:18:43,333
-♪ Oh, I wish that I could
take back ♪
405
00:18:43,333 --> 00:18:47,375
♪ All the things
I've done to hurt you ♪
406
00:18:47,375 --> 00:18:52,417
♪ I didn't mean to be so cruel
407
00:18:52,417 --> 00:18:54,375
♪
408
00:18:54,375 --> 00:18:58,042
♪ And yet,
I know I've been selfish ♪
409
00:18:58,042 --> 00:19:04,167
♪ At a time, a jealous fool
410
00:19:04,167 --> 00:19:07,417
-Mom and Dad were married
for ten years.
411
00:19:07,417 --> 00:19:12,750
They separated
because of domestic violence.
412
00:19:12,750 --> 00:19:18,083
My mother had that experience
with my father,
413
00:19:18,083 --> 00:19:22,958
and she left
because of those reasons.
414
00:19:22,958 --> 00:19:26,792
-Once I got married
and thought about what marriage
415
00:19:26,792 --> 00:19:29,292
meant and your responsibilities,
416
00:19:29,292 --> 00:19:31,583
and then I just thought
of him different.
417
00:19:31,583 --> 00:19:35,208
You know, it just always wasn't
the best feeling of thinking
418
00:19:35,208 --> 00:19:37,208
about your dad,
like, on one aspect,
419
00:19:37,208 --> 00:19:40,208
you knew he was this
amazing genius and great talent
420
00:19:40,208 --> 00:19:41,208
you knew he was this
amazing genius and great talent
421
00:19:41,458 --> 00:19:43,583
and had so much
and gave so much to the world.
422
00:19:43,583 --> 00:19:46,917
But then on the other hand,
he was this broken individual
423
00:19:46,917 --> 00:19:50,375
that saw something growing up,
saw his mom get abused.
424
00:19:50,375 --> 00:19:52,583
I mean, now it's easier
to process.
425
00:19:52,583 --> 00:19:54,333
But the five,
six year old Yamma?
426
00:19:54,333 --> 00:19:56,667
Uh-uh, no.
He was public enemy number one.
427
00:20:02,375 --> 00:20:03,583
-We had had a good run in
in '74-'75.
428
00:20:03,583 --> 00:20:04,708
We had a great run.
He was on top.
429
00:20:04,708 --> 00:20:06,333
We had million sellers.
430
00:20:06,333 --> 00:20:08,542
We had number one records
left and right.
431
00:20:08,542 --> 00:20:12,500
'76, disco hit.
432
00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:15,208
♪
433
00:20:15,208 --> 00:20:18,083
♪ It takes a lot
to make a lot ♪
434
00:20:18,083 --> 00:20:21,625
-♪ Oh, yeah
-♪ You can't get it free
435
00:20:21,625 --> 00:20:24,042
-♪ No
-It's such an interesting time,
436
00:20:24,042 --> 00:20:25,250
especially in New York.
437
00:20:25,250 --> 00:20:26,333
There's everything happening.
438
00:20:26,333 --> 00:20:27,583
You've got punk happening,
439
00:20:27,583 --> 00:20:29,917
disco happening,
all getting mixed up.
440
00:20:29,917 --> 00:20:33,167
A lot of other people
were sort of left behind in this
441
00:20:33,167 --> 00:20:38,000
because this was a huge change,
sea change in the musical scene.
442
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,458
-I'm the one who started disco.
443
00:20:39,458 --> 00:20:41,750
Disco is really the vamp
of a soul record.
444
00:20:41,750 --> 00:20:43,875
Like at the very end,
you started doing a repeat
445
00:20:43,875 --> 00:20:46,208
of the things,
that's what disco's about.
446
00:20:46,208 --> 00:20:48,333
-That repetitive nature
of disco
447
00:20:48,333 --> 00:20:51,500
that definitely was influenced
by James.
448
00:20:51,500 --> 00:20:53,250
Those grooves --
you think about the things
449
00:20:53,250 --> 00:20:55,625
that the Bee Gees
would try to do,
450
00:20:55,625 --> 00:20:57,333
you know, jive talk,
all them different things.
451
00:20:57,333 --> 00:20:59,458
You know that comes from James.
452
00:20:59,458 --> 00:21:01,250
-You look on, you see
"Saturday Night Fever,"
453
00:21:01,250 --> 00:21:03,125
you see all the disco shows,
454
00:21:03,125 --> 00:21:04,542
you'll see the percussion
of James Brown,
455
00:21:04,542 --> 00:21:06,333
things that
I got tired of doing.
456
00:21:06,333 --> 00:21:08,792
-By the '70s, you had
a lot of James Brown copycats.
457
00:21:08,792 --> 00:21:11,000
The style was already
everywhere.
458
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,500
-James Brown's genius
sort of got used and eaten up
459
00:21:14,500 --> 00:21:16,750
and borrowed
by every other band.
460
00:21:16,750 --> 00:21:20,542
-He got frustrated
when other artists
461
00:21:20,542 --> 00:21:22,208
that were influenced by him
462
00:21:22,208 --> 00:21:25,042
started to make records
that sounded like him.
463
00:21:25,042 --> 00:21:26,708
When you think about "Fame,"
464
00:21:26,708 --> 00:21:29,208
it sounds like a James Brown
record with David Bowie singing.
465
00:21:29,208 --> 00:21:30,667
-♪ Fame, fame
466
00:21:30,667 --> 00:21:34,292
♪ What you need
you have to borrow ♪
467
00:21:34,292 --> 00:21:36,375
-In his career,
when all these other artists
468
00:21:36,375 --> 00:21:38,167
were making records
that kind of sounded
469
00:21:38,167 --> 00:21:39,708
like James Brown records,
470
00:21:39,708 --> 00:21:42,458
or at least there was
a solid influence from that,
471
00:21:42,458 --> 00:21:44,292
he would get annoyed,
472
00:21:44,292 --> 00:21:48,875
and then he would try to make
a record to outdo that record.
473
00:21:48,875 --> 00:21:53,708
-♪ This morning I woke up
all in heat ♪
474
00:21:53,708 --> 00:21:58,458
♪ Couldn't find no dry spot
from my head down to my feet ♪
475
00:21:58,458 --> 00:22:01,083
-James Brown is on a mission
at this point, in the '70s,
476
00:22:01,083 --> 00:22:05,667
going into the 80s, like,
all right, these boys is coming.
477
00:22:05,667 --> 00:22:07,500
I done gave them the blueprint.
478
00:22:07,500 --> 00:22:10,042
They adding on, you know.
They breaking walls
479
00:22:10,042 --> 00:22:11,667
and they doing their thing.
480
00:22:11,667 --> 00:22:15,042
And technology was also,
you know, starting to push.
481
00:22:15,042 --> 00:22:17,625
-James Brown himself was
trying to catch up with disco.
482
00:22:17,625 --> 00:22:20,083
You know, he was trying to be
the original disco man
483
00:22:20,083 --> 00:22:21,625
and all those things.
484
00:22:21,625 --> 00:22:24,208
It was sort of like
a creative arrested development.
485
00:22:24,208 --> 00:22:27,750
-They do their things.
-[ Laughs ]
486
00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:30,208
[ Laughter ]
487
00:22:30,208 --> 00:22:34,875
-Okay. That's good, that's good.
488
00:22:34,875 --> 00:22:38,625
I know when my parents
were 45, they could not do that.
489
00:22:38,625 --> 00:22:42,500
-James was still really huge
in Europe and Africa.
490
00:22:42,500 --> 00:22:44,625
He just wasn't
doing as big in America.
491
00:22:44,625 --> 00:22:46,708
So he had a lot of free time,
492
00:22:46,708 --> 00:22:49,792
and James would
just pop up everywhere.
493
00:22:49,792 --> 00:22:52,708
I went to an afternoon movie
one time,
494
00:22:52,708 --> 00:22:54,750
and there was James
sitting around the front of me,
495
00:22:54,750 --> 00:22:56,667
and there was hardly
nobody else in the theater,
496
00:22:56,667 --> 00:22:59,250
and he turned around and talked
to me most of the time.
497
00:22:59,250 --> 00:23:02,208
-He was having trouble
making hit records.
498
00:23:02,208 --> 00:23:03,708
When he got to that dry spell,
499
00:23:03,708 --> 00:23:05,875
and we were still spending
a lot of money recording,
500
00:23:05,875 --> 00:23:09,917
the record company decided
to cut back on his budgets.
501
00:23:09,917 --> 00:23:13,375
-He had, simultaneously
to all of this,
502
00:23:13,375 --> 00:23:18,833
developed some serious
IRS problems with back taxes
503
00:23:18,833 --> 00:23:21,250
that were accruing interest
and penalties
504
00:23:21,250 --> 00:23:24,000
and were well
into seven figures.
505
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,750
-This is all that's left
of the old WRDW radio studios,
506
00:23:27,750 --> 00:23:30,917
where Brown sat as a young boy
outside and shined shoes.
507
00:23:30,917 --> 00:23:32,833
When he became more famous
and wealthy,
508
00:23:32,833 --> 00:23:35,750
he bought the AM radio station,
only years later to have it,
509
00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:38,083
along with eight acres
of personal property,
510
00:23:38,083 --> 00:23:39,875
sold at a public auction.
511
00:23:39,875 --> 00:23:43,375
-Look, if you make $100,000
and spend $90,000
512
00:23:43,375 --> 00:23:45,208
in your business,
how you going to owe tax?
513
00:23:45,208 --> 00:23:46,667
After I get all
the tax shelters I can,
514
00:23:46,667 --> 00:23:48,458
all the deductions I can,
515
00:23:48,458 --> 00:23:49,625
because I'm putting
my money back in the business
516
00:23:49,625 --> 00:23:51,917
and back in people.
517
00:23:51,917 --> 00:23:56,417
-He hired some good
and some bad accountants.
518
00:23:56,417 --> 00:23:59,125
Went out on the road.
519
00:23:59,125 --> 00:24:01,708
Payment was always in cash.
520
00:24:01,708 --> 00:24:06,583
When you're handling cash, you
think all that money is yours.
521
00:24:06,583 --> 00:24:09,208
Even though it's cash,
you still have to take care
522
00:24:09,208 --> 00:24:11,000
of the government
and everyone else.
523
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,792
-The first time I ever had
a conversation
524
00:24:12,792 --> 00:24:16,458
with Eddie Murphy,
Eddie Murphy tells me the story
525
00:24:16,458 --> 00:24:19,417
that when he first met
James Brown,
526
00:24:19,417 --> 00:24:21,208
the first thing
that James Brown told him,
527
00:24:21,208 --> 00:24:24,125
he was like, "Yeah, I see you're
making a lot of money there."
528
00:24:24,125 --> 00:24:26,250
He said, "This is what you do --
get you a big,
529
00:24:26,250 --> 00:24:33,375
giant plot of land and then bury
about 5 to $10 million."
530
00:24:33,375 --> 00:24:35,542
[ Laughs ]
531
00:24:35,542 --> 00:24:36,958
And Eddie Murphy's
trying to figure out
532
00:24:36,958 --> 00:24:38,417
the logic behind this.
533
00:24:38,417 --> 00:24:39,708
He said, "What if I died?
534
00:24:39,708 --> 00:24:41,458
No one's going to be able
to find it."
535
00:24:41,458 --> 00:24:43,208
And James Brown's like,
that's right,
536
00:24:43,208 --> 00:24:44,792
and neither will the government.
537
00:24:44,792 --> 00:24:48,417
-♪ I'm paying taxes,
but what am I buying? ♪
538
00:24:48,417 --> 00:24:53,000
♪ A whole lot of government
muscle and everybody crying ♪
539
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,292
-His musical career
also suffered for seven years
540
00:24:56,292 --> 00:24:57,792
during the late '70s
and early '80s,
541
00:24:57,792 --> 00:24:59,875
when he failed to produce
any gold records,
542
00:24:59,875 --> 00:25:03,542
touring only rarely and butting
heads with IRS officials,
543
00:25:03,542 --> 00:25:07,542
who claim he owed
$2.82 million in back taxes.
544
00:25:07,542 --> 00:25:10,708
-Our superstar
black entertainers,
545
00:25:10,708 --> 00:25:14,250
they have a harder road
than most entertainers
546
00:25:14,250 --> 00:25:16,125
outside of the black experience.
547
00:25:16,125 --> 00:25:19,750
They go through a gauntlet of
things, learning about business,
548
00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:21,583
learning about their craft,
549
00:25:21,583 --> 00:25:25,750
learning about the people
around them as they go.
550
00:25:25,750 --> 00:25:27,792
-Today,
I can do a lot of things.
551
00:25:27,792 --> 00:25:30,833
Financial problems, I really
don't have them individually.
552
00:25:30,833 --> 00:25:33,875
But I'm in companies, a lot
of things I don't understand.
553
00:25:33,875 --> 00:25:35,583
And I'm still fighting
because I believe,
554
00:25:35,583 --> 00:25:38,500
because I trust,
because I went back to God,
555
00:25:38,500 --> 00:25:41,542
because I believe that there's
somebody who made that happen.
556
00:25:41,542 --> 00:25:43,250
I'm not gr-great enough
to make it happen.
557
00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:46,958
So I'm telling you, it can't
happen unless you believe.
558
00:25:46,958 --> 00:25:51,542
So America,
I say to you this way.
559
00:25:51,542 --> 00:25:56,042
If you fail me now,
then who can I turn to?
560
00:26:01,458 --> 00:26:02,708
-James Brown was
one of those people
561
00:26:02,708 --> 00:26:04,000
that you weren't
going to keep down.
562
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,083
No matter what happened
to him in life,
563
00:26:06,083 --> 00:26:11,792
he had that determination
to get up, try again.
564
00:26:11,792 --> 00:26:13,792
-Now, this is the new album.
Now tell me how this came about.
565
00:26:13,792 --> 00:26:16,042
You went to Japan?
-Well, I just finished doing
566
00:26:16,042 --> 00:26:18,875
"The Blues Brothers," right,
with John Belushi.
567
00:26:18,875 --> 00:26:20,917
-You highlighted that film.
-I love --
568
00:26:20,917 --> 00:26:22,875
-Come on, be honest now.
That was the highlight.
569
00:26:22,875 --> 00:26:25,417
-Praise God.
-All right, all right.
570
00:26:25,417 --> 00:26:28,333
Don't be lost
when the time comes.
571
00:26:28,333 --> 00:26:34,375
For the day of the Lord cometh
as a thief in the night.
572
00:26:34,375 --> 00:26:37,292
-When my father did the movie
"The Blues Brothers,"
573
00:26:37,292 --> 00:26:39,208
he was a natural.
574
00:26:39,208 --> 00:26:41,625
I mean, I can't say it
no simpler than that.
575
00:26:41,625 --> 00:26:46,625
He was a natural because
he did the role of a pastor,
576
00:26:46,625 --> 00:26:49,042
which was amazing
because he grew up
577
00:26:49,042 --> 00:26:51,500
and performed
in a lot of black churches.
578
00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:53,708
-It was just right up his alley,
579
00:26:53,708 --> 00:26:56,708
you know, it's just -- it was
the perfect fit for him,
580
00:26:56,708 --> 00:26:58,583
not just the film,
and the role,
581
00:26:58,583 --> 00:27:01,042
but just in
expressing himself.
582
00:27:01,042 --> 00:27:06,500
And very, very thankful
to Dan Aykroyd for believing
583
00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:09,917
that he could have a place
and understanding who he was,
584
00:27:09,917 --> 00:27:11,875
and, you know,
what that meant for the film
585
00:27:11,875 --> 00:27:15,375
and all of that stuff,
and just taking a chance on him.
586
00:27:15,375 --> 00:27:17,958
-His current national popularity
587
00:27:17,958 --> 00:27:20,333
came about mostly because
of his short appearance
588
00:27:20,333 --> 00:27:21,833
in "The Blues Brothers" movie.
589
00:27:21,833 --> 00:27:23,500
-I'm glad because
I'm broadening my scope,
590
00:27:23,500 --> 00:27:25,000
and this is good for me
591
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,542
because I'll be able
to talk to everybody
592
00:27:27,542 --> 00:27:30,667
and hopefully I can give
some sound advice.
593
00:27:30,667 --> 00:27:33,250
And thanks to John Belushi
and Dan Aykroyd,
594
00:27:33,250 --> 00:27:34,792
they did a lot for me.
595
00:27:34,792 --> 00:27:39,125
-Right now, if you're to ask
about James Brown,
596
00:27:39,125 --> 00:27:42,417
I would guarantee you that
there's a certain generation
597
00:27:42,417 --> 00:27:44,792
that holds him near and dear,
598
00:27:44,792 --> 00:27:47,583
their experience with him
being like the preacher
599
00:27:47,583 --> 00:27:49,167
in "The Blues Brothers."
600
00:27:49,167 --> 00:27:50,917
-In the 1980s,
601
00:27:50,917 --> 00:27:54,417
when I grew up, I didn't really
know James Brown's music.
602
00:27:54,417 --> 00:27:57,875
Like, I knew
James Brown primarily
603
00:27:57,875 --> 00:27:59,542
through Michael Jackson
and Prince,
604
00:27:59,542 --> 00:28:01,792
and they would often make
reference back to James Brown,
605
00:28:01,792 --> 00:28:03,875
or people would talk
about James Brown
606
00:28:03,875 --> 00:28:06,458
being the progenitor
of those two artists.
607
00:28:06,458 --> 00:28:08,500
I also knew him
through Eddie Murphy,
608
00:28:08,500 --> 00:28:11,500
because Eddie Murphy
would imitate him.
609
00:28:11,500 --> 00:28:15,750
-Ha, ha! I say, ha!
Look at that! Ha!
610
00:28:15,750 --> 00:28:18,583
-But the other way I knew him
was through "Rocky IV."
611
00:28:18,583 --> 00:28:21,875
♪
612
00:28:21,875 --> 00:28:23,917
-Sylvester Stallone
said to Brown,
613
00:28:23,917 --> 00:28:26,208
"I'm making 'Rocky IV.'
I want you to do a song."
614
00:28:26,208 --> 00:28:28,583
You're Sylvester Stallone,
Rocky. Who's bigger than you?
615
00:28:28,583 --> 00:28:31,542
That's James Brown,
that's a legend.
616
00:28:31,542 --> 00:28:34,042
-♪ Living in America
617
00:28:34,042 --> 00:28:35,375
Sing it.
618
00:28:35,375 --> 00:28:37,333
♪ Eye to eye
619
00:28:37,333 --> 00:28:39,333
♪ Station to station
620
00:28:39,333 --> 00:28:42,000
♪ Living in America
621
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,000
-The first time
I heard James Brown,
622
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,083
I must have been
maybe 7 or 8,
623
00:28:46,083 --> 00:28:49,583
and it was the song from
"Rocky," "Living in America."
624
00:28:49,583 --> 00:28:51,208
As immigrants to this country,
625
00:28:51,208 --> 00:28:54,458
you think about what does it
mean to live in America,
626
00:28:54,458 --> 00:28:55,875
even when you're a little kid.
627
00:28:55,875 --> 00:28:58,792
It almost became, like,
my theme song.
628
00:28:58,792 --> 00:29:02,417
-♪ I live in America
629
00:29:02,417 --> 00:29:05,833
♪
630
00:29:05,833 --> 00:29:07,708
♪ I feel good
631
00:29:07,708 --> 00:29:09,708
[ Cheers and applause ]
632
00:29:09,708 --> 00:29:12,875
-When "Living in America"
was released,
633
00:29:12,875 --> 00:29:15,042
it changed James Brown's career
at that point,
634
00:29:15,042 --> 00:29:18,375
because he hadn't had
a big record in quite some time.
635
00:29:18,375 --> 00:29:21,833
His money went up,
his popularity went up,
636
00:29:21,833 --> 00:29:24,583
and James Brown
was in heaven again.
637
00:29:24,583 --> 00:29:26,042
-Brown's financial reputation
638
00:29:26,042 --> 00:29:28,042
caused him
considerable embarrassment
639
00:29:28,042 --> 00:29:29,375
as a famous entertainer.
640
00:29:29,375 --> 00:29:31,375
His South Carolina home
was auctioned off
641
00:29:31,375 --> 00:29:34,750
on the Aiken County Courthouse
steps to help pay taxes.
642
00:29:34,750 --> 00:29:36,333
But now,
from "The Blues Brothers"
643
00:29:36,333 --> 00:29:37,917
to "Living in America,"
644
00:29:37,917 --> 00:29:41,042
the Godfather of Soul
is on the rise once again.
645
00:29:41,042 --> 00:29:45,417
-"Living in America" is one
of his last top ten songs,
646
00:29:45,417 --> 00:29:46,792
but it's such a fun song
647
00:29:46,792 --> 00:29:49,792
and it's almost like
The Village People.
648
00:29:49,792 --> 00:29:51,208
That's really
what it sounds like.
649
00:29:51,208 --> 00:29:52,792
It sounds like "YMCA"
or "Macho Man"
650
00:29:52,792 --> 00:29:54,833
or something like that,
but it just works.
651
00:29:54,833 --> 00:29:57,708
-♪ You're my only love
652
00:29:57,708 --> 00:30:06,625
♪ My only, only love
is you ♪
653
00:30:06,625 --> 00:30:08,042
♪ Oh, baby
654
00:30:08,042 --> 00:30:09,375
-I was there when they met.
655
00:30:09,375 --> 00:30:11,875
She was a makeup artist
at Solid Gold,
656
00:30:11,875 --> 00:30:13,875
and we were walking
to his dressing room
657
00:30:13,875 --> 00:30:16,708
and he saw her and he liked her.
He loved women.
658
00:30:16,708 --> 00:30:18,208
He said, "Reverend,
get her number."
659
00:30:18,208 --> 00:30:21,083
So I go, and anyway,
they end up going to dinner.
660
00:30:21,083 --> 00:30:22,833
I never thought he'd marry,
but they got married
661
00:30:22,833 --> 00:30:24,375
over a period of time.
662
00:30:24,375 --> 00:30:27,833
-Is it hard to be the wife
of such a big man,
663
00:30:27,833 --> 00:30:29,917
such a big star as James Brown?
664
00:30:29,917 --> 00:30:32,875
-It's hard to be a wife or
a husband to anyone today.
665
00:30:32,875 --> 00:30:35,875
You have to be good
in anything you do.
666
00:30:35,875 --> 00:30:38,250
I work at my marriage.
My husband works at his.
667
00:30:38,250 --> 00:30:40,292
-I don't want to bad-mouth
Adrienne,
668
00:30:40,292 --> 00:30:43,250
but things started to get crazy
about the time she came around.
669
00:30:43,250 --> 00:30:45,042
Once Adrienne came
in the picture,
670
00:30:45,042 --> 00:30:46,917
that was the beginning
of a different Mr. Brown.
671
00:30:51,833 --> 00:30:53,083
-Oh, it's got everything.
672
00:30:53,083 --> 00:30:54,292
This thing's everything
on wheels.
673
00:30:54,292 --> 00:30:55,750
And I got you a case
to carry it with.
674
00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:57,000
-You don't got the sticks,
have you?
675
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,417
-Yeah, sticks still with it,
too.
676
00:30:58,417 --> 00:31:00,167
-I'm very happy
that I found a man in my life
677
00:31:00,167 --> 00:31:04,292
that has the beliefs I do
and that has the energy I do.
678
00:31:04,292 --> 00:31:06,833
He has to slow me down
and I have to slow him down.
679
00:31:06,833 --> 00:31:08,042
It's good.
680
00:31:08,042 --> 00:31:11,125
-Adrienne, he loved her dearly.
681
00:31:11,125 --> 00:31:15,542
I mean, they fought,
but he loved her, he really did.
682
00:31:15,542 --> 00:31:22,208
-His last wife, Adrienne,
is the one that I knew best.
683
00:31:22,208 --> 00:31:24,292
She had a hard time
with James Brown.
684
00:31:24,292 --> 00:31:27,333
But then again,
I think most of the women
685
00:31:27,333 --> 00:31:31,375
in James Brown's life
had a hard time.
686
00:31:31,375 --> 00:31:33,958
I mean, he got into some drug
problems, I think, also.
687
00:31:33,958 --> 00:31:37,125
Um, didn't we all?
688
00:31:37,125 --> 00:31:40,792
-It seems like almost every
week, something was happening
689
00:31:40,792 --> 00:31:42,375
to put them in the news.
690
00:31:42,375 --> 00:31:45,083
I know she loved him,
but they got into those drugs
691
00:31:45,083 --> 00:31:47,958
and it would just turn them
into, uh,
692
00:31:47,958 --> 00:31:50,792
something that they really
shouldn't have been.
693
00:31:50,792 --> 00:31:53,375
-The Godfather of Soul says
he feels good.
694
00:31:53,375 --> 00:31:55,333
This morning,
he and his wife, Adrienne,
695
00:31:55,333 --> 00:31:57,917
emerged from a meeting with
Aiken County Solicitor Bob Hart
696
00:31:57,917 --> 00:32:00,625
to try and fix the marriage
that a few weeks ago
697
00:32:00,625 --> 00:32:02,417
seemed to be rapidly untying.
698
00:32:02,417 --> 00:32:04,667
Easter weekend,
his wife went to local police,
699
00:32:04,667 --> 00:32:07,250
claiming she had been
badly beaten by the entertainer,
700
00:32:07,250 --> 00:32:09,750
and said he also shot up
her luxury car
701
00:32:09,750 --> 00:32:11,542
and beat her with an iron pipe.
702
00:32:11,542 --> 00:32:14,625
She showed, in People Magazine,
the gun he used to shoot at her.
703
00:32:14,625 --> 00:32:17,375
A week later, she was arrested
at Augusta's Bush Field airport
704
00:32:17,375 --> 00:32:21,167
and charged with possession
of PCP, which is still pending.
705
00:32:21,167 --> 00:32:22,875
-What about the potassium bottle
706
00:32:22,875 --> 00:32:24,708
they say they got
out of your purse?
707
00:32:24,708 --> 00:32:26,167
-What?
-A potassium bottle
708
00:32:26,167 --> 00:32:28,875
with alleged PCP in it.
709
00:32:28,875 --> 00:32:30,708
-I have no idea.
710
00:32:30,708 --> 00:32:33,250
-He used to get high
on what he called "gorilla."
711
00:32:33,250 --> 00:32:35,375
"Gorilla" is a version of PCP.
712
00:32:35,375 --> 00:32:37,708
They keep the PCP
in a Visine bottle
713
00:32:37,708 --> 00:32:39,208
because you could
travel with it.
714
00:32:39,208 --> 00:32:40,958
They would drip it
on the cigarette,
715
00:32:40,958 --> 00:32:42,792
and when it dried,
you'd smoke a cigarette,
716
00:32:42,792 --> 00:32:44,083
and they'd get wacky.
717
00:32:44,083 --> 00:32:45,375
-But despite
all that's happened,
718
00:32:45,375 --> 00:32:47,375
today,
she appeared a changed woman.
719
00:32:47,375 --> 00:32:49,292
-You've decided
to drop the charges?
720
00:32:49,292 --> 00:32:51,375
-Yes, sir. I mean,
I really didn't want to --
721
00:32:51,375 --> 00:32:54,375
I mean, my intention
was never prosecuting.
722
00:32:54,375 --> 00:32:58,167
Unfortunately, this matter
had gotten out into public,
723
00:32:58,167 --> 00:32:59,875
and it was --
it was all a mistake.
724
00:32:59,875 --> 00:33:03,167
And, you know, my husband
and I love each other very much.
725
00:33:03,167 --> 00:33:05,208
-I knew a lot what was
going on with him
726
00:33:05,208 --> 00:33:08,417
at that time of his struggle
with drugs
727
00:33:08,417 --> 00:33:11,625
and where his place
was in society --
728
00:33:11,625 --> 00:33:13,333
you know, in the music business.
729
00:33:13,333 --> 00:33:15,375
It was a difficult time
because everybody
730
00:33:15,375 --> 00:33:18,125
wasn't necessarily listening
to the James Brown sound.
731
00:33:18,125 --> 00:33:19,708
They had moved on
to something else.
732
00:33:19,708 --> 00:33:22,792
And as an artist,
a lot of them go through that.
733
00:33:22,792 --> 00:33:26,458
So you see them in the slump
and picking up things
734
00:33:26,458 --> 00:33:29,292
that,
you know, for whatever reason.
735
00:33:29,292 --> 00:33:31,167
-How did all of this trouble
begin?
736
00:33:31,167 --> 00:33:34,542
-♪ Living in America
737
00:33:34,542 --> 00:33:36,458
[ Laughter ]
738
00:33:36,458 --> 00:33:38,833
There's nothing wrong.
-Nothing wrong at all?
739
00:33:38,833 --> 00:33:41,875
You're not in any difficulty,
but you're out on bond?
740
00:33:41,875 --> 00:33:44,083
-No, I'm not.
741
00:33:44,083 --> 00:33:45,875
-Have all the charges
been dropped?
742
00:33:45,875 --> 00:33:47,583
-Yeah. I'm out on love.
743
00:33:47,583 --> 00:33:52,542
-Oh, well, are you out on love
or out of love, which is it?
744
00:33:52,542 --> 00:33:54,125
-Out on love.
745
00:33:54,125 --> 00:33:57,667
♪ Alone from night to night,
you'll find me ♪
746
00:33:57,667 --> 00:34:01,667
-I already knew that he was
struggling just in life.
747
00:34:01,667 --> 00:34:05,583
And another thing I wish
I didn't see was the cheating.
748
00:34:05,583 --> 00:34:08,583
And I didn't see
that necessarily growing up,
749
00:34:08,583 --> 00:34:12,833
but I saw it
when he married his third wife.
750
00:34:12,833 --> 00:34:15,542
-Although she has formally
filed a request to drop charges,
751
00:34:15,542 --> 00:34:18,208
solicitor Hart says
he'll make the final decision.
752
00:34:18,208 --> 00:34:19,458
Until then, the couple says
753
00:34:19,458 --> 00:34:21,208
they'll spend
more time together.
754
00:34:21,208 --> 00:34:23,208
-We're here to clear the air,
clear the smoke,
755
00:34:23,208 --> 00:34:26,167
and let everybody know
that we're on the good foot.
756
00:34:26,167 --> 00:34:28,667
-♪ Give me some static
-♪ You got it
757
00:34:28,667 --> 00:34:30,375
-♪ Hit me
758
00:34:30,375 --> 00:34:33,375
♪
759
00:34:33,375 --> 00:34:36,458
♪ Huh
760
00:34:36,458 --> 00:34:38,000
♪ Say it
761
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,875
-At the time we was working with
Mr. Brown...
762
00:34:40,875 --> 00:34:42,833
-He was going through a lot.
-He was going through a lot.
763
00:34:42,833 --> 00:34:44,917
But we kind of
didn't know it.
764
00:34:44,917 --> 00:34:46,542
Something I never
spoke on before,
765
00:34:46,542 --> 00:34:48,042
but we didn't know.
766
00:34:48,042 --> 00:34:49,958
The first song he did
was "Time to Get Busy."
767
00:34:49,958 --> 00:34:52,542
It was great.
But the other songs,
768
00:34:52,542 --> 00:34:54,250
we had to go back and forth,
and I told my brother,
769
00:34:54,250 --> 00:34:56,625
I said, "I know Mr. Brown
keep forgetting.
770
00:34:56,625 --> 00:34:59,167
Like he wasn't even on on beat
at the time."
771
00:34:59,167 --> 00:35:01,875
-Because he was going through
a lot at that time --
772
00:35:01,875 --> 00:35:03,333
through the the painkillers
773
00:35:03,333 --> 00:35:05,083
and the different type
of addiction...
774
00:35:05,083 --> 00:35:06,375
- The shooting.
-...and all that stuff.
775
00:35:06,375 --> 00:35:07,750
The shooting,
all kinds of craziness.
776
00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:09,583
And we were like, I didn't --
777
00:35:09,583 --> 00:35:11,125
I didn't, I don't remember
major, major problems.
778
00:35:11,125 --> 00:35:12,958
-Like you having to sing some
of his parts.
779
00:35:12,958 --> 00:35:14,375
-Right.
-On the record. Okay.
780
00:35:14,375 --> 00:35:15,958
-I solved the problem.
You wouldn't even know.
781
00:35:15,958 --> 00:35:18,083
It's all good.
-And it's on "Static."
782
00:35:18,083 --> 00:35:19,542
-Me and Mr. Brown.
-Right.
783
00:35:19,542 --> 00:35:22,292
-♪ Won't be no static
-♪ No
784
00:35:22,292 --> 00:35:25,375
♪ Don't start none,
won't be none ♪
785
00:35:25,375 --> 00:35:28,333
-I'm on the air, and I get
the news that Mr. Brown
786
00:35:28,333 --> 00:35:32,000
was in a two-state car
chase in Georgia
787
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,375
and in South Carolina.
788
00:35:34,375 --> 00:35:36,333
It's like, what is going on?
789
00:35:36,333 --> 00:35:38,375
- Witnesses say Brown went into
a classroom
790
00:35:38,375 --> 00:35:40,875
in the office building where
his office is located,
791
00:35:40,875 --> 00:35:42,542
brandishing a pistol
and a shotgun
792
00:35:42,542 --> 00:35:45,542
and demanding to know
who was using his bathroom.
793
00:35:45,542 --> 00:35:49,708
-Someone was using
my facility without my consent.
794
00:35:49,708 --> 00:35:53,292
All you have to do is ask me,
and I'll be glad to say yes.
795
00:35:53,292 --> 00:35:55,042
-He did get his shotgun
out of the pickup,
796
00:35:55,042 --> 00:35:57,042
but he did not fire it.
797
00:35:57,042 --> 00:35:58,708
So James got in his pickup.
798
00:35:58,708 --> 00:36:03,875
He went across on the interstate
to the South Carolina side.
799
00:36:03,875 --> 00:36:06,125
-I said, Mr. Brown,
pull over, this is Officer Dan.
800
00:36:06,125 --> 00:36:08,542
And he immediately pulled
over into the slot.
801
00:36:08,542 --> 00:36:10,208
-I ask the officer,
"Should I get out?"
802
00:36:10,208 --> 00:36:12,458
He said, "No, get out
on the passenger side.
803
00:36:12,458 --> 00:36:15,042
The man shot eight times
at the wheel
804
00:36:15,042 --> 00:36:16,042
at the bottom of the truck.
805
00:36:16,042 --> 00:36:19,125
-[ James Brown scatting ]
806
00:36:19,125 --> 00:36:22,875
♪
807
00:36:22,875 --> 00:36:26,458
-17 bullets hit the truck.
808
00:36:26,458 --> 00:36:30,583
Had only one bullet
hit the gas tank,
809
00:36:30,583 --> 00:36:32,208
the truck would have blew up.
810
00:36:32,208 --> 00:36:35,208
-James Brown's pickup,
his tires are shot off.
811
00:36:35,208 --> 00:36:38,500
He's on rims, and he --
and he's got, like,
812
00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:42,708
14 police cars behind him
with their lights going.
813
00:36:42,708 --> 00:36:45,958
They're doing, what, five,
ten miles an hour?
814
00:36:45,958 --> 00:36:47,542
And this is the chase?
815
00:36:47,542 --> 00:36:50,208
-I don't condone people
running from the police
816
00:36:50,208 --> 00:36:53,208
like that,
but also too, he says,
817
00:36:53,208 --> 00:36:55,750
"I was scared,"
818
00:36:55,750 --> 00:36:58,333
and that's what
a lot of black men deal with.
819
00:36:58,333 --> 00:37:01,458
They're scared of what's going
to happen to them.
820
00:37:01,458 --> 00:37:05,250
They're scared if they're
going to be the next hashtag.
821
00:37:05,250 --> 00:37:08,083
-Mind you, I didn't say
my father was perfect,
822
00:37:08,083 --> 00:37:12,458
but nobody deserves
to be shot at like that.
823
00:37:12,458 --> 00:37:17,333
We still have the panels
with the 17 bullet holes.
824
00:37:17,333 --> 00:37:19,500
He didn't want to throw it away.
He wanted to keep it,
825
00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:29,458
to remind himself
of what that was about.
826
00:37:30,625 --> 00:37:32,167
-The night that it happened,
the high speed chase,
827
00:37:32,167 --> 00:37:33,625
his wife called me.
"They arrested James.
828
00:37:33,625 --> 00:37:34,542
This, that and the other."
Told me what happened.
829
00:37:34,542 --> 00:37:36,750
I turned on the CNN and I --
830
00:37:36,750 --> 00:37:39,208
you know, he had had then
several altercations.
831
00:37:39,208 --> 00:37:43,458
And I said, we just got
to get him to calm down.
832
00:37:43,458 --> 00:37:44,875
-I'm not here for it.
I'm tired of this mess.
833
00:37:44,875 --> 00:37:46,417
I'm tired of it.
834
00:37:46,417 --> 00:37:48,750
The man's about to have
a reckoning.
835
00:37:48,750 --> 00:37:51,208
I'm tired of
the federal government, tired!
836
00:37:51,208 --> 00:37:53,875
I'm tired of them!
837
00:37:53,875 --> 00:37:56,000
I'm tired of doing right!
838
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,333
[ Shouting indistinctly ]
839
00:38:01,708 --> 00:38:04,083
-A function of being black
in America
840
00:38:04,083 --> 00:38:08,042
is that I don't think we take
the best care of ourselves.
841
00:38:08,042 --> 00:38:11,583
Oftentimes,
we're trying to live.
842
00:38:11,583 --> 00:38:14,167
So we're concerned
with the basics
843
00:38:14,167 --> 00:38:16,042
of living and survival.
844
00:38:16,042 --> 00:38:21,083
Because to be black in America
is to have, you know,
845
00:38:21,083 --> 00:38:25,042
affiliation and attachment
to pathologies and to trauma.
846
00:38:25,042 --> 00:38:28,083
-I don't think James Brown
wanted everybody to know him.
847
00:38:28,083 --> 00:38:32,125
I think James Brown kept
a part of him that only he knew.
848
00:38:32,125 --> 00:38:37,000
And I think a lot of that was
that he had to protect himself.
849
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:42,583
Of course, he was abandoned as
a child and he grew up in jail.
850
00:38:42,583 --> 00:38:44,417
-Brown just finished
three months,
851
00:38:44,417 --> 00:38:47,458
42 grueling dates in Europe,
lifting his career there,
852
00:38:47,458 --> 00:38:50,167
and taped a new cable TV special
for the U.S..
853
00:38:50,167 --> 00:38:51,500
But meanwhile, prosecutors
854
00:38:51,500 --> 00:38:53,167
in Augusta
and Aiken, South Carolina,
855
00:38:53,167 --> 00:38:55,208
have been quietly
gathering indictments,
856
00:38:55,208 --> 00:38:56,917
tying together evidence
of multiple cases
857
00:38:56,917 --> 00:38:59,708
of what they say is a whole
different side of James Brown.
858
00:38:59,708 --> 00:39:02,292
From an alleged drug, gun,
and police chase incident
859
00:39:02,292 --> 00:39:03,667
over two days in September,
860
00:39:03,667 --> 00:39:05,958
Brown faces close
to a dozen charges.
861
00:39:05,958 --> 00:39:08,958
Police allege Brown tried
to run them down in his truck.
862
00:39:08,958 --> 00:39:11,708
Now, authorities say they want
to throw the book at James Brown
863
00:39:11,708 --> 00:39:13,542
and claim to have
evidence enough
864
00:39:13,542 --> 00:39:15,583
to put him in jail
for five years.
865
00:39:15,583 --> 00:39:17,083
-I was in high school.
866
00:39:17,083 --> 00:39:19,208
I was a junior.
I won't forget it.
867
00:39:19,208 --> 00:39:23,500
And I'm thinking to myself, he's
about to lose everything he has.
868
00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:24,958
Am I going to be able
to go to college?
869
00:39:24,958 --> 00:39:26,875
He said he would
help me with college.
870
00:39:26,875 --> 00:39:28,417
Is this going to be it?
871
00:39:28,417 --> 00:39:31,417
Like, all of this stuff
is going on in my head,
872
00:39:31,417 --> 00:39:32,792
and then you got people
not being nice.
873
00:39:32,792 --> 00:39:34,792
They're yelling,
"Free James Brown."
874
00:39:34,792 --> 00:39:36,625
There's the, "Oh, your daddy
locked up.
875
00:39:36,625 --> 00:39:38,625
What's your daddy --
He doing all this crazy stuff.
876
00:39:38,625 --> 00:39:41,708
What's going on with him?"
All of that.
877
00:39:41,708 --> 00:39:44,875
-People who themselves
are not totally free
878
00:39:44,875 --> 00:39:48,292
through art open up the door
for others to be free,
879
00:39:48,292 --> 00:39:50,500
even if they can't
exorcise the demons
880
00:39:50,500 --> 00:39:52,042
that they have themselves.
881
00:39:52,042 --> 00:39:54,500
-He's facing charges
of assault with intent to kill
882
00:39:54,500 --> 00:39:56,875
and failing to stop for police.
883
00:39:56,875 --> 00:39:59,917
Early in the day, defense
attorneys filed several motions.
884
00:39:59,917 --> 00:40:02,917
Included is a request to move
the case to another county,
885
00:40:02,917 --> 00:40:05,833
namely to disqualify
the pool of potential jurors
886
00:40:05,833 --> 00:40:09,042
because it contains
a small number of blacks.
887
00:40:09,042 --> 00:40:12,583
[ Indistinct conversations ]
888
00:40:12,583 --> 00:40:16,792
-Four white policemen came up
and shot the truck up
889
00:40:16,792 --> 00:40:18,875
and almost shot
the black deputy sheriff.
890
00:40:18,875 --> 00:40:21,292
The deputy sheriff was afraid
to testify against them.
891
00:40:21,292 --> 00:40:22,583
I wasn't afraid of them.
892
00:40:22,583 --> 00:40:25,042
-It's just 6-12.
-It's cold out here.
893
00:40:25,042 --> 00:40:26,750
-Thank you very, very much.
-Thank you, James.
894
00:40:26,750 --> 00:40:29,542
How are you doing today?
-I'm doing good.
895
00:40:29,542 --> 00:40:31,917
-When they went to trial,
896
00:40:31,917 --> 00:40:34,833
everybody thought they'd
give him probation or something.
897
00:40:34,833 --> 00:40:36,458
-There was talk in
the courthouse tonight
898
00:40:36,458 --> 00:40:38,500
about James Brown,
philanthropist,
899
00:40:38,500 --> 00:40:41,333
James Brown, legend.
I hold here in my hand
900
00:40:41,333 --> 00:40:43,542
a presidential pin
from President Reagan
901
00:40:43,542 --> 00:40:45,292
James Brown himself set.
902
00:40:45,292 --> 00:40:47,292
But tonight,
James Brown was sentenced
903
00:40:47,292 --> 00:40:48,875
to six years in prison,
904
00:40:48,875 --> 00:40:51,083
plus five years probation
and $6,000 fine.
905
00:40:51,083 --> 00:40:53,875
Earlier, a jury found him
guilty of failing to stop
906
00:40:53,875 --> 00:40:55,917
when signaled
by a law enforcement officer
907
00:40:55,917 --> 00:40:58,208
and two counts
of aggravated assault.
908
00:40:58,208 --> 00:40:59,875
-A six year
and six month sentence
909
00:40:59,875 --> 00:41:07,458
for a traffic violation
is extremely excessive.
910
00:41:07,458 --> 00:41:11,042
And if that were
Jerry Lee Lewis
911
00:41:11,042 --> 00:41:16,375
or Roy Orbison or Willie Nelson
or whoever --
912
00:41:16,375 --> 00:41:18,875
I mean, I definitely know
country people
913
00:41:18,875 --> 00:41:21,750
that have gotten into
shootouts and worse
914
00:41:21,750 --> 00:41:24,250
that didn't get
that type of treatment.
915
00:41:24,250 --> 00:41:29,125
-If James Brown was not who
he was,
916
00:41:29,125 --> 00:41:32,083
was not of the race he is,
there's no question
917
00:41:32,083 --> 00:41:36,667
that he would not have been
given this sentence.
918
00:41:36,667 --> 00:41:40,542
-I'm doing the time
and somebody else did the crime.
919
00:41:40,542 --> 00:41:42,750
-James Brown learned
and was reminded
920
00:41:42,750 --> 00:41:45,125
that there are two Americas,
921
00:41:45,125 --> 00:41:49,958
and he learned which America
he lived in that day.
922
00:41:49,958 --> 00:41:51,792
♪
923
00:41:51,792 --> 00:41:57,542
-♪ A man have to go back
to the crossroad ♪
924
00:41:57,542 --> 00:42:01,208
♪ Before he find his self
925
00:42:01,208 --> 00:42:03,875
♪ Sometimes, it's tough
926
00:42:03,875 --> 00:42:13,875
♪
927
00:42:13,875 --> 00:42:23,792
♪
928
00:42:23,792 --> 00:42:33,750
♪
929
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:38,350
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