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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:02:23,185 --> 00:02:24,847 You have the autopsy report. 2 00:02:26,063 --> 00:02:27,599 I don't need to go over that. 3 00:02:30,484 --> 00:02:33,818 Blunt force trauma and a cervical fracture. 4 00:02:36,573 --> 00:02:39,907 Somebody broke his neck. Brought him to that cave. 5 00:02:42,537 --> 00:02:43,869 Folded his hands, I guess. 6 00:02:47,125 --> 00:02:48,125 Alan. 7 00:02:49,044 --> 00:02:51,036 Talk to me about Oklahoma. You have to, man. 8 00:02:51,129 --> 00:02:54,213 - Wayne, this isn't the time... - How many sets of prints were taken? 9 00:02:55,384 --> 00:02:57,704 Do they know she was one of the robbers and not a customer? 10 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,120 If they found her, you wouldn't even be talking to me, right? 11 00:03:01,264 --> 00:03:02,596 Do they have video surveillance? 12 00:03:02,683 --> 00:03:04,424 Mr. Hays, the purpose of this deposition 13 00:03:04,518 --> 00:03:06,638 is to give your statement, not to extract one from us. 14 00:03:07,062 --> 00:03:09,520 I'm pretty easygoing, but go away already. 15 00:03:10,565 --> 00:03:11,806 I don't think I will. 16 00:03:13,068 --> 00:03:15,560 Look, we're not at liberty to divulge details 17 00:03:15,904 --> 00:03:17,566 of an ongoing police investigation, 18 00:03:18,115 --> 00:03:20,198 nor to share discovery items with anyone 19 00:03:20,283 --> 00:03:21,774 other than the prosecutor's office. 20 00:03:22,119 --> 00:03:23,846 Now, you can talk to them, if they'll talk to you... 21 00:03:23,870 --> 00:03:25,862 Hey, hey, hey. All right, stop. 22 00:03:27,207 --> 00:03:28,207 Wayne. 23 00:03:29,042 --> 00:03:31,159 Finish up today, all right? 24 00:03:31,712 --> 00:03:33,123 Then after, we'll speak. 25 00:03:34,631 --> 00:03:38,875 I'm saying, we'll talk. Okay? 26 00:03:42,431 --> 00:03:43,467 Now, you were saying. 27 00:03:44,683 --> 00:03:47,767 You questioned people during this time. Right? 28 00:03:48,645 --> 00:03:50,136 Do you know another way to do it? 29 00:03:52,899 --> 00:03:54,936 The father worked at Wilson Body Works, 30 00:03:55,026 --> 00:03:56,866 where they used to make parts for school buses. 31 00:03:57,362 --> 00:03:58,773 We talked to everybody there. 32 00:03:59,364 --> 00:04:02,072 Employed about 100 people from West Finger. 33 00:04:03,410 --> 00:04:06,073 The dolls were their own thing. Wasn't getting us anywhere, either. 34 00:04:14,588 --> 00:04:15,749 Thank you very much. 35 00:04:16,798 --> 00:04:20,667 That guy who collected garbage, Woodard. We talked to him, too. 36 00:04:21,428 --> 00:04:24,421 I saw the kids. They were pedaling into the sun. 37 00:04:25,474 --> 00:04:26,555 Headed west? 38 00:04:28,894 --> 00:04:30,260 We went by your place. 39 00:04:32,230 --> 00:04:33,892 You sort of collect things, huh? 40 00:04:34,399 --> 00:04:36,561 I salvage trash that I can sell. 41 00:04:36,651 --> 00:04:38,688 You don't need to make it sound better than that. 42 00:04:38,779 --> 00:04:41,897 You got any other properties? Anywhere you keep things? 43 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:44,611 I don't have anyplace else. 44 00:04:45,452 --> 00:04:49,241 What'd you do before this? Before you collected scrap. 45 00:04:50,749 --> 00:04:54,618 Uh, came back from overseas. '72. 46 00:04:55,545 --> 00:04:56,786 Did some carpentry. 47 00:04:57,422 --> 00:04:59,539 Construction dropped off. Things didn't work out. 48 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,712 My marriage. Stuff. 49 00:05:03,136 --> 00:05:04,468 I was gone too long. 50 00:05:05,305 --> 00:05:08,548 About four years ago, she left me. Took the kids. 51 00:05:10,685 --> 00:05:12,051 I was motor pool. 52 00:05:12,938 --> 00:05:15,726 My man here was a LRRP. Two tours. 53 00:05:16,650 --> 00:05:17,891 Detective Hays. 54 00:05:18,485 --> 00:05:20,477 They called him "Purple Hays" over there. 55 00:05:22,322 --> 00:05:23,563 You miss your family? 56 00:05:24,032 --> 00:05:25,614 I... Yeah. 57 00:05:26,993 --> 00:05:28,450 I miss being someone that way... 58 00:05:29,621 --> 00:05:30,953 A way I could have a family. 59 00:05:32,541 --> 00:05:33,873 You were recon? 60 00:05:35,168 --> 00:05:36,704 75th Infantry. 61 00:05:38,296 --> 00:05:39,332 Sergeant. 62 00:05:40,257 --> 00:05:43,216 You must be pretty insane, volunteering for that. 63 00:05:43,844 --> 00:05:45,884 I didn't think about it much, to tell you the truth. 64 00:05:50,392 --> 00:05:51,849 I ain't one of them burnouts. 65 00:05:52,394 --> 00:05:55,637 You know, comes back busting guys up, getting high. 66 00:05:56,398 --> 00:05:59,641 And I ain't a bum. I keep a house. I pay my way. 67 00:05:59,734 --> 00:06:02,351 Hey. I ain't judging, man. 68 00:06:04,239 --> 00:06:06,856 Look, I punch in and out. 69 00:06:07,868 --> 00:06:09,279 I put on a suit in the morning. 70 00:06:10,328 --> 00:06:11,535 And being honest, 71 00:06:13,331 --> 00:06:14,822 I don't have much of a life. 72 00:06:16,626 --> 00:06:19,960 So why? Why punch in? 73 00:06:20,964 --> 00:06:22,796 Why the suit? Why... 74 00:06:23,091 --> 00:06:24,832 I don't ask myself questions like that. 75 00:06:27,262 --> 00:06:29,595 Could be I'm too chickenshit, Mr. Woodard. 76 00:06:32,559 --> 00:06:33,891 It ain't my world. 77 00:06:34,853 --> 00:06:36,185 Less than yours, even. 78 00:06:37,439 --> 00:06:39,476 But I did pretty good at following orders. 79 00:06:41,318 --> 00:06:42,318 Now... 80 00:06:43,945 --> 00:06:45,186 You ever do this? 81 00:06:45,780 --> 00:06:50,070 I miss when "Don't get killed" was the only thing on my to-do list. 82 00:06:52,537 --> 00:06:53,994 It's hard to unplug from that. 83 00:06:56,041 --> 00:06:57,373 I spent a year coming down. 84 00:07:02,923 --> 00:07:06,132 Just to go back over it, you sure you didn't see anything? 85 00:07:07,761 --> 00:07:10,629 I told you. I saw the teenagers out there, too. 86 00:07:11,514 --> 00:07:13,221 I was going in the other direction. 87 00:07:14,476 --> 00:07:16,092 You like kids, generally? 88 00:07:17,812 --> 00:07:18,848 Do... 89 00:07:19,814 --> 00:07:21,476 What the fuck's the right answer to that? 90 00:07:25,278 --> 00:07:29,238 You think I... Listen, I got two kids, okay? 91 00:07:29,741 --> 00:07:30,857 Where are they? 92 00:07:32,410 --> 00:07:35,118 I don't know. She didn't tell me. 93 00:07:36,331 --> 00:07:37,742 And I haven't gone looking. 94 00:07:39,668 --> 00:07:43,457 If I'd never left, I think it'd have been fine. 95 00:07:45,173 --> 00:07:47,085 But to go, and come back... 96 00:07:48,885 --> 00:07:51,548 I just couldn't put myself back in that old story, that's all. 97 00:07:52,389 --> 00:07:54,597 And I couldn't leave it, either. You know? 98 00:07:56,977 --> 00:07:58,843 You ever been someplace you couldn't leave, 99 00:08:00,647 --> 00:08:04,391 and you couldn't stay, both at the same time? 100 00:08:13,702 --> 00:08:15,068 Do you remember the place? 101 00:08:21,167 --> 00:08:22,167 I remember. 102 00:08:34,597 --> 00:08:37,305 I can tell you all that none of us will rest 103 00:08:37,392 --> 00:08:39,179 until we achieve justice in the matter. 104 00:08:39,769 --> 00:08:41,726 Our detectives are hard at work, 105 00:08:42,355 --> 00:08:45,314 and this is priority one for law enforcement 106 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,063 in Washington County and Northwest Arkansas. 107 00:08:49,821 --> 00:08:50,821 Now, it's temporary, 108 00:08:50,905 --> 00:08:53,145 but we're gonna have to have a curfew for a little while. 109 00:08:53,491 --> 00:08:55,733 It's important that we keep an eye on our kids right now, 110 00:08:55,827 --> 00:08:58,267 and we want to make sure you know where they are at all times, 111 00:08:58,496 --> 00:09:00,283 and that they're indoors by 8:00. 112 00:09:01,833 --> 00:09:05,042 Now, we can't really say too much about the investigation, 113 00:09:05,128 --> 00:09:06,808 but I'm here to answer any questions I can. 114 00:09:08,048 --> 00:09:10,415 Well, I don't let mine go near Devil's Den. 115 00:09:10,508 --> 00:09:12,795 Everybody knows you got something happening in it. 116 00:09:12,886 --> 00:09:15,845 Bums, junkies. Queers meet up out there. 117 00:09:17,307 --> 00:09:18,673 You have a question, sir? 118 00:09:18,892 --> 00:09:21,132 I wanna know what y'all are doing to break up that stuff. 119 00:09:21,186 --> 00:09:22,472 Clean up that park! 120 00:09:23,063 --> 00:09:26,602 What about these junkies? You got heroin in Arkansas now. 121 00:09:27,150 --> 00:09:29,858 Right now, our focus is trying to find this little girl 122 00:09:30,153 --> 00:09:31,314 and bring her home. 123 00:09:32,155 --> 00:09:33,595 We're considering every possibility. 124 00:09:33,907 --> 00:09:35,187 And what about that fella 125 00:09:35,575 --> 00:09:37,532 always digging through everybody's trash? 126 00:09:38,078 --> 00:09:41,492 Mr. Kindt, can you tell us if they think the girl is still alive? 127 00:09:41,831 --> 00:09:43,663 It's our hope that she's alive, yes. 128 00:09:44,084 --> 00:09:45,495 But again, I really can't discuss 129 00:09:45,585 --> 00:09:47,247 any of the details of the investigation. 130 00:09:48,338 --> 00:09:51,752 Now, our detectives have a pair of Xeroxes to pass out. 131 00:09:52,467 --> 00:09:54,800 One is a picture of Julie Purcell. 132 00:09:55,845 --> 00:09:58,508 The other is the kind of backpack that the boy, Will, had. 133 00:09:59,349 --> 00:10:00,885 It's red and has his name on it. 134 00:10:01,893 --> 00:10:04,351 Now, if anyone has any information of potential interest, 135 00:10:04,437 --> 00:10:06,850 no matter how far afield, share it with us. 136 00:10:07,607 --> 00:10:09,367 And trust that we will not let this terrible, 137 00:10:09,651 --> 00:10:11,483 cowardly act go unpunished. 138 00:10:12,737 --> 00:10:14,945 Your old boss got real vocal around then. 139 00:10:15,198 --> 00:10:17,861 Gerald Kindt had an election coming up the next year. 140 00:10:18,451 --> 00:10:19,451 I know. 141 00:10:19,744 --> 00:10:21,781 Guess that works to some point in your petition. 142 00:10:22,122 --> 00:10:24,489 It's worth noting, I think, his motivations. 143 00:10:26,209 --> 00:10:29,418 Well, now he's fucking State Attorney General. 144 00:10:32,048 --> 00:10:34,131 But we didn't work for him. He was your boss. 145 00:10:35,135 --> 00:10:36,876 Oh, not for a good while now. 146 00:10:40,223 --> 00:10:41,589 The broken neck is clear. 147 00:10:42,517 --> 00:10:43,974 But the way the arms were folded... 148 00:10:44,727 --> 00:10:46,138 - I know. - And the other thing. 149 00:10:46,646 --> 00:10:51,107 - The hell are those dolls for? - Correct. Look familiar, some way. 150 00:10:51,776 --> 00:10:54,314 Like the kind of thing at country fairs. 151 00:10:54,612 --> 00:10:56,444 What do you get from that crowd in there? 152 00:10:57,824 --> 00:10:58,905 They're worried. 153 00:11:04,330 --> 00:11:06,210 Could be thinking it could have been a neighbor. 154 00:11:07,250 --> 00:11:10,743 Had them sign in. Saw some shifty eyes in there, 155 00:11:11,754 --> 00:11:13,461 but may be my redneck radar. 156 00:11:15,008 --> 00:11:16,008 I don't know. 157 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:18,841 Excuse me. 158 00:11:34,652 --> 00:11:36,143 - Hi. - Hey. 159 00:11:38,907 --> 00:11:40,239 You found him, didn't you? 160 00:11:44,204 --> 00:11:46,124 You look like you haven't slept in a couple days. 161 00:11:46,289 --> 00:11:49,999 Work to do. How's it at school? 162 00:11:51,336 --> 00:11:52,336 Sad. 163 00:11:53,963 --> 00:11:55,295 People are scared. 164 00:12:01,638 --> 00:12:02,638 Uh... 165 00:12:03,348 --> 00:12:04,884 Been asking about this. 166 00:12:06,351 --> 00:12:07,808 We haven't gotten anything. 167 00:12:08,686 --> 00:12:11,975 I don't know, you knowing the kids and such. 168 00:12:14,192 --> 00:12:15,933 You ever seen anything like this? 169 00:12:16,819 --> 00:12:18,526 Seen a kid with a doll like this? 170 00:12:19,239 --> 00:12:22,198 Uh, maybe. I don't know. 171 00:12:22,283 --> 00:12:24,946 But looks like something you'd find in a craft store or something. 172 00:12:28,331 --> 00:12:30,163 I haven't seen any of the kids with them. 173 00:12:32,418 --> 00:12:33,750 Can I keep this? 174 00:12:33,836 --> 00:12:35,702 Uh, sure. 175 00:12:36,005 --> 00:12:39,965 I'll ask around with the kids, maybe check with the other teachers. 176 00:12:40,051 --> 00:12:41,508 All right. Thanks. 177 00:12:44,722 --> 00:12:45,722 Uh... 178 00:12:46,683 --> 00:12:47,683 Amelia. 179 00:12:51,271 --> 00:12:53,308 - Okay, I gotta go. - All right. 180 00:12:55,525 --> 00:12:56,525 Be safe. 181 00:13:03,199 --> 00:13:04,280 Now, this family, 182 00:13:04,367 --> 00:13:05,983 haven't we spent enough time with this? 183 00:13:17,005 --> 00:13:18,086 It's helping me. 184 00:13:20,216 --> 00:13:21,548 Bringing things back. 185 00:13:22,385 --> 00:13:23,385 How's that? 186 00:13:27,098 --> 00:13:28,098 Your mother. 187 00:13:30,518 --> 00:13:31,518 I, um... 188 00:13:34,897 --> 00:13:36,729 I have trouble seeing her sometimes. 189 00:13:37,775 --> 00:13:44,022 Or I know who she is, but the parts of our lives, pieces, 190 00:13:45,867 --> 00:13:47,108 I can't picture them. 191 00:13:50,163 --> 00:13:51,950 You think Mom wants you to keep doing this? 192 00:13:52,915 --> 00:13:56,079 It's bringing things back, going over the case. 193 00:13:57,128 --> 00:14:01,418 I'm remembering things. My life. Your sister. 194 00:14:07,472 --> 00:14:09,589 You know when the last time I saw Rebecca? 195 00:14:15,063 --> 00:14:16,224 Mom's funeral? 196 00:14:19,192 --> 00:14:21,559 I think you talked on the phone a few months back. 197 00:14:36,667 --> 00:14:39,205 You sure you wanna keep talking to the TV people? 198 00:14:42,507 --> 00:14:46,547 That woman, the director, I wanna know what she's after. 199 00:14:47,387 --> 00:14:48,844 What they might know now. 200 00:14:50,181 --> 00:14:53,800 She said she'd, uh, show me something next time. 201 00:14:54,102 --> 00:14:55,559 She's baiting you, Dad. 202 00:14:56,312 --> 00:14:58,850 Do you think she cares at all about you or who did it? 203 00:15:01,567 --> 00:15:03,934 She just wants people to watch her shitty show. 204 00:15:05,446 --> 00:15:09,065 And I think Mom would want you to move on. 205 00:15:10,785 --> 00:15:12,265 Enjoy the family you have around you. 206 00:15:15,081 --> 00:15:19,997 Well, she and I always had different ideas. 207 00:15:20,086 --> 00:15:21,577 I remember that. 208 00:15:28,052 --> 00:15:30,044 Wayne. Roland. 209 00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:33,468 Special Agents Burt Diller and John Bowen. 210 00:15:34,225 --> 00:15:36,467 Thanks, Detective. We'll get these back ASAP. 211 00:15:36,853 --> 00:15:38,344 Want you to know we have no intention 212 00:15:38,563 --> 00:15:41,146 of impeding or usurping your investigation. 213 00:15:41,482 --> 00:15:45,192 This is a Task Force. One unit with a common goal. 214 00:15:46,154 --> 00:15:47,756 Feds are gonna take the lead with the kidnapping. 215 00:15:47,780 --> 00:15:50,318 You two are still point on the death investigation. 216 00:15:50,408 --> 00:15:53,116 Both of which will hopefully lead to the same solution. 217 00:15:53,202 --> 00:15:54,322 Everybody shares everything. 218 00:15:54,579 --> 00:15:57,196 We'll be doing debriefs first thing every morning. 219 00:15:57,290 --> 00:15:58,406 Everybody turns in dailies. 220 00:15:58,916 --> 00:16:00,202 How you guys wanna go forward? 221 00:16:00,793 --> 00:16:03,501 We got a multi-state APB out on the girl. 222 00:16:03,588 --> 00:16:05,955 Checkpoints along state lines. Agents advised. 223 00:16:08,301 --> 00:16:11,044 Let's get caught up. We'll figure our next move. 224 00:16:12,889 --> 00:16:13,889 Time? 225 00:16:14,765 --> 00:16:16,051 You two have somewhere to be? 226 00:16:17,059 --> 00:16:18,766 We got a funeral to get to. 227 00:16:42,793 --> 00:16:44,204 I know we spoke on the phone, 228 00:16:46,130 --> 00:16:48,010 but we want to touch base on a couple of things. 229 00:16:49,383 --> 00:16:50,383 What's that? 230 00:16:50,927 --> 00:16:52,634 I haven't been out here since last May. 231 00:16:53,221 --> 00:16:55,213 You stayed in the boy Will's room, right? 232 00:16:55,306 --> 00:16:56,717 Yeah. Told you I did. 233 00:16:57,266 --> 00:16:58,973 Leave a couple magazines behind? 234 00:16:59,977 --> 00:17:01,263 Under the mattress? 235 00:17:01,354 --> 00:17:03,971 Damn. Yeah, maybe I did. 236 00:17:04,941 --> 00:17:06,148 Uh, should I... 237 00:17:07,527 --> 00:17:08,643 Never mind. 238 00:17:08,986 --> 00:17:11,194 You recall anything from the time you spent in the house 239 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,646 might be worth mentioning? 240 00:17:13,157 --> 00:17:15,365 Like, you ever see anybody talking to the kids? 241 00:17:15,952 --> 00:17:17,659 Any adults you didn't recognize? 242 00:17:18,162 --> 00:17:21,530 Nah. Nah. Can't say I recall anything like that. 243 00:17:22,333 --> 00:17:24,916 Them kids, they kept to themselves a lot, you know. 244 00:17:25,002 --> 00:17:26,402 The house was a pretty tense place. 245 00:17:28,256 --> 00:17:30,936 I mean, you can probably tell, Lucy and Tom, they aren't real happy. 246 00:17:31,050 --> 00:17:32,416 Before any of this. 247 00:17:33,344 --> 00:17:36,678 Will and Julie, they play outside the house a lot? 248 00:17:37,431 --> 00:17:38,638 Yeah. I think so. 249 00:17:38,724 --> 00:17:40,465 I don't think they liked being around there. 250 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,392 You know, Mom and Dad angry all the time. 251 00:17:51,445 --> 00:17:53,061 Were you pretty close to Will and Julie? 252 00:17:53,864 --> 00:17:58,825 I don't know. We got along. I played with them a couple times. 253 00:18:00,037 --> 00:18:02,120 They didn't see me much before I stayed here. 254 00:18:02,498 --> 00:18:03,739 But they were good kids. 255 00:18:04,458 --> 00:18:05,539 What do you think of Tom? 256 00:18:09,130 --> 00:18:10,462 He's an all right guy. 257 00:18:11,924 --> 00:18:15,634 I feel sorry for him. I felt for him even before all this. 258 00:18:18,139 --> 00:18:19,630 I mean, in my opinion, 259 00:18:20,224 --> 00:18:22,557 Lucy always needed, like, a strong male. 260 00:18:25,896 --> 00:18:27,307 Staying in town long? 261 00:18:27,982 --> 00:18:29,848 Nah, I gotta get back to work. 262 00:18:31,152 --> 00:18:33,064 Family could probably use you around. 263 00:18:33,154 --> 00:18:34,690 I can't get the time off. 264 00:18:35,239 --> 00:18:37,105 It's not like there's a lot I can do for them. 265 00:18:37,783 --> 00:18:38,990 And the night of? 266 00:18:39,535 --> 00:18:41,618 Your neighbor can confirm you were at home? 267 00:18:45,833 --> 00:18:47,199 I don't know if they can or not. 268 00:18:47,918 --> 00:18:50,285 But you could check with the Starlight Bar in Springfield. 269 00:18:50,671 --> 00:18:52,037 I had a couple there after work, 270 00:18:52,131 --> 00:18:54,248 and then I went home and watched CHiPs. 271 00:18:55,217 --> 00:18:58,585 - You wanna search my place? - Would that be okay? 272 00:19:01,098 --> 00:19:02,098 Sure. 273 00:19:03,601 --> 00:19:07,390 But maybe you should be out there trying to find my niece. 274 00:19:11,317 --> 00:19:12,728 I'm gonna get back to Lucy. 275 00:19:19,825 --> 00:19:21,487 Like we said over the phone, 276 00:19:22,411 --> 00:19:25,995 we hadn't seen or talked with the kids since last Christmas. 277 00:19:26,916 --> 00:19:28,703 Nearly a year ago. 278 00:19:30,753 --> 00:19:33,541 - She doesn't like us. - That's Lucy, you mean? 279 00:19:33,923 --> 00:19:35,710 Eloise, let's don't, now. 280 00:19:36,300 --> 00:19:37,416 Why not now? 281 00:19:37,843 --> 00:19:40,426 Why not just say it? The children are lost. 282 00:19:41,806 --> 00:19:45,299 Yes, I mean Lucy. She runs around on Tom, you know. 283 00:19:45,685 --> 00:19:47,722 Every marriage has its own story. 284 00:19:48,354 --> 00:19:50,220 Nobody knows except the two involved. 285 00:19:50,314 --> 00:19:51,896 Bull. She was a terrible... 286 00:19:54,568 --> 00:19:58,232 You know, there's been some wondering about Julie. 287 00:19:58,698 --> 00:20:00,234 Don't. Not today. 288 00:20:00,324 --> 00:20:01,656 Tom was working offshore. 289 00:20:02,076 --> 00:20:04,693 Could have been welding in Texas when Julie was conceived. 290 00:20:04,787 --> 00:20:06,870 - Now, I've wondered... - God damn it! 291 00:20:08,791 --> 00:20:11,750 Not today, Eloise. Not today. 292 00:20:15,881 --> 00:20:16,881 Hey. 293 00:20:19,301 --> 00:20:21,884 Why don't the two of y'all get out of my house for today? 294 00:20:24,181 --> 00:20:25,672 Mom, Dad. 295 00:20:42,283 --> 00:20:44,603 Yeah, I got it now. 296 00:20:44,702 --> 00:20:45,742 There's a web forum 297 00:20:45,786 --> 00:20:47,778 that posts about real-life criminal cases, 298 00:20:47,872 --> 00:20:50,239 things that are unsolved or unresolved. 299 00:20:50,583 --> 00:20:52,383 They have a whole section on the Purcell case. 300 00:20:57,715 --> 00:20:59,047 This is what people do now? 301 00:21:01,761 --> 00:21:03,241 They go in lots of directions. 302 00:21:04,388 --> 00:21:06,425 Did you know at various times since, 303 00:21:06,515 --> 00:21:08,928 large-scale pedophile rings connected to people of influence 304 00:21:09,018 --> 00:21:10,930 were uncovered in the surrounding areas? 305 00:21:11,020 --> 00:21:13,012 Do you know about the Franklin scandal? 306 00:21:15,316 --> 00:21:16,727 No. 307 00:21:16,984 --> 00:21:18,544 It's been theorized that the straw dolls 308 00:21:18,652 --> 00:21:21,486 are a sign of pedophile groups, like the crooked spiral. 309 00:21:22,531 --> 00:21:24,113 I don't think that's right. 310 00:21:28,537 --> 00:21:32,451 Can I ask, with what happened in 1990 and you leaving the force, 311 00:21:33,042 --> 00:21:34,999 did you ever feel your leads and theories 312 00:21:35,085 --> 00:21:36,701 were discounted because of your race? 313 00:21:38,297 --> 00:21:41,415 Not particularly. No, why? 314 00:21:42,051 --> 00:21:43,792 I'm interested in the intersectionality 315 00:21:43,886 --> 00:21:44,967 of marginalized groups 316 00:21:45,054 --> 00:21:47,512 within authoritarian and systemic racist structures. 317 00:21:54,814 --> 00:21:57,101 Anyways, those dolls from the scene, 318 00:21:57,191 --> 00:21:58,351 they were a significant lead. 319 00:21:59,151 --> 00:22:02,861 Amelia. She's the one helped us out with that. 320 00:22:03,405 --> 00:22:04,646 Got us that lead. 321 00:22:14,583 --> 00:22:17,166 Have you seen a doll that looks like this? 322 00:22:17,378 --> 00:22:18,378 No. 323 00:22:18,754 --> 00:22:19,835 Not you? 324 00:22:20,130 --> 00:22:22,167 Okay, well, you let me know if you do, okay? 325 00:22:36,397 --> 00:22:39,936 Mike, have you seen this doll before? 326 00:22:42,194 --> 00:22:43,194 Halloween. 327 00:22:44,780 --> 00:22:48,899 Somebody was passing them out at trick-or-treat, I think. 328 00:22:50,953 --> 00:22:53,411 Julie, she got one. 329 00:22:54,665 --> 00:22:57,624 This Halloween you went trick-or-treating with her? 330 00:22:58,961 --> 00:23:02,375 We met her and her brother and... And some other kids. 331 00:23:03,507 --> 00:23:05,499 We live on the next street over. 332 00:23:09,221 --> 00:23:10,257 It's okay. 333 00:23:30,910 --> 00:23:31,910 Tom? 334 00:23:33,287 --> 00:23:35,244 Tom! Tom! 335 00:23:37,041 --> 00:23:40,000 Hey, what you doing back up here, brother? 336 00:23:40,336 --> 00:23:43,704 Talking about? This is my usual shift. Four years. 337 00:23:54,725 --> 00:23:57,763 What's your fucking problem? My dick showing? 338 00:24:03,233 --> 00:24:04,233 Hey, Tom. 339 00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:07,151 You sure you wanna be back at work today? 340 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,899 I've been working full-time since I was 14 years old. 341 00:24:13,869 --> 00:24:16,577 You want me to sit at home with this shit in my head now? 342 00:24:22,002 --> 00:24:23,355 How long are you motherfuckers 343 00:24:23,379 --> 00:24:24,379 gonna stare at me? 344 00:24:25,923 --> 00:24:29,542 Somebody got something to say about me? My family? 345 00:24:30,427 --> 00:24:32,134 Huh? Somebody know something I don't... 346 00:24:32,221 --> 00:24:34,588 Tom? Hi. 347 00:24:36,266 --> 00:24:38,553 We didn't plan on having you back this soon. 348 00:24:38,644 --> 00:24:40,135 Well, I gotta earn a living. 349 00:24:40,938 --> 00:24:45,649 Well, the thing is, we, uh... We put you on leave. 350 00:24:46,527 --> 00:24:48,143 Well, I didn't ask for that, okay? 351 00:24:48,237 --> 00:24:50,274 Now, I gotta work. You telling me I can't work? 352 00:24:51,865 --> 00:24:54,608 Look, with everything that's happening, 353 00:24:54,702 --> 00:24:55,738 it's a little disruptive. 354 00:24:57,371 --> 00:24:58,891 People have other things on their mind. 355 00:24:59,832 --> 00:25:01,039 These machines. 356 00:25:01,709 --> 00:25:04,122 That's how accidents happen. You know that, Tom. 357 00:25:06,505 --> 00:25:08,622 I'm the guy nobody wants to be, huh? 358 00:25:12,636 --> 00:25:14,218 I'm a fucking joke, right? 359 00:25:16,140 --> 00:25:17,802 You shouldn't look at it like that. 360 00:25:18,851 --> 00:25:21,138 But you ain't coming back to work right now, Tom. 361 00:25:26,442 --> 00:25:28,183 Well, fuck everything, anyway! 362 00:25:29,236 --> 00:25:32,820 Yeah, fuck each of you! I quit! 363 00:25:39,288 --> 00:25:41,450 You remember which house was giving these out? 364 00:25:44,460 --> 00:25:45,667 Who else got one? 365 00:25:50,424 --> 00:25:54,134 Mike, did you see her get the doll? 366 00:25:56,513 --> 00:25:57,513 No, ma'am. 367 00:25:58,390 --> 00:25:59,847 When did you see she had it? 368 00:26:00,768 --> 00:26:02,009 It was like at the end. 369 00:26:02,853 --> 00:26:04,344 We were all showing what we got, 370 00:26:05,022 --> 00:26:07,355 and she had the doll in her trick-or-treat bag. 371 00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:10,688 Did you stay in the neighborhood, or did you drive somewhere? 372 00:26:11,487 --> 00:26:12,694 We just walked. 373 00:26:15,908 --> 00:26:18,446 Thanks, Mike. You're really helping. 374 00:26:20,537 --> 00:26:23,245 Hey. What'd you go as for Halloween? 375 00:26:23,916 --> 00:26:25,032 Luke Skywalker. 376 00:26:25,459 --> 00:26:29,669 Cool, man. My partner, he loved that movie. 377 00:26:47,564 --> 00:26:48,564 Say, uh, 378 00:26:50,776 --> 00:26:52,816 were you with Julie and her brother the whole night? 379 00:26:53,612 --> 00:26:56,650 Or was there ever a time y'all went different ways? 380 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,200 Yeah. 381 00:27:00,077 --> 00:27:02,034 They'd been to a couple houses before we met up. 382 00:27:02,579 --> 00:27:05,162 But I don't think she had the doll then. 383 00:27:06,250 --> 00:27:07,536 How about the rest of the night? 384 00:27:08,919 --> 00:27:10,660 We might have split up once or twice. 385 00:27:12,131 --> 00:27:14,373 But not for long. 386 00:27:15,551 --> 00:27:18,589 I saw her talking to people. Adults, maybe. 387 00:27:20,681 --> 00:27:23,594 They were two ghosts. Just in big sheets. 388 00:27:26,186 --> 00:27:27,677 You don't know who the ghosts were? 389 00:27:31,483 --> 00:27:33,190 Can you show us where it was y'all went? 390 00:27:36,363 --> 00:27:37,363 Here. 391 00:28:19,489 --> 00:28:21,151 You must have had some good times. 392 00:28:22,701 --> 00:28:23,817 When y'all meet? 393 00:28:26,246 --> 00:28:27,737 Thirteen years back. 394 00:28:29,208 --> 00:28:31,165 We got married 'cause she was pregnant. 395 00:28:34,129 --> 00:28:35,745 How long you knew her before? 396 00:28:37,007 --> 00:28:38,123 Not long. 397 00:28:40,302 --> 00:28:42,339 Got married three months after we met. 398 00:28:43,597 --> 00:28:45,338 The Fort Smith courthouse. 399 00:28:47,142 --> 00:28:48,474 Me and Lucy, 400 00:28:48,727 --> 00:28:51,014 we never really knew each other, we just... 401 00:28:52,314 --> 00:28:53,680 Well, had the kids. 402 00:28:59,863 --> 00:29:01,445 My kids. Will and... 403 00:29:15,921 --> 00:29:17,958 Are we gonna find Julie, or what? 404 00:29:20,634 --> 00:29:22,466 'Cause I can't live through this, man. 405 00:29:24,930 --> 00:29:26,216 Neither of us can. 406 00:29:30,185 --> 00:29:33,144 If we're not gonna find her, I just need to know now. 407 00:29:39,027 --> 00:29:40,563 I can't go to sleep, 408 00:29:43,448 --> 00:29:44,734 and I can't wake up. 409 00:29:49,371 --> 00:29:51,363 Now, you're saying last week, Halloween, 410 00:29:51,665 --> 00:29:53,031 girl got one of these dolls, 411 00:29:53,125 --> 00:29:55,085 and then you found two of them at the crime scene? 412 00:29:55,335 --> 00:29:56,792 It's an identifier, boss. 413 00:29:57,421 --> 00:29:58,707 So what do you want to do? 414 00:29:59,172 --> 00:30:02,586 We wondered, maybe let's put it out on the TV or paper. 415 00:30:03,468 --> 00:30:05,710 Ask everybody if they seen one of those, 416 00:30:05,804 --> 00:30:07,261 or know who makes them around here. 417 00:30:07,848 --> 00:30:10,465 But that'd tip our hand. We're not ready for that. 418 00:30:11,268 --> 00:30:12,304 What's better... 419 00:30:12,394 --> 00:30:15,057 There's 114 households in the marked area 420 00:30:15,147 --> 00:30:16,683 and the subdivision near it. 421 00:30:16,773 --> 00:30:18,139 We do total surveillance. 422 00:30:18,650 --> 00:30:20,733 We have people searching every single house. 423 00:30:21,403 --> 00:30:24,111 Oh, come on. You don't have enough for one warrant, much less 100. 424 00:30:24,448 --> 00:30:28,032 No warrants. Say, two days, maybe three. 425 00:30:28,785 --> 00:30:29,821 Every detective we have. 426 00:30:30,495 --> 00:30:31,827 Pull in more Feds, you want. 427 00:30:32,539 --> 00:30:34,781 Everybody just knocks and asks if they can search. 428 00:30:35,375 --> 00:30:36,957 Say it'll help with the Purcell case. 429 00:30:37,836 --> 00:30:41,204 People won't like it, but a lot, I bet... 430 00:30:42,382 --> 00:30:43,782 A lot of people let us look around. 431 00:30:44,343 --> 00:30:45,584 We keep surveillance. 432 00:30:46,178 --> 00:30:47,885 See if somebody starts acting hinky. 433 00:30:48,472 --> 00:30:50,714 Nobody escapes the net. Our guy panics or something, 434 00:30:51,183 --> 00:30:53,391 we do it fast, without announcement. 435 00:30:53,477 --> 00:30:56,515 Even if you find anything, it could be problematic at trial. 436 00:30:56,938 --> 00:30:59,098 This is about the girl, not a trial. 437 00:30:59,941 --> 00:31:01,941 Something happened on Halloween, that night. 438 00:31:02,235 --> 00:31:03,601 She gets that doll. 439 00:31:04,071 --> 00:31:05,858 A week later, she and her brother are gone, 440 00:31:05,947 --> 00:31:07,859 and you got two of those things on the scene. 441 00:31:07,949 --> 00:31:09,949 Maybe the perp's just brought them somewhere. 442 00:31:10,077 --> 00:31:12,444 You know? Maybe the dolls belonged to the girl. 443 00:31:12,537 --> 00:31:13,697 It's all maybes, man. 444 00:31:14,373 --> 00:31:15,893 You do the maybe that gives you a shot. 445 00:31:16,208 --> 00:31:17,208 No, it's thin. 446 00:31:18,377 --> 00:31:19,584 I mean, our constituents here, 447 00:31:19,669 --> 00:31:22,082 they value privacy and property rights. 448 00:31:22,672 --> 00:31:26,131 They aren't just gonna acquiesce to random searches of their homes. 449 00:31:28,220 --> 00:31:29,756 There's other ways to approach it. 450 00:31:31,056 --> 00:31:33,159 If we bring in the public, it stirs up the town 451 00:31:33,183 --> 00:31:34,924 and lets our guy know what we're thinking. 452 00:31:35,352 --> 00:31:36,352 Maybe he takes off. 453 00:31:36,436 --> 00:31:38,473 Maybe he just kills her, if he hasn't already. 454 00:31:40,857 --> 00:31:42,223 We can just do it fast. 455 00:31:43,568 --> 00:31:44,854 People will get over it. 456 00:31:48,615 --> 00:31:49,615 Warren. 457 00:31:50,283 --> 00:31:51,990 Just give us some time, Roland. 458 00:32:18,145 --> 00:32:19,852 Been running this sting. 459 00:32:19,938 --> 00:32:22,225 Truck stop next door. Prosts and drugs. 460 00:32:22,983 --> 00:32:25,316 I was gonna check this guy out at some point. 461 00:32:25,819 --> 00:32:29,813 He asked one of the working girls if they had any younger friends. 462 00:32:29,906 --> 00:32:32,023 And another said he asked her, too. 463 00:32:32,826 --> 00:32:35,489 Came in here looking for special magazines. 464 00:32:36,496 --> 00:32:38,328 Ted LaGrange. Pulled his file. 465 00:32:39,332 --> 00:32:41,073 He got outta Wrightsville a while back. 466 00:32:41,168 --> 00:32:45,708 Carnal knowledge of a minor. Enticing a minor. Bunch of shit. 467 00:32:48,425 --> 00:32:51,543 Calling himself "Robert" something now. 468 00:32:52,637 --> 00:32:53,718 Thanks, Rich. 469 00:32:56,892 --> 00:33:00,852 Man, you gotta come in here every day? 470 00:33:03,523 --> 00:33:04,764 Welcome to Vice. 471 00:33:32,093 --> 00:33:33,834 I haven't seen you here before, have I? 472 00:33:34,971 --> 00:33:36,803 I'm usually at the VFW. 473 00:33:40,769 --> 00:33:43,129 Want to thank you for everything you did today with the kid. 474 00:33:45,023 --> 00:33:46,980 He wasn't talking to us till you opened him up. 475 00:33:48,777 --> 00:33:50,018 Real grateful for that. 476 00:33:51,738 --> 00:33:52,979 He was broken up about it. 477 00:33:54,783 --> 00:33:56,399 I think he had a crush on Julie. 478 00:33:59,496 --> 00:34:01,112 Why'd you give me that picture? 479 00:34:02,290 --> 00:34:03,290 The doll. 480 00:34:04,042 --> 00:34:05,203 Instinct, I guess. 481 00:34:06,836 --> 00:34:08,623 I knew the kids weren't talking to us. 482 00:34:11,258 --> 00:34:12,374 You were in the war? 483 00:34:15,595 --> 00:34:16,881 You're a cop, 484 00:34:16,972 --> 00:34:18,884 so you want to know more about a person, 485 00:34:18,974 --> 00:34:20,055 you just look them up, huh? 486 00:34:20,976 --> 00:34:22,057 Pretty much. 487 00:34:23,395 --> 00:34:24,602 Did you look me up? 488 00:34:29,901 --> 00:34:30,982 Thought about it, though. 489 00:34:38,201 --> 00:34:39,317 I was born here. 490 00:34:40,620 --> 00:34:41,827 I went to U of A. 491 00:34:43,415 --> 00:34:45,202 Dropped out my junior year. 492 00:34:46,376 --> 00:34:47,833 Went west with a friend. 493 00:34:48,878 --> 00:34:50,460 We got in with some people. 494 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,792 I was in this scene, San Francisco. 495 00:34:55,218 --> 00:34:59,303 Anti-war, kind of fringe Panther stuff. 496 00:35:01,308 --> 00:35:03,675 Some things happened, not good. 497 00:35:05,103 --> 00:35:06,435 And then I was alone. 498 00:35:07,814 --> 00:35:10,807 '74, I came back home, got my degree. 499 00:35:17,157 --> 00:35:18,568 I grew up in Conway. 500 00:35:20,285 --> 00:35:21,742 My mom worked on a farm. 501 00:35:23,496 --> 00:35:25,032 I spent two years in the jungle. 502 00:35:26,333 --> 00:35:27,824 A lot of it I was alone. 503 00:35:30,128 --> 00:35:33,371 I hunt a lot now. Alone. 504 00:35:34,883 --> 00:35:36,124 I'm a vegetarian. 505 00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:38,842 That's a real shame. 506 00:35:40,597 --> 00:35:42,213 If you're a Democrat, don't tell me. 507 00:35:46,645 --> 00:35:47,726 You like teaching? 508 00:35:49,898 --> 00:35:50,934 Sometimes. 509 00:35:53,026 --> 00:35:54,358 I want to be a writer. 510 00:35:56,279 --> 00:35:57,360 Write books. 511 00:35:59,366 --> 00:36:00,732 I don't read enough. 512 00:36:01,993 --> 00:36:04,076 I like Batman and Silver Surfer. 513 00:36:06,122 --> 00:36:09,115 I had this sort of dyslexic thing growing up. 514 00:36:10,543 --> 00:36:11,659 Was that hard? 515 00:36:12,629 --> 00:36:13,870 They said I was dumb. 516 00:36:15,507 --> 00:36:17,043 My mom wasn't having any of that. 517 00:36:20,887 --> 00:36:24,051 That poem you were teaching, I looked it up. 518 00:36:24,432 --> 00:36:26,298 - Oh, yeah? - I read it. 519 00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:30,102 I'm not ready to talk about it yet, but I have thoughts. 520 00:36:32,232 --> 00:36:34,098 - Share when you want. - All right. 521 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,561 You ever been married? 522 00:36:39,572 --> 00:36:40,572 No. 523 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,316 You? 524 00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:45,951 I was engaged. Seven months. 525 00:36:47,664 --> 00:36:48,871 I broke it off. 526 00:36:49,416 --> 00:36:51,282 I didn't want to be married, I realized. 527 00:36:52,711 --> 00:36:55,328 - I don't wanna get married. - No? 528 00:36:58,216 --> 00:37:00,299 Guy the other day said I must be crazy. 529 00:37:02,178 --> 00:37:05,671 Thing is, and I've thought of this for a while, 530 00:37:07,684 --> 00:37:08,970 I think I might be. 531 00:37:10,603 --> 00:37:11,639 Like how? 532 00:37:17,610 --> 00:37:19,943 I wear clip-on ties 'cause I'm preoccupied 533 00:37:20,029 --> 00:37:22,316 with this idea of getting strangled with one. 534 00:37:25,660 --> 00:37:26,696 Is that too much? 535 00:37:30,623 --> 00:37:32,785 This year, twice, 536 00:37:33,501 --> 00:37:36,994 I've been to St. Louis, and I've stayed at this hotel, 537 00:37:37,630 --> 00:37:39,337 and I've pretended I'm someone else. 538 00:37:40,842 --> 00:37:44,586 I go out, meet new people, and I am someone else. 539 00:37:45,054 --> 00:37:48,638 Different name, different background, different job. 540 00:37:49,392 --> 00:37:50,392 Twice. 541 00:37:59,569 --> 00:38:00,685 You drink too much? 542 00:38:02,447 --> 00:38:03,528 I don't know. 543 00:38:05,033 --> 00:38:06,820 I might get drunk twice a month. 544 00:38:08,953 --> 00:38:09,989 Three times. 545 00:38:11,748 --> 00:38:13,330 I like to laugh, is the thing. 546 00:38:16,753 --> 00:38:19,211 Hey. Raise it up. 547 00:38:20,048 --> 00:38:22,040 Hurry. Quick. 548 00:38:24,302 --> 00:38:26,840 ...information in the Purcell murder-kidnapping, 549 00:38:27,180 --> 00:38:29,923 we go to the Washington County courthouse earlier this afternoon. 550 00:38:30,016 --> 00:38:31,132 Don't do it. 551 00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:33,120 We believe the missing girl, 552 00:38:33,144 --> 00:38:36,228 Julie Purcell, was contacted by her abductor 553 00:38:36,314 --> 00:38:38,601 while she participated in Halloween last week. 554 00:38:39,818 --> 00:38:41,980 We're sharing a graphic of the area 555 00:38:42,070 --> 00:38:43,990 where she and her brother went trick-or-treating. 556 00:38:44,864 --> 00:38:46,571 Now, our investigation suggests 557 00:38:46,658 --> 00:38:49,742 that someone who saw her on Halloween has special knowledge of this case. 558 00:38:50,620 --> 00:38:51,827 Giving it away. 559 00:38:51,913 --> 00:38:53,779 Anyone who saw anything suspicious... 560 00:38:53,873 --> 00:38:56,115 - What's wrong? - I'm sorry. I... 561 00:38:56,793 --> 00:38:59,331 I gotta go. God damn it. 562 00:38:59,963 --> 00:39:02,283 Are you saying the children knew their kidnapper? 563 00:39:02,465 --> 00:39:05,879 I'm not at liberty to, uh, reveal that at this time. Thank you. 564 00:39:09,681 --> 00:39:11,281 I knew they wouldn't listen to me. 565 00:39:12,475 --> 00:39:13,932 But you should have stopped that. 566 00:39:15,103 --> 00:39:18,437 Me? What am I supposed to do? 567 00:39:19,065 --> 00:39:20,146 You were there. 568 00:39:20,525 --> 00:39:23,313 I'm saying, I talk, it don't mean anything. 569 00:39:23,862 --> 00:39:25,228 Don't matter if I'm right. 570 00:39:26,155 --> 00:39:29,148 You, at least, you talk, it means something to them. 571 00:39:29,242 --> 00:39:30,699 Might consider what you're saying. 572 00:39:30,785 --> 00:39:32,221 You might have stopped them from doing that. 573 00:39:32,245 --> 00:39:35,204 Bullshit. Who knew until it was on the TV? 574 00:39:35,540 --> 00:39:36,656 Why didn't you stop them? 575 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,368 They ain't my tribe, man. Take care of your shit. 576 00:39:40,461 --> 00:39:42,828 Tribe? Where you think you are, asshole? 577 00:39:43,172 --> 00:39:45,960 - I know where I am. - Do you? It don't sound like it. 578 00:39:46,634 --> 00:39:48,915 Son, I know where I am in a way you will never understand. 579 00:39:49,804 --> 00:39:51,136 Are you high, "Purple" Hays? 580 00:39:51,681 --> 00:39:53,764 'Cause you're making about as much goddamn sense 581 00:39:53,850 --> 00:39:55,307 as my grandmother's dementia. 582 00:39:55,393 --> 00:39:56,759 No, I'm saying I know where I am. 583 00:39:56,853 --> 00:39:58,185 Hey, good for you. 584 00:40:26,674 --> 00:40:28,165 Was all I could think of. 585 00:40:31,471 --> 00:40:32,587 You got something else? 586 00:40:35,308 --> 00:40:38,051 Vice gave me a dude near Fort Smith to look at. 587 00:40:38,978 --> 00:40:40,344 I pulled his file. 588 00:40:42,607 --> 00:40:43,607 What is it? 589 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,612 You can read for yourself. 590 00:41:03,670 --> 00:41:04,831 You wanna go get him? 591 00:41:08,383 --> 00:41:09,624 I wanna go get him. 592 00:41:11,970 --> 00:41:13,927 We might as well keep watch out here. 593 00:41:15,807 --> 00:41:17,343 Check the guy out in the morning. 594 00:41:18,017 --> 00:41:19,428 Toss his place first. 595 00:41:28,277 --> 00:41:29,688 We should get bennies. 596 00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:33,606 Staying up all night. 597 00:41:36,285 --> 00:41:38,948 Glove box. Red and blue ones. 598 00:41:42,291 --> 00:41:43,907 Prosecuting attorney decided 599 00:41:45,044 --> 00:41:50,039 best thing was to take our single clue and spread it all over the town. 600 00:41:52,593 --> 00:41:55,256 And that got us a few hundred false tips the first couple of days. 601 00:41:56,055 --> 00:41:57,887 That's when it all started with the town. 602 00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:00,100 Just panic. 603 00:42:06,482 --> 00:42:08,815 Lived in their imaginations now, you see? 604 00:42:28,713 --> 00:42:30,045 Everybody was scared. 605 00:42:32,050 --> 00:42:33,166 That included us. 606 00:42:51,235 --> 00:42:52,235 Hi. 607 00:42:54,030 --> 00:42:55,030 Morning. 608 00:43:02,497 --> 00:43:03,533 You gonna eat? 609 00:43:08,086 --> 00:43:09,202 Me neither. 610 00:43:12,757 --> 00:43:14,498 We need you to come with us, sir. 611 00:43:17,929 --> 00:43:20,421 - What's the... - We'll tell you on the way. 612 00:43:22,850 --> 00:43:24,057 No! Please! 613 00:43:25,895 --> 00:43:27,557 No, it's not me, I swear to God! 614 00:43:29,023 --> 00:43:31,766 You're wrong about this. You shouldn't have brought me here. 615 00:43:32,485 --> 00:43:34,067 This get you off, mister, huh? 616 00:43:34,946 --> 00:43:37,279 You entertain fantasies of strapping white men to posts? 617 00:43:39,283 --> 00:43:41,366 - Now and then, yeah. - Really? 618 00:43:44,914 --> 00:43:46,246 Talk about your fantasies. 619 00:43:46,916 --> 00:43:48,202 Then he'll tell you his. 620 00:43:48,876 --> 00:43:50,037 Theodore LaGrange. 621 00:43:51,420 --> 00:43:52,456 It's Ted, yeah? 622 00:43:54,090 --> 00:43:55,672 Ted, you been out a bit over two years. 623 00:43:56,384 --> 00:43:57,384 I haven't done anything. 624 00:43:57,468 --> 00:43:59,196 I know what you're doing, and I haven't done anything. 625 00:43:59,220 --> 00:44:00,300 Released from Wrightsville. 626 00:44:01,514 --> 00:44:05,224 You got Little Rock up the road. Why'd you come way out here, Ted? 627 00:44:07,854 --> 00:44:09,720 And why are you calling yourself Robert Hebert? 628 00:44:10,773 --> 00:44:12,810 I... I wanted a new start. 629 00:44:13,401 --> 00:44:15,441 They keep you in protective custody in Wrightsville? 630 00:44:18,364 --> 00:44:19,364 Figured. 631 00:44:20,575 --> 00:44:22,191 Guys who mess with kids, 632 00:44:23,077 --> 00:44:25,285 they don't usually make it out with all their parts. 633 00:44:25,663 --> 00:44:27,404 Tell me how you mess with kids. 634 00:44:28,291 --> 00:44:29,577 The boy and the girl. 635 00:44:29,917 --> 00:44:32,330 Your landlady said you didn't come home last Friday night. 636 00:44:32,420 --> 00:44:33,501 - What? - The 7th. 637 00:44:34,255 --> 00:44:37,214 That's not... I was out. I was just out. 638 00:44:37,550 --> 00:44:39,831 Help me understand what it was like for you in the moment. 639 00:44:40,052 --> 00:44:42,635 Let me feel your side of it. Okay? 640 00:44:43,764 --> 00:44:45,926 - Tell me why you killed the boy. - I didn't! 641 00:44:46,434 --> 00:44:48,266 I never seen him before he was on the news. 642 00:44:53,149 --> 00:44:55,687 You'll wanna explain to me where you were that night. 643 00:44:58,237 --> 00:44:59,728 Help me see your side of things. 644 00:45:01,991 --> 00:45:03,911 What'd you do on Halloween night? Where were you? 645 00:45:07,872 --> 00:45:08,872 Well, 646 00:45:10,625 --> 00:45:12,912 we're here to listen when you want to share. 647 00:45:39,904 --> 00:45:42,362 Yes. He's here Mondays and Fridays. 648 00:45:42,740 --> 00:45:45,107 We do story time twice a week in the evenings, 649 00:45:45,201 --> 00:45:46,567 and he plays guitar for it. 650 00:45:46,953 --> 00:45:50,162 But his name's Robert Hebert, not what you said. 651 00:45:50,498 --> 00:45:52,285 And he worked on the 7th? Last Friday? 652 00:45:52,625 --> 00:45:53,625 Yes, mmm-hmm. 653 00:45:54,293 --> 00:45:55,813 You know what time he left that night? 654 00:45:56,128 --> 00:45:57,494 Probably about 8:00 or after. 655 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,213 He helped us put up the tables and chairs. 656 00:46:01,300 --> 00:46:02,586 Did he do something? 657 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,631 You're not gonna see this guy anymore. 658 00:46:07,598 --> 00:46:09,089 If you do, give us a call, okay? 659 00:46:15,940 --> 00:46:17,602 Robbery was a couple of months ago. 660 00:46:17,692 --> 00:46:19,729 All I know for sure is that her prints showed up. 661 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:22,652 It's like you said... 662 00:46:23,197 --> 00:46:26,281 They don't know if she was a customer or part of the break-in. 663 00:46:26,742 --> 00:46:28,278 Was it a partial or a full? 664 00:46:29,161 --> 00:46:30,161 Full. 665 00:46:31,289 --> 00:46:32,496 It was her. 666 00:46:34,875 --> 00:46:36,457 They had video surveillance? 667 00:46:36,752 --> 00:46:38,493 Oh, they smashed the camera in the pharmacy. 668 00:46:38,921 --> 00:46:41,129 Store's got footage going back three days prior. 669 00:46:41,215 --> 00:46:43,628 We subpoenaed it, but we have to wait. 670 00:46:44,176 --> 00:46:46,338 Somebody watching the store in case she comes back? 671 00:46:47,221 --> 00:46:50,134 My understanding, Sallisaw PD's focused on the robbery. 672 00:46:50,641 --> 00:46:51,882 And I wouldn't say the locals 673 00:46:52,018 --> 00:46:55,307 are a crackerjack investigative team or anything... 674 00:46:55,563 --> 00:46:56,804 So nothing. 675 00:46:57,189 --> 00:47:00,478 Man's family didn't have the resources for an investigator. 676 00:47:01,944 --> 00:47:03,651 But obviously, we'd like to find her. 677 00:47:10,703 --> 00:47:13,286 What about Arkansas PD? They looking for her? 678 00:47:13,873 --> 00:47:15,705 There's nobody on the case yet. 679 00:47:16,208 --> 00:47:17,790 Kindt's office will have to look at it 680 00:47:17,877 --> 00:47:19,837 since they'll be defending our motion to overturn, 681 00:47:19,962 --> 00:47:21,999 but right now, no. 682 00:47:22,673 --> 00:47:23,789 I don't think so. 683 00:47:24,842 --> 00:47:26,754 You all right going up against your old boss? 684 00:47:29,221 --> 00:47:30,462 It's overdue. 685 00:47:43,778 --> 00:47:44,894 Talk to Roland? 686 00:47:45,654 --> 00:47:47,065 We have an appointment. 687 00:47:48,824 --> 00:47:50,156 He's done well. 688 00:47:52,161 --> 00:47:53,161 He has. 689 00:48:14,558 --> 00:48:15,765 You wanna execute him? 690 00:48:16,060 --> 00:48:18,643 We can bury him right out here. I don't give a shit. 691 00:48:19,772 --> 00:48:22,310 Throw him off a bridge... Nobody'll care. 692 00:48:22,691 --> 00:48:24,808 Put him in holding, 693 00:48:24,902 --> 00:48:26,063 get his parole violated. 694 00:48:26,153 --> 00:48:27,689 He'll be back in Wrightsville tomorrow. 695 00:48:28,030 --> 00:48:31,068 - Full sentence. - If you say so. 696 00:48:31,826 --> 00:48:33,112 Talk shit about us... 697 00:48:33,869 --> 00:48:36,236 I'll have monstrous niggers fuck him to death in his cell. 698 00:48:37,832 --> 00:48:41,325 Do you hear me, boy? You will bleed black cock. 699 00:48:46,340 --> 00:48:49,174 Gotta catch up, man. Just spent the day on this bullshit. 700 00:48:55,307 --> 00:48:59,017 That was a vivid description of prison rape. Jesus. 701 00:48:59,478 --> 00:49:01,014 Could tell he had the racial thing. 702 00:49:01,522 --> 00:49:02,882 Remember what he said in the barn? 703 00:49:03,566 --> 00:49:05,979 Still, it's gonna haunt me. 704 00:49:11,490 --> 00:49:13,090 D-12, do you copy? 705 00:49:17,037 --> 00:49:18,037 Copy, dispatch. 706 00:49:19,123 --> 00:49:21,706 Lieutenant Twiggs wants y'all at the Purcell place. 707 00:49:24,086 --> 00:49:25,086 What's up? 708 00:49:25,588 --> 00:49:27,329 Said the family got a note. 709 00:49:31,969 --> 00:49:34,006 Copy. On the way. 710 00:49:50,988 --> 00:49:52,854 - Hey, Dad. - Hi. 711 00:50:16,347 --> 00:50:20,557 Hey. Hey. Did you see? They sent me the galleys. 712 00:50:20,643 --> 00:50:21,724 That's great. 713 00:50:23,646 --> 00:50:25,308 You got a little loose after work? 714 00:50:27,191 --> 00:50:28,523 How was the deposition? 715 00:50:29,276 --> 00:50:30,312 It was fine. 716 00:50:39,954 --> 00:50:41,786 It's as much about us as anything. 717 00:50:43,916 --> 00:50:45,623 And I think her and me, 718 00:50:47,086 --> 00:50:49,406 it was as close as she could give the thing a happy ending. 719 00:50:52,466 --> 00:50:54,128 After the events of 1990, 720 00:50:54,510 --> 00:50:57,002 and what happened with Julie and her father, 721 00:50:57,763 --> 00:50:59,129 you left the PD. 722 00:51:00,266 --> 00:51:02,303 Did you believe that concluded the case? 723 00:51:03,269 --> 00:51:05,807 Did you feel the investigation ended too abruptly? 724 00:51:07,106 --> 00:51:09,849 She wrote six novels after. This was her first. 725 00:51:11,235 --> 00:51:12,851 Uh, very... 726 00:51:13,988 --> 00:51:17,197 To a cop, very impressive eye for detail. 727 00:51:17,992 --> 00:51:18,992 Have you read it? 728 00:51:20,536 --> 00:51:22,903 Mr. Hays, did you have theories after what happened 729 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,037 with Julie Purcell and her father in '90? 730 00:51:25,583 --> 00:51:28,371 Theories that weren't in line with your superior's directives? 731 00:51:28,460 --> 00:51:29,792 I heard what you asked. 732 00:51:31,005 --> 00:51:32,246 The answer is... 733 00:51:33,966 --> 00:51:36,674 I never stopped coming up with theories about that case. 734 00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:42,589 And I hit Todd and Dave into a home, and when I went over, we won. 735 00:51:42,683 --> 00:51:45,096 Coach saw, and came and talked to me about baseball 736 00:51:45,185 --> 00:51:46,221 when I get older. 737 00:51:51,150 --> 00:51:53,267 - That's fantastic, Henry. - Mmm-hmm. 738 00:51:53,611 --> 00:51:56,319 You're gonna be very athletic. You already are. 739 00:52:10,294 --> 00:52:12,911 The publisher said we can issue an update for the paperback 740 00:52:13,005 --> 00:52:14,667 once this appeal goes to trial. 741 00:52:15,549 --> 00:52:16,549 Yeah? 742 00:52:21,388 --> 00:52:23,220 You're a bit out of it tonight. 743 00:52:24,266 --> 00:52:25,473 The kids noticed. 744 00:52:25,893 --> 00:52:27,600 You can't be that way in front of them. 745 00:52:29,772 --> 00:52:31,638 - I'm not drunk. - What's going on? 746 00:52:33,817 --> 00:52:35,353 What happened with the deposition? 747 00:52:37,655 --> 00:52:39,112 Are they overturning the conviction? 748 00:52:43,202 --> 00:52:44,738 Julie Purcell is alive. 749 00:52:58,384 --> 00:53:00,125 Thought for sure you'd all beat us here. 750 00:53:01,387 --> 00:53:03,067 What is that, huh? 751 00:53:03,514 --> 00:53:04,630 What's that mean? 752 00:53:20,614 --> 00:53:21,900 Well, what's it mean? 753 00:53:22,491 --> 00:53:23,491 Hmm? 754 00:53:36,213 --> 00:53:37,733 You want more chicken, Wayne? 755 00:53:41,635 --> 00:53:42,635 Uh... 756 00:53:44,763 --> 00:53:46,095 Thanks for the spread, Heather. 757 00:53:46,890 --> 00:53:47,971 This is wonderful. 758 00:53:48,851 --> 00:53:50,058 Are you feeling all right? 759 00:53:52,438 --> 00:53:55,351 He's been going back through that case. Mom's book. 760 00:53:57,151 --> 00:53:58,562 I never read the whole thing. 761 00:54:00,404 --> 00:54:02,270 Couldn't stand I was in it so much. 762 00:54:04,825 --> 00:54:06,657 Going back over the story, it's good... 763 00:54:07,619 --> 00:54:10,953 Making me work my brain, I mean. Leading me to other stuff. 764 00:54:15,753 --> 00:54:18,416 Maybe you guys could see about getting Rebecca out here. 765 00:54:19,506 --> 00:54:20,622 I'd like to see her. 766 00:54:23,635 --> 00:54:24,921 She's in L.A., Dad. 767 00:54:26,388 --> 00:54:27,469 When did that happen? 768 00:54:28,724 --> 00:54:29,840 What's she doing out there? 769 00:54:31,185 --> 00:54:32,676 She's playing music, Wayne. 770 00:54:37,024 --> 00:54:38,265 She okay? You talk to her? 771 00:54:38,692 --> 00:54:40,354 I talked to her a few weeks ago. 772 00:54:43,530 --> 00:54:45,237 Think she'd come back home for a visit? 773 00:54:45,824 --> 00:54:47,315 She don't like it here, Dad. 774 00:54:48,452 --> 00:54:49,452 Why not? 775 00:54:51,997 --> 00:54:53,613 I just don't think it suits her. 776 00:54:53,999 --> 00:54:56,286 - She never liked it. - She didn't? 777 00:54:56,794 --> 00:54:58,035 Hey! 778 00:54:59,838 --> 00:55:01,170 One more time, okay? 779 00:55:04,343 --> 00:55:05,754 Shh, eat. 780 00:55:06,970 --> 00:55:08,802 It's going by pretty quick. 781 00:55:11,642 --> 00:55:12,849 Don't I know it. 782 00:55:17,189 --> 00:55:19,727 Maybe you guys could see about getting Rebecca out here. 783 00:55:21,026 --> 00:55:22,107 I'd like to see her. 57826

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