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[♪ rhythmic drumming]
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[fire crackling]
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[slicing]
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[shouting].
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[Mariana Van Zeller]
Tension's very high right now.
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Everybody's yelling.
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They're unhappy that we're here,
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possibly filming
some of this stuff.
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[shouting].
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[Mariana Van Zeller] The
Democratic Republic of Congo
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or DRC is one of the most
breathtaking places on Earth.
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But a brutal colonial history,
political instability,
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and dire poverty
have also shaped it
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as a nation of extreme violence.
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[Police Officer] Okay. Go.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] But
now they're saying we can go.
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Go on?
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[loud chatter].
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Okay.
I'll go with you.
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So this is the local uh,
port and the local market.
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And this is where we,
we know that there is
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bushmeat being sold.
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Obviously, we stand out
like sore thumbs here
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with the cameras.
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Everybody's like
looking at us.
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[chatter]
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[Mariana Van Zeller] In the
DRC, approximately two million
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pounds of bushmeat,
butchered forest animals,
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are eaten every year.
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Regulations on the trade are
murky, with illegally-obtained
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animals regularly offered up
for sale beside legal ones.
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[shouting]
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Which
explains why almost nobody
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wants us filming here.
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[shouting]
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[Mariana Van Zeller]
There's dried fish being sold.
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These fried worms.
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And, yeah, right behind me,
there's a monkey being sold.
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They're actually trying
to cover it up right now.
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I've been told that when
you see bushmeat for sale in
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markets like this,
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live animals may also
be hidden nearby.
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And that's what I'm looking for,
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endangered chimps,
gorillas, and bonobos
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that have been captured
in the forest and
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trafficked to the city,
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part of a multibillion dollar
black market that threatens
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the very existence
of the world's great apes.
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[shouting]
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[theme music plays]
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[Mariana Van Zeller] A recent
report by conservation
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biologists predicts that
chimps and gorillas will lose
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about 85% of their homelands
in the next 30 years.
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Protecting these endangered
animals is a race against time,
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because in addition
to habitat loss,
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experts are reporting
the existence of
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transnational crime
groups that are
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snatching animals and
selling them overseas
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for astronomical sums.
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This is what brings me to the
Democratic Republic of Congo.
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I want to understand the black
market for these species,
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known as great apes, and to
track down some of the people
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responsible for
this gruesome trade.
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[Adams Cassinga] Wildlife
trafficking is the fourth most
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lucrative crime in the world.
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We are talking between
$20 and $30 billion.
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The DRC is the only country in
the world which has got three
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of the four great apes.
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And here in the Congo Basin,
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primates, in general,
are paying the price.
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[Mariana Van Zeller]
Adams Cassinga is an activist
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whose organization,
Conserv Congo,
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infiltrates trafficking networks
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and tries to
rescue at-risk apes.
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[Adams Cassinga] A great ape
is the closest cousin
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to a human.
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It is as smart as we are.
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We are watching it but
it's also watching us.
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And when it sees you,
it ducks...
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then it peeps again.
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Only a chimp can do that.
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[Mariana Van Zeller]
Scientists have determined
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that we share an astonishing
98.8% of our DNA sequence
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with chimpanzees.
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They organize their social
relationships in ways similar
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to humans and are capable
of complex communication.
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They know intense friendships
and rivalries, and also
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experience many emotions
that we as humans know well.
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Among them, joy,
empathy, anger, and fear.
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They also excel at
problem-solving.
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[Adams Cassinga] It's very
difficult to catch a great ape
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into a snare.
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I'm not saying it's
impossible but it's very rare.
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So the only way to
catch a great ape is a gun.
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That's what kills an ape.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] By killing
the family around it.
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[Adams Cassinga] Yes.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] And
taking the baby chimps.
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[Adams Cassinga] Great
apes flock in families.
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And before you can take a baby
away from them, you've got to
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kill ten of them
to have just one.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] That
is such a crazy number.
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Given how protective we
humans are of our babies,
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it makes sense.
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And yet it's almost impossible
to fathom that there are
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people out there who are willing
to slaughter entire families.
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[Adams Cassinga] We have
what we refer to as tiers.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Okay.
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[Adams Cassinga] When it
comes to wildlife trafficking.
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Tier one being the hunter who
kills the animal but leaves.
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[Mariana Van Zeller]
Who kills or catches,
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if they want it alive.
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[Adams Cassinga]
Kills and catches.
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-Yeah.
-Both at the same time.
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You cannot catch
before killing.
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Tier two is what we
refer to as a transporter.
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These are the people who
transport the products or
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the species to these
areas, urban centers.
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And when he reaches here,
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there will be somebody
waiting there.
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We call him a marketer.
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-Uh-hmm.
-This is tier three.
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So he connects with everyone.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] So you,
you've actually found, you've
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caught some of
these guys in your.
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[Adams Cassinga] Of course.
That's what we do every day.
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[Mariana Van Zeller]
Right. That's...
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It's an uphill battle.
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Across Sub-Saharan Africa, the
clips of ape rescues document
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tedious and
dangerous operations,
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which sometimes free animals
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but often end up
simply recording tragedies.
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[Adams Cassinga] If we had
arrived here two days ago,
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we're going to find it alive.
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But she's been shot.
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And, as you can
see, she had a baby.
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She has been breastfeeding.
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They only have a baby
once every five years.
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It's a pity.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] And
what about the hunting?
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Where is that
happening right now?
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[Adams Cassinga] Anywhere
there's a forest, there's a,
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there's a poacher.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Uh-hmm.
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And all of them willing to kill
great apes and hunt great apes?
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[Adams Cassinga] They will kill
anything that comes across.
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This is a very harsh place.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] To start
our investigation, we head to
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where Adams says there's a
lot of poaching activity,
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the Kahuzi-Biega National Park,
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a protected region
in the eastern DRC.
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But getting to the park,
like many things in the Congo,
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requires time,
money, and connections.
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The Congo cannot be
traversed by road.
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In fact, only about 5% of
roads in the DRC are paved.
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So our trip begins with a
two-hour flight east to the
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city of Goma.
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Then a four-hour
ferry to Bukavu.
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And, finally, a two hour
drive in four-by-fours,
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accompanied by a prayer.
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[Horeb Bulambo] Father, we
pray so that you would be at
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our departure and at our arrival
and our returning time.
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Father...
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[Mariana Van Zeller] We have
been joined by Horeb Bulambo,
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a renowned Congolese
journalist, who, in the past,
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has braved these
treacherous roads and
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made contact with poachers.
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[Horeb Bulambo] In the name
of Jesus Christ. Amen.
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[All] Amen.
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[Mariana Van Zeller]
So do you guys do that
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every time you go out?
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Have you
been, you've been up
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several times before?
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[Horeb Bulambo] Several
times, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] And
which is why also we're all
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wearing protective gear.
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[Horeb Bulambo] Okay.
Thank you.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Okay.
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Horeb has learned that an
active band of poachers
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is operating 20
miles north of here.
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But in this war-torn
region of the DRC,
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it's a very risky journey.
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We're entering the park, but
it also is ungoverned territory.
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This is very concentrated
area for military checkpoints.
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There's another
one right here.
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We just passed by one.
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And that's because we're
entering, basically,
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rebel territory.
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[gunfire]
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For over 25 years, this area
has served as a staging ground
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for armed rebel groups.
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The stories of robberies,
killings, and rapes here
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are all too real.
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Coming up on a very muddy,
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I mean, it's a
crater in the floor.
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Holy moly.
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He says to go here.
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Oh, now, he's stuck.
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[Horeb Bulambo] Let's
push from the front.
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[Man] That's it.
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[Horeb Bulambo]
No, it's blocked.
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We can't go forward.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Not the
best place to get stuck,
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for sure.
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In fact, it's
one of the worst.
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It's so dangerous that should
our team fail in our attempt
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to pull the car free, we've
been told to abandon it
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rather than wait for help.
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[speaking native language].
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[Man] Woo!
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[♪ mysterious ambient music]
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[Mariana Van Zeller]
Thank you.
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[Horeb Bulambo] Yeah.
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-Okay. This is it?
-Yeah. This is the way.
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[Mariana Van Zeller]
Go from here?
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Four long hours later, we've
arrived in an area where Horeb
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has arranged a meeting with a
group suspected of trafficking
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and killing great apes.
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[Horeb Bulambo] Down there.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Okay.
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[Horeb Bulambo] He's hidden
in a hidden place.
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[speaking native language].
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[Mariana Van Zeller]
Oh, this is it.
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This is where they
have their camp.
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[♪ mysterious tense music]
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[speaking native language].
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Okay.
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He's putting on his
disguise right here.
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We've made contact with a man
we're calling Jean, the leader
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of a clan of Batwa Pygmies
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that is rumored to
be poaching great apes.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Oh, wow.
Holy moly.
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It's a, so it's a
trap, basically.
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They got, okay. Oh.
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[Mariana Van Zeller]
Very delicious?
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[laughing]
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The Batwa are an
at-risk group in the DRC.
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Compared to the
majority Bantu people,
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who represent 80%
of the population,
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they number less than 1%
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and have experienced
widespread discrimination.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Wow.
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So he's saying, basically,
that the government calls this
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a park, a protected area,
but they call it, this,
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their home, their land.
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They also say that
you're poaching, illegally,
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endangered species.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] On a prior
trip here, Horeb had been told
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that this group was catching
chimpanzees in the park.
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But if that's not the case,
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we've just taken
a very treacherous journey
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for nothing.
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We're not here to judge.
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[Jean] Yeah.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] We're
just here to understand and
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ask questions.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Hmm.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] While
higher level traffickers might
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ultimately earn
life-changing sums,
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Jean's take is only
enough to feed his family
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for about a week.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Like
humans, chimps normally
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give birth to just
one baby at a time.
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And for the first five years
of its life, that baby
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never strays far
from its mother.
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When you hear the baby
crying and screaming and
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the mother coming,
do you feel bad?
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Do you feel sad?
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[chopping]
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[Mariana Van Zeller] It's only
after we finished talking and
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a measure of trust has been
established that they decide
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to take me to one more
location in the bush.
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So the animals try
to come through here,
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they step on this,
and they're trapped.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Jean's
group is collecting $10 for a
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baby chimp, a pittance even
for first-tier traffickers.
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But it's
complicated to lay blame.
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Although they have
drawn first blood,
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the men I've just met
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feel that they
have no other option.
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[Adams Cassinga] Let's not
think in a monolithic way.
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Not every poacher do this
because that's what they
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wanted to do.
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But there are those who
are compelled to do it
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because of life's hardships.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Uh-hmm.
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[Adams Cassinga] If you go in
the so-called "protected areas"
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are, there are no schools.
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There are no hospitals.
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There is nothing.
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So if the state
is going to say,
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"Don't touch. Get out of there,"
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it has to come up with
ways and means on how
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these people can also
live a decent lifestyle.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] In the
absence of legitimate
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opportunities, the black
market provides its own.
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In this case, tier two
smugglers who transport
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captured animals and bring
them to major cities in the DRC.
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I'm wondering what sort of
quick money they can make for
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a baby ape they've
just purchased for $10.
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It's been incredibly difficult
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to make contact
with a transporter,
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but, finally, one of Horeb's
contacts comes through.
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The guy we're meeting
asked us to meet him here,
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in a church on the outskirts
of town, in a place where
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he sort of felt safe.
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We don't know much about him.
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We know we can
call him Jacques.
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That's what he
wants to be known as.
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And that he was
involved in the trade.
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[door shuts]
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[singing in foreign language]
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[door opens]
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[door shuts]
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Thank you
for coming.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] At the
edge of a protected forest
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in the Democratic
Republic of Congo,
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I'm meeting a man who says
he's wanted by the police.
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Are you religious?
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Is that why you wanted to
meet here in the church?
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Uh-hmm.
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So can you tell
me what you do?
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[Mariana Van Zeller] How many
chimps do you think you've sold?
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[Mariana Van Zeller] And who
were they? They were...
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[Mariana Van Zeller] How
much were you buying the
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chimpanzees and how much
were you selling them for?
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[Mariana Van Zeller] But how
do you carry the chimpanzees,
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the baby chimpanzees?
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Where? In a cage or, where?
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Were you
ever stopped by the authorities?
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Oui?
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[speaking English]
How much money?
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[Mariana Van Zeller]
$50 goes a long way here.
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It's about a month's wage
for an average worker.
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And when poverty meets
weak institutions,
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as it does throughout the DRC,
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it sets the stage for a
thriving black market.
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Why did you stop?
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[Mariana Van Zeller] For tier
two middlemen like Jacques,
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the next step is to ship apes up
the Congo River to the capital,
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Kinshasa, and hope
they survive the journey.
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[Adams Cassinga] So along the
way, they will die of disease,
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they will die of stress,
they will die of hunger,
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they will die of suffocation
because they're being concealed,
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and so on and so forth.
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[Mariana Van Zeller]
Adams Cassinga says the babies
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that reach the capital alive
will now be sold to traffickers
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on the third tier.
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[Adams Cassinga] These are the
movers and the shakers
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of the trade.
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He's gonna charge you $5,000,
and he had, for something
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which he has
bought for maybe $500.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] To locate
third-tier traffickers,
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those who have contact
with foreign buyers,
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Adams has suggested I visit a
live animal market in Kinshasa.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Yeah. Okay.
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So we're gonna try and go film
this live animal market that
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he says is right on
the side of the street.
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It's about 10
minutes from here.
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Oh, wow.
You see that?
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[clinking]
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Basically, I can see there's
like a monkey that's chained
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and a bunch of other animals
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right here on the
side of the road.
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Oh, wow.
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[birds chirping]
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Hello.
Good. I'm Mariana.
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Gadhafi?
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- Oui.
-Gadhafi.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] So he's
saying they're selling this,
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this monkey for $250.
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[Mariana Van Zeller]
130 for the grey parrots.
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These are actually
endangered species.
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They're called grey parrots.
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They're endangered.
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There's five of them here.
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And a bunch more
over there, actually.
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Despite the open trade in
endangered animals,
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like these grey parrots,
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I've heard that animal
sellers won't risk
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selling chimps or other
great apes out in the open.
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So I'm talking to this man,
Gadhafi, to see if he'll
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open up about how
they're trafficked.
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What type of a monkey is this?
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[Mariana Van Zeller] A baboon?
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[Mariana Van Zeller]
Six months?
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Oh, so it's a baby baboon.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] $650.
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The owner of the market sees
him talking to us and decides
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he wants to talk too, but he
wants his identity protected.
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So baboon, monkey, grey parrots,
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rabbits, python, turtle.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] He said
it would be dangerous for him
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to give us any names.
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But Gadhafi here was also
looking at me and trying to
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say that it's something that
we can talk when we leave this
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place, that he can give
us some more information.
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Gadhafi has agreed to meet us
out of earshot of his boss.
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Do you know any chimps for sale
here in Kinshasa, in the city?
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[Mariana Van Zeller] How much
do they pay, the people that
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buy for you?
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Have
you ever been caught by
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the authorities?
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Do you
know where the chimps go
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when they leave the country?
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[Mariana Van Zeller] You
don't care where it goes?
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[Mariana Van Zeller] You know,
unfortunately, I kept pressing
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and trying to get to possibly
see a live chimp somewhere.
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You know, they weren't
really willing to reveal
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much information about that.
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They say that usually
it's actually done
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on command per order.
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So once somebody comes
here and orders a chimp,
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he can get it.
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It's rare that baby
chimps are intercepted,
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but when it happens,
many are brought here,
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to the Lwiro
Rehabilitation Center.
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Wow. There's chimps right here.
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That's a really big one here.
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Wow.
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These are the
so-called "lucky ones".
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Many were rescued from
poachers or outgrew
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their utility as pets.
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But in all cases, they were
taken in after young lives
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filled with trauma.
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How old is this guy?
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Luis Flores
is head veterinarian here.
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What's their state when
they're first rescued,
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when they first arrive?
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Mentally, how do
they arrive here?
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[Mariana Van Zeller] A lot
of these babies have actually
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seen their mothers being
killed in front of them.
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[Mariana] To export, as part
of a trafficking network?
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[Mariana Van Zeller] So on the
one hand, you have people who
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kill them for meat.
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[Luis Flores] Yeah.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] And on
the other, you have the people
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that catch them and...
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[Mariana Van Zeller]
So where are they going?
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[Mariana Van Zeller]
So the UAE, Dubai, and...
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[Luis Flores] Yeah.
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[Daniel Stiles] The Arabian Gulf
is the biggest market now
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for the great apes
as exotic pets,
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and to go into these big safari
park-type zoos, wildlife parks.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Back in LA,
I meet up with Daniel Stiles,
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one of the world's foremost
experts on wildlife trafficking.
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He confirms what I heard
in the DRC, that one of the
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biggest markets for baby apes
is currently in the Middle East.
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So this is how they sell them?
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[Daniel Stiles] Yup.
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So this is like an advertisement
by a supplier in Kinshasa.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Yeah.
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[Daniel Stiles] He says, "Does
anybody want these chimps?"
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And if anybody does, whoop,
they're on a plane and they're
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off to Dubai.
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These are the ones that didn't
survive the poor transport.
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That one's been
damaged in capture.
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[Mariana Van Zeller]
You can see his head.
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[Daniel Stiles] Yeah.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] He
has injuries on his head.
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[Daniel Stiles]
That's a gorilla.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Ugh.
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[Daniel Stiles] They're the most
desired of the great apes.
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I've got prices actually offered
by a trafficker in Dubai.
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The equivalent
is over $500,000.
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[Mariana Van Zeller]
Half a million dollars?
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[Daniel Stiles] Half
a million dollars.
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[Mariana Van Zeller]
For a gorilla?
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[Daniel Stiles] Of which
there are many in the Gulf.
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Many.
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A lot of private wildlife
parks are springing up,
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belonging to private
individuals, and they're
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patterned after ones
we have here in the US.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Hmm.
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[Daniel Stiles] And I think
you've heard of Doc Antle.
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[Mariana Van Zeller] Uh-hmm.
I have indeed.
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Three years ago, I
investigated Doc Antle
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and his operation
in South Carolina,
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a so-called "animal sanctuary"
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that was charging visitors
$500 to take selfies
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with baby animals.
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[Doc Antle] I am the only one
qualified in this activity
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of raising cubs.
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00:29:17,464 --> 00:29:19,841
[Mariana Van Zeller] Antle was
later arrested by the FBI and
485
00:29:19,841 --> 00:29:23,762
has recently been convicted
of four felony counts
486
00:29:23,762 --> 00:29:26,223
related to wildlife trafficking.
487
00:29:27,265 --> 00:29:28,976
[Daniel Stiles] He is one of
the prime ones that have
488
00:29:28,976 --> 00:29:31,144
sort of inspired
these guys, I think.
489
00:29:31,144 --> 00:29:33,897
They're linking the
wildlife park with the
490
00:29:33,897 --> 00:29:35,232
social media accounts.
491
00:29:35,232 --> 00:29:36,400
[Mariana Van Zeller] Uh-hmm.
492
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,651
[Daniel Stiles] To
drum up business.
493
00:29:37,651 --> 00:29:41,196
That's the biggest new thing
that's evolving now in,
494
00:29:41,196 --> 00:29:43,782
in great ape trade.
495
00:29:43,782 --> 00:29:45,450
[Mariana Van Zeller] Once upon
a time in Hollywood,
496
00:29:45,450 --> 00:29:48,996
great apes were routinely used
to drum up attention and dollars
497
00:29:48,996 --> 00:29:51,331
at the box office.
498
00:29:51,331 --> 00:29:54,251
Today, the screens are
smaller, but the same dynamic
499
00:29:54,251 --> 00:29:56,169
is at play overseas,
500
00:29:56,169 --> 00:29:59,381
where baby animals draw
likes on social media
501
00:29:59,381 --> 00:30:02,968
and attract paying customers
to private zoos.
502
00:30:03,593 --> 00:30:07,681
[cheering]
503
00:30:08,098 --> 00:30:11,184
But now that I know how the
market works, it's impossible
504
00:30:11,184 --> 00:30:14,021
to see a baby chimp in
captivity without wondering
505
00:30:14,021 --> 00:30:17,232
just how it
reached foreign soil.
506
00:30:17,482 --> 00:30:19,985
That's why I set my
sights on investigating
507
00:30:19,985 --> 00:30:21,695
this social media post
508
00:30:21,695 --> 00:30:24,948
about a baby chimp
named Koba by Jasem Ali,
509
00:30:24,948 --> 00:30:28,952
a man who calls himself
the UAE lion king.
510
00:30:36,293 --> 00:30:37,794
[Mariana Van Zeller]
Given the complexities of
511
00:30:37,794 --> 00:30:39,504
captive breeding programs,
512
00:30:39,504 --> 00:30:42,466
Daniel Stiles told me that it
was very unlikely that
513
00:30:42,466 --> 00:30:45,844
there are any
located in the UAE.
514
00:30:45,844 --> 00:30:48,430
So how would this baby chimp,
named Koba,
515
00:30:48,430 --> 00:30:50,098
leave his home country,
516
00:30:50,098 --> 00:30:52,976
possibly the DRC,
where I had just been,
517
00:30:52,976 --> 00:30:57,564
and suddenly arrive in
a zoo 3,000 miles away?
518
00:30:57,856 --> 00:31:01,234
I wanted to go to the UAE to
investigate, but our request
519
00:31:01,234 --> 00:31:03,820
to film in the
country was denied.
520
00:31:03,820 --> 00:31:06,865
So I sought help
from an insider.
521
00:31:07,115 --> 00:31:08,533
[Zara Hovelsas] The people
you are up against are
522
00:31:08,533 --> 00:31:10,160
extremely powerful.
523
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,287
They have a lot of money and
they can just, you know,
524
00:31:12,287 --> 00:31:14,873
do whatever they want.
525
00:31:14,873 --> 00:31:17,334
[Mariana Van Zeller] Zara
Hovelsas is a Swedish national
526
00:31:17,334 --> 00:31:20,003
who lived as an expat in
the UAE, and spent years
527
00:31:20,003 --> 00:31:23,256
volunteering and caring for
animals at the RAK Zoo,
528
00:31:23,256 --> 00:31:26,676
owned by Jasem Ali.
529
00:31:26,676 --> 00:31:31,848
So we've got a big tiger and
somebody on top of the tiger.
530
00:31:31,848 --> 00:31:33,141
Is that him?
531
00:31:33,141 --> 00:31:34,476
[Zara Hovelsas] That
would be him, yeah.
532
00:31:34,476 --> 00:31:35,685
[Mariana] Lionking_UAE?
Is that, that's his...
533
00:31:35,685 --> 00:31:36,603
[Zara Hovelsas] Uh-huh.
534
00:31:39,231 --> 00:31:41,399
[Mariana Van Zeller] Jasem Ali
opened RAK Zoo with government
535
00:31:41,399 --> 00:31:43,902
support in 2009.
536
00:31:43,902 --> 00:31:46,905
He claims his mission is to
rescue animals neglected or
537
00:31:46,905 --> 00:31:49,658
mistreated by
their previous owner.
538
00:31:49,658 --> 00:31:52,202
And this is the zoo that we've
actually been investigating as
539
00:31:52,202 --> 00:31:54,412
you know, because they
have a new baby chimp
540
00:31:54,412 --> 00:31:55,580
that has just arrived.
541
00:31:55,580 --> 00:31:57,666
-Koba.
-Koba. Yeah.
542
00:31:58,458 --> 00:32:00,460
[Zara Hovelsas] The comments
are just, people are loving it.
543
00:32:00,460 --> 00:32:02,170
"I want one.
I want to see it."
544
00:32:02,170 --> 00:32:03,672
[Mariana Van Zeller] "Oh, my
God. He looks so cute." Yeah.
545
00:32:03,672 --> 00:32:05,048
This one says, "I could
watch this on repeat.
546
00:32:05,048 --> 00:32:06,633
The love and tenderness he
gives and receives from the
547
00:32:06,633 --> 00:32:09,094
animals, so attractive."
548
00:32:10,262 --> 00:32:12,722
This baby couldn't
have been born there.
549
00:32:12,722 --> 00:32:13,682
[Zara Hovelsas] No.
550
00:32:13,682 --> 00:32:15,725
[Mariana Van Zeller] They have
to have come from somewhere in
551
00:32:15,725 --> 00:32:17,477
Africa probably, right?
552
00:32:17,477 --> 00:32:18,603
[Zara Hovelsas] Yeah.
Exactly. Yeah.
553
00:32:18,603 --> 00:32:21,815
For that baby to be there in
his arms now, her whole family
554
00:32:21,815 --> 00:32:23,859
would have had to be shot.
555
00:32:23,859 --> 00:32:26,027
She would have been pried
from her dead mother's arms,
556
00:32:26,027 --> 00:32:28,864
shipped over in the
most horrific way,
557
00:32:28,864 --> 00:32:31,491
or on someone's private jet.
558
00:32:31,491 --> 00:32:32,826
[Mariana Van Zeller] So you
still have people that
559
00:32:32,826 --> 00:32:33,952
you work with?
560
00:32:33,952 --> 00:32:34,995
[Zara Hovelsas] Yeah. Yeah.
561
00:32:34,995 --> 00:32:36,496
[Mariana Van Zeller] And do
you think that they are people
562
00:32:36,496 --> 00:32:38,206
who can help us try to figure
out where this animal came from?
563
00:32:38,206 --> 00:32:39,958
[Zara Hovelsas] Definitely.
Yeah. Yeah. For sure.
564
00:32:40,375 --> 00:32:43,253
[Mariana Van Zeller] Less than
a week later, Zara asked two
565
00:32:43,253 --> 00:32:46,965
friends to visit the RAK Zoo,
where a handler woke Koba up
566
00:32:46,965 --> 00:32:49,467
so they could
purchase time with her.
567
00:32:49,467 --> 00:32:51,094
[Zoo Worker] Koba. Koba.
568
00:33:19,664 --> 00:33:20,916
[Zoo Worker] No. No.
She's here.
569
00:33:20,916 --> 00:33:22,626
But before, we put, you know.
570
00:33:36,431 --> 00:33:38,600
[Mariana Van Zeller] While we
can't come out and say that
571
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,229
these claims are untrue, we
can say that at one year old,
572
00:33:42,229 --> 00:33:45,649
a chimp is normally
inseparable from its mother.
573
00:33:45,649 --> 00:33:48,235
And when Zara followed up
with the same trainer,
574
00:33:48,235 --> 00:33:51,238
he contradicted what he told
the visitors and said that
575
00:33:51,238 --> 00:33:54,532
he didn't actually know if the
baby's family was at the zoo.
576
00:33:55,033 --> 00:33:57,744
We reached out to Jasem Ali to
ask if he wanted to respond
577
00:33:57,744 --> 00:33:59,204
to our story.
578
00:33:59,204 --> 00:34:01,248
Through an assistant, he
repeated the claim that
579
00:34:01,248 --> 00:34:03,166
Koba was born at his zoo.
580
00:34:03,166 --> 00:34:05,168
Although, when asked to
provide any evidence,
581
00:34:05,168 --> 00:34:06,670
they refused.
582
00:34:06,670 --> 00:34:09,798
Zara says that illegal wildlife
trafficking in the UAE
583
00:34:09,798 --> 00:34:13,093
is widespread, evidenced
by sellers openly advertising
584
00:34:13,093 --> 00:34:15,262
animals on social media.
585
00:34:15,262 --> 00:34:17,347
So I can reach out to
any of them and say,
586
00:34:17,347 --> 00:34:19,224
"Hey, do you guys happen
to have a chimp for sale?"
587
00:34:19,224 --> 00:34:20,809
[Zara Hovelsas] Yeah, and I see
in the comments all the time,
588
00:34:20,809 --> 00:34:22,310
"How much do you sell them for?"
589
00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:24,104
And then they
probably DM them.
590
00:34:24,104 --> 00:34:25,897
[Mariana Van Zeller] And, in
fact, that's what Zara did
591
00:34:25,897 --> 00:34:27,607
right after our conversation
592
00:34:27,607 --> 00:34:30,402
and found a trafficker
on Instagram.
593
00:34:31,778 --> 00:34:38,326
[text tones]
594
00:34:43,206 --> 00:34:48,211
[text tones]
595
00:34:48,211 --> 00:34:51,464
An animal that may have been
bought for $10 to $50 in the
596
00:34:51,464 --> 00:34:56,052
very forest I just left is
now on sale in the UAE
597
00:34:56,052 --> 00:34:59,514
for $350,000,
598
00:34:59,514 --> 00:35:03,018
and, most likely,
it got there illegally.
599
00:35:04,644 --> 00:35:07,439
For great apes to cross most
international borders,
600
00:35:07,439 --> 00:35:11,151
they must carry paperwork
authorized by CITES,
601
00:35:11,151 --> 00:35:15,447
a global treaty between 184
parties that issues permits to
602
00:35:15,447 --> 00:35:19,159
regulate the trade of captive
wild animals and maintains a
603
00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:22,245
database to track
their movements.
604
00:35:22,245 --> 00:35:24,205
[Ivonne Higuero] The world
is looking to us and has
605
00:35:24,205 --> 00:35:26,750
confidence in us
to play our part
606
00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:28,835
in addressing these challenges.
607
00:35:28,835 --> 00:35:30,170
[Mariana Van Zeller]
Ivonne Higuero is the
608
00:35:30,170 --> 00:35:32,756
secretary general of CITES.
609
00:35:32,756 --> 00:35:36,301
So any great ape, any
chimpanzee, any bonobo,
610
00:35:36,301 --> 00:35:40,889
any gorilla that is leaving,
for example, the DRC,
611
00:35:40,889 --> 00:35:42,974
that trade is not
legal, correct?
612
00:35:42,974 --> 00:35:45,810
[Ivonne Higuero] Normally.
Normally, yes.
613
00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:47,437
[Mariana Van Zeller] We spent
some time in the DRC, in the
614
00:35:47,437 --> 00:35:50,273
Congo, investigating
the wildlife trafficking,
615
00:35:50,273 --> 00:35:51,900
particularly of great apes.
616
00:35:51,900 --> 00:35:56,154
And if you go on social media,
for example, you'll find a lot
617
00:35:56,154 --> 00:36:00,492
of chimpanzees and sometimes
even gorillas and bonobos in
618
00:36:00,492 --> 00:36:04,037
places like Dubai, in zoos,
619
00:36:04,037 --> 00:36:07,332
in safaris, and private homes.
620
00:36:07,332 --> 00:36:10,251
We were told by experts too
that these great apes,
621
00:36:10,251 --> 00:36:12,837
that it's not possible for these
chimpanzees, for example,
622
00:36:12,837 --> 00:36:15,090
to be bred in captivity.
623
00:36:15,090 --> 00:36:17,509
That they, if they have
baby chimpanzees,
624
00:36:17,509 --> 00:36:19,344
they must be coming
from the wild.
625
00:36:19,344 --> 00:36:21,179
Is that correct?
626
00:36:21,179 --> 00:36:23,515
[Ivonne Higuero] They're very
difficult to breed in captivity.
627
00:36:23,515 --> 00:36:27,435
If there are baby chimpanzees,
this is a concern because
628
00:36:27,435 --> 00:36:30,397
obviously, yes, there must be
something that is going on.
629
00:36:30,397 --> 00:36:31,815
[Mariana Van Zeller] So this
is the one particular case
630
00:36:31,815 --> 00:36:33,900
that I do want to bring to
your attention and I'd love if
631
00:36:33,900 --> 00:36:36,111
you can investigate further.
632
00:36:36,111 --> 00:36:37,946
It's a baby chimp call,
that goes by the name of
633
00:36:37,946 --> 00:36:39,489
Kobo or Koba.
634
00:36:39,489 --> 00:36:40,949
And he's at RAK Zoo.
635
00:36:40,949 --> 00:36:42,575
He's about one year
old, more or less.
636
00:36:42,575 --> 00:36:43,868
[Ivonne Higuero]
We will check.
637
00:36:43,868 --> 00:36:45,412
That I can
definitely look into.
638
00:36:45,412 --> 00:36:49,165
I will try to find out about
this particular chimpanzee.
639
00:36:49,582 --> 00:36:51,251
[Mariana Van Zeller] But the
secretary general's office
640
00:36:51,251 --> 00:36:54,421
later told us that they would
not investigate Koba unless
641
00:36:54,421 --> 00:36:57,632
we could provide evidence that
the chimp was illegally taken
642
00:36:57,632 --> 00:36:59,718
from the wild.
643
00:36:59,718 --> 00:37:02,387
They suggested we reach out
to a local CITES delegate
644
00:37:02,387 --> 00:37:03,680
in the UAE.
645
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,474
And we did.
Several times.
646
00:37:06,474 --> 00:37:09,227
But they never
provided answers.
647
00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:11,938
If it all feels like a
bureaucratic runaround,
648
00:37:11,938 --> 00:37:15,775
it's because CITES has no
actual enforcement arm.
649
00:37:15,775 --> 00:37:18,653
Even if it was determined
that Koba was trafficked,
650
00:37:18,653 --> 00:37:22,240
CITES can't send a team
in to rescue him.
651
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:24,200
[speaking native language].
652
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,202
[Mariana Van Zeller] And
so the grim reality is that
653
00:37:26,202 --> 00:37:28,746
protecting apes
requires an approach
654
00:37:28,746 --> 00:37:30,748
that goes beyond treaties.
655
00:37:30,748 --> 00:37:35,253
And in the DRC, that approach
includes putting AK-47s
656
00:37:35,253 --> 00:37:38,548
in the hands of rangers.
657
00:37:46,347 --> 00:37:48,725
[Mariana Van Zeller] In the
DRC, the race is on to protect
658
00:37:48,725 --> 00:37:52,020
great apes before
they're killed for meat
659
00:37:52,020 --> 00:37:54,814
or trafficked abroad.
660
00:37:56,399 --> 00:37:59,569
Towards the end of my journey,
I joined a patrol with a group
661
00:37:59,569 --> 00:38:03,490
of rangers led by a man
named Juvenal Muganka.
662
00:38:03,865 --> 00:38:05,742
[Juvenal Muganka]
Be careful here.
663
00:38:06,117 --> 00:38:07,702
[Mariana Van Zeller] The
greatest danger to gorillas is
664
00:38:07,702 --> 00:38:10,497
habitat loss, but
there are others.
665
00:38:10,497 --> 00:38:13,458
We're actually in rebel
territory, which is why a lot
666
00:38:13,458 --> 00:38:15,084
of these guys are
also carrying guns,
667
00:38:15,084 --> 00:38:17,337
in case there's poachers.
668
00:38:17,337 --> 00:38:19,881
And there's a lot of
landmines in this area.
669
00:38:19,881 --> 00:38:21,883
[Juvenal Muganka] Careful.
There is gorilla poop here.
670
00:38:21,883 --> 00:38:23,134
[Mariana Van Zeller] Whoa.
671
00:38:23,134 --> 00:38:24,677
So this is gorilla
poop right here?
672
00:38:24,677 --> 00:38:26,804
[Juvenal Muganka] Yeah.
673
00:38:27,138 --> 00:38:28,681
[Mariana Van Zeller] So we're
going in the right direction?
674
00:38:28,681 --> 00:38:30,099
[Juvenal Muganka] Yeah.
675
00:38:39,901 --> 00:38:41,236
[Mariana Van Zeller] So,
by nest, you mean this is
676
00:38:41,236 --> 00:38:43,029
where they slept, this
was their bed last night.
677
00:38:43,029 --> 00:38:44,197
[Juvenal Muganka]
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
678
00:38:44,197 --> 00:38:47,242
The gorillas were
here last night.
679
00:38:50,328 --> 00:38:51,830
[Mariana Van Zeller] Trekking
through the forest, you can
680
00:38:51,830 --> 00:38:54,165
see what an incredibly
difficult place this is
681
00:38:54,165 --> 00:38:57,252
to navigate, let alone patrol.
682
00:38:57,252 --> 00:38:58,836
Juvenal?
683
00:38:58,836 --> 00:39:00,171
[Juvenal Muganka] Yes?
684
00:39:00,171 --> 00:39:01,506
[Mariana Van Zeller]
There you are.
685
00:39:01,506 --> 00:39:03,091
It's really slippery here now.
686
00:39:03,091 --> 00:39:05,009
[Juvenal Muganka] Yeah.
Be careful.
687
00:39:05,844 --> 00:39:07,637
[Mariana Van Zeller] In two
hours, we've traveled barely
688
00:39:07,637 --> 00:39:10,765
more than a mile.
689
00:39:12,684 --> 00:39:15,562
And then as we enter a
particularly dense section of
690
00:39:15,562 --> 00:39:18,606
the forest, the patrol stops.
691
00:39:28,616 --> 00:39:30,493
[Juvenal Muganka]
Yeah. He's here.
692
00:39:30,493 --> 00:39:31,953
[speaking native language].
693
00:39:31,953 --> 00:39:33,246
[Mariana Van Zeller]
Oh, my God. It's right here.
694
00:39:33,246 --> 00:39:35,832
Look, it's right here.
695
00:39:35,832 --> 00:39:39,043
Oh my god.
It's right in there.
696
00:39:39,043 --> 00:39:42,046
[speaking native language].
697
00:39:46,092 --> 00:39:50,513
[mimicking growling]
698
00:39:50,513 --> 00:39:52,640
[Mariana Van Zeller] He's
starting to make the noises.
699
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,018
Juvenal is starting to
make the growling noises.
700
00:39:55,018 --> 00:39:56,936
[mimicking growling]
701
00:39:56,936 --> 00:39:58,354
Oh, my God.
702
00:39:58,354 --> 00:40:00,565
Come on. Let's go.
703
00:40:00,565 --> 00:40:03,318
Right there.
704
00:40:06,237 --> 00:40:12,160
[chewing]
705
00:40:15,288 --> 00:40:18,499
This is crazy.
706
00:40:29,886 --> 00:40:33,932
Nothing can prepare you
for this, the majesty of a
707
00:40:33,932 --> 00:40:36,517
full-grown silverback,
708
00:40:39,938 --> 00:40:43,441
not in a cage or
behind steel bars,
709
00:40:43,441 --> 00:40:48,946
but as free as you or me,
in its own habitat,
710
00:40:48,946 --> 00:40:53,493
caring for its family,
living without fear.
711
00:40:54,327 --> 00:40:55,870
[Mariana gasping]
712
00:41:15,264 --> 00:41:18,559
[♪ peaceful music]
713
00:41:18,559 --> 00:41:20,019
[Mariana Van Zeller] The
mother is actually holding a
714
00:41:20,019 --> 00:41:23,648
baby gorilla that was
born just last week.
715
00:41:25,608 --> 00:41:28,778
Yeah, I mean, to know
that they're basically
716
00:41:28,778 --> 00:41:31,656
killing the families,
killing the silverbacks
717
00:41:31,656 --> 00:41:36,744
so they could take and
sell the baby gorillas,
718
00:41:36,744 --> 00:41:40,331
so there's a lot of incentive
to kill these animals.
719
00:41:41,332 --> 00:41:43,126
But still, you know, when
you're in the presence of
720
00:41:43,126 --> 00:41:45,920
these animals here, it's
really hard to understand
721
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,881
how somebody could do that.
722
00:41:50,299 --> 00:41:54,220
Yeah, so if we keep on this
way, you know, by the time
723
00:41:54,220 --> 00:41:58,599
my son is my age, there
might be no gorillas left.
724
00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:04,522
Like that's a really emotional
and sad, sad thought,
725
00:42:04,522 --> 00:42:07,734
as beautiful as this moment is.
726
00:42:10,611 --> 00:42:13,740
It really is special and
you feel so privileged to,
727
00:42:13,740 --> 00:42:16,659
to be here and, and see this.
728
00:42:18,327 --> 00:42:20,872
Juvenal, what does
it feel to you
729
00:42:20,872 --> 00:42:21,914
every time you see a gorilla?
730
00:42:21,914 --> 00:42:24,751
For, for me, it was incredibly
emotional, but for you?
731
00:42:41,267 --> 00:42:44,395
[Mariana Van Zeller]
Juvenal, you're making me cry.
732
00:42:46,647 --> 00:42:50,318
Do you think that in 30 years,
we'll still be able to see
733
00:42:50,318 --> 00:42:51,694
gorillas in the
wild like this?
734
00:43:02,288 --> 00:43:04,165
[Mariana Van Zeller] Compared
to all the other black markets
735
00:43:04,165 --> 00:43:08,211
I've covered, this was one
of the most emotional for me.
736
00:43:08,544 --> 00:43:11,047
I've got
goosebumps everywhere.
737
00:43:18,346 --> 00:43:21,933
To know how much suffering,
how much death humans caused
738
00:43:21,933 --> 00:43:25,144
to these great apes
is beyond imagination.
739
00:43:26,062 --> 00:43:28,523
But there are
ways we can help.
740
00:43:28,523 --> 00:43:31,651
We can take a stand against
the exploitation of apes for
741
00:43:31,651 --> 00:43:35,029
entertainment
and reduce demand.
742
00:43:35,530 --> 00:43:38,324
We can work to alleviate
poverty and help people
743
00:43:38,324 --> 00:43:41,452
find alternatives to poaching.
744
00:43:41,452 --> 00:43:44,580
And we can put more resources
into protecting great apes
745
00:43:44,580 --> 00:43:48,543
in the wild and
preserving their habitats.
746
00:43:49,210 --> 00:43:52,588
There is still time,
but barely.
747
00:44:01,347 --> 00:44:02,890
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