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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:32,704 --> 00:00:39,728 This Programme contains some strong Language. 2 00:00:43,281 --> 00:00:47,152 # How I wish How I wish you Were here 3 00:00:49,507 --> 00:00:53,577 # We're just two lost Souls Swimming in a Fish Bowl 4 00:00:53,577 --> 00:00:56,930 # Year After Year 5 00:00:58,367 --> 00:01:01,121 # Running over the Same old Ground 6 00:01:01,121 --> 00:01:03,755 # What We have found? 7 00:01:03,755 --> 00:01:07,386 # The Same old fears 8 00:01:07,386 --> 00:01:09,622 # Wish you Were here. # 9 00:02:04,620 --> 00:02:07,534 It did Stem from Those first four Notes 10 00:02:07,534 --> 00:02:11,804 That popped out one of the Guitar Day in King's Cross. 11 00:02:16,234 --> 00:02:20,026 Somehow, Those Notes evoked a Song About Syd 12 00:02:20,026 --> 00:02:26,691 and HIS Disappearance, Absence, if you Like, in Roger. 13 00:02:26,691 --> 00:02:29,046 It's My homage to Syd 14 00:02:29,046 --> 00:02:35,831 My heartfelt and Expression of My Sadness and ... 16 00:02:40,181 --> 00:02:42,376 for the Loss of the friend. 17 00:02:42,376 --> 00:02:45,610 # You Were caught in the crossfire 18 00:02:45,610 --> 00:02:47,644 # Of Childhood stardom and 19 00:02:48,842 --> 00:02:52,195 # Blown on the steel Breeze. # 20 00:02:53,631 --> 00:02:59,698 I Think the Song is Brilliant in ITS Sort of evocation of What 21 00:02:59,698 --> 00:03:03,450 Obviously Roger felt About Syd, and Certainly , it matches mine. 22 00:03:03,450 --> 00:03:07,800 What was I Think SO Important was not to try 23 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,236 and write HIM out of History. 24 00:03:09,236 --> 00:03:11,672 # Come on, you Stranger 25 00:03:11,672 --> 00:03:14,346 # You legend, you Martyr 26 00:03:14,346 --> 00:03:16,940 # And shine! # 27 00:03:35,179 --> 00:03:37,773 There are no generalities, really, in That Song. 28 00:03:37,773 --> 00:03:40,408 It's not About, "All the Crazy Diamonds" , it's about Syd. 29 00:03:40,408 --> 00:03:43,441 AND THEY Vocalize EMIT noises 30 00:03:53,778 --> 00:03:56,652 When I first SAW the Floyd, I Remember ... 31 00:03:56,652 --> 00:03:58,967 I Mean, the first thing you Noticed was the Lights, 32 00:03:58,967 --> 00:04:02,439 Because nobody was doing That then. At least I hadn't seen it. 33 00:04:02,439 --> 00:04:07,228 But Syd Started to really shine. 34 00:04:07,228 --> 00:04:09,703 You know, you couldn ' t really take your eyes off him, 35 00:04:09,703 --> 00:04:13,494 even in the murk and the purple and green Blobs, you know, 36 00:04:13,494 --> 00:04:16,767 the bright-eyed Syd and his singing and his guitar playing 37 00:04:16,767 --> 00:04:18,284 kind of jumped out at you. 38 00:04:18,284 --> 00:04:23,911 # Blinding signs flap Flicker, flicker, flicker 39 00:04:23,911 --> 00:04:27,583 # Blam ... Pow! Pow! 40 00:04:27,583 --> 00:04:31,534 # Da, Da-Da, Da, Da-Da, Da-Da 41 00:04:31,534 --> 00:04:33,211 # Da-Da , da-da 42 00:04:33,211 --> 00:04:37,401 # Ooooh! # 43 00:04:37,401 --> 00:04:40,515 By the time I was working with Them in the Studio, 44 00:04:40,515 --> 00:04:45,025 IT Clear That was the Real Shape of creative the group emanated 45 00:04:45,025 --> 00:04:46,861 from Syd, Although, 46 00:04:46,861 --> 00:04:49,415 you know, IT Certainly was not Syd and backing Group. 47 00:05:02,706 --> 00:05:06,457 Syd was a very wonderful CHAP. 48 00:05:06,457 --> 00:05:08,892 Very, very witty. Very, very sharp. 49 00:05:08,892 --> 00:05:15,956 You know, He was out-going, charming, wonderful, Friendly. 50 00:05:15,956 --> 00:05:18,510 You Name it. I mean, a wonderful man. 51 00:05:18,510 --> 00:05:23,100 He was one of the Gang, I guess you'd Say. 52 00:05:23,100 --> 00:05:25,575 A good friend. Funny. 53 00:05:25,575 --> 00:05:28,129 Rather annoying, Though - Good Looking He was 54 00:05:28,129 --> 00:05:30,244 and Played Guitar and Could paint, 55 00:05:30,244 --> 00:05:32,320 Always HAD nice and Girlfriends. 56 00:05:34,156 --> 00:05:37,428 No-one That you really Ever Would have imagined 57 00:05:37,428 --> 00:05:41,539 Would wind up the way He did wind up. 58 00:05:48,245 --> 00:05:50,080 # Remember When you Were Young 59 00:05:53,354 --> 00:05:55,668 # You shone like the sun 60 00:05:57,504 --> 00:06:03,770 # Shine on, you Crazy Diamond. # 61 00:06:23,566 --> 00:06:28,236 # Little by Little The night Turns around 62 00:06:32,586 --> 00:06:36,498 # Counting the leaves Which Tremble at Dawn 63 00:06:36,498 --> 00:06:40,568 # Ah, aaah, AH, aaah, AH 64 00:06:40,568 --> 00:06:44,360 # Ah, aaah, AH, aaah, AH 66 00:06:52,383 --> 00:06:54,657 # Heart of the sun 67 00:06:56,094 --> 00:06:58,289 # Heart of the sun. # 68 00:07:05,075 --> 00:07:07,629 In this Post Dark Side Of The Moon period, 69 00:07:07,629 --> 00:07:10,782 We Were All having to ASSESS 70 00:07:10,782 --> 00:07:14,454 What We Were in this for Business, 71 00:07:14,454 --> 00:07:19,442 why We Were doing IT, Whether We Were Artists or Business People. 72 00:07:19,442 --> 00:07:22,954 Having Achieved the Sort of Success 73 00:07:22,954 --> 00:07:29,341 and money out of IT All That ... 74 00:07:29,341 --> 00:07:33,890 fulfil That Could anyone's wildest Teenage Dreams, 75 00:07:33,890 --> 00:07:38,161 why We still Would Want to Continue to do IT. 76 00:07:38,161 --> 00:07:42,631 Yeah, I remember the disappointment of Top Of The Pops 77 00:07:42,631 --> 00:07:44,587 or having the first hit single or whatever. 78 00:07:44,587 --> 00:07:47,380 It's not as world-shaking 79 00:07:47,380 --> 00:07:49,895 and as changing Perhaps you expect IT to be. 80 00:07:51,572 --> 00:07:54,924 So maybe, you know, Because of the enormous success 81 00:07:54,924 --> 00:07:57,478 of Dark Side, there was still That sense of, 82 00:07:57,478 --> 00:08:01,909 "Well, this Has not made us feel enormously different or satisfied. " 83 00:08:03,585 --> 00:08:07,057 Roger, I Think, Sometimes Has He Thinks That said 84 00:08:07,057 --> 00:08:10,210 That We Were kind of finished at that point, 85 00:08:10,210 --> 00:08:12,126 He and May have Been right. 86 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,796 I Think We Were at a watershed then , 87 00:08:16,796 --> 00:08:18,991 and We Could Easily have Split up then. 88 00:08:18,991 --> 00:08:21,545 And We did not, Because We Were Frightened 89 00:08:21,545 --> 00:08:25,656 of the Great out there, Beyond the Umbrella 90 00:08:25,656 --> 00:08:31,044 of this extraordinarily Powerful and Valuable Trade Name - Pink Floyd. 91 00:08:45,452 --> 00:08:47,847 It was the first Song They Played, and IT was Like, "Whoa," 92 00:08:47,847 --> 00:08:50,162 IT was Like Singing About Syd Barrett. 93 00:08:58,384 --> 00:09:03,293 The Band That was known for Their musicality, 94 00:09:03,293 --> 00:09:06,366 They Were not doing Their Music Justice. 95 00:09:06,366 --> 00:09:10,197 Do you Recall there was a Famous Review by Nick Kent? 96 00:09:10,197 --> 00:09:12,313 How Could I forget? 97 00:09:12,313 --> 00:09:13,949 I kind of over-reacted, Obviously. 98 00:09:13,949 --> 00:09:16,064 I Mean, now I Feel That I over-reacted, 99 00:09:16,064 --> 00:09:19,138 but at the Same time, partly They deserved IT. 100 00:09:19,138 --> 00:09:20,973 It was a Bad Gig. 101 00:09:20,973 --> 00:09:22,650 It was, it was shambolic. 102 00:09:22,650 --> 00:09:28,716 I Mean IT was ... IT Lacked enthusiasm and IT Lacked a Sort of Purpose, 103 00:09:28,716 --> 00:09:31,032 a sense of Purpose, and I do not really know why. 104 00:09:31,032 --> 00:09:37,377 From My perspective now, to Look back upon How I felt then, 105 00:09:37,377 --> 00:09:42,965 as I was Scared of My Own Shadow, you know, 106 00:09:42,965 --> 00:09:45,878 Never Mind My Relationship with Audiences, 107 00:09:45,878 --> 00:09:49,869 and there Were Real Concerns About not making any Contact 108 00:09:49,869 --> 00:09:54,340 with the audience DURING That much of Tour of England 109 00:09:54,340 --> 00:09:55,617 That We did in 1974. 110 00:09:55,617 --> 00:10:01,644 And We did not. We were ... we were very disconnected. 111 00:10:03,838 --> 00:10:09,027 If We Were not Giving 100%, we couldn't quite sort out why not. 112 00:10:09,027 --> 00:10:12,460 You know, there was an element of Frustration 113 00:10:12,460 --> 00:10:14,854 in having someone tell us That. 114 00:10:14,854 --> 00:10:20,002 I Think We Probably knew it and couldn't quite sort of deal with it. 115 00:10:22,716 --> 00:10:26,269 That Review Would have Been one of the Things Which Would have - 116 00:10:26,269 --> 00:10:31,896 once we'd got over Our Initial IRE - We Would have Taken on Board 117 00:10:31,896 --> 00:10:35,169 and realised That there was More than a germ of Truth in IT. 118 00:10:51,533 --> 00:10:54,806 I was Asked to Record at the Floyd What was then Called 119 00:10:54,806 --> 00:10:57,918 the Empire Pool, Which is now the Wembley Arena, 120 00:10:57,918 --> 00:11:02,349 When I SAW and the Floyd before They Went on, They said, 121 00:11:02,349 --> 00:11:06,819 "Oh, do us a Favour, Will you go and sit with our sound engineer? " 122 00:11:06,819 --> 00:11:08,096 And I said, "OK." 123 00:11:08,096 --> 00:11:10,691 How Long is IT since you've been here, Brian? 124 00:11:10,691 --> 00:11:12,447 30 years. 125 00:11:14,562 --> 00:11:16,118 And Anyhow, 127 00:11:17,835 --> 00:11:21,347 "Well, What do you Think?" And I said, "It's rubbish." 128 00:11:21,347 --> 00:11:25,259 Because I'd Been Used to working with Smaller Groups 129 00:11:25,259 --> 00:11:29,808 on Smaller mixing desks, and theirs was massive. 130 00:11:30,966 --> 00:11:33,121 So anyway, Cut a Long Story Short, 131 00:11:33,121 --> 00:11:37,032 next thing I Knew, I was doing the next night at the Empire Pool. 132 00:11:41,382 --> 00:11:43,498 Oh, God, this does Take me back. 133 00:11:43,498 --> 00:11:46,491 And then I ended up doing the rest of the British tour. 134 00:11:47,728 --> 00:11:50,203 Somebody Better just run through this. 135 00:11:50,203 --> 00:11:54,274 And then, as I say, then came Wish You Were Here. 136 00:11:54,274 --> 00:11:56,549 There Were a Lot of days where We did not do anything, 137 00:11:56,549 --> 00:11:59,902 while Were They Thinking About ideas. 138 00:11:59,902 --> 00:12:03,773 That was The Reality We Were Struggling with making the Follow-up 139 00:12:03,773 --> 00:12:07,365 to Dark Side, and We Rushed back in to the Studio to do That. 140 00:12:08,642 --> 00:12:13,232 You know, We Ourselves put under a Sort of ridiculous pressure, 141 00:12:13,232 --> 00:12:15,388 in a way, Trying to make a Record from nothing. 142 00:12:16,824 --> 00:12:18,261 It was disengagement. 143 00:12:18,261 --> 00:12:23,210 It was not Being willing to Apply Yourself sufficiently. 144 00:12:23,210 --> 00:12:28,119 A Lot of Moments where any one of us Might have Been More much 145 00:12:28,119 --> 00:12:32,988 Interested in Thinking About What They Were doing That weekend. 146 00:12:34,625 --> 00:12:38,216 It Became a Case of two Would be in the Studio and two Were running 147 00:12:38,216 --> 00:12:43,245 or late, as IT was Always known, They Were Playing Squash out. 148 00:12:45,041 --> 00:12:50,151 And then We HAD the Dartboard with the Air Rifle. 149 00:12:51,268 --> 00:12:56,377 The Concentrated activity was rather Diluted, 150 00:12:56,377 --> 00:12:59,290 and I'm sure for a ... 152 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,753 Like Roger, was IT More frustrating than IT was for anyone else, 153 00:13:06,753 --> 00:13:09,987 Although considerably frustrating for All of us, I Suspect. 154 00:13:09,987 --> 00:13:14,417 When I'm in the Studio, I'm there to do something, 155 00:13:14,417 --> 00:13:18,128 otherwise I'd rather be somewhere else, frankly. 156 00:13:18,128 --> 00:13:19,685 So I'm there to work. 157 00:13:31,618 --> 00:13:34,093 Well, you know, there's the argument Legendary 158 00:13:34,093 --> 00:13:37,485 That I must have HAD with the rest of Them About ... 159 00:13:39,641 --> 00:13:42,834 .. My Thought at the time IT That Would be Better to use 160 00:13:42,834 --> 00:13:46,466 the two Other Tracks as well That We HAD Been working on. 161 00:13:46,466 --> 00:13:50,816 I HAD to Fight David for a bit, as He acknowledges Completely, 162 00:13:50,816 --> 00:13:51,854 you know. 163 00:13:51,854 --> 00:13:54,887 We HAD a Completely Different idea About IT, 164 00:13:54,887 --> 00:13:57,800 That was and a ... That was a Fight That I Won. 165 00:13:58,878 --> 00:14:05,144 Dave SAW a Record That HAD Those two Songs and Shine On, 166 00:14:05,144 --> 00:14:08,816 and IT felt cobbled Together to me. 167 00:14:08,816 --> 00:14:11,251 It did not Feel Like Real. 168 00:14:11,251 --> 00:14:14,124 And SO at some Point in Process That, yeah, 169 00:14:14,124 --> 00:14:18,594 I Came up with the idea of, "No, this Has to be thematic," 170 00:14:18,594 --> 00:14:21,069 and That's the way I expressed IT. 171 00:14:24,182 --> 00:14:27,215 This Will make this a More coherent work, 172 00:14:27,215 --> 00:14:29,570 Because IT's and More coherent, 174 00:14:32,443 --> 00:14:36,036 We've Been working on Boom Together and go, there you are, That's IT . 175 00:14:36,036 --> 00:14:39,707 There's one's That Song About Syd, but the rest of IT Is not. 176 00:14:39,707 --> 00:14:45,135 It's a much More Universal expression of my feelings 177 00:14:45,135 --> 00:14:47,211 About Absence ... 178 00:14:49,167 --> 00:14:52,599 .. Because I felt That We Were not really there, 179 00:14:52,599 --> 00:14:54,076 We Were very absent. 180 00:15:07,047 --> 00:15:08,684 I Remembered IT. 181 00:15:13,073 --> 00:15:16,346 # Come in here, dear Boy Have a Cigar 182 00:15:16,346 --> 00:15:17,663 # You're gonna go far. # 183 00:15:17,663 --> 00:15:19,858 "Come in here and have a Cigar," 184 00:15:19,858 --> 00:15:23,890 you know, and Become a Star and Become Immortal. 185 00:15:23,890 --> 00:15:25,845 # You're gonna make IT if you try 186 00:15:25,845 --> 00:15:27,562 # They're gonna Love you. # 187 00:15:27,562 --> 00:15:32,271 You Become Part of the Whole Buying and selling Machine. 188 00:15:32,271 --> 00:15:33,708 It's High. 190 00:15:38,617 --> 00:15:43,726 I ??Think the Lyrics SO much Sum up the recording Business. 191 00:15:47,877 --> 00:15:50,072 Rock 'n' roll, MAN. 192 00:15:50,072 --> 00:15:53,983 # Come in here, dear Boy Have a Cigar 193 00:15:53,983 --> 00:15:57,016 # You're gonna go far. # 194 00:15:57,016 --> 00:16:00,888 The Record companies Were ... they were all-powerful, in a way. 195 00:16:00,888 --> 00:16:03,722 No-one Worked without a Record Deal in Those days, 196 00:16:03,722 --> 00:16:06,475 so they had a lot of power. 197 00:16:09,309 --> 00:16:12,342 You're not really an Individual longer any More, 198 00:16:12,342 --> 00:16:14,457 You're just ... you're a cipher, 199 00:16:14,457 --> 00:16:17,132 You're Playing a Part, You're a puppet. 200 00:16:17,132 --> 00:16:18,688 You're not your Own MAN. 201 00:16:18,688 --> 00:16:22,440 # The weather's just fantastic That is really What I Think 202 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,032 # Oh , by the way Which one's Pink? # 203 00:16:27,469 --> 00:16:29,305 By the way, Which one is Pink? 204 00:16:29,305 --> 00:16:30,462 Which one's Pink? 205 00:16:30,462 --> 00:16:31,660 Which one's Pink? 206 00:16:31,660 --> 00:16:37,208 # And We did tell you The Name of the game, Boy? 207 00:16:37,208 --> 00:16:40,680 # We call IT Riding the gravy train. # 208 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:46,267 It was felt Syd That's partly Madness HAD Come About 209 00:16:46,267 --> 00:16:50,178 through the Demands of the Record Industry. 210 00:16:50,178 --> 00:16:52,334 "You've HAD a hit, now I Want you to do Another hit." 211 00:16:52,334 --> 00:16:54,449 "I Want Another hit you, and I want another hit. " 212 00:16:54,449 --> 00:16:56,644 "And That's not as Good as your Last hit." 213 00:16:56,644 --> 00:16:59,558 "That's not as good as your last record, "you know, 214 00:16:59,558 --> 00:17:01,833 "And I Want you to do a Show Bigger and More Lights have 215 00:17:01,833 --> 00:17:03,110 "and More People." 216 00:17:03,110 --> 00:17:05,065 I Mean, IT's ... 217 00:17:05,065 --> 00:17:07,261 "Hey, All I wanted to do is to play a guitar 218 00:17:07,261 --> 00:17:10,693 "and write a Song, and Suddenly I'm in the Middle of All this." 219 00:17:10,693 --> 00:17:14,564 The Star thing does not make ... doesn't make you happy, you know. 220 00:17:14,564 --> 00:17:18,675 That, the Star thing, you CAN make Want to Withdraw from Society. 221 00:17:18,675 --> 00:17:23,465 # It's awfully considerate of you To Think of me here 222 00:17:23,465 --> 00:17:28,853 # And I'm Most Obliged to you For making IT Clear 223 00:17:28,853 --> 00:17:30,648 # That I'm not here. # 224 00:17:30,648 --> 00:17:33,403 Well, you Could Argue That Syd was Burned by the Music Business, 225 00:17:33,403 --> 00:17:35,957 but Actually, He was Probably Burned more by us. 226 00:17:35,957 --> 00:17:37,674 # And I Never Knew the moon ... # 227 00:17:37,674 --> 00:17:41,146 Sort of Syd HAD gone off the idea of doing Top Of The Pops, 228 00:17:41,146 --> 00:17:42,902 Sort of Being and Commercial. 229 00:17:42,902 --> 00:17:45,177 # .. Shoes and Brought me here. # 230 00:17:45,177 --> 00:17:48,250 I Think IT was not the Record Company Putting the pressure on, IT was us 231 00:17:48,250 --> 00:17:51,603 Putting the pressure on , because that's the way we wanted to go. 232 00:17:51,603 --> 00:17:55,354 # I do not Care If the sun does not shine 233 00:17:55,354 --> 00:18:00,263 # And I do not Care If nothing is mine 234 00:18:00,263 --> 00:18:04,733 # And I do not Care If I'm Nervous with you 235 00:18:04,733 --> 00:18:08,924 # I'll do My loving in the Winter. # 236 00:18:14,910 --> 00:18:17,665 # Come in here, dear Boy Have a Cigar 237 00:18:17,665 --> 00:18:19,940 # You're gonna go far 238 00:18:19,940 --> 00:18:21,616 # Fly High ... # 239 00:18:21,616 --> 00:18:23,213 With Have A Cigar, 240 00:18:23,213 --> 00:18:27,243 both of Them Knew That Neither of Them Could Sing IT. 241 00:18:27,243 --> 00:18:31,873 I Always Thought That Dave's Voice was not Deep Enough. 242 00:18:31,873 --> 00:18:35,426 # I've Always HAD a Deep Respect I Mean That Most Sincerely. # 243 00:18:35,426 --> 00:18:36,663 Yeah, That's Dave. 244 00:18:39,137 --> 00:18:42,809 # I Think the Band's fantastic That is really What I Think 245 00:18:42,809 --> 00:18:45,363 # By the way, Which one's Pink? # 246 00:18:45,363 --> 00:18:46,401 That's Roger. 247 00:18:46,401 --> 00:18:51,111 They wanted the Ferocity Which Gives Roger on Other Tracks. 249 00:18:56,340 --> 00:18:59,572 "Come in here, dear Boy, have a Cigar. 250 00:18:59,572 --> 00:19:01,527 "You're gonna go far." 251 00:19:01,527 --> 00:19:05,678 Roy was definitely one of the Great characters around for a Lot 252 00:19:05,678 --> 00:19:08,831 of Our Early ... Our Early life, really. 253 00:19:09,869 --> 00:19:15,177 We Used to do quite a Lot of Shows where Roy Would be on the bill. 254 00:19:15,177 --> 00:19:17,532 A Good Guy to have around. 255 00:19:17,532 --> 00:19:23,279 I was in Studio 2 and they were in Studio 3 . 256 00:19:23,279 --> 00:19:25,514 I Think Roy was rather Actually ... 257 00:19:26,951 --> 00:19:29,745 .. lacking in Momentum Himself. 258 00:19:29,745 --> 00:19:31,103 I Think We Were ... 259 00:19:31,103 --> 00:19:34,175 It did not seem to Affect Only Pink Floyd. 260 00:19:34,175 --> 00:19:36,650 You know, That's why I have this vision, 261 00:19:36,650 --> 00:19:41,040 I guess, of me Being in and out All the time, in and out, in and out. 263 00:19:47,626 --> 00:19:50,579 Very expensive recording time That He Would Spend just 264 00:19:50,579 --> 00:19:53,812 in Our Control Room chattering and ... 265 00:19:53,812 --> 00:19:55,887 Anyway, I digress. 266 00:19:55,887 --> 00:19:57,963 Roger was really Struggling with IT, 267 00:19:57,963 --> 00:20:01,475 and then Dave ... then they both tried. 268 00:20:01,475 --> 00:20:04,228 There was a Lot of arguing About How We Were going to do IT 269 00:20:04,228 --> 00:20:06,185 and how we were going to make it work. 270 00:20:06,185 --> 00:20:08,579 At one Point Roy, Who was in the Room, Piped up and said ... 271 00:20:08,579 --> 00:20:12,690 I just said, "I'll do IT if you Like, for a price." 272 00:20:12,690 --> 00:20:18,038 # I've Always HAD a Deep Respect and I mean that most sincerely 273 00:20:18,038 --> 00:20:21,551 I Mean, Roy really put this in HIS Heart. 274 00:20:21,551 --> 00:20:24,145 I Mean, I CAN Picture HIM now ... 275 00:20:24,145 --> 00:20:26,779 # Which one's Pink? # 276 00:20:26,779 --> 00:20:29,094 .. Putting HIS Heart and Soul in to IT, 277 00:20:29,094 --> 00:20:31,129 as if HIS life depended on IT. 278 00:20:31,129 --> 00:20:35,081 # You gotta Get an album out You Owe IT to the People 279 00:20:35,081 --> 00:20:38,354 # We're SO Happy We Hardly CAN count. # 280 00:20:38,354 --> 00:20:39,750 I Mean, the Lyrics ... 281 00:20:41,626 --> 00:20:43,981 If I'd have Written Those Lyrics, I'd Feel well pleased. 282 00:20:43,981 --> 00:20:50,007 # And We did tell you The Name of the game, Boy 283 00:20:50,007 --> 00:20:54,278 # We call the IT Riding gravy train. # 284 00:20:54,278 --> 00:20:56,872 It was Played Millions of times around the World as a single. 285 00:20:56,872 --> 00:21:01,063 That was My vocals on a .. . You know, really ... 286 00:21:01,063 --> 00:21:05,134 a kind of a number one selling single. 287 00:21:05,134 --> 00:21:07,409 Everybody Thought IT was Roger. 288 00:21:08,965 --> 00:21:11,241 I was a bit peed off About That. 289 00:21:11,241 --> 00:21:14,034 if I Think I'd Sung IT, IT Would be More vulnerable 290 00:21:14,034 --> 00:21:16,509 and Cynical less than the way He did IT. 291 00:21:16,509 --> 00:21:18,943 But That's not the way Roy sings. 292 00:21:18,943 --> 00:21:25,409 He Went off and did IT and did a Great job, and thank you very much. 293 00:21:27,125 --> 00:21:29,759 I do not Think Roger liked his version terribly much, 294 00:21:29,759 --> 00:21:32,793 but I Think HIS version is the perfect version. 295 00:21:32,793 --> 00:21:36,065 He was a Singing Sort of parody , anyway ... 296 00:21:38,101 --> 00:21:42,092 .. Which I do not Like. I never liked it. 297 00:21:42,092 --> 00:21:47,679 The Worst of IT is That Sometimes When I'm doing, 298 00:21:47,679 --> 00:21:50,075 you know, When I'm doing a gig ... 299 00:21:51,950 --> 00:21:56,301 .. there's some wag'll shout, "Have A Cigar", you know. 300 00:21:56,301 --> 00:21:58,775 I Regret IT, and That's not 301 00:21:58,775 --> 00:22:01,329 cos I've got anything Against Roy, I have not, you know. 303 00:22:04,562 --> 00:22:09,152 I Think if I'd persevered with IT, Would I have Done Better IT. 304 00:22:09,152 --> 00:22:13,382 # Come in here, dear Boy Have a Cigar 305 00:22:13,382 --> 00:22:16,177 # You're gonna go far 306 00:22:16,177 --> 00:22:19,489 # You're gonna fly High 307 00:22:19,489 --> 00:22:22,922 # You're gonna Never Die You're gonna make IT if you try 308 00:22:22,922 --> 00:22:25,955 # They're gonna Love you. # 309 00:22:33,259 --> 00:22:34,775 I was SO unbelievably thrilled 310 00:22:34,775 --> 00:22:38,168 to be there, and I was just very Young, 311 00:22:38,168 --> 00:22:39,445 I was just About 21. 312 00:22:39,445 --> 00:22:41,600 There is Actually a rather nice Picture of me 313 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,153 That took Nick Mason, and IT Sort of Sums up, Because I just Look 314 00:22:45,153 --> 00:22:46,549 Wide-Eyed and, 315 00:22:46,549 --> 00:22:49,743 you know, thrilled is the Only Word, I Think. 316 00:22:49,743 --> 00:22:51,698 I'd Baked some fairy Cakes, 317 00:22:51,698 --> 00:22:54,372 and I thought it would be a good idea to bring them to the studio. 318 00:22:54,372 --> 00:22:58,802 There's this wonderful Sequence of Roger Proving That He did 319 00:22:58,802 --> 00:23:00,358 Enjoy the cake. 320 00:23:00,358 --> 00:23:03,552 That I Think Nick took These Pictures, 321 00:23:03,552 --> 00:23:07,703 Because I can not imagine That I had the courage to sort of, 322 00:23:07,703 --> 00:23:09,898 you know, Take Them, but Perhaps I did. 323 00:23:13,050 --> 00:23:16,124 Roger is in the driving seat in these pictures, 324 00:23:16,124 --> 00:23:20,115 as far as the Studio's Concerned, and Perhaps Position That is hard. 325 00:23:20,115 --> 00:23:22,151 But , actually, it's probably better 326 00:23:22,151 --> 00:23:25,383 if just one person is in the Driving seat. 327 00:23:25,383 --> 00:23:28,776 Roger, Actually, you know , kept a tight hold on the helm, 328 00:23:28,776 --> 00:23:31,490 and That's What He - That's What He did. 329 00:23:31,490 --> 00:23:34,563 And, you know, you can't gainsay that, 330 00:23:34,563 --> 00:23:38,115 Because the Records, you know, the very Records Were Good. 331 00:23:46,816 --> 00:23:49,529 Dark Side was just a such a sort of thing. 332 00:23:49,529 --> 00:23:52,244 All the Pieces fell into Place, 333 00:23:52,244 --> 00:23:53,561 or as Nick Mason says, 334 00:23:53,561 --> 00:23:54,958 "The drumming did IT." 335 00:23:54,958 --> 00:23:59,069 So I Think That That was quite hard to Deal with. 336 00:23:59,069 --> 00:24:00,865 What do you do next? What do you do to top it? 337 00:24:00,865 --> 00:24:02,621 What do you do to be Different? 338 00:24:04,058 --> 00:24:06,612 Well, I could not draw, 339 00:24:06,612 --> 00:24:09,446 SO Fantasy Pictures Were out. 340 00:24:09,446 --> 00:24:13,078 I could not paint, SO artsy fartsy was out. 341 00:24:13,078 --> 00:24:17,268 I was not a graphic Designer, and Also, I was not Interested 342 00:24:17,268 --> 00:24:22,497 in Band Pictures, Because I found a Them bit dull, you know, a group 343 00:24:22,497 --> 00:24:26,488 of four musicians Who Play Guitar, Bass or Drums and Keyboards 344 00:24:26,488 --> 00:24:29,881 Would seem to me to be four musicians. They could be anybody. 345 00:24:29,881 --> 00:24:36,146 We Always felt Representing the Music That was the order of the Day. 346 00:24:36,146 --> 00:24:39,220 I know, it sounds radical, even revolutionary! 347 00:24:39,220 --> 00:24:43,410 So in order to Represent the Music, one did not really Want to be limited 348 00:24:43,410 --> 00:24:48,280 in the Great palette of Art and life to a Picture of four Geezers. 349 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:54,106 We'd Mostly, in Those days, left to IT Storm to Come up with 350 00:24:54,106 --> 00:24:59,256 Things Which We Would Give HIM a Desultory two minutes 351 00:24:59,256 --> 00:25:04,683 Our Mixing of time, to Say That one, maybe, That one , not that, not that. 352 00:25:04,683 --> 00:25:08,834 They Were recording at Abbey Road, and I Remember going there, 353 00:25:08,834 --> 00:25:10,710 and I remember I was very ... 354 00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:13,664 I was very Nervous doing in the Presentation. 355 00:25:13,664 --> 00:25:17,974 He Came up with These - this, you know, from the lyrics, 356 00:25:17,974 --> 00:25:23,083 from this Theme of Absence, and IT just Seemed Like a Good very idea. 357 00:25:23,083 --> 00:25:25,877 I Remember Getting a Little Round of applause. 358 00:25:25,877 --> 00:25:27,832 I was gratified Most, I CAN tell you. 359 00:25:27,832 --> 00:25:31,744 Storm, actually, is probably one of the most argumentative people 360 00:25:31,744 --> 00:25:33,819 Could you Ever Meet. 361 00:25:33,819 --> 00:25:37,411 Roger and Storm Would have these intense conversations 362 00:25:37,411 --> 00:25:40,005 over Fine Wines and SO on. 363 00:25:40,005 --> 00:25:43,597 Roger Storm and two Were Great intellects and, you know, 364 00:25:43,597 --> 00:25:47,987 there was Sparks flying in Their Brains, Those two. 365 00:25:47,987 --> 00:25:53,455 I got very pre-Occupied with four, with the number four. 366 00:25:53,455 --> 00:25:56,649 There Were four Words in the title, four members of the Band, 367 00:25:56,649 --> 00:26:01,158 and four Elements to life - air, fire, water and earth. 368 00:26:01,158 --> 00:26:04,191 So the first thing was Done That was a postcard. 369 00:26:04,191 --> 00:26:06,507 The postcard said "Wish You Were Here." 370 00:26:06,507 --> 00:26:10,657 Po found this fantastic Location, Called Mono Lake, 371 00:26:10,657 --> 00:26:12,853 Which is such an amazing location 372 00:26:12,853 --> 00:26:16,125 That you just Could Photograph About a plastic Duck in IT 373 00:26:16,125 --> 00:26:17,203 and you'd Like IT. 374 00:26:17,203 --> 00:26:20,435 We Always Thought there was an element of Storm loving to Find 375 00:26:20,435 --> 00:26:22,870 the Most expensive, Distant Location in the World 376 00:26:22,870 --> 00:26:27,740 SO He Could go off and have a jolly Little for a FEW days at Our Expense. 377 00:26:27,740 --> 00:26:30,214 This Guy is doing a Yoga Position 378 00:26:30,214 --> 00:26:32,488 in a Yoga chair locked into the mud, 379 00:26:32,488 --> 00:26:35,003 Poor MAN, with a Breathing apparatus on. 380 00:26:35,003 --> 00:26:37,598 And He HAD to hold HIS Breath SO I did not Get any bubbles. 381 00:26:37,598 --> 00:26:40,671 That's All for Real shot. That's not airbrushed or cut or anything. 382 00:26:40,671 --> 00:26:44,462 That was a moment in time on a Magical Evening, 383 00:26:44,462 --> 00:26:45,700 with amazing Light . 384 00:26:45,700 --> 00:26:48,014 Did That Take a Long time to set up, That shot? 385 00:26:48,014 --> 00:26:50,568 A fucking Long time. 386 00:26:50,568 --> 00:26:52,644 This shot was a Pain in the Arse. 387 00:27:13,758 --> 00:27:15,473 I Came to the Notice of Pink Floyd, 389 00:27:18,347 --> 00:27:21,780 I Thought That I Would do a kind of a diary Visual 390 00:27:21,780 --> 00:27:23,376 of Americana at That time. 391 00:27:24,613 --> 00:27:26,888 So I Drew Everything That I Could Think of at the time, 392 00:27:26,888 --> 00:27:30,281 Like Black Power, Playboy magazine, Mickey Mouse. 393 00:27:30,281 --> 00:27:31,837 Hi, guys. 394 00:27:35,150 --> 00:27:38,503 There was a fantastic Mickey Mouse sequence, where Mickey 395 00:27:38,503 --> 00:27:42,095 Goes from Being the mouse to Sort of Being a Drug crazed mouse. 396 00:27:48,161 --> 00:27:50,955 HE SIGHS 397 00:27:50,955 --> 00:27:53,749 Hey, MAN. That was far out, man. 398 00:27:53,749 --> 00:27:56,782 Mickey's such a clean Living Guy, and there He was ... 399 00:27:58,777 --> 00:28:01,132 . . on drugs. 400 00:28:01,132 --> 00:28:03,647 Thought I was absolutely Brilliant IT, and I just Thought 401 00:28:03,647 --> 00:28:05,922 this, We Could really .. . 402 00:28:05,922 --> 00:28:08,157 It'd be Great to work with someone Who Produced 403 00:28:08,157 --> 00:28:09,833 something Like this. 404 00:28:09,833 --> 00:28:13,704 And I took IT to Roger and Roger and Roger Showed loved IT. 405 00:28:13,704 --> 00:28:18,215 It was very Awkward, Like All relationships at the Beginning, 406 00:28:18,215 --> 00:28:19,891 Because They wanted one thing from me, 407 00:28:19,891 --> 00:28:21,806 and I was not Coming up with the Goods, I felt. 408 00:28:21,806 --> 00:28:24,640 When I Say this to Roger Today, He says, "Oh, I do not Remember That." 409 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,953 I just remember it was an enormous relief 410 00:28:27,953 --> 00:28:31,186 After a Lot of the Visually flailing around 411 00:28:31,186 --> 00:28:33,700 That we'd Done with Dark Side Of The Moon. 412 00:28:36,374 --> 00:28:41,323 I Think the Sandman is a particularly Great Image. 413 00:28:44,038 --> 00:28:47,669 You know, the Fact That We ' re all bits of sand that can blow away, 414 00:28:47,669 --> 00:28:49,864 I Think IT's just an idea I HAD, really. 415 00:28:49,864 --> 00:28:55,093 I wanted to do the impermanence of life or whatever, you know. 416 00:28:55,093 --> 00:28:59,204 It All Sounds rather ... pretentious crap, really. 417 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,271 The Beginning of the Record Sounds very Melancholy, 418 00:29:23,271 --> 00:29:26,264 and is very Melancholy is and Melancholy Music . 419 00:29:28,499 --> 00:29:29,737 Sort of Blues, 420 00:29:29,737 --> 00:29:33,169 IT's a Sort of G Minor Blues Whole That first Six or seven minutes. 421 00:29:37,599 --> 00:29:44,384 We found a Mood Obviously That We wanted to not exactly jam to, 422 00:29:44,384 --> 00:29:47,378 but Play around with and Find something within. 423 00:29:50,171 --> 00:29:53,245 And We Were Never too afraid of leaving quite a Long period 424 00:29:53,245 --> 00:29:57,834 of time before Instrumental Came in vocals. 425 00:30:24,415 --> 00:30:28,926 You See, at the time, IT was a Case of let's See What works. 426 00:30:31,918 --> 00:30:35,471 So then, hence, the Wine glass tape came out. 427 00:30:41,458 --> 00:30:44,531 The Wine glasses Were Recorded an album for 428 00:30:44,531 --> 00:30:48,003 They Were going to make Called Household Objects, 429 00:30:48,003 --> 00:30:50,158 Which We HAD a loop on 430 00:30:50,158 --> 00:30:54,868 and then Rick then built up the sound 431 00:30:54,868 --> 00:30:57,422 with synthesisers and Organ. 432 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,351 They wanted a Big sound, SO was the Guitar Recorded 433 00:31:11,351 --> 00:31:12,868 in a different studio, 434 00:31:12,868 --> 00:31:15,502 SO hence the click Track. 435 00:31:17,817 --> 00:31:22,167 He put HIS Amplifiers and speakers down in Studio one .. . 436 00:31:23,724 --> 00:31:28,074 .. Being a Classical Music Studio, and then mic'd IT from a Distance. 437 00:31:29,351 --> 00:31:32,344 I Think IT comes across on the album. 438 00:31:35,897 --> 00:31:39,648 You Could Picture IT Being Played out somewhere in an Auditorium. 439 00:31:47,750 --> 00:31:51,382 This Will be Rick featured on the end of Shine On, 440 00:31:51,382 --> 00:31:53,378 He really where Came in to HIS element. 441 00:31:57,369 --> 00:32:01,640 You have a Hammond Organ on there, you have grand piano ... 442 00:32:02,957 --> 00:32:08,065 .. plus the Synthesised Other Instruments He Plays. 443 00:32:21,196 --> 00:32:24,230 I CAN 't remember exactly what synthesiser that was, 444 00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:31,174 but this is Richard's ... Trademark. 445 00:32:33,768 --> 00:32:38,358 He's a Great piano player, 446 00:32:38,358 --> 00:32:43,507 and does Highlight, I Think, HIS Classical Training. 447 00:32:44,745 --> 00:32:48,895 And I Think if he'd HAD Another 20 minutes, you would have heard 448 00:32:48,895 --> 00:32:53,285 Probably Like a Rick Wright Concerto. 449 00:32:57,796 --> 00:33:03,263 And at the very end, where He does the tribute to Syd Barrett, 450 00:33:03,263 --> 00:33:09,250 I do not Remember That if Rick was just Thinking of That 451 00:33:09,250 --> 00:33:11,725 at the spur of the moment. 452 00:33:11,725 --> 00:33:15,517 That was a nice ... a nice touching thing. 453 00:33:23,578 --> 00:33:27,290 He was kind of a Crazy Diamond, 454 00:33:27,290 --> 00:33:30,403 and the All Things IT says About HIM 455 00:33:30,403 --> 00:33:35,033 in Brilliant Those lines are very, very Accurate, you know. 456 00:33:36,790 --> 00:33:39,104 "You wore out your welcome with Random Precision" , 457 00:33:39,104 --> 00:33:40,781 Certainly was a Part of HIM. 458 00:33:40,781 --> 00:33:46,727 # Well, you wore out your welcome With Random Precision 459 00:33:46,727 --> 00:33:51,876 # Rode on the steel Breeze 460 00:33:51,876 --> 00:33:55,029 # Come on, you Raver, 461 00:33:55,029 --> 00:33:57,623 # You SEER of Visions 462 00:33:57,623 --> 00:34:00,816 # Come on, you Painter, Piper you 463 00:34:00,816 --> 00:34:04,488 # You Prisoner, and shine ! # 464 00:34:06,843 --> 00:34:10,873 My Memory is That We Were recording a Radio One Show 465 00:34:10,873 --> 00:34:12,351 at the BBC ... 466 00:34:13,667 --> 00:34:15,463 .. and Syd did not Turn up. 467 00:34:15,463 --> 00:34:16,980 And I Think IT was a Friday. 468 00:34:17,978 --> 00:34:19,615 And no-one Could Find HIM. 469 00:34:19,615 --> 00:34:22,727 So Basically We Waited and Waited, and I Think 470 00:34:22,727 --> 00:34:25,601 We HAD to cancel the recording, or We tried to do some without HIM, 471 00:34:25,601 --> 00:34:29,273 I'm not sure, and then the managers Went off Trying to Find HIM. 472 00:34:30,431 --> 00:34:33,943 And When They found Syd, Which I Think was a Sunday or Monday, 473 00:34:33,943 --> 00:34:38,013 They Told us, "Well, something's happened to Syd. " 474 00:34:39,410 --> 00:34:42,603 And something HAD happened to HIM, Total Difference. 475 00:34:42,603 --> 00:34:46,156 And I Remember HIM Like Being right this, and looking in his eyes, 476 00:34:46,156 --> 00:34:47,234 and IT was just Like ... 477 00:34:47,234 --> 00:34:49,268 HE MAKES CLICKING NOISE 478 00:34:49,268 --> 00:34:51,384 .. HAD Somebody Turned the Lights out, you know, 479 00:34:51,384 --> 00:34:53,020 He just Looked SO blank. 480 00:34:55,135 --> 00:34:58,728 He was a Living with a Whole Sort of Community of People Who Were 481 00:34:58,728 --> 00:35:02,679 very much Believing acid CAN Release you and, you know, 482 00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:05,992 Get to the Truth and All That stuff, 483 00:35:05,992 --> 00:35:09,863 ... and He took too much. 484 00:35:09,863 --> 00:35:12,537 And He Went up on stage 485 00:35:12,537 --> 00:35:17,247 and He just Stood there for Long stretches 486 00:35:17,247 --> 00:35:20,639 and he'd play the guitar for a bit and then he'd stop. 487 00:35:20,639 --> 00:35:23,952 He HAD SO much Damage Done, Because acid, That's What IT does to you. 488 00:35:23,952 --> 00:35:27,225 Too much acid literally Will Fry your Brains. 489 00:35:27,225 --> 00:35:31,056 # Nobody Knows where you are 490 00:35:33,890 --> 00:35:36,404 # How near or How far 491 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:44,866 # Shine on, you Crazy Diamond. # 492 00:35:47,779 --> 00:35:52,768 We Were Unable to help Syd and Probably, I will not deliberately Say, 493 00:35:52,768 --> 00:35:57,039 but HAD Our Own interests at heart, and so consequently 494 00:35:57,039 --> 00:36:02,107 Probably tried to hold on to HIM for far longer than We Should have Done. 495 00:36:03,225 --> 00:36:05,859 Syd left the band in 1,968. four hundred ninety-six 00:35:39,880 -> 00:35:45,280 Only Syd was around for one That Record, IT was a tiny Piece. 497 00:36:11,247 --> 00:36:14,160 It was a very important piece, it was the opening piece 498 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,072 of the Pink Floyd Story, and IT May well be That Pink Floyd 499 00:36:18,072 --> 00:36:20,466 Would Never have Started and Never Would have Carried on 500 00:36:20,466 --> 00:36:23,180 and nothing Would have happened. We will never know. 501 00:36:23,180 --> 00:36:29,526 He was a hindrance to the Real Band in many Ways. 502 00:36:29,526 --> 00:36:34,276 Having That said, We simply wouldn't have got to where we got to. 503 00:36:34,276 --> 00:36:36,830 There Would be no Dark Side Of The Moon if Syd 504 00:36:36,830 --> 00:36:41,380 hadn't Been around to us on Take That first major Step. 505 00:36:55,669 --> 00:36:58,662 I found IT SO upsetting working with Syd in Those days. 506 00:36:58,662 --> 00:37:02,294 It was Like Trying to ... Sort of Seeing someone drowning 507 00:37:02,294 --> 00:37:05,566 and Trying to pull out Them, but They kept on slip ... you know, 508 00:37:05,566 --> 00:37:07,962 the Hand Slipped away All the time. 509 00:37:07,962 --> 00:37:10,835 We Were Hoping That IT Would be Therapeutic for HIM 510 00:37:10,835 --> 00:37:13,469 and help HIM Might Come back. 511 00:37:13,469 --> 00:37:16,343 Trying ... IT was Like Trying to Bring HIM back. 512 00:37:16,343 --> 00:37:18,179 "Come back, Syd, Come back." 513 00:37:25,004 --> 00:37:28,795 And there was likely to be Never any way back, and That is ... 514 00:37:31,629 --> 00:37:35,380 .. quite awful to Think About. 515 00:37:35,380 --> 00:37:40,689 MUSIC GUITAR 516 00:37:59,567 --> 00:38:03,558 # You reached for the Secret too soon 517 00:38:06,512 --> 00:38:08,946 # You Cried for the moon 518 00:38:10,303 --> 00:38:15,253 # Shine on you Crazy Diamond. # 519 00:38:16,290 --> 00:38:18,566 And of Course, They loved Their ooohs, 520 00:38:18,566 --> 00:38:19,642 We just SO oooh'd Them, 521 00:38:19,642 --> 00:38:22,117 Saying, "Shine on, you Crazy Diamond," and just oooh'd 522 00:38:22,117 --> 00:38:23,873 the rest of the way. They loved ooohs. 523 00:38:27,026 --> 00:38:31,177 and Carlena Venetta, Soulful and Being Americans, 524 00:38:31,177 --> 00:38:32,694 was a wonderful Contrast 526 00:38:37,243 --> 00:38:39,718 I did not know Them from a bar of soap, 527 00:38:39,718 --> 00:38:42,393 and I didn't like their music in the beginning. 528 00:38:42,393 --> 00:38:44,867 It was All in a Minor Key, All IT was very Low, 529 00:38:44,867 --> 00:38:49,058 Everything was oohs and ahhs and. Who are these people? 530 00:38:49,058 --> 00:38:53,847 Thought I was Meticulous Motown, but this was the Most Meticulous 531 00:38:53,847 --> 00:38:57,918 four musicians that I had ever seen work before. 532 00:38:57,918 --> 00:39:01,949 And something in me Told My Head, "Venetta, 533 00:39:01,949 --> 00:39:05,181 " you're here for a reason, you must enjoy this music, 534 00:39:05,181 --> 00:39:08,055 "you must Get on with this Music, cos You're here, 536 00:39:10,171 --> 00:39:15,080 They Managed Their job to do without Getting involved in the Band 537 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,831 Politics, SO Those two very Were Good at just .. 538 00:39:18,831 --> 00:39:23,261 You know, We All Might be furious with each Other 540 00:39:26,016 --> 00:39:29,727 Dinner at the table or in the Car on the way to the Show or whatever, 541 00:39:29,727 --> 00:39:33,200 and they'd just be very, very relaxed and just Get on with IT. 542 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,716 And They Always beautifully Sang. 543 00:39:34,716 --> 00:39:39,745 One of My fondest, fondest Memories of Being with Pink Floyd 544 00:39:39,745 --> 00:39:43,018 recording Shine On You Crazy Diamond, 545 00:39:43,018 --> 00:39:47,129 Because That was the Only thing That We Actually got to Record with Them, 546 00:39:47,129 --> 00:39:49,883 as Opposed to Singing-Performing Dark Side Of The Moon. 547 00:39:49,883 --> 00:39:52,956 That was the So Great About IT thing, We Actually got on a Record. 548 00:39:52,956 --> 00:39:59,302 # Shine on, you Crazy diamond. # 549 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,036 Welcome To The Machine. 550 00:40:11,036 --> 00:40:15,067 They just wanted bits of ad-hoc animation bunged into the Show 551 00:40:15,067 --> 00:40:16,703 Willy nilly. And, of Course, 552 00:40:16,703 --> 00:40:21,493 I HAD My Little Team of animators Who are Strictly Trained to work 553 00:40:21,493 --> 00:40:25,564 to a Track, and without a Track, They do not know What to do. 554 00:40:25,564 --> 00:40:27,560 And I Used to go and tell Roger this, 555 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,591 and He said, "It does not Matter About a Track, just let Them do something." 556 00:40:33,706 --> 00:40:38,216 I Assume He made ??All That Heard having spherical stuff 557 00:40:38,216 --> 00:40:43,404 the VCS3 throbbing at the Beginning of Welcome To The Machine. 558 00:40:44,961 --> 00:40:47,515 Boom, Boom, Boom, Boom ... All of That stuff. 559 00:40:47,515 --> 00:40:50,069 HE CLICKS AND WHIRS 560 00:40:52,264 --> 00:40:57,414 When it came to Welcome To The Machine, 561 00:40:57,414 --> 00:41:02,122 I Think Roger was really Getting into HIS synthesisers. 562 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,353 So, hence you have all these different effects. 563 00:41:09,826 --> 00:41:15,293 I Mean, some of These noises are, to me, just futuristic. 564 00:41:17,250 --> 00:41:20,202 I loved that machine. 565 00:41:20,202 --> 00:41:22,717 I Used a Lot IT back in the Day. 566 00:41:22,717 --> 00:41:28,265 I've still got one. It's still good for wind and explosions. 567 00:41:28,265 --> 00:41:31,777 throbbing 568 00:41:31,777 --> 00:41:34,053 See, and the throb 569 00:41:34,053 --> 00:41:39,760 Basically What is Roger Would have Played on Bass. 570 00:41:42,035 --> 00:41:45,028 He adds to IT later on with the Real Bass. 571 00:41:45,028 --> 00:41:48,619 throbbing AND BASS 572 00:41:50,576 --> 00:41:53,410 The Only Real Instruments That are really on there are 573 00:41:53,410 --> 00:41:55,166 Dave's acoustics. 574 00:41:55,166 --> 00:41:56,642 'One, two, Three, four ...' 575 00:41:56,642 --> 00:41:59,555 GUITAR 576 00:42:02,070 --> 00:42:05,263 DRUMS 577 00:42:07,178 --> 00:42:09,813 To Add a bit More to the aggression of the Song, 578 00:42:09,813 --> 00:42:13,924 and the timps Cymbals Were added. 579 00:42:20,749 --> 00:42:24,141 It just sounded very Angry Like a Song to me, Always did. 580 00:42:24,141 --> 00:42:25,258 Very Angry. 581 00:42:25,258 --> 00:42:28,651 Somebody That was something out of Getting Their system. 582 00:42:28,651 --> 00:42:31,645 # Welcome, My Son 583 00:42:32,722 --> 00:42:37,512 # Welcome to the Machine 584 00:42:43,099 --> 00:42:45,774 # Where have you Been? 585 00:42:47,449 --> 00:42:50,922 # It's All We know right where you've been 586 00:42:53,476 --> 00:42:57,268 This Particular Creature I Created, 587 00:42:57,268 --> 00:42:59,623 I Remember Showing IT to the Gang, 588 00:42:59,623 --> 00:43:02,616 Sort of Who Went Along with Everything I said at That Point, 589 00:43:02,616 --> 00:43:05,610 They did not Correct Sort of anything. 590 00:43:05,610 --> 00:43:07,884 Roger, particularly, That Has this idea 591 00:43:07,884 --> 00:43:10,718 if you hire an artist, 592 00:43:10,718 --> 00:43:12,754 you do not try and Change What That artist does, 593 00:43:12,754 --> 00:43:15,148 you hire an artist for What He does. 594 00:43:15,148 --> 00:43:20,616 Gerry Has a very Similar kind of bolshie Attitude ... 595 00:43:20,616 --> 00:43:25,605 Towards All status quo and All the Powers That be That I do. 596 00:43:25,605 --> 00:43:31,193 # So, welcome ... 597 00:43:31,193 --> 00:43:34,984 # To the Machine. # 598 00:43:34,984 --> 00:43:37,539 And the sea of blood that comes towards us 599 00:43:37,539 --> 00:43:40,452 and crashes through the steel towers. 600 00:43:40,452 --> 00:43:41,969 God Knows What's About IT. 601 00:43:41,969 --> 00:43:46,997 But I Thought IT was a very kind of a strong Image, a sea of Blood. 602 00:43:46,997 --> 00:43:52,945 I really did Piece by Piece Add the animation, so when I'd done 603 00:43:52,945 --> 00:43:57,055 the sea of Blood, said Roger Probably We need IT a bit longer. 604 00:44:01,446 --> 00:44:05,796 So then the sea of Blood HAD to Turn into hands, Praying, 605 00:44:05,796 --> 00:44:07,233 grasping hands, 606 00:44:07,233 --> 00:44:10,187 kind of lost Hopeless hands, I suppose, 607 00:44:10,187 --> 00:44:13,498 Searching for some god or some reason to IT All. 608 00:44:17,250 --> 00:44:19,127 You Could Say That To Welcome The Machine 609 00:44:19,127 --> 00:44:23,038 is Only About My Experience in the Music Industry ... 610 00:44:24,475 --> 00:44:27,947 It's not, IT's About All of Our experience 611 00:44:27,947 --> 00:44:30,701 in the Face of That monstrous, 612 00:44:30,701 --> 00:44:34,972 That thing Grinding Chews us up and spits us out. 613 00:44:42,355 --> 00:44:46,107 In the Meetings That Storm and I HAD, one of the Topics 614 00:44:46,107 --> 00:44:49,339 Somebody was Getting Burnt in the Business, you know, 615 00:44:49,339 --> 00:44:53,012 Which was an Expression at the time. "Man, I've Been Burned." 616 00:44:53,012 --> 00:44:59,158 You know, SO, what more logical, kind of, concept, if you like, 617 00:44:59,158 --> 00:45:02,949 Would be than two Men shaking hands and is one of Them Getting Burnt? 618 00:45:02,949 --> 00:45:06,781 And both We Went, "Yeah!" Maybe Because IT was SO outrageous. 619 00:45:06,781 --> 00:45:09,495 And These are the days before computers, 620 00:45:09,495 --> 00:45:11,530 SO IT Meant Setting a MAN on Fire, Which We did. 621 00:45:11,530 --> 00:45:14,524 Yeah, IT was not very Difficult. Issuing Orders from the Bunker, 622 00:45:14,524 --> 00:45:16,639 IT's really Easy. "Over the top, Men." 623 00:45:21,628 --> 00:45:26,258 Anyway, Done That was for Real in a Studio lot in Hollywood. 624 00:45:26,258 --> 00:45:30,688 What Could be More than absent a Studio Lot? 625 00:45:32,883 --> 00:45:36,076 I believe IT was a Warner Brothers Lot . 626 00:45:36,076 --> 00:45:37,233 I was doing a Lot 627 00:45:37,233 --> 00:45:39,628 of Fire work in Those days, 628 00:45:39,628 --> 00:45:41,823 and I HAD the Special Suits 629 00:45:41,823 --> 00:45:43,140 All this stuff and 630 00:45:43,140 --> 00:45:46,852 for full Envelop Fire, but a partial is basically, 631 00:45:46,852 --> 00:45:51,003 you know, a safe Pretty, Pretty Easy one to do. 632 00:45:51,003 --> 00:45:53,797 And ... In most cases. 633 00:45:53,797 --> 00:45:58,147 He HAD ... a Team of 20 people around him with fire extinguishers, 634 00:45:58,147 --> 00:46:00,782 Ready to Deal with any emergency. 635 00:46:00,782 --> 00:46:02,936 MAN The Effects Will Step out 636 00:46:02,936 --> 00:46:06,808 and He's got a wand About That Long with a Fire on the end of it, 637 00:46:06,808 --> 00:46:10,719 They and go, "We're Ready, Action, and He just touches the Three 638 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,071 or four spots Like That, steps out, Everything is burning, 639 00:46:14,071 --> 00:46:19,380 and IT's still a Picture, SO ... Shake shaking hands - 640 00:46:19,380 --> 00:46:20,857 nothing to IT. 641 00:46:20,857 --> 00:46:24,888 And After I HAD About shot, I suppose, 15 shots, 642 00:46:24,888 --> 00:46:27,961 and 15 times for somebody to catch fire is rather a lot, 643 00:46:27,961 --> 00:46:29,638 Suddenly a Gust of Breeze Came up. 644 00:46:29,638 --> 00:46:32,591 And the fire whipped round his face. 645 00:46:32,591 --> 00:46:35,066 There's a Funny thing About Fire - When IT Gets in your Face 646 00:46:35,066 --> 00:46:38,857 you 're going to move, that's just part of the thing. 647 00:46:38,857 --> 00:46:42,409 And once IT IT blew around, I Turned as fast as I Could. 648 00:46:42,409 --> 00:46:46,041 He fell to the Ground, absolutely Smothered with foam 649 00:46:46,041 --> 00:46:48,875 and Blankets and Everything Like That. He got up and he said, 650 00:46:48,875 --> 00:46:50,671 "That's IT, no More." 651 00:46:50,671 --> 00:46:52,866 Luckily, I got in the IT can. 652 00:46:52,866 --> 00:46:55,141 And here We See HIS Foot leaving frame. 653 00:46:55,141 --> 00:46:59,291 And That's a Sort of surreal Image of Absence in Itself , you know? 654 00:46:59,291 --> 00:47:00,808 But That's Real Absence. 655 00:47:00,808 --> 00:47:03,083 Out of frame, out of sight, you know? 656 00:47:03,083 --> 00:47:04,679 And you just kept shooting? 657 00:47:04,679 --> 00:47:06,037 I just kept shooting, yeah. 658 00:47:06,037 --> 00:47:08,152 I Mean, I HAD to Get this shot and IT HAD to be right. 659 00:47:08,152 --> 00:47:13,700 So, you know, I did not have time to be Concerned with HIS Singed body. 660 00:47:13,700 --> 00:47:17,132 You know, if They Want Somebody burning and they're going to Pay me, 661 00:47:17,132 --> 00:47:21,003 I Don ' t care if they have an artist drawing the fire. 662 00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:30,702 When Developing a Theme of Absence, 663 00:47:30,702 --> 00:47:33,096 IT Seemed therefore Appropriate that in the end, 664 00:47:33,096 --> 00:47:34,613 Should the cover be absent. 665 00:47:34,613 --> 00:47:37,767 The ... UM ... Got it here. 666 00:47:37,767 --> 00:47:39,921 The ... UM ... 667 00:47:39,921 --> 00:47:43,793 This is the end Piece, or the end Part of the puzzle. 668 00:47:43,793 --> 00:47:46,188 Anyway, the Record Company, Especially in America, 669 00:47:46,188 --> 00:47:47,625 Went Complete apeshit. 670 00:47:47,625 --> 00:47:50,658 "You Mean wrap Wish You Were Here in Black Opaque Shrink wrap 671 00:47:50,658 --> 00:47:54,130 "you can not See SO IT? Are you completely fucking mad? " 672 00:47:54,130 --> 00:47:57,403 But you HAD to have a Sticker That said What IT was, 673 00:47:57,403 --> 00:48:00,237 otherwise the factory wouldn't pack it properly, 674 00:48:00,237 --> 00:48:01,714 let alone the Fans Buy IT. 675 00:48:03,310 --> 00:48:06,862 I Hear Stories That there are some aficionados ... 676 00:48:08,259 --> 00:48:12,410 .. Who have ... Who have HAD HAD Wish You Were Here for many a Year now, 677 00:48:12,410 --> 00:48:16,441 and have Carefully slit the Opaque Vinyl Shrink wrap 678 00:48:16,441 --> 00:48:18,756 and the Extracted Record 679 00:48:18,756 --> 00:48:21,629 and have not Actually Seen the cover in 35 years. 680 00:48:21,629 --> 00:48:25,541 Brilliant. That's really absent. 681 00:48:38,432 --> 00:48:41,625 Well, That's the one I CAN quite Clearly Remember . 682 00:48:44,778 --> 00:48:47,811 That was me strumming a 12 string guitar, 683 00:48:47,811 --> 00:48:51,124 Which I'd recently Purchased from a Guy I know, 684 00:48:51,124 --> 00:48:53,719 Coming up with and, you know, the opening riff 685 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,115 of Wish You Were Here. 686 00:48:58,428 --> 00:48:59,466 And again, Like ... 687 00:48:59,466 --> 00:49:02,499 Like the four Notes at the Beginning of Shine On You Crazy Diamond, 688 00:49:02,499 --> 00:49:04,774 Other People start going, "Hey, 689 00:49:04,774 --> 00:49:06,689 "That's Good, you've got something there." 690 00:49:12,676 --> 00:49:16,308 And I said to HIM, "What's That You're Playing? That's really nice." 691 00:49:16,308 --> 00:49:17,985 And He Played IT. 692 00:49:17,985 --> 00:49:20,778 And I said, "That's really Good. 693 00:49:21,935 --> 00:49:24,131 "Maybe I Should try and do something with IT." 695 00:49:29,678 --> 00:49:34,349 Those Chords and Putting in to the ... in to the Whole thing, and Roger ... 696 00:49:36,943 --> 00:49:39,696 did .. Those Brilliant Words, and there We Were. 697 00:49:39,696 --> 00:49:44,286 # Did They Get you to Trade your heroes for ghosts 698 00:49:45,803 --> 00:49:47,958 # Hot ashes for trees 699 00:49:49,754 --> 00:49:52,069 # Hot Air for a cool Breeze 700 00:49:53,067 --> 00:49:54,983 # Cold comfort for Change 701 00:49:56,260 --> 00:49:58,934 # And did you exchange 702 00:49:58,934 --> 00:50:01,648 # A Walk on part in the war 703 00:50:01,648 --> 00:50:05,160 # For a lead role in a cage? # 704 00:50:13,901 --> 00:50:18,570 That collaboration Between David and I, I think is, you know, 705 00:50:18,570 --> 00:50:22,881 really Good. All bits of IT are really, really Good. 706 00:50:22,881 --> 00:50:24,557 So I ' m very happy about it. 707 00:50:34,614 --> 00:50:38,725 # So, you Think SO CAN tell you 708 00:50:40,801 --> 00:50:43,276 Heaven from hell # 709 00:50:44,832 --> 00:50:47,626 # Blue Skies from Pain 710 00:50:48,624 --> 00:50:50,899 # Can you tell a green Field 711 00:50:52,016 --> 00:50:54,251 # From a Cold, steel rail? 712 00:50:56,007 --> 00:50:59,121 # A smile from a Veil? 713 00:50:59,121 --> 00:51:02,074 # Do you Think you CAN tell? # 714 00:51:02,074 --> 00:51:04,708 I Think Most of the Songs That I've Ever Written 715 00:51:04,708 --> 00:51:08,141 All Pose Similar questions. 716 00:51:08,141 --> 00:51:13,928 Can you Free Yourself Enough to be Able to Experience the Reality 717 00:51:13,928 --> 00:51:17,041 of life as IT Goes on before you 718 00:51:17,041 --> 00:51:21,551 and with you, and as you go on as Part of IT or not? 719 00:51:21,551 --> 00:51:28,456 Because if you can not, you Stand on square one until you die. 720 00:51:28,456 --> 00:51:32,088 And I know That May sound Like Bullshit, 721 00:51:32,088 --> 00:51:34,402 That's What but the Song is About . 722 00:51:36,558 --> 00:51:39,910 # How I wish How I wish you Were here 723 00:51:42,425 --> 00:51:46,376 # We're just two lost Souls Swimming in a fish bowl 724 00:51:46,376 --> 00:51:48,451 Year After Year # 725 00:51:50,566 --> 00:51:54,159 # Running over the Ground Same old 726 00:51:54,159 --> 00:51:55,875 # What We have found? 727 00:51:55,875 --> 00:51:58,509 # The Same old fears 728 00:51:58,509 --> 00:52:01,104 # Wish you Were here. # 729 00:52:02,659 --> 00:52:05,653 All the Songs are Encouraging me, 730 00:52:05,653 --> 00:52:08,128 I guess I write Them for me, 731 00:52:08,128 --> 00:52:11,400 and IT's to Encourage Myself ... 732 00:52:12,598 --> 00:52:17,706 .. not to accept a lead role in a cage ... 733 00:52:19,303 --> 00:52:22,974 .. but to go on demanding of Myself 734 00:52:22,974 --> 00:52:26,807 That I Keep auditioning 735 00:52:26,807 --> 00:52:31,196 for the walk on part in the war, because that's where I want to be. 736 00:52:31,196 --> 00:52:33,910 I Want to be in the trenches. 737 00:52:33,910 --> 00:52:36,864 I do not Want to be at headquarters or I do not Want to be sitting 738 00:52:36,864 --> 00:52:38,979 in a Hotel somewhere. 739 00:52:38,979 --> 00:52:43,490 I Want to be ... I Want to be Engaged ... 740 00:52:44,647 --> 00:52:47,361 .. Probably, I Might Say, 741 00:52:47,361 --> 00:52:50,953 in a way That My father Would Approve of. 742 00:52:58,935 --> 00:53:03,206 It's a very simple Sort of Country Song, if you Like. 743 00:53:03,206 --> 00:53:06,000 It's still ... Because of resonance ITS 744 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:10,271 and the emotional IT Carries Weight, 745 00:53:10,271 --> 00:53:14,022 IT is one of our best songs. 746 00:53:17,614 --> 00:53:21,844 People do attach to IT Internal Lots of feelings That They May have, 747 00:53:21,844 --> 00:53:26,115 and they may not be entirely sure what it's about, and neither am I. 748 00:53:26,115 --> 00:53:28,988 I Mean, I'm Only telling you What's About IT for me. 749 00:53:30,625 --> 00:53:33,578 But there's no reason why Other People should not put 750 00:53:33,578 --> 00:53:38,008 Other Interpretations on IT, Which Could be just as Valid. 751 00:53:42,279 --> 00:53:44,474 Although Shine On You Crazy Diamond 752 00:53:44,474 --> 00:53:47,787 is the one That is specifically About Syd, and Wish You Were Here 754 00:53:51,459 --> 00:53:54,372 .. I can not Sing IT without Thinking About Syd. 755 00:54:07,623 --> 00:54:11,614 My Memory is That I Came in to the Studio 756 00:54:11,614 --> 00:54:15,845 and there was this Guy Standing there in a Gabardine raincoat, 757 00:54:15,845 --> 00:54:20,754 and a large, large bloke, and I HAD no idea Who was IT. 758 00:54:20,754 --> 00:54:24,146 And Surprisingly, no-one's Saying, "Who's That person? 759 00:54:24,146 --> 00:54:27,938 "What's He doing Wandering around All Our gear in the Studio?" 760 00:54:27,938 --> 00:54:32,607 And then ... then Coming in to HIM the control room and standing around, 761 00:54:32,607 --> 00:54:39,113 and How Remarkable, How Long IT was before anyone woke up Actually. 762 00:54:39,113 --> 00:54:45,260 Finally , I think it was David who said, "Nick, do you recognise him?" 763 00:54:46,257 --> 00:54:50,967 And I Looked and I Think I shrugged Either My Shoulders 765 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,954 and said, "It's Syd". 766 00:54:56,954 --> 00:54:58,909 And We just Sort of Stood there, 767 00:54:58,909 --> 00:55:01,942 or SAT Were there and just Shell-shocked, Basically. 768 00:55:03,619 --> 00:55:06,692 And then until Somebody Thought of something to Say to HIM. 769 00:55:09,127 --> 00:55:13,676 And then We Were All unbelievably shocked at HIS appearance. 770 00:55:14,874 --> 00:55:18,027 I Mean, I did not Recognise HIM, I did not know IT was HIM. 771 00:55:18,027 --> 00:55:19,504 But IT was Pretty ... 772 00:55:22,138 --> 00:55:24,214 .. Pretty Affecting, really. 773 00:55:24,214 --> 00:55:25,889 I Mean, Roger and Dave Cried. 774 00:55:27,527 --> 00:55:31,557 You know, this slim, elegant ... 775 00:55:32,795 --> 00:55:37,344 .. if bedraggled and Dazed That person I HAD Last Seen, HAD Turned 776 00:55:37,344 --> 00:55:43,252 rather Balloon shaped, and HAD no eyebrows and not much Hair, and ... 777 00:55:53,668 --> 00:55:56,861 And there is the Photograph of HIM in the Studio at the time, 778 00:55:56,861 --> 00:56:01,770 and if you Looked at Syd in Early '67 779 00:56:01,770 --> 00:56:05,402 and then Syd, SO IT was Different. 780 00:56:08,076 --> 00:56:12,147 It was a Great Loss and, you know ... 781 00:56:14,343 --> 00:56:18,493 .. Imagining What He Would have gone on to do is. .. 782 00:56:18,493 --> 00:56:22,045 That Speculating on, if you Like, is ... 783 00:56:22,045 --> 00:56:24,759 He Could have SO Become Great. 784 00:57:06,506 --> 00:57:11,096 It's kind of nice Actually Standing up here with These Three guys 785 00:57:11,096 --> 00:57:13,851 After All These years. 786 00:57:15,288 --> 00:57:17,921 Standing to be counted with the rest of you. 787 00:57:19,718 --> 00:57:24,068 Anyway, we're doing this for everyone Who's not here, 788 00:57:24,068 --> 00:57:26,263 but particularly, of Course, for Syd. 789 00:57:30,414 --> 00:57:34,445 HE intones64045

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