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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,902 --> 00:00:03,637 [SI] 2 00:00:12,579 --> 00:00:15,949 | went to law school. | was working on Wall Street. 3 00:00:16,116 --> 00:00:20,387 Ane Julia was working ror a tledgling new company called First Artist. 4 00:00:20,654 --> 00:00:24,157 Ane she met and loecame iriencs with Tony Bill. 5 00:00:24,324 --> 00:00:26,760 Tony had a vision. And he was telling us... 6 00:00:26,927 --> 00:00:31,398 Liat tere are alll these incividualls COM MOROUO MITES CNOO/s 7 00:00:31,565 --> 00:00:34,701 ane MODody will read their scripts or take them seriously. 8 00:00:34,868 --> 00:00:37,37 And one of the things iat Ne Came ACTOSS... 9 00:00:37,204 --> 00:00:41,108 L WAS an idea for a movie AloOu CON Men... 10 00:00:41,308 --> 00:00:43,844 ,. Oy a USC film student, Davicl Ward. 11 00:00:44,11 --> 00:00:45,779 Well, of course, this was le Sting. 12 00:00:45,946 --> 00:00:50,651 And we cdecicied to pool alll our money and try to do this ourselves. 13 00:00:52,52 --> 00:00:55,88 When we arrived in Hollywood, the door had opened a crack... 14 00:00:55,255 --> 00:00:56,723 ,.OSSloly because of Easy Rider. 15 00:00:56,890 --> 00:01:01,562 Flollywood iin the "60s had lbeen struggling and the conclusion was... 16 00:01:01,728 --> 00:01:06,633 ANEYVOS WE SNOUlG Step back a loft and let some of these young kids... 17 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,702 AKG 4 SHO whi what they like: 18 00:01:11,38 --> 00:01:15,375 Brian DePalma lived next coor to Julia anc | out at tine 19 00:01:15,542 --> 00:01:18,512 We lived norta of Mallilou in a place called Trancas. 20 00:01:18,679 --> 00:01:24,51 And lae was living with Margot Kidder and at one point he said to me... 21 00:01:24,217 --> 00:01:26,920 -lNere WAS & journalist who was doing 2 story on him... 22 00:01:27,87 --> 00:01:29,957 L-wino hac writen a Script, this was Paul Scaracier. 23 00:01:30,123 --> 00:01:34,528 And he cheln't like it tor linsel out Ae thought it would appeal to me. 24 00:01:34,728 --> 00:01:39,933 SO AS gave me the Script and | instantly fell in love with it, 25 00:01:40,100 --> 00:01:44,237 BICKLE: | dont believe that one should clevote his life to monoid sel-atiention, 26 00:01:44,404 --> 00:01:47,908 | believe that someone shoule! become a person like other people: 27 00:01:48,75 --> 00:01:49,743 [GUNFIRE] 28 00:01:51,645 --> 00:01:54,381 PIFIILLIPS: This was, | guess, the summer of 73. 29 00:01:54,548 --> 00:01:56,383 Wien | read tine seript..4 30 00:01:56,550 --> 00:02:00,420 and reallly loved tt and wanted to get involved: 31 00:02:00,587 --> 00:02:02,823 And! orougint it to my pariners...4 32 00:02:02,990 --> 00:02:08,528 , and paid Paul the sum off $1000 for an option. 33 00:02:10,230 --> 00:02:12,699 ere Were ASOSCKS tO Itt. 34 00:02:14,601 --> 00:02:18,872 You know, loeing into the soul Of a man in pain... 35 00:02:19,39 --> 00:02:22,342 ald Glinpsing, through lAls cary... 36 00:02:22,542 --> 00:02:25,912 ne MeGNanism through which= 37 00:02:26,79 --> 00:02:31,451 niow he Sees Ire and how Ine arrives at his decisions was fascinating. 38 00:02:31,618 --> 00:02:37,557 And also winat || love was tine= We had to fight to keep this. 39 00:02:37,724 --> 00:02:39,893 ne Ideg at tne end. 40 00:02:40,60 --> 00:02:44,64 linet the difiierence loSuween & hero and 2 monster... 41 00:02:44,231 --> 00:02:49,503 AS SUCH @ Tine line that It's whoever happens to be interpreting... 42 00:02:49,670 --> 00:02:53,06 L ~AWhOSVErsS tie first ONS to Say, "This is what happened"... 43 00:02:53,340 --> 00:02:54,508 L clevines Ii. 44 00:02:55,142 --> 00:02:56,977 BICKLE: June Sin 45 00:02:57,144 --> 00:02:59,112 My Ine has taken another tum again. 46 00:03:00,213 --> 00:03:03,650 Ine days move along wit regularity, over and! Over... 47 00:03:03,817 --> 00:03:05,519 One day incisiunguishalle rom the Next 48 00:03:06,486 --> 00:03:08,221 A long, continuous chain: 49 00:03:09,189 --> 00:03:10,891 And then suddenly... 50 00:03:11,58 --> 00:03:13,393 Alera IS Change. 51 00:03:13,927 --> 00:03:17,531 PHILLIPS: Problem was that it wasnt The Sting: 52 00:03:17,731 --> 00:03:20,367 (ne Sting was a classic Elollywood movie. 53 00:03:20,534 --> 00:03:24,271 BUK It certainly wasn't disturoing like Jag Driver. 54 00:03:24,438 --> 00:03:28,775 And winen we took it out to try to put it togettier... 55 00:03:28,942 --> 00:03:32,679 Very Studio, wed wall In the coor and they'd say, "What do you got?” 56 00:03:32,846 --> 00:03:36,650 We were greeted with a lot of negative response, 57 00:03:36,817 --> 00:03:40,487 BICKLE: | hope this care! finds you all well, as it does me. 58 00:03:40,654 --> 00:03:43,857 / hope nO One has cliec!: Dont worry about me. 59 00:03:44,257 --> 00:03:47,661 One day there will be a knock on the door and it] be me. 60 00:03:49,229 --> 00:03:50,330 [SI] 61 00:03:54,735 --> 00:03:57,304 PHILLIPS: One day, Paul Schrader said: 62 00:03:57,471 --> 00:03:59,973 “YOU ave tO See this movie, Mean Streets. 63 00:04:00,140 --> 00:04:03,343 There's 2 rough cut screening next week. | can get you in.” 64 00:04:03,510 --> 00:04:08,315 We went to the screening and | remember midway through, | was sold 65 00:04:08,482 --> 00:04:10,617 And, you know, talked to Julia and said: 66 00:04:10,784 --> 00:04:14,721 Not only do we want this cirector out we want that actor.” 67 00:04:14,888 --> 00:04:18,692 SCrINADERS We saw this cut of Mean Streets] 68 00:04:18,859 --> 00:04:24,464 And | remenioer talking to Julia, saying, "Boy, it should= 69 00:04:24,631 --> 00:04:26,767 Travis Bickle, that’s reallly De INiro! 70 00:04:26,933 --> 00:04:29,703 It should be Bobby." 71 00:04:30,537 --> 00:04:32,706 [SI] 72 00:04:38,211 --> 00:04:41,948 PIRILLIPS: So aitier the screening was over, we said to Marty... 73 00:04:42,115 --> 00:04:47,53 WO Wanted to offer this project to the two of them, tied together. 74 00:04:47,220 --> 00:04:52,826 And tiney loth liked tt, they both wanted to do it. 75 00:04:52,993 --> 00:04:54,861 SCrINADERS Still it was cifficullt, 76 00:04:55,28 --> 00:04:56,963 We all pac] to mest... 77 00:04:57,130 --> 00:05:01,67 rlave 2 Measure Of SUCCESS pefore it could get financed. 78 00:05:01,935 --> 00:05:06,673 Ane! we alll! cid. AN MOUMOMUSHNACKAESUICeeSss 79 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:08,575 POrmunately, it alll worked io our loenerit. 80 00:05:08,742 --> 00:05:10,844 BECAUSS Overy inne Wwe Wwoulc lose them... 81 00:05:11,11 --> 00:05:12,445 _.-miey o GO do something wondenrul, 82 00:05:12,612 --> 00:05:14,548 Marty cid Alice Doesnt Live Here Anymore. 83 00:05:14,714 --> 00:05:19,252 BODDY SACIed UP CONG ihe Godfather I) and winning an Oscar. 84 00:05:19,452 --> 00:05:22,322 | see Jax Driver as Something that became a bargain. 85 00:05:22,522 --> 00:05:24,257 David Begelman was tne heac of the studio, 86 00:05:24,424 --> 00:05:26,359 lim reallly gratetul iat He tinanced tie (ila, 87 00:05:26,526 --> 00:05:29,296 At some level as 2 businessman, AS thought... 88 00:05:29,462 --> 00:05:31,298 -GSnng wis GUY WAO won an Academy Award... 89 00:05:31,464 --> 00:05:32,933 L ano 2 igientoc oyrector4 90 00:05:33,99 --> 00:05:36,903 Really, it just rlpened. It’s like a plece of fruit: 91 00:05:37,70 --> 00:05:39,840 It Got, at ONS POINtt, it Got to be attractive. 92 00:05:40,06 --> 00:05:43,543 -Wait a second, | wanna tallk to you. Look, | have to go. 93 00:05:44,211 --> 00:05:46,279 [SI] 94 00:05:47,514 --> 00:05:49,249 PHILLIPS: We couldn't onier then 4 Siar date... 95 00:05:49,416 --> 00:05:51,818 ,--SO We Cont want to lose Marty for 2 Veal... 96 00:05:51,985 --> 00:05:55,121 -- ASCAUSS & lot can happen, all of it bad, if you wait a year. 97 00:05:55,322 --> 00:05:57,958 Marty had! to delay again because AS was gonna do 2 project... 98 00:05:58,124 --> 00:06:00,93 wit Marion Srando gloout Indians: 99 00:06:00,260 --> 00:06:03,763 This was a traumatic time for the Jax? Driver team. 100 00:06:03,930 --> 00:06:07,534 Fie was ducking me and | was chasing him around town: 101 00:06:07,701 --> 00:06:12,539 Leaving Notes On his Car, trying to guilttrip hina tinto... 102 00:06:12,739 --> 00:06:14,174 LAO doing the Indian movie, 103 00:06:14,341 --> 00:06:16,576 Everyoody got availalole, the budget was right... 104 00:06:16,743 --> 00:06:19,980 And we had a lite ont of a honeymoon with Columbia...: 105 00:06:20,146 --> 00:06:23,817 , WOCAUSS We had just orouglt them Close Encounters... 106 00:06:24,651 --> 00:06:27,20 .WnIGh they were In Competition with another stuciio... 107 00:06:27,187 --> 00:06:28,755 LAG WO Gave it to them. 108 00:06:28,922 --> 00:06:32,125 SO just ON that daly, everything lit green... 109 00:06:32,325 --> 00:06:35,528 and we Got a yes trom Columioia. 110 00:06:35,729 --> 00:06:37,530 | got some bad ideas in my lInead. 111 00:06:38,198 --> 00:06:40,33 -lake your hands oft -Okay, just leave. 112 00:06:41,501 --> 00:06:43,470 [SI] 113 00:06:44,204 --> 00:06:45,906 PHILLIPS: It was my baloy. 114 00:06:46,72 --> 00:06:49,643 | had to fight tor tt anc oe with it every step of the way. 115 00:06:49,809 --> 00:06:53,680 It was my role in our parmnershlp to los the on-set producer. 116 00:06:53,847 --> 00:06:57,717 It was Not a favored picture at Columioia., 117 00:06:57,918 --> 00:06:59,886 There was just remencous amount or heat... 118 00:07:00,53 --> 00:07:02,956 and I'm glad we were SAooung in New York loecause... 119 00:07:03,123 --> 00:07:06,660 Liat 3000 miles kind of saved us..J 120 00:07:07,60 --> 00:07:09,62 | Om) toO MUCH Intervention, 121 00:07:10,764 --> 00:07:12,565 [SI] 122 00:07:18,638 --> 00:07:21,574 | do wnatever | can cdo to help we director... 123 00:07:21,741 --> 00:07:23,710 AAKe tie best tilm he's capalole of. 124 00:07:25,78 --> 00:07:27,314 In this case with Marty, there were NO SUMPTISeS... 125 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,416 , -SCBUSS alll through preparalion..4 126 00:07:29,582 --> 00:07:34,554 we knew what the approach was going to be, in every sequence. 127 00:07:34,721 --> 00:07:38,925 You know, tor instance, the gun salesman, Steve Prince... 128 00:07:39,92 --> 00:07:42,862 -€] triend or Marty's, and this is a case where Marty... 129 00:07:43,29 --> 00:07:46,833 .. allowed the actor tO Go & lot of improvisation. 130 00:07:47,00 --> 00:07:48,535 131 00:07:48,702 --> 00:07:51,671 cs a premium, lhigh-resale weapon. 132 00:07:52,939 --> 00:07:55,742 PHILLIPS: rie wasn't an actor, | was nervous, 133 00:07:55,909 --> 00:07:56,910 ANNIDY ookdaiaunaie 134 00:07:57,77 --> 00:08:00,246 PHILLIPS: You know, lhe was a iirienc of the Gdirector’s ancl this 135 00:08:00,413 --> 00:08:02,515 Didnt have a lot in the way of screen credits... 136 00:08:02,682 --> 00:08:08,88 and nad to hold his own in 2 One-on-one scene with Bobby. 137 00:08:08,288 --> 00:08:11,57 ANDY: Tlhres-iitty tor the Magnum, 250) for te .33. 138 00:08:11,224 --> 00:08:13,326 PHILLIPS: But Marty knew something aloout Steven Prince... 139 00:08:13,526 --> 00:08:15,28 and what Ae could get out of lim. 140 00:08:15,195 --> 00:08:19,366 And ne knew that it would oe an unpredictable, surorising perionniance. 141 00:08:19,532 --> 00:08:22,535 rlow about dope? Grass? Hash? Coke? 142 00:08:22,736 --> 00:08:26,740 Nembutal? Tuinal? Chiloral hydrates? 143 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,376 [SI] 144 00:08:30,243 --> 00:08:32,746 Its more than | hac hoped it would bbe. | loved the script. 145 00:08:32,946 --> 00:08:37,684 But Marty orought another layer to it that only he could bring. 146 00:08:37,851 --> 00:08:42,322 And | love the fact that people, Still to this day... 147 00:08:42,489 --> 00:08:44,624 OW) YEARS laner... 148 00:08:44,791 --> 00:08:50,363 talk aloout it, are Intluenced loy it, single it out as a film... 149 00:08:50,530 --> 00:08:51,631 L One Of tigelr favoriiies, 150 00:08:51,798 --> 00:08:57,70 Ane! || ope that it inspires filmmakers... 151 00:08:57,937 --> 00:09:00,740 . WO loreak new boundaries and go for... 152 00:09:00,907 --> 00:09:02,776 Something that is not a tormula, 153 00:09:02,942 --> 00:09:08,715 It violates a lot of traciiional rules of screenwriting and moviemaking. 154 00:09:09,816 --> 00:09:13,253 But | think that ir you work with your heart... 155 00:09:13,420 --> 00:09:16,156 o2eAlS OPPOSSA to= A little lone from your head to stay on track! 156 00:09:16,322 --> 00:09:18,558 Out if the primary inpulse is coming from your heart... 157 00:09:18,725 --> 00:09:20,927 --- VOU have the GAance of creating something... 158 00:09:21,94 --> 00:09:24,531 nat people reallly teel and will be atiiected by. 159 00:09:26,366 --> 00:09:28,334 [SI] 12666

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