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itv
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Come on, in.
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I never hit your mum.
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As your father, I thought
you might already know the answer.
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He said he'd seen Eliot
climbing into the house
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through a first-floor window.
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Tell me the truth, Eliot,
or I can't continue to protect you.
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I was driving. I hit something
and I went out to look for it
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and I couldn't find anything.
That's it.
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I'm losing the plot.
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You're tired.
It just makes everything seem worse.
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Any sensitive stuff inside?
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Jesus, there's one site here
that's found a photo of him.
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If you need to take me off the case,
I'll understand completely.
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For the record,
I very much want to stay.
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Urgh!
Peter Carr's died.
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And I am sorry you're going through
whatever it is you're going through.
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I love you, sweetheart.
I swear,
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I didn't hurt Hayley Reid.
I never even met her.
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When might the police know
that you're not a suspect any more?
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I don't know.
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If she encountered anyone, the
more likely it would be Tim Finch.
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The ticket was issued at 6:20am,
six miles outside of Middenham.
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Timothy Finch, I'm arresting you
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on suspicion of the murder
of Hayley Reid.
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We have authority
to search your premises
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under Section 32 of the Police
And Criminal Evidence Act.
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In his cellar we found a necklace
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with hair still attached
to the clasp,
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a scrunchie and a pair of knickers.
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♪ All you do is hide away ♪
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♪ All you do is ♪
♪ All you do is hide away ♪
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♪ All you do is lie and wait ♪
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♪ All you do is ♪
♪ All you do is lie and wait ♪
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♪ I've been upside down ♪
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♪ I don't wanna be ♪
♪ The right way round ♪
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♪ Can't find paradise ♪
♪ On the ground. ♪
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*UNFORGOTTEN*
Season 03 Episode 06
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*UNFORGOTTEN*
Episode Title: "Episode #3.6"
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That's a lot of manpower.
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And really, what are you even hoping
to find 18 years on?
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I don't-I don't know.
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But this has to be the most likely
location of her murder.
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And Middenham Woods, near the
Spinney, have never been searched.
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- This can't end like the Walker case.
- It won't.
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I'll see what Hampshire
will give us.
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Thank you, sir.
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You don't have to make every call.
I am here, you know.
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Thank you, it's just...
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- Hello?
- Hi. Is that Jess?
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- Yes.
- Jess, it's Cass Stuart.
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There's been a development
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and we wondered how you and,
or your mum...
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..would feel about
coming up to London this afternoon.
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Can we just cut to the chase here?
What are you saying?
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That you think Dad
is some sort of psychopath
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and the police have got
the right man?
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I don't know. I just...
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I saw something in Mum's eyes
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- that I've never seen before.
- Oh, please
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And I believed her, Claire.
I'm sorry, but I did.
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It happens, you know?
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I've read stories in the paper,
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where people turn out to have
completely hidden other lives.
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It happens.
It does.
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But just because
your ex turned out
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to be a lying, cheating,
evil bastard,
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it doesn't mean that all men are,
Emma.
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Carol, is there anything
in what I'm saying
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that sets off any alarm bells?
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Is there any reason
you can think of
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that the police would be
so interested in our father?
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No.
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I think you're lying.
I think you know something.
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- I think you should go.
- Carol, we need
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- to know.
- No! We
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should be pulling together,
not exorcising personal demons.
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So, just go.
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Em, please, just go.
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Hi, it's Eliot.
Leave a message.
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Hi, this is Amy.
Please leave a...
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Do you remember our theatre trips
to London?
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We used to love those.
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Mama Mia, Miss Saigon...
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That brilliant thing
at the Royal Court.
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Oh, my God,
with all the swearing!
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Yeah, that's why we loved it.
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Did we go for milkshakes afterwards?
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Hales did that frothy lip thing
she used to do.
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We were all in hysterics.
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I'm so sorry, Jessie...
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..for your loss.
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Well, the box is mine.
And I've had it decades.
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Since I was a kid, I think.
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It's more what was inside
that we're interested in.
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Well, I think I bought the necklace
and the scrunchy
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at a fete we went to in Middenham,
as presents for the girls.
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A fete at New Year?
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Oh, sorry, no. I don't mean
the millennium holiday.
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We went back down there
several times over the years,
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just me and the girls,
after Derran and I separated.
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Right.
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And do you remember
which holiday
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you think
you might have bought them?
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Not really.
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But it was a fete,
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so it's most likely the summer one,
which was,
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erm... a year and half
after the millennium holiday, so...
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..2001.
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And what, you bought the...
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..necklace and the scrunchy
together?
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I don't remember.
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Why do you think
these where all in this box, then,
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in your cellar,
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with the knickers?
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I mean, I can offer you
an explanation.
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But given why I'm here, I suspect
you'll find it rather far-fetched.
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Try me.
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Well,
the girls often used old knickers
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to tie their hair back,
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if they didn't have a band
or a scrunchy.
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It was a sort of family joke.
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But it also meant
that they often got, erm...
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..just grouped together
in various places around the house.
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So...
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..I'm guessing, that I...
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..forgot to give the presents
to the girls
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and then, at some point, all this
stuff just got put in this box
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and then tidied away downstairs.
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I'm sorry,
that's all I can offer you.
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Do you understand
why these objects might concern us?
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I think so, yes.
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Because they...
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..they look like trophies to us.
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I understand your thinking.
But, please...
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..let me assure you,
these can't be Hayley Reid's...
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..for the very simple reason
that I never met Hayley Reid.
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Mila!
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Mila!
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It's me!
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Where is West End
Central Police Station?
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- Yeah, just down there on the right.
- Thank you.
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If, at any point, you want to stop,
just say the word.
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I think it's very unlikely
this was Hayley's.
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OK.
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I know she had long hair
in the missing posters...
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..but that was just
the most recent photo we had of her.
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Cos, actually, about three weeks
before she disappeared,
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she had her hair cut in to a bob,
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so she wouldn't have been wearing
a scrunchy.
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Right.
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OK. No problem.
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No.
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I don't think so. I....
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- No, I don't think they were hers.
- OK.
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Hayley was
all about colour and fun.
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She would have never worn knickers
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- like these...
- OK.
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And lastly...
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I'm sorry.
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I don't recognise that, either.
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Aside from neither of us
recognising it,
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Um, Hayley was
a pretty devout atheist.
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I never saw her wearing a cross.
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I'm sorry, it's... No, it's nothing
to be sorry about, nothing at all.
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So, is there other stuff
with this man?
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Like, are you near,
do you think?
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I don't want to give you false hope,
Jess,
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but...
I do feel we're near, yes.
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Now... we just need to find
that concrete link.
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- OK.
- Hard evidence.
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Well, we have faith in you.
You know that, don't you?
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And I appreciate it
very much.
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I'll call you.
Yeah.
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Thank you.
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I wore a crucifix
when I was 16
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cos Axl Rose wore one.
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I'd never been inside a church
in my life.
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- Absolutely. We test the lot.
- Yeah.
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Please leave a message at the tone.
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Hey, do you want to give your mum
a fucking ring sometime?
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Mrs Faruk?
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Hello. So all the officers from the
Landmark case have left for the day.
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But I can leave a message for them
to call you.
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Will they be in tomorrow?
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I don't
know their movements, I'm afraid.
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- But if I take your...
- I'll come back tomorrow.
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I need to see them face to face.
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Thank you.
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The results of the tests
have come through.
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And?
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They're not Hayley Reid's.
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Oh, for...
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But they have found a match.
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What do you mean,
they've found a match?
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What match?
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To the DNA of a 14-year-old girl
called Alison Baldwin,
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who went missing in June 1997.
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Her body was found
two days later,
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in woodland, minus underwear.
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She'd been raped and strangled.
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So, like Hayley, Alison
disappeared on a walk through woods
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flanking a small village
six miles from Cambridge.
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She was found in undergrowth...
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..by a police search two days later.
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Her father's dead now.
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But her mum, who I just spoke to
on the phone, is going to come up
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to have a look at the items
we found in Finch's house.
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So my guess, if he's smart,
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he'll still say that he bought these
items at a Middenham summer fete.
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And he's just the innocent victim
of a coincidence.
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Which is, obviously,
very hard to believe,
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but which a defence
could certainly argue was possible.
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So, what we need, what I need,
from you...
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..is to find other connections
between him and Alison Baldwin.
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I believe they exist,
because I believe, in my gut,
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that Finch killed them both.
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The files that we collated when
we were trying to identify Hayley,
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- have they gone back yet?
- All still here.
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Good.
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And can we get a message out
to all forces
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for information
on all murders with a similar MO
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of females between the ages of 14...
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..and 20...
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..from 1975...
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..to the present day.
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We want to know about
every unsolved case,
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whether there's any
remaining forensic evidence.
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Yeah. Erm...
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You've all seen Hayley's family.
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And we'll meet Alison's
later today.
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So... So you'll know
what their lives been reduced to.
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Let's find this evidence for them.
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OK, guys, heads down.
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Let's get cracking.
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Guv!
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I've found something!
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What does the name Alison Baldwin
mean to you?
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Nothing. Why?
What should it mean?
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Well, I'd have thought something.
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The items we recovered
from your cellar belonged to her.
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Oh, OK. Erm...
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Well, before she
gave them
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to whoever sold them at the fete,
you mean.
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Well, let's discuss that, shall we?
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Because we don't believe you did
buy them at a fete. Except, I did.
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It's just that that would be
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a fairly astonishing coincidence,
wouldn't it,
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that we're interviewing you
in connection with one murder
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and then we find items
in your possession
251
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that connect you to another?
252
00:15:55,994 --> 00:16:00,024
Alison Baldwin was raped
and murdered, also in woodland,
253
00:16:00,101 --> 00:16:03,442
about two and a half years
before Hayley died.
254
00:16:03,729 --> 00:16:08,379
And the one common thread, between
these two tragic deaths, is you.
255
00:16:09,338 --> 00:16:12,301
Except, you don't have a connection
between me and Hayley.
256
00:16:13,627 --> 00:16:18,215
Listen, I bought those objects
in Middenham at a fete.
257
00:16:18,502 --> 00:16:22,277
If Hayley's killer
lived in Middenham, then...
258
00:16:22,416 --> 00:16:25,057
..maybe he killed this other girl,
too,
259
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and then donated these objects
to the fete at some point.
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OK, well,
let's leave that there for now.
261
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One other thing
we wanted to run past you...
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Your Audi A4, the one that you drove
to Middenham in on 3rd January.
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00:16:42,487 --> 00:16:46,699
Why do you think that we've found
a spare wheel for an A4,
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00:16:46,776 --> 00:16:49,394
and corresponding boot casing,
in woodland,
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00:16:49,471 --> 00:16:51,805
near the National Trust car park
behind The Spinney?
266
00:16:51,882 --> 00:16:53,205
No idea.
267
00:16:53,627 --> 00:16:55,989
They weren't from your car?
No.
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00:16:56,066 --> 00:16:57,026
Oh.
269
00:16:57,103 --> 00:17:00,152
We think they were. We think you
dumped them there 18 years ago,
270
00:17:00,229 --> 00:17:03,388
in order to make the space in
the boot to conceal Hayley's body.
271
00:17:03,989 --> 00:17:06,792
I've told you why I went down there.
272
00:17:06,869 --> 00:17:08,616
Yeah, you have, Tim,
and we think that's a lie.
273
00:17:08,693 --> 00:17:10,165
And here's the thing...
274
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We've tracked down that car.
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00:17:12,401 --> 00:17:13,901
Your A4.
276
00:17:14,213 --> 00:17:16,694
And it has a spare wheel
and it has the boot casing.
277
00:17:16,771 --> 00:17:19,035
But my guess is
they're both replacements.
278
00:17:19,112 --> 00:17:21,905
And if they are, what do you think
we're going to find underneath them,
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when we remove them later on
in our lab?
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00:17:24,658 --> 00:17:27,542
Cos I don't think
you ever considered the possibility
281
00:17:27,619 --> 00:17:30,145
that that car would be found,
let alone searched.
282
00:17:30,313 --> 00:17:34,761
And I doubt very much
you cleaned it methodically.
283
00:17:34,838 --> 00:17:37,465
And if it's remained sealed
since then
284
00:17:37,542 --> 00:17:40,496
and Hayley's body was kept in there,
285
00:17:40,573 --> 00:17:42,908
there might still be
some forensic evidence.
286
00:17:42,985 --> 00:17:47,583
Hair, carpet fibres from her house,
maybe dried blood.
287
00:17:48,211 --> 00:17:50,071
Stuff we can check.
288
00:17:51,347 --> 00:17:53,351
- Anything to say to that?
- Nothing.
289
00:17:53,428 --> 00:17:56,396
Apart from the fact
that it's rubbish. So, check away.
290
00:17:56,846 --> 00:18:00,443
OK, let's go back to Alison Baldwin.
You say you've never heard of her.
291
00:18:01,214 --> 00:18:03,012
I haven't, I'm afraid.
292
00:18:03,089 --> 00:18:05,344
Where were you working in 1997?
293
00:18:07,673 --> 00:18:08,913
Er...
294
00:18:09,113 --> 00:18:10,916
Crowborough.
Right.
295
00:18:10,993 --> 00:18:12,876
A long way from Earlridge.
296
00:18:12,953 --> 00:18:15,658
What's Earlridge?
Well, I'll tell you.
297
00:18:23,695 --> 00:18:28,143
So, I'm showing the suspect
item 005.
298
00:18:29,203 --> 00:18:31,590
That's a black desk diary.
299
00:18:31,667 --> 00:18:33,259
It's dated 1997.
300
00:18:33,336 --> 00:18:35,075
Do you recognise this diary, Tim?
301
00:18:35,152 --> 00:18:38,689
Maybe. It looks like the sort
I've used in the past.
302
00:18:38,766 --> 00:18:40,825
Well, it looks like it
because it is, in fact, yours.
303
00:18:40,902 --> 00:18:43,377
We found it in a storage room
in your surgery.
304
00:18:46,047 --> 00:18:48,885
Read out to me the entry dated...
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00:18:49,164 --> 00:18:53,314
..Wednesday, June 25th, 1977.
306
00:19:02,063 --> 00:19:03,392
"Conference.
307
00:19:03,469 --> 00:19:06,507
"Pain management protocols
for chronic conditions."
308
00:19:06,584 --> 00:19:08,095
So this was a conference,
309
00:19:08,172 --> 00:19:10,629
run by a pharmaceutical company,
that you attended.
310
00:19:10,706 --> 00:19:12,582
And there's an arrow in your diary,
311
00:19:12,659 --> 00:19:15,518
indicating that you were there
for two nights.
312
00:19:15,718 --> 00:19:17,449
If you say so.
313
00:19:17,649 --> 00:19:19,650
Can you remember where it was?
No.
314
00:19:19,742 --> 00:19:21,611
Well, it was in Cambridgeshire.
315
00:19:21,774 --> 00:19:26,072
It was in a hotel,
which you also stayed at...
316
00:19:26,149 --> 00:19:29,752
..about five miles
outside of Cambridge itself,
317
00:19:29,836 --> 00:19:32,994
in a small village called Earlridge.
318
00:19:33,110 --> 00:19:37,671
Now, you were there on the nights
of the 25th and the 26th.
319
00:19:37,748 --> 00:19:39,438
And it was on the night of the 26th
320
00:19:39,515 --> 00:19:42,488
that a young girl called Alison
Baldwin went missing in woods,
321
00:19:42,565 --> 00:19:46,604
200 yards from the hotel,
on her way to choir practice.
322
00:19:49,336 --> 00:19:53,533
So, I spoke to the CPS
earlier today...
323
00:19:53,852 --> 00:19:56,961
..to discuss the evidence available.
324
00:19:57,141 --> 00:20:01,532
And it's my belief now,
despite the answers you've given us,
325
00:20:01,609 --> 00:20:03,739
that we have reached
the threshold test
326
00:20:03,816 --> 00:20:06,057
to charge you with both murders.
327
00:20:07,008 --> 00:20:08,330
So don't you think it's time
328
00:20:08,407 --> 00:20:13,087
you gave Hayley and Alison's family
some... comfort
329
00:20:13,164 --> 00:20:16,752
and let them know
what happened to their children?
330
00:20:18,524 --> 00:20:20,799
Can't you just do that for them now?
331
00:20:29,047 --> 00:20:31,345
I'd like a cup of tea, please.
332
00:20:34,469 --> 00:20:36,799
And then maybe...
333
00:20:37,924 --> 00:20:40,184
..I'll go through it all with you.
334
00:20:41,755 --> 00:20:43,735
These girls.
335
00:20:44,801 --> 00:20:46,409
Go through what?
336
00:20:46,766 --> 00:20:49,030
What you just asked for,
what happened to them.
337
00:20:49,107 --> 00:20:50,635
How they died.
338
00:20:52,742 --> 00:20:55,161
Just to be clear, Tim,
339
00:20:55,578 --> 00:20:58,118
are you admitting you did kill them?
340
00:20:58,278 --> 00:21:00,061
Both of them?
341
00:21:03,523 --> 00:21:04,763
I am.
342
00:21:05,742 --> 00:21:10,210
And if we can do this properly...
343
00:21:10,539 --> 00:21:13,174
..if we can do this with respect...
344
00:21:14,633 --> 00:21:20,572
..if we can avoid turning it all
into some sort of sordid circus...
345
00:21:24,781 --> 00:21:27,861
..I'll tell you where the others
are buried, too.
346
00:21:54,103 --> 00:21:56,894
He was always such a vulnerable boy.
347
00:21:56,971 --> 00:21:59,785
Since way before that holiday.
348
00:22:00,674 --> 00:22:04,065
And who knows why things go awry
in the end?
349
00:22:04,142 --> 00:22:06,837
It could have been
because of what happened that night.
350
00:22:06,914 --> 00:22:11,287
Also, equally, it could have been
a thousand other slings and arrows.
351
00:22:11,364 --> 00:22:14,793
Self-inflicted or just... life.
352
00:22:15,525 --> 00:22:18,012
But you did what you did...
353
00:22:18,150 --> 00:22:20,582
..because you loved him.
354
00:22:21,525 --> 00:22:24,426
Love... him.
355
00:22:25,723 --> 00:22:27,392
As do I.
356
00:22:28,029 --> 00:22:29,549
Madly.
357
00:22:29,947 --> 00:22:32,097
And you wanted to protect him.
358
00:22:33,353 --> 00:22:37,433
God knows, being a parent makes
you do stupid things sometimes.
359
00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:39,590
I just want to say...
360
00:22:40,596 --> 00:22:45,160
..please don't destroy yourself
over this.
361
00:22:46,111 --> 00:22:47,828
He's 33.
362
00:22:48,189 --> 00:22:52,108
It's time he tried to start
to own his own life now.
363
00:22:52,185 --> 00:22:53,938
His own mistakes.
364
00:22:54,782 --> 00:22:56,641
And we have to let him.
365
00:22:56,718 --> 00:23:00,036
So I'm not going to call him
for a bit.
366
00:23:00,113 --> 00:23:02,453
Maybe you want to do the same.
367
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,035
I mean, obviously, it's up to you.
368
00:23:09,971 --> 00:23:11,680
Is Amy coming back?
369
00:23:11,757 --> 00:23:13,308
I don't know.
370
00:23:14,486 --> 00:23:17,198
I'd have to change.
Yeah.
371
00:23:17,275 --> 00:23:20,176
Well,
you might want to consider that.
372
00:23:21,041 --> 00:23:22,972
I think she's a good 'un.
373
00:23:24,221 --> 00:23:26,277
Look after yourself.
374
00:23:27,192 --> 00:23:28,510
Mel...
375
00:23:30,261 --> 00:23:31,596
Thank you.
376
00:23:41,612 --> 00:23:44,050
I can't even
begin to imagine
377
00:23:44,127 --> 00:23:46,187
how you must feel right now.
378
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,965
And the only...
379
00:23:49,189 --> 00:23:53,441
..consolation I can offer you
is that I promise you, I promise
380
00:23:53,597 --> 00:23:58,262
we will make sure
that he is never again allowed...
381
00:23:58,887 --> 00:24:00,907
..to hurt anyone...
382
00:24:01,611 --> 00:24:04,355
..the way he hurt Hayley and you.
383
00:24:11,033 --> 00:24:14,934
Having consulted with the Crown
Prosecution Service earlier today,
384
00:24:15,011 --> 00:24:18,928
and following a devoted
and superbly focused investigation,
385
00:24:19,005 --> 00:24:21,033
led by DCI Cassie Stuart,
386
00:24:21,110 --> 00:24:24,251
I can now confirm
that a 59-year-old man
387
00:24:24,328 --> 00:24:27,733
has been charged with the murder
of Hayley Louise Reid
388
00:24:27,810 --> 00:24:30,487
on December 31st, 1999.
389
00:24:30,564 --> 00:24:32,307
Timothy Colin Finch,
390
00:24:32,384 --> 00:24:35,620
of Baynham Road, Hamhurst, Sussex,
391
00:24:35,697 --> 00:24:39,899
has also been charged with the
murder of Alison Bethany Baldwin
392
00:24:39,976 --> 00:24:43,247
on 26th June, 1997,
393
00:24:43,324 --> 00:24:47,269
and he will appear at Marylebone
Magistrates' Court tomorrow morning.
394
00:24:47,767 --> 00:24:51,589
Tonight, he remains in custody
at Bishop Street Station,
395
00:24:51,666 --> 00:24:53,756
where he will continue
to be questioned
396
00:24:53,833 --> 00:24:56,337
in connection
with further possible offences.
397
00:24:56,414 --> 00:24:59,257
I would like to take
this opportunity to once again
398
00:24:59,334 --> 00:25:01,551
offer our most sincere
condolences
399
00:25:01,628 --> 00:25:03,608
to the families of the victims
400
00:25:03,685 --> 00:25:06,407
of these despicable crimes
and assure them
401
00:25:06,484 --> 00:25:08,615
that we will now work tirelessly
402
00:25:08,692 --> 00:25:11,394
to ensure that justice is done.
403
00:25:12,236 --> 00:25:14,838
No, that's not what I said.
404
00:25:14,939 --> 00:25:18,535
Obviously, I killed them
to protect myself.
405
00:25:18,736 --> 00:25:21,013
I'd raped them and,
unless I killed them,
406
00:25:21,090 --> 00:25:24,512
they were going to report me
and I was going to go to prison.
407
00:25:26,328 --> 00:25:30,238
No, what I'm baffled by...
408
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:35,583
..is how I'm able to perform such
appalling acts in the first place.
409
00:25:35,660 --> 00:25:38,371
Do you feel any guilt
for what you've done?
410
00:25:38,612 --> 00:25:40,637
Do I feel any?
411
00:25:40,736 --> 00:25:41,939
No.
412
00:25:42,488 --> 00:25:46,590
On an intellectual level,
I understand the pain I've caused.
413
00:25:46,908 --> 00:25:50,541
But on an emotional level,
no, I feel nothing.
414
00:25:50,618 --> 00:25:53,621
Do you think you're capable
of feelings?
415
00:25:54,510 --> 00:25:57,826
For my children, yes,
there's definitely something there.
416
00:25:57,903 --> 00:26:01,730
And I feel anger on occasion.
But apart from that, probably not.
417
00:26:01,807 --> 00:26:05,105
So no feelings for your patients
or your friends.
418
00:26:05,182 --> 00:26:07,331
If I never saw
any of my friends again
419
00:26:07,408 --> 00:26:09,551
it wouldn't bother me
in the slightest.
420
00:26:11,853 --> 00:26:16,055
That's not exhausting,
all that pretence?
421
00:26:16,392 --> 00:26:17,858
No, I've done it my whole life.
422
00:26:17,935 --> 00:26:21,980
So, to me,
pretending is just second nature.
423
00:26:22,432 --> 00:26:25,776
All of which,
as I'm sure you'll know,
424
00:26:25,853 --> 00:26:30,097
suggests I'm pretty much a...
textbook psychopath.
425
00:26:30,174 --> 00:26:34,175
Above average intelligence,
superficially charming,
426
00:26:34,252 --> 00:26:37,004
zero empathy.
But how did that happen?
427
00:26:37,533 --> 00:26:41,512
Well, then, we're down to the
old nature-versus-nurture debate.
428
00:26:42,353 --> 00:26:45,748
I think the consensus now
is that it's a bit of both,
429
00:26:45,916 --> 00:26:50,347
genetic tendency, in conjunction
with some life experience,
430
00:26:50,424 --> 00:26:52,160
particularly in childhood.
431
00:26:52,237 --> 00:26:57,637
And, yes, my father was cold
and unloving, sometimes violent.
432
00:26:58,213 --> 00:27:03,410
Yes, my mother compensated
with a suffocating love.
433
00:27:03,998 --> 00:27:06,121
Except, if it was that,
434
00:27:06,486 --> 00:27:11,691
then how come my sister
isn't a serial killer?
435
00:27:12,478 --> 00:27:15,808
As I say,
it's baffling.
436
00:27:18,130 --> 00:27:22,925
And would you say sex was
the primary driver for your crimes?
437
00:27:23,002 --> 00:27:24,828
It was the only driver.
438
00:27:25,388 --> 00:27:28,837
Specifically, my unnatural obsession
with adolescent girls
439
00:27:28,914 --> 00:27:31,273
between the ages of 13 and 15.
440
00:27:31,350 --> 00:27:32,426
Children.
441
00:27:32,596 --> 00:27:34,256
Adolescents.
442
00:27:34,528 --> 00:27:37,815
Ephebophilia
is a very specific perversion.
443
00:27:37,896 --> 00:27:39,921
And when did this start?
444
00:27:41,238 --> 00:27:44,054
The obsession started young.
445
00:27:44,653 --> 00:27:46,709
Early 20s, I'd say.
446
00:27:46,786 --> 00:27:49,662
And what started it, do you think?
447
00:27:49,739 --> 00:27:52,199
Again, I have no idea, I'm afraid.
448
00:27:52,575 --> 00:27:55,218
These things
are often the result of...
449
00:27:55,659 --> 00:27:59,936
..some significant event
at the pertinent age.
450
00:28:00,036 --> 00:28:05,850
The idea being that said event then
arrests psycho-sexual development.
451
00:28:06,435 --> 00:28:08,022
And so I'd love to be able
to tell you
452
00:28:08,099 --> 00:28:10,460
that I witnessed my father,
I don't know, erm...
453
00:28:10,555 --> 00:28:13,157
..raping my sister
when she was 14 or something.
454
00:28:13,234 --> 00:28:14,848
But it didn't happen.
455
00:28:15,268 --> 00:28:17,538
So again, baffled.
456
00:28:18,009 --> 00:28:19,356
Sorry.
457
00:28:22,926 --> 00:28:24,866
And Hayley...
458
00:28:34,864 --> 00:28:38,686
Can you tell us what happened
the night she died?
459
00:28:40,013 --> 00:28:42,831
Well, wrong time, wrong place,
I guess,
460
00:28:42,908 --> 00:28:44,710
would be the way I'd put it.
461
00:28:46,260 --> 00:28:48,491
I was out looking for Chris.
462
00:28:48,933 --> 00:28:52,905
I'd been out
for about ten minutes or so.
463
00:28:53,448 --> 00:28:56,832
It was raining and...
464
00:28:56,909 --> 00:28:59,069
..I was in a bad mood.
465
00:29:00,308 --> 00:29:02,168
And then she just...
466
00:29:02,903 --> 00:29:05,804
..appeared out of the dark.
467
00:29:07,005 --> 00:29:09,718
I recognised her from the house.
468
00:29:10,997 --> 00:29:14,210
In fact, I'd masturbated about her
several times already.
469
00:29:14,503 --> 00:29:18,460
So, basically,
the opportunity seemed just...
470
00:29:18,684 --> 00:29:20,864
..too good to miss.
471
00:29:20,989 --> 00:29:24,327
And so, how did it happen,
the actual assault?
472
00:29:29,498 --> 00:29:32,061
Well, I said hello.
473
00:29:32,748 --> 00:29:34,882
And she said hello back.
474
00:29:36,378 --> 00:29:41,506
And then she passed by me
quite speedily, as I remember.
475
00:29:41,583 --> 00:29:44,108
I think she was probably
a little scared.
476
00:29:44,981 --> 00:29:47,721
And then, after she'd passed, I...
477
00:29:48,139 --> 00:29:50,639
..swung round and just...
478
00:29:50,903 --> 00:29:53,444
..grabbed her from behind,
round the neck.
479
00:29:53,763 --> 00:29:55,650
And she let out a little yelp,
480
00:29:55,727 --> 00:29:58,208
but I put my hand over her mouth
481
00:29:58,298 --> 00:30:01,598
and told her that, if she didn't
struggle, I wouldn't hurt her.
482
00:30:05,588 --> 00:30:06,828
OK.
483
00:30:08,224 --> 00:30:09,844
And then...
484
00:30:10,849 --> 00:30:12,756
..you what, you er...
485
00:30:12,833 --> 00:30:15,205
..you led her away from the path?
486
00:30:17,216 --> 00:30:18,286
Yes.
487
00:30:18,477 --> 00:30:21,447
50 yards or so into the woods.
488
00:30:21,998 --> 00:30:26,275
It was quite near the car park,
I later discovered, which was...
489
00:30:26,848 --> 00:30:29,588
..just good fortune.
I hadn't planned it.
490
00:30:37,181 --> 00:30:38,861
And then?
491
00:30:40,461 --> 00:30:44,845
And then I made her lay down
in the undergrowth...
492
00:30:45,538 --> 00:30:47,438
..and we had sex.
493
00:30:48,062 --> 00:30:49,759
You raped her.
494
00:30:50,851 --> 00:30:53,791
Yes. Apologies, I raped her.
495
00:30:55,448 --> 00:30:58,068
- Just once?
- Yes.
496
00:30:58,443 --> 00:30:59,634
And then?
497
00:30:59,711 --> 00:31:01,556
Then I strangled her.
498
00:31:03,773 --> 00:31:06,700
And for what it's worth...
499
00:31:07,337 --> 00:31:11,837
though death from strangulation
can take up to two to three minutes,
500
00:31:11,914 --> 00:31:14,840
unconsciousness
comes in as little as ten seconds,
501
00:31:14,917 --> 00:31:16,678
certainly no more than 20,
502
00:31:17,031 --> 00:31:19,001
so there was very little pain.
503
00:31:19,292 --> 00:31:21,094
Same with Alison.
504
00:31:21,171 --> 00:31:25,142
Please do reassure their families
about that.
505
00:31:27,929 --> 00:31:31,986
Was she your first, Alison Baldwin?
506
00:31:34,986 --> 00:31:36,346
So...
507
00:31:37,718 --> 00:31:40,680
..I intend to treat you
with respect.
508
00:31:40,757 --> 00:31:44,462
I hope you'll afford me
the same consideration.
509
00:31:44,788 --> 00:31:48,376
But, really, the most important
people here are the victims.
510
00:31:49,029 --> 00:31:50,189
So...
511
00:31:50,867 --> 00:31:54,305
..if I agree to take you somewhere,
as I said yesterday,
512
00:31:54,382 --> 00:31:58,853
no press, no cameras... no circus.
513
00:32:00,413 --> 00:32:03,009
- No circus.
- OK.
514
00:32:03,157 --> 00:32:05,137
There's somewhere...
515
00:32:06,398 --> 00:32:11,165
..less than an hour from here,
I think you'll be interested in.
516
00:32:16,159 --> 00:32:18,219
Tomorrow, then.
517
00:32:18,518 --> 00:32:20,184
First thing.
518
00:32:41,885 --> 00:32:43,500
Are you OK?
519
00:32:43,577 --> 00:32:44,828
Fine.
520
00:32:50,508 --> 00:32:52,949
I don't know
if he's playing a game...
521
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,629
..if there are more.
522
00:32:55,808 --> 00:32:58,027
But, Jesus, whatever he's doing,
523
00:32:58,190 --> 00:33:01,871
I think that's the closest thing
to evil I've ever witnessed.
524
00:33:05,428 --> 00:33:08,061
We leave early tomorrow, before
seven, beat the traffic.
525
00:33:08,138 --> 00:33:09,166
Right.
526
00:33:10,588 --> 00:33:12,278
Night, boss.
527
00:33:33,117 --> 00:33:35,057
But what about Sal?
528
00:33:35,524 --> 00:33:38,234
I just have to deal with that.
But like I said...
529
00:33:38,965 --> 00:33:40,526
..it's whatever you guys want
530
00:33:40,603 --> 00:33:43,995
that... is the only thing
that matters to me.
531
00:33:45,354 --> 00:33:48,831
We love Mum, Dad. Of course we do.
532
00:33:48,908 --> 00:33:52,237
And we were, like,
so sad when you two split.
533
00:33:52,593 --> 00:33:53,913
But...
534
00:33:54,136 --> 00:33:56,642
..you've been happier
in the last nine months
535
00:33:56,719 --> 00:33:58,627
than we've seen you in years.
536
00:34:00,297 --> 00:34:02,307
You're with Sal now.
537
00:34:02,553 --> 00:34:05,112
And that's the Dad we like best.
538
00:34:07,374 --> 00:34:08,812
What's she said?
539
00:34:11,362 --> 00:34:12,562
Come here.
540
00:34:13,524 --> 00:34:15,516
You two...
541
00:34:38,265 --> 00:34:39,925
I meant to ask...
542
00:34:40,844 --> 00:34:45,159
Why did you bury her where you did,
Hayley, in the middle of a motorway?
543
00:34:45,236 --> 00:34:47,415
To see if I could get away with it.
544
00:34:48,307 --> 00:34:50,207
Childish, really.
545
00:34:51,219 --> 00:34:52,959
Tempting fate.
546
00:34:54,566 --> 00:34:56,350
But it just appealed.
547
00:34:57,896 --> 00:35:02,045
Do you know what, there were workmen
less than 100 yards away.
548
00:35:02,869 --> 00:35:05,178
Not one of them batted an eyelid.
549
00:35:15,724 --> 00:35:16,884
Here.
550
00:36:04,204 --> 00:36:05,724
Up there.
551
00:36:32,895 --> 00:36:34,755
Stop. Stop. Stop.
552
00:36:42,190 --> 00:36:44,225
Her name was Natasha.
553
00:36:45,502 --> 00:36:47,717
I took her six years ago.
554
00:36:48,267 --> 00:36:51,889
And, no, Alison wasn't my first.
555
00:37:05,574 --> 00:37:06,856
Boss?
556
00:37:15,085 --> 00:37:16,397
No more.
557
00:37:40,071 --> 00:37:41,754
There you are.
558
00:37:43,634 --> 00:37:44,987
Come.
559
00:37:47,049 --> 00:37:50,566
Jesus, Mila, I've been waiting
to hear from you for days.
560
00:37:50,643 --> 00:37:51,991
I've not known what to think.
561
00:37:52,068 --> 00:37:55,305
And then you greet me with a smile,
like, "Yeah, it's all fine."
562
00:37:55,382 --> 00:37:57,191
I had to know
who you were, Chris,
563
00:37:57,268 --> 00:37:59,625
and I only found that out for sure
yesterday.
564
00:37:59,702 --> 00:38:01,700
No, I told you about the murder,
565
00:38:01,777 --> 00:38:03,762
a-a-about the credit card stuff.
I told you.
566
00:38:03,839 --> 00:38:05,328
And do you think
I should have just believed you?
567
00:38:05,405 --> 00:38:08,099
Yeah, I think you should have had
a bit of faith, yeah.
568
00:38:10,650 --> 00:38:12,434
I used to have faith.
569
00:38:12,605 --> 00:38:15,474
Faith that life would be good for me
and my family.
570
00:38:15,706 --> 00:38:18,648
That my son would grow up
with a mother and father
571
00:38:18,725 --> 00:38:22,177
in our beautiful home,
in our beautiful country...
572
00:38:22,769 --> 00:38:27,849
..and become a doctor or a lawyer
or a professor.
573
00:38:31,550 --> 00:38:34,560
And then, one day,
a barrel bomb exploded and...
574
00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:38,285
..pieces of my husband's head
landed in our garden.
575
00:38:40,112 --> 00:38:42,332
So now I don't have in faith.
576
00:38:44,315 --> 00:38:46,161
I believe in facts.
577
00:38:46,238 --> 00:38:49,059
Which is why I went and spoke
to the officers
578
00:38:49,136 --> 00:38:51,778
who investigated you
about the credit card...
579
00:38:53,081 --> 00:38:56,122
..and asked them to tell me
if what you'd said was true.
580
00:38:57,792 --> 00:38:59,450
Which they did.
581
00:39:00,191 --> 00:39:03,153
And then I saw the news
about Hayley's killer.
582
00:39:03,691 --> 00:39:06,107
And so now, like you...
583
00:39:06,652 --> 00:39:09,200
..I think we could be very happy
together.
584
00:39:11,347 --> 00:39:13,520
But I understand I've hurt you.
585
00:39:13,597 --> 00:39:17,552
I can't apologise for what I did
because I feel I had no choice
586
00:39:18,636 --> 00:39:21,443
But I am sorry if you're in pain.
587
00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:29,364
And I hope we can repair that damage
together.
588
00:39:33,917 --> 00:39:38,193
Can I sleep with you tonight?
It's so cold in the van.
589
00:39:45,230 --> 00:39:48,153
You'll never have to sleep there
again.
590
00:40:01,081 --> 00:40:04,450
And I know you only stayed
because of me,
591
00:40:04,527 --> 00:40:07,200
because I felt a connection
to her here.
592
00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:11,403
But I don't any more, Jessie.
So you want to leave?
593
00:40:11,894 --> 00:40:14,677
You, me and Hayley.
594
00:40:28,633 --> 00:40:31,669
And we bury her somewhere beautiful,
Mum.
595
00:40:31,917 --> 00:40:34,353
So we can see her every day
596
00:40:34,430 --> 00:40:37,090
and remember her and smile
597
00:40:37,167 --> 00:40:40,208
and be grateful
for the time that she had...
598
00:40:40,652 --> 00:40:42,963
..and the time that we had with her.
599
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,841
And Dad will visit
and we'll visit him.
600
00:40:46,128 --> 00:40:49,161
And we'll be happy, Jessie.
601
00:40:49,238 --> 00:40:51,208
I insist on it.
602
00:40:52,699 --> 00:40:54,639
We'll be happy.
603
00:41:16,608 --> 00:41:19,000
Oh, there you are.
604
00:41:19,077 --> 00:41:21,368
We've been so worried about you.
605
00:41:21,515 --> 00:41:23,335
I went for a walk.
606
00:41:27,881 --> 00:41:29,981
Let's get the jacket off.
607
00:41:30,936 --> 00:41:32,814
There we are.
608
00:41:33,264 --> 00:41:36,266
Go into the kitchen,
I'll get you a towel.
609
00:41:42,585 --> 00:41:45,696
Here we are.
Let's get this around you.
610
00:41:46,757 --> 00:41:50,118
Go and sit down,
I'll get you a cup of tea.
611
00:41:56,503 --> 00:41:58,432
I'm sorry, Dad.
612
00:41:58,509 --> 00:42:00,289
Sorry for what?
613
00:42:05,717 --> 00:42:07,708
You were right.
614
00:42:10,841 --> 00:42:12,741
I was lonely.
615
00:42:15,667 --> 00:42:16,890
And scared.
616
00:42:16,967 --> 00:42:18,712
And I didn't...
617
00:42:18,789 --> 00:42:21,129
..I didn't want you to leave.
618
00:42:23,726 --> 00:42:25,626
Maybe you...
619
00:42:26,704 --> 00:42:29,309
..you weren't so wrong, after all.
620
00:42:29,534 --> 00:42:32,019
Maybe I am getting a bit...
621
00:42:32,096 --> 00:42:33,942
..forgetful.
622
00:42:35,654 --> 00:42:38,178
But that's not what's important
right now.
623
00:42:38,255 --> 00:42:41,309
What's important
is getting you well.
624
00:42:42,294 --> 00:42:44,034
So I thought...
625
00:42:44,635 --> 00:42:47,075
..maybe you might need to...
626
00:42:48,217 --> 00:42:50,148
..to take some time off.
627
00:42:50,225 --> 00:42:52,805
Maybe you might need
a bit of rest, eh?
628
00:42:53,714 --> 00:42:55,559
I think I'd like that.
629
00:42:59,968 --> 00:43:02,153
I think I'd like that very much.
630
00:43:08,296 --> 00:43:09,776
I'm cold.
631
00:43:14,963 --> 00:43:16,348
It doesn't work, that.
632
00:43:16,425 --> 00:43:18,411
You know that, Tim.
633
00:43:19,531 --> 00:43:22,372
We can look into getting you
some new books...
634
00:43:23,103 --> 00:43:26,012
..if you give us
some useful information.
635
00:43:26,359 --> 00:43:28,989
The information has to come first.
636
00:43:31,424 --> 00:43:35,543
And what do you think the papers
will make of your unwillingness...
637
00:43:35,673 --> 00:43:37,647
..to help the grieving families?
638
00:43:37,724 --> 00:43:40,786
I'm not entirely sure
they'd see it like that.
639
00:43:42,811 --> 00:43:45,543
And how is DCI Stuart?
640
00:43:47,179 --> 00:43:50,379
Do we think
she'll ever return to work?
641
00:43:51,987 --> 00:43:54,754
Are we wasting our time here today?
642
00:43:57,174 --> 00:43:59,504
You must have been very pretty
when you were younger.
643
00:43:59,581 --> 00:44:01,442
OK, we're done
644
00:44:02,013 --> 00:44:04,122
We'll see you in a month, Tim.
645
00:44:04,263 --> 00:44:06,066
And do us a favour, next time,
646
00:44:06,143 --> 00:44:09,028
spare us
the Silence Of The Lambs shtick, OK?
647
00:44:11,077 --> 00:44:12,872
Tewkam Wold.
648
00:44:14,594 --> 00:44:17,067
It's a village south of Lincoln.
649
00:44:19,890 --> 00:44:22,350
Her name was Victoria.
650
00:44:52,347 --> 00:44:56,846
In the name of the Father
and the Son and the Holy Ghost.
651
00:44:56,923 --> 00:44:58,293
Amen.
652
00:45:17,374 --> 00:45:18,920
And we got your invite.
653
00:45:18,997 --> 00:45:20,253
Yeah, can you come?
654
00:45:20,330 --> 00:45:23,098
Wouldn't miss it for the world.
I'm just...
655
00:45:23,184 --> 00:45:25,122
I'm so happy for you, Chris.
656
00:45:25,199 --> 00:45:29,492
Well, you wait till you meet her,
because I've been incredibly lucky.
657
00:45:29,569 --> 00:45:31,469
I think we both have.
658
00:45:33,384 --> 00:45:35,340
Well, I've got to go. Uh.
659
00:45:35,417 --> 00:45:38,399
We're having our first scan
this afternoon.
660
00:45:38,517 --> 00:45:39,828
- No!
- Yeah.
661
00:45:39,905 --> 00:45:42,652
Yeah, I'm a glutton for punishment.
662
00:45:42,729 --> 00:45:45,231
Oh, Chris!
663
00:45:45,308 --> 00:45:46,862
Congratulations, mate!
664
00:45:46,939 --> 00:45:48,548
Mind you, you're completely nuts.
665
00:45:50,858 --> 00:45:54,200
I don't think anything
has ever felt so right.
666
00:45:54,277 --> 00:45:55,552
Brilliant news.
667
00:45:55,629 --> 00:45:58,188
Just... brilliant.
668
00:45:59,988 --> 00:46:01,343
You...
669
00:46:03,012 --> 00:46:04,985
You look after yourself.
670
00:46:06,928 --> 00:46:08,318
I love you, mate.
671
00:46:08,395 --> 00:46:10,234
I love you, too.
672
00:46:28,553 --> 00:46:30,273
Are you OK?
673
00:46:30,350 --> 00:46:31,581
Mm.
674
00:46:31,805 --> 00:46:33,205
I'm fine.
675
00:46:37,589 --> 00:46:39,235
Here we are.
676
00:46:50,132 --> 00:46:52,030
Won't be long.
677
00:46:57,662 --> 00:46:59,322
Hello, stranger.
678
00:46:59,443 --> 00:47:01,143
Hello, boss.
679
00:47:03,958 --> 00:47:05,368
I've missed you.
680
00:47:05,445 --> 00:47:07,295
I've missed you, too.
681
00:47:13,825 --> 00:47:15,499
Are you well?
682
00:47:15,785 --> 00:47:17,108
Surviving.
683
00:47:17,630 --> 00:47:19,059
How are the girls?
684
00:47:19,136 --> 00:47:22,100
- Oh, they're fine, thanks.
- And Sal?
685
00:47:22,264 --> 00:47:23,512
Yeah.
686
00:47:23,681 --> 00:47:26,678
Yeah, it's a journey.
Getting there, I think.
687
00:47:27,308 --> 00:47:28,497
And you?
688
00:47:28,627 --> 00:47:30,979
- Yeah, getting there, too.
- Yeah?
689
00:47:31,056 --> 00:47:34,248
Still just... very tired.
690
00:47:34,981 --> 00:47:37,161
30 years. It's a long time.
691
00:47:38,662 --> 00:47:39,982
It is.
692
00:47:41,209 --> 00:47:43,038
And maybe long enough.
693
00:47:45,643 --> 00:47:47,909
So, I see stuff all in the papers.
694
00:47:47,986 --> 00:47:49,906
Yeah, yeah, yeah, ongoing.
695
00:47:52,113 --> 00:47:54,013
And are you OK?
696
00:47:56,270 --> 00:47:58,241
I leave it at the office.
697
00:47:59,383 --> 00:48:00,811
He's a nothing.
698
00:48:00,888 --> 00:48:03,545
Not worthy of my energy
anywhere but work.
699
00:48:06,048 --> 00:48:07,608
They're beautiful.
700
00:48:08,112 --> 00:48:09,972
They were her favourites.
701
00:48:10,155 --> 00:48:12,642
They symbolise fresh starts,
apparently.
702
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,366
Seems about right.
703
00:48:18,713 --> 00:48:20,616
Shall we go and see her, then?
704
00:48:20,970 --> 00:48:22,276
Let's.
705
00:48:24,529 --> 00:48:26,255
Hello.
706
00:49:07,910 --> 00:49:11,075
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