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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:02:23,185 --> 00:02:24,854 Wayne: You have the autopsy report. 2 00:02:26,063 --> 00:02:27,606 I don't need to go over that. 3 00:02:30,484 --> 00:02:33,821 Blunt force trauma and a cervical fracture. 4 00:02:36,574 --> 00:02:39,910 Somebody broke his neck. Brought him to that cave. 5 00:02:42,538 --> 00:02:43,873 Folded his hands, I guess. 6 00:02:47,126 --> 00:02:48,127 Alan. 7 00:02:49,045 --> 00:02:51,047 Talk to me about Oklahoma. You have to, man. 8 00:02:51,130 --> 00:02:54,216 - Wayne, this isn't the time... - How many sets of prints were taken? 9 00:02:55,384 --> 00:02:57,704 Do they know she was one of the robbers and not a customer? 10 00:02:58,721 --> 00:03:01,121 If they found her, you wouldn't even be talking to me, right? 11 00:03:01,265 --> 00:03:02,600 Do they have video surveillance? 12 00:03:02,683 --> 00:03:04,435 Mr. Hays, the purpose of this deposition 13 00:03:04,518 --> 00:03:06,638 is to give your statement, not to extract one from us. 14 00:03:07,063 --> 00:03:09,523 I'm pretty easygoing, but go away already. 15 00:03:10,566 --> 00:03:11,817 I don't think I will. 16 00:03:13,069 --> 00:03:15,571 Look, we're not at Liberty to divulge details 17 00:03:15,905 --> 00:03:17,573 of an ongoing police investigation, 18 00:03:18,115 --> 00:03:20,201 nor to share discovery items with anyone 19 00:03:20,284 --> 00:03:21,786 other than the prosecutor's office. 20 00:03:22,119 --> 00:03:23,847 Now, you can talk to them, if they'll talk to you... 21 00:03:23,871 --> 00:03:25,873 Hey, hey, hey. All right, stop. 22 00:03:27,208 --> 00:03:28,209 Vvayne. 23 00:03:29,043 --> 00:03:31,170 Finish up today, all right? 24 00:03:31,712 --> 00:03:33,130 Then after, we'll speak. 25 00:03:34,632 --> 00:03:38,886 I'm saying, we'll talk. Okay? 26 00:03:42,431 --> 00:03:43,474 Now, you were saying. 27 00:03:44,683 --> 00:03:47,770 You questioned people during this time. Right? 28 00:03:48,646 --> 00:03:50,147 Do you know another way to do it? 29 00:03:52,900 --> 00:03:54,944 The father worked at Wilson body works, 30 00:03:55,027 --> 00:03:56,867 where they used to make parts for school buses. 31 00:03:57,363 --> 00:03:58,781 We talked to everybody there. 32 00:03:59,365 --> 00:04:02,076 Employed about 100 people from west finger. 33 00:04:03,411 --> 00:04:06,080 The dolls were their own thing. Wasn't getting us anywhere, either. 34 00:04:14,588 --> 00:04:15,756 Thank you very much. 35 00:04:16,799 --> 00:04:20,678 Wayne: That guy who collected garbage, woodard. We talked to him, too. 36 00:04:21,429 --> 00:04:24,432 I saw the kids. They were pedaling into the sun. 37 00:04:25,474 --> 00:04:26,559 Headed west? 38 00:04:28,894 --> 00:04:30,271 We went by your place. 39 00:04:32,231 --> 00:04:33,899 You sort of collect things, huh? 40 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,569 I salvage trash that I can sell. 41 00:04:36,652 --> 00:04:38,696 You don't need to make it sound better than that. 42 00:04:38,779 --> 00:04:41,907 You got any other properties? Anywhere you keep things? 43 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:44,618 I don't have anyplace else. 44 00:04:45,453 --> 00:04:49,248 What'd you do before this? Before you collected scrap. 45 00:04:50,749 --> 00:04:54,628 Uh, came back from overseas. '72. 46 00:04:55,546 --> 00:04:56,797 Did some carpentry. 47 00:04:57,423 --> 00:04:59,550 Construction dropped off. Things didn't work out. 48 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,719 My marriage. Stuff. 49 00:05:03,137 --> 00:05:04,472 I was gone too long. 50 00:05:05,306 --> 00:05:08,559 About four years ago, she left me. Took the kids. 51 00:05:10,686 --> 00:05:12,062 I was motor pool. 52 00:05:12,938 --> 00:05:15,733 My man here was a lrrp. Two tours. 53 00:05:16,650 --> 00:05:17,902 Detective hays. 54 00:05:18,486 --> 00:05:20,488 They called him "purple hays" over there. 55 00:05:22,323 --> 00:05:23,574 You miss your family? 56 00:05:24,033 --> 00:05:25,618 I... yeah. 57 00:05:26,994 --> 00:05:28,454 I miss being someone that way... 58 00:05:29,622 --> 00:05:30,956 A way I could have a family. 59 00:05:32,541 --> 00:05:33,876 You were recon? 60 00:05:35,169 --> 00:05:36,712 75th infantry. 61 00:05:38,297 --> 00:05:39,340 Sergeant. 62 00:05:40,257 --> 00:05:43,219 You must be pretty insane, volunteering for that. 63 00:05:43,844 --> 00:05:45,884 I didn't think about it much, to tell you the truth. 64 00:05:50,392 --> 00:05:51,852 I ain't one of them burnouts. 65 00:05:52,394 --> 00:05:55,648 You know, comes back busting guys up, getting high. 66 00:05:56,398 --> 00:05:59,652 And I ain't a bum. I keep a house. I pay my way. 67 00:05:59,735 --> 00:06:02,363 Hey. I ain'tjudging, man. 68 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,867 Look, I punch in and out. 69 00:06:07,868 --> 00:06:09,286 I put on a suit in the morning. 70 00:06:10,329 --> 00:06:11,539 And being honest, 71 00:06:13,332 --> 00:06:14,833 I don't have much of a life. 72 00:06:16,627 --> 00:06:19,964 So why? Why punch in? 73 00:06:20,965 --> 00:06:22,800 Why the suit? Why... 74 00:06:23,092 --> 00:06:24,843 I don't ask myself questions like that. 75 00:06:27,263 --> 00:06:29,598 Could be I'm too chickenshit, Mr. Woodard. 76 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:33,894 It ain't my world. 77 00:06:34,853 --> 00:06:36,188 Less than yours, even. 78 00:06:37,439 --> 00:06:39,483 But I did pretty good at following orders. 79 00:06:41,318 --> 00:06:42,319 Now... 80 00:06:43,946 --> 00:06:45,197 You ever do this? 81 00:06:45,781 --> 00:06:50,077 I miss when "don't get killed" was the only thing on my to-do list. 82 00:06:52,538 --> 00:06:53,998 It's hard to unplug from that. 83 00:06:56,041 --> 00:06:57,376 I spent a year coming down. 84 00:07:02,923 --> 00:07:06,135 Just to go back over it, you sure you didn't see anything? 85 00:07:07,761 --> 00:07:10,639 I told you. I saw the teenagers out there, too. 86 00:07:11,515 --> 00:07:13,225 I was going in the other direction. 87 00:07:14,476 --> 00:07:16,103 You like kids, generally? 88 00:07:19,815 --> 00:07:21,483 What the fuck's the right answer to that? 89 00:07:25,279 --> 00:07:29,241 You think I... Listen, I got two kids, okay? 90 00:07:29,742 --> 00:07:30,868 Where are they? 91 00:07:32,411 --> 00:07:35,122 I don't know. She didn't tell me. 92 00:07:36,332 --> 00:07:37,750 And I haven't gone looking. 93 00:07:39,668 --> 00:07:43,464 If I'd never left, I think it'd have been fine. 94 00:07:45,174 --> 00:07:47,092 But to go, and come back... 95 00:07:48,886 --> 00:07:51,555 I just couldn't put myself back in that old story, that's all. 96 00:07:52,389 --> 00:07:54,600 And I couldn't leave it, either. You know? 97 00:07:56,977 --> 00:07:58,854 You ever been some place you couldn't leave, 98 00:08:00,648 --> 00:08:04,401 and you couldn't stay, both at the same time? 99 00:08:13,702 --> 00:08:15,079 Henry: Do you remember the place? 100 00:08:21,168 --> 00:08:22,169 I remember. 101 00:08:34,598 --> 00:08:37,309 Greg: I can tell you all that none of us will rest 102 00:08:37,393 --> 00:08:39,186 until we achieve justice in the matter. 103 00:08:39,770 --> 00:08:41,730 Our detectives are hard at work, 104 00:08:42,356 --> 00:08:45,317 and this is priority one for law enforcement 105 00:08:45,401 --> 00:08:48,070 in Washington county and northwest Arkansas. 106 00:08:49,822 --> 00:08:50,823 Now, it's temporary, 107 00:08:50,906 --> 00:08:53,146 but we're gonna have to have a curfew for a little while. 108 00:08:53,492 --> 00:08:55,744 It's important that we keep an eye on our kids right now, 109 00:08:55,828 --> 00:08:58,268 and we want to make sure you know where they are at all times, 110 00:08:58,497 --> 00:09:00,290 and that they're indoors by 8:00. 111 00:09:01,834 --> 00:09:05,045 Now, we can't really say too much about the investigation, 112 00:09:05,129 --> 00:09:06,809 but I'm here to answer any questions I can. 113 00:09:08,048 --> 00:09:10,426 Well, I don't let mine go near devil's den. 114 00:09:10,509 --> 00:09:12,803 Everybody knows you got something happening in it. 115 00:09:12,886 --> 00:09:15,848 Bums, junkies. Queers meet up out there. 116 00:09:17,307 --> 00:09:18,684 You have a question, sir? 117 00:09:18,892 --> 00:09:21,132 I wanna know what y'all are doing to break up that stuff. 118 00:09:21,186 --> 00:09:22,479 Clean up that park! 119 00:09:23,063 --> 00:09:26,608 What about these junkies? You got heroin in Arkansas now. 120 00:09:27,151 --> 00:09:29,862 Right now, our focus is trying to find this little girl 121 00:09:30,154 --> 00:09:31,321 and bring her home. 122 00:09:32,156 --> 00:09:33,596 We're considering every possibility. 123 00:09:33,907 --> 00:09:35,187 Man 2: And what about that fella 124 00:09:35,576 --> 00:09:37,536 always digging through everybody's trash? 125 00:09:38,078 --> 00:09:41,498 Mr. Kindt, can you tell us if they think the girl is still alive? 126 00:09:41,832 --> 00:09:43,667 It's our hope that she's alive, yes. 127 00:09:44,084 --> 00:09:45,502 But again, I really can't discuss 128 00:09:45,586 --> 00:09:47,254 any of the details of the investigation. 129 00:09:48,338 --> 00:09:51,759 Now, our detectives have a pair of xeroxes to pass out. 130 00:09:52,468 --> 00:09:54,803 One is a picture of Julie purcell. 131 00:09:55,846 --> 00:09:58,515 The other is the kind of backpack that the boy, will, had. 132 00:09:59,349 --> 00:10:00,893 It's red and has his name on it. 133 00:10:01,894 --> 00:10:04,354 Now, if anyone has any information of potential interest, 134 00:10:04,438 --> 00:10:06,857 no matter how far afield, share it with us. 135 00:10:07,608 --> 00:10:09,368 And trust that we will not let this terrible, 136 00:10:09,651 --> 00:10:11,487 cowardly act go unpunished. 137 00:10:12,738 --> 00:10:14,948 Wayne: Your old boss got real vocal around then. 138 00:10:15,199 --> 00:10:17,868 Gerald kindt had an election coming up the next year. 139 00:10:18,452 --> 00:10:19,453 I know. 140 00:10:19,745 --> 00:10:21,789 Guess that works to some point in your petition. 141 00:10:22,122 --> 00:10:24,500 It's worth noting, I think, his motivations. 142 00:10:26,210 --> 00:10:29,421 Well, now he's fucking state Attorney General. 143 00:10:32,049 --> 00:10:34,134 But we didn't work for him. He was your boss. 144 00:10:35,135 --> 00:10:36,887 Oh, not for a good while now. 145 00:10:40,224 --> 00:10:41,600 The broken neck is clear. 146 00:10:42,518 --> 00:10:43,977 But the way the arms were folded... 147 00:10:44,728 --> 00:10:46,146 - I know. - And the other thing. 148 00:10:46,647 --> 00:10:51,109 - The hell are those dolls for? - Correct. Look familiar, some way. 149 00:10:51,777 --> 00:10:54,321 Like the kind of thing at country fairs. 150 00:10:54,613 --> 00:10:56,448 What do you get from that crowd in there? 151 00:10:57,825 --> 00:10:58,909 They're worried. 152 00:11:04,331 --> 00:11:06,211 Could be thinking it could have been a neighbor. 153 00:11:07,251 --> 00:11:10,754 Had them sign in. Saw some shifty eyes in there, 154 00:11:11,755 --> 00:11:13,465 but may be my redneck radar. 155 00:11:15,008 --> 00:11:16,009 I don't know. 156 00:11:17,761 --> 00:11:18,846 Excuse me. 157 00:11:34,653 --> 00:11:36,154 - Hi. - Hey. 158 00:11:38,907 --> 00:11:40,242 You found him, didn't you? 159 00:11:44,204 --> 00:11:46,124 You look like you haven't slept in a couple days. 160 00:11:46,290 --> 00:11:50,002 Work to do. How's it at school? 161 00:11:51,336 --> 00:11:52,337 Sad. 162 00:11:53,964 --> 00:11:55,299 People are scared. 163 00:12:03,348 --> 00:12:04,892 Been asking about this. 164 00:12:06,351 --> 00:12:07,811 We haven't gotten anything. 165 00:12:08,687 --> 00:12:11,982 I don't know, you knowing the kids and such. 166 00:12:14,192 --> 00:12:15,944 You ever seen anything like this? 167 00:12:16,820 --> 00:12:18,530 Seen a kid with a doll like this? 168 00:12:19,239 --> 00:12:22,200 Uh, maybe. I don't know. 169 00:12:22,284 --> 00:12:24,953 But looks like something you'd find in a craft store or something. 170 00:12:28,332 --> 00:12:30,167 I haven't seen any of the kids with them. 171 00:12:32,419 --> 00:12:33,754 Can I keep this? 172 00:12:33,837 --> 00:12:35,714 Uh, sure. 173 00:12:36,006 --> 00:12:39,968 I'll ask around with the kids, maybe check with the other teachers. 174 00:12:40,052 --> 00:12:41,511 All right. Thanks. 175 00:12:46,683 --> 00:12:47,684 Man: Amelia. 176 00:12:51,271 --> 00:12:53,315 - Okay, I gotta go. - All right. 177 00:12:55,525 --> 00:12:56,526 Be safe. 178 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,284 Henry: Now, this family, 179 00:13:04,368 --> 00:13:05,994 haven't we spent enough time with this? 180 00:13:17,005 --> 00:13:18,090 It's helping me. 181 00:13:20,217 --> 00:13:21,551 Bringing things back. 182 00:13:22,386 --> 00:13:23,387 How's that? 183 00:13:27,099 --> 00:13:28,100 Your mother. 184 00:13:30,519 --> 00:13:31,520 I, um... 185 00:13:34,898 --> 00:13:36,733 I have trouble seeing her sometimes. 186 00:13:37,776 --> 00:13:44,032 Or I know who she is, but the parts of our lives, pieces, 187 00:13:45,867 --> 00:13:47,119 I can't picture them. 188 00:13:50,163 --> 00:13:51,957 You think mom wants you to keep doing this? 189 00:13:52,916 --> 00:13:56,086 It's bringing things back, going over the case. 190 00:13:57,129 --> 00:14:01,425 I'm remembering things. My life. Your sister. 191 00:14:07,472 --> 00:14:09,599 You know when the last time I saw Rebecca? 192 00:14:15,063 --> 00:14:16,231 Mom's funeral? 193 00:14:19,192 --> 00:14:21,570 I think you talked on the phone a few months back. 194 00:14:36,668 --> 00:14:39,212 You sure you wanna keep talking to the TV people? 195 00:14:42,507 --> 00:14:46,553 That woman, the director, I wanna know what she's after. 196 00:14:47,387 --> 00:14:48,847 What they might know now. 197 00:14:50,182 --> 00:14:53,810 She said she'd, uh, show me something next time. 198 00:14:54,102 --> 00:14:55,562 She's baiting you, dad. 199 00:14:56,313 --> 00:14:58,857 Do you think she cares at all about you or who did it? 200 00:15:01,568 --> 00:15:03,945 She just wants people to watch her shitty show. 201 00:15:05,447 --> 00:15:09,076 And I think mom would want you to move on. 202 00:15:10,786 --> 00:15:12,266 Enjoy the family you have around you. 203 00:15:15,082 --> 00:15:20,003 Well, she and I always had different ideas. 204 00:15:20,087 --> 00:15:21,588 I remember that. 205 00:15:28,053 --> 00:15:30,055 Warren: Wayne. Roland. 206 00:15:30,931 --> 00:15:33,475 Special agents Burt diller and John Bowen. 207 00:15:34,226 --> 00:15:36,478 Burt: Thanks, detective. We'll get these back asap. 208 00:15:36,853 --> 00:15:38,355 Want you to know we have no intention 209 00:15:38,563 --> 00:15:41,149 of impeding or usurping your investigation. 210 00:15:41,483 --> 00:15:45,195 This is a task force. One unit with a common goal. 211 00:15:46,154 --> 00:15:47,757 Feds are gonna take the lead with the kidnapping. 212 00:15:47,781 --> 00:15:50,325 You two are still point on the death investigation. 213 00:15:50,408 --> 00:15:53,120 Both of which will hopefully lead to the same solution. 214 00:15:53,203 --> 00:15:54,323 Everybody shares everything. 215 00:15:54,579 --> 00:15:57,207 We'll be doing debriefs first thing every morning. 216 00:15:57,290 --> 00:15:58,416 Everybody turns in dailies. 217 00:15:58,917 --> 00:16:00,210 How you guys wanna go forward? 218 00:16:00,794 --> 00:16:03,505 We got a multi-state apb out on the girl. 219 00:16:03,588 --> 00:16:05,966 Checkpoints along state lines. Agents advised. 220 00:16:08,301 --> 00:16:11,054 Let's get caught up. We'll figure our next move. 221 00:16:12,889 --> 00:16:13,890 Time? 222 00:16:14,766 --> 00:16:16,059 You two have somewhere to be? 223 00:16:17,060 --> 00:16:18,770 We got a funeral to get to. 224 00:16:42,794 --> 00:16:44,212 I know we spoke on the phone, 225 00:16:46,131 --> 00:16:48,011 but we want to touch base on a couple of things. 226 00:16:49,384 --> 00:16:50,385 What's that? 227 00:16:50,927 --> 00:16:52,637 I haven't been out here since last may. 228 00:16:53,221 --> 00:16:55,223 You stayed in the boy will's room, right? 229 00:16:55,307 --> 00:16:56,725 Yeah. Told you I did. 230 00:16:57,267 --> 00:16:58,977 Leave a couple magazines behind? 231 00:16:59,978 --> 00:17:01,271 Under the mattress? 232 00:17:01,354 --> 00:17:03,982 Damn. Yeah, maybe I did. 233 00:17:04,941 --> 00:17:06,151 Uh, should I... 234 00:17:07,527 --> 00:17:08,653 Never mind. 235 00:17:08,987 --> 00:17:11,198 You recall anything from the time you spent in the house 236 00:17:11,281 --> 00:17:12,657 might be worth mentioning? 237 00:17:13,158 --> 00:17:15,368 Like, you ever see anybody talking to the kids? 238 00:17:15,952 --> 00:17:17,662 Any adults you didn't recognize? 239 00:17:18,163 --> 00:17:21,541 Nah. Nah. Can't say I recall anything like that. 240 00:17:22,334 --> 00:17:24,920 Them kids, they kept to themselves a lot, you know. 241 00:17:25,003 --> 00:17:26,403 The house was a pretty tense place. 242 00:17:28,256 --> 00:17:30,936 I mean, you can probably tell, Lucy and Tom, they aren't real happy. 243 00:17:31,051 --> 00:17:32,427 Before any of this. 244 00:17:33,345 --> 00:17:36,681 Will and Julie, they play outside the house a lot? 245 00:17:37,432 --> 00:17:38,642 Yeah. I think so. 246 00:17:38,725 --> 00:17:40,477 I don't think they liked being around there. 247 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,395 You know, mom and dad angry all the time. 248 00:17:51,446 --> 00:17:53,073 Were you pretty close to will and Julie? 249 00:17:53,865 --> 00:17:58,828 I don't know. We got along. I played with them a couple times. 250 00:18:00,038 --> 00:18:02,123 They didn't see me much before I stayed here. 251 00:18:02,499 --> 00:18:03,750 But they were good kids. 252 00:18:04,459 --> 00:18:05,543 What do you think of Tom? 253 00:18:09,130 --> 00:18:10,465 He's an all right guy. 254 00:18:11,925 --> 00:18:15,637 I feel sorry for him. I felt for him even before all this. 255 00:18:18,139 --> 00:18:19,641 I mean, in my opinion, 256 00:18:20,225 --> 00:18:22,560 Lucy always needed, like, a strong male. 257 00:18:25,897 --> 00:18:27,315 Staying in town long? 258 00:18:27,983 --> 00:18:29,859 Nah, I gotta get back to work. 259 00:18:31,152 --> 00:18:33,071 Family could probably use you around. 260 00:18:33,154 --> 00:18:34,698 I can't get the time off. 261 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,117 It's not like there's a lot I can do for them. 262 00:18:37,784 --> 00:18:38,994 And the night of? 263 00:18:39,536 --> 00:18:41,621 Your neighbor can confirm you were at home? 264 00:18:45,834 --> 00:18:47,210 I don't know if they can or not. 265 00:18:47,919 --> 00:18:50,297 But you could check with the starlight bar in Springfield. 266 00:18:50,672 --> 00:18:52,048 I had a couple there after work, 267 00:18:52,132 --> 00:18:54,259 and then lwent home and watched chips. 268 00:18:55,218 --> 00:18:58,596 - You wanna search my place? - Would that be okay? 269 00:19:01,099 --> 00:19:02,100 Sure. 270 00:19:03,601 --> 00:19:07,397 But maybe you should be out there trying to find my niece. 271 00:19:11,318 --> 00:19:12,736 I'm gonna get back to Lucy. 272 00:19:19,826 --> 00:19:21,494 Roy: Like we said over the phone, 273 00:19:22,412 --> 00:19:25,999 we hadn't seen or talked with the kids since last Christmas. 274 00:19:26,916 --> 00:19:28,710 Eloise: Nearly a year ago. 275 00:19:30,754 --> 00:19:33,548 - She doesn't like us. - That's Lucy, you mean? 276 00:19:33,923 --> 00:19:35,717 Roy: Eloise, let's don't, now. 277 00:19:36,301 --> 00:19:37,427 Why not now? 278 00:19:37,844 --> 00:19:40,430 Why not just say it? The children are lost. 279 00:19:41,806 --> 00:19:45,310 Yes, I mean Lucy. She runs around on Tom, you know. 280 00:19:45,685 --> 00:19:47,729 Every marriage has its own story. 281 00:19:48,355 --> 00:19:50,231 Nobody knows except the two involved. 282 00:19:50,315 --> 00:19:51,900 Bull. She was a terrible... 283 00:19:54,569 --> 00:19:58,239 You know, there's been some wondering about Julie. 284 00:19:58,698 --> 00:20:00,241 Don't. Not today. 285 00:20:00,325 --> 00:20:01,659 Eloise: Tom was working offshore. 286 00:20:02,077 --> 00:20:04,704 Could have been welding in Texas when Julie was conceived. 287 00:20:04,788 --> 00:20:06,873 - Now, I've wondered... - God damn it! 288 00:20:08,792 --> 00:20:11,753 Not today, Eloise. Not today. 289 00:20:15,882 --> 00:20:16,883 Tom: Hey. 290 00:20:19,302 --> 00:20:21,888 Why don't the two of y'all get out of my house for today? 291 00:20:24,182 --> 00:20:25,683 Mom, dad. 292 00:20:42,283 --> 00:20:44,603 Crewmember: Yeah, I got it now. 293 00:20:44,702 --> 00:20:45,742 Elisa: There's a web forum 294 00:20:45,787 --> 00:20:47,789 that posts about real-life criminal cases, 295 00:20:47,872 --> 00:20:50,250 things that are unsolved or unresolved. 296 00:20:50,583 --> 00:20:52,383 They have a whole section on the purcell case. 297 00:20:57,715 --> 00:20:59,050 This is what people do now? 298 00:21:01,761 --> 00:21:03,241 Elisa: They go in lots of directions. 299 00:21:04,389 --> 00:21:06,433 Did you know at various times since, 300 00:21:06,516 --> 00:21:08,935 large-scale pedophile rings connected to people of influence 301 00:21:09,018 --> 00:21:10,937 were uncovered in the surrounding areas? 302 00:21:11,020 --> 00:21:13,022 Do you know about the Franklin scandal? 303 00:21:15,316 --> 00:21:16,734 Wayne: No. 304 00:21:16,985 --> 00:21:18,545 It's been theorized that the straw dolls 305 00:21:18,653 --> 00:21:21,489 are a sign of pedophile groups, like the crooked spiral. 306 00:21:22,532 --> 00:21:24,117 I don't think that's right. 307 00:21:28,538 --> 00:21:32,459 Can I ask, with what happened in 1990 and you leaving the force, 308 00:21:33,042 --> 00:21:35,003 did you ever feel your leads and theories 309 00:21:35,086 --> 00:21:36,713 were discounted because of your race? 310 00:21:38,298 --> 00:21:41,426 Not particularly. No, why? 311 00:21:42,051 --> 00:21:43,803 I'm interested in the intersectionality 312 00:21:43,887 --> 00:21:44,971 of marginalized groups 313 00:21:45,054 --> 00:21:47,515 within authoritarian and systemic racist structures. 314 00:21:54,814 --> 00:21:57,108 Anyways, those dolls from the scene, 315 00:21:57,192 --> 00:21:58,352 they were a significant lead. 316 00:21:59,152 --> 00:22:02,864 Amelia. She's the one helped us out with that. 317 00:22:03,406 --> 00:22:04,657 Got us that lead. 318 00:22:14,584 --> 00:22:17,170 Have you seen a doll that looks like this? 319 00:22:18,755 --> 00:22:19,839 Not you? 320 00:22:20,131 --> 00:22:22,175 Okay, well, you let me know if you do, okay? 321 00:22:36,397 --> 00:22:39,943 Mike, have you seen this doll before? 322 00:22:42,195 --> 00:22:43,196 Mike: Halloween. 323 00:22:44,781 --> 00:22:48,910 Somebody was passing them out at trick-or-treat, I think. 324 00:22:50,954 --> 00:22:53,414 Julie, she got one. 325 00:22:54,666 --> 00:22:57,627 This Halloween you went trick-or-treating with her? 326 00:22:58,962 --> 00:23:02,382 We met her and her brother and... and some other kids. 327 00:23:03,508 --> 00:23:05,510 We live on the next street over. 328 00:23:09,222 --> 00:23:10,265 It's okay. 329 00:23:30,910 --> 00:23:31,911 Tom? 330 00:23:33,288 --> 00:23:35,248 Tom! Tom! 331 00:23:37,041 --> 00:23:40,003 Hey, what you doing back up here, brother? 332 00:23:40,336 --> 00:23:43,715 Talking about? This is my usual shift. Four years. 333 00:23:54,726 --> 00:23:57,770 What's your fucking problem? My dick showing? 334 00:24:03,234 --> 00:24:04,235 Ernest: Hey, Tom. 335 00:24:05,445 --> 00:24:07,155 You sure you wanna be back at work today? 336 00:24:08,281 --> 00:24:11,909 I've been working full-time since I was 14 years old. 337 00:24:13,870 --> 00:24:16,581 You want me to sit at home with this shit in my head now? 338 00:24:22,003 --> 00:24:23,355 How long are you motherfuckers 339 00:24:23,379 --> 00:24:24,380 gonna stare at me? 340 00:24:25,923 --> 00:24:29,552 Somebody got something to say about me? My family? 341 00:24:30,428 --> 00:24:32,138 Huh? Somebody know something I don't... 342 00:24:32,221 --> 00:24:34,599 Tom? Hi. 343 00:24:36,267 --> 00:24:38,561 We didn't plan on having you back this soon. 344 00:24:38,645 --> 00:24:40,146 Well, I gotta earn a living. 345 00:24:40,938 --> 00:24:45,652 Well, the thing is, we, uh... we put you on leave. 346 00:24:46,527 --> 00:24:48,154 Well, I didn't ask for that, okay? 347 00:24:48,237 --> 00:24:50,281 Now, I gotta work. You telling me I can't work? 348 00:24:51,866 --> 00:24:54,619 Look, with everything that's happening, 349 00:24:54,702 --> 00:24:55,745 it's a little disruptive. 350 00:24:57,372 --> 00:24:58,892 People have other things on their mind. 351 00:24:59,832 --> 00:25:01,042 These machines. 352 00:25:01,709 --> 00:25:04,128 That's how accidents happen. You know that, Tom. 353 00:25:06,506 --> 00:25:08,633 I'm the guy nobody wants to be, huh? 354 00:25:12,637 --> 00:25:14,222 I'm a fucking joke, right? 355 00:25:16,140 --> 00:25:17,809 You shouldn't look at it like that. 356 00:25:18,851 --> 00:25:21,145 But you ain't coming back to work right now, Tom. 357 00:25:26,442 --> 00:25:28,194 Well, fuck everything, anyway! 358 00:25:29,237 --> 00:25:32,824 Yeah, fuck each of you! I quit! 359 00:25:39,288 --> 00:25:41,457 Roland: You remember which house was giving these out? 360 00:25:44,460 --> 00:25:45,670 Who else got one? 361 00:25:50,425 --> 00:25:54,137 Mike, did you see her get the doll? 362 00:25:56,514 --> 00:25:57,515 Mike: No, ma'am. 363 00:25:58,391 --> 00:25:59,851 When did you see she had it? 364 00:26:00,768 --> 00:26:02,019 It was like at the end. 365 00:26:02,854 --> 00:26:04,355 We were all showing what we got, 366 00:26:05,022 --> 00:26:07,358 and she had the doll in her trick-or-treat bag. 367 00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:10,695 Did you stay in the neighborhood, or did you drive somewhere? 368 00:26:11,487 --> 00:26:12,697 We just walked. 369 00:26:15,908 --> 00:26:18,453 Thanks, Mike. You're really helping. 370 00:26:20,538 --> 00:26:23,249 Hey. What'd you go as for Halloween? 371 00:26:23,916 --> 00:26:25,042 Luke Skywalker. 372 00:26:25,460 --> 00:26:29,672 Cool, man. My partner, he loved that movie. 373 00:26:47,565 --> 00:26:48,566 Say, uh, 374 00:26:50,777 --> 00:26:52,817 were you with Julie and her brother the whole night? 375 00:26:53,613 --> 00:26:56,657 Or was there ever a time y'all went different ways? 376 00:26:58,201 --> 00:26:59,202 Yeah. 377 00:27:00,077 --> 00:27:02,038 They'd been to a couple houses before we met up. 378 00:27:02,580 --> 00:27:05,166 But I don't think she had the doll then. 379 00:27:06,250 --> 00:27:07,543 How about the rest of the night? 380 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,671 We might have split up once or twice. 381 00:27:12,131 --> 00:27:14,383 But not for long. 382 00:27:15,551 --> 00:27:18,596 I saw her talking to people. Adults, maybe. 383 00:27:20,681 --> 00:27:23,601 They were two ghosts. Just in big sheets. 384 00:27:26,187 --> 00:27:27,688 You don't know who the ghosts were? 385 00:27:31,484 --> 00:27:33,194 Can you show us where it was y'all went? 386 00:27:36,364 --> 00:27:37,365 Here. 387 00:28:19,490 --> 00:28:21,158 You must have had some good times. 388 00:28:22,702 --> 00:28:23,828 When y'all meet? 389 00:28:26,247 --> 00:28:27,748 Thirteen years back. 390 00:28:29,208 --> 00:28:31,168 We got married 'cause she was pregnant. 391 00:28:34,130 --> 00:28:35,756 Roland: How long you knew her before? 392 00:28:37,008 --> 00:28:38,134 Not long. 393 00:28:40,303 --> 00:28:42,346 Got married three months after we met. 394 00:28:43,598 --> 00:28:45,349 The fort Smith courthouse. 395 00:28:47,143 --> 00:28:48,477 Me and Lucy, 396 00:28:48,728 --> 00:28:51,022 we never really knew each other, we just... 397 00:28:52,315 --> 00:28:53,691 Well, had the kids. 398 00:28:59,864 --> 00:29:01,449 My kids. Will and... 399 00:29:15,922 --> 00:29:17,965 Are we gonna find Julie, or what? 400 00:29:20,635 --> 00:29:22,470 'Cause I can't live through this, man. 401 00:29:24,931 --> 00:29:26,223 Neither of us can. 402 00:29:30,186 --> 00:29:33,147 If we're not gonna find her, I just need to know now. 403 00:29:39,028 --> 00:29:40,571 I can't go to sleep, 404 00:29:43,449 --> 00:29:44,742 and I can't wake up. 405 00:29:49,372 --> 00:29:51,374 Burt: Now, you're saying last week, Halloween, 406 00:29:51,666 --> 00:29:53,042 girl got one of these dolls, 407 00:29:53,125 --> 00:29:55,085 and then you found two of them at the crime scene? 408 00:29:55,336 --> 00:29:56,796 It's an identifier, boss. 409 00:29:57,421 --> 00:29:58,714 So what do you want to do? 410 00:29:59,173 --> 00:30:02,593 We wondered, maybe let's put it out on the TV or paper. 411 00:30:03,469 --> 00:30:05,721 Ask everybody if they seen one of those, 412 00:30:05,805 --> 00:30:07,264 or know who makes them around here. 413 00:30:07,848 --> 00:30:10,476 But that'd tip our hand. We're not ready for that. 414 00:30:11,268 --> 00:30:12,311 What's better... 415 00:30:12,395 --> 00:30:15,064 There's 114 households in the marked area 416 00:30:15,147 --> 00:30:16,691 and the subdivision near it. 417 00:30:16,774 --> 00:30:18,150 We do total surveillance. 418 00:30:18,651 --> 00:30:20,736 We have people searching every single house. 419 00:30:21,404 --> 00:30:24,115 Oh, come on. You don't have enough for one warrant, much less 100. 420 00:30:24,448 --> 00:30:28,035 No warrants. Say, two days, maybe three. 421 00:30:28,786 --> 00:30:29,829 Every detective we have. 422 00:30:30,496 --> 00:30:31,831 Pull in more feds, you want. 423 00:30:32,540 --> 00:30:34,792 Everybody just knocks and asks if they can search. 424 00:30:35,376 --> 00:30:36,961 Say it'll help with the purcell case. 425 00:30:37,837 --> 00:30:41,215 People won't like it, but a lot, I bet... 426 00:30:42,383 --> 00:30:43,783 A lot of people let us look around. 427 00:30:44,343 --> 00:30:45,594 Roland: We keep surveillance. 428 00:30:46,178 --> 00:30:47,888 See if somebody starts acting hinky. 429 00:30:48,472 --> 00:30:50,725 Nobody escapes the net. Our guy panics or something, 430 00:30:51,183 --> 00:30:53,394 we do it fast, without announcement. 431 00:30:53,477 --> 00:30:56,522 Even if you find anything, it could be problematic at trial. 432 00:30:56,939 --> 00:30:59,099 This is about the girl, not a trial. 433 00:30:59,942 --> 00:31:01,942 Wayne: Something happened on Halloween, that night. 434 00:31:02,236 --> 00:31:03,612 She gets that doll. 435 00:31:04,071 --> 00:31:05,865 A week later, she and her brother are gone, 436 00:31:05,948 --> 00:31:07,867 and you got two of those things on the scene. 437 00:31:07,950 --> 00:31:09,950 John: Maybe the perp's just brought them somewhere. 438 00:31:10,077 --> 00:31:12,455 You know? Maybe the dolls belonged to the girl. 439 00:31:12,538 --> 00:31:13,698 Roland: It's all maybes, man. 440 00:31:14,373 --> 00:31:15,893 You do the maybe that gives you a shot. 441 00:31:16,208 --> 00:31:17,209 No, it's thin. 442 00:31:18,377 --> 00:31:19,587 I mean, our constituents here, 443 00:31:19,670 --> 00:31:22,089 they value privacy and property rights. 444 00:31:22,673 --> 00:31:26,135 They aren't just gonna acquiesce to random searches of their homes. 445 00:31:28,220 --> 00:31:29,764 There's other ways to approach it. 446 00:31:31,057 --> 00:31:33,160 Roland: If we bring in the public, it stirs up the town 447 00:31:33,184 --> 00:31:34,935 and lets our guy know what we're thinking. 448 00:31:35,352 --> 00:31:36,353 Maybe he takes off. 449 00:31:36,437 --> 00:31:38,481 Maybe he just kills her, if he hasn't already. 450 00:31:40,858 --> 00:31:42,234 We can just do it fast. 451 00:31:43,569 --> 00:31:44,862 People will get over it. 452 00:31:48,616 --> 00:31:49,617 Warren. 453 00:31:50,284 --> 00:31:51,994 Just give us some time, Roland. 454 00:32:18,145 --> 00:32:19,855 Been running this sting. 455 00:32:19,939 --> 00:32:22,233 Truck stop next door. Prosts and drugs. 456 00:32:22,983 --> 00:32:25,319 I was gonna check this guy out at some point. 457 00:32:25,820 --> 00:32:29,824 He asked one of the working girls if they had any younger friends. 458 00:32:29,907 --> 00:32:32,034 And another said he asked her, too. 459 00:32:32,827 --> 00:32:35,496 Came in here looking for special magazines. 460 00:32:36,497 --> 00:32:38,332 Ted lagrange. Pulled his file. 461 00:32:39,333 --> 00:32:41,085 He got outta wrightsville a while back. 462 00:32:41,168 --> 00:32:45,714 Carnal knowledge of a minor. Enticing a minor. Bunch of shit. 463 00:32:48,425 --> 00:32:51,554 Calling himself "Robert" something now. 464 00:32:52,638 --> 00:32:53,722 Roland: Thanks, rich. 465 00:32:56,892 --> 00:33:00,855 Man, you gotta come in here every day? 466 00:33:03,524 --> 00:33:04,775 Welcome to vice. 467 00:33:32,094 --> 00:33:33,846 I haven't seen you here before, havel? 468 00:33:34,972 --> 00:33:36,807 I'm usually at the vfw. 469 00:33:40,769 --> 00:33:43,129 Want to thank you for everything you did today with the kid. 470 00:33:45,024 --> 00:33:46,984 He wasn't talking to us till you opened him up. 471 00:33:48,777 --> 00:33:50,029 Real grateful for that. 472 00:33:51,739 --> 00:33:52,990 He was broken up about it. 473 00:33:54,783 --> 00:33:56,410 I think he had a crush on Julie. 474 00:33:59,496 --> 00:34:01,123 Why'd you give me that picture? 475 00:34:02,291 --> 00:34:03,292 The doll. 476 00:34:04,043 --> 00:34:05,211 Instinct, I guess. 477 00:34:06,837 --> 00:34:08,631 I knew the kids weren't talking to us. 478 00:34:11,258 --> 00:34:12,384 You were in the war? 479 00:34:15,596 --> 00:34:16,889 You're a cop, 480 00:34:16,972 --> 00:34:18,891 so you want to know more about a person, 481 00:34:18,974 --> 00:34:20,059 you just look them up, huh? 482 00:34:20,976 --> 00:34:22,061 Pretty much. 483 00:34:23,395 --> 00:34:24,605 Did you look me up? 484 00:34:29,902 --> 00:34:30,986 Thought about it, though. 485 00:34:38,202 --> 00:34:39,328 I was born here. 486 00:34:40,621 --> 00:34:41,830 I went to u of a. 487 00:34:43,415 --> 00:34:45,209 Dropped out myjunior year. 488 00:34:46,377 --> 00:34:47,836 Went west with a friend. 489 00:34:48,879 --> 00:34:50,464 We got in with some people. 490 00:34:50,881 --> 00:34:52,800 I was in this scene, San Francisco. 491 00:34:55,219 --> 00:34:59,306 Anti-war, kind of fringe panther stuff. 492 00:35:01,308 --> 00:35:03,686 Some things happened, not good. 493 00:35:05,104 --> 00:35:06,438 And then I was alone. 494 00:35:07,815 --> 00:35:10,818 '74, I came back home, got my degree. 495 00:35:17,157 --> 00:35:18,575 I grew up in Conway. 496 00:35:20,286 --> 00:35:21,745 My mom worked on a farm. 497 00:35:23,497 --> 00:35:25,040 I spent two years in the jungle. 498 00:35:26,333 --> 00:35:27,835 A lot of it I was alone. 499 00:35:30,129 --> 00:35:33,382 I hunt a lot now. Alone. 500 00:35:34,883 --> 00:35:36,135 I'm a vegetarian. 501 00:35:37,511 --> 00:35:38,846 That's a real shame. 502 00:35:40,597 --> 00:35:42,224 If you're a democrat, don't tell me. 503 00:35:46,645 --> 00:35:47,730 You like teaching? 504 00:35:49,898 --> 00:35:50,941 Sometimes. 505 00:35:53,027 --> 00:35:54,361 I want to be a writer. 506 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,364 Write books. 507 00:35:59,366 --> 00:36:00,743 I don't read enough. 508 00:36:01,994 --> 00:36:04,079 I like Batman and silver surfer. 509 00:36:06,123 --> 00:36:09,126 I had this sort of dyslexic thing growing up. 510 00:36:10,544 --> 00:36:11,670 Was that hard? 511 00:36:12,629 --> 00:36:13,881 They said I was dumb. 512 00:36:15,507 --> 00:36:17,051 My mom wasn't having any of that. 513 00:36:20,888 --> 00:36:24,058 That poem you were teaching, llookeditup. 514 00:36:24,433 --> 00:36:26,310 - Oh, yeah? - I read it. 515 00:36:27,519 --> 00:36:30,105 I'm not ready to talk about it yet, but I have thoughts. 516 00:36:32,232 --> 00:36:34,109 - Share when you want. - All right. 517 00:36:37,321 --> 00:36:38,572 You ever been married? 518 00:36:42,201 --> 00:36:43,327 You? 519 00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:45,954 I was engaged. Seven months. 520 00:36:47,664 --> 00:36:48,874 I broke it off. 521 00:36:49,416 --> 00:36:51,293 I didn't want to be married, I realized. 522 00:36:52,711 --> 00:36:55,339 - I don't wanna get married. - No? 523 00:36:58,217 --> 00:37:00,302 Guy the other day said I must be crazy. 524 00:37:02,179 --> 00:37:05,682 Thing is, and I've thought of this for a while, 525 00:37:07,684 --> 00:37:08,977 I think I might be. 526 00:37:10,604 --> 00:37:11,647 Like how? 527 00:37:17,611 --> 00:37:19,947 I wear clip-on ties 'cause I'm preoccupied 528 00:37:20,030 --> 00:37:22,324 with this idea of getting strangled with one. 529 00:37:25,661 --> 00:37:26,703 Is that too much? 530 00:37:30,624 --> 00:37:32,793 This year, twice, 531 00:37:33,502 --> 00:37:37,005 I've been to St. Louis, and I've stayed at this hotel, 532 00:37:37,631 --> 00:37:39,341 and I've pretended I'm someone else. 533 00:37:40,843 --> 00:37:44,596 I go out, meet new people, and I am someone else. 534 00:37:45,055 --> 00:37:48,642 Different name, different background, differentjob. 535 00:37:49,393 --> 00:37:50,394 Twice. 536 00:37:59,570 --> 00:38:00,696 You drink too much? 537 00:38:02,448 --> 00:38:03,532 I don't know. 538 00:38:05,033 --> 00:38:06,827 I might get drunk twice a month. 539 00:38:08,954 --> 00:38:09,997 Three times. 540 00:38:11,748 --> 00:38:13,333 I like to laugh, is the thing. 541 00:38:16,753 --> 00:38:19,214 Hey. Raise it up. 542 00:38:20,048 --> 00:38:22,050 Hurry. Quick. 543 00:38:24,303 --> 00:38:26,847 Newscaster: Information in the purcell murder-kidnapping, 544 00:38:27,181 --> 00:38:29,933 we go to the Washington county courthouse earlier this afternoon. 545 00:38:30,017 --> 00:38:31,143 Don't do it. 546 00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:33,121 Greg: We believe the missing girl, 547 00:38:33,145 --> 00:38:36,231 Julie purcell, was contacted by her abductor 548 00:38:36,315 --> 00:38:38,609 while she participated in Halloween last week. 549 00:38:39,818 --> 00:38:41,987 We're sharing a graphic of the area 550 00:38:42,070 --> 00:38:43,990 where she and her brother went trick-or-treating. 551 00:38:44,865 --> 00:38:46,575 Now, our investigation suggests 552 00:38:46,658 --> 00:38:49,745 that someone who saw her on Halloween has special knowledge of this case. 553 00:38:50,621 --> 00:38:51,830 Giving it away. 554 00:38:51,914 --> 00:38:53,790 Greg: Anyone who saw anything suspicious... 555 00:38:53,874 --> 00:38:56,126 - What's wrong? - I'm sorry. I... 556 00:38:56,793 --> 00:38:59,338 I gotta go. God damn it. 557 00:38:59,963 --> 00:39:02,283 Reporter: Are you saying the children knew their kidnapper? 558 00:39:02,466 --> 00:39:05,886 Greg: I'm not at Liberty to, uh, reveal that at this time. Thank you. 559 00:39:09,681 --> 00:39:11,281 Wayne: I knew they wouldn't listen to me. 560 00:39:12,476 --> 00:39:13,936 But you should have stopped that. 561 00:39:15,103 --> 00:39:18,440 Me? What am I supposed to do? 562 00:39:19,066 --> 00:39:20,150 You were there. 563 00:39:20,526 --> 00:39:23,320 I'm saying, I talk, it don't mean anything. 564 00:39:23,862 --> 00:39:25,239 Don't matter if I'm right. 565 00:39:26,156 --> 00:39:29,159 You, at least, you talk, it means something to them. 566 00:39:29,243 --> 00:39:30,702 Might consider what you're saying. 567 00:39:30,786 --> 00:39:32,222 You might have stopped them from doing that. 568 00:39:32,246 --> 00:39:35,207 Bullshit. Who knew until it was on the TV? 569 00:39:35,541 --> 00:39:36,667 Why didn't you stop them? 570 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,379 They ain't my tribe, man. Take care of your shit. 571 00:39:40,462 --> 00:39:42,839 Thbe? Where you think you are, asshole? 572 00:39:43,173 --> 00:39:45,968 - I know where I am. - Do you? It don't sound like it. 573 00:39:46,635 --> 00:39:48,916 Son, I know where I am in a way you will never understand. 574 00:39:49,805 --> 00:39:51,139 Are you high, "purple" hays? 575 00:39:51,682 --> 00:39:53,767 'Cause you're making about as much goddamn sense 576 00:39:53,850 --> 00:39:55,310 as my grandmother's dementia. 577 00:39:55,394 --> 00:39:56,770 No, I'm saying I know where I am. 578 00:39:56,853 --> 00:39:58,188 Hey, good for you. 579 00:40:26,675 --> 00:40:28,176 Was all I could think of. 580 00:40:31,471 --> 00:40:32,598 You got something else? 581 00:40:35,309 --> 00:40:38,061 Vice gave me a dude near fort Smith to look at. 582 00:40:38,979 --> 00:40:40,355 I pulled his file. 583 00:40:42,608 --> 00:40:43,609 What is it? 584 00:40:49,281 --> 00:40:50,616 You can read for yourself. 585 00:41:03,670 --> 00:41:04,838 You wanna go get him? 586 00:41:08,383 --> 00:41:09,635 Iwanna go get him. 587 00:41:11,970 --> 00:41:13,930 We might as well keep watch out here. 588 00:41:15,807 --> 00:41:17,351 Check the guy out in the morning. 589 00:41:18,018 --> 00:41:19,436 Toss his place first. 590 00:41:28,278 --> 00:41:29,696 We should get bennies. 591 00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:33,617 Staying up all night. 592 00:41:36,286 --> 00:41:38,955 Glove box. Red and blue ones. 593 00:41:42,292 --> 00:41:43,919 Prosecuting attorney decided 594 00:41:45,045 --> 00:41:50,050 best thing was to take our single clue and spread it all over the town. 595 00:41:52,594 --> 00:41:55,263 And that got us a few hundred false tips the first couple of days. 596 00:41:56,056 --> 00:41:57,891 That's when it all started with the town. 597 00:41:59,101 --> 00:42:00,102 Just panic. 598 00:42:06,483 --> 00:42:08,819 Wayne: Lived in their imaginations now, you see? 599 00:42:28,714 --> 00:42:30,048 Everybody was scared. 600 00:42:32,050 --> 00:42:33,176 That included us. 601 00:42:54,030 --> 00:42:55,031 Morning. 602 00:43:02,497 --> 00:43:03,540 You gonna eat? 603 00:43:08,086 --> 00:43:09,212 Me neither. 604 00:43:12,758 --> 00:43:14,509 We need you to come with us, sir. 605 00:43:17,929 --> 00:43:20,432 - What's the... - We'll tell you on the way. 606 00:43:22,851 --> 00:43:24,060 No! Please! 607 00:43:25,896 --> 00:43:27,564 No, it's not me, I swear to god! 608 00:43:29,024 --> 00:43:31,777 You're wrong about this. You shouldn't have brought me here. 609 00:43:32,486 --> 00:43:34,070 This get you off, mister, huh? 610 00:43:34,946 --> 00:43:37,282 You entertain fantasies of strapping white men to posts? 611 00:43:39,284 --> 00:43:41,369 - Now and then, yeah. - Really? 612 00:43:44,915 --> 00:43:46,249 Talk about your fantasies. 613 00:43:46,917 --> 00:43:48,210 Then he'll tell you his. 614 00:43:48,877 --> 00:43:50,045 Theodore lagrange. 615 00:43:51,421 --> 00:43:52,464 It's Ted, yeah? 616 00:43:54,090 --> 00:43:55,675 Ted, you been out a bit over two years. 617 00:43:56,384 --> 00:43:57,385 I haven't done anything. 618 00:43:57,469 --> 00:43:59,197 I know what you're doing, and I haven't done anything. 619 00:43:59,221 --> 00:44:00,301 Released from wrightsville. 620 00:44:01,515 --> 00:44:05,227 You got little rock up the road. Why'd you come way out here, Ted? 621 00:44:07,854 --> 00:44:09,731 And why are you calling yourself Robert hebert? 622 00:44:10,774 --> 00:44:12,818 I... I wanted a new start. 623 00:44:13,401 --> 00:44:15,445 They keep you in protective custody in wrightsville? 624 00:44:18,365 --> 00:44:19,366 Figured. 625 00:44:20,575 --> 00:44:22,202 Guys who mess with kids, 626 00:44:23,078 --> 00:44:25,288 they don't usually make it out with all their parts. 627 00:44:25,664 --> 00:44:27,415 Tell me how you mess with kids. 628 00:44:28,291 --> 00:44:29,584 Wayne: The boy and the girl. 629 00:44:29,918 --> 00:44:32,337 Your landlady said you didn't come home last Friday night. 630 00:44:32,420 --> 00:44:33,505 - What? - The 7th. 631 00:44:34,256 --> 00:44:37,217 That's not... I was out. I was just out. 632 00:44:37,551 --> 00:44:39,832 Help me understand what it was like for you in the moment. 633 00:44:40,053 --> 00:44:42,639 Let me feel your side of it. Okay? 634 00:44:43,765 --> 00:44:45,934 - Tell me why you killed the boy. - I didn't! 635 00:44:46,434 --> 00:44:48,270 I never seen him before he was on the news. 636 00:44:53,149 --> 00:44:55,694 You'll wanna explain to me where you were that night. 637 00:44:58,238 --> 00:44:59,739 Help me see your side of things. 638 00:45:01,992 --> 00:45:03,912 What'd you do on Halloween night? Where were you? 639 00:45:07,873 --> 00:45:08,874 Well, 640 00:45:10,625 --> 00:45:12,919 we're here to listen when you want to share. 641 00:45:39,905 --> 00:45:42,365 Yes. He's here mondays and Fridays. 642 00:45:42,741 --> 00:45:45,118 We do story time twice a week in the evenings, 643 00:45:45,201 --> 00:45:46,578 and he plays guitar for it. 644 00:45:46,953 --> 00:45:50,165 But his name's Robert hebert, not what you said. 645 00:45:50,498 --> 00:45:52,292 And he worked on the 7th? Last Friday? 646 00:45:52,626 --> 00:45:53,627 Yes, mmm-hmm. 647 00:45:54,294 --> 00:45:55,814 You know what time he left that night? 648 00:45:56,129 --> 00:45:57,505 Probably about 8:00 or after. 649 00:45:57,881 --> 00:46:00,216 He helped us put up the tables and chairs. 650 00:46:01,301 --> 00:46:02,594 Did he do something? 651 00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:05,639 You're not gonna see this guy anymore. 652 00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:09,100 If you do, give us a call, okay? 653 00:46:15,941 --> 00:46:17,609 Alan: Robbery was a couple of months ago. 654 00:46:17,692 --> 00:46:19,736 All I know for sure is that her prints showed up. 655 00:46:21,321 --> 00:46:22,656 It's like you said... 656 00:46:23,198 --> 00:46:26,284 They don't know if she was a customer or part of the break-in. 657 00:46:26,743 --> 00:46:28,286 Was it a partial or a full? 658 00:46:29,162 --> 00:46:30,163 Full. 659 00:46:31,289 --> 00:46:32,499 It was her. 660 00:46:34,876 --> 00:46:36,461 They had video surveillance? 661 00:46:36,753 --> 00:46:38,505 Oh, they smashed the camera in the pharmacy. 662 00:46:38,922 --> 00:46:41,132 Store's got footage going back three days prior. 663 00:46:41,216 --> 00:46:43,635 We subpoenaed it, but we have to wait. 664 00:46:44,177 --> 00:46:46,346 Somebody watching the store in case she comes back? 665 00:46:47,222 --> 00:46:50,141 My understanding, sallisaw pd's focused on the robbery. 666 00:46:50,642 --> 00:46:51,893 And I wouldn't say the locals 667 00:46:52,018 --> 00:46:55,313 are a crackerjack investigative team or anything... 668 00:46:55,563 --> 00:46:56,815 So nothing. 669 00:46:57,190 --> 00:47:00,485 Man's family didn't have the resources for an investigator. 670 00:47:01,945 --> 00:47:03,655 But obviously, we'd like to find her. 671 00:47:10,704 --> 00:47:13,289 What about Arkansas pd? They looking for her? 672 00:47:13,873 --> 00:47:15,709 There's nobody on the case yet. 673 00:47:16,209 --> 00:47:17,794 Kindt's office will have to look at it 674 00:47:17,877 --> 00:47:19,837 since they'll be defending our motion to overturn, 675 00:47:19,963 --> 00:47:22,007 but right now, no. 676 00:47:22,674 --> 00:47:23,800 I don't think so. 677 00:47:24,843 --> 00:47:26,761 You all right going up against your old boss? 678 00:47:29,222 --> 00:47:30,473 It's overdue. 679 00:47:43,778 --> 00:47:44,904 Talk to Roland? 680 00:47:45,655 --> 00:47:47,073 We have an appointment. 681 00:47:48,825 --> 00:47:50,160 He's done well. 682 00:47:52,162 --> 00:47:53,163 He has. 683 00:48:14,559 --> 00:48:15,769 You wanna execute him? 684 00:48:16,061 --> 00:48:18,646 We can Bury him right out here. I don't give a shit. 685 00:48:19,773 --> 00:48:22,317 Throw him off a bridge... Nobody'll care. 686 00:48:22,692 --> 00:48:24,819 Put him in holding, 687 00:48:24,903 --> 00:48:26,071 get his parole violated. 688 00:48:26,154 --> 00:48:27,697 He'll be back in wrightsville tomorrow. 689 00:48:28,031 --> 00:48:31,076 - Full sentence. - If you say so. 690 00:48:31,826 --> 00:48:33,119 Talk shit about us... 691 00:48:33,870 --> 00:48:36,247 I'll have monstrous niggers fuck him to death in his cell. 692 00:48:37,832 --> 00:48:41,336 Do you hear me, boy? You will bleed black cock. 693 00:48:46,341 --> 00:48:49,177 Gotta catch up, man. Just spent the day on this bullshit. 694 00:48:55,308 --> 00:48:59,020 That was a vivid description of prison rape. Jesus. 695 00:48:59,479 --> 00:49:01,022 Could tell he had the racial thing. 696 00:49:01,523 --> 00:49:02,883 Remember what he said in the barn? 697 00:49:03,566 --> 00:49:05,985 Still, it's gonna haunt me. 698 00:49:11,491 --> 00:49:13,091 Dispatch: D-12, do you copy? 699 00:49:17,038 --> 00:49:18,039 Copy, dispatch. 700 00:49:19,124 --> 00:49:21,709 Lieutenant twiggs wants y'all at the purcell place. 701 00:49:24,087 --> 00:49:25,088 What's up? 702 00:49:25,588 --> 00:49:27,340 Said the family got a note. 703 00:49:31,970 --> 00:49:34,013 Copy. On the way. 704 00:49:50,989 --> 00:49:52,866 - Henry: Hey, dad. - Hi. 705 00:50:16,347 --> 00:50:20,560 Hey. Hey. Did you see? They sent me the galleys. 706 00:50:20,643 --> 00:50:21,728 That's great. 707 00:50:23,646 --> 00:50:25,315 You got a little loose after work? 708 00:50:27,192 --> 00:50:28,526 How was the deposition? 709 00:50:29,277 --> 00:50:30,320 It was fine. 710 00:50:39,954 --> 00:50:41,789 Wayne: It's as much about us as anything. 711 00:50:43,917 --> 00:50:45,627 And I think her and me, 712 00:50:47,086 --> 00:50:49,406 it was as close as she could give the thing a happy ending. 713 00:50:52,467 --> 00:50:54,135 Elisa: After the events of 1990, 714 00:50:54,510 --> 00:50:57,013 and what happened with Julie and her father, 715 00:50:57,764 --> 00:50:59,140 you left the pd. 716 00:51:00,266 --> 00:51:02,310 Did you believe that concluded the case? 717 00:51:03,269 --> 00:51:05,813 Did you feel the investigation ended too abruptly? 718 00:51:07,106 --> 00:51:09,859 She wrote six novels after. This was her first. 719 00:51:11,236 --> 00:51:12,862 Uh, very... 720 00:51:13,988 --> 00:51:17,200 To a cop, very impressive eye for detail. 721 00:51:17,992 --> 00:51:18,993 Have you read it? 722 00:51:20,536 --> 00:51:22,914 Mr. Hays, did you have theories after what happened 723 00:51:23,081 --> 00:51:25,041 with Julie purcell and her father in '90? 724 00:51:25,583 --> 00:51:28,378 Theories that weren't in line with your superior's directives? 725 00:51:28,461 --> 00:51:29,796 I heard what you asked. 726 00:51:31,005 --> 00:51:32,257 The answer is... 727 00:51:33,967 --> 00:51:36,678 I never stopped coming up with theories about that case. 728 00:51:38,471 --> 00:51:42,600 And I hit Todd and Dave into a home, and when I went over, we won. 729 00:51:42,684 --> 00:51:45,103 Coach saw, and came and talked to me about baseball 730 00:51:45,186 --> 00:51:46,229 when I get older. 731 00:51:51,150 --> 00:51:53,278 - That's fantastic, Henry. - Henry: Mmm-hmm. 732 00:51:53,611 --> 00:51:56,322 You're gonna be very athletic. You already are. 733 00:52:10,295 --> 00:52:12,922 The publisher said we can issue an update for the paperback 734 00:52:13,006 --> 00:52:14,674 once this appeal goes to trial. 735 00:52:15,550 --> 00:52:16,551 Yeah? 736 00:52:21,389 --> 00:52:23,224 You're a bit out of it tonight. 737 00:52:24,267 --> 00:52:25,476 The kids noticed. 738 00:52:25,893 --> 00:52:27,603 You can't be that way in front of them. 739 00:52:29,772 --> 00:52:31,649 - I'm not drunk. - What's going on? 740 00:52:33,818 --> 00:52:35,361 What happened with the deposition? 741 00:52:37,655 --> 00:52:39,115 Are they overturning the conviction? 742 00:52:43,202 --> 00:52:44,746 Julie purcell is alive. 743 00:52:58,384 --> 00:53:00,136 Thought for sure you'd all beat us here. 744 00:53:01,387 --> 00:53:03,067 Tom: What is that, huh? 745 00:53:03,514 --> 00:53:04,640 What's that mean? 746 00:53:20,615 --> 00:53:21,908 Well, what's it mean? 747 00:53:36,214 --> 00:53:37,734 Heather: You want more chicken, Wayne? 748 00:53:44,764 --> 00:53:46,099 Thanks for the spread, Heather. 749 00:53:46,891 --> 00:53:47,975 This is wonderful. 750 00:53:48,851 --> 00:53:50,061 Are you feeling all right? 751 00:53:52,438 --> 00:53:55,358 He's been going back through that case. Mom's book. 752 00:53:57,151 --> 00:53:58,569 I never read the whole thing. 753 00:54:00,405 --> 00:54:02,281 Couldn't stand I was in it so much. 754 00:54:04,826 --> 00:54:06,661 Going back over the story, it's good... 755 00:54:07,620 --> 00:54:10,957 Making me work my brain, I mean. Leading me to other stuff. 756 00:54:15,753 --> 00:54:18,423 Maybe you guys could see about getting Rebecca out here. 757 00:54:19,507 --> 00:54:20,633 I'd like to see her. 758 00:54:23,636 --> 00:54:24,929 She's in la, dad. 759 00:54:26,389 --> 00:54:27,473 When did that happen? 760 00:54:28,724 --> 00:54:29,851 What's she doing out there? 761 00:54:31,185 --> 00:54:32,687 She's playing music, Wayne. 762 00:54:37,024 --> 00:54:38,276 She okay? You talk to her? 763 00:54:38,693 --> 00:54:40,361 Heather: I talked to her a few weeks ago. 764 00:54:43,531 --> 00:54:45,241 Think she'd come back home for a visit? 765 00:54:45,825 --> 00:54:47,326 She don't like it here, dad. 766 00:54:48,453 --> 00:54:49,454 Why not? 767 00:54:51,998 --> 00:54:53,624 I just don't think it suits her. 768 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,294 - She never liked it. - She didn't? 769 00:54:56,794 --> 00:54:58,045 Hey! 770 00:54:59,839 --> 00:55:01,174 One more time, okay? 771 00:55:04,343 --> 00:55:05,761 Heather: Shh, eat. 772 00:55:06,971 --> 00:55:08,806 It's going by pretty quick. 773 00:55:11,642 --> 00:55:12,852 Don't I know it. 774 00:55:17,190 --> 00:55:19,734 Maybe you guys could see about getting Rebecca out here. 775 00:55:21,027 --> 00:55:22,111 I'd like to see her. 54517

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