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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:17,978 --> 00:00:22,562 In 1963 World in Action made a film about these seven year old children 2 00:00:22,762 --> 00:00:27,944 they talked about their homes, their schools and what they wanted to be 3 00:00:28,144 --> 00:00:31,876 they were filmed again when they were fourteen 4 00:00:32,076 --> 00:00:33,743 we've brought them all together to watch the films 5 00:00:33,943 --> 00:00:37,354 because this year they are twenty-one 6 00:00:43,125 --> 00:00:44,598 what are they doing now? 7 00:00:44,798 --> 00:00:46,053 How have they changed? 8 00:00:46,253 --> 00:00:49,402 What sort of people are they? 9 00:00:52,096 --> 00:00:53,358 Stop it at once! 10 00:00:53,433 --> 00:00:55,683 Give me a child until he is seven 11 00:00:55,883 --> 00:00:58,992 and I will give you the man 12 00:00:59,192 --> 00:01:02,906 When I leave the school I'm going to.. 13 00:01:03,106 --> 00:01:04,932 Colet Court 14 00:01:07,019 --> 00:01:09,616 and then I will be going to Rossminster Boarding School 15 00:01:09,816 --> 00:01:11,316 if I pass the exam 16 00:01:12,588 --> 00:01:15,575 and then we think I'm going to 17 00:01:15,775 --> 00:01:19,522 Cambridge and Trinity Hall 18 00:01:19,789 --> 00:01:21,650 Well... 19 00:01:21,651 --> 00:01:25,550 before I'm old and that, enough to get a job 20 00:01:25,750 --> 00:01:30,081 I'll just walk around and see what I can find 21 00:01:30,281 --> 00:01:33,547 I want to be a jockey when I grow up yeah 22 00:01:33,747 --> 00:01:35,422 When I leave school 23 00:01:35,423 --> 00:01:39,372 I'm going to The Dragon School, I might 24 00:01:39,572 --> 00:01:43,444 and after I might go to Charterhouse Marlborough 25 00:01:43,644 --> 00:01:45,527 What about university Charlie? 26 00:01:45,727 --> 00:01:47,873 I might go to Oxford 27 00:01:48,135 --> 00:01:50,402 What does university mean? 28 00:01:50,602 --> 00:01:52,314 Well... 29 00:01:52,315 --> 00:01:55,075 Well I don't think I need to go to university 30 00:01:55,275 --> 00:01:56,984 'cause I'm not going to be a teacher 31 00:01:57,184 --> 00:01:59,029 I don't think you have to go to university 32 00:01:59,229 --> 00:02:00,722 if you want to be an astronaut 33 00:02:00,922 --> 00:02:02,581 When I leave this school 34 00:02:02,781 --> 00:02:06,721 I'm down for Heathfield and Fairfield Manor 35 00:02:06,921 --> 00:02:11,211 and then maybe I may want to go to university 36 00:02:11,411 --> 00:02:12,798 but I don't know which one yet 37 00:02:12,998 --> 00:02:16,625 I will buy myself a nice new made house, you know 38 00:02:16,825 --> 00:02:19,787 One that's all nice and comfy 39 00:02:19,987 --> 00:02:22,337 I'm going to work in Woolworths 40 00:02:22,537 --> 00:02:25,242 Well, going to Africa 41 00:02:25,442 --> 00:02:29,719 and try and teach people who are not civilised 42 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,671 to be, more or less good 43 00:02:32,871 --> 00:02:35,524 When I grow up I'd like to 44 00:02:35,724 --> 00:02:39,080 find out all about the moon and all that 45 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,732 It's just that the limitations of such things as: 46 00:02:42,932 --> 00:02:46,374 What the audience require and the time 47 00:02:46,574 --> 00:02:48,668 don't allow it to be a real study 48 00:02:48,868 --> 00:02:51,033 I mean if we accept this 49 00:02:51,233 --> 00:02:53,144 then it... 50 00:02:53,145 --> 00:02:55,230 Okay I think it's probably good entertainment 51 00:02:55,430 --> 00:02:57,285 I don't think we've changed that much 52 00:02:57,485 --> 00:02:59,846 I think we talk, no I don't mean looks 53 00:03:00,046 --> 00:03:02,735 I mean the way we talk I don't think we've changed that much 54 00:03:02,935 --> 00:03:04,969 Well you never lose an Eastend accent do you 55 00:03:05,169 --> 00:03:07,760 I tell you what, as it goes you've definitely changed 56 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:08,961 - You think so yeah? - In facial 57 00:03:09,161 --> 00:03:10,986 You haven't changed a bit have you? 58 00:03:11,186 --> 00:03:12,574 Don't you think so? I thought I'd got bigger 59 00:03:12,774 --> 00:03:14,424 You might be about an inch bigger yeah 60 00:03:14,624 --> 00:03:16,286 - An inch? - I know it's unbelievable 61 00:03:16,486 --> 00:03:19,965 That's something I did notice, the way our teeth have changed 62 00:03:20,165 --> 00:03:21,166 Teeth? 63 00:03:21,167 --> 00:03:22,167 Yes 64 00:03:22,168 --> 00:03:24,383 - Mine were out like that and I had them shoved back - Well I noticed the ears actually 65 00:03:24,583 --> 00:03:28,606 Have you not noticed that a lot of people... your ears have been made real fun about them 66 00:03:28,806 --> 00:03:33,107 They've got they're conclusions settled already 67 00:03:33,344 --> 00:03:34,204 They must 68 00:03:34,205 --> 00:03:38,087 met here today and we've seen the films 69 00:03:38,287 --> 00:03:41,056 and we feel as if we know everybody who is in the films now 70 00:03:41,256 --> 00:03:43,602 has broken any class barriers that could previously existed 71 00:03:43,802 --> 00:03:46,420 and therefore the film itself has 72 00:03:46,620 --> 00:03:47,983 possibly defeated its own object 73 00:03:48,183 --> 00:03:50,044 - They do lead me on a bit don't they - That's what I mean 74 00:03:50,244 --> 00:03:52,503 and they hype the program up too much 75 00:03:52,703 --> 00:03:53,704 Yeah 76 00:03:53,705 --> 00:03:57,073 and make that you're good and I'm bad 77 00:03:57,273 --> 00:03:58,960 - Or - Well Vice-versa I think 78 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,998 - No don't be silly - No I really do, especially the "7" one 79 00:04:02,198 --> 00:04:04,697 People tend to read significance into it that I don't think exists 80 00:04:04,897 --> 00:04:07,724 One of my friends for instance, had me pointed out to him as... 81 00:04:07,924 --> 00:04:09,657 being destined to run the farm 82 00:04:09,857 --> 00:04:14,680 and being educationally pretty inept, this is obvious from the film 83 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,036 At seven Nicholas was at a one room village school in the Yorkshire Dales 84 00:04:19,236 --> 00:04:22,483 Do you have a girlfriend? 85 00:04:23,710 --> 00:04:26,566 I don't want to answer that 86 00:04:26,766 --> 00:04:32,033 I don't want answer those kind of questions 87 00:04:32,233 --> 00:04:36,083 I thought that one would come up because when I was 88 00:04:36,283 --> 00:04:38,196 When I was doing the other one somebody said 89 00:04:38,396 --> 00:04:41,407 "what do you think about girls?" and I said "I don't answer questions like that" 90 00:04:41,607 --> 00:04:43,086 is that the reason you're asking it? 91 00:04:43,286 --> 00:04:44,994 - Yeah - thought so 92 00:04:48,737 --> 00:04:50,275 The best answer would be 93 00:04:50,475 --> 00:04:53,354 to say that I don't answer questions like that but I mean.. 94 00:04:53,554 --> 00:04:56,012 You know it was what I said when I was seven 95 00:04:56,212 --> 00:05:00,786 and it's still the most sensible but I mean, what about them? 96 00:05:01,070 --> 00:05:02,903 Well you seemed at fourteen 97 00:05:03,103 --> 00:05:06,501 very shy of the whole 98 00:05:06,701 --> 00:05:09,322 sexual life, has that changed? 99 00:05:09,522 --> 00:05:11,701 I've tried to make a change yes 100 00:05:11,901 --> 00:05:16,300 a very definite conscious effort not to be shy 101 00:05:16,500 --> 00:05:18,784 to be more outgoing 102 00:05:18,785 --> 00:05:24,818 and this is actually something I can put a point to in my own past 103 00:05:25,018 --> 00:05:28,096 and think yes I did make my mind up here, here and here 104 00:05:28,296 --> 00:05:31,101 that I was going to try and change this, this and this 105 00:05:31,301 --> 00:05:33,694 "this" being basically my confidence 106 00:05:33,894 --> 00:05:34,742 and my 107 00:05:34,743 --> 00:05:36,816 my sort of approach to 108 00:05:37,016 --> 00:05:38,721 well this is to people in general 109 00:05:38,921 --> 00:05:41,472 When I grow up I'd like to 110 00:05:41,672 --> 00:05:44,713 find out all about the moon and all that 111 00:05:44,913 --> 00:05:45,902 I mean 112 00:05:45,903 --> 00:05:46,703 I'm not 113 00:05:46,704 --> 00:05:51,943 when I said that I was interested in physics and chemistry well I'm not going to do that here 114 00:05:52,143 --> 00:05:53,979 You might be able to get... somebody to ex... 115 00:05:54,179 --> 00:05:56,725 will you explain this to me again 116 00:05:56,925 --> 00:06:00,442 Nicholas is now in his 2nd year at Oxford University 117 00:06:00,642 --> 00:06:03,755 Well I'm trying to be a physicist 118 00:06:03,955 --> 00:06:06,385 to fill in the detail of 119 00:06:06,585 --> 00:06:08,847 whenever you meet somebody at university that 120 00:06:09,047 --> 00:06:10,570 the standard question is, 121 00:06:10,770 --> 00:06:12,326 where are you and what are you doing? 122 00:06:12,526 --> 00:06:15,446 And my answer is I'm at Merton College and I'm doing Physics 123 00:06:15,646 --> 00:06:17,937 so it doesn't move up and down and just rotates 124 00:06:18,137 --> 00:06:19,788 - OK - Then you put it in 125 00:06:19,988 --> 00:06:20,827 We'll give it a whirl 126 00:06:21,027 --> 00:06:23,464 So what career are you going to pursue? 127 00:06:23,664 --> 00:06:28,244 It depends whether I'll be good enough to do what I want to really do 128 00:06:28,444 --> 00:06:34,203 I would like if I can to do research 129 00:06:34,403 --> 00:06:37,206 Are there any disadvantages in coming from a small place like this 130 00:06:37,406 --> 00:06:39,250 and preparing yourself for Oxford? 131 00:06:39,450 --> 00:06:42,977 Well it's a rather different background 132 00:06:43,177 --> 00:06:48,419 to go any where, Oxford perhaps especially 133 00:06:48,619 --> 00:06:53,311 it is a rather more firm foundation I would've thought 134 00:06:53,511 --> 00:06:55,119 as to your 135 00:06:55,804 --> 00:06:58,102 character? I don't? Perhaps character 136 00:06:58,302 --> 00:07:00,990 than being brought up in the city 137 00:07:01,190 --> 00:07:03,503 It's a fixed reference point in a sense 138 00:07:03,703 --> 00:07:07,782 that sort of earthy life and death cycle that you get 139 00:07:07,982 --> 00:07:09,650 living on a farm 140 00:07:09,651 --> 00:07:13,876 so when something dies it rots and feeds back into the earth 141 00:07:14,076 --> 00:07:16,615 Sometimes it's helpful 142 00:07:16,815 --> 00:07:23,052 in a city where things that some people are very concerned about seem quite irrelevant 143 00:07:23,252 --> 00:07:26,239 Is there a new strength of your father as a farmer 144 00:07:26,439 --> 00:07:28,691 that you think he's trying to teach you 145 00:07:28,891 --> 00:07:33,475 Well you get a certain sort of calmness in some situations 146 00:07:33,675 --> 00:07:37,568 take things as they come you become resigned to things 147 00:07:37,768 --> 00:07:41,556 if the dog's chasing animals in the wrong direction then you just have to put up with it 148 00:07:41,756 --> 00:07:46,121 if it won't do as it's told you become resigned to these things 149 00:07:46,321 --> 00:07:51,751 I suppose yes that's one possibility 150 00:07:52,254 --> 00:07:53,254 come on 151 00:07:59,977 --> 00:08:01,094 come on lad 152 00:08:01,095 --> 00:08:03,192 I suppose of all the seven year olds 153 00:08:03,392 --> 00:08:06,307 the original ones, you are the big success 154 00:08:06,507 --> 00:08:08,575 I am not inclined to accept that 155 00:08:08,775 --> 00:08:10,717 Why? You wouldn't agree with that? 156 00:08:10,917 --> 00:08:12,564 Well what have I achieved? 157 00:08:12,764 --> 00:08:18,527 I'm not really prepared to accept that I've done anything very special yet 158 00:08:18,727 --> 00:08:21,249 I'd like to think that...I mean I'm hoping that I might do at some stage 159 00:08:21,449 --> 00:08:26,675 but I don't really think I've done anything that you can call a great success 160 00:08:27,610 --> 00:08:31,476 It would seem really ridiculous to any of my friends who watch this if I said 161 00:08:31,676 --> 00:08:34,445 "Christ aren't I a great success, look at me" 162 00:08:34,645 --> 00:08:37,944 Well what? You know, what success? 163 00:08:38,144 --> 00:08:40,326 I can't think of it in those terms 164 00:08:40,526 --> 00:08:43,943 I haven't done anything that can be called success 165 00:08:44,143 --> 00:08:47,925 nothing out of the ordinary really 166 00:08:55,932 --> 00:08:57,912 Singing Waltzing Matilda in Latin 167 00:08:58,112 --> 00:09:00,690 at an exclusive pre-preparatory school in London 168 00:09:00,890 --> 00:09:02,267 Charles 169 00:09:03,617 --> 00:09:04,757 Andrew 170 00:09:04,758 --> 00:09:06,051 and John 171 00:09:06,052 --> 00:09:08,976 I think it's not a bad idea to pay for schools 172 00:09:09,176 --> 00:09:10,920 because if we didn't 173 00:09:10,921 --> 00:09:13,948 schools would be so nasty and crowded 174 00:09:14,148 --> 00:09:15,982 Yes, so do I think so 175 00:09:16,182 --> 00:09:21,153 The poor people would come rushing in and the man in charge of the school would... 176 00:09:21,353 --> 00:09:24,644 Would you think there's any truth in the ideas behind the program that 177 00:09:24,844 --> 00:09:28,954 certain people have more options than others and this is undesirable? 178 00:09:29,154 --> 00:09:34,406 It's certainly true that more people know they have more options or imagine they have 179 00:09:34,606 --> 00:09:38,004 I think in practical terms 180 00:09:38,204 --> 00:09:43,836 the difference in numerical number of options isn't that great 181 00:09:44,036 --> 00:09:48,304 the fact is that the three of us know that there's a whole range of things we can do 182 00:09:48,504 --> 00:09:52,767 But the mere knowledge creates an option in itself, so I think we do have more options 183 00:09:52,967 --> 00:09:56,889 and it is undesirable but it's very difficult to correct 184 00:09:57,089 --> 00:09:59,656 I don't think it is undesirable at all 185 00:09:59,856 --> 00:10:02,225 I think what's undesirable is people who have had options 186 00:10:02,425 --> 00:10:05,168 don't make advantage of them, take best advantage of them 187 00:10:05,368 --> 00:10:07,657 but I can't see there's anything wrong 188 00:10:07,857 --> 00:10:12,825 as long as people don't abuse the opportunities and privileges they've had 189 00:10:13,025 --> 00:10:18,876 If people behave responsibly I think it's very good 190 00:10:19,076 --> 00:10:21,595 they're the sort of stability and structure in society 191 00:10:21,795 --> 00:10:23,383 We've been taught to expect more 192 00:10:23,583 --> 00:10:26,470 it's not that because we've been to private schools 193 00:10:26,670 --> 00:10:29,004 we're not better qualified necessarily 194 00:10:29,204 --> 00:10:30,875 - No - Yes I agree with that 195 00:10:31,075 --> 00:10:32,765 It's a matter of expectations 196 00:10:32,965 --> 00:10:34,996 Yes I must say, all this talk about opportunities 197 00:10:35,196 --> 00:10:38,843 something I did slightly object to in the program was 198 00:10:39,043 --> 00:10:40,769 we were shown at the age of seven 199 00:10:40,969 --> 00:10:46,660 outlining the academic career that most of us did in fact pursue 200 00:10:46,860 --> 00:10:49,716 each sentence ended up "John is at Westminster" 201 00:10:49,916 --> 00:10:51,503 Andrew is at Charterhouse and everything 202 00:10:51,703 --> 00:10:55,646 implied that we just sailed through, merely manifesting an intention at the age of seven 203 00:10:55,846 --> 00:10:59,104 we didn't show the sleepless nights, the pouring over our books 204 00:10:59,304 --> 00:11:00,693 sort of, you know 205 00:11:00,694 --> 00:11:04,357 all the sweat and toil that got us through to university 206 00:11:04,557 --> 00:11:07,589 it was presented as if it was just part of some 207 00:11:07,789 --> 00:11:10,128 indestructible birth right that we went to all these places 208 00:11:10,328 --> 00:11:14,605 and I thought that was unfair, they didn't show us having to do beastly jobs in the holidays 209 00:11:14,805 --> 00:11:18,196 y'know, to make ends meet and things 210 00:11:18,396 --> 00:11:22,351 it didn't give a very real sort of...impression 211 00:11:22,551 --> 00:11:25,055 The three girls are earning 212 00:11:25,255 --> 00:11:30,741 income wise they're far better off than I imagine all three of us are, certainly I am 213 00:11:30,941 --> 00:11:33,681 and background wise 214 00:11:33,682 --> 00:11:37,840 in terms of qualifications or the means of achieving their ends 215 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,648 they probably have just as many options as we do 216 00:11:40,848 --> 00:11:42,098 Jaqueline 217 00:11:42,099 --> 00:11:44,401 how do you think about coloured people? 218 00:11:44,601 --> 00:11:48,715 Well they're nice, they're just the same as us really 219 00:11:48,915 --> 00:11:51,114 but, one thing 220 00:11:51,115 --> 00:11:54,728 it's only 'cause their skin's brown and we're white 221 00:11:54,928 --> 00:11:58,528 sort of pinkish we are 222 00:11:58,728 --> 00:12:01,054 Jackie, Lynn and Susan 223 00:12:01,254 --> 00:12:03,930 they went to primary school together in the Eastend of London 224 00:12:04,130 --> 00:12:06,118 Lynn chose to go on to a grammar school 225 00:12:06,318 --> 00:12:08,788 and Jackie and Susan to a comprehensive 226 00:12:08,988 --> 00:12:12,307 There is a danger that you would get married at early twenties and 227 00:12:12,507 --> 00:12:16,294 have children quickly and then be stuck at home 228 00:12:16,494 --> 00:12:18,127 have you any thoughts on that? 229 00:12:18,327 --> 00:12:21,314 - I don't really think about it much - No 230 00:12:21,514 --> 00:12:24,507 I don't think I'd eh... 231 00:12:24,707 --> 00:12:26,660 get married to early 232 00:12:26,661 --> 00:12:28,494 I'd like to have a full life first and 233 00:12:28,694 --> 00:12:30,861 - I'd like to enjoy myself before I... - Meet people and...yeah 234 00:12:31,061 --> 00:12:33,675 Before you can commit yourself to a family 235 00:12:33,875 --> 00:12:38,209 What would you do if you had lots of money? about two pounds 236 00:12:38,409 --> 00:12:42,063 I would buy myself a nice new made house you know 237 00:12:42,263 --> 00:12:45,319 one that's all nice and comfy 238 00:12:45,519 --> 00:12:49,829 Jackie was married last year and now lives on a new estate in Essex 239 00:12:50,029 --> 00:12:53,145 - It's a nice estate - Yeah - Yeah not bad at all 240 00:12:53,345 --> 00:12:55,649 What are they like the neighbours? Have you seen a lot of them or what? 241 00:12:55,849 --> 00:12:59,482 Well you know, to say hello to more than anything, I mean 242 00:12:59,682 --> 00:13:02,239 we borrow things off of her, which is just as well 243 00:13:02,439 --> 00:13:06,268 - That's what neighbours are for isn't it? - Yeah right! 244 00:13:06,468 --> 00:13:09,645 Here, It's a similar colour scheme down here moving up stairs isn't it? 245 00:13:09,845 --> 00:13:13,544 Yeah but this was more by luck than judgement really 246 00:13:13,744 --> 00:13:16,114 - Was it like this when you came? - No it was all white 247 00:13:16,314 --> 00:13:18,851 but you can imagine the state it was in 248 00:13:19,051 --> 00:13:24,060 friends had some paint handy so Dad and Mick just used the rollers and in a day it was done 249 00:13:24,260 --> 00:13:25,581 two coats, wallop! That was it 250 00:13:25,781 --> 00:13:27,179 Susan is still single 251 00:13:27,379 --> 00:13:30,116 I work for a travel company 252 00:13:30,316 --> 00:13:34,987 they don't deal with the public, they deal with groups and company groups 253 00:13:35,187 --> 00:13:39,936 it's sort of incentive, holidays abroad and conferences, that sort of thing 254 00:13:40,136 --> 00:13:44,329 which I like because I like foreign places 255 00:13:44,529 --> 00:13:46,070 and I have to do eh... 256 00:13:46,270 --> 00:13:47,852 I do quite a bit of typing 257 00:13:48,052 --> 00:13:50,686 but a lot of my work is involved in making bookings 258 00:13:50,886 --> 00:13:53,459 and dealing with hotels abroad 259 00:13:53,659 --> 00:13:57,041 I left school and started work... 260 00:13:57,241 --> 00:14:00,701 for an Australian bank and I'm still there 261 00:14:00,901 --> 00:14:04,485 and I've been there what? Three and a half years now 262 00:14:04,685 --> 00:14:08,922 I've done various jobs within the bank 263 00:14:09,537 --> 00:14:13,026 I started off as a telephonist-typist 264 00:14:13,226 --> 00:14:18,060 which was very interesting actually, you'd be surprised the sort of calls you get 265 00:14:19,433 --> 00:14:22,794 Then I went on to work the NCR machine 266 00:14:22,994 --> 00:14:26,137 which is the actual machine that processes the accounts 267 00:14:26,337 --> 00:14:30,540 and counter work dealing with clients money and things like that 268 00:14:30,740 --> 00:14:32,807 I'm going to work in Woolworths 269 00:14:33,007 --> 00:14:38,993 Well I'm a school mobile librarian and assistant to the young peoples office 270 00:14:39,193 --> 00:14:41,109 Which is where we are now 271 00:14:41,309 --> 00:14:47,108 and I've been here since August last year 272 00:14:48,278 --> 00:14:51,293 Lynn is now married but still lives and works in the Eastend 273 00:14:51,493 --> 00:14:54,883 I visit schools with the van 274 00:14:55,083 --> 00:14:59,761 where they've not got position to get into a local library for class visits 275 00:14:59,961 --> 00:15:01,603 I love working with children 276 00:15:01,803 --> 00:15:04,633 do you remember on the last one I wanted to teach? 277 00:15:04,833 --> 00:15:06,722 Well I didn't get to that 278 00:15:06,922 --> 00:15:10,306 and seeing how it is today I'm glad I didn't 279 00:15:10,506 --> 00:15:13,724 the job situation for all teachers as it is 280 00:15:13,924 --> 00:15:17,411 and I think it takes a lot more patience than I've actually got 281 00:15:17,611 --> 00:15:19,477 I'm much more at home here 282 00:15:19,677 --> 00:15:21,355 - Have I stamped yours? - Yes 283 00:15:21,555 --> 00:15:23,177 I've not stamped yours 284 00:15:23,377 --> 00:15:25,005 Sleeping Beauty 285 00:15:26,703 --> 00:15:28,507 I've lost the stamp! 286 00:15:31,310 --> 00:15:33,407 Do you sleep like a beauty? 287 00:15:33,607 --> 00:15:34,826 What do you say? 288 00:15:34,839 --> 00:15:36,321 Thank you 289 00:15:36,507 --> 00:15:41,605 I definitely make a point in reading all my new books I get in 290 00:15:41,805 --> 00:15:44,197 It's quite funny, I take loads of books home 291 00:15:44,397 --> 00:15:47,607 and people come and say "who are these kids books on the table?" 292 00:15:47,807 --> 00:15:50,375 - "They're mine" - "Oh" 293 00:15:50,575 --> 00:15:52,202 Then they sort of shut up 294 00:15:52,402 --> 00:15:57,759 At the moment a career's probably about the furthest thing from my mind 295 00:15:57,959 --> 00:16:01,703 and I don't really know what I'm aiming for except to get the house together 296 00:16:01,903 --> 00:16:07,932 and that can take years, as fast as you replace one thing something else needs replacing, so... 297 00:16:08,132 --> 00:16:09,951 it could just go on like that, I don't know 298 00:16:10,151 --> 00:16:13,065 Well admitting that you're not a career girl 299 00:16:13,265 --> 00:16:15,606 does it mean that you're therefore looking for a family? 300 00:16:15,806 --> 00:16:17,930 Oh I don't know, I suppose I am 301 00:16:18,130 --> 00:16:20,468 But erm.. 302 00:16:20,469 --> 00:16:22,623 Every thing's not that cut and dried 303 00:16:22,823 --> 00:16:25,243 it's not either career or family or... 304 00:16:25,443 --> 00:16:28,916 but is what's in the middle, am I just going to carry on as I am now? for? 305 00:16:29,116 --> 00:16:31,683 And end up ...on the shelf? 306 00:16:31,883 --> 00:16:34,786 Or am I just going to get married? could be any day, but 307 00:16:34,986 --> 00:16:37,321 I suppose Lynn is a career girl in a way isn't she? 308 00:16:37,521 --> 00:16:41,946 Yeah she's more wrapped up in her job than I think we are 309 00:16:42,146 --> 00:16:47,012 and you all three were sat there at seven and she's gone that way and you've gone this way 310 00:16:47,212 --> 00:16:49,367 is there? can you? 311 00:16:49,368 --> 00:16:51,305 Think of any reasons why that should be? 312 00:16:51,505 --> 00:16:57,079 I think just basic personality, Lynn's always been that little bit different from us 313 00:16:57,279 --> 00:17:00,642 She's always been more serious as far as studies are concerned 314 00:17:00,842 --> 00:17:04,034 I didn't feel like going to a grammar school, I just er... 315 00:17:04,234 --> 00:17:07,543 you know, comprehensive school it just seemed more friendly 316 00:17:07,743 --> 00:17:11,207 At that time that is, but now a little bit different 317 00:17:11,407 --> 00:17:15,067 - Grammar school's fantastic - If you say so! 318 00:17:15,267 --> 00:17:16,965 When I leave this school 319 00:17:17,165 --> 00:17:21,326 I'm down for Heathfield and Fairfield Manor 320 00:17:21,526 --> 00:17:28,757 and then maybe I may want to go to university but I don't know which one yet 321 00:17:32,554 --> 00:17:34,040 This is Susie 322 00:17:34,041 --> 00:17:38,941 the product of a private education and wealthy parents 323 00:17:44,346 --> 00:17:48,523 What do you think about making this program? 324 00:17:50,758 --> 00:17:54,480 I just think it's ridiculous, I don't see any point in doing it 325 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,057 Why not? 326 00:17:56,927 --> 00:18:00,220 What's the point of people going into peoples lives and saying: 327 00:18:00,420 --> 00:18:03,261 "Why do you like this and why don't you?" I don't see any point in it 328 00:18:03,461 --> 00:18:07,246 Well I didn't want to do it when I was fourteen 329 00:18:07,446 --> 00:18:10,634 I know I was very difficult because I was very anti doing it 330 00:18:10,834 --> 00:18:15,517 because I was pressurised into doing it by my parents 331 00:18:16,202 --> 00:18:18,043 and I hated it 332 00:18:18,044 --> 00:18:20,986 and I vowed I'd never do it now 333 00:18:21,186 --> 00:18:22,933 but here I am 334 00:18:23,374 --> 00:18:25,567 I'd like to do... 335 00:18:25,568 --> 00:18:28,089 short hand typing or something like that 336 00:18:28,289 --> 00:18:32,377 I left school when I was sixteen, went to Paris 337 00:18:33,369 --> 00:18:36,402 went to secretarial college and got a job 338 00:18:36,602 --> 00:18:40,819 What made you decide to leave school and go to Paris? 339 00:18:41,019 --> 00:18:46,082 I just wasn't interested in school and just wanted to get away 340 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,858 and why did you choose Paris? 341 00:18:50,058 --> 00:18:53,358 I don't know, it was my parents really 342 00:18:53,558 --> 00:19:00,584 Did you sort of feel the need to get away? and why? 343 00:19:00,784 --> 00:19:03,028 Well I'd lived in London or Scotland 344 00:19:03,228 --> 00:19:06,541 and I knew people who were going out to Paris and so I thought I'd go as well 345 00:19:06,741 --> 00:19:09,024 Comparing yourselves to Susie 346 00:19:09,224 --> 00:19:11,212 who stands at the other end of the social scale 347 00:19:11,412 --> 00:19:15,001 do you think you've had the same opportunities as her? 348 00:19:15,201 --> 00:19:17,989 I've had the opportunities in life that I've wanted 349 00:19:18,189 --> 00:19:22,196 I'd say I've had more opportunities than Susie 350 00:19:22,396 --> 00:19:24,687 I'd say I've had more opportunities than her 351 00:19:24,887 --> 00:19:27,948 in a different aspect to what she's had them 352 00:19:28,148 --> 00:19:33,817 But eh, my life, I've been able to do more or less what I wanted to do 353 00:19:34,017 --> 00:19:37,299 I'm not going to say it on film, what I feel for her 354 00:19:37,499 --> 00:19:43,181 But I think she's been so conditioned into what she should do and what she shouldn't do 355 00:19:43,381 --> 00:19:44,963 Yeah but I mean 356 00:19:44,964 --> 00:19:48,601 The whole thing is you're saying "do we envy anything Susie's had?" 357 00:19:48,801 --> 00:19:49,501 No 358 00:19:49,502 --> 00:19:50,860 I mean I don't know 359 00:19:50,861 --> 00:19:54,447 I don't know what Susie's had, what's Susie had that I haven't had? 360 00:19:54,647 --> 00:19:57,837 I mean, until I know that I can't honestly say whether I envy her 361 00:19:58,037 --> 00:20:01,121 - She's had money and she's travelled - I've got money! 362 00:20:01,321 --> 00:20:03,500 Maybe not enough but I've got it! 363 00:20:03,700 --> 00:20:07,946 I have been to Honolulu with my father about two years ago 364 00:20:08,146 --> 00:20:11,534 for a couple of months 365 00:20:11,799 --> 00:20:14,677 which I didn't really enjoy 366 00:20:14,877 --> 00:20:20,001 there's nothing much out there, there's no meet people my own age out there 367 00:20:20,201 --> 00:20:24,293 and I hated it and I was glad to come home 368 00:20:25,406 --> 00:20:29,264 apart from that I've been to France on holidays 369 00:20:29,464 --> 00:20:33,680 I'm going to Australia in the summer 370 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,588 for about two months 371 00:20:35,589 --> 00:20:40,777 otherwise I don't know where I'm going to go and I'd like to go and travel more 372 00:20:40,977 --> 00:20:42,325 Why? 373 00:20:42,581 --> 00:20:45,297 Well I don't think there's any point in sitting in your own country 374 00:20:45,497 --> 00:20:50,382 I'd like to see how people live on the other side of the world 375 00:20:50,582 --> 00:20:54,249 Tell me about the Australian trip 376 00:20:54,449 --> 00:20:58,446 Well I'm going in July for about two months with my cousin 377 00:20:58,646 --> 00:21:01,224 her elder sister's married out there 378 00:21:01,424 --> 00:21:04,971 and we're just going out to... 379 00:21:05,171 --> 00:21:07,545 see what it's like 380 00:21:07,563 --> 00:21:12,467 we're going to not work out there, we're only going for two months 381 00:21:13,413 --> 00:21:16,274 We just feel if we don't go now we never will 382 00:21:16,474 --> 00:21:20,354 We've got the opportunity and the time to go now so we're going 383 00:21:20,554 --> 00:21:23,081 How are you going to pay for it? 384 00:21:23,281 --> 00:21:25,106 Save up and go 385 00:21:26,002 --> 00:21:29,157 Do you get depressed by money problems? 386 00:21:29,357 --> 00:21:32,044 No, why? Why should you? 387 00:21:32,244 --> 00:21:34,400 - If you can manage on what you've got - I refuse to get depressed over money 388 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,549 - It's so easy to but why should you? - I do, I do 389 00:21:37,749 --> 00:21:39,131 Why worry about it? 390 00:21:39,132 --> 00:21:41,514 When I reach the 18th day of the month and my mortgage is due on the 20th 391 00:21:41,714 --> 00:21:45,977 and there's nowhere near enough money in there, I get depressed about it obviously 392 00:21:46,177 --> 00:21:48,299 Suddenly thinking, oh my god what's going to happen, you know 393 00:21:48,499 --> 00:21:51,661 But it gets there, don't ask me how but you get it 394 00:21:51,861 --> 00:21:54,073 Do you think you've settled down to young? 395 00:21:54,273 --> 00:21:54,866 No 396 00:21:54,867 --> 00:21:58,879 I've married and we do things together, or... 397 00:21:59,079 --> 00:22:02,658 I go out on my own sometimes with friends from work 398 00:22:02,858 --> 00:22:07,829 he does the same, what do you mean by settled down? 399 00:22:08,029 --> 00:22:11,574 If you think that getting married as far as we're concerned is a case of 400 00:22:11,774 --> 00:22:15,514 going to work, come home, cook tea for hubby, going to bed, getting up, going to work 401 00:22:15,714 --> 00:22:17,338 you're totally mistaken 402 00:22:17,538 --> 00:22:20,286 Did you meet enough men before you decided who to marry? 403 00:22:20,486 --> 00:22:22,992 I've been married a year and... 404 00:22:23,192 --> 00:22:24,601 a couple of months 405 00:22:25,596 --> 00:22:29,712 you do think "christ, what have I done?" 406 00:22:29,986 --> 00:22:33,614 - See I've still got my ideals - and I'm being honest about it! 407 00:22:33,814 --> 00:22:39,488 And my husband thinks the same, at times you think "christ, what have I done?" 408 00:22:39,688 --> 00:22:40,892 - But then if... - But marriage... 409 00:22:41,092 --> 00:22:42,189 Marriage means a different thing to me 410 00:22:42,389 --> 00:22:45,838 I've still got my ideals about marriage, I don't know what it's all about, obviously 411 00:22:46,038 --> 00:22:47,934 So I've still got pictures of 412 00:22:48,134 --> 00:22:50,303 - Cosy evenings indoors...yeah - With roses! 413 00:22:50,503 --> 00:22:54,108 She'd have cosy evenings indoors with the central heating! 414 00:22:54,308 --> 00:22:55,571 Or lack of it! 415 00:22:55,572 --> 00:22:57,966 - Yeah, I've got a lot to learn about... getting married 416 00:22:58,166 --> 00:23:03,747 I mean, your parents split up soon after you were fourteen 417 00:23:03,947 --> 00:23:08,032 What sort of influence, effect did that have on you? 418 00:23:08,415 --> 00:23:12,421 Well I was the only child going through their parents splitting up aged 14 419 00:23:12,621 --> 00:23:17,627 at a very vulnerable age and it does touch you up, but... 420 00:23:17,827 --> 00:23:20,580 You know, you get over it 421 00:23:20,780 --> 00:23:23,063 There was no point in them staying together for me 422 00:23:23,263 --> 00:23:25,460 if it was worse, I mean the rows and... 423 00:23:25,660 --> 00:23:27,730 and it's worse 424 00:23:27,731 --> 00:23:30,516 so if two people can't live together there's no point in making yourself 425 00:23:30,716 --> 00:23:34,443 even for the sake of children 426 00:23:34,953 --> 00:23:40,615 What is your attitude towards marriage? for yourself? 427 00:23:43,257 --> 00:23:48,682 Well I don't know, I haven't given it a lot of thought as I'm very cynical about it 428 00:23:50,629 --> 00:23:53,501 But then you get a certain amount of faith restored in it 429 00:23:53,701 --> 00:23:57,842 I mean I've got friends and their parents are happily married 430 00:23:58,042 --> 00:24:02,549 and it does put faith back into you but me myself I'm very cynical about it 431 00:24:02,749 --> 00:24:03,948 Why? 432 00:24:04,484 --> 00:24:09,120 Because I think it kills whatever love is 433 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,980 it just seems to go wrong 434 00:24:12,180 --> 00:24:15,616 What do you base that on? 435 00:24:15,816 --> 00:24:19,791 Well, people I've seen, people around me 436 00:24:19,991 --> 00:24:25,737 I mean I've got...not a lot of my friends are married 437 00:24:26,951 --> 00:24:33,381 a lot of people who are 20,30 all seem to be getting divorced and can't stay together 438 00:24:33,581 --> 00:24:37,159 and at the moment I just don't really believe in it 439 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,504 Why do you think people can't hold marriages together? 440 00:24:41,909 --> 00:24:44,261 I don't know, I really don't know 441 00:24:44,461 --> 00:24:47,850 I don't sort of sit down and think "ooh ...analyse marriage" 442 00:24:48,050 --> 00:24:52,315 It's not something I've had to think about whether I was going to get married 443 00:24:52,515 --> 00:24:58,042 and I've got no desire to at the moment, I think twenty is far too young 444 00:24:58,242 --> 00:24:59,728 What was the wedding like? 445 00:24:59,928 --> 00:25:04,300 Our wedding? A laugh! 446 00:25:07,366 --> 00:25:12,375 I wanted, white wedding, all trimmings 447 00:25:12,893 --> 00:25:16,447 My husband would've been satisfied with very little 448 00:25:16,647 --> 00:25:19,908 but being as we were going into it as a full thing 449 00:25:20,108 --> 00:25:21,752 we went into it 450 00:25:21,971 --> 00:25:24,605 I had an all white wedding, all white 451 00:25:24,805 --> 00:25:29,353 We were both in white and my bridesmaid was in white 452 00:25:29,668 --> 00:25:33,060 It's a funny day actually 453 00:25:33,260 --> 00:25:37,173 because I suppose I was up somewhere around the five o'clock mark 454 00:25:37,373 --> 00:25:39,398 and I spent all day preparing 455 00:25:39,598 --> 00:25:41,925 well all morning I should say 456 00:25:42,125 --> 00:25:44,546 and then sitting around for about three hours 457 00:25:44,746 --> 00:25:48,388 just waiting for something to happen then when it did happen I don't remember it 458 00:25:48,588 --> 00:25:49,617 So 459 00:25:49,618 --> 00:25:52,765 It was just complete confusion really 460 00:25:52,965 --> 00:25:54,859 - It was a nice day though - Oh yeah 461 00:25:55,059 --> 00:25:59,819 It was funny actually, you can imagine some of the comments 462 00:26:00,019 --> 00:26:04,647 I was pleased I was there, it seemed the right place to be 463 00:26:04,847 --> 00:26:09,124 I mean I was glad I was at her wedding, I've known her a long while 464 00:26:09,324 --> 00:26:12,921 Did anything happen? Anything funny? 465 00:26:13,121 --> 00:26:16,458 I can't forget the cake 466 00:26:16,658 --> 00:26:21,286 It was horrific really, the cake what happened to the wedding cake 467 00:26:21,486 --> 00:26:25,810 it was sitting right in between Mick and myself 468 00:26:26,010 --> 00:26:30,794 suddenly the columns just completely gave way and it just all fell into one 469 00:26:30,994 --> 00:26:34,128 - It was a nice cake though! - Yeah it wasn't bad! 470 00:26:34,328 --> 00:26:36,937 I read the Financial Times 471 00:26:37,137 --> 00:26:39,841 I read the Observer and the Times 472 00:26:40,041 --> 00:26:41,682 What do you like about it? 473 00:26:41,882 --> 00:26:43,580 Well I like... 474 00:26:43,581 --> 00:26:48,702 I usually look at the headlines then read about them 475 00:26:48,902 --> 00:26:50,094 about it 476 00:26:50,709 --> 00:26:54,418 I like my newspaper because I've got shares in it 477 00:26:54,618 --> 00:26:59,330 - and I know every day what the shares are - The stuff that misers like you like! 478 00:26:59,530 --> 00:27:03,765 But on Monday's they don't move up so I don't look at it 479 00:27:03,965 --> 00:27:08,649 That's one of the troubles with this sort of program, I don't really think that people like us 480 00:27:08,849 --> 00:27:12,007 Unless we're seven and being rather funny, have very much to say that's... 481 00:27:12,207 --> 00:27:14,558 very interesting, because I mean... 482 00:27:14,758 --> 00:27:16,381 we don't know very much 483 00:27:16,581 --> 00:27:18,568 Well we didn't know very much when we were seven 484 00:27:18,768 --> 00:27:20,086 - But we were still quite funny - We were at least funny! 485 00:27:20,286 --> 00:27:22,060 - Yes! - Yes! - In ourselves! 486 00:27:22,260 --> 00:27:24,895 I agree with John, all we can say is what we think 487 00:27:25,095 --> 00:27:26,841 and if that's of interest to people, good luck to them 488 00:27:27,041 --> 00:27:29,851 Yes and I can't believe it is 489 00:27:30,051 --> 00:27:31,594 More fool them! 490 00:27:31,596 --> 00:27:38,253 When I leave this school I'm going to College Court 491 00:27:39,666 --> 00:27:44,852 then I would be going to Westminster Boarding School if I pass the exam 492 00:27:45,052 --> 00:27:48,009 and then we think I'm going to 493 00:27:48,209 --> 00:27:50,641 Cambridge and Trinity Hall 494 00:27:50,841 --> 00:27:54,189 John is in his final year at Christchurch Oxford, reading Law 495 00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:59,273 I do believe parents have a right to educate their children as they think fit 496 00:27:59,473 --> 00:28:05,502 I think someone who works on an assembly line in a car factory, earning a huge wage 497 00:28:05,702 --> 00:28:08,981 could well afford to send their children to private school if they wanted to 498 00:28:09,181 --> 00:28:11,669 Just because.. 499 00:28:11,670 --> 00:28:15,485 Some sort of people perhaps don't put that as high on their priorities as... 500 00:28:15,685 --> 00:28:17,997 having a smart car or something 501 00:28:18,197 --> 00:28:22,431 I don't think that's any reason for abolishing public school 502 00:28:22,631 --> 00:28:26,416 I think an awful lot more people could afford to send their sons to school 503 00:28:26,616 --> 00:28:28,726 You know, to fee paying school 504 00:28:28,926 --> 00:28:32,759 But they don't choose to, and that's their choice 505 00:28:32,959 --> 00:28:35,733 I'm going to Charterhouse 506 00:28:35,933 --> 00:28:41,079 and after that, Trinity Hall Cambridge 507 00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:44,436 Andrew is in his last year at Trinity College Cambridge, reading Law 508 00:28:44,636 --> 00:28:49,639 I think if people earn their money they should have a right to spend it 509 00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:52,351 an education is very important 510 00:28:52,551 --> 00:28:58,074 and you can never be sure of leaving your children any worldly goods but 511 00:28:58,274 --> 00:29:01,457 at least you can be sure that once you've given them a good education 512 00:29:01,657 --> 00:29:04,202 that's something that no one can take away 513 00:29:04,402 --> 00:29:06,188 What about university Charlie? 514 00:29:06,388 --> 00:29:08,750 I might go to Oxford 515 00:29:09,173 --> 00:29:12,548 You're reading history at Durham University, you didn't make Oxford 516 00:29:12,748 --> 00:29:14,490 What are your feelings about that? 517 00:29:14,690 --> 00:29:16,510 I don't mind at all 518 00:29:16,921 --> 00:29:18,648 In fact 519 00:29:20,331 --> 00:29:22,285 I'd say I'm pleased I didn't 520 00:29:22,485 --> 00:29:26,709 because it was very much a sort of 521 00:29:26,909 --> 00:29:30,564 sort of set of Marlborough Prep School 522 00:29:30,764 --> 00:29:34,868 Marlborough, Oxbridge, conveyor belt 523 00:29:35,068 --> 00:29:37,529 you get shoved out at the end 524 00:29:37,729 --> 00:29:39,287 and you... 525 00:29:39,583 --> 00:29:43,374 when you go to Oxbridge and it's obviously not true in all cases but 526 00:29:43,574 --> 00:29:44,929 I think for the majority 527 00:29:45,129 --> 00:29:50,110 they mix with the same people they were at school with 528 00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:52,112 So what attracts you to Oxford? 529 00:29:52,312 --> 00:29:54,967 Well first of all it's such a beautiful place 530 00:29:55,167 --> 00:29:58,624 there's more to it than just studying away at one's books 531 00:29:58,824 --> 00:30:00,986 I think it's very difficult not to get something out of it 532 00:30:01,186 --> 00:30:02,641 there's such a sort of... 533 00:30:02,841 --> 00:30:06,161 atmosphere of culture and... 534 00:30:06,361 --> 00:30:12,918 and timelessness about the place that I think you do sort of mature an awful lot 535 00:30:14,129 --> 00:30:15,331 So what is Beagling? 536 00:30:15,332 --> 00:30:18,960 Beagling is the hunting of the hare 537 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,756 with a pack of hounds, done on foot 538 00:30:21,956 --> 00:30:24,834 I mean a lot of people seem to imagine 539 00:30:25,034 --> 00:30:29,413 a days hunting with either fox to hunt or beagles 540 00:30:29,613 --> 00:30:33,002 unadulterated butchery. I mean this just isn't true, I think 541 00:30:33,202 --> 00:30:37,568 I wish people had a more realistic idea of what it's about 542 00:30:40,966 --> 00:30:43,796 The hounds are over there I think 543 00:30:43,996 --> 00:30:48,373 I saw them last streaming along that hedge there 544 00:30:53,734 --> 00:30:57,172 - Frustrating isn't it? - Yes 545 00:31:00,467 --> 00:31:03,039 I'm reasonably old fashioned about some things but I mean 546 00:31:03,239 --> 00:31:06,833 I mean people who go on a lot about the permissive society are missing the point 547 00:31:07,033 --> 00:31:10,325 if they think the only thing that's wrong is sex 548 00:31:10,525 --> 00:31:18,107 I think you know, decreasing respect for the family as a unit 549 00:31:18,307 --> 00:31:22,188 increasing dishonesty, both in business... 550 00:31:22,388 --> 00:31:27,154 there used to be much more much stronger developed ideas of commercial integrity 551 00:31:27,354 --> 00:31:33,632 than seem to be going around nowadays, nowadays people seem to be out for themselves 552 00:31:35,161 --> 00:31:39,870 I really do think I suppose there is an invasion by the American way of life 553 00:31:40,070 --> 00:31:44,618 which I think is a very sad thing 554 00:31:44,818 --> 00:31:47,724 Is that unstoppable? That trend do you think? 555 00:31:47,924 --> 00:31:51,905 I think it really is unfortunately, yes 556 00:31:52,524 --> 00:31:56,258 So where does that leave your values? 557 00:31:56,458 --> 00:31:58,827 Well it leaves them with me 558 00:31:59,027 --> 00:32:05,426 and my future children whom I shall implicate them in 559 00:32:05,626 --> 00:32:09,271 But do you not find yourself isolated? 560 00:32:09,471 --> 00:32:10,671 That really doesn't matter 561 00:32:10,871 --> 00:32:14,451 If I believe my principals are right 562 00:32:14,651 --> 00:32:17,028 and I'm doing the right thing to bring my children up by them 563 00:32:17,228 --> 00:32:21,022 it won't matter to me whether I'm living in the middle-ages mentally 564 00:32:21,222 --> 00:32:24,663 I shall do what's right 565 00:32:24,863 --> 00:32:28,281 Well when I was very small my father always used to go ski-ing 566 00:32:28,481 --> 00:32:30,476 and he took me with him 567 00:32:30,676 --> 00:32:33,067 and we've been ever since really 568 00:32:33,267 --> 00:32:35,556 and how old or young were you when you started? 569 00:32:35,756 --> 00:32:39,910 Oh about five, on tiny little ski's 570 00:32:40,110 --> 00:32:41,800 it was quite frightening then 571 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,241 what is the appeal of it? 572 00:32:43,441 --> 00:32:48,453 Well the sort of freedom and going in the snow and the mountains 573 00:32:48,653 --> 00:32:50,761 and the feeling of speed 574 00:32:50,961 --> 00:32:53,663 and getting away from people if you can 575 00:32:53,863 --> 00:32:55,903 Do you save up to come ski-ing or...? 576 00:32:56,103 --> 00:32:58,828 I don't but my father does 577 00:32:59,028 --> 00:33:00,886 as he pays for me 578 00:33:01,150 --> 00:33:05,602 Your parents have been divorced since fourteen 579 00:33:05,802 --> 00:33:08,118 - Since you were fourteen - That's right, quite recently yes 580 00:33:08,318 --> 00:33:11,051 Tell me about that and the influence it's had on you 581 00:33:11,251 --> 00:33:13,153 Well not much influence in fact 582 00:33:13,353 --> 00:33:15,854 because it's happened when I'm quite old 583 00:33:16,054 --> 00:33:18,312 and I'm away from home a lot anyway 584 00:33:18,512 --> 00:33:21,427 it's very sad of course 585 00:33:21,627 --> 00:33:23,902 but I don't think it has had a great deal of influence 586 00:33:24,102 --> 00:33:26,931 if it had happened when I was much younger 587 00:33:27,131 --> 00:33:29,071 it would've had much more influence 588 00:33:29,271 --> 00:33:31,702 an adverse influence I would've thought 589 00:33:31,902 --> 00:33:37,239 Did your parents divorce leave any lasting mark on you? 590 00:33:37,439 --> 00:33:38,796 I don't know, I mean 591 00:33:38,797 --> 00:33:41,631 seen the film at fourteen so 592 00:33:41,831 --> 00:33:46,209 and that's of our closest time, I would've thought it did but... 593 00:33:46,409 --> 00:33:48,468 don't talk about that anyway so... 594 00:33:48,668 --> 00:33:49,668 Why? 595 00:33:51,097 --> 00:33:54,645 I think it's unfair on them 596 00:33:56,016 --> 00:33:59,824 Very few parents I think, bring up their children... 597 00:34:00,024 --> 00:34:04,475 with the intention of belittling them or doing as little for them as possible 598 00:34:04,675 --> 00:34:05,513 I think 599 00:34:05,548 --> 00:34:08,021 you have to assume that most parents do as much as they can 600 00:34:08,221 --> 00:34:10,899 given the circumstances of the children 601 00:34:11,099 --> 00:34:14,581 and obviously things could've been far worse 602 00:34:14,781 --> 00:34:18,583 Do you think it's changed your attitude to marriage? or... 603 00:34:18,783 --> 00:34:21,212 It just means that 604 00:34:21,213 --> 00:34:24,780 because I was faced with that situation I have an attitude which is a positive attitude 605 00:34:24,980 --> 00:34:30,177 rather than "well everybody else gets married therefore I shall get married" 606 00:34:33,257 --> 00:34:37,749 My attitude would be that if one is going to have children 607 00:34:37,949 --> 00:34:42,969 if you want to have children then that's a very real reason for getting married 608 00:34:43,169 --> 00:34:44,889 but if you get married... 609 00:34:45,089 --> 00:34:48,015 it's an agreement to make the thing work for eighteen years 610 00:34:48,215 --> 00:34:52,442 or however long it is until the children have grown up 611 00:34:52,642 --> 00:34:57,215 no there's no point in just sitting it out for eighteen years 612 00:34:57,415 --> 00:35:00,695 there's nothing worse than that, it would be better for the parents to get a divorce 613 00:35:00,895 --> 00:35:02,823 I think people 614 00:35:03,827 --> 00:35:06,546 perhaps don't make as much effort 615 00:35:06,746 --> 00:35:09,503 as they should have, or should do to make marriages work 616 00:35:09,703 --> 00:35:13,056 it's very easy for me to say so as I've never been in the position 617 00:35:13,256 --> 00:35:17,784 In what way should people make more effort? 618 00:35:18,794 --> 00:35:21,923 I think people just take too much for granted when they get married 619 00:35:22,123 --> 00:35:24,050 or used to, not now perhaps 620 00:35:24,250 --> 00:35:26,494 I mean, I don't know about you for instance 621 00:35:26,694 --> 00:35:30,250 I know my mother, she's said that 622 00:35:30,450 --> 00:35:32,902 she's spoilt really 623 00:35:32,903 --> 00:35:36,423 and she never realised how lucky she'd been until she'd been divorced 624 00:35:36,623 --> 00:35:38,622 Up to about twelve 625 00:35:39,413 --> 00:35:41,005 maybe it's different with other people, but 626 00:35:41,205 --> 00:35:44,884 I found that you're much more attached to your parents 627 00:35:45,084 --> 00:35:49,014 once you come to about thirteen, fourteen 628 00:35:49,214 --> 00:35:51,286 you're not quite so attached to them 629 00:35:51,486 --> 00:35:55,276 I think the system of having house captains 630 00:35:55,476 --> 00:35:56,594 is rather good 631 00:35:56,595 --> 00:35:58,845 because when somebody is naughty 632 00:35:59,045 --> 00:36:03,900 the house captain asks him and... 633 00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:06,095 and has a talk to him 634 00:36:06,295 --> 00:36:11,006 once I had a talk to Grevil, he was in my house 635 00:36:11,206 --> 00:36:12,407 and 636 00:36:12,698 --> 00:36:19,386 I asked Sir if he could put him out of my house because he was always getting minuses 637 00:36:19,586 --> 00:36:21,188 What did Sir say? 638 00:36:21,189 --> 00:36:24,820 Sir said that he would... 639 00:36:25,020 --> 00:36:26,973 we would see about it this term 640 00:36:27,173 --> 00:36:30,099 Well I think it's a very good system 641 00:36:30,299 --> 00:36:31,911 Have you had to speak to anyone? 642 00:36:32,111 --> 00:36:35,787 - Just because you are one I suppose? - No, no I haven't! 643 00:36:35,987 --> 00:36:37,653 - You're not are you? - But I am! 644 00:36:37,853 --> 00:36:42,680 Straw, Mac and Nessie got three minuses in a day 645 00:36:43,648 --> 00:36:46,526 If I work in Law I should like a reasonable amount of success 646 00:36:46,726 --> 00:36:49,469 I shouldn't like to be on the bread-line which is all to common 647 00:36:49,669 --> 00:36:51,791 I'd like to be a Solicitor 648 00:36:51,991 --> 00:36:54,267 and, also fairly successful 649 00:36:54,467 --> 00:36:55,935 I only know what I don't want and that's 650 00:36:56,135 --> 00:36:59,691 a nuclear family in a semi-detached in Brentford 651 00:36:59,891 --> 00:37:01,365 Do you three see yourselves... 652 00:37:01,565 --> 00:37:05,658 staying in England, living in England, making your careers in England? 653 00:37:05,858 --> 00:37:06,959 Yes 654 00:37:07,315 --> 00:37:11,198 Well the trouble is Law is not really very exportable 655 00:37:11,398 --> 00:37:12,905 From my point of view anyway 656 00:37:13,105 --> 00:37:14,305 I quite like England 657 00:37:14,306 --> 00:37:18,468 'cause I can't say I really approve very much of the sort people who emigrate 658 00:37:18,668 --> 00:37:20,385 I mean it's too easy for people who... 659 00:37:20,585 --> 00:37:24,373 this is where I would agree with you about people who have had opportunities 660 00:37:24,573 --> 00:37:28,128 I do think they've got a corresponding duty to sort of put back... 661 00:37:28,328 --> 00:37:32,126 you know, people who have had things going well for them 662 00:37:32,326 --> 00:37:37,649 really ought to stay and help the country out when things aren't going very well 663 00:37:37,849 --> 00:37:39,955 I don't believe in all this pulling one's money out 664 00:37:40,155 --> 00:37:43,248 but that's a moral point of view, I do believe people have the right to live where they like 665 00:37:43,448 --> 00:37:44,888 and also to move their assets around 666 00:37:45,088 --> 00:37:50,520 but on a moral level I do feel very strongly that people shouldn't quit 667 00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:53,621 - Is that why you don't want to leave? - Yes 668 00:37:53,821 --> 00:37:59,005 and also I can't imagine anywhere so nice as England 669 00:37:59,205 --> 00:38:03,310 Probably stay in England for the reasons that John put forward, I think one has a moral duty 670 00:38:03,510 --> 00:38:06,043 It sounds terrible but, you know...if... 671 00:38:06,243 --> 00:38:09,158 It's up to one certainly to make an attempt 672 00:38:09,358 --> 00:38:14,550 to put something back in to whatever it is that you're doing in England 673 00:38:14,750 --> 00:38:18,442 Having used the various facilities that are put out for you by the state 674 00:38:18,642 --> 00:38:22,296 I think the more you've had out of the country 675 00:38:22,496 --> 00:38:24,442 the more privileges you're born with 676 00:38:24,642 --> 00:38:28,453 the greater your duty is 677 00:38:28,653 --> 00:38:31,842 We chose two boys from a children's home in Middlesex 678 00:38:32,042 --> 00:38:33,126 Paul 679 00:38:33,127 --> 00:38:35,783 Say you had a wife 680 00:38:37,697 --> 00:38:41,606 say you had to eat what they cooked you 681 00:38:41,806 --> 00:38:46,114 and say I don't like vegetables, well I don't 682 00:38:46,314 --> 00:38:51,000 and say she said "you have to eat what you get" 683 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:57,134 So I don't like vegetables so say she gives me vegetables then that's it 684 00:38:57,334 --> 00:38:59,410 Well as far as I know my mother and father got... 685 00:38:59,610 --> 00:39:03,574 well they separated originally I think 686 00:39:03,798 --> 00:39:05,723 they eventually got divorced 687 00:39:05,923 --> 00:39:10,728 I went to the boarding school for one year then we emigrated to Australia 688 00:39:10,928 --> 00:39:14,657 my father got remarried 689 00:39:14,885 --> 00:39:17,519 and how do you get on with your step-mum? 690 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,554 Pretty well but like I said before I'm just not close enough 691 00:39:21,754 --> 00:39:24,852 I'm not really close to my father either 692 00:39:25,052 --> 00:39:27,682 Paul left the children's home when he was eight 693 00:39:27,882 --> 00:39:30,323 Our other boy stayed until he was thirteen 694 00:39:30,523 --> 00:39:31,873 Symon 695 00:39:32,637 --> 00:39:35,718 Was it difficult moving from the home back to live with your mother? 696 00:39:35,918 --> 00:39:39,478 - You're still here after, eight years now? - Yeah yeah 697 00:39:39,678 --> 00:39:42,822 Well I find it's comfortable 698 00:39:43,022 --> 00:39:47,356 See I can get on well with my mother sometimes 699 00:39:47,556 --> 00:39:49,631 well that's good because a lot of... 700 00:39:49,831 --> 00:39:54,717 young children can't get on with their parents at all at this time of the year, their life 701 00:39:54,917 --> 00:39:58,843 but I get on pretty well with my mum now 702 00:39:59,043 --> 00:40:01,020 we talk very well with each other 703 00:40:01,220 --> 00:40:02,473 but it's.. 704 00:40:02,474 --> 00:40:05,149 Sometimes not quite as mother and son 705 00:40:05,349 --> 00:40:07,009 sort of more like friends 706 00:40:07,209 --> 00:40:09,304 What sort of life does your mother have? 707 00:40:09,504 --> 00:40:13,602 Well it seems hard, I mean she's always been... 708 00:40:13,802 --> 00:40:15,304 nervous 709 00:40:15,305 --> 00:40:16,802 not all the time, but... 710 00:40:17,002 --> 00:40:22,141 she has periods of depression or deep depression or whatever you want to call it 711 00:40:22,341 --> 00:40:25,594 that sort of makes me think "well what happened there?" 712 00:40:25,794 --> 00:40:27,992 What effect has that had on you do you think? 713 00:40:28,192 --> 00:40:32,097 Well it's made me very sort of protective towards her 714 00:40:32,297 --> 00:40:35,350 I feel I've got to help her all the time 715 00:40:35,550 --> 00:40:37,778 They say "Where's your father then?" 716 00:40:37,978 --> 00:40:41,193 You know when your mums out at work "Where's your father?" 717 00:40:41,393 --> 00:40:45,713 and I just tell them I ain't got one 718 00:40:49,233 --> 00:40:52,759 What effect has that had on you? 719 00:40:52,959 --> 00:40:57,997 Well I don't think it's had any effect on me, 'cause... 720 00:40:58,227 --> 00:41:00,783 what you don't have you don't miss 721 00:41:00,983 --> 00:41:03,464 Twenty years ago 722 00:41:04,602 --> 00:41:06,082 when I was born 723 00:41:06,538 --> 00:41:08,209 an illegitimate child, you know 724 00:41:08,409 --> 00:41:11,668 that's something that's only whispered about 725 00:41:11,868 --> 00:41:15,791 people feel strongly about it in those days 726 00:41:15,991 --> 00:41:18,827 but nowadays it's.. 727 00:41:20,062 --> 00:41:21,155 It's not a serious matter 728 00:41:21,355 --> 00:41:24,833 the serious point is whether you stay with someone or you leave them 729 00:41:25,033 --> 00:41:28,635 We took Paul and Symon round the buildings which were once the children's home 730 00:41:28,835 --> 00:41:32,199 I remember this path but I've never walked on it was out of bounds 731 00:41:32,399 --> 00:41:35,522 the only place I saw this was from out the windows and that 732 00:41:35,722 --> 00:41:38,095 - What was that there? - That? That was eh... 733 00:41:38,295 --> 00:41:40,765 That was hospital juniors, that's where we used to be 734 00:41:40,965 --> 00:41:42,473 - Really? - Yeah 735 00:41:42,474 --> 00:41:44,685 I don't like the big boys 736 00:41:44,885 --> 00:41:46,609 Hitting us and... 737 00:41:46,610 --> 00:41:48,815 and the staff is up in the washroom 738 00:41:49,015 --> 00:41:52,013 sends the nurse out, "well there's no talking" 739 00:41:52,213 --> 00:41:54,068 "No I wasn't talking today" 740 00:41:54,268 --> 00:41:58,496 Then Brown sent me out for nothing 741 00:42:02,754 --> 00:42:04,257 Remember the tiles? 742 00:42:04,258 --> 00:42:06,761 - No not really - Yeah I remember them when they were cleaner 743 00:42:06,961 --> 00:42:11,359 - I remember the two offices - Yeah the doctors and the nurses 744 00:42:11,559 --> 00:42:13,243 Some things gone 745 00:42:13,244 --> 00:42:15,404 - The seats - Yeah the seats 746 00:42:15,604 --> 00:42:18,821 The smell, the smells gone 747 00:42:19,021 --> 00:42:20,710 - Remember Midgely - Yeah 748 00:42:20,910 --> 00:42:23,008 He was a real bastard 749 00:42:23,208 --> 00:42:25,609 I remember one night, I forget what I actually did 750 00:42:25,809 --> 00:42:28,378 But he made me clean all the shoes in the house 751 00:42:28,578 --> 00:42:32,109 there was about fifty pair of shoes and took about two hours or something 752 00:42:32,309 --> 00:42:38,504 Well I feel like joining in when there's already a fight 753 00:42:38,704 --> 00:42:40,334 Ah do you remember Froggy Page? 754 00:42:40,534 --> 00:42:41,539 No 755 00:42:42,336 --> 00:42:44,250 He was the tailor 756 00:42:44,251 --> 00:42:45,798 - I remember him - Tailor? 757 00:42:45,998 --> 00:42:48,191 Yeah he was here for thirty-seven years or something 758 00:42:48,391 --> 00:42:51,814 bent over backwards or bent over forwards or something 759 00:42:52,014 --> 00:42:53,562 - The golf course - Yeah 760 00:42:53,762 --> 00:42:56,825 Used to think about running away over that when you'd get scared 761 00:42:57,025 --> 00:43:00,586 That's where the headmaster's son used to shoot the squirrel's off the trees isn't it - yeah 762 00:43:00,786 --> 00:43:02,400 Do you remember the boy that 763 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,986 in the senior part 764 00:43:04,987 --> 00:43:06,434 where my brother was, he 765 00:43:06,634 --> 00:43:10,238 he was sleeping one time and he went out the second story window 766 00:43:10,438 --> 00:43:13,022 Oh the sleep walker, Weaver, Robert Weaver 767 00:43:13,222 --> 00:43:16,613 - We all had to pray for him - Yeah 768 00:43:16,813 --> 00:43:19,111 - Everybody said he had a steel plate in his head - Yeah 769 00:43:19,311 --> 00:43:24,481 How have you got on with Symon? after you haven't seen him for fourteen years 770 00:43:24,681 --> 00:43:28,612 Well I didn't recognise him at all 771 00:43:28,812 --> 00:43:33,200 I think we got along really well, I don't know what he'd say to that but 772 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,705 I found him very likeable 773 00:43:38,706 --> 00:43:43,477 He's just the sort of person who if I could I'd like to do something for them 774 00:43:43,677 --> 00:43:48,007 Because I feel I've got, no offence to him, but I feel I've got more than him 775 00:43:48,207 --> 00:43:50,549 It's just that it seems to me that 776 00:43:50,749 --> 00:43:54,128 things have fallen into line now for me 777 00:43:54,328 --> 00:43:58,467 Every thing's started to come good, I've started to enjoy life 778 00:43:58,667 --> 00:44:02,229 and I've started to think "well I'm not a no hoper" 779 00:44:02,429 --> 00:44:06,230 Because I think that's what I've always thought about myself 780 00:44:06,430 --> 00:44:09,338 I know I didn't have any confidence in myself 781 00:44:09,538 --> 00:44:12,173 despite what I said when I was fourteen 782 00:44:12,373 --> 00:44:14,155 I've always lacked confidence 783 00:44:14,355 --> 00:44:17,246 I still do to a certain extent but nothing 784 00:44:17,446 --> 00:44:21,921 nothing like I did say when I was fourteen 785 00:44:22,121 --> 00:44:25,537 The job I'm in, I mean, brick laying 786 00:44:25,737 --> 00:44:29,795 I mean I enjoy it, it interests me 787 00:44:29,995 --> 00:44:33,583 and I'm very content at work 788 00:44:34,354 --> 00:44:39,004 in June last year I was made a junior partner 789 00:44:39,204 --> 00:44:42,172 though that was through circumstances 790 00:44:42,372 --> 00:44:44,545 but I look at it this way 791 00:44:44,745 --> 00:44:46,494 I'm not great with my life 792 00:44:46,694 --> 00:44:49,701 but if I wasn't good enough and my boss didn't think I was good enough 793 00:44:49,901 --> 00:44:51,995 he would've never made me a junior partner 794 00:44:52,195 --> 00:44:53,856 as for the job 795 00:44:53,857 --> 00:44:55,258 you know, you build a house 796 00:44:55,458 --> 00:44:57,730 then you turn around and look at it and say "well I did that" 797 00:44:57,930 --> 00:45:00,677 it's better than having a whole row of figures 798 00:45:00,877 --> 00:45:04,695 it's substance you know, there's something there 799 00:45:05,390 --> 00:45:10,614 Symon works in the freezer room of a meat company near his home in Middlesex 800 00:45:10,814 --> 00:45:14,395 My job's running away from me 801 00:45:15,590 --> 00:45:19,360 You do jobs which I suppose are fairly routine and dull 802 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,545 - Yeah - What keeps you going during them? 803 00:45:23,745 --> 00:45:26,745 Oh it's definitely the people there 804 00:45:26,945 --> 00:45:30,536 You work up a kind of team spirit there, y'know what I mean 805 00:45:30,736 --> 00:45:32,595 You can... 806 00:45:33,876 --> 00:45:36,284 think about all the work you've got to do in the morning 807 00:45:36,484 --> 00:45:38,008 and you just don't want to go 808 00:45:38,208 --> 00:45:41,032 but once you get there just sort of generally... 809 00:45:41,232 --> 00:45:43,627 I was going to say messing around there, I won't say that 810 00:45:43,827 --> 00:45:45,190 the managers might see it 811 00:45:45,390 --> 00:45:46,966 sort of joking about 812 00:45:46,967 --> 00:45:50,128 they make you feel you want to get the work done 813 00:45:50,328 --> 00:45:51,500 Go out and get some 814 00:45:52,897 --> 00:45:54,081 just ask for them 815 00:45:54,082 --> 00:45:57,473 and we always say 816 00:45:57,992 --> 00:46:00,897 when we come out of the chiller we don't want to go back in 817 00:46:01,097 --> 00:46:05,490 but when we get back in we get on with it 818 00:46:06,136 --> 00:46:08,171 So are you a good time keeper? 819 00:46:08,371 --> 00:46:09,936 Ah it depends 820 00:46:10,118 --> 00:46:11,770 Usually I try to get to work early 821 00:46:11,970 --> 00:46:15,952 but I have periods of where I just say "sod it" 822 00:46:16,152 --> 00:46:19,330 if I get there I get there 823 00:46:19,530 --> 00:46:22,014 I think the hardest thing is to get up in the morning 824 00:46:22,214 --> 00:46:24,089 for me it takes a great deal out of me now 825 00:46:24,289 --> 00:46:27,386 Do you never feel you should be doing better jobs than these? 826 00:46:27,586 --> 00:46:31,127 Aren't you worth more than this? 827 00:46:33,392 --> 00:46:35,667 No I haven't really 828 00:46:35,668 --> 00:46:37,947 I suppose I just like hard work, I don't know 829 00:46:38,147 --> 00:46:39,753 But eh... 830 00:46:40,727 --> 00:46:43,576 It's never really sort of worried me 831 00:46:43,776 --> 00:46:47,933 I suppose it should but it just hasn't 832 00:46:48,133 --> 00:46:52,364 and how do you see the future as far as work goes? 833 00:46:54,093 --> 00:46:57,979 Well I know I can't stay at Walls forever, I mean it's just not me 834 00:46:58,179 --> 00:47:02,588 I couldn't stay there for that long, my mind would go dead 835 00:47:02,788 --> 00:47:04,244 But eh... 836 00:47:07,226 --> 00:47:11,647 I think if I really wanted to I could learn a trade, even now 837 00:47:11,847 --> 00:47:18,019 Y'know if I really felt that I ought to get out and do something different 838 00:47:18,219 --> 00:47:21,085 I could learn a trade if I wanted to 839 00:47:21,285 --> 00:47:26,493 and what would you like to be doing say in seven years? 840 00:47:29,485 --> 00:47:34,195 Well I couldn't really say I haven't thought one year ahead yet 841 00:47:34,395 --> 00:47:36,863 I think I'm still sort of young in my head 842 00:47:37,063 --> 00:47:39,463 I don't really sort of take things seriously 843 00:47:39,663 --> 00:47:41,686 All I want out of life is to be happy 844 00:47:41,886 --> 00:47:45,265 and when I say happy I want to be happily married as well 845 00:47:45,465 --> 00:47:49,766 because I can't say I don't want to get married 846 00:47:49,966 --> 00:47:51,613 because I think I do 847 00:47:51,614 --> 00:47:53,296 but I want to be happily married y'know 848 00:47:53,496 --> 00:47:55,678 therefore I want to make sure I think 849 00:47:55,878 --> 00:48:00,146 How would you define happiness? What is it? 850 00:48:01,784 --> 00:48:06,484 Basically to me it's the will to live 851 00:48:06,708 --> 00:48:10,094 I mean, me I literally love life, I love people 852 00:48:10,294 --> 00:48:12,343 I mean I think before I didn't 853 00:48:12,543 --> 00:48:15,190 I mean, when I was fourteen I said 854 00:48:15,390 --> 00:48:18,580 I've forgotten what the question was but I said 855 00:48:18,780 --> 00:48:20,263 something about I want to be alone 856 00:48:20,463 --> 00:48:24,154 and when I said that I know even now I meant that 857 00:48:24,354 --> 00:48:27,404 if someone had dropped me out in the Sahara Desert 858 00:48:27,604 --> 00:48:31,374 I probably would've been happy more or less if you get the point 859 00:48:31,574 --> 00:48:33,735 Whereas I'm not like that now, I'd sooner be around people 860 00:48:33,935 --> 00:48:38,355 I don't like doing things by myself 861 00:48:38,693 --> 00:48:45,495 and happiness to me is a love for life and a love for people 862 00:48:45,695 --> 00:48:49,071 I think I admire people with great determination 863 00:48:49,271 --> 00:48:52,217 y'know like people who just come up from nothing 864 00:48:52,417 --> 00:48:56,571 they build up their life from absolutely nothing 865 00:48:59,635 --> 00:49:01,693 I could say Muhammad Ali 866 00:49:01,893 --> 00:49:05,916 because he absolutely came from nothing 867 00:49:06,116 --> 00:49:10,591 I mean you can't agree with everything he says but his word goes down now 868 00:49:10,791 --> 00:49:16,834 he's the biggest thing in sport he's one of the biggest things in life 869 00:49:17,572 --> 00:49:20,600 I mean people like him 870 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:29,274 What when you look at yourself do you think your weaknesses and strengths are? 871 00:49:36,838 --> 00:49:40,254 I think my main weakness is I don't really take a grip of life 872 00:49:40,454 --> 00:49:43,262 I don't really look... 873 00:49:43,462 --> 00:49:47,753 I always look deeply into it but it just seems to be... 874 00:49:47,953 --> 00:49:52,174 just a sort of hobby with me, I look at everything and I criticise it 875 00:49:52,374 --> 00:49:56,485 and I work everything out but after that I just sort of leave it 876 00:49:56,685 --> 00:49:59,614 I find it hard to express emotion most of the time 877 00:49:59,814 --> 00:50:02,182 although I'm getting on top of that 878 00:50:02,382 --> 00:50:04,249 more happy now? 879 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:09,258 Just the simple things to say to Susan, y'know "I love you" or something like that 880 00:50:09,458 --> 00:50:12,305 I mean I can tell you about it but 881 00:50:12,505 --> 00:50:16,946 I really haven't been able to say it freely to Susan 882 00:50:17,146 --> 00:50:19,381 I suppose that's a weakness 883 00:50:19,581 --> 00:50:21,076 Do you have a dream? 884 00:50:22,103 --> 00:50:23,197 A dream? not... 885 00:50:23,198 --> 00:50:29,490 Not so much a dream but I know if I ever wanted to get on I could do it 886 00:50:29,690 --> 00:50:35,183 I mean I always feel that I've got something inside me that would make me move 887 00:50:35,383 --> 00:50:37,272 But eh... 888 00:50:38,372 --> 00:50:41,373 I think what it is really is I'm just waiting for an excuse to use it 889 00:50:41,573 --> 00:50:46,864 Y'know at the moment I feel ok just getting on with my life 890 00:50:47,064 --> 00:50:49,315 just sort of keeping up 891 00:50:49,515 --> 00:50:52,841 but I know if I really wanted to I could get on 892 00:50:53,041 --> 00:50:57,438 It'll only take a little spark with me to do it 893 00:51:00,498 --> 00:51:05,115 Is it important to fight? Yes 894 00:51:14,629 --> 00:51:17,854 Would everybody please sit round now and get on with their work 895 00:51:18,054 --> 00:51:21,419 I don't want to see any backs to me 896 00:51:21,619 --> 00:51:26,297 Shouldn't be anybody turning round, Tony do you hear aswell? 897 00:51:26,497 --> 00:51:29,333 Get on with your work in front 898 00:51:29,533 --> 00:51:31,083 Tony! 899 00:51:31,464 --> 00:51:33,668 Don't turn round again 900 00:51:33,868 --> 00:51:38,576 I want to be a jockey when I grow up yeah I want to be a jockey when I grow up 901 00:51:43,801 --> 00:51:46,854 Tony left his Eastend secondary modern school at fifteen 902 00:51:47,054 --> 00:51:52,408 and became an apprentice at Tommy Gosling's racing stables in Epsom 903 00:51:56,566 --> 00:52:01,094 This is a photo finish of when I rode at Newberry 904 00:52:01,657 --> 00:52:02,907 I'm the one with the white cap 905 00:52:03,107 --> 00:52:07,092 I was beaten a length and a half for third and had a photo finish 906 00:52:07,292 --> 00:52:09,756 so I took it out the box and kept it as a souvenir 907 00:52:09,956 --> 00:52:11,797 Have you any other pictures of you as a jockey? 908 00:52:11,997 --> 00:52:14,798 Yeah I've got a lot of them 909 00:52:14,998 --> 00:52:16,149 Show me that one 910 00:52:17,293 --> 00:52:19,800 That one when I was at Windsor 911 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,222 that was my last ride on the old horse, Sharrod Heath that was 912 00:52:23,422 --> 00:52:25,688 he was a lovely old horse, I'll never forget him 913 00:52:25,888 --> 00:52:27,734 How many rides did you have? 914 00:52:27,934 --> 00:52:29,119 Only three 915 00:52:29,635 --> 00:52:30,970 Why was that? 916 00:52:31,202 --> 00:52:33,708 Well obviously if I was good enough I would've had more 917 00:52:33,908 --> 00:52:38,043 that was the first day I ever put myself in jockey silks 918 00:52:38,243 --> 00:52:40,045 that was my first ride ever 919 00:52:40,245 --> 00:52:41,805 How did it feel like? 920 00:52:42,005 --> 00:52:45,565 It feel like there's no words that can explain how it felt 921 00:52:45,765 --> 00:52:49,362 that one was when I was going to the parade ring 922 00:52:49,562 --> 00:52:51,518 They're not very good 923 00:52:51,718 --> 00:52:54,675 my brother, I mean he's not no good at taking photos 924 00:52:54,875 --> 00:52:56,680 He's no Lord Snowdon 925 00:52:56,681 --> 00:52:58,331 But describe the feeling, go on 926 00:52:58,531 --> 00:53:00,298 Describe, well...I mean I.. 927 00:53:00,498 --> 00:53:03,331 Frankie Durr right, he was told to look after me 928 00:53:03,531 --> 00:53:06,039 so I went in there I said "I don't know my first ride" 929 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:10,742 and he said "alright don't worry, your boss has told me to look after you" 930 00:53:10,942 --> 00:53:11,888 and so 931 00:53:11,889 --> 00:53:13,796 I was changing into my silks 932 00:53:13,996 --> 00:53:17,083 and I felt good y'know, I could see all the faces that I think 933 00:53:17,283 --> 00:53:20,669 and when I look at the newspaper I think, Jeff Lewis, Frankie Durr and... 934 00:53:20,869 --> 00:53:24,199 I thought to myself all of a sudden I'm in the same room getting changed 935 00:53:24,399 --> 00:53:25,796 Then I walked in the parade room 936 00:53:25,996 --> 00:53:27,489 the parade ring and eh... 937 00:53:27,689 --> 00:53:30,958 and all my family's there and they're all going "Go on Tone!" 938 00:53:31,158 --> 00:53:32,591 and the boss came over and he said 939 00:53:32,791 --> 00:53:35,500 you've got to do this to the horse, you hold him back, you go half pace 940 00:53:35,700 --> 00:53:37,782 keep your hands down, keep him in the rails 941 00:53:37,982 --> 00:53:39,769 and I'm going "yeah yeah" like, nod 942 00:53:39,969 --> 00:53:42,945 and all of a sudden when he said "Jockeys please mount" 943 00:53:43,145 --> 00:53:44,644 and the bell went "Ding ding" 944 00:53:44,844 --> 00:53:47,638 and my heart just sunk because I thought to myself 945 00:53:47,838 --> 00:53:50,108 Here I was yesterday a sort of nobody 946 00:53:50,308 --> 00:53:53,159 and here I am today, I'm king like 947 00:53:53,359 --> 00:53:55,973 I felt king for one day, well for ten minutes 948 00:53:56,173 --> 00:53:57,825 Do you regret not making it? 949 00:53:58,025 --> 00:54:02,005 Well I would've given my right arm at the time to become a jockey 950 00:54:02,205 --> 00:54:03,991 But now... 951 00:54:03,992 --> 00:54:07,000 well I wasn't good enough, it's as easy as that 952 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,824 What will you do if you don't make it as a jockey? 953 00:54:10,024 --> 00:54:11,635 I don't know 954 00:54:11,636 --> 00:54:15,700 If I knew I couldn't be one I'd get out of the game 955 00:54:15,900 --> 00:54:17,509 wouldn't bother 956 00:54:17,510 --> 00:54:20,112 and what do you think you would do then? 957 00:54:20,312 --> 00:54:21,927 Learn taxi's 958 00:54:22,503 --> 00:54:24,468 Taxi driver 959 00:54:30,683 --> 00:54:33,261 I will be a cab driver right, how can I fail? 960 00:54:33,461 --> 00:54:35,552 I got one brother taxi driver pulling me 961 00:54:35,752 --> 00:54:39,137 and the other brother pushing me so I got to make it 962 00:54:39,337 --> 00:54:41,466 I will be a cab driver and I know I will 963 00:54:41,666 --> 00:54:45,253 and I'm going to prove every person who thinks I can't be a cab driver wrong 964 00:54:45,453 --> 00:54:48,823 and I'm going to get that badge and put it right in their face 965 00:54:49,023 --> 00:54:53,890 just to tell them how wrong they can be and how under estimated I am 966 00:54:54,090 --> 00:54:57,858 Doing the taxi knowledge means Tony going out on his motorbike every day 967 00:54:58,058 --> 00:55:00,665 and learning the hundreds of routes round the streets of London 968 00:55:00,865 --> 00:55:04,101 Well I can just get up, go on my bike, do two runs, come home 969 00:55:04,301 --> 00:55:10,359 call them over then boom, I've done my days work then I go out here and earn my money 970 00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:12,891 Hackney Wick it's my sort of living 971 00:55:13,091 --> 00:55:15,397 I can say until the time I am a cab driver 972 00:55:15,597 --> 00:55:18,550 But mean my freedom's here and that is the main thing what I want 973 00:55:18,750 --> 00:55:23,200 Tony spends his spare time at Hackney Wick Greyhound Stadium placing bets for the punters 974 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,939 Fifty-five to twenty Boris 975 00:55:36,614 --> 00:55:39,436 Five to one Cooladine 976 00:55:39,636 --> 00:55:43,095 Four and a half fifty's, four and a half fifty's 977 00:55:43,511 --> 00:55:45,557 Poor-Sunshine fourteen to one 978 00:55:45,757 --> 00:55:47,454 Take it, take it! 979 00:55:48,008 --> 00:55:50,861 If your father gambles you always looked upon how he gambles 980 00:55:51,061 --> 00:55:53,503 I tried my luck and see what he does 981 00:55:53,703 --> 00:55:56,000 and I took it from there, it's sort of in you 982 00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:00,248 some people drink and they can't get out of drinking, some people smoke and can't stop smoking 983 00:56:00,448 --> 00:56:03,585 well I think I'm firmly on the ground as a gambler 984 00:56:03,785 --> 00:56:07,265 I know you can't win gambling, putting money on the dogs and horses, I know that 985 00:56:07,465 --> 00:56:10,882 But when you put other peoples money on you can't lose 986 00:56:11,082 --> 00:56:12,375 What do they call you here? 987 00:56:12,575 --> 00:56:14,958 I reckon a pest, or something like that 988 00:56:15,158 --> 00:56:19,396 'cause I'm always running and doing everything that I shouldn't be doing 989 00:56:19,596 --> 00:56:22,465 I thought I was going to get barred one day 'cause I used to... 990 00:56:22,665 --> 00:56:24,663 Well I don't mean to make a nuisance of myself 991 00:56:24,863 --> 00:56:28,148 I mean if the other patrons of the place 992 00:56:28,348 --> 00:56:30,981 they don't want to see a little boy nipping between their feet 993 00:56:31,181 --> 00:56:33,449 running, putting a bet on for a person 994 00:56:33,649 --> 00:56:36,075 You understand? they think "cor what's he doing is he mad?" 995 00:56:36,275 --> 00:56:39,114 I mean I walk up there I order the teas 996 00:56:39,314 --> 00:56:41,459 There could be eight people in front of me, I just go... 997 00:56:41,659 --> 00:56:43,586 Can I have a tea please, tea please, five times 998 00:56:43,786 --> 00:56:44,757 tea please tea please 999 00:56:44,957 --> 00:56:48,606 and they've got to serve me before them to get rid of me, do you understand? 1000 00:56:48,806 --> 00:56:50,580 So that's how you've got to do it 1001 00:56:50,780 --> 00:56:53,096 Just keep on and on and on and they go 1002 00:56:53,296 --> 00:56:56,613 "oh driving me mad, here you are, get rid of him" it's as easy as that 1003 00:56:56,813 --> 00:57:00,157 That's the way to get on in life, just be a noise, annoyed 1004 00:57:00,357 --> 00:57:04,913 annoyance all the time to a person and they go "oh he's driving me mad, get him away from me 1005 00:57:05,113 --> 00:57:07,456 and more or less they give you the first option 1006 00:57:07,656 --> 00:57:09,441 sort of find that 1007 00:57:09,677 --> 00:57:12,905 You're very short, has that had much trouble? 1008 00:57:13,105 --> 00:57:15,218 Well a bird said to me the other day 1009 00:57:15,418 --> 00:57:16,799 She said "ain't you small" 1010 00:57:16,999 --> 00:57:19,490 So I said "but you're ugly at least I can grow" 1011 00:57:19,690 --> 00:57:22,731 What can they say to that? they can't say nothing can they? 1012 00:57:22,931 --> 00:57:24,403 To a thing like that, or... 1013 00:57:24,603 --> 00:57:25,782 or example... 1014 00:57:25,783 --> 00:57:29,126 She said to me "Ain't you small" so I looked at her tits and she was only about a thirty 1015 00:57:29,326 --> 00:57:32,521 I said "But you're not too big either so we're both in the same way" 1016 00:57:32,721 --> 00:57:34,758 - Have you got a girlfriend? - No 1017 00:57:34,958 --> 00:57:37,512 Would you like to have a girlfriend? 1018 00:57:37,712 --> 00:57:38,538 No 1019 00:57:38,539 --> 00:57:40,037 Do you understand "The Four F's?" 1020 00:57:40,237 --> 00:57:42,216 Find the, feed them, forget them 1021 00:57:42,416 --> 00:57:45,279 for the other F I'll let you use your own discrimination 1022 00:57:45,479 --> 00:57:46,297 I mean... 1023 00:57:46,298 --> 00:57:47,758 this one 1024 00:57:47,759 --> 00:57:49,813 I tried to do the three F's 1025 00:57:50,013 --> 00:57:52,038 but I couldn't forget her 1026 00:57:52,238 --> 00:57:54,606 I'd done the three F's but I couldn't forget her 1027 00:57:54,806 --> 00:57:57,238 It sounds silly but that's the only way I can put it 1028 00:57:57,438 --> 00:58:00,373 Tell me about the family, are you fairly closely knit? 1029 00:58:00,573 --> 00:58:02,094 Well I love them all 1030 00:58:02,095 --> 00:58:05,186 There's not one I don't love more than the other, other than my mum obviously 1031 00:58:05,386 --> 00:58:09,676 but your mum is the root of the tree, you love your mum best 1032 00:58:09,876 --> 00:58:12,090 So what do you like about living in the Eastend? 1033 00:58:12,290 --> 00:58:15,444 It's very sort of real, there's nothing false 1034 00:58:15,644 --> 00:58:17,516 only the police! 1035 00:58:17,877 --> 00:58:21,787 I'm firmly placed and there's no way I can see getting out, I wouldn't want to get out really 1036 00:58:21,987 --> 00:58:27,150 It's very hard to make it in the Eastend because the roots are firmly stuck in the ground 1037 00:58:27,350 --> 00:58:29,401 and you've got to have a big hard pull to get them out 1038 00:58:29,601 --> 00:58:32,265 So are there many villains in the Eastend? 1039 00:58:32,465 --> 00:58:34,412 There has been in the time I suppose 1040 00:58:34,612 --> 00:58:37,122 the originals were the Kray twins 1041 00:58:37,322 --> 00:58:39,714 We're in Vallance Rd now, as it goes they used to live here 1042 00:58:39,914 --> 00:58:42,909 in a house they used to call Fort Vallance 1043 00:58:43,109 --> 00:58:45,609 'cause it was that hard to get into I expect 1044 00:58:45,809 --> 00:58:47,567 Do you have much to do with villains? 1045 00:58:47,767 --> 00:58:51,151 I can't say I have much to do, I wouldn't say I'm a villain myself 1046 00:58:51,351 --> 00:58:54,288 I don't go thieving and don't do anybody any harm fighting wise 1047 00:58:54,488 --> 00:58:56,091 I'm trying to say that 1048 00:58:56,291 --> 00:59:01,236 Wherever you go there's villains and whether you mix with them or not it's up to you 1049 00:59:01,436 --> 00:59:04,423 Does it worry you the possibility of becoming one of them? 1050 00:59:04,623 --> 00:59:06,546 How can I become a villain? 1051 00:59:06,746 --> 00:59:09,449 If it's not in there, it's not born in there you won't become one 1052 00:59:09,649 --> 00:59:12,582 Don't you think you're going to regret not having an education? 1053 00:59:12,782 --> 00:59:15,399 Where does that come into it? It doesn't come into it in my mind? 1054 00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:19,471 Education is just a thing to say "my son is higher than him" 1055 00:59:19,671 --> 00:59:21,788 or "my son had a better background than him" 1056 00:59:21,988 --> 00:59:23,528 I mean 1057 00:59:23,529 --> 00:59:26,688 I'm as good or even better than most of them people 1058 00:59:26,888 --> 00:59:29,095 especially on this program 1059 00:59:29,295 --> 00:59:30,295 I mean 1060 00:59:30,507 --> 00:59:32,102 On one of the trailers you'll think 1061 00:59:32,302 --> 00:59:35,044 oh the Eastend boy and he ain't got a no good education 1062 00:59:35,244 --> 00:59:38,900 but all of a sudden the Eastend boy's got a car and a motorbike and he goes to Spain every year 1063 00:59:39,100 --> 00:59:40,415 and whatever 1064 00:59:40,749 --> 00:59:42,218 and have I worked for it? 1065 00:59:42,418 --> 00:59:43,871 No I'm here putting bets on 1066 00:59:44,071 --> 00:59:45,697 and you think "how does he do it?" 1067 00:59:45,897 --> 00:59:47,963 and there's a boy, who's he? and whatever 1068 00:59:48,163 --> 00:59:51,858 he's studying to be a professor, he's making up things 1069 00:59:52,058 --> 00:59:54,515 They're mainly education, there's no education in this world 1070 00:59:54,715 --> 00:59:56,684 Just one big rat race and you've got to 1071 00:59:56,884 --> 00:59:59,722 kill your man next to you to get in front of him 1072 00:59:59,922 --> 01:00:03,165 What do you think about trade unions and things like that? 1073 01:00:03,365 --> 01:00:05,711 I don't under know I don't 1074 01:00:05,911 --> 01:00:08,776 I don't know enough to know about them if you understand me 1075 01:00:08,976 --> 01:00:10,206 I mean 1076 01:00:10,207 --> 01:00:14,598 I'm not a politician so let them worry about what's coming for the next day 1077 01:00:14,798 --> 01:00:16,115 all I understand is 1078 01:00:16,116 --> 01:00:21,653 dogs, prices, girls, knowledge, roads, streets, squares and mum and dad and love 1079 01:00:21,853 --> 01:00:26,277 that's all I understand that's all I want to understand 1080 01:00:32,069 --> 01:00:33,401 Here you are 1081 01:00:36,584 --> 01:00:38,826 Come on three chase it 1082 01:00:39,026 --> 01:00:40,652 Come on boy 1083 01:00:41,153 --> 01:00:43,163 Go on three inside 1084 01:00:45,417 --> 01:00:47,363 Come on three??? 1085 01:00:47,988 --> 01:00:49,979 He's checking everywhere... 1086 01:00:50,179 --> 01:00:52,735 Well going to Africa 1087 01:00:52,736 --> 01:00:57,208 and try and teach people who are not civilised 1088 01:00:57,408 --> 01:01:00,470 to be more or less good 1089 01:01:00,670 --> 01:01:05,570 No I don't want to be a missionary because I just can't talk about it to people 1090 01:01:05,770 --> 01:01:11,580 Y'know, I am interested in it myself but I wouldn't be very good at it at all 1091 01:01:11,780 --> 01:01:14,151 and I wouldn't enjoy it 1092 01:01:14,351 --> 01:01:17,742 Why wouldn't you be good at it 1093 01:01:17,942 --> 01:01:20,650 Well I'm just not very good at... 1094 01:01:20,850 --> 01:01:25,798 at standing up in front of people and making a speech or anything like that 1095 01:01:25,998 --> 01:01:28,442 I'd like to keep it private, y'know 1096 01:01:28,642 --> 01:01:33,527 Is it possible you might ever think of going to the church? 1097 01:01:34,014 --> 01:01:37,320 It is possible, I've never said no definitely 1098 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:41,166 But I wouldn't be doing it after I go to university 1099 01:01:41,366 --> 01:01:47,255 I mean it's just possible in ten years time I suppose 1100 01:01:47,573 --> 01:01:51,411 What would draw you to the church? 1101 01:01:52,347 --> 01:01:57,984 I don't know, it wouldn't be dissatisfaction with whatever I'm doing at the moment 1102 01:01:58,184 --> 01:01:59,934 In a way 1103 01:02:00,201 --> 01:02:04,859 If whatever I was doing I was doing very successfully 1104 01:02:05,059 --> 01:02:08,287 then that would be a better reason for going into the church really 1105 01:02:08,487 --> 01:02:11,853 or at least if I did go into the church it would meant I was giving something up 1106 01:02:12,053 --> 01:02:13,368 But 1107 01:02:14,862 --> 01:02:18,850 I think the wrong reasons are if you are dissatisfied with what you're doing 1108 01:02:19,050 --> 01:02:23,949 in the general sense of doing a job badly or 1109 01:02:24,149 --> 01:02:26,902 a failure in some sort of way 1110 01:02:27,102 --> 01:02:32,213 Bruce is in his final year at University College Oxford, reading mathematics 1111 01:02:32,413 --> 01:02:37,933 and by Eisenstien you can show that this is irreducible 1112 01:02:38,133 --> 01:02:43,069 then you do a transformation on this???? x = to T+2 1113 01:02:43,269 --> 01:02:48,315 which you find is T cubed plus 17 squared plus 14 T plus 7 1114 01:02:48,515 --> 01:02:49,314 and 1115 01:02:49,315 --> 01:02:52,005 you observe that seven which is a prime 1116 01:02:52,205 --> 01:02:54,551 divides the co-efficient of T squared 1117 01:02:54,751 --> 01:02:57,491 T and the constant, not T cubed 1118 01:02:57,691 --> 01:03:01,927 and seven squared doesn't divide the constant term 1119 01:03:02,127 --> 01:03:04,311 so by Eisenstien 1120 01:03:04,312 --> 01:03:06,108 this is irreducible 1121 01:03:06,656 --> 01:03:10,207 so therefore two cross, two by seven is of degree three 1122 01:03:10,407 --> 01:03:13,397 and that length isn't constructable 1123 01:03:13,597 --> 01:03:15,519 from the quarry of our original theorem 1124 01:03:15,719 --> 01:03:17,463 so therefore the septagon's not constructable 1125 01:03:17,663 --> 01:03:21,296 Well that's a nice way of doing it, particularly using Eisenstien down here 1126 01:03:21,496 --> 01:03:24,779 his test is very popular, he was an interesting mathematician 1127 01:03:24,979 --> 01:03:29,598 What sort of job are you going to try for? 1128 01:03:30,367 --> 01:03:35,380 Well there was one job, I'd like to make maps really 1129 01:03:35,580 --> 01:03:39,788 and it's nice sort of outdoor life 1130 01:03:39,988 --> 01:03:42,598 you go to...I mean you travel around 1131 01:03:42,798 --> 01:03:43,938 and eh... 1132 01:03:44,407 --> 01:03:46,656 but there are very few jobs like that going 1133 01:03:46,856 --> 01:03:50,538 I'm sort of qualified, a general maths or science degree would do 1134 01:03:50,738 --> 01:03:52,912 or geography degree 1135 01:03:53,293 --> 01:03:54,847 But eh... 1136 01:03:57,814 --> 01:04:01,244 I think I've probably missed it this time round 1137 01:04:01,444 --> 01:04:03,146 and eh...but that's only... 1138 01:04:03,346 --> 01:04:08,104 perhaps I won't like making maps, it's something that I think I would do 1139 01:04:16,312 --> 01:04:20,062 Millbrook probably had a great influence on me in a way 1140 01:04:20,262 --> 01:04:23,389 I mean I was absolutely shocked rigid when I went to my prep school 1141 01:04:23,589 --> 01:04:26,197 and found people who thought of doing things wrong 1142 01:04:26,397 --> 01:04:29,936 I never really upset anyone or questioned authority 1143 01:04:30,136 --> 01:04:33,690 or misbehaved in any of my two later schools 1144 01:04:33,890 --> 01:04:40,842 which may seem an ideal thing but it's probably healthy to question why you have to do certain things 1145 01:04:41,042 --> 01:04:42,755 which I never did 1146 01:04:42,756 --> 01:04:47,997 Bruce was a border at this pre-preparatory school from the age of five 1147 01:04:48,197 --> 01:04:51,870 Squad left foot in one place 1148 01:04:52,294 --> 01:04:53,892 squad breathe in 1149 01:04:53,893 --> 01:04:57,037 Well it is mainly this lack of responsibility 1150 01:04:57,237 --> 01:04:58,637 for doing jobs given to me 1151 01:04:58,837 --> 01:05:01,864 people will say "why haven't you done this? Look you've upset us" 1152 01:05:02,064 --> 01:05:08,249 I was secretary of bridge society, chess society, cricket society 1153 01:05:08,449 --> 01:05:10,395 Scottish dancing society 1154 01:05:10,595 --> 01:05:14,474 and I didn't do anything for any of them, they were all very angry 1155 01:05:14,674 --> 01:05:18,706 and I spent last summer term in total seclusion 1156 01:05:18,906 --> 01:05:21,219 I saw maybe half a dozen people all term 1157 01:05:21,419 --> 01:05:23,964 in my room, darting across courts 1158 01:05:24,164 --> 01:05:29,192 people would say "I saw Balden today" and they'd say "No? really?" 1159 01:05:29,392 --> 01:05:31,017 it was awful really 1160 01:05:31,018 --> 01:05:36,630 My hearts desire is to see my daddy who is six thousand miles away 1161 01:05:36,830 --> 01:05:40,771 Y'know I've been getting on well with my step-father 1162 01:05:40,971 --> 01:05:43,784 and I like seeing my father occasionally 1163 01:05:43,984 --> 01:05:46,297 and he does come over from Rhodesia 1164 01:05:46,497 --> 01:05:53,359 What effect has the fact that you've seen very little of your father had on you? 1165 01:05:53,559 --> 01:05:56,426 Nothing really, I only something I regret that... 1166 01:05:56,626 --> 01:06:01,614 I didn't really get to know him better at all 1167 01:06:02,235 --> 01:06:06,580 We've written and we're both very bad writers, I'm probably worse than him 1168 01:06:06,780 --> 01:06:07,841 and eh... 1169 01:06:08,243 --> 01:06:13,610 that's something I regret is not having a just a regular correspondence 1170 01:06:13,810 --> 01:06:17,783 because I think he's an interesting man actually 1171 01:06:17,983 --> 01:06:19,472 and eh... 1172 01:06:20,222 --> 01:06:21,936 he probably regrets it as well 1173 01:06:22,136 --> 01:06:24,317 What do you think about your own upbringing? 1174 01:06:24,517 --> 01:06:28,938 What have been the strongest influences on that? 1175 01:06:29,138 --> 01:06:33,205 Probably to not let down my mother really 1176 01:06:33,405 --> 01:06:38,015 because she's worked awfully hard to get me through school 1177 01:06:38,215 --> 01:06:39,215 and 1178 01:06:39,693 --> 01:06:43,307 I haven't let her down yet 1179 01:06:45,066 --> 01:06:46,110 then.. 1180 01:06:46,111 --> 01:06:50,259 As far as...eh not having... 1181 01:06:50,459 --> 01:06:53,008 my mothers divorce 1182 01:06:53,009 --> 01:06:56,997 I don't think that really has the effect that people imagine it to have 1183 01:06:57,197 --> 01:07:01,695 I mean I always have got on well with my stepfather 1184 01:07:01,895 --> 01:07:07,307 and with my half-sister, so in that sense I've had a family life 1185 01:07:07,507 --> 01:07:11,803 I'd help people if I had a chance 1186 01:07:12,543 --> 01:07:17,393 Y'know by say giving a little bit of money to charity or sponsoring things 1187 01:07:17,593 --> 01:07:19,246 or things like that 1188 01:07:19,247 --> 01:07:22,617 Well I took nine months off 1189 01:07:22,817 --> 01:07:26,498 between school and university 1190 01:07:26,698 --> 01:07:32,727 and there I taught at a school and worked in the Banbury sewage works 1191 01:07:32,927 --> 01:07:35,231 two months 1192 01:07:35,618 --> 01:07:37,767 What sort of school was it? 1193 01:07:37,967 --> 01:07:41,129 Well I never like admitting this but it was a handicapped school 1194 01:07:41,329 --> 01:07:43,939 I mean 1195 01:07:43,940 --> 01:07:47,507 it seems to present me as wanting to do these things 1196 01:07:47,707 --> 01:07:49,243 I suppose in a way I do, and 1197 01:07:49,443 --> 01:07:54,091 I do get some satisfaction from doing it, but... 1198 01:07:54,291 --> 01:07:56,550 I could so easily have done something else 1199 01:07:56,750 --> 01:08:02,597 it was just almost an accident that I ended up at the spastic school 1200 01:08:02,797 --> 01:08:04,247 and eh... 1201 01:08:04,248 --> 01:08:06,089 I'm glad I did it because I enjoyed it 1202 01:08:06,289 --> 01:08:08,551 not for its... 1203 01:08:10,041 --> 01:08:13,888 I suppose slightly charitable nature of the work, but 1204 01:08:14,088 --> 01:08:17,717 the people I met, work, it was quite good 1205 01:08:17,917 --> 01:08:23,406 Why are you frightened of presenting this image of yourself 1206 01:08:26,835 --> 01:08:28,892 It's... 1207 01:08:30,367 --> 01:08:34,228 It's possibly because I 1208 01:08:34,428 --> 01:08:38,662 I don't know, I never want to feel to proud really 1209 01:08:40,064 --> 01:08:44,379 I mean it's dangerous for a start and it's so easy 1210 01:08:44,579 --> 01:08:45,579 and 1211 01:08:47,256 --> 01:08:51,114 it doesn't work in a way because I can try and pretend to be humble 1212 01:08:51,314 --> 01:08:55,959 that's being proud in just the same sort of way 1213 01:08:56,159 --> 01:08:58,838 I find it a very difficult thing to avoid, pride 1214 01:08:59,038 --> 01:09:02,660 Tell me, are you interested in politics at all? 1215 01:09:02,860 --> 01:09:06,185 Not as much as I was 1216 01:09:07,978 --> 01:09:12,707 I am about the only socialist in my village 1217 01:09:12,907 --> 01:09:16,344 and I go into the pub 1218 01:09:16,932 --> 01:09:21,770 and sort of expect to stand up and defend all socialist policies 1219 01:09:21,970 --> 01:09:24,208 sort of, this is the village socialist 1220 01:09:24,408 --> 01:09:27,813 no, village idiot, sorry 1221 01:09:28,013 --> 01:09:30,889 you agree with all this immigration so I stand up and defend it 1222 01:09:31,089 --> 01:09:36,208 and it's awfully hard work though I think I'm going to give that up 1223 01:09:36,408 --> 01:09:41,251 So where do you stand politically now then? 1224 01:09:41,451 --> 01:09:47,212 I'm still socialist but not as energetically as I was I suppose 1225 01:09:48,336 --> 01:09:52,896 What do you think about the way England's being run at the moment? 1226 01:09:56,107 --> 01:09:57,803 Well... 1227 01:10:01,664 --> 01:10:04,178 I'm glad the socialist's are in power because 1228 01:10:04,378 --> 01:10:09,970 This illusive thing called freedom is sort of rearing its head 1229 01:10:10,170 --> 01:10:12,903 and the conservatives are pushing it forward 1230 01:10:13,103 --> 01:10:17,765 and I thought this argument was smashed 1231 01:10:17,965 --> 01:10:20,716 at the early years of this century but it seems to be coming back 1232 01:10:20,916 --> 01:10:23,280 and it really is exceptionally dangerous because 1233 01:10:23,480 --> 01:10:26,344 the more you try and defend freedom 1234 01:10:26,544 --> 01:10:30,587 you allow everybody to do exactly what they like within limits 1235 01:10:30,787 --> 01:10:33,161 then the less you have 1236 01:10:33,361 --> 01:10:39,575 I mean there's no freedom in living in a slum 1237 01:10:39,775 --> 01:10:41,569 It's alright you can say the chap can do whatever he wants 1238 01:10:41,769 --> 01:10:44,381 he can get a better job or anything but that's just not the case 1239 01:10:44,581 --> 01:10:46,781 the more you defend freedom the less you have it 1240 01:10:46,981 --> 01:10:51,398 Well my girlfriend is in Africa 1241 01:10:51,598 --> 01:10:55,150 and I don't think I'll have another chance of seeing her again 1242 01:10:55,350 --> 01:10:56,490 Have you got any girlfriends? 1243 01:10:56,690 --> 01:10:58,917 No, not yet 1244 01:10:59,294 --> 01:11:02,232 I'm sure it will come, but not yet 1245 01:11:02,432 --> 01:11:06,251 What is your attitude to sex? 1246 01:11:06,602 --> 01:11:13,638 Well it's not quite, normal attitude to anti-sex 1247 01:11:19,685 --> 01:11:24,999 I mean I as it were burnt my fingers a little 1248 01:11:25,788 --> 01:11:30,913 I don't feel as though I'm missing anything now 1249 01:11:31,113 --> 01:11:34,846 I don't feel a need for it 1250 01:11:35,046 --> 01:11:40,645 and I'm quite happy at not feeling a need for it really 1251 01:11:42,158 --> 01:11:47,535 I mean I do think a lot of people think too much about it 1252 01:11:47,735 --> 01:11:51,234 What happened when you burnt your fingers? 1253 01:11:55,430 --> 01:11:59,169 I'd rather not talk about it really 1254 01:11:59,369 --> 01:12:01,154 well no in fact I don't really mean that 1255 01:12:01,354 --> 01:12:03,894 I don't mean I don't want to talk about it 1256 01:12:04,094 --> 01:12:07,700 it's just I'd need quite a long time to think about it really 1257 01:12:07,900 --> 01:12:09,213 Why? 1258 01:12:13,861 --> 01:12:19,020 Well in the end I decided the eh... 1259 01:12:19,763 --> 01:12:25,800 the effect, the pleasure, or... 1260 01:12:26,158 --> 01:12:28,312 just didn't seem worth it really 1261 01:12:28,512 --> 01:12:30,777 didn't seem worth... 1262 01:12:42,221 --> 01:12:43,719 See I think there's two different sorts 1263 01:12:43,919 --> 01:12:48,440 there's casual sex then there's sex in love and marriage 1264 01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,253 and 1265 01:12:52,639 --> 01:12:54,902 casual seks is not... 1266 01:12:55,102 --> 01:12:57,686 I don't think it's quite as widespread as people believed 1267 01:12:57,886 --> 01:12:59,732 because 1268 01:13:01,252 --> 01:13:06,431 if both the people treat it as casual sex then I think it's alright 1269 01:13:06,631 --> 01:13:08,403 but 1270 01:13:10,246 --> 01:13:12,714 if you're sort of looking for 1271 01:13:12,914 --> 01:13:15,337 I don't know this may seem awfully silly but 1272 01:13:15,537 --> 01:13:19,280 if you're looking for casual sex but don't want to treat it as such 1273 01:13:19,480 --> 01:13:25,447 then it doesn't seem to be worth the lies, I don't know the... 1274 01:13:25,647 --> 01:13:27,692 the sort of effort 1275 01:13:28,066 --> 01:13:31,920 - Is this what happened to you? - I suppose in a way yes 1276 01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:33,143 Have you been in love? 1277 01:13:33,343 --> 01:13:34,853 No, no 1278 01:13:36,170 --> 01:13:38,521 and eh... 1279 01:13:39,189 --> 01:13:41,423 I think I'll probably have to wait for that really 1280 01:13:41,623 --> 01:13:43,599 Play international wrestling 1281 01:13:43,799 --> 01:13:46,019 Yeah that's only at summertime though 1282 01:13:46,219 --> 01:13:49,811 Yeah summer we can go on the grass 1283 01:13:55,219 --> 01:13:58,094 Neil went to a comprehensive school in Liverpool 1284 01:13:58,294 --> 01:14:02,465 got four A-levels then walked out of Aberdeen university after one term 1285 01:14:02,665 --> 01:14:05,427 and is now doing casual labour in London 1286 01:14:05,627 --> 01:14:10,044 I came to London I think because I wanted to start a new life really 1287 01:14:10,244 --> 01:14:13,628 I'd left the university in Aberdeen 1288 01:14:13,828 --> 01:14:16,155 in the end of nineteen seventy-five 1289 01:14:16,355 --> 01:14:20,251 and I became conscious of the fact that I was drifting around 1290 01:14:20,451 --> 01:14:26,493 which I suppose I'm still doing here but at least I took the decision to move myself 1291 01:14:26,693 --> 01:14:33,082 and I think possibly there's more challenge in London than there ever could be in Aberdeen 1292 01:14:33,282 --> 01:14:35,474 Peter, Neil's school friend from Liverpool 1293 01:14:35,674 --> 01:14:39,532 is now in his last year at London university, reading history 1294 01:14:39,732 --> 01:14:42,991 It was obviously a big step 1295 01:14:43,191 --> 01:14:46,804 it was exciting more than anything, I mean that sounds corny but it was 1296 01:14:47,004 --> 01:14:48,778 Do you remember the day you left Liverpool? 1297 01:14:48,978 --> 01:14:50,544 Yeah very well 1298 01:14:50,851 --> 01:14:53,542 It was pouring down with rain, I remember that 1299 01:14:53,742 --> 01:14:57,946 just had the traditional send of from the train station, my mum and dad were there 1300 01:14:58,146 --> 01:15:02,383 a couple of mates turned up at the last minute, from the school to see me 1301 01:15:02,583 --> 01:15:05,417 - Catch a girl and kiss a girl - Yeah 1302 01:15:05,617 --> 01:15:06,818 and what happens then? 1303 01:15:07,018 --> 01:15:10,477 - Well the girls are all screaming - Yeah 1304 01:15:10,677 --> 01:15:14,115 and then we catch them we kiss them 1305 01:15:14,315 --> 01:15:16,861 We're interested in contrast with you and Neil 1306 01:15:17,061 --> 01:15:22,141 were you aware of differences in home background at the time? 1307 01:15:22,341 --> 01:15:26,977 Oh sure yeah, I mean both Neil's parents are teachers as you know 1308 01:15:27,177 --> 01:15:30,000 that's got to be a hell of a difference for a start 1309 01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:33,284 I mean, I'm not knocking them for a minute, they're very nice people 1310 01:15:33,484 --> 01:15:34,750 but eh... 1311 01:15:34,751 --> 01:15:40,610 there's obviously going to be some sort of academic type atmosphere in the house 1312 01:15:40,810 --> 01:15:44,966 which I did notice one or two times 1313 01:15:45,166 --> 01:15:46,671 but I think Neil 1314 01:15:46,968 --> 01:15:51,155 whether by design or just by the situation he was in 1315 01:15:51,355 --> 01:15:54,234 was obviously going to be under more pressure 1316 01:15:54,434 --> 01:16:00,116 I came to London and I contacted an agency for squatters 1317 01:16:00,316 --> 01:16:04,199 and they were able to give me the address of somebody 1318 01:16:04,399 --> 01:16:09,641 who was able to help people who were looking for accommodation in the London area 1319 01:16:09,841 --> 01:16:12,512 and by a process of chasing people around 1320 01:16:12,712 --> 01:16:16,511 I eventually managed to find this place here 1321 01:16:16,711 --> 01:16:22,371 I wouldn't squat in a place which I knew to be owned by somebody else 1322 01:16:22,571 --> 01:16:26,383 I wouldn't, certainly because I knew if I had a place of my own 1323 01:16:26,583 --> 01:16:28,735 and found somebody squatting in it I'd be disgusted 1324 01:16:28,935 --> 01:16:31,277 But this place was empty 1325 01:16:31,477 --> 01:16:35,317 and I was simply offered a place to live here and was very grateful for it 1326 01:16:35,517 --> 01:16:38,608 and I think in questions of squatting 1327 01:16:38,808 --> 01:16:46,294 a bit of humanity is more important that vain rules about who can live where 1328 01:16:52,747 --> 01:16:55,291 In contrast, Peter lives in a flat in North London 1329 01:16:55,491 --> 01:16:56,998 sharing with three other students 1330 01:16:57,198 --> 01:16:59,979 there have been three guys living here originally 1331 01:17:00,179 --> 01:17:01,828 and one of them left 1332 01:17:02,068 --> 01:17:05,100 to get engaged, virtually married 1333 01:17:05,300 --> 01:17:09,047 and the flat was meant for four in the first place 1334 01:17:09,247 --> 01:17:12,050 so Dave and Trev asked Ian and I if we'd like to move in 1335 01:17:12,250 --> 01:17:15,806 because we did 'cause we'd been searching for a flat for some months 1336 01:17:16,006 --> 01:17:19,870 so we jumped at the opportunity really 1337 01:17:20,234 --> 01:17:23,965 I've got my own room, I can cook whenever I like 1338 01:17:24,165 --> 01:17:26,852 I haven't got a landlady to tell me what time to come in 1339 01:17:27,052 --> 01:17:30,499 I've got my own front door key 1340 01:17:31,405 --> 01:17:34,347 and to tell the truth it's a lot better than a lot of the accommodation I've had 1341 01:17:34,547 --> 01:17:37,183 over the last eighteen months or so 1342 01:17:37,383 --> 01:17:40,190 it could be a bit warmer, it's a bit chilly 1343 01:17:40,390 --> 01:17:42,021 but eh... 1344 01:17:43,425 --> 01:17:47,908 it's perfectly satisfactory for the time being 1345 01:18:00,402 --> 01:18:02,380 These are obvious restrictions, y'know 1346 01:18:02,580 --> 01:18:04,089 not able to cook for yourself 1347 01:18:04,289 --> 01:18:05,905 you've got to think for yourself a lot more 1348 01:18:06,105 --> 01:18:08,243 but it's eh... 1349 01:18:08,908 --> 01:18:12,149 certainly not as exhausting or wearing as I thought it would be 1350 01:18:12,349 --> 01:18:13,718 I mean, y'know... 1351 01:18:13,719 --> 01:18:15,933 coming up myself is a challenge of some sort 1352 01:18:16,133 --> 01:18:18,990 we're going to have to split two sausages into three now 1353 01:18:19,190 --> 01:18:25,875 Well once Caroline Tetford said she loved me 1354 01:18:26,705 --> 01:18:30,623 and I'm going to marry her when I grow up 1355 01:18:30,823 --> 01:18:34,710 I hate her, she's always getting bad tempered and cross with me 1356 01:18:34,910 --> 01:18:35,815 - Does she? - Yeah 1357 01:18:35,816 --> 01:18:38,673 She says "Neil Hughes, move your desk forward" 1358 01:18:38,873 --> 01:18:42,373 and when I put it back she says "Neil Hughes put your chair forward" 1359 01:18:42,573 --> 01:18:45,980 and she just gets into a girly mood with me like that 1360 01:18:46,180 --> 01:18:50,577 Tell me about the period in your life when you went to university and what happened 1361 01:18:50,777 --> 01:18:51,846 It was a very short period 1362 01:18:52,046 --> 01:18:52,787 I was only at university... 1363 01:18:52,987 --> 01:18:58,976 well I was only taking university seriously for a matter of two or three months 1364 01:18:59,234 --> 01:19:03,531 maybe I went to the wrong university or maybe university life didn't suit me 1365 01:19:03,731 --> 01:19:04,771 either way 1366 01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:09,867 I felt a very great need to get out of the system 1367 01:19:10,067 --> 01:19:13,594 Well this is my final year so I'm not in college that much 1368 01:19:13,794 --> 01:19:15,165 I don't have to be 1369 01:19:15,361 --> 01:19:18,343 so what I'm expected to do is to be... 1370 01:19:18,543 --> 01:19:21,472 laying out revision timetables at home and.. 1371 01:19:21,672 --> 01:19:23,102 Working like a slave 1372 01:19:23,353 --> 01:19:25,849 which I'm not at the moment, but I will be soon 1373 01:19:26,049 --> 01:19:28,341 I did make an application to Oxford 1374 01:19:28,541 --> 01:19:29,859 but I didn't get in 1375 01:19:29,860 --> 01:19:30,844 and eh 1376 01:19:30,845 --> 01:19:33,316 well I think that's in the past now and that's... 1377 01:19:33,516 --> 01:19:38,158 I don't know whether I would've been any happier at Oxford 1378 01:19:38,392 --> 01:19:40,408 it always had been a dream to get into Oxford 1379 01:19:40,608 --> 01:19:42,535 I think being as people had encouraged me 1380 01:19:42,735 --> 01:19:46,901 because I knew famous people having been to Oxford 1381 01:19:47,101 --> 01:19:49,564 I'd read memoirs written by famous people 1382 01:19:49,764 --> 01:19:55,812 things such as Brideshead's Revisited which was a great favourite 1383 01:19:56,012 --> 01:19:58,410 but these I suppose are 1384 01:19:58,610 --> 01:20:03,458 well they were dreams which I had while I was at school and 1385 01:20:03,658 --> 01:20:06,794 I have to just get over the fact that I didn't get into Oxford 1386 01:20:06,994 --> 01:20:10,755 probably because I didn't approach the thing in the right way 1387 01:20:10,955 --> 01:20:12,166 Are you bitter about it? 1388 01:20:12,366 --> 01:20:14,608 I was very bitter at the time 1389 01:20:14,808 --> 01:20:18,311 maybe I still am but I try to get over it 1390 01:20:18,511 --> 01:20:23,683 I think once I can get myself going I can work solid, yeah 1391 01:20:23,883 --> 01:20:25,398 but it's the motive 1392 01:20:25,399 --> 01:20:30,293 which is very hard to acquire when you're in the flat most of the time 1393 01:20:30,518 --> 01:20:34,638 it's hard to sort of look ahead to next June and think of those exams 1394 01:20:34,838 --> 01:20:37,942 but I dare say I'll do it, get the average type degree and... 1395 01:20:38,142 --> 01:20:39,815 I'm not worried 1396 01:20:40,505 --> 01:20:44,712 Is it a problem to you motivating yourself generally? 1397 01:20:44,912 --> 01:20:46,586 Yeah it can be 1398 01:20:46,587 --> 01:20:50,130 I can look back on the day and think "how I wasted that" 1399 01:20:50,330 --> 01:20:52,435 although I must've enjoyed it at the time 1400 01:20:52,635 --> 01:20:56,342 What sort of influence did your parents have on you? 1401 01:20:56,542 --> 01:20:59,386 Well they made me believe in god from the start 1402 01:20:59,586 --> 01:21:01,977 which I certainly wouldn't 1403 01:21:02,177 --> 01:21:05,005 or I don't know even now whether I believe in god or not 1404 01:21:05,205 --> 01:21:07,578 I've thought an awful lot about it actually and 1405 01:21:07,778 --> 01:21:09,336 I still don't know 1406 01:21:09,625 --> 01:21:11,199 but still this was the absolutely certain one 1407 01:21:11,399 --> 01:21:14,214 if one was to survive in the world one had to believe in god 1408 01:21:14,414 --> 01:21:17,823 this was something which was taught to me 1409 01:21:18,023 --> 01:21:20,860 always think of other people first before yourself 1410 01:21:21,060 --> 01:21:24,021 to a ridiculous neurotic degree 1411 01:21:24,221 --> 01:21:27,805 which I think affected me 1412 01:21:28,466 --> 01:21:30,009 What do you mean by that? 1413 01:21:30,209 --> 01:21:34,097 Well this I suppose is basic christianity 1414 01:21:34,297 --> 01:21:35,481 it's sort of... 1415 01:21:36,772 --> 01:21:39,841 if somebody slaps you on one cheek let them do it on the other 1416 01:21:40,041 --> 01:21:43,502 almost literally taken 1417 01:21:43,702 --> 01:21:48,134 which gave me a few shocks when I tried to put it into practise 1418 01:21:48,334 --> 01:21:50,002 - In what way? - I don't think to be honest 1419 01:21:50,202 --> 01:21:52,087 to go back to that question I don't think 1420 01:21:52,287 --> 01:21:56,028 I was really taught any sort of policy of living at all by my parents 1421 01:21:56,228 --> 01:21:57,933 this was probably their biggest mistake 1422 01:21:58,133 --> 01:22:00,022 that I was just left to fend for myself 1423 01:22:00,222 --> 01:22:03,256 in a world which they seemed completely oblivious of 1424 01:22:03,456 --> 01:22:08,390 and I found even when I tried to discuss problems which were facing me in school 1425 01:22:08,590 --> 01:22:11,688 my parents didn't seem to be aware of the nature of the problem 1426 01:22:11,888 --> 01:22:15,139 Were they ambitious for you? 1427 01:22:15,725 --> 01:22:18,448 Yeah but along set lines which they had planned 1428 01:22:18,648 --> 01:22:20,943 I think they have often said to me that they 1429 01:22:21,143 --> 01:22:24,663 they had seen me even from when I was very young in a certain type of career 1430 01:22:24,863 --> 01:22:31,016 and possibly they'd never even thought that anything else was vaguely possible 1431 01:22:31,216 --> 01:22:33,689 they probably imagined I would be 1432 01:22:33,889 --> 01:22:37,738 maybe a university lecturer or 1433 01:22:37,938 --> 01:22:41,356 a bank manager or something like this 1434 01:22:41,556 --> 01:22:43,713 some kind of indoor work 1435 01:22:43,913 --> 01:22:48,161 which involved writing and reading and this sort of thing 1436 01:22:48,361 --> 01:22:52,447 because they didn't take account of the other side of my personality 1437 01:22:52,647 --> 01:22:54,007 but 1438 01:22:58,906 --> 01:23:05,095 I wonder how many parents really think of their children as individual human beings 1439 01:23:05,295 --> 01:23:09,785 What are your feelings about them now? Your parents 1440 01:23:09,985 --> 01:23:12,264 I'm glad they're there because if I ever become homeless again 1441 01:23:12,464 --> 01:23:13,934 I will be able to go back and live with them 1442 01:23:14,134 --> 01:23:17,422 they wouldn't object to this 1443 01:23:18,519 --> 01:23:21,858 I'm capable of getting on with my parents perfectly well 1444 01:23:22,058 --> 01:23:30,214 If they are willing to let me live as another adult in their house 1445 01:23:30,414 --> 01:23:33,261 and appreciate that I'm living my own way of life 1446 01:23:33,461 --> 01:23:38,540 and that I am living there because I can't think of anything else to do with myself 1447 01:23:40,162 --> 01:23:44,235 What do they think of what you're doing now? 1448 01:23:44,435 --> 01:23:49,275 They accept it, I think now they do accept that I'm the person I am 1449 01:23:49,507 --> 01:23:57,177 they see this as simply my attempting to add more experience to my life 1450 01:23:57,377 --> 01:24:00,189 which satisfies me 1451 01:24:00,190 --> 01:24:02,996 Are they worried about you? 1452 01:24:03,196 --> 01:24:04,920 Probably yes 1453 01:24:08,755 --> 01:24:13,393 but no more worried now than they were when I first left for university 1454 01:24:13,593 --> 01:24:17,520 that was probably the time at which they were most worried 1455 01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:23,092 and we have in fact managed to discuss a lot of personal things 1456 01:24:23,292 --> 01:24:26,826 which I felt at one time I'd never be able to discuss 1457 01:24:27,026 --> 01:24:28,665 and therefore, as I say 1458 01:24:28,865 --> 01:24:32,489 it is possible for me to live for a few weeks even a month or so at home 1459 01:24:32,689 --> 01:24:37,637 without there being to much friction 1460 01:24:37,837 --> 01:24:41,229 So are you under pressure to get a job 1461 01:24:41,429 --> 01:24:44,568 to think of what you're going to do when you leave in June 1462 01:24:44,768 --> 01:24:48,173 Yeah I suspect I am from my parents, they keep dropping hints 1463 01:24:48,373 --> 01:24:50,846 which is only fair I can understand their feelings 1464 01:24:51,046 --> 01:24:52,322 obviously I've got to get a job 1465 01:24:52,522 --> 01:24:54,892 I don't want to laze around on the dole for months and months 1466 01:24:55,092 --> 01:24:56,690 you'd go mad 1467 01:24:57,815 --> 01:25:02,451 I just can't see what I'll be doing in nine, ten months time though 1468 01:25:02,651 --> 01:25:05,227 Does that depress you or does that excite you? 1469 01:25:05,427 --> 01:25:08,481 No it certainly doesn't depress me 1470 01:25:08,681 --> 01:25:11,788 perhaps it does excite me in a way yes 1471 01:25:11,988 --> 01:25:15,564 something will turn up, something of that nature y'know 1472 01:25:15,764 --> 01:25:21,398 but obviously you've got to think realistically about doing something 1473 01:25:21,598 --> 01:25:26,119 I mean I might be living in cloud cuckoo land y'know 1474 01:25:26,319 --> 01:25:29,448 my mum and dad might say "no son" 1475 01:25:29,648 --> 01:25:32,245 "you don't get a job you like" 1476 01:25:32,445 --> 01:25:33,606 I'd like to think I could 1477 01:25:33,806 --> 01:25:36,979 Well, we pretend we've got swords 1478 01:25:37,179 --> 01:25:39,701 we make the noises of the swords fighting 1479 01:25:39,901 --> 01:25:42,695 and when somebody stabs us we go "Arrrrrgghhh!" 1480 01:25:42,895 --> 01:25:46,679 What goes through your mind when you saw those two films 1481 01:25:46,879 --> 01:25:50,709 when you were at seven, bright and perky? 1482 01:25:50,909 --> 01:25:55,001 I find it hard to believe that I was ever like that but there's the evidence 1483 01:25:55,201 --> 01:25:56,650 I wonder why I was like that 1484 01:25:56,850 --> 01:26:01,868 I wonder what it was inside me that made me like that 1485 01:26:02,295 --> 01:26:05,601 and I can see even at fourteen and I was beginning to get more subdued 1486 01:26:05,801 --> 01:26:08,037 and I was putting a lot more thought into what I was saying 1487 01:26:08,237 --> 01:26:12,016 too a ridiculous degree 1488 01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:16,430 and probably when I was seven I just... I don't know 1489 01:26:16,630 --> 01:26:20,249 I lived in a wonderful world where everything was sensation dumb 1490 01:26:20,449 --> 01:26:22,622 I could be happy like this I could be miserable the next minute 1491 01:26:22,822 --> 01:26:24,469 and I didn't have to plan for the future 1492 01:26:24,669 --> 01:26:27,642 I didn't have to worry about having friends and all this money 1493 01:26:27,842 --> 01:26:31,717 because everything was so mapped out for me 1494 01:26:31,917 --> 01:26:36,396 I don't know what sort of stumbling blocks should be put in a child's way 1495 01:26:36,596 --> 01:26:40,903 to get him used to living in the outside world 1496 01:26:41,103 --> 01:26:44,598 because I think maybe this is something that was wrong in my upbringing 1497 01:26:44,798 --> 01:26:50,049 I didn't have enough obstacles to get over, to toughen myself up against 1498 01:26:50,249 --> 01:26:52,496 I was unprepared for things as they were 1499 01:26:52,696 --> 01:26:56,840 but looking back now I couldn't think of what might have been done 1500 01:26:57,040 --> 01:27:00,900 and I certainly wouldn't start writing educational theory about this 1501 01:27:01,100 --> 01:27:02,719 because I know how personal a thing it is 1502 01:27:02,919 --> 01:27:06,582 and it probably wouldn't work in anybody else's case 1503 01:27:06,782 --> 01:27:09,535 Would you like to be seven again? 1504 01:27:09,735 --> 01:27:12,448 No because I'd know that I had to be twenty-one again 1505 01:27:12,648 --> 01:27:15,155 I moved up to a comprehensive school 1506 01:27:15,355 --> 01:27:17,139 I found it much bigger of course 1507 01:27:17,339 --> 01:27:19,544 I found it hard to settle into at first 1508 01:27:19,744 --> 01:27:23,226 but now I've been here a few years I know my way around 1509 01:27:23,426 --> 01:27:25,882 I think it's a very good idea to have competition 1510 01:27:26,082 --> 01:27:30,191 otherwise you might start to relax and not try hard enough 1511 01:27:30,391 --> 01:27:35,522 Yes at that age I was very conscious of having to struggle 1512 01:27:35,722 --> 01:27:37,941 because I suppose of what parents and teachers were saying 1513 01:27:38,141 --> 01:27:39,069 they were saying 1514 01:27:39,070 --> 01:27:44,833 they said "you've got a brain you must put all your effort into school work" 1515 01:27:46,177 --> 01:27:47,714 well what else could they have said? 1516 01:27:47,914 --> 01:27:50,357 I would've probably been just as angry, looking back 1517 01:27:50,557 --> 01:27:54,086 if they'd never encouraged my intellectual efforts at all 1518 01:27:54,286 --> 01:27:58,218 When I get married I don't want to have any children 1519 01:27:58,418 --> 01:27:59,491 because 1520 01:27:59,492 --> 01:28:02,071 they are always doing naughty things 1521 01:28:02,271 --> 01:28:04,973 and making the whole house untidy 1522 01:28:05,173 --> 01:28:09,534 Do you have any great ambition, any dream? 1523 01:28:11,685 --> 01:28:13,111 I suppose I... 1524 01:28:13,405 --> 01:28:14,714 yes well... 1525 01:28:14,715 --> 01:28:19,726 I would like to be someone in a position of importance and I've always thought this 1526 01:28:19,926 --> 01:28:23,549 but I don't think I'm the right sort of person to carry the responsibility for whatever it is 1527 01:28:23,749 --> 01:28:27,094 I've always thought well I'd love to be 1528 01:28:27,294 --> 01:28:30,405 possibly even love to be in politics 1529 01:28:30,605 --> 01:28:31,874 Something like this 1530 01:28:31,875 --> 01:28:32,976 but eh... 1531 01:28:33,572 --> 01:28:39,717 I suppose that I'd probably find just as tedious as all the other jobs I've done so... 1532 01:28:39,917 --> 01:28:43,963 What do you want out of life? 1533 01:28:47,344 --> 01:28:50,696 The satisfaction of knowing 1534 01:28:50,896 --> 01:28:54,729 that I've left some sort of imprint 1535 01:28:54,929 --> 01:28:58,886 rather than just lived out my life 1536 01:28:59,086 --> 01:29:00,879 I don't know... 1537 01:29:01,511 --> 01:29:06,578 it's going to sound like an epitaph I've left in memory of some people y'know 1538 01:29:06,778 --> 01:29:12,889 not that this guy worked, made a fair bit of money, good house, died 1539 01:29:13,089 --> 01:29:15,387 I'd like to have done something but... 1540 01:29:15,587 --> 01:29:18,290 then again it must be a drop in the ocean I suppose 1541 01:29:18,490 --> 01:29:20,963 I mean who is going to remember me in a hundred years time? 1542 01:29:21,163 --> 01:29:24,744 So is it that important, how you live out your life? 1543 01:29:24,944 --> 01:29:27,883 But I would like to think I'm going to do something with it 1544 01:29:28,083 --> 01:29:30,124 something positive 1545 01:29:30,125 --> 01:29:32,231 Do you and Peter have the same values? 1546 01:29:32,431 --> 01:29:35,624 I think we both value happiness and stability 1547 01:29:35,824 --> 01:29:39,124 I think most people do 1548 01:29:40,571 --> 01:29:43,782 But you've kicked against the stability that's.. 1549 01:29:43,982 --> 01:29:48,783 I don't think I ever had any stability, to be quite honest 1550 01:29:48,983 --> 01:29:51,576 I can't think of any time in my life when I ever did 1551 01:29:51,776 --> 01:29:53,763 I don't think I've been kicking against anything 1552 01:29:53,963 --> 01:29:58,582 I think I've been kicking in mid-air the whole of my life 1553 01:30:11,673 --> 01:30:13,249 It's only one more 1554 01:30:22,642 --> 01:30:24,947 What do they think about each other? 1555 01:30:25,147 --> 01:30:27,292 And how would they act together? 1556 01:30:27,492 --> 01:30:31,930 To find out we invited them all to one big party and joined in 1557 01:30:32,130 --> 01:30:34,462 ♪If I say that I love you♪ 1558 01:30:34,662 --> 01:30:36,909 ♪And you know it's true♪ 1559 01:30:37,109 --> 01:30:39,516 ♪If you said that you'd leave me♪ 1560 01:30:39,716 --> 01:30:43,297 ♪What would I do?♪ 1561 01:30:43,497 --> 01:30:47,844 ♪I'll let you back if you let me♪ 1562 01:30:48,044 --> 01:30:54,702 ♪I'll change your mind...♪ 1563 01:30:55,413 --> 01:30:58,736 Yes but they were a bit too tough for my liking 1564 01:30:58,936 --> 01:31:02,948 so they hit me right in the back and I've still got a pain there 1565 01:31:03,148 --> 01:31:07,577 The posh ones, "Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes!" 1566 01:31:07,777 --> 01:31:09,922 they're nuts 1567 01:31:09,923 --> 01:31:12,558 you just have to touch them 1568 01:31:12,758 --> 01:31:17,428 Well some of them were rather dirty 1569 01:31:17,628 --> 01:31:21,286 - What do you think about them? - I played with them quite naturally 1570 01:31:21,486 --> 01:31:23,738 I think they were rather nice really 1571 01:31:23,938 --> 01:31:26,143 What do you think about rich people? 1572 01:31:26,343 --> 01:31:30,157 Well... not much 1573 01:31:30,962 --> 01:31:31,925 Tell me about them 1574 01:31:31,926 --> 01:31:35,901 Well they think they can do everything without you doing it as well 1575 01:31:36,101 --> 01:31:43,935 and they think just because they're rich they have to have people to do all their work 1576 01:31:44,135 --> 01:31:48,635 What would you do if you had lots of money, about two pounds? 1577 01:31:48,835 --> 01:31:51,674 Me? I would help the poor 1578 01:31:51,874 --> 01:31:53,069 What for? 1579 01:31:53,070 --> 01:31:57,498 The poor, if you don't help them they die soon wouldn't they 1580 01:31:57,698 --> 01:32:03,375 and every time we have a harvest festival we send food to them 1581 01:32:03,575 --> 01:32:06,115 and once these two...no 1582 01:32:06,315 --> 01:32:10,539 Susan and Janet Simpson went round giving it out with Mr Floyd 1583 01:32:10,739 --> 01:32:13,038 - I don't think much of the accents - Neither do I 1584 01:32:13,238 --> 01:32:14,915 Neither do I 1585 01:32:15,086 --> 01:32:17,440 it won't prevent me liking them 1586 01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:18,615 Don't you ever think to yourself - 1587 01:32:18,815 --> 01:32:20,722 Jump out of that suit, come to the Eastend 1588 01:32:20,922 --> 01:32:23,484 throw the books in the corner and do what you have to do 1589 01:32:23,684 --> 01:32:26,023 - I'd certainly throw the books in the corner - Do you understand what I'm trying to say? 1590 01:32:26,223 --> 01:32:26,872 Yeah 1591 01:32:26,873 --> 01:32:30,086 - What are you going to do in life? - I've really no idea 1592 01:32:30,286 --> 01:32:35,258 The idea of just living somewhere and working for a living is just horrifying really 1593 01:32:35,458 --> 01:32:37,834 I mean, being a student is very easy 1594 01:32:38,034 --> 01:32:40,722 I just postponed the decision by going to university 1595 01:32:40,922 --> 01:32:44,025 I wouldn't say being a student's easy, that's why I left school 1596 01:32:44,225 --> 01:32:46,327 - It was too hard - Really 1597 01:32:46,527 --> 01:32:50,004 Who is to say what a seven year old child is? 1598 01:32:50,204 --> 01:32:54,061 I don't think there's anyway you can do it so a seven year old child could seem to be one thing 1599 01:32:54,261 --> 01:32:59,485 and you could always argue that the end product was produced by what he actually was 1600 01:32:59,685 --> 01:33:01,562 rather than what he seemed to be 1601 01:33:01,762 --> 01:33:04,820 - you'd normally use the total... - Not a bookmaker but a... 1602 01:33:05,020 --> 01:33:07,373 - I'm always frightened they'd clear off - What? 1603 01:33:07,573 --> 01:33:10,028 I'm always frightened they'd clear off if they had a bad afternoon 1604 01:33:10,228 --> 01:33:12,157 No they're not like that, they can always get hold of money 1605 01:33:12,357 --> 01:33:14,994 What fears do you have for the future? 1606 01:33:15,194 --> 01:33:17,564 Well certainly the idea of, as I was saying before 1607 01:33:17,764 --> 01:33:21,489 getting into a job and simply getting stuck in it and that's it 1608 01:33:21,689 --> 01:33:24,500 without knowing why you're doing it 1609 01:33:24,700 --> 01:33:29,569 but I would think now that this is the time where I would think about something like that 1610 01:33:29,769 --> 01:33:31,130 and make sure it doesn't happen 1611 01:33:31,330 --> 01:33:34,181 I really don't see how one's life can be a failure 1612 01:33:34,381 --> 01:33:35,481 in that... 1613 01:33:35,482 --> 01:33:39,017 if I became a journalist and got sacked at thirty 1614 01:33:39,217 --> 01:33:42,347 probably because I had grown out of it or I had changed so I was no longer suitable 1615 01:33:42,547 --> 01:33:48,141 therefore I'd find something else which I enjoyed 1616 01:33:48,341 --> 01:33:49,825 and which my talents were suited to 1617 01:33:50,025 --> 01:33:54,360 No I have never suffered at all 1618 01:33:54,560 --> 01:34:02,205 never been driven to despair or tears or... 1619 01:34:03,380 --> 01:34:05,122 I don't know, have any of the others? 1620 01:34:05,322 --> 01:34:08,325 My strength is being able to keep going really 1621 01:34:08,525 --> 01:34:12,980 and my weakness is not being able to take any positive course of action 1622 01:34:13,180 --> 01:34:18,327 I suppose I tend to behave in the fashion of the people that I'm with 1623 01:34:18,527 --> 01:34:21,744 in some circumstances I think that can be quite a weakness sometimes 1624 01:34:21,944 --> 01:34:24,500 sometimes wish I didn't 1625 01:34:24,700 --> 01:34:31,358 occasionally look at myself and think "christ you're a bloody fool, what are you doing now?" 1626 01:34:31,558 --> 01:34:33,381 and that sometimes disturbs me 1627 01:34:33,581 --> 01:34:35,662 We had a teacher at school 1628 01:34:35,862 --> 01:34:39,144 that his favourite ploy was... 1629 01:34:39,344 --> 01:34:43,193 "All you girls want to do is walk out, get married, have babies 1630 01:34:43,393 --> 01:34:48,309 and push a pram down the road with a cigarette hanging out the side of your mouth" 1631 01:34:48,509 --> 01:34:52,097 god if there was ever a sentence I'd resent it would be that one - yeah 1632 01:34:52,297 --> 01:34:55,183 There's only one ambition really I want a baby son 1633 01:34:55,383 --> 01:34:58,065 if I see my baby son that'll be my ambition fulfilled 1634 01:34:58,265 --> 01:35:00,597 no one knows that, only you now! 1635 01:35:00,797 --> 01:35:04,687 Well to me it is a dream to be totally happy 1636 01:35:04,887 --> 01:35:09,325 I mean, I don't think you can expect that but... 1637 01:35:10,294 --> 01:35:15,306 What happens if you don't make that? If you don't ever find it? How will you cope? 1638 01:35:15,506 --> 01:35:19,258 I don't know, it would be hard to say 1639 01:35:19,458 --> 01:35:23,850 the human minds very strong and it can be very weak 1640 01:35:24,050 --> 01:35:27,812 and so you could crack up from it and you could just 1641 01:35:28,012 --> 01:35:33,048 live your life out from day to day and you could get over it I think 1642 01:35:33,248 --> 01:35:37,450 well not get over it but you'd sort of cope with it I think 1643 01:35:37,650 --> 01:35:41,774 but what I'd do I just don't know 1644 01:35:43,045 --> 01:35:47,783 I mean I want to be happy and my dreams are all for happiness 1645 01:35:47,983 --> 01:35:49,974 but basically that's what I want out of life 1646 01:35:50,174 --> 01:35:54,886 I always leave something inside me, I always leave a bit behind 1647 01:35:55,086 --> 01:35:59,985 I always hold back a bit with everything I do 1648 01:36:01,873 --> 01:36:05,223 just to sort of...something to fall back on 1649 01:36:05,423 --> 01:36:10,663 I've always got something else to look on if anything goes wrong anywhere 1650 01:36:10,863 --> 01:36:14,050 What is that something you hold back? 1651 01:36:14,250 --> 01:36:16,450 I think it's a part of my heart 1652 01:36:16,650 --> 01:36:20,147 What do you want most out of life? 1653 01:36:20,347 --> 01:36:23,782 To be happy and get on with life 1654 01:36:23,982 --> 01:36:29,866 you don't want to just sit back and let it always pass 1655 01:36:30,066 --> 01:36:31,829 you could be run over by a bus tomorrow 1656 01:36:32,029 --> 01:36:33,849 so you've got to make the most of it while you've got it 1657 01:36:34,049 --> 01:36:37,821 Simply to be able to wake up in the morning and feel that 1658 01:36:38,021 --> 01:36:41,950 this day was going to be worthwhile 1659 01:36:42,812 --> 01:36:47,311 which is what I don't feel at the moment 1660 01:36:58,596 --> 01:37:01,490 At the end of their very special day in London 1661 01:37:01,690 --> 01:37:04,751 after their trip to the zoo and the party 1662 01:37:04,951 --> 01:37:07,801 we took our children to an adventure playground 1663 01:37:08,001 --> 01:37:11,770 where they could do just what they liked 1664 01:37:12,607 --> 01:37:16,475 those from a children's home set about building a house 1665 01:37:16,675 --> 01:37:20,821 The houses in Australia, the average sort of living there will do me fine 1666 01:37:21,021 --> 01:37:22,318 I mean it's terrific 1667 01:37:22,319 --> 01:37:26,190 I often say I'm saving to settle down with Yvonne 1668 01:37:26,390 --> 01:37:31,530 and then I think to myself "nah I might buy a car instead" 1669 01:37:37,011 --> 01:37:38,636 There's Nicholas 1670 01:37:38,637 --> 01:37:41,538 You have to run fast to stay where you are 1671 01:37:41,738 --> 01:37:46,393 to go forward you have to run very fast indeed, or whatever the quote is 1672 01:37:46,593 --> 01:37:51,695 so I'll probably feel I'm actually achieving nothing 1673 01:37:51,895 --> 01:37:53,474 and Tony 1674 01:37:56,393 --> 01:37:59,598 I don't want to change because if I change 1675 01:37:59,798 --> 01:38:04,579 it proves the other Tony Walker was all fake 1676 01:38:04,931 --> 01:38:05,993 Andrew 1677 01:38:06,552 --> 01:38:12,096 After I've qualified as a Solicitor I'll have to rethink 1678 01:38:12,296 --> 01:38:14,531 I don't know at all what will happen after that 1679 01:38:14,731 --> 01:38:16,120 and Bruce 1680 01:38:19,268 --> 01:38:23,398 It all springs from... 1681 01:38:23,598 --> 01:38:27,145 loving god and christ I suppose 1682 01:38:27,345 --> 01:38:33,199 you try and do that as best as possible and that leads your actions in life 1683 01:38:33,792 --> 01:38:35,158 John 1684 01:38:35,181 --> 01:38:41,124 I'd quite like to go into politics but that's easier said than done 1685 01:38:42,266 --> 01:38:43,433 Susie 1686 01:38:44,420 --> 01:38:47,112 When you're a child you always think how nice it would be to be grown up 1687 01:38:47,312 --> 01:38:49,239 and independent and things 1688 01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:52,742 but there are times when I wish I was three again 1689 01:38:52,942 --> 01:38:57,045 Jackie and her friends 1690 01:39:01,130 --> 01:39:03,648 give me a child until he is seven 1691 01:39:03,848 --> 01:39:08,042 and I will give you the man 1692 01:39:14,911 --> 01:39:20,095 this has been a glimpse of Britain's future 143980

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