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Welcome, welcome, welcome
to "Last Week Tonight". I'm John Oliver.
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Thank you so much for joining us.
It has been a busy week!
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Elections on Tuesday
saw big wins for Democrats.
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Ohio voted to enshrine abortion rights
in its state constitution.
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And the SAG strike
finally ended,
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meaning that movies will be back
in production.
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Although to be honest, I'm not even sure
that I need movies anymore,
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since this 17-minute video
was released
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of what I can only describe as a hamster
Gatsby living its best life.
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It's a complete masterpiece!
And it goes on for 16 more minutes!
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I mean, Barbenheimer was fine.
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I liked it fine but be honest,
it's just not as good as that.
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And I really hope you enjoyed
watching it. I really do.
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Because we're going to dive straight
in with our main story tonight,
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which concerns the ongoing
war between Israel and Hamas.
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A sentence which is a terrible way
to start a comedy show,
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and a great way to end a first date.
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And look, before we even begin,
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I know a lot of the conversation
surrounding this
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has been extremely heated.
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You may have seen friends
or coworkers posting hot takes
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that've shocked you.
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Suddenly, that guy who offered
you coke at a wedding is writing
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thesis-long Instagram stories
on the two-state solution,
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Kathy from work is posting
something that's antisemitic
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in a way that you really hope
she doesn't realize,
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and it's all shoved in between
your favorite influencer showing hole,
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while also calling
for a free Palestine.
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The internet is a wild place.
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Things are, understandably,
very tense right now,
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and it seems like everyone is finding
themselves making mistakes,
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and I do mean everyone.
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{\an8}Meanwhile, Kmart has had to pull one
its Christmas items off the shelf
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{\an8}because of its unfortunate wording.
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The shopping giant selling ham
Christmas calico bags
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with the slogan Merry Ham-mas.
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Which appears to be too similar
to the terrorist group Hamas.
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Yeah, that is too similar!
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It'd be like naming
your child John Blaine Gacy
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it's too close for comfort!
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But spare a thought
for Australian Kmart there,
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how were they supposed to know that
Hamas was gonna launch
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a terrorist attack so close
to the Ham-mas season?
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A thing we all definitely celebrate
and have heard of before.
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It feels like Ham-mas starts
a little earlier every year, doesn't it?
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One day it's Ham-oween,
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the next, your neighbor's
hanging up Hammas lights.
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And celebrities have also found out
the hard way
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that it's easy to get things wrong.
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A few weeks ago, Justin Bieber
posted "praying for Israel"
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over a picture of a devastated city
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that he apparently didn't realize
was actually Gaza.
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He then deleted the post and re-posted
the same prayers
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over a blank background.
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Which, as we now know,
thankfully did solve everything.
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There was also a statement issued
by a group of celebrities
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calling for the immediate
return of Israeli hostages,
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which TMZ covered like this.
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{\an8}Anyone involved, it seems,
in the Hollywood industry
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{\an8}all put their names to a letter
to President Biden.
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{\an8}It really does feel like it's everyone.
It's Chris Rock, it's Gwyneth Paltrow,
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{\an8}it's Adam Sandler.
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{\an8}Let me ask you something. Who doesn't
want to get the hostages out?
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{\an8}Bradley Cooper. You're right.
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{\an8}It's a non-statement. Of course,
everyone wants to get the hostages out.
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{\an8}I just think it's beyond ridiculous.
If we played that out for a second.
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{\an8}Joe Biden's going to get this
open letter, and be like what?
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{\an8} "Oh my God, The Rock signed this."
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{\an8} "We have to get the hostages out."
Like, are you kidding me?
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Yeah, as much as I hate to agree
with paparazzi SportsCenter,
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they're right about the.
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The Rock probably isn't going to solve
the conflict in the Middle East.
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It's one of those things so obvious
it shouldn't need saying,
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like pie tastes good,
or rainbows are pretty,
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or Yoshi is amazing in the sack.
Look at that tongue.
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End of discussion.
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But even as Harvey Levin leveled
some fair critiques
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on the utter futility of celebrity,
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he couldn't help taking a pretty
strong stance of his own.
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{\an8}- The statement of a ceasefire...
- They want Israel to stop attacking.
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{\an8}And so, you are gonna then allow
Hamas to come back in
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{\an8}and try to exterminate the Jews
in Israel and end Israel.
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{\an8}Presumably, the ceasefire means that
Hamas should not be attacking either.
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{\an8}- Wait, wait, wait.
- That's exactly what it means.
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{\an8}Hamas attacked in the first place.
This was a terrorist attack.
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{\an8}And the idea that
there's going to be a ceasefire now
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{\an8}invites Hamas just to do it again.
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Yeah, TMZ is now hashing out
its preferred solutions
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for what's happening
in the Middle East.
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Raising many questions, including,
what exactly is TMZ now?
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It used to be ESPN for B-listers
leaving the airport and stories like,
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"This Celebrity Died and Not Even
Their Family Knows Yet",
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and now it's doing geopolitics.
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Pick a lane, guys!
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It's either "Josh Gad Spills Ice Cream
on His Dog"
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or "Ariel Sharon's Impact on U.S.
Foreign Policy". You can't have both!
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The point is, there are strong opinions
everywhere
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and in some cases, they've
undeniably been informed by bigotry.
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"Antisemitic and islamophobic
incidents including violent assaults"
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"have spiked in the U.S."
in the past month.
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To put it mildly, it's not been
an easy time to wear a yarmulke
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or a hijab in America
over the last month.
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And I say that knowing it's not
necessarily been easy on our best days.
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So, there are a thousand different
reasons why this is hard to talk about,
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but it does feel
important to at least try.
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As you undoubtedly know,
on October the 7th,
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Hamas-led militants launched
an unprecedented and brutal attack
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against Israel, killing over
1,000 people, mostly civilians,
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including women
and children in their homes,
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in what has ended up being
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"the deadliest day for Jews
since the Holocaust".
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Over 200 hostages were taken,
including a nine-month-old baby,
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most of whom have not been returned.
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It was hideous and it was sickening.
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In response, Israel has launched
what's now become
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a month-long siege of Gaza,
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cutting off nearly all water, food,
electricity, and fuel to the territory.
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In just the first six days of the war,
it dropped 6,000 bombs
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on a strip of land just 25 miles long,
and at most seven miles wide.
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That is nearly as many as the
record number that the U.S. dropped
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on Afghanistan in a single year.
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As of this taping, more than 11,000
people had been killed,
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including at least 4,000 children.
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There is almost no piece of footage
that I could show you
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from Gaza that is not horrifying
or heartbreaking.
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But we did find one piece
of footage
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where a child very aptly sums up
what things are like there.
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How have the past few days been,
Abdulaziz?
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- Like shit.
- It's okay, we can cut it out.
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Tell me, how have the past few days
been, Abdulaziz? Explain to us.
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You mean about the war?
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Yes. How has it been with the war?
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Like shit!
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Yeah, of course, it feels like shit.
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There is no other way to put it.
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And I'm honestly glad that
he didn't even try there.
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I also appreciate him asking
for clarification
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when the reporter started over.
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Just to be clear, you're asking what
it's like to live through this war?
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Okay, I got it! My answer remains,
like shit! Next question, please.
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And I've got to say, it is hard to see
a kid like that,
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and then hear glib pronouncements
like this one,
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from Representative
Brian Mast of Florida.
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{\an8}I would encourage the other side to
not so lightly throw around the idea
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{\an8}of innocent Palestinian
civilians, as is frequently said.
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{\an8}I don't think we would so lightly
throw around the term
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{\an8}innocent Nazi civilians
during World War II.
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{\an8}There's not this far stretch to say
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{\an8}there are very few innocent
Palestinian civilians.
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That is not only disgusting,
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it's also, evidently, the sort of thing
you're allowed to get away
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with saying on the House floor
with zero repercussions
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because that's apparently where
the conversation is right now.
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But just so we're very clear,
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there are absolutely innocent
Palestinian civilians,
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in the same way that there are
Floridians who aren't braindead bigots
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with a penis for a head.
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A region's worst does
not represent them all.
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And look, we don't have time to talk
about the history
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of the Middle East tonight.
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And I know what you're thinking,
"But John, are you sure about that?"
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"Aren't you school?"
Well, fun fact: I'm not!
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I'm actually technically a comedy
show, I just hide it better than most.
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So, I'm not gonna get into the thousands
of years of generational trauma
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informing the response to this,
including the Holocaust,
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and the Nakba, or mass, violent
displacement of Palestinians
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during and after Israel's founding.
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I'm also not gonna do a historical
blow-by-blow
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of how Palestinians came to live
in Gaza and the West Bank right now.
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You can Google that for
yourselves or even Bing it!
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That's honestly completely fine, too!
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Although I will say, I wouldn't
Ask Jeeves about this,
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he has some unexpectedly
pretty nasty views on the subject.
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Instead, I'd like to zero in on one
of the biggest misconceptions
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you may've been hearing over
the last few weeks.
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Specifically, the tendency
to collapse leaders and citizens
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when discussing this,
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to assume that Netanyahu speaks
for all Israelis,
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or that Hamas speaks
for all Palestinians.
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Because that is emphatically
not the case.
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So, tonight, let's look at Hamas
and Netanyahu,
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how they came to be in power,
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whose interests they do
and don't represent,
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and what role they've played
in bringing us to this current conflict.
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And let's start with Hamas.
It's been around since 1987,
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and has governed Gaza
for the last 17 years.
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It was founded, in part, in opposition
to where Palestinian politics
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was headed at the time, with the
dominant political party, Fatah,
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embracing a peace process
with Israel.
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A process, by the way, the Palestinians
had high hopes for when it started.
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But Hamas branded itself as the part
of resistance to Israel,
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and undermined the peace process
with a long series of attacks
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and suicide bombings.
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And as prospects for peace collapsed,
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Hamas seems to be vindicated
in its messaging.
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And you can see that philosophy
continuing through to today.
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This senior Hamas official,
Ghazi Hamad, recently doubled down
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on the massacre of October the 7th,
by saying,
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"We must teach Israel a lesson, and
we will do it twice, and three times".
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And for many commentators, all the
citizens of Gaza are implicated
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in that sort of rhetoric, thanks to one
key fact that you hear all the time.
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{\an8}The people of Gaza, the Palestinians,
elected Hamas people,
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{\an8}Hamas fighters, Hamas terrorists
to their board of governors.
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{\an8}The people in Gaza elected Hamas.
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{\an8}It's a terrorist organization,
that is their government.
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{\an8}How do you say Hamas doesn't
represent the Palestinian people
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{\an8}when they voted Hamas
in to represent them?
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Okay, so very quickly, that is Tucker
Carlson's replacement at Fox,
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Jesse Watters.
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He's a lot like Tucker,
except less charismatic,
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way dumber,
and with somehow even more
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of an "I've killed someone during
a fraternity hazing accident" vibe.
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Which is really saying something.
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Because look, it is true that Gazans
did, at one point, elect Hamas.
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But if you think that makes them
all complicit in war crimes
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their government commits, then
boy, do I have bad news for you
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about decades of U.S. foreign policy.
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And also, there are some huge
asterisks on Gazans electing Hamas.
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First, that election happened in 2006,
and there hasn't been one since.
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And given that children make up roughly
half of Gaza's population,
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that means most Gazans weren't even
born when the last election took place.
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What's more, Hamas
didn't win a majority,
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it only with a "bare plurality"
of the votes.
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And it did so by running against Fatah,
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which was widely reviled for
incompetence and corruption at the time.
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Those were the key issues
in that election.
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Also, Hamas went
out of its way to present itself
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as more moderate back then.
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In fact, here is that same Hamas
official who recently justified
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the October 7th attacks,
shortly before that 2006 election.
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{\an8}We are a moderate organization, really.
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{\an8}We are not radical organization,
and we are not extremist
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or fundamentalist. No, we are
an open-minded organization.
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We believe in democracy and the
freedom and political pluralization.
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Yeah, Hamas really tried
to rebrand itself.
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Kind of like Domino's did when they
ran ads admitting
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that "the sauce tastes like ketchup"
"the crust tastes like cardboard,"
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and they promised to work days,
nights, and weekends' to get better.
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But, unfortunately, like Domino's,
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Hamas is a terrible organization
that in no way kept its promises.
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Because in the years following,
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that tone of openminded
freedom clearly fell away.
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Not only has there not
been another election,
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most people in Gaza don't believe
they have the freedom to speak openly.
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One poll found that,
under Hamas rule,
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68% believed that the right to
participate in a peaceful protest
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was not protected, or was
protected only to a limited extent.
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And human rights groups
have said that,
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Hamas forces have carried out a brutal
campaign of abductions, torture,
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and unlawful killings against
Palestinians accused
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of collaborating with Israel,
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and have attacked members
and supporters of Fatah,
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their main political rival.
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And the truth is, many Gazans
will say that they don't want
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Hamas in charge.
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Polls show, if true peace
were achievable,
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many Palestinians would embrace it.
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One conducted right before
October 7th found 73% favoring
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a peaceful settlement
to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
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And it's notable that in July, despite
all the restrictions on dissent in Gaza,
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there were actually people on
the streets chanting slogans including,
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"Fuck off, Hamas"
and, "We want to live".
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And look, even if all Palestinians
in Gaza did support Hamas,
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which they do not, the relentless
bombings of civilians there
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would still be abhorrent.
Collective punishment is a war crime.
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But the fact is, there is much more
criticism of Hamas in Gaza
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than Americans, in general,
and these dipshits, in particular,
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are willing to admit. Palestinians
in Gaza are not a monolith.
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And nor, importantly, are Israelis.
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Because now, let's talk
about Benjamin Netanyahu,
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a man who has been prime minister
of Israel for a combined 16 years.
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Here in the U.S., discussion of the
current conflict sometimes conflates
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the current Israeli government
with Israel as a whole,
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as if the two are entirely
representative of each other.
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You'll hear, "We need to
support Bibi and Israel,"
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or, "This is not a time
to criticize Netanyahu."
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But that is not the case within Israel.
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Criticism of Netanyahu there is fierce.
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One poll found that 76% of Israelis
want him gone,
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and many blame him for the security
lapses that led
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to the October 7th attack.
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And immediately after that attack,
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videos went viral of Netanyahu
ministers visiting hospitals
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where some of the victims were
recuperating, and being yelled at.
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Just watch this one minister essentially
get chased out of the hospital,
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first by a family member, and then
by somebody who worked there.
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{\an8}You're responsible for this.
Get out of here.
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{\an8}You're hindering this nation from
finding the way to move forward.
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{\an8}You're disturbing us.
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{\an8}You've been a really good girl, haven't
you? All of you ruined this country!
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{\an8}You ruined it! Now get out of here,
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{\an8}it's our turn now to take control!
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{\an8}Left-wing, right-wing,
one united nation, without you!
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{\an8}You ruined everything!
Get out of here!
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That is pretty intense. I don't know
much about medicine,
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but after seeing that, I'm going to
assume that the Hippocratic Oath
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actually goes,
"First: do no harm,"
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and, "Second: if unwelcome government
officials are upsetting people
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in your hospital,
kick them the fuck out."
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Because he was clapping at her
there like you do when you're trying
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to get a bird out of your house.
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And while that anger at Netanyahu
has certainly intensified
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since October 7th,
it's also been there for a long time.
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Before the attack, Israel saw
nearly 40 weeks of protests,
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including hundreds of thousands
of Israelis marching in the streets,
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in opposition to his plan that
would effectively end
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the independence of the judiciary
and endanger civil rights.
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And look, Netanyahu has always
been a hardliner.
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He's forged his entire political persona
around an extreme version
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of safety through strength.
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Which has included active opposition
to the peace process at crucial points.
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When former Israeli Prime Minister
Yitzak Rabin agreed
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to the Oslo Peace Accords,
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which attempted to set a framework
for an eventual resolution
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of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict,
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Netanyahu was fiercely against it.
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Infamously speaking at a rally
where protestors chanted,
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"In blood and fire,
we will expel Rabin,"
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and held aloft depictions of him
in a Nazi uniform.
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Soon after that, Rabin was killed
by a far-right Israeli extremist,
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and Rabin's widow blamed Netanyahu
for stoking the flames that led to that.
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And in the wake of that assassination,
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Netanyahu's political
career seemed dead
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and it wasn't until a series of bus
bombings by Hamas in Israel,
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as part of their own efforts
to derail the peace accords,
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that Netanyahu was first elected
prime minister.
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And his message of, "I am the only one
who can keep you safe,"
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has been consistent ever since.
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Here he is in the run-up to Israel's
2014 election,
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making that point again.
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I feel the Jewish nation
is under threat,
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and I'm prepared to mitigate
that danger.
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It's what the state of Israel expects
from me, and it's what I'll do.
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Well, that is a big claim that just
hasn't dated very well.
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Honestly, I haven't seen
a politician's words age so poorly
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since Hillary Clinton tweeted,
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"Happy birthday
to this future president."
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So, he has always been hard-right.
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But it's worth taking a minute
to underscore just how extreme
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his current government is.
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Because the truth is, Netanyahu has
been struggling to hold office
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in the last half a decade.
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Voters there actually endured five
elections in just four years
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because neither Netanyahu nor anyone
else could form a stable majority.
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He only made it back into power
last year,
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by forming a coalition with those
on the furthest right wing
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of Israeli politics, leading
to the most right-wing government
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in the country's history.
His cabinet is stocked with extremists.
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Take Itamar Ben-Gvir.
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He's been convicted
on at least eight charges,
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including supporting a terrorist
organization and incitement to racism.
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He was once considered so fringe,
the Israeli Army rejected him
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from mandatory service.
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But he's now Netanyahu's minister
of national security.
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Meanwhile, his current finance minister,
Bezalel Smotrich, has said,
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"Is there a Palestinian history
or culture? There is none.
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There is no such thing
as a Palestinian people."
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He's also advocated
for victory through settlement,
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very basically seizing land
in the West Bank,
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and driving Palestinians from
their homes to the point where,
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quote, "I abort their hopes
of establishing a state."
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Settlements are widely understood
to be against international law,
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yet Smotrich wants a massive
expansion of them,
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and Netanyahu gave him a special
role in charge of settlement affairs.
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But perhaps the most surprising way that
Netanyahu has actually jeopardized
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Israel's safety, is that, for years,
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he deliberately used Hamas as a way
to undermine the Palestinian Authority,
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a rival to Hamas, which
administers parts of the West Bank
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and has much more legitimacy
on the world stage.
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Experts say that the idea was basically
divide and conquer
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if Palestinian leadership remains split,
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and one of the main parties at the table
has a terrorism label on it,
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it's gonna be much easier for Netanyahu
to refuse to engage with them,
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and say that he has no partner
for peace.
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Here is Smotrich explaining
that strategy out loud in 2015.
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The Palestinian Authority is a burden
and Hamas is a terrorist organization
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that no one will recognize,
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and no one will give it status
in the ICC.
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No one will let them lead a decision
in the security council.
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The main pitch we are playing right now
is international delegitimization.
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Hamas, at this point, in my opinion,
will be an asset.
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"Hamas is an asset."
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If you are calling the group that has
repeatedly killed your people
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an "asset," it shows pretty clearly
that what you care about isn't safety,
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but total control. And for years,
Netanyahu's government
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was actually allowing suitcases
of cash to be delivered to Hamas,
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something, by the way, that earned
suitcases of cash the title
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"Most Morally Disreputable
Way to Transfer Money"
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for the 900th year in a row.
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When the scandal broke,
Netanyahu insisted
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that that money
was for "humanitarian aid".
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Which still doesn't explain why it had
to be delivered in luggage
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in the back of a fucking car.
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The point is, Netanyahu took the risk
of betting that he could control Hamas
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and use them to his own ends.
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And he was horribly wrong about that,
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to the point that his ministers are now
getting screamed out of hospitals.
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To recap so far:
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Palestinians and Israelis have both
been relentlessly let down
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by their leaders, and the result
has been a decades-long cycle
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of extremism, violence,
retaliation, and more extremism.
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And Palestinians have been on the
receiving end of that extremism
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twice over
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subject to the inadequacies
and cruelties
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of a Hamas government
and the punishing isolation
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and daily misery of an Israeli one.
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Because Israel's approach to Gaza
has been truly punishing,
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fencing people in, limiting exits,
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and trapping them inside of what has
been called an "open-air prison"
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by many human rights organizations.
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Life under a blockade there
has been hard for a long time,
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even when there aren't bombs flying.
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The United Nations says just ten%
of Gaza's two million people
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have access to safe drinking water.
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{\an8}My children get sick
because of the water.
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{\an8}They suffer from vomiting, diarrhea.
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{\an8}All the streets are full of the trashes,
all of the garbage.
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{\an8}All the people, they have no work.
They have no employment.
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When people here run out of electricity
here, they only get three hours a day.
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They can either buy a small
battery to try to operate lights,
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or they just go outside and light fires.
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This life has given Imad,
like many Gazans,
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a sense of having little to lose.
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Right, and you can't really blame him
for feeling that way.
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Once you've lost clean water, sanitary
space, job prospects,
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and most electricity, there's really
not much left to lose but hope.
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And it's worth noting that there is one
more major player in all of this
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that I haven't mentioned yet,
and it's us.
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And I don't just mean the British,
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who are absolutely responsible
for some of this.
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I'm talking about America.
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Because this country has
emphatically picked a side.
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In recent years, we've given Israel
$3.8 billion a year in military aid.
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And you can make geopolitical
arguments
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for why that is or isn't a valid thing
to do.
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But it means we're heavily implicated
in everything you've just seen.
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Just listen to Bassam Aramin,
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a Palestinian whose ten-year-old
daughter was killed
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by an Israeli border guard in 2007.
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{\an8}My daughter has been killed with
an American rubber bullet,
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{\an8}unfortunately, from an American
M16, unfortunately,
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{\an8}from an American Jeep,
American uniform,
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{\an8}and the soldier had trained in America.
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{\an8}So, everything is American.
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Right. "Everything is American."
And I know that is hard to hear.
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But the fact is, "Made in America"
is something
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that we understandably love to brag
about when it's slapped on things
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that we're proud of, but unfortunately,
it's not just tractors, truck nuts,
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and Toby Keith songs.
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Sometimes it's stuff
that's killing people.
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And so, having explained at least
some of how we got here,
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now might be the time to talk
about where we are.
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As of right now, Hamas is still holding
all but four of the hostages
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that it's taken and firing rockets
towards Israel every day.
455
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,636
And Israel is
bombing relentlessly,
456
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,955
again, thousands in Gaza
have been killed so far,
457
00:23:49,039 --> 00:23:51,515
which honestly, shouldn't be a total
shock given that early on,
458
00:23:51,599 --> 00:23:53,675
an IDF spokesperson said out loud,
459
00:23:53,759 --> 00:23:57,235
"The emphasis is on damage
and not accuracy."
460
00:23:57,319 --> 00:24:00,515
And there have been some maddening
efforts to downplay
461
00:24:00,599 --> 00:24:03,356
the suffering in Gaza, like when
Israel's ambassador to the UN said this
462
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:04,755
last weekend.
463
00:24:04,839 --> 00:24:07,836
{\an8}There is no humanitarian crisis
in Gaza.
464
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,596
{\an8}In coordination with the U.S.
And the UN,
465
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:15,035
{\an8}we allowed the number of trucks
entering Gaza now with food
466
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,156
{\an8}and medicines to reach almost
100 trucks every day.
467
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,599
{\an8}You've said this before, that there
is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza.
468
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,195
{\an8}That's kind of an amazing statement
469
00:24:28,279 --> 00:24:31,920
{\an8}because there were humanitarian
problems there before the war.
470
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,035
{\an8}And now, obviously,
it has gotten bad.
471
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:41,839
{\an8}Take their numbers aside.
It has gotten to the crisis point.
472
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:47,079
{\an8}I'm not saying that the life
in Gaza is great.
473
00:24:48,319 --> 00:24:54,435
Okay. But "I'm not saying it's great"
is a severe understatement there.
474
00:24:54,519 --> 00:24:56,796
That is something you say
when you're describing the band
475
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,640
at a wedding, or a sandwich
from Panera Bread.
476
00:25:00,079 --> 00:25:03,195
But it's not how you describe life
in the middle of a fucking war zone.
477
00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:05,356
Because those on the
ground in Gaza will tell you
478
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,556
it's absolutely a humanitarian crisis.
479
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,640
Just watch this woman who works
with Doctors Without Borders.
480
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,796
{\an8}It is the worst humanitarian
catastrophe I have experienced.
481
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,755
{\an8}There's an acronym
in the Gaza Strip right now.
482
00:25:17,839 --> 00:25:22,356
{\an8}I'm a pediatric intensive care doctor.
I see a lot of suffering in my career.
483
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,116
{\an8}There is an acronym that is unique
to the Gaza Strip,
484
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,435
{\an8}and it's WCNSF.
485
00:25:29,519 --> 00:25:32,319
{\an8}Wounded Child,
No Surviving Family.
486
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,356
{\an8}And it is used not infrequently
in the last three weeks.
487
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:42,000
{\an8}Wounded Child, No Surviving Family
should not exist as an acronym.
488
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,116
She's right. And personally,
I'm gonna take my cues
489
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,035
about what constitutes a humanitarian
crisis from the humanitarians here.
490
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,316
And I really don't have it in me to
show you footage
491
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,556
of people in agony tonight.
492
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,755
But I do want
you to see some kids in Gaza
493
00:25:54,839 --> 00:25:58,089
who've been displaced speak
about what they've been going through.
494
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,955
{\an8}- We can't sleep sometimes.
- Why?
495
00:26:02,039 --> 00:26:08,559
{\an8}Because those things...
Because of fear.
496
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,720
{\an8}We fear for our lives.
497
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,316
{\an8}I would start trembling.
498
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:26,519
{\an8}My hands would tremble
and start to hurt.
499
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,480
{\an8}I hope things calm down.
500
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:37,920
{\an8}A truce, and that no one else
would get hurt.
501
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,599
{\an8}I hope the fighting
stops and we can go home
502
00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:52,119
{\an8}to our houses, and sleep and chill
out. I would really like that.
503
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,000
Yeah, I'd really like them to be able
to chill the fuck out too.
504
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,396
Cause kids should never be losing sleep
due to the fear of war,
505
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,195
they should only be losing sleep
for completely normal kid reasons,
506
00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:07,955
like tummy aches from
eating too much candy
507
00:27:08,039 --> 00:27:11,035
or, apparently, for Australian kids,
staying up excited all night
508
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,356
because it's Christmas Eve
and you can't wait to see
509
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,316
if Santa brought you a brand-new bag
for all of your holiday ham
510
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,640
for some deeply weird reason.
511
00:27:19,799 --> 00:27:23,755
It should be impossible to watch
those kids and not feel shattered.
512
00:27:23,839 --> 00:27:26,439
There is a natural human impulse
to protect children.
513
00:27:26,519 --> 00:27:30,076
To grab a toddler you don't know if
you see them running into traffic.
514
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,356
And if that impulse is broken or
discentivized by a government,
515
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,556
there is absolutely
a humanitarian crisis
516
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,475
no matter what any asshole
has to say about it.
517
00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:42,156
And look, I don't have a solution
for peace in the Middle East.
518
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,396
And even if I did, which again,
I don't,
519
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,400
this really would be the worst voice
in which to relay that message.
520
00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:51,955
But it does seem to me, personally,
that a ceasefire has to be
521
00:27:52,039 --> 00:27:53,515
the first step.
522
00:27:53,599 --> 00:27:56,235
That is something that people have
been calling for all over the world,
523
00:27:56,319 --> 00:27:59,356
but it's something that world
leaders have been reluctant to say.
524
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,200
Just watch Justin Trudeau almost
say it, and then correct himself.
525
00:28:03,759 --> 00:28:06,475
We need to see a cease...
526
00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:10,316
{\an8}We need to see a humanitarian pause
so we can flow...
527
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,640
{\an8}We need to see a ceasing of the levels
of violence that we're seeing.
528
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,475
He stopped himself mid-word there.
529
00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:21,640
He literally ordered a ceasefire
on the word ceasefire.
530
00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:25,396
My only regret is that he didn't just
keep that word salad
531
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,116
or word poutine going,
532
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,950
"We need a ceasing of the violence,
533
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,396
a stopping of the explosions,
sort of a halting of the booms.
534
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,636
A halt-a-boom would be great
right now."
535
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,235
And it's not just Trudeau,
536
00:28:37,319 --> 00:28:40,435
Joe Biden has said there
is no possibility of a ceasefire.
537
00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:43,356
Which is a hell of a thing to hear
from perhaps the only world leader
538
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,995
whose pressure could actually
make one possible.
539
00:28:46,079 --> 00:28:49,475
And listen, there are those,
like noted Mid-East peace expert
540
00:28:49,559 --> 00:28:52,876
Harvey Levin,
who will say, and not wrongly,
541
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,060
that there are real dangers
to a ceasefire,
542
00:28:55,079 --> 00:28:58,356
that Hamas might regroup
once the bombing stops.
543
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,076
Although that's arguably gonna be
a danger whenever it stops.
544
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,000
So why not stop right now?
545
00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:05,995
Continuing down this path
only creates more extremists,
546
00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:08,435
which is the last thing
that anybody needs.
547
00:29:08,519 --> 00:29:11,515
And I don't want to say anything that
denies the pain of those in Israel,
548
00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:14,116
who have lost loved ones
to a truly barbarous act,
549
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,435
or who are waiting anxiously
for the return of hostages.
550
00:29:17,519 --> 00:29:18,769
Although you should know,
551
00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:22,715
some hostages' families are also
utterly furious at the military tactics
552
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:24,916
that Netanyahu's employing right now.
553
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,156
{\an8}We have to engage in negotiations.
We have to do it now.
554
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,275
{\an8}They say that the only solution is
to destroy, to flatten Gaza.
555
00:29:32,359 --> 00:29:35,235
{\an8}They never mention the hostages,
never.
556
00:29:35,319 --> 00:29:38,319
Right. And you can see how
infuriating that would be.
557
00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:41,995
I know that for many Israelis, there
is an understandable sense of fear
558
00:29:42,079 --> 00:29:43,475
and precarity right now,
559
00:29:43,559 --> 00:29:46,995
amid the specter of Hamas attacks
and rockets flying overhead.
560
00:29:47,079 --> 00:29:50,316
But it's worth also acknowledging
the overwhelming sense of precarity
561
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,316
among Palestinians,
living under a blockade,
562
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,556
and a barrage of Israeli rockets.
563
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,275
And it has to be possible to feel
the pain in one community
564
00:29:59,359 --> 00:30:02,396
without denying it in another.
It has to be.
565
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:07,116
That is, perhaps, the most
necessary precondition for peace.
566
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,796
Because real peace here
will clearly be difficult.
567
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,715
It's gonna be struggled toward,
as part of a larger pursuit of justice,
568
00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:17,156
which will in turn require an honest
and uncomfortable reckoning
569
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,876
with all the decisions
that brought us to this point.
570
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,195
And I know that hope is scarce
right now,
571
00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:26,035
but I did see something this week
which gave me a seed of hope.
572
00:30:26,119 --> 00:30:29,396
It involved this Israeli man,
Rami Elhanan,
573
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,955
who lost his 14-year-old daughter
to a Hamas suicide bombing
574
00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:33,356
26 years ago.
575
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,035
He actually co-directs a group
called The Parents Circle,
576
00:30:36,119 --> 00:30:38,796
with that Palestinian man
that I showed you earlier,
577
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,636
where parents who've lost children
to this conflict get together
578
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,475
to work toward peace.
579
00:30:43,559 --> 00:30:46,715
Elhanan was asked if recent events
had changed his worldview at all,
580
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:48,799
and his response is worth listening to.
581
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:54,359
{\an8}You know, we are in a circle
of blood for the last 75 years.
582
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,550
And this is just another round.
583
00:30:57,119 --> 00:31:01,440
{\an8}Nobody expected the viciousness
and the cruelty of this round,
584
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,116
but it was expected.
585
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,195
{\an8}You cannot put two million
people in a box, close the cover,
586
00:31:06,279 --> 00:31:11,200
{\an8}and expect nothing will happen.
It will not stop unless we talk.
587
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,356
{\an8}You cannot annihilate Hamas.
588
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,796
{\an8}You cannot ignore six million people,
Palestinians,
589
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,715
{\an8}living here in the Holy Land.
590
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:25,799
{\an8}And you cannot expect them to go
away. They will not go away.
591
00:31:25,839 --> 00:31:28,955
{\an8}We will not go away. We are doomed
to live here together,
592
00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:31,876
{\an8}and we have to choose whether
to share this land
593
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,720
{\an8}or to share the graveyard under it.
594
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,955
Exactly. And it is inspiring that,
despite what that man went through,
595
00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:42,275
he's still committed to achieving
peace through talking.
596
00:31:42,359 --> 00:31:44,955
And it shows that any conversation
around this has to begin
597
00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:47,356
with empathy or we're just fucked.
598
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,116
And obviously, we don't know
how all this ends.
599
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,356
But there are a few things we do know.
600
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,596
We know that dehumanizing
people leads to violence.
601
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,980
We know that violence leads to
even more brutality and destruction.
602
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,435
We know that, crucially, breaking that
cycle is unfortunately gonna require
603
00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:06,275
leadership significantly different
than the ones currently in place.
604
00:32:06,359 --> 00:32:07,440
And now, this.
605
00:32:08,279 --> 00:32:13,876
And Now: Rachel Campos-Duffy Really,
Really Needs You To Know
606
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,316
That Her Husband Was Once
In Congress.
607
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,396
{\an8}I brought this up to you guys before. I
have a husband who was in Congress.
608
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,156
Will, it's so funny you mention that
609
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,435
because my husband got to do
that when he was in Congress.
610
00:32:24,519 --> 00:32:27,435
{\an8}My husband is a former member
of Congress, as you know.
611
00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:29,916
{\an8}My husband hires young people
all the time,
612
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,650
{\an8}when he was a member of Congress.
613
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,596
{\an8}I've been to so many town halls with
my husband when he was in Congress.
614
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,156
{\an8}- Your brother was in Congress?
- My husband was in Congress.
615
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,076
{\an8}So interesting because if you talk
to people like my husband,
616
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,475
{\an8}who was in Congress.
617
00:32:41,559 --> 00:32:44,755
{\an8}When my husband was in Congress,
we would do dairy breakfasts.
618
00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:47,596
{\an8}Every day, when my husband
was in Congress...
619
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,235
{\an8}My husband,
when he was in Congress...
620
00:32:49,319 --> 00:32:51,356
{\an8}My husband was in Congress.
621
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,116
{\an8}My husband was in Congress
for ten years.
622
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,435
{\an8}You have something in common with my
husband, who's a member of Congress.
623
00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:56,715
{\an8}My husband was elected to Congress.
624
00:32:56,799 --> 00:32:58,675
{\an8}Let me get to another topic
that I find very interesting.
625
00:32:58,759 --> 00:33:01,160
{\an8}As you know, my husband
was a member of Congress.
626
00:33:03,599 --> 00:33:07,995
Moving on. Finally, tonight,
a quick update about New Zealand.
627
00:33:08,079 --> 00:33:09,479
You may remember, last week,
628
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,955
we waded into their highly competitive
Bird of the Century contest
629
00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:16,279
run by the conservation
organization Forest & Bird.
630
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:20,195
Basically, every year New Zealanders
vote for their favorite bird
631
00:33:20,279 --> 00:33:22,396
and ultimately elect a new bird king.
632
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,556
It's just excellent.
633
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,396
And we announced ourselves
as the official campaign managers
634
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,475
of this bird, the Puteketeke.
635
00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:31,755
And I'll never tire of saying
that out loud. Puteketeke.
636
00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:35,156
It's the bird name equivalent
of rubbing your gums with cocaine
637
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,040
or filling your mouth with Pop Rocks
and chugging a Coke.
638
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,836
And look at the plumage involved.
639
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,240
It has the grace of a swan
and the hair of an emo Guy Fieri.
640
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,079
To campaign for it, we put up ads
in New Zealand, Paris, Mumbai,
641
00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:51,156
Tokyo, and London.
642
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,836
We flew a banner
over Ipanema Beach in Brazil,
643
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,316
and, naturally, put up a billboard
in Manitowoc, Wisconsin.
644
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,435
And it seems our
promotion worked
645
00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:02,316
because there was such a huge influx
of votes this week
646
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,076
that, according to Forest & Bird,
647
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,039
their voting verification system got
overloaded and temporarily crashed.
648
00:34:08,559 --> 00:34:11,115
They're actually having to delay
the announcement of the winner
649
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:14,435
until Wednesday. So, while we
don't yet know who won,
650
00:34:14,519 --> 00:34:17,115
I do want to take a moment
to address the response
651
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:20,760
to our campaign in New Zealand.
Because it wasn't all positive.
652
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:25,396
John Oliver, the late-night host,
and former bird himself...
653
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,276
Come on! It's the news!
654
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,555
Has made his pick for Forest & Bird's
Bird of the Century competition
655
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:34,075
known to the world.
656
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:38,676
All of John Oliver's work, including
this "Lord of the Wings" poster
657
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,796
in Wellington,
may not convince Kiwis.
658
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,836
- You wouldn't vote for it, still?
- Not on the basis of that photo.
659
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,475
And he's not the only one.
660
00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:50,196
Kiwi campaigner Erin Reilly
calling it "fowl" play.
661
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,595
{\an8}B-grade American celebrity coming
out and essentially hijacking
662
00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:57,635
Bird of the Century.
I don't even think he likes birds.
663
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,079
Hey, hey, hey!
Okay, now I'm insulted.
664
00:35:02,199 --> 00:35:04,515
Not because of the "B-grade
American celebrity" part,
665
00:35:04,599 --> 00:35:08,155
that's honestly generous. But how
dare you say I don't like birds.
666
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,595
I love them.
I just don't like your bird.
667
00:35:10,679 --> 00:35:13,836
Because it looks like
Donkey Kong's hairy testicle.
668
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,356
It looks like a rat carrying
a toothpick.
669
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,435
But she wasn't the only New Zealander
who got a little testy with us.
670
00:35:19,519 --> 00:35:20,819
There was also this woman.
671
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,676
{\an8}You want to take the piss out
of our very important election,
672
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:28,676
{\an8}then I send 14 emails to everyone
on your team to try
673
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,555
and get you to come and defend
yourself on another bird debate
674
00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:32,639
and you said no.
675
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,676
That's a stool for you, John Oliver,
676
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,115
if you want to put your money where
your mouth is about your bird.
677
00:35:39,199 --> 00:35:41,435
- Empty chair.
- Do you have a bird?
678
00:35:41,519 --> 00:35:43,836
Yeah, Kereru. It's the best bird.
679
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,555
Okay, okay, okay,
let me address that.
680
00:35:46,639 --> 00:35:48,236
Of course, I said no to that debate.
681
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,435
I don't even know how to argue
with someone who is that wrong.
682
00:35:51,519 --> 00:35:53,595
This is the best bird?
683
00:35:53,679 --> 00:35:57,475
Please, it's a fucking pigeon
in a tank top. Debate over.
684
00:35:57,559 --> 00:36:01,280
I'm not getting on a plane
to destroy you like that.
685
00:36:02,679 --> 00:36:05,635
And look, some bird campaigners
did accept our interference
686
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,716
with grace, like supporters
of the Titipounamu,
687
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,276
who posted this image saying
688
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,960
"That's me in the corner,
that's me in the spotlight,
689
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,840
losing a bird competition."
690
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,515
But others came out swinging.
691
00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:21,635
Supporters of the Kakariki Karaka
designed this retaliatory billboard,
692
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,115
saying, "Dear John,
don't disrupt the pecking order,"
693
00:36:25,199 --> 00:36:28,916
and put them up all over the place.
694
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,200
And I really respect
that kind of aggression.
695
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,555
But the Kakariki Karaka has no business
being in this competition.
696
00:36:34,639 --> 00:36:37,236
Bird of the
Century is a contest for real birds,
697
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,440
not bright-green cat toys.
698
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,115
Even this professional basketball
team got involved,
699
00:36:43,199 --> 00:36:46,155
posting this video of a billboard
they put up alongside their mascot
700
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,876
and Bird of the Year pick, the Kea.
701
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,435
And if you missed it there,
that billboard says,
702
00:36:51,519 --> 00:36:54,716
"The only bird worse than
the Puteketeke is Zazu."
703
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,155
And I will admit,
that is pretty good.
704
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,115
But here's the thing,
the joke is on you.
705
00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:02,836
You photoshopped my face
onto cartoon Zazu.
706
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,236
I'm not that one.
I'm not the fun one.
707
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,356
I'm the terrifying one that puts Pride
Rock smack dab in the middle
708
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,396
of the uncanny valley.
709
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,595
Then there was the campaign
for the Southern Dotterel
710
00:37:13,679 --> 00:37:18,276
which posted this photo of it walking
in on me in bed with a Puteketeke.
711
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,236
Again, very good,
712
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,520
and I love all the tiny details,
from the post-bird-sex cigarette
713
00:37:23,639 --> 00:37:26,796
that I'm holding in my hand
to the choice of the dotterel photo.
714
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,676
Because that is exactly the expression
a Dotterel would make
715
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,396
if it walked in on its spouse
cheating on it.
716
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,075
But amid all the blowback, there was
one accusation that I cannot let pass.
717
00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:39,396
And it comes from that campaigner
for the Kiwi that you saw earlier,
718
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,916
who told a news outlet, "He doesn't
even like New Zealand, to be honest.
719
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,995
Any time we feature on his
show it's so he can laugh at us.
720
00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:48,876
We're the butt of his jokes
and he's doing it again."
721
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,276
And look, yeah, I am doing it again.
Yeah, I am.
722
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,716
But it is not because I don't like you.
It's 'cause I fucking love you.
723
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,796
New Zealand, you are so good
at not just talking shit,
724
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,316
but taking it
with remarkable good humor.
725
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,840
I talk about you so much because
you're the most fascinating country.
726
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,559
You hold bird contests, you sometimes
throw dildos at your politicians,
727
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,356
you let your people submit
images like this for your national flag.
728
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,595
You're an endless well of joy.
729
00:38:18,679 --> 00:38:21,876
I'd talk about you every week if it
weren't for all the other crazy shit
730
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,356
going on in the world.
I would rename this show.
731
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,916
I would rename this show
"New Zealand Tonight with John Oliver,"
732
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,716
and it would be an immediate
improvement. And for the record.
733
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,716
All of your birds are great,
734
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,595
and it would be an honor to lose to any
of them when results are announced.
735
00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:40,196
And the reason it is so easy for me
to say that is,
736
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,396
we're not gonna lose, are we?
737
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,115
We're gonna win.
And we're gonna win by a lot.
738
00:38:45,199 --> 00:38:49,115
And when we do that, the Puteketeke
will be your Bird of the Century,
739
00:38:49,199 --> 00:38:52,716
and there is nothing that any of you
can do to stop that right now.
740
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,635
Maybe good luck next century,
New Zealand.
741
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,635
That's our show, thank you so much
for watching,
742
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,000
we'll see you next week, goodnight!
68388
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