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Lincoln: Rick and Michonne are perfect
partners in an imperfect world.
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Gurira: They first met
as reluctant allies,
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but over time, their bond grew.
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Through so many hardships,
so much loss and sacrifice,
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they found each other.
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Until one day when it
all got taken away.
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Michonne was fearful that she
may have lost Rick forever.
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And Rick never stopped
thinking about his family
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and never stopped trying
to get back to them.
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But when Michonne made
a fateful discovery,
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she knew she had to find him.
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She had to make
her family whole.
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So how weird is this...
after all this time?
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Yes, and finishing
telling the story
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of Rick and Michonne, to be
here where it all started.
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The only thing to really do
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is to start at the
very beginning,
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'cause it's a very
good place to start.
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This is approximately where
Rick and Michonne first met.
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Yeah.
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How did you feel that day?
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What do you mean, how do I feel?
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How did you?
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What? Meeting you, or...
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Yeah. Do you remember it?
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I think... I do remember.
Of course I remember it.
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'Cause I think he
was going through
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quite a defensive phase
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where he was very distrustful,
and seeing somebody
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with a katana and two
zombies with their...
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Okay, you don't...
you don't remember.
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Oh. I have no idea.
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I'm leaving, guys. Yeah.
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Going down memory lane with
someone with no memories.
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W... but... How do I do this?
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Did I... Come on.
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Okay, so to help my
colleague out here.
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Listen, don't tell
them the st...
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How I came to the gate was...
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I didn't have... I didn't
have the two zombies.
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I was covered in zombie gunk.
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Okay, so you didn't have the
two people on the chains? No.
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They were long gone. I got rid
of them long before I met you.
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Oh, my God. There were a lot of
walkers clinging onto this fence.
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Yeah.
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And you're standing there and...
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And Carl's there as
well. Should we help her?
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'Cause he was the one that
convinced me to go and get you.
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And that's when Carl
says, "We have to..."
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Says, "We got to..."
Yeah, that's right.
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And pushes for her to be
saved. No, I do remember that.
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Guys, everybody calm down.
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Carl.
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That was a memorable way
for the characters to meet.
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It was a great way, yeah.
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And also because they're
so similar in temperament
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and personality,
there's a kind of
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they're alpha, they're
independent, they're stubborn.
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It wasn't easy for them
when they started. Yeah.
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It was such a counter experience
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for Michonne from
the Governor. Yeah.
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'Cause the Governor, he
was trying to charm her
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and sort of woo her
into his little...
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Yeah, and she was
like, "Mnh-mnh."
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And she does have
respect for Rick
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even before she meets
him, because of Andrea.
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And so she knows it's time
to not be a loner anymore.
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But the Governor was trying
to treat her all good
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and she's, like,
flipping swords in them
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and killing his zombie daughter.
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But when she comes
here, Rick is hostile,
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but Michonne trusts that.
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She trusts that, considering
the world they're in,
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considering the man
she knows he is,
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considering who he's
protecting. Yeah.
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And she has a lot of grace for
Rick from the jump. Yeah, yeah.
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So when you joined, Danai,
we were in season three.
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What did you feel
joining this cast?
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Were we a welcoming cast?
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Yeah, everyone was amazing.
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I remember I became immediately
very close to Lauren
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and of course to the
awesome Steven Yeun
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and of course to Laurie Holden.
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You did a lot of stuff...
And you were okay.
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You were all right.
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You were nice... you
were nice enough.
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You know? It was like, "Okay."
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Yeah. No, I'm kidding.
You were very sweet.
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Apart from when I dropped you.
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Well, yeah. I mean,
that was a funny day.
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You want to tell it?
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No, you tell it 'cause it's
always gonna end up going there.
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If you tell it, then, you know,
it'll... it'll lighten it up.
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Okay, so we had a policy. In the
sense that you lighten up for you.
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We had a policy
when we were filming
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that we didn't throw marks down.
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The crew were absolutely
the heart and soul
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of "The Walking Dead."
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And we had this environment
where everybody kept acting
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at all times, and we
didn't call "cut."
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What does this have to
do... I'm getting there.
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This is... This is
basically protecting myself.
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The scene goes where...
I see you drop.
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I'm like, "I don't think
she should come in here.
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She's got a katana. She's
dangerous. We need to..."
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And Carl's going, "Get
out. We have to save her."
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So eventually I do. I
concede we're gonna do that.
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And it was supposed to cut
when I pull you onto my back.
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And I didn't do that.
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And so I picked you up,
got about three steps,
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dropped you... And fell.
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And then decided to fall
on top of you as well,
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which wasn't the ideal welcome.
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I'm like, "What is
this dude doing?
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You're not supposed to do this."
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I'm just lying there. I'm dead.
I'm like, "I'm out. I can't..."
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I remember Lennie James.
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We were on the porch in
Alexandria at one time
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and we watched you, and you had
your dreads and your katana,
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and you were just sort of
walking down the main street.
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And he went, "Look at
that." And I went, "I know."
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And he went, "That's
the coolest character."
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We'd never seen
anything quite like it.
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It's so deeply, profoundly,
apocalyptically cool.
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You know what I mean? Mm-hmm.
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I think we were just
always a bit jealous.
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That's probably
why I dropped you.
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Ha ha ha ha ha.
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Speaking of jealous of
great, cool characters,
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your son, Chandler Riggs.
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Yeah. Extraordinary young man.
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Yeah. We just struck
gold with that kid.
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It's an extraordinary bond
to see somebody grow up
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in front of your eyes on screen
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and spend so much time
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with this incredibly
impressive young man.
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It's not the truth, but I spent
more time with Chandler Riggs
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than my own son for
a lot of that decade.
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That's not the truth, but
it felt like that some days.
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And you never know what you're
gonna get with young actors
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and what they're
gonna turn into.
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But I think he's a brilliant
young man, you know,
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and a very, very
impressive actor.
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And I always sign off
"DTVS"... "Deceased TV Son"
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is my sign-off with
Chandler Riggs.
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You know what I mean?
It's a bit weird, but...
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Yeah, a little... that's
the way we roll here.
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I couldn't speak
more highly of him.
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He's so incredible and really
was that warm, welcoming heart
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that was at the
heart of this show.
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It was exactly what
he did for Michonne
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was kind of what I
felt he was towards me.
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We just really
clicked and got along.
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I loved my scenes
with him so much.
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I-I just thought Judith should
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should know what
her mom looked like.
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It was really with Carl
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and the idea of this young
man growing up in this world
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that really warmed her
heart and of course
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aligned her with you very deeply
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to want to keep... preserve
him and save his life.
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Well, we sort of had
this family, didn't we?
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It sort of established...
before we even fell in love.
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What are you doing?
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Winning a bet.
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In your dreams.
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I'm still on.
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You spoke too soon, wise guy.
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This might go on a while.
Maybe we can speed this up.
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Yeah, you're right.
Shouldn't be fooling around.
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We should probably... Carl!
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Lincoln: This is the one.
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'Cause I know from
all the scars.
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Yeah.
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It's so cool.
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I remember doing an
interview with a magazine
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and they challenged
me to a firing range,
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and it's actually really
well balanced, this thing.
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And I did quite... I don't want
to big myself up or anything,
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but I got quite a
lot. But you will.
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But I will right
now big myself up.
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I got quite a lot of bull's-eyes
with... with real things
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in Atlanta.
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We went to a shooting
alley. Well...
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He's the only one who
remembers this, so...
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Bit more coordinated
than... than you were...
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Just take his word for it.
Hitting me on the head.
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Just...
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Why is there a rock here
that says "Andy's rock"?
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That's because I had
a limp for a while
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and I liked that
rock in my boot.
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And I get a little
bit OCD about things.
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No!
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And this was the one
that I had to have.
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So... You?
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Yeah, and so I would
put that in my boot
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because we didn't
want to fake it.
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I mean, it's absurd, but,
yeah, that's what we did.
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So that's why I
was hobbling around
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with that rock in my boot. Wow.
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And we got it from outside
the prison, actually.
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Wow. Yeah.
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I have to say, I am very moved
by good prop making and design.
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It really helps, doesn't
it? Yeah. It does.
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And we were so
fortunate in the show
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to have such an incredible
design team in all areas.
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And also, of course,
Greg and KNB.
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And it's just... I mean,
we were so fortunate.
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We would walk into environments.
They weren't, sort of, sets.
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No. It was an environment.
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So, Danai, apart from you
stealing your katana...
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Does that make sense?
Me stealing my katana.
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Just break down that sentence
for a second, everybody. Just...
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Apart from stealing your
katana... Does that make sense?
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Was that the one that
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wasn't in the Smithsonian
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but it found its way into
your apartment in New York.
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Don't tell people where it is!
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Apart from the
katana... It's, um...
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Apart from the katana that you
decided to pilfer... I took it to
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are there any other props
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that you would have
liked to have held on to?
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Listen...
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Don't be mad 'cause you
don't have a katana.
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Yeah, I am jealous. I know.
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It's like Norman used to end
each season on a motorbike.
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Norman took... he
took every crossbow.
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He took one home at the
end of every season.
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Every season. In full costume.
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Yeah. With a crossbow.
Driving home.
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Just going, "Thank you
for another good season."
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Yeah. On a bike that was
probably designed by him.
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I had to wait nine
years to get my katana.
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Um, so, yeah.
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Is there another prop or thing
I would like to have kept?
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Maybe the Governor's eyeball.
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Ohh! That's cool.
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I don't know if
we really got it.
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She just put it in,
but I don't think
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she yanked it out, you know?
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But I think we should have
a thing of the eyeball
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with that piece of
glass stuck in it.
243
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That would be amazing.
Yeah, I want that.
244
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Speaking of that, I'll
never forget Dave Morrissey,
245
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who played the Governor... Yes.
246
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Attacking in such a badass way
247
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out on that field.
248
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Go ahead!
249
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Screaming, all the rest
of it, and shooting at us
250
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when the war was kicking off.
251
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And then he got into his car
252
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and he had, obviously,
the patch on
253
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and he started driving, and
he just lifted his patch up...
254
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'cause he couldn't
255
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'cause he couldn't
drive with one eye.
256
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He was terrified.
257
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I just remember going, "Um...
258
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That's not that bada..."
259
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They can cut around it.
They can cut around it.
260
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All right, okay. Why
you calling him out?
261
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We love you, David.
You're amazing.
262
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Love you, David. Incredible,
incredible actor.
263
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Amazing. What is that?
264
00:12:09,199 --> 00:12:10,700
Judith and Carl.
265
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Mm.
266
00:12:12,081 --> 00:12:15,023
But where was
that? What is that?
267
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Is it the w...
268
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The porch. Oh, the
porch of the house.
269
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Did you just cut
it out of the porch
270
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and leave a hole in the porch?
271
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Are you sure about that?
272
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Sure you didn't just
leave a hole in the...
273
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I'm gonna check
later on when we go.
274
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Look at that. There we go.
275
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Had my arse out, as
they say in Scotland
276
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for the whole of the
first episode right there.
277
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Gurira: Okay, moving on.
278
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Right. Right.
279
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Now we're talking.
280
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This was my first outfit that
the fantastic Eulyn Hufkie,
281
00:13:14,042 --> 00:13:16,104
who was our costume
designer for many years,
282
00:13:16,204 --> 00:13:17,425
and did a fantastic job.
283
00:13:17,525 --> 00:13:18,906
Amazing job. Yeah.
284
00:13:19,006 --> 00:13:20,503
I think she really enjoyed
kind of stepping away
285
00:13:20,527 --> 00:13:22,144
from certain things
that the show had had,
286
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like duller colours.
287
00:13:23,929 --> 00:13:26,150
So Michonne kind of
got more color...
288
00:13:26,250 --> 00:13:28,468
That felt like a dig. I don't
know about you... in her palette.
289
00:13:28,492 --> 00:13:29,913
Duller color?
290
00:13:30,013 --> 00:13:31,794
You brightened up the show.
291
00:13:31,894 --> 00:13:33,111
No, I didn't say that.
292
00:13:33,135 --> 00:13:35,877
I said Eulyn decided
to give me colour.
293
00:13:35,977 --> 00:13:37,678
And then we covered
you in blood.
294
00:13:43,142 --> 00:13:46,124
Oh, God. The boots.
295
00:13:46,224 --> 00:13:48,805
I can't... I can't even believe
all the stuff I did this.
296
00:13:48,905 --> 00:13:52,048
But there came a time
I had to graduate these
297
00:13:52,148 --> 00:13:53,328
and put on some shoes
298
00:13:53,428 --> 00:13:56,010
with a bit more...
more heel support.
299
00:13:56,110 --> 00:13:57,731
But, like, listen,
sturdy as hell.
300
00:13:57,831 --> 00:13:59,933
Like, nothing's gonna get
past them or around them.
301
00:14:00,033 --> 00:14:02,334
So you were being appropriate
to the environment
302
00:14:02,434 --> 00:14:03,855
is what you're saying.
303
00:14:03,955 --> 00:14:05,853
We were... you know, we were
down and out in the dirt,
304
00:14:05,877 --> 00:14:07,058
eating dogs.
305
00:14:07,158 --> 00:14:08,499
Yeah, that was a low point.
306
00:14:08,599 --> 00:14:09,819
It was low. I have to admit.
307
00:14:09,919 --> 00:14:12,061
And I think, at the end of it,
308
00:14:12,161 --> 00:14:13,982
we meet Aaron after we,
309
00:14:14,082 --> 00:14:16,024
and we're in the barn
and you look at me,
310
00:14:16,124 --> 00:14:17,505
and I'm like... nod.
311
00:14:17,605 --> 00:14:18,905
And then you punch him. Yeah.
312
00:14:22,768 --> 00:14:24,349
Like, I wasn't
saying, "Punch him."
313
00:14:24,449 --> 00:14:25,826
I thought... I thought
that was the nod.
314
00:14:25,850 --> 00:14:27,551
I was saying, "I believe
what he's saying."
315
00:14:27,651 --> 00:14:31,594
So we're clear, that look wasn't
a "let's attack that man" look.
316
00:14:31,694 --> 00:14:34,116
It was a "he seems like
an okay guy to me" look.
317
00:14:34,216 --> 00:14:36,157
She's like, "We've got
to give this guy a shot,"
318
00:14:36,257 --> 00:14:38,518
because her instincts are
saying this could be a place,
319
00:14:38,618 --> 00:14:40,520
as she says to you
in that episode,
320
00:14:40,620 --> 00:14:42,001
where Judith could grow up.
321
00:14:42,101 --> 00:14:43,981
We can't just toss him
aside and say he's lying.
322
00:14:44,062 --> 00:14:45,203
Yeah. Yeah.
323
00:14:45,303 --> 00:14:47,084
We don't need to find out.
324
00:14:47,184 --> 00:14:49,566
We do.
325
00:14:49,666 --> 00:14:53,849
You know what you know,
and you're sure of it.
326
00:14:53,949 --> 00:14:55,950
But I'm not.
327
00:14:57,271 --> 00:14:58,412
Maggie: Me neither.
328
00:15:06,997 --> 00:15:09,659
Your way's dangerous.
Mine isn't.
329
00:15:09,759 --> 00:15:12,501
Passing up someplace
where we can live?
330
00:15:12,601 --> 00:15:14,823
Where Judith can live?
331
00:15:14,923 --> 00:15:17,064
That's pretty dangerous.
332
00:15:18,925 --> 00:15:22,488
We need to find
out what this is.
333
00:15:42,021 --> 00:15:44,522
I'd call dibs on that one.
334
00:15:44,622 --> 00:15:47,244
It's got more... curb appeal.
335
00:15:49,305 --> 00:15:51,807
Lincoln: Because this
hasn't changed that much
336
00:15:51,907 --> 00:15:53,208
I feel this is like
337
00:15:53,308 --> 00:15:56,450
more shocking to my
system, seeing this now.
338
00:15:56,550 --> 00:16:01,854
I mean, we've shot every
single part of this place.
339
00:16:01,954 --> 00:16:03,411
So, what did you feel
like when you came here?
340
00:16:03,435 --> 00:16:07,217
Were you just relieved
to get a hot shower?
341
00:16:07,317 --> 00:16:09,059
Gurira: It was about
the idea of moving
342
00:16:09,159 --> 00:16:12,341
into something structured and
real that was safe and good
343
00:16:12,441 --> 00:16:15,423
and the belief that
that had still exist,
344
00:16:15,523 --> 00:16:17,024
that Michonne was holding on to.
345
00:16:17,124 --> 00:16:19,101
And she was the one who
said, "Let's go towards D.C."
346
00:16:19,125 --> 00:16:20,626
She was the one who said,
347
00:16:20,726 --> 00:16:22,303
"We've got to give Aaron
a chance." Yeah, yeah.
348
00:16:22,327 --> 00:16:25,109
And she's the one who
persuaded you to come here
349
00:16:25,209 --> 00:16:26,786
and you didn't know whether
or not you were gonna
350
00:16:26,810 --> 00:16:28,792
be able to do it, and we
have that conversation
351
00:16:28,892 --> 00:16:31,434
that was about what you
would hear when we got there.
352
00:16:31,534 --> 00:16:34,155
And when we got to the doors,
we hear children laughing.
353
00:16:43,462 --> 00:16:45,403
I loved coming here
because it was... it was
354
00:16:45,503 --> 00:16:47,564
it was about coming together
355
00:16:47,664 --> 00:16:51,247
in a place that was,
yes, clean and beautiful
356
00:16:51,347 --> 00:16:54,889
and we could not shoot on
the side of a ditch road.
357
00:16:54,989 --> 00:16:56,730
I hated it,
actually. I really...
358
00:16:56,830 --> 00:16:58,327
I know, that's perfect
for our characters.
359
00:16:58,351 --> 00:17:00,733
I hated it 'cause
it was, like, clean.
360
00:17:00,833 --> 00:17:02,054
I didn't feel real.
361
00:17:02,154 --> 00:17:03,535
It just didn't
feel like the show,
362
00:17:03,635 --> 00:17:04,896
and I was really uncomfortable.
363
00:17:04,996 --> 00:17:07,137
And also then I had
to shave my beard off
364
00:17:07,237 --> 00:17:08,538
and I was furious about that.
365
00:17:08,638 --> 00:17:09,979
Which we all thought was great.
366
00:17:10,079 --> 00:17:12,181
Yeah, it was... well,
I'm glad you did.
367
00:17:12,281 --> 00:17:14,182
He had this wretchedly
massive beard.
368
00:17:14,282 --> 00:17:16,504
It was like you could
not see his face at all.
369
00:17:16,604 --> 00:17:18,345
But I thought I was
really rocking it,
370
00:17:18,445 --> 00:17:20,266
and then my son, who
likes to humiliate me,
371
00:17:20,366 --> 00:17:22,227
showed me a photo of the
beard, and I was like,
372
00:17:22,327 --> 00:17:27,111
"Oh, man, that was like
about four months too big.
373
00:17:27,211 --> 00:17:29,752
"Why didn't anybody tell me?"
It was a lot. It was a lot.
374
00:17:29,852 --> 00:17:31,532
It was a bad look. And
then it was like...
375
00:17:31,573 --> 00:17:32,914
It was a real shock, like,
376
00:17:33,014 --> 00:17:36,357
'cause all the men on
set, in solidarity,
377
00:17:36,457 --> 00:17:39,479
shaved their beards
when he shaved his.
378
00:17:39,579 --> 00:17:42,321
It was a really shocking
day to come to work.
379
00:17:42,421 --> 00:17:46,283
And all the girls were like,
"Did you see Andy?! Oh, my God!"
380
00:17:46,383 --> 00:17:49,165
So he was a little hottie
on set for a few days.
381
00:17:49,265 --> 00:17:50,682
And then it was like,
"Eh, it's just Andy."
382
00:17:50,706 --> 00:17:52,367
We did double
takes. It was weird.
383
00:17:52,467 --> 00:17:54,529
Like, "Oh, my God.
That was under there?"
384
00:17:54,629 --> 00:17:56,130
And then we had to
wear that uniform,
385
00:17:56,230 --> 00:17:58,231
which made me feel
a bit weird as well.
386
00:17:59,832 --> 00:18:02,854
What was your reaction to
Deanna appointing us constables?
387
00:18:02,954 --> 00:18:04,535
Well, I mean, the
good thing about it
388
00:18:04,635 --> 00:18:06,377
was that it allowed
us to have authority.
389
00:18:06,477 --> 00:18:08,774
There was a nervousness about,
are they gonna try to eat us
390
00:18:08,798 --> 00:18:10,900
like Terminus did
or try to kill us?
391
00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,501
Like, what is about
to happen here?
392
00:18:12,601 --> 00:18:14,942
And so I think the
cool thing was the idea
393
00:18:15,042 --> 00:18:16,303
that she was entrusting us.
394
00:18:16,403 --> 00:18:18,060
It was really her
reaching out and saying,
395
00:18:18,084 --> 00:18:21,066
"I entrust you with the
authority over this place."
396
00:18:21,166 --> 00:18:23,628
I'd like you to
be our constable.
397
00:18:26,770 --> 00:18:28,772
That's what you were.
398
00:18:30,052 --> 00:18:31,553
That's what you are.
399
00:18:37,657 --> 00:18:38,657
And you too.
400
00:18:40,659 --> 00:18:43,481
I sort of took the law into my
own hands a little bit. Exactly.
401
00:18:43,581 --> 00:18:46,283
He became the biggest outlaw
in the whole doggone place.
402
00:18:46,383 --> 00:18:48,004
He was a dick.
403
00:18:48,104 --> 00:18:49,966
He was, but, I mean,
I rewatched that
404
00:18:50,066 --> 00:18:51,727
and I was like, "Oh, my God."
405
00:18:51,827 --> 00:18:55,529
That was really some crazy
vigilante stuff you went after,
406
00:18:55,629 --> 00:18:57,767
and it was really just because
you had a crush on his wife.
407
00:18:57,791 --> 00:19:00,471
A little bit. Would you care if you
didn't have a crush on his wife?
408
00:19:00,553 --> 00:19:03,214
Yes, I was... I was entrusted
as being a constable.
409
00:19:03,314 --> 00:19:06,092
I was making... I was keeping the peace. That's
not how a constable functions. Give me a break.
410
00:19:06,116 --> 00:19:09,335
I was keeping the peace by breaking a few...
I kept the peace, and I knocked your ass out.
411
00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,900
That was keeping the peace.
412
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,862
But it made for great drama.
413
00:19:14,962 --> 00:19:17,624
If you don't fight, you die.
414
00:19:17,724 --> 00:19:19,625
I'm not gonna stand by...
415
00:19:21,206 --> 00:19:24,028
Was it a conscious decision
to actually hit me?
416
00:19:24,128 --> 00:19:29,152
Uh, it was a conscious
decision to make it work
417
00:19:29,252 --> 00:19:32,914
and trust that you could
take it, whatever it took.
418
00:19:33,014 --> 00:19:34,675
Wow.
419
00:19:34,775 --> 00:19:37,637
But no, I did not consciously
want to actually make contact.
420
00:19:37,737 --> 00:19:38,977
Okay. It just... Andy, come on.
421
00:19:39,058 --> 00:19:41,000
I probably deserved
it. I had it coming.
422
00:19:41,100 --> 00:19:42,721
Probably. But it was
just a little clip.
423
00:19:42,821 --> 00:19:44,402
It was a tap. Yeah.
424
00:19:44,502 --> 00:19:46,003
And I think it helped you...
425
00:19:46,103 --> 00:19:48,044
Hit the deck...
Enact your action.
426
00:19:48,144 --> 00:19:49,761
Yeah, true. Yeah. Which
you did pretty well.
427
00:19:49,785 --> 00:19:50,966
Thank you.
428
00:19:51,066 --> 00:19:53,168
Yeah, you looked
pretty messed up.
429
00:19:53,268 --> 00:19:54,929
I loved how it came
out, quite honestly.
430
00:19:55,029 --> 00:19:56,250
I thought it looked great.
431
00:19:56,350 --> 00:19:59,132
Ha ha ha ha!
432
00:19:59,232 --> 00:20:02,214
The punch did lead to
a very tender moment
433
00:20:02,314 --> 00:20:03,855
between Rick and Michonne,
434
00:20:03,955 --> 00:20:06,777
which I think was definitely
a hint at what was to come,
435
00:20:06,877 --> 00:20:11,580
which was the scene where
he's sort of admitting
436
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,741
that he lied to her...
437
00:20:13,841 --> 00:20:16,303
Yeah... And was scared
to tell the truth,
438
00:20:16,403 --> 00:20:18,184
'cause she could talk
him out of things,
439
00:20:18,284 --> 00:20:20,666
and hands her his gun. Yeah.
440
00:20:20,766 --> 00:20:25,189
And her response is to trust him
441
00:20:25,289 --> 00:20:27,631
and to make him keep his gun...
442
00:20:27,731 --> 00:20:31,193
Yeah... and to trust him
to make the right move
443
00:20:31,293 --> 00:20:33,234
and to let him know that
she's still with him
444
00:20:33,334 --> 00:20:35,116
even if things
don't work out here.
445
00:20:35,216 --> 00:20:37,998
I think that was a
very telling moment
446
00:20:38,098 --> 00:20:39,559
between them as future partners.
447
00:20:39,659 --> 00:20:40,659
Yeah.
448
00:20:55,949 --> 00:20:58,491
This is exactly
where it happened.
449
00:20:58,591 --> 00:20:59,972
Mm-hmm.
450
00:21:00,072 --> 00:21:01,973
When did Scott
actually... Scott Gimple
451
00:21:02,073 --> 00:21:03,494
when did he tell you?
452
00:21:03,594 --> 00:21:05,091
He told me at the beginning
of the season. Ah.
453
00:21:05,115 --> 00:21:07,537
He told me in a way
that was very like
454
00:21:07,637 --> 00:21:11,700
he was almost too afraid to
mention it in full sentences.
455
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,501
But he basically told me.
456
00:21:13,601 --> 00:21:15,182
You know, we had
had conversations
457
00:21:15,282 --> 00:21:18,384
about why I was grouped
with you so much.
458
00:21:18,484 --> 00:21:20,746
And one of the writers said
to me one time, they're like,
459
00:21:20,846 --> 00:21:22,343
"Well, we just keep writing
to Rick and Michonne
460
00:21:22,367 --> 00:21:23,824
because those scenes
just work so well.
461
00:21:23,848 --> 00:21:25,269
We just keep writing them."
462
00:21:25,369 --> 00:21:26,986
And so he'd been talking
about things like that to me,
463
00:21:27,010 --> 00:21:29,170
and then he just said, "That
thing that keeps happening
464
00:21:29,252 --> 00:21:30,633
over this year, it'll..."
465
00:21:30,733 --> 00:21:32,073
And he couldn't bring his
466
00:21:32,173 --> 00:21:33,791
he couldn't bring the
words out of his mouth.
467
00:21:33,815 --> 00:21:35,232
Like he was scared.
That's so Gimple.
468
00:21:35,256 --> 00:21:36,833
Like the walls were
listening, you know?
469
00:21:36,857 --> 00:21:38,914
And I was like, "You mean Rick
and Michonne get together?"
470
00:21:38,938 --> 00:21:42,721
He's like, "Well, we don't want
to say out loud! But yeah."
471
00:21:42,821 --> 00:21:46,443
So he... he had always... but
it really did freak me out
472
00:21:46,543 --> 00:21:47,564
to see it on the page.
473
00:21:47,664 --> 00:21:49,165
Oh, God, yeah. I
was freaked out.
474
00:21:49,265 --> 00:21:50,966
I was like, "Holy shit."
475
00:21:51,066 --> 00:21:54,248
But then it made absolute sense
as soon as we did the scene.
476
00:21:54,348 --> 00:21:55,548
Yeah, I will give Rick this...
477
00:21:55,629 --> 00:21:57,130
It looked like he
was making the move
478
00:21:57,230 --> 00:22:02,654
and she was responding in
shock to the realisation
479
00:22:02,754 --> 00:22:05,496
that this is exactly
what she's wanted,
480
00:22:05,596 --> 00:22:10,579
but not dared to truly
bring to full consciousness.
481
00:22:10,679 --> 00:22:12,420
And now it was just dead clear.
482
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,342
Well, and I think it was
also, for the group dynamic,
483
00:22:15,442 --> 00:22:17,704
it was already established
that there was a sort of
484
00:22:17,804 --> 00:22:20,986
father and mother of
the rest of the group.
485
00:22:21,086 --> 00:22:23,308
Certainly the biggest baby
in the group, Daryl Dixon,
486
00:22:23,408 --> 00:22:26,670
you know, felt that
much earlier on.
487
00:22:26,770 --> 00:22:28,930
He had very mixed feelings
about our coupling.
488
00:22:29,011 --> 00:22:30,571
He was so... oh, my
God, he still does.
489
00:22:30,612 --> 00:22:32,309
He was like, "I'm mad.
Don't touch me. I'm mad."
490
00:22:32,333 --> 00:22:34,315
Yeah. I was like, "What
are you mad about?"
491
00:22:34,415 --> 00:22:36,232
He's like, "Michonne's supposed
to be with Daryl." Yeah.
492
00:22:36,256 --> 00:22:37,473
But then at the same
time, he was like,
493
00:22:37,497 --> 00:22:38,998
"Rick's supposed
to be with Daryl."
494
00:22:39,098 --> 00:22:41,760
Yeah. So he was just in
a bit of a conundrum.
495
00:22:41,860 --> 00:22:43,561
Yeah, he just didn't
know where to turn.
496
00:22:43,661 --> 00:22:45,202
He was very confused.
497
00:22:45,302 --> 00:22:49,365
It was a very difficult
season for Normski, bless him.
498
00:22:49,465 --> 00:22:51,466
Bless him.
499
00:22:58,311 --> 00:22:59,372
Son...
500
00:22:59,472 --> 00:23:00,572
What?
501
00:23:15,242 --> 00:23:17,103
Go! Go!
502
00:23:30,852 --> 00:23:35,476
Lincoln: So, Danai, this spot in
particular, does it haunt you?
503
00:23:35,576 --> 00:23:38,357
Yeah, this was the
Negan lineup place
504
00:23:38,457 --> 00:23:42,240
where it felt like we
spent about 200 days
505
00:23:42,340 --> 00:23:43,721
shooting on our knees.
506
00:23:43,821 --> 00:23:45,362
It was... It was awful.
507
00:23:45,462 --> 00:23:47,804
And it was... like, the
saddest part was to see,
508
00:23:47,904 --> 00:23:49,405
like, how defenceless we were.
509
00:23:49,505 --> 00:23:53,407
Like, we had no way
out of that situation.
510
00:23:53,507 --> 00:23:54,648
Eeny...
511
00:23:57,070 --> 00:23:59,211
Meeny
512
00:23:59,311 --> 00:24:00,972
miny
513
00:24:01,072 --> 00:24:03,894
moe.
514
00:24:03,994 --> 00:24:08,057
And we lost two spectacularly
brilliant actors.
515
00:24:08,157 --> 00:24:10,099
Yeah. Yeah.
516
00:24:10,199 --> 00:24:12,300
It was just here, wasn't
it? I mean, it was...
517
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,280
And they had that horrible
whistle, didn't they?
518
00:24:14,361 --> 00:24:15,262
With that...
519
00:24:15,362 --> 00:24:16,743
That
520
00:24:16,843 --> 00:24:18,184
Yeah. That.
521
00:24:18,284 --> 00:24:20,505
And he was such a
saunterer, you know?
522
00:24:20,605 --> 00:24:22,827
Mr. JDM.
523
00:24:22,927 --> 00:24:25,549
We had to just spent hours
and hours just watching him
524
00:24:25,649 --> 00:24:27,830
just masquerade, you know? Yeah.
525
00:24:27,930 --> 00:24:29,431
Well, bless him.
526
00:24:29,531 --> 00:24:30,988
I mean, he did have to
come and... Oh, no, no, no.
527
00:24:31,012 --> 00:24:32,113
He was brilliant, I mean.
528
00:24:32,213 --> 00:24:33,674
And do 14 pages of dialogue.
529
00:24:33,774 --> 00:24:36,756
I know, taking that role,
like, just dropping in
530
00:24:36,856 --> 00:24:40,078
and just blanching us,
that's no small task.
531
00:24:40,178 --> 00:24:42,796
It took a titan like JDM to do what
he did. Yeah, he was brilliant.
532
00:24:42,820 --> 00:24:45,162
It was, I mean, from an
audience perspective,
533
00:24:45,262 --> 00:24:46,603
he was extremely entertaining
534
00:24:46,703 --> 00:24:49,805
but utterly
horrifying, diabolical.
535
00:24:49,905 --> 00:24:53,447
I still think that that...
the reconciliation was,
536
00:24:53,547 --> 00:24:56,609
you know, so difficult with
with the Saviours, wasn't it?
537
00:24:56,709 --> 00:25:00,572
It was such a... an amazing
sort of ambitious idea
538
00:25:00,672 --> 00:25:04,935
for the writers to try
and rehabilitate him.
539
00:25:05,035 --> 00:25:06,096
Yeah. And they did it.
540
00:25:06,196 --> 00:25:07,737
They kind of did it. Yeah.
541
00:25:07,837 --> 00:25:11,820
I mean, I think by the
time I leave the show,
542
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,621
he's still locked up in a cage.
543
00:25:13,721 --> 00:25:15,142
Yeah. Good.
544
00:25:15,242 --> 00:25:17,023
Oh, but also, you
know, losing Steven,
545
00:25:17,123 --> 00:25:20,185
I fought so hard to try
and save Stephen. Did you?
546
00:25:20,285 --> 00:25:21,826
Yeah, because, you know,
547
00:25:21,926 --> 00:25:23,623
he was such a great friend
and he'd been there.
548
00:25:23,647 --> 00:25:25,269
He was a pillar of the show.
549
00:25:25,369 --> 00:25:26,709
Yeah. Big-time, big-time.
550
00:25:26,809 --> 00:25:28,271
But the death dinner
was a tradition
551
00:25:28,371 --> 00:25:31,232
that kind of kicked
in very early.
552
00:25:31,332 --> 00:25:33,474
I think it was Sarah Wayne
Callies that just went,
553
00:25:33,574 --> 00:25:34,791
"Well, let's do a death dinner."
554
00:25:34,815 --> 00:25:36,236
Great. It was a great idea.
555
00:25:36,336 --> 00:25:39,278
And what it did is that
it made sort of more sense
556
00:25:39,378 --> 00:25:41,880
for the person leaving,
hopefully, but also helped
557
00:25:41,980 --> 00:25:46,403
everybody recover from
the change in the dynamic.
558
00:25:46,503 --> 00:25:48,684
Yeah. You know, which I
thought was really inspired.
559
00:25:48,784 --> 00:25:51,086
And everyone could express
love to the person.
560
00:25:51,186 --> 00:25:52,767
Yeah, it was great.
It was just...
561
00:25:52,867 --> 00:25:56,529
Yeah, it was. It was like having
your funeral and being alive.
562
00:25:56,629 --> 00:25:57,690
Yeah.
563
00:25:57,790 --> 00:26:00,132
With Steven's, I had this idea.
564
00:26:00,232 --> 00:26:02,072
I was like, Steven was
such, like, a performer.
565
00:26:02,153 --> 00:26:06,296
He could dance, he could
sing like none of us could.
566
00:26:06,396 --> 00:26:08,217
And he would just be
always just singing
567
00:26:08,317 --> 00:26:10,379
like a lot of Justin Timberlake
568
00:26:10,479 --> 00:26:12,100
and like, you know,
the boy-band stuff.
569
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,982
So we did "I Want It
That Way" as a lip sync.
570
00:26:16,082 --> 00:26:18,220
We were all in white pants, and
we were all being like the guy.
571
00:26:18,244 --> 00:26:19,661
Oh, I do you remember
that? Yeah, yeah.
572
00:26:19,685 --> 00:26:23,027
And then Cudlitz as well.
Lovely Michael Cudlitz.
573
00:26:23,127 --> 00:26:25,669
Yes, who then came and directed
and directed some... Brilliant.
574
00:26:25,769 --> 00:26:29,031
Astounding moments I've been
able to do with him as an actor.
575
00:26:29,131 --> 00:26:30,668
I know there's a moment
in there you don't like
576
00:26:30,692 --> 00:26:32,113
and I won't talk
about it, but...
577
00:26:32,213 --> 00:26:33,754
Yeah, let's talk
about it. Why...
578
00:26:33,854 --> 00:26:38,757
'Cause why would you just bring
it up and then just move on?
579
00:26:38,857 --> 00:26:41,960
It was just a moment
where Ezekiel was about to
580
00:26:42,060 --> 00:26:45,202
possibly take his own life,
and Michonne stops him,
581
00:26:45,302 --> 00:26:47,043
and in his gratitude...
With your lips.
582
00:26:47,143 --> 00:26:48,703
No. No. You stopped
him with your lips.
583
00:26:48,784 --> 00:26:50,845
In his gratitude,
he then... we hug.
584
00:26:50,945 --> 00:26:55,809
And then, surprisingly to
Michonne, he does kiss her.
585
00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:58,050
Oh, he kisses her. Yeah,
of course he kisses her!
586
00:26:58,150 --> 00:26:59,527
She didn't kiss him.
Was it reciprocated?
587
00:26:59,551 --> 00:27:01,052
How long was it? No, not really.
588
00:27:10,238 --> 00:27:12,220
It couldn't have been
more than three...
589
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,461
Okay, that's reciprocated.
Two, three seconds.
590
00:27:14,561 --> 00:27:16,258
Anything past a second...
That is not reciprocated.
591
00:27:16,282 --> 00:27:18,464
How? How is that reciprocation?
...Is reciprocated.
592
00:27:18,564 --> 00:27:20,341
She pulls back like this. If
someone kisses, you move away.
593
00:27:20,365 --> 00:27:21,982
But you're never gonna watch
it, so this isn't a problem.
594
00:27:22,006 --> 00:27:23,463
That's not even a second.
It's like half a second.
595
00:27:23,487 --> 00:27:25,148
It's weird. It's
weird. Oh, my God.
596
00:27:25,248 --> 00:27:28,230
And then she proceeds to only
talk about Rick, like, so...
597
00:27:28,330 --> 00:27:30,031
That's even weirder.
598
00:27:30,131 --> 00:27:32,993
You might not know about this,
but in my final episode, I
599
00:27:33,093 --> 00:27:34,955
it was like a
"Sliding Doors" thing.
600
00:27:35,055 --> 00:27:36,236
You kiss someone else?
601
00:27:36,336 --> 00:27:37,717
I didn't kiss
anybody. Okay, good.
602
00:27:37,817 --> 00:27:39,714
Well, I mean, if we're gonna
do it, let's do it now.
603
00:27:39,738 --> 00:27:41,399
No, no. While we're recapping.
604
00:27:41,499 --> 00:27:42,920
Nobody...
605
00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:45,562
It was just a moment
where... you're so silly.
606
00:27:45,662 --> 00:27:47,302
You kind of go through
a journey with her
607
00:27:47,383 --> 00:27:50,605
of how it could have gone if
she hadn't made the choice,
608
00:27:50,705 --> 00:27:52,166
through her humanity,
to save her.
609
00:27:52,266 --> 00:27:55,208
And so you see this
really gruesome sequence
610
00:27:55,308 --> 00:27:57,690
where she just leaves
Andrea to get killed. Wow.
611
00:27:57,790 --> 00:27:59,531
So that's like her other reality
612
00:27:59,631 --> 00:28:01,693
and she becomes a Saviour.
613
00:28:01,793 --> 00:28:02,853
What?
614
00:28:02,953 --> 00:28:04,534
So this is all a "Sliding Door"
615
00:28:04,634 --> 00:28:06,252
sort of thing that's
going on in her mind.
616
00:28:06,276 --> 00:28:07,853
She's hallucinating because
she's been made high
617
00:28:07,877 --> 00:28:09,978
by some tea that
causes hallucinations.
618
00:28:10,078 --> 00:28:12,980
Long story. It's how she finds
your boots, though. Long story.
619
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,703
So then she's walking down the
line, and it's really freaky.
620
00:28:16,803 --> 00:28:19,865
I have an incident with you guys
where I'm the person saying,
621
00:28:19,965 --> 00:28:24,187
"Help me," and then you guys
drive past me in the car
622
00:28:24,287 --> 00:28:26,309
when I have the orange
backpack from episode 12...
623
00:28:26,409 --> 00:28:27,929
Oh, wow, wild...
But I'm that person.
624
00:28:27,970 --> 00:28:29,627
How wild. So then I
have beef with you guys.
625
00:28:29,651 --> 00:28:31,272
Something else happens
and I... oh, yeah,
626
00:28:31,372 --> 00:28:33,510
you go and shoot all the
people in the thing that we do.
627
00:28:33,534 --> 00:28:35,551
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I have
personal beef with you guys
628
00:28:35,575 --> 00:28:36,836
'cause I'm in one of the beds
629
00:28:36,936 --> 00:28:38,473
and I shoot a couple
people and get away.
630
00:28:38,497 --> 00:28:39,558
This is... who wrote this?
631
00:28:39,658 --> 00:28:41,519
It's crazy. This
is a great episode.
632
00:28:41,619 --> 00:28:43,276
He comes down the line... I kind
of wish I watched the show now.
633
00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:44,517
I kind of wish you
did too sometimes.
634
00:28:44,541 --> 00:28:45,958
It sounds like a
really good episode.
635
00:28:45,982 --> 00:28:47,319
He comes down the line,
he sees everybody.
636
00:28:47,343 --> 00:28:48,920
Then he says, "Now
I'm gonna let my girl
637
00:28:48,944 --> 00:28:51,326
who's been doing such great
work make her decision."
638
00:28:51,426 --> 00:28:53,287
Oh, and you kill the
person in the lineup?
639
00:28:53,387 --> 00:28:55,528
Yeah, but it ends up
being I kill myself.
640
00:28:55,628 --> 00:28:57,730
What happens next...
641
00:29:00,992 --> 00:29:02,813
It's your fault.
642
00:29:05,075 --> 00:29:09,418
Welcome to the new world.
643
00:29:09,518 --> 00:29:11,519
Hagh!
644
00:29:15,842 --> 00:29:18,424
I wonder how many scenes
we've done on this porch.
645
00:29:18,524 --> 00:29:21,666
You know what I mean?
It's so bizarre. Mm-hmm.
646
00:29:21,766 --> 00:29:25,268
This isn't the right porch,
but it's just brought to mind,
647
00:29:25,368 --> 00:29:28,991
you know, Scott Wilson
and his porch scene,
648
00:29:29,091 --> 00:29:33,434
which is after Carl's been
shot and we go to the farm.
649
00:29:33,534 --> 00:29:36,556
And I just want to shout out
Scott Wilson just because...
650
00:29:36,656 --> 00:29:38,317
Yes, the great Scott Wilson.
651
00:29:38,417 --> 00:29:40,638
Just because it was
such a privilege.
652
00:29:40,738 --> 00:29:42,760
He was just one of those
extraordinary mentors,
653
00:29:42,860 --> 00:29:44,601
wasn't he, that we all loved.
654
00:29:44,701 --> 00:29:47,443
Your exit from the show...
655
00:29:47,543 --> 00:29:49,004
Yeah.
656
00:29:49,104 --> 00:29:52,606
I thought they did
such a beautiful job.
657
00:29:52,706 --> 00:29:56,609
Particularly, I loved
our scene on the bridge.
658
00:29:56,709 --> 00:29:58,930
You're my family.
659
00:30:02,673 --> 00:30:04,014
I found you.
660
00:30:04,114 --> 00:30:06,936
You did.
661
00:30:07,036 --> 00:30:09,738
Lincoln: We were able to
say so much in that episode
662
00:30:09,838 --> 00:30:12,780
because of bringing
extraordinary actors back,
663
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,102
like Jon Bernthal
and... and Scott.
664
00:30:16,202 --> 00:30:19,464
And I think that that was
the brilliance of the writing
665
00:30:19,564 --> 00:30:22,706
was really, really
proper genre writing
666
00:30:22,806 --> 00:30:26,069
that you could sort of
break apart the form
667
00:30:26,169 --> 00:30:28,910
and try different things
and fail sometimes,
668
00:30:29,010 --> 00:30:30,592
but sometimes it works.
669
00:30:30,692 --> 00:30:33,473
I thought they did a
magnificent job with that exit.
670
00:30:33,573 --> 00:30:35,575
I found them.
671
00:31:20,925 --> 00:31:23,106
I have a B.
672
00:31:23,206 --> 00:31:25,828
Not an A. I never had an A.
673
00:31:25,928 --> 00:31:28,430
He's hurt, but he's
strong. Can you help him?
674
00:31:28,530 --> 00:31:31,592
I'm trying to save a friend.
675
00:31:31,692 --> 00:31:33,794
A friend who saved me.
676
00:31:33,894 --> 00:31:36,956
I have something for you now.
677
00:31:37,056 --> 00:31:38,757
We have a deal?
678
00:31:45,821 --> 00:31:48,683
You're still here.
679
00:31:48,783 --> 00:31:50,785
You're gonna be okay.
680
00:31:52,626 --> 00:31:55,048
They're gonna save you.
681
00:31:55,148 --> 00:31:59,891
It was hard leaving the
show. It was really hard.
682
00:31:59,991 --> 00:32:01,772
I knew what I was doing.
683
00:32:01,872 --> 00:32:04,454
I knew what I was... the
hole that I was leaving.
684
00:32:04,554 --> 00:32:07,336
And there was that
draw of wanting to stay
685
00:32:07,436 --> 00:32:10,818
and be with my family here,
but knowing that my real family
686
00:32:10,918 --> 00:32:12,980
was needing me back
home, you know?
687
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,942
And it... And it was... and,
you know, the truth was,
688
00:32:16,042 --> 00:32:19,104
I could have gone a year
earlier, and I wasn't ready to.
689
00:32:19,204 --> 00:32:22,706
I remember we were at Comic-Con
and I went, "I can't do it."
690
00:32:22,806 --> 00:32:26,268
And I said... I saw everybody,
and I was just like,
691
00:32:26,368 --> 00:32:28,030
"I'm gonna have to
stay a bit longer.
692
00:32:28,130 --> 00:32:30,912
I said to Scott, I said, "Scott,
I don't think I can do it yet.
693
00:32:31,012 --> 00:32:32,473
I haven't made peace with it."
694
00:32:32,573 --> 00:32:34,714
You know, it was a big deal.
695
00:32:34,814 --> 00:32:36,835
This is gonna
sound wrong, but...
696
00:32:36,935 --> 00:32:41,919
You preferred your experience
after I'd left the show. No.
697
00:32:42,019 --> 00:32:45,361
No, I don't mean it like
that. I don't, I swear.
698
00:32:45,461 --> 00:32:47,242
I don't. "But..."
699
00:32:47,342 --> 00:32:49,844
But there was an interesting...
There was a "but" coming.
700
00:32:49,944 --> 00:32:51,921
There was a navigation she
had to make. You can't...
701
00:32:51,945 --> 00:32:54,087
Okay, that's it. You
have to go your...
702
00:32:54,187 --> 00:32:56,609
It was like we had to
jump six years forward.
703
00:32:56,709 --> 00:32:58,810
And then she has a son now.
704
00:32:58,910 --> 00:33:01,972
She has a five-year-old
that looks just like him.
705
00:33:02,072 --> 00:33:05,895
And then she has this very
precocious 12-year-old daughter
706
00:33:05,995 --> 00:33:08,897
who walks around with her
little katana on her back.
707
00:33:08,997 --> 00:33:11,418
It was just so riveting and
amazing to work with her.
708
00:33:11,518 --> 00:33:13,580
Incredible. It was just
new beginnings so quick.
709
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,141
It was super smart.
710
00:33:15,241 --> 00:33:16,978
This little katana on her
back, which I just loved.
711
00:33:17,002 --> 00:33:18,162
Yeah. I already mentioned it.
712
00:33:18,243 --> 00:33:19,740
I loved that little
thing on her back.
713
00:33:19,764 --> 00:33:21,404
Now she's kind of
outgrown it, hasn't she?
714
00:33:21,485 --> 00:33:23,466
Did you steal that as well?
715
00:33:23,566 --> 00:33:27,989
Who exactly is supposed to
have that katana except me?
716
00:33:28,089 --> 00:33:31,712
Who, Andy? Who?
717
00:33:31,812 --> 00:33:33,073
Was it difficult for you?
718
00:33:33,173 --> 00:33:34,794
Because you went
the following year.
719
00:33:34,894 --> 00:33:36,595
Well, when you said
you were leaving,
720
00:33:36,695 --> 00:33:40,037
I think I knew it was
my time as well coming.
721
00:33:40,137 --> 00:33:42,519
And I didn't know
exactly how or when,
722
00:33:42,619 --> 00:33:45,241
but I knew I had to
start thinking like that.
723
00:33:45,341 --> 00:33:48,843
And when you left, you
said, "Now go lead."
724
00:33:48,943 --> 00:33:50,404
And I was like,
"What?" Oh, yeah.
725
00:33:50,504 --> 00:33:53,006
I was like, "That's
scary." Yeah.
726
00:33:53,106 --> 00:33:54,567
And I was like, "How?"
727
00:33:54,667 --> 00:33:58,089
And you were like, "Just do
what you... Do you. Be you."
728
00:33:58,189 --> 00:34:00,171
And I was like, "What
the F does that mean?"
729
00:34:00,271 --> 00:34:02,933
And I was like... you walked
away like fucking Yoda.
730
00:34:03,033 --> 00:34:05,775
And I'm just left
like... "What?"
731
00:34:05,875 --> 00:34:08,817
I think I might have meant
that for Norman, that...
732
00:34:08,917 --> 00:34:10,938
No, you didn't.
733
00:34:11,038 --> 00:34:12,099
No, I'm joking.
734
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:13,860
Though, yeah, I
mean, I was surprised
735
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,781
that you said it
to me, but you did.
736
00:34:15,881 --> 00:34:18,463
You... You asked me the
question, you know, earlier...
737
00:34:18,563 --> 00:34:20,785
What has it been like
to return to him?
738
00:34:20,885 --> 00:34:23,907
And I said, well, it's...
it's so easy and so effortless
739
00:34:24,007 --> 00:34:28,870
but also deeply important
to do it as well.
740
00:34:28,970 --> 00:34:31,227
And I'm thankful for you because
you were the one that said,
741
00:34:31,251 --> 00:34:32,672
"We have to. We should.
742
00:34:32,772 --> 00:34:34,109
You know, there's
a story to be told
743
00:34:34,133 --> 00:34:35,554
and we need to
finish this thing."
744
00:34:35,654 --> 00:34:37,756
And... And I thank you for that.
745
00:34:37,856 --> 00:34:41,879
And, you know, it's been
such a special experience.
746
00:34:41,979 --> 00:34:46,322
You can't... no matter
how many of these we do
747
00:34:46,422 --> 00:34:51,805
and how much information we give
you on film or... or in books
748
00:34:51,905 --> 00:34:56,088
or whatever, or at Comic-Cons,
you know, we lived it.
749
00:34:56,188 --> 00:34:58,850
It's like, I was thinking as
I was driving here, going,
750
00:34:58,950 --> 00:35:01,852
I used to drive back
listening to Johnny Cash
751
00:35:01,952 --> 00:35:03,813
when we'd done a
day that was great,
752
00:35:03,913 --> 00:35:05,254
like when you knocked me out
753
00:35:05,354 --> 00:35:06,815
and we had one of
those big days,
754
00:35:06,915 --> 00:35:09,017
and there was nothing
better than seeing
755
00:35:09,117 --> 00:35:10,778
a sort of Georgia sunset,
756
00:35:10,878 --> 00:35:12,819
listening to a bit of
Johnny Cash and going,
757
00:35:12,919 --> 00:35:15,101
"We had a good day
at the office."
758
00:35:15,201 --> 00:35:16,942
And only we sort of shared that.
759
00:35:17,042 --> 00:35:20,264
And it was... and it's
a very, very special,
760
00:35:20,364 --> 00:35:23,706
you know, thing that
we'll always have.
761
00:35:23,806 --> 00:35:24,947
Yeah.
762
00:35:31,331 --> 00:35:34,434
Hey, Rick.
763
00:35:34,534 --> 00:35:35,554
Come here.
764
00:35:35,654 --> 00:35:37,676
Look at this.
765
00:35:43,259 --> 00:35:46,121
This place.
766
00:35:48,103 --> 00:35:50,104
It's beautiful.
767
00:35:51,585 --> 00:35:54,367
Man on P.A.: Consignee
Grimes, you've been located
768
00:35:54,467 --> 00:35:56,088
and are instructed to surrender.
769
00:35:56,188 --> 00:36:00,011
Remain in place
with your hands up.
770
00:36:08,636 --> 00:36:10,297
Come on, Rick.
771
00:36:10,397 --> 00:36:12,699
It's like he told you.
772
00:36:12,799 --> 00:36:14,880
There's no escape
from the living.
773
00:36:16,802 --> 00:36:19,864
Michonne: Remember what I said.
774
00:36:19,964 --> 00:36:23,426
It's what he said.
Hold it to your heart.
775
00:36:23,526 --> 00:36:25,708
It's true.
776
00:36:25,808 --> 00:36:27,429
Forever.
777
00:36:31,451 --> 00:36:33,753
We are the ones who live.
778
00:36:38,416 --> 00:36:40,477
Rick: We're the ones who live.
779
00:36:43,980 --> 00:36:49,884
What was it like, Danai, to
reprise the role of Michonne
780
00:36:49,984 --> 00:36:53,246
in the six-part
miniseries for AMC?
781
00:36:53,346 --> 00:36:55,768
It was incredible. I
mean, it was very intense.
782
00:36:55,868 --> 00:36:58,690
I mean, we started off,
it was the three of us,
783
00:36:58,790 --> 00:37:00,491
you know, creating this thing,
784
00:37:00,591 --> 00:37:03,133
and we got a lot done in
a short amount of time
785
00:37:03,233 --> 00:37:05,734
in terms of figuring out
what this was supposed to be.
786
00:37:05,834 --> 00:37:07,095
It was an epic love story
787
00:37:07,195 --> 00:37:09,257
is kind of the heart
of it, wasn't it?
788
00:37:09,357 --> 00:37:14,300
These two incredibly
similar types of people
789
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,021
that love one another
have disappeared
790
00:37:16,121 --> 00:37:18,062
from the mother ship,
and we just wanted
791
00:37:18,162 --> 00:37:20,020
to sort of fill in the
blanks, really, didn't we?
792
00:37:20,044 --> 00:37:21,661
Well, yeah, it was it
was definitely a story
793
00:37:21,685 --> 00:37:23,226
that needed to be completed.
794
00:37:23,326 --> 00:37:26,348
And I do think that these
characters are so beloved,
795
00:37:26,448 --> 00:37:28,149
you know, by us as well.
796
00:37:28,249 --> 00:37:30,911
You know, we were... so to be
part of that creative process
797
00:37:31,011 --> 00:37:36,114
and to have a bit more input
from the sort of the genesis
798
00:37:36,214 --> 00:37:38,396
was really exciting
because, you know,
799
00:37:38,496 --> 00:37:41,278
and I think a lot of it was,
"What would I want to see?"
800
00:37:41,378 --> 00:37:43,599
Mm-hmm. You know,
you wrote an episode
801
00:37:43,699 --> 00:37:45,561
and starred in it and
produced an episode
802
00:37:45,661 --> 00:37:47,322
as you were filming... Yeah.
803
00:37:47,422 --> 00:37:50,284
As well, and I was so impressed.
804
00:37:50,384 --> 00:37:52,926
I was so kind of
shocked at your capacity
805
00:37:53,026 --> 00:37:55,888
to be able to wear all of
these hats at the same time.
806
00:37:55,988 --> 00:37:58,609
I don't think I would
be able to do that,
807
00:37:58,709 --> 00:37:59,930
you know what I mean?
808
00:38:00,030 --> 00:38:02,092
Were you able to kind
of navigate that?
809
00:38:02,192 --> 00:38:03,933
Yeah, I mean, it
was... it was intense.
810
00:38:04,033 --> 00:38:05,734
It was intense, but
it was just like
811
00:38:05,834 --> 00:38:07,415
once I'd started to write it
812
00:38:07,515 --> 00:38:09,693
and I was getting more and more
invested in getting it as rich
813
00:38:09,717 --> 00:38:11,854
as it needed to be for the
characters and for the journey,
814
00:38:11,878 --> 00:38:13,459
there was just no
letting go of it.
815
00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:15,559
It was like, it's your kid.
Now it's just your kid.
816
00:38:15,601 --> 00:38:16,841
You just take care of your kid.
817
00:38:16,922 --> 00:38:18,459
But anyway, the long
and short of it was
818
00:38:18,483 --> 00:38:21,785
it was extremely intense
and extremely hard
819
00:38:21,885 --> 00:38:23,466
and also extremely
rewarding. Yeah.
820
00:38:23,566 --> 00:38:27,909
Everybody was just incredible
with enacting the vision I had.
821
00:38:28,009 --> 00:38:29,249
As were you. As were you, Andy.
822
00:38:29,290 --> 00:38:30,871
Bless you. No, but we were...
823
00:38:30,971 --> 00:38:33,593
Sometimes I was a little...
bossy. No, no, but...
824
00:38:33,693 --> 00:38:35,474
You... no. "Bossy" is
not the right word.
825
00:38:35,574 --> 00:38:36,835
Is it not the right word? No.
826
00:38:36,935 --> 00:38:38,596
Good! What was it?
I think "specific."
827
00:38:38,696 --> 00:38:41,598
Okay! I love that word! Yay.
828
00:38:41,698 --> 00:38:44,280
But I think.
829
00:38:44,380 --> 00:38:49,523
The fact that we're trying
to explore a new world,
830
00:38:49,623 --> 00:38:51,405
we're sort of world-building.
831
00:38:51,505 --> 00:38:53,686
We're not "sort of."
We are world building.
832
00:38:53,786 --> 00:38:56,568
And what I've always
loved in the show
833
00:38:56,668 --> 00:38:58,289
is when we meet
people or strangers
834
00:38:58,389 --> 00:39:00,130
and you hear their story.
835
00:39:00,230 --> 00:39:02,212
So what I want to hear
is the bigger story
836
00:39:02,312 --> 00:39:04,293
of what's been happening in the
837
00:39:04,393 --> 00:39:07,295
you know, in America,
in the continent,
838
00:39:07,395 --> 00:39:09,697
while we've been scrabbling
around in the dirt.
839
00:39:09,797 --> 00:39:14,260
But also, for me, it was always
about the reason that we do this
840
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,862
is to get these two lovers
together, to tell a love story.
841
00:39:17,962 --> 00:39:21,144
Because after all, when
you're on your deathbed,
842
00:39:21,244 --> 00:39:22,625
what else is worth
talking about?
843
00:39:22,725 --> 00:39:24,062
You know what I
mean? Right, right.
844
00:39:24,086 --> 00:39:25,427
It's love, man. Right.
845
00:39:25,527 --> 00:39:27,669
And I think that the
story began with a man
846
00:39:27,769 --> 00:39:30,350
looking for his family,
847
00:39:30,450 --> 00:39:36,274
and it finishes, potentially,
with these two lovers,
848
00:39:36,374 --> 00:39:39,797
hopefully finding one another
and completing the circle.
849
00:39:39,897 --> 00:39:42,879
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
66742
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