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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,972 --> 00:00:06,107 [Joe] Wish I could have bought it. 2 00:00:06,207 --> 00:00:08,342 [Terry] Yeah, you could just walk from there anywhere. 3 00:00:08,442 --> 00:00:09,710 [Joe] Yeah, back then it was like 4 00:00:09,810 --> 00:00:11,645 7-Eleven or the Whole Foods. 5 00:00:11,745 --> 00:00:13,047 There weren't that many options. 6 00:00:13,147 --> 00:00:14,082 Are you guys ready to go? 7 00:00:14,182 --> 00:00:15,249 [Film Crew] We're rolling. 8 00:00:15,349 --> 00:00:16,484 [Female] Yeah, just once you're pen clicking 9 00:00:16,584 --> 00:00:18,119 and you're paper's shot. 10 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:21,422 [Joe] Terry, I always heard 11 00:00:21,522 --> 00:00:24,125 that for the very first Austin City Limits, 12 00:00:24,225 --> 00:00:27,995 it was supposed to be Doug and Willie together, 13 00:00:28,096 --> 00:00:31,799 and for some reason, Willie said, supposedly, 14 00:00:31,899 --> 00:00:35,236 "I'll do it, but I'll do it alone." 15 00:00:35,336 --> 00:00:38,172 And it's a rumor, but if it's true, 16 00:00:38,272 --> 00:00:41,742 he did not want to share the stage with Doug Sahm. 17 00:00:42,776 --> 00:00:44,745 You ever hear that? 18 00:00:44,845 --> 00:00:47,715 - I have never heard that story. 19 00:00:47,815 --> 00:00:50,518 [clapping] [whooping] 20 00:00:50,618 --> 00:00:53,587 [guitar tuning] 21 00:00:53,687 --> 00:00:56,490 Willie is not the type who would turn down 22 00:00:56,590 --> 00:00:58,959 an opportunity to perform with somebody else. 23 00:00:59,059 --> 00:01:01,729 Willie loves to get on stage with other people. 24 00:01:01,829 --> 00:01:05,233 Now, I can imagine Willie's manager saying that. 25 00:01:07,935 --> 00:01:09,937 - Are you on, Augie? 26 00:01:10,037 --> 00:01:11,772 Are you on? 27 00:01:11,872 --> 00:01:12,773 Wonderful. 28 00:01:14,508 --> 00:01:22,550 [music "She's About A Mover"] 29 00:01:22,650 --> 00:01:34,094 * 30 00:01:34,195 --> 00:01:37,431 * Well, she was walkin' down the street, * 31 00:01:38,199 --> 00:01:41,335 * Lookin' fine as she could be 32 00:01:42,536 --> 00:01:44,238 * Hey hey 33 00:01:45,139 --> 00:01:48,609 * Well she was a-walkin' down the street * 34 00:01:48,909 --> 00:01:51,745 * Lookin' fine as she could be * 35 00:01:52,713 --> 00:01:54,648 * Hey hey 36 00:01:55,649 --> 00:01:58,752 * Well you have love and conversation * 37 00:01:59,220 --> 00:02:02,156 * Oh now baby baby what I say * 38 00:02:03,557 --> 00:02:05,259 * Hey hey 39 00:02:06,026 --> 00:02:07,761 * She's about a mover 40 00:02:07,861 --> 00:02:08,729 Sing it 41 00:02:08,829 --> 00:02:10,498 * She's about a mover 42 00:02:11,199 --> 00:02:13,234 * She's about a mover 43 00:02:13,867 --> 00:02:15,769 * She's about a mover 44 00:02:15,869 --> 00:02:17,738 * Hey hey hey hey 45 00:02:18,939 --> 00:02:22,276 [Bill] Doug had the most pure musical spirit of anybody. 46 00:02:22,376 --> 00:02:25,613 Other musicians that knew about Doug revered him, 47 00:02:25,713 --> 00:02:26,980 but the ones who didn't, 48 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,716 didn't know who I was talking about. 49 00:02:30,618 --> 00:02:34,222 - * Oh now baby baby what I say * 50 00:02:34,888 --> 00:02:35,989 * Hey hey 51 00:02:36,089 --> 00:02:37,558 Play it Augie! 52 00:02:37,658 --> 00:02:39,260 - People said, "Man, I never heard 53 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:40,328 "this kind of music before. 54 00:02:40,428 --> 00:02:42,796 "I've heard Mexican polka music, 55 00:02:42,896 --> 00:02:45,633 "and conjunto and stuff, but y'all play different, 56 00:02:45,733 --> 00:02:47,968 and it's got that rock feel to it." 57 00:02:48,068 --> 00:02:50,538 - * Well she strolled on up to me * 58 00:02:51,572 --> 00:02:54,842 * And said hey big boy what's your name * 59 00:02:55,343 --> 00:02:57,211 - It's infectious, what do you call that word? 60 00:02:57,311 --> 00:03:00,281 It's there, you know, it's got a groove to it. 61 00:03:01,282 --> 00:03:03,851 - * And said hey big boy what's your name * 62 00:03:03,951 --> 00:03:06,954 [Dan] Doug was never satisfied with one thing. 63 00:03:07,788 --> 00:03:11,058 - * Well you know I love you baby * 64 00:03:11,892 --> 00:03:13,294 [Dan] You know, if this record was on Venus, 65 00:03:13,394 --> 00:03:15,563 the next one would be on Mars. 66 00:03:16,797 --> 00:03:18,466 - You know, you know where the groove is at. 67 00:03:18,566 --> 00:03:20,000 That California thing, don't get it, 68 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:22,770 that far out in space music man, play the real thing, man. 69 00:03:22,870 --> 00:03:24,572 [guitar mimicking] 70 00:03:24,672 --> 00:03:26,507 You know, man. 71 00:03:26,607 --> 00:03:28,041 - Oh, yep. 72 00:03:28,141 --> 00:03:34,181 [harmonica solo] 73 00:03:34,282 --> 00:03:36,850 - My dad wasn't just a gimmick. 74 00:03:38,151 --> 00:03:39,587 He had such a long lasting career 75 00:03:39,687 --> 00:03:42,523 that he was able to reinvent himself several times. 76 00:03:42,623 --> 00:03:44,758 Most people don't get that. 77 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:47,828 - I think if he knew less songs, 78 00:03:47,928 --> 00:03:50,731 if he wrote less songs, if he played a little bit worse, 79 00:03:50,831 --> 00:03:52,900 he would have been a much bigger star. 80 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,737 - If you really wanna know why Doug Sahm never got huge, 81 00:03:56,837 --> 00:03:59,440 he could never stay in one band long enough 82 00:03:59,540 --> 00:04:01,775 for people to fall in love him, 83 00:04:01,875 --> 00:04:04,678 and then continue to love what they first fell in love with. 84 00:04:04,778 --> 00:04:15,155 [rock music] 85 00:04:15,255 --> 00:04:26,334 * 86 00:04:26,434 --> 00:04:34,942 [cheering and applause] 87 00:04:38,078 --> 00:04:39,513 [Chuck] You know, there's a quote about you, Doug. 88 00:04:39,613 --> 00:04:40,914 "You're as comfortable in the world of Willie Nelson 89 00:04:41,014 --> 00:04:43,384 as you are in the world of the Grateful Dead." 90 00:04:43,484 --> 00:04:45,819 It's kind of a paradox it seems to some people. 91 00:04:45,919 --> 00:04:47,187 - Uh-huh, it's strange. - Why's it so? 92 00:04:47,287 --> 00:04:48,456 Why would it be? 93 00:04:48,556 --> 00:04:49,557 [Doug] Country was the first thing, you know. 94 00:04:49,657 --> 00:04:51,459 As a little kid, I used to go and watch Bob Wills. 95 00:04:51,559 --> 00:04:52,660 [Chuck] Bob Wills the legend. 96 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,662 [Doug] Charlie Walker, Lefty Frizzell, 97 00:04:54,762 --> 00:04:56,764 then I got into blues as I got older. 98 00:04:56,864 --> 00:04:59,032 [blues music] 99 00:04:59,132 --> 00:05:00,434 Where I was raised was about 100 00:05:00,534 --> 00:05:02,936 four football fields from where this black club was 101 00:05:03,036 --> 00:05:04,972 that had T-Bone Walker, and I could go up there 102 00:05:05,072 --> 00:05:08,308 as a kid and stand up on a box and look in and see T-Bone. 103 00:05:08,409 --> 00:05:13,447 [music "Hey Baby"] 104 00:05:13,547 --> 00:05:16,584 I just come up kinda digging all kinds of music. 105 00:05:16,684 --> 00:05:20,454 * 106 00:05:20,554 --> 00:05:22,990 - I never, like, Doug and I, some of the other guys, 107 00:05:23,090 --> 00:05:24,191 we were a little bit too young, 108 00:05:24,291 --> 00:05:25,325 they wouldn't let us in the club, 109 00:05:25,426 --> 00:05:29,430 but we could go and we'd peek in the Tiffany Lounge 110 00:05:29,530 --> 00:05:31,064 and we would see Little Sammy, 111 00:05:31,164 --> 00:05:32,199 and he'd be playing, 112 00:05:32,299 --> 00:05:33,367 * I'm just a gigolo 113 00:05:33,467 --> 00:05:34,868 and we were like, "Man," 114 00:05:34,968 --> 00:05:37,905 we was like, "I wanna do what he's doing." 115 00:05:38,005 --> 00:05:39,540 - I lived with my grandparents till I was 10 116 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,041 'cause I couldn't walk, I had polio, 117 00:05:41,141 --> 00:05:42,843 and there was this bus that come across the street 118 00:05:42,943 --> 00:05:45,212 to my momma's house on Friday and Saturday 119 00:05:45,312 --> 00:05:46,780 if I was there on the weekend with them, 120 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,716 and the guys would get off the bus 121 00:05:48,816 --> 00:05:50,484 about 5 o'clock in the afternoon, 122 00:05:50,584 --> 00:05:52,953 drank beer, and laughing and singing, 123 00:05:53,053 --> 00:05:54,488 and about one or two o'clock in the morning, 124 00:05:54,588 --> 00:05:56,156 that bus would come back and let them people off. 125 00:05:56,256 --> 00:05:58,559 They're still drinking beer and laughing and singing, 126 00:05:58,659 --> 00:06:00,260 and I used to tell my momma, I said, 127 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:01,895 "Momma, that's what I want to do." 128 00:06:01,995 --> 00:06:12,606 [country music] 129 00:06:12,706 --> 00:06:14,975 - Doug was just mesmerized by music, you know, 130 00:06:15,075 --> 00:06:16,710 I mean, he was in a trance, I just think 131 00:06:16,810 --> 00:06:19,947 he just, just floating with it, you know. 132 00:06:21,749 --> 00:06:24,384 When these big time musicians would play, 133 00:06:24,485 --> 00:06:26,620 he would just hover around that steel guitar 134 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,457 and he was in another world. 135 00:06:29,557 --> 00:06:30,924 - * One sunny day 136 00:06:33,661 --> 00:06:36,497 - He would then go home, crank the guitar up, 137 00:06:36,597 --> 00:06:38,899 and start playing that thing till 11 o'clock at night 138 00:06:38,999 --> 00:06:41,502 trying to get the sound, and that is the process 139 00:06:41,602 --> 00:06:44,137 that went on and on and on and on. 140 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,810 It was four of us living in this 20 by 20 room. 141 00:06:51,078 --> 00:06:53,013 Things were tough. 142 00:06:55,516 --> 00:06:57,718 There was a country and western night club 143 00:06:57,818 --> 00:07:00,721 that was near us called The Barn. 144 00:07:00,821 --> 00:07:04,458 He would put on a sideshow or intermission show 145 00:07:04,558 --> 00:07:07,495 playing the steel guitar. 146 00:07:07,595 --> 00:07:09,763 He wasn't like the average kid. 147 00:07:09,863 --> 00:07:12,566 They called my brother this prodigy. 148 00:07:12,666 --> 00:07:14,301 - * Rollin' 149 00:07:14,401 --> 00:07:16,770 * Rollin' along 150 00:07:16,870 --> 00:07:20,808 * I am nothing but a rollin' stone * 151 00:07:20,908 --> 00:07:24,945 * Don't have a worry and I don't have a care * 152 00:07:25,045 --> 00:07:28,749 * I'm always a-goin' but I never get there * 153 00:07:28,849 --> 00:07:31,485 * I just keep rollin' 154 00:07:31,585 --> 00:07:32,786 [Chuck] You started with steel, 155 00:07:32,886 --> 00:07:34,755 which is usually the last instrument anybody goes to. 156 00:07:34,855 --> 00:07:36,824 It's usually basically starting with acoustic guitar. 157 00:07:36,924 --> 00:07:38,592 [Doug] Yeah, and I remember Hank's birthday 158 00:07:38,692 --> 00:07:40,528 as a little kid, and he heard me playing my steel, 159 00:07:40,628 --> 00:07:42,295 he said, "Well, you really play that guitar," 160 00:07:42,395 --> 00:07:44,097 and he was really a nice guy. 161 00:07:44,197 --> 00:07:47,400 - * I always keep a-rollin' until I see day * 162 00:07:47,501 --> 00:07:51,839 * 163 00:07:51,939 --> 00:07:53,406 - At a young age, he was already living 164 00:07:53,507 --> 00:07:55,676 an adult life playing honky-tonks. 165 00:07:55,776 --> 00:07:56,977 They would throw money at him, 166 00:07:57,077 --> 00:07:59,747 and his feet couldn't even touch the ground yet. 167 00:07:59,847 --> 00:08:02,415 The world revolves around a seven year old. 168 00:08:02,516 --> 00:08:03,784 You don't think that was, you know? 169 00:08:03,884 --> 00:08:06,153 And he knew it, man, I mean, he knew, 170 00:08:06,253 --> 00:08:08,622 he knew he had it. 171 00:08:10,758 --> 00:08:12,660 [Vic] This little family that lived out there 172 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,997 on the east side of town all of a sudden had recognition. 173 00:08:19,967 --> 00:08:23,771 - Oh, I met Doug more like, 11, 12 years old. 174 00:08:23,871 --> 00:08:26,574 [Joe] What was the context you all met? 175 00:08:26,674 --> 00:08:27,908 I mean, you just-- 176 00:08:28,008 --> 00:08:29,843 - Well, I carried the groceries out to the car 177 00:08:29,943 --> 00:08:31,044 and I saw his guitar and I say, 178 00:08:31,144 --> 00:08:32,580 "You play guitar?" and Doug said, "Yeah," 179 00:08:32,680 --> 00:08:35,783 he said, "I play steel guitar and guitar," 180 00:08:35,883 --> 00:08:37,751 and I said, "Well, I play a little bit of piano," 181 00:08:37,851 --> 00:08:38,986 I tried to play guitar, but I couldn't, 182 00:08:39,086 --> 00:08:41,789 my hand was still, from the polio. 183 00:08:41,889 --> 00:08:44,725 [Doug] It was some time to be playing music over there. 184 00:08:44,825 --> 00:08:47,027 It was me and Augie and we really were 185 00:08:47,127 --> 00:08:48,161 pretty into learning. 186 00:08:48,261 --> 00:08:50,564 - When my grandfather went to work in the field, 187 00:08:50,664 --> 00:08:52,833 he used to tie my left leg 188 00:08:52,933 --> 00:08:55,736 to my leg and to the leg of the piano 189 00:08:55,836 --> 00:08:57,605 and give me a pie pan with a sandwich, 190 00:08:57,705 --> 00:08:59,873 some cookies and a jar of water, 191 00:08:59,973 --> 00:09:03,844 and I'd sit there and try to play the piano. 192 00:09:03,944 --> 00:09:05,278 - Growing up in San Antonio, see, 193 00:09:05,378 --> 00:09:06,747 it was this melting pot of music. 194 00:09:06,847 --> 00:09:08,115 Of course, Doug had grew up, 195 00:09:08,215 --> 00:09:10,651 I think he went to Sam Houston High School, 196 00:09:10,751 --> 00:09:12,385 and that Augie went to Breckenridge, 197 00:09:12,485 --> 00:09:14,822 I went to Edgewood, and so 198 00:09:14,922 --> 00:09:17,791 there were all these little gigs that we played 199 00:09:17,891 --> 00:09:20,260 around town and stuff like that. 200 00:09:20,894 --> 00:09:23,797 - When I met Doug, he was living out 201 00:09:23,897 --> 00:09:26,800 maybe across the field from Eastwood. 202 00:09:27,567 --> 00:09:29,136 I went to his mother, 203 00:09:29,236 --> 00:09:32,572 I asked her if Doug could come and play with the big boys. 204 00:09:32,673 --> 00:09:34,942 She says, "Come pick him up at 7:30 205 00:09:35,042 --> 00:09:37,044 and have him back home at 12:30." 206 00:09:37,144 --> 00:09:40,413 - Somehow, both Doug and I ended up in his band 207 00:09:40,513 --> 00:09:41,682 at the same time. 208 00:09:41,782 --> 00:09:43,917 "Wow, we're in Spot Barnett's band," you know, 209 00:09:44,017 --> 00:09:46,086 he was the king of the East Side. 210 00:09:48,656 --> 00:09:50,157 - People think that I hired Doug 211 00:09:50,257 --> 00:09:52,626 because he was a white boy and this and that and the other, 212 00:09:52,726 --> 00:09:53,827 and that's not the case. 213 00:09:53,927 --> 00:09:55,729 Some nights, we had to play blues, 214 00:09:55,829 --> 00:09:59,299 and some things had to be tailored to Hispanic. 215 00:09:59,399 --> 00:10:02,836 Some nights, we had to play country and western. 216 00:10:02,936 --> 00:10:07,074 Doug could play anything with anybody. 217 00:10:07,574 --> 00:10:09,542 - You know, the East Side was black, 218 00:10:09,643 --> 00:10:12,680 West Side was Hispanic. 219 00:10:12,780 --> 00:10:14,748 North and south were Anglo. 220 00:10:14,848 --> 00:10:16,116 [Doug] People go, you know, 221 00:10:16,216 --> 00:10:17,818 "How did you pick up on all these different things?" 222 00:10:17,918 --> 00:10:19,452 But when you were growing up here, 223 00:10:19,552 --> 00:10:21,188 you had to be pretty versatile 224 00:10:21,288 --> 00:10:24,825 to get a job in the local clubs in San Antonio. 225 00:10:25,959 --> 00:10:27,527 - I never start playing that stuff 226 00:10:27,627 --> 00:10:28,729 till I started playing with Doug, 227 00:10:28,829 --> 00:10:30,731 and he was, he would, taught me some things, you know? 228 00:10:30,831 --> 00:10:33,433 And that was great, man, learning from Doug, 229 00:10:33,533 --> 00:10:34,868 'cause he knew his music. 230 00:10:34,968 --> 00:10:37,504 - I guess Doug was like an older brother to me 231 00:10:37,604 --> 00:10:38,839 or something, you know? 232 00:10:38,939 --> 00:10:41,008 We idolized Doug because, I mean, 233 00:10:41,108 --> 00:10:42,609 he was on the radio all the time, 234 00:10:42,710 --> 00:10:44,111 and he was playing clubs downtown, 235 00:10:44,211 --> 00:10:46,113 he was a few years older than we were, 236 00:10:46,213 --> 00:10:48,515 so we just thought he was the greatest. 237 00:10:48,615 --> 00:10:50,283 - My father and mother and myself 238 00:10:50,383 --> 00:10:52,953 were rather conservative people, 239 00:10:53,053 --> 00:10:56,690 and my brother in high school was out there. 240 00:10:56,790 --> 00:10:59,793 One of his groups did a matinee show 241 00:10:59,893 --> 00:11:03,196 at the high school, and they cautioned Doug, 242 00:11:03,296 --> 00:11:05,132 "Do not wiggle. 243 00:11:05,232 --> 00:11:08,501 If you wiggle, we're going to pull the curtain on you." 244 00:11:08,601 --> 00:11:10,270 Of course, once he got playing the music, 245 00:11:10,370 --> 00:11:11,104 off he went. 246 00:11:11,204 --> 00:11:14,607 - * I got a girl here so fine * 247 00:11:14,708 --> 00:11:18,045 - My dad was a very eccentric kinda cat. 248 00:11:18,145 --> 00:11:20,680 He marched to the beat of his own drummer. 249 00:11:20,781 --> 00:11:26,720 - * But she treats me so so so so so so very bad * 250 00:11:26,820 --> 00:11:29,489 - They pulled the curtain and it caused a riot. 251 00:11:29,589 --> 00:11:36,730 [rhythm and blues music] 252 00:11:36,830 --> 00:11:39,699 [Vic] The police came out, my parents got involved, 253 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,002 and we were the talk of the town, 254 00:11:42,102 --> 00:11:44,571 "That Sahm kid has gone crazy, 255 00:11:44,671 --> 00:11:46,639 these kids are fearing for their life." 256 00:11:46,740 --> 00:11:48,241 - * I don't love you baby 257 00:11:48,341 --> 00:11:49,943 * I don't need you 258 00:11:50,043 --> 00:11:52,379 * I've got a life now 259 00:11:54,647 --> 00:11:56,683 - My dad's whole life revolved around 260 00:11:56,784 --> 00:11:58,351 what he called the groove, you know? 261 00:11:58,451 --> 00:12:00,687 The groove is a million things, 262 00:12:00,788 --> 00:12:03,723 but it's basically things that make Doug happy. 263 00:12:03,824 --> 00:12:07,460 Good food, good music, beautiful women. 264 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:11,832 - * Why why why 265 00:12:13,233 --> 00:12:15,202 - My mom worked at Montgomery Wards 266 00:12:15,302 --> 00:12:18,205 and she was asked to hire the entertainment 267 00:12:18,305 --> 00:12:21,041 for this New Year's Eve party or something, 268 00:12:21,141 --> 00:12:23,710 so everyone kept saying, "Hey, get Doug Sahm." 269 00:12:23,811 --> 00:12:25,378 She goes, "I'll never forget, they said, 270 00:12:25,478 --> 00:12:26,346 'Doug, this is Violet.' 271 00:12:26,446 --> 00:12:27,981 "He looked over at me with his lip going, 272 00:12:28,081 --> 00:12:29,850 "'Hey baby, what happening baby, yeah?'" 273 00:12:29,950 --> 00:12:31,684 I said, "Well, Mom, what'd you think of Dad 274 00:12:31,785 --> 00:12:32,986 when you met him, you know?" 275 00:12:33,086 --> 00:12:34,621 She goes, "Oh, he was such a creep, honey, 276 00:12:34,721 --> 00:12:36,790 I'm sorry to say that." 277 00:12:39,392 --> 00:12:43,396 So he has her sit on stage, and he's singing songs to her, 278 00:12:43,496 --> 00:12:44,731 and he's doing all that, 279 00:12:44,832 --> 00:12:48,135 so the creep went from the creep to Prince Charming 280 00:12:48,235 --> 00:12:51,004 and lo and behold, here we all are, good Lord. 281 00:12:52,672 --> 00:12:56,243 - * Was it was it was it because * 282 00:12:56,343 --> 00:12:59,612 * Of my first love 283 00:12:59,947 --> 00:13:01,448 [Shawn] He was 25 years old, he's got hit records, 284 00:13:01,548 --> 00:13:03,851 and here's what's really weird. 285 00:13:03,951 --> 00:13:07,888 He married a lady with three kids already. 286 00:13:10,257 --> 00:13:13,393 The way he felt about my mom was unlike any other. 287 00:13:18,565 --> 00:13:20,800 - Yes siree mes amis, on Friday night here, 288 00:13:20,901 --> 00:13:24,071 the Crazy Cajun on the [speaking Cajun.] 289 00:13:24,171 --> 00:13:25,906 Doing a turn like if we had 290 00:13:26,006 --> 00:13:27,507 all kind of good senses now, Houston. 291 00:13:27,607 --> 00:13:30,343 Gonna be our last night here on the radio tonight, 292 00:13:30,443 --> 00:13:33,013 so hang a bit around, listen, got some good hits for you. 293 00:13:33,113 --> 00:13:34,214 Turn the tape recorder on, 294 00:13:34,314 --> 00:13:36,749 I might not be around for a long time darlin'. 295 00:13:36,850 --> 00:13:38,185 [Harvey] I heard so much about Huey. 296 00:13:38,285 --> 00:13:40,020 I mean, he was the man in Houston, 297 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,122 and he was the man that could get you 298 00:13:42,222 --> 00:13:45,025 get you on a big label and, you know, make hits. 299 00:13:45,125 --> 00:13:48,495 You think gangster mafia type thing-- 300 00:13:48,595 --> 00:13:50,763 it was a wilder situation. 301 00:13:50,864 --> 00:13:52,765 - Doug just sent him tapes, 302 00:13:52,866 --> 00:13:55,936 and he said, "Send me a hit, I want a hit." 303 00:13:56,036 --> 00:13:59,006 - Doug Sahm used to drive me nuts. 304 00:13:59,106 --> 00:14:00,974 He used to come in the morning and drive me crazy. 305 00:14:01,074 --> 00:14:02,242 Wanted to record, always wanted to record. 306 00:14:02,342 --> 00:14:05,178 I'd ask, "What am I gonna do with this son of a bitch?" 307 00:14:05,278 --> 00:14:06,679 - Huey said, "Let's get a band together, 308 00:14:06,779 --> 00:14:07,981 I want y'all to put a band together." 309 00:14:08,081 --> 00:14:09,316 Doug called me a couple of weeks later, 310 00:14:09,416 --> 00:14:10,951 he said, "Man, come down, we'll practice," 311 00:14:11,051 --> 00:14:14,287 and I'd only a Vox organ in America at that time, 312 00:14:14,387 --> 00:14:17,224 and we'd practice for a couple of days, and he said, 313 00:14:17,324 --> 00:14:19,659 "You're right on it, so let's go play." 314 00:14:19,759 --> 00:14:21,728 [Doug] He was really trying to pick up on something 315 00:14:21,828 --> 00:14:23,863 that would hit the British nation. 316 00:14:23,964 --> 00:14:25,198 [Huey] See, I got an idea. 317 00:14:25,298 --> 00:14:26,900 Everything was British, British, British, 318 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:31,004 so we came up with the Sir Douglas Quintet. 319 00:14:31,104 --> 00:14:34,441 - Huey Meaux made us put these clown suits on 320 00:14:34,541 --> 00:14:35,708 with tails and everything, 321 00:14:35,808 --> 00:14:38,278 and we had to call ourselves Sir Augie, 322 00:14:38,378 --> 00:14:41,915 Sir Douglas, Sir Johnny, Sir Frank. 323 00:14:43,250 --> 00:14:46,954 [Frank] "And if you can," he goes, Doug, if you can, 324 00:14:47,054 --> 00:14:49,289 throw an English accent in," 325 00:14:49,389 --> 00:14:52,559 and, you know, Doug is very good with theatrics. 326 00:14:52,993 --> 00:14:55,695 - We went to Houston and we made $25 each 327 00:14:55,795 --> 00:14:58,165 and we cut the whole first album. 328 00:14:58,265 --> 00:15:00,067 [Huey] So I told 'em to keep my name off the record. 329 00:15:00,167 --> 00:15:02,269 "Don't put shit on it, we ain't gonna tell nobody 330 00:15:02,369 --> 00:15:05,172 "where this come from, and let's see if it works." 331 00:15:05,272 --> 00:15:06,873 - That was a real hush, hush thing, 332 00:15:06,974 --> 00:15:09,977 and I couldn't believe how it took off. 333 00:15:10,077 --> 00:15:11,744 - * Hullabaloo 334 00:15:11,844 --> 00:15:14,014 [Announcer] Tonight on Hullabaloo , 335 00:15:14,114 --> 00:15:17,684 Chuck Berry, [applause] 336 00:15:17,784 --> 00:15:20,653 Martha and the Vandellas, [applause] 337 00:15:20,753 --> 00:15:23,290 The Sir Douglas Quintet. [applause] 338 00:15:23,390 --> 00:15:25,592 [Frank] At this point, rumors were that it was 339 00:15:25,692 --> 00:15:26,926 an English group. 340 00:15:27,027 --> 00:15:29,029 Huey tells us just before we go into the auditorium, 341 00:15:29,129 --> 00:15:31,031 he says, "Listen, you guys, 342 00:15:31,131 --> 00:15:33,600 just keep your mouths shut, okay?" 343 00:15:33,700 --> 00:15:36,336 - * Hullabaloo 344 00:15:36,436 --> 00:15:39,406 - Tonight, we have a chance to introduce royalty. 345 00:15:39,506 --> 00:15:41,774 [regal music] 346 00:15:42,209 --> 00:15:44,444 Ladies and gentlemen, lords and ladies, 347 00:15:44,544 --> 00:15:47,914 Hullabaloo proudly presents The Sir Douglas Quintet! 348 00:15:48,015 --> 00:15:53,020 [applause] 349 00:15:53,120 --> 00:16:03,096 [music "She's About a Mover"] 350 00:16:03,196 --> 00:16:06,599 * Well she was a-walkin' down the street * 351 00:16:07,434 --> 00:16:10,570 * Lookin' fine as she could be 352 00:16:11,571 --> 00:16:13,540 * Hey hey 353 00:16:14,141 --> 00:16:17,144 * Well she was walkin' down the street * 354 00:16:17,544 --> 00:16:19,946 - Huey said, "Y'all gotta talk English." 355 00:16:20,047 --> 00:16:21,681 I remember JP saying, "Hey, vato, man, 356 00:16:21,781 --> 00:16:25,252 I'm talking the best English I can right now you know." 357 00:16:26,819 --> 00:16:28,588 - * What I say 358 00:16:29,256 --> 00:16:31,191 * She's about a mover 359 00:16:31,691 --> 00:16:33,593 - Then he had this guy, and he came and sat down, 360 00:16:33,693 --> 00:16:36,129 he smoked a cigar, and he'd take his coat 361 00:16:36,229 --> 00:16:38,631 and put it like this, he had a .45 here, 362 00:16:38,731 --> 00:16:41,000 and he grabbed me and Doug by the hair and he said, 363 00:16:41,101 --> 00:16:42,969 "I want you little bastards to shake your hair 364 00:16:43,070 --> 00:16:45,172 "when you go out on stage tonight, you hear me? 365 00:16:45,272 --> 00:16:47,574 I'm gonna pull your hair out if you don't shake your hair." 366 00:16:55,348 --> 00:16:57,050 I had a crick in my neck for two days 367 00:16:57,150 --> 00:16:59,186 from shaking my hair so much, 368 00:16:59,286 --> 00:17:02,522 but he said, "You shook your hair boy, that's good." 369 00:17:04,091 --> 00:17:05,558 - * Hey hey 370 00:17:05,658 --> 00:17:07,060 [Johnny] I mean, visually, it was obvious 371 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,429 that it wasn't an English group unless, you know, 372 00:17:09,529 --> 00:17:12,565 we were from the west side of England, you know, 373 00:17:12,665 --> 00:17:16,536 from India, Indian maybe, I'm maybe an Indian. 374 00:17:17,437 --> 00:17:20,573 - * Well you know I love you baby * 375 00:17:21,208 --> 00:17:24,111 * Whoa yeah what I say 376 00:17:24,211 --> 00:17:26,379 - Trini Lopez was there, you know, 377 00:17:26,479 --> 00:17:28,948 and I hadn't met Trini Lopez before, 378 00:17:29,048 --> 00:17:30,283 and he does like that, he says, 379 00:17:30,383 --> 00:17:33,019 "Don't tell me," he says, "Huey," he says, 380 00:17:33,120 --> 00:17:35,455 "Don't tell me you Doug," you know? 381 00:17:35,555 --> 00:17:39,726 "I can't believe this, you've got to let me tell the world 382 00:17:39,826 --> 00:17:41,027 tonight where they're from." 383 00:17:41,128 --> 00:17:43,530 I said, "It's all right with me man," you know? 384 00:17:43,630 --> 00:17:45,432 [cheering] 385 00:17:45,532 --> 00:17:47,033 - I suppose all you people assume 386 00:17:47,134 --> 00:17:50,036 that the Sir Douglas Quintet is from England, 387 00:17:50,137 --> 00:17:51,438 but I have a surprise for you, 388 00:17:51,538 --> 00:17:52,939 believe it or not, these fellas 389 00:17:53,039 --> 00:17:55,308 are all from my home state of Texas. 390 00:17:56,042 --> 00:17:57,544 Isn't that amazing? 391 00:17:59,246 --> 00:18:01,114 I bet we have fooled many. 392 00:18:01,214 --> 00:18:03,583 Anyway, we'll be right back with Vikki Carr 393 00:18:03,683 --> 00:18:07,287 and Herman's Hermits, so come back, you know? 394 00:18:09,222 --> 00:18:10,723 - I'll never forget Doug called me, he said, 395 00:18:10,823 --> 00:18:11,691 "Huey just called and said, 396 00:18:11,791 --> 00:18:13,960 "'Man, y'all got a hit around the country, 397 00:18:14,060 --> 00:18:17,397 and y'all never gonna have to worry about working again.'" 398 00:18:17,797 --> 00:18:19,699 [Shawn] I think the Huey philosophy was 399 00:18:19,799 --> 00:18:22,135 you have your hit and you sell it, you know, 400 00:18:22,235 --> 00:18:24,337 and you sell it like you ain't ever sold it before. 401 00:18:24,437 --> 00:18:29,942 - * Well her eyes are brown and her hair is black * 402 00:18:30,577 --> 00:18:33,112 * And who ever stole my baby * 403 00:18:33,213 --> 00:18:34,947 * You'd better hurry and bring her back * 404 00:18:35,047 --> 00:18:37,384 * 'Cause I'm the tracker 405 00:18:37,484 --> 00:18:39,319 - Doug and Augie decided they wanted 406 00:18:39,419 --> 00:18:41,654 to take the families on the road. 407 00:18:41,754 --> 00:18:45,192 Huey would not allow 'em to be known to be married 408 00:18:45,292 --> 00:18:48,161 and have kids and all that stuff. 409 00:18:48,261 --> 00:18:49,862 [Joe] Did he make them take their rings off? 410 00:18:49,962 --> 00:18:52,365 - Yes, yes he did. 411 00:18:52,465 --> 00:18:54,501 - The music business is not that sugar coated, 412 00:18:54,601 --> 00:18:58,205 not that pretty, I mean, this is the reality of it. 413 00:18:58,305 --> 00:19:01,474 - We'd call Huey and say, "Huey, Huey, we need money." 414 00:19:01,574 --> 00:19:02,942 He said, "I'm saving it for you, buddy, 415 00:19:03,042 --> 00:19:04,244 till you come back." 416 00:19:04,344 --> 00:19:06,479 Huey said, "Didn't I buy you some shoes the other day? 417 00:19:06,579 --> 00:19:07,414 "Thom McAn? 418 00:19:07,514 --> 00:19:09,449 "Yeah you did, but they were only $6," 419 00:19:09,549 --> 00:19:10,583 but he said, "Well, I bought 'em, 420 00:19:10,683 --> 00:19:12,185 and I threw that party for y'all." 421 00:19:12,285 --> 00:19:14,254 "Yeah, but you just gave us donuts and coffee 422 00:19:14,354 --> 00:19:16,356 with a party and a bottle of whiskey." 423 00:19:16,456 --> 00:19:18,925 - These guys had to learn the hard way, 424 00:19:19,025 --> 00:19:20,493 get screwed over, do all this stuff. 425 00:19:20,593 --> 00:19:22,895 They were kind of making the rule book. 426 00:19:22,995 --> 00:19:24,163 [Joe] So, what was it? 427 00:19:24,264 --> 00:19:26,165 I mean, you couldn't have said this guy, you know, 428 00:19:26,266 --> 00:19:27,300 was bleeding us dry. 429 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,001 - Yeah, but he got us out of San Antonio. 430 00:19:29,101 --> 00:19:31,271 - * 'Cause I'm a tracker 431 00:19:32,605 --> 00:19:36,209 * Honey I'm on your trail 432 00:19:36,876 --> 00:19:37,977 * Yes I am 433 00:19:38,077 --> 00:19:39,312 [TV Interviewer] Any young folk singers 434 00:19:39,412 --> 00:19:41,581 or rough roots that you would recommend for us to hear? 435 00:19:41,681 --> 00:19:45,452 - Oh yeah, the Sir Douglas Quintet, 436 00:19:45,552 --> 00:19:47,354 I think they're probably the best. 437 00:19:47,454 --> 00:19:48,788 - Dylan used to put in magazines, 438 00:19:48,888 --> 00:19:51,224 "Sir Douglas Quintet's my favorite band," 439 00:19:51,324 --> 00:19:53,493 you know, so then we started hanging out with him, 440 00:19:53,593 --> 00:19:55,828 and then we'd get in a limousine with Bob, 441 00:19:55,928 --> 00:19:57,264 and we'd stop at a fruit stand 442 00:19:57,364 --> 00:20:00,300 and get a big old bag of apples. 443 00:20:02,001 --> 00:20:05,104 Everybody's high as a kite going around in that limousine 444 00:20:05,204 --> 00:20:06,673 eating apples. 445 00:20:06,939 --> 00:20:08,140 - We were following 'em 446 00:20:08,241 --> 00:20:09,976 and one of their suitcases fell off 447 00:20:10,076 --> 00:20:11,511 and it was full of diapers, 448 00:20:11,611 --> 00:20:14,213 diapers all over the highway, 449 00:20:14,314 --> 00:20:16,783 and Doug out there picking 'em all up. 450 00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:18,985 [Augie] Doug called Huey one time and said, 451 00:20:19,085 --> 00:20:20,420 "Huey, we're out of shit." 452 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:21,954 Called back in about an hour later, he said, 453 00:20:22,054 --> 00:20:23,189 "There's a plane coming in 454 00:20:23,290 --> 00:20:25,392 bringing us half a pound of weed." 455 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:29,195 - They were rock-n-roll stars. [laughing] 456 00:20:29,929 --> 00:20:33,900 - I believe it was a personal conflict with my dad. 457 00:20:36,936 --> 00:20:39,306 He would play the game up to a certain point. 458 00:20:39,406 --> 00:20:42,008 If it became all about people dictating, 459 00:20:42,108 --> 00:20:43,543 he couldn't handle it. 460 00:20:43,976 --> 00:20:46,446 - But I mean, this is what Huey used to do, 461 00:20:46,546 --> 00:20:47,647 and then he'd say, "Y'all going to 462 00:20:47,747 --> 00:20:51,050 "Atlanta, Georgia next week, y'all gonna fly there, 463 00:20:51,150 --> 00:20:53,185 and y'all gonna do a 30-minute show." 464 00:20:53,286 --> 00:20:54,454 "Okay, how much we making?" 465 00:20:54,554 --> 00:20:55,722 "Nothing, but y'all and have a number one record 466 00:20:55,822 --> 00:20:57,557 at the end of the week," and that was it, 467 00:20:57,657 --> 00:20:59,559 we did that around the country. 468 00:21:00,627 --> 00:21:02,395 [Doug] 65 was really a kick, you know. 469 00:21:02,495 --> 00:21:05,131 We were going all through the country playing gigs with, 470 00:21:05,231 --> 00:21:07,334 you know, Beach Boys, and Lovin' Spoonful, 471 00:21:07,434 --> 00:21:10,803 and you know, it was a real heavy era. 472 00:21:11,438 --> 00:21:14,541 [Joe] What killed the Quintet? 473 00:21:14,641 --> 00:21:16,443 - Corpus Christi in a bust. 474 00:21:16,543 --> 00:21:19,312 We got busted in Corpus Christi, 475 00:21:19,412 --> 00:21:22,248 you know, for a few joints. 476 00:21:22,649 --> 00:21:23,583 - We were sitting there-- 477 00:21:23,683 --> 00:21:24,917 I didn't know what was happening-- 478 00:21:25,017 --> 00:21:27,354 I was so innocent. 479 00:21:27,454 --> 00:21:29,889 And I learned about everything then, 480 00:21:29,989 --> 00:21:32,024 at that time. 481 00:21:32,124 --> 00:21:34,561 - All of a sudden, I feel this cold thing on my head, 482 00:21:34,661 --> 00:21:37,564 he said, "Take your hands, put 'em on the wheel, 483 00:21:37,664 --> 00:21:39,766 "cut your car off, put it in gear." 484 00:21:39,866 --> 00:21:41,401 And I turned, he said, "Don't turn around," 485 00:21:41,501 --> 00:21:43,202 and then pushed the rifle in my head. 486 00:21:43,302 --> 00:21:44,904 - I was scared to death. 487 00:21:45,905 --> 00:21:49,141 - * It's the beginning of the end * 488 00:21:49,241 --> 00:21:50,610 [Carol] They took all the guys, 489 00:21:50,710 --> 00:21:53,746 they handcuffed 'em and threw 'em in jail. 490 00:21:59,486 --> 00:22:02,889 - We were facing seven to 10 years in the penitentiary. 491 00:22:03,523 --> 00:22:05,958 - My father was embarrassed to go to work. 492 00:22:06,058 --> 00:22:08,461 Hell, he made front page of the damn paper, 493 00:22:08,561 --> 00:22:11,431 you know, I mean that's not who we are. 494 00:22:12,765 --> 00:22:15,301 - Reception was pretty serious, you know. 495 00:22:15,402 --> 00:22:18,571 I think Ricci Ware broke the Quintet's records 496 00:22:18,671 --> 00:22:20,807 or something like that on air 497 00:22:20,907 --> 00:22:25,378 because they were dope fiends and all that kind of stuff. 498 00:22:27,747 --> 00:22:32,519 - Back then, yeah, I guess Dad was a little too 499 00:22:32,619 --> 00:22:34,554 easy with it or too lax with it. 500 00:22:34,654 --> 00:22:38,458 - In Doug's mind, there were all these evil entities out there 501 00:22:38,558 --> 00:22:41,794 trying to mess with the groove. 502 00:22:41,894 --> 00:22:44,664 [Doug] If Texas laws could ever loosen up, that'd be great. 503 00:22:44,764 --> 00:22:46,098 They'll get you, you know? 504 00:22:46,198 --> 00:22:48,401 You call me this, and I say so and so is getting high, 505 00:22:48,501 --> 00:22:49,802 so and so, and they'll bust you. 506 00:22:49,902 --> 00:22:51,904 Well, imagine calling San Francisco and saying, 507 00:22:52,004 --> 00:22:53,172 "Hey, so and so," 508 00:22:53,272 --> 00:22:55,608 they're gonna laugh at you. 509 00:22:57,710 --> 00:23:01,948 - * We're going to break each other's heart * 510 00:23:04,751 --> 00:23:08,020 - My parents mortgaged their little house 511 00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:10,256 for every penny that they had 512 00:23:10,356 --> 00:23:12,459 to keep him out of the jail. 513 00:23:13,092 --> 00:23:14,927 He went on probation, and after that, 514 00:23:15,027 --> 00:23:17,229 he moved to California. 515 00:23:17,329 --> 00:23:19,766 - Doug moved to 'Frisco, and that hurt me, 516 00:23:19,866 --> 00:23:23,836 but in a sense, it motivated me too. 517 00:23:23,936 --> 00:23:27,640 And then, here he said, "We've got gigs in Canada. 518 00:23:27,740 --> 00:23:32,144 Augie, can you put a quintet band together?" 519 00:23:32,244 --> 00:23:34,046 And I said, "Yeah." 520 00:23:35,381 --> 00:23:36,816 I remember the promoter in Canada said, 521 00:23:36,916 --> 00:23:38,751 they looked at our quintet picture and they said, 522 00:23:38,851 --> 00:23:42,054 "Now this guy's here, and you're here, 523 00:23:42,154 --> 00:23:43,523 but these guys ain't." 524 00:23:43,623 --> 00:23:45,892 I said, "Oh, they didn't want to travel no more. 525 00:23:45,992 --> 00:23:47,293 They quit playing." 526 00:23:48,060 --> 00:23:50,663 [Doug] Texas was going through a very heavy change 527 00:23:50,763 --> 00:23:52,431 with young people 'cause they all wanted to be hippies, 528 00:23:52,532 --> 00:23:53,766 they all wanted to go to California, 529 00:23:53,866 --> 00:23:56,402 and I was caught up in that wave just like Johnny Winter was, 530 00:23:56,503 --> 00:23:58,838 and Janis Joplin, and it was just a whole period 531 00:23:58,938 --> 00:24:02,008 that'll never be repeated in the history of the world. 532 00:24:02,441 --> 00:24:12,719 [psychedelic music] 533 00:24:12,819 --> 00:24:14,621 - The thing that makes this, what they call the 534 00:24:14,721 --> 00:24:16,756 San Francisco music scene, as far as I'm concerned 535 00:24:16,856 --> 00:24:19,458 is like, first of all, the freedom to create here. 536 00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:20,927 For some reason, like, a lot of musicians 537 00:24:21,027 --> 00:24:23,963 ended up here, so they came up with their own kind of music. 538 00:24:24,063 --> 00:24:30,269 [psychedelic music] 539 00:24:30,369 --> 00:24:32,639 - He liked what he saw when he came to San Francisco. 540 00:24:32,739 --> 00:24:35,307 He would come here to record and come here to play and stuff, 541 00:24:35,407 --> 00:24:37,076 but he kept his stuff separated. 542 00:24:37,176 --> 00:24:38,978 He was one of those guys. 543 00:24:39,078 --> 00:24:40,880 - When we first moved out there, like I said, 544 00:24:40,980 --> 00:24:44,283 he was dealing with the fact that he might go to jail. 545 00:24:44,383 --> 00:24:47,219 He was kind of minding his Ps and Qs for a little bit. 546 00:24:48,588 --> 00:24:50,523 [Doug] I was living down in Salinas, California, 547 00:24:50,623 --> 00:24:52,825 and you can't even ask how you capture the feeling 548 00:24:52,925 --> 00:24:54,393 or something it just happened, I mean, 549 00:24:54,493 --> 00:24:57,830 it was kinda in the air I guess, you know? 550 00:24:58,631 --> 00:25:01,400 - To this day, when I smell eucalyptus, 551 00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:03,970 I'm in Salinas, California. 552 00:25:04,303 --> 00:25:07,406 We had acres out in the back. 553 00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:10,109 We lived on top of a hill. 554 00:25:10,209 --> 00:25:11,944 We loved it. 555 00:25:13,345 --> 00:25:17,149 - * In the Monterey Sun 556 00:25:17,884 --> 00:25:20,252 [Dawn] God, I can still see Dad now. 557 00:25:20,352 --> 00:25:23,723 - * My work will be done 558 00:25:26,626 --> 00:25:29,796 * I raise my kids 559 00:25:32,164 --> 00:25:35,367 * In the Monterey Sun 560 00:25:35,467 --> 00:25:37,737 * All six of 'em that's a lot 561 00:25:38,671 --> 00:25:40,940 * The moon is here 562 00:25:43,309 --> 00:25:45,612 [Dan] He never stopped talking about California 563 00:25:45,712 --> 00:25:49,548 and the family and the stories, ever. 564 00:25:50,316 --> 00:25:51,651 [Joe] So Dan taught leading 565 00:25:51,751 --> 00:25:54,186 a conventional life like your other friends-- 566 00:25:54,286 --> 00:25:55,187 - No. - And their dads. 567 00:25:55,287 --> 00:25:56,923 - It's very different. - I mean, you got that out 568 00:25:57,023 --> 00:25:58,290 early on. - Yeah, oh yeah yeah, 569 00:25:58,390 --> 00:25:59,859 very different. 570 00:25:59,959 --> 00:26:02,962 [Shawn] Mom was the glue that kept it all together. 571 00:26:03,062 --> 00:26:06,666 [Dawn] Dad would come home not looking very good. 572 00:26:06,766 --> 00:26:09,001 Mom would have to get him back up. 573 00:26:09,101 --> 00:26:11,503 - Mom used to wake up in the night 574 00:26:11,604 --> 00:26:13,139 and have one of Dad's musician friends 575 00:26:13,239 --> 00:26:15,975 eating Cheerios with Cheerios in his beard. 576 00:26:16,075 --> 00:26:20,212 - [slurping] And oh man, Dad was going, Dad was like, 577 00:26:20,312 --> 00:26:22,949 "Momma, it's okay, he's just been on an acid trip, man. 578 00:26:23,049 --> 00:26:24,516 "Just let him eat, man, he's just hungry," 579 00:26:24,617 --> 00:26:26,385 and oh, my mom got the shotgun, 580 00:26:26,485 --> 00:26:28,788 oh my God, "Douglas, I'll shoot him, 581 00:26:28,888 --> 00:26:30,122 you get him out of here." 582 00:26:30,222 --> 00:26:31,991 - It was so freaky, you know, living 'round Dad, 583 00:26:32,091 --> 00:26:35,828 especially from 67, 68, 69 era, 584 00:26:35,928 --> 00:26:37,997 where things were just blown wide open. 585 00:26:38,097 --> 00:26:40,733 - 'Cause I think then, you know, LSD was still new, 586 00:26:40,833 --> 00:26:43,670 and he had this strange band with Wayne Talbot on piano. 587 00:26:43,770 --> 00:26:47,073 He hit this groove that just was magic, 588 00:26:47,173 --> 00:26:48,207 total magic. 589 00:26:49,108 --> 00:26:55,648 [music "Can You Dig My Vibrations"] 590 00:26:55,748 --> 00:27:00,720 * Can you dig my vibrations 591 00:27:02,789 --> 00:27:07,226 * To march in session with your soul * 592 00:27:10,930 --> 00:27:14,633 * And it's on now yeah 593 00:27:17,103 --> 00:27:20,606 - It was a time when Doug was just opening up 594 00:27:20,707 --> 00:27:22,975 and he had just this monumental mountain 595 00:27:23,075 --> 00:27:25,611 of creativity came out of him. 596 00:27:25,712 --> 00:27:26,979 [Bill] You know, he had a big band, 597 00:27:27,079 --> 00:27:29,615 horns and he had George Rains, the most phenomenal drummer 598 00:27:29,716 --> 00:27:31,017 I'd ever heard on a record. 599 00:27:31,117 --> 00:27:32,952 - I think he wrote everything on there, 600 00:27:33,052 --> 00:27:34,353 and arranged everything, I mean, 601 00:27:34,453 --> 00:27:36,856 he already had it all in his head. 602 00:27:36,956 --> 00:27:38,490 - He'd walk in there and say, "All right, let's go," 603 00:27:38,590 --> 00:27:39,826 [garbled speech] 604 00:27:39,926 --> 00:27:41,327 and he'd be talking to 10 people at the same time 605 00:27:41,427 --> 00:27:43,329 and all of a sudden, bam, "All right, roll the tape." 606 00:27:44,831 --> 00:27:47,900 - * In your soul now 607 00:27:49,902 --> 00:27:51,437 - To put horns into the mix, 608 00:27:51,537 --> 00:27:55,307 that was kind of a turning point in the San Francisco recording. 609 00:27:55,407 --> 00:27:56,809 Prior to that, I mean, 610 00:27:56,909 --> 00:27:59,946 the sort of San Francisco psychedelic music world 611 00:28:00,046 --> 00:28:04,751 was screeching guitars and thumping basses so to speak. 612 00:28:04,851 --> 00:28:07,019 - It's just unlike anything ever made before. 613 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,788 I really felt like he was on to something 614 00:28:08,888 --> 00:28:11,457 that no other rock and roll guy was. 615 00:28:12,859 --> 00:28:14,593 Doug was about freedom. 616 00:28:15,127 --> 00:28:17,864 You know, he wanted to be free of almost all constraints. 617 00:28:19,899 --> 00:28:21,167 [Doug] I've just kinda been able to do 618 00:28:21,267 --> 00:28:22,802 the music business in my own way, you know. 619 00:28:22,902 --> 00:28:25,772 I mean, I can't say I haven't had to take orders 620 00:28:25,872 --> 00:28:27,807 at certain times, but even though 621 00:28:27,907 --> 00:28:29,776 there might have been people, you know, 622 00:28:29,876 --> 00:28:32,111 sold a lot more records or whatever, 623 00:28:32,211 --> 00:28:34,981 I think it's just how much you really love the music. 624 00:28:35,081 --> 00:28:37,083 - He had so many ideas. 625 00:28:39,351 --> 00:28:41,453 Sometimes he didn't know when to quit. 626 00:28:43,689 --> 00:28:44,924 You know, that was the thing with Doug, 627 00:28:45,024 --> 00:28:46,658 his stuff would just run out of gas, 628 00:28:46,759 --> 00:28:49,161 because he had no infrastructure, 629 00:28:49,261 --> 00:28:52,598 he had no manager, he had no road manager. 630 00:28:52,698 --> 00:28:56,502 His road manager was the guy who carried the weed for him. 631 00:28:57,870 --> 00:28:59,405 [Doug] Okay man, we say it, the gig's over, 632 00:28:59,505 --> 00:29:00,739 let's go home, man. 633 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,608 [Man] Oh, as I say, let's do it. 634 00:29:02,708 --> 00:29:04,410 Pack it up. 635 00:29:06,813 --> 00:29:08,114 [Doug] Let's do this, man. 636 00:29:08,214 --> 00:29:10,549 [drums crashing] 637 00:29:10,850 --> 00:29:12,785 [laughter] 638 00:29:15,922 --> 00:29:18,925 [Augie] Financially, he was a disaster. 639 00:29:19,025 --> 00:29:20,626 [Dan] I think he realized 640 00:29:20,726 --> 00:29:23,462 he needed the Augie sound to have a hit... 641 00:29:26,232 --> 00:29:29,035 because the Augie organ is what people remember 642 00:29:29,135 --> 00:29:32,071 about the early Sir Douglas Quintet hits. 643 00:29:36,008 --> 00:29:38,945 - I wanted Augie to do his own thing, 644 00:29:39,045 --> 00:29:41,713 that's why I called Doug the other woman, 645 00:29:41,814 --> 00:29:43,916 because he was always 646 00:29:44,016 --> 00:29:46,185 pulling Augie away. 647 00:29:46,285 --> 00:29:48,754 [Joe] It was sometimes a difficult relationship 648 00:29:48,855 --> 00:29:49,721 to maintain. 649 00:29:49,822 --> 00:29:53,059 - It was just something that-- 650 00:29:53,159 --> 00:29:55,061 I liked what he did and he liked what I did, 651 00:29:55,161 --> 00:29:56,829 you know, it's always, there was a love there, 652 00:29:56,929 --> 00:29:59,698 you know that, you know? 653 00:29:59,798 --> 00:30:00,833 - He loved him like a brother, 654 00:30:00,933 --> 00:30:02,101 but he didn't like, go and like, 655 00:30:02,201 --> 00:30:03,102 "Oh, I have to have Augie." 656 00:30:03,202 --> 00:30:04,603 - When you get a little older, 657 00:30:04,703 --> 00:30:08,774 you kinda have to play the game a little bit, you know? 658 00:30:08,875 --> 00:30:10,943 Pay what I call the "groove tax". 659 00:30:11,043 --> 00:30:13,112 - Basically, he could make a lot more money 660 00:30:13,212 --> 00:30:15,547 doing the Quintet thing, you know. 661 00:30:17,583 --> 00:30:20,987 * My home in Chinatown 662 00:30:21,087 --> 00:30:22,989 [Augie] He called me, he said, "Man you gotta come up here, 663 00:30:23,089 --> 00:30:25,892 I got some tunes, let's cut," and I said, "Okay." 664 00:30:25,992 --> 00:30:28,260 Moved my family, packed up, put a trailer, 665 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,362 moved out to LA. 666 00:30:30,462 --> 00:30:32,965 - Get a call from Augie, you know, that we, 667 00:30:33,065 --> 00:30:35,634 we need a bass player. 668 00:30:35,734 --> 00:30:37,636 Augie picked me up at the airport, 669 00:30:37,736 --> 00:30:39,171 and they gave me a joint, 670 00:30:39,271 --> 00:30:40,739 and everything was cool, you know. 671 00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:44,443 - At some point when he got into the whole California lifestyle, 672 00:30:44,543 --> 00:30:46,178 you know, it turned full on, 673 00:30:46,278 --> 00:30:48,580 and he became friends with Garcia 674 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,116 and all those kind of guys. 675 00:30:50,216 --> 00:30:53,185 - And I remember one of the guys in the Grateful Dead 676 00:30:53,285 --> 00:30:55,121 handed me a beer, an open beer, 677 00:30:55,221 --> 00:30:57,689 and Augie took my hand, he pushed it away, 678 00:30:57,789 --> 00:30:59,892 he said, in my ear, he said, 679 00:30:59,992 --> 00:31:02,194 "Don't ever take an open can from anybody 680 00:31:02,294 --> 00:31:04,596 "because it probably has acid in it." 681 00:31:05,564 --> 00:31:12,371 [soul music] 682 00:31:12,471 --> 00:31:13,839 - You had the group together for a while 683 00:31:13,940 --> 00:31:15,074 and you were in the top 40, 684 00:31:15,174 --> 00:31:17,609 and then you kind of dropped from sight. 685 00:31:17,709 --> 00:31:18,710 - Yeah, it took a while. 686 00:31:18,810 --> 00:31:20,312 - What, the group broke up, or? 687 00:31:20,412 --> 00:31:21,981 - Well, we just moved up from Texas, 688 00:31:22,081 --> 00:31:24,583 we got arrested in Texas and we went to San Francisco 689 00:31:24,683 --> 00:31:27,119 and it just takes a little time to get together. 690 00:31:27,219 --> 00:31:28,620 - You got the original group back together again, 691 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,290 I wonder if tonight we could get you to do a number for us? 692 00:31:31,390 --> 00:31:32,458 - Sure. 693 00:31:32,558 --> 00:31:34,793 You don't have to wait, we'll do it right now. 694 00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:38,764 [applause] 695 00:31:38,864 --> 00:31:42,834 [music "Mendocino"] 696 00:31:42,935 --> 00:31:44,370 Sir Douglas Quintet is back, 697 00:31:44,470 --> 00:31:46,772 we'd like to thank all you beautiful people out there 698 00:31:46,872 --> 00:31:48,674 for all the beautiful vibrations. 699 00:31:48,774 --> 00:31:50,276 We love you. 700 00:31:52,778 --> 00:31:54,546 * Teeny bopper 701 00:31:56,148 --> 00:31:58,150 * My teenage lover 702 00:31:59,818 --> 00:32:01,887 * I caught your waves last night * 703 00:32:01,988 --> 00:32:04,390 * It sent my mind a-wonderin' 704 00:32:06,959 --> 00:32:10,329 * You're such a groove please don't move * 705 00:32:10,429 --> 00:32:15,034 * Please stay in my love house by the river * 706 00:32:15,901 --> 00:32:16,868 - People went crazy. 707 00:32:16,969 --> 00:32:18,237 There'd be a hundred people lined up 708 00:32:18,337 --> 00:32:21,240 just to get a photograph, picture from the DJ. 709 00:32:21,340 --> 00:32:23,375 - I heard that until I wanted to pull my hair out. 710 00:32:23,475 --> 00:32:26,112 Every time you turned on the radio, it was on. 711 00:32:26,212 --> 00:32:27,313 [Doug] Well, you know, we were pretty lucky 712 00:32:27,413 --> 00:32:28,981 to be able to come in and out with hits, 713 00:32:29,081 --> 00:32:31,283 you know, we had a hit in 65, 66, 714 00:32:31,383 --> 00:32:33,352 and nothing till 69, then we had 715 00:32:33,452 --> 00:32:35,687 the biggest hit in "Mendocino" we ever had. 716 00:32:35,787 --> 00:32:38,790 - * Mendocino Mendocino 717 00:32:38,890 --> 00:32:41,093 * Where life's such a groove 718 00:32:41,193 --> 00:32:43,795 * You blow your mind in the morning * 719 00:32:43,895 --> 00:32:48,167 - There was a secretary that worked for Mercury Records, 720 00:32:48,267 --> 00:32:51,737 and they went to Mendocino to take advantage 721 00:32:51,837 --> 00:32:54,106 of this bed and breakfast place. 722 00:32:54,206 --> 00:32:56,642 That was the inspiration for that song. 723 00:32:58,310 --> 00:33:01,313 - He wasn't very discreet about it at all. 724 00:33:01,413 --> 00:33:04,116 I think in his mind, he had his chick 725 00:33:04,216 --> 00:33:05,517 and the groove and the music scene here, 726 00:33:05,617 --> 00:33:07,686 he had his family here, "Man, I'm making money, 727 00:33:07,786 --> 00:33:11,557 I got hit records man, life is beautiful for Doug." 728 00:33:11,657 --> 00:33:15,394 - He'd always tried to get Violet to groove with him. 729 00:33:15,494 --> 00:33:17,196 "Forget about those kids, you know? 730 00:33:17,296 --> 00:33:19,098 "Come and groove with me, momma. 731 00:33:19,198 --> 00:33:21,033 You never groove with me anymore." 732 00:33:21,133 --> 00:33:22,101 [laughing] 733 00:33:22,201 --> 00:33:24,236 She got tired of him saying that, 734 00:33:24,336 --> 00:33:27,839 so she said, "Okay, I'm gonna forget about the kids, 735 00:33:27,939 --> 00:33:29,408 I'm gonna groove." 736 00:33:29,508 --> 00:33:33,679 She got high with him, started drinking a little bit, 737 00:33:33,779 --> 00:33:37,083 kids were crying and the diapers were stinking, 738 00:33:37,183 --> 00:33:40,452 and he finally said, "Okay, take care of those kids," 739 00:33:40,552 --> 00:33:42,621 you know, she taught him a lesson. 740 00:33:42,721 --> 00:33:44,956 She was tough. 741 00:33:45,057 --> 00:33:46,425 - I remember him picking up girls 742 00:33:46,525 --> 00:33:49,228 and paid Ashbury to, you know, go cruise around his Cadillac. 743 00:33:49,328 --> 00:33:50,796 He'd go, "You remember that?" 744 00:33:50,896 --> 00:33:52,698 And I would like, describe it. 745 00:33:52,798 --> 00:33:54,200 - Mom was tired of hippies. 746 00:33:54,300 --> 00:33:56,034 She was like, "I don't want to be around hippies anymore, 747 00:33:56,135 --> 00:33:59,171 I want a little more stable environment." 748 00:33:59,271 --> 00:34:01,407 - I mean, there's Mercedes Benz bills, 749 00:34:01,507 --> 00:34:03,275 and coming from other ladies, 750 00:34:03,375 --> 00:34:05,677 and oh Dad-- I wouldn't take that crap. 751 00:34:05,777 --> 00:34:10,782 - * Please stay here with me in Mendocino * 752 00:34:11,950 --> 00:34:15,821 - Like anybody, at some point, you have- you reach your limit. 753 00:34:19,091 --> 00:34:21,327 [Violet] Hello Douglas. 754 00:34:21,427 --> 00:34:23,995 One of these days, I'm not gonna be here 755 00:34:24,096 --> 00:34:25,997 for you to talk so ugly to, 756 00:34:26,098 --> 00:34:28,700 so you better change your way of life. 757 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,136 What I'm gonna do is 758 00:34:30,236 --> 00:34:34,740 I'm gonna find me a big old strong cowboy, 759 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,877 with big old strong arms 760 00:34:38,977 --> 00:34:41,847 that can hold me real tight, 761 00:34:41,947 --> 00:34:44,716 because that's what turns me on, 762 00:34:44,816 --> 00:34:47,853 not these long haired hippy rock and rollers, 763 00:34:47,953 --> 00:34:50,289 no guts about 'em at all, 764 00:34:50,389 --> 00:34:52,023 and they scream at their old ladies 765 00:34:52,124 --> 00:34:54,260 and they're so sweet to their chicks, 766 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,763 well that's bullshit with two Ts. 767 00:34:58,497 --> 00:34:59,598 [Shawn] She said, "I'm taking the kids, 768 00:34:59,698 --> 00:35:02,000 I'm moving, you can come, you can stay," 769 00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:03,669 'cause she knew Doug was gonna do what he wanted. 770 00:35:03,769 --> 00:35:07,439 [music "Texas Me"] 771 00:35:07,539 --> 00:35:09,441 He wasn't gonna lose the family and mom. 772 00:35:09,541 --> 00:35:13,312 - * Stranded outside of Houston * 773 00:35:14,346 --> 00:35:17,783 * Not a dime do I own 774 00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:21,119 * I used to go back 775 00:35:21,220 --> 00:35:23,755 * To beautiful woods 776 00:35:23,855 --> 00:35:27,393 * Back there in San Antone 777 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,897 * I wondered in San Francisco 778 00:35:32,964 --> 00:35:36,635 * Wonderin' where I ought to be * 779 00:35:38,136 --> 00:35:40,038 - The second we hit the state lines, 780 00:35:40,138 --> 00:35:43,175 he wanted a Big Red, and I remember 781 00:35:43,275 --> 00:35:46,345 running down the aisle of the convenience store going, 782 00:35:46,445 --> 00:35:47,479 "What are we doing, Dad?" 783 00:35:47,579 --> 00:35:49,047 He goes, "We're trying to find a Big Red," 784 00:35:49,147 --> 00:35:50,582 and we were pointing to a lot the red sodas, 785 00:35:50,682 --> 00:35:52,117 he'd go, "No, that's not it, that's not it. 786 00:35:52,218 --> 00:35:53,652 Here it is!" 787 00:35:53,752 --> 00:35:57,956 [country music] 788 00:35:58,056 --> 00:36:12,771 [accordion music] 789 00:36:12,871 --> 00:36:13,872 - He loved accordion. 790 00:36:13,972 --> 00:36:15,341 He used to go to my house and say, 791 00:36:15,441 --> 00:36:17,443 "Hey man, let's play." 792 00:36:17,543 --> 00:36:21,547 We had different ways because I was in conjunto, 793 00:36:21,647 --> 00:36:25,317 and he was in rock and roll or whatever, 794 00:36:25,417 --> 00:36:28,053 but still we were buddies, we were friends. 795 00:36:28,153 --> 00:36:35,294 [conjunto music] 796 00:36:35,394 --> 00:36:37,863 [Doug] This is why San Antonio's so soulful, you see? 797 00:36:37,963 --> 00:36:40,065 At night, you hear all the chop, chop, chop, 798 00:36:40,165 --> 00:36:42,301 all the best music. 799 00:36:43,302 --> 00:36:44,636 [Augie] Doug would go to this little place 800 00:36:44,736 --> 00:36:46,405 and drink beer and play the bajo and accordion, 801 00:36:46,505 --> 00:36:48,807 you know, hang out in the back yard. 802 00:36:48,907 --> 00:36:50,342 - It was just such a-- 803 00:36:50,442 --> 00:36:53,512 I mean, you know, just sitting watching him play. 804 00:36:53,612 --> 00:36:56,382 I mean, he was really getting down. 805 00:36:59,751 --> 00:37:02,421 He wanted to be a chicano, you know what I mean? 806 00:37:04,956 --> 00:37:07,092 [Shawn] When we moved from California to Texas, 807 00:37:07,192 --> 00:37:08,594 here's how different things were. 808 00:37:08,694 --> 00:37:10,296 Long haired guys with cowboy hats, 809 00:37:10,396 --> 00:37:11,630 rock and roll with accordion, 810 00:37:11,730 --> 00:37:14,032 back then, all those things were weird. 811 00:37:14,132 --> 00:37:17,369 My step brother, he would get his butt kicked all the time 812 00:37:17,469 --> 00:37:19,204 'cause he came back dressed like my dad, 813 00:37:19,305 --> 00:37:22,308 he had long hair and a cowboy hat, boots, 814 00:37:22,408 --> 00:37:23,442 they didn't like that, it's like, 815 00:37:23,542 --> 00:37:24,543 rednecks didn't like it, 816 00:37:24,643 --> 00:37:25,777 the long hairs didn't like it, 817 00:37:25,877 --> 00:37:28,113 it was like, "Hey, what are you," you know? 818 00:37:28,213 --> 00:37:30,181 - I was in San Francisco, 819 00:37:30,282 --> 00:37:33,285 and Doug wanted me to come record. 820 00:37:33,385 --> 00:37:35,487 They picked me up at the airport, 821 00:37:35,587 --> 00:37:38,457 so they go, "Okay, we gotta go eat some enchiladas." 822 00:37:39,625 --> 00:37:42,361 So we're in there eating food, drinking beer, 823 00:37:42,461 --> 00:37:45,497 laughing, talking, cop walks in. 824 00:37:45,597 --> 00:37:46,898 Walks over to Doug and goes, 825 00:37:46,998 --> 00:37:49,100 "Is that your car out there?" 826 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,337 Doug gets up, goes out with the cop. 827 00:37:51,437 --> 00:37:53,505 I look up through the glass, 828 00:37:53,605 --> 00:37:56,207 and this guy's like, got a hold of Doug 829 00:37:56,308 --> 00:37:58,710 and he's throwing him up against the car, 830 00:37:58,810 --> 00:38:02,748 grabs Doug by the hair, slams his face right into the car, 831 00:38:02,848 --> 00:38:04,450 and says, "Your eyes are bloodshot, you're drunk, 832 00:38:04,550 --> 00:38:06,452 so you're under arrest." 833 00:38:07,285 --> 00:38:10,656 - * If I had my way 834 00:38:11,289 --> 00:38:14,793 * I'd leave here today 835 00:38:15,327 --> 00:38:19,565 * And move in a hurry * 836 00:38:20,432 --> 00:38:23,502 - That was a weird time, because Mom and Dad 837 00:38:23,602 --> 00:38:26,905 were fighting different, you know what I mean? 838 00:38:27,005 --> 00:38:30,041 And you could tell it was starting to fall apart, man. 839 00:38:30,141 --> 00:38:31,176 Their marriage. 840 00:38:31,276 --> 00:38:35,914 * Though I could lose 841 00:38:38,350 --> 00:38:40,285 - Mom threw a bunch of glass at his feet. 842 00:38:40,386 --> 00:38:41,687 They were in the kitchen, my dad had 843 00:38:41,787 --> 00:38:44,523 absolutely, you know, no shoes on, 844 00:38:44,623 --> 00:38:46,291 "Momma, Momma," and Momma was like, 845 00:38:46,392 --> 00:38:48,427 "Don't you!" 846 00:38:50,128 --> 00:38:51,830 They divorced and it was over. 847 00:38:53,865 --> 00:38:57,135 - I don't think he kind of wanted to live in San Antonio, 848 00:38:57,235 --> 00:38:58,704 I think it was kind of weird for him. 849 00:38:58,804 --> 00:39:00,572 He was looking for that place, 850 00:39:00,672 --> 00:39:03,141 and like all his old places, he stumbled across Austin, 851 00:39:03,241 --> 00:39:04,976 and he was hooked. 852 00:39:05,076 --> 00:39:10,181 [horns music] 853 00:39:10,281 --> 00:39:12,451 [Doug] I love my hometown, but it's so heavy at times, 854 00:39:12,551 --> 00:39:15,854 and Austin's so nice and laid back. 855 00:39:15,954 --> 00:39:21,226 [horns music] 856 00:39:21,326 --> 00:39:22,828 [Bill] I think he really liked the freedom 857 00:39:22,928 --> 00:39:24,796 of being a solo man. 858 00:39:28,834 --> 00:39:30,001 [Doug] They've just got a better attitude 859 00:39:30,101 --> 00:39:31,437 toward long hair and lately, 860 00:39:31,537 --> 00:39:33,004 well, the old timers and people really realize 861 00:39:33,104 --> 00:39:34,906 how groovy it is. 862 00:39:35,006 --> 00:39:37,275 - He said, "Bentley, better than 'Frisco, man-- 863 00:39:37,375 --> 00:39:39,277 warmer, pretty women." 864 00:39:39,377 --> 00:39:43,014 - He moved in to the house above our business. 865 00:39:43,114 --> 00:39:45,651 It's the Soap Creek Saloon. 866 00:39:46,718 --> 00:39:49,488 It was down this little dirt road, 867 00:39:49,588 --> 00:39:52,558 and there was nothing for miles. 868 00:39:52,658 --> 00:39:54,560 - I was bartending out there. 869 00:39:54,660 --> 00:39:56,728 People would come in for the afternoon and have a beer 870 00:39:56,828 --> 00:39:58,263 and realize it was a couple of hippies, 871 00:39:58,363 --> 00:40:01,032 and they'd just leave, beer half full, 872 00:40:01,132 --> 00:40:03,268 didn't want to be associating with these people at all. 873 00:40:03,368 --> 00:40:04,770 [laughs] 874 00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:08,339 And then when this fella Doug Sahm came to town, 875 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,309 we didn't know what to really expect. 876 00:40:11,409 --> 00:40:13,311 Everybody on the bandstand, 877 00:40:13,411 --> 00:40:14,980 well it looked like he'd rounded them all up 878 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,715 at the bus stop. 879 00:40:16,815 --> 00:40:19,451 [Doug] Here's a thing we do the first part about-- 880 00:40:19,551 --> 00:40:21,853 program for all the people who love the Texas legend 881 00:40:21,953 --> 00:40:24,355 Mr. T-Bone Walker, we going down? 882 00:40:24,456 --> 00:40:26,291 [cheering] Yeah. 883 00:40:26,391 --> 00:40:31,963 [upbeat blues] 884 00:40:32,063 --> 00:40:34,365 - I went, "Way, this is gonna be good." 885 00:40:34,466 --> 00:40:36,602 - * Well come on little girl 886 00:40:36,902 --> 00:40:39,538 * Papa ain't salty no more * 887 00:40:41,072 --> 00:40:43,675 [Speedy] You could see where it was all getting mixed up, 888 00:40:43,775 --> 00:40:46,077 rhythm and blues, country and western, jazz, 889 00:40:46,177 --> 00:40:47,513 a bit of everything, you know? 890 00:40:47,613 --> 00:40:49,247 [Carlyne] The reach he had 891 00:40:49,347 --> 00:40:52,884 with all this music was incredible. 892 00:40:52,984 --> 00:41:02,861 [guitar solo] 893 00:41:02,961 --> 00:41:12,871 * 894 00:41:12,971 --> 00:41:20,011 * 895 00:41:20,111 --> 00:41:22,247 [Doug] Take a little time there, Augie, take a little time. 896 00:41:22,347 --> 00:41:25,784 [piano solo] 897 00:41:25,884 --> 00:41:28,787 - The deal with Doug was, he was never the same. 898 00:41:28,887 --> 00:41:31,489 It might be this amazing country act doing a song, 899 00:41:31,590 --> 00:41:34,125 followed by this amazing rhythm and blues. 900 00:41:34,225 --> 00:41:37,195 There might be horns, there might not be horns. 901 00:41:37,295 --> 00:41:38,664 - Everything was being broken down 902 00:41:38,764 --> 00:41:40,566 to a big musical education. 903 00:41:40,666 --> 00:41:42,133 You know, if you thought you knew it all, 904 00:41:42,233 --> 00:41:45,003 you'd start to realize you don't know nothing. 905 00:41:45,103 --> 00:41:47,673 [Carlyne] Doug was always focused on every aspect, 906 00:41:47,773 --> 00:41:49,975 as the perfect band leader would be, 907 00:41:50,075 --> 00:41:51,643 and you can see in his performances 908 00:41:51,743 --> 00:41:54,546 when he would turn around and start pumping 909 00:41:54,646 --> 00:41:57,783 in order to get them to rise to the occasion. 910 00:41:57,883 --> 00:41:59,517 [Doug] Come on, Jack, tickle that bass now, 911 00:41:59,618 --> 00:42:01,119 man, work that bass. 912 00:42:01,219 --> 00:42:13,098 [bass solo] 913 00:42:13,198 --> 00:42:15,634 [Louis] Doug wanted to see where he could push Jack Barber, 914 00:42:15,734 --> 00:42:17,569 and where he could push Speedy Sparks. 915 00:42:17,669 --> 00:42:19,004 They were really good, 916 00:42:19,104 --> 00:42:22,140 but it was with Doug who was pushing them to be better. 917 00:42:23,174 --> 00:42:26,177 - * Yeah, well, oooowww 918 00:42:26,277 --> 00:42:27,779 * Ewww 919 00:42:28,279 --> 00:42:30,015 Get it, man, get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, 920 00:42:30,115 --> 00:42:32,751 get it, get it, get it, get it, get it, woo! 921 00:42:34,385 --> 00:42:35,854 Get it, you crazy Pisces! 922 00:42:35,954 --> 00:42:37,222 Go ahead! 923 00:42:37,322 --> 00:42:38,356 - We could play a four-hour gig, 924 00:42:38,456 --> 00:42:40,626 he says, "Man, the gig's already over?" 925 00:42:40,726 --> 00:42:43,228 The time went like that, man, [laughter] 926 00:42:43,328 --> 00:42:45,964 'cause we knew that if we were gonna play with Doug, 927 00:42:46,064 --> 00:42:47,933 we were gonna be playing some shit, you know? 928 00:42:48,033 --> 00:42:49,668 And that was it, man, that's the groove. 929 00:42:49,768 --> 00:42:51,770 [Doug] Jack Barber, ladies and gentlemen. 930 00:42:51,870 --> 00:42:54,239 * Come home little girl 931 00:42:54,339 --> 00:42:57,609 * Yeah come home little girl 932 00:42:58,176 --> 00:43:00,578 - There was a certain sense at Soap Creek 933 00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:03,982 that everyone was important, 934 00:43:04,082 --> 00:43:06,885 that all of their music was important. 935 00:43:06,985 --> 00:43:09,220 - * Papa ain't salty no more 936 00:43:12,557 --> 00:43:17,028 [cheering and applause] 937 00:43:17,128 --> 00:43:20,666 - Soap Creek Saloon was a Sahm kid's daycare center, okay? 938 00:43:20,766 --> 00:43:22,567 San Antonio was the reality, 939 00:43:22,668 --> 00:43:24,803 it was school, it was Mom saying, 940 00:43:24,903 --> 00:43:26,104 "I've had enough of this hippy crap, 941 00:43:26,204 --> 00:43:27,673 "you get in the bathtub and you wake up 942 00:43:27,773 --> 00:43:28,874 and you go to school," 943 00:43:28,974 --> 00:43:31,943 and Austin was the music groove, and the, you know, 944 00:43:32,043 --> 00:43:33,611 the Barton Springs, and just full on. 945 00:43:33,712 --> 00:43:35,180 What kid wouldn't love that? 946 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,482 - There were cowboys and there were hippies, 947 00:43:37,582 --> 00:43:39,651 and it was so alive. 948 00:43:39,751 --> 00:43:42,053 And realized that for the first time ever, 949 00:43:42,153 --> 00:43:45,090 I feel I'm at home, like I'm supposed to be here. 950 00:43:45,190 --> 00:43:48,259 - I never met anybody, and I can say this true about Doug, 951 00:43:48,359 --> 00:43:51,562 I've never met anybody who had so many best friends, 952 00:43:51,663 --> 00:43:52,831 you know what I mean? 953 00:43:52,931 --> 00:43:55,533 Whether you're actually, Doug felt like you 954 00:43:55,633 --> 00:43:56,702 were his very best friend or not, 955 00:43:56,802 --> 00:43:58,269 you felt like you were. 956 00:43:58,369 --> 00:44:01,940 - He was quite capable of getting anyone to come in 957 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:07,278 and serve at his bequest, and we were always quite amazed. 958 00:44:07,378 --> 00:44:08,880 [Joe] Now you were there 959 00:44:08,980 --> 00:44:11,116 the night that Freddy Fender came to town. 960 00:44:11,216 --> 00:44:12,183 - Oh yeah. 961 00:44:12,283 --> 00:44:16,121 Freddy was like his kinda like idol in a way. 962 00:44:17,255 --> 00:44:18,890 [Doug] Now a song written by the great Freddy Fender. 963 00:44:18,990 --> 00:44:21,359 Freddy, this is for you, wherever you are. 964 00:44:21,693 --> 00:44:26,064 * Wasted days and wasted nights * 965 00:44:27,899 --> 00:44:30,769 [Doug] I first knew Freddy when I was in high school. 966 00:44:30,869 --> 00:44:32,370 We played his shows, little girls used to scream, 967 00:44:32,470 --> 00:44:35,040 "Ah, Freddie," you know, and he had the real bad thing, 968 00:44:35,140 --> 00:44:37,809 and he had to go out for a few years. 969 00:44:37,909 --> 00:44:40,779 - He had just gotten out of prison at Angola, 970 00:44:40,879 --> 00:44:42,948 so I tracked him down, he was going to 971 00:44:43,048 --> 00:44:45,784 social work school in Corpus Christi. 972 00:44:45,884 --> 00:44:47,685 He swore to me that he was not gonna play anymore, 973 00:44:47,786 --> 00:44:50,388 that he was gonna go by the rules... 974 00:44:51,823 --> 00:44:53,224 and I talked him into doing it, 975 00:44:53,324 --> 00:44:56,694 and I sent him money so he could ride the bus up. 976 00:44:57,595 --> 00:44:58,629 [Speedy] We started bringing him up 977 00:44:58,730 --> 00:45:01,332 to Austin to work gigs at Soap Creek. 978 00:45:01,432 --> 00:45:03,034 All these people were packed in this hall 979 00:45:03,134 --> 00:45:04,235 on Monday night to see him. 980 00:45:04,335 --> 00:45:05,937 He turned, he said, "Man, you made all these people 981 00:45:06,037 --> 00:45:08,073 "come out on Monday to see us, man." 982 00:45:08,173 --> 00:45:09,640 - I have never been treated better in my life 983 00:45:09,741 --> 00:45:11,442 by rednecks, man. 984 00:45:11,542 --> 00:45:13,779 Of course, I went through the same thing when I was a kid, 985 00:45:13,879 --> 00:45:16,547 I'd see a redneck and I'd throw a rock at him, you know? 986 00:45:16,647 --> 00:45:17,715 But things are different now, man, 987 00:45:17,816 --> 00:45:19,717 it seems like the whole world is finally getting 988 00:45:19,818 --> 00:45:22,187 the understanding of if you're good, you're good, 989 00:45:22,287 --> 00:45:24,990 regardless of what color you are, you know? 990 00:45:25,090 --> 00:45:26,758 [Speedy] I always knew Freddy had the star quality, 991 00:45:26,858 --> 00:45:28,326 and that's why I said, "Once he gets his chance, 992 00:45:28,426 --> 00:45:29,427 you'll know, world." 993 00:45:29,527 --> 00:45:31,863 [Freddy] I'd like to dedicate this song to my partner, 994 00:45:31,963 --> 00:45:35,300 soul partner, Mr. Doug Sahm from San Antonio. 995 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,868 Wherever you are, brother. 996 00:45:36,968 --> 00:45:40,505 * Wasted days and wasted nights * 997 00:45:41,639 --> 00:45:43,875 [Doug] So much great music came out of it, you know, 998 00:45:43,975 --> 00:45:46,845 and Soap Creek was cooking, and I had the record 999 00:45:46,945 --> 00:45:48,413 on how quick I could get to the club, 1000 00:45:48,513 --> 00:45:49,881 you know, I knew every bump. 1001 00:45:49,981 --> 00:45:59,457 [music "Be Real"] 1002 00:45:59,557 --> 00:46:01,559 * Be real 1003 00:46:02,060 --> 00:46:03,394 - One Sunday afternoon, 1004 00:46:03,494 --> 00:46:07,565 he was there with Johnny Winter and Willie Nelson. 1005 00:46:07,665 --> 00:46:09,500 And he said, "We ought to play tonight," 1006 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,569 and they all said, "Okay, let's go," 1007 00:46:11,669 --> 00:46:13,338 and one person went to the phone, 1008 00:46:13,438 --> 00:46:17,008 and within 45 minutes, that place was packed. 1009 00:46:17,108 --> 00:46:19,911 [laughter] And I don't know how it happened, 1010 00:46:20,011 --> 00:46:21,612 'cause only one person went to the telephone, 1011 00:46:21,712 --> 00:46:22,747 I was watching. 1012 00:46:22,848 --> 00:46:26,284 - * That's all I ask of you 1013 00:46:26,384 --> 00:46:27,785 [Augie] All of a sudden, Austin has everybody 1014 00:46:27,886 --> 00:46:29,054 living there and making this thing called 1015 00:46:29,154 --> 00:46:31,656 progressive country music. 1016 00:46:31,756 --> 00:46:33,024 It's so progressive country to me, 1017 00:46:33,124 --> 00:46:35,393 it's all that dark country I call it. 1018 00:46:36,727 --> 00:46:38,629 [Alvin] Everybody was going to hard rock, 1019 00:46:38,729 --> 00:46:40,966 funk to disco, and here's Austin, 1020 00:46:41,066 --> 00:46:43,001 going back to the 40s. 1021 00:46:43,835 --> 00:46:45,170 [Willie] I think the young people 1022 00:46:45,270 --> 00:46:48,639 are wanting to hear something that's American 1023 00:46:48,739 --> 00:46:52,377 and original, and country music is that. 1024 00:46:54,745 --> 00:46:58,917 - The country influence had become so prominent in Austin 1025 00:46:59,017 --> 00:47:01,920 that a gang of guys got together and started 1026 00:47:02,020 --> 00:47:07,125 an outlaw FM radio station called KOKE FM. 1027 00:47:07,558 --> 00:47:10,195 [Doug] This is Doug Sahm, and this is KOKE FM, 1028 00:47:10,295 --> 00:47:13,098 the only place you hear cosmic cowboys, 1029 00:47:13,198 --> 00:47:15,366 West Coast freaky cowboys, and of course, 1030 00:47:15,466 --> 00:47:17,635 our own Austin cowboys, 1031 00:47:17,735 --> 00:47:19,804 of which there are more all the time. 1032 00:47:19,905 --> 00:47:29,447 [progressive country music] 1033 00:47:29,547 --> 00:47:34,920 [Alvin] It was hippies making friends with the rednecks. 1034 00:47:36,454 --> 00:47:38,156 - They really realized they had more in common 1035 00:47:38,256 --> 00:47:39,457 than they had against each other. 1036 00:47:39,557 --> 00:47:42,894 They were all from Texas, and we all liked the same thing, 1037 00:47:42,994 --> 00:47:45,096 which was basically drink whiskey 1038 00:47:45,196 --> 00:47:48,299 and listen to these guys play country music. 1039 00:47:48,399 --> 00:47:52,537 - Austin became very, very hip-- it became important. 1040 00:47:52,637 --> 00:47:55,040 - We were a band that was kinda 1041 00:47:55,140 --> 00:47:58,977 basically trying to find roots Americana music, you know. 1042 00:47:59,911 --> 00:48:03,081 We went, "Wow, this place is incredible." 1043 00:48:04,415 --> 00:48:06,884 - People were here because they wanted to be here, 1044 00:48:06,985 --> 00:48:08,719 and Doug was so ahead of the curve on all that, 1045 00:48:08,819 --> 00:48:12,958 you know, that notion of that there were no boundaries. 1046 00:48:13,058 --> 00:48:19,397 [country music] 1047 00:48:21,666 --> 00:48:23,668 - Today, we're penetrating the country field. 1048 00:48:23,768 --> 00:48:25,236 I'm specializing in that. 1049 00:48:25,336 --> 00:48:28,006 One of my current strong projects is Doug Sahm, 1050 00:48:28,106 --> 00:48:29,774 formerly of the Sir Douglas Quintet, 1051 00:48:29,874 --> 00:48:31,276 who is another musician 1052 00:48:31,376 --> 00:48:33,744 who I would give the accolade of genius. 1053 00:48:33,844 --> 00:48:36,047 [Shawn] At the time, you know, Jerry was at the height 1054 00:48:36,147 --> 00:48:39,284 of his game in 72, right, he was huge. 1055 00:48:39,384 --> 00:48:43,221 Wexler came to town looking for Doug Sahm. 1056 00:48:43,321 --> 00:48:44,822 [Jerry] There's a long, elaborate background 1057 00:48:44,922 --> 00:48:46,424 to my interest in Texas music, 1058 00:48:46,524 --> 00:48:48,926 and western swing and blues and so on, 1059 00:48:49,027 --> 00:48:51,829 but to be very succinct and to the point, 1060 00:48:51,929 --> 00:48:54,132 there are two words, Doug Sahm. 1061 00:48:54,499 --> 00:49:01,472 - * Girls like you come wonderin' what's going on * 1062 00:49:02,140 --> 00:49:03,941 [Doug] Jerry, he was one of the main forces 1063 00:49:04,042 --> 00:49:07,412 in music in America, gave me a shot. 1064 00:49:07,512 --> 00:49:09,347 [Louis] We had a lot of good players on the record, 1065 00:49:09,447 --> 00:49:15,353 including Fathead Newman, The Memphis Horns, Dr. John. 1066 00:49:15,453 --> 00:49:20,958 - We was both destined, some kind of witchy way, to hook up. 1067 00:49:21,059 --> 00:49:25,463 He had an interest in all kinds of music. 1068 00:49:25,563 --> 00:49:28,899 He was spiritually hip to a lot of things 1069 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,868 that people ain't hip to. 1070 00:49:30,968 --> 00:49:33,271 His spirit was wide open. 1071 00:49:33,371 --> 00:49:37,242 - * I had seen you standing 1072 00:49:37,342 --> 00:49:40,545 * In the smokey haze 1073 00:49:43,214 --> 00:49:47,885 * I know then you're gonna be mine * 1074 00:49:47,985 --> 00:49:49,087 * One of these days 1075 00:49:49,187 --> 00:49:50,921 - Dylan had been like this recluse 1076 00:49:51,022 --> 00:49:52,623 and that was actually the first record 1077 00:49:52,723 --> 00:49:54,825 he had been on in years. 1078 00:49:54,925 --> 00:49:56,461 - So, he used to come up for that session, 1079 00:49:56,561 --> 00:49:59,130 pick up the guitar, hit a few chords. 1080 00:49:59,230 --> 00:50:01,299 He said, "You know, I've done the word trip, 1081 00:50:01,399 --> 00:50:03,168 "I wanna do the music trip." 1082 00:50:03,268 --> 00:50:07,205 - * Wallflower wallflower won't you dance with me * 1083 00:50:07,305 --> 00:50:13,378 * I'm fallin' in love with you 1084 00:50:13,478 --> 00:50:19,184 * 1085 00:50:20,418 --> 00:50:24,522 - One day, I received a call, and it was Doug Sahm. 1086 00:50:24,622 --> 00:50:26,557 "Hey, why don't you come over, man? 1087 00:50:26,657 --> 00:50:31,196 I'm here in Atlantic cutting a record with Jerry Wexler." 1088 00:50:31,296 --> 00:50:33,998 I was just nervous, you know, to meet Dylan 1089 00:50:34,099 --> 00:50:37,935 and Dr. John and all those guys, you know? 1090 00:50:38,035 --> 00:50:41,339 But I was coached a lot by Doug. 1091 00:50:41,439 --> 00:50:44,075 - * Still I can't hear priest 1092 00:50:46,111 --> 00:50:47,412 [Doug] Flaco! 1093 00:50:47,512 --> 00:50:54,985 [accordion solo] 1094 00:50:55,086 --> 00:51:01,826 * 1095 00:51:01,926 --> 00:51:05,062 - Flaco Jimenez was a bad sucker. 1096 00:51:05,163 --> 00:51:08,866 Doug had an ear for people that was bad. 1097 00:51:08,966 --> 00:51:11,569 Nobody can roll like Doug. 1098 00:51:11,669 --> 00:51:13,938 Doug can roll like that. 1099 00:51:14,038 --> 00:51:20,911 [bluesy jazz music] 1100 00:51:21,011 --> 00:51:22,313 [Joe] At this session in New York, 1101 00:51:22,413 --> 00:51:26,751 and there's Bob Dylan, and Fathead, and Dr. John. 1102 00:51:26,851 --> 00:51:30,288 - I had horns, the steel player that I was playing with, 1103 00:51:30,388 --> 00:51:32,790 Jerry Lee Lewis at the time. 1104 00:51:32,890 --> 00:51:35,092 Had a lot of people on it. 1105 00:51:35,193 --> 00:51:42,900 [bluesy jazz music] 1106 00:51:43,468 --> 00:51:45,035 [Speedy] Probably the biggest gift 1107 00:51:45,136 --> 00:51:47,272 Doug ever gave to Austin was in the early 70s, 1108 00:51:47,372 --> 00:51:49,207 and just being amongst us. 1109 00:51:49,307 --> 00:51:51,342 - He's there, he's in Austin, 1110 00:51:51,442 --> 00:51:53,811 groovers' paradise, this is where he's gonna live, 1111 00:51:53,911 --> 00:51:56,347 this is where he wants to live now. 1112 00:51:56,447 --> 00:51:59,016 - Doug was the street life, you know, 1113 00:51:59,116 --> 00:52:01,419 Doug was Austin. 1114 00:52:01,519 --> 00:52:03,288 - He was a community organizer, 1115 00:52:03,388 --> 00:52:05,590 a community leader, 1116 00:52:05,690 --> 00:52:09,460 and you just wanted to go with him, ah. 1117 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:10,928 [applause] 1118 00:52:11,028 --> 00:52:12,463 [Doug] Thank you, you're beautiful, man. 1119 00:52:12,563 --> 00:52:15,099 [Bill] Doug ruled Austin, he really did. 1120 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,567 He ruled the city. 1121 00:52:16,667 --> 00:52:17,502 [Doug] Okay, what's it gonna be? 1122 00:52:17,602 --> 00:52:19,136 "Mendocino" or "Nuevo Laredo"? 1123 00:52:19,237 --> 00:52:21,005 [cheering] 1124 00:52:21,105 --> 00:52:22,840 Okay, let's hear it, "Nuevo Laredo"! 1125 00:52:22,940 --> 00:52:24,842 [cheering] 1126 00:52:24,942 --> 00:52:25,976 "Mendocino"! 1127 00:52:26,076 --> 00:52:30,781 [cheering] 1128 00:52:31,782 --> 00:52:33,751 Okay, here you go, for all the little boys 1129 00:52:33,851 --> 00:52:35,052 that grew up in Texas, 1130 00:52:35,152 --> 00:52:37,222 this song will be real close to your hearts. 1131 00:52:38,556 --> 00:52:41,392 After drunken football games on Friday nights. 1132 00:52:42,893 --> 00:52:46,096 [Bill] He had it all, and he loved it here. 1133 00:52:46,197 --> 00:52:50,401 - * In a little border town 1134 00:52:53,871 --> 00:52:56,407 [Shawn] He kinda had the world at his fingertips. 1135 00:52:58,509 --> 00:53:02,513 - * Way down there in Nuevo Laredo, Mexico * 1136 00:53:03,648 --> 00:53:06,651 * I spied a senorita there 1137 00:53:06,751 --> 00:53:09,554 * Wind blows through her long black hair * 1138 00:53:09,654 --> 00:53:13,724 * As I cut a trail on the way to Boys Town * 1139 00:53:14,959 --> 00:53:18,028 * Well we smoked and drank the night away * 1140 00:53:18,128 --> 00:53:21,031 * In a dimly lit cafe 1141 00:53:21,131 --> 00:53:26,170 * Long hairs were a novelty to the people on the scene * 1142 00:53:26,837 --> 00:53:29,740 * Played the blues till early dawn * 1143 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,477 * Everybody sang along 1144 00:53:32,577 --> 00:53:36,781 * We had such a ball in Nuevo Laredo * 1145 00:53:38,215 --> 00:53:41,185 * Nuevo Laredo 1146 00:53:41,286 --> 00:53:46,324 * Nuevo Laredo I hear you calling back to me * 1147 00:53:49,394 --> 00:53:54,632 * In the time and all its glory oh yeah * 1148 00:53:54,899 --> 00:53:56,301 [Doug] Austin is known as a playground, 1149 00:53:56,401 --> 00:53:58,135 you know, we've got over 200,000 people there, 1150 00:53:58,235 --> 00:54:00,338 40,000, 50,000 of 'em are students, 1151 00:54:00,438 --> 00:54:02,273 so I mean, and not counting the other 30,000 1152 00:54:02,373 --> 00:54:04,575 who just dropped out who went to school two years ago. 1153 00:54:04,675 --> 00:54:06,311 I bet you, if you got a den, 1154 00:54:06,411 --> 00:54:08,946 I bet you 220,000, 250,000 people in Austin, 1155 00:54:09,046 --> 00:54:10,915 I bet there's 100,000 groovers. 1156 00:54:11,015 --> 00:54:12,617 And people say, "Yeah, that's probably right." 1157 00:54:12,717 --> 00:54:17,455 - * In the time and all its glory * 1158 00:54:18,723 --> 00:54:21,392 * Nuevo Laredo 1159 00:54:21,492 --> 00:54:24,295 * Nuevo Laredo 1160 00:54:24,395 --> 00:54:27,298 * Nuevo Laredo 1161 00:54:27,398 --> 00:54:30,401 * Nuevo Laredo 1162 00:54:35,139 --> 00:54:37,742 [cheering and applause] 1163 00:54:37,842 --> 00:54:39,410 All right! 1164 00:54:40,578 --> 00:54:43,814 - And it's been eight years between Elvis and the Beatles, 1165 00:54:43,914 --> 00:54:46,551 where's our new Messiah coming from? 1166 00:54:46,651 --> 00:54:49,153 And unbeknownst to me, it wasn't gonna come from, 1167 00:54:49,253 --> 00:54:51,356 you know, somebody anywhere else, 1168 00:54:51,456 --> 00:54:53,658 it was happening right underneath us. 1169 00:54:56,193 --> 00:54:57,528 [Doug] Hi everybody, this is Doug Sahm, 1170 00:54:57,628 --> 00:54:59,497 I hope you enjoyed my new album 1171 00:54:59,597 --> 00:55:03,133 on KOKE FM it tops in the new country sound 1172 00:55:03,233 --> 00:55:05,102 that's sweeping the nation. 1173 00:55:05,202 --> 00:55:06,437 - When that record came out, 1174 00:55:06,537 --> 00:55:09,407 he must've thought it was gonna explode, 1175 00:55:09,507 --> 00:55:12,877 and I think he was pretty shook that it didn't. 1176 00:55:12,977 --> 00:55:14,044 [Jerry] Sold a few copies, 1177 00:55:14,144 --> 00:55:18,516 but when you're too good, you have to be very studied 1178 00:55:18,616 --> 00:55:20,418 about what kind of record to give people, 1179 00:55:20,518 --> 00:55:24,088 'cause it's more than they can absorb. 1180 00:55:24,188 --> 00:55:26,457 The other way of saying it I guess is 1181 00:55:26,557 --> 00:55:30,461 it's sort of like mediocrity prevails in America. 1182 00:55:30,561 --> 00:55:32,129 [Doug] 'Cause I know what you did. 1183 00:55:32,229 --> 00:55:34,799 The chances of somebody from the outside 1184 00:55:34,899 --> 00:55:38,302 going there and digging that is about 100% that they won't. 1185 00:55:38,403 --> 00:55:39,970 I mean, really, 100% that they won't, 1186 00:55:40,070 --> 00:55:42,407 there's not even hardly a chance that they will. 1187 00:55:42,507 --> 00:55:44,809 [Bill] There was jazz and blues and country 1188 00:55:44,909 --> 00:55:47,778 and rock, Latino. 1189 00:55:47,878 --> 00:55:49,514 I don't think the public connected 1190 00:55:49,614 --> 00:55:51,649 with all the different sounds. 1191 00:55:51,749 --> 00:55:56,320 [cheering] 1192 00:55:56,421 --> 00:56:00,024 - * Whiskey River take my mind 1193 00:56:01,926 --> 00:56:05,195 * Don't let her memory torture me * 1194 00:56:05,295 --> 00:56:06,764 [Terry] Willie got a tremendous amount 1195 00:56:06,864 --> 00:56:11,035 of economic success rolling, whereas Doug didn't. 1196 00:56:12,770 --> 00:56:14,705 [Bill] KOKE FM was playing Willie all day long 1197 00:56:14,805 --> 00:56:17,408 like it was the Beatles or something. 1198 00:56:17,508 --> 00:56:20,545 I'd go, "Man, this guy, he's taking over." 1199 00:56:20,645 --> 00:56:22,513 - In my mind, one of the most important guys 1200 00:56:22,613 --> 00:56:25,215 in Texas music, Willie Nelson, Doug Sahm... 1201 00:56:25,315 --> 00:56:27,184 Willie's famous, Doug's not. 1202 00:56:28,185 --> 00:56:30,421 [Carlyne] Once you get a subculture to a certain size, 1203 00:56:30,521 --> 00:56:33,057 it encompasses the entire community. 1204 00:56:34,058 --> 00:56:38,028 It's a broader audience, we saw fewer and fewer regulars. 1205 00:56:39,997 --> 00:56:42,700 [Doug] There is a certain syndrome of some stars 1206 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,436 having this giant entourage of people around them, 1207 00:56:45,536 --> 00:56:46,937 and that, I've tried to avoid. 1208 00:56:47,037 --> 00:56:49,073 Sometimes, like, if you get a Bob Dylan or Willie Nelson, 1209 00:56:49,173 --> 00:56:51,509 there's just so many people around all the time, 1210 00:56:51,609 --> 00:56:53,410 you know, just kinda going psh, you know what I mean? 1211 00:56:53,511 --> 00:56:57,347 And it becomes like, that kind of circus atmosphere, 1212 00:56:57,448 --> 00:56:58,849 I can't explain it. 1213 00:56:59,450 --> 00:57:01,151 - Oh, he'd bitch about it and make records, 1214 00:57:01,251 --> 00:57:02,787 and bitch about it, 1215 00:57:02,887 --> 00:57:04,622 and then encourage everybody to come down here, 1216 00:57:04,722 --> 00:57:07,558 so it was, it was-- 1217 00:57:07,658 --> 00:57:10,027 it didn't make any sense, but you know. 1218 00:57:10,127 --> 00:57:13,163 - Doug in some ways had kind of peaked, 1219 00:57:13,263 --> 00:57:14,832 so Willie rose to the top, 1220 00:57:14,932 --> 00:57:18,335 and Doug only liked to play when he was first. 1221 00:57:18,435 --> 00:57:20,505 It was sports mentality, right? 1222 00:57:20,605 --> 00:57:22,573 "I gotta be first, I gotta be first." 1223 00:57:22,673 --> 00:57:24,509 - You'd hear my dad a lot through his career 1224 00:57:24,609 --> 00:57:26,944 talk about all the places he went to, 1225 00:57:27,044 --> 00:57:29,580 how the groove eventually came to an end, you know, 1226 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,482 and I think what that meant is in Doug's words, 1227 00:57:31,582 --> 00:57:33,450 that that meant it got discovered 1228 00:57:33,551 --> 00:57:35,252 and tons of people came and it wasn't the small 1229 00:57:35,352 --> 00:57:37,321 kinda intimate community thing 1230 00:57:37,421 --> 00:57:39,624 this used to be when he first got there. 1231 00:57:43,027 --> 00:57:44,829 [Bill] Austin quit paying attention to him. 1232 00:57:44,929 --> 00:57:46,263 [music "Stoned Faces Don't Lie] 1233 00:57:46,363 --> 00:57:49,567 * Stoned faces don't lie 1234 00:57:51,235 --> 00:57:55,139 * Baby when you're high 1235 00:57:58,108 --> 00:58:04,549 * Other day saw a picture of an old friend of mine * 1236 00:58:07,217 --> 00:58:13,157 * Back to the days when friends they were so mellow * 1237 00:58:15,926 --> 00:58:22,900 * It made me stop and think as I looked on his face * 1238 00:58:25,269 --> 00:58:31,275 * And I thought about what's goin' down today * 1239 00:58:32,442 --> 00:58:36,313 * Stoned faces don't lie 1240 00:58:36,881 --> 00:58:41,085 * Baby when you're high * 1241 00:58:41,652 --> 00:58:45,590 * Stoned faces don't lie Austin * 1242 00:58:46,256 --> 00:58:50,427 * Baby when you're high 1243 00:58:50,527 --> 00:59:02,039 * 1244 00:59:02,139 --> 00:59:04,508 [applause] 1245 00:59:04,609 --> 00:59:05,810 - Thank you! 1246 00:59:05,910 --> 00:59:08,579 - There was always a great respect in Europe 1247 00:59:08,679 --> 00:59:11,782 for home-grown American music. 1248 00:59:11,882 --> 00:59:13,584 - Anybody here in the house ever been down to, 1249 00:59:13,684 --> 00:59:15,686 down to Texas at all? 1250 00:59:15,786 --> 00:59:17,554 Down on the Rio Grande or the Guadeloupe Rivers? 1251 00:59:17,655 --> 00:59:19,056 Guy over there. 1252 00:59:19,156 --> 00:59:20,457 Been down and drank a little tequila 1253 00:59:20,557 --> 00:59:22,727 on the border a few times probably, right? 1254 00:59:22,827 --> 00:59:25,062 [Larry] Wherever we would go, he would fill the place. 1255 00:59:25,162 --> 00:59:27,698 - Well, over here, they liked the old country, 1256 00:59:27,798 --> 00:59:29,934 they've never been bombarded with a lot of the new pop. 1257 00:59:30,034 --> 00:59:31,368 See, country music now in America 1258 00:59:31,468 --> 00:59:32,637 is not necessarily country anymore, 1259 00:59:32,737 --> 00:59:35,472 it's kind of a pop music thing, 1260 00:59:35,572 --> 00:59:36,941 I'm not gonna mention any names, 1261 00:59:37,041 --> 00:59:39,309 so to me, I like the old country sound, 1262 00:59:39,409 --> 00:59:40,645 the Bob Wills Western swing, 1263 00:59:40,745 --> 00:59:42,747 and there are some good guys playing now, 1264 00:59:42,847 --> 00:59:44,715 like Alvin Crow, but again, 1265 00:59:44,815 --> 00:59:47,151 they're not owned by giant American corporations. 1266 00:59:47,251 --> 00:59:49,654 I'm gonna try to bring him here next year. 1267 00:59:49,754 --> 00:59:51,421 He wants to come real bad. 1268 00:59:51,521 --> 00:59:52,489 - I can remember him saying, 1269 00:59:52,589 --> 00:59:53,624 "I'm gonna take you guys around the way," 1270 00:59:53,724 --> 00:59:56,761 like a tour guide almost. 1271 00:59:56,861 --> 01:00:00,831 We played Germany and France and England, you know, 1272 01:00:00,931 --> 01:00:03,500 and basically we just enjoyed being together. 1273 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,871 - * Meet me in Stockholm baby 1274 01:00:06,971 --> 01:00:08,906 * We'll mess around 1275 01:00:11,341 --> 01:00:14,111 * Take a real slow boat 1276 01:00:14,211 --> 01:00:16,847 * To Helsinki town 1277 01:00:19,416 --> 01:00:22,519 * And when it's over know 1278 01:00:22,619 --> 01:00:24,689 - Doug was always the deal maker, 1279 01:00:24,789 --> 01:00:27,491 and so he got interested in rejuvenating 1280 01:00:27,591 --> 01:00:30,494 the Sir Douglas Quintet. 1281 01:00:30,594 --> 01:00:32,562 - * We'll mess around 1282 01:00:32,663 --> 01:00:34,999 Play it, Augie, play it pretty, boy. 1283 01:00:35,099 --> 01:00:38,769 [accordion plays] 1284 01:00:38,869 --> 01:00:41,271 - That's when we did "Meet Me in Stockholm". 1285 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,009 It was a pretty big hit. 1286 01:00:45,843 --> 01:00:46,911 [Joe] This is pretty interesting. 1287 01:00:47,011 --> 01:00:49,880 You get to play with Doug, and then Augie shows up, 1288 01:00:49,980 --> 01:00:52,449 so what does Augie bring to the table? 1289 01:00:52,549 --> 01:00:54,852 - Right, well the repertoire expanded. 1290 01:00:54,952 --> 01:00:58,956 Doug loved Augie for his vibe as much as for his talent. 1291 01:00:59,389 --> 01:01:01,458 [Doug] Sing with me, Augie. 1292 01:01:01,558 --> 01:01:04,762 * Meet me in Stockholm baby 1293 01:01:04,862 --> 01:01:06,296 - So we get ready to go to Scandinavia, 1294 01:01:06,396 --> 01:01:09,867 and Doug goes, "I've got something to tell you guys. 1295 01:01:09,967 --> 01:01:11,802 We gotta learn some new material." 1296 01:01:11,902 --> 01:01:13,337 I go, "Why, why?" 1297 01:01:13,437 --> 01:01:15,706 He goes, "Well, we got these hits in Scandinavia 1298 01:01:15,806 --> 01:01:17,374 that you guys don't know at all." 1299 01:01:17,474 --> 01:01:20,377 and so he starts playing and we're going, "Oh no." 1300 01:01:20,477 --> 01:01:22,913 [applause] 1301 01:01:23,013 --> 01:01:27,952 - * The train to Trondheim was right on time * 1302 01:01:29,754 --> 01:01:32,790 * Swinging my way to baby 1303 01:01:32,890 --> 01:01:35,125 * We look alive 1304 01:01:35,225 --> 01:01:37,661 [Kerry] He sort of tried to cater to the old country. 1305 01:01:37,762 --> 01:01:40,998 - * I made an unexpected stop 1306 01:01:41,098 --> 01:01:44,134 - We were doing songs about European towns and everything, 1307 01:01:44,234 --> 01:01:47,905 and they wanted songs about Texas and America. 1308 01:01:48,005 --> 01:01:49,840 It backfired on us. 1309 01:01:52,342 --> 01:01:53,744 * - Bavarian baby * 1310 01:01:53,844 --> 01:01:55,479 * Bavarian baby 1311 01:01:55,579 --> 01:01:57,347 * Running down the road 1312 01:01:57,447 --> 01:01:58,783 * Down the road 1313 01:01:58,883 --> 01:02:00,584 * Bavarian baby 1314 01:02:00,684 --> 01:02:12,662 * 1315 01:02:12,763 --> 01:02:14,664 * Nowhere like Norway 1316 01:02:14,765 --> 01:02:17,034 * Nowhere like Norway 1317 01:02:17,134 --> 01:02:20,370 * Nowhere like Norway at all 1318 01:02:20,737 --> 01:02:22,840 [Bill] Doug was a beautiful human being, 1319 01:02:22,940 --> 01:02:25,976 but he was also always trying to maneuver 1320 01:02:26,076 --> 01:02:29,113 and Augie was a great counterpart to that 1321 01:02:29,213 --> 01:02:30,815 in that he was always straight ahead. 1322 01:02:30,915 --> 01:02:34,184 - I told Doug, I said, "Doug, be real," 1323 01:02:34,284 --> 01:02:35,886 you know, I just had to tell him, 1324 01:02:35,986 --> 01:02:38,823 I said, "Be real, you know that ain't gonna work." 1325 01:02:38,923 --> 01:02:40,991 - I don't think there was a tour we did 1326 01:02:41,091 --> 01:02:43,460 that didn't end with Augie saying, 1327 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,762 "This is the last time I'm ever working with that guy." 1328 01:02:45,863 --> 01:02:47,932 [laughter] 1329 01:02:48,966 --> 01:02:50,267 [Joe] It's just something you have to accept. 1330 01:02:50,367 --> 01:02:52,436 - That's life with Doug. 1331 01:02:52,870 --> 01:02:55,772 [Speedy] The vibe on that last tour wasn't great. 1332 01:02:56,807 --> 01:03:00,544 [Doug] In the year 1625, 1333 01:03:00,644 --> 01:03:03,047 King Gustav of Sweden 1334 01:03:03,147 --> 01:03:05,582 sent out an order to build the finest warship 1335 01:03:05,682 --> 01:03:07,684 that would ever sail the Baltic. 1336 01:03:08,218 --> 01:03:09,786 - I think if you really pressed Doug, 1337 01:03:09,887 --> 01:03:11,788 he wouldn't have seen "Meet Me in Stockholm" 1338 01:03:11,889 --> 01:03:13,490 and those songs as his best, 1339 01:03:13,590 --> 01:03:15,425 but he did 'em and he would never apologize for 'em. 1340 01:03:15,525 --> 01:03:17,194 I think that's because there's many facets, 1341 01:03:17,294 --> 01:03:19,429 there were many kind of Doug Sahms in a way. 1342 01:03:19,529 --> 01:03:22,066 And none of 'em, he didn't look at any of 'em 1343 01:03:22,166 --> 01:03:24,801 being untrue, but also, 1344 01:03:24,902 --> 01:03:27,471 he was a commercial being, he knew what it took. 1345 01:03:27,571 --> 01:03:31,375 - * That eyes of the world were on Stockholm that day * 1346 01:03:31,475 --> 01:03:35,379 * He floated alone to back home here to stay * 1347 01:03:35,479 --> 01:03:39,716 * He raised the mighty warship from its watery grave * 1348 01:03:39,816 --> 01:03:44,388 * It wasn't destined 1349 01:03:45,655 --> 01:03:47,157 [Joe] He bores easily? 1350 01:03:47,257 --> 01:03:48,592 - Yeah. 1351 01:03:48,692 --> 01:03:50,995 [Joe] What is that? 1352 01:03:51,095 --> 01:03:52,997 - No matter who he was with, 1353 01:03:53,097 --> 01:03:55,232 he was wishing he was with somebody else. 1354 01:03:55,332 --> 01:03:57,367 [laughing] No matter where he was, 1355 01:03:57,467 --> 01:03:59,536 he was wishing he was somewhere else. 1356 01:04:05,075 --> 01:04:06,176 [Interviewer] Well, we have a very special guest 1357 01:04:06,276 --> 01:04:08,378 with us this evening, Doug Sahm 1358 01:04:08,478 --> 01:04:09,513 welcome to Canada. 1359 01:04:09,613 --> 01:04:11,415 - Thank you, man, nice to be here. 1360 01:04:11,515 --> 01:04:13,817 - I just started getting the odd phone call from Doug 1361 01:04:13,918 --> 01:04:15,685 out of the blue and I was so thrilled, 1362 01:04:15,785 --> 01:04:18,889 and I was, you know, I was a huge fan, 1363 01:04:18,989 --> 01:04:21,258 so it meant a lot to me. 1364 01:04:21,358 --> 01:04:23,227 That's when we started working together 1365 01:04:23,327 --> 01:04:26,163 on the Amis, Doug and Jean project. 1366 01:04:27,998 --> 01:04:30,700 [music "Teardrops On Your Letter"] 1367 01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,971 * Teardrops on your letter 1368 01:04:35,272 --> 01:04:37,807 * That I got from you 1369 01:04:37,908 --> 01:04:40,210 - I heard him play some Mexican salsa, 1370 01:04:40,310 --> 01:04:42,712 baja sexto, however you say it, 1371 01:04:42,812 --> 01:04:45,349 and if you didn't know the songs, that was no problem, 1372 01:04:45,449 --> 01:04:47,651 he'd come over and show you your part. 1373 01:04:48,585 --> 01:04:50,554 [Holger] After we did the record in 87, 1374 01:04:50,654 --> 01:04:51,989 we started doing festivals, 1375 01:04:52,089 --> 01:04:55,859 the Winnipeg Folk Festival, Mariposa in Toronto. 1376 01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:57,761 - When you're on stage with that guy 1377 01:04:57,861 --> 01:05:00,064 and everything's cooking, 1378 01:05:00,164 --> 01:05:03,800 it's like there is no ceiling. 1379 01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:05,602 You put up with a lot. 1380 01:05:08,372 --> 01:05:09,306 [Doug] It's 40 below zero, man. 1381 01:05:09,406 --> 01:05:10,840 I mean, people think they've been cold, 1382 01:05:10,941 --> 01:05:12,542 they're like, at night, they're shivering. 1383 01:05:12,642 --> 01:05:13,877 Man, this ain't nothing, I mean, 1384 01:05:13,978 --> 01:05:16,180 we're talking, you know, 10 foot drifts, 1385 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,748 and somebody Texas never seen a lifetime, 1386 01:05:18,848 --> 01:05:20,517 and it blew my mind, you know. 1387 01:05:21,351 --> 01:05:24,821 - He had leased a place on Vancouver Island 1388 01:05:24,921 --> 01:05:26,656 in the town of Victoria. 1389 01:05:27,824 --> 01:05:31,028 [Holger] He was just totally in his own environment. 1390 01:05:31,128 --> 01:05:33,030 It seemed like he wanted to be 1391 01:05:33,130 --> 01:05:36,433 really quiet and away from everything. 1392 01:05:37,301 --> 01:05:39,636 [Gene] He didn't even have a phone. 1393 01:05:40,470 --> 01:05:43,207 - * Little girl 1394 01:05:43,607 --> 01:05:48,178 * Head down the road * 1395 01:05:50,414 --> 01:05:54,251 - Every time he got the fruits of what he worked for, 1396 01:05:54,351 --> 01:05:58,455 it freaked him out to the point, to where he'd kinda recoil. 1397 01:05:58,555 --> 01:06:02,892 And unintentionally throw a wrench in it. 1398 01:06:02,993 --> 01:06:05,529 - * And it sure does wig me out * 1399 01:06:06,596 --> 01:06:08,665 * When I think about 1400 01:06:08,765 --> 01:06:11,268 - As time went on, 1401 01:06:11,368 --> 01:06:13,437 um, he uh, 1402 01:06:13,537 --> 01:06:17,441 he started putting up barriers that became a little more, 1403 01:06:17,541 --> 01:06:19,309 he said, "Well, I don't want to play with 1404 01:06:19,409 --> 01:06:20,777 the same rhythm section," he said. 1405 01:06:20,877 --> 01:06:23,280 "I want to bring some of my own guys." 1406 01:06:23,380 --> 01:06:25,082 - I heard all about it, you know. 1407 01:06:25,182 --> 01:06:27,684 But Doug wanted his guys from Texas. 1408 01:06:29,586 --> 01:06:32,356 - Doug also would say from time to time 1409 01:06:32,456 --> 01:06:35,259 that he couldn't get any good Mexican food. 1410 01:06:35,359 --> 01:06:36,560 I mean, where he was in Shawnigan Lake, 1411 01:06:36,660 --> 01:06:40,130 he had to go to Nanaimo to go to a Mexican restaurant, 1412 01:06:40,230 --> 01:06:43,433 that was like, you know, about an hour and a half drive. 1413 01:06:45,702 --> 01:06:48,004 - * That I took the time 1414 01:06:48,105 --> 01:06:51,375 * To concentrate on you 1415 01:06:52,276 --> 01:06:55,479 - Doug was never satisfied with one thing. 1416 01:06:55,579 --> 01:06:56,846 It's almost like his DNA 1417 01:06:56,946 --> 01:06:59,349 would not allow him to be tied down. 1418 01:06:59,449 --> 01:07:00,650 - You know, he just decided, 1419 01:07:00,750 --> 01:07:02,052 "I don't wanna do this no more," 1420 01:07:02,152 --> 01:07:04,121 and flake off. 1421 01:07:05,255 --> 01:07:10,694 * But you just can't live in Texas * 1422 01:07:11,528 --> 01:07:17,134 * If you don't have a lot of soul * 1423 01:07:17,234 --> 01:07:20,370 [Jack] The other stuff was fine, make a few bucks, 1424 01:07:20,470 --> 01:07:23,540 but he had to come back to the real shit. 1425 01:07:24,108 --> 01:07:26,476 - * Hey baby que paso 1426 01:07:27,777 --> 01:07:30,480 * Thought I was your only vato 1427 01:07:31,815 --> 01:07:34,518 * Hey baby que paso 1428 01:07:35,785 --> 01:07:38,688 * Won't you give me un beso 1429 01:07:38,922 --> 01:07:40,357 [Joe] "Hey Baby Que Paso", I mean, 1430 01:07:40,457 --> 01:07:42,826 I think Doug was in Canada when Augie recorded it. 1431 01:07:42,926 --> 01:07:44,161 - I think so. 1432 01:07:44,261 --> 01:07:45,895 [Joe] And that might have precipitated the return. 1433 01:07:45,995 --> 01:07:47,331 - I know, I think you're right. 1434 01:07:47,431 --> 01:07:48,932 Didn't Augie put that out on his own? 1435 01:07:49,032 --> 01:07:49,866 [Joe] Yeah, it was a hit. 1436 01:07:49,966 --> 01:07:50,867 - Yeah, it was a hit. 1437 01:07:50,967 --> 01:07:52,169 [Joe] It got picked up handsomely. 1438 01:07:52,269 --> 01:07:53,770 - Yeah, and Doug's jealous. 1439 01:07:56,005 --> 01:07:58,242 - It agitated him that I had a hit. 1440 01:07:58,342 --> 01:07:59,443 [Joe] This was a motivator. 1441 01:07:59,543 --> 01:08:01,311 - Yeah, but that's when he came back here 1442 01:08:01,411 --> 01:08:03,447 and got with Randy Garibay, 1443 01:08:03,547 --> 01:08:06,916 and they cut Manana, you know. 1444 01:08:07,016 --> 01:08:08,718 But it didn't hit. 1445 01:08:12,622 --> 01:08:14,224 [Interviewer] When you went to California in the 60s, 1446 01:08:14,324 --> 01:08:16,226 when you went to Sweden in the 80s, 1447 01:08:16,326 --> 01:08:17,994 when you went to Canada in the late 80s, 1448 01:08:18,094 --> 01:08:20,096 you always come back to Texas. 1449 01:08:20,197 --> 01:08:23,099 [Doug] Yeah, that's what fires up the memories. 1450 01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:30,407 [conjunto music] 1451 01:08:30,507 --> 01:08:32,576 I lived in Canada for almost a year and half. 1452 01:08:32,676 --> 01:08:34,311 It was really lovely, but I really missed 1453 01:08:34,411 --> 01:08:36,646 all my baseball compadres, you know, 1454 01:08:36,746 --> 01:08:40,284 and chicano buddies, musicians, in San Antonio. 1455 01:08:40,617 --> 01:08:44,521 - Texas was like a plate of food for him, man. 1456 01:08:44,621 --> 01:08:48,625 He had to get some food for him to get some satisfaction. 1457 01:08:48,725 --> 01:08:51,127 [Doug] Thursday morning, I was cutting these polkas, 1458 01:08:51,228 --> 01:08:52,596 and recording Spanish music. 1459 01:08:52,696 --> 01:08:54,364 That night, Jimmy Dan Halvin came down, 1460 01:08:54,464 --> 01:08:56,366 we played this incredible country gig, 1461 01:08:56,466 --> 01:08:58,134 and then Sunday, I just played in the park, 1462 01:08:58,235 --> 01:08:59,869 the old west side tunes, 1463 01:08:59,969 --> 01:09:02,239 for thousands of west side chicanos, 1464 01:09:02,339 --> 01:09:04,140 I mean, nowhere in the world can you do that. 1465 01:09:04,241 --> 01:09:11,281 [conjunto music] 1466 01:09:12,148 --> 01:09:13,350 - Doug said, "Man, I'm talking to a guy 1467 01:09:13,450 --> 01:09:15,685 out in Warner Brothers," he said, 1468 01:09:15,785 --> 01:09:18,054 "They want to get a big supergroup together 1469 01:09:18,154 --> 01:09:21,090 "thing going with Tex-Mex music." 1470 01:09:21,191 --> 01:09:22,158 And I said, "Yeah, but who else?" 1471 01:09:22,259 --> 01:09:23,693 He said, "Let's get Flaco, 1472 01:09:23,793 --> 01:09:25,829 and let's see if Freddy wants to do it." 1473 01:09:27,564 --> 01:09:32,902 - I would like to introduce the following Americans. 1474 01:09:33,002 --> 01:09:34,238 Freddy Fender, 1475 01:09:34,338 --> 01:09:37,641 [cheering and applause] 1476 01:09:37,741 --> 01:09:38,842 Flaco Jimenez, 1477 01:09:38,942 --> 01:09:42,178 [cheering and applause] 1478 01:09:42,279 --> 01:09:43,247 Augie Myers, 1479 01:09:43,347 --> 01:09:46,283 [cheering and applause] 1480 01:09:46,383 --> 01:09:47,684 and Doug Sahm. 1481 01:09:47,784 --> 01:09:50,420 [cheering and applause] 1482 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,823 Folks, make way for the Texas Tornado! 1483 01:09:53,923 --> 01:09:56,926 [cheering] 1484 01:09:57,026 --> 01:10:00,864 [music "Ella Pertenece Al Diablo"] 1485 01:10:00,964 --> 01:10:08,405 [singing Spanish] 1486 01:10:16,112 --> 01:10:18,982 * I met a little tejanita 1487 01:10:19,649 --> 01:10:22,752 * And I fell in love with her * 1488 01:10:23,587 --> 01:10:26,756 * She was so bonita 1489 01:10:27,457 --> 01:10:30,026 - Doug was just in his natural element again, 1490 01:10:30,126 --> 01:10:31,695 being the guru. 1491 01:10:31,795 --> 01:10:34,230 "These are my boys, we're the Tex-Mex Beatles, 1492 01:10:34,331 --> 01:10:36,266 "look at Flaco, look at Freddy, look at Augie," 1493 01:10:36,366 --> 01:10:38,602 he was so proud of the Tornados, 1494 01:10:38,702 --> 01:10:41,705 that was the true blessing of his life. 1495 01:10:42,572 --> 01:10:45,742 - * So I can come back home 1496 01:10:45,842 --> 01:10:46,876 [Doug] Flaco! 1497 01:10:46,976 --> 01:10:55,051 [accordion solo] 1498 01:10:55,151 --> 01:11:03,660 * 1499 01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,763 - When we were traveling in the tour bus, whatever, 1500 01:11:06,863 --> 01:11:10,700 Doug just stands up in the middle of the bus, 1501 01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:14,170 "The non-groovers on this side of the bus, 1502 01:11:14,270 --> 01:11:17,374 and the groovers on this side of the bus." 1503 01:11:17,474 --> 01:11:28,518 [Texas Tornados singing in Spanish] 1504 01:11:28,618 --> 01:11:30,186 - Whether you were on stage grooving 1505 01:11:30,286 --> 01:11:31,588 or you were grooving off stage, 1506 01:11:31,688 --> 01:11:34,591 the idea was to just enjoy what you were doing 1507 01:11:34,691 --> 01:11:37,361 24 hours a day, we were grooving, grooving, 1508 01:11:37,461 --> 01:11:38,495 grooving on the bus, grooving here 1509 01:11:38,595 --> 01:11:39,996 and grooving there, you know. 1510 01:11:40,096 --> 01:11:42,499 - We're like an old cockroach, you know, in the sink? 1511 01:11:42,599 --> 01:11:44,601 You put hot water so you can get rid of it, 1512 01:11:44,701 --> 01:11:46,302 then when you turn the faucet off, 1513 01:11:46,403 --> 01:11:47,404 you wait about five minutes, 1514 01:11:47,504 --> 01:11:48,872 the son of a gun comes out again. 1515 01:11:48,972 --> 01:11:50,374 [laughter] 1516 01:11:50,474 --> 01:11:51,808 - I feel like the quarterback of a championship team, 1517 01:11:51,908 --> 01:11:53,977 I gotta, I know Flaco's gonna kill 'em, 1518 01:11:54,077 --> 01:11:55,311 I know he's gonna kill 'em, 1519 01:11:55,412 --> 01:11:57,681 he's going for it, Augie's gonna kill 'em. 1520 01:11:57,781 --> 01:11:59,683 - You heard of New Kids on the Block? 1521 01:11:59,783 --> 01:12:01,317 We're the old farts in the neighborhood. 1522 01:12:01,418 --> 01:12:02,886 Dougie saw him, and he said, "Man, Freddy, 1523 01:12:02,986 --> 01:12:06,756 "all you draw is old women with no teeth." [laughing] 1524 01:12:09,559 --> 01:12:16,032 [Texas Tornados singing in Spanish] 1525 01:12:16,132 --> 01:12:18,735 [laughter] 1526 01:12:18,835 --> 01:12:20,203 [Doug] We're basically really happy 1527 01:12:20,303 --> 01:12:21,371 now that were getting out to other places 1528 01:12:21,471 --> 01:12:22,839 that we can get around. 1529 01:12:22,939 --> 01:12:25,308 We're just going trucking, making good music. 1530 01:12:25,409 --> 01:12:31,981 [conjunto music] 1531 01:12:33,216 --> 01:12:41,525 [conjunto music] 1532 01:12:41,625 --> 01:12:43,860 [Beavis] I heard these guys are bilingual. 1533 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:44,861 [Butthead] Yeah. 1534 01:12:45,829 --> 01:12:48,965 That dude in the back, he's got two linguals. 1535 01:12:49,065 --> 01:12:51,435 [laughing] 1536 01:12:53,937 --> 01:12:55,939 - Are you familiar with a musical phenomenon 1537 01:12:56,039 --> 01:12:57,507 known as Tex-Mex? 1538 01:12:57,607 --> 01:12:59,443 [David] Yes I am, Paul, and are you familiar 1539 01:12:59,543 --> 01:13:01,811 with the phenomenon of a full-length mirror? 1540 01:13:01,911 --> 01:13:03,613 [laughter] 1541 01:13:03,713 --> 01:13:05,181 - We have a group here, the Texas Tornados, 1542 01:13:05,281 --> 01:13:06,883 and they're sitting in with us for the entire evening, 1543 01:13:06,983 --> 01:13:09,218 and they are four of the prime proponents 1544 01:13:09,318 --> 01:13:11,555 of the Tex-Mex sound, each of them 1545 01:13:11,655 --> 01:13:13,790 a star in his own right. - Call them out right now. 1546 01:13:13,890 --> 01:13:15,692 [Paul] Mr. Doug Sahm, ladies and gentlemen. 1547 01:13:15,792 --> 01:13:17,861 [David] All right, how are ya? 1548 01:13:18,828 --> 01:13:21,931 - The Texas Tornados validated Doug again in his mind, 1549 01:13:22,031 --> 01:13:24,367 so he was free to be, you know, Sir Doug. 1550 01:13:24,468 --> 01:13:27,871 He was free to be the guy that was at the top. 1551 01:13:31,107 --> 01:13:34,010 [Joe] And what did Doug bring to the table? 1552 01:13:34,678 --> 01:13:36,345 - Doug Sahm. [laughter] 1553 01:13:36,446 --> 01:13:38,014 The whole nine yards, you know. 1554 01:13:38,114 --> 01:13:41,384 Doug, today, there's two guitar players, 1555 01:13:41,485 --> 01:13:43,352 that's ultimate guitar player. 1556 01:13:43,453 --> 01:13:45,421 It was him and Chris Holzhaus. 1557 01:13:45,522 --> 01:13:47,256 You know, those are my two guitar players, 1558 01:13:47,356 --> 01:13:49,025 you know, and I love both of 'em. 1559 01:13:49,125 --> 01:13:50,393 They're both gone. 1560 01:13:50,494 --> 01:13:52,796 But... 1561 01:13:52,896 --> 01:13:55,599 And Freddy's gone too, you know, that's... 1562 01:13:57,133 --> 01:13:58,935 You know... 1563 01:13:59,035 --> 01:14:00,436 you just keep going. 1564 01:14:00,537 --> 01:14:08,745 [somber music] 1565 01:14:08,845 --> 01:14:11,114 [Shawn] You know what I learned? 1566 01:14:11,214 --> 01:14:12,415 I always said, I told him, 1567 01:14:12,516 --> 01:14:14,250 I told him, I said, "Dad," I remember one time 1568 01:14:14,350 --> 01:14:17,253 I wrote a song called "One and Only", 1569 01:14:17,353 --> 01:14:19,989 and it was on Zone of Our Own , 1570 01:14:20,089 --> 01:14:21,958 the Texas Tornado record Zone of Our Own , 1571 01:14:22,058 --> 01:14:26,763 and there's this line in it that says, 1572 01:14:26,863 --> 01:14:30,166 "Empty bottle stares at me, suitcase by the door," 1573 01:14:30,266 --> 01:14:32,702 now, any Doug heads'll know I'm a big honky blues fan, 1574 01:14:32,802 --> 01:14:35,505 so a song has a line that says, 1575 01:14:35,605 --> 01:14:36,673 * Suitcases packed 1576 01:14:36,773 --> 01:14:39,342 * Sitting over by the bed by the door * 1577 01:14:39,442 --> 01:14:41,845 So when I said that line in mine, he goes, 1578 01:14:41,945 --> 01:14:44,480 "Hey man, I think you got that from me, man! 1579 01:14:44,581 --> 01:14:45,615 Yeah, yeah, yeah," you know, he was like, 1580 01:14:45,715 --> 01:14:46,816 "Oh wow," you know? 1581 01:14:46,916 --> 01:14:49,152 And I go, "What are you talking about, Dad? 1582 01:14:49,252 --> 01:14:51,054 I got everything from you, man." 1583 01:14:51,154 --> 01:14:55,491 [cheering] 1584 01:14:55,592 --> 01:14:57,126 - All right. 1585 01:14:57,694 --> 01:15:00,930 And now the San Antonio portion of the program. 1586 01:15:03,066 --> 01:15:04,668 Boy, we could have a cheering match here, man, 1587 01:15:04,768 --> 01:15:06,536 we got Texas all over the place here. 1588 01:15:06,636 --> 01:15:08,171 This next song is very important, 1589 01:15:08,271 --> 01:15:09,472 would you give me a drum roll, 1590 01:15:09,573 --> 01:15:11,741 Ernie, would you give me a drum roll there? 1591 01:15:11,841 --> 01:15:13,342 This kinda song, if you're from South Texas, 1592 01:15:13,442 --> 01:15:17,881 you can rise, as we do, the San Antonio national anthem, 1593 01:15:17,981 --> 01:15:18,948 here we go. 1594 01:15:19,048 --> 01:15:24,287 [drum roll] 1595 01:15:24,387 --> 01:15:26,890 - * Hey baby que paso 1596 01:15:27,991 --> 01:15:30,927 * Thought I was your only vato 1597 01:15:32,428 --> 01:15:34,964 * Hey baby que paso 1598 01:15:36,465 --> 01:15:39,068 * Won't you give me un beso 1599 01:15:40,469 --> 01:15:43,006 * Come on baby turn around 1600 01:15:44,574 --> 01:15:47,143 * Let me show you how I feel 1601 01:15:48,612 --> 01:15:51,247 * Don't you know that I love you * 1602 01:15:52,649 --> 01:15:55,585 * And my corazon is real 1603 01:15:56,820 --> 01:15:59,555 * Hey baby que paso 1604 01:16:00,890 --> 01:16:03,727 * Thought I was your only vato 1605 01:16:05,194 --> 01:16:07,764 * Hey baby que paso 1606 01:16:09,298 --> 01:16:11,935 * Won't you give me un beso 1607 01:16:15,504 --> 01:16:18,407 [Doug] Ah sweet Augie, Augie my baby. 1608 01:16:18,507 --> 01:16:29,653 [accordion solo] 1609 01:16:29,753 --> 01:16:32,288 * Hey baby que paso 1610 01:16:33,790 --> 01:16:36,592 * Thought I was your only vato 1611 01:16:37,861 --> 01:16:40,630 * Hey baby que paso 1612 01:16:41,931 --> 01:16:44,701 * Won't you give me un beso 1613 01:16:48,037 --> 01:16:51,174 [cheering] 1614 01:16:51,274 --> 01:16:52,475 Thank you. 1615 01:16:52,575 --> 01:17:06,322 [cheering and applause] 1616 01:17:06,422 --> 01:17:07,156 [Announcer] Ladies and gentlemen, 1617 01:17:07,256 --> 01:17:08,457 Mr. Shawn Sahm everybody. 1618 01:17:08,557 --> 01:17:11,494 [cheering] 1619 01:17:11,594 --> 01:17:13,162 - Before we go any further, 1620 01:17:13,262 --> 01:17:15,631 every show we do, man, every time we walk 1621 01:17:15,732 --> 01:17:18,434 on the stage, it's about celebrating Doug Sahm 1622 01:17:18,534 --> 01:17:20,169 and Freddy Fender, man, let's hear it. 1623 01:17:20,269 --> 01:17:22,038 [cheering and applause] 1624 01:17:22,138 --> 01:17:24,040 [Shawn] Here we go, this is what we do, 1625 01:17:24,140 --> 01:17:25,775 and this is the best medicine right here, 1626 01:17:25,875 --> 01:17:28,845 for all of us to get together and groove for 'em, right? 1627 01:17:30,513 --> 01:17:31,881 * Who were you thinking of 1628 01:17:31,981 --> 01:17:34,483 * When we were making love last night * 1629 01:17:34,583 --> 01:17:37,186 There it is, baby! 1630 01:17:37,286 --> 01:17:39,488 * Was it a good looking stranger * 1631 01:17:39,588 --> 01:17:41,657 * Or a close friend of mine 1632 01:17:44,060 --> 01:17:45,762 * You didn't want to quit 1633 01:17:45,862 --> 01:17:48,965 * When we were into it last night * 1634 01:17:51,067 --> 01:17:52,736 * Who were you thinking of 1635 01:17:52,836 --> 01:17:55,671 * When we were loving last night * 1636 01:17:58,074 --> 01:17:59,675 * Who were you thinking of 1637 01:17:59,776 --> 01:18:02,946 * When I was making love to you * 1638 01:18:05,248 --> 01:18:06,883 * There was a smile on your face * 1639 01:18:06,983 --> 01:18:08,952 * I hadn't seen in some time 1640 01:18:09,052 --> 01:18:10,787 - My first impression of Doug was 1641 01:18:10,887 --> 01:18:14,557 "God, this guy talks." [laughter] 1642 01:18:15,124 --> 01:18:16,926 - Doug talked in a patois, and you know, 1643 01:18:17,026 --> 01:18:18,194 it was like there was this cadence, 1644 01:18:18,294 --> 01:18:21,497 this da, da, da, and it was "man," and it was "cat." 1645 01:18:21,597 --> 01:18:23,767 - Man, he would give you energy 1646 01:18:23,867 --> 01:18:25,601 just being around you. 1647 01:18:25,701 --> 01:18:27,804 - Put his attache case on the desk 1648 01:18:27,904 --> 01:18:29,038 and open it up, and there'd be like, 1649 01:18:29,138 --> 01:18:31,574 15 to 20 different varieties of weed, 1650 01:18:31,674 --> 01:18:34,844 and you'd proceed to... 1651 01:18:34,944 --> 01:18:36,279 you know, smoke it, and two hours later, 1652 01:18:36,379 --> 01:18:38,581 you're still yapping away with Doug, you know. 1653 01:18:38,681 --> 01:18:41,050 - I mean, when he used to come into Warner Brothers records, 1654 01:18:41,150 --> 01:18:42,752 when he had the Tornados going, 1655 01:18:42,852 --> 01:18:44,888 and all the executives were like, 1656 01:18:44,988 --> 01:18:45,989 telling each other on the phone, 1657 01:18:46,089 --> 01:18:48,124 "Close your doors, Doug's in the building." 1658 01:18:49,325 --> 01:18:52,161 [Joe] So, it was different than most people back then? 1659 01:18:52,261 --> 01:18:55,899 - Yes! [laughing] 1660 01:18:57,100 --> 01:19:00,870 - Doug Sahm was different than most people. 1661 01:19:00,970 --> 01:19:04,240 - I'd just say that Doug was probably 1662 01:19:04,340 --> 01:19:07,243 the seminal musician of my generation. 1663 01:19:07,343 --> 01:19:08,912 - Doug Sahm, you listen to all those records, 1664 01:19:09,012 --> 01:19:10,579 and it's obvious that he was, 1665 01:19:10,679 --> 01:19:13,482 you know, incapable of following 1666 01:19:13,582 --> 01:19:16,052 anybody else's plan for him. 1667 01:19:16,152 --> 01:19:19,455 - Jerry Garcia said, "Man, I sure would like to play here," 1668 01:19:19,555 --> 01:19:22,025 and I'm just fluttered by it, 1669 01:19:22,125 --> 01:19:24,393 and he looks first, "Why don't we just wait 1670 01:19:24,493 --> 01:19:26,162 till Doug gets here?" he said, 1671 01:19:26,262 --> 01:19:29,098 "He needs to be the band leader of this thing, 1672 01:19:29,198 --> 01:19:32,135 he knows a thousand songs." 1673 01:19:32,235 --> 01:19:35,271 - A human jukebox, man, I mean, 1674 01:19:35,371 --> 01:19:37,773 he knew every damn, he knew every song, man. 1675 01:19:37,874 --> 01:19:41,077 - Doug would go in and out of a lot of the clubs 1676 01:19:41,177 --> 01:19:43,679 where the Hispanic garage groups were playing, 1677 01:19:43,779 --> 01:19:45,882 and the Hispanics just fell in love with him, 1678 01:19:45,982 --> 01:19:47,951 they forgot about his color, just, 1679 01:19:48,051 --> 01:19:51,888 it did not matter, they heard Doug was gonna play, 1680 01:19:51,988 --> 01:19:54,824 and they pumped it up like it was us. 1681 01:19:54,924 --> 01:19:57,726 - We found there were fans everywhere in Japan. 1682 01:19:57,827 --> 01:19:59,795 One time, there was a record store in Tokyo 1683 01:19:59,896 --> 01:20:02,431 called Groover's Paradise. 1684 01:20:02,531 --> 01:20:05,368 - Almost astounding to me 1685 01:20:05,468 --> 01:20:10,806 that he could be this famous, talented artist 1686 01:20:10,907 --> 01:20:14,543 and find a groove in everyday life, you know? 1687 01:20:14,643 --> 01:20:16,012 - Put his arm around me, he said, 1688 01:20:16,112 --> 01:20:18,414 "I want you to play on Soap Creek team," 1689 01:20:18,514 --> 01:20:21,684 you know, so it was like, well, you know, 1690 01:20:21,784 --> 01:20:25,688 t-shirts or free nights at Soap Creek? 1691 01:20:25,788 --> 01:20:28,557 I sold out to the highest bidder. 1692 01:20:28,657 --> 01:20:31,861 - We always say Doug was in search of the perfect taco, 1693 01:20:31,961 --> 01:20:34,130 and that's true. 1694 01:20:34,230 --> 01:20:36,632 He could only stay away from tacos for so long, 1695 01:20:36,732 --> 01:20:37,967 it was like a heroin addict. 1696 01:20:38,067 --> 01:20:39,768 - Man, he dragged me all over Louisiana 1697 01:20:39,869 --> 01:20:42,171 trying to find a boudin joint for a week 1698 01:20:42,271 --> 01:20:44,040 that he couldn't remember where it was, 1699 01:20:44,140 --> 01:20:45,808 and he wasn't just trying to do something, 1700 01:20:45,909 --> 01:20:46,910 he wasn't thinking with his head, 1701 01:20:47,010 --> 01:20:48,577 he was leading with his heart. 1702 01:20:48,677 --> 01:20:51,780 - Doug was kind of a, 1703 01:20:51,881 --> 01:20:55,384 he was like the, oh... 1704 01:20:58,854 --> 01:21:01,024 you might say revolutionary hero. 1705 01:21:01,124 --> 01:21:03,392 - Doug would just stand laughing with those guys, 1706 01:21:03,492 --> 01:21:04,961 and they're doing a floor show, but Doug, 1707 01:21:05,061 --> 01:21:06,795 you know what I mean, Doug would be doing this, 1708 01:21:06,896 --> 01:21:09,365 doing the splits on stage, [laughing] 1709 01:21:09,465 --> 01:21:12,101 you know, you're gonna break a leg or something. 1710 01:21:12,201 --> 01:21:13,869 [Joe] Who was this character? 1711 01:21:13,970 --> 01:21:14,837 Who was he? 1712 01:21:14,938 --> 01:21:18,942 - I could say it in three words. 1713 01:21:19,042 --> 01:21:21,911 I have my biological father, 1714 01:21:22,011 --> 01:21:25,048 he was my musical father. 1715 01:21:25,148 --> 01:21:27,883 - He enabled other people to be the best they could, 1716 01:21:27,984 --> 01:21:31,554 because he kept pulling it out of 'em. 1717 01:21:31,654 --> 01:21:34,190 - He made Freda and the Firedogs believe in ourselves 1718 01:21:34,290 --> 01:21:38,494 I think in a way that we weren't 1719 01:21:38,594 --> 01:21:42,798 grasping and taking in, 1720 01:21:42,898 --> 01:21:45,068 into our souls at that point. 1721 01:21:45,168 --> 01:21:48,237 - What Daddy taught us is, um... 1722 01:21:49,638 --> 01:21:50,573 "be real". 1723 01:21:50,673 --> 01:21:52,541 - I don't know that a Doug Sahm 1724 01:21:52,641 --> 01:21:54,743 could ever break through today, 1725 01:21:54,843 --> 01:21:58,547 because it's just, 1726 01:21:58,647 --> 01:22:00,183 it's so improbable. 1727 01:22:00,283 --> 01:22:02,318 - How did I ever come out of the west side of the barrio, 1728 01:22:02,418 --> 01:22:05,588 ended up in the Arctic Circle of Finland, 1729 01:22:05,688 --> 01:22:07,056 you know what I'm saying? 1730 01:22:07,156 --> 01:22:09,792 - I don't think there'll ever be another Doug Sahm, 1731 01:22:09,892 --> 01:22:12,595 and I've looked out there for him, 1732 01:22:12,695 --> 01:22:13,963 and I can't find him, you know? 1733 01:22:14,063 --> 01:22:16,165 - I mean, he was put on this earth 1734 01:22:16,265 --> 01:22:18,968 like a Texas tornado that he was, 1735 01:22:19,068 --> 01:22:21,104 came in, left us all this beautiful, 1736 01:22:21,204 --> 01:22:23,939 great body of work and music, 1737 01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:25,441 and went, "I'm out of here." 132806

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