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You have the autopsy report.
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I don't need to go over that.
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Blunt force trauma
and a cervical fracture.
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Somebody broke his neck.
Brought him to that cave.
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Folded his hands, I guess.
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Alan.
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Talk to me about Oklahoma.
You have to, man.
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- Wayne, this isn't the time...
- How many sets of prints were taken?
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Do they know she was
one of the robbers and not a customer?
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If they found her, you wouldn't
even be talking to me, right?
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Do they have video surveillance?
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Mr. Hays,
the purpose of this deposition
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is to give your statement,
not to extract one from us.
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I'm pretty easygoing,
but go away already.
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I don't think I will.
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Look, we're not at liberty
to divulge details
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of an ongoing police investigation,
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nor to share discovery items
with anyone
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other than the prosecutor's office.
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Now, you can talk to them,
if they'll talk to you...
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Hey, hey, hey. All right, stop.
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Wayne.
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Finish up today, all right?
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Then after, we'll speak.
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I'm saying, we'll talk. Okay?
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Now, you were saying.
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You questioned people
during this time. Right?
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Do you know another way to do it?
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The father worked
at Wilson Body Works,
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where they used to make parts
for school buses.
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We talked to everybody there.
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Employed about 100 people
from West Finger.
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The dolls were their own thing.
Wasn't getting us anywhere, either.
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Thank you very much.
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That guy who collected garbage,
Woodard. We talked to him, too.
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I saw the kids.
They were pedaling into the sun.
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Headed west?
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We went by your place.
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You sort of collect things, huh?
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I salvage trash that I can sell.
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You don't need to make it
sound better than that.
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You got any other properties?
Anywhere you keep things?
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I don't have anyplace else.
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What'd you do before this?
Before you collected scrap.
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Uh, came back from overseas. '72.
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Did some carpentry.
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Construction dropped off.
Things didn't work out.
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My marriage. Stuff.
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I was gone too long.
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About four years ago, she left me.
Took the kids.
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I was motor pool.
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My man here was a LRRP. Two tours.
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Detective Hays.
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They called him "Purple Hays"
over there.
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You miss your family?
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I... Yeah.
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I miss being someone that way...
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A way I could have a family.
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You were recon?
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75th Infantry.
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Sergeant.
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You must be pretty insane,
volunteering for that.
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I didn't think about it much,
to tell you the truth.
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I ain't one of them burnouts.
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You know, comes back busting guys up,
getting high.
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And I ain't a bum.
I keep a house. I pay my way.
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Hey. I ain't judging, man.
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Look, I punch in and out.
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I put on a suit in the morning.
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And being honest,
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I don't have much of a life.
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So why? Why punch in?
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Why the suit? Why...
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I don't ask myself
questions like that.
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Could be I'm too chickenshit,
Mr. Woodard.
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It ain't my world.
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Less than yours, even.
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But I did pretty good
at following orders.
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Now...
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You ever do this?
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I miss when "Don't get killed"
was the only thing on my to-do list.
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It's hard to unplug from that.
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I spent a year coming down.
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Just to go back over it,
you sure you didn't see anything?
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I told you.
I saw the teenagers out there, too.
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I was going in the other direction.
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You like kids, generally?
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Do...
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What the fuck's
the right answer to that?
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You think I...
Listen, I got two kids, okay?
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Where are they?
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I don't know. She didn't tell me.
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And I haven't gone looking.
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If I'd never left,
I think it'd have been fine.
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But to go, and come back...
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I just couldn't put myself
back in that old story, that's all.
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And I couldn't leave it, either.
You know?
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You ever been someplace
you couldn't leave,
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and you couldn't stay,
both at the same time?
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Do you remember the place?
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I remember.
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I can tell you all
that none of us will rest
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until we achieve justice
in the matter.
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Our detectives are hard at work,
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and this is priority one
for law enforcement
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in Washington County
and Northwest Arkansas.
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Now, it's temporary,
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but we're gonna have to
have a curfew for a little while.
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It's important that we keep
an eye on our kids right now,
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and we want to make sure
you know where they are at all times,
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and that they're indoors by 8:00.
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Now, we can't really say
too much about the investigation,
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but I'm here to answer
any questions I can.
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Well, I don't let mine
go near Devil's Den.
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Everybody knows you got
something happening in it.
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Bums, junkies.
Queers meet up out there.
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You have a question, sir?
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I wanna know what y'all are doing
to break up that stuff.
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Clean up that park!
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What about these junkies?
You got heroin in Arkansas now.
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Right now, our focus is trying
to find this little girl
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and bring her home.
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We're considering every possibility.
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And what about that fella
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always digging through
everybody's trash?
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Mr. Kindt, can you tell us
if they think the girl is still alive?
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It's our hope that she's alive, yes.
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But again, I really can't discuss
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any of the details
of the investigation.
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Now, our detectives
have a pair of Xeroxes to pass out.
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One is a picture of Julie Purcell.
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The other is the kind of backpack
that the boy, Will, had.
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It's red and has his name on it.
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Now, if anyone has any information
of potential interest,
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no matter how far afield,
share it with us.
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And trust that we will not
let this terrible,
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cowardly act go unpunished.
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Your old boss got real vocal
around then.
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Gerald Kindt had an election
coming up the next year.
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I know.
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Guess that works
to some point in your petition.
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It's worth noting,
I think, his motivations.
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Well, now he's fucking
State Attorney General.
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But we didn't work for him.
He was your boss.
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Oh, not for a good while now.
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The broken neck is clear.
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But the way the arms were folded...
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- I know.
- And the other thing.
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- The hell are those dolls for?
- Correct. Look familiar, some way.
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Like the kind of thing
at country fairs.
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What do you get
from that crowd in there?
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They're worried.
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Could be thinking
it could have been a neighbor.
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Had them sign in.
Saw some shifty eyes in there,
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but may be my redneck radar.
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I don't know.
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Excuse me.
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- Hi.
- Hey.
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You found him, didn't you?
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You look like you haven't
slept in a couple days.
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Work to do. How's it at school?
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Sad.
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People are scared.
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Uh...
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Been asking about this.
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We haven't gotten anything.
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I don't know,
you knowing the kids and such.
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You ever seen anything like this?
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Seen a kid with a doll like this?
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Uh, maybe. I don't know.
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But looks like something you'd find
in a craft store or something.
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I haven't seen
any of the kids with them.
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Can I keep this?
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Uh, sure.
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I'll ask around with the kids,
maybe check with the other teachers.
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All right. Thanks.
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Uh...
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Amelia.
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- Okay, I gotta go.
- All right.
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Be safe.
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Now, this family,
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haven't we spent enough time
with this?
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It's helping me.
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Bringing things back.
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How's that?
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Your mother.
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I, um...
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I have trouble seeing her sometimes.
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Or I know who she is,
but the parts of our lives, pieces,
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I can't picture them.
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You think Mom wants you
to keep doing this?
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It's bringing things back,
going over the case.
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I'm remembering things.
My life. Your sister.
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You know when the last time
I saw Rebecca?
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Mom's funeral?
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I think you talked
on the phone a few months back.
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You sure you wanna
keep talking to the TV people?
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That woman, the director,
I wanna know what she's after.
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What they might know now.
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She said she'd, uh, show me something
next time.
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She's baiting you, Dad.
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Do you think she cares at all
about you or who did it?
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She just wants people
to watch her shitty show.
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And I think
Mom would want you to move on.
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Enjoy the family you have around you.
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Well,
she and I always had different ideas.
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I remember that.
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Wayne. Roland.
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Special Agents Burt Diller
and John Bowen.
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Thanks, Detective.
We'll get these back ASAP.
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Want you to know we have no intention
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of impeding or usurping
your investigation.
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This is a Task Force.
One unit with a common goal.
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Feds are gonna take the lead
with the kidnapping.
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You two are still point
on the death investigation.
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Both of which will hopefully
lead to the same solution.
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Everybody shares everything.
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We'll be doing debriefs
first thing every morning.
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Everybody turns in dailies.
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How you guys wanna go forward?
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We got a multi-state APB
out on the girl.
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Checkpoints along state lines.
Agents advised.
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Let's get caught up.
We'll figure our next move.
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Time?
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You two have somewhere to be?
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We got a funeral to get to.
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I know we spoke on the phone,
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but we want to touch base
on a couple of things.
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What's that?
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I haven't been out here
since last May.
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You stayed
in the boy Will's room, right?
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Yeah. Told you I did.
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Leave a couple magazines behind?
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Under the mattress?
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Damn. Yeah, maybe I did.
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Uh, should I...
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Never mind.
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You recall anything from the time
you spent in the house
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might be worth mentioning?
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Like, you ever see anybody
talking to the kids?
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Any adults you didn't recognize?
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Nah. Nah.
Can't say I recall anything like that.
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Them kids, they kept
to themselves a lot, you know.
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The house was a pretty tense place.
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I mean, you can probably tell,
Lucy and Tom, they aren't real happy.
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Before any of this.
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Will and Julie,
they play outside the house a lot?
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Yeah. I think so.
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I don't think they liked
being around there.
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You know, Mom and Dad
angry all the time.
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Were you pretty close
to Will and Julie?
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I don't know. We got along.
I played with them a couple times.
253
00:18:00,037 --> 00:18:02,120
They didn't see me much
before I stayed here.
254
00:18:02,498 --> 00:18:03,739
But they were good kids.
255
00:18:04,458 --> 00:18:05,539
What do you think of Tom?
256
00:18:09,130 --> 00:18:10,462
He's an all right guy.
257
00:18:11,924 --> 00:18:15,634
I feel sorry for him.
I felt for him even before all this.
258
00:18:18,139 --> 00:18:19,630
I mean, in my opinion,
259
00:18:20,224 --> 00:18:22,557
Lucy always needed,
like, a strong male.
260
00:18:25,896 --> 00:18:27,307
Staying in town long?
261
00:18:27,982 --> 00:18:29,848
Nah, I gotta get back to work.
262
00:18:31,152 --> 00:18:33,064
Family could probably use you around.
263
00:18:33,154 --> 00:18:34,690
I can't get the time off.
264
00:18:35,239 --> 00:18:37,105
It's not like there's a lot
I can do for them.
265
00:18:37,783 --> 00:18:38,990
And the night of?
266
00:18:39,535 --> 00:18:41,618
Your neighbor can confirm
you were at home?
267
00:18:45,833 --> 00:18:47,199
I don't know if they can or not.
268
00:18:47,918 --> 00:18:50,285
But you could check
with the Starlight Bar in Springfield.
269
00:18:50,671 --> 00:18:52,037
I had a couple there after work,
270
00:18:52,131 --> 00:18:54,248
and then I went home
and watched CHiPs.
271
00:18:55,217 --> 00:18:58,585
- You wanna search my place?
- Would that be okay?
272
00:19:01,098 --> 00:19:02,098
Sure.
273
00:19:03,601 --> 00:19:07,390
But maybe you should be out there
trying to find my niece.
274
00:19:11,317 --> 00:19:12,728
I'm gonna get back to Lucy.
275
00:19:19,825 --> 00:19:21,487
Like we said over the phone,
276
00:19:22,411 --> 00:19:25,995
we hadn't seen or talked
with the kids since last Christmas.
277
00:19:26,916 --> 00:19:28,703
Nearly a year ago.
278
00:19:30,753 --> 00:19:33,541
- She doesn't like us.
- That's Lucy, you mean?
279
00:19:33,923 --> 00:19:35,710
Eloise, let's don't, now.
280
00:19:36,300 --> 00:19:37,416
Why not now?
281
00:19:37,843 --> 00:19:40,426
Why not just say it?
The children are lost.
282
00:19:41,806 --> 00:19:45,299
Yes, I mean Lucy.
She runs around on Tom, you know.
283
00:19:45,685 --> 00:19:47,722
Every marriage has its own story.
284
00:19:48,354 --> 00:19:50,220
Nobody knows except the two involved.
285
00:19:50,314 --> 00:19:51,896
Bull. She was a terrible...
286
00:19:54,568 --> 00:19:58,232
You know, there's been
some wondering about Julie.
287
00:19:58,698 --> 00:20:00,234
Don't. Not today.
288
00:20:00,324 --> 00:20:01,656
Tom was working offshore.
289
00:20:02,076 --> 00:20:04,693
Could have been welding in Texas
when Julie was conceived.
290
00:20:04,787 --> 00:20:06,870
- Now, I've wondered...
- God damn it!
291
00:20:08,791 --> 00:20:11,750
Not today, Eloise. Not today.
292
00:20:15,881 --> 00:20:16,881
Hey.
293
00:20:19,301 --> 00:20:21,884
Why don't the two of y'all
get out of my house for today?
294
00:20:24,181 --> 00:20:25,672
Mom, Dad.
295
00:20:42,283 --> 00:20:44,603
Yeah, I got it now.
296
00:20:44,702 --> 00:20:45,742
There's a web forum
297
00:20:45,786 --> 00:20:47,778
that posts
about real-life criminal cases,
298
00:20:47,872 --> 00:20:50,239
things that are unsolved
or unresolved.
299
00:20:50,583 --> 00:20:52,383
They have a whole section
on the Purcell case.
300
00:20:57,715 --> 00:20:59,047
This is what people do now?
301
00:21:01,761 --> 00:21:03,241
They go in lots of directions.
302
00:21:04,388 --> 00:21:06,425
Did you know at various times since,
303
00:21:06,515 --> 00:21:08,928
large-scale pedophile rings
connected to people of influence
304
00:21:09,018 --> 00:21:10,930
were uncovered in
the surrounding areas?
305
00:21:11,020 --> 00:21:13,012
Do you know about
the Franklin scandal?
306
00:21:15,316 --> 00:21:16,727
No.
307
00:21:16,984 --> 00:21:18,544
It's been theorized
that the straw dolls
308
00:21:18,652 --> 00:21:21,486
are a sign of pedophile groups,
like the crooked spiral.
309
00:21:22,531 --> 00:21:24,113
I don't think that's right.
310
00:21:28,537 --> 00:21:32,451
Can I ask, with what happened in 1990
and you leaving the force,
311
00:21:33,042 --> 00:21:34,999
did you ever feel
your leads and theories
312
00:21:35,085 --> 00:21:36,701
were discounted because of your race?
313
00:21:38,297 --> 00:21:41,415
Not particularly. No, why?
314
00:21:42,051 --> 00:21:43,792
I'm interested
in the intersectionality
315
00:21:43,886 --> 00:21:44,967
of marginalized groups
316
00:21:45,054 --> 00:21:47,512
within authoritarian
and systemic racist structures.
317
00:21:54,814 --> 00:21:57,101
Anyways, those dolls from the scene,
318
00:21:57,191 --> 00:21:58,351
they were a significant lead.
319
00:21:59,151 --> 00:22:02,861
Amelia. She's the one
helped us out with that.
320
00:22:03,405 --> 00:22:04,646
Got us that lead.
321
00:22:14,583 --> 00:22:17,166
Have you seen a doll
that looks like this?
322
00:22:17,378 --> 00:22:18,378
No.
323
00:22:18,754 --> 00:22:19,835
Not you?
324
00:22:20,130 --> 00:22:22,167
Okay, well, you let me know
if you do, okay?
325
00:22:36,397 --> 00:22:39,936
Mike, have you seen this doll before?
326
00:22:42,194 --> 00:22:43,194
Halloween.
327
00:22:44,780 --> 00:22:48,899
Somebody was passing them out
at trick-or-treat, I think.
328
00:22:50,953 --> 00:22:53,411
Julie, she got one.
329
00:22:54,665 --> 00:22:57,624
This Halloween you went
trick-or-treating with her?
330
00:22:58,961 --> 00:23:02,375
We met her and her brother
and... And some other kids.
331
00:23:03,507 --> 00:23:05,499
We live on the next street over.
332
00:23:09,221 --> 00:23:10,257
It's okay.
333
00:23:30,910 --> 00:23:31,910
Tom?
334
00:23:33,287 --> 00:23:35,244
Tom! Tom!
335
00:23:37,041 --> 00:23:40,000
Hey, what you doing
back up here, brother?
336
00:23:40,336 --> 00:23:43,704
Talking about?
This is my usual shift. Four years.
337
00:23:54,725 --> 00:23:57,763
What's your fucking problem?
My dick showing?
338
00:24:03,233 --> 00:24:04,233
Hey, Tom.
339
00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:07,151
You sure you wanna be back
at work today?
340
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,899
I've been working full-time
since I was 14 years old.
341
00:24:13,869 --> 00:24:16,577
You want me to sit at home
with this shit in my head now?
342
00:24:22,002 --> 00:24:23,355
How long
are you motherfuckers
343
00:24:23,379 --> 00:24:24,379
gonna stare at me?
344
00:24:25,923 --> 00:24:29,542
Somebody got something
to say about me? My family?
345
00:24:30,427 --> 00:24:32,134
Huh? Somebody know
something I don't...
346
00:24:32,221 --> 00:24:34,588
Tom? Hi.
347
00:24:36,266 --> 00:24:38,553
We didn't plan on
having you back this soon.
348
00:24:38,644 --> 00:24:40,135
Well, I gotta earn a living.
349
00:24:40,938 --> 00:24:45,649
Well, the thing is,
we, uh... We put you on leave.
350
00:24:46,527 --> 00:24:48,143
Well, I didn't ask for that, okay?
351
00:24:48,237 --> 00:24:50,274
Now, I gotta work.
You telling me I can't work?
352
00:24:51,865 --> 00:24:54,608
Look, with everything
that's happening,
353
00:24:54,702 --> 00:24:55,738
it's a little disruptive.
354
00:24:57,371 --> 00:24:58,891
People have other things
on their mind.
355
00:24:59,832 --> 00:25:01,039
These machines.
356
00:25:01,709 --> 00:25:04,122
That's how accidents happen.
You know that, Tom.
357
00:25:06,505 --> 00:25:08,622
I'm the guy
nobody wants to be, huh?
358
00:25:12,636 --> 00:25:14,218
I'm a fucking joke, right?
359
00:25:16,140 --> 00:25:17,802
You shouldn't look at it like that.
360
00:25:18,851 --> 00:25:21,138
But you ain't coming back
to work right now, Tom.
361
00:25:26,442 --> 00:25:28,183
Well, fuck everything, anyway!
362
00:25:29,236 --> 00:25:32,820
Yeah, fuck each of you! I quit!
363
00:25:39,288 --> 00:25:41,450
You remember which house
was giving these out?
364
00:25:44,460 --> 00:25:45,667
Who else got one?
365
00:25:50,424 --> 00:25:54,134
Mike, did you see her get the doll?
366
00:25:56,513 --> 00:25:57,513
No, ma'am.
367
00:25:58,390 --> 00:25:59,847
When did you see she had it?
368
00:26:00,768 --> 00:26:02,009
It was like at the end.
369
00:26:02,853 --> 00:26:04,344
We were all showing what we got,
370
00:26:05,022 --> 00:26:07,355
and she had the doll
in her trick-or-treat bag.
371
00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:10,688
Did you stay in the neighborhood,
or did you drive somewhere?
372
00:26:11,487 --> 00:26:12,694
We just walked.
373
00:26:15,908 --> 00:26:18,446
Thanks, Mike. You're really helping.
374
00:26:20,537 --> 00:26:23,245
Hey. What'd you go as for Halloween?
375
00:26:23,916 --> 00:26:25,032
Luke Skywalker.
376
00:26:25,459 --> 00:26:29,669
Cool, man.
My partner, he loved that movie.
377
00:26:47,564 --> 00:26:48,564
Say, uh,
378
00:26:50,776 --> 00:26:52,816
were you with Julie and her brother
the whole night?
379
00:26:53,612 --> 00:26:56,650
Or was there ever a time
y'all went different ways?
380
00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,200
Yeah.
381
00:27:00,077 --> 00:27:02,034
They'd been to a couple houses
before we met up.
382
00:27:02,579 --> 00:27:05,162
But I don't think
she had the doll then.
383
00:27:06,250 --> 00:27:07,536
How about the rest of the night?
384
00:27:08,919 --> 00:27:10,660
We might have split up once or twice.
385
00:27:12,131 --> 00:27:14,373
But not for long.
386
00:27:15,551 --> 00:27:18,589
I saw her talking to people.
Adults, maybe.
387
00:27:20,681 --> 00:27:23,594
They were two ghosts.
Just in big sheets.
388
00:27:26,186 --> 00:27:27,677
You don't know who the ghosts were?
389
00:27:31,483 --> 00:27:33,190
Can you show us
where it was y'all went?
390
00:27:36,363 --> 00:27:37,363
Here.
391
00:28:19,489 --> 00:28:21,151
You must have had some good times.
392
00:28:22,701 --> 00:28:23,817
When y'all meet?
393
00:28:26,246 --> 00:28:27,737
Thirteen years back.
394
00:28:29,208 --> 00:28:31,165
We got married
'cause she was pregnant.
395
00:28:34,129 --> 00:28:35,745
How long you knew her before?
396
00:28:37,007 --> 00:28:38,123
Not long.
397
00:28:40,302 --> 00:28:42,339
Got married three months after we met.
398
00:28:43,597 --> 00:28:45,338
The Fort Smith courthouse.
399
00:28:47,142 --> 00:28:48,474
Me and Lucy,
400
00:28:48,727 --> 00:28:51,014
we never really knew each other,
we just...
401
00:28:52,314 --> 00:28:53,680
Well, had the kids.
402
00:28:59,863 --> 00:29:01,445
My kids. Will and...
403
00:29:15,921 --> 00:29:17,958
Are we gonna find Julie, or what?
404
00:29:20,634 --> 00:29:22,466
'Cause I can't live through this, man.
405
00:29:24,930 --> 00:29:26,216
Neither of us can.
406
00:29:30,185 --> 00:29:33,144
If we're not gonna find her,
I just need to know now.
407
00:29:39,027 --> 00:29:40,563
I can't go to sleep,
408
00:29:43,448 --> 00:29:44,734
and I can't wake up.
409
00:29:49,371 --> 00:29:51,363
Now, you're saying
last week, Halloween,
410
00:29:51,665 --> 00:29:53,031
girl got one of these dolls,
411
00:29:53,125 --> 00:29:55,085
and then you found two of them
at the crime scene?
412
00:29:55,335 --> 00:29:56,792
It's an identifier, boss.
413
00:29:57,421 --> 00:29:58,707
So what do you want to do?
414
00:29:59,172 --> 00:30:02,586
We wondered, maybe
let's put it out on the TV or paper.
415
00:30:03,468 --> 00:30:05,710
Ask everybody
if they seen one of those,
416
00:30:05,804 --> 00:30:07,261
or know who makes them around here.
417
00:30:07,848 --> 00:30:10,465
But that'd tip our hand.
We're not ready for that.
418
00:30:11,268 --> 00:30:12,304
What's better...
419
00:30:12,394 --> 00:30:15,057
There's 114 households
in the marked area
420
00:30:15,147 --> 00:30:16,683
and the subdivision near it.
421
00:30:16,773 --> 00:30:18,139
We do total surveillance.
422
00:30:18,650 --> 00:30:20,733
We have people searching
every single house.
423
00:30:21,403 --> 00:30:24,111
Oh, come on. You don't have enough
for one warrant, much less 100.
424
00:30:24,448 --> 00:30:28,032
No warrants.
Say, two days, maybe three.
425
00:30:28,785 --> 00:30:29,821
Every detective we have.
426
00:30:30,495 --> 00:30:31,827
Pull in more Feds, you want.
427
00:30:32,539 --> 00:30:34,781
Everybody just knocks
and asks if they can search.
428
00:30:35,375 --> 00:30:36,957
Say it'll help with the Purcell case.
429
00:30:37,836 --> 00:30:41,204
People won't like it,
but a lot, I bet...
430
00:30:42,382 --> 00:30:43,782
A lot of people let us look around.
431
00:30:44,343 --> 00:30:45,584
We keep surveillance.
432
00:30:46,178 --> 00:30:47,885
See if somebody starts acting hinky.
433
00:30:48,472 --> 00:30:50,714
Nobody escapes the net.
Our guy panics or something,
434
00:30:51,183 --> 00:30:53,391
we do it fast, without announcement.
435
00:30:53,477 --> 00:30:56,515
Even if you find anything,
it could be problematic at trial.
436
00:30:56,938 --> 00:30:59,098
This is about the girl, not a trial.
437
00:30:59,941 --> 00:31:01,941
Something happened
on Halloween, that night.
438
00:31:02,235 --> 00:31:03,601
She gets that doll.
439
00:31:04,071 --> 00:31:05,858
A week later,
she and her brother are gone,
440
00:31:05,947 --> 00:31:07,859
and you got two of those things
on the scene.
441
00:31:07,949 --> 00:31:09,949
Maybe the perp's
just brought them somewhere.
442
00:31:10,077 --> 00:31:12,444
You know?
Maybe the dolls belonged to the girl.
443
00:31:12,537 --> 00:31:13,697
It's all maybes, man.
444
00:31:14,373 --> 00:31:15,893
You do the maybe
that gives you a shot.
445
00:31:16,208 --> 00:31:17,208
No, it's thin.
446
00:31:18,377 --> 00:31:19,584
I mean, our constituents here,
447
00:31:19,669 --> 00:31:22,082
they value privacy
and property rights.
448
00:31:22,672 --> 00:31:26,131
They aren't just gonna acquiesce
to random searches of their homes.
449
00:31:28,220 --> 00:31:29,756
There's other ways to approach it.
450
00:31:31,056 --> 00:31:33,159
If we bring in the public,
it stirs up the town
451
00:31:33,183 --> 00:31:34,924
and lets our guy know
what we're thinking.
452
00:31:35,352 --> 00:31:36,352
Maybe he takes off.
453
00:31:36,436 --> 00:31:38,473
Maybe he just kills her,
if he hasn't already.
454
00:31:40,857 --> 00:31:42,223
We can just do it fast.
455
00:31:43,568 --> 00:31:44,854
People will get over it.
456
00:31:48,615 --> 00:31:49,615
Warren.
457
00:31:50,283 --> 00:31:51,990
Just give us some time, Roland.
458
00:32:18,145 --> 00:32:19,852
Been running this sting.
459
00:32:19,938 --> 00:32:22,225
Truck stop next door.
Prosts and drugs.
460
00:32:22,983 --> 00:32:25,316
I was gonna check this guy out
at some point.
461
00:32:25,819 --> 00:32:29,813
He asked one of the working girls
if they had any younger friends.
462
00:32:29,906 --> 00:32:32,023
And another said he asked her, too.
463
00:32:32,826 --> 00:32:35,489
Came in here looking
for special magazines.
464
00:32:36,496 --> 00:32:38,328
Ted LaGrange. Pulled his file.
465
00:32:39,332 --> 00:32:41,073
He got outta Wrightsville
a while back.
466
00:32:41,168 --> 00:32:45,708
Carnal knowledge of a minor.
Enticing a minor. Bunch of shit.
467
00:32:48,425 --> 00:32:51,543
Calling himself
"Robert" something now.
468
00:32:52,637 --> 00:32:53,718
Thanks, Rich.
469
00:32:56,892 --> 00:33:00,852
Man, you gotta come in here every day?
470
00:33:03,523 --> 00:33:04,764
Welcome to Vice.
471
00:33:32,093 --> 00:33:33,834
I haven't seen you here before,
have I?
472
00:33:34,971 --> 00:33:36,803
I'm usually at the VFW.
473
00:33:40,769 --> 00:33:43,129
Want to thank you for everything
you did today with the kid.
474
00:33:45,023 --> 00:33:46,980
He wasn't talking to us
till you opened him up.
475
00:33:48,777 --> 00:33:50,018
Real grateful for that.
476
00:33:51,738 --> 00:33:52,979
He was broken up about it.
477
00:33:54,783 --> 00:33:56,399
I think he had a crush on Julie.
478
00:33:59,496 --> 00:34:01,112
Why'd you give me that picture?
479
00:34:02,290 --> 00:34:03,290
The doll.
480
00:34:04,042 --> 00:34:05,203
Instinct, I guess.
481
00:34:06,836 --> 00:34:08,623
I knew the kids weren't talking to us.
482
00:34:11,258 --> 00:34:12,374
You were in the war?
483
00:34:15,595 --> 00:34:16,881
You're a cop,
484
00:34:16,972 --> 00:34:18,884
so you want to know
more about a person,
485
00:34:18,974 --> 00:34:20,055
you just look them up, huh?
486
00:34:20,976 --> 00:34:22,057
Pretty much.
487
00:34:23,395 --> 00:34:24,602
Did you look me up?
488
00:34:29,901 --> 00:34:30,982
Thought about it, though.
489
00:34:38,201 --> 00:34:39,317
I was born here.
490
00:34:40,620 --> 00:34:41,827
I went to U of A.
491
00:34:43,415 --> 00:34:45,202
Dropped out my junior year.
492
00:34:46,376 --> 00:34:47,833
Went west with a friend.
493
00:34:48,878 --> 00:34:50,460
We got in with some people.
494
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,792
I was in this scene, San Francisco.
495
00:34:55,218 --> 00:34:59,303
Anti-war,
kind of fringe Panther stuff.
496
00:35:01,308 --> 00:35:03,675
Some things happened, not good.
497
00:35:05,103 --> 00:35:06,435
And then I was alone.
498
00:35:07,814 --> 00:35:10,807
'74, I came back home, got my degree.
499
00:35:17,157 --> 00:35:18,568
I grew up in Conway.
500
00:35:20,285 --> 00:35:21,742
My mom worked on a farm.
501
00:35:23,496 --> 00:35:25,032
I spent two years in the jungle.
502
00:35:26,333 --> 00:35:27,824
A lot of it I was alone.
503
00:35:30,128 --> 00:35:33,371
I hunt a lot now. Alone.
504
00:35:34,883 --> 00:35:36,124
I'm a vegetarian.
505
00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:38,842
That's a real shame.
506
00:35:40,597 --> 00:35:42,213
If you're a Democrat, don't tell me.
507
00:35:46,645 --> 00:35:47,726
You like teaching?
508
00:35:49,898 --> 00:35:50,934
Sometimes.
509
00:35:53,026 --> 00:35:54,358
I want to be a writer.
510
00:35:56,279 --> 00:35:57,360
Write books.
511
00:35:59,366 --> 00:36:00,732
I don't read enough.
512
00:36:01,993 --> 00:36:04,076
I like Batman and Silver Surfer.
513
00:36:06,122 --> 00:36:09,115
I had this sort of
dyslexic thing growing up.
514
00:36:10,543 --> 00:36:11,659
Was that hard?
515
00:36:12,629 --> 00:36:13,870
They said I was dumb.
516
00:36:15,507 --> 00:36:17,043
My mom wasn't having any of that.
517
00:36:20,887 --> 00:36:24,051
That poem you were teaching,
I looked it up.
518
00:36:24,432 --> 00:36:26,298
- Oh, yeah?
- I read it.
519
00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:30,102
I'm not ready to talk about it yet,
but I have thoughts.
520
00:36:32,232 --> 00:36:34,098
- Share when you want.
- All right.
521
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,561
You ever been married?
522
00:36:39,572 --> 00:36:40,572
No.
523
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,316
You?
524
00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:45,951
I was engaged. Seven months.
525
00:36:47,664 --> 00:36:48,871
I broke it off.
526
00:36:49,416 --> 00:36:51,282
I didn't want to be married,
I realized.
527
00:36:52,711 --> 00:36:55,328
- I don't wanna get married.
- No?
528
00:36:58,216 --> 00:37:00,299
Guy the other day
said I must be crazy.
529
00:37:02,178 --> 00:37:05,671
Thing is, and I've thought
of this for a while,
530
00:37:07,684 --> 00:37:08,970
I think I might be.
531
00:37:10,603 --> 00:37:11,639
Like how?
532
00:37:17,610 --> 00:37:19,943
I wear clip-on ties
'cause I'm preoccupied
533
00:37:20,029 --> 00:37:22,316
with this idea
of getting strangled with one.
534
00:37:25,660 --> 00:37:26,696
Is that too much?
535
00:37:30,623 --> 00:37:32,785
This year, twice,
536
00:37:33,501 --> 00:37:36,994
I've been to St. Louis,
and I've stayed at this hotel,
537
00:37:37,630 --> 00:37:39,337
and I've pretended I'm someone else.
538
00:37:40,842 --> 00:37:44,586
I go out, meet new people,
and I am someone else.
539
00:37:45,054 --> 00:37:48,638
Different name,
different background, different job.
540
00:37:49,392 --> 00:37:50,392
Twice.
541
00:37:59,569 --> 00:38:00,685
You drink too much?
542
00:38:02,447 --> 00:38:03,528
I don't know.
543
00:38:05,033 --> 00:38:06,820
I might get drunk twice a month.
544
00:38:08,953 --> 00:38:09,989
Three times.
545
00:38:11,748 --> 00:38:13,330
I like to laugh, is the thing.
546
00:38:16,753 --> 00:38:19,211
Hey. Raise it up.
547
00:38:20,048 --> 00:38:22,040
Hurry. Quick.
548
00:38:24,302 --> 00:38:26,840
...information
in the Purcell murder-kidnapping,
549
00:38:27,180 --> 00:38:29,923
we go to the Washington County
courthouse earlier this afternoon.
550
00:38:30,016 --> 00:38:31,132
Don't do it.
551
00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:33,120
We believe the missing girl,
552
00:38:33,144 --> 00:38:36,228
Julie Purcell,
was contacted by her abductor
553
00:38:36,314 --> 00:38:38,601
while she participated
in Halloween last week.
554
00:38:39,818 --> 00:38:41,980
We're sharing a graphic of the area
555
00:38:42,070 --> 00:38:43,990
where she and her brother
went trick-or-treating.
556
00:38:44,864 --> 00:38:46,571
Now, our investigation suggests
557
00:38:46,658 --> 00:38:49,742
that someone who saw her on Halloween
has special knowledge of this case.
558
00:38:50,620 --> 00:38:51,827
Giving it away.
559
00:38:51,913 --> 00:38:53,779
Anyone who saw
anything suspicious...
560
00:38:53,873 --> 00:38:56,115
- What's wrong?
- I'm sorry. I...
561
00:38:56,793 --> 00:38:59,331
I gotta go. God damn it.
562
00:38:59,963 --> 00:39:02,283
Are you saying the children
knew their kidnapper?
563
00:39:02,465 --> 00:39:05,879
I'm not at liberty to, uh,
reveal that at this time. Thank you.
564
00:39:09,681 --> 00:39:11,281
I knew
they wouldn't listen to me.
565
00:39:12,475 --> 00:39:13,932
But you should have stopped that.
566
00:39:15,103 --> 00:39:18,437
Me? What am I supposed to do?
567
00:39:19,065 --> 00:39:20,146
You were there.
568
00:39:20,525 --> 00:39:23,313
I'm saying, I talk,
it don't mean anything.
569
00:39:23,862 --> 00:39:25,228
Don't matter if I'm right.
570
00:39:26,155 --> 00:39:29,148
You, at least, you talk,
it means something to them.
571
00:39:29,242 --> 00:39:30,699
Might consider what you're saying.
572
00:39:30,785 --> 00:39:32,221
You might have stopped them
from doing that.
573
00:39:32,245 --> 00:39:35,204
Bullshit.
Who knew until it was on the TV?
574
00:39:35,540 --> 00:39:36,656
Why didn't you stop them?
575
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,368
They ain't my tribe, man.
Take care of your shit.
576
00:39:40,461 --> 00:39:42,828
Tribe?
Where you think you are, asshole?
577
00:39:43,172 --> 00:39:45,960
- I know where I am.
- Do you? It don't sound like it.
578
00:39:46,634 --> 00:39:48,915
Son, I know where I am in a way
you will never understand.
579
00:39:49,804 --> 00:39:51,136
Are you high, "Purple" Hays?
580
00:39:51,681 --> 00:39:53,764
'Cause you're making
about as much goddamn sense
581
00:39:53,850 --> 00:39:55,307
as my grandmother's dementia.
582
00:39:55,393 --> 00:39:56,759
No, I'm saying I know where I am.
583
00:39:56,853 --> 00:39:58,185
Hey, good for you.
584
00:40:26,674 --> 00:40:28,165
Was all I could think of.
585
00:40:31,471 --> 00:40:32,587
You got something else?
586
00:40:35,308 --> 00:40:38,051
Vice gave me a dude
near Fort Smith to look at.
587
00:40:38,978 --> 00:40:40,344
I pulled his file.
588
00:40:42,607 --> 00:40:43,607
What is it?
589
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:50,612
You can read for yourself.
590
00:41:03,670 --> 00:41:04,831
You wanna go get him?
591
00:41:08,383 --> 00:41:09,624
I wanna go get him.
592
00:41:11,970 --> 00:41:13,927
We might as well keep watch out here.
593
00:41:15,807 --> 00:41:17,343
Check the guy out in the morning.
594
00:41:18,017 --> 00:41:19,428
Toss his place first.
595
00:41:28,277 --> 00:41:29,688
We should get bennies.
596
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:33,606
Staying up all night.
597
00:41:36,285 --> 00:41:38,948
Glove box. Red and blue ones.
598
00:41:42,291 --> 00:41:43,907
Prosecuting attorney decided
599
00:41:45,044 --> 00:41:50,039
best thing was to take our single clue
and spread it all over the town.
600
00:41:52,593 --> 00:41:55,256
And that got us a few hundred
false tips the first couple of days.
601
00:41:56,055 --> 00:41:57,887
That's when it all started
with the town.
602
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:00,100
Just panic.
603
00:42:06,482 --> 00:42:08,815
Lived in their
imaginations now, you see?
604
00:42:28,713 --> 00:42:30,045
Everybody was scared.
605
00:42:32,050 --> 00:42:33,166
That included us.
606
00:42:51,235 --> 00:42:52,235
Hi.
607
00:42:54,030 --> 00:42:55,030
Morning.
608
00:43:02,497 --> 00:43:03,533
You gonna eat?
609
00:43:08,086 --> 00:43:09,202
Me neither.
610
00:43:12,757 --> 00:43:14,498
We need you to come with us, sir.
611
00:43:17,929 --> 00:43:20,421
- What's the...
- We'll tell you on the way.
612
00:43:22,850 --> 00:43:24,057
No! Please!
613
00:43:25,895 --> 00:43:27,557
No, it's not me, I swear to God!
614
00:43:29,023 --> 00:43:31,766
You're wrong about this.
You shouldn't have brought me here.
615
00:43:32,485 --> 00:43:34,067
This get you off, mister, huh?
616
00:43:34,946 --> 00:43:37,279
You entertain fantasies
of strapping white men to posts?
617
00:43:39,283 --> 00:43:41,366
- Now and then, yeah.
- Really?
618
00:43:44,914 --> 00:43:46,246
Talk about your fantasies.
619
00:43:46,916 --> 00:43:48,202
Then he'll tell you his.
620
00:43:48,876 --> 00:43:50,037
Theodore LaGrange.
621
00:43:51,420 --> 00:43:52,456
It's Ted, yeah?
622
00:43:54,090 --> 00:43:55,672
Ted, you been out
a bit over two years.
623
00:43:56,384 --> 00:43:57,384
I haven't done anything.
624
00:43:57,468 --> 00:43:59,196
I know what you're doing,
and I haven't done anything.
625
00:43:59,220 --> 00:44:00,300
Released from Wrightsville.
626
00:44:01,514 --> 00:44:05,224
You got Little Rock up the road.
Why'd you come way out here, Ted?
627
00:44:07,854 --> 00:44:09,720
And why are you calling yourself
Robert Hebert?
628
00:44:10,773 --> 00:44:12,810
I...
I wanted a new start.
629
00:44:13,401 --> 00:44:15,441
They keep you in protective custody
in Wrightsville?
630
00:44:18,364 --> 00:44:19,364
Figured.
631
00:44:20,575 --> 00:44:22,191
Guys who mess with kids,
632
00:44:23,077 --> 00:44:25,285
they don't usually make it out
with all their parts.
633
00:44:25,663 --> 00:44:27,404
Tell me how you mess with kids.
634
00:44:28,291 --> 00:44:29,577
The boy and the girl.
635
00:44:29,917 --> 00:44:32,330
Your landlady said you
didn't come home last Friday night.
636
00:44:32,420 --> 00:44:33,501
- What?
- The 7th.
637
00:44:34,255 --> 00:44:37,214
That's not... I was out.
I was just out.
638
00:44:37,550 --> 00:44:39,831
Help me understand what it was like
for you in the moment.
639
00:44:40,052 --> 00:44:42,635
Let me feel your side of it. Okay?
640
00:44:43,764 --> 00:44:45,926
- Tell me why you killed the boy.
- I didn't!
641
00:44:46,434 --> 00:44:48,266
I never seen him
before he was on the news.
642
00:44:53,149 --> 00:44:55,687
You'll wanna explain to me
where you were that night.
643
00:44:58,237 --> 00:44:59,728
Help me see your side of things.
644
00:45:01,991 --> 00:45:03,911
What'd you do on Halloween night?
Where were you?
645
00:45:07,872 --> 00:45:08,872
Well,
646
00:45:10,625 --> 00:45:12,912
we're here to listen
when you want to share.
647
00:45:39,904 --> 00:45:42,362
Yes. He's here Mondays and Fridays.
648
00:45:42,740 --> 00:45:45,107
We do story time twice a week
in the evenings,
649
00:45:45,201 --> 00:45:46,567
and he plays guitar for it.
650
00:45:46,953 --> 00:45:50,162
But his name's Robert Hebert,
not what you said.
651
00:45:50,498 --> 00:45:52,285
And he worked on the 7th? Last Friday?
652
00:45:52,625 --> 00:45:53,625
Yes, mmm-hmm.
653
00:45:54,293 --> 00:45:55,813
You know what time he left that night?
654
00:45:56,128 --> 00:45:57,494
Probably about 8:00 or after.
655
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,213
He helped us put up
the tables and chairs.
656
00:46:01,300 --> 00:46:02,586
Did he do something?
657
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,631
You're not gonna see this guy anymore.
658
00:46:07,598 --> 00:46:09,089
If you do, give us a call, okay?
659
00:46:15,940 --> 00:46:17,602
Robbery
was a couple of months ago.
660
00:46:17,692 --> 00:46:19,729
All I know for sure
is that her prints showed up.
661
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:22,652
It's like you said...
662
00:46:23,197 --> 00:46:26,281
They don't know if she was a customer
or part of the break-in.
663
00:46:26,742 --> 00:46:28,278
Was it a partial or a full?
664
00:46:29,161 --> 00:46:30,161
Full.
665
00:46:31,289 --> 00:46:32,496
It was her.
666
00:46:34,875 --> 00:46:36,457
They had video surveillance?
667
00:46:36,752 --> 00:46:38,493
Oh, they smashed the camera
in the pharmacy.
668
00:46:38,921 --> 00:46:41,129
Store's got footage
going back three days prior.
669
00:46:41,215 --> 00:46:43,628
We subpoenaed it, but we have to wait.
670
00:46:44,176 --> 00:46:46,338
Somebody watching the store
in case she comes back?
671
00:46:47,221 --> 00:46:50,134
My understanding,
Sallisaw PD's focused on the robbery.
672
00:46:50,641 --> 00:46:51,882
And I wouldn't say the locals
673
00:46:52,018 --> 00:46:55,307
are a crackerjack investigative team
or anything...
674
00:46:55,563 --> 00:46:56,804
So nothing.
675
00:46:57,189 --> 00:47:00,478
Man's family didn't have
the resources for an investigator.
676
00:47:01,944 --> 00:47:03,651
But obviously, we'd like to find her.
677
00:47:10,703 --> 00:47:13,286
What about Arkansas PD?
They looking for her?
678
00:47:13,873 --> 00:47:15,705
There's nobody on the case yet.
679
00:47:16,208 --> 00:47:17,790
Kindt's office will have to look at it
680
00:47:17,877 --> 00:47:19,837
since they'll be defending
our motion to overturn,
681
00:47:19,962 --> 00:47:21,999
but right now, no.
682
00:47:22,673 --> 00:47:23,789
I don't think so.
683
00:47:24,842 --> 00:47:26,754
You all right going up
against your old boss?
684
00:47:29,221 --> 00:47:30,462
It's overdue.
685
00:47:43,778 --> 00:47:44,894
Talk to Roland?
686
00:47:45,654 --> 00:47:47,065
We have an appointment.
687
00:47:48,824 --> 00:47:50,156
He's done well.
688
00:47:52,161 --> 00:47:53,161
He has.
689
00:48:14,558 --> 00:48:15,765
You wanna execute him?
690
00:48:16,060 --> 00:48:18,643
We can bury him right out here.
I don't give a shit.
691
00:48:19,772 --> 00:48:22,310
Throw him off a bridge...
Nobody'll care.
692
00:48:22,691 --> 00:48:24,808
Put him in holding,
693
00:48:24,902 --> 00:48:26,063
get his parole violated.
694
00:48:26,153 --> 00:48:27,689
He'll be back
in Wrightsville tomorrow.
695
00:48:28,030 --> 00:48:31,068
- Full sentence.
- If you say so.
696
00:48:31,826 --> 00:48:33,112
Talk shit about us...
697
00:48:33,869 --> 00:48:36,236
I'll have monstrous niggers
fuck him to death in his cell.
698
00:48:37,832 --> 00:48:41,325
Do you hear me, boy?
You will bleed black cock.
699
00:48:46,340 --> 00:48:49,174
Gotta catch up, man.
Just spent the day on this bullshit.
700
00:48:55,307 --> 00:48:59,017
That was a vivid description
of prison rape. Jesus.
701
00:48:59,478 --> 00:49:01,014
Could tell he had the racial thing.
702
00:49:01,522 --> 00:49:02,882
Remember what he said in the barn?
703
00:49:03,566 --> 00:49:05,979
Still, it's gonna haunt me.
704
00:49:11,490 --> 00:49:13,090
D-12, do you copy?
705
00:49:17,037 --> 00:49:18,037
Copy, dispatch.
706
00:49:19,123 --> 00:49:21,706
Lieutenant Twiggs wants y'all
at the Purcell place.
707
00:49:24,086 --> 00:49:25,086
What's up?
708
00:49:25,588 --> 00:49:27,329
Said the family got a note.
709
00:49:31,969 --> 00:49:34,006
Copy. On the way.
710
00:49:50,988 --> 00:49:52,854
- Hey, Dad.
- Hi.
711
00:50:16,347 --> 00:50:20,557
Hey. Hey.
Did you see? They sent me the galleys.
712
00:50:20,643 --> 00:50:21,724
That's great.
713
00:50:23,646 --> 00:50:25,308
You got a little loose after work?
714
00:50:27,191 --> 00:50:28,523
How was the deposition?
715
00:50:29,276 --> 00:50:30,312
It was fine.
716
00:50:39,954 --> 00:50:41,786
It's as much about us
as anything.
717
00:50:43,916 --> 00:50:45,623
And I think her and me,
718
00:50:47,086 --> 00:50:49,406
it was as close as she could give
the thing a happy ending.
719
00:50:52,466 --> 00:50:54,128
After the events of 1990,
720
00:50:54,510 --> 00:50:57,002
and what happened
with Julie and her father,
721
00:50:57,763 --> 00:50:59,129
you left the PD.
722
00:51:00,266 --> 00:51:02,303
Did you believe
that concluded the case?
723
00:51:03,269 --> 00:51:05,807
Did you feel the investigation
ended too abruptly?
724
00:51:07,106 --> 00:51:09,849
She wrote six novels after.
This was her first.
725
00:51:11,235 --> 00:51:12,851
Uh, very...
726
00:51:13,988 --> 00:51:17,197
To a cop,
very impressive eye for detail.
727
00:51:17,992 --> 00:51:18,992
Have you read it?
728
00:51:20,536 --> 00:51:22,903
Mr. Hays, did you have theories
after what happened
729
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,037
with Julie Purcell
and her father in '90?
730
00:51:25,583 --> 00:51:28,371
Theories that weren't in line
with your superior's directives?
731
00:51:28,460 --> 00:51:29,792
I heard what you asked.
732
00:51:31,005 --> 00:51:32,246
The answer is...
733
00:51:33,966 --> 00:51:36,674
I never stopped coming up
with theories about that case.
734
00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:42,589
And I hit Todd and Dave into a home,
and when I went over, we won.
735
00:51:42,683 --> 00:51:45,096
Coach saw, and came and talked
to me about baseball
736
00:51:45,185 --> 00:51:46,221
when I get older.
737
00:51:51,150 --> 00:51:53,267
- That's fantastic, Henry.
- Mmm-hmm.
738
00:51:53,611 --> 00:51:56,319
You're gonna be very athletic.
You already are.
739
00:52:10,294 --> 00:52:12,911
The publisher said we can
issue an update for the paperback
740
00:52:13,005 --> 00:52:14,667
once this appeal goes to trial.
741
00:52:15,549 --> 00:52:16,549
Yeah?
742
00:52:21,388 --> 00:52:23,220
You're a bit out of it tonight.
743
00:52:24,266 --> 00:52:25,473
The kids noticed.
744
00:52:25,893 --> 00:52:27,600
You can't be that way
in front of them.
745
00:52:29,772 --> 00:52:31,638
- I'm not drunk.
- What's going on?
746
00:52:33,817 --> 00:52:35,353
What happened with the deposition?
747
00:52:37,655 --> 00:52:39,112
Are they overturning the conviction?
748
00:52:43,202 --> 00:52:44,738
Julie Purcell is alive.
749
00:52:58,384 --> 00:53:00,125
Thought for sure
you'd all beat us here.
750
00:53:01,387 --> 00:53:03,067
What is that, huh?
751
00:53:03,514 --> 00:53:04,630
What's that mean?
752
00:53:20,614 --> 00:53:21,900
Well, what's it mean?
753
00:53:22,491 --> 00:53:23,491
Hmm?
754
00:53:36,213 --> 00:53:37,733
You want more chicken, Wayne?
755
00:53:41,635 --> 00:53:42,635
Uh...
756
00:53:44,763 --> 00:53:46,095
Thanks for the spread, Heather.
757
00:53:46,890 --> 00:53:47,971
This is wonderful.
758
00:53:48,851 --> 00:53:50,058
Are you feeling all right?
759
00:53:52,438 --> 00:53:55,351
He's been going back
through that case. Mom's book.
760
00:53:57,151 --> 00:53:58,562
I never read the whole thing.
761
00:54:00,404 --> 00:54:02,270
Couldn't stand I was in it so much.
762
00:54:04,825 --> 00:54:06,657
Going back over the story,
it's good...
763
00:54:07,619 --> 00:54:10,953
Making me work my brain, I mean.
Leading me to other stuff.
764
00:54:15,753 --> 00:54:18,416
Maybe you guys could see
about getting Rebecca out here.
765
00:54:19,506 --> 00:54:20,622
I'd like to see her.
766
00:54:23,635 --> 00:54:24,921
She's in L.A., Dad.
767
00:54:26,388 --> 00:54:27,469
When did that happen?
768
00:54:28,724 --> 00:54:29,840
What's she doing out there?
769
00:54:31,185 --> 00:54:32,676
She's playing music, Wayne.
770
00:54:37,024 --> 00:54:38,265
She okay? You talk to her?
771
00:54:38,692 --> 00:54:40,354
I talked to her
a few weeks ago.
772
00:54:43,530 --> 00:54:45,237
Think she'd come back home
for a visit?
773
00:54:45,824 --> 00:54:47,315
She don't like it here, Dad.
774
00:54:48,452 --> 00:54:49,452
Why not?
775
00:54:51,997 --> 00:54:53,613
I just don't think it suits her.
776
00:54:53,999 --> 00:54:56,286
- She never liked it.
- She didn't?
777
00:54:56,794 --> 00:54:58,035
Hey!
778
00:54:59,838 --> 00:55:01,170
One more time, okay?
779
00:55:04,343 --> 00:55:05,754
Shh, eat.
780
00:55:06,970 --> 00:55:08,802
It's going by pretty quick.
781
00:55:11,642 --> 00:55:12,849
Don't I know it.
782
00:55:17,189 --> 00:55:19,727
Maybe you guys could see
about getting Rebecca out here.
783
00:55:21,026 --> 00:55:22,107
I'd like to see her.
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