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[foreboding music]
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- [911 Dispatcher] 911,
what's your emergency?
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- [Woman] We need
someone here immediately.
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There are people, there
are a lot of people
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trying to get into my house.
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- [911 Dispatcher] Okay,
how many people, ma'am?
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- [Woman] I don't know.
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I don't know how many
people, they're just...
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I don't know.
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- [911 Dispatcher] Yeah, are
they inside the house, ma'am?
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- [Woman] No, we have
people inside the house.
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There's about five of us.
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You guys, where's Sean?
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Where is Sean?
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We need someone here.
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- [911 Dispatcher]
Okay, ma'am, I uh...
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Give me your address, ma'am.
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- [Woman] We're at [beeps].
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- [911 Dispatcher] Okay, ma'am.
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I need you to stay
on the line with me.
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I need you to tell me
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what's going on.
- You guys, where is Sean?
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- [Man] I've been
looking outside.
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I don't know. I don't know.
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I don't know.
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- [Woman] What do you
mean, you don't know?
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- [Man] Because we
haven't seen him.
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We thought he might
have been outside.
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I can't see, but-
- There are people outside.
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- [Man] Brett, have
you seen anything?
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- [Brett] No, I haven't.
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- [Man] Well, let's just
get the doors locked.
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- [911 Dispatcher] Ma'am,
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I need you to stay
on the line with me.
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Can you tell me what's going on?
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- [Woman] It's okay.
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I don't know.
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When I look out the window,
there's just lights.
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There's lights.
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[pensive music]
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- It's picturesque,
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a cozy farmhouse nestled
in the Golden Plains
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of America's heartland,
surrounded by rich soil
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and the relaxing solitude
of country living.
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It's the perfect place
to escape your troubles
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and the trappings
of a busy life.
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Perfect.
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Unless your troubles
can descend on you
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at any time from any place.
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[foreboding music]
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In July of 2013, Sean Miller
disappeared for four days.
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A four day manhunt ensued
that ended in a phone call
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from over 100 miles away
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and a story that would follow
the couple from home to home.
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Seven years later, the Millers,
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along with documentary film crew
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consisting of filmmaker Ash
Hamilton and his wife Chanell
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and cameraman Brett Pearson
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would revisit that
fateful event,
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culminating in a 911 call
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that would baffle
anyone who came near it.
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Hi. It's been a
pleasure to meet you.
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Let's just get started
with some basics.
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Why don't you give me your
name, your age, occupation.
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- My name is Ash Hamilton.
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I am 45 years old
and I am a filmmaker.
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And when I'm not making films,
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I also teach film on
the college level,
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film theory and film production.
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But I'm probably best known for
my work in the horror genre,
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serving as a producer on films
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like "Camp Death III in 2D!".
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- [Announcer] They've
been prescribed
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two heaping spoonfuls of death.
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"Camp Death III in 2D!"
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- [Ash] A film based off
of my board game property
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called "Slice and Dice."
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[eerie music]
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- I'm gonna slice you to pieces.
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[woman grunts]
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- [Ash] And also directing
the award winning short film,
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"Play With Me."
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- [Woman] What?
[foreboding music]
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[man chuckling wickedly]
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- So, tell me how
you became involved
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in this particular story.
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How do you know Stacy and Sean?
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What brought you to this?
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- I had originally heard
about the incident with Sean
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when it actually
happened in 2013.
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I've always been interested
in these subjects,
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so I was on various different
news sites, different forums,
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and this was of particular
interest when it came about
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because I didn't know
how local it was,
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but I knew that it was regional.
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I was pretty sure that it
was in the Illinois area,
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so I had a little
more interest in it
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than some of the other stories.
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And plus, it was, I
mean, in all honesty,
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it was it was a
little more fantastic
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than some of the other stories.
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This wasn't your typical lights
in the sky kind of thing.
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You know, this was an
actual disappearance
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and it was something
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where they had local law
enforcement involved.
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It was...
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I'll reiterate, it was
definitely more fantastic
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than some of the other
stories at the time
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that I was taking a look at.
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[pensive music]
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- [Chanell] Okay. So is
this the one you wanted?
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- [Ash] Yes.
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- [Chanell] Okay. Do you
wan't me to get a tripod or...
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- No, I think we can just
do the hand-held thing.
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I mean, this is really
sort of for us anyway,
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so we don't need to be.
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- Can I sit down for this?
- Yeah, no.
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You can go ahead and
sit down. That's fine.
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You know, like any good story
that has its own twists,
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goddammit I'm gonna go
ahead and start that again.
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Sorry about that.
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[beep]
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So like any good story,
there are twists and turns.
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We'll get to that in a minute.
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Sean Miller incident
happened in 2013.
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Sean Miller, who was
a Illinois native,
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which is sort of why I
was drawn to the story
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when it originally
took place in 2013,
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disappeared for four days,
and when he came back,
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there were tall
tales of abduction
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from a non-terrestrial
intelligence.
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He was displaced.
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The phone call came.
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Similar to the Travis
Walton story, miles away.
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In this particular instance,
over 100 miles away,
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when he finally came back.
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So there were reports
of phenomena happening
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previous to this.
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So I remember hearing
about it in 2013.
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We're seeing some
Associated Press articles
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and it got a hold of it and
ran in a few different places.
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And, you know, we thought,
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man, is there a better
story for a documentary,
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especially considering
what we're into?
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And then we started to try
to make the documentary.
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And lo and behold,
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we can't find anything
on the Sean Miller story.
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[Ash clearing throat]
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So. It's late.
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It is, my god!
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It's 2:56 in the morning
and there's a Reddit thread
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that I've been posting
in intermittently
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for the last few months.
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But tonight it was different
because someone DM'd me
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and they had a screenshot
of one of the articles
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and this has been
probably the biggest news
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on that front in a while.
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So I was pretty excited
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and I'm looking it over
and it looks pretty legit
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and not like 5 minutes later
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I get another DM
from the same guy
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and he's telling
me that not only
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does he live like
around the same town
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that Sean Miller
currently lives in,
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like not the residence
from seven years ago
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or four years ago,
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but we're talking right now
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and he follows all this up
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with the fact that he says that
he's got his email address.
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Okay, so it's now
been about a month
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since I had received
what I was told
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was Sean Miller's email address.
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About 8 minutes ago I
receive a notification
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for a return email from
Sean Miller's email address.
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Okay.
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"I hope you don't take
this the wrong way,
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but I've been burned on
this before, multiple times,
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so I'm more than
a little cautious.
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We are finally at a point
where we don't get..."
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I guess it's supposed to say
"we're finally at a point
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where we don't get a lot
of these emails anymore,
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and it's taken us
years to get here.
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Please, you need to
respect our privacy."
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Now. Wait.
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Okay.
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"If I give you 5
minutes and I say no.
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Well, then that's my final no."
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So. Yeah, 5 minutes.
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I'm usually up til midnight.
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Holy shit. And there's
actually a phone number here.
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Here goes.
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[expectant music]
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[phone ringing]
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So how are you going to
feel about being away
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from our home for a week?
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- Well, you know?
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I'll miss the cats.
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They won't miss me.
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And if it were to Disney,
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that would be super exciting
because it's a vacation.
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But it's not.
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It's to a stranger's house.
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So.
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I'm a little bit, little
bit apprehensive, but...
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[man laughing]
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- [Ash] I could get a
shoulder under there.
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That's about it.
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That's about all I could get.
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- You know I could
probably get under there,
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but that would not
be that comfortable.
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I'd probably get a terrible
leg cramp in the hamstring.
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- I could take a nap, but
I'd wake up with my neck
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all screwed up and...
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- [Ash] I am positive that
I could contort myself
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into position that one testicle
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would pop out and
shoot across the room.
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- Probably.
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- [Ash] That's what
would happen to me.
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- Just let me know first
and I'll turn on the camera.
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- [Ash] It would
be, it would be,
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well, it's free special effects,
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which I do love free,
as anyone will know.
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- Are you just aiming at me
because you can see my cleavage?
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- [Ash] That's exactly
what I'm doing.
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Actually.
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So if you could give
me your full name,
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your age and what
your affiliation is
with the documentary
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and the filmmakers behind it.
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- Okay.
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My name is Brett Pearson.
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I'm 38 years old, and my
association to the filmmakers,
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Ash and Chanell are
good friends of mine.
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I've known 'em for several years
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and we've kind of
go back a long way.
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I've been working
for them on and off,
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like I said, several years.
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This is kind of my foundation.
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This is where I got my feet wet
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with doing documentary
type camera work.
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It's mostly what I do for them,
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but I've done some mic work,
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some audio editing, pretty
much whatever I'm asked.
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So I got called in to do
this documentary to...
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The Millers.
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Things were experienced
at the residence
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and dropped what I was doing,
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which wasn't much of anything
and came to help out.
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- [Ash] Take a brief tour
here in the Horror Fix offices
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before we leave.
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See what our man in the
field, our DP Brett is doing.
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- Packing shit for the trip.
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So I got the tripods,
lighting, batteries,
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extra batteries for when
those don't wanna work.
254
00:14:10,228 --> 00:14:12,817
- [Ash] You mean, like, every
fucking time? [chuckles]
255
00:14:12,852 --> 00:14:13,922
- Tell me about it.
256
00:14:15,095 --> 00:14:16,821
Charger for batteries
at the front door.
257
00:14:16,856 --> 00:14:18,443
We can grab that on the way out.
258
00:14:18,478 --> 00:14:19,479
- [Ash] Famous last words, man.
259
00:14:19,513 --> 00:14:20,376
- Yeah, no doubt.
260
00:14:23,310 --> 00:14:24,898
- [Ash] What are your
personal thoughts
261
00:14:24,933 --> 00:14:26,900
on the subject matter?
262
00:14:26,935 --> 00:14:30,283
Would you consider yourself
a skeptic or a believer?
263
00:14:30,317 --> 00:14:31,940
- Skeptic, 100%, man,
264
00:14:31,974 --> 00:14:34,425
like I got to see
it with my own eyes
265
00:14:34,459 --> 00:14:36,185
if I'm gonna believe this.
266
00:14:36,220 --> 00:14:39,637
So, here I come. [chuckles]
267
00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,088
All right, get out of here.
268
00:14:42,122 --> 00:14:43,848
- [Ash] Hey, can I stop
you for just a second?
269
00:14:43,883 --> 00:14:44,711
- What?
270
00:14:46,126 --> 00:14:50,441
- I know I don't pry, and
I'm not trying to pry,
271
00:14:50,475 --> 00:14:52,029
but I'm just...
272
00:14:53,271 --> 00:14:55,964
You are okay with this, right?
273
00:14:55,998 --> 00:14:59,070
You are fine with
with doing this?
274
00:14:59,105 --> 00:15:01,417
- Doing this show,
doing documentary?
275
00:15:01,452 --> 00:15:02,936
- [Ash] Yeah. Yeah.
276
00:15:02,971 --> 00:15:04,973
- Like, I've done several
of these with you, man.
277
00:15:05,007 --> 00:15:07,251
Why would this be any different?
278
00:15:07,285 --> 00:15:08,666
- [Ash] Because it is different,
279
00:15:08,700 --> 00:15:10,633
because we know some of the shit
280
00:15:10,668 --> 00:15:12,394
that the Millers went through.
281
00:15:12,428 --> 00:15:14,914
And I just want to
know that you're okay
282
00:15:14,948 --> 00:15:17,261
and that you're going
to be okay, because...
283
00:15:17,295 --> 00:15:18,676
And because I love you.
284
00:15:18,710 --> 00:15:20,471
I love having you there.
285
00:15:20,505 --> 00:15:24,337
But, you know, if you
ever need to sit one out
286
00:15:24,371 --> 00:15:26,132
that it's not a big deal, man.
287
00:15:28,203 --> 00:15:30,308
- Ash. What the fuck
else would I be doing?
288
00:15:33,587 --> 00:15:36,797
- [Ash] So you're
definitely thinking
289
00:15:36,832 --> 00:15:38,661
that we are alone
in the universe.
290
00:15:40,525 --> 00:15:43,494
- I haven't seen anything
to change my mind.
291
00:15:43,528 --> 00:15:47,049
At the end of the night, when
I go to sleep, I'm alone.
292
00:15:49,914 --> 00:15:53,159
When we take our last breath,
you're gonna die alone.
293
00:15:54,643 --> 00:15:57,335
So unless I was to see
something to change my mind
294
00:15:57,370 --> 00:15:59,889
at this point, no, I don't
believe in any of this.
295
00:16:09,416 --> 00:16:10,693
I prefer to be on the
other end of the camera.
296
00:16:10,728 --> 00:16:11,522
Honestly.
297
00:16:14,663 --> 00:16:16,354
It's just not really my thing.
298
00:16:16,389 --> 00:16:18,943
- [Ash] It's okay. I
think we got what we need.
299
00:16:18,978 --> 00:16:19,806
- Thanks.
300
00:16:30,368 --> 00:16:32,025
[telephone ringing]
301
00:16:32,060 --> 00:16:33,820
- [Ash] And the third
time's the charm.
302
00:16:33,854 --> 00:16:35,270
- [Brett] Seriously?
303
00:16:35,304 --> 00:16:36,202
- [Ash] Like I was telling
you, three in a row.
304
00:16:36,236 --> 00:16:37,410
- [Brett] Three times a day?
305
00:16:37,444 --> 00:16:39,481
- [Ash] Every day,
all from Sean's phone.
306
00:16:39,515 --> 00:16:41,034
Seriously, pick it up.
307
00:16:41,069 --> 00:16:44,279
No, I'm telling you, pick
it up, it is creepy as hell.
308
00:16:44,313 --> 00:16:45,211
Seriously.
309
00:16:45,245 --> 00:16:46,143
- [Brett] Okay. Okay. Got it.
310
00:16:46,177 --> 00:16:48,214
- [Ash] Well, do it. Seriously.
311
00:16:48,248 --> 00:16:51,217
- [Brett] Hello?
[static buzzes]
312
00:16:51,251 --> 00:16:52,080
Hello.
313
00:16:53,046 --> 00:16:56,187
[static buzzes]
314
00:16:56,222 --> 00:17:00,329
[indistinct whispering]
315
00:17:00,364 --> 00:17:02,297
[phone beeps]
316
00:17:02,331 --> 00:17:03,850
- [Ash] What's wrong?
317
00:17:03,884 --> 00:17:05,300
- [Brett] I gotta get out
of here for a minute, man.
318
00:17:05,334 --> 00:17:06,301
- [Ash] Hey, are you okay?
319
00:17:06,335 --> 00:17:07,785
- I just need a minute.
- Brett?
320
00:17:12,410 --> 00:17:15,206
[somber music]
321
00:17:15,241 --> 00:17:17,174
- My name is Chanell Hamilton.
322
00:17:17,208 --> 00:17:18,899
I am 42.
323
00:17:18,934 --> 00:17:20,901
I am married to Ash Hamilton
324
00:17:20,936 --> 00:17:24,284
and we've been married
for seven years.
325
00:17:24,319 --> 00:17:29,289
And currently my day job is
working for the government.
326
00:17:33,155 --> 00:17:35,847
- [Brett] And what do
you do with Ash, though,
327
00:17:35,882 --> 00:17:37,090
professionally?
328
00:17:38,609 --> 00:17:43,579
- I do everything he
asks of me, basically.
329
00:17:44,718 --> 00:17:47,238
I help set up tripods
and the lighting
330
00:17:47,273 --> 00:17:49,378
and make sure that the
batteries are charged
331
00:17:49,413 --> 00:17:51,553
and make sure we've
got memory cards.
332
00:17:51,587 --> 00:17:54,763
- [Brett] This is, as you
are, a documentary filmmaker.
333
00:17:54,797 --> 00:17:56,385
- Yeah.
- You're part of the crew.
334
00:17:56,420 --> 00:17:59,181
- Yeah, definitely a
big part of the crew.
335
00:17:59,216 --> 00:18:01,494
He leans on me a
lot for making sure
336
00:18:01,528 --> 00:18:04,186
that things are
ready and in order.
337
00:18:07,741 --> 00:18:10,296
[car rumbling]
338
00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,480
- What is your go to,
339
00:18:28,659 --> 00:18:30,488
guilty pleasure sad song.
340
00:18:34,734 --> 00:18:35,942
The one where-
341
00:18:35,976 --> 00:18:37,219
- [Chanell] Are we
talking breakup songs
342
00:18:37,254 --> 00:18:41,844
or are we talking like
somebody died song or...
343
00:18:41,879 --> 00:18:43,018
- We can include
breakups in there, sure,
344
00:18:43,052 --> 00:18:44,468
we can include breakup songs.
345
00:18:44,502 --> 00:18:49,266
So but this is sort of
running the entire scope of,
346
00:18:50,681 --> 00:18:52,061
oh my God, I want to die.
347
00:18:52,924 --> 00:18:55,064
This song makes me want to die.
348
00:18:55,099 --> 00:18:57,446
I'm going to listen to
it 10 times on repeat.
349
00:18:58,585 --> 00:18:59,414
- How about...
350
00:19:02,693 --> 00:19:05,247
R.E.M. "Everybody Hurts".
351
00:19:05,282 --> 00:19:08,147
- Oh.
[everyone laughs]
352
00:19:09,424 --> 00:19:10,356
Breakup song.
353
00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,290
- [Brett] Oh, you're going
to go for the breakup song?
354
00:19:13,324 --> 00:19:15,326
- You know, I've had the
most experience, [laughs].
355
00:19:18,778 --> 00:19:20,607
Breakup song, there's
this Peter Gabriel song,
356
00:19:20,642 --> 00:19:23,127
and I cannot remember
the name of it.
357
00:19:23,162 --> 00:19:26,579
Is it "In your eyes"?
- No.
358
00:19:26,613 --> 00:19:27,718
- Or is it "Stay"?
- No.
359
00:19:27,752 --> 00:19:28,995
- The one he did with Kate Bush.
360
00:19:29,029 --> 00:19:29,892
- No.
361
00:19:29,927 --> 00:19:31,239
- Or is that "Stay"?
362
00:19:31,273 --> 00:19:34,173
- [Chanell] No, I don't
know. But it's not that.
363
00:19:34,207 --> 00:19:36,244
- "Salisbury Hill"?
- No.
364
00:19:37,762 --> 00:19:39,971
- I don't think you
know what song it is.
365
00:19:40,006 --> 00:19:44,355
- I don't remember
the name of the song.
366
00:19:44,390 --> 00:19:46,461
- But you know that
it's Peter Gabriel.
367
00:19:46,495 --> 00:19:47,289
- [Chanell] Yeah.
368
00:19:48,497 --> 00:19:51,811
- It's not like a weird
like for some reason,
369
00:19:51,845 --> 00:19:53,916
like "Sledgehammer"
was your breakup song?
370
00:20:01,096 --> 00:20:05,065
- And what was your initial
opinion of the Millers?
371
00:20:05,100 --> 00:20:09,380
- You know, at first they
seemed a little apprehensive.
372
00:20:10,381 --> 00:20:12,452
And somewhat standoffish.
373
00:20:12,487 --> 00:20:14,972
But the the days that
we spent with them,
374
00:20:15,006 --> 00:20:19,770
we seemed to grow a
friendship with them.
375
00:20:21,806 --> 00:20:24,223
- Got to be it.
376
00:20:24,257 --> 00:20:26,363
Where are we on the
GPS? Are we close?
377
00:20:26,397 --> 00:20:28,192
- GPS shows that
this should be it.
378
00:20:30,229 --> 00:20:31,644
So what did he say?
379
00:20:31,678 --> 00:20:34,681
- Well, he he said a
rickety old picket fence.
380
00:20:34,716 --> 00:20:39,686
Which [chuckles] that is a
rickety old picket fence.
381
00:20:41,205 --> 00:20:44,864
I mean, it's a great fence,
though, but it's like, man,
382
00:20:44,898 --> 00:20:45,830
you can't really
say anything other
383
00:20:45,865 --> 00:20:47,246
than a rickety old picket fence.
384
00:20:48,695 --> 00:20:51,664
God damn. They are out
in the middle of nowhere.
385
00:20:53,424 --> 00:20:54,218
Jesus.
386
00:20:56,255 --> 00:20:59,603
- [Brett] Home sweet home
for the next couple of days.
387
00:20:59,637 --> 00:21:03,123
- I'm not sure they have
Internet out here, babe.
388
00:21:04,746 --> 00:21:06,679
Just being honest with you.
389
00:21:06,713 --> 00:21:08,232
I'm not really sure.
390
00:21:08,267 --> 00:21:09,958
- I've got like one
and a half bars.
391
00:21:11,649 --> 00:21:14,273
[Ash knocking]
392
00:21:20,762 --> 00:21:22,729
- Hey.
- Ash?
393
00:21:22,764 --> 00:21:24,697
Yes. Hey, you doing?
394
00:21:24,731 --> 00:21:25,905
- Good seeing you again.
395
00:21:27,631 --> 00:21:29,702
Do you mind, just
give her a minute.
396
00:21:29,736 --> 00:21:30,668
She's not...
397
00:21:31,876 --> 00:21:35,086
super excited that
this happening.
398
00:21:35,121 --> 00:21:38,262
So we need to just kind of
let her cool for a second.
399
00:21:38,297 --> 00:21:39,401
Hi.
- Chanell.
400
00:21:39,436 --> 00:21:40,609
- Chanell.
401
00:21:40,644 --> 00:21:42,370
Yeah, I've heard
about you from Ash.
402
00:21:42,404 --> 00:21:43,578
- All good things.
403
00:21:43,612 --> 00:21:44,820
- Yeah. Yeah.
- All good things.
404
00:21:44,855 --> 00:21:45,683
- Brett.
405
00:21:48,168 --> 00:21:50,826
- When I first started
talking to Sean,
406
00:21:52,311 --> 00:21:54,140
even though we were hopeful
407
00:21:54,174 --> 00:21:56,556
that this whole project
was gonna happen,
408
00:21:56,591 --> 00:21:58,834
Sean was extremely reserved.
409
00:22:00,353 --> 00:22:03,494
This was a couple that had
not talked to news outlets
410
00:22:04,771 --> 00:22:07,533
for the better part of
six years about this.
411
00:22:22,375 --> 00:22:23,203
I'm sorry.
412
00:22:29,244 --> 00:22:33,213
As far I knew everything
was going to be cool.
413
00:22:33,248 --> 00:22:34,698
I feel bad because I
don't want to put you guys
414
00:22:34,732 --> 00:22:38,460
in a position of, not
cool, because, admittedly,
415
00:22:38,495 --> 00:22:41,118
that was a little strange.
416
00:22:41,152 --> 00:22:43,396
- [Brett] You could cut
tension with a knife.
417
00:22:43,431 --> 00:22:46,675
- I hope she's going to
be cool because, like.
418
00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:48,643
I already felt
like that tension.
419
00:22:49,713 --> 00:22:51,473
- Well, it was definitely there.
420
00:22:51,508 --> 00:22:55,443
It was there.
421
00:22:55,477 --> 00:22:58,480
What I don't want is for us
to get all the way out here,
422
00:22:58,515 --> 00:23:00,309
and come all the way back,
423
00:23:00,344 --> 00:23:03,105
because things weren't
sewn up the way the way
424
00:23:03,140 --> 00:23:05,142
we thought they were gonna be.
425
00:23:05,176 --> 00:23:06,212
But...
426
00:23:06,246 --> 00:23:07,765
- I mean, we're here.
- Yeah.
427
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:08,766
No, you're right.
428
00:23:08,801 --> 00:23:10,009
So let's, for the time being.
429
00:23:11,804 --> 00:23:12,805
You know. All right.
430
00:23:16,429 --> 00:23:18,431
- [Interviewer] You've
had some experiences
431
00:23:18,466 --> 00:23:21,779
that wouldn't be your
typical shoot, right?
432
00:23:24,886 --> 00:23:26,508
- And I know this is...
433
00:23:28,337 --> 00:23:31,271
There were incidences,
434
00:23:33,550 --> 00:23:37,416
there were things that happened
on phone calls with Sean,
435
00:23:37,450 --> 00:23:42,421
on Zoom meetings with Sean,
that we could not explain.
436
00:23:43,836 --> 00:23:46,873
- [Interviewer] So you're
saying that you were starting
437
00:23:46,908 --> 00:23:49,117
to experience a co-experience
438
00:23:49,151 --> 00:23:51,119
as you were
interacting with Sean?
439
00:23:52,569 --> 00:23:57,297
- It was, not only very strange,
but it was very unexpected.
440
00:23:57,884 --> 00:23:59,990
[pensive music]
441
00:24:06,203 --> 00:24:07,653
- Some of the ones that we do,
442
00:24:08,688 --> 00:24:10,172
a lot of the the stuff that I do
443
00:24:10,207 --> 00:24:13,313
is I try to help organize
the foremen on the job
444
00:24:13,348 --> 00:24:18,353
and try to help
them get stuff done.
445
00:24:19,872 --> 00:24:21,252
- Sean, real quick.
- Yeah.
446
00:24:22,426 --> 00:24:24,946
- Is that what you were
talking about on Zoom
447
00:24:25,878 --> 00:24:27,120
as far as the lights?
448
00:24:27,155 --> 00:24:29,191
Because I noticed that
that light turned off.
449
00:24:32,125 --> 00:24:34,127
- Yeah.
- There it went again,
450
00:24:34,162 --> 00:24:36,509
but yet we've got the
lights on in the kitchen.
451
00:24:36,544 --> 00:24:37,614
- Yeah. Yeah.
452
00:24:37,648 --> 00:24:41,307
No that's definitely something
453
00:24:41,341 --> 00:24:45,173
and I've checked the
wiring in the house
454
00:24:45,207 --> 00:24:48,970
and I've had and you
know, at Stacey's,
455
00:24:50,178 --> 00:24:53,146
urgency, I've had
other people come in
456
00:24:53,181 --> 00:24:55,804
and check it and it's...
457
00:24:57,703 --> 00:24:59,290
Everything checked out okay.
458
00:25:03,916 --> 00:25:05,987
- [Ash] If you don't
mind me asking.
459
00:25:06,021 --> 00:25:08,403
And again, I know that this
is going to seem interruptive
460
00:25:08,437 --> 00:25:12,787
because when I think of
questions, I'll ask them.
461
00:25:12,821 --> 00:25:15,652
Does that happen so often that
we're going to have problems
462
00:25:15,686 --> 00:25:18,309
with our lights, or will
it stay on for a while
463
00:25:19,483 --> 00:25:21,071
and then just do
that periodically?
464
00:25:21,105 --> 00:25:22,555
- I wish I could tell you.
465
00:25:32,669 --> 00:25:35,050
- [Ash] The incident in 2013
466
00:25:35,085 --> 00:25:36,293
and this was
happening in the house
467
00:25:36,327 --> 00:25:39,296
previous to the
incident in 2013.
468
00:25:42,713 --> 00:25:44,335
- Yeah. Yeah, it was.
469
00:25:44,370 --> 00:25:46,959
[pot clatters]
470
00:25:47,925 --> 00:25:48,754
- [Ash] Okay.
471
00:25:51,204 --> 00:25:54,794
Now, that happened
literally off camera.
472
00:25:54,829 --> 00:25:56,313
- Yeah.
473
00:25:56,347 --> 00:25:57,970
- [Ash] But we're going to
catch the audio on that.
474
00:25:59,454 --> 00:26:03,596
As we were talking about the
phenomena with the lights,
475
00:26:04,804 --> 00:26:09,498
Literally one of the
pots from the kitchen
476
00:26:10,983 --> 00:26:15,919
and I'm not exaggerating,
sprang off the wall.
477
00:26:17,230 --> 00:26:19,854
And it did it with such force.
478
00:26:21,441 --> 00:26:22,719
- Yeah. It busted the
handle, right off.
479
00:26:22,753 --> 00:26:26,377
- [Ash] That it actually
busted the handle.
480
00:26:26,412 --> 00:26:29,484
- Yeah, 'cause it's only
been used a handful of times.
481
00:26:29,518 --> 00:26:30,347
It's fairly new.
482
00:26:32,418 --> 00:26:34,454
- [Ash] And this is common.
483
00:26:34,489 --> 00:26:36,284
This is another common thing.
484
00:26:36,318 --> 00:26:37,906
- It's something. Yeah.
485
00:26:39,252 --> 00:26:42,462
I don't want to say it's normal.
486
00:26:42,497 --> 00:26:45,776
'Cause I mean, this
isn't normal, right?
487
00:26:47,329 --> 00:26:48,399
It is for me.
488
00:26:53,853 --> 00:26:55,027
- [Interviewer]
We've heard reports
489
00:26:55,061 --> 00:26:56,545
of cryptids and
poltergeist activity
490
00:26:56,580 --> 00:26:59,031
associated with the
Sean Miller case.
491
00:26:59,065 --> 00:27:03,207
Is this atypical of UFO
abduction encounters?
492
00:27:03,242 --> 00:27:04,726
- Yes.
493
00:27:04,761 --> 00:27:08,627
Many people don't realize when
there are cases of anything
494
00:27:08,661 --> 00:27:11,422
that can be labeled
paranormal or supernatural.
495
00:27:11,457 --> 00:27:13,390
There are areas where there are
496
00:27:13,424 --> 00:27:16,324
a lot of different
things going on.
497
00:27:16,358 --> 00:27:18,188
And what I mean by that is
498
00:27:18,222 --> 00:27:22,123
you'll find even geographical
areas of the world
499
00:27:22,157 --> 00:27:25,644
where you will have
reports of UFO sightings,
500
00:27:25,678 --> 00:27:28,716
of Bigfoot sightings,
of ghost encounters
501
00:27:28,750 --> 00:27:30,200
all in the same place.
502
00:27:30,234 --> 00:27:32,961
You know, we in the field
are still investigating that.
503
00:27:32,996 --> 00:27:34,583
We keep our mind open.
504
00:27:34,618 --> 00:27:36,655
We're looking to see if
there's a relationship
505
00:27:36,689 --> 00:27:37,863
and all of that that happens.
506
00:27:37,897 --> 00:27:41,729
But it is not out of
the realm of possibility
507
00:27:41,763 --> 00:27:44,939
that there are different
paranormal occurrences
508
00:27:44,973 --> 00:27:47,527
happening in one
particular incident.
509
00:27:47,562 --> 00:27:50,496
[foreboding music]
510
00:28:09,618 --> 00:28:12,483
- [Ash] Okay. So we are
going to try this again.
511
00:28:12,518 --> 00:28:15,590
We keep having battery
issues with the audio unit
512
00:28:15,624 --> 00:28:20,250
batteries draining as
well as the camera itself.
513
00:28:20,284 --> 00:28:23,425
New batteries of both units
that we have had to replace
514
00:28:23,460 --> 00:28:25,876
within about three
minutes of shooting.
515
00:28:25,911 --> 00:28:28,879
So we're going to try
to do it this time
516
00:28:28,914 --> 00:28:30,985
and see what happens.
517
00:28:31,019 --> 00:28:32,434
Luckily, we got
plenty of batteries,
518
00:28:32,469 --> 00:28:35,403
so I think we can keep
switching out if we need to.
519
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,993
So I know that this was
part of the test footage
520
00:28:39,027 --> 00:28:40,546
we ran through earlier,
521
00:28:40,580 --> 00:28:42,755
I know that we had
some lighting issues.
522
00:28:43,963 --> 00:28:45,758
This is all stuff that
we talked about on Zoom
523
00:28:45,793 --> 00:28:47,139
that we were prepared for.
524
00:28:47,173 --> 00:28:49,348
It is just happening
a little more rapidly
525
00:28:49,382 --> 00:28:50,867
than we had expected.
526
00:28:50,901 --> 00:28:53,076
So we should still
be good, though.
527
00:28:53,110 --> 00:28:58,081
So if you could please give
me your name, your age.
528
00:29:02,395 --> 00:29:07,366
Just give us your name, your
age, and your occupation.
529
00:29:11,232 --> 00:29:12,371
- Sean Miller.
530
00:29:12,405 --> 00:29:14,822
I'm 43 years old.
531
00:29:14,856 --> 00:29:19,792
I am a Project Inspector for
a local construction company.
532
00:29:23,934 --> 00:29:27,282
[pensive music]
533
00:29:27,317 --> 00:29:28,594
- [Ash] If you could Sean,
534
00:29:30,044 --> 00:29:31,942
Could you tell us how long
you've lived in the Midwest,
535
00:29:31,977 --> 00:29:33,323
have you always
lived in the Midwest?
536
00:29:34,945 --> 00:29:39,916
- Yeah. Since I was little.
537
00:29:40,813 --> 00:29:42,815
Probably about eight or nine.
538
00:29:44,265 --> 00:29:46,612
For the most part, I
lived in the Midwest area.
539
00:29:49,235 --> 00:29:54,102
When I was young, my
dad did a lot of...
540
00:29:59,901 --> 00:30:02,076
traveling with his company
541
00:30:02,110 --> 00:30:06,701
and before he left
542
00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:16,055
we settled here with
my mom, myself and him.
543
00:30:16,090 --> 00:30:21,060
And then we pretty much
stayed, my mom and I.
544
00:30:24,063 --> 00:30:25,582
- [Ash] Apologies,
but are your parents
545
00:30:25,616 --> 00:30:26,997
currently alive or deceased?
546
00:30:28,896 --> 00:30:30,380
- My mother's alive.
547
00:30:30,414 --> 00:30:32,209
My father...
548
00:30:32,244 --> 00:30:34,867
[static buzzes]
549
00:30:38,664 --> 00:30:39,492
Sorry.
550
00:30:43,427 --> 00:30:45,084
We talked about this happening.
551
00:30:51,573 --> 00:30:54,438
- [Interviewer] So we've
seen moments that looks like
552
00:30:54,473 --> 00:30:58,684
it has affected every single
aspect off Sean's life.
553
00:30:58,718 --> 00:31:03,654
- There were moments where,
now mind you we went into this
554
00:31:04,828 --> 00:31:06,726
with the idea of
entertainment value,
555
00:31:06,761 --> 00:31:09,764
and that was what we were trying
556
00:31:09,798 --> 00:31:11,421
to sort of capture
from the start.
557
00:31:12,871 --> 00:31:17,530
However, I think when you
do see just how affected
558
00:31:18,738 --> 00:31:21,396
someone is, it does
sort of center things
559
00:31:21,431 --> 00:31:23,226
and ground it a little bit.
560
00:31:23,260 --> 00:31:28,231
And I think you can tell,
especially some points
561
00:31:29,439 --> 00:31:32,821
where he's trying so
hard to be normal,
562
00:31:32,856 --> 00:31:36,135
and I guess he's trying so
hard to just live his life
563
00:31:36,170 --> 00:31:39,932
and it's almost like
he almost gets there.
564
00:31:39,967 --> 00:31:42,590
And then there's
just so much baggage
565
00:31:42,624 --> 00:31:44,764
that it just draws him back.
566
00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:47,250
And I think we saw that a
lot while we were there.
567
00:31:52,151 --> 00:31:54,913
- I think the biggest
thing is that I just,
568
00:31:56,121 --> 00:32:00,090
I like how neatly
they wrap up a mystery
569
00:32:01,574 --> 00:32:04,819
in that 20, 15 to 20 minutes.
570
00:32:04,853 --> 00:32:07,926
You know, it was kind of
like put a neat bow on it.
571
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,411
But as a kid, you just,
572
00:32:10,445 --> 00:32:12,240
you almost kind of
knew it was coming.
573
00:32:12,275 --> 00:32:14,346
Like he knew exactly
who the bad guy was.
574
00:32:14,380 --> 00:32:16,796
But you still, there's
a little part of you
575
00:32:16,831 --> 00:32:18,660
that thought they might
throw a curve ball.
576
00:32:18,695 --> 00:32:20,421
- It was whoever
owned property, right?
577
00:32:20,455 --> 00:32:21,698
- Yeah.
578
00:32:21,732 --> 00:32:24,045
- It was like, just look
at the property owner
579
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,253
in "Scooby Doo".
580
00:32:25,288 --> 00:32:28,256
If you're a property
owner, you're a villain.
581
00:32:28,291 --> 00:32:29,809
That's all there is to it.
582
00:32:29,844 --> 00:32:33,399
I think this was one of the
first full frontal assaults
583
00:32:33,434 --> 00:32:36,092
on out of control capitalism
in American cartoons.
584
00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:38,715
- [Chanell] Big
fan of the Snorks.
585
00:32:39,681 --> 00:32:41,373
- You mean underwater Smurfs?
586
00:32:41,407 --> 00:32:42,650
- Fuck, yeah.
587
00:32:42,684 --> 00:32:46,171
Second, but equal to
the Snorks is Smurfs.
588
00:32:46,205 --> 00:32:47,689
Obviously.
589
00:32:48,932 --> 00:32:53,523
But, you know, when I
was probably somewhere
590
00:32:53,557 --> 00:32:55,490
second, third, fourth grade,
591
00:32:57,285 --> 00:32:59,805
when I would get
home from school,
592
00:32:59,839 --> 00:33:01,531
the exact time I got
home from school,
593
00:33:01,565 --> 00:33:04,879
I could not get off the bus
fast enough and get inside.
594
00:33:04,913 --> 00:33:07,813
Oddly, it was the animated
"Dennis the Menace".
595
00:33:08,987 --> 00:33:11,851
It was weird, that
I had to watch
596
00:33:11,886 --> 00:33:14,854
those 25 minutes of
"Dennis the Menace".
597
00:33:14,889 --> 00:33:18,306
Running from the bus
missed the first 5 minutes,
598
00:33:18,341 --> 00:33:21,309
but still, had to be there.
599
00:33:21,344 --> 00:33:23,518
- So, you were always running
low 5 minutes of Menace.
600
00:33:23,553 --> 00:33:25,003
- There was an episode.
601
00:33:26,418 --> 00:33:31,354
I love old school "Star Wars"
and droids was, like it.
602
00:33:33,356 --> 00:33:35,565
- Was was it Ewoks and Droids?
603
00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:37,739
- Ewoks and Droids.
- Yes.
604
00:33:37,774 --> 00:33:39,914
- And there is this episode
605
00:33:41,812 --> 00:33:45,954
and it was I want to say,
it's one of the ones that was
606
00:33:45,989 --> 00:33:48,405
I mean, a lot of them did
crossovers with Endor,
607
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:49,889
it was one of the
ones where I think
608
00:33:49,924 --> 00:33:51,684
they they all went to Endor.
609
00:33:51,719 --> 00:33:54,998
And I never got to see it again.
610
00:33:55,033 --> 00:33:55,964
It only aired.
611
00:33:55,999 --> 00:33:56,896
I missed that episode.
612
00:33:56,931 --> 00:33:58,174
You talk about missing episodes.
613
00:33:58,208 --> 00:33:59,692
I missed that episode.
614
00:33:59,727 --> 00:34:01,108
And it was, I happened to
miss it because that week...
615
00:34:06,768 --> 00:34:11,635
that week and that weekend, I
was out camping with family.
616
00:34:12,809 --> 00:34:14,638
We were out at a lake
and a cabin we had
617
00:34:14,673 --> 00:34:16,088
and we were out there camping.
618
00:34:16,123 --> 00:34:18,711
It was a great week,
it was a lot of fun.
619
00:34:18,746 --> 00:34:22,612
But the reason that I
remember that is because
620
00:34:22,646 --> 00:34:24,821
not only did I miss that
episode that never aired again,
621
00:34:24,855 --> 00:34:26,340
that was super pissed,
because I didn't get to see it
622
00:34:26,374 --> 00:34:30,447
until recently when you can
find everything on the internet.
623
00:34:30,482 --> 00:34:34,175
But one of my friends I
got back told me that,
624
00:34:36,660 --> 00:34:41,631
my friend Shane, he told me
that all the kids on the block,
625
00:34:43,184 --> 00:34:45,945
were sitting there
in front of my house
626
00:34:45,980 --> 00:34:49,328
watching these lights go by.
627
00:34:49,363 --> 00:34:51,330
And I was like, "What are
you talking about lights?"
628
00:34:51,365 --> 00:34:54,713
Like, Are you talking about,
like, you know, people
629
00:34:54,747 --> 00:34:57,440
running around with
flashlights playing night tag?
630
00:35:00,615 --> 00:35:02,307
Like we used to sit around,
like, you know, give-
631
00:35:02,341 --> 00:35:03,446
- Flashlight tag.
- Yeah, flashlight tag.
632
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,551
Yeah, yeah, that's it.
633
00:35:05,586 --> 00:35:06,828
But he's like, "No,
no", he's like,
634
00:35:06,863 --> 00:35:11,212
"We were all camped out
kind of on the street."
635
00:35:11,247 --> 00:35:13,145
We lived a little outside
of town, but not too far,
636
00:35:13,180 --> 00:35:16,355
kind of in a little
kind of rural suburb.
637
00:35:16,390 --> 00:35:20,325
And on my street, all
the kids are gathered,
638
00:35:20,359 --> 00:35:24,260
I guess there's these
like spheres of light
639
00:35:24,294 --> 00:35:27,297
that just kind of went
up and down the street
640
00:35:28,333 --> 00:35:29,886
and they thought, at first,
641
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:30,887
"Are you talking about
firefly's or something?"
642
00:35:30,921 --> 00:35:33,510
"No, no, like actual balls,
643
00:35:33,545 --> 00:35:36,237
like about the size, some of
them the size of a golf ball,
644
00:35:36,272 --> 00:35:38,688
something a little
bigger, like a softball."
645
00:35:38,722 --> 00:35:43,693
And they were they were
looking for me, he said.
646
00:35:44,970 --> 00:35:48,629
But I don't know.
647
00:35:50,148 --> 00:35:50,976
I don't know.
648
00:35:52,978 --> 00:35:54,773
But they stopped
when I got back.
649
00:35:57,569 --> 00:35:58,846
They stopped.
650
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,814
[foreboding music]
651
00:36:04,403 --> 00:36:05,301
- [Interviewer] I know
that you've all had
652
00:36:05,335 --> 00:36:07,199
some lighthearted moments.
653
00:36:07,234 --> 00:36:09,857
Did you ever think that you
could turn your cameras off?
654
00:36:09,891 --> 00:36:12,618
- It was like it was a
struggle to put the camera down
655
00:36:12,653 --> 00:36:14,896
because I think each
of us felt the moment
656
00:36:14,931 --> 00:36:16,450
we were going to put one
of those cameras down,
657
00:36:16,484 --> 00:36:17,968
something was going to happen
658
00:36:18,003 --> 00:36:19,694
that could not be duplicated.
659
00:36:19,729 --> 00:36:23,284
Something new, something
even more intense.
660
00:36:25,907 --> 00:36:30,049
Literally like 65
floors up, 65 floors up.
661
00:36:30,084 --> 00:36:31,327
So this guy is hanging
over the railing.
662
00:36:31,361 --> 00:36:32,673
This is wrought iron.
663
00:36:32,707 --> 00:36:35,123
There's absolutely
nothing keeping him
664
00:36:35,158 --> 00:36:37,298
from literally
falling off the...
665
00:36:37,333 --> 00:36:39,990
[knock on door]
666
00:36:42,338 --> 00:36:44,063
- Yeah. Lemme go check.
667
00:36:44,098 --> 00:36:45,582
Sorry, guys. Hold on a second.
668
00:36:49,931 --> 00:36:52,244
- [Chanell] Girl scouts.
Want some cookies?
669
00:36:52,279 --> 00:36:54,108
[knocking on back door]
670
00:36:54,142 --> 00:36:56,593
- Babe, babe I think.
671
00:36:56,628 --> 00:36:57,836
I think they're around back.
672
00:36:57,870 --> 00:36:59,769
- Okay. Yeah, they
might go around.
673
00:37:03,048 --> 00:37:05,326
[knock on front door]
674
00:37:05,361 --> 00:37:07,811
But probably some fucking kids.
675
00:37:07,846 --> 00:37:08,847
Oh, fuckin with us.
676
00:37:08,881 --> 00:37:10,331
Okay, you know what?
677
00:37:10,366 --> 00:37:13,645
You guys go that way, and
we're gonna go around this way,
678
00:37:13,679 --> 00:37:15,371
and we'll try to see
if we can cut 'em off
679
00:37:15,405 --> 00:37:16,337
around the corner, okay?
- Okay.
680
00:37:16,372 --> 00:37:17,752
- All right.
- Come on.
681
00:37:18,891 --> 00:37:20,238
Assholes.
682
00:37:20,272 --> 00:37:24,725
- Do you have a flashlight?
- Yeah, I got one.
683
00:37:27,866 --> 00:37:28,936
Hey, who's out there?
684
00:37:44,883 --> 00:37:46,643
[knocking on door]
685
00:37:46,678 --> 00:37:47,886
- [Ash] You guys
seriously just knock?
686
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,922
- No, No.
- No we didn't.
687
00:37:52,546 --> 00:37:55,963
- I saw the fucking door.
688
00:37:55,997 --> 00:37:57,689
Something was
knocking on the door.
689
00:37:58,862 --> 00:38:00,830
You just walked up, and
the door was almost.
690
00:38:01,900 --> 00:38:02,832
- [Ash] From the outside?
691
00:38:02,866 --> 00:38:04,834
- Something was there, knocking.
692
00:38:06,214 --> 00:38:08,596
- [Brett] 100% Ash.
Totally seen that.
693
00:38:10,253 --> 00:38:11,461
It's on camera.
694
00:38:41,526 --> 00:38:42,941
- [Chanell] Hey.
695
00:38:42,975 --> 00:38:44,563
Hey, baby. Ash!
696
00:38:44,598 --> 00:38:46,634
Babe! You got to get up.
697
00:38:46,669 --> 00:38:47,808
You got to.
698
00:38:47,842 --> 00:38:49,016
You got to see
what Brett's doing.
699
00:38:49,050 --> 00:38:49,913
You got to see what
you he's doing.
700
00:38:49,948 --> 00:38:52,260
He's out here. He's out here.
701
00:38:52,295 --> 00:38:53,331
- Okay.
702
00:38:53,365 --> 00:38:54,262
Should I grab my phone?
703
00:38:54,297 --> 00:38:55,919
- [Chanell] God Yes. Yes.
704
00:38:55,954 --> 00:38:56,989
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
705
00:38:57,024 --> 00:38:57,956
C'mon hurry up.
706
00:38:57,990 --> 00:38:59,958
Hurry, hurry, hurry, hurry.
707
00:38:59,992 --> 00:39:01,753
- [Ash] Goddamit, I gotta find.
708
00:39:01,787 --> 00:39:03,686
I gotta turn the
fucking light on.
709
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:05,826
- [Chanell] You know
how to use this thing?
710
00:39:15,939 --> 00:39:17,424
He's not there.
711
00:39:19,184 --> 00:39:20,565
He's on the stairs.
712
00:39:20,599 --> 00:39:22,670
- He's on the fucking stairs?
- He's on the stairs.
713
00:39:22,705 --> 00:39:24,914
He's on the stairs.
714
00:39:24,948 --> 00:39:27,192
So, I don't know.
715
00:39:27,226 --> 00:39:28,780
- [Ash] What the fuck is
he doing on the stairs?
716
00:39:28,814 --> 00:39:32,059
- I have no clue.
He's freaking me out.
717
00:39:33,509 --> 00:39:34,475
Look at this!
718
00:39:34,510 --> 00:39:36,615
- [Ash] He's right over here.
719
00:39:36,650 --> 00:39:38,583
- [Chanell] We can't see him,
720
00:39:38,617 --> 00:39:41,482
at least let me
get the flashlight.
721
00:39:48,731 --> 00:39:51,527
- [Ash] What in
the fucking world?
722
00:39:57,705 --> 00:40:01,399
What the fuck is going on?
- What is he doing?
723
00:40:03,780 --> 00:40:06,265
Is he fucking talking?
724
00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:08,958
- [Chanell] Yeah. Looks like it.
725
00:40:11,754 --> 00:40:13,341
- [Ash] I gotta
fucking wake him up.
726
00:40:13,376 --> 00:40:14,688
- [Chanell] I don't
think that's a good idea.
727
00:40:14,722 --> 00:40:16,068
- [Ash] I gotta
fucking wake him up.
728
00:40:16,103 --> 00:40:17,829
You know what's
gonna fuckin' happen?
729
00:40:17,863 --> 00:40:18,864
He's gonna wake Sean and Stacey,
730
00:40:18,899 --> 00:40:21,073
which we can't fucking have.
731
00:40:21,108 --> 00:40:25,284
And second of all, he's half
fucking asleep on the stairs.
732
00:40:27,735 --> 00:40:30,358
- [Chanell] Don't make
him fall down the stairs.
733
00:40:30,393 --> 00:40:34,190
- [Ash] He's not gonna
fucking fall down the stairs.
734
00:40:34,224 --> 00:40:37,262
- [Ash] I don't
think is a good idea.
735
00:40:41,231 --> 00:40:42,060
- Brett.
736
00:40:44,407 --> 00:40:48,825
[Brett mumbling incoherently]
Brett.
737
00:40:50,862 --> 00:40:51,656
Brett.
738
00:40:59,629 --> 00:41:02,183
[eerie music]
739
00:41:02,218 --> 00:41:03,012
Dude.
740
00:41:05,117 --> 00:41:06,809
Whoa, whoa. Fuck.
741
00:41:11,020 --> 00:41:13,367
- [Interviewer] We
know that Brett,
742
00:41:13,401 --> 00:41:16,853
who just went through a divorce,
recently lost their son.
743
00:41:16,888 --> 00:41:18,510
Was this the best place for him?
744
00:41:20,063 --> 00:41:22,859
- I didn't think that this
was the best one for him
745
00:41:22,894 --> 00:41:24,378
in the beginning.
746
00:41:24,412 --> 00:41:28,106
And we talked about it.
747
00:41:29,314 --> 00:41:33,905
And then by the time
we were as thick
748
00:41:33,939 --> 00:41:35,596
in the situation as we were,
749
00:41:35,631 --> 00:41:37,909
he definitely shouldn't
have been there.
750
00:41:46,296 --> 00:41:48,885
- Stacy, it's really
nice to meet you today.
751
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,578
Can you tell me, though,
your name and your occupation
752
00:41:51,612 --> 00:41:54,408
and how did you know Sean?
753
00:41:54,442 --> 00:41:56,168
- I'm Stacey Miller.
754
00:41:56,203 --> 00:41:58,619
I am the wife of Sean Miller.
755
00:41:58,654 --> 00:42:03,590
I'm 36 years old and I'm a
bank teller at a local bank.
756
00:42:04,763 --> 00:42:05,833
- I see.
757
00:42:05,868 --> 00:42:07,559
Have you talked about this
758
00:42:07,594 --> 00:42:09,941
with many of your
neighbors or friends,
759
00:42:09,975 --> 00:42:13,461
or how widely known
is this situation?
760
00:42:13,496 --> 00:42:16,844
- No, I don't talk
to much people.
761
00:42:16,879 --> 00:42:18,294
I mean, I have my sister.
762
00:42:18,328 --> 00:42:20,365
She's my backbone.
763
00:42:20,399 --> 00:42:22,609
Other than that,
I keep to myself.
764
00:42:22,643 --> 00:42:24,196
It's just gotten to that point.
765
00:42:26,716 --> 00:42:30,064
- [Ash] You'll have to forgive
me here, but I'm still unsure
766
00:42:30,099 --> 00:42:32,964
as to why you decided
to stay in the house
767
00:42:32,998 --> 00:42:33,999
that you're in now
768
00:42:35,207 --> 00:42:39,280
when you've left some of
the others so quickly.
769
00:42:41,489 --> 00:42:42,318
- Well.
770
00:42:45,493 --> 00:42:47,737
- [Stacey] Tell them
why you made us stay.
771
00:42:53,501 --> 00:42:55,987
- Maybe. Why don't we?
772
00:42:56,021 --> 00:42:58,714
Can we circle back
to that one can we,
773
00:42:58,748 --> 00:43:00,681
we will circle back.
774
00:43:00,716 --> 00:43:01,579
- Yeah.
775
00:43:01,613 --> 00:43:02,649
- We will circle back.
776
00:43:06,756 --> 00:43:09,621
[foreboding music]
777
00:43:14,453 --> 00:43:15,834
- [Sean] I gotta be quick
778
00:43:15,869 --> 00:43:17,560
because I got the
interview today later on.
779
00:43:18,872 --> 00:43:20,390
Cross your fingers
it all works out.
780
00:43:20,425 --> 00:43:21,737
- [Stacey] Okay.
781
00:43:22,669 --> 00:43:24,084
- Oh hey.
782
00:43:24,118 --> 00:43:26,155
Since I know you don't
have a lot of time.
783
00:43:26,189 --> 00:43:27,432
I know we had talked about,
784
00:43:27,466 --> 00:43:29,020
we needed to get
the video footage
785
00:43:29,054 --> 00:43:33,265
that you have on your
phone onto our SDS
786
00:43:33,300 --> 00:43:35,578
so that we can take them back.
787
00:43:35,613 --> 00:43:38,961
So if you could, just
give us your passcode
788
00:43:38,995 --> 00:43:40,376
and we'll go ahead
and do it all.
789
00:43:40,410 --> 00:43:41,584
You don't have to
worry about it.
790
00:43:41,619 --> 00:43:42,792
If you're gonna
be getting ready,
791
00:43:42,827 --> 00:43:43,690
we can do it while
you're getting ready.
792
00:43:43,724 --> 00:43:45,864
- I looked over it man
793
00:43:45,899 --> 00:43:47,659
and there isn't a whole
lot on there, dude.
794
00:43:47,694 --> 00:43:51,387
I don't know if I just didn't
do it right or whatever.
795
00:43:51,421 --> 00:43:53,216
But there's just, I guess I
must not have pressed a button
796
00:43:53,251 --> 00:43:55,184
or something or other
just didn't seem like it
797
00:43:55,218 --> 00:43:56,875
turned out okay.
798
00:43:56,910 --> 00:43:59,050
- Honestly, we can use
anything for b-roll.
799
00:43:59,084 --> 00:44:00,568
So even if it's stuff
just around the house.
800
00:44:00,603 --> 00:44:03,813
I mean, even if it's stuff
that you think is not good.
801
00:44:03,848 --> 00:44:07,541
- I don't think really
it picked up anything.
802
00:44:08,818 --> 00:44:10,026
I don't think there's
anything on there
803
00:44:10,061 --> 00:44:11,165
that'll work for you.
804
00:44:12,442 --> 00:44:14,652
So listen, babe.
805
00:44:14,686 --> 00:44:15,480
This is all great.
806
00:44:15,514 --> 00:44:16,412
Thank you so much.
807
00:44:16,446 --> 00:44:18,069
But I've got to get ready,
808
00:44:18,103 --> 00:44:20,623
so I'm gonna go change
real quick, okay?
809
00:44:20,658 --> 00:44:21,486
- Okay.
810
00:44:25,870 --> 00:44:28,631
[door squeaking]
811
00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:44,820
- Here. One nine, seven, eight.
812
00:44:44,854 --> 00:44:46,166
You can get into it.
813
00:45:03,770 --> 00:45:04,563
- It's Sean.
814
00:45:04,598 --> 00:45:05,841
It's a little after two.
815
00:45:07,049 --> 00:45:11,156
I've been hearing this
noise nonstop all night.
816
00:45:11,191 --> 00:45:14,332
[unintelligible noise]
817
00:45:14,366 --> 00:45:15,816
Think there's something
outside the window?
818
00:45:15,851 --> 00:45:18,198
It sounds like something's
trying to get my attention.
819
00:45:20,062 --> 00:45:21,649
So I'm gonna, I'm going
to go check it out
820
00:45:21,684 --> 00:45:23,168
and see what it is.
821
00:45:23,203 --> 00:45:27,586
I can hear it our there now,
hopefully I can catch it.
822
00:45:30,003 --> 00:45:33,247
[unintelligible noise]
823
00:45:34,524 --> 00:45:37,286
[deep breathing]
824
00:45:38,183 --> 00:45:40,945
[static buzzing]
825
00:45:42,291 --> 00:45:43,844
That's imposssible.
826
00:45:47,330 --> 00:45:48,676
It's really him.
827
00:45:49,608 --> 00:45:50,437
God.
828
00:45:53,198 --> 00:45:54,027
He's here.
829
00:45:56,374 --> 00:45:59,101
[deep breathing]
830
00:46:00,585 --> 00:46:03,036
[door creaking]
831
00:46:03,070 --> 00:46:04,106
- Thank you.
- Yeah.
832
00:46:06,177 --> 00:46:07,005
Excuse me.
833
00:46:23,090 --> 00:46:25,403
- We did not take your
phone, by the way.
834
00:46:25,437 --> 00:46:26,645
I want you to know that.
835
00:46:27,715 --> 00:46:32,720
But, we do need to make sure
836
00:46:34,032 --> 00:46:36,932
that everything that
you have, we also have.
837
00:46:38,243 --> 00:46:39,555
It's very important.
838
00:46:40,728 --> 00:46:44,111
It is the reason why
we are, let's face it,
839
00:46:44,146 --> 00:46:45,768
we're paying for
the documentary.
840
00:46:50,393 --> 00:46:53,224
- Well, [clears
throat] all right.
841
00:46:53,258 --> 00:46:54,363
I understand.
842
00:46:57,021 --> 00:46:59,126
I don't mean to keep
anything from you.
843
00:47:00,714 --> 00:47:03,372
So I think that
there's something that
you guys should see.
844
00:47:05,753 --> 00:47:06,720
I'll be right back.
845
00:47:12,277 --> 00:47:14,555
- What do you think he has?
846
00:47:14,590 --> 00:47:17,420
Did he tell you about anything?
847
00:47:17,455 --> 00:47:20,078
- [Brett] That
was super awkward.
848
00:47:20,113 --> 00:47:22,632
- This is the
stuff that we need.
849
00:47:22,667 --> 00:47:24,427
We've got to have it.
850
00:47:35,611 --> 00:47:37,613
- This is my me and my dad.
851
00:47:38,545 --> 00:47:39,649
I was eight years old.
852
00:47:40,996 --> 00:47:44,240
It was our last trip.
853
00:47:44,275 --> 00:47:45,966
And the last time
I really saw him.
854
00:47:53,008 --> 00:47:54,664
The other night.
855
00:47:54,699 --> 00:47:55,665
This is...
856
00:47:57,529 --> 00:47:58,876
I took a picture of this.
857
00:48:00,118 --> 00:48:01,671
And you can see if you look,
858
00:48:01,706 --> 00:48:05,192
you can see that's
the same shirt.
859
00:48:06,193 --> 00:48:07,574
You can see that pattern.
860
00:48:09,576 --> 00:48:10,439
Right there.
861
00:48:11,612 --> 00:48:12,890
- I don't know if I can
really see anything.
862
00:48:12,924 --> 00:48:14,236
Sean, I'm sorry.
- Look.
863
00:48:14,270 --> 00:48:15,202
Look on this.
864
00:48:15,237 --> 00:48:17,032
I mean, I'm not lying.
865
00:48:19,068 --> 00:48:21,174
Look, I mean, it's right there.
866
00:48:21,208 --> 00:48:22,416
That's the same.
867
00:48:23,521 --> 00:48:25,316
I mean, maybe
Chanell, can you see?
868
00:48:25,350 --> 00:48:27,732
I mean, right there.
Do you see it?
869
00:48:27,766 --> 00:48:31,046
- I see something. I just don't.
870
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:35,015
- He's been. It's him.
871
00:48:38,501 --> 00:48:42,367
- After we found that footage
872
00:48:42,402 --> 00:48:46,095
and after we sort of
confronted him about it,
873
00:48:47,994 --> 00:48:52,377
he was, hellbent
874
00:48:52,412 --> 00:48:55,242
to try to persuade us
that that was his father
875
00:48:55,277 --> 00:48:57,141
in those photos.
876
00:48:58,659 --> 00:48:59,937
It was something.
877
00:49:01,248 --> 00:49:03,871
But again, that was the
nature of being there.
878
00:49:03,906 --> 00:49:06,564
You got certain stuff that
was just unbelievable.
879
00:49:06,598 --> 00:49:08,704
You couldn't believe you got it.
880
00:49:08,738 --> 00:49:11,086
And then you were
two layers removed
881
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,709
because, and we discussed this,
882
00:49:13,743 --> 00:49:17,126
the DSLRs wouldn't work all
of a sudden, handheld devices,
883
00:49:17,161 --> 00:49:18,645
phones wouldn't work
all of a sudden,
884
00:49:18,679 --> 00:49:20,750
and then you're forced
to take Polaroids.
885
00:49:20,785 --> 00:49:23,236
And, you know, that's
the nature of the beast
886
00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:24,513
when it comes to
stuff like that.
887
00:49:24,547 --> 00:49:29,000
It's technology that
it's very difficult
888
00:49:29,035 --> 00:49:31,623
to use as far as proof.
889
00:49:33,591 --> 00:49:34,419
He believed it.
890
00:50:53,464 --> 00:50:56,536
- You know, in looking
at the Sean Miller case,
891
00:50:56,570 --> 00:50:59,815
we have to be very, very careful
when we check the evidence.
892
00:50:59,849 --> 00:51:02,714
We are in a day and age
where it's very easy
893
00:51:02,749 --> 00:51:05,269
to manipulate your evidence.
894
00:51:05,303 --> 00:51:09,066
So analyzing becomes
very important.
895
00:51:13,104 --> 00:51:15,244
- [Interviewer] This has
happened more than once,
896
00:51:15,279 --> 00:51:16,763
not once, but twice,
897
00:51:16,797 --> 00:51:19,766
Sean, withholding footage
from you and now Brett,
898
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,457
he's withholding
footage from you.
899
00:51:24,702 --> 00:51:29,534
- I think after
we saw the footage
900
00:51:29,569 --> 00:51:31,605
that Sean had withheld from us.
901
00:51:34,505 --> 00:51:39,475
I think Brett's perspective
on why we were there
902
00:51:40,649 --> 00:51:45,171
and why he was there,
changed greatly.
903
00:51:45,205 --> 00:51:47,863
[pensive music]
904
00:52:12,957 --> 00:52:16,202
- [Brett] [exhaling]
It's 2:32 a.m.
905
00:52:18,756 --> 00:52:21,931
I just fucking got woke
up by this loud ass sound
906
00:52:23,554 --> 00:52:24,796
coming outside.
907
00:52:24,831 --> 00:52:27,178
I don't know what
it is. It's bizarre.
908
00:52:28,697 --> 00:52:31,907
But it just keeps getting
fuckin' louder and louder.
909
00:52:33,736 --> 00:52:36,601
And I've been up for
about five minutes.
910
00:52:36,636 --> 00:52:38,396
Everyone's asleep in the house.
911
00:52:40,536 --> 00:52:41,330
[strange sound]
912
00:52:41,365 --> 00:52:42,159
Holy shit.
913
00:52:44,575 --> 00:52:45,645
That's the sound
I'm talking about.
914
00:52:45,679 --> 00:52:47,060
You fucking hear that?
915
00:52:48,889 --> 00:52:50,926
[strange sound]
916
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,859
What the fuck was that?
917
00:52:57,174 --> 00:52:58,554
I got up, I grabbed my phone
918
00:52:58,589 --> 00:53:00,591
because I don't want
to miss any footage.
919
00:53:01,833 --> 00:53:03,318
I'm going to try to get
a peek out the window
920
00:53:03,352 --> 00:53:06,804
and see if I can figure out
what is making this sound.
921
00:53:14,605 --> 00:53:18,091
[Brett breathing heavily]
922
00:53:21,232 --> 00:53:22,095
Oh, fuck.
923
00:53:24,062 --> 00:53:28,998
Dude, there's someone outside,
just fucking standing there.
924
00:53:34,487 --> 00:53:37,731
I don't want to fucking
be here right now.
925
00:53:37,766 --> 00:53:39,216
There should be no one here.
926
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,460
What the fuck is going on?
927
00:53:43,565 --> 00:53:46,395
[strange sound]
Holy shit!
928
00:53:46,430 --> 00:53:49,329
[thudding on roof]
929
00:53:52,401 --> 00:53:55,404
Someone just fucking
came running at the door
930
00:53:55,439 --> 00:53:57,303
and fucking jumped on the roof.
931
00:53:59,857 --> 00:54:01,341
And it fuckin' looked like me.
932
00:54:03,619 --> 00:54:05,587
What the fuck is
going on right now?
933
00:54:08,072 --> 00:54:08,866
Holy shit.
934
00:54:13,008 --> 00:54:15,838
- My name is James Chandler,
and I'm 54 years old
935
00:54:15,873 --> 00:54:18,151
and I'm an audio
visual specialist.
936
00:54:18,185 --> 00:54:19,842
I've been hired to
look into things
937
00:54:19,877 --> 00:54:21,223
where video has been edited
938
00:54:22,431 --> 00:54:24,675
or to see if someone
has faked something.
939
00:54:26,297 --> 00:54:28,886
I was not expecting what I saw.
940
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:33,028
I don't think if it was faked
that my emotional response,
941
00:54:33,062 --> 00:54:35,202
I mean, I've seen
a lot of video.
942
00:54:35,237 --> 00:54:37,895
I've seen really
horrible things on video.
943
00:54:37,929 --> 00:54:42,900
That is something that just
got a hold of something in me,
944
00:54:44,867 --> 00:54:46,697
and I can't explain it.
945
00:54:46,731 --> 00:54:49,631
[foreboding music]
946
00:55:01,298 --> 00:55:03,369
- [Ash] Thank you.
I appreciate it.
947
00:55:03,403 --> 00:55:04,646
[Stacey chuckling]
948
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,061
- Hey.
- Hey, baby.
949
00:55:06,095 --> 00:55:09,098
- Hey, you. What
do you have on you?
950
00:55:09,133 --> 00:55:10,237
What is this?
951
00:55:12,826 --> 00:55:14,345
- Oh, no.
952
00:55:14,380 --> 00:55:16,174
- Sean.
- What? It's nothing.
953
00:55:16,209 --> 00:55:17,762
- What do you mean?
954
00:55:19,385 --> 00:55:21,939
[static buzzes]
955
00:55:21,973 --> 00:55:24,044
- [Chanell] What
did he have on him?
956
00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:25,632
- [Stacey] Something black.
957
00:55:25,667 --> 00:55:28,048
Something really
dark out of his ear.
958
00:55:31,707 --> 00:55:33,640
- As I'm driving, I've
got the window down.
959
00:55:33,675 --> 00:55:34,883
Like I said, it was extreme.
960
00:55:34,917 --> 00:55:36,160
Like I told you before,
961
00:55:36,194 --> 00:55:39,197
it was extremely hot
that summer, you know.
962
00:55:39,232 --> 00:55:41,683
But instead of kicking the
AC on, I felt like maybe
963
00:55:41,717 --> 00:55:46,688
just getting that nice like
wind, the smell of the grass,
964
00:55:47,689 --> 00:55:50,554
the smell of the farm soil.
965
00:55:50,588 --> 00:55:53,660
I thought that might help
kind of clear my head.
966
00:55:53,695 --> 00:55:57,319
And so, you know, I'm driving
down the country roads.
967
00:55:57,354 --> 00:55:58,803
I feel like I'm
on the right way.
968
00:55:58,838 --> 00:56:01,392
I've got my hand on
the steering wheel
969
00:56:01,427 --> 00:56:03,670
and I'm just kind
of get my head out
970
00:56:03,705 --> 00:56:08,468
and I'm just feeling it
blow and I'm looking out
971
00:56:08,503 --> 00:56:12,472
and I see, you know, on the
field I could see fireflies,
972
00:56:12,507 --> 00:56:14,716
you know, which is common
at that time of year.
973
00:56:14,750 --> 00:56:16,269
You could see them move around.
974
00:56:19,514 --> 00:56:20,998
And then I realized
that they're not,
975
00:56:21,032 --> 00:56:24,829
like I realize that some of
these are pacing the car.
976
00:56:27,867 --> 00:56:30,594
And at first I'm like,
oh drunk brain, you know,
977
00:56:30,628 --> 00:56:32,837
just perception being off.
978
00:56:32,872 --> 00:56:35,012
It's dark. I'm tired.
979
00:56:35,046 --> 00:56:36,185
I'm upset.
980
00:56:39,085 --> 00:56:42,226
There was less lights at first.
981
00:56:42,260 --> 00:56:44,504
Just certain ones chasing me.
982
00:56:44,539 --> 00:56:49,267
And then I felt
like I wasn't alone.
983
00:56:49,302 --> 00:56:51,615
It felt like
something was almost
984
00:56:51,649 --> 00:56:52,650
whispering to me like that.
985
00:56:52,685 --> 00:56:54,203
So the pressure that, like.
986
00:56:54,238 --> 00:56:57,862
Like that sound was,
like, pulling me...
987
00:56:57,897 --> 00:56:59,174
Like somebody was
controlling my body
988
00:56:59,208 --> 00:57:00,347
to pull me in a
different direction.
989
00:57:00,382 --> 00:57:02,280
I realized very
quickly that every time
990
00:57:02,315 --> 00:57:05,076
I wanted to go back home,
to go back to my wife,
991
00:57:05,111 --> 00:57:07,734
to go back to bed and
wake up the next morning
992
00:57:07,769 --> 00:57:11,566
and just hope this day goes
away and I can start over fresh.
993
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,706
The more I kept being
pulled somewhere else,
994
00:57:13,740 --> 00:57:16,329
and the more I
fought against it,
995
00:57:16,363 --> 00:57:19,470
the stronger like the
brighter the lights
996
00:57:19,505 --> 00:57:20,851
or the brighter
the fireflies were.
997
00:57:20,885 --> 00:57:22,266
And I realized they
weren't fireflies,
998
00:57:22,300 --> 00:57:25,511
they were these motes,
these lights everywhere.
999
00:57:25,545 --> 00:57:29,515
And it was almost like, you
know, I had the car radio
1000
00:57:29,549 --> 00:57:31,206
started getting loud
almost to the point
1001
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,588
where it's like high
pitched and I shut it off.
1002
00:57:33,622 --> 00:57:36,245
I couldn't deal with,
it was sensory overload.
1003
00:57:37,419 --> 00:57:38,696
And I'm just driving
through the dark,
1004
00:57:38,731 --> 00:57:39,732
but it's not dark anymore.
1005
00:57:39,766 --> 00:57:40,974
It's so bright.
1006
00:57:41,009 --> 00:57:42,424
It's brighter than any
daylight I've ever seen.
1007
00:57:42,459 --> 00:57:45,151
And I feel like as I'm
zipping down these roads,
1008
00:57:45,185 --> 00:57:46,670
I'm going so fast,
1009
00:57:46,704 --> 00:57:48,326
I don't even know if I'm
even on the road anymore.
1010
00:57:48,361 --> 00:57:51,019
I can't tell what's
up or down anymore.
1011
00:57:51,053 --> 00:57:52,227
I'm just going.
1012
00:58:02,996 --> 00:58:05,171
- Were you ever afraid for
your own personal safety.
1013
00:58:05,205 --> 00:58:07,829
- Yes. Yes.
1014
00:58:07,863 --> 00:58:10,383
- Yours and the crew?
- Everyone's.
1015
00:58:10,417 --> 00:58:13,006
Everyone's. We were
afraid for my safety.
1016
00:58:13,041 --> 00:58:15,043
Especially Ash's safety.
1017
00:58:16,769 --> 00:58:20,393
Sean, Stacey, Brett. Everyone.
1018
00:58:36,616 --> 00:58:37,824
- [Woman] I can go talk
to her if you want.
1019
00:58:37,859 --> 00:58:39,757
- [Sean] You like
the burger, man?
1020
00:58:39,792 --> 00:58:42,242
- Well, I will say, you
made sure it was dead.
1021
00:58:42,277 --> 00:58:43,589
- Drew, could you stop?
1022
00:58:43,623 --> 00:58:46,281
- Well, I mean-
- Everything's fine.
1023
00:58:47,593 --> 00:58:50,112
- I mean, did you at
least call Dave today?
1024
00:58:50,147 --> 00:58:52,183
- No.
- Here we go.
1025
00:58:52,218 --> 00:58:53,460
- I didn't call Dave.
1026
00:58:53,495 --> 00:58:55,221
- How many of these
do I have to set up?
1027
00:58:55,255 --> 00:58:58,017
I'm trying real fucking hard
1028
00:58:58,051 --> 00:59:00,122
to get you going to set you up.
1029
00:59:00,157 --> 00:59:01,089
No, man, really.
1030
00:59:02,642 --> 00:59:04,886
- I want to be able to
just have you guys over
1031
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,163
and have a good time.
1032
00:59:07,267 --> 00:59:09,580
- Yeah. I can't fucking
do this anymore.
1033
00:59:09,615 --> 00:59:10,650
- Drew sit down!
1034
00:59:10,685 --> 00:59:12,859
- No.
- Come on.
1035
00:59:12,894 --> 00:59:14,136
- Nice.
1036
00:59:14,171 --> 00:59:16,000
- Can't I even go
to the bathroom?
1037
00:59:16,035 --> 00:59:17,312
My God.
1038
00:59:17,346 --> 00:59:18,382
- We have a bathroom
right in there, man.
1039
00:59:18,416 --> 00:59:20,833
Oh, my God. 10 feet away.
1040
00:59:20,867 --> 00:59:22,213
- Just stop.
1041
00:59:22,248 --> 00:59:23,732
- [Chanell] Should I
turn the camera away
1042
00:59:23,767 --> 00:59:24,837
from the peeing guy?
1043
00:59:27,978 --> 00:59:29,462
- He's been a mess
for a week now.
1044
00:59:29,496 --> 00:59:31,878
I don't know what's wrong
1045
00:59:31,913 --> 00:59:33,915
- I'm sorry. I did
try calling him.
1046
00:59:33,949 --> 00:59:35,399
It just didn't work out.
1047
00:59:35,433 --> 00:59:37,504
- We just need to
change the subject.
1048
00:59:37,539 --> 00:59:39,783
No more talk about it.
1049
00:59:39,817 --> 00:59:41,647
Drew, what are you doing?
1050
00:59:41,681 --> 00:59:42,889
- What's going on?
1051
00:59:42,924 --> 00:59:44,960
- You guys see that
fucking guy out there?
1052
00:59:44,995 --> 00:59:46,410
- [Stacey] Who?
1053
00:59:46,444 --> 00:59:47,549
- Could you stop, there's
nothing out there.
1054
00:59:47,584 --> 00:59:48,757
- No, I was just
taking a fucking piss,
1055
00:59:48,792 --> 00:59:50,897
and I see this guy out there,
1056
00:59:50,932 --> 00:59:52,692
he's like, fucking
staring at us.
1057
00:59:52,727 --> 00:59:55,281
- There's nothing out there.
- He's probably just a farmer.
1058
00:59:55,315 --> 00:59:56,213
This is farmland.
1059
00:59:56,247 --> 00:59:58,456
And it's probably just a farmer-
1060
00:59:58,491 --> 01:00:00,148
- You've had a lot to drink.
1061
01:00:00,182 --> 01:00:02,426
- Yeah, I always have
a fucking lot to drink.
1062
01:00:03,496 --> 01:00:04,739
This guy's staring at you.
1063
01:00:04,773 --> 01:00:06,326
He's staring at you,
he's staring at you.
1064
01:00:06,361 --> 01:00:09,019
- Drew, dude, honestly,
he's not going to bother us.
1065
01:00:09,053 --> 01:00:11,469
Just come and sit down,
we'll have a drink together.
1066
01:00:11,504 --> 01:00:13,195
Just eat some more burgers.
1067
01:00:13,230 --> 01:00:15,819
Man, we're gonna fill
up, it's gonna be nice.
1068
01:00:15,853 --> 01:00:17,890
Don't worry about that guy.
1069
01:00:17,924 --> 01:00:19,546
- It's okay.
1070
01:00:19,581 --> 01:00:21,548
- It's no big deal.
- Stop, honey.
1071
01:00:21,583 --> 01:00:22,791
- There's no big deal.
1072
01:00:22,826 --> 01:00:24,068
- No, fuck dude. I'm
going over there.
1073
01:00:24,103 --> 01:00:25,242
- Drew, don't.
1074
01:00:25,276 --> 01:00:26,519
- I'm going out there.
1075
01:00:26,553 --> 01:00:28,072
[everyone speaking
at the same time]
1076
01:00:28,107 --> 01:00:30,419
- He's not hurting anything
if there is someone.
1077
01:00:30,454 --> 01:00:31,455
- [Ash] We should probably
follow him over there.
1078
01:00:31,489 --> 01:00:32,801
- Stop, Drew. Come on.
1079
01:00:32,836 --> 01:00:33,906
- No!
- Drew.
1080
01:00:33,940 --> 01:00:36,080
- Let him go.
- I'm going.
1081
01:00:37,461 --> 01:00:39,739
I'm going.
- Go around the barn.
1082
01:00:39,774 --> 01:00:42,086
If you're gonna go over there
1083
01:00:42,121 --> 01:00:45,642
and get yourself fucking
arrested, asshole.
1084
01:00:55,962 --> 01:00:56,894
- [Ash] Okay. Somebody does
need to get cameras on.
1085
01:00:56,929 --> 01:00:58,447
There is somebody out there.
1086
01:00:59,656 --> 01:01:01,002
There is somebody out there.
1087
01:01:04,453 --> 01:01:06,732
- [Drew] Hey man, what's up?
1088
01:01:08,803 --> 01:01:10,011
What's up dude.
1089
01:01:12,565 --> 01:01:14,325
- [Ash] Did you see
that? Did you see that?
1090
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,950
[Drew speaks indistinctly]
1091
01:01:22,230 --> 01:01:23,058
The fuck.
1092
01:01:25,785 --> 01:01:27,960
You guys, by the way,
nobody go out there, okay?
1093
01:01:32,758 --> 01:01:33,966
When also Sean
and Stacey told us
1094
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:35,761
that this is also
not their land.
1095
01:01:35,795 --> 01:01:37,659
What the fuck is that?
1096
01:01:40,075 --> 01:01:40,938
Is he coming back?
1097
01:01:50,810 --> 01:01:53,123
Where the fuck's
the other guy at?
1098
01:01:54,331 --> 01:01:56,057
Is anybody catching the
other fucking person
1099
01:01:56,091 --> 01:01:57,334
on their camera?
1100
01:01:57,368 --> 01:01:58,576
Could someone please
fucking answer me?
1101
01:01:58,611 --> 01:02:01,165
- [Chanell] I don't
see the other guy.
1102
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:02,477
- [Ash] I'm not seeing a
goddamn thing out there.
1103
01:02:02,511 --> 01:02:04,410
Where the fuck did
the other guy go?
1104
01:02:05,825 --> 01:02:06,792
Did he fucking punch him?
1105
01:02:06,826 --> 01:02:08,034
Is he laying down there?
1106
01:02:08,069 --> 01:02:09,726
- [Chanell] Drew,
where's the other guy?
1107
01:02:14,109 --> 01:02:15,593
- [Brett] You okay?
1108
01:02:15,628 --> 01:02:18,700
- [Ash] I don't know
what's going on.
1109
01:02:21,772 --> 01:02:23,153
Okay. Something's not right.
1110
01:02:25,914 --> 01:02:26,743
Drew?
1111
01:02:27,778 --> 01:02:29,504
You know where you're at?
1112
01:02:29,538 --> 01:02:31,609
You know what? You need
to go get Tasha now.
1113
01:02:31,644 --> 01:02:32,507
Now.
1114
01:02:32,541 --> 01:02:34,129
- [Chanelle] Tasha!
1115
01:02:39,928 --> 01:02:42,206
- You know, it's weird because
1116
01:02:42,241 --> 01:02:44,588
you have some of
these things on video.
1117
01:02:44,622 --> 01:02:47,729
We have some of these
things that we recorded.
1118
01:02:48,868 --> 01:02:52,354
And in my mind's
eye, my mind's eye,
1119
01:02:52,389 --> 01:02:57,394
it's so sort of hazy that...
1120
01:02:58,602 --> 01:03:01,294
you almost have to try
to remember the footage
1121
01:03:02,675 --> 01:03:06,713
more so than your
memory, which is strange,
1122
01:03:06,748 --> 01:03:10,890
and I think it's because
it's just so bizarre.
1123
01:03:10,925 --> 01:03:15,481
Yeah, there was very clearly
there was a figure there.
1124
01:03:19,347 --> 01:03:22,660
And then there wasn't
and we all three saw it.
1125
01:03:22,695 --> 01:03:27,665
We all three were
experiencing the same thing.
1126
01:03:33,085 --> 01:03:34,155
I can't explain it.
1127
01:03:38,745 --> 01:03:41,231
Drew. We need to
know if you're okay.
1128
01:03:41,265 --> 01:03:42,059
Hey Drew.
1129
01:03:43,026 --> 01:03:44,682
Drew.
1130
01:03:44,717 --> 01:03:46,201
Can we talk about what
happened up there?
1131
01:03:46,236 --> 01:03:50,240
Because I'm not seeing the
other guy out there at all.
1132
01:03:50,274 --> 01:03:52,276
And I'm afraid that
you did something.
1133
01:03:54,106 --> 01:03:56,936
We need to know because
we've got this all on camera.
1134
01:03:56,971 --> 01:04:00,491
No, no, no, no, no, no.
1135
01:04:00,526 --> 01:04:03,080
You need to calm down.
1136
01:04:03,115 --> 01:04:07,533
You need to calm down and tell
us what happened out there.
1137
01:04:07,567 --> 01:04:10,916
Please calm down and
tell us what happened.
1138
01:04:10,950 --> 01:04:11,744
- Drew!
1139
01:04:13,263 --> 01:04:14,471
He's scaring me.
1140
01:04:14,505 --> 01:04:15,990
Drew, you're scaring me.
1141
01:04:16,024 --> 01:04:17,577
- [Brett] Can we at least just
get him up over here. Okay.
1142
01:04:17,612 --> 01:04:19,131
- [Tasha] Stop it. Just relax.
1143
01:04:21,374 --> 01:04:24,032
- What the fuck is going on?
- Please stop.
1144
01:04:24,067 --> 01:04:25,275
- [Ash] Steady your breathing.
1145
01:04:25,309 --> 01:04:28,312
- [Tasha] Drew you're
fucking scaring me.
1146
01:04:28,347 --> 01:04:30,418
- [Sean] Tasha, I'm
calling the cops.
1147
01:04:30,452 --> 01:04:32,385
- You know he has a warrant!
1148
01:04:32,420 --> 01:04:33,559
- [Sean] He needs help.
1149
01:04:33,593 --> 01:04:34,353
- [Stacey] We can't
call the cops.
1150
01:04:34,387 --> 01:04:36,320
- You can't do that.
1151
01:04:36,355 --> 01:04:37,494
Stop, Drew.
1152
01:04:37,528 --> 01:04:39,116
- Okay, okay, okay.
- Help him!
1153
01:04:39,151 --> 01:04:40,531
- Okay, okay.
- Oh, my God.
1154
01:04:41,463 --> 01:04:44,052
Oh, my God.
[Drew coughing]
1155
01:04:44,087 --> 01:04:45,088
Oh, Jesus Christ.
1156
01:04:46,296 --> 01:04:48,954
- Oh. Oh, my God.
1157
01:04:48,988 --> 01:04:50,196
- [Brett] What? What the fuck?
1158
01:04:50,231 --> 01:04:51,853
- [Chanell] All
right. Why is it?
1159
01:04:51,888 --> 01:04:54,131
What's up with the color?
1160
01:04:54,166 --> 01:04:55,512
- Are you okay?
- Oh, my God.
1161
01:04:55,546 --> 01:04:58,687
[Drew grunting]
1162
01:04:58,722 --> 01:05:03,002
- I don't know how to explain...
1163
01:05:06,350 --> 01:05:09,836
how I know it's real.
1164
01:05:09,871 --> 01:05:14,393
- So, there's no doubt
in your mind right now.
1165
01:05:14,427 --> 01:05:17,603
- There's no doubt.
No doubt at all.
1166
01:05:17,637 --> 01:05:20,295
[ominous music]
1167
01:05:43,008 --> 01:05:47,460
- What's up man, I didn't
even see you come out.
1168
01:05:47,495 --> 01:05:48,323
Ash?
1169
01:06:33,782 --> 01:06:34,611
Ash?
1170
01:06:39,340 --> 01:06:40,168
Ash?
1171
01:06:49,695 --> 01:06:52,215
- [Interviewer] Why do
you think that Brett
1172
01:06:52,249 --> 01:06:54,493
didn't show you these videos?
1173
01:06:55,873 --> 01:07:00,844
- I think Brett's experience
was very different
1174
01:07:02,432 --> 01:07:06,056
from my experience and
from Chanell's experience.
1175
01:07:07,506 --> 01:07:12,407
And, I think Brett
was going through
1176
01:07:13,167 --> 01:07:14,720
something very personal.
1177
01:07:17,343 --> 01:07:20,967
Something very
specific and singular.
1178
01:07:21,002 --> 01:07:23,591
[somber music]
1179
01:07:36,914 --> 01:07:39,262
- No. No.
1180
01:07:40,608 --> 01:07:41,954
These things?
1181
01:07:41,988 --> 01:07:43,507
Well, let me make
something abundantly clear.
1182
01:07:43,542 --> 01:07:46,269
These things were not human.
1183
01:07:46,303 --> 01:07:49,720
They were not of this
Earth, of this planet.
1184
01:07:50,963 --> 01:07:53,621
What they wanted me to see.
1185
01:07:56,072 --> 01:08:00,006
It's like an actor, when
you're watching a show,
1186
01:08:00,041 --> 01:08:02,768
you see an actor
break character,
1187
01:08:02,802 --> 01:08:05,633
whether it's like a
skit comedy or just
1188
01:08:05,667 --> 01:08:08,222
behind the scenes
on like a movie.
1189
01:08:08,256 --> 01:08:10,500
And you see them break
character for a second,
1190
01:08:10,534 --> 01:08:14,193
you're pull away, you're
pulled out of the moment
1191
01:08:14,228 --> 01:08:16,575
that they're trying
to bring to you,
1192
01:08:16,609 --> 01:08:18,715
whether it's comedy
or drama or whatever.
1193
01:08:18,749 --> 01:08:19,957
You're pulled out
of that moment.
1194
01:08:19,992 --> 01:08:22,339
You realize that it's
fake. It's a facade.
1195
01:08:23,823 --> 01:08:28,242
That facade, these faces of
these people that I'm seeing.
1196
01:08:34,938 --> 01:08:39,874
They were real people
for me at first.
1197
01:08:39,908 --> 01:08:42,394
It was something for me to
hold on to as an anchor.
1198
01:08:44,706 --> 01:08:48,365
And it was a way
for me to feel safe.
1199
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:52,887
And then for a brief
moment, that facade dropped.
1200
01:08:52,921 --> 01:08:55,338
And I was completely ...
1201
01:08:56,477 --> 01:08:57,926
my mind can't even comprehend
1202
01:08:57,961 --> 01:09:00,032
the horror that you would see,
1203
01:09:00,066 --> 01:09:03,587
the ability for life
around me to be distorted,
1204
01:09:03,622 --> 01:09:06,452
my safety to crumble around me.
1205
01:09:06,487 --> 01:09:09,455
And what I saw.
1206
01:09:09,490 --> 01:09:11,699
The more I hold on to that
and the more they realize
1207
01:09:11,733 --> 01:09:12,803
that I was holding on to that,
1208
01:09:12,838 --> 01:09:14,978
the more they ripped that away,
1209
01:09:15,012 --> 01:09:18,430
and the less I can
even remember now.
1210
01:09:19,672 --> 01:09:24,401
I feel insane thinking
that these things
1211
01:09:24,436 --> 01:09:28,025
were anything but
just a bad memory.
1212
01:09:32,444 --> 01:09:37,414
It's like, losing
pieces of myself.
1213
01:10:06,167 --> 01:10:08,031
- [Ash] Okay. Now, this
is looking pretty good.
1214
01:10:09,343 --> 01:10:11,103
So if you could please
give us your name,
1215
01:10:11,137 --> 01:10:13,761
your age, and your
occupation, please.
1216
01:10:13,795 --> 01:10:15,280
- My name is Brenda Floyd.
1217
01:10:15,314 --> 01:10:19,698
I'm 53 years old and I am
a regression therapist.
1218
01:10:19,732 --> 01:10:22,183
In addition to being
a shamanic minister,
1219
01:10:22,218 --> 01:10:25,773
a Reiki practitioner and
a breathwork facilitator.
1220
01:10:26,946 --> 01:10:28,154
- [Ash] You work with people
1221
01:10:28,189 --> 01:10:29,363
who are trying to
remember things
1222
01:10:29,397 --> 01:10:32,124
that obviously are
very painful for them.
1223
01:10:32,158 --> 01:10:36,024
Can you speak a little bit
about your experiences there?
1224
01:10:36,059 --> 01:10:39,752
- Well, in my experience, when
people have blocks like that,
1225
01:10:39,787 --> 01:10:43,929
it is due to some sort
of trauma in their life.
1226
01:10:43,963 --> 01:10:45,448
It can be from childhood.
1227
01:10:45,482 --> 01:10:47,519
It can be from a past life.
1228
01:10:47,553 --> 01:10:49,452
It can be from
current situations.
1229
01:10:49,486 --> 01:10:52,524
But it is usually
some form of PTSD.
1230
01:11:01,498 --> 01:11:03,120
Want you to take a
nice deep breath.
1231
01:11:07,401 --> 01:11:09,299
Just listen to my voice.
1232
01:11:11,750 --> 01:11:13,993
Wherever we go on this
journey, you will be safe
1233
01:11:14,028 --> 01:11:16,099
if you just listen to my voice.
1234
01:11:18,481 --> 01:11:21,069
[gentle music]
1235
01:11:26,316 --> 01:11:29,457
Sean, I want you to
think about a time
1236
01:11:31,079 --> 01:11:35,221
or remember a time
in July of 2013.
1237
01:11:41,780 --> 01:11:43,368
- I don't want to.
1238
01:11:43,402 --> 01:11:44,990
- [Brenda] Why not?
1239
01:11:48,407 --> 01:11:49,270
- It hurts.
1240
01:11:51,548 --> 01:11:55,172
- [Brenda] Can you
see anything, Sean?
1241
01:11:55,207 --> 01:11:56,760
Colors? Structures?
1242
01:12:02,628 --> 01:12:04,665
- It's hot. Humid inside.
1243
01:12:14,122 --> 01:12:18,403
- [Brenda] Are you alone?
Are you with other people?
1244
01:12:19,990 --> 01:12:21,992
- [Ash] Just keep going.
1245
01:12:23,580 --> 01:12:25,133
- There's others.
1246
01:12:25,168 --> 01:12:25,996
Stacey.
1247
01:12:27,722 --> 01:12:28,792
Mostly myself.
1248
01:12:30,415 --> 01:12:31,519
- [Ash] I'm almost done.
1249
01:12:31,554 --> 01:12:33,245
Seriously, it's almost done...
1250
01:12:33,279 --> 01:12:36,904
- [Brenda] In mid-July. 2013,
do remember where you were?
1251
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,085
- [Ash] I got nothing.
Dude, I'm out.
1252
01:12:47,086 --> 01:12:48,294
- [Brett] I'm out too.
1253
01:12:48,329 --> 01:12:50,158
[indistinct]
1254
01:12:50,193 --> 01:12:51,263
- [Sean] We're fighting.
1255
01:12:53,990 --> 01:12:54,818
Arguing.
1256
01:12:56,372 --> 01:12:57,511
- [Brenda] Do you remember
1257
01:12:57,545 --> 01:13:00,030
what you were
arguing about, Sean?
1258
01:13:01,100 --> 01:13:04,725
- [exhales] Our time together.
1259
01:13:04,759 --> 01:13:06,382
She's mad.
1260
01:13:07,693 --> 01:13:09,385
We're not connecting.
1261
01:13:11,317 --> 01:13:12,111
Not like we were.
1262
01:13:13,354 --> 01:13:16,702
- [Brenda] Is there a
reason for that Sean?
1263
01:13:20,672 --> 01:13:22,812
- They're the reason.
1264
01:13:22,846 --> 01:13:24,089
I blame myself.
1265
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:32,235
[Brenda speaking indistinctly]
1266
01:13:32,269 --> 01:13:34,410
- [Ash] Chanell, I'm
getting a strong breeze,
1267
01:13:34,444 --> 01:13:36,170
coming through here, you
need to watch those candles.
1268
01:13:42,625 --> 01:13:43,488
- [Sean] We fight.
1269
01:13:46,767 --> 01:13:47,940
I leave..
1270
01:13:47,975 --> 01:13:50,633
[static buzzes]
1271
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:57,950
- [Brenda] Sean, can you
tell me where you went?
1272
01:13:57,985 --> 01:13:59,504
- I, I left.
1273
01:13:59,538 --> 01:14:01,195
I don't know where I went.
1274
01:14:02,576 --> 01:14:05,682
- [Brenda] Can you look
around and see where you are?
1275
01:14:05,717 --> 01:14:08,996
- There's lights. There's...
1276
01:14:09,030 --> 01:14:10,549
They're following me in the car.
1277
01:14:12,724 --> 01:14:14,484
- [Brenda] You're
in your car driving.
1278
01:14:15,623 --> 01:14:17,314
- I think.
1279
01:14:18,384 --> 01:14:19,455
I can't tell.
1280
01:14:20,594 --> 01:14:22,112
I can't feel the wheel.
1281
01:14:22,147 --> 01:14:24,839
The lights are
getting so bright.
1282
01:14:24,874 --> 01:14:25,840
- Can you look
through the light?
1283
01:14:25,875 --> 01:14:27,186
- No.
- See past the light.
1284
01:14:28,981 --> 01:14:30,362
- They don't want me to.
1285
01:14:30,396 --> 01:14:32,951
- Who's "they"?
- I'm trying to.
1286
01:14:32,985 --> 01:14:34,504
- [Brenda] Who's "they" Sean?
1287
01:14:34,539 --> 01:14:37,024
- They don't want me to know.
1288
01:14:37,058 --> 01:14:38,819
- Can you look at
their faces, Sean.
1289
01:14:41,891 --> 01:14:43,375
- No, they don't.
1290
01:14:44,859 --> 01:14:47,448
- [Brenda] Can you tell me
what they look like Sean?
1291
01:14:49,795 --> 01:14:51,279
- I'll try to see, but.
1292
01:14:53,558 --> 01:14:55,560
- [Brenda] Show me their faces.
1293
01:14:55,594 --> 01:14:57,251
- They won't let me.
1294
01:14:59,046 --> 01:15:00,254
Ah!
1295
01:15:00,288 --> 01:15:01,600
- [Brenda] Try to relax
Sean. Try to relax.
1296
01:15:01,635 --> 01:15:03,188
Take a deep breath.
1297
01:15:03,222 --> 01:15:04,500
You're okay.
- There.
1298
01:15:04,534 --> 01:15:05,328
They're here.
1299
01:15:05,362 --> 01:15:08,400
[electronic distortion]
1300
01:15:08,434 --> 01:15:09,815
[Sean groans]
1301
01:15:09,850 --> 01:15:11,610
- [Brenda] What's
wrong with him?
1302
01:15:11,645 --> 01:15:14,924
- [Ash] Keep going.
Keep going, dude.
1303
01:15:14,958 --> 01:15:17,513
[Sean roaring]
1304
01:15:20,446 --> 01:15:21,240
Brenda.
1305
01:15:22,725 --> 01:15:23,726
Brenda, seriously.
1306
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:25,106
Hey, hey, hey.
1307
01:15:25,141 --> 01:15:25,935
I just need you.
1308
01:15:25,969 --> 01:15:27,246
Just come inside.
1309
01:15:27,281 --> 01:15:28,593
Just sign a couple
of consent forms.
1310
01:15:28,627 --> 01:15:30,215
- I don't know what
the fuck that was,
1311
01:15:30,249 --> 01:15:31,630
but I'm fucking out of here.
1312
01:15:35,047 --> 01:15:36,842
- [Ash] Ahhh, fuck me.
1313
01:15:45,333 --> 01:15:48,854
- So looking back, Chanell, if
you could have done anything
1314
01:15:48,889 --> 01:15:50,925
differently, what
would you have changed?
1315
01:15:52,030 --> 01:15:53,652
- We would have left.
1316
01:15:53,687 --> 01:15:56,897
We would have left
earlier or left before
1317
01:15:59,209 --> 01:16:03,455
the shit hit the fan,
before, all of that happened,
1318
01:16:06,147 --> 01:16:07,355
we would have left.
1319
01:16:07,390 --> 01:16:11,981
We would have talked
Ash into leaving
1320
01:16:12,015 --> 01:16:16,157
and not staying to
get the best footage.
1321
01:16:20,023 --> 01:16:21,024
We would have left.
1322
01:16:22,232 --> 01:16:24,545
We would have all
gotten to leave.
1323
01:16:25,995 --> 01:16:27,168
- [Interviewer] But then
you wouldn't have had
1324
01:16:27,203 --> 01:16:28,791
what you have.
1325
01:16:28,825 --> 01:16:33,589
- And maybe we wouldn't
have lost what we lost too.
1326
01:16:33,623 --> 01:16:36,177
[somber music]
1327
01:16:46,602 --> 01:16:51,572
- So that fifth day, we were
just, it was a workhorse day.
1328
01:16:52,711 --> 01:16:54,817
I mean, it was all about
like, we need to get
1329
01:16:54,851 --> 01:16:56,681
all the shots we didn't get.
1330
01:16:56,715 --> 01:16:59,200
We need to get any interview
questions we didn't get.
1331
01:16:59,235 --> 01:17:00,788
So it was all about
pick up, pick up,
1332
01:17:00,823 --> 01:17:03,204
pick up, pick up, all day long.
1333
01:17:03,239 --> 01:17:07,174
And I think we didn't even
realize how late we were there.
1334
01:17:08,416 --> 01:17:11,557
And so we started to
sort of break down.
1335
01:17:11,592 --> 01:17:16,528
And at that point, I think
we also sort of realized
1336
01:17:17,909 --> 01:17:20,221
that we were there too late.
1337
01:17:20,256 --> 01:17:23,086
And I mean, we were all
struck with that feeling.
1338
01:17:23,121 --> 01:17:25,226
It wasn't just that
we were there late
1339
01:17:25,261 --> 01:17:27,435
and we were ready to take off.
1340
01:17:27,470 --> 01:17:29,506
We were there too late.
1341
01:17:33,234 --> 01:17:34,719
There's nothing that
we don't know about,
1342
01:17:34,753 --> 01:17:36,203
nothing that we can't see.
1343
01:17:36,237 --> 01:17:38,930
- [Brett] I need the lights
and I need the keys to the van.
1344
01:17:38,964 --> 01:17:40,414
- [Ash] Okay.
1345
01:17:40,448 --> 01:17:42,588
Do you want to go ahead
and take that last bag out?
1346
01:17:42,623 --> 01:17:45,661
Put the lights and the
rest of the lenses away.
1347
01:17:45,695 --> 01:17:46,903
- [Brett] All right.
1348
01:17:46,938 --> 01:17:49,319
I'll be back to get
the rest of the shit.
1349
01:17:55,187 --> 01:17:56,637
- [Brett] Goddamn.
1350
01:17:56,672 --> 01:17:59,398
[speaks indistinctly]
1351
01:17:59,433 --> 01:18:02,332
[foreboding music]
1352
01:18:03,230 --> 01:18:06,198
[car doors opening]
1353
01:18:06,233 --> 01:18:09,063
[gear clattering]
1354
01:18:11,583 --> 01:18:13,378
What the fuck is that?
1355
01:18:26,702 --> 01:18:28,600
Hey, hey, hey.
1356
01:18:28,634 --> 01:18:30,291
Shut the lights off.
1357
01:18:32,708 --> 01:18:33,812
Is that on?
1358
01:18:33,847 --> 01:18:34,640
Is that on?
1359
01:18:34,675 --> 01:18:35,503
C'mere.
1360
01:18:38,644 --> 01:18:40,474
Come here.
- What's up?
1361
01:18:41,682 --> 01:18:43,097
- [Ash] Can I at least
turn my camera on?
1362
01:18:43,132 --> 01:18:46,929
[Brett speaking indistinctly]
1363
01:18:48,896 --> 01:18:50,173
- [Brett] What the
fuck is out there?
1364
01:18:50,208 --> 01:18:52,831
You see that?
- The lights on the horizon.
1365
01:18:52,866 --> 01:18:55,351
[indistinct whispering]
1366
01:18:55,385 --> 01:18:58,423
- [Ash] Okay, I have no
fucking idea what that is.
1367
01:19:02,807 --> 01:19:04,878
I'm going to actually
find the flashlight.
1368
01:19:07,294 --> 01:19:09,434
Do we know where
the flashlight is?
1369
01:19:09,468 --> 01:19:11,022
We were going to
find it earlier.
1370
01:19:12,540 --> 01:19:15,233
Course I'm going out there.
1371
01:19:15,267 --> 01:19:16,441
I've got a camera and
I've got a flashlight.
1372
01:19:16,475 --> 01:19:18,581
So that's what I'm doing.
1373
01:19:21,377 --> 01:19:24,587
- [Chanelle] Can you
just give me a minute?
1374
01:19:24,621 --> 01:19:26,520
- [Ash] I'm going out.
1375
01:19:26,554 --> 01:19:28,867
- No. Don't go out there.
- Ash! Ash!
1376
01:19:28,902 --> 01:19:30,835
- [Ash] I'm going out.
1377
01:19:30,869 --> 01:19:33,769
[foreboding music]
1378
01:19:42,501 --> 01:19:46,264
- [Chanelle] I don't
understand why he's gotta dive
1379
01:19:46,298 --> 01:19:47,955
right into these things.
1380
01:19:47,990 --> 01:19:52,166
- [Brett] What the fuck
do you think that is?
1381
01:19:52,201 --> 01:19:53,133
Look at it!
1382
01:20:01,797 --> 01:20:02,625
See it?
1383
01:20:10,253 --> 01:20:13,981
[foreboding music continues]
1384
01:20:57,231 --> 01:20:58,474
- [Ash] Holy fucking shit.
1385
01:20:59,578 --> 01:21:02,719
Shit!.
[being screams]
1386
01:21:11,314 --> 01:21:13,799
[Ash panting]
1387
01:21:16,354 --> 01:21:17,251
Oh, my God.
1388
01:21:20,945 --> 01:21:22,429
You gotta tell Stacey.
1389
01:21:22,463 --> 01:21:24,293
She's gotta call, she's got
to call the fucking cops.
1390
01:21:24,327 --> 01:21:25,950
She's gotta to call 911.
1391
01:21:25,984 --> 01:21:27,744
She's got to do it now.
- What is it?
1392
01:21:27,779 --> 01:21:30,333
- [Ash] She's got to do it now.
1393
01:21:31,817 --> 01:21:35,925
- [Interviewer] So tell me,
Eric, this has been dubbed
1394
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:39,584
or coined the alliteration
of the Miller monster.
1395
01:21:39,618 --> 01:21:40,516
Do you know how?
1396
01:21:40,550 --> 01:21:43,001
Who started that? Do you know?
1397
01:21:43,036 --> 01:21:45,176
- I'm not sure where
that came from.
1398
01:21:45,210 --> 01:21:48,282
Once the snippet came out
and the face came out,
1399
01:21:48,317 --> 01:21:50,146
people started dubbing
it the Miller Monster.
1400
01:21:50,181 --> 01:21:53,943
I'm not sure who exactly
coined that phrase,
1401
01:21:53,978 --> 01:21:56,842
but it's it's been around
for a little while now.
1402
01:21:58,292 --> 01:22:00,916
[pensive music]
1403
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:12,858
- [Dispatcher] 911.
What's your emergency?
1404
01:22:12,893 --> 01:22:15,378
- [Stacey] We need
someone here immediately.
1405
01:22:15,413 --> 01:22:16,862
There are people there.
1406
01:22:16,897 --> 01:22:19,210
There's a lot of people
trying to get into my house.
1407
01:22:19,244 --> 01:22:21,384
- [Dispatcher] Okay.
How many people, ma'am?
1408
01:22:21,419 --> 01:22:22,661
- [Stacey] I don't know.
1409
01:22:22,696 --> 01:22:24,077
I don't know how many
people there's just...
1410
01:22:24,111 --> 01:22:25,837
I don't know.
1411
01:22:25,871 --> 01:22:28,046
- [Dispatcher] Are they
inside the house, ma'am.
1412
01:22:28,081 --> 01:22:29,806
- [Stacey] No. We have
people inside the house,
1413
01:22:29,841 --> 01:22:30,842
there's about five of us.
1414
01:22:30,876 --> 01:22:32,257
You guys, where's Sean?
1415
01:22:32,292 --> 01:22:33,396
Where is Sean?
1416
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:36,917
We need someone here.
1417
01:22:36,952 --> 01:22:38,643
- [Dispatcher] Okay, ma'am,
1418
01:22:38,677 --> 01:22:40,783
can you give me
your address, ma'am?
1419
01:22:40,817 --> 01:22:41,749
- [Stacey] We're at [beep].
1420
01:22:43,579 --> 01:22:44,787
- [Dispatcher] Okay, Ma'am.
1421
01:22:44,821 --> 01:22:46,064
I need you to stay
on the line with me.
1422
01:22:46,099 --> 01:22:47,238
I need you to tell
me what's going on.
1423
01:22:47,272 --> 01:22:48,446
- [Stacey] You
guys, where is Sean?
1424
01:22:50,241 --> 01:22:53,451
- I've been looking
outside, I don't know.
1425
01:22:53,485 --> 01:22:54,452
I don't know.
1426
01:22:54,486 --> 01:22:55,832
I don't know.
1427
01:22:55,867 --> 01:22:57,144
- [Stacey] What do you
mean, you don't know?
1428
01:22:57,179 --> 01:22:58,801
- [Ash] Because we
haven't seen him.
1429
01:22:58,835 --> 01:23:01,010
We thought he might
have been outside.
1430
01:23:01,045 --> 01:23:03,185
I can't see-
- There are people outside!
1431
01:23:03,219 --> 01:23:04,841
- [Ash] Brett, can
you see anything?
1432
01:23:04,876 --> 01:23:06,464
- [Brett] No, I haven't.
1433
01:23:06,498 --> 01:23:08,466
- [Ash] So let's just
get the doors locked.
1434
01:23:08,500 --> 01:23:10,399
- [Dispatcher] Ma'am,
can you stay...
1435
01:23:10,433 --> 01:23:11,469
I need you to stay
on the line with me.
1436
01:23:11,503 --> 01:23:12,608
Tell me what's going on.
- It's okay.
1437
01:23:12,642 --> 01:23:14,023
I don't know.
1438
01:23:14,058 --> 01:23:15,404
When I look out the window,
there's just lights.
1439
01:23:15,438 --> 01:23:16,853
There's lights.
1440
01:23:16,888 --> 01:23:18,683
- [Dispatcher] What kind
of lights are there?
1441
01:23:18,717 --> 01:23:19,753
- [Stacey] They're bright.
1442
01:23:21,030 --> 01:23:22,687
- Okay.
- But what is that noise?
1443
01:23:22,721 --> 01:23:24,792
There's people on my roof.
1444
01:23:24,827 --> 01:23:26,898
They're trying to get it in.
1445
01:23:26,932 --> 01:23:29,107
- [Dispatcher] Alright,
ma'am, just stay calm.
1446
01:23:29,142 --> 01:23:30,833
I need you to stay
calm, ma'am, alright?
1447
01:23:30,867 --> 01:23:32,145
- [Ash] So, they're
not going outside.
1448
01:23:32,179 --> 01:23:33,525
- [Stacey] Then,
I'm going outside.
1449
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:34,768
- [Ash] You can't go outside.
1450
01:23:34,802 --> 01:23:35,562
- [Stacey] You have
to let me go outside.
1451
01:23:35,596 --> 01:23:37,564
We have to get Sean!
1452
01:23:37,598 --> 01:23:39,014
- [Dispatcher] I need
you to calm down ma'am.
1453
01:23:39,048 --> 01:23:41,464
I need you to stay on
the phone with me, ma'am.
1454
01:23:41,499 --> 01:23:43,466
- [Stacey] We need help.
1455
01:23:44,743 --> 01:23:47,436
- I'm Paul Stenson, I'm 55.
1456
01:23:47,470 --> 01:23:48,954
I'm a retired sheriff's deputy
1457
01:23:48,989 --> 01:23:50,887
with [beep]
sheriff's department.
1458
01:23:51,750 --> 01:23:54,581
I was there for 22 years.
1459
01:23:54,615 --> 01:23:57,239
And now I'm a man of leisure.
1460
01:24:02,278 --> 01:24:04,004
- [Interviewer] So you
were called in that night
1461
01:24:04,039 --> 01:24:08,767
of the 911 call, here to the
Miller residence, correct?
1462
01:24:08,802 --> 01:24:09,699
- That is correct.
1463
01:24:13,565 --> 01:24:15,015
- [Ash] That was
a fucking window.
1464
01:24:15,050 --> 01:24:17,328
That was a window
that just broke.
1465
01:24:17,362 --> 01:24:18,329
- [Stacey] Then
I'm getting Sean.
1466
01:24:18,363 --> 01:24:19,502
I'm going outside.
1467
01:24:19,537 --> 01:24:20,952
- No, you cant do it.
1468
01:24:20,986 --> 01:24:25,370
[everyone speaks indistinctly]
1469
01:24:25,405 --> 01:24:26,337
- [Chanelle] No, no, you can't.
1470
01:24:26,371 --> 01:24:28,270
You need to stay inside.
1471
01:24:28,304 --> 01:24:30,237
- [Stacey] We have to get Sean.
1472
01:24:30,272 --> 01:24:32,274
- [Chanelle] You
need to calm down.
1473
01:24:32,308 --> 01:24:33,861
- [Stacey] No, there
is no calming down.
1474
01:24:33,896 --> 01:24:35,173
What don't you understand?
1475
01:24:36,278 --> 01:24:37,624
You guys need to get here.
1476
01:24:37,658 --> 01:24:40,730
No, I can't stay calm.
1477
01:24:40,765 --> 01:24:42,870
- [Dispatcher] I'm
trying to help you ma'am.
1478
01:24:42,905 --> 01:24:44,872
- [Stacey] You
guys, that was Sean.
1479
01:24:44,907 --> 01:24:48,013
- I need you to stay calm.
- Do you hear him?
1480
01:24:48,048 --> 01:24:49,636
No, I'm going to go get him.
1481
01:24:49,670 --> 01:24:50,844
He's outside.
1482
01:24:50,878 --> 01:24:51,672
No I'm done.
1483
01:24:51,707 --> 01:24:52,673
I'm done. I'm going.
1484
01:24:52,708 --> 01:24:54,537
- [Chanell] No! No! Stacey!
1485
01:24:54,572 --> 01:24:57,540
No, no Stacey, you
can't go! Stacey!
1486
01:24:58,576 --> 01:25:00,681
You can't go outside.
1487
01:25:00,716 --> 01:25:02,269
[everyone speaking
at the same time]
1488
01:25:02,304 --> 01:25:03,581
- [Dispatcher] Is someone there?
1489
01:25:03,615 --> 01:25:05,030
- [Chanelle] Yeah, I'm here.
1490
01:25:05,065 --> 01:25:05,859
I'm here.
1491
01:25:05,893 --> 01:25:08,655
[Stacey screams]
1492
01:25:10,105 --> 01:25:14,350
She's on the ground.
She's unconscious.
1493
01:25:14,385 --> 01:25:16,283
She touched the door-
- Ambulance on the way.
1494
01:25:16,318 --> 01:25:17,802
- [Chanell] She touched the door
1495
01:25:17,836 --> 01:25:22,358
and then she flew across the
room, and she's on the floor.
1496
01:25:23,532 --> 01:25:24,636
- [Dispatcher] I'll
have ambulances.
1497
01:25:24,671 --> 01:25:26,949
I'll have an ambulance
dispatched...
1498
01:25:28,261 --> 01:25:31,333
medical personnel
are on the way.
1499
01:25:31,367 --> 01:25:32,575
We have several units in route.
1500
01:25:32,610 --> 01:25:34,267
- [Chanell] How long?
1501
01:25:34,301 --> 01:25:35,751
- [Dispatcher] Five minutes.
1502
01:25:35,785 --> 01:25:36,269
- [Chanell] Five minutes? He
said they'll come in 5 minutes.
1503
01:25:38,340 --> 01:25:40,894
- We don't have 5 minutes.
- We don't have a choice!
1504
01:25:40,928 --> 01:25:42,067
- [Chanell] Can you
tell them to go faster?
1505
01:25:43,655 --> 01:25:44,863
- [Dispatcher] I
cannot rush personnel.
1506
01:25:44,898 --> 01:25:48,971
They're going as fast
as they're going, ma'am.
1507
01:25:49,005 --> 01:25:50,421
- I don't know what's going on.
1508
01:25:50,455 --> 01:25:53,976
They're outside and they've
surrounded the house.
1509
01:25:54,010 --> 01:25:58,325
[everyone speaking
at the same time]
1510
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:01,156
And there's electric
shocks coming out.
1511
01:26:01,190 --> 01:26:03,882
[people speaking indistinctly]
1512
01:26:03,917 --> 01:26:07,714
- [Dispather] I think I
almost lost you ma'am.
1513
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:10,751
[people speaking indistinctly]
1514
01:26:10,786 --> 01:26:12,581
- [Chanell] We need you here.
1515
01:26:12,615 --> 01:26:14,962
You need to be here.
1516
01:26:14,997 --> 01:26:17,689
[people speaking indistinctly]
1517
01:26:17,724 --> 01:26:18,621
No, and now he's
going to go outside.
1518
01:26:18,656 --> 01:26:19,622
No, you can't go outside!
1519
01:26:19,657 --> 01:26:20,865
No, don't go outside.
1520
01:26:20,899 --> 01:26:22,280
- [Dispatcher] Don't let
anybody go out there.
1521
01:26:22,315 --> 01:26:23,385
- [Chanell] Don't go outside.
1522
01:26:23,419 --> 01:26:26,111
They said don't go outside.
1523
01:26:26,146 --> 01:26:28,148
You can't go outside. No, no.
1524
01:26:28,183 --> 01:26:29,322
- [Brett] Then we'll go both go.
1525
01:26:29,356 --> 01:26:32,704
- [Chanell] No,
neither of you will go.
1526
01:26:32,739 --> 01:26:33,981
You can't go outside.
1527
01:26:34,016 --> 01:26:35,500
- [Dispatcher] They need
to stay in the house.
1528
01:26:35,535 --> 01:26:37,261
- [Chanell] They said you
need to stay in the house.
1529
01:26:37,295 --> 01:26:39,884
- [Dispatcher] We need
to be able to identify
1530
01:26:39,918 --> 01:26:41,713
who is a threat and who is not.
1531
01:26:41,748 --> 01:26:45,061
- You have to stay in because-
- Ma'am, who are you?
1532
01:26:45,096 --> 01:26:47,340
- I'm Chanell, Chanell Hamilton.
1533
01:26:47,374 --> 01:26:51,689
- [Man] Okay, and how are
you related to the caller?
1534
01:26:52,690 --> 01:26:54,450
- We're with the film crew.
1535
01:26:54,485 --> 01:26:58,627
We're filming a documentary
about Stacey and Sean.
1536
01:27:00,387 --> 01:27:03,459
- [Man] Okay, and where
did the caller go, ma'am?
1537
01:27:03,494 --> 01:27:06,945
- [Chanell] She tried to
go outside to find Sean.
1538
01:27:06,980 --> 01:27:11,881
And then she touched the door
and she flew across the room
1539
01:27:12,503 --> 01:27:14,263
She got pushed.
1540
01:27:14,298 --> 01:27:18,992
She, almost like there was
electricity in the door handle.
1541
01:27:19,026 --> 01:27:22,478
[static buzzing]
1542
01:27:22,513 --> 01:27:25,516
- [Man] She needs medical
attention as well.
1543
01:27:25,550 --> 01:27:26,965
- Chanell, get down!
1544
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:30,969
- What else is going on-
- They're on the fucking roof!
1545
01:27:31,004 --> 01:27:33,627
Dammit, Brett. I'm
fucking sorry, man.
1546
01:27:33,662 --> 01:27:34,559
- Dude, don't be sorry.
1547
01:27:34,594 --> 01:27:35,733
I choose to fucking be here.
1548
01:27:35,767 --> 01:27:37,976
We're all here because
we wanted to be.
1549
01:27:38,011 --> 01:27:40,013
- No, I'm fucking sorry.
1550
01:27:41,497 --> 01:27:43,050
This is a shit time to say it,
1551
01:27:43,085 --> 01:27:44,362
but I don't know when
I'm gonna get a chance.
1552
01:27:44,397 --> 01:27:45,605
But I'm fucking sorry.
1553
01:27:45,639 --> 01:27:48,263
I am sorry that
I didn't tell you
1554
01:27:50,195 --> 01:27:53,716
we fucking missed you,
we missed you and Angie,
1555
01:27:53,751 --> 01:27:56,029
and we fucking miss David, too.
1556
01:27:56,063 --> 01:27:59,895
And I didn't say anything 'cause
you were so goddamned hurt
1557
01:27:59,929 --> 01:28:02,794
and I should have because
you needed to know
1558
01:28:02,829 --> 01:28:04,348
how much everybody loved them,
1559
01:28:04,382 --> 01:28:06,453
because you loved him
so goddamned much.
1560
01:28:06,488 --> 01:28:09,422
But everybody loved him and
Chanell and I loved him.
1561
01:28:09,456 --> 01:28:11,493
And goddamn it, I'm
just fucking sorry
1562
01:28:11,527 --> 01:28:14,012
I didn't say anything earlier.
1563
01:28:16,291 --> 01:28:21,296
Brett just fucking
left. Brett, goddamnit!
1564
01:28:22,435 --> 01:28:23,643
- [Chanell] Please don't
go outside with him.
1565
01:28:23,677 --> 01:28:24,851
- [Ash] I gotta go.
He may need help.
1566
01:28:24,885 --> 01:28:26,093
- Please don't go.
- I gotta go.
1567
01:28:26,128 --> 01:28:28,095
- Ma'am, can you please
keep all the personnel
1568
01:28:28,130 --> 01:28:29,890
in the house, please.
1569
01:28:29,925 --> 01:28:32,583
[static buzzes]
1570
01:28:36,794 --> 01:28:39,452
[ominous tones]
1571
01:28:41,143 --> 01:28:46,148
- [Ash] Brett!.
1572
01:28:49,462 --> 01:28:50,290
Oh God.
1573
01:28:53,362 --> 01:28:55,053
Oh Jesus, Brett!
1574
01:28:55,088 --> 01:28:55,916
Brett!
1575
01:28:56,952 --> 01:28:58,609
Brett! Grab my hand!
1576
01:28:59,989 --> 01:29:01,784
Grab my. I've got you.
1577
01:29:01,819 --> 01:29:03,268
Don't let go.
1578
01:29:03,303 --> 01:29:04,511
Don't let go!
1579
01:29:04,546 --> 01:29:05,719
Brett, you're slipping!
1580
01:29:05,754 --> 01:29:07,514
You're slipping!
1581
01:29:07,549 --> 01:29:09,274
It's okay! It's okay.
1582
01:29:15,211 --> 01:29:18,698
- [Dispatcher] Okay, ma'am you
need to get them back inside.
1583
01:29:18,732 --> 01:29:21,356
Units should be there in
the next minute, ma'am.
1584
01:29:22,460 --> 01:29:23,358
Status of units?
1585
01:29:23,392 --> 01:29:24,842
Where are the units in progress?
1586
01:29:25,843 --> 01:29:27,603
Ma'am? ma'am are
you still there?
1587
01:29:28,846 --> 01:29:30,123
Ma'am are you still there?
1588
01:29:31,331 --> 01:29:32,608
I think I lost the call.
1589
01:29:33,851 --> 01:29:36,301
What are the status of units?
1590
01:29:36,336 --> 01:29:38,545
We need to send more back up.
1591
01:29:38,580 --> 01:29:40,685
No one is answering right now,
1592
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:42,687
I'm going to try to call back.
1593
01:29:42,722 --> 01:29:45,380
[phone ringing]
1594
01:30:00,153 --> 01:30:02,189
I'm not getting anything.
1595
01:30:02,224 --> 01:30:03,328
It's just ringing.
1596
01:30:03,363 --> 01:30:04,433
I'm not getting anything.
1597
01:30:04,468 --> 01:30:06,124
No one's picking up.
1598
01:30:11,371 --> 01:30:12,855
- [Interviewer] You've
been reported as saying
1599
01:30:12,890 --> 01:30:15,513
that there's never going to
be a resolution to this case.
1600
01:30:15,548 --> 01:30:17,895
Is that still your position?
1601
01:30:17,929 --> 01:30:19,862
- I couldn't find anything
1602
01:30:19,897 --> 01:30:21,692
and I was the first
one on the scene.
1603
01:30:25,178 --> 01:30:27,525
It defies rational explanation.
1604
01:30:34,359 --> 01:30:38,398
I can't even begin
to comment on that.
1605
01:30:46,441 --> 01:30:48,477
- [Interviewer] Ash, I
think it's important for us
1606
01:30:48,512 --> 01:30:51,860
to understand, what would
you say to Brett's family?
1607
01:30:57,348 --> 01:31:02,318
- I talk, I try to
talk to Brett's family.
1608
01:31:03,803 --> 01:31:08,014
I have tried numerous times
to talk to Brett's family.
1609
01:31:08,048 --> 01:31:12,018
I have tried writing
checks to Brett's family.
1610
01:31:13,468 --> 01:31:16,609
I would say the same thing that
I would say to anybody else.
1611
01:31:18,576 --> 01:31:19,784
Brett was my best friend.
1612
01:31:20,958 --> 01:31:23,167
He's still my best friend.
1613
01:31:24,409 --> 01:31:26,204
He's always gonna
be my best friend.
1614
01:31:27,343 --> 01:31:28,655
- [Interviewer]
You seem emotional.
1615
01:31:31,624 --> 01:31:33,246
- I fucking want him back.
1616
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:34,765
I want him back.
1617
01:31:34,799 --> 01:31:36,387
Why wouldn't I want him back?
1618
01:31:36,421 --> 01:31:38,182
Why wouldn't I want
my best friend back?
1619
01:31:38,216 --> 01:31:39,666
I'm gonna get emotional.
1620
01:31:39,701 --> 01:31:42,669
I get emotional every
time I think about Brett.
1621
01:31:42,704 --> 01:31:44,706
We had a conversation
before we even went
1622
01:31:44,740 --> 01:31:46,673
into this documentary
where I asked him
1623
01:31:46,708 --> 01:31:47,985
if he wanted to sit this out
1624
01:31:48,019 --> 01:31:49,918
and I should have
made him do it,
1625
01:31:49,952 --> 01:31:52,299
because I didn't think
he was up for it then
1626
01:31:52,334 --> 01:31:53,887
and I should have
asked him to sit it out
1627
01:31:53,922 --> 01:31:55,130
and I didn't do it.
1628
01:31:55,164 --> 01:31:56,476
And that's on me and
that's gonna be on me
1629
01:31:56,511 --> 01:31:58,582
every single time
I talk about it.
1630
01:31:58,616 --> 01:32:01,757
Every time I'm asked that
question, it's gonna be on me.
1631
01:32:01,792 --> 01:32:04,104
It's gonna be on me to
think about the people,
1632
01:32:04,139 --> 01:32:07,073
not just beside me,
that's missing him.
1633
01:32:07,107 --> 01:32:09,109
And that's what I got to do.
1634
01:32:09,144 --> 01:32:10,248
That's what I do every time
1635
01:32:10,283 --> 01:32:12,250
people ask me if
I'm being honest
1636
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:15,288
is I've got to
look at the people
1637
01:32:15,322 --> 01:32:17,704
who aren't around to
defend themselves.
1638
01:32:17,739 --> 01:32:19,534
Brett's not around
to defend himself.
1639
01:32:21,294 --> 01:32:22,778
All I can do.
1640
01:32:22,813 --> 01:32:27,265
All I can do is call people
and try to write checks.
1641
01:32:28,750 --> 01:32:33,720
Ineffective, because I can't
tell them what really happened
1642
01:32:34,618 --> 01:32:36,309
and have them believe it.
1643
01:32:36,343 --> 01:32:38,345
- [Interviewer] So are they
taking your call at all?
1644
01:32:38,380 --> 01:32:41,556
- No, nobody's taking my calls.
1645
01:32:42,522 --> 01:32:44,559
You know who's taking my calls?
1646
01:32:44,593 --> 01:32:48,148
People who want my documentary
that I can't even give them.
1647
01:32:48,183 --> 01:32:49,564
That's who's taking my calls.
1648
01:32:50,944 --> 01:32:52,359
That's who's taking my calls.
1649
01:32:53,429 --> 01:32:56,018
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