All language subtitles for La.Cicciolina.Goettliche.Skandalnudel

So, Cicciolina,
how can we achieve world peace?

Give me a banana!

Cicciolona gets the hormones
raging, she lets them dance.

And she changed the world.

Let's not waste any time.

Let's not be shy and kiss.

Cicciolina unveiled something
that's usually suppressed.

It was revealed thanks to her.

The scandal is

that the human body is
commoditised.

She is the strange,

baroque fruit of a system
filled with freedoms.

How many votes did you get?

I hope a lot!

What's special to
me about my mother Cicciolina

is that she broke the rules
at a very bigoted time.

She flirts with the camera,

that's one of the many elements
that made her a diva.

She's a small angel
that fell from heaven.

She became an icon worldwide.

Like the statue of liberty.

Cicciolina is a fascinating woman.

She is a very important
figure in pop history for me.

I think Ilona Staller was so
famous because

she subverted certain rules,

the depths of our
Catholic cultural roots.

It's always about
the discrepancy between

arousal and shame.

The more women take their clothes
off, the uglier they look.

I think it could only happen
like this in Italy.

Our story doesn't

begin in Italy but in Budapest.

Hungary, 1951.

Ilona Staller is born smiling
and without crying in a country

separated from the West

by the Iron Curtain.

Ilona's mother was a midwife.

That's perhaps why she
was later convinced

that sex means lust
for life and happiness.

It's also a way to escape
the grey life in a country

that doesn't have a democracy yet.

The mother saw a bright future
in the limelight for her daughter

and encouraged her to start
a career as a model.

Posing and smiling
is easy for Ilona

and she is quickly hired by
the Hungarian state photo agency.

The beauty of the woman who
waitressed at Hotel Contintental

attracted the attention of the
country's intelligence service.

She is recruited as a spy

to seduce foreign politicians.

Ilona's fulfils her mission

with ease.

As adventurous as she is

she fell in love with Salvatore,

a sales agents from Calabria.

She married at 19.

As a wife, Ilona could finally
follow her dreams of freedom

and moves to Italy.

A country which had fascinated
her since she was small.

The couple settled in Milan

where Ilona continued to
work as a model.

The marriage to Salvatore
ended quickly.

After the divorce Ilona went to
the 'dolce vita' capital: Rome.

She was
photographed in racy poses.

Her uninhibited snapshots were
printed in erotic magazines.

When she came to Rome she didn't
think about becoming Cicciolina.

She wanted to be an actress

and didn't want to be associated
with one specific character.

Riccardo Schicchi entered
Ilona's life.

A young photographer who saw the
Hungarian beauty as his muse.

He eternalised Ilona in erotic and
exotic photo collections.

Schicchi became
Ilona's official manager

and her life partner.

All of the ideas that came from
them were both genius and honest.

They really
believed in this revolution.

Riccardo knew that there was no
one else who embodied this figure.

She created a type of diva that
was imitated by many later on.

Staller and Schicchi got more and
more success with their photos.

When I met Schicchi
for the first time he toured in

editorial offices with a suitcase
filled with her nude pictures.

He knew a lot
about communication,

diplomacy, and sex.

Cicciolina wouldn't exist
without him.

Ilona became the host of a
private channel called Radio Luna

in the middle of the 70s,
an erotic talk show.

That's where she
transformed into Cicciolina.

Let's have a listen to
what Cicciolina has to say.

Cicciolini,

do you want to go to bed with me?

Tonight, alone with you.

I'm giving you lots
and lots of kisses.

I was very playful back then
and also very daring.

In around 1975.

We want to pleasure ourselves
together,

and when we are alone
we want to pleasure ourselves.

Long live
masturbation, Cicciolini!

Lust alone is great as well.

You are kind of the
'Callas of sex.'

You have a distinctive voice

that many listen to.

- Is that true?
- Yes, that's true.

- You are very popular.
- I'm a missionary of love.

Here is an example
of your work.

Did you come from Hungary

to moan in Italy?

In a way you're a social worker,

- a nurse.
- No, a missionary.

What was my show on Luna
good for back then?

I practically taught
Sex Ed on air.

I later suggested the same
education at schools

and made a legislative proposal
for all the Parliament.

It's on ice today

and many
people don't even know it.

There was no one like her
when she came onstage.

It was perfect timing.

She arrived when everyone started
to talk of the sexual revolution.

Italy didn't react

and then she came along
and showed everyone.

She represented
a change in conventions.

She talked to anyone about love,

and gave direct sex advice
to girls on the radio.

That made her
unique and unimitable.

The trigger of the scandal was

when I talked to a young
girl on the radio who asked me

'Cicciolina, what's masturbation?'

I described it
without getting obscene

and they were about to stop
the show and said it was obscene.

You can't talk
about something like that!

Hello, Ilona?

This is Laura.

I will call later.

I want to talk to you a bit.

I'm only 15 but I
want to be as free as you.

The scandal was tempered
because she was so sweet.

She sensed the loneliness
of her callers,

those who called her directly

or the inmates who sent her letters.

You don't know how arousing
it is for someone in prison

to hear you on
the radio at night.

The inmates wrote me letters, one
wrote that we should get married.

Another one wrote about
problems in prison.

When I became a Parliament
member later on

I wanted inmates
to have the option of being alone

with their girlfriend or wife
at least once or twice a month.

Good night, my Cicciolini.

Sweet dreams from
your Cicciolina.

Lots and lots

of kisses for you.

What do you call them?
Cicciolini?

Did you invent the word or do
you have an assistant for that?

I invented it, yes.

Is it a translation from Hungarian
or did it just come about?

I just thought of it.

- Spontaneously.
- Yes, because I felt it.

I don't remember how I
invented the name Cicciolina.

But I have been
Cicciolina ever since.

She divided the world into good
Cicciolini and bad Cicciolini.

But everyone was Cicciolini.

There are many Cicciolini in the
world and Cicciolinas in Italy.

And in Hungary?

It's enough to be a Cicciolina.

Inside, we are all Cicciolini.

She messed around when talking
about the good and bad ones.

The good ones were those
who could make love well

and also respected women.

The bad Cicciolini

were those that mistreated women.

That's what she told the men.

The good Cicciolinas
were slightly lesbian.

Look at Cicciolina!
She is completely naked!

Shameless woman!
Showing her bottom!

Ilona provoked the bourgeois
rules in many different ways.

It came to her instinctively.

She provoked with her clothes,

they were mostly very loose,

she did that on purpose
to cause a scandal.

I took walks,

I walked on pedestrian bridges

and presented myself with a
small transparent dress.

I raised it and the lorries
almost crashed into each other

because the drivers saw me naked.

Who are you?

She had to walk like that.

You didn't see a lot
of women doing that!

Look, it's Cicciolina!

She caused scenes on the
road with the police all the time,

dealt with reports at the station,
and offended old ladies.

There was a traffic
problem every time.

Oh, Cicciolina! You are great!

I never really
liked wearing clothes,

I often went out of the
house without underwear.

Nudity was beautiful to me.

Cicciolina is not only shocking,

Cicciolina is scandalous!

She overwhelms with a body,

an image, a face,

movements which
no one thought

to associate with scandal.

And yes she is scandalous
and shocking.

Ilona Staller took on the traits
of a cult icon, making her famous.

She always had a floral wreath
on her light blonde hair

and flirted with
a teddy bear in her arms.

That's how she presented
pristine purity.

I always had the
teddy bear with me

because it gave me
a sense of security.

I took it to bed with me,
we slept together.

The blonde hair, the lipstick,

always very red and shiny,

created the idea

of the forbidden fruit.

It also announced

that the
perfect moment had arrived.

The best moment to
lose one's innocence.

When you look at the east European
origins of Femen and Cicciolina

you can see a similar model
in women's iconography.

Women are heavily made up,

wearing high heels, made up eyes
and flower wreaths.

On the one hand is Cicciolina

who decided to
preserve this model,

and then there's Femen,
who are determined

to emancipate from that
model and to go against it.

Cicciolina's trademark
is the floral wreath.

the diadem.

She appeared like a Botticelli
goddess from the Renaissance.

She seemed like a reproduction

that was initially more spiritual
than corporeal.

Where does the
floral wreath come from?

We went to a shopping centre
which sold them back then

and I instinctively
put it on my head.

The salesperson said:
'no, you put it on your neck!'

and I said that I liked
it on my hair.

That's how I got
my first floral wreath.

This appearance makes
her into a sort of allegory.

An allegory of flora,

and this flowery appearance

must be so archetypical

that you can make a
photo series as Cicciolina

which is what was done

with Australian supermodel Kerr.

She has nothing to do with Femen.

When Cicciolina puts on
the floral wreath

she uses it to make her
image sweeter.

We have it to create a contrast

and not to make the most common
association with the wreath.

Cicciolina was happy,
relaxed, cool, and easy.

The Femen might have wreaths
and texts on their breasts,

they might use
transgressive symbols,

but they will never
create the sweet, peaceful

and cheerful revolution
that Cicciolina did.

She always talked about love.

She never talked about sex but
rather about freeing eternal love.

Cicciolina took part in more

and more unambiguous films
along with the erotic photos.

Ilona also did live performances,

erotic spectacles

which got a lot of criticism

but still attracted the masses.

Cicciolina embodied a
limitless receptivity.

That's connected to her
not accepting

any taboos.

There just aren't any limits

and that's why it's
not always in good taste.

Ilona staller accused of obscenity

The priest orders:
Go away from me, Cicciolina!

Cicciolina did things
that were unthinkable at the time.

She had sex publically.

It impressed me
a great deal, seeing that.

In order to understand
and interpret Cicciolina

you must start from
Cicciolina's world.

Toys, animals,

Cicciolina's zoo, the
real and the mythical ones.

A type of farm where Cicciolina's
performance was fleshed out.

I had tigers, lions,

snakes, dogs,

and cats.

I love animals a lot and think

that animals don't betray you,

unlike humans.

I supplied quails
for the pythons.

Riccardo's mother bought them
and put them in a bag.

The python lived in a terrarium,
a pyramid,

you had to open the terrarium
and throw the quails in.

The rest was up to the python.
It was gruesome.

I spoke to the pythons,
I kissed them.

Someone said that was disgusting
because they're slippery

but they aren't slippery.

They are wonderful and beautiful.

Her secret was being beautiful
but not too beautiful.

You could get close to her and
she was very approachable.

The requirement was to be one of
the good Cicciolinis.

She didn't take to
her heels when she was naked.

She presented herself.

You touched her like a relic.

Sometimes it even seemed that way
to me, like touching a holy relic.

Her fans could get close to her,
talk to her, touch her.

She didn't think that was a bad
thing, she thought it was natural.

The physical relationship to her
fans was fundamental for her.

She never stepped back when
someone asked for a kiss

or wanted to touch her breast,
even during performances,

and yet things
didn't get aggressive.

She came to the audience
from the stage

and let fans put
their hands on her.

She table danced
in front of us all

and didn't hold back.

Security kept coming in
to disrupt the performance.

It wasn't really a
performance anymore,

it wasn't virtual anymore.

It was very physical.

The police came
at the end, Cicciolini,

and took me to the station and I
had to stay there for three hours!

I was shocked,
and all the papers wrote about it.

Why didn't you hug them?

- Because I was talking.
- You didn't hug them...

if you had hugged them they
wouldn't have taken you.

But why did they take
me to the station?

Maybe because I wanted to
talk about love?

No, no, I don't think so. The cops
show understanding when it's love.

It wasn't a scandal for me,
but it was for others.

Then the police came,

the Carabinieri, and told me

that this house must be closed,

because it's public obscenity.

I was charged 40 times.

It wasn't a scandal for me
but it was for the others.

A scandal from my 'non-scandal.'

Pretty absurd!

I see it as a PR stunt,

it's a commercial
and capitalist thing.

'Capitalist' seems
somewhat exaggerated.

Capitalist, yes, because she's
part of the system.

She uses sex, consumes
it, and calls it love.

She was attacked.

She was attacked very often.

Derided by nuns, feminists,

and chastity movements.

I love you, man.

I love your hands,
that know the smoke,

I love your morning,

your wild, strong perfume.

I love you, man.

Cicciolina has a tendency to
always be sweet and soft

with her small teddy bear

and her small bird.

She is what you expect of a
woman: very gentle,

always smiling, and tantalising.

Cicciolina is an extreme case

But she is a case for
women's self-determination.

Self-determination means

that there are no borders.

I was a feminist in my own way.

I always said my body
belongs to me

and that I decide over it.

I'm a democratic feminist, I see
everything with rosy glasses.

Especially sex.

Very rosy, very beautiful,
very clear,

very ' a la ' Cicciolina.

I like it.

Cicciolina was very skilled.

She was very talented
in promoting her own thing

and she knew the effect
that she had.

She knew she was
magnetic on camera,

journalist notebooks,

the limelights on stage.

In short, she could
handle the public well.

She knew that the figure
struck home,

that it had a life of its own.

Everyone came up to her, everyone
knew her, and that was based on

an optimal PR strategy,
to use today's PR jargon.

Cicciolina furthered her career on
TV despite her x-rated shows.

She was a frequent guest on
the RAI channel.

In 1978 she became
the first woman in

Italy to show
her breasts on TV.

That immediately provoked
another scandal.

Sex in TV
Trial against Ilona Staller.

When I think about Femen,

the first woman who showed her
naked breasts as a form of protest

was Ilona Staller as Cicciolina.

We should realise what
an influential figure she was.

I don't think Cicciolina changed
the position of women in society,

maybe I'm wrong.

The game became a
tennis match with Cicciolina,

wherein the ball got hit from
one side to the other.

The other side is the media

who aren't just dealing
with an actress,

a bone of contention,

but with a counterpart

who knows
how to provoke very well.

What is a scandal?

Etymologically, a scandal is a
bone of contention,

which causes us to
trip up sometimes.

The scandal makes
us stray from the

right path and makes

us stumble.

Come in, Ilona. Take a seat.

- Hello, Cicciolino.
- No here, Ilona, here.

Judge, Life consists
of singular people.

And here is the woman we are
talking about: Ilona Staller.

She had charges pressed against
her by a judge 3 days ago

in Naples for a performance
which can be seen all over Italy

and her radio shows.

Here is Ilona,
very calm and relaxed.

Oh yes, Cicciolina!

Don't look so strict.
Ilona is here, completely calm.

I don't look strict, it's more a
look filled with disrespect.

I complained to Schicchi.

Are we bringing our actress on
TV to let her be insulted?

And he said it wasn't a problem,

because the critics also
became secret fans.

We have an important
social function.

We ensure that they feel better.

They evade their taxes,
see a porn star, and think,

'I'm better than her,

I'm actually not a bad person!'

This year the red scandal

shirt goes to Ilona Staller

who stunned her Cicciolinis

with her almost naked body.

Cicciolina's shows were enriched
by vague political messages

against nuclear energy
and for more sexual freedom

in the early 80s.

I always spoke about politics.

Against animal testing,
smog, cutting down trees.

Politics was always a concern,

but because I wasn't
in Parliament

I always expressed it
in my performances.

During a recycling event
in a full stadium in Milan

Cicciolina burned the Soviet
and US flag

and teased sexual
games with her snake.

That was too much for
the organisers.

I think that in the
beginning Cicciolina

didn't create controversy
for her career

but rather

because she
entered different spheres.

In politics. That annoyed a nation
mostly ruled by parties in the

centre that were left-leaning but
were also Christian democrats.

It's pedagogic culture,

not just Catholic culture,
but also the Communist world.

Two big churches that
oversaw morality.

In 1983 Cicciolina and Riccardo
Schicchi accessed

the profitable home video market.

They launch
'Diva Futura, ' the first

Italian production company
specialised in pornography.

The beginning of hardcore films
on video cassette.

The transition into porn
happened mostly because

it kept getting harder to provoke.

Society had changed with time.

You had to go further
to keep the topic alive.

The creation of Diva Futura

had a fundamental element

that presented the moralistic
discourse in Italy back then.

Diva Futura was Italy's first
production company

that saw pornography as Art.

Some of our artists back then
made 2 films per year at the most

but earned three times as much
as those who worked in 150 films.

It was integral that Ricchardo
Schicchi elevated it to an art.

After a certain point

Cicciolina herself became the
soul of the hardcore porn genre.

She was an object of desire which
made Jeff Koons fall for her.

Sex became an
end in itself for Cicciolina,

the counterpart to fitness.

In the middle
of this blonde thing,

this Venus figure,

this graceful
very delicate body,

which was also
Baroque perfection.

There are elements
in porn that

would be censored today.

Sodomy, faecal aesthetics,

which was fundamentally
shocking as well.

She had transgressed

certain boundaries

which were important to her

because being
boundary-free,

which was her personality,

was an important characteristic.

That's where she
sees freedom.

Cicciolina is a
symbol of pornography.

She is an actress

but she belongs to the first
victims of porn in a way

because that's what it is and
it has influenced her entire life.

I never thought
she harmed society.

Porn is not unjust,
porn doesn't wage war,

so I don't think she is immoral.

More amoral.

She sees her life as an artwork.

I would definitely agree
with that,

in the broadest sense,

since Art is broad.

Cicciolina
generated strong reactions.

Not just from her viewers, her
detractors, and her censors,

but also from artists,

who saw her
as an erotic revelation.

Like Federico Fellini

who described her as:

'Cicciolina is a forbidden and
outrageous dream of Italian

society, something which
ascends from the depths

with which you
have to reckon with.

Her sexuality is mythical,
not frightening.

When she sleeps with
a snake or a horse

she takes aways male fears
about their masculinity.

The constant enigmatic smiling,
like a hieroglyph,

the white of the bride or
communion dress,

give Cicciolina the opaqueness
of a foreign symbol.

Cicciolina has
completely outdone me.

I will have to make more sober and
stricter films like Bresson now.'

Another artist that was
fascinated by Cicciolina

was photographer Gianfranco Salis,

who photographed her a lot.

'In my first encounter with Ilona

I saw the ideal beauty in her.

When I photographed her a
fascinating ambivalence came out:

innocent chastity and

sexual fervor all at once.

A porn diva
presented her career

bravely and rebelliously,
and publically defended it

for the first time.

Cicciolina's beauty
served more practical goals

than
inspiring diverse artists.

She got involved with

secret agent operations
like in her youth in Budapest.

I worked there for a short time.

I realised it was quite dangerous

because sometimes
when I came home

I would notice that I was
being followed on the street.

I gave it up soon after
for fear of getting shot

or even killed.

I don't think about it a lot

because it could still be a risk

for me and my family.

There was a direct,
clear connection

between Diva Futura and
the secret agencies.

Schicchi himself told me a story
about an important U.S. politician

who was put up in a
big hotel in Rome.

Cicciolina
visited him in the suite

and did everything she had to do.

I asked Schicchi

who the politician was.

He laughed and said: 'Who knows?

Maybe Gary Hart?' He was a
presidential candidate back then.

'Are you sure? Was it him?'

I didn't find out exactly.

But Cicciolina was possibly
put on a mission with Gary Hart.

That's quite something!

Despite the success of her films

Cicciolina kept touring
in Italian theatres

and created scandals everywhere.

The only political power in Italy
to support Staller

and go against censorship was

'Partito Radicale'.

Cicciolina had legal troubles.

The free thinking party,

the radicals, defended her.

And she thanked them.

That's how she came closer
to Partito Radicale

and performed at some
promotional event.

I think she took her
clothes off there too

but that was her signature move.

The Partito Radicale

can't die! Come and join
Partito Radicale!

Partito radicale was
an anarchist party

and like all anarchist party it
was lead by one person.

It didn't believe in
authoritarian methods

but it was mostly influenced by
Marco Pannella.

Anarchist parties need a scandal.

The radicals used
the political election as

an opportunity
to scandalise in the 80s.

Ilona Staller was exactly
the right person for that.

My Cicciolini,

I am joining the Partito
Radicale today and I hope

you join it as well!

I'm waiting here for you.

Goodbye!

We never intended to get
Cicciolina into Parliament.

We didn't see the necessity.

But in 1986 we decided
to place an ad for the party.

We announced

that we are dissolving the party

if we didn't get 10,000
members in 2 months.

Cicciolina stepped in

and made a series of promotional
events for Partito Radicale.

Cicciolina wants to run for
office in the next elections!

The majority of us decided to
not to let her run, but

Pannella convinced us with a
practical argument.

'If she comes to the big political
conventions and does a striptease

and harms us, we can't
say anything because

she would
claim that's discrimination.'

I remember a radio radicale show

where Spadaccia
was sweating profusely

because he had to justify
this candidacy.

There were a few bigots,
a few squares, in the party.

They didn't understand my

sense of freedom,
my desire to talk about

sexuality and sexual freedom.

Can you give that to me?

Yes, the teddy bear.

Thanks, this goes here.

This way you are less

in your "classic" sphere.

Alright, a greeting to your

Cicciolinas and Cicciolinos.
That's what you call them, right?

Those who love nature and love
will vote for Partito Radicale.

The only party that
allows us to express

ourselves freely.

I love you.

Why did they do it?

I think one reason is

that they felt
a deep, hidden unease

in Italian society,

like a volcano about to erupt.

There were reservations
about the political class

at least the way they were
represented in parliament.

Cicciolina's campaign was like a
coven in the country and in Rome.

A never-ending carnival.

Cicciolina's driver

was dressed as Jesus.

He wore a thorn crown
and a frock.

There was something
blasphemous about it.

I remember that Cicciolina went to
the municipal building of Viterbo

where they celebrated being
freed from the Germans.

She interrupted the celebration,

the bishops and so on,
and called everyone Cicciolini.

They didn't know if they should
chase her out

or whether she was doing

what is normal in a democracy

to garner more votes.

I stood up
straight with naked tits,

everyone was supposed to see my
beauty, my beautiful breasts.

The people saw us, froze in
disbelief, and said:

'they're crazy!'

Welcome to Partito Radicale's
election spectacle!

Cicciolina has presented
herself so she

can become an assembly woman.

I knew Italians back then that
lived in Munich or Marseilles

who returned to Italy so
they could vote for Cicciolina.

The limelight that was on her
brought her to Parliament.

To everyone's surprise, Cicciolina
got 20,000 votes in June 1987

which put her
in second place in

the party list
after party head Pannella.

Staller became the first porn
star to be elected worldwide.

I remember the celebrations
when Cicciolina was elected.

It was like a Dionysian orgy.

A crowd of people carried
and paraded her triumphantly.

It was warm. Cicciolina stood in
Bernini's fountain at the end

and the
law enforcement stepped in.

Not necessarily the typical way
of celebrating a victory.

The obscenity is that there
are some people in Parliament

who don't do anything.
They are the real pigs.

When a pink piglet like
Cicciolina enters the parliament

it means there will be

a bit of colour in the Parliament.

It was an event of epic...

it had a political and medial
impact in a way.

It revealed something.

It was a revelation.

She marked the border between
what came before

and what came after.

I love you,

I'll give you a kiss.

Long live love, nature,

Cicciolina, and Cicciolino!

Colleagues asked me to accompany
her as she entered Parliament

so there wouldn't be
a negative image.

It was quite hard to

explain the customs
and rules of the parliament.

I recently met
Cicciolino Andreotti.

He's a very likeable Cicciolino.

- Likeable?
- Yes, very sweet.

- He's ironic and witty, right?
- Yes.

I remember Andreotti joked that:

'if you are
in Parliament long enough

you see things you would
have never imagined.'

You can't see the fact that she
got elected as a huge win

for women because she was
elected in a role

that goes along with the classical
female role in the patriarchy.

I don't see what the scandal is.

I respect you as a woman

but I abhor you as a delegate.

I hope this disgrace
ends as soon as possible.

Delegate Cicciolina made
sensible and wise proposals.

Nothing very complicated or
too ambitious.

They concerned
the practices in prison,

protecting the animal world,

and a general commitment towards
laws concerning inequality.

The necessary minimum
in the civil rights field.

Nothing that can be described

as subversive or scandalous.

Better known as Cicciolina.

She must have changed

because...

she has found the
man for her.

True, Cicciolino!

Cicciolina's fame

impressed U.S. artist Jeff Koons.

Their first meeting quickly
turned into a relationship.

Schicchi came to me and said:

'an important fax came from
the U.S., we have to answer.

It could be work.'

I told him to show me

and I read: 'My name is Jeff Koons.
I'm a big U.S. artist.'

And I said: 'alright, answer
and we will meet each other.'

He came to Rome and
we did wonderful things.

Jeff Koons could tell

that this is something
he needed in his work,

another taboo breach.

One taboo
is pornography, of course.

Jeff Koons
was inspired by Cicciolina.

Cicciolina is a source

of inspiration because of her
innocence and her accessability.

Cicciolina plays with
the idea of being

the inspiration for her
favourite artist.

I found him fascinating,
very charismatic and handsome.

When you fall in love with
someone you can see it all.

You put them on a pedestal
and say they're wonderful.

Cicciolina's purity was something
that excited Jeff Koons.

It's an ideology,

you can even say it's
a religion of purity.

Cicciolina, the eternal virgin.

She managed to transform
the scandal of pornography

into an Art.

The concept was to create

pornography as if
it came before sin.

Adam and Eve before
the fall of mankind.

They weren't
ashamed before that.

My parents are having sex
in the image.

What can I say? Do you understand,
what can I say?

Ilona Staller and Jeff Koons
married in Budapest in 1991.

Their son was born a year later,

they name him after the
Bavarian King Ludwig II.

But Ilona's second marriage
is also short-lived.

It was clear that this marriage
wouldn't last long.

It was a momentary
encounter for Jeff Koons

which he used for his work,

he profited from it.

The seperation involved an
international legal settlement

which also
involved a custody battle.

Both accused the other
of neglecting the child.

Then Jeff Koons claimed to be
ashamed of his work with Ilona.

He destroyed a lot of it and limited
the distribution of the work.

It branded my life.

It was hard.

Very hard.

Many people discriminate my
mother because of her past.

But they don't know the
battles she fought,

how much she fought
for her ideals.

I won the case
for Ilona while facing

an army of Jeff Koon's
international lawyers.

I managed to get her
acquitted from all the charges

that her ex-husband
charged her with.

Regardless of her problems,
Cicciolina traveled

to various diplomatic
missions while in office,

and surprised
her dialogue partners

time and time again.

The representative
of the porn world

became the
representative of a nation.

The constituency of an altogether
mature Italian democracy.

This drew the
public attention to something

unprecedented:

the presence of the obscene.

Her election brought a person
in parliament, a respectable

person, but someone

who didn't understand
politics, for the first time.

Something happened back then in
the fossilised Italian regime

which should have escalated
in the following decades.

Obscene also means

bad designs.

A thing that foretells
something bad.

Cicciolina set the politics
of the spectacle in motion.

It's not about a project,

it's not about ideology,
values, symbols,

it's not about
the political situation,

it's just about the person.

Celebrity and beauty
became a political value

for the first time.

After a certain point you were
allowed to say everything on TV.

The election campaign of
Silvio Berlusconi

was more related to the
requirements of a head comedian,

the head of a theatre troupe,

in which celebrity and a
nice profile,

the physicality, became the most
important elements of a candidate.

I don't want
to claim that Cicciolina

was Berlusconi's grandmother.

I just want to say that
these appearances,

this salesmanship,

and this subversive smile,

and the profanisation of
the institutions

are all elements

that also have to do
with Berlusconism.

Berlusconi is provincial.

Cicciolina wouldn't have
participated in Bunga-Bunga.

Bunga-Bunga is something
for TV starlets.

Cicciolina celebrates the orgy,

she is in a completely
different category.

She was never a bad person.

She wasn't a "bad girl."

She was a good facilitator
of a social stream

for more freedom.

What are you waiting for?

Let's dream together,

let yourself go.

It will be like a fairy tale...
like making love together

in fantasy.

It's incredible that someone
is still a star

after decades.

I met Cicciolina in 1978

on TV on Sunday evening.

She told me fairy tales

and I still thank her
for it today.

She was a fairy tale for
me as a small child.

Something strange.

Maybe I didn't
understand who she was yet.

But I thought she was beautiful.

My mother is a
completely normal woman.

I can't draw a line between
Ilona Staller and Cicciolina.

She is my life below the line.

That's how I am.

Open to the world,

open to sexuality,

open in all ways.

That's the way I am.

Subtitles: Elinor Lewy