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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,633 --> 00:00:15,567 [foreboding music] 2 00:00:23,506 --> 00:00:27,337 - [911 Dispatcher] 911, what's your emergency? 3 00:00:27,372 --> 00:00:29,857 - [Woman] We need someone here immediately. 4 00:00:29,891 --> 00:00:31,893 There are people, there are a lot of people 5 00:00:31,928 --> 00:00:33,309 trying to get into my house. 6 00:00:36,001 --> 00:00:38,141 - [911 Dispatcher] Okay, how many people, ma'am? 7 00:00:38,176 --> 00:00:39,384 - [Woman] I don't know. 8 00:00:39,418 --> 00:00:40,833 I don't know how many people, they're just... 9 00:00:40,868 --> 00:00:42,352 I don't know. 10 00:00:42,387 --> 00:00:44,872 - [911 Dispatcher] Yeah, are they inside the house, ma'am? 11 00:00:44,906 --> 00:00:46,598 - [Woman] No, we have people inside the house. 12 00:00:46,632 --> 00:00:47,461 There's about five of us. 13 00:00:47,495 --> 00:00:49,014 You guys, where's Sean? 14 00:00:49,049 --> 00:00:50,188 Where is Sean? 15 00:00:52,431 --> 00:00:53,743 We need someone here. 16 00:00:53,777 --> 00:00:56,366 - [911 Dispatcher] Okay, ma'am, I uh... 17 00:00:56,401 --> 00:00:57,609 Give me your address, ma'am. 18 00:00:57,643 --> 00:00:58,679 - [Woman] We're at [beeps]. 19 00:01:00,405 --> 00:01:01,647 - [911 Dispatcher] Okay, ma'am. 20 00:01:01,682 --> 00:01:02,855 I need you to stay on the line with me. 21 00:01:02,890 --> 00:01:04,374 I need you to tell me 22 00:01:04,409 --> 00:01:05,789 what's going on. - You guys, where is Sean? 23 00:01:07,377 --> 00:01:08,482 - [Man] I've been looking outside. 24 00:01:09,414 --> 00:01:11,278 I don't know. I don't know. 25 00:01:11,312 --> 00:01:12,555 I don't know. 26 00:01:12,589 --> 00:01:13,832 - [Woman] What do you mean, you don't know? 27 00:01:13,866 --> 00:01:15,489 - [Man] Because we haven't seen him. 28 00:01:15,523 --> 00:01:17,249 We thought he might have been outside. 29 00:01:17,284 --> 00:01:19,907 I can't see, but- - There are people outside. 30 00:01:19,941 --> 00:01:21,460 - [Man] Brett, have you seen anything? 31 00:01:21,495 --> 00:01:22,703 - [Brett] No, I haven't. 32 00:01:22,737 --> 00:01:25,223 - [Man] Well, let's just get the doors locked. 33 00:01:25,257 --> 00:01:26,465 - [911 Dispatcher] Ma'am, 34 00:01:26,500 --> 00:01:27,397 I need you to stay on the line with me. 35 00:01:27,432 --> 00:01:28,743 Can you tell me what's going on? 36 00:01:28,778 --> 00:01:29,572 - [Woman] It's okay. 37 00:01:29,606 --> 00:01:31,021 I don't know. 38 00:01:31,056 --> 00:01:32,230 When I look out the window, there's just lights. 39 00:01:32,264 --> 00:01:33,507 There's lights. 40 00:01:35,923 --> 00:01:38,581 [pensive music] 41 00:01:55,287 --> 00:01:56,288 - It's picturesque, 42 00:01:57,496 --> 00:01:59,809 a cozy farmhouse nestled in the Golden Plains 43 00:01:59,843 --> 00:02:02,915 of America's heartland, surrounded by rich soil 44 00:02:02,950 --> 00:02:05,849 and the relaxing solitude of country living. 45 00:02:05,884 --> 00:02:08,197 It's the perfect place to escape your troubles 46 00:02:08,231 --> 00:02:09,888 and the trappings of a busy life. 47 00:02:10,923 --> 00:02:12,339 Perfect. 48 00:02:12,373 --> 00:02:14,203 Unless your troubles can descend on you 49 00:02:14,237 --> 00:02:16,481 at any time from any place. 50 00:02:16,515 --> 00:02:19,587 [foreboding music] 51 00:02:19,622 --> 00:02:24,592 In July of 2013, Sean Miller disappeared for four days. 52 00:02:26,111 --> 00:02:27,630 A four day manhunt ensued that ended in a phone call 53 00:02:27,664 --> 00:02:29,563 from over 100 miles away 54 00:02:29,597 --> 00:02:33,774 and a story that would follow the couple from home to home. 55 00:02:33,808 --> 00:02:35,293 Seven years later, the Millers, 56 00:02:35,327 --> 00:02:37,087 along with documentary film crew 57 00:02:37,122 --> 00:02:40,401 consisting of filmmaker Ash Hamilton and his wife Chanell 58 00:02:40,436 --> 00:02:41,885 and cameraman Brett Pearson 59 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:43,887 would revisit that fateful event, 60 00:02:43,922 --> 00:02:45,855 culminating in a 911 call 61 00:02:45,889 --> 00:02:48,168 that would baffle anyone who came near it. 62 00:02:50,998 --> 00:02:53,138 Hi. It's been a pleasure to meet you. 63 00:02:53,173 --> 00:02:55,105 Let's just get started with some basics. 64 00:02:55,140 --> 00:02:59,040 Why don't you give me your name, your age, occupation. 65 00:02:59,075 --> 00:03:00,870 - My name is Ash Hamilton. 66 00:03:00,904 --> 00:03:05,012 I am 45 years old and I am a filmmaker. 67 00:03:05,046 --> 00:03:06,841 And when I'm not making films, 68 00:03:06,876 --> 00:03:08,912 I also teach film on the college level, 69 00:03:08,947 --> 00:03:10,983 film theory and film production. 70 00:03:11,018 --> 00:03:14,539 But I'm probably best known for my work in the horror genre, 71 00:03:15,436 --> 00:03:17,300 serving as a producer on films 72 00:03:17,335 --> 00:03:20,027 like "Camp Death III in 2D!". 73 00:03:20,061 --> 00:03:21,166 - [Announcer] They've been prescribed 74 00:03:21,201 --> 00:03:23,133 two heaping spoonfuls of death. 75 00:03:24,204 --> 00:03:26,206 "Camp Death III in 2D!" 76 00:03:28,691 --> 00:03:30,831 - [Ash] A film based off of my board game property 77 00:03:30,865 --> 00:03:32,384 called "Slice and Dice." 78 00:03:34,248 --> 00:03:37,562 [eerie music] 79 00:03:37,596 --> 00:03:39,460 - I'm gonna slice you to pieces. 80 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,189 [woman grunts] 81 00:03:46,536 --> 00:03:49,608 - [Ash] And also directing the award winning short film, 82 00:03:49,643 --> 00:03:50,437 "Play With Me." 83 00:03:54,199 --> 00:03:56,063 - [Woman] What? [foreboding music] 84 00:03:56,097 --> 00:03:59,515 [man chuckling wickedly] 85 00:04:04,761 --> 00:04:07,833 - So, tell me how you became involved 86 00:04:07,868 --> 00:04:09,870 in this particular story. 87 00:04:09,904 --> 00:04:11,768 How do you know Stacy and Sean? 88 00:04:11,803 --> 00:04:13,149 What brought you to this? 89 00:04:14,564 --> 00:04:18,396 - I had originally heard about the incident with Sean 90 00:04:19,949 --> 00:04:23,124 when it actually happened in 2013. 91 00:04:23,159 --> 00:04:25,506 I've always been interested in these subjects, 92 00:04:25,541 --> 00:04:29,614 so I was on various different news sites, different forums, 93 00:04:29,648 --> 00:04:33,134 and this was of particular interest when it came about 94 00:04:33,169 --> 00:04:36,241 because I didn't know how local it was, 95 00:04:36,276 --> 00:04:38,450 but I knew that it was regional. 96 00:04:38,485 --> 00:04:41,142 I was pretty sure that it was in the Illinois area, 97 00:04:41,177 --> 00:04:43,938 so I had a little more interest in it 98 00:04:43,973 --> 00:04:46,078 than some of the other stories. 99 00:04:46,113 --> 00:04:48,909 And plus, it was, I mean, in all honesty, 100 00:04:48,943 --> 00:04:50,048 it was it was a little more fantastic 101 00:04:50,082 --> 00:04:51,498 than some of the other stories. 102 00:04:51,532 --> 00:04:54,535 This wasn't your typical lights in the sky kind of thing. 103 00:04:54,570 --> 00:04:57,400 You know, this was an actual disappearance 104 00:04:57,435 --> 00:04:58,643 and it was something 105 00:04:58,677 --> 00:05:01,508 where they had local law enforcement involved. 106 00:05:01,542 --> 00:05:02,336 It was... 107 00:05:03,786 --> 00:05:07,203 I'll reiterate, it was definitely more fantastic 108 00:05:07,237 --> 00:05:08,998 than some of the other stories at the time 109 00:05:09,032 --> 00:05:10,413 that I was taking a look at. 110 00:05:11,449 --> 00:05:14,072 [pensive music] 111 00:05:22,529 --> 00:05:24,945 - [Chanell] Okay. So is this the one you wanted? 112 00:05:24,979 --> 00:05:26,395 - [Ash] Yes. 113 00:05:26,429 --> 00:05:30,260 - [Chanell] Okay. Do you wan't me to get a tripod or... 114 00:05:30,295 --> 00:05:32,332 - No, I think we can just do the hand-held thing. 115 00:05:32,366 --> 00:05:34,851 I mean, this is really sort of for us anyway, 116 00:05:34,886 --> 00:05:36,163 so we don't need to be. 117 00:05:36,197 --> 00:05:37,716 - Can I sit down for this? - Yeah, no. 118 00:05:37,751 --> 00:05:39,166 You can go ahead and sit down. That's fine. 119 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,652 You know, like any good story that has its own twists, 120 00:05:42,687 --> 00:05:44,344 goddammit I'm gonna go ahead and start that again. 121 00:05:44,378 --> 00:05:45,552 Sorry about that. 122 00:05:45,586 --> 00:05:47,450 [beep] 123 00:05:48,900 --> 00:05:51,834 So like any good story, there are twists and turns. 124 00:05:51,868 --> 00:05:53,456 We'll get to that in a minute. 125 00:05:53,491 --> 00:05:57,667 Sean Miller incident happened in 2013. 126 00:05:57,702 --> 00:06:00,187 Sean Miller, who was a Illinois native, 127 00:06:00,221 --> 00:06:03,052 which is sort of why I was drawn to the story 128 00:06:03,086 --> 00:06:05,606 when it originally took place in 2013, 129 00:06:07,056 --> 00:06:11,025 disappeared for four days, and when he came back, 130 00:06:11,060 --> 00:06:15,961 there were tall tales of abduction 131 00:06:17,066 --> 00:06:18,723 from a non-terrestrial intelligence. 132 00:06:20,276 --> 00:06:22,105 He was displaced. 133 00:06:22,140 --> 00:06:23,590 The phone call came. 134 00:06:23,624 --> 00:06:26,524 Similar to the Travis Walton story, miles away. 135 00:06:26,558 --> 00:06:30,631 In this particular instance, over 100 miles away, 136 00:06:30,666 --> 00:06:32,771 when he finally came back. 137 00:06:32,806 --> 00:06:36,534 So there were reports of phenomena happening 138 00:06:36,568 --> 00:06:38,156 previous to this. 139 00:06:38,190 --> 00:06:42,263 So I remember hearing about it in 2013. 140 00:06:42,298 --> 00:06:43,955 We're seeing some Associated Press articles 141 00:06:43,989 --> 00:06:47,234 and it got a hold of it and ran in a few different places. 142 00:06:47,268 --> 00:06:49,478 And, you know, we thought, 143 00:06:49,512 --> 00:06:53,999 man, is there a better story for a documentary, 144 00:06:54,034 --> 00:06:56,036 especially considering what we're into? 145 00:06:57,693 --> 00:07:02,042 And then we started to try to make the documentary. 146 00:07:02,076 --> 00:07:03,837 And lo and behold, 147 00:07:05,355 --> 00:07:10,326 we can't find anything on the Sean Miller story. 148 00:07:23,857 --> 00:07:26,998 [Ash clearing throat] 149 00:07:29,621 --> 00:07:32,106 So. It's late. 150 00:07:33,522 --> 00:07:34,661 It is, my god! 151 00:07:37,008 --> 00:07:41,322 It's 2:56 in the morning and there's a Reddit thread 152 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,775 that I've been posting in intermittently 153 00:07:45,810 --> 00:07:47,328 for the last few months. 154 00:07:47,363 --> 00:07:52,333 But tonight it was different because someone DM'd me 155 00:07:53,749 --> 00:07:58,098 and they had a screenshot of one of the articles 156 00:08:00,514 --> 00:08:04,449 and this has been probably the biggest news 157 00:08:04,484 --> 00:08:07,003 on that front in a while. 158 00:08:07,038 --> 00:08:09,489 So I was pretty excited 159 00:08:11,801 --> 00:08:15,564 and I'm looking it over and it looks pretty legit 160 00:08:15,598 --> 00:08:18,705 and not like 5 minutes later 161 00:08:18,739 --> 00:08:20,879 I get another DM from the same guy 162 00:08:22,674 --> 00:08:25,815 and he's telling me that not only 163 00:08:28,542 --> 00:08:32,235 does he live like around the same town 164 00:08:32,270 --> 00:08:34,030 that Sean Miller currently lives in, 165 00:08:34,065 --> 00:08:37,171 like not the residence from seven years ago 166 00:08:37,206 --> 00:08:38,656 or four years ago, 167 00:08:40,692 --> 00:08:42,004 but we're talking right now 168 00:08:44,834 --> 00:08:46,974 and he follows all this up 169 00:08:48,769 --> 00:08:53,360 with the fact that he says that he's got his email address. 170 00:09:05,614 --> 00:09:10,584 Okay, so it's now been about a month 171 00:09:11,758 --> 00:09:14,692 since I had received what I was told 172 00:09:14,726 --> 00:09:17,487 was Sean Miller's email address. 173 00:09:17,522 --> 00:09:21,008 About 8 minutes ago I receive a notification 174 00:09:22,803 --> 00:09:27,774 for a return email from Sean Miller's email address. 175 00:09:30,052 --> 00:09:30,880 Okay. 176 00:09:32,502 --> 00:09:35,126 "I hope you don't take this the wrong way, 177 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,130 but I've been burned on this before, multiple times, 178 00:09:39,164 --> 00:09:40,890 so I'm more than a little cautious. 179 00:09:42,340 --> 00:09:45,585 We are finally at a point where we don't get..." 180 00:09:48,346 --> 00:09:49,589 I guess it's supposed to say "we're finally at a point 181 00:09:49,623 --> 00:09:54,594 where we don't get a lot of these emails anymore, 182 00:09:55,836 --> 00:09:56,906 and it's taken us years to get here. 183 00:09:58,114 --> 00:10:00,772 Please, you need to respect our privacy." 184 00:10:03,430 --> 00:10:04,258 Now. Wait. 185 00:10:05,466 --> 00:10:06,606 Okay. 186 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,987 "If I give you 5 minutes and I say no. 187 00:10:09,022 --> 00:10:10,886 Well, then that's my final no." 188 00:10:13,613 --> 00:10:16,581 So. Yeah, 5 minutes. 189 00:10:18,134 --> 00:10:20,343 I'm usually up til midnight. 190 00:10:21,690 --> 00:10:24,002 Holy shit. And there's actually a phone number here. 191 00:10:25,555 --> 00:10:26,591 Here goes. 192 00:10:26,626 --> 00:10:29,456 [expectant music] 193 00:10:34,081 --> 00:10:36,739 [phone ringing] 194 00:10:55,033 --> 00:10:57,104 So how are you going to feel about being away 195 00:10:57,139 --> 00:10:58,416 from our home for a week? 196 00:11:02,765 --> 00:11:04,353 - Well, you know? 197 00:11:05,526 --> 00:11:06,873 I'll miss the cats. 198 00:11:09,392 --> 00:11:10,704 They won't miss me. 199 00:11:13,086 --> 00:11:18,056 And if it were to Disney, 200 00:11:19,506 --> 00:11:21,094 that would be super exciting because it's a vacation. 201 00:11:22,371 --> 00:11:23,475 But it's not. 202 00:11:23,510 --> 00:11:25,857 It's to a stranger's house. 203 00:11:25,892 --> 00:11:26,686 So. 204 00:11:28,308 --> 00:11:30,759 I'm a little bit, little bit apprehensive, but... 205 00:11:37,489 --> 00:11:40,044 [man laughing] 206 00:11:45,566 --> 00:11:46,913 - [Ash] I could get a shoulder under there. 207 00:11:46,947 --> 00:11:47,741 That's about it. 208 00:11:49,087 --> 00:11:51,296 That's about all I could get. 209 00:11:51,331 --> 00:11:53,022 - You know I could probably get under there, 210 00:11:53,057 --> 00:11:54,610 but that would not be that comfortable. 211 00:11:54,644 --> 00:11:56,129 I'd probably get a terrible leg cramp in the hamstring. 212 00:11:56,163 --> 00:11:59,926 - I could take a nap, but I'd wake up with my neck 213 00:11:59,960 --> 00:12:01,928 all screwed up and... 214 00:12:03,584 --> 00:12:06,139 - [Ash] I am positive that I could contort myself 215 00:12:06,173 --> 00:12:08,175 into position that one testicle 216 00:12:08,210 --> 00:12:10,868 would pop out and shoot across the room. 217 00:12:10,902 --> 00:12:12,145 - Probably. 218 00:12:12,179 --> 00:12:13,629 - [Ash] That's what would happen to me. 219 00:12:13,663 --> 00:12:15,044 - Just let me know first and I'll turn on the camera. 220 00:12:15,079 --> 00:12:17,115 - [Ash] It would be, it would be, 221 00:12:17,150 --> 00:12:19,497 well, it's free special effects, 222 00:12:19,531 --> 00:12:21,637 which I do love free, as anyone will know. 223 00:12:21,671 --> 00:12:24,122 - Are you just aiming at me because you can see my cleavage? 224 00:12:24,157 --> 00:12:25,883 - [Ash] That's exactly what I'm doing. 225 00:12:27,022 --> 00:12:27,816 Actually. 226 00:12:29,921 --> 00:12:33,511 So if you could give me your full name, 227 00:12:33,545 --> 00:12:38,516 your age and what your affiliation is with the documentary 228 00:12:39,620 --> 00:12:41,519 and the filmmakers behind it. 229 00:12:41,553 --> 00:12:42,762 - Okay. 230 00:12:42,796 --> 00:12:44,833 My name is Brett Pearson. 231 00:12:44,867 --> 00:12:49,838 I'm 38 years old, and my association to the filmmakers, 232 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,946 Ash and Chanell are good friends of mine. 233 00:12:54,981 --> 00:12:56,499 I've known 'em for several years 234 00:12:56,534 --> 00:13:00,503 and we've kind of go back a long way. 235 00:13:00,538 --> 00:13:05,474 I've been working for them on and off, 236 00:13:07,856 --> 00:13:10,168 like I said, several years. 237 00:13:10,203 --> 00:13:11,307 This is kind of my foundation. 238 00:13:11,342 --> 00:13:13,206 This is where I got my feet wet 239 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:17,382 with doing documentary type camera work. 240 00:13:17,417 --> 00:13:18,314 It's mostly what I do for them, 241 00:13:18,349 --> 00:13:20,558 but I've done some mic work, 242 00:13:20,592 --> 00:13:24,458 some audio editing, pretty much whatever I'm asked. 243 00:13:25,666 --> 00:13:30,430 So I got called in to do this documentary to... 244 00:13:33,951 --> 00:13:34,917 The Millers. 245 00:13:36,470 --> 00:13:38,438 Things were experienced at the residence 246 00:13:40,302 --> 00:13:41,855 and dropped what I was doing, 247 00:13:41,890 --> 00:13:44,582 which wasn't much of anything and came to help out. 248 00:13:48,828 --> 00:13:51,347 - [Ash] Take a brief tour here in the Horror Fix offices 249 00:13:51,382 --> 00:13:52,832 before we leave. 250 00:13:52,866 --> 00:13:57,181 See what our man in the field, our DP Brett is doing. 251 00:13:58,527 --> 00:13:59,977 - Packing shit for the trip. 252 00:14:00,011 --> 00:14:04,982 So I got the tripods, lighting, batteries, 253 00:14:08,088 --> 00:14:10,194 extra batteries for when those don't wanna work. 254 00:14:10,228 --> 00:14:12,817 - [Ash] You mean, like, every fucking time? [chuckles] 255 00:14:12,852 --> 00:14:13,922 - Tell me about it. 256 00:14:15,095 --> 00:14:16,821 Charger for batteries at the front door. 257 00:14:16,856 --> 00:14:18,443 We can grab that on the way out. 258 00:14:18,478 --> 00:14:19,479 - [Ash] Famous last words, man. 259 00:14:19,513 --> 00:14:20,376 - Yeah, no doubt. 260 00:14:23,310 --> 00:14:24,898 - [Ash] What are your personal thoughts 261 00:14:24,933 --> 00:14:26,900 on the subject matter? 262 00:14:26,935 --> 00:14:30,283 Would you consider yourself a skeptic or a believer? 263 00:14:30,317 --> 00:14:31,940 - Skeptic, 100%, man, 264 00:14:31,974 --> 00:14:34,425 like I got to see it with my own eyes 265 00:14:34,459 --> 00:14:36,185 if I'm gonna believe this. 266 00:14:36,220 --> 00:14:39,637 So, here I come. [chuckles] 267 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,088 All right, get out of here. 268 00:14:42,122 --> 00:14:43,848 - [Ash] Hey, can I stop you for just a second? 269 00:14:43,883 --> 00:14:44,711 - What? 270 00:14:46,126 --> 00:14:50,441 - I know I don't pry, and I'm not trying to pry, 271 00:14:50,475 --> 00:14:52,029 but I'm just... 272 00:14:53,271 --> 00:14:55,964 You are okay with this, right? 273 00:14:55,998 --> 00:14:59,070 You are fine with with doing this? 274 00:14:59,105 --> 00:15:01,417 - Doing this show, doing documentary? 275 00:15:01,452 --> 00:15:02,936 - [Ash] Yeah. Yeah. 276 00:15:02,971 --> 00:15:04,973 - Like, I've done several of these with you, man. 277 00:15:05,007 --> 00:15:07,251 Why would this be any different? 278 00:15:07,285 --> 00:15:08,666 - [Ash] Because it is different, 279 00:15:08,700 --> 00:15:10,633 because we know some of the shit 280 00:15:10,668 --> 00:15:12,394 that the Millers went through. 281 00:15:12,428 --> 00:15:14,914 And I just want to know that you're okay 282 00:15:14,948 --> 00:15:17,261 and that you're going to be okay, because... 283 00:15:17,295 --> 00:15:18,676 And because I love you. 284 00:15:18,710 --> 00:15:20,471 I love having you there. 285 00:15:20,505 --> 00:15:24,337 But, you know, if you ever need to sit one out 286 00:15:24,371 --> 00:15:26,132 that it's not a big deal, man. 287 00:15:28,203 --> 00:15:30,308 - Ash. What the fuck else would I be doing? 288 00:15:33,587 --> 00:15:36,797 - [Ash] So you're definitely thinking 289 00:15:36,832 --> 00:15:38,661 that we are alone in the universe. 290 00:15:40,525 --> 00:15:43,494 - I haven't seen anything to change my mind. 291 00:15:43,528 --> 00:15:47,049 At the end of the night, when I go to sleep, I'm alone. 292 00:15:49,914 --> 00:15:53,159 When we take our last breath, you're gonna die alone. 293 00:15:54,643 --> 00:15:57,335 So unless I was to see something to change my mind 294 00:15:57,370 --> 00:15:59,889 at this point, no, I don't believe in any of this. 295 00:16:09,416 --> 00:16:10,693 I prefer to be on the other end of the camera. 296 00:16:10,728 --> 00:16:11,522 Honestly. 297 00:16:14,663 --> 00:16:16,354 It's just not really my thing. 298 00:16:16,389 --> 00:16:18,943 - [Ash] It's okay. I think we got what we need. 299 00:16:18,978 --> 00:16:19,806 - Thanks. 300 00:16:30,368 --> 00:16:32,025 [telephone ringing] 301 00:16:32,060 --> 00:16:33,820 - [Ash] And the third time's the charm. 302 00:16:33,854 --> 00:16:35,270 - [Brett] Seriously? 303 00:16:35,304 --> 00:16:36,202 - [Ash] Like I was telling you, three in a row. 304 00:16:36,236 --> 00:16:37,410 - [Brett] Three times a day? 305 00:16:37,444 --> 00:16:39,481 - [Ash] Every day, all from Sean's phone. 306 00:16:39,515 --> 00:16:41,034 Seriously, pick it up. 307 00:16:41,069 --> 00:16:44,279 No, I'm telling you, pick it up, it is creepy as hell. 308 00:16:44,313 --> 00:16:45,211 Seriously. 309 00:16:45,245 --> 00:16:46,143 - [Brett] Okay. Okay. Got it. 310 00:16:46,177 --> 00:16:48,214 - [Ash] Well, do it. Seriously. 311 00:16:48,248 --> 00:16:51,217 - [Brett] Hello? [static buzzes] 312 00:16:51,251 --> 00:16:52,080 Hello. 313 00:16:53,046 --> 00:16:56,187 [static buzzes] 314 00:16:56,222 --> 00:17:00,329 [indistinct whispering] 315 00:17:00,364 --> 00:17:02,297 [phone beeps] 316 00:17:02,331 --> 00:17:03,850 - [Ash] What's wrong? 317 00:17:03,884 --> 00:17:05,300 - [Brett] I gotta get out of here for a minute, man. 318 00:17:05,334 --> 00:17:06,301 - [Ash] Hey, are you okay? 319 00:17:06,335 --> 00:17:07,785 - I just need a minute. - Brett? 320 00:17:12,410 --> 00:17:15,206 [somber music] 321 00:17:15,241 --> 00:17:17,174 - My name is Chanell Hamilton. 322 00:17:17,208 --> 00:17:18,899 I am 42. 323 00:17:18,934 --> 00:17:20,901 I am married to Ash Hamilton 324 00:17:20,936 --> 00:17:24,284 and we've been married for seven years. 325 00:17:24,319 --> 00:17:29,289 And currently my day job is working for the government. 326 00:17:33,155 --> 00:17:35,847 - [Brett] And what do you do with Ash, though, 327 00:17:35,882 --> 00:17:37,090 professionally? 328 00:17:38,609 --> 00:17:43,579 - I do everything he asks of me, basically. 329 00:17:44,718 --> 00:17:47,238 I help set up tripods and the lighting 330 00:17:47,273 --> 00:17:49,378 and make sure that the batteries are charged 331 00:17:49,413 --> 00:17:51,553 and make sure we've got memory cards. 332 00:17:51,587 --> 00:17:54,763 - [Brett] This is, as you are, a documentary filmmaker. 333 00:17:54,797 --> 00:17:56,385 - Yeah. - You're part of the crew. 334 00:17:56,420 --> 00:17:59,181 - Yeah, definitely a big part of the crew. 335 00:17:59,216 --> 00:18:01,494 He leans on me a lot for making sure 336 00:18:01,528 --> 00:18:04,186 that things are ready and in order. 337 00:18:07,741 --> 00:18:10,296 [car rumbling] 338 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,480 - What is your go to, 339 00:18:28,659 --> 00:18:30,488 guilty pleasure sad song. 340 00:18:34,734 --> 00:18:35,942 The one where- 341 00:18:35,976 --> 00:18:37,219 - [Chanell] Are we talking breakup songs 342 00:18:37,254 --> 00:18:41,844 or are we talking like somebody died song or... 343 00:18:41,879 --> 00:18:43,018 - We can include breakups in there, sure, 344 00:18:43,052 --> 00:18:44,468 we can include breakup songs. 345 00:18:44,502 --> 00:18:49,266 So but this is sort of running the entire scope of, 346 00:18:50,681 --> 00:18:52,061 oh my God, I want to die. 347 00:18:52,924 --> 00:18:55,064 This song makes me want to die. 348 00:18:55,099 --> 00:18:57,446 I'm going to listen to it 10 times on repeat. 349 00:18:58,585 --> 00:18:59,414 - How about... 350 00:19:02,693 --> 00:19:05,247 R.E.M. "Everybody Hurts". 351 00:19:05,282 --> 00:19:08,147 - Oh. [everyone laughs] 352 00:19:09,424 --> 00:19:10,356 Breakup song. 353 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,290 - [Brett] Oh, you're going to go for the breakup song? 354 00:19:13,324 --> 00:19:15,326 - You know, I've had the most experience, [laughs]. 355 00:19:18,778 --> 00:19:20,607 Breakup song, there's this Peter Gabriel song, 356 00:19:20,642 --> 00:19:23,127 and I cannot remember the name of it. 357 00:19:23,162 --> 00:19:26,579 Is it "In your eyes"? - No. 358 00:19:26,613 --> 00:19:27,718 - Or is it "Stay"? - No. 359 00:19:27,752 --> 00:19:28,995 - The one he did with Kate Bush. 360 00:19:29,029 --> 00:19:29,892 - No. 361 00:19:29,927 --> 00:19:31,239 - Or is that "Stay"? 362 00:19:31,273 --> 00:19:34,173 - [Chanell] No, I don't know. But it's not that. 363 00:19:34,207 --> 00:19:36,244 - "Salisbury Hill"? - No. 364 00:19:37,762 --> 00:19:39,971 - I don't think you know what song it is. 365 00:19:40,006 --> 00:19:44,355 - I don't remember the name of the song. 366 00:19:44,390 --> 00:19:46,461 - But you know that it's Peter Gabriel. 367 00:19:46,495 --> 00:19:47,289 - [Chanell] Yeah. 368 00:19:48,497 --> 00:19:51,811 - It's not like a weird like for some reason, 369 00:19:51,845 --> 00:19:53,916 like "Sledgehammer" was your breakup song? 370 00:20:01,096 --> 00:20:05,065 - And what was your initial opinion of the Millers? 371 00:20:05,100 --> 00:20:09,380 - You know, at first they seemed a little apprehensive. 372 00:20:10,381 --> 00:20:12,452 And somewhat standoffish. 373 00:20:12,487 --> 00:20:14,972 But the the days that we spent with them, 374 00:20:15,006 --> 00:20:19,770 we seemed to grow a friendship with them. 375 00:20:21,806 --> 00:20:24,223 - Got to be it. 376 00:20:24,257 --> 00:20:26,363 Where are we on the GPS? Are we close? 377 00:20:26,397 --> 00:20:28,192 - GPS shows that this should be it. 378 00:20:30,229 --> 00:20:31,644 So what did he say? 379 00:20:31,678 --> 00:20:34,681 - Well, he he said a rickety old picket fence. 380 00:20:34,716 --> 00:20:39,686 Which [chuckles] that is a rickety old picket fence. 381 00:20:41,205 --> 00:20:44,864 I mean, it's a great fence, though, but it's like, man, 382 00:20:44,898 --> 00:20:45,830 you can't really say anything other 383 00:20:45,865 --> 00:20:47,246 than a rickety old picket fence. 384 00:20:48,695 --> 00:20:51,664 God damn. They are out in the middle of nowhere. 385 00:20:53,424 --> 00:20:54,218 Jesus. 386 00:20:56,255 --> 00:20:59,603 - [Brett] Home sweet home for the next couple of days. 387 00:20:59,637 --> 00:21:03,123 - I'm not sure they have Internet out here, babe. 388 00:21:04,746 --> 00:21:06,679 Just being honest with you. 389 00:21:06,713 --> 00:21:08,232 I'm not really sure. 390 00:21:08,267 --> 00:21:09,958 - I've got like one and a half bars. 391 00:21:11,649 --> 00:21:14,273 [Ash knocking] 392 00:21:20,762 --> 00:21:22,729 - Hey. - Ash? 393 00:21:22,764 --> 00:21:24,697 Yes. Hey, you doing? 394 00:21:24,731 --> 00:21:25,905 - Good seeing you again. 395 00:21:27,631 --> 00:21:29,702 Do you mind, just give her a minute. 396 00:21:29,736 --> 00:21:30,668 She's not... 397 00:21:31,876 --> 00:21:35,086 super excited that this happening. 398 00:21:35,121 --> 00:21:38,262 So we need to just kind of let her cool for a second. 399 00:21:38,297 --> 00:21:39,401 Hi. - Chanell. 400 00:21:39,436 --> 00:21:40,609 - Chanell. 401 00:21:40,644 --> 00:21:42,370 Yeah, I've heard about you from Ash. 402 00:21:42,404 --> 00:21:43,578 - All good things. 403 00:21:43,612 --> 00:21:44,820 - Yeah. Yeah. - All good things. 404 00:21:44,855 --> 00:21:45,683 - Brett. 405 00:21:48,168 --> 00:21:50,826 - When I first started talking to Sean, 406 00:21:52,311 --> 00:21:54,140 even though we were hopeful 407 00:21:54,174 --> 00:21:56,556 that this whole project was gonna happen, 408 00:21:56,591 --> 00:21:58,834 Sean was extremely reserved. 409 00:22:00,353 --> 00:22:03,494 This was a couple that had not talked to news outlets 410 00:22:04,771 --> 00:22:07,533 for the better part of six years about this. 411 00:22:22,375 --> 00:22:23,203 I'm sorry. 412 00:22:29,244 --> 00:22:33,213 As far I knew everything was going to be cool. 413 00:22:33,248 --> 00:22:34,698 I feel bad because I don't want to put you guys 414 00:22:34,732 --> 00:22:38,460 in a position of, not cool, because, admittedly, 415 00:22:38,495 --> 00:22:41,118 that was a little strange. 416 00:22:41,152 --> 00:22:43,396 - [Brett] You could cut tension with a knife. 417 00:22:43,431 --> 00:22:46,675 - I hope she's going to be cool because, like. 418 00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:48,643 I already felt like that tension. 419 00:22:49,713 --> 00:22:51,473 - Well, it was definitely there. 420 00:22:51,508 --> 00:22:55,443 It was there. 421 00:22:55,477 --> 00:22:58,480 What I don't want is for us to get all the way out here, 422 00:22:58,515 --> 00:23:00,309 and come all the way back, 423 00:23:00,344 --> 00:23:03,105 because things weren't sewn up the way the way 424 00:23:03,140 --> 00:23:05,142 we thought they were gonna be. 425 00:23:05,176 --> 00:23:06,212 But... 426 00:23:06,246 --> 00:23:07,765 - I mean, we're here. - Yeah. 427 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:08,766 No, you're right. 428 00:23:08,801 --> 00:23:10,009 So let's, for the time being. 429 00:23:11,804 --> 00:23:12,805 You know. All right. 430 00:23:16,429 --> 00:23:18,431 - [Interviewer] You've had some experiences 431 00:23:18,466 --> 00:23:21,779 that wouldn't be your typical shoot, right? 432 00:23:24,886 --> 00:23:26,508 - And I know this is... 433 00:23:28,337 --> 00:23:31,271 There were incidences, 434 00:23:33,550 --> 00:23:37,416 there were things that happened on phone calls with Sean, 435 00:23:37,450 --> 00:23:42,421 on Zoom meetings with Sean, that we could not explain. 436 00:23:43,836 --> 00:23:46,873 - [Interviewer] So you're saying that you were starting 437 00:23:46,908 --> 00:23:49,117 to experience a co-experience 438 00:23:49,151 --> 00:23:51,119 as you were interacting with Sean? 439 00:23:52,569 --> 00:23:57,297 - It was, not only very strange, but it was very unexpected. 440 00:23:57,884 --> 00:23:59,990 [pensive music] 441 00:24:06,203 --> 00:24:07,653 - Some of the ones that we do, 442 00:24:08,688 --> 00:24:10,172 a lot of the the stuff that I do 443 00:24:10,207 --> 00:24:13,313 is I try to help organize the foremen on the job 444 00:24:13,348 --> 00:24:18,353 and try to help them get stuff done. 445 00:24:19,872 --> 00:24:21,252 - Sean, real quick. - Yeah. 446 00:24:22,426 --> 00:24:24,946 - Is that what you were talking about on Zoom 447 00:24:25,878 --> 00:24:27,120 as far as the lights? 448 00:24:27,155 --> 00:24:29,191 Because I noticed that that light turned off. 449 00:24:32,125 --> 00:24:34,127 - Yeah. - There it went again, 450 00:24:34,162 --> 00:24:36,509 but yet we've got the lights on in the kitchen. 451 00:24:36,544 --> 00:24:37,614 - Yeah. Yeah. 452 00:24:37,648 --> 00:24:41,307 No that's definitely something 453 00:24:41,341 --> 00:24:45,173 and I've checked the wiring in the house 454 00:24:45,207 --> 00:24:48,970 and I've had and you know, at Stacey's, 455 00:24:50,178 --> 00:24:53,146 urgency, I've had other people come in 456 00:24:53,181 --> 00:24:55,804 and check it and it's... 457 00:24:57,703 --> 00:24:59,290 Everything checked out okay. 458 00:25:03,916 --> 00:25:05,987 - [Ash] If you don't mind me asking. 459 00:25:06,021 --> 00:25:08,403 And again, I know that this is going to seem interruptive 460 00:25:08,437 --> 00:25:12,787 because when I think of questions, I'll ask them. 461 00:25:12,821 --> 00:25:15,652 Does that happen so often that we're going to have problems 462 00:25:15,686 --> 00:25:18,309 with our lights, or will it stay on for a while 463 00:25:19,483 --> 00:25:21,071 and then just do that periodically? 464 00:25:21,105 --> 00:25:22,555 - I wish I could tell you. 465 00:25:32,669 --> 00:25:35,050 - [Ash] The incident in 2013 466 00:25:35,085 --> 00:25:36,293 and this was happening in the house 467 00:25:36,327 --> 00:25:39,296 previous to the incident in 2013. 468 00:25:42,713 --> 00:25:44,335 - Yeah. Yeah, it was. 469 00:25:44,370 --> 00:25:46,959 [pot clatters] 470 00:25:47,925 --> 00:25:48,754 - [Ash] Okay. 471 00:25:51,204 --> 00:25:54,794 Now, that happened literally off camera. 472 00:25:54,829 --> 00:25:56,313 - Yeah. 473 00:25:56,347 --> 00:25:57,970 - [Ash] But we're going to catch the audio on that. 474 00:25:59,454 --> 00:26:03,596 As we were talking about the phenomena with the lights, 475 00:26:04,804 --> 00:26:09,498 Literally one of the pots from the kitchen 476 00:26:10,983 --> 00:26:15,919 and I'm not exaggerating, sprang off the wall. 477 00:26:17,230 --> 00:26:19,854 And it did it with such force. 478 00:26:21,441 --> 00:26:22,719 - Yeah. It busted the handle, right off. 479 00:26:22,753 --> 00:26:26,377 - [Ash] That it actually busted the handle. 480 00:26:26,412 --> 00:26:29,484 - Yeah, 'cause it's only been used a handful of times. 481 00:26:29,518 --> 00:26:30,347 It's fairly new. 482 00:26:32,418 --> 00:26:34,454 - [Ash] And this is common. 483 00:26:34,489 --> 00:26:36,284 This is another common thing. 484 00:26:36,318 --> 00:26:37,906 - It's something. Yeah. 485 00:26:39,252 --> 00:26:42,462 I don't want to say it's normal. 486 00:26:42,497 --> 00:26:45,776 'Cause I mean, this isn't normal, right? 487 00:26:47,329 --> 00:26:48,399 It is for me. 488 00:26:53,853 --> 00:26:55,027 - [Interviewer] We've heard reports 489 00:26:55,061 --> 00:26:56,545 of cryptids and poltergeist activity 490 00:26:56,580 --> 00:26:59,031 associated with the Sean Miller case. 491 00:26:59,065 --> 00:27:03,207 Is this atypical of UFO abduction encounters? 492 00:27:03,242 --> 00:27:04,726 - Yes. 493 00:27:04,761 --> 00:27:08,627 Many people don't realize when there are cases of anything 494 00:27:08,661 --> 00:27:11,422 that can be labeled paranormal or supernatural. 495 00:27:11,457 --> 00:27:13,390 There are areas where there are 496 00:27:13,424 --> 00:27:16,324 a lot of different things going on. 497 00:27:16,358 --> 00:27:18,188 And what I mean by that is 498 00:27:18,222 --> 00:27:22,123 you'll find even geographical areas of the world 499 00:27:22,157 --> 00:27:25,644 where you will have reports of UFO sightings, 500 00:27:25,678 --> 00:27:28,716 of Bigfoot sightings, of ghost encounters 501 00:27:28,750 --> 00:27:30,200 all in the same place. 502 00:27:30,234 --> 00:27:32,961 You know, we in the field are still investigating that. 503 00:27:32,996 --> 00:27:34,583 We keep our mind open. 504 00:27:34,618 --> 00:27:36,655 We're looking to see if there's a relationship 505 00:27:36,689 --> 00:27:37,863 and all of that that happens. 506 00:27:37,897 --> 00:27:41,729 But it is not out of the realm of possibility 507 00:27:41,763 --> 00:27:44,939 that there are different paranormal occurrences 508 00:27:44,973 --> 00:27:47,527 happening in one particular incident. 509 00:27:47,562 --> 00:27:50,496 [foreboding music] 510 00:28:09,618 --> 00:28:12,483 - [Ash] Okay. So we are going to try this again. 511 00:28:12,518 --> 00:28:15,590 We keep having battery issues with the audio unit 512 00:28:15,624 --> 00:28:20,250 batteries draining as well as the camera itself. 513 00:28:20,284 --> 00:28:23,425 New batteries of both units that we have had to replace 514 00:28:23,460 --> 00:28:25,876 within about three minutes of shooting. 515 00:28:25,911 --> 00:28:28,879 So we're going to try to do it this time 516 00:28:28,914 --> 00:28:30,985 and see what happens. 517 00:28:31,019 --> 00:28:32,434 Luckily, we got plenty of batteries, 518 00:28:32,469 --> 00:28:35,403 so I think we can keep switching out if we need to. 519 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,993 So I know that this was part of the test footage 520 00:28:39,027 --> 00:28:40,546 we ran through earlier, 521 00:28:40,580 --> 00:28:42,755 I know that we had some lighting issues. 522 00:28:43,963 --> 00:28:45,758 This is all stuff that we talked about on Zoom 523 00:28:45,793 --> 00:28:47,139 that we were prepared for. 524 00:28:47,173 --> 00:28:49,348 It is just happening a little more rapidly 525 00:28:49,382 --> 00:28:50,867 than we had expected. 526 00:28:50,901 --> 00:28:53,076 So we should still be good, though. 527 00:28:53,110 --> 00:28:58,081 So if you could please give me your name, your age. 528 00:29:02,395 --> 00:29:07,366 Just give us your name, your age, and your occupation. 529 00:29:11,232 --> 00:29:12,371 - Sean Miller. 530 00:29:12,405 --> 00:29:14,822 I'm 43 years old. 531 00:29:14,856 --> 00:29:19,792 I am a Project Inspector for a local construction company. 532 00:29:23,934 --> 00:29:27,282 [pensive music] 533 00:29:27,317 --> 00:29:28,594 - [Ash] If you could Sean, 534 00:29:30,044 --> 00:29:31,942 Could you tell us how long you've lived in the Midwest, 535 00:29:31,977 --> 00:29:33,323 have you always lived in the Midwest? 536 00:29:34,945 --> 00:29:39,916 - Yeah. Since I was little. 537 00:29:40,813 --> 00:29:42,815 Probably about eight or nine. 538 00:29:44,265 --> 00:29:46,612 For the most part, I lived in the Midwest area. 539 00:29:49,235 --> 00:29:54,102 When I was young, my dad did a lot of... 540 00:29:59,901 --> 00:30:02,076 traveling with his company 541 00:30:02,110 --> 00:30:06,701 and before he left 542 00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:16,055 we settled here with my mom, myself and him. 543 00:30:16,090 --> 00:30:21,060 And then we pretty much stayed, my mom and I. 544 00:30:24,063 --> 00:30:25,582 - [Ash] Apologies, but are your parents 545 00:30:25,616 --> 00:30:26,997 currently alive or deceased? 546 00:30:28,896 --> 00:30:30,380 - My mother's alive. 547 00:30:30,414 --> 00:30:32,209 My father... 548 00:30:32,244 --> 00:30:34,867 [static buzzes] 549 00:30:38,664 --> 00:30:39,492 Sorry. 550 00:30:43,427 --> 00:30:45,084 We talked about this happening. 551 00:30:51,573 --> 00:30:54,438 - [Interviewer] So we've seen moments that looks like 552 00:30:54,473 --> 00:30:58,684 it has affected every single aspect off Sean's life. 553 00:30:58,718 --> 00:31:03,654 - There were moments where, now mind you we went into this 554 00:31:04,828 --> 00:31:06,726 with the idea of entertainment value, 555 00:31:06,761 --> 00:31:09,764 and that was what we were trying 556 00:31:09,798 --> 00:31:11,421 to sort of capture from the start. 557 00:31:12,871 --> 00:31:17,530 However, I think when you do see just how affected 558 00:31:18,738 --> 00:31:21,396 someone is, it does sort of center things 559 00:31:21,431 --> 00:31:23,226 and ground it a little bit. 560 00:31:23,260 --> 00:31:28,231 And I think you can tell, especially some points 561 00:31:29,439 --> 00:31:32,821 where he's trying so hard to be normal, 562 00:31:32,856 --> 00:31:36,135 and I guess he's trying so hard to just live his life 563 00:31:36,170 --> 00:31:39,932 and it's almost like he almost gets there. 564 00:31:39,967 --> 00:31:42,590 And then there's just so much baggage 565 00:31:42,624 --> 00:31:44,764 that it just draws him back. 566 00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:47,250 And I think we saw that a lot while we were there. 567 00:31:52,151 --> 00:31:54,913 - I think the biggest thing is that I just, 568 00:31:56,121 --> 00:32:00,090 I like how neatly they wrap up a mystery 569 00:32:01,574 --> 00:32:04,819 in that 20, 15 to 20 minutes. 570 00:32:04,853 --> 00:32:07,926 You know, it was kind of like put a neat bow on it. 571 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,411 But as a kid, you just, 572 00:32:10,445 --> 00:32:12,240 you almost kind of knew it was coming. 573 00:32:12,275 --> 00:32:14,346 Like he knew exactly who the bad guy was. 574 00:32:14,380 --> 00:32:16,796 But you still, there's a little part of you 575 00:32:16,831 --> 00:32:18,660 that thought they might throw a curve ball. 576 00:32:18,695 --> 00:32:20,421 - It was whoever owned property, right? 577 00:32:20,455 --> 00:32:21,698 - Yeah. 578 00:32:21,732 --> 00:32:24,045 - It was like, just look at the property owner 579 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,253 in "Scooby Doo". 580 00:32:25,288 --> 00:32:28,256 If you're a property owner, you're a villain. 581 00:32:28,291 --> 00:32:29,809 That's all there is to it. 582 00:32:29,844 --> 00:32:33,399 I think this was one of the first full frontal assaults 583 00:32:33,434 --> 00:32:36,092 on out of control capitalism in American cartoons. 584 00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:38,715 - [Chanell] Big fan of the Snorks. 585 00:32:39,681 --> 00:32:41,373 - You mean underwater Smurfs? 586 00:32:41,407 --> 00:32:42,650 - Fuck, yeah. 587 00:32:42,684 --> 00:32:46,171 Second, but equal to the Snorks is Smurfs. 588 00:32:46,205 --> 00:32:47,689 Obviously. 589 00:32:48,932 --> 00:32:53,523 But, you know, when I was probably somewhere 590 00:32:53,557 --> 00:32:55,490 second, third, fourth grade, 591 00:32:57,285 --> 00:32:59,805 when I would get home from school, 592 00:32:59,839 --> 00:33:01,531 the exact time I got home from school, 593 00:33:01,565 --> 00:33:04,879 I could not get off the bus fast enough and get inside. 594 00:33:04,913 --> 00:33:07,813 Oddly, it was the animated "Dennis the Menace". 595 00:33:08,987 --> 00:33:11,851 It was weird, that I had to watch 596 00:33:11,886 --> 00:33:14,854 those 25 minutes of "Dennis the Menace". 597 00:33:14,889 --> 00:33:18,306 Running from the bus missed the first 5 minutes, 598 00:33:18,341 --> 00:33:21,309 but still, had to be there. 599 00:33:21,344 --> 00:33:23,518 - So, you were always running low 5 minutes of Menace. 600 00:33:23,553 --> 00:33:25,003 - There was an episode. 601 00:33:26,418 --> 00:33:31,354 I love old school "Star Wars" and droids was, like it. 602 00:33:33,356 --> 00:33:35,565 - Was was it Ewoks and Droids? 603 00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:37,739 - Ewoks and Droids. - Yes. 604 00:33:37,774 --> 00:33:39,914 - And there is this episode 605 00:33:41,812 --> 00:33:45,954 and it was I want to say, it's one of the ones that was 606 00:33:45,989 --> 00:33:48,405 I mean, a lot of them did crossovers with Endor, 607 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:49,889 it was one of the ones where I think 608 00:33:49,924 --> 00:33:51,684 they they all went to Endor. 609 00:33:51,719 --> 00:33:54,998 And I never got to see it again. 610 00:33:55,033 --> 00:33:55,964 It only aired. 611 00:33:55,999 --> 00:33:56,896 I missed that episode. 612 00:33:56,931 --> 00:33:58,174 You talk about missing episodes. 613 00:33:58,208 --> 00:33:59,692 I missed that episode. 614 00:33:59,727 --> 00:34:01,108 And it was, I happened to miss it because that week... 615 00:34:06,768 --> 00:34:11,635 that week and that weekend, I was out camping with family. 616 00:34:12,809 --> 00:34:14,638 We were out at a lake and a cabin we had 617 00:34:14,673 --> 00:34:16,088 and we were out there camping. 618 00:34:16,123 --> 00:34:18,711 It was a great week, it was a lot of fun. 619 00:34:18,746 --> 00:34:22,612 But the reason that I remember that is because 620 00:34:22,646 --> 00:34:24,821 not only did I miss that episode that never aired again, 621 00:34:24,855 --> 00:34:26,340 that was super pissed, because I didn't get to see it 622 00:34:26,374 --> 00:34:30,447 until recently when you can find everything on the internet. 623 00:34:30,482 --> 00:34:34,175 But one of my friends I got back told me that, 624 00:34:36,660 --> 00:34:41,631 my friend Shane, he told me that all the kids on the block, 625 00:34:43,184 --> 00:34:45,945 were sitting there in front of my house 626 00:34:45,980 --> 00:34:49,328 watching these lights go by. 627 00:34:49,363 --> 00:34:51,330 And I was like, "What are you talking about lights?" 628 00:34:51,365 --> 00:34:54,713 Like, Are you talking about, like, you know, people 629 00:34:54,747 --> 00:34:57,440 running around with flashlights playing night tag? 630 00:35:00,615 --> 00:35:02,307 Like we used to sit around, like, you know, give- 631 00:35:02,341 --> 00:35:03,446 - Flashlight tag. - Yeah, flashlight tag. 632 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,551 Yeah, yeah, that's it. 633 00:35:05,586 --> 00:35:06,828 But he's like, "No, no", he's like, 634 00:35:06,863 --> 00:35:11,212 "We were all camped out kind of on the street." 635 00:35:11,247 --> 00:35:13,145 We lived a little outside of town, but not too far, 636 00:35:13,180 --> 00:35:16,355 kind of in a little kind of rural suburb. 637 00:35:16,390 --> 00:35:20,325 And on my street, all the kids are gathered, 638 00:35:20,359 --> 00:35:24,260 I guess there's these like spheres of light 639 00:35:24,294 --> 00:35:27,297 that just kind of went up and down the street 640 00:35:28,333 --> 00:35:29,886 and they thought, at first, 641 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:30,887 "Are you talking about firefly's or something?" 642 00:35:30,921 --> 00:35:33,510 "No, no, like actual balls, 643 00:35:33,545 --> 00:35:36,237 like about the size, some of them the size of a golf ball, 644 00:35:36,272 --> 00:35:38,688 something a little bigger, like a softball." 645 00:35:38,722 --> 00:35:43,693 And they were they were looking for me, he said. 646 00:35:44,970 --> 00:35:48,629 But I don't know. 647 00:35:50,148 --> 00:35:50,976 I don't know. 648 00:35:52,978 --> 00:35:54,773 But they stopped when I got back. 649 00:35:57,569 --> 00:35:58,846 They stopped. 650 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,814 [foreboding music] 651 00:36:04,403 --> 00:36:05,301 - [Interviewer] I know that you've all had 652 00:36:05,335 --> 00:36:07,199 some lighthearted moments. 653 00:36:07,234 --> 00:36:09,857 Did you ever think that you could turn your cameras off? 654 00:36:09,891 --> 00:36:12,618 - It was like it was a struggle to put the camera down 655 00:36:12,653 --> 00:36:14,896 because I think each of us felt the moment 656 00:36:14,931 --> 00:36:16,450 we were going to put one of those cameras down, 657 00:36:16,484 --> 00:36:17,968 something was going to happen 658 00:36:18,003 --> 00:36:19,694 that could not be duplicated. 659 00:36:19,729 --> 00:36:23,284 Something new, something even more intense. 660 00:36:25,907 --> 00:36:30,049 Literally like 65 floors up, 65 floors up. 661 00:36:30,084 --> 00:36:31,327 So this guy is hanging over the railing. 662 00:36:31,361 --> 00:36:32,673 This is wrought iron. 663 00:36:32,707 --> 00:36:35,123 There's absolutely nothing keeping him 664 00:36:35,158 --> 00:36:37,298 from literally falling off the... 665 00:36:37,333 --> 00:36:39,990 [knock on door] 666 00:36:42,338 --> 00:36:44,063 - Yeah. Lemme go check. 667 00:36:44,098 --> 00:36:45,582 Sorry, guys. Hold on a second. 668 00:36:49,931 --> 00:36:52,244 - [Chanell] Girl scouts. Want some cookies? 669 00:36:52,279 --> 00:36:54,108 [knocking on back door] 670 00:36:54,142 --> 00:36:56,593 - Babe, babe I think. 671 00:36:56,628 --> 00:36:57,836 I think they're around back. 672 00:36:57,870 --> 00:36:59,769 - Okay. Yeah, they might go around. 673 00:37:03,048 --> 00:37:05,326 [knock on front door] 674 00:37:05,361 --> 00:37:07,811 But probably some fucking kids. 675 00:37:07,846 --> 00:37:08,847 Oh, fuckin with us. 676 00:37:08,881 --> 00:37:10,331 Okay, you know what? 677 00:37:10,366 --> 00:37:13,645 You guys go that way, and we're gonna go around this way, 678 00:37:13,679 --> 00:37:15,371 and we'll try to see if we can cut 'em off 679 00:37:15,405 --> 00:37:16,337 around the corner, okay? - Okay. 680 00:37:16,372 --> 00:37:17,752 - All right. - Come on. 681 00:37:18,891 --> 00:37:20,238 Assholes. 682 00:37:20,272 --> 00:37:24,725 - Do you have a flashlight? - Yeah, I got one. 683 00:37:27,866 --> 00:37:28,936 Hey, who's out there? 684 00:37:44,883 --> 00:37:46,643 [knocking on door] 685 00:37:46,678 --> 00:37:47,886 - [Ash] You guys seriously just knock? 686 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,922 - No, No. - No we didn't. 687 00:37:52,546 --> 00:37:55,963 - I saw the fucking door. 688 00:37:55,997 --> 00:37:57,689 Something was knocking on the door. 689 00:37:58,862 --> 00:38:00,830 You just walked up, and the door was almost. 690 00:38:01,900 --> 00:38:02,832 - [Ash] From the outside? 691 00:38:02,866 --> 00:38:04,834 - Something was there, knocking. 692 00:38:06,214 --> 00:38:08,596 - [Brett] 100% Ash. Totally seen that. 693 00:38:10,253 --> 00:38:11,461 It's on camera. 694 00:38:41,526 --> 00:38:42,941 - [Chanell] Hey. 695 00:38:42,975 --> 00:38:44,563 Hey, baby. Ash! 696 00:38:44,598 --> 00:38:46,634 Babe! You got to get up. 697 00:38:46,669 --> 00:38:47,808 You got to. 698 00:38:47,842 --> 00:38:49,016 You got to see what Brett's doing. 699 00:38:49,050 --> 00:38:49,913 You got to see what you he's doing. 700 00:38:49,948 --> 00:38:52,260 He's out here. He's out here. 701 00:38:52,295 --> 00:38:53,331 - Okay. 702 00:38:53,365 --> 00:38:54,262 Should I grab my phone? 703 00:38:54,297 --> 00:38:55,919 - [Chanell] God Yes. Yes. 704 00:38:55,954 --> 00:38:56,989 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 705 00:38:57,024 --> 00:38:57,956 C'mon hurry up. 706 00:38:57,990 --> 00:38:59,958 Hurry, hurry, hurry, hurry. 707 00:38:59,992 --> 00:39:01,753 - [Ash] Goddamit, I gotta find. 708 00:39:01,787 --> 00:39:03,686 I gotta turn the fucking light on. 709 00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:05,826 - [Chanell] You know how to use this thing? 710 00:39:15,939 --> 00:39:17,424 He's not there. 711 00:39:19,184 --> 00:39:20,565 He's on the stairs. 712 00:39:20,599 --> 00:39:22,670 - He's on the fucking stairs? - He's on the stairs. 713 00:39:22,705 --> 00:39:24,914 He's on the stairs. 714 00:39:24,948 --> 00:39:27,192 So, I don't know. 715 00:39:27,226 --> 00:39:28,780 - [Ash] What the fuck is he doing on the stairs? 716 00:39:28,814 --> 00:39:32,059 - I have no clue. He's freaking me out. 717 00:39:33,509 --> 00:39:34,475 Look at this! 718 00:39:34,510 --> 00:39:36,615 - [Ash] He's right over here. 719 00:39:36,650 --> 00:39:38,583 - [Chanell] We can't see him, 720 00:39:38,617 --> 00:39:41,482 at least let me get the flashlight. 721 00:39:48,731 --> 00:39:51,527 - [Ash] What in the fucking world? 722 00:39:57,705 --> 00:40:01,399 What the fuck is going on? - What is he doing? 723 00:40:03,780 --> 00:40:06,265 Is he fucking talking? 724 00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:08,958 - [Chanell] Yeah. Looks like it. 725 00:40:11,754 --> 00:40:13,341 - [Ash] I gotta fucking wake him up. 726 00:40:13,376 --> 00:40:14,688 - [Chanell] I don't think that's a good idea. 727 00:40:14,722 --> 00:40:16,068 - [Ash] I gotta fucking wake him up. 728 00:40:16,103 --> 00:40:17,829 You know what's gonna fuckin' happen? 729 00:40:17,863 --> 00:40:18,864 He's gonna wake Sean and Stacey, 730 00:40:18,899 --> 00:40:21,073 which we can't fucking have. 731 00:40:21,108 --> 00:40:25,284 And second of all, he's half fucking asleep on the stairs. 732 00:40:27,735 --> 00:40:30,358 - [Chanell] Don't make him fall down the stairs. 733 00:40:30,393 --> 00:40:34,190 - [Ash] He's not gonna fucking fall down the stairs. 734 00:40:34,224 --> 00:40:37,262 - [Ash] I don't think is a good idea. 735 00:40:41,231 --> 00:40:42,060 - Brett. 736 00:40:44,407 --> 00:40:48,825 [Brett mumbling incoherently] Brett. 737 00:40:50,862 --> 00:40:51,656 Brett. 738 00:40:59,629 --> 00:41:02,183 [eerie music] 739 00:41:02,218 --> 00:41:03,012 Dude. 740 00:41:05,117 --> 00:41:06,809 Whoa, whoa. Fuck. 741 00:41:11,020 --> 00:41:13,367 - [Interviewer] We know that Brett, 742 00:41:13,401 --> 00:41:16,853 who just went through a divorce, recently lost their son. 743 00:41:16,888 --> 00:41:18,510 Was this the best place for him? 744 00:41:20,063 --> 00:41:22,859 - I didn't think that this was the best one for him 745 00:41:22,894 --> 00:41:24,378 in the beginning. 746 00:41:24,412 --> 00:41:28,106 And we talked about it. 747 00:41:29,314 --> 00:41:33,905 And then by the time we were as thick 748 00:41:33,939 --> 00:41:35,596 in the situation as we were, 749 00:41:35,631 --> 00:41:37,909 he definitely shouldn't have been there. 750 00:41:46,296 --> 00:41:48,885 - Stacy, it's really nice to meet you today. 751 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,578 Can you tell me, though, your name and your occupation 752 00:41:51,612 --> 00:41:54,408 and how did you know Sean? 753 00:41:54,442 --> 00:41:56,168 - I'm Stacey Miller. 754 00:41:56,203 --> 00:41:58,619 I am the wife of Sean Miller. 755 00:41:58,654 --> 00:42:03,590 I'm 36 years old and I'm a bank teller at a local bank. 756 00:42:04,763 --> 00:42:05,833 - I see. 757 00:42:05,868 --> 00:42:07,559 Have you talked about this 758 00:42:07,594 --> 00:42:09,941 with many of your neighbors or friends, 759 00:42:09,975 --> 00:42:13,461 or how widely known is this situation? 760 00:42:13,496 --> 00:42:16,844 - No, I don't talk to much people. 761 00:42:16,879 --> 00:42:18,294 I mean, I have my sister. 762 00:42:18,328 --> 00:42:20,365 She's my backbone. 763 00:42:20,399 --> 00:42:22,609 Other than that, I keep to myself. 764 00:42:22,643 --> 00:42:24,196 It's just gotten to that point. 765 00:42:26,716 --> 00:42:30,064 - [Ash] You'll have to forgive me here, but I'm still unsure 766 00:42:30,099 --> 00:42:32,964 as to why you decided to stay in the house 767 00:42:32,998 --> 00:42:33,999 that you're in now 768 00:42:35,207 --> 00:42:39,280 when you've left some of the others so quickly. 769 00:42:41,489 --> 00:42:42,318 - Well. 770 00:42:45,493 --> 00:42:47,737 - [Stacey] Tell them why you made us stay. 771 00:42:53,501 --> 00:42:55,987 - Maybe. Why don't we? 772 00:42:56,021 --> 00:42:58,714 Can we circle back to that one can we, 773 00:42:58,748 --> 00:43:00,681 we will circle back. 774 00:43:00,716 --> 00:43:01,579 - Yeah. 775 00:43:01,613 --> 00:43:02,649 - We will circle back. 776 00:43:06,756 --> 00:43:09,621 [foreboding music] 777 00:43:14,453 --> 00:43:15,834 - [Sean] I gotta be quick 778 00:43:15,869 --> 00:43:17,560 because I got the interview today later on. 779 00:43:18,872 --> 00:43:20,390 Cross your fingers it all works out. 780 00:43:20,425 --> 00:43:21,737 - [Stacey] Okay. 781 00:43:22,669 --> 00:43:24,084 - Oh hey. 782 00:43:24,118 --> 00:43:26,155 Since I know you don't have a lot of time. 783 00:43:26,189 --> 00:43:27,432 I know we had talked about, 784 00:43:27,466 --> 00:43:29,020 we needed to get the video footage 785 00:43:29,054 --> 00:43:33,265 that you have on your phone onto our SDS 786 00:43:33,300 --> 00:43:35,578 so that we can take them back. 787 00:43:35,613 --> 00:43:38,961 So if you could, just give us your passcode 788 00:43:38,995 --> 00:43:40,376 and we'll go ahead and do it all. 789 00:43:40,410 --> 00:43:41,584 You don't have to worry about it. 790 00:43:41,619 --> 00:43:42,792 If you're gonna be getting ready, 791 00:43:42,827 --> 00:43:43,690 we can do it while you're getting ready. 792 00:43:43,724 --> 00:43:45,864 - I looked over it man 793 00:43:45,899 --> 00:43:47,659 and there isn't a whole lot on there, dude. 794 00:43:47,694 --> 00:43:51,387 I don't know if I just didn't do it right or whatever. 795 00:43:51,421 --> 00:43:53,216 But there's just, I guess I must not have pressed a button 796 00:43:53,251 --> 00:43:55,184 or something or other just didn't seem like it 797 00:43:55,218 --> 00:43:56,875 turned out okay. 798 00:43:56,910 --> 00:43:59,050 - Honestly, we can use anything for b-roll. 799 00:43:59,084 --> 00:44:00,568 So even if it's stuff just around the house. 800 00:44:00,603 --> 00:44:03,813 I mean, even if it's stuff that you think is not good. 801 00:44:03,848 --> 00:44:07,541 - I don't think really it picked up anything. 802 00:44:08,818 --> 00:44:10,026 I don't think there's anything on there 803 00:44:10,061 --> 00:44:11,165 that'll work for you. 804 00:44:12,442 --> 00:44:14,652 So listen, babe. 805 00:44:14,686 --> 00:44:15,480 This is all great. 806 00:44:15,514 --> 00:44:16,412 Thank you so much. 807 00:44:16,446 --> 00:44:18,069 But I've got to get ready, 808 00:44:18,103 --> 00:44:20,623 so I'm gonna go change real quick, okay? 809 00:44:20,658 --> 00:44:21,486 - Okay. 810 00:44:25,870 --> 00:44:28,631 [door squeaking] 811 00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:44,820 - Here. One nine, seven, eight. 812 00:44:44,854 --> 00:44:46,166 You can get into it. 813 00:45:03,770 --> 00:45:04,563 - It's Sean. 814 00:45:04,598 --> 00:45:05,841 It's a little after two. 815 00:45:07,049 --> 00:45:11,156 I've been hearing this noise nonstop all night. 816 00:45:11,191 --> 00:45:14,332 [unintelligible noise] 817 00:45:14,366 --> 00:45:15,816 Think there's something outside the window? 818 00:45:15,851 --> 00:45:18,198 It sounds like something's trying to get my attention. 819 00:45:20,062 --> 00:45:21,649 So I'm gonna, I'm going to go check it out 820 00:45:21,684 --> 00:45:23,168 and see what it is. 821 00:45:23,203 --> 00:45:27,586 I can hear it our there now, hopefully I can catch it. 822 00:45:30,003 --> 00:45:33,247 [unintelligible noise] 823 00:45:34,524 --> 00:45:37,286 [deep breathing] 824 00:45:38,183 --> 00:45:40,945 [static buzzing] 825 00:45:42,291 --> 00:45:43,844 That's imposssible. 826 00:45:47,330 --> 00:45:48,676 It's really him. 827 00:45:49,608 --> 00:45:50,437 God. 828 00:45:53,198 --> 00:45:54,027 He's here. 829 00:45:56,374 --> 00:45:59,101 [deep breathing] 830 00:46:00,585 --> 00:46:03,036 [door creaking] 831 00:46:03,070 --> 00:46:04,106 - Thank you. - Yeah. 832 00:46:06,177 --> 00:46:07,005 Excuse me. 833 00:46:23,090 --> 00:46:25,403 - We did not take your phone, by the way. 834 00:46:25,437 --> 00:46:26,645 I want you to know that. 835 00:46:27,715 --> 00:46:32,720 But, we do need to make sure 836 00:46:34,032 --> 00:46:36,932 that everything that you have, we also have. 837 00:46:38,243 --> 00:46:39,555 It's very important. 838 00:46:40,728 --> 00:46:44,111 It is the reason why we are, let's face it, 839 00:46:44,146 --> 00:46:45,768 we're paying for the documentary. 840 00:46:50,393 --> 00:46:53,224 - Well, [clears throat] all right. 841 00:46:53,258 --> 00:46:54,363 I understand. 842 00:46:57,021 --> 00:46:59,126 I don't mean to keep anything from you. 843 00:47:00,714 --> 00:47:03,372 So I think that there's something that you guys should see. 844 00:47:05,753 --> 00:47:06,720 I'll be right back. 845 00:47:12,277 --> 00:47:14,555 - What do you think he has? 846 00:47:14,590 --> 00:47:17,420 Did he tell you about anything? 847 00:47:17,455 --> 00:47:20,078 - [Brett] That was super awkward. 848 00:47:20,113 --> 00:47:22,632 - This is the stuff that we need. 849 00:47:22,667 --> 00:47:24,427 We've got to have it. 850 00:47:35,611 --> 00:47:37,613 - This is my me and my dad. 851 00:47:38,545 --> 00:47:39,649 I was eight years old. 852 00:47:40,996 --> 00:47:44,240 It was our last trip. 853 00:47:44,275 --> 00:47:45,966 And the last time I really saw him. 854 00:47:53,008 --> 00:47:54,664 The other night. 855 00:47:54,699 --> 00:47:55,665 This is... 856 00:47:57,529 --> 00:47:58,876 I took a picture of this. 857 00:48:00,118 --> 00:48:01,671 And you can see if you look, 858 00:48:01,706 --> 00:48:05,192 you can see that's the same shirt. 859 00:48:06,193 --> 00:48:07,574 You can see that pattern. 860 00:48:09,576 --> 00:48:10,439 Right there. 861 00:48:11,612 --> 00:48:12,890 - I don't know if I can really see anything. 862 00:48:12,924 --> 00:48:14,236 Sean, I'm sorry. - Look. 863 00:48:14,270 --> 00:48:15,202 Look on this. 864 00:48:15,237 --> 00:48:17,032 I mean, I'm not lying. 865 00:48:19,068 --> 00:48:21,174 Look, I mean, it's right there. 866 00:48:21,208 --> 00:48:22,416 That's the same. 867 00:48:23,521 --> 00:48:25,316 I mean, maybe Chanell, can you see? 868 00:48:25,350 --> 00:48:27,732 I mean, right there. Do you see it? 869 00:48:27,766 --> 00:48:31,046 - I see something. I just don't. 870 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:35,015 - He's been. It's him. 871 00:48:38,501 --> 00:48:42,367 - After we found that footage 872 00:48:42,402 --> 00:48:46,095 and after we sort of confronted him about it, 873 00:48:47,994 --> 00:48:52,377 he was, hellbent 874 00:48:52,412 --> 00:48:55,242 to try to persuade us that that was his father 875 00:48:55,277 --> 00:48:57,141 in those photos. 876 00:48:58,659 --> 00:48:59,937 It was something. 877 00:49:01,248 --> 00:49:03,871 But again, that was the nature of being there. 878 00:49:03,906 --> 00:49:06,564 You got certain stuff that was just unbelievable. 879 00:49:06,598 --> 00:49:08,704 You couldn't believe you got it. 880 00:49:08,738 --> 00:49:11,086 And then you were two layers removed 881 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,709 because, and we discussed this, 882 00:49:13,743 --> 00:49:17,126 the DSLRs wouldn't work all of a sudden, handheld devices, 883 00:49:17,161 --> 00:49:18,645 phones wouldn't work all of a sudden, 884 00:49:18,679 --> 00:49:20,750 and then you're forced to take Polaroids. 885 00:49:20,785 --> 00:49:23,236 And, you know, that's the nature of the beast 886 00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:24,513 when it comes to stuff like that. 887 00:49:24,547 --> 00:49:29,000 It's technology that it's very difficult 888 00:49:29,035 --> 00:49:31,623 to use as far as proof. 889 00:49:33,591 --> 00:49:34,419 He believed it. 890 00:50:53,464 --> 00:50:56,536 - You know, in looking at the Sean Miller case, 891 00:50:56,570 --> 00:50:59,815 we have to be very, very careful when we check the evidence. 892 00:50:59,849 --> 00:51:02,714 We are in a day and age where it's very easy 893 00:51:02,749 --> 00:51:05,269 to manipulate your evidence. 894 00:51:05,303 --> 00:51:09,066 So analyzing becomes very important. 895 00:51:13,104 --> 00:51:15,244 - [Interviewer] This has happened more than once, 896 00:51:15,279 --> 00:51:16,763 not once, but twice, 897 00:51:16,797 --> 00:51:19,766 Sean, withholding footage from you and now Brett, 898 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,457 he's withholding footage from you. 899 00:51:24,702 --> 00:51:29,534 - I think after we saw the footage 900 00:51:29,569 --> 00:51:31,605 that Sean had withheld from us. 901 00:51:34,505 --> 00:51:39,475 I think Brett's perspective on why we were there 902 00:51:40,649 --> 00:51:45,171 and why he was there, changed greatly. 903 00:51:45,205 --> 00:51:47,863 [pensive music] 904 00:52:12,957 --> 00:52:16,202 - [Brett] [exhaling] It's 2:32 a.m. 905 00:52:18,756 --> 00:52:21,931 I just fucking got woke up by this loud ass sound 906 00:52:23,554 --> 00:52:24,796 coming outside. 907 00:52:24,831 --> 00:52:27,178 I don't know what it is. It's bizarre. 908 00:52:28,697 --> 00:52:31,907 But it just keeps getting fuckin' louder and louder. 909 00:52:33,736 --> 00:52:36,601 And I've been up for about five minutes. 910 00:52:36,636 --> 00:52:38,396 Everyone's asleep in the house. 911 00:52:40,536 --> 00:52:41,330 [strange sound] 912 00:52:41,365 --> 00:52:42,159 Holy shit. 913 00:52:44,575 --> 00:52:45,645 That's the sound I'm talking about. 914 00:52:45,679 --> 00:52:47,060 You fucking hear that? 915 00:52:48,889 --> 00:52:50,926 [strange sound] 916 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,859 What the fuck was that? 917 00:52:57,174 --> 00:52:58,554 I got up, I grabbed my phone 918 00:52:58,589 --> 00:53:00,591 because I don't want to miss any footage. 919 00:53:01,833 --> 00:53:03,318 I'm going to try to get a peek out the window 920 00:53:03,352 --> 00:53:06,804 and see if I can figure out what is making this sound. 921 00:53:14,605 --> 00:53:18,091 [Brett breathing heavily] 922 00:53:21,232 --> 00:53:22,095 Oh, fuck. 923 00:53:24,062 --> 00:53:28,998 Dude, there's someone outside, just fucking standing there. 924 00:53:34,487 --> 00:53:37,731 I don't want to fucking be here right now. 925 00:53:37,766 --> 00:53:39,216 There should be no one here. 926 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,460 What the fuck is going on? 927 00:53:43,565 --> 00:53:46,395 [strange sound] Holy shit! 928 00:53:46,430 --> 00:53:49,329 [thudding on roof] 929 00:53:52,401 --> 00:53:55,404 Someone just fucking came running at the door 930 00:53:55,439 --> 00:53:57,303 and fucking jumped on the roof. 931 00:53:59,857 --> 00:54:01,341 And it fuckin' looked like me. 932 00:54:03,619 --> 00:54:05,587 What the fuck is going on right now? 933 00:54:08,072 --> 00:54:08,866 Holy shit. 934 00:54:13,008 --> 00:54:15,838 - My name is James Chandler, and I'm 54 years old 935 00:54:15,873 --> 00:54:18,151 and I'm an audio visual specialist. 936 00:54:18,185 --> 00:54:19,842 I've been hired to look into things 937 00:54:19,877 --> 00:54:21,223 where video has been edited 938 00:54:22,431 --> 00:54:24,675 or to see if someone has faked something. 939 00:54:26,297 --> 00:54:28,886 I was not expecting what I saw. 940 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:33,028 I don't think if it was faked that my emotional response, 941 00:54:33,062 --> 00:54:35,202 I mean, I've seen a lot of video. 942 00:54:35,237 --> 00:54:37,895 I've seen really horrible things on video. 943 00:54:37,929 --> 00:54:42,900 That is something that just got a hold of something in me, 944 00:54:44,867 --> 00:54:46,697 and I can't explain it. 945 00:54:46,731 --> 00:54:49,631 [foreboding music] 946 00:55:01,298 --> 00:55:03,369 - [Ash] Thank you. I appreciate it. 947 00:55:03,403 --> 00:55:04,646 [Stacey chuckling] 948 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,061 - Hey. - Hey, baby. 949 00:55:06,095 --> 00:55:09,098 - Hey, you. What do you have on you? 950 00:55:09,133 --> 00:55:10,237 What is this? 951 00:55:12,826 --> 00:55:14,345 - Oh, no. 952 00:55:14,380 --> 00:55:16,174 - Sean. - What? It's nothing. 953 00:55:16,209 --> 00:55:17,762 - What do you mean? 954 00:55:19,385 --> 00:55:21,939 [static buzzes] 955 00:55:21,973 --> 00:55:24,044 - [Chanell] What did he have on him? 956 00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:25,632 - [Stacey] Something black. 957 00:55:25,667 --> 00:55:28,048 Something really dark out of his ear. 958 00:55:31,707 --> 00:55:33,640 - As I'm driving, I've got the window down. 959 00:55:33,675 --> 00:55:34,883 Like I said, it was extreme. 960 00:55:34,917 --> 00:55:36,160 Like I told you before, 961 00:55:36,194 --> 00:55:39,197 it was extremely hot that summer, you know. 962 00:55:39,232 --> 00:55:41,683 But instead of kicking the AC on, I felt like maybe 963 00:55:41,717 --> 00:55:46,688 just getting that nice like wind, the smell of the grass, 964 00:55:47,689 --> 00:55:50,554 the smell of the farm soil. 965 00:55:50,588 --> 00:55:53,660 I thought that might help kind of clear my head. 966 00:55:53,695 --> 00:55:57,319 And so, you know, I'm driving down the country roads. 967 00:55:57,354 --> 00:55:58,803 I feel like I'm on the right way. 968 00:55:58,838 --> 00:56:01,392 I've got my hand on the steering wheel 969 00:56:01,427 --> 00:56:03,670 and I'm just kind of get my head out 970 00:56:03,705 --> 00:56:08,468 and I'm just feeling it blow and I'm looking out 971 00:56:08,503 --> 00:56:12,472 and I see, you know, on the field I could see fireflies, 972 00:56:12,507 --> 00:56:14,716 you know, which is common at that time of year. 973 00:56:14,750 --> 00:56:16,269 You could see them move around. 974 00:56:19,514 --> 00:56:20,998 And then I realized that they're not, 975 00:56:21,032 --> 00:56:24,829 like I realize that some of these are pacing the car. 976 00:56:27,867 --> 00:56:30,594 And at first I'm like, oh drunk brain, you know, 977 00:56:30,628 --> 00:56:32,837 just perception being off. 978 00:56:32,872 --> 00:56:35,012 It's dark. I'm tired. 979 00:56:35,046 --> 00:56:36,185 I'm upset. 980 00:56:39,085 --> 00:56:42,226 There was less lights at first. 981 00:56:42,260 --> 00:56:44,504 Just certain ones chasing me. 982 00:56:44,539 --> 00:56:49,267 And then I felt like I wasn't alone. 983 00:56:49,302 --> 00:56:51,615 It felt like something was almost 984 00:56:51,649 --> 00:56:52,650 whispering to me like that. 985 00:56:52,685 --> 00:56:54,203 So the pressure that, like. 986 00:56:54,238 --> 00:56:57,862 Like that sound was, like, pulling me... 987 00:56:57,897 --> 00:56:59,174 Like somebody was controlling my body 988 00:56:59,208 --> 00:57:00,347 to pull me in a different direction. 989 00:57:00,382 --> 00:57:02,280 I realized very quickly that every time 990 00:57:02,315 --> 00:57:05,076 I wanted to go back home, to go back to my wife, 991 00:57:05,111 --> 00:57:07,734 to go back to bed and wake up the next morning 992 00:57:07,769 --> 00:57:11,566 and just hope this day goes away and I can start over fresh. 993 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,706 The more I kept being pulled somewhere else, 994 00:57:13,740 --> 00:57:16,329 and the more I fought against it, 995 00:57:16,363 --> 00:57:19,470 the stronger like the brighter the lights 996 00:57:19,505 --> 00:57:20,851 or the brighter the fireflies were. 997 00:57:20,885 --> 00:57:22,266 And I realized they weren't fireflies, 998 00:57:22,300 --> 00:57:25,511 they were these motes, these lights everywhere. 999 00:57:25,545 --> 00:57:29,515 And it was almost like, you know, I had the car radio 1000 00:57:29,549 --> 00:57:31,206 started getting loud almost to the point 1001 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,588 where it's like high pitched and I shut it off. 1002 00:57:33,622 --> 00:57:36,245 I couldn't deal with, it was sensory overload. 1003 00:57:37,419 --> 00:57:38,696 And I'm just driving through the dark, 1004 00:57:38,731 --> 00:57:39,732 but it's not dark anymore. 1005 00:57:39,766 --> 00:57:40,974 It's so bright. 1006 00:57:41,009 --> 00:57:42,424 It's brighter than any daylight I've ever seen. 1007 00:57:42,459 --> 00:57:45,151 And I feel like as I'm zipping down these roads, 1008 00:57:45,185 --> 00:57:46,670 I'm going so fast, 1009 00:57:46,704 --> 00:57:48,326 I don't even know if I'm even on the road anymore. 1010 00:57:48,361 --> 00:57:51,019 I can't tell what's up or down anymore. 1011 00:57:51,053 --> 00:57:52,227 I'm just going. 1012 00:58:02,996 --> 00:58:05,171 - Were you ever afraid for your own personal safety. 1013 00:58:05,205 --> 00:58:07,829 - Yes. Yes. 1014 00:58:07,863 --> 00:58:10,383 - Yours and the crew? - Everyone's. 1015 00:58:10,417 --> 00:58:13,006 Everyone's. We were afraid for my safety. 1016 00:58:13,041 --> 00:58:15,043 Especially Ash's safety. 1017 00:58:16,769 --> 00:58:20,393 Sean, Stacey, Brett. Everyone. 1018 00:58:36,616 --> 00:58:37,824 - [Woman] I can go talk to her if you want. 1019 00:58:37,859 --> 00:58:39,757 - [Sean] You like the burger, man? 1020 00:58:39,792 --> 00:58:42,242 - Well, I will say, you made sure it was dead. 1021 00:58:42,277 --> 00:58:43,589 - Drew, could you stop? 1022 00:58:43,623 --> 00:58:46,281 - Well, I mean- - Everything's fine. 1023 00:58:47,593 --> 00:58:50,112 - I mean, did you at least call Dave today? 1024 00:58:50,147 --> 00:58:52,183 - No. - Here we go. 1025 00:58:52,218 --> 00:58:53,460 - I didn't call Dave. 1026 00:58:53,495 --> 00:58:55,221 - How many of these do I have to set up? 1027 00:58:55,255 --> 00:58:58,017 I'm trying real fucking hard 1028 00:58:58,051 --> 00:59:00,122 to get you going to set you up. 1029 00:59:00,157 --> 00:59:01,089 No, man, really. 1030 00:59:02,642 --> 00:59:04,886 - I want to be able to just have you guys over 1031 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,163 and have a good time. 1032 00:59:07,267 --> 00:59:09,580 - Yeah. I can't fucking do this anymore. 1033 00:59:09,615 --> 00:59:10,650 - Drew sit down! 1034 00:59:10,685 --> 00:59:12,859 - No. - Come on. 1035 00:59:12,894 --> 00:59:14,136 - Nice. 1036 00:59:14,171 --> 00:59:16,000 - Can't I even go to the bathroom? 1037 00:59:16,035 --> 00:59:17,312 My God. 1038 00:59:17,346 --> 00:59:18,382 - We have a bathroom right in there, man. 1039 00:59:18,416 --> 00:59:20,833 Oh, my God. 10 feet away. 1040 00:59:20,867 --> 00:59:22,213 - Just stop. 1041 00:59:22,248 --> 00:59:23,732 - [Chanell] Should I turn the camera away 1042 00:59:23,767 --> 00:59:24,837 from the peeing guy? 1043 00:59:27,978 --> 00:59:29,462 - He's been a mess for a week now. 1044 00:59:29,496 --> 00:59:31,878 I don't know what's wrong 1045 00:59:31,913 --> 00:59:33,915 - I'm sorry. I did try calling him. 1046 00:59:33,949 --> 00:59:35,399 It just didn't work out. 1047 00:59:35,433 --> 00:59:37,504 - We just need to change the subject. 1048 00:59:37,539 --> 00:59:39,783 No more talk about it. 1049 00:59:39,817 --> 00:59:41,647 Drew, what are you doing? 1050 00:59:41,681 --> 00:59:42,889 - What's going on? 1051 00:59:42,924 --> 00:59:44,960 - You guys see that fucking guy out there? 1052 00:59:44,995 --> 00:59:46,410 - [Stacey] Who? 1053 00:59:46,444 --> 00:59:47,549 - Could you stop, there's nothing out there. 1054 00:59:47,584 --> 00:59:48,757 - No, I was just taking a fucking piss, 1055 00:59:48,792 --> 00:59:50,897 and I see this guy out there, 1056 00:59:50,932 --> 00:59:52,692 he's like, fucking staring at us. 1057 00:59:52,727 --> 00:59:55,281 - There's nothing out there. - He's probably just a farmer. 1058 00:59:55,315 --> 00:59:56,213 This is farmland. 1059 00:59:56,247 --> 00:59:58,456 And it's probably just a farmer- 1060 00:59:58,491 --> 01:00:00,148 - You've had a lot to drink. 1061 01:00:00,182 --> 01:00:02,426 - Yeah, I always have a fucking lot to drink. 1062 01:00:03,496 --> 01:00:04,739 This guy's staring at you. 1063 01:00:04,773 --> 01:00:06,326 He's staring at you, he's staring at you. 1064 01:00:06,361 --> 01:00:09,019 - Drew, dude, honestly, he's not going to bother us. 1065 01:00:09,053 --> 01:00:11,469 Just come and sit down, we'll have a drink together. 1066 01:00:11,504 --> 01:00:13,195 Just eat some more burgers. 1067 01:00:13,230 --> 01:00:15,819 Man, we're gonna fill up, it's gonna be nice. 1068 01:00:15,853 --> 01:00:17,890 Don't worry about that guy. 1069 01:00:17,924 --> 01:00:19,546 - It's okay. 1070 01:00:19,581 --> 01:00:21,548 - It's no big deal. - Stop, honey. 1071 01:00:21,583 --> 01:00:22,791 - There's no big deal. 1072 01:00:22,826 --> 01:00:24,068 - No, fuck dude. I'm going over there. 1073 01:00:24,103 --> 01:00:25,242 - Drew, don't. 1074 01:00:25,276 --> 01:00:26,519 - I'm going out there. 1075 01:00:26,553 --> 01:00:28,072 [everyone speaking at the same time] 1076 01:00:28,107 --> 01:00:30,419 - He's not hurting anything if there is someone. 1077 01:00:30,454 --> 01:00:31,455 - [Ash] We should probably follow him over there. 1078 01:00:31,489 --> 01:00:32,801 - Stop, Drew. Come on. 1079 01:00:32,836 --> 01:00:33,906 - No! - Drew. 1080 01:00:33,940 --> 01:00:36,080 - Let him go. - I'm going. 1081 01:00:37,461 --> 01:00:39,739 I'm going. - Go around the barn. 1082 01:00:39,774 --> 01:00:42,086 If you're gonna go over there 1083 01:00:42,121 --> 01:00:45,642 and get yourself fucking arrested, asshole. 1084 01:00:55,962 --> 01:00:56,894 - [Ash] Okay. Somebody does need to get cameras on. 1085 01:00:56,929 --> 01:00:58,447 There is somebody out there. 1086 01:00:59,656 --> 01:01:01,002 There is somebody out there. 1087 01:01:04,453 --> 01:01:06,732 - [Drew] Hey man, what's up? 1088 01:01:08,803 --> 01:01:10,011 What's up dude. 1089 01:01:12,565 --> 01:01:14,325 - [Ash] Did you see that? Did you see that? 1090 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,950 [Drew speaks indistinctly] 1091 01:01:22,230 --> 01:01:23,058 The fuck. 1092 01:01:25,785 --> 01:01:27,960 You guys, by the way, nobody go out there, okay? 1093 01:01:32,758 --> 01:01:33,966 When also Sean and Stacey told us 1094 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:35,761 that this is also not their land. 1095 01:01:35,795 --> 01:01:37,659 What the fuck is that? 1096 01:01:40,075 --> 01:01:40,938 Is he coming back? 1097 01:01:50,810 --> 01:01:53,123 Where the fuck's the other guy at? 1098 01:01:54,331 --> 01:01:56,057 Is anybody catching the other fucking person 1099 01:01:56,091 --> 01:01:57,334 on their camera? 1100 01:01:57,368 --> 01:01:58,576 Could someone please fucking answer me? 1101 01:01:58,611 --> 01:02:01,165 - [Chanell] I don't see the other guy. 1102 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:02,477 - [Ash] I'm not seeing a goddamn thing out there. 1103 01:02:02,511 --> 01:02:04,410 Where the fuck did the other guy go? 1104 01:02:05,825 --> 01:02:06,792 Did he fucking punch him? 1105 01:02:06,826 --> 01:02:08,034 Is he laying down there? 1106 01:02:08,069 --> 01:02:09,726 - [Chanell] Drew, where's the other guy? 1107 01:02:14,109 --> 01:02:15,593 - [Brett] You okay? 1108 01:02:15,628 --> 01:02:18,700 - [Ash] I don't know what's going on. 1109 01:02:21,772 --> 01:02:23,153 Okay. Something's not right. 1110 01:02:25,914 --> 01:02:26,743 Drew? 1111 01:02:27,778 --> 01:02:29,504 You know where you're at? 1112 01:02:29,538 --> 01:02:31,609 You know what? You need to go get Tasha now. 1113 01:02:31,644 --> 01:02:32,507 Now. 1114 01:02:32,541 --> 01:02:34,129 - [Chanelle] Tasha! 1115 01:02:39,928 --> 01:02:42,206 - You know, it's weird because 1116 01:02:42,241 --> 01:02:44,588 you have some of these things on video. 1117 01:02:44,622 --> 01:02:47,729 We have some of these things that we recorded. 1118 01:02:48,868 --> 01:02:52,354 And in my mind's eye, my mind's eye, 1119 01:02:52,389 --> 01:02:57,394 it's so sort of hazy that... 1120 01:02:58,602 --> 01:03:01,294 you almost have to try to remember the footage 1121 01:03:02,675 --> 01:03:06,713 more so than your memory, which is strange, 1122 01:03:06,748 --> 01:03:10,890 and I think it's because it's just so bizarre. 1123 01:03:10,925 --> 01:03:15,481 Yeah, there was very clearly there was a figure there. 1124 01:03:19,347 --> 01:03:22,660 And then there wasn't and we all three saw it. 1125 01:03:22,695 --> 01:03:27,665 We all three were experiencing the same thing. 1126 01:03:33,085 --> 01:03:34,155 I can't explain it. 1127 01:03:38,745 --> 01:03:41,231 Drew. We need to know if you're okay. 1128 01:03:41,265 --> 01:03:42,059 Hey Drew. 1129 01:03:43,026 --> 01:03:44,682 Drew. 1130 01:03:44,717 --> 01:03:46,201 Can we talk about what happened up there? 1131 01:03:46,236 --> 01:03:50,240 Because I'm not seeing the other guy out there at all. 1132 01:03:50,274 --> 01:03:52,276 And I'm afraid that you did something. 1133 01:03:54,106 --> 01:03:56,936 We need to know because we've got this all on camera. 1134 01:03:56,971 --> 01:04:00,491 No, no, no, no, no, no. 1135 01:04:00,526 --> 01:04:03,080 You need to calm down. 1136 01:04:03,115 --> 01:04:07,533 You need to calm down and tell us what happened out there. 1137 01:04:07,567 --> 01:04:10,916 Please calm down and tell us what happened. 1138 01:04:10,950 --> 01:04:11,744 - Drew! 1139 01:04:13,263 --> 01:04:14,471 He's scaring me. 1140 01:04:14,505 --> 01:04:15,990 Drew, you're scaring me. 1141 01:04:16,024 --> 01:04:17,577 - [Brett] Can we at least just get him up over here. Okay. 1142 01:04:17,612 --> 01:04:19,131 - [Tasha] Stop it. Just relax. 1143 01:04:21,374 --> 01:04:24,032 - What the fuck is going on? - Please stop. 1144 01:04:24,067 --> 01:04:25,275 - [Ash] Steady your breathing. 1145 01:04:25,309 --> 01:04:28,312 - [Tasha] Drew you're fucking scaring me. 1146 01:04:28,347 --> 01:04:30,418 - [Sean] Tasha, I'm calling the cops. 1147 01:04:30,452 --> 01:04:32,385 - You know he has a warrant! 1148 01:04:32,420 --> 01:04:33,559 - [Sean] He needs help. 1149 01:04:33,593 --> 01:04:34,353 - [Stacey] We can't call the cops. 1150 01:04:34,387 --> 01:04:36,320 - You can't do that. 1151 01:04:36,355 --> 01:04:37,494 Stop, Drew. 1152 01:04:37,528 --> 01:04:39,116 - Okay, okay, okay. - Help him! 1153 01:04:39,151 --> 01:04:40,531 - Okay, okay. - Oh, my God. 1154 01:04:41,463 --> 01:04:44,052 Oh, my God. [Drew coughing] 1155 01:04:44,087 --> 01:04:45,088 Oh, Jesus Christ. 1156 01:04:46,296 --> 01:04:48,954 - Oh. Oh, my God. 1157 01:04:48,988 --> 01:04:50,196 - [Brett] What? What the fuck? 1158 01:04:50,231 --> 01:04:51,853 - [Chanell] All right. Why is it? 1159 01:04:51,888 --> 01:04:54,131 What's up with the color? 1160 01:04:54,166 --> 01:04:55,512 - Are you okay? - Oh, my God. 1161 01:04:55,546 --> 01:04:58,687 [Drew grunting] 1162 01:04:58,722 --> 01:05:03,002 - I don't know how to explain... 1163 01:05:06,350 --> 01:05:09,836 how I know it's real. 1164 01:05:09,871 --> 01:05:14,393 - So, there's no doubt in your mind right now. 1165 01:05:14,427 --> 01:05:17,603 - There's no doubt. No doubt at all. 1166 01:05:17,637 --> 01:05:20,295 [ominous music] 1167 01:05:43,008 --> 01:05:47,460 - What's up man, I didn't even see you come out. 1168 01:05:47,495 --> 01:05:48,323 Ash? 1169 01:06:33,782 --> 01:06:34,611 Ash? 1170 01:06:39,340 --> 01:06:40,168 Ash? 1171 01:06:49,695 --> 01:06:52,215 - [Interviewer] Why do you think that Brett 1172 01:06:52,249 --> 01:06:54,493 didn't show you these videos? 1173 01:06:55,873 --> 01:07:00,844 - I think Brett's experience was very different 1174 01:07:02,432 --> 01:07:06,056 from my experience and from Chanell's experience. 1175 01:07:07,506 --> 01:07:12,407 And, I think Brett was going through 1176 01:07:13,167 --> 01:07:14,720 something very personal. 1177 01:07:17,343 --> 01:07:20,967 Something very specific and singular. 1178 01:07:21,002 --> 01:07:23,591 [somber music] 1179 01:07:36,914 --> 01:07:39,262 - No. No. 1180 01:07:40,608 --> 01:07:41,954 These things? 1181 01:07:41,988 --> 01:07:43,507 Well, let me make something abundantly clear. 1182 01:07:43,542 --> 01:07:46,269 These things were not human. 1183 01:07:46,303 --> 01:07:49,720 They were not of this Earth, of this planet. 1184 01:07:50,963 --> 01:07:53,621 What they wanted me to see. 1185 01:07:56,072 --> 01:08:00,006 It's like an actor, when you're watching a show, 1186 01:08:00,041 --> 01:08:02,768 you see an actor break character, 1187 01:08:02,802 --> 01:08:05,633 whether it's like a skit comedy or just 1188 01:08:05,667 --> 01:08:08,222 behind the scenes on like a movie. 1189 01:08:08,256 --> 01:08:10,500 And you see them break character for a second, 1190 01:08:10,534 --> 01:08:14,193 you're pull away, you're pulled out of the moment 1191 01:08:14,228 --> 01:08:16,575 that they're trying to bring to you, 1192 01:08:16,609 --> 01:08:18,715 whether it's comedy or drama or whatever. 1193 01:08:18,749 --> 01:08:19,957 You're pulled out of that moment. 1194 01:08:19,992 --> 01:08:22,339 You realize that it's fake. It's a facade. 1195 01:08:23,823 --> 01:08:28,242 That facade, these faces of these people that I'm seeing. 1196 01:08:34,938 --> 01:08:39,874 They were real people for me at first. 1197 01:08:39,908 --> 01:08:42,394 It was something for me to hold on to as an anchor. 1198 01:08:44,706 --> 01:08:48,365 And it was a way for me to feel safe. 1199 01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:52,887 And then for a brief moment, that facade dropped. 1200 01:08:52,921 --> 01:08:55,338 And I was completely ... 1201 01:08:56,477 --> 01:08:57,926 my mind can't even comprehend 1202 01:08:57,961 --> 01:09:00,032 the horror that you would see, 1203 01:09:00,066 --> 01:09:03,587 the ability for life around me to be distorted, 1204 01:09:03,622 --> 01:09:06,452 my safety to crumble around me. 1205 01:09:06,487 --> 01:09:09,455 And what I saw. 1206 01:09:09,490 --> 01:09:11,699 The more I hold on to that and the more they realize 1207 01:09:11,733 --> 01:09:12,803 that I was holding on to that, 1208 01:09:12,838 --> 01:09:14,978 the more they ripped that away, 1209 01:09:15,012 --> 01:09:18,430 and the less I can even remember now. 1210 01:09:19,672 --> 01:09:24,401 I feel insane thinking that these things 1211 01:09:24,436 --> 01:09:28,025 were anything but just a bad memory. 1212 01:09:32,444 --> 01:09:37,414 It's like, losing pieces of myself. 1213 01:10:06,167 --> 01:10:08,031 - [Ash] Okay. Now, this is looking pretty good. 1214 01:10:09,343 --> 01:10:11,103 So if you could please give us your name, 1215 01:10:11,137 --> 01:10:13,761 your age, and your occupation, please. 1216 01:10:13,795 --> 01:10:15,280 - My name is Brenda Floyd. 1217 01:10:15,314 --> 01:10:19,698 I'm 53 years old and I am a regression therapist. 1218 01:10:19,732 --> 01:10:22,183 In addition to being a shamanic minister, 1219 01:10:22,218 --> 01:10:25,773 a Reiki practitioner and a breathwork facilitator. 1220 01:10:26,946 --> 01:10:28,154 - [Ash] You work with people 1221 01:10:28,189 --> 01:10:29,363 who are trying to remember things 1222 01:10:29,397 --> 01:10:32,124 that obviously are very painful for them. 1223 01:10:32,158 --> 01:10:36,024 Can you speak a little bit about your experiences there? 1224 01:10:36,059 --> 01:10:39,752 - Well, in my experience, when people have blocks like that, 1225 01:10:39,787 --> 01:10:43,929 it is due to some sort of trauma in their life. 1226 01:10:43,963 --> 01:10:45,448 It can be from childhood. 1227 01:10:45,482 --> 01:10:47,519 It can be from a past life. 1228 01:10:47,553 --> 01:10:49,452 It can be from current situations. 1229 01:10:49,486 --> 01:10:52,524 But it is usually some form of PTSD. 1230 01:11:01,498 --> 01:11:03,120 Want you to take a nice deep breath. 1231 01:11:07,401 --> 01:11:09,299 Just listen to my voice. 1232 01:11:11,750 --> 01:11:13,993 Wherever we go on this journey, you will be safe 1233 01:11:14,028 --> 01:11:16,099 if you just listen to my voice. 1234 01:11:18,481 --> 01:11:21,069 [gentle music] 1235 01:11:26,316 --> 01:11:29,457 Sean, I want you to think about a time 1236 01:11:31,079 --> 01:11:35,221 or remember a time in July of 2013. 1237 01:11:41,780 --> 01:11:43,368 - I don't want to. 1238 01:11:43,402 --> 01:11:44,990 - [Brenda] Why not? 1239 01:11:48,407 --> 01:11:49,270 - It hurts. 1240 01:11:51,548 --> 01:11:55,172 - [Brenda] Can you see anything, Sean? 1241 01:11:55,207 --> 01:11:56,760 Colors? Structures? 1242 01:12:02,628 --> 01:12:04,665 - It's hot. Humid inside. 1243 01:12:14,122 --> 01:12:18,403 - [Brenda] Are you alone? Are you with other people? 1244 01:12:19,990 --> 01:12:21,992 - [Ash] Just keep going. 1245 01:12:23,580 --> 01:12:25,133 - There's others. 1246 01:12:25,168 --> 01:12:25,996 Stacey. 1247 01:12:27,722 --> 01:12:28,792 Mostly myself. 1248 01:12:30,415 --> 01:12:31,519 - [Ash] I'm almost done. 1249 01:12:31,554 --> 01:12:33,245 Seriously, it's almost done... 1250 01:12:33,279 --> 01:12:36,904 - [Brenda] In mid-July. 2013, do remember where you were? 1251 01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,085 - [Ash] I got nothing. Dude, I'm out. 1252 01:12:47,086 --> 01:12:48,294 - [Brett] I'm out too. 1253 01:12:48,329 --> 01:12:50,158 [indistinct] 1254 01:12:50,193 --> 01:12:51,263 - [Sean] We're fighting. 1255 01:12:53,990 --> 01:12:54,818 Arguing. 1256 01:12:56,372 --> 01:12:57,511 - [Brenda] Do you remember 1257 01:12:57,545 --> 01:13:00,030 what you were arguing about, Sean? 1258 01:13:01,100 --> 01:13:04,725 - [exhales] Our time together. 1259 01:13:04,759 --> 01:13:06,382 She's mad. 1260 01:13:07,693 --> 01:13:09,385 We're not connecting. 1261 01:13:11,317 --> 01:13:12,111 Not like we were. 1262 01:13:13,354 --> 01:13:16,702 - [Brenda] Is there a reason for that Sean? 1263 01:13:20,672 --> 01:13:22,812 - They're the reason. 1264 01:13:22,846 --> 01:13:24,089 I blame myself. 1265 01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:32,235 [Brenda speaking indistinctly] 1266 01:13:32,269 --> 01:13:34,410 - [Ash] Chanell, I'm getting a strong breeze, 1267 01:13:34,444 --> 01:13:36,170 coming through here, you need to watch those candles. 1268 01:13:42,625 --> 01:13:43,488 - [Sean] We fight. 1269 01:13:46,767 --> 01:13:47,940 I leave.. 1270 01:13:47,975 --> 01:13:50,633 [static buzzes] 1271 01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:57,950 - [Brenda] Sean, can you tell me where you went? 1272 01:13:57,985 --> 01:13:59,504 - I, I left. 1273 01:13:59,538 --> 01:14:01,195 I don't know where I went. 1274 01:14:02,576 --> 01:14:05,682 - [Brenda] Can you look around and see where you are? 1275 01:14:05,717 --> 01:14:08,996 - There's lights. There's... 1276 01:14:09,030 --> 01:14:10,549 They're following me in the car. 1277 01:14:12,724 --> 01:14:14,484 - [Brenda] You're in your car driving. 1278 01:14:15,623 --> 01:14:17,314 - I think. 1279 01:14:18,384 --> 01:14:19,455 I can't tell. 1280 01:14:20,594 --> 01:14:22,112 I can't feel the wheel. 1281 01:14:22,147 --> 01:14:24,839 The lights are getting so bright. 1282 01:14:24,874 --> 01:14:25,840 - Can you look through the light? 1283 01:14:25,875 --> 01:14:27,186 - No. - See past the light. 1284 01:14:28,981 --> 01:14:30,362 - They don't want me to. 1285 01:14:30,396 --> 01:14:32,951 - Who's "they"? - I'm trying to. 1286 01:14:32,985 --> 01:14:34,504 - [Brenda] Who's "they" Sean? 1287 01:14:34,539 --> 01:14:37,024 - They don't want me to know. 1288 01:14:37,058 --> 01:14:38,819 - Can you look at their faces, Sean. 1289 01:14:41,891 --> 01:14:43,375 - No, they don't. 1290 01:14:44,859 --> 01:14:47,448 - [Brenda] Can you tell me what they look like Sean? 1291 01:14:49,795 --> 01:14:51,279 - I'll try to see, but. 1292 01:14:53,558 --> 01:14:55,560 - [Brenda] Show me their faces. 1293 01:14:55,594 --> 01:14:57,251 - They won't let me. 1294 01:14:59,046 --> 01:15:00,254 Ah! 1295 01:15:00,288 --> 01:15:01,600 - [Brenda] Try to relax Sean. Try to relax. 1296 01:15:01,635 --> 01:15:03,188 Take a deep breath. 1297 01:15:03,222 --> 01:15:04,500 You're okay. - There. 1298 01:15:04,534 --> 01:15:05,328 They're here. 1299 01:15:05,362 --> 01:15:08,400 [electronic distortion] 1300 01:15:08,434 --> 01:15:09,815 [Sean groans] 1301 01:15:09,850 --> 01:15:11,610 - [Brenda] What's wrong with him? 1302 01:15:11,645 --> 01:15:14,924 - [Ash] Keep going. Keep going, dude. 1303 01:15:14,958 --> 01:15:17,513 [Sean roaring] 1304 01:15:20,446 --> 01:15:21,240 Brenda. 1305 01:15:22,725 --> 01:15:23,726 Brenda, seriously. 1306 01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:25,106 Hey, hey, hey. 1307 01:15:25,141 --> 01:15:25,935 I just need you. 1308 01:15:25,969 --> 01:15:27,246 Just come inside. 1309 01:15:27,281 --> 01:15:28,593 Just sign a couple of consent forms. 1310 01:15:28,627 --> 01:15:30,215 - I don't know what the fuck that was, 1311 01:15:30,249 --> 01:15:31,630 but I'm fucking out of here. 1312 01:15:35,047 --> 01:15:36,842 - [Ash] Ahhh, fuck me. 1313 01:15:45,333 --> 01:15:48,854 - So looking back, Chanell, if you could have done anything 1314 01:15:48,889 --> 01:15:50,925 differently, what would you have changed? 1315 01:15:52,030 --> 01:15:53,652 - We would have left. 1316 01:15:53,687 --> 01:15:56,897 We would have left earlier or left before 1317 01:15:59,209 --> 01:16:03,455 the shit hit the fan, before, all of that happened, 1318 01:16:06,147 --> 01:16:07,355 we would have left. 1319 01:16:07,390 --> 01:16:11,981 We would have talked Ash into leaving 1320 01:16:12,015 --> 01:16:16,157 and not staying to get the best footage. 1321 01:16:20,023 --> 01:16:21,024 We would have left. 1322 01:16:22,232 --> 01:16:24,545 We would have all gotten to leave. 1323 01:16:25,995 --> 01:16:27,168 - [Interviewer] But then you wouldn't have had 1324 01:16:27,203 --> 01:16:28,791 what you have. 1325 01:16:28,825 --> 01:16:33,589 - And maybe we wouldn't have lost what we lost too. 1326 01:16:33,623 --> 01:16:36,177 [somber music] 1327 01:16:46,602 --> 01:16:51,572 - So that fifth day, we were just, it was a workhorse day. 1328 01:16:52,711 --> 01:16:54,817 I mean, it was all about like, we need to get 1329 01:16:54,851 --> 01:16:56,681 all the shots we didn't get. 1330 01:16:56,715 --> 01:16:59,200 We need to get any interview questions we didn't get. 1331 01:16:59,235 --> 01:17:00,788 So it was all about pick up, pick up, 1332 01:17:00,823 --> 01:17:03,204 pick up, pick up, all day long. 1333 01:17:03,239 --> 01:17:07,174 And I think we didn't even realize how late we were there. 1334 01:17:08,416 --> 01:17:11,557 And so we started to sort of break down. 1335 01:17:11,592 --> 01:17:16,528 And at that point, I think we also sort of realized 1336 01:17:17,909 --> 01:17:20,221 that we were there too late. 1337 01:17:20,256 --> 01:17:23,086 And I mean, we were all struck with that feeling. 1338 01:17:23,121 --> 01:17:25,226 It wasn't just that we were there late 1339 01:17:25,261 --> 01:17:27,435 and we were ready to take off. 1340 01:17:27,470 --> 01:17:29,506 We were there too late. 1341 01:17:33,234 --> 01:17:34,719 There's nothing that we don't know about, 1342 01:17:34,753 --> 01:17:36,203 nothing that we can't see. 1343 01:17:36,237 --> 01:17:38,930 - [Brett] I need the lights and I need the keys to the van. 1344 01:17:38,964 --> 01:17:40,414 - [Ash] Okay. 1345 01:17:40,448 --> 01:17:42,588 Do you want to go ahead and take that last bag out? 1346 01:17:42,623 --> 01:17:45,661 Put the lights and the rest of the lenses away. 1347 01:17:45,695 --> 01:17:46,903 - [Brett] All right. 1348 01:17:46,938 --> 01:17:49,319 I'll be back to get the rest of the shit. 1349 01:17:55,187 --> 01:17:56,637 - [Brett] Goddamn. 1350 01:17:56,672 --> 01:17:59,398 [speaks indistinctly] 1351 01:17:59,433 --> 01:18:02,332 [foreboding music] 1352 01:18:03,230 --> 01:18:06,198 [car doors opening] 1353 01:18:06,233 --> 01:18:09,063 [gear clattering] 1354 01:18:11,583 --> 01:18:13,378 What the fuck is that? 1355 01:18:26,702 --> 01:18:28,600 Hey, hey, hey. 1356 01:18:28,634 --> 01:18:30,291 Shut the lights off. 1357 01:18:32,708 --> 01:18:33,812 Is that on? 1358 01:18:33,847 --> 01:18:34,640 Is that on? 1359 01:18:34,675 --> 01:18:35,503 C'mere. 1360 01:18:38,644 --> 01:18:40,474 Come here. - What's up? 1361 01:18:41,682 --> 01:18:43,097 - [Ash] Can I at least turn my camera on? 1362 01:18:43,132 --> 01:18:46,929 [Brett speaking indistinctly] 1363 01:18:48,896 --> 01:18:50,173 - [Brett] What the fuck is out there? 1364 01:18:50,208 --> 01:18:52,831 You see that? - The lights on the horizon. 1365 01:18:52,866 --> 01:18:55,351 [indistinct whispering] 1366 01:18:55,385 --> 01:18:58,423 - [Ash] Okay, I have no fucking idea what that is. 1367 01:19:02,807 --> 01:19:04,878 I'm going to actually find the flashlight. 1368 01:19:07,294 --> 01:19:09,434 Do we know where the flashlight is? 1369 01:19:09,468 --> 01:19:11,022 We were going to find it earlier. 1370 01:19:12,540 --> 01:19:15,233 Course I'm going out there. 1371 01:19:15,267 --> 01:19:16,441 I've got a camera and I've got a flashlight. 1372 01:19:16,475 --> 01:19:18,581 So that's what I'm doing. 1373 01:19:21,377 --> 01:19:24,587 - [Chanelle] Can you just give me a minute? 1374 01:19:24,621 --> 01:19:26,520 - [Ash] I'm going out. 1375 01:19:26,554 --> 01:19:28,867 - No. Don't go out there. - Ash! Ash! 1376 01:19:28,902 --> 01:19:30,835 - [Ash] I'm going out. 1377 01:19:30,869 --> 01:19:33,769 [foreboding music] 1378 01:19:42,501 --> 01:19:46,264 - [Chanelle] I don't understand why he's gotta dive 1379 01:19:46,298 --> 01:19:47,955 right into these things. 1380 01:19:47,990 --> 01:19:52,166 - [Brett] What the fuck do you think that is? 1381 01:19:52,201 --> 01:19:53,133 Look at it! 1382 01:20:01,797 --> 01:20:02,625 See it? 1383 01:20:10,253 --> 01:20:13,981 [foreboding music continues] 1384 01:20:57,231 --> 01:20:58,474 - [Ash] Holy fucking shit. 1385 01:20:59,578 --> 01:21:02,719 Shit!. [being screams] 1386 01:21:11,314 --> 01:21:13,799 [Ash panting] 1387 01:21:16,354 --> 01:21:17,251 Oh, my God. 1388 01:21:20,945 --> 01:21:22,429 You gotta tell Stacey. 1389 01:21:22,463 --> 01:21:24,293 She's gotta call, she's got to call the fucking cops. 1390 01:21:24,327 --> 01:21:25,950 She's gotta to call 911. 1391 01:21:25,984 --> 01:21:27,744 She's got to do it now. - What is it? 1392 01:21:27,779 --> 01:21:30,333 - [Ash] She's got to do it now. 1393 01:21:31,817 --> 01:21:35,925 - [Interviewer] So tell me, Eric, this has been dubbed 1394 01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:39,584 or coined the alliteration of the Miller monster. 1395 01:21:39,618 --> 01:21:40,516 Do you know how? 1396 01:21:40,550 --> 01:21:43,001 Who started that? Do you know? 1397 01:21:43,036 --> 01:21:45,176 - I'm not sure where that came from. 1398 01:21:45,210 --> 01:21:48,282 Once the snippet came out and the face came out, 1399 01:21:48,317 --> 01:21:50,146 people started dubbing it the Miller Monster. 1400 01:21:50,181 --> 01:21:53,943 I'm not sure who exactly coined that phrase, 1401 01:21:53,978 --> 01:21:56,842 but it's it's been around for a little while now. 1402 01:21:58,292 --> 01:22:00,916 [pensive music] 1403 01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:12,858 - [Dispatcher] 911. What's your emergency? 1404 01:22:12,893 --> 01:22:15,378 - [Stacey] We need someone here immediately. 1405 01:22:15,413 --> 01:22:16,862 There are people there. 1406 01:22:16,897 --> 01:22:19,210 There's a lot of people trying to get into my house. 1407 01:22:19,244 --> 01:22:21,384 - [Dispatcher] Okay. How many people, ma'am? 1408 01:22:21,419 --> 01:22:22,661 - [Stacey] I don't know. 1409 01:22:22,696 --> 01:22:24,077 I don't know how many people there's just... 1410 01:22:24,111 --> 01:22:25,837 I don't know. 1411 01:22:25,871 --> 01:22:28,046 - [Dispatcher] Are they inside the house, ma'am. 1412 01:22:28,081 --> 01:22:29,806 - [Stacey] No. We have people inside the house, 1413 01:22:29,841 --> 01:22:30,842 there's about five of us. 1414 01:22:30,876 --> 01:22:32,257 You guys, where's Sean? 1415 01:22:32,292 --> 01:22:33,396 Where is Sean? 1416 01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:36,917 We need someone here. 1417 01:22:36,952 --> 01:22:38,643 - [Dispatcher] Okay, ma'am, 1418 01:22:38,677 --> 01:22:40,783 can you give me your address, ma'am? 1419 01:22:40,817 --> 01:22:41,749 - [Stacey] We're at [beep]. 1420 01:22:43,579 --> 01:22:44,787 - [Dispatcher] Okay, Ma'am. 1421 01:22:44,821 --> 01:22:46,064 I need you to stay on the line with me. 1422 01:22:46,099 --> 01:22:47,238 I need you to tell me what's going on. 1423 01:22:47,272 --> 01:22:48,446 - [Stacey] You guys, where is Sean? 1424 01:22:50,241 --> 01:22:53,451 - I've been looking outside, I don't know. 1425 01:22:53,485 --> 01:22:54,452 I don't know. 1426 01:22:54,486 --> 01:22:55,832 I don't know. 1427 01:22:55,867 --> 01:22:57,144 - [Stacey] What do you mean, you don't know? 1428 01:22:57,179 --> 01:22:58,801 - [Ash] Because we haven't seen him. 1429 01:22:58,835 --> 01:23:01,010 We thought he might have been outside. 1430 01:23:01,045 --> 01:23:03,185 I can't see- - There are people outside! 1431 01:23:03,219 --> 01:23:04,841 - [Ash] Brett, can you see anything? 1432 01:23:04,876 --> 01:23:06,464 - [Brett] No, I haven't. 1433 01:23:06,498 --> 01:23:08,466 - [Ash] So let's just get the doors locked. 1434 01:23:08,500 --> 01:23:10,399 - [Dispatcher] Ma'am, can you stay... 1435 01:23:10,433 --> 01:23:11,469 I need you to stay on the line with me. 1436 01:23:11,503 --> 01:23:12,608 Tell me what's going on. - It's okay. 1437 01:23:12,642 --> 01:23:14,023 I don't know. 1438 01:23:14,058 --> 01:23:15,404 When I look out the window, there's just lights. 1439 01:23:15,438 --> 01:23:16,853 There's lights. 1440 01:23:16,888 --> 01:23:18,683 - [Dispatcher] What kind of lights are there? 1441 01:23:18,717 --> 01:23:19,753 - [Stacey] They're bright. 1442 01:23:21,030 --> 01:23:22,687 - Okay. - But what is that noise? 1443 01:23:22,721 --> 01:23:24,792 There's people on my roof. 1444 01:23:24,827 --> 01:23:26,898 They're trying to get it in. 1445 01:23:26,932 --> 01:23:29,107 - [Dispatcher] Alright, ma'am, just stay calm. 1446 01:23:29,142 --> 01:23:30,833 I need you to stay calm, ma'am, alright? 1447 01:23:30,867 --> 01:23:32,145 - [Ash] So, they're not going outside. 1448 01:23:32,179 --> 01:23:33,525 - [Stacey] Then, I'm going outside. 1449 01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:34,768 - [Ash] You can't go outside. 1450 01:23:34,802 --> 01:23:35,562 - [Stacey] You have to let me go outside. 1451 01:23:35,596 --> 01:23:37,564 We have to get Sean! 1452 01:23:37,598 --> 01:23:39,014 - [Dispatcher] I need you to calm down ma'am. 1453 01:23:39,048 --> 01:23:41,464 I need you to stay on the phone with me, ma'am. 1454 01:23:41,499 --> 01:23:43,466 - [Stacey] We need help. 1455 01:23:44,743 --> 01:23:47,436 - I'm Paul Stenson, I'm 55. 1456 01:23:47,470 --> 01:23:48,954 I'm a retired sheriff's deputy 1457 01:23:48,989 --> 01:23:50,887 with [beep] sheriff's department. 1458 01:23:51,750 --> 01:23:54,581 I was there for 22 years. 1459 01:23:54,615 --> 01:23:57,239 And now I'm a man of leisure. 1460 01:24:02,278 --> 01:24:04,004 - [Interviewer] So you were called in that night 1461 01:24:04,039 --> 01:24:08,767 of the 911 call, here to the Miller residence, correct? 1462 01:24:08,802 --> 01:24:09,699 - That is correct. 1463 01:24:13,565 --> 01:24:15,015 - [Ash] That was a fucking window. 1464 01:24:15,050 --> 01:24:17,328 That was a window that just broke. 1465 01:24:17,362 --> 01:24:18,329 - [Stacey] Then I'm getting Sean. 1466 01:24:18,363 --> 01:24:19,502 I'm going outside. 1467 01:24:19,537 --> 01:24:20,952 - No, you cant do it. 1468 01:24:20,986 --> 01:24:25,370 [everyone speaks indistinctly] 1469 01:24:25,405 --> 01:24:26,337 - [Chanelle] No, no, you can't. 1470 01:24:26,371 --> 01:24:28,270 You need to stay inside. 1471 01:24:28,304 --> 01:24:30,237 - [Stacey] We have to get Sean. 1472 01:24:30,272 --> 01:24:32,274 - [Chanelle] You need to calm down. 1473 01:24:32,308 --> 01:24:33,861 - [Stacey] No, there is no calming down. 1474 01:24:33,896 --> 01:24:35,173 What don't you understand? 1475 01:24:36,278 --> 01:24:37,624 You guys need to get here. 1476 01:24:37,658 --> 01:24:40,730 No, I can't stay calm. 1477 01:24:40,765 --> 01:24:42,870 - [Dispatcher] I'm trying to help you ma'am. 1478 01:24:42,905 --> 01:24:44,872 - [Stacey] You guys, that was Sean. 1479 01:24:44,907 --> 01:24:48,013 - I need you to stay calm. - Do you hear him? 1480 01:24:48,048 --> 01:24:49,636 No, I'm going to go get him. 1481 01:24:49,670 --> 01:24:50,844 He's outside. 1482 01:24:50,878 --> 01:24:51,672 No I'm done. 1483 01:24:51,707 --> 01:24:52,673 I'm done. I'm going. 1484 01:24:52,708 --> 01:24:54,537 - [Chanell] No! No! Stacey! 1485 01:24:54,572 --> 01:24:57,540 No, no Stacey, you can't go! Stacey! 1486 01:24:58,576 --> 01:25:00,681 You can't go outside. 1487 01:25:00,716 --> 01:25:02,269 [everyone speaking at the same time] 1488 01:25:02,304 --> 01:25:03,581 - [Dispatcher] Is someone there? 1489 01:25:03,615 --> 01:25:05,030 - [Chanelle] Yeah, I'm here. 1490 01:25:05,065 --> 01:25:05,859 I'm here. 1491 01:25:05,893 --> 01:25:08,655 [Stacey screams] 1492 01:25:10,105 --> 01:25:14,350 She's on the ground. She's unconscious. 1493 01:25:14,385 --> 01:25:16,283 She touched the door- - Ambulance on the way. 1494 01:25:16,318 --> 01:25:17,802 - [Chanell] She touched the door 1495 01:25:17,836 --> 01:25:22,358 and then she flew across the room, and she's on the floor. 1496 01:25:23,532 --> 01:25:24,636 - [Dispatcher] I'll have ambulances. 1497 01:25:24,671 --> 01:25:26,949 I'll have an ambulance dispatched... 1498 01:25:28,261 --> 01:25:31,333 medical personnel are on the way. 1499 01:25:31,367 --> 01:25:32,575 We have several units in route. 1500 01:25:32,610 --> 01:25:34,267 - [Chanell] How long? 1501 01:25:34,301 --> 01:25:35,751 - [Dispatcher] Five minutes. 1502 01:25:35,785 --> 01:25:36,269 - [Chanell] Five minutes? He said they'll come in 5 minutes. 1503 01:25:38,340 --> 01:25:40,894 - We don't have 5 minutes. - We don't have a choice! 1504 01:25:40,928 --> 01:25:42,067 - [Chanell] Can you tell them to go faster? 1505 01:25:43,655 --> 01:25:44,863 - [Dispatcher] I cannot rush personnel. 1506 01:25:44,898 --> 01:25:48,971 They're going as fast as they're going, ma'am. 1507 01:25:49,005 --> 01:25:50,421 - I don't know what's going on. 1508 01:25:50,455 --> 01:25:53,976 They're outside and they've surrounded the house. 1509 01:25:54,010 --> 01:25:58,325 [everyone speaking at the same time] 1510 01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:01,156 And there's electric shocks coming out. 1511 01:26:01,190 --> 01:26:03,882 [people speaking indistinctly] 1512 01:26:03,917 --> 01:26:07,714 - [Dispather] I think I almost lost you ma'am. 1513 01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:10,751 [people speaking indistinctly] 1514 01:26:10,786 --> 01:26:12,581 - [Chanell] We need you here. 1515 01:26:12,615 --> 01:26:14,962 You need to be here. 1516 01:26:14,997 --> 01:26:17,689 [people speaking indistinctly] 1517 01:26:17,724 --> 01:26:18,621 No, and now he's going to go outside. 1518 01:26:18,656 --> 01:26:19,622 No, you can't go outside! 1519 01:26:19,657 --> 01:26:20,865 No, don't go outside. 1520 01:26:20,899 --> 01:26:22,280 - [Dispatcher] Don't let anybody go out there. 1521 01:26:22,315 --> 01:26:23,385 - [Chanell] Don't go outside. 1522 01:26:23,419 --> 01:26:26,111 They said don't go outside. 1523 01:26:26,146 --> 01:26:28,148 You can't go outside. No, no. 1524 01:26:28,183 --> 01:26:29,322 - [Brett] Then we'll go both go. 1525 01:26:29,356 --> 01:26:32,704 - [Chanell] No, neither of you will go. 1526 01:26:32,739 --> 01:26:33,981 You can't go outside. 1527 01:26:34,016 --> 01:26:35,500 - [Dispatcher] They need to stay in the house. 1528 01:26:35,535 --> 01:26:37,261 - [Chanell] They said you need to stay in the house. 1529 01:26:37,295 --> 01:26:39,884 - [Dispatcher] We need to be able to identify 1530 01:26:39,918 --> 01:26:41,713 who is a threat and who is not. 1531 01:26:41,748 --> 01:26:45,061 - You have to stay in because- - Ma'am, who are you? 1532 01:26:45,096 --> 01:26:47,340 - I'm Chanell, Chanell Hamilton. 1533 01:26:47,374 --> 01:26:51,689 - [Man] Okay, and how are you related to the caller? 1534 01:26:52,690 --> 01:26:54,450 - We're with the film crew. 1535 01:26:54,485 --> 01:26:58,627 We're filming a documentary about Stacey and Sean. 1536 01:27:00,387 --> 01:27:03,459 - [Man] Okay, and where did the caller go, ma'am? 1537 01:27:03,494 --> 01:27:06,945 - [Chanell] She tried to go outside to find Sean. 1538 01:27:06,980 --> 01:27:11,881 And then she touched the door and she flew across the room 1539 01:27:12,503 --> 01:27:14,263 She got pushed. 1540 01:27:14,298 --> 01:27:18,992 She, almost like there was electricity in the door handle. 1541 01:27:19,026 --> 01:27:22,478 [static buzzing] 1542 01:27:22,513 --> 01:27:25,516 - [Man] She needs medical attention as well. 1543 01:27:25,550 --> 01:27:26,965 - Chanell, get down! 1544 01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:30,969 - What else is going on- - They're on the fucking roof! 1545 01:27:31,004 --> 01:27:33,627 Dammit, Brett. I'm fucking sorry, man. 1546 01:27:33,662 --> 01:27:34,559 - Dude, don't be sorry. 1547 01:27:34,594 --> 01:27:35,733 I choose to fucking be here. 1548 01:27:35,767 --> 01:27:37,976 We're all here because we wanted to be. 1549 01:27:38,011 --> 01:27:40,013 - No, I'm fucking sorry. 1550 01:27:41,497 --> 01:27:43,050 This is a shit time to say it, 1551 01:27:43,085 --> 01:27:44,362 but I don't know when I'm gonna get a chance. 1552 01:27:44,397 --> 01:27:45,605 But I'm fucking sorry. 1553 01:27:45,639 --> 01:27:48,263 I am sorry that I didn't tell you 1554 01:27:50,195 --> 01:27:53,716 we fucking missed you, we missed you and Angie, 1555 01:27:53,751 --> 01:27:56,029 and we fucking miss David, too. 1556 01:27:56,063 --> 01:27:59,895 And I didn't say anything 'cause you were so goddamned hurt 1557 01:27:59,929 --> 01:28:02,794 and I should have because you needed to know 1558 01:28:02,829 --> 01:28:04,348 how much everybody loved them, 1559 01:28:04,382 --> 01:28:06,453 because you loved him so goddamned much. 1560 01:28:06,488 --> 01:28:09,422 But everybody loved him and Chanell and I loved him. 1561 01:28:09,456 --> 01:28:11,493 And goddamn it, I'm just fucking sorry 1562 01:28:11,527 --> 01:28:14,012 I didn't say anything earlier. 1563 01:28:16,291 --> 01:28:21,296 Brett just fucking left. Brett, goddamnit! 1564 01:28:22,435 --> 01:28:23,643 - [Chanell] Please don't go outside with him. 1565 01:28:23,677 --> 01:28:24,851 - [Ash] I gotta go. He may need help. 1566 01:28:24,885 --> 01:28:26,093 - Please don't go. - I gotta go. 1567 01:28:26,128 --> 01:28:28,095 - Ma'am, can you please keep all the personnel 1568 01:28:28,130 --> 01:28:29,890 in the house, please. 1569 01:28:29,925 --> 01:28:32,583 [static buzzes] 1570 01:28:36,794 --> 01:28:39,452 [ominous tones] 1571 01:28:41,143 --> 01:28:46,148 - [Ash] Brett!. 1572 01:28:49,462 --> 01:28:50,290 Oh God. 1573 01:28:53,362 --> 01:28:55,053 Oh Jesus, Brett! 1574 01:28:55,088 --> 01:28:55,916 Brett! 1575 01:28:56,952 --> 01:28:58,609 Brett! Grab my hand! 1576 01:28:59,989 --> 01:29:01,784 Grab my. I've got you. 1577 01:29:01,819 --> 01:29:03,268 Don't let go. 1578 01:29:03,303 --> 01:29:04,511 Don't let go! 1579 01:29:04,546 --> 01:29:05,719 Brett, you're slipping! 1580 01:29:05,754 --> 01:29:07,514 You're slipping! 1581 01:29:07,549 --> 01:29:09,274 It's okay! It's okay. 1582 01:29:15,211 --> 01:29:18,698 - [Dispatcher] Okay, ma'am you need to get them back inside. 1583 01:29:18,732 --> 01:29:21,356 Units should be there in the next minute, ma'am. 1584 01:29:22,460 --> 01:29:23,358 Status of units? 1585 01:29:23,392 --> 01:29:24,842 Where are the units in progress? 1586 01:29:25,843 --> 01:29:27,603 Ma'am? ma'am are you still there? 1587 01:29:28,846 --> 01:29:30,123 Ma'am are you still there? 1588 01:29:31,331 --> 01:29:32,608 I think I lost the call. 1589 01:29:33,851 --> 01:29:36,301 What are the status of units? 1590 01:29:36,336 --> 01:29:38,545 We need to send more back up. 1591 01:29:38,580 --> 01:29:40,685 No one is answering right now, 1592 01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:42,687 I'm going to try to call back. 1593 01:29:42,722 --> 01:29:45,380 [phone ringing] 1594 01:30:00,153 --> 01:30:02,189 I'm not getting anything. 1595 01:30:02,224 --> 01:30:03,328 It's just ringing. 1596 01:30:03,363 --> 01:30:04,433 I'm not getting anything. 1597 01:30:04,468 --> 01:30:06,124 No one's picking up. 1598 01:30:11,371 --> 01:30:12,855 - [Interviewer] You've been reported as saying 1599 01:30:12,890 --> 01:30:15,513 that there's never going to be a resolution to this case. 1600 01:30:15,548 --> 01:30:17,895 Is that still your position? 1601 01:30:17,929 --> 01:30:19,862 - I couldn't find anything 1602 01:30:19,897 --> 01:30:21,692 and I was the first one on the scene. 1603 01:30:25,178 --> 01:30:27,525 It defies rational explanation. 1604 01:30:34,359 --> 01:30:38,398 I can't even begin to comment on that. 1605 01:30:46,441 --> 01:30:48,477 - [Interviewer] Ash, I think it's important for us 1606 01:30:48,512 --> 01:30:51,860 to understand, what would you say to Brett's family? 1607 01:30:57,348 --> 01:31:02,318 - I talk, I try to talk to Brett's family. 1608 01:31:03,803 --> 01:31:08,014 I have tried numerous times to talk to Brett's family. 1609 01:31:08,048 --> 01:31:12,018 I have tried writing checks to Brett's family. 1610 01:31:13,468 --> 01:31:16,609 I would say the same thing that I would say to anybody else. 1611 01:31:18,576 --> 01:31:19,784 Brett was my best friend. 1612 01:31:20,958 --> 01:31:23,167 He's still my best friend. 1613 01:31:24,409 --> 01:31:26,204 He's always gonna be my best friend. 1614 01:31:27,343 --> 01:31:28,655 - [Interviewer] You seem emotional. 1615 01:31:31,624 --> 01:31:33,246 - I fucking want him back. 1616 01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:34,765 I want him back. 1617 01:31:34,799 --> 01:31:36,387 Why wouldn't I want him back? 1618 01:31:36,421 --> 01:31:38,182 Why wouldn't I want my best friend back? 1619 01:31:38,216 --> 01:31:39,666 I'm gonna get emotional. 1620 01:31:39,701 --> 01:31:42,669 I get emotional every time I think about Brett. 1621 01:31:42,704 --> 01:31:44,706 We had a conversation before we even went 1622 01:31:44,740 --> 01:31:46,673 into this documentary where I asked him 1623 01:31:46,708 --> 01:31:47,985 if he wanted to sit this out 1624 01:31:48,019 --> 01:31:49,918 and I should have made him do it, 1625 01:31:49,952 --> 01:31:52,299 because I didn't think he was up for it then 1626 01:31:52,334 --> 01:31:53,887 and I should have asked him to sit it out 1627 01:31:53,922 --> 01:31:55,130 and I didn't do it. 1628 01:31:55,164 --> 01:31:56,476 And that's on me and that's gonna be on me 1629 01:31:56,511 --> 01:31:58,582 every single time I talk about it. 1630 01:31:58,616 --> 01:32:01,757 Every time I'm asked that question, it's gonna be on me. 1631 01:32:01,792 --> 01:32:04,104 It's gonna be on me to think about the people, 1632 01:32:04,139 --> 01:32:07,073 not just beside me, that's missing him. 1633 01:32:07,107 --> 01:32:09,109 And that's what I got to do. 1634 01:32:09,144 --> 01:32:10,248 That's what I do every time 1635 01:32:10,283 --> 01:32:12,250 people ask me if I'm being honest 1636 01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:15,288 is I've got to look at the people 1637 01:32:15,322 --> 01:32:17,704 who aren't around to defend themselves. 1638 01:32:17,739 --> 01:32:19,534 Brett's not around to defend himself. 1639 01:32:21,294 --> 01:32:22,778 All I can do. 1640 01:32:22,813 --> 01:32:27,265 All I can do is call people and try to write checks. 1641 01:32:28,750 --> 01:32:33,720 Ineffective, because I can't tell them what really happened 1642 01:32:34,618 --> 01:32:36,309 and have them believe it. 1643 01:32:36,343 --> 01:32:38,345 - [Interviewer] So are they taking your call at all? 1644 01:32:38,380 --> 01:32:41,556 - No, nobody's taking my calls. 1645 01:32:42,522 --> 01:32:44,559 You know who's taking my calls? 1646 01:32:44,593 --> 01:32:48,148 People who want my documentary that I can't even give them. 1647 01:32:48,183 --> 01:32:49,564 That's who's taking my calls. 1648 01:32:50,944 --> 01:32:52,359 That's who's taking my calls. 1649 01:32:53,429 --> 01:32:56,018 [somber music] 121882

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